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From the New York Times news section:
France Sees an Existential Threat from American Campuses
Politicians and prominent intellectuals say social theories from the United States on race, gender and post-colonialism are a threat to French identity and the French republic.
By Norimitsu Onishi
Feb. 9, 2021PARIS — The threat is said to be existential. It fuels secessionism. Gnaws at national unity. Abets Islamism. Attacks France’s intellectual and cultural heritage.
The threat? “Certain social science theories entirely imported from the United States,’’ said President Emmanuel Macron.
French politicians, high-profile intellectuals and journalists are warning that progressive American ideas — specifically on race, gender, post-colonialism — are undermining their society. “There’s a battle to wage against an intellectual matrix from American universities,’’ warned Mr. Macron’s education minister.
Emboldened by these comments, prominent intellectuals have banded together against what they regard as contamination by the out-of-control woke leftism of American campuses and its attendant cancel culture.
Pitted against them is a younger, more diverse guard that considers these theories as tools to understanding the willful blind spots of an increasingly diverse nation that still recoils at the mention of race, has yet to come to terms with its colonial past and often waves away the concerns of minorities as identity politics.
Nobody in America, being protected by the Atlantic Ocean, has yet noticed the World’s Most Important Graph. But the French are very concerned about what the population explosion in sub-Saharan Africa. Combine the raw material of billions of additional sub-Saharans, many of them intent on crossing the Mediterranean, with the anti-white black supremacist dogmas of American universities and, yeah, the term “existential threat” is not an exaggeration in the long run for France.
… The publication this month of a book critical of racial studies by two veteran social scientists, Stéphane Beaud and Gérard Noiriel, fueled criticism from younger scholars — and has received extensive news coverage. …
The fierce French debate over a handful of academic disciplines on U.S. campuses may surprise those who have witnessed the gradual decline of American influence in many corners of the world.
Huh? I’d say that when the death of a fentanyl-abusing bouncer in Minneapolis leads to riots around the world, American influence is riding high.
… Mass protests in France against police violence, inspired by the killing of George Floyd, challenged the official dismissal of race and systemic racism.
… Some saw the reach of American identity politics and social science theories. Some center-right lawmakers pressed for a parliamentary investigation into “ideological excesses’’ at universities and singled out “guilty’’ scholars on Twitter.
Mr. Macron — who had shown little interest in these matters in the past but has been courting the right ahead of elections next year — jumped in last June, when he blamed universities for encouraging the “ethnicization of the social question’’ — amounting to “breaking the republic in two.’’
“I was pleasantly astonished,’’ said Nathalie Heinich, a sociologist who last month helped create an organization against “decolonialism and identity politics.’’ Made up of established figures, many retired, the group has issued warnings about American-inspired social theories in major publications like Le Point and Le Figaro. …
France has long laid claim to a national identity, based on a common culture, fundamental rights and core values like equality and liberty, rejecting diversity and multiculturalism. The French often see the United States as a fractious society at war with itself.
But far from being American, many of the leading thinkers behind theories on gender, race, post-colonialism and queer theory came from France — as well as the rest of Europe, South America, Africa and India, said Anne Garréta, a French writer who teaches literature at universities in France and at Duke.
“It’s an entire global world of ideas that circulates,’’ she said. “It just happens that campuses that are the most cosmopolitan and most globalized at this point in history are the American ones. ’’
The French state does not compile racial statistics, which is illegal, describing it as part of its commitment to universalism and treating all citizens equally under the law. To many scholars on race, however, the reluctance is part of a long history of denying racism in France and the country’s slave-trading and colonial past.
“What’s more French than the racial question in a country that was built around those questions?’’ said Mame-Fatou Niang, who divides her time between France and the United States, where she teaches French studies at Carnegie Mellon University. …
Pap Ndiaye, a historian who led efforts to establish Black studies in France, said it was no coincidence that the current wave of anti-American rhetoric began growing just as the first protests against racism and police violence took place last June.
“There was the idea that we’re talking too much about racial questions in France,’’ he said. “That’s enough.’’
Three Islamist attacks last fall served as a reminder that terrorism remains a threat in France. They also focused attention on another hot-button field of research: Islamophobia, which examines how hostility toward Islam in France, rooted in its colonial experience in the Muslim world, continues to shape the lives of French Muslims.
Abdellali Hajjat, an expert on Islamophobia, said that it became increasingly difficult to focus on his subject after 2015, when devastating terror attacks hit Paris. Government funding for research dried up. Researchers on the subject were accused of being apologists for Islamists and even terrorists.
Finding the atmosphere oppressive, Mr. Hajjat left two years ago to teach at the Free University of Brussels, in Belgium, where he said he found greater academic freedom.
“On the question of Islamophobia, it’s only in France where there is such violent talk in rejecting the term,’’ he said.
Mr. Macron’s education minister, Jean-Michel Blanquer, accused universities, under American influence, of being complicit with terrorists by providing the intellectual justification behind their acts.
A group of 100 prominent scholars wrote an open letter supporting the minister and decrying theories “transferred from North American campuses” in Le Monde.
A signatory, Gilles Kepel, an expert on Islam, said that American influence had led to “a sort of prohibition in universities to think about the phenomenon of political Islam in the name of a leftist ideology that considers it the religion of the underprivileged.’’
Along with Islamophobia, it was through the “totally artificial importation’’ in France of the “American-style Black question” that some were trying to draw a false picture of a France guilty of “systemic racism’’ and “white privilege,’’ said Pierre-André Taguieff, a historian and a leading critic of the American influence.
Mr. Taguieff said in an email that researchers of race, Islamophobia and post-colonialism were motivated by a “hatred of the West, as a white civilization.’’
“The common agenda of these enemies of European civilization can be summed up in three words: decolonize, demasculate, de-Europeanize,’’ Mr. Taguieff said. “Straight white male — that’s the culprit to condemn and the enemy to eliminate.”
French intellectuals are pretty good at discerning the underlying logic of ideas.
But wasn’t it the French intellectuals who gave us this shit in the first place?
Yup. We’re just slapping the ball back over the tennis net, and they’re acting annoyed about it.
Typical.Replies: @Eugene Norman
They gave post-modernism to the world, sending Critical Race Theory back to them seems quite fair.
Communist sex pervert Simone de Beauvoir was the first feminazi , long before the capitalist pig Ford, Carnegie and Rockefeller foundations created and funded Jew commies Betty Friedan Buffalo Bella Abzug Lynn Stewart and others to create the feminazi movement and bring down wages for everyone, men and women alike.
Simone de Beauvoir was the running dog of John Paul Sartre, beloved commie of every idiot intellectual in the world for decades. They, like Frank Fanon were shoved in the rest of the world by the French government and establishment the was school bussing was shoved in America by ADL AJC and Jew attorneys
Fun facts about pioneering feminazi liberated woman Beauvoir. Although they were communists. Sartre was very aware that the de Beauvoir family was several steps below the Sartre family in the numerous layers of the middle class. Because of that, he never introduced her to his family. 50 years of living together in brave free love and he never brought her to family events and holiday gatherings. What a snob, just like another idiot intellectual hero Jean Jacques Rosseau and his life partner Therese Levasseur, mother of his five children who he dumped in orphanages at 2 days old.
Beauvoir taught high school. She groomed as it’s known today; some of the girls with her intellectual discussions of evil bourgeois catholic sex repression. French high school girls didn’t really date in those days. So where to experiment with sex? Defy stuffy old Mom and the Catholic Church? Creepy old Jean Paul. She’d have little gatherings preaching communism and free love and give the willing ones to Sartre. After she warmed them up with some lesbian sex. Verrry similar to the Maxwell Epstein arrangement.
What goes around comes around. Propagandize 3 generations of American college students with Sartre Fanon communism existentialism and the rest and it’s bound to come back.
This shit is all original sin, human depravity and guilt, reprobation, rituals of atonement leading to salvation, plus Garden of Eden narratives in which the foreign creatures of the jungle are holy innocents who must be protected from evil reprobates, by the Elect. Are YOU saved?
In short, it's Puritanism and its hysterical child Evangelicism. Some Lutheran Pietism in there but it was John Calvin who really put the fuel on the fire which launched this crusade, and the USA plus northwest Europe are the superspreaders.
Don't believe me? Ask an Italian or a Greek how they feel about Original Sin. In fact ask a Frenchman as we see here. Even though Calvin started it, the idea of depravity and guilt as a basis for belief only caught hold in NW Europe, is it prorammed into Germanic genes?
Because “French” intellectuals at French universities never contributed anything to the academic demoralization war against the US.
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Capitol “Insurrection” led by FBI
https://time.com/5937535/us-capitol-riot-fbi-oath-keepers/
Once again confirming that the FBI does not know how to do law enforcement, the only thing the FBI ever does is trick harmless idiots into committing fake crimes, and all that is needed to defeat the FBI is a little healthy paranoia. And that the Capitol “Insurrection” was largely nothing.
Still no word on who burned down that police station in Minnesota, or what sentence they can expect.
I am now persuaded that January 6 was a false-flag op all the way, and now rehashed (but NOT examined critically) by the MSM whores. No one on MSNBC, CNN, or any network (except for Tucker Carlson) has either the brains, the integrity, or the courage to ask the hard questions about all of the FBI informants leading the actions on January 6.
They have video of someone planting at least one of these.
I'm sure the Keystone Kapitol Kops are working 24/7 on this.
Since they were planted the night before the Trump rally, 'it was no accident' that they were there. Both are said to have had crude timers but neither went off.
So, FBI false flag? Someone else? Antifa? BLM?
What is known for certain is that some person or group was intent on creating a 'blame Trump for violence' event and nearly did so. Even absent the subsequent protest march to the Capitol building. .
So my money is on Nancy Pelosi. Those impeachment docs were already in her printer queue.
France would be better off without American intellectual ideas. And America would be better off without French intellectual ideas.
I don’t think the underlying ideas are all that complex to discern. The French, of all peoples, are just exhibiting the courage to stand up against the prevailing orthodoxy. Ron Desantis is doing a similar thing with the Corona-scam in Florida.
It turns out that if you have the truth you still need a little courage—something conspicuously absent from most western leaders today.
Franz Fanon is not American.
I suppose the French navy could start helping refugees get to New Orleans instead of helping them across the Channel.
Riots protesting police in France had other reasons for protesting. Ask the Gilets Jaunes.
And-Both, not Either-Or.
1. .. for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
2. The biter bit.
etc. etc.
I was a student in Paris in the late 70’s. French intellectuals even then were struggling against the onslaught of American culture. “Franglais”, Hollywood, and Fast Food were the targets. “Mayo or ketchup with those McDonald’s fries Madame?” The complaints seem quaint now. You could always choose not to have lunch at McD’s or say “non” to a pair of “les Bluejeans”. But choosing to ignore a million Sub-Saharans and Jihadists crowding Les Champs Elysees…..Ca c’est difficile!
They are a threat to civilization itself, and it’s a contest they intend to win.
Our influence has pumped out toxic Jewish minoritarian nonsense across the West and the results--a disaster, political insanity, looming civilizational collapse--speak for themselves. (Only the white peoples protected by the iron curtain seem in marginally better shape, but our influence grinds away at them every year.)
And this is quite the reversal. The really bad ideas used to come from Europe, and American ideas while not necessarily brilliant, and occasionally overly idealistic and/or half-baked, tended toward being grounded in the empirical and practical. American "can do".
No one sane and loyal wants what we are selling now. Anyone propagandizing our toxic minoritarianism is someone who hates their own nation.Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
Charles de Gaulle:
It’s the French language associations, the Alliance Francaise, the Academie universities international Lycee Francaise high schools all over the world and others who’ve been pushing this Arab and African embrace and immigration
1650-1950 French was the common language of educated Europeans and the common language of diplomacy all over the world. Any French person could move abroad and get a job teaching French. Now it’s British and Americans who do that. But after the war, NATO, decolonization American movies TV music English became the world language.
The International French language associations are obsolete. There is only one White French speaking nation in the world, France. Plus teeny Monaco and Luxembourg and French speaking provinces in Canada Switzerland and Belgium. And Lafayette university and some French heritage groups in Louisiana USA. All together, those provinces and principalities don’t equal France.
What’s left are gazillions of Arabs and Africans, breeding more and more every year thanks to aid from idiot White countries and NGOs. The French language disappeared from Algeria decades ago. Now they study English instead of French. But the treaties that allow Algerians to move to France are still in place.
The only French speaking countries other than France are African. So the French language lobbyists schools establishment are looking to Africa to preserve the French language. And not just the language, but popular and high brow literature, movies poetry.
It’s really a big big deal. The schools in France are madly inserting African and Arab writings in French literature classes. The language associations are in Africa funding and running organizations to create French African literature music plays and movies . And bring it back to France They are still in AlgeriaTunisia Morocco Lebanon other bits and pieces of former colonies but it’s a losing cause as those countries prefer English.
But there’s still French speaking Africa where White French nationality ethnicity teachers are trying to create French African movies short stories poetry.
Latin gave way to French as the lingua franca of Europe and international diplomacy. French has given way to English But they can’t accept it and try to preserve it as an international language in Africa the most useless place on earth.
It’s really disgusting what they’re doing and have been doing for the last 60 years.
No worse that America inserting Hispanic African American Indian scribblings into English literature classes, or England inserting African Caribbean scribblings into English literature classes.
The language chauvinism is a major reason France has been browning itself for the last 60 years.Replies: @Anonymous
Between differing birth rates and even reduced (but not halted) immigration, that 30% likely will rise by 1/2% to 1% a year. In 10 to 20 years, births in France will be between 40% and 50% non-white and between 30% and 40% Muslim. A France where a third or more of the under 30 population is Muslim and 40% to 50% non-white in total won't make it.
Unless France dramatically changes course right now, it'll seal its fate in a decade or two.
The demographics in the US are worse in the sense non-white births, but the vast majority of our non-whites are Hispanics and, increasingly, Asian. Blacks are a problem, but if we hold the line with them, we can handle it. Hispanics aren't great, but they don't compare to Muslims. Imagine if our Hispanic population was Muslim. That's the future of France.
Ten or twenty years. That's all the time that France has to save itself. I don't see it happening, but, hopefully, I'm wrong.
Notice there is a special word “islamophobia” for the supposed crimes of the un-woke French, which even designates a whole academic field of study (Abdellali Hajjat is a scholar of it).
There doesn’t seem to be a word for the larger problem of hostility toward the ancestral French population.
More applied-Whorfianism. Without a word for that problem how can anyone reason about it?
One thing France has going for it is that it’s been on the defensive since 1871 when it lost the Franco-Prussian War to Germany.
Since then it rapidly lost relative power and status on the Continent to Germany, internationally to the US and USSR, lost and retreated from its colonies, etc.
This long retreat and decline has inculcated a skepticism and fear of American influence for a long time.
Both the French left and right have had anti-American tendencies, and centrists like de Gaulle have been wary of the US.
One of the best sellers in France in the 60s was “The American Challenge”:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Jacques_Servan-Schreiber#The_American_Challenge
But that was 1967 when France resisted American influence. Now it’s 2021 and I doubt France can resist Arab African influence. Americans never immigrated to France en masse and imposed out culture in France . Arabs and Africans did with the full cooperation and help from the French government and all sectors of society. It’s no longer blue jeans It’s burkas and FMG.Replies: @Veracitor
That fable about Levi Strauss coming to the gold rush with jeans cloth for tents and deciding to use it for sturdy work pants is just that a fable. He came with a load of ready made work pants in blue and brown denim.
Denim was the favored fabric for women’s horse back riding, travel and work clothes too.
So jeans came back to France from America and all those French intellectuals ignored the millions of French men wearing blue denim work clothes. That’s what European idiot intellectuals are; America hating nit pickers.
“I’n surprised that your children are so well behaved for Americans” f’em
“ But wasn’t it the French intellectuals who gave us this shit in the first place?”
Yup. We’re just slapping the ball back over the tennis net, and they’re acting annoyed about it.
Typical.
White privilege is an entirely American idea.
“Fear of a Blank Planet:” title of a pretty good Porcupine Tree album from awhile back. Obviously, the French are trying to plagiarize.
Yup. Guys like Derrida and Baudrillard are still major figures in college syllabuses. Derrida taught for years at UC Irvine. Their whole schtick was deconstructing Western Civ, though from the safety of oak-paneled studies in lovely French cities. Anyway, the French refusal to extradite Jewish killer Ira Einhorn tells you all you need to know about their morality.
However, others useless French intellectuals such as Lacan, are not.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @Anonymouse
I can send a copy of Trump’s 1776 Commission Report to France.
French intellectuals aren’t the only thinking people to have figured this stuff out.
Well put, PM.
oh lookee, more conservative commentators online being duped–yet again–by triangulating politicians who will not of course live up to their rhetoric once reelected…
I will say that very slowly for you: macron (and the establishment that backs him) are using RHETORIC to cut off Le Pen prior to the next election…triangulating…
once reelected, all this rhetoric will be lost like tears in rain…
once many times are you conservatives gonna fall for these tricks?
But wasn’t it the French intellectuals who gave us this shit in the first place?
They gave post-modernism to the world, sending Critical Race Theory back to them seems quite fair.
Batshit-crazy “social science theories” that nobody believes in are no threat to France. If it wants to protect its “intellectual and cultural heritage” it should stop importing Africans.
Oh, good grief, you think the Atlantic is going to protect us?
You mean Fellow French intellectuals?
Since then it rapidly lost relative power and status on the Continent to Germany, internationally to the US and USSR, lost and retreated from its colonies, etc.
This long retreat and decline has inculcated a skepticism and fear of American influence for a long time.
Both the French left and right have had anti-American tendencies, and centrists like de Gaulle have been wary of the US.
One of the best sellers in France in the 60s was "The American Challenge":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Jacques_Servan-Schreiber#The_American_ChallengeReplies: @Rob McX, @Alden, @Alden
True. It’s always been wary of Germany in particular. Mitterrand was against German unification after the collapse of communism in 1989. But what use is “status” when you don’t have a country any more? It’s destroying itself from within and replacing its own people with immigrants who are outbreeding them at an alarming rate. In case that weren’t enough, it has made it illegal to compile racial statistics on the population. I’d much rather belong to a country that’s a has-been as a world power but keeps its borders closed.
At the hands, or knees, of a non-fentanyl-using bouncer at the same club. Did they ever share a shift?
Pap Ndiaye = Nappy idea!
Mame-Fatou Niang = Fine, nougat mama.
Anne Françoise Garréta = Arrange a serf nation.
Nathalie Heinich = Inhale a niche hit.
“Taguieff was himself accused of racism on several occasions, for instance when he praised Oriana Fallaci’s book The Rage and the Pride, a book that some anti-racist militants consider to be racist.”
— https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre-Andr%C3%A9_Taguieff#On_racism
Pierre-André Taguieff = Ruing a repeated riff, feared a pier turfing; feared a gunfire trip.
Abdellali Hajjat = Liable lad at hajj.
Norimitsu Onishi = Ominous Irish nit.
FIFY.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
We have already had the first African boat people https://www.johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/RadioDerb/2011-03-11.html#06a With modern GPS navigation, the Atlantic’s not that hard. People-smuggling’s in its infancy.
The state of Tamil Nadu in India has over 70 million ethnic Tamils, and is only 100 miles from Sri Lanka. But it’s understandable how they got lost and just accidentally wound up 10,000 miles away, in one of the richest countries on the planet. Easy mistake.Replies: @Bill Jones, @Buffalo Joe
I don’t have the link handy, but about two weeks ago, a major European polling firm had Macron leading by just four points over Le Pen, in a theoretical (and quite likely) 2022 run-off rematch.
I thought these ideas came from France in the first place? And don’t these ideas go all the way back to Rousseau?
Those chickens coming home to roost.
Given the nature of France’s post-war public intellectuals, I fear the call is coming from inside the house now. The only thing that will be dealt with is ‘Islamism’ due to a fear it may influence policy on Israel. Everything else will proceed the same. A lot of people will say ‘So long as they’re not Muslim’. Brother, if you’re already bargaining on that, you’re toast, you won’t be able to set any limits.
But he is correct that in the US there is an infrastructure to promote and amplify these ideas and reward race hustlers that causes problems abroad.
It’s notable that the fields of sociology and psychology are thoroughly US-dominated. No other academic fields are this way. (Except ones which deal with the US specifically)
Exactly. America is an intellectual colony of Europe, and not the other way around. The entire Liberal Revolution of the 1960’s, which started in the humanities department at Berkeley University, was inspired by the post-modern French philosophers like Foucault and Derrida. Their entire postulation is that there are no objective truths. Hence, all laws, history, social and gender differences, are constructs. This, coupled with the failures of Marxist class struggles, combined with a neo-Marxist ideology where race – still a social construct to them – has replaced class as the oppressive class.
I should note too that in South Africa where universities use English as the language of instruction almost universally (The few Afrikaans universities remaining are having that status eroded over time and fewer and fewer Afrikaans classes) that the Fallist protests were inspired by the great campus freak out that occurred in the US in late 2014 through the promotion of images in real time over Twitter. The language and other aspects are very similar to American CRT.
In a way it also anticipated the attack on any monuments associated with whites. (More than a few image compilations of BLM-inspired vandalism mistakenly included a shot of the cenotaph on the UCT campus in Cape Town with ‘Fuck white people’ as one in Britain)
Same energy as 2020 BLM protests.
This is the future, soon all public intellectuals and sociologists will discover this is actually what every Western country was secretly built around. Even Iceland.
The large Jewish influx into the richest and most powerful nation of the West–especially one without a specific long-fixed core ethny defining the nation and with our “legacy of slavery” racial issue to exploit–has been an absolute disaster for the West.
Our influence has pumped out toxic Jewish minoritarian nonsense across the West and the results–a disaster, political insanity, looming civilizational collapse–speak for themselves. (Only the white peoples protected by the iron curtain seem in marginally better shape, but our influence grinds away at them every year.)
And this is quite the reversal. The really bad ideas used to come from Europe, and American ideas while not necessarily brilliant, and occasionally overly idealistic and/or half-baked, tended toward being grounded in the empirical and practical. American “can do”.
No one sane and loyal wants what we are selling now. Anyone propagandizing our toxic minoritarianism is someone who hates their own nation.
Ps speaking of Henry James, for a very brief time I once played in a post-punk band called "Strether's First Question". Real HJ die-hards will have a larf.
Africa to the United States is nothing. A boat full of 492 Tamil “refugees” (the MV Sun Sea) managed to make it all the way from Sri Lanka to Vancouver, B.C. back in 2010.
The state of Tamil Nadu in India has over 70 million ethnic Tamils, and is only 100 miles from Sri Lanka. But it’s understandable how they got lost and just accidentally wound up 10,000 miles away, in one of the richest countries on the planet. Easy mistake.
French intellectuals actually inspired American campuses, and not the other way around. The entire Liberal Revolution of the 1960’s, which started in the Humanities department at Berkeley University, was inspired by the post-modernism of French philosophers like Foucault and Derrida. Their entire postulation is that there are no objective truths. Hence, all laws, standards and conventions are just arbitrary impositions of those who hold power. They suggested that all values result from individual perception and subjective value-judgements. There are objective facts; but there are no objective truths. A truth is a fact intepreted through the lense of convenience and personal interpretations of worth. Those literature and sociology professors at Berkeley could never have come up with these concepts on their own. They are just not smart enough. They got them from their French daddies.
This post-modern philosophy combined with Marxism to create the neo-leftist ideology. With the failure of classic Marxism, the Marxists switched their focus from the capitalist class to race. The new oppressor class are now White Males. Using post-modern thinking, “Whiteness” is now a construct that this class uses to oppress minorities. “Gender” is a construct that White Males use to justify their ownersip of women’s bodies, and things like art, culture and scientfic accomplishments, at which White Males excel, are not objectively superior, but just “Eurocentrism”, used to justify the dominance of whites over non-whites.
Post-modernism gave Marxism a new intellectual framework to work with, and to reinvent itself.
The really crazy thing is that the leaders of this movements, at the highest echelon, are cold, dettached intellectuals that do not have the best interests of those students they intellectually lead at heart. They feign concern for minorities and for the white students that are inspired by them, who they seek to release from “whiteness”.
In reality, they despise those people as stupid and cretinous, worthless pawns in their struggle for power. The “useful idiots” Lenin talked about. Some of these intellectuals are Jewish, and hate the West because they see white people as their rivals for World dominance. Others are non-Jewish, but hate other white people and seek to destroy Western Societies because they feel that intellectuals such as themselves are not rewarded with women and power like men that are not nearly as smart as they are, but have the aggressiveness and hard-charging personas to reach the heights of the business and political World and be rewarded with women and power.
This is all fascinating to me, as it is a case-study in human psychology on an unprescedented scale, and it puts into perspective how powerful the feeling of resentment is.
Resentment, thou are the destroyer of civilizations!
Rousseau likely was touched with a combo of perversion, resentment, guilt and greed. Good old fashioned sin nature stuff.
I'd enjoy getting your take on some specific people.
“Pitted against them is a younger, more diverse guard that considers these theories as tools to understanding the willful blind spots of an increasingly diverse nation that still recoils at the mention of race, has yet to come to terms with its colonial past and often waves away the concerns of minorities as identity politics.“
France has come to terms with its colonial past in the only way colonizing countries have ever been expected to come to terms with such pasts: it has let its colonies go. It is the people in and from the old colonies that don’t want to let go of France.
I suspect 'coming to terms with its colonial past' is code for reparations.Replies: @Anonymous
It is just weird that they are never criticized for this.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @LondonBob, @Reg Cæsar, @Wilkey
Which raises an important question: to what degree has Macron’s language been translated into any actual policy? Is he really moving right, or is this all just boob bait for French bubbas?
France has come to terms with its colonial past in the only way colonizing countries have ever been expected to come to terms with such pasts: it has let its colonies go. It is the people in and from the old colonies that don’t want to let go of France.Replies: @photondancer, @AKAHorace
“France has come to terms with its colonial past in the only way colonizing countries have ever been expected to come to terms with such pasts: it has let its colonies go.”
I suspect ‘coming to terms with its colonial past’ is code for reparations.
It might serve as an effective flourish to close the article with “French intellectuals are pretty good at discerning the underlying logic of ideas,” but anyone who is led by that sentence to think that Pierre-André Taguieff is an ally of white people, least of all white Christians, needs to think again. Like Alain de Benoist and many other members of the European New Right, Taguieff can’t quite decide which he detests more: Europe’s Jewish and Third World present or its Christian past.
Probably boob bait. Unlike most white countries, France has a viable anti-immigration party. The corrupt mainstream parties have to try harder to pretend they’re making the “far right” redundant. Unfortunately, many voters fall for it.
"Always has been"
France is already overrun with a third world population, so even without US ideologies they will eventually reach the same conclusion. Demographics is destiny.
I’m pretty sure both Derrida and Baudrillard are Jewish.
However, others useless French intellectuals such as Lacan, are not.
And, most importantly- a complete obscurantist. Philosopher Sir Roger Scruton wrote in 2004, "He's difficult to summarise because it's nonsense."
https://i.gifer.com/Z4Cs.gifReplies: @Dumbo, @Rob McX
France has come to terms with its colonial past in the only way colonizing countries have ever been expected to come to terms with such pasts: it has let its colonies go. It is the people in and from the old colonies that don’t want to let go of France.Replies: @photondancer, @AKAHorace
Sorry, I have made this point before here, but France has kept a lot of it’s colonies compared to other European powers. All of their islands in the Pacific as well as a lot of islands in the Caribbean and Indian Ocean, an Austrian sized piece of South America and a few other islands scattered around the world. This could be useful to them in the long term.
It is just weird that they are never criticized for this.
https://i.redd.it/3qgq65y5evx21.jpgReplies: @Joe Stalin
Macron’s interactions with Blacks are…..interesting….
Forgetting about present-day France for a moment- when the NY Times byline reads “Norimitsu Onishi,” I have to ask myself, “Who exactly won World War Two?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qo6Eqy9c8sNathalie Heinich = Inhale a niche hit."Taguieff was himself accused of racism on several occasions, for instance when he praised Oriana Fallaci's book The Rage and the Pride, a book that some anti-racist militants consider to be racist."
-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre-Andr%C3%A9_Taguieff#On_racismPierre-André Taguieff = Ruing a repeated riff, feared a pier turfing; feared a gunfire trip.Abdellali Hajjat = Liable lad at hajj.Norimitsu Onishi = Ominous Irish nit.Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @TTSSYF
Anne Françoise Garréta = Arrange a serf nation çé.
FIFY.
Anne Françoise Garréta = Cæsar not arrange fine!
(Not the only error-- Mr Taylor hit the "Thanks" button, and that stood for hours. His face must be red.)Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
France ‘officially curtailed’ so called ‘labor immigration’ from the third world in 1974.
Most of France’s third world population immigrated after that date.
France will become majority non white in population by mid century – no difference there with the USA.
Everything else is just meaningless posturing.
It is just weird that they are never criticized for this.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @LondonBob, @Reg Cæsar, @Wilkey
France kept the really nice places like Tahiti.
In contrast the British never stayed when they could leave and will still bore you with endless talk about their lost empire and how it makes them interesting.Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Muggles
Shades of Northern Ireland or Quebec.
However, others useless French intellectuals such as Lacan, are not.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @Anonymouse
Foucault was from a Catholic family.
Yes, you should have remained part of the British Empire and ignored Voltaire and Rousseau, maybe Calvin too!
Really, if you are so stupid, then you deserve all you get. We in the rest of the world did not ask to be taken on this mad roller coaster of Americanism, but I suppose if we were stupid enough to believe your promises then we can’t complain.
It is just weird that they are never criticized for this.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @LondonBob, @Reg Cæsar, @Wilkey
There is Metropolitan France and Overseas France, these terroritories provide a pipeline of third worlders in to Europe, a leftover of French delusions of grandeur, an attempt to cope with the fact that they long got overtaken by Britain, Germany and Russia. Immigration was seen as a means to reverse their population stagnation to counter the Hun.
A lot of the overseas departments simply prefer the arrangement as French welfare is comparatively generous.
I’m old enough to remember Jean Jacques Servan-Schreiber’s ‘Le defi americaine’ – the American challenge – in the 1950s. This was a call to circle the wagons in a newly unifying Europe against the invasion of big US industrial companies. Sort of biting the hand that was then feeding Europe, but then that – the gauche plundering America – has been an effective call to a single Europe for almost ever. This time it’s different I think. The threat is real and closer and indeed existential. That there are ‘experts’ in Islamophobia sort of tells you it is already beyond rescue.
There doesn't seem to be a word for the larger problem of hostility toward the ancestral French population.
More applied-Whorfianism. Without a word for that problem how can anyone reason about it?Replies: @Redneck farmer
I believe French Islamophobia began with Charles Martel….
The only thing on my mind is whether I will witness to see France will fall to an Afro-Islamic regime. If it happens by the 2040s, then sadly I will very likely witness it. If it is more like the 2070s, then it is unlikely I will be around. Perhaps, the emerging Afro-Islamic regime would be kind enough to wait until I die.
Frankfurt School.
Actually, it’s German (Hegel, Marx, Heidegger) shit in French package.
Hypocrite DeGualle was the one who made them citizens with the right to move to France.
It’s the French language associations, the Alliance Francaise, the Academie universities international Lycee Francaise high schools all over the world and others who’ve been pushing this Arab and African embrace and immigration
1650-1950 French was the common language of educated Europeans and the common language of diplomacy all over the world. Any French person could move abroad and get a job teaching French. Now it’s British and Americans who do that. But after the war, NATO, decolonization American movies TV music English became the world language.
The International French language associations are obsolete. There is only one White French speaking nation in the world, France. Plus teeny Monaco and Luxembourg and French speaking provinces in Canada Switzerland and Belgium. And Lafayette university and some French heritage groups in Louisiana USA. All together, those provinces and principalities don’t equal France.
What’s left are gazillions of Arabs and Africans, breeding more and more every year thanks to aid from idiot White countries and NGOs. The French language disappeared from Algeria decades ago. Now they study English instead of French. But the treaties that allow Algerians to move to France are still in place.
The only French speaking countries other than France are African. So the French language lobbyists schools establishment are looking to Africa to preserve the French language. And not just the language, but popular and high brow literature, movies poetry.
It’s really a big big deal. The schools in France are madly inserting African and Arab writings in French literature classes. The language associations are in Africa funding and running organizations to create French African literature music plays and movies . And bring it back to France They are still in AlgeriaTunisia Morocco Lebanon other bits and pieces of former colonies but it’s a losing cause as those countries prefer English.
But there’s still French speaking Africa where White French nationality ethnicity teachers are trying to create French African movies short stories poetry.
Latin gave way to French as the lingua franca of Europe and international diplomacy. French has given way to English But they can’t accept it and try to preserve it as an international language in Africa the most useless place on earth.
It’s really disgusting what they’re doing and have been doing for the last 60 years.
No worse that America inserting Hispanic African American Indian scribblings into English literature classes, or England inserting African Caribbean scribblings into English literature classes.
The language chauvinism is a major reason France has been browning itself for the last 60 years.
> Riots protesting police in France had other reasons for protesting. Ask the Gilets Jaunes.
And-Both, not Either-Or.
Since then it rapidly lost relative power and status on the Continent to Germany, internationally to the US and USSR, lost and retreated from its colonies, etc.
This long retreat and decline has inculcated a skepticism and fear of American influence for a long time.
Both the French left and right have had anti-American tendencies, and centrists like de Gaulle have been wary of the US.
One of the best sellers in France in the 60s was "The American Challenge":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Jacques_Servan-Schreiber#The_American_ChallengeReplies: @Rob McX, @Alden, @Alden
That was 1967 when the black brown population of France was tiny. Now the cities and their suburbs are more black and brown than indigenous French. Yes, France unlike Germany did resist the English language. The French movie industry was vast and able to compete internationally with American English language movies. Who were the last French novelists widely translated probably Camus and Sagan.
But that was 1967 when France resisted American influence. Now it’s 2021 and I doubt France can resist Arab African influence. Americans never immigrated to France en masse and imposed out culture in France . Arabs and Africans did with the full cooperation and help from the French government and all sectors of society. It’s no longer blue jeans It’s burkas and FMG.
However, others useless French intellectuals such as Lacan, are not.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @Anonymouse
Only Derrida was Jewish. And gay.
And, most importantly- a complete obscurantist. Philosopher Sir Roger Scruton wrote in 2004, “He’s difficult to summarise because it’s nonsense.”
I also thought Roland Barthes was Jewish, but I think he wasn't (Barthes was actually not bad and wrote understandable stuff). Hw was gay, though. Maybe the common denominator is not Jewishness, but homosexuality?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qo6Eqy9c8sNathalie Heinich = Inhale a niche hit."Taguieff was himself accused of racism on several occasions, for instance when he praised Oriana Fallaci's book The Rage and the Pride, a book that some anti-racist militants consider to be racist."
-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre-Andr%C3%A9_Taguieff#On_racismPierre-André Taguieff = Ruing a repeated riff, feared a pier turfing; feared a gunfire trip.Abdellali Hajjat = Liable lad at hajj.Norimitsu Onishi = Ominous Irish nit.Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @TTSSYF
Why do you keep posting these meaningless comments and with all the pictures? And more importantly — why does Mr. Sailer let them pass through the whim filter?
Their faces speak volumes.
That Officer Chauvin and Mr Floyd were employed nights at the same small place is fascinating. It may even come up in the trial. Which the police are gearing up for.
However, others useless French intellectuals such as Lacan, are not.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @Anonymouse
Of what possible significance is the fact that Derrida was jewish? Do you imagine that his genetic makeup wrote his books? That is a materialistic reductionism. The thinking by brain scientists that takes place in physical brains may come some day to understand the workings of the physical brain in which thoughts take place. It does not follow that understanding the processes of physical brains or identifying their genetic ancestry amounts to understanding the thinking that those physical brains produce.
At least most of the anti France French Marxists were native French citizens instead of Russian and German Jew communist immigrants. Frank Fanon was mixed French and black from one of the islands. Leader of the 1968 riots was a Jew Daniel Cohn Bendit Levy. Other than those 2 the rest were all native French bent on destroying France as far as I know. There are probably more.
Communist sex pervert Simone de Beauvoir was the first feminazi , long before the capitalist pig Ford, Carnegie and Rockefeller foundations created and funded Jew commies Betty Friedan Buffalo Bella Abzug Lynn Stewart and others to create the feminazi movement and bring down wages for everyone, men and women alike.
Simone de Beauvoir was the running dog of John Paul Sartre, beloved commie of every idiot intellectual in the world for decades. They, like Frank Fanon were shoved in the rest of the world by the French government and establishment the was school bussing was shoved in America by ADL AJC and Jew attorneys
Fun facts about pioneering feminazi liberated woman Beauvoir. Although they were communists. Sartre was very aware that the de Beauvoir family was several steps below the Sartre family in the numerous layers of the middle class. Because of that, he never introduced her to his family. 50 years of living together in brave free love and he never brought her to family events and holiday gatherings. What a snob, just like another idiot intellectual hero Jean Jacques Rosseau and his life partner Therese Levasseur, mother of his five children who he dumped in orphanages at 2 days old.
Beauvoir taught high school. She groomed as it’s known today; some of the girls with her intellectual discussions of evil bourgeois catholic sex repression. French high school girls didn’t really date in those days. So where to experiment with sex? Defy stuffy old Mom and the Catholic Church? Creepy old Jean Paul. She’d have little gatherings preaching communism and free love and give the willing ones to Sartre. After she warmed them up with some lesbian sex. Verrry similar to the Maxwell Epstein arrangement.
What goes around comes around. Propagandize 3 generations of American college students with Sartre Fanon communism existentialism and the rest and it’s bound to come back.
Our influence has pumped out toxic Jewish minoritarian nonsense across the West and the results--a disaster, political insanity, looming civilizational collapse--speak for themselves. (Only the white peoples protected by the iron curtain seem in marginally better shape, but our influence grinds away at them every year.)
And this is quite the reversal. The really bad ideas used to come from Europe, and American ideas while not necessarily brilliant, and occasionally overly idealistic and/or half-baked, tended toward being grounded in the empirical and practical. American "can do".
No one sane and loyal wants what we are selling now. Anyone propagandizing our toxic minoritarianism is someone who hates their own nation.Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
Lately I’ve been re-reading Henry James’s “Portrait of a Lady,” which is really the only HJ novel I can tolerate. In these parlous times, it resonates on a lot of metaphorical and metaphysical levels that I doubt old Henry could ever have imagined.
Ps speaking of Henry James, for a very brief time I once played in a post-punk band called “Strether’s First Question”. Real HJ die-hards will have a larf.
I will say that very slowly for you: macron (and the establishment that backs him) are using RHETORIC to cut off Le Pen prior to the next election...triangulating...
once reelected, all this rhetoric will be lost like tears in rain...
once many times are you conservatives gonna fall for these tricks?Replies: @Alden, @Alden
Wonderful post, totally absolutely agree. I’m a White Nationalist, not a conservative, not an American patriot, a simple Whitest. To me, the American flag represents the on going genocide ethnic cleansing of White Americans.
I will say that very slowly for you: macron (and the establishment that backs him) are using RHETORIC to cut off Le Pen prior to the next election...triangulating...
once reelected, all this rhetoric will be lost like tears in rain...
once many times are you conservatives gonna fall for these tricks?Replies: @Alden, @Alden
There must be an election coming up.
France has pretty decent population growth without immigration. Very few French left for the New World. Not sure population growth was a factor here.
A lot of the overseas departments simply prefer the arrangement as French welfare is comparatively generous.
Despite all her weaknesses, France is still pretty good re public intellectuals’ obscurantism. Britain was, historically, the best (until recently). Germany, on the other hand, produced tons of obscurantist nonsense, from Hegel to Heidegger. There is much of truly deep thought out there, but also a horrible amount of nonsense.
A few fays ago, I lazily skimmed through some writings of a Marxist philosopher, Karl Korsch (incidentally- Marxism if full of Karls – Marx, Kautsky, Korsch, Liebknecht, …). Korsch was, doubtless, an intelligent man of integrity; he’d been an object of study & revival during the early Marx phase (alienation, reification, …), which lasted from the 60s to the 80s.
It is truly strange to read writings of an educated, well-meaning, erudite & frequently critical mind to find that he lacks ordinary common sense. I don’t mean this literally: modern fundamental physics is rational & empirical, but most of its central ideas (double slit experiment, quantum entanglement, quantum tunneling ..) go against ordinary “common sense”. And still, it is as scientific as anything under the sun.
Korsch, on the other hand, thought that Marxian future would give birth to a completely new type of science & that “Marxist mathematics” would be superior to “bourgeois mathematics”. He was not too explicit about it, but it was evident that he really, sincerely thought so.
What can I say? Speechless ….
Seems legit. What other kind of mathematics would a truly New Soviet Man even consider using?
What can I say? Speechless ….
Really? You don't remember this Man of Science™?
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https://www.lepoint.fr/images/2018/09/30/17212036lpw-17212031-article-jpg_5610987.jpgReplies: @Rob McX
Maybe it doesn’t matter so much that his wife happens to be a quarter century older than him. Her conjugal duties could be minimal, judging by those photos.
Yup. We’re just slapping the ball back over the tennis net, and they’re acting annoyed about it.
Typical.Replies: @Eugene Norman
Not quite. The Americans took the ideas of Foucault – which barely mentioned race – and added race to them.
White privilege is an entirely American idea.
Looks like France’s race problems are literally her …
bêtes noires
I suspect 'coming to terms with its colonial past' is code for reparations.Replies: @Anonymous
No. It’s code for suicide.
I wonder what France expert Norimitsu Onishi thinks about a couple million Africans shipped over to Japan?
They might as well just skip it. The two round system makes it impossible for her to win, even if most French voters sane enough to be worried weren’t so easily pacified by Macron’s empty gestures. French heads will continue to roll and French presidents will continue to pacify the public with the occasional sop. Even if Le Pen somehow miraculously won, France is just too far gone. I don’t see a way for that mess to end well. Best case scenario, it serves as a cautionary tale for countries that still have time to turn around. But at this point, even that seems way too optimistic.
The French moaning about imported bullshit academic theories undermining society. The lack of self awareness is actually funny given that bullshit academic theories have been one of their main exports since the 18th century.
France and Germany will be Islamic states in the next 50 years. Demographics is destiny and the whites of Europe have a fertility rate below 1.6 while the Muslims in Europe have a fertility rate twice as great, closer to 3
In addition to the higher fertility rates, the aboriginal Europeans have an average age of 43 compared to an average age of 30 for the invaders…The average Christian in Europe is pushing 50 while the average Muslim is under 30. It is near impossible now to change the trend.
I honestly would be shocked if more than 5% of indigenous European under 50s regularly offer public worship in Christian churches and it could well be even lower. To say Christianity is in crisis in Europe is to understate the reality...it is in complete and terminal collapse as a mass societal reality.
Of course, Christians will connect with each other in various "Benedict Option" responses and the Faith will continue but as a widely believed creed with cultural and social importance, Christianity is over in Europe.Replies: @fnn
Do you think Robespierre was inspired by resentment?
Rousseau likely was touched with a combo of perversion, resentment, guilt and greed. Good old fashioned sin nature stuff.
I’d enjoy getting your take on some specific people.
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Capitol "Insurrection" led by FBI
https://time.com/5937535/us-capitol-riot-fbi-oath-keepers/
Once again confirming that the FBI does not know how to do law enforcement, the only thing the FBI ever does is trick harmless idiots into committing fake crimes, and all that is needed to defeat the FBI is a little healthy paranoia. And that the Capitol "Insurrection" was largely nothing.
Still no word on who burned down that police station in Minnesota, or what sentence they can expect.Replies: @Paul Jolliffe, @Buffalo Joe, @Muggles
Oh, that guy was not a “harmless idiot” – he was a full-fledged agent provocateur, doing whatever he did at the express order of his handlers.
I am now persuaded that January 6 was a false-flag op all the way, and now rehashed (but NOT examined critically) by the MSM whores. No one on MSNBC, CNN, or any network (except for Tucker Carlson) has either the brains, the integrity, or the courage to ask the hard questions about all of the FBI informants leading the actions on January 6.
FIFY.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
Thanks. My server cannot digest strange Gallic ingredients.
Anne Françoise Garréta = Cæsar not arrange fine!
(Not the only error– Mr Taylor hit the “Thanks” button, and that stood for hours. His face must be red.)
What's his problem with your anagrams?Replies: @Reg Cæsar
It is just weird that they are never criticized for this.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @LondonBob, @Reg Cæsar, @Wilkey
For whatever that’s worth. France’s longest border is with Brazil. Sacré vert!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osrPJ_Z3Q8YReplies: @Reg Cæsar
As usual, there’s a meme for that:
Just keep in mind, when viewing The World’s Most Important Graph, that this is strictly a mathematical projection, based on the current demographics and Africans’ propensity to breed in an utterly irresponsible manner. There will be some serious civil and cross border wars for resources. What happens when Sudan shuts off the flow from the Nile, and 150,000,000 to 200,000,000 Egyptians face starvation? I think you’d have Africans quite literally “butchering” one another long before the three billion mark.
Since then it rapidly lost relative power and status on the Continent to Germany, internationally to the US and USSR, lost and retreated from its colonies, etc.
This long retreat and decline has inculcated a skepticism and fear of American influence for a long time.
Both the French left and right have had anti-American tendencies, and centrists like de Gaulle have been wary of the US.
One of the best sellers in France in the 60s was "The American Challenge":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Jacques_Servan-Schreiber#The_American_ChallengeReplies: @Rob McX, @Alden, @Alden
Blue denim work clothes made of Bleu de travail de Nimes or panno ig Genova or jeans cloth were worn in Europe centuries before America was discovered. Blue denim is not common in the cities, but out in the country lots of farmers road workers wear blue denim pants and collarless jackets with long black boots.
That fable about Levi Strauss coming to the gold rush with jeans cloth for tents and deciding to use it for sturdy work pants is just that a fable. He came with a load of ready made work pants in blue and brown denim.
Denim was the favored fabric for women’s horse back riding, travel and work clothes too.
So jeans came back to France from America and all those French intellectuals ignored the millions of French men wearing blue denim work clothes. That’s what European idiot intellectuals are; America hating nit pickers.
“I’n surprised that your children are so well behaved for Americans” f’em
It is just weird that they are never criticized for this.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @LondonBob, @Reg Cæsar, @Wilkey
Fair enough. However, I wonder how many of these territories wish to be let go? If France let them go at the price of eternally losing their French citizenship, how many would stay, and how many would hightail it to France? You can’t criticize France for holding on to colonies that don’t wish to be let go.
If they are anything like America’s few remaining territories most of them would get to French soil the minute such a plan was announced.
Like America and Britain, France basically held on to the colonies/territories that were too small to govern themselves. Though America still has no excuse for holding on to Puerto Rico.
Yes, you should have remained part of the British Empire and ignored Voltaire and Rousseau,
For the most part we did ignore those two. Especially the obnoxiously deluded Rousseau.
Dude, the US revo started as a demand for the “Rights of Englishmen”. Jefferson’s appeal to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is an echo from John Locke’s “life, liberty and property”, has nothing to do with liberte’, egalite’, et fraternite’.
The American revo was done before the French revo was begun. Don’t get your causality scrambled.
maybe Calvin too!
Well, there you have a point. Some Brit Royalists referred to the American revo as “The Presbyterian Revolt!” with some reason. Some reason.
Most of France's third world population immigrated after that date.
France will become majority non white in population by mid century - no difference there with the USA.
Everything else is just meaningless posturing.Replies: @Altai
A similar situation occurred in Britain at roughly the same time. People forget that Enoch Powell was successful in his campaign. In both cases, immigration did slow down to a trickle for a generation.
What happened is that in the late 90s asylum migration began, partly in the aftermath of the Yugoslav wars and many Balkaners taking thorough advantage of such laws, showing the weaknesses.
After that the common pattern of immigration begetting more immigration began and the internet allowed better communication with the diaspora and information on exactly how to emigrate began to percolate.
It’s one of the reasons that Denmark has survived so well against immigration. In the late 90s the Danish Peoples Party gained a position in a coalition government and managed to shore things up just in time for the flood in the 2000s in depressing contrast to their neighbours. Even being the only country along with Britain and Ireland to not impose a 5 year restriction on freedom of movement to the post-Soviet states that joined the EU in 2004 didn’t do too much since the population was so overwhelmingly Danish that it deterred immigrants, the society hadn’t yet been terraformed to serve them. Plus they had certifications and other things that made immigrants unable to get a lot of skilled positions without retraining for years in Denmark, in Danish.
Also some tropical hell holes like Clipperton island. The French never left when they could stay and I think that long term it was a smart policy. The populations involved are pretty small, even if they all moved to European France it would not be affect demographics. The offshore sea resources of these places could be important. There are benefits to having a small overseas empire.
In contrast the British never stayed when they could leave and will still bore you with endless talk about their lost empire and how it makes them interesting.
Yes, the French have some interesting real estate in the South Indian Ocean, like Kerguelen and the Crozets. Long way from anywhere, though, unlike say Ascension Island.Replies: @AKAHorace
We here in the USA 'made them leave' did we not? India/Pakistan/Bangladesh also comes to mind.
Ditto for Malaysia and Singapore.
And Kenya and the other African colonies, eventually. and South Africa.
There are others also. Of course most of this came after the British were bailed out during WWII by the Americans. Colonialism no longer made economic sense. It is more accurate to say "they stayed until they were forced to leave." Forced by the locals or by the inability to pay for foreign colonies.
My wife's former UK boss once vented to her about the absurdity of Catalans demanding separation from Spain. He claimed that separation was always a bad idea. When my wife disagreed he continued to object. She merely said, "you seem to forget how things can turn out for the best." She finally had to bluntly remind him about how the US fared after kicking out the Brits. He seemed rather shocked that she even brought that up. I think they Memory Hole the entire American Revolution.Replies: @AKAHorace
They may yet lose New Caledonia, the native Melanesian people want independence but keep having their self-determination undone by the French colonists who have just enough numbers and bloc vote to have thwart each referendum so far. But it’s getting closer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_New_Caledonian_independence_referendum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_New_Caledonian_independence_referendum
Shades of Northern Ireland or Quebec.
If not for an invasion of millions of blacks and Muslims -who are destined to be the majority who’ll rule France unless all immigration is ended ASAP and millions of blacks and Muslims are deported- Francophile intellectuals and Macron wouldn’t have to worry about an “existential threat from American universities” and “social theories” of race and “post-colonialism -much of which came from French leftists. The existential threat is blacks and Muslims and their white-hating anti-France French sycophants.
American whites were stupid to let our country being invaded by Hispanics and, to a lesser degree, Asians. But they don't compare to Muslims and Africans. One or two decades. That's it, or France is toast.
I’m glad now that I never succumbed to the France-bashing that was once so popular on the American right. (I have some French ancestry, natch.) The French might be a bit nutty, but they’re basically the Good Guys.
“ French intellectuals are pretty good at discerning the underlying logic of ideas.”
You would enjoy Philippe de Villiers. The owner of the Puy du Fou alternative to Eurodisney, he is capable of succinct arguments.
“Is this is all about the FN challenge and the close polls?”
“Always has been”
Anne Françoise Garréta = Cæsar not arrange fine!
(Not the only error-- Mr Taylor hit the "Thanks" button, and that stood for hours. His face must be red.)Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
“Mr Taylor hit the “Thanks” button, and that stood for hours. His face must be red.”
What’s his problem with your anagrams?
How very white of me!
Unfortunately, France is all but finished. Muslims make up ~22% of births, maybe a touch more. Other non-whites (mostly African) probably count for 5-7% of births, so ~30% (or more) of births in France are to non-whites – mostly Muslim.
Between differing birth rates and even reduced (but not halted) immigration, that 30% likely will rise by 1/2% to 1% a year. In 10 to 20 years, births in France will be between 40% and 50% non-white and between 30% and 40% Muslim. A France where a third or more of the under 30 population is Muslim and 40% to 50% non-white in total won’t make it.
Unless France dramatically changes course right now, it’ll seal its fate in a decade or two.
The demographics in the US are worse in the sense non-white births, but the vast majority of our non-whites are Hispanics and, increasingly, Asian. Blacks are a problem, but if we hold the line with them, we can handle it. Hispanics aren’t great, but they don’t compare to Muslims. Imagine if our Hispanic population was Muslim. That’s the future of France.
Ten or twenty years. That’s all the time that France has to save itself. I don’t see it happening, but, hopefully, I’m wrong.
Check out my comment somewhere on the board. France is close to be finished. France has ten, maybe twenty years, to change course. Otherwise, it’s done. Look at the births in France. They’re running out of time.
American whites were stupid to let our country being invaded by Hispanics and, to a lesser degree, Asians. But they don’t compare to Muslims and Africans. One or two decades. That’s it, or France is toast.
The state of Tamil Nadu in India has over 70 million ethnic Tamils, and is only 100 miles from Sri Lanka. But it’s understandable how they got lost and just accidentally wound up 10,000 miles away, in one of the richest countries on the planet. Easy mistake.Replies: @Bill Jones, @Buffalo Joe
Could happen to any-one with a Somali Taxi Driver.
In contrast the British never stayed when they could leave and will still bore you with endless talk about their lost empire and how it makes them interesting.Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Muggles
“The offshore sea resources of these places could be important. There are benefits to having a small overseas empire.”
Yes, the French have some interesting real estate in the South Indian Ocean, like Kerguelen and the Crozets. Long way from anywhere, though, unlike say Ascension Island.
What's his problem with your anagrams?Replies: @Reg Cæsar
I refuse to capitalize “white”?
How very white of me!
French Prime Minister Macron speaks of…”threats that are undermining their society.” Well at least the French are allowed to speak about their culture and be proud of it. In America we can’t speak of our society or culture without being labelled a racist. But in France’s case and America’s case we brought the cancer home.
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Capitol "Insurrection" led by FBI
https://time.com/5937535/us-capitol-riot-fbi-oath-keepers/
Once again confirming that the FBI does not know how to do law enforcement, the only thing the FBI ever does is trick harmless idiots into committing fake crimes, and all that is needed to defeat the FBI is a little healthy paranoia. And that the Capitol "Insurrection" was largely nothing.
Still no word on who burned down that police station in Minnesota, or what sentence they can expect.Replies: @Paul Jolliffe, @Buffalo Joe, @Muggles
J, view the videos “Seattle is Dying” and “Fight for the Soul of Seattle” to get a handle on what the left really wants for America. I can’t stand chris cuomo, actually I loathe him and his brother, but when you see the incredulous look on cuomo’s face when Seattle’s mayor answers his question about what comes next and she replies…”Maybe a Summer of love.” These people actually hate America.
The state of Tamil Nadu in India has over 70 million ethnic Tamils, and is only 100 miles from Sri Lanka. But it’s understandable how they got lost and just accidentally wound up 10,000 miles away, in one of the richest countries on the planet. Easy mistake.Replies: @Bill Jones, @Buffalo Joe
Wilkey, and Canada welcomed the Tamils with open arms until the Tamils wanted their own territory and shut down rail service and highways. The Tamils wanted to be Tamils, not Canadians, just like they wanted to be Tamils in Sri Lanka.
In addition to the higher fertility rates, the aboriginal Europeans have an average age of 43 compared to an average age of 30 for the invaders...The average Christian in Europe is pushing 50 while the average Muslim is under 30. It is near impossible now to change the trend.Replies: @Intensifier
I take your point and don’t want to be picky but is it true to say the average Christian in Europe is 50? More like 75 is you judge by church attendance!!
I honestly would be shocked if more than 5% of indigenous European under 50s regularly offer public worship in Christian churches and it could well be even lower. To say Christianity is in crisis in Europe is to understate the reality…it is in complete and terminal collapse as a mass societal reality.
Of course, Christians will connect with each other in various “Benedict Option” responses and the Faith will continue but as a widely believed creed with cultural and social importance, Christianity is over in Europe.
Israel is full of Jewish intellectuals, who (as we know) tend to promote all sorts of interesting ideologies and schools of thought. Despite all that, Israel has maintained itself as a Jewish ethno-state.
Germany, Austria, and most of Scandinavia (other than maybe Sweden) haven’t produced that many eccentric intellectuals. Despite all that, they’ve all been flooded with Islamic colonizers.
Now that I think about it, so have all the other Western nations. Presumably, all those Western countries produced local eccentric intellectuals who somehow took control of immigration policy.
Fanon wasn’t French, either.
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Ben, when you see what London, Coventry, Manchester, Plymouth, Dresden and Berlin looked like at the end of WWII, the French were blessed that Paris suffered minimal damage.
The fact the Jews tend to be fans of “deconstruction” and certain types of revolutionary zeal? But hardly the only ones. Focault (gentile, but gay) and others were not Jewish.
Depending on who is counting, 21% or 30% of Jewish voters voted for Trump. The rest voted for Biden because Biden is a notorious deconstructionist and a revolutionary zealot.Let's face it Dumbo, your name jibes with your opinions. Nomen omen!Replies: @Dumbo
And, most importantly- a complete obscurantist. Philosopher Sir Roger Scruton wrote in 2004, "He's difficult to summarise because it's nonsense."
https://i.gifer.com/Z4Cs.gifReplies: @Dumbo, @Rob McX
I stand corrected; Baudrillard was, apparently not Jewish either.
I also thought Roland Barthes was Jewish, but I think he wasn’t (Barthes was actually not bad and wrote understandable stuff). Hw was gay, though. Maybe the common denominator is not Jewishness, but homosexuality?
>The fact the Jews tend to be fans of “deconstruction” and certain types of revolutionary zeal?
Aside that the fact is not a fact but a falsehood, one wonders how would an individual’s chosen or inherited religious preference makse him a fan or a foe of “deconstruction” and revolutionary zeal? Do you imagine that the average jewish person has any idea of what deconstruction is about? And why would American jews who mostly are leading comfortable and prosperous lives be fans of revolution?
Depending on who is counting, 21% or 30% of Jewish voters voted for Trump. The rest voted for Biden because Biden is a notorious deconstructionist and a revolutionary zealot.
Let’s face it Dumbo, your name jibes with your opinions. Nomen omen!
You don't need to read "Culture of Critique" to see that. Now, there may be reasons for that, historical, religious, psychological, I don't really know... Individual Jews are fine, but many of them seem to be in permanent opposition to the non-Jewish majority. Maybe it's just extreme paranoia and neuroticism? I swear that I don't know. And I don't really care that much either.
“Nobody in America, being protected by the Atlantic Ocean, has yet noticed the World’s Most Important Graph.”
Of course we have seen that visual, Mr. Sailer. It’s just that it’s your basic fear mongering tactic.
“I’d say that when the death of a fentanyl-abusing bouncer in Minneapolis leads to riots around the world, American influence is riding high.”
More like the death of a black man who indeed had drugs in his system but also had a cop kneeling on his neck for over 9 minutes, a tactic neither taught nor sanctioned by American police, which invariably contributed his death. Be more accurate, Mr. Sailer, rather than pandering to your base.
Perhaps the fear felt by France is something that her colonial possessions had dealt with as she sought free stuff and gimme dats? And it’s not like the world hasn’t experienced population booms and busts and the migration of peoples, right? Just sayin’…
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Capitol "Insurrection" led by FBI
https://time.com/5937535/us-capitol-riot-fbi-oath-keepers/
Once again confirming that the FBI does not know how to do law enforcement, the only thing the FBI ever does is trick harmless idiots into committing fake crimes, and all that is needed to defeat the FBI is a little healthy paranoia. And that the Capitol "Insurrection" was largely nothing.
Still no word on who burned down that police station in Minnesota, or what sentence they can expect.Replies: @Paul Jolliffe, @Buffalo Joe, @Muggles
Also, still no word on who planted those two pipe bombs in DC at the HQs of both the Rep and Dem party offices.
They have video of someone planting at least one of these.
I’m sure the Keystone Kapitol Kops are working 24/7 on this.
Since they were planted the night before the Trump rally, ‘it was no accident’ that they were there. Both are said to have had crude timers but neither went off.
So, FBI false flag? Someone else? Antifa? BLM?
What is known for certain is that some person or group was intent on creating a ‘blame Trump for violence’ event and nearly did so. Even absent the subsequent protest march to the Capitol building. .
So my money is on Nancy Pelosi. Those impeachment docs were already in her printer queue.
But that was 1967 when France resisted American influence. Now it’s 2021 and I doubt France can resist Arab African influence. Americans never immigrated to France en masse and imposed out culture in France . Arabs and Africans did with the full cooperation and help from the French government and all sectors of society. It’s no longer blue jeans It’s burkas and FMG.Replies: @Veracitor
Well, technically he was Belgian, but Georges Simenon was probably the most widely-read “French” novelist of the 20th Century.
What an Anne Garréta or a Mame-Fatou Niang might look like is hardly meaningless. Or even a surprise. (Though one might assume Mme. Niang was Indochinese from her name.)
Their faces speak volumes.
That Officer Chauvin and Mr Floyd were employed nights at the same small place is fascinating. It may even come up in the trial. Which the police are gearing up for.
In contrast the British never stayed when they could leave and will still bore you with endless talk about their lost empire and how it makes them interesting.Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Muggles
Gee, I think this is rather obviously false.
We here in the USA ‘made them leave’ did we not? India/Pakistan/Bangladesh also comes to mind.
Ditto for Malaysia and Singapore.
And Kenya and the other African colonies, eventually. and South Africa.
There are others also. Of course most of this came after the British were bailed out during WWII by the Americans. Colonialism no longer made economic sense. It is more accurate to say “they stayed until they were forced to leave.” Forced by the locals or by the inability to pay for foreign colonies.
My wife’s former UK boss once vented to her about the absurdity of Catalans demanding separation from Spain. He claimed that separation was always a bad idea. When my wife disagreed he continued to object. She merely said, “you seem to forget how things can turn out for the best.” She finally had to bluntly remind him about how the US fared after kicking out the Brits. He seemed rather shocked that she even brought that up. I think they Memory Hole the entire American Revolution.
Yes, but
France was forced out of Indochina and Algeria and left their African colonies (although they took a long time leaving Djibouti). But when they could stay they did. Look at the Caribbean, with the exception of Haiti (forced out as well) they held on to all of their islands there. In the Pacific they had to leave a the New Hebrides (now Vanuatu) but held onto all of their other islands while the Brits only kept Pitcairn Island. The same story in the Indian Ocean. When the Comoros voted for independence, one island, Mayotte wanted to remain part of France and was allowed to do so.
The French wisely decided to declare Paris an ‘open city’ (i.e. not defended) after it was clear the blitzkrieg was looming there. That had been done before during the 19th century when the Germans also defeated the French army.
Hitler infamously ordered the destruction of major Parisian landmarks, bridges, etc. when the German retreat from France was being done. Fortunately the commanding German general ignored that. They do not always follow orders.
Two wise decisions saved Paris from horrible destruction. Allies did bomb some rail yards and a few military targets, but not much.
https://i.redd.it/3qgq65y5evx21.jpgReplies: @Joe Stalin
Brazil could grab French Guiana and France would be SOL.
All those bad ideas moved from France to US AFTER France became part of the American Empire in 1945. Derrida was born in 1930 and Baudrillard in 1929.
I honestly would be shocked if more than 5% of indigenous European under 50s regularly offer public worship in Christian churches and it could well be even lower. To say Christianity is in crisis in Europe is to understate the reality...it is in complete and terminal collapse as a mass societal reality.
Of course, Christians will connect with each other in various "Benedict Option" responses and the Faith will continue but as a widely believed creed with cultural and social importance, Christianity is over in Europe.Replies: @fnn
Nobody under 60 goes to church in the Balkans, but somehow that didn’t prevent the Serbs and Croats from fighting each other in a war in the 1990s.
France NEVER became a part of the American Empire. Don’t blame French libertinism on us. Foucault was a Frenchman. Their entire intellectual class is rotten & perverted to the core.
If the French intellectual you have in mind is John Calvin, then yes.
This shit is all original sin, human depravity and guilt, reprobation, rituals of atonement leading to salvation, plus Garden of Eden narratives in which the foreign creatures of the jungle are holy innocents who must be protected from evil reprobates, by the Elect. Are YOU saved?
In short, it’s Puritanism and its hysterical child Evangelicism. Some Lutheran Pietism in there but it was John Calvin who really put the fuel on the fire which launched this crusade, and the USA plus northwest Europe are the superspreaders.
Don’t believe me? Ask an Italian or a Greek how they feel about Original Sin. In fact ask a Frenchman as we see here. Even though Calvin started it, the idea of depravity and guilt as a basis for belief only caught hold in NW Europe, is it prorammed into Germanic genes?
Well, considering that the Summer of Love actually consisted of massive unprecedented domestic terrorism and hard drug use …
He was too, fatuous fool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osrPJ_Z3Q8YReplies: @Reg Cæsar
Well, that’s one way the eternal “country of the future” could acquire a working space program!
Yes, the French have some interesting real estate in the South Indian Ocean, like Kerguelen and the Crozets. Long way from anywhere, though, unlike say Ascension Island.Replies: @AKAHorace
The way things are going in sea warfare it looks as if land based missiles will have the advantage over any surface ships. Having islands scattered across the world could be strategically useful.
We here in the USA 'made them leave' did we not? India/Pakistan/Bangladesh also comes to mind.
Ditto for Malaysia and Singapore.
And Kenya and the other African colonies, eventually. and South Africa.
There are others also. Of course most of this came after the British were bailed out during WWII by the Americans. Colonialism no longer made economic sense. It is more accurate to say "they stayed until they were forced to leave." Forced by the locals or by the inability to pay for foreign colonies.
My wife's former UK boss once vented to her about the absurdity of Catalans demanding separation from Spain. He claimed that separation was always a bad idea. When my wife disagreed he continued to object. She merely said, "you seem to forget how things can turn out for the best." She finally had to bluntly remind him about how the US fared after kicking out the Brits. He seemed rather shocked that she even brought that up. I think they Memory Hole the entire American Revolution.Replies: @AKAHorace
In contrast the British never stayed when they could leave and will still bore you with endless talk about their lost empire and how it makes them interesting.
Yes, but
France was forced out of Indochina and Algeria and left their African colonies (although they took a long time leaving Djibouti). But when they could stay they did. Look at the Caribbean, with the exception of Haiti (forced out as well) they held on to all of their islands there. In the Pacific they had to leave a the New Hebrides (now Vanuatu) but held onto all of their other islands while the Brits only kept Pitcairn Island. The same story in the Indian Ocean. When the Comoros voted for independence, one island, Mayotte wanted to remain part of France and was allowed to do so.
And, most importantly- a complete obscurantist. Philosopher Sir Roger Scruton wrote in 2004, "He's difficult to summarise because it's nonsense."
https://i.gifer.com/Z4Cs.gifReplies: @Dumbo, @Rob McX
Derrida was not gay, as far as I know (his widow died last year, of Covid). You may be confusing him with Foucault, or Barthes.
It’s the French language associations, the Alliance Francaise, the Academie universities international Lycee Francaise high schools all over the world and others who’ve been pushing this Arab and African embrace and immigration
1650-1950 French was the common language of educated Europeans and the common language of diplomacy all over the world. Any French person could move abroad and get a job teaching French. Now it’s British and Americans who do that. But after the war, NATO, decolonization American movies TV music English became the world language.
The International French language associations are obsolete. There is only one White French speaking nation in the world, France. Plus teeny Monaco and Luxembourg and French speaking provinces in Canada Switzerland and Belgium. And Lafayette university and some French heritage groups in Louisiana USA. All together, those provinces and principalities don’t equal France.
What’s left are gazillions of Arabs and Africans, breeding more and more every year thanks to aid from idiot White countries and NGOs. The French language disappeared from Algeria decades ago. Now they study English instead of French. But the treaties that allow Algerians to move to France are still in place.
The only French speaking countries other than France are African. So the French language lobbyists schools establishment are looking to Africa to preserve the French language. And not just the language, but popular and high brow literature, movies poetry.
It’s really a big big deal. The schools in France are madly inserting African and Arab writings in French literature classes. The language associations are in Africa funding and running organizations to create French African literature music plays and movies . And bring it back to France They are still in AlgeriaTunisia Morocco Lebanon other bits and pieces of former colonies but it’s a losing cause as those countries prefer English.
But there’s still French speaking Africa where White French nationality ethnicity teachers are trying to create French African movies short stories poetry.
Latin gave way to French as the lingua franca of Europe and international diplomacy. French has given way to English But they can’t accept it and try to preserve it as an international language in Africa the most useless place on earth.
It’s really disgusting what they’re doing and have been doing for the last 60 years.
No worse that America inserting Hispanic African American Indian scribblings into English literature classes, or England inserting African Caribbean scribblings into English literature classes.
The language chauvinism is a major reason France has been browning itself for the last 60 years.Replies: @Anonymous
Quebec ‘nationalists’ have pushed for the immigration of Arabs and Africans to Canada on the grounds that this strengthens the French-speaking block against the Anglophones.
Korsch, on the other hand, thought that Marxian future would give birth to a completely new type of science & that “Marxist mathematics” would be superior to “bourgeois mathematics”. He was not too explicit about it, but it was evident that he really, sincerely thought so.
Seems legit. What other kind of mathematics would a truly New Soviet Man even consider using?
What can I say? Speechless ….
Really? You don’t remember this Man of Science™?
Yeah, you’re right. Derrida was not a Sodomite.
But white American men are increasingly seen as granola-eating surrender
monkeys. At least the French gilets jaunes have shown some courage
One would almost be forgiven that wars are not of necessity caused by religion….that is if we didn’t know better because Marxist Chris Hitchens told us so.
Depending on who is counting, 21% or 30% of Jewish voters voted for Trump. The rest voted for Biden because Biden is a notorious deconstructionist and a revolutionary zealot.Let's face it Dumbo, your name jibes with your opinions. Nomen omen!Replies: @Dumbo
Now I like Jews, well, *some* Jews, but let’s be honest, many of them seem hyperactive in fighting for several not-so-great causes, usually of the left-wing variety (well, secular Jews; the Haredim have other problems). It’s not about voting, but about political/intellectual activism and financial support.
You don’t need to read “Culture of Critique” to see that. Now, there may be reasons for that, historical, religious, psychological, I don’t really know… Individual Jews are fine, but many of them seem to be in permanent opposition to the non-Jewish majority. Maybe it’s just extreme paranoia and neuroticism? I swear that I don’t know. And I don’t really care that much either.
He was a negro from Martinique with some white blood. Calling him French is like calling Cheech Marin a Spaniard.
He was a French citizen, dickhead. Calling him French is like calling anybody who is a French citizen French. In other words, correct. And you are wrong.
Charles de Gaulle is Irish, by your lights. Which are wrong lights. Charles de Gaulle was a Frenchman by my lights. And my lights are the right lights.
If I was to get Japanese citizenship, that would not make me Japanese. I wouldn’t have any blood kinship with the core group of Japan. Even if I became fluent in Japanese, I wouldn’t be Japanese. Everyone knows this. Likewise, an African living in France and speaking French doesn’t become French.
You are an idiot. I guess then Hank Aaron wasn’t American. You are so wrong that you are a fucking asshole. A big one.
Nationality is culture. Not genes. If you think the white French are French, you are sadly mistaken. Fully half of present-day white French people have some foreign ancestry, Alsatian, Luxembourgois, Polish, Italian, German, Russian, Greek, Armenian, Yugoslavian, etc. And what of the Bretons. They’re Irish. AS WAS DE GAULLE, MOOK. And what of the Provenceaux? They aren’t French. They speak a different language. Ask one. And what about Normans? They aren’t French. They’re Vikings.
Live and learn, you little baby uninformed child.
So if I identify with African-American culture, do I get affirmative action?
I understand your pessimism, but surely if there is any remote hope for us, there must also be some for France? I’m pretty sure their demographics are actually better than ours.