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From the Minneapolis Star-Tribune:

Minneapolis neighborhoods face food desert after looting closes multiple stores
By John Ewoldt Star Tribune JUNE 2, 2020 — 5:05AM

DAVID JOLES/STAR TRIBUNE

With Cub, Target, two Aldi stores and many small markets damaged by rioting over the past week, Longfellow and about eight other neighborhoods have nearly become a food desert.

“I consider the loss of these businesses devastating,” said Melanie Majors, executive director of the Longfellow Community Council. “Besides just the food, there’s a lack of retail for diapers, formula, household goods, even clothing.”

Many residents of the area shop lower-priced stores such as Aldi or dollar stores. Two of those dollar stores — including Family Dollar on Lake Street — were destroyed in last week’s looting and violence that arose after George Floyd was killed in Minneapolis police custody.

Reminds me of the anti-Chinese riots on Guadalcanal in 2006. After a night of looting, the locals showed up the next afternoon at their favorite stores, which they had just trashed and burned down, to buy their evening dinner. They were much befuddled by the fact that the stores no longer existed.

 
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  1. Altai [AKA "Altai_2"] says:

    Here is another causality.

    https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/holy-land-owner-fires-own-daughter-over-racist-social-media-posts

    Holy Land has had its lease terminated at its Midtown Global Market location following a series of racist social media posts from the restaurant owner’s daughter.

    “Management of Midtown Global Market is exercising its rights as as landlord to immediately close Holy Land Grocery, Butcher Shop & Deli and terminate their lease,” Midtown Global Market announced in a social media post.

    Sins of the daughter, very progressive! They weren’t even recent.

    The owner of popular restaurant and deli Holy Land in Minneapolis has fired his daughter for a series of racist social media posts.

    Majdi Wadi, CEO of the Mediterranean-Middle Eastern establishment in Northeast, issued a statement that it had come to his attention that a staffer at Holy Land “posted racial slurs onto social media prior to beginning employment with us,” saying he wasn’t aware of these posts.

    “As the current CEO of Holy Land, I regret to inform my valued customers that the specific team member is my own daughter,” he said.

    “Although she was a teenager when she made this mistake, my daughters employment with the company has been terminated effective immediately.”

    Wadi’s daughter, Lianne, has posted her own apology on Instagram, saying she deleted the old posts right away after they were brought to her attention, saying she was a teenager at the time and “wasn’t educated on how words I chose would affect and offend others.”

    However, as CityPages points out, people on social media have revealed a string of offensive comments that Wadi has made over the years on Twitter, including several uses of the n-word – including reference to former President Obama – and one tweet in which she said “Hitler all the way.”

    Her father said that as a business formed by immigrants, “we do not tolerate this type of behavior because it is completely against our beliefs and faith.”

    Wadi is from Kuwait. Another example of immigrants growing to hate African Americans with an intensity that no white person in the 21st century is capable of. And black people know this but can’t say nothing because ‘immigrants uber alles’.

  2. anon215 says:

    Like I said in the other thread – we should discontinue direct subsidies (food stamp/SNAP cards) and let these people wait in line at government-run food distribution centers.

    The rest of us can breeze through checkout lines at the big box stores, as we’ll no longer have these people holding up the line with their antics.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @Hypnotoad666
  3. Altai [AKA "Altai_2"] says:

    Also Keith Ellison’s son is leading the charge to dismantle the MPD. Here is an article about it. Apparently something like this has happened at least once before, in Camden but ultimately it just meant they gave contracts to county police. Will that be what ends up happening here? Be ironic since a lead complaint against the MPD is that most don’t live in the technical city limits of Minneapolis.

    https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/councilor-were-going-to-dismantle-the-minneapolis-police-department

    This combined with Keith Ellison loading the charges against Chauvin in a way that increases the likelihood of acquittal (As well as charging the other 3 to similar effect) thus ensuring a mega eruption of rioting when he gets off, makes me bearish on Minneapolis house prices.

    • Agree: The Alarmist
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Kyle
    , @Ed
  4. J Adelman says:

    Now the only question is.

    Will November 2020 be a landslide victory for Biden or a close one?

    Poor Trump, Coronation and them Civil unrest screwed everything for him.

  5. OT but wondering if the augmentation of the murder charge against Chauvin and the heavy charges against the three other officers (I read today that they’re facing up to 40 years in prison) could possibly be designed to get them completely exonerated. (I’m not usually conspiratorial, so talk me out of this.) Whatever Chauvin did, it is hard to construe as murder in the usual sense, that is, a deliberate killing. From what I’ve seen, I think he got mad and when he saw he was being filmed just got into a cussedly stubborn determination to not let himself be influenced. BUT how on earth can what the other officers did merit 40 years in prison? Some degree of culpability, perhaps, but this is crazy.

    • Replies: @Redman
    , @Bucky
  6. You may blame this problem on the riots, Steve, but as a conservative, you just want to DENY the real problem. The ever increasing food desertification is due to Global Racial Climate Change.

    .

    (That Guadalcanal story is hilarious.)

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  7. Ed says:
    @Altai

    The powers that be never acknowledge that many people, especially immigrants, experience their views on African-Americans based on interactions with them.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  8. A few weeks ago, I posted something here on iSteve which was–arguably–a tad racist. Mea maxima culpa!

    The point of my little story is that the jurisdiction where I live still managed to accept and deposit my real-estate tax check I sent last week.

    The bill included a note with two sentences. The first one says “All County Offices are closed to the public until further notice, in accordance with the Governor’s stay-at-home orders”

    The second one says “For the County to continue providing essential goods and services, the due date for tax payments remains unchanged.”

    But then I’ve never known a government representative to be troubled by cognitive dissonance.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @Moses
  9. When January rolls around and the Swamp is back in full control nothing will have changed. The blacks will have returned to the ghetto. The Democratic Party friendly NGOs will get a lot of fiat money meant to develop communities of color and that cash is laundered into the campaigns and pockets of friendly politicians as contributions. Congress will bemoan the fact that corporations will not rebuild their burned out groceries and that the mom and pop shops went under not because they were ransacked but evil Wal-Mart. Once the populists are overcome things will be as they were. It has happened before and will happen again.

    • Agree: Alden
  10. benjaminl says:

    Who but Steve Sailer ever heard of, much less remembers in a timely fashion, the anti-Chinese riots on Guadalcanal in 2006? Steve, do you have a photographic memory? This blog is a national treasure.

  11. @Altai

    This is why we need laws that protect political speech!

    You can’t fire someone for their religious beliefs, no matter how nutty. But step out of line in political thought and you are fired. It’s shocking we allow this when you reflect on it. Dumb-dumb conservatives should be able to sell this as a civil right.

    • Agree: Cato, Yngvar, HammerJack
    • Replies: @Yngvar
    , @Mr McKenna
  12. More about Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot
    “If there’s an issue, call 911” – this is not a headline from Babylon Bee or The Onion
    That’s what she said.

    Mayor Lori Lightfoot denounces vigilantism in Chicago after white men patrol Bridgeport streets with bats
    https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-chicago-bridgeport-lightfoot-opposes-vigilantism-20200604-jilfdhgmqjellfblozywe5iesa-story.html

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Buffalo Joe
  13. Like the parracidal youth that bemoans his new status as an orphan.

  14. Who’d have thunk it? I can hear them now: “Rebuild your stores TODAY or you are a racist! We are starving too death! My BMI has dropped below 60.”

    • LOL: FLgeezer
  15. So the guy denounces his own daughter, but he still loses his lease?!

    Here’s a guy who had to denounce his son (for doing the “George Floyd Challenge” — scroll down to “Shade Tree Construction”). We’re on our way to becoming East Germany, where half the population was Stasi informers.

  16. Dr. X says:

    We’re on our way to becoming East Germany, where half the population was Stasi informers.

    We’re already there…

  17. Anon[139] • Disclaimer says:

    Hahaha.

    And did you hear that many progressive municipalities are banning dollar stores because they sell a limited selection of non nutritious food?

    • Replies: @G. Poulin
  18. KenH says:

    Don’t be surprised in Donnie Trump sends in special deliveries of food trucks then brags on Twitter about how much he does for the black community.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  19. @Altai

    Well, Lianne Was cool until she bent the knee.

    Looks pretty cute too.

  20. backup says:

    Minneapolis City Council are apparently planning to dismantle the police department.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/minneapolis-city-council-vows-to-dismantle-police-department

    Let them do it. Let’s see what happens.

    • Replies: @Walsh2
  21. Lowe says:
    @International Jew

    Good. Maybe next time he won’t cave like a pathetic animal, knowing it won’t make any difference. If anything it just lets them know you are weak.

    What he should have done when he found out about his daughter’s Tweets is told her to delete them, and then lawyered up immediately at even the hint his lease could be ended.

  22. @Altai

    “Wadi is from Kuwait”

    Timeline of abolition of slavery and serfdom

    1949 Kuwait Slavery abolished [141]

    • Replies: @Alden
  23. @International Jew

    George Floyd Challenge

    I hope no one dies trying that.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  24. I’ve said it before, but the presence or absence of whites is a pox on black communities.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  25. I was wondering if NYC’s crummy supermarkets and outrageously pricy specialty food stores were being spared amid the stampede for designer clothes and electronics. If I were a looter I’d be heading straight for the ribeyes, lamb chops and sushi, there’s been nothing good on TV anyway since about 1975

    I do feel a little silly looking to buy a new pair of sneaks online instead of just going out and liberating them to express my outrage

    • LOL: FLgeezer
  26. @Altai

    I used to be a waiter at a restaurant that had SOME black customers. Perhaps 15%? Working in a customer facing role with blacks is eye opening. When I would hear a story of a customer having a complete shitfit i would imagine that they were black. Usually they were. I am sure all of these middle eastern and korean deli owners have uh,,,,interesting opinions on the vibrant and diverse customers.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    , @anon
  27. theMann says:

    They chose the behavior, they own the consequences of the behavior.

    If the average 70 IQ individual can’t reason that far ahead, still no one else’s problem. Oh wait, except for the people in those communities that will suffer greatly without a normal business environment around them. But then they, at the very least, tolerated the rioters.

    If, at night number one, we had hanged the first Rioters, the problems that could have been avoided. Some People of Color die either way, but far fewer and deserving it for trying to destroy society. Instead, they actually succeed in destroying their communities, but hey, showed the awful White Waaaaacists!

  28. bomag says:

    They were much befuddled by the fact that the stores no longer existed.

    A form of complacency; they believe The Man will always be around to supply the status quo; they riot to get even more stuff above what they are getting now.

  29. PSR says:

    Let them eat social justice and see how filling that really is.

  30. @Altai

    And here i thought the nuns were just bluffing with “this is going on your permanent record.”

    • LOL: Sean
  31. @benjaminl

    He probably owns affected real estate. He’s all about real estate.

    • Replies: @Simon Tugmutton
  32. anon[101] • Disclaimer says:

    “If we rob, loot and burn out the Dollar Store on Saturday night, it won’t be there for us to go buy stuff on Friday? For real? Who knew? Who saw this coming? It is totally mysterious!”

    That whole “cause and effect” concept is so advanced. It must be like having a superpower.

  33. Defund the police polls at 16%, 33% among negroes:

    https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2020/06/05/poll-only-16-americans-want-to-defund-the-police-65-oppose/

    Hopefully the Left keeps running with it!

  34. There’s a millennial Revolutionary fix to this concern: Turn the grocer industry over to government ownership and add the right to close access to inexpensive government supermarkets to a comprehensive list of new civil rights.

  35. It is the cargo cult.

    Stuff just appears on the island.

    Rumor is that virtue signaling will create more of it. 😉

    • Agree: Haole
  36. Anon[367] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: I’m glad to see that for big education it’s like 14-Apr 1912 at around midnight. Iceberg COVID caused catastrophic damage and now we see the hull busting at its rivets.

    Give black students break on grades for protests, petition asks University of Washington

    BY BROOKE WOLFORD
    JUNE 03, 2020

    As protests sparked by George Floyd’s death continue, students at the University of Washington are calling on professors to grade black students’ finals with more leniency in light of the coronavirus pandemic and the ongoing civil unrest within the country, The Daily of the University of Washington reported…

    https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/coronavirus/article243253766.html#storylink=cpy

    NYU business professor:

  37. Surprise job-creation rebound reported today, just one more reason the left must execute a hard pivot from COVID to Racissism

    The hand-wringing over “food deserts” meanwhile is the ultimate case of kill-your-parents-and-request-leniency-because-you’re-an-orphan.

  38. I think the Blacks hit the Walgreen’s near me as it is boarded up. Internet states that it is to reopen June 12. That awful Preckwinkle, Cook County, IL Board President, was talking this week about Walgreen’s being hit and people were unable to fill prescriptions.

    I wonder if street gangs mapped out a plan to attack the CVS and Walgreen’s to hit the pharmacies in a systematic fashion after observing the shear uselessness of CPD under the leadership of Da Mayor Lightfoot and CPD Chief Brown. Certainly shows the future of Black political leadership effectiveness.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  39. You can’t completely “riot proof” a store. If folks really want to get in and are willing to bring the equipment to do it while you do nothing in defense, they’ll eventually get it.

    But seriously how difficult is it to build your big box so it is effectively “looter proof”. Essentially heavy steel doors with the edges recessed behind your cement block walls. (Pretty much what you’d want for anyplace subject to hurricanes or tornadoes anyway.) Given the cost of construction and of land and lawyering to get the thing built, this is trivial stuff.

    Hey, the looters are coming … “press the button, Max”.

  40. Peter Turchin saw it coming – in 2012

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8gvbg5/2012-is-bullshit-2020-is-when-well-really-be-in-trouble-fob-0003000-v19n10?utm_campaign=sharebutton  

    VICE in 2012:

    “We spoke to Peter to find out what’s supposedly going to make the US descend into a horrifying, dystopian pit of violence in eight years’ time.”

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Jon
  41. jimla says:

    This is Honiara Chinatown rebuilt by the Chinese themselves.

  42. @Altai

    Wadi is from Kuwait. Another example of immigrants growing to hate African Americans with an intensity that no white person in the 21st century is capable of. And black people know this but can’t say nothing because ‘immigrants uber alles’.

    What middle class blacks will say–at least in public–has probably morphed around a bit to get in line with the “diversity uber alles” minoritarian mandate.

    But at least back in the 00s middle class American blacks–at least with a drink or two on board–were not expressing love for immigrants. Heck, they weren’t exactly fond of African immigrants, who often had “attitudes” about American blacks.

    I think if you go to the hood–i haven’t really worked around lower/working class blacks for 35 years, but i doubt it’s wildly different–you’ll find less filtered opinions and more “free expression”. Blacks don’t love immigrants, but they are firmly on the Jewish minoritarian plantation politically. The get some gibs to stay in minoritarian coalition. So what they think on the subject basically doesn’t matter.

    • Replies: @jbwilson24
  43. One of the unintended consequences of being black is that almost all of your family and neighbors are black. So, how much shit do you need in a pot of stew before it is garbage…just a touch.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  44. Anon[189] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dieter Kief

    Man, this guys is prescient. His reasoning for the prediction was also spot on.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  45. @AnotherDad

    AD, when my wife and I used to volunteer in the inner city at a soup kitchen we noticed that every business had glass blocks where their small windows used to be and all store front and door ways either had roll up security doors or security gates. Sad way to live and that’s because of their neighbors. No one from the suburbs robbing or breaking into those stores.

  46. @benjaminl

    Reminds me of the anti-Chinese riots on Guadalcanal in 2006. After a night of looting, the locals showed up the next afternoon at their favorite stores, which they had just trashed and burned down, to buy their evening dinner. They were much befuddled by the fact that the stores no longer existed.

    No one has ever accused the melanesians of being geniuses.

    But i’m totally on board with their irritation at and desire to pitch out a middle man minority like the overseas Chinese.

    The problem, of course, is that you have to be ready to do the job yourself.

    This is why the best approach is *never let the middle man minority in*. Build it yourself. And in the process you build the skills and capability. (And longer term your population undergoes selection for the traits to do it yourself.)

    Destruction of capability by middle man parasites has affected American blacks as well. Under segregation they had a lot more capability in their community–running their own shops and businesses right up to their own doctors and lawyers at the top. Of course, their capability wasn’t at the level that whites or various middle man groups have. But it was theirs. More money was staying in their community and there were middle class roles–and role models–and an actual Negro community.

    But with less segregation this capability has declined. First with Jews moving in on them. Then with “integration” and now the immigration deluge black business has been wiped out. Koreans and Chinese, Indians and Pakis and the odd middle easterner running most all the shops and stores in black neighborhoods. Any money blacks get … exits their community and builds nice homes for foreigners far away. Why wouldn’t they want to riot? … the shit ain’t theirs!

    Diversity is our strength!

  47. @AnotherDad

    “Wadi is from Kuwait. Another example of immigrants growing to hate African Americans with an intensity that no white person in the 21st century is capable of”

    Growing to hate? One does not need to teach an Arab how to hate blacks – they do it naturally.

    Blacks seem to forget that Arabs enslaved 80+ million Sub-saharan Africans, cutting off the testicles of the males (courtesy of Jewish physicians). Unlike the British, the Arabs didn’t make an effort to reduce child mortality in the areas of Africa that they conquered.

    Haven’t seen Arabs apologize for anti-black racism. The left refuses to admit that Arabs were colonialists, let alone racists.

    • Replies: @Smithsonian_6
    , @Herzog
  48. Art Deco says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    In the Genesee Valley just to your east, about 1/2 the black population lives in census block groups which are more than 47% black and half live in block groups less than 47% black. In the counties around Louisville, to take another example, about 45% of the blacks live in black majority block groups. You have some urban settlements where blacks are more concentrated (Milwaukee is one, I think), but in general the black population is a great deal more dispersed than it was 40 years ago.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    , @res
    , @Buffalo Joe
  49. Back when the gilet jaunes protests were kicking off in Paris, BBC stalwart Orla Guerin was apparently running around asking if people had seen any food trucks selling Russian dishes such as cutlets. In her mind this would constitute proof that the Russians had masterminded the protests because they were attempting to profit from them.

    So if people turn up in your burned-out neighbourhood selling blinis and cavier, this is not community action but the hidden hand of Putin at work. Maybe he can throw in some Crimean champagne just to rub salt in it.

    • Replies: @Lurker
  50. Art Deco says:
    @AnotherDad

    This is why the best approach is *never let the middle man minority in*. Build it yourself. And in the process you build the skills and capability. (And longer term your population undergoes selection for the traits to do it yourself.)

    Your problem (aside from general malice) is that you harbor the fallacy that the performance of distributional services is some kind of trick da Joos play on the rest of the population.

    • Disagree: Dtbb
    • Troll: Gabe Ruth
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  51. This simple fact here “food deserts” is proof positive that blacks are the most stupid, self destructive race inhabiting the planet! Whites in suburbia and rural towns aren’t going to starve, because they threw a tantrum and smashed their toys to teach mommy and daddy a lesson.
    Guess they aren’t going to be enjoying bbq’d ribs and Doritos while watching the BET channel on their newly acquired flat screen tv’s…

  52. MikeCLT says:

    I thought the video of the woman in Minneapolis crying over the destruction of her neighborhood was very sad and poignant.

    https://kstp.com/minnesota-news/minneapolis-twin-cities-community-reaction-riots/5745543/

    And no retards, this woman did not deserve this.

    • Agree: Smithsonian_6
    • Replies: @Kylie
    , @anon
  53. I highly recommend that you read the linked article to this post and then scroll down and read some other articles including…”65 businesses totally destoryed in Minneapolis” Food Desert? A total desert.

    • Replies: @res
  54. @International Jew

    George Floyd is a martyr. We need ’im,
    And only the ghetto could breed ’im.
    Sweet Liberty’s sentinel,
    On meth and on fentanyl—
    His blood waters the pot plant of Freedom!

    While on dope Dirty George was besotted,
    A knee pinched his occluded carotid.
    The knee caused his death—
    Not “Apache”* or meth;
    Nor his blood far too readily clotted.

    *Apache: Street slang for fentanyl.

    • Thanks: HammerJack
    • Replies: @Herzog
  55. Anonymous[255] • Disclaimer says:

    The Urban Prog Elites in what they DO and SAY.

    DO.

    Support Clinton’s mass incarceration of blacks.
    Support Bloomberg’s Stop and Frisk.
    Support US police being trained by Israelis who mastered crowd control with Palestinians.
    Support Section 8 and Mass Immigration to push blacks out of cities.
    Support globo-homo in June to fill streets with homos and decadent yuppies to drown out potential long hot summer.

    SAY.

    “We care so much about black lives, boo hoo.”
    “We abhor police brutality.”

    They talk like Knee-Cucks but acted like Knee-Necks.

    In effect, the urban elites cynically SAID one thing to cover what they really DID.
    But as crime rates did plummet in cities, the younger whites no longer lived in fear of blacks and came to actually believe in what was SAID(even though it was meant cynically) and began to demand ‘justice’ for holy blacks. And so, we go from cities getting safer to cities getting more violent once again. Eventually, what is SAID, even if cynically, comes to bite those who DID it.

    The Said-Did Dichotomy is leading to massive neurosis in cities.

  56. Anon[322] • Disclaimer says:

    “Y’all burnin’ down shit in our community. Take this shit to the suburbs. Burn that shit down! We need our shit! We need our weaves. I don’t wear it. But we need it.”
    — Sherelle Smith, protest organizer

  57. Starving blacks? Will these white supremacists stop at nothing?

  58. trickster says:

    A food desert ? Wherever blacks go it is the same thing. Throw a dart at a world map and if there are blacks there one will see no difference between their behaviour and what is happening in the US. These people have no concept of tomorrow. I remember in the early 80’s the homies in Harlem robbed the hood grocery store (black owned) to the point where the owner closed up. The residents then had to get on the subway and head to 161st street and beyond to buy a bag of milk and bread. When the store was sold to 2 Hispanics they enforced their will with shotguns. Further they had a friendly chat with the local black head gangster pointing to the plight of the black elderly who were:
    -Unable to travel downtown to shop
    -Who when they gave their money to their own siblings to buy food got robbed
    -When they protested got thumped

    The result was the lawless youth got a talking to. When a few decided to test the word of the big man I heard they got whipped in a tenement basement. That got the message across, this is the only language they seem to understand.

    This is the behaviour of the black man in every part of the world. They torch their area including the black businesses. Everyone moves away, the place becomes a desert in every way and then they wonder how they are going to eat. They also wonder why everyone despises them. It must be wonderful to have a low or no intelligence. It saves all the bother of thinking !

  59. @Art Deco

    in general the black population is a great deal more dispersed than it was 40 years ago.

    Even those of us who are inclined to be critical of this trend have to admit that it’s led to a truly impressive amount of peace and harmony from coast to coast. Well done!

  60. It looks like there was plenty of food remaining on the shelf after Cub Foods was ransacked. Must be the healthy stuff. And plenty of soda– excuse me, pop. Hard to carry home, I guess.

    At least it wasn’t Lund’s/Byerly’s, with their oft-carpeted aisles. I thought it interesting that Cub didn’t challenge Cup Foods on trademark grounds, but they probably wrote it off as a cute little joke. Cup is where Floyd passed his Andy.

    Betcha’d never guess that Longfellow is still nearly ⅔ white, and only a sixth black, much of that African. It ain’t the bruthas’ ‘hood.

    http://www.mncompass.org/profiles/communities/minneapolis/longfellow
    http://www.mncompass.org/profiles/communities/minneapolis/powderhorn
    http://www.mncompass.org/profiles/communities/minneapolis/phillips

    Cub and Target lie near the boundaries with Powderhorn (59%/20% white/black) and Phillips (29%/44%).

    One of the two churches that hosted my son’s Cub Scout pack is in Longfellow–seemed safe enough at the time– and we used to visit Merlin’s Rest pub (much cozier cosier than Brit’s, though lacking lawn bowls on the roof), especially for their big St George’s Day bash. Dancing in the street– morris dancing!


    That’s only eight blocks east of the 3rd Precinct house. These neighborhoods are marginal but stable. Until now…

    • Replies: @anon
  61. 128 says:

    Isn’t it tiring to write the same stuff over and over and over and over and over again like a broken record knowing it will not matter one jot in the end?

    • Replies: @anon
  62. Alfa158 says:
    @AnotherDad

    I’ll have to look more closely, but I think Costco’s are built exactly that way. I don’t know that any have been successfully looted.
    Walmart’s are starting to close anyway even before Covid and the riots. It would be instructive to know Walmart’s data on the inflation adjusted income of their customers. Decades ago Walmart had a campaign about selling US made products, until domestic manufactured goods mostly disappeared. Low cost imported goods helped their customers keep coming in but what if their average incomes were dropping as manufacturing jobs dried up and their customer demographics shifted more to low income third world immigrants? If that is the case then no matter how cheap the Chinese made goods are, people’s effective purchasing power starts to shrink and they can’t buy as much. Throw in the online shopping economy and you would expect the number of Walmart and other retail stores to shrink.
    This would be a good excuse for these retailers to cut their locations by starting with stores already burned out.

    • Replies: @anon
  63. Anon[301] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    The NYT published an op piece by Senator Ton Cotton at the height of the looting riots supporting using the military. Junior staff freaked out. Bari Weiss tweeted a short anthropological analysis of NYT internal politics. Junior staff freaked out again. Then senior staff started to cave in.

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/06/new-york-times-tom-cotton-staff-reaction.html

    It would be funny if it weren’t scary how totalitarian this younger generation is with its no platforming.

  64. Kristallwoche Kristallwoke ?
    The parallels are striking

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  65. Peterike says:

    Looted neighborhoods got no food now? Too bad, so sad for the looters.

  66. We knew this would happen, and we feel a certain schadenfreude about it.

    • Agree: Dtbb
    • Replies: @Charles
    , @Lot
  67. Anonymous[362] • Disclaimer says:

    Under Trump, there was no Blexit and most blacks stuck with Democratic party.

    Still, Trump did better with blacks in 2016 than earlier GOP candidates.

    Trump did improve the economy for blacks. Many blacks did support, even if silently, Trump’s immigration policies.

    So, Trump was poised to do even better with blacks in 2020.

    Dems just couldn’t allow this. Blacks are black gold to them. Black votes, every one of them, are crucial to them. Also, blacks are symbolically important to the Dems.

    Dems saved big cities by quelling black crime and by pushing mass immigration and globo-homo. So, Dems know blacks are problematic but must be controlled. But the Dem Narrative is still ‘blacks are holy and MLK is god’. So, they feel most threatened when a GOP figure makes ANY inroad into the black base.

    With Covid, Dems destroyed black employment. And with these riots, Dems are setting blacks against Trump and GOP.

    Mission Accomplished.

    The Dem plantation can’t allow blacks to move to Trump plantation.

    Even though in actual violence, this is black uprising against blue Democratic cities, the narrative is ‘black slave revolt against massuh Trump’.

    • Agree: Dtbb, Haole
  68. Charles says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Homer Simspon: “What’s the opposite of ‘schadenfreude’?”
    Lisa: ” ‘Sour grapes’.”
    Homer: “Boy those Germans have a word for everything!”

  69. anon[282] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Definitely a lot of nuisance crime within cruising distance of Lake Street regardless of location. This is from personal experience and the anecdotes of several I know who live within about three blocks of it — I had my car window broken in a smash and grab in that same Merlins Rest parking lot, for example. But you’re right, nobody walking around Longfellow during the day or night, even in view of Lake Street, would have ever called it a ghetto before the riots happened. The houses are prim and mostly well-kept, solid and unpretentious.

    On the other hand, the looted Target, Cub and the Hi-Lake strip mall area were suburban-style eyesores ripe for the picking. These were already frequented by delinquents from a larger catchment, including all the trash from Phillips/Seward and shithead kids from South High, and would easily be described as ghetto for anybody walking through them or simply driving by. The one and only time I ever went to that Target there was a broad-daylight thief who tripped the door alarms. I hardly live in a bubble and still have never seen that at another similar store.

    The looters obviously aren’t particularly bright and early on were consistently attacking the only stores they frequented. Witness the weird attraction to standalone Walgreens and Targets in totally unrelated areas. It’s easy to conclude Minneapolis must be swarming with blacks given the looting footage but it just shows how over-represented they were among them. The worst is that this and the arson will severely damage the relatively unscathed parts Lake Street where a redemption arc seemed possible just a short while ago. What a complete waste.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  70. Paul says:

    The current situation exemplifies the point of view that blacks are not good at thinking long term.

    Somebody would have to be crazy to reopen a burned-out store in a black neighborhood.

    Any cost by government to do rebuilding should be borne by the states and municipalies that allowed the destruction to occur. Why should taxpayers in such places as Montana have to pay?

    • Replies: @James Speaks
  71. 128 says:

    What got my attention was Cuomo’s remark that the LAPD has less officers than the NYPD per capita, why is that?

  72. Lot says:

    The share of the store shelves at my local Wal-Mart behind locked glass cabinets has gone up probably 10-fold in 2 years.

    Used to be only high end electronics and a few other items that are small and expensive like premium liquor. Now it is 3/4 of the vitamin and otc medicine area, 100% of electronics, and many other random parts of the store. Entire aisles completely locked.

    I actually haven’t been back there in about 6 month as my last trip so many items were locked and store employees to unlock them were nearly absent.

    Alt-Right Jew-Naming Hero and Incest-Fraud-Bride Ilhan Omar has a plan for MNP:

    • Replies: @Neuday
    , @International Jew
  73. @AnotherDad

    the best approach is never let the middle man minority in. Build it yourself.

    In a world of competing states, that might not happen fast enough. Katherine “the Great” brought in Germans, Poland brought in Jews, not out of love of diversity but because there was an urgent need to compete with modernizing neighbor kingdoms.

    Today’s USA is unfortunately pursuing the opposite strategy of bringing in lots of people who are pulling this country backward. (Though, to a limited extent — the upper tranche of Chinese and Indians who are more than run-of-the-mill coders — we’re following the old model too.)

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Neuday
  74. A Thought:

    What if we Normal White Americans finally fell victim to the overwhelming pressure — the knee on our knecks — and just decided to check out, to commit group suicide and go away.

    What then would be the fate of those left behind? Do they really want us gone? No, they depend on us, and subconsciously they know it.

    If we all just gave up and died — which we are slowly, collectively doing — those left behind would be left with whatever existed before our people built the modern world.

    I almost hope it happens. That is how angry I am.

    • Replies: @Obamahotep
  75. Seneca says:

    @Dieter Kief

    Some people have been mentioning that Peter Turchin was prophetic in 2012 about 2020 being a possible year of revolution in the USA.

    But in my opinion the real prophet is the retired mercenary Thomas W. Chittum (Author) who wrote Civil War II: The Coming Breakup of America in 1992! https://www.amazon.com/Civil-War-Two-Breakup-America/dp/0929408179

    Because of our down time due to the virus I recently read the book and was stunned.

    He was a professional mercenary who served in Vietnam, South Africa, and Serbia. He later became a computer anaylist after he retired from warfare.

    The book was written in 1992!

    And astoundingly in the book he actually predicts that the next civil war in the USA will commence on May 20, 2020 in a town in Los Angles county in California (I forget the town’s name). He admits he is only “ball parking ” the time of the revolution based on trends as they existed in 1992.

    I think he may be right as it looks from my perspective that the West coast may want to break off from the rest of the country. Didn’t Mr. Newsom the governor recently identify California as a “nation state” in one of his missives to the press?

    According to Chittum the revolution and break up of the USA will be based on changing racial demographics (Black, White, Hispanic) and other factors mentioned below. Interestingly, his argument ties in with Stoddard’s theory from his 1928 book (based on his study of Central and South America revolutions) that White elites often use minorities and especially mulattoes in power struggles versus other White elites. Eventually, according to Stoddard the minorities and mulattoes displace their White allies. This is sort of what is happening with the Democratic party, no? The party has already jettisoned Joe six pack and is now in the process of jettisoning Karen and Becky who are his wives, sisters, and daughters.

    I have read Turchin’s books and his theory of the over production of elites (maybe Antifa leaders?), but I think that the Chittum book is shorter and more to the point. His thesis is that multi racial and multi ethnic coutries inevitably collapse at some point unless rigid precautions are taken (e.g. Singapore). In 1992 he saw out sourcing, in sourcing, deindustrialization and unlimited immigration as laying the groundwork for an inevitable revolution based at least partially on race. Highly recommend the book. It is heavily footnoted though not as academically oriented as the Turchin book which is a real slow slog. It reads more like General Glubb’s essay on why countries collapse in that it is relatively very short (about 300 pages) and to the point. The book also offers practical advice for people living in potential combat zones. By the way, despite the fact that Chittum is White, he is not totally unsympathetic to the plight of black and hispanic people. He is just arguing for the point that political disputes are ultimately tribal.

    Steve should give the book and this topic an open thread. Who is the most prophetic Orwell, H.G. Welles, Huxley, Ross Perot (NAFTA was going to lead to dramatic job losses in the manufacturing sector of the USA), Enoch Powell (River of Blood speech), etc.? There are many who have foresight.

    A couple of questions I have for the other commentators. I am currently living outside the USA.

    First, how many actual protesters are there? I have done searches of the web but cannot get a number or estimate. I have read that twenty cities have had protests, but does that mean a 100 people per city, 1,000 people per city, 10,000 people per city, 100,000 people per city? Please ball park some figures for me.

    Second, who is funding ANTIFA? And why haven’t they been all arrested? Who is it? Soros, Globalists, the CIA, the Deep State, Left Elites, Jews, Russians. I saw Taki recently wrote an essay and suggested it was the Chinese. To me that seems very unlikely though they are probably enjoying the protests at Trump’s expense, especially because of Hong Kong. Schadenfreude always tastes sweet. To my way of thinking the organization ANTIFA reminds me of ISIS. Very murky origins and leadership and have never been aggressively prosecuted . It is also unclear which master they are serving. Maybe they are even being used by Trump to alienate voters from Biden? Hard to say. Anyone have any thoughts?

    One final thought. Chittum in his book mentions repeatedly that revolutions based on racial demographics can be very , very cruel and ugly. I truly hope that we can avoid this national tragedy, but I am getting less hopeful as time goes on. The left seems to have refused to accept the democratic process and the rule of law (Russia gate, Epstein, etc….) And they seem to have the upper hand (control of the media, academia, young people, and the entertainment and culture industries) . I wonder if Right has enough testosterone…..The Right is primarily older and doesn’t seem to have the energy or aggressiveness to confront the Left. I am not blaming the Right, but I am sure Steve’s readership skews to those who are older than ANTIFA members and the young protesters. Unfortunatley, this is not good for the Right.

    Steve mentioned the ugliness of ANTIFA in a past post, but they have energy even if it is a sort of Bioleninism as the author Spandrell has averred (i.e. the Left uses those who most socially unfit because they have nothing to lose and a lot to gain and are very loyal). The intellingent are a danger to the leaders of the Bioleninists and will be destroyed after the revolution just like in Cambodia during Pol Pot’s reign and in the Ukraine and Poland during Stalin’s rein. I see that the Left in the USA is already trying to get people to speak up …silence=violence about the Floyd issue because those that refuse to will be considered “wreckers” and destined for the Gulag come the Revolution. So we are now at the struggle session stage.

    I am starting to undertand how some White Russians might have felt in 1917.

  76. anon[415] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alfa158

    Decades ago Walmart had a campaign about selling US made products,

    It was a stated policy of Sam Wall to “buy American”. Until he died, of course….

    until domestic manufactured goods mostly disappeared.

    …then the slightly higher profit margin of Chinese crap became too much for his successors to resist.

    US manufactured goods disappeared in part because chain stores like WalMart came to prefer Chinese goods. Higher profit margin right now, even if it put customers out of work.

    Shorter term thinking than Sam Wall had, that’s for sure.

  77. anon[415] • Disclaimer says:
    @International Jew

    the upper tranche of Chinese and Indians who are more than run-of-the-mill coders

    You ever worked with any Caste Coders? Ever seen any of their…product?

    Lol.

  78. Yay! Food desert forever!

    Minneapolis City Council members consider disbanding the police
    City Pages

    If you’ve been tuned into the Minneapolis public safety scene, you know that for years, Reclaim the Block and other grassroots community groups have been asking the city to do one thing: stop investing in policing.

    Budget meeting after budget meeting, they’d turn out with their petitions and signs, demanding the city put less money into its police department and more money into programs that stop crimes from happening in the first place – affordable housing, addiction counseling, violence prevention programs.

    The council’s been listening.

    “I think we’ve had a vision for a while of wanting to see another kind of city response to those [911] calls,” says Council Member Steve Fletcher, whose Ward 3 covers parts of downtown.

    Calls about mental health crises could be answered by mental health professionals. Calls about opioid abuse could be answered by addiction experts. Instead, both get cops, usually armed.

    But it’s one thing to think that’s a good idea and another to get it done. The city has “struggled” to put any of these reforms in place in a substantial way, Fletcher says.

    Then George Floyd was killed by Minneapolis police.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  79. Lot says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    “A certain schadenfreude”

    My freude isn’t schaden, it is schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium.

  80. @Buzz Mohawk

    We shouldnt kill ourselves, but we should retreat from society to something like Galt’s Gulch in Atlas Shrugged (note i am not recommending the book but i always thought that was its legitimate “big idea”).

    One option is to join John Wesley, Rawles’ proposed American Redoubt. Bit chilly for my tastes but the wife and I are considering. I would hope if successful, mandatory attendance at some screwy church wouldnt happen in my lifetime.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @Buzz Mohawk
  81. Abe says:

    Some clown named Mattis was in the news the other day. Just to be clear- the most important thing to him in the entire world right now is ensuring the continued tip-top operational efficiency of the most expensive military on the planet just so that it can fulfill its dual mission of suppressing armed white revolt against America’s Project 1619-aligned political establishment and their kneeling/do-nothing/looter-enabling cop lackeys while at the same time keeping out the Chinese and Rooskies lest they establish a beachhead and cart anything valuable off before it is all burned down. It’s a perilous, touch-n-go double-envelopment style situation not seen since the Siege of Alesia, so thankfully we have a Caesar-caliber strategic mastermind like Mattis watching out for us.

    • Agree: Kyle
    • Thanks: Harry Baldwin
  82. @AnotherDad

    This is why the best approach is *never let the middle man minority in*. Build it yourself. And in the process you build the skills and capability. (And longer term your population undergoes selection for the traits to do it yourself.)

    Good luck getting the Melanesians to ever do that. Your assumption is that if the Chinese never show up, then the locals will take to these novel (for them) tasks by just learning how to do them.

    Destruction of capability by middle man parasites has affected American blacks as well. Under segregation they had a lot more capability in their community–running their own shops and businesses right up to their own doctors and lawyers at the top. Of course, their capability wasn’t at the level that whites or various middle man groups have. But it was theirs. More money was staying in their community and there were middle class roles–and role models–and an actual Negro community.

    Blacks today are much wealthier and have a much higher percentage of their population in the middle class under integration than they was ever true during segregation.

  83. res says:
    @Art Deco

    Can you give some more detail on the shape of that distribution? Ideally a plot. For example, what proportions of the black population live in 30/50/70/90% black census blocks?

    For anyone interested in a visual look at the percentage black around the US, here is a map of the US showing that (2010 Census data) at state, county, tract and block group levels.
    https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=fc2349f86f394b06ac0e53c4a937e62b

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  84. res says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    But they were peaceful protests, so no problem. Right?

  85. res says:
    @Seneca

    Thanks for the Chittum reference. His Civil War II Checklist (pp. 150-166) is interesting. Here are the first three items. There are 33 more.

    Let’s summarize some of the key factors which will measure our march toward Civil War II. Concerned individuals are invited to watch for their development. The events of this checklist are in no particular order of importance or sequence of occurrence. Some have already occurred to some degree, but should be monitored for further growth.

    Item 1: If the racial tattooing of ethnic classifications on ID cards and other documents persists, we’ll know the countdown clock is ticking. Every time you see a blank for your ethnic group on a form, think Civil War II.

    Item 2: If illegal aliens are allowed to vote, even in local elections, it will be another unmistakable signal that American citizenship, and therefore America itself, is finished. If the millions of illegal aliens in America are granted amnesty and get the vote, it will mean open immigration and a giant step towards Civil War II.

    Item 3: The abolition of the right to bear arms. This must be done to reduce the military potential of those assigned to the bottom tier of the emerging multiethnic American Empire. Those in higher tiers will retain their guns – and thereby their military resources – through devices such as the Nation of Islam’s security company and street gangs. Imperial conversion cannot be completed without breaking the military potential of the white working class, the historic key to military dominance of North America.

    P.S. I think Item 13 warrants a special mention (remember, this was written in 1992).

    Item 13: Watch for minorities and radical whites to continue to seize control of American institutions. Our courts, schools, universities, the media, many churches, and many unions have been completely or partially taken over, and politically incorrect dissidents expelled or intimidated into silence.

  86. Paul says:

    This all reminds me somewhat of Professor Garrett Hardin’s (the Southern Poverty Law Center called him a white nationalist) famous essay “The Tragedy of the Commons.” In the current situation it may make sense to steal since the store is going to be wrecked regardless of what you do. So you might as well get some of the loot.

  87. Wilkey says:

    Well look on the bright side: the Left now has some other “racism” to complain about – more food deserts.

    I think the next step is that people in these neighborhoods start ordering all their groceries online. Then the orders start to disappear from the porch or the delivery drivers get held up. Then Amazon stops delivering there. Then they complain about Amazon’s redlining. Then Amazon, Etc stop redlining but raise delivery surcharges. Then they complain about price-gouging.

    These riots are a cornucopia of racism that will be delivering dividends for decades to come.

  88. “much befuddled”

    The much befuddled often shit where they eat.

  89. Food deserts … Just desserts!

    • Replies: @Goddard
  90. @anon

    I had my car window broken in a smash and grab in that same Merlins Rest parking lot

    Merlin’s has a parking lot? I never knew that. We always parked on the street.

    redemption arc

    The White Castle across the street is now a Tim Horton’s. Is that what you mean by “redemption”?

    Interestingly, we were turned away from Merlin’s one St Patrick’s because, unlike St George’s, that day the pub is reserved for adults. So we got a bite from White Castle instead– and traditional Irish music was playing on the Muzak.

    • Replies: @anon
  91. @bigdicknick

    How were they when it came to tipping?

  92. @KenH

    “Donnie Trump”

    Prostrating oneself before the Sacred Black is now officially the Establishment Sacrament.

  93. anon[415] • Disclaimer says:
    @bigdicknick

    I used to be a waiter at a restaurant that had SOME black customers. Perhaps 15%?

    Good tippers, I’m so sure.

  94. @Ed

    Because my father was a cop, required to live within city limits, and because my smart mouth got me kicked out of Catholic school, I attended an inner city school where I was the minority. It was a life-changing experience, much like that you cite for immigrants, and very much lost on the white youth you see there in the crowds and often on their knees to atone for sins we didn’t commit but for which we are being made to pay.

  95. @Viking1488

    Right-wingers have to stop referring to the new authoritarians as fascist. They are totalitarian, and without style or humor. The Nazis, everybody’s favorite fascists, certainly mine, may not have been humorous, but they sure had a sense of style. I would have signed up for the Waffen SS and fought on the Eastern Front just for a chance to wear that black dress uniform.

  96. @Obamahotep

    John Wesley, Rawles’ proposed American Redoubt

    I have good, lifelong friends there, and I would be perfectly comfortable. My wife would adapt, as she always does, because of her difficult upbringing. It would be luxury for her and like going home for me. Bring it on.

    My only reservation is that it is too small a portion of this great country, the ENTIRETY of which belongs to us. Hold on to all of it. Do not fall for separation fantasies. You don’t even know where they come from.

    Remember the old strategy, “divide and conquer.” Do not allow yourselves to be divided. This is YOUR country, ALL OF IT. Do not divide it. Keep all of it. Demand that. Demand ALL of it. You own it.

    Remember too, that your enemies, so popularized by media, are for the most part unarmed and constrained by their own hatred for Amendment II and Americans. They are essentially unarmed, while you are ARMED, as you have a Constitutional right to be. You would defeat them in any real conflict.

    • Agree: Goatweed
  97. Anonymous[481] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    “Middle man minority” refers to a minority group that links native producers and consumers. In the case of many overseas Chinese in SE Asia and places like Melanesia, they aren’t middle man minorities because there are little to no native producers of the goods and services in question. In most cases, they’re distributing goods made by Chinese in China, or other stuff made by non-Melanesians outside of Melanesia. It’s like saying a Walmart or a McDonald’s franchise or a Buick dealership somewhere is a “middle man minority”. They’re distributors for stuff produced elsewhere by other people.

    If the Targets and Chinese shops were just middle man minorities and thus merely linking native Melanesian producers with Melanesian consumers, and Minneapolis black producers with Minneapolis black consumers, then all the stuff would still be there for Melanesian and black consumers after they burned down. It would just be a matter of distributing what the Melanesians and blacks were already producing natively in Melanesia and Minneapolis.

  98. Kylie says:
    @MikeCLT

    Yes, I found this story of a black businesswoman very poignant. And no, she did not deserve this, either.

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/926466/george-floyd-protests-looters-black-lives-matter-lie/

  99. This area may also be a liquor desert, thanks to these white folk:

    At least they were able to loot the place before it burned down. It’s across from the 3rd Precinct house.

    I’m not surprised to learn that Ingebretsen’s Nordic Marketplace was “smashed and looted”. But I can’t imagine black looters would have spent three minutes in the place. White looters would be more interested in the packages of instant rømmegrøt, Bundt cake pans, and little statues of their Viking ancestors who engaged in similar activities 1200 years ago.

    Looters of color would have grabbed the knitted sweaters and then headed for the nearest panaderia.

    Family Owned Restaurants and Businesses Damaged In First Night of East Lake Street Riots

    Ingebretsen’s has “closed all store operations for the next few days”. I wonder if that includes their branch locations in Norway House, a few miles away on West Lake Street (the directional makes all the difference; the street is named for handsome Lake Calhoun Bde Maka Ska), and Stockholm, Wisconsin, which may be America’s best town of under 100 residents. I suppose everyone’s called in to the mother store to help clean up.

    “Midtown Global Market, a food hall and market run by a neighborhood development nonprofit, will be closed, at least for today, due to damage”– from the article.

    This is a repurposed high-rise Sears store and regional warehouse. The first floor is a souk of sorts. They have African, Latin, Caribbean, Nordic, and even Tibetan shops and eateries. (I got some “Yak Yak Yak” t-shirts there.)

    It’s the kind of place that shows that multiculturalism can work in small doses under consistent umbrella management to local standards. Kind of like a theme park. Midtown reminds me a little of Quincy Market at Faneuil Hall in Boston.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  100. Walsh2 says:
    @backup

    From what I’ve seen the language they’re using is that the funds that would normally go to PDs will be invested in “communities of color.” In other words wealth redistribution of our tax dollars away form police to “communities of color.”

  101. @Anon

    I wonder why it is that hardly anybody notices. –

    – Most likely because Peter Turchin’s analysis is not really optimistic. People don’t like this kind of insight, because reality is hard enough – no need for additional wise-cracks who might say: See – I told you so…

    So – thanks Anon 189 – – I’m glad at least one iSteve-reader got Peter Turchin’s grim message, leaving me not all alone; in the middle of the battlefield, hehe.

  102. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @J Adelman

    Doesn’t the civil unrest let Trump off the COVID-19 hook?

    How can anyone who supported the George Floyd super spreader events blame Trump for the COVID-19 death toll after this?

    My prediction is that COVID-19 will become depoliticized after the riots. The death toll may go up or down, but COVID-19 will be like the flu or heart disease. It won’t be front page news anymore, and the lock downs will be over.

    • Replies: @guest007
    , @Cloudbuster
  103. Neuday says:
    @Lot

    The Minneapolis Police Department has proven themselves beyond reform.

    It’s time to disband them and reimagine public safety in Minneapolis.

    People of African descent have proven themselves beyond reform.

    It’s time to repatriate them and reimagine public safety in America.

  104. @Art Deco

    This is why the best approach is *never let the middle man minority in*. Build it yourself. And in the process you build the skills and capability. (And longer term your population undergoes selection for the traits to do it yourself.)

    Your problem (aside from general malice) is that you harbor the fallacy that the performance of distributional services is some kind of trick da Joos play on the rest of the population.

    Art, i’m sure i have my fair share of “problems”–AnotherMom probably has a list–but i doubt very much you have any great insight into them.

    My point stands: people do not like being bossed around, or lorded over, or exploited or economically dominated by other separate people.

    The very fact that the Guadalcanal Melanesians were going after the Chinese shopkeepers makes the point.

    You are the inveterate tedious cataloguer. I’d think you of all people would be able to roll off a list:
    Indonesia in ’65 (the anti-Chinese part), anti-Chinese attacks in the Philippines, the Armenian genocide, Hutus killing Tutsis, the Nazi Holocaust, the Armenian genocide, South Africa, America’s “race problem” … on … and on … and on …

    People are much happier when the butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker–and the banker–are all the same people as themselves. They may be just joe average, but hey their daughter or granddaughter may be really cute and “marry up” into the banker’s family. Heck, they might be on the bottom–a laborer–but at least the people lording it over them are “their people”–speak their language, practice their religion, look sorta like them and support their community.

    ~~

    And i really do mean that *no one* likes it.

    Jews are all “diversity!” now, because as an elite middle man minority facing a balkanized, disorganized population to exploit is much easier and–they believe–safer. And, yes, there is some particularly Jewish chip-on-the-shoulder historic hostility against white Christian gentiles.

    But lets say the guys from Zeta Reticuli show up with superior technology?

    Well if the ZRs keep the Jews in comfy sinecures as banking, media, academic overseers (i.e. a replay of their tax farming for Polish lords) … the Jews are probably fine with it and we’d hear about the beauty of “interstellar diversity”.

    But what if the ZRs come in mass and are just … better. Better bankers, better lawyers, better scientists, better doctors. Even better at writing screen plays and churning out Hollyweird opiate of the masses pablum? And the Jews no longer have their elite niches to cling to? Well i think you’d find that suddenly the Jews “diversity” b.s. ends at homo sapiens. And we’d hear appeals to “the brotherhood of man” and uniting to drive the ZRs off “mankind’s planet”. Jew Goebbels.

    And the truth is it’s those “kick those foreign bastards out” Jews who would have the better, healthier argument. People should do for themselves.

    • Agree: utu
  105. anon[139] • Disclaimer says:

    “The Blacks have pretty well cleaned out all the food in their areas and they’ve mindlessly destroyed a lot the other things we’re looking for–although we are finding a lot of things they’ve missed…”

  106. @Mr McKenna

    Just the opposite here, but we are an old-fashioned, 99% White town. There is a delay until mid-summer to pay our property taxes, should we need it. Of course, hardly any of us need it, and that is why we can have the delay. Oh, to live in a Real American Town, as we do here.

  107. Art Deco says:
    @anon215

    In kind provision is appropriate for disaster victims, prisoners, and vagrants, not ordinary people. The amount of time I’ve spent waiting in line while people fiddled around with Food Stamps or SNAP cards in lieu of cash has been negligibly small (I seem to recall WIC ate up more processing time). Since groceries are frequently replenished and their consumption is influenced by considerations of taste and amenity, they aren’t a proper object of sectorally specific subsidies; neither is housing and neither are utility bills. You have sectoral subsidies in problem markets like medical care, long-term care, schooling, and (now and again) legal counsel. Sectoral subsidies distort markets and are indifferently adapted to the utility function of individual households, so are inadvisable as a rule. Different sorts of cash transfers give you more bang for the buck.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @anon215
    , @Reg Cæsar
  108. Neuday says:
    @International Jew

    . . . the upper tranche of Chinese and Indians who are more than run-of-the-mill coders

    I’ve worked with a LOT of .Indian coders. Not too many are more then run-of-the-mill. Nice guys, perhaps, but 5 American coders are much better then 30 .Indian coders. The only thing .Indian coders do well is suppress salaries, as I know all too well.

  109. anon[282] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Merlin’s has a parking lot? I never knew that. We always parked on the street.

    Behind the building across 36th. Hidden from view by almost everything unfortunately.

    The White Castle across the street is now a Tim Horton’s. Is that what you mean by “redemption”?

    Ha — okay, at least it still had “potential” and wasn’t totally hopeless, which is more than I can say for west of about 32nd. The Tim Horton’s closed along with all the others in the state within a only a year (?), so ripping out that White Castle was all for naught.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  110. J.Ross says:

    The plan (unless Trump and Barr “interfere”) is to literally blame everything on white people, as though video after video of these events did not exist. This would be a bad joke except that it’s a clear rebranding of the Russian hackers nonsense. Black looters and trustafarian rioters will be memory holed, and social media-polluting Nazi incitors will be talked up as The Problem of Our Time. A Hate Crimes spinoff of Law and Order is being discussed, which contradicts the ingenious plan to simply memory hole all cultural acknowledgment of the existence of police.
    Today NPR interviewed a flamingly dishonest fake expert from a leftist donation reception front which advocates for internet censorship (Network Contagion Research Institute, link below) to scare people about the Secret Army of Bu Ga Lu.
    The Boogaloo is a /k/ meme about food storage. Then again the Russia Hoax depended on a /pol/ meme about urine. No, honestly, I am not making a joke or an exaggeration. The disloyal opposition in our government has repeatedly pinned their hopes on believing everything they read on 4chan. This actually happened multiple times with several iterations, smaller events, and confirmations. These are the Nobel Prize shortlisters who think that Donald Trump is unfit to govern.
    The same people who are adamant that antifa is not an organization per se, or that it cannot be prosecuted because it is a “movement,” want you to believe that “the bougalou” is a movement which ought to be prosecuted. Never forget or forgive the characterization in the lyingpress of “It’s OK To Be White.”

    https://ncri.io/

    • Replies: @anon
  111. Art Deco says:
    @AnotherDad

    My point stands: people do not like being bossed around, or lorded over, or exploited or economically dominated by other separate people.

    Again, the notion you’re being abused by wholesale tradesmen is a fantasy. Living in malicious fantasy is your problem. I haven’t a clue as to what your other problems are, nor do I care. If your wife wants to put up with you spewing poisonous fantasies at the dinner table, great. Keeps you from disfiguring someone else’s life.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Gabe Ruth
  112. Anonymous[165] • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Stalin

    A lot of shopping centers have seen their windows boarded up preemptively by their landlords anticipating looting. One near me has all if its stores open for business but plywood covering all of its glass. It’s much cheaper to pay some guys to bolt some boards to the wall than it is to replace all of the windows in a modern shopping center.

  113. Jack D says:
    @AnotherDad

    people do not like being bossed around, or lorded over, or exploited or economically dominated by other separate people.

    If this was true, then the black businesses that arose during segregation would have remained in business. The truth is that consumers of all races will gravitate to the provider with the lowest prices and the best service, regardless of race. The only way you can prevent this is with force (or with your solution which is to never let more talented people into your country).

    Some “people” (meaning the 10 or 15% of people that Biden refers to) are just no damn good and will use any excuse to take stuff from people who have more than them (which means just about everyone because these no damn good people have no skills or talents and no ability to accumulate money or goods so they always have nothing except for what they take by force).

    In visiting Poland and Ukraine, I didn’t really get the feeling that people were happier now that all their middle man minorities were gone and they had to exclusively patronize providers of their own race who are often less competent than their previous “exploiters”. Back in the days when they still had a choice, they often preferred to patronize Jewish businesses and the “buy Polish” campaigns in Poland in the 1930s consisted of thugs standing in doorways blocking customers from entering Jewish businesses and that kind of thing – only the use of force will dissuade people from choosing the best. It’s not a matter of preference at all.

  114. G. Poulin says:
    @Anon

    I wish the progs would stop trashing the dollar stores. I supplement my grocery shopping with regular trips to the dollar store, and I find that it is quite possible to find decent food there if you are careful. My store has brown rice, dry beans, canned beans, canned and frozen vegetables, yoghurt, eggs, fruit juice, and many other items that I consider perfectly acceptable. But you have to be able to make good choices.

  115. @anon215

    After a night of looting, the locals showed up the next afternoon at their favorite stores, which they had just trashed and burned down, to buy their evening dinner.

    They want to have their cake and burn it, too.

  116. Jack D says:
    @Art Deco

    indifferently adapted to the utility function of individual households

    cash transfers give you more bang for the buck.

    What if your get the most “bang for the buck” by using your cash transfer to buy drugs instead of feeding your kids? What if you get the most “utility” from buying corn syrup laden soft drinks and greasy snack food so this “utility” makes you weigh 300 lbs. and renders you vulnerable to Wuhan Virus (which is also somehow whitey’s fault)?

    You are assuming that benefits recipients are responsible adults who will make rational choices but responsible adults who will make rational choices don’t need to live on the taxpayer’s dime in the first place.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke, Charon
  117. @Obamahotep

    PS: I read Atlas Shrugged when I was an eighteen-year-old high school dropout cutting trees in the Colorado mountains for the US Forest Service in 1978-1979. I am very familiar with the book. It is indeed a legitimate “big idea.” You and I are on the same page.

  118. Carpet tack strips; the answer to all your looting problems.

  119. Steve,
    Aren’t deserts considered foods. Harry doesn’t eat a lot of sweets but deserts can also be cheese plates or somethin’ like that to clear the palate, perhaps a sparkling cocktail.

    Besides lotsa the brothers/sisters are havin’ diabetes and high blood sugars an’ stuff. Perhaps the cocktail idea should be reconsidered. Black coffee, oops…

    Shirley Temple…Roy Rogers…Triggered….

    Regards,
    Harry

  120. @Jack D

    If this was true, then the black businesses that arose during segregation would have remained in business.

    The talented tenth getting siphoned out of black neighborhoods by affirmative action had a lot to do with this.

    • Replies: @Alden
  121. @Paul

    Any cost by government to do rebuilding should be borne by the states and municipalies that allowed the destruction to occur. Why should taxpayers in such places as Montana have to pay?

    Because Uncle Hillary said so.

  122. Anonymous[944] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai

    Private security companies (Pinkertons, Blackwater, etc.) can probably be hired to take up the slack. I don’t think the protesters are going to like this outcome however.

    It’s just a further step in the transformation of the U.S. into a Latin American country, like Brazil, where non-state policing is common.

  123. Kyle says:
    @Altai

    Nice, thanks for updating us on this.

  124. @AnotherDad

    You can’t completely “riot proof” a store.

  125. @Jack D

    Ahh, so now we are Poland in the 1930s. I like you Jack, but you lose me here. Please, for one moment, leave the Jew Shit behind and just look at what is happening as an American, like me, your fellow American.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  126. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    Speaking of offspring embarrassing their parents, turns out Bill Murray’s son is a spitter.
    And a biter. And a lowlife:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8392785/Bill-Murrays-son-Caleb-arrested-allegedly-spitting-biting-police-officer-protest.html

  127. If my dad hung me out to dry like this cuck, I’d never speak to him again. Let him adopt a niglet, one that will attack him in a few years.

    • Thanks: Je Suis Omar Mateen
  128. Anonymous[944] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    That’s like the arguments for and against free trade. People like having cheap stuff. It’s a vote winner too. Appeals to patriotism sound fine but are quickly forgotten when money is tight. If you want people to stop buying foreign goods you need to use coercion.

  129. @Altai

    I’m very serious when I tell people that you have more free speech rights in China than in the America. In China, there’s a limited number of no-nos that are clear and obvious. In the USA, the list of prohibitions is endless and always ex post facto. The only thing I’d worry about in China is instability, particular now that Xi is going the Mao route instead of the more stable Deng model.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if this girl said nasty things about Jews, but I sure wouldn’t want to destroy her father’s business. Ridiculous! Hopefully they have loyal customers who will visit another location, assuming he can obtain one.

  130. Jon says:
    @Dieter Kief

    Here is another link that goes into a bit more detail. https://www.livescience.com/22109-cycles-violence-2020.html
    Looks interesting, going to see if I can get his original paper when I am at work later.

    • Thanks: Dieter Kief
  131. anon215 says:
    @Art Deco

    @Art Deco

    But you miss the point entirely. These people would not be in line in front of us AT ALL if they were instead waiting in line at the government-run food distribution warehouse. It would be a breath of fresh air. Shopping would be so much more pleasant!

    Furthermore, they always seem to have cash on hand for electronic gizmos, video games, etc, which they have to pay for in separate transactions while you wait behind them in line. Remember – Walmart sells food AND all of those other things, all under the same roof.

    And this raises two more questions:

    1. Wouldn’t a food distribution center ensure that these low IQ poors are getting proper nutrition? I mean…. how many times have you seen one of these spandex-clad land whales in the checkout line, paying for half a dozen gallons of colored sugar water with one of those SNAP cards? And with the consumption of said sugar water, what are the hidden costs to our healthcare system? It would be better to give them FREE water filters!

    2. Every dollar spent on video games and other electronic gizmos could have been spent on necessities, such as food. I understand that every dollar spent into the economy contributes to GDP, but come on.

    And this concludes my evil, hate-filed rant. Thanks for listening.

    • Agree: Charon, Dtbb
  132. @jbwilson24

    Blacks seem to forget that Arabs enslaved 80+ million Sub-saharan Africans, cutting off the testicles of the males (courtesy of Jewish physicians). Unlike the British, the Arabs didn’t make an effort to reduce child mortality in the areas of Africa that they conquered.

    For a full and frank description of historical Black & Arab relations, you could do worse than the books of the great explorer Samuel White Baker.
    This is a good one to get you started…
    http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/3233

    While this one is an interesting report into his attempt to suppress the Arab slave trade… http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/3668

  133. Alden says:

    I’m in my Drs office. Wiltshire Beverly Hills is closed off so I had to take a bus and walk from Robertson. Just walked through a completely peaceful, majority black demo in front of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Trades? Tech? Just a few BH traffic trucks and officers. Everyone was polite and friendly to this small old evil 👿 White KKK Nazi White Nationalist woman.

    And guess what? Not one TV or other news van reporters or cameramen

    Been taking pictures all day. Battery ‘s low

  134. Anon[299] • Disclaimer says:

    I was poking around on Zillow and came across some interesting statistics. Los Angeles County has 193 single-family houses available for sale for a price under 100K. County population: 10 million.

    City of Chicago has 1422 single family houses available for sale under 100K. Population of city: 2.7 million. 847 of those houses hit the market in the last 6 months.

    Hm. It looks like the riots and Covid-19 are having a bad effect on Chicago housing sales. Not surprised.

  135. guest007 says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    The most undermentioned occurrence with Covid-19 is that the U.S. has gone from panicking about each individual person who was infected around March 15 to tolerating 1,000 deaths/20k infections a day without a mention in the media.

    I think the media has become bored with Covid-19 and is excited to have the BLM riots to focus on. Of course, the boredom and lack of attention increase the chance that there will be a second wave in the fall/winter and it will affect more people.

    A good lesson to take from Covid-19 is that no issue can last more than 2 months with American citizens. The U.S. seems to suffer from collective ADD and thus no political problem can be solved if the solution takes more than 2 months.

  136. Alden says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Harlem and parts of St Louis and Chicago were the first northern cities to have Sugar Hills and thriving black businesses starting around 1910. From 1910 those neighborhoods were destroyed by riot after riot after riot. Half black and thriving E St Louis destroyer itself with a black riot in 1917. The Whites moved out the blacks remained and its been one of the worst ghettos in the country ever since.

    Harlem and parts of Chicago did have an excellent chance of becoming normal safe thriving communitiesBut the blacks destroyed them before WW 2 by rioting .

    Tabacco capital Durham N Carolina was a center of black and White prosperity. The Durham Negro Improvement League kept control of the black thugs.

  137. @Art Deco

    The amount of time I’ve spent waiting in line while people fiddled around with Food Stamps or SNAP cards in lieu of cash has been negligibly small (I seem to recall WIC ate up more processing time).

    In the Twin Cities, many groceries still take checks. Now that holds up a line.

    • Replies: @Lot
  138. Oprah W says:

    Somehow the article fails to mention it, but this is an enormous business opportunity for the residents of these communities. These food deserts are a gold mine, and now they are everywhere! All it takes is a few sharp local entrepreneurs to step in and fill the void with literally zero outside competition. They will have the highly lucrative inner-city grocery and retail markets all to themselves. Exploiters need not apply!

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  139. anonymous[238] • Disclaimer says:
    @Undocumented Shopper

    The mayor should also censure the Latinos for engaging in vigilante action to protect their neighborhoods along with the Chinese in Chinatown doing the same in Chicago. The Chinese patrolled with guns. Bridgeport is adjacent to Chinatown and a lot of Asians have moved in. I doubt all the “vigilantes” were white. Yet more singling out of white people. Shame on the mayor!

  140. @Art Deco

    Again, the notion you’re being abused by wholesale tradesmen is a fantasy.

    The issue isn’t abuse, but being shown up by the more skilled and talented. People resent show-offs, even, indeed especially, when they rely on them.

  141. Anonymous[402] • Disclaimer says:

    Most white Americans are rootless people, even more so than mestizos. Hispanics are unified by a strong connection to old world Spanish/Southern European culture, they take pride in being “Spanish” even if they don’t even have much if any Spanish ancestry, it’s about the language and culture. In contrast, white Americans shun the basis of their culture and identity, which is English culture and language, most white Americans would consider it a big insult to claim they have anything to do with English culture.

    It’s not unusual for some Americans to refer to the English language as “American” because they can’t stomach calling it “English”. White Americans in my opinion have an unhealthily negative attitude towards English culture/old world culture which has significantly contributed to their rootlessness, atomisation and today’s problems generally.

    • Replies: @Corn
  142. Redman says:
    @Tono Bungay

    In NYC there are tons of middle aged black guys strung out on Fentanyl/Heroin/Opiate of the moment.

    Cops (especially transit cops) must deal with this situation quite a lot. As I said when I saw the first video, Chauvin just got stuck with the eggshell perp. Bad luck.

    What the Floyd incident shows is how small events, often misinterpreted, can lead to enormous consequences. The world is funny that way.

    • Agree: hhsiii, fish
  143. hhsiii says:

    MArket way up this week. OK, so surprise job report that jobs were aded in May (hmm), but it was on a tear even with the rioting even before that.

    Almost as though the market likes that there’ll be less focus on economic issues and more focus on race relations.

    Oh, and maybe the market thinks all this helps Trump.

    But you can’t tell with the market. Although looks like those fed trillions found their way to stocks.

  144. @Undocumented Shopper

    Undocumented, well the whites are patroling their neighborhoods, the Latinos theirs and the Dominicans theirs. The blacks have nothing left to protect in theirs and the downtown is trashed. Lightfoot should be happy Chicago doesn’t look like Hiroshima.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    , @fish
  145. utu says:
    @Seneca

    ” I saw Taki recently wrote an essay and suggested it was the Chinese. ” – Could not find it, so I did not read it. There is no doubt that masking of Covid-19 pandemic by the protests-riots-lootings benefits the Chinese and somewhat postpones the escalation of hostilities that Trump was geared up to. If Floyd George stopped WWIII he deserves canonization.

  146. @Dave Pinsen

    Waiting for guidelines on how many looters are allowed in a retail establishment at one time.

  147. @Joe Magarac

    Joe, Splendid idea and when the petite Mental Health Professional shows up to defuse a problem and is beaten senseless or worse, what is their next step? thank you for posting this.

  148. @Jack D

    If this was true, then the black businesses that arose during segregation would have remained in business.

    No.

    The truth is that consumers of all races will gravitate to the provider with the lowest prices and the best service, regardless of race.

    Often yes. Not always.

    There’s an obvious “tragedy of the commons” aspect to this. People act in their *individual* interest but that is not necessarily the behavior that would benefit their group–and hence themselves, their children, their posterity–long term.

    This is essentially the same as the free-trade vs. protectionist argument.

    A bunch of people–like you–buy foreign cars. Perceive that to be in their individual interest. But i’d argue it pretty clearly isn’t in America’s long term interest. (And hence the interest of my children.) The car industry is a pretty substantial chunk of the industrial economy and outsourcing it is disaster for the US, that long term makes the US poorer, my children’s future poorer.

    In some perfect free-trade fantasy world, we compensate by selling more airplanes or software to the people selling us cars. But
    a) those industries don’t necessarily employ the people or skills of the car builders; (i wrote software that generated sales overseas … most people don’t.)
    b) the capability to build cars–the “car building eco-system–is a valuable skill set you want “your people” to build, to have, to keep
    c) you don’t want to be in a situation where the terms of trade lead to the other guy getting richer and richer and you getting poorer and poorer.

    This is the situation with the US today, were China can do a whole lot of things “better”–i.e. cheaper–and the US trades with China, in return for going deeper into debt. (Cue Polish or Russian peasantry.) You do not want such trade. You are better off without it.

    The only way you can prevent this is with force (or with your solution which is to never let more talented people into your country).

    This is one of the reasons i say “separate nations” a lot.

    The truth is that “force” is being applied whichever way you go. The Polish peasantry did not have a choice about having the Jews come and middle man (or tax farm) them. The American people didn’t vote to have this huge influx of illegals into their nation, and generally have had their preferences regarding immigration blocked by the post-60s anti-republican political-legal system. I.e. Americans have not had a choice either.

    You as a Jew–i’m just going by your comments here, i’ll accept clarification–seem to feel at some deep level that Jews are *entitled* to go anywhere and get in on anything (nations, country clubs, elite universities). But no such “right” actually exists–legally, morally, ethically, logically.

    What i suggest is that people–groups of people–have an inherent natural right (freedom of association) to not admit outsiders but to do their own thing and hence cut through the “tragedy of the commons” box that you outlined above. I.e. people agree to associate and trade only with or preferentially with (whatever works for them) people inside their group even if it’s not in their individual interest, to enable their overall group–and hence their posterity’s long term interest. The nation for this is “a nation”. (Though obviously some groups of people have done it sub-nationally.)

    Bottom line here:

    The immediate market “best price” for service–which is what middle man minorities make a living providing–is not the only consideration. It’s not even a full accounting for all the directly *economic* aspects.

    — Where does the follow on trade go from there?
    Is it as likely to directly or ultimately flow back into my pocket? Or someone in my community’s pocket? Will the seller later buy from me? Will he buy from someone who will buy from me? Or has a portion of the trade left my community … for good?
    — Will me and my community be more prosperous as a result, or more indebted?
    — Will the profits be invested in my community? Make my community more prosperous in the future?
    — Will the capabilities, the skills of my community grow? Such that we’ll be more prosperous in the future.
    — Will the money from the trade accrue to someone with whom my children, my grandchildren, my posterity are likely to marry. So that my posterity benefits down the road.
    — Will the capabilities/skills accrue to someone with whome my children, my grandchildren, my posterity are likely to marry. So that my posterity benefits down the road.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Semperluctor
  149. anon[169] • Disclaimer says:
    @MikeCLT

    And no retards, this woman did not deserve this.

    No one here thinks she deserved it, retard.
    We think genetics caused the riots, not oppression.

  150. @Art Deco

    Art, Mrs. Joe and I just returned from a pleasant drive through the Genesee Valley. Long looping ride through Rushford, Belfast, Belmont,Angelica, Houghton, Letchworth and home.There are almost no blacks in what is mostly farm country. Unless you consider Rochester to be part of the GV, other wise it is vastly white and a lot of Amish.

  151. EldnahYm says:
    @Altai

    Another example of immigrants growing to hate African Americans with an intensity that no white person in the 21st century is capable of.

    Some of us are quite capable.

  152. AP says:
    @Jack D

    In visiting Poland and Ukraine, I didn’t really get the feeling that people were happier now that all their middle man minorities were gone and they had to exclusively patronize providers of their own race who are often less competent than their previous “exploiters”

    FWIW, in western Ukraine the nationalists formed cooperatives and credit unions that largely eliminated the Jewish role as middlemen and drove them into bankruptcy. This was one of the causes of the Jewish emigration from western Ukraine. It was a strange relationship, because the Ukrainian political parties were cooperating with Jewish ones against Polish political parties, while at the same time engaging in a de facto economic blockade.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_cooperative_movement#:~:text=The%20Ukrainian%20Cooperative%20Movement%20was,and%20to%20pay%20less%20for

    Many other cooperatives followed. In 1899, Silsky Hospodar, whose aim was to teach the peasants modern farming methods, was founded. By 1913 it had 32,000 members. Dnister, an insurance company, was established in Lviv and by 1907 had 213,000 policyholders. Most important, however, was the rise of Ukrainian Credit unions. Although some existed as early as 1874, the Vira credit union was the first to be stable and well-regulated. Typically charging approximately 10% interest for loans, hundreds of credit unions sprung up throughout Austrian-ruled Ukraine. They helped put traditional moneylenders out of business. In 1904, a central association of Ukrainian cooperatives was formed, which had 550 institutional affiliates and 180,000 individual members.[1]

    The Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church and its clergy were heavily involved in the cooperative movement, and an association of priests formed whose focus was on improving the peasants’ socioeconomic conditions. Many priests took part in organizing cooperatives. The Church’s leader, Andrei Sheptytsky, taught that the poor needed more than merely money and that the educated or well off had a duty to help the poor learn how to raise themselves from their circumstances – “teach them, show them how to improve their lot.”[2]

    The rise of the cooperative movement in late 19th century Ukraine had several effects. It helped to bring about a close and harmonious relationship between the intelligentsia of western Ukraine and the peasantry, something that the intelligentsia in Russian-ruled Ukraine was not able to accomplish….Because the professions of moneylending and shopkeeping had traditionally been Jewish vocations in western Ukraine, the cooperative movement also created financial hardship for the local Jewish community, by eliminating many Jewish jobs. The financial hardship caused antagonism between the two communities and was a cause for Jewish emigration from Galicia.[1]

    • Replies: @Gabe Ruth
    , @Hamlet's Ghost
  153. @128

    What got my attention was Cuomo’s remark that the LAPD has [fewer] officers than the NYPD per capita, why is that?

    Featherbedding? The NYPD has more members than the US Coast Guard. One patrols five counties, the other, six coasts. At least. Pt Barrow to Borinquen.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    , @Alden
  154. @J Adelman

    Conservatives will recoil in horror from the left even more than before the Antifa/BLM/Soros terror, if that is possible.

    Even the hard left will begin to rethink (those that are capable of independent thought which aren’t many) in light of the terror.

    And the independents will say “yeah Orange Man Bad, but at least he isn’t encouraging the terror like Stinkfinger Joe”.

    And look at the polls. Trump’s approval is greater than Jughead’s on June 5, 2012. Trump will win in 2o20; it’s a racing certainty.

    Be sure to keep plenty of alcohol and anti-depressants on hand for election night. Wouldn’t want you to “self-harm”.

  155. @J Adelman

    Predictions are hard, especially about the future.

    On the surface, the Woke Left seems to have totally taken over America. But just under the surface, a lot of silent majority types may have just been red-pilled. The issue of media bias seems to be especially undeniable now, even to normies.

    Tim Pool had an interesting segment about how LinkedIn allowed its employees to speak anonymously in a virtual employee meeting about Black Lives Matter. Apparently, there were enough based comments to freak out the company and make it apologize.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @HammerJack
  156. Bucky says:
    @Tono Bungay

    Coming from Keith Ellison, who converted to Islamic out of disgust with Christianity? Unlikely.

  157. @Seneca

    his argument ties in with Stoddard’s theory from his 1928 book (based on his study of Central and South America revolutions)

    The only book Stoddard published in 1928 was The Story of Youth, a light-hearted history of education. Are you referring to Revolt Against Civilization (1922), Rising Tide (1920), or The French Revolution in San Domingo (1914)?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lothrop_Stoddard#Books

  158. utu says:
    @AnotherDad

    Polish and Ukrainian peasants had no chance against Jewish monopolization of the market. In every region Jewish traders were organized so no competition was possible. Every cow in a village was counted and assigned to a particular Jewish trader designated by the local Kahal. A peasant could not find another Jew who would offer him a better price for his cow. Jews were not allowed by local Kahals to compete against each other.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Art Deco
    , @AP
  159. Barnard says:

    OT: Bill Murray’s son was arrested for throwing a brick through the window of a pickup owned by an obese redneck in Martha’s Vineyard. Caleb Murray does not sound like a very stable young man. Why didn’t anyone think to astroturf this protest with calls to build high density housing exclusively for people of color on the Vineyard? Demand that new residents Barack and Michelle Obama take the lead on getting this done.

    https://vineyardgazette.com/news/2020/06/01/five-corners-protest-ends-two-arrests

    • Replies: @bigdicknick
  160. J.Ross says:

    https://collider.com/abolish-the-police-steven-universe-she-ra/

    Do We Need the Police? ‘Steven Universe’ and ‘She-Ra’ Suggest We Don’t
    June 4, 2020 at 2:00 pm
    Written by Tahir Duckett

    It may be difficult for many of us to begin to imagine public safety and accountability that does not rely on police and prisons, but two modern cartoons, Rebecca Sugar‘s Steven Universe and Noelle Stevenson‘s She-Ra and the Princesses of Power, are both replete with abolitionist themes that can inspire us to commit to new ways of keeping each other safe.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  161. @Hypnotoad666

    …LinkedIn allowed its employees to speak anonymously in a virtual employee meeting about Black Lives Matter.

    Everybody is going on about George Floyd’s race, but nobody (on either side) mentions his sex.

    It’s about time we spun this into “Male Lives Matter”.

    And I speak as someone who holds the MRA, MGTOW, and PUA movements in contempt, and opposes the sex perversion of registering women with Selective Service. “Rights” are for children, men are about duties.

  162. @Reg Cæsar

    Ingebretsen’s has “closed all store operations for the next few days

    Oy, A lutefisk desert!

  163. starthorn says:

    Nah, it’ll be fine. There’s always Hunga Bustas, 40s and lottery tickets at the corner store.

  164. Yngvar says:
    @RichardTaylor

    Adhering to a religion means having a certain view on how our world works. Following a political doctrine means having a certain view on how our world works. There is no philosophical difference. This discrimination over having a world view must end.

    • Agree: RichardTaylor
  165. Herzog says:
    @jbwilson24

    So true. Also, the large-scale castration they enacted (documented in 19th c. pre-colonial travellers accounts from Africa time and again) really is a standalone feature of Arab and Muslim slavery.

  166. Bucky says:

    Al Sharpton is leading a March on the white house on August 28th.

    It will be very bad. There is a significant chance of a human wave attack or a massacre.

  167. Jack D says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Faulkner said “The past is never dead. It’s not even past.”

    I’m not the one who brought middle man minorities up. That was Another Dad. The Jews of America are largely past that phase – the shops in the ghetto are owned by Korean and Arabs now and soon by whoever is next off the boat.

    But, I gave you an example of Before and After from my own lived experience and that of my parents. I have seen the business directory of my mother’s shtetl in the ’30s and heard from her own mouth the description of the thriving economic activity there (largely Jewish but also Polish). I have seen with my own eyes what’s there now (nothing but subsistence agriculture).

    Trust me that getting rid of the Jews and other middle man minorities is NOT the solution to your problems. They will take the Magic Dirt with them. Ask the people of Uganda. Ask anyone who has lost their middle man minorities and has a brain in their head.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    , @Art Deco
  168. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    Or you know who we could ask is a person who lives on the planet Earth, and who has experienced one of the law-breaking get-rich-clan-plan scam hovels (where they don’t know what an expiration date or a room capacity limit is) with his own eyes, and not a verbal report from a clubmember.

  169. Yngvar says:

    Under President Bush food deserts was proclaimed as latter day red-lining. Now its self-inflicted and it’s still retailers fault.

    We need better journalists. Vote with your dollars.

  170. Jack D says:
    @utu

    This is totally in your head. Jews have no problem competing in business against other Jews. They do this every day and always have. Even if there was a Jewish conspiracy, why couldn’t the peasant sell his cow to a non-Jew? The Jews were maybe 10% of the population of E. Europe at most.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @utu
  171. @Jack D

    Jack,

    The people Biden is referring to are you and me.

  172. Gentlemen, start your engines.

  173. @Reg Cæsar

    Featherbedding? The NYPD has more members than the US Coast Guard. One patrols five counties, the other, six coasts. At least. Pt Barrow to Borinquen

    NYPD is kind of megalomaniacal in that NYC way & thinks of itself as more of a national police force like the FBI. Just as an example, NYPD Intelligence bureau has agents embedded in 14 different international cities.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  174. @kaganovitch

    NYPD is kind of megalomaniacal in that NYC way & thinks of itself as more of a national police force like the FBI. Just as an example, NYPD Intelligence bureau has agents embedded in 14 different international cities.

    On the other hand, they’re barely aware of the 96% of their own state north of Westchester.

  175. @AnotherDad

    You are right.
    I don’t see any basis for Art Deco’s assertion that you are biased against any class of middlemen. There are plenty of those groups: Chinese in the Far East, Jews in Europe and the Americas, Greeks, Lebanese, and Armenians in West Africa, it’s a long list. There’s no racism in arguing that countries benefit more by having their own citizens fill all of the middlemen jobs, from top to bottom. I worked in the Far East doing big ticket project feasibility studies; the competent locals seemed to me to be pretty much as competent as the Chinese, but the latter were much more clannish and better organized, including access to capital. I don’t know what Art Deco does in his line of work, but his postings come off as theoretical political screeds. I can attest, based on direct experience in various countries, that ‘competent locals’ faced unfair structural hurdles in competing with outside middlemen. Once those middlemen established their presences and networks, that was how they ‘outcompeted’ the locals, they seemed to me to be equals in raw ability. I don’t buy the assertion that outside middlemen are more competent or talented; that may in individual cases be true, but broadly, they are more experienced, better networkers, and have access to capital. Support your neighbor the middleman, I say, he or she has more at stake in your community than an outsider.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Art Deco
  176. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    Yeah, documents and history are all in your head. He wasn’t talking about “Jews,” he was talking about a specific arrangement between a specific group of people at a particular time. Why do you bother with such lazy garbage as that reply?

  177. Corn says:
    @Anonymous

    “ It’s not unusual for some Americans to refer to the English language as “American” because they can’t stomach calling it “English”.”

    What?

  178. @Achmed E. Newman

    Global Racial Climate Change.

    Is that yours? It may have staying power.

    Just looked it up and got this:

    “Prior research has shown that people of color in the U.S., including Hispanics/Latinos, African Americans, and other non-White racial/ethnic groups, are more concerned than Whites about climate change.”

    https://climatecommunication.yale.edu/publications/race-and-climate-change/

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  179. RudyM says:

    Don’t talk about food at a time like this:

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  180. @Buffalo Joe

    Lightfoot should be happy Chicago doesn’t look like Hiroshima.

    It’s still early June.
    The hot weather is just beginning.

  181. anon[293] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross

    A Hate Crimes spinoff of Law and Order is being discussed, which contradicts the ingenious plan to simply memory hole all cultural acknowledgment of the existence of police.

    Law and Order, Special Memes Unit.

  182. @bigdicknick

    That’s actually a great line, though I’m not sure how many in the larger world will get it.

    Heck, most blacks might even agree, if you can get them to sit quietly for a moment, and not be on drugs for a moment..

    And while I’m fantasizing, most blacks might even agree that separation would be good for everyone. But then who would be their tax slaves? Hence the dilemma you note.

  183. Lot says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    My grannie pays by check at the grocery. She hands the cashier a completely blank check, who drops it in a little scanner-printer device, and that’s it. Takes no longer than a credit card.

    For reasons that are unclear, she has separate branded credit cards for every department store, but no general purpose one. When she discovered Amazon she got an Amazon card for using only on it.

    Before this impressive check-scanner invention, you still would not mind being behind her, as she had her check filled out except the amount before she left for the store.

  184. @anon

    The Tim Horton’s closed along with all the others in the state within a only a year (?), so ripping out that White Castle was all for naught.

    Is Minnesota a doughnut desert again? Krispy Kreme was also hot for about a year, then disappeared.

    https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-lifestyle/it-looks-like-all-the-twin-cities-tim-hortons-locations-are-closed

    Junk food in general is weak– convenience stores sell Little Debbie, Hostess, and maybe JJs. Lakeland Pies from around St Cloud were good, but only sporadically made it into the Cities.

    It sure ain’t Philly, with its TastyKakes, or even NYC and Drake’s. There is a plethora of steakhouses, though, both local and chain.

  185. Altai [AKA "Altai_2"] says:
    @benjaminl

    Wherever the Chinese (Particularly Southern, Fujianese) go in the Pacific sooner or later somebody’s gunna want to kill them. Been happening since the Spanish and Dutch first started to attract them to trade outposts in the 15th/16th century. Every few years the Spanish typically would just kill them all. Then things would quiet down and more Chinese would come to replace them.

    It’s a fascinating cycle.

  186. @Oprah W

    “Somehow the article fails to mention it, but this is an enormous business opportunity for the residents of these communities. These food deserts are a gold mine, and now they are everywhere! All it takes is a few sharp local entrepreneurs to step in and fill the void with literally zero outside competition. They will have the highly lucrative inner-city grocery and retail markets all to themselves. Exploiters need not apply!”

    Black people engaged in a massive “Street Reparations” operation against Wal-Mart in Chicago recently.

    Due to heavy looting and fire damage at some stores, rumors emerged that the retailer would choose to permanently close the locations, according to Ald. Howard Brookins Jr., 21st.

    Brookins is particularly concerned that the Walmart supercenter at 83rd Street and Stewart Avenue will not reopen, because company officials had earlier complained to him that the location was already losing money.

    https://www.chicagobusiness.com/retail/corrected-walmart-evaluates-reopening-city-stores

    So not even Wal-Mart could make money in the Black community.

    • Replies: @joe_mama
    , @Reg Cæsar
  187. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    In a crudely general way, the ‘left’ vs ‘right’ divide is turning into Myth/Narrative vs Math/Facts.

    ‘Justice’ vs ‘Truth’.

    Maddow vs Tucker is more or less along these lines.

  188. @128

    “What got my attention was Cuomo’s remark that the LAPD has less officers than the NYPD per capita, why is that?”

    Fewer.

  189. J.Ross says:
    @RudyM

    This reminds me of the best joke from standup comic and craft service cook Fabrice Fabrice. He starts to discuss catering for the entertainment industry and what different groups of people always ask for, and then he deliberately brings up fried chicken. Know who likes fried chicken? Black people. But you know who else likes fried chicken? EVERYBODY.

    • LOL: Alden
  190. anon[132] • Disclaimer says:
    @Semperluctor

    Once those middlemen established their presences and networks, that was how they ‘outcompeted’ the locals, they seemed to me to be equals in raw ability.

    Dude, you don’t understand. Nepotism is totally normal competition to Arturo Deco’s people. In fact, it’s pretty typical in most of the tribal world. Only NW Europeans are so foolish as to ask questions such as “Is this good for the community / nation” instead of the more traditional “Is this good for (my tribe)“.

  191. Ed says:
    @Altai

    I don’t know, the head of the MPS city council asked white folks if they’ll follow through with defunding police? She asked if they’ll continue to perpetuate racism and call police for a home break-in? So I think she means defund the police and have some sort of emergency preparedness.

  192. @J.Ross

    Great, now they’ll have the society taking its marching orders from cartoons.

    That being said, though, this seems like window dressing for the real plan, which is to prevent black criminals from being held to account in any way whatsoever. We’re more than halfway there already.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  193. @Hypnotoad666

    And…there are bound to be many more who would have spoken up but for the fact that they wouldn’t necessarily trust LinkedIn actually to keep the communications anonymous.

    I know I wouldn’t. Only takes a wokester or two with access to the machinery. And remember their creed: 1) Racists have no rights 2) Anyone we don’t like is Racist.

  194. utu says:
    @Jack D

    Peasants, the privately owned serfs were emancipated in Russia in 1861 and the state-owned serfs were emancipated in 1866. Do you expect they were able to compete with Jews who were the middlemen between land owners, peasants and city markets for several centuries in Poland and Ukraine? Are you really serious? Kahals existed even though in 1844 they were formally abolished in Russia. Jews then, like you now, often denied their existence and downplayed their important role in organizing the economic life and order within the Jewish communities.

    https://yivoencyclopedia.org/article.aspx/Kahal
    As a result, Jewish communities dedicated themselves even more assiduously to denying that the kahal still existed, and hid the ways in which they governed themselves.

    In the economic sphere Kahals worked like any other city guild that was issuing informal licenses who can do what business and where. There was de facto no competition between Jews. The market was divided between the members of the ‘guild’. Those who wanted to compete had to go to big cities or America. If a peasant had a cow the sale of this cow, its price could not be negotiated up because only one trader within the ‘guild’ was permitted to trade this cow. If the peasant was unhappy with the price no other Jew would offer him a higher one.

    • Replies: @Znzn
  195. @guest007

    • Idiot: Je Suis Omar Mateen

  196. J.Ross says:
    @HammerJack

    Well, they already do take children’s entertainment seriously as indoctrination and pseudo-religion, that’s widely evidenced and has been bemoaned for years. There’s that ridiculous tweet about how “we grew up with Harry Potter and you’re surprised that we’re protesting a legitimate election.”

  197. Alden says:
    @Seneca

    Chittum assumed there’d be enough organized and funded White Nationalists to fight on the White side in a civil war.

    Every successful revolution and civil war more than a scuffle was A elites fighting B elites.. sometimes B elites overthrew A elites and became A elite. Sometime A elites prevailed over B elites and kept top status.

    The object of this revolution appears to be a coalition of every elite wanting to defund police forces.

    First 2010 federal courts ordered state prisoners released because of overcrowding States, even repulsively liberal California fought the federal courts for 4 years but lost.

    2015 on counties began no or very low bail. Various NGOs Tides Woods other foundations paid for the bail.

    2019 no bail at all in many cities. Perhaps the billion dollar NGOs got tired of losing the low bail for their pets who never showed up in court.

    March 2020 Convenient covid hoax arrives and county jails and state prisons empty.

    May 2020 death of Floyd while resisting arrest turns into a royal funeral.

    The liberals have planned for this since 1960. The middleaged children of the 60s rioters are now in charge. Their grandchildren are looting.

  198. newrouter says:
    @guest007

    >A good lesson to take from Covid-19 is that no issue can last more than 2 months with American citizens. <

    More of media thing no? The msm are always on the lookout for "bright shiny" things to upset the public who pays attention to them. A constant new season of reality TV.

    • Replies: @Alden
  199. Art Deco says:
    @Jack D

    Jack, there hasn’t been a Jewish merchant sector in Poland since about 1939 and hasn’t been one in the Ukraine for about a century. Hardly anyone there has a standard of comparison and the few who do were buying wares from Jewish merchants when the societies as a whole were much less affluent.

  200. Moses says:
    @Mr McKenna

    The second one says “For the County to continue providing essential goods and services, the due date for tax payments remains unchanged.”

    It’s like that “fuck you, pay me” scene in Goodfellas:

    But now the guy’s gotta come up with Paulie’s money every week, no matter what. Business bad? Fuck you, pay me. Oh, you had a fire? Fuck you, pay me. Place got hit by lightning, huh? Fuck you, pay me.

    Govt like the mob? I’m shocked, shocked I say!

    • Replies: @Alden
  201. Art Deco says:
    @utu

    Polish and Ukrainian peasants had no chance against Jewish monopolization of the market.

    Again, this is a fantasy. The characteristics of retail and wholesale trade do not generate monopolies or oligopolies bar in circumstances where you have small communities which can support just a single general store. Also, the sectors in question tend to have low margins. Extracting rents requires the organization of a formal cartel which would require state permission if not state enforcement.

  202. Lurker says:
    @rational actor

    Back when the gilet jaunes protests were kicking off in Paris, BBC stalwart Orla Guerin

    That must have been a while back, the BBC lost all interest gilet jaunes protests a long time before the lockdown.

  203. Art Deco says:
    @Semperluctor

    I don’t see any basis for Art Deco’s assertion that you are biased against any class of middlemen.

    What, he has witless fantasies about Lebanese traders too? That makes it so much better.

  204. Alden says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Los Angeles is extremely under policed 9,000 police for 503 square miles 4 million 900 thousand population.

    Reason is police Chief Parker back in the 40s and 50s. He was into modern policing and technology. Police cars radios fast response 911 instead of calling a phone operator electric typewriters up to date switchboard xerox machines as soon as they came out etc. He claimed to have developed the best and most modern police force in the country.

    All this cost lots and lots of money. So he and the city council compromised. Fewer and better officers exchanged for expensive equipment

    Better officers meant more intelligent educated physically fit gentlemanly middle class officers not the usual can’t get into the trades or retail work so I’ll apply to the police types. He also paid middle class wages which really does help to prevent corruption. Higher wages also meant fewer officers.

    Supposedly it worked.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  205. Alden says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Mali and Saudi Arabia abolished slavery de jure in 1960 de facto, never. Libya has slave markets since Hildabeast Killed Ghaddifi.

  206. TGGP says: • Website

    I’ve been staying in as much as possible since my employer shifted to having us work from home, only going out for groceries once a week. So it was just today that I saw my usual grocery store is boarded up, presumably due to last weekend’s riot. The next closest one was a Whole Foods, an imperfect substitute. I guess next week I’ll check if the nearby asian grocery is open.

  207. AP says:
    @utu

    Well, in Western Ukraine the Greek Catholic clergy and petty gentry managed to organize the peasants economically in such a way that the Jews were driven out of their economic positions:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_cooperative_movement

    • Replies: @utu
  208. @HammerJack

    Is that yours? It may have staying power.

    Yeah, made up for that comment. Use it anytime. No charge. ;-}

  209. Alden says:
    @Moses

    The real hit for the local governments will be sales tax. January and February are dead in the northern part of the country anyway. So the credulous fools shut down everything in mid March. So less sales tax April first.

    April and May were closed down less sales tax than normal. June still closed and now the riots.

    I bet property taxes will just soar to make up for the decline in sales tax. Just walk away. Give it to the mayor as a gift. Let them pay the property tax.

  210. Alden says:
    @newrouter

    Right covid hoax was a media thing. Bank’s still appointment only. 6 day wait after you make the appointment Drs office closed make an appointment for zoom next week.

  211. Mike1 says:
    @AnotherDad

    You should see my store in Los Angeles! It is immune to anything except c-4. You are right it is not that hard and not a vast extra expense (not saying cheap but cheaper than losing everything).

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
  212. joe_mama says:
    @Joe Stalin

    A Walmart somewhat near me closed down in recent years. It was startling to many as it was incredibly busy. Apparently it was losing money due to shoplifting. Was also in a fairly diverse part of town.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  213. @Jack D

    You and AnotherDad are both right: people do want to buy from their own kind — but at the high quality and low price that those middleman minorities provide.

    Ditto, Americans today would love to buy Made in America leather shoes for the $25 Chinese-made ones go for at Walmart.

  214. @AnotherDad

    their daughter or granddaughter may be really cute and “marry up” into the banker’s family.

    Well, in America their stupid and fat daughter has a shot at marrying a black guy. So there’s that.

  215. Art Deco says:
    @Alden

    The median cash compensation for police officers is about $60,000 a year right now and they get superlatively good benefits. I suspect if you cycled back to 1928 you’d find that they occupied a position similar to the one they do today in relation to others in the workforce of the time. The state police academy in New York was founded in 1921, btw.

    • Replies: @Alden
  216. utu says:
    @AP

    Market forces are insufficient to break up the monopoly. State or in this case Church authority was needed.

    • Replies: @Anon
  217. @Barnard

    not sure what the technical definition of redneck is, but don’t you usually have to be from the south? That guy is likely some kind of new england construction worker. New England still has tons of older white guys that work in construction.

    It’s also another example of how these protests are a weaponization of the blacks by the rich against the white middle class i.e. construction workers, small businesses, cops etc etc.

  218. Uncle Dan says:

    Prosperity depends on property rights, on respecting other people’s property, even when, especially when the property owner has much more than you do. Breach property rights and you get poverty. It’s as inevitable as sticking a pin in a balloon.

  219. @res

    Here’s another easy to use map to identify the “no-go” areas of our nation.

    https://demographics.coopercenter.org/racial-dot-map

    It’s kinda like looking at a PET scan and seeing how far the cancer has metastasized…

    • Replies: @res
  220. @joe_mama

    I’d bet that more of the stealing at a diverse Walmart goes out the back door rather than the front.

  221. @Jack D

    Your point is well-taken. My comment was over the top. I hadn’t read your dialog with Another Dad.

    My apologies.

    You are one of the best commenters here.

  222. Art Deco says:
    @Jack D

    I have seen with my own eyes what’s there now (nothing but subsistence agriculture).

    There’s hardly any subsistence agriculture anywhere in the occidental world. In Poland, the Ukraine, White Russia, and Lithuania, the share of the working population deployed to the agricultural sector varies between 6% and 16%, or what you would have seen in the US during the period running from about 1940 to about 1960. That’s commercial farming. The former Soviet territories had long histories where state and collective farms were the order of the day. They weren’t replaced by hippies.

    • Agree: AP, Johann Ricke
  223. Znzn says:
    @utu

    I do not know what is so weird about that, Chinese owned auto supplies shops and hardware stores down the street where I live all have roughly the same prices for auto parts and things like screwdrivers so as not to eat into each other’s profit margins, seems to be just common sense among merchants.

  224. @Joe Stalin

    So not even Wal-Mart could make money in the Black community.

    In order to take over an old Kmart in St Paul, Walmart agreed to the city council’s pressure and does not sell weapons there. This is near the intersection of diverse populations– bungalow whites, trash whites, every sort of Asian (with their wildly varying crime rates), blacks, a stray Hispanic or two, plus a thicket of small universities.

    Oh, and some very confused aboriginals, thinking to themselves, “What happened?”

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  225. @Lot

    At my Walmart, the flashlights are locked up. Which I can’t explain.

    Ammo used to be locked up, until most Walmarts stopped selling it.

  226. @Hippopotamusdrome

    Don’t worry, not many people have.

  227. res says:
    @Stan d Mute

    Thanks. That map uses the same 2010 Census data AFAICT. It is much better for giving a visual sense of population density and the relative proportions of the different races. The map I linked is better for drilling down into specific census block groups and looking at more exact numbers.

  228. @Reg Cæsar

    Why don’t companies stand up for the basic constitutional rights of their customers?

    Wal-Mart should have asked: One of the driving forces of the 14Th Amendment was people be able to EXERCISE their Right to Keep and Bear Arms. Guns for Black People. Who the hell are you as elected Representatives to DENY your constituents access to their FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS, Mr. & Ms. Democrat?

    THE JURISPRUDENCE OF THE SECOND
    AND FOURTEENTH AMENDMENTS

    https://www.azcdl.org/Halbrook_TheJurisprudenceoTheSecondandFourteenthAmdts.pdf

  229. Gabe Ruth says:
    @AP

    Fascinating bit of history, thank you.

    • Thanks: AP
  230. Gabe Ruth says:
    @Art Deco

    A revealing exchange. AnotherDad demonstrates excellent huwhyte man etiquette, and in your churlish response you explicitly espouse the very shortsighted attitude he’s taking about, cavalier indifference towards the good of your (digital) neighbor.

    Stay mad online, Art. You can just call us deplorables.

  231. Goddard says:
    @The Alarmist

    Just desserts!

    You blew it. It’s “just deserts” (as in “deserving”)!

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  232. Anon[354] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    About Lombardy, hundreds of people got free meningitis vaccine around Jan 5. In Bergamo, Brescia. Could it have had an effect on the epidemic there?

    https://www.bergamonews.it/2020/01/04/meningite-allats-di-sarnico-lunghe-code-per-il-vaccino/345834/

  233. Alden says:
    @Altai

    She was a teen Agee when she write the tweets. Everyone who went to school with blacks learns to dislike them.

  234. Alden says:
    @Art Deco

    Not really in the 1920s the salary of patrolmen in Boston, NYC Chicago and Philadelphia was below the poverty line for a family of four. And in those days few married couples managed just 2 children. The salaries were so low they had difficulty buying uniforms shoes and equipment

    I read about these low police salaries in several books about law enforcement history. They were paid about what security guards are today.

    Oh God, nothing on TV but the peaceful protestors. That Steve travel guy is doing shows about the rise of racism.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  235. @RichardTaylor

    You have opened my mind a bit further with that remark.
    Thank you.

  236. fish says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    Lightfoot should be happy Chicago doesn’t look like Hiroshima.

    We’re only in the second inning…..!

  237. Art Deco says:
    @Alden

    “The poverty line” is a humbug metric.

    ==

    The Bureau of Economic Analysis reports that $50.5 bn in wages and salaries were paid to employees in 1929. The Bureau of Labor Statistics in 1948 published some estimates on the number of employed persons over the years, concluding that 47.6 million people were employed during 1929. So, the mean annual wage or salary in 1929 was around $1,060 per year.

    I find a reference to U.S. Congressional Serial Set vol. 8836, wherein there’s a report of some Census Bureau data on wages and salaries of police officers collected in 1927. In a set of 25 municipalities, the mean annual compensation for a patrolman is about $2,100 per year. The sergeants and lieutenants were paid more. They weren’t doing badly at all. Given mean wages and salaries in our time, an analogous figure would be about $105,000 per year.

    At the time, the wages or salary would capture a much higher share of total compensation than they would today. The deferred compensation is tremendously important for police officers in our own time. Not sure about the world of 1927.

  238. @Goddard

    I guess I should abandon all hope …

    English desert and its Romance cognates (including Italian and Portuguese deserto, French désert and Spanish desierto) all come from the ecclesiastical Latin dēsertum (originally “an abandoned place”), a participle of dēserere, “to abandon”

  239. @AP

    According to Israel Shahak, the Catholic Church was doing the same thing for Polish peasants during the same time. Of course, this was denounced as “anti-Semitism” to deny Jewish moneylenders and middlemen their lucrative spot in the supply chain.

  240. @Seneca

    First, how many actual protesters are there? I have done searches of the web but cannot get a number or estimate. I have read that twenty cities have had protests, but does that mean a 100 people per city, 1,000 people per city, 10,000 people per city, 100,000 people per city? Please ball park some figures for me.

    I’ve been wondering the same and I can’t find a thing. The only answer I have is: not many.

    Can you name how many people were killed in the protests? I will: 29. So much for the genocidal police. (Contrast that with the 25 dead in Chicago the weekend before last, covered by Steve.)

    Second, who is funding ANTIFA?

    Do they need funding? How much money does it take to buy thrift store black clothing and the ingredients for Molotov cocktails?

    They have some crappy storefront in Brooklyn, I think. They don’t even need that. With a cell phone, you can get 100 of your best criminal friends together and really FSU.

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