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In today’s New York Times:

Gloria Steinem: Women Have ‘Chick Flicks.’ What About Men?
By GLORIA STEINEM MARCH 2, 2017

I was on a flight from New York to Seattle when a long delay on the tarmac prompted the airline to offer us a free movie. As the flight attendant read the choices aloud, a young man across the aisle said, “I don’t watch chick flicks!”

… He would also be rewarded by such irresistible movies as “Hidden Figures,” about three African-American women whose brainpower fueled the American space program, or two such universal stories as the lost boys and found men in “Lion” and “Moonlight.”

These movies meet the “chick flick” entry-level test of being more about people than special effects, more about relationships than chases. And in the Academy Awards season that just closed, all three went a long way toward ending the division of human beings into the powerful but made-up categories of race and gender. …

Yet, for some mysterious reason, the members of the made-up category of “actresses” haven’t been enthusiastic about competing for Oscars against the members of the made-up category of “actors.”

Editors’ Note: March 2, 2017

Because of a misunderstanding by the editors, it was discovered only after publication that this article reproduces in substantial part an essay by the same writer that appeared on the Women’s Media Center website in 2007 and was republished by other outlets. It is not The Times’s policy to print previously published work without attribution. In addition, the article referred incorrectly to the timing of a flight during which “chick flicks” were mentioned. It was not “recently,” the flight having occurred in 2007.

 
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  1. Men have internet Porn and video games.

  2. Really run out of things to say, hasn’t she?

  3. Anonymous [AKA "a very confused Warren beattie"] says:

    Boyhood took twelve years to make and these chick flicks took ten years to be released?

  4. “fake news” / propaganda whatever. Don’t read MSM don’t care.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @newrouter

    Agree, except I know many others do read and care about the MSM, including most of my family and neighbors, so it is useful to know what are the lies de jour.

  5. Gloria Steinem said women flocked to Bernie Sanders rallies so that they can flirt with The Bernie Bros.

  6. Gloria Steinem goes on to suggest that a helpful label for guy flicks would be “prick flicks” and discusses her idea at some length.

    Judging by the comments in the New York Times, this is considered by many to be an intellectual masterstroke by Steinem, rather than the immature descent into obscenity and misandry that it is.

    Freely using obscenities used to be considered bold and revolutionary by Sixties radicals. They were only a few years past adolescence then. But they are old people now and no wiser. Amazing.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @PiltdownMan

    People tend to get stuck in their mental model of the world as it was when they were 30 or so. It's a common human failing.

    Replies: @TheJester

  7. @PiltdownMan
    Gloria Steinem goes on to suggest that a helpful label for guy flicks would be "prick flicks" and discusses her idea at some length.

    Judging by the comments in the New York Times, this is considered by many to be an intellectual masterstroke by Steinem, rather than the immature descent into obscenity and misandry that it is.

    Freely using obscenities used to be considered bold and revolutionary by Sixties radicals. They were only a few years past adolescence then. But they are old people now and no wiser. Amazing.

    Replies: @SFG

    People tend to get stuck in their mental model of the world as it was when they were 30 or so. It’s a common human failing.

    • Replies: @TheJester
    @SFG

    That's a problem when a generation behaves as if it's 30-going-on-13.

    Perpetual adolescence is hip. It's the wave of the future where we get to be emotional, impulsive, entitled, throw tantrums when we don't get our way ... and are otherwise given free rein to be narcissistic and self-indulgent without regard for consequences.

    If consequences bite, we can always retreat to our safe spaces where we wile away the time coloring with crayons ... and we don't even have to stay within the lines.

  8. ending the division of human beings into the powerful but made-up categories of race and gender.

    I cannot think of a more fitting epitaph for the “progressive” movement than that they tried to end these “made-up” categories.

    Nature bats last, morons, and mommy nature swings a big bat.

    • Agree: Laugh Track
    • Replies: @Bernardista
    @another fred

    She had no problem with reverting to 'powerful but made-up categories' when she said we went to the Bernie rallies to flirt with the Bernie Bros.

  9. Academy Awards divide movie people in categories of ‘best’, ‘nominated’, and ‘not even nominated’. That is so divisive and anti-inclusive.
    Oscars must be handed out to EVERYONE in movie business in every year.

    The very idea of ‘award’ is ‘exclusive’ and ‘hierarchical’.

    • Agree: San Fernando Curt
    • Replies: @San Fernando Curt
    @Anon

    Just make it the "I got a line or two" award. Only reason anyone tunes in is to see what all the nonexistent women are wearing.

  10. Because of a misunderstanding by the editors, it was discovered only after publication that this article reproduces in substantial part an essay by the same writer that appeared on the Women’s Media Center website in 2007 and was republished by other outlets. It is not The Times’s policy to print previously published work without attribution.

    One does wonder just how the re-purposed 10-year old essay ended up as a NYT op-ed. Was Gloria solicited for a an op-ed and pulled this old workhorse out of her files? Hmmm…

  11. Ah, “Hidden Figures”: the movie that proves conclusively that white men were a redundant component of the whole 1960s space race thing. It’s a shame that Tom Wolfe wasted our time with his racist propaganda about the “heroism” of white astronauts, isn’t it?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Richard of Melbourne

    You mean that there were white men in the space program? Are you sure? I was under the impression that the whole thing was done by brilliant black female mathematicians. I mean, maybe they put a few white guys like John Glenn out front because of racism, but black women were the real brains behind the operation.

    Replies: @Anon7

  12. Gloria Steinem = CIA

    Eliminating traditional sex roles is Social Deconstruction 101.

    • Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian
    @Anonymous


    Gloria Steinem = CIA
     
    Really? Got a link?

    I've seen stuff about Betty Friedan and the CIA, but I never heard anything about Steinem to indicate that she was anything but the bog standard Jew who hates everything about white Gentile society and wants to destroy it.
  13. 2007? 2017? What difference does it make at this point?

    I’m trying to remember when I first heard the term “chick flick”, I imagine some time in the early ’90s, so it’s already a quarter of a century old. Almost inevitably there’s nothing new left to say on the subject, so why not recycle old writings?

    Besides, the typical NYT op-ed recycles the wisdom of 1977 so Miss Gloria is in good company.

  14. @Anonymous
    Gloria Steinem = CIA

    Eliminating traditional sex roles is Social Deconstruction 101.

    Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian

    Gloria Steinem = CIA

    Really? Got a link?

    I’ve seen stuff about Betty Friedan and the CIA, but I never heard anything about Steinem to indicate that she was anything but the bog standard Jew who hates everything about white Gentile society and wants to destroy it.

  15. I think there’s an in-group contest among big media thinkpots to see who can burble in public, preferably in print, the stupidest, most incoherent. and irrelevant gibberish. Otherwise why would they render themselves hapless airheads to all who must live and toil in the real world? They can’t really believe they’re striking fatal blows to the evil goy culture they so despise. They can’t be THAT stupid. For one thing they all say the same crap over and over and over. How revolutionary can it be? We couldn’t imagine taking such bullshit seriously

    Yeah. Brilliant insights, Gloria. And my ass is the queen of Norway.

  16. @Richard of Melbourne
    Ah, “Hidden Figures": the movie that proves conclusively that white men were a redundant component of the whole 1960s space race thing. It's a shame that Tom Wolfe wasted our time with his racist propaganda about the "heroism" of white astronauts, isn't it?

    Replies: @Jack D

    You mean that there were white men in the space program? Are you sure? I was under the impression that the whole thing was done by brilliant black female mathematicians. I mean, maybe they put a few white guys like John Glenn out front because of racism, but black women were the real brains behind the operation.

    • Replies: @Anon7
    @Jack D

    That's right; my wife pestered me to take her to that movie after seeing the Golden Globes and so now I know that black women are this hidden resource of genius. Shouldn't the "Hidden Figures" story be more widely told? (Somehow, I think this movie will be shown in "science" class in every school in America.)

    That's exactly what my wife said to me while watching the credits. Shamefully, I told her that there was only Hollywood truth in that movie, as opposed to actual truth. What made me say it? Racism, I guess.

  17. Well… to have written a new essay in 2017, Ms, Steinem would actually still have to be alive in 2017!

    We did see her obit a while back, didn’t we?

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  18. Maz says:

    “Hidden Figures,” about three African-American women whose brainpower fueled the American space program

    I haven’t watched the movie, but judging by the descriptions it’s the worst sort of propaganda. The black women in question were “human computers”, that is, people who did calculations that nowadays would be done by computers. This job, usually done by women, was common in the era before computers or even pocket calculators. If you read old statistics texts from 100 years ago, for example, you’ll often see references to “computers” doing this or that calculation–which means human workers. For example, Francis Galton, in one of his papers on regression toward the mean, wrote:

    The final result is not of a kind to be affected by these minute details, for it happened that, owing to a mistaken direction, the computer to whom I first entrusted the figures used a somewhat different factor, yet the result came out closely the same.

    (emphasis added)

    Using the logic behind the Hidden Figures movie, the real genius here was not Galton, who discovered the deeply unintuitive and crucially important regression phenomenon, but rather the unnamed man or woman who did calculations under Galton’s direction. In reality, of course, human computers were doing boring, mechanical work under strict instructions from superiors. Creativity was a vice in that job. Thankfully no one has to do that kind of work these days.

  19. Ms. Gloria Steinem doesn’t think women are real?! What the heck was this lady complaining about for all these years? Apparently, it was all just to become Anderson Cooper’s wicked stepmother.

  20. @Jack D
    @Richard of Melbourne

    You mean that there were white men in the space program? Are you sure? I was under the impression that the whole thing was done by brilliant black female mathematicians. I mean, maybe they put a few white guys like John Glenn out front because of racism, but black women were the real brains behind the operation.

    Replies: @Anon7

    That’s right; my wife pestered me to take her to that movie after seeing the Golden Globes and so now I know that black women are this hidden resource of genius. Shouldn’t the “Hidden Figures” story be more widely told? (Somehow, I think this movie will be shown in “science” class in every school in America.)

    That’s exactly what my wife said to me while watching the credits. Shamefully, I told her that there was only Hollywood truth in that movie, as opposed to actual truth. What made me say it? Racism, I guess.

  21. Gloria’s old as hell. Even if a guy across the aisle said that(doubtful) there’s no chance she heard it. To quote Christmas Vacation -“You couldn’t hear a dump truck driving through a nitroglycerin plant.”

  22. @SFG
    @PiltdownMan

    People tend to get stuck in their mental model of the world as it was when they were 30 or so. It's a common human failing.

    Replies: @TheJester

    That’s a problem when a generation behaves as if it’s 30-going-on-13.

    Perpetual adolescence is hip. It’s the wave of the future where we get to be emotional, impulsive, entitled, throw tantrums when we don’t get our way … and are otherwise given free rein to be narcissistic and self-indulgent without regard for consequences.

    If consequences bite, we can always retreat to our safe spaces where we wile away the time coloring with crayons … and we don’t even have to stay within the lines.

  23. @newrouter
    "fake news" / propaganda whatever. Don't read MSM don't care.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Agree, except I know many others do read and care about the MSM, including most of my family and neighbors, so it is useful to know what are the lies de jour.

  24. @Anon
    Academy Awards divide movie people in categories of 'best', 'nominated', and 'not even nominated'. That is so divisive and anti-inclusive.
    Oscars must be handed out to EVERYONE in movie business in every year.

    The very idea of 'award' is 'exclusive' and 'hierarchical'.

    Replies: @San Fernando Curt

    Just make it the “I got a line or two” award. Only reason anyone tunes in is to see what all the nonexistent women are wearing.

  25. “Because of a misunderstanding by the editors, it was discovered only after publication that this article reproduces in substantial part an essay…”

    I thought something was amiss when she said that the stewardess [does that need a trigger warning?] asked what movie everyone wanted to see. Most planes these days have individual seat-back screens rather than the old projection screens at the front of the compartment, or everyone has their own laptop/iPad/whatever so either way passengers don’t care about the other screens.

    My first reaction was that she was embellishing a story someone else told her that she wanted to use rather than that it was recycled from a decade ago. Anyway, the point is I don’t fly often yet my slight familiarity with current airlines immediately made me suspicious of the anecdote. Isn’t the whole point of having editors so that they can have those reactions and then do something about it to keep their publication credible? I guess not if you’re the NYT, your contributor is Ms. [is that triggering now too?] Steinem and your theme is The Narrative™.

  26. ending the division of human beings into the powerful but made-up categories of race and gender. …

    I’m in, if we get to nominate Made-Up Categories of Race and Gender to end.

    How about “racist” and “sexist”? Those two made-up categories have been dividing human beings for half a century now.

    And for whose benefit, Ms. Ex-Playboy-Bunny?

  27. I’m surprised the SJW’s haven’t demanded a transgendered/non-gendered/androgynous acting award. As I’m offended that were still using actress (female) and actor (male) awards. Male/female is just a construct. Oh yea, we must have two winners in the transgendered/non-gendered/androgynous category too, plus two best supporting transgendered/non-gendered/androgynous .

    • Replies: @Olorin
    @George Taylor

    And what about "Oscar" himself?

    Damn! So male! Pecs instead of boobs!

    What's worse, he's described as an "Art Deco knight holding a crusader's sword." That's a hate crime right there.

    Anybody tell the Muslim guy who just won the prized/acclaimed statuette that (((the Academy))) handed him a Christian crusader made of brittanium...which is mostly tin...plated with gelt?

    Replies: @Ivy

  28. @George Taylor
    I'm surprised the SJW's haven't demanded a transgendered/non-gendered/androgynous acting award. As I'm offended that were still using actress (female) and actor (male) awards. Male/female is just a construct. Oh yea, we must have two winners in the transgendered/non-gendered/androgynous category too, plus two best supporting transgendered/non-gendered/androgynous .

    Replies: @Olorin

    And what about “Oscar” himself?

    Damn! So male! Pecs instead of boobs!

    What’s worse, he’s described as an “Art Deco knight holding a crusader’s sword.” That’s a hate crime right there.

    Anybody tell the Muslim guy who just won the prized/acclaimed statuette that (((the Academy))) handed him a Christian crusader made of brittanium…which is mostly tin…plated with gelt?

    • Replies: @Ivy
    @Olorin

    Gelt by association.

  29. @another fred

    ending the division of human beings into the powerful but made-up categories of race and gender.
     
    I cannot think of a more fitting epitaph for the "progressive" movement than that they tried to end these "made-up" categories.

    Nature bats last, morons, and mommy nature swings a big bat.

    Replies: @Bernardista

    She had no problem with reverting to ‘powerful but made-up categories’ when she said we went to the Bernie rallies to flirt with the Bernie Bros.

  30. @Olorin
    @George Taylor

    And what about "Oscar" himself?

    Damn! So male! Pecs instead of boobs!

    What's worse, he's described as an "Art Deco knight holding a crusader's sword." That's a hate crime right there.

    Anybody tell the Muslim guy who just won the prized/acclaimed statuette that (((the Academy))) handed him a Christian crusader made of brittanium...which is mostly tin...plated with gelt?

    Replies: @Ivy

    Gelt by association.

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