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From NBC15.com:

Kenosha police find helmets, gas masks, more in out-of-state vehicles; arrest 9

By Nick Viviani
Published: Aug. 27, 2020 at 3:56 PM PDT|Updated: 1 hours ago

MADISON, Wis. (WMTV) – An alert citizen tipping the Kenosha Police Department to three suspicious vehicles with out-of-state plates Wednesday night led to the arrest of nine people authorities suspect were plotting some sort of criminal activity related to recent violent protests.

However, a group out of Seattle that was founded to provide free food to protesters and activists, RiotKitchen206, claims it was their members who were arrested and that they were in Kenosha only to serve meals to people at the demonstrations.

Please note that members of RiotKitchen206 only engage in Peaceful Protests, not riots, as you can tell from their name.

According to a statement posted on KPD’s Facebook page, the tipster told them the vehicles were in a remote lot near State Highway 50 and Green Bay Road. Officers soon found the vehicles – a black school bus, a bread truck, and a tan minivan – and, with the help of U.S. Marshals, staked out the position.

When the vehicles headed to a gas station on Washington Road and 30th Ave., law enforcement was close behind, the statement continued. The officers reported seeing people from the black bus try to fill multiple fuel cans. Seeing that and suspecting they were planning something illegal, the officers approached the vehicles and identified themselves. KPD reported that the suspects in the bus and bread truck all surrendered, while those in the minivan tried driving off.

According to KPD, officers were able to stop the minivan and force their way into it, arresting everyone in the vehicle. With all of the suspects in custody, officers searched the vehicles and discovered helmets, gas masks, protective vests, illegal fireworks, and suspected controlled substances, the statement noted.

All nine of them were booked for disorderly conduct, although the Kenosha Co. District Attorney will make the call on any final charges.

So is this a giant Soros-funded conspiracy? Or is it a bunch of Recreational Rioters who drive cross-country to get in on the latest riots?

My impressions are that white Antifa rioters seem disproportionately to be:

– pedophile
– transgender
– drug addict
– general criminal
– punk rocker
– enjoy vandalism and violence
– working or lower middle class by background
– physically unattractive
– firebugs: people who enjoy starting pretty, pretty fires

 
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  1. Anon[232] • Disclaimer says:

    Check their bank accounts and search their residences. If they are being compensated, evidence should be there. New cars? Paid in drugs? Paid in sex somehow?

    One thing I do know is that it is not for the love of black criminals who have ben shot while resisting arrest. That aint it. Promise.

    Red state law enforcement will engage and detain. I expect the town burners in only blue states.

    Guys and Gals,

    Kamala Harris is a hate-filled nut. Lets keep her away from Pennsylvania Avenue even if Trump has dissapointed.

    • Agree: fish, Kolya Krassotkin
  2. RiotKitchen206 claims its members “were in Kenosha only to serve meals to people at the demonstrations.”

    Of course. Every luncheonette worth its salt stocks plenty of “helmets, gas masks, protective vests, [and] illegal fireworks…”

    What, you never heard of Alice’s Restaurant?

    • Replies: @guest
    @Gary in Gramercy

    Walk right in, sight right down. Baby, burn some white folk alive.

    , @WGary
    @Gary in Gramercy

    An army travels on its stomach.

  3. OT here’s the criminal complaint in the Kenosha shooting to my reading it describes self-defense then charges him with murder 1

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m9sDjYr1Nj_fpFr9bTycWPG8tS2aPDeL/view

    • Thanks: jon, Kronos
    • Replies: @Lot
    @t

    No offense Mr. T, but Google Drive links are a privacy nightmare. Better: imgur, pastebin, archive.org, archive.is.

    Same problem for any sort of facebook link.

    , @guest
    @t

    Well, yeah. The D.A. asked “Whose side are you on?” and he did not respond “Satan” or even “the black people side.”

    Replies: @anonymous, @anonymous

    , @jon
    @t

    The murder 1 charges seem crazy:
    The first guy approached him, chased him, threw something at him, and then grabbed for his gun.
    The second guy hit him with a skateboard and grabbed his gun.
    The third guy pointed a gun at him.
    This is all straight from the complaint.
    There are two reckless endangerment charges, however, for which he might go down. Those carry up to 12 yrs each, plus 5 more each because of the gun.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @V. Hickel

  4. Antifa rioters are also disproportionately jewish

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Pop Warner

    Do you have a source for this? BLM has Jews in important, high level positions, but obviously its footsoldiers are black. Antifa has a historical Jewish origin and leadership, but it also goes back nearly a hundred years. Minnesota and Wisconsin are full of goyim with "Jewish-sounding" names. And as far as Jews being the footsoldiers and not leadership, there's the question of numbers.
    What's interesting (and checkable, by photo and video) is the high number of black representation in very much not black places like Seattle or Kenosha. That suggests a highly disproportionate element.

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Kent Nationalist

    , @Known Fact
    @Pop Warner

    Maybe a few loser guys. But most Jewish women would be too busy writing pro-Palestinian op-eds or having their toenails done

  5. With wedding receptions banned due to COVID, caterers naturally are seeking out lucrative new markets. And imagine how much worse things would be if these peaceful protesters were walking around hangry.

    As for the helmets, gas masks and protective vests, these would have come in handy the day my wife’s pressure cooker went blooey

  6. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:

    My impressions are that white Antifa rioters seem disproportionately to be:

    – pedophile
    – transgender
    – drug addict
    – general criminal
    – punk rocker
    – enjoy vandalism and violence

    When I find someone who really hates cops, it never surprises me to find out that he’s a criminal. I mean, obviously, if you devote that much energy to hating the police, there’s probably a pretty obvious reason for it. But when The Kenosha Kid finally did what he did, I was still taken aback by how he shot three people, and got one child molester and two violent criminals. I mean, I assumed there were at least a few of these people who were just people with misguided, but genuine convictions. But a 100% scumbag rate says something about these people. I just hope other people notice it too.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @anon

    Were they the front line cannon fodder or rear guard?

    , @Bill Jones
    @anon

    Mr Epigone might be sufficiently Audacious to calculate the odds of such a trifecta.
    I guess we'd need an approximate number of total peaceful rioters.

  7. Someone said that street disturbances in the Middle East will naturally disperse, except when street food is available. I can’t verify or source that but it makes intuitive sense. How is this company allowed to exist, except through the interference of our renegade law talker caste? Can I publicly offer rope to rapists, storage lockers to burglars, or gasoline to arsonists?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @J.Ross

    Ben & Jerry's brought in a truck to serve free ice cream to the occupiers at CHAZ. I know Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield are left-wing, but that's really rubbing our noses in it.

    Replies: @Jack D

  8. Anonymous[141] • Disclaimer says:

    – physically unattractive

    I think this is generally true, and exacerbated by them deliberately cultivating an unattractive look in dress, demeanor, health, etc.

    But in the case of the Kenosha shooting, the 2 victims seemed to be Wisconsin Germanic types who were better looking than the shooter, who despite his name has been reported by some as being Hispanic and has a very broad nose and is generally less attractive.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Anonymous


    the 2 victims [sic] seemed to be Wisconsin Germanic types who were better looking than the shooter
     
    Physical appearance assessment:

    Guy on the left was a 5’3” manlet who never learned, guy on the right (in other pics) was a gangly cross between a billy goat and middle-age John Kerry.

    In comparison to the shooter it’s a draw, unlike the shootings.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Jiminy

    , @jon
    @Anonymous


    who despite his name has been reported by some as being Hispanic

     

    When he first got doxxed, someone pulled this off his social media:
    https://twitter.com/Existing2Resist/status/1298580307579269120/photo/1
    , @Thoughts
    @Anonymous

    Rosenbaum was 5'3---a 5'3 male.....that's bad...that's really really bad...in real life he was basically a dwarf

    The other two were very unattractive

    , @gent
    @Anonymous

    Actually, all three of the antifa shot were of jewish heritage.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @JimB
    @Anonymous

    Rittenhouse is an old American name. There was an 18th century American astronomer named David Rittenhouse, who is credited with proposing the white stars on blue background part of the US flag. Kyle Rittenhouse looks very American, actually. But you’d only know that if you grew up in a New England yankee enclave.

  9. @Pop Warner
    Antifa rioters are also disproportionately jewish

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Known Fact

    Do you have a source for this? BLM has Jews in important, high level positions, but obviously its footsoldiers are black. Antifa has a historical Jewish origin and leadership, but it also goes back nearly a hundred years. Minnesota and Wisconsin are full of goyim with “Jewish-sounding” names. And as far as Jews being the footsoldiers and not leadership, there’s the question of numbers.
    What’s interesting (and checkable, by photo and video) is the high number of black representation in very much not black places like Seattle or Kenosha. That suggests a highly disproportionate element.

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
    @J.Ross



    Do you have a source for this? BLM has Jews in important, high level positions, but obviously its footsoldiers are black.

     

    LOL.

    Names of the people killed in Kenosha by Rittenhouse:

    Joseph Rosenbaum

    Anthony Huber

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Crank

    , @Anonymous
    @J.Ross


    Minnesota and Wisconsin are full of goyim with “Jewish-sounding” names.
     
    The 3 guys shot in Wisconsin were named Joseph Rosenbaum, Anthony Huber, and Gaige Grosskreutz. If it were NYC or some other place in the Northeast, guys with names like that would likely be Jewish. But in a Midwestern setting like Wisconsin, they're likely to be of German gentile background.

    Rosenbaum is actually from Texas and moved to Wisconsin recently, but Texas also has a lot of German and Czech gentile immigrant descendants with German "Jewish sounding names".

    "Rosenbaum, killed amid Kenosha unrest, doesn’t come from practicing Jewish family"

    https://www.jewishchronicle.org/2020/08/27/rosenbaum-killed-amid-kenosha-unrest-doesnt-come-from-practicing-jewish-family/

    Joseph Rosenbaum doesn’t come from a practicing Jewish family, but that hasn’t stopped some hate-filled internet trolling from appearing online because of his last name.

    Rosenbaum, 36, of Kenosha, was one of two people shot and killed on Tuesday during unrest after the shooting of Jacob Blake. Suspect Kyle Rittenhouse, an Illinois 17-year–old, has been placed under arrest.

    Rosenbaum’s extended family is not Jewish, though there may be a mix of German and Jewish heritage in the past, said Sammy Rosenbaum, a cousin.

    She said she’d lost touch with her cousin but added that “it’s sad all around that he’s gone ….”

    The apparent lack of Jewish practice in the family hasn’t prevented hateful message boards from lighting up with some antisemitic statements about Joseph Rosenbaum. There are also parentheses around “Rosenbaum” in several instances, signifying a Jew.

    Yet some in the family have Christian–themed content posted to public Internet spaces.
     

    Replies: @jsm

    , @Anonymous
    @J.Ross


    Minnesota and Wisconsin are full of goyim with “Jewish-sounding” names.
     
    The 3 guys shot in Wisconsin were named Joseph Rosenbaum, Anthony Huber, and Gaige Grosskreutz. If it were NYC or some other place in the Northeast, guys with names like that would likely be Jewish. But in a Midwestern setting like Wisconsin, they're likely to be of German gentile background.

    Rosenbaum is actually from Texas and moved to Wisconsin recently, but Texas also has a lot of German and Czech gentile immigrant descendants with German "Jewish sounding names".

    "Rosenbaum, killed amid Kenosha unrest, doesn’t come from practicing Jewish family"

    https://www.jewishchronicle.org/2020/08/27/rosenbaum-killed-amid-kenosha-unrest-doesnt-come-from-practicing-jewish-family/

    Joseph Rosenbaum doesn’t come from a practicing Jewish family, but that hasn’t stopped some hate-filled internet trolling from appearing online because of his last name.

    Rosenbaum, 36, of Kenosha, was one of two people shot and killed on Tuesday during unrest after the shooting of Jacob Blake. Suspect Kyle Rittenhouse, an Illinois 17-year–old, has been placed under arrest.

    Rosenbaum’s extended family is not Jewish, though there may be a mix of German and Jewish heritage in the past, said Sammy Rosenbaum, a cousin.

    She said she’d lost touch with her cousin but added that “it’s sad all around that he’s gone ….”

    The apparent lack of Jewish practice in the family hasn’t prevented hateful message boards from lighting up with some antisemitic statements about Joseph Rosenbaum. There are also parentheses around “Rosenbaum” in several instances, signifying a Jew.

    Yet some in the family have Christian–themed content posted to public Internet spaces.
     

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Mr McKenna, @IHTG, @Hippopotamusdrome

    , @Kent Nationalist
    @J.Ross

    Three antifa were shot and one turned out to be a Jewish paedophile, what are the odds?

  10. I vote for giant conspiracy, maybe funded by Soros, maybe just your tax dollars at work through the FBI or other deep state elements. The massive presence of criminals in these “peaceful demonstrations” is IMHO most easily explained by the fact that LE, especially on the federal level, knows who these people are and how to manipulate them. I imagine the same thing applies to some of the oppositional right-wing elements. This is the Operation Gladio/Strategy of Tension playbook being used in the US rather than abroad.

    • Agree: Cortes
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Kirt


    I vote for giant conspiracy, maybe funded by Soros...This is the Operation Gladio/Strategy of Tension playbook being used in the US rather than abroad.
     
    Operation Gladio was the US and NATO intelligence services using far-right operatives to commit false flag terror bombings and murders that were pinned on leftists and communists for the purpose of hurting the Left in elections and giving the state an excuse to crackdown on the Left.

    So your analogy doesn't make sense. It would be like Operation Gladio if it weren't Soros but rather US intelligence in cahoots with right wingers trying to help Trump win in November.
  11. Didn’t they used to call them goons?

  12. @Pop Warner
    Antifa rioters are also disproportionately jewish

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Known Fact

    Maybe a few loser guys. But most Jewish women would be too busy writing pro-Palestinian op-eds or having their toenails done

  13. @J.Ross
    @Pop Warner

    Do you have a source for this? BLM has Jews in important, high level positions, but obviously its footsoldiers are black. Antifa has a historical Jewish origin and leadership, but it also goes back nearly a hundred years. Minnesota and Wisconsin are full of goyim with "Jewish-sounding" names. And as far as Jews being the footsoldiers and not leadership, there's the question of numbers.
    What's interesting (and checkable, by photo and video) is the high number of black representation in very much not black places like Seattle or Kenosha. That suggests a highly disproportionate element.

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Kent Nationalist

    Do you have a source for this? BLM has Jews in important, high level positions, but obviously its footsoldiers are black.

    LOL.

    Names of the people killed in Kenosha by Rittenhouse:

    Joseph Rosenbaum

    Anthony Huber

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Hippopotamusdrome


    Names of the people killed in Kenosha by Rittenhouse:

    Joseph Rosenbaum

    Anthony Huber
     
    Herbert and J Edgar Hoover were scions of Huber immigrants. One was Quaker, one a fag, but neither was Jewish. Clean the guy up, with a haircut and a shave, and he would fit on an NSDAP poster.




    https://national-justice.com/sites/default/files/styles/w726xauto/public/2020/08/27/huber1.png

    https://imgc.allpostersimages.com/img/print/u-g-PG9Z8T0.jpg?w=550&h=550&p=0

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Rob McX

    , @Crank
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Huber doesn't look jewish, and the name doesn't sound it. But the (now) one-armed wonder smurf that survived Kyle's righteous retribution has a jewish sounding name.

  14. Anonymous[285] • Disclaimer says:

    Once I found out who the kid shot, a eubonics-spewing convicted midget pedophile, an effeminate communist, and an overage skateboard douche who actually believed a skateboard trumps a semi-automatic weapon, I thought, “this kid is cleaning up the streets!”

    I think he was charged with murder because it shuts up the BLM mental cases. The DA know there’s no way they can secure a murder one conviction when he’s shooting at people trying to jump him. That’s not how 1st degree murder convictions work, at all. If they were serious about getting him some jail time, they’d be making manslaughter charges. They’re a hell of a lot easier to muscle through, under the circumstances.

    The kid will walk, with probation.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Anonymous

    He'll get nailed for being a minor with a gun, which is the real charge. His punishment for that will be light, though.

    I'm still impressed by his cool-headedness under attack by three morons. He waited until they got their licks in, and even though he was on his back, he finished them all off with great economy of fire and good aim, one two three, and then he went calmly walked down towards the cops with his hands up. If the stupid Antifa crowd hadn't messed with him, he could have gotten a career in policing. Most people would lose their head in those circumstances.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Nicholas Stix, @guest

    , @Kronos
    @Anonymous


    I think he was charged with murder because it shuts up the BLM mental cases. The DA know there’s no way they can secure a murder one conviction when he’s shooting at people trying to jump him.
     
    Any idea if the DA is Soros backed?
    , @El Dato
    @Anonymous

    The "pedophile" rap is a bit dubious. Looks like he was 18 at the time, so he might just have been having fun with his 17 yo girlfriend and the parents didn't approve.

    Replies: @Unhinged Screed, @S. Anonyia

  15. Anon[402] • Disclaimer says:

    “General criminal” probably has it best.

    Lots of freaks coming out of the woodwork these days – Trump has always had a talent to bring all boils to a head – but here is a shot at the taxonomy.

    1. Prole whites like those guys just killed by the 17-year old. General failures at social living but able to out-black most of the fresh-faced ghetto posers. Happy to take home a TV tonight or just bust someone’s face in.

    2. College dropout whites. Suffer from a general lack of direction in life but still want to accomplish “great things” because they are super special and society just hasn’t noticed yet. But they’ll prove everybody wrong. Value-add is an ability to think somewhat logistically and also a desire to con the system to a somewhat more sophisticate degree (ex: instead of just being a generic pothead, sought out a “medicinal marijuana” prescription because that sounds more respectable).

    3. Angry black intellectuals. Well…they aren’t actually talking to any of those people in the streets, but sort of like Homer Simpson, they are sending out thought waves/prayers to turn that drunken mob into a force for good. Also…buy my book!

    4. That one mom who really believes in the movement and left her kids home alone at 11PM on a school night to protest and maybe meet Mr. Right Part II.

    5. General hood rat masses.

    6. Intensely peaceful protesters (below):

  16. Anonymous[221] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    @Pop Warner

    Do you have a source for this? BLM has Jews in important, high level positions, but obviously its footsoldiers are black. Antifa has a historical Jewish origin and leadership, but it also goes back nearly a hundred years. Minnesota and Wisconsin are full of goyim with "Jewish-sounding" names. And as far as Jews being the footsoldiers and not leadership, there's the question of numbers.
    What's interesting (and checkable, by photo and video) is the high number of black representation in very much not black places like Seattle or Kenosha. That suggests a highly disproportionate element.

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Kent Nationalist

    Minnesota and Wisconsin are full of goyim with “Jewish-sounding” names.

    The 3 guys shot in Wisconsin were named Joseph Rosenbaum, Anthony Huber, and Gaige Grosskreutz. If it were NYC or some other place in the Northeast, guys with names like that would likely be Jewish. But in a Midwestern setting like Wisconsin, they’re likely to be of German gentile background.

    Rosenbaum is actually from Texas and moved to Wisconsin recently, but Texas also has a lot of German and Czech gentile immigrant descendants with German “Jewish sounding names”.

    “Rosenbaum, killed amid Kenosha unrest, doesn’t come from practicing Jewish family”

    https://www.jewishchronicle.org/2020/08/27/rosenbaum-killed-amid-kenosha-unrest-doesnt-come-from-practicing-jewish-family/

    Joseph Rosenbaum doesn’t come from a practicing Jewish family, but that hasn’t stopped some hate-filled internet trolling from appearing online because of his last name.

    Rosenbaum, 36, of Kenosha, was one of two people shot and killed on Tuesday during unrest after the shooting of Jacob Blake. Suspect Kyle Rittenhouse, an Illinois 17-year–old, has been placed under arrest.

    Rosenbaum’s extended family is not Jewish, though there may be a mix of German and Jewish heritage in the past, said Sammy Rosenbaum, a cousin.

    She said she’d lost touch with her cousin but added that “it’s sad all around that he’s gone ….”

    The apparent lack of Jewish practice in the family hasn’t prevented hateful message boards from lighting up with some antisemitic statements about Joseph Rosenbaum. There are also parentheses around “Rosenbaum” in several instances, signifying a Jew.

    Yet some in the family have Christian–themed content posted to public Internet spaces.

    • Replies: @jsm
    @Anonymous

    Note the careful insertion of the little footnote of "practicing" -- meaning it's almost certain this guy is of Jewish descent but doesn't go to synagogue... I.e., your standard-issue atheist Jewish leftist White-America-hater.

  17. Anonymous[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    @Pop Warner

    Do you have a source for this? BLM has Jews in important, high level positions, but obviously its footsoldiers are black. Antifa has a historical Jewish origin and leadership, but it also goes back nearly a hundred years. Minnesota and Wisconsin are full of goyim with "Jewish-sounding" names. And as far as Jews being the footsoldiers and not leadership, there's the question of numbers.
    What's interesting (and checkable, by photo and video) is the high number of black representation in very much not black places like Seattle or Kenosha. That suggests a highly disproportionate element.

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Kent Nationalist

    Minnesota and Wisconsin are full of goyim with “Jewish-sounding” names.

    The 3 guys shot in Wisconsin were named Joseph Rosenbaum, Anthony Huber, and Gaige Grosskreutz. If it were NYC or some other place in the Northeast, guys with names like that would likely be Jewish. But in a Midwestern setting like Wisconsin, they’re likely to be of German gentile background.

    Rosenbaum is actually from Texas and moved to Wisconsin recently, but Texas also has a lot of German and Czech gentile immigrant descendants with German “Jewish sounding names”.

    “Rosenbaum, killed amid Kenosha unrest, doesn’t come from practicing Jewish family”

    https://www.jewishchronicle.org/2020/08/27/rosenbaum-killed-amid-kenosha-unrest-doesnt-come-from-practicing-jewish-family/

    Joseph Rosenbaum doesn’t come from a practicing Jewish family, but that hasn’t stopped some hate-filled internet trolling from appearing online because of his last name.

    Rosenbaum, 36, of Kenosha, was one of two people shot and killed on Tuesday during unrest after the shooting of Jacob Blake. Suspect Kyle Rittenhouse, an Illinois 17-year–old, has been placed under arrest.

    Rosenbaum’s extended family is not Jewish, though there may be a mix of German and Jewish heritage in the past, said Sammy Rosenbaum, a cousin.

    She said she’d lost touch with her cousin but added that “it’s sad all around that he’s gone ….”

    The apparent lack of Jewish practice in the family hasn’t prevented hateful message boards from lighting up with some antisemitic statements about Joseph Rosenbaum. There are also parentheses around “Rosenbaum” in several instances, signifying a Jew.

    Yet some in the family have Christian–themed content posted to public Internet spaces.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    I wonder how that family feels about their tragedy being used for AND AND AND I GET A BIRTHDAY CAKE TOO HEEENH.

    , @Mr McKenna
    @Anonymous

    A curiously defensive tone, and note the 'practicing' qualification.

    Personally, I don't care what his supposed religion is. Doubt it's anything. But seeing the photos and videos, I can't help but wonder that if covid, or a hurricane, or automatic weapons fire happened to take out each and every one of these street urchins, would the nation not be better off for it?

    , @IHTG
    @Anonymous

    "Grosskreutz" isn't Jewish anywhere. Do you know what "Kreutz" means?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    , @Hippopotamusdrome
    @Anonymous

    doesn’t come from practicing Jewish family

     

    Why not just a simple no? Why the weaseling?

    Rosenbaum’s extended family is not Jewish, though there may be a mix of German and Jewish heritage in the past, said Sammy Rosenbaum, a cousin.

     

    I guess the fact checkers would say this is debunked 100% with that answer.

    Yet some in the family have Christian–themed content posted to public Internet spaces.

     

    Yet some of the family are Communists fighting in the streets.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Charlotte

  18. Anonymous[336] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kirt
    I vote for giant conspiracy, maybe funded by Soros, maybe just your tax dollars at work through the FBI or other deep state elements. The massive presence of criminals in these "peaceful demonstrations" is IMHO most easily explained by the fact that LE, especially on the federal level, knows who these people are and how to manipulate them. I imagine the same thing applies to some of the oppositional right-wing elements. This is the Operation Gladio/Strategy of Tension playbook being used in the US rather than abroad.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I vote for giant conspiracy, maybe funded by Soros…This is the Operation Gladio/Strategy of Tension playbook being used in the US rather than abroad.

    Operation Gladio was the US and NATO intelligence services using far-right operatives to commit false flag terror bombings and murders that were pinned on leftists and communists for the purpose of hurting the Left in elections and giving the state an excuse to crackdown on the Left.

    So your analogy doesn’t make sense. It would be like Operation Gladio if it weren’t Soros but rather US intelligence in cahoots with right wingers trying to help Trump win in November.

  19. @t
    OT here's the criminal complaint in the Kenosha shooting to my reading it describes self-defense then charges him with murder 1

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m9sDjYr1Nj_fpFr9bTycWPG8tS2aPDeL/view

    Replies: @Lot, @guest, @jon

    No offense Mr. T, but Google Drive links are a privacy nightmare. Better: imgur, pastebin, archive.org, archive.is.

    Same problem for any sort of facebook link.

    • Agree: botazefa
  20. Emmett Till alert

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Thanks.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    Tim Cook
    @tim_cook
     
    Oh, for the days when Alabama fairies were closeted, and wrote songs like "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas"...

    Well, at least he's not Cat Cora, the Mississippi dyke who spawned a bunch of fatherless boys.
    , @Kolya Krassotkin
    @Anonymous

    If they didn't know they were going to be participating in stirring chit up, why in the hell do they call themselves "Riot Kitchen."

    Cops should impound their Scooby Van, and if drugs are found, sell it at auction.

  21. Soros and his ilk are definitely involved. He has been very clever about creating plausible deniability. Too clever.

  22. Recently, a company named Tectonix GEO used anonymized cell phone data to track Cell phone data of Sturgis bikers in order to see how it spread COVID-19. They also did it for Spring Break.

    Is anyone using such tech to track the Antifa and Friends movement from Seattle to Portland to Wisconsin?

    https://www.businessinsider.com/sturgis-rally-attendees-traveling-covid-phone-data-2020-8?amp

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8160759/Cell-phone-data-reveals-Spring-Break-covidiots-traveled-flooding-beaches.html

  23. @Anonymous

    – physically unattractive
     
    I think this is generally true, and exacerbated by them deliberately cultivating an unattractive look in dress, demeanor, health, etc.

    But in the case of the Kenosha shooting, the 2 victims seemed to be Wisconsin Germanic types who were better looking than the shooter, who despite his name has been reported by some as being Hispanic and has a very broad nose and is generally less attractive.

    https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/LOSElzNtGQn4za0jNpj86wDbSKw=/415x217/top/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/tronc/ZH7357X4YRCYHETVOZTMWJFOCI.jpg

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @jon, @Thoughts, @gent, @JimB

    the 2 victims [sic] seemed to be Wisconsin Germanic types who were better looking than the shooter

    Physical appearance assessment:

    Guy on the left was a 5’3” manlet who never learned, guy on the right (in other pics) was a gangly cross between a billy goat and middle-age John Kerry.

    In comparison to the shooter it’s a draw, unlike the shootings.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    LOL, also the guy on the left is seriously cross-eyed. Just sayin'

    , @Jiminy
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Maybe he is from a rural farming community, if he’s half billy goat. It’s a scary thought.

  24. Free food… with Molotov cocktail chasers.

    The feds finally seem to be going after Antifa now in some places in earnest. 74 rioters in Portland are being brought up on federal charges. These assholes should face the interstate rioting charges that were thrown at RAM for Charlottesville.

  25. So is this a giant Soros-funded conspiracy? Or is it a bunch of Recreational Rioters who drive cross-country to get in on the latest riots?

    A mixture of both I assume.

  26. Something is likely up. Here are some antifa types in Minneapolis back in May. Love how on-brand the guy is with a Mercedes themed hoodie to match his car.

    From a class perspective, antifa definitely includes many lumpen bourgeoisie. Grad student burnouts and ne’er-do-well children of the elite. Think of Mayor De Blasio’s daughter or Tim Kaine’s son who was arrested in the spring of 2017 in an antifa action in Minneapolis.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Clifford Brown

    The nice Scandi guy talking to the trustafarians around the Mercedes should have stepped right up to the drivers's side of the windshield and gotten a nice, clear pic of the VIN. Just for possible future references. Also the girl dressed in all black doesn't need to get any courtesy, since she and her masked man look more like terrorists or burglars than anything else (Halloween is months away) so she needs to just back off 6 feet with her unmasked face while parking in front of someone's house to engage in an illegal activity.

    Definitely the local should have gotten an image of the previous plate to go with the current one.

  27. @Gary in Gramercy
    RiotKitchen206 claims its members "were in Kenosha only to serve meals to people at the demonstrations."

    Of course. Every luncheonette worth its salt stocks plenty of "helmets, gas masks, protective vests, [and] illegal fireworks..."

    What, you never heard of Alice's Restaurant?

    Replies: @guest, @WGary

    Walk right in, sight right down. Baby, burn some white folk alive.

  28. @t
    OT here's the criminal complaint in the Kenosha shooting to my reading it describes self-defense then charges him with murder 1

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m9sDjYr1Nj_fpFr9bTycWPG8tS2aPDeL/view

    Replies: @Lot, @guest, @jon

    Well, yeah. The D.A. asked “Whose side are you on?” and he did not respond “Satan” or even “the black people side.”

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @guest

    Thanks. After the last three months of this insanity I needed that.

    , @anonymous
    @guest

    Thanks. After the last three months of this insanity I needed that.

  29. Anonymous[726] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump is monitoring each and every situation that arises!

    Hahahhahaha.

    I’m voting Kanye as a protest. I despise Trump for his betrayals but I admit Trump/Kushner likely won the election this week.

    THE REELECTED KUSHNERISTS WILL HAMMER THE DEPLORABLES IN THE SECOND TERM.

    Wall Street and Israel will continue being showered with extremely expensive gifts.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Anonymous

    "I'm voting Kanye..." Is he on the ballot in your state?
    "Wall Street... will continue..." Then invest in Wall Street.

  30. So is this a giant Soros-funded conspiracy? Or is it a bunch of Recreational Rioters who drive cross-country to get in on the latest riots?

    It’s both. Billionaires are notorious cheapskates and Recreational Rioters are notoriously broke. Spreading a little gas money around is about all it takes. He loves it that these fools will work for so cheap.

    Really, the expensive part is all the community organizing groups you have to fund for the cash to trickle-down into the itinerant rioters’ gas tanks.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Portlander

    A lot of the money paying the rioters is cash that I'm willing to bet originally came from naive taxpayers being forced to fund 'community' groups of various sorts.

    Replies: @anon

  31. OT:

    Lawyers say R.Kelly attacked in Chicago jail
    Excerpt:
    R. Kelly’s Attorney Douglas C. Anton says he was told that the Chicago prison had gone into lockdown because there were R. Kelly protestors outside, but he couldn’t not confirm that was accurate. “I spoke to him and he is not OK,” he shared. “He is not doing well. This even more reason why he needs to be released. They cannot protect him in the facility.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/news/r-kelly-attacked-in-chicago-prison-by-fellow-inmate/ar-BB18rjPl?li=AAggNb9

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @bruce county

    Oh god. Given the awful stories we hear about prison violence, I hope that bodily fluids were not used.

  32. – pedophile
    – transgender
    – drug addict
    – general criminal
    – punk rocker
    – enjoy vandalism and violence
    – working or lower middle class by background
    – physically unattractive
    – firebugs: people who enjoy starting pretty, pretty fires

    Yep. I’d add

    -people who work in restaurants and bars

    But a lot of them fall into many of the categories you listed.

    I don’t put it past Soros, etc. to pay these idiots and send them to places like Kenosha on luxury buses, but… wouldn’t we have more hard core proof by now?

    • Replies: @SiT
    @JimDandy

    "I don’t put it past Soros, etc. to pay these idiots and send them to places like Kenosha on luxury buses, but… wouldn’t we have more hard core proof by now?"

    Soros pay for high ROI stuff like NGOs to do agitation and logistics (doubles as a way to reward clients with sinecures) and for elections for DA:s and politicians. You don't become a billionaire by routinely doing bad investments like paying trash people to go be violent. It's fun and they'll do that for free as a long as they get some hot meals, somebody to lightly direct them and tacit assurances that they won't be bothered by law enforcement.

    , @Anonymous
    @JimDandy

    Capturing a logistics element is proof. See: https://www.unz.com/isteve/giant-conspiracy-or-recreational-rioters/#comment-4126877

    Usually the sponsoring organization can route logistics convoys through territory they control. This time they tried to go through non-friendly territory and they lost an element.

    Note that cell organizations make it difficult to roll up an entire organization, or even prove that it exists. Antifa is apparently organized with some version of the cell organization.

  33. Sort of OT.

    Steve, you’ve been looking for examples of black people being goaded by The Narrative into doing violence.

    Here’s a story featuring 19-year-old Jayvon Hatchett, from Columbus, GA, who declared that watching reports of police shootings convinced him that going out and stabbing a ‘random’ white man in the neck would be an appropriate response:

    Black Man Stabbed ‘Random’ White AutoZone Employee in the Neck After Watching Police Shooting Videos

    The victim is expected to survive, at least.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    To be safe, a white--particularly a white male--must regard every black man he meets as being capable of and willing to do just what this idiot did. Blacks are weak minded, easily misled by anyone who is disingenuous and psychopathic enough to pander to and exploit their infantile state of mind. To my way of thinking, the liberals who feedback false information into black primitive mentality are more degenerate than the attacker. They're like the pit-bull owner who teaches his dog to sic other innocent, unsuspecting domesticated dogs.

  34. How Giant the Conspiracy?

    Well, there definitely is a conspiracy. Or conspiracies.

    If thugs are being shipped in with Soros money, that’s not necessarily being planned from his lair in the Earth’s core. I’m sure there are cells within cells running their own conspiracies.

    Summer of racial unrest prior to major elections is the grand strategy. The Great Kenosha Caper? Probably more of a medium conspiracy.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @guest

    Why would they swarm Rand Paul?

    https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1299217655816216576

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Harry Baldwin

  35. @t
    OT here's the criminal complaint in the Kenosha shooting to my reading it describes self-defense then charges him with murder 1

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m9sDjYr1Nj_fpFr9bTycWPG8tS2aPDeL/view

    Replies: @Lot, @guest, @jon

    The murder 1 charges seem crazy:
    The first guy approached him, chased him, threw something at him, and then grabbed for his gun.
    The second guy hit him with a skateboard and grabbed his gun.
    The third guy pointed a gun at him.
    This is all straight from the complaint.
    There are two reckless endangerment charges, however, for which he might go down. Those carry up to 12 yrs each, plus 5 more each because of the gun.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @jon


    There are two reckless endangerment charges, however, for which he might go down. Those carry up to 12 yrs each, plus 5 more each because of the gun.
     
    If the police on the spot didn't stop or charge Rittenhouse during their numerous contacts with him that night, then in their judgement at the time he was not guilty of reckless endangerment. Makes it hard to claim later that he was.

    The crucial thing is Tucker Carlson's question concerning why a 17 year old boy from another State had to be the only one trying to protect private property. That, right there, is a question that could motivate quite a bit of action from the undecided population. There have been quite a few utterly unjust verdicts, and if the "up to 12 yrs each, plus 5 more each because of the gun" is imposed, this may be one too many.

    You see the look in that kids face in his Facebook picture? That's the look of every infantryman who ever signed up voluntarily, out of ideals. Lose that and we lose everything.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    , @V. Hickel
    @jon

    He will be a acquitted of all charges except maybe the underage possession misdemeamor.

  36. What about their IQ levels?

    – Anyone seriously into this garbage must be pretty dumb.

  37. ‘Jayvon Hatchett’

    – Who happened to use a knife.

  38. Anon[258] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Once I found out who the kid shot, a eubonics-spewing convicted midget pedophile, an effeminate communist, and an overage skateboard douche who actually believed a skateboard trumps a semi-automatic weapon, I thought, "this kid is cleaning up the streets!"

    I think he was charged with murder because it shuts up the BLM mental cases. The DA know there’s no way they can secure a murder one conviction when he’s shooting at people trying to jump him. That’s not how 1st degree murder convictions work, at all. If they were serious about getting him some jail time, they'd be making manslaughter charges. They’re a hell of a lot easier to muscle through, under the circumstances.

    The kid will walk, with probation.

    Replies: @Anon, @Kronos, @El Dato

    He’ll get nailed for being a minor with a gun, which is the real charge. His punishment for that will be light, though.

    I’m still impressed by his cool-headedness under attack by three morons. He waited until they got their licks in, and even though he was on his back, he finished them all off with great economy of fire and good aim, one two three, and then he went calmly walked down towards the cops with his hands up. If the stupid Antifa crowd hadn’t messed with him, he could have gotten a career in policing. Most people would lose their head in those circumstances.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anon

    I was thinking the same thing. He handled himself well. It must be tempting in that situation to just shoot all hostiles within range, but that would have been disastrous. He kept calm and shot only those individuals directly attacking him.

    Replies: @danand

    , @Anonymous
    @Anon


    I’m still impressed by his cool-headedness under attack by three morons. He waited until they got their licks in, and even though he was on his back, he finished them all off with great economy of fire and good aim, one two three, and then he went calmly walked down towards the cops with his hands up. If the stupid Antifa crowd hadn’t messed with him, he could have gotten a career
     
    Keep in mind kids his age play "Call of Duty" and the like for sometimes eight hours a day. Repetition of tasks perfects the execution of the tasks, and reduces anxiety. He’s probably done the same thing virtually hundreds or thousands of times. It does make a difference.

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome

    , @Nicholas Stix
    @Anon

    "Most people would lose their head in those circumstances."

    I certainly would have. The kid's amazing! He had to have practiced those moves a great deal.

    , @guest
    @Anon

    He is impressive. Though if it were me I wouldn’t be heading to warzones where the authorities aren’t actively against me.

    The Kenosha area specifically is a mystery to me, but Wisconsin is at present hostile territory. Stay away from blue and purple states.

    Where I live, it’s locally-friendly and statewide hostile. Probably local government would fold immediately. Doesn’t mean I won’t defend myself. However, I would recommend friendly outside help stay away.

  39. There are tons of left wing assholes with money in Seattle. They are often guys who got stock options at their tech jobs 20 years ago, and grew very rich as a consequence. Of course some of them are bankrolling these commies. It’s how they get back at the “normies” who didn’t give them the time of day in high school.

    Hopefully someone can track down the people who funded “Riot Kitchen” and bring some federal charges against them, because Jenny Durkan won’t touch them.

  40. @Anonymous

    – physically unattractive
     
    I think this is generally true, and exacerbated by them deliberately cultivating an unattractive look in dress, demeanor, health, etc.

    But in the case of the Kenosha shooting, the 2 victims seemed to be Wisconsin Germanic types who were better looking than the shooter, who despite his name has been reported by some as being Hispanic and has a very broad nose and is generally less attractive.

    https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/LOSElzNtGQn4za0jNpj86wDbSKw=/415x217/top/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/tronc/ZH7357X4YRCYHETVOZTMWJFOCI.jpg

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @jon, @Thoughts, @gent, @JimB

    who despite his name has been reported by some as being Hispanic

    When he first got doxxed, someone pulled this off his social media:
    https://twitter.com/Existing2Resist/status/1298580307579269120/photo/1

  41. @Portlander
    So is this a giant Soros-funded conspiracy? Or is it a bunch of Recreational Rioters who drive cross-country to get in on the latest riots?


    It's both. Billionaires are notorious cheapskates and Recreational Rioters are notoriously broke. Spreading a little gas money around is about all it takes. He loves it that these fools will work for so cheap.

    Really, the expensive part is all the community organizing groups you have to fund for the cash to trickle-down into the itinerant rioters' gas tanks.

    Replies: @Anon

    A lot of the money paying the rioters is cash that I’m willing to bet originally came from naive taxpayers being forced to fund ‘community’ groups of various sorts.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anon

    A lot of the money paying the rioters is cash

    Maybe, but one-time cash-equivalent gift cards are probably easier to move around. Don't expect these rent-a-mobbers to have bank accounts.

  42. If “Black Lives Matter” can really mean “Other lives matter too but Black ones have been historically/systemically undervalued so for the time being we need to give them special attention”, then RiotKitchen206 can likewise have a sophisticated rationale behind it.

  43. My impressions are that white Antifa rioters seem disproportionately to be:

    – pedophile
    – transgender
    – drug addict
    – general criminal
    – punk rocker
    – enjoy vandalism and violence
    – working or lower middle class by background
    – physically unattractive
    – firebugs: people who enjoy starting pretty, pretty fires

    Venting their anger on a world that doesn’t love them for who they are.

    • Agree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
  44. @anon

    My impressions are that white Antifa rioters seem disproportionately to be:

    – pedophile
    – transgender
    – drug addict
    – general criminal
    – punk rocker
    – enjoy vandalism and violence
     
    When I find someone who really hates cops, it never surprises me to find out that he's a criminal. I mean, obviously, if you devote that much energy to hating the police, there's probably a pretty obvious reason for it. But when The Kenosha Kid finally did what he did, I was still taken aback by how he shot three people, and got one child molester and two violent criminals. I mean, I assumed there were at least a few of these people who were just people with misguided, but genuine convictions. But a 100% scumbag rate says something about these people. I just hope other people notice it too.

    Replies: @Kronos, @Bill Jones

    Were they the front line cannon fodder or rear guard?

  45. @Anonymous
    Once I found out who the kid shot, a eubonics-spewing convicted midget pedophile, an effeminate communist, and an overage skateboard douche who actually believed a skateboard trumps a semi-automatic weapon, I thought, "this kid is cleaning up the streets!"

    I think he was charged with murder because it shuts up the BLM mental cases. The DA know there’s no way they can secure a murder one conviction when he’s shooting at people trying to jump him. That’s not how 1st degree murder convictions work, at all. If they were serious about getting him some jail time, they'd be making manslaughter charges. They’re a hell of a lot easier to muscle through, under the circumstances.

    The kid will walk, with probation.

    Replies: @Anon, @Kronos, @El Dato

    I think he was charged with murder because it shuts up the BLM mental cases. The DA know there’s no way they can secure a murder one conviction when he’s shooting at people trying to jump him.

    Any idea if the DA is Soros backed?

  46. @Anonymous
    Emmett Till alert

    https://twitter.com/tim_cook/status/1299190628736098304

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin

    Thanks.

  47. @Anon
    @Portlander

    A lot of the money paying the rioters is cash that I'm willing to bet originally came from naive taxpayers being forced to fund 'community' groups of various sorts.

    Replies: @anon

    A lot of the money paying the rioters is cash

    Maybe, but one-time cash-equivalent gift cards are probably easier to move around. Don’t expect these rent-a-mobbers to have bank accounts.

  48. @J.Ross
    @Pop Warner

    Do you have a source for this? BLM has Jews in important, high level positions, but obviously its footsoldiers are black. Antifa has a historical Jewish origin and leadership, but it also goes back nearly a hundred years. Minnesota and Wisconsin are full of goyim with "Jewish-sounding" names. And as far as Jews being the footsoldiers and not leadership, there's the question of numbers.
    What's interesting (and checkable, by photo and video) is the high number of black representation in very much not black places like Seattle or Kenosha. That suggests a highly disproportionate element.

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Kent Nationalist

    Three antifa were shot and one turned out to be a Jewish paedophile, what are the odds?

  49. The officers reported seeing people from the black bus try to fill multiple fuel cans.

    For a kitchen, eh? Now they’re cooking with gas! I read another article where the “Riot Kitchen” person said they were filling up jerry cans for a generator. Do they have a generator? That person also said they were headed to Washington D.C. Supposedly Antifa/BLM are planning a continous riot in the Capital starting sometime in the Fall and lasting right up to the election.

  50. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Anonymous


    the 2 victims [sic] seemed to be Wisconsin Germanic types who were better looking than the shooter
     
    Physical appearance assessment:

    Guy on the left was a 5’3” manlet who never learned, guy on the right (in other pics) was a gangly cross between a billy goat and middle-age John Kerry.

    In comparison to the shooter it’s a draw, unlike the shootings.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Jiminy

    LOL, also the guy on the left is seriously cross-eyed. Just sayin’

  51. @Anonymous
    @J.Ross


    Minnesota and Wisconsin are full of goyim with “Jewish-sounding” names.
     
    The 3 guys shot in Wisconsin were named Joseph Rosenbaum, Anthony Huber, and Gaige Grosskreutz. If it were NYC or some other place in the Northeast, guys with names like that would likely be Jewish. But in a Midwestern setting like Wisconsin, they're likely to be of German gentile background.

    Rosenbaum is actually from Texas and moved to Wisconsin recently, but Texas also has a lot of German and Czech gentile immigrant descendants with German "Jewish sounding names".

    "Rosenbaum, killed amid Kenosha unrest, doesn’t come from practicing Jewish family"

    https://www.jewishchronicle.org/2020/08/27/rosenbaum-killed-amid-kenosha-unrest-doesnt-come-from-practicing-jewish-family/

    Joseph Rosenbaum doesn’t come from a practicing Jewish family, but that hasn’t stopped some hate-filled internet trolling from appearing online because of his last name.

    Rosenbaum, 36, of Kenosha, was one of two people shot and killed on Tuesday during unrest after the shooting of Jacob Blake. Suspect Kyle Rittenhouse, an Illinois 17-year–old, has been placed under arrest.

    Rosenbaum’s extended family is not Jewish, though there may be a mix of German and Jewish heritage in the past, said Sammy Rosenbaum, a cousin.

    She said she’d lost touch with her cousin but added that “it’s sad all around that he’s gone ….”

    The apparent lack of Jewish practice in the family hasn’t prevented hateful message boards from lighting up with some antisemitic statements about Joseph Rosenbaum. There are also parentheses around “Rosenbaum” in several instances, signifying a Jew.

    Yet some in the family have Christian–themed content posted to public Internet spaces.
     

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Mr McKenna, @IHTG, @Hippopotamusdrome

    I wonder how that family feels about their tragedy being used for AND AND AND I GET A BIRTHDAY CAKE TOO HEEENH.

  52. @Anonymous
    @J.Ross


    Minnesota and Wisconsin are full of goyim with “Jewish-sounding” names.
     
    The 3 guys shot in Wisconsin were named Joseph Rosenbaum, Anthony Huber, and Gaige Grosskreutz. If it were NYC or some other place in the Northeast, guys with names like that would likely be Jewish. But in a Midwestern setting like Wisconsin, they're likely to be of German gentile background.

    Rosenbaum is actually from Texas and moved to Wisconsin recently, but Texas also has a lot of German and Czech gentile immigrant descendants with German "Jewish sounding names".

    "Rosenbaum, killed amid Kenosha unrest, doesn’t come from practicing Jewish family"

    https://www.jewishchronicle.org/2020/08/27/rosenbaum-killed-amid-kenosha-unrest-doesnt-come-from-practicing-jewish-family/

    Joseph Rosenbaum doesn’t come from a practicing Jewish family, but that hasn’t stopped some hate-filled internet trolling from appearing online because of his last name.

    Rosenbaum, 36, of Kenosha, was one of two people shot and killed on Tuesday during unrest after the shooting of Jacob Blake. Suspect Kyle Rittenhouse, an Illinois 17-year–old, has been placed under arrest.

    Rosenbaum’s extended family is not Jewish, though there may be a mix of German and Jewish heritage in the past, said Sammy Rosenbaum, a cousin.

    She said she’d lost touch with her cousin but added that “it’s sad all around that he’s gone ….”

    The apparent lack of Jewish practice in the family hasn’t prevented hateful message boards from lighting up with some antisemitic statements about Joseph Rosenbaum. There are also parentheses around “Rosenbaum” in several instances, signifying a Jew.

    Yet some in the family have Christian–themed content posted to public Internet spaces.
     

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Mr McKenna, @IHTG, @Hippopotamusdrome

    A curiously defensive tone, and note the ‘practicing’ qualification.

    Personally, I don’t care what his supposed religion is. Doubt it’s anything. But seeing the photos and videos, I can’t help but wonder that if covid, or a hurricane, or automatic weapons fire happened to take out each and every one of these street urchins, would the nation not be better off for it?

  53. @Anonymous
    Once I found out who the kid shot, a eubonics-spewing convicted midget pedophile, an effeminate communist, and an overage skateboard douche who actually believed a skateboard trumps a semi-automatic weapon, I thought, "this kid is cleaning up the streets!"

    I think he was charged with murder because it shuts up the BLM mental cases. The DA know there’s no way they can secure a murder one conviction when he’s shooting at people trying to jump him. That’s not how 1st degree murder convictions work, at all. If they were serious about getting him some jail time, they'd be making manslaughter charges. They’re a hell of a lot easier to muscle through, under the circumstances.

    The kid will walk, with probation.

    Replies: @Anon, @Kronos, @El Dato

    The “pedophile” rap is a bit dubious. Looks like he was 18 at the time, so he might just have been having fun with his 17 yo girlfriend and the parents didn’t approve.

    • Replies: @Unhinged Screed
    @El Dato

    He did 12 years. No jurisdiction in the country gives that kind of time for sex with your high school girlfriend.

    , @S. Anonyia
    @El Dato

    It was a pretty serious charge, implying it was with a 12-14 year old girl.

  54. @bruce county
    OT:

    Lawyers say R.Kelly attacked in Chicago jail
    Excerpt:
    R. Kelly’s Attorney Douglas C. Anton says he was told that the Chicago prison had gone into lockdown because there were R. Kelly protestors outside, but he couldn’t not confirm that was accurate. “I spoke to him and he is not OK,” he shared. “He is not doing well. This even more reason why he needs to be released. They cannot protect him in the facility.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/news/r-kelly-attacked-in-chicago-prison-by-fellow-inmate/ar-BB18rjPl?li=AAggNb9

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Oh god. Given the awful stories we hear about prison violence, I hope that bodily fluids were not used.

  55. Arrested in broad daylight! That’s so fascist!

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
    @El Dato

    If they didn't know they were going to be participating in stirring chit up, why in the hell do they call themselves "Riot Kitchen."

    Cops should impound their Scooby Van, and if drugs are found, sell it at auction.

  56. @Anon
    @Anonymous

    He'll get nailed for being a minor with a gun, which is the real charge. His punishment for that will be light, though.

    I'm still impressed by his cool-headedness under attack by three morons. He waited until they got their licks in, and even though he was on his back, he finished them all off with great economy of fire and good aim, one two three, and then he went calmly walked down towards the cops with his hands up. If the stupid Antifa crowd hadn't messed with him, he could have gotten a career in policing. Most people would lose their head in those circumstances.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Nicholas Stix, @guest

    I was thinking the same thing. He handled himself well. It must be tempting in that situation to just shoot all hostiles within range, but that would have been disastrous. He kept calm and shot only those individuals directly attacking him.

    • Replies: @danand
    @Anonymous


    “He kept calm and shot only those individuals directly attacking him.”
     
    #277, an unusual level of restraint. It appeared he had fired at least a couple “warning shots” prior to his first attacker going down. Then remained remarkable calm after the subsequent attacks.

    I was viewing the live steams as they happened, bizarre to say the least. Part of that bizarreness was that “amateur pressman” CJ Halliburton from Seattle was a little too Johnny on the spot, applying a tourniquet to the hand gun toting rioter with the arm wound; just as he had been there to extinguish flames licking up on the church a night, or was it two, prior.

    After coming to that mans aid, CJ’s lens caught a very distressed woman, skateboard under arm, pick the skateboard that had been used to attack Rittenhouse moments earlier.


    Tonight, Thursday, the “rioting aspect” of protests across the country appear to have suddenly vaporized after non-stop, nightly activity. Did the DNC put out orders to end them, was it the DNC who dropped the dime on the “vending trucks”, or are the professionals all headed to DC for Friday nights mega event?

  57. @Anonymous
    @J.Ross


    Minnesota and Wisconsin are full of goyim with “Jewish-sounding” names.
     
    The 3 guys shot in Wisconsin were named Joseph Rosenbaum, Anthony Huber, and Gaige Grosskreutz. If it were NYC or some other place in the Northeast, guys with names like that would likely be Jewish. But in a Midwestern setting like Wisconsin, they're likely to be of German gentile background.

    Rosenbaum is actually from Texas and moved to Wisconsin recently, but Texas also has a lot of German and Czech gentile immigrant descendants with German "Jewish sounding names".

    "Rosenbaum, killed amid Kenosha unrest, doesn’t come from practicing Jewish family"

    https://www.jewishchronicle.org/2020/08/27/rosenbaum-killed-amid-kenosha-unrest-doesnt-come-from-practicing-jewish-family/

    Joseph Rosenbaum doesn’t come from a practicing Jewish family, but that hasn’t stopped some hate-filled internet trolling from appearing online because of his last name.

    Rosenbaum, 36, of Kenosha, was one of two people shot and killed on Tuesday during unrest after the shooting of Jacob Blake. Suspect Kyle Rittenhouse, an Illinois 17-year–old, has been placed under arrest.

    Rosenbaum’s extended family is not Jewish, though there may be a mix of German and Jewish heritage in the past, said Sammy Rosenbaum, a cousin.

    She said she’d lost touch with her cousin but added that “it’s sad all around that he’s gone ….”

    The apparent lack of Jewish practice in the family hasn’t prevented hateful message boards from lighting up with some antisemitic statements about Joseph Rosenbaum. There are also parentheses around “Rosenbaum” in several instances, signifying a Jew.

    Yet some in the family have Christian–themed content posted to public Internet spaces.
     

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Mr McKenna, @IHTG, @Hippopotamusdrome

    “Grosskreutz” isn’t Jewish anywhere. Do you know what “Kreutz” means?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @IHTG


    “Grosskreutz” isn’t Jewish anywhere. Do you know what “Kreutz” means?
     
    This is true. But the late Noel Ignatiev had as Christian a name as imaginable, yet was still Jewish. Maybe his name irritated him to some degree.
    , @Anonymous
    @IHTG


    “Grosskreutz” isn’t Jewish anywhere. Do you know what “Kreutz” means?
     
    "Kreutz" means "Cross"; "Grosskreutz" means "Big Cross". So unlikely to be a Jewish name, although I don't think it's completely unheard of for a Jewish surname to be "Kreutz" or have "Kreutz" in it. For example, "Kreutzberger":

    https://dbs.bh.org.il/familyname/kreutzberger

    The point is that people often tend to assume in the US that German sounding names are Jewish names.
  58. @Hippopotamusdrome
    @J.Ross



    Do you have a source for this? BLM has Jews in important, high level positions, but obviously its footsoldiers are black.

     

    LOL.

    Names of the people killed in Kenosha by Rittenhouse:

    Joseph Rosenbaum

    Anthony Huber

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Crank

    Names of the people killed in Kenosha by Rittenhouse:

    Joseph Rosenbaum

    Anthony Huber

    Herbert and J Edgar Hoover were scions of Huber immigrants. One was Quaker, one a fag, but neither was Jewish. Clean the guy up, with a haircut and a shave, and he would fit on an NSDAP poster.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    I usually don't like this sort of talk, but his nose shape is more semitic than teutonic.

    , @Rob McX
    @Reg Cæsar

    J Edgar was a fag? I think the evidence is inconclusive on that.

  59. @Anonymous
    Emmett Till alert

    https://twitter.com/tim_cook/status/1299190628736098304

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin

    Tim Cook
    im_cook

    Oh, for the days when Alabama fairies were closeted, and wrote songs like “Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas”…

    Well, at least he’s not Cat Cora, the Mississippi dyke who spawned a bunch of fatherless boys.

    • LOL: S. Anonyia
  60. @IHTG
    @Anonymous

    "Grosskreutz" isn't Jewish anywhere. Do you know what "Kreutz" means?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    “Grosskreutz” isn’t Jewish anywhere. Do you know what “Kreutz” means?

    This is true. But the late Noel Ignatiev had as Christian a name as imaginable, yet was still Jewish. Maybe his name irritated him to some degree.

  61. @Anonymous

    – physically unattractive
     
    I think this is generally true, and exacerbated by them deliberately cultivating an unattractive look in dress, demeanor, health, etc.

    But in the case of the Kenosha shooting, the 2 victims seemed to be Wisconsin Germanic types who were better looking than the shooter, who despite his name has been reported by some as being Hispanic and has a very broad nose and is generally less attractive.

    https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/LOSElzNtGQn4za0jNpj86wDbSKw=/415x217/top/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/tronc/ZH7357X4YRCYHETVOZTMWJFOCI.jpg

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @jon, @Thoughts, @gent, @JimB

    Rosenbaum was 5’3—a 5’3 male…..that’s bad…that’s really really bad…in real life he was basically a dwarf

    The other two were very unattractive

  62. @Anonymous
    @Anon

    I was thinking the same thing. He handled himself well. It must be tempting in that situation to just shoot all hostiles within range, but that would have been disastrous. He kept calm and shot only those individuals directly attacking him.

    Replies: @danand

    “He kept calm and shot only those individuals directly attacking him.”

    #277, an unusual level of restraint. It appeared he had fired at least a couple “warning shots” prior to his first attacker going down. Then remained remarkable calm after the subsequent attacks.

    I was viewing the live steams as they happened, bizarre to say the least. Part of that bizarreness was that “amateur pressman” CJ Halliburton from Seattle was a little too Johnny on the spot, applying a tourniquet to the hand gun toting rioter with the arm wound; just as he had been there to extinguish flames licking up on the church a night, or was it two, prior.

    After coming to that mans aid, CJ’s lens caught a very distressed woman, skateboard under arm, pick the skateboard that had been used to attack Rittenhouse moments earlier.

    Tonight, Thursday, the “rioting aspect” of protests across the country appear to have suddenly vaporized after non-stop, nightly activity. Did the DNC put out orders to end them, was it the DNC who dropped the dime on the “vending trucks”, or are the professionals all headed to DC for Friday nights mega event?

  63. @guest
    @t

    Well, yeah. The D.A. asked “Whose side are you on?” and he did not respond “Satan” or even “the black people side.”

    Replies: @anonymous, @anonymous

    Thanks. After the last three months of this insanity I needed that.

  64. Anonymous[285] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    @Anonymous

    He'll get nailed for being a minor with a gun, which is the real charge. His punishment for that will be light, though.

    I'm still impressed by his cool-headedness under attack by three morons. He waited until they got their licks in, and even though he was on his back, he finished them all off with great economy of fire and good aim, one two three, and then he went calmly walked down towards the cops with his hands up. If the stupid Antifa crowd hadn't messed with him, he could have gotten a career in policing. Most people would lose their head in those circumstances.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Nicholas Stix, @guest

    I’m still impressed by his cool-headedness under attack by three morons. He waited until they got their licks in, and even though he was on his back, he finished them all off with great economy of fire and good aim, one two three, and then he went calmly walked down towards the cops with his hands up. If the stupid Antifa crowd hadn’t messed with him, he could have gotten a career

    Keep in mind kids his age play “Call of Duty” and the like for sometimes eight hours a day. Repetition of tasks perfects the execution of the tasks, and reduces anxiety. He’s probably done the same thing virtually hundreds or thousands of times. It does make a difference.

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
    @Anonymous

    But can also have disadvantages.
    Living with First-Person Shooter Disease

  65. @guest
    How Giant the Conspiracy?

    Well, there definitely is a conspiracy. Or conspiracies.

    If thugs are being shipped in with Soros money, that’s not necessarily being planned from his lair in the Earth’s core. I’m sure there are cells within cells running their own conspiracies.

    Summer of racial unrest prior to major elections is the grand strategy. The Great Kenosha Caper? Probably more of a medium conspiracy.

    Replies: @El Dato

    Why would they swarm Rand Paul?

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @El Dato

    https://twitter.com/CHSommers/status/1299349222085533697

    Replies: @anon

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @El Dato

    I thought black people loved Rand Paul, after he pandered to them.


    When Paul stopped in Detroit in December 2013 to help open a new Michigan Republican Party office in a northwest neighborhood, he advocated reaching out to black voters in a way the GOP has failed to do in the past. The candidate has a campaign message he believes will appeal to inner-city audiences.
     
    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/07/10/rand-paul-hits-urban-issues-democratic-stronghold/29991223/
  66. @Anonymous
    @J.Ross


    Minnesota and Wisconsin are full of goyim with “Jewish-sounding” names.
     
    The 3 guys shot in Wisconsin were named Joseph Rosenbaum, Anthony Huber, and Gaige Grosskreutz. If it were NYC or some other place in the Northeast, guys with names like that would likely be Jewish. But in a Midwestern setting like Wisconsin, they're likely to be of German gentile background.

    Rosenbaum is actually from Texas and moved to Wisconsin recently, but Texas also has a lot of German and Czech gentile immigrant descendants with German "Jewish sounding names".

    "Rosenbaum, killed amid Kenosha unrest, doesn’t come from practicing Jewish family"

    https://www.jewishchronicle.org/2020/08/27/rosenbaum-killed-amid-kenosha-unrest-doesnt-come-from-practicing-jewish-family/

    Joseph Rosenbaum doesn’t come from a practicing Jewish family, but that hasn’t stopped some hate-filled internet trolling from appearing online because of his last name.

    Rosenbaum, 36, of Kenosha, was one of two people shot and killed on Tuesday during unrest after the shooting of Jacob Blake. Suspect Kyle Rittenhouse, an Illinois 17-year–old, has been placed under arrest.

    Rosenbaum’s extended family is not Jewish, though there may be a mix of German and Jewish heritage in the past, said Sammy Rosenbaum, a cousin.

    She said she’d lost touch with her cousin but added that “it’s sad all around that he’s gone ….”

    The apparent lack of Jewish practice in the family hasn’t prevented hateful message boards from lighting up with some antisemitic statements about Joseph Rosenbaum. There are also parentheses around “Rosenbaum” in several instances, signifying a Jew.

    Yet some in the family have Christian–themed content posted to public Internet spaces.
     

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Mr McKenna, @IHTG, @Hippopotamusdrome

    doesn’t come from practicing Jewish family

    Why not just a simple no? Why the weaseling?

    Rosenbaum’s extended family is not Jewish, though there may be a mix of German and Jewish heritage in the past, said Sammy Rosenbaum, a cousin.

    I guess the fact checkers would say this is debunked 100% with that answer.

    Yet some in the family have Christian–themed content posted to public Internet spaces.

    Yet some of the family are Communists fighting in the streets.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Hippopotamusdrome


    I guess the fact checkers would say this is debunked 100% with that answer.
     
    Most people don't have intimate knowledge of their genealogies. If a bunch of people aggressively and confidently assert that their name indicates at least some Jewish heritage, they're likely to believe it whether it's true or not.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenbaum

    Rosenbaum is a surname of German origin, which translates as "rose tree" and which was given to people living in the proximity of rose bushes.[1] The surname is common among Ashkenazi Jews, but is also associated with various non-Jews of German origin.
     
    , @Charlotte
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    I’d guess the reporter asked the cousin if they were Jewish, and she (or is it he?) said something like, “I dunno, I don’t think so, maybe way back.” There are lots of gentiles with “Jewish-sounding” German names in my Midwestern community-including me, and many people don’t know much about their history beyond their grandparents.

  67. @guest
    @t

    Well, yeah. The D.A. asked “Whose side are you on?” and he did not respond “Satan” or even “the black people side.”

    Replies: @anonymous, @anonymous

    Thanks. After the last three months of this insanity I needed that.

  68. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:

    The separate logistics operation is, quite literally, the textbook prescription for the early stages of guerilla warfare. “guerilla” is Spanish for “small war”, dates back to Napoleon’s occupation of Spain, when defeating the Spanish Throne turned out to be different from defeating the Spanish.

    Generally the overall organization is tripartate — political/civil, combat troops, logistics. The political/civil handles local government (“snitches get stitches and end up in ditches”, mainly). The combat troops (“fighters”) handles ambushes, strong arm for the political arm, and so forth, and may include a combat medic competent. The logistics part handles combat equipment/booby trap production, food storage, etc.

    Each part is organized by cells — that is, few (ideally one) of the people in the cell have contact with higher levels of the organization, and few (ideally one) of the people in the subordinate cell. That makes rolling up the organization difficult. Miss one member of the cell and some part of the organization survives. Generally speaking, the more the authorities to to destroy some part of the organization, the smaller the cell size.

    Obviously, communications are slow and cells occasionally get lost — re-contacting them is a serious problem. This form of organization only succeeds when there is serious outside money and supply for them, and when there is a large supply of people willing to work for, essentially, food, clothing, and shelter. The political branch assures that these element will be provided to the extent possible by local populations.

    The goal is to weaken/attrit target government forces by many small raids/ambushes. If the cell organization is successful, it will control territory (“no-go” zones) and abandon the cell organization within the territory it controls. Eventually, the conventional forces of the target government are defeated by large conventional forces. A variant, used where possible as it is much cheaper and produces immediate legitimacy for the successful organization, is to defeat the government in elections.

    That’s just the basics — many elaborations have been tried. Sometimes guerilla warfare succeeds (Israel, S. Vietnam), sometimes not (“Shining path”). As Genghis Khan is said to have told his force before invading the Middle East, “War has been declared, and none under the blue sky knows who will win.” But now you know something about what capturing an element of the logistics branch means. It is the first solid evidence released to the public that somebody is trying serious guerilla warfare. Suddenly the “color revolution” accusations and the “Soros” accusations have solid evidence behind them. And the implications of that you can figure out for yourself, no need for me to spell them out.

    • Thanks: ic1000
  69. @Anonymous

    – physically unattractive
     
    I think this is generally true, and exacerbated by them deliberately cultivating an unattractive look in dress, demeanor, health, etc.

    But in the case of the Kenosha shooting, the 2 victims seemed to be Wisconsin Germanic types who were better looking than the shooter, who despite his name has been reported by some as being Hispanic and has a very broad nose and is generally less attractive.

    https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/LOSElzNtGQn4za0jNpj86wDbSKw=/415x217/top/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/tronc/ZH7357X4YRCYHETVOZTMWJFOCI.jpg

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @jon, @Thoughts, @gent, @JimB

    Actually, all three of the antifa shot were of jewish heritage.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @gent

    Actually, they weren't. Actually, none of them. Grosskreutz means "Great Cross". There are zero Jews named Grosskreutz. Huber (often Anglicized as Hoover) is not a Jewish name either. Rosenbaum is usually Jewish but this one isn't.

    Wisconsin is rich in Germans with Germanic names. If you meet someone named Zimmerman in NY, chances are he's Jewish but a Zimmerman in Wisconsin is, dollars to donuts, of German descent.

    I think that for some WN types, seeing other white people in Antifa creates cognitive dissonance - what are my fellow white people doing, fighting for the other team? The easiest way to quell that confusion is to say, well, these folks may look white but they ain't - they are really Joos. That explains it. Now I may sleep restfully and not worry about traitors among my race. Now there are plenty of folks here who are prone to pinning anything bad or Leftist on the Joos anyway, but a shocking # of people have chimed in on this thread to falsely accuse the Jews based on (I assume) the fact that the guys whom Rittenhouse shot had Germanic names. Unfortunately, this just makes you sound stupid and ignorant. Now you probably ARE stupid and ignorant, but there's no point in publicly confirming it.

    Jews indeed have been active in many Leftist revolutionary movements. But not this one. Sorry boys, you ain't pinnin' Antifa on the Jews, as much as you'd like to. I'm not saying that there are zero Jews in Antifa. There must be some. But they are not especially plentiful. Getting dressed up in shit kicker boots and a gas mask and going out there to break windows and heads and set fires is just not the average Jewish guy's idea of a good time.

    Replies: @Johnny Smoggins, @anon, @Gordo, @Redman, @Giancarlo M. Kumquat

  70. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @jon
    @t

    The murder 1 charges seem crazy:
    The first guy approached him, chased him, threw something at him, and then grabbed for his gun.
    The second guy hit him with a skateboard and grabbed his gun.
    The third guy pointed a gun at him.
    This is all straight from the complaint.
    There are two reckless endangerment charges, however, for which he might go down. Those carry up to 12 yrs each, plus 5 more each because of the gun.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @V. Hickel

    There are two reckless endangerment charges, however, for which he might go down. Those carry up to 12 yrs each, plus 5 more each because of the gun.

    If the police on the spot didn’t stop or charge Rittenhouse during their numerous contacts with him that night, then in their judgement at the time he was not guilty of reckless endangerment. Makes it hard to claim later that he was.

    The crucial thing is Tucker Carlson’s question concerning why a 17 year old boy from another State had to be the only one trying to protect private property. That, right there, is a question that could motivate quite a bit of action from the undecided population. There have been quite a few utterly unjust verdicts, and if the “up to 12 yrs each, plus 5 more each because of the gun” is imposed, this may be one too many.

    You see the look in that kids face in his Facebook picture? That’s the look of every infantryman who ever signed up voluntarily, out of ideals. Lose that and we lose everything.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Anonymous


    You see the look in that kids face in his Facebook picture? That’s the look of every infantryman who ever signed up voluntarily, out of ideals. Lose that and we lose everything.
     
    That's goddamn right.

    The most fearsome weapon on this Earth is, and will always be, a patriotic American carrying his battle rifle.
  71. @JimDandy
    – pedophile
    – transgender
    – drug addict
    – general criminal
    – punk rocker
    – enjoy vandalism and violence
    – working or lower middle class by background
    – physically unattractive
    – firebugs: people who enjoy starting pretty, pretty fires


    Yep. I'd add

    -people who work in restaurants and bars

    But a lot of them fall into many of the categories you listed.

    I don't put it past Soros, etc. to pay these idiots and send them to places like Kenosha on luxury buses, but... wouldn't we have more hard core proof by now?

    Replies: @SiT, @Anonymous

    “I don’t put it past Soros, etc. to pay these idiots and send them to places like Kenosha on luxury buses, but… wouldn’t we have more hard core proof by now?”

    Soros pay for high ROI stuff like NGOs to do agitation and logistics (doubles as a way to reward clients with sinecures) and for elections for DA:s and politicians. You don’t become a billionaire by routinely doing bad investments like paying trash people to go be violent. It’s fun and they’ll do that for free as a long as they get some hot meals, somebody to lightly direct them and tacit assurances that they won’t be bothered by law enforcement.

  72. @Anon
    @Anonymous

    He'll get nailed for being a minor with a gun, which is the real charge. His punishment for that will be light, though.

    I'm still impressed by his cool-headedness under attack by three morons. He waited until they got their licks in, and even though he was on his back, he finished them all off with great economy of fire and good aim, one two three, and then he went calmly walked down towards the cops with his hands up. If the stupid Antifa crowd hadn't messed with him, he could have gotten a career in policing. Most people would lose their head in those circumstances.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Nicholas Stix, @guest

    “Most people would lose their head in those circumstances.”

    I certainly would have. The kid’s amazing! He had to have practiced those moves a great deal.

  73. @The Last Real Calvinist
    Sort of OT.

    Steve, you've been looking for examples of black people being goaded by The Narrative into doing violence.

    Here's a story featuring 19-year-old Jayvon Hatchett, from Columbus, GA, who declared that watching reports of police shootings convinced him that going out and stabbing a 'random' white man in the neck would be an appropriate response:

    Black Man Stabbed 'Random' White AutoZone Employee in the Neck After Watching Police Shooting Videos

    The victim is expected to survive, at least.

    Replies: @ThreeCranes

    To be safe, a white–particularly a white male–must regard every black man he meets as being capable of and willing to do just what this idiot did. Blacks are weak minded, easily misled by anyone who is disingenuous and psychopathic enough to pander to and exploit their infantile state of mind. To my way of thinking, the liberals who feedback false information into black primitive mentality are more degenerate than the attacker. They’re like the pit-bull owner who teaches his dog to sic other innocent, unsuspecting domesticated dogs.

  74. @Anon
    @Anonymous

    He'll get nailed for being a minor with a gun, which is the real charge. His punishment for that will be light, though.

    I'm still impressed by his cool-headedness under attack by three morons. He waited until they got their licks in, and even though he was on his back, he finished them all off with great economy of fire and good aim, one two three, and then he went calmly walked down towards the cops with his hands up. If the stupid Antifa crowd hadn't messed with him, he could have gotten a career in policing. Most people would lose their head in those circumstances.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Nicholas Stix, @guest

    He is impressive. Though if it were me I wouldn’t be heading to warzones where the authorities aren’t actively against me.

    The Kenosha area specifically is a mystery to me, but Wisconsin is at present hostile territory. Stay away from blue and purple states.

    Where I live, it’s locally-friendly and statewide hostile. Probably local government would fold immediately. Doesn’t mean I won’t defend myself. However, I would recommend friendly outside help stay away.

  75. You forgot to mention antifas are likely satanists. For someone who lived in the eighties, it’s an inexcusable omission.

    I don’t understand what is so surprising that some people are fed up and act on their feelings. Isn’t this the most likely scenario in a country so militarized, that proper revolutions never amounted to anything more? Aren’t tantrums to be expected from a nation where toddlers are thought incapable of controlling their sphincters, and adults play video games?

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @BB753
    @Dacian Julien Soros

    Steve Sailer, deep down, still lives in a utopian pre-1968 America which never even existed.
    The government can do no harm, checks and balances are in place, the FBI is squeaky clean and 90 % staffed with Mormons, the Cold War was really about Communism against Liberty , the US military is conservative, democracy and free-market are the solution, the Pope is still Catholic, we can all get along, etc.
    In a sense, I can understand him because it's hard to realize in your old age that everything you took for granted and believed in was a sham. But getting rid of old prejudices can help you cope better with the current ugly reality and understand it better. I hope Sailer 2.0 emerges in this decade with greater insights and renewed strength.

    Replies: @David Davenport

  76. After three nights of hell on earth, order spontaneously returned to the streets of Kenosha on Thursday night with all BLM protesters off the streets by 10:30 pm and virtually no violence. People of Kenosha, thank Kyle Rittenhouse. All it took was a modest culling of the BLM herd to teach it some fear.

    • Thanks: HammerJack
    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @JimB


    People of Kenosha, thank Kyle Rittenhouse. All it took was a modest culling of the BLM herd to teach it some fear.
     
    Amazing what happens when someone finally punches a bully in the mouth, innit?
    , @V. Hickel
    @JimB

    That, or orders came down...

    , @Mr McKenna
    @JimB

    Reminds me of nothing so much as one Mr Bernhard Goetz, who administered a few corrections to a pack of assailants in the NYC subway system one evening back in the Bad Old Days. Subway crime throughout the entire MTA system plummeted almost instantly and remained suppressed for two full weeks. The MTA had never seen anything remotely like that. Herd is the word indeed--a herd mentality.

  77. @Anonymous
    Trump is monitoring each and every situation that arises!

    Hahahhahaha.

    I'm voting Kanye as a protest. I despise Trump for his betrayals but I admit Trump/Kushner likely won the election this week.

    THE REELECTED KUSHNERISTS WILL HAMMER THE DEPLORABLES IN THE SECOND TERM.

    Wall Street and Israel will continue being showered with extremely expensive gifts.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

    “I’m voting Kanye…” Is he on the ballot in your state?
    “Wall Street… will continue…” Then invest in Wall Street.

  78. Ever since the Grateful Dead stopped touring.

  79. @JimB
    After three nights of hell on earth, order spontaneously returned to the streets of Kenosha on Thursday night with all BLM protesters off the streets by 10:30 pm and virtually no violence. People of Kenosha, thank Kyle Rittenhouse. All it took was a modest culling of the BLM herd to teach it some fear.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @V. Hickel, @Mr McKenna

    People of Kenosha, thank Kyle Rittenhouse. All it took was a modest culling of the BLM herd to teach it some fear.

    Amazing what happens when someone finally punches a bully in the mouth, innit?

  80. @gent
    @Anonymous

    Actually, all three of the antifa shot were of jewish heritage.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Actually, they weren’t. Actually, none of them. Grosskreutz means “Great Cross”. There are zero Jews named Grosskreutz. Huber (often Anglicized as Hoover) is not a Jewish name either. Rosenbaum is usually Jewish but this one isn’t.

    Wisconsin is rich in Germans with Germanic names. If you meet someone named Zimmerman in NY, chances are he’s Jewish but a Zimmerman in Wisconsin is, dollars to donuts, of German descent.

    I think that for some WN types, seeing other white people in Antifa creates cognitive dissonance – what are my fellow white people doing, fighting for the other team? The easiest way to quell that confusion is to say, well, these folks may look white but they ain’t – they are really Joos. That explains it. Now I may sleep restfully and not worry about traitors among my race. Now there are plenty of folks here who are prone to pinning anything bad or Leftist on the Joos anyway, but a shocking # of people have chimed in on this thread to falsely accuse the Jews based on (I assume) the fact that the guys whom Rittenhouse shot had Germanic names. Unfortunately, this just makes you sound stupid and ignorant. Now you probably ARE stupid and ignorant, but there’s no point in publicly confirming it.

    Jews indeed have been active in many Leftist revolutionary movements. But not this one. Sorry boys, you ain’t pinnin’ Antifa on the Jews, as much as you’d like to. I’m not saying that there are zero Jews in Antifa. There must be some. But they are not especially plentiful. Getting dressed up in shit kicker boots and a gas mask and going out there to break windows and heads and set fires is just not the average Jewish guy’s idea of a good time.

    • Agree: Redman
    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
    @Jack D

    Antifa is an entirely Jewish creation that is largely funded by Jewish George Soros. It's no exaggeration to call it a Jewish terrorist organization, which is what it was created as.

    That does not mean that there aren't plenty of White people in it, something no WN that I'm aware of would deny.

    I'd love to see Ron do one of his American Pravda essays on the subject.

    , @anon
    @Jack D

    Rosenbaum is usually Jewish but this one isn’t.

    Really? Prove it.

    Wisconsin is rich in Germans with Germanic names.

    But this Rosenbaum came from Texas originally.

    I think that for some WN types, seeing other white people in Antifa creates cognitive dissonance – what are my fellow white people doing, fighting for the other team?

    As opposed to what happens when Jews see other Jews committing crimes, right? Like, remember when you defended Jeffrey Epstein by saying, basically, that the girls wanted it?

    Jews indeed have been active in many Leftist revolutionary movements. But not this one.

    https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-attacks-on-antifa-are-attacks-on-jews-1.8902330

    But they are not especially plentiful. Getting dressed up in shit kicker boots and a gas mask and going out there to break windows and heads and set fires is just not the average Jewish guy’s idea of a good time.

    What about giving money to the people who go out and do that, Jack? How much money would you estimate the Jews have given to these rioters?

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Gordo
    @Jack D


    Rosenbaum is usually Jewish but this one isn’t.
     
    https://twitter.com/Aarick20/status/1298814752941125633/photo/1

    Not practisng you mean?

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

    , @Redman
    @Jack D

    Just asking. But aren’t a lot of Jews with German names also of at least somewhat German descent?

    I understand that there is this ethnic divide that seems so significant to many folks. But I took 23andme and discovered I was around 1 percent Ashkenazi. I have a very German last name (my father’s parents were born there and immigrated in the 1920s). Because of my name I have often been mistaken for being Jewish, and was invited to join the Jewish student’s organization in law school. In high school, I played in a Jewish basketball league as well at the behest of my friend Marc Schwartz.

    My vague understanding is that Ashkenazi Jews originated in the German Rhineland region in places like Mainz, Worms and Speyer. Ironically, the same small region that generated Protestantism. Could there not have been more “mixing” among Ashkenazim in those areas than we currently believe?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Bill P

    , @Giancarlo M. Kumquat
    @Jack D

    Well,you may be right,but I still say the guy who who showed up in blackface was doing a tribute to Al Jolson.

  81. Steve,

    They cannot be working class! You have to actually have a job and WORK. to be working class. Since these children can go anywhere anytime to feed the rioters they obviously do not have jobs and do not work. I think I met their rich coddled grandparents back in the 60’s and 70’s when I was working my way through college

  82. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @JimDandy
    – pedophile
    – transgender
    – drug addict
    – general criminal
    – punk rocker
    – enjoy vandalism and violence
    – working or lower middle class by background
    – physically unattractive
    – firebugs: people who enjoy starting pretty, pretty fires


    Yep. I'd add

    -people who work in restaurants and bars

    But a lot of them fall into many of the categories you listed.

    I don't put it past Soros, etc. to pay these idiots and send them to places like Kenosha on luxury buses, but... wouldn't we have more hard core proof by now?

    Replies: @SiT, @Anonymous

    Capturing a logistics element is proof. See: https://www.unz.com/isteve/giant-conspiracy-or-recreational-rioters/#comment-4126877

    Usually the sponsoring organization can route logistics convoys through territory they control. This time they tried to go through non-friendly territory and they lost an element.

    Note that cell organizations make it difficult to roll up an entire organization, or even prove that it exists. Antifa is apparently organized with some version of the cell organization.

  83. @Dacian Julien Soros
    You forgot to mention antifas are likely satanists. For someone who lived in the eighties, it's an inexcusable omission.

    I don't understand what is so surprising that some people are fed up and act on their feelings. Isn't this the most likely scenario in a country so militarized, that proper revolutions never amounted to anything more? Aren't tantrums to be expected from a nation where toddlers are thought incapable of controlling their sphincters, and adults play video games?

    Replies: @BB753

    Steve Sailer, deep down, still lives in a utopian pre-1968 America which never even existed.
    The government can do no harm, checks and balances are in place, the FBI is squeaky clean and 90 % staffed with Mormons, the Cold War was really about Communism against Liberty , the US military is conservative, democracy and free-market are the solution, the Pope is still Catholic, we can all get along, etc.
    In a sense, I can understand him because it’s hard to realize in your old age that everything you took for granted and believed in was a sham. But getting rid of old prejudices can help you cope better with the current ugly reality and understand it better. I hope Sailer 2.0 emerges in this decade with greater insights and renewed strength.

    • Replies: @David Davenport
    @BB753

    the FBI is squeaky clean and 90 % staffed with Mormons

    BB.753 , your Democrat politicians are the ones backing the FBI plot against Trump.

    the Cold War was really about Communism against Liberty

    So tell us what what the Cold War wad about, BB.

    Replies: @BB753

  84. @Jack D
    @gent

    Actually, they weren't. Actually, none of them. Grosskreutz means "Great Cross". There are zero Jews named Grosskreutz. Huber (often Anglicized as Hoover) is not a Jewish name either. Rosenbaum is usually Jewish but this one isn't.

    Wisconsin is rich in Germans with Germanic names. If you meet someone named Zimmerman in NY, chances are he's Jewish but a Zimmerman in Wisconsin is, dollars to donuts, of German descent.

    I think that for some WN types, seeing other white people in Antifa creates cognitive dissonance - what are my fellow white people doing, fighting for the other team? The easiest way to quell that confusion is to say, well, these folks may look white but they ain't - they are really Joos. That explains it. Now I may sleep restfully and not worry about traitors among my race. Now there are plenty of folks here who are prone to pinning anything bad or Leftist on the Joos anyway, but a shocking # of people have chimed in on this thread to falsely accuse the Jews based on (I assume) the fact that the guys whom Rittenhouse shot had Germanic names. Unfortunately, this just makes you sound stupid and ignorant. Now you probably ARE stupid and ignorant, but there's no point in publicly confirming it.

    Jews indeed have been active in many Leftist revolutionary movements. But not this one. Sorry boys, you ain't pinnin' Antifa on the Jews, as much as you'd like to. I'm not saying that there are zero Jews in Antifa. There must be some. But they are not especially plentiful. Getting dressed up in shit kicker boots and a gas mask and going out there to break windows and heads and set fires is just not the average Jewish guy's idea of a good time.

    Replies: @Johnny Smoggins, @anon, @Gordo, @Redman, @Giancarlo M. Kumquat

    Antifa is an entirely Jewish creation that is largely funded by Jewish George Soros. It’s no exaggeration to call it a Jewish terrorist organization, which is what it was created as.

    That does not mean that there aren’t plenty of White people in it, something no WN that I’m aware of would deny.

    I’d love to see Ron do one of his American Pravda essays on the subject.

  85. @jon
    @t

    The murder 1 charges seem crazy:
    The first guy approached him, chased him, threw something at him, and then grabbed for his gun.
    The second guy hit him with a skateboard and grabbed his gun.
    The third guy pointed a gun at him.
    This is all straight from the complaint.
    There are two reckless endangerment charges, however, for which he might go down. Those carry up to 12 yrs each, plus 5 more each because of the gun.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @V. Hickel

    He will be a acquitted of all charges except maybe the underage possession misdemeamor.

  86. @JimB
    After three nights of hell on earth, order spontaneously returned to the streets of Kenosha on Thursday night with all BLM protesters off the streets by 10:30 pm and virtually no violence. People of Kenosha, thank Kyle Rittenhouse. All it took was a modest culling of the BLM herd to teach it some fear.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @V. Hickel, @Mr McKenna

    That, or orders came down…

  87. Is it just me? I thought everyone had those things in their car, along with a bug-out bag.

  88. @Anonymous
    @J.Ross


    Minnesota and Wisconsin are full of goyim with “Jewish-sounding” names.
     
    The 3 guys shot in Wisconsin were named Joseph Rosenbaum, Anthony Huber, and Gaige Grosskreutz. If it were NYC or some other place in the Northeast, guys with names like that would likely be Jewish. But in a Midwestern setting like Wisconsin, they're likely to be of German gentile background.

    Rosenbaum is actually from Texas and moved to Wisconsin recently, but Texas also has a lot of German and Czech gentile immigrant descendants with German "Jewish sounding names".

    "Rosenbaum, killed amid Kenosha unrest, doesn’t come from practicing Jewish family"

    https://www.jewishchronicle.org/2020/08/27/rosenbaum-killed-amid-kenosha-unrest-doesnt-come-from-practicing-jewish-family/

    Joseph Rosenbaum doesn’t come from a practicing Jewish family, but that hasn’t stopped some hate-filled internet trolling from appearing online because of his last name.

    Rosenbaum, 36, of Kenosha, was one of two people shot and killed on Tuesday during unrest after the shooting of Jacob Blake. Suspect Kyle Rittenhouse, an Illinois 17-year–old, has been placed under arrest.

    Rosenbaum’s extended family is not Jewish, though there may be a mix of German and Jewish heritage in the past, said Sammy Rosenbaum, a cousin.

    She said she’d lost touch with her cousin but added that “it’s sad all around that he’s gone ….”

    The apparent lack of Jewish practice in the family hasn’t prevented hateful message boards from lighting up with some antisemitic statements about Joseph Rosenbaum. There are also parentheses around “Rosenbaum” in several instances, signifying a Jew.

    Yet some in the family have Christian–themed content posted to public Internet spaces.
     

    Replies: @jsm

    Note the careful insertion of the little footnote of “practicing” — meaning it’s almost certain this guy is of Jewish descent but doesn’t go to synagogue… I.e., your standard-issue atheist Jewish leftist White-America-hater.

  89. @Reg Cæsar
    @Hippopotamusdrome


    Names of the people killed in Kenosha by Rittenhouse:

    Joseph Rosenbaum

    Anthony Huber
     
    Herbert and J Edgar Hoover were scions of Huber immigrants. One was Quaker, one a fag, but neither was Jewish. Clean the guy up, with a haircut and a shave, and he would fit on an NSDAP poster.




    https://national-justice.com/sites/default/files/styles/w726xauto/public/2020/08/27/huber1.png

    https://imgc.allpostersimages.com/img/print/u-g-PG9Z8T0.jpg?w=550&h=550&p=0

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Rob McX

    I usually don’t like this sort of talk, but his nose shape is more semitic than teutonic.

  90. anon[293] • Disclaimer says:
    @Clifford Brown
    Something is likely up. Here are some antifa types in Minneapolis back in May. Love how on-brand the guy is with a Mercedes themed hoodie to match his car.

    https://twitter.com/jimmyknutson/status/1267095836565127170

    From a class perspective, antifa definitely includes many lumpen bourgeoisie. Grad student burnouts and ne'er-do-well children of the elite. Think of Mayor De Blasio's daughter or Tim Kaine's son who was arrested in the spring of 2017 in an antifa action in Minneapolis.

    https://fox59.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/21/2017/03/linwood-kaine.jpg

    Replies: @anon

    The nice Scandi guy talking to the trustafarians around the Mercedes should have stepped right up to the drivers’s side of the windshield and gotten a nice, clear pic of the VIN. Just for possible future references. Also the girl dressed in all black doesn’t need to get any courtesy, since she and her masked man look more like terrorists or burglars than anything else (Halloween is months away) so she needs to just back off 6 feet with her unmasked face while parking in front of someone’s house to engage in an illegal activity.

    Definitely the local should have gotten an image of the previous plate to go with the current one.

  91. The complaint that opening up mental hospitals created large homeless communities also applies (I suspect) to the large communities of rioting zealots. Some of the disunity recorded on cell phone videos between peaceful leftists and violent leftists seems to verify this.

  92. So is this a giant Soros-funded conspiracy? Or is it a bunch of Recreational Rioters who drive cross-country to get in on the latest riots?

    [whynotboth.jpg]

  93. @El Dato
    @Anonymous

    The "pedophile" rap is a bit dubious. Looks like he was 18 at the time, so he might just have been having fun with his 17 yo girlfriend and the parents didn't approve.

    Replies: @Unhinged Screed, @S. Anonyia

    He did 12 years. No jurisdiction in the country gives that kind of time for sex with your high school girlfriend.

  94. anon[368] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @gent

    Actually, they weren't. Actually, none of them. Grosskreutz means "Great Cross". There are zero Jews named Grosskreutz. Huber (often Anglicized as Hoover) is not a Jewish name either. Rosenbaum is usually Jewish but this one isn't.

    Wisconsin is rich in Germans with Germanic names. If you meet someone named Zimmerman in NY, chances are he's Jewish but a Zimmerman in Wisconsin is, dollars to donuts, of German descent.

    I think that for some WN types, seeing other white people in Antifa creates cognitive dissonance - what are my fellow white people doing, fighting for the other team? The easiest way to quell that confusion is to say, well, these folks may look white but they ain't - they are really Joos. That explains it. Now I may sleep restfully and not worry about traitors among my race. Now there are plenty of folks here who are prone to pinning anything bad or Leftist on the Joos anyway, but a shocking # of people have chimed in on this thread to falsely accuse the Jews based on (I assume) the fact that the guys whom Rittenhouse shot had Germanic names. Unfortunately, this just makes you sound stupid and ignorant. Now you probably ARE stupid and ignorant, but there's no point in publicly confirming it.

    Jews indeed have been active in many Leftist revolutionary movements. But not this one. Sorry boys, you ain't pinnin' Antifa on the Jews, as much as you'd like to. I'm not saying that there are zero Jews in Antifa. There must be some. But they are not especially plentiful. Getting dressed up in shit kicker boots and a gas mask and going out there to break windows and heads and set fires is just not the average Jewish guy's idea of a good time.

    Replies: @Johnny Smoggins, @anon, @Gordo, @Redman, @Giancarlo M. Kumquat

    Rosenbaum is usually Jewish but this one isn’t.

    Really? Prove it.

    Wisconsin is rich in Germans with Germanic names.

    But this Rosenbaum came from Texas originally.

    I think that for some WN types, seeing other white people in Antifa creates cognitive dissonance – what are my fellow white people doing, fighting for the other team?

    As opposed to what happens when Jews see other Jews committing crimes, right? Like, remember when you defended Jeffrey Epstein by saying, basically, that the girls wanted it?

    Jews indeed have been active in many Leftist revolutionary movements. But not this one.

    https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-attacks-on-antifa-are-attacks-on-jews-1.8902330

    But they are not especially plentiful. Getting dressed up in shit kicker boots and a gas mask and going out there to break windows and heads and set fires is just not the average Jewish guy’s idea of a good time.

    What about giving money to the people who go out and do that, Jack? How much money would you estimate the Jews have given to these rioters?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @anon


    How much money would you estimate the Jews have given to these rioters?
     
    I haven't seen any proof that any Jews (not even Soros who barely counts as Jewish) has given any money to the rioters. Do the rioters really need money? How much does a pair of boots and a can of gas cost?

    The main thing that rioters need is tacit support or tolerance from the government. 10 guys (cops or soldiers or vigilantes) with shotguns blasting anyone who so much as lights a match or smashes a pane of glass and the riot is OVAH and the remaining rioters run like hell. This has been the traditional way to end riots for hundreds of years. The only reason these riots go on and on is that the Leftist and/or wimpy mayors have not been willing to enforce the law. Arson is a serious crime - people can be trapped in burning buildings, firefighters can be injured or even killed. So the use of deadly force against arsonists is completely justifiable.

    Replies: @anon, @J.Ross, @S. Anonyia, @Harry Baldwin, @Hippopotamusdrome

  95. Anonymous[114] • Disclaimer says:
    @IHTG
    @Anonymous

    "Grosskreutz" isn't Jewish anywhere. Do you know what "Kreutz" means?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    “Grosskreutz” isn’t Jewish anywhere. Do you know what “Kreutz” means?

    “Kreutz” means “Cross”; “Grosskreutz” means “Big Cross”. So unlikely to be a Jewish name, although I don’t think it’s completely unheard of for a Jewish surname to be “Kreutz” or have “Kreutz” in it. For example, “Kreutzberger”:

    https://dbs.bh.org.il/familyname/kreutzberger

    The point is that people often tend to assume in the US that German sounding names are Jewish names.

  96. @Jack D
    @gent

    Actually, they weren't. Actually, none of them. Grosskreutz means "Great Cross". There are zero Jews named Grosskreutz. Huber (often Anglicized as Hoover) is not a Jewish name either. Rosenbaum is usually Jewish but this one isn't.

    Wisconsin is rich in Germans with Germanic names. If you meet someone named Zimmerman in NY, chances are he's Jewish but a Zimmerman in Wisconsin is, dollars to donuts, of German descent.

    I think that for some WN types, seeing other white people in Antifa creates cognitive dissonance - what are my fellow white people doing, fighting for the other team? The easiest way to quell that confusion is to say, well, these folks may look white but they ain't - they are really Joos. That explains it. Now I may sleep restfully and not worry about traitors among my race. Now there are plenty of folks here who are prone to pinning anything bad or Leftist on the Joos anyway, but a shocking # of people have chimed in on this thread to falsely accuse the Jews based on (I assume) the fact that the guys whom Rittenhouse shot had Germanic names. Unfortunately, this just makes you sound stupid and ignorant. Now you probably ARE stupid and ignorant, but there's no point in publicly confirming it.

    Jews indeed have been active in many Leftist revolutionary movements. But not this one. Sorry boys, you ain't pinnin' Antifa on the Jews, as much as you'd like to. I'm not saying that there are zero Jews in Antifa. There must be some. But they are not especially plentiful. Getting dressed up in shit kicker boots and a gas mask and going out there to break windows and heads and set fires is just not the average Jewish guy's idea of a good time.

    Replies: @Johnny Smoggins, @anon, @Gordo, @Redman, @Giancarlo M. Kumquat

    Rosenbaum is usually Jewish but this one isn’t.

    https://twitter.com/Aarick20/status/1298814752941125633/photo/1

    Not practisng you mean?

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    @Gordo


    https://twitter.com/Aarick20/status/1298814752941125633/photo/1

    Not practisng you mean?
     
    Your Jew-meter is broken. The guy in the picture is lacking the 5 o'clock shadow and really bushy eyebrows that characterize most Ashkenazi Jews. That schnozz is classic mainland Northern European. Like this guy's.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/Col_Charles_Lindbergh.jpg
  97. Does anyone know what “Say your words!” means when spoken by antifa? Is it code for something? Because I’ve heard it, or variations of it, on the videos from Portland.

    • Replies: @Bill P
    @sayless

    It's what people in the PAC. NW say to preschool kids when they are upset. So the antifa are taunting law enforcement officers by implying they are having tantrums.

    Replies: @sayless

  98. @El Dato
    @Anonymous

    The "pedophile" rap is a bit dubious. Looks like he was 18 at the time, so he might just have been having fun with his 17 yo girlfriend and the parents didn't approve.

    Replies: @Unhinged Screed, @S. Anonyia

    It was a pretty serious charge, implying it was with a 12-14 year old girl.

  99. Anonymous[165] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome
    @Anonymous

    doesn’t come from practicing Jewish family

     

    Why not just a simple no? Why the weaseling?

    Rosenbaum’s extended family is not Jewish, though there may be a mix of German and Jewish heritage in the past, said Sammy Rosenbaum, a cousin.

     

    I guess the fact checkers would say this is debunked 100% with that answer.

    Yet some in the family have Christian–themed content posted to public Internet spaces.

     

    Yet some of the family are Communists fighting in the streets.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Charlotte

    I guess the fact checkers would say this is debunked 100% with that answer.

    Most people don’t have intimate knowledge of their genealogies. If a bunch of people aggressively and confidently assert that their name indicates at least some Jewish heritage, they’re likely to believe it whether it’s true or not.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenbaum

    Rosenbaum is a surname of German origin, which translates as “rose tree” and which was given to people living in the proximity of rose bushes.[1] The surname is common among Ashkenazi Jews, but is also associated with various non-Jews of German origin.

  100. Not all punk rockers are leftist pukes. Long live the Dropkick Murphys! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcIRZxNH7xcEt1fu4pfqFRg

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Fidelios Automata

    "Long live the Dropkick Murphys!"

    Use as a prophylactic to ward off exhausted blacks.

  101. “Giant Conspiracy or Recreational Rioters?”

    Always go with the Giant Conspiracy. It’s more fun.

  102. @Fidelios Automata
    Not all punk rockers are leftist pukes. Long live the Dropkick Murphys! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcIRZxNH7xcEt1fu4pfqFRg

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “Long live the Dropkick Murphys!”

    Use as a prophylactic to ward off exhausted blacks.

  103. @sayless
    Does anyone know what "Say your words!" means when spoken by antifa? Is it code for something? Because I've heard it, or variations of it, on the videos from Portland.

    Replies: @Bill P

    It’s what people in the PAC. NW say to preschool kids when they are upset. So the antifa are taunting law enforcement officers by implying they are having tantrums.

    • Replies: @sayless
    @Bill P

    Thank you.

    Is it Indian, I wonder. It sounds a bit awkward, like a phrase that didn't really translate.

    Replies: @Bill P

  104. Now that the “riot kitchens” have been publicly outed, it won’t be good for them.

    These rigs and convoys will be easy to spot. Kitchens are notorious for accidental fires. Vehicles have tires which after long cross country trips can have bad road wear.

    Who knows what could happen?

    Also, has anyone every seen a photo of one of these supposed “kitchens” actually doling out vegan beans, etc. ? Did they find any foodstuff in these rigs? What about local health regs? Don’t commie cities make petty enforcement issues a big deal? We wouldn’t want rioters to get sick from the eggplant.

    It is a pretty good cover for long distance rioters, but I doubt they have the wit to make it appear realistic. Meth is an appetite suppressant, so I’ve heard.

  105. @anon
    @Jack D

    Rosenbaum is usually Jewish but this one isn’t.

    Really? Prove it.

    Wisconsin is rich in Germans with Germanic names.

    But this Rosenbaum came from Texas originally.

    I think that for some WN types, seeing other white people in Antifa creates cognitive dissonance – what are my fellow white people doing, fighting for the other team?

    As opposed to what happens when Jews see other Jews committing crimes, right? Like, remember when you defended Jeffrey Epstein by saying, basically, that the girls wanted it?

    Jews indeed have been active in many Leftist revolutionary movements. But not this one.

    https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-attacks-on-antifa-are-attacks-on-jews-1.8902330

    But they are not especially plentiful. Getting dressed up in shit kicker boots and a gas mask and going out there to break windows and heads and set fires is just not the average Jewish guy’s idea of a good time.

    What about giving money to the people who go out and do that, Jack? How much money would you estimate the Jews have given to these rioters?

    Replies: @Jack D

    How much money would you estimate the Jews have given to these rioters?

    I haven’t seen any proof that any Jews (not even Soros who barely counts as Jewish) has given any money to the rioters. Do the rioters really need money? How much does a pair of boots and a can of gas cost?

    The main thing that rioters need is tacit support or tolerance from the government. 10 guys (cops or soldiers or vigilantes) with shotguns blasting anyone who so much as lights a match or smashes a pane of glass and the riot is OVAH and the remaining rioters run like hell. This has been the traditional way to end riots for hundreds of years. The only reason these riots go on and on is that the Leftist and/or wimpy mayors have not been willing to enforce the law. Arson is a serious crime – people can be trapped in burning buildings, firefighters can be injured or even killed. So the use of deadly force against arsonists is completely justifiable.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Jack D

    I haven’t seen any proof that any Jews (not even Soros who barely counts as Jewish) has given any money to the rioters.

    Really? You haven't seen ANY Jews donating money to Black Lives Matter?

    Would that be because you haven't looked?

    Do the rioters really need money? How much does a pair of boots and a can of gas cost?

    They use it to bail themselves out of jail, mostly. What did you think they were doing with all those donations from Bank of America and Amazon and Google?

    The main thing that rioters need is tacit support or tolerance from the government.

    Yeah, I suppose that's true. Like the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frey. He's the one who really made this go out of control, when they saw that they could actually occupy a police station, and the city wouldn't do anything about it.

    You want to check the "Early Life" section of Jacob Frey's Wikipedia page?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Frey

    The only reason these riots go on and on is that the Leftist and/or wimpy mayors have not been willing to enforce the law.

    Again, this is totally true. I don't think we disagree on very much here, actually.

    But I'm still waiting for what makes you so sure that Rosenbaum isn't Jewish, though. You could be right that he's not, but I'm just saying. Not to many goyish Rosenbaums. Especially leftist ones with a taste for underage girls.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    There are several synagogies which have vocally and materially supported BLM, one to the extreme of saying that physical damage to a synagogue is less important than protesting for equity and social justice, but I'm not sure how Jewish the synagogues are. Seriously, the one has a chick rabbi, so it could be argued ...

    , @S. Anonyia
    @Jack D

    Jack, I actually agree with you that the ground-level rioters (and certainly these 3 injured/dead ones- those are all German surnames) are not Jewish. However, I disagree that the riots are completely organic and all the rioters need is “a can of gas.” I think it’s fairly obvious there is higher-level planning/organizing/money driving the prolonged unrest. Many of these rioters travel to multiple locations. They seem to be eating all right, and must be getting hotel rooms because I don’t see them sleeping on the ground when they travel. Some are trustafarians, yeah, but there aren’t enough of them to be the main players. The semi-professional rioters don’t appear to have jobs (aside from a few teachers and lawyers “teleworking” in Portland who joined the local fray), and seem to have easy access to private transportation. Don’t forget all of the “gear” they buy. It’s all more expensive than you think. So some deep-pocketed leftist organization(s) is providing for these people.The question is, who are they?

    Replies: @Lagertha

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Jack D

    This guy has $35,000,000 to spend on bailing rioters out.

    https://mnfreedomfund.org/greg-lewin

    https://www.fox9.com/news/minnesota-nonprofit-with-35m-bails-out-those-accused-of-violent-crimes?fbclid=IwAR3LUZz_8obX2BrNO4_qvjRFd3T4TZVEUDWOV9ufNQ2f3YCsfvMclpNwG88

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Hippopotamusdrome
    @Jack D



    I haven’t seen any proof that any Jews (not even Soros who barely counts as Jewish) has given any money to the rioters. Do the rioters really need money?

     

    Wow, just wow.
  106. It seems there is probably an organized traveling circus of core Antifa that go from city to city. But I get the impression that, in each city, they get there and promptly recruit young people from the local homeless/drug addict population and pay them each 50 bucks and some meth to go mess stuff up.

    I also get the sense that a lot of trannies live among the homeless because, well, most trannies are just crazy, and crazy people often end up homeless eventually without a very patient support system.

  107. @Reg Cæsar
    @Hippopotamusdrome


    Names of the people killed in Kenosha by Rittenhouse:

    Joseph Rosenbaum

    Anthony Huber
     
    Herbert and J Edgar Hoover were scions of Huber immigrants. One was Quaker, one a fag, but neither was Jewish. Clean the guy up, with a haircut and a shave, and he would fit on an NSDAP poster.




    https://national-justice.com/sites/default/files/styles/w726xauto/public/2020/08/27/huber1.png

    https://imgc.allpostersimages.com/img/print/u-g-PG9Z8T0.jpg?w=550&h=550&p=0

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Rob McX

    J Edgar was a fag? I think the evidence is inconclusive on that.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  108. – working or lower middle class by background.

    Wouldn’t working class people be at work instead of out rioting? I’d guess these people are mostly non stem college graduates who finished near the bottom of their class. Those are the most unproductive & frustrated people in our society.

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @anon
    @Kyle

    Wouldn’t working class people be at work instead of out rioting?

    Actual working class people usually can't do their job via Zoom. The COVID-19 shutdowns have put a lot of them out of work.

  109. anon[368] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @anon


    How much money would you estimate the Jews have given to these rioters?
     
    I haven't seen any proof that any Jews (not even Soros who barely counts as Jewish) has given any money to the rioters. Do the rioters really need money? How much does a pair of boots and a can of gas cost?

    The main thing that rioters need is tacit support or tolerance from the government. 10 guys (cops or soldiers or vigilantes) with shotguns blasting anyone who so much as lights a match or smashes a pane of glass and the riot is OVAH and the remaining rioters run like hell. This has been the traditional way to end riots for hundreds of years. The only reason these riots go on and on is that the Leftist and/or wimpy mayors have not been willing to enforce the law. Arson is a serious crime - people can be trapped in burning buildings, firefighters can be injured or even killed. So the use of deadly force against arsonists is completely justifiable.

    Replies: @anon, @J.Ross, @S. Anonyia, @Harry Baldwin, @Hippopotamusdrome

    I haven’t seen any proof that any Jews (not even Soros who barely counts as Jewish) has given any money to the rioters.

    Really? You haven’t seen ANY Jews donating money to Black Lives Matter?

    Would that be because you haven’t looked?

    Do the rioters really need money? How much does a pair of boots and a can of gas cost?

    They use it to bail themselves out of jail, mostly. What did you think they were doing with all those donations from Bank of America and Amazon and Google?

    The main thing that rioters need is tacit support or tolerance from the government.

    Yeah, I suppose that’s true. Like the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frey. He’s the one who really made this go out of control, when they saw that they could actually occupy a police station, and the city wouldn’t do anything about it.

    You want to check the “Early Life” section of Jacob Frey’s Wikipedia page?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Frey

    The only reason these riots go on and on is that the Leftist and/or wimpy mayors have not been willing to enforce the law.

    Again, this is totally true. I don’t think we disagree on very much here, actually.

    But I’m still waiting for what makes you so sure that Rosenbaum isn’t Jewish, though. You could be right that he’s not, but I’m just saying. Not to many goyish Rosenbaums. Especially leftist ones with a taste for underage girls.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @anon

    A lot of support comes from lawyers' guilds and associations. That's something Chad Wolf could attack. There's that one video of the Portland guy who has the lawyer association's phone number tattooed on his arm (he must never forget) for his one phone call in jail. Apparently this guild had promised to do free work for arrested protesters, especially springing them. In the same video he describes how the lawyers are teaching the attackers little loopholes, like street fighting being legal in Washington State so long as both parties verbally consent with witnesses beforehand. So you get two witnesses and get your story straight and then go punch a "Nazi." It's not a lefty organization either, it's not ACLU or something with political phrases in the name, it was just something like "the [place] lawyers' guild."
    Refocus this attention from "Jews" to "law school graduates:" we'll get more true positives and there will inevitably still be plenty of Jews in there.

  110. @Hippopotamusdrome
    @J.Ross



    Do you have a source for this? BLM has Jews in important, high level positions, but obviously its footsoldiers are black.

     

    LOL.

    Names of the people killed in Kenosha by Rittenhouse:

    Joseph Rosenbaum

    Anthony Huber

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Crank

    Huber doesn’t look jewish, and the name doesn’t sound it. But the (now) one-armed wonder smurf that survived Kyle’s righteous retribution has a jewish sounding name.

  111. @Gary in Gramercy
    RiotKitchen206 claims its members "were in Kenosha only to serve meals to people at the demonstrations."

    Of course. Every luncheonette worth its salt stocks plenty of "helmets, gas masks, protective vests, [and] illegal fireworks..."

    What, you never heard of Alice's Restaurant?

    Replies: @guest, @WGary

    An army travels on its stomach.

  112. @Jack D
    @gent

    Actually, they weren't. Actually, none of them. Grosskreutz means "Great Cross". There are zero Jews named Grosskreutz. Huber (often Anglicized as Hoover) is not a Jewish name either. Rosenbaum is usually Jewish but this one isn't.

    Wisconsin is rich in Germans with Germanic names. If you meet someone named Zimmerman in NY, chances are he's Jewish but a Zimmerman in Wisconsin is, dollars to donuts, of German descent.

    I think that for some WN types, seeing other white people in Antifa creates cognitive dissonance - what are my fellow white people doing, fighting for the other team? The easiest way to quell that confusion is to say, well, these folks may look white but they ain't - they are really Joos. That explains it. Now I may sleep restfully and not worry about traitors among my race. Now there are plenty of folks here who are prone to pinning anything bad or Leftist on the Joos anyway, but a shocking # of people have chimed in on this thread to falsely accuse the Jews based on (I assume) the fact that the guys whom Rittenhouse shot had Germanic names. Unfortunately, this just makes you sound stupid and ignorant. Now you probably ARE stupid and ignorant, but there's no point in publicly confirming it.

    Jews indeed have been active in many Leftist revolutionary movements. But not this one. Sorry boys, you ain't pinnin' Antifa on the Jews, as much as you'd like to. I'm not saying that there are zero Jews in Antifa. There must be some. But they are not especially plentiful. Getting dressed up in shit kicker boots and a gas mask and going out there to break windows and heads and set fires is just not the average Jewish guy's idea of a good time.

    Replies: @Johnny Smoggins, @anon, @Gordo, @Redman, @Giancarlo M. Kumquat

    Just asking. But aren’t a lot of Jews with German names also of at least somewhat German descent?

    I understand that there is this ethnic divide that seems so significant to many folks. But I took 23andme and discovered I was around 1 percent Ashkenazi. I have a very German last name (my father’s parents were born there and immigrated in the 1920s). Because of my name I have often been mistaken for being Jewish, and was invited to join the Jewish student’s organization in law school. In high school, I played in a Jewish basketball league as well at the behest of my friend Marc Schwartz.

    My vague understanding is that Ashkenazi Jews originated in the German Rhineland region in places like Mainz, Worms and Speyer. Ironically, the same small region that generated Protestantism. Could there not have been more “mixing” among Ashkenazim in those areas than we currently believe?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Redman

    I resent that this is still going on, and in the wrong direction.
    The whole issue here is neither ethnic Jewish racial purity nor Shul attendance (what are we, their mothers?). The issue is not the reliable subset of a faction of a minority of a minority of Jews given to political extremism and troublemaking. The issue is breaking this stupid pointless semantic hamsterdance which serves to protect criminals from justice. The way to do that is to call for the application of the law upon all equally and to call for normal police work, especially pattern noticing. Rather than Jewishness mattering, we want Jewishness to not matter -- when an agitator is under arrest. The incentive here is that this mob really is an inchoate ... mob, but led by a crucial, tiny group of brain bugs. Ie, the creeps changing their license plate. Those were not normal protesters. Those were brain bugs. Gotta squash 'em all. Merely recording them and calling the cops is useless because Soros bought the justice system. If the government were serious they would fight the violence by aggressively identifying and pursuing the brain bugs, whatever origin they might be, and by ignoring the outcry of media and organizations should that origin be more equal than others.

    , @Bill P
    @Redman

    Of course there's been a lot of mixing between Germans and Jews. If not, why would German Jews like Hannah Arendt and Sigmund Freud be proud of their German origin?

    Yiddish is a Franconian dialect, BTW.

    You have to keep in mind that Germans themselves are mixed ancestry. It isn't as though the Germanic warlords came into an empty country devoid of people before they ran up against the Roman frontier. There were lots of Celts and others in that territory, and Jews arrived shortly after the Germans.

    Jews were doing a lot of proselytizing back then. It was Christians who put an end to that. So the Ashkenazi founding population was derived in large part from the indigenous inhabitants. Subsequent endogamy made Ashkenazim More distinct from their neighbors over the centuries, but more in the way that Icelanders are distinct from Norwegians, i.e. they had common ancestors relatively recently. One observes the same phenomenon with the Amish.

    So Ashkenazi Jews are kind of like a Lombard with a Syrian grandfather. They are hardly a distinct race. Nor are Germans, to be clear. As an Anglo, German Jews seem foreign as much for their continental, central Euro culture as their Jewishness.

  113. @El Dato
    @guest

    Why would they swarm Rand Paul?

    https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1299217655816216576

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Harry Baldwin

    • Replies: @anon
    @MEH 0910

    Say her name? Sure, I'll say her name

    Jessica Doty Whitaker.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/indiana-woman-shot-killed-argument-black-lives-matter-supporters

    Is that enough? No? Ok, I'll say her name.

    Leslie Baker

    https://www.fox4news.com/news/16-year-old-arrested-for-preston-hollow-womans-murder

    Enough yet? No? More? Ok, I'll say her name.

    Angela Summer

    https://www.wrtv.com/news/working-for-you/indianapolis-family-pleads-for-tips-after-postal-workers-murder

    Shall I go on, with more names? We get new ones every week.

  114. Steve

    You’re forgetting the most important thing. They are PAID agitators drawn from the dregs of society. If we had a real media they would of already exposed it. Not all protesters but a good d bit and they are PAID because they are mentally imbalanced criminals likely to stir things up just like the 3 that got shot in Wisconsin.

  115. @Gordo
    @Jack D


    Rosenbaum is usually Jewish but this one isn’t.
     
    https://twitter.com/Aarick20/status/1298814752941125633/photo/1

    Not practisng you mean?

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

    https://twitter.com/Aarick20/status/1298814752941125633/photo/1

    Not practisng you mean?

    Your Jew-meter is broken. The guy in the picture is lacking the 5 o’clock shadow and really bushy eyebrows that characterize most Ashkenazi Jews. That schnozz is classic mainland Northern European. Like this guy’s.

    • Thanks: Giancarlo M. Kumquat
  116. anon[272] • Disclaimer says:
    @MEH 0910
    @El Dato

    https://twitter.com/CHSommers/status/1299349222085533697

    Replies: @anon

    Say her name? Sure, I’ll say her name

    Jessica Doty Whitaker.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/indiana-woman-shot-killed-argument-black-lives-matter-supporters

    Is that enough? No? Ok, I’ll say her name.

    Leslie Baker

    https://www.fox4news.com/news/16-year-old-arrested-for-preston-hollow-womans-murder

    Enough yet? No? More? Ok, I’ll say her name.

    Angela Summer

    https://www.wrtv.com/news/working-for-you/indianapolis-family-pleads-for-tips-after-postal-workers-murder

    Shall I go on, with more names? We get new ones every week.

  117. @Kyle

    - working or lower middle class by background.

     

    Wouldn’t working class people be at work instead of out rioting? I’d guess these people are mostly non stem college graduates who finished near the bottom of their class. Those are the most unproductive & frustrated people in our society.

    Replies: @anon

    Wouldn’t working class people be at work instead of out rioting?

    Actual working class people usually can’t do their job via Zoom. The COVID-19 shutdowns have put a lot of them out of work.

  118. @Hippopotamusdrome
    @Anonymous

    doesn’t come from practicing Jewish family

     

    Why not just a simple no? Why the weaseling?

    Rosenbaum’s extended family is not Jewish, though there may be a mix of German and Jewish heritage in the past, said Sammy Rosenbaum, a cousin.

     

    I guess the fact checkers would say this is debunked 100% with that answer.

    Yet some in the family have Christian–themed content posted to public Internet spaces.

     

    Yet some of the family are Communists fighting in the streets.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Charlotte

    I’d guess the reporter asked the cousin if they were Jewish, and she (or is it he?) said something like, “I dunno, I don’t think so, maybe way back.” There are lots of gentiles with “Jewish-sounding” German names in my Midwestern community-including me, and many people don’t know much about their history beyond their grandparents.

  119. @anon

    My impressions are that white Antifa rioters seem disproportionately to be:

    – pedophile
    – transgender
    – drug addict
    – general criminal
    – punk rocker
    – enjoy vandalism and violence
     
    When I find someone who really hates cops, it never surprises me to find out that he's a criminal. I mean, obviously, if you devote that much energy to hating the police, there's probably a pretty obvious reason for it. But when The Kenosha Kid finally did what he did, I was still taken aback by how he shot three people, and got one child molester and two violent criminals. I mean, I assumed there were at least a few of these people who were just people with misguided, but genuine convictions. But a 100% scumbag rate says something about these people. I just hope other people notice it too.

    Replies: @Kronos, @Bill Jones

    Mr Epigone might be sufficiently Audacious to calculate the odds of such a trifecta.
    I guess we’d need an approximate number of total peaceful rioters.

  120. “white Antifa rioters seem disproportionately to be:”

    Hey iSteve, I wonder what their student loan and other debt status is. Maybe what is going on is an equivalent of a slave revolt.

    • Replies: @anon
    @George

    Hey iSteve, I wonder what their student loan and other debt status is.

    Did you read about the three who got shot in Kenosha? I doubt they have any student loans at all.

    Even now in the Current Year most 18 - 20 year old people do not go to college.

    This is not Occupy Wall Street Part 2. In my opinion, this is a "color" revo being run by NGO's and some elements of the US Federal government, such as State.

  121. @Jack D
    @gent

    Actually, they weren't. Actually, none of them. Grosskreutz means "Great Cross". There are zero Jews named Grosskreutz. Huber (often Anglicized as Hoover) is not a Jewish name either. Rosenbaum is usually Jewish but this one isn't.

    Wisconsin is rich in Germans with Germanic names. If you meet someone named Zimmerman in NY, chances are he's Jewish but a Zimmerman in Wisconsin is, dollars to donuts, of German descent.

    I think that for some WN types, seeing other white people in Antifa creates cognitive dissonance - what are my fellow white people doing, fighting for the other team? The easiest way to quell that confusion is to say, well, these folks may look white but they ain't - they are really Joos. That explains it. Now I may sleep restfully and not worry about traitors among my race. Now there are plenty of folks here who are prone to pinning anything bad or Leftist on the Joos anyway, but a shocking # of people have chimed in on this thread to falsely accuse the Jews based on (I assume) the fact that the guys whom Rittenhouse shot had Germanic names. Unfortunately, this just makes you sound stupid and ignorant. Now you probably ARE stupid and ignorant, but there's no point in publicly confirming it.

    Jews indeed have been active in many Leftist revolutionary movements. But not this one. Sorry boys, you ain't pinnin' Antifa on the Jews, as much as you'd like to. I'm not saying that there are zero Jews in Antifa. There must be some. But they are not especially plentiful. Getting dressed up in shit kicker boots and a gas mask and going out there to break windows and heads and set fires is just not the average Jewish guy's idea of a good time.

    Replies: @Johnny Smoggins, @anon, @Gordo, @Redman, @Giancarlo M. Kumquat

    Well,you may be right,but I still say the guy who who showed up in blackface was doing a tribute to Al Jolson.

  122. @Redman
    @Jack D

    Just asking. But aren’t a lot of Jews with German names also of at least somewhat German descent?

    I understand that there is this ethnic divide that seems so significant to many folks. But I took 23andme and discovered I was around 1 percent Ashkenazi. I have a very German last name (my father’s parents were born there and immigrated in the 1920s). Because of my name I have often been mistaken for being Jewish, and was invited to join the Jewish student’s organization in law school. In high school, I played in a Jewish basketball league as well at the behest of my friend Marc Schwartz.

    My vague understanding is that Ashkenazi Jews originated in the German Rhineland region in places like Mainz, Worms and Speyer. Ironically, the same small region that generated Protestantism. Could there not have been more “mixing” among Ashkenazim in those areas than we currently believe?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Bill P

    I resent that this is still going on, and in the wrong direction.
    The whole issue here is neither ethnic Jewish racial purity nor Shul attendance (what are we, their mothers?). The issue is not the reliable subset of a faction of a minority of a minority of Jews given to political extremism and troublemaking. The issue is breaking this stupid pointless semantic hamsterdance which serves to protect criminals from justice. The way to do that is to call for the application of the law upon all equally and to call for normal police work, especially pattern noticing. Rather than Jewishness mattering, we want Jewishness to not matter — when an agitator is under arrest. The incentive here is that this mob really is an inchoate … mob, but led by a crucial, tiny group of brain bugs. Ie, the creeps changing their license plate. Those were not normal protesters. Those were brain bugs. Gotta squash ’em all. Merely recording them and calling the cops is useless because Soros bought the justice system. If the government were serious they would fight the violence by aggressively identifying and pursuing the brain bugs, whatever origin they might be, and by ignoring the outcry of media and organizations should that origin be more equal than others.

  123. @Jack D
    @anon


    How much money would you estimate the Jews have given to these rioters?
     
    I haven't seen any proof that any Jews (not even Soros who barely counts as Jewish) has given any money to the rioters. Do the rioters really need money? How much does a pair of boots and a can of gas cost?

    The main thing that rioters need is tacit support or tolerance from the government. 10 guys (cops or soldiers or vigilantes) with shotguns blasting anyone who so much as lights a match or smashes a pane of glass and the riot is OVAH and the remaining rioters run like hell. This has been the traditional way to end riots for hundreds of years. The only reason these riots go on and on is that the Leftist and/or wimpy mayors have not been willing to enforce the law. Arson is a serious crime - people can be trapped in burning buildings, firefighters can be injured or even killed. So the use of deadly force against arsonists is completely justifiable.

    Replies: @anon, @J.Ross, @S. Anonyia, @Harry Baldwin, @Hippopotamusdrome

    There are several synagogies which have vocally and materially supported BLM, one to the extreme of saying that physical damage to a synagogue is less important than protesting for equity and social justice, but I’m not sure how Jewish the synagogues are. Seriously, the one has a chick rabbi, so it could be argued …

  124. @Redman
    @Jack D

    Just asking. But aren’t a lot of Jews with German names also of at least somewhat German descent?

    I understand that there is this ethnic divide that seems so significant to many folks. But I took 23andme and discovered I was around 1 percent Ashkenazi. I have a very German last name (my father’s parents were born there and immigrated in the 1920s). Because of my name I have often been mistaken for being Jewish, and was invited to join the Jewish student’s organization in law school. In high school, I played in a Jewish basketball league as well at the behest of my friend Marc Schwartz.

    My vague understanding is that Ashkenazi Jews originated in the German Rhineland region in places like Mainz, Worms and Speyer. Ironically, the same small region that generated Protestantism. Could there not have been more “mixing” among Ashkenazim in those areas than we currently believe?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Bill P

    Of course there’s been a lot of mixing between Germans and Jews. If not, why would German Jews like Hannah Arendt and Sigmund Freud be proud of their German origin?

    Yiddish is a Franconian dialect, BTW.

    You have to keep in mind that Germans themselves are mixed ancestry. It isn’t as though the Germanic warlords came into an empty country devoid of people before they ran up against the Roman frontier. There were lots of Celts and others in that territory, and Jews arrived shortly after the Germans.

    Jews were doing a lot of proselytizing back then. It was Christians who put an end to that. So the Ashkenazi founding population was derived in large part from the indigenous inhabitants. Subsequent endogamy made Ashkenazim More distinct from their neighbors over the centuries, but more in the way that Icelanders are distinct from Norwegians, i.e. they had common ancestors relatively recently. One observes the same phenomenon with the Amish.

    So Ashkenazi Jews are kind of like a Lombard with a Syrian grandfather. They are hardly a distinct race. Nor are Germans, to be clear. As an Anglo, German Jews seem foreign as much for their continental, central Euro culture as their Jewishness.

  125. @anon
    @Jack D

    I haven’t seen any proof that any Jews (not even Soros who barely counts as Jewish) has given any money to the rioters.

    Really? You haven't seen ANY Jews donating money to Black Lives Matter?

    Would that be because you haven't looked?

    Do the rioters really need money? How much does a pair of boots and a can of gas cost?

    They use it to bail themselves out of jail, mostly. What did you think they were doing with all those donations from Bank of America and Amazon and Google?

    The main thing that rioters need is tacit support or tolerance from the government.

    Yeah, I suppose that's true. Like the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frey. He's the one who really made this go out of control, when they saw that they could actually occupy a police station, and the city wouldn't do anything about it.

    You want to check the "Early Life" section of Jacob Frey's Wikipedia page?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Frey

    The only reason these riots go on and on is that the Leftist and/or wimpy mayors have not been willing to enforce the law.

    Again, this is totally true. I don't think we disagree on very much here, actually.

    But I'm still waiting for what makes you so sure that Rosenbaum isn't Jewish, though. You could be right that he's not, but I'm just saying. Not to many goyish Rosenbaums. Especially leftist ones with a taste for underage girls.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    A lot of support comes from lawyers’ guilds and associations. That’s something Chad Wolf could attack. There’s that one video of the Portland guy who has the lawyer association’s phone number tattooed on his arm (he must never forget) for his one phone call in jail. Apparently this guild had promised to do free work for arrested protesters, especially springing them. In the same video he describes how the lawyers are teaching the attackers little loopholes, like street fighting being legal in Washington State so long as both parties verbally consent with witnesses beforehand. So you get two witnesses and get your story straight and then go punch a “Nazi.” It’s not a lefty organization either, it’s not ACLU or something with political phrases in the name, it was just something like “the [place] lawyers’ guild.”
    Refocus this attention from “Jews” to “law school graduates:” we’ll get more true positives and there will inevitably still be plenty of Jews in there.

  126. @JimB
    After three nights of hell on earth, order spontaneously returned to the streets of Kenosha on Thursday night with all BLM protesters off the streets by 10:30 pm and virtually no violence. People of Kenosha, thank Kyle Rittenhouse. All it took was a modest culling of the BLM herd to teach it some fear.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @V. Hickel, @Mr McKenna

    Reminds me of nothing so much as one Mr Bernhard Goetz, who administered a few corrections to a pack of assailants in the NYC subway system one evening back in the Bad Old Days. Subway crime throughout the entire MTA system plummeted almost instantly and remained suppressed for two full weeks. The MTA had never seen anything remotely like that. Herd is the word indeed–a herd mentality.

  127. @Anonymous
    @jon


    There are two reckless endangerment charges, however, for which he might go down. Those carry up to 12 yrs each, plus 5 more each because of the gun.
     
    If the police on the spot didn't stop or charge Rittenhouse during their numerous contacts with him that night, then in their judgement at the time he was not guilty of reckless endangerment. Makes it hard to claim later that he was.

    The crucial thing is Tucker Carlson's question concerning why a 17 year old boy from another State had to be the only one trying to protect private property. That, right there, is a question that could motivate quite a bit of action from the undecided population. There have been quite a few utterly unjust verdicts, and if the "up to 12 yrs each, plus 5 more each because of the gun" is imposed, this may be one too many.

    You see the look in that kids face in his Facebook picture? That's the look of every infantryman who ever signed up voluntarily, out of ideals. Lose that and we lose everything.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    You see the look in that kids face in his Facebook picture? That’s the look of every infantryman who ever signed up voluntarily, out of ideals. Lose that and we lose everything.

    That’s goddamn right.

    The most fearsome weapon on this Earth is, and will always be, a patriotic American carrying his battle rifle.

  128. @El Dato
    https://twitter.com/riotkitchen206/status/1298799200319074304

    Arrested in broad daylight! That's so fascist!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiiBrnPaOqs

    Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin

    If they didn’t know they were going to be participating in stirring chit up, why in the hell do they call themselves “Riot Kitchen.”

    Cops should impound their Scooby Van, and if drugs are found, sell it at auction.

  129. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Anonymous


    the 2 victims [sic] seemed to be Wisconsin Germanic types who were better looking than the shooter
     
    Physical appearance assessment:

    Guy on the left was a 5’3” manlet who never learned, guy on the right (in other pics) was a gangly cross between a billy goat and middle-age John Kerry.

    In comparison to the shooter it’s a draw, unlike the shootings.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Jiminy

    Maybe he is from a rural farming community, if he’s half billy goat. It’s a scary thought.

  130. @Anonymous
    Emmett Till alert

    https://twitter.com/tim_cook/status/1299190628736098304

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Reg Cæsar, @Kolya Krassotkin

    If they didn’t know they were going to be participating in stirring chit up, why in the hell do they call themselves “Riot Kitchen.”

    Cops should impound their Scooby Van, and if drugs are found, sell it at auction.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  131. My impressions are that white Antifa rioters seem disproportionately to be:

    “Jevvish” should probably be back on the menu, given Saint Kyle’s interlocutors. I mean they could turn out to not be 2/3s jevvish, as they appear at first blush, but…

  132. @Jack D
    @anon


    How much money would you estimate the Jews have given to these rioters?
     
    I haven't seen any proof that any Jews (not even Soros who barely counts as Jewish) has given any money to the rioters. Do the rioters really need money? How much does a pair of boots and a can of gas cost?

    The main thing that rioters need is tacit support or tolerance from the government. 10 guys (cops or soldiers or vigilantes) with shotguns blasting anyone who so much as lights a match or smashes a pane of glass and the riot is OVAH and the remaining rioters run like hell. This has been the traditional way to end riots for hundreds of years. The only reason these riots go on and on is that the Leftist and/or wimpy mayors have not been willing to enforce the law. Arson is a serious crime - people can be trapped in burning buildings, firefighters can be injured or even killed. So the use of deadly force against arsonists is completely justifiable.

    Replies: @anon, @J.Ross, @S. Anonyia, @Harry Baldwin, @Hippopotamusdrome

    Jack, I actually agree with you that the ground-level rioters (and certainly these 3 injured/dead ones- those are all German surnames) are not Jewish. However, I disagree that the riots are completely organic and all the rioters need is “a can of gas.” I think it’s fairly obvious there is higher-level planning/organizing/money driving the prolonged unrest. Many of these rioters travel to multiple locations. They seem to be eating all right, and must be getting hotel rooms because I don’t see them sleeping on the ground when they travel. Some are trustafarians, yeah, but there aren’t enough of them to be the main players. The semi-professional rioters don’t appear to have jobs (aside from a few teachers and lawyers “teleworking” in Portland who joined the local fray), and seem to have easy access to private transportation. Don’t forget all of the “gear” they buy. It’s all more expensive than you think. So some deep-pocketed leftist organization(s) is providing for these people.The question is, who are they?

    • Agree: sayless
    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @S. Anonyia

    Soros has paid millions to transport his Brown Shirts to cities. However, his old ass just got caught in a trap! hahhhahahaaaa

  133. @BB753
    @Dacian Julien Soros

    Steve Sailer, deep down, still lives in a utopian pre-1968 America which never even existed.
    The government can do no harm, checks and balances are in place, the FBI is squeaky clean and 90 % staffed with Mormons, the Cold War was really about Communism against Liberty , the US military is conservative, democracy and free-market are the solution, the Pope is still Catholic, we can all get along, etc.
    In a sense, I can understand him because it's hard to realize in your old age that everything you took for granted and believed in was a sham. But getting rid of old prejudices can help you cope better with the current ugly reality and understand it better. I hope Sailer 2.0 emerges in this decade with greater insights and renewed strength.

    Replies: @David Davenport

    the FBI is squeaky clean and 90 % staffed with Mormons

    BB.753 , your Democrat politicians are the ones backing the FBI plot against Trump.

    the Cold War was really about Communism against Liberty

    So tell us what what the Cold War wad about, BB.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @David Davenport

    "BB.753 , your Democrat politicians are the ones backing the FBI plot against Trump."

    You don't understand sarcasm, do you? Of course, the FBI has been rotten to the core since its very inception.

    "So tell us what what the Cold War wad about, BB."

    Geostrategy. Power balance. Business. Mostly dividing the spoils of wars between the two victors, America and the Soviet Union. Would you describe America today as the "free world"?

  134. @J.Ross
    Someone said that street disturbances in the Middle East will naturally disperse, except when street food is available. I can't verify or source that but it makes intuitive sense. How is this company allowed to exist, except through the interference of our renegade law talker caste? Can I publicly offer rope to rapists, storage lockers to burglars, or gasoline to arsonists?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Ben & Jerry’s brought in a truck to serve free ice cream to the occupiers at CHAZ. I know Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield are left-wing, but that’s really rubbing our noses in it.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Harry Baldwin

    Ben & Jerry haven't owned Ben & Jerry's for 20 years. They sold out to the giant worldwide conglomerate Unilever.

    I know that people's natural instinct is "follow the money" but honestly this whole thing is not money driven. Maybe there is some incidental flow of money from big corporations and liberal donors but the money is not what is driving it. If there was no free ice cream stand in CHAZ, there still would have been a CHAZ.

    There is no massive amount of money required. Whatever these folks make working at the hipster coffee shop or whatever is enough. These are not folks who care about money. They will sleep in tents or couch surf. They will drive a beat up old car or ride a bike. It's not like they have a wife and 2 kids and a mortgage to pay.

  135. @El Dato
    @guest

    Why would they swarm Rand Paul?

    https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1299217655816216576

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Harry Baldwin

    I thought black people loved Rand Paul, after he pandered to them.

    When Paul stopped in Detroit in December 2013 to help open a new Michigan Republican Party office in a northwest neighborhood, he advocated reaching out to black voters in a way the GOP has failed to do in the past. The candidate has a campaign message he believes will appeal to inner-city audiences.

    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/07/10/rand-paul-hits-urban-issues-democratic-stronghold/29991223/

  136. @Jack D
    @anon


    How much money would you estimate the Jews have given to these rioters?
     
    I haven't seen any proof that any Jews (not even Soros who barely counts as Jewish) has given any money to the rioters. Do the rioters really need money? How much does a pair of boots and a can of gas cost?

    The main thing that rioters need is tacit support or tolerance from the government. 10 guys (cops or soldiers or vigilantes) with shotguns blasting anyone who so much as lights a match or smashes a pane of glass and the riot is OVAH and the remaining rioters run like hell. This has been the traditional way to end riots for hundreds of years. The only reason these riots go on and on is that the Leftist and/or wimpy mayors have not been willing to enforce the law. Arson is a serious crime - people can be trapped in burning buildings, firefighters can be injured or even killed. So the use of deadly force against arsonists is completely justifiable.

    Replies: @anon, @J.Ross, @S. Anonyia, @Harry Baldwin, @Hippopotamusdrome

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Harry Baldwin

    https://postimg.cc/5HqCZfTR

  137. @S. Anonyia
    @Jack D

    Jack, I actually agree with you that the ground-level rioters (and certainly these 3 injured/dead ones- those are all German surnames) are not Jewish. However, I disagree that the riots are completely organic and all the rioters need is “a can of gas.” I think it’s fairly obvious there is higher-level planning/organizing/money driving the prolonged unrest. Many of these rioters travel to multiple locations. They seem to be eating all right, and must be getting hotel rooms because I don’t see them sleeping on the ground when they travel. Some are trustafarians, yeah, but there aren’t enough of them to be the main players. The semi-professional rioters don’t appear to have jobs (aside from a few teachers and lawyers “teleworking” in Portland who joined the local fray), and seem to have easy access to private transportation. Don’t forget all of the “gear” they buy. It’s all more expensive than you think. So some deep-pocketed leftist organization(s) is providing for these people.The question is, who are they?

    Replies: @Lagertha

    Soros has paid millions to transport his Brown Shirts to cities. However, his old ass just got caught in a trap! hahhhahahaaaa

  138. @Harry Baldwin
    @Jack D

    This guy has $35,000,000 to spend on bailing rioters out.

    https://mnfreedomfund.org/greg-lewin

    https://www.fox9.com/news/minnesota-nonprofit-with-35m-bails-out-those-accused-of-violent-crimes?fbclid=IwAR3LUZz_8obX2BrNO4_qvjRFd3T4TZVEUDWOV9ufNQ2f3YCsfvMclpNwG88

    Replies: @J.Ross

  139. @Bill P
    @sayless

    It's what people in the PAC. NW say to preschool kids when they are upset. So the antifa are taunting law enforcement officers by implying they are having tantrums.

    Replies: @sayless

    Thank you.

    Is it Indian, I wonder. It sounds a bit awkward, like a phrase that didn’t really translate.

    • Replies: @Bill P
    @sayless

    I don't think so. I always assumed it's just one of those simplistic phrases women use to talk to toddlers. But who knows? There are still some weird holdover phrases here from the 200 year old Chinook jargon we used to use to talk to Indians.

  140. @George
    "white Antifa rioters seem disproportionately to be:"

    Hey iSteve, I wonder what their student loan and other debt status is. Maybe what is going on is an equivalent of a slave revolt.

    Replies: @anon

    Hey iSteve, I wonder what their student loan and other debt status is.

    Did you read about the three who got shot in Kenosha? I doubt they have any student loans at all.

    Even now in the Current Year most 18 – 20 year old people do not go to college.

    This is not Occupy Wall Street Part 2. In my opinion, this is a “color” revo being run by NGO’s and some elements of the US Federal government, such as State.

  141. @Anonymous
    @Anon


    I’m still impressed by his cool-headedness under attack by three morons. He waited until they got their licks in, and even though he was on his back, he finished them all off with great economy of fire and good aim, one two three, and then he went calmly walked down towards the cops with his hands up. If the stupid Antifa crowd hadn’t messed with him, he could have gotten a career
     
    Keep in mind kids his age play "Call of Duty" and the like for sometimes eight hours a day. Repetition of tasks perfects the execution of the tasks, and reduces anxiety. He’s probably done the same thing virtually hundreds or thousands of times. It does make a difference.

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome

    But can also have disadvantages.
    Living with First-Person Shooter Disease

  142. @Jack D
    @anon


    How much money would you estimate the Jews have given to these rioters?
     
    I haven't seen any proof that any Jews (not even Soros who barely counts as Jewish) has given any money to the rioters. Do the rioters really need money? How much does a pair of boots and a can of gas cost?

    The main thing that rioters need is tacit support or tolerance from the government. 10 guys (cops or soldiers or vigilantes) with shotguns blasting anyone who so much as lights a match or smashes a pane of glass and the riot is OVAH and the remaining rioters run like hell. This has been the traditional way to end riots for hundreds of years. The only reason these riots go on and on is that the Leftist and/or wimpy mayors have not been willing to enforce the law. Arson is a serious crime - people can be trapped in burning buildings, firefighters can be injured or even killed. So the use of deadly force against arsonists is completely justifiable.

    Replies: @anon, @J.Ross, @S. Anonyia, @Harry Baldwin, @Hippopotamusdrome

    I haven’t seen any proof that any Jews (not even Soros who barely counts as Jewish) has given any money to the rioters. Do the rioters really need money?

    Wow, just wow.

  143. @David Davenport
    @BB753

    the FBI is squeaky clean and 90 % staffed with Mormons

    BB.753 , your Democrat politicians are the ones backing the FBI plot against Trump.

    the Cold War was really about Communism against Liberty

    So tell us what what the Cold War wad about, BB.

    Replies: @BB753

    “BB.753 , your Democrat politicians are the ones backing the FBI plot against Trump.”

    You don’t understand sarcasm, do you? Of course, the FBI has been rotten to the core since its very inception.

    “So tell us what what the Cold War wad about, BB.”

    Geostrategy. Power balance. Business. Mostly dividing the spoils of wars between the two victors, America and the Soviet Union. Would you describe America today as the “free world”?

  144. @Harry Baldwin
    @J.Ross

    Ben & Jerry's brought in a truck to serve free ice cream to the occupiers at CHAZ. I know Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield are left-wing, but that's really rubbing our noses in it.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Ben & Jerry haven’t owned Ben & Jerry’s for 20 years. They sold out to the giant worldwide conglomerate Unilever.

    I know that people’s natural instinct is “follow the money” but honestly this whole thing is not money driven. Maybe there is some incidental flow of money from big corporations and liberal donors but the money is not what is driving it. If there was no free ice cream stand in CHAZ, there still would have been a CHAZ.

    There is no massive amount of money required. Whatever these folks make working at the hipster coffee shop or whatever is enough. These are not folks who care about money. They will sleep in tents or couch surf. They will drive a beat up old car or ride a bike. It’s not like they have a wife and 2 kids and a mortgage to pay.

  145. @sayless
    @Bill P

    Thank you.

    Is it Indian, I wonder. It sounds a bit awkward, like a phrase that didn't really translate.

    Replies: @Bill P

    I don’t think so. I always assumed it’s just one of those simplistic phrases women use to talk to toddlers. But who knows? There are still some weird holdover phrases here from the 200 year old Chinook jargon we used to use to talk to Indians.

  146. @Anonymous

    – physically unattractive
     
    I think this is generally true, and exacerbated by them deliberately cultivating an unattractive look in dress, demeanor, health, etc.

    But in the case of the Kenosha shooting, the 2 victims seemed to be Wisconsin Germanic types who were better looking than the shooter, who despite his name has been reported by some as being Hispanic and has a very broad nose and is generally less attractive.

    https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/LOSElzNtGQn4za0jNpj86wDbSKw=/415x217/top/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/tronc/ZH7357X4YRCYHETVOZTMWJFOCI.jpg

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @jon, @Thoughts, @gent, @JimB

    Rittenhouse is an old American name. There was an 18th century American astronomer named David Rittenhouse, who is credited with proposing the white stars on blue background part of the US flag. Kyle Rittenhouse looks very American, actually. But you’d only know that if you grew up in a New England yankee enclave.

  147. fuck you all..such limp dicks. At least buy the medication that keeps the magic.

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