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Via Google Translate from the German language Die Welt:

“Muslims in Germany are an asset”

Clear words from Wolfgang Schäuble:

Well, maybe not so clear in Google Translate, but clear enough …

The finance minister fears rather [i.e., more] the degeneration of German inbred as [i.e., than] an Islamization. Particularly a group of Muslim immigrants, he praises.

Federal Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble (CDU) rejected the partitioning of Europe against immigration. “The foreclosure is but what would make us broken, which could degenerate us in inbreeding,” he told the weekly ” Time “. “For us Muslims in Germany an enrichment of our openness and our diversity.” The show, the third generation of Turks in Germany, especially the women. “That is nevertheless an enormous innovatory potential!” Said Schäuble.

Herr Schäuble is currently sharing his wisdom at the 2016 Bilderberg Conference in Dresden.

As I explained in 2010:

The Bilderbergers are an invitation-only group of rich and powerful people who have been getting together secretly in expensive hotels since 1954 to discuss how to make the world a better place for rich and powerful people. Not surprisingly, the Bilderbergers are the subject of much conspiracy theorizing.

In recent years, they’ve been overshadowed by the Davos confab, which cleverly took the opposite tack: maximize publicity. Sure, it’s fun to secretly hang out with your fellow Bilderbergers, but it can be more fun to boast about your invitation to Davos. The Davos strategy is to invite journalists to lecture rich and powerful guys. The rich and powerful guys treat the journalists like peers with fascinating insights, then the journalists go home and write articles about how today’s crop of rich and powerful guys are so much more wonderful than you might think.

There is less conspiracy theorizing about Davos than Bilderberg because Davos hires platoons of PR flacks to tell everybody that, yes, the people who get invited to Davos do Run the World. So that takes all the fun out of it for the conspiracy theorists.

It appears the Bilderbergers may be slowly moving in the Davos direction [by posting the names of their invitees].

 
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  1. This Schäuble is quite a useless dumb Politiker.

    • Replies: @boogerbently
    @reiner Tor

    Muslims are already inbred.
    Mating with them "degenerates" a culture.

    , @boogerbently
    @reiner Tor

    OT
    But I just noticed Razib deleted my comment comparing him to Jayman about threatening to delete comments.
    I didn't know they could do that on UNZ, just their own blog.
    Which means we can't get a real feel for reactions to articles, because the author can delete the negative or contrary arguments.
    Pretty narcissistic.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Realist, @Anon, @AndrewR, @boogerbently

  2. Trolling?

    Did the “cuckservative” meme not make its way across the pond? There must be some awesome German word that says the same thing as cuckservative.

    The guy’s trolling us, right? I mean, the timing, man, the timing.

    • Replies: @Connecticut Famer
    @Hunsdon

    Yes he is. And you'd better believe that our "Ruling Class" is watching very carefully--and with one eye cocked to the stats which indicate the median age in the US of A is going up and up whilst the birthrate is going down, down.

    , @Connecticut Famer
    @Hunsdon

    Yes he is. And you'd better believe that our "Ruling Class" is watching very carefully--and with one eye cocked to the stats which indicate the median age in the US of A is going up and up whilst the birthrate is going down, down.

    , @Connecticut Famer
    @Hunsdon

    Yes he is. And you'd better believe that our "Ruling Class" is watching very carefully--and with one eye cocked to the stats which indicate the median age in the US of A is going up and up whilst the birthrate is going down, down.

    , @HateCuisine
    @Hunsdon

    Herr Schäuble definitely has great potential as a Cuck or a troller.

    The timing is impeccable.

    , @SFg
    @Hunsdon

    Of course not.

    But Google Translate for 'cuckold' gives me 'Hahnrei'. So my best attempt at 'cuckservative' would be Hahnrecht, since 'Konservador' no longer starts with the same letter.

    Any Germans? These things never work across cultures.

    , @fish
    @Hunsdon

    Eh....a guy whose dick hasn't worked since October of 1990 might look to the swarthy hordes of Syria to get the job done for him!

  3. Davos is said to actually be a mixture of public and private meetings, with much of the scheming being done at the private ones.

    • Replies: @Karl
    @Steve C

    >>> with much of the scheming being done at the private ones.

    call me a cynic. I believe that most of that "scheming" involves models and actresses, and other ambitious modern women who need to amortize their plastic surgery.


    If you have more money than brains - but still enough brains to know that (eg) ballooning around the world is a little ==too== SWPL..... then you can go to Davos, minlge with other SWPL, and probably get a (legal) defacto high-priced hooker

  4. TED talks serve the same function as Davos. Plus they have their own NPR radio show. And podcasts!

    • Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist
    @Hodag

    TED talks serve the same function as Davos

    So Davos is also a forum for childish, self-congratulatory SWPL bullshit?

    Replies: @tbraton

    , @NickG
    @Hodag

    Most TED talks are pretentious bollocks*.

    A word I'm determined should cross to the Western side of the Atlantic.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Reg Cæsar

  5. @Hunsdon
    Trolling?

    Did the "cuckservative" meme not make its way across the pond? There must be some awesome German word that says the same thing as cuckservative.

    The guy's trolling us, right? I mean, the timing, man, the timing.

    Replies: @Connecticut Famer, @Connecticut Famer, @Connecticut Famer, @HateCuisine, @SFg, @fish

    Yes he is. And you’d better believe that our “Ruling Class” is watching very carefully–and with one eye cocked to the stats which indicate the median age in the US of A is going up and up whilst the birthrate is going down, down.

  6. @Hunsdon
    Trolling?

    Did the "cuckservative" meme not make its way across the pond? There must be some awesome German word that says the same thing as cuckservative.

    The guy's trolling us, right? I mean, the timing, man, the timing.

    Replies: @Connecticut Famer, @Connecticut Famer, @Connecticut Famer, @HateCuisine, @SFg, @fish

    Yes he is. And you’d better believe that our “Ruling Class” is watching very carefully–and with one eye cocked to the stats which indicate the median age in the US of A is going up and up whilst the birthrate is going down, down.

  7. @Hunsdon
    Trolling?

    Did the "cuckservative" meme not make its way across the pond? There must be some awesome German word that says the same thing as cuckservative.

    The guy's trolling us, right? I mean, the timing, man, the timing.

    Replies: @Connecticut Famer, @Connecticut Famer, @Connecticut Famer, @HateCuisine, @SFg, @fish

    Yes he is. And you’d better believe that our “Ruling Class” is watching very carefully–and with one eye cocked to the stats which indicate the median age in the US of A is going up and up whilst the birthrate is going down, down.

  8. Coudenhove-Kalergi here we come!

    Instead of La Raza Cosmica being born in Mexico, it will be born in Germany!

  9. Off-topic – playing cards with alt-right people.

    I hope they have Steve Sailer and Mark Steyn in there somewhere.

    On-topic:

    Ha. It’s the rapefugee darlings themselves who are already inbred and have been doing so for a thousand years or more. It’s they who would benefit from breaking the in-breeding cycle, though I doubt there is any benefit for the posterity of the unfortunate German involved.

    Maybe this stupid declaration of Schauble can open the door to the public being informed about the breeding habits of their new pets.

  10. Can’t anybody here look on the bright side?

    A major Euro leader is thinking HBD-like.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @anony-mouse

    That's a comparable victory to when Jared Diamond conceded to group differences to IQ, proposing that New Guineans were more intelligent than Europeans.

    BTW Schäuble is not thinking hbd-like. It's the dumb "interracial marriage is beneficial because inbreeding" type reasoning all over again. Nothing "hbd-like" about it.

    Replies: @SFG, @helena

    , @Olorin
    @anony-mouse

    No, thinking HBD-like would be recognizing that all inbreeding isn't equal. In humans any more than in, say, Holstein-Friesian cows.

    But maybe he's one of the Deutscher horsy set (he's not) who thinks that all things biological are improved with Arab intermixing. Since, you know, some German breeds of horses have been. You know, entirely on their own. Throw em all together. It all works out. Somehow.

    Readers unfamiliar with the "cousin marriage conundrum" might start here:

    https://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/cousin-marriage-conundrum-addendum/

  11. I see that Charles Murray was among the Bilderberg attendees.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    @Glossy

    "I see that Charles Murray was among the Bilderberg attendees."

    If he keeps on turning up his nose at Trump, they might invite him next year, too.

    On topic (inbreeding), the Born In Bradford website may be of interest to Steve and others, everything is referenced.

    http://www.borninbradford.nhs.uk/research-scientific/cohort-study/


    "The majority of Pakistani mothers were related to their partner and there was evidence that consanguinity provided social and health benefits to the mother but also increased risk of congenital anomalies for the infant. Using BiB data we have shown that rates of congenital anomalies were twice as common in Bradford compared with UK as a whole and that Pakistani origin and consanguineous unions were strong risk factors"
     
    , @rod1963
    @Glossy

    It's not surprising. Murray is pretty much a old school elitist who has more in common ideologically with the globalists and race replacement doyens than your average American - whom he has no use for.

    And he has no children, hence no skin in the game.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  12. If Germany, a country of 80 (?) million people is worried about the destructive effects of “in-breeding,” what about Israel with its roughly 6 million Jews, who have been ostensibly in-breeding for thousands of years?

    • Agree: fish
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @tbraton

    Judging from the photos taken of so-called "settlers" as they take potshots at Palestinians, the results are in...

    These are not the Jews which were the intellectual cornerstones of math and physics in Europe before "European Suicide Pact, Part II" went into action.

  13. >Without Muslim Immigration, Germans Could Degenerate Via Inbreeding<

    haven't they been doing that for the last 500 + years? so i say proggtard projection in this statement.

  14. “Cousin Marriage”

  15. @Hunsdon
    Trolling?

    Did the "cuckservative" meme not make its way across the pond? There must be some awesome German word that says the same thing as cuckservative.

    The guy's trolling us, right? I mean, the timing, man, the timing.

    Replies: @Connecticut Famer, @Connecticut Famer, @Connecticut Famer, @HateCuisine, @SFg, @fish

    Herr Schäuble definitely has great potential as a Cuck or a troller.

    The timing is impeccable.

  16. This seems like people are inventing completely non-existent problems for mass Muslim immigration will solve as a contorted rationalization.

    Does Japan with their harsh anti-immigration homogeneous single ethnicity nation state have problems with inbreeding? Is there any evidence or measure of the damage caused?

    So, there was some problem with Jewish inbreeding in Jewish ghettos in Europe. That has vanished in recent history. Other than that most of France, for example, has had a fairly stable ethnic mix with very minimal mass migration until recently. Was inbreeding a problem there?

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Massimo Heitor

    Everyone who thinks Japan is strongly anti-immigration is in for a big disappointment. Visa rules have been loosened. The Abe government wants more cheap labor and babies, related to its plan to inflate the country into prosperity.

    (Another aspect of that plan is revving up their military-industrial complex. Hence, Abe will be recognized in the future as the Invade/Invite PM.)

    As we all know, immigration is an irreversible game-changer. Like the Korean population, nobody will have the balls to send them packing in the future. There are already noticably more South/SE Asians in my town than when I moved to Japan.

    Issues people don't realize about immigration:

    1- Japan has avoided a lot of bad int'l press about its lack of immigrants precisely because of its lack of immigrants. What propelled the news stories that propelled the Syrian migrant crisis? Photos of dead babies and migrants demanding things and acting happy to arrive in Europe. Without those photos, there would have been no big push by the state to let the migrants in. In Japan, there aren't enough immigrants yet to create big int'l immigrant news. It's waiting for a critical mass. Japan is famously resistant to int'l pressure, but we'll see. No Japanese I know could think of a defense for killing dolphins or whales. They were embarrassed to be outside the int'l consensus. So who protects these practices? The Japanese elites who run Japan for their own benefit. But if those elites conclude immigration is good for business, bye bye Japan.

    2- Except for the handful of foreigners that post on iSteve, foreigners in Japan are pro-immigration. They are constantly aggitating with their Japanese friends/family/co-workers in favor of looser visa rules, more ethnic restaurants, etc. Obviously, over time and with larger numbers of foreigners, this will have some impact.

    Replies: @anon

  17. @anony-mouse
    Can't anybody here look on the bright side?

    A major Euro leader is thinking HBD-like.

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Olorin

    That’s a comparable victory to when Jared Diamond conceded to group differences to IQ, proposing that New Guineans were more intelligent than Europeans.

    BTW Schäuble is not thinking hbd-like. It’s the dumb “interracial marriage is beneficial because inbreeding” type reasoning all over again. Nothing “hbd-like” about it.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @reiner Tor

    Only if you consider 'HBD' to specifically mean 'politically incorrect stuff liberals don't want to talk about'. That's *part* of HBD, sure...

    The strengths and weaknesses of outbreeding and inbreeding are part of HBD. I don't think the Germans are getting such great alleles right now though.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    , @helena
    @reiner Tor

    "BTW Schäuble is not thinking hbd-like."

    This is not the first time a concept popular in US 'resistance to neoliberalism' circles has appeared in Europe but twisted to mean the opposite. I've heard similar with the term libertarianism, which isn't an ideology espoused in UK but has been 'outed' as a 'fraudulent' ideology by liberal public commenters. Perhaps the EU really are worried about the Trump phenomonon, much like European royal houses were worried by the French and US revolutions at the beginning of the 19th century.

    But the neoliberals are very good at word games that put the Alt-Right onto the defensive. To which the only reply can be...

    Sixth Cousin = Sixth Sense!

  18. @Hunsdon
    Trolling?

    Did the "cuckservative" meme not make its way across the pond? There must be some awesome German word that says the same thing as cuckservative.

    The guy's trolling us, right? I mean, the timing, man, the timing.

    Replies: @Connecticut Famer, @Connecticut Famer, @Connecticut Famer, @HateCuisine, @SFg, @fish

    Of course not.

    But Google Translate for ‘cuckold’ gives me ‘Hahnrei’. So my best attempt at ‘cuckservative’ would be Hahnrecht, since ‘Konservador’ no longer starts with the same letter.

    Any Germans? These things never work across cultures.

  19. Speaking of inbreeding, is “German” Finance Minister Schnäuble a dumbkopf, or is he simply ignorant of the ubiquity of Moslem clan-centric cousin marriage?

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Auntie Analogue

    I am always amazed that quite often, people who consider themselves very liberal, the open-minded (such a stupid expression), almost keep blinders on when it comes to most people from MENA. It is kinda' a "la-la-la-la-laa" with fingers in their ears when cousin marriage, multiple wives (marriages that are not recorded in Europe - to get "single mother status"); clitorectomies of prepubescent girls, various types of deadly Slut Shaming, forced marriage come to play. European men and women in political power are just left speechless since all that grotesque behavior would not be allowed in their own fracking family.

    , @Olorin
    @Auntie Analogue

    Auntie, Schäuble and his entire family--siblings, wife, four offspring--live a rarefied and closed-circle existence in the power broker echelons of Germany and Europe.

    At his 70th birthday party, the "deliverers of the keynote speeches" were Angela Merkel, the head of his party, in which he's been a leader since the 1990s, and whose apron strings he's held for at least 35 years, and IMF big mahoff*** Christine Lagarde.

    Which has got to be the dictionary definition of "snoretastic wankfest." (Should I live to 70, festivities will involve a feral pig hunt in Texas, an artisan aquavit taste-off, and a Rory Gallagher air guitar contest.)

    I poked around in Schäuble"s family and political history. Apparently in his family they don't feel a need to marry cousins--or outside their genetics. But that's the Rx for the rest of Germans.

    Schäuble identifies himself as an evangelical Lutheran.

    https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wolfgang-schaeuble.de%2F&edit-text=

    Nothing like modern-day Protestants for throwing open the gates of Vienna. "Come in, ye Least Of These My Brethren, in Jesus' name! Have some food, some housing, some medical care, our women, yea verily, our genetics! For we are sinners and must expiate our sin."

    Through, oddly, works.

    There's more about Schäuble...but let me rest the keys and your eyes now.

    ***"Big mahoff" as used in Philadelphia. Not implying Lagarde is (((Yiddishly inclined))). She is reported in Wikipedia as being a Roman Catholic and "health-conscious vegetarian who rarely drinks alcohol,...Lagarde's hobbies include regular trips to the gym, cycling, and swimming."

  20. @Hodag
    TED talks serve the same function as Davos. Plus they have their own NPR radio show. And podcasts!

    Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist, @NickG

    TED talks serve the same function as Davos

    So Davos is also a forum for childish, self-congratulatory SWPL bullshit?

    • Replies: @tbraton
    @yaqub the mad scientist

    I believe Elizabeth Holmes of Theranos fame is planning on giving a Ted talk of how to go from an estimated net worth of $4 billion to zero in a few short months.

    Replies: @Anon, @Njguy73, @candid_observer

  21. Group of 150 very very wealthy white people meeting secretly to discuss imposing their vision upon half this planet: acceptable, no real MSM inquiries, military-grade security, no infiltration by SPLC-spies, no Soros-funded protesters.

    Group of 150 middle-class whites meeting secretly to discuss legally attempting to help uplift lower-class whites out of poverty: unacceptable, MSM slander, no state security provided, SPLC-infiltrators (amongst other groups I’d imagine), attempted career and social damage, possibly Soros-funded protesters.

  22. The idea that importing immigrants will help increase fertility rates is not going to be borne out empirically. It hasn’t worked in the USA, for example, which currently has a TFR of 1.9 despite massive Hispanic immigration.

    When you think about it, mass migrations aren’t very conducive to increasing populations, as the latter requires stability and mass migration is both a symptom and a cause of instability. There are not going to be many babies born in Germany’s refugee centers, because there are few women and few intact family units there. There aren’t going to be many babies born in Syria because many of the young men have ran off and the country is devastated by war. And notwithstanding the entirely appropriate moniker “rapefugees,” German girls are not going to have children with Syrian migrants. They don’t want to date them or marry them, they don’t want to bear their children, and good luck getting a women to carry a child to term if, God forbid, she is raped in a country with emergency contraception and legalized abortion.

    Urbanized people have never been very good at reproducing themselves, and drawing in human matter from the four corners of the earth only forestalls the problem. Merkel’s Boner is accelerating the demographic winter.

    As an aside, how many babies would you guess are not being born right now in Latin America, with Venezuela in a free fall, Brazil cracking up, Zika virus rampant, Antipope Francis blazing through and dog-whistling that “birth control may be acceptable in some cases,” and many of the young people of marriageable age having already split the scene for the USA, where they will conform to the latter’s sub-replacement birthrate within a generation?

    • Replies: @Romanian
    @Intelligent Dasein

    So what Africa needs to lower birthrates is a good war to keep people on their toes instead of spreading their legs? It doesn't really sound correct to me. Gaza has huge birthrates, it's how they go to war.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Marcus, @cwhatfuture

    , @Anonymous
    @Intelligent Dasein

    The late Lawrence Auster argued that drastically reducing immigration would improve the native birth rate.

    According to Auster:


    Immigration... has psychological effects that tend to lower the native birthrate. As Virginia Abernethy has argued in Population Politics, fertility rises when people feel hopeful about the future, and declines when they are pessimistic about the future. It is a remarkable fact that women emigrating from Third-World countries to the United States, where they perceive that their prospects are much improved, have more children than their countrywomen who stay at home. Conversely, whites in an increasingly Third-World America, where they foresee a less promising future for themselves and their children, are having fewer children than they would otherwise have done.
     
    , @AndrewR
    @Intelligent Dasein

    "German girls are not going to have children with Syrian migrants. They don’t want to date them or marry them, they don’t want to bear their children, "

    cite

    , @Intelligent Dasein
    @Intelligent Dasein

    As an addendum to my earlier post, we have news that the American baby bust continues.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/baby-bust-2015-had-lowest-u.s.-fertility-rate-ever-down-600000-births/article/2593554

    The above article was on Drudge earlier, but it's gone now.

  23. Germans with their mass injection of slav genes in 1945 plus plenty of contemporary exogamy with Scandinavians, French. British, Italians, Poles, and American servicemen are really not in danger of being inbred.

    It’s simply projection, as is typical among certain ethnicities and higher classes.

  24. If anyone cares the Syrians, unlike the Germans, were members of the Hellenic and Roman world. So there.

    • Replies: @gruff
    @George

    That's actually an interesting historical detail. Also recall that Frederick Barbarossa died in Turkey on the way to the Third Crusade, which took place partly in Syria.

    , @SFG
    @George

    Yup. Remember, the Anatolian peninsula (now Turkey) and Egypt used to be Christian (the patriarchs of Alexandria and Antioch were among the original five.) Christianity gained Europe and lost the Middle East. I'd actually call it a pretty good trade. ( Not so hot for the Copts, I admit.)

    Replies: @reiner Tor

  25. ANTI-SEMITISM!!!

    The German Finance Minister is implying that Jews, who are far more inbred than Germans, are degenerate.

    • Replies: @Dirk Dagger
    @Svigor

    Jorma Kaukonen is Jewish? Who knew?

    Replies: @Wanderer, @ben tillman, @Reg Cæsar

  26. Can’t anybody here look on the bright side?

    A major Euro leader is thinking HBD-like.

    Might’ve had a chance at funny if it was the 80th comment, instead of the 8th.

  27. You know stuff is getting out of hands when high ranking German officials start waxing poetic about the benefits of eugenics.

    • Replies: @Jeff
    @Arclight

    Nicely done. You win one internet.

    , @bomag
    @Arclight

    Zing!

    Is it that things are getting out of hand... or are things getting back on track?

    Replies: @Arclight

  28. “Muslims in Germany are an asset”

    Germany sets the bar extremely low at what they consider to be an asset. The only requirements to be considered an asset to Germany is be a Nonwhite person with a working pulse. The Nonwhite does not have to belong to the talented tenth of their ethnic group to be an asset to that country, hence the disproportionate number of Nonwhites in Germany who live on welfare.

  29. So you’re going to fix your supposed inbreeding problem by bringing in people with a penchant for cousin marriage? It makes sense if you dont think about it, I guess..

  30. How does it feel? Knowing that you have lost and will never be in power again?

    • Replies: @biz
    @Tiny Duck

    Who 'lost' and is out of power? Weren't you just claiming yesterday that white privilege was real?

    Replies: @Alfa158

    , @Lagertha
    @Tiny Duck

    my God, you are so boring. Could YOU just get lost? Go away. You are, obviously low IQ, with no game since you always seem to hang around here. Life is short.

    , @Dirk Dagger
    @Tiny Duck

    My Five Best Jefferson Airplane songs:
    1. "Somebody to Love” From: ‘Surrealistic Pillow’ (1967)
    2. "White Rabbit” From: ‘Surrealistic Pillow’ (1967)
    3. "Volunteers” From: ‘Volunteers’ (1969)
    4. "Good Shepherd” From: ‘Volunteers’ (1969)
    5. "Wooden Ships" From: ‘Volunteers’ (1969)

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Jeff
    @Tiny Duck

    As best as I can tell, you've lost pretty much every argument you've started here at unz. So, tell us, how does it feel?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    , @fish
    @Tiny Duck


    How does it feel? Knowing that you have lost and will never be in power again?
     
    Yes, yes....we're out of power...again. Now you can retreat back to moms basement to successfully "rub one out".

    Jeez Tiny at least try and be entertaining occasionally!
  31. Deutschland will be saved by spicing up ze gene pool mit der semitical jizzenschlingers. Ja, mein sister is looking forward to zis, how do you say, boner-blitzkrieg.

  32. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Ha. It’s the rapefugee darlings themselves who are already inbred and have been doing so for a thousand years or more. It’s they who would benefit from breaking the in-breeding cycle, though I doubt there is any benefit for the posterity of the unfortunate German involved.”

    You express my thoughts of late.

    It’s obvious that the leading lights in the West, in advocating importing and assimilating millions of backwards Muslims have decided that the only way to bring them out of the Dark Ages is by interbreeding them with we Europeans. Of course they can’t express it that way, so they simply keep the sentence structure the same but reverse all the terms, telling us that it is we who stand to benefit.

    The problem is that there are not enough Europeans to raise the IQ of the teeming billions of African and Islamic morons. Our good traits will be obliterated long before their collective IQs move five points.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @anonymous

    A few million European men could easily keep every fertile woman on earth pregnant from puberty until menopause.

  33. The most upvoted comments on that Welt article are all solidly against Schäuble’s little opinion.

  34. @George
    If anyone cares the Syrians, unlike the Germans, were members of the Hellenic and Roman world. So there.

    Replies: @gruff, @SFG

    That’s actually an interesting historical detail. Also recall that Frederick Barbarossa died in Turkey on the way to the Third Crusade, which took place partly in Syria.

  35. @yaqub the mad scientist
    @Hodag

    TED talks serve the same function as Davos

    So Davos is also a forum for childish, self-congratulatory SWPL bullshit?

    Replies: @tbraton

    I believe Elizabeth Holmes of Theranos fame is planning on giving a Ted talk of how to go from an estimated net worth of $4 billion to zero in a few short months.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @tbraton

    I doubt she's poor. Anyone who consciously intends to commit fraud would be quietly selling off Theranos stock a long time before the big blow up. I bet she's solidly invested in blue chips by now. Scoundrels are resourceful and tend to land on their feet. She's also made a lot of contacts among the 1%, a few of whom might be inclined to do her a few financial favors. All those people who sat on the Theranos board got nice salaries for doing so, and they're not likely to have a grudge against her for lining their pockets, even if it was only temporary. It's the shareholders who were wrecked by her.

    Who knows? In twenty years, she may be sitting on a lot of boards herself thanks to her contacts.

    , @Njguy73
    @tbraton

    Lose $4 billion?

    Like our elite need to learn how to do that.

    Congress does that and calls it " a typical Tuesday."

    , @candid_observer
    @tbraton

    It's actually quite a feat, to make $4B disappear into nothingness in a few months.

    Has this ever happened before, I wonder? I just don't know how it would be possible, except by some extraordinary fraud, and I can't think of a fraud of this magnitude. Or maybe in a stock market crash? But to lose over a billion dollars?

    Can anybody else think of comparable examples?

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Cwhatfuture, @SolontoCroesus, @Hodag, @tbraton, @Anonymous

  36. You would think that Germans would have learned to leave the questions of eugenics severely alone.

    The last time they tried to get a handle on the subject, 75 years ago or so, they very nearly destroyed themselves. Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble views, if taken up, will surely do the same, albeit by causing them to slew wildly in the opposite direction and vanish as a people.

    Look, you volk are just not very good at this. The rest of us will decide if you’ve lost all your commonsense—which you appear to do periodically—and let you know.

    This is one of those times. Just ease up on the mad immigration and you’ll be ok, awright?

    • Replies: @SFG
    @PiltdownMan

    They seem to be figuring it out on their own. Look how unpopular Merkel is getting.

    I do admit common sense is not among the Germans' many quite notable strengths.

    , @anon
    @PiltdownMan

    A that good old pathologizing narrative. How has "common sense" worked for American and British immigration?

    , @Joe Sweet
    @PiltdownMan


    You would think that Germans would have learned to leave the questions of eugenics severely alone.

    The last time they tried to get a handle on the subject, 75 years ago or so, they very nearly destroyed themselves.
     
    Ah, pretty sure it was the merciless dropping of bombs, followed by mass murder and other atrocities by the Allied forces that "nearly destroyed" the Germans.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

  37. @Tiny Duck
    How does it feel? Knowing that you have lost and will never be in power again?

    Replies: @biz, @Lagertha, @Dirk Dagger, @Jeff, @fish

    Who ‘lost’ and is out of power? Weren’t you just claiming yesterday that white privilege was real?

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @biz

    To be precise he was saying White Supremacy is real, not White privilege, although given the other stuff he writes I'm a little surprised he thinks the White race is supreme.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  38. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @tbraton
    @yaqub the mad scientist

    I believe Elizabeth Holmes of Theranos fame is planning on giving a Ted talk of how to go from an estimated net worth of $4 billion to zero in a few short months.

    Replies: @Anon, @Njguy73, @candid_observer

    I doubt she’s poor. Anyone who consciously intends to commit fraud would be quietly selling off Theranos stock a long time before the big blow up. I bet she’s solidly invested in blue chips by now. Scoundrels are resourceful and tend to land on their feet. She’s also made a lot of contacts among the 1%, a few of whom might be inclined to do her a few financial favors. All those people who sat on the Theranos board got nice salaries for doing so, and they’re not likely to have a grudge against her for lining their pockets, even if it was only temporary. It’s the shareholders who were wrecked by her.

    Who knows? In twenty years, she may be sitting on a lot of boards herself thanks to her contacts.

  39. IRONY ALERT

    To solve Germany’s German problem of “inbreeding,” a German public official is endorsing importing people who are known for having a culture of close cousin breeding and tight endogamy.

    • Replies: @Njguy73
    @countenance

    Muslims have always had cousin marriage.

    Muslims have never had cousin marriage.

  40. @reiner Tor
    This Schäuble is quite a useless dumb Politiker.

    Replies: @boogerbently, @boogerbently

    Muslims are already inbred.
    Mating with them “degenerates” a culture.

  41. @PiltdownMan
    You would think that Germans would have learned to leave the questions of eugenics severely alone.

    The last time they tried to get a handle on the subject, 75 years ago or so, they very nearly destroyed themselves. Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble views, if taken up, will surely do the same, albeit by causing them to slew wildly in the opposite direction and vanish as a people.

    Look, you volk are just not very good at this. The rest of us will decide if you've lost all your commonsense—which you appear to do periodically—and let you know.

    This is one of those times. Just ease up on the mad immigration and you'll be ok, awright?

    Replies: @SFG, @anon, @Joe Sweet

    They seem to be figuring it out on their own. Look how unpopular Merkel is getting.

    I do admit common sense is not among the Germans’ many quite notable strengths.

  42. They’d end up like Israel!

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    @Pagoda


    They’d end up like Israel!
     
    Since German Jews built the framework for Hebrew culture in Palestine on a model of German institutions and even German town planning, if Germany ends up like Israel, it will be like Germany.
  43. @George
    If anyone cares the Syrians, unlike the Germans, were members of the Hellenic and Roman world. So there.

    Replies: @gruff, @SFG

    Yup. Remember, the Anatolian peninsula (now Turkey) and Egypt used to be Christian (the patriarchs of Alexandria and Antioch were among the original five.) Christianity gained Europe and lost the Middle East. I’d actually call it a pretty good trade. ( Not so hot for the Copts, I admit.)

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @SFG

    While Greg Clark proposes that MENA Christians got their smarts via selective attrition (i.e. poor Christians being unable to afford the jizya and so converting), Greg Cochran disagrees:


    I don’t consider selective attrition impossible, but since know that there are endogamous ethnoreligious groups in the Middle East that sure seem to be as bright as the European average (Maronites, Assyrian Christians, Iraqi Jews, etc), that were hill farmers rather than some sort of commercial elite, and that differ genetically from the general population of the Middle East (more like the Middle East used to be), maybe we don’t need two explanations when one (some groups simply stayed the same) staying the same) will do.
     

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Reg Cæsar, @Marcus

  44. THIS GUY’S SPOT ON! Inbreeding was such a problem in Germany when it was populated entirely by white Germans that by 100 yrs ago, that the nation had basically turned itself into a desert from the incompetence of the farmers there. The people who could afford it, were riding around on camels (Camels! When the car was being produced here in the US). Most were homeless bedouins, roaming around cutting each other’s heads off for a cup of water. They even had a culture where it was acceptable to marry young girls under 12! Multiple wives at that! Wolfgang Schäuble is absolutely right- the Muslims will definitely help to bring these inbred dirt farmers into the 21st century, with their peaceful lifestyle, their technological achievements, their acceptance of alternative religions, their ability to assimilate, their modern understanding of the role of women in society… the list goes on and on.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Grandpa Jack

    And didn't those Germans prefer using their left hand to wipe themselves over toilet paper? Disgusting. Truly, they have much to learn from these new arrivals.

    , @anon
    @Grandpa Jack

    Excellent post. And you are bang on. The Arabs will turn Germany from a backward, impoverished, technologically inferior, illiterate third world country into a modern middle east state. Oh Wait a minute..,....

  45. @reiner Tor
    This Schäuble is quite a useless dumb Politiker.

    Replies: @boogerbently, @boogerbently

    OT
    But I just noticed Razib deleted my comment comparing him to Jayman about threatening to delete comments.
    I didn’t know they could do that on UNZ, just their own blog.
    Which means we can’t get a real feel for reactions to articles, because the author can delete the negative or contrary arguments.
    Pretty narcissistic.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @boogerbently

    The structure of commenting and censoring here on Unz is not conducive to active give and take between commenters. We're all spokes of the author's wheel.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @PiltdownMan

    , @Realist
    @boogerbently

    Razib is most definitely a narcissistic little fuck. He has his cadre of hangers on who comment on his posts.

    , @Anon
    @boogerbently

    Jayman and Razib are both young guys, and that's a young guy thing. When you get older and gain more confidence in your own ideas and opinions, and less prone to blowing up about everything, you become more inclined to tolerate contrary opinions in your personal space.

    Replies: @boogerbently, @Mark2

    , @AndrewR
    @boogerbently

    Yeah, both of them are special snowflakes who need safe spaces to avoid being triggered by dissent. I don't bother with either one. They're a discredit to this site.

    , @boogerbently
    @boogerbently

    Then my comment stating UNZ should control which comments get deleted, got deleted.
    Sad.

    Replies: @Thea

  46. @reiner Tor
    @anony-mouse

    That's a comparable victory to when Jared Diamond conceded to group differences to IQ, proposing that New Guineans were more intelligent than Europeans.

    BTW Schäuble is not thinking hbd-like. It's the dumb "interracial marriage is beneficial because inbreeding" type reasoning all over again. Nothing "hbd-like" about it.

    Replies: @SFG, @helena

    Only if you consider ‘HBD’ to specifically mean ‘politically incorrect stuff liberals don’t want to talk about’. That’s *part* of HBD, sure…

    The strengths and weaknesses of outbreeding and inbreeding are part of HBD. I don’t think the Germans are getting such great alleles right now though.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @SFG

    Inbreeding vs. outbreeding in the hbd sense means "marrying your first cousin vs. marrying someone from the next village" (roughly Steve's words), and not marrying dumb third worlders, much less accepting millions of inbred third worlders into your own country. The latter is part of the mainstream, but is totally incorrect, and so not part of hbd or any other field of scientific inquiry.

  47. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Kind of an ironic thing to say since Muslims, especially Arabs and Pakistanis, are among the biggest first cousin marriage types. They have inbreeding down to an art from. Seems to me Germany has survived just fine without ‘needing’ low I.Q. Arabs for “breeding”. Guess those beer festival rapefugess were just helping out their German host by sharing some DNA with the Frauleins.

  48. Blogger David Lindsay had a good comment about Bilderberg meeting:

    “Princess Margaret said that Débutantes’ Balls had been cancelled because “every tart in London was getting in”. See this year’s list of Bilderberg attendees.”

  49. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    No need to go outside Europe, there are plenty of potential DNA donors right on the continent who are not German. They always keep switching the reasons. What’s the real reason? What’s really behind all this? Everybody has been guessing, coming up with plausible explanations, but still it’s a guess.

  50. @SFG
    @reiner Tor

    Only if you consider 'HBD' to specifically mean 'politically incorrect stuff liberals don't want to talk about'. That's *part* of HBD, sure...

    The strengths and weaknesses of outbreeding and inbreeding are part of HBD. I don't think the Germans are getting such great alleles right now though.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    Inbreeding vs. outbreeding in the hbd sense means “marrying your first cousin vs. marrying someone from the next village” (roughly Steve’s words), and not marrying dumb third worlders, much less accepting millions of inbred third worlders into your own country. The latter is part of the mainstream, but is totally incorrect, and so not part of hbd or any other field of scientific inquiry.

  51. There is a slight problem with the plan. The Syrians would be happy to take German women. But they won’t let Germans touch their daughters or sisters. That is against Islam (not against Islam for the Muslim man to take a Christian wife). That is going to produce some frustrated German men (but not Syrian women, as the Syrians will take multiple wives).

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Cwhatfuture


    But they won’t let Germans touch their daughters or sisters.
     
    What self-respecting German would even want to? They're not covered up to hide their attractiveness.

    Replies: @AndrewR

  52. @SFG
    @George

    Yup. Remember, the Anatolian peninsula (now Turkey) and Egypt used to be Christian (the patriarchs of Alexandria and Antioch were among the original five.) Christianity gained Europe and lost the Middle East. I'd actually call it a pretty good trade. ( Not so hot for the Copts, I admit.)

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    While Greg Clark proposes that MENA Christians got their smarts via selective attrition (i.e. poor Christians being unable to afford the jizya and so converting), Greg Cochran disagrees:

    I don’t consider selective attrition impossible, but since know that there are endogamous ethnoreligious groups in the Middle East that sure seem to be as bright as the European average (Maronites, Assyrian Christians, Iraqi Jews, etc), that were hill farmers rather than some sort of commercial elite, and that differ genetically from the general population of the Middle East (more like the Middle East used to be), maybe we don’t need two explanations when one (some groups simply stayed the same) staying the same) will do.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @reiner Tor

    This means the Middle East was worth more 2000 years ago than it is today, so its loss was a great loss, and not just for Christianity but for the whole of mankind as well.

    Replies: @Cwhatfuture

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @reiner Tor

    Christianity, Roman and Eastern, strongly discouraged consanguine marriages. Islam did not. That would make a big difference over the centuries.

    The only direct comparison I've seen showed that among Palestinians, Moslems out-inbred Christians 29% to 16%. And those figures are likely respectively low and high for their faiths.

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Nico

    , @Marcus
    @reiner Tor

    I think it's the opposite in most cases: the native elites were more likely to convert to keep their status and they were probably the most desired converts as well.

  53. The ostensibly “serious” media – NPR, The Times, The Washington Post, and the news and opinion mags – have really revealed themselves to be co-opted. One would think that an international confab of the richest and most power people in the world (and/or their hirelings) like Bilderberg or Davos, would be considered rather important and news-worthy. But the media pays them virtually no mind. Nothing to see here – why do you ask? You must be some kind of nut.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    The Guardian pays some attention to Bilderberg, because it's a center-right thing.

  54. @boogerbently
    @reiner Tor

    OT
    But I just noticed Razib deleted my comment comparing him to Jayman about threatening to delete comments.
    I didn't know they could do that on UNZ, just their own blog.
    Which means we can't get a real feel for reactions to articles, because the author can delete the negative or contrary arguments.
    Pretty narcissistic.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Realist, @Anon, @AndrewR, @boogerbently

    The structure of commenting and censoring here on Unz is not conducive to active give and take between commenters. We’re all spokes of the author’s wheel.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @anonymous

    duh, get over it. Sometimes in life, you have no control...or you are not so special...or...ha, ha - thank goodness Steve does not outsource his blog to some idgits! Have fun or go home! Only the strong survive.

    Replies: @neutral

    , @PiltdownMan
    @anonymous


    We’re all spokes of the author’s wheel.
     


    That's the point. Unz, who has major credentials in infotech, built it this way. Prevents the long flame wars (to use a now nearly extinct term) and hugely reduces the 24/7 policing burden on the bloggers.

    It's good to see an intelligently designed, purpose built comments section.

    True online give and take is a chimera. This is because humans don't converse that way when they have the protection of anonymity and absolute protection from personal harm, as they do online.
  55. @reiner Tor
    @SFG

    While Greg Clark proposes that MENA Christians got their smarts via selective attrition (i.e. poor Christians being unable to afford the jizya and so converting), Greg Cochran disagrees:


    I don’t consider selective attrition impossible, but since know that there are endogamous ethnoreligious groups in the Middle East that sure seem to be as bright as the European average (Maronites, Assyrian Christians, Iraqi Jews, etc), that were hill farmers rather than some sort of commercial elite, and that differ genetically from the general population of the Middle East (more like the Middle East used to be), maybe we don’t need two explanations when one (some groups simply stayed the same) staying the same) will do.
     

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Reg Cæsar, @Marcus

    This means the Middle East was worth more 2000 years ago than it is today, so its loss was a great loss, and not just for Christianity but for the whole of mankind as well.

    • Replies: @Cwhatfuture
    @reiner Tor

    The destruction of the Persian and Byzantine Empires was a world calamity. The Middle East has never recovered and the Islamic successor Empires, despite all the propaganda never reached the level of civilization of either. The European colonial powers should have reclaimed the Middle East for the West and exiled Islam back to the desert. The fact they did not, but instead allowed themselves to be colonized, is astounding.

    Replies: @Marcus

  56. “Muslims in Germany are an asset”

    They misspelled “ass set”.

  57. @Mr. Anon
    The ostensibly "serious" media - NPR, The Times, The Washington Post, and the news and opinion mags - have really revealed themselves to be co-opted. One would think that an international confab of the richest and most power people in the world (and/or their hirelings) like Bilderberg or Davos, would be considered rather important and news-worthy. But the media pays them virtually no mind. Nothing to see here - why do you ask? You must be some kind of nut.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    The Guardian pays some attention to Bilderberg, because it’s a center-right thing.

  58. iSteveFan says:

    Whether it is the myth that the migrants are coming to save social security, or now to save us from inbreeding, it appears there will always be another excuse for why we must let them in. It is like the fix is in. Once you disprove one of their rationales, they just simply pivot and throw out another after another. Honestly I don’t think they will ever admit they are wrong. There are going to have to be thrown out of power for things to change.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas
    @iSteveFan

    And the taco trucks. Don't forget the taco trucks.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @guest

    , @Lagertha
    @iSteveFan

    I'm waiting for ethnic Germans and Swedes to be beaten up, pelted with eggs, mugged, thrown down on pavement, hit with a bag of rocks (what the frack WAS in that bag that drew profuse bleeding from that yellow, polo shirt-clad young man in San Jose'?) knifed for being blonde, dragged out of their homes at knife point to....finally....say...Houston, we have a problem.

    Replies: @Dave, @Jefferson

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @iSteveFan


    Honestly I don’t think they will ever admit they are wrong. There are going to have to be thrown out of power for things to change.
     
    Or forced to live next door to their invitees. Like I am.
  59. OT: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/10/upshot/there-are-more-white-voters-than-people-think-thats-good-news-for-trump.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1

    This is interesting, I didn’t see anyone posting about it, new take on the demographics problem for the election.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @The Practical Conservative

    That's actually quite an iSteve-y piece. Steve would have given it a better title though.

  60. So he admits that Germans are closer to one another genetically than to, say, Syrians. So race is real, therefore race does not exist.

  61. Yeah, just look at how Japan and Korea have lowered their human capital by staying homogeneous.

    Either

    a) this guy is saying stuff he knows is nonsense, just to keep his job, or

    b) he’s a first-class, A-Number-1, top-of-the-line wack-a-doodle. Nuttier than squirrel turd.

  62. @countenance
    IRONY ALERT

    To solve Germany's German problem of "inbreeding," a German public official is endorsing importing people who are known for having a culture of close cousin breeding and tight endogamy.

    Replies: @Njguy73

    Muslims have always had cousin marriage.

    Muslims have never had cousin marriage.

  63. @tbraton
    @yaqub the mad scientist

    I believe Elizabeth Holmes of Theranos fame is planning on giving a Ted talk of how to go from an estimated net worth of $4 billion to zero in a few short months.

    Replies: @Anon, @Njguy73, @candid_observer

    Lose $4 billion?

    Like our elite need to learn how to do that.

    Congress does that and calls it ” a typical Tuesday.”

  64. @Auntie Analogue
    Speaking of inbreeding, is "German" Finance Minister Schnäuble a dumbkopf, or is he simply ignorant of the ubiquity of Moslem clan-centric cousin marriage?

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Olorin

    I am always amazed that quite often, people who consider themselves very liberal, the open-minded (such a stupid expression), almost keep blinders on when it comes to most people from MENA. It is kinda’ a “la-la-la-la-laa” with fingers in their ears when cousin marriage, multiple wives (marriages that are not recorded in Europe – to get “single mother status”); clitorectomies of prepubescent girls, various types of deadly Slut Shaming, forced marriage come to play. European men and women in political power are just left speechless since all that grotesque behavior would not be allowed in their own fracking family.

  65. Schauble also said this, per Breitbart: ‘Africa will be our problem, we have to assume this task,” he said likely in response to the new waves of migrants crossing into Italy from northern Africa.’

    White man’s burden.

  66. @iSteveFan
    Whether it is the myth that the migrants are coming to save social security, or now to save us from inbreeding, it appears there will always be another excuse for why we must let them in. It is like the fix is in. Once you disprove one of their rationales, they just simply pivot and throw out another after another. Honestly I don't think they will ever admit they are wrong. There are going to have to be thrown out of power for things to change.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas, @Lagertha, @Reg Cæsar

    And the taco trucks. Don’t forget the taco trucks.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Alec Leamas

    "And the taco trucks. Don’t forget the taco trucks."

    Who doesn't like Syrian tacos?

    , @guest
    @Alec Leamas

    That's the one thing they're right about: food. And we could get that without letting them in permanently.

  67. @iSteveFan
    Whether it is the myth that the migrants are coming to save social security, or now to save us from inbreeding, it appears there will always be another excuse for why we must let them in. It is like the fix is in. Once you disprove one of their rationales, they just simply pivot and throw out another after another. Honestly I don't think they will ever admit they are wrong. There are going to have to be thrown out of power for things to change.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas, @Lagertha, @Reg Cæsar

    I’m waiting for ethnic Germans and Swedes to be beaten up, pelted with eggs, mugged, thrown down on pavement, hit with a bag of rocks (what the frack WAS in that bag that drew profuse bleeding from that yellow, polo shirt-clad young man in San Jose’?) knifed for being blonde, dragged out of their homes at knife point to….finally….say…Houston, we have a problem.

    • Replies: @Dave
    @Lagertha

    All that and more has been happening for years and they still won't stand up and resist.

    , @Jefferson
    @Lagertha

    "hit with a bag of rocks (what the frack WAS in that bag that drew profuse bleeding from that yellow, polo shirt-clad young man in San Jose’?)"

    There was either a brick, glass, or broken glass in that bag.

    Replies: @Big Bill

  68. @reiner Tor
    @reiner Tor

    This means the Middle East was worth more 2000 years ago than it is today, so its loss was a great loss, and not just for Christianity but for the whole of mankind as well.

    Replies: @Cwhatfuture

    The destruction of the Persian and Byzantine Empires was a world calamity. The Middle East has never recovered and the Islamic successor Empires, despite all the propaganda never reached the level of civilization of either. The European colonial powers should have reclaimed the Middle East for the West and exiled Islam back to the desert. The fact they did not, but instead allowed themselves to be colonized, is astounding.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    @Cwhatfuture

    Also India, as hard as it is to believe looking at it today. India was maybe the wealthiest, most sophisticated civilization in the world before the invasions (which lasted almost a millennium and never fully succeeded due to sheer size and determined resistance) http://vinod11220.tripod.com/islamsciencelit.htm

  69. @anonymous
    @boogerbently

    The structure of commenting and censoring here on Unz is not conducive to active give and take between commenters. We're all spokes of the author's wheel.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @PiltdownMan

    duh, get over it. Sometimes in life, you have no control…or you are not so special…or…ha, ha – thank goodness Steve does not outsource his blog to some idgits! Have fun or go home! Only the strong survive.

    • Replies: @neutral
    @Lagertha

    Sometimes in life you should also be willing to accept that something is wrong, this comments system is wrong in many different ways.

  70. Look, the Germans have had no problems with inbreeding up till now.

    Does this mean that the “Boys from Brazil” program somehow went terribly wrong ?

  71. @Cwhatfuture
    There is a slight problem with the plan. The Syrians would be happy to take German women. But they won't let Germans touch their daughters or sisters. That is against Islam (not against Islam for the Muslim man to take a Christian wife). That is going to produce some frustrated German men (but not Syrian women, as the Syrians will take multiple wives).

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    But they won’t let Germans touch their daughters or sisters.

    What self-respecting German would even want to? They’re not covered up to hide their attractiveness.

    • Agree: JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Reg Cæsar

    I'm sure females of all ethnicities are beating down your door, eh Mr Stud??

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  72. @reiner Tor
    @SFG

    While Greg Clark proposes that MENA Christians got their smarts via selective attrition (i.e. poor Christians being unable to afford the jizya and so converting), Greg Cochran disagrees:


    I don’t consider selective attrition impossible, but since know that there are endogamous ethnoreligious groups in the Middle East that sure seem to be as bright as the European average (Maronites, Assyrian Christians, Iraqi Jews, etc), that were hill farmers rather than some sort of commercial elite, and that differ genetically from the general population of the Middle East (more like the Middle East used to be), maybe we don’t need two explanations when one (some groups simply stayed the same) staying the same) will do.
     

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Reg Cæsar, @Marcus

    Christianity, Roman and Eastern, strongly discouraged consanguine marriages. Islam did not. That would make a big difference over the centuries.

    The only direct comparison I’ve seen showed that among Palestinians, Moslems out-inbred Christians 29% to 16%. And those figures are likely respectively low and high for their faiths.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Reg Cæsar

    Inbreeding is still a practice among MENA Christians. Of course, the Arabs brought their extreme inbreeding (fbd) practice with them, and likely made the problem considerably worse. But the main difference is probably the influx of Bedouin and especially sub-Saharan African genes.

    , @Nico
    @Reg Cæsar

    The reduced numbers have left ME Christians with a smaller gene pool but the heavy selectivity pressures of living in Islamic lands have probably given them a higher-than-average quality one, in which case light inbreeding could be advantageous as it tends to close in with a deleterious effect on undesirable traits.

  73. @Tiny Duck
    How does it feel? Knowing that you have lost and will never be in power again?

    Replies: @biz, @Lagertha, @Dirk Dagger, @Jeff, @fish

    my God, you are so boring. Could YOU just get lost? Go away. You are, obviously low IQ, with no game since you always seem to hang around here. Life is short.

  74. @iSteveFan
    Whether it is the myth that the migrants are coming to save social security, or now to save us from inbreeding, it appears there will always be another excuse for why we must let them in. It is like the fix is in. Once you disprove one of their rationales, they just simply pivot and throw out another after another. Honestly I don't think they will ever admit they are wrong. There are going to have to be thrown out of power for things to change.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas, @Lagertha, @Reg Cæsar

    Honestly I don’t think they will ever admit they are wrong. There are going to have to be thrown out of power for things to change.

    Or forced to live next door to their invitees. Like I am.

  75. @biz
    @Tiny Duck

    Who 'lost' and is out of power? Weren't you just claiming yesterday that white privilege was real?

    Replies: @Alfa158

    To be precise he was saying White Supremacy is real, not White privilege, although given the other stuff he writes I’m a little surprised he thinks the White race is supreme.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Alfa158


    ...given the other stuff he writes I’m a little surprised he thinks the White race is supreme.
     
    Given the other stuff he writes, I'm a little surprised you think he thinks.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

  76. @Reg Cæsar
    @reiner Tor

    Christianity, Roman and Eastern, strongly discouraged consanguine marriages. Islam did not. That would make a big difference over the centuries.

    The only direct comparison I've seen showed that among Palestinians, Moslems out-inbred Christians 29% to 16%. And those figures are likely respectively low and high for their faiths.

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Nico

    Inbreeding is still a practice among MENA Christians. Of course, the Arabs brought their extreme inbreeding (fbd) practice with them, and likely made the problem considerably worse. But the main difference is probably the influx of Bedouin and especially sub-Saharan African genes.

  77. @Lagertha
    @iSteveFan

    I'm waiting for ethnic Germans and Swedes to be beaten up, pelted with eggs, mugged, thrown down on pavement, hit with a bag of rocks (what the frack WAS in that bag that drew profuse bleeding from that yellow, polo shirt-clad young man in San Jose'?) knifed for being blonde, dragged out of their homes at knife point to....finally....say...Houston, we have a problem.

    Replies: @Dave, @Jefferson

    All that and more has been happening for years and they still won’t stand up and resist.

  78. @tbraton
    @yaqub the mad scientist

    I believe Elizabeth Holmes of Theranos fame is planning on giving a Ted talk of how to go from an estimated net worth of $4 billion to zero in a few short months.

    Replies: @Anon, @Njguy73, @candid_observer

    It’s actually quite a feat, to make $4B disappear into nothingness in a few months.

    Has this ever happened before, I wonder? I just don’t know how it would be possible, except by some extraordinary fraud, and I can’t think of a fraud of this magnitude. Or maybe in a stock market crash? But to lose over a billion dollars?

    Can anybody else think of comparable examples?

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @candid_observer

    The 4 billion didn't exist in the first place. It was inflated valuation of her 50% share in Theranos.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    , @Cwhatfuture
    @candid_observer

    Enron went bankrupt, as did Lehman Brothers, in a flash. There was no long slow decline.

    , @SolontoCroesus
    @candid_observer


    Can anybody think of comparable examples?
     
    Monte Zweben
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/karstenstrauss/2012/10/19/former-nasa-researcher-and-billionaire-gets-back-in-the-startup-game/#784130631024

    once among the richest people on the planet, worth about $1.4 billion* in the year 2000 on the back of the IPO success of his company, Blue Martini. Later, with the company’s decline, the former NASA AI specialist would drop off the Forbes List, as 98% percent of his fortune evaporated
     
    , @Hodag
    @candid_observer

    Ottoman Sultan Bayazid I went from control of Anatolia and absolute despot of his people and turned into Tamerlane's slave after being captured at the Battle of Ankara. Timur would make the Sultan get down on all fours so Timur could mount his horse..

    , @tbraton
    @candid_observer

    As reiner Tor has pointed out, those values were based necessarily on estimates, since Theranos was a privately-held corporation, not a publicly-traded one. In fact, when Steve first posted about Theranos last fall, I responded by saying that, if Theranos were publicly traded, I would short it. I based my judgment largely on the fact that the board assembled by Ms. Holmes seemed to be comprised of superannuated, over-the-hill Washington "experts" with little experience in business, a sure sign of failure imo. After all, if Henry Kissinger would endorse GWB's Iraq War in 2003 and 8 years later blame his horrendous call on "faulty intelligence," an area of foreign policy where he can claim some level of expertise, why would I have confidence in his judgment that Theranos was a legitimate, profit-making company, when he appears to have absolutely no knowledge of the extremely complicated and technical legal and scientific requirements involved? I recall reading that Ms. Holmes had not sold a single share of Theranos. It was clear that they were prepping Theranos for an Initial Public Offering, when most of the investors in Theranos would be unloading their stock in exchange for real money to a gullible public, anxious to share in the profits of this miracle company. Unfortunately, they encountered a few bumps in the road that they weren't expecting before they could unload their dog on an unsuspecting public.

    , @Anonymous
    @candid_observer

    It took $5B for Vitoria Nuland to give Crimea back to Russia in one day. It beats Elizabeth Holmes by far.

  79. @Alfa158
    @biz

    To be precise he was saying White Supremacy is real, not White privilege, although given the other stuff he writes I'm a little surprised he thinks the White race is supreme.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    …given the other stuff he writes I’m a little surprised he thinks the White race is supreme.

    Given the other stuff he writes, I’m a little surprised you think he thinks.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Reg Cæsar

    Tiny/Sick Duck is a right wing troll who writes parody comments for laughs. That's my guess.

  80. The whole thing is just indicative of how desperate Europe is to stuff more and more Muslims and Africans in the place. It is a religious madness, John Lennon’s Imagine come to fruition. European elites (and ours) believe all people are the same, in ability, in character, in attributes, save Western White men who are evil and the devil. This latter is most likely the fairly self-evident hate hate hate that most White women have for their male peers. If there is no fury like a woman scorned, there is no hate like a woman for an unsexy man.

    If you just substitute — White women are tired of their men and want someone, anyone, to dominate them, rid them of the tiresome compromises, negotiations, and high level thinking that a prosperous, safe, and secure industrial society requires, there would be no significant difference in actual policy regarding mass third world immigration into the US or EU.

    None whatsoever.

    When feminists go on and on about the Patriarchy and male oppression, what they are really signaling (women never say what they actually want, you must infer it from their actions) is a desire for domination and being told what to do; ala Fifty Shades of Pr0n. Meanwhile a not insignificant number of third world women would really like not be beaten every night.

    That is the human condition.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Whiskey

    What you just wrote is just too mental, even for you. Can you just give it a rest with the "women want this, women want that stuff?" I enjoy so many of your explosive comments/diatribes over the months and 2 years....but, then you succumb to subtle rants about hypothetical women's behavior...and your bitterness kills the point of your post. Too bad you can't be my "bar buddy" since you probably live somewhere really far away - cause, I could introduce you to women who are not the evil demons you always seem to mention.

  81. @Tiny Duck
    How does it feel? Knowing that you have lost and will never be in power again?

    Replies: @biz, @Lagertha, @Dirk Dagger, @Jeff, @fish

    My Five Best Jefferson Airplane songs:
    1. “Somebody to Love” From: ‘Surrealistic Pillow’ (1967)
    2. “White Rabbit” From: ‘Surrealistic Pillow’ (1967)
    3. “Volunteers” From: ‘Volunteers’ (1969)
    4. “Good Shepherd” From: ‘Volunteers’ (1969)
    5. “Wooden Ships” From: ‘Volunteers’ (1969)

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Dirk Dagger

    Yup.

    Replies: @backup, @Auntie Analogue

  82. @Reg Cæsar
    @Alfa158


    ...given the other stuff he writes I’m a little surprised he thinks the White race is supreme.
     
    Given the other stuff he writes, I'm a little surprised you think he thinks.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    Tiny/Sick Duck is a right wing troll who writes parody comments for laughs. That’s my guess.

  83. @candid_observer
    @tbraton

    It's actually quite a feat, to make $4B disappear into nothingness in a few months.

    Has this ever happened before, I wonder? I just don't know how it would be possible, except by some extraordinary fraud, and I can't think of a fraud of this magnitude. Or maybe in a stock market crash? But to lose over a billion dollars?

    Can anybody else think of comparable examples?

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Cwhatfuture, @SolontoCroesus, @Hodag, @tbraton, @Anonymous

    The 4 billion didn’t exist in the first place. It was inflated valuation of her 50% share in Theranos.

    • Agree: Nico
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @reiner Tor

    I'm assuming Ms Holmes managed to salt away $10 million or so in the course of this fabulous adventure. Enough to get by on after things went south, as she must have known they would. Somehow I think she'll manage to live comfortably for the rest of her life. Correct me if I'm wrong.

  84. @Alec Leamas
    @iSteveFan

    And the taco trucks. Don't forget the taco trucks.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @guest

    “And the taco trucks. Don’t forget the taco trucks.”

    Who doesn’t like Syrian tacos?

  85. @Alec Leamas
    @iSteveFan

    And the taco trucks. Don't forget the taco trucks.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @guest

    That’s the one thing they’re right about: food. And we could get that without letting them in permanently.

  86. @Lagertha
    @iSteveFan

    I'm waiting for ethnic Germans and Swedes to be beaten up, pelted with eggs, mugged, thrown down on pavement, hit with a bag of rocks (what the frack WAS in that bag that drew profuse bleeding from that yellow, polo shirt-clad young man in San Jose'?) knifed for being blonde, dragged out of their homes at knife point to....finally....say...Houston, we have a problem.

    Replies: @Dave, @Jefferson

    “hit with a bag of rocks (what the frack WAS in that bag that drew profuse bleeding from that yellow, polo shirt-clad young man in San Jose’?)”

    There was either a brick, glass, or broken glass in that bag.

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    @Jefferson

    What ever happened to cobblestone streets? Back in those days the city government provided you with free ammunition for every riot.

  87. • Replies: @helena
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Didn't see this before I commented. Well fielded!

    , @backup
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Also, there may be a price to pay for marrying too far off. Say your offspring is half African they may have inherited the genetics to withstand malaria better than Europeans. However, a lot of these beneficial genes come at a price, in this case sickle cell anemia. Europe however has no malaria anymore, so you basically inherited the cost without the benefit.

  88. @candid_observer
    @tbraton

    It's actually quite a feat, to make $4B disappear into nothingness in a few months.

    Has this ever happened before, I wonder? I just don't know how it would be possible, except by some extraordinary fraud, and I can't think of a fraud of this magnitude. Or maybe in a stock market crash? But to lose over a billion dollars?

    Can anybody else think of comparable examples?

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Cwhatfuture, @SolontoCroesus, @Hodag, @tbraton, @Anonymous

    Enron went bankrupt, as did Lehman Brothers, in a flash. There was no long slow decline.

  89. @Dirk Dagger
    @Tiny Duck

    My Five Best Jefferson Airplane songs:
    1. "Somebody to Love” From: ‘Surrealistic Pillow’ (1967)
    2. "White Rabbit” From: ‘Surrealistic Pillow’ (1967)
    3. "Volunteers” From: ‘Volunteers’ (1969)
    4. "Good Shepherd” From: ‘Volunteers’ (1969)
    5. "Wooden Ships" From: ‘Volunteers’ (1969)

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Yup.

    • Replies: @backup
    @Steve Sailer

    I am going to react here as the Jefferson Airplane question pops up here. While I'm not from the sixties I read about it, especially via Tom Wolfe's Electric Cool-Aid Acidtest and in that book the original hippies clearly had a severe dislike for anything political. So in that respect JA is an outlier.

    http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/jerrygarci158233.html

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Auntie Analogue
    @Steve Sailer

    I love "Good Shepherd."

    Every night, Gertie and I play it.

    Gertie's my guitar.

    My other favorite from Volunteers is "Eskimo Blue Day." Once, a long time ago, at a party, in the basement full of people, all of them strangers to me, I found an unoccupied spot on the carpet, and sat down cross-legged. Then Gertie's ancestor and I picked out the song's intro. To my everlasting thrill, the woman seated beside me launched seamlessly into the vocal, and through the entire number she sang it perfectly. It was the most spectacular musical moment I've ever enjoyed. Serendipity of the Highest Order of Ecstasy. Not least because it was the most perfect song I'd ever performed and the woman's vocal nailed every note, every change, every emphasis, every phrasing immaculate.

    Had never before seen her, or she me.

    When the number ended, people sat stunned, wide-eyed and agog.

    Until one of them asked, "Wow, how long have you two played together?"

    Our mouths shaping wordless "O's," my unknown vocalist and I turned to one another, and burst out laughing.

    Here's Airplane's original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7epbdQ4YYI

    See you in the Future.

    Auntie

    Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...

  90. The German government likes Nonwhites way more than Whites. But among Nonwhites, I don’t get why they prefer mass Muslim immigration over mass East Asian immigration.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @Jefferson


    I don’t get why they prefer mass Muslim immigration over mass East Asian immigration
     
    East Asians are a genuine threat to the elites, and have the work ethic and cognitive skills to actually grab power. The Germans just got rid of the Jews, they aren't about to let in a new competitor. North African and Middle Eastern immigrants for the most part will just displace working class whites. As one can see from Mexico, Brazil, Turkey, and even parts of the US with large black and latino populations, it is quite possible for a mostly white elite to live quite well in a minority white country provided they are willing to pay for personal security and live in isolated neighborhoods. Keep in mind that many European elites are descended from aristocrats who for centuries ruled illiterate peasants often speaking a different language, professing a different religion and whom the aristorcrats considered barely human. In some ways we are seeing an attempt to restore the pre-19th century status quo. European aristocrats have always hated nationalism.

    Is this a good plan? No, I would argue that it is a fairly stupid plan, but I see where European elites are coming from. Personally I would rather live a middle class lifestyle in white Denmark than a billionaire life style in Brazil, but then I am not descended from European aristocracy.

    Replies: @AP

  91. @Arclight
    You know stuff is getting out of hands when high ranking German officials start waxing poetic about the benefits of eugenics.

    Replies: @Jeff, @bomag

    Nicely done. You win one internet.

  92. @Tiny Duck
    How does it feel? Knowing that you have lost and will never be in power again?

    Replies: @biz, @Lagertha, @Dirk Dagger, @Jeff, @fish

    As best as I can tell, you’ve lost pretty much every argument you’ve started here at unz. So, tell us, how does it feel?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Jeff

    He's not serious. Getting people annoyed and responding to his inane comments is his pay-off. He's like a fly buzzing around in your room when you're trying to sleep. Comment sections are infested with guys like this. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to make the "block this commenter" feature work.

  93. Obviously, Schauble knows absolutely nothing whatsoever about genetics, the linkage of deleterious mutations, duplication of alelles or even ‘effective population sizes’.

    He even knows even less about typical Muslim marriage practices – and their association with all of the above.

  94. Compare the kindness Schauble shows to the third world faker/frauds gate-crashing Europe with the sheer brutality and cruelty he showed toward the Greeks.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Anonymous

    It applies more to Merkel.

    Actually I think Schäuble's point regarding the Greeks (they should be forced out of the Eurozone, and then provided debt forgiveness and foreign aid) made a lot of sense. The Greeks didn't accept it out of sheer stupidity. Creating the Eurozone proved disastrous for most participants, in the long run, everybody will lose by it.

    Replies: @neon2

  95. @reiner Tor
    @anony-mouse

    That's a comparable victory to when Jared Diamond conceded to group differences to IQ, proposing that New Guineans were more intelligent than Europeans.

    BTW Schäuble is not thinking hbd-like. It's the dumb "interracial marriage is beneficial because inbreeding" type reasoning all over again. Nothing "hbd-like" about it.

    Replies: @SFG, @helena

    “BTW Schäuble is not thinking hbd-like.”

    This is not the first time a concept popular in US ‘resistance to neoliberalism’ circles has appeared in Europe but twisted to mean the opposite. I’ve heard similar with the term libertarianism, which isn’t an ideology espoused in UK but has been ‘outed’ as a ‘fraudulent’ ideology by liberal public commenters. Perhaps the EU really are worried about the Trump phenomonon, much like European royal houses were worried by the French and US revolutions at the beginning of the 19th century.

    But the neoliberals are very good at word games that put the Alt-Right onto the defensive. To which the only reply can be…

    Sixth Cousin = Sixth Sense!

  96. @Anatoly Karlin
    https://twitter.com/hbdchick/status/740796972957851648

    Replies: @helena, @backup

    Didn’t see this before I commented. Well fielded!

  97. Oh come on! It’s gotta be (((Schäuble))).

  98. @Steve Sailer
    @Dirk Dagger

    Yup.

    Replies: @backup, @Auntie Analogue

    I am going to react here as the Jefferson Airplane question pops up here. While I’m not from the sixties I read about it, especially via Tom Wolfe’s Electric Cool-Aid Acidtest and in that book the original hippies clearly had a severe dislike for anything political. So in that respect JA is an outlier.

    http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/jerrygarci158233.html

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @backup


    ... the original hippies clearly had a severe dislike for anything political.
     
    One of the guys in Moby Grape quit the band to join the Marines. At the height of the Vietnam War. Imagine that.

    Replies: @backup, @backup, @The Alarmist

  99. @PiltdownMan
    You would think that Germans would have learned to leave the questions of eugenics severely alone.

    The last time they tried to get a handle on the subject, 75 years ago or so, they very nearly destroyed themselves. Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble views, if taken up, will surely do the same, albeit by causing them to slew wildly in the opposite direction and vanish as a people.

    Look, you volk are just not very good at this. The rest of us will decide if you've lost all your commonsense—which you appear to do periodically—and let you know.

    This is one of those times. Just ease up on the mad immigration and you'll be ok, awright?

    Replies: @SFG, @anon, @Joe Sweet

    A that good old pathologizing narrative. How has “common sense” worked for American and British immigration?

  100. @Anonymous
    Compare the kindness Schauble shows to the third world faker/frauds gate-crashing Europe with the sheer brutality and cruelty he showed toward the Greeks.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    It applies more to Merkel.

    Actually I think Schäuble’s point regarding the Greeks (they should be forced out of the Eurozone, and then provided debt forgiveness and foreign aid) made a lot of sense. The Greeks didn’t accept it out of sheer stupidity. Creating the Eurozone proved disastrous for most participants, in the long run, everybody will lose by it.

    • Replies: @neon2
    @reiner Tor

    When I lived in Germany my impression of Schäuble was of a sensible right 0f center politician who didn't stand any nonsense from the Left.
    What in God's name has happened to him?

    Replies: @Desiderius

  101. @Anatoly Karlin
    https://twitter.com/hbdchick/status/740796972957851648

    Replies: @helena, @backup

    Also, there may be a price to pay for marrying too far off. Say your offspring is half African they may have inherited the genetics to withstand malaria better than Europeans. However, a lot of these beneficial genes come at a price, in this case sickle cell anemia. Europe however has no malaria anymore, so you basically inherited the cost without the benefit.

  102. OT
    New president of Peru:
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/09/americas/peru-president-pedro-pablo-kuczynski/index.html

    White American World-Bank guy beat out Fujimori’s daughter. Is being president “a job Peruvians won’t / can’t do?”

    • Replies: @Anon
    @penntothal

    My suspicion is that Peru is gradually becoming a country where only the elites, namely those with non-indigenous Indian blood, are bothering to vote anymore, which is why they're beginning to favor foreigners for politicians. Either that or clever foreigners from more elite races are outmaneuvering the locals, which could be true as well.

    As time goes on, it's likely more and more third world countries will see either whites in charge as indigenous people give up on the competence and/or lack of ethical values of their own tribal peoples.

    , @Anonymous
    @penntothal

    Kuczynski spent much of his life in America, but he was born in Peru. His father, Maxime Hans Kuczynski, was a Jewish pathologist from Posen (now Poznan, Poland but then Posen, Germany) who specialized in infectious diseases and emigrated to Peru when the Nazis came to power in 1933. His mother, Madeleine Godard, was of French-Swiss ancestry and closely related to film director Jean-Luc Godard.

  103. @Hodag
    TED talks serve the same function as Davos. Plus they have their own NPR radio show. And podcasts!

    Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist, @NickG

    Most TED talks are pretentious bollocks*.

    A word I’m determined should cross to the Western side of the Atlantic.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @NickG

    Improv comedian Sam Hyde pranked a TED talk event in Philadelphia. Well worth a viewing.
    From an article in Philadelphia magazine:


    The event concluded with Sam Hyde, billed as a “video documentary filmmaker and journalist from Brooklyn” who “recently returned from Mogadishu, the most dangerous city on earth, where he shadowed the heroic al-Mahamud women on their quest to clean up their streets and restore humanity to their war-torn country.” TEDx organizer Dhairya Pujara introduced Hyde’s presentation, titled “2070 Paradigm Shift.”

    Hyde, 28, is not a journalist; he’s a member of the Massachusetts-based comedy troupe Million Dollar Extreme, which employs a type of shock-value comedy along the lines of a more goalless version of Yes Men sabotage. Hyde took the stage dressed in a crimson sweatsuit and clad in a gold Roman centurion breastplate and shin guards, did a kind of faux deep breathing preparation, reclined on the steps in front of the TEDx letters, and began his talk.

    “Guys, pat yourselves on the back right now, okay? I’m not gonna let you stop until I see everyone do it,” he began. “That pat on the back is for saving the world.” Hyde launched into a discursive presentation that touched on the “trash economy,” described a future in which gay men will develop the ability to procreate, and recounted his experience traveling to Africa with Elon Musk to give iPads to the impoverished:

    “Now, we looked at the data, and what we found surprised us. What we found was that culture is a sewer. We’ve got lewd media, nasty bedroom things on TV. And they’re sexualizing young girls and it’s getting to the point where even I have a problem with it. And it shouldn’t be that way.”
     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cflCyyEA2I

    Replies: @IBC

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @NickG


    Most TED talks are pretentious bollocks*.

    A word I’m determined should cross to the Western side of the Atlantic.
     
    It was beaten out by cojones, so you may be out of luck. On the other hand, many Mexicans are offended by its use, so maybe we'll have to stop.
  104. @Steve Sailer
    @Dirk Dagger

    Yup.

    Replies: @backup, @Auntie Analogue

    I love “Good Shepherd.”

    Every night, Gertie and I play it.

    Gertie’s my guitar.

    My other favorite from Volunteers is “Eskimo Blue Day.” Once, a long time ago, at a party, in the basement full of people, all of them strangers to me, I found an unoccupied spot on the carpet, and sat down cross-legged. Then Gertie’s ancestor and I picked out the song’s intro. To my everlasting thrill, the woman seated beside me launched seamlessly into the vocal, and through the entire number she sang it perfectly. It was the most spectacular musical moment I’ve ever enjoyed. Serendipity of the Highest Order of Ecstasy. Not least because it was the most perfect song I’d ever performed and the woman’s vocal nailed every note, every change, every emphasis, every phrasing immaculate.

    Had never before seen her, or she me.

    When the number ended, people sat stunned, wide-eyed and agog.

    Until one of them asked, “Wow, how long have you two played together?”

    Our mouths shaping wordless “O’s,” my unknown vocalist and I turned to one another, and burst out laughing.

    Here’s Airplane’s original:

    See you in the Future.

    Auntie

    • Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    @Auntie Analogue

    "Had never before seen her, or she me".
    I knew Our Auntie was too smart to be a chick.

  105. Bloody hell, fucking moron manages to get it entirely backwards.

    1) Germany’s population of umpteen million is in no danger of inbreeding unless they spontaneously begin fucking their siblings and cousins, which
    2) is exactly what these Muslim immigrants are the people on Earth most prone to.

  106. So does this mean every German family will be forced to adopt a Muslim goatherd as a future son-in-law? Yodel yodel ai ee hoo

  107. @boogerbently
    @reiner Tor

    OT
    But I just noticed Razib deleted my comment comparing him to Jayman about threatening to delete comments.
    I didn't know they could do that on UNZ, just their own blog.
    Which means we can't get a real feel for reactions to articles, because the author can delete the negative or contrary arguments.
    Pretty narcissistic.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Realist, @Anon, @AndrewR, @boogerbently

    Razib is most definitely a narcissistic little fuck. He has his cadre of hangers on who comment on his posts.

  108. @Pagoda
    They'd end up like Israel!

    Replies: @SolontoCroesus

    They’d end up like Israel!

    Since German Jews built the framework for Hebrew culture in Palestine on a model of German institutions and even German town planning, if Germany ends up like Israel, it will be like Germany.

  109. @Glossy
    I see that Charles Murray was among the Bilderberg attendees.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @rod1963

    “I see that Charles Murray was among the Bilderberg attendees.”

    If he keeps on turning up his nose at Trump, they might invite him next year, too.

    On topic (inbreeding), the Born In Bradford website may be of interest to Steve and others, everything is referenced.

    http://www.borninbradford.nhs.uk/research-scientific/cohort-study/

    “The majority of Pakistani mothers were related to their partner and there was evidence that consanguinity provided social and health benefits to the mother but also increased risk of congenital anomalies for the infant. Using BiB data we have shown that rates of congenital anomalies were twice as common in Bradford compared with UK as a whole and that Pakistani origin and consanguineous unions were strong risk factors”

  110. @candid_observer
    @tbraton

    It's actually quite a feat, to make $4B disappear into nothingness in a few months.

    Has this ever happened before, I wonder? I just don't know how it would be possible, except by some extraordinary fraud, and I can't think of a fraud of this magnitude. Or maybe in a stock market crash? But to lose over a billion dollars?

    Can anybody else think of comparable examples?

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Cwhatfuture, @SolontoCroesus, @Hodag, @tbraton, @Anonymous

    Can anybody think of comparable examples?

    Monte Zweben
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/karstenstrauss/2012/10/19/former-nasa-researcher-and-billionaire-gets-back-in-the-startup-game/#784130631024

    once among the richest people on the planet, worth about $1.4 billion* in the year 2000 on the back of the IPO success of his company, Blue Martini. Later, with the company’s decline, the former NASA AI specialist would drop off the Forbes List, as 98% percent of his fortune evaporated

  111. @Auntie Analogue
    @Steve Sailer

    I love "Good Shepherd."

    Every night, Gertie and I play it.

    Gertie's my guitar.

    My other favorite from Volunteers is "Eskimo Blue Day." Once, a long time ago, at a party, in the basement full of people, all of them strangers to me, I found an unoccupied spot on the carpet, and sat down cross-legged. Then Gertie's ancestor and I picked out the song's intro. To my everlasting thrill, the woman seated beside me launched seamlessly into the vocal, and through the entire number she sang it perfectly. It was the most spectacular musical moment I've ever enjoyed. Serendipity of the Highest Order of Ecstasy. Not least because it was the most perfect song I'd ever performed and the woman's vocal nailed every note, every change, every emphasis, every phrasing immaculate.

    Had never before seen her, or she me.

    When the number ended, people sat stunned, wide-eyed and agog.

    Until one of them asked, "Wow, how long have you two played together?"

    Our mouths shaping wordless "O's," my unknown vocalist and I turned to one another, and burst out laughing.

    Here's Airplane's original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7epbdQ4YYI

    See you in the Future.

    Auntie

    Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...

    “Had never before seen her, or she me”.
    I knew Our Auntie was too smart to be a chick.

  112. @Intelligent Dasein
    The idea that importing immigrants will help increase fertility rates is not going to be borne out empirically. It hasn't worked in the USA, for example, which currently has a TFR of 1.9 despite massive Hispanic immigration.

    When you think about it, mass migrations aren't very conducive to increasing populations, as the latter requires stability and mass migration is both a symptom and a cause of instability. There are not going to be many babies born in Germany's refugee centers, because there are few women and few intact family units there. There aren't going to be many babies born in Syria because many of the young men have ran off and the country is devastated by war. And notwithstanding the entirely appropriate moniker "rapefugees," German girls are not going to have children with Syrian migrants. They don't want to date them or marry them, they don't want to bear their children, and good luck getting a women to carry a child to term if, God forbid, she is raped in a country with emergency contraception and legalized abortion.

    Urbanized people have never been very good at reproducing themselves, and drawing in human matter from the four corners of the earth only forestalls the problem. Merkel's Boner is accelerating the demographic winter.

    As an aside, how many babies would you guess are not being born right now in Latin America, with Venezuela in a free fall, Brazil cracking up, Zika virus rampant, Antipope Francis blazing through and dog-whistling that "birth control may be acceptable in some cases," and many of the young people of marriageable age having already split the scene for the USA, where they will conform to the latter's sub-replacement birthrate within a generation?

    Replies: @Romanian, @Anonymous, @AndrewR, @Intelligent Dasein

    So what Africa needs to lower birthrates is a good war to keep people on their toes instead of spreading their legs? It doesn’t really sound correct to me. Gaza has huge birthrates, it’s how they go to war.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Romanian

    What's the betting that the enormous - and still rapidly increasing Gazan population, bred as we all well know as a 'biological weapon' against the Israelis, never actually manages to demographically swamp Israel at all, but 'all of a sudden' invites itself into Europe, and dumb bastard European politicians will more than gladly accept them all?

    Count on it happening. Count on it soon. Very soon.

    Replies: @Marcus

    , @Marcus
    @Romanian

    Same with Iraq and Afghanistan

    , @cwhatfuture
    @Romanian

    Gaza has a "biological weapon" because the UN, that is the West, simply pays Gazans to breed. Their food, their basic shelter, their schools are all taken care of by the UNRWA. There are no consequences for them having 6 children per mother because the UN, that is the West, will pay for it all. Cut them off. Then they will have to reach an accommodation with Israel. Gaza's birthrates are a product of the United Nations.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Romanian

  113. I’m gonna guess it’s a mistranslation of the word insular??

  114. The FM would appear to be empirical evidence supporting his hypothesis. Of course the correct, scientific way to test his hypothesis is to prove the negative, which therefore means the borders should be closed. But why let science stand in the way of progress?

  115. @candid_observer
    @tbraton

    It's actually quite a feat, to make $4B disappear into nothingness in a few months.

    Has this ever happened before, I wonder? I just don't know how it would be possible, except by some extraordinary fraud, and I can't think of a fraud of this magnitude. Or maybe in a stock market crash? But to lose over a billion dollars?

    Can anybody else think of comparable examples?

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Cwhatfuture, @SolontoCroesus, @Hodag, @tbraton, @Anonymous

    Ottoman Sultan Bayazid I went from control of Anatolia and absolute despot of his people and turned into Tamerlane’s slave after being captured at the Battle of Ankara. Timur would make the Sultan get down on all fours so Timur could mount his horse..

  116. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Romanian
    @Intelligent Dasein

    So what Africa needs to lower birthrates is a good war to keep people on their toes instead of spreading their legs? It doesn't really sound correct to me. Gaza has huge birthrates, it's how they go to war.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Marcus, @cwhatfuture

    What’s the betting that the enormous – and still rapidly increasing Gazan population, bred as we all well know as a ‘biological weapon’ against the Israelis, never actually manages to demographically swamp Israel at all, but ‘all of a sudden’ invites itself into Europe, and dumb bastard European politicians will more than gladly accept them all?

    Count on it happening. Count on it soon. Very soon.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    @Anonymous

    iirc Israel has dumped its African asylum seekers onto Europe before

  117. @Jefferson
    @Lagertha

    "hit with a bag of rocks (what the frack WAS in that bag that drew profuse bleeding from that yellow, polo shirt-clad young man in San Jose’?)"

    There was either a brick, glass, or broken glass in that bag.

    Replies: @Big Bill

    What ever happened to cobblestone streets? Back in those days the city government provided you with free ammunition for every riot.

  118. @The Practical Conservative
    OT: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/10/upshot/there-are-more-white-voters-than-people-think-thats-good-news-for-trump.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1

    This is interesting, I didn't see anyone posting about it, new take on the demographics problem for the election.

    Replies: @International Jew

    That’s actually quite an iSteve-y piece. Steve would have given it a better title though.

  119. What a pity! The Germanic peoples — Germans, English, Dutch, Scandinavians — spent a thousand years purging their gene pools of people with genetic tendencies toward clan-based, balance-of-terror social orders. They ended up as the world-class paradigms for rule-based societies. The positive: Law or order are conducive to highly complex, high-technology societies. The negative: A fixation on order got them into a lot of otherwise avoidable trouble in WWI and WWII.

    Now with massive immigration from MENA and sub-Saharan Africa, they get to start all over … all the while enjoying the cultural, sexual, and religious peccadilloes of the new immigrants such as cousin marriage, female circumcision and pedophilia, the repression of women’s rights, clan-based crime syndicates, a propensity toward governments controlled by “strongmen” and “warlords”, and universal governmental corruption … all with the comfort knowing that the new immigrants probably lack a single gene conducive to the disposition toward the rule-based societies that made the Germanic peoples the most technically advanced and wealthiest populations that have ever inhabited planet earth.

    It escapes me. What is the German word for social, cultural, and national suicide?

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @TheJester

    Landselbstmörder

    Replies: @TheJester

  120. Could someone who actually knows German please give us a decent translation of what Shauble said?

  121. The google translate feature might not be up to the job in this case. I do not speak German so cannot say for sure, but I know that the google translate feature is dodgy compared to a decent human translator.

  122. @Steve C
    Davos is said to actually be a mixture of public and private meetings, with much of the scheming being done at the private ones.

    Replies: @Karl

    >>> with much of the scheming being done at the private ones.

    call me a cynic. I believe that most of that “scheming” involves models and actresses, and other ambitious modern women who need to amortize their plastic surgery.

    If you have more money than brains – but still enough brains to know that (eg) ballooning around the world is a little ==too== SWPL….. then you can go to Davos, minlge with other SWPL, and probably get a (legal) defacto high-priced hooker

  123. every society needs to have some “last ends”, ultimate goals. “Being open” is no good option for such a last end, because it is not sustainable. There are only half a dozen or so world regions. Once they have mixed up it´s done. Also when you already mix up with everybody you do not need to be open. So no real last end, but rather something which can easily be achieved within decades. After that you have to look for something else anyway.
    Apart from that there is of course no mixing up at all. There is muslim and subsaharan African expansion at costs of everybody else and that´s it.

  124. @Arclight
    You know stuff is getting out of hands when high ranking German officials start waxing poetic about the benefits of eugenics.

    Replies: @Jeff, @bomag

    Zing!

    Is it that things are getting out of hand… or are things getting back on track?

    • Replies: @Arclight
    @bomag

    I would say the track record of Germany getting highly ambitious about wholesale societal change is less than stellar...I was joking with a friend that Germany is anxious to shed the past and the imagery of shipping undesirables out of the country on cattle cars yet that is probably what they will be forced to do again in the end with all the rapefugees once they realize they made a massive mistake that will bring down their vaunted society and quality of life.

  125. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Intelligent Dasein
    The idea that importing immigrants will help increase fertility rates is not going to be borne out empirically. It hasn't worked in the USA, for example, which currently has a TFR of 1.9 despite massive Hispanic immigration.

    When you think about it, mass migrations aren't very conducive to increasing populations, as the latter requires stability and mass migration is both a symptom and a cause of instability. There are not going to be many babies born in Germany's refugee centers, because there are few women and few intact family units there. There aren't going to be many babies born in Syria because many of the young men have ran off and the country is devastated by war. And notwithstanding the entirely appropriate moniker "rapefugees," German girls are not going to have children with Syrian migrants. They don't want to date them or marry them, they don't want to bear their children, and good luck getting a women to carry a child to term if, God forbid, she is raped in a country with emergency contraception and legalized abortion.

    Urbanized people have never been very good at reproducing themselves, and drawing in human matter from the four corners of the earth only forestalls the problem. Merkel's Boner is accelerating the demographic winter.

    As an aside, how many babies would you guess are not being born right now in Latin America, with Venezuela in a free fall, Brazil cracking up, Zika virus rampant, Antipope Francis blazing through and dog-whistling that "birth control may be acceptable in some cases," and many of the young people of marriageable age having already split the scene for the USA, where they will conform to the latter's sub-replacement birthrate within a generation?

    Replies: @Romanian, @Anonymous, @AndrewR, @Intelligent Dasein

    The late Lawrence Auster argued that drastically reducing immigration would improve the native birth rate.

    According to Auster:

    Immigration… has psychological effects that tend to lower the native birthrate. As Virginia Abernethy has argued in Population Politics, fertility rises when people feel hopeful about the future, and declines when they are pessimistic about the future. It is a remarkable fact that women emigrating from Third-World countries to the United States, where they perceive that their prospects are much improved, have more children than their countrywomen who stay at home. Conversely, whites in an increasingly Third-World America, where they foresee a less promising future for themselves and their children, are having fewer children than they would otherwise have done.

  126. @boogerbently
    @reiner Tor

    OT
    But I just noticed Razib deleted my comment comparing him to Jayman about threatening to delete comments.
    I didn't know they could do that on UNZ, just their own blog.
    Which means we can't get a real feel for reactions to articles, because the author can delete the negative or contrary arguments.
    Pretty narcissistic.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Realist, @Anon, @AndrewR, @boogerbently

    Jayman and Razib are both young guys, and that’s a young guy thing. When you get older and gain more confidence in your own ideas and opinions, and less prone to blowing up about everything, you become more inclined to tolerate contrary opinions in your personal space.

    • Replies: @boogerbently
    @Anon

    I'm thinking UNZ shouldn't allow that. UNZ should make the call on deleting comments.
    These snowflakes are trying to make the real world their own personal "safe space" like school was for them.

    , @Mark2
    @Anon

    Can't say that's been my experience. I've personally only grown more impatient with sjws, mainstream cons, and other breeds of imbecile as I've aged.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  127. @Grandpa Jack
    THIS GUY'S SPOT ON! Inbreeding was such a problem in Germany when it was populated entirely by white Germans that by 100 yrs ago, that the nation had basically turned itself into a desert from the incompetence of the farmers there. The people who could afford it, were riding around on camels (Camels! When the car was being produced here in the US). Most were homeless bedouins, roaming around cutting each other's heads off for a cup of water. They even had a culture where it was acceptable to marry young girls under 12! Multiple wives at that! Wolfgang Schäuble is absolutely right- the Muslims will definitely help to bring these inbred dirt farmers into the 21st century, with their peaceful lifestyle, their technological achievements, their acceptance of alternative religions, their ability to assimilate, their modern understanding of the role of women in society... the list goes on and on.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @anon

    And didn’t those Germans prefer using their left hand to wipe themselves over toilet paper? Disgusting. Truly, they have much to learn from these new arrivals.

  128. @Romanian
    @Intelligent Dasein

    So what Africa needs to lower birthrates is a good war to keep people on their toes instead of spreading their legs? It doesn't really sound correct to me. Gaza has huge birthrates, it's how they go to war.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Marcus, @cwhatfuture

    Same with Iraq and Afghanistan

  129. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @penntothal
    OT
    New president of Peru:
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/09/americas/peru-president-pedro-pablo-kuczynski/index.html

    White American World-Bank guy beat out Fujimori's daughter. Is being president "a job Peruvians won't / can't do?"

    Replies: @Anon, @Anonymous

    My suspicion is that Peru is gradually becoming a country where only the elites, namely those with non-indigenous Indian blood, are bothering to vote anymore, which is why they’re beginning to favor foreigners for politicians. Either that or clever foreigners from more elite races are outmaneuvering the locals, which could be true as well.

    As time goes on, it’s likely more and more third world countries will see either whites in charge as indigenous people give up on the competence and/or lack of ethical values of their own tribal peoples.

  130. @reiner Tor
    @candid_observer

    The 4 billion didn't exist in the first place. It was inflated valuation of her 50% share in Theranos.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    I’m assuming Ms Holmes managed to salt away $10 million or so in the course of this fabulous adventure. Enough to get by on after things went south, as she must have known they would. Somehow I think she’ll manage to live comfortably for the rest of her life. Correct me if I’m wrong.

  131. @Cwhatfuture
    @reiner Tor

    The destruction of the Persian and Byzantine Empires was a world calamity. The Middle East has never recovered and the Islamic successor Empires, despite all the propaganda never reached the level of civilization of either. The European colonial powers should have reclaimed the Middle East for the West and exiled Islam back to the desert. The fact they did not, but instead allowed themselves to be colonized, is astounding.

    Replies: @Marcus

    Also India, as hard as it is to believe looking at it today. India was maybe the wealthiest, most sophisticated civilization in the world before the invasions (which lasted almost a millennium and never fully succeeded due to sheer size and determined resistance) http://vinod11220.tripod.com/islamsciencelit.htm

  132. @Jeff
    @Tiny Duck

    As best as I can tell, you've lost pretty much every argument you've started here at unz. So, tell us, how does it feel?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    He’s not serious. Getting people annoyed and responding to his inane comments is his pay-off. He’s like a fly buzzing around in your room when you’re trying to sleep. Comment sections are infested with guys like this. Unfortunately, I haven’t been able to make the “block this commenter” feature work.

  133. @NickG
    @Hodag

    Most TED talks are pretentious bollocks*.

    A word I'm determined should cross to the Western side of the Atlantic.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Reg Cæsar

    Improv comedian Sam Hyde pranked a TED talk event in Philadelphia. Well worth a viewing.
    From an article in Philadelphia magazine:

    The event concluded with Sam Hyde, billed as a “video documentary filmmaker and journalist from Brooklyn” who “recently returned from Mogadishu, the most dangerous city on earth, where he shadowed the heroic al-Mahamud women on their quest to clean up their streets and restore humanity to their war-torn country.” TEDx organizer Dhairya Pujara introduced Hyde’s presentation, titled “2070 Paradigm Shift.”

    Hyde, 28, is not a journalist; he’s a member of the Massachusetts-based comedy troupe Million Dollar Extreme, which employs a type of shock-value comedy along the lines of a more goalless version of Yes Men sabotage. Hyde took the stage dressed in a crimson sweatsuit and clad in a gold Roman centurion breastplate and shin guards, did a kind of faux deep breathing preparation, reclined on the steps in front of the TEDx letters, and began his talk.

    “Guys, pat yourselves on the back right now, okay? I’m not gonna let you stop until I see everyone do it,” he began. “That pat on the back is for saving the world.” Hyde launched into a discursive presentation that touched on the “trash economy,” described a future in which gay men will develop the ability to procreate, and recounted his experience traveling to Africa with Elon Musk to give iPads to the impoverished:

    “Now, we looked at the data, and what we found surprised us. What we found was that culture is a sewer. We’ve got lewd media, nasty bedroom things on TV. And they’re sexualizing young girls and it’s getting to the point where even I have a problem with it. And it shouldn’t be that way.”

    • Replies: @IBC
    @Harry Baldwin

    Pretty sloppy, but still very funny and fitting. Reminds me of Hugh Laurie's "Protest Song" from A Bit of Fry and Laurie:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8chs2ncYIw

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

  134. @reiner Tor
    @SFG

    While Greg Clark proposes that MENA Christians got their smarts via selective attrition (i.e. poor Christians being unable to afford the jizya and so converting), Greg Cochran disagrees:


    I don’t consider selective attrition impossible, but since know that there are endogamous ethnoreligious groups in the Middle East that sure seem to be as bright as the European average (Maronites, Assyrian Christians, Iraqi Jews, etc), that were hill farmers rather than some sort of commercial elite, and that differ genetically from the general population of the Middle East (more like the Middle East used to be), maybe we don’t need two explanations when one (some groups simply stayed the same) staying the same) will do.
     

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Reg Cæsar, @Marcus

    I think it’s the opposite in most cases: the native elites were more likely to convert to keep their status and they were probably the most desired converts as well.

  135. @NickG
    @Hodag

    Most TED talks are pretentious bollocks*.

    A word I'm determined should cross to the Western side of the Atlantic.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Reg Cæsar

    Most TED talks are pretentious bollocks*.

    A word I’m determined should cross to the Western side of the Atlantic.

    It was beaten out by cojones, so you may be out of luck. On the other hand, many Mexicans are offended by its use, so maybe we’ll have to stop.

  136. @Lagertha
    @anonymous

    duh, get over it. Sometimes in life, you have no control...or you are not so special...or...ha, ha - thank goodness Steve does not outsource his blog to some idgits! Have fun or go home! Only the strong survive.

    Replies: @neutral

    Sometimes in life you should also be willing to accept that something is wrong, this comments system is wrong in many different ways.

  137. @backup
    @Steve Sailer

    I am going to react here as the Jefferson Airplane question pops up here. While I'm not from the sixties I read about it, especially via Tom Wolfe's Electric Cool-Aid Acidtest and in that book the original hippies clearly had a severe dislike for anything political. So in that respect JA is an outlier.

    http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/jerrygarci158233.html

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    … the original hippies clearly had a severe dislike for anything political.

    One of the guys in Moby Grape quit the band to join the Marines. At the height of the Vietnam War. Imagine that.

    • Replies: @backup
    @Reg Cæsar


    WENNER:
    But it wasn’t the “media” which killed the Haight.
    GARCIA:
    No. Do you want me to tell you the incident where I thought it started to get weird? I was walking down Haight Street, and all of a sudden in a window was a little notice. It said “Communications Company” – and it was that guy, what’s his name? Chester Anderson! And it was this horrible bummer of a depressing story about some 13-year-old meth freak getting raped by nine spades and smack heads... it was just a bummer. Bad news. This guy took it upon himself to print up bad news and put it up.

    Then he started putting out the whole “Free the Street” trip and he just brought in all this political heavy-handed East Coast hard-edge shit, and painted it on Haight Street, where none of it was...it wasn’t happening like that. It was still groovy. And that was the point where I thought, this scene cannot survive with that idea in there. It just goes all wrong.

    WENNER:
    At that point, Emmett Grogan began The Diggers and associated himself with those people, and they had a press conference...
    GARCIA:
    Emmett made a lot of mistakes in those days. We all did because at the time a lot of that stuff seemed like it was right and good. But what happened was it turned out to be destructive and a drag. In fact all that stuff just turned into publicity. It didn’t serve any purpose.
     
    http://www.jannswenner.com/archives/jerry_garcia_part1.aspx
    , @backup
    @Reg Cæsar

    I actually think that there is a divide that sprang up there that still is very visible in the West. Lot of people seem to think of conservatives as pin striped capitalists - Big Money - but the small time conservative is completely overlooked. That is why, I think, phenomenons such as Trump or the popularity FPÖ in Austria or Fortuyn in the Netherlands are so systematically underestimated by the "commentariat". The rejection of Islam in Europe is partly done by people that defend the sixties liberties, for one thing.

    , @The Alarmist
    @Reg Cæsar


    "One of the guys in Moby Grape quit the band to join the Marines. At the height of the Vietnam War. Imagine that."
     
    Archie Bell of "Tighten Up" fame let himself get drafted ... he survived Viet Nam, but his music career didn't.
  138. He’s not serious. Getting people annoyed and responding to his inane comments is his pay-off. He’s like a fly buzzing around in your room when you’re trying to sleep. Comment sections are infested with guys like this. Unfortunately, I haven’t been able to make the “block this commenter” feature work.

    What’s the diagnosis of trolls in general? I mean the creepy sort who never respond to anything and are clearly just out to troll because it fulfills some creepy need in their creepy heads? Masochism? They want to be abused? His political motives aside, he’s clearly a psycho.

    And yes, blocking him is obviously the only way to thwart him. Otherwise he gets to don his gimp mask and intone “thank you sir may I have another.”

  139. The ‘bergers are getting more and more open about their utter contempt for peasantry, as well. …Especially besieged whites in the West. Inbreeding, indeed. Although perils are great, it IS hilarious to watch Open Borders excuses dredged up so desperately from the bottom of the ass-backwards reasoning barrel.

  140. @Hunsdon
    Trolling?

    Did the "cuckservative" meme not make its way across the pond? There must be some awesome German word that says the same thing as cuckservative.

    The guy's trolling us, right? I mean, the timing, man, the timing.

    Replies: @Connecticut Famer, @Connecticut Famer, @Connecticut Famer, @HateCuisine, @SFg, @fish

    Eh….a guy whose dick hasn’t worked since October of 1990 might look to the swarthy hordes of Syria to get the job done for him!

  141. @TheJester
    What a pity! The Germanic peoples -- Germans, English, Dutch, Scandinavians -- spent a thousand years purging their gene pools of people with genetic tendencies toward clan-based, balance-of-terror social orders. They ended up as the world-class paradigms for rule-based societies. The positive: Law or order are conducive to highly complex, high-technology societies. The negative: A fixation on order got them into a lot of otherwise avoidable trouble in WWI and WWII.

    Now with massive immigration from MENA and sub-Saharan Africa, they get to start all over ... all the while enjoying the cultural, sexual, and religious peccadilloes of the new immigrants such as cousin marriage, female circumcision and pedophilia, the repression of women's rights, clan-based crime syndicates, a propensity toward governments controlled by "strongmen" and "warlords", and universal governmental corruption ... all with the comfort knowing that the new immigrants probably lack a single gene conducive to the disposition toward the rule-based societies that made the Germanic peoples the most technically advanced and wealthiest populations that have ever inhabited planet earth.

    It escapes me. What is the German word for social, cultural, and national suicide?

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Landselbstmörder

    • Replies: @TheJester
    @AndrewR

    Thank you AndrewR ... spot on! Love the way German strings words together to formulate more complex concepts.

    Again, it is hard to understand why intelligent Europeans would consider importing immigrant populations that constituent a permanent mix of welfare and criminal classes.

  142. @boogerbently
    @reiner Tor

    OT
    But I just noticed Razib deleted my comment comparing him to Jayman about threatening to delete comments.
    I didn't know they could do that on UNZ, just their own blog.
    Which means we can't get a real feel for reactions to articles, because the author can delete the negative or contrary arguments.
    Pretty narcissistic.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Realist, @Anon, @AndrewR, @boogerbently

    Yeah, both of them are special snowflakes who need safe spaces to avoid being triggered by dissent. I don’t bother with either one. They’re a discredit to this site.

  143. OT: Google manipulates search autocomplete to aid Hillary:

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Boomstick

    "Google manipulates search autocomplete to aid Hillary."

    So typing "cun--" into Google's search engine gives results for "Hillary Clinton"?

    I'm okay with that.

  144. @Reg Cæsar
    @backup


    ... the original hippies clearly had a severe dislike for anything political.
     
    One of the guys in Moby Grape quit the band to join the Marines. At the height of the Vietnam War. Imagine that.

    Replies: @backup, @backup, @The Alarmist

    WENNER:
    But it wasn’t the “media” which killed the Haight.
    GARCIA:
    No. Do you want me to tell you the incident where I thought it started to get weird? I was walking down Haight Street, and all of a sudden in a window was a little notice. It said “Communications Company” – and it was that guy, what’s his name? Chester Anderson! And it was this horrible bummer of a depressing story about some 13-year-old meth freak getting raped by nine spades and smack heads… it was just a bummer. Bad news. This guy took it upon himself to print up bad news and put it up.

    Then he started putting out the whole “Free the Street” trip and he just brought in all this political heavy-handed East Coast hard-edge shit, and painted it on Haight Street, where none of it was…it wasn’t happening like that. It was still groovy. And that was the point where I thought, this scene cannot survive with that idea in there. It just goes all wrong.

    WENNER:
    At that point, Emmett Grogan began The Diggers and associated himself with those people, and they had a press conference…
    GARCIA:
    Emmett made a lot of mistakes in those days. We all did because at the time a lot of that stuff seemed like it was right and good. But what happened was it turned out to be destructive and a drag. In fact all that stuff just turned into publicity. It didn’t serve any purpose.

    http://www.jannswenner.com/archives/jerry_garcia_part1.aspx

  145. @bomag
    @Arclight

    Zing!

    Is it that things are getting out of hand... or are things getting back on track?

    Replies: @Arclight

    I would say the track record of Germany getting highly ambitious about wholesale societal change is less than stellar…I was joking with a friend that Germany is anxious to shed the past and the imagery of shipping undesirables out of the country on cattle cars yet that is probably what they will be forced to do again in the end with all the rapefugees once they realize they made a massive mistake that will bring down their vaunted society and quality of life.

  146. There’s two kinds of people who are obsessed with jews:

    1. nazis
    2. jews

    I just thought of that while reading through David Horowtiz’s ‘Disqus’ comment history.

    • Replies: @OLD JEW
    @Anonymous

    is this the same David Horowitz editor of "The Times of Israel" ?

  147. @Tiny Duck
    How does it feel? Knowing that you have lost and will never be in power again?

    Replies: @biz, @Lagertha, @Dirk Dagger, @Jeff, @fish

    How does it feel? Knowing that you have lost and will never be in power again?

    Yes, yes….we’re out of power…again. Now you can retreat back to moms basement to successfully “rub one out”.

    Jeez Tiny at least try and be entertaining occasionally!

  148. @Reg Cæsar
    @backup


    ... the original hippies clearly had a severe dislike for anything political.
     
    One of the guys in Moby Grape quit the band to join the Marines. At the height of the Vietnam War. Imagine that.

    Replies: @backup, @backup, @The Alarmist

    I actually think that there is a divide that sprang up there that still is very visible in the West. Lot of people seem to think of conservatives as pin striped capitalists – Big Money – but the small time conservative is completely overlooked. That is why, I think, phenomenons such as Trump or the popularity FPÖ in Austria or Fortuyn in the Netherlands are so systematically underestimated by the “commentariat”. The rejection of Islam in Europe is partly done by people that defend the sixties liberties, for one thing.

  149. So once again, we’re gonna end up with a world in flames, thanks to German racial anxiety — this time from the opposite extreme. Terrific.

  150. Just talked to a nice German lady, 82 years old, smart as a whip. She grew up, and has seen it all in Germany. Moved here after the war, became a citizen. Travels back to Germany to visit relatives and her favorite cities there a couple of times a year.

    She said visited Munich a few months ago. Her favorite city. Said the place was a complete mess. Full of assorted 3rd world immigrants. Completely changed the city for the worse. All in just a few years. She’s visited Munich every year for decades. Said she’s never going back.
    Hates Merkel.

    It’s funny. I’ve spent a few months with British families, and German families. None of whom have ever been to the US. I found the Germans to be a hell of a lot easier to get along with than the Brits. Brits seem to be caught up in the manners game, while Germans are very action oriented. They make a decision, and go for it. Brits talk about doing things, then finally do it–and a lot of times half-assed. Also, German sense of humor is very dry and direct. Brits are passive-aggressive fucks.

    Makes me wonder if we might have been better off tanning Japanese hide, take in jewish refugee’s but otherwise sitting out WWII.

    Once we committed to staying out, DeGaulle and Churchill would have sued for peace, Hitler would have beaten the tar out of Stalin, communism would have withered on the world stage, the concentration camp atrocities probably wouldn’t have happened, Hitler’s heart condition would have did him in by 1946, Goering would probably have turned out all right as Chancellor. He was the least obnoxious of Hitler’s bunch. He always struck me as a guy who was just trying to have a nice day. He wasn’t very happy when the Brits declared war. He acted like it was going to screw up all his house remodeling plans. He was far less obnoxious than Himmler. He could have clipped Himmler’s wings after the war. We’d still have the bomb as a bargaining tool. A lot less Americans would be dead, we wouldn’t be dealing with the bullshit we are now, and when touring Europe we could rent a beemer and take the autobahn at 180mph from Berlin to Siberia–and beemers and mercedes would still be manufactured by Germans instead of Mexicans.

    What good was WWII anyway?! Brought us nothing but grief, I tell you!

    Grief… and it made us mean!

    • Replies: @Bill B.
    @V Vega

    Britain didn't have to fight Hitler of course. It chose to. But comments hereabouts on this never mention Churchill's point that the German totalitarian movement would never be happy standing on its gains, it would always move forward in attack. Ergo it had to be defeated.

    One can debate this; perhaps Hitler could have been contained. After all as Peter Hitchens points out Germany is anyway getting now the land space it has wanted since the 19th Century:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyaD_e72FRw&list=PLettVydXyiqoX4OSvSGoubwI0E04A-VQr&index=4

    The USA, it might be pointed out, did not chose to ignore the USSR; it was indeed rarely content with mere containment.

    *Many commentators down the centuries have complained that British culture - social style really - disappoints or proves elusive. But surely that is because it is not a demonstrative culture and is a rather cool one at that. Sometimes the British appear awkward socially as if still testing out a social role. Partly this is a result of crumbling of the social conventions that oiled the workings of a multilayers society.

    The pub has been extraordinarily important as a neutral meeting place with alcohol disinhibitors to encourage interaction that, as an institution, has severely deteriorated under social and economic pressures. Political correctness has proven disastrous in a society were overt roles and ambitions were already muffled.

    Yet the British I think do not make good Americans, nor good Germans, and cannot simply shrug off their old ways.

    Didn't Steve have a post a while back suggesting that in social style at least Americans were more German than British.

    -Crude sense of humour; lack of irony; action-orientated, etc IIRC.

    Replies: @guest

  151. @Anon
    @boogerbently

    Jayman and Razib are both young guys, and that's a young guy thing. When you get older and gain more confidence in your own ideas and opinions, and less prone to blowing up about everything, you become more inclined to tolerate contrary opinions in your personal space.

    Replies: @boogerbently, @Mark2

    I’m thinking UNZ shouldn’t allow that. UNZ should make the call on deleting comments.
    These snowflakes are trying to make the real world their own personal “safe space” like school was for them.

  152. Schaeuble´s demented comment can only be explained as the start of his election campaign for federal president in 2017, virtue-signaling to the open-borders fanatics.

  153. @Anonymous
    @Romanian

    What's the betting that the enormous - and still rapidly increasing Gazan population, bred as we all well know as a 'biological weapon' against the Israelis, never actually manages to demographically swamp Israel at all, but 'all of a sudden' invites itself into Europe, and dumb bastard European politicians will more than gladly accept them all?

    Count on it happening. Count on it soon. Very soon.

    Replies: @Marcus

    iirc Israel has dumped its African asylum seekers onto Europe before

  154. Wow, they must be getting desperate, if they’re trying to convince grown, adult Western people that a nation the size of Germany isn’t large enough to constitute a viable, breeding population. One might as well suggest that if we don’t allow Muslims into Germany, that Santa Claus will no longer deliver presents on Christmas Eve, because he doesn’t like “racists.”

  155. @boogerbently
    @reiner Tor

    OT
    But I just noticed Razib deleted my comment comparing him to Jayman about threatening to delete comments.
    I didn't know they could do that on UNZ, just their own blog.
    Which means we can't get a real feel for reactions to articles, because the author can delete the negative or contrary arguments.
    Pretty narcissistic.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Realist, @Anon, @AndrewR, @boogerbently

    Then my comment stating UNZ should control which comments get deleted, got deleted.
    Sad.

    • Replies: @Thea
    @boogerbently

    People who complain about commenting policies should start their own blog, pay for hosting it and spend their free time moderating what strangers on the Internet choose to post on a website they pay for.

    Personally, I like that the comment threads don't get to huge as to be unreadable.

  156. @candid_observer
    @tbraton

    It's actually quite a feat, to make $4B disappear into nothingness in a few months.

    Has this ever happened before, I wonder? I just don't know how it would be possible, except by some extraordinary fraud, and I can't think of a fraud of this magnitude. Or maybe in a stock market crash? But to lose over a billion dollars?

    Can anybody else think of comparable examples?

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Cwhatfuture, @SolontoCroesus, @Hodag, @tbraton, @Anonymous

    As reiner Tor has pointed out, those values were based necessarily on estimates, since Theranos was a privately-held corporation, not a publicly-traded one. In fact, when Steve first posted about Theranos last fall, I responded by saying that, if Theranos were publicly traded, I would short it. I based my judgment largely on the fact that the board assembled by Ms. Holmes seemed to be comprised of superannuated, over-the-hill Washington “experts” with little experience in business, a sure sign of failure imo. After all, if Henry Kissinger would endorse GWB’s Iraq War in 2003 and 8 years later blame his horrendous call on “faulty intelligence,” an area of foreign policy where he can claim some level of expertise, why would I have confidence in his judgment that Theranos was a legitimate, profit-making company, when he appears to have absolutely no knowledge of the extremely complicated and technical legal and scientific requirements involved? I recall reading that Ms. Holmes had not sold a single share of Theranos. It was clear that they were prepping Theranos for an Initial Public Offering, when most of the investors in Theranos would be unloading their stock in exchange for real money to a gullible public, anxious to share in the profits of this miracle company. Unfortunately, they encountered a few bumps in the road that they weren’t expecting before they could unload their dog on an unsuspecting public.

  157. @Reg Cæsar
    @reiner Tor

    Christianity, Roman and Eastern, strongly discouraged consanguine marriages. Islam did not. That would make a big difference over the centuries.

    The only direct comparison I've seen showed that among Palestinians, Moslems out-inbred Christians 29% to 16%. And those figures are likely respectively low and high for their faiths.

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Nico

    The reduced numbers have left ME Christians with a smaller gene pool but the heavy selectivity pressures of living in Islamic lands have probably given them a higher-than-average quality one, in which case light inbreeding could be advantageous as it tends to close in with a deleterious effect on undesirable traits.

  158. @Intelligent Dasein
    The idea that importing immigrants will help increase fertility rates is not going to be borne out empirically. It hasn't worked in the USA, for example, which currently has a TFR of 1.9 despite massive Hispanic immigration.

    When you think about it, mass migrations aren't very conducive to increasing populations, as the latter requires stability and mass migration is both a symptom and a cause of instability. There are not going to be many babies born in Germany's refugee centers, because there are few women and few intact family units there. There aren't going to be many babies born in Syria because many of the young men have ran off and the country is devastated by war. And notwithstanding the entirely appropriate moniker "rapefugees," German girls are not going to have children with Syrian migrants. They don't want to date them or marry them, they don't want to bear their children, and good luck getting a women to carry a child to term if, God forbid, she is raped in a country with emergency contraception and legalized abortion.

    Urbanized people have never been very good at reproducing themselves, and drawing in human matter from the four corners of the earth only forestalls the problem. Merkel's Boner is accelerating the demographic winter.

    As an aside, how many babies would you guess are not being born right now in Latin America, with Venezuela in a free fall, Brazil cracking up, Zika virus rampant, Antipope Francis blazing through and dog-whistling that "birth control may be acceptable in some cases," and many of the young people of marriageable age having already split the scene for the USA, where they will conform to the latter's sub-replacement birthrate within a generation?

    Replies: @Romanian, @Anonymous, @AndrewR, @Intelligent Dasein

    “German girls are not going to have children with Syrian migrants. They don’t want to date them or marry them, they don’t want to bear their children, ”

    cite

  159. It’s kind a funny thing that the most influential Polish politician could be the most unknown guy who was very influential in funding Bilderberg group (Józeg Retinger). He was almost assasinated by Home Army at one point (when he was in 1944 parachuted into Poland with secret mission from Polish Government in Exile)

  160. @Reg Cæsar
    @backup


    ... the original hippies clearly had a severe dislike for anything political.
     
    One of the guys in Moby Grape quit the band to join the Marines. At the height of the Vietnam War. Imagine that.

    Replies: @backup, @backup, @The Alarmist

    “One of the guys in Moby Grape quit the band to join the Marines. At the height of the Vietnam War. Imagine that.”

    Archie Bell of “Tighten Up” fame let himself get drafted … he survived Viet Nam, but his music career didn’t.

  161. @anonymous
    "Ha. It’s the rapefugee darlings themselves who are already inbred and have been doing so for a thousand years or more. It’s they who would benefit from breaking the in-breeding cycle, though I doubt there is any benefit for the posterity of the unfortunate German involved."

    You express my thoughts of late.

    It's obvious that the leading lights in the West, in advocating importing and assimilating millions of backwards Muslims have decided that the only way to bring them out of the Dark Ages is by interbreeding them with we Europeans. Of course they can't express it that way, so they simply keep the sentence structure the same but reverse all the terms, telling us that it is we who stand to benefit.

    The problem is that there are not enough Europeans to raise the IQ of the teeming billions of African and Islamic morons. Our good traits will be obliterated long before their collective IQs move five points.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    A few million European men could easily keep every fertile woman on earth pregnant from puberty until menopause.

  162. Yeah man, just look at all that ‘degeneration’ in old isolated europe during its thousand year ascendancy.

    Do these people even have any concept of history or nature? Do they have any imagination at all with which they can make a functioning model of the world? In all things in all places in all times, distinct populations have been removed from each other and beholden only to their own. To countermand this trend of reality is surely against divine law.

    There is no precident, no example, to make anything think that could possibly be a good idea.

  163. @Romanian
    @Intelligent Dasein

    So what Africa needs to lower birthrates is a good war to keep people on their toes instead of spreading their legs? It doesn't really sound correct to me. Gaza has huge birthrates, it's how they go to war.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Marcus, @cwhatfuture

    Gaza has a “biological weapon” because the UN, that is the West, simply pays Gazans to breed. Their food, their basic shelter, their schools are all taken care of by the UNRWA. There are no consequences for them having 6 children per mother because the UN, that is the West, will pay for it all. Cut them off. Then they will have to reach an accommodation with Israel. Gaza’s birthrates are a product of the United Nations.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @cwhatfuture


    Gaza has a “biological weapon” because the UN, that is the West, simply pays Gazans to breed. Their food, their basic shelter, their schools are all taken care of by the UNRWA.
     
    Well said. It's yet another example of the damage that welfare culture does.

    The Israelis have left. They should turn over whatever they are left doing and just maintain their wall\separation. Then get the UN out. And let the Gazans fend for themselves.

    People who have to look after themselves make better decisions than those who don't. It's pretty much reality 101.
    , @Romanian
    @cwhatfuture

    What you say is true, but incomplete. The spoiler in this picture is Eastern Europe, where relative and, for the most part, rising affluence has not translated into higher birthrates, even though basic needs are met. So, even though needs are being met, the population sees itself primarily as being economically disadvantaged and, so, foregoes having large families and did so from the first moment it could in order to concentrate resources on just one or two children. Why don't Gazans do the same, taking advantage of the interventions of others to raise them from penury? It's not like the Eastern EU, having guaranteed access to W. European labor markets, could not overcharge its population growth with little worry that we could not export our surplus peoples. Yet, we are rapidly diminishing, while Gazans have quadrupled within my lifetime, despite being considered by the world under siege. I doubt that Eastern Euros would have done the same in the place of the Gazans.

    An interesting article

    http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/04/gaza-growing-population-challences.html


    “The population of the small Strip, whose area is 365 square kilometers [141 square miles], passed 1.865 million in March, or 5,109 people per square kilometer. Thus, the Gaza Strip is on the list of the most densely populated areas in the world,”
    .......
    “The increase of the population in the Gaza Strip is excessive; it is very large. Between 2000 and 2013, the number of Gazans increased by more than 687,000 people.”A UNRWA report published in 2012 said that by 2020 Gaza’s population will reach 2.1 million, and pointed out that basic infrastructure such as electricity, water, sanitation and social services cannot keep up with the needs of the growing population. The Gaza Strip needs much more electricity, hundreds of new schools and hospitals and thousands of housing units by the year 2020.
    ..........
    Experts attribute this increase in population to the high fertility rate of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. The executive director of the Association of Family Planning and Protection, Muyassar Abu Mailaq, told Al-Monitor that the fertility rate for the people of Gaza has long been up to 5.7 children per woman. He said, “According to my work, family-planning methods in all government clinics and those affiliated with UNRWA are available. But some causes have led to increased fertility, thanks to eastern customs and traditions. Palestinian families like procreation, and they don’t consider five or six to be a large number.”

    Abu Mailaq said that Gaza's fertility rate would be considered high even for developed countries with a high average income, let alone for a besieged territory suffering a blockade, extreme poverty, high unemployment and low per capita income.
    .....
    It is worth mentioning that in Palestine, along with other Arab countries, laws limiting the number of children per family, such as those in China, are unthinkable. The issue is considered a matter of personal freedom.

    Ahmed Fadel, a taxi driver in his 70s who is married to four women, told Al-Monitor that he has 22 children, the youngest of whom is a 5-month-old girl.

    Along with the help of some of his adult sons, Fadel is barely able to cover the expenses of his large family, consisting of more than 55 people, including his four wives and grandchildren. But Fadel insists he likes having a large family, saying, "My father liked big families, and I have 15 brothers. Most of my relatives like to have large families. We don't like having two, three or even five. Large families are a good thing, and God will provide for us."

    As for Hassan Sobh, 27, who married six years ago, he believes that having many children is not a problem, as a big family provides "protection."

    Sobh, who works as a construction worker, told Al-Monitor that he wants a large family, perhaps as many as 20 children. He said, "I now have four sons. Despite the difficult economic situation facing us, I will not stop having children. I love [having children], and there is nothing preventing me from having more."

    With the increased population, the proportion of poor people in the Gaza Strip has increased to about 39% of the population, according to the Palestinian Center for Statistics. More than 21% of the population lives in extreme poverty.
     
    I like the part about China. For all of these underdeveloped, dysfunctional and hyperfertile countries, passing the "China test" for reducing birthrates would be the clearest sign that the people, the culture and the government are amenable to rapid, top-down, development. If Nigeria could pull it off, I would be optimistic about its fate. Iran is the only country that comes to mind that could switch fertility on and off seemingly at will and is poised for rapid development (though it is not, by any means, currently underdeveloped).

    Replies: @anon

  164. Totally OT:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/09/nyregion/manhattan-street-is-renamed-after-norman-rockwell.html

    If “of color” students in NYC can appreciate Norman Rockwell, it’s difficult to understand why certain political writers feel a need to condemn him (artistic tastes aside).

    Here’s “White Bread Still Life” from 1949:

    http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2016/american-art-n09503/lot.24.html

  165. @Boomstick
    OT: Google manipulates search autocomplete to aid Hillary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFxFRqNmXKg

    Replies: @Kylie

    “Google manipulates search autocomplete to aid Hillary.”

    So typing “cun–” into Google’s search engine gives results for “Hillary Clinton”?

    I’m okay with that.

  166. @PiltdownMan
    You would think that Germans would have learned to leave the questions of eugenics severely alone.

    The last time they tried to get a handle on the subject, 75 years ago or so, they very nearly destroyed themselves. Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble views, if taken up, will surely do the same, albeit by causing them to slew wildly in the opposite direction and vanish as a people.

    Look, you volk are just not very good at this. The rest of us will decide if you've lost all your commonsense—which you appear to do periodically—and let you know.

    This is one of those times. Just ease up on the mad immigration and you'll be ok, awright?

    Replies: @SFG, @anon, @Joe Sweet

    You would think that Germans would have learned to leave the questions of eugenics severely alone.

    The last time they tried to get a handle on the subject, 75 years ago or so, they very nearly destroyed themselves.

    Ah, pretty sure it was the merciless dropping of bombs, followed by mass murder and other atrocities by the Allied forces that “nearly destroyed” the Germans.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Joe Sweet



    You would think that Germans would have learned to leave the questions of eugenics severely alone.

    The last time they tried to get a handle on the subject, 75 years ago or so, they very nearly destroyed themselves.



    Ah, pretty sure it was the merciless dropping of bombs, followed by mass murder and other atrocities by the Allied forces that “nearly destroyed” the Germans.
     
    It wasn't messing with "eugenics" that "nearly destroy" the Germans--that was invading other countries (imperialism). Nor were the Germans "nearly destroyed" by the Allies resulting mass slaughter of Germans.

    The truth is in 1945, millions of Europeans were dead, but Europe was alive. Germany--there last fall visiting friends--is a *very* nice place. (Heck of a lot nicer than most places--certainly most cities--in America.)

    What will actually destroy Germany--and the West--is this leftist multicultural silliness. I can only hope some of that old German martial spirit revives, reanimates and saddles up to at least carve out some zone for the non-crazy Germans to live free as Germans. And the same for other Europeans.

    My rough take is most Europeans do not support their displacement and wish to live as Europeans and fully European nations. But the majority is simply too comatose and propagandized by hostile elites to actually protest and vote to demand it.

    Replies: @ben tillman

  167. @Harry Baldwin
    @NickG

    Improv comedian Sam Hyde pranked a TED talk event in Philadelphia. Well worth a viewing.
    From an article in Philadelphia magazine:


    The event concluded with Sam Hyde, billed as a “video documentary filmmaker and journalist from Brooklyn” who “recently returned from Mogadishu, the most dangerous city on earth, where he shadowed the heroic al-Mahamud women on their quest to clean up their streets and restore humanity to their war-torn country.” TEDx organizer Dhairya Pujara introduced Hyde’s presentation, titled “2070 Paradigm Shift.”

    Hyde, 28, is not a journalist; he’s a member of the Massachusetts-based comedy troupe Million Dollar Extreme, which employs a type of shock-value comedy along the lines of a more goalless version of Yes Men sabotage. Hyde took the stage dressed in a crimson sweatsuit and clad in a gold Roman centurion breastplate and shin guards, did a kind of faux deep breathing preparation, reclined on the steps in front of the TEDx letters, and began his talk.

    “Guys, pat yourselves on the back right now, okay? I’m not gonna let you stop until I see everyone do it,” he began. “That pat on the back is for saving the world.” Hyde launched into a discursive presentation that touched on the “trash economy,” described a future in which gay men will develop the ability to procreate, and recounted his experience traveling to Africa with Elon Musk to give iPads to the impoverished:

    “Now, we looked at the data, and what we found surprised us. What we found was that culture is a sewer. We’ve got lewd media, nasty bedroom things on TV. And they’re sexualizing young girls and it’s getting to the point where even I have a problem with it. And it shouldn’t be that way.”
     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cflCyyEA2I

    Replies: @IBC

    Pretty sloppy, but still very funny and fitting. Reminds me of Hugh Laurie’s “Protest Song” from A Bit of Fry and Laurie:

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @IBC

    Pretty sloppy

    Yeah, I bit too much of the improv element. Still, I applaud the effort and it appears the audience had no idea what to make of him.

  168. @candid_observer
    @tbraton

    It's actually quite a feat, to make $4B disappear into nothingness in a few months.

    Has this ever happened before, I wonder? I just don't know how it would be possible, except by some extraordinary fraud, and I can't think of a fraud of this magnitude. Or maybe in a stock market crash? But to lose over a billion dollars?

    Can anybody else think of comparable examples?

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Cwhatfuture, @SolontoCroesus, @Hodag, @tbraton, @Anonymous

    It took $5B for Vitoria Nuland to give Crimea back to Russia in one day. It beats Elizabeth Holmes by far.

  169. @anony-mouse
    Can't anybody here look on the bright side?

    A major Euro leader is thinking HBD-like.

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Olorin

    No, thinking HBD-like would be recognizing that all inbreeding isn’t equal. In humans any more than in, say, Holstein-Friesian cows.

    But maybe he’s one of the Deutscher horsy set (he’s not) who thinks that all things biological are improved with Arab intermixing. Since, you know, some German breeds of horses have been. You know, entirely on their own. Throw em all together. It all works out. Somehow.

    Readers unfamiliar with the “cousin marriage conundrum” might start here:

    https://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/cousin-marriage-conundrum-addendum/

  170. @Glossy
    I see that Charles Murray was among the Bilderberg attendees.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @rod1963

    It’s not surprising. Murray is pretty much a old school elitist who has more in common ideologically with the globalists and race replacement doyens than your average American – whom he has no use for.

    And he has no children, hence no skin in the game.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @rod1963

    "And he has no children, hence no skin in the game."

    Except for his four children ...

  171. Why don’t the nordic countries invite more people from Catholic Europe? It would be a win-win. Inviting Muslims and negros when there are millions of much more racially-close youth in the rest of Europe who live in places with poor economies. Ten million Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians, Irishmen and Poles could in no way be more harmful than a million Muslims.

  172. @Reg Cæsar
    @Cwhatfuture


    But they won’t let Germans touch their daughters or sisters.
     
    What self-respecting German would even want to? They're not covered up to hide their attractiveness.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    I’m sure females of all ethnicities are beating down your door, eh Mr Stud??

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @AndrewR

    I already have the one I need, thank you. No need to amass four.

  173. @IBC
    @Harry Baldwin

    Pretty sloppy, but still very funny and fitting. Reminds me of Hugh Laurie's "Protest Song" from A Bit of Fry and Laurie:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8chs2ncYIw

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Pretty sloppy

    Yeah, I bit too much of the improv element. Still, I applaud the effort and it appears the audience had no idea what to make of him.

  174. @reiner Tor
    @Anonymous

    It applies more to Merkel.

    Actually I think Schäuble's point regarding the Greeks (they should be forced out of the Eurozone, and then provided debt forgiveness and foreign aid) made a lot of sense. The Greeks didn't accept it out of sheer stupidity. Creating the Eurozone proved disastrous for most participants, in the long run, everybody will lose by it.

    Replies: @neon2

    When I lived in Germany my impression of Schäuble was of a sensible right 0f center politician who didn’t stand any nonsense from the Left.
    What in God’s name has happened to him?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @neon2


    What in God’s name has happened to him?
     
    Those who advocate for whites to wake up to their own racial/ethnic/national identity fail to appreciate the extent to which many whites, including these days nearly all those with power and influence, left and right, already have a white identity, though it's "white" as in "blank": post-racial, post-ethnic, post-national.

    Those who've taken on that identity for themselves would not have that power or influence if they distinguished among people or peoples on the grounds of race, ethnicity, or, now, nation. The unwillingness to do so, or even think so, is part of the price one ways for membership in that tribe.
  175. @Auntie Analogue
    Speaking of inbreeding, is "German" Finance Minister Schnäuble a dumbkopf, or is he simply ignorant of the ubiquity of Moslem clan-centric cousin marriage?

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Olorin

    Auntie, Schäuble and his entire family–siblings, wife, four offspring–live a rarefied and closed-circle existence in the power broker echelons of Germany and Europe.

    At his 70th birthday party, the “deliverers of the keynote speeches” were Angela Merkel, the head of his party, in which he’s been a leader since the 1990s, and whose apron strings he’s held for at least 35 years, and IMF big mahoff*** Christine Lagarde.

    Which has got to be the dictionary definition of “snoretastic wankfest.” (Should I live to 70, festivities will involve a feral pig hunt in Texas, an artisan aquavit taste-off, and a Rory Gallagher air guitar contest.)

    I poked around in Schäuble”s family and political history. Apparently in his family they don’t feel a need to marry cousins–or outside their genetics. But that’s the Rx for the rest of Germans.

    Schäuble identifies himself as an evangelical Lutheran.

    https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wolfgang-schaeuble.de%2F&edit-text=

    Nothing like modern-day Protestants for throwing open the gates of Vienna. “Come in, ye Least Of These My Brethren, in Jesus’ name! Have some food, some housing, some medical care, our women, yea verily, our genetics! For we are sinners and must expiate our sin.”

    Through, oddly, works.

    There’s more about Schäuble…but let me rest the keys and your eyes now.

    ***”Big mahoff” as used in Philadelphia. Not implying Lagarde is (((Yiddishly inclined))). She is reported in Wikipedia as being a Roman Catholic and “health-conscious vegetarian who rarely drinks alcohol,…Lagarde’s hobbies include regular trips to the gym, cycling, and swimming.”

  176. @Anon
    @boogerbently

    Jayman and Razib are both young guys, and that's a young guy thing. When you get older and gain more confidence in your own ideas and opinions, and less prone to blowing up about everything, you become more inclined to tolerate contrary opinions in your personal space.

    Replies: @boogerbently, @Mark2

    Can’t say that’s been my experience. I’ve personally only grown more impatient with sjws, mainstream cons, and other breeds of imbecile as I’ve aged.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Mark2

    Those aren't examples of contrary opinions offered in good faith but rather bad faith rationalizations for denying your opinions any hearing at all.

  177. German_reader says:

    Actually Schäuble didn’t limit his inbreeding comments to Germany, as a EU fanatic he claimed it was a threat for all of Europe (you see, Merkel and the rest of the Christian Democrats still want to force other European countries to take their “fair” share of migrants).

    • Replies: @anon
    @German_reader

    All the more reason to bail out of the moribund EU. GO BREXIT!!

  178. @Grandpa Jack
    THIS GUY'S SPOT ON! Inbreeding was such a problem in Germany when it was populated entirely by white Germans that by 100 yrs ago, that the nation had basically turned itself into a desert from the incompetence of the farmers there. The people who could afford it, were riding around on camels (Camels! When the car was being produced here in the US). Most were homeless bedouins, roaming around cutting each other's heads off for a cup of water. They even had a culture where it was acceptable to marry young girls under 12! Multiple wives at that! Wolfgang Schäuble is absolutely right- the Muslims will definitely help to bring these inbred dirt farmers into the 21st century, with their peaceful lifestyle, their technological achievements, their acceptance of alternative religions, their ability to assimilate, their modern understanding of the role of women in society... the list goes on and on.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @anon

    Excellent post. And you are bang on. The Arabs will turn Germany from a backward, impoverished, technologically inferior, illiterate third world country into a modern middle east state. Oh Wait a minute..,….

  179. @German_reader
    Actually Schäuble didn't limit his inbreeding comments to Germany, as a EU fanatic he claimed it was a threat for all of Europe (you see, Merkel and the rest of the Christian Democrats still want to force other European countries to take their "fair" share of migrants).

    Replies: @anon

    All the more reason to bail out of the moribund EU. GO BREXIT!!

  180. Interesting that Radek Sikorski, former foreign minister
    of Poland (now at Harvard) and his wife Anne Applebaum
    are in attendance at this year’s conference in Dresden. Both
    are ardent anglophiles who thought nothing of spending
    a ton of money to send their two sons to Eton.

    The person who initiated the Bilderberg conferences in 1954
    was also from Poland. His name was Józef Retinger (1888-1960),
    and was one of the most interesting personages of that era.
    His father, the personal assistant to Count Zamoyski in
    Poland, sent his prodigiously talented son to Paris where
    he earned a doctorate at the Sorbonne at 20. Retinger was
    extremely well connected, he knew everybody including
    Joseph Conrad (Korzeniowski), another anglophile, who
    after 20 years of seafaring was living in Kent, southeast of
    London. Between the wars Retinger had free access to the
    White House AND 10 Downing Street, and along with
    Paderewski greatly contributed to Poland regaining
    independence.

    All of these individuals, Count Zamoyski, Conrad, Retinger,
    and perhaps Sikorski as well (although he is not shy about
    using gutter language) have felt that Europe should be ruled
    less by the bourgeoisie (with its crassness and conspicuous
    consumption which is ecologically unsustainable in this day
    and age) but rather by the nobility with its aristocratic values
    and the spirit of noblesse oblige . That doesn’t mean going
    back to the Hapsburgs although many Central Europeans
    would agree that they weren’t so bad

    • Replies: @Bies Podkrakowski
    @Anon 2

    You mean that all of it could be a Polish conspiracy?

    Because this site likes crazy conspiracies and their cultural underpinnings I would like you to note old polish poem by Adam Mickiewicz - "Konrad Wallenrod" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_Wallenrod

    It was quite popular among Poles, when Polish state didn't exists or was controlled by external powers and everybody was romantic and crazy about armed uprisings, independence and conspiracies. Note please that Chancellor Merkel is partly of Polish ancestry.

    This puts things in a crazy new light. Could it be that Merkel destroys Germany to avenge old injustices?

    Replies: @Anon 2

    , @guest
    @Anon 2

    What nobility? It's dead and gone. Or at least there's not enough of it left to run a country. Maybe Lichtenstein.

  181. @boogerbently
    @boogerbently

    Then my comment stating UNZ should control which comments get deleted, got deleted.
    Sad.

    Replies: @Thea

    People who complain about commenting policies should start their own blog, pay for hosting it and spend their free time moderating what strangers on the Internet choose to post on a website they pay for.

    Personally, I like that the comment threads don’t get to huge as to be unreadable.

  182. @Mark2
    @Anon

    Can't say that's been my experience. I've personally only grown more impatient with sjws, mainstream cons, and other breeds of imbecile as I've aged.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Those aren’t examples of contrary opinions offered in good faith but rather bad faith rationalizations for denying your opinions any hearing at all.

  183. @cwhatfuture
    @Romanian

    Gaza has a "biological weapon" because the UN, that is the West, simply pays Gazans to breed. Their food, their basic shelter, their schools are all taken care of by the UNRWA. There are no consequences for them having 6 children per mother because the UN, that is the West, will pay for it all. Cut them off. Then they will have to reach an accommodation with Israel. Gaza's birthrates are a product of the United Nations.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Romanian

    Gaza has a “biological weapon” because the UN, that is the West, simply pays Gazans to breed. Their food, their basic shelter, their schools are all taken care of by the UNRWA.

    Well said. It’s yet another example of the damage that welfare culture does.

    The Israelis have left. They should turn over whatever they are left doing and just maintain their wall\separation. Then get the UN out. And let the Gazans fend for themselves.

    People who have to look after themselves make better decisions than those who don’t. It’s pretty much reality 101.

  184. @neon2
    @reiner Tor

    When I lived in Germany my impression of Schäuble was of a sensible right 0f center politician who didn't stand any nonsense from the Left.
    What in God's name has happened to him?

    Replies: @Desiderius

    What in God’s name has happened to him?

    Those who advocate for whites to wake up to their own racial/ethnic/national identity fail to appreciate the extent to which many whites, including these days nearly all those with power and influence, left and right, already have a white identity, though it’s “white” as in “blank”: post-racial, post-ethnic, post-national.

    Those who’ve taken on that identity for themselves would not have that power or influence if they distinguished among people or peoples on the grounds of race, ethnicity, or, now, nation. The unwillingness to do so, or even think so, is part of the price one ways for membership in that tribe.

  185. @Joe Sweet
    @PiltdownMan


    You would think that Germans would have learned to leave the questions of eugenics severely alone.

    The last time they tried to get a handle on the subject, 75 years ago or so, they very nearly destroyed themselves.
     
    Ah, pretty sure it was the merciless dropping of bombs, followed by mass murder and other atrocities by the Allied forces that "nearly destroyed" the Germans.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    You would think that Germans would have learned to leave the questions of eugenics severely alone.

    The last time they tried to get a handle on the subject, 75 years ago or so, they very nearly destroyed themselves.

    Ah, pretty sure it was the merciless dropping of bombs, followed by mass murder and other atrocities by the Allied forces that “nearly destroyed” the Germans.

    It wasn’t messing with “eugenics” that “nearly destroy” the Germans–that was invading other countries (imperialism). Nor were the Germans “nearly destroyed” by the Allies resulting mass slaughter of Germans.

    The truth is in 1945, millions of Europeans were dead, but Europe was alive. Germany–there last fall visiting friends–is a *very* nice place. (Heck of a lot nicer than most places–certainly most cities–in America.)

    What will actually destroy Germany–and the West–is this leftist multicultural silliness. I can only hope some of that old German martial spirit revives, reanimates and saddles up to at least carve out some zone for the non-crazy Germans to live free as Germans. And the same for other Europeans.

    My rough take is most Europeans do not support their displacement and wish to live as Europeans and fully European nations. But the majority is simply too comatose and propagandized by hostile elites to actually protest and vote to demand it.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @AnotherDad


    My rough take is most Europeans do not support their displacement and wish to live as Europeans and fully European nations. But the majority is simply too comatose and propagandized by hostile elites to actually protest and vote to demand it.
     
    Propagandized and paralyzed.
  186. Completely OT: at 4pm EDT ESPN is showing live the funeral of Muhammed Ali, and it is the dreariest multi-cult thing you have ever seen. In the last half hour, they’ve had Injuns in full headress, Chinese beating tambourines with sticks, and several blacks in their best Kunte Kinte outfits.

    And they are pre-empting their regular schedule for this flapdoodle, as if some 25 yo LeBron fan knows or care about MA. Boomer SJW at its finest. And then they wonder why they are losing subscribers.

    • Replies: @Dirk Dagger
    @Jim Don Bob

    Not even any good music? I was always impressed by Elton John's performance at Diana's funeral. He sat in the audience for almost an hour then got up and sang (and accompanied himself) with no warmup in front of millions. Ballsy!

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  187. OT

    Young high income childless SWPLs displacing low income urbanites in numbers not seen since 1970s

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/influx-of-younger-wealthier-residents-transforms-u-s-cities-1465492762

  188. Steve do you ever plan to approve the 2 comments I posted here?

  189. @Svigor
    ANTI-SEMITISM!!!

    The German Finance Minister is implying that Jews, who are far more inbred than Germans, are degenerate.

    Replies: @Dirk Dagger

    Jorma Kaukonen is Jewish? Who knew?

    • Replies: @Wanderer
    @Dirk Dagger

    In The Two Sexes: Growing Up Apart, Coming Together, Eleanor MacCoby points out that (normal) boys and girls recognize each other's play styles.

    Replies: @Dirk Dagger

    , @ben tillman
    @Dirk Dagger


    Jorma Kaukonen is Jewish? Who knew?
     
    I guess the swastika threw you off:

    http://66.media.tumblr.com/4c28024af8cbba55c3933ee9ed467486/tumblr_n5lrneHJPy1sxx790o1_1280.jpg

    Replies: @Dirk Dagger

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Dirk Dagger

    Jorma (Jr, by the way) was the Maggie Gyllenhall and Scarlett Johansson of his day.

    My own favorite Scandijew was Arthur Jensen, and Niels Bohr was impressive as well. I don't include Victor Borge, who was 100% Jewish by ancestry, though he represented the Danish character quite convincingly.

  190. OT I hear that, based on informal surveys, about
    90% of the Ukrainians in western Ukraine, as
    far as Ternopil (incl. Lviv), i.e., as far
    as 200 miles east from the Polish border, would
    prefer to be ruled by Poland rather than by the
    current oligarchs in Kiev. In other words, they
    would effectively want to go back to the time
    when the Polish- Lithuanian Commonwealth
    ruled that area (and beyond – all the way to Zhytomir).

    Of course, that entity no longer exists. The
    Commonwealth included Belarus (but the
    Belarusians, many of whom have Polish roots
    and relatives in Poland, have become thoroughly
    russified) and Lithuania (but the Lithuanians
    strongly value their independence) so restoring
    the Commonwealth is unrealistic.

    However, the Ukrainians are voting with their
    feet. At least a million have moved to Poland
    in recent years to work or to study, most on
    temporary visas. In addition, tens of thousands
    of the Russians and Belarusians are calling
    Poland their home. For centuries, Poland was
    a magnet for people from beyond the Bug river,
    and nowadays, willy-nilly, it seems to be returning
    to that role

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anon 2

    I wish they would come to Canada. A million Ukrainians would do this country the world of good. But our degenerate traitorous government won't let them in, preferring the dregs of the third world like Somali and Jamaica.

    Replies: @candid_observer

  191. @Dirk Dagger
    @Svigor

    Jorma Kaukonen is Jewish? Who knew?

    Replies: @Wanderer, @ben tillman, @Reg Cæsar

    In The Two Sexes: Growing Up Apart, Coming Together, Eleanor MacCoby points out that (normal) boys and girls recognize each other’s play styles.

    • Replies: @Dirk Dagger
    @Wanderer

    Interesting, explains a lot of the Grace Slick-vs-the-rest-of-the-band dynamic of the Airplane.

  192. @Wanderer
    @Dirk Dagger

    In The Two Sexes: Growing Up Apart, Coming Together, Eleanor MacCoby points out that (normal) boys and girls recognize each other's play styles.

    Replies: @Dirk Dagger

    Interesting, explains a lot of the Grace Slick-vs-the-rest-of-the-band dynamic of the Airplane.

  193. @cwhatfuture
    @Romanian

    Gaza has a "biological weapon" because the UN, that is the West, simply pays Gazans to breed. Their food, their basic shelter, their schools are all taken care of by the UNRWA. There are no consequences for them having 6 children per mother because the UN, that is the West, will pay for it all. Cut them off. Then they will have to reach an accommodation with Israel. Gaza's birthrates are a product of the United Nations.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Romanian

    What you say is true, but incomplete. The spoiler in this picture is Eastern Europe, where relative and, for the most part, rising affluence has not translated into higher birthrates, even though basic needs are met. So, even though needs are being met, the population sees itself primarily as being economically disadvantaged and, so, foregoes having large families and did so from the first moment it could in order to concentrate resources on just one or two children. Why don’t Gazans do the same, taking advantage of the interventions of others to raise them from penury? It’s not like the Eastern EU, having guaranteed access to W. European labor markets, could not overcharge its population growth with little worry that we could not export our surplus peoples. Yet, we are rapidly diminishing, while Gazans have quadrupled within my lifetime, despite being considered by the world under siege. I doubt that Eastern Euros would have done the same in the place of the Gazans.

    An interesting article

    http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/04/gaza-growing-population-challences.html

    “The population of the small Strip, whose area is 365 square kilometers [141 square miles], passed 1.865 million in March, or 5,109 people per square kilometer. Thus, the Gaza Strip is on the list of the most densely populated areas in the world,”
    …….
    “The increase of the population in the Gaza Strip is excessive; it is very large. Between 2000 and 2013, the number of Gazans increased by more than 687,000 people.”A UNRWA report published in 2012 said that by 2020 Gaza’s population will reach 2.1 million, and pointed out that basic infrastructure such as electricity, water, sanitation and social services cannot keep up with the needs of the growing population. The Gaza Strip needs much more electricity, hundreds of new schools and hospitals and thousands of housing units by the year 2020.
    ……….
    Experts attribute this increase in population to the high fertility rate of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. The executive director of the Association of Family Planning and Protection, Muyassar Abu Mailaq, told Al-Monitor that the fertility rate for the people of Gaza has long been up to 5.7 children per woman. He said, “According to my work, family-planning methods in all government clinics and those affiliated with UNRWA are available. But some causes have led to increased fertility, thanks to eastern customs and traditions. Palestinian families like procreation, and they don’t consider five or six to be a large number.”

    Abu Mailaq said that Gaza’s fertility rate would be considered high even for developed countries with a high average income, let alone for a besieged territory suffering a blockade, extreme poverty, high unemployment and low per capita income.
    …..
    It is worth mentioning that in Palestine, along with other Arab countries, laws limiting the number of children per family, such as those in China, are unthinkable. The issue is considered a matter of personal freedom.

    Ahmed Fadel, a taxi driver in his 70s who is married to four women, told Al-Monitor that he has 22 children, the youngest of whom is a 5-month-old girl.

    Along with the help of some of his adult sons, Fadel is barely able to cover the expenses of his large family, consisting of more than 55 people, including his four wives and grandchildren. But Fadel insists he likes having a large family, saying, “My father liked big families, and I have 15 brothers. Most of my relatives like to have large families. We don’t like having two, three or even five. Large families are a good thing, and God will provide for us.”

    As for Hassan Sobh, 27, who married six years ago, he believes that having many children is not a problem, as a big family provides “protection.”

    Sobh, who works as a construction worker, told Al-Monitor that he wants a large family, perhaps as many as 20 children. He said, “I now have four sons. Despite the difficult economic situation facing us, I will not stop having children. I love [having children], and there is nothing preventing me from having more.”

    With the increased population, the proportion of poor people in the Gaza Strip has increased to about 39% of the population, according to the Palestinian Center for Statistics. More than 21% of the population lives in extreme poverty.

    I like the part about China. For all of these underdeveloped, dysfunctional and hyperfertile countries, passing the “China test” for reducing birthrates would be the clearest sign that the people, the culture and the government are amenable to rapid, top-down, development. If Nigeria could pull it off, I would be optimistic about its fate. Iran is the only country that comes to mind that could switch fertility on and off seemingly at will and is poised for rapid development (though it is not, by any means, currently underdeveloped).

    • Replies: @anon
    @Romanian

    The extremely low status of women in Arab and Muslim culture is enough in itself to explain the high birthrates.

  194. “Inzucht” translates into “inbreeding ” but I think he means it in the cultural sense, of missing out on diversity. A few lines above Schäuble mentions “Abschottung” (isolation). Granted, my German isn’t that good.
    But he does sound like a true believer and states that Muslims enrich Germany. As an example of integration, Schäuble mentions third generation Turkish women. OK, what about the men? Are they less integrated and successful. No word of that.

  195. @Massimo Heitor
    This seems like people are inventing completely non-existent problems for mass Muslim immigration will solve as a contorted rationalization.

    Does Japan with their harsh anti-immigration homogeneous single ethnicity nation state have problems with inbreeding? Is there any evidence or measure of the damage caused?

    So, there was some problem with Jewish inbreeding in Jewish ghettos in Europe. That has vanished in recent history. Other than that most of France, for example, has had a fairly stable ethnic mix with very minimal mass migration until recently. Was inbreeding a problem there?

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    Everyone who thinks Japan is strongly anti-immigration is in for a big disappointment. Visa rules have been loosened. The Abe government wants more cheap labor and babies, related to its plan to inflate the country into prosperity.

    (Another aspect of that plan is revving up their military-industrial complex. Hence, Abe will be recognized in the future as the Invade/Invite PM.)

    As we all know, immigration is an irreversible game-changer. Like the Korean population, nobody will have the balls to send them packing in the future. There are already noticably more South/SE Asians in my town than when I moved to Japan.

    Issues people don’t realize about immigration:

    1- Japan has avoided a lot of bad int’l press about its lack of immigrants precisely because of its lack of immigrants. What propelled the news stories that propelled the Syrian migrant crisis? Photos of dead babies and migrants demanding things and acting happy to arrive in Europe. Without those photos, there would have been no big push by the state to let the migrants in. In Japan, there aren’t enough immigrants yet to create big int’l immigrant news. It’s waiting for a critical mass. Japan is famously resistant to int’l pressure, but we’ll see. No Japanese I know could think of a defense for killing dolphins or whales. They were embarrassed to be outside the int’l consensus. So who protects these practices? The Japanese elites who run Japan for their own benefit. But if those elites conclude immigration is good for business, bye bye Japan.

    2- Except for the handful of foreigners that post on iSteve, foreigners in Japan are pro-immigration. They are constantly aggitating with their Japanese friends/family/co-workers in favor of looser visa rules, more ethnic restaurants, etc. Obviously, over time and with larger numbers of foreigners, this will have some impact.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Chrisnonymous

    That's a shame, because Japan proves the "diversity is strength" Marxist line is a bald faced lie.

  196. @Jim Don Bob
    Completely OT: at 4pm EDT ESPN is showing live the funeral of Muhammed Ali, and it is the dreariest multi-cult thing you have ever seen. In the last half hour, they've had Injuns in full headress, Chinese beating tambourines with sticks, and several blacks in their best Kunte Kinte outfits.

    And they are pre-empting their regular schedule for this flapdoodle, as if some 25 yo LeBron fan knows or care about MA. Boomer SJW at its finest. And then they wonder why they are losing subscribers.

    Replies: @Dirk Dagger

    Not even any good music? I was always impressed by Elton John’s performance at Diana’s funeral. He sat in the audience for almost an hour then got up and sang (and accompanied himself) with no warmup in front of millions. Ballsy!

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Dirk Dagger

    Assuming Elton John wasn't lip-syncing in 1997 (and I recall having some reason for thinking he wasn't), that was a great performance with perhaps the biggest audience of all time. And being a somber occasion, a screw-up would have worse than a singer before an international sports event.

    Replies: @Dirk Dagger

  197. @Dirk Dagger
    @Jim Don Bob

    Not even any good music? I was always impressed by Elton John's performance at Diana's funeral. He sat in the audience for almost an hour then got up and sang (and accompanied himself) with no warmup in front of millions. Ballsy!

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Assuming Elton John wasn’t lip-syncing in 1997 (and I recall having some reason for thinking he wasn’t), that was a great performance with perhaps the biggest audience of all time. And being a somber occasion, a screw-up would have worse than a singer before an international sports event.

    • Replies: @Dirk Dagger
    @Steve Sailer

    Hadn't even considered lip synching, looks LIVE to me (both piano and vocal). I'm no expert though.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  198. @Anon 2
    OT I hear that, based on informal surveys, about
    90% of the Ukrainians in western Ukraine, as
    far as Ternopil (incl. Lviv), i.e., as far
    as 200 miles east from the Polish border, would
    prefer to be ruled by Poland rather than by the
    current oligarchs in Kiev. In other words, they
    would effectively want to go back to the time
    when the Polish- Lithuanian Commonwealth
    ruled that area (and beyond - all the way to Zhytomir).

    Of course, that entity no longer exists. The
    Commonwealth included Belarus (but the
    Belarusians, many of whom have Polish roots
    and relatives in Poland, have become thoroughly
    russified) and Lithuania (but the Lithuanians
    strongly value their independence) so restoring
    the Commonwealth is unrealistic.

    However, the Ukrainians are voting with their
    feet. At least a million have moved to Poland
    in recent years to work or to study, most on
    temporary visas. In addition, tens of thousands
    of the Russians and Belarusians are calling
    Poland their home. For centuries, Poland was
    a magnet for people from beyond the Bug river,
    and nowadays, willy-nilly, it seems to be returning
    to that role

    Replies: @anon

    I wish they would come to Canada. A million Ukrainians would do this country the world of good. But our degenerate traitorous government won’t let them in, preferring the dregs of the third world like Somali and Jamaica.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @candid_observer
    @anon

    The almost necessary effect of an immigration policy that favors "refugees" from the most troubled areas of the world is that it selects for the worst behaved peoples and cultures in the world.

    But what could go wrong?

  199. @Romanian
    @cwhatfuture

    What you say is true, but incomplete. The spoiler in this picture is Eastern Europe, where relative and, for the most part, rising affluence has not translated into higher birthrates, even though basic needs are met. So, even though needs are being met, the population sees itself primarily as being economically disadvantaged and, so, foregoes having large families and did so from the first moment it could in order to concentrate resources on just one or two children. Why don't Gazans do the same, taking advantage of the interventions of others to raise them from penury? It's not like the Eastern EU, having guaranteed access to W. European labor markets, could not overcharge its population growth with little worry that we could not export our surplus peoples. Yet, we are rapidly diminishing, while Gazans have quadrupled within my lifetime, despite being considered by the world under siege. I doubt that Eastern Euros would have done the same in the place of the Gazans.

    An interesting article

    http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/04/gaza-growing-population-challences.html


    “The population of the small Strip, whose area is 365 square kilometers [141 square miles], passed 1.865 million in March, or 5,109 people per square kilometer. Thus, the Gaza Strip is on the list of the most densely populated areas in the world,”
    .......
    “The increase of the population in the Gaza Strip is excessive; it is very large. Between 2000 and 2013, the number of Gazans increased by more than 687,000 people.”A UNRWA report published in 2012 said that by 2020 Gaza’s population will reach 2.1 million, and pointed out that basic infrastructure such as electricity, water, sanitation and social services cannot keep up with the needs of the growing population. The Gaza Strip needs much more electricity, hundreds of new schools and hospitals and thousands of housing units by the year 2020.
    ..........
    Experts attribute this increase in population to the high fertility rate of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. The executive director of the Association of Family Planning and Protection, Muyassar Abu Mailaq, told Al-Monitor that the fertility rate for the people of Gaza has long been up to 5.7 children per woman. He said, “According to my work, family-planning methods in all government clinics and those affiliated with UNRWA are available. But some causes have led to increased fertility, thanks to eastern customs and traditions. Palestinian families like procreation, and they don’t consider five or six to be a large number.”

    Abu Mailaq said that Gaza's fertility rate would be considered high even for developed countries with a high average income, let alone for a besieged territory suffering a blockade, extreme poverty, high unemployment and low per capita income.
    .....
    It is worth mentioning that in Palestine, along with other Arab countries, laws limiting the number of children per family, such as those in China, are unthinkable. The issue is considered a matter of personal freedom.

    Ahmed Fadel, a taxi driver in his 70s who is married to four women, told Al-Monitor that he has 22 children, the youngest of whom is a 5-month-old girl.

    Along with the help of some of his adult sons, Fadel is barely able to cover the expenses of his large family, consisting of more than 55 people, including his four wives and grandchildren. But Fadel insists he likes having a large family, saying, "My father liked big families, and I have 15 brothers. Most of my relatives like to have large families. We don't like having two, three or even five. Large families are a good thing, and God will provide for us."

    As for Hassan Sobh, 27, who married six years ago, he believes that having many children is not a problem, as a big family provides "protection."

    Sobh, who works as a construction worker, told Al-Monitor that he wants a large family, perhaps as many as 20 children. He said, "I now have four sons. Despite the difficult economic situation facing us, I will not stop having children. I love [having children], and there is nothing preventing me from having more."

    With the increased population, the proportion of poor people in the Gaza Strip has increased to about 39% of the population, according to the Palestinian Center for Statistics. More than 21% of the population lives in extreme poverty.
     
    I like the part about China. For all of these underdeveloped, dysfunctional and hyperfertile countries, passing the "China test" for reducing birthrates would be the clearest sign that the people, the culture and the government are amenable to rapid, top-down, development. If Nigeria could pull it off, I would be optimistic about its fate. Iran is the only country that comes to mind that could switch fertility on and off seemingly at will and is poised for rapid development (though it is not, by any means, currently underdeveloped).

    Replies: @anon

    The extremely low status of women in Arab and Muslim culture is enough in itself to explain the high birthrates.

  200. @Chrisnonymous
    @Massimo Heitor

    Everyone who thinks Japan is strongly anti-immigration is in for a big disappointment. Visa rules have been loosened. The Abe government wants more cheap labor and babies, related to its plan to inflate the country into prosperity.

    (Another aspect of that plan is revving up their military-industrial complex. Hence, Abe will be recognized in the future as the Invade/Invite PM.)

    As we all know, immigration is an irreversible game-changer. Like the Korean population, nobody will have the balls to send them packing in the future. There are already noticably more South/SE Asians in my town than when I moved to Japan.

    Issues people don't realize about immigration:

    1- Japan has avoided a lot of bad int'l press about its lack of immigrants precisely because of its lack of immigrants. What propelled the news stories that propelled the Syrian migrant crisis? Photos of dead babies and migrants demanding things and acting happy to arrive in Europe. Without those photos, there would have been no big push by the state to let the migrants in. In Japan, there aren't enough immigrants yet to create big int'l immigrant news. It's waiting for a critical mass. Japan is famously resistant to int'l pressure, but we'll see. No Japanese I know could think of a defense for killing dolphins or whales. They were embarrassed to be outside the int'l consensus. So who protects these practices? The Japanese elites who run Japan for their own benefit. But if those elites conclude immigration is good for business, bye bye Japan.

    2- Except for the handful of foreigners that post on iSteve, foreigners in Japan are pro-immigration. They are constantly aggitating with their Japanese friends/family/co-workers in favor of looser visa rules, more ethnic restaurants, etc. Obviously, over time and with larger numbers of foreigners, this will have some impact.

    Replies: @anon

    That’s a shame, because Japan proves the “diversity is strength” Marxist line is a bald faced lie.

  201. @Intelligent Dasein
    The idea that importing immigrants will help increase fertility rates is not going to be borne out empirically. It hasn't worked in the USA, for example, which currently has a TFR of 1.9 despite massive Hispanic immigration.

    When you think about it, mass migrations aren't very conducive to increasing populations, as the latter requires stability and mass migration is both a symptom and a cause of instability. There are not going to be many babies born in Germany's refugee centers, because there are few women and few intact family units there. There aren't going to be many babies born in Syria because many of the young men have ran off and the country is devastated by war. And notwithstanding the entirely appropriate moniker "rapefugees," German girls are not going to have children with Syrian migrants. They don't want to date them or marry them, they don't want to bear their children, and good luck getting a women to carry a child to term if, God forbid, she is raped in a country with emergency contraception and legalized abortion.

    Urbanized people have never been very good at reproducing themselves, and drawing in human matter from the four corners of the earth only forestalls the problem. Merkel's Boner is accelerating the demographic winter.

    As an aside, how many babies would you guess are not being born right now in Latin America, with Venezuela in a free fall, Brazil cracking up, Zika virus rampant, Antipope Francis blazing through and dog-whistling that "birth control may be acceptable in some cases," and many of the young people of marriageable age having already split the scene for the USA, where they will conform to the latter's sub-replacement birthrate within a generation?

    Replies: @Romanian, @Anonymous, @AndrewR, @Intelligent Dasein

    As an addendum to my earlier post, we have news that the American baby bust continues.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/baby-bust-2015-had-lowest-u.s.-fertility-rate-ever-down-600000-births/article/2593554

    The above article was on Drudge earlier, but it’s gone now.

  202. @anonymous
    @boogerbently

    The structure of commenting and censoring here on Unz is not conducive to active give and take between commenters. We're all spokes of the author's wheel.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @PiltdownMan

    We’re all spokes of the author’s wheel.

    That’s the point. Unz, who has major credentials in infotech, built it this way. Prevents the long flame wars (to use a now nearly extinct term) and hugely reduces the 24/7 policing burden on the bloggers.

    It’s good to see an intelligently designed, purpose built comments section.

    True online give and take is a chimera. This is because humans don’t converse that way when they have the protection of anonymity and absolute protection from personal harm, as they do online.

  203. @AnotherDad
    @Joe Sweet



    You would think that Germans would have learned to leave the questions of eugenics severely alone.

    The last time they tried to get a handle on the subject, 75 years ago or so, they very nearly destroyed themselves.



    Ah, pretty sure it was the merciless dropping of bombs, followed by mass murder and other atrocities by the Allied forces that “nearly destroyed” the Germans.
     
    It wasn't messing with "eugenics" that "nearly destroy" the Germans--that was invading other countries (imperialism). Nor were the Germans "nearly destroyed" by the Allies resulting mass slaughter of Germans.

    The truth is in 1945, millions of Europeans were dead, but Europe was alive. Germany--there last fall visiting friends--is a *very* nice place. (Heck of a lot nicer than most places--certainly most cities--in America.)

    What will actually destroy Germany--and the West--is this leftist multicultural silliness. I can only hope some of that old German martial spirit revives, reanimates and saddles up to at least carve out some zone for the non-crazy Germans to live free as Germans. And the same for other Europeans.

    My rough take is most Europeans do not support their displacement and wish to live as Europeans and fully European nations. But the majority is simply too comatose and propagandized by hostile elites to actually protest and vote to demand it.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    My rough take is most Europeans do not support their displacement and wish to live as Europeans and fully European nations. But the majority is simply too comatose and propagandized by hostile elites to actually protest and vote to demand it.

    Propagandized and paralyzed.

  204. FYI says:

    This is a rather common “argument” in Finland. I’m surprised to see it used in Germany, especially by such a high-profile politician.

    It’s so funny… “Anti-racists” justifying mass immigration with eugenics. And if inbreeding is an issue, why do you want to fix it by importing immigrants from the most inbred regions of the world?

  205. @Dirk Dagger
    @Svigor

    Jorma Kaukonen is Jewish? Who knew?

    Replies: @Wanderer, @ben tillman, @Reg Cæsar

    Jorma Kaukonen is Jewish? Who knew?

    I guess the swastika threw you off:

    • Replies: @Dirk Dagger
    @ben tillman

    Yes, that swastika medallion famously appears in the Woodstock film and on the Dick Cavett Show appearance the day after Woodstock. Wasn't there a liberate the swastika movement? Jorma's sporting a groovy buckskin shirt on the Cavett show too.

  206. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @anonymous


    “… the original hippies clearly had a severe dislike for anything political.”

    Except for those who were in it for revolution all along. Burn baby burn! Come the Revolution! Down with the Man!
     

    The point was that people like Abbie Hoffman weren't hippies, as his own words indicate.
  207. @rod1963
    @Glossy

    It's not surprising. Murray is pretty much a old school elitist who has more in common ideologically with the globalists and race replacement doyens than your average American - whom he has no use for.

    And he has no children, hence no skin in the game.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    “And he has no children, hence no skin in the game.”

    Except for his four children …

  208. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Apparently, Wolfgang Schauble was a victim of an assassination attempt, a number of years back, which left him permanently disabled and wheelchair dependent.

    What is not generally well known, however, is that the would-be assassin fired a bullet straight through right dead center of Schauble’s forehead.

    – The bullet missed his brain by four inches -.

  209. @AndrewR
    @TheJester

    Landselbstmörder

    Replies: @TheJester

    Thank you AndrewR … spot on! Love the way German strings words together to formulate more complex concepts.

    Again, it is hard to understand why intelligent Europeans would consider importing immigrant populations that constituent a permanent mix of welfare and criminal classes.

  210. @ben tillman
    @Dirk Dagger


    Jorma Kaukonen is Jewish? Who knew?
     
    I guess the swastika threw you off:

    http://66.media.tumblr.com/4c28024af8cbba55c3933ee9ed467486/tumblr_n5lrneHJPy1sxx790o1_1280.jpg

    Replies: @Dirk Dagger

    Yes, that swastika medallion famously appears in the Woodstock film and on the Dick Cavett Show appearance the day after Woodstock. Wasn’t there a liberate the swastika movement? Jorma’s sporting a groovy buckskin shirt on the Cavett show too.

  211. @Steve Sailer
    @Dirk Dagger

    Assuming Elton John wasn't lip-syncing in 1997 (and I recall having some reason for thinking he wasn't), that was a great performance with perhaps the biggest audience of all time. And being a somber occasion, a screw-up would have worse than a singer before an international sports event.

    Replies: @Dirk Dagger

    Hadn’t even considered lip synching, looks LIVE to me (both piano and vocal). I’m no expert though.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Dirk Dagger

    Singing live at Princess Di's funeral was an awfully high pressure setting.

    Replies: @guest

  212. @anon
    @Anon 2

    I wish they would come to Canada. A million Ukrainians would do this country the world of good. But our degenerate traitorous government won't let them in, preferring the dregs of the third world like Somali and Jamaica.

    Replies: @candid_observer

    The almost necessary effect of an immigration policy that favors “refugees” from the most troubled areas of the world is that it selects for the worst behaved peoples and cultures in the world.

    But what could go wrong?

  213. @tbraton
    If Germany, a country of 80 (?) million people is worried about the destructive effects of "in-breeding," what about Israel with its roughly 6 million Jews, who have been ostensibly in-breeding for thousands of years?

    Replies: @El Dato

    Judging from the photos taken of so-called “settlers” as they take potshots at Palestinians, the results are in…

    These are not the Jews which were the intellectual cornerstones of math and physics in Europe before “European Suicide Pact, Part II” went into action.

  214. @Anon 2
    Interesting that Radek Sikorski, former foreign minister
    of Poland (now at Harvard) and his wife Anne Applebaum
    are in attendance at this year's conference in Dresden. Both
    are ardent anglophiles who thought nothing of spending
    a ton of money to send their two sons to Eton.

    The person who initiated the Bilderberg conferences in 1954
    was also from Poland. His name was Józef Retinger (1888-1960),
    and was one of the most interesting personages of that era.
    His father, the personal assistant to Count Zamoyski in
    Poland, sent his prodigiously talented son to Paris where
    he earned a doctorate at the Sorbonne at 20. Retinger was
    extremely well connected, he knew everybody including
    Joseph Conrad (Korzeniowski), another anglophile, who
    after 20 years of seafaring was living in Kent, southeast of
    London. Between the wars Retinger had free access to the
    White House AND 10 Downing Street, and along with
    Paderewski greatly contributed to Poland regaining
    independence.

    All of these individuals, Count Zamoyski, Conrad, Retinger,
    and perhaps Sikorski as well (although he is not shy about
    using gutter language) have felt that Europe should be ruled
    less by the bourgeoisie (with its crassness and conspicuous
    consumption which is ecologically unsustainable in this day
    and age) but rather by the nobility with its aristocratic values
    and the spirit of noblesse oblige . That doesn't mean going
    back to the Hapsburgs although many Central Europeans
    would agree that they weren't so bad

    Replies: @Bies Podkrakowski, @guest

    You mean that all of it could be a Polish conspiracy?

    Because this site likes crazy conspiracies and their cultural underpinnings I would like you to note old polish poem by Adam Mickiewicz – “Konrad Wallenrod” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_Wallenrod

    It was quite popular among Poles, when Polish state didn’t exists or was controlled by external powers and everybody was romantic and crazy about armed uprisings, independence and conspiracies. Note please that Chancellor Merkel is partly of Polish ancestry.

    This puts things in a crazy new light. Could it be that Merkel destroys Germany to avenge old injustices?

    • Replies: @Anon 2
    @Bies Podkrakowski

    No, there was no implication of conspiracy. I visit
    Europe, incl. Poland, frequently, and am familiar
    with Konrad Wallenrod. It's just that there were
    certain fascinating individuals, like Józef Retinger,
    who are completely forgotten today. Another one
    was Misia (Godebska) Sert, la reine de Paris, the
    Polish woman who presided over the cultural life
    of Paris from about 1905 to 1930. My impression
    is that hardly anyone in Poland has heard of Retinger
    or Misia.

    But the broader point is that bourgeois morality,
    characterized by reducing all values to economics,
    only made sense when the West was poor. As the
    West got richer, in the late 19th century, one could
    already see that bourgeois morality was unsustainable.
    Pushed to an extreme it began producing decadence
    and a desire to return to primitivism. Thomas Mann's
    novel Buddenbrooks (1901) depicting a decline of a
    prosperous family would be an example of the former,
    and Paul Gaguin, Sravinsky (Le Sacre du Printemps), and
    maybe the cruder elements in rock and rap would be
    examples of the latter. And what do we have today: hedonism
    reigns supreme. As Houellebecq wrote in Submission,
    "Europe had reached a point of such putrid decomposition
    that it could no longer save itself, anymore than fifth-
    century Rome could have done." (p. 225)

    It as if GDP (PPP) per capita of $30-35,000 is the optimum
    point od development. Anything beyond, and humanity
    becomes corrupted by wealth and power, succumbs to
    consumerism and even militarism. That's why
    IMHO the obsession with productivity (and therefore
    with progress in science and technology) has now
    reached the stage of diminishing returns. The ascendance
    of the oligarchs - products of bourgeois morality
    pushed to obscene levels - tells us it's time to
    abandon our obsession with material wealth and
    productivity

  215. @Dirk Dagger
    @Steve Sailer

    Hadn't even considered lip synching, looks LIVE to me (both piano and vocal). I'm no expert though.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Singing live at Princess Di’s funeral was an awfully high pressure setting.

    • Replies: @guest
    @Steve Sailer

    Not that I want to take anything away from him, but it's not like he had to sing opera. It's just an Elton John song.

  216. @anonymous

    “… the original hippies clearly had a severe dislike for anything political.”

    Except for those who were in it for revolution all along. Burn baby burn! Come the Revolution! Down with the Man!

    The point was that people like Abbie Hoffman weren’t hippies, as his own words indicate.

  217. @Anonymous
    There's two kinds of people who are obsessed with jews:

    1. nazis
    2. jews

    I just thought of that while reading through David Horowtiz's 'Disqus' comment history.

    Replies: @OLD JEW

    is this the same David Horowitz editor of “The Times of Israel” ?

  218. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @penntothal
    OT
    New president of Peru:
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/09/americas/peru-president-pedro-pablo-kuczynski/index.html

    White American World-Bank guy beat out Fujimori's daughter. Is being president "a job Peruvians won't / can't do?"

    Replies: @Anon, @Anonymous

    Kuczynski spent much of his life in America, but he was born in Peru. His father, Maxime Hans Kuczynski, was a Jewish pathologist from Posen (now Poznan, Poland but then Posen, Germany) who specialized in infectious diseases and emigrated to Peru when the Nazis came to power in 1933. His mother, Madeleine Godard, was of French-Swiss ancestry and closely related to film director Jean-Luc Godard.

  219. @Anon 2
    Interesting that Radek Sikorski, former foreign minister
    of Poland (now at Harvard) and his wife Anne Applebaum
    are in attendance at this year's conference in Dresden. Both
    are ardent anglophiles who thought nothing of spending
    a ton of money to send their two sons to Eton.

    The person who initiated the Bilderberg conferences in 1954
    was also from Poland. His name was Józef Retinger (1888-1960),
    and was one of the most interesting personages of that era.
    His father, the personal assistant to Count Zamoyski in
    Poland, sent his prodigiously talented son to Paris where
    he earned a doctorate at the Sorbonne at 20. Retinger was
    extremely well connected, he knew everybody including
    Joseph Conrad (Korzeniowski), another anglophile, who
    after 20 years of seafaring was living in Kent, southeast of
    London. Between the wars Retinger had free access to the
    White House AND 10 Downing Street, and along with
    Paderewski greatly contributed to Poland regaining
    independence.

    All of these individuals, Count Zamoyski, Conrad, Retinger,
    and perhaps Sikorski as well (although he is not shy about
    using gutter language) have felt that Europe should be ruled
    less by the bourgeoisie (with its crassness and conspicuous
    consumption which is ecologically unsustainable in this day
    and age) but rather by the nobility with its aristocratic values
    and the spirit of noblesse oblige . That doesn't mean going
    back to the Hapsburgs although many Central Europeans
    would agree that they weren't so bad

    Replies: @Bies Podkrakowski, @guest

    What nobility? It’s dead and gone. Or at least there’s not enough of it left to run a country. Maybe Lichtenstein.

  220. @Steve Sailer
    @Dirk Dagger

    Singing live at Princess Di's funeral was an awfully high pressure setting.

    Replies: @guest

    Not that I want to take anything away from him, but it’s not like he had to sing opera. It’s just an Elton John song.

  221. @Whiskey
    The whole thing is just indicative of how desperate Europe is to stuff more and more Muslims and Africans in the place. It is a religious madness, John Lennon's Imagine come to fruition. European elites (and ours) believe all people are the same, in ability, in character, in attributes, save Western White men who are evil and the devil. This latter is most likely the fairly self-evident hate hate hate that most White women have for their male peers. If there is no fury like a woman scorned, there is no hate like a woman for an unsexy man.

    If you just substitute -- White women are tired of their men and want someone, anyone, to dominate them, rid them of the tiresome compromises, negotiations, and high level thinking that a prosperous, safe, and secure industrial society requires, there would be no significant difference in actual policy regarding mass third world immigration into the US or EU.

    None whatsoever.

    When feminists go on and on about the Patriarchy and male oppression, what they are really signaling (women never say what they actually want, you must infer it from their actions) is a desire for domination and being told what to do; ala Fifty Shades of Pr0n. Meanwhile a not insignificant number of third world women would really like not be beaten every night.

    That is the human condition.

    Replies: @Lagertha

    What you just wrote is just too mental, even for you. Can you just give it a rest with the “women want this, women want that stuff?” I enjoy so many of your explosive comments/diatribes over the months and 2 years….but, then you succumb to subtle rants about hypothetical women’s behavior…and your bitterness kills the point of your post. Too bad you can’t be my “bar buddy” since you probably live somewhere really far away – cause, I could introduce you to women who are not the evil demons you always seem to mention.

  222. @AndrewR
    @Reg Cæsar

    I'm sure females of all ethnicities are beating down your door, eh Mr Stud??

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I already have the one I need, thank you. No need to amass four.

  223. @Dirk Dagger
    @Svigor

    Jorma Kaukonen is Jewish? Who knew?

    Replies: @Wanderer, @ben tillman, @Reg Cæsar

    Jorma (Jr, by the way) was the Maggie Gyllenhall and Scarlett Johansson of his day.

    My own favorite Scandijew was Arthur Jensen, and Niels Bohr was impressive as well. I don’t include Victor Borge, who was 100% Jewish by ancestry, though he represented the Danish character quite convincingly.

  224. @V Vega
    Just talked to a nice German lady, 82 years old, smart as a whip. She grew up, and has seen it all in Germany. Moved here after the war, became a citizen. Travels back to Germany to visit relatives and her favorite cities there a couple of times a year.

    She said visited Munich a few months ago. Her favorite city. Said the place was a complete mess. Full of assorted 3rd world immigrants. Completely changed the city for the worse. All in just a few years. She's visited Munich every year for decades. Said she's never going back.
    Hates Merkel.

    It's funny. I've spent a few months with British families, and German families. None of whom have ever been to the US. I found the Germans to be a hell of a lot easier to get along with than the Brits. Brits seem to be caught up in the manners game, while Germans are very action oriented. They make a decision, and go for it. Brits talk about doing things, then finally do it–and a lot of times half-assed. Also, German sense of humor is very dry and direct. Brits are passive-aggressive fucks.

    Makes me wonder if we might have been better off tanning Japanese hide, take in jewish refugee's but otherwise sitting out WWII.

    Once we committed to staying out, DeGaulle and Churchill would have sued for peace, Hitler would have beaten the tar out of Stalin, communism would have withered on the world stage, the concentration camp atrocities probably wouldn't have happened, Hitler's heart condition would have did him in by 1946, Goering would probably have turned out all right as Chancellor. He was the least obnoxious of Hitler's bunch. He always struck me as a guy who was just trying to have a nice day. He wasn't very happy when the Brits declared war. He acted like it was going to screw up all his house remodeling plans. He was far less obnoxious than Himmler. He could have clipped Himmler's wings after the war. We'd still have the bomb as a bargaining tool. A lot less Americans would be dead, we wouldn't be dealing with the bullshit we are now, and when touring Europe we could rent a beemer and take the autobahn at 180mph from Berlin to Siberia–and beemers and mercedes would still be manufactured by Germans instead of Mexicans.

    What good was WWII anyway?! Brought us nothing but grief, I tell you!

    Grief... and it made us mean!

    Replies: @Bill B.

    Britain didn’t have to fight Hitler of course. It chose to. But comments hereabouts on this never mention Churchill’s point that the German totalitarian movement would never be happy standing on its gains, it would always move forward in attack. Ergo it had to be defeated.

    One can debate this; perhaps Hitler could have been contained. After all as Peter Hitchens points out Germany is anyway getting now the land space it has wanted since the 19th Century:

    The USA, it might be pointed out, did not chose to ignore the USSR; it was indeed rarely content with mere containment.

    *Many commentators down the centuries have complained that British culture – social style really – disappoints or proves elusive. But surely that is because it is not a demonstrative culture and is a rather cool one at that. Sometimes the British appear awkward socially as if still testing out a social role. Partly this is a result of crumbling of the social conventions that oiled the workings of a multilayers society.

    The pub has been extraordinarily important as a neutral meeting place with alcohol disinhibitors to encourage interaction that, as an institution, has severely deteriorated under social and economic pressures. Political correctness has proven disastrous in a society were overt roles and ambitions were already muffled.

    Yet the British I think do not make good Americans, nor good Germans, and cannot simply shrug off their old ways.

    Didn’t Steve have a post a while back suggesting that in social style at least Americans were more German than British.

    -Crude sense of humour; lack of irony; action-orientated, etc IIRC.

    • Replies: @guest
    @Bill B.

    Why did the US feel the need to contain and then some the USSR? Because it foolishly enabled and abetted its expansion in the interest of beating up Germany and Japan. People tend to forget the Soviets when putting themselves in the '39 mindset. They didn't just pop up at Yalta; they were there all along.

    I'm a ways down the road to believing there would have been no moral difference had we teamed up with Germany and Japan against Russia instead. Maybe there was a net gain on territory; I'm not very good at geography.

  225. @Bies Podkrakowski
    @Anon 2

    You mean that all of it could be a Polish conspiracy?

    Because this site likes crazy conspiracies and their cultural underpinnings I would like you to note old polish poem by Adam Mickiewicz - "Konrad Wallenrod" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_Wallenrod

    It was quite popular among Poles, when Polish state didn't exists or was controlled by external powers and everybody was romantic and crazy about armed uprisings, independence and conspiracies. Note please that Chancellor Merkel is partly of Polish ancestry.

    This puts things in a crazy new light. Could it be that Merkel destroys Germany to avenge old injustices?

    Replies: @Anon 2

    No, there was no implication of conspiracy. I visit
    Europe, incl. Poland, frequently, and am familiar
    with Konrad Wallenrod. It’s just that there were
    certain fascinating individuals, like Józef Retinger,
    who are completely forgotten today. Another one
    was Misia (Godebska) Sert, la reine de Paris, the
    Polish woman who presided over the cultural life
    of Paris from about 1905 to 1930. My impression
    is that hardly anyone in Poland has heard of Retinger
    or Misia.

    But the broader point is that bourgeois morality,
    characterized by reducing all values to economics,
    only made sense when the West was poor. As the
    West got richer, in the late 19th century, one could
    already see that bourgeois morality was unsustainable.
    Pushed to an extreme it began producing decadence
    and a desire to return to primitivism. Thomas Mann’s
    novel Buddenbrooks (1901) depicting a decline of a
    prosperous family would be an example of the former,
    and Paul Gaguin, Sravinsky (Le Sacre du Printemps), and
    maybe the cruder elements in rock and rap would be
    examples of the latter. And what do we have today: hedonism
    reigns supreme. As Houellebecq wrote in Submission,
    “Europe had reached a point of such putrid decomposition
    that it could no longer save itself, anymore than fifth-
    century Rome could have done.” (p. 225)

    It as if GDP (PPP) per capita of $30-35,000 is the optimum
    point od development. Anything beyond, and humanity
    becomes corrupted by wealth and power, succumbs to
    consumerism and even militarism. That’s why
    IMHO the obsession with productivity (and therefore
    with progress in science and technology) has now
    reached the stage of diminishing returns. The ascendance
    of the oligarchs – products of bourgeois morality
    pushed to obscene levels – tells us it’s time to
    abandon our obsession with material wealth and
    productivity

  226. Inbreeding is always a peril to those that marry their cousins

    Genes are a double edged sword, you can concentrate good and bad genes.

  227. @Bill B.
    @V Vega

    Britain didn't have to fight Hitler of course. It chose to. But comments hereabouts on this never mention Churchill's point that the German totalitarian movement would never be happy standing on its gains, it would always move forward in attack. Ergo it had to be defeated.

    One can debate this; perhaps Hitler could have been contained. After all as Peter Hitchens points out Germany is anyway getting now the land space it has wanted since the 19th Century:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyaD_e72FRw&list=PLettVydXyiqoX4OSvSGoubwI0E04A-VQr&index=4

    The USA, it might be pointed out, did not chose to ignore the USSR; it was indeed rarely content with mere containment.

    *Many commentators down the centuries have complained that British culture - social style really - disappoints or proves elusive. But surely that is because it is not a demonstrative culture and is a rather cool one at that. Sometimes the British appear awkward socially as if still testing out a social role. Partly this is a result of crumbling of the social conventions that oiled the workings of a multilayers society.

    The pub has been extraordinarily important as a neutral meeting place with alcohol disinhibitors to encourage interaction that, as an institution, has severely deteriorated under social and economic pressures. Political correctness has proven disastrous in a society were overt roles and ambitions were already muffled.

    Yet the British I think do not make good Americans, nor good Germans, and cannot simply shrug off their old ways.

    Didn't Steve have a post a while back suggesting that in social style at least Americans were more German than British.

    -Crude sense of humour; lack of irony; action-orientated, etc IIRC.

    Replies: @guest

    Why did the US feel the need to contain and then some the USSR? Because it foolishly enabled and abetted its expansion in the interest of beating up Germany and Japan. People tend to forget the Soviets when putting themselves in the ’39 mindset. They didn’t just pop up at Yalta; they were there all along.

    I’m a ways down the road to believing there would have been no moral difference had we teamed up with Germany and Japan against Russia instead. Maybe there was a net gain on territory; I’m not very good at geography.

  228. @Jefferson
    The German government likes Nonwhites way more than Whites. But among Nonwhites, I don't get why they prefer mass Muslim immigration over mass East Asian immigration.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

    I don’t get why they prefer mass Muslim immigration over mass East Asian immigration

    East Asians are a genuine threat to the elites, and have the work ethic and cognitive skills to actually grab power. The Germans just got rid of the Jews, they aren’t about to let in a new competitor. North African and Middle Eastern immigrants for the most part will just displace working class whites. As one can see from Mexico, Brazil, Turkey, and even parts of the US with large black and latino populations, it is quite possible for a mostly white elite to live quite well in a minority white country provided they are willing to pay for personal security and live in isolated neighborhoods. Keep in mind that many European elites are descended from aristocrats who for centuries ruled illiterate peasants often speaking a different language, professing a different religion and whom the aristorcrats considered barely human. In some ways we are seeing an attempt to restore the pre-19th century status quo. European aristocrats have always hated nationalism.

    Is this a good plan? No, I would argue that it is a fairly stupid plan, but I see where European elites are coming from. Personally I would rather live a middle class lifestyle in white Denmark than a billionaire life style in Brazil, but then I am not descended from European aristocracy.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Interesting and insightful. I have a German cousin who is extremely pro-refugee, more so than anyone else I know. His mother is a countess. I suppose this is part of a pattern, though not necessarily a conscious strategy (certainly, not on his part - he is really kindhearted, though sheltered from the negative consequences).

    Things are different in eastern Europe, although there is plenty of cheap European labor and no desire by migrants to settle there, so it's not an issue. Still, I've heard commoners being referred to as "bydlo" (cattle) so I suppose theoretically it wouldn't matter what color the cattle would be.

  229. AP says:
    @Peter Akuleyev
    @Jefferson


    I don’t get why they prefer mass Muslim immigration over mass East Asian immigration
     
    East Asians are a genuine threat to the elites, and have the work ethic and cognitive skills to actually grab power. The Germans just got rid of the Jews, they aren't about to let in a new competitor. North African and Middle Eastern immigrants for the most part will just displace working class whites. As one can see from Mexico, Brazil, Turkey, and even parts of the US with large black and latino populations, it is quite possible for a mostly white elite to live quite well in a minority white country provided they are willing to pay for personal security and live in isolated neighborhoods. Keep in mind that many European elites are descended from aristocrats who for centuries ruled illiterate peasants often speaking a different language, professing a different religion and whom the aristorcrats considered barely human. In some ways we are seeing an attempt to restore the pre-19th century status quo. European aristocrats have always hated nationalism.

    Is this a good plan? No, I would argue that it is a fairly stupid plan, but I see where European elites are coming from. Personally I would rather live a middle class lifestyle in white Denmark than a billionaire life style in Brazil, but then I am not descended from European aristocracy.

    Replies: @AP

    Interesting and insightful. I have a German cousin who is extremely pro-refugee, more so than anyone else I know. His mother is a countess. I suppose this is part of a pattern, though not necessarily a conscious strategy (certainly, not on his part – he is really kindhearted, though sheltered from the negative consequences).

    Things are different in eastern Europe, although there is plenty of cheap European labor and no desire by migrants to settle there, so it’s not an issue. Still, I’ve heard commoners being referred to as “bydlo” (cattle) so I suppose theoretically it wouldn’t matter what color the cattle would be.

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