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This week, after 2.5 years in office, the Trump Administration finally got its ducks in a row enough to issue an update to the 1999 temporary guidelines on how to enforce the 1996 law directing the executive branch to work hard to keep out legal immigrants who are likely wind up as a “public charge.” As I pointed out in my Taki’s Magazine column, this is a completely sensible bureaucratic policy, like the Harvard admissions office having policies to cut down on the percentage of applicants admitted who go on to flunk out or the Golden State Warriors having rules of thumb to avoid wasting draft picks on college basketball player who won’t be able to guard anybody in the NBA.

The obvious question is: why did it take the Trump Administration 30 months rather than 6 months to come up with it? And the obvious answer is that immigration restrictionism as a reform movement has a very thin bench of policy intellectuals. One reason is the incredible campaigns of odium directed toward the handful of patriotic Americans who take an activist role, such as the endless hate campaign directed by Morris Dees of the SPLC against the late small town eye doctor John Tanton.

Similarly, because of all the hate, so few rich people donate to immigration limitation causes. For example, the New York Times just ran a giant article denouncing a dead heiress who donated generously to environmentalist and restrictionist causes.

In contrast, zillionaires openly promoting more immigration like Zuckerberg, Gates, Bloomberg, the Koches, Adelson, the Widow Jobs etc etc etc are a dime a dozen (to mix metaphors).

Now the NYT has an endless article about the horribleness of one of the very few White House officials to work hard for enforcing our laws on immigration:

How Stephen Miller Rode an Anti-Immigration Wave to the White House

By Jason DeParle, Aug. 17, 2019

Behind Mr. Miller’s singular grip on the Trump anti-immigrant agenda are forces far bigger than his own hostility toward the foreign-born.

I.e., Miller is linked to the SPLC’s conspiracy theory of a vast, shadowy sinister conspiracy led by the late John Tanton, who was in ill health for most of this century, to enforce the laws.

The funny thing is, there are basically no facts in this article that make Miller look bad to an objective observer, there is just endless slanted verbiage. I wonder how many readers get part way through and have a gestalt: Wait a minute, this article is just a hate screed against an American hero-citizen!

Probably … very, very few.

In contrast, here’s a significantly more informative new article on Miller from the Washington Post.

THE ADVISER WHO SCRIPTS TRUMP’S IMMIGRATION POLICY

With unswerving loyalty, Stephen Miller has singular control of an issue central to the presidency

By Nick Miroff and Josh Dawsey Aug. 17, 2019

… Miller often launches into pedantic arguments with others in the White House, citing lengthy, arcane statistics that he mentally stores like munitions. He reads “every economic analysis, every think tank paper, every Wall Street Journal editorial on immigration,” said another colleague.

Obsessed with terminology, Miller tells others in the West Wing that how issues are talked about — and what terms the media and legislators use — is often as important or more important than anything else.

 
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  1. And yet you link to them. Instead of dropping their crap into archive.org and preventing them from getting viewers.

    You’re part of the problem, Steve. You’re helping them. They want you tortured, run out of town, and murdered, and you’re giving them clicks. They already fired you from NR and forced you into begging for donations. And they won’t stop until you’re literally obliterated.

    Have you not seen Antifa assaulting anyone deemed not-commie, calling them Nazis? What do you think you are to them? And what do you think the NY Times is making its readers call you, by insinuation, association, and outright op-ed calumny?

    Wisen up. This is war. Act like it.

    • Agree: BB753, Kylie, Jack Hanson
    • Disagree: Kronos
    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    You’re part of the problem, Steve. You’re helping them. They want you tortured, run out of town, and murdered, and you’re giving them clicks. They already fired you from NR and forced you into begging for donations. And they won’t stop until you’re literally obliterated.

    Have you not seen Antifa assaulting anyone deemed not-commie, calling them Nazis? What do you think you are to them? And what do you think the NY Times is making its readers call you, by insinuation, association, and outright op-ed calumny?

    Wisen up. This is war. Act like it.
     

    Steve is acting like it's war.

    Part of war is figuring out what your opponent is up to, what's their strategy, what tactics they use. Basically finding out what you're up against and figuring out how to respond.

    Most of the war--at this point--is the minoritarian propaganda against white gentiles and anyone standing for existence of the West and Western nations, including the odd righteous Jew like Miller. Along with balkanizing the nation, the West, with a flood of foreigners.

    Steve digs into this propaganda, analyzes the lies, the incoherence, the underlying "logic" of the attack on whites\gentiles\men\borders\nations\the West... because that's what he's good at. It's called "intelligence".

    If you're telling Steve to stop paying attention to the NYT, but grab his sniper rifle and head over the mountains to Beverly Hills ... you are actually helping the enemy, because that would be grotesque waste of Steve's talents. (Now for some folks around here ....)

    , @onetwothree
    Actually, people going to the website and leaving it from that same article trigger a "bounce" which companies are obsessed with avoiding. The amount of revenue they would get from visitors here is probably negative.
    , @Bubba
    What?!?! Thank God for Steve! It's where I get my news from nearly everyday! Steve's a wizened old veteran of this war and has been on the front line for decades. In fact, Steve has been predicting this while people like you were voting for McCain and Romney.

    You're worried about clicks to an article??? LOL! The NYT's limits how many articles non-payers can read - plus "clicks" are complete BS since those can be easily manipulated as shown by many intelligent, 13 year old (or slightly older teenaged) white boys.

    Steve is doing a great humanitarian service by letting us out-of-the-loop, working stiffs know what the scheming glitterati are up to these days.

    He is an excellent blogger and I enjoy sending money to him every quarter. It sounds like he makes a decent living doing it and he's a brilliant writer.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Your advice makes good sense for the rest of us. However, Steve is getting the stupidity of the NY Times out in front, at least for me, Mr. Camara. From this post:

    I wonder how many readers get part way through and have a gestalt: Wait a minute, this article is just a hate screed against an American hero-citizen!
     
    I wonder how many readers this newspaper would have had if they weren't a (albeit poorly paid by old East Bloc standards) propaganda organization. I'll admit, I wouldn't be reading it even if it were truth-telling in the public interest, as I don't have the time to sit down with that 3/4" thick (even on weekdays) newspaper and use up 2 hours of my day. Screw that - I can do that on the internet ... wait ...
    , @Kronos
    This isn’t the time to implement a Stimson themed “gentlemen don't read other gentlemen's mail” strategy. You always spy on the enemy and intercept their plans (especially when they’re against yourself.) please keep in mind most of those clicks are trivial. I’m sure many NYT clicks nowadays are mainly fueled by bots originating in China.

    https://media.techeblog.com/images/chinese-click-farm.jpg

    But to understand their plans and devise an effective response we need inoculation. Imagine how less effective the 1960s crazy crap would’ve been if the majority of the populace were ready for it. That the Great Society and the Warren Court were going to implement truly disastrous policies. It would’ve severely declined the scope of their operations.

    https://advancelocal-adapter-image-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/image.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width2048/img/mlive_statewide_river_candidates/photo/how-vaccines-workjpg-4124fe097a13d163.jpg
    , @Jim Christian

    And yet you link to them. Instead of dropping their crap into archive.org and preventing them from getting viewers.
     
    And how are viewers to know what the dark side is if they don't read them? I listen to and read all media, myself. NBC, CNN, the WashPost, NYTimes, all the greats. If you don't read em, how do you know what you're up against? FoxNews? Hardly a paragon of virtue themselves and besides, they've turned the entire network over to feminist women and homosexuals, so they're lost to us now. You have to read their stuff, their papers, their editorials and see who backs them. Without all that, you're no different than Liberal Feminist Democrats who don't read shit, they just operate on their Left-Feels. To me, that's less objectionable than righties who sit on Foxnews all day and read nothing from the other sides, they're the same sort of parrots, only other-side-of-political coin. I expect the Leftist Feminists to be morons, they never disappoint. That you even get to the driveway of Conservative thought makes you 20 IQ points higher than a typical Feminist Democrat. Now put that 20 points to good use so you'll know where and how big are the holes to poke in their narratives on everything from the environment to immigration when your Feminist Democrat relative opens her big fat trap at Thanksgiving dinner. It's pretty easy, their heads are filled with Maddow and other lesbian misfits preaching the theology of enstupidation. I think Steve invented that word. Or Goad, but I digress.

    And be glad Sailer and the rest dissect this stuff for you because it doesn't sound like you want to do it on your own.
    , @R.G. Camara
    Since everyone here can't read properly, let me me spell it out for you all:

    And yet you link to them. Instead of dropping their crap into archive.org and preventing them from getting viewers.
     
    In other words, I'm not criticizing Steve for reading the NY Times. I'm criticizing him for linking to them directly instead of through archive.org. If he did the latter, the NY Times would lose clicks, and some of us wouldn't get sucked in to reading the other articles on the NY Times website.

    They want you guys dead, and you guys can't even be bothered to read properly. Pathetic.
  2. Are there any good books of the “immigration wars?” Ones with the approval of John Derbyshire and Steve Sailer?

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    Steve Sailer's dense & insightful Obama-book "America's Half-Blood Prince - Barrack Obama''s Story of Race and Inheritance"i s about immigration too.

    Murray/Herrnstein The Bell Curve

    Heiner Rindermann Cognitive Capitalism - Human Capital and the Wellbeing of Nations

    This is a good speech about the topic (it has one flaw: Putnam is overoptimistic what the future is concerned - beware what Keynes once said about "the long run" - we'll be all dead by then - - but except for that: Very interesting. Jonathan Haidt refers to this speech at times when talking about the social erosion caused by immigration).
    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-9477.2007.00176.x

    Paul Collier, EXODUS

    David Murray The Strange Death of Europe

    Great but - just like the Bell Curve - not translated (cf. Steve Sailer's remark in the post above, how few intellectuals actually care about Immigration and it's Discontends

    Thilo Sarrazin - Deutschland schafft sich ab


    These are two Steve Sailer might not know of:

    Rolf Peter Sieferle - Das Migrationsproblem (immigration seen from an economical-historical standpoint - weak on IQ) but that does not matter much in his context, because otherwise, he is spot on).

    Hans Magnus Enzensberger - Versuche über den Unfrieden - Vier Essays - parts of these brilliant pieces are translated.

    The subjects: a) A new kind of civil wars in co-evolution with Globalisation and Diversity - Enzensberger calls them "the molecular civil wars"; b) Migration in our globalized times; c) The Horrible Men - A look at the radical losers (such as Muslim terrorists); d) Something strange - The Guangxi-Rebellion in 19th century China. - A mostly overlooked (!) disastrous God-State rebellion lead by King Hong, which caused some 20 million deaths. Could well have been the most terrible of all civil wars in history, but, as I wrote above: Enzensberger points out, that - it is is hardly being noticed.

    , @GermanReader2
    "alien nation" by Peter Brimelow
  3. If anyone should understand the folly of non-selective immigration, it’s Jason DeParle, who wrote this classic article about 2nd generation Salvadoran immigrants assimilating into black underclass culture: https://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/19/us/19immig.html

  4. @R.G. Camara
    And yet you link to them. Instead of dropping their crap into archive.org and preventing them from getting viewers.

    You're part of the problem, Steve. You're helping them. They want you tortured, run out of town, and murdered, and you're giving them clicks. They already fired you from NR and forced you into begging for donations. And they won't stop until you're literally obliterated.

    Have you not seen Antifa assaulting anyone deemed not-commie, calling them Nazis? What do you think you are to them? And what do you think the NY Times is making its readers call you, by insinuation, association, and outright op-ed calumny?

    Wisen up. This is war. Act like it.

    You’re part of the problem, Steve. You’re helping them. They want you tortured, run out of town, and murdered, and you’re giving them clicks. They already fired you from NR and forced you into begging for donations. And they won’t stop until you’re literally obliterated.

    Have you not seen Antifa assaulting anyone deemed not-commie, calling them Nazis? What do you think you are to them? And what do you think the NY Times is making its readers call you, by insinuation, association, and outright op-ed calumny?

    Wisen up. This is war. Act like it.

    Steve is acting like it’s war.

    Part of war is figuring out what your opponent is up to, what’s their strategy, what tactics they use. Basically finding out what you’re up against and figuring out how to respond.

    Most of the war–at this point–is the minoritarian propaganda against white gentiles and anyone standing for existence of the West and Western nations, including the odd righteous Jew like Miller. Along with balkanizing the nation, the West, with a flood of foreigners.

    Steve digs into this propaganda, analyzes the lies, the incoherence, the underlying “logic” of the attack on whites\gentiles\men\borders\nations\the West… because that’s what he’s good at. It’s called “intelligence”.

    If you’re telling Steve to stop paying attention to the NYT, but grab his sniper rifle and head over the mountains to Beverly Hills … you are actually helping the enemy, because that would be grotesque waste of Steve’s talents. (Now for some folks around here ….)

    • Agree: Dtbb, Bubba, MEH 0910, Richard S
    • Replies: @newrouter
    Steve Sailer - Rodeo Dr. Rifleman has elan no?
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Haha, A.D. (on the last part)! I appreciate Mr. Camara's enthusiasm, but I've said the following already a few times, and I'll say it again:

    Steve Sailer reads the NY Times so WE DON'T HAVE TO.

    Someone's got to do the Dirty Work, and I'd be a fool to:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrE_cDvcgJg
    , @The Alarmist
    The war is lost. They'ved moved on to mopping up pockets of resistance.
  5. Six months, iSteve? Really? Since our republic’s been a historical footnote since before our births, how about an executive order one hour after Trump’s swearing-in? His campaign speeches implied he’d already “studied” the issue sufficiently. The executive branch has been a combination figurehead and dictatorship for a long time. Just issue an edict, which would just happen to comport with a president’s oath of office to protect the country from invasion. For all of The Donald’s bluster, he’s a swamp bro.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    For all of The Donald’s bluster, he’s a swamp bro.

    You understand that we're never going to have anyone better, right?
    , @Michelle
    Trump is Bernice in "Bernice Bobs Her Hair". If he ever does "Bob his hair/Build a wall", it will be disappointing and anticlimactic. The barbarian hordes will continue to storm our gates, overwhelm and destroy our culture and (previous) beautiful way of life.
    We are doomed, doomed, doomed, and there ain't a dang thing that we can do about it.
    , @International Jew
    Yes, and if he wins a second term I suspect he'll swing to the left and govern like a Joe Biden.
  6. this is a completely sensible bureaucratic policy, like the Harvard admissions office having policies to cut down on the percentage of applicants admitted who go on to flunk out

    Basically makes it impossible for people to immigrate if they have dependents who are disabled or handicapped, or have epilepsy, or diabetes, or need a wheelchair, or need Medicaid.

    There was some talk at one time of disqualifying immigrants who use Obamacare, because it is subsidized by the govt., even though it is mandatory everyone to have health insurance, except for illegal immigrants. Our laws are a real mess.

    Actually it would not be a bad idea if they were forbidden to walk on sidewalks or cross bridges paid for with taxpayer money, even if they are paying taxes themselves., unless they can prove an overwhelming need.

    The ideal is that all the immigrants give up before they get to the US, or just go away, and that the US becomes a net exporter of people.

    Perhaps we could offer subsidies to foreign born people to leave the US and go back from whence they came, especially countries like Israel that seem to have many dual citizens here.

    Perhaps we could offer subsidies to Americans to emigrate to inefficient countries and teach them how to live properly, so that they would not be exporting their population.

    • Replies: @Bubba

    Perhaps we could offer subsidies to Americans to emigrate to inefficient countries and teach them how to live properly, so that they would not be exporting their population.
     
    Yes, now that would be a practical solution to the insanity we have now as long as they renounced American citizenship while receiving the subsidy. One way to improve it would be ending dual-citizenship immediately, but the elites would prevent that with loads of PAC bribe money directly funneled to their DC slaves, oh wait, Congressmen and Congresswomen.
    , @Anonymous

    Perhaps we could offer subsidies to Americans to emigrate to inefficient countries and teach them how to live properly, so that they would not be exporting their population.
     
    e.g, the white man's burden.

    We don't owe anyone anything except to leave them alone if they are not threatening or obstructing us. There is no history of success in making congoids, or any other aboriginals, act like Europeans or even Orientals or Middle Easterners. Short of massive eugenic programs combined with brutal, heavy handedly enforced concepts of white jurisprudence nothing is going to even be moderately effective. It means changing people against their will and against their nature.

    Close our borders, and leave the other nations alone. Don't interfere with their development. Let nature do its job, and control the burgeoning populations caused by white meddling in an estblished ecosystem. It's a lot less cruel and brutal for all concerned in the long run.
    , @Anonymous
    Far more often its elderly parents etc. immediately dumped on emergency rooms and or medicare for medical care services, often able to coerce out social security benefits etc.

    Far more common than being permitted to import diseas and conflict, though on the border anything is possible.

    Family chain migration means you drag your parents without a word of english or funds and simply dump them on US roads, hospitals, environment etc.

    # mass immmigration
    , @GermanReader2
    It' a standard policy for countries like Canada and Australia to not give permanent residence permits for people who have dependantdisabled children (for instance Down Syndrome). Even university professors are not exempt from this.
  7. “forces far bigger than his own hostility toward the foreign-born”

    You mean other people’s hostility? Or is it like Free Masonry or something?

    By the way, it’s not the foreign-born as such. It’s the foreign-born we don’t want here.

  8. @AnotherDad

    You’re part of the problem, Steve. You’re helping them. They want you tortured, run out of town, and murdered, and you’re giving them clicks. They already fired you from NR and forced you into begging for donations. And they won’t stop until you’re literally obliterated.

    Have you not seen Antifa assaulting anyone deemed not-commie, calling them Nazis? What do you think you are to them? And what do you think the NY Times is making its readers call you, by insinuation, association, and outright op-ed calumny?

    Wisen up. This is war. Act like it.
     

    Steve is acting like it's war.

    Part of war is figuring out what your opponent is up to, what's their strategy, what tactics they use. Basically finding out what you're up against and figuring out how to respond.

    Most of the war--at this point--is the minoritarian propaganda against white gentiles and anyone standing for existence of the West and Western nations, including the odd righteous Jew like Miller. Along with balkanizing the nation, the West, with a flood of foreigners.

    Steve digs into this propaganda, analyzes the lies, the incoherence, the underlying "logic" of the attack on whites\gentiles\men\borders\nations\the West... because that's what he's good at. It's called "intelligence".

    If you're telling Steve to stop paying attention to the NYT, but grab his sniper rifle and head over the mountains to Beverly Hills ... you are actually helping the enemy, because that would be grotesque waste of Steve's talents. (Now for some folks around here ....)

    Steve Sailer – Rodeo Dr. Rifleman has elan no?

  9. @R.G. Camara
    And yet you link to them. Instead of dropping their crap into archive.org and preventing them from getting viewers.

    You're part of the problem, Steve. You're helping them. They want you tortured, run out of town, and murdered, and you're giving them clicks. They already fired you from NR and forced you into begging for donations. And they won't stop until you're literally obliterated.

    Have you not seen Antifa assaulting anyone deemed not-commie, calling them Nazis? What do you think you are to them? And what do you think the NY Times is making its readers call you, by insinuation, association, and outright op-ed calumny?

    Wisen up. This is war. Act like it.

    Actually, people going to the website and leaving it from that same article trigger a “bounce” which companies are obsessed with avoiding. The amount of revenue they would get from visitors here is probably negative.

  10. Unlike the border disputes, this so-called public charge rule affects only legal immigrants, since the unauthorized are already barred from most safety-net programs.

    First, I guess this does away with the notion that immigrants don’t use welfare. It also shows they realize this proposal has the potential to slow down the immivasion. You will note the squealing is loudest when the proposed policy actually has teeth. That is why there is such opposition to an effective border barrier, and to the enforcement of the rule that immigrants won’t be government charges.

    Second, he writes, “since the unauthorized are already barred from most safety-net programs.” Can this be rewritten to state that the unauthorized do tap into the social safety net? I thought this was not supposed to happen. But evidently they are admitting that not only do legal immigrants take from the government dole, but illegals do too.

    Let’s hope this isn’t another Trump initiative to appease the base and then in a couple of weeks he drops it. I can see him tweeting out that he’ll give Nancy and Chuck two weeks to come up with something before he enacts this. Sort of like how he did with deportations, or tariffs with China. And I almost forgot about the executive order against birthright citizenship. You remember that, right?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    But evidently they are admitting that not only do legal immigrants take from the government dole, but illegals do too.
     
    But what about the illegal immigrants who are paying Social Security and Medicare payroll tax deductions, but not benefiting from those programs? Doesn't this help to balance it out?

    All this stuff is stupid. Trump should declare that the next general election be in effect a referendum on immigration and that if he wins legislation will be introduced to effectively close the US to any further immigration other than spouses, fiance(e)s and close relatives (children and parents) of US citizens.

    Strict quotas will also be set for refugees. Surplus refugees who arrive, but cannot be accommodated will be placed in spartan tented refugee camps on offshore islands like Puerto Rico, Nantucket, Navassa Island, Whidbey Island, and the Aleutians, where they will receive a daily meal of chicken, beans, and rice, and be placed on a waiting list or traded with other countries in need of refugees to meet quotas.

    The fact that Donald Trump recently showed an interest in purchasing Greenland for the US is a clear indication that he has something similar in mind.

    Once it becomes clear to refugees that the United States is hell on earth, a fact already known to many tourists, they will stop wanting to come anyway and will seek lebensraum in the open spaces of Argentina, Brazil, and the Arabian peninsula.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_immigration_detention_facilities

  11. Here we are witnessing one of the opening salvos of the NYT’s 1619 Project.

    Miller is truly an American hero-citizen. Unfortunately almost all of his coreligionists do not share his values and are actually antithetical to them. Until such time as their opposition either changes or neutralized, it will be very hard to stop unfettered immigration. Of course care must be taken that another neoconservative Golem is unleashed! Nevertheless, I believe that Miller’s motivation is for this nation’s interests as opposed to parochial self-interests.

    Botttom line: let the Golem churn out many, many Millers, pronto!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Here we are witnessing one of the opening salvos of the NYT’s 1619 Project.
     
    In 1619 we took a little trip
    down the Guinea coastline in a middle passage ship
    We took a little sterling and we took a little cheese
    and we bought the bloody Africans from 'Rabs and Portogees...
    , @MEH 0910

    Here we are witnessing one of the opening salvos of the NYT’s 1619 Project.
     
    I believe it's part of a separate NYT series called The New Nativists.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_1619_Project
  12. the Koches

    Er, no. Ed’s would be Koches. Chuck and Dave’s would be Kochs. Or, in the original German, Köche.

    As in, Zu viele Köche verderben den Brei

    Gestalt = Get salt.

  13. @R.G. Camara
    And yet you link to them. Instead of dropping their crap into archive.org and preventing them from getting viewers.

    You're part of the problem, Steve. You're helping them. They want you tortured, run out of town, and murdered, and you're giving them clicks. They already fired you from NR and forced you into begging for donations. And they won't stop until you're literally obliterated.

    Have you not seen Antifa assaulting anyone deemed not-commie, calling them Nazis? What do you think you are to them? And what do you think the NY Times is making its readers call you, by insinuation, association, and outright op-ed calumny?

    Wisen up. This is war. Act like it.

    What?!?! Thank God for Steve! It’s where I get my news from nearly everyday! Steve’s a wizened old veteran of this war and has been on the front line for decades. In fact, Steve has been predicting this while people like you were voting for McCain and Romney.

    You’re worried about clicks to an article??? LOL! The NYT’s limits how many articles non-payers can read – plus “clicks” are complete BS since those can be easily manipulated as shown by many intelligent, 13 year old (or slightly older teenaged) white boys.

    Steve is doing a great humanitarian service by letting us out-of-the-loop, working stiffs know what the scheming glitterati are up to these days.

    He is an excellent blogger and I enjoy sending money to him every quarter. It sounds like he makes a decent living doing it and he’s a brilliant writer.

    • Replies: @Alden
    I’ve followed Steve for about 23,24 years, since he got on the internet. In fact I followed Steve to UNZ for which I thank him.
  14. @Jonathan Mason

    this is a completely sensible bureaucratic policy, like the Harvard admissions office having policies to cut down on the percentage of applicants admitted who go on to flunk out
     
    Basically makes it impossible for people to immigrate if they have dependents who are disabled or handicapped, or have epilepsy, or diabetes, or need a wheelchair, or need Medicaid.

    There was some talk at one time of disqualifying immigrants who use Obamacare, because it is subsidized by the govt., even though it is mandatory everyone to have health insurance, except for illegal immigrants. Our laws are a real mess.

    Actually it would not be a bad idea if they were forbidden to walk on sidewalks or cross bridges paid for with taxpayer money, even if they are paying taxes themselves., unless they can prove an overwhelming need.

    The ideal is that all the immigrants give up before they get to the US, or just go away, and that the US becomes a net exporter of people.

    Perhaps we could offer subsidies to foreign born people to leave the US and go back from whence they came, especially countries like Israel that seem to have many dual citizens here.

    Perhaps we could offer subsidies to Americans to emigrate to inefficient countries and teach them how to live properly, so that they would not be exporting their population.

    Perhaps we could offer subsidies to Americans to emigrate to inefficient countries and teach them how to live properly, so that they would not be exporting their population.

    Yes, now that would be a practical solution to the insanity we have now as long as they renounced American citizenship while receiving the subsidy. One way to improve it would be ending dual-citizenship immediately, but the elites would prevent that with loads of PAC bribe money directly funneled to their DC slaves, oh wait, Congressmen and Congresswomen.

  15. @Bard of Bumperstickers
    Six months, iSteve? Really? Since our republic's been a historical footnote since before our births, how about an executive order one hour after Trump's swearing-in? His campaign speeches implied he'd already "studied" the issue sufficiently. The executive branch has been a combination figurehead and dictatorship for a long time. Just issue an edict, which would just happen to comport with a president's oath of office to protect the country from invasion. For all of The Donald's bluster, he's a swamp bro.

    For all of The Donald’s bluster, he’s a swamp bro.

    You understand that we’re never going to have anyone better, right?

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob, jim jones
    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    No, Trump is turning out to be a long term disaster.

    1. He is energizing the left and pushing the left towards more radical positions.

    2. He undermines the cause of restrictionists by being himself incredibly corrupt, physically repellent and incompetent, and thereby cementing the image that restrictionists are poorly educated boors.

    3. He is trying to survive politically by pitting whites against whites (rural vs urban essentially) which long term does not bode well for any kind of white renaissance.

    4. Trump has failed to articulate any principles for restricting immigration other than keeping bad people out. Political messages based on fear and negativity are difficult to sustain. Immigration restriction should be more focused on improving wages and environmental conditions for American citizens. America should be managed for the benefit of the people whose ancestors helped build this country and whose children will inherit it. I don‘t hear that language from Trump, and it is not surprising since he prefers to import his wives from foreign countries.

    Honestly Rubio or Cruz would have been better. And they would have had to deliver on their promises to keep the restrictionists on side.

    , @TomSchmidt
    Trump did show how to win. Another candidate could take up his ideas and methods, while actually being effective.
  16. @Dan Hayes
    Here we are witnessing one of the opening salvos of the NYT's 1619 Project.

    Miller is truly an American hero-citizen. Unfortunately almost all of his coreligionists do not share his values and are actually antithetical to them. Until such time as their opposition either changes or neutralized, it will be very hard to stop unfettered immigration. Of course care must be taken that another neoconservative Golem is unleashed! Nevertheless, I believe that Miller's motivation is for this nation's interests as opposed to parochial self-interests.

    Botttom line: let the Golem churn out many, many Millers, pronto!

    Here we are witnessing one of the opening salvos of the NYT’s 1619 Project.

    In 1619 we took a little trip
    down the Guinea coastline in a middle passage ship
    We took a little sterling and we took a little cheese
    and we bought the bloody Africans from ‘Rabs and Portogees…

    • Replies: @Hunsdon
    That's funny!
  17. Trump had an opportunity to fulfill the promise of his campaign and radically break from GOP orthodoxy on trade, immigration and foreign policy. I don’t think that President Trump has governed as wisely or as determinedly on these matters as, say, President Buchanan would have. Stephen Miller is notable, perhaps unique, among Trump’s key personnel for having sensible, iconoclastic views. That’s a bad thing (in the sense that it shouldn’t be unusual).

  18. there are basically no facts in this article that make Miller look bad to an objective observer

    Well, Stephen Miller liked to wear cowboy hats in his youth, black ones at that! Miller has been wearing black cowboy hats since age six apparently. Perhaps growing up in Santa Monica, Miller became enamored with Will Rodgers State Park.

    https://laopinion.com/2017/08/03/el-nacionalismo-blanco-de-stephen-miller-encontro-hogar-en-la-casa-blanca/

    https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/stephen-miller-samohi-oral-history/

    I think the middle right photo is a young Miller riding a horse at the Sunset Ranch in Hollywood. Featured in Mudholland Drive. The place seemed haunted to me, just like in the movie.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    Clifford Brown:

    Where and how did this Spanish website manage to get hold of all these Miller family photos?
    , @the one they call Desanex
    He somewhat resembulizes James Drury (The Virginian).

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/James_Drury_The_Virginian.JPG/220px-James_Drury_The_Virginian.JPG

  19. @istevefan

    Unlike the border disputes, this so-called public charge rule affects only legal immigrants, since the unauthorized are already barred from most safety-net programs.
     
    First, I guess this does away with the notion that immigrants don't use welfare. It also shows they realize this proposal has the potential to slow down the immivasion. You will note the squealing is loudest when the proposed policy actually has teeth. That is why there is such opposition to an effective border barrier, and to the enforcement of the rule that immigrants won't be government charges.

    Second, he writes, "since the unauthorized are already barred from most safety-net programs." Can this be rewritten to state that the unauthorized do tap into the social safety net? I thought this was not supposed to happen. But evidently they are admitting that not only do legal immigrants take from the government dole, but illegals do too.

    Let's hope this isn't another Trump initiative to appease the base and then in a couple of weeks he drops it. I can see him tweeting out that he'll give Nancy and Chuck two weeks to come up with something before he enacts this. Sort of like how he did with deportations, or tariffs with China. And I almost forgot about the executive order against birthright citizenship. You remember that, right?

    But evidently they are admitting that not only do legal immigrants take from the government dole, but illegals do too.

    But what about the illegal immigrants who are paying Social Security and Medicare payroll tax deductions, but not benefiting from those programs? Doesn’t this help to balance it out?

    All this stuff is stupid. Trump should declare that the next general election be in effect a referendum on immigration and that if he wins legislation will be introduced to effectively close the US to any further immigration other than spouses, fiance(e)s and close relatives (children and parents) of US citizens.

    Strict quotas will also be set for refugees. Surplus refugees who arrive, but cannot be accommodated will be placed in spartan tented refugee camps on offshore islands like Puerto Rico, Nantucket, Navassa Island, Whidbey Island, and the Aleutians, where they will receive a daily meal of chicken, beans, and rice, and be placed on a waiting list or traded with other countries in need of refugees to meet quotas.

    The fact that Donald Trump recently showed an interest in purchasing Greenland for the US is a clear indication that he has something similar in mind.

    Once it becomes clear to refugees that the United States is hell on earth, a fact already known to many tourists, they will stop wanting to come anyway and will seek lebensraum in the open spaces of Argentina, Brazil, and the Arabian peninsula.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_immigration_detention_facilities

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    But what about the illegal immigrants who are paying Social Security and Medicare payroll tax deductions, but not benefiting from those programs? Doesn’t this help to balance it out?
     
    Not by much, considering how little they're being paid. Same with sales taxes-- they're just not spending enough to contribute.

    There is also the cost of national defense, police protection, etc. from which they benefit as much as anybody else.

    spartan tented refugee camps on offshore islands like Puerto Rico, Nantucket, Navassa Island, Whidbey Island, and the Aleutians...
     
    Don't leave out Wrangell Island!


    https://newsblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Wrangel-Island.jpg

    https://newsblaze.com/issues/environment/are-us-and-russia-fighting-over-wrangel-island_36755/


    However, a massive refugee dump might be just the feet-to-the-fire stimulus to get Puerto Rico to follow the Philippines into independence.
    , @Alden
    Who owns Greenland? Norway Iceland Canada seals penguins vast schools of codfish?

    Illegal aliens get full section 8 food stamps the whole welfare thing as long as they have just one anchor baby. House feed clothe educate and medicate then first then worry about legal status. Or don’t worry about legal status.

    The model minority Chinese get off a plane on Sunday and 8/am Monday arrive in a social services van at a social security office They arrive with a White taxpayer funded translator and birth certificate Chinese passport and official Chinese ID alleging they just turned 65 last week.

    Viola!!! Instant social security Medicare and the supplemental medi caid priority in senior housing from which Americans are banned food stamps, free senior lunch at the community center and those free senior vans to take them around to the free food banks and all their medical appointments. 65 is the age at which serious medical problems start you know.

    We’re not only the health education child welfare education and full employment system of the world, but the old age medical and pension system of Asia and India
    , @International Jew

    The fact that Donald Trump recently showed an interest in purchasing Greenland for the US is a clear indication that he has something similar in mind.
     
    No, I suspect it's just an indication he doesn't realize Greenland is much smaller than it appears on most world maps.
    , @Pericles

    But what about the illegal immigrants who are paying Social Security and Medicare payroll tax deductions, but not benefiting from those programs? Doesn’t this help to balance it out?

     

    To a small extent, but, as Peter Schaeffer memorably showed, they can't even pay their share of medical expenses. Then they also get dem programs etc, which are certainly not free. As the left likes to say, privatized gains, socialized losses.
  20. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    this is a completely sensible bureaucratic policy, like the Harvard admissions office having policies to cut down on the percentage of applicants admitted who go on to flunk out
     
    Basically makes it impossible for people to immigrate if they have dependents who are disabled or handicapped, or have epilepsy, or diabetes, or need a wheelchair, or need Medicaid.

    There was some talk at one time of disqualifying immigrants who use Obamacare, because it is subsidized by the govt., even though it is mandatory everyone to have health insurance, except for illegal immigrants. Our laws are a real mess.

    Actually it would not be a bad idea if they were forbidden to walk on sidewalks or cross bridges paid for with taxpayer money, even if they are paying taxes themselves., unless they can prove an overwhelming need.

    The ideal is that all the immigrants give up before they get to the US, or just go away, and that the US becomes a net exporter of people.

    Perhaps we could offer subsidies to foreign born people to leave the US and go back from whence they came, especially countries like Israel that seem to have many dual citizens here.

    Perhaps we could offer subsidies to Americans to emigrate to inefficient countries and teach them how to live properly, so that they would not be exporting their population.

    Perhaps we could offer subsidies to Americans to emigrate to inefficient countries and teach them how to live properly, so that they would not be exporting their population.

    e.g, the white man’s burden.

    We don’t owe anyone anything except to leave them alone if they are not threatening or obstructing us. There is no history of success in making congoids, or any other aboriginals, act like Europeans or even Orientals or Middle Easterners. Short of massive eugenic programs combined with brutal, heavy handedly enforced concepts of white jurisprudence nothing is going to even be moderately effective. It means changing people against their will and against their nature.

    Close our borders, and leave the other nations alone. Don’t interfere with their development. Let nature do its job, and control the burgeoning populations caused by white meddling in an estblished ecosystem. It’s a lot less cruel and brutal for all concerned in the long run.

    • Agree: Old Prude, Gordo
  21. @Dan Hayes
    Here we are witnessing one of the opening salvos of the NYT's 1619 Project.

    Miller is truly an American hero-citizen. Unfortunately almost all of his coreligionists do not share his values and are actually antithetical to them. Until such time as their opposition either changes or neutralized, it will be very hard to stop unfettered immigration. Of course care must be taken that another neoconservative Golem is unleashed! Nevertheless, I believe that Miller's motivation is for this nation's interests as opposed to parochial self-interests.

    Botttom line: let the Golem churn out many, many Millers, pronto!

    Here we are witnessing one of the opening salvos of the NYT’s 1619 Project.

    I believe it’s part of a separate NYT series called The New Nativists.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_1619_Project

  22. I used to work in a federal agency that, among other things, issued regulations. Thirty months isn’t actually all that bad to get a final regulation, given the notice and comment procedure specified by the Administrative Procedures Act. What probably took time was developing a record that any disproportionate impact on immigrants from Africa, Latin America and the Mideast was incidental and not the intent of the regulation. I note that a number of states and the District of Columbia have already filed suit in northern California (9th Circuit) seeking to invalidate the new regulation on grounds of denial of equal protection. I rate the chances of obtaining an injunction suspending the operation of the rule at about 100% and the chances of its being upheld at the level of the 9th Circuit at about 99.9% So the court case will drag on until after the election at which point the Kamela Harris Administration will withdraw the regulation as part of its Open Borders initiative.

    Trump’s colossal mistake, the one that defined his Administration, was his acquiescence in the court order that blocked his initial restrictions on Muslims entering the country. Had he pulled an Andrew Jackson and defied the courts, he would have been much more successful in restricting immigration and otherwise getting his agenda implemented. His inability to even slightly limit immigration shows that the problem is probably politically irresolvable.

    • Replies: @newrouter
    >Had he pulled an Andrew Jackson and defied the courts, he would have been <

    Playing into the hands of the impeachment coup plotters? There are a couple of coup scenarios: Russia, 25th Amendment, and also yours.

    , @Achmed E. Newman

    Thirty months isn’t actually all that bad to get a final regulation, ...
     
    This isn't new regulation though, D.H. I have some personal knowledge from fairly recently that the immigration visa interview process is a lot about the interviewee having financial support. That's what Steve meant by referring to the law made in 1996.

    Unless it was to pump up, OK Tweet-up, the base, I'm not sure why Mr. Miller would even have to announce anything, rather than quietly get the right people into position to make sure these rule are enforced seriously (again?).

    That's how the left does it, BTW, except usually in an unlawful manner - they get the institutions, including the Feral Gov't, infiltrated with their kind to make sure their will gets done, whether in the spirit of the law or not.

    , @Corvinus
    "Had he pulled an Andrew Jackson and defied the courts, he would have been much more successful in restricting immigration and otherwise getting his agenda implemented."

    First, Trump is no Andrew Jackson. Second, Jackson's action was illegal. Third, had Trump pulled that stunt, there would have been a sh-t storm of epic proportions on both sides, as it sets up a dangerous modern-day precedent. So, in all likelihood, he would have NOT been successful in accomplishing his goal. What he should be doing is getting off Twitter and working with both sides of the aisle for sensible legislation on the matter.
  23. Is there a bigger mensch in USG than Stephen Miller? Has there ever been?

  24. Same as Harvard must be seen as an exclusive country club that is exceedingly difficult to get into. United States and our borders must behave the same way. Why take in the rejects of the third world (such as scam running Central American indios) when we can allow in the best, such as high IQ Brahmans and Chinese to be our future overlords.

    Full disclosure. Central Americans did a great job re-roofing my house. One dude was from Chiapas Mexico (province that borders muy Indio Guatemala) and looked puro Indian. He was a good and constant worker. Roofing company owned by a white guy.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Eric Thomson, the famous WN writer who billed himself as a National Socialist, often said that in his Mexican and Latin American travels he'd come to have "some respect for the Indian, but none for the mestizo".

    You used to get concours quality paint jobs on cars cheap from indio looking guys at lowrider shops around Kansas City, KS, at the 7th Street Trafficway area. They all married fat white broads and the kids aren't good for shit as far as car work goes. They all got city jobs with the Unified Government. (KCK/Wyandotte County). They drive ricers with crummy paint and fart cans: fortunately the trend of putting on tires 2/3rds the proper diameter and three times the proper width has faded out somewhat.

    The ability to get any decent paint work cheap is about gone. Even vo tec schools won't paint cars any more. The prevalence of basecoat/clearcoat and the EPA and OSHA standards for protective gear have scared everyone off.
  25. @Diversity Heretic
    I used to work in a federal agency that, among other things, issued regulations. Thirty months isn't actually all that bad to get a final regulation, given the notice and comment procedure specified by the Administrative Procedures Act. What probably took time was developing a record that any disproportionate impact on immigrants from Africa, Latin America and the Mideast was incidental and not the intent of the regulation. I note that a number of states and the District of Columbia have already filed suit in northern California (9th Circuit) seeking to invalidate the new regulation on grounds of denial of equal protection. I rate the chances of obtaining an injunction suspending the operation of the rule at about 100% and the chances of its being upheld at the level of the 9th Circuit at about 99.9% So the court case will drag on until after the election at which point the Kamela Harris Administration will withdraw the regulation as part of its Open Borders initiative.

    Trump's colossal mistake, the one that defined his Administration, was his acquiescence in the court order that blocked his initial restrictions on Muslims entering the country. Had he pulled an Andrew Jackson and defied the courts, he would have been much more successful in restricting immigration and otherwise getting his agenda implemented. His inability to even slightly limit immigration shows that the problem is probably politically irresolvable.

    >Had he pulled an Andrew Jackson and defied the courts, he would have been <

    Playing into the hands of the impeachment coup plotters? There are a couple of coup scenarios: Russia, 25th Amendment, and also yours.

  26. @Harry Baldwin
    For all of The Donald’s bluster, he’s a swamp bro.

    You understand that we're never going to have anyone better, right?

    No, Trump is turning out to be a long term disaster.

    1. He is energizing the left and pushing the left towards more radical positions.

    2. He undermines the cause of restrictionists by being himself incredibly corrupt, physically repellent and incompetent, and thereby cementing the image that restrictionists are poorly educated boors.

    3. He is trying to survive politically by pitting whites against whites (rural vs urban essentially) which long term does not bode well for any kind of white renaissance.

    4. Trump has failed to articulate any principles for restricting immigration other than keeping bad people out. Political messages based on fear and negativity are difficult to sustain. Immigration restriction should be more focused on improving wages and environmental conditions for American citizens. America should be managed for the benefit of the people whose ancestors helped build this country and whose children will inherit it. I don‘t hear that language from Trump, and it is not surprising since he prefers to import his wives from foreign countries.

    Honestly Rubio or Cruz would have been better. And they would have had to deliver on their promises to keep the restrictionists on side.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Your contribution to the topic of the gestalt defamation propaganda should be that you fell for it in its Russian hackers iteration. There was never any evidence of that either.
    >Trump is energizing the left
    High level Democrats including their last president were and are doing that, and foreign billionaires are funding them, and Trump is nearly the only major public figure opposing them.
    , @Lot
    Cruz and Rubio would have lost to Hillary, and she would have appointed left wing judges and amnestied 15 million illegals and welcomed millions more... with Rubio’s support in the Senate.
  27. @Clifford Brown

    there are basically no facts in this article that make Miller look bad to an objective observer
     
    Well, Stephen Miller liked to wear cowboy hats in his youth, black ones at that! Miller has been wearing black cowboy hats since age six apparently. Perhaps growing up in Santa Monica, Miller became enamored with Will Rodgers State Park.

    https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2017/08/11/miller_custom-5c718060492af042f06d7b8017e1cda9789471b5-s300-c85.jpg


    https://laopinion.com/2017/08/03/el-nacionalismo-blanco-de-stephen-miller-encontro-hogar-en-la-casa-blanca/

    https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/stephen-miller-samohi-oral-history/

    I think the middle right photo is a young Miller riding a horse at the Sunset Ranch in Hollywood. Featured in Mudholland Drive. The place seemed haunted to me, just like in the movie.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GekiIMh4ZkM

    Clifford Brown:

    Where and how did this Spanish website manage to get hold of all these Miller family photos?

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    These are his standard high school yearbook photos that are available all over the internet.

    I just found the Spanish language version funny.
  28. A reasonably mainstream Australian view on this:
    We take more legal immigrants per capita than the USA; there is some debate about the numbers due to impact on housing costs, traffic congestion etc, but the business lobbies and party donors are strongly in favour of high immigration (surprise surprise).

    We are intolerant of illegal arrivals. People who arrive illegally (typically by boats arranged by foreign criminals) cannot stay in Australia, even if they are found to be bona fide refugees. While being processed they are kept offshore, and if found to be refugees, get settled elsewhere (Cambodia, New Guinea for example). This is pretty harsh but it sorts out the bullshitters.

    Both major parties and about 75% of the population support this. Weakening the border control is political suicide. The adults in the Labor Party (our party of the left) are constantly keeping the open borders fanatics in their party away from this issue as regards party policy.

    THe open borders fanatics are a noisy minority and correctly seen as such. But even our debate about per annum legal intake gets corrupted by the racism racism racism crap. We have a sort of Ponzi scheme now where the largest employment area is construction, we build lots of apartments due to population growth, and there is worry about the Ponzi stopping if immigration is reduced. Hmmm.

    For any thick skinned politician in the US, immigration control is an easy path to votes, but you are further down the corruption path than we are. Corruption by the business lobbies and the open borders fanatics.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    We used to have that. Just wait.
    , @Stebbing Heuer
    The interesting thing is:
    1. the open borders nutcases populate a good part of the media - ABC and Fairfax in particular;
    2. they've been advocating open borders for 18 years, since the Tampa, and have been shaming anyone who disagrees with them all that time; but
    3. the consensus behind zero illegal immigration among the public is very strong.

    The puzzling thing is the support for, or indifference to, the mind-boggling levels of legal immigration. 'Yeah, I'm all in favour of ramping up the competition for jobs and housing, for me and my kids!' People either don't get it, or they don't care.
  29. Hmmmm . . . so it’s not the leadership that has led the push for national sovereignty and respect for the same or Mr. Miller.

    But rather the US citizen, primarily conservatives. — Mr. Miller is welcome aboard.

  30. As other commenters have already said: Wretched-refuse, tempest-teeming, breath-yearner immigrants tend to come & go nowadays (in cases when they stay, becoming a moderately expensive but ineffectual political bloc). The dog that didn’t bark, i.e. rich PhD immigrants from Westasia/Eastasia, is the real snake in the grass, so to speak.

  31. @Dan Hayes
    Clifford Brown:

    Where and how did this Spanish website manage to get hold of all these Miller family photos?

    These are his standard high school yearbook photos that are available all over the internet.

    I just found the Spanish language version funny.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  32. And the obvious answer is that immigration restrictionism as a reform movement has a very thin bench of policy intellectuals.

    I have to disagree with that. The fact that there is such a bench, and that Trump took no notice of it, was one of the earliest and clearest signs that this was all going downhill.

  33. “You will note the squealing is loudest when the proposed policy actually has teeth.”

    Indeed. That’s pretty much the response of the open borders fanatics to any enforcement proposal that will work. I long ago stopped arguing with these people. Instead I simply ask them to tell me what policies *will* work to stop illegal immigration. I usually (which is really to say always) get dead silence. They want open borders, but they don’t want to admit they want open borders. So instead of trying to defend whatever enforcement measure you’re pushing, just ask them to tell you what they’d do to secure the border. You’ll hear crickets.

  34. I’ve tried to publicize my personal experience with the process by which administrations get staffed several times , but permit me to try one more time: There are DC law firms that act as gatekeepers, and others that provide lawyers, that staff administrations, Left or Right. Suffice it to say that…they did not approve candidates that supported the 2016 Trump agenda. Henc, the 2019 Kushner agenda….

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    In case you haven't noticed, many commenters' civics education consists of having watched Mr. Smith Goes To Washington.
    , @Anonymous

    ’ve tried to publicize my personal experience with the process by which administrations get staffed several times , but permit me to try one more time: There are DC law firms that act as gatekeepers, and others that provide lawyers, that staff administrations, Left or Right. Suffice it to say that…they did not approve candidates that supported the 2016 Trump agenda. Henc, the 2019 Kushner agenda…
     
    What role have immigration think tanks like CIS, NumbersUSA, and FAIR played?
  35. @Jonathan Mason

    But evidently they are admitting that not only do legal immigrants take from the government dole, but illegals do too.
     
    But what about the illegal immigrants who are paying Social Security and Medicare payroll tax deductions, but not benefiting from those programs? Doesn't this help to balance it out?

    All this stuff is stupid. Trump should declare that the next general election be in effect a referendum on immigration and that if he wins legislation will be introduced to effectively close the US to any further immigration other than spouses, fiance(e)s and close relatives (children and parents) of US citizens.

    Strict quotas will also be set for refugees. Surplus refugees who arrive, but cannot be accommodated will be placed in spartan tented refugee camps on offshore islands like Puerto Rico, Nantucket, Navassa Island, Whidbey Island, and the Aleutians, where they will receive a daily meal of chicken, beans, and rice, and be placed on a waiting list or traded with other countries in need of refugees to meet quotas.

    The fact that Donald Trump recently showed an interest in purchasing Greenland for the US is a clear indication that he has something similar in mind.

    Once it becomes clear to refugees that the United States is hell on earth, a fact already known to many tourists, they will stop wanting to come anyway and will seek lebensraum in the open spaces of Argentina, Brazil, and the Arabian peninsula.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_immigration_detention_facilities

    But what about the illegal immigrants who are paying Social Security and Medicare payroll tax deductions, but not benefiting from those programs? Doesn’t this help to balance it out?

    Not by much, considering how little they’re being paid. Same with sales taxes– they’re just not spending enough to contribute.

    There is also the cost of national defense, police protection, etc. from which they benefit as much as anybody else.

    spartan tented refugee camps on offshore islands like Puerto Rico, Nantucket, Navassa Island, Whidbey Island, and the Aleutians…

    Don’t leave out Wrangell Island!

    https://newsblaze.com/issues/environment/are-us-and-russia-fighting-over-wrangel-island_36755/

    However, a massive refugee dump might be just the feet-to-the-fire stimulus to get Puerto Rico to follow the Philippines into independence.

    • Replies: @Alden
    They do benefit from those programs when they’re 65 just like everybody else who puts in. I forget the numerous court rulings about it. They also are supposed to get unemployment benefits when they’re laid off and of course workmen’s comp if they’re hurt at work.


    A lot of employers take the SS Medicare etc out of paychecks, don’t belong to unemployment or workmen’s comp. immigrant employers are notorious for this.

    That’s why the SS administration suggests everyone, not just dishwashers check once a year to see if their employers are really sending the money deducted to SS Medicare unemployment WCOMP to the various agencies.

    Injured employees are better off going to the horrible county hospital than 4 years of WCOMP lawsuits to get an X Ray.

    , @SWVirginian
    You have to remember Earned Income Tax Credits, which illegal aliens can get. The EITC can exceed anything the person paid in FICA.

    In one of the amnesty proposals - 2013, I think, it was decided that the illegal alien requesting amnesty didn't have to go back and 'pay' taxes but could if he chose. So who would chose? Quite naturally those who stood to get a nice EITC from it. We would end up paying $$$ to the amnestied people. Keep this in mind whenever you hear about an amnesty not really being an amnesty because the beneficiary would have to pay back taxes.

    Also this same bill provided for a program to help the illegal alien seeking amnesty to 'straighten out' his employment records so that he could get full credit for the time he worked. OK, but what happens if the program turns up many US citizens whose work & tax records were compromised by the illegal aliens' using their SS#'s? No help for them and they would not even be notified. If some conscience-stricken government employee took it upon himself to contact these US citizens, he could be fined up to $10,000 per person.

    This last little deal serves to show how little the Senate - which passed it! - cares about US workers who are supposed to be whom they are representing.
  36. @Interested Bystander
    I’ve tried to publicize my personal experience with the process by which administrations get staffed several times , but permit me to try one more time: There are DC law firms that act as gatekeepers, and others that provide lawyers, that staff administrations, Left or Right. Suffice it to say that...they did not approve candidates that supported the 2016 Trump agenda. Henc, the 2019 Kushner agenda....

    In case you haven’t noticed, many commenters’ civics education consists of having watched Mr. Smith Goes To Washington.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    In case you haven’t noticed, many commenters’ civics education consists of having watched Mr. Smith Goes To Washington.
     
    Not many. There's a lot more cynicism here than you give credit for.

    By the way, my civics education consisted of having read I, Claudius

    A much better reference.
  37. @Bubba
    What?!?! Thank God for Steve! It's where I get my news from nearly everyday! Steve's a wizened old veteran of this war and has been on the front line for decades. In fact, Steve has been predicting this while people like you were voting for McCain and Romney.

    You're worried about clicks to an article??? LOL! The NYT's limits how many articles non-payers can read - plus "clicks" are complete BS since those can be easily manipulated as shown by many intelligent, 13 year old (or slightly older teenaged) white boys.

    Steve is doing a great humanitarian service by letting us out-of-the-loop, working stiffs know what the scheming glitterati are up to these days.

    He is an excellent blogger and I enjoy sending money to him every quarter. It sounds like he makes a decent living doing it and he's a brilliant writer.

    I’ve followed Steve for about 23,24 years, since he got on the internet. In fact I followed Steve to UNZ for which I thank him.

  38. It is a common fever-dream of Democrats to imagine Trump deposed by invocation of some kind of 25th Amendment legerdemain. If only Stephen Miller could succeed Trump instead of Mike Pence, I would be all in favor.

  39. @Redneck farmer
    In case you haven't noticed, many commenters' civics education consists of having watched Mr. Smith Goes To Washington.

    In case you haven’t noticed, many commenters’ civics education consists of having watched Mr. Smith Goes To Washington.

    Not many. There’s a lot more cynicism here than you give credit for.

    By the way, my civics education consisted of having read I, Claudius

    A much better reference.

    • Replies: @Ozymandias
    "By the way, my civics education consisted of having read I, Claudius."

    Continue your education by reading 'Claudius The God.' The vaunted Claudius, you see, goes on to commit all of the excesses he had so thoroughly condemned, only this time they sound perfectly reasonable. The second book doesn't read quite as well, it is its juxtaposition to the first book that gives the second its impact.
  40. @Peter Akuleyev
    No, Trump is turning out to be a long term disaster.

    1. He is energizing the left and pushing the left towards more radical positions.

    2. He undermines the cause of restrictionists by being himself incredibly corrupt, physically repellent and incompetent, and thereby cementing the image that restrictionists are poorly educated boors.

    3. He is trying to survive politically by pitting whites against whites (rural vs urban essentially) which long term does not bode well for any kind of white renaissance.

    4. Trump has failed to articulate any principles for restricting immigration other than keeping bad people out. Political messages based on fear and negativity are difficult to sustain. Immigration restriction should be more focused on improving wages and environmental conditions for American citizens. America should be managed for the benefit of the people whose ancestors helped build this country and whose children will inherit it. I don‘t hear that language from Trump, and it is not surprising since he prefers to import his wives from foreign countries.

    Honestly Rubio or Cruz would have been better. And they would have had to deliver on their promises to keep the restrictionists on side.

    Your contribution to the topic of the gestalt defamation propaganda should be that you fell for it in its Russian hackers iteration. There was never any evidence of that either.
    >Trump is energizing the left
    High level Democrats including their last president were and are doing that, and foreign billionaires are funding them, and Trump is nearly the only major public figure opposing them.

  41. Anonymous[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @Interested Bystander
    I’ve tried to publicize my personal experience with the process by which administrations get staffed several times , but permit me to try one more time: There are DC law firms that act as gatekeepers, and others that provide lawyers, that staff administrations, Left or Right. Suffice it to say that...they did not approve candidates that supported the 2016 Trump agenda. Henc, the 2019 Kushner agenda....

    ’ve tried to publicize my personal experience with the process by which administrations get staffed several times , but permit me to try one more time: There are DC law firms that act as gatekeepers, and others that provide lawyers, that staff administrations, Left or Right. Suffice it to say that…they did not approve candidates that supported the 2016 Trump agenda. Henc, the 2019 Kushner agenda…

    What role have immigration think tanks like CIS, NumbersUSA, and FAIR played?

  42. @Jonathan Mason

    But evidently they are admitting that not only do legal immigrants take from the government dole, but illegals do too.
     
    But what about the illegal immigrants who are paying Social Security and Medicare payroll tax deductions, but not benefiting from those programs? Doesn't this help to balance it out?

    All this stuff is stupid. Trump should declare that the next general election be in effect a referendum on immigration and that if he wins legislation will be introduced to effectively close the US to any further immigration other than spouses, fiance(e)s and close relatives (children and parents) of US citizens.

    Strict quotas will also be set for refugees. Surplus refugees who arrive, but cannot be accommodated will be placed in spartan tented refugee camps on offshore islands like Puerto Rico, Nantucket, Navassa Island, Whidbey Island, and the Aleutians, where they will receive a daily meal of chicken, beans, and rice, and be placed on a waiting list or traded with other countries in need of refugees to meet quotas.

    The fact that Donald Trump recently showed an interest in purchasing Greenland for the US is a clear indication that he has something similar in mind.

    Once it becomes clear to refugees that the United States is hell on earth, a fact already known to many tourists, they will stop wanting to come anyway and will seek lebensraum in the open spaces of Argentina, Brazil, and the Arabian peninsula.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_immigration_detention_facilities

    Who owns Greenland? Norway Iceland Canada seals penguins vast schools of codfish?

    Illegal aliens get full section 8 food stamps the whole welfare thing as long as they have just one anchor baby. House feed clothe educate and medicate then first then worry about legal status. Or don’t worry about legal status.

    The model minority Chinese get off a plane on Sunday and 8/am Monday arrive in a social services van at a social security office They arrive with a White taxpayer funded translator and birth certificate Chinese passport and official Chinese ID alleging they just turned 65 last week.

    Viola!!! Instant social security Medicare and the supplemental medi caid priority in senior housing from which Americans are banned food stamps, free senior lunch at the community center and those free senior vans to take them around to the free food banks and all their medical appointments. 65 is the age at which serious medical problems start you know.

    We’re not only the health education child welfare education and full employment system of the world, but the old age medical and pension system of Asia and India

    • Replies: @Jack D

    Who owns Greenland? Norway Iceland Canada seals penguins vast schools of codfish?
     
    Denmark. It's hard to imagine now but Denmark once was a maritime power with an empire - sort of a minor league Britain. They sold us their Virgin Islands colony in 1917 for 25 million $. I think they got the better end of the deal.
  43. @Reg Cæsar

    But what about the illegal immigrants who are paying Social Security and Medicare payroll tax deductions, but not benefiting from those programs? Doesn’t this help to balance it out?
     
    Not by much, considering how little they're being paid. Same with sales taxes-- they're just not spending enough to contribute.

    There is also the cost of national defense, police protection, etc. from which they benefit as much as anybody else.

    spartan tented refugee camps on offshore islands like Puerto Rico, Nantucket, Navassa Island, Whidbey Island, and the Aleutians...
     
    Don't leave out Wrangell Island!


    https://newsblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Wrangel-Island.jpg

    https://newsblaze.com/issues/environment/are-us-and-russia-fighting-over-wrangel-island_36755/


    However, a massive refugee dump might be just the feet-to-the-fire stimulus to get Puerto Rico to follow the Philippines into independence.

    They do benefit from those programs when they’re 65 just like everybody else who puts in. I forget the numerous court rulings about it. They also are supposed to get unemployment benefits when they’re laid off and of course workmen’s comp if they’re hurt at work.

    A lot of employers take the SS Medicare etc out of paychecks, don’t belong to unemployment or workmen’s comp. immigrant employers are notorious for this.

    That’s why the SS administration suggests everyone, not just dishwashers check once a year to see if their employers are really sending the money deducted to SS Medicare unemployment WCOMP to the various agencies.

    Injured employees are better off going to the horrible county hospital than 4 years of WCOMP lawsuits to get an X Ray.

  44. @Bard of Bumperstickers
    Six months, iSteve? Really? Since our republic's been a historical footnote since before our births, how about an executive order one hour after Trump's swearing-in? His campaign speeches implied he'd already "studied" the issue sufficiently. The executive branch has been a combination figurehead and dictatorship for a long time. Just issue an edict, which would just happen to comport with a president's oath of office to protect the country from invasion. For all of The Donald's bluster, he's a swamp bro.

    Trump is Bernice in “Bernice Bobs Her Hair”. If he ever does “Bob his hair/Build a wall”, it will be disappointing and anticlimactic. The barbarian hordes will continue to storm our gates, overwhelm and destroy our culture and (previous) beautiful way of life.
    We are doomed, doomed, doomed, and there ain’t a dang thing that we can do about it.

    • Replies: @Ozymandias
    "We are doomed, doomed, doomed, and there ain’t a dang thing that we can do about it."

    Nothing we can do? Hardly. I, for one, plan to follow your righteous example of curling up into a ball and drowning in self-pity. Thanks for showing us the way, Ukrainian Troll Farmer!
  45. @Empty Vassel
    A reasonably mainstream Australian view on this:
    We take more legal immigrants per capita than the USA; there is some debate about the numbers due to impact on housing costs, traffic congestion etc, but the business lobbies and party donors are strongly in favour of high immigration (surprise surprise).

    We are intolerant of illegal arrivals. People who arrive illegally (typically by boats arranged by foreign criminals) cannot stay in Australia, even if they are found to be bona fide refugees. While being processed they are kept offshore, and if found to be refugees, get settled elsewhere (Cambodia, New Guinea for example). This is pretty harsh but it sorts out the bullshitters.

    Both major parties and about 75% of the population support this. Weakening the border control is political suicide. The adults in the Labor Party (our party of the left) are constantly keeping the open borders fanatics in their party away from this issue as regards party policy.

    THe open borders fanatics are a noisy minority and correctly seen as such. But even our debate about per annum legal intake gets corrupted by the racism racism racism crap. We have a sort of Ponzi scheme now where the largest employment area is construction, we build lots of apartments due to population growth, and there is worry about the Ponzi stopping if immigration is reduced. Hmmm.

    For any thick skinned politician in the US, immigration control is an easy path to votes, but you are further down the corruption path than we are. Corruption by the business lobbies and the open borders fanatics.

    We used to have that. Just wait.

  46. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Clyde
    Same as Harvard must be seen as an exclusive country club that is exceedingly difficult to get into. United States and our borders must behave the same way. Why take in the rejects of the third world (such as scam running Central American indios) when we can allow in the best, such as high IQ Brahmans and Chinese to be our future overlords.

    Full disclosure. Central Americans did a great job re-roofing my house. One dude was from Chiapas Mexico (province that borders muy Indio Guatemala) and looked puro Indian. He was a good and constant worker. Roofing company owned by a white guy.

    Eric Thomson, the famous WN writer who billed himself as a National Socialist, often said that in his Mexican and Latin American travels he’d come to have “some respect for the Indian, but none for the mestizo”.

    You used to get concours quality paint jobs on cars cheap from indio looking guys at lowrider shops around Kansas City, KS, at the 7th Street Trafficway area. They all married fat white broads and the kids aren’t good for shit as far as car work goes. They all got city jobs with the Unified Government. (KCK/Wyandotte County). They drive ricers with crummy paint and fart cans: fortunately the trend of putting on tires 2/3rds the proper diameter and three times the proper width has faded out somewhat.

    The ability to get any decent paint work cheap is about gone. Even vo tec schools won’t paint cars any more. The prevalence of basecoat/clearcoat and the EPA and OSHA standards for protective gear have scared everyone off.

  47. @AnotherDad

    You’re part of the problem, Steve. You’re helping them. They want you tortured, run out of town, and murdered, and you’re giving them clicks. They already fired you from NR and forced you into begging for donations. And they won’t stop until you’re literally obliterated.

    Have you not seen Antifa assaulting anyone deemed not-commie, calling them Nazis? What do you think you are to them? And what do you think the NY Times is making its readers call you, by insinuation, association, and outright op-ed calumny?

    Wisen up. This is war. Act like it.
     

    Steve is acting like it's war.

    Part of war is figuring out what your opponent is up to, what's their strategy, what tactics they use. Basically finding out what you're up against and figuring out how to respond.

    Most of the war--at this point--is the minoritarian propaganda against white gentiles and anyone standing for existence of the West and Western nations, including the odd righteous Jew like Miller. Along with balkanizing the nation, the West, with a flood of foreigners.

    Steve digs into this propaganda, analyzes the lies, the incoherence, the underlying "logic" of the attack on whites\gentiles\men\borders\nations\the West... because that's what he's good at. It's called "intelligence".

    If you're telling Steve to stop paying attention to the NYT, but grab his sniper rifle and head over the mountains to Beverly Hills ... you are actually helping the enemy, because that would be grotesque waste of Steve's talents. (Now for some folks around here ....)

    Haha, A.D. (on the last part)! I appreciate Mr. Camara’s enthusiasm, but I’ve said the following already a few times, and I’ll say it again:

    Steve Sailer reads the NY Times so WE DON’T HAVE TO.

    Someone’s got to do the Dirty Work, and I’d be a fool to:

  48. @R.G. Camara
    And yet you link to them. Instead of dropping their crap into archive.org and preventing them from getting viewers.

    You're part of the problem, Steve. You're helping them. They want you tortured, run out of town, and murdered, and you're giving them clicks. They already fired you from NR and forced you into begging for donations. And they won't stop until you're literally obliterated.

    Have you not seen Antifa assaulting anyone deemed not-commie, calling them Nazis? What do you think you are to them? And what do you think the NY Times is making its readers call you, by insinuation, association, and outright op-ed calumny?

    Wisen up. This is war. Act like it.

    Your advice makes good sense for the rest of us. However, Steve is getting the stupidity of the NY Times out in front, at least for me, Mr. Camara. From this post:

    I wonder how many readers get part way through and have a gestalt: Wait a minute, this article is just a hate screed against an American hero-citizen!

    I wonder how many readers this newspaper would have had if they weren’t a (albeit poorly paid by old East Bloc standards) propaganda organization. I’ll admit, I wouldn’t be reading it even if it were truth-telling in the public interest, as I don’t have the time to sit down with that 3/4″ thick (even on weekdays) newspaper and use up 2 hours of my day. Screw that – I can do that on the internet … wait …

  49. @Jonathan Mason

    But evidently they are admitting that not only do legal immigrants take from the government dole, but illegals do too.
     
    But what about the illegal immigrants who are paying Social Security and Medicare payroll tax deductions, but not benefiting from those programs? Doesn't this help to balance it out?

    All this stuff is stupid. Trump should declare that the next general election be in effect a referendum on immigration and that if he wins legislation will be introduced to effectively close the US to any further immigration other than spouses, fiance(e)s and close relatives (children and parents) of US citizens.

    Strict quotas will also be set for refugees. Surplus refugees who arrive, but cannot be accommodated will be placed in spartan tented refugee camps on offshore islands like Puerto Rico, Nantucket, Navassa Island, Whidbey Island, and the Aleutians, where they will receive a daily meal of chicken, beans, and rice, and be placed on a waiting list or traded with other countries in need of refugees to meet quotas.

    The fact that Donald Trump recently showed an interest in purchasing Greenland for the US is a clear indication that he has something similar in mind.

    Once it becomes clear to refugees that the United States is hell on earth, a fact already known to many tourists, they will stop wanting to come anyway and will seek lebensraum in the open spaces of Argentina, Brazil, and the Arabian peninsula.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_immigration_detention_facilities

    The fact that Donald Trump recently showed an interest in purchasing Greenland for the US is a clear indication that he has something similar in mind.

    No, I suspect it’s just an indication he doesn’t realize Greenland is much smaller than it appears on most world maps.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Although Greenland is not as big as it appears on a Mercator projection, it's still plenty big. It's 4 times the size of France. However, 3/4 of it is covered by a permanent ice sheet.

    But if we are entering a warm period then it might become more livable. It got it's name in a previous warm period (or else Erik the Red was trying to do a little marketing). Trump built his hotel on 42nd St. in NY when the Grand Central area was kind of slummy (across the street was the last Automat, where homeless people used to hang out all day). He knows that you buy BEFORE the neighborhood is gentrified.
  50. @Bard of Bumperstickers
    Six months, iSteve? Really? Since our republic's been a historical footnote since before our births, how about an executive order one hour after Trump's swearing-in? His campaign speeches implied he'd already "studied" the issue sufficiently. The executive branch has been a combination figurehead and dictatorship for a long time. Just issue an edict, which would just happen to comport with a president's oath of office to protect the country from invasion. For all of The Donald's bluster, he's a swamp bro.

    Yes, and if he wins a second term I suspect he’ll swing to the left and govern like a Joe Biden.

  51. @Diversity Heretic
    I used to work in a federal agency that, among other things, issued regulations. Thirty months isn't actually all that bad to get a final regulation, given the notice and comment procedure specified by the Administrative Procedures Act. What probably took time was developing a record that any disproportionate impact on immigrants from Africa, Latin America and the Mideast was incidental and not the intent of the regulation. I note that a number of states and the District of Columbia have already filed suit in northern California (9th Circuit) seeking to invalidate the new regulation on grounds of denial of equal protection. I rate the chances of obtaining an injunction suspending the operation of the rule at about 100% and the chances of its being upheld at the level of the 9th Circuit at about 99.9% So the court case will drag on until after the election at which point the Kamela Harris Administration will withdraw the regulation as part of its Open Borders initiative.

    Trump's colossal mistake, the one that defined his Administration, was his acquiescence in the court order that blocked his initial restrictions on Muslims entering the country. Had he pulled an Andrew Jackson and defied the courts, he would have been much more successful in restricting immigration and otherwise getting his agenda implemented. His inability to even slightly limit immigration shows that the problem is probably politically irresolvable.

    Thirty months isn’t actually all that bad to get a final regulation, …

    This isn’t new regulation though, D.H. I have some personal knowledge from fairly recently that the immigration visa interview process is a lot about the interviewee having financial support. That’s what Steve meant by referring to the law made in 1996.

    Unless it was to pump up, OK Tweet-up, the base, I’m not sure why Mr. Miller would even have to announce anything, rather than quietly get the right people into position to make sure these rule are enforced seriously (again?).

    That’s how the left does it, BTW, except usually in an unlawful manner – they get the institutions, including the Feral Gov’t, infiltrated with their kind to make sure their will gets done, whether in the spirit of the law or not.

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    You make a good point about the nature of the regulation here. On the other hand, the officials making the regulation knew that it would face intensely hostile judicial scrutiny/opposition from the moment that it was made final, so they probably were extra careful in trying to build a record that they hoped that they could defend against judges inclined to find it unconstitutional.
  52. @Empty Vassel
    A reasonably mainstream Australian view on this:
    We take more legal immigrants per capita than the USA; there is some debate about the numbers due to impact on housing costs, traffic congestion etc, but the business lobbies and party donors are strongly in favour of high immigration (surprise surprise).

    We are intolerant of illegal arrivals. People who arrive illegally (typically by boats arranged by foreign criminals) cannot stay in Australia, even if they are found to be bona fide refugees. While being processed they are kept offshore, and if found to be refugees, get settled elsewhere (Cambodia, New Guinea for example). This is pretty harsh but it sorts out the bullshitters.

    Both major parties and about 75% of the population support this. Weakening the border control is political suicide. The adults in the Labor Party (our party of the left) are constantly keeping the open borders fanatics in their party away from this issue as regards party policy.

    THe open borders fanatics are a noisy minority and correctly seen as such. But even our debate about per annum legal intake gets corrupted by the racism racism racism crap. We have a sort of Ponzi scheme now where the largest employment area is construction, we build lots of apartments due to population growth, and there is worry about the Ponzi stopping if immigration is reduced. Hmmm.

    For any thick skinned politician in the US, immigration control is an easy path to votes, but you are further down the corruption path than we are. Corruption by the business lobbies and the open borders fanatics.

    The interesting thing is:
    1. the open borders nutcases populate a good part of the media – ABC and Fairfax in particular;
    2. they’ve been advocating open borders for 18 years, since the Tampa, and have been shaming anyone who disagrees with them all that time; but
    3. the consensus behind zero illegal immigration among the public is very strong.

    The puzzling thing is the support for, or indifference to, the mind-boggling levels of legal immigration. ‘Yeah, I’m all in favour of ramping up the competition for jobs and housing, for me and my kids!’ People either don’t get it, or they don’t care.

  53. @Clifford Brown

    there are basically no facts in this article that make Miller look bad to an objective observer
     
    Well, Stephen Miller liked to wear cowboy hats in his youth, black ones at that! Miller has been wearing black cowboy hats since age six apparently. Perhaps growing up in Santa Monica, Miller became enamored with Will Rodgers State Park.

    https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2017/08/11/miller_custom-5c718060492af042f06d7b8017e1cda9789471b5-s300-c85.jpg


    https://laopinion.com/2017/08/03/el-nacionalismo-blanco-de-stephen-miller-encontro-hogar-en-la-casa-blanca/

    https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/stephen-miller-samohi-oral-history/

    I think the middle right photo is a young Miller riding a horse at the Sunset Ranch in Hollywood. Featured in Mudholland Drive. The place seemed haunted to me, just like in the movie.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GekiIMh4ZkM

    He somewhat resembulizes James Drury (The Virginian).

  54. @Kronos
    Are there any good books of the “immigration wars?” Ones with the approval of John Derbyshire and Steve Sailer?

    Steve Sailer’s dense & insightful Obama-book “America’s Half-Blood Prince – Barrack Obama”s Story of Race and Inheritance”i s about immigration too.

    Murray/Herrnstein The Bell Curve

    Heiner Rindermann Cognitive Capitalism – Human Capital and the Wellbeing of Nations

    This is a good speech about the topic (it has one flaw: Putnam is overoptimistic what the future is concerned – beware what Keynes once said about “the long run” – we’ll be all dead by then – – but except for that: Very interesting. Jonathan Haidt refers to this speech at times when talking about the social erosion caused by immigration).
    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-9477.2007.00176.x

    Paul Collier, EXODUS

    David Murray The Strange Death of Europe

    Great but – just like the Bell Curve – not translated (cf. Steve Sailer’s remark in the post above, how few intellectuals actually care about Immigration and it’s Discontends

    Thilo Sarrazin – Deutschland schafft sich ab

    These are two Steve Sailer might not know of:

    Rolf Peter Sieferle – Das Migrationsproblem (immigration seen from an economical-historical standpoint – weak on IQ) but that does not matter much in his context, because otherwise, he is spot on).

    Hans Magnus Enzensberger – Versuche über den Unfrieden – Vier Essays – parts of these brilliant pieces are translated.

    The subjects: a) A new kind of civil wars in co-evolution with Globalisation and Diversity – Enzensberger calls them “the molecular civil wars”; b) Migration in our globalized times; c) The Horrible Men – A look at the radical losers (such as Muslim terrorists); d) Something strange – The Guangxi-Rebellion in 19th century China. – A mostly overlooked (!) disastrous God-State rebellion lead by King Hong, which caused some 20 million deaths. Could well have been the most terrible of all civil wars in history, but, as I wrote above: Enzensberger points out, that – it is is hardly being noticed.

  55. @R.G. Camara
    And yet you link to them. Instead of dropping their crap into archive.org and preventing them from getting viewers.

    You're part of the problem, Steve. You're helping them. They want you tortured, run out of town, and murdered, and you're giving them clicks. They already fired you from NR and forced you into begging for donations. And they won't stop until you're literally obliterated.

    Have you not seen Antifa assaulting anyone deemed not-commie, calling them Nazis? What do you think you are to them? And what do you think the NY Times is making its readers call you, by insinuation, association, and outright op-ed calumny?

    Wisen up. This is war. Act like it.

    This isn’t the time to implement a Stimson themed “gentlemen don’t read other gentlemen’s mail” strategy. You always spy on the enemy and intercept their plans (especially when they’re against yourself.) please keep in mind most of those clicks are trivial. I’m sure many NYT clicks nowadays are mainly fueled by bots originating in China.

    But to understand their plans and devise an effective response we need inoculation. Imagine how less effective the 1960s crazy crap would’ve been if the majority of the populace were ready for it. That the Great Society and the Warren Court were going to implement truly disastrous policies. It would’ve severely declined the scope of their operations.

  56. @Peter Akuleyev
    No, Trump is turning out to be a long term disaster.

    1. He is energizing the left and pushing the left towards more radical positions.

    2. He undermines the cause of restrictionists by being himself incredibly corrupt, physically repellent and incompetent, and thereby cementing the image that restrictionists are poorly educated boors.

    3. He is trying to survive politically by pitting whites against whites (rural vs urban essentially) which long term does not bode well for any kind of white renaissance.

    4. Trump has failed to articulate any principles for restricting immigration other than keeping bad people out. Political messages based on fear and negativity are difficult to sustain. Immigration restriction should be more focused on improving wages and environmental conditions for American citizens. America should be managed for the benefit of the people whose ancestors helped build this country and whose children will inherit it. I don‘t hear that language from Trump, and it is not surprising since he prefers to import his wives from foreign countries.

    Honestly Rubio or Cruz would have been better. And they would have had to deliver on their promises to keep the restrictionists on side.

    Cruz and Rubio would have lost to Hillary, and she would have appointed left wing judges and amnestied 15 million illegals and welcomed millions more… with Rubio’s support in the Senate.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin, MEH 0910
  57. One thing an astute observer would notice in that NYT article on the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy(tm) financed by the late Mrs. May is the amount of financing: $180M total over 12 years to multiple institutions. Very few people will stop to think that SPLC alone spends almost as much in a single year. Moldbug wrote about this almost exactly 10 years ago:

    If you actually know anything about the American right, you realize that it is a tiny pimple on the ass of the American left. For one thing, the right has no Rockefeller or Carnegie or Guggenheim. (It had a Pew and a Ford, but the money was stolen.) On the right, the most blatant acts of desperate corruption, extracting the most grudging of contributions from the most disreputable of sources, yield a tiny, sporadic creek of cash, like the dribble of an 85-year-old man.

    Whereas on the left, heaven pisses money like an African bull elephant. You’ll see this pattern whenever you compare the two apples-to-apples—for example, compare the funding for anti-green research to the funding for pro-green research. Or compare the political affiliation of celebrities, a fine proxy for the feelings of the ultra-rich.

    Reading that NYT article, I haven’t had as much sardonic fun since that intrepid undercover journalist, whatsisname, leaked to the world that Heritage Foundation is operating on the enormous budget of $8M per annum.

    • Replies: @Jack D

    It had a Pew and a Ford, but the money was stolen.
     
    It's a maxim that any institution that does not have an explicit right wing agenda will, over time, become a left wing institution.
  58. So right ….

    In NYT mobile edition, those two articles – the defunct heiress and the lively Miller – are the two first to be presented !!!

  59. The executive order was allegedly slow-walked in USCIS. It’s the reason Miller had Lee Francis Cissna thrown out of his job – to the outrage of the mainstream immigration restrictionist organizations and commentators like Ryan James Girdusky, I might add.

    • Replies: @IHTG
    It looks like Mr. Girdusky may have replied to this:

    https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1163145812064559104
  60. How effective has he really been? Running into Ivanka and her husband can’t be much fun.

  61. @AnotherDad

    You’re part of the problem, Steve. You’re helping them. They want you tortured, run out of town, and murdered, and you’re giving them clicks. They already fired you from NR and forced you into begging for donations. And they won’t stop until you’re literally obliterated.

    Have you not seen Antifa assaulting anyone deemed not-commie, calling them Nazis? What do you think you are to them? And what do you think the NY Times is making its readers call you, by insinuation, association, and outright op-ed calumny?

    Wisen up. This is war. Act like it.
     

    Steve is acting like it's war.

    Part of war is figuring out what your opponent is up to, what's their strategy, what tactics they use. Basically finding out what you're up against and figuring out how to respond.

    Most of the war--at this point--is the minoritarian propaganda against white gentiles and anyone standing for existence of the West and Western nations, including the odd righteous Jew like Miller. Along with balkanizing the nation, the West, with a flood of foreigners.

    Steve digs into this propaganda, analyzes the lies, the incoherence, the underlying "logic" of the attack on whites\gentiles\men\borders\nations\the West... because that's what he's good at. It's called "intelligence".

    If you're telling Steve to stop paying attention to the NYT, but grab his sniper rifle and head over the mountains to Beverly Hills ... you are actually helping the enemy, because that would be grotesque waste of Steve's talents. (Now for some folks around here ....)

    The war is lost. They’ved moved on to mopping up pockets of resistance.

  62. @Jonathan Mason

    But evidently they are admitting that not only do legal immigrants take from the government dole, but illegals do too.
     
    But what about the illegal immigrants who are paying Social Security and Medicare payroll tax deductions, but not benefiting from those programs? Doesn't this help to balance it out?

    All this stuff is stupid. Trump should declare that the next general election be in effect a referendum on immigration and that if he wins legislation will be introduced to effectively close the US to any further immigration other than spouses, fiance(e)s and close relatives (children and parents) of US citizens.

    Strict quotas will also be set for refugees. Surplus refugees who arrive, but cannot be accommodated will be placed in spartan tented refugee camps on offshore islands like Puerto Rico, Nantucket, Navassa Island, Whidbey Island, and the Aleutians, where they will receive a daily meal of chicken, beans, and rice, and be placed on a waiting list or traded with other countries in need of refugees to meet quotas.

    The fact that Donald Trump recently showed an interest in purchasing Greenland for the US is a clear indication that he has something similar in mind.

    Once it becomes clear to refugees that the United States is hell on earth, a fact already known to many tourists, they will stop wanting to come anyway and will seek lebensraum in the open spaces of Argentina, Brazil, and the Arabian peninsula.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_immigration_detention_facilities

    But what about the illegal immigrants who are paying Social Security and Medicare payroll tax deductions, but not benefiting from those programs? Doesn’t this help to balance it out?

    To a small extent, but, as Peter Schaeffer memorably showed, they can’t even pay their share of medical expenses. Then they also get dem programs etc, which are certainly not free. As the left likes to say, privatized gains, socialized losses.

  63. @R.G. Camara
    And yet you link to them. Instead of dropping their crap into archive.org and preventing them from getting viewers.

    You're part of the problem, Steve. You're helping them. They want you tortured, run out of town, and murdered, and you're giving them clicks. They already fired you from NR and forced you into begging for donations. And they won't stop until you're literally obliterated.

    Have you not seen Antifa assaulting anyone deemed not-commie, calling them Nazis? What do you think you are to them? And what do you think the NY Times is making its readers call you, by insinuation, association, and outright op-ed calumny?

    Wisen up. This is war. Act like it.

    And yet you link to them. Instead of dropping their crap into archive.org and preventing them from getting viewers.

    And how are viewers to know what the dark side is if they don’t read them? I listen to and read all media, myself. NBC, CNN, the WashPost, NYTimes, all the greats. If you don’t read em, how do you know what you’re up against? FoxNews? Hardly a paragon of virtue themselves and besides, they’ve turned the entire network over to feminist women and homosexuals, so they’re lost to us now. You have to read their stuff, their papers, their editorials and see who backs them. Without all that, you’re no different than Liberal Feminist Democrats who don’t read shit, they just operate on their Left-Feels. To me, that’s less objectionable than righties who sit on Foxnews all day and read nothing from the other sides, they’re the same sort of parrots, only other-side-of-political coin. I expect the Leftist Feminists to be morons, they never disappoint. That you even get to the driveway of Conservative thought makes you 20 IQ points higher than a typical Feminist Democrat. Now put that 20 points to good use so you’ll know where and how big are the holes to poke in their narratives on everything from the environment to immigration when your Feminist Democrat relative opens her big fat trap at Thanksgiving dinner. It’s pretty easy, their heads are filled with Maddow and other lesbian misfits preaching the theology of enstupidation. I think Steve invented that word. Or Goad, but I digress.

    And be glad Sailer and the rest dissect this stuff for you because it doesn’t sound like you want to do it on your own.

    • Agree: Clyde
  64. Most shocking is the realization of the difficulties the government encounters in implementing the laws. The bureaucracy in charge does what it likes, generally nothing, and only where there is some odd energetic Jew like Miller something is being done.

  65. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    this is a completely sensible bureaucratic policy, like the Harvard admissions office having policies to cut down on the percentage of applicants admitted who go on to flunk out
     
    Basically makes it impossible for people to immigrate if they have dependents who are disabled or handicapped, or have epilepsy, or diabetes, or need a wheelchair, or need Medicaid.

    There was some talk at one time of disqualifying immigrants who use Obamacare, because it is subsidized by the govt., even though it is mandatory everyone to have health insurance, except for illegal immigrants. Our laws are a real mess.

    Actually it would not be a bad idea if they were forbidden to walk on sidewalks or cross bridges paid for with taxpayer money, even if they are paying taxes themselves., unless they can prove an overwhelming need.

    The ideal is that all the immigrants give up before they get to the US, or just go away, and that the US becomes a net exporter of people.

    Perhaps we could offer subsidies to foreign born people to leave the US and go back from whence they came, especially countries like Israel that seem to have many dual citizens here.

    Perhaps we could offer subsidies to Americans to emigrate to inefficient countries and teach them how to live properly, so that they would not be exporting their population.

    Far more often its elderly parents etc. immediately dumped on emergency rooms and or medicare for medical care services, often able to coerce out social security benefits etc.

    Far more common than being permitted to import diseas and conflict, though on the border anything is possible.

    Family chain migration means you drag your parents without a word of english or funds and simply dump them on US roads, hospitals, environment etc.

    # mass immmigration

  66. @Achmed E. Newman

    Thirty months isn’t actually all that bad to get a final regulation, ...
     
    This isn't new regulation though, D.H. I have some personal knowledge from fairly recently that the immigration visa interview process is a lot about the interviewee having financial support. That's what Steve meant by referring to the law made in 1996.

    Unless it was to pump up, OK Tweet-up, the base, I'm not sure why Mr. Miller would even have to announce anything, rather than quietly get the right people into position to make sure these rule are enforced seriously (again?).

    That's how the left does it, BTW, except usually in an unlawful manner - they get the institutions, including the Feral Gov't, infiltrated with their kind to make sure their will gets done, whether in the spirit of the law or not.

    You make a good point about the nature of the regulation here. On the other hand, the officials making the regulation knew that it would face intensely hostile judicial scrutiny/opposition from the moment that it was made final, so they probably were extra careful in trying to build a record that they hoped that they could defend against judges inclined to find it unconstitutional.

  67. @Alden
    Who owns Greenland? Norway Iceland Canada seals penguins vast schools of codfish?

    Illegal aliens get full section 8 food stamps the whole welfare thing as long as they have just one anchor baby. House feed clothe educate and medicate then first then worry about legal status. Or don’t worry about legal status.

    The model minority Chinese get off a plane on Sunday and 8/am Monday arrive in a social services van at a social security office They arrive with a White taxpayer funded translator and birth certificate Chinese passport and official Chinese ID alleging they just turned 65 last week.

    Viola!!! Instant social security Medicare and the supplemental medi caid priority in senior housing from which Americans are banned food stamps, free senior lunch at the community center and those free senior vans to take them around to the free food banks and all their medical appointments. 65 is the age at which serious medical problems start you know.

    We’re not only the health education child welfare education and full employment system of the world, but the old age medical and pension system of Asia and India

    Who owns Greenland? Norway Iceland Canada seals penguins vast schools of codfish?

    Denmark. It’s hard to imagine now but Denmark once was a maritime power with an empire – sort of a minor league Britain. They sold us their Virgin Islands colony in 1917 for 25 million $. I think they got the better end of the deal.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson 3

    They sold us their Virgin Islands colony in 1917 for 25 million $. I think they got the better end of the deal.
     
    If we could give someone $25 M to take Puerto Rico off our hands we would get the better end of the deal.
    , @Jonathan Mason

    It’s hard to imagine now but Denmark once was a maritime power
     
    From what I remember in secondary school history, King Canute was reputed to be up there with Moses in ability to turn harness wave power and set up his throne on the beach.

    When the Danes were Vikings they behaved very badly, then the Danes were Christianized around 965 by Harald Bluetooth, the inventor of wireless speakers, as a political move to placate the European Union, or Holy Roman Empire, as it was then known.

    The legend of the 12th century Prince Amleth of Denmark inspired English auteur Will Shakespeare to write a lengthy knock-off version about an indecisive ruler who pretends to be crazy by talking to a ghost. In the final scene the entire Danish royal family is wiped out when they accidentally drink poison, stab each other with poisoned swords, etc. and enact other political ruses typical of the time in which Shakespeare was writing.

    Later Denmark recovered and played an important role in the lucrative transatlantic human resources trade via its trading posts in what is now Ghana and in the Virgin Islands. In a triangular trade Denmark also got lots of sugar and rum out of the deal, and marketed firearms to Africa.

    With the revolution in Haiti, and the British Empire ending slavery in 1833, the jig was up for the slave trade by 1848, when it was abolished and slave owners in the Danish West Indies were paid reparations of $50 for each slave released. The slaves did not benefit very much as for the most part they continued to work for the same owners at minimum wage without benefits.

    Denmark put its now unprofitable Caribbean real estate on the market, but was not able to sell it until 1917 when the US stepped up to buy the impoverished islands for use as a possible naval base. As part of the Convention between the United States and Denmark for cession of the Danish West Indies, it was also agreed that Denmark could have the whole of Greenland., although now it looks like the US might be regretting that part of the deal.

    If there is anything else you wish to know about the high school history of Denmark, do not hesitate to ask.
    , @Ahem
    Did the Virgin Islands inhabitants agree to be "owned" by the USA in a plebiscite?

    If the answer is 'no', the sale was not valid.

    Does Trump think that the will of the Greenland's inhabitants is irrelevant?

    If the answer is 'yes', then Trump is no better than any other of history's many invaders.

    One question that no one seems to have considered: Why on earth would any region be stupid and insane enough to want to join up with a rapidly crumbling , dystopian empire like the US?
  68. @Candide III
    One thing an astute observer would notice in that NYT article on the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy(tm) financed by the late Mrs. May is the amount of financing: $180M total over 12 years to multiple institutions. Very few people will stop to think that SPLC alone spends almost as much in a single year. Moldbug wrote about this almost exactly 10 years ago:

    If you actually know anything about the American right, you realize that it is a tiny pimple on the ass of the American left. For one thing, the right has no Rockefeller or Carnegie or Guggenheim. (It had a Pew and a Ford, but the money was stolen.) On the right, the most blatant acts of desperate corruption, extracting the most grudging of contributions from the most disreputable of sources, yield a tiny, sporadic creek of cash, like the dribble of an 85-year-old man.

    Whereas on the left, heaven pisses money like an African bull elephant. You’ll see this pattern whenever you compare the two apples-to-apples—for example, compare the funding for anti-green research to the funding for pro-green research. Or compare the political affiliation of celebrities, a fine proxy for the feelings of the ultra-rich.
     

    Reading that NYT article, I haven't had as much sardonic fun since that intrepid undercover journalist, whatsisname, leaked to the world that Heritage Foundation is operating on the enormous budget of $8M per annum.

    It had a Pew and a Ford, but the money was stolen.

    It’s a maxim that any institution that does not have an explicit right wing agenda will, over time, become a left wing institution.

  69. @Harry Baldwin
    For all of The Donald’s bluster, he’s a swamp bro.

    You understand that we're never going to have anyone better, right?

    Trump did show how to win. Another candidate could take up his ideas and methods, while actually being effective.

  70. @International Jew

    The fact that Donald Trump recently showed an interest in purchasing Greenland for the US is a clear indication that he has something similar in mind.
     
    No, I suspect it's just an indication he doesn't realize Greenland is much smaller than it appears on most world maps.

    Although Greenland is not as big as it appears on a Mercator projection, it’s still plenty big. It’s 4 times the size of France. However, 3/4 of it is covered by a permanent ice sheet.

    But if we are entering a warm period then it might become more livable. It got it’s name in a previous warm period (or else Erik the Red was trying to do a little marketing). Trump built his hotel on 42nd St. in NY when the Grand Central area was kind of slummy (across the street was the last Automat, where homeless people used to hang out all day). He knows that you buy BEFORE the neighborhood is gentrified.

    • Agree: Cortes
    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    My parents took us to NYC when we were kids. We saw the Rockettes at Radio City Music Hall, and had lunch at the Automat, which I thought was one of the coolest places I'd ever been to.
  71. @Jack D

    Who owns Greenland? Norway Iceland Canada seals penguins vast schools of codfish?
     
    Denmark. It's hard to imagine now but Denmark once was a maritime power with an empire - sort of a minor league Britain. They sold us their Virgin Islands colony in 1917 for 25 million $. I think they got the better end of the deal.

    They sold us their Virgin Islands colony in 1917 for 25 million $. I think they got the better end of the deal.

    If we could give someone $25 M to take Puerto Rico off our hands we would get the better end of the deal.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    The American Virgin Islands are apparently now scary corrupt and violent.
  72. @Reg Cæsar

    But what about the illegal immigrants who are paying Social Security and Medicare payroll tax deductions, but not benefiting from those programs? Doesn’t this help to balance it out?
     
    Not by much, considering how little they're being paid. Same with sales taxes-- they're just not spending enough to contribute.

    There is also the cost of national defense, police protection, etc. from which they benefit as much as anybody else.

    spartan tented refugee camps on offshore islands like Puerto Rico, Nantucket, Navassa Island, Whidbey Island, and the Aleutians...
     
    Don't leave out Wrangell Island!


    https://newsblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Wrangel-Island.jpg

    https://newsblaze.com/issues/environment/are-us-and-russia-fighting-over-wrangel-island_36755/


    However, a massive refugee dump might be just the feet-to-the-fire stimulus to get Puerto Rico to follow the Philippines into independence.

    You have to remember Earned Income Tax Credits, which illegal aliens can get. The EITC can exceed anything the person paid in FICA.

    In one of the amnesty proposals – 2013, I think, it was decided that the illegal alien requesting amnesty didn’t have to go back and ‘pay’ taxes but could if he chose. So who would chose? Quite naturally those who stood to get a nice EITC from it. We would end up paying $$$ to the amnestied people. Keep this in mind whenever you hear about an amnesty not really being an amnesty because the beneficiary would have to pay back taxes.

    Also this same bill provided for a program to help the illegal alien seeking amnesty to ‘straighten out’ his employment records so that he could get full credit for the time he worked. OK, but what happens if the program turns up many US citizens whose work & tax records were compromised by the illegal aliens’ using their SS#’s? No help for them and they would not even be notified. If some conscience-stricken government employee took it upon himself to contact these US citizens, he could be fined up to $10,000 per person.

    This last little deal serves to show how little the Senate – which passed it! – cares about US workers who are supposed to be whom they are representing.

  73. @Reg Cæsar

    Here we are witnessing one of the opening salvos of the NYT’s 1619 Project.
     
    In 1619 we took a little trip
    down the Guinea coastline in a middle passage ship
    We took a little sterling and we took a little cheese
    and we bought the bloody Africans from 'Rabs and Portogees...

    That’s funny!

  74. Two lawsuits already filed challenging the Trump admin’s new “public charge” rule re: limiting permanent residency for immigrants who use public benefits.

    https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6285264/8-16-19-California-v-DHS-Complaint.pdf

    https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6285339/8-16-19-La-Clinica-De-La-Raza-v-Trump-Complaint.pdf

  75. @Jack D
    Although Greenland is not as big as it appears on a Mercator projection, it's still plenty big. It's 4 times the size of France. However, 3/4 of it is covered by a permanent ice sheet.

    But if we are entering a warm period then it might become more livable. It got it's name in a previous warm period (or else Erik the Red was trying to do a little marketing). Trump built his hotel on 42nd St. in NY when the Grand Central area was kind of slummy (across the street was the last Automat, where homeless people used to hang out all day). He knows that you buy BEFORE the neighborhood is gentrified.

    My parents took us to NYC when we were kids. We saw the Rockettes at Radio City Music Hall, and had lunch at the Automat, which I thought was one of the coolest places I’d ever been to.

  76. @Kronos
    Are there any good books of the “immigration wars?” Ones with the approval of John Derbyshire and Steve Sailer?

    “alien nation” by Peter Brimelow

  77. @Jonathan Mason

    this is a completely sensible bureaucratic policy, like the Harvard admissions office having policies to cut down on the percentage of applicants admitted who go on to flunk out
     
    Basically makes it impossible for people to immigrate if they have dependents who are disabled or handicapped, or have epilepsy, or diabetes, or need a wheelchair, or need Medicaid.

    There was some talk at one time of disqualifying immigrants who use Obamacare, because it is subsidized by the govt., even though it is mandatory everyone to have health insurance, except for illegal immigrants. Our laws are a real mess.

    Actually it would not be a bad idea if they were forbidden to walk on sidewalks or cross bridges paid for with taxpayer money, even if they are paying taxes themselves., unless they can prove an overwhelming need.

    The ideal is that all the immigrants give up before they get to the US, or just go away, and that the US becomes a net exporter of people.

    Perhaps we could offer subsidies to foreign born people to leave the US and go back from whence they came, especially countries like Israel that seem to have many dual citizens here.

    Perhaps we could offer subsidies to Americans to emigrate to inefficient countries and teach them how to live properly, so that they would not be exporting their population.

    It’ a standard policy for countries like Canada and Australia to not give permanent residence permits for people who have dependantdisabled children (for instance Down Syndrome). Even university professors are not exempt from this.

  78. Well this problem began in 1965 and has been festering ever since; yet we expect President Trump in 2.5 years to have solved the entire thing… in 2.5 years.

    Very unrealistic.

    He did some very good things which, of course, no one gives him enough credit for such as stopping the Left from putting in two more Supreme Court Justices who would have enforced even more nutty rulings from the Looney Left.

    Not to mention appointing federal Judges with some common sense throughout the lower courts including the 9th circuit.

    Cut off a major source of funding from the Looney Left when he revised the tax code and stopped them from taking the massive federal deductions they had handed themselves to fund all their nutty programs.

    Is attempting to change the census information gathering info so we can stop the Left from inflating their numbers (by including all the illegals in the count) and getting additional seats for themselves in the House with this nasty little trick. Similar to what the Dems tried to do with the slave holding states counting their slaves in their population numbers (even through slaves couldn’t vote) to give themselves more seats in the House.

    Some things never change…

    Attempting to build the wall through numerous court challengers.

    Somehow managed to persuade Mexico and Guatemala to serve as a ‘living wall’ to vet illegal immigrants traveling there first before releasing them either to the US or back home as 90% of the asylum claims have been found to be bogus.

    Finally got the federal courts to okay his change to Obama Care permitting limited short-term insurance plans thus enabling people making under 48,000 a chance to afford insurance for the first time in almost 8 years…

    He’s done other things but I can’t remember all of them.

    We might wish for someone in better physical condition and with more control over his tweeting; but considering what we could have had, Trump’s not bad…better than Romney or McCain would have been…

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  79. @Jack D

    Who owns Greenland? Norway Iceland Canada seals penguins vast schools of codfish?
     
    Denmark. It's hard to imagine now but Denmark once was a maritime power with an empire - sort of a minor league Britain. They sold us their Virgin Islands colony in 1917 for 25 million $. I think they got the better end of the deal.

    It’s hard to imagine now but Denmark once was a maritime power

    From what I remember in secondary school history, King Canute was reputed to be up there with Moses in ability to turn harness wave power and set up his throne on the beach.

    When the Danes were Vikings they behaved very badly, then the Danes were Christianized around 965 by Harald Bluetooth, the inventor of wireless speakers, as a political move to placate the European Union, or Holy Roman Empire, as it was then known.

    The legend of the 12th century Prince Amleth of Denmark inspired English auteur Will Shakespeare to write a lengthy knock-off version about an indecisive ruler who pretends to be crazy by talking to a ghost. In the final scene the entire Danish royal family is wiped out when they accidentally drink poison, stab each other with poisoned swords, etc. and enact other political ruses typical of the time in which Shakespeare was writing.

    Later Denmark recovered and played an important role in the lucrative transatlantic human resources trade via its trading posts in what is now Ghana and in the Virgin Islands. In a triangular trade Denmark also got lots of sugar and rum out of the deal, and marketed firearms to Africa.

    With the revolution in Haiti, and the British Empire ending slavery in 1833, the jig was up for the slave trade by 1848, when it was abolished and slave owners in the Danish West Indies were paid reparations of $50 for each slave released. The slaves did not benefit very much as for the most part they continued to work for the same owners at minimum wage without benefits.

    Denmark put its now unprofitable Caribbean real estate on the market, but was not able to sell it until 1917 when the US stepped up to buy the impoverished islands for use as a possible naval base. As part of the Convention between the United States and Denmark for cession of the Danish West Indies, it was also agreed that Denmark could have the whole of Greenland., although now it looks like the US might be regretting that part of the deal.

    If there is anything else you wish to know about the high school history of Denmark, do not hesitate to ask.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    Knut was actually a clever guy who demonstrated the limits of his power. Sensibly, unlike Roman Emperor Babyboots when trumpeting his victory over Neptune.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caligula

  80. @R.G. Camara
    And yet you link to them. Instead of dropping their crap into archive.org and preventing them from getting viewers.

    You're part of the problem, Steve. You're helping them. They want you tortured, run out of town, and murdered, and you're giving them clicks. They already fired you from NR and forced you into begging for donations. And they won't stop until you're literally obliterated.

    Have you not seen Antifa assaulting anyone deemed not-commie, calling them Nazis? What do you think you are to them? And what do you think the NY Times is making its readers call you, by insinuation, association, and outright op-ed calumny?

    Wisen up. This is war. Act like it.

    Since everyone here can’t read properly, let me me spell it out for you all:

    And yet you link to them. Instead of dropping their crap into archive.org and preventing them from getting viewers.

    In other words, I’m not criticizing Steve for reading the NY Times. I’m criticizing him for linking to them directly instead of through archive.org. If he did the latter, the NY Times would lose clicks, and some of us wouldn’t get sucked in to reading the other articles on the NY Times website.

    They want you guys dead, and you guys can’t even be bothered to read properly. Pathetic.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    OK, fair enough. I don't know if Steve knows about this method. I sure didn't.
  81. @IHTG
    The executive order was allegedly slow-walked in USCIS. It's the reason Miller had Lee Francis Cissna thrown out of his job - to the outrage of the mainstream immigration restrictionist organizations and commentators like Ryan James Girdusky, I might add.

    It looks like Mr. Girdusky may have replied to this:

    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    R.G. Camara has now complained twice about providing clicks to the NYT rather than creating and linking to copies of their articles at archive.org, but without himself bothering to do the work involved to locate the appropriate link. I don't much worry about the clicks (someone upthread even suggests that they are a financial negative) but I do try to limit using up my limited access to free trips behind the paywalls of the NYT, WaPo, etc. So when the tweet you posted linked to a WaPo article on Miller ("The adviser who scripts Trump’s immigration policy" AUGUST 17, 2019) I copied the link and put it into outline.com, getting https://outline.com/k5DmY4 .

    This trick doesn't work for the NYT, as their lawyers have evidently written nastynotes to Outline, which doesn't process links to NYT articles. So I haven't yet read the one that Steve Sailer says is a hit piece. Can anyone provide the click-denying link to it?
  82. Kinda goes back to my argument about Trump not having the manpower for the Deputy Undersecretary of Interior Affairs positions that actually do all the work in any big institution (and having to rely on neocons).

    The whole ‘national conservatism’ boondoggle might actually bear some fruit if they can attract a few smart kids who might then staff a neo-Trump administration some time in the future.

    • Replies: @Marty T
    Yup. Long term we need a pipeline of Stephen Millers who can do their jobs without being attacked on all sides. The enemy controls the schools and the megaphone. What are we to do post Trump?
  83. The funny thing is, there are basically no facts in this article that make Miller look bad to an objective observer, there is just endless slanted verbiage.

    Sounds like a recent George Will column. About 750 words worth of insults.

  84. @Jonathan Mason

    It’s hard to imagine now but Denmark once was a maritime power
     
    From what I remember in secondary school history, King Canute was reputed to be up there with Moses in ability to turn harness wave power and set up his throne on the beach.

    When the Danes were Vikings they behaved very badly, then the Danes were Christianized around 965 by Harald Bluetooth, the inventor of wireless speakers, as a political move to placate the European Union, or Holy Roman Empire, as it was then known.

    The legend of the 12th century Prince Amleth of Denmark inspired English auteur Will Shakespeare to write a lengthy knock-off version about an indecisive ruler who pretends to be crazy by talking to a ghost. In the final scene the entire Danish royal family is wiped out when they accidentally drink poison, stab each other with poisoned swords, etc. and enact other political ruses typical of the time in which Shakespeare was writing.

    Later Denmark recovered and played an important role in the lucrative transatlantic human resources trade via its trading posts in what is now Ghana and in the Virgin Islands. In a triangular trade Denmark also got lots of sugar and rum out of the deal, and marketed firearms to Africa.

    With the revolution in Haiti, and the British Empire ending slavery in 1833, the jig was up for the slave trade by 1848, when it was abolished and slave owners in the Danish West Indies were paid reparations of $50 for each slave released. The slaves did not benefit very much as for the most part they continued to work for the same owners at minimum wage without benefits.

    Denmark put its now unprofitable Caribbean real estate on the market, but was not able to sell it until 1917 when the US stepped up to buy the impoverished islands for use as a possible naval base. As part of the Convention between the United States and Denmark for cession of the Danish West Indies, it was also agreed that Denmark could have the whole of Greenland., although now it looks like the US might be regretting that part of the deal.

    If there is anything else you wish to know about the high school history of Denmark, do not hesitate to ask.

    Knut was actually a clever guy who demonstrated the limits of his power. Sensibly, unlike Roman Emperor Babyboots when trumpeting his victory over Neptune.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caligula

  85. @Jack D

    Who owns Greenland? Norway Iceland Canada seals penguins vast schools of codfish?
     
    Denmark. It's hard to imagine now but Denmark once was a maritime power with an empire - sort of a minor league Britain. They sold us their Virgin Islands colony in 1917 for 25 million $. I think they got the better end of the deal.

    Did the Virgin Islands inhabitants agree to be “owned” by the USA in a plebiscite?

    If the answer is ‘no’, the sale was not valid.

    Does Trump think that the will of the Greenland’s inhabitants is irrelevant?

    If the answer is ‘yes’, then Trump is no better than any other of history’s many invaders.

    One question that no one seems to have considered: Why on earth would any region be stupid and insane enough to want to join up with a rapidly crumbling , dystopian empire like the US?

    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    What does the preferences of Virgin Islands inhabitants have to do with the validity of the transfer of possession from Denmark to the US? The validity of such arrangements comes from the mouths of cannon. You might ask residents of the former CSA about this.
  86. @Charles Erwin Wilson 3

    They sold us their Virgin Islands colony in 1917 for 25 million $. I think they got the better end of the deal.
     
    If we could give someone $25 M to take Puerto Rico off our hands we would get the better end of the deal.

    The American Virgin Islands are apparently now scary corrupt and violent.

    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    Of course the US Virgin Islands are scary corrupt and violent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Virgin_Islands#Ethnic_groups https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit#Race_and_ethnicity
  87. So, we’ve had a [somewhat] vaguely written federal statute enacted for the much better part of a quarter of a century, and it hasn’t been enforced bureaucratically because muh regulations? So, the Trump Administration does what the executive branch is charged with doing: it administers! In this case, it issues an executive order detailing how the law is to be enforced. Well, at least the public has been informed that two Democratic “administrations” failed to administer – ie. “take care that the laws be faithfully executed” in the words of the oath of office – no surprise there – and the loathsome Boosh 43 “No Illegal Left Behind” regime didn’t either – again no surprise to actual conservatives rather than Stinkin’ RINO’s, neo-cons, and other assorted nogoodnicks. Good to know!

  88. All Americans need to understand that there is no such thing as a random income tax audit. The IRS basically does what amounts to a “stop and frisk” on suspects that fit a profile. They look for business owners in particular and situations where the government stands a better than even chance to collect enough money to make it worth their wile to conduct an audit (read white men). The government does not need a search warrant and there are separate courts where the defendant does not have the benefit of a jury trial if things go sideways.

    If a citizen for any reason decides to conduct a tax protest and not pay his taxes to fund immigrants, both legal and illegal, he will be carted off to the local prison after paying his taxes and any fines. If he cannot pay, the government will seize his assets.

    The IRS uses high speed computers to cross check taxpayers and their SS# and tax ID# and if something does not match, they will drill in very quickly. If an illegal alien uses a fake SS# or Tax ID# they will look the other way.

    What illegals do, is claim 15 or 16 exemptions (what ever the max is) so very little is taken out of their paychecks. Yes, technically they did pay something but that is a fraction compared to what the average white taxpayer pays.

  89. @SFG
    Kinda goes back to my argument about Trump not having the manpower for the Deputy Undersecretary of Interior Affairs positions that actually do all the work in any big institution (and having to rely on neocons).

    The whole 'national conservatism' boondoggle might actually bear some fruit if they can attract a few smart kids who might then staff a neo-Trump administration some time in the future.

    Yup. Long term we need a pipeline of Stephen Millers who can do their jobs without being attacked on all sides. The enemy controls the schools and the megaphone. What are we to do post Trump?

  90. @Mr. Anon

    In case you haven’t noticed, many commenters’ civics education consists of having watched Mr. Smith Goes To Washington.
     
    Not many. There's a lot more cynicism here than you give credit for.

    By the way, my civics education consisted of having read I, Claudius

    A much better reference.

    “By the way, my civics education consisted of having read I, Claudius.”

    Continue your education by reading ‘Claudius The God.’ The vaunted Claudius, you see, goes on to commit all of the excesses he had so thoroughly condemned, only this time they sound perfectly reasonable. The second book doesn’t read quite as well, it is its juxtaposition to the first book that gives the second its impact.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    I have. Count Belisarius is also a good read, as indeed is anything by Graves.
  91. @Michelle
    Trump is Bernice in "Bernice Bobs Her Hair". If he ever does "Bob his hair/Build a wall", it will be disappointing and anticlimactic. The barbarian hordes will continue to storm our gates, overwhelm and destroy our culture and (previous) beautiful way of life.
    We are doomed, doomed, doomed, and there ain't a dang thing that we can do about it.

    “We are doomed, doomed, doomed, and there ain’t a dang thing that we can do about it.”

    Nothing we can do? Hardly. I, for one, plan to follow your righteous example of curling up into a ball and drowning in self-pity. Thanks for showing us the way, Ukrainian Troll Farmer!

  92. @R.G. Camara
    Since everyone here can't read properly, let me me spell it out for you all:

    And yet you link to them. Instead of dropping their crap into archive.org and preventing them from getting viewers.
     
    In other words, I'm not criticizing Steve for reading the NY Times. I'm criticizing him for linking to them directly instead of through archive.org. If he did the latter, the NY Times would lose clicks, and some of us wouldn't get sucked in to reading the other articles on the NY Times website.

    They want you guys dead, and you guys can't even be bothered to read properly. Pathetic.

    OK, fair enough. I don’t know if Steve knows about this method. I sure didn’t.

  93. @Diversity Heretic
    I used to work in a federal agency that, among other things, issued regulations. Thirty months isn't actually all that bad to get a final regulation, given the notice and comment procedure specified by the Administrative Procedures Act. What probably took time was developing a record that any disproportionate impact on immigrants from Africa, Latin America and the Mideast was incidental and not the intent of the regulation. I note that a number of states and the District of Columbia have already filed suit in northern California (9th Circuit) seeking to invalidate the new regulation on grounds of denial of equal protection. I rate the chances of obtaining an injunction suspending the operation of the rule at about 100% and the chances of its being upheld at the level of the 9th Circuit at about 99.9% So the court case will drag on until after the election at which point the Kamela Harris Administration will withdraw the regulation as part of its Open Borders initiative.

    Trump's colossal mistake, the one that defined his Administration, was his acquiescence in the court order that blocked his initial restrictions on Muslims entering the country. Had he pulled an Andrew Jackson and defied the courts, he would have been much more successful in restricting immigration and otherwise getting his agenda implemented. His inability to even slightly limit immigration shows that the problem is probably politically irresolvable.

    “Had he pulled an Andrew Jackson and defied the courts, he would have been much more successful in restricting immigration and otherwise getting his agenda implemented.”

    First, Trump is no Andrew Jackson. Second, Jackson’s action was illegal. Third, had Trump pulled that stunt, there would have been a sh-t storm of epic proportions on both sides, as it sets up a dangerous modern-day precedent. So, in all likelihood, he would have NOT been successful in accomplishing his goal. What he should be doing is getting off Twitter and working with both sides of the aisle for sensible legislation on the matter.

    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    "What [Trump] should be doing is getting off Twitter and working with both sides of the aisle for sensible legislation on the matter."

    Oh, yeah. That'll work. Naturally "the other side of the isle" will be all over, e.g., sensible legislation to control the Invasion.

    Trump was always a fraud, immigration-wise. He mouthed Coulter, but his policy proposal was a Big Beautiful Door in his Big Beautiful Wall, and Pence's loony Touchback Amnesty scheme. I didn't think it mattered as his demonization by the open borders types and the media (but I repeat myself) meant that his victory in the GOP primaries might move the Overton Window. Then he won the General and we had to deal with the reality of what he is.

    Still better than the alternatives. No, Rubio would NOT have been better. Sheesh.

    Anyway, enforcing rules against indigent immigrants is a small step. But, as with diverting military funds to building Wall it could have been done starting day#1 if Trump had thought his stated policies were as central to his election as his fan base. No sensible legislation is in the offing, but there's plenty of stuff already on the books that Trump can use if he wants to.

    And at some point the kritarchy will have to be defied, so get used to the idea. We'll find out whether it's legal or not when we find out who wins.
  94. @Ozymandias
    "By the way, my civics education consisted of having read I, Claudius."

    Continue your education by reading 'Claudius The God.' The vaunted Claudius, you see, goes on to commit all of the excesses he had so thoroughly condemned, only this time they sound perfectly reasonable. The second book doesn't read quite as well, it is its juxtaposition to the first book that gives the second its impact.

    I have. Count Belisarius is also a good read, as indeed is anything by Graves.

  95. @IHTG
    It looks like Mr. Girdusky may have replied to this:

    https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1163145812064559104

    R.G. Camara has now complained twice about providing clicks to the NYT rather than creating and linking to copies of their articles at archive.org, but without himself bothering to do the work involved to locate the appropriate link. I don’t much worry about the clicks (someone upthread even suggests that they are a financial negative) but I do try to limit using up my limited access to free trips behind the paywalls of the NYT, WaPo, etc. So when the tweet you posted linked to a WaPo article on Miller (“The adviser who scripts Trump’s immigration policy” AUGUST 17, 2019) I copied the link and put it into outline.com, getting https://outline.com/k5DmY4 .

    This trick doesn’t work for the NYT, as their lawyers have evidently written nastynotes to Outline, which doesn’t process links to NYT articles. So I haven’t yet read the one that Steve Sailer says is a hit piece. Can anyone provide the click-denying link to it?

  96. @Ahem
    Did the Virgin Islands inhabitants agree to be "owned" by the USA in a plebiscite?

    If the answer is 'no', the sale was not valid.

    Does Trump think that the will of the Greenland's inhabitants is irrelevant?

    If the answer is 'yes', then Trump is no better than any other of history's many invaders.

    One question that no one seems to have considered: Why on earth would any region be stupid and insane enough to want to join up with a rapidly crumbling , dystopian empire like the US?

    What does the preferences of Virgin Islands inhabitants have to do with the validity of the transfer of possession from Denmark to the US? The validity of such arrangements comes from the mouths of cannon. You might ask residents of the former CSA about this.

  97. @Steve Sailer
    The American Virgin Islands are apparently now scary corrupt and violent.
  98. @Corvinus
    "Had he pulled an Andrew Jackson and defied the courts, he would have been much more successful in restricting immigration and otherwise getting his agenda implemented."

    First, Trump is no Andrew Jackson. Second, Jackson's action was illegal. Third, had Trump pulled that stunt, there would have been a sh-t storm of epic proportions on both sides, as it sets up a dangerous modern-day precedent. So, in all likelihood, he would have NOT been successful in accomplishing his goal. What he should be doing is getting off Twitter and working with both sides of the aisle for sensible legislation on the matter.

    “What [Trump] should be doing is getting off Twitter and working with both sides of the aisle for sensible legislation on the matter.”

    Oh, yeah. That’ll work. Naturally “the other side of the isle” will be all over, e.g., sensible legislation to control the Invasion.

    Trump was always a fraud, immigration-wise. He mouthed Coulter, but his policy proposal was a Big Beautiful Door in his Big Beautiful Wall, and Pence’s loony Touchback Amnesty scheme. I didn’t think it mattered as his demonization by the open borders types and the media (but I repeat myself) meant that his victory in the GOP primaries might move the Overton Window. Then he won the General and we had to deal with the reality of what he is.

    Still better than the alternatives. No, Rubio would NOT have been better. Sheesh.

    Anyway, enforcing rules against indigent immigrants is a small step. But, as with diverting military funds to building Wall it could have been done starting day#1 if Trump had thought his stated policies were as central to his election as his fan base. No sensible legislation is in the offing, but there’s plenty of stuff already on the books that Trump can use if he wants to.

    And at some point the kritarchy will have to be defied, so get used to the idea. We’ll find out whether it’s legal or not when we find out who wins.

  99. Actually, there is a solid “bench” of policy-oriented intellectuals favoring immigration restriction. You can find many of them at “think tanks” such as the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), Negative Population Growth (NPG) the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), churning out high quality analysis, as well as at Numbers USA, which is one of the most effective lobbying institutions in Washington. Several of these groups have been given the ultimate honor, i.e. of being named “hate groups” by the SPLC. These are supported by independent academic analysts (e.g. George Borjas of the Harvard Kennedy School) and scores of people with policy experience.
    Regrettably, the incoming Trump administration did not rely heavily on this bench, with the sterling exception of Stephen Miller. Partly as a result, the administration has often been inconsistent. Trump himself says things such as that he will accept legal immigrants in ever increasing numbers, which probably made everybody mentioned above tear their hair out

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