A new meta-analysis confirms Robert D. Putnam’s notorious finding, which I discussed in my 2008 article “Fragmented Future,” that diversity isn’t always our strength:
Ethnic Diversity and Social Trust: A Narrative and Meta-Analytical Review
Preprint (PDF Available) · September 2019 with 195 ReadsPeter Thisted Dinesen, University of Copenhagen
Merlin Schaeffer, University of Copenhagen
Kim Mannemar Sønderskov, Aarhus University
Abstract
Does ethnic diversity erode social trust? Continued immigration and corresponding growing ethnic diversity have prompted this essential question for modern societies, but few clear answers have been reached in the sprawling literature. Taking this as point of departure, this article reviews the existing literature on the relationship between ethnic diversity and social trust through a narrative review and a meta-analysis of 1,001 estimates from 87 studies. The review clarifies the core concepts, highlights pertinent debates, and tests core claims from the literature on the relationship between ethnic diversity and social trust. Several results stand out from the meta-analysis. We find a statistically significant negative relationship between ethnic diversity and social trust across all studies. The relationship is stronger for trust in neighbors, and when studied in more local contexts. Covariate conditioning generally changes the relationship only slightly. The review concludes by discussing avenues for future research.
But America’s judges know that diversity can’t possibly have any downsides. As Judge Allison D. Burroughs wrote in her opinion upholding Harvard’s right, no, Harvard’s responsibility to discriminate against Asians in favor of blacks in the “Findings of Fact” section:
It is somewhat axiomatic at this point that diversity of all sorts, including racial diversity, is an important aspect of education.
I love how this sentence echoes the famous opening sentence of Euclid’s Elements:
It is somewhat axiomatic at this point that triangles of all sorts, including equilateral triangles, have three sides.
Bravo, Judge Burroughs.

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This retreat to an axiom is actually good news. It is an acknowledgement that ‘diversity’ cannot be justified logically, morally or politically.
The only people who truly believe that “diversity is our strength” are those that are safely insulated from diversity (most commonly of thought, but frequently also of class, ethnicity, culture, etc.)
Off topic…not really:
WE should start to refer to ourselves as:THE RACE
And always refer you OUR People as:
THE HISTORIC NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN MAJORITY
THE RACE!!!!!!!
Just think of how much of a rage state White Liberals will go into when we do this…
Anti White trivia:
White Privilege? Open borders, “diversity” “multiculturalism”
Non White Privilege? Borders, homogeneity, racial/cultural self preservation
“Diversity is a strength”? They mean “White people are a weakness.” Diversity means Chasing Down White Flight.
The most enslaved and colonized group in history? White Slavs of Eastern Europe. Their owners? Primarily Turk/Arab Islam
The White role in slavery? Ending it.
How to help the Aboriginals? By helping the Aboriginals. Importing more “thieves” to this “stolen land” isn’t for their benefit. Anti Whites use them for their own purposes.
Which minority is facing torture and murder today? South African Whites, being killed by Blacks.
racistsupremacistnazi are just slurs to shut down opposition to Anti Whiteism and White G…
Yes,thank you white woman,with your empty head,who sees herself and her wisdom as one of the many benefits of diversity. Somewhat axiomatic? Sheeeiiit,that’s full on axiomatic!
What is axiomatic is that “social science” has no axioms. 🙂
And the "somewhat" gives that away.
Our host is, of course, being droll. The opening element of Euclid's Elements involves the definition of a point.(Fitzpatrick's Heiberg, 2007)
https://farside.ph.utexas.edu/Books/Euclid/Elements.pdf
It always comes back to California. And I can’t say it isn’t demographically appropriate to come back again and again to California.
Steve Sailer from 2015:
Tweet from 2015:
“It is somewhat axiomatic at this point that diversity of all sorts, including racial diversity, is an important aspect of education.”
That’s called assuming your conclusion. Law schools should require a course in logic.
Teach logic all you like, it won't help whilever people are slaves to their mind-sets - it will just help them better rationalise their prejudices, as judge B. has done in this case.
Truly, “somewhat axiomatic” is a contradiction in terms. Either something is axiomatic, or it is not, it cannot be in between. But that is beside the point.
I feel that there is a specific meaning given to “somewhat axiomatic”, which has nothing to do with axioms, real, social or imagined:
This is just a very confusing way of saying “These days, custom has it that…”
Well, yeah.
But the information content of the above phrase reduces to 0 bits, or at least, nothing can be deduced from such a saying.
And of course Euclid would never say:
Because triangle is just defined as something with three sides, and equilateral triangles are just special cases of these.
What one might hear is:
i.e. we don’t know but there is strong evidence for this. We are still hoping for a proof before we need to add it to the axiom set like the Continuum Hypothesis..
This is just a very confusing way of saying “These days, custom has it that…”
Nah, It's a way of saying 'I'm high on my own supply'.Replies: @Anonymous
If Affirmative Action ends with blacks stuck at associate positions, I’m sure being a judge looks a lot more appealing.Replies: @keypusher
Europe on brink of new refugee crisis ‘EVEN GREATER’ than 2015 – German Interior Minister
Europe may soon face a massive inflow of refugees and migrants that will be even bigger than at the peak of the infamous crisis, Germany’s Interior Minister Horst Seehofer has warned
https://www.rt.com/news/470330-europe-new-refugee-crisis-seehofer/
This whole matter has become so confusing. It’s almost as if–the more we admit, the more will come seeking admission! That can’t be right, can it? We’ve already proven how virtuous we are, haven’t we? Well. I guess the only solution is to do more of what we were doing before. Much more. We just weren’t doing enough. We weren’t doing it hard enough.
I know! Instead of admitting millions, how about tens of millions like our American friends do? And if that doesn’t work, how about hundreds of millions? Maybe promise them more free stuff, like our American friends do? I wonder which will be the first to admit a billion? America or Europe? What a grand experiment it shall be.
Seems like a win-win. Less foreign entanglement and fewer middle eastern refugees fleeing through Turkey.Replies: @Charon, @William Badwhite, @Whiskey, @Pericles, @Dieter Kief
Don’t forget Dr. Putnam’s admonishment that we not take his research seriously because “in the long term” it will all be worth it. He didn’t really address the aforelinked article’s data based on Gallup polls and UN statistics on human development in justifying his optimism. Nor did he really address the consequences of demographic ballot box stuffing in the West that looks increasingly likely to trigger a civil war killing tens if not hundreds of millions of people concentrated in its urban centers.
Perhaps he meant that once the urban centers of the west, where diversity is concentrated, have been laid waste, it will undue the imposition of “diversity” on the rest of us and we’ll get back to high trust societies — in the long term that is.
he doent have a single good thing to say about diversityReplies: @Herbert West
>It is somewhat axiomatic at this point that diversity of all sorts, including racial diversity, is an important aspect of education.
The scary aspect of that bizarre and counter-intuitive proposition that she parrots is that she actually believes it, although she would be hard put to name any piece of knowledge she ever learnt from a fellow student, colored or white. If you learn anything in a classroom, you learn it from the teacher’s words. That is a one-to-one relationship. You are surely not learning it from the ignoramuses you are sitting with.
Diversity Means There Are Less White Christian People.
British Protestants — English — colonized and settled the Massachusetts Bay Colony.
The English in the Massachusetts Bay Colony founded Harvard to form future Puritan preachers.
Harvard now discriminates against White Protestant students and White Christian students and Asian students.
Jews make up a large percentage of the White student enrollment at Harvard.
Tweet from 2014:
Whenever anyone says that mass migration was ‘inevitable’ I look to Denmark. Just from the Danish People’s Party getting into a position of influence at just the right time (Late 90s/Early 2000s) led Denmark to experience a very different path to the rest of Western Europe. Due to much lower numbers, one isn’t constantly around foreigners. There is a freedom to talk about things frankly from a lack of the ‘immigrant veto’ or feeling like it’s offensive to ‘Ahmed’ or whomever. It’s no joke, the difference in the type of conservation you can have with somebody you don’t even know well in Denmark compared to Sweden is unreal. The Danes are free to be relaxed and alone with themselves, this is a normal thing that the rest of Western Europe has been robbed of for the last 20 years.
The view that Denmark belongs to the Danes is also freely expressed by quite liberal people, as in, in America you’d avoid political conversations with them. The reason? It’s normal. Nationalism or at least a sense of a right to their ancient homeland is a normal perspective and was present across Western Europe among liberals until around 20-30 years ago, it’s hardly a right-wing perspective, I don’t recall ever talking to a conservative or right-wing Dane and I don’t recall anyone thinking I was. What’s abnormal are the rates of immigration that dwarf any historical movements of people on record and the constant propaganda and social conditioning to accept it and fear talking about it.
Most of the immigration to the UK is due to the accession of the former Warsaw Pact countries, down literally to somebody singing a piece of paper, nobody was rushing Britain in boats from Poland. And most large-scale immigration follows pre-existing diasporas.
Immigration, like 500lb bombs dropping in Gaza, just happens, like the weather.
And when we get down to it, here is a similar reasoned axiom that that pertains very much to the Ivy league experience.
“It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife.”
Judge Burroughs and her ilk have, unjustly, jmade life that much harder for dutiful incel Asian men.
Europe may soon face a massive inflow of refugees and migrants that will be even bigger than at the peak of the infamous crisis, Germany’s Interior Minister Horst Seehofer has warned
https://www.rt.com/news/470330-europe-new-refugee-crisis-seehofer/
This whole matter has become so confusing. It's almost as if--the more we admit, the more will come seeking admission! That can't be right, can it? We've already proven how virtuous we are, haven't we? Well. I guess the only solution is to do more of what we were doing before. Much more. We just weren't doing enough. We weren't doing it hard enough.
I know! Instead of admitting millions, how about tens of millions like our American friends do? And if that doesn't work, how about hundreds of millions? Maybe promise them more free stuff, like our American friends do? I wonder which will be the first to admit a billion? America or Europe? What a grand experiment it shall be. Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @El Dato
Apparently, the withdrawal of American troops from Syria that Trump just announced is part of a deal with Turkey. Once we bug out the Turks are going to occupy Northern Syria and set up some kind of refugee “safe zone” where they can deport all their Syrian refugees.
Seems like a win-win. Less foreign entanglement and fewer middle eastern refugees fleeing through Turkey.
Trump what a peace monger. Truly Libs want a war. Check out that Netflix series about an alternate universe with steampunk elves. They literally call for a war with the Warsaw Pact because they're mean to elves.Replies: @Jim Don Bob
Give that woman a Nobel Prize for discoveries in politically correct logic.
why don’t you go retreat to an axiom?
Yes, if you rely on TV and movies for your impressions of people, your subconcious will tell you to hate yourself. The more time you spend around them IRL, the more realistic you become.
Seems like a win-win. Less foreign entanglement and fewer middle eastern refugees fleeing through Turkey.Replies: @Charon, @William Badwhite, @Whiskey, @Pericles, @Dieter Kief
I saw a map of the occupation zones in Syria today. That country is being sliced and diced to death. It’s almost as though israel doesn’t want any stable nations in the vicinity.
It’s almost as though that “divide et impera” thing the chosens practice over here in the colonies is the same thing they practice over there too. It’s almost as though it’s some kind of axiom.
“Axiomatic” used to mean “logically irrefutable,” now it apparently means “something that is said so often that it becomes true by repetition.”
More benefits of vibrant diversity:
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Bethesda-CEO-John-Holaday-Dies-After-Being-Shot-Near-Fire-in-Charlotte-562301071.html
The basketball-American perp looks like he’s pretty bright. He most likely was in NC interviewing at tech firms in the RTP area.
Perhaps he meant that once the urban centers of the west, where diversity is concentrated, have been laid waste, it will undue the imposition of "diversity" on the rest of us and we'll get back to high trust societies -- in the long term that is.Replies: @will of d
he is refering to the past inmigration of european people and how they were able to intregate under two autoritarian models like the army and the church so like we knew the only way to handle diversity is with an authoritarian state that bann freedom of speech …..
he doent have a single good thing to say about diversity
Seems like a win-win. Less foreign entanglement and fewer middle eastern refugees fleeing through Turkey.Replies: @Charon, @William Badwhite, @Whiskey, @Pericles, @Dieter Kief
And predictably, GOP senators are whining about it.
“It is somewhat axiomatic at this point that diversity of all sorts, including racial diversity, is an important aspect of education.”
Where’s the intellectual diversity on college campuses? The modern idea of diversity is liberals of six different colors and genders.
They say consumption is 70% of the economy.
I keep rolling this nagging question around in my brain: who has the money? And a secondary question: who consumes?
First older people have money, and those people are mostly white and aging. When I went to visit my aunt and uncle in the Bay Area several yrs back they told me as they’re in their 70s now me being there gave them a chance to spend money. Otherwise they go to their garden at 7am and then stay home all day unless they go to the grocery store or to the quick stop to buy lotto s scratchers.
At some point the corporations will side against whites as mostly young people and thus to them minorities consume.
I’m in ny 30s and going out to eat twice a week(think a ten buck sub, not something fancy) and going bowling once a yr and to the movie theater 3 or 4 times a year are my only vices…..corporations need young white girls and women to buy useless crap they dont need. Recall whiskey saying 80% of consumer purchases are made by or directly influenced by women….
Old people sell “down” into smaller houses. Hell a friend of mine who used to be a tow driver and works in restaurants is in his mid 40s now and he told me the other day once his daughter graduated in a few yrs he and his wife will move to Florida into a 1 br apartment and abandon their huge rental house they live in now.
My point? Old white people dont consume save on medical stuff and most corporations and Wall Street hates this.
Their solution? Reparations? Increased welfare for minorities? I dunno you guys tell me
But somehow they’re going to have to get cash into the hands of minorities to spend on useless unnecessary consumption and gizmos that the corporations make in China and Bangladesh.
Without that we fall into a Japanese style deflationary malaise.
What do you guys think?
You can check the figures on consumer purchases easily via Google. I've found many cites for it and that was marketing 101.
Europe may soon face a massive inflow of refugees and migrants that will be even bigger than at the peak of the infamous crisis, Germany’s Interior Minister Horst Seehofer has warned
https://www.rt.com/news/470330-europe-new-refugee-crisis-seehofer/
This whole matter has become so confusing. It's almost as if--the more we admit, the more will come seeking admission! That can't be right, can it? We've already proven how virtuous we are, haven't we? Well. I guess the only solution is to do more of what we were doing before. Much more. We just weren't doing enough. We weren't doing it hard enough.
I know! Instead of admitting millions, how about tens of millions like our American friends do? And if that doesn't work, how about hundreds of millions? Maybe promise them more free stuff, like our American friends do? I wonder which will be the first to admit a billion? America or Europe? What a grand experiment it shall be. Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @El Dato
I will be playing vidya.
Just look at all y’all white people. It’s just like TD says.
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/easyjet-passengers-kicked-off-flight-fighting-spitting

P.S. Yay Manchester!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/woman-gets-on-delta-plane-to-atlanta-with-no-ticket-id-in-security-breach/ar-AAIlk2P
Y'all stay classy now!Replies: @Charon
Dat ringing! It’s the work of the devil I tell you! Pursuing coloreds like that.
The issue with general social diversity is that in Metro Detroit generally, 1/100 Blacks encountered are committing a crime or acting out. That leads pretty quick to carefully looking out when new ones are around.
However, in my professional field Blacks hardly every act out. Same with the higher ranked university I went to. If the goal is to convince the upper and upper middle class that Blacks are people same as everyone else, I can’t think of a way other than forced diversity mixed with the high performing ones in a closed off world.
What do you want ISIS to come into your house and murder your children or something?! Now shut up and bomb all the enemies of ISIS!
It is somewhat axiomatic at this point that Asian Tiger Mothers of all sorts are now raising their children to be future Harvard admission officers…and Federal judges…
…and then one day an all-Han Supreme Court will rule that racial diversity is an unimportant aspect of education and therefore it is Harvard’s right, no responsibility, to discriminate against all the other inferior races and to remain a 100% Han university.
The view that Denmark belongs to the Danes is also freely expressed by quite liberal people, as in, in America you'd avoid political conversations with them. The reason? It's normal. Nationalism or at least a sense of a right to their ancient homeland is a normal perspective and was present across Western Europe among liberals until around 20-30 years ago, it's hardly a right-wing perspective, I don't recall ever talking to a conservative or right-wing Dane and I don't recall anyone thinking I was. What's abnormal are the rates of immigration that dwarf any historical movements of people on record and the constant propaganda and social conditioning to accept it and fear talking about it.
Most of the immigration to the UK is due to the accession of the former Warsaw Pact countries, down literally to somebody singing a piece of paper, nobody was rushing Britain in boats from Poland. And most large-scale immigration follows pre-existing diasporas.
Immigration, like 500lb bombs dropping in Gaza, just happens, like the weather.Replies: @Steve Sailer
European nationalism is mostly an outgrowth of the French Revolution’s rejection of the previous model of dynasticism, where foreign princes can suddenly inherit your land as theirs to rule by right.
Supposedly when Zhou Enlai was asked about the impact of the French Revolution he replied, “It's too early to say.”
Unfortunately, as is the case with most of the really great quotes, he didn't actually say that.
Seems like a win-win. Less foreign entanglement and fewer middle eastern refugees fleeing through Turkey.Replies: @Charon, @William Badwhite, @Whiskey, @Pericles, @Dieter Kief
Miss Lindsay hates it so it must be good.
Trump what a peace monger. Truly Libs want a war. Check out that Netflix series about an alternate universe with steampunk elves. They literally call for a war with the Warsaw Pact because they’re mean to elves.
I keep rolling this nagging question around in my brain: who has the money? And a secondary question: who consumes?
First older people have money, and those people are mostly white and aging. When I went to visit my aunt and uncle in the Bay Area several yrs back they told me as they're in their 70s now me being there gave them a chance to spend money. Otherwise they go to their garden at 7am and then stay home all day unless they go to the grocery store or to the quick stop to buy lotto s scratchers.
At some point the corporations will side against whites as mostly young people and thus to them minorities consume.
I'm in ny 30s and going out to eat twice a week(think a ten buck sub, not something fancy) and going bowling once a yr and to the movie theater 3 or 4 times a year are my only vices.....corporations need young white girls and women to buy useless crap they dont need. Recall whiskey saying 80% of consumer purchases are made by or directly influenced by women....
Old people sell "down" into smaller houses. Hell a friend of mine who used to be a tow driver and works in restaurants is in his mid 40s now and he told me the other day once his daughter graduated in a few yrs he and his wife will move to Florida into a 1 br apartment and abandon their huge rental house they live in now.
My point? Old white people dont consume save on medical stuff and most corporations and Wall Street hates this.
Their solution? Reparations? Increased welfare for minorities? I dunno you guys tell me
But somehow they're going to have to get cash into the hands of minorities to spend on useless unnecessary consumption and gizmos that the corporations make in China and Bangladesh.
Without that we fall into a Japanese style deflationary malaise.
What do you guys think?Replies: @Whiskey, @TTSSYF
Explicitly this is the reason Europeans use to justify mass non Whites immigration.
You can check the figures on consumer purchases easily via Google. I’ve found many cites for it and that was marketing 101.
But from a Judeocentric perspoective, it is a strength for Jews. Divided goyim are easier to manipulate.
It’s funny you mention Euclid. I’ve long thought that the alleged inherent benefit of diversity is the parallel postulate of American politics: it’s treated as an axiom, but it’s not one really.
In this case, “axiomatic” means that elites like me live in upper class neighborhoods that are 100% free of poor minorities, and 99% free of blacks….
I’m thinking about inventing a huge tripod or spider robot that can pick protesting XR “rebels” off the street, dump them into a huge grabbag, then transport them into the countryside to be left to fend for themselves. It would all run unattended, fully AI. Insurance might be a problem though.
Is Syria a real nation, though? Is anything in that neighborhood? They’ve had diversity for centuries.
Instead of useless “nation building” Trump is going for a realpolitik “spheres of influence” deal. If Israel gets a sphere, at least they’ll have to police it themselves and we don’t have to do it.
This is why I prefer my geometry to be non-Euclidian….
“Diversity is Our Strength!”
“That which does not kill us, makes us stronger!”
“The dose makes the poison.”
Just keep adding more “diversity,” until it kills us…
White men judges are worse. brown Griggs kaiser all White men. All dedicated to the destructive of Whites via school desegregation and affirmative action.
Maybe Trump should edge out the Retarded Girl for the Peace Prize?
The correct word is "intellectually disabled." You know, like the Prime Minister of Canada.
Who wants social solidarity standing in the way of global capital? Diversity is Our strength, not your strength.
Whatever happens, the judge has got, a gated community, and you have not.
I take serious, serious offense at your remark.
The correct word is “intellectually disabled.” You know, like the Prime Minister of Canada.
White Privilege? Open borders, "diversity" "multiculturalism"
Non White Privilege? Borders, homogeneity, racial/cultural self preservation
"Diversity is a strength"? They mean "White people are a weakness." Diversity means Chasing Down White Flight.
The most enslaved and colonized group in history? White Slavs of Eastern Europe. Their owners? Primarily Turk/Arab Islam
The White role in slavery? Ending it.
How to help the Aboriginals? By helping the Aboriginals. Importing more "thieves" to this "stolen land" isn't for their benefit. Anti Whites use them for their own purposes.
Which minority is facing torture and murder today? South African Whites, being killed by Blacks.
racistsupremacistnazi are just slurs to shut down opposition to Anti Whiteism and White G...Replies: @Sam Coulton
LMFAO, no.
I feel that there is a specific meaning given to "somewhat axiomatic", which has nothing to do with axioms, real, social or imagined:This is just a very confusing way of saying "These days, custom has it that..."Well, yeah.
But the information content of the above phrase reduces to 0 bits, or at least, nothing can be deduced from such a saying.
https://i.imgur.com/D9jHigM.jpg
And of course Euclid would never say:Because triangle is just defined as something with three sides, and equilateral triangles are just special cases of these.
What one might hear is:i.e. we don't know but there is strong evidence for this. We are still hoping for a proof before we need to add it to the axiom set like the Continuum Hypothesis..Replies: @kaganovitch, @Kronos, @Pericles
I feel that there is a specific meaning given to “somewhat axiomatic”, which has nothing to do with axioms, real, social or imagined: It is somewhat axiomatic at this point that diversity of all sorts, including racial diversity, is an important aspect of education.
This is just a very confusing way of saying “These days, custom has it that…”
Nah, It’s a way of saying ‘I’m high on my own supply’.
The real winners will be those who are…eaten first!
https://jackchick.wordpress.com/2009/07/08/chick-parody-who-will-be-eaten-first/
The Elder Gods are coming and everyone is doomed!
I feel that there is a specific meaning given to "somewhat axiomatic", which has nothing to do with axioms, real, social or imagined:This is just a very confusing way of saying "These days, custom has it that..."Well, yeah.
But the information content of the above phrase reduces to 0 bits, or at least, nothing can be deduced from such a saying.
https://i.imgur.com/D9jHigM.jpg
And of course Euclid would never say:Because triangle is just defined as something with three sides, and equilateral triangles are just special cases of these.
What one might hear is:i.e. we don't know but there is strong evidence for this. We are still hoping for a proof before we need to add it to the axiom set like the Continuum Hypothesis..Replies: @kaganovitch, @Kronos, @Pericles
Remember, judges are more often lawyers with failed legal careers. US judges are supposed to be passive and allow the lawyers, juries, and Congress do the heavy work. They’re just there to keep things civil and follow minimum sentencing requirements.
If Affirmative Action ends with blacks stuck at associate positions, I’m sure being a judge looks a lot more appealing.
This is just a very confusing way of saying “These days, custom has it that…”
Nah, It's a way of saying 'I'm high on my own supply'.Replies: @Anonymous
What do you mean by this? How is it applicable to this situation.
Old Jerusalem Jewish joke;An elderly Arab man is trying to take his siesta nap and a bunch of children outside are playing and making noise so he goes outside and says " Foolish children, here you are playing outside and you don't even know they are giving out sweetmeats at the Shechem gate in honor of the sultan's birthday!" So the kids run off and as he's getting back into bed he says to himself "They're giving out sweetmeats at the shechem gate and I'm sleeping here?" and he runs off to get his share of the fictional sweets.
(Yeah, yeah, the Jews are always making phone of Goyish kep blah blah blah. Spare me)Replies: @Anonymous, @TTSSYF
Trump what a peace monger. Truly Libs want a war. Check out that Netflix series about an alternate universe with steampunk elves. They literally call for a war with the Warsaw Pact because they're mean to elves.Replies: @Jim Don Bob
Miss Lindsay also said the he would out the whistle blowers if the Dems keep this shite up.
If you keep pushing ‘Diversity is great, Diversity is vital’ ad nauseaum, eventually you start believing your own B.S. Why is it vital and great? Don’t you know ‘it’s axiomatic!
Old Jerusalem Jewish joke;An elderly Arab man is trying to take his siesta nap and a bunch of children outside are playing and making noise so he goes outside and says ” Foolish children, here you are playing outside and you don’t even know they are giving out sweetmeats at the Shechem gate in honor of the sultan’s birthday!” So the kids run off and as he’s getting back into bed he says to himself “They’re giving out sweetmeats at the shechem gate and I’m sleeping here?” and he runs off to get his share of the fictional sweets.
(Yeah, yeah, the Jews are always making phone of Goyish kep blah blah blah. Spare me)
That's called assuming your conclusion. Law schools should require a course in logic.Replies: @Stebbing Heuer, @Neil Templeton
When it comes to reasoning, Belief Preservation is a stronger influence than logic.
Teach logic all you like, it won’t help whilever people are slaves to their mind-sets – it will just help them better rationalise their prejudices, as judge B. has done in this case.
Old Jerusalem Jewish joke;An elderly Arab man is trying to take his siesta nap and a bunch of children outside are playing and making noise so he goes outside and says " Foolish children, here you are playing outside and you don't even know they are giving out sweetmeats at the Shechem gate in honor of the sultan's birthday!" So the kids run off and as he's getting back into bed he says to himself "They're giving out sweetmeats at the shechem gate and I'm sleeping here?" and he runs off to get his share of the fictional sweets.
(Yeah, yeah, the Jews are always making phone of Goyish kep blah blah blah. Spare me)Replies: @Anonymous, @TTSSYF
Thank you.
That's called assuming your conclusion. Law schools should require a course in logic.Replies: @Stebbing Heuer, @Neil Templeton
Also known as “Begging the Question”, though this phrase is used today to refer to a question raised rather than answered.
Waban, Massachusetts is Judge Allison Burroughs place of residence. Its the third rated zip code in America.
Kinda doubt she encounters much diversity personally, no?
Speaking of judges and diversity, did you catch the one where a judge sent a black juror to jail for ten days for sleeping through jury duty; he explained that the guy was the only black juror and his absence deprived the benefit of representation of the AA community in the trial. Punch line at 0:57.
So true.
Agreed. Whether the new model was actually an improvement is debatable.
Supposedly when Zhou Enlai was asked about the impact of the French Revolution he replied, “It’s too early to say.”
Unfortunately, as is the case with most of the really great quotes, he didn’t actually say that.
Lots of nations are pretty artificial. The United Kingdom for instance is not a real nation. Belgium clearly is not a real nation. Canada is not a real nation. Lots of nations are either empires (like the United Kingdom) or historical accidents.
Judge Burroughs is the judge who struck down President Trump’s travel ban, a ruling since overturned by the Supreme Court. Just who is this Judge Burroughs?
She was born in 1961 and raised in Boston, Massachusetts. She attended Middlebury College (2015 tuition, room and board: $61,046).
So obviously she understands the value of diversity: she started her law career as a clerk to a Jewish judge, and was appointed by a black president based on the advice of a Cherokee Indian maiden senator.
Waban, Massachusetts?
A village outside of Boston? Sounds lovely. Certainly it must enjoy all kinds of diversity.
Rich whites, rich blacks, rich Hispanics, rich Asians, all living together in perfect harmony with each other, I’m sure.
So not so many blacks or Hispanics. Woops. Probably not that many Muslims, either. We need diversity, but we also need diverse kinds of diversity, and that kind of diversity should be preserved for a less rarefied atmosphere than the town in which Judge Burroughs resides.
Metro Boston is about as racist a community as there is in the entire country.
_Love_ this Boston Globe editorial headline:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2017/12/17/racism-bleeds-boston-black-talent/BgvXk4gb3FlKfYKMXKkUdL/story.html
I feel that there is a specific meaning given to "somewhat axiomatic", which has nothing to do with axioms, real, social or imagined:This is just a very confusing way of saying "These days, custom has it that..."Well, yeah.
But the information content of the above phrase reduces to 0 bits, or at least, nothing can be deduced from such a saying.
https://i.imgur.com/D9jHigM.jpg
And of course Euclid would never say:Because triangle is just defined as something with three sides, and equilateral triangles are just special cases of these.
What one might hear is:i.e. we don't know but there is strong evidence for this. We are still hoping for a proof before we need to add it to the axiom set like the Continuum Hypothesis..Replies: @kaganovitch, @Kronos, @Pericles
Though in the case of Judge Allison the evidence is not strong at all. She should in the interest of truthfulness (“how quaint!”) have struck out ‘axiomatic’ and replaced it with ‘dogmatic’.
Seems like a win-win. Less foreign entanglement and fewer middle eastern refugees fleeing through Turkey.Replies: @Charon, @William Badwhite, @Whiskey, @Pericles, @Dieter Kief
An interesting take, and I hope it is so. Here in Sweden, our loyal media have been in a tearful hysterical rage about the eeevil Trump and the sad fate of the curds.
Don’t doubt the wisdom of Dan Quayle!
She should have gone with: “It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single college in possession of a good endowment, must be in want of diversity.”
I keep rolling this nagging question around in my brain: who has the money? And a secondary question: who consumes?
First older people have money, and those people are mostly white and aging. When I went to visit my aunt and uncle in the Bay Area several yrs back they told me as they're in their 70s now me being there gave them a chance to spend money. Otherwise they go to their garden at 7am and then stay home all day unless they go to the grocery store or to the quick stop to buy lotto s scratchers.
At some point the corporations will side against whites as mostly young people and thus to them minorities consume.
I'm in ny 30s and going out to eat twice a week(think a ten buck sub, not something fancy) and going bowling once a yr and to the movie theater 3 or 4 times a year are my only vices.....corporations need young white girls and women to buy useless crap they dont need. Recall whiskey saying 80% of consumer purchases are made by or directly influenced by women....
Old people sell "down" into smaller houses. Hell a friend of mine who used to be a tow driver and works in restaurants is in his mid 40s now and he told me the other day once his daughter graduated in a few yrs he and his wife will move to Florida into a 1 br apartment and abandon their huge rental house they live in now.
My point? Old white people dont consume save on medical stuff and most corporations and Wall Street hates this.
Their solution? Reparations? Increased welfare for minorities? I dunno you guys tell me
But somehow they're going to have to get cash into the hands of minorities to spend on useless unnecessary consumption and gizmos that the corporations make in China and Bangladesh.
Without that we fall into a Japanese style deflationary malaise.
What do you guys think?Replies: @Whiskey, @TTSSYF
I don’t think that’s an accurate picture you’re painting. While they aren’t buying work clothes, having their nails done, or remodeling their houses, retirees spend a lot of money traveling, and not just out of the U.S. My parents traveled all over the country in an RV for 20 years spending enormous amounts of money on gas, eating at expensive restaurants while traveling or at home, with friends, buying the latest electronic gadgetry, and paying vet bills for their pets. I also know a lot of older people who ladle out money to children and grandchildren without waiting to die to have it given to them (as one elderly person said, she’d rather hear the thank yous in person than have them said when the will is read).
he doent have a single good thing to say about diversityReplies: @Herbert West
European immigrants didn’t integrate as much as he thinks— for the most part they kept their religion and their values—which, it turned out, was not “for the best”, unless you’re a communist cuck like Putnam (who probably has fantasies about his Jewish wife “integrating with diversity”)
"That which does not kill us, makes us stronger!"
"The dose makes the poison."
Just keep adding more "diversity," until it kills us...Replies: @TTSSYF
Don’t forget “Arbeit macht frei” and “Some animals are more equal than others.”
Old Jerusalem Jewish joke;An elderly Arab man is trying to take his siesta nap and a bunch of children outside are playing and making noise so he goes outside and says " Foolish children, here you are playing outside and you don't even know they are giving out sweetmeats at the Shechem gate in honor of the sultan's birthday!" So the kids run off and as he's getting back into bed he says to himself "They're giving out sweetmeats at the shechem gate and I'm sleeping here?" and he runs off to get his share of the fictional sweets.
(Yeah, yeah, the Jews are always making phone of Goyish kep blah blah blah. Spare me)Replies: @Anonymous, @TTSSYF
Why should we spare you when that’s just what you did?
http://begthequestion.info/
You can say that again!
Meanwhile Diverse people have upped their turnstile jumping, fair evading game from subway trains to commercial airliners:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/woman-gets-on-delta-plane-to-atlanta-with-no-ticket-id-in-security-breach/ar-AAIlk2P
Y’all stay classy now!
Somehow I doubt this woman will be made to pay any share of the expenses she incurred.
She was born in 1961 and raised in Boston, Massachusetts. She attended Middlebury College (2015 tuition, room and board: $61,046).So obviously she understands the value of diversity: she started her law career as a clerk to a Jewish judge, and was appointed by a black president based on the advice of a Cherokee Indian maiden senator.Waban, Massachusetts?A village outside of Boston? Sounds lovely. Certainly it must enjoy all kinds of diversity.Rich whites, rich blacks, rich Hispanics, rich Asians, all living together in perfect harmony with each other, I'm sure.So not so many blacks or Hispanics. Woops. Probably not that many Muslims, either. We need diversity, but we also need diverse kinds of diversity, and that kind of diversity should be preserved for a less rarefied atmosphere than the town in which Judge Burroughs resides.Replies: @Justvisiting, @Brutusale
Blacks in Newton keep a _very_ low profile.
Metro Boston is about as racist a community as there is in the entire country.
_Love_ this Boston Globe editorial headline:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2017/12/17/racism-bleeds-boston-black-talent/BgvXk4gb3FlKfYKMXKkUdL/story.html
“Begging the question” and “rent-seeking” are inherently confusing terms for important concepts, and should have been phrased better at their introductions.
couldcouldn't care less. Alas.I thought Putnam had converted to Judaism.
It wasn’t so funny for the victims. Between a million and a half and three million people were abducted from Poland, Ukraine, and southern Russia between the fifteenth and eighteenth centuries. Most of them ended up in Turkey but some were sold to clients as far away as North Africa and northern India.
By the way, those are low-end estimates. An unknown number died on the way to the slave markets. The slave trade depopulated large areas of what is now Ukraine.
“It is somewhat axiomatic at this point that diversity of all sorts, including racial diversity, is an important aspect of education.”
It is a shame that all those rich kids in east coast private schools have to do without it. There should be some type of law mandating that not even the rich should have to do without the all the benefits of diversity. No child left behind.
If Affirmative Action ends with blacks stuck at associate positions, I’m sure being a judge looks a lot more appealing.Replies: @keypusher
This is the opposite of reality, especially for the federal judiciary. Those jobs are good, prestigious, and very much sought after.
Judges do not operate in a vacuum. They are supposed to rule in accordance with existing caselaw. Courts, including the Supreme Court, have said repeatedly that diversity makes education better. Yeah, the judge probably believes it anyway — people who don’t think diversity is a good thing, at least out loud, are not likely to get nominated to the federal bench, or any high-profile job. But she would be obligated to say it whether she believed it or not.
This.
And the “somewhat” gives that away.
Our host is, of course, being droll. The opening element of Euclid’s Elements involves the definition of a point.
(Fitzpatrick’s Heiberg, 2007)
https://farside.ph.utexas.edu/Books/Euclid/Elements.pdf
https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/woman-gets-on-delta-plane-to-atlanta-with-no-ticket-id-in-security-breach/ar-AAIlk2P
Y'all stay classy now!Replies: @Charon
I’ve seen this happen a couple of times, but it never made the news AFAIK. Always entitled negroes who act mortally offended that The Man is demanding that they produce a boarding pass as though it’s Alabama in 1920 again.
Somehow I doubt this woman will be made to pay any share of the expenses she incurred.
I would like to think the European pendulum will swing back when their precious social welfare states, which, though onerous, have always been supported by close knit communities who don’t want to see the ‘black sheep’ and ‘ne’er do wells’ of the extended families live like dogs, now taken over by diverse ethnicities who have no desire to put anything in the social ‘kitty’.
It may take a while, but I just don’t see Omar or Mishne braving the cold seas on a fishing vessel or manning forestry equipment in sub-zero temperatures when the Scandinavian cities are total shit holes and the productive populations have moved back to the countrysides.
(Diversity is an urban problem, by the way, Steve. Maybe you could write a few things about this idea? Coupled with Kunstler’s theses?)
She was born in 1961 and raised in Boston, Massachusetts. She attended Middlebury College (2015 tuition, room and board: $61,046).So obviously she understands the value of diversity: she started her law career as a clerk to a Jewish judge, and was appointed by a black president based on the advice of a Cherokee Indian maiden senator.Waban, Massachusetts?A village outside of Boston? Sounds lovely. Certainly it must enjoy all kinds of diversity.Rich whites, rich blacks, rich Hispanics, rich Asians, all living together in perfect harmony with each other, I'm sure.So not so many blacks or Hispanics. Woops. Probably not that many Muslims, either. We need diversity, but we also need diverse kinds of diversity, and that kind of diversity should be preserved for a less rarefied atmosphere than the town in which Judge Burroughs resides.Replies: @Justvisiting, @Brutusale
As the joke goes locally: Newton is the Garden City; there’s a rose in bloom on every corner.
Wouldn’t be a bad time for another Steve Kerr, Pete Strzok, Obama Theoretical-American post.
Seems like a win-win. Less foreign entanglement and fewer middle eastern refugees fleeing through Turkey.Replies: @Charon, @William Badwhite, @Whiskey, @Pericles, @Dieter Kief
Ok. But in control of the situation would be Erdogan then, not Trump. – Big or small difference?
There is no way to tell how anything will turn out in the Middle East. And that applies regardless of whether we have our hands in it or not.
It could be a big difference for the Kurds. For the U.S., however, there doesn’t seem to be any upside in “being in control of the situation” in Syria. Turkey, Israel, the Assad regime, and the Kurds all have a vested interest in keeping ISIS down and out. So that part should take care of itself.
There is no way to tell how anything will turn out in the Middle East. And that applies regardless of whether we have our hands in it or not.
Have you resigned yourself to a (grudging?) acceptance of the incorrect usage of ‘beg the question’ to mean raise the question? (Or begs for the question)
The case of forte (correctly pronounced fort; the e is silent) being mispronounced as fortay may be a completely lost cause at this point. And what about homage? While correctly pronounced with or without sounding the h, the pretentious, pseudo-French rendering OH-MAHGE (ending the same as in image) is incorrect but, alas, all-too-common. (And I’ve been disappointed to hear it from people who should know better, including an individual whom I have considerable respect for and often quote.)
But, clearly, a lot of people just
couldcouldn’t care less. Alas.Its only when you question these axioms that the hateful truth comes out, donchaknow?