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Homicide statistics in St. Louis, next door to Ferguson, MO, were perhaps the first fairly big city to reflect the Ferguson Effect of rising homicide numbers in the First BLM Era. If you stare closely at this graph of homicides in the city of St. Louis, you can that homicides were notably more frequent from late 2014 through spring of 2020 than in the half decade before BLM debuted at Ferguson (August 2014).

But in St. Louis, the Ferguson Effect is dwarfed by the Floyd Effect in June (33 homicides) and July (54) of 2020.

Here are annual homicides in the city of St. Louis

2011 115

2012 113

2013 120

2014 (Ferguson 8/2014) 159

2016 188

2017 205

2018 186

2019 194

2020 (so far) 160

From St. Louis Today:

Feds launch St. Louis anti-crime initiative as homicide rate climbs

Robert Patrick , Rachel Rice Aug 7, 2020

ST. LOUIS — A controversial federal initiative targeting violent crime will bring 50 federal investigators and a $1 million grant to St. Louis, U.S. Attorney Jeff Jensen said Thursday.

Jimmie Edwards, St. Louis public safety director, said he sought federal help after a surge in homicides and other shootings in St. Louis in the last two months. Edwards said there were 32 homicides in June and 53 in July, and an understaffed police department had a backlog of suspects being sought for those crimes, including 20 homicide suspects and several dozen more being pursued for crimes “just as heinous,” he said.

“Violent crime in St. Louis is intolerable lately,” Jensen said at a news conference Thursday. Jensen said that the federal investigators will be supplemented by Missouri Highway Patrol staffers, and Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt will lend two prosecutors to handle cases.

Jensen said Operation Legend will target violent offenders, gangs, so-called “active shooters” and fugitives. There will also be additional resources to respond to shooting scenes.

He declined to say how long the program will last, saying he didn’t want people to wait out the enhanced federal presence.

Responding to criticism of the program elsewhere, Jensen said the investigators will not be protecting federal property or responding to protests. Operation Legend is not “protection of federal buildings, protection of federal properties,” he said. “It’s not riot police. It’s not officers wearing fatigues. This is purely a violent crime effort. An effort to reduce the terrible murder rate we have seen lately.”

Critics have questioned the legality of the federal response to protests in Portland, Oregon, and said it led to more violence.

St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kimberly M. Gardner

Who is backed by George Soros’s money.

said in a statement that she is “concerned about bringing more federal agents to the City of St. Louis given their recent behavior in Portland, Oregon, where officers stopped people without probable cause and interrupted peaceful protesters without warning. My office will hold law enforcement agencies accountable if they violate the rights of people who live in our community.”

Jensen said the announcement was not related to Gardner’s victory in the Democratic primary Tuesday, which essentially guarantees her reelection in the heavily Democratic city. He said the plan was in the works for some time. …

After the news conference, Parson, Krewson and other officials exited through the front doors of headquarters where no protesters were gathered and ducked into cars that sped away. Protesters ran into the street in front of police headquarters moments later and blocked traffic.

Protesters attempted to block another car they mistakenly thought was carrying Jensen, but minutes later a line of police officers on bicycles pushed protesters back to let the car pass.

St. Louis is one of eight cities where the operation has been announced.

The operation was first launched July 8 in Kansas City. Sometimes referred to as Operation LeGend, it was named in honor of 4-year-old LeGend Taliferro, who was fatally shot in June while asleep in his Kansas City home.

Officials announced July 22 it would be expanded to Chicago and Albuquerque. Cleveland, Detroit and Milwaukee were added to the list July 29. Memphis then was added along with St. Louis. …

Critics say that federal and state officials, including Parson and President Donald Trump, are trying to shift the public’s focus to violent crime instead of an economy devastated by the coronavirus pandemic and a series of failures to adequately contain the spread of the disease.

 
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  1. Anonymous[367] • Disclaimer says:

    Yes, murders are way up. No one cares. Not when it comes to overall numbers. Fewer people care about the country overall now.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Anonymous

    Deaths of blacks at hands of white police, riots against police brutality, police withdrawal, black on black homicide gets out of control, tough police tactics to save black lives authorised, political uproar over blacks being killed by police, riots. Rinse and repeat.


    https://newrepublic.com/article/141701/fire-last-time-detroit-stress-police-squad-terrorized-black-community
    Civil rights leaders “regard him as progressive,” the Free Press noted after his appointment. Nichols faced a daunting task. Robberies in the city had risen 67 percent in the previous two years. A staggering number of them—some 18,000 in 1970—took place on the street, and 85 resulted in murder. In one of his first orders of business, Nichols instructed his staff to conduct a thorough study of the available data and build a detailed profile of the “typical robbery.” They found that victims were most often “male, not young, nonwhite, and living in or near the neighborhood in which the robbery took place,” while criminals tended to be “young, nonwhite, and armed.” One of the most salient factors, for Nichols, involved the sheer brazenness of the crimes.

    In contrast to what one would believe, most robberies were not being carried out covertly. They occurred openly and in full view of other citizens and potential witnesses on the street. It was apparent that the criminal felt safe in carrying out his act in front of others. He obviously believed that large segments of the community were either so apathetic or intimidated that they would not interfere. His only concern then was to assure himself that there were no police in the area.
     
    Nichols planned to flood the streets with undercover cops disguised as drunks[...] Peterson ... achieved a certain notoriety in Detroit. [...] the tenth shooting death at which Peterson was present over a two-year period. He’d personally killed six men, all black, many unarmed, and wounded five others.
     

    Replies: @Prester John

    , @allahu akbar
    @Anonymous

    I think you're right about that.

    Lots of apathy out there.

  2. Unless the additional federal police are planning a stop and frisk campaign, targeting young black men (highly unlikely), I don’t see the point.

  3. • LOL: KenH
  4. St. Louis is one of eight cities where the operation has been announced.

    The operation was first launched July 8 in Kansas City. Sometimes referred to as Operation LeGend, it was named in honor of 4-year-old LeGend Taliferro, who was fatally shot in June while asleep in his Kansas City home.

    Officials announced July 22 it would be expanded to Chicago and Albuquerque. Cleveland, Detroit and Milwaukee were added to the list July 29. Memphis then was added along with St. Louis. …

    Albuquerque? What the heck’s going on there?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Neuday

    Albuquerque usually has a lot of crime problems. Oddly, El Paso down the Rio Grande is usually pretty calm (whereas Ciudad Juarez across the river is Mordor).

    Replies: @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @kimchilover, @Hereward the Woke, @njguy73, @Thatgirl, @Mike Zwick

    , @syonredux
    @Neuday

    In 2009, Albuquerque had a 12.47 homicide and non-negligent manslaughter rate (per 100,000). That's significantly higher than NYC (3.39 in 2009) and LA (7.01 in 2009).


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

    , @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @Neuday

    Maybe Walter White is still making blue meth and fighting the Mexican cartels

    , @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang
    @Neuday

    Native Americans are violence prone and have difficulty metabolizing alcohol. Their small numbers nationally mean it isn’t really on anyone’s radar, but in local contexts it is definitely noticeable.
    Per capita, some of the most dangerous places IN THE WORLD are high arctic/Eskimo fishing villages, and places like the Dakota reservations aren’t far behind

    Replies: @donut

    , @Corvinus
    @Neuday

    "Albuquerque? What the heck’s going on there?"

    Way back in October 2019, the mayor there was requesting state help to prioritize crime fighting. To my knowledge, President Trump had no concept of the problems in that particular city. Then [wallah!], he sends in FBI agents in July 2020. What gives?


    KELLER: You know, I think this is the real challenge. I mean, we always welcome actual crime-fighting partnership. But instead of - I know the earlier speaker mentioned that this is supposed to be bread and butter. I think we're really worried about more of a bait and switch. And we've seen this from the administration before. And it's - that's what we hear on the front end. And then in the back end, this becomes sort of a secret police situation like Portland. And so we absolutely do not want that. And that's not real crime fighting. It's politics standing in the way of actual police work to make our cities less safe. And as a mayor, I mean, I've been given no formal details or any explanation of what these officers would actually do. And so of course we're very concerned in the absence of that...You know, we actually work with federal partners literally every day on all sorts of different task forces. And so certainly if it fits, you know, within our value set, we would do it. And that's pretty routine here. But what's not routine is the president actually talking about it. And so I think in this context, that makes it even more suspect.
     
    Let us do some further NOTICING. Despite having almost exactly the same number of residents as Portland, Oklahoma City had a violent crime rate 67% higher and a murder rate more than double that of Portland, according to the most recent complete FBI statistics from 2018. What about Tulsa, Oklahoma, recent site of Trump's campaign rally? In that same year, Tulsa's was double Portland's and its murder rate more than triple.

    One would think, therefore, that FBI agents would be sent to those cities. After all, President Trump is supposedly concerned about "law and order" (in an election year). So why are these two cities not receiving the "benefit" of mass infusions of federal law enforcement? Could it be that those two cities are run by...Republican mayors?

  5. Critics have questioned the legality of the federal response to protests in Portland, Oregon, and said it led to more violence.

    As if that ever really mattered. AntiFA should be glad Janet Reno isn’t running DoJ these days.

  6. Even I know that the government accomplishes the exact opposite of what it purportedly sets out to do.

    It therefore follows that the murder rate will rise.

    The government sending in “agents” (IRS workers?) to defend USG buildings is like JFK sending military advisers to Vietnam.

    Actually, the only federal buildings that ought to be situated outside DC are post offices.

    • Disagree: Cloudbuster
    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Abolish_public_education

    "Actually, the only federal buildings that ought to be situated outside DC are post offices."

    One way to partially decentralize the fetid DC power system is to relocate the various agencies and departments across the country. That will require new or refurbished buildings. What remains in DC after the bureaucrat diaspora will be the indigenous blacks and media celebrities. Which should please the white progressive celebrities because they really like blacks.

  7. Declaration of insurrection when?

  8. Anonymous[306] • Disclaimer says:

    Reading the (somewhat overlong) Benjamin Wallace-Wells piece in The New Yorker about Minneapolis In Year Zero obliquely suggests their theatrical wokeness stems at least partly from “flyover country” insecurity. Don’t forget that upriver-region of the Midwest is chock-a-block with co-ethnics of the ones who used to fanatically status-strive against each other in the Old Country/2.5th Reich. They had a good news cycle till Portlandia swooped in with the vibe check.

  9. I am kind of surprised that the public safety director asked for help given the lack of support from the local district attorney. But I hope the extra money and manpower helps him to catch some of these violent criminals. I assume most of the shooters and their victims were black. I believe that black lives matter so I hope the St. Louis homicide rate drops down a lot and stays down. I hope that happens in all of the cities that will be part of the Operation Legend program.

    • Replies: @usNthem
    @notsaying

    My god, man! There’s no amount of your hopey, changy feelings that are going to make a difference - except maybe in your mind. black lives don’t matter - to anyone - including blacks. The only hope is their aim improves while shooting up the latest bbq, funeral or graduation.

  10. The plan is only “controversial” because it draws attention to the failure of democrats to maintain law and order in their cities. Wait, sorry, I forgot “law and order” is a dog whistle term.

    • Replies: @Jesse
    @Buffalo Joe

    It's not "Democrats" that are the problem. It's, uh, certain subsets, plus the mentally ill rejects of White society.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Buffalo Joe

  11. The Seattle City Council voted to cut the pay of senior police officers, and Seattle and Portland could lose 25% of their cops by year end because of retirements and disability claims.

    The libtards in these blue cities voted for their elected officials and now, as Mencken said, they’re going to get what they voted for good and hard.

    Pass the popcorn.

  12. @Anonymous
    Yes, murders are way up. No one cares. Not when it comes to overall numbers. Fewer people care about the country overall now.

    Replies: @Sean, @allahu akbar

    Deaths of blacks at hands of white police, riots against police brutality, police withdrawal, black on black homicide gets out of control, tough police tactics to save black lives authorised, political uproar over blacks being killed by police, riots. Rinse and repeat.

    https://newrepublic.com/article/141701/fire-last-time-detroit-stress-police-squad-terrorized-black-community
    Civil rights leaders “regard him as progressive,” the Free Press noted after his appointment. Nichols faced a daunting task. Robberies in the city had risen 67 percent in the previous two years. A staggering number of them—some 18,000 in 1970—took place on the street, and 85 resulted in murder. In one of his first orders of business, Nichols instructed his staff to conduct a thorough study of the available data and build a detailed profile of the “typical robbery.” They found that victims were most often “male, not young, nonwhite, and living in or near the neighborhood in which the robbery took place,” while criminals tended to be “young, nonwhite, and armed.” One of the most salient factors, for Nichols, involved the sheer brazenness of the crimes.

    In contrast to what one would believe, most robberies were not being carried out covertly. They occurred openly and in full view of other citizens and potential witnesses on the street. It was apparent that the criminal felt safe in carrying out his act in front of others. He obviously believed that large segments of the community were either so apathetic or intimidated that they would not interfere. His only concern then was to assure himself that there were no police in the area.

    Nichols planned to flood the streets with undercover cops disguised as drunks[…] Peterson … achieved a certain notoriety in Detroit. […] the tenth shooting death at which Peterson was present over a two-year period. He’d personally killed six men, all black, many unarmed, and wounded five others.

    • Agree: Johnny Rico
    • Replies: @Prester John
    @Sean

    Yep. Same old, same old. Strikes and gutters...blah, blah.

    Read Tocqueville's take on the Indians and the blacks. In the former case he all but predicts they will become extinct. In the latter case he predicts that even though blacks and whites are fundamentally incompatible (implying that they should NEVER have been brought to the New World in the first place), since the two races have become joined at the hip the net result is a wound that can never heal. In both cases he looks to be on target.

  13. Murders are up and murder is the most trustworthy crime statistic. What about other forms of anti-social behavior? Are rapes and assaults up? How about theft and home invasions?

    I would not be surprised if black behavior worsened across the board, from murder to poor customer service, from rapes to refusal to wash hands, even for medical personnel, and from assaults to running stop signs and from home invasions to cutting in front in line at the grocery store.

    After all, they’re entitled to all this and more. Because reparations.

    I certainly hope our negro friends decide now is the time to stop acting white or even as citizens, and assume the full mantle of useless, demanding and ungrateful brats so that SJW whites have reason and opportunity to comtemplate their future.

  14. Worth considering that the Ferguson effect did not involve the total capitulation of local government and police to the rioters. In fact the initial issue was Officer Wilson using deadly force to stop Michael Brown. The police did not abdicate during the ensuing riots but tried to protect lives and property and this mitigated the initial ‘Ferguson effect’.

    It was the subsequent ‘Freddie Grey and even more pronounced ‘Floyd effect’ wherein police stood down to avoid being made into scapegoats as in Baltimore or under the orders of local officials in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland, Chicago etc.that has emboldened the underclass to feel immune to police reprisals should they kill their enemies.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @unit472

    Also, Unit472, last time 'round there was no antifa violence in concert with the normal rioting. If you recall, early on, the cops were quite involved. That, and the subsequent doughnut-shopping, kept them from doing the regular police work that may have stopped a few murders by getting some criminals off the streets.

    As much as I see the evil in guys like George Soros, I don't think he's smart enough to plan this all out: Get lenient judges and/or prosecutors in place, instigate rioting for the cause of disbanding the police, cause the people to get so FED up with the lack of counteraction as to beg for the FEDS to come in, with the result of even more destruction of actual civil rights, causing the left to have something more to complain about and blame on Trump. Nah, he ain't THAT smart ... just lucky.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

  15. “a line of police officers on bicycles pushed protesters back..”

    These democrat cities really are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

    “Critics say that… President Donald Trump [is] trying to shift the public’s focus to violent crime instead of an economy devastated by the coronavirus pandemic and a series of failures to adequately contain the spread of the disease.”

    These democrat critics are also really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @Anon7


    “a line of police officers on bicycles pushed protesters back..”
     
    Well there's your problem right there. Bicycles--with their implications of ableist white male privilege--are redolent of sexist oppression and systemic racism. The solution is obvious: put cops on trikes. After you've disarmed them, of course. Maybe make them wear frilly pink dresses to demonstrate that they're down with transing.

    https://i.ibb.co/6yC1F7q/A-little-girl-smiling-while-riding-her-tricycle-in-her-neighborhood-It-s-summer-and-she-s-happy-to-b.jpg

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  16. Critics say that federal and state officials, including Parson and President Donald Trump, are trying to shift the public’s focus to violent crime instead of an economy devastated by the coronavirus pandemic and a series of failures to adequately contain the spread of the disease.

    By not shutting the borders fast enough. Can we talk about the meltdown these people had when Trump shut down travel from China? And most ‘centrist’ intellectuals were downplaying the virus after Trump’s efforts and were more focused on imaginary ‘stigma’ affecting Asians.

    The other aspect that is ignored is the difficulty in dealing with the virus during the early stages of the outbreak in NY due to it’s epicentre being the Orthodox community. (Who continued their anti-social ways by constantly ignoring social distancing efforts, even cutting the locks on public spaces.)

    • Agree: Ben tillman, Mr McKenna
  17. Ever play Harding Park? It look great on TV. Those cypresses make the scene. Nice to have prime time golf.

    • Agree: Barnard, danand
  18. @Buffalo Joe
    The plan is only "controversial" because it draws attention to the failure of democrats to maintain law and order in their cities. Wait, sorry, I forgot "law and order" is a dog whistle term.

    Replies: @Jesse

    It’s not “Democrats” that are the problem. It’s, uh, certain subsets, plus the mentally ill rejects of White society.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Jesse


    It’s not “Democrats” that are the problem. It’s, uh, certain subsets, plus the mentally ill rejects of White society.
     
    Um, other than corrupt and cynical geezers-- Bidens, Pelosis, Dodds, etc-- the only whites left in the party are the mentally-ill rejects.

    That they are given the keys to City Hall is very much part of the problem. You can't blame Portland, Seattle, or even Minneapolis on blacks.

    Replies: @Alexander Turok

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Jesse

    Jesse, you do know that democrats are the political party in power in these cities. Prosecute or don't prosecute. Arrest or don't arrest. Support the police, Defund the police. That's what I meant.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Jesse

  19. An interesting trend I have noticed in recent years is few people have animosity towards murderers. I notice if a child molester is in the news people rightfully leave comments filled with judgement, anger and calls for death. Yet when there is a story about murder you rarely see any comments against the murderer. In the rare case when you do someone will come to the killers defense “Don’t judge” they say.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @Jay Fink

    In the (admittedly rare) instance when the perp is white and the victim is black, the condemnations will fill page after page of comments. And no punishment could be too harsh for that perp--as well as his family and friends--all will agree.

  20. I really enjoyed the first season of the SHOWTIME series DEXTER before they made the title character into just another run-of-the-mill, hum-drum, brooding antihero protagonist. See, in the first season they took the premise of having the show’s central character be a serial killer-serial killer seriously, and so Dexter is fascinatingly horrific without ever crossing the line into charismatic- one wonderfully spine-chilling detail- his romantic relationship with a severely abused single-mother: she thinks him wonderful for not pressing her for sex until she can work through her trust issues with men, while he has no use for sex due to a lack of basic human affectation, and so their current relationship where she simply provides him cover against being seen as the aberrant weirdo he really is just fine.

    The one guy who sees through Dexter’s BS is Dokes, the black police sergeant who works in Dexter’s precinct (Dexter is blood splatter technician) and mercilessly bullies him on account of suspecting him to be sociopath he really is. Normally anyone who bullies the main character is de facto a heavy, but for me Dokes was always the show’s true hero, particularly as they did not over overembellish hm on account of PC-Dokes is basically a 107 IQ meathead with honor and exquisite emotional intelligence.

    Anyway, excuse my round-about way for getting to some breaking news Steve somehow missed, but the husband of anti-crime LA district attorney Lacey- whose honest face, middle-aged monogamy, and gallant defense of wife and home (these are just impressions, I have no other background on the real-life man) strikes me as a real-life Sgt. Dokes- has been charged with the political crime of waving a gun in self-defense at the favored brown/blackshirt paramilitary forces of one of our major political parties:

    • Replies: @Abe
    @Abe

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-08-04/district-attorney-jackie-lacey-husband-charges-gun-protesters

    , @Milo Minderbinder
    @Abe

    "Dexter" also chickened out by *SPOILERS*












    having Dexter's crazy British gf kill Doakes, rather than Dexter have to deal with Doakes discovering the truth.

  21. @Abe
    I really enjoyed the first season of the SHOWTIME series DEXTER before they made the title character into just another run-of-the-mill, hum-drum, brooding antihero protagonist. See, in the first season they took the premise of having the show’s central character be a serial killer-serial killer seriously, and so Dexter is fascinatingly horrific without ever crossing the line into charismatic- one wonderfully spine-chilling detail- his romantic relationship with a severely abused single-mother: she thinks him wonderful for not pressing her for sex until she can work through her trust issues with men, while he has no use for sex due to a lack of basic human affectation, and so their current relationship where she simply provides him cover against being seen as the aberrant weirdo he really is just fine.

    The one guy who sees through Dexter’s BS is Dokes, the black police sergeant who works in Dexter’s precinct (Dexter is blood splatter technician) and mercilessly bullies him on account of suspecting him to be sociopath he really is. Normally anyone who bullies the main character is de facto a heavy, but for me Dokes was always the show’s true hero, particularly as they did not over overembellish hm on account of PC-Dokes is basically a 107 IQ meathead with honor and exquisite emotional intelligence.

    Anyway, excuse my round-about way for getting to some breaking news Steve somehow missed, but the husband of anti-crime LA district attorney Lacey- whose honest face, middle-aged monogamy, and gallant defense of wife and home (these are just impressions, I have no other background on the real-life man) strikes me as a real-life Sgt. Dokes- has been charged with the political crime of waving a gun in self-defense at the favored brown/blackshirt paramilitary forces of one of our major political parties:

    Replies: @Abe, @Milo Minderbinder

  22. @notsaying
    I am kind of surprised that the public safety director asked for help given the lack of support from the local district attorney. But I hope the extra money and manpower helps him to catch some of these violent criminals. I assume most of the shooters and their victims were black. I believe that black lives matter so I hope the St. Louis homicide rate drops down a lot and stays down. I hope that happens in all of the cities that will be part of the Operation Legend program.

    Replies: @usNthem

    My god, man! There’s no amount of your hopey, changy feelings that are going to make a difference – except maybe in your mind. black lives don’t matter – to anyone – including blacks. The only hope is their aim improves while shooting up the latest bbq, funeral or graduation.

  23. We need to stop pussy-footing around and start walling off these Democrat enclaves.

    MAGA.

    • Replies: @Abe
    @AnotherDad


    We need to stop pussy-footing around and start walling off these Democrat enclaves.
     
    I’m a moderate and think any talk of separatism or 2 countries is crazy (mostly because given how heterodox and free-thinking white people are, chances are certain there’d be another political schism/Kulturkampf in 100 years, and so either we go through another bloody partition leading to an even smaller rump “Red America” then, or we learn the art of political suasion now and so avoid all that carnage plus get to keep the choicest slice of geostrategic real estate in the world).

    However, these developments have me reconsidering. Steve, this toxic combination of COVID plus BLM as not just lead to increased censorship and abridgment of free speech (the whole “silence is violence” paradigm literally has taken us past the compulsory belief/“don’t be the first to stop clapping” Stalinist event horizon), but we are in fact now also in Weimar/early years of the Reich territory with one of our major “democratic” political parties imposing authoritarian rule under the cloak of quasi-legitimist policy, such as instituting an almost total lockdown on normal commerce and social activity EXCEPT for the prima facie illegal rioting and acts of intimidation by its paramilitary (brownshirt) allies, abetting said illegal activity through distribution of state resources (e.g. providing municipal cement barriers for the purpose of better organizing Seattle CHOP), and legalistically intimidating, harassing, and maybe imprisoning anyone exercising self-defense rights against illegal paramilitary activity (gun-waving charges brought against St. Louis lawyer powercouple and now the LA DA’s husband). This is true tyranny. Where do we go from here?

    , @Mr McKenna
    @AnotherDad


    We need to stop pussy-footing around and start walling off these Democrat enclaves.
     
    For my part, I never really bought into the notion of Trump playing 4-D chess. But isn't his announcing executive orders to extend unemployment, eviction moratoriums, etc a spectacular end run around Democrat propaganda?

    They're threatening to take him to court, but what will be the optics of that? Dems standing in the way of assistance to the needy in the midst of a pandemic?

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-future-of-us-politics-poc-vs-zionist/#comment-4083341

    And directly to your point: conspicuously absent from the executive orders Trump signed is the ~1 Trillion the Dems had earmarked as "aid to states and cities" which of course were aimed at places like NY and Illinois, which they've trashed with their policies these past few decades.

    Not hard to imagine Pelosi, Schumer & Co frantically trying to figure a way out of this political dilemma this evening.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @Corvinus
    @AnotherDad

    "We need to stop pussy-footing around and start walling off these Democrat enclaves."

    No one is stopping you, Rambo.

  24. @Anonymous
    Yes, murders are way up. No one cares. Not when it comes to overall numbers. Fewer people care about the country overall now.

    Replies: @Sean, @allahu akbar

    I think you’re right about that.

    Lots of apathy out there.

  25. @Abe
    I really enjoyed the first season of the SHOWTIME series DEXTER before they made the title character into just another run-of-the-mill, hum-drum, brooding antihero protagonist. See, in the first season they took the premise of having the show’s central character be a serial killer-serial killer seriously, and so Dexter is fascinatingly horrific without ever crossing the line into charismatic- one wonderfully spine-chilling detail- his romantic relationship with a severely abused single-mother: she thinks him wonderful for not pressing her for sex until she can work through her trust issues with men, while he has no use for sex due to a lack of basic human affectation, and so their current relationship where she simply provides him cover against being seen as the aberrant weirdo he really is just fine.

    The one guy who sees through Dexter’s BS is Dokes, the black police sergeant who works in Dexter’s precinct (Dexter is blood splatter technician) and mercilessly bullies him on account of suspecting him to be sociopath he really is. Normally anyone who bullies the main character is de facto a heavy, but for me Dokes was always the show’s true hero, particularly as they did not over overembellish hm on account of PC-Dokes is basically a 107 IQ meathead with honor and exquisite emotional intelligence.

    Anyway, excuse my round-about way for getting to some breaking news Steve somehow missed, but the husband of anti-crime LA district attorney Lacey- whose honest face, middle-aged monogamy, and gallant defense of wife and home (these are just impressions, I have no other background on the real-life man) strikes me as a real-life Sgt. Dokes- has been charged with the political crime of waving a gun in self-defense at the favored brown/blackshirt paramilitary forces of one of our major political parties:

    Replies: @Abe, @Milo Minderbinder

    “Dexter” also chickened out by *SPOILERS*

    having Dexter’s crazy British gf kill Doakes, rather than Dexter have to deal with Doakes discovering the truth.

  26. You’ll never be done paying for that cotton.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @Rob McX

    Similarly: amortize the savings to the western world of 'cheap crap from china' against the total cost of covid--include the next pandemic or two while you're at it.

  27. @AnotherDad
    We need to stop pussy-footing around and start walling off these Democrat enclaves.

    MAGA.

    Replies: @Abe, @Mr McKenna, @Corvinus

    We need to stop pussy-footing around and start walling off these Democrat enclaves.

    I’m a moderate and think any talk of separatism or 2 countries is crazy (mostly because given how heterodox and free-thinking white people are, chances are certain there’d be another political schism/Kulturkampf in 100 years, and so either we go through another bloody partition leading to an even smaller rump “Red America” then, or we learn the art of political suasion now and so avoid all that carnage plus get to keep the choicest slice of geostrategic real estate in the world).

    However, these developments have me reconsidering. Steve, this toxic combination of COVID plus BLM as not just lead to increased censorship and abridgment of free speech (the whole “silence is violence” paradigm literally has taken us past the compulsory belief/“don’t be the first to stop clapping” Stalinist event horizon), but we are in fact now also in Weimar/early years of the Reich territory with one of our major “democratic” political parties imposing authoritarian rule under the cloak of quasi-legitimist policy, such as instituting an almost total lockdown on normal commerce and social activity EXCEPT for the prima facie illegal rioting and acts of intimidation by its paramilitary (brownshirt) allies, abetting said illegal activity through distribution of state resources (e.g. providing municipal cement barriers for the purpose of better organizing Seattle CHOP), and legalistically intimidating, harassing, and maybe imprisoning anyone exercising self-defense rights against illegal paramilitary activity (gun-waving charges brought against St. Louis lawyer powercouple and now the LA DA’s husband). This is true tyranny. Where do we go from here?

    • Agree: BenKenobi
  28. @Neuday

    St. Louis is one of eight cities where the operation has been announced.

    The operation was first launched July 8 in Kansas City. Sometimes referred to as Operation LeGend, it was named in honor of 4-year-old LeGend Taliferro, who was fatally shot in June while asleep in his Kansas City home.

    Officials announced July 22 it would be expanded to Chicago and Albuquerque. Cleveland, Detroit and Milwaukee were added to the list July 29. Memphis then was added along with St. Louis. …
     
    Albuquerque? What the heck's going on there?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @syonredux, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang, @Corvinus

    Albuquerque usually has a lot of crime problems. Oddly, El Paso down the Rio Grande is usually pretty calm (whereas Ciudad Juarez across the river is Mordor).

    • Replies: @Giancarlo M. Kumquat
    @Steve Sailer

    Vivian Vance,who played "Ethel" on the "I Love Lucy" show ,was born there.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    , @kimchilover
    @Steve Sailer

    I live in Texas and it's hard for me to wrap my brain around this fact. All the other crime in my state makes a certain sense to me, but El Paso's relative tranquility is a head scratcher. Crime in other border areas (like Brownsville, Loredo and Del Rio) have far worse reputations. On the other hand, I've spent a ton of time in peaceful and sparsely populated border areas in West Texas like Marfa, Alpine and Marathon...but they're also populated by more trust fund white hipsters and multi-generational family-owned farm/hunting areas than most people realize (Antonin Scalia died at the fancy shmancy Cibilo Creek Ranch, which is just a stone's throw from Marfa).

    Maybe El Paso's low-crime rate has to do with it's the strong military and federal presence? Or maybe it's their extremely high elevation relative to the rest of the big cities in Texas? Serious head-scratcher.

    At any rate, Ciudad Juarez is truly terrifying (but other border towns like Nuevo Laredo - across from Laredo...duh - and Matamoros - across from Brownsville are practically just as violent).

    All I know is that whatever El Paso is doing right, I refuse to attribute it to Robert "Beto" O'Rouke.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Mr McKenna, @CJ

    , @Hereward the Woke
    @Steve Sailer

    I get the impression Juarez is noticeably better than it was a decade or so ago. Of course it’s still extremely violent by American standards, but it looks less like a literal war zone.

    , @njguy73
    @Steve Sailer

    Crime in Albuquerque.

    Someone should make a TV show about it.🙄

    , @Thatgirl
    @Steve Sailer

    A friend from there in college told me El Paso had lots of naturally occurring lithium in the water supply.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/montrealgazette.com/technology/science/the-right-chemistry-marketers-cashed-in-on-lithiated-water/wcm/f5940a31-750b-4fb6-b65e-64d23918eef3/amp/

    , @Mike Zwick
    @Steve Sailer

    My grandpa mentioned a couple of times that, in his youth, he visited Albuquerque when it was a small town. That would have been about a hundred years ago, 1919-1925.

  29. @Steve Sailer
    @Neuday

    Albuquerque usually has a lot of crime problems. Oddly, El Paso down the Rio Grande is usually pretty calm (whereas Ciudad Juarez across the river is Mordor).

    Replies: @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @kimchilover, @Hereward the Woke, @njguy73, @Thatgirl, @Mike Zwick

    Vivian Vance,who played “Ethel” on the “I Love Lucy” show ,was born there.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Giancarlo M. Kumquat

    The city's main claim to fame is the cartoon that begins as Bugs Bunny pops his head out of a hole in the middle of nowhere, looks around and says "Musta taken a wrong turn back at Albuquerque."

    Replies: @anon, @Reg Cæsar

  30. @Neuday

    St. Louis is one of eight cities where the operation has been announced.

    The operation was first launched July 8 in Kansas City. Sometimes referred to as Operation LeGend, it was named in honor of 4-year-old LeGend Taliferro, who was fatally shot in June while asleep in his Kansas City home.

    Officials announced July 22 it would be expanded to Chicago and Albuquerque. Cleveland, Detroit and Milwaukee were added to the list July 29. Memphis then was added along with St. Louis. …
     
    Albuquerque? What the heck's going on there?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @syonredux, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang, @Corvinus

    In 2009, Albuquerque had a 12.47 homicide and non-negligent manslaughter rate (per 100,000). That’s significantly higher than NYC (3.39 in 2009) and LA (7.01 in 2009).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

  31. @Jesse
    @Buffalo Joe

    It's not "Democrats" that are the problem. It's, uh, certain subsets, plus the mentally ill rejects of White society.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Buffalo Joe

    It’s not “Democrats” that are the problem. It’s, uh, certain subsets, plus the mentally ill rejects of White society.

    Um, other than corrupt and cynical geezers– Bidens, Pelosis, Dodds, etc– the only whites left in the party are the mentally-ill rejects.

    That they are given the keys to City Hall is very much part of the problem. You can’t blame Portland, Seattle, or even Minneapolis on blacks.

    • Replies: @Alexander Turok
    @Reg Cæsar

    Whites in the Democratic party are smarter than the whites in the Republican party. (Still less smart overall due to the dominance among non-whites) See:

    https://alexanderturok.wordpress.com/2020/07/08/march-of-the-clevons/

    Of course, intelligence doesn't mean you can't also be crazy. Still, the rhetoric of this comment section should some pause to anyone hypothesizing Democrats have a monopoly on craziness. At least with the crazy woke stuff, it can help you get a job. The only reason people would believe in the anti-vax/pedo-ring nonsense is either insanity or psychopathy.

  32. @Jesse
    @Buffalo Joe

    It's not "Democrats" that are the problem. It's, uh, certain subsets, plus the mentally ill rejects of White society.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Buffalo Joe

    Jesse, you do know that democrats are the political party in power in these cities. Prosecute or don’t prosecute. Arrest or don’t arrest. Support the police, Defund the police. That’s what I meant.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @Buffalo Joe

    Joe, "Jesse" is our newest replicant. It fails the Voight-Kampff test. It is here to sow confusion and discord, and should be retired as soon as possible. Ignore the posts it makes, and move on.

    , @Jesse
    @Buffalo Joe

    I totally get it, but it just seems to be missing the point somewhat. If all those people suddenly voted GOP, it wouldn't really improve things. Especially with the Koch brothers trying desperately to cripple LE so they can be even bigger scumbags with impunity.

    Thank god Blacks won't ever shift. Can you imagine Conservatism Inc if their vote was legitimately up for grabs?

  33. @Neuday

    St. Louis is one of eight cities where the operation has been announced.

    The operation was first launched July 8 in Kansas City. Sometimes referred to as Operation LeGend, it was named in honor of 4-year-old LeGend Taliferro, who was fatally shot in June while asleep in his Kansas City home.

    Officials announced July 22 it would be expanded to Chicago and Albuquerque. Cleveland, Detroit and Milwaukee were added to the list July 29. Memphis then was added along with St. Louis. …
     
    Albuquerque? What the heck's going on there?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @syonredux, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang, @Corvinus

    Maybe Walter White is still making blue meth and fighting the Mexican cartels

  34. @Steve Sailer
    @Neuday

    Albuquerque usually has a lot of crime problems. Oddly, El Paso down the Rio Grande is usually pretty calm (whereas Ciudad Juarez across the river is Mordor).

    Replies: @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @kimchilover, @Hereward the Woke, @njguy73, @Thatgirl, @Mike Zwick

    I live in Texas and it’s hard for me to wrap my brain around this fact. All the other crime in my state makes a certain sense to me, but El Paso’s relative tranquility is a head scratcher. Crime in other border areas (like Brownsville, Loredo and Del Rio) have far worse reputations. On the other hand, I’ve spent a ton of time in peaceful and sparsely populated border areas in West Texas like Marfa, Alpine and Marathon…but they’re also populated by more trust fund white hipsters and multi-generational family-owned farm/hunting areas than most people realize (Antonin Scalia died at the fancy shmancy Cibilo Creek Ranch, which is just a stone’s throw from Marfa).

    Maybe El Paso’s low-crime rate has to do with it’s the strong military and federal presence? Or maybe it’s their extremely high elevation relative to the rest of the big cities in Texas? Serious head-scratcher.

    At any rate, Ciudad Juarez is truly terrifying (but other border towns like Nuevo Laredo – across from Laredo…duh – and Matamoros – across from Brownsville are practically just as violent).

    All I know is that whatever El Paso is doing right, I refuse to attribute it to Robert “Beto” O’Rouke.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @kimchilover

    Time Magazine published an article in 1971 theorizing that El Paso had a low crime rate due to the lithium in the water supply.

    Another guess is that a lot of the Mexican middle class of 1910 wound up in El Paso during the Mexican Revolution.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @kimchilover, @AceDeuce

    , @Mr McKenna
    @kimchilover

    Since roughly forever, El Paso has been used as a case study to demonstrate: 1) how poverty does not necessarily lead to crime and 2) why latinos are so much less crime-prone than blacks, even when poor, and 3) other stuff. I've never quite gotten to the bottom of it, but all of the theories are fascinating, including those here of altitude, lithium poisoning, middle-class expats, military connections and so on.

    Personally I think we should move the border 50 miles inward and just cede the territory. But of course that won't really fix anything, particularly starting next year when the borders are abolished.

    , @CJ
    @kimchilover

    Or maybe it’s their extremely high elevation relative to the rest of the big cities in Texas?

    Planes at Albuquerque’s airport are already a mile high before they get off the pavement. Much of the city is over 6,000 feet. Doesn’t seem to stop crime.

  35. Critics say that federal and state officials, including Parson and President Donald Trump, are trying to shift the public’s focus to violent crime instead of an economy devastated by the coronavirus pandemic and a series of failures to adequately contain the spread of the disease.

    They aren’t wrong. This is a country where nobody takes responsibility for anything. They aren’t taking responsibility for the crime wave their rhetoric is causing, you aren’t taking responsibility for the coronawave the rhetoric of your comment section is causing, which you refuse to even acknowledge let alone condemn.

    Translation: These atrocities: your fault! (Post-WWII American propaganda)

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @Alexander Turok


    the coronawave the rhetoric of your comment section is causing
     
    I wish my Unz posts could cause large swathes of goodthinkers to die in agony. Unfortunately, they're still beta-testing that tech.

    PS: You're a fag.

    Replies: @Alexander Turok

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Alexander Turok

    Sure - anyone who doesn't share your pant-wetting hysteria about coronavirus is now guilty of genocide.

    Say - how do you fit your plague mask over your big bulbous red clown nose anyway?

  36. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jesse


    It’s not “Democrats” that are the problem. It’s, uh, certain subsets, plus the mentally ill rejects of White society.
     
    Um, other than corrupt and cynical geezers-- Bidens, Pelosis, Dodds, etc-- the only whites left in the party are the mentally-ill rejects.

    That they are given the keys to City Hall is very much part of the problem. You can't blame Portland, Seattle, or even Minneapolis on blacks.

    Replies: @Alexander Turok

    Whites in the Democratic party are smarter than the whites in the Republican party. (Still less smart overall due to the dominance among non-whites) See:

    https://alexanderturok.wordpress.com/2020/07/08/march-of-the-clevons/

    Of course, intelligence doesn’t mean you can’t also be crazy. Still, the rhetoric of this comment section should some pause to anyone hypothesizing Democrats have a monopoly on craziness. At least with the crazy woke stuff, it can help you get a job. The only reason people would believe in the anti-vax/pedo-ring nonsense is either insanity or psychopathy.

  37. @Anon7
    “a line of police officers on bicycles pushed protesters back..”

    These democrat cities really are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

    “Critics say that... President Donald Trump [is] trying to shift the public’s focus to violent crime instead of an economy devastated by the coronavirus pandemic and a series of failures to adequately contain the spread of the disease.”

    These democrat critics are also really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

    “a line of police officers on bicycles pushed protesters back..”

    Well there’s your problem right there. Bicycles–with their implications of ableist white male privilege–are redolent of sexist oppression and systemic racism. The solution is obvious: put cops on trikes. After you’ve disarmed them, of course. Maybe make them wear frilly pink dresses to demonstrate that they’re down with transing.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Mr McKenna

    Mr. McKenna, when I was growing up in Buffalo, besides the beat cop walking the business street, we had cops who rode Harley three wheelers, but unlike today's trykes, the two wheels were in the back.

  38. @Jay Fink
    An interesting trend I have noticed in recent years is few people have animosity towards murderers. I notice if a child molester is in the news people rightfully leave comments filled with judgement, anger and calls for death. Yet when there is a story about murder you rarely see any comments against the murderer. In the rare case when you do someone will come to the killers defense "Don't judge" they say.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

    In the (admittedly rare) instance when the perp is white and the victim is black, the condemnations will fill page after page of comments. And no punishment could be too harsh for that perp–as well as his family and friends–all will agree.

    • Agree: Jay Fink, Lurker, AceDeuce
  39. @Steve Sailer
    @Neuday

    Albuquerque usually has a lot of crime problems. Oddly, El Paso down the Rio Grande is usually pretty calm (whereas Ciudad Juarez across the river is Mordor).

    Replies: @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @kimchilover, @Hereward the Woke, @njguy73, @Thatgirl, @Mike Zwick

    I get the impression Juarez is noticeably better than it was a decade or so ago. Of course it’s still extremely violent by American standards, but it looks less like a literal war zone.

  40. @AnotherDad
    We need to stop pussy-footing around and start walling off these Democrat enclaves.

    MAGA.

    Replies: @Abe, @Mr McKenna, @Corvinus

    We need to stop pussy-footing around and start walling off these Democrat enclaves.

    For my part, I never really bought into the notion of Trump playing 4-D chess. But isn’t his announcing executive orders to extend unemployment, eviction moratoriums, etc a spectacular end run around Democrat propaganda?

    They’re threatening to take him to court, but what will be the optics of that? Dems standing in the way of assistance to the needy in the midst of a pandemic?

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-future-of-us-politics-poc-vs-zionist/#comment-4083341

    And directly to your point: conspicuously absent from the executive orders Trump signed is the ~1 Trillion the Dems had earmarked as “aid to states and cities” which of course were aimed at places like NY and Illinois, which they’ve trashed with their policies these past few decades.

    Not hard to imagine Pelosi, Schumer & Co frantically trying to figure a way out of this political dilemma this evening.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Mr McKenna


    But isn’t his announcing executive orders to extend unemployment, eviction moratoriums, etc a spectacular end run around Democrat propaganda?
     
    He's also issued orders deferring payroll taxes for some. Well, that certainly worked for George H.W. Bush, who did that in 1992.

    A lot of those people who may get extended unemployement and not be evicted will still hate Trump and vote against him.
  41. @unit472
    Worth considering that the Ferguson effect did not involve the total capitulation of local government and police to the rioters. In fact the initial issue was Officer Wilson using deadly force to stop Michael Brown. The police did not abdicate during the ensuing riots but tried to protect lives and property and this mitigated the initial 'Ferguson effect'.

    It was the subsequent 'Freddie Grey and even more pronounced 'Floyd effect' wherein police stood down to avoid being made into scapegoats as in Baltimore or under the orders of local officials in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland, Chicago etc.that has emboldened the underclass to feel immune to police reprisals should they kill their enemies.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Also, Unit472, last time ’round there was no antifa violence in concert with the normal rioting. If you recall, early on, the cops were quite involved. That, and the subsequent doughnut-shopping, kept them from doing the regular police work that may have stopped a few murders by getting some criminals off the streets.

    As much as I see the evil in guys like George Soros, I don’t think he’s smart enough to plan this all out: Get lenient judges and/or prosecutors in place, instigate rioting for the cause of disbanding the police, cause the people to get so FED up with the lack of counteraction as to beg for the FEDS to come in, with the result of even more destruction of actual civil rights, causing the left to have something more to complain about and blame on Trump. Nah, he ain’t THAT smart … just lucky.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Achmed E. Newman

    "George Soros"

    Soros funded DAs adding to the bLM crime wave. Soros funded black lady leadership in academia, media, and state and local governments increasing the degradation of American society. Soros investments in hate-filled black ladies leading to the demise of the United States. A rogue anti-aircraft missile taking out a private jet over the Atlantic won't completely solve the problem but it will send a message.

  42. @kimchilover
    @Steve Sailer

    I live in Texas and it's hard for me to wrap my brain around this fact. All the other crime in my state makes a certain sense to me, but El Paso's relative tranquility is a head scratcher. Crime in other border areas (like Brownsville, Loredo and Del Rio) have far worse reputations. On the other hand, I've spent a ton of time in peaceful and sparsely populated border areas in West Texas like Marfa, Alpine and Marathon...but they're also populated by more trust fund white hipsters and multi-generational family-owned farm/hunting areas than most people realize (Antonin Scalia died at the fancy shmancy Cibilo Creek Ranch, which is just a stone's throw from Marfa).

    Maybe El Paso's low-crime rate has to do with it's the strong military and federal presence? Or maybe it's their extremely high elevation relative to the rest of the big cities in Texas? Serious head-scratcher.

    At any rate, Ciudad Juarez is truly terrifying (but other border towns like Nuevo Laredo - across from Laredo...duh - and Matamoros - across from Brownsville are practically just as violent).

    All I know is that whatever El Paso is doing right, I refuse to attribute it to Robert "Beto" O'Rouke.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Mr McKenna, @CJ

    Time Magazine published an article in 1971 theorizing that El Paso had a low crime rate due to the lithium in the water supply.

    Another guess is that a lot of the Mexican middle class of 1910 wound up in El Paso during the Mexican Revolution.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    Time Magazine published an article in 1971 theorizing that El Paso had a low crime rate due to the lithium in the water supply.
     
    Then Bolivia should be the safest place on earth. Potentially violent peons can be encouraged to pack that stuff up from their salt flats to ship to the other side of the world-- almost literally-- to make batteries in Shenzhen and Vietnam.

    From peons to felons:


    D.C. on the brink of allowing inmates to vote from prison

    So the Democrats can win by 90% rather than 80%.

    , @kimchilover
    @Steve Sailer

    Well, as I said in my previous post, I've spent quite a bit of time in West Texas, and my all-time favorite vacation spot in that neck-of-the-woods is the Chinati Hot Springs (be forewarned, you are REALLY off the grid when you visit this place):

    http://www.chinatihotsprings.net

    Said Hot Springs are absolutely lithium infused so that article may genuinely be on to something.

    , @AceDeuce
    @Steve Sailer

    El Paso is, or at least was, the auto theft capital of the U.S. They had a mayor-a female, as I recall. who had her car stolen from her home twice in a single year.

    Replies: @Jay Fink

  43. @Steve Sailer
    @kimchilover

    Time Magazine published an article in 1971 theorizing that El Paso had a low crime rate due to the lithium in the water supply.

    Another guess is that a lot of the Mexican middle class of 1910 wound up in El Paso during the Mexican Revolution.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @kimchilover, @AceDeuce

    Time Magazine published an article in 1971 theorizing that El Paso had a low crime rate due to the lithium in the water supply.

    Then Bolivia should be the safest place on earth. Potentially violent peons can be encouraged to pack that stuff up from their salt flats to ship to the other side of the world– almost literally— to make batteries in Shenzhen and Vietnam.

    From peons to felons:

    D.C. on the brink of allowing inmates to vote from prison

    So the Democrats can win by 90% rather than 80%.

  44. anon[935] • Disclaimer says:

    Why is the Trump Administration using our federal tax dollars to subsidize dysfunctional city governments run by Trump’s worst enemies, to reduce crime and hurt his November campaign?I’d like to know who in Justice decided to do this.

    Or is it a clever way to force anti-Trump civil servants in Justice HQ to have to go work in St. Louis and stop plotting how to frame up prosecutions for anyone connected with Trump?

  45. @Mr McKenna
    @Anon7


    “a line of police officers on bicycles pushed protesters back..”
     
    Well there's your problem right there. Bicycles--with their implications of ableist white male privilege--are redolent of sexist oppression and systemic racism. The solution is obvious: put cops on trikes. After you've disarmed them, of course. Maybe make them wear frilly pink dresses to demonstrate that they're down with transing.

    https://i.ibb.co/6yC1F7q/A-little-girl-smiling-while-riding-her-tricycle-in-her-neighborhood-It-s-summer-and-she-s-happy-to-b.jpg

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Mr. McKenna, when I was growing up in Buffalo, besides the beat cop walking the business street, we had cops who rode Harley three wheelers, but unlike today’s trykes, the two wheels were in the back.

  46. @Steve Sailer
    @Neuday

    Albuquerque usually has a lot of crime problems. Oddly, El Paso down the Rio Grande is usually pretty calm (whereas Ciudad Juarez across the river is Mordor).

    Replies: @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @kimchilover, @Hereward the Woke, @njguy73, @Thatgirl, @Mike Zwick

    Crime in Albuquerque.

    Someone should make a TV show about it.🙄

  47. @Steve Sailer
    @kimchilover

    Time Magazine published an article in 1971 theorizing that El Paso had a low crime rate due to the lithium in the water supply.

    Another guess is that a lot of the Mexican middle class of 1910 wound up in El Paso during the Mexican Revolution.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @kimchilover, @AceDeuce

    Well, as I said in my previous post, I’ve spent quite a bit of time in West Texas, and my all-time favorite vacation spot in that neck-of-the-woods is the Chinati Hot Springs (be forewarned, you are REALLY off the grid when you visit this place):

    http://www.chinatihotsprings.net

    Said Hot Springs are absolutely lithium infused so that article may genuinely be on to something.

  48. If that were a graph of temperature, you’d hear a lot more about it.

    • Agree: Rob McX
  49. @Rob McX
    You'll never be done paying for that cotton.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

    Similarly: amortize the savings to the western world of ‘cheap crap from china’ against the total cost of covid–include the next pandemic or two while you’re at it.

  50. @Giancarlo M. Kumquat
    @Steve Sailer

    Vivian Vance,who played "Ethel" on the "I Love Lucy" show ,was born there.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    The city’s main claim to fame is the cartoon that begins as Bugs Bunny pops his head out of a hole in the middle of nowhere, looks around and says “Musta taken a wrong turn back at Albuquerque.”

    • Replies: @anon
    @Known Fact

    The city’s main claim to fame

    "Walter White" disagrees.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Known Fact


    The city’s main claim to fame is the cartoon that begins as Bugs Bunny pops his head out of a hole in the middle of nowhere, looks around and says “Musta taken a wrong turn back at Albuquerque.”
     
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=38XsRcDmTFc

    Replies: @bruce county

  51. could be approaching the St Louis murder rate record this year. there will be over 200 murders in 2020, and the population is down to 318,000.

    previous record was 260 murders in 1991 when there were 396,000 residents.

    before that, 266 murders in 1970 when there were 622,000 residents.

  52. @Buffalo Joe
    @Jesse

    Jesse, you do know that democrats are the political party in power in these cities. Prosecute or don't prosecute. Arrest or don't arrest. Support the police, Defund the police. That's what I meant.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Jesse

    Joe, “Jesse” is our newest replicant. It fails the Voight-Kampff test. It is here to sow confusion and discord, and should be retired as soon as possible. Ignore the posts it makes, and move on.

    • Thanks: Buffalo Joe
  53. @Alexander Turok

    Critics say that federal and state officials, including Parson and President Donald Trump, are trying to shift the public’s focus to violent crime instead of an economy devastated by the coronavirus pandemic and a series of failures to adequately contain the spread of the disease.
     
    They aren't wrong. This is a country where nobody takes responsibility for anything. They aren't taking responsibility for the crime wave their rhetoric is causing, you aren't taking responsibility for the coronawave the rhetoric of your comment section is causing, which you refuse to even acknowledge let alone condemn.

    https://external-preview.redd.it/MUaBPRorA7kqzI5GXNrc5r-2zKh8im-qIcHl1Dzfjso.jpg?auto=webp&s=396c1b45f457842be4e7ca76cd4dfb62a33da803

    Translation: These atrocities: your fault! (Post-WWII American propaganda)

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon

    the coronawave the rhetoric of your comment section is causing

    I wish my Unz posts could cause large swathes of goodthinkers to die in agony. Unfortunately, they’re still beta-testing that tech.

    PS: You’re a fag.

    • Replies: @Alexander Turok
    @BenKenobi

    You irl:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCIo4MCO-_U

    Replies: @BenKenobi

  54. @kimchilover
    @Steve Sailer

    I live in Texas and it's hard for me to wrap my brain around this fact. All the other crime in my state makes a certain sense to me, but El Paso's relative tranquility is a head scratcher. Crime in other border areas (like Brownsville, Loredo and Del Rio) have far worse reputations. On the other hand, I've spent a ton of time in peaceful and sparsely populated border areas in West Texas like Marfa, Alpine and Marathon...but they're also populated by more trust fund white hipsters and multi-generational family-owned farm/hunting areas than most people realize (Antonin Scalia died at the fancy shmancy Cibilo Creek Ranch, which is just a stone's throw from Marfa).

    Maybe El Paso's low-crime rate has to do with it's the strong military and federal presence? Or maybe it's their extremely high elevation relative to the rest of the big cities in Texas? Serious head-scratcher.

    At any rate, Ciudad Juarez is truly terrifying (but other border towns like Nuevo Laredo - across from Laredo...duh - and Matamoros - across from Brownsville are practically just as violent).

    All I know is that whatever El Paso is doing right, I refuse to attribute it to Robert "Beto" O'Rouke.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Mr McKenna, @CJ

    Since roughly forever, El Paso has been used as a case study to demonstrate: 1) how poverty does not necessarily lead to crime and 2) why latinos are so much less crime-prone than blacks, even when poor, and 3) other stuff. I’ve never quite gotten to the bottom of it, but all of the theories are fascinating, including those here of altitude, lithium poisoning, middle-class expats, military connections and so on.

    Personally I think we should move the border 50 miles inward and just cede the territory. But of course that won’t really fix anything, particularly starting next year when the borders are abolished.

  55. Albuquerque, lived there for many years and both my sons still live there. Does not really seem a violent town and most murders are between Hispanic fellows. There are almost no blacks but if you drive through the city will see random blacks standing inexplicably on street corners. Some of the more heinous crimes are committed by them, such as the nice Chinese lady who was shot in the face in front of her 4 year old son and husband by a black moron attempting to steal a tip jar. This happened the day after I had lunch there.

    It’s really a small town in the middle of a vast desert so that may skew the statistics. Road rage is popular even though the traffic is not as bad as many other cities.

  56. @Buffalo Joe
    @Jesse

    Jesse, you do know that democrats are the political party in power in these cities. Prosecute or don't prosecute. Arrest or don't arrest. Support the police, Defund the police. That's what I meant.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Jesse

    I totally get it, but it just seems to be missing the point somewhat. If all those people suddenly voted GOP, it wouldn’t really improve things. Especially with the Koch brothers trying desperately to cripple LE so they can be even bigger scumbags with impunity.

    Thank god Blacks won’t ever shift. Can you imagine Conservatism Inc if their vote was legitimately up for grabs?

  57. @Neuday

    St. Louis is one of eight cities where the operation has been announced.

    The operation was first launched July 8 in Kansas City. Sometimes referred to as Operation LeGend, it was named in honor of 4-year-old LeGend Taliferro, who was fatally shot in June while asleep in his Kansas City home.

    Officials announced July 22 it would be expanded to Chicago and Albuquerque. Cleveland, Detroit and Milwaukee were added to the list July 29. Memphis then was added along with St. Louis. …
     
    Albuquerque? What the heck's going on there?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @syonredux, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang, @Corvinus

    Native Americans are violence prone and have difficulty metabolizing alcohol. Their small numbers nationally mean it isn’t really on anyone’s radar, but in local contexts it is definitely noticeable.
    Per capita, some of the most dangerous places IN THE WORLD are high arctic/Eskimo fishing villages, and places like the Dakota reservations aren’t far behind

    • Replies: @donut
    @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang

    I saw an episode of a reality show called "Reservation Police" or something similar . A couple of middle aged cops , a male and a female went out to apprehend two or three guys who were feuding with another group and fired a gun at them with no real intention of hitting anybody . So the plan is she's going to knock on the door and the male cop and camera crew are going to catch the bad guy as he flees out the back door . After a moment the male cop and camera crew hear a commotion inside the house . They rush to the front and burst in to find this middle aged female has the twenty something malefactor in handcuffs . Of course it's not Detroit , I got the impression that all the people involved at least vaguely knew one another and was a Navajo reservation . The guy in custody then took the two cops w/o any backup to arrest his two cousins who surrendered with no resistance .
    BTW IIRC the only time any of the cops drew a gun was the guy who had his gun out while he was waiting at the back door .

  58. @BenKenobi
    @Alexander Turok


    the coronawave the rhetoric of your comment section is causing
     
    I wish my Unz posts could cause large swathes of goodthinkers to die in agony. Unfortunately, they're still beta-testing that tech.

    PS: You're a fag.

    Replies: @Alexander Turok

    You irl:

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @Alexander Turok

    Yeah, I said that to you over a month ago to general applause, you insufferable clod.

    Stop posting. It's over for you.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/washington-post-ratcheting-up-to-1860-south-carolina-fire-eater-rhetoric/#comment-4014426

  59. Black St. Louis is on track to have a murder rate this year of in the 140s per 100k.

    The Federal officials are probably going to roll up a bunch of dunderhead blacks on felon-in-possession and easy to prosecute (and easy to plea out) Federal process crimes.

    • Agree: David In TN
  60. @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang
    @Neuday

    Native Americans are violence prone and have difficulty metabolizing alcohol. Their small numbers nationally mean it isn’t really on anyone’s radar, but in local contexts it is definitely noticeable.
    Per capita, some of the most dangerous places IN THE WORLD are high arctic/Eskimo fishing villages, and places like the Dakota reservations aren’t far behind

    Replies: @donut

    I saw an episode of a reality show called “Reservation Police” or something similar . A couple of middle aged cops , a male and a female went out to apprehend two or three guys who were feuding with another group and fired a gun at them with no real intention of hitting anybody . So the plan is she’s going to knock on the door and the male cop and camera crew are going to catch the bad guy as he flees out the back door . After a moment the male cop and camera crew hear a commotion inside the house . They rush to the front and burst in to find this middle aged female has the twenty something malefactor in handcuffs . Of course it’s not Detroit , I got the impression that all the people involved at least vaguely knew one another and was a Navajo reservation . The guy in custody then took the two cops w/o any backup to arrest his two cousins who surrendered with no resistance .
    BTW IIRC the only time any of the cops drew a gun was the guy who had his gun out while he was waiting at the back door .

  61. Why aren’t there riots in the countryside?

    • Thanks: The Wild Geese Howard
  62. @Abolish_public_education
    Even I know that the government accomplishes the exact opposite of what it purportedly sets out to do.

    It therefore follows that the murder rate will rise.

    The government sending in “agents” (IRS workers?) to defend USG buildings is like JFK sending military advisers to Vietnam.

    Actually, the only federal buildings that ought to be situated outside DC are post offices.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “Actually, the only federal buildings that ought to be situated outside DC are post offices.”

    One way to partially decentralize the fetid DC power system is to relocate the various agencies and departments across the country. That will require new or refurbished buildings. What remains in DC after the bureaucrat diaspora will be the indigenous blacks and media celebrities. Which should please the white progressive celebrities because they really like blacks.

  63. @Alexander Turok

    Critics say that federal and state officials, including Parson and President Donald Trump, are trying to shift the public’s focus to violent crime instead of an economy devastated by the coronavirus pandemic and a series of failures to adequately contain the spread of the disease.
     
    They aren't wrong. This is a country where nobody takes responsibility for anything. They aren't taking responsibility for the crime wave their rhetoric is causing, you aren't taking responsibility for the coronawave the rhetoric of your comment section is causing, which you refuse to even acknowledge let alone condemn.

    https://external-preview.redd.it/MUaBPRorA7kqzI5GXNrc5r-2zKh8im-qIcHl1Dzfjso.jpg?auto=webp&s=396c1b45f457842be4e7ca76cd4dfb62a33da803

    Translation: These atrocities: your fault! (Post-WWII American propaganda)

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon

    Sure – anyone who doesn’t share your pant-wetting hysteria about coronavirus is now guilty of genocide.

    Say – how do you fit your plague mask over your big bulbous red clown nose anyway?

  64. @Mr McKenna
    @AnotherDad


    We need to stop pussy-footing around and start walling off these Democrat enclaves.
     
    For my part, I never really bought into the notion of Trump playing 4-D chess. But isn't his announcing executive orders to extend unemployment, eviction moratoriums, etc a spectacular end run around Democrat propaganda?

    They're threatening to take him to court, but what will be the optics of that? Dems standing in the way of assistance to the needy in the midst of a pandemic?

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-future-of-us-politics-poc-vs-zionist/#comment-4083341

    And directly to your point: conspicuously absent from the executive orders Trump signed is the ~1 Trillion the Dems had earmarked as "aid to states and cities" which of course were aimed at places like NY and Illinois, which they've trashed with their policies these past few decades.

    Not hard to imagine Pelosi, Schumer & Co frantically trying to figure a way out of this political dilemma this evening.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    But isn’t his announcing executive orders to extend unemployment, eviction moratoriums, etc a spectacular end run around Democrat propaganda?

    He’s also issued orders deferring payroll taxes for some. Well, that certainly worked for George H.W. Bush, who did that in 1992.

    A lot of those people who may get extended unemployement and not be evicted will still hate Trump and vote against him.

  65. @Achmed E. Newman
    @unit472

    Also, Unit472, last time 'round there was no antifa violence in concert with the normal rioting. If you recall, early on, the cops were quite involved. That, and the subsequent doughnut-shopping, kept them from doing the regular police work that may have stopped a few murders by getting some criminals off the streets.

    As much as I see the evil in guys like George Soros, I don't think he's smart enough to plan this all out: Get lenient judges and/or prosecutors in place, instigate rioting for the cause of disbanding the police, cause the people to get so FED up with the lack of counteraction as to beg for the FEDS to come in, with the result of even more destruction of actual civil rights, causing the left to have something more to complain about and blame on Trump. Nah, he ain't THAT smart ... just lucky.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “George Soros”

    Soros funded DAs adding to the bLM crime wave. Soros funded black lady leadership in academia, media, and state and local governments increasing the degradation of American society. Soros investments in hate-filled black ladies leading to the demise of the United States. A rogue anti-aircraft missile taking out a private jet over the Atlantic won’t completely solve the problem but it will send a message.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  66. @Sean
    @Anonymous

    Deaths of blacks at hands of white police, riots against police brutality, police withdrawal, black on black homicide gets out of control, tough police tactics to save black lives authorised, political uproar over blacks being killed by police, riots. Rinse and repeat.


    https://newrepublic.com/article/141701/fire-last-time-detroit-stress-police-squad-terrorized-black-community
    Civil rights leaders “regard him as progressive,” the Free Press noted after his appointment. Nichols faced a daunting task. Robberies in the city had risen 67 percent in the previous two years. A staggering number of them—some 18,000 in 1970—took place on the street, and 85 resulted in murder. In one of his first orders of business, Nichols instructed his staff to conduct a thorough study of the available data and build a detailed profile of the “typical robbery.” They found that victims were most often “male, not young, nonwhite, and living in or near the neighborhood in which the robbery took place,” while criminals tended to be “young, nonwhite, and armed.” One of the most salient factors, for Nichols, involved the sheer brazenness of the crimes.

    In contrast to what one would believe, most robberies were not being carried out covertly. They occurred openly and in full view of other citizens and potential witnesses on the street. It was apparent that the criminal felt safe in carrying out his act in front of others. He obviously believed that large segments of the community were either so apathetic or intimidated that they would not interfere. His only concern then was to assure himself that there were no police in the area.
     
    Nichols planned to flood the streets with undercover cops disguised as drunks[...] Peterson ... achieved a certain notoriety in Detroit. [...] the tenth shooting death at which Peterson was present over a two-year period. He’d personally killed six men, all black, many unarmed, and wounded five others.
     

    Replies: @Prester John

    Yep. Same old, same old. Strikes and gutters…blah, blah.

    Read Tocqueville’s take on the Indians and the blacks. In the former case he all but predicts they will become extinct. In the latter case he predicts that even though blacks and whites are fundamentally incompatible (implying that they should NEVER have been brought to the New World in the first place), since the two races have become joined at the hip the net result is a wound that can never heal. In both cases he looks to be on target.

  67. @Known Fact
    @Giancarlo M. Kumquat

    The city's main claim to fame is the cartoon that begins as Bugs Bunny pops his head out of a hole in the middle of nowhere, looks around and says "Musta taken a wrong turn back at Albuquerque."

    Replies: @anon, @Reg Cæsar

    The city’s main claim to fame

    “Walter White” disagrees.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @anon

    Oops, you got me there, I never watched Breaking Bad (or any other TV series made in the 21st century).

  68. “Violent crime in St. Louis is intolerable lately”

    It’s been intolerable in our cities for decades. Yet we tolerate it. Our politicians at the local levels fret far less over the incessant carnage, than they do over the fear that law-abiding people might finally wake up and stop tolerating it.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @gutta percha

    Have to admit, NYC enjoyed a good run from 1995 to 2019. Values skyrocketed, not incidentally. And that filled the tax coffers so that people like DeBlasio and Chirlane could come along and throw it all away.

  69. “Homicide statistics in St. Louis, next door to Ferguson, MO, were perhaps the first fairly big city to reflect the Ferguson Effect…”

    Assuming, once again, that the Ferguson Effect is legitimate.

    “Who is backed by George Soros’s money…”

    Then, by your OWN logic, Mr.Sailer, if you are pointing out how politicians/law enforcement types are being unduly influenced by outside forces, then for consistency sake you ought to address it when “your own side” engages in similar conduct as well.

    https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/americas/u-s-to-continue-plan-to-sell-weapons-to-saudi-arabia-senate-fails-to-override-veto-1.7603876

    “Critics say that federal and state officials, including Parson and President Donald Trump, are trying to shift the public’s focus to violent crime instead of an economy devastated by the coronavirus pandemic and a series of failures to adequately contain the spread of the disease.”

    Wait, I thought that conservatives/Republicans preferred matters to be dealt with locally. Yet, there is an insistence by AG Barr to get involved. NOTICE a pattern–federal law enforcement is especially focusing on Democratic cities in battleground/purple states: FL (Jacksonville), MI (Detroit), PA (Philadelphia) MO (KC), OH (Cleveland), and WI (Milwaukee). Of course, as one (in)famous urban Negro mayoress stated, “If those agents are here to actually work in partnership on support of gun violence and violent cases, plugging into existing infrastructure federal agents, not trying to play police in our streets, then that’s something different and that may add value”.

    So, Mr. Sailer, why didn’t Trump make this a priority last year or four years ago if he was deathly concerned about “law and order” and reducing crime rates during his Administration? Furthermore, why did federal agents withdraw from Seattle and Portland, two hotbeds of leftism?

  70. @AnotherDad
    We need to stop pussy-footing around and start walling off these Democrat enclaves.

    MAGA.

    Replies: @Abe, @Mr McKenna, @Corvinus

    “We need to stop pussy-footing around and start walling off these Democrat enclaves.”

    No one is stopping you, Rambo.

  71. @Neuday

    St. Louis is one of eight cities where the operation has been announced.

    The operation was first launched July 8 in Kansas City. Sometimes referred to as Operation LeGend, it was named in honor of 4-year-old LeGend Taliferro, who was fatally shot in June while asleep in his Kansas City home.

    Officials announced July 22 it would be expanded to Chicago and Albuquerque. Cleveland, Detroit and Milwaukee were added to the list July 29. Memphis then was added along with St. Louis. …
     
    Albuquerque? What the heck's going on there?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @syonredux, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang, @Corvinus

    “Albuquerque? What the heck’s going on there?”

    Way back in October 2019, the mayor there was requesting state help to prioritize crime fighting. To my knowledge, President Trump had no concept of the problems in that particular city. Then [wallah!], he sends in FBI agents in July 2020. What gives?

    KELLER: You know, I think this is the real challenge. I mean, we always welcome actual crime-fighting partnership. But instead of – I know the earlier speaker mentioned that this is supposed to be bread and butter. I think we’re really worried about more of a bait and switch. And we’ve seen this from the administration before. And it’s – that’s what we hear on the front end. And then in the back end, this becomes sort of a secret police situation like Portland. And so we absolutely do not want that. And that’s not real crime fighting. It’s politics standing in the way of actual police work to make our cities less safe. And as a mayor, I mean, I’ve been given no formal details or any explanation of what these officers would actually do. And so of course we’re very concerned in the absence of that…You know, we actually work with federal partners literally every day on all sorts of different task forces. And so certainly if it fits, you know, within our value set, we would do it. And that’s pretty routine here. But what’s not routine is the president actually talking about it. And so I think in this context, that makes it even more suspect.

    Let us do some further NOTICING. Despite having almost exactly the same number of residents as Portland, Oklahoma City had a violent crime rate 67% higher and a murder rate more than double that of Portland, according to the most recent complete FBI statistics from 2018. What about Tulsa, Oklahoma, recent site of Trump’s campaign rally? In that same year, Tulsa’s was double Portland’s and its murder rate more than triple.

    One would think, therefore, that FBI agents would be sent to those cities. After all, President Trump is supposedly concerned about “law and order” (in an election year). So why are these two cities not receiving the “benefit” of mass infusions of federal law enforcement? Could it be that those two cities are run by…Republican mayors?

  72. @Steve Sailer
    @kimchilover

    Time Magazine published an article in 1971 theorizing that El Paso had a low crime rate due to the lithium in the water supply.

    Another guess is that a lot of the Mexican middle class of 1910 wound up in El Paso during the Mexican Revolution.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @kimchilover, @AceDeuce

    El Paso is, or at least was, the auto theft capital of the U.S. They had a mayor-a female, as I recall. who had her car stolen from her home twice in a single year.

    • Replies: @Jay Fink
    @AceDeuce

    If you look at the top 10 per capita auto theft cities they are mostly heavily Hispanic. The most recent 2019 list I saw had Albuquerque #1. My 50% Hispanic city in WA State often makes the auto theft top 10 even if we are below the national average in violent crime.

  73. @anon
    @Known Fact

    The city’s main claim to fame

    "Walter White" disagrees.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    Oops, you got me there, I never watched Breaking Bad (or any other TV series made in the 21st century).

  74. @Known Fact
    @Giancarlo M. Kumquat

    The city's main claim to fame is the cartoon that begins as Bugs Bunny pops his head out of a hole in the middle of nowhere, looks around and says "Musta taken a wrong turn back at Albuquerque."

    Replies: @anon, @Reg Cæsar

    The city’s main claim to fame is the cartoon that begins as Bugs Bunny pops his head out of a hole in the middle of nowhere, looks around and says “Musta taken a wrong turn back at Albuquerque.”

    • Replies: @bruce county
    @Reg Cæsar

    Shirley Jones was a spectacular looking woman.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  75. @kimchilover
    @Steve Sailer

    I live in Texas and it's hard for me to wrap my brain around this fact. All the other crime in my state makes a certain sense to me, but El Paso's relative tranquility is a head scratcher. Crime in other border areas (like Brownsville, Loredo and Del Rio) have far worse reputations. On the other hand, I've spent a ton of time in peaceful and sparsely populated border areas in West Texas like Marfa, Alpine and Marathon...but they're also populated by more trust fund white hipsters and multi-generational family-owned farm/hunting areas than most people realize (Antonin Scalia died at the fancy shmancy Cibilo Creek Ranch, which is just a stone's throw from Marfa).

    Maybe El Paso's low-crime rate has to do with it's the strong military and federal presence? Or maybe it's their extremely high elevation relative to the rest of the big cities in Texas? Serious head-scratcher.

    At any rate, Ciudad Juarez is truly terrifying (but other border towns like Nuevo Laredo - across from Laredo...duh - and Matamoros - across from Brownsville are practically just as violent).

    All I know is that whatever El Paso is doing right, I refuse to attribute it to Robert "Beto" O'Rouke.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Mr McKenna, @CJ

    Or maybe it’s their extremely high elevation relative to the rest of the big cities in Texas?

    Planes at Albuquerque’s airport are already a mile high before they get off the pavement. Much of the city is over 6,000 feet. Doesn’t seem to stop crime.

  76. @Alexander Turok
    @BenKenobi

    You irl:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCIo4MCO-_U

    Replies: @BenKenobi

    Yeah, I said that to you over a month ago to general applause, you insufferable clod.

    Stop posting. It’s over for you.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/washington-post-ratcheting-up-to-1860-south-carolina-fire-eater-rhetoric/#comment-4014426

  77. @Reg Cæsar
    @Known Fact


    The city’s main claim to fame is the cartoon that begins as Bugs Bunny pops his head out of a hole in the middle of nowhere, looks around and says “Musta taken a wrong turn back at Albuquerque.”
     
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=38XsRcDmTFc

    Replies: @bruce county

    Shirley Jones was a spectacular looking woman.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @bruce county


    Shirley Jones was a spectacular looking woman.
     
    She may still be. She was interviewed by Bob Cowsill for the 2011 doc Family Band, and both of them still looked sharp.
  78. @AceDeuce
    @Steve Sailer

    El Paso is, or at least was, the auto theft capital of the U.S. They had a mayor-a female, as I recall. who had her car stolen from her home twice in a single year.

    Replies: @Jay Fink

    If you look at the top 10 per capita auto theft cities they are mostly heavily Hispanic. The most recent 2019 list I saw had Albuquerque #1. My 50% Hispanic city in WA State often makes the auto theft top 10 even if we are below the national average in violent crime.

  79. @bruce county
    @Reg Cæsar

    Shirley Jones was a spectacular looking woman.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Shirley Jones was a spectacular looking woman.

    She may still be. She was interviewed by Bob Cowsill for the 2011 doc Family Band, and both of them still looked sharp.

  80. @gutta percha
    "Violent crime in St. Louis is intolerable lately"

    It's been intolerable in our cities for decades. Yet we tolerate it. Our politicians at the local levels fret far less over the incessant carnage, than they do over the fear that law-abiding people might finally wake up and stop tolerating it.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    Have to admit, NYC enjoyed a good run from 1995 to 2019. Values skyrocketed, not incidentally. And that filled the tax coffers so that people like DeBlasio and Chirlane could come along and throw it all away.

  81. Jimmie Edwards is a former Circuit Court Judge who is extremely competent and no- nonsense. Kim Gardner is not

  82. @Steve Sailer
    @Neuday

    Albuquerque usually has a lot of crime problems. Oddly, El Paso down the Rio Grande is usually pretty calm (whereas Ciudad Juarez across the river is Mordor).

    Replies: @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @kimchilover, @Hereward the Woke, @njguy73, @Thatgirl, @Mike Zwick

  83. @Steve Sailer
    @Neuday

    Albuquerque usually has a lot of crime problems. Oddly, El Paso down the Rio Grande is usually pretty calm (whereas Ciudad Juarez across the river is Mordor).

    Replies: @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @kimchilover, @Hereward the Woke, @njguy73, @Thatgirl, @Mike Zwick

    My grandpa mentioned a couple of times that, in his youth, he visited Albuquerque when it was a small town. That would have been about a hundred years ago, 1919-1925.

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