From CNN’s opinion section:
Opinion by Van Jones • 6h ago
676 CommentsThree decades ago, when four White Los Angeles police officers were videotaped beating Rodney King, the public outcry was heard around the world. In fact, I got arrested for the first time in my life during protests that followed. And I subsequently dedicated my career as a lawyer to helping to sue rogue cops, close prisons and reform the criminal justice system. It was a defining moment for the nation and the world.
What happened to King was horrifying — but at least he survived the ordeal. Tyre Nichols, tragically, did not survive his: The 29-year-old Black man died earlier this month after a police traffic stop and violent arrest in Memphis, Tennessee. …
Five former Memphis police officers, fired for their alleged actions during Nichols’ arrest, have now been indicted on charges including kidnapping and murder. … But — surprisingly to many people — the five officers charged with viciously beating him were also Black.
How do we explain Nichols’ horrific killing, allegedly at the hands of police who looked like him?
From the King beating to the murder nearly three years ago of George Floyd, American society has often focused on the race of the officers — so often White — as a factor in their deplorable acts of violence.
But the narrative “White cop kills unarmed Black man” should never have been the sole lens through which we attempted to understand police abuse and misconduct. It’s time to move to a more nuanced discussion of the way police violence endangers Black lives.
Black people are not immune to anti-Black messages
One of the sad facts about anti-Black racism is that Black people ourselves are not immune to its pernicious effects. Society’s message that Black people are inferior, unworthy and dangerous is pervasive. Over many decades, numerous experiments have shown that these ideas can infiltrate Black minds as well as White. Self-hatred is a real thing.
That’s why a Black store owner might regard customers of his same race with suspicion, while treating his White patrons with deference.
This strikes me as dumbed down Foucault. Because we know, a priori, that a black store owner would have no valid empirical reason to fear being stuck up by a black man more than a white man, the fact that many black store owners do fear exactly that is proof of how pervasive white supremacist propaganda is. Or something like that.
An interesting question is whether Foucault believed what his followers assume he did. My impression is that he didn’t really believe all that social constructionist silliness that has come to be associated with his name, but he didn’t mind his dumber followers believing it if that’s what they really wanted to believe and were naive to think he’d proved their fundamental prejudices correct.
But Foucault was not a good person.
Black people can harbor anti-Black sentiments and can act on those feelings in harmful ways.
Black cops are often socialized in police departments that view certain neighborhoods as war zones. In those departments, few officers get disciplined for dishing out “street justice” in certain precincts — often populated by Black, brown or low-income people — where there is a tacit understanding that the “rulebook” simply doesn’t apply.
Cops of all colors, including Black police officers, internalize those messages — and sometimes act on them. In fact, in Black neighborhoods, the phenomenon of brutal Black cops singling out young Black men for abuse is nothing new. Back in 1989, the rap group NWA highlighted the problem in a classic hip-hop anthem, in which Ice Cube rapped:
“But don’t let it be a Black and White (cop)/
Coz they’ll slam ya/
Down to the street top/
Black police showing out for the White cop.”
When it comes to police violence, race does matter — but possibly not the way you think.
At the end of the day, it is the race of the victim who is brutalized — not the race of the violent cop — that is most relevant in determining whether racial bias is a factor in police violence. It’s hard to imagine five cops of any color beating a White person to death under similar circumstances. And it is almost impossible to imagine five Black cops giving a White arrestee the kind of beat-down that Nichols allegedly received.
It’s almost impossible to imagine it being treated as national news on CNN.
Of course, the obvious issue here is that the majority of victims of black criminality is made up of blacks, so they know all too well “What’s up.”
Less explored and more salient question here is the discipline rate of police officers by race. Blacks in other professions – law, medicine, etc. – are disproportionately sanctioned for misconduct, which confirms the notion of mismatch due to affirmative action. Does this also apply to law enforcement? I would think so, but I’d like to see the data.
The answer is the mental model, mind set, orientation, or whatever one wants to call it, that Van Jones, and not just Van Jones, operates out of, or, to put it baldly, is entirely dependent on. Let's call that orientation The Myth Of Innocence. The idea that says We never do anything wrong. Things are done to us. Never mind that this kind of thinking makes change and growth an impossibility. What's worth focusing on here is the way it works. It works by connecting language, not to the real world, but to more language. Case in point: What is there in the real world that the word Society as used above directs us to locate and informs us about?
What is there in the real world that the words Society's message directs us to locate and informs us about?
What experiments is he talking about, or is he just talking (connecting language to yet more language)? How reliable, or verifiable, are those studies?
How do the ideas he refers to infiltrate Black minds?
And for a bonus question, What is there in the real world that the word mind directs us to locate and informs us about?
Lastly, if self-hatred is a real thing, then what how do we go about finding it? What are its attributes?
The point is, just when they are supposed to move out of language and into the real world, they offer us more language. Language, moreover, that rarely if ever makes contact with the real world. That's why so much of what they say, though constantly assesrted, is never proven, or hardly ever.
No surprise there, since so much of their language is never questioned or analyzed, but simply asserted as true (and because it is "true" it should be used to control your behavior). It would be embarrassing to question and analyze the language they use, since for the most part their language consists of a bunch of metaphysical pseudo-entities, vague abstractions, glittering generalities, absurd absolutes and worn-out verbal counters - all of which are supposed to stun us into a bashful silence.
In short, they operate out of a magical use of language. Virtually all of the ideas deposited from the bowels of Identity Politics and forced on those of us who, unlike them have no institutional power or cultural control, is characterized by magical thinking. They are no different from a sorceress who bestows an enemy's name on a wax image and then melts the wax image in a fire. Of course it's equally embarrassing how many people are so obliging and cooperative in such matters.
But the fact that not everyone is willing to go along to get along is why they have to aboslish freedom of speech. Exactly because it would be so easy to reduce their magical thinking to rubble faster than they can say Whiteness.Replies: @James Forrestal
I would like to introduce these people to the reality of policing in 100% black sub-Saharan states, I don’t think many here will be surprised that things like human rights don’t play a big factor in their behaviour.
They've barricaded themselves into the cockpit, and there's really nothing anyone can do or say.
Like all such benefits, and they are many, they'll never be accounted for, because reasons. And like all such benefits, they were (arguably) paid for by the first generation or two, while all subsequent generations benefit without having paid at all.Quite the contrary, these subsequent generations have produced mainly costs--endless, colossal costs. What was that about reparations again?
Steve, the big mistake that you make is to suppose that these people are governed by reason – this is, charitably, the default condition of those raised and brought up in environments where reasoning is cherished and inculcated.
No. The Antifa brigade, to give but one example, are cultists and fanatics. Sheep who will do anything their leader tells them to do. The desire to be *seen* as a fanatic is their guiding motif.
Blacks invariably act out of pure tribal instinct. If one of their own is killed by a white, a white life must be taken as a blood price. Or, as another example, black politics is purely guided by the aim of taking from whites to give to blacks, and the ultimate goal of making whites subservient to blacks.
The NYT, the WaPo, The Economist, the BBC etc etc are driven, in the main, by pure pomposity and an over inflated, puffed up sense of their own superiority. Heaven knows why. The pompous thing to do is to shit on whites from on high. And they do.
And, as far as I can tell, they tend to be educated offspring of the White managerial and professional classes.
Seems to me that what they want is less to be "*seen* as a fanatic" than to exercise and hold power.
Will they end up being rewarded formally by the power structure for their efforts?
An awful lot of New Leftists ended up doing rather nicely for themselves, in terms not only of power but also money.Replies: @jinkforp, @Prester John, @Redneck farmer, @Unladen Swallow
At the end of the day, it is the race of the victim who is brutalized — not the race of the violent cop — that is most relevant in determining whether racial bias is a factor in police violence. It’s hard to imagine five cops of any color beating a White person to death under similar circumstances.
Van Jones need not strain his imagination. Kelly Thomas in Fullerton ,CA, was beaten to death in 2011 by three cops who were later acquitted of his murder. If his death of his sort (white) mattered to Mr. Jones and his sort (elite) and directed police reform, possibly Tyre Nichols would be alive now.
Likewise, cops in Texas suffocated Tony Timpa (white) three years before the death of George Floyd (golden martyr), but that was not important, that was not a national call to reckoning.
They were murdered by a team of black Houston cops based on a a warrant obtained by lying about their supposed drug dealing. Totally made up.
A black Houston police detective (still in jail, not prison) was convicted of murder. The Tuttle's lawyer told a group of us at a local civic meeting that this was done because allegedly Mr. Tuttle made a comment about the detective's black cop girlfriend that he overheard.
They and their dog were killed at 3 AM in a barrage of bullets. The Houston Chronicle front page story headline said "deadly drug raid". Only later did the chilling truth come out. The main reason truth surfaced was the that this poorly organized hit also injured one of the bust-in-the window cops.
Black squad of rogue cops kill innocent White couple (and their dog!), No Federal civil rights investigation, no White riots, no protest marches by preachers, nothing...Replies: @J.Ross, @James Forrestal
John McWhorter makes this point about cherry picking incidents for a narrative frequently. iSteve has written more than once about the white teenage violin player killed by cops on some sort of drug stakeout.
How much “street justice” is there actually? With all the body cameras now, seems we should know. When it’s pointed out to leftists that unjustified police killings are rare, they often respond by claiming there’s a lot of undocumented nonfatal beatdowns. Rough stats would be nice to have.
At least my generation knew who Foucault was and that he had been a real live Frenchman (bonus points to those who knew that Judith Butler was basically the tediously entitled, infinitely mediocre, lesbian version of Foucault; basically the same relationship as exists right now between hardest-working-man-in-law Jose Baez, literally helping his clients get away with murder, and insufferable TV law [email protected] Rachel Maddow).
Your typical Millenial [email protected] forever-cub reporter national journalist, however, if they’ve ever heard of Foucault, more likely than not thinks he’s some Harry Potter villain.
Try being a white guy at the hands of black cops. I could tell you stories, but they’re not the kind that will ever, ever see the light of day in our mass media.
For one thing, they’d be accurate; for another, they don’t involve eluding or resisting. In fact, they don’t involve any crime at all.
Except for the crime of being white in what used to be a civilized country.
After all, they don't square with The Narrative.
No. The Antifa brigade, to give but one example, are cultists and fanatics. Sheep who will do anything their leader tells them to do. The desire to be *seen* as a fanatic is their guiding motif.
Blacks invariably act out of pure tribal instinct. If one of their own is killed by a white, a white life must be taken as a blood price. Or, as another example, black politics is purely guided by the aim of taking from whites to give to blacks, and the ultimate goal of making whites subservient to blacks.
The NYT, the WaPo, The Economist, the BBC etc etc are driven, in the main, by pure pomposity and an over inflated, puffed up sense of their own superiority. Heaven knows why. The pompous thing to do is to shit on whites from on high. And they do.Replies: @PhysicistDave
Anonymous[300] wrote to Sailer:
Well… Antifa appear to be overwhelmingly White.
And, as far as I can tell, they tend to be educated offspring of the White managerial and professional classes.
Seems to me that what they want is less to be “*seen* as a fanatic” than to exercise and hold power.
Will they end up being rewarded formally by the power structure for their efforts?
An awful lot of New Leftists ended up doing rather nicely for themselves, in terms not only of power but also money.
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While watching Carlson last night I was actually thinking same thing about Antifa, even comparing them to the 60s New Left (who, as you correctly point out, did quite well in the power pecking order).
My white friend’s white brother was murdered by white police for standing in traffic holding a car aerial. Corvallis, Oregon, 2005.
Whites are murdered by police in the USA at far above their proportionate crime rates. One reason for this is the low quality of many poorly paid small town police. I believe the ones in the Corvallis murder had been Californian urban police fired for brutality etc & rehired by an impoverished community who could not get better.
Of course the media does not give a shit when police murder whites. Even my friend, very left-liberal, thinks her brother’s murder doesn’t matter the way BLM matters.
And, as far as I can tell, they tend to be educated offspring of the White managerial and professional classes.
Seems to me that what they want is less to be "*seen* as a fanatic" than to exercise and hold power.
Will they end up being rewarded formally by the power structure for their efforts?
An awful lot of New Leftists ended up doing rather nicely for themselves, in terms not only of power but also money.Replies: @jinkforp, @Prester John, @Redneck farmer, @Unladen Swallow
My impression is that antifa tend to be downward mobile white working class, the sort who gather in hip college towns but don’t actually attend the school.
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I hope America is watching and learning that you have to fight to win. You even have to be willing to piss off the media to win.Replies: @Inverness
We’re going to be getting lower and lower quality cops nationwide as one result of the Great Awokening. It’s already begun, so please everyone plan accordingly. Aa much as you can, anyway.
Every woman I know thinks like this, and most of the men, too. Tiny Duck may be a parody, but just barely. People really do think like this. Dead white people make them happy.
The MSM are just warming up now to ensure that the public realizes that the incident in Memphis is really the result of that invisible but ubiquitous white supremacy.
No matter what happens, it’s an excuse to drum up more anti-white hatred. It’s their stock in trade.
The French (at least as far as I knew them a little back in the ‘70s) don’t take their radical philosophers as seriously and literally as we take them. To them, radical philosophizin’ is more like performance art, a brief, thrilling visit to the land of edginess. It’s also flirtation fodder — hey, let’s turn ourselves on by twirling some dangerous ideas around as we make our way to the boudoir. A little posturing and provocation, a lusicous payoff, then back to our ultra-bourgeois lives. It’s all about enhancing the tingle.
The French in fact don’t take philosophy generally to be what we Anglo-German types take it to be — something along the lines of a science-like, seriously intended search for truth. Hard for us earnest, cloddish types to get used to, but once you get the hang of the fact that a lot of French culture is about flirtation, provocation, fancy, ornamentation, lusciousness, strictness, wit and irony, French culture generally makes a lot more sense.
I was in grad school in California in the late ‘70s, after having spent some student time in France, and I watched with amazement as the academics around me read Foucault and such — and took them literally and seriously. How dumb, and how typical of Americans.
During the period 1800-1814 the rest of Europe was to be given more than a taste of the above--at the point of a bayonet!
Add "militarism" to the list.
Foucault types of the female persuasion here in the states don’t seem like the gals you’d want take to the boudoir. Is it different in France?
How do I know this? By being mentored in part by two notable French intellectuals.Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Reg Cæsar
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Yes, that’s my impression of Portland antifa.
In contrast, in 2020, Beverly Hills (which is really rich) was one of the few places on the west coast where Trump supporters could rally with the confidence that the cops would repel antifa attacks.
"In contrast, in 2020, Beverly Hills (which is really rich) was one of the few places on the west coast where Trump supporters could rally with the confidence that the cops would repel antifa attacks."
Too bad for you that there aren't many Trump supporters in BH regardless.Replies: @Alyosha
Here's an interesting article from the Iranian Daily Forward: The Original Antifa Were Persians In New Jersey
And here's a good piece on what the authors refer to as "Persian antifa" in the current year.
See also this piece on antifa's very Persian history, this handy list of the Top 9 Farsi Antifa Anthems, etc.
1. I think it’s possible that the five black cops might have hesitated a bit if the guy they were whomping was white. So I give that race angle 2 or 3 out of 20 points.
2. The better race question is: Is this a police brutality case or an affirmative action case?
3. in any case, from the little video I saw on the NYTimes, the officers were really worked up right from the get-go, which suggests something had happened to get them riled.
They would just say it was the legacy of colonialism and global white supremacy.
They’ve barricaded themselves into the cockpit, and there’s really nothing anyone can do or say.
I was reminded of the story Jesse Jackson told about how he and a black friend were walking on a street at night and heard youths approaching from behind and assuming (fearing) they were black and how relieved they were when they saw they were White.
Interesting digression on Foucault.
His philosophy strikes me not so much at rational discourse as imprecise language and innuendo. This permits, even requires, the reader to fill in the blanks between the pieces. The result is the assumptions and perceptions at any link in the chain may arguably make some sense. Moreover, few of the assumptions or definitions are precise enough to deconstruct across the gaps, or even realize that they have changed. This is how to avoid the problem that when the any link in the chain fails, the argument fails. The links are plastic. The gestalt becomes not so much a coherent story so much as “dream logic”.
No wonder it seems so detached from reality.
And, as far as I can tell, they tend to be educated offspring of the White managerial and professional classes.
Seems to me that what they want is less to be "*seen* as a fanatic" than to exercise and hold power.
Will they end up being rewarded formally by the power structure for their efforts?
An awful lot of New Leftists ended up doing rather nicely for themselves, in terms not only of power but also money.Replies: @jinkforp, @Prester John, @Redneck farmer, @Unladen Swallow
Thanks–ya beat me to it.
While watching Carlson last night I was actually thinking same thing about Antifa, even comparing them to the 60s New Left (who, as you correctly point out, did quite well in the power pecking order).
“…a lot of French culture is about flirtation, provocation, fancy, ornamentation, lusciousness, strictness, wit and irony…”
During the period 1800-1814 the rest of Europe was to be given more than a taste of the above–at the point of a bayonet!
Add “militarism” to the list.
Van Jones. Yeah, where have I heard that name before? Oh, yeah, Glenn Beck was calling him out as the Commie he is about a dozen years ago.
I have found out that his Memphis thing is a big story only from a friend watching too many youtube videos on his phone. It’s only a big story because they want you all on the Infotainment.
I don’t give a crap. The black thugs in Memphis are just waiting for the word on the riots. You’ll get arrested for breaking into the stores or burning stuff too early, without being part of the crowd. After the crowd has been ginned up properly from this Infotainment, it’s go-time, time to go grab some new electronics and bling.
You’ve got some interesting posts on this already, Steve, but I consider this fixation part of the general problem. What do you expect from this crowd? Police brutality IS a problem, but the answer is surely not AA to go-along to get-along. It’s wrong – you KNOW that.
The MM wouldn’t go near your stories.
After all, they don’t square with The Narrative.
And, as far as I can tell, they tend to be educated offspring of the White managerial and professional classes.
Seems to me that what they want is less to be "*seen* as a fanatic" than to exercise and hold power.
Will they end up being rewarded formally by the power structure for their efforts?
An awful lot of New Leftists ended up doing rather nicely for themselves, in terms not only of power but also money.Replies: @jinkforp, @Prester John, @Redneck farmer, @Unladen Swallow
The sort of kids a couple of generations ago would be supported by their parents, then siblings and in-laws.
In Foucault’s case, buttknife would be more appropriate …
I have found out that his Memphis thing is a big story only from a friend watching too many youtube videos on his phone. It's only a big story because they want you all on the Infotainment.
I don't give a crap. The black thugs in Memphis are just waiting for the word on the riots. You'll get arrested for breaking into the stores or burning stuff too early, without being part of the crowd. After the crowd has been ginned up properly from this Infotainment, it's go-time, time to go grab some new electronics and bling.
You've got some interesting posts on this already, Steve, but I consider this fixation part of the general problem. What do you expect from this crowd? Police brutality IS a problem, but the answer is surely not AA to go-along to get-along. It's wrong - you KNOW that.Replies: @Almost Missouri
The funny thing about Van Jones’s Communism is that he says he became a Communist in 1992. In other word at exactly the point that Communism was collapsing in utter failure everywhere else on earth, Communism suddenly took up residence in Van Jones’s head—or at least, on his tongue—where it has dwelt ever since.
I wish some intrepid reporter would ask self-professed Communist Van Jones a question about Communism (e.g., “What part of Das Kapital did you find most persuasive?”). His answer would likely show he had no idea about Communism despite supposedly co-founding study groups on Marx and Lenin.
Never mind the postmodernism (or Communism) or blaming Whites, it’s not insane to say those cops were motivated by racism.
African Americans really really hate each other. Anyone who is around them in a work environment knows this. One might dispute whether to call that “racism”, but it’s definitely racial hatred.
And boyohboy there are people right here who know what I'm saying. I'll leave it at that.
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How many years of violent riots and we have to wonder who Antifa are? Notice that the he newly focused House Rs are asking FBI et al for answers for what appears to be the first time. I don’t recall Paul Ryan ever demanding answers. Would McCarthy have gone there but for the Gaetz rebellion? I think not.
I hope America is watching and learning that you have to fight to win. You even have to be willing to piss off the media to win.
“let’s turn ourselves on by twirling some dangerous ideas around as we make our way to the boudoir.”
Foucault types of the female persuasion here in the states don’t seem like the gals you’d want take to the boudoir. Is it different in France?
Abe writes:
Steve and readers:
The late Sir Roger Scruton had Foucault’s number. Here are some search results for further amusement.
Scruton on Foucault
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I think many of them drop/flunk out, typically by the end of their sophomore year. Drugs and alcohol play a role 100% of the time. My impression is that a disproportionate number are really downwardly mobile, parents have decent to good jobs and really disappointed the life they planned out for their child is crashing and burning. Tim Kaine’s son is a good example.
This stuff is just an open fraud.
If Van Jones is really concerned about black lives, then working for aggressive policing to get the shooty a*holes out of the black community–locked up–is job #1.
And if he really wants to reduce police killings of black guys, then the way to do that is not harrumphing about the police every time some black low-life gets killed by the cops–who afterall are going to be there on the street–but rather to beat home the message to young black guys about how to interact with the cops in a way that avoids spiraling down into a beating or shooting.
Before I cut my son loose to drive on his own, I had a very direct talk with him about interacting politely with the cops (no matter how full of it he might think they were in some particular situation). Having every black–and white–HS kid watch this Chris Rock video–they can skip a few minutes of diversity propaganda to make room–would do more good than all of this endless blather about police “racism”.
But … the comfy establishment sinecures are not for improving young black men’s behavior. They are for propagandizing against America’s–and Western Christianity’s–history, traditions, norms and people. For delegitimizing the American nation. Blacks–their history, struggles, and difficulties–are simple a cudgel to be wielded for dishing out this beating. Van Jones knows where his bread is buttered and–I assume–is psychologically comfortable with blaming “whitey” and “the system” for his people’s issues. So his relationship with our parasitic elites is “win-win”.
*Never argue with someone packing a gun.
*If you end up in jail, don't call me to get you out.Replies: @Bill Jones
I suspect Foucault preferred spoons, especially before forking.
And, as far as I can tell, they tend to be educated offspring of the White managerial and professional classes.
Seems to me that what they want is less to be "*seen* as a fanatic" than to exercise and hold power.
Will they end up being rewarded formally by the power structure for their efforts?
An awful lot of New Leftists ended up doing rather nicely for themselves, in terms not only of power but also money.Replies: @jinkforp, @Prester John, @Redneck farmer, @Unladen Swallow
I don’t know if the white Antifa types are generally the kids of corporate managers, lawyers, and doctors, they seem pretty low rent in appearance. I’m guessing more kids of of working class parents, raised in very liberal areas/regions.
But ... the comfy establishment sinecures are not for improving young black men's behavior. They are for propagandizing against America's--and Western Christianity's--history, traditions, norms and people. For delegitimizing the American nation. Blacks--their history, struggles, and difficulties--are simple a cudgel to be wielded for dishing out this beating. Van Jones knows where his bread is buttered and--I assume--is psychologically comfortable with blaming "whitey" and "the system" for his people's issues. So his relationship with our parasitic elites is "win-win".Replies: @Haxo Angmark, @New Dealer
Haxo’s experience with cops of all colors,
mostly in NYC and LA:
if you see one anywhere, make a wide detour.
there is no situation
that a cop will not make worse. Do
your own policing. A cop can kill you
for no reason at all,
then stand before a judge and say the magic words –
“your honor, I felt my life was in danger” –
and get 2 months fly-fishing in Oregon at full pay.
Less explored and more salient question here is the discipline rate of police officers by race. Blacks in other professions - law, medicine, etc. - are disproportionately sanctioned for misconduct, which confirms the notion of mismatch due to affirmative action. Does this also apply to law enforcement? I would think so, but I’d like to see the data.Replies: @Richard B, @JimDandy
No doubt. But I would argue that the less explored and far more salient question here is What is it that keeps Van Jones’ article from making contact with reality?
The answer is the mental model, mind set, orientation, or whatever one wants to call it, that Van Jones, and not just Van Jones, operates out of, or, to put it baldly, is entirely dependent on. Let’s call that orientation The Myth Of Innocence. The idea that says We never do anything wrong. Things are done to us. Never mind that this kind of thinking makes change and growth an impossibility. What’s worth focusing on here is the way it works. It works by connecting language, not to the real world, but to more language. Case in point:
What is there in the real world that the word Society as used above directs us to locate and informs us about?
What is there in the real world that the words Society’s message directs us to locate and informs us about?
What experiments is he talking about, or is he just talking (connecting language to yet more language)? How reliable, or verifiable, are those studies?
How do the ideas he refers to infiltrate Black minds?
And for a bonus question, What is there in the real world that the word mind directs us to locate and informs us about?
Lastly, if self-hatred is a real thing, then what how do we go about finding it? What are its attributes?
The point is, just when they are supposed to move out of language and into the real world, they offer us more language. Language, moreover, that rarely if ever makes contact with the real world. That’s why so much of what they say, though constantly assesrted, is never proven, or hardly ever.
No surprise there, since so much of their language is never questioned or analyzed, but simply asserted as true (and because it is “true” it should be used to control your behavior). It would be embarrassing to question and analyze the language they use, since for the most part their language consists of a bunch of metaphysical pseudo-entities, vague abstractions, glittering generalities, absurd absolutes and worn-out verbal counters – all of which are supposed to stun us into a bashful silence.
In short, they operate out of a magical use of language. Virtually all of the ideas deposited from the bowels of Identity Politics and forced on those of us who, unlike them have no institutional power or cultural control, is characterized by magical thinking. They are no different from a sorceress who bestows an enemy’s name on a wax image and then melts the wax image in a fire. Of course it’s equally embarrassing how many people are so obliging and cooperative in such matters.
But the fact that not everyone is willing to go along to get along is why they have to aboslish freedom of speech. Exactly because it would be so easy to reduce their magical thinking to rubble faster than they can say Whiteness.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reification_(fallacy)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signified_and_signifier
And of course, with modern visual media, they can create a much more immersive/ convincing version of hyperreality -- your brain takes it in almost as if it were direct experience, with very little logical analysis, so much less pilpul is required. Hence the reinvention/ reframing of blasphemy as so-called "hate speech," and the heavy promotion of this meme. People who have fully internalized this recently-reified semantic construct in its desired context will reflexively "feel" that dissident narratives are somehow "taboo" and "evil." [How they rationalize that emotional reaction is largely irrelevant to the desired results.]
Watched Sports Center last night, most of the show was about the “black man” murdered by police, statements by the NBA, etc. Not once was it mentioned that all the cops were black. Not once.
But the people know, and I don’t think in the end that too many will go crazy over this incident because there’s no white man to hate. There will be no massive riots. If it were five white cops, the country would already be burning.
Van Jones need not strain his imagination. Kelly Thomas in Fullerton ,CA, was beaten to death in 2011 by three cops who were later acquitted of his murder. If his death of his sort (white) mattered to Mr. Jones and his sort (elite) and directed police reform, possibly Tyre Nichols would be alive now.
Likewise, cops in Texas suffocated Tony Timpa (white) three years before the death of George Floyd (golden martyr), but that was not important, that was not a national call to reckoning.Replies: @Muggles, @Dr. DoomNGloom
Let’s not forget the Tuttles. A White couple sleeping at home in South Houston (a tiny suburb of Houston).
They were murdered by a team of black Houston cops based on a a warrant obtained by lying about their supposed drug dealing. Totally made up.
A black Houston police detective (still in jail, not prison) was convicted of murder. The Tuttle’s lawyer told a group of us at a local civic meeting that this was done because allegedly Mr. Tuttle made a comment about the detective’s black cop girlfriend that he overheard.
They and their dog were killed at 3 AM in a barrage of bullets. The Houston Chronicle front page story headline said “deadly drug raid”. Only later did the chilling truth come out. The main reason truth surfaced was the that this poorly organized hit also injured one of the bust-in-the window cops.
Black squad of rogue cops kill innocent White couple (and their dog!), No Federal civil rights investigation, no White riots, no protest marches by preachers, nothing…
And although the cop who falsely swore out the warrant in order to set up the murders (Gerald Goines) was Black, from the names and photos of the others charged in the conspiracy it appears that several are mestizos -- and possibly one White guy?
This is a remarkable stat:
https://web.archive.org/web/20190223131317/https://www.khou.com/article/news/investigations/khou-11-investigates-issues-with-embattled-houston-police-officers-past-no-knock-warrants/285-13b94210-449c-4406-b843-f24a45c814ce
Goines swore in search warrant affidavits that “knocking and announcing would be dangerous, futile,” because he claimed a confidential informant had seen a gun inside. Those claims led judges to grant no-knock warrants, which accounted for 96 percent of all the search warrants he filed in the last seven years
But in every one of the more than 100 drug cases based off those warrants, there’s no record of Goines ever seizing a gun after executing a no-knock search warrant.
Seems like an honest guy...
Weird coincidence department: Goines apparently arrested none other than George Floyd [yeah that George Floyd] for selling $10 worth of crack back in 2004 -- the resultant conviction will presumably be reversed, along with hundreds (thousands?) of others.
Had the police officer who subdued George Floyd been black would the officer have been charged with murder after drug addled, violent Floyd died after walking off?
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Yeah, the “French Theory” postmodernist nonsense overtaking American English Departments in the 1980s and then taking over much of the humanities disciplines in following decades, was never as influential in France as in the US, and was dead in France by the 1990s.
How do I know this? By being mentored in part by two notable French intellectuals.
But ... the comfy establishment sinecures are not for improving young black men's behavior. They are for propagandizing against America's--and Western Christianity's--history, traditions, norms and people. For delegitimizing the American nation. Blacks--their history, struggles, and difficulties--are simple a cudgel to be wielded for dishing out this beating. Van Jones knows where his bread is buttered and--I assume--is psychologically comfortable with blaming "whitey" and "the system" for his people's issues. So his relationship with our parasitic elites is "win-win".Replies: @Haxo Angmark, @New Dealer
My dad told me two things.
*Never argue with someone packing a gun.
*If you end up in jail, don’t call me to get you out.
About five years should do it.The follow up from a cop seals the deal.Replies: @That Would Be Telling
Yet another (enormous) benefit of having been brought to America.
Like all such benefits, and they are many, they’ll never be accounted for, because reasons. And like all such benefits, they were (arguably) paid for by the first generation or two, while all subsequent generations benefit without having paid at all.
Quite the contrary, these subsequent generations have produced mainly costs–endless, colossal costs. What was that about reparations again?
I hope America is watching and learning that you have to fight to win. You even have to be willing to piss off the media to win.Replies: @Inverness
Agreed, only I’d add that in both cases you might replace win with survive.
Steve Sailer:
“In contrast, in 2020, Beverly Hills (which is really rich) was one of the few places on the west coast where Trump supporters could rally with the confidence that the cops would repel antifa attacks.”
Too bad for you that there aren’t many Trump supporters in BH regardless.
Van Jones need not strain his imagination. Kelly Thomas in Fullerton ,CA, was beaten to death in 2011 by three cops who were later acquitted of his murder. If his death of his sort (white) mattered to Mr. Jones and his sort (elite) and directed police reform, possibly Tyre Nichols would be alive now.
Likewise, cops in Texas suffocated Tony Timpa (white) three years before the death of George Floyd (golden martyr), but that was not important, that was not a national call to reckoning.Replies: @Muggles, @Dr. DoomNGloom
Indeed, charitably, it’s willful ignorance. The alternatives are total idiocy or outright lying.
John McWhorter makes this point about cherry picking incidents for a narrative frequently. iSteve has written more than once about the white teenage violin player killed by cops on some sort of drug stakeout.
I have shared this before, but when I lived in a black neighborhood and the cops came for whatever, it was clear from comments some made to me as I was standing around that they really hated unruly lower class blacks.
But going to Van Jones’ comment about internalized racism, I also had an Ethiopean business owner who took a backseat to no one in his overt dislike of African Americans – how did he learn this, one wonders?
How do I know this? By being mentored in part by two notable French intellectuals.Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Reg Cæsar
Blaming the French for the mess in American academia is like blaming Jodie Foster for Reagan getting shot. It’s not their fault what their demented fans do.
The situation of a minority person being antipathetic to members of his own group is pretty general. It seems to do with one’s own standing being undercut by the behavior of others.
And boyohboy there are people right here who know what I’m saying. I’ll leave it at that.
Less explored and more salient question here is the discipline rate of police officers by race. Blacks in other professions - law, medicine, etc. - are disproportionately sanctioned for misconduct, which confirms the notion of mismatch due to affirmative action. Does this also apply to law enforcement? I would think so, but I’d like to see the data.Replies: @Richard B, @JimDandy
I predicted this exact narrative would be used in response to this exact story, and I’m sure countless other “redpilled” folks did, too. The racial narrative these days is: All whites are racist, and only whites can be racist–and NOTHING can even put a dent in this rock-solid truth. And, so, for instance, Proud Boys are the catch-all Neo-Nazis/White Nationalists/White Supremacists of our time, despite the fact that their founder is married to an American Indian woman who has given him several kids, their second leader was black-hispanic, and a significant percentage of their members are in interracial marriages. The actual Nazis–and even many “race realists”– despise Proud Boys for their race-mixing, Zionist, gay-friendly ways. Do these facts faze the woke mob one bit? Au contraire. They welcome the conversation as a nice opportunity to regurgitate inanities–“Oh, yeah, some Nazi says ‘I have black friends so I can’t be racist’ right? Sorry, PLENTY of POC internalize white racism and identify with their oppressors and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.” The maddening thing about this is I am not a Proud Boy advocate–their obsequiousness re: Israel is a deal breaker for me. And these black cops might turn out to be really bad news, who knows? But this bullshit critical race theory narrative is an assault on reason.
You made me realize that I’ve never been pulled over by a black cop in my 50 years of driving. I’m sure it would only make an unpleasant experience worse.
I had my rebel flag plate on the front, I got out to talk to him, and at some point was just pissed at the whole thing. "No, I was NOT doing 67", as he claimed, "I was doing 62!" I about yelled. (Still over the limit - I wouldn't make a good lawyer.)
The guy was so nice, just giving me a warning and then some advice: "better check your speedometer."
I got on the Interstate 50 miles later, did a check over 5 and then 10 mile markers, and, sure enough, the guy was right.
There are SOME good people around. Don't give up on them all.Replies: @Legba, @Jack D
I need to learn more about the Scorpion Squad, but isn’t their mission to attack the baddest in the ‘hood? If so, this action has a programme, and that programme is in peril.
How do I know this? By being mentored in part by two notable French intellectuals.Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Reg Cæsar
A few decades earlier, that was true of Simone de Beauvoir’s second-wave-second-sex stuff as well.
*Never argue with someone packing a gun.
*If you end up in jail, don't call me to get you out.Replies: @Bill Jones
This is the classic “Why you should never talk to the Police” video. now about 10 years old.
It is effective because of how examples of of a totally innocuous answer can turn into something else entirely.
It should be mandatory annual viewing for all coming of age White boys.
About five years should do it.
The follow up from a cop seals the deal.
You of course have to use some common sense in applying this principle, the top comment to the above book mentions a general duty to report certain basic and obvious facts after a car accident like your identity. In a self-defense situation it may be vital to preserve evidence like a weapon wielded by the perp from "walking" away from the scene, or who witnessed what happened.Replies: @Jack D
"In contrast, in 2020, Beverly Hills (which is really rich) was one of the few places on the west coast where Trump supporters could rally with the confidence that the cops would repel antifa attacks."
Too bad for you that there aren't many Trump supporters in BH regardless.Replies: @Alyosha
In fact, there were 6,329 votes for Trump in Beverly Hills, and 8,668 votes for Biden. In other words between people who voted for Trump and Biden in Beverly Hills 42.2% of Beverly Hills voters voted for Trump and 57.8% voted for Biden.
Beverly Hills is actually significantly more Republican than California as a whole, which between Trump and Biden voters voted 65% Biden and 35% Trump.
In 2016 Trump even won an entire precinct in Beverly Hills over Clinton. The neighborhood running from Beverly Hills Hotel to Los Angeles Country Club voted 54% Trump to 42% Clinton.
Also in 2020 “But a precinct above Sunset Boulevard, which roughly runs from Trousdale Estates to the Los Angeles Country Club, with the Beverly Hills Hotel between them, voted for Trump 56% to 44%”
Rimshot!
Whadda we want?
Chaos!
When do we wannit?
Now!
About five years should do it.The follow up from a cop seals the deal.Replies: @That Would Be Telling
There’s a critical change in American jurisprudence since that famous viral video on how you should not talk to the police. As the above lawyer describes it in his 2016 book You Have the Right to Remain Innocent prior to being arrested you now need to invoke your Sixth Amendment right to counsel instead of Fifth against self-incrimination. Say you’ll talk to them after retaining a lawyer.
You of course have to use some common sense in applying this principle, the top comment to the above book mentions a general duty to report certain basic and obvious facts after a car accident like your identity. In a self-defense situation it may be vital to preserve evidence like a weapon wielded by the perp from “walking” away from the scene, or who witnessed what happened.
What Duane actually says is, "mention your Sixth Amendment right to a lawyer, and tell the police that you want a lawyer. Is that honest? Not entirely, because it sounds like you are implying that you might be willing to talk to them after a lawyer shows up, and of course that is not true, and your lawyer will not agree to that. But a little dishonesty is a small price to pay to defend your freedom and your constitutional rights" . If they police want to infer that you'll talk to them once your lawyer shows up, that's their problem.
The reason Duane says to invoke your 6th Amendment right rather than the 5th is that the cop is allowed to be called to the stand to testify at trial as follows (maybe this is not quite what you said, but hey, that's what he remembers you saying): "He said he would not talk to us because the truth would incriminate him”, and from this the jury can infer guilt. However, the prosecution is not allowed to put the cop on the stand to mention the invocation of your 6th Amendment rights as evidence of guilt.
I have, but I only remember once for sure. I gotta give the guy a lot of credit. Here, I’d just got my driving record clean and was 100 miles into a 500 mile road trip for work. This black highway patrolman pulled me for 62 mph in a 55 zone on a 2-lane country road.
I had my rebel flag plate on the front, I got out to talk to him, and at some point was just pissed at the whole thing. “No, I was NOT doing 67”, as he claimed, “I was doing 62!” I about yelled. (Still over the limit – I wouldn’t make a good lawyer.)
The guy was so nice, just giving me a warning and then some advice: “better check your speedometer.”
I got on the Interstate 50 miles later, did a check over 5 and then 10 mile markers, and, sure enough, the guy was right.
There are SOME good people around. Don’t give up on them all.
Once I got pulled over for speeding on the NJ Turnpike (I really was speeding) and the cop gave me a ticket for not wearing my seatbelt (even though I was wearing my seatbelt). A seatbelt ticket is consider to be a "nonmoving violation" in NJ which does not carry "points" that will raise your insurance rates or contribute to the loss of your license. His employer , the State of NJ, got to collect on me so he was doing his job but he didn't see any reason to be working for free for the insurance company. The fine on a seatbelt ticket is lower too. So I thought that was a fair deal considering the alternative.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
I had my rebel flag plate on the front, I got out to talk to him, and at some point was just pissed at the whole thing. "No, I was NOT doing 67", as he claimed, "I was doing 62!" I about yelled. (Still over the limit - I wouldn't make a good lawyer.)
The guy was so nice, just giving me a warning and then some advice: "better check your speedometer."
I got on the Interstate 50 miles later, did a check over 5 and then 10 mile markers, and, sure enough, the guy was right.
There are SOME good people around. Don't give up on them all.Replies: @Legba, @Jack D
Yeah. I know in my case I tend to remember every detail when somebody wronged me but I get a little hazy about the times people have helped. I try to not do that, but sometimes it’s fun to seeth.
They were murdered by a team of black Houston cops based on a a warrant obtained by lying about their supposed drug dealing. Totally made up.
A black Houston police detective (still in jail, not prison) was convicted of murder. The Tuttle's lawyer told a group of us at a local civic meeting that this was done because allegedly Mr. Tuttle made a comment about the detective's black cop girlfriend that he overheard.
They and their dog were killed at 3 AM in a barrage of bullets. The Houston Chronicle front page story headline said "deadly drug raid". Only later did the chilling truth come out. The main reason truth surfaced was the that this poorly organized hit also injured one of the bust-in-the window cops.
Black squad of rogue cops kill innocent White couple (and their dog!), No Federal civil rights investigation, no White riots, no protest marches by preachers, nothing...Replies: @J.Ross, @James Forrestal
South Africa The Model.
You of course have to use some common sense in applying this principle, the top comment to the above book mentions a general duty to report certain basic and obvious facts after a car accident like your identity. In a self-defense situation it may be vital to preserve evidence like a weapon wielded by the perp from "walking" away from the scene, or who witnessed what happened.Replies: @Jack D
This is half right. You should definitely invoke your right to counsel but I wouldn’t put it that way so explicitly. You can IMPLY that you’ll talk later on but don’t actually say the words. Once your counsel shows up, they could then try to press you to talk on the basis that you agreed to talk to them in the presence of your attorney. Almost certainly, once your attorney shows up he will advise you to invoke your 5th Amendment rights anyway.
What Duane actually says is, “mention your Sixth Amendment right to a lawyer, and tell the police that you want a lawyer. Is that honest? Not entirely, because it sounds like you are implying that you might be willing to talk to them after a lawyer shows up, and of course that is not true, and your lawyer will not agree to that. But a little dishonesty is a small price to pay to defend your freedom and your constitutional rights” . If they police want to infer that you’ll talk to them once your lawyer shows up, that’s their problem.
The reason Duane says to invoke your 6th Amendment right rather than the 5th is that the cop is allowed to be called to the stand to testify at trial as follows (maybe this is not quite what you said, but hey, that’s what he remembers you saying): “He said he would not talk to us because the truth would incriminate him”, and from this the jury can infer guilt. However, the prosecution is not allowed to put the cop on the stand to mention the invocation of your 6th Amendment rights as evidence of guilt.
I had my rebel flag plate on the front, I got out to talk to him, and at some point was just pissed at the whole thing. "No, I was NOT doing 67", as he claimed, "I was doing 62!" I about yelled. (Still over the limit - I wouldn't make a good lawyer.)
The guy was so nice, just giving me a warning and then some advice: "better check your speedometer."
I got on the Interstate 50 miles later, did a check over 5 and then 10 mile markers, and, sure enough, the guy was right.
There are SOME good people around. Don't give up on them all.Replies: @Legba, @Jack D
Good cops (who are not being pressed to make ticket quotas for revenue purposes) don’t actually care that you are going 67 in a 55 or that a taillight bulb is out. The reason that they pull you over (and then let you off with a warning) is that they are actually using the traffic stop as a pretext to run a check on you and your car, get a look inside your car to see if anything is amiss, etc. This is one of the cop’s best tools for catching actual criminals, which is why the “abolish the police” folks want to abolish traffic stops.
Once I got pulled over for speeding on the NJ Turnpike (I really was speeding) and the cop gave me a ticket for not wearing my seatbelt (even though I was wearing my seatbelt). A seatbelt ticket is consider to be a “nonmoving violation” in NJ which does not carry “points” that will raise your insurance rates or contribute to the loss of your license. His employer , the State of NJ, got to collect on me so he was doing his job but he didn’t see any reason to be working for free for the insurance company. The fine on a seatbelt ticket is lower too. So I thought that was a fair deal considering the alternative.
He was right, and that was that.
Once I got pulled over for speeding on the NJ Turnpike (I really was speeding) and the cop gave me a ticket for not wearing my seatbelt (even though I was wearing my seatbelt). A seatbelt ticket is consider to be a "nonmoving violation" in NJ which does not carry "points" that will raise your insurance rates or contribute to the loss of your license. His employer , the State of NJ, got to collect on me so he was doing his job but he didn't see any reason to be working for free for the insurance company. The fine on a seatbelt ticket is lower too. So I thought that was a fair deal considering the alternative.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
That may be the case in the cities and the State of New Jersey, but that wasn’t the case when I got pulled over by that trooper. He didn’t even look in my car. We hung out by the hood of my car and he told me I was going too fast.
He was right, and that was that.
They were murdered by a team of black Houston cops based on a a warrant obtained by lying about their supposed drug dealing. Totally made up.
A black Houston police detective (still in jail, not prison) was convicted of murder. The Tuttle's lawyer told a group of us at a local civic meeting that this was done because allegedly Mr. Tuttle made a comment about the detective's black cop girlfriend that he overheard.
They and their dog were killed at 3 AM in a barrage of bullets. The Houston Chronicle front page story headline said "deadly drug raid". Only later did the chilling truth come out. The main reason truth surfaced was the that this poorly organized hit also injured one of the bust-in-the window cops.
Black squad of rogue cops kill innocent White couple (and their dog!), No Federal civil rights investigation, no White riots, no protest marches by preachers, nothing...Replies: @J.Ross, @James Forrestal
4 cops shot — apparently some of them were blindly shooting through the walls from outside while others were inside shooting the dog and the Tuttles. The police story might have worked anyway, except that the Tuttles’ relatives hired a retired NCIS guy to do an independent forensic analysis of the scene.
And although the cop who falsely swore out the warrant in order to set up the murders (Gerald Goines) was Black, from the names and photos of the others charged in the conspiracy it appears that several are mestizos — and possibly one White guy?
This is a remarkable stat:
https://web.archive.org/web/20190223131317/https://www.khou.com/article/news/investigations/khou-11-investigates-issues-with-embattled-houston-police-officers-past-no-knock-warrants/285-13b94210-449c-4406-b843-f24a45c814ce
Goines swore in search warrant affidavits that “knocking and announcing would be dangerous, futile,” because he claimed a confidential informant had seen a gun inside. Those claims led judges to grant no-knock warrants, which accounted for 96 percent of all the search warrants he filed in the last seven years
But in every one of the more than 100 drug cases based off those warrants, there’s no record of Goines ever seizing a gun after executing a no-knock search warrant.
Seems like an honest guy…
Weird coincidence department: Goines apparently arrested none other than George Floyd [yeah that George Floyd] for selling $10 worth of crack back in 2004 — the resultant conviction will presumably be reversed, along with hundreds (thousands?) of others.
So Beverly Hills residents weren’t attacked by antifags? That’s not really surprising, since Beverly Hills is a heavily Iranian area, and antifa has a long history as a Persian supremacist organization.
Here’s an interesting article from the Iranian Daily Forward: The Original Antifa Were Persians In New Jersey
And here’s a good piece on what the authors refer to as “Persian antifa” in the current year.
See also this piece on antifa’s very Persian history, this handy list of the Top 9 Farsi Antifa Anthems, etc.
The answer is the mental model, mind set, orientation, or whatever one wants to call it, that Van Jones, and not just Van Jones, operates out of, or, to put it baldly, is entirely dependent on. Let's call that orientation The Myth Of Innocence. The idea that says We never do anything wrong. Things are done to us. Never mind that this kind of thinking makes change and growth an impossibility. What's worth focusing on here is the way it works. It works by connecting language, not to the real world, but to more language. Case in point: What is there in the real world that the word Society as used above directs us to locate and informs us about?
What is there in the real world that the words Society's message directs us to locate and informs us about?
What experiments is he talking about, or is he just talking (connecting language to yet more language)? How reliable, or verifiable, are those studies?
How do the ideas he refers to infiltrate Black minds?
And for a bonus question, What is there in the real world that the word mind directs us to locate and informs us about?
Lastly, if self-hatred is a real thing, then what how do we go about finding it? What are its attributes?
The point is, just when they are supposed to move out of language and into the real world, they offer us more language. Language, moreover, that rarely if ever makes contact with the real world. That's why so much of what they say, though constantly assesrted, is never proven, or hardly ever.
No surprise there, since so much of their language is never questioned or analyzed, but simply asserted as true (and because it is "true" it should be used to control your behavior). It would be embarrassing to question and analyze the language they use, since for the most part their language consists of a bunch of metaphysical pseudo-entities, vague abstractions, glittering generalities, absurd absolutes and worn-out verbal counters - all of which are supposed to stun us into a bashful silence.
In short, they operate out of a magical use of language. Virtually all of the ideas deposited from the bowels of Identity Politics and forced on those of us who, unlike them have no institutional power or cultural control, is characterized by magical thinking. They are no different from a sorceress who bestows an enemy's name on a wax image and then melts the wax image in a fire. Of course it's equally embarrassing how many people are so obliging and cooperative in such matters.
But the fact that not everyone is willing to go along to get along is why they have to aboslish freedom of speech. Exactly because it would be so easy to reduce their magical thinking to rubble faster than they can say Whiteness.Replies: @James Forrestal
Well put. It’s an elaborate system of semiotic manipulation. See also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reification_(fallacy)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signified_and_signifier
And of course, with modern visual media, they can create a much more immersive/ convincing version of hyperreality — your brain takes it in almost as if it were direct experience, with very little logical analysis, so much less pilpul is required.
Hence the reinvention/ reframing of blasphemy as so-called “hate speech,” and the heavy promotion of this meme. People who have fully internalized this recently-reified semantic construct in its desired context will reflexively “feel” that dissident narratives are somehow “taboo” and “evil.” [How they rationalize that emotional reaction is largely irrelevant to the desired results.]