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Representative Chris Van Hollen (D-Chevy Chase, MD) holds the single most desirable Democratic seat in the House, representing the posh suburbs starting at the northwest border of the District of Columbia. No need to maintain two homes and rack up the frequent flier miles.
His father was some kind of Deputy Assistant Secretary of State and his mother was in the CIA.
And the high-ranking Democrat with the impressive resume looks like a President of the United States as played by a veteran movie star. But maybe looking like a guy who’d get cast as the Chief Executive in a thriller movie, a cross between Dennis Quaid and James Caan, isn’t what the Democrats are looking for these days? The problem for the Democrats is that Van Hollen’s career path to the national ticket has to go through a Democratic Senatorial primary in Freddie Gray’s hometown.
From the NYT:
White Man or Black Woman? Senate Race Tears at Maryland Democrats
By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG APRIL 22, 2016
Representative Donna Edwards spoke last week outside City Hall in Baltimore with Billy Murphy, lawyer for the family of Freddie Gray, a 25-year-old black man who died of injuries sustained while in police custody.
BALTIMORE — On Capitol Hill, Representative Chris Van Hollen is, literally and figuratively, a Democratic fair-haired boy. An American son of diplomats born while his parents served in Pakistan, he has used his fund-raising savvy, policy smarts and easy manner to position himself, party elders assumed, as a potential Democratic speaker of the House.
Instead, Mr. Van Hollen, now running for the Senate in his home state of Maryland, is fighting for his survival in an identity politics primary that raises an explosive question: Should a white man, or a black woman, inherit the seat held for 30 years by Barbara A. Mikulski, the longest-serving female senator in American history?
The contest between two members of Congress — the low-key Mr. Van Hollen, who trumpets his legislative résumé, and Representative Donna Edwards, a onetime community activist and African-American single mother — has exposed deep fissures among Democrats as it traverses thorny issues of gender, race and class.
… Shaking hands and snapping selfies outside an early voting center here Tuesday night, she offered a succinct rationale for her candidacy: “The Senate is 100 members — 20 women. There’s nobody in the Senate like me.”
As to the uproar over the push by Emily’s List, Ms. Edwards said she was mystified: “I’m a pro-choice Democratic woman, and Mr. Van Hollen is not.”
Mr. Van Hollen, who helped muscle President Obama’s health care legislation and other high-priority bills through Congress as the right-hand man to the House Democratic leader, Nancy Pelosi, the former speaker, cannot exactly argue with that. He is a 57-year-old white man in a party that has a core coalition consisting of minorities, single women and young people. …
Analysts say black women will decide the race. Perhaps nowhere is the fight for their votes as fierce as here in Baltimore, a majority black city that is about to choose its next mayor. Next week — one day after Tuesday’s Maryland primary — the city will mark the one-year anniversary of the unrest over the death of Freddie Gray. The memory of the 25-year-old black man, who died of injuries he sustained while in police custody, hovers over both races. …
The congressman, doing his best to avoid race and gender questions, reminded the crowd that he has Baltimore ties (his father grew up here) and of his attention to constituent service. He stiffened slightly when asked if the Senate needs a black woman’s voice.
Those who endorsed him, he said, can speak for themselves: “They want somebody with a track record of delivering real results.”
There has not been a black woman in the Senate since Carol Moseley Braun, the nation’s first and only black female senator, left in 1999. In California, Emily’s List is also backing Kamala Harris, who is black and Asian-American, for a Senate seat this year. Here in Maryland, a Monmouth University poll released on Thursday showed Mr. Van Hollen pulling ahead in what has been a tight race with voters, especially women, and starkly divided along racial lines.
“This is the state that Harriet Tubman ran away from twice and Frederick Douglass ran away from at least once, and we’ve never had a black woman elected statewide,” said Benjamin Jealous, the former president and chief executive of the N.A.A.C.P., who supports Ms. Edwards, though he insisted it was for policy reasons, not her race. …
“This is 2016,” Ms. Middleton finally said. “African-American women need a voice.”
The current year seems to cause more problems these days.
Van Hollen is pulling away in the primary.
The “Black party” stuff is an amusing dig, I guess, but there are still vastly more white Democrats than black Democrats.
Of course the Democrats aren't the "black party". And not due to the race of voters but also the race of elected officials at EVERY level, donors, consultants, hacks etc. Vast majority are WHITE people.
Remember Sailer's claim that the majority of American people who voted for Obama TWICE are the "coalition of the fringes"!!!!
Because to Steve America is really the San Fernando Valley 1958 FOREVER.Yeah, he's "literally" a boy! As are most 57 year old White men in America.
Like Donna Edwards is a "colored gal".Replies: @Jus' Sayin'..., @Jack D, @Mr. Anon, @Das, @Jefferson, @Eric Novak
There are vastly more people in the Republican party who do not work for oil and coal companies than who do, and yet the Republicans are still though of as the fossil-fuels party. There are vastly more Democrats who do not work in the entertainment business than there are Democrats who do, and yet the Democrats are still the Hollywood party. There are vastly more people, both Democrat and Republican, who do not work on Wall Street than who do, and yet both parties can rightfully be thought of as "The Wall Street Party".
“This is the state that Harriet Tubman ran away from twice and Frederick Douglass ran away from at least once, and we’ve never had a black woman elected statewide,” said Benjamin Jealous, the former president and chief executive of the N.A.A.C.P., who supports Ms. Edwards, though he insisted it was for policy reasons, not her race. …”
Which policy reasons? Is Chris Van Hollen not pro-open borders, not pro-amnesty, not pro-affirmative action, not pro-gun control, and not pro-Black Lies Matter?
I would like Mr. Jealous to explain why the White guy is not Left Wing enough for him.
No, Ms. Middleton, apparently for you it is still 1864.
Not much of a white man, is he? The Bushes were white also. Not much to pick from here, just bad and worse.
Obamacare is very good for white people who have average or below average incomes. Unfortunately, there is no viable political party in the USA that represents white people who aren’t wealthy.
Another example to think about: Hobby Lobby spent how much on fighting those stupid rules about them covering abortions? Hobby Lobby (have you ever been into one, I have, many, many times) hires Americans, that speak English and have great customer service. And you know what? Those legal fees could've been used to hire more Americans. HL pays above average wages and provides benefits.
May I also remind you that the very first tax to be assessed by Obamacare was the tanning salon business tax. What is the customer demographic of tanning salons?
The above is only a few, off the top of my head, FACTS that refute what you said. Remember every "tax" on a business leads to higher prices and/or less employment or the business going out of existence.
I wish a rich guy would create a Fred’s List for pro-life men, just for shits and giggles (I happen to be pro-choice, but only for people I’d prefer not being born). If I were incredibly rich, I’d do a ton a stuff like this. I’d pay for protests at every NBA game demanding equal opportunity for Japanese basketball players. Talk about disparate impact!
The "Black party" stuff is an amusing dig, I guess, but there are still vastly more white Democrats than black Democrats.Replies: @Rifleman, @Mr. Anon
For god sake please don’t let facts and numbers get in the way of paranoid ramblings about RACE.
Of course the Democrats aren’t the “black party”. And not due to the race of voters but also the race of elected officials at EVERY level, donors, consultants, hacks etc. Vast majority are WHITE people.
Remember Sailer’s claim that the majority of American people who voted for Obama TWICE are the “coalition of the fringes”!!!!
Because to Steve America is really the San Fernando Valley 1958 FOREVER.
Yeah, he’s “literally” a boy! As are most 57 year old White men in America.
Like Donna Edwards is a “colored gal”.
The first tactic costs the party nothing except the contempt of non-Negroes who see through it. The second and third tactics use up resources the party could usefully expend elsewhere. There's a constant tension here between what the Negroes in question want and what the party is willing to deliver. As the dimocrats continue using similar tactics to court other gimme groups, e.g., other racial minorities, the sexually confused, and feminist fanatics, the fights over spoils distribution can only get more nasty. This is where a party based on a coalition of gimme groups can quickly run into trouble. Only time can tell the outcome.
Van Hollen sounds like an excellent Deep-State candidate.
I hope he loses. It will be fun to see white democratic politicians get undone by the policies and expectations they helped create.
Democrats lose big among the core of American society, married white people, but run even or win among everyone else. When you add up college students, single women, gays, blacks, Hispanics, Jews, Asians, etc. you can hold together a narrow majority, but it's not really the core of society.
"Black Party" is something that is true in Mississippi and a few other states in the South. In most of the country there just aren't enough blacks to dominate any party in a two-party system.
Democrats obviously pander to blacks... when they're not pandering to the other dozen or so groups in their coalition.
It seems like Steve feels more nostalgic for The San Fernando Valley of 1982, rather than The San Fernando Valley of 1958.Replies: @Eric Novak
I don’t know how to say this without sounding bier but of course it’ll be great if she wins.
Whites like this dude dug a big ditch hoping to toss all of us in it while he stayed out. Well, the edges of the ditch are slippery.
Same with the academy awards and any time a white Victimology Promoter (please don’t call these fools leftists or liberals) gets killed by his own monster.
It’s a wonderful day. I hope the single mom wins.
“African-American women need a voice.”
Funny but as a white person I never felt any white politician was speaking for me — would that even have been allowed/possible? — especially today?
Anyway, what they need even more is 1) to lose weight (black women are the most obese), and 2) stop having children out of wedlock and by more than one male.
I work with a black woman who firmly believes that entire bastard differential between whites and blacks can be reduced to white female use of abortion. One day she offered me her disgust with white female condescension regarding the baby-mama phenomenon stating 'we keep our kids.' Of course she's never looked up the data on abortions by race and I wasn't going to clarify things for her. In her defense, her adult son lives with her, is unemployed and has a steady stream of white paramours spending the night apparently. Though I don't think he's gotten any of them pregnant, yet.
Guys. It’s the current year. Come on.
I had no idea it could take a community so long to recover from the loss of its smack dealer. Kind of figured another one would pop right up just like shark’s teeth. But now that I see how devastating it truly is, I think federal funding should be made available for a new Freddie Gray Memorial Heroin Distribution Center.
Whites like this dude dug a big ditch hoping to toss all of us in it while he stayed out. Well, the edges of the ditch are slippery.
Same with the academy awards and any time a white Victimology Promoter (please don't call these fools leftists or liberals) gets killed by his own monster.
It's a wonderful day. I hope the single mom wins.Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Nico
I will certainly find it gratifying if his political career is destroyed by the shit stirring the Democrats have done.
Loathsome
I did not know the US is a post-Roman patrimonial state.
I scoffed a bit when Steve Sailer said that once a minority or a woman gets a coveted position, that will forever be their position, no other group need apply. But I see now that this is how it is. And it’s the parties that are driving this stuff. Voters would be less race oriented and more result oriented, I think, if they weren’t being swatted on the nose with the newspaper every time they lifted their heads.
OT: I have just come back from my first trip to the US, to a place on the Eastern seaboard that is kept spick and span by defense spending (not the purpose of my visit, but those warships and the WW2 battleship museum ship were impressive). I found the television coverage of election (and race) issues to be unbearable and trivial at the same time. I just read about it. I can finally empathize with Americans who either shut it out completely or live in fantasyland.
Totally. I’m looking forward to voting for Trump. (Though I’m pro-choice myself.)
I’ve always thought it would be nice to be involved in men’s activism. At the very least we should raise some money for prostate cancer research.
On the topic of US presidents on TV shows, the trend has been to have ever less white men depicted as president. In fact its a bit of shock when its a white man now, probably felt the same when Hollywood first started having blacks as president.
Is Kevin Michael Grace the originator of the “It’s the current year” line? I heard it first on a “The Two Kevins: Grace and Steel” podcast.
Not another story about Prince!
Bernie Sanders is bringing back the Democrats. He is able to attract a coalition of white liberals who went to Ivy League colleges and whites without college educations. He isn’t winning the nomination but he has shown the path forward for future elections.
Sanders is actually just the latest "free money", utopian leftist, campus fad candidate. And all he's demonstrated is that it's going to be an increasingly empty road for the Democrats. He wins a comfortable majority of the white votes, but can't beat a truly mediocre, personally unappealing candidate who is pushing all the multicultural race-baiting buttons and rolls up large margins of minority voters.
Look i know lefty whites think *they* are the "good thinkers" and indeed the party does operate for the benefit of goodwhites (esp. Jews)--lawyers, lobbyists, financiers, fixers, bureaucrats, grantees, professors and other assorted teat suckers. But all the white teat suckers can't win elections, without all their minority mascots. And all that minority pandering is increasingly pushing off all the whites who aren't teat suckers. The minority component is becoming more and more--not less--dominant.
Whites like this dude dug a big ditch hoping to toss all of us in it while he stayed out. Well, the edges of the ditch are slippery.
Same with the academy awards and any time a white Victimology Promoter (please don't call these fools leftists or liberals) gets killed by his own monster.
It's a wonderful day. I hope the single mom wins.Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Nico
Indeed, white Americans need to wake up and see the U.S. Democratic Party for what it has become: our version of South Africa’s A.N.C..
Of course, any African Americans who are unhappy that whites are in the process of nominating two almost dead white people for the Presidency could write in Freddie Gray in November as a form of protest.
Forgive me for pointing out the seemingly obvious, but given the history and the current state of Baltimore, MD seems like the kind of state you don’t want to be as a Black American. Just kidding.
But She might do better by moving to Utah or Idaho and riding the wave of white guilt to the Senate, rather than hoping to do the same in the People’s Republic of MD, where she is just another liberal politician.
There is apparently more turnover in the UK House of Lords than in the US Senate.
Of course the Democrats aren't the "black party". And not due to the race of voters but also the race of elected officials at EVERY level, donors, consultants, hacks etc. Vast majority are WHITE people.
Remember Sailer's claim that the majority of American people who voted for Obama TWICE are the "coalition of the fringes"!!!!
Because to Steve America is really the San Fernando Valley 1958 FOREVER.Yeah, he's "literally" a boy! As are most 57 year old White men in America.
Like Donna Edwards is a "colored gal".Replies: @Jus' Sayin'..., @Jack D, @Mr. Anon, @Das, @Jefferson, @Eric Novak
But they are the party that Negroes overwhelmingly vote for. The dimocrats maintain this purely race-based advantage by: (1) Pandering to Negro paranoia and general stupidity at every opportunity, e.g. BLM; (2) Throwing a lot of table scraps to “big man” Negro leaders like Sharpton; and (3) Maintaining a stable of Negro politicians and political hangers-on like Holder.
The first tactic costs the party nothing except the contempt of non-Negroes who see through it. The second and third tactics use up resources the party could usefully expend elsewhere. There’s a constant tension here between what the Negroes in question want and what the party is willing to deliver. As the dimocrats continue using similar tactics to court other gimme groups, e.g., other racial minorities, the sexually confused, and feminist fanatics, the fights over spoils distribution can only get more nasty. This is where a party based on a coalition of gimme groups can quickly run into trouble. Only time can tell the outcome.
My fondest wish is that someday, some national figure says, “I’m pro-life, but only for white babies,” just to watch the devotees of common sense and simple human decency try to explain why that’s even worse than being pro-life for everyone.
I'm pro-life only for white conservatives.
Liberals and minorities are welcome to have all the abortions their little tiny hearts desire.
The states-rights abortion position would affectuate this. Abortion would be legal in a handful of right and left coast diverse states and illegal elsewhere in flyover country.
Hang on a moment.
Our first black president (Bubba) taught us that we can have both a white man and a white woman and a philanderer in the white house … so why don’t those two just get married and be like diBlasio?
Of course the Democrats aren't the "black party". And not due to the race of voters but also the race of elected officials at EVERY level, donors, consultants, hacks etc. Vast majority are WHITE people.
Remember Sailer's claim that the majority of American people who voted for Obama TWICE are the "coalition of the fringes"!!!!
Because to Steve America is really the San Fernando Valley 1958 FOREVER.Yeah, he's "literally" a boy! As are most 57 year old White men in America.
Like Donna Edwards is a "colored gal".Replies: @Jus' Sayin'..., @Jack D, @Mr. Anon, @Das, @Jefferson, @Eric Novak
You’re obviously trolling, but Democrats received something like 93% of the black vote in the last Presidential election – this is a higher percentage than some dictators get. This alone justifies the sobriquet of “black party”.
Steve’s “coalition of the fringes” notion makes a lot of sense – Democrat majorities consist of groups that are (or were) marginal in society in one way or another – racial minorities, sexual deviants, unmarried mothers, tree huggers, red diaper babies, etc. As our society becomes less and less functional, it is possible for the # of people on the “fringes” to exceed mainstream Americans. This may lead to short term political victories but is it a recipe for a society that is sustainable in the long term?
Even within Democrats themselves, the only “glue” that holds all these factions together is mutual hatred for white men. As the day when white men actually controlled the country recedes further and further into the past, will it still be possible to unite all the factions around this principle, when the factions themselves have opposing interests? It seems like misdirection to keep bringing up the events of 1964, let alone 1864 (by the way, if Maryland Democrats want to follow Tubman’s lead they should all get guns and vote Republican) as reasons for how you should vote in 2016. We can all be united around the issue of slavery (for the record, the Republican Party is against it), but Democrats don’t seem to want to discuss what are the REAL threats to their voters today because this might fray the coalition. For example, increased immigration goes against the interest of blacks and environmentalists. Muslim immigrants do not seem to be big on feminist causes or homosexuality. Etc.
When the GOP started moving away from Rockefeller model of (Thatcherite) Republicanism (Till Reagan) to modern theocratic GOP, it got painted as a southern bible-belt party mainly for social conservatives. The “Nones”, who are intellectual and well off were scared off by the Jesus people. That seems to be the end of GOP of ideas and rise of dumb GOP. Trump and Cruz are just the latest symptoms of dumbed down GOP.Replies: @marc w
The fringe already outnumbers the mainstream. Married White people do not make up over 50 percent of The U.S population.
Also if being a minority automatically makes you fringe, than married White people are a fringe in this country as well. No one is a majority in this country except for White people regardless of their marital status.Replies: @Eric Novak
Yes, it’s 2016 – can you believe that there is any state that does not yet have at least one black female senator? What kind of country are living in?
It’s those socialized medicine death panels. They’re to blame.
There has only been a single black woman senator. Hmmm.
There is a name for that, it’s called “pro-choice.”
The "Black party" stuff is an amusing dig, I guess, but there are still vastly more white Democrats than black Democrats.Replies: @Rifleman, @Mr. Anon
“The “Black party” stuff is an amusing dig, I guess, but there are still vastly more white Democrats than black Democrats.”
There are vastly more people in the Republican party who do not work for oil and coal companies than who do, and yet the Republicans are still though of as the fossil-fuels party. There are vastly more Democrats who do not work in the entertainment business than there are Democrats who do, and yet the Democrats are still the Hollywood party. There are vastly more people, both Democrat and Republican, who do not work on Wall Street than who do, and yet both parties can rightfully be thought of as “The Wall Street Party”.
Of course the Democrats aren't the "black party". And not due to the race of voters but also the race of elected officials at EVERY level, donors, consultants, hacks etc. Vast majority are WHITE people.
Remember Sailer's claim that the majority of American people who voted for Obama TWICE are the "coalition of the fringes"!!!!
Because to Steve America is really the San Fernando Valley 1958 FOREVER.Yeah, he's "literally" a boy! As are most 57 year old White men in America.
Like Donna Edwards is a "colored gal".Replies: @Jus' Sayin'..., @Jack D, @Mr. Anon, @Das, @Jefferson, @Eric Novak
“His father was some kind of Deputy Assistant Secretary of State and his mother was in the CIA.”
Van Hollen sounds like an excellent Deep-State candidate.
I hope he loses. It will be fun to see white democratic politicians get undone by the policies and expectations they helped create.
I think the real keystone in the arch of coalition of fringes is the “Nones” http://www.pewforum.org/2012/10/09/nones-on-the-rise/
When the GOP started moving away from Rockefeller model of (Thatcherite) Republicanism (Till Reagan) to modern theocratic GOP, it got painted as a southern bible-belt party mainly for social conservatives. The “Nones”, who are intellectual and well off were scared off by the Jesus people. That seems to be the end of GOP of ideas and rise of dumb GOP. Trump and Cruz are just the latest symptoms of dumbed down GOP.
A lot of religious talk can no doubt be very motivating for the believers, but it's pretty darn scary and crazy for those of us who don't share the religion. I could go on and on about how much I despise the religious right, but for now I'll just say that I hope they get around to vote for Trump when their guy Cruz is finally defeated.Replies: @midtown
Obamacare is NOT good at all for the demographic you mentioned. I would really like to know why you believe it has been. The deductibles are outrageous, the penalties, err taxes on businesses that might hire said demographics are astronomical, it does nothing for medical billing transparency, for illegals getting free health care via emergency rooms, etc. This law encourages part-time employment.
Another example to think about: Hobby Lobby spent how much on fighting those stupid rules about them covering abortions? Hobby Lobby (have you ever been into one, I have, many, many times) hires Americans, that speak English and have great customer service. And you know what? Those legal fees could’ve been used to hire more Americans. HL pays above average wages and provides benefits.
May I also remind you that the very first tax to be assessed by Obamacare was the tanning salon business tax. What is the customer demographic of tanning salons?
The above is only a few, off the top of my head, FACTS that refute what you said. Remember every “tax” on a business leads to higher prices and/or less employment or the business going out of existence.
What’s Hillary going to do: throw the BLM under the bus by supporting Van Hollen, or throw Van Hollen under the bus by siding with Edwards and the BLM?
Youre right. The modern Democrat party is comprised of many groups that should hate each other. But theyre held together by hatred of straight white men. How to stoke their hatred of each other instead? Well isnt that the Republican party’s job? Anyone home over there?
Damn, Steve, you are good. That’s exactly what Van Hollen looks like.
“This is 2016,” Ms. Middleton finally said. “African-American women need a voice.”
C’mon, at least one of those senators must be a secret transgender who identifies black? You know, fluid genders and social constructs and such.
Funny but as a white person I never felt any white politician was speaking for me -- would that even have been allowed/possible? -- especially today?
Anyway, what they need even more is 1) to lose weight (black women are the most obese), and 2) stop having children out of wedlock and by more than one male.Replies: @Curle
“Anyway, what they need even more is . . . stop having children out of wedlock and by more than one male.”
I work with a black woman who firmly believes that entire bastard differential between whites and blacks can be reduced to white female use of abortion. One day she offered me her disgust with white female condescension regarding the baby-mama phenomenon stating ‘we keep our kids.’ Of course she’s never looked up the data on abortions by race and I wasn’t going to clarify things for her. In her defense, her adult son lives with her, is unemployed and has a steady stream of white paramours spending the night apparently. Though I don’t think he’s gotten any of them pregnant, yet.
If I were to run for President, and I won’t because I have skeletons in my closet and a sense of propriety and shame, I would adopt a pro-death platform … I’m all for abortion because the people most likely to resort to it are the ones we most want to self-select for abortion, and I’m all for the death penalty because … well, because it certainly makes the question of recidivism and the cost of imprisoning people for very long lives moot. Since justice is always a secondary consideration in these matters, I can sleep well while holding these positions.
Despite being pro-choice, I'd rather have the pro-life anti-death penalty position than its opposite. Double-death's a little too Mad Max for me--the Church always had a point, IMHO.
Is that a joke?
Sanders is actually just the latest “free money”, utopian leftist, campus fad candidate. And all he’s demonstrated is that it’s going to be an increasingly empty road for the Democrats. He wins a comfortable majority of the white votes, but can’t beat a truly mediocre, personally unappealing candidate who is pushing all the multicultural race-baiting buttons and rolls up large margins of minority voters.
Look i know lefty whites think *they* are the “good thinkers” and indeed the party does operate for the benefit of goodwhites (esp. Jews)–lawyers, lobbyists, financiers, fixers, bureaucrats, grantees, professors and other assorted teat suckers. But all the white teat suckers can’t win elections, without all their minority mascots. And all that minority pandering is increasingly pushing off all the whites who aren’t teat suckers. The minority component is becoming more and more–not less–dominant.
That’s basically the default position–‘tough on crime’, ‘woman’s right to choose’.
Despite being pro-choice, I’d rather have the pro-life anti-death penalty position than its opposite. Double-death’s a little too Mad Max for me–the Church always had a point, IMHO.
Two more people who have never held real private sector jobs, just living off the federal government one way or the other. Our new hereditary minor “aristocracy” leading us to ever new disasters. It makes no difference which one wins. Our country loses either way.
Of course the Democrats aren't the "black party". And not due to the race of voters but also the race of elected officials at EVERY level, donors, consultants, hacks etc. Vast majority are WHITE people.
Remember Sailer's claim that the majority of American people who voted for Obama TWICE are the "coalition of the fringes"!!!!
Because to Steve America is really the San Fernando Valley 1958 FOREVER.Yeah, he's "literally" a boy! As are most 57 year old White men in America.
Like Donna Edwards is a "colored gal".Replies: @Jus' Sayin'..., @Jack D, @Mr. Anon, @Das, @Jefferson, @Eric Novak
“Coalition of the Fringes” is an accurate descriptor.
Democrats lose big among the core of American society, married white people, but run even or win among everyone else. When you add up college students, single women, gays, blacks, Hispanics, Jews, Asians, etc. you can hold together a narrow majority, but it’s not really the core of society.
“Black Party” is something that is true in Mississippi and a few other states in the South. In most of the country there just aren’t enough blacks to dominate any party in a two-party system.
Democrats obviously pander to blacks… when they’re not pandering to the other dozen or so groups in their coalition.
“society becomes less and less functional, it is possible for the # of people on the “fringes” to exceed mainstream Americans.”
The fringe already outnumbers the mainstream. Married White people do not make up over 50 percent of The U.S population.
Also if being a minority automatically makes you fringe, than married White people are a fringe in this country as well. No one is a majority in this country except for White people regardless of their marital status.
Of course the Democrats aren't the "black party". And not due to the race of voters but also the race of elected officials at EVERY level, donors, consultants, hacks etc. Vast majority are WHITE people.
Remember Sailer's claim that the majority of American people who voted for Obama TWICE are the "coalition of the fringes"!!!!
Because to Steve America is really the San Fernando Valley 1958 FOREVER.Yeah, he's "literally" a boy! As are most 57 year old White men in America.
Like Donna Edwards is a "colored gal".Replies: @Jus' Sayin'..., @Jack D, @Mr. Anon, @Das, @Jefferson, @Eric Novak
“Because to Steve America is really the San Fernando Valley 1958 FOREVER.”
It seems like Steve feels more nostalgic for The San Fernando Valley of 1982, rather than The San Fernando Valley of 1958.
Van Hollen has almost as much forehead as Paul Begala.
John Derbyshire detects no fraying of the fringes. Sure, White men will be pushed out of the Democratic Party, but White women will along with Blacks dominate. And that’s the whole point — Dems are White Women “plus” everyone but White men.
And its instructive to see why the hatred of White men has been so powerful and cohesive for groups that otherwise hate each other. First, White men are more accomplished and basically built and maintain the modern world. No wonder we are hated — the way any smart fraction is hated by the dumber less talented groups around them. This also includes White women who are failures compared to men in everything but having kids.
But more importantly the anti-White Male coalition, a majority and a sizeable one at that, trades economic insecurity and poverty, pretty much knowingly, for anti-White male policies that maximize personal liberty and status.
For Blacks that is not having to follow any law, making police back down and grovel, and any random White person just abase themselves and take whatever they dish out, self defense a capital crime.
For White women, its “regret rape” now making its way off campuses to society as a whole thanks to the American Legal Institute if you believe Instapundit, and normalization of slutty behavior. For Gays, its normalizing gay promiscuity as proper behavior. For Latinos, its being able to yell at random White people about how they will take over and having the Whites cringe and bow.
Your average Black street thug might be flat dead broke, but will have a lot of kids, by different women, and can make the Wall Street Master of the Universe grovel and abase himself. Your average rrrriot grrrrl! with purple hair, “problem” glasses, and 100 pounds overweight in a corporate cubicle might be a serf in all other regards but can make the most successful nerd abase themselves and grovel.
Your average White man wants: Blacks to follow the same laws as everyone else, and act White, be mostly monogamous, don’t have kids they can’t support, and go to work every week. They want women to be non-slutty and feminine, and gays to stop proclaiming promiscuity is a wise choice. That’s it. And its completely a non-starter with the other groups.
Dems quickly and organically in the 1970s realized that promoting libertinism and poverty as twin aspects of their agenda would be winners. Republicans are mostly cucks trying to appease and placate women instead of gaming and dominating them.
Consider “regret rape.” That’s a winner for women because it will price out 90% of men from even approaching them, giving them a dream — preselected Alphas and a harem like environment which women love. That’s the whole point of Democratic politics, a hereditary nobility in government impoverishing the people by also giving all but White men hedonistic libertinism and general vice.
When the GOP started moving away from Rockefeller model of (Thatcherite) Republicanism (Till Reagan) to modern theocratic GOP, it got painted as a southern bible-belt party mainly for social conservatives. The “Nones”, who are intellectual and well off were scared off by the Jesus people. That seems to be the end of GOP of ideas and rise of dumb GOP. Trump and Cruz are just the latest symptoms of dumbed down GOP.Replies: @marc w
That would describe me certainly. When the Republican party is the party of Theocracy + Wall Street + Immigration + Stupid Wars then they give me close to zero reason to vote for them. It’s only the left’s suicidal embrace of immigration in general and Muslim immigration in particular combined with the rise of Trump that has forced me right. I used to describe myself as an atheist leftist, but when leftism has as it’s (perhaps only?) core tenet mass immigration then I can’t really call myself a leftist anymore.
A lot of religious talk can no doubt be very motivating for the believers, but it’s pretty darn scary and crazy for those of us who don’t share the religion. I could go on and on about how much I despise the religious right, but for now I’ll just say that I hope they get around to vote for Trump when their guy Cruz is finally defeated.
A lot of religious talk can no doubt be very motivating for the believers, but it's pretty darn scary and crazy for those of us who don't share the religion. I could go on and on about how much I despise the religious right, but for now I'll just say that I hope they get around to vote for Trump when their guy Cruz is finally defeated.Replies: @midtown
Marc, is it simply the presence of religious conservatives that scares you away or is it a policy issue? They would say they are just playing defense at this point — fighting for the right to be left alone and not fired for being religious.
Yes, non-retired whites with low incomes. Retired whites have been the victims of redistribution of Medicare funds for the Medicaid portion of Obamacare, which mostly benefits immigrants and their US-born descendants.
It seems like Steve feels more nostalgic for The San Fernando Valley of 1982, rather than The San Fernando Valley of 1958.Replies: @Eric Novak
I, too, am nostalgic for the “I’m so wasted!” America of Jeff Spicolli. It sure beats America’s diversity freakshow and the attendant machine of redistribution necessary to prop it up.
The fringe already outnumbers the mainstream. Married White people do not make up over 50 percent of The U.S population.
Also if being a minority automatically makes you fringe, than married White people are a fringe in this country as well. No one is a majority in this country except for White people regardless of their marital status.Replies: @Eric Novak
Unmarried young adults and the old who have lost their spouses aren’t really part of the fringe. Did married people ever outnumber the married?
Of course the Democrats aren't the "black party". And not due to the race of voters but also the race of elected officials at EVERY level, donors, consultants, hacks etc. Vast majority are WHITE people.
Remember Sailer's claim that the majority of American people who voted for Obama TWICE are the "coalition of the fringes"!!!!
Because to Steve America is really the San Fernando Valley 1958 FOREVER.Yeah, he's "literally" a boy! As are most 57 year old White men in America.
Like Donna Edwards is a "colored gal".Replies: @Jus' Sayin'..., @Jack D, @Mr. Anon, @Das, @Jefferson, @Eric Novak
The majority of the American people qualified to vote stayed home on Election Day 2012. Steve’s San Fernando Valley is that of 1977. Gosh, who would want to live in that setting?
Steve talks about the early 1980s a lot more than he does the late 1970s, that why I say he feels way more nostalgic for 1982 than he does for 1977.
Anyways what's wrong with The San Fernando Valley in 1977? It seems like a crazy and fun time.
https://youtu.be/fpV4dDBkSDQ
“The majority of the American people qualified to vote stayed home on Election Day 2012. Steve’s San Fernando Valley is that of 1977. Gosh, who would want to live in that setting?”
Steve talks about the early 1980s a lot more than he does the late 1970s, that why I say he feels way more nostalgic for 1982 than he does for 1977.
Anyways what’s wrong with The San Fernando Valley in 1977? It seems like a crazy and fun time.
“My fondest wish is that someday, some national figure says, “I’m pro-life, but only for white babies,” just to watch the devotees of common sense and simple human decency try to explain why that’s even worse than being pro-life for everyone.”
I’m pro-life only for white conservatives.
Liberals and minorities are welcome to have all the abortions their little tiny hearts desire.
The states-rights abortion position would affectuate this. Abortion would be legal in a handful of right and left coast diverse states and illegal elsewhere in flyover country.
Van Hollen also grandstanded all over the DC snipers, especially when it was thought, for no particular reason, that they were white. The fact that they turned out to be two black Muslims was quickly flushed down the memory hole.
I could not care less about Maryland, but I hope this s**t head loses to the Angry Entitled Black Woman. He helped promote them; let him deal with the consequences.