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From The Atlantic:

In Our House, Dr. Seuss Was Contraband

My mother went to enormous lengths to protect her family from negative stereotypes of Black people.

As all good white people who read The Atlantic believe, black people have incredibly low self-esteems. If anybody ever mentions a less than ecstatic word about blacks, they will suddenly realize the truth about themselves and simply die of embarrassment.

MARCH 6, 2021
Michael Harriot
Senior Writer at The Root

… One afternoon four decades ago, when I was about 8, I walked into my family’s house after playing outside and saw my mother sitting in the yellow recliner with a book in her lap. She had found the copy of Dr. Seuss’s Green Eggs and Ham.

I knew that I was in trouble… But the real issue, I soon learned, was that Dr. Seuss was on our family’s list of banned authors—for precisely the reason that the famous children’s book author is in the news this week: Some of his works portrayed nonwhite people in a racist way. My mother went to what I now realize were enormous lengths to shield us from negative images of Black people, a seemingly impossible task for someone raising children in 1970s and ’80s South Carolina. The intensity of her displeasure over a Dr. Seuss book being in her home—and not even one of the objectionable titles—speaks to how much labor her plan required.

… As someone who grew up with a mother who was saved, sanctified, and filled with the holy-but-defiant spirit of Malcolm X, I am intimately familiar with “cancel culture.” Nearly all the standard accoutrements of American youth were banned from my mother’s house. Christmas was for heathens. …

A few years ago, I asked my mother why she put so much effort into concocting this Caucasian-free cocoon. She informed me that our childhood was part of an experiment she had envisioned before we were even born. “A Black person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of whiteness,” she explained. Not a single day has passed since in which I have not thought about that sentence.

… Today, I wouldn’t read his books to my children. …

Harriot, the author of “The 5 Types of Becky” is actually pretty funny, but he’s also a huge racist.

 
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  1. “A Black person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of whiteness,”

    Game, set, match.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @bomag

    So... segregation is The Answer?

    , @AceDeuce
    @bomag

    "Game, set, match" for whom ?

    , @James Forrestal
    @bomag


    “A Black person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of whiteness,”

    Game, set, match.

     

    Sounds good. Yet while Whites must not oppress Blacks with the presence of their "Whiteness," they're also morally obligated to live in close proximity to Blacks -- in order to stop them from shooting each other:

    "...our findings suggest that even among neighborhoods of the same socioeconomic status, residential segregation may put Black individuals at higher risk of gun homicide"
    [Translated into standard English, the bold part means "If too many Blacks live in the same neighborhood, they tend to shoot each other a lot"]

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/whats-safer-at-reducing-murders-having-richer-neighbors-or-less-black-neighbors/

    [Original source]

    So how do they resolve this blatant internal contradiction in the recently-reified dogma of so-called "critical race theory" -- which, building on earlier semitic standards, serves to shore up the rotten edifice of systemic semitism?

    Through some pilpul about how "Whiteness" is a "social construct" that is intrinsically "toxic" and will inevitably compel Evil Whitey to gas 6 billion more members of the Tribe of Supreme Victims... and the only way to avoid anuddah shoah is for the White goyim learn to "heal" from their "toxic Whiteness".* See, once Whites [who aren't really White, but just think they are] manage to fully "heal" from their "Whiteness," becoming fully atomized, raceless, identityless, self-hating cogs in the North American module of the great machine of the global economy... then the endless paranoia and bottomless thirst for "revenge" that is so characteristic of toxic semitism will finally be assuaged. Honest. See, they're not really motivated by virulent, unreasoning hatred for the White goyim, but by a deep desire to help us. To tikkun the goyim, as it were.

    We can easily illustrate the self-evident validity of this "reasoning" by simply substituting the name of another race/ ethny/ nation for "White"/ "Whiteness" in this kind of rhetoric.

    "We need to eliminate the toxic social construct of Blackness.' The only way to stop Black criminal predation is to help them to heal from their toxic Blackness; to abolish the Black race."

    Or even:

    "Jewishness is a toxic social construct that is defined only by collective hatred of the goy Other, leading inevitably to the ever-present scourge of semitic supremacism. We cannot effectively deal with systemic semitism and jew privilege without completely abolishing jewishness."

    Uh huh. I'm sure they'd be OK with that...

    Anyway, in this context, the way that they would typically paper over this massive hole in their virulently anti-White "theory" would be to blabber about how avoiding Blacks is in and of itself a manifestation of "toxic Whiteness"; by dealing with them sycophantically in close proximity, you'd not only be "checking your privilege" and becoming a "self-hating ally of systemic semitism"... you'd be "healing your toxic Whiteness." By applying this technique of "Whiteness amputation," you would magically morph into a "White without Whiteness," so they would -- theoretically and grudgingly -- accept your presence in spite of their hatred. Or something.

    I'm not claiming that Harriott (or Jennifer Rubin, for that matter) could generate complex enough pilpul to produce a superficially-coherent-appearing rationalization on this basis, but for someone like Tamara "We have to kill the Syrians to save them" Wittes, it would be all in a day's work.

    *Note that some Korean named Sandra Kim (who is apparently entirely healed from Toxic Yellowness) gets the primary "credit" for this atrocity, but what do we find a couple of paragraphs in?

    "Kim launched the course in October 2016 with 'help' from Dara Silverman"
    Every. Single. Time. It's not just a meme...
  2. I saw some NYT goober on Twitter is trying to get Pepe le Pew cancelled for not getting affirmative consent.

    What’s astonishing is the number of people in the replies who agreed. Is Twitter silencing normal people, or is there a sorting effect going on, or are there really just that many nutters on the Twitter? (As opposed to here, where we are all perfectly normal.)

    I do think there’s definitely a disproportionately large number of nuts, weirdos, autists, etc, on the internet. Worth bearing in mind when you’re getting into another pointless argument: is this person actually mental?

    • Agree: Not Only Wrathful
    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    It's a coalition of white women, blacks, and gay activists.

  3. Dr. Seuss has his own line of t-shirts. Now that Dr. Seuss has been Cancel Cultured, wearing a Dr. Seuss t-shirt would be the equivalent of wearing a MAGA t-shirt and random Democrat strangers on the streets would most likely try to commit violence against you if you wore a Dr. Seuss t-shirt out in public in Portland, Oregon for example!

    • Replies: @Possumman
    @Luzzatto

    Howsabout a Dr. Seuss t-shirt with a Aloha shirt unbuttoned over it to cover your holster?

    , @James Forrestal
    @Luzzatto


    Now that Dr. Seuss has been Cancel Cultured, wearing a Dr. Seuss t-shirt would be the equivalent of wearing a MAGA t-shirt
     
    > "Cancelled"

    > Made $33M" last year.

    Pick one.
    Though it would be great to see Shitlib Aesop fully cancelled -- the revolution eating its own -- it just ain't gonna happen. It's merely an optics move; they're trying to fake some concern for the schvartzes. As well as trying to realign his message with critical race theory (rather than the old-style liberal "colorblind" approach, which is now viewed as unequivocally "r****t").

    But you are correct in pointing out that Geisel had more than a few similarities to [former] President Kushner. Sheldon Adelson's man in the White House was, of course, a sycophantic servant of the Tribe -- specifically of neo-revisionist Zionism:

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/in-sheldon-adelson-far-right-israel-hits-the-jackpot-trum-miriam-netanyahu/

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/trump-heights-israel-netanyahu-golan-occupied-territories-a8961551.html

    https://mondoweiss.net/2019/04/adelsons-greatest-jerusalem/

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/trump-heights-israel-netanyahu-golan-occupied-territories-a8961551.html

    Sure, the leftist diaspora jews got pretty hysterical about the Orange Man, but not because they actually objected to his incessant Israel Firstism -- more that they felt (more or less correctly) that nationalism/ populism tends to lead to higher levels of goyim noticing:

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/11/is-there-a-new-american-antisemitism.html
    [Chait isn't really "left" by the Tribe's standards, but he's virulently anti-White]

    Geisel:

    https://i.postimg.cc/TwHTsprx/Seuss-Geisel-Pic.jpg

    -That's some... interesting physiognomy there

    -He admitted that his motivation going to work for the leftist publication PM in early 1941 to crank out hundreds of pro-war cartoons was largely an instinctive, vitriolic hatred for American patriots like Charles Lindbergh. Geisel had an intense, visceral hatred for Father Coughlin as well.

    -The Times of Israel, in discussing the recent campaign, was quick to point out that Geisel worked hard to get the US involved in WW2, and to promote images of jewish victimhood, and that even if some of his cartoons may seem a little "r****t" in retrospect, "The Tribe is way more important than those filthy kushim, after all" (or something like that).

    -Geisel is also notorious for writing the script for the hate film Your Job in Germany, which was shown to American occupation troops to make sure that they "knew" that the German people were genetically programmed to be evil, and that they should steer clear of even small children. It was such ham-handed a̶n̶t̶i̶-̶g̶o̶y̶ anti-German propaganda that General Patton walked out of the initial screening, muttering "Bullshit."

    - And what's this?
    "In a ceremony at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in 1969, Theodor Seuss Geisel... in recognition of his friendship for the Jewish people, was awarded the title of “Honorary Jew” by Jerusalem mayor Teddy Kollek."

    Huh. Anyway, the official story is that Geisel was just an unusually obsequious shabbos goy who happened to have an intense, instinctive hatred for both American patriots and his fellow Germans. But it doesn't really matter whether his toxic semitism was hereditary or acquired -- let the Tribe and the leftists go to bat for Shitlib Aesop. He's their hero, not mine.
  4. The Atlantic — employment for inventive people — grievance specialists.

    See:

    http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2021/02/inventions-of-lesser-kind.html

  5. “…the presence of whiteness.” She did not say that! Did she invent that moronic term,whiteness?
    For that matter,the mother forbidding Dr. Suess sounds like horseshit.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  6. Actually pretty funny and a huge racist?

    Ron should offer him a weekly column on Unz, he’d fit right in.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @whahae


    Ron should offer him a weekly column on Unz, he’d fit right in.
     
    The comments would be spectacular!
  7. A few years ago, I asked my mother why she put so much effort into concocting this Caucasian-free cocoon. She informed me that our childhood was part of an experiment she had envisioned before we were even born. “A Black person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of whiteness,” she explained. Not a single day has passed since in which I have not thought about that sentence.

    Admirable aspiration for Black self-sufficiency in line with the original Black Power movement. And then he ended up making a living by writing for The Atlantic. Sad.

  8. If he truly believes what he declares, then he would call for a black-only nation carved out of the USA. And his demand would feature historically wealthy areas, such as CT and NY.

  9. A Black person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of whiteness

    Partially true. Add also other non-black & non-white races, too.

  10. A Black person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of whiteness,” she explained.

    Paradoxically, a black person’s inhumanity is fully realized every time a negro murders a white.

  11. If it is so horrible for blacks to be around whites then why don’t blacks move back to Africa?

  12. Would Harriot agree with the statement “It’s okay to be white?”

  13. “A Black person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of whiteness,” she explained.

    This is extreme child abuse. The writer will only start his healing journey when he can recognise this fact. I feel very sorry for him.

    “Whiteness” will mean a bunch of characteristics that actually exist within everyone. The writer was denied these in himself and forced into being a half person in order to reinforce his mother’s wounded ego. Forced self-alienation of this kind is brutal. What a b*tch

  14. Dr. Seuss was on our family’s list of banned authors—

    You’re lying. You made it up. This is the new new journalism. You can say anything you want, and (we’ll) print it, so long as it slanders white people.

    “A Black person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of whiteness,” she explained.

    You’re lying. You’re lying so much that even Atlantic readers might get suspicious J/K.

    What she said is “Dayum I do hates dem cracker-ass crackers!”

    • Agree: Currahee
  15. “As someone who grew up with a mother who was saved, sanctified, and filled with the holy-but-defiant spirit of Malcolm X”

    Boring old Dr. Seuss bad, homosexual prostitute and pimp, Malcolm X, good.

  16. My mother went to what I now realize were enormous lengths to shield us from negative images of Black people, a seemingly impossible task for someone raising children in 1970s and ’80s South Carolina.

    After that part, I wouldn’t believe anything else from this Michael Harriot. In 1970s and ’80 S. Carolina, race relations were in the best period they ever have been since that time and and the best since before the turmoil of the Civil Rites era. The only negative images of black people would have been in the heads of black and white people based solely on, well, negative things they’d seen in person about black people. It’s not in Dr. Seuss books.

    If his Mom was really a big fan of Malcolm X and she canceled Christmas, than he didn’t grow up a normal churchgoing black kid in S. Carolina. He grew up with a freak of a Mom and hence turned out to be a freak too. There’s a lot of work out there for freaks now, though…

    • Replies: @Luzzatto
    @Achmed E. Newman

    ....

    , @Luzzatto
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The Brotha had a Christmasless childhood? So growing up in the 1970s he did not listen to Michael Jackson's I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus song?
    https://youtu.be/PITCmngiMfA

    , @MarkU
    @Achmed E. Newman

    To be fair, she did have a case for cancelling Christmas. Historically, Santa Claus only delivered gifts to children of European descent, the racist bastard.

    , @Jack D
    @Achmed E. Newman

    It's not at all unbelievable that Herriot's mom was a Black Muslim, regardless of the state of race relations in S. Carolina in the '70s and '80s. Black Muslims are mostly concentrated in the big northern ghettos but they are not unknown in S. Carolina. I have no reason to disbelieve Herriot on this. It destroys your own credibility when you falsely accuse someone of lying and then they are able to prove that they were being completely truthful, so I suggest that you not make such accusations lightly.

    There are some black tall tales (e.g. Althea Bernstein) that are self-refuting but this doesn't strike me as one of them. The ones that are most unbelievable tend to emanate mostly from females (and from feminine gay men). What % of "hate hoax" stories feature straight male protagonists?

    What you or a neutral observer would consider to be negative images of black people, and what a fanatical Black Muslim would consider to be negative, are two different things.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Burn_the_Witch, @Matt Buckalew, @Adam Smith

    , @Altai
    @Achmed E. Newman

    His audience is almost entirely college-educated SJW black women under 25, the 70s and 80s are dark mysterious times filled with racism and sexism for all they know.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    , @Patrick McNally
    @Achmed E. Newman

    One part of his story which might be subject to investigation is whether or not he was raised as a Muslim. The tone of his writing reads like something meant to appeal to really dumb Christian (or perhaps "Churchian" in Mano-sphere lingo) audiences. But Malcolm X was a Muslim and if his mother really was this fervent follower of Malcolm X then he should be able to document an Islamic upbringing. Does he still believe in Allah today? Did he break from the Islamic teachings? If he claims that his mother raised him as anything else then his story can be discarded as pure hokum.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  17. That all said (above), I just looked at your title, Steve, and that’s pretty much what you said with it.

  18. At first I was going to credit the Michael Harriot for his honesty. But then after reading I realized he is dishonest about why he is so. First of all, I do not believe his tale about the Dr. Seuss books in his home. That is a pure fabrication based on the current Seuss cancelling so that he can pretend his mother (no mention of pops) was some sort of visionary 40 years ahead of her time.

    ““A Black person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of whiteness,””

    And here reveals the fundamental nature of black hatred for whites: Envy.

    • Agree: JMcG, 3g4me
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Mike Tre

    Yes, one of the bizarre tendencies with modern journalism is not understanding their topic. Not only do they not do any research, not only are they stone ignorant, but their work is an exposition of their ignorance. Seuss comes down to us in part because he's widely beloved but also in part because he is (or was, last censorship round) "safe." Major media permits us to remember him, for now. There's plenty of authors, songs, toys, cartoons, etc. you are not permitted to remember, eg, the Mynah Bird cartoon, which depicts a primitive African child with a bone in his nose (and an Atlantic column about hair). We have to see the rolling nature of the censorship, how nothing is ever enough, and next time they will ask for what was safe before.
    So the mom censored a guy who was not considered racist by anyone and not more clearly racist books, some of which were massively famous?

  19. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    “A Black person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of whiteness,”

    But you couldn’t pay me to live in Africa among those savages.

    #Liberia

  20. I realize that this solution isn’t Steve’s cup of tea, but separate countries is the only answer.

    Every story, every day has the same root cause. This will never – never – end until we separate. Blacks will never act white naturally.

    Let’s stop imposing our norms on a foreign people. Let’s stop a foreign people from imposing their rules on us.

    • Agree: Angharad
  21. “Last real Negus alive”

    Why isn’t he in Ethiopia then?

    You need to go back, Lion!

    Or maybe WIkipedia should be updated with new names for the kingdoms. Atlanta, Detroit, Chicago etc.

    Negus is a noun derived from the Eritrean and Northern Ethiopian Semitic root ngś, meaning “to reign”. The title has subsequently been used to translate the word “king” or “emperor” in Biblical and other literature. In more recent times, it was used as an honorific title bestowed on governors of the most important provinces (kingdoms): Gojjam, Begemder, Wollo, Tigray and the seaward kingdom.

  22. A few years ago, I asked my mother why she put so much effort into concocting this Black-free cocoon. She informed me that our childhood was part of an experiment she had envisioned before we were even born. “A White person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of blackness,” she explained. Not a single day has passed since in which I have not thought about that sentence.

    • LOL: MarkU
    • Replies: @Wade Hampton
    @Jack D

    If a traditionalist agreed with Mr. Harriot's progressive mother, that blacks need to be with blacks and by extension whites with whites (just as in your hypothetical), he would surely be condemned as a racist.

    Is this a philosophical version of prohibited language, where rappers can use a word in every line of their "poetry" that if a traditionalist used he would be cast into the outer darkness?

    Traditionalists and progressives can't use the same words. Apparently, traditionalists and progressives can't think the same thoughts. The future looks pretty bleak.

    , @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    But that version is actually true when you factor in the constant self-censorship, head-bowing, job losses, humiliating public spectacles, war against public safety, noisemaking, destroying of policy to accommodate the lowest common denominator, et cetera.

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Jack D

    Maybe your mother was right. Always watch your tongue around the help.

  23. Negus? Is that OK for wypipo to use?

  24. @Achmed E. Newman

    My mother went to what I now realize were enormous lengths to shield us from negative images of Black people, a seemingly impossible task for someone raising children in 1970s and ’80s South Carolina.
     
    After that part, I wouldn't believe anything else from this Michael Harriot. In 1970s and '80 S. Carolina, race relations were in the best period they ever have been since that time and and the best since before the turmoil of the Civil Rites era. The only negative images of black people would have been in the heads of black and white people based solely on, well, negative things they'd seen in person about black people. It's not in Dr. Seuss books.

    If his Mom was really a big fan of Malcolm X and she canceled Christmas, than he didn't grow up a normal churchgoing black kid in S. Carolina. He grew up with a freak of a Mom and hence turned out to be a freak too. There's a lot of work out there for freaks now, though...

    Replies: @Luzzatto, @Luzzatto, @MarkU, @Jack D, @Altai, @Patrick McNally

    ….

  25. Harriot, the author of “The 5 Types of Becky” is actually pretty funny, but he’s also a huge racist.

    He is probably a fabulist, too. So much of what blacks say about their past is unverifiable. Very few black academics and politicians can point to journals or letters to give backing to various claims of racism but the whole notion of trust but verify is white supremacy. Everything a black man says, like Dr Seuss was contraband in his childhood, must be taken on face value by whites. In this way, Joe Biden is our first black Vice President. Before Kamala Harris borrowed the infamous Fweedom childhood anecdote from Martin Luther King for her political biography, Joe Biden was borrowing the dying utterances of Canadian politician Jack Layton. False memories are not lying if you believe they could have happened.

  26. @Achmed E. Newman

    My mother went to what I now realize were enormous lengths to shield us from negative images of Black people, a seemingly impossible task for someone raising children in 1970s and ’80s South Carolina.
     
    After that part, I wouldn't believe anything else from this Michael Harriot. In 1970s and '80 S. Carolina, race relations were in the best period they ever have been since that time and and the best since before the turmoil of the Civil Rites era. The only negative images of black people would have been in the heads of black and white people based solely on, well, negative things they'd seen in person about black people. It's not in Dr. Seuss books.

    If his Mom was really a big fan of Malcolm X and she canceled Christmas, than he didn't grow up a normal churchgoing black kid in S. Carolina. He grew up with a freak of a Mom and hence turned out to be a freak too. There's a lot of work out there for freaks now, though...

    Replies: @Luzzatto, @Luzzatto, @MarkU, @Jack D, @Altai, @Patrick McNally

    The Brotha had a Christmasless childhood? So growing up in the 1970s he did not listen to Michael Jackson’s I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus song?

  27. @Achmed E. Newman

    My mother went to what I now realize were enormous lengths to shield us from negative images of Black people, a seemingly impossible task for someone raising children in 1970s and ’80s South Carolina.
     
    After that part, I wouldn't believe anything else from this Michael Harriot. In 1970s and '80 S. Carolina, race relations were in the best period they ever have been since that time and and the best since before the turmoil of the Civil Rites era. The only negative images of black people would have been in the heads of black and white people based solely on, well, negative things they'd seen in person about black people. It's not in Dr. Seuss books.

    If his Mom was really a big fan of Malcolm X and she canceled Christmas, than he didn't grow up a normal churchgoing black kid in S. Carolina. He grew up with a freak of a Mom and hence turned out to be a freak too. There's a lot of work out there for freaks now, though...

    Replies: @Luzzatto, @Luzzatto, @MarkU, @Jack D, @Altai, @Patrick McNally

    To be fair, she did have a case for cancelling Christmas. Historically, Santa Claus only delivered gifts to children of European descent, the racist bastard.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  28. “A Black person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of whiteness,” she explained.

    This does not account for most of the great QB/WR duos.

  29. The amount of black self loathing is breathtaking.

  30. I’ll bet you he has had WAY MORE sex with white girls than all the “men” here combined

    That tells you something right there

    • Replies: @fish
    @Tiny Duck

    ......sigh. I'm bored.

    , @Muggles
    @Tiny Duck


    I’ll bet you he has had WAY MORE sex with white girls than all the “men” here combined

    That tells you something right there
     
    What this tells us is that the now returned 'Tiny Duck' here is full of racist stereotypes. But only the 'good' kind.

    And here we thought Biden's stolen election would make you go away...
    , @JimB
    @Tiny Duck


    I’ll bet you he has had WAY MORE sex with white girls than all the “men” here combined

    That tells you something right there
     
    That he’s a sex offender?

    Replies: @JMcG

    , @MEH 0910
    @Tiny Duck

    https://nypost.com/2017/05/06/dont-be-fooled-ducks-are-sadistic-raping-monsters/

    https://twitter.com/cookietriathlon/status/1368565371473629191

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Tiny Duck


    I’ll bet you he has had WAY MORE sex with white girls than all the “men” here combined

     

    The men here, or anywhere else outside the porn studio and the bathhouse, do not "combine" for sex. It's the "one wee-wee rule" for us.


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZ9GbPHXgAEaEyd.jpg
  31. The giant 10,000 pound yellow-with-pink-polka-dots elephant in the room: all races, and ethnic groups within the races, are every bit as “supremacist” as so-called “whites”. How could they not be? To define your group is to positively set yourself apart from all the other groups, and negatively compare them with your group to reinforce your group’s “specialness”.

  32. You know he made that up!

  33. I wonder what his father’s policy on Dr. Seuss was . . . and so does he.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @black sea


    I wonder what his father’s policy on Dr. Seuss was . . . and so does he.

     

    The boy looks like the mailman
    The mother's a ho
    Child Support can't catch me
    Out the door do I go!
    , @Gary in Gramercy
    @black sea

    I can't bring myself to read an entire article by a self-confessed "master race-baiter" (Steve's right: that one multilevel pun proves the guy's funny), but are you implying Papa was a rolling stone?

  34. @Achmed E. Newman

    My mother went to what I now realize were enormous lengths to shield us from negative images of Black people, a seemingly impossible task for someone raising children in 1970s and ’80s South Carolina.
     
    After that part, I wouldn't believe anything else from this Michael Harriot. In 1970s and '80 S. Carolina, race relations were in the best period they ever have been since that time and and the best since before the turmoil of the Civil Rites era. The only negative images of black people would have been in the heads of black and white people based solely on, well, negative things they'd seen in person about black people. It's not in Dr. Seuss books.

    If his Mom was really a big fan of Malcolm X and she canceled Christmas, than he didn't grow up a normal churchgoing black kid in S. Carolina. He grew up with a freak of a Mom and hence turned out to be a freak too. There's a lot of work out there for freaks now, though...

    Replies: @Luzzatto, @Luzzatto, @MarkU, @Jack D, @Altai, @Patrick McNally

    It’s not at all unbelievable that Herriot’s mom was a Black Muslim, regardless of the state of race relations in S. Carolina in the ’70s and ’80s. Black Muslims are mostly concentrated in the big northern ghettos but they are not unknown in S. Carolina. I have no reason to disbelieve Herriot on this. It destroys your own credibility when you falsely accuse someone of lying and then they are able to prove that they were being completely truthful, so I suggest that you not make such accusations lightly.

    There are some black tall tales (e.g. Althea Bernstein) that are self-refuting but this doesn’t strike me as one of them. The ones that are most unbelievable tend to emanate mostly from females (and from feminine gay men). What % of “hate hoax” stories feature straight male protagonists?

    What you or a neutral observer would consider to be negative images of black people, and what a fanatical Black Muslim would consider to be negative, are two different things.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack D

    I didn't want to cut the guy off in mid-sentence, Jack. Here's the part that is BS. (I should know too - won't get into detail.):


    ... to shield us from negative images of Black people, a seemingly impossible task for someone raising children in 1970s and ’80s South Carolina.
     
    There was no world of negative images of black people in the late '70s and early '80s, not in rural S. Carolina and not in urban S. Carolina. This guy is full of shit with that.

    As I wrote, that period was one of the best periods of race relations, at least in the South. Black people did not have the entitlement mentality as today, and white people gave them a chance. (Not to the point of living in the same areas and going to church together, of course.)

    The disagreement was not over his writer's Mom being a black Moslem. As the title says, she was a racist crank, and so's the son.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Paperback Writer, @Dan Smith

    , @Burn_the_Witch
    @Jack D

    Take a breath or two. And get a better BS detector.

    , @Matt Buckalew
    @Jack D

    This is one of the most bat shit responses I’ve seen on this site- a site that could have supplied enough saltpeter to fight the Napoleonic Wars twice over. When a VJ starts feeling themselves look out. He implies nothing about his religious upbringing and he’s right 1970s and 80s were the height of racial paternalism in the south. Wealthy whites had built five layers of insulation around themselves against black misbehavior and were extremely interested in showing the rest of the country that the south had moved on.

    John Thompson and Lebron would be two off the head examples of hate hoaxes perpetrated by straight black men though I imagine Lebron has dabbled in the dark arts so to speak.

    Replies: @northeast

    , @Adam Smith
    @Jack D

    Bubba Wallace is gay?

    Replies: @Lot

  35. @black sea
    I wonder what his father's policy on Dr. Seuss was . . . and so does he.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Gary in Gramercy

    I wonder what his father’s policy on Dr. Seuss was . . . and so does he.

    The boy looks like the mailman
    The mother’s a ho
    Child Support can’t catch me
    Out the door do I go!

  36. My mother went to what I now realize were enormous lengths to shield us from negative images of Black people

    She forgot to do one thing: she forgot to keep him away from other black people.

    If this guy is funny I’ll just have to believe you. The first thought that went through my head was that his essay could have been much improved if it had begun “It was a dark and stormy night.”

  37. @Jack D
    @Achmed E. Newman

    It's not at all unbelievable that Herriot's mom was a Black Muslim, regardless of the state of race relations in S. Carolina in the '70s and '80s. Black Muslims are mostly concentrated in the big northern ghettos but they are not unknown in S. Carolina. I have no reason to disbelieve Herriot on this. It destroys your own credibility when you falsely accuse someone of lying and then they are able to prove that they were being completely truthful, so I suggest that you not make such accusations lightly.

    There are some black tall tales (e.g. Althea Bernstein) that are self-refuting but this doesn't strike me as one of them. The ones that are most unbelievable tend to emanate mostly from females (and from feminine gay men). What % of "hate hoax" stories feature straight male protagonists?

    What you or a neutral observer would consider to be negative images of black people, and what a fanatical Black Muslim would consider to be negative, are two different things.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Burn_the_Witch, @Matt Buckalew, @Adam Smith

    I didn’t want to cut the guy off in mid-sentence, Jack. Here’s the part that is BS. (I should know too – won’t get into detail.):

    … to shield us from negative images of Black people, a seemingly impossible task for someone raising children in 1970s and ’80s South Carolina.

    There was no world of negative images of black people in the late ’70s and early ’80s, not in rural S. Carolina and not in urban S. Carolina. This guy is full of shit with that.

    As I wrote, that period was one of the best periods of race relations, at least in the South. Black people did not have the entitlement mentality as today, and white people gave them a chance. (Not to the point of living in the same areas and going to church together, of course.)

    The disagreement was not over his writer’s Mom being a black Moslem. As the title says, she was a racist crank, and so’s the son.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Achmed E. Newman

    To his mother, "negative images of Black people" meant ANY images that portrayed white people as anything other than devils and did not feature blacks in 100% of the heroic roles. She was surely not up on the obscure racist sins of Seuss that have recently been uncovered (and which don't even concern blacks - the offensive caricature in Mulberry St. is a Chinaman).

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Luzzatto, @The Truth

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Achmed E. Newman


    The disagreement was not over his writer’s Mom being a black Moslem.

     

    You were unclear about that. Your comment, to me, read that you doubted the truthfulness of Herriot's account because his mother was a Black Muslim and he grew up in S. Carolina.

    If his Mom was really a big fan of Malcolm X and she canceled Christmas, than he didn’t grow up a normal churchgoing black kid in S. Carolina. He grew up with a freak of a Mom and hence turned out to be a freak too. There’s a lot of work out there for freaks now, though…
     
    Huh? The whole article is frank about the fact that he didn't grow up as a normal churchgoing black kid in S. Carolina. He's not covering up his freakishness, he's preening it and telling the world it's a great thing. What, exactly are you pointing out, that you should hit the ball with the bat?

    The notable thing here is that the middle-of-the-road liberal Atlantic publishes this shit. Harper's, a far more radical magazine, would never do this. Nor would wsws.org, whose class obsession protects them from this.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Dan Smith
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I lived in Charleston 1964-68, attended Porter-Gaud School (major elitist private school) for two years until I got shipped North to a communist run progressive school in Vermont. Talk about cognitive dissonance! The overwhelming sentiment among whites in Charleston was one of paternalistic racist claptrap. Nobody believed blacks wanted anything but status quo. At the same time, the Upcountry KKK types were despised as ignorant white trash. By the way, I learned recently Stephen Colbert graduated from PG. Wonder what his pedigree is?

    Replies: @Lot

  38. @Achmed E. Newman

    My mother went to what I now realize were enormous lengths to shield us from negative images of Black people, a seemingly impossible task for someone raising children in 1970s and ’80s South Carolina.
     
    After that part, I wouldn't believe anything else from this Michael Harriot. In 1970s and '80 S. Carolina, race relations were in the best period they ever have been since that time and and the best since before the turmoil of the Civil Rites era. The only negative images of black people would have been in the heads of black and white people based solely on, well, negative things they'd seen in person about black people. It's not in Dr. Seuss books.

    If his Mom was really a big fan of Malcolm X and she canceled Christmas, than he didn't grow up a normal churchgoing black kid in S. Carolina. He grew up with a freak of a Mom and hence turned out to be a freak too. There's a lot of work out there for freaks now, though...

    Replies: @Luzzatto, @Luzzatto, @MarkU, @Jack D, @Altai, @Patrick McNally

    His audience is almost entirely college-educated SJW black women under 25, the 70s and 80s are dark mysterious times filled with racism and sexism for all they know.

    • Agree: Not Raul
    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Altai


    His audience is almost entirely college-educated SJW black women under 25, the 70s and 80s are dark mysterious times filled with racism and sexism for all they know.
     
    One of the changes that has occurred since that time is that the notion of peaceful coexistence as the goal of race relations has been replaced with a mandatory celebration of blacks - if you withhold any expression of celebration you're suspect as a racist. This was, I think, what was communicated by the Obama phenomenon and which has become by now the standard of racism. I don't think this is a standard only recognized or enforced by "college-educated SJW black women under 25."
  39. “A Black person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of whiteness”

    Written in English.

  40. @Jack D
    @Achmed E. Newman

    It's not at all unbelievable that Herriot's mom was a Black Muslim, regardless of the state of race relations in S. Carolina in the '70s and '80s. Black Muslims are mostly concentrated in the big northern ghettos but they are not unknown in S. Carolina. I have no reason to disbelieve Herriot on this. It destroys your own credibility when you falsely accuse someone of lying and then they are able to prove that they were being completely truthful, so I suggest that you not make such accusations lightly.

    There are some black tall tales (e.g. Althea Bernstein) that are self-refuting but this doesn't strike me as one of them. The ones that are most unbelievable tend to emanate mostly from females (and from feminine gay men). What % of "hate hoax" stories feature straight male protagonists?

    What you or a neutral observer would consider to be negative images of black people, and what a fanatical Black Muslim would consider to be negative, are two different things.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Burn_the_Witch, @Matt Buckalew, @Adam Smith

    Take a breath or two. And get a better BS detector.

  41. @Altai
    @Achmed E. Newman

    His audience is almost entirely college-educated SJW black women under 25, the 70s and 80s are dark mysterious times filled with racism and sexism for all they know.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    His audience is almost entirely college-educated SJW black women under 25, the 70s and 80s are dark mysterious times filled with racism and sexism for all they know.

    One of the changes that has occurred since that time is that the notion of peaceful coexistence as the goal of race relations has been replaced with a mandatory celebration of blacks – if you withhold any expression of celebration you’re suspect as a racist. This was, I think, what was communicated by the Obama phenomenon and which has become by now the standard of racism. I don’t think this is a standard only recognized or enforced by “college-educated SJW black women under 25.”

  42. ‘But the real issue, I soon learned, was that Dr. Seuss was on our family’s list of banned authors—for precisely the reason that the famous children’s book author is in the news this week: Some of his works portrayed nonwhite people in a racist way.’

    Avoiding the ugliness of the world does not prepare you for handling it. His mother raised him poorly.

    The root method of Cultural Marxist hegemony is accommodating/pushing mental illness. Neurosis, personality disorder, and paranoia are the tools of the trade.

    ‘Some of his works portrayed nonwhite people in a racist way.’

    Whah! Whah!

    Avoiding/banning is NOT a solution. Sticks & stones.

    I submit that anyone who says, “in a racist way,” isn’t stable.

    • Agree: William Badwhite
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Gamecock

    ‘Some of his works portrayed nonwhite people in a racist way.’
     

    Now why you criticizing Black Fragility?
  43. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack D

    I didn't want to cut the guy off in mid-sentence, Jack. Here's the part that is BS. (I should know too - won't get into detail.):


    ... to shield us from negative images of Black people, a seemingly impossible task for someone raising children in 1970s and ’80s South Carolina.
     
    There was no world of negative images of black people in the late '70s and early '80s, not in rural S. Carolina and not in urban S. Carolina. This guy is full of shit with that.

    As I wrote, that period was one of the best periods of race relations, at least in the South. Black people did not have the entitlement mentality as today, and white people gave them a chance. (Not to the point of living in the same areas and going to church together, of course.)

    The disagreement was not over his writer's Mom being a black Moslem. As the title says, she was a racist crank, and so's the son.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Paperback Writer, @Dan Smith

    To his mother, “negative images of Black people” meant ANY images that portrayed white people as anything other than devils and did not feature blacks in 100% of the heroic roles. She was surely not up on the obscure racist sins of Seuss that have recently been uncovered (and which don’t even concern blacks – the offensive caricature in Mulberry St. is a Chinaman).

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Jack D

    I'm not going to go back & read the article again, but it said that his mother regularly censored images that had whites at all. So it's worse than what you say.

    , @Luzzatto
    @Jack D

    Democrats can shift the blame from Donald Trump to Dr. Seuss's books on Chinamen for Black on Asian violence because Black Thugs love to read books!

    , @The Truth
    @Jack D

    Absolutely correct. Blacks are the thoroughbred racists. And by racist I mean the correct meaning of the word. The correct meaning of the word racist is NOT liking or loving or preferring etc. your own kind over others. Racism is the exclusive property of blacks because they base ALL OF THEIR DECISIONS ON RACE IRREGUARDLESS OF TRUTH OR FACTS! There are many examples. I'll just give one. O.J. Simpson. Does anyone recall when that verdict was read and the news cameras caught ALL of the gory details of the TRUTH about black people? Remember ALL the black people jumping and shouting for JOY over that BLACK man getting off scot free after stabbing to death those two white people? That is racism. In it's purest form. Now I remember seeing a "famous" picture of I think it was two blacks hung outside on a tree after the white people stormed the jail and took those innocent, murderous, "little angels" out of jail and hung them. What the picture doesn't tell you is the fact that they let another black boy, that was arrested with the other two, go because he was innocent of the crime. Now, that's not racism. That's JUSTICE. If that crowd of white people were actually racists they would have hung the innocent boy along with the guilty, murderous "little angels." But they didn't. That's not racism. That's justice. The white people stuck to the facts and black people NEVER DO!

  44. There’s an entire continent where Hariot’s mother could have insulated him easily from all caucasians, and provided the added bonus of insulating us from people like her.
    Curious she didn’t book a flight..
    I hear there are very few books there! Makes it easy to keep Seuss out of the house!

  45. By the way, reliable iSteve content generator Charles Blow in his hit piece on Seuss / Geisel also determined that Pepe Le Pew normalized rape culture. We didn’t really get around to that part.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9334187/NYT-publishes-column-claiming-Looney-Tunes-character-Pepe-Le-Pew-normalized-rape-culture.html

    Le Pew has already been canceled from the latest remake of “Space Jam”.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @anon


    iSteve content generator Charles Blow in his hit piece on Seuss / Geisel also determined that Pepe Le Pew normalized rape culture.
     
    So black males (Black!) are big fans of Pepe Le Pew?

    Who knew?
  46. @Jack D
    @Achmed E. Newman

    It's not at all unbelievable that Herriot's mom was a Black Muslim, regardless of the state of race relations in S. Carolina in the '70s and '80s. Black Muslims are mostly concentrated in the big northern ghettos but they are not unknown in S. Carolina. I have no reason to disbelieve Herriot on this. It destroys your own credibility when you falsely accuse someone of lying and then they are able to prove that they were being completely truthful, so I suggest that you not make such accusations lightly.

    There are some black tall tales (e.g. Althea Bernstein) that are self-refuting but this doesn't strike me as one of them. The ones that are most unbelievable tend to emanate mostly from females (and from feminine gay men). What % of "hate hoax" stories feature straight male protagonists?

    What you or a neutral observer would consider to be negative images of black people, and what a fanatical Black Muslim would consider to be negative, are two different things.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Burn_the_Witch, @Matt Buckalew, @Adam Smith

    This is one of the most bat shit responses I’ve seen on this site- a site that could have supplied enough saltpeter to fight the Napoleonic Wars twice over. When a VJ starts feeling themselves look out. He implies nothing about his religious upbringing and he’s right 1970s and 80s were the height of racial paternalism in the south. Wealthy whites had built five layers of insulation around themselves against black misbehavior and were extremely interested in showing the rest of the country that the south had moved on.

    John Thompson and Lebron would be two off the head examples of hate hoaxes perpetrated by straight black men though I imagine Lebron has dabbled in the dark arts so to speak.

    • Replies: @northeast
    @Matt Buckalew

    Racial paternalism was/is the only logical way to deal with blacks for white people.

  47. “Last real Negus”

    Negus is the Amharic word for King. The Emperor of Ethiopia was called “Negusa Negast,” meaning “King of Kings.”

    The last Negusa Negast, Haile Selassie, ended up suffocated in 1975 by Haile Mengistu Mariam, who, despite his name, was very likely descended from the black slaves of the haughty Amhara. The corpse was then stuffed under a latrine. It stayed there until 2000.

    If black Americans only knew the true history of Ethiopia, they’d be mighty disappointed.

  48. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack D

    I didn't want to cut the guy off in mid-sentence, Jack. Here's the part that is BS. (I should know too - won't get into detail.):


    ... to shield us from negative images of Black people, a seemingly impossible task for someone raising children in 1970s and ’80s South Carolina.
     
    There was no world of negative images of black people in the late '70s and early '80s, not in rural S. Carolina and not in urban S. Carolina. This guy is full of shit with that.

    As I wrote, that period was one of the best periods of race relations, at least in the South. Black people did not have the entitlement mentality as today, and white people gave them a chance. (Not to the point of living in the same areas and going to church together, of course.)

    The disagreement was not over his writer's Mom being a black Moslem. As the title says, she was a racist crank, and so's the son.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Paperback Writer, @Dan Smith

    The disagreement was not over his writer’s Mom being a black Moslem.

    You were unclear about that. Your comment, to me, read that you doubted the truthfulness of Herriot’s account because his mother was a Black Muslim and he grew up in S. Carolina.

    If his Mom was really a big fan of Malcolm X and she canceled Christmas, than he didn’t grow up a normal churchgoing black kid in S. Carolina. He grew up with a freak of a Mom and hence turned out to be a freak too. There’s a lot of work out there for freaks now, though…

    Huh? The whole article is frank about the fact that he didn’t grow up as a normal churchgoing black kid in S. Carolina. He’s not covering up his freakishness, he’s preening it and telling the world it’s a great thing. What, exactly are you pointing out, that you should hit the ball with the bat?

    The notable thing here is that the middle-of-the-road liberal Atlantic publishes this shit. Harper’s, a far more radical magazine, would never do this. Nor would wsws.org, whose class obsession protects them from this.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Paperback Writer

    The 2nd paragraph is indeed a repeat of Mr. Sailer's post title, as I noted in a quick correction. You're right I didn't need that. That doesn't change the 1st paragraph.

  49. @Jack D
    @Achmed E. Newman

    To his mother, "negative images of Black people" meant ANY images that portrayed white people as anything other than devils and did not feature blacks in 100% of the heroic roles. She was surely not up on the obscure racist sins of Seuss that have recently been uncovered (and which don't even concern blacks - the offensive caricature in Mulberry St. is a Chinaman).

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Luzzatto, @The Truth

    I’m not going to go back & read the article again, but it said that his mother regularly censored images that had whites at all. So it’s worse than what you say.

  50. Show of hands please. How many people believe that story about 8 year old Michael being caught with a contraband book he had smuggled into the home and hidden?
    As has been often pointed out, a display of real power is when you can concoct the most ludicrous lies and confidently expect that everyone will pretend to believe them.

    • Replies: @Bugg
    @Alfa158

    I'll take "$500 for Things That Never Happened", Alex! Much like the poet laureate extending her 15 minutes of Def Jam poetry nonsense fame with her concocted tale of racist harassment, this has become an industry for woke Blacks. .

    , @Jack D
    @Alfa158

    As I mention to Achmed, unless the story is truly unbelievable on its face (e.g. Jussie Smollett) it doesn't pay to have your critique turn on whether the incident really happened or not. If it's not impossible or close to impossible that it happened and you are never going to be able to produce proof that it didn't happen, then you have nothing to gain by calling him a liar. To me at least, this is a particularly ineffective form of counterargument. There are plenty of ways to critique Harriot's POV without calling him an outright liar.

    Whether or not young Michael was smuggling Dr. Seuss books into his house, his mother's reason for banning them had absolutely nothing do with the Current Year reasons for cancelling these books. Her reasons were crazy and today's reasons are also crazy, but they are a different kind of crazy.

    There is a unifying factor though in that both sets of reasons are a type of anti-White. It does speak to the insanity of the Current Year that, rather than trying to disassociate the Current Year crazy anti-Whitism from the equally (but differently) crazy anti-Whitism of Elijah Muhammed, he is PROUD of the connection - his mother was anti-White before being anti-White was cool!

    Replies: @Luzzatto

    , @ThreeCranes
    @Alfa158

    From the article in the Atlantic: "The book that got me in trouble wasn’t even mine. My youngest sister, Robin, had received it as a gift. But knowing that it was forbidden, my sisters placed it in my care because they were younger and I was the sibling most skilled at hiding things."

    Mama, "Mikey, where you get this book?"

    Mikey, "Little sister got it."

    "Wherefrom?"

    "Someone give it to her."

    "Who done it?"

    "I dunno."

    "Well this here is whipepo's book. I don wantchew readin this stuff."

    "Why not, Mama?"

    "Cause it ain written by Brother Malcolm, that's whynot."

    "Okay Mama."

    "Don be bringing that whytrash stuff in this house."

    "Yes Mama."

    And so a NYTimes journalist is born.

    , @Adam Smith
    @Alfa158


    a display of real power is when you can concoct the most ludicrous lies and confidently expect that everyone will pretend to believe them.
     
    I've been noticing a whole lot of this lately.
    Thank you for summing it up so nicely.

  51. @Alfa158
    Show of hands please. How many people believe that story about 8 year old Michael being caught with a contraband book he had smuggled into the home and hidden?
    As has been often pointed out, a display of real power is when you can concoct the most ludicrous lies and confidently expect that everyone will pretend to believe them.

    Replies: @Bugg, @Jack D, @ThreeCranes, @Adam Smith

    I’ll take “$500 for Things That Never Happened”, Alex! Much like the poet laureate extending her 15 minutes of Def Jam poetry nonsense fame with her concocted tale of racist harassment, this has become an industry for woke Blacks. .

  52. @black sea
    I wonder what his father's policy on Dr. Seuss was . . . and so does he.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Gary in Gramercy

    I can’t bring myself to read an entire article by a self-confessed “master race-baiter” (Steve’s right: that one multilevel pun proves the guy’s funny), but are you implying Papa was a rolling stone?

  53. I can’t bring myself to read an entire article by a self-confessed “master race-baiter” “race master-baiter”.

    FIFY

  54. anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:

    Apparently, there’s more than one racist floating around in our great nation.

    I myself have hit the wall, but I wonder how much longer other non-black americans will begin suffering from “black fatigue”? That thing where you absolutely zone out anytime you see a black person at work, or in the media in any capacity.

    That feeling of quietly, patiently waiting for something to stop talking, and/or just go away?

    The madness of Hamilton… single-handedly killing Star Trek… multi-racial commercials telling me to buy Tide… please, just stop talking, and/or go away. I’m not going to hire you. I’m not going to rent to you. I’m not going to buy anything from you. I don’t care about you anymore. I’m not helping you.

    Go away. Go away… Go away…..

    • Replies: @mc23
    @anonymous

    My wife has worked in retail for years, This past year she has been told several times by disgruntled customers "Your treating me this way because I am black".

    She's never heard this line before. Nothing has come of it so far but there's really no defense against this sort of accusation. It will be a handy way for new management to destroy white staff and bring in co-ethnics/ people of color. White Privilege means you underestimate how tribal people are.

  55. @Alfa158
    Show of hands please. How many people believe that story about 8 year old Michael being caught with a contraband book he had smuggled into the home and hidden?
    As has been often pointed out, a display of real power is when you can concoct the most ludicrous lies and confidently expect that everyone will pretend to believe them.

    Replies: @Bugg, @Jack D, @ThreeCranes, @Adam Smith

    As I mention to Achmed, unless the story is truly unbelievable on its face (e.g. Jussie Smollett) it doesn’t pay to have your critique turn on whether the incident really happened or not. If it’s not impossible or close to impossible that it happened and you are never going to be able to produce proof that it didn’t happen, then you have nothing to gain by calling him a liar. To me at least, this is a particularly ineffective form of counterargument. There are plenty of ways to critique Harriot’s POV without calling him an outright liar.

    Whether or not young Michael was smuggling Dr. Seuss books into his house, his mother’s reason for banning them had absolutely nothing do with the Current Year reasons for cancelling these books. Her reasons were crazy and today’s reasons are also crazy, but they are a different kind of crazy.

    There is a unifying factor though in that both sets of reasons are a type of anti-White. It does speak to the insanity of the Current Year that, rather than trying to disassociate the Current Year crazy anti-Whitism from the equally (but differently) crazy anti-Whitism of Elijah Muhammed, he is PROUD of the connection – his mother was anti-White before being anti-White was cool!

    • Replies: @Luzzatto
    @Jack D

    Anti-White became a mainstream position after George Zimmerman's encounter with Trayvon Martin. That was the butterfly effect that really got the snow ball rolling!

  56. “A Black person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of whiteness,” she explained.

    It sounds like his mom is a segregationist.

  57. “A Black person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of whiteness,” she explained.

    I once again stand in awe of the power of Whiteness. Still, this is not quite up to the level of “White silence is white violence,” a super power that allows me to sit in comfort, or even lay in bed, and still oppress minorities without having to lift a finger.

    I grew up in South Carolina in the 60’s and 70’s, where integration began the year I entered 1st grade, so I never knew anything else. I got along fine with nearly every black person I met in school until 7th grade. All through junior high there would be at least one big race throw-down a year, but this stopped in high school. Something about that age, I guess.

    Desegregation in South Carolina went off with hardly a hitch, and there were no big race riots, nor general violence at all. There were plenty of marches, demonstrations, and counter demonstrations on both sides, but little to no actual violence. Politicians and business elites came together and decided it was time to desegregate, and kill Jim Crow. While most whites strongly opposed and resisted integration, “they rejected street violence, as they rejected the Ku Klux Klan in the 1920’s.” (Edgar; South Carolina, a History)

    Did that mean race relations were fine, and everybody was happy? Why no, of course not. Whites and blacks in this state have too long, and troubled a history with each other for that to ever occur. I would say race relations were at their zenith in the 80’s and 90’s, and have fallen off quite a bit since then.

    Off the bat I wouldn’t consider Harriot’s story incredible, but as it’s his business to stir the race pot, it’s exaggerated, at least.

  58. Harriot, the author of “The 5 Types of Becky” is actually pretty funny, but he’s also a huge racist.

    “The 5 Types of Becky” is both funny, and racist, like Mickey Rooney in “Breakfast at Tiffany’s”.

    Maybe Harriot should go on tour with Sam Hyde.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Not Raul





    Mickey Rooney in “Breakfast at Tiffany’s”.
     
    Not funny at all. Ultimate Cringe.

    Replies: @would smashionalist, @AceDeuce

  59. @Jack D

    A few years ago, I asked my mother why she put so much effort into concocting this Black-free cocoon. She informed me that our childhood was part of an experiment she had envisioned before we were even born. “A White person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of blackness,” she explained. Not a single day has passed since in which I have not thought about that sentence.
     

    Replies: @Wade Hampton, @J.Ross, @Paperback Writer

    If a traditionalist agreed with Mr. Harriot’s progressive mother, that blacks need to be with blacks and by extension whites with whites (just as in your hypothetical), he would surely be condemned as a racist.

    Is this a philosophical version of prohibited language, where rappers can use a word in every line of their “poetry” that if a traditionalist used he would be cast into the outer darkness?

    Traditionalists and progressives can’t use the same words. Apparently, traditionalists and progressives can’t think the same thoughts. The future looks pretty bleak.

  60. @Alfa158
    Show of hands please. How many people believe that story about 8 year old Michael being caught with a contraband book he had smuggled into the home and hidden?
    As has been often pointed out, a display of real power is when you can concoct the most ludicrous lies and confidently expect that everyone will pretend to believe them.

    Replies: @Bugg, @Jack D, @ThreeCranes, @Adam Smith

    From the article in the Atlantic: “The book that got me in trouble wasn’t even mine. My youngest sister, Robin, had received it as a gift. But knowing that it was forbidden, my sisters placed it in my care because they were younger and I was the sibling most skilled at hiding things.”

    Mama, “Mikey, where you get this book?”

    Mikey, “Little sister got it.”

    “Wherefrom?”

    “Someone give it to her.”

    “Who done it?”

    “I dunno.”

    “Well this here is whipepo’s book. I don wantchew readin this stuff.”

    “Why not, Mama?”

    “Cause it ain written by Brother Malcolm, that’s whynot.”

    “Okay Mama.”

    “Don be bringing that whytrash stuff in this house.”

    “Yes Mama.”

    And so a NYTimes journalist is born.

  61. @Jack D
    @Achmed E. Newman

    It's not at all unbelievable that Herriot's mom was a Black Muslim, regardless of the state of race relations in S. Carolina in the '70s and '80s. Black Muslims are mostly concentrated in the big northern ghettos but they are not unknown in S. Carolina. I have no reason to disbelieve Herriot on this. It destroys your own credibility when you falsely accuse someone of lying and then they are able to prove that they were being completely truthful, so I suggest that you not make such accusations lightly.

    There are some black tall tales (e.g. Althea Bernstein) that are self-refuting but this doesn't strike me as one of them. The ones that are most unbelievable tend to emanate mostly from females (and from feminine gay men). What % of "hate hoax" stories feature straight male protagonists?

    What you or a neutral observer would consider to be negative images of black people, and what a fanatical Black Muslim would consider to be negative, are two different things.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Burn_the_Witch, @Matt Buckalew, @Adam Smith

    Bubba Wallace is gay?

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Adam Smith

    No, but I can only think of one gay male hate hoax, though it was the most famous. It is a female thing, especially female academics and ugly young women.

    “Famous crime victim” is not appealing to male brains. Even Jussie’s hate hoax involved him fighting off multiple klansmen, not any real injury.

    Replies: @Adam Smith

  62. @Alfa158
    Show of hands please. How many people believe that story about 8 year old Michael being caught with a contraband book he had smuggled into the home and hidden?
    As has been often pointed out, a display of real power is when you can concoct the most ludicrous lies and confidently expect that everyone will pretend to believe them.

    Replies: @Bugg, @Jack D, @ThreeCranes, @Adam Smith

    a display of real power is when you can concoct the most ludicrous lies and confidently expect that everyone will pretend to believe them.

    I’ve been noticing a whole lot of this lately.
    Thank you for summing it up so nicely.

  63. @Jack D
    @Achmed E. Newman

    To his mother, "negative images of Black people" meant ANY images that portrayed white people as anything other than devils and did not feature blacks in 100% of the heroic roles. She was surely not up on the obscure racist sins of Seuss that have recently been uncovered (and which don't even concern blacks - the offensive caricature in Mulberry St. is a Chinaman).

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Luzzatto, @The Truth

    Democrats can shift the blame from Donald Trump to Dr. Seuss’s books on Chinamen for Black on Asian violence because Black Thugs love to read books!

  64. @Jack D
    @Alfa158

    As I mention to Achmed, unless the story is truly unbelievable on its face (e.g. Jussie Smollett) it doesn't pay to have your critique turn on whether the incident really happened or not. If it's not impossible or close to impossible that it happened and you are never going to be able to produce proof that it didn't happen, then you have nothing to gain by calling him a liar. To me at least, this is a particularly ineffective form of counterargument. There are plenty of ways to critique Harriot's POV without calling him an outright liar.

    Whether or not young Michael was smuggling Dr. Seuss books into his house, his mother's reason for banning them had absolutely nothing do with the Current Year reasons for cancelling these books. Her reasons were crazy and today's reasons are also crazy, but they are a different kind of crazy.

    There is a unifying factor though in that both sets of reasons are a type of anti-White. It does speak to the insanity of the Current Year that, rather than trying to disassociate the Current Year crazy anti-Whitism from the equally (but differently) crazy anti-Whitism of Elijah Muhammed, he is PROUD of the connection - his mother was anti-White before being anti-White was cool!

    Replies: @Luzzatto

    Anti-White became a mainstream position after George Zimmerman’s encounter with Trayvon Martin. That was the butterfly effect that really got the snow ball rolling!

  65. ” “A Black person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of whiteness,” she explained.”
    Um, that being the case, may I suggest….

  66. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack D

    I didn't want to cut the guy off in mid-sentence, Jack. Here's the part that is BS. (I should know too - won't get into detail.):


    ... to shield us from negative images of Black people, a seemingly impossible task for someone raising children in 1970s and ’80s South Carolina.
     
    There was no world of negative images of black people in the late '70s and early '80s, not in rural S. Carolina and not in urban S. Carolina. This guy is full of shit with that.

    As I wrote, that period was one of the best periods of race relations, at least in the South. Black people did not have the entitlement mentality as today, and white people gave them a chance. (Not to the point of living in the same areas and going to church together, of course.)

    The disagreement was not over his writer's Mom being a black Moslem. As the title says, she was a racist crank, and so's the son.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Paperback Writer, @Dan Smith

    I lived in Charleston 1964-68, attended Porter-Gaud School (major elitist private school) for two years until I got shipped North to a communist run progressive school in Vermont. Talk about cognitive dissonance! The overwhelming sentiment among whites in Charleston was one of paternalistic racist claptrap. Nobody believed blacks wanted anything but status quo. At the same time, the Upcountry KKK types were despised as ignorant white trash. By the way, I learned recently Stephen Colbert graduated from PG. Wonder what his pedigree is?

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Dan Smith

    “ Colbert graduated from PG. Wonder what his pedigree is?”

    A French surname in the old non-LA South usually indicates someone is mostly British stock but has a Huguenot patrilineal ancestor.

    The map here shows 3/4 of the dixie-bound ships arriving in SC.

    https://www.americantapestry.net/2018/06/04/the-huguenot-immigrants/

  67. She informed me that our childhood was part of an experiment . . .

    And all the world can see the results.

  68. Openly black? Openly something else probably. A Lee Daniels type racist, so to speak.

  69. Keep throwing light on ALL the whoppers in The Atlantic. They are A-1 when it comes to shooting themselves in the foot.

    It goes back at least a century and a half. In 1869 — it was called The Atlantic Monthly then — they ran an expose of Lord Byron’s private life in order to discredit him so young folk wouldn’t read him and admire him so much.

    Result: The kids were more fascinated with Lord Byron than ever. When their parents found out, the cancellations climbed to 15,000.

    The author of this 19th century hit piece was Harriet Beecher Stowe. No kidding. “There’s no such thing as bad publicity” is a quip that hadn’t been made yet. You’d think Harriet would have known that anyway. She did start a war after all.

    Britannica even mentions the Harriet/Lord Byron tussle.

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Atlantic-Monthly

  70. @Jack D
    @Achmed E. Newman

    To his mother, "negative images of Black people" meant ANY images that portrayed white people as anything other than devils and did not feature blacks in 100% of the heroic roles. She was surely not up on the obscure racist sins of Seuss that have recently been uncovered (and which don't even concern blacks - the offensive caricature in Mulberry St. is a Chinaman).

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Luzzatto, @The Truth

    Absolutely correct. Blacks are the thoroughbred racists. And by racist I mean the correct meaning of the word. The correct meaning of the word racist is NOT liking or loving or preferring etc. your own kind over others. Racism is the exclusive property of blacks because they base ALL OF THEIR DECISIONS ON RACE IRREGUARDLESS OF TRUTH OR FACTS! There are many examples. I’ll just give one. O.J. Simpson. Does anyone recall when that verdict was read and the news cameras caught ALL of the gory details of the TRUTH about black people? Remember ALL the black people jumping and shouting for JOY over that BLACK man getting off scot free after stabbing to death those two white people? That is racism. In it’s purest form. Now I remember seeing a “famous” picture of I think it was two blacks hung outside on a tree after the white people stormed the jail and took those innocent, murderous, “little angels” out of jail and hung them. What the picture doesn’t tell you is the fact that they let another black boy, that was arrested with the other two, go because he was innocent of the crime. Now, that’s not racism. That’s JUSTICE. If that crowd of white people were actually racists they would have hung the innocent boy along with the guilty, murderous “little angels.” But they didn’t. That’s not racism. That’s justice. The white people stuck to the facts and black people NEVER DO!

  71. @Paperback Writer
    @Achmed E. Newman


    The disagreement was not over his writer’s Mom being a black Moslem.

     

    You were unclear about that. Your comment, to me, read that you doubted the truthfulness of Herriot's account because his mother was a Black Muslim and he grew up in S. Carolina.

    If his Mom was really a big fan of Malcolm X and she canceled Christmas, than he didn’t grow up a normal churchgoing black kid in S. Carolina. He grew up with a freak of a Mom and hence turned out to be a freak too. There’s a lot of work out there for freaks now, though…
     
    Huh? The whole article is frank about the fact that he didn't grow up as a normal churchgoing black kid in S. Carolina. He's not covering up his freakishness, he's preening it and telling the world it's a great thing. What, exactly are you pointing out, that you should hit the ball with the bat?

    The notable thing here is that the middle-of-the-road liberal Atlantic publishes this shit. Harper's, a far more radical magazine, would never do this. Nor would wsws.org, whose class obsession protects them from this.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    The 2nd paragraph is indeed a repeat of Mr. Sailer’s post title, as I noted in a quick correction. You’re right I didn’t need that. That doesn’t change the 1st paragraph.

  72. @bomag

    “A Black person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of whiteness,”
     
    Game, set, match.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @AceDeuce, @James Forrestal

    So… segregation is The Answer?

  73. Herriot might have realized how much damage Moms had done to him, were he not surrounded every day since by self-loathing whites and the Jews who taught them.

    Atlantic staffer: Dude, your mom is AWESOME!

    Herriot: Burn in hell forever, white devil motherf**ker.

    Atlantic: Awww yeah….that’s the stuff!

    What I question is how such an individual can justify calling himself a “wypipo-ologist”, but of course I’m failing to incorporate the New New Maff, in which any sum arrived at that fails to correctly add up is simply yet another case of cracka-ass supremaciss bullshit.

    Speaking of maff, I can’t help but wonder what happens to once-mighty nations when they change everything they do and say and believe – including science and arithmetic – in order to avoid offending useless parasites prone to violence and unrest. Probably not a great idea to first ensure that half your military and law enforcement are comprised of such parasites; but, in any event, should you arrive at the correct answer, for God’s sake whatever you do DON’T show your work, or we’ll all be cancelled.

    • LOL: Captain Tripps
  74. @Luzzatto
    Dr. Seuss has his own line of t-shirts. Now that Dr. Seuss has been Cancel Cultured, wearing a Dr. Seuss t-shirt would be the equivalent of wearing a MAGA t-shirt and random Democrat strangers on the streets would most likely try to commit violence against you if you wore a Dr. Seuss t-shirt out in public in Portland, Oregon for example!

    Replies: @Possumman, @James Forrestal

    Howsabout a Dr. Seuss t-shirt with a Aloha shirt unbuttoned over it to cover your holster?

  75. @Tiny Duck
    I'll bet you he has had WAY MORE sex with white girls than all the "men" here combined

    That tells you something right there

    Replies: @fish, @Muggles, @JimB, @MEH 0910, @Reg Cæsar

    ……sigh. I’m bored.

  76. We can make Dr. Seuss books inclusive if we just reimagine them. For instance, food insecurity and food deserts leads to less healthy choices as in “Green Eggs and Ham.” Need to respect the pimp on the corner ? “Cat in the Cat.” Learn to listen to all members of the community, including ladies of ill repute…”Horton hears a Ho.” I’m tired, this shit wears me out.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Buffalo Joe


    if we just reimagine them. For instance, food insecurity and food deserts leads to less healthy choices as in “Green Eggs and Ham.”
     
    On the Greg Gutfeld show Saturday they had a funny satire on the Woke Dr. Seuss hysteria. Imagining secret titles to be upset about.

    One was "Green Eggs and Hitler." One not mentioned was "Horton Wears a Hawaiian Shirt.."

    Time for more book burnings...

  77. This article reminded me of a running argument I have with my wife about the film, Life is Beautiful. She thinks it’s a lovely, heart-warming story about the lengths a father will go to shield his son from the evil situation they are in.

    I argue that the story is awful. The father is not helping his son by lying about their circumstances. He should have been equipping his son to recognize the dangers around them.
    My wife thinks my assessment of the movie is very negative. I realize I have a tendency to be rather dark. I think my take is quite realistic.

    This guy’s story, whether true or not, is as ridiculous as the premise of the aforementioned movie.

  78. Ah, guys, we are being trolled. Harriot is a Senior Writer at the “Root” web site. Single most racist site on the internet,

    • Replies: @anon
    @Buffalo Joe

    Harriot is a Senior Writer at the “Root” web site

    Yes, he sure is. Perhaps that is why the Atlantic gave him some space? Or maybe Tadah Yeezy Coates is too passe' now?

    "In your face" is not the same thing as "trolling".

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Buffalo Joe

    You're not being trolled. Your culture is being taken over and you're being destroyed.

    , @wren
    @Buffalo Joe

    IIRC, The Root was started by Donald Graham and Jacob Weisberg. They brought Henry Louis Gates in after they had decided what they wanted to do.

    In my mind it's kinda like Stan Lee and Jacob Kurtzberg creating The Black Panther and Wakanda.

    Replies: @wren

    , @James Forrestal
    @Buffalo Joe


    Ah, guys, we are being trolled. Harriot is a Senior Writer at the “Root” web site. Single most "r****t" [presumably you mean "anti-White"] site on the internet,
     
    The Root is a subsidiary of Univision, the largest provider of Spanish language content in the US:

    https://corporate.univision.com/blog/portfolio/properties/the-root/

    So a bunch of Mexicans own a [virulently anti-White] Black blog?

    Well, not really. From 2007 until last year, Univision was owned by a group of investors led by Haim Saban -- an Israeli-American dual citizen, open-borders fanatic, major Dem donor... and uber-Zionist.

    Univision was sold last year to a consortium led by Eric Zinterhofer -- son-in-law of Ronald Lauder, president of the World Jewish Congress.

    Every. Single. Time.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  79. @Tiny Duck
    I'll bet you he has had WAY MORE sex with white girls than all the "men" here combined

    That tells you something right there

    Replies: @fish, @Muggles, @JimB, @MEH 0910, @Reg Cæsar

    I’ll bet you he has had WAY MORE sex with white girls than all the “men” here combined

    That tells you something right there

    What this tells us is that the now returned ‘Tiny Duck’ here is full of racist stereotypes. But only the ‘good’ kind.

    And here we thought Biden’s stolen election would make you go away…

  80. @Buffalo Joe
    Ah, guys, we are being trolled. Harriot is a Senior Writer at the "Root" web site. Single most racist site on the internet,

    Replies: @anon, @Paperback Writer, @wren, @James Forrestal

    Harriot is a Senior Writer at the “Root” web site

    Yes, he sure is. Perhaps that is why the Atlantic gave him some space? Or maybe Tadah Yeezy Coates is too passe’ now?

    “In your face” is not the same thing as “trolling”.

  81. @anon
    By the way, reliable iSteve content generator Charles Blow in his hit piece on Seuss / Geisel also determined that Pepe Le Pew normalized rape culture. We didn't really get around to that part.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9334187/NYT-publishes-column-claiming-Looney-Tunes-character-Pepe-Le-Pew-normalized-rape-culture.html

    Le Pew has already been canceled from the latest remake of "Space Jam".

    Replies: @Muggles

    iSteve content generator Charles Blow in his hit piece on Seuss / Geisel also determined that Pepe Le Pew normalized rape culture.

    So black males (Black!) are big fans of Pepe Le Pew?

    Who knew?

  82. I only just noticed that the name of the article is “In Our House, Dr. Seuss Was Contraband” —

    Contraband is maybe the only fun part of a war.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @Paperback Writer

    How about the rape? What did Slim Pickens’ character say in Blazing Saddles?

  83. @Buffalo Joe
    We can make Dr. Seuss books inclusive if we just reimagine them. For instance, food insecurity and food deserts leads to less healthy choices as in "Green Eggs and Ham." Need to respect the pimp on the corner ? "Cat in the Cat." Learn to listen to all members of the community, including ladies of ill repute..."Horton hears a Ho." I'm tired, this shit wears me out.

    Replies: @Muggles

    if we just reimagine them. For instance, food insecurity and food deserts leads to less healthy choices as in “Green Eggs and Ham.”

    On the Greg Gutfeld show Saturday they had a funny satire on the Woke Dr. Seuss hysteria. Imagining secret titles to be upset about.

    One was “Green Eggs and Hitler.” One not mentioned was “Horton Wears a Hawaiian Shirt..”

    Time for more book burnings…

  84. @Buffalo Joe
    Ah, guys, we are being trolled. Harriot is a Senior Writer at the "Root" web site. Single most racist site on the internet,

    Replies: @anon, @Paperback Writer, @wren, @James Forrestal

    You’re not being trolled. Your culture is being taken over and you’re being destroyed.

  85. @Gamecock
    'But the real issue, I soon learned, was that Dr. Seuss was on our family’s list of banned authors—for precisely the reason that the famous children’s book author is in the news this week: Some of his works portrayed nonwhite people in a racist way.'

    Avoiding the ugliness of the world does not prepare you for handling it. His mother raised him poorly.

    The root method of Cultural Marxist hegemony is accommodating/pushing mental illness. Neurosis, personality disorder, and paranoia are the tools of the trade.

    'Some of his works portrayed nonwhite people in a racist way.'

    Whah! Whah!

    Avoiding/banning is NOT a solution. Sticks & stones.

    I submit that anyone who says, "in a racist way," isn't stable.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    ‘Some of his works portrayed nonwhite people in a racist way.’

    Now why you criticizing Black Fragility?

  86. @Not Raul

    Harriot, the author of “The 5 Types of Becky” is actually pretty funny, but he’s also a huge racist.
     
    “The 5 Types of Becky” is both funny, and racist, like Mickey Rooney in “Breakfast at Tiffany’s”.

    Maybe Harriot should go on tour with Sam Hyde.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    Mickey Rooney in “Breakfast at Tiffany’s”.

    Not funny at all. Ultimate Cringe.

    • Replies: @would smashionalist
    @HammerJack

    Mickey Rooney was always funny, whether he meant to be or not. He's the only enjoyable part of that very gay and awful movie.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    , @AceDeuce
    @HammerJack

    Give me a break. Do you also cringe at the portrayal of Inspector Clouseau? After all, it's the same thing--a non-French actor portraying an imaginary French police officer as a clownish idiot.

    Oh, the humanity!

  87. His pen is mightier than your sword.

    He hasn’t seen our sword. He’s only imagined it in his mind. And read about it in books written by other people who’ve only imagined it.

  88. @Adam Smith
    @Jack D

    Bubba Wallace is gay?

    Replies: @Lot

    No, but I can only think of one gay male hate hoax, though it was the most famous. It is a female thing, especially female academics and ugly young women.

    “Famous crime victim” is not appealing to male brains. Even Jussie’s hate hoax involved him fighting off multiple klansmen, not any real injury.

  89. @Tiny Duck
    I'll bet you he has had WAY MORE sex with white girls than all the "men" here combined

    That tells you something right there

    Replies: @fish, @Muggles, @JimB, @MEH 0910, @Reg Cæsar

    I’ll bet you he has had WAY MORE sex with white girls than all the “men” here combined

    That tells you something right there

    That he’s a sex offender?

    • LOL: Alfa158
    • Replies: @JMcG
    @JimB

    Why do black guys have bloodshot eyes after sex?


    The pepper spray.

  90. @Dan Smith
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I lived in Charleston 1964-68, attended Porter-Gaud School (major elitist private school) for two years until I got shipped North to a communist run progressive school in Vermont. Talk about cognitive dissonance! The overwhelming sentiment among whites in Charleston was one of paternalistic racist claptrap. Nobody believed blacks wanted anything but status quo. At the same time, the Upcountry KKK types were despised as ignorant white trash. By the way, I learned recently Stephen Colbert graduated from PG. Wonder what his pedigree is?

    Replies: @Lot

    “ Colbert graduated from PG. Wonder what his pedigree is?”

    A French surname in the old non-LA South usually indicates someone is mostly British stock but has a Huguenot patrilineal ancestor.

    The map here shows 3/4 of the dixie-bound ships arriving in SC.

    https://www.americantapestry.net/2018/06/04/the-huguenot-immigrants/

  91. My mother went to… enormous lengths to shield us from negative images of Black people, a seemingly impossible task for someone raising children in 1970s and ’80s South Carolina.

    It was a seemingly impossible task because negative images of black people come from actually being exposed to black people and there are (and were at the relevant time) a lot of black people in South Carolina.

    It would have been a much easier task in Vermont or Idaho.

  92. “The 5 Types of Becky”

    Why did Becky change to Karen?

    • Replies: @Ragno
    @George

    Because every third "Becky" is a (((Rebecca))).

  93. So write a book called green collards and blackened ribs?

    I really don’t care if Black people want to raise their kids in an all Black environment. In fact they are probably better off not watching tv.

    I just don’t see how this qualifies as an article.

    There is also an extreme double standard here.

    What if someone wrote an article on how to raise children in an all White environment?

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @John Johnson



    What if someone wrote an article on how to raise children in an all White environment?
     
    That would imply that some parents are interested in the upbringing and well-being of their children, and there's nothing more white supremacist than that.
  94. @whahae
    Actually pretty funny and a huge racist?

    Ron should offer him a weekly column on Unz, he'd fit right in.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    Ron should offer him a weekly column on Unz, he’d fit right in.

    The comments would be spectacular!

  95. @Achmed E. Newman

    My mother went to what I now realize were enormous lengths to shield us from negative images of Black people, a seemingly impossible task for someone raising children in 1970s and ’80s South Carolina.
     
    After that part, I wouldn't believe anything else from this Michael Harriot. In 1970s and '80 S. Carolina, race relations were in the best period they ever have been since that time and and the best since before the turmoil of the Civil Rites era. The only negative images of black people would have been in the heads of black and white people based solely on, well, negative things they'd seen in person about black people. It's not in Dr. Seuss books.

    If his Mom was really a big fan of Malcolm X and she canceled Christmas, than he didn't grow up a normal churchgoing black kid in S. Carolina. He grew up with a freak of a Mom and hence turned out to be a freak too. There's a lot of work out there for freaks now, though...

    Replies: @Luzzatto, @Luzzatto, @MarkU, @Jack D, @Altai, @Patrick McNally

    One part of his story which might be subject to investigation is whether or not he was raised as a Muslim. The tone of his writing reads like something meant to appeal to really dumb Christian (or perhaps “Churchian” in Mano-sphere lingo) audiences. But Malcolm X was a Muslim and if his mother really was this fervent follower of Malcolm X then he should be able to document an Islamic upbringing. Does he still believe in Allah today? Did he break from the Islamic teachings? If he claims that his mother raised him as anything else then his story can be discarded as pure hokum.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Patrick McNally

    Was Malcolm X a Muslim before his pilgrimage to Mecca and split with the Nation of Islam? In his "Autobiography," almost all references to "Muhammad" are to cult leader Elijah Muhammad, not to the 7th Century prophet.

    Replies: @Patrick McNally

  96. @Patrick McNally
    @Achmed E. Newman

    One part of his story which might be subject to investigation is whether or not he was raised as a Muslim. The tone of his writing reads like something meant to appeal to really dumb Christian (or perhaps "Churchian" in Mano-sphere lingo) audiences. But Malcolm X was a Muslim and if his mother really was this fervent follower of Malcolm X then he should be able to document an Islamic upbringing. Does he still believe in Allah today? Did he break from the Islamic teachings? If he claims that his mother raised him as anything else then his story can be discarded as pure hokum.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Was Malcolm X a Muslim before his pilgrimage to Mecca and split with the Nation of Islam? In his “Autobiography,” almost all references to “Muhammad” are to cult leader Elijah Muhammad, not to the 7th Century prophet.

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
    @Steve Sailer

    The autobiography was really written by Alex Haley and is focused on a general readership in what was regarded as a primarily Christian USA at the time of publication. However if you look at the Columbia University's webpage on The Life of Malcolm X they tell you that he converted to traditional Islam after breaking from the NOI and made his trip to Mecca in April 1964, acquiring the identity of El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz. He was a committed Muslim until the end.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @AceDeuce

  97. @Tiny Duck
    I'll bet you he has had WAY MORE sex with white girls than all the "men" here combined

    That tells you something right there

    Replies: @fish, @Muggles, @JimB, @MEH 0910, @Reg Cæsar

  98. @Steve Sailer
    @Patrick McNally

    Was Malcolm X a Muslim before his pilgrimage to Mecca and split with the Nation of Islam? In his "Autobiography," almost all references to "Muhammad" are to cult leader Elijah Muhammad, not to the 7th Century prophet.

    Replies: @Patrick McNally

    The autobiography was really written by Alex Haley and is focused on a general readership in what was regarded as a primarily Christian USA at the time of publication. However if you look at the Columbia University’s webpage on The Life of Malcolm X they tell you that he converted to traditional Islam after breaking from the NOI and made his trip to Mecca in April 1964, acquiring the identity of El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz. He was a committed Muslim until the end.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Patrick McNally

    At the end.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    , @AceDeuce
    @Patrick McNally

    Uh, yeah. That means that Malcolm the Tenth was a "committed Muslim" for about a whole 10-11 months, which he spent as a useful idiot for the powers that be in the Middle East..

    Regarding his former affiliation, one other poster mentioned the NOI, and said something about it being a strange cult. It is that, but know this: 99% of American negroes are part of it--de facto members.

    Replies: @Patrick McNally

  99. @Patrick McNally
    @Steve Sailer

    The autobiography was really written by Alex Haley and is focused on a general readership in what was regarded as a primarily Christian USA at the time of publication. However if you look at the Columbia University's webpage on The Life of Malcolm X they tell you that he converted to traditional Islam after breaking from the NOI and made his trip to Mecca in April 1964, acquiring the identity of El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz. He was a committed Muslim until the end.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @AceDeuce

    At the end.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Steve Sailer

    Right, before that he was NoI, which is a truly strange cult. No one has ever figured out who on earth Wallace Fard actually was.

    ******

    Michael Harriot thinks anyone who questions this is a racist, but I repeat myself. However, I've never seen anyone actually analyze the study in question. Has anyone ever done that? Have you?

    https://www.theroot.com/government-study-school-is-racist-1825014607

  100. • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @jamie b.

    I heard Steve Cortez on his Chicago radio program today defending the Speedy Gonzalez cartoon because he always defeated Sylvester the Cat and that other Hispanics felt the same way.

    https://twitter.com/CortesSteve/status/1368588785198526465
    https://twitter.com/Azul_Yellow/status/1368430624642658305
    https://twitter.com/lordvictor/status/1368311164510363653

    Replies: @James Forrestal

    , @res
    @jamie b.

    Link without the cryptic token.
    https://johnmcwhorter.substack.com/p/and-then-they-came-for-on-beyond

  101. “Harriot, the author of “The 5 Types of Becky” is actually pretty funny”

    Is he? As a cynical middle-aged white guy, I’m as prepared as anybody to laugh at the foibles of overly esteemed-up white ladies, so I read the linked article with an open mind. I was disappointed. I’m not even sure it’s supposed to be funny. Harriot identifies Becky as a type of shape-shifting demoness. Whether she takes the form of the self-deluding “nice” liberal, the sex-crazed black-dick-sucker slut, or that racist bitch who “lied on” little emit till and got him lynched, Becky is HURTING BLACK PEOPLE. It’s a serious charge, true or not, and you can tell he really means it. Which part made you laugh?

  102. @jamie b.
    Meanwhile, here's the response of a rational black...

    https://johnmcwhorter.substack.com/p/and-then-they-came-for-on-beyond?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxNjE0ODI0MywicG9zdF9pZCI6MzM0MDk1MDgsIl8iOiJZMVZLcCIsImlhdCI6MTYxNTI1MTY4MiwiZXhwIjoxNjE1MjU1MjgyLCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMjcyMjM0Iiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.s99uYAWD1AqprmJoNMRxpn7hblRILkoK1E3xS0LBV24

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @res

    I heard Steve Cortez on his Chicago radio program today defending the Speedy Gonzalez cartoon because he always defeated Sylvester the Cat and that other Hispanics felt the same way.

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
    @Joe Stalin

    I suppose people they complain about the other Mexican mice are portrayed in the cartoon, but I can see why the mestizos back Speedy -- he's fast, he's sharp/ outwits the other characters, and, unlike Pepe...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K74mfLwZ0G0

    Pepe Le Pew, on the other hand, is clearly an anti-Frenchitic (Francophobic?) stereotype... since his efforts all come to naught. He never gets the girl -- except maybe in this one.

    And of course, at the intersection of Speedy and Pepe, we have this mashup:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGY-8F7XxyQ

  103. @HammerJack
    @Not Raul





    Mickey Rooney in “Breakfast at Tiffany’s”.
     
    Not funny at all. Ultimate Cringe.

    Replies: @would smashionalist, @AceDeuce

    Mickey Rooney was always funny, whether he meant to be or not. He’s the only enjoyable part of that very gay and awful movie.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @would smashionalist

    Noah Millman:
    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/millman/my-favorite-mickey-rooney-performance/


    But a key anchor for the whole experience is Rooney’s performance as Floom, an aging, creepy clown.

    The key to that performance is its sincerity. There’s not a moment in which Rooney mugs, or trades off his persona, not a moment in which he solicits our sympathy. He is completely inside this terrifyingly remote and strange character, a man who has become the clown, who is no longer performing because he is never not performing.
     


    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/mickey-rooney-clown.jpg

    Replies: @would smashionalist, @MEH 0910

  104. @jamie b.
    Meanwhile, here's the response of a rational black...

    https://johnmcwhorter.substack.com/p/and-then-they-came-for-on-beyond?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxNjE0ODI0MywicG9zdF9pZCI6MzM0MDk1MDgsIl8iOiJZMVZLcCIsImlhdCI6MTYxNTI1MTY4MiwiZXhwIjoxNjE1MjU1MjgyLCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMjcyMjM0Iiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.s99uYAWD1AqprmJoNMRxpn7hblRILkoK1E3xS0LBV24

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @res

  105. @Steve Sailer
    @Patrick McNally

    At the end.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    Right, before that he was NoI, which is a truly strange cult. No one has ever figured out who on earth Wallace Fard actually was.

    ******

    Michael Harriot thinks anyone who questions this is a racist, but I repeat myself. However, I’ve never seen anyone actually analyze the study in question. Has anyone ever done that? Have you?

    https://www.theroot.com/government-study-school-is-racist-1825014607

  106. @Jack D

    A few years ago, I asked my mother why she put so much effort into concocting this Black-free cocoon. She informed me that our childhood was part of an experiment she had envisioned before we were even born. “A White person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of blackness,” she explained. Not a single day has passed since in which I have not thought about that sentence.
     

    Replies: @Wade Hampton, @J.Ross, @Paperback Writer

    But that version is actually true when you factor in the constant self-censorship, head-bowing, job losses, humiliating public spectacles, war against public safety, noisemaking, destroying of policy to accommodate the lowest common denominator, et cetera.

  107. I doubt “whiteness” was a word when he was 8.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Pontius


    I doubt “whiteness” was a word when he was 8.

     

    It troughed around that time, but it was bigger in the Era of Good Feelings than it is now.

    (Is it still OK to say "NGram"?)

    Replies: @James Forrestal

  108. @George
    “The 5 Types of Becky”

    Why did Becky change to Karen?

    Replies: @Ragno

    Because every third “Becky” is a (((Rebecca))).

  109. @Matt Buckalew
    @Jack D

    This is one of the most bat shit responses I’ve seen on this site- a site that could have supplied enough saltpeter to fight the Napoleonic Wars twice over. When a VJ starts feeling themselves look out. He implies nothing about his religious upbringing and he’s right 1970s and 80s were the height of racial paternalism in the south. Wealthy whites had built five layers of insulation around themselves against black misbehavior and were extremely interested in showing the rest of the country that the south had moved on.

    John Thompson and Lebron would be two off the head examples of hate hoaxes perpetrated by straight black men though I imagine Lebron has dabbled in the dark arts so to speak.

    Replies: @northeast

    Racial paternalism was/is the only logical way to deal with blacks for white people.

  110. @Mike Tre
    At first I was going to credit the Michael Harriot for his honesty. But then after reading I realized he is dishonest about why he is so. First of all, I do not believe his tale about the Dr. Seuss books in his home. That is a pure fabrication based on the current Seuss cancelling so that he can pretend his mother (no mention of pops) was some sort of visionary 40 years ahead of her time.

    "“A Black person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of whiteness,”"

    And here reveals the fundamental nature of black hatred for whites: Envy.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Yes, one of the bizarre tendencies with modern journalism is not understanding their topic. Not only do they not do any research, not only are they stone ignorant, but their work is an exposition of their ignorance. Seuss comes down to us in part because he’s widely beloved but also in part because he is (or was, last censorship round) “safe.” Major media permits us to remember him, for now. There’s plenty of authors, songs, toys, cartoons, etc. you are not permitted to remember, eg, the Mynah Bird cartoon, which depicts a primitive African child with a bone in his nose (and an Atlantic column about hair). We have to see the rolling nature of the censorship, how nothing is ever enough, and next time they will ask for what was safe before.
    So the mom censored a guy who was not considered racist by anyone and not more clearly racist books, some of which were massively famous?

    • Agree: Mike Tre
  111. @John Johnson
    So write a book called green collards and blackened ribs?

    I really don't care if Black people want to raise their kids in an all Black environment. In fact they are probably better off not watching tv.

    I just don't see how this qualifies as an article.

    There is also an extreme double standard here.

    What if someone wrote an article on how to raise children in an all White environment?

    Replies: @HammerJack

    What if someone wrote an article on how to raise children in an all White environment?

    That would imply that some parents are interested in the upbringing and well-being of their children, and there’s nothing more white supremacist than that.

  112. I grew up in South Carolina (Aiken) in the 50s and 60s. Integration started my last year of high school. The few blacks (Negroes then? – I can’t remember, but probably) at my school were curiosities. Segregation was a program of the adults; we kids weren’t involved. They all seemed to be just people.

    FF> 30 years to my son in parochial school. The black kids were just people. THEN, he went to public middle school and all changed. The treatment and handling of blacks went nuts. But, again, it was the adults in charge that did it, not the kids. Black kids were no longer just people. As with Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society, the adults were inflicting harm on blacks. Michael Harriot is inflicting harm on blacks today. And that’s the way it is.

  113. @anonymous
    Apparently, there's more than one racist floating around in our great nation.

    I myself have hit the wall, but I wonder how much longer other non-black americans will begin suffering from "black fatigue"? That thing where you absolutely zone out anytime you see a black person at work, or in the media in any capacity.

    That feeling of quietly, patiently waiting for something to stop talking, and/or just go away?

    The madness of Hamilton... single-handedly killing Star Trek... multi-racial commercials telling me to buy Tide... please, just stop talking, and/or go away. I'm not going to hire you. I'm not going to rent to you. I'm not going to buy anything from you. I don't care about you anymore. I'm not helping you.

    Go away. Go away... Go away.....

    https://twitter.com/AmyBeePhoenix/status/1367668793879781381?s=20

    Replies: @mc23

    My wife has worked in retail for years, This past year she has been told several times by disgruntled customers “Your treating me this way because I am black”.

    She’s never heard this line before. Nothing has come of it so far but there’s really no defense against this sort of accusation. It will be a handy way for new management to destroy white staff and bring in co-ethnics/ people of color. White Privilege means you underestimate how tribal people are.

  114. @would smashionalist
    @HammerJack

    Mickey Rooney was always funny, whether he meant to be or not. He's the only enjoyable part of that very gay and awful movie.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    Noah Millman:
    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/millman/my-favorite-mickey-rooney-performance/

    But a key anchor for the whole experience is Rooney’s performance as Floom, an aging, creepy clown.

    The key to that performance is its sincerity. There’s not a moment in which Rooney mugs, or trades off his persona, not a moment in which he solicits our sympathy. He is completely inside this terrifyingly remote and strange character, a man who has become the clown, who is no longer performing because he is never not performing.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @would smashionalist
    @MEH 0910

    Looks good! Thank you.

    , @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    Noah Millman:
    https://www.noahgmillman.com/about


    I am currently at work on a book, The Folio of This World, about Shakespeare and the Hebrew bible, portions of which have appeared in The American Conservative and The Jewish Review of Books.
     

    https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5b2ac52389c172f4682c7a30/1541694682974-QO0WFITO2AULSL22703N/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kK4jpgWFWkmtc5ruetgh6kIUqsxRUqqbr1mOJYKfIPR7LoDQ9mXPOjoJoqy81S2I8N_N4V1vUb5AoIIIbLZhVYxCRW4BPu10St3TBAUQYVKcmLeLYsxjqKLgnKCiR8emLmD6jX2UHm1qmda1yj9IIQYo7ieGY1Gz3SWKHkpOCOKo/Screen+Shot+2018-11-08+at+11.27.53+AM.png
  115. @Jack D

    A few years ago, I asked my mother why she put so much effort into concocting this Black-free cocoon. She informed me that our childhood was part of an experiment she had envisioned before we were even born. “A White person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of blackness,” she explained. Not a single day has passed since in which I have not thought about that sentence.
     

    Replies: @Wade Hampton, @J.Ross, @Paperback Writer

    Maybe your mother was right. Always watch your tongue around the help.

  116. @MEH 0910
    @would smashionalist

    Noah Millman:
    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/millman/my-favorite-mickey-rooney-performance/


    But a key anchor for the whole experience is Rooney’s performance as Floom, an aging, creepy clown.

    The key to that performance is its sincerity. There’s not a moment in which Rooney mugs, or trades off his persona, not a moment in which he solicits our sympathy. He is completely inside this terrifyingly remote and strange character, a man who has become the clown, who is no longer performing because he is never not performing.
     


    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/mickey-rooney-clown.jpg

    Replies: @would smashionalist, @MEH 0910

    Looks good! Thank you.

  117. @Tiny Duck
    I'll bet you he has had WAY MORE sex with white girls than all the "men" here combined

    That tells you something right there

    Replies: @fish, @Muggles, @JimB, @MEH 0910, @Reg Cæsar

    I’ll bet you he has had WAY MORE sex with white girls than all the “men” here combined

    The men here, or anywhere else outside the porn studio and the bathhouse, do not “combine” for sex. It’s the “one wee-wee rule” for us.

  118. @Pontius
    I doubt "whiteness" was a word when he was 8.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I doubt “whiteness” was a word when he was 8.

    It troughed around that time, but it was bigger in the Era of Good Feelings than it is now.

    (Is it still OK to say “NGram”?)

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
    @Reg Cæsar


    "I doubt “whiteness” was a word when he was 8."

    It troughed around that time, but it was bigger in the Era of Good Feelings than it is now.
     
    Though I kinda doubt that back in the 1800s they were using it in the current year jewsplaining/ CRT sense of "an invisible -- but totally real -- evil essence that tightly adheres to all goyim of European descent, causing them to be very mean to non-Whites and jews for no reason."

    That sense of "whiteness" is a relatively recent reificaton:

    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2015/06/12/jews-communists-and-genocidal-hate-in-whiteness-studies/

    Dr. Joyce points out that this area of so-called "scholarship" originates in semitic hatred for the indigenous peoples of Europe. It's just papered over with a tenuous layer of pilpul designed to disguise this virulent, unreasoning hatred for a particular people as hatred for a supposed ideology/ "social construct"/ whatever. Notorious anti-White polemicist Noel Abolish the White race Ignatiev is the best-known example, but there are many others.

    What Joyce doesn't mention is that, in order to "prove" that autochthonous Europeans can somehow be robbed of their "whiteness" while leaving them otherwise intact, it helps to first "prove" that the original proto-Whites somehow conspired to "give" whiteness to peoples that originally-lacked-it. This is the narrative purpose of tracts like Ignatiev's infamous screed The Irish Used to be Negroes -- from Africa!

    Mark Levine promoting Ignatiev's hate-filled ideology:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2019/11/17/abolishing-whiteness-has-never-been-more-urgent/

    [This is what's commonly known as "recursive jewing."]

    Here we see some Korean chick, "assisted" by a Fellow White named Silverman, coaching White wahmen on how to "amputate your toxic, gangrenous Whiteness... so you can be a good goy."

    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/toxic-whiteness-healing-white-people-internalised-racism-woman-sandra-kim-new-york-a7595216.html

    I doubt very much this sort of "educational" seminar was very prevalent in the 19th century. They don't always need neologisms to weave the word magic -- distorting the meaning of existing words works, too. See also "gender."
  119. @bomag

    “A Black person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of whiteness,”
     
    Game, set, match.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @AceDeuce, @James Forrestal

    “Game, set, match” for whom ?

  120. @Patrick McNally
    @Steve Sailer

    The autobiography was really written by Alex Haley and is focused on a general readership in what was regarded as a primarily Christian USA at the time of publication. However if you look at the Columbia University's webpage on The Life of Malcolm X they tell you that he converted to traditional Islam after breaking from the NOI and made his trip to Mecca in April 1964, acquiring the identity of El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz. He was a committed Muslim until the end.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @AceDeuce

    Uh, yeah. That means that Malcolm the Tenth was a “committed Muslim” for about a whole 10-11 months, which he spent as a useful idiot for the powers that be in the Middle East..

    Regarding his former affiliation, one other poster mentioned the NOI, and said something about it being a strange cult. It is that, but know this: 99% of American negroes are part of it–de facto members.

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
    @AceDeuce

    The point is that if his story is true then his mother should have raised him as some kind of Muslim, and he should have biographical details which corroborate that. My impression from looking at his story was that he was trying to tell it in a way that would appeal to Christians. Which makes me suspect that the whole story about his mother being inspired by Malcom X to raise him in a way that rejected Dr. Seuss is probably false.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

  121. She informed me that our childhood was part of an experiment she had envisioned before we were even born. “A Black person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of whiteness,” she explained.

    If only there were somewhere, anywhere, that it were possible to grow up without being in a majority white population. Alas, there is no such place on Earth. Alas, we can dream.

    You know the old saying: Don’t go there, it’s been taken over by white people.

  122. @Paperback Writer
    I only just noticed that the name of the article is "In Our House, Dr. Seuss Was Contraband" --

    Contraband is maybe the only fun part of a war.

    Replies: @JMcG

    How about the rape? What did Slim Pickens’ character say in Blazing Saddles?

  123. @JimB
    @Tiny Duck


    I’ll bet you he has had WAY MORE sex with white girls than all the “men” here combined

    That tells you something right there
     
    That he’s a sex offender?

    Replies: @JMcG

    Why do black guys have bloodshot eyes after sex?

    The pepper spray.

    • LOL: Polistra
  124. Da Root must be The Atlantics brain trust now.

  125. @AceDeuce
    @Patrick McNally

    Uh, yeah. That means that Malcolm the Tenth was a "committed Muslim" for about a whole 10-11 months, which he spent as a useful idiot for the powers that be in the Middle East..

    Regarding his former affiliation, one other poster mentioned the NOI, and said something about it being a strange cult. It is that, but know this: 99% of American negroes are part of it--de facto members.

    Replies: @Patrick McNally

    The point is that if his story is true then his mother should have raised him as some kind of Muslim, and he should have biographical details which corroborate that. My impression from looking at his story was that he was trying to tell it in a way that would appeal to Christians. Which makes me suspect that the whole story about his mother being inspired by Malcom X to raise him in a way that rejected Dr. Seuss is probably false.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Patrick McNally

    Blacks are almost all piecemeal NOI, which is a sort of quasi-bastardized piecemeal imitation of Islam. It's the same way that most blacks are "Christian"-that is, not in any real sense, but they adopt what they think suits them.

    The mistakes that Whites make is trying to analyze blacks by White standards--they are a funhouse mirror reflection of those.

  126. @Lot
    @Adam Smith

    No, but I can only think of one gay male hate hoax, though it was the most famous. It is a female thing, especially female academics and ugly young women.

    “Famous crime victim” is not appealing to male brains. Even Jussie’s hate hoax involved him fighting off multiple klansmen, not any real injury.

    Replies: @Adam Smith

  127. It’s interesting how fundamentalist Christians and other conservative Christians get mocked for sheltering their children from the heathen outside world, which allegedly leads to stunted mental lives, closed-mindedness, and a potential for culture shock and an inability to deal with it, but when liberal blacks do it, it’s applauded.

  128. @Buffalo Joe
    Ah, guys, we are being trolled. Harriot is a Senior Writer at the "Root" web site. Single most racist site on the internet,

    Replies: @anon, @Paperback Writer, @wren, @James Forrestal

    IIRC, The Root was started by Donald Graham and Jacob Weisberg. They brought Henry Louis Gates in after they had decided what they wanted to do.

    In my mind it’s kinda like Stan Lee and Jacob Kurtzberg creating The Black Panther and Wakanda.

    • Replies: @wren
    @wren

    Oops, I meant Stanley Martin Lieber, not Stan Lee.

    It looks like the origin of The Root is getting memory holed though. Pretty sure I read an article by Weisberg himself about starting it, but I can no longer find it.

    Replies: @res

  129. @wren
    @Buffalo Joe

    IIRC, The Root was started by Donald Graham and Jacob Weisberg. They brought Henry Louis Gates in after they had decided what they wanted to do.

    In my mind it's kinda like Stan Lee and Jacob Kurtzberg creating The Black Panther and Wakanda.

    Replies: @wren

    Oops, I meant Stanley Martin Lieber, not Stan Lee.

    It looks like the origin of The Root is getting memory holed though. Pretty sure I read an article by Weisberg himself about starting it, but I can no longer find it.

    • Replies: @res
    @wren


    It looks like the origin of The Root is getting memory holed though. Pretty sure I read an article by Weisberg himself about starting it, but I can no longer find it.
     
    This?
    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2008/06/david-plotz-succeeds-jacob-weisberg-as-slate-s-editor.html

    In January, I helped launch The Root, under the editorial direction of Henry Louis Gates Jr. and Lynette Clemetson.
     
    This article talks about Donald Graham's involvement:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/28/business/media/28post.html
  130. @bomag

    “A Black person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of whiteness,”
     
    Game, set, match.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @AceDeuce, @James Forrestal

    “A Black person’s humanity can never be fully realized in the presence of whiteness,”

    Game, set, match.

    Sounds good. Yet while Whites must not oppress Blacks with the presence of their “Whiteness,” they’re also morally obligated to live in close proximity to Blacks — in order to stop them from shooting each other:

    “…our findings suggest that even among neighborhoods of the same socioeconomic status, residential segregation may put Black individuals at higher risk of gun homicide
    [Translated into standard English, the bold part means “If too many Blacks live in the same neighborhood, they tend to shoot each other a lot”]

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/whats-safer-at-reducing-murders-having-richer-neighbors-or-less-black-neighbors/

    [MORE]

    [Original source]

    So how do they resolve this blatant internal contradiction in the recently-reified dogma of so-called “critical race theory” — which, building on earlier semitic standards, serves to shore up the rotten edifice of systemic semitism?

    Through some pilpul about how “Whiteness” is a “social construct” that is intrinsically “toxic” and will inevitably compel Evil Whitey to gas 6 billion more members of the Tribe of Supreme Victims… and the only way to avoid anuddah shoah is for the White goyim learn to “heal” from their “toxic Whiteness”.* See, once Whites [who aren’t really White, but just think they are] manage to fully “heal” from their “Whiteness,” becoming fully atomized, raceless, identityless, self-hating cogs in the North American module of the great machine of the global economy… then the endless paranoia and bottomless thirst for “revenge” that is so characteristic of toxic semitism will finally be assuaged. Honest. See, they’re not really motivated by virulent, unreasoning hatred for the White goyim, but by a deep desire to help us. To tikkun the goyim, as it were.

    We can easily illustrate the self-evident validity of this “reasoning” by simply substituting the name of another race/ ethny/ nation for “White”/ “Whiteness” in this kind of rhetoric.

    “We need to eliminate the toxic social construct of Blackness.’ The only way to stop Black criminal predation is to help them to heal from their toxic Blackness; to abolish the Black race.”

    Or even:

    “Jewishness is a toxic social construct that is defined only by collective hatred of the goy Other, leading inevitably to the ever-present scourge of semitic supremacism. We cannot effectively deal with systemic semitism and jew privilege without completely abolishing jewishness.”

    Uh huh. I’m sure they’d be OK with that…

    Anyway, in this context, the way that they would typically paper over this massive hole in their virulently anti-White “theory” would be to blabber about how avoiding Blacks is in and of itself a manifestation of “toxic Whiteness”; by dealing with them sycophantically in close proximity, you’d not only be “checking your privilege” and becoming a “self-hating ally of systemic semitism”… you’d be “healing your toxic Whiteness.” By applying this technique of “Whiteness amputation,” you would magically morph into a “White without Whiteness,” so they would — theoretically and grudgingly — accept your presence in spite of their hatred. Or something.

    I’m not claiming that Harriott (or Jennifer Rubin, for that matter) could generate complex enough pilpul to produce a superficially-coherent-appearing rationalization on this basis, but for someone like Tamara “We have to kill the Syrians to save them” Wittes, it would be all in a day’s work.

    *Note that some Korean named Sandra Kim (who is apparently entirely healed from Toxic Yellowness) gets the primary “credit” for this atrocity, but what do we find a couple of paragraphs in?

    “Kim launched the course in October 2016 with ‘help’ from Dara Silverman
    Every. Single. Time. It’s not just a meme…

  131. @Barack Obama's secret Unz account
    I saw some NYT goober on Twitter is trying to get Pepe le Pew cancelled for not getting affirmative consent.

    What's astonishing is the number of people in the replies who agreed. Is Twitter silencing normal people, or is there a sorting effect going on, or are there really just that many nutters on the Twitter? (As opposed to here, where we are all perfectly normal.)

    I do think there's definitely a disproportionately large number of nuts, weirdos, autists, etc, on the internet. Worth bearing in mind when you're getting into another pointless argument: is this person actually mental?

    Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax

    It’s a coalition of white women, blacks, and gay activists.

  132. @Luzzatto
    Dr. Seuss has his own line of t-shirts. Now that Dr. Seuss has been Cancel Cultured, wearing a Dr. Seuss t-shirt would be the equivalent of wearing a MAGA t-shirt and random Democrat strangers on the streets would most likely try to commit violence against you if you wore a Dr. Seuss t-shirt out in public in Portland, Oregon for example!

    Replies: @Possumman, @James Forrestal

    Now that Dr. Seuss has been Cancel Cultured, wearing a Dr. Seuss t-shirt would be the equivalent of wearing a MAGA t-shirt

    > “Cancelled”

    > Made $33M” last year.

    Pick one.
    Though it would be great to see Shitlib Aesop fully cancelled — the revolution eating its own — it just ain’t gonna happen. It’s merely an optics move; they’re trying to fake some concern for the schvartzes. As well as trying to realign his message with critical race theory (rather than the old-style liberal “colorblind” approach, which is now viewed as unequivocally “r****t”).

    But you are correct in pointing out that Geisel had more than a few similarities to [former] President Kushner. Sheldon Adelson’s man in the White House was, of course, a sycophantic servant of the Tribe — specifically of neo-revisionist Zionism:

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    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/in-sheldon-adelson-far-right-israel-hits-the-jackpot-trum-miriam-netanyahu/

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/trump-heights-israel-netanyahu-golan-occupied-territories-a8961551.html

    https://mondoweiss.net/2019/04/adelsons-greatest-jerusalem/

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/trump-heights-israel-netanyahu-golan-occupied-territories-a8961551.html

    Sure, the leftist diaspora jews got pretty hysterical about the Orange Man, but not because they actually objected to his incessant Israel Firstism — more that they felt (more or less correctly) that nationalism/ populism tends to lead to higher levels of goyim noticing:

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/11/is-there-a-new-american-antisemitism.html
    [Chait isn’t really “left” by the Tribe’s standards, but he’s virulently anti-White]

    Geisel:

    -That’s some… interesting physiognomy there

    -He admitted that his motivation going to work for the leftist publication PM in early 1941 to crank out hundreds of pro-war cartoons was largely an instinctive, vitriolic hatred for American patriots like Charles Lindbergh. Geisel had an intense, visceral hatred for Father Coughlin as well.

    -The Times of Israel, in discussing the recent campaign, was quick to point out that Geisel worked hard to get the US involved in WW2, and to promote images of jewish victimhood, and that even if some of his cartoons may seem a little “r****t” in retrospect, “The Tribe is way more important than those filthy kushim, after all” (or something like that).

    -Geisel is also notorious for writing the script for the hate film Your Job in Germany, which was shown to American occupation troops to make sure that they “knew” that the German people were genetically programmed to be evil, and that they should steer clear of even small children. It was such ham-handed a̶n̶t̶i̶-̶g̶o̶y̶ anti-German propaganda that General Patton walked out of the initial screening, muttering “Bullshit.”

    – And what’s this?
    “In a ceremony at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in 1969, Theodor Seuss Geisel… in recognition of his friendship for the Jewish people, was awarded the title of “Honorary Jew” by Jerusalem mayor Teddy Kollek.”

    Huh. Anyway, the official story is that Geisel was just an unusually obsequious shabbos goy who happened to have an intense, instinctive hatred for both American patriots and his fellow Germans. But it doesn’t really matter whether his toxic semitism was hereditary or acquired — let the Tribe and the leftists go to bat for Shitlib Aesop. He’s their hero, not mine.

  133. @Joe Stalin
    @jamie b.

    I heard Steve Cortez on his Chicago radio program today defending the Speedy Gonzalez cartoon because he always defeated Sylvester the Cat and that other Hispanics felt the same way.

    https://twitter.com/CortesSteve/status/1368588785198526465
    https://twitter.com/Azul_Yellow/status/1368430624642658305
    https://twitter.com/lordvictor/status/1368311164510363653

    Replies: @James Forrestal

    I suppose people they complain about the other Mexican mice are portrayed in the cartoon, but I can see why the mestizos back Speedy — he’s fast, he’s sharp/ outwits the other characters, and, unlike Pepe…

    Pepe Le Pew, on the other hand, is clearly an anti-Frenchitic (Francophobic?) stereotype… since his efforts all come to naught. He never gets the girl — except maybe in this one.

    And of course, at the intersection of Speedy and Pepe, we have this mashup:

  134. @HammerJack
    @Not Raul





    Mickey Rooney in “Breakfast at Tiffany’s”.
     
    Not funny at all. Ultimate Cringe.

    Replies: @would smashionalist, @AceDeuce

    Give me a break. Do you also cringe at the portrayal of Inspector Clouseau? After all, it’s the same thing–a non-French actor portraying an imaginary French police officer as a clownish idiot.

    Oh, the humanity!

  135. @Patrick McNally
    @AceDeuce

    The point is that if his story is true then his mother should have raised him as some kind of Muslim, and he should have biographical details which corroborate that. My impression from looking at his story was that he was trying to tell it in a way that would appeal to Christians. Which makes me suspect that the whole story about his mother being inspired by Malcom X to raise him in a way that rejected Dr. Seuss is probably false.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    Blacks are almost all piecemeal NOI, which is a sort of quasi-bastardized piecemeal imitation of Islam. It’s the same way that most blacks are “Christian”-that is, not in any real sense, but they adopt what they think suits them.

    The mistakes that Whites make is trying to analyze blacks by White standards–they are a funhouse mirror reflection of those.

  136. @Buffalo Joe
    Ah, guys, we are being trolled. Harriot is a Senior Writer at the "Root" web site. Single most racist site on the internet,

    Replies: @anon, @Paperback Writer, @wren, @James Forrestal

    Ah, guys, we are being trolled. Harriot is a Senior Writer at the “Root” web site. Single most “r****t” [presumably you mean “anti-White”] site on the internet,

    The Root is a subsidiary of Univision, the largest provider of Spanish language content in the US:

    https://corporate.univision.com/blog/portfolio/properties/the-root/

    So a bunch of Mexicans own a [virulently anti-White] Black blog?

    Well, not really. From 2007 until last year, Univision was owned by a group of investors led by Haim Saban — an Israeli-American dual citizen, open-borders fanatic, major Dem donor… and uber-Zionist.

    Univision was sold last year to a consortium led by Eric Zinterhofer — son-in-law of Ronald Lauder, president of the World Jewish Congress.

    Every. Single. Time.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @James Forrestal

    Before 2007, Univision was owned by Jerry Perenchio, an Italian-American Republican.

    Replies: @James Forrestal

  137. @James Forrestal
    @Buffalo Joe


    Ah, guys, we are being trolled. Harriot is a Senior Writer at the “Root” web site. Single most "r****t" [presumably you mean "anti-White"] site on the internet,
     
    The Root is a subsidiary of Univision, the largest provider of Spanish language content in the US:

    https://corporate.univision.com/blog/portfolio/properties/the-root/

    So a bunch of Mexicans own a [virulently anti-White] Black blog?

    Well, not really. From 2007 until last year, Univision was owned by a group of investors led by Haim Saban -- an Israeli-American dual citizen, open-borders fanatic, major Dem donor... and uber-Zionist.

    Univision was sold last year to a consortium led by Eric Zinterhofer -- son-in-law of Ronald Lauder, president of the World Jewish Congress.

    Every. Single. Time.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Before 2007, Univision was owned by Jerry Perenchio, an Italian-American Republican.

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
    @Steve Sailer


    Before 2007, Univision was owned by Jerry Perenchio
     
    The Root didn't even exist in 2007 -- and Univision didn't buy it until 2015. The Root was founded by WaPo, i.e. (((Donald Graham))) in 2008 (see also Katherine Meyer Graham and Eugene Meyer). Graham picked Jacob Weisberg to "guide its creation."

    See Res' comment above.

  138. @wren
    @wren

    Oops, I meant Stanley Martin Lieber, not Stan Lee.

    It looks like the origin of The Root is getting memory holed though. Pretty sure I read an article by Weisberg himself about starting it, but I can no longer find it.

    Replies: @res

    It looks like the origin of The Root is getting memory holed though. Pretty sure I read an article by Weisberg himself about starting it, but I can no longer find it.

    This?
    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2008/06/david-plotz-succeeds-jacob-weisberg-as-slate-s-editor.html

    In January, I helped launch The Root, under the editorial direction of Henry Louis Gates Jr. and Lynette Clemetson.

    This article talks about Donald Graham’s involvement:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/28/business/media/28post.html

  139. @Reg Cæsar
    @Pontius


    I doubt “whiteness” was a word when he was 8.

     

    It troughed around that time, but it was bigger in the Era of Good Feelings than it is now.

    (Is it still OK to say "NGram"?)

    Replies: @James Forrestal

    “I doubt “whiteness” was a word when he was 8.”

    It troughed around that time, but it was bigger in the Era of Good Feelings than it is now.

    Though I kinda doubt that back in the 1800s they were using it in the current year jewsplaining/ CRT sense of “an invisible — but totally real — evil essence that tightly adheres to all goyim of European descent, causing them to be very mean to non-Whites and jews for no reason.”

    That sense of “whiteness” is a relatively recent reificaton:

    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2015/06/12/jews-communists-and-genocidal-hate-in-whiteness-studies/

    Dr. Joyce points out that this area of so-called “scholarship” originates in semitic hatred for the indigenous peoples of Europe. It’s just papered over with a tenuous layer of pilpul designed to disguise this virulent, unreasoning hatred for a particular people as hatred for a supposed ideology/ “social construct”/ whatever. Notorious anti-White polemicist Noel Abolish the White race Ignatiev is the best-known example, but there are many others.

    What Joyce doesn’t mention is that, in order to “prove” that autochthonous Europeans can somehow be robbed of their “whiteness” while leaving them otherwise intact, it helps to first “prove” that the original proto-Whites somehow conspired to “give” whiteness to peoples that originally-lacked-it. This is the narrative purpose of tracts like Ignatiev’s infamous screed The Irish Used to be Negroes — from Africa!

    Mark Levine promoting Ignatiev’s hate-filled ideology:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2019/11/17/abolishing-whiteness-has-never-been-more-urgent/

    [This is what’s commonly known as “recursive jewing.”]

    Here we see some Korean chick, “assisted” by a Fellow White named Silverman, coaching White wahmen on how to “amputate your toxic, gangrenous Whiteness… so you can be a good goy.”

    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/toxic-whiteness-healing-white-people-internalised-racism-woman-sandra-kim-new-york-a7595216.html

    I doubt very much this sort of “educational” seminar was very prevalent in the 19th century. They don’t always need neologisms to weave the word magic — distorting the meaning of existing words works, too. See also “gender.”

  140. @Steve Sailer
    @James Forrestal

    Before 2007, Univision was owned by Jerry Perenchio, an Italian-American Republican.

    Replies: @James Forrestal

    Before 2007, Univision was owned by Jerry Perenchio

    The Root didn’t even exist in 2007 — and Univision didn’t buy it until 2015. The Root was founded by WaPo, i.e. (((Donald Graham))) in 2008 (see also Katherine Meyer Graham and Eugene Meyer). Graham picked Jacob Weisberg to “guide its creation.”

    See Res’ comment above.

  141. @MEH 0910
    @would smashionalist

    Noah Millman:
    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/millman/my-favorite-mickey-rooney-performance/


    But a key anchor for the whole experience is Rooney’s performance as Floom, an aging, creepy clown.

    The key to that performance is its sincerity. There’s not a moment in which Rooney mugs, or trades off his persona, not a moment in which he solicits our sympathy. He is completely inside this terrifyingly remote and strange character, a man who has become the clown, who is no longer performing because he is never not performing.
     


    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/mickey-rooney-clown.jpg

    Replies: @would smashionalist, @MEH 0910

    Noah Millman:
    https://www.noahgmillman.com/about

    I am currently at work on a book, The Folio of This World, about Shakespeare and the Hebrew bible, portions of which have appeared in The American Conservative and The Jewish Review of Books.

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