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Back on July 1, 2021, I reported on a new preprint scientific paper entitled “Linear and partially linear models of behavioural trait variation using admixture regression” that looked at racial DNA and cognitive test performance of about 10,000 children in the colossally well-funded national Adolescent Brain Cognitive Development study. That paper focused on the challenging theoretical issues of trying to answer questions about whether IQ correlates with the racial admixture of the child.

Now, Connor is back, this time with co-authors John Fuerst and Meng Hu, with a new preprint (i.e., not yet published in a peer-reviewed journal) focusing on the data from the ABCD:

Genetic Ancestry and General Cognitive Ability in a Sample of American Youths

… The Adolescent Brain Cognitive Development Study (ABCD) is a collaborative longitudinal project involving 21 sites across the USA. ABCD is the largest, longitudinal study of brain development and child health ever conducted in the USA. It was created to research the psychological and neurobiological bases of human development. At baseline, around 11,000 children aged 9-10 years were sampled, mostly from public and private elementary schools. A probabilistic sampling strategy was used, with the goal of creating a broadly representative sample of US children in that age range. Children with severe neurological, psychiatric, or medical conditions were excluded. Children were also excluded if they were not fluent in English or if their parents were not fluent in either English or Spanish. Parents provided informed consent. For this study, we utilized the baseline ABCD 3.01 data. We excluded individuals missing either cognitive or admixture scores. We also excluded any individual identified as being either Asian or Pacific Islander in order to focus on groups who were primarily of African, European, and Amerindian ancestry. This left 10,370 children.

Using a standard algorithm for estimating racial admixture, the following graph shows the genetic admixture of the sizable sample compared with their “SIRE” — self-identified race/ethnicity.

Kids whose parent self-identified them as white are the purple dots clustered largely in the lower left corner of European ancestry. The authors found that self-identified white children have 98% white ancestry, 1% black, and 1% Amerindian.

Self-identified non-Hispanic blacks (red dots) tend to be near the top of the triangle (African ancestry) with a moderate amount of European ancestry. In the sample drawn from the ABCD database, self-identified non-Hispanic blacks kids are 82% African, 16% European, and 1% Amerindian, and 1% Asian.

Hispanics (green dots) average 60% European, 28% Amerindian, and 10% African genetic ancestry.

Hispanics tend to come in several main types. One runs along the bottom of the triangle from all-white to mestizo white-Amerindian admixture, with few more than 75% Amerindian. (Note that the study excludes children who don’t speak English and parents who don’t speak English or Spanish, which would tend to exclude, say, Mixtec speakers.)

The other main types of Hispanics are mulattos (white and black) and pardos (all three races).

In this study, in which Asians and Pacific Islanders are excluded to keep the focus on the Big Three race/ethnic groups, the Other group is largely children whose parent identified them as non-Hispanic and both black and white. They average 62% European, 32% African, and 4% Amerindian genetic ancestry.

Here’s a scatter plot of Hispanics with European ancestry along the horizontal axis and the g factor of intelligence along the vertical axis:

The intelligence-Euro admixture correlation for Hispanics is a modest but visible o.23.

The scatter plot for self-identified black children shows that, unlike Hispanics, most cluster around, say, 2% to 30% white ancestry. The mean is 16% with a standard deviation of 11%. About 68% of self-identified blacks would fall between 5% white and 27% white. That’s a lot of restriction of range.

Eyeballing the graph, I only count about 34 of the 1690 self-identified black kids as being more than 50% white by genetic ancestry.

I don’t think it is at all well-known among white intellectuals, who are constantly saying that American race isn’t scientific due to the One Drop Rule, what an overwhelming percentage of self-identified blacks are at least half black by ancestry. As I figured out in 2001, the historic One Drop Rule and social and legal sanctions on interracial marriage made it rare for anybody who publicly identified as black to get much above 50% white.

The correlation between g and European admixture is a low (but positive) 0.10. The majority of 100% black children (often the children of immigrants selected for their academics) are above the African-American average in intelligence. If you select only for black children with American-born parents, the correlation goes up to a still low 0.13.

These results can account for why people appear to sincerely disagree on whether there are differences in average intelligence between African-Americans depending on skin color. There are differences in intelligence regarding ancestry, but they are not all that big plus there isn’t that much dispersion in ancestral makeup among self-identifying non-Hispanic blacks. Finally, Africans of 100% black ancestry in the U.S. tend to be somewhat smarter than less purely black people of African-descent.

On the other hand, there are so many standard deviations of difference in percent of European ancestry between self-identified blacks (16%) and self-identified whites (98%) that this still adds up to accounting for much of the IQ gap.

For self-identifying non-Hispanic (and non-Asian) Others (mostly black-white mixes):

Here the correlation between g and European ancestry is a modest 0.19.

If you plot all 10,370 kids in this study on one graph, you get a moderate 0.36 correlation between g and European ancestry.

The results above indicate that factors associated with genetic ancestry are related to g within SIRE groups. These findings also suggest that these same factors explain differences between SIRE groups (Halder et al., 2015). Using the full sample, we examine this implication. The relation between European ancestry and g for the full sample is shown in Figure 5. As expected, there is a strong positive association for the SIRE groups between ancestry and g (r = .36; N = 10370). Because the range of ancestry is not restricted — restriction of range attenuates correlations — the correlation is high. In this plot, we again see the uptick at the lowest decile of European admixture. This is due to the relatively high scores of children of recent African immigrants.

Interestingly, the highest single scorer on this intensive set of cognitive tests was a self-identified Other of just over 50% European ancestry.

And children who identify as white and are very close to 100% white seem to score slightly lower on the tests than whites who are a few percent nonwhite by ancestry.

There’s much else of interest in the paper.

By the way, back in 2019, I reported on a study entitled “Global Ancestry and Cognitive Ability” that did a similar analysis of 9,498 young people in the Philadelphia Neurodevelopmental Cohort. Looks like the results were more or less similar to the new ABCD papers, but I look forward to seeing somebody add the two databases together and see what shakes out of a sample of almost 20,000 youths.

 
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  1. Interestingly, the highest single scorer on this intensive set of cognitive tests was a self-identified Other of just over 50% European ancestry.

    i.e., a half Oriental, half White kid? If it was an intensive set of tests, he’s likely to be one with the most patience to get through all of it while still paying attention.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I think they left out Asians.

    Replies: @Pat Hannagan, @Achmed E. Newman, @Waylon Sisko, @anon, @Hypnotoad666

  2. anon[343] • Disclaimer says:

    Genomic ancestry of non-related individuals in Rio de Janeiro

    Colour Amerindian African European

    White 6.7% 6.9% 86.4%
    Pardo 8.3% 23.6% 68.1%
    Black 7.3% 50.9% 41.8%

    Blacks in Rio in comparison have 2x more European ancestry. Whites in Rio have 7x more black ancestry but it’s still so small that it doesn’t show up in appearance. (I don’t know Brazil well so can anyone correct me on this?)

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @anon

    Thanks.

    Brazil's racial admixture structure is really different than America's because they didn't have a Color Line, they had a Color Continuum. Racial admixture structures are indeed socially constructed, but not in the way that academics use the term. Instead, a society's rules for mating will have a definite impact over the generations on who winds up with what DNA. But not many Americans have thought about how that works in a long time.

    Replies: @anon, @Travis

    , @Flip
    @anon

    When I was in Brazil, it seemed like a lot of the whites had some black features.

  3. SIRE, …dubious to build into hard data.

  4. @anon

    Genomic ancestry of non-related individuals in Rio de Janeiro

    Colour Amerindian African European

    White 6.7% 6.9% 86.4%
    Pardo 8.3% 23.6% 68.1%
    Black 7.3% 50.9% 41.8%
     
    Blacks in Rio in comparison have 2x more European ancestry. Whites in Rio have 7x more black ancestry but it's still so small that it doesn't show up in appearance. (I don't know Brazil well so can anyone correct me on this?)

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Flip

    Thanks.

    Brazil’s racial admixture structure is really different than America’s because they didn’t have a Color Line, they had a Color Continuum. Racial admixture structures are indeed socially constructed, but not in the way that academics use the term. Instead, a society’s rules for mating will have a definite impact over the generations on who winds up with what DNA. But not many Americans have thought about how that works in a long time.

    • Agree: ic1000
    • Thanks: JimDandy
    • Replies: @anon
    @Steve Sailer


    Instead, a society’s rules for mating will have a definite impact over the generations on who winds up with what DNA. But not many Americans have thought about how that works in a long time.
     
    Someone should try to estimate. In 2100, will white newborns have on average higher or lower than 75% European ancestry?

    Replies: @Travis

    , @Travis
    @Steve Sailer

    in addition to having a Color Continuum Brazil had a much higher percentage of Blacks and indigenous and less European settlers compared to the USA.. A Strict color line is more difficult to maintain when the nation is just 30% European and the settlers are mostly males without wives.

  5. @Achmed E. Newman

    Interestingly, the highest single scorer on this intensive set of cognitive tests was a self-identified Other of just over 50% European ancestry.
     
    i.e., a half Oriental, half White kid? If it was an intensive set of tests, he's likely to be one with the most patience to get through all of it while still paying attention.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    I think they left out Asians.

    • Replies: @Pat Hannagan
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve, you had a great life, you almost died twice, you were a statistical genius which brought you great benefits, you were lucky enough to live at a time in life when everything was turning to gold for insecure half-**** kids, you know it.

    Your time came and went, it's time for you to relent and hand over the the reins to the younger generation. It's time...mate.

    Just turn off the ignition and hand the keys slowly through the window, that's it, mate, nice and easy, there you go.

    There's no need to slash and burn the younger generations before you go, I know you old Boomers think the world began with your birth and will end with your death, but, gotta tell you mate, it won't.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMOAXm94VWo

    Replies: @SimpleQuestion, @slumber_j

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Steve Sailer

    Ooops, right you are. I'd read about excluding "Asians and Pacific Islanders" for simplicity, but then when I saw "other" again, I'd forgotten:


    Other group is largely children whose parent identified them as non-Hispanic and both black and white.
     
    Thanks.
    , @Waylon Sisko
    @Steve Sailer

    Would accounting for Asians make the analysis comprehensive?

    If so, it would seem that "Jesus Loves the Little Children" really does summarize human racial groups at the highest possible level -- "red and yellow, black and white!"

    (I can't describe how much the inconsistency of the PC left annoys me in these matters: "white" is okay to mention, if only to criticize it as in "white privilege," black is beautiful and must be capitalized because Their lives matter, but "red" and "yellow" are unspeakable slurs. I'd LOVE for this children's hymn to come back into fashion without any clunky modernizing rewrites!)

    With just the other three groups -- red, white, and black -- we get that striking triangular graph, much like Scott McCloud's "Big Triangle" for understanding comic books, where the three poles are realism, language, and pure abstraction. It might be a useful way to sort, analyze, and compare the big three groups which comprise the Historic American Nation.

    ...but I wonder how in the world we'd present the data with a fourth pole for Asians -- would it require 3-D graphics?

    On a quick personal note, I've been lurking here for years, and I finally got around to joining the conversation with my first comment yesterday. This blog and its community of commenters has become just as much part of my daily routine as the original posts and the other content at VDARE -- glad to be here, long live unz.com/iSteve!

    Replies: @Anon, @Achmed E. Newman

    , @anon
    @Steve Sailer

    I read it as the authors leaving out self-identifying Asians, but if a subject self-identified as Other then they would remain eligible.

    The category bins are based on self-identification while the pretty graphs are based on genetic analysis. The authors get to ignore the messiness of that mismatch by only doing the regressions on percentage Euro ancestry.

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Steve Sailer


    I think they left out Asians.
     
    It sounds like they just excluded people who self-identified as "Asian." But they included people who self identified as "Other." So my guess is that the high scorer self-identifies as Eurasian or Mixed Race.

    Also, I noticed there was one future Sean King who self-identified as Black but has 100% White ancestry.
  6. @Steve Sailer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I think they left out Asians.

    Replies: @Pat Hannagan, @Achmed E. Newman, @Waylon Sisko, @anon, @Hypnotoad666

    Steve, you had a great life, you almost died twice, you were a statistical genius which brought you great benefits, you were lucky enough to live at a time in life when everything was turning to gold for insecure half-**** kids, you know it.

    Your time came and went, it’s time for you to relent and hand over the the reins to the younger generation. It’s time…mate.

    Just turn off the ignition and hand the keys slowly through the window, that’s it, mate, nice and easy, there you go.

    There’s no need to slash and burn the younger generations before you go, I know you old Boomers think the world began with your birth and will end with your death, but, gotta tell you mate, it won’t.

    • LOL: AndrewR
    • Replies: @SimpleQuestion
    @Pat Hannagan

    There are many comments on here and Twitter where people are surprised that Steve isn't being read in the Wall Street Journal.

    Then I see comments that casually use "****".

    Steve, consider deleting this (unless I'm missing an inside joke here).

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @iffen

    , @slumber_j
    @Pat Hannagan

    You must give your cape and scepter to me!

    https://youtu.be/rD6d8vAL9EY

  7. Is there even a hypothesis accounting for the data from the religiously taboo-encrusted mainstream? I’m thinking about people I’ve actually respected–Nassim Taleb seems smugly dumb, Hitchens seems dead, Steven Pinker came up with astounding new copes for opponents of race realism in “Better Angels of our Nature” (humans are so violence-variable, any race could be from 89.1 FM to 107.9 at any time!) and no one even noticed? An amazing book, but again–never saw a peep even trying to re-purpose this into convincing you human races just on different wavelengths, so we need more integration and busing, even though it was ideal for it–almost like humans don’t read or think and actual arguments not even worth it. War Nerd seems science-averse, and never mentions it. Andrew Sullivan sent into exile to actually make money, at Substack, cuz he couldn’t be bothered to say ‘that’s definitely wrong’.

    • Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Cosmohicks


    Nassim Taleb seems smugly dumb
     
    He makes a fair point because if you look at European country IQ/PISA scores you'd expect Finland and Estonia to be the Cradle of Western Civilization. But in fact it's more or less the land of his ancestors.

    On the other hand, he's like 5'8 so iSteve would tower over him.
    , @obwandiyag
    @Cosmohicks

    Kinda dumb, aren't you. You must be half black.

    , @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia
    @Cosmohicks


    I’m thinking about people I’ve actually respected–Nassim Taleb seems smugly dumb,
     
    Nassim is getting to be even MORE of a crank that he was when he wrote The Black Swan, but when it comes to IQ and racial disparities, he's fooled by assuming the graphs Steve posted are fooling Steve and others BY what appears to be random noisy uncorrelated data...but the dots at the bottom of the G horizontal axis are very very VERY bad dots.

    Nassim's being fooled by the fundamental principle that when it comes to race, variability between groups isn't great, but variability WITHIN groups is telling. So, yeah, we got a whole bunch of 100 IQ people in white and black cohorts, but the fact is if you tell a yo' mama joke to a white 80 IQ person, they will likely just look at you in perplexity.

    Do that to a young black make with such an IQ, make sure you've strapped on your Kevlar vest beforehand. Fortunately, he'll likely hold the pistol incorrectly and hit an non-Kevlared bystander instead.

    The moral? Don't be fooled.
  8. @anon

    Genomic ancestry of non-related individuals in Rio de Janeiro

    Colour Amerindian African European

    White 6.7% 6.9% 86.4%
    Pardo 8.3% 23.6% 68.1%
    Black 7.3% 50.9% 41.8%
     
    Blacks in Rio in comparison have 2x more European ancestry. Whites in Rio have 7x more black ancestry but it's still so small that it doesn't show up in appearance. (I don't know Brazil well so can anyone correct me on this?)

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Flip

    When I was in Brazil, it seemed like a lot of the whites had some black features.

  9. Enough numbers Steve, play with this instead.

    “Larry Elder is the Black Face of White Supremacy. You’ve Been Warned”

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/actual-la-times-headline-larry-elder-black-face-white-supremacy-warned/

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Bill Jones

    Telling people not to litter is the real white supremacy. And to wear masks, too. Not fascism, but Faucism.


    Erika D Smith, she don' live in da 'hood. She ride da train:




    https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/856323057/photo_400x400.jpg

  10. anon[343] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @anon

    Thanks.

    Brazil's racial admixture structure is really different than America's because they didn't have a Color Line, they had a Color Continuum. Racial admixture structures are indeed socially constructed, but not in the way that academics use the term. Instead, a society's rules for mating will have a definite impact over the generations on who winds up with what DNA. But not many Americans have thought about how that works in a long time.

    Replies: @anon, @Travis

    Instead, a society’s rules for mating will have a definite impact over the generations on who winds up with what DNA. But not many Americans have thought about how that works in a long time.

    Someone should try to estimate. In 2100, will white newborns have on average higher or lower than 75% European ancestry?

    • Replies: @Travis
    @anon

    Whites in America are becoming less White each generation, but due to the flight from White , most Americans who are 10% Non-White will identify as non-White so those who identify was White will still be very White and even those who are mostly White will identify as Non-White.

    12% of African-Americans have a white parent today. Yet 100% of Whites have two White Parents. So Blacks are becoming genetically less Black. Back in 1980 only 4% of Blacks had a White parent. So three times as many Blacks today have a White Parent compared to the 1980s.

    20% of Black newlyweds have a Non-Black spouse. Just 11% of White newlyweds have a non-white spouse. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2017/05/18/1-trends-and-patterns-in-intermarriage/pst_2017-05-15-intermarriage-01-09/

    24% of Black male newlyweds have a Non-Black Spouse
    21% of Asian male newlyweds have a non-Asian Spouse
    12% of White males newlyweds have a non-white spouse

    Based on marriage and mating patterns it appears that Blacks are becoming less Black. But even Blacks who have 3 White Grandparents will continue to identify as Black. So Whites will remain mostly White, since those who are more than 10% N0n-WHite will not identify as White. For example, the Grandchildren of Jeb Bush will not identify as White, even though 3 of their grandparents are White. The Children of Ted Crux still be counted as Non-White.

    Replies: @Anon, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @epebble

  11. If I’m reading this correctly, these data are from 10-yr olds. At this age, racial differences in IQ are smaller, possibility because of faster/earlier brain development in “fast-life” Africians. But it appears that brains of Europeans continue to develop past adolesence, months (years?) after African brains have reached full development. This produces a much greater difference in racial IQ in adults vs. children.

    Will this study track IQs of these subjects over the next 15 yrs??

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Patriot

    The ABCD study found big white-black racial differences at 9 or 10 years old, and more modest white-Hispanic differences.

    This study will carry on for 10 years until 19-20 years old.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  12. @Steve Sailer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I think they left out Asians.

    Replies: @Pat Hannagan, @Achmed E. Newman, @Waylon Sisko, @anon, @Hypnotoad666

    Ooops, right you are. I’d read about excluding “Asians and Pacific Islanders” for simplicity, but then when I saw “other” again, I’d forgotten:

    Other group is largely children whose parent identified them as non-Hispanic and both black and white.

    Thanks.

  13. @Patriot
    If I'm reading this correctly, these data are from 10-yr olds. At this age, racial differences in IQ are smaller, possibility because of faster/earlier brain development in "fast-life" Africians. But it appears that brains of Europeans continue to develop past adolesence, months (years?) after African brains have reached full development. This produces a much greater difference in racial IQ in adults vs. children.

    Will this study track IQs of these subjects over the next 15 yrs??

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    The ABCD study found big white-black racial differences at 9 or 10 years old, and more modest white-Hispanic differences.

    This study will carry on for 10 years until 19-20 years old.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Steve Sailer


    This study will carry on for 10 years until 19-20 years old.
     
    Unless it is cancelled for Narrative non-compliance.
  14. @Steve Sailer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I think they left out Asians.

    Replies: @Pat Hannagan, @Achmed E. Newman, @Waylon Sisko, @anon, @Hypnotoad666

    Would accounting for Asians make the analysis comprehensive?

    If so, it would seem that “Jesus Loves the Little Children” really does summarize human racial groups at the highest possible level — “red and yellow, black and white!”

    (I can’t describe how much the inconsistency of the PC left annoys me in these matters: “white” is okay to mention, if only to criticize it as in “white privilege,” black is beautiful and must be capitalized because Their lives matter, but “red” and “yellow” are unspeakable slurs. I’d LOVE for this children’s hymn to come back into fashion without any clunky modernizing rewrites!)

    With just the other three groups — red, white, and black — we get that striking triangular graph, much like Scott McCloud’s “Big Triangle” for understanding comic books, where the three poles are realism, language, and pure abstraction. It might be a useful way to sort, analyze, and compare the big three groups which comprise the Historic American Nation.

    …but I wonder how in the world we’d present the data with a fourth pole for Asians — would it require 3-D graphics?

    On a quick personal note, I’ve been lurking here for years, and I finally got around to joining the conversation with my first comment yesterday. This blog and its community of commenters has become just as much part of my daily routine as the original posts and the other content at VDARE — glad to be here, long live unz.com/iSteve!

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Waylon Sisko


    white” is okay to mention, if only to criticize it as in “white privilege
     
    Actually, this paper proves that the left is correct: white privilege is real.

    In all seriousness, it seems like including Asians would complicate things, because it would reduce the degree to which %white ancestry is correlated with g.

    Replies: @Waylon Sisko

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Waylon Sisko

    That's just what I was thinking, Waylon, when I saw the triangle - it works great for 3 groups. (Which, BTW, when I was a kid, were just described, differently than in this study for just "Americans", as the 3 races of Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid in a world atlas we had.) Yeah, now you'd need at the very least, a tetrahedron, which, when you think about it, would work OK if the data were presented on touch screens.

    Glad to hear (read) from you, Waylon!

    Replies: @Waylon Sisko

  15. @Steve Sailer
    @Patriot

    The ABCD study found big white-black racial differences at 9 or 10 years old, and more modest white-Hispanic differences.

    This study will carry on for 10 years until 19-20 years old.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    This study will carry on for 10 years until 19-20 years old.

    Unless it is cancelled for Narrative non-compliance.

  16. Wonder how much the higher intelligence of African Africans is the result of selection vs generations of severe dysgenic decline among African Americans.

  17. Anon[314] • Disclaimer says:
    @Waylon Sisko
    @Steve Sailer

    Would accounting for Asians make the analysis comprehensive?

    If so, it would seem that "Jesus Loves the Little Children" really does summarize human racial groups at the highest possible level -- "red and yellow, black and white!"

    (I can't describe how much the inconsistency of the PC left annoys me in these matters: "white" is okay to mention, if only to criticize it as in "white privilege," black is beautiful and must be capitalized because Their lives matter, but "red" and "yellow" are unspeakable slurs. I'd LOVE for this children's hymn to come back into fashion without any clunky modernizing rewrites!)

    With just the other three groups -- red, white, and black -- we get that striking triangular graph, much like Scott McCloud's "Big Triangle" for understanding comic books, where the three poles are realism, language, and pure abstraction. It might be a useful way to sort, analyze, and compare the big three groups which comprise the Historic American Nation.

    ...but I wonder how in the world we'd present the data with a fourth pole for Asians -- would it require 3-D graphics?

    On a quick personal note, I've been lurking here for years, and I finally got around to joining the conversation with my first comment yesterday. This blog and its community of commenters has become just as much part of my daily routine as the original posts and the other content at VDARE -- glad to be here, long live unz.com/iSteve!

    Replies: @Anon, @Achmed E. Newman

    white” is okay to mention, if only to criticize it as in “white privilege

    Actually, this paper proves that the left is correct: white privilege is real.

    In all seriousness, it seems like including Asians would complicate things, because it would reduce the degree to which %white ancestry is correlated with g.

    • Replies: @Waylon Sisko
    @Anon

    I think the realistic view is that ethnic groups have differences that aren't necessarily better or worse in all possible contexts, but at any rate the word "privilege" should be avoided at all costs. The word implies that the system has been deliberately gamed to benefit one group over another, and that's presumptuous at best and slanderous at worst.

    Their argument is this: disparate impacts are sufficient proof of inherent, systemtic bias -- never mind their inability to prove it, you must accept the claim as fact -- and this built-in bias benefits groups of privilege.

    I personally insist that they prove their preposterous theory, and I refuse to accept their terms and terminology until they do.

    Replies: @Peter Johnson

  18. @Pat Hannagan
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve, you had a great life, you almost died twice, you were a statistical genius which brought you great benefits, you were lucky enough to live at a time in life when everything was turning to gold for insecure half-**** kids, you know it.

    Your time came and went, it's time for you to relent and hand over the the reins to the younger generation. It's time...mate.

    Just turn off the ignition and hand the keys slowly through the window, that's it, mate, nice and easy, there you go.

    There's no need to slash and burn the younger generations before you go, I know you old Boomers think the world began with your birth and will end with your death, but, gotta tell you mate, it won't.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMOAXm94VWo

    Replies: @SimpleQuestion, @slumber_j

    There are many comments on here and Twitter where people are surprised that Steve isn’t being read in the Wall Street Journal.

    Then I see comments that casually use “****”.

    Steve, consider deleting this (unless I’m missing an inside joke here).

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @SimpleQuestion

    Why would something a commenter says affect Sailer being published in the WSJ? He should be published there before many of the globalist tools and schmucks writing there over the years.

    , @iffen
    @SimpleQuestion

    Maybe the writer meant kite and his spellcheck was corrupted.

  19. Tufte’s main recommendation was, that before doing any statistics, plot the data and look at it. If you do that, it is obvious that for 10-years olds, at least, there is no effect of percentage white ancestry on g.

    None.

    • Replies: @Chuck
    @bob sykes

    Statistically illiterate. These correlations were around the max possible given the restrictions in ranges in ancestry.

    Look at the betas. Almost all of the gaps were explained by genetic ancestry. Close to 100 percent.

    , @AnotherDad
    @bob sykes


    Tufte’s main recommendation was, that before doing any statistics, plot the data and look at it. If you do that, it is obvious that for 10-years olds, at least, there is no effect of percentage white ancestry on g.

    None.
     
    Your eye/brain is doing some sort of "leveling". Mine did, then i actually looked at where the distributions are on the sides, where their means/medians appear to be.

    The graph is too "overstretched" to just glance at. 1 SD in g vertically--which is pretty darn significant in terms of behavior and life outcomes--is roughly the same distance as 10% white ancestry horizontally.
  20. @Waylon Sisko
    @Steve Sailer

    Would accounting for Asians make the analysis comprehensive?

    If so, it would seem that "Jesus Loves the Little Children" really does summarize human racial groups at the highest possible level -- "red and yellow, black and white!"

    (I can't describe how much the inconsistency of the PC left annoys me in these matters: "white" is okay to mention, if only to criticize it as in "white privilege," black is beautiful and must be capitalized because Their lives matter, but "red" and "yellow" are unspeakable slurs. I'd LOVE for this children's hymn to come back into fashion without any clunky modernizing rewrites!)

    With just the other three groups -- red, white, and black -- we get that striking triangular graph, much like Scott McCloud's "Big Triangle" for understanding comic books, where the three poles are realism, language, and pure abstraction. It might be a useful way to sort, analyze, and compare the big three groups which comprise the Historic American Nation.

    ...but I wonder how in the world we'd present the data with a fourth pole for Asians -- would it require 3-D graphics?

    On a quick personal note, I've been lurking here for years, and I finally got around to joining the conversation with my first comment yesterday. This blog and its community of commenters has become just as much part of my daily routine as the original posts and the other content at VDARE -- glad to be here, long live unz.com/iSteve!

    Replies: @Anon, @Achmed E. Newman

    That’s just what I was thinking, Waylon, when I saw the triangle – it works great for 3 groups. (Which, BTW, when I was a kid, were just described, differently than in this study for just “Americans”, as the 3 races of Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid in a world atlas we had.) Yeah, now you’d need at the very least, a tetrahedron, which, when you think about it, would work OK if the data were presented on touch screens.

    Glad to hear (read) from you, Waylon!

    • Replies: @Waylon Sisko
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Thanks! --and I really dig the psueudonym! ("What, me worry? Infidel! KABOOM!")

    Older generations might have been prejudiced, even if understandably so, but they weren't warped by political correctness, and so it seems they could see things more clearly. There really are three big races OR four, depending on how one counts groups from South Asia, groups from East Asia, and the American aboriginal population -- and depending on the theory of migration from Asia, our ancestors might have had good reason for mistaking that population for Indians.

    We just need clear thinking on the subject of race AND reasonable terminology, and neither are feasible when we're dealing with lunatics who are looking to be offended.

    PS - that book I referenced, Understanding Comics by Scott McCloud, is an EXCELLENT explanation for how and why comic books and graphic novels work as an art form, far beyond the particular genre of costumed superheroes.

  21. @Pat Hannagan
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve, you had a great life, you almost died twice, you were a statistical genius which brought you great benefits, you were lucky enough to live at a time in life when everything was turning to gold for insecure half-**** kids, you know it.

    Your time came and went, it's time for you to relent and hand over the the reins to the younger generation. It's time...mate.

    Just turn off the ignition and hand the keys slowly through the window, that's it, mate, nice and easy, there you go.

    There's no need to slash and burn the younger generations before you go, I know you old Boomers think the world began with your birth and will end with your death, but, gotta tell you mate, it won't.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMOAXm94VWo

    Replies: @SimpleQuestion, @slumber_j

    You must give your cape and scepter to me!

  22. The majority of 100% black children (often the children of immigrants selected for their academics) are above the African-American average in intelligence.

    Right. My son’s smartest classmate in their highly selective Manhattan boys’ school (until he was unsurprisingly poached by another school, which I suspect must have actually paid him to matriculate) was a Nigerian-American kid whose father was some kind of big-shot MD at Mt. Sinai Hospital. A really brilliant boy and extraordinarily talented pianist–and very proficient: those are two different things, and evidently he’s not averse to actual practice.

    I can’t imagine how someone like him would interact with your average Afro-Am kid, but fortunately for him he probably won’t have to, much–apart from the occasional mugging. (I very much hope that doesn’t happen by the way: he and his family are very pleasant people.)

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Anon
    @slumber_j

    Is there any data on the standardized test scores of these high-performing Nigerians? I've never seen any. For some reason, I suspect that if they were acing SATs and GREs left and right, I'd have heard about it by now. All the coverage I've seen of this phenomenon focuses on the number of college and graduate degrees they earn. That said, something's clearly going on there that deserves more analysis.

    Replies: @epebble

    , @Peter Johnson
    @slumber_j

    Your son's experience is not surprising and reminds us that these statistics are just giving general patterns and not giving useful predictions for individual persons. Such a student being "poached" by another expensive school is probably what happened too. Sailer has written about how valuable such students are in contemporary high-tier educational setttings. That student will probably be attending Harvard or Stanford for free + stipend, unless his Dad insists on paying something.

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @slumber_j

    We shouldn't deprive Nigeria of such talented people.

    Then again, Thomas Sewell is getting pretty old so conservatives are going to need a new example of the smart black guy that they know. Can't have whites thinking as a people now can we.

    , @Charlesz Martel
    @slumber_j

    That smart African kid is most likely an Igbo- they have an average IQ of 106. (Equal to the N.E. Asian average). If he was a N.E. Asian, his existence would be so common it wouldn't be remarked upon, nor would it if he were an Ashkenazi Jew.
    The problem is that people like his family are being pulled out of Nigeria, which desperately needs smart people, and brought here so Whites can continue to believe in fantasies of future African-American intellectual equality. Just another 50 years and a few trillion more dollars, and Afghanistan will be Cleveland (or African-Americans will be Chinese!! Or something like that!!)

    Unfortunately, America doesn't have another 50 years.

    As Heartiste used to say, in the before time, "I'll he poolside"- in a beautiful, peaceful part of the world. It will undoubtedly die from the coming African population explosion, but I'll most likely die first.

    I have known some extremely smart Africans, but they're extremely rare, outside of an Igbo community. I have been told by more than one that African-Americans scare them to death.

    All I can do is tell them what an African-American friend of mine tells me- "We don't want to live with those "n-words" either!!"

  23. anon[276] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I think they left out Asians.

    Replies: @Pat Hannagan, @Achmed E. Newman, @Waylon Sisko, @anon, @Hypnotoad666

    I read it as the authors leaving out self-identifying Asians, but if a subject self-identified as Other then they would remain eligible.

    The category bins are based on self-identification while the pretty graphs are based on genetic analysis. The authors get to ignore the messiness of that mismatch by only doing the regressions on percentage Euro ancestry.

  24. @Steve Sailer
    @anon

    Thanks.

    Brazil's racial admixture structure is really different than America's because they didn't have a Color Line, they had a Color Continuum. Racial admixture structures are indeed socially constructed, but not in the way that academics use the term. Instead, a society's rules for mating will have a definite impact over the generations on who winds up with what DNA. But not many Americans have thought about how that works in a long time.

    Replies: @anon, @Travis

    in addition to having a Color Continuum Brazil had a much higher percentage of Blacks and indigenous and less European settlers compared to the USA.. A Strict color line is more difficult to maintain when the nation is just 30% European and the settlers are mostly males without wives.

  25. Anon[314] • Disclaimer says:
    @slumber_j

    The majority of 100% black children (often the children of immigrants selected for their academics) are above the African-American average in intelligence.
     
    Right. My son's smartest classmate in their highly selective Manhattan boys' school (until he was unsurprisingly poached by another school, which I suspect must have actually paid him to matriculate) was a Nigerian-American kid whose father was some kind of big-shot MD at Mt. Sinai Hospital. A really brilliant boy and extraordinarily talented pianist--and very proficient: those are two different things, and evidently he's not averse to actual practice.

    I can't imagine how someone like him would interact with your average Afro-Am kid, but fortunately for him he probably won't have to, much--apart from the occasional mugging. (I very much hope that doesn't happen by the way: he and his family are very pleasant people.)

    Replies: @Anon, @Peter Johnson, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Charlesz Martel

    Is there any data on the standardized test scores of these high-performing Nigerians? I’ve never seen any. For some reason, I suspect that if they were acing SATs and GREs left and right, I’d have heard about it by now. All the coverage I’ve seen of this phenomenon focuses on the number of college and graduate degrees they earn. That said, something’s clearly going on there that deserves more analysis.

    • Replies: @epebble
    @Anon

    https://www.blackentrepreneurprofile.com/collections/black-fortune-500-ceos

    gives a list of Black CEOs. Jide J. Zeitlin, Born: c. 1964, Ibadan, Nigeria was the Chairman and CEO of Tapestry, Inc.

    In July 2020, Tapestry CEO Jide Zeitlin resigned from his positions as CEO and chairman amidst an investigation into his personal behavior. Previously, a woman had accused him of luring her into a romantic relationship in 2007 by pretending to be a photographer.

  26. @slumber_j

    The majority of 100% black children (often the children of immigrants selected for their academics) are above the African-American average in intelligence.
     
    Right. My son's smartest classmate in their highly selective Manhattan boys' school (until he was unsurprisingly poached by another school, which I suspect must have actually paid him to matriculate) was a Nigerian-American kid whose father was some kind of big-shot MD at Mt. Sinai Hospital. A really brilliant boy and extraordinarily talented pianist--and very proficient: those are two different things, and evidently he's not averse to actual practice.

    I can't imagine how someone like him would interact with your average Afro-Am kid, but fortunately for him he probably won't have to, much--apart from the occasional mugging. (I very much hope that doesn't happen by the way: he and his family are very pleasant people.)

    Replies: @Anon, @Peter Johnson, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Charlesz Martel

    Your son’s experience is not surprising and reminds us that these statistics are just giving general patterns and not giving useful predictions for individual persons. Such a student being “poached” by another expensive school is probably what happened too. Sailer has written about how valuable such students are in contemporary high-tier educational setttings. That student will probably be attending Harvard or Stanford for free + stipend, unless his Dad insists on paying something.

  27. I’m trying to figure out how so many white kids are slightly less than 100% European considering the taboo on mixing until recently and the concentration of blacks in the South pre-Great Migration.

    Using +-g instead of IQ seems to hide racial differences better.

    Note the single child that identifies as black but is 100% European.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Ralph L

    The answer is obvious: the taboo was only for females. White men were actually ENCOURAGED and PREFERRED to mate with nonwhite women - just like they do today.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4289685/


    Sex Bias in Ancestry Contributions

    We find evidence that sex-biased admixture processes are widespread in US history in European Americans as well as in African American and Latino populations.

    Estimates of proportions of males and females from each ancestral population (Table S4) suggest that under a simple demographic model of admixture, European Americans might have ten times as many female Native American ancestors as male, and African Americans might have four times as many female Native American ancestors as male. Sex bias in ancestry contributions might have been driven by unbalanced sex ratios in immigration frontier settings,76 exploitation,77 or other social factors.


    Though we do not observe evidence of a sex bias in African ancestry contributions in European Americans overall, analysis of only those individuals with at least 1% African ancestry reveals 15% higher African ancestry on the X chromosome relative to genome-wide estimates (p value 0.013). This increase suggests female-African and male-European sex bias in European Americans that follows the same direction as in African Americans and Latinos, with greater male European and female African and Native American contributions.
     

    Note that in this study, whites from Louisiana were 8% Native American, and 3% African. So they're less than 90% white.
    , @Steve Sailer
    @Ralph L

    Also a little bit Amerindian, like Elizabeth Warren

  28. @anon
    @Steve Sailer


    Instead, a society’s rules for mating will have a definite impact over the generations on who winds up with what DNA. But not many Americans have thought about how that works in a long time.
     
    Someone should try to estimate. In 2100, will white newborns have on average higher or lower than 75% European ancestry?

    Replies: @Travis

    Whites in America are becoming less White each generation, but due to the flight from White , most Americans who are 10% Non-White will identify as non-White so those who identify was White will still be very White and even those who are mostly White will identify as Non-White.

    12% of African-Americans have a white parent today. Yet 100% of Whites have two White Parents. So Blacks are becoming genetically less Black. Back in 1980 only 4% of Blacks had a White parent. So three times as many Blacks today have a White Parent compared to the 1980s.

    20% of Black newlyweds have a Non-Black spouse. Just 11% of White newlyweds have a non-white spouse. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2017/05/18/1-trends-and-patterns-in-intermarriage/pst_2017-05-15-intermarriage-01-09/

    24% of Black male newlyweds have a Non-Black Spouse
    21% of Asian male newlyweds have a non-Asian Spouse
    12% of White males newlyweds have a non-white spouse

    Based on marriage and mating patterns it appears that Blacks are becoming less Black. But even Blacks who have 3 White Grandparents will continue to identify as Black. So Whites will remain mostly White, since those who are more than 10% N0n-WHite will not identify as White. For example, the Grandchildren of Jeb Bush will not identify as White, even though 3 of their grandparents are White. The Children of Ted Crux still be counted as Non-White.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Travis

    Wow dude, you're frickin' ignorant and have totally misinterpreted your statistics.


    24% of black men aren't married to a non-black spouse. I'm not even sure 24% of black men are married. Last I checked, less than 50% of black men are married. Your statistics are about the minority of black men who DO get married.


    Most YOUNG people aren't married. It's not the mid-20th century anymore. Your statistics don't tell us squat about any ethnicity. I guarantee you there are way more white men in interracial relationships than 11%.


    There is no evidence that blacks are becoming less black. If anything, Steve's data in this post indicates they are becoming blacker, just as Hispanics are becoming more Amerindian. Previous studies on black adults reported 20-25% European ancestry in blacks. This more recent study reports 18%.

    Replies: @Travis

    , @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @Travis

    The children of Ted Cruz still qualify for affirmative action because they have a Cuban Grandfather. The Grandkids of Jeb Bush are counted as Hispanic and will get affirmative action benefits.

    It will be interesting in a few years when 60% of American High School Grads will qualify for affirmative action. Will Americans start to lose affirmative action benefits when 7 of their 8 great grandparents are White ? Will the great-grandchildren of Ted Cruz still be counted as Hispanic ?

    Today half of the African-American students at Harvard have a white parent, and most of their Hispanic students are White Hispanics like Ted Cruz, but few seem to notice or care.

    Replies: @PaceLaw

    , @epebble
    @Travis

    most Americans who are 10% Non-White will identify as non-White

    Do you have any research that backs this up?

    A large fraction of White - Non-White Americans is White - Asian, who don't reflexively run away from White. In fact, it is advantageous sometimes to identify as White instead of Asian.

  29. The intelligence-Euro admixture correlation for Hispanics is a modest but visible o.23

    This correlation is smaller than I’d expect. There’s no equivalent of a group like Igbos for AmIndians. But I think you identified the reason why:

    (Note that the study excludes children who don’t speak English and parents who don’t speak English or Spanish, which would tend to exclude, say, Mixtec speakers.)

    Btw, if you look Bryan Pesta’s profile, he’s somewhat persona non grata for researching into naughty areas (but hasn’t been Richwine’d). He has papers like these,

    The Wonderlic Personnel Test and elementary cognitive tasks as predictors of religious sectarianism, scriptural acceptance and religious questioning

    Only in America: Cold Winters Theory, race, IQ and well-being
    https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=YoRL-NQAAAAJ&hl=en

  30. @Cosmohicks
    Is there even a hypothesis accounting for the data from the religiously taboo-encrusted mainstream? I'm thinking about people I've actually respected--Nassim Taleb seems smugly dumb, Hitchens seems dead, Steven Pinker came up with astounding new copes for opponents of race realism in "Better Angels of our Nature" (humans are so violence-variable, any race could be from 89.1 FM to 107.9 at any time!) and no one even noticed? An amazing book, but again--never saw a peep even trying to re-purpose this into convincing you human races just on different wavelengths, so we need more integration and busing, even though it was ideal for it--almost like humans don't read or think and actual arguments not even worth it. War Nerd seems science-averse, and never mentions it. Andrew Sullivan sent into exile to actually make money, at Substack, cuz he couldn't be bothered to say 'that's definitely wrong'.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @obwandiyag, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia

    Nassim Taleb seems smugly dumb

    He makes a fair point because if you look at European country IQ/PISA scores you’d expect Finland and Estonia to be the Cradle of Western Civilization. But in fact it’s more or less the land of his ancestors.

    On the other hand, he’s like 5’8 so iSteve would tower over him.

  31. Genetic Ancestry

    Is there another kind?

    and General Cognitive Ability

    Steve is 16 years younger than Biden. Still…

    • Replies: @Chuck
    @Reg Cæsar

    Genealogical ancestry, which is not the same. Mixed race full sibs can differ in the latter, not the former.

    , @Bill Jones
    @Reg Cæsar


    Genetic Ancestry . Is there another kind?
     
    Sure, Anecdotal ancestry. "My great grandfather, the slave who invented electricity before Edison stole it off him..."

    Coming to a school near you.
  32. @Bill Jones
    Enough numbers Steve, play with this instead.


    “Larry Elder is the Black Face of White Supremacy. You’ve Been Warned”
     
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/actual-la-times-headline-larry-elder-black-face-white-supremacy-warned/

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Telling people not to litter is the real white supremacy. And to wear masks, too. Not fascism, but Faucism.

    Erika D Smith, she don’ live in da ‘hood. She ride da train:

  33. Anon[377] • Disclaimer says:

    Things I notice:

    “Hispanics (green dots) average 60% European, 28% Amerindian, and 10% African genetic ancestry.”

    Mexico was originally a country of almost 100% Amerindians plus a few Spaniard immigrants. Yet 60% of Hispanic genes today are European. They ought to be something like 95% Amerindian plus 5% European. But they’re not. The results are plain.

    Mexico has been gradually turning into a genetically European country over the last 500 years. Amerindian genes are being weeded out and population replacement is taking place. This is supposed to be the sort of thing that doesn’t happen very much from what we know of genes and population statistics. Anthropologists say underlying ancestral genes tend to predominate long-term. Yet Mexico’s native American genes are vanishing.

    People say Indo-European genes spread throughout Europe by Indo males killing off other non-Indo males. I don’t think so. I think they just outbred other gene lines because they were smarter and more successful, and what’s more, so did the Indo females.

    The fact that the average Mexican is no longer living like someone in Mongolia isn’t usually ascribed to their growing percentage of European genes, but it probably ought to be. I strongly suspect that within 6 generations, Hispanics who immigrated to the U.S. in the 1980s will have descendants with almost no Amerindian genes anymore. They’ll be more like Mediterranean whites.

    However, the statistics on blacks are also interesting. It’s clear that a black/white half-breed person normally can only find a mostly or all-black person to mate with, so that the white percentage of genes inside blacks stays low for generation after generation, despite the fact that blacks have lived long-term alongside whites for 500 years. So if you decide to have a kid with a black person, your kids are highly likely to marry black instead of white. Whites consider half-bred blacks to be pariahs.

    However, both studies make it plain that for real brains, you’d better be 100% white. Those white genes have an additive effect when it comes to IQ.

    • Replies: @Ralph L
    @Anon

    How do you explain the first graph and this:
    The authors found that self-identified white children have 98% white ancestry, 1% black, and 1% Amerindian ?
    The taboo wasn't as strong with Amerinds (though proud FFV descendants of Pocahontas had to get a special exemption from Virginia racial laws). Perhaps the mixing with Africans took place much earlier in Europe, such as George III's wife.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia

    , @Anon
    @Anon


    People say Indo-European genes spread throughout Europe by Indo males killing off other non-Indo males. I don’t think so. I think they just outbred other gene lines because they were smarter and more successful, and what’s more, so did the Indo females.
     
    That's not correct. There's actual physical evidence of European farmers slaughtered by the Corded Ware culture, and the timeframs of the Indo-European expansions was too fast and acute. The Indo-European females themselves were replaced by non-Indo-European women (these people technically never had their own women). Indo-European men don't like their own women and like to replace them every few generations.
    , @Travis
    @Anon

    The demographic changes observed in Mexico are fascinating

    They imported 250,000 African Slaves and just 20,000 Spaniards settled in New Spain prior to 1650. Among Europeans and Africans the shortage of females insured much interbreeding, if not intermarriage, with Amerindians. The Spanish population of Mexico peaked at 12,000 around the year 1650. Very few Europeans migrated into New Spain, because the Spanish kept their borders closed to all non-Spanish Europeans.

    The census in 1793 in New Spain (Mexico) counted 4 million inhabitants in Mexico, which about the same population as the United States on the 1790 census.

    While the US had the same population people in 1790 as Mexico, we had more Europeans and more Blacks. The US had 3.2 million Whites and 750,00 Blacks in 1790. Mexico had 8,000 Europeans (all Spanish) and 500,000 Black and Mulattoes and 1 million Mestizos and 2 million Indians.

    It is quite stunning how fast the Mexican population became homogenized. For people of African roots— 250,000 slaves were imported into Mexico yet slavery gradually withered away. By the beginning of the eighteenth-century, cheap labor was too abundant for slavery to compete. Then, too, slaves helped destroy slavery, by fleeing, extracting concessions, taking advantage of church law, and forming communities of free people called mulatos or pardos. Afro-Mexicans with conscious identities based on kinship numbered more than one-half million by 1810 and constituted the largest group of free blacks in the Western hemisphere.
    https://users.pop.umn.edu/~rmccaa/mxpoprev/img002.gif

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Flip
    @Anon


    Mexico was originally a country of almost 100% Amerindians plus a few Spaniard immigrants. Yet 60% of Hispanic genes today are European. They ought to be something like 95% Amerindian plus 5% European. But they’re not. The results are plain.
     
    ''

    Many of the early Indian women chose or were forced to breed with Spanish men instead of their own men, so that caused those results.
  34. Seeing how the graph changes over time could show the “Flight-from-White” phenomenon. Do those identifying as black or Hispanic have a greater % European ancestry over time? When they retest the kids in 10 years, how many will switch their self-identification from white to black, Hispanic, or other? And check out the 10-year-old Rachel Dolezal in the self-identified as black graph with almost 100% European ancestry.

    On another note, for self-identified blacks with a g factor 2 standard deviations g above the mean, you can count them. For Hispanics the same. For whites, not so much. Also, why the change in the scale for g in the black self-identified only graph?

    Any thoughts on the tailing down in g as % white approaches 100? Could this be recent immigration from Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and North Africa?

  35. @Steve Sailer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I think they left out Asians.

    Replies: @Pat Hannagan, @Achmed E. Newman, @Waylon Sisko, @anon, @Hypnotoad666

    I think they left out Asians.

    It sounds like they just excluded people who self-identified as “Asian.” But they included people who self identified as “Other.” So my guess is that the high scorer self-identifies as Eurasian or Mixed Race.

    Also, I noticed there was one future Sean King who self-identified as Black but has 100% White ancestry.

  36. @slumber_j

    The majority of 100% black children (often the children of immigrants selected for their academics) are above the African-American average in intelligence.
     
    Right. My son's smartest classmate in their highly selective Manhattan boys' school (until he was unsurprisingly poached by another school, which I suspect must have actually paid him to matriculate) was a Nigerian-American kid whose father was some kind of big-shot MD at Mt. Sinai Hospital. A really brilliant boy and extraordinarily talented pianist--and very proficient: those are two different things, and evidently he's not averse to actual practice.

    I can't imagine how someone like him would interact with your average Afro-Am kid, but fortunately for him he probably won't have to, much--apart from the occasional mugging. (I very much hope that doesn't happen by the way: he and his family are very pleasant people.)

    Replies: @Anon, @Peter Johnson, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Charlesz Martel

    We shouldn’t deprive Nigeria of such talented people.

    Then again, Thomas Sewell is getting pretty old so conservatives are going to need a new example of the smart black guy that they know. Can’t have whites thinking as a people now can we.

  37. Anon[382] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ralph L
    I'm trying to figure out how so many white kids are slightly less than 100% European considering the taboo on mixing until recently and the concentration of blacks in the South pre-Great Migration.

    Using +-g instead of IQ seems to hide racial differences better.

    Note the single child that identifies as black but is 100% European.

    Replies: @Anon, @Steve Sailer

    The answer is obvious: the taboo was only for females. White men were actually ENCOURAGED and PREFERRED to mate with nonwhite women – just like they do today.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4289685/

    Sex Bias in Ancestry Contributions

    We find evidence that sex-biased admixture processes are widespread in US history in European Americans as well as in African American and Latino populations.

    Estimates of proportions of males and females from each ancestral population (Table S4) suggest that under a simple demographic model of admixture, European Americans might have ten times as many female Native American ancestors as male, and African Americans might have four times as many female Native American ancestors as male. Sex bias in ancestry contributions might have been driven by unbalanced sex ratios in immigration frontier settings,76 exploitation,77 or other social factors.

    Though we do not observe evidence of a sex bias in African ancestry contributions in European Americans overall, analysis of only those individuals with at least 1% African ancestry reveals 15% higher African ancestry on the X chromosome relative to genome-wide estimates (p value 0.013). This increase suggests female-African and male-European sex bias in European Americans that follows the same direction as in African Americans and Latinos, with greater male European and female African and Native American contributions.

    Note that in this study, whites from Louisiana were 8% Native American, and 3% African. So they’re less than 90% white.

  38. @Cosmohicks
    Is there even a hypothesis accounting for the data from the religiously taboo-encrusted mainstream? I'm thinking about people I've actually respected--Nassim Taleb seems smugly dumb, Hitchens seems dead, Steven Pinker came up with astounding new copes for opponents of race realism in "Better Angels of our Nature" (humans are so violence-variable, any race could be from 89.1 FM to 107.9 at any time!) and no one even noticed? An amazing book, but again--never saw a peep even trying to re-purpose this into convincing you human races just on different wavelengths, so we need more integration and busing, even though it was ideal for it--almost like humans don't read or think and actual arguments not even worth it. War Nerd seems science-averse, and never mentions it. Andrew Sullivan sent into exile to actually make money, at Substack, cuz he couldn't be bothered to say 'that's definitely wrong'.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @obwandiyag, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia

    Kinda dumb, aren’t you. You must be half black.

  39. Tax funded (political) science is just as crappy as tax funded education.

  40. Ex-NBA player Andrew Bogut spills the beans on celebrity COVID-influencers:

    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CS00F6nnygH/

  41. Alright ….. Now, I’d like to see tests on moral development, cowardice, conformism, ingenuity, individualism, …

  42. @Anon
    Things I notice:

    "Hispanics (green dots) average 60% European, 28% Amerindian, and 10% African genetic ancestry."

    Mexico was originally a country of almost 100% Amerindians plus a few Spaniard immigrants. Yet 60% of Hispanic genes today are European. They ought to be something like 95% Amerindian plus 5% European. But they're not. The results are plain.

    Mexico has been gradually turning into a genetically European country over the last 500 years. Amerindian genes are being weeded out and population replacement is taking place. This is supposed to be the sort of thing that doesn't happen very much from what we know of genes and population statistics. Anthropologists say underlying ancestral genes tend to predominate long-term. Yet Mexico's native American genes are vanishing.

    People say Indo-European genes spread throughout Europe by Indo males killing off other non-Indo males. I don't think so. I think they just outbred other gene lines because they were smarter and more successful, and what's more, so did the Indo females.

    The fact that the average Mexican is no longer living like someone in Mongolia isn't usually ascribed to their growing percentage of European genes, but it probably ought to be. I strongly suspect that within 6 generations, Hispanics who immigrated to the U.S. in the 1980s will have descendants with almost no Amerindian genes anymore. They'll be more like Mediterranean whites.

    However, the statistics on blacks are also interesting. It's clear that a black/white half-breed person normally can only find a mostly or all-black person to mate with, so that the white percentage of genes inside blacks stays low for generation after generation, despite the fact that blacks have lived long-term alongside whites for 500 years. So if you decide to have a kid with a black person, your kids are highly likely to marry black instead of white. Whites consider half-bred blacks to be pariahs.

    However, both studies make it plain that for real brains, you'd better be 100% white. Those white genes have an additive effect when it comes to IQ.

    Replies: @Ralph L, @Anon, @Travis, @Flip

    How do you explain the first graph and this:
    The authors found that self-identified white children have 98% white ancestry, 1% black, and 1% Amerindian ?
    The taboo wasn’t as strong with Amerinds (though proud FFV descendants of Pocahontas had to get a special exemption from Virginia racial laws). Perhaps the mixing with Africans took place much earlier in Europe, such as George III’s wife.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    @Ralph L

    King George’s wife wasn’t black or part-black. She was almost 100 % German.

    Mixing with blacks among American whites didn’t take place in Europe, but mainly through white men + mixed race women in the Deep South in the 1700s. The color line didn’t get that strict until there was an increase in slave uprisings and news of the Haitian massacres spread. Ironically, the white Haitian refugees who arrived in the late 1700s/early 1800s and brought these tales were usually not totally white themselves, and likely had ethnic breakdowns more like modern-day Brazilian whites, but with French instead of Portuguese.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Truth

  43. Anonymous[234] • Disclaimer says:

    BORING! Is anyone surprised by the results? Will the paper change minds of Blank Slaters even though 9999 other papers have not?

    At this point in time, it’s not even a real science! In the same way as publishing thousands of papers showing universal applicability of Newtonian laws is not science if it’s sole reason is to argue against religious fanatics that, despite of all the evidence, insist that gravity cannot be usefully accounted for by a few simple equations.

    Time to stop this threading water bullshit and move onto things that are not understood and need explanations or solutions.

    E.g., suppose the reason has won and practically all agree that yes, unfortunately as it might be, blacks are less intelligent than whites and not much can be done about it because majority of the difference is pure genetics. THEN WHAT? What are the rational practical implications for human societies? Is co-existence possible and based on what rules? Is non-coercive eugenics feasible in solving the problem in the long term? Etc, etc.

  44. My sister, who is retired, taught high school and as an adjunct professor at a southern university. The black African students had parents associated with the university and were intelligent. They did not “hang with” American black students. The Africans deemed the black Americans stupid.

  45. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Waylon Sisko

    That's just what I was thinking, Waylon, when I saw the triangle - it works great for 3 groups. (Which, BTW, when I was a kid, were just described, differently than in this study for just "Americans", as the 3 races of Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid in a world atlas we had.) Yeah, now you'd need at the very least, a tetrahedron, which, when you think about it, would work OK if the data were presented on touch screens.

    Glad to hear (read) from you, Waylon!

    Replies: @Waylon Sisko

    Thanks! –and I really dig the psueudonym! (“What, me worry? Infidel! KABOOM!”)

    Older generations might have been prejudiced, even if understandably so, but they weren’t warped by political correctness, and so it seems they could see things more clearly. There really are three big races OR four, depending on how one counts groups from South Asia, groups from East Asia, and the American aboriginal population — and depending on the theory of migration from Asia, our ancestors might have had good reason for mistaking that population for Indians.

    We just need clear thinking on the subject of race AND reasonable terminology, and neither are feasible when we’re dealing with lunatics who are looking to be offended.

    PS – that book I referenced, Understanding Comics by Scott McCloud, is an EXCELLENT explanation for how and why comic books and graphic novels work as an art form, far beyond the particular genre of costumed superheroes.

  46. @bob sykes
    Tufte's main recommendation was, that before doing any statistics, plot the data and look at it. If you do that, it is obvious that for 10-years olds, at least, there is no effect of percentage white ancestry on g.

    None.

    Replies: @Chuck, @AnotherDad

    Statistically illiterate. These correlations were around the max possible given the restrictions in ranges in ancestry.

    Look at the betas. Almost all of the gaps were explained by genetic ancestry. Close to 100 percent.

  47. @Reg Cæsar

    Genetic Ancestry
     
    Is there another kind?

    and General Cognitive Ability
     
    Steve is 16 years younger than Biden. Still...

    Replies: @Chuck, @Bill Jones

    Genealogical ancestry, which is not the same. Mixed race full sibs can differ in the latter, not the former.

  48. Steve, a correlation of .33 is large by convention. It’s equivalent to 1 Sd, when treated as a point biserial correlation (two groups, dcotomized)

  49. Children, no matter what their race, do much better if their parents invest time in their learning when they are young. Simple things like colors and shapes and up and down and textures are not hard to teach to a child. “Where’s your nose? Where’s your ears? Where’s your eyes ? Isn’t this soft? Where’s the dog?” sound simple but they lead to a young child’s learning. Surprisingly many children make it to kintergarten without knowing things like colors or up and down or front and back. That is sad, and people worry about illiteracy in adult Afghans. This country fails our children and then wonders why we have disfunctional adults.

  50. Anon[428] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Things I notice:

    "Hispanics (green dots) average 60% European, 28% Amerindian, and 10% African genetic ancestry."

    Mexico was originally a country of almost 100% Amerindians plus a few Spaniard immigrants. Yet 60% of Hispanic genes today are European. They ought to be something like 95% Amerindian plus 5% European. But they're not. The results are plain.

    Mexico has been gradually turning into a genetically European country over the last 500 years. Amerindian genes are being weeded out and population replacement is taking place. This is supposed to be the sort of thing that doesn't happen very much from what we know of genes and population statistics. Anthropologists say underlying ancestral genes tend to predominate long-term. Yet Mexico's native American genes are vanishing.

    People say Indo-European genes spread throughout Europe by Indo males killing off other non-Indo males. I don't think so. I think they just outbred other gene lines because they were smarter and more successful, and what's more, so did the Indo females.

    The fact that the average Mexican is no longer living like someone in Mongolia isn't usually ascribed to their growing percentage of European genes, but it probably ought to be. I strongly suspect that within 6 generations, Hispanics who immigrated to the U.S. in the 1980s will have descendants with almost no Amerindian genes anymore. They'll be more like Mediterranean whites.

    However, the statistics on blacks are also interesting. It's clear that a black/white half-breed person normally can only find a mostly or all-black person to mate with, so that the white percentage of genes inside blacks stays low for generation after generation, despite the fact that blacks have lived long-term alongside whites for 500 years. So if you decide to have a kid with a black person, your kids are highly likely to marry black instead of white. Whites consider half-bred blacks to be pariahs.

    However, both studies make it plain that for real brains, you'd better be 100% white. Those white genes have an additive effect when it comes to IQ.

    Replies: @Ralph L, @Anon, @Travis, @Flip

    People say Indo-European genes spread throughout Europe by Indo males killing off other non-Indo males. I don’t think so. I think they just outbred other gene lines because they were smarter and more successful, and what’s more, so did the Indo females.

    That’s not correct. There’s actual physical evidence of European farmers slaughtered by the Corded Ware culture, and the timeframs of the Indo-European expansions was too fast and acute. The Indo-European females themselves were replaced by non-Indo-European women (these people technically never had their own women). Indo-European men don’t like their own women and like to replace them every few generations.

  51. Anon[109] • Disclaimer says:
    @Travis
    @anon

    Whites in America are becoming less White each generation, but due to the flight from White , most Americans who are 10% Non-White will identify as non-White so those who identify was White will still be very White and even those who are mostly White will identify as Non-White.

    12% of African-Americans have a white parent today. Yet 100% of Whites have two White Parents. So Blacks are becoming genetically less Black. Back in 1980 only 4% of Blacks had a White parent. So three times as many Blacks today have a White Parent compared to the 1980s.

    20% of Black newlyweds have a Non-Black spouse. Just 11% of White newlyweds have a non-white spouse. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2017/05/18/1-trends-and-patterns-in-intermarriage/pst_2017-05-15-intermarriage-01-09/

    24% of Black male newlyweds have a Non-Black Spouse
    21% of Asian male newlyweds have a non-Asian Spouse
    12% of White males newlyweds have a non-white spouse

    Based on marriage and mating patterns it appears that Blacks are becoming less Black. But even Blacks who have 3 White Grandparents will continue to identify as Black. So Whites will remain mostly White, since those who are more than 10% N0n-WHite will not identify as White. For example, the Grandchildren of Jeb Bush will not identify as White, even though 3 of their grandparents are White. The Children of Ted Crux still be counted as Non-White.

    Replies: @Anon, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @epebble

    Wow dude, you’re frickin’ ignorant and have totally misinterpreted your statistics.

    24% of black men aren’t married to a non-black spouse. I’m not even sure 24% of black men are married. Last I checked, less than 50% of black men are married. Your statistics are about the minority of black men who DO get married.

    Most YOUNG people aren’t married. It’s not the mid-20th century anymore. Your statistics don’t tell us squat about any ethnicity. I guarantee you there are way more white men in interracial relationships than 11%.

    There is no evidence that blacks are becoming less black. If anything, Steve’s data in this post indicates they are becoming blacker, just as Hispanics are becoming more Amerindian. Previous studies on black adults reported 20-25% European ancestry in blacks. This more recent study reports 18%.

    • Replies: @Travis
    @Anon

    These statistics came from Pew Research and concern newlyweds.According to Pew 24% of Black male newlyweds have a Non-Black Spouse and 12% of Black females newlyweds married a Non-Black husband. Yet only about 5% of Whites are married to a Black spouse.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2017/05/18/1-trends-and-patterns-in-intermarriage/pst_2017-05-15-intermarriage-01-09/

    The 2010 census calculated that 9% of Black men had a White wife and 5% had a Hispanic wife and 1% had an Asian wife. 15% of Married Black men had a Non-Black wife in 2010.

  52. @Ralph L
    @Anon

    How do you explain the first graph and this:
    The authors found that self-identified white children have 98% white ancestry, 1% black, and 1% Amerindian ?
    The taboo wasn't as strong with Amerinds (though proud FFV descendants of Pocahontas had to get a special exemption from Virginia racial laws). Perhaps the mixing with Africans took place much earlier in Europe, such as George III's wife.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia

    King George’s wife wasn’t black or part-black. She was almost 100 % German.

    Mixing with blacks among American whites didn’t take place in Europe, but mainly through white men + mixed race women in the Deep South in the 1700s. The color line didn’t get that strict until there was an increase in slave uprisings and news of the Haitian massacres spread. Ironically, the white Haitian refugees who arrived in the late 1700s/early 1800s and brought these tales were usually not totally white themselves, and likely had ethnic breakdowns more like modern-day Brazilian whites, but with French instead of Portuguese.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @S. Anonyia

    Charleston, SC tended to be founded by rich Barbadians, some of whom were mixed race.

    , @Truth
    @S. Anonyia

    Not exactly.

    https://collectionimages.npg.org.uk/large/mw70209/King-James-I-of-England-and-VI-of-Scotland.jpg

    https://www.thepatriot.co.zw/old_posts/king-james-was-black-part-one/

  53. @slumber_j

    The majority of 100% black children (often the children of immigrants selected for their academics) are above the African-American average in intelligence.
     
    Right. My son's smartest classmate in their highly selective Manhattan boys' school (until he was unsurprisingly poached by another school, which I suspect must have actually paid him to matriculate) was a Nigerian-American kid whose father was some kind of big-shot MD at Mt. Sinai Hospital. A really brilliant boy and extraordinarily talented pianist--and very proficient: those are two different things, and evidently he's not averse to actual practice.

    I can't imagine how someone like him would interact with your average Afro-Am kid, but fortunately for him he probably won't have to, much--apart from the occasional mugging. (I very much hope that doesn't happen by the way: he and his family are very pleasant people.)

    Replies: @Anon, @Peter Johnson, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Charlesz Martel

    That smart African kid is most likely an Igbo- they have an average IQ of 106. (Equal to the N.E. Asian average). If he was a N.E. Asian, his existence would be so common it wouldn’t be remarked upon, nor would it if he were an Ashkenazi Jew.
    The problem is that people like his family are being pulled out of Nigeria, which desperately needs smart people, and brought here so Whites can continue to believe in fantasies of future African-American intellectual equality. Just another 50 years and a few trillion more dollars, and Afghanistan will be Cleveland (or African-Americans will be Chinese!! Or something like that!!)

    Unfortunately, America doesn’t have another 50 years.

    As Heartiste used to say, in the before time, “I’ll he poolside”- in a beautiful, peaceful part of the world. It will undoubtedly die from the coming African population explosion, but I’ll most likely die first.

    I have known some extremely smart Africans, but they’re extremely rare, outside of an Igbo community. I have been told by more than one that African-Americans scare them to death.

    All I can do is tell them what an African-American friend of mine tells me- “We don’t want to live with those “n-words” either!!”

  54. @bob sykes
    Tufte's main recommendation was, that before doing any statistics, plot the data and look at it. If you do that, it is obvious that for 10-years olds, at least, there is no effect of percentage white ancestry on g.

    None.

    Replies: @Chuck, @AnotherDad

    Tufte’s main recommendation was, that before doing any statistics, plot the data and look at it. If you do that, it is obvious that for 10-years olds, at least, there is no effect of percentage white ancestry on g.

    None.

    Your eye/brain is doing some sort of “leveling”. Mine did, then i actually looked at where the distributions are on the sides, where their means/medians appear to be.

    The graph is too “overstretched” to just glance at. 1 SD in g vertically–which is pretty darn significant in terms of behavior and life outcomes–is roughly the same distance as 10% white ancestry horizontally.

  55. @SimpleQuestion
    @Pat Hannagan

    There are many comments on here and Twitter where people are surprised that Steve isn't being read in the Wall Street Journal.

    Then I see comments that casually use "****".

    Steve, consider deleting this (unless I'm missing an inside joke here).

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @iffen

    Why would something a commenter says affect Sailer being published in the WSJ? He should be published there before many of the globalist tools and schmucks writing there over the years.

  56. And children who identify as white and are very close to 100% white seem to score slightly lower on the tests than whites who are a few percent nonwhite by ancestry.

    aka Jews. I am surprised no other commenter pointed this out yet.

    As far has US Hispanics being 60% European, I am skeptical. I have always been under the impression that most post-1965 immigration by Hispanics has been about 35-40% white.

    The 60% number is probably the product of an influx of examples of a 96% white person who maybe had one Mexican-American great-great grandparent, and would have simply called himself/herself ‘white’ until 2010, is now reclassifying himself/herself as Hispanic. That is a bigger factor in the rise of the ‘Hispanic’ population (and shrinkage of the white population) than anything else.

    Frankly, the ‘Hispanic’ meme is the easiest path to affirmative action, since almost anyone can be Hispanic (even Mitt Romney, since his father was born in Mexico). If an Asian-American or white wants to get into an Ivy League school, the steps should be :

    i) Learn fluent Spanish. That is the most important extra-curricular activity of all.
    ii) Add a Spanish-sounding middle name to their name.

    Bingo. The chance of the Asian getting into Harvard is suddenly 30x higher, and of a white kid getting into Harvard is 6x higher. An East Asian, even an obviously Chinese one, should claim to be a Filipino with Mexican ancestors from early 20th-century CA who intermarried with the Chinese of Chinatown after the Exclusion Act of 1882. A South Asian should claim to have some Portuguese connection that had Spanish crossover during the Iberian Union resulting in a Mexican/Cuban/Dominican ancestor.

    This strategy is way above the head of the admissions officer SJWs, so they won’t be able to contest the claim.

    Voila. Hack the AA game, since ‘Hispanic’ isn’t a race.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Thomm

    "As far has US Hispanics being 60% European, I am skeptical. I have always been under the impression that most post-1965 immigration by Hispanics has been about 35-40% white."

    For the convenience of the administrators of the study, the 9 year olds have to speak English. And their parents have to speak English or Spanish. This and some other selection effects seem to select for a slightly whiter and smarter sample of Hispanics -- the IQ gap was smaller than in Roth's 2017 meta-analyses, but it was pretty steeply correlated with European ancestry.

  57. @SimpleQuestion
    @Pat Hannagan

    There are many comments on here and Twitter where people are surprised that Steve isn't being read in the Wall Street Journal.

    Then I see comments that casually use "****".

    Steve, consider deleting this (unless I'm missing an inside joke here).

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @iffen

    Maybe the writer meant kite and his spellcheck was corrupted.

  58. @Ralph L
    I'm trying to figure out how so many white kids are slightly less than 100% European considering the taboo on mixing until recently and the concentration of blacks in the South pre-Great Migration.

    Using +-g instead of IQ seems to hide racial differences better.

    Note the single child that identifies as black but is 100% European.

    Replies: @Anon, @Steve Sailer

    Also a little bit Amerindian, like Elizabeth Warren

  59. @Thomm

    And children who identify as white and are very close to 100% white seem to score slightly lower on the tests than whites who are a few percent nonwhite by ancestry.
     
    aka Jews. I am surprised no other commenter pointed this out yet.

    As far has US Hispanics being 60% European, I am skeptical. I have always been under the impression that most post-1965 immigration by Hispanics has been about 35-40% white.

    The 60% number is probably the product of an influx of examples of a 96% white person who maybe had one Mexican-American great-great grandparent, and would have simply called himself/herself 'white' until 2010, is now reclassifying himself/herself as Hispanic. That is a bigger factor in the rise of the 'Hispanic' population (and shrinkage of the white population) than anything else.

    Frankly, the 'Hispanic' meme is the easiest path to affirmative action, since almost anyone can be Hispanic (even Mitt Romney, since his father was born in Mexico). If an Asian-American or white wants to get into an Ivy League school, the steps should be :

    i) Learn fluent Spanish. That is the most important extra-curricular activity of all.
    ii) Add a Spanish-sounding middle name to their name.

    Bingo. The chance of the Asian getting into Harvard is suddenly 30x higher, and of a white kid getting into Harvard is 6x higher. An East Asian, even an obviously Chinese one, should claim to be a Filipino with Mexican ancestors from early 20th-century CA who intermarried with the Chinese of Chinatown after the Exclusion Act of 1882. A South Asian should claim to have some Portuguese connection that had Spanish crossover during the Iberian Union resulting in a Mexican/Cuban/Dominican ancestor.

    This strategy is way above the head of the admissions officer SJWs, so they won't be able to contest the claim.

    Voila. Hack the AA game, since 'Hispanic' isn't a race.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    “As far has US Hispanics being 60% European, I am skeptical. I have always been under the impression that most post-1965 immigration by Hispanics has been about 35-40% white.”

    For the convenience of the administrators of the study, the 9 year olds have to speak English. And their parents have to speak English or Spanish. This and some other selection effects seem to select for a slightly whiter and smarter sample of Hispanics — the IQ gap was smaller than in Roth’s 2017 meta-analyses, but it was pretty steeply correlated with European ancestry.

  60. @S. Anonyia
    @Ralph L

    King George’s wife wasn’t black or part-black. She was almost 100 % German.

    Mixing with blacks among American whites didn’t take place in Europe, but mainly through white men + mixed race women in the Deep South in the 1700s. The color line didn’t get that strict until there was an increase in slave uprisings and news of the Haitian massacres spread. Ironically, the white Haitian refugees who arrived in the late 1700s/early 1800s and brought these tales were usually not totally white themselves, and likely had ethnic breakdowns more like modern-day Brazilian whites, but with French instead of Portuguese.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Truth

    Charleston, SC tended to be founded by rich Barbadians, some of whom were mixed race.

    • Thanks: S. Anonyia
  61. To me it looks like the takeaway is twofold: White people are really white and they have a greater dispersion of g-factor across the population.

    I know this sounds like heresy around here, but that would seem to validate the gut-level response of people who think that white privilege is a thing. White people stick together and form tighter families that take care of each other, which results in greater amounts of inherited wealth and useful networking and all-around salubriousness of culture and environment, which allows those whites who can benefit from such things to fulfill their potential while also implying that the lower half of whites have no such potential even under the best circumstances and are therefore not racially superior.

    Black people (and their white sympathizers) could be forgiven for thinking that “their race” never had the chance to develop under such ideal conditions, and this is what fuels the push for “equity.” Even though it is a crude and criminal enterprise, even though it is expressed in intellectual forms endlessly distorted both deliberately and accidentally, even though it is hobbled by raw emotionalism and all the typical character defects mankind, even though it is politically exploited by soulless demagogues—even in spite of all of this—there is something to that. And it will not do any good to deny that resonance of humanity and just write black people off as genetically inferior and congenitally hopeless.

    The appropriate policy question is what ought to be done about it. There are two possible answers to this: There is the Affirmative Action, welfare, soft-on-crime, mollycoddling approach; or there is the Booker T. Washington approach of insisting to black people that, however unfair their past has been, it is still up to them to make the long struggle upward, to act like adults, and to not expect handouts from anyone. The first approach has clearly failed, but the second one works when it is enforced.

    However boring it is to say so, the old DR3 attitude is basically correct. The key to blacks “making it” is to stop the infantilization and special treatment. Apply the same standards to everyone. Both sides of America’s political divide desperately need to readjust their priors on this or the resulting morass will lead to injustice and dehumanization for everyone.

  62. @Anon
    Things I notice:

    "Hispanics (green dots) average 60% European, 28% Amerindian, and 10% African genetic ancestry."

    Mexico was originally a country of almost 100% Amerindians plus a few Spaniard immigrants. Yet 60% of Hispanic genes today are European. They ought to be something like 95% Amerindian plus 5% European. But they're not. The results are plain.

    Mexico has been gradually turning into a genetically European country over the last 500 years. Amerindian genes are being weeded out and population replacement is taking place. This is supposed to be the sort of thing that doesn't happen very much from what we know of genes and population statistics. Anthropologists say underlying ancestral genes tend to predominate long-term. Yet Mexico's native American genes are vanishing.

    People say Indo-European genes spread throughout Europe by Indo males killing off other non-Indo males. I don't think so. I think they just outbred other gene lines because they were smarter and more successful, and what's more, so did the Indo females.

    The fact that the average Mexican is no longer living like someone in Mongolia isn't usually ascribed to their growing percentage of European genes, but it probably ought to be. I strongly suspect that within 6 generations, Hispanics who immigrated to the U.S. in the 1980s will have descendants with almost no Amerindian genes anymore. They'll be more like Mediterranean whites.

    However, the statistics on blacks are also interesting. It's clear that a black/white half-breed person normally can only find a mostly or all-black person to mate with, so that the white percentage of genes inside blacks stays low for generation after generation, despite the fact that blacks have lived long-term alongside whites for 500 years. So if you decide to have a kid with a black person, your kids are highly likely to marry black instead of white. Whites consider half-bred blacks to be pariahs.

    However, both studies make it plain that for real brains, you'd better be 100% white. Those white genes have an additive effect when it comes to IQ.

    Replies: @Ralph L, @Anon, @Travis, @Flip

    The demographic changes observed in Mexico are fascinating

    They imported 250,000 African Slaves and just 20,000 Spaniards settled in New Spain prior to 1650. Among Europeans and Africans the shortage of females insured much interbreeding, if not intermarriage, with Amerindians. The Spanish population of Mexico peaked at 12,000 around the year 1650. Very few Europeans migrated into New Spain, because the Spanish kept their borders closed to all non-Spanish Europeans.

    The census in 1793 in New Spain (Mexico) counted 4 million inhabitants in Mexico, which about the same population as the United States on the 1790 census.

    While the US had the same population people in 1790 as Mexico, we had more Europeans and more Blacks. The US had 3.2 million Whites and 750,00 Blacks in 1790. Mexico had 8,000 Europeans (all Spanish) and 500,000 Black and Mulattoes and 1 million Mestizos and 2 million Indians.

    It is quite stunning how fast the Mexican population became homogenized. For people of African roots— 250,000 slaves were imported into Mexico yet slavery gradually withered away. By the beginning of the eighteenth-century, cheap labor was too abundant for slavery to compete. Then, too, slaves helped destroy slavery, by fleeing, extracting concessions, taking advantage of church law, and forming communities of free people called mulatos or pardos. Afro-Mexicans with conscious identities based on kinship numbered more than one-half million by 1810 and constituted the largest group of free blacks in the Western hemisphere.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Travis

    The second president of Mexico in the 1820s was fairly black and he abolished slavery.

  63. @Anon
    @Travis

    Wow dude, you're frickin' ignorant and have totally misinterpreted your statistics.


    24% of black men aren't married to a non-black spouse. I'm not even sure 24% of black men are married. Last I checked, less than 50% of black men are married. Your statistics are about the minority of black men who DO get married.


    Most YOUNG people aren't married. It's not the mid-20th century anymore. Your statistics don't tell us squat about any ethnicity. I guarantee you there are way more white men in interracial relationships than 11%.


    There is no evidence that blacks are becoming less black. If anything, Steve's data in this post indicates they are becoming blacker, just as Hispanics are becoming more Amerindian. Previous studies on black adults reported 20-25% European ancestry in blacks. This more recent study reports 18%.

    Replies: @Travis

    These statistics came from Pew Research and concern newlyweds.According to Pew 24% of Black male newlyweds have a Non-Black Spouse and 12% of Black females newlyweds married a Non-Black husband. Yet only about 5% of Whites are married to a Black spouse.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2017/05/18/1-trends-and-patterns-in-intermarriage/pst_2017-05-15-intermarriage-01-09/

    The 2010 census calculated that 9% of Black men had a White wife and 5% had a Hispanic wife and 1% had an Asian wife. 15% of Married Black men had a Non-Black wife in 2010.

  64. @Anon
    Things I notice:

    "Hispanics (green dots) average 60% European, 28% Amerindian, and 10% African genetic ancestry."

    Mexico was originally a country of almost 100% Amerindians plus a few Spaniard immigrants. Yet 60% of Hispanic genes today are European. They ought to be something like 95% Amerindian plus 5% European. But they're not. The results are plain.

    Mexico has been gradually turning into a genetically European country over the last 500 years. Amerindian genes are being weeded out and population replacement is taking place. This is supposed to be the sort of thing that doesn't happen very much from what we know of genes and population statistics. Anthropologists say underlying ancestral genes tend to predominate long-term. Yet Mexico's native American genes are vanishing.

    People say Indo-European genes spread throughout Europe by Indo males killing off other non-Indo males. I don't think so. I think they just outbred other gene lines because they were smarter and more successful, and what's more, so did the Indo females.

    The fact that the average Mexican is no longer living like someone in Mongolia isn't usually ascribed to their growing percentage of European genes, but it probably ought to be. I strongly suspect that within 6 generations, Hispanics who immigrated to the U.S. in the 1980s will have descendants with almost no Amerindian genes anymore. They'll be more like Mediterranean whites.

    However, the statistics on blacks are also interesting. It's clear that a black/white half-breed person normally can only find a mostly or all-black person to mate with, so that the white percentage of genes inside blacks stays low for generation after generation, despite the fact that blacks have lived long-term alongside whites for 500 years. So if you decide to have a kid with a black person, your kids are highly likely to marry black instead of white. Whites consider half-bred blacks to be pariahs.

    However, both studies make it plain that for real brains, you'd better be 100% white. Those white genes have an additive effect when it comes to IQ.

    Replies: @Ralph L, @Anon, @Travis, @Flip

    Mexico was originally a country of almost 100% Amerindians plus a few Spaniard immigrants. Yet 60% of Hispanic genes today are European. They ought to be something like 95% Amerindian plus 5% European. But they’re not. The results are plain.

    Many of the early Indian women chose or were forced to breed with Spanish men instead of their own men, so that caused those results.

  65. @Travis
    @anon

    Whites in America are becoming less White each generation, but due to the flight from White , most Americans who are 10% Non-White will identify as non-White so those who identify was White will still be very White and even those who are mostly White will identify as Non-White.

    12% of African-Americans have a white parent today. Yet 100% of Whites have two White Parents. So Blacks are becoming genetically less Black. Back in 1980 only 4% of Blacks had a White parent. So three times as many Blacks today have a White Parent compared to the 1980s.

    20% of Black newlyweds have a Non-Black spouse. Just 11% of White newlyweds have a non-white spouse. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2017/05/18/1-trends-and-patterns-in-intermarriage/pst_2017-05-15-intermarriage-01-09/

    24% of Black male newlyweds have a Non-Black Spouse
    21% of Asian male newlyweds have a non-Asian Spouse
    12% of White males newlyweds have a non-white spouse

    Based on marriage and mating patterns it appears that Blacks are becoming less Black. But even Blacks who have 3 White Grandparents will continue to identify as Black. So Whites will remain mostly White, since those who are more than 10% N0n-WHite will not identify as White. For example, the Grandchildren of Jeb Bush will not identify as White, even though 3 of their grandparents are White. The Children of Ted Crux still be counted as Non-White.

    Replies: @Anon, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @epebble

    The children of Ted Cruz still qualify for affirmative action because they have a Cuban Grandfather. The Grandkids of Jeb Bush are counted as Hispanic and will get affirmative action benefits.

    It will be interesting in a few years when 60% of American High School Grads will qualify for affirmative action. Will Americans start to lose affirmative action benefits when 7 of their 8 great grandparents are White ? Will the great-grandchildren of Ted Cruz still be counted as Hispanic ?

    Today half of the African-American students at Harvard have a white parent, and most of their Hispanic students are White Hispanics like Ted Cruz, but few seem to notice or care.

    • Replies: @PaceLaw
    @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    “Today half of the African-American students at Harvard have a white parent . . . “

    Seriously??? If so, wow! That’s a crazy stat. If it’s true, it definitely does say something about the level of intelligence/IQ and background that’s required of schools like Harvard.

  66. @Travis
    @Anon

    The demographic changes observed in Mexico are fascinating

    They imported 250,000 African Slaves and just 20,000 Spaniards settled in New Spain prior to 1650. Among Europeans and Africans the shortage of females insured much interbreeding, if not intermarriage, with Amerindians. The Spanish population of Mexico peaked at 12,000 around the year 1650. Very few Europeans migrated into New Spain, because the Spanish kept their borders closed to all non-Spanish Europeans.

    The census in 1793 in New Spain (Mexico) counted 4 million inhabitants in Mexico, which about the same population as the United States on the 1790 census.

    While the US had the same population people in 1790 as Mexico, we had more Europeans and more Blacks. The US had 3.2 million Whites and 750,00 Blacks in 1790. Mexico had 8,000 Europeans (all Spanish) and 500,000 Black and Mulattoes and 1 million Mestizos and 2 million Indians.

    It is quite stunning how fast the Mexican population became homogenized. For people of African roots— 250,000 slaves were imported into Mexico yet slavery gradually withered away. By the beginning of the eighteenth-century, cheap labor was too abundant for slavery to compete. Then, too, slaves helped destroy slavery, by fleeing, extracting concessions, taking advantage of church law, and forming communities of free people called mulatos or pardos. Afro-Mexicans with conscious identities based on kinship numbered more than one-half million by 1810 and constituted the largest group of free blacks in the Western hemisphere.
    https://users.pop.umn.edu/~rmccaa/mxpoprev/img002.gif

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    The second president of Mexico in the 1820s was fairly black and he abolished slavery.

  67. Well, since race is again a topic here, you have to wonder how many of these Midshipmen are black. Something tells me pretty much 90-100% of them since a large majority came from varsity sports (i.e., football and basketball).

    https://www.baltimoresun.com/education/ac-cn-naval-academy-physics-expulsion-20210820-at6rnqe53zditky6n5c4jckeu4-story.html

  68. @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @Travis

    The children of Ted Cruz still qualify for affirmative action because they have a Cuban Grandfather. The Grandkids of Jeb Bush are counted as Hispanic and will get affirmative action benefits.

    It will be interesting in a few years when 60% of American High School Grads will qualify for affirmative action. Will Americans start to lose affirmative action benefits when 7 of their 8 great grandparents are White ? Will the great-grandchildren of Ted Cruz still be counted as Hispanic ?

    Today half of the African-American students at Harvard have a white parent, and most of their Hispanic students are White Hispanics like Ted Cruz, but few seem to notice or care.

    Replies: @PaceLaw

    “Today half of the African-American students at Harvard have a white parent . . . “

    Seriously??? If so, wow! That’s a crazy stat. If it’s true, it definitely does say something about the level of intelligence/IQ and background that’s required of schools like Harvard.

  69. I wonder where Emmett Till would be on the chart. Oh wait, he wouldn’t sit for IQ tests cuz he to0 busy whistling at the white women.

  70. @Travis
    @anon

    Whites in America are becoming less White each generation, but due to the flight from White , most Americans who are 10% Non-White will identify as non-White so those who identify was White will still be very White and even those who are mostly White will identify as Non-White.

    12% of African-Americans have a white parent today. Yet 100% of Whites have two White Parents. So Blacks are becoming genetically less Black. Back in 1980 only 4% of Blacks had a White parent. So three times as many Blacks today have a White Parent compared to the 1980s.

    20% of Black newlyweds have a Non-Black spouse. Just 11% of White newlyweds have a non-white spouse. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2017/05/18/1-trends-and-patterns-in-intermarriage/pst_2017-05-15-intermarriage-01-09/

    24% of Black male newlyweds have a Non-Black Spouse
    21% of Asian male newlyweds have a non-Asian Spouse
    12% of White males newlyweds have a non-white spouse

    Based on marriage and mating patterns it appears that Blacks are becoming less Black. But even Blacks who have 3 White Grandparents will continue to identify as Black. So Whites will remain mostly White, since those who are more than 10% N0n-WHite will not identify as White. For example, the Grandchildren of Jeb Bush will not identify as White, even though 3 of their grandparents are White. The Children of Ted Crux still be counted as Non-White.

    Replies: @Anon, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @epebble

    most Americans who are 10% Non-White will identify as non-White

    Do you have any research that backs this up?

    A large fraction of White – Non-White Americans is White – Asian, who don’t reflexively run away from White. In fact, it is advantageous sometimes to identify as White instead of Asian.

  71. @Anon
    @slumber_j

    Is there any data on the standardized test scores of these high-performing Nigerians? I've never seen any. For some reason, I suspect that if they were acing SATs and GREs left and right, I'd have heard about it by now. All the coverage I've seen of this phenomenon focuses on the number of college and graduate degrees they earn. That said, something's clearly going on there that deserves more analysis.

    Replies: @epebble

    https://www.blackentrepreneurprofile.com/collections/black-fortune-500-ceos

    gives a list of Black CEOs. Jide J. Zeitlin, Born: c. 1964, Ibadan, Nigeria was the Chairman and CEO of Tapestry, Inc.

    In July 2020, Tapestry CEO Jide Zeitlin resigned from his positions as CEO and chairman amidst an investigation into his personal behavior. Previously, a woman had accused him of luring her into a romantic relationship in 2007 by pretending to be a photographer.

  72. Ugh, such stubborn stupidity.

    The vast majority of black men are not married, dummy. These statistics are of the few black men who did get married. What you are looking at is a niche population of black men. The 2010 census calculated nothing of the sort.

  73. The salient fact that doesn’t show up here is that across all races, people in the US are getting dumber–genetically dumber.

    Blacks–blacks born to black women–are getting much dumber. A really steep fertility gradient. This is offset by BM-WF matings that add blacks with white genes. (These women in general won’t be the highest quality, and certainly aren’t “wise”, but they aren’t necessarily “dumb” in the genetic sense.)

    Whites are getting dumber. Fertility wise not as bad as blacks, but still the genetically “dumbs” are outsmarting and outbreeding the gentically “smarts”.

    Same story for Hispanics. And probably for Asians. And Asians have even lower fertility than whites.

    Back in the before time WASPs progressives understood that the fertility drop of middle class people than accompanied industrialization and the increased survival of “not brights” due to industrialization, medicine, etc. needed to be offset by eugenics.

    But post-War the Jewish “progressives”–i.e. minoritarians–endless propagandized eugenics and generally thinking about population quality as “Hitler, Hitler, Hitler!”

    But as with all their other minoritarian lies … the truth is still the truth:

    Whom you share your nation with really matters. In fact, nothing matters more for the long term survival and flourishing of your people.

  74. >And children who identify as white and are very close to 100% white seem to score slightly lower on the tests than whites who are a few percent nonwhite by ancestry.

    No, those are the non-whites with 100+ averages, Asians and Indians in this dataset.

  75. From Sailer’s article:

    the Other group is largely children whose parent identified them as non-Hispanic and both black and white. They average 62% European, 32% African, and 4% Amerindian genetic ancestry………Interestingly, the highest single scorer on this intensive set of cognitive tests was a self-identified Other of just over 50% European ancestry.

    Africans of 100% black ancestry in the U.S. tend to be somewhat smarter than less purely black people of African-descent………And children who identify as white and are very close to 100% white seem to score slightly lower on the tests than whites who are a few percent nonwhite by ancestry.

    The future of the Atlantic Rim looks bright to me.

    Atlantic Rim = West Coast of Africa + East Coast of the American Continent + Caribbean Islands.

  76. A view from a corner in a Southern bbq joint. It’s an upscale bbq joint. The house wings were 15 bucks. The peach tea 5.
    Sitting immediately to my right is I’m sure a very smart family of 4.

    [MORE]

    They’re injuns but i don’t know my injuns so i don’t knows what kind. They’re very young children are handsome. The little girl sitting next to me is kicking the rail our feet rest on. Yeh it’s annoying but she’s bored. Cute girl. I’m sure dad has them both coding already. I bet malla could look at this family from a1000ft and tell you wheretheir ancestors originated in India or the world. Malla you’re like some kinda of serious scholar. Way to smart for me to know and I’m to lazy to Google. That was about 60\$worth of BBQ they had so he is prolly doing ok. I wouldn’t say his late 20s early 30s wife is all that to look at but she looks smart and her kids are good looking mutts. I can’t understand any word they’ve said since I’ve been here. Some kinda injun talk. No doubt talking about me. Sneaky bastards.
    The gentleman to me immediate left, a young aspiring rapper in guessing who is no doubt an honors student started with the Johnny cakes and they’re 8 bucks and then he moved onto the sampler and let me tell ya that’s alot of pig. Menu says it feeds 4. Cost 36 bucks. He’s worked steadily through it. He killed those Johnny cakes in like…2 minutes.
    2 very young ladies at the far end of the bar are both Asian. I don’t know my Asians either but one is a really dark Asian and goddamn is she ever fucking hot. The one next to her is tall and thiccish and light dark and she’s definitely attractive and i would guess(and I’m sure be correct)she is some part White. They are at least 21 sipping those 8\$ drinks. I doubt either are 22.
    Seated directly behind me is, i assume, a family. A rather large @jogger.com sits looking hugely satisfied with those candied pork bellies and collard greens(i would’ve recommended them) 22\$by the by. Next to him I’m guessing is the fam squeeze box. She’s even bigger than him. Haven’t seen her arse but i bet it’s huge. Just like he likes no doubt. Good for him. She’s whiter than my arse. Both have wedding rings on. He, of a hue blacker than coal, damn near blue really, I’m guessing is the sire of the 2 towheaded raggamuffins that are obviously of a mixed blood. Also at the same table stirs a man(White) that could pass for a lumber jack and some what obviously next to him is i would think his beloved. She is obviously mixed. And rather large. Thad must be her sister next to her. Also mixed and just a slightly younger version.
    2 tables down is a White man with a mostly white/greying beard. He’s prolly early 40s. He is with a young incredible talent that i have no idea knows how to boss up and get shit done. She looks kinda young. Way way younger than him. I don’t recall ever seeing a shade of red that she has her hair died but it matches her skin tone. She’s a very light completed caramel chile o gawd. Eh she ain’t no bad thing to look at. I’m damn near going fucking crazy with my near irresistible urge to touch her hair but…
    I think I’ll have the all-American peanut butter pie before they remake it…maybe I’ll have BLACK berry cobbler instead.
    And where i live is 83% to the good y’all. At least for now.
    To wit, enjoy Southern BBQ while you can.

  77. And after injun mom whipped out the playof plastic and paid she handed the whole fam masks and they have been obediently sitting with their masks on while mom gets caught up on talking injun on her iphone.
    And so it goes.
    I wonder what she’s saying? Talking about us i bet. Lol at odd behaviors we White folk considers normal. Likehaving to touch black women’s hair and sech…

  78. @Anon
    @Waylon Sisko


    white” is okay to mention, if only to criticize it as in “white privilege
     
    Actually, this paper proves that the left is correct: white privilege is real.

    In all seriousness, it seems like including Asians would complicate things, because it would reduce the degree to which %white ancestry is correlated with g.

    Replies: @Waylon Sisko

    I think the realistic view is that ethnic groups have differences that aren’t necessarily better or worse in all possible contexts, but at any rate the word “privilege” should be avoided at all costs. The word implies that the system has been deliberately gamed to benefit one group over another, and that’s presumptuous at best and slanderous at worst.

    Their argument is this: disparate impacts are sufficient proof of inherent, systemtic bias — never mind their inability to prove it, you must accept the claim as fact — and this built-in bias benefits groups of privilege.

    I personally insist that they prove their preposterous theory, and I refuse to accept their terms and terminology until they do.

    • Replies: @Peter Johnson
    @Waylon Sisko

    A very sensible and well formulated view.

    Replies: @Waylon Sisko

  79. @S. Anonyia
    @Ralph L

    King George’s wife wasn’t black or part-black. She was almost 100 % German.

    Mixing with blacks among American whites didn’t take place in Europe, but mainly through white men + mixed race women in the Deep South in the 1700s. The color line didn’t get that strict until there was an increase in slave uprisings and news of the Haitian massacres spread. Ironically, the white Haitian refugees who arrived in the late 1700s/early 1800s and brought these tales were usually not totally white themselves, and likely had ethnic breakdowns more like modern-day Brazilian whites, but with French instead of Portuguese.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Truth

  80. @Waylon Sisko
    @Anon

    I think the realistic view is that ethnic groups have differences that aren't necessarily better or worse in all possible contexts, but at any rate the word "privilege" should be avoided at all costs. The word implies that the system has been deliberately gamed to benefit one group over another, and that's presumptuous at best and slanderous at worst.

    Their argument is this: disparate impacts are sufficient proof of inherent, systemtic bias -- never mind their inability to prove it, you must accept the claim as fact -- and this built-in bias benefits groups of privilege.

    I personally insist that they prove their preposterous theory, and I refuse to accept their terms and terminology until they do.

    Replies: @Peter Johnson

    A very sensible and well formulated view.

    • Replies: @Waylon Sisko
    @Peter Johnson

    Thanks, very much appreciated!

  81. @Cosmohicks
    Is there even a hypothesis accounting for the data from the religiously taboo-encrusted mainstream? I'm thinking about people I've actually respected--Nassim Taleb seems smugly dumb, Hitchens seems dead, Steven Pinker came up with astounding new copes for opponents of race realism in "Better Angels of our Nature" (humans are so violence-variable, any race could be from 89.1 FM to 107.9 at any time!) and no one even noticed? An amazing book, but again--never saw a peep even trying to re-purpose this into convincing you human races just on different wavelengths, so we need more integration and busing, even though it was ideal for it--almost like humans don't read or think and actual arguments not even worth it. War Nerd seems science-averse, and never mentions it. Andrew Sullivan sent into exile to actually make money, at Substack, cuz he couldn't be bothered to say 'that's definitely wrong'.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @obwandiyag, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia

    I’m thinking about people I’ve actually respected–Nassim Taleb seems smugly dumb,

    Nassim is getting to be even MORE of a crank that he was when he wrote The Black Swan, but when it comes to IQ and racial disparities, he’s fooled by assuming the graphs Steve posted are fooling Steve and others BY what appears to be random noisy uncorrelated data…but the dots at the bottom of the G horizontal axis are very very VERY bad dots.

    Nassim’s being fooled by the fundamental principle that when it comes to race, variability between groups isn’t great, but variability WITHIN groups is telling. So, yeah, we got a whole bunch of 100 IQ people in white and black cohorts, but the fact is if you tell a yo’ mama joke to a white 80 IQ person, they will likely just look at you in perplexity.

    Do that to a young black make with such an IQ, make sure you’ve strapped on your Kevlar vest beforehand. Fortunately, he’ll likely hold the pistol incorrectly and hit an non-Kevlared bystander instead.

    The moral? Don’t be fooled.

  82. @Peter Johnson
    @Waylon Sisko

    A very sensible and well formulated view.

    Replies: @Waylon Sisko

    Thanks, very much appreciated!

  83. @Reg Cæsar

    Genetic Ancestry
     
    Is there another kind?

    and General Cognitive Ability
     
    Steve is 16 years younger than Biden. Still...

    Replies: @Chuck, @Bill Jones

    Genetic Ancestry . Is there another kind?

    Sure, Anecdotal ancestry. “My great grandfather, the slave who invented electricity before Edison stole it off him…”

    Coming to a school near you.

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