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There has been much talk recently about the curse of white privilege, as manifested in, for example, the greater wealth of whites than blacks in the United States.

For example, in March 2019, Forbes reported that there were 4 black billionaires in the U.S.: American investor Robert F. Smith with $5 billion [#131 on the October 2019 Forbes 400], American businessman David Steward with $3.5 billion [#239], American media mogul Oprah Winfrey with a net worth of $2.7 billion [#319], … American sports executive Michael Jordan with $2.1 billion [not quite making the Forbes 400]. So, only 0.75% of the Forbes 400 are black.

There has, in contrast, been only a tiny amount of talk about Jewish privilege, as manifested in, for example, the greater wealth of Jews than white gentiles in the United States.

Yet, the two concepts — white privilege and Jewish privilege — would seem to be rather analogous: For example, if you are enraged about white privilege it would be logical to also be concerned about Jewish privilege. In contrast, if you find white privilege to be overblown, then Jewish privilege shouldn’t bother you much either.

Conversely, if you would prefer people not speak about the idea of Jewish privilege, it might make sense not to promote the idea of white privilege quite so assiduously.

We can take a crack at quantifying this by looking at the Forbes 400, a popular ranking of the richest people in America. Here’s the first 100 names listed on the last annual report from October 2019, along with my understanding of each billionaire’s ethnicity, based on Wikipedia, news reports, interviews and the like. Everybody with a “1” under “Jewish?” appears to be at least half Jewish by nature and nurture. The “%” column sums up the percentage of Jewish ethnicity weighting nature and nurture equally. (I’ll explain this below under my note for Larry Ellison of Oracle.)

2019 Forbes 100 Richest in US
RANK NAME NET WORTH AGE JEWISH? % SOURCE
35 33.25
1 Jeff Bezos $114 B 55 Amazon
2 Bill Gates $106 B 64 Microsoft
3 Warren Buffett $80.8 B 89 Berkshire Hathaway
4 Mark Zuckerberg $69.6 B 35 1 100% Facebook
5 Larry Ellison $65 B 75 1 75% software
6 Larry Page $55.5 B 46 1 50% Google
7 Sergey Brin $53.5 B 46 1 100% Google
8 Michael Bloomberg $53.4 B 77 1 100% Bloomberg LP
9 Steve Ballmer $51.7 B 63 1 50% Microsoft
10 Jim Walton $51.6 B 71 Walmart
11 Alice Walton $51.4 B 70 Walmart
12 Rob Walton $51.3 B 75 Walmart
13 Charles Koch $41 B 83 Koch Industries
13 Julia Koch & family $41 B 57 Koch Industries
15 MacKenzie Bezos $36.1 B 49 Amazon.com
16 Phil Knight & family $35.9 B 81 Nike
17 Sheldon Adelson $34.5 B 86 1 100% casinos
18 Michael Dell $32.3 B 54 1 100% Dell computers
19 Jacqueline Mars $29.7 B 80 candy, pet food
19 John Mars $29.7 B 84 candy, pet food
21 Jim Simons $21.6 B 81 1 100% hedge funds
22 Laurene Powell Jobs & family $21.3 B 55 Apple, Disney
23 Elon Musk $19.9 B 48 Tesla Motors, SpaceX
24 Rupert Murdoch & family $19.1 B 88 newspapers, TV network
25 Leonard Lauder $18.8 B 82 1 100% Estee Lauder
26 Ray Dalio $18.7 B 70 hedge funds
27 Len Blavatnik $18.3 B 62 1 100% diversified
28 Lukas Walton $18.1 B 33 Walmart
29 Stephen Schwarzman $17.7 B 72 1 100% investments
30 Carl Icahn $17.6 B 83 1 100% investments
31 Thomas Peterffy $17.5 B 75 discount brokerage
32 Donald Bren $17 B 87 1 50% real estate
33 Eric Schmidt $14.2 B 64 Google
34 Abigail Johnson $14 B 57 money management
35 Steve Cohen $13.6 B 63 1 100% hedge funds
36 Pierre Omidyar $13.1 B 52 eBay, PayPal
37 Donald Newhouse $12.8 B 90 1 100% media
38 Ken Griffin $12.7 B 51 hedge funds
39 David Tepper $12 B 62 1 100% hedge funds
40 Dustin Moskovitz $11.6 B 35 1 100% Facebook
41 Philip Anschutz $11.5 B 79 investments
41 Thomas Frist, Jr. & family $11.5 B 81 hospitals
41 John Menard, Jr. $11.5 B 79 home improvement stores
44 Charles Ergen $10.8 B 66 satellite TV
45 David Duffield $10.7 B 79 business software
46 Gordon Moore $10.3 B 90 Intel
47 Jan Koum $10.1 B 43 1 100% WhatsApp
48 Andrew Beal $9.8 B 66 banks, real estate
49 Carl Cook $9.7 B 57 medical devices
49 Stanley Kroenke $9.7 B 72 sports, real estate
51 Jim Kennedy $9.6 B 71 media, automotive
51 Blair Parry-Okeden $9.6 B 69 media, automotive
53 Hank & Doug Meijer $9.5 B supermarkets
54 Stewart and Lynda Resnick $9 B 1 100% agriculture, water
55 Harold Hamm & family $8.8 B 73 oil & gas
56 Jerry Jones $8.6 B 77 Dallas Cowboys
56 George Soros $8.6 B 89 1 100% hedge funds
58 Christy Walton $8.5 B 70 Walmart
59 Micky Arison $8.1 B 70 1 100% Carnival Cruises
60 David Geffen $7.9 B 76 1 100% movies, record labels
61 Shahid Khan $7.8 B 69 auto parts
61 Tom & Judy Love $7.8 B 82 retail & gas stations
63 Leon Black $7.7 B 68 1 100% private equity
63 Ronald Perelman $7.7 B 76 1 100% leveraged buyouts
63 Charles Schwab $7.7 B 82 discount brokerage
66 Stephen Ross $7.6 B 79 1 100% real estate
67 John Doerr $7.5 B 68 venture capital
67 Richard Kinder $7.5 B 75 pipelines
67 Ann Walton Kroenke $7.5 B 70 Walmart
70 David Green & family $7.4 B 77 retail
70 Marijke Mars $7.4 B 55 candy, pet food
70 Pamela Mars $7.4 B 59 candy, pet food
70 Valerie Mars $7.4 B 60 candy, pet food
70 Victoria Mars $7.4 B 62 candy, pet food
75 John Malone $7.3 B 78 cable television
75 David Shaw $7.3 B 68 1 100% hedge funds
77 James Goodnight $7.2 B 76 software
77 Herbert Kohler, Jr. & family $7.2 B 80 plumbing fixtures
79 Diane Hendricks $7 B 72 roofing
79 Edward Johnson, III. $7 B 89 money management
79 George Kaiser $7 B 77 1 100% oil & gas, banking
82 Robert Kraft $6.9 B 78 1 100% New England Patriots
82 Steven Rales $6.9 B 68 1 100% manufacturing
84 Eli Broad $6.8 B 86 1 100% investments
85 Jim Davis & family $6.7 B 76 New Balance
85 Nancy Walton Laurie $6.7 B 68 Walmart
85 J. Christopher Reyes $6.7 B 65 food distribution
85 Jude Reyes $6.7 B 64 food distribution
85 John A. Sobrato & family $6.7 B 80 real estate
85 Patrick Soon-Shiong $6.7 B 67 pharmaceuticals
91 Israel Englander $6.6 B 71 1 100% hedge funds
91 Reinhold Schmieding $6.6 B 64 medical devices
93 Marc Benioff $6.5 B 55 1 100% business software
93 Daniel Gilbert $6.5 B 57 1 100% Quicken Loans
95 James Chambers $6.4 B 62 media, automotive
95 Bernard Marcus $6.4 B 90 1 100% Home Depot
95 Robert Pera $6.4 B 41 wireless networking gear
95 Katharine Rayner $6.4 B 74 media, automotive
95 Margaretta Taylor $6.4 B 77 media, automotive
100 Dannine Avara $6.3 B 55 pipelines

A few notes:

These are not attempts to discern the personal religious views of these billionaires. Nor do they reflect the logic of Rabbinical Judaism under which the maternal line is decisive in who is Jewish or not.

Instead, I’m simply following the pattern of Wikipedia that typically states something like “[Mark] Zuckerberg was raised in a Reform Jewish household” or, for Michael Bloomberg, “His family is Jewish.”

Most of the time, this isn’t all that complicated.

Here are the 4 of the 35 in the top 100 who appear to be somewhat complicated in their Jewish ethnicity.

Larry Page of Google is the son of a Jewish mother. His father, Carl Victor Page, a computer science professor at Michigan State died in his late 50s from complications from the polio he contracted as a child. My impression is that Professor Page was of Old American stock, but I haven’t seen confirmation one way or another.

Larry Ellison, the founder of Oracle, is the biological son of an Italian-American military pilot and a Jewish mother. As an infant, he was adopted by his mother’s Jewish aunt and uncle. So, I think of the arithmetic of this as Ellison being half Jewish by nature and all Jewish by nurture. Because I assume that, generally speaking, nature and nurture about equally important, I put Ellison down as 75% Jewish. Admittedly, I’ve never heard of anybody else using this kind of arithmetic, but it strikes me as reasonable. Many people are adamant about accounting solely based on either nature or nurture. I can’t decide between their logic, so I just compromise.

Steve Ballmer, former CEO of Microsoft and current owner of the Los Angeles Clippers (it’s a long story), has a Swiss gentile immigrant father and a Jewish-American mother.

Donald Bren, Orange County land baron, appears to have a Jewish father and a gentile mother: “His father Milton was a naval officer, talent agent, and successful movie producer while his mother Marion was a prominent civic leader. His mother was of partial Irish descent while his father was of Jewish descent.”

It’s perhaps interesting that the partial names are concentrated near the top of the list. That could be a fluke, or it could be that there is more information published about the super-billionaires like Ellison. Perhaps somebody lower down on the list was also adopted but is just listed in Wikipedia as “raised in a Jewish family.”

Real estate developer and sports team owner Stan Kroenke is often described as Jewish, but he is described in Wikipedia as “He is of German descent and was raised Lutheran,” which seems plausible: he grew up in rural Missouri. Other than being good at making money, his life seems pretty thoroughly gentile: he owns huge ranches, he’s into hunting, and he married a Walmart heiress.

Note that I got tired of counting after 100 billionaires. Places 100 through 106 are all tied with $6.3 billion, but I only counted the first of the seven with $6.3 billion.

So, 35 of the first 100 on the 2019 Forbes list are, more or less, Jewish. If you sum up my weights, the first 100 make up 33.25% of the Forbes 100, or just about exactly 1/3. This appears to be about the same fraction as when I previously looked into the question in 2013.

Jewish organizations usually report that Jews make up 2.2% of the U.S. population, so being about 1/3rd of the Forbes 100 is impressive.

 
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  1. Only 35%? Are they slipping? Also, let’s do the major media companies now.

    Also, I’d swear that Bezos guy, no matter what anyone says. It’s a vibe.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Mr McKenna

    When I was growing up, the saying was "It takes two Jews to keep one Greek in line."

    , @Anon
    @Mr McKenna

    I got that vibe too, his last name came from his Cuban stepdad, his mother looks Jewish:
    https://imagesvc.meredithcorp.io/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.onecms.io%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F20%2F2019%2F01%2Fgettyimages-628643590-1.jpg

    However, he grew up in TX and doesn't seem to have much of any affinity to Israel. He also went to Princeton and studied CS and EE, two majors Jews tend to shy away from.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @syonredux, @syonredux

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Mr McKenna


    Also, I’d swear that Bezos guy, no matter what anyone says. It’s a vibe.
     
    Besos. According to the autocorrect on his own Kindle devices. Thus it must be!

    That aside, he's a certified squarehead with a beaner surname from his stepdad. His middle name is the same as Ron Reagan's and George P Bush's. Very creepy.

    (Kelly [RIP] wasn't a real Preston. She was born in the same city as Nicole Kidman and Barack Obama, though, and all of them were taken to the Southern Hemisphere for part of their childhood. All very creepy.)
    , @Anon
    @Mr McKenna

    He's a Jew in every other sense of the word.

  2. Also, FWIW, you could really affect the dynamic here by consolidating family fortunes under single listings, particularly the Mars and Walton families. I notice it’s done in some cases and not others, probably depending on whether the original patriarch is still alive.

  3. It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks. Then again, the half-Jews should have only half-weight, and many further down the list are half-Jews. If weighted in this manner down the entire table, the weighted Jewish proportion probably falls from 33.25% to 27-28%.

    At any rate, most of the younger ‘Jews’ on the list are half-Jews, and most of the younger Jews and half-Jews are married to non-Jews, so the bigger theme is ongoing Jewish dilution, more than anything.

    This is a good time to point out that many of the anti-Jewish memes in the comments on this website have many logical flaws :

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the ‘Jews are bad’ wing of White Nationalism fails.
    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.

    Sincerely,
    -Mordecai ‘Ira’ Rabinowitz

    • Agree: dreydl smasher
    • Replies: @Cido
    @Thomm


    At any rate, most of the younger ‘Jews’ on the list are half-Jews, and most of the younger Jews and half-Jews are married to non-Jews, so the bigger theme is ongoing Jewish dilution, more than anything.
     
    Jewish people never will become extinct. The ethnic-religious system of the Jews is resilient than a propet State. What will happen is that the most affluent strata of the Jews are marrying with gentiles. In the long term, only the orthodox and specially the ultra-ortodox will prevail.
    , @Emblematic
    @Thomm

    Comparing white nationalists complaining about Jews to blacks complaining about whites doesn't work.

    Blacks benefit from living in a white-majority society. Without whites, blacks would be worse off.

    Whites, on the other hand, do NOT benefit overall from having Jews in their society. (Yes, Jews have made positive contributions, but overall, the rise of Jewish power has not been good for whites. Jewish enthusiasm for massive non-white immigration being just one example).

    As for how Jews have such influence and success, white nationalists admit an IQ advantage, but also assume other factors, like higher ethnocentrism and a concentration in crucial industries like the media. Kevin MacDonald theorizes that the Jews long history as minorities in gentile societies led to the evolution of cultural habits that reinforce in-group preference.

    Israel does in fact have strong influence in the leading EU countries.

    Your Chinese comparison is not serious.

    , @Anonymous
    @Thomm

    Ira,

    You are quite right that Whites' complaints about Jews sound similar to Blacks' complaints about Whites. This is because they are both complaining about a Jewish-run society. However, Black people refuse to acknowledge that the White Jews who run the society are a separate group from the White Gentiles who go along with it and support it. This is understandable because to separate the two would be, for Blacks, to give a free pass to the White Gentiles who acquiesce and support destructive Jewish-led policies.

    The same Jews in Hollywood who humiliate Black men on screen, create the anti-White (anti-Gentile) narratives as well. The same people are causing the problems for both groups, that's why the complaints are so similar. The same AIPAC-bought and ADL-bullied politicians betray White Gentiles and Black constituents alike in order to prioritize Jewish interests. The same corporate boardrooms are hostile to Blacks and White Gentiles.

    The confusion arises because Ashkenazi Jews have White skin, and call themselves White most of the time, in order to coax the more numerous Gentiles into performing whatever behavior the Jewish leaders desire, often centering around self-flagellation and denouncing "whiteness" (denouncing themselves.)

    What Blacks call White Supremacy is actually Jewish Supremacy, with a few benefits grandfathered in for White Gentiles. Jews own the plantation, White Gentiles are the House slaves and Blacks and Brown people are the field slaves.

    Technically you are wrong about them being similar phenomena, they are the same phenomena.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Just to set things straight

    , @AnotherDad
    @Thomm


    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks.
     
    Thomm, i realize you're doing your usual butthurt trolling, but it's an interesting topic. I'll take a poke.

    Short answer: No. The gaps are not the same.

    Measures of income and wealth in America for any group are all taking place in the context of the peace, prosperity and opportunity created and maintained--at least until recently--by white Americans.

    Gaps between racial and ethnic groups involve both questions of quantity and quality.

    If you had an America populated solely by Jews (Ashkenazim) versus one populated solely by white gentiles, the Jewish nation would outperform the white one on measures of innovation--e.g. patents, Nobel Prizes, etc.--by something like 10-1. It would be more economically prosperous. Probably something like Switzerland vs. Portugal.

    But ... the white gentile America would not suck. In fact, it would be pretty darn awesome. Jews are smarter, but they have the middle-man personality package. They have not figured out any new/better social organization. In fact their core organization--tribalism and a tribal ("We're God's chosen people")--is decidedly more primitive compared to what whites--high affective empathy, high trust at scale--and arguably others have developed.

    (If you had an America full of white gentiles with a normal IQ distribution matching the Jewish mean--maybe 112ish--and SD, most people would find that white nation a more pleasant place. Whites throw a great nation.)

    In contrast, the all black America ... would suck. It would be Africa. The difference in quantity of talent and the difference in personality would result in fundamental difference in quality. It would simply be something quite different ... and fundamentally inferior from the perspective of civilization.

    ~

    Simplest summary:

    Jews are smarter, but not better people than whites.

    Whites are smarter and better people than blacks.

    Replies: @TelfoedJohn, @Corvinus, @Ian M.

    , @Thomas
    @Thomm


    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the ‘Jews are bad’ wing of White Nationalism fails.
     
    High-trust/high-performance culture meets low-trust/high-performance culture. Throw some of the genetics on COMT and MAOA alleles if you really want to go down a rabbit hole.

    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
     
    Relative cultural and racial distance, first-mover advantage, and the time it takes to develop a well-placed elite with ties to the mother country. China was a backwards Communist country that had destroyed its own culture and economy twice over after WWII until the 1970s. They certainly are trying to make up for lost time in the influence racket. Israel can't manipulate Russia because Russia is ruled by authoritarians of its own racial stock, rather than being a democracy whose population can be manipulated by media, culture and education. Europe's Jews were eliminated by WWII and its aftermath, and its multitude of countries, languages, and media environments are harder to collectively manipulate than a vast, monolingual country with a national financial and media market and a fixed two-party political system.

    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.
     
    Not even close to the same situation. Blacks are a minority that was forced to live as a subordinate racial caste amidst a majority (for now) that has measurable average intellectual and socioeconomic advantages over them. Their situation was going to be objectively lousy no matter what, without any conspiracy or hegemony needed to explain it.

    There are so very, very many examples of ruling dynasties made up of alien minorities throughout history that to treat the existence of one as dubious is either very ignorant or is in bad faith. Many of the dynasties that have ruled China over the past 1,800 years were dominated by non-Han Chinese. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_dynasty)

    In Western history, Britain was ruled by a succession of invaders (Celts, Romans, Angles, Saxons, Danes, and French). Classical Greece was dominated by a series of individual hegemonic minority powers in turn (Athens, Sparta, Thebes and Macedon). Rome dominated an empire in which the majority of those who lived in it were not citizens. The idea of majority democratic rule as the norm in the world, as opposed to some sort of minoritarian rule by an elite, is hardly even a century old.

    And even in modern times, if you want to find examples of dominant minority ethnic groups, you can look at, to cite a few examples, Overseas Chinese in Southeast Asia, Afrikaners in South Africa, Sunni Arabs in Ba'athist Iraq, Alawites in Syria, Tutsis in Rwanda, Indians in East Africa, or Lebanese in Latin America.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Anon, @Nico

    , @Negrolphin Pool
    @Thomm


    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks.
     
    From what I've seen, this is simply not true. The median black family has only a small fraction of the median white family's wealth. While Jews are hugely overrepresented at the pinnacle of wealth accumulation, which is probably a good proxy for the total wealth under Jewish control, this does not imply that average Jews are dramatically outperforming average white gentiles. I believe the median Jewish net worth is perhaps only twice that of the median gentile white.

    This is a huge qualitative difference because, at that point, we are counting who has more cars in the garage rather than if they even have a roof over their head.


    The primary factors behind Jewish success in wealth accumulation are ethnic nepotism, including financial networking, and elevated business ruthlessness. Look at the background of NY slumlords. Look at the ethnic backgrounds of those involved in the notorious LBO corporate raiding of the 1980s. Jews tend to reduce business to war: hard-boiled mercenaries against, rather than in service of, the market. Or look at the shocking disproportion of the "white" perps featured on "American Greed" who happen to have Jewish surnames or obvious Jewface. There is little doubt that, on average, Jews have a less developed sense of fair play and have no compunction about employing that strength to their game-theoretic advantage.

    On the other hand, gentile whites are often deeply concerned with fairness in their business dealings and merit in who they hire, with nepotism of any kind, particularly ethnic, actively shunned. Are black Americans more like Jews in this respect or more like gentiles? That blacks aren't able to replicate the success of Jews despite having the key ingredients for Jewish-style competitive dominance only serves to highlight their shortcomings, which are mostly accounted for by critically lower average intelligence — you don't need great brains to get rich, nor can you easily hold stacks while dragging your knuckles — lower future orientation and an absence of whatever vital spark drives the entrepreneur to surmount any hurdle.


    Then again, the half-Jews should have only half-weight, and many further down the list are half-Jews. If weighted in this manner down the entire table, the weighted Jewish proportion probably falls from 33.25% to 27-28%.
     
    It also makes sense to adjust for familial dynastic wealth because the fortune of, for instance, the Waltons all comes from the same source. Even financially adept scions like the Koch brothers were born on third base. Only counting as one entry all scions from the same family would push the number of arguable Jews in the top 20 richest Americans to either 50 or 55 percent, depending on if Rupert Murdoch is half Jewish. This ignores weighting, but weighting by genetics is unlikely to matter all that much because the determining factor will be the extent to which the individuals identify as Jews as well as the extent to which they are identified as Jews by their coethnics.

    Taking 50 percent, this does represent an incredible skew towards Jewish domination among the very richest. A cumulative probability calculator gives the probability that a group representing 2 percent of a society ends up as half of its richest members by luck alone as being statistically zero. The actual probability is, I believe, something like one in 10 trillion.


    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the ‘Jews are bad’ wing of White Nationalism fails.
    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.
     
    1)Ethnic nepotism characterized by exclusionary financial networking. Also, no one claims that Jews control everything. They effectively control key areas that they leverage to conduct ethnic warfare.

    2)Many gentiles cannot identify Jews even by their surnames, much less their phyzz. No one would mistake a Chinaman for a roundeye. 2b) New York City has, by far, the most Jews of any single city. This is the result of America's historic amenability to Jewish infiltration, far more than Russia or EU.

    3)See above. Enslavement many generations ago plays zero role in the continuing dysfunction of blacks. It holds zero weight. You can't get weaker than zero.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jack D, @Corvinus, @Steve Sailer

    , @Franz
    @Thomm


    If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the ‘Jews are bad’ wing of White Nationalism fails.
     
    I checked on all that some while back -- Your premise of that wing of White Nationalism is wrong.

    That wing is made up of many not-rich non-Jews who just want what Jews have: A country of their own.

    Not one WN I ever talked to wanted Israel destroyed. There may well be some, but I don't bother with nuts.

    At the same time nearly all Jews insist European nations must become diverse. That's the source of the friction.

    Who ever explained the "Jews are bad" wing of WN to you bungled the job. Happy to correct it.

    Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    , @Bill Jones
    @Thomm

    The characteristics, including honesty and openness, that make white society so successful, make it vulnerable to those who do not share those characteristics.
    That would be you.

    Replies: @dreydl smasher, @Lurker

    , @Ian Smith
    @Thomm

    Culture of Critique + naive Protestant philosemitism + the Holocaust narrative.

    , @Amerimutt Golems
    @Thomm

    The mechanics of organized Jewry has been explained here lots of times. You are either trolling or haven't been paying attention.

    Back to the substantive, one in three tribalists and affiliates listed above are into modern money changing as in hedge funds, investments and private equity where unsavory norms are rife - see Stewart's Den of Thieves.

    The next group clusters around technology which whose foundation was laid by goyim e.g Boolean algebra - see page 192 of Murray's Human Accomplishment and also Weaving the Web: The Original Design and Ultimate Destiny of the World Wide Web by Berners-Lee.

    Then you have the entertainment category where Jewish tribalism is rampant. To be fair they at least deserve some credit for opportunistic tendencies.

    P/S:
    Vaunted Ashkenazi 'genius' comes with a mental health premium e.g J. Robert Oppenheimer allegedly tried to poison one of his tutors at the University of Cambridge. No wonder President Truman called him an SOB.

    , @Lockean Proviso
    @Thomm


    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?

    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.
     

    2) In addition to points made by others about Chinese racial difference, that might not be a problem going forward thanks to "antiracism" (i.e. self-hatred/xenophilia agitprop for white gentiles), as well as Zionist alliance with the CCP greasing the skids for favorable media coverage and film/TV treatment of our new Eastasia pals.

    As for Israel's special edge in the scramble for American influence purchase, let's not forget the importance of the Christian Zionist view embodied in the Scofield School of prophecy of Dispensationalism, an aberrant yet popular heresy funded and encouraged by Jewish Wall Street Zionists led by Samuel Untermeyer. Christian Zionism has done a lot of heavy lifting for Israel in domestic American politics,
    https://historicist.info/untermeyer/index.htm

    3) Let's not also forget that whites were virtual slaves in Eastern Europe, and as serfs they were often overseen by Jewish middlemen between the gentile aristocracy and the gentile serfs.

    , @ben tillman
    @Thomm

    What a load of horseshit!

    It does not "appear" that Jews outperform gentile whites at all. Accumulating wealth is not what "performing" means.


    This is a good time to point out that many of the anti-Jewish memes in the comments on this website have many logical flaws :

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the ‘Jews are bad’ wing of White Nationalism fails.
     

    1. Being smart is not the only survival strategy of organisms. Intelligence is not the only characteristic that is relevant to survival. God, you're a moron. The Jewish strategy against us is primarily one of out-grouping us.

    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.
     
    3. Blacks don't say *anything* about gentile whites as such. Instead, the political posture of blacks vis-a-vis whites is much more similar to that of Jews vis-a-vis gentile whites. Both blacks and Jews insist that gentile whites may not be autonomous. Both blacks and Jews claim the right to forcibly capture gentile whites' positive externalities. Moreover, even if the accusations were similar (and they are not), the notion that is impossible for one accusation to be true and the other to be false is mind-bogglingly stupid.

    Reference to "the small number if Jews:" is profoundly ignorant or mendacious. The Jewish strategy is for every gentile white person to be outnumbered by a factor of millions to one, and the strategy is wildly successful.

    Replies: @Jack D, @botazefa, @AnotherDad

    , @stillCARealist
    @Thomm

    I do love Israel and want to love American Jews. Why are so many of them such commies?

    Replies: @Lot, @Abolish_public_education

    , @Anon
    @Thomm

    1) WN do not always deny Jewish intelligence. But psychological stability and aggression/competitiveness also boosts Jewish performance (a.k.a. general factor of personality). White gentiles are in a really bad place psychologically right now. Jewish success is one part IQ, one part personality. Networking probably also helps, and it probably also helps with the personality and psychological health.
    2) China probably can't have as much power in the US government because there are not as many Chinese who are so deeply ingrained in the top levels of society, and because there is a pretty good deal of anti-China sentiment. If there were, and if they had the will, they might be able to have influence.
    Israel also has influence because they have sympathy from whites due to the history of pogroms. So they are able to hack the guilt.
    Indians are able to exert lots of power in Britain because they are very ingrained. It is not just Jews who can do this.
    3) WN complaints of Jews are clearly different from black people's complaints about whites. The only similarity is that both complain, which probably provokes the same emotional reaction in you, which is why you think it is the same thing, when it is not.

    , @Anon
    @Thomm

    Question:

    Is your dot-head race so subjugated and utterly dysfunctional in-part because they lack the intellectual capacity to move-on from long-reputed propaganda mistakenly thought of as convincing?

    Does this OCD for weak behaviors carry over into everything?

    Side question: do you live in terror that one day White society will reject you and you will one day lose access to White women, effective Law, and honest people and instead have to live among only your own?

    That's how your posts read, and communicating that is their sole effect. It's a sad display.

    , @jbwilson24
    @Thomm

    "If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything?"

    Evidently someone hasn't studied network science. Preferential attachment.

    Close knit, tribal, xenophobic people with long standing control of banking, finance, international shipping and international communications. They keep out competitors from those core areas. Buying monopolies from governments, as in the customs and postal monopolies in Bohemia, serving as a trusted elite to the aristocracy, etc.

    Add to that relatively high IQ, emphasis on success, and (up until the alleged holocaust) less deaths in warfare, and you have a compelling explanation.

    The fact that you think it is all about IQ is a demonstration that you really don't understand how business works.

    Replies: @Hibernian

  4. Anonymous[576] • Disclaimer says:

    Funny how obscure the names are toward the lower ranks.

    Actually the bottom half is filled with mystery meat aka low profile people.

    The divorcees here are goyim right?

    Age distribution is interesting. Think the tech lord era is mellowing. Low hanging fruit picked.

    Weird how no Jewish mega fortunes are showing up as sibling inheritors… maybe that’s showing up lower in the 200s? Or some cultural thing where inheritance is done differently?

    Also 50% mix seems to be an outlier past not a future trend.

  5. All I can think about is how much wealthier Jeff Bezos would be if he didn’t divorce his wife and put her at 15th on the list. He already has a fairly sizable lead over Gates and with the money he didn’t lose in the divorce he would be in a league of his own.

    • Replies: @Goddard
    @Pop Warner

    Gates would be wealthier too, if he hadn't given so much away.

  6. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:

    Some of the fortunes here should be counted once. Like the Walmart and Mars fortunes that have been spread among several family members, Bezos’s ex-wife, etc.

    If you do, it removes at least 13 spots on this list and means that 35 of the top 87 US billionaires are Jewish. The percentage goes up from 35% to 40%.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Okay, but inheriting a fortune seems like a reasonable example of "privilege" ...

    Replies: @Lagertha

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Also Jim Kennedy, Blair Parry-Okeden, James Chambers, Katharine Rayner, and Margaretta Taylor are all heirs to the Cox Enterprises fortune. They should be counted as one fortune, removing 4 more spots from the list.

    That makes 35 of the top 83 US billionaires Jewish, and the percentage 42%.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Russ
    @Anonymous


    Real estate developer and sports team owner Stan Kroenke is often described as Jewish, but he is described in Wikipedia as “He is of German descent and was raised Lutheran,” which seems plausible: he grew up in rural Missouri. Other than being good at making money, his life seems pretty thoroughly gentile: he owns huge ranches, he’s into hunting, and he married a Walmart heiress.
     
    Kroenke is Sedalia MO-born and a Univ of Missouri product; I don't believe him to be in said club. His "goodness" at making money entailed wedding the WalMart heiress in college, building strip malls whose anchor tenants were WalMarts, and buying into and eventually winning control of an NFL team. Risk-minimized wealth accrual, to be sure. Wonder how the efforts to sell Personal Seat Licenses in a new stadium during a pandemic is proceeding?
  7. Hollywood directors/producers= 75 percent jewish

  8. @Anonymous
    Some of the fortunes here should be counted once. Like the Walmart and Mars fortunes that have been spread among several family members, Bezos's ex-wife, etc.

    If you do, it removes at least 13 spots on this list and means that 35 of the top 87 US billionaires are Jewish. The percentage goes up from 35% to 40%.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous, @Russ

    Okay, but inheriting a fortune seems like a reasonable example of “privilege” …

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Steve Sailer

    s0rry, dude. But, don't underestimate anyone.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Lagertha

  9. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Some of the fortunes here should be counted once. Like the Walmart and Mars fortunes that have been spread among several family members, Bezos's ex-wife, etc.

    If you do, it removes at least 13 spots on this list and means that 35 of the top 87 US billionaires are Jewish. The percentage goes up from 35% to 40%.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous, @Russ

    Also Jim Kennedy, Blair Parry-Okeden, James Chambers, Katharine Rayner, and Margaretta Taylor are all heirs to the Cox Enterprises fortune. They should be counted as one fortune, removing 4 more spots from the list.

    That makes 35 of the top 83 US billionaires Jewish, and the percentage 42%.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    But being descended from the Democratic candidate for President in 1920 and inheriting giant fortunes seems like a good example of Privilege.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  10. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Also Jim Kennedy, Blair Parry-Okeden, James Chambers, Katharine Rayner, and Margaretta Taylor are all heirs to the Cox Enterprises fortune. They should be counted as one fortune, removing 4 more spots from the list.

    That makes 35 of the top 83 US billionaires Jewish, and the percentage 42%.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    But being descended from the Democratic candidate for President in 1920 and inheriting giant fortunes seems like a good example of Privilege.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    But being descended from the Democratic candidate for President in 1920 and inheriting giant fortunes seems like a good example of Privilege.
     
    If one of their scions marries a child of Mark and Priscilla, would we talk of the "Cox-Zuckerberg fortune"?

    Replies: @FD

  11. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Okay, but inheriting a fortune seems like a reasonable example of "privilege" ...

    Replies: @Lagertha

    s0rry, dude. But, don’t underestimate anyone.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Lagertha

    banking families married banking families in Europe in the early 1900's. Yeah, truth. Jews and Gentiles married in those years from 1900-1930 because NOBODY HAD ANY MONEY. Marriages were about "survival," less than about social climbing. Companies/Industries made matches with their children. Children were "soft"pawns to make business deals (marriage) in the world, the continental world.

    No one could afford to "social climb" in the years of 1925-1935. This was the time of "decision." This was also the time of great wealth coming from oil.

    , @Lagertha
    @Lagertha

    not me, personally. I will never lie to you, and I never have. I only have stuff and islands, hahahahhahaha!

  12. Anonymous[576] • Disclaimer says:

    Zuck saved his empire by acquiring Instagram —- youth has abandoned FB in the past five years or so.

    Ballmer is the most over compensated exec in US biz history! Gates gave him massive package… but the Indian guy who took over and did no better than Ballmer didn’t get so lucky apparently. So Gates learned a lesson. New MS guy is actually kicking some ass btw.

    This list is a rough picture. Charlie Munger Buffett’s partner is mega rich but seeks a low profile.

    No doubt many billionaires are instructing their accountants to structure wealth in such a way as to “keep me off that damn list!”

    • Agree: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @Not Only Wrathful
    @Anonymous

    The "Indian guy" who took over from Ballmer is Satya Nadella. He is brilliant.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  13. Just from a casual look the Jews appear to be almost all self made.

    Same with the blacks.

    The remainder have a high proportion of inherited wealth if Jews are removed.

    Why is this true of Jews? (if it is really true and not my imagination)

    The reason why blacks might be this way seems more obvious.

    • Replies: @Portlander
    @Charlie2345

    You have it exactly backwards.

    The non-Jew fortunes overwhelmingly produced something that grew the wealth of the country.

    With a few exceptions owing to "accidental empires" in technology, Jews are overwhelmingly the result of insider connections amongst the Wall St cartel. Jews via ethnic nepotism use their insider connections skim a percentage from the wealth of the country.

  14. Nothing to see here, move along.

    Jewish organizations usually report that Jews make up 2.2% of the U.S. population,

    It’s more, especially if you count “half-Jews”, “1/4 Jews”, etc. I think “Jewish organizations” tend to undercount the number of living Jews and overcount the number of dead ones (in holocausts, pogroms, etc).

    • Agree: LondonBob
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Dumbo

    It's certainly an undercount, possibly a big one. A lot of Jews are paranoid about government knowing who they are and prefer not to identify themselves as Jews on censuses and suchlike. (The religious ones even have theological justifications for this I believe. Something about it being forbidden to count Jews.)

    Basically, nobody (not even Jewish organisations) really knows how many Jews there are in the U.S. or any other country where ethnicity is determined by self-identification.

  15. He was given up for adoption by his mother’s Jewish aunt and uncle before he turned one.

    This sentence is confusing. What Steve means is that his (Jewish) aunt and uncle adopted him,not that they gave him up for adoption.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @kaganovitch

    Thanks, I will fix it.

  16. Andy Beal is an impressive guy. I would have like to see him have a role in the Trump admin.

  17. Since they’re all bunched up near the top, then the wealth as a percentage is probably closer to 50%. Haven’t done the sums, just guessing.

    What if you did the same calculations for Anglos? I have a feeling that Anglos were overtaken by Jews in the 80s.

  18. Steve,
    Wikipedia seems to me to go out of its way to note their subjects’ Jewish religiosity. I’m surprised that Jews haven’t blown the whistle on this as inviting antisemitism, or do revel in its triumphalism?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Dan Hayes

    Jews are usually quite interested in who is Jewish.

    Replies: @syonredux, @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan, @Ron Mexico

    , @Not Only Wrathful
    @Dan Hayes

    Trying to find yourself in famous examples of your co-ethnics is a common habit.

    Jews may try to find their cool in recognising Drake as Jewish, for example.

    It is, unfortunately however, often counter-productive.

    One should be looking for what you repress in yourself in those other identities and groups which you hate.

    A Jew looking for their cool in Drake will just end up distancing themselves from it, as they will attribute it to Drake's blackness and not Jewishness.

    In this way, people end up alienated from themselves.

    Identity politics seems to be the most pernicious force in encouraging this self-alienation in history, especially when combined with a mass media culture.

    The results are to be seen everywhere around you, and in you.

    Replies: @HammerJack

  19. Out of respect for the Jewish People, Ballmer is not Jewish.

    • Agree: Not Only Wrathful
    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    @Clifford Brown

    Yeah, when I saw Steve Ballmer as Jewish I was a bit surprised. Still find it hard to believe.

    , @El Dato
    @Clifford Brown

    He culturally appropriates gentile behaviour during company events 🤣

  20. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,
    Wikipedia seems to me to go out of its way to note their subjects' Jewish religiosity. I'm surprised that Jews haven't blown the whistle on this as inviting antisemitism, or do revel in its triumphalism?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Not Only Wrathful

    Jews are usually quite interested in who is Jewish.

    • Thanks: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Steve Sailer

    "Jews are usually quite interested in who is Jewish."

    Indeed:

    "About the Jew Score
    We evaluate how Jewish a person is based on three factors. How Jewish they are internally, how Jewish they are externally and how much we want that person to be a Jew in the first place.
    In practice, the I Score tends to refer to birth history with some adjustments for how we imagine they see/saw themselves. The O Score is for how Jewish they look and act. The K Score stands for Kvell (pride) and is subject to the whims of the creators of this website. Each score ranges from 0 to 5.

    The Jew Score refers to our opinion only and is affected by, but not definitive, of one's actual Jewishness."


    http://www.jewornotjew.com/

    , @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    @Steve Sailer

    Understatement.

    , @Ron Mexico
    @Steve Sailer

    They keep track of who is part of the Tribe.

    Hanukkah Song, Adam Sandler

    "David Lee Roth lights the Menorah
    So does James Caan, Kirk Douglas and the late Dina Shore-ah
    Guess who eats together at the Carnegie Deli?
    Bowzer from Sha Na Na and Arthur Fonzerelli
    Paul Newman's half Jewish, Goldie Hawn's half too
    Put them together, what a fine looking Jew!
    You don't need "Deck the Halls" or "Jingle Bell Rock"
    Cause you can spin a dreidel with Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock (both Jewish!)
    Put on your yarmulke
    Its time for Hanukkah
    The owner of the Seattle Supersonic-ahs
    Celebrates Hanukkah
    O.J. Simpson: not a Jew
    But guess who is?: Hall-of-famer Rod Carew (he converted)
    We got Ann Landers and her sister Dear Abby
    Harrison Ford's a quarter Jewish - not too shabby!"

    Replies: @Roderick Spode, @danand

  21. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    But being descended from the Democratic candidate for President in 1920 and inheriting giant fortunes seems like a good example of Privilege.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    But being descended from the Democratic candidate for President in 1920 and inheriting giant fortunes seems like a good example of Privilege.

    If one of their scions marries a child of Mark and Priscilla, would we talk of the “Cox-Zuckerberg fortune”?

    • Replies: @FD
    @Reg Cæsar

    Mathematicians beat you to it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cox%E2%80%93Zucker_machine

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  22. Anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:

    And of the 35 on your list, close to a half (43% or 15/35) deal with moving money in one form or another. In contrast, of the remaining 65, only 15% (10/65) have their wealth derived primarily from moving money. That’s almost 3-fold disparity (2.8X).

    Once again, the stereotype proves true.

  23. Disparity: the phenomenon that has the ability to automatically proves that racism exists, except for when magically it doesn’t, and you’re a racist for noticing that it does exist.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @Wilkey

    That's pretty much the story here. Disparate Impact is Magical.

    It only matters when and where it can be used against wypipos.

    In the present set of examples, substitute 'goyim' for wypipos.

    , @Anon
    @Wilkey

    We should all probably start examining word definitions.

    Equality and justice are not the same thing. We are being mentally lazy and coasting on nice-sounding clichés like “liberté, égalité and fraternité”. Loosing the language war means becoming morally disarmed.

    Replies: @Old Palo Altan

  24. It’s perhaps interesting that the partial names are concentrated near the top of the list. That could be a fluke…

    …or an example of hybrid vigor. These guys inherited the most remunerative qualities from both sides.

    Kind of how that group of Irish-English-Welsh-Scottish lads from the hub city on the Mersey dominated the music world 50-odd years ago. If they were just English, they’d’ve been the Dave Clark Five of the North.

    • Thanks: Lot
    • Replies: @anonymous coward
    @Reg Cæsar

    The Beatles were an artificial homunculus, created from whole cloth by the usual suspects - a Jewish homosexual pedophile pervert.

    Talent or 'vigor' had nothing to do with it, a painted pig could have become a superstar in the 1960's; it was the short sweet spot of history when everybody had TV but nobody had immunity to its stupefying mind control.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

  25. Its much worse that it seem

    90% of them are half jews if you count the new generation that have internarried and are embracing entusiastically their jewish identity.

    There is no people with power that will fight for us abandon the idea

  26. @Wilkey
    Disparity: the phenomenon that has the ability to automatically proves that racism exists, except for when magically it doesn’t, and you’re a racist for noticing that it does exist.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Anon

    That’s pretty much the story here. Disparate Impact is Magical.

    It only matters when and where it can be used against wypipos.

    In the present set of examples, substitute ‘goyim’ for wypipos.

  27. @Thomm
    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks. Then again, the half-Jews should have only half-weight, and many further down the list are half-Jews. If weighted in this manner down the entire table, the weighted Jewish proportion probably falls from 33.25% to 27-28%.

    At any rate, most of the younger 'Jews' on the list are half-Jews, and most of the younger Jews and half-Jews are married to non-Jews, so the bigger theme is ongoing Jewish dilution, more than anything.

    This is a good time to point out that many of the anti-Jewish memes in the comments on this website have many logical flaws :

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the 'Jews are bad' wing of White Nationalism fails.
    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.


    Sincerely,
    -Mordecai 'Ira' Rabinowitz

    Replies: @Cido, @Emblematic, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Thomas, @Negrolphin Pool, @Franz, @Bill Jones, @Ian Smith, @Amerimutt Golems, @Lockean Proviso, @ben tillman, @stillCARealist, @Anon, @Anon, @jbwilson24

    At any rate, most of the younger ‘Jews’ on the list are half-Jews, and most of the younger Jews and half-Jews are married to non-Jews, so the bigger theme is ongoing Jewish dilution, more than anything.

    Jewish people never will become extinct. The ethnic-religious system of the Jews is resilient than a propet State. What will happen is that the most affluent strata of the Jews are marrying with gentiles. In the long term, only the orthodox and specially the ultra-ortodox will prevail.

  28. @Anonymous
    Zuck saved his empire by acquiring Instagram ---- youth has abandoned FB in the past five years or so.

    Ballmer is the most over compensated exec in US biz history! Gates gave him massive package... but the Indian guy who took over and did no better than Ballmer didn't get so lucky apparently. So Gates learned a lesson. New MS guy is actually kicking some ass btw.

    This list is a rough picture. Charlie Munger Buffett's partner is mega rich but seeks a low profile.

    No doubt many billionaires are instructing their accountants to structure wealth in such a way as to "keep me off that damn list!"

    Replies: @Not Only Wrathful

    The “Indian guy” who took over from Ballmer is Satya Nadella. He is brilliant.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Not Only Wrathful

    lel. Hes a complete non entitiy.

  29. @Steve Sailer
    @Dan Hayes

    Jews are usually quite interested in who is Jewish.

    Replies: @syonredux, @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan, @Ron Mexico

    “Jews are usually quite interested in who is Jewish.”

    Indeed:

    “About the Jew Score
    We evaluate how Jewish a person is based on three factors. How Jewish they are internally, how Jewish they are externally and how much we want that person to be a Jew in the first place.
    In practice, the I Score tends to refer to birth history with some adjustments for how we imagine they see/saw themselves. The O Score is for how Jewish they look and act. The K Score stands for Kvell (pride) and is subject to the whims of the creators of this website. Each score ranges from 0 to 5.

    The Jew Score refers to our opinion only and is affected by, but not definitive, of one’s actual Jewishness.”

    http://www.jewornotjew.com/

  30. @Thomm
    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks. Then again, the half-Jews should have only half-weight, and many further down the list are half-Jews. If weighted in this manner down the entire table, the weighted Jewish proportion probably falls from 33.25% to 27-28%.

    At any rate, most of the younger 'Jews' on the list are half-Jews, and most of the younger Jews and half-Jews are married to non-Jews, so the bigger theme is ongoing Jewish dilution, more than anything.

    This is a good time to point out that many of the anti-Jewish memes in the comments on this website have many logical flaws :

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the 'Jews are bad' wing of White Nationalism fails.
    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.


    Sincerely,
    -Mordecai 'Ira' Rabinowitz

    Replies: @Cido, @Emblematic, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Thomas, @Negrolphin Pool, @Franz, @Bill Jones, @Ian Smith, @Amerimutt Golems, @Lockean Proviso, @ben tillman, @stillCARealist, @Anon, @Anon, @jbwilson24

    Comparing white nationalists complaining about Jews to blacks complaining about whites doesn’t work.

    Blacks benefit from living in a white-majority society. Without whites, blacks would be worse off.

    Whites, on the other hand, do NOT benefit overall from having Jews in their society. (Yes, Jews have made positive contributions, but overall, the rise of Jewish power has not been good for whites. Jewish enthusiasm for massive non-white immigration being just one example).

    As for how Jews have such influence and success, white nationalists admit an IQ advantage, but also assume other factors, like higher ethnocentrism and a concentration in crucial industries like the media. Kevin MacDonald theorizes that the Jews long history as minorities in gentile societies led to the evolution of cultural habits that reinforce in-group preference.

    Israel does in fact have strong influence in the leading EU countries.

    Your Chinese comparison is not serious.

    • Agree: mark green
  31. @Lagertha
    @Steve Sailer

    s0rry, dude. But, don't underestimate anyone.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Lagertha

    banking families married banking families in Europe in the early 1900’s. Yeah, truth. Jews and Gentiles married in those years from 1900-1930 because NOBODY HAD ANY MONEY. Marriages were about “survival,” less than about social climbing. Companies/Industries made matches with their children. Children were “soft”pawns to make business deals (marriage) in the world, the continental world.

    No one could afford to “social climb” in the years of 1925-1935. This was the time of “decision.” This was also the time of great wealth coming from oil.

  32. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,
    Wikipedia seems to me to go out of its way to note their subjects' Jewish religiosity. I'm surprised that Jews haven't blown the whistle on this as inviting antisemitism, or do revel in its triumphalism?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Not Only Wrathful

    Trying to find yourself in famous examples of your co-ethnics is a common habit.

    Jews may try to find their cool in recognising Drake as Jewish, for example.

    It is, unfortunately however, often counter-productive.

    One should be looking for what you repress in yourself in those other identities and groups which you hate.

    A Jew looking for their cool in Drake will just end up distancing themselves from it, as they will attribute it to Drake’s blackness and not Jewishness.

    In this way, people end up alienated from themselves.

    Identity politics seems to be the most pernicious force in encouraging this self-alienation in history, especially when combined with a mass media culture.

    The results are to be seen everywhere around you, and in you.

    • Thanks: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Not Only Wrathful


    Trying to find yourself in famous examples of your co-ethnics is a common habit.
     
    Neither I nor anyone I have ever known has done this, with the conspicuous exception of the many Jewish people I've known.

    Replies: @Not Only Wrathful, @Reg Cæsar

  33. anonymous[409] • Disclaimer says:

    The US is 59% white. The top 100 billionaires are 97% white. A Persian, Pakistani, and Chinese. It helps keep perspective. Whites are overwhelmingly dominant in America and non-whites despite growing numbers are not taking over America any time soon. The current mania is driven by white liberals who have the luxury from a position of dominance to launch a religious awakening elevating non-whites for spiritual and fun reasons. They are in a position to flip the switch when they eventually become exhausted from the awakening.

    • Replies: @anonymous coward
    @anonymous


    ...for spiritual and fun reasons
     
    Really? Look back at history - America was always an investment venture, not a nation. The returns on investment always were always driven by cheap labor, ethnic cleansing and population replacement.

    You think that somehow after 500 years this will change? Just because those ethnically cleansed are now 'white'?

    What can I say, only 'LOL'.
    , @Anonymous
    @anonymous


    The US is 59% white. The top 100 billionaires are 97% white. A Persian, Pakistani, and Chinese. It helps keep perspective.
     
    Interestingly, if you control for single fortunes that have been divided among multiple heirs, family members, ex-wives, etc., and subtract the 3 non-whites, you get 35 of the top 80 white US billionaires being Jewish.

    That makes the Jewish percentage 43.75%, and the white gentile percentage 56.25%.

    With Jewish Americans estimated to be about 2.2% of the population, and the US about 59% white, that means the white gentile percentage of 56.25% of top billionaires is almost exactly representative, while Jews are overrepresented by a factor of around 20.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

  34. All of the top 50 I know to be open Trump supporters are Jewish: Schwarzman, Adelson, Koum, Ichan.

    Am I missing anyone? Maybe the Waltons?

    Ray Dalio was mildly pro-Trump the first year, then “soured” on him according to one article.

    • Replies: @Not Only Wrathful
    @Lot


    Ray Dalio was mildly pro-Trump the first year, then “soured” on him according to one article.
     
    Ray Dalio is very interesting. He would enjoy reading iSteve, which he might.
    , @Anonymous
    @Lot


    All of the top 50 I know to be open Trump supporters are Jewish: Schwarzman, Adelson, Koum, Ichan.

     

    Interesting. Even expanding to the top 100 the notable Trump supporters are Jewish (Bob Kraft, Bernie Marcus).

    Then expanding to the top 200 billionaires you have Trump-supporting billionaire Russ Weiner (son of Michael Savage):


    https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/5e68ebb8e1e61700080e79cd/960x0.jpg

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinstoller/2020/03/11/rockstar-energy-drink-founder-cashing-out-for-nearly-4-billion-says-the-american-dream-is-alive-and-well/

     

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Redneck farmer, @LondonBob

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Lot


    All of the top 50 I know to be open Trump supporters are Jewish: Schwarzman, Adelson, Koum, Ichan.
     
    Adelson isn't a Trump supporter. Trump is an Adelson supporter.

    Replies: @SFG

  35. Here’s a math “word problem” for anyone interested: Assume a mean IQ for Jews of around 112-115, a mean IQ for whites of around 100, and a SD for both of around 15.

    Under those assumptions, what IQ score would consist of 35% Jews and 65% whites? Based on the circumstantial evidence, I’m guessing that would also be the average IQ of American billionaires. (With possible adjustment for those who are self-made and those who inherited).

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Hypnotoad666

    I have an IQ of 169...my brother at 203...but we were young then, when tested. These days/decades long ago, we are degraded from our youth and stuff, hahaaaa! Both of our worst fears is: Bolshevism/Marxism/SV surveillance state & and the implementation of "useless eaters," a la' Yuval H.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @anon
    @Hypnotoad666

    And yet...

    Israel is a developing, borderline-3rd world country that relies on American foreign aid, military intervention and tech transfers to Haifa.

    Meanwhile, NE Asia, from a human capital POV, started well behind refugee WW2 Jewery, and has blown past Israel, which has a giant advantage because of Jewish-dominated capital markets.

    Let me know when that Israeli smartphone comes out.

    Replies: @Not Only Wrathful

    , @Lot
    @Hypnotoad666

    Griffe du Lion has long articles about these types of topics you may be interested in.

    Quick answer with some simple assumptions: about 155. If you worked it out more carefully it would be within 2 points of this.

    “ the average IQ of American billionaires”

    Maybe the self made ones.

    Replies: @Lot

    , @neutral
    @Hypnotoad666

    Instead of IQ averages, check out the prevalence of sociopathy and psychopathy amongst the various groups. Its explains that list because for the modern day CEO the main requirements are neither hard work or intelligence, but rather the level of cut throat politics they are willing to resort to.

    , @anon
    @Hypnotoad666

    I get 144. It's easy to play around with using the NORM.DIST function in Excel.

    In reality, I believe the Ashkenazi standard deviation is usually said to be around 12-13. But working the opposite direction, IQs this far out on the tail deviate from normal distribution (there are more high IQ than expected). So maybe those imprecise assumptions sorta offset.

    If I were setting betting lines, I'd peg it somewhere in 130s. The non-techies simply aren't that smart.

  36. @Lagertha
    @Steve Sailer

    s0rry, dude. But, don't underestimate anyone.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Lagertha

    not me, personally. I will never lie to you, and I never have. I only have stuff and islands, hahahahhahaha!

  37. @Hypnotoad666
    Here's a math "word problem" for anyone interested: Assume a mean IQ for Jews of around 112-115, a mean IQ for whites of around 100, and a SD for both of around 15.

    Under those assumptions, what IQ score would consist of 35% Jews and 65% whites? Based on the circumstantial evidence, I'm guessing that would also be the average IQ of American billionaires. (With possible adjustment for those who are self-made and those who inherited).

    Replies: @Lagertha, @anon, @Lot, @neutral, @anon

    I have an IQ of 169…my brother at 203…but we were young then, when tested. These days/decades long ago, we are degraded from our youth and stuff, hahaaaa! Both of our worst fears is: Bolshevism/Marxism/SV surveillance state & and the implementation of “useless eaters,” a la’ Yuval H.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Lagertha

    Respectfully, an IQ of 203 is impossible. The frequency distribution of IQ 203 (over 6 SDs from the mean) is 1 in 11 billion and there are only 8 billion people on earth. The scoring on the most common IQ test (Weschler) tops out at 160. I don't know what kind of test they gave you but it wasn't a real IQ test.

    Replies: @Anonymouse, @The Alarmist, @Lagertha

  38. Is it Jewish Privilege to commit fraud for 30 years then retire with accolades from law enforcement?

    https://nypost.com/2020/07/14/rabbi-hurt-in-california-synagogue-shooting-admits-fraud/

  39. If White privilege was real most people would be afraid to talk about it and it would never be mentioned in the mainstream media.

    • Agree: HammerJack, botazefa
    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Gordo

    Exactly. If you have real privilege, you need to control the narrative and turn it into a taboo subject, otherwise you won't be privileged for long.

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Gordo

    Classic Moldbug! (Witch trials are the surest proof against the existence of witches.)

  40. anon[266] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hypnotoad666
    Here's a math "word problem" for anyone interested: Assume a mean IQ for Jews of around 112-115, a mean IQ for whites of around 100, and a SD for both of around 15.

    Under those assumptions, what IQ score would consist of 35% Jews and 65% whites? Based on the circumstantial evidence, I'm guessing that would also be the average IQ of American billionaires. (With possible adjustment for those who are self-made and those who inherited).

    Replies: @Lagertha, @anon, @Lot, @neutral, @anon

    And yet…

    Israel is a developing, borderline-3rd world country that relies on American foreign aid, military intervention and tech transfers to Haifa.

    Meanwhile, NE Asia, from a human capital POV, started well behind refugee WW2 Jewery, and has blown past Israel, which has a giant advantage because of Jewish-dominated capital markets.

    Let me know when that Israeli smartphone comes out.

    • Replies: @Not Only Wrathful
    @anon

    I am sure Jews loom big in your imagination, but, with 200,000 employees, Huawei would be the fourth most populous Israeli city by itself.

  41. anonymous[195] • Disclaimer says:

    Nothing to see here bud. Move along. That list is made up of hard work, grit and determination, and all recent; nothing more. True white privilege is old, rank and stubborn, like the athlete’s foot you can’t shake with sixteen courses of antibiotics in one season. True white privilege can’t be measured or defined. It just is, because we say so. It’s you, dear reader, and it always will be, as long as we get the say-so.

  42. @kaganovitch
    He was given up for adoption by his mother’s Jewish aunt and uncle before he turned one.

    This sentence is confusing. What Steve means is that his (Jewish) aunt and uncle adopted him,not that they gave him up for adoption.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Thanks, I will fix it.

  43. Anonymous[206] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm
    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks. Then again, the half-Jews should have only half-weight, and many further down the list are half-Jews. If weighted in this manner down the entire table, the weighted Jewish proportion probably falls from 33.25% to 27-28%.

    At any rate, most of the younger 'Jews' on the list are half-Jews, and most of the younger Jews and half-Jews are married to non-Jews, so the bigger theme is ongoing Jewish dilution, more than anything.

    This is a good time to point out that many of the anti-Jewish memes in the comments on this website have many logical flaws :

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the 'Jews are bad' wing of White Nationalism fails.
    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.


    Sincerely,
    -Mordecai 'Ira' Rabinowitz

    Replies: @Cido, @Emblematic, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Thomas, @Negrolphin Pool, @Franz, @Bill Jones, @Ian Smith, @Amerimutt Golems, @Lockean Proviso, @ben tillman, @stillCARealist, @Anon, @Anon, @jbwilson24

    Ira,

    You are quite right that Whites’ complaints about Jews sound similar to Blacks’ complaints about Whites. This is because they are both complaining about a Jewish-run society. However, Black people refuse to acknowledge that the White Jews who run the society are a separate group from the White Gentiles who go along with it and support it. This is understandable because to separate the two would be, for Blacks, to give a free pass to the White Gentiles who acquiesce and support destructive Jewish-led policies.

    The same Jews in Hollywood who humiliate Black men on screen, create the anti-White (anti-Gentile) narratives as well. The same people are causing the problems for both groups, that’s why the complaints are so similar. The same AIPAC-bought and ADL-bullied politicians betray White Gentiles and Black constituents alike in order to prioritize Jewish interests. The same corporate boardrooms are hostile to Blacks and White Gentiles.

    The confusion arises because Ashkenazi Jews have White skin, and call themselves White most of the time, in order to coax the more numerous Gentiles into performing whatever behavior the Jewish leaders desire, often centering around self-flagellation and denouncing “whiteness” (denouncing themselves.)

    What Blacks call White Supremacy is actually Jewish Supremacy, with a few benefits grandfathered in for White Gentiles. Jews own the plantation, White Gentiles are the House slaves and Blacks and Brown people are the field slaves.

    Technically you are wrong about them being similar phenomena, they are the same phenomena.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Anonymous


    What Blacks call White Supremacy is actually Jewish Supremacy, with a few benefits grandfathered in for White Gentiles. Jews own the plantation, White Gentiles are the House slaves and Blacks and Brown people are the field slaves.
     
    Some of what's happening is that the owners are importing tons more slaves, which increases strife generally, especially with asians pushing whites out of the house and into the fields. Where they really don't want to go.
    , @Just to set things straight
    @Anonymous

    Ashkenazi Jews are so not white that the Nazis didn't need to have them wear some marker, e.g. the star of David, to distinguish them from the general population and they sure didn't need to dig up family records to make sure every Jew was accounted for. They look so not white that it would be impossible for a Jew to pose as a German soldier in the Berliner Tageblatt. Literally impossible.

    Replies: @VinnyVette

  44. @Thomm
    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks. Then again, the half-Jews should have only half-weight, and many further down the list are half-Jews. If weighted in this manner down the entire table, the weighted Jewish proportion probably falls from 33.25% to 27-28%.

    At any rate, most of the younger 'Jews' on the list are half-Jews, and most of the younger Jews and half-Jews are married to non-Jews, so the bigger theme is ongoing Jewish dilution, more than anything.

    This is a good time to point out that many of the anti-Jewish memes in the comments on this website have many logical flaws :

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the 'Jews are bad' wing of White Nationalism fails.
    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.


    Sincerely,
    -Mordecai 'Ira' Rabinowitz

    Replies: @Cido, @Emblematic, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Thomas, @Negrolphin Pool, @Franz, @Bill Jones, @Ian Smith, @Amerimutt Golems, @Lockean Proviso, @ben tillman, @stillCARealist, @Anon, @Anon, @jbwilson24

    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks.

    Thomm, i realize you’re doing your usual butthurt trolling, but it’s an interesting topic. I’ll take a poke.

    Short answer: No. The gaps are not the same.

    Measures of income and wealth in America for any group are all taking place in the context of the peace, prosperity and opportunity created and maintained–at least until recently–by white Americans.

    Gaps between racial and ethnic groups involve both questions of quantity and quality.

    If you had an America populated solely by Jews (Ashkenazim) versus one populated solely by white gentiles, the Jewish nation would outperform the white one on measures of innovation–e.g. patents, Nobel Prizes, etc.–by something like 10-1. It would be more economically prosperous. Probably something like Switzerland vs. Portugal.

    But … the white gentile America would not suck. In fact, it would be pretty darn awesome. Jews are smarter, but they have the middle-man personality package. They have not figured out any new/better social organization. In fact their core organization–tribalism and a tribal (“We’re God’s chosen people”)–is decidedly more primitive compared to what whites–high affective empathy, high trust at scale–and arguably others have developed.

    (If you had an America full of white gentiles with a normal IQ distribution matching the Jewish mean–maybe 112ish–and SD, most people would find that white nation a more pleasant place. Whites throw a great nation.)

    In contrast, the all black America … would suck. It would be Africa. The difference in quantity of talent and the difference in personality would result in fundamental difference in quality. It would simply be something quite different … and fundamentally inferior from the perspective of civilization.

    ~

    Simplest summary:

    Jews are smarter, but not better people than whites.

    Whites are smarter and better people than blacks.

    • Thanks: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @TelfoedJohn
    @AnotherDad

    Pre-70s gentile whites got us to the moon. Post-70s jews have got us diversity quotas. With perhaps more intellectual effort from the jews.

    , @Corvinus
    @AnotherDad

    "Measures of income and wealth in America for any group are all taking place in the context of the peace, prosperity and opportunity created and maintained–at least until recently–by white Americans."

    You mean by Americans regardless of race and ethnicity.

    "Jews are smarter, but not better people than whites. Whites are smarter and better people than blacks."

    Which is an opinion, not fact.

    , @Ian M.
    @AnotherDad


    Whites are smarter and better people than blacks.
     
    Is the second part true? Yes, blacks' dysfunction manifests itself in more obvious ways, especially to those accustomed to seeing things through a materialist lens: bastardy, murder, etc. But whites invented liberalism and are its most vocal proponents, an ideology that has destroyed millions of souls.

    And I'm not talking about mass murder.
  45. Amazing how many of these folks derive their well from, I guess, the Mars bar. Are they an exception to the shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in 3 generations rule?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @M_Young

    A decade or so ago there were still four people named Hearst on the Forbes 400.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @M_Young

    Not just Mars bars, which you hardly ever see anyway. We're talking M&Ms, Milky Ways, Snickers, and Skittles ... Know anyone who has never eaten any of those? Actually I only know a handful of people who have never eaten ALL of those.

    It's shirtless to can't-find-a big-enough-shirt in 3 generations, at least for the customers.

    , @Corn
    @M_Young

    If the Mars family is indeed an exception to that rule, it’s because they haven’t let the younger generation of Marses spoil themselves.

    I’ve read one or two articles over the years about the Marses and they have an incredible, workaholic work ethic. Even if you bear the surname Mars you are expected to punch a time clock five or six days a week and work ten, twelve, fourteen hours a day at the family business.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

  46. @Thomm
    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks. Then again, the half-Jews should have only half-weight, and many further down the list are half-Jews. If weighted in this manner down the entire table, the weighted Jewish proportion probably falls from 33.25% to 27-28%.

    At any rate, most of the younger 'Jews' on the list are half-Jews, and most of the younger Jews and half-Jews are married to non-Jews, so the bigger theme is ongoing Jewish dilution, more than anything.

    This is a good time to point out that many of the anti-Jewish memes in the comments on this website have many logical flaws :

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the 'Jews are bad' wing of White Nationalism fails.
    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.


    Sincerely,
    -Mordecai 'Ira' Rabinowitz

    Replies: @Cido, @Emblematic, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Thomas, @Negrolphin Pool, @Franz, @Bill Jones, @Ian Smith, @Amerimutt Golems, @Lockean Proviso, @ben tillman, @stillCARealist, @Anon, @Anon, @jbwilson24

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the ‘Jews are bad’ wing of White Nationalism fails.

    High-trust/high-performance culture meets low-trust/high-performance culture. Throw some of the genetics on COMT and MAOA alleles if you really want to go down a rabbit hole.

    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?

    Relative cultural and racial distance, first-mover advantage, and the time it takes to develop a well-placed elite with ties to the mother country. China was a backwards Communist country that had destroyed its own culture and economy twice over after WWII until the 1970s. They certainly are trying to make up for lost time in the influence racket. Israel can’t manipulate Russia because Russia is ruled by authoritarians of its own racial stock, rather than being a democracy whose population can be manipulated by media, culture and education. Europe’s Jews were eliminated by WWII and its aftermath, and its multitude of countries, languages, and media environments are harder to collectively manipulate than a vast, monolingual country with a national financial and media market and a fixed two-party political system.

    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.

    Not even close to the same situation. Blacks are a minority that was forced to live as a subordinate racial caste amidst a majority (for now) that has measurable average intellectual and socioeconomic advantages over them. Their situation was going to be objectively lousy no matter what, without any conspiracy or hegemony needed to explain it.

    There are so very, very many examples of ruling dynasties made up of alien minorities throughout history that to treat the existence of one as dubious is either very ignorant or is in bad faith. Many of the dynasties that have ruled China over the past 1,800 years were dominated by non-Han Chinese. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_dynasty)

    In Western history, Britain was ruled by a succession of invaders (Celts, Romans, Angles, Saxons, Danes, and French). Classical Greece was dominated by a series of individual hegemonic minority powers in turn (Athens, Sparta, Thebes and Macedon). Rome dominated an empire in which the majority of those who lived in it were not citizens. The idea of majority democratic rule as the norm in the world, as opposed to some sort of minoritarian rule by an elite, is hardly even a century old.

    And even in modern times, if you want to find examples of dominant minority ethnic groups, you can look at, to cite a few examples, Overseas Chinese in Southeast Asia, Afrikaners in South Africa, Sunni Arabs in Ba’athist Iraq, Alawites in Syria, Tutsis in Rwanda, Indians in East Africa, or Lebanese in Latin America.

    • Thanks: AnotherDad
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Thomas

    Thomas, thanks for wading through Thomm's brief.

    There's always a bunch of stuff in critiques like this where you just think "intelligent people understand this stuff ... do i really have to write a bunch of paragraphs to make clear the obvious counter points".

    You did a first rate job with it. Thanks.

    , @Anon
    @Thomas

    A waste of time.

    "Thomm" (he may as well have named himself Harry Potter, for maximum philo-English kitsch signalling) will be back here in short order, with the same copypasta that he's been posting since he's been here and that has been dismantled in the same manner dozens of times.

    Creativity and general intellectual sparkiness aren't what his race is known for, and so he can't help himself.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    , @Nico
    @Thomas


    Europe’s Jews were eliminated by WWII and its aftermath, and its multitude of countries, languages, and media environments are harder to collectively manipulate than a vast, monolingual country with a national financial and media market and a fixed two-party political system.
     
    Israel nevertheless has considerable influence in the E.U., the most obvious being of course indirect, through NATO which is basically the United States Overseas.

    However, there is also a not insignificant number of chattery Jews on TV and in the academy in France in particular, probably owing to the Algerian Jews’ unwillingness to pass from French rule to Islamic rule.

    Perhaps the most noxious channel of influence however comes via chiefly center-right political formatons like Sarkozy’s UMP which through a combination of bizarre internal “inspired” figure and outside bankrolling encourages activists to ape American conservatism including its Chamber-of-Commerce-serving delusions of classical liberalism as conservatism or the delusion that Israel is a liberal democracy or that her interests always converge with those of the West.
  47. It’s because their families have this dedication to education.

    I’ll give you an example. Many of us have over these nearly 20 years of security restricted air travel, have thought, there must be a better way. There must be something that can be done to move people efficiently through this security maze.

    Then came a Jewish woman, name of Caryn Seidman Becker. She created a company called Clear, that will move you lickety-split through the TSA cluster-f**k.

    What made this profitable breakthrough possible for Caryn Seidman Becker, was her family’s tradition of hard work. Honestly, there were millions of non-Jews trying to crack this TSA nut. All failed.

    • LOL: HammerJack
    • Replies: @peterike
    @Just another serf


    Then came a Jewish woman, name of Caryn Seidman Becker. She created a company called Clear, that will move you lickety-split through the TSA cluster-f**k.

     

    Ummmm, not exactly.

    Clear isn't exactly new. The New York–based company has been around for several years, but was bought out of bankruptcy—and brought back to relevance—in 2010 by Caryn Seidman-Becker, Clear's now-chairman and CEO. Thanks to the addition of major hubs around the U.S., from Miami to Seattle, and the backing of Delta—which bought a five percent stake in the company in April 2016—the service has reached more than 1.5 million members, and now has a presence in 35 sports stadiums and airports across the country.
     
    She didn't invent anything but rather used her typical Jewish powers -- financialization, deal-making, and marketing -- to turn Clear into a success.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Just another serf


    She created a company called Clear, that will move you lickety-split through the TSA cluster-f**k.
     
    So did a sclerotic Congress, in 1970. It's called Amtrak.
  48. Doesn’t seem like the Jewish fields of business are as beneficial to the country as the others. But maybe not. Obviously, a few are.

    The media always used to hate oil & gas industry so much … I guess they still do. Could that be because it was a strong base of power for White Gentiles and not so much for Jews?

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @RichardTaylor


    Doesn’t seem like the Jewish fields of business are as beneficial to the country as the others. But maybe not. Obviously, a few are.

    The media always used to hate oil & gas industry so much … I guess they still do. Could that be because it was a strong base of power for White Gentiles and not so much for Jews?
     
    Correct.

    Jews are wealthy--historically and in the US--by doing middle manning on top of the prosperity created in white nations.

    Beyond FIRE, most of these Jewish fortunes are just Jews being better businessmen--clawing their way to the top-- in a big rich white nation. You #1 in America, you're rich. Several of them in b.s. business--gambling, movies, sports--the circuses part of "bread and circuses" or traditional Jewish scams--liquor. There isn't anything interesting, innovative or productive in any of this, it's just the age old "how do we get money from the gentiles".

    Even in a Jewish standard--retail trade--the actual innovators who've made productive enhancements are two gentiles--Sam Walton and Jeff Bezos.

    Tech's a bit different. Jewish IQ maps a bit more directly onto technical success, which then dovetails with Jewish cultural business acumen/networking. It's "innovation" of a sort, but mostly just hustling a little faster than the competition--.e.g. Facebook, Google--without much actual value. You look at actual innovation--made things better--not so impressive.

    If you look through the list, you can see that if none of those Jewish businesses/fortunes existed ... you would not lose very much. Only a few look to be anything productive. Mostly they've done well but just collecting a rent on America. The gentile businesses/fortunes there are a much greater number that are innovative and material productive--they've actually made Americans lives better, made America more prosperous.

    It's a replay of the general historical pattern.

    Replies: @Jack D

  49. @Hypnotoad666
    Here's a math "word problem" for anyone interested: Assume a mean IQ for Jews of around 112-115, a mean IQ for whites of around 100, and a SD for both of around 15.

    Under those assumptions, what IQ score would consist of 35% Jews and 65% whites? Based on the circumstantial evidence, I'm guessing that would also be the average IQ of American billionaires. (With possible adjustment for those who are self-made and those who inherited).

    Replies: @Lagertha, @anon, @Lot, @neutral, @anon

    Griffe du Lion has long articles about these types of topics you may be interested in.

    Quick answer with some simple assumptions: about 155. If you worked it out more carefully it would be within 2 points of this.

    “ the average IQ of American billionaires”

    Maybe the self made ones.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Lot

    Made a dumb mistake above because I was doing math after midnight.

    The answer is 151 using 200m non-AJ whites, 6mil AJ whites, means of 100 and 115, SD of 15.

    Or maybe I made another mistake, this isn’t Derb’s blog bro.

  50. @M_Young
    Amazing how many of these folks derive their well from, I guess, the Mars bar. Are they an exception to the shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in 3 generations rule?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Achmed E. Newman, @Corn

    A decade or so ago there were still four people named Hearst on the Forbes 400.

  51. @Reg Cæsar

    It’s perhaps interesting that the partial names are concentrated near the top of the list. That could be a fluke...
     
    ...or an example of hybrid vigor. These guys inherited the most remunerative qualities from both sides.

    Kind of how that group of Irish-English-Welsh-Scottish lads from the hub city on the Mersey dominated the music world 50-odd years ago. If they were just English, they'd've been the Dave Clark Five of the North.

    Replies: @anonymous coward

    The Beatles were an artificial homunculus, created from whole cloth by the usual suspects – a Jewish homosexual pedophile pervert.

    Talent or ‘vigor’ had nothing to do with it, a painted pig could have become a superstar in the 1960’s; it was the short sweet spot of history when everybody had TV but nobody had immunity to its stupefying mind control.

    • Agree: neutral
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @anonymous coward


    the 1960’s; it was the short sweet spot of history when everybody had TV but nobody had immunity to its stupefying mind control.
     
    As opposed to now, when at least three percent of the public has immunity. Even covid is less virulent than television.

    Replies: @DextersLabRat

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @anonymous coward


    The Beatles were an artificial homunculus, created from whole cloth by the usual suspects – a Jewish homosexual pedophile pervert.
     
    I've always said they are the first boy band.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @anonymous coward

    They could write a tune, and you can't.

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong

    , @Anonymous
    @anonymous coward

    Please. You (vastly) underestimate their talent.

    https://m.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/the-greatest-albums-of-all-time

    4/ top 4

    6/ top 11.

    9/ top 21

    No one else has more than 2 in the top 20. There is no Mozart to their Beethoven, and I'm not sure there is even a Bach they are that dominant.

    BTW I did not know what was going to turn up when I went there, but figured it would be pretty obvious. They were the original supergroup, with the two leads competing with each other and having meaningful solo careers and every member chipping in with the hits.

    Talent rose. Take Elvis. He had fans for a reason. He could take a song from S&G, and do it so well (Bridge over Troubled Waters) that they thought it was potentially better than their own version. BTW I was born after all of these artists had their day in the sun.

    Unfortunately your take on the fab 4 obscures an interesting take on the 1960s. The age of media before splintering. I think we are talking about pre-cable TV.


    Talent or ‘vigor’ had nothing to do with it, a painted pig could have become a superstar in the 1960’s; it was the short sweet spot of history when everybody had TV but nobody had immunity to its stupefying mind control.
     
    Now due to that splintering and the gradual genocidal activity of that Jewish control to give motivation, the genie is out of the bottle again. Things change. It is hard to dominate the world in any activity for an extended period of time. You have to get up pretty early to do it.
  52. Speaking of rich and “rich-adjacent” people, isn’t this an unusual death?

    Fahim Saleh, slain tech CEO, helped bring big tech to the developing world

    Saudi Arabia-born American immigrant entrepeneur, son of Bangladeshi parents, found dismembered in his Manhattan condo. New York Times reports it, but only in its “New York” section, not (as of right now) on its front pageand not very prominently (currently it’s given the same prominence as a story titled ”No Food? No Booze. Cuomo Cracks Down on Outdoor Drinking at Bars” and “It’s a Tough Time to Be a Street Musician With a 900-Pound Piano”.
    To the histrionics reading this, I’m not implying the NYT had a hand into his killing, directly or indirectly. But I thought crimes of that nature were very rare in that city, and it was commited against a POC immigrant. Yet they’re seemingly not making that huge of a deal out of it.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @gabriel alberton

    They just arrested his personal assistant, who also apparently was embezzling from the boss. With employees like that, who needs enemies?

    Replies: @gabriel alberton

  53. @anonymous
    The US is 59% white. The top 100 billionaires are 97% white. A Persian, Pakistani, and Chinese. It helps keep perspective. Whites are overwhelmingly dominant in America and non-whites despite growing numbers are not taking over America any time soon. The current mania is driven by white liberals who have the luxury from a position of dominance to launch a religious awakening elevating non-whites for spiritual and fun reasons. They are in a position to flip the switch when they eventually become exhausted from the awakening.

    Replies: @anonymous coward, @Anonymous

    …for spiritual and fun reasons

    Really? Look back at history – America was always an investment venture, not a nation. The returns on investment always were always driven by cheap labor, ethnic cleansing and population replacement.

    You think that somehow after 500 years this will change? Just because those ethnically cleansed are now ‘white’?

    What can I say, only ‘LOL’.

  54. @Thomm
    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks. Then again, the half-Jews should have only half-weight, and many further down the list are half-Jews. If weighted in this manner down the entire table, the weighted Jewish proportion probably falls from 33.25% to 27-28%.

    At any rate, most of the younger 'Jews' on the list are half-Jews, and most of the younger Jews and half-Jews are married to non-Jews, so the bigger theme is ongoing Jewish dilution, more than anything.

    This is a good time to point out that many of the anti-Jewish memes in the comments on this website have many logical flaws :

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the 'Jews are bad' wing of White Nationalism fails.
    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.


    Sincerely,
    -Mordecai 'Ira' Rabinowitz

    Replies: @Cido, @Emblematic, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Thomas, @Negrolphin Pool, @Franz, @Bill Jones, @Ian Smith, @Amerimutt Golems, @Lockean Proviso, @ben tillman, @stillCARealist, @Anon, @Anon, @jbwilson24

    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks.

    From what I’ve seen, this is simply not true. The median black family has only a small fraction of the median white family’s wealth. While Jews are hugely overrepresented at the pinnacle of wealth accumulation, which is probably a good proxy for the total wealth under Jewish control, this does not imply that average Jews are dramatically outperforming average white gentiles. I believe the median Jewish net worth is perhaps only twice that of the median gentile white.

    This is a huge qualitative difference because, at that point, we are counting who has more cars in the garage rather than if they even have a roof over their head.

    The primary factors behind Jewish success in wealth accumulation are ethnic nepotism, including financial networking, and elevated business ruthlessness. Look at the background of NY slumlords. Look at the ethnic backgrounds of those involved in the notorious LBO corporate raiding of the 1980s. Jews tend to reduce business to war: hard-boiled mercenaries against, rather than in service of, the market. Or look at the shocking disproportion of the “white” perps featured on “American Greed” who happen to have Jewish surnames or obvious Jewface. There is little doubt that, on average, Jews have a less developed sense of fair play and have no compunction about employing that strength to their game-theoretic advantage.

    On the other hand, gentile whites are often deeply concerned with fairness in their business dealings and merit in who they hire, with nepotism of any kind, particularly ethnic, actively shunned. Are black Americans more like Jews in this respect or more like gentiles? That blacks aren’t able to replicate the success of Jews despite having the key ingredients for Jewish-style competitive dominance only serves to highlight their shortcomings, which are mostly accounted for by critically lower average intelligence — you don’t need great brains to get rich, nor can you easily hold stacks while dragging your knuckles — lower future orientation and an absence of whatever vital spark drives the entrepreneur to surmount any hurdle.

    Then again, the half-Jews should have only half-weight, and many further down the list are half-Jews. If weighted in this manner down the entire table, the weighted Jewish proportion probably falls from 33.25% to 27-28%.

    It also makes sense to adjust for familial dynastic wealth because the fortune of, for instance, the Waltons all comes from the same source. Even financially adept scions like the Koch brothers were born on third base. Only counting as one entry all scions from the same family would push the number of arguable Jews in the top 20 richest Americans to either 50 or 55 percent, depending on if Rupert Murdoch is half Jewish. This ignores weighting, but weighting by genetics is unlikely to matter all that much because the determining factor will be the extent to which the individuals identify as Jews as well as the extent to which they are identified as Jews by their coethnics.

    Taking 50 percent, this does represent an incredible skew towards Jewish domination among the very richest. A cumulative probability calculator gives the probability that a group representing 2 percent of a society ends up as half of its richest members by luck alone as being statistically zero. The actual probability is, I believe, something like one in 10 trillion.

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the ‘Jews are bad’ wing of White Nationalism fails.
    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.

    1)Ethnic nepotism characterized by exclusionary financial networking. Also, no one claims that Jews control everything. They effectively control key areas that they leverage to conduct ethnic warfare.

    2)Many gentiles cannot identify Jews even by their surnames, much less their phyzz. No one would mistake a Chinaman for a roundeye. 2b) New York City has, by far, the most Jews of any single city. This is the result of America’s historic amenability to Jewish infiltration, far more than Russia or EU.

    3)See above. Enslavement many generations ago plays zero role in the continuing dysfunction of blacks. It holds zero weight. You can’t get weaker than zero.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Negrolphin Pool

    "depending on if Rupert Murdoch is half Jewish"

    My source deployed deep in the Australian Establishment says, "No, Rupert Murdoch is not half Jewish. I went to his purportedly Jewish mother's funeral. Brits have a long track record of being brilliant press barons."

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Jonathan Mason, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Jack D
    @Negrolphin Pool

    You are delusional about many things. Murdoch is in no way, shape or form Jewish.

    From personal experience, none of my (modest) wealth accumulation was aided by ethnic nepotism - in fact the opposite. The "business ruthlessness" that you speak of extends to the business relations between Jews and their fellow Jews, even their closest blood relatives. You can't be ruthless and nepotistic at the same time - pick one.

    You also don't understand how markets work. Mercenary in the context of business is a compliment, not an insult. When you operate your business on market principles (within the limits of the law), you are by definition acting in service of the market. In order to achieve the magical "Invisible Hand" effect, the participants in the market MUST go to war against it or markets won't function - you'll have something (a gentlemen's club perhaps) but it won't be a market. What happens with some businessmen (Jewish but also others) is that in their efforts to harvest the fruits of the market right up to the edge of the law they sometimes stray over the line and cross it. On a worldwide basis, compared to say the Chinese, the Jews are mere pikers in that regard.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Negrolphin Pool

    , @Corvinus
    @Negrolphin Pool

    "The primary factors behind Jewish success in wealth accumulation are ethnic nepotism, including financial networking, and elevated business ruthlessness."

    You mean behind Jewish and non-Jewish success. In other words, a capitalist on steroids.

    "On the other hand, gentile whites are often deeply concerned with fairness in their business dealings and merit in who they hire, with nepotism of any kind, particularly ethnic, actively shunned."

    You mean like Carnegie, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, Sam Walton, and Fred C. Koch?

    , @Steve Sailer
    @Negrolphin Pool

    To take a single data point: the Jewish guy I went to MBA school with who became "America's highest paid female CEO:"

    He made 2 fortunes, both off inventing useful things:

    - Satellite radio
    - A cure for the disease plaguing one of the children he fathered.

    His classmates found his egomania hard to deal with, but I can't begrudge him his 2 fortunes.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Negrolphin Pool

  55. @Thomm
    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks. Then again, the half-Jews should have only half-weight, and many further down the list are half-Jews. If weighted in this manner down the entire table, the weighted Jewish proportion probably falls from 33.25% to 27-28%.

    At any rate, most of the younger 'Jews' on the list are half-Jews, and most of the younger Jews and half-Jews are married to non-Jews, so the bigger theme is ongoing Jewish dilution, more than anything.

    This is a good time to point out that many of the anti-Jewish memes in the comments on this website have many logical flaws :

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the 'Jews are bad' wing of White Nationalism fails.
    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.


    Sincerely,
    -Mordecai 'Ira' Rabinowitz

    Replies: @Cido, @Emblematic, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Thomas, @Negrolphin Pool, @Franz, @Bill Jones, @Ian Smith, @Amerimutt Golems, @Lockean Proviso, @ben tillman, @stillCARealist, @Anon, @Anon, @jbwilson24

    If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the ‘Jews are bad’ wing of White Nationalism fails.

    I checked on all that some while back — Your premise of that wing of White Nationalism is wrong.

    That wing is made up of many not-rich non-Jews who just want what Jews have: A country of their own.

    Not one WN I ever talked to wanted Israel destroyed. There may well be some, but I don’t bother with nuts.

    At the same time nearly all Jews insist European nations must become diverse. That’s the source of the friction.

    Who ever explained the “Jews are bad” wing of WN to you bungled the job. Happy to correct it.

    • Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    @Franz

    Murray Bernays, beloved of FDR, was a Jew largely responsible for switching the idea of a "war crimes" tribunal from a trial of soldiers who had broken the accepted laws of war to a trial of crimes committed before the war, or of crimes committed by a government against their own citizens.

    (Imagine, if you will, that Russia, following a conquest of America, tried American officials for the "war crime" of the 1993 siege of Waco, the "war crime" of abortion, or the "war crime" of the invasion of Iraq ... actually, I guess that last one isn't so crazy...)

    Roosevelt's Secretary of War, Stimson, criticized the Joint Chiefs of Staff for their original proposal, which would, like all previous war crimes trials, have followed the convention that the US, like all other countries, may put enemy warriors on trial for the same sorts of crimes for which we may try our own soldiers.


    Bernays, special aide to Robert Jackson, received the Legion of Merit from the Roosevelt administration on the following grounds: “Early recognizing the need for a sound basis in dealing with the problem of war criminals and war crimes, he formulated the basic concept of such a policy and initiated timely and appropriate action which assured its adoption as the foundation of national policy.”


    Here's what Bernays told American press about Nuremberg:


    “There are a good many Nazi criminals who will get off if the roundups aren’t conducted efficiently. But if we establish that the SS, for example, was a criminal organization, and that membership in it is evidence per se of criminality, the Allies are going to get hold of a great many more criminals in one swoop. You know, a lot of people here at home don’t realize that we are now the government of Germany in our zone and that no judicial system can exist other than one we approve. We are the law. If we wanted to, for instance, could try Germans for crimes twenty, thirty, forty years old. We’ll be too busy with the current crop of war criminals, though, to have much time to look into ancient wrongdoings.”
     
    It was not a trial. It was a frame-up. One of the Soviet "judges," a Nikitchenko, said before the trial, "...we are dealing here with the chief war criminals who have already been convicted." This "trial" made a deliberate mockery of old American beliefs about how a trial is supposed to work.

    This was one of the most shameful episodes in all of history. Against the will of the American people, we fought World War Two to destroy other nations and fulfill Jewish revenge fantasies against their old enemies.

    Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan, @AnotherDad

  56. A neat part of the list (age) is why we needed Corona-Chan to perform better. Turn over the business to young people so they get a chance to thrive.

  57. This is a list, but it is more surprising why this is just a list. Why no effort in explanation?

    Wouldn’t it be more rewarding to try to ascertain why this is so? The answer to me seems rather trivial: Jews, as a historical ethnicity, possess a compound of enough intellectual inquisitiveness, ethics of mutual help & hard work (clannishness) and are materially oriented (actually, such is their religious culture, rather down to earth). If you are gifted, hard-working, clannish & thisworldly oriented-this is a recipe for material success (add low levels of ethical behavior to outsiders, infamous Jewish cheating).

    So, ethnic Jews seem to me predisposed to achieve material success (not only as a minority, just see the number of home-grown billionaires in Israel compared to number of billionaires in Switzerland or Dennark).

    The comparison with the Chinese or high caste Indians is not correct because these are very different cultures with different motives & alien family power dynamics.

    The answer is trivial: ethnic Jews are highly capable in making money, especially in hedge funds/investments & media aspects of modern technology, just as blacks are capable of high achievement in many, especially US-centered, sports.

  58. @Clifford Brown
    Out of respect for the Jewish People, Ballmer is not Jewish.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f__n8084YAE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhh_GeBPOhs

    Replies: @duncsbaby, @El Dato

    Yeah, when I saw Steve Ballmer as Jewish I was a bit surprised. Still find it hard to believe.

  59. @Lot
    All of the top 50 I know to be open Trump supporters are Jewish: Schwarzman, Adelson, Koum, Ichan.

    Am I missing anyone? Maybe the Waltons?

    Ray Dalio was mildly pro-Trump the first year, then “soured” on him according to one article.

    Replies: @Not Only Wrathful, @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon

    Ray Dalio was mildly pro-Trump the first year, then “soured” on him according to one article.

    Ray Dalio is very interesting. He would enjoy reading iSteve, which he might.

  60. @anon
    @Hypnotoad666

    And yet...

    Israel is a developing, borderline-3rd world country that relies on American foreign aid, military intervention and tech transfers to Haifa.

    Meanwhile, NE Asia, from a human capital POV, started well behind refugee WW2 Jewery, and has blown past Israel, which has a giant advantage because of Jewish-dominated capital markets.

    Let me know when that Israeli smartphone comes out.

    Replies: @Not Only Wrathful

    I am sure Jews loom big in your imagination, but, with 200,000 employees, Huawei would be the fourth most populous Israeli city by itself.

  61. Jewish organizations usually report that Jews make up 2.2% of the U.S. population, so being about 1/3rd of the Forbes 100 is impressive.

    Put a Jewish Tiger in your tank!

  62. https://ethnicelebs.com/larry-page

    Ethnicity:
    *father – English, some Irish, distant German and French
    *mother – Ashkenazi Jewish

    • Replies: @anon
    @Some Guy

    Interestingly, Page's Y Haplogroup (from his father) is E-V13 (according to Eupedia.com). E-V13 is much more common among Jews than among Northern Europeans.

    It would be a very entertaining project (for me) to organize all the males on the list by their Y-Haplogroup and determine any correlation.

  63. larrynoodles.com keeps internet tab on these type escapades. Larry Noodles is the pseudonym of a Jewish lawyer who served time for white collar crime in Otisville, the federal penitentiary reserved for Jewish clientele. Highly recommended, especially for the goyim.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Dan Hayes

    Clarification: The "escapades" refer to the exploits of Rabbi Goldstein reported by the New York Post as cited in Comment #31.

  64. Horseface and Fleshmonster agree that Trump is reading the Necronomicon aloud, which will might well lead to all kinds of spirit cooking and endangers us all:

    Mary Trump tells Maddow she heard president use ‘n-word’ and ‘anti-Semitic slurs,’ but all too convenient timing instills doubt

    Pressed specifically about the “n-word” and “anti-Semitic slurs,” Mary again replied with a curt “Yes,” though provided no specific examples or further detail as to where and when the supposed slurs were used.

    Probably uttered while shifting another several billion of freshly printed money to “over there” and greenlighting aggressive not-quite-War,not-quite-Anschluss actions.

  65. @Negrolphin Pool
    @Thomm


    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks.
     
    From what I've seen, this is simply not true. The median black family has only a small fraction of the median white family's wealth. While Jews are hugely overrepresented at the pinnacle of wealth accumulation, which is probably a good proxy for the total wealth under Jewish control, this does not imply that average Jews are dramatically outperforming average white gentiles. I believe the median Jewish net worth is perhaps only twice that of the median gentile white.

    This is a huge qualitative difference because, at that point, we are counting who has more cars in the garage rather than if they even have a roof over their head.


    The primary factors behind Jewish success in wealth accumulation are ethnic nepotism, including financial networking, and elevated business ruthlessness. Look at the background of NY slumlords. Look at the ethnic backgrounds of those involved in the notorious LBO corporate raiding of the 1980s. Jews tend to reduce business to war: hard-boiled mercenaries against, rather than in service of, the market. Or look at the shocking disproportion of the "white" perps featured on "American Greed" who happen to have Jewish surnames or obvious Jewface. There is little doubt that, on average, Jews have a less developed sense of fair play and have no compunction about employing that strength to their game-theoretic advantage.

    On the other hand, gentile whites are often deeply concerned with fairness in their business dealings and merit in who they hire, with nepotism of any kind, particularly ethnic, actively shunned. Are black Americans more like Jews in this respect or more like gentiles? That blacks aren't able to replicate the success of Jews despite having the key ingredients for Jewish-style competitive dominance only serves to highlight their shortcomings, which are mostly accounted for by critically lower average intelligence — you don't need great brains to get rich, nor can you easily hold stacks while dragging your knuckles — lower future orientation and an absence of whatever vital spark drives the entrepreneur to surmount any hurdle.


    Then again, the half-Jews should have only half-weight, and many further down the list are half-Jews. If weighted in this manner down the entire table, the weighted Jewish proportion probably falls from 33.25% to 27-28%.
     
    It also makes sense to adjust for familial dynastic wealth because the fortune of, for instance, the Waltons all comes from the same source. Even financially adept scions like the Koch brothers were born on third base. Only counting as one entry all scions from the same family would push the number of arguable Jews in the top 20 richest Americans to either 50 or 55 percent, depending on if Rupert Murdoch is half Jewish. This ignores weighting, but weighting by genetics is unlikely to matter all that much because the determining factor will be the extent to which the individuals identify as Jews as well as the extent to which they are identified as Jews by their coethnics.

    Taking 50 percent, this does represent an incredible skew towards Jewish domination among the very richest. A cumulative probability calculator gives the probability that a group representing 2 percent of a society ends up as half of its richest members by luck alone as being statistically zero. The actual probability is, I believe, something like one in 10 trillion.


    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the ‘Jews are bad’ wing of White Nationalism fails.
    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.
     
    1)Ethnic nepotism characterized by exclusionary financial networking. Also, no one claims that Jews control everything. They effectively control key areas that they leverage to conduct ethnic warfare.

    2)Many gentiles cannot identify Jews even by their surnames, much less their phyzz. No one would mistake a Chinaman for a roundeye. 2b) New York City has, by far, the most Jews of any single city. This is the result of America's historic amenability to Jewish infiltration, far more than Russia or EU.

    3)See above. Enslavement many generations ago plays zero role in the continuing dysfunction of blacks. It holds zero weight. You can't get weaker than zero.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jack D, @Corvinus, @Steve Sailer

    “depending on if Rupert Murdoch is half Jewish”

    My source deployed deep in the Australian Establishment says, “No, Rupert Murdoch is not half Jewish. I went to his purportedly Jewish mother’s funeral. Brits have a long track record of being brilliant press barons.”

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Steve Sailer

    To complete the cycle: Murdoch's low-life sons were sent to Catholic schools. Even worse, old man Murdoch will be entombed in Los Angeles's architecturally abominable RC cathedral!

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Steve Sailer


    Brits have a long track record of being brilliant press barons.
     
    Like this old-world aristocratic toff, perhaps?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oXDRAr2shs
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer

    Scots control banking in the Southern Hemisphere. One of their Antipodean institutions bought my old employer and everything got tighter and tighter.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  66. The question I want answered is where the Jewish folk are finding their magic dirt.

  67. You gotta wonder why no Rockefellers ever appear on any of these lists. I have he same issue with the international lists where no Rothschilds ever appear. I don’t imagine these lists are terribly accurate. I prefer to think of them more as a very exclusive version of Who’s Who in … for rich people.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Digital Samizdat

    David Rockefeller who died several years ago at over 100 years of age, was on the billionaires list with roughly 2 billion. Forbes estimates the great family fortunes, which have long since dispersed to dozens or even hundreds and thousands of descendants wives etc here:


    https://www.forbes.com/families/list/#tab:overall

    The Duponts, Mellons, Rockefellers stilll have vast fortunes they are simply split up down to the quiet daughter who likes horses rather than the city.



    There are several rothschilds in Europe with centi million fortunes as well.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Steve Sailer
    @Digital Samizdat

    There are a lot of Rockefellers, Vanderbilts, Astors, and DuPonts. Perhaps Hearsts as well.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Ben tillman

  68. @Steve Sailer
    @Dan Hayes

    Jews are usually quite interested in who is Jewish.

    Replies: @syonredux, @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan, @Ron Mexico

    Understatement.

  69. I see Gates’ money is listed as sourced from Microsoft.
    I saw something a few months ago that the bulk has now been made from the global health scams he’s running.

  70. @M_Young
    Amazing how many of these folks derive their well from, I guess, the Mars bar. Are they an exception to the shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in 3 generations rule?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Achmed E. Newman, @Corn

    Not just Mars bars, which you hardly ever see anyway. We’re talking M&Ms, Milky Ways, Snickers, and Skittles … Know anyone who has never eaten any of those? Actually I only know a handful of people who have never eaten ALL of those.

    It’s shirtless to can’t-find-a big-enough-shirt in 3 generations, at least for the customers.

  71. @Franz
    @Thomm


    If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the ‘Jews are bad’ wing of White Nationalism fails.
     
    I checked on all that some while back -- Your premise of that wing of White Nationalism is wrong.

    That wing is made up of many not-rich non-Jews who just want what Jews have: A country of their own.

    Not one WN I ever talked to wanted Israel destroyed. There may well be some, but I don't bother with nuts.

    At the same time nearly all Jews insist European nations must become diverse. That's the source of the friction.

    Who ever explained the "Jews are bad" wing of WN to you bungled the job. Happy to correct it.

    Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    Murray Bernays, beloved of FDR, was a Jew largely responsible for switching the idea of a “war crimes” tribunal from a trial of soldiers who had broken the accepted laws of war to a trial of crimes committed before the war, or of crimes committed by a government against their own citizens.

    (Imagine, if you will, that Russia, following a conquest of America, tried American officials for the “war crime” of the 1993 siege of Waco, the “war crime” of abortion, or the “war crime” of the invasion of Iraq … actually, I guess that last one isn’t so crazy…)

    Roosevelt’s Secretary of War, Stimson, criticized the Joint Chiefs of Staff for their original proposal, which would, like all previous war crimes trials, have followed the convention that the US, like all other countries, may put enemy warriors on trial for the same sorts of crimes for which we may try our own soldiers.

    Bernays, special aide to Robert Jackson, received the Legion of Merit from the Roosevelt administration on the following grounds: “Early recognizing the need for a sound basis in dealing with the problem of war criminals and war crimes, he formulated the basic concept of such a policy and initiated timely and appropriate action which assured its adoption as the foundation of national policy.”

    Here’s what Bernays told American press about Nuremberg:

    “There are a good many Nazi criminals who will get off if the roundups aren’t conducted efficiently. But if we establish that the SS, for example, was a criminal organization, and that membership in it is evidence per se of criminality, the Allies are going to get hold of a great many more criminals in one swoop. You know, a lot of people here at home don’t realize that we are now the government of Germany in our zone and that no judicial system can exist other than one we approve. We are the law. If we wanted to, for instance, could try Germans for crimes twenty, thirty, forty years old. We’ll be too busy with the current crop of war criminals, though, to have much time to look into ancient wrongdoings.”

    It was not a trial. It was a frame-up. One of the Soviet “judges,” a Nikitchenko, said before the trial, “…we are dealing here with the chief war criminals who have already been convicted.” This “trial” made a deliberate mockery of old American beliefs about how a trial is supposed to work.

    This was one of the most shameful episodes in all of history. Against the will of the American people, we fought World War Two to destroy other nations and fulfill Jewish revenge fantasies against their old enemies.

    • Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    As an addendum, I would like to quote Chief Justice Harlan Fiske Stone, who gave an interview to Fortune Magazine that was critical of Judge Jackson's gallivanting, grandstanding "trial."


    "So far as the Nuremberg trial is an attempt to justify the application of the power of the victor to the vanquished because the vanquished made aggressive war. I dislike extremely to see it dressed up with a false facade of legality. The best that can be said for it is that it is a political act of the victorious States, which may be morally right, as was the sequestration of Napoleon about 1815. But the allies in that day did not feel it necessary to justify it by an appeal to nonexistent legal principles. As a practical matter, it seems to me that the difficulties and uncertainties of saying who is the aggressor under the conditions which produce modern war should make us hesitate to lay down for the future a principle which would always require that question to be answered by the victor.

    It would not disturb me greatly if that power were openly and frankly used to punish the German leaders for being a bad lot, but it disturbs me some to have it dressed up in the habiliments of the Common Law and the constitutional safeguards to those charged with crime. It looks as though we were committing ourselves to the proposition that the outcome of every war must be that the leaders of the vanquished must be executed by the victors."
     
    Just remember this, folks, the next time someone dares to speak favorably of FDR.

    Thanks, Steve, for letting me post these comments and for being a good host in general.
    , @AnotherDad
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan


    This was one of the most shameful episodes in all of history. Against the will of the American people, we fought World War Two to destroy other nations and fulfill Jewish revenge fantasies against their old enemies.
     
    Huh?

    Our war against the Filipinos getting their independence was "shameful".

    Nuremburg trials? Most shameful? You've got to be kidding. Yeah they legally they were a joke, but not the least bit "shameful".

    The Nazis' imperialism dragged Europe into another incredibly bloody war--against the will of the German people, if that has something to do with your standard--causing millions of deaths and immense suffering. Stringing up a few of the Nazis was responsible was a morally required--if tepid--response.

    Actually it would be goodness if every war ended up with the losing side's leaders strung up. That would be an incentive ... not to go rushing off to war. Europe had bloody history in part because rulers could at a whim go to their Jewish bankers for more money to fight. And win or lose--they are still alive, the Jewish bankers (usually) still solvent, but a bunch of young men killed and mutilated, a bunch of women raped, and all the people under the boot of more taxation to pay more debt. "You lose you die" ... we'd have had less war.

    It wouldn't be a terrible idea for America to have a rule that if the President wants to go to war he submits himself to execution. War should be a "this more important than my life" deal. Cause that's what it will be for some of the young men fighting it.


    Heck, the Nazis justly deserved execution simply for what they wrought--
    -- handing Stalin the Soviets Eastern Europe
    -- giving the Jews the Holocaust cudgel to beat whites
    -- given the Jews a handy slur--"Nazi!"--to smear nationalist patriots. Since they invaded twenty something nations, they should have called themselves the German Imperialist Party (DIPs) and left us nationalists out of it.

    Yeah, the War had lots of unpunished evil doers--e.g. Stalin. The roots of the 20th Century's conflicts were in--particularly British and French--imperialism and the US should never have intervened in The Great War without resolving imperialism as "the past" to be parted with and nationalism as the right of all peoples. But rounding up a bunch of this Nazi scum and hanging 'em. Count me unashamed.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Jack D, @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

  72. AOC’s “tax the rich” protest now happening

    Trying to parse the photo, one overweight black lady, an asian in a hiking tent and someone who could be one of those wall-climbing immigrants.

    WATCH: Immigrant workers camp outside Bezos’ NYC apartment as part of AOC-sponsored campaign to tax billionaires

    Dozens of immigrant workers have begun a joint 24-hour fast and sleep-out outside billionaire Jeff Bezos’ $16 million penthouse in Manhattan, to lobby New York authorities to tax the wealthy to help the pandemic-affected poor.

    We are in Victor Hugo territory. POC, pandemic-affected, poor, immigrant and worker and blocked from unemployment relief. And now fasting and sleeping. But Les Nouveaux Misérables are well-dressed thanks to Chinese Manufacturing Prowess. Also carrying camcorders.

    The AOC-sponsored bill is aimed at taxing the unrealized capital gains of the state’s 119 billionaires to help make up for some of the state’s $13 billion budget shortfall and free up funds to help those most-impacted by the pandemic.

    So this will fix things up this year. But what about next year? Someone will have to print more dollars.

  73. @Thomm
    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks. Then again, the half-Jews should have only half-weight, and many further down the list are half-Jews. If weighted in this manner down the entire table, the weighted Jewish proportion probably falls from 33.25% to 27-28%.

    At any rate, most of the younger 'Jews' on the list are half-Jews, and most of the younger Jews and half-Jews are married to non-Jews, so the bigger theme is ongoing Jewish dilution, more than anything.

    This is a good time to point out that many of the anti-Jewish memes in the comments on this website have many logical flaws :

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the 'Jews are bad' wing of White Nationalism fails.
    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.


    Sincerely,
    -Mordecai 'Ira' Rabinowitz

    Replies: @Cido, @Emblematic, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Thomas, @Negrolphin Pool, @Franz, @Bill Jones, @Ian Smith, @Amerimutt Golems, @Lockean Proviso, @ben tillman, @stillCARealist, @Anon, @Anon, @jbwilson24

    The characteristics, including honesty and openness, that make white society so successful, make it vulnerable to those who do not share those characteristics.
    That would be you.

    • Replies: @dreydl smasher
    @Bill Jones

    oh i see now it's because you're superior lol omg MY SIDES! YOU WILL RULE AGAIN IN WA'NAKA!

    , @Lurker
    @Bill Jones

    He has claimed to be a street shi**er but may actually be a chicken swinger.

  74. @Clifford Brown
    Out of respect for the Jewish People, Ballmer is not Jewish.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f__n8084YAE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhh_GeBPOhs

    Replies: @duncsbaby, @El Dato

    He culturally appropriates gentile behaviour during company events 🤣

  75. Anonymous[166] • Disclaimer says:

    Can we also talk about another often unspoken Jewish Privilege: Longevity and Health? They tend to have longer lives compared to Gentiles (not Asians), especially the Ashkenazi. Longer teleromes, less cancer, less heart disease, less Alzheimers etc, etc. is well documented and adds a few points of vibrancy to their stellar IQs, allows them to accumulate more wealth over a lifetime amd impart larger fortunes to heirs.

    https://nymag.com/news/features/ashkenazi-jews-2011-11/

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Thats almost certainly BS. Terrible diets, urban living, heavy smokers historically.

    Far northern races and island peoples mature slowest, reach greatest longevity broadly speaking.

  76. I suppose Steve is sensitive to the issue of material wealth because life was not especially generous to him in that regard, at least, that’s what many of us think.

    Just, that’s either the price of being a different drummer or simply karma, dharma, kismet….

    For instance- which is Jared Taylor’s net worth?

    Ann Coulter’s net worth is, according to Internet, $ 8.5 million. And she is, let’s be frank, a joke. Her books suck. Nobody with half a brain could take her rants seriously (although she is right about some issues).

    Gavin McInnes- $ 10 million.

    This country is very, very generous toward clowns & comedians. Others need not apply.

    Speaking of Jews, much worthier people than those Steve had listed do have reasonably affluent existences, but in comparison with those mentioned- they’re modest. Edward Witten has increased his wealth only because he has gotten some money from a bragging science philantropist; and browsing aimlessly through the Web, I’ve encountered the story about- I think they’re both Jews- mathematician Maria Chudnovsky & her artistic husband Daniel, how they bought a house: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/12/realestate/striking-while-the-iron-is-hot.html

    This is, I guess, a wealthy home, but they’ve barely succeeded after a long search. And these people have, I suppose, a stratospheric IQ in comparison with those on the list. The truth is, the people who really made & are making global progress in the world, whichever ethnicity- are, generally, not too moneyed.

    So much about IQ reductionism.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Ann Coulter’s net worth is, according to Internet, $ 8.5 million. And she is, let’s be frank, a joke.
     
    Never trust a smokejumper, bruh.
  77. @anonymous coward
    @Reg Cæsar

    The Beatles were an artificial homunculus, created from whole cloth by the usual suspects - a Jewish homosexual pedophile pervert.

    Talent or 'vigor' had nothing to do with it, a painted pig could have become a superstar in the 1960's; it was the short sweet spot of history when everybody had TV but nobody had immunity to its stupefying mind control.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    the 1960’s; it was the short sweet spot of history when everybody had TV but nobody had immunity to its stupefying mind control.

    As opposed to now, when at least three percent of the public has immunity. Even covid is less virulent than television.

    • Replies: @DextersLabRat
    @HammerJack

    No one watches TV anymore. The mind control outlet has moved to smartphones, from the news feed to social media to YouTube.

  78. Goodness, ‘Charlamagne tha God’ is speaking out on Jewish power too:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/charlamagne-tha-god-says-nick-184715407.html

    Blacks seem to have an instinct for the truth on this issue more than White Gentiles. And they don’t have the self-control to keep quiet. And maybe now they’re getting power hungry.

    When I think of it, I’ve never heard a Black person express the slightest concern about the holocaust. I’m afraid that’s a masochistic White guilt thing.

  79. @Not Only Wrathful
    @Dan Hayes

    Trying to find yourself in famous examples of your co-ethnics is a common habit.

    Jews may try to find their cool in recognising Drake as Jewish, for example.

    It is, unfortunately however, often counter-productive.

    One should be looking for what you repress in yourself in those other identities and groups which you hate.

    A Jew looking for their cool in Drake will just end up distancing themselves from it, as they will attribute it to Drake's blackness and not Jewishness.

    In this way, people end up alienated from themselves.

    Identity politics seems to be the most pernicious force in encouraging this self-alienation in history, especially when combined with a mass media culture.

    The results are to be seen everywhere around you, and in you.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    Trying to find yourself in famous examples of your co-ethnics is a common habit.

    Neither I nor anyone I have ever known has done this, with the conspicuous exception of the many Jewish people I’ve known.

    • Replies: @Not Only Wrathful
    @HammerJack

    Do you believe what you're saying?

    Really, do you?

    Hitler was obsessed with claiming that anyone successful in history was a German (true Aryan.)

    This website hosted a long article, complete with an interminable discussion, on the ethnicity of the Ancient Greeks.

    The identity of the Ancient Egyptians is another one.

    In fact, whenever there is cause for doubt, all plausible groups, and many totally implausible groups, will claim that famous person for their own.

    Columbus is a classic example. Even Jesus and the ancient Israelites have been claimed by practically every old world group. As have the Romans, or as iSteve occasionally does, the identity of the first settlers of the Americas.

    Your inability to see the obvious because you're blinded by your obsessional hatred of what you think of as Jews is utterly embarrassing.

    What next? Only Jews, and literally no one else, has ever lied? Breathed? Or drunk water?

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @HammerJack



    Trying to find yourself in famous examples of your co-ethnics is a common habit.
     
    Neither I nor anyone I have ever known has done this, with the conspicuous exception of the many Jewish people I’ve known.
     
    You've never met an Italian, a Pole, a Scandinavian, a Mexican, an Irishman, a Scot? Where do you live-- Gardiner's Island?

    Gardiners Island: A Nearly 400 Year Family History Of Pirates, Treasure And Triumph

    The colorful history of America's oldest family estate - the VERY private New York island where Captain Kidd buried his booty and Jackie O was accused of stealing a solid gold lighter during a dinner party for the crème de la crème of society



    https://www.easthamptonstar.com/sites/default/files/2019-04/20160107_GardinersIslandDougKuntz.jpg


    https://st.hzcdn.com/simgs/a761a1140ddbefd7_4-5174/home-design.jpg
  80. Anonymous[258] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot
    All of the top 50 I know to be open Trump supporters are Jewish: Schwarzman, Adelson, Koum, Ichan.

    Am I missing anyone? Maybe the Waltons?

    Ray Dalio was mildly pro-Trump the first year, then “soured” on him according to one article.

    Replies: @Not Only Wrathful, @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon

    All of the top 50 I know to be open Trump supporters are Jewish: Schwarzman, Adelson, Koum, Ichan.

    Interesting. Even expanding to the top 100 the notable Trump supporters are Jewish (Bob Kraft, Bernie Marcus).

    Then expanding to the top 200 billionaires you have Trump-supporting billionaire Russ Weiner (son of Michael Savage):

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinstoller/2020/03/11/rockstar-energy-drink-founder-cashing-out-for-nearly-4-billion-says-the-american-dream-is-alive-and-well/

    • Thanks: Lot
    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Anonymous

    That guy (Michael Savage's kid) could buy passports in 10 countries without batting an eyelid.

    Of course he's going to say the American Dream is alive and well.

    , @Redneck farmer
    @Anonymous

    Rock Star Recovery is good stuff.

    , @LondonBob
    @Anonymous

    They support Trump because of Israel, and to ensure he doesn't stray from the line too much on immigration and cultural issues, same reasons Kushner inserted himself so prominently in Trump's administration.

  81. @Anonymous
    @Thomm

    Ira,

    You are quite right that Whites' complaints about Jews sound similar to Blacks' complaints about Whites. This is because they are both complaining about a Jewish-run society. However, Black people refuse to acknowledge that the White Jews who run the society are a separate group from the White Gentiles who go along with it and support it. This is understandable because to separate the two would be, for Blacks, to give a free pass to the White Gentiles who acquiesce and support destructive Jewish-led policies.

    The same Jews in Hollywood who humiliate Black men on screen, create the anti-White (anti-Gentile) narratives as well. The same people are causing the problems for both groups, that's why the complaints are so similar. The same AIPAC-bought and ADL-bullied politicians betray White Gentiles and Black constituents alike in order to prioritize Jewish interests. The same corporate boardrooms are hostile to Blacks and White Gentiles.

    The confusion arises because Ashkenazi Jews have White skin, and call themselves White most of the time, in order to coax the more numerous Gentiles into performing whatever behavior the Jewish leaders desire, often centering around self-flagellation and denouncing "whiteness" (denouncing themselves.)

    What Blacks call White Supremacy is actually Jewish Supremacy, with a few benefits grandfathered in for White Gentiles. Jews own the plantation, White Gentiles are the House slaves and Blacks and Brown people are the field slaves.

    Technically you are wrong about them being similar phenomena, they are the same phenomena.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Just to set things straight

    What Blacks call White Supremacy is actually Jewish Supremacy, with a few benefits grandfathered in for White Gentiles. Jews own the plantation, White Gentiles are the House slaves and Blacks and Brown people are the field slaves.

    Some of what’s happening is that the owners are importing tons more slaves, which increases strife generally, especially with asians pushing whites out of the house and into the fields. Where they really don’t want to go.

  82. @AnotherDad
    @Thomm


    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks.
     
    Thomm, i realize you're doing your usual butthurt trolling, but it's an interesting topic. I'll take a poke.

    Short answer: No. The gaps are not the same.

    Measures of income and wealth in America for any group are all taking place in the context of the peace, prosperity and opportunity created and maintained--at least until recently--by white Americans.

    Gaps between racial and ethnic groups involve both questions of quantity and quality.

    If you had an America populated solely by Jews (Ashkenazim) versus one populated solely by white gentiles, the Jewish nation would outperform the white one on measures of innovation--e.g. patents, Nobel Prizes, etc.--by something like 10-1. It would be more economically prosperous. Probably something like Switzerland vs. Portugal.

    But ... the white gentile America would not suck. In fact, it would be pretty darn awesome. Jews are smarter, but they have the middle-man personality package. They have not figured out any new/better social organization. In fact their core organization--tribalism and a tribal ("We're God's chosen people")--is decidedly more primitive compared to what whites--high affective empathy, high trust at scale--and arguably others have developed.

    (If you had an America full of white gentiles with a normal IQ distribution matching the Jewish mean--maybe 112ish--and SD, most people would find that white nation a more pleasant place. Whites throw a great nation.)

    In contrast, the all black America ... would suck. It would be Africa. The difference in quantity of talent and the difference in personality would result in fundamental difference in quality. It would simply be something quite different ... and fundamentally inferior from the perspective of civilization.

    ~

    Simplest summary:

    Jews are smarter, but not better people than whites.

    Whites are smarter and better people than blacks.

    Replies: @TelfoedJohn, @Corvinus, @Ian M.

    Pre-70s gentile whites got us to the moon. Post-70s jews have got us diversity quotas. With perhaps more intellectual effort from the jews.

  83. @Dan Hayes
    larrynoodles.com keeps internet tab on these type escapades. Larry Noodles is the pseudonym of a Jewish lawyer who served time for white collar crime in Otisville, the federal penitentiary reserved for Jewish clientele. Highly recommended, especially for the goyim.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

    Clarification: The “escapades” refer to the exploits of Rabbi Goldstein reported by the New York Post as cited in Comment #31.

  84. I am impressed and gratified that Jews still have an edge. As for myself, born of a Jewish mother and father, I never made a dime. I like to think that nonetheless I am up to speed and more in another endeavor. See http://www.charlesumlauf.com/last_words.htm

  85. Thanks for the link. I didn’t realize that Shrek was Jewish, or at least borderline. His name is certainly Jewish – from the Yiddish shrek: fear, terror (shreklekh: awful, horrible; shrekn: to frighten, to scare).

  86. @Steve Sailer
    @Negrolphin Pool

    "depending on if Rupert Murdoch is half Jewish"

    My source deployed deep in the Australian Establishment says, "No, Rupert Murdoch is not half Jewish. I went to his purportedly Jewish mother's funeral. Brits have a long track record of being brilliant press barons."

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Jonathan Mason, @Reg Cæsar

    To complete the cycle: Murdoch’s low-life sons were sent to Catholic schools. Even worse, old man Murdoch will be entombed in Los Angeles’s architecturally abominable RC cathedral!

  87. @Thomm
    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks. Then again, the half-Jews should have only half-weight, and many further down the list are half-Jews. If weighted in this manner down the entire table, the weighted Jewish proportion probably falls from 33.25% to 27-28%.

    At any rate, most of the younger 'Jews' on the list are half-Jews, and most of the younger Jews and half-Jews are married to non-Jews, so the bigger theme is ongoing Jewish dilution, more than anything.

    This is a good time to point out that many of the anti-Jewish memes in the comments on this website have many logical flaws :

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the 'Jews are bad' wing of White Nationalism fails.
    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.


    Sincerely,
    -Mordecai 'Ira' Rabinowitz

    Replies: @Cido, @Emblematic, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Thomas, @Negrolphin Pool, @Franz, @Bill Jones, @Ian Smith, @Amerimutt Golems, @Lockean Proviso, @ben tillman, @stillCARealist, @Anon, @Anon, @jbwilson24

    Culture of Critique + naive Protestant philosemitism + the Holocaust narrative.

  88. @M_Young
    Amazing how many of these folks derive their well from, I guess, the Mars bar. Are they an exception to the shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in 3 generations rule?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Achmed E. Newman, @Corn

    If the Mars family is indeed an exception to that rule, it’s because they haven’t let the younger generation of Marses spoil themselves.

    I’ve read one or two articles over the years about the Marses and they have an incredible, workaholic work ethic. Even if you bear the surname Mars you are expected to punch a time clock five or six days a week and work ten, twelve, fourteen hours a day at the family business.

    • Thanks: The Wild Geese Howard
    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Corn

    The Marses are also very low profile. Mars has a giant presence in New Jersey, and when Jackie Mars was of working age she lived here. During that time she was our richest resident by far. Nevertheless, I wouldn't be able to pick her out of a lineup.

  89. What about, say, top 2-3 positions (president, provost) of top 100 US universities?

  90. “Jewish organizations usually report that Jews make up 2.2% of the U.S. population, so being about 1/3rd of the Forbes 100 is impressive.”

    And considering that in both numerical percentage of the US and in sheer numbers of their group, blacks far outnumber Jews, and yet they lag behind Jews on the top 100 list 35-4. So when prominent blacks like Nick Cannon and others point this out, they’re actually telling the truth.

  91. @Lagertha
    @Hypnotoad666

    I have an IQ of 169...my brother at 203...but we were young then, when tested. These days/decades long ago, we are degraded from our youth and stuff, hahaaaa! Both of our worst fears is: Bolshevism/Marxism/SV surveillance state & and the implementation of "useless eaters," a la' Yuval H.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Respectfully, an IQ of 203 is impossible. The frequency distribution of IQ 203 (over 6 SDs from the mean) is 1 in 11 billion and there are only 8 billion people on earth. The scoring on the most common IQ test (Weschler) tops out at 160. I don’t know what kind of test they gave you but it wasn’t a real IQ test.

    • Agree: botazefa
    • Replies: @Anonymouse
    @Jack D

    I have no idea what kind of IQ test I sat in 1947 when I was 13. I was told my score was 157, the next highest being classmate Donald Safford or Stafford who scored 141. I googled "New York City Board of Education IQ tests in the 1940s" but to no avail.

    Replies: @Faraday's Bobcat

    , @The Alarmist
    @Jack D

    Give it up dude, you’re arguing with a crazy person.

    https://youtu.be/RjluRCKL8R4

    Replies: @Lagertha

    , @Lagertha
    @Jack D

    erhmmm! cough. Forgot to add that my brother's score was for visuospatial IQ. Mine was more mainstream/regular IQ. They tested us in 1970 - it was a weird long day...because we were kids. We were tested often.

    We actually, thought it was for understanding how we learned English in 4 months ( we spoke 2 languages, prior).

  92. @Wilkey
    Disparity: the phenomenon that has the ability to automatically proves that racism exists, except for when magically it doesn’t, and you’re a racist for noticing that it does exist.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Anon

    We should all probably start examining word definitions.

    Equality and justice are not the same thing. We are being mentally lazy and coasting on nice-sounding clichés like “liberté, égalité and fraternité”. Loosing the language war means becoming morally disarmed.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
    @Anon

    Equality and justice are not the same thing?

    That is for certain: make either supreme, and the other is driven to the wall.

    Replies: @Negrolphin Pool

  93. @Thomm
    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks. Then again, the half-Jews should have only half-weight, and many further down the list are half-Jews. If weighted in this manner down the entire table, the weighted Jewish proportion probably falls from 33.25% to 27-28%.

    At any rate, most of the younger 'Jews' on the list are half-Jews, and most of the younger Jews and half-Jews are married to non-Jews, so the bigger theme is ongoing Jewish dilution, more than anything.

    This is a good time to point out that many of the anti-Jewish memes in the comments on this website have many logical flaws :

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the 'Jews are bad' wing of White Nationalism fails.
    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.


    Sincerely,
    -Mordecai 'Ira' Rabinowitz

    Replies: @Cido, @Emblematic, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Thomas, @Negrolphin Pool, @Franz, @Bill Jones, @Ian Smith, @Amerimutt Golems, @Lockean Proviso, @ben tillman, @stillCARealist, @Anon, @Anon, @jbwilson24

    The mechanics of organized Jewry has been explained here lots of times. You are either trolling or haven’t been paying attention.

    Back to the substantive, one in three tribalists and affiliates listed above are into modern money changing as in hedge funds, investments and private equity where unsavory norms are rife – see Stewart’s Den of Thieves.

    The next group clusters around technology which whose foundation was laid by goyim e.g Boolean algebra – see page 192 of Murray’s Human Accomplishment and also Weaving the Web: The Original Design and Ultimate Destiny of the World Wide Web by Berners-Lee.

    Then you have the entertainment category where Jewish tribalism is rampant. To be fair they at least deserve some credit for opportunistic tendencies.

    P/S:
    Vaunted Ashkenazi ‘genius’ comes with a mental health premium e.g J. Robert Oppenheimer allegedly tried to poison one of his tutors at the University of Cambridge. No wonder President Truman called him an SOB.

  94. https://www.rt.com/usa/495024-workers-protest-bezos-nyc-aoc/

    This is a funny news story regarding the number one on that list, it seems that his woke virtue signals are not sufficient to earn him protection from the masses.

  95. Only 35%?

    Practically the only way one can become a billionaire is by founding (or inheriting) a business that eventually becomes a publicly traded corporation, but the founder retains a very large percentage, or even a controlling interest, of the stock. So the money is always capital gains, not earned income.

    Thus in unstable stock markets the putative wealth of billionaires may vary dramatically. Note that Microsoft stock ten years ago was trading at around $25 and is now over $200, having doubled within the last 2 years, so think what that means to Bill Gates’s personal fortune, even though he has sold off (literally) billions of shares for his foundation.

    Of course, if people like Gates and Bezos decided to turn all their wealth to cash by selling all their shares in one day, they would crash the stock markets, destroy a great deal of their own wealth, and probably damage the dollar too.

    Getting started on the road to being a billionaire is a trick that is very hard to accomplish even if you have a great business idea. Being a drop out from Harvard seems to lend credibility in getting you started with the financiers, though.

    In the case of the Russian oligarchs a slightly different career path is in evidence, but in the end it comes down to owning huge amounts of stock in companies that have commandeered natural resources and assets in the era of privatization. Most of them seem to be Jews if having names like Abramovitch is any indication of Jewishness.

    Carlos Slim, the richest Mexican, is the child of Maronite Christians from Lebananon, so not Jewish, but I daresay there could be a few Jewish genes in that population spread around in motels on the road to Damascus or Beirut.

    You don’t have to be an Einstein to become a billionaire, but even if you are only an Epstein, it does no harm to carry that money making gene.

    Of course, once you have enough money or guaranteed income that you probably never have to work again, you have rough parity with being a billionaire compared to the vast majority of the huddled masses, so I suppose I am a billionaire-lite! (Disclosure: my grandmother was the daughter of a doctor in Aleppo, Syria, but I don’t think I have the money gene.)

  96. @Steve Sailer
    @Negrolphin Pool

    "depending on if Rupert Murdoch is half Jewish"

    My source deployed deep in the Australian Establishment says, "No, Rupert Murdoch is not half Jewish. I went to his purportedly Jewish mother's funeral. Brits have a long track record of being brilliant press barons."

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Jonathan Mason, @Reg Cæsar

    Brits have a long track record of being brilliant press barons.

    Like this old-world aristocratic toff, perhaps?

  97. @anonymous coward
    @Reg Cæsar

    The Beatles were an artificial homunculus, created from whole cloth by the usual suspects - a Jewish homosexual pedophile pervert.

    Talent or 'vigor' had nothing to do with it, a painted pig could have become a superstar in the 1960's; it was the short sweet spot of history when everybody had TV but nobody had immunity to its stupefying mind control.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    The Beatles were an artificial homunculus, created from whole cloth by the usual suspects – a Jewish homosexual pedophile pervert.

    I’ve always said they are the first boy band.

    • LOL: Chrisnonymous
  98. @Pop Warner
    All I can think about is how much wealthier Jeff Bezos would be if he didn't divorce his wife and put her at 15th on the list. He already has a fairly sizable lead over Gates and with the money he didn't lose in the divorce he would be in a league of his own.

    Replies: @Goddard

    Gates would be wealthier too, if he hadn’t given so much away.

  99. I’m curious as to whether there is much difference between the descendants of German Jews vs Shtetl Jews. Also whether Gilded Age German jewish families have done better than old WASP families in maintaining wealth and position. We need an American Greg Clark.

  100. @Mr McKenna
    Only 35%? Are they slipping? Also, let's do the major media companies now.

    Also, I'd swear that Bezos guy, no matter what anyone says. It's a vibe.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    When I was growing up, the saying was “It takes two Jews to keep one Greek in line.”

  101. @Hypnotoad666
    Here's a math "word problem" for anyone interested: Assume a mean IQ for Jews of around 112-115, a mean IQ for whites of around 100, and a SD for both of around 15.

    Under those assumptions, what IQ score would consist of 35% Jews and 65% whites? Based on the circumstantial evidence, I'm guessing that would also be the average IQ of American billionaires. (With possible adjustment for those who are self-made and those who inherited).

    Replies: @Lagertha, @anon, @Lot, @neutral, @anon

    Instead of IQ averages, check out the prevalence of sociopathy and psychopathy amongst the various groups. Its explains that list because for the modern day CEO the main requirements are neither hard work or intelligence, but rather the level of cut throat politics they are willing to resort to.

    • Agree: Just another serf
  102. An interesting article by the cancelled David Shor: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/david-shor-cancel-culture-2020-election-theory-polls.html

    In describing the Democrats’ troubles with non-college-educated white voters earlier, you put a lot of emphasis on discrete decisions that the Hillary Clinton campaign made. But, in my understanding, the 2016 election just accelerated a preexisting trend: In both the United States and Western Europe, non-college-educated voters have been drifting right for decades. Doesn’t that suggest that something larger than any given campaign’s messaging choices is at work here?

    That’s a great point. I used to spend a lot of time trying to figure out, you know, “Where did things go wrong?” You see Matt Stoller and Ryan Grim do this, where you try to pinpoint the moment in time when Democratic elites decided to turn their backs on the working class and embrace neoliberalism. Maybe it was the Watergate babies. Maybe it was the failure to repeal Taft-Hartley. Maybe it was Bill Clinton in 1992.

    But then you read about other countries and you see that the same story is happening everywhere. It happened in England with Tony Blair. It happened in Germany with Gerhard Schröder. The thing that really got me was reading about the history of PASOK, the Social Democratic Party in Greece. And you’re reading about an election in the 1990s where it’s like, “the right-wing New Democracy party made gains with working-class voters,” and you realize there are broader forces at work here.

    So why is this happening? The story that makes the most sense to me goes like this: In the postwar era, college-educated professionals were maybe 4 percent of the electorate. Which meant that basically no voters had remotely cosmopolitan values. But the flip side of this is that this educated 4 percent still ran the world. Both parties at this point were run by this highly educated, cosmopolitan minority that held a bunch of values that undergirded the postwar consensus, around democracy and rule of law, and all these things.

    Obviously, these people were more right wing on a bunch of social issues than their contemporary counterparts, but during that era, both parties were run by just about the most cosmopolitan segments of society. And there were also really strong gatekeepers. This small group of highly educated people not only controlled the commanding heights of both the left and the right, but also controlled the media. There were only a small number of TV stations — in other countries, those stations were even run by the government. And both sides knew it wasn’t electorally advantageous to campaign on cosmopolitan values.

    So, as a result, campaigns centered around this cosmopolitan elite’s internal disagreements over economic issues. But over the past 60 years, college graduates have gone from being 4 percent of the electorate to being more like 35. Now, it’s actually possible — for the first time ever in human history — for political parties to openly embrace cosmopolitan values and win elections; certainly primary and municipal elections, maybe even national elections if you don’t push things too far or if you have a recession at your back. And so Democratic elites started campaigning on the things they’d always wanted to, but which had previously been too toxic. And so did center-left parties internationally.

  103. Anon[224] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr McKenna
    Only 35%? Are they slipping? Also, let's do the major media companies now.

    Also, I'd swear that Bezos guy, no matter what anyone says. It's a vibe.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    I got that vibe too, his last name came from his Cuban stepdad, his mother looks Jewish:

    However, he grew up in TX and doesn’t seem to have much of any affinity to Israel. He also went to Princeton and studied CS and EE, two majors Jews tend to shy away from.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Anon

    I think they're more likely to be in those than Mechanical or civil Engineering.

    , @syonredux
    @Anon


    his mother looks Jewish:
     
    There's no evidence that his mother has any Jewish ancestry:

    Bezos was born Jeffrey Preston Jorgensen in Albuquerque, New Mexico, on January 12, 1964, the son of Jacklyn (née Gise) and Ted Jorgensen.[6] At the time of his birth, his mother was a 17-year-old high school student and his father was a bike shop owner.[7] After his parents divorced, his mother married Cuban immigrant Miguel "Mike" Bezos in April 1968.[8] Shortly after the wedding, Mike adopted four-year-old Jorgensen, whose surname was then changed to Bezos.[9] The family moved to Houston, Texas, where Mike worked as an engineer for Exxon after he received a degree from the University of New Mexico.[10] Bezos attended River Oaks Elementary School in Houston from fourth to sixth grade.[11] Bezos' maternal grandfather was Lawrence Preston Gise, a regional director of the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) in Albuquerque.[12] Gise retired early to his family's ranch near Cotulla, Texas, where Bezos would spend many summers in his youth.[10] Bezos would later purchase this ranch and expand it from 25,000 acres (10,117 ha) to 300,000 acres (121,406 ha).[13][14] His maternal grandmother was Mattie Louise Gise (née Strait), through whom he is a cousin of country singer George Strait.[15]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos

    Birth Name: Jeffrey Preston Jorgensen

    Place of Birth: Albuquerque, New Mexico, U.S.

    Date of Birth: January 12, 1964

    Ethnicity: Danish, German, English, Irish, 1/16th Swedish, distant Northern Irish, Scottish, Welsh

     


    Jeff is the son of Jacklyn (Gise) and Theodore John Jorgensen. His stepfather, Miguel “Mike” Bezos, is Cuban, and formally adopted Jeff. Jeff has four children with his former wife, novelist MacKenzie (Tuttle) Bezos.
     

    His maternal ancestors were settlers in Texas. Through his maternal grandmother, he is a second cousin, once removed, of country music singer George Strait. Jeff’s maternal great-great-grandparents, John Joseph Strait/Straight and Martha Eudora “Mattie” Kilgore, were also George’s paternal great-grandparents.

     


    Jeff’s paternal grandfather was Theodore John “Ted” Jorgensen (the son of John Jorgensen and Ida Minnie Birn). Theodore was born in Illinois. John was born in Holbæk, Holbæk Municipality, Region Zealand, Denmark, the son of Jørgen Søren Mortensen and Mette Marie Pedersdatter. Ida was also born in Denmark, the daughter of Frederik Theodor August “Theodore” Birn and Ida Christine “Minnie” Andersdottor, who was Swedish.
     

    Jeff’s paternal grandmother was Dolores Pollock (the daughter of Henry Dwight Pollock and Lillian Margaret DeWall). Dolores was born in Iowa. Henry was the son of Irish parents, Arthur Pollock and Lydia Nagle, who was from Cork. Lillian was the daughter of Hie “Heide” DeWall, who was German, and of Lena Cathryn Wolpert.

     


    Jeff’s maternal grandfather was Lawrence Preston Gise (the son of Lloyd Preston Gise and Rebecca Mabel/Mable Hall). Lawrence was born in Texas. Lloyd was the son of Daniel Kerlin Gise and Adeline/Adaline A. “Addie” Kearns. Rebecca was the daughter of Thomas King Hall and Henrietta Trammell.
     

    Jeff’s maternal grandmother was Mattie Louise Strait/Straight (the daughter of Yancy/Yancey Clarence Straight/Strait and Marie Vesper). Mattie was born in Texas. Yancy was the son of John Joseph Straight/Strait and Martha Eudora “Mattie” Kilgore. Marie was the daughter of Bernhardt Vesper and Frances Louise Bitter, who both had German ancestry.

     

    https://ethnicelebs.com/jeff-bezos

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @syonredux
    @Anon

    Bio data on Jeff Bezos' maternal grandfather:


    Daniel K. Gise
    BIRTH 3 Mar 1843
    Lebanon County, Pennsylvania, USA
    DEATH 1912 (aged 68–69)
    BURIAL
    Girard Cemetery
    Girard, Crawford County, Kansas, USA
     

    DANIEL K. GISE, senior member of the firm of D. K. Gise & Co., stands at the head of one of the important manufacturing interests of Joliet, operating a factory which turns out door hinges and other articles in this line. The office occupies No. 111, St. Louis Street, while the residence of Mr. Gise is located at No. 201, Sherman Street. Mr. Gise has been a resident of this county since 1868, and for the space of a dozen years has been associated with its leading interests. A native of Lebanon County, Pa., Mr. Gise was born March 3, 1843, and is the son of David B. Gise, a native of Newmanstown, that State. The latter was reared to manhood in his native State, and was there married to Miss Sarah Kerlin. The wife was of English descent, her progenitors settling in Pennsylvania at an early day. Both families were of eminent respectability and the male members largely millers by trade. The parents of our subject, when he was an infant of three months, removed to Center County, Pa., where the father followed milling and farming and where the mother died.
     

    In 1867, after the death of his wife, David Gise emigrated to Illinois with his family, settling south of Manhattan, in Wilson Township, this county, where he now lives. Daniel K. was reared to mature years in Center County, Pa., and after reaching manhood engaged in mercantile pursuits until coming to this county. He then purchased land in Manhattan Township, which he brought to a good state of cultivation, erecting thereon suitable farm buildings and where he resided until about 1872; then removing to Joliet he purchased a stock of goods and established himself on Washington Street, where he continued to do business until 1882. That year he sold out and, after an interval of rest, became interested in live stock in the West, which engaged his attention for a time, and he then established his present business which he has conducted about five years. He still retains possession of his farm property in Manhattan Township. Gise & Co. sell the product of their manufactory principally to the jobbing and retail trade, having men on the road at all times.
     

    Mr. Gise was married, February 10, 1870, in Mifflin County, Pa., to Miss Addie A. Kearns who was born in that county August 27, 1847. The parents of Mrs. Gise were Thomas and Mary (Settle) Kearns, natives of Pennsylvania and now deceased. Four children have been born to our subject and his good wife, these bearing the names respectively, of Ward K., Lloyd P., Buelah A. and Edith S.

     


    Mrs. Gise is a member in good standing of the Central Presbyterian Church. Mr. Gise gives his political support to the Democratic party but meddles very little with public affairs, preferring to devote his time and attention to his business interests and his family.
    - Portrait and Biographical Album of Will County, Illinois,
    1890
     
    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/95256690/daniel-k_-gise
  104. @Jack D
    @Lagertha

    Respectfully, an IQ of 203 is impossible. The frequency distribution of IQ 203 (over 6 SDs from the mean) is 1 in 11 billion and there are only 8 billion people on earth. The scoring on the most common IQ test (Weschler) tops out at 160. I don't know what kind of test they gave you but it wasn't a real IQ test.

    Replies: @Anonymouse, @The Alarmist, @Lagertha

    I have no idea what kind of IQ test I sat in 1947 when I was 13. I was told my score was 157, the next highest being classmate Donald Safford or Stafford who scored 141. I googled “New York City Board of Education IQ tests in the 1940s” but to no avail.

    • Replies: @Faraday's Bobcat
    @Anonymouse

    I scored 347 on an IQ test on a day when I was greatly distracted by the recent death of my Uncle Chesburn who had met his demise by falling down a sewer grating. Uncle Ches was very thin, you see. He survived the fall but was killed when he adhered to a large flocculation of restaurant grease and was swept into the raging current of the Little Kennecrank River after a spring freshet.

    The next closest score was that of Johnny von Neumann who assured me he got a 196. Sharp dresser, hell of an oboist, but never did amount to much.

  105. @Thomm
    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks. Then again, the half-Jews should have only half-weight, and many further down the list are half-Jews. If weighted in this manner down the entire table, the weighted Jewish proportion probably falls from 33.25% to 27-28%.

    At any rate, most of the younger 'Jews' on the list are half-Jews, and most of the younger Jews and half-Jews are married to non-Jews, so the bigger theme is ongoing Jewish dilution, more than anything.

    This is a good time to point out that many of the anti-Jewish memes in the comments on this website have many logical flaws :

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the 'Jews are bad' wing of White Nationalism fails.
    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.


    Sincerely,
    -Mordecai 'Ira' Rabinowitz

    Replies: @Cido, @Emblematic, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Thomas, @Negrolphin Pool, @Franz, @Bill Jones, @Ian Smith, @Amerimutt Golems, @Lockean Proviso, @ben tillman, @stillCARealist, @Anon, @Anon, @jbwilson24

    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?

    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.

    2) In addition to points made by others about Chinese racial difference, that might not be a problem going forward thanks to “antiracism” (i.e. self-hatred/xenophilia agitprop for white gentiles), as well as Zionist alliance with the CCP greasing the skids for favorable media coverage and film/TV treatment of our new Eastasia pals.

    As for Israel’s special edge in the scramble for American influence purchase, let’s not forget the importance of the Christian Zionist view embodied in the Scofield School of prophecy of Dispensationalism, an aberrant yet popular heresy funded and encouraged by Jewish Wall Street Zionists led by Samuel Untermeyer. Christian Zionism has done a lot of heavy lifting for Israel in domestic American politics,
    https://historicist.info/untermeyer/index.htm

    3) Let’s not also forget that whites were virtual slaves in Eastern Europe, and as serfs they were often overseen by Jewish middlemen between the gentile aristocracy and the gentile serfs.

  106. Anonymous[181] • Disclaimer says:

    Good to know that there is at least one bulwark among US whites who will push back against the newly arriving East and South Asians who seem to be of the conviction that they deserve a large slice of the pie despite having roots in most cases that extend less than half a century. I still can’t say though that I’m completely confident in the Jews given intermarriage rates and some semblance of a decline recently in superficial measures of academic performance. White Nationalists want to talk about Jewish brainwashing and subversion but ironically are convinced themselves to reject a plain fact that is directly seen with the eye, that Jews are white Europeans, in which they are in fact closest to Italians and Greeks, and unhesitatingly speak favorably about the Japanese and East Asians with whom they have even less in common culturally and genetically. It’s almost as if they have become the unaware victims of infiltration and the same things they accuse of Jews but by Asians intended so that they can hate some of the most successful members of their own race (Jews), and if that is not the case then they are still all the more pathetic considering they extol a people who didn’t even try gaining their favor and who mostly view whom as a weak and irrelevant fringe group if they think about them ever. Sad!

    • Replies: @Negrolphin Pool
    @Anonymous

    I would like to think of myself as visually sharp, but my Jewdar is consistently thwarted by what might be termed the (John) Tuturro Effect whereby pureblood Sicilians and other Southern Italians are mistaken for near-certain Jews.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Rob McX

  107. Ten percent of the total wealth of the billionaires on the list should cover Reparations for our black brethern nicely. Now. who do we get to start stirring the pot?

    • LOL: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Buffalo Joe

    But that windfall would only make things worse for blacks. It would be spent on bling, crack (or whatever the current drug happens to be) and deathtrap pimpmobiles. Pretty you'd need to be paying them reparations for having paid them reparations.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    , @Lagertha
    @Buffalo Joe

    yup, all these assholes who are anti-Trump, who are Silicon Valley billionaires and millionaires need to pay-up! BLM should surround their homes and ransom their children. This was so obvious....these same scoundrels brought this upon themselves. These people are why we have unequal pay and a caste system in this country - SV moguls and Wall St. are the rats that need to be thrown off the ship. Once they vote for Biden, or rig the system for him, they are so over! hahhahaaaaa. It won't be guilliotenes, but their heads and their kids' heads are gonna be cut off. - Revolutions and Riots have consequences.

    Replies: @Lagertha

  108. @Thomm
    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks. Then again, the half-Jews should have only half-weight, and many further down the list are half-Jews. If weighted in this manner down the entire table, the weighted Jewish proportion probably falls from 33.25% to 27-28%.

    At any rate, most of the younger 'Jews' on the list are half-Jews, and most of the younger Jews and half-Jews are married to non-Jews, so the bigger theme is ongoing Jewish dilution, more than anything.

    This is a good time to point out that many of the anti-Jewish memes in the comments on this website have many logical flaws :

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the 'Jews are bad' wing of White Nationalism fails.
    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.


    Sincerely,
    -Mordecai 'Ira' Rabinowitz

    Replies: @Cido, @Emblematic, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Thomas, @Negrolphin Pool, @Franz, @Bill Jones, @Ian Smith, @Amerimutt Golems, @Lockean Proviso, @ben tillman, @stillCARealist, @Anon, @Anon, @jbwilson24

    What a load of horseshit!

    It does not “appear” that Jews outperform gentile whites at all. Accumulating wealth is not what “performing” means.

    This is a good time to point out that many of the anti-Jewish memes in the comments on this website have many logical flaws :

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the ‘Jews are bad’ wing of White Nationalism fails.

    1. Being smart is not the only survival strategy of organisms. Intelligence is not the only characteristic that is relevant to survival. God, you’re a moron. The Jewish strategy against us is primarily one of out-grouping us.

    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.

    3. Blacks don’t say *anything* about gentile whites as such. Instead, the political posture of blacks vis-a-vis whites is much more similar to that of Jews vis-a-vis gentile whites. Both blacks and Jews insist that gentile whites may not be autonomous. Both blacks and Jews claim the right to forcibly capture gentile whites’ positive externalities. Moreover, even if the accusations were similar (and they are not), the notion that is impossible for one accusation to be true and the other to be false is mind-bogglingly stupid.

    Reference to “the small number if Jews:” is profoundly ignorant or mendacious. The Jewish strategy is for every gentile white person to be outnumbered by a factor of millions to one, and the strategy is wildly successful.

    • Agree: Lurker
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @ben tillman


    Jewish strategy is for every gentile white person to be outnumbered by a factor of millions to one, and the strategy is wildly successful.
     
    Millions, eh? There are something like 200 million white people in the America so to be outnumbered by a factor of even 1 million let alone millions would mean that we would need to bring in two trillion non-whites. But the entire world population is only .008 trillion so that's not going to work. Or alternatively, we could up the non-white population to 200 million and reduce the white population to 200 people. That would work but it's much too soon to declare that strategy wildly successful. It's going to take a really long time to get the white population of the US down to 200 people.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    , @botazefa
    @ben tillman


    Being smart is not the only survival strategy of organisms. Intelligence is not the only characteristic that is relevant to survival.
     
    Curious, what other human survival strategy isn't built by intelligence? Sex drive is the only thing I can think of, and that only gets a person so far.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    , @AnotherDad
    @ben tillman


    3. Blacks don’t say *anything* about gentile whites as such. Instead, the political posture of blacks vis-a-vis whites is much more similar to that of Jews vis-a-vis gentile whites. Both blacks and Jews insist that gentile whites may not be autonomous. Both blacks and Jews claim the right to forcibly capture gentile whites’ positive externalities.
     
    Ben, thanks for this. This is one of the clearest statements of the core issue/ideology. Super important to understand.

    The Jewish demand is that Jews have some sort of divine right to middle man anywhere and everywhere, and gentiles saying "No thanks, rather do it myself" is illegitimate--anti-Semitic!, evil, fascist, Nazi! Whining about "Pale of Settlement" or the Golfocaust or nationalists (i.e. Nazis!) or immigration restrictionists--it's all the same thing. White people are not entitled to build and enjoy their own stuff.

    And the weird thing is--Jews actually believe it! They've convinced themselves that Jews are simply entitled to access to whites and their stuff. Whites are evil if they resist.

    This is why we have lost our freedom of association. Why we've had a coup against our Constitution of republican government, federalism and individual liberty and had it replaced by this "Civil Rights" constitution--of endless government bullying. Why whites were chased out of the neighborhoods, but are j'accused of the crime of "white flight"! Why white kids were forced out of their neighborhood school and bused across town to a black one. Why Christians have to bake cakes for faggy weddings. Why we have mobs of rioters in our streets, why statues of white men must be toppled, why our history must be erased. And most importantly--why white nations must be flooded with foreigners.

    Important to note the Jewish ideology--minoritarianism--is not "we're all in this together". Jews are the great rejecters of Western Christian integration, marry-the-girl-next-door, one-peoplism in favor of maintaining their own tribalism. No, Jews (and ergo "minorities") are entitled to their tribalism, their own stuff, but gentiles are not. Whites and their stuff belong to everyone. There's no argument minoritarianism in morality or logic. Just sheer "what's good for the Jews" sociopathy.

    The Jewish demand is not "let my people go!" it is "you must let me in! you can not say 'no'". It is the ideology of the rapist.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

  109. @Jack D
    @Lagertha

    Respectfully, an IQ of 203 is impossible. The frequency distribution of IQ 203 (over 6 SDs from the mean) is 1 in 11 billion and there are only 8 billion people on earth. The scoring on the most common IQ test (Weschler) tops out at 160. I don't know what kind of test they gave you but it wasn't a real IQ test.

    Replies: @Anonymouse, @The Alarmist, @Lagertha

    Give it up dude, you’re arguing with a crazy person.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @The Alarmist

    I've been called worse. But, as far as world events, I have never been wrong! hahhaaa

  110. @Thomm
    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks. Then again, the half-Jews should have only half-weight, and many further down the list are half-Jews. If weighted in this manner down the entire table, the weighted Jewish proportion probably falls from 33.25% to 27-28%.

    At any rate, most of the younger 'Jews' on the list are half-Jews, and most of the younger Jews and half-Jews are married to non-Jews, so the bigger theme is ongoing Jewish dilution, more than anything.

    This is a good time to point out that many of the anti-Jewish memes in the comments on this website have many logical flaws :

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the 'Jews are bad' wing of White Nationalism fails.
    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.


    Sincerely,
    -Mordecai 'Ira' Rabinowitz

    Replies: @Cido, @Emblematic, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Thomas, @Negrolphin Pool, @Franz, @Bill Jones, @Ian Smith, @Amerimutt Golems, @Lockean Proviso, @ben tillman, @stillCARealist, @Anon, @Anon, @jbwilson24

    I do love Israel and want to love American Jews. Why are so many of them such commies?

    • Replies: @Lot
    @stillCARealist

    Progress is slow but steady:

    Trump won a majority of married Jewish men in 2016. He also won the Jewish parts of Brooklyn by landslide margins.

    Jews in UK block vote for the Conservative Party.

    Around 2005 Canadian Jews started voting for the conservative parties as much as other Canadian whites.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @SFG, @Ben tillman

    , @Abolish_public_education
    @stillCARealist

    The capitalists/communists hate the Jews because the Jews are communists/capitalists.

  111. Congrats to the Jews! What should we attribute their success to, clannishness, pushiness or unscrupulousness? All of the above?

  112. @Negrolphin Pool
    @Thomm


    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks.
     
    From what I've seen, this is simply not true. The median black family has only a small fraction of the median white family's wealth. While Jews are hugely overrepresented at the pinnacle of wealth accumulation, which is probably a good proxy for the total wealth under Jewish control, this does not imply that average Jews are dramatically outperforming average white gentiles. I believe the median Jewish net worth is perhaps only twice that of the median gentile white.

    This is a huge qualitative difference because, at that point, we are counting who has more cars in the garage rather than if they even have a roof over their head.


    The primary factors behind Jewish success in wealth accumulation are ethnic nepotism, including financial networking, and elevated business ruthlessness. Look at the background of NY slumlords. Look at the ethnic backgrounds of those involved in the notorious LBO corporate raiding of the 1980s. Jews tend to reduce business to war: hard-boiled mercenaries against, rather than in service of, the market. Or look at the shocking disproportion of the "white" perps featured on "American Greed" who happen to have Jewish surnames or obvious Jewface. There is little doubt that, on average, Jews have a less developed sense of fair play and have no compunction about employing that strength to their game-theoretic advantage.

    On the other hand, gentile whites are often deeply concerned with fairness in their business dealings and merit in who they hire, with nepotism of any kind, particularly ethnic, actively shunned. Are black Americans more like Jews in this respect or more like gentiles? That blacks aren't able to replicate the success of Jews despite having the key ingredients for Jewish-style competitive dominance only serves to highlight their shortcomings, which are mostly accounted for by critically lower average intelligence — you don't need great brains to get rich, nor can you easily hold stacks while dragging your knuckles — lower future orientation and an absence of whatever vital spark drives the entrepreneur to surmount any hurdle.


    Then again, the half-Jews should have only half-weight, and many further down the list are half-Jews. If weighted in this manner down the entire table, the weighted Jewish proportion probably falls from 33.25% to 27-28%.
     
    It also makes sense to adjust for familial dynastic wealth because the fortune of, for instance, the Waltons all comes from the same source. Even financially adept scions like the Koch brothers were born on third base. Only counting as one entry all scions from the same family would push the number of arguable Jews in the top 20 richest Americans to either 50 or 55 percent, depending on if Rupert Murdoch is half Jewish. This ignores weighting, but weighting by genetics is unlikely to matter all that much because the determining factor will be the extent to which the individuals identify as Jews as well as the extent to which they are identified as Jews by their coethnics.

    Taking 50 percent, this does represent an incredible skew towards Jewish domination among the very richest. A cumulative probability calculator gives the probability that a group representing 2 percent of a society ends up as half of its richest members by luck alone as being statistically zero. The actual probability is, I believe, something like one in 10 trillion.


    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the ‘Jews are bad’ wing of White Nationalism fails.
    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.
     
    1)Ethnic nepotism characterized by exclusionary financial networking. Also, no one claims that Jews control everything. They effectively control key areas that they leverage to conduct ethnic warfare.

    2)Many gentiles cannot identify Jews even by their surnames, much less their phyzz. No one would mistake a Chinaman for a roundeye. 2b) New York City has, by far, the most Jews of any single city. This is the result of America's historic amenability to Jewish infiltration, far more than Russia or EU.

    3)See above. Enslavement many generations ago plays zero role in the continuing dysfunction of blacks. It holds zero weight. You can't get weaker than zero.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jack D, @Corvinus, @Steve Sailer

    You are delusional about many things. Murdoch is in no way, shape or form Jewish.

    From personal experience, none of my (modest) wealth accumulation was aided by ethnic nepotism – in fact the opposite. The “business ruthlessness” that you speak of extends to the business relations between Jews and their fellow Jews, even their closest blood relatives. You can’t be ruthless and nepotistic at the same time – pick one.

    You also don’t understand how markets work. Mercenary in the context of business is a compliment, not an insult. When you operate your business on market principles (within the limits of the law), you are by definition acting in service of the market. In order to achieve the magical “Invisible Hand” effect, the participants in the market MUST go to war against it or markets won’t function – you’ll have something (a gentlemen’s club perhaps) but it won’t be a market. What happens with some businessmen (Jewish but also others) is that in their efforts to harvest the fruits of the market right up to the edge of the law they sometimes stray over the line and cross it. On a worldwide basis, compared to say the Chinese, the Jews are mere pikers in that regard.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Jack D


    You can’t be ruthless and nepotistic at the same time – pick one.
     
    Of course you can. You can be nepotistic with the in-group and ruthless with the outgroup. Even with ruthlessness, there can be degrees. You can be more ruthless with the out-group than with the in-group. Your assertion is a false dichotomy.

    Replies: @botazefa

    , @Negrolphin Pool
    @Jack D

    Charles Murray makes the point that CEO pay as measured by multiples of the average worker was dramatically lower even in the 1960s and '70s than it is today. He attributes this mostly to a shared sense among business leaders that price gouging their own companies would be unseemly. The invisible hand had visible limits.

    As the nation's economy financialized, this character was discarded in favor of insatiable rapacity. Now it's, as you say, how the markets work.

    To some, pointing out that a certain minority may have helped shape the rules of the game to its predilections, which now forces everyone to play accordingly or be crushed, is beyond the pale.

  113. @gabriel alberton
    Speaking of rich and "rich-adjacent'' people, isn't this an unusual death?

    Fahim Saleh, slain tech CEO, helped bring big tech to the developing world

    Saudi Arabia-born American immigrant entrepeneur, son of Bangladeshi parents, found dismembered in his Manhattan condo. New York Times reports it, but only in its "New York'' section, not (as of right now) on its front pageand not very prominently (currently it's given the same prominence as a story titled ''No Food? No Booze. Cuomo Cracks Down on Outdoor Drinking at Bars" and "It’s a Tough Time to Be a Street Musician With a 900-Pound Piano''.
    To the histrionics reading this, I'm not implying the NYT had a hand into his killing, directly or indirectly. But I thought crimes of that nature were very rare in that city, and it was commited against a POC immigrant. Yet they're seemingly not making that huge of a deal out of it.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    They just arrested his personal assistant, who also apparently was embezzling from the boss. With employees like that, who needs enemies?

    • Replies: @gabriel alberton
    @Known Fact

    What I will say is mere wild speculation, and should not be taken as fact in any way. But could it be remotely possible that the arrested assistant, who reportedly owed the dead man tens of thousands of dollars, felt emboldened by the recent "defund the police'' calls in New York City and that, in addition to his already present murderous tendencies, made him feel he could commit that crime and escape without being caught? That's not a given, but it could be looked into.

  114. New blilliant idea, make USA numba one!
    Put unqualified pogues with terrible qualities into the most demanding jobs the military has!
    Because diversity is more important than anything else!
    https://mwi.usma.edu/strategic-problem-army-doesnt-seem-care-african-americans-arent-branching-combat-arms/

  115. Anon[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm
    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks. Then again, the half-Jews should have only half-weight, and many further down the list are half-Jews. If weighted in this manner down the entire table, the weighted Jewish proportion probably falls from 33.25% to 27-28%.

    At any rate, most of the younger 'Jews' on the list are half-Jews, and most of the younger Jews and half-Jews are married to non-Jews, so the bigger theme is ongoing Jewish dilution, more than anything.

    This is a good time to point out that many of the anti-Jewish memes in the comments on this website have many logical flaws :

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the 'Jews are bad' wing of White Nationalism fails.
    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.


    Sincerely,
    -Mordecai 'Ira' Rabinowitz

    Replies: @Cido, @Emblematic, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Thomas, @Negrolphin Pool, @Franz, @Bill Jones, @Ian Smith, @Amerimutt Golems, @Lockean Proviso, @ben tillman, @stillCARealist, @Anon, @Anon, @jbwilson24

    1) WN do not always deny Jewish intelligence. But psychological stability and aggression/competitiveness also boosts Jewish performance (a.k.a. general factor of personality). White gentiles are in a really bad place psychologically right now. Jewish success is one part IQ, one part personality. Networking probably also helps, and it probably also helps with the personality and psychological health.
    2) China probably can’t have as much power in the US government because there are not as many Chinese who are so deeply ingrained in the top levels of society, and because there is a pretty good deal of anti-China sentiment. If there were, and if they had the will, they might be able to have influence.
    Israel also has influence because they have sympathy from whites due to the history of pogroms. So they are able to hack the guilt.
    Indians are able to exert lots of power in Britain because they are very ingrained. It is not just Jews who can do this.
    3) WN complaints of Jews are clearly different from black people’s complaints about whites. The only similarity is that both complain, which probably provokes the same emotional reaction in you, which is why you think it is the same thing, when it is not.

  116. Here is an interesting episode of Bret Weinstein’s podcast. I love Glenn he is always worth listening to. With no fear they face and discuss the racial disparity in crime rates. What is interesting specifically related to this thread is Bret’s strange formation of economic disparity as hoarded good luck that causes the black community to have an artificially high level of bad luck. I would note that just as it is true that black crime rates are higher, it is also true that Bret’s own tribe has a higher rate of representation in that group doing the hoarding of good luck (Strange that he does not acknowledge that).

    I would have it that we need to hold all elite “hoarders of good luck” accountable for their loyalty to their fellow US citizens. Some have been, but they are rare and i would suggest perhaps not equally distributed.

    Group mean impacts tail density at given thresholds but does not imply a restricted tail and outliers exist everyone should be evaluated as an individual.

    I believe that basic human rights and human dignity derive from our shared humanity, not from uniformity in ability or genetic makeup

    • Replies: @anon
    @BobX

    Dude, it's effectively 2 hours long. Maybe that's fine for you but some of us have a few time constraints. If there's something special in there, point to it in hours:minutes because 2 hours of basically someone else's Zoom conference I'm not getting paid to view or participate in... is just too much.

  117. @ben tillman
    @Thomm

    What a load of horseshit!

    It does not "appear" that Jews outperform gentile whites at all. Accumulating wealth is not what "performing" means.


    This is a good time to point out that many of the anti-Jewish memes in the comments on this website have many logical flaws :

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the ‘Jews are bad’ wing of White Nationalism fails.
     

    1. Being smart is not the only survival strategy of organisms. Intelligence is not the only characteristic that is relevant to survival. God, you're a moron. The Jewish strategy against us is primarily one of out-grouping us.

    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.
     
    3. Blacks don't say *anything* about gentile whites as such. Instead, the political posture of blacks vis-a-vis whites is much more similar to that of Jews vis-a-vis gentile whites. Both blacks and Jews insist that gentile whites may not be autonomous. Both blacks and Jews claim the right to forcibly capture gentile whites' positive externalities. Moreover, even if the accusations were similar (and they are not), the notion that is impossible for one accusation to be true and the other to be false is mind-bogglingly stupid.

    Reference to "the small number if Jews:" is profoundly ignorant or mendacious. The Jewish strategy is for every gentile white person to be outnumbered by a factor of millions to one, and the strategy is wildly successful.

    Replies: @Jack D, @botazefa, @AnotherDad

    Jewish strategy is for every gentile white person to be outnumbered by a factor of millions to one, and the strategy is wildly successful.

    Millions, eh? There are something like 200 million white people in the America so to be outnumbered by a factor of even 1 million let alone millions would mean that we would need to bring in two trillion non-whites. But the entire world population is only .008 trillion so that’s not going to work. Or alternatively, we could up the non-white population to 200 million and reduce the white population to 200 people. That would work but it’s much too soon to declare that strategy wildly successful. It’s going to take a really long time to get the white population of the US down to 200 people.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Jack D


    Millions, eh? There are something like 200 million white people in the America so to be outnumbered by a factor of even 1 million let alone millions would mean that we would need to bring in two trillion non-whites. But the entire world population is only .008 trillion so that’s not going to work. Or alternatively, we could up the non-white population to 200 million and reduce the white population to 200 people.
     
    Stop being facetious.

    The lower bound of "millions" is two million. Thus, the number of Jews needed for each white person to be outnumbered by millions to one is two million.

    The strategy is to disassociate and ultimately atomize competing populations so that in any encounter a dissenter goes it alone against an assembly of millions.

  118. @Just another serf
    It’s because their families have this dedication to education.

    I’ll give you an example. Many of us have over these nearly 20 years of security restricted air travel, have thought, there must be a better way. There must be something that can be done to move people efficiently through this security maze.

    Then came a Jewish woman, name of Caryn Seidman Becker. She created a company called Clear, that will move you lickety-split through the TSA cluster-f**k.

    What made this profitable breakthrough possible for Caryn Seidman Becker, was her family’s tradition of hard work. Honestly, there were millions of non-Jews trying to crack this TSA nut. All failed.

    Replies: @peterike, @Reg Cæsar

    Then came a Jewish woman, name of Caryn Seidman Becker. She created a company called Clear, that will move you lickety-split through the TSA cluster-f**k.

    Ummmm, not exactly.

    Clear isn’t exactly new. The New York–based company has been around for several years, but was bought out of bankruptcy—and brought back to relevance—in 2010 by Caryn Seidman-Becker, Clear’s now-chairman and CEO. Thanks to the addition of major hubs around the U.S., from Miami to Seattle, and the backing of Delta—which bought a five percent stake in the company in April 2016—the service has reached more than 1.5 million members, and now has a presence in 35 sports stadiums and airports across the country.

    She didn’t invent anything but rather used her typical Jewish powers — financialization, deal-making, and marketing — to turn Clear into a success.

  119. @Anonymous
    Some of the fortunes here should be counted once. Like the Walmart and Mars fortunes that have been spread among several family members, Bezos's ex-wife, etc.

    If you do, it removes at least 13 spots on this list and means that 35 of the top 87 US billionaires are Jewish. The percentage goes up from 35% to 40%.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous, @Russ

    Real estate developer and sports team owner Stan Kroenke is often described as Jewish, but he is described in Wikipedia as “He is of German descent and was raised Lutheran,” which seems plausible: he grew up in rural Missouri. Other than being good at making money, his life seems pretty thoroughly gentile: he owns huge ranches, he’s into hunting, and he married a Walmart heiress.

    Kroenke is Sedalia MO-born and a Univ of Missouri product; I don’t believe him to be in said club. His “goodness” at making money entailed wedding the WalMart heiress in college, building strip malls whose anchor tenants were WalMarts, and buying into and eventually winning control of an NFL team. Risk-minimized wealth accrual, to be sure. Wonder how the efforts to sell Personal Seat Licenses in a new stadium during a pandemic is proceeding?

  120. @ben tillman
    @Thomm

    What a load of horseshit!

    It does not "appear" that Jews outperform gentile whites at all. Accumulating wealth is not what "performing" means.


    This is a good time to point out that many of the anti-Jewish memes in the comments on this website have many logical flaws :

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the ‘Jews are bad’ wing of White Nationalism fails.
     

    1. Being smart is not the only survival strategy of organisms. Intelligence is not the only characteristic that is relevant to survival. God, you're a moron. The Jewish strategy against us is primarily one of out-grouping us.

    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.
     
    3. Blacks don't say *anything* about gentile whites as such. Instead, the political posture of blacks vis-a-vis whites is much more similar to that of Jews vis-a-vis gentile whites. Both blacks and Jews insist that gentile whites may not be autonomous. Both blacks and Jews claim the right to forcibly capture gentile whites' positive externalities. Moreover, even if the accusations were similar (and they are not), the notion that is impossible for one accusation to be true and the other to be false is mind-bogglingly stupid.

    Reference to "the small number if Jews:" is profoundly ignorant or mendacious. The Jewish strategy is for every gentile white person to be outnumbered by a factor of millions to one, and the strategy is wildly successful.

    Replies: @Jack D, @botazefa, @AnotherDad

    Being smart is not the only survival strategy of organisms. Intelligence is not the only characteristic that is relevant to survival.

    Curious, what other human survival strategy isn’t built by intelligence? Sex drive is the only thing I can think of, and that only gets a person so far.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @botazefa

    Strategy is a misnomer. For survival, more important are optimism, will to live, meaning of life, motivation, ....

    As Albert Schweitzer had said: Happiness is nothing more than good health and a bad memory.

  121. @Steve Sailer
    @Dan Hayes

    Jews are usually quite interested in who is Jewish.

    Replies: @syonredux, @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan, @Ron Mexico

    They keep track of who is part of the Tribe.

    Hanukkah Song, Adam Sandler

    “David Lee Roth lights the Menorah
    So does James Caan, Kirk Douglas and the late Dina Shore-ah
    Guess who eats together at the Carnegie Deli?
    Bowzer from Sha Na Na and Arthur Fonzerelli
    Paul Newman’s half Jewish, Goldie Hawn’s half too
    Put them together, what a fine looking Jew!
    You don’t need “Deck the Halls” or “Jingle Bell Rock”
    Cause you can spin a dreidel with Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock (both Jewish!)
    Put on your yarmulke
    Its time for Hanukkah
    The owner of the Seattle Supersonic-ahs
    Celebrates Hanukkah
    O.J. Simpson: not a Jew
    But guess who is?: Hall-of-famer Rod Carew (he converted)
    We got Ann Landers and her sister Dear Abby
    Harrison Ford’s a quarter Jewish – not too shabby!”

    • Replies: @Roderick Spode
    @Ron Mexico

    "Bruce Springsteen isn't Jewish
    But my mother thinks he is."

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @danand
    @Ron Mexico


    “They keep track of who is part of the Tribe.”
     
    Good on them, group/tribe cohesion, support, mentoring, and defending is necessary if it’s members are going to thrive. Unfortunately for many there is an instinctive (genetic) desire to make it as “lone eagles”; but in a world bristling with grouped poachers, that instinct makes prospects for survival precarious.

    “Seattle City council member Lisa Herbold suggests firing white officers in massive reduction of police.”

    https://flic.kr/p/2jn7tWU

    “Hanukkah Song, Adam Sandler.”
     
    https://youtu.be/qUCNAnp2QAI
  122. @Thomas
    @Thomm


    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the ‘Jews are bad’ wing of White Nationalism fails.
     
    High-trust/high-performance culture meets low-trust/high-performance culture. Throw some of the genetics on COMT and MAOA alleles if you really want to go down a rabbit hole.

    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
     
    Relative cultural and racial distance, first-mover advantage, and the time it takes to develop a well-placed elite with ties to the mother country. China was a backwards Communist country that had destroyed its own culture and economy twice over after WWII until the 1970s. They certainly are trying to make up for lost time in the influence racket. Israel can't manipulate Russia because Russia is ruled by authoritarians of its own racial stock, rather than being a democracy whose population can be manipulated by media, culture and education. Europe's Jews were eliminated by WWII and its aftermath, and its multitude of countries, languages, and media environments are harder to collectively manipulate than a vast, monolingual country with a national financial and media market and a fixed two-party political system.

    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.
     
    Not even close to the same situation. Blacks are a minority that was forced to live as a subordinate racial caste amidst a majority (for now) that has measurable average intellectual and socioeconomic advantages over them. Their situation was going to be objectively lousy no matter what, without any conspiracy or hegemony needed to explain it.

    There are so very, very many examples of ruling dynasties made up of alien minorities throughout history that to treat the existence of one as dubious is either very ignorant or is in bad faith. Many of the dynasties that have ruled China over the past 1,800 years were dominated by non-Han Chinese. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_dynasty)

    In Western history, Britain was ruled by a succession of invaders (Celts, Romans, Angles, Saxons, Danes, and French). Classical Greece was dominated by a series of individual hegemonic minority powers in turn (Athens, Sparta, Thebes and Macedon). Rome dominated an empire in which the majority of those who lived in it were not citizens. The idea of majority democratic rule as the norm in the world, as opposed to some sort of minoritarian rule by an elite, is hardly even a century old.

    And even in modern times, if you want to find examples of dominant minority ethnic groups, you can look at, to cite a few examples, Overseas Chinese in Southeast Asia, Afrikaners in South Africa, Sunni Arabs in Ba'athist Iraq, Alawites in Syria, Tutsis in Rwanda, Indians in East Africa, or Lebanese in Latin America.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Anon, @Nico

    Thomas, thanks for wading through Thomm’s brief.

    There’s always a bunch of stuff in critiques like this where you just think “intelligent people understand this stuff … do i really have to write a bunch of paragraphs to make clear the obvious counter points”.

    You did a first rate job with it. Thanks.

  123. @Lot
    All of the top 50 I know to be open Trump supporters are Jewish: Schwarzman, Adelson, Koum, Ichan.

    Am I missing anyone? Maybe the Waltons?

    Ray Dalio was mildly pro-Trump the first year, then “soured” on him according to one article.

    Replies: @Not Only Wrathful, @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon

    All of the top 50 I know to be open Trump supporters are Jewish: Schwarzman, Adelson, Koum, Ichan.

    Adelson isn’t a Trump supporter. Trump is an Adelson supporter.

    • LOL: Negrolphin Pool
    • Replies: @SFG
    @Mr. Anon

    While that might be true for any other Republican (remember the Adelson primary?), I find it very hard to believe Trump is interested in anyone other than Trump.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  124. @Mr McKenna
    Only 35%? Are they slipping? Also, let's do the major media companies now.

    Also, I'd swear that Bezos guy, no matter what anyone says. It's a vibe.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    Also, I’d swear that Bezos guy, no matter what anyone says. It’s a vibe.

    Besos. According to the autocorrect on his own Kindle devices. Thus it must be!

    That aside, he’s a certified squarehead with a beaner surname from his stepdad. His middle name is the same as Ron Reagan’s and George P Bush’s. Very creepy.

    (Kelly [RIP] wasn’t a real Preston. She was born in the same city as Nicole Kidman and Barack Obama, though, and all of them were taken to the Southern Hemisphere for part of their childhood. All very creepy.)

  125. @Steve Sailer
    @Negrolphin Pool

    "depending on if Rupert Murdoch is half Jewish"

    My source deployed deep in the Australian Establishment says, "No, Rupert Murdoch is not half Jewish. I went to his purportedly Jewish mother's funeral. Brits have a long track record of being brilliant press barons."

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Jonathan Mason, @Reg Cæsar

    Scots control banking in the Southern Hemisphere. One of their Antipodean institutions bought my old employer and everything got tighter and tighter.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    They definitely did Hong Kong traditionally, that will change obviously. HSBC being the big boy there.

    Always been big in the banks but more in Canada than Australia.

  126. @Jack D
    @Negrolphin Pool

    You are delusional about many things. Murdoch is in no way, shape or form Jewish.

    From personal experience, none of my (modest) wealth accumulation was aided by ethnic nepotism - in fact the opposite. The "business ruthlessness" that you speak of extends to the business relations between Jews and their fellow Jews, even their closest blood relatives. You can't be ruthless and nepotistic at the same time - pick one.

    You also don't understand how markets work. Mercenary in the context of business is a compliment, not an insult. When you operate your business on market principles (within the limits of the law), you are by definition acting in service of the market. In order to achieve the magical "Invisible Hand" effect, the participants in the market MUST go to war against it or markets won't function - you'll have something (a gentlemen's club perhaps) but it won't be a market. What happens with some businessmen (Jewish but also others) is that in their efforts to harvest the fruits of the market right up to the edge of the law they sometimes stray over the line and cross it. On a worldwide basis, compared to say the Chinese, the Jews are mere pikers in that regard.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Negrolphin Pool

    You can’t be ruthless and nepotistic at the same time – pick one.

    Of course you can. You can be nepotistic with the in-group and ruthless with the outgroup. Even with ruthlessness, there can be degrees. You can be more ruthless with the out-group than with the in-group. Your assertion is a false dichotomy.

    • Replies: @botazefa
    @Mr. Anon


    You can’t be ruthless and nepotistic at the same time – pick one.

    You can be nepotistic with the in-group and ruthless with the outgroup
     

     
    Not ruthless, but definitely discerning. Ruthlessness has no room for buddying up to tribalism. At least, that's how I see it.
  127. @RichardTaylor
    Doesn't seem like the Jewish fields of business are as beneficial to the country as the others. But maybe not. Obviously, a few are.

    The media always used to hate oil & gas industry so much ... I guess they still do. Could that be because it was a strong base of power for White Gentiles and not so much for Jews?

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Doesn’t seem like the Jewish fields of business are as beneficial to the country as the others. But maybe not. Obviously, a few are.

    The media always used to hate oil & gas industry so much … I guess they still do. Could that be because it was a strong base of power for White Gentiles and not so much for Jews?

    Correct.

    Jews are wealthy–historically and in the US–by doing middle manning on top of the prosperity created in white nations.

    Beyond FIRE, most of these Jewish fortunes are just Jews being better businessmen–clawing their way to the top– in a big rich white nation. You #1 in America, you’re rich. Several of them in b.s. business–gambling, movies, sports–the circuses part of “bread and circuses” or traditional Jewish scams–liquor. There isn’t anything interesting, innovative or productive in any of this, it’s just the age old “how do we get money from the gentiles”.

    Even in a Jewish standard–retail trade–the actual innovators who’ve made productive enhancements are two gentiles–Sam Walton and Jeff Bezos.

    Tech’s a bit different. Jewish IQ maps a bit more directly onto technical success, which then dovetails with Jewish cultural business acumen/networking. It’s “innovation” of a sort, but mostly just hustling a little faster than the competition–.e.g. Facebook, Google–without much actual value. You look at actual innovation–made things better–not so impressive.

    If you look through the list, you can see that if none of those Jewish businesses/fortunes existed … you would not lose very much. Only a few look to be anything productive. Mostly they’ve done well but just collecting a rent on America. The gentile businesses/fortunes there are a much greater number that are innovative and material productive–they’ve actually made Americans lives better, made America more prosperous.

    It’s a replay of the general historical pattern.

    • Agree: James Speaks, 3g4me
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @AnotherDad


    mostly just hustling a little faster than the competition–.e.g. Facebook, Google–without much actual value.
     
    You must have some funny definition of "value" that does not actually mean "value" as in money. Just as distance is measured in miles, value is measured in dollars (e.g. "the value of this car is $30,000") and so if you have many dollars by definition you have created a lot of value. If you say that they have X billions of $ that they were not born with but have not created any value it's the same as me saying that NY and London are 3,000 miles apart but there is no distance between them.

    Maybe you mean something like "merit" rather than value but while value is easy to measure (just check their bank balance), merit is completely subjective. You might see having a system for searching the internet or communicating with your friends online as having little "value" (really merit) or being only slightly better than competing systems but the market begs to differ and the market is by definition right when it comes to value. Personally I found Google's search system to be quite valuable and adopted it as my search engine quite early while I really never had any use for Facebook or any of its competitors, but that's just me and don't pretend that I am a better judge of value than the market.

    Replies: @Old Palo Altan, @Hibernian

  128. @Jack D
    @Negrolphin Pool

    You are delusional about many things. Murdoch is in no way, shape or form Jewish.

    From personal experience, none of my (modest) wealth accumulation was aided by ethnic nepotism - in fact the opposite. The "business ruthlessness" that you speak of extends to the business relations between Jews and their fellow Jews, even their closest blood relatives. You can't be ruthless and nepotistic at the same time - pick one.

    You also don't understand how markets work. Mercenary in the context of business is a compliment, not an insult. When you operate your business on market principles (within the limits of the law), you are by definition acting in service of the market. In order to achieve the magical "Invisible Hand" effect, the participants in the market MUST go to war against it or markets won't function - you'll have something (a gentlemen's club perhaps) but it won't be a market. What happens with some businessmen (Jewish but also others) is that in their efforts to harvest the fruits of the market right up to the edge of the law they sometimes stray over the line and cross it. On a worldwide basis, compared to say the Chinese, the Jews are mere pikers in that regard.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Negrolphin Pool

    Charles Murray makes the point that CEO pay as measured by multiples of the average worker was dramatically lower even in the 1960s and ’70s than it is today. He attributes this mostly to a shared sense among business leaders that price gouging their own companies would be unseemly. The invisible hand had visible limits.

    As the nation’s economy financialized, this character was discarded in favor of insatiable rapacity. Now it’s, as you say, how the markets work.

    To some, pointing out that a certain minority may have helped shape the rules of the game to its predilections, which now forces everyone to play accordingly or be crushed, is beyond the pale.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  129. @AnotherDad
    @Thomm


    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks.
     
    Thomm, i realize you're doing your usual butthurt trolling, but it's an interesting topic. I'll take a poke.

    Short answer: No. The gaps are not the same.

    Measures of income and wealth in America for any group are all taking place in the context of the peace, prosperity and opportunity created and maintained--at least until recently--by white Americans.

    Gaps between racial and ethnic groups involve both questions of quantity and quality.

    If you had an America populated solely by Jews (Ashkenazim) versus one populated solely by white gentiles, the Jewish nation would outperform the white one on measures of innovation--e.g. patents, Nobel Prizes, etc.--by something like 10-1. It would be more economically prosperous. Probably something like Switzerland vs. Portugal.

    But ... the white gentile America would not suck. In fact, it would be pretty darn awesome. Jews are smarter, but they have the middle-man personality package. They have not figured out any new/better social organization. In fact their core organization--tribalism and a tribal ("We're God's chosen people")--is decidedly more primitive compared to what whites--high affective empathy, high trust at scale--and arguably others have developed.

    (If you had an America full of white gentiles with a normal IQ distribution matching the Jewish mean--maybe 112ish--and SD, most people would find that white nation a more pleasant place. Whites throw a great nation.)

    In contrast, the all black America ... would suck. It would be Africa. The difference in quantity of talent and the difference in personality would result in fundamental difference in quality. It would simply be something quite different ... and fundamentally inferior from the perspective of civilization.

    ~

    Simplest summary:

    Jews are smarter, but not better people than whites.

    Whites are smarter and better people than blacks.

    Replies: @TelfoedJohn, @Corvinus, @Ian M.

    “Measures of income and wealth in America for any group are all taking place in the context of the peace, prosperity and opportunity created and maintained–at least until recently–by white Americans.”

    You mean by Americans regardless of race and ethnicity.

    “Jews are smarter, but not better people than whites. Whites are smarter and better people than blacks.”

    Which is an opinion, not fact.

  130. “So, only 0.75% of the Forbes 400 are black”

    Isn’t that disparate impact? The government should fix this..

  131. @Negrolphin Pool
    @Thomm


    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks.
     
    From what I've seen, this is simply not true. The median black family has only a small fraction of the median white family's wealth. While Jews are hugely overrepresented at the pinnacle of wealth accumulation, which is probably a good proxy for the total wealth under Jewish control, this does not imply that average Jews are dramatically outperforming average white gentiles. I believe the median Jewish net worth is perhaps only twice that of the median gentile white.

    This is a huge qualitative difference because, at that point, we are counting who has more cars in the garage rather than if they even have a roof over their head.


    The primary factors behind Jewish success in wealth accumulation are ethnic nepotism, including financial networking, and elevated business ruthlessness. Look at the background of NY slumlords. Look at the ethnic backgrounds of those involved in the notorious LBO corporate raiding of the 1980s. Jews tend to reduce business to war: hard-boiled mercenaries against, rather than in service of, the market. Or look at the shocking disproportion of the "white" perps featured on "American Greed" who happen to have Jewish surnames or obvious Jewface. There is little doubt that, on average, Jews have a less developed sense of fair play and have no compunction about employing that strength to their game-theoretic advantage.

    On the other hand, gentile whites are often deeply concerned with fairness in their business dealings and merit in who they hire, with nepotism of any kind, particularly ethnic, actively shunned. Are black Americans more like Jews in this respect or more like gentiles? That blacks aren't able to replicate the success of Jews despite having the key ingredients for Jewish-style competitive dominance only serves to highlight their shortcomings, which are mostly accounted for by critically lower average intelligence — you don't need great brains to get rich, nor can you easily hold stacks while dragging your knuckles — lower future orientation and an absence of whatever vital spark drives the entrepreneur to surmount any hurdle.


    Then again, the half-Jews should have only half-weight, and many further down the list are half-Jews. If weighted in this manner down the entire table, the weighted Jewish proportion probably falls from 33.25% to 27-28%.
     
    It also makes sense to adjust for familial dynastic wealth because the fortune of, for instance, the Waltons all comes from the same source. Even financially adept scions like the Koch brothers were born on third base. Only counting as one entry all scions from the same family would push the number of arguable Jews in the top 20 richest Americans to either 50 or 55 percent, depending on if Rupert Murdoch is half Jewish. This ignores weighting, but weighting by genetics is unlikely to matter all that much because the determining factor will be the extent to which the individuals identify as Jews as well as the extent to which they are identified as Jews by their coethnics.

    Taking 50 percent, this does represent an incredible skew towards Jewish domination among the very richest. A cumulative probability calculator gives the probability that a group representing 2 percent of a society ends up as half of its richest members by luck alone as being statistically zero. The actual probability is, I believe, something like one in 10 trillion.


    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the ‘Jews are bad’ wing of White Nationalism fails.
    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.
     
    1)Ethnic nepotism characterized by exclusionary financial networking. Also, no one claims that Jews control everything. They effectively control key areas that they leverage to conduct ethnic warfare.

    2)Many gentiles cannot identify Jews even by their surnames, much less their phyzz. No one would mistake a Chinaman for a roundeye. 2b) New York City has, by far, the most Jews of any single city. This is the result of America's historic amenability to Jewish infiltration, far more than Russia or EU.

    3)See above. Enslavement many generations ago plays zero role in the continuing dysfunction of blacks. It holds zero weight. You can't get weaker than zero.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jack D, @Corvinus, @Steve Sailer

    “The primary factors behind Jewish success in wealth accumulation are ethnic nepotism, including financial networking, and elevated business ruthlessness.”

    You mean behind Jewish and non-Jewish success. In other words, a capitalist on steroids.

    “On the other hand, gentile whites are often deeply concerned with fairness in their business dealings and merit in who they hire, with nepotism of any kind, particularly ethnic, actively shunned.”

    You mean like Carnegie, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, Sam Walton, and Fred C. Koch?

  132. @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    But being descended from the Democratic candidate for President in 1920 and inheriting giant fortunes seems like a good example of Privilege.
     
    If one of their scions marries a child of Mark and Priscilla, would we talk of the "Cox-Zuckerberg fortune"?

    Replies: @FD

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @FD


    Mathematicians beat you to it.
     
    Figures. Not the first time they've had my number.


    All the mathematicians I've known have been unparalleled. Otherwise, we'd have never met.

    That's the plane truth.


    (Sorry. I'm the sort of guy who finds the likes of Eugenia Cheng, Holly Krieger, and Kelsey Houston-Edwards adorable.)
  133. @Lot
    @Hypnotoad666

    Griffe du Lion has long articles about these types of topics you may be interested in.

    Quick answer with some simple assumptions: about 155. If you worked it out more carefully it would be within 2 points of this.

    “ the average IQ of American billionaires”

    Maybe the self made ones.

    Replies: @Lot

    Made a dumb mistake above because I was doing math after midnight.

    The answer is 151 using 200m non-AJ whites, 6mil AJ whites, means of 100 and 115, SD of 15.

    Or maybe I made another mistake, this isn’t Derb’s blog bro.

  134. @AnotherDad
    @RichardTaylor


    Doesn’t seem like the Jewish fields of business are as beneficial to the country as the others. But maybe not. Obviously, a few are.

    The media always used to hate oil & gas industry so much … I guess they still do. Could that be because it was a strong base of power for White Gentiles and not so much for Jews?
     
    Correct.

    Jews are wealthy--historically and in the US--by doing middle manning on top of the prosperity created in white nations.

    Beyond FIRE, most of these Jewish fortunes are just Jews being better businessmen--clawing their way to the top-- in a big rich white nation. You #1 in America, you're rich. Several of them in b.s. business--gambling, movies, sports--the circuses part of "bread and circuses" or traditional Jewish scams--liquor. There isn't anything interesting, innovative or productive in any of this, it's just the age old "how do we get money from the gentiles".

    Even in a Jewish standard--retail trade--the actual innovators who've made productive enhancements are two gentiles--Sam Walton and Jeff Bezos.

    Tech's a bit different. Jewish IQ maps a bit more directly onto technical success, which then dovetails with Jewish cultural business acumen/networking. It's "innovation" of a sort, but mostly just hustling a little faster than the competition--.e.g. Facebook, Google--without much actual value. You look at actual innovation--made things better--not so impressive.

    If you look through the list, you can see that if none of those Jewish businesses/fortunes existed ... you would not lose very much. Only a few look to be anything productive. Mostly they've done well but just collecting a rent on America. The gentile businesses/fortunes there are a much greater number that are innovative and material productive--they've actually made Americans lives better, made America more prosperous.

    It's a replay of the general historical pattern.

    Replies: @Jack D

    mostly just hustling a little faster than the competition–.e.g. Facebook, Google–without much actual value.

    You must have some funny definition of “value” that does not actually mean “value” as in money. Just as distance is measured in miles, value is measured in dollars (e.g. “the value of this car is $30,000”) and so if you have many dollars by definition you have created a lot of value. If you say that they have X billions of $ that they were not born with but have not created any value it’s the same as me saying that NY and London are 3,000 miles apart but there is no distance between them.

    Maybe you mean something like “merit” rather than value but while value is easy to measure (just check their bank balance), merit is completely subjective. You might see having a system for searching the internet or communicating with your friends online as having little “value” (really merit) or being only slightly better than competing systems but the market begs to differ and the market is by definition right when it comes to value. Personally I found Google’s search system to be quite valuable and adopted it as my search engine quite early while I really never had any use for Facebook or any of its competitors, but that’s just me and don’t pretend that I am a better judge of value than the market.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
    @Jack D

    Raise your hand all of you who, like me, started using Google as their search engine when it was still based in somebody's garage near Palo Alto. I remember clicking on a link which showed their operations humming away inside it. And their first Google street views were of Palo Alto, so, with deep and entranced nostalgia, I walked myself from primary school on Channing via the library on Newell to home on Hamilton.

    I loved them for all that back then; rather less so now.

    , @Hibernian
    @Jack D

    In about 1999 I found a search engine called Northern Light superior to Google (which even then was superior to just about everything else), but N.L. soon ceased to be publicly available.

  135. @anonymous coward
    @Reg Cæsar

    The Beatles were an artificial homunculus, created from whole cloth by the usual suspects - a Jewish homosexual pedophile pervert.

    Talent or 'vigor' had nothing to do with it, a painted pig could have become a superstar in the 1960's; it was the short sweet spot of history when everybody had TV but nobody had immunity to its stupefying mind control.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    They could write a tune, and you can’t.

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Jack Armstrong
    @Reg Cæsar

    Weren’t Paul and George RC?

    Replies: @Hibernian

  136. @Just another serf
    It’s because their families have this dedication to education.

    I’ll give you an example. Many of us have over these nearly 20 years of security restricted air travel, have thought, there must be a better way. There must be something that can be done to move people efficiently through this security maze.

    Then came a Jewish woman, name of Caryn Seidman Becker. She created a company called Clear, that will move you lickety-split through the TSA cluster-f**k.

    What made this profitable breakthrough possible for Caryn Seidman Becker, was her family’s tradition of hard work. Honestly, there were millions of non-Jews trying to crack this TSA nut. All failed.

    Replies: @peterike, @Reg Cæsar

    She created a company called Clear, that will move you lickety-split through the TSA cluster-f**k.

    So did a sclerotic Congress, in 1970. It’s called Amtrak.

  137. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad


    mostly just hustling a little faster than the competition–.e.g. Facebook, Google–without much actual value.
     
    You must have some funny definition of "value" that does not actually mean "value" as in money. Just as distance is measured in miles, value is measured in dollars (e.g. "the value of this car is $30,000") and so if you have many dollars by definition you have created a lot of value. If you say that they have X billions of $ that they were not born with but have not created any value it's the same as me saying that NY and London are 3,000 miles apart but there is no distance between them.

    Maybe you mean something like "merit" rather than value but while value is easy to measure (just check their bank balance), merit is completely subjective. You might see having a system for searching the internet or communicating with your friends online as having little "value" (really merit) or being only slightly better than competing systems but the market begs to differ and the market is by definition right when it comes to value. Personally I found Google's search system to be quite valuable and adopted it as my search engine quite early while I really never had any use for Facebook or any of its competitors, but that's just me and don't pretend that I am a better judge of value than the market.

    Replies: @Old Palo Altan, @Hibernian

    Raise your hand all of you who, like me, started using Google as their search engine when it was still based in somebody’s garage near Palo Alto. I remember clicking on a link which showed their operations humming away inside it. And their first Google street views were of Palo Alto, so, with deep and entranced nostalgia, I walked myself from primary school on Channing via the library on Newell to home on Hamilton.

    I loved them for all that back then; rather less so now.

    • Agree: ScarletNumber
  138. What’s amazing is how many of these guys got rich off selling trash, and speculation. I noted one pipelines.

    *****

    How many NFL teams are owned by Jews? Half?

  139. anon[282] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hypnotoad666
    Here's a math "word problem" for anyone interested: Assume a mean IQ for Jews of around 112-115, a mean IQ for whites of around 100, and a SD for both of around 15.

    Under those assumptions, what IQ score would consist of 35% Jews and 65% whites? Based on the circumstantial evidence, I'm guessing that would also be the average IQ of American billionaires. (With possible adjustment for those who are self-made and those who inherited).

    Replies: @Lagertha, @anon, @Lot, @neutral, @anon

    I get 144. It’s easy to play around with using the NORM.DIST function in Excel.

    In reality, I believe the Ashkenazi standard deviation is usually said to be around 12-13. But working the opposite direction, IQs this far out on the tail deviate from normal distribution (there are more high IQ than expected). So maybe those imprecise assumptions sorta offset.

    If I were setting betting lines, I’d peg it somewhere in 130s. The non-techies simply aren’t that smart.

  140. @Charlie2345
    Just from a casual look the Jews appear to be almost all self made.

    Same with the blacks.

    The remainder have a high proportion of inherited wealth if Jews are removed.

    Why is this true of Jews? (if it is really true and not my imagination)

    The reason why blacks might be this way seems more obvious.

    Replies: @Portlander

    You have it exactly backwards.

    The non-Jew fortunes overwhelmingly produced something that grew the wealth of the country.

    With a few exceptions owing to “accidental empires” in technology, Jews are overwhelmingly the result of insider connections amongst the Wall St cartel. Jews via ethnic nepotism use their insider connections skim a percentage from the wealth of the country.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  141. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    The US is 59% white. The top 100 billionaires are 97% white. A Persian, Pakistani, and Chinese. It helps keep perspective. Whites are overwhelmingly dominant in America and non-whites despite growing numbers are not taking over America any time soon. The current mania is driven by white liberals who have the luxury from a position of dominance to launch a religious awakening elevating non-whites for spiritual and fun reasons. They are in a position to flip the switch when they eventually become exhausted from the awakening.

    Replies: @anonymous coward, @Anonymous

    The US is 59% white. The top 100 billionaires are 97% white. A Persian, Pakistani, and Chinese. It helps keep perspective.

    Interestingly, if you control for single fortunes that have been divided among multiple heirs, family members, ex-wives, etc., and subtract the 3 non-whites, you get 35 of the top 80 white US billionaires being Jewish.

    That makes the Jewish percentage 43.75%, and the white gentile percentage 56.25%.

    With Jewish Americans estimated to be about 2.2% of the population, and the US about 59% white, that means the white gentile percentage of 56.25% of top billionaires is almost exactly representative, while Jews are overrepresented by a factor of around 20.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Another interesting angle is that none of the Jewish fortunes are inherited, while a significant proportion of the white gentile fortunes, 40%, appear to be.

    If we remove the 25 inherited fortunes from this list, that means 35 out of the 75 are Jewish, for a Jewish percentage of 46.67%.

    3 out of the 75 are non-white, so the white gentile percentage would be 49.33%.

    So among the 72 non-inherited white fortunes, almost exactly half are Jewish at 35 vs. 37 white gentile fortunes.

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Another interesting angle is that none of the Jewish fortunes are inherited, while a significant proportion of the white gentile fortunes, 40% appear to be.

    If we remove the 25 inherited fortunes from this list, that means 35 out of the 75 are Jewish, for a Jewish percentage of 46.67%.

    3 out of the 75 are non-white, so the white gentile percentage would be 49.33%.

    So among the 72 non-inherited white fortunes, almost exactly half are Jewish at 35 vs. 37 white gentile fortunes.

  142. @Some Guy
    https://ethnicelebs.com/larry-page

    Ethnicity:
    *father – English, some Irish, distant German and French
    *mother – Ashkenazi Jewish

    Replies: @anon

    Interestingly, Page’s Y Haplogroup (from his father) is E-V13 (according to Eupedia.com). E-V13 is much more common among Jews than among Northern Europeans.

    It would be a very entertaining project (for me) to organize all the males on the list by their Y-Haplogroup and determine any correlation.

  143. @stillCARealist
    @Thomm

    I do love Israel and want to love American Jews. Why are so many of them such commies?

    Replies: @Lot, @Abolish_public_education

    Progress is slow but steady:

    Trump won a majority of married Jewish men in 2016. He also won the Jewish parts of Brooklyn by landslide margins.

    Jews in UK block vote for the Conservative Party.

    Around 2005 Canadian Jews started voting for the conservative parties as much as other Canadian whites.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Lot

    Those are mere Jews and almost all complaints about Jews are about squeaky wheel Alinsky types.
    (We would use a more specific term but, if we did, the wagon-circling logic of anti-Gentilism would immediately go into action to neutralize it. "Anti-Semitism" really in a nutshell is the criminal class of the Jewish society hacking the Jewish threat reflex so that unrelated Jewish parties will defend people who ought not to be defended. That sounds crazy, however [not only is that totally how it happens but] this same craziness can be observed in many other groups, lately most loudly in blacks, also in various Hispanics, and, more rarely, Asians. tldr "So what if he's a murderer, your only real issue is his skin color.")

    , @SFG
    @Lot

    I will admit I've seen quite a few Jews on the *center* right--you see 'em on Fox News, which I don't think you would have seen on the small local papers that would have been the equivalent back in the seventies, say. (People here would say that raises its own issues with concentration of power and ethnic interests--neocon entryism etc.--and I would say they have a very good point.)

    There's a long and bloody history with the *far* right, I think.

    , @Ben tillman
    @Lot

    It’s not about votes of peripheral Jews. It’s about the organized core and the resources it can marshal, which — votes notwithstanding— include resources of the personally less hostile Jews.

  144. @Mr. Anon
    @Jack D


    You can’t be ruthless and nepotistic at the same time – pick one.
     
    Of course you can. You can be nepotistic with the in-group and ruthless with the outgroup. Even with ruthlessness, there can be degrees. You can be more ruthless with the out-group than with the in-group. Your assertion is a false dichotomy.

    Replies: @botazefa

    You can’t be ruthless and nepotistic at the same time – pick one.

    You can be nepotistic with the in-group and ruthless with the outgroup

    Not ruthless, but definitely discerning. Ruthlessness has no room for buddying up to tribalism. At least, that’s how I see it.

  145. Ida Bae Wells wants the Jews to know that the Nazis weren’t so bad, that Jim Crow was the real enemy:

    This was the actual Greatest Generation, the men and women who waged bloody battles on THIS soil to bring democracy to THIS land. This society owes you all a great debt that is seldom acknowledged. Rest In Peace and thank you.

  146. @Anon
    @Mr McKenna

    I got that vibe too, his last name came from his Cuban stepdad, his mother looks Jewish:
    https://imagesvc.meredithcorp.io/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.onecms.io%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F20%2F2019%2F01%2Fgettyimages-628643590-1.jpg

    However, he grew up in TX and doesn't seem to have much of any affinity to Israel. He also went to Princeton and studied CS and EE, two majors Jews tend to shy away from.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @syonredux, @syonredux

    I think they’re more likely to be in those than Mechanical or civil Engineering.

  147. @Jack D
    @ben tillman


    Jewish strategy is for every gentile white person to be outnumbered by a factor of millions to one, and the strategy is wildly successful.
     
    Millions, eh? There are something like 200 million white people in the America so to be outnumbered by a factor of even 1 million let alone millions would mean that we would need to bring in two trillion non-whites. But the entire world population is only .008 trillion so that's not going to work. Or alternatively, we could up the non-white population to 200 million and reduce the white population to 200 people. That would work but it's much too soon to declare that strategy wildly successful. It's going to take a really long time to get the white population of the US down to 200 people.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    Millions, eh? There are something like 200 million white people in the America so to be outnumbered by a factor of even 1 million let alone millions would mean that we would need to bring in two trillion non-whites. But the entire world population is only .008 trillion so that’s not going to work. Or alternatively, we could up the non-white population to 200 million and reduce the white population to 200 people.

    Stop being facetious.

    The lower bound of “millions” is two million. Thus, the number of Jews needed for each white person to be outnumbered by millions to one is two million.

    The strategy is to disassociate and ultimately atomize competing populations so that in any encounter a dissenter goes it alone against an assembly of millions.

  148. @Anon
    @Wilkey

    We should all probably start examining word definitions.

    Equality and justice are not the same thing. We are being mentally lazy and coasting on nice-sounding clichés like “liberté, égalité and fraternité”. Loosing the language war means becoming morally disarmed.

    Replies: @Old Palo Altan

    Equality and justice are not the same thing?

    That is for certain: make either supreme, and the other is driven to the wall.

    • Replies: @Negrolphin Pool
    @Old Palo Altan

    Inequality is the basis of life. Every chemical formula describes an inequality, just as every living cell is exclusive. Diversify any thing enough times, and like a corpse turned to sludge in lye, you will have perfect equality: perfect death.

  149. @FD
    @Reg Cæsar

    Mathematicians beat you to it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cox%E2%80%93Zucker_machine

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Mathematicians beat you to it.

    Figures. Not the first time they’ve had my number.

    All the mathematicians I’ve known have been unparalleled. Otherwise, we’d have never met.

    That’s the plane truth.

    (Sorry. I’m the sort of guy who finds the likes of Eugenia Cheng, Holly Krieger, and Kelsey Houston-Edwards adorable.)

  150. @Anon
    @Mr McKenna

    I got that vibe too, his last name came from his Cuban stepdad, his mother looks Jewish:
    https://imagesvc.meredithcorp.io/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.onecms.io%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F20%2F2019%2F01%2Fgettyimages-628643590-1.jpg

    However, he grew up in TX and doesn't seem to have much of any affinity to Israel. He also went to Princeton and studied CS and EE, two majors Jews tend to shy away from.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @syonredux, @syonredux

    his mother looks Jewish:

    There’s no evidence that his mother has any Jewish ancestry:

    Bezos was born Jeffrey Preston Jorgensen in Albuquerque, New Mexico, on January 12, 1964, the son of Jacklyn (née Gise) and Ted Jorgensen.[6] At the time of his birth, his mother was a 17-year-old high school student and his father was a bike shop owner.[7] After his parents divorced, his mother married Cuban immigrant Miguel “Mike” Bezos in April 1968.[8] Shortly after the wedding, Mike adopted four-year-old Jorgensen, whose surname was then changed to Bezos.[9] The family moved to Houston, Texas, where Mike worked as an engineer for Exxon after he received a degree from the University of New Mexico.[10] Bezos attended River Oaks Elementary School in Houston from fourth to sixth grade.[11] Bezos’ maternal grandfather was Lawrence Preston Gise, a regional director of the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) in Albuquerque.[12] Gise retired early to his family’s ranch near Cotulla, Texas, where Bezos would spend many summers in his youth.[10] Bezos would later purchase this ranch and expand it from 25,000 acres (10,117 ha) to 300,000 acres (121,406 ha).[13][14] His maternal grandmother was Mattie Louise Gise (née Strait), through whom he is a cousin of country singer George Strait.[15]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos

    Birth Name: Jeffrey Preston Jorgensen

    Place of Birth: Albuquerque, New Mexico, U.S.

    Date of Birth: January 12, 1964

    Ethnicity: Danish, German, English, Irish, 1/16th Swedish, distant Northern Irish, Scottish, Welsh

    Jeff is the son of Jacklyn (Gise) and Theodore John Jorgensen. His stepfather, Miguel “Mike” Bezos, is Cuban, and formally adopted Jeff. Jeff has four children with his former wife, novelist MacKenzie (Tuttle) Bezos.

    His maternal ancestors were settlers in Texas. Through his maternal grandmother, he is a second cousin, once removed, of country music singer George Strait. Jeff’s maternal great-great-grandparents, John Joseph Strait/Straight and Martha Eudora “Mattie” Kilgore, were also George’s paternal great-grandparents.

    Jeff’s paternal grandfather was Theodore John “Ted” Jorgensen (the son of John Jorgensen and Ida Minnie Birn). Theodore was born in Illinois. John was born in Holbæk, Holbæk Municipality, Region Zealand, Denmark, the son of Jørgen Søren Mortensen and Mette Marie Pedersdatter. Ida was also born in Denmark, the daughter of Frederik Theodor August “Theodore” Birn and Ida Christine “Minnie” Andersdottor, who was Swedish.

    Jeff’s paternal grandmother was Dolores Pollock (the daughter of Henry Dwight Pollock and Lillian Margaret DeWall). Dolores was born in Iowa. Henry was the son of Irish parents, Arthur Pollock and Lydia Nagle, who was from Cork. Lillian was the daughter of Hie “Heide” DeWall, who was German, and of Lena Cathryn Wolpert.

    Jeff’s maternal grandfather was Lawrence Preston Gise (the son of Lloyd Preston Gise and Rebecca Mabel/Mable Hall). Lawrence was born in Texas. Lloyd was the son of Daniel Kerlin Gise and Adeline/Adaline A. “Addie” Kearns. Rebecca was the daughter of Thomas King Hall and Henrietta Trammell.

    Jeff’s maternal grandmother was Mattie Louise Strait/Straight (the daughter of Yancy/Yancey Clarence Straight/Strait and Marie Vesper). Mattie was born in Texas. Yancy was the son of John Joseph Straight/Strait and Martha Eudora “Mattie” Kilgore. Marie was the daughter of Bernhardt Vesper and Frances Louise Bitter, who both had German ancestry.

    https://ethnicelebs.com/jeff-bezos

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @syonredux

    Gise is a Norman English surname. The Norman conquerors were at the top of the social heap in England.

  151. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad


    mostly just hustling a little faster than the competition–.e.g. Facebook, Google–without much actual value.
     
    You must have some funny definition of "value" that does not actually mean "value" as in money. Just as distance is measured in miles, value is measured in dollars (e.g. "the value of this car is $30,000") and so if you have many dollars by definition you have created a lot of value. If you say that they have X billions of $ that they were not born with but have not created any value it's the same as me saying that NY and London are 3,000 miles apart but there is no distance between them.

    Maybe you mean something like "merit" rather than value but while value is easy to measure (just check their bank balance), merit is completely subjective. You might see having a system for searching the internet or communicating with your friends online as having little "value" (really merit) or being only slightly better than competing systems but the market begs to differ and the market is by definition right when it comes to value. Personally I found Google's search system to be quite valuable and adopted it as my search engine quite early while I really never had any use for Facebook or any of its competitors, but that's just me and don't pretend that I am a better judge of value than the market.

    Replies: @Old Palo Altan, @Hibernian

    In about 1999 I found a search engine called Northern Light superior to Google (which even then was superior to just about everything else), but N.L. soon ceased to be publicly available.

  152. Anon[691] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm
    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks. Then again, the half-Jews should have only half-weight, and many further down the list are half-Jews. If weighted in this manner down the entire table, the weighted Jewish proportion probably falls from 33.25% to 27-28%.

    At any rate, most of the younger 'Jews' on the list are half-Jews, and most of the younger Jews and half-Jews are married to non-Jews, so the bigger theme is ongoing Jewish dilution, more than anything.

    This is a good time to point out that many of the anti-Jewish memes in the comments on this website have many logical flaws :

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the 'Jews are bad' wing of White Nationalism fails.
    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.


    Sincerely,
    -Mordecai 'Ira' Rabinowitz

    Replies: @Cido, @Emblematic, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Thomas, @Negrolphin Pool, @Franz, @Bill Jones, @Ian Smith, @Amerimutt Golems, @Lockean Proviso, @ben tillman, @stillCARealist, @Anon, @Anon, @jbwilson24

    Question:

    Is your dot-head race so subjugated and utterly dysfunctional in-part because they lack the intellectual capacity to move-on from long-reputed propaganda mistakenly thought of as convincing?

    Does this OCD for weak behaviors carry over into everything?

    Side question: do you live in terror that one day White society will reject you and you will one day lose access to White women, effective Law, and honest people and instead have to live among only your own?

    That’s how your posts read, and communicating that is their sole effect. It’s a sad display.

    • Agree: 3g4me
  153. @Anonymous
    Good to know that there is at least one bulwark among US whites who will push back against the newly arriving East and South Asians who seem to be of the conviction that they deserve a large slice of the pie despite having roots in most cases that extend less than half a century. I still can’t say though that I’m completely confident in the Jews given intermarriage rates and some semblance of a decline recently in superficial measures of academic performance. White Nationalists want to talk about Jewish brainwashing and subversion but ironically are convinced themselves to reject a plain fact that is directly seen with the eye, that Jews are white Europeans, in which they are in fact closest to Italians and Greeks, and unhesitatingly speak favorably about the Japanese and East Asians with whom they have even less in common culturally and genetically. It’s almost as if they have become the unaware victims of infiltration and the same things they accuse of Jews but by Asians intended so that they can hate some of the most successful members of their own race (Jews), and if that is not the case then they are still all the more pathetic considering they extol a people who didn’t even try gaining their favor and who mostly view whom as a weak and irrelevant fringe group if they think about them ever. Sad!

    Replies: @Negrolphin Pool

    I would like to think of myself as visually sharp, but my Jewdar is consistently thwarted by what might be termed the (John) Tuturro Effect whereby pureblood Sicilians and other Southern Italians are mistaken for near-certain Jews.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Negrolphin Pool

    Since Jews were Levantine people to begin with and then mixed with the local Greek and Roman population when they came into the Roman Empire, it's completely understandable that they don't look all that different than Italians.

    People get confused with the Semite thing and assume that the ancient Jews looked like modern day Arabs. Modern Arabs mixed with their African slave children and ended up with a lot of African DNA (this also explains how they went from world beating conquerors to camel jockeys). But if you look at unmixed Levantine people (Lebanese Christians, Samaritans) they not are unlike other Mediterranean white people:

    {Samaritans below}

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Flickr_-_Government_Press_Office_%28GPO%29_-_Samaritans_praying_during_Passover_holiday_ceremony_on_mount_Grizim.jpg/440px-Flickr_-_Government_Press_Office_%28GPO%29_-_Samaritans_praying_during_Passover_holiday_ceremony_on_mount_Grizim.jpg

    The older man with the glasses could be pretty much any older Jewish or Italian man.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Lot, @AnotherDad, @syonredux, @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    , @Rob McX
    @Negrolphin Pool


    ...what might be termed the (John) Tuturro Effect whereby pureblood Sicilians and other Southern Italians are mistaken for near-certain Jews.
     
    Put to good effect in Miller's Crossing, where he plays the chutzpah-enhanced Bernie Bernbaum. After the assassin sent to kill him lets him go, Bernie tries to blackmail him by threatening to tell his boss he didn't do the job.
  154. Anon[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomas
    @Thomm


    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the ‘Jews are bad’ wing of White Nationalism fails.
     
    High-trust/high-performance culture meets low-trust/high-performance culture. Throw some of the genetics on COMT and MAOA alleles if you really want to go down a rabbit hole.

    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
     
    Relative cultural and racial distance, first-mover advantage, and the time it takes to develop a well-placed elite with ties to the mother country. China was a backwards Communist country that had destroyed its own culture and economy twice over after WWII until the 1970s. They certainly are trying to make up for lost time in the influence racket. Israel can't manipulate Russia because Russia is ruled by authoritarians of its own racial stock, rather than being a democracy whose population can be manipulated by media, culture and education. Europe's Jews were eliminated by WWII and its aftermath, and its multitude of countries, languages, and media environments are harder to collectively manipulate than a vast, monolingual country with a national financial and media market and a fixed two-party political system.

    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.
     
    Not even close to the same situation. Blacks are a minority that was forced to live as a subordinate racial caste amidst a majority (for now) that has measurable average intellectual and socioeconomic advantages over them. Their situation was going to be objectively lousy no matter what, without any conspiracy or hegemony needed to explain it.

    There are so very, very many examples of ruling dynasties made up of alien minorities throughout history that to treat the existence of one as dubious is either very ignorant or is in bad faith. Many of the dynasties that have ruled China over the past 1,800 years were dominated by non-Han Chinese. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_dynasty)

    In Western history, Britain was ruled by a succession of invaders (Celts, Romans, Angles, Saxons, Danes, and French). Classical Greece was dominated by a series of individual hegemonic minority powers in turn (Athens, Sparta, Thebes and Macedon). Rome dominated an empire in which the majority of those who lived in it were not citizens. The idea of majority democratic rule as the norm in the world, as opposed to some sort of minoritarian rule by an elite, is hardly even a century old.

    And even in modern times, if you want to find examples of dominant minority ethnic groups, you can look at, to cite a few examples, Overseas Chinese in Southeast Asia, Afrikaners in South Africa, Sunni Arabs in Ba'athist Iraq, Alawites in Syria, Tutsis in Rwanda, Indians in East Africa, or Lebanese in Latin America.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Anon, @Nico

    A waste of time.

    “Thomm” (he may as well have named himself Harry Potter, for maximum philo-English kitsch signalling) will be back here in short order, with the same copypasta that he’s been posting since he’s been here and that has been dismantled in the same manner dozens of times.

    Creativity and general intellectual sparkiness aren’t what his race is known for, and so he can’t help himself.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Anon

    '
    “Thomm” (he may as well have named himself Harry Potter, for maximum philo-English kitsch signalling) will be back here in short order, with the same copypasta that he’s been posting since he’s been here and that has been dismantled in the same manner dozens of times.

    Creativity and general intellectual sparkiness aren’t what his race is known for, and so he can’t help himself.'


    'Thomm' is an ardent Zionist. Ardent Zionists are, with astonishing consistency, pretty much the bottom of the Jewish moral and intellectual barrel.

  155. @syonredux
    @Anon


    his mother looks Jewish:
     
    There's no evidence that his mother has any Jewish ancestry:

    Bezos was born Jeffrey Preston Jorgensen in Albuquerque, New Mexico, on January 12, 1964, the son of Jacklyn (née Gise) and Ted Jorgensen.[6] At the time of his birth, his mother was a 17-year-old high school student and his father was a bike shop owner.[7] After his parents divorced, his mother married Cuban immigrant Miguel "Mike" Bezos in April 1968.[8] Shortly after the wedding, Mike adopted four-year-old Jorgensen, whose surname was then changed to Bezos.[9] The family moved to Houston, Texas, where Mike worked as an engineer for Exxon after he received a degree from the University of New Mexico.[10] Bezos attended River Oaks Elementary School in Houston from fourth to sixth grade.[11] Bezos' maternal grandfather was Lawrence Preston Gise, a regional director of the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) in Albuquerque.[12] Gise retired early to his family's ranch near Cotulla, Texas, where Bezos would spend many summers in his youth.[10] Bezos would later purchase this ranch and expand it from 25,000 acres (10,117 ha) to 300,000 acres (121,406 ha).[13][14] His maternal grandmother was Mattie Louise Gise (née Strait), through whom he is a cousin of country singer George Strait.[15]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos

    Birth Name: Jeffrey Preston Jorgensen

    Place of Birth: Albuquerque, New Mexico, U.S.

    Date of Birth: January 12, 1964

    Ethnicity: Danish, German, English, Irish, 1/16th Swedish, distant Northern Irish, Scottish, Welsh

     


    Jeff is the son of Jacklyn (Gise) and Theodore John Jorgensen. His stepfather, Miguel “Mike” Bezos, is Cuban, and formally adopted Jeff. Jeff has four children with his former wife, novelist MacKenzie (Tuttle) Bezos.
     

    His maternal ancestors were settlers in Texas. Through his maternal grandmother, he is a second cousin, once removed, of country music singer George Strait. Jeff’s maternal great-great-grandparents, John Joseph Strait/Straight and Martha Eudora “Mattie” Kilgore, were also George’s paternal great-grandparents.

     


    Jeff’s paternal grandfather was Theodore John “Ted” Jorgensen (the son of John Jorgensen and Ida Minnie Birn). Theodore was born in Illinois. John was born in Holbæk, Holbæk Municipality, Region Zealand, Denmark, the son of Jørgen Søren Mortensen and Mette Marie Pedersdatter. Ida was also born in Denmark, the daughter of Frederik Theodor August “Theodore” Birn and Ida Christine “Minnie” Andersdottor, who was Swedish.
     

    Jeff’s paternal grandmother was Dolores Pollock (the daughter of Henry Dwight Pollock and Lillian Margaret DeWall). Dolores was born in Iowa. Henry was the son of Irish parents, Arthur Pollock and Lydia Nagle, who was from Cork. Lillian was the daughter of Hie “Heide” DeWall, who was German, and of Lena Cathryn Wolpert.

     


    Jeff’s maternal grandfather was Lawrence Preston Gise (the son of Lloyd Preston Gise and Rebecca Mabel/Mable Hall). Lawrence was born in Texas. Lloyd was the son of Daniel Kerlin Gise and Adeline/Adaline A. “Addie” Kearns. Rebecca was the daughter of Thomas King Hall and Henrietta Trammell.
     

    Jeff’s maternal grandmother was Mattie Louise Strait/Straight (the daughter of Yancy/Yancey Clarence Straight/Strait and Marie Vesper). Mattie was born in Texas. Yancy was the son of John Joseph Straight/Strait and Martha Eudora “Mattie” Kilgore. Marie was the daughter of Bernhardt Vesper and Frances Louise Bitter, who both had German ancestry.

     

    https://ethnicelebs.com/jeff-bezos

    Replies: @Jack D

    Gise is a Norman English surname. The Norman conquerors were at the top of the social heap in England.

  156. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Digital Samizdat
    You gotta wonder why no Rockefellers ever appear on any of these lists. I have he same issue with the international lists where no Rothschilds ever appear. I don't imagine these lists are terribly accurate. I prefer to think of them more as a very exclusive version of Who's Who in ... for rich people.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Steve Sailer

    David Rockefeller who died several years ago at over 100 years of age, was on the billionaires list with roughly 2 billion. Forbes estimates the great family fortunes, which have long since dispersed to dozens or even hundreds and thousands of descendants wives etc here:

    https://www.forbes.com/families/list/#tab:overall

    The Duponts, Mellons, Rockefellers stilll have vast fortunes they are simply split up down to the quiet daughter who likes horses rather than the city.

    There are several rothschilds in Europe with centi million fortunes as well.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    The Rothschild's used to practice first cousin marriage and even, twice, uncle-niece marriage to keep the money in the family.

    I presume they stopped?

    Replies: @Clifford Brown

  157. @Negrolphin Pool
    @Anonymous

    I would like to think of myself as visually sharp, but my Jewdar is consistently thwarted by what might be termed the (John) Tuturro Effect whereby pureblood Sicilians and other Southern Italians are mistaken for near-certain Jews.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Rob McX

    Since Jews were Levantine people to begin with and then mixed with the local Greek and Roman population when they came into the Roman Empire, it’s completely understandable that they don’t look all that different than Italians.

    People get confused with the Semite thing and assume that the ancient Jews looked like modern day Arabs. Modern Arabs mixed with their African slave children and ended up with a lot of African DNA (this also explains how they went from world beating conquerors to camel jockeys). But if you look at unmixed Levantine people (Lebanese Christians, Samaritans) they not are unlike other Mediterranean white people:

    {Samaritans below}

    The older man with the glasses could be pretty much any older Jewish or Italian man.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    And his stance could be prayer or bemoaning the insufficiencies of a family member.

    , @Lot
    @Jack D

    Agree that Samaritans are the closest people to ancient Jews. They consider themselves Israelites but not Jews.

    Lebanese Christians are more common but not as close, as they’re a melting pot of near East Christians. They’re a mix of Levantine natives but also Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians, and European migrants during the Crusader Period.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Jack D

    This is one of the eternal problems of slavery or cheap labor--the slaves keep leaving their genes around.

    , @syonredux
    @Jack D


    Here they’re looking at finer details. When they analyze the origins of the European component of Ashkenazi ancestry, they conclude that most is southern – probably Italian, but that smaller amounts originated from (probably) Western Europe and (more certainly) Eastern Europe: and in that temporal order. They conclude that the Italian admixture slightly predated a late medieval founder event. Different methods came up with somewhat different estimates for the total amount of European ancestry: the local ancestry inference (LAI) approach came up with 53% European, while the GLOBETROTTER analysis came up with an estimate of 67% European ancestry (after calibration by simulations). In their best guess, they split the difference and go for 60% European.
     

    To sum up, their model is that a population from the Levant mixed with Italians, and shortly thereafter moved to the Rhineland (the founding bottleneck), perhaps mixing to some degree with the local Europeans there, and certainly mixing some with Slavic types when they moved to the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
     
    https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2016/07/20/even-more-on-ashkenazi-ancestry/
    , @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    @Jack D

    The tall man to his right even looks Anglo.
    Any explaining that?

  158. Speaking of billionaires, David Rockefeller’s grandson has died at 50 though that connection was not mentioned in his New York Times obit. The man who turned family charities against fossil fuels.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/16/business/energy-environment/david-kaiser-dead.html

  159. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    @Franz

    Murray Bernays, beloved of FDR, was a Jew largely responsible for switching the idea of a "war crimes" tribunal from a trial of soldiers who had broken the accepted laws of war to a trial of crimes committed before the war, or of crimes committed by a government against their own citizens.

    (Imagine, if you will, that Russia, following a conquest of America, tried American officials for the "war crime" of the 1993 siege of Waco, the "war crime" of abortion, or the "war crime" of the invasion of Iraq ... actually, I guess that last one isn't so crazy...)

    Roosevelt's Secretary of War, Stimson, criticized the Joint Chiefs of Staff for their original proposal, which would, like all previous war crimes trials, have followed the convention that the US, like all other countries, may put enemy warriors on trial for the same sorts of crimes for which we may try our own soldiers.


    Bernays, special aide to Robert Jackson, received the Legion of Merit from the Roosevelt administration on the following grounds: “Early recognizing the need for a sound basis in dealing with the problem of war criminals and war crimes, he formulated the basic concept of such a policy and initiated timely and appropriate action which assured its adoption as the foundation of national policy.”


    Here's what Bernays told American press about Nuremberg:


    “There are a good many Nazi criminals who will get off if the roundups aren’t conducted efficiently. But if we establish that the SS, for example, was a criminal organization, and that membership in it is evidence per se of criminality, the Allies are going to get hold of a great many more criminals in one swoop. You know, a lot of people here at home don’t realize that we are now the government of Germany in our zone and that no judicial system can exist other than one we approve. We are the law. If we wanted to, for instance, could try Germans for crimes twenty, thirty, forty years old. We’ll be too busy with the current crop of war criminals, though, to have much time to look into ancient wrongdoings.”
     
    It was not a trial. It was a frame-up. One of the Soviet "judges," a Nikitchenko, said before the trial, "...we are dealing here with the chief war criminals who have already been convicted." This "trial" made a deliberate mockery of old American beliefs about how a trial is supposed to work.

    This was one of the most shameful episodes in all of history. Against the will of the American people, we fought World War Two to destroy other nations and fulfill Jewish revenge fantasies against their old enemies.

    Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan, @AnotherDad

    As an addendum, I would like to quote Chief Justice Harlan Fiske Stone, who gave an interview to Fortune Magazine that was critical of Judge Jackson’s gallivanting, grandstanding “trial.”

    “So far as the Nuremberg trial is an attempt to justify the application of the power of the victor to the vanquished because the vanquished made aggressive war. I dislike extremely to see it dressed up with a false facade of legality. The best that can be said for it is that it is a political act of the victorious States, which may be morally right, as was the sequestration of Napoleon about 1815. But the allies in that day did not feel it necessary to justify it by an appeal to nonexistent legal principles. As a practical matter, it seems to me that the difficulties and uncertainties of saying who is the aggressor under the conditions which produce modern war should make us hesitate to lay down for the future a principle which would always require that question to be answered by the victor.

    It would not disturb me greatly if that power were openly and frankly used to punish the German leaders for being a bad lot, but it disturbs me some to have it dressed up in the habiliments of the Common Law and the constitutional safeguards to those charged with crime. It looks as though we were committing ourselves to the proposition that the outcome of every war must be that the leaders of the vanquished must be executed by the victors.”

    Just remember this, folks, the next time someone dares to speak favorably of FDR.

    Thanks, Steve, for letting me post these comments and for being a good host in general.

    • Agree: Sam Malone
  160. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer

    Scots control banking in the Southern Hemisphere. One of their Antipodean institutions bought my old employer and everything got tighter and tighter.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    They definitely did Hong Kong traditionally, that will change obviously. HSBC being the big boy there.

    Always been big in the banks but more in Canada than Australia.

  161. @Lot
    @stillCARealist

    Progress is slow but steady:

    Trump won a majority of married Jewish men in 2016. He also won the Jewish parts of Brooklyn by landslide margins.

    Jews in UK block vote for the Conservative Party.

    Around 2005 Canadian Jews started voting for the conservative parties as much as other Canadian whites.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @SFG, @Ben tillman

    Those are mere Jews and almost all complaints about Jews are about squeaky wheel Alinsky types.
    (We would use a more specific term but, if we did, the wagon-circling logic of anti-Gentilism would immediately go into action to neutralize it. “Anti-Semitism” really in a nutshell is the criminal class of the Jewish society hacking the Jewish threat reflex so that unrelated Jewish parties will defend people who ought not to be defended. That sounds crazy, however [not only is that totally how it happens but] this same craziness can be observed in many other groups, lately most loudly in blacks, also in various Hispanics, and, more rarely, Asians. tldr “So what if he’s a murderer, your only real issue is his skin color.”)

  162. @Old Palo Altan
    @Anon

    Equality and justice are not the same thing?

    That is for certain: make either supreme, and the other is driven to the wall.

    Replies: @Negrolphin Pool

    Inequality is the basis of life. Every chemical formula describes an inequality, just as every living cell is exclusive. Diversify any thing enough times, and like a corpse turned to sludge in lye, you will have perfect equality: perfect death.

  163. @Anon
    @Mr McKenna

    I got that vibe too, his last name came from his Cuban stepdad, his mother looks Jewish:
    https://imagesvc.meredithcorp.io/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.onecms.io%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F20%2F2019%2F01%2Fgettyimages-628643590-1.jpg

    However, he grew up in TX and doesn't seem to have much of any affinity to Israel. He also went to Princeton and studied CS and EE, two majors Jews tend to shy away from.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @syonredux, @syonredux

    Bio data on Jeff Bezos’ maternal grandfather:

    Daniel K. Gise
    BIRTH 3 Mar 1843
    Lebanon County, Pennsylvania, USA
    DEATH 1912 (aged 68–69)
    BURIAL
    Girard Cemetery
    Girard, Crawford County, Kansas, USA

    DANIEL K. GISE, senior member of the firm of D. K. Gise & Co., stands at the head of one of the important manufacturing interests of Joliet, operating a factory which turns out door hinges and other articles in this line. The office occupies No. 111, St. Louis Street, while the residence of Mr. Gise is located at No. 201, Sherman Street. Mr. Gise has been a resident of this county since 1868, and for the space of a dozen years has been associated with its leading interests. A native of Lebanon County, Pa., Mr. Gise was born March 3, 1843, and is the son of David B. Gise, a native of Newmanstown, that State. The latter was reared to manhood in his native State, and was there married to Miss Sarah Kerlin. The wife was of English descent, her progenitors settling in Pennsylvania at an early day. Both families were of eminent respectability and the male members largely millers by trade. The parents of our subject, when he was an infant of three months, removed to Center County, Pa., where the father followed milling and farming and where the mother died.

    In 1867, after the death of his wife, David Gise emigrated to Illinois with his family, settling south of Manhattan, in Wilson Township, this county, where he now lives. Daniel K. was reared to mature years in Center County, Pa., and after reaching manhood engaged in mercantile pursuits until coming to this county. He then purchased land in Manhattan Township, which he brought to a good state of cultivation, erecting thereon suitable farm buildings and where he resided until about 1872; then removing to Joliet he purchased a stock of goods and established himself on Washington Street, where he continued to do business until 1882. That year he sold out and, after an interval of rest, became interested in live stock in the West, which engaged his attention for a time, and he then established his present business which he has conducted about five years. He still retains possession of his farm property in Manhattan Township. Gise & Co. sell the product of their manufactory principally to the jobbing and retail trade, having men on the road at all times.

    Mr. Gise was married, February 10, 1870, in Mifflin County, Pa., to Miss Addie A. Kearns who was born in that county August 27, 1847. The parents of Mrs. Gise were Thomas and Mary (Settle) Kearns, natives of Pennsylvania and now deceased. Four children have been born to our subject and his good wife, these bearing the names respectively, of Ward K., Lloyd P., Buelah A. and Edith S.

    Mrs. Gise is a member in good standing of the Central Presbyterian Church. Mr. Gise gives his political support to the Democratic party but meddles very little with public affairs, preferring to devote his time and attention to his business interests and his family.
    – Portrait and Biographical Album of Will County, Illinois,
    1890

    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/95256690/daniel-k_-gise

  164. Yves Rausch, the harmless forest creature who hurt nobody and just wanted to be left alone to do things Americans take for granted, who was harassed by four idiot cops over nothing and who disarmed them without hurting them in any way, who eluded police and military resources for about a week in the Black Forest, has turned himself in and returned the police pistols. Police are patting themselves on the back for having done so much heroic work.
    Hysterical Bild summary: “the horror has ended.”
    This is truly a great man. He has done more with this act than any uniformed militia could. And now we know why European police do nothing about violent and heinous crime.
    https://www.bild.de/news/2020/news/oppenau-yves-r-31-endlich-gefasst-71860474.bildMobile.html

  165. @HammerJack
    @Not Only Wrathful


    Trying to find yourself in famous examples of your co-ethnics is a common habit.
     
    Neither I nor anyone I have ever known has done this, with the conspicuous exception of the many Jewish people I've known.

    Replies: @Not Only Wrathful, @Reg Cæsar

    Do you believe what you’re saying?

    Really, do you?

    Hitler was obsessed with claiming that anyone successful in history was a German (true Aryan.)

    This website hosted a long article, complete with an interminable discussion, on the ethnicity of the Ancient Greeks.

    The identity of the Ancient Egyptians is another one.

    In fact, whenever there is cause for doubt, all plausible groups, and many totally implausible groups, will claim that famous person for their own.

    Columbus is a classic example. Even Jesus and the ancient Israelites have been claimed by practically every old world group. As have the Romans, or as iSteve occasionally does, the identity of the first settlers of the Americas.

    Your inability to see the obvious because you’re blinded by your obsessional hatred of what you think of as Jews is utterly embarrassing.

    What next? Only Jews, and literally no one else, has ever lied? Breathed? Or drunk water?

  166. Interestingly, if you control for single fortunes that have been divided among multiple heirs ….

    Yes. When Patty Hearst was kidnapped her father had to take out a loan for the $4 million food giveaway the SLA demanded. Remember that these lists are drawn up by journalists who are accurate when they are assessing self made men with apparently non diversified holdings. In reality the highly secretive ‘family offices’ of the self made super rich mean most of them have greatly increased their original fortune, while the inherited people are the ones who are much overestimated. Enduring wealth that exists is usually tied up in trusts or of frittered away in wild schemes. Look what happened to the Hunt brothers.

    Of course Thomas Piketty would argue with that and say it is the old hereditary fortunes that are being underestimated, but I would point out that for many years the (anti royal Murdoch) Sunday Times rich list had the Queen as the wealthiest person in the world. Ludicrous. Forbes is a magazine for rich folks so it pretends the historically wealthy families can hand the wealth down for generations as if it was like the name. It can’t, Gates has had to give his away to a foundation in order to keep it intact.

    Ghislaine Maxwell is was the favourite daughter of a billionaire and partner of another one, and she has at least one self made centimillionaire sibling. The FBI cannot believe she has only the 20 million total worth they can find and in calling her a flight risk, accuse her of having a vast hidden fortune. Jesse Livermore’s middle aged great granddaughter is still toiling as a porn performer.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Sean

    The 20 million they can find, and her network of friends, make her a flight risk. Plus she's a french citizen, and, if she manages to reach French soil, she'll likely never be extradited to the US.

  167. @Jack D
    @Negrolphin Pool

    Since Jews were Levantine people to begin with and then mixed with the local Greek and Roman population when they came into the Roman Empire, it's completely understandable that they don't look all that different than Italians.

    People get confused with the Semite thing and assume that the ancient Jews looked like modern day Arabs. Modern Arabs mixed with their African slave children and ended up with a lot of African DNA (this also explains how they went from world beating conquerors to camel jockeys). But if you look at unmixed Levantine people (Lebanese Christians, Samaritans) they not are unlike other Mediterranean white people:

    {Samaritans below}

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Flickr_-_Government_Press_Office_%28GPO%29_-_Samaritans_praying_during_Passover_holiday_ceremony_on_mount_Grizim.jpg/440px-Flickr_-_Government_Press_Office_%28GPO%29_-_Samaritans_praying_during_Passover_holiday_ceremony_on_mount_Grizim.jpg

    The older man with the glasses could be pretty much any older Jewish or Italian man.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Lot, @AnotherDad, @syonredux, @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    And his stance could be prayer or bemoaning the insufficiencies of a family member.

  168. @botazefa
    @ben tillman


    Being smart is not the only survival strategy of organisms. Intelligence is not the only characteristic that is relevant to survival.
     
    Curious, what other human survival strategy isn't built by intelligence? Sex drive is the only thing I can think of, and that only gets a person so far.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Strategy is a misnomer. For survival, more important are optimism, will to live, meaning of life, motivation, ….

    As Albert Schweitzer had said: Happiness is nothing more than good health and a bad memory.

  169. @HammerJack
    @Not Only Wrathful


    Trying to find yourself in famous examples of your co-ethnics is a common habit.
     
    Neither I nor anyone I have ever known has done this, with the conspicuous exception of the many Jewish people I've known.

    Replies: @Not Only Wrathful, @Reg Cæsar

    Trying to find yourself in famous examples of your co-ethnics is a common habit.

    Neither I nor anyone I have ever known has done this, with the conspicuous exception of the many Jewish people I’ve known.

    You’ve never met an Italian, a Pole, a Scandinavian, a Mexican, an Irishman, a Scot? Where do you live– Gardiner’s Island?

    Gardiners Island: A Nearly 400 Year Family History Of Pirates, Treasure And Triumph

    The colorful history of America’s oldest family estate – the VERY private New York island where Captain Kidd buried his booty and Jackie O was accused of stealing a solid gold lighter during a dinner party for the crème de la crème of society

  170. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @anonymous


    The US is 59% white. The top 100 billionaires are 97% white. A Persian, Pakistani, and Chinese. It helps keep perspective.
     
    Interestingly, if you control for single fortunes that have been divided among multiple heirs, family members, ex-wives, etc., and subtract the 3 non-whites, you get 35 of the top 80 white US billionaires being Jewish.

    That makes the Jewish percentage 43.75%, and the white gentile percentage 56.25%.

    With Jewish Americans estimated to be about 2.2% of the population, and the US about 59% white, that means the white gentile percentage of 56.25% of top billionaires is almost exactly representative, while Jews are overrepresented by a factor of around 20.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    Another interesting angle is that none of the Jewish fortunes are inherited, while a significant proportion of the white gentile fortunes, 40%, appear to be.

    If we remove the 25 inherited fortunes from this list, that means 35 out of the 75 are Jewish, for a Jewish percentage of 46.67%.

    3 out of the 75 are non-white, so the white gentile percentage would be 49.33%.

    So among the 72 non-inherited white fortunes, almost exactly half are Jewish at 35 vs. 37 white gentile fortunes.

  171. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Not Only Wrathful
    @Anonymous

    The "Indian guy" who took over from Ballmer is Satya Nadella. He is brilliant.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    lel. Hes a complete non entitiy.

    • Disagree: Not Only Wrathful
  172. It looks as though we were committing ourselves to the proposition that the outcome of every war must be that the leaders of the vanquished must be executed by the victors.”

    Stone’s crystal ball was defective because it didn’t turn out that way at all. Capital punishment has been reserved for those, like the Nazis, who were uniquely bad actors and who were richly deserving of punishment for their atrocities. Nor, as in the case of bin Laden, did we feel it necessary to dress their execution in the guise of a criminal trial. As for which of our enemies were just ordinary wartime leaders and which are guilty of truly atrocious behavior, I think it is like pornography vs art – you know it when you see it.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Jack D


    It would not disturb me greatly if that power were openly and frankly used to punish the German leaders for being a bad lot, but it disturbs me some to have it dressed up in the habiliments of the Common Law and the constitutional safeguards to those charged with crime.
     
    As near as I can tell, Stone would have been more-or-less OK with just extra-judicially executing various top top Nazis. He simply didn't like "hav[ing] it dressed up" in legal clothing. Here's another quote from Stone that reinforces the point:

    I don't mind what he does to the Nazis, but I hate to see the pretense that he is running a court and proceeding according to common law. This is a little too sanctimonious a fraud to meet my old-fashioned ideas
     
    And Jackson himself had qualms about what he was doing:

    [The Allies] have done or are doing some of the very things we are prosecuting the Germans for. The French are so violating the Geneva Convention in the treatment of prisoners of war that our command is taking back prisoners sent to them. We are prosecuting plunder and our Allies are practising it. We say aggressive war is a crime and one of our allies asserts sovereignty over the Baltic States based on no title except conquest.

     

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad

  173. Not long ago I’d read that roofing rani Diane Hendricks was the wealthiest resident of Wisconsin. But right above her is drain tycoon Herbert Kohler. (Not to be confused with retail rajah Sen. Herb Kohl, also of Wisconsin.)

    These rankings must leapfrog a lot.

    Mrs Hendricks is the daughter of dairy farmers (how cheeseheaded can you get?), but unlike most billionaire widows, she was an equal partner in building the family business.

  174. “Conversely, if you would prefer people not speak about the idea of Jewish privilege, it might make sense not to promote the idea of white privilege quite so assiduously”

    I’ve been saying this for fucking years and believe i posted that on these very pages…….do TPTB spreading this white privilege nonsense think black folks are stupid? How long before they make the connection that Jewish folks have even more privilege based their representation in society……AND it looks like the connection HAS been made…….so now what?

  175. @Gordo
    If White privilege was real most people would be afraid to talk about it and it would never be mentioned in the mainstream media.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Chrisnonymous

    Exactly. If you have real privilege, you need to control the narrative and turn it into a taboo subject, otherwise you won’t be privileged for long.

  176. @Buffalo Joe
    Ten percent of the total wealth of the billionaires on the list should cover Reparations for our black brethern nicely. Now. who do we get to start stirring the pot?

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Lagertha

    But that windfall would only make things worse for blacks. It would be spent on bling, crack (or whatever the current drug happens to be) and deathtrap pimpmobiles. Pretty you’d need to be paying them reparations for having paid them reparations.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Rob McX

    Correction: Pretty soon you’d need to be paying them reparations for having paid them reparations.

  177. @Anon
    @Thomas

    A waste of time.

    "Thomm" (he may as well have named himself Harry Potter, for maximum philo-English kitsch signalling) will be back here in short order, with the same copypasta that he's been posting since he's been here and that has been dismantled in the same manner dozens of times.

    Creativity and general intellectual sparkiness aren't what his race is known for, and so he can't help himself.

    Replies: @Colin Wright


    “Thomm” (he may as well have named himself Harry Potter, for maximum philo-English kitsch signalling) will be back here in short order, with the same copypasta that he’s been posting since he’s been here and that has been dismantled in the same manner dozens of times.

    Creativity and general intellectual sparkiness aren’t what his race is known for, and so he can’t help himself.’

    ‘Thomm’ is an ardent Zionist. Ardent Zionists are, with astonishing consistency, pretty much the bottom of the Jewish moral and intellectual barrel.

  178. @stillCARealist
    @Thomm

    I do love Israel and want to love American Jews. Why are so many of them such commies?

    Replies: @Lot, @Abolish_public_education

    The capitalists/communists hate the Jews because the Jews are communists/capitalists.

  179. @Jack D
    @Negrolphin Pool

    Since Jews were Levantine people to begin with and then mixed with the local Greek and Roman population when they came into the Roman Empire, it's completely understandable that they don't look all that different than Italians.

    People get confused with the Semite thing and assume that the ancient Jews looked like modern day Arabs. Modern Arabs mixed with their African slave children and ended up with a lot of African DNA (this also explains how they went from world beating conquerors to camel jockeys). But if you look at unmixed Levantine people (Lebanese Christians, Samaritans) they not are unlike other Mediterranean white people:

    {Samaritans below}

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Flickr_-_Government_Press_Office_%28GPO%29_-_Samaritans_praying_during_Passover_holiday_ceremony_on_mount_Grizim.jpg/440px-Flickr_-_Government_Press_Office_%28GPO%29_-_Samaritans_praying_during_Passover_holiday_ceremony_on_mount_Grizim.jpg

    The older man with the glasses could be pretty much any older Jewish or Italian man.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Lot, @AnotherDad, @syonredux, @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    Agree that Samaritans are the closest people to ancient Jews. They consider themselves Israelites but not Jews.

    Lebanese Christians are more common but not as close, as they’re a melting pot of near East Christians. They’re a mix of Levantine natives but also Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians, and European migrants during the Crusader Period.

  180. @Ron Mexico
    @Steve Sailer

    They keep track of who is part of the Tribe.

    Hanukkah Song, Adam Sandler

    "David Lee Roth lights the Menorah
    So does James Caan, Kirk Douglas and the late Dina Shore-ah
    Guess who eats together at the Carnegie Deli?
    Bowzer from Sha Na Na and Arthur Fonzerelli
    Paul Newman's half Jewish, Goldie Hawn's half too
    Put them together, what a fine looking Jew!
    You don't need "Deck the Halls" or "Jingle Bell Rock"
    Cause you can spin a dreidel with Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock (both Jewish!)
    Put on your yarmulke
    Its time for Hanukkah
    The owner of the Seattle Supersonic-ahs
    Celebrates Hanukkah
    O.J. Simpson: not a Jew
    But guess who is?: Hall-of-famer Rod Carew (he converted)
    We got Ann Landers and her sister Dear Abby
    Harrison Ford's a quarter Jewish - not too shabby!"

    Replies: @Roderick Spode, @danand

    “Bruce Springsteen isn’t Jewish
    But my mother thinks he is.”

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Roderick Spode


    “Bruce Springsteen isn’t Jewish
    But my mother thinks he is.”
     
    He's as Italian as Jay Leno and Madonna.

    Or, if you prefer ladies with musical rather than business talent, Connie Stevens, Laura Nyro and Melanie.

  181. @Negrolphin Pool
    @Anonymous

    I would like to think of myself as visually sharp, but my Jewdar is consistently thwarted by what might be termed the (John) Tuturro Effect whereby pureblood Sicilians and other Southern Italians are mistaken for near-certain Jews.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Rob McX

    …what might be termed the (John) Tuturro Effect whereby pureblood Sicilians and other Southern Italians are mistaken for near-certain Jews.

    Put to good effect in Miller’s Crossing, where he plays the chutzpah-enhanced Bernie Bernbaum. After the assassin sent to kill him lets him go, Bernie tries to blackmail him by threatening to tell his boss he didn’t do the job.

    • LOL: Negrolphin Pool
  182. Anonymous[238] • Disclaimer says:

    Yep. They used to be objective, and for a long time. I remember them including a WN news source in their feed (VNN?) for a time. But then they became anti-white, and I switched to bing. I still use them for maps and if I can’t find what I need on bing, which is maybe once a week to once a month.

  183. @Jack D

    It looks as though we were committing ourselves to the proposition that the outcome of every war must be that the leaders of the vanquished must be executed by the victors.”
     
    Stone's crystal ball was defective because it didn't turn out that way at all. Capital punishment has been reserved for those, like the Nazis, who were uniquely bad actors and who were richly deserving of punishment for their atrocities. Nor, as in the case of bin Laden, did we feel it necessary to dress their execution in the guise of a criminal trial. As for which of our enemies were just ordinary wartime leaders and which are guilty of truly atrocious behavior, I think it is like pornography vs art - you know it when you see it.

    Replies: @syonredux

    It would not disturb me greatly if that power were openly and frankly used to punish the German leaders for being a bad lot, but it disturbs me some to have it dressed up in the habiliments of the Common Law and the constitutional safeguards to those charged with crime.

    As near as I can tell, Stone would have been more-or-less OK with just extra-judicially executing various top top Nazis. He simply didn’t like “hav[ing] it dressed up” in legal clothing. Here’s another quote from Stone that reinforces the point:

    I don’t mind what he does to the Nazis, but I hate to see the pretense that he is running a court and proceeding according to common law. This is a little too sanctimonious a fraud to meet my old-fashioned ideas

    And Jackson himself had qualms about what he was doing:

    [The Allies] have done or are doing some of the very things we are prosecuting the Germans for. The French are so violating the Geneva Convention in the treatment of prisoners of war that our command is taking back prisoners sent to them. We are prosecuting plunder and our Allies are practising it. We say aggressive war is a crime and one of our allies asserts sovereignty over the Baltic States based on no title except conquest.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @syonredux

    So Senator Robert Taft had judicial allies in his classifying the Nuremberg Trials as extrajudicial show trials.

    , @AnotherDad
    @syonredux

    Stone was right.

    These Nazi goons richly deserved execution for their role in dragging the world through this horror.

    Wrapping all sorts of pompous legal b.s. around it was bogus and actually a disservice to civilization.

  184. OT,but does anybody have any pertinent info about this Chrissy Tiegen stuff?

    • Replies: @anon
    @Giancarlo M. Kumquat


    OT,but does anybody have any pertinent info about this Chrissy Tiegen stuff?


    Nothing to be seen. Sure, she flew on Epstein's airplane a few times, and all of a sudden she decided to delete 60,000 tweets...and some of the tweets are more than just strange...but, eh, nothing to see here, citizen. Move along!

    https://www.themix.net/2020/07/chrissy-teigen-deletes-60k-tweets-after-being-named-on-epsteins-flight-log/

  185. Anonymous[238] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous coward
    @Reg Cæsar

    The Beatles were an artificial homunculus, created from whole cloth by the usual suspects - a Jewish homosexual pedophile pervert.

    Talent or 'vigor' had nothing to do with it, a painted pig could have become a superstar in the 1960's; it was the short sweet spot of history when everybody had TV but nobody had immunity to its stupefying mind control.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    Please. You (vastly) underestimate their talent.

    https://m.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/the-greatest-albums-of-all-time

    4/ top 4

    6/ top 11.

    9/ top 21

    No one else has more than 2 in the top 20. There is no Mozart to their Beethoven, and I’m not sure there is even a Bach they are that dominant.

    BTW I did not know what was going to turn up when I went there, but figured it would be pretty obvious. They were the original supergroup, with the two leads competing with each other and having meaningful solo careers and every member chipping in with the hits.

    Talent rose. Take Elvis. He had fans for a reason. He could take a song from S&G, and do it so well (Bridge over Troubled Waters) that they thought it was potentially better than their own version. BTW I was born after all of these artists had their day in the sun.

    Unfortunately your take on the fab 4 obscures an interesting take on the 1960s. The age of media before splintering. I think we are talking about pre-cable TV.

    Talent or ‘vigor’ had nothing to do with it, a painted pig could have become a superstar in the 1960’s; it was the short sweet spot of history when everybody had TV but nobody had immunity to its stupefying mind control.

    Now due to that splintering and the gradual genocidal activity of that Jewish control to give motivation, the genie is out of the bottle again. Things change. It is hard to dominate the world in any activity for an extended period of time. You have to get up pretty early to do it.

  186. @ben tillman
    @Thomm

    What a load of horseshit!

    It does not "appear" that Jews outperform gentile whites at all. Accumulating wealth is not what "performing" means.


    This is a good time to point out that many of the anti-Jewish memes in the comments on this website have many logical flaws :

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the ‘Jews are bad’ wing of White Nationalism fails.
     

    1. Being smart is not the only survival strategy of organisms. Intelligence is not the only characteristic that is relevant to survival. God, you're a moron. The Jewish strategy against us is primarily one of out-grouping us.

    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.
     
    3. Blacks don't say *anything* about gentile whites as such. Instead, the political posture of blacks vis-a-vis whites is much more similar to that of Jews vis-a-vis gentile whites. Both blacks and Jews insist that gentile whites may not be autonomous. Both blacks and Jews claim the right to forcibly capture gentile whites' positive externalities. Moreover, even if the accusations were similar (and they are not), the notion that is impossible for one accusation to be true and the other to be false is mind-bogglingly stupid.

    Reference to "the small number if Jews:" is profoundly ignorant or mendacious. The Jewish strategy is for every gentile white person to be outnumbered by a factor of millions to one, and the strategy is wildly successful.

    Replies: @Jack D, @botazefa, @AnotherDad

    3. Blacks don’t say *anything* about gentile whites as such. Instead, the political posture of blacks vis-a-vis whites is much more similar to that of Jews vis-a-vis gentile whites. Both blacks and Jews insist that gentile whites may not be autonomous. Both blacks and Jews claim the right to forcibly capture gentile whites’ positive externalities.

    Ben, thanks for this. This is one of the clearest statements of the core issue/ideology. Super important to understand.

    The Jewish demand is that Jews have some sort of divine right to middle man anywhere and everywhere, and gentiles saying “No thanks, rather do it myself” is illegitimate–anti-Semitic!, evil, fascist, Nazi! Whining about “Pale of Settlement” or the Golfocaust or nationalists (i.e. Nazis!) or immigration restrictionists–it’s all the same thing. White people are not entitled to build and enjoy their own stuff.

    And the weird thing is–Jews actually believe it! They’ve convinced themselves that Jews are simply entitled to access to whites and their stuff. Whites are evil if they resist.

    This is why we have lost our freedom of association. Why we’ve had a coup against our Constitution of republican government, federalism and individual liberty and had it replaced by this “Civil Rights” constitution–of endless government bullying. Why whites were chased out of the neighborhoods, but are j’accused of the crime of “white flight”! Why white kids were forced out of their neighborhood school and bused across town to a black one. Why Christians have to bake cakes for faggy weddings. Why we have mobs of rioters in our streets, why statues of white men must be toppled, why our history must be erased. And most importantly–why white nations must be flooded with foreigners.

    Important to note the Jewish ideology–minoritarianism–is not “we’re all in this together”. Jews are the great rejecters of Western Christian integration, marry-the-girl-next-door, one-peoplism in favor of maintaining their own tribalism. No, Jews (and ergo “minorities”) are entitled to their tribalism, their own stuff, but gentiles are not. Whites and their stuff belong to everyone. There’s no argument minoritarianism in morality or logic. Just sheer “what’s good for the Jews” sociopathy.

    The Jewish demand is not “let my people go!” it is “you must let me in! you can not say ‘no’”. It is the ideology of the rapist.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @AnotherDad

    Great post, AnotherDad.

    To the extent that we get pissed off by the continued persecution, have more children, encourage your children to do so, work hard and smart to provide for them, educate them and others. Let the flow of your dollars take into account who is white akin to how the Jews determine their own, both genetically and culturally - are they on our team or are they traitors? And resist in subtle but effective ways.

    , @Anonymous
    @AnotherDad


    had it replaced by this “Civil Rights” constitution
     
    It should just be called Special Tribal Rights.

    If it were truly about civil rights, then AIPAC and BDS would get the same protections. But guess which is promoted and which is prohibited?

    You must attack the PREMISE of your enemy. Its core.

    Take the game of Jenga. If you remove pieces from the top, it doesn't threaten the whole structure.
    But remove one piece at the bottom and the whole thing may fall.

    Indeed, removing ten pieces from the top is less threatening than removing just one piece from the bottom.

    Jewish Power attacks the very foundation of whiteness.
    Whites may criticize some outer manifestations of Jewish Power but totally praises the core of Jewishness as something even greater than whiteness and Christianity.

    This is why Jews and blacks(and homos) get away with so much. Jussie Smollett and Bubba and Floyd riots. While white conservatives may point to specific bad black behavior, they are agreed with the core conviction that Negroes be noble and suffered nothing but horrors prior to the 60s.
    It's like criticizing the outward failures of communism while praising its core tenets and agendas.

    In contrast, blacks now attack the very foundation of white everything.
  187. @Anonymouse
    @Jack D

    I have no idea what kind of IQ test I sat in 1947 when I was 13. I was told my score was 157, the next highest being classmate Donald Safford or Stafford who scored 141. I googled "New York City Board of Education IQ tests in the 1940s" but to no avail.

    Replies: @Faraday's Bobcat

    I scored 347 on an IQ test on a day when I was greatly distracted by the recent death of my Uncle Chesburn who had met his demise by falling down a sewer grating. Uncle Ches was very thin, you see. He survived the fall but was killed when he adhered to a large flocculation of restaurant grease and was swept into the raging current of the Little Kennecrank River after a spring freshet.

    The next closest score was that of Johnny von Neumann who assured me he got a 196. Sharp dresser, hell of an oboist, but never did amount to much.

    • LOL: Jack D
  188. @Jack D
    @Negrolphin Pool

    Since Jews were Levantine people to begin with and then mixed with the local Greek and Roman population when they came into the Roman Empire, it's completely understandable that they don't look all that different than Italians.

    People get confused with the Semite thing and assume that the ancient Jews looked like modern day Arabs. Modern Arabs mixed with their African slave children and ended up with a lot of African DNA (this also explains how they went from world beating conquerors to camel jockeys). But if you look at unmixed Levantine people (Lebanese Christians, Samaritans) they not are unlike other Mediterranean white people:

    {Samaritans below}

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Flickr_-_Government_Press_Office_%28GPO%29_-_Samaritans_praying_during_Passover_holiday_ceremony_on_mount_Grizim.jpg/440px-Flickr_-_Government_Press_Office_%28GPO%29_-_Samaritans_praying_during_Passover_holiday_ceremony_on_mount_Grizim.jpg

    The older man with the glasses could be pretty much any older Jewish or Italian man.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Lot, @AnotherDad, @syonredux, @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    This is one of the eternal problems of slavery or cheap labor–the slaves keep leaving their genes around.

  189. @Rob McX
    @Buffalo Joe

    But that windfall would only make things worse for blacks. It would be spent on bling, crack (or whatever the current drug happens to be) and deathtrap pimpmobiles. Pretty you'd need to be paying them reparations for having paid them reparations.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    Correction: Pretty soon you’d need to be paying them reparations for having paid them reparations.

  190. @Ron Mexico
    @Steve Sailer

    They keep track of who is part of the Tribe.

    Hanukkah Song, Adam Sandler

    "David Lee Roth lights the Menorah
    So does James Caan, Kirk Douglas and the late Dina Shore-ah
    Guess who eats together at the Carnegie Deli?
    Bowzer from Sha Na Na and Arthur Fonzerelli
    Paul Newman's half Jewish, Goldie Hawn's half too
    Put them together, what a fine looking Jew!
    You don't need "Deck the Halls" or "Jingle Bell Rock"
    Cause you can spin a dreidel with Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock (both Jewish!)
    Put on your yarmulke
    Its time for Hanukkah
    The owner of the Seattle Supersonic-ahs
    Celebrates Hanukkah
    O.J. Simpson: not a Jew
    But guess who is?: Hall-of-famer Rod Carew (he converted)
    We got Ann Landers and her sister Dear Abby
    Harrison Ford's a quarter Jewish - not too shabby!"

    Replies: @Roderick Spode, @danand

    “They keep track of who is part of the Tribe.”

    Good on them, group/tribe cohesion, support, mentoring, and defending is necessary if it’s members are going to thrive. Unfortunately for many there is an instinctive (genetic) desire to make it as “lone eagles”; but in a world bristling with grouped poachers, that instinct makes prospects for survival precarious.

    “Seattle City council member Lisa Herbold suggests firing white officers in massive reduction of police.”

    434AAF6F-BE8E-46B8-91AA-B0DE90899F39

    “Hanukkah Song, Adam Sandler.”

  191. @Thomas
    @Thomm


    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the ‘Jews are bad’ wing of White Nationalism fails.
     
    High-trust/high-performance culture meets low-trust/high-performance culture. Throw some of the genetics on COMT and MAOA alleles if you really want to go down a rabbit hole.

    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
     
    Relative cultural and racial distance, first-mover advantage, and the time it takes to develop a well-placed elite with ties to the mother country. China was a backwards Communist country that had destroyed its own culture and economy twice over after WWII until the 1970s. They certainly are trying to make up for lost time in the influence racket. Israel can't manipulate Russia because Russia is ruled by authoritarians of its own racial stock, rather than being a democracy whose population can be manipulated by media, culture and education. Europe's Jews were eliminated by WWII and its aftermath, and its multitude of countries, languages, and media environments are harder to collectively manipulate than a vast, monolingual country with a national financial and media market and a fixed two-party political system.

    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.
     
    Not even close to the same situation. Blacks are a minority that was forced to live as a subordinate racial caste amidst a majority (for now) that has measurable average intellectual and socioeconomic advantages over them. Their situation was going to be objectively lousy no matter what, without any conspiracy or hegemony needed to explain it.

    There are so very, very many examples of ruling dynasties made up of alien minorities throughout history that to treat the existence of one as dubious is either very ignorant or is in bad faith. Many of the dynasties that have ruled China over the past 1,800 years were dominated by non-Han Chinese. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_dynasty)

    In Western history, Britain was ruled by a succession of invaders (Celts, Romans, Angles, Saxons, Danes, and French). Classical Greece was dominated by a series of individual hegemonic minority powers in turn (Athens, Sparta, Thebes and Macedon). Rome dominated an empire in which the majority of those who lived in it were not citizens. The idea of majority democratic rule as the norm in the world, as opposed to some sort of minoritarian rule by an elite, is hardly even a century old.

    And even in modern times, if you want to find examples of dominant minority ethnic groups, you can look at, to cite a few examples, Overseas Chinese in Southeast Asia, Afrikaners in South Africa, Sunni Arabs in Ba'athist Iraq, Alawites in Syria, Tutsis in Rwanda, Indians in East Africa, or Lebanese in Latin America.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Anon, @Nico

    Europe’s Jews were eliminated by WWII and its aftermath, and its multitude of countries, languages, and media environments are harder to collectively manipulate than a vast, monolingual country with a national financial and media market and a fixed two-party political system.

    Israel nevertheless has considerable influence in the E.U., the most obvious being of course indirect, through NATO which is basically the United States Overseas.

    However, there is also a not insignificant number of chattery Jews on TV and in the academy in France in particular, probably owing to the Algerian Jews’ unwillingness to pass from French rule to Islamic rule.

    Perhaps the most noxious channel of influence however comes via chiefly center-right political formatons like Sarkozy’s UMP which through a combination of bizarre internal “inspired” figure and outside bankrolling encourages activists to ape American conservatism including its Chamber-of-Commerce-serving delusions of classical liberalism as conservatism or the delusion that Israel is a liberal democracy or that her interests always converge with those of the West.

  192. @Negrolphin Pool
    @Thomm


    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks.
     
    From what I've seen, this is simply not true. The median black family has only a small fraction of the median white family's wealth. While Jews are hugely overrepresented at the pinnacle of wealth accumulation, which is probably a good proxy for the total wealth under Jewish control, this does not imply that average Jews are dramatically outperforming average white gentiles. I believe the median Jewish net worth is perhaps only twice that of the median gentile white.

    This is a huge qualitative difference because, at that point, we are counting who has more cars in the garage rather than if they even have a roof over their head.


    The primary factors behind Jewish success in wealth accumulation are ethnic nepotism, including financial networking, and elevated business ruthlessness. Look at the background of NY slumlords. Look at the ethnic backgrounds of those involved in the notorious LBO corporate raiding of the 1980s. Jews tend to reduce business to war: hard-boiled mercenaries against, rather than in service of, the market. Or look at the shocking disproportion of the "white" perps featured on "American Greed" who happen to have Jewish surnames or obvious Jewface. There is little doubt that, on average, Jews have a less developed sense of fair play and have no compunction about employing that strength to their game-theoretic advantage.

    On the other hand, gentile whites are often deeply concerned with fairness in their business dealings and merit in who they hire, with nepotism of any kind, particularly ethnic, actively shunned. Are black Americans more like Jews in this respect or more like gentiles? That blacks aren't able to replicate the success of Jews despite having the key ingredients for Jewish-style competitive dominance only serves to highlight their shortcomings, which are mostly accounted for by critically lower average intelligence — you don't need great brains to get rich, nor can you easily hold stacks while dragging your knuckles — lower future orientation and an absence of whatever vital spark drives the entrepreneur to surmount any hurdle.


    Then again, the half-Jews should have only half-weight, and many further down the list are half-Jews. If weighted in this manner down the entire table, the weighted Jewish proportion probably falls from 33.25% to 27-28%.
     
    It also makes sense to adjust for familial dynastic wealth because the fortune of, for instance, the Waltons all comes from the same source. Even financially adept scions like the Koch brothers were born on third base. Only counting as one entry all scions from the same family would push the number of arguable Jews in the top 20 richest Americans to either 50 or 55 percent, depending on if Rupert Murdoch is half Jewish. This ignores weighting, but weighting by genetics is unlikely to matter all that much because the determining factor will be the extent to which the individuals identify as Jews as well as the extent to which they are identified as Jews by their coethnics.

    Taking 50 percent, this does represent an incredible skew towards Jewish domination among the very richest. A cumulative probability calculator gives the probability that a group representing 2 percent of a society ends up as half of its richest members by luck alone as being statistically zero. The actual probability is, I believe, something like one in 10 trillion.


    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the ‘Jews are bad’ wing of White Nationalism fails.
    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.
     
    1)Ethnic nepotism characterized by exclusionary financial networking. Also, no one claims that Jews control everything. They effectively control key areas that they leverage to conduct ethnic warfare.

    2)Many gentiles cannot identify Jews even by their surnames, much less their phyzz. No one would mistake a Chinaman for a roundeye. 2b) New York City has, by far, the most Jews of any single city. This is the result of America's historic amenability to Jewish infiltration, far more than Russia or EU.

    3)See above. Enslavement many generations ago plays zero role in the continuing dysfunction of blacks. It holds zero weight. You can't get weaker than zero.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jack D, @Corvinus, @Steve Sailer

    To take a single data point: the Jewish guy I went to MBA school with who became “America’s highest paid female CEO:”

    He made 2 fortunes, both off inventing useful things:

    – Satellite radio
    – A cure for the disease plaguing one of the children he fathered.

    His classmates found his egomania hard to deal with, but I can’t begrudge him his 2 fortunes.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Steve Sailer


    – Satellite radio
    – A cure for the disease plaguing one of the children he fathered.

    His classmates found his egomania hard to deal with, but I can’t begrudge him his 2 fortunes.
     
    Good for him. He still isn't a female.
    , @Negrolphin Pool
    @Steve Sailer

    True genius entrepreneurs are heavily represented in the top 20 among the Jews there. I would say Larry Page, Larry Ellison, James Simons and Mark Zuckerberg clearly fit that description whereas Adelson and Dell do not. Does Ballmer?

    And does that pattern hold true as you descend down the list? Dipping below 20th place, adjusted for dynastic entries, you start running into a lot of guys like Carl "if you ain't born with it, borrow it" Icahn, Soros, Ron Perelman and Donald Bren. I don't want to discount their intelligence or entrepreneurial drive, but they all made their fortunes by following pedestrian means if to a superlative degree.

    Replies: @Hibernian

  193. @Digital Samizdat
    You gotta wonder why no Rockefellers ever appear on any of these lists. I have he same issue with the international lists where no Rothschilds ever appear. I don't imagine these lists are terribly accurate. I prefer to think of them more as a very exclusive version of Who's Who in ... for rich people.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Steve Sailer

    There are a lot of Rockefellers, Vanderbilts, Astors, and DuPonts. Perhaps Hearsts as well.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Steve Sailer

    Three Rockefellers have been governors of various US states. The most famous living Vanderbilt is that gay newscaster. The most famous DuPont is that crazy one who killed the wrestler. None of them have been especially productive.

    , @Ben tillman
    @Steve Sailer

    I worked with a guy who was involved with a Rockefeller. Went to a Christmas party at the Rockefeller’s house on the old family land at Beekman Place, a block north of the UN building.

  194. @Gordo
    If White privilege was real most people would be afraid to talk about it and it would never be mentioned in the mainstream media.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Chrisnonymous

    Classic Moldbug! (Witch trials are the surest proof against the existence of witches.)

  195. @Anonymous
    @Digital Samizdat

    David Rockefeller who died several years ago at over 100 years of age, was on the billionaires list with roughly 2 billion. Forbes estimates the great family fortunes, which have long since dispersed to dozens or even hundreds and thousands of descendants wives etc here:


    https://www.forbes.com/families/list/#tab:overall

    The Duponts, Mellons, Rockefellers stilll have vast fortunes they are simply split up down to the quiet daughter who likes horses rather than the city.



    There are several rothschilds in Europe with centi million fortunes as well.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    The Rothschild’s used to practice first cousin marriage and even, twice, uncle-niece marriage to keep the money in the family.

    I presume they stopped?

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    @Steve Sailer


    I presume they stopped?
     
    NGO's and Foundations have largely resolved this problem. Family wealth and influence now live forever in the non-profit (tax free) sector and their lucrative investment divisions.
  196. Anonymous[323] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dumbo
    Nothing to see here, move along.

    Jewish organizations usually report that Jews make up 2.2% of the U.S. population,
     
    It's more, especially if you count "half-Jews", "1/4 Jews", etc. I think "Jewish organizations" tend to undercount the number of living Jews and overcount the number of dead ones (in holocausts, pogroms, etc).

    Replies: @Anonymous

    It’s certainly an undercount, possibly a big one. A lot of Jews are paranoid about government knowing who they are and prefer not to identify themselves as Jews on censuses and suchlike. (The religious ones even have theological justifications for this I believe. Something about it being forbidden to count Jews.)

    Basically, nobody (not even Jewish organisations) really knows how many Jews there are in the U.S. or any other country where ethnicity is determined by self-identification.

  197. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    The Rothschild's used to practice first cousin marriage and even, twice, uncle-niece marriage to keep the money in the family.

    I presume they stopped?

    Replies: @Clifford Brown

    I presume they stopped?

    NGO’s and Foundations have largely resolved this problem. Family wealth and influence now live forever in the non-profit (tax free) sector and their lucrative investment divisions.

  198. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    @Franz

    Murray Bernays, beloved of FDR, was a Jew largely responsible for switching the idea of a "war crimes" tribunal from a trial of soldiers who had broken the accepted laws of war to a trial of crimes committed before the war, or of crimes committed by a government against their own citizens.

    (Imagine, if you will, that Russia, following a conquest of America, tried American officials for the "war crime" of the 1993 siege of Waco, the "war crime" of abortion, or the "war crime" of the invasion of Iraq ... actually, I guess that last one isn't so crazy...)

    Roosevelt's Secretary of War, Stimson, criticized the Joint Chiefs of Staff for their original proposal, which would, like all previous war crimes trials, have followed the convention that the US, like all other countries, may put enemy warriors on trial for the same sorts of crimes for which we may try our own soldiers.


    Bernays, special aide to Robert Jackson, received the Legion of Merit from the Roosevelt administration on the following grounds: “Early recognizing the need for a sound basis in dealing with the problem of war criminals and war crimes, he formulated the basic concept of such a policy and initiated timely and appropriate action which assured its adoption as the foundation of national policy.”


    Here's what Bernays told American press about Nuremberg:


    “There are a good many Nazi criminals who will get off if the roundups aren’t conducted efficiently. But if we establish that the SS, for example, was a criminal organization, and that membership in it is evidence per se of criminality, the Allies are going to get hold of a great many more criminals in one swoop. You know, a lot of people here at home don’t realize that we are now the government of Germany in our zone and that no judicial system can exist other than one we approve. We are the law. If we wanted to, for instance, could try Germans for crimes twenty, thirty, forty years old. We’ll be too busy with the current crop of war criminals, though, to have much time to look into ancient wrongdoings.”
     
    It was not a trial. It was a frame-up. One of the Soviet "judges," a Nikitchenko, said before the trial, "...we are dealing here with the chief war criminals who have already been convicted." This "trial" made a deliberate mockery of old American beliefs about how a trial is supposed to work.

    This was one of the most shameful episodes in all of history. Against the will of the American people, we fought World War Two to destroy other nations and fulfill Jewish revenge fantasies against their old enemies.

    Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan, @AnotherDad

    This was one of the most shameful episodes in all of history. Against the will of the American people, we fought World War Two to destroy other nations and fulfill Jewish revenge fantasies against their old enemies.

    Huh?

    Our war against the Filipinos getting their independence was “shameful”.

    Nuremburg trials? Most shameful? You’ve got to be kidding. Yeah they legally they were a joke, but not the least bit “shameful”.

    The Nazis’ imperialism dragged Europe into another incredibly bloody war–against the will of the German people, if that has something to do with your standard–causing millions of deaths and immense suffering. Stringing up a few of the Nazis was responsible was a morally required–if tepid–response.

    Actually it would be goodness if every war ended up with the losing side’s leaders strung up. That would be an incentive … not to go rushing off to war. Europe had bloody history in part because rulers could at a whim go to their Jewish bankers for more money to fight. And win or lose–they are still alive, the Jewish bankers (usually) still solvent, but a bunch of young men killed and mutilated, a bunch of women raped, and all the people under the boot of more taxation to pay more debt. “You lose you die” … we’d have had less war.

    It wouldn’t be a terrible idea for America to have a rule that if the President wants to go to war he submits himself to execution. War should be a “this more important than my life” deal. Cause that’s what it will be for some of the young men fighting it.

    Heck, the Nazis justly deserved execution simply for what they wrought–
    — handing Stalin the Soviets Eastern Europe
    — giving the Jews the Holocaust cudgel to beat whites
    — given the Jews a handy slur–“Nazi!”–to smear nationalist patriots. Since they invaded twenty something nations, they should have called themselves the German Imperialist Party (DIPs) and left us nationalists out of it.

    Yeah, the War had lots of unpunished evil doers–e.g. Stalin. The roots of the 20th Century’s conflicts were in–particularly British and French–imperialism and the US should never have intervened in The Great War without resolving imperialism as “the past” to be parted with and nationalism as the right of all peoples. But rounding up a bunch of this Nazi scum and hanging ’em. Count me unashamed.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @AnotherDad


    Stringing up a few of the Nazis was responsible was a morally required–if tepid–response.
     
    Not by us.

    Even Theodore Sorensen John F Kennedy admitted that in Profiles in Courage.

    The closet case with the toothbrush mustache was Europe's problem, not ours. We had enough to deal with protecting our colonial possessions in the Philippines, Hawaii, and Alaska.
    , @Jack D
    @AnotherDad


    Heck, the Nazis justly deserved execution simply for what they wrought–
    ....
    — giving the Jews the Holocaust cudgel to beat whites
     
    Killing 6 million Jews (as well as tens of millions of others) - no problem, not even worth mentioning.

    Giving giving the Jews the Holocaust cudgel to beat whites with - now THAT's a problem.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton, @AnotherDad

    , @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    @AnotherDad


    Nuremburg trials? Most shameful? You’ve got to be kidding. Yeah they legally they were a joke, but not the least bit “shameful”.
     
    On what planet does this make any sense?:

    If the Germans were so guilty, then why did the trials have to be a sham? If the Germans were so guilty, why were the trials "legally ... a joke"?
    I swear, do some of you people even think before posting?

    If something is a "joke" legally, then it's a joke morally. That's the ancient position of the Anglo-American common law tradition.

    And, speaking of morals, why did the Allies need to torture the defendants to get false confessions? Is that something that would typically need to happen in a case where the defendant was obviously evil and obviously guilty?

  199. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @anonymous


    The US is 59% white. The top 100 billionaires are 97% white. A Persian, Pakistani, and Chinese. It helps keep perspective.
     
    Interestingly, if you control for single fortunes that have been divided among multiple heirs, family members, ex-wives, etc., and subtract the 3 non-whites, you get 35 of the top 80 white US billionaires being Jewish.

    That makes the Jewish percentage 43.75%, and the white gentile percentage 56.25%.

    With Jewish Americans estimated to be about 2.2% of the population, and the US about 59% white, that means the white gentile percentage of 56.25% of top billionaires is almost exactly representative, while Jews are overrepresented by a factor of around 20.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    Another interesting angle is that none of the Jewish fortunes are inherited, while a significant proportion of the white gentile fortunes, 40% appear to be.

    If we remove the 25 inherited fortunes from this list, that means 35 out of the 75 are Jewish, for a Jewish percentage of 46.67%.

    3 out of the 75 are non-white, so the white gentile percentage would be 49.33%.

    So among the 72 non-inherited white fortunes, almost exactly half are Jewish at 35 vs. 37 white gentile fortunes.

  200. @Steve Sailer
    @Negrolphin Pool

    To take a single data point: the Jewish guy I went to MBA school with who became "America's highest paid female CEO:"

    He made 2 fortunes, both off inventing useful things:

    - Satellite radio
    - A cure for the disease plaguing one of the children he fathered.

    His classmates found his egomania hard to deal with, but I can't begrudge him his 2 fortunes.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Negrolphin Pool

    – Satellite radio
    – A cure for the disease plaguing one of the children he fathered.

    His classmates found his egomania hard to deal with, but I can’t begrudge him his 2 fortunes.

    Good for him. He still isn’t a female.

  201. @syonredux
    @Jack D


    It would not disturb me greatly if that power were openly and frankly used to punish the German leaders for being a bad lot, but it disturbs me some to have it dressed up in the habiliments of the Common Law and the constitutional safeguards to those charged with crime.
     
    As near as I can tell, Stone would have been more-or-less OK with just extra-judicially executing various top top Nazis. He simply didn't like "hav[ing] it dressed up" in legal clothing. Here's another quote from Stone that reinforces the point:

    I don't mind what he does to the Nazis, but I hate to see the pretense that he is running a court and proceeding according to common law. This is a little too sanctimonious a fraud to meet my old-fashioned ideas
     
    And Jackson himself had qualms about what he was doing:

    [The Allies] have done or are doing some of the very things we are prosecuting the Germans for. The French are so violating the Geneva Convention in the treatment of prisoners of war that our command is taking back prisoners sent to them. We are prosecuting plunder and our Allies are practising it. We say aggressive war is a crime and one of our allies asserts sovereignty over the Baltic States based on no title except conquest.

     

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad

    So Senator Robert Taft had judicial allies in his classifying the Nuremberg Trials as extrajudicial show trials.

  202. @AnotherDad
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan


    This was one of the most shameful episodes in all of history. Against the will of the American people, we fought World War Two to destroy other nations and fulfill Jewish revenge fantasies against their old enemies.
     
    Huh?

    Our war against the Filipinos getting their independence was "shameful".

    Nuremburg trials? Most shameful? You've got to be kidding. Yeah they legally they were a joke, but not the least bit "shameful".

    The Nazis' imperialism dragged Europe into another incredibly bloody war--against the will of the German people, if that has something to do with your standard--causing millions of deaths and immense suffering. Stringing up a few of the Nazis was responsible was a morally required--if tepid--response.

    Actually it would be goodness if every war ended up with the losing side's leaders strung up. That would be an incentive ... not to go rushing off to war. Europe had bloody history in part because rulers could at a whim go to their Jewish bankers for more money to fight. And win or lose--they are still alive, the Jewish bankers (usually) still solvent, but a bunch of young men killed and mutilated, a bunch of women raped, and all the people under the boot of more taxation to pay more debt. "You lose you die" ... we'd have had less war.

    It wouldn't be a terrible idea for America to have a rule that if the President wants to go to war he submits himself to execution. War should be a "this more important than my life" deal. Cause that's what it will be for some of the young men fighting it.


    Heck, the Nazis justly deserved execution simply for what they wrought--
    -- handing Stalin the Soviets Eastern Europe
    -- giving the Jews the Holocaust cudgel to beat whites
    -- given the Jews a handy slur--"Nazi!"--to smear nationalist patriots. Since they invaded twenty something nations, they should have called themselves the German Imperialist Party (DIPs) and left us nationalists out of it.

    Yeah, the War had lots of unpunished evil doers--e.g. Stalin. The roots of the 20th Century's conflicts were in--particularly British and French--imperialism and the US should never have intervened in The Great War without resolving imperialism as "the past" to be parted with and nationalism as the right of all peoples. But rounding up a bunch of this Nazi scum and hanging 'em. Count me unashamed.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Jack D, @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    Stringing up a few of the Nazis was responsible was a morally required–if tepid–response.

    Not by us.

    Even Theodore Sorensen John F Kennedy admitted that in Profiles in Courage.

    The closet case with the toothbrush mustache was Europe’s problem, not ours. We had enough to deal with protecting our colonial possessions in the Philippines, Hawaii, and Alaska.

  203. @Reg Cæsar
    @anonymous coward

    They could write a tune, and you can't.

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong

    Weren’t Paul and George RC?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Jack Armstrong

    There were 2 1/2 Irish Beatles, Paul, John, and 1/2 of George. Who was Catholic, whether practicing or nominal, I don't know.

  204. @Anonymous
    @Thomm

    Ira,

    You are quite right that Whites' complaints about Jews sound similar to Blacks' complaints about Whites. This is because they are both complaining about a Jewish-run society. However, Black people refuse to acknowledge that the White Jews who run the society are a separate group from the White Gentiles who go along with it and support it. This is understandable because to separate the two would be, for Blacks, to give a free pass to the White Gentiles who acquiesce and support destructive Jewish-led policies.

    The same Jews in Hollywood who humiliate Black men on screen, create the anti-White (anti-Gentile) narratives as well. The same people are causing the problems for both groups, that's why the complaints are so similar. The same AIPAC-bought and ADL-bullied politicians betray White Gentiles and Black constituents alike in order to prioritize Jewish interests. The same corporate boardrooms are hostile to Blacks and White Gentiles.

    The confusion arises because Ashkenazi Jews have White skin, and call themselves White most of the time, in order to coax the more numerous Gentiles into performing whatever behavior the Jewish leaders desire, often centering around self-flagellation and denouncing "whiteness" (denouncing themselves.)

    What Blacks call White Supremacy is actually Jewish Supremacy, with a few benefits grandfathered in for White Gentiles. Jews own the plantation, White Gentiles are the House slaves and Blacks and Brown people are the field slaves.

    Technically you are wrong about them being similar phenomena, they are the same phenomena.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Just to set things straight

    Ashkenazi Jews are so not white that the Nazis didn’t need to have them wear some marker, e.g. the star of David, to distinguish them from the general population and they sure didn’t need to dig up family records to make sure every Jew was accounted for. They look so not white that it would be impossible for a Jew to pose as a German soldier in the Berliner Tageblatt. Literally impossible.

    • Replies: @VinnyVette
    @Just to set things straight

    They're white, Caucasian. Sources for your claim about the Nazi's?

  205. @Sean

    Interestingly, if you control for single fortunes that have been divided among multiple heirs ....
     
    Yes. When Patty Hearst was kidnapped her father had to take out a loan for the $4 million food giveaway the SLA demanded. Remember that these lists are drawn up by journalists who are accurate when they are assessing self made men with apparently non diversified holdings. In reality the highly secretive 'family offices' of the self made super rich mean most of them have greatly increased their original fortune, while the inherited people are the ones who are much overestimated. Enduring wealth that exists is usually tied up in trusts or of frittered away in wild schemes. Look what happened to the Hunt brothers.

    Of course Thomas Piketty would argue with that and say it is the old hereditary fortunes that are being underestimated, but I would point out that for many years the (anti royal Murdoch) Sunday Times rich list had the Queen as the wealthiest person in the world. Ludicrous. Forbes is a magazine for rich folks so it pretends the historically wealthy families can hand the wealth down for generations as if it was like the name. It can't, Gates has had to give his away to a foundation in order to keep it intact.

    Ghislaine Maxwell is was the favourite daughter of a billionaire and partner of another one, and she has at least one self made centimillionaire sibling. The FBI cannot believe she has only the 20 million total worth they can find and in calling her a flight risk, accuse her of having a vast hidden fortune. Jesse Livermore's middle aged great granddaughter is still toiling as a porn performer.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    The 20 million they can find, and her network of friends, make her a flight risk. Plus she’s a french citizen, and, if she manages to reach French soil, she’ll likely never be extradited to the US.

  206. @Bardon Kaldian
    I suppose Steve is sensitive to the issue of material wealth because life was not especially generous to him in that regard, at least, that's what many of us think.

    Just, that's either the price of being a different drummer or simply karma, dharma, kismet....

    For instance- which is Jared Taylor's net worth?

    Ann Coulter's net worth is, according to Internet, $ 8.5 million. And she is, let's be frank, a joke. Her books suck. Nobody with half a brain could take her rants seriously (although she is right about some issues).

    Gavin McInnes- $ 10 million.

    This country is very, very generous toward clowns & comedians. Others need not apply.

    Speaking of Jews, much worthier people than those Steve had listed do have reasonably affluent existences, but in comparison with those mentioned- they're modest. Edward Witten has increased his wealth only because he has gotten some money from a bragging science philantropist; and browsing aimlessly through the Web, I've encountered the story about- I think they're both Jews- mathematician Maria Chudnovsky & her artistic husband Daniel, how they bought a house: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/12/realestate/striking-while-the-iron-is-hot.html

    This is, I guess, a wealthy home, but they've barely succeeded after a long search. And these people have, I suppose, a stratospheric IQ in comparison with those on the list. The truth is, the people who really made & are making global progress in the world, whichever ethnicity- are, generally, not too moneyed.

    So much about IQ reductionism.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    Ann Coulter’s net worth is, according to Internet, $ 8.5 million. And she is, let’s be frank, a joke.

    Never trust a smokejumper, bruh.

  207. @syonredux
    @Jack D


    It would not disturb me greatly if that power were openly and frankly used to punish the German leaders for being a bad lot, but it disturbs me some to have it dressed up in the habiliments of the Common Law and the constitutional safeguards to those charged with crime.
     
    As near as I can tell, Stone would have been more-or-less OK with just extra-judicially executing various top top Nazis. He simply didn't like "hav[ing] it dressed up" in legal clothing. Here's another quote from Stone that reinforces the point:

    I don't mind what he does to the Nazis, but I hate to see the pretense that he is running a court and proceeding according to common law. This is a little too sanctimonious a fraud to meet my old-fashioned ideas
     
    And Jackson himself had qualms about what he was doing:

    [The Allies] have done or are doing some of the very things we are prosecuting the Germans for. The French are so violating the Geneva Convention in the treatment of prisoners of war that our command is taking back prisoners sent to them. We are prosecuting plunder and our Allies are practising it. We say aggressive war is a crime and one of our allies asserts sovereignty over the Baltic States based on no title except conquest.

     

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @AnotherDad

    Stone was right.

    These Nazi goons richly deserved execution for their role in dragging the world through this horror.

    Wrapping all sorts of pompous legal b.s. around it was bogus and actually a disservice to civilization.

  208. @Jack Armstrong
    @Reg Cæsar

    Weren’t Paul and George RC?

    Replies: @Hibernian

    There were 2 1/2 Irish Beatles, Paul, John, and 1/2 of George. Who was Catholic, whether practicing or nominal, I don’t know.

  209. @Anonymous
    @Lot


    All of the top 50 I know to be open Trump supporters are Jewish: Schwarzman, Adelson, Koum, Ichan.

     

    Interesting. Even expanding to the top 100 the notable Trump supporters are Jewish (Bob Kraft, Bernie Marcus).

    Then expanding to the top 200 billionaires you have Trump-supporting billionaire Russ Weiner (son of Michael Savage):


    https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/5e68ebb8e1e61700080e79cd/960x0.jpg

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinstoller/2020/03/11/rockstar-energy-drink-founder-cashing-out-for-nearly-4-billion-says-the-american-dream-is-alive-and-well/

     

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Redneck farmer, @LondonBob

    That guy (Michael Savage’s kid) could buy passports in 10 countries without batting an eyelid.

    Of course he’s going to say the American Dream is alive and well.

  210. @Anonymous
    @Lot


    All of the top 50 I know to be open Trump supporters are Jewish: Schwarzman, Adelson, Koum, Ichan.

     

    Interesting. Even expanding to the top 100 the notable Trump supporters are Jewish (Bob Kraft, Bernie Marcus).

    Then expanding to the top 200 billionaires you have Trump-supporting billionaire Russ Weiner (son of Michael Savage):


    https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/5e68ebb8e1e61700080e79cd/960x0.jpg

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinstoller/2020/03/11/rockstar-energy-drink-founder-cashing-out-for-nearly-4-billion-says-the-american-dream-is-alive-and-well/

     

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Redneck farmer, @LondonBob

    Rock Star Recovery is good stuff.

  211. @Jack D
    @Negrolphin Pool

    Since Jews were Levantine people to begin with and then mixed with the local Greek and Roman population when they came into the Roman Empire, it's completely understandable that they don't look all that different than Italians.

    People get confused with the Semite thing and assume that the ancient Jews looked like modern day Arabs. Modern Arabs mixed with their African slave children and ended up with a lot of African DNA (this also explains how they went from world beating conquerors to camel jockeys). But if you look at unmixed Levantine people (Lebanese Christians, Samaritans) they not are unlike other Mediterranean white people:

    {Samaritans below}

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Flickr_-_Government_Press_Office_%28GPO%29_-_Samaritans_praying_during_Passover_holiday_ceremony_on_mount_Grizim.jpg/440px-Flickr_-_Government_Press_Office_%28GPO%29_-_Samaritans_praying_during_Passover_holiday_ceremony_on_mount_Grizim.jpg

    The older man with the glasses could be pretty much any older Jewish or Italian man.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Lot, @AnotherDad, @syonredux, @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    Here they’re looking at finer details. When they analyze the origins of the European component of Ashkenazi ancestry, they conclude that most is southern – probably Italian, but that smaller amounts originated from (probably) Western Europe and (more certainly) Eastern Europe: and in that temporal order. They conclude that the Italian admixture slightly predated a late medieval founder event. Different methods came up with somewhat different estimates for the total amount of European ancestry: the local ancestry inference (LAI) approach came up with 53% European, while the GLOBETROTTER analysis came up with an estimate of 67% European ancestry (after calibration by simulations). In their best guess, they split the difference and go for 60% European.

    To sum up, their model is that a population from the Levant mixed with Italians, and shortly thereafter moved to the Rhineland (the founding bottleneck), perhaps mixing to some degree with the local Europeans there, and certainly mixing some with Slavic types when they moved to the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

    https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2016/07/20/even-more-on-ashkenazi-ancestry/

  212. @AnotherDad
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan


    This was one of the most shameful episodes in all of history. Against the will of the American people, we fought World War Two to destroy other nations and fulfill Jewish revenge fantasies against their old enemies.
     
    Huh?

    Our war against the Filipinos getting their independence was "shameful".

    Nuremburg trials? Most shameful? You've got to be kidding. Yeah they legally they were a joke, but not the least bit "shameful".

    The Nazis' imperialism dragged Europe into another incredibly bloody war--against the will of the German people, if that has something to do with your standard--causing millions of deaths and immense suffering. Stringing up a few of the Nazis was responsible was a morally required--if tepid--response.

    Actually it would be goodness if every war ended up with the losing side's leaders strung up. That would be an incentive ... not to go rushing off to war. Europe had bloody history in part because rulers could at a whim go to their Jewish bankers for more money to fight. And win or lose--they are still alive, the Jewish bankers (usually) still solvent, but a bunch of young men killed and mutilated, a bunch of women raped, and all the people under the boot of more taxation to pay more debt. "You lose you die" ... we'd have had less war.

    It wouldn't be a terrible idea for America to have a rule that if the President wants to go to war he submits himself to execution. War should be a "this more important than my life" deal. Cause that's what it will be for some of the young men fighting it.


    Heck, the Nazis justly deserved execution simply for what they wrought--
    -- handing Stalin the Soviets Eastern Europe
    -- giving the Jews the Holocaust cudgel to beat whites
    -- given the Jews a handy slur--"Nazi!"--to smear nationalist patriots. Since they invaded twenty something nations, they should have called themselves the German Imperialist Party (DIPs) and left us nationalists out of it.

    Yeah, the War had lots of unpunished evil doers--e.g. Stalin. The roots of the 20th Century's conflicts were in--particularly British and French--imperialism and the US should never have intervened in The Great War without resolving imperialism as "the past" to be parted with and nationalism as the right of all peoples. But rounding up a bunch of this Nazi scum and hanging 'em. Count me unashamed.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Jack D, @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    Heck, the Nazis justly deserved execution simply for what they wrought–
    ….
    — giving the Jews the Holocaust cudgel to beat whites

    Killing 6 million Jews (as well as tens of millions of others) – no problem, not even worth mentioning.

    Giving giving the Jews the Holocaust cudgel to beat whites with – now THAT’s a problem.

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    @Jack D

    Jack, has the holocaust narrative been good for America?

    , @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    Heck, the Nazis justly deserved execution simply for what they wrought–
    ….
    — giving the Jews the Holocaust cudgel to beat whites
     
    Killing 6 million Jews (as well as tens of millions of others) – no problem, not even worth mentioning.

    Giving giving the Jews the Holocaust cudgel to beat whites with – now THAT’s a problem.
     Jack, i'm sorry my comment was not written with the precision and hard armoring to survive your tedious lawyering. (Ability to ignore context ... you could be a journalist!)

    I thought i pretty much covered my opinion of the Nazis program and stringing them up for it right up front. And lo and behold look what's there:

    Huh?

    Our war against the Filipinos getting their independence was “shameful”.

    Nuremburg trials? Most shameful? You’ve got to be kidding. Yeah they legally they were a joke, but not the least bit “shameful”.

    The Nazis’ imperialism dragged Europe into another incredibly bloody war–against the will of the German people, if that has something to do with your standard–causing millions of deaths and immense suffering. Stringing up a few of the Nazis was responsible was a morally required–if tepid–response.
     

    Seems reasonably clear to me. I'm "pro" on executing Nazis for rampaging through Europe killing people.

    What i was talking about in the later phrase--after a discursive ramble through the question of discouraging leaders from waging war too casually--was that beyond what they did, my take is the Nazis deserve hanging just for the mess they left behind. Words like "simply" and "wrought" and starting with the Soviet occupation and discussing only the post-War situation are sort of hints for the non-IQ challenged. I fully admit it could have been worded more clearly, but it's hardly opaque in context.

    Let me try again with Jewish lawyer proofing:

    Heck,

    beyond all their crimes of imperialistic war "causing millions of deaths and immense suffering--yes, including "the Holocaust"--which i just mentioned in few paragraphs above--...

    the Nazis also justly deserved execution simply for what they wrought (i.e. what was left behind after their waging imperialistic war and mass murder)–
    — handing Stalin the Soviets Eastern Europe
    — giving the Jews the Holocaust cudgel to beat whites
    — given the Jews a handy slur–“Nazi!”–to smear nationalist patriots. Since they invaded twenty something nations, they should have called themselves the German Imperialist Party (DIPs) and left us nationalists out of it.
     

    Interesting to reflect: Guys like me--generic white gentile, no particular natural animus against any other group--notice and call out ponderance of Jews in the sustained anti-republican, anti-national, anti-traditional, anti-Christian, anti-white assault on my nation and the West. Attacks that the Jews themselves often relate to their Jewishness and "Jewish values". I point out that Jews have driven the minoritarian ideology and that it is logically a middle-man minority ideology--in the self-interest of Jews. (We minorities are entitled to go anywhere and everywhere, majorities trying to stop us, to organize, to have borders, to have their own stuff, to pursue their own self-interest--illegitimate!, anti-Semitic!)

    These obsevations about Jews pushing the minoritarian ideology are reasonable--innumerable examples, over decades and continuing--and at least arguable and are about real issues, which are destroying my kids', the nation's, the West's future, you and others are quick to label as phony, unfair, biased, "anti-Semitic!".

    Yet, i let all of three paragraphs lapse between calling for the execution of Nazis for their war crimes and calling for the bonus execution of the Nazis simply for the post-war result of their recklessness ... you're ready with a bad-faith denunciation. (You've got the IQ to figure out what i was saying.)

    Apparently i didn't have the requisite hosannas to the holocaust. And yes, i do care most about the result and specifically *"the future"*. The people who died in the war are ... dead. Like the millions upon millions who've died--killed, raped, starved, taken by disease--in conflict down through the eons. I'm so hideously gentile that for me every waking moment isn't about denouncing the Amalekites. I care more about the future of my nation and civilization for my kids to inherit.

    Reflect on your bad faith here and maybe you'll get a little flash of insight into why the Jews end up being hated by the host populations they are middle manning.

  213. @Corn
    @M_Young

    If the Mars family is indeed an exception to that rule, it’s because they haven’t let the younger generation of Marses spoil themselves.

    I’ve read one or two articles over the years about the Marses and they have an incredible, workaholic work ethic. Even if you bear the surname Mars you are expected to punch a time clock five or six days a week and work ten, twelve, fourteen hours a day at the family business.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    The Marses are also very low profile. Mars has a giant presence in New Jersey, and when Jackie Mars was of working age she lived here. During that time she was our richest resident by far. Nevertheless, I wouldn’t be able to pick her out of a lineup.

  214. As far as I can tell, the highest position based on the wealth of an Arab is the Jobs family at 22. Jobs was fathered by a Syrian named Abdulfattah Jandali.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @ScarletNumber

    He's dead as you may be aware. Mother was white. His wife now controls the fortune, American white descended from Britain with their Children not being noticeably different than what you would have seen anywhere in Northern California as little as 25 years ago.

    That gets to the broader point about Page or Ellison, both of whom married and fathered children with model actor type white women. Ellisonnow has grandchildren who are getting to fractions of various ethnicity which not even Heydrich would have lost to much sleep over.

  215. Anonymous[238] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    @ben tillman


    3. Blacks don’t say *anything* about gentile whites as such. Instead, the political posture of blacks vis-a-vis whites is much more similar to that of Jews vis-a-vis gentile whites. Both blacks and Jews insist that gentile whites may not be autonomous. Both blacks and Jews claim the right to forcibly capture gentile whites’ positive externalities.
     
    Ben, thanks for this. This is one of the clearest statements of the core issue/ideology. Super important to understand.

    The Jewish demand is that Jews have some sort of divine right to middle man anywhere and everywhere, and gentiles saying "No thanks, rather do it myself" is illegitimate--anti-Semitic!, evil, fascist, Nazi! Whining about "Pale of Settlement" or the Golfocaust or nationalists (i.e. Nazis!) or immigration restrictionists--it's all the same thing. White people are not entitled to build and enjoy their own stuff.

    And the weird thing is--Jews actually believe it! They've convinced themselves that Jews are simply entitled to access to whites and their stuff. Whites are evil if they resist.

    This is why we have lost our freedom of association. Why we've had a coup against our Constitution of republican government, federalism and individual liberty and had it replaced by this "Civil Rights" constitution--of endless government bullying. Why whites were chased out of the neighborhoods, but are j'accused of the crime of "white flight"! Why white kids were forced out of their neighborhood school and bused across town to a black one. Why Christians have to bake cakes for faggy weddings. Why we have mobs of rioters in our streets, why statues of white men must be toppled, why our history must be erased. And most importantly--why white nations must be flooded with foreigners.

    Important to note the Jewish ideology--minoritarianism--is not "we're all in this together". Jews are the great rejecters of Western Christian integration, marry-the-girl-next-door, one-peoplism in favor of maintaining their own tribalism. No, Jews (and ergo "minorities") are entitled to their tribalism, their own stuff, but gentiles are not. Whites and their stuff belong to everyone. There's no argument minoritarianism in morality or logic. Just sheer "what's good for the Jews" sociopathy.

    The Jewish demand is not "let my people go!" it is "you must let me in! you can not say 'no'". It is the ideology of the rapist.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    Great post, AnotherDad.

    To the extent that we get pissed off by the continued persecution, have more children, encourage your children to do so, work hard and smart to provide for them, educate them and others. Let the flow of your dollars take into account who is white akin to how the Jews determine their own, both genetically and culturally – are they on our team or are they traitors? And resist in subtle but effective ways.

  216. @Steve Sailer
    @Digital Samizdat

    There are a lot of Rockefellers, Vanderbilts, Astors, and DuPonts. Perhaps Hearsts as well.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Ben tillman

    Three Rockefellers have been governors of various US states. The most famous living Vanderbilt is that gay newscaster. The most famous DuPont is that crazy one who killed the wrestler. None of them have been especially productive.

  217. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad


    Heck, the Nazis justly deserved execution simply for what they wrought–
    ....
    — giving the Jews the Holocaust cudgel to beat whites
     
    Killing 6 million Jews (as well as tens of millions of others) - no problem, not even worth mentioning.

    Giving giving the Jews the Holocaust cudgel to beat whites with - now THAT's a problem.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton, @AnotherDad

    Jack, has the holocaust narrative been good for America?

  218. @Jack D
    @Negrolphin Pool

    Since Jews were Levantine people to begin with and then mixed with the local Greek and Roman population when they came into the Roman Empire, it's completely understandable that they don't look all that different than Italians.

    People get confused with the Semite thing and assume that the ancient Jews looked like modern day Arabs. Modern Arabs mixed with their African slave children and ended up with a lot of African DNA (this also explains how they went from world beating conquerors to camel jockeys). But if you look at unmixed Levantine people (Lebanese Christians, Samaritans) they not are unlike other Mediterranean white people:

    {Samaritans below}

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Flickr_-_Government_Press_Office_%28GPO%29_-_Samaritans_praying_during_Passover_holiday_ceremony_on_mount_Grizim.jpg/440px-Flickr_-_Government_Press_Office_%28GPO%29_-_Samaritans_praying_during_Passover_holiday_ceremony_on_mount_Grizim.jpg

    The older man with the glasses could be pretty much any older Jewish or Italian man.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Lot, @AnotherDad, @syonredux, @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    The tall man to his right even looks Anglo.
    Any explaining that?

  219. anon[148] • Disclaimer says:
    @BobX
    Here is an interesting episode of Bret Weinstein's podcast. I love Glenn he is always worth listening to. With no fear they face and discuss the racial disparity in crime rates. What is interesting specifically related to this thread is Bret's strange formation of economic disparity as hoarded good luck that causes the black community to have an artificially high level of bad luck. I would note that just as it is true that black crime rates are higher, it is also true that Bret's own tribe has a higher rate of representation in that group doing the hoarding of good luck (Strange that he does not acknowledge that).

    I would have it that we need to hold all elite "hoarders of good luck" accountable for their loyalty to their fellow US citizens. Some have been, but they are rare and i would suggest perhaps not equally distributed.

    Group mean impacts tail density at given thresholds but does not imply a restricted tail and outliers exist everyone should be evaluated as an individual.

    I believe that basic human rights and human dignity derive from our shared humanity, not from uniformity in ability or genetic makeup

    https://youtu.be/pHGt733yw3g

    Replies: @anon

    Dude, it’s effectively 2 hours long. Maybe that’s fine for you but some of us have a few time constraints. If there’s something special in there, point to it in hours:minutes because 2 hours of basically someone else’s Zoom conference I’m not getting paid to view or participate in… is just too much.

  220. anon[148] • Disclaimer says:
    @Giancarlo M. Kumquat
    OT,but does anybody have any pertinent info about this Chrissy Tiegen stuff?

    Replies: @anon


    OT,but does anybody have any pertinent info about this Chrissy Tiegen stuff?

    Nothing to be seen. Sure, she flew on Epstein’s airplane a few times, and all of a sudden she decided to delete 60,000 tweets…and some of the tweets are more than just strange…but, eh, nothing to see here, citizen. Move along!

    https://www.themix.net/2020/07/chrissy-teigen-deletes-60k-tweets-after-being-named-on-epsteins-flight-log/

  221. @Mr McKenna
    Only 35%? Are they slipping? Also, let's do the major media companies now.

    Also, I'd swear that Bezos guy, no matter what anyone says. It's a vibe.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    He’s a Jew in every other sense of the word.

  222. @Bill Jones
    @Thomm

    The characteristics, including honesty and openness, that make white society so successful, make it vulnerable to those who do not share those characteristics.
    That would be you.

    Replies: @dreydl smasher, @Lurker

    oh i see now it’s because you’re superior lol omg MY SIDES! YOU WILL RULE AGAIN IN WA’NAKA!

  223. And this has what to do with me? I don’t know any of these super-rich people. I am a retired lawyer (daughter of a machinist and a registered nurse) who put my now-retired husband (son of a mail handler and a public schoolteacher) through medical school. Great Society opportunities provided the “lift” that helped us secure our professional educations. Our sons are a psychiatrist and an attorney. We gave them the best educations we could and are assisting them in providing the best education for our grandson and four granddaughters. We aren’t part of any conspiracy, just trying to live good lives and engage in religious, charitable, and political giving. We love our (non-Jewish) daughters-in-law and are grateful for our strong marriage of 52 years and for the happiness that our sons found with their respective life partners.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @ManhattanBorn

    Thanks for sharing

  224. @Bill Jones
    @Thomm

    The characteristics, including honesty and openness, that make white society so successful, make it vulnerable to those who do not share those characteristics.
    That would be you.

    Replies: @dreydl smasher, @Lurker

    He has claimed to be a street shi**er but may actually be a chicken swinger.

  225. @Steve Sailer
    @Negrolphin Pool

    To take a single data point: the Jewish guy I went to MBA school with who became "America's highest paid female CEO:"

    He made 2 fortunes, both off inventing useful things:

    - Satellite radio
    - A cure for the disease plaguing one of the children he fathered.

    His classmates found his egomania hard to deal with, but I can't begrudge him his 2 fortunes.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Negrolphin Pool

    True genius entrepreneurs are heavily represented in the top 20 among the Jews there. I would say Larry Page, Larry Ellison, James Simons and Mark Zuckerberg clearly fit that description whereas Adelson and Dell do not. Does Ballmer?

    And does that pattern hold true as you descend down the list? Dipping below 20th place, adjusted for dynastic entries, you start running into a lot of guys like Carl “if you ain’t born with it, borrow it” Icahn, Soros, Ron Perelman and Donald Bren. I don’t want to discount their intelligence or entrepreneurial drive, but they all made their fortunes by following pedestrian means if to a superlative degree.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Negrolphin Pool

    I think Page and Brin were truly technical and entrepreneurial geniuses. Ellison and Gates were very competent technically and geniuses entrepreneurially. Not sure how to categorize Ballmer.

    Replies: @Lagertha

  226. @Mr. Anon
    @Lot


    All of the top 50 I know to be open Trump supporters are Jewish: Schwarzman, Adelson, Koum, Ichan.
     
    Adelson isn't a Trump supporter. Trump is an Adelson supporter.

    Replies: @SFG

    While that might be true for any other Republican (remember the Adelson primary?), I find it very hard to believe Trump is interested in anyone other than Trump.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @SFG


    While that might be true for any other Republican (remember the Adelson primary?), I find it very hard to believe Trump is interested in anyone other than Trump.
     
    That's true, but he still knows the value of taking care of your customers (or, rather, patrons). Adelson has donated a lot of money to Trump's campaign (going back to 2016). Trump returned the favor by hiring John "I am the Walrus" Bolton as National Security Advisor.
  227. @Lot
    @stillCARealist

    Progress is slow but steady:

    Trump won a majority of married Jewish men in 2016. He also won the Jewish parts of Brooklyn by landslide margins.

    Jews in UK block vote for the Conservative Party.

    Around 2005 Canadian Jews started voting for the conservative parties as much as other Canadian whites.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @SFG, @Ben tillman

    I will admit I’ve seen quite a few Jews on the *center* right–you see ’em on Fox News, which I don’t think you would have seen on the small local papers that would have been the equivalent back in the seventies, say. (People here would say that raises its own issues with concentration of power and ethnic interests–neocon entryism etc.–and I would say they have a very good point.)

    There’s a long and bloody history with the *far* right, I think.

  228. @ManhattanBorn
    And this has what to do with me? I don't know any of these super-rich people. I am a retired lawyer (daughter of a machinist and a registered nurse) who put my now-retired husband (son of a mail handler and a public schoolteacher) through medical school. Great Society opportunities provided the "lift" that helped us secure our professional educations. Our sons are a psychiatrist and an attorney. We gave them the best educations we could and are assisting them in providing the best education for our grandson and four granddaughters. We aren't part of any conspiracy, just trying to live good lives and engage in religious, charitable, and political giving. We love our (non-Jewish) daughters-in-law and are grateful for our strong marriage of 52 years and for the happiness that our sons found with their respective life partners.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    Thanks for sharing

  229. @Known Fact
    @gabriel alberton

    They just arrested his personal assistant, who also apparently was embezzling from the boss. With employees like that, who needs enemies?

    Replies: @gabriel alberton

    What I will say is mere wild speculation, and should not be taken as fact in any way. But could it be remotely possible that the arrested assistant, who reportedly owed the dead man tens of thousands of dollars, felt emboldened by the recent “defund the police” calls in New York City and that, in addition to his already present murderous tendencies, made him feel he could commit that crime and escape without being caught? That’s not a given, but it could be looked into.

  230. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @ScarletNumber
    As far as I can tell, the highest position based on the wealth of an Arab is the Jobs family at 22. Jobs was fathered by a Syrian named Abdulfattah Jandali.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    He’s dead as you may be aware. Mother was white. His wife now controls the fortune, American white descended from Britain with their Children not being noticeably different than what you would have seen anywhere in Northern California as little as 25 years ago.

    That gets to the broader point about Page or Ellison, both of whom married and fathered children with model actor type white women. Ellisonnow has grandchildren who are getting to fractions of various ethnicity which not even Heydrich would have lost to much sleep over.

  231. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Can we also talk about another often unspoken Jewish Privilege: Longevity and Health? They tend to have longer lives compared to Gentiles (not Asians), especially the Ashkenazi. Longer teleromes, less cancer, less heart disease, less Alzheimers etc, etc. is well documented and adds a few points of vibrancy to their stellar IQs, allows them to accumulate more wealth over a lifetime amd impart larger fortunes to heirs.

    https://nymag.com/news/features/ashkenazi-jews-2011-11/

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Thats almost certainly BS. Terrible diets, urban living, heavy smokers historically.

    Far northern races and island peoples mature slowest, reach greatest longevity broadly speaking.

  232. Apparently they conveniently left out the fact that blacks are inherently low IQ, lazy, grifters… And the fact that currently blacks dominate the entertainment and sportsball industries. But I digress… Black basketball players and rappers only make millions, not billions.

  233. @Steve Sailer
    @Digital Samizdat

    There are a lot of Rockefellers, Vanderbilts, Astors, and DuPonts. Perhaps Hearsts as well.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Ben tillman

    I worked with a guy who was involved with a Rockefeller. Went to a Christmas party at the Rockefeller’s house on the old family land at Beekman Place, a block north of the UN building.

  234. @Lot
    @stillCARealist

    Progress is slow but steady:

    Trump won a majority of married Jewish men in 2016. He also won the Jewish parts of Brooklyn by landslide margins.

    Jews in UK block vote for the Conservative Party.

    Around 2005 Canadian Jews started voting for the conservative parties as much as other Canadian whites.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @SFG, @Ben tillman

    It’s not about votes of peripheral Jews. It’s about the organized core and the resources it can marshal, which — votes notwithstanding— include resources of the personally less hostile Jews.

  235. How many new billionaires, trillionaires since
    Fed shipping out money by the cargo container
    to … who the hell knows?

  236. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    @ben tillman


    3. Blacks don’t say *anything* about gentile whites as such. Instead, the political posture of blacks vis-a-vis whites is much more similar to that of Jews vis-a-vis gentile whites. Both blacks and Jews insist that gentile whites may not be autonomous. Both blacks and Jews claim the right to forcibly capture gentile whites’ positive externalities.
     
    Ben, thanks for this. This is one of the clearest statements of the core issue/ideology. Super important to understand.

    The Jewish demand is that Jews have some sort of divine right to middle man anywhere and everywhere, and gentiles saying "No thanks, rather do it myself" is illegitimate--anti-Semitic!, evil, fascist, Nazi! Whining about "Pale of Settlement" or the Golfocaust or nationalists (i.e. Nazis!) or immigration restrictionists--it's all the same thing. White people are not entitled to build and enjoy their own stuff.

    And the weird thing is--Jews actually believe it! They've convinced themselves that Jews are simply entitled to access to whites and their stuff. Whites are evil if they resist.

    This is why we have lost our freedom of association. Why we've had a coup against our Constitution of republican government, federalism and individual liberty and had it replaced by this "Civil Rights" constitution--of endless government bullying. Why whites were chased out of the neighborhoods, but are j'accused of the crime of "white flight"! Why white kids were forced out of their neighborhood school and bused across town to a black one. Why Christians have to bake cakes for faggy weddings. Why we have mobs of rioters in our streets, why statues of white men must be toppled, why our history must be erased. And most importantly--why white nations must be flooded with foreigners.

    Important to note the Jewish ideology--minoritarianism--is not "we're all in this together". Jews are the great rejecters of Western Christian integration, marry-the-girl-next-door, one-peoplism in favor of maintaining their own tribalism. No, Jews (and ergo "minorities") are entitled to their tribalism, their own stuff, but gentiles are not. Whites and their stuff belong to everyone. There's no argument minoritarianism in morality or logic. Just sheer "what's good for the Jews" sociopathy.

    The Jewish demand is not "let my people go!" it is "you must let me in! you can not say 'no'". It is the ideology of the rapist.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    had it replaced by this “Civil Rights” constitution

    It should just be called Special Tribal Rights.

    If it were truly about civil rights, then AIPAC and BDS would get the same protections. But guess which is promoted and which is prohibited?

    You must attack the PREMISE of your enemy. Its core.

    Take the game of Jenga. If you remove pieces from the top, it doesn’t threaten the whole structure.
    But remove one piece at the bottom and the whole thing may fall.

    Indeed, removing ten pieces from the top is less threatening than removing just one piece from the bottom.

    Jewish Power attacks the very foundation of whiteness.
    Whites may criticize some outer manifestations of Jewish Power but totally praises the core of Jewishness as something even greater than whiteness and Christianity.

    This is why Jews and blacks(and homos) get away with so much. Jussie Smollett and Bubba and Floyd riots. While white conservatives may point to specific bad black behavior, they are agreed with the core conviction that Negroes be noble and suffered nothing but horrors prior to the 60s.
    It’s like criticizing the outward failures of communism while praising its core tenets and agendas.

    In contrast, blacks now attack the very foundation of white everything.

  237. @Just to set things straight
    @Anonymous

    Ashkenazi Jews are so not white that the Nazis didn't need to have them wear some marker, e.g. the star of David, to distinguish them from the general population and they sure didn't need to dig up family records to make sure every Jew was accounted for. They look so not white that it would be impossible for a Jew to pose as a German soldier in the Berliner Tageblatt. Literally impossible.

    Replies: @VinnyVette

    They’re white, Caucasian. Sources for your claim about the Nazi’s?

  238. Read Miles Mathis’ research.

    They are all related back to the Phoenician Navy, and to each other. Born into lives of power, wealth, and material success.

    They can’t buy or hoard happiness, they try to make sure no one can be happy.

  239. @SFG
    @Mr. Anon

    While that might be true for any other Republican (remember the Adelson primary?), I find it very hard to believe Trump is interested in anyone other than Trump.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    While that might be true for any other Republican (remember the Adelson primary?), I find it very hard to believe Trump is interested in anyone other than Trump.

    That’s true, but he still knows the value of taking care of your customers (or, rather, patrons). Adelson has donated a lot of money to Trump’s campaign (going back to 2016). Trump returned the favor by hiring John “I am the Walrus” Bolton as National Security Advisor.

  240. @Negrolphin Pool
    @Steve Sailer

    True genius entrepreneurs are heavily represented in the top 20 among the Jews there. I would say Larry Page, Larry Ellison, James Simons and Mark Zuckerberg clearly fit that description whereas Adelson and Dell do not. Does Ballmer?

    And does that pattern hold true as you descend down the list? Dipping below 20th place, adjusted for dynastic entries, you start running into a lot of guys like Carl "if you ain't born with it, borrow it" Icahn, Soros, Ron Perelman and Donald Bren. I don't want to discount their intelligence or entrepreneurial drive, but they all made their fortunes by following pedestrian means if to a superlative degree.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    I think Page and Brin were truly technical and entrepreneurial geniuses. Ellison and Gates were very competent technically and geniuses entrepreneurially. Not sure how to categorize Ballmer.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Hibernian

    I think they are all, now worried, that they are, clearly, eugenicists. Being a proponent of destroying "useless eaters," a la' Yuval, who they so admire and force their minions in their co's to read his book, will not make you a cool white, not so young, bro with BLM fok white or black. White SV moguls simply can not buy themselves exoneration. They must start worrying about their kids. Apocalypse is around the corner, and unless you own your own nuclear power plant, you are going down with the rest of us.

    Camels getting caught in lots of needles today!

  241. @HammerJack
    @anonymous coward


    the 1960’s; it was the short sweet spot of history when everybody had TV but nobody had immunity to its stupefying mind control.
     
    As opposed to now, when at least three percent of the public has immunity. Even covid is less virulent than television.

    Replies: @DextersLabRat

    No one watches TV anymore. The mind control outlet has moved to smartphones, from the news feed to social media to YouTube.

  242. @Thomm
    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks. Then again, the half-Jews should have only half-weight, and many further down the list are half-Jews. If weighted in this manner down the entire table, the weighted Jewish proportion probably falls from 33.25% to 27-28%.

    At any rate, most of the younger 'Jews' on the list are half-Jews, and most of the younger Jews and half-Jews are married to non-Jews, so the bigger theme is ongoing Jewish dilution, more than anything.

    This is a good time to point out that many of the anti-Jewish memes in the comments on this website have many logical flaws :

    1) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything? The entire premise of the 'Jews are bad' wing of White Nationalism fails.
    2) If Israel is able to manipulate the US government this totally, why can’t someone like China, with deeper pockets, do the same? Conversely, why can’t Israel manipulate Russia or the EU?
    3) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim of being oppressed by them is even weaker.


    Sincerely,
    -Mordecai 'Ira' Rabinowitz

    Replies: @Cido, @Emblematic, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Thomas, @Negrolphin Pool, @Franz, @Bill Jones, @Ian Smith, @Amerimutt Golems, @Lockean Proviso, @ben tillman, @stillCARealist, @Anon, @Anon, @jbwilson24

    “If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything?”

    Evidently someone hasn’t studied network science. Preferential attachment.

    Close knit, tribal, xenophobic people with long standing control of banking, finance, international shipping and international communications. They keep out competitors from those core areas. Buying monopolies from governments, as in the customs and postal monopolies in Bohemia, serving as a trusted elite to the aristocracy, etc.

    Add to that relatively high IQ, emphasis on success, and (up until the alleged holocaust) less deaths in warfare, and you have a compelling explanation.

    The fact that you think it is all about IQ is a demonstration that you really don’t understand how business works.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @jbwilson24


    Close knit, tribal, xenophobic people with long standing control of banking, finance, international shipping and international communications.
     
    Isn't shipping Greek?
  243. @Jack D
    @Lagertha

    Respectfully, an IQ of 203 is impossible. The frequency distribution of IQ 203 (over 6 SDs from the mean) is 1 in 11 billion and there are only 8 billion people on earth. The scoring on the most common IQ test (Weschler) tops out at 160. I don't know what kind of test they gave you but it wasn't a real IQ test.

    Replies: @Anonymouse, @The Alarmist, @Lagertha

    erhmmm! cough. Forgot to add that my brother’s score was for visuospatial IQ. Mine was more mainstream/regular IQ. They tested us in 1970 – it was a weird long day…because we were kids. We were tested often.

    We actually, thought it was for understanding how we learned English in 4 months ( we spoke 2 languages, prior).

  244. @The Alarmist
    @Jack D

    Give it up dude, you’re arguing with a crazy person.

    https://youtu.be/RjluRCKL8R4

    Replies: @Lagertha

    I’ve been called worse. But, as far as world events, I have never been wrong! hahhaaa

  245. @Hibernian
    @Negrolphin Pool

    I think Page and Brin were truly technical and entrepreneurial geniuses. Ellison and Gates were very competent technically and geniuses entrepreneurially. Not sure how to categorize Ballmer.

    Replies: @Lagertha

    I think they are all, now worried, that they are, clearly, eugenicists. Being a proponent of destroying “useless eaters,” a la’ Yuval, who they so admire and force their minions in their co’s to read his book, will not make you a cool white, not so young, bro with BLM fok white or black. White SV moguls simply can not buy themselves exoneration. They must start worrying about their kids. Apocalypse is around the corner, and unless you own your own nuclear power plant, you are going down with the rest of us.

    Camels getting caught in lots of needles today!

  246. @Anonymous
    @Lot


    All of the top 50 I know to be open Trump supporters are Jewish: Schwarzman, Adelson, Koum, Ichan.

     

    Interesting. Even expanding to the top 100 the notable Trump supporters are Jewish (Bob Kraft, Bernie Marcus).

    Then expanding to the top 200 billionaires you have Trump-supporting billionaire Russ Weiner (son of Michael Savage):


    https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/5e68ebb8e1e61700080e79cd/960x0.jpg

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinstoller/2020/03/11/rockstar-energy-drink-founder-cashing-out-for-nearly-4-billion-says-the-american-dream-is-alive-and-well/

     

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Redneck farmer, @LondonBob

    They support Trump because of Israel, and to ensure he doesn’t stray from the line too much on immigration and cultural issues, same reasons Kushner inserted himself so prominently in Trump’s administration.

  247. @jbwilson24
    @Thomm

    "If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to allegedly control everything?"

    Evidently someone hasn't studied network science. Preferential attachment.

    Close knit, tribal, xenophobic people with long standing control of banking, finance, international shipping and international communications. They keep out competitors from those core areas. Buying monopolies from governments, as in the customs and postal monopolies in Bohemia, serving as a trusted elite to the aristocracy, etc.

    Add to that relatively high IQ, emphasis on success, and (up until the alleged holocaust) less deaths in warfare, and you have a compelling explanation.

    The fact that you think it is all about IQ is a demonstration that you really don't understand how business works.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Close knit, tribal, xenophobic people with long standing control of banking, finance, international shipping and international communications.

    Isn’t shipping Greek?

  248. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad


    Heck, the Nazis justly deserved execution simply for what they wrought–
    ....
    — giving the Jews the Holocaust cudgel to beat whites
     
    Killing 6 million Jews (as well as tens of millions of others) - no problem, not even worth mentioning.

    Giving giving the Jews the Holocaust cudgel to beat whites with - now THAT's a problem.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton, @AnotherDad

    Heck, the Nazis justly deserved execution simply for what they wrought–
    ….
    — giving the Jews the Holocaust cudgel to beat whites

    Killing 6 million Jews (as well as tens of millions of others) – no problem, not even worth mentioning.

    Giving giving the Jews the Holocaust cudgel to beat whites with – now THAT’s a problem.

    Jack, i’m sorry my comment was not written with the precision and hard armoring to survive your tedious lawyering. (Ability to ignore context … you could be a journalist!)

    I thought i pretty much covered my opinion of the Nazis program and stringing them up for it right up front. And lo and behold look what’s there:

    Huh?

    Our war against the Filipinos getting their independence was “shameful”.

    Nuremburg trials? Most shameful? You’ve got to be kidding. Yeah they legally they were a joke, but not the least bit “shameful”.

    The Nazis’ imperialism dragged Europe into another incredibly bloody war–against the will of the German people, if that has something to do with your standard–causing millions of deaths and immense suffering. Stringing up a few of the Nazis was responsible was a morally required–if tepid–response.

    Seems reasonably clear to me. I’m “pro” on executing Nazis for rampaging through Europe killing people.

    What i was talking about in the later phrase–after a discursive ramble through the question of discouraging leaders from waging war too casually–was that beyond what they did, my take is the Nazis deserve hanging just for the mess they left behind. Words like “simply” and “wrought” and starting with the Soviet occupation and discussing only the post-War situation are sort of hints for the non-IQ challenged. I fully admit it could have been worded more clearly, but it’s hardly opaque in context.

    Let me try again with Jewish lawyer proofing:

    Heck,

    beyond all their crimes of imperialistic war “causing millions of deaths and immense suffering–yes, including “the Holocaust”–which i just mentioned in few paragraphs above–…

    the Nazis also justly deserved execution simply for what they wrought (i.e. what was left behind after their waging imperialistic war and mass murder)–
    — handing Stalin the Soviets Eastern Europe
    — giving the Jews the Holocaust cudgel to beat whites
    — given the Jews a handy slur–“Nazi!”–to smear nationalist patriots. Since they invaded twenty something nations, they should have called themselves the German Imperialist Party (DIPs) and left us nationalists out of it.

    Interesting to reflect: Guys like me–generic white gentile, no particular natural animus against any other group–notice and call out ponderance of Jews in the sustained anti-republican, anti-national, anti-traditional, anti-Christian, anti-white assault on my nation and the West. Attacks that the Jews themselves often relate to their Jewishness and “Jewish values”. I point out that Jews have driven the minoritarian ideology and that it is logically a middle-man minority ideology–in the self-interest of Jews. (We minorities are entitled to go anywhere and everywhere, majorities trying to stop us, to organize, to have borders, to have their own stuff, to pursue their own self-interest–illegitimate!, anti-Semitic!)

    These obsevations about Jews pushing the minoritarian ideology are reasonable–innumerable examples, over decades and continuing–and at least arguable and are about real issues, which are destroying my kids’, the nation’s, the West’s future, you and others are quick to label as phony, unfair, biased, “anti-Semitic!”.

    Yet, i let all of three paragraphs lapse between calling for the execution of Nazis for their war crimes and calling for the bonus execution of the Nazis simply for the post-war result of their recklessness … you’re ready with a bad-faith denunciation. (You’ve got the IQ to figure out what i was saying.)

    Apparently i didn’t have the requisite hosannas to the holocaust. And yes, i do care most about the result and specifically *”the future”*. The people who died in the war are … dead. Like the millions upon millions who’ve died–killed, raped, starved, taken by disease–in conflict down through the eons. I’m so hideously gentile that for me every waking moment isn’t about denouncing the Amalekites. I care more about the future of my nation and civilization for my kids to inherit.

    Reflect on your bad faith here and maybe you’ll get a little flash of insight into why the Jews end up being hated by the host populations they are middle manning.

  249. @Roderick Spode
    @Ron Mexico

    "Bruce Springsteen isn't Jewish
    But my mother thinks he is."

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    “Bruce Springsteen isn’t Jewish
    But my mother thinks he is.”

    He’s as Italian as Jay Leno and Madonna.

    Or, if you prefer ladies with musical rather than business talent, Connie Stevens, Laura Nyro and Melanie.

  250. @Buffalo Joe
    Ten percent of the total wealth of the billionaires on the list should cover Reparations for our black brethern nicely. Now. who do we get to start stirring the pot?

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Lagertha

    yup, all these assholes who are anti-Trump, who are Silicon Valley billionaires and millionaires need to pay-up! BLM should surround their homes and ransom their children. This was so obvious….these same scoundrels brought this upon themselves. These people are why we have unequal pay and a caste system in this country – SV moguls and Wall St. are the rats that need to be thrown off the ship. Once they vote for Biden, or rig the system for him, they are so over! hahhahaaaaa. It won’t be guilliotenes, but their heads and their kids’ heads are gonna be cut off. – Revolutions and Riots have consequences.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Lagertha

    this is what I predict. You can't be a virtual signaler and not be impaled with your sign. No one cares about your shit - this is Darwinism. I believe in Darwinism. I accept the Corona Virus, and, whatever...

  251. @AnotherDad
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan


    This was one of the most shameful episodes in all of history. Against the will of the American people, we fought World War Two to destroy other nations and fulfill Jewish revenge fantasies against their old enemies.
     
    Huh?

    Our war against the Filipinos getting their independence was "shameful".

    Nuremburg trials? Most shameful? You've got to be kidding. Yeah they legally they were a joke, but not the least bit "shameful".

    The Nazis' imperialism dragged Europe into another incredibly bloody war--against the will of the German people, if that has something to do with your standard--causing millions of deaths and immense suffering. Stringing up a few of the Nazis was responsible was a morally required--if tepid--response.

    Actually it would be goodness if every war ended up with the losing side's leaders strung up. That would be an incentive ... not to go rushing off to war. Europe had bloody history in part because rulers could at a whim go to their Jewish bankers for more money to fight. And win or lose--they are still alive, the Jewish bankers (usually) still solvent, but a bunch of young men killed and mutilated, a bunch of women raped, and all the people under the boot of more taxation to pay more debt. "You lose you die" ... we'd have had less war.

    It wouldn't be a terrible idea for America to have a rule that if the President wants to go to war he submits himself to execution. War should be a "this more important than my life" deal. Cause that's what it will be for some of the young men fighting it.


    Heck, the Nazis justly deserved execution simply for what they wrought--
    -- handing Stalin the Soviets Eastern Europe
    -- giving the Jews the Holocaust cudgel to beat whites
    -- given the Jews a handy slur--"Nazi!"--to smear nationalist patriots. Since they invaded twenty something nations, they should have called themselves the German Imperialist Party (DIPs) and left us nationalists out of it.

    Yeah, the War had lots of unpunished evil doers--e.g. Stalin. The roots of the 20th Century's conflicts were in--particularly British and French--imperialism and the US should never have intervened in The Great War without resolving imperialism as "the past" to be parted with and nationalism as the right of all peoples. But rounding up a bunch of this Nazi scum and hanging 'em. Count me unashamed.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Jack D, @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    Nuremburg trials? Most shameful? You’ve got to be kidding. Yeah they legally they were a joke, but not the least bit “shameful”.

    On what planet does this make any sense?:

    If the Germans were so guilty, then why did the trials have to be a sham? If the Germans were so guilty, why were the trials “legally … a joke”?
    I swear, do some of you people even think before posting?

    If something is a “joke” legally, then it’s a joke morally. That’s the ancient position of the Anglo-American common law tradition.

    And, speaking of morals, why did the Allies need to torture the defendants to get false confessions? Is that something that would typically need to happen in a case where the defendant was obviously evil and obviously guilty?

  252. Anonymous[303] • Disclaimer says:

    Yet, the two concepts — white privilege and Jewish privilege — would seem to be rather analogous: For example, if you are enraged about white privilege it would be logical to also be concerned about Jewish privilege. In contrast, if you find white privilege to be overblown, then Jewish privilege shouldn’t bother you much either.

    Only if one sees Jewishness as part of whiteness.

    Yet, Jewish Power isn’t an extension of white power but its chief rival. Jews may count as white in the census but their political identity is anti-white. It’s like Jews and Christians can be said to belong to the Judeo-Christian Community, but whereas Christians would like to think of Jews as part of the family, Jews see themselves as a people apart and even antithetical to Christianity.

    So, just as it’d be silly to regard Jewish Power as a part or extension(or the fullest expression) of Judeo-Christian community, it makes no sense to regard Jewishness as part of whiteness because Jews feel a need to control the white community that be part of it.

    Indeed, more than any other people, Jews promoted the notion of White Privilege to deflect attention from their own power. Also, it’s a mind-game to guilt-bait whites into feeling bad about their wealth and position. That way, whites feel they must atone, and Jews set the terms of this atonement: Serve Zion and cuck to homos and blacks.

    As for non-whites, many fear Jewish Power. They are savvy enough to know who has the real power. If they can’t get the goodies by attacking Jews, they attack whites as the next best thing, especially as it has the blessing of Jewish Power.
    Indeed, this is the wink-wink bargain between Jews and Diversity. Jews encourage Diversity blame/attack whites and take from whites. Jews egg them on. This way, no matter how rich and powerful Jews are, they get to pose along with Diversity as warriors united against ‘white supremacism’. Diversity gets their goodies from whites AS LONG AS they don’t attack Jews.
    Meanwhile, whites get it in the neck from Diversity and from Jews.

    Blacks and Hindus and others know…
    Many of them know Jews got immense power. Many of them don’t like Jews. But they also know that Jews have been most instrumental in subverting and undermining white power. Therefore, by working with Jews, they at least get to take from whites, and why not since there is still so much to take from whites in terms of money, jobs, land, women, etc?

  253. @AnotherDad
    @Thomm


    It seems that Jews outperform gentile whites by the same margin that whites outperform blacks.
     
    Thomm, i realize you're doing your usual butthurt trolling, but it's an interesting topic. I'll take a poke.

    Short answer: No. The gaps are not the same.

    Measures of income and wealth in America for any group are all taking place in the context of the peace, prosperity and opportunity created and maintained--at least until recently--by white Americans.

    Gaps between racial and ethnic groups involve both questions of quantity and quality.

    If you had an America populated solely by Jews (Ashkenazim) versus one populated solely by white gentiles, the Jewish nation would outperform the white one on measures of innovation--e.g. patents, Nobel Prizes, etc.--by something like 10-1. It would be more economically prosperous. Probably something like Switzerland vs. Portugal.

    But ... the white gentile America would not suck. In fact, it would be pretty darn awesome. Jews are smarter, but they have the middle-man personality package. They have not figured out any new/better social organization. In fact their core organization--tribalism and a tribal ("We're God's chosen people")--is decidedly more primitive compared to what whites--high affective empathy, high trust at scale--and arguably others have developed.

    (If you had an America full of white gentiles with a normal IQ distribution matching the Jewish mean--maybe 112ish--and SD, most people would find that white nation a more pleasant place. Whites throw a great nation.)

    In contrast, the all black America ... would suck. It would be Africa. The difference in quantity of talent and the difference in personality would result in fundamental difference in quality. It would simply be something quite different ... and fundamentally inferior from the perspective of civilization.

    ~

    Simplest summary:

    Jews are smarter, but not better people than whites.

    Whites are smarter and better people than blacks.

    Replies: @TelfoedJohn, @Corvinus, @Ian M.

    Whites are smarter and better people than blacks.

    Is the second part true? Yes, blacks’ dysfunction manifests itself in more obvious ways, especially to those accustomed to seeing things through a materialist lens: bastardy, murder, etc. But whites invented liberalism and are its most vocal proponents, an ideology that has destroyed millions of souls.

    And I’m not talking about mass murder.

  254. @Lagertha
    @Buffalo Joe

    yup, all these assholes who are anti-Trump, who are Silicon Valley billionaires and millionaires need to pay-up! BLM should surround their homes and ransom their children. This was so obvious....these same scoundrels brought this upon themselves. These people are why we have unequal pay and a caste system in this country - SV moguls and Wall St. are the rats that need to be thrown off the ship. Once they vote for Biden, or rig the system for him, they are so over! hahhahaaaaa. It won't be guilliotenes, but their heads and their kids' heads are gonna be cut off. - Revolutions and Riots have consequences.

    Replies: @Lagertha

    this is what I predict. You can’t be a virtual signaler and not be impaled with your sign. No one cares about your shit – this is Darwinism. I believe in Darwinism. I accept the Corona Virus, and, whatever…

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