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Is the rest of the country having a wave of “follow home robberies” or is this still just a Los Angeles Thing for the moment? From KCAL9:

Studio City Residents Assaulted In Follow-Home Robbery Incident Thursday Night

This was up in the Hollywood Hills on Alta View across from Universal Studios theme park, down the block from where Tarantino filmed the Manson Family’s alternate fate in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

Why are we having new types of crime in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?

 
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  1. I thought you were pushing a new app, Steve.

    “Follow home robberies on the twitter #HomeRobberies page, or download our app and customize it for your location.” 187,362 black people LIKED #HomeRobberies.

    I’ve not heard of it where I live. Watch your 6, as The Great Santini says.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Acchie, I'm guessing Steve doesn't receive Bling Bags worth 100k at awards presentations. Why rob him?

    Replies: @Hunsdon, @Achmed E. Newman

  2. Home security, particularly in rich areas, is much better. Just as car-jacking is the solution to theft-proof ignitions, follow-home robbery is the solution to modern home security.

    • Agree: HammerJack
    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @74v56ruthiyj

    Excellent point. Giving perps license to conceal their faces at all times doesn't really help either.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @74v56ruthiyj

    Great point.

    The face masking BS helps immensely. I wonder how many deaths have resulted indirectly from the fact that nobody wonders what some shady-looking thug is wearing a face mask for anymore.

  3. Excuse me while I practice my joke writing skills…

    When your city police explicitly, publicly announce “tourists, please stay far away from our city as we cannot protect you…” you MIGHT… be living in a third world hellhole. 😎

    https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2021/12/07/we-cant-guarantee-your-safety-head-of-lapds-police-officers-union-warns-tourists-away/

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @Anonymous

    Not quite. You'll know you're really in the 3rd world when the police want you to come, so they can kidnap you. (See under: Mexico)

    Replies: @mc23

    , @Frau Katze
    @Anonymous

    Follow home robberies sound bad but the topic is apparently not a story at NY Times, who for your weekend reading have, “ Nikki Giovanni Has Made Peace With Her Hate”


    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/12/27/magazine/nikki-giovanni-interview.html

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    When entering your city subway makes you feel like Shelly Winters in
    "The Poisidon Adventure," you MIGHT… be living in a thirdworldhellhole. 😎

    https://twitter.com/desertflyer/status/1476611382661447683?s=20

    https://youtu.be/hbI6r2uUtQg

    Replies: @Alden

  4. Steve, don’t you think Alden deserves a tip o’ the hat for this? What are you, some kind of MAN OF UNZ?

    Why are we having new types of crime in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?

    Mass immigration combined with ethnic voting patterns have enabled white liberals to decriminalize crime. The Hollywood Hills types being victimized are collateral damage or just desserts, depending on how one feels.

    Trump seriously upset the applecart of politics. in addition to providing 40% of the electorate with a candidate they did not dream of because they did not know Primary Candidate Trump was possible, Trump’s economy managed to pull in some blacks. Black voters were the dream of the R Establishment (reshtablishment?) but in the words of Mr. Garrison upon seeing God and being asked how he thought God was supposed to look, “not like that.” Blacks were not abandoning the Democrats in droves in 2019, but enough were voting Trump or just not voting that the D team had to pull out all the stops on fraud.

    [MORE]

    The slight tip away from Democrats makes me wonder if the urban liberal whites, who outsource acting upon their racism to the police, went all-in on Black Lives Mattering to try to keep blacks from tilting even further toward Trump.

    Regardless of blacks alignment, liberals have been saying the problem with black behavior is education for so long that the outer party believes it. Trying to get black males up to par — not up to par in reality — but up to par on paper, teachers have gutted education to the point of upsetting rank and file Democrats an Hispanics. Whether Hispanics have the ability to escape working class precarious finances is yet to be seen, but they did not come here to be upstaged by blacks. With the white working class and aspirational Hispanics, plus newly minted conservatives who were liberals until the left decided CRT did not mean “cathode ray tube,” but rather, “please elect Republicans, because we hate all whites, not just conservatives” the Democrats are poised to lose elections over crime and inflation again. “First as tragedy. Then as farce.”

    Tl;dr give Alden her hat-tip, You male chauvinist pig.

    • Agree: PaceLaw
    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Rob

    Trying to get black males up to par — not up to par in reality — but up to par on paper, teachers school boards have gutted education to the point of upsetting rank and file Democrats and Hispanics in rich counties.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/12/teachers-take-a-stand-against-the-war-on-homework.php

  5. I remember there was an epidemic of follow-home rapes in Chicago back in the aughts. Haven’t heard about follow-home anything lately, though.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @JimDandy

    To the extent they are able, the MSM will keep any and all crimes on the local news, if the victims are white and the person are not. And they are able to a very great extent indeed.

    Normally, in that sort of victim/perp situation, they won't even report the crime at all, and when they must they'll omit that particular information so that the masses find it easier to stick with Approved Narratives.

    If you dare to color outside the lines, you'll get what's coming to you.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    , @Sick 'n Tired
    @JimDandy

    If the media doesn't report them, it didn't happen. The same way liberals can claim crime is down by no longer arresting people for drugs, shoplifting, robbery, assault, and mutual combat shootings among gang members.

    Who are you going to believe, crime stats or your lying eyes?

    Replies: @JimDandy

  6. Why are we having new types of crime …

    Because of: Innovators. Disruptors. Whole new para diggms. And joggrs.

    … in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?

    Sometimes citizens should rely on old technology. When unconstitutional laws like the Sullivan Act are struck down, ‘mutual combat’ could factor into many of these future incidents in Blue-voting areas.

    Pending Supreme Court case:

    New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_State_Rifle_%26_Pistol_Association,_Inc._v._Bruen#Case_background

    Nash, for example, sought a permit for a handgun after a string of robberies in his neighborhood but was denied as he could not prove a need for self-defense. The plaintiffs argued that the law and judgements against their permits were flawed; “Good, even impeccable, moral character plus a simple desire to exercise a fundamental right is, according to these courts, not sufficient. Nor is living or being employed in a ‘high crime area.’” About seven other states have similar restrictions as New York in terms of obtaining a concealed-carry permit.

    • Replies: @mikeInThe716
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    NY's racist Sullivan Law should go. And yes, use "racist" to describe it.

    That said, carrying concealed isn't nearly as effective as situational awareness. Especially if you have visible signs of wealth (a nice house, car, clothes). Minimize your presentation of nice things. Yes, that kinda sucks. But that's reality.

    Sidebar: How long until dashcams, cell cameras, networks, and AI progress to the point where you're alerted when suspicious types are near and/or following?
    Or will any firm selling such tech get drown in the woke bathtub?

    , @Joe Stalin
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    When unconstitutional laws like the Sullivan Act are struck down, ‘mutual combat’ could factor into many of these future incidents in Blue-voting areas.
     
    New Yorkers need to do something to directly counteract the narrative that's been foisted upon them by TPTB for over a century by the cosmopolitan gun controllers. It's the networking age, and the era of the newspapers and television editorials is D-E-A-D.

    You need to run stuff like this Smith & Wesson advertising and mentioning that it's NOT normal for a state to dis-empower their citizens. Tell them that being helpless is stupid, that there's nothing more insulting than the police telling you their power exceeds your rights as a citizen.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvG96wlKoD4

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Jenner, CC permits are almost impossible to obtain here in Erie County, NY. It is actually nearly impossible to obtain a pistol permit.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

  7. Why are we having new types of crime in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?

    1. Every generation is new, and did not grow up in the old, and therefore did not learn the lessons of the old. Hence also why today youngsters are emboldened by communism and soft-on-crime policies (“social workers”) — they didn’t study or live through Soviet Russia or 1970s NYC.

    2. Soros DAs are soft on crime, and black/Jewish juries don’t like punishing bad minorities, hence criminals are emboldened. You can have all the proof in the world, but if the prosecutor won’t bring a case or the jury will immediately acquit, it doesn’t matter.

    3. The soft-on-crime policies also releases a lot who shouldn’t be released, who aren’t the brightest bulbs, and who try brazen crimes.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @R.G. Camara

    Soros DAs are soft on crime, and black/Jewish juries don’t like punishing bad minorities, hence criminals are emboldened.


    Do you really think Jewish juries are a thing? Do you imagine the Jews are such "Frier" that they don't know how to get out of jury duty?

    Replies: @Alden

    , @Seneca44
    @R.G. Camara

    "today youngsters are emboldened by communism"

    Was having a dinner conversation with 26 and 30 yo daughters on 12/25 when both of them heavily criticized capitalism (despite them both being employed by large firms with over $100K annual salary) and espoused the virtues of communism. When I gave the examples of USSR, Cuba, Nicarague, et al followed by the old sarcastic saw that, "...they just haven't done it right yet", they both emphatically agreed.

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @Coemgen

  8. Ah, the lost, innocent days of 1965…

    Just walk away, Renee
    You won’t see me follow you back home

    • Replies: @SafeNow
    @Reg Cæsar


    Just walk away, Renee
    You won’t see me follow you back home
     
    Good one!!! The Reg loose brain strikes again.
  9. Kidnapping for ransome might be next in this fucked up dumpster fire of a country, brought to you by George Soros.
    Are rich folks in Cali body guarding up Sailer? I imagine little creepy Zuckerberg must have an army of private security.. Are private security firms in demand like never before there in that idiot state?

    My daughter taught for a couple of years in inner city schools in Virginia while she was getting her graduate degree… You have no idea the depth of the hideous nature of the black inner city youth until you do that… It is worse than ever. Middle school black children will intimidate and assault teachers. There is zero impulse control and the George Floyd mania has made it worse.

    That follow home thing happens in Northern VA… black thugs from PG county have followed people home from a casino across the river in Maryland…. targets have been Asians… Oh don’t look for this story in the Washingon Post by the way… this is not he sort of story they cover… For those of you not from the area, PG or Prince George County is where the thugs live… it is adjacent to Southeast DC…

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Stonewall Jackson

    Thugs coming up from Wilmington, DE (home of Corn Pop and Poppa Joe) to Philly are now a thing. The guys who carjacked the Congresscritter were from Wilmington. The crackhead who drove his stolen car into my daughter's stoop was from Wilmington. They just caught a couple of guys in my neighborhood stealing catalytic converters - visitors from Wilmington.

    Wilmington is now enough of a shithole that there is nothing left worth stealing so they come up here.

    Of course the press has not connected the dots.

    Replies: @Thomas

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Stonewall Jackson

    Stonewall, I will say this again...teachers will walk if you ask them to stay 20 minutes more a week or contribute 2% to their benefit package, but if a teacher is knocked unconscious by a pupil in a class room, they finish out the day like nothing happened.

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Stonewall Jackson

    I imagine little creepy Zuckerberg must have an army of private security.

    You damn betcha!


    Facebook spent more than US$23.4 million on security costs for CEO Mark Zuckerberg in 2020, according to the company's annual executive compensation report.

    Zuckerberg receives a pre-tax annual allowance of US$10 million for his family's security, and in 2020, Facebook spent an additional US$13.4 million on personal security for Zuckerberg “at his residences and during personal travel pursuant to Mr Zuckerberg's overall security programme,” the filing said. In total, Facebook's expenditure is greater than the combined cost of providing security for 10 other top tech executives, which an analysis of CEO security during the pandemic by Protocol tallied up to US$23.3 million.
     
    Zuck knows people hate him and he keeps giving them more and more reasons to do so. He's all-in on Soros DA's and deincarceration.

    Mark Zuckerberg, the CEO of Facebook, has plowed a ton of cash into various pro-crime bids through the Chan-Zuckerberg Initiative with $350 million going to the Justice Accelerator Fund.

    Accelerating justice and freeing criminals is a process that starts far from the Zuckerberg manor.

    The Zuckerberg estate in Dolores Park is protected by a 15-man security team who helped turn the area into what neighbors described as "nothing short of a fortress."
     
    , @Ben the Layabout
    @Stonewall Jackson

    Your words still echo a fondness of a Fairfax County (majority white leafy suburbs) long gone. NoVA has established plenty of colonies of filth of its own, even if still not to the worst of PG or DC. Ironically, Washington itself has gentrified in a few decades; the black population dropped to about 50% from much higher. This probably reflects the expensive real estate. If your rent or home is going to cost the moon, you might as well trade a two-hour each way commute for a slightly higher crime rate and live in the city. Always left unasked is "Where did all the poor Blacks move to?" Perhaps other hellholes: Baltimore is only 30 minutes north. But some of them moved into the suburbs, ah that wonderful Section 8!

    I suspect America's future (for the wealthy or even upper-middle class) will tend more to what Latin America and many other parts of the world have always endured. The wealthy live in walled compounds guarded round-the-clock by private security with firearms. Trips out into the world are only when necessary, and typically will have at minimum a bodyguard or perhaps several in one or more support vehicles.

    It's a pity to say so, but long ago America was unusual in that for the most part, it successfully kept the violent and criminal in prison or at least policed away from respectable areas. But we are returning to the default of the world, where the predator runs free and the sheep must be penned in for their own safety.

    Replies: @Stonewall Jackson

    , @Anonymous
    @Stonewall Jackson


    Kidnapping for ransome might be next in this fucked up dumpster fire of a country, brought to you by George Soros.
     
    That will be harder than in Latin America because of all the surveillance cameras everywhere.

    Unless the police are in on it...
  10. Why are we having new types of crime in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?

    Because we’re in an era when the Soros DAs for making sure crime does pay have never been more numerous.

    • Replies: @HallParvey
    @Almost Missouri


    crime does pay
     
    Crime is Big Business. Lawyers, Judges, Investigators, both Chief and otherwise. Criminal recycling is the in thing because there simply are not enough criminals to go around.

    Think about a pyramid. At the bottom are the victims. Above them are the criminals. Above them are the policemen. Above them are the Investigators. Above them are the Chiefs of Police. Then there are the Mayors and other civilians. Then the criminal justice system with its layers of lawyers.

    Then, continuing the pyramid are the legislators who make the laws. The Universities with their various Lawyer production facilities. Then the incarceration facilities. None of this would be necessary if it weren't for crime. Jobs for the boys.

    I'm sure I missed a few but it's obvious that crime really is big business. On a par with the Military Industrial Complex or the Medical Industrial Complex.

    And this is why we will have crime with us always, in spite of the ability to eliminate it with modern equipment. Next time you drive through a Latin neighborhood, notice the number of homes with barred windows. It's almost a characteristic, like roof tiles.

    Replies: @Ben the Layabout

  11. @Achmed E. Newman
    I thought you were pushing a new app, Steve.

    "Follow home robberies on the twitter #HomeRobberies page, or download our app and customize it for your location." 187,362 black people LIKED #HomeRobberies.

    I've not heard of it where I live. Watch your 6, as The Great Santini says.

    Replies: @Jim Christian

    Acchie, I’m guessing Steve doesn’t receive Bling Bags worth 100k at awards presentations. Why rob him?

    • Replies: @Hunsdon
    @Jim Christian

    Practice makes perfect?

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jim Christian

    Yeah, but Jim, he's known to carry lots of his donator's bitcoin on his person. (The aspiring rappers don't know what it is.) OTOH, he's not a small Oriental woman. Just to be on the safe side, I think Mr. Sailer should go by the Army/Navy store and pick up one of those bazookas, as in Falling Down.

    Steve, if you're going to have one of those Falling Down days, please take video and post it for us. They let you upload one video now instead of making a phone call. See, most people don't know how to make a phone call anymore.

    Replies: @John Milton’s Ghost

  12. @Reg Cæsar
    Ah, the lost, innocent days of 1965...

    Just walk away, Renee
    You won't see me follow you back home

    Replies: @SafeNow

    Just walk away, Renee
    You won’t see me follow you back home

    Good one!!! The Reg loose brain strikes again.

  13. Is the rest of the country having a wave of “follow home robberies” or is this still just a Los Angeles Thing for the moment?

    Seems like very few places have the same situation whereby very large numbers of people like the Roses from Schitt’s Creek who could be very lucrative targets are congregating and parking their cars on certain streets and places to be spotted. LA’s geography too makes follow-homes a lot easier and finally, lots of mansions with lots of space between them make screams and commotion harder to hear. Ask OJ.

    NYC has the same density of rich people but they tend to live in apartments and do they congregate in the same numbers and park as obnoxiously obviously expensive cars on the street as often?

    Does anywhere else in the US have the same density of rich people?

    Why are we having new types of crime in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?

    During the big smash and grabs by professional gangs in NYC they raided a Rolex outlet. Every Rolex has a serial number and so the ones stolen were now tainted meaning you couldn’t sell through a reputable fence because it would be no time before somebody checked the serial number on a watch if they were a serious buyer. Did the guys who did it not care that they’d lose 90% of the resale value and risking getting caught if they sold them on? Did they do it just to own their own? Were they just opportunistic and thus not thinking too deeply. Probably a little of all 3.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Altai

    Probably they didn’t know rolexes have serial numbers.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired

    , @Anonymous
    @Altai

    There's also a high-density millionaire area near Boston, from Sargent Pond to Hammond Pond. Per daily reports, Brookline cops assist even with the removal of noisy turkeys.

    I was surprised to see a handful of Jewesses, children in toe, holding BLM signs on the sidewalks by US Route 1/9, in May 2020. Like, what are the chances someone will disturb your peace?

    Replies: @Brutusale

    , @Billy Corr
    @Altai

    WHAT A LOVELY ROLEX? IS IT REAL?

    It is rumored that enterprising members of the Israeli-trained SWAT team responding to the Somali Shebab raid in the swanky de luxe shopping mall in Nairobi a few years ago took the opportunity to loot the Rolexes and other super-expensive watches, sold these to the very dodgiest Indians in the Indian commercial community and these lovely watches are now adorning brown wrists from Mumbai to Chennai, Singapore and Kuala Lumpur.

    Just a rumor, of course.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @Anon7
    @Altai

    "NYC has the same density of rich people but they tend to live in apartments and do they congregate in the same numbers and park as obnoxiously obviously expensive cars on the street as often?"

    Follow-home crime is not just about rich people. My wife was able to convince her mother to leave NYC when one of her mother's best friends was brutally murdered as she unlocked and entered her modest rent-controlled apartment with an armload of groceries.

    The animals were never caught; and yes, her apartment where she had lived for fifty years was just a couple of blocks from Harlem. Neighborhoods change.

  14. @Altai

    Is the rest of the country having a wave of “follow home robberies” or is this still just a Los Angeles Thing for the moment?
     
    Seems like very few places have the same situation whereby very large numbers of people like the Roses from Schitt's Creek who could be very lucrative targets are congregating and parking their cars on certain streets and places to be spotted. LA's geography too makes follow-homes a lot easier and finally, lots of mansions with lots of space between them make screams and commotion harder to hear. Ask OJ.

    NYC has the same density of rich people but they tend to live in apartments and do they congregate in the same numbers and park as obnoxiously obviously expensive cars on the street as often?

    Does anywhere else in the US have the same density of rich people?

    Why are we having new types of crime in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?
     
    During the big smash and grabs by professional gangs in NYC they raided a Rolex outlet. Every Rolex has a serial number and so the ones stolen were now tainted meaning you couldn't sell through a reputable fence because it would be no time before somebody checked the serial number on a watch if they were a serious buyer. Did the guys who did it not care that they'd lose 90% of the resale value and risking getting caught if they sold them on? Did they do it just to own their own? Were they just opportunistic and thus not thinking too deeply. Probably a little of all 3.

    Replies: @Alden, @Anonymous, @Billy Corr, @Anon7

    Probably they didn’t know rolexes have serial numbers.

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
    @Alden

    Probably don't care either. They'll wear them, sell them to their buddies, or dump them off at shady pawn shops for 5% of their given value. I doubt they know Rolexs have to be serviced occasionally, which means sending them back to the company, having worn out parts replaced, and can end up costing a few grand, depending on what needs to be done.

  15. @R.G. Camara

    Why are we having new types of crime in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?
     
    1. Every generation is new, and did not grow up in the old, and therefore did not learn the lessons of the old. Hence also why today youngsters are emboldened by communism and soft-on-crime policies ("social workers") -- they didn't study or live through Soviet Russia or 1970s NYC.

    2. Soros DAs are soft on crime, and black/Jewish juries don't like punishing bad minorities, hence criminals are emboldened. You can have all the proof in the world, but if the prosecutor won't bring a case or the jury will immediately acquit, it doesn't matter.

    3. The soft-on-crime policies also releases a lot who shouldn't be released, who aren't the brightest bulbs, and who try brazen crimes.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Seneca44

    Soros DAs are soft on crime, and black/Jewish juries don’t like punishing bad minorities, hence criminals are emboldened.

    Do you really think Jewish juries are a thing? Do you imagine the Jews are such “Frier” that they don’t know how to get out of jury duty?

    • Replies: @Alden
    @kaganovitch

    Jews serve on juries. Prosecutors try to keep black criminal loving liberals and Jews off juries.

    Unless the prosecutor has an obvious Jewish name, looks and is a good enough actor to use stereotypical Jewish mannerisms. Then the Jews, especially the old ones will vote for the prosecution.

    I know a prosecutor who had the highest win record in his ultra liberal county. Jewish name, looks and did a great Woody Allen impersonation. Always made sure he got a Jew or two on the jury and always won.

    Replies: @Curle

  16. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:

    Realists always predicted that, basically, as far as open and brazen criminality is concerned, the USA would eventually converge to the pan western hemisphere continental mean, and more specifically the Brazilian pattern. This trend also closely mirroring income inequality.

    Of course, in Brazil far worse and far more brazen than the mere ‘follow home’ robbery is the norm. There you actually get the perps coming right up to your front door and taking what the Hell they want to take.

    • Thanks: Grahamsno(G64)
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Anonymous

    Follow home followed by robbery or rape or murder is definitely a thing in London.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/rolex-killers-jailed-for-life-6329865.html

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/murder-probe-victim-followed-home-7207245.html

    https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/mother-of-two-murdered-by-a-stalker-in-suburbia-7216998.html

  17. When I used to work as a runner on the vegas strip making max limit sports bets for the group I got in the habit of checking my rearview while leaving the strip.

    • Thanks: magilla
  18. Why are we having new types of crime in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?

    Masks are definitely part of the problem. Just three years ago if you saw anyone wearing one it’d raise suspicions enough to consider being a lot more careful and leave the area immediately.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack O'Fire

    Sorry, Jack, I didn't see your comment before I wrote mine.

    Agreed, of course.

  19. How do the crims know whom to follow home? Are the victims guilty of ostentation?

    • Replies: @Technite78
    @dearieme

    I believe they stake out expensive retail stores and "exclusive" clubs and restaurants... places where there's a high probability that the patrons have expensive watches, jewelry, or recent purchases.

    There was a gang in Manhattan hitting the outdoor patrons at expensive restaurants, mostly stealing high end watches (and I don't mean Rolex... more like Audemars Piguet or Richard Mille). On at least one occasion there was gunfire and a victim was shot.

    , @magilla
    @dearieme

    I follow news from Houston where this is very frequent. Seems they go after Asians of all sorts as they tend to deal in and keep large amounts of cash in their homes and businesses. There might also be inside info frombank employees, this is common in Latin America. "This (dot) Indian dude comes in every Thursday and gets $15K in cash" type thing.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l_n7LLf4nSY

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GCG5ZRWUGo8

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eRTzblt_8jI

    , @Alden
    @dearieme

    The robbers drive around expensive stores restaurants and live theater. And follow usually older people or women alone in expensive cars. If the car turns south into Culver City or Mar Vista they stop following. If the car turns north into Holmby Hills and Bel Air the robbers keep following.

    Here’s some tips. Learn where police stations near your home work where you usually shop are. Always watch for followers. If you think anyone’s following you head for the nearest police station. If you think you can make it inside park the car and run inside. If they’re too close just lean on the horn and scream. And remember this. One black man might be OK. Two black men might be OK. Three black men in a car are a robbery rape team looking for a victim,

    Mini malls are everywhere. They are as good as police stations if someone’s following you. There’s always people coming and going and you can go in a store or sit in your car to call the police. Tell the dispatcher someone is being attacked and you think the attacker has a gun. That’s the only way you’ll get a fast police response in a big city.

    When walking keep looking behind you. And never hesitate to open your mouth and scream as loudly as possible and keep it going.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer, @Dmon

    , @Abolish_public_education
    @dearieme

    The oh, so clever thugs surveil the public schools, in non-poor neighborhoods, at around 7:30. They look for imported SUVs -- often double parked (schoolies are always so entitled), notably ones where kids dressed in trendy fashion pour out. When they find a mark, they only have to tail it for 15 minutes or so to find out where she lives (nannies), what time she gets home (does she stop for coffee?), how secluded are the surroundings, etc. Next time, at their convenience, they can just show up at the house at 7:44.

  20. @Anonymous
    Excuse me while I practice my joke writing skills…

    When your city police explicitly, publicly announce "tourists, please stay far away from our city as we cannot protect you…" you MIGHT… be living in a third world hellhole. 😎

    https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2021/12/07/we-cant-guarantee-your-safety-head-of-lapds-police-officers-union-warns-tourists-away/

    Replies: @International Jew, @Frau Katze, @Anonymous

    Not quite. You’ll know you’re really in the 3rd world when the police want you to come, so they can kidnap you. (See under: Mexico)

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @mc23
    @International Jew

    I worked with a guy who's Uncle didn't want to stay in resort, wanted to see the real country, went to Mexico City. He had to pay a $3000 bribe back in 2010 to stay out of prison over a traffic violation.

  21. @JimDandy
    I remember there was an epidemic of follow-home rapes in Chicago back in the aughts. Haven't heard about follow-home anything lately, though.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Sick 'n Tired

    To the extent they are able, the MSM will keep any and all crimes on the local news, if the victims are white and the person are not. And they are able to a very great extent indeed.

    Normally, in that sort of victim/perp situation, they won’t even report the crime at all, and when they must they’ll omit that particular information so that the masses find it easier to stick with Approved Narratives.

    If you dare to color outside the lines, you’ll get what’s coming to you.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @HammerJack

    Is that why the media keeps underreporting Chicago's homicides even when they're admitting that Chicago has the most homicides?

    "Last year ended as one of the most violent on record for Chicago with more fatal shootings than any year in the last quarter century.

    The Chicago Police Department reported 797 homicides in the city in 2021, the most in Chicago since 1996 and more than any other city in the country."

    Is it that murders that don't involve guns no longer count as murders?

    Final 2021 Totals (vs 2020)
    Shot & Killed: 793 (+10%)
    Shot & Wounded: 3749 (+9%)
    Total Shot: 4542 (+9%)
    Total Homicides: 845 (+6%)

  22. Google “bank jugging.” People coming out of the bank are followed, usually not home but to some other location, then robbed … or murdered, since the crime usually involves blacks in their mid teens with guns who panic at the slightest resistance.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Anon

    that was very common in black neighborhoods. All the black women civil servants going to the bank with their paychecks coming out with some cash. And around the check cashing places to get the welfare recipients who came out with a month’s worth of cash and the food stamps.

    Now with direct deposit and the little EBT debit and credit cards it doesn’t happen so much. Now they hang around banks at night to rob people using the ATMs.

    Predators

  23. @Anonymous
    Realists always predicted that, basically, as far as open and brazen criminality is concerned, the USA would eventually converge to the pan western hemisphere continental mean, and more specifically the Brazilian pattern. This trend also closely mirroring income inequality.

    Of course, in Brazil far worse and far more brazen than the mere 'follow home' robbery is the norm. There you actually get the perps coming right up to your front door and taking what the Hell they want to take.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  24. “Wake up, Neo”
    WTF?
    “The blue matrix has you”
    CTRL-ALT-DEL
    “Follow the white home robbery”
    Huh?
    “Knock Knock, Neo!”

  25. Seth Rogen (who is aging badly) says that crime in the big city is nothing to get upset about. This seems to be the attitude the richest Leftists. Maybe they secretly enjoy it. Look at the kind of art and architecture they push. These are friends of civilization.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/seth-rogen-los-angeles-crime

  26. @JimDandy
    I remember there was an epidemic of follow-home rapes in Chicago back in the aughts. Haven't heard about follow-home anything lately, though.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Sick 'n Tired

    If the media doesn’t report them, it didn’t happen. The same way liberals can claim crime is down by no longer arresting people for drugs, shoplifting, robbery, assault, and mutual combat shootings among gang members.

    Who are you going to believe, crime stats or your lying eyes?

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Sick 'n Tired

    True dat.

  27. @Alden
    @Altai

    Probably they didn’t know rolexes have serial numbers.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired

    Probably don’t care either. They’ll wear them, sell them to their buddies, or dump them off at shady pawn shops for 5% of their given value. I doubt they know Rolexs have to be serviced occasionally, which means sending them back to the company, having worn out parts replaced, and can end up costing a few grand, depending on what needs to be done.

  28. Did they own guns? Did one of then hold one Makarov?

    There’s people who don’t want to be helped.

  29. I thought the SoCal rich lived in gated communities, or is that just the upper middle?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Ralph L

    I thought the SoCal rich lived in gated communities

    If you're following someone, after they punch in the code to open the gate you can usually slip in behind them.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

  30. Anonymous[287] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai

    Is the rest of the country having a wave of “follow home robberies” or is this still just a Los Angeles Thing for the moment?
     
    Seems like very few places have the same situation whereby very large numbers of people like the Roses from Schitt's Creek who could be very lucrative targets are congregating and parking their cars on certain streets and places to be spotted. LA's geography too makes follow-homes a lot easier and finally, lots of mansions with lots of space between them make screams and commotion harder to hear. Ask OJ.

    NYC has the same density of rich people but they tend to live in apartments and do they congregate in the same numbers and park as obnoxiously obviously expensive cars on the street as often?

    Does anywhere else in the US have the same density of rich people?

    Why are we having new types of crime in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?
     
    During the big smash and grabs by professional gangs in NYC they raided a Rolex outlet. Every Rolex has a serial number and so the ones stolen were now tainted meaning you couldn't sell through a reputable fence because it would be no time before somebody checked the serial number on a watch if they were a serious buyer. Did the guys who did it not care that they'd lose 90% of the resale value and risking getting caught if they sold them on? Did they do it just to own their own? Were they just opportunistic and thus not thinking too deeply. Probably a little of all 3.

    Replies: @Alden, @Anonymous, @Billy Corr, @Anon7

    There’s also a high-density millionaire area near Boston, from Sargent Pond to Hammond Pond. Per daily reports, Brookline cops assist even with the removal of noisy turkeys.

    I was surprised to see a handful of Jewesses, children in toe, holding BLM signs on the sidewalks by US Route 1/9, in May 2020. Like, what are the chances someone will disturb your peace?

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Anonymous

    You want to see the Brookline police at their jackbooted best, watch when an SUV with tinted windows crosses the border with Mattapan!

  31. Because we let George Soros pick our prosecutors.

  32. @dearieme
    How do the crims know whom to follow home? Are the victims guilty of ostentation?

    Replies: @Technite78, @magilla, @Alden, @Abolish_public_education

    I believe they stake out expensive retail stores and “exclusive” clubs and restaurants… places where there’s a high probability that the patrons have expensive watches, jewelry, or recent purchases.

    There was a gang in Manhattan hitting the outdoor patrons at expensive restaurants, mostly stealing high end watches (and I don’t mean Rolex… more like Audemars Piguet or Richard Mille). On at least one occasion there was gunfire and a victim was shot.

  33. @Jim Christian
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Acchie, I'm guessing Steve doesn't receive Bling Bags worth 100k at awards presentations. Why rob him?

    Replies: @Hunsdon, @Achmed E. Newman

    Practice makes perfect?

  34. It’s been a thing in Latin America for years, many times the bank employees are part of the scheme.

    Also common in Houston, where it’s called jugging. There was a case there in the summer where a man and his wife were followed more than 30 miles from a high-end restaurant back to their gated community.

    It has also been reported to happen to people leaving shooting ranges. If you shoot, and given where we’re headed you should, always check for people following you when you leave. Always save enough ammo for your carry piece(s), and be very careful about stopping on the way home.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @magilla

    Always have a gun on you when you go down range to check/hang targets too. Or better, have a buddy watch your gun while you do. And don’t talk to the guy who wants to help you convert your guns to full auto. No lie, I had this happen to me a couple months ago.

    Replies: @mc23, @Ben the Layabout

    , @The Ringmaster
    @magilla

    Jogging?

    , @Curle
    @magilla

    What value is information from bank employees providing? Plenty of people have lots of bank money but little in terms of home valuables. I suppose the odds of the latter increase with the former . . . still. They could steal blank checks I guess.

    Replies: @magilla, @JR Ewing

  35. @dearieme
    How do the crims know whom to follow home? Are the victims guilty of ostentation?

    Replies: @Technite78, @magilla, @Alden, @Abolish_public_education

    I follow news from Houston where this is very frequent. Seems they go after Asians of all sorts as they tend to deal in and keep large amounts of cash in their homes and businesses. There might also be inside info frombank employees, this is common in Latin America. “This (dot) Indian dude comes in every Thursday and gets $15K in cash” type thing.

  36. @Anonymous
    Excuse me while I practice my joke writing skills…

    When your city police explicitly, publicly announce "tourists, please stay far away from our city as we cannot protect you…" you MIGHT… be living in a third world hellhole. 😎

    https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2021/12/07/we-cant-guarantee-your-safety-head-of-lapds-police-officers-union-warns-tourists-away/

    Replies: @International Jew, @Frau Katze, @Anonymous

    Follow home robberies sound bad but the topic is apparently not a story at NY Times, who for your weekend reading have, “ Nikki Giovanni Has Made Peace With Her Hate”

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/12/27/magazine/nikki-giovanni-interview.html

  37. @74v56ruthiyj
    Home security, particularly in rich areas, is much better. Just as car-jacking is the solution to theft-proof ignitions, follow-home robbery is the solution to modern home security.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Achmed E. Newman

    Excellent point. Giving perps license to conceal their faces at all times doesn’t really help either.

  38. Criminals have better technology too. Apparently the latest thing is Apple Airtags. If they want to steal your car they hide an Airtag on it so they can find it later on, maybe carjack you as you emerge from your home.

    If you have an iPhone it will alert you if there is a nearby unknown Airtag but Android phones won’t unless you install a special app and run a manual scan.

  39. @Stonewall Jackson
    Kidnapping for ransome might be next in this fucked up dumpster fire of a country, brought to you by George Soros.
    Are rich folks in Cali body guarding up Sailer? I imagine little creepy Zuckerberg must have an army of private security.. Are private security firms in demand like never before there in that idiot state?

    My daughter taught for a couple of years in inner city schools in Virginia while she was getting her graduate degree... You have no idea the depth of the hideous nature of the black inner city youth until you do that... It is worse than ever. Middle school black children will intimidate and assault teachers. There is zero impulse control and the George Floyd mania has made it worse.

    That follow home thing happens in Northern VA... black thugs from PG county have followed people home from a casino across the river in Maryland.... targets have been Asians... Oh don't look for this story in the Washingon Post by the way... this is not he sort of story they cover... For those of you not from the area, PG or Prince George County is where the thugs live... it is adjacent to Southeast DC...

    Replies: @Jack D, @Buffalo Joe, @Harry Baldwin, @Ben the Layabout, @Anonymous

    Thugs coming up from Wilmington, DE (home of Corn Pop and Poppa Joe) to Philly are now a thing. The guys who carjacked the Congresscritter were from Wilmington. The crackhead who drove his stolen car into my daughter’s stoop was from Wilmington. They just caught a couple of guys in my neighborhood stealing catalytic converters – visitors from Wilmington.

    Wilmington is now enough of a shithole that there is nothing left worth stealing so they come up here.

    Of course the press has not connected the dots.

    • Replies: @Thomas
    @Jack D

    To answer Steve's question, follow home robberies do seem to have hit the East Coast too.

    "NJ pharma exec followed 50 miles from casino, killed in his home," New York Post, October 30, 2021

    https://nypost.com/2021/10/30/nj-pharma-exec-sree-aravapalli-killed-after-followed-home-from-parx-casino/

    Good time for SCOTUS to hopefully strike down "may issue" concealed carry.

    Replies: @Jack D

  40. But…but…but…the weather is so NICE.

  41. @Jim Christian
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Acchie, I'm guessing Steve doesn't receive Bling Bags worth 100k at awards presentations. Why rob him?

    Replies: @Hunsdon, @Achmed E. Newman

    Yeah, but Jim, he’s known to carry lots of his donator’s bitcoin on his person. (The aspiring rappers don’t know what it is.) OTOH, he’s not a small Oriental woman. Just to be on the safe side, I think Mr. Sailer should go by the Army/Navy store and pick up one of those bazookas, as in Falling Down.

    Steve, if you’re going to have one of those Falling Down days, please take video and post it for us. They let you upload one video now instead of making a phone call. See, most people don’t know how to make a phone call anymore.

    • Replies: @John Milton’s Ghost
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I watched -Falling Down- and cheered the Michael Douglass character almost to the end. Maybe killing the Nazi was too much, but maybe not. As Chris Rock might say, I don’t agree, but I do understand . . .

  42. @74v56ruthiyj
    Home security, particularly in rich areas, is much better. Just as car-jacking is the solution to theft-proof ignitions, follow-home robbery is the solution to modern home security.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Achmed E. Newman

    Great point.

    The face masking BS helps immensely. I wonder how many deaths have resulted indirectly from the fact that nobody wonders what some shady-looking thug is wearing a face mask for anymore.

  43. @Jack O'Fire

    Why are we having new types of crime in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?
     
    Masks are definitely part of the problem. Just three years ago if you saw anyone wearing one it'd raise suspicions enough to consider being a lot more careful and leave the area immediately.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Sorry, Jack, I didn’t see your comment before I wrote mine.

    Agreed, of course.

  44. @Rob
    Steve, don’t you think Alden deserves a tip o’ the hat for this? What are you, some kind of MAN OF UNZ?

    Why are we having new types of crime in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?
     
    Mass immigration combined with ethnic voting patterns have enabled white liberals to decriminalize crime. The Hollywood Hills types being victimized are collateral damage or just desserts, depending on how one feels.

    Trump seriously upset the applecart of politics. in addition to providing 40% of the electorate with a candidate they did not dream of because they did not know Primary Candidate Trump was possible, Trump’s economy managed to pull in some blacks. Black voters were the dream of the R Establishment (reshtablishment?) but in the words of Mr. Garrison upon seeing God and being asked how he thought God was supposed to look, “not like that.” Blacks were not abandoning the Democrats in droves in 2019, but enough were voting Trump or just not voting that the D team had to pull out all the stops on fraud.

    The slight tip away from Democrats makes me wonder if the urban liberal whites, who outsource acting upon their racism to the police, went all-in on Black Lives Mattering to try to keep blacks from tilting even further toward Trump.

    Regardless of blacks alignment, liberals have been saying the problem with black behavior is education for so long that the outer party believes it. Trying to get black males up to par — not up to par in reality — but up to par on paper, teachers have gutted education to the point of upsetting rank and file Democrats an Hispanics. Whether Hispanics have the ability to escape working class precarious finances is yet to be seen, but they did not come here to be upstaged by blacks. With the white working class and aspirational Hispanics, plus newly minted conservatives who were liberals until the left decided CRT did not mean “cathode ray tube,” but rather, “please elect Republicans, because we hate all whites, not just conservatives” the Democrats are poised to lose elections over crime and inflation again. “First as tragedy. Then as farce.”

    Tl;dr give Alden her hat-tip, You male chauvinist pig.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Trying to get black males up to par — not up to par in reality — but up to par on paper, teachers school boards have gutted education to the point of upsetting rank and file Democrats and Hispanics in rich counties.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/12/teachers-take-a-stand-against-the-war-on-homework.php

  45. @R.G. Camara

    Why are we having new types of crime in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?
     
    1. Every generation is new, and did not grow up in the old, and therefore did not learn the lessons of the old. Hence also why today youngsters are emboldened by communism and soft-on-crime policies ("social workers") -- they didn't study or live through Soviet Russia or 1970s NYC.

    2. Soros DAs are soft on crime, and black/Jewish juries don't like punishing bad minorities, hence criminals are emboldened. You can have all the proof in the world, but if the prosecutor won't bring a case or the jury will immediately acquit, it doesn't matter.

    3. The soft-on-crime policies also releases a lot who shouldn't be released, who aren't the brightest bulbs, and who try brazen crimes.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Seneca44

    “today youngsters are emboldened by communism”

    Was having a dinner conversation with 26 and 30 yo daughters on 12/25 when both of them heavily criticized capitalism (despite them both being employed by large firms with over $100K annual salary) and espoused the virtues of communism. When I gave the examples of USSR, Cuba, Nicarague, et al followed by the old sarcastic saw that, “…they just haven’t done it right yet”, they both emphatically agreed.

    • Replies: @JR Ewing
    @Seneca44

    It is very easy - extremely easy- to lead young wannabe commies to the logical conclusion that dissenters must necessarily be dealt with. They will usually just shrug and say some version of broken eggs and omelettes.

    There is no realization at all that previous “wrong” regimes all went bad precisely because they came to the same inevitable conclusion.

    , @Coemgen
    @Seneca44

    The word, Capitalism, does sound scary. It's better to call the system by the descriptive Free Market (decentralized control of the economy and people).

    Communism is a euphemism for totalitarianism (centralized control of the economy and people).

    So, which do people prefer: the Free Market or Totalitarianism?

    Steve Sailer occasionally makes reference to the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis. Sapir-Whorf is a concept worth keeping in mind.

    Oh yeah, in case Socialism replaces Communism in your discussions: Socialism is the milder form of totalitarianism.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

  46. @Almost Missouri

    Why are we having new types of crime in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?
     
    Because we're in an era when the Soros DAs for making sure crime does pay have never been more numerous.

    Replies: @HallParvey

    crime does pay

    Crime is Big Business. Lawyers, Judges, Investigators, both Chief and otherwise. Criminal recycling is the in thing because there simply are not enough criminals to go around.

    Think about a pyramid. At the bottom are the victims. Above them are the criminals. Above them are the policemen. Above them are the Investigators. Above them are the Chiefs of Police. Then there are the Mayors and other civilians. Then the criminal justice system with its layers of lawyers.

    Then, continuing the pyramid are the legislators who make the laws. The Universities with their various Lawyer production facilities. Then the incarceration facilities. None of this would be necessary if it weren’t for crime. Jobs for the boys.

    I’m sure I missed a few but it’s obvious that crime really is big business. On a par with the Military Industrial Complex or the Medical Industrial Complex.

    And this is why we will have crime with us always, in spite of the ability to eliminate it with modern equipment. Next time you drive through a Latin neighborhood, notice the number of homes with barred windows. It’s almost a characteristic, like roof tiles.

    • Replies: @Ben the Layabout
    @HallParvey

    The comment on barred windows in Latino communities is true. However, there is an historical context. This goes back many centuries, to the old country and (I believe) even to the Romans. If you've traveled widely, as I have (also I've studied Spanish language & culture although I'm an Anglo) you would note that decorative wrought iron work or its equivalent is found in many nations, cities, small towns and villages. I'm not denying that property crime is non-existent. Of course not. I've seen plenty of barbed wire around homes, dogs on roofs and the occasional armed guard, during my travels. My point is that bars, gratings and other window and door coverings exist for reasons beyond mere physical security.

    Replies: @Jack D

  47. @Jack D
    @Stonewall Jackson

    Thugs coming up from Wilmington, DE (home of Corn Pop and Poppa Joe) to Philly are now a thing. The guys who carjacked the Congresscritter were from Wilmington. The crackhead who drove his stolen car into my daughter's stoop was from Wilmington. They just caught a couple of guys in my neighborhood stealing catalytic converters - visitors from Wilmington.

    Wilmington is now enough of a shithole that there is nothing left worth stealing so they come up here.

    Of course the press has not connected the dots.

    Replies: @Thomas

    To answer Steve’s question, follow home robberies do seem to have hit the East Coast too.

    “NJ pharma exec followed 50 miles from casino, killed in his home,” New York Post, October 30, 2021

    https://nypost.com/2021/10/30/nj-pharma-exec-sree-aravapalli-killed-after-followed-home-from-parx-casino/

    Good time for SCOTUS to hopefully strike down “may issue” concealed carry.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Thomas

    I think we mentioned this here before. Probably not a good idea to carry your winnings home in cash.

    Since Covid I've been using cash less and less and "tap your phone" more and more. The US is way behind on this, with lots of 3rd world places where phone transactions have replace cash even for the smallest purchases.

    Yes, "may issue" seems incompatible with modern 2nd Amendment jurisprudence but the Court did recognize that gun licensing could be subject to reasonable conditions. I think there is a middle ground where people with violent felony convictions or other black marks should not be entitled to licenses but everyone else should.

    Replies: @anon, @Abe, @Thomas, @Achmed E. Newman

  48. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Why are we having new types of crime …
     
    Because of: Innovators. Disruptors. Whole new para diggms. And joggrs.

    … in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?
     
    Sometimes citizens should rely on old technology. When unconstitutional laws like the Sullivan Act are struck down, ‘mutual combat’ could factor into many of these future incidents in Blue-voting areas.

    Pending Supreme Court case:

    New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_State_Rifle_%26_Pistol_Association,_Inc._v._Bruen#Case_background


    Nash, for example, sought a permit for a handgun after a string of robberies in his neighborhood but was denied as he could not prove a need for self-defense. The plaintiffs argued that the law and judgements against their permits were flawed; "Good, even impeccable, moral character plus a simple desire to exercise a fundamental right is, according to these courts, not sufficient. Nor is living or being employed in a 'high crime area.'" About seven other states have similar restrictions as New York in terms of obtaining a concealed-carry permit.
     

    Replies: @mikeInThe716, @Joe Stalin, @Buffalo Joe

    NY’s racist Sullivan Law should go. And yes, use “racist” to describe it.

    That said, carrying concealed isn’t nearly as effective as situational awareness. Especially if you have visible signs of wealth (a nice house, car, clothes). Minimize your presentation of nice things. Yes, that kinda sucks. But that’s reality.

    Sidebar: How long until dashcams, cell cameras, networks, and AI progress to the point where you’re alerted when suspicious types are near and/or following?
    Or will any firm selling such tech get drown in the woke bathtub?

  49. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Why are we having new types of crime …
     
    Because of: Innovators. Disruptors. Whole new para diggms. And joggrs.

    … in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?
     
    Sometimes citizens should rely on old technology. When unconstitutional laws like the Sullivan Act are struck down, ‘mutual combat’ could factor into many of these future incidents in Blue-voting areas.

    Pending Supreme Court case:

    New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_State_Rifle_%26_Pistol_Association,_Inc._v._Bruen#Case_background


    Nash, for example, sought a permit for a handgun after a string of robberies in his neighborhood but was denied as he could not prove a need for self-defense. The plaintiffs argued that the law and judgements against their permits were flawed; "Good, even impeccable, moral character plus a simple desire to exercise a fundamental right is, according to these courts, not sufficient. Nor is living or being employed in a 'high crime area.'" About seven other states have similar restrictions as New York in terms of obtaining a concealed-carry permit.
     

    Replies: @mikeInThe716, @Joe Stalin, @Buffalo Joe

    When unconstitutional laws like the Sullivan Act are struck down, ‘mutual combat’ could factor into many of these future incidents in Blue-voting areas.

    New Yorkers need to do something to directly counteract the narrative that’s been foisted upon them by TPTB for over a century by the cosmopolitan gun controllers. It’s the networking age, and the era of the newspapers and television editorials is D-E-A-D.

    You need to run stuff like this Smith & Wesson advertising and mentioning that it’s NOT normal for a state to dis-empower their citizens. Tell them that being helpless is stupid, that there’s nothing more insulting than the police telling you their power exceeds your rights as a citizen.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Joe Stalin


    foisted upon them by TPTB for over a century by the cosmopolitan gun controllers
     
    That may change in 2022. Happy New Year, Joe
  50. @Thomas
    @Jack D

    To answer Steve's question, follow home robberies do seem to have hit the East Coast too.

    "NJ pharma exec followed 50 miles from casino, killed in his home," New York Post, October 30, 2021

    https://nypost.com/2021/10/30/nj-pharma-exec-sree-aravapalli-killed-after-followed-home-from-parx-casino/

    Good time for SCOTUS to hopefully strike down "may issue" concealed carry.

    Replies: @Jack D

    I think we mentioned this here before. Probably not a good idea to carry your winnings home in cash.

    Since Covid I’ve been using cash less and less and “tap your phone” more and more. The US is way behind on this, with lots of 3rd world places where phone transactions have replace cash even for the smallest purchases.

    Yes, “may issue” seems incompatible with modern 2nd Amendment jurisprudence but the Court did recognize that gun licensing could be subject to reasonable conditions. I think there is a middle ground where people with violent felony convictions or other black marks should not be entitled to licenses but everyone else should.

    • Agree: JMcG
    • Replies: @anon
    @Jack D

    Me too. Even though I believe in cash as a sorta civil liberties/privacy issue. I have less and less that is worth the trouble to steal. Home electronics are no longer worth the trouble. Big ass/cheap flatscreens, for example. Probably only barely be sold. Apple laptops and iPhones that are trackable and brickable. No jewelry of value.
    So, I'm not highly alarmed or anything, but zero cash and I use phone rather than physical cards.

    Replies: @Paul Mendez, @Curle

    , @Abe
    @Jack D


    Yes, “may issue” seems incompatible with modern 2nd Amendment jurisprudence but the Court did recognize that gun licensing could be subject to reasonable conditions. I think there is a middle ground where people with violent felony convictions or other black marks should not be entitled to licenses but everyone else should.
     
    Isn’t the ballot supposedly greater than the bullet? Then why do the sort of people who so ostentatiously support “common sense” gun control laws also tend to support (correlation coefficient somewhere between 0.7 and 0.9) putting the ballot in the hands of ex-violent felons?
    , @Thomas
    @Jack D


    I think we mentioned this here before. Probably not a good idea to carry your winnings home in cash.
     
    I wonder what the alternative would be for casino winnings. Maybe casinos will start letting people cash out in crypto. When I lived in LA, a friend of mine there was a semi-professional poker player who spent a lot of time at Hollywood Park. At one point, he was going to apply in a local town or through the sheriff in an unincorporated area for a carry permit on the argument that he had to carry unusually large amounts of cash at times. He moved to Florida though before he ever went through with that plan. I wonder if they would have approved him. Supposedly, LA County Sheriff Villanueva has liberalized review of carry applications a lot in the past year.

    A couple of years ago, I was on a weekend in Vegas with some buddies. I'm a Vegas veteran, having gone there at least every couple of months for years, again, when I was only 3 hours away in LA. So I'd learned from experience what to do and what not to do in Vegas more than most. One friend had a large amount of cash with him in his wallet when he took a trip to a bordello on his last night. Unsurprisingly, his cash wasn't still in his wallet when he left. We basically had to "escort" him back to McCarran to keep him from trying to go back and get his cash by doing something that would probably have landed him in jail or worse.

    Since Covid I’ve been using cash less and less and “tap your phone” more and more. The US is way behind on this, with lots of 3rd world places where phone transactions have replace cash even for the smallest purchases.
     
    I definitely do most of my spending now via tap payments through my watch or phone. I usually keep about $100 in cash on me just in case, but, since the pandemic, it's months before I spend it and need to hit up an ATM again.

    Yes, “may issue” seems incompatible with modern 2nd Amendment jurisprudence but the Court did recognize that gun licensing could be subject to reasonable conditions. I think there is a middle ground where people with violent felony convictions or other black marks should not be entitled to licenses but everyone else should.
     
    Felons aren't even allowed to have guns of any kind under either current Second Amendment jurisprudence or under federal law, license or no. 10 year federal felony. Even beyond the gun issue, subjecting any right, or even any more or less ministerial process, to essentially unfettered law enforcement discretion, is, as far as I know, all but unheard of in any other context. I remember that the Alameda County Sheriff (East San Francisco Bay Area) when I lived there expected every applicant to carry a massive liability policy and submit to an examination by a psychiatrist chosen by the Sheriff. May issue has also been fertile ground (again, especially in California) for official corruption by law enforcement. Federal indictments against crooked cops who were granting permits for pay have been handed down over this issue in the last several years in several counties.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack D

    We all have permits, Jack. I don't even need to carry mine, and it might fall apart if I did, seeing as it was written up in 1789 and signed in 1791.

    Replies: @Jack D

  51. Follow Home Robberies

    In San Francisco, Follow Home/to the Hotel from the Airport Vehicle Break-Ins are now popular. The perps wait at the airport arrival lanes, note the SUV’s that are loaded up with baggage, follow them to the local destination and then do a quick smash and grab if the occupants walk inside before emptying the vehicle.

    I imagine that this M.O. will quickly propagate across the country.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Neutral Observer

    That kind of "go for the hire car" theft has long been a thing in places like Spain and Southern Italy, both "follow from the airport", when you can be pretty sure all the goodies are in the boot/trunk, and the more opportunistic "hire car in the public car park" ones.

    A relative suffered from the latter on the last day of the holiday while having lunch in a small town - their cards, phones and passports were with them but the cases with clothes/cameras/Ipads/laptops all went.

    Still, not as bad as the couple I knew who flew into Sicily, picked up a car at the airport, drove into town with her handbag on the back window shelf. At the lights, motorcycle pulls up alongside, back window smashed and they're off with her handbag. Welcome to Palermo!

    Replies: @Jack D

  52. Some context on this one:

    – House is worth $2,400,000
    – Owned by Russian immigrants
    – Owners are in the medical marijuana business

    The follow home thing is real in LA but this one was very targeted. The odds the robbers got a very large amount of cash is high.

  53. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Why are we having new types of crime …
     
    Because of: Innovators. Disruptors. Whole new para diggms. And joggrs.

    … in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?
     
    Sometimes citizens should rely on old technology. When unconstitutional laws like the Sullivan Act are struck down, ‘mutual combat’ could factor into many of these future incidents in Blue-voting areas.

    Pending Supreme Court case:

    New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_State_Rifle_%26_Pistol_Association,_Inc._v._Bruen#Case_background


    Nash, for example, sought a permit for a handgun after a string of robberies in his neighborhood but was denied as he could not prove a need for self-defense. The plaintiffs argued that the law and judgements against their permits were flawed; "Good, even impeccable, moral character plus a simple desire to exercise a fundamental right is, according to these courts, not sufficient. Nor is living or being employed in a 'high crime area.'" About seven other states have similar restrictions as New York in terms of obtaining a concealed-carry permit.
     

    Replies: @mikeInThe716, @Joe Stalin, @Buffalo Joe

    Jenner, CC permits are almost impossible to obtain here in Erie County, NY. It is actually nearly impossible to obtain a pistol permit.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Buffalo Joe

    That may change in 2022. Happy New Year, Joe

  54. @Stonewall Jackson
    Kidnapping for ransome might be next in this fucked up dumpster fire of a country, brought to you by George Soros.
    Are rich folks in Cali body guarding up Sailer? I imagine little creepy Zuckerberg must have an army of private security.. Are private security firms in demand like never before there in that idiot state?

    My daughter taught for a couple of years in inner city schools in Virginia while she was getting her graduate degree... You have no idea the depth of the hideous nature of the black inner city youth until you do that... It is worse than ever. Middle school black children will intimidate and assault teachers. There is zero impulse control and the George Floyd mania has made it worse.

    That follow home thing happens in Northern VA... black thugs from PG county have followed people home from a casino across the river in Maryland.... targets have been Asians... Oh don't look for this story in the Washingon Post by the way... this is not he sort of story they cover... For those of you not from the area, PG or Prince George County is where the thugs live... it is adjacent to Southeast DC...

    Replies: @Jack D, @Buffalo Joe, @Harry Baldwin, @Ben the Layabout, @Anonymous

    Stonewall, I will say this again…teachers will walk if you ask them to stay 20 minutes more a week or contribute 2% to their benefit package, but if a teacher is knocked unconscious by a pupil in a class room, they finish out the day like nothing happened.

  55. Anon[284] • Disclaimer says:

    New York’s caretaker governor signed some antidiscrimination legislation that will collect more data on racist hate crimes, including the race of both the victim and the perp. Apparently it requires more granularity than simply Asian, and it somehow makes it easier for Chinaphone victims to report crimes.

    This should be good. I wonder if antisemitic attacks will also be covered?

  56. anon[208] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @Thomas

    I think we mentioned this here before. Probably not a good idea to carry your winnings home in cash.

    Since Covid I've been using cash less and less and "tap your phone" more and more. The US is way behind on this, with lots of 3rd world places where phone transactions have replace cash even for the smallest purchases.

    Yes, "may issue" seems incompatible with modern 2nd Amendment jurisprudence but the Court did recognize that gun licensing could be subject to reasonable conditions. I think there is a middle ground where people with violent felony convictions or other black marks should not be entitled to licenses but everyone else should.

    Replies: @anon, @Abe, @Thomas, @Achmed E. Newman

    Me too. Even though I believe in cash as a sorta civil liberties/privacy issue. I have less and less that is worth the trouble to steal. Home electronics are no longer worth the trouble. Big ass/cheap flatscreens, for example. Probably only barely be sold. Apple laptops and iPhones that are trackable and brickable. No jewelry of value.
    So, I’m not highly alarmed or anything, but zero cash and I use phone rather than physical cards.

    • Replies: @Paul Mendez
    @anon

    The problem with your strategy is that the perp has to hold you up or break into your house in order to learn you don’t have anything worth stealing.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    , @Curle
    @anon

    You make good arguments, but I’ve gone the opposite direction, refusing to even use online banking. My concern is that ACH standards being as loose as I perceive them to be seems to put all responsibility for fraud on the account holder as opposed to the bank. Lots of criminals are unwilling to create anything but minimally plausible looking fake checks that can be easily refuted if accepted my merchants/banks. With ACH, who knows? By refusing to go ACH with transactions banks have limited things they can force you to prove to get your money back.

    Tell me why I’m wrong.

    Replies: @anon

  57. @Jack D
    @Thomas

    I think we mentioned this here before. Probably not a good idea to carry your winnings home in cash.

    Since Covid I've been using cash less and less and "tap your phone" more and more. The US is way behind on this, with lots of 3rd world places where phone transactions have replace cash even for the smallest purchases.

    Yes, "may issue" seems incompatible with modern 2nd Amendment jurisprudence but the Court did recognize that gun licensing could be subject to reasonable conditions. I think there is a middle ground where people with violent felony convictions or other black marks should not be entitled to licenses but everyone else should.

    Replies: @anon, @Abe, @Thomas, @Achmed E. Newman

    Yes, “may issue” seems incompatible with modern 2nd Amendment jurisprudence but the Court did recognize that gun licensing could be subject to reasonable conditions. I think there is a middle ground where people with violent felony convictions or other black marks should not be entitled to licenses but everyone else should.

    Isn’t the ballot supposedly greater than the bullet? Then why do the sort of people who so ostentatiously support “common sense” gun control laws also tend to support (correlation coefficient somewhere between 0.7 and 0.9) putting the ballot in the hands of ex-violent felons?

  58. @Buffalo Joe
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Jenner, CC permits are almost impossible to obtain here in Erie County, NY. It is actually nearly impossible to obtain a pistol permit.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    That may change in 2022. Happy New Year, Joe

  59. Why are we having new types of crime in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?

    $0.25 face mask can easily beat $2500 security cameras & facial recognition software.

    • Agree: Right_On
  60. @dearieme
    How do the crims know whom to follow home? Are the victims guilty of ostentation?

    Replies: @Technite78, @magilla, @Alden, @Abolish_public_education

    The robbers drive around expensive stores restaurants and live theater. And follow usually older people or women alone in expensive cars. If the car turns south into Culver City or Mar Vista they stop following. If the car turns north into Holmby Hills and Bel Air the robbers keep following.

    Here’s some tips. Learn where police stations near your home work where you usually shop are. Always watch for followers. If you think anyone’s following you head for the nearest police station. If you think you can make it inside park the car and run inside. If they’re too close just lean on the horn and scream. And remember this. One black man might be OK. Two black men might be OK. Three black men in a car are a robbery rape team looking for a victim,

    Mini malls are everywhere. They are as good as police stations if someone’s following you. There’s always people coming and going and you can go in a store or sit in your car to call the police. Tell the dispatcher someone is being attacked and you think the attacker has a gun. That’s the only way you’ll get a fast police response in a big city.

    When walking keep looking behind you. And never hesitate to open your mouth and scream as loudly as possible and keep it going.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @Alden

    " .. Tell the dispatcher someone is being attacked and you think the attacker has a gun. That’s the only way you’ll get a fast police response in a big city."

    It can also get you in big trouble. I remember a case (which I wasn't able to find) where a robbery victim falsely reported a gun was used to get a faster response, the responding police shot the unarmed perp and the victim ended up in big trouble.

    Replies: @74v56ruthiyj, @Alden

    , @Dmon
    @Alden

    "If the car turns south into Culver City or Mar Vista they stop following. "

    So the best defense against being followed home and robbed at gunpoint by blacks is to live in an area with lots of Mexicans.

  61. Legal open carry is one solution.

    • Disagree: Old Prude
    • Replies: @Paul Mendez
    @Muggles


    Legal open carry is one solution.
     
    A bad idea.

    Open carry tells the perp two things:

    1) You’re carrying something valuable enough to be worth stealing (your gun).

    2) Any attack on you must be sudden and ferocious to succeed.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Old Prude, @thenon, @Muggles

    , @Old Prude
    @Muggles

    Open carry is a bad idea; Someone bigger than you gets an idea to bully you to get your gun, what are you going to do? Cops have open carry and how many times to jacked-up blacks try to get the weapon? There are too many joggers and dingers and a-holes in the world for one to be parading around with a visible firearm and no badge.

    If the gun is under your shirt or in your jacket it is not an open provocation, but serves its purpose just as well as an open carried weapon.

    And even if you live amongst the Quakers, walking around with a firearm strapped to your belt or slung over your shoulder is anti-social behavior. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

    , @Gunsrfun
    @Muggles

    Open carry eliminates the surprise factor. Also if you are not super vigilant the gun can be taken from you by someone who has their gun in hand, quick draw is not very effective with a gun in your face.
    I do like your thought process. I have taken to carting two side arms in my daily travels around town and I add an AR pistol to my truck when out of town . I keep it easy to access without moving from the driver seat , five inch barrel and a shake awake reddot site that co witness with open iron sites . 30 rounds of 5.56x 45 will discourage most if not all local thugs.

  62. @kaganovitch
    @R.G. Camara

    Soros DAs are soft on crime, and black/Jewish juries don’t like punishing bad minorities, hence criminals are emboldened.


    Do you really think Jewish juries are a thing? Do you imagine the Jews are such "Frier" that they don't know how to get out of jury duty?

    Replies: @Alden

    Jews serve on juries. Prosecutors try to keep black criminal loving liberals and Jews off juries.

    Unless the prosecutor has an obvious Jewish name, looks and is a good enough actor to use stereotypical Jewish mannerisms. Then the Jews, especially the old ones will vote for the prosecution.

    I know a prosecutor who had the highest win record in his ultra liberal county. Jewish name, looks and did a great Woody Allen impersonation. Always made sure he got a Jew or two on the jury and always won.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Alden

    Is there really an conviction imbalance between Jewish and Gentile deputy prosecutors in places like New York? I suppose if there’s an Jewish defendant but also where there’s only an black defendant and the defense attorney isn’t Jewish?

    Replies: @Alden

  63. @dearieme
    How do the crims know whom to follow home? Are the victims guilty of ostentation?

    Replies: @Technite78, @magilla, @Alden, @Abolish_public_education

    The oh, so clever thugs surveil the public schools, in non-poor neighborhoods, at around 7:30. They look for imported SUVs — often double parked (schoolies are always so entitled), notably ones where kids dressed in trendy fashion pour out. When they find a mark, they only have to tail it for 15 minutes or so to find out where she lives (nannies), what time she gets home (does she stop for coffee?), how secluded are the surroundings, etc. Next time, at their convenience, they can just show up at the house at 7:44.

  64. Why are we having new types of crime in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?

    Because crime does pay. For the criminals and the participants in the so-called Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice professions. Not for schmucks like you and me who pay for it all.

  65. @Sick 'n Tired
    @JimDandy

    If the media doesn't report them, it didn't happen. The same way liberals can claim crime is down by no longer arresting people for drugs, shoplifting, robbery, assault, and mutual combat shootings among gang members.

    Who are you going to believe, crime stats or your lying eyes?

    Replies: @JimDandy

    True dat.

  66. JMcG says:
    @magilla
    It's been a thing in Latin America for years, many times the bank employees are part of the scheme.

    Also common in Houston, where it's called jugging. There was a case there in the summer where a man and his wife were followed more than 30 miles from a high-end restaurant back to their gated community.

    It has also been reported to happen to people leaving shooting ranges. If you shoot, and given where we're headed you should, always check for people following you when you leave. Always save enough ammo for your carry piece(s), and be very careful about stopping on the way home.

    Replies: @JMcG, @The Ringmaster, @Curle

    Always have a gun on you when you go down range to check/hang targets too. Or better, have a buddy watch your gun while you do. And don’t talk to the guy who wants to help you convert your guns to full auto. No lie, I had this happen to me a couple months ago.

    • Replies: @mc23
    @JMcG

    I suppose this was always good advice but not so far in the distant pass it seemed unneeded. Public gun ranges seemed to be convivial spots where you could enjoy the company of others who enjoyed shooting.

    And this wasn’t out in the sticks but in South Eastern PA. , adjacent to Philly. The benefits of a high trust society that’s going away.

    Replies: @thenon

    , @Ben the Layabout
    @JMcG

    Nonsense. I met a guy last month who says he can get me a good deal on some full auto military surplus M16s. 🤣

  67. @Jack D
    @Thomas

    I think we mentioned this here before. Probably not a good idea to carry your winnings home in cash.

    Since Covid I've been using cash less and less and "tap your phone" more and more. The US is way behind on this, with lots of 3rd world places where phone transactions have replace cash even for the smallest purchases.

    Yes, "may issue" seems incompatible with modern 2nd Amendment jurisprudence but the Court did recognize that gun licensing could be subject to reasonable conditions. I think there is a middle ground where people with violent felony convictions or other black marks should not be entitled to licenses but everyone else should.

    Replies: @anon, @Abe, @Thomas, @Achmed E. Newman

    I think we mentioned this here before. Probably not a good idea to carry your winnings home in cash.

    I wonder what the alternative would be for casino winnings. Maybe casinos will start letting people cash out in crypto. When I lived in LA, a friend of mine there was a semi-professional poker player who spent a lot of time at Hollywood Park. At one point, he was going to apply in a local town or through the sheriff in an unincorporated area for a carry permit on the argument that he had to carry unusually large amounts of cash at times. He moved to Florida though before he ever went through with that plan. I wonder if they would have approved him. Supposedly, LA County Sheriff Villanueva has liberalized review of carry applications a lot in the past year.

    A couple of years ago, I was on a weekend in Vegas with some buddies. I’m a Vegas veteran, having gone there at least every couple of months for years, again, when I was only 3 hours away in LA. So I’d learned from experience what to do and what not to do in Vegas more than most. One friend had a large amount of cash with him in his wallet when he took a trip to a bordello on his last night. Unsurprisingly, his cash wasn’t still in his wallet when he left. We basically had to “escort” him back to McCarran to keep him from trying to go back and get his cash by doing something that would probably have landed him in jail or worse.

    Since Covid I’ve been using cash less and less and “tap your phone” more and more. The US is way behind on this, with lots of 3rd world places where phone transactions have replace cash even for the smallest purchases.

    I definitely do most of my spending now via tap payments through my watch or phone. I usually keep about $100 in cash on me just in case, but, since the pandemic, it’s months before I spend it and need to hit up an ATM again.

    Yes, “may issue” seems incompatible with modern 2nd Amendment jurisprudence but the Court did recognize that gun licensing could be subject to reasonable conditions. I think there is a middle ground where people with violent felony convictions or other black marks should not be entitled to licenses but everyone else should.

    Felons aren’t even allowed to have guns of any kind under either current Second Amendment jurisprudence or under federal law, license or no. 10 year federal felony. Even beyond the gun issue, subjecting any right, or even any more or less ministerial process, to essentially unfettered law enforcement discretion, is, as far as I know, all but unheard of in any other context. I remember that the Alameda County Sheriff (East San Francisco Bay Area) when I lived there expected every applicant to carry a massive liability policy and submit to an examination by a psychiatrist chosen by the Sheriff. May issue has also been fertile ground (again, especially in California) for official corruption by law enforcement. Federal indictments against crooked cops who were granting permits for pay have been handed down over this issue in the last several years in several counties.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Thomas

    Most casinos will give you your winning in a check or wire transfer if you ask them to. They prefer to give you cash because they hope you will spend it in the casino the next day so you have to ask for it to be paid that way and they may make you wait around a bit and give you a slight runaround, hoping that you will give up and take it in cash.

    Replies: @Thomas

  68. @Anonymous
    Excuse me while I practice my joke writing skills…

    When your city police explicitly, publicly announce "tourists, please stay far away from our city as we cannot protect you…" you MIGHT… be living in a third world hellhole. 😎

    https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2021/12/07/we-cant-guarantee-your-safety-head-of-lapds-police-officers-union-warns-tourists-away/

    Replies: @International Jew, @Frau Katze, @Anonymous

    When entering your city subway makes you feel like Shelly Winters in
    “The Poisidon Adventure,” you MIGHT… be living in a thirdworldhellhole. 😎

    https://twitter.com/desertflyer/status/1476611382661447683?s=20

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Anonymous

    Well, union station is in a low lying area. And very near the river. Driving in Ca monsoon winters I always try to check as far ahead as possible to see if the streets are flooded. Going downhill can be a disaster. I once saw a couple blocks off the water so high in the intersection it covered the seats of the bus benches. So I took a right turn and and went back. And, the flooded intersection wasn’t even at the bottom of a hill. Just more or less flat. People were driving through the water.

    NorCal sometimes the rain falls so fast the windshield wipers can’t keep up. And the man hole covers are swept away as the pipes are flooded. Still, it’s a lot better than months of snow.

    No mudslides so far.

    Replies: @Hibernian

  69. @Anonymous
    @Altai

    There's also a high-density millionaire area near Boston, from Sargent Pond to Hammond Pond. Per daily reports, Brookline cops assist even with the removal of noisy turkeys.

    I was surprised to see a handful of Jewesses, children in toe, holding BLM signs on the sidewalks by US Route 1/9, in May 2020. Like, what are the chances someone will disturb your peace?

    Replies: @Brutusale

    You want to see the Brookline police at their jackbooted best, watch when an SUV with tinted windows crosses the border with Mattapan!

  70. “Why are we having new types of crime in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?”

    Quite easy Steve, the answer is masks. Just about all of the thieves in these smash-and-grabs are wearing a mask of some sort. The Covid-era requirements of wearing a mask pretty much whenever you’re in public spaces has made crime prevention even worse. And let’s not even mention the criticism facial recognition technology (if a thief is too stupid not to wear a mask while committing a crime), which many blacks claim is racist.

  71. @Joe Stalin
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    When unconstitutional laws like the Sullivan Act are struck down, ‘mutual combat’ could factor into many of these future incidents in Blue-voting areas.
     
    New Yorkers need to do something to directly counteract the narrative that's been foisted upon them by TPTB for over a century by the cosmopolitan gun controllers. It's the networking age, and the era of the newspapers and television editorials is D-E-A-D.

    You need to run stuff like this Smith & Wesson advertising and mentioning that it's NOT normal for a state to dis-empower their citizens. Tell them that being helpless is stupid, that there's nothing more insulting than the police telling you their power exceeds your rights as a citizen.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvG96wlKoD4

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    foisted upon them by TPTB for over a century by the cosmopolitan gun controllers

    That may change in 2022. Happy New Year, Joe

  72. @Anon
    Google “bank jugging.” People coming out of the bank are followed, usually not home but to some other location, then robbed … or murdered, since the crime usually involves blacks in their mid teens with guns who panic at the slightest resistance.

    Replies: @Alden

    that was very common in black neighborhoods. All the black women civil servants going to the bank with their paychecks coming out with some cash. And around the check cashing places to get the welfare recipients who came out with a month’s worth of cash and the food stamps.

    Now with direct deposit and the little EBT debit and credit cards it doesn’t happen so much. Now they hang around banks at night to rob people using the ATMs.

    Predators

  73. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    When entering your city subway makes you feel like Shelly Winters in
    "The Poisidon Adventure," you MIGHT… be living in a thirdworldhellhole. 😎

    https://twitter.com/desertflyer/status/1476611382661447683?s=20

    https://youtu.be/hbI6r2uUtQg

    Replies: @Alden

    Well, union station is in a low lying area. And very near the river. Driving in Ca monsoon winters I always try to check as far ahead as possible to see if the streets are flooded. Going downhill can be a disaster. I once saw a couple blocks off the water so high in the intersection it covered the seats of the bus benches. So I took a right turn and and went back. And, the flooded intersection wasn’t even at the bottom of a hill. Just more or less flat. People were driving through the water.

    NorCal sometimes the rain falls so fast the windshield wipers can’t keep up. And the man hole covers are swept away as the pipes are flooded. Still, it’s a lot better than months of snow.

    No mudslides so far.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Alden

    Extensive parts of Chicago are like that. We're New Orleans North, with a lot of reclaimed wetlands.

  74. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jim Christian

    Yeah, but Jim, he's known to carry lots of his donator's bitcoin on his person. (The aspiring rappers don't know what it is.) OTOH, he's not a small Oriental woman. Just to be on the safe side, I think Mr. Sailer should go by the Army/Navy store and pick up one of those bazookas, as in Falling Down.

    Steve, if you're going to have one of those Falling Down days, please take video and post it for us. They let you upload one video now instead of making a phone call. See, most people don't know how to make a phone call anymore.

    Replies: @John Milton’s Ghost

    I watched -Falling Down- and cheered the Michael Douglass character almost to the end. Maybe killing the Nazi was too much, but maybe not. As Chris Rock might say, I don’t agree, but I do understand . . .

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  75. @Thomas
    @Jack D


    I think we mentioned this here before. Probably not a good idea to carry your winnings home in cash.
     
    I wonder what the alternative would be for casino winnings. Maybe casinos will start letting people cash out in crypto. When I lived in LA, a friend of mine there was a semi-professional poker player who spent a lot of time at Hollywood Park. At one point, he was going to apply in a local town or through the sheriff in an unincorporated area for a carry permit on the argument that he had to carry unusually large amounts of cash at times. He moved to Florida though before he ever went through with that plan. I wonder if they would have approved him. Supposedly, LA County Sheriff Villanueva has liberalized review of carry applications a lot in the past year.

    A couple of years ago, I was on a weekend in Vegas with some buddies. I'm a Vegas veteran, having gone there at least every couple of months for years, again, when I was only 3 hours away in LA. So I'd learned from experience what to do and what not to do in Vegas more than most. One friend had a large amount of cash with him in his wallet when he took a trip to a bordello on his last night. Unsurprisingly, his cash wasn't still in his wallet when he left. We basically had to "escort" him back to McCarran to keep him from trying to go back and get his cash by doing something that would probably have landed him in jail or worse.

    Since Covid I’ve been using cash less and less and “tap your phone” more and more. The US is way behind on this, with lots of 3rd world places where phone transactions have replace cash even for the smallest purchases.
     
    I definitely do most of my spending now via tap payments through my watch or phone. I usually keep about $100 in cash on me just in case, but, since the pandemic, it's months before I spend it and need to hit up an ATM again.

    Yes, “may issue” seems incompatible with modern 2nd Amendment jurisprudence but the Court did recognize that gun licensing could be subject to reasonable conditions. I think there is a middle ground where people with violent felony convictions or other black marks should not be entitled to licenses but everyone else should.
     
    Felons aren't even allowed to have guns of any kind under either current Second Amendment jurisprudence or under federal law, license or no. 10 year federal felony. Even beyond the gun issue, subjecting any right, or even any more or less ministerial process, to essentially unfettered law enforcement discretion, is, as far as I know, all but unheard of in any other context. I remember that the Alameda County Sheriff (East San Francisco Bay Area) when I lived there expected every applicant to carry a massive liability policy and submit to an examination by a psychiatrist chosen by the Sheriff. May issue has also been fertile ground (again, especially in California) for official corruption by law enforcement. Federal indictments against crooked cops who were granting permits for pay have been handed down over this issue in the last several years in several counties.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Most casinos will give you your winning in a check or wire transfer if you ask them to. They prefer to give you cash because they hope you will spend it in the casino the next day so you have to ask for it to be paid that way and they may make you wait around a bit and give you a slight runaround, hoping that you will give up and take it in cash.

    • Replies: @Thomas
    @Jack D

    Good to know. I've never won enough nor sought to win enough in a casino to know that.

  76. Relating to home invasions, but also a proven good rule to abide by in the coming year:

    Winning is not a given until you pass the finish line.
    Until then, don’t take it for granted, and don’t get cocky:

    https://twitter.com/BettyMWhite/status/1471667260116779009?s=20

    • LOL: The Ringmaster
  77. Why are we having new types of crime in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?

    The United States military has never had more firepower at its disposal nor more accurate weapons platforms for delivering deadly payloads at the point of max effect. So why do we spend half a trillion $ on defense each year?

    The answer you are fumbling for, dear boy, is buck-breaking, good old fashioned buck-breaking. This is the most enduring and (given the importance of real estate to the U.S. economy- 1/6 its total size, last time I checked) financially consequential pattern of American life. Young black males wreak havoc through their wild, totally-thoughtless and therefore totally-joyful exuberance (shaking down 7-11 cashier wallas for complimentary blunt rolls, inviting corporate raiderette joggers to impromptu 11pm Central Park fingerbangs, wringing the necks of young Mike Tyson’s pigeons before playing real-life MIKE TYSON’S PUNCHOUT on the heads of perambulating Asian grannies- any walk-up, living/breathing Nipponese Entertainment System will do). Society suffers a body blow, great cities crumble and civilization decays just a bit, but eventually technological and organizational innovation allow for a kinder, gentler form of buck-breaking to emerge, at which point a silver age of recovery and relative racial commity begins. Life is good, the old lessons are gradually forgotten, and a new generation of diverting black parasocial personalities emerge to colonize weak white minds. Until…. (superficially all of a sudden, yet in reality inexorably) whatever is the cutting-edge in current communications technology gets weaponized to thrust the peculiar essentials of our snake oil social lubricant (“They break bucks, don’t they?”) into the well-meaning, oatmeal-stuffed faces of plorable whites, at which point massive brain melt ensues, law & order is abandoned, and the bucks get to run free for the next 10-15 years.

    Mob justice is served (barbarically) in St. Louis to a black constable-killer. Ambitious SWPL Abraham Lincoln (Sundries Wessex Popery-haters Lief) exploits the incident through the amazing, unbelievably futuristic technologies of steam engine and telegraph (“The Information Super-Tradewind!”) to broadcast his Address at the Lyceum to every meltable Brahmin brain in the Union. Soon John Brown body count scorekeeping (“In this abode we believe Transcendentalism is real, that the Haitian Revolution was THE Glorious Revolution…”) becomes the hot new diversion on Beacon Hill and Atlanta and Richmond end up torched.

    Pattern repeats itself again in Scottsboro with a flash mob of young bucks caught pulling a train on the train thanks to the magic of radio (“Ether-net -2.0!”), and after Louis Till Jr. takes liberties with a married woman thanks to the in-your-face-immediacy of television. Civil Rights and criminal rights ensue, almost every great American metropolis is maimed, if not outright ruined, thanks to out-of-control street crime, filth, and urban decay, until finally enough-is-enough, one too many elderly Jews gets mugged, and with neocon intellectual air cover Rudi Giuliani rides in to save the day with broken windows policing. And if one or two brown eggs gets broken in order to make Manhattan livable again for the important people (“It’s Giuliani time!”), well, that can be tolerated- for now.

    So what’s happened since May 2020, when police took things a knee too far in Minneapolis, is American as apple pie, old as dirt. The twin technologies of ubiquitous mobile video and Black Twitter were again weaponized to melt weak white minds, undo the near-miraculous gains made in viable urban living since the New Jack City nadir of the early 90’s, and unleash the next era of gone-buck-wild exuberance. Car alarms and key fob panic buttons went from urban outfitter essentials at the premiere of SEINFELD to annoying, possibly white guilt-inducing relics upon its end. Well, in America everything new gets old and everything old gets new eventually. Welcome back to the era of parking garage rapes and carjackings and platoons of in-your-face squeegee men. Have your panic button at the ready and make sure your THE CLUB(TM) is firmly in place. OK, maybe the anti-anti-social technologies will be new and improved just as the means of being anti-social become new and improved. But the point is that it’s a stand-off, an arms race in which the only clear beneficiaries are the arms manufacturers. What good is the most advanced tracking and monitoring and surveillance technologies if the police won’t come when called, won’t chase when they arrive, DA’s don’t press charges, and a tag-team combo of vibrant and Good White jurors choose not to convict? Hold on tight. Be street aware wherever you go. And hope that the buck breaking new product development cycle has significantly shortened.

    Happy New Year!

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Abe

    Thanks, and I noted the mention of the somewhat obscure case of Francis McIntosh, a black porter who in 1836 was burned alive by a mob after stabbing two constables in St Louis, killing one and injuring the other. Charles Dickens wrote about the incident.

  78. @Jack D
    @Thomas

    Most casinos will give you your winning in a check or wire transfer if you ask them to. They prefer to give you cash because they hope you will spend it in the casino the next day so you have to ask for it to be paid that way and they may make you wait around a bit and give you a slight runaround, hoping that you will give up and take it in cash.

    Replies: @Thomas

    Good to know. I’ve never won enough nor sought to win enough in a casino to know that.

  79. There have been a few high profile follow-home robberies, at least one with a fatality, in the Philadelphia metro area in the past few months – they originated from the multiple casinos in the area which have sprung up in the last 10-15 years. As you may have guessed, the perp sees someone hit a jackpot and get hand paid (you have the option to take cash or a check, the former is literally getting $100 bills counted out on the casino floor), and then follows the winner from the casino to the winner’s home instead of making a grab in the highly secured areas of the casinos and their parking lots.

    These don’t seem to originate from the Atlantic City Casinos where a substantial percentage of players tend to stay in one or another of the casino hotels, and parking is typically by valet service or in a multiple level parking garage which makes the logistics of following someone from the floor and out of the casino to another destination much more difficult.

    In any event, these are some of the most surveilled places on Earth, so it’s not likely that there won’t be ample evidence to lead authorities right to the perpetrators in short order.

  80. @Alden
    @dearieme

    The robbers drive around expensive stores restaurants and live theater. And follow usually older people or women alone in expensive cars. If the car turns south into Culver City or Mar Vista they stop following. If the car turns north into Holmby Hills and Bel Air the robbers keep following.

    Here’s some tips. Learn where police stations near your home work where you usually shop are. Always watch for followers. If you think anyone’s following you head for the nearest police station. If you think you can make it inside park the car and run inside. If they’re too close just lean on the horn and scream. And remember this. One black man might be OK. Two black men might be OK. Three black men in a car are a robbery rape team looking for a victim,

    Mini malls are everywhere. They are as good as police stations if someone’s following you. There’s always people coming and going and you can go in a store or sit in your car to call the police. Tell the dispatcher someone is being attacked and you think the attacker has a gun. That’s the only way you’ll get a fast police response in a big city.

    When walking keep looking behind you. And never hesitate to open your mouth and scream as loudly as possible and keep it going.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer, @Dmon

    ” .. Tell the dispatcher someone is being attacked and you think the attacker has a gun. That’s the only way you’ll get a fast police response in a big city.”

    It can also get you in big trouble. I remember a case (which I wasn’t able to find) where a robbery victim falsely reported a gun was used to get a faster response, the responding police shot the unarmed perp and the victim ended up in big trouble.

    • Replies: @74v56ruthiyj
    @James B. Shearer

    That happened in Pasadena, California a few years ago.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

    , @Alden
    @James B. Shearer

    Not really the key is I think he has a gun.

  81. @Alden
    @dearieme

    The robbers drive around expensive stores restaurants and live theater. And follow usually older people or women alone in expensive cars. If the car turns south into Culver City or Mar Vista they stop following. If the car turns north into Holmby Hills and Bel Air the robbers keep following.

    Here’s some tips. Learn where police stations near your home work where you usually shop are. Always watch for followers. If you think anyone’s following you head for the nearest police station. If you think you can make it inside park the car and run inside. If they’re too close just lean on the horn and scream. And remember this. One black man might be OK. Two black men might be OK. Three black men in a car are a robbery rape team looking for a victim,

    Mini malls are everywhere. They are as good as police stations if someone’s following you. There’s always people coming and going and you can go in a store or sit in your car to call the police. Tell the dispatcher someone is being attacked and you think the attacker has a gun. That’s the only way you’ll get a fast police response in a big city.

    When walking keep looking behind you. And never hesitate to open your mouth and scream as loudly as possible and keep it going.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer, @Dmon

    “If the car turns south into Culver City or Mar Vista they stop following. ”

    So the best defense against being followed home and robbed at gunpoint by blacks is to live in an area with lots of Mexicans.

  82. @Muggles
    Legal open carry is one solution.

    Replies: @Paul Mendez, @Old Prude, @Gunsrfun

    Legal open carry is one solution.

    A bad idea.

    Open carry tells the perp two things:

    1) You’re carrying something valuable enough to be worth stealing (your gun).

    2) Any attack on you must be sudden and ferocious to succeed.

    • Agree: Old Prude
    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Paul Mendez

    Agreed. You might as well wear a "shoot me first" sandwich board sign around your neck.

    , @Old Prude
    @Paul Mendez

    I envision a slow-taunting attack. "Ooh, look at the big man with a gun. What are you going to do, shoot me?" Shove. "Come on big man". Shove, punch to the side of the head, weapon snatched.

    Yeah, yeah all the Men of Unz martial arts experts and muscle men could take down the jerk without shooting. As a small, uncoordinated fellow, I prefer to avoid the confrontation. Concealed carry for me.

    , @thenon
    @Paul Mendez

    Very true for a group of yoots who can use the "we wuz only foolin round offisuh" excuse to police who dont like armed civilians any way. Pepper spray is also illegal but much less likely to land you in prison for defending yourself. Learning to keep away from dangerous situations and people is best. The best weapon in your pocket is your lawyers phone number.

    , @Muggles
    @Paul Mendez

    While I don't want to turn this into a long thread, just a few points:

    a. My "open carry" suggestion was about stopping follow-home robberies. Those happen when you stop to get out of your car and the follow on car of thugs runs up to you. Some variation of that.

    If you are seen holding or having a firearm, my guess is that the follow home perps will decide to take on easier targets. Especially if you have it ready.

    b. Most of the critics of my idea seem to think I'm advocating this for everyday, all the time use. No, it was specifically suggested as a visible deterrent when you are already being targeted and you know it.

    c. In Texas where constitutional carry was passed last year, open carry was added precisely to avoid legal issues (encountered by License To Carry holders, concealed) when a concealed weapon somehow becomes visible by accident. That can happen. So if both concealed and open carry are both legal, no problems. In Texas you still need a LTC for certain buildings and situations.

    I am not advocating open carry as a routine matter, unless your security situation requires visible deterrence. For most, that would be rare. If you are taking your business deposits to the bank, maybe not.

    Replies: @Alden

  83. @anon
    @Jack D

    Me too. Even though I believe in cash as a sorta civil liberties/privacy issue. I have less and less that is worth the trouble to steal. Home electronics are no longer worth the trouble. Big ass/cheap flatscreens, for example. Probably only barely be sold. Apple laptops and iPhones that are trackable and brickable. No jewelry of value.
    So, I'm not highly alarmed or anything, but zero cash and I use phone rather than physical cards.

    Replies: @Paul Mendez, @Curle

    The problem with your strategy is that the perp has to hold you up or break into your house in order to learn you don’t have anything worth stealing.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Paul Mendez

    Living on the third floor of a walk up building has saved me a lot of grief.

  84. @Jack D
    @Thomas

    I think we mentioned this here before. Probably not a good idea to carry your winnings home in cash.

    Since Covid I've been using cash less and less and "tap your phone" more and more. The US is way behind on this, with lots of 3rd world places where phone transactions have replace cash even for the smallest purchases.

    Yes, "may issue" seems incompatible with modern 2nd Amendment jurisprudence but the Court did recognize that gun licensing could be subject to reasonable conditions. I think there is a middle ground where people with violent felony convictions or other black marks should not be entitled to licenses but everyone else should.

    Replies: @anon, @Abe, @Thomas, @Achmed E. Newman

    We all have permits, Jack. I don’t even need to carry mine, and it might fall apart if I did, seeing as it was written up in 1789 and signed in 1791.

    • Agree: Adam Smith
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Yah, don't ask me to bail you out when you try that sovereign citizen crap on a cop.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  85. @Paul Mendez
    @Muggles


    Legal open carry is one solution.
     
    A bad idea.

    Open carry tells the perp two things:

    1) You’re carrying something valuable enough to be worth stealing (your gun).

    2) Any attack on you must be sudden and ferocious to succeed.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Old Prude, @thenon, @Muggles

    Agreed. You might as well wear a “shoot me first” sandwich board sign around your neck.

  86. In Chicago, they wait for Chinaman to get off of casino buses to rob them.

    Kenny Chan, 62, did not have much time to figure out what he would do with the 10 grand he won early Wednesday while playing baccarat.

    Chan was on his way to his Chinatown apartment from a Hammond, Ind., casino about 2:15 a.m. Wednesday when two men — one with a gun — robbed him of more than $10,000 in cash and casino chips, according to police and his son.

    As he walked to the front door of his apartment building in the 2200 block of South Princeton Avenue, a man came up to him and attempted to put him in a headlock while rifling through his pockets.

    Chan began to struggle with the man, but seconds later a second thief ran up to him with a gun and demanded that he stop resisting, his son said. The men fled south on Princeton with Chan’s winnings from the Horseshoe Casino, police said.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/chi-after-winning-10k-at-indiana-casino-man-robbed-steps-from-chicago-home-20111207-story.html

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Joe Stalin

    Back in the day, it would have been recognized that robbing Chinese people in Chinatown was not a good idea.

    Replies: @Alden

  87. iSteve, your take on this case?

    https://www.wuwm.com/2021-12-22/theodore-edgecomb-expected-to-argue-self-defense-at-trial-over-fatal-shooting-on-milwaukees-brady-street

    Is the defendant in what appears to be road-rage escalation of an incident involving the victim in a car and the defendant on a bicycle, is this man the Black Kyle Rittenhouse?

    The grievance mongers are gathering to say, “If a white guy can get off for self defense, a black guy should too!”, leaving off until just now, the mongers were claiming the white guy getting acquitted was a grave injustice. Are they demanding, “Give us some of that injustice, too!”

    And what is a white guy doing leaving his car to confront a black guy on the streets of Milwaukee?

    Does this have the makings of a latter-day Tom Wolfe “Bonfire of the Vanities”?

    And a black guy shooting dead an immigration lawyer who is being remembered as harboring every virtuous thought expressed in a white-liberal neighborhood yard sign, is there a dark-humor mother-in-law joke in there somewhere?

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Inquiring Mind


    And a black guy shooting dead an immigration lawyer who is being remembered as harboring every virtuous thought expressed in a white-liberal neighborhood yard sign, is there a dark-humor mother-in-law joke in there somewhere?
     
    Any black on white, my default assumption: black guy is guilty.

    But when i hear "immigration lawyer" ... "justifiable homicide".
  88. NYE – Cleveland, Ohio, an off duty Cleveland Copper was shot and killed. A carjacking turned homicide. Cleveland proper is well underway of looking like an empty carcass of where civilization once existed some time ago. Carjackings are rising on an ever increasing DAILY basis.

    I don’t know about all of America, but Cleveland, Ohio is definitely one city that is completely irredeemable.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Great White

    *Ohio is completely irredeemable

    https://i.imgur.com/Z3v2jJH.jpg

    Speaking of, 2022 begins and still no commentary from Steve on my favorite Ohio criminal case.

    https://www.cincinnati.com/videos/news/crime/2018/12/18/pike-county-body-cam-footage-shows-george-billy-wagners-arrest-lexington-pd/2354286002/

    This case would seem to have it all from a Sailer/Murray perspective: Anglo-Saxon decline, legal and civil breakdown, social atomization.

  89. @JMcG
    @magilla

    Always have a gun on you when you go down range to check/hang targets too. Or better, have a buddy watch your gun while you do. And don’t talk to the guy who wants to help you convert your guns to full auto. No lie, I had this happen to me a couple months ago.

    Replies: @mc23, @Ben the Layabout

    I suppose this was always good advice but not so far in the distant pass it seemed unneeded. Public gun ranges seemed to be convivial spots where you could enjoy the company of others who enjoyed shooting.

    And this wasn’t out in the sticks but in South Eastern PA. , adjacent to Philly. The benefits of a high trust society that’s going away.

    • Agree: JMcG
    • Replies: @thenon
    @mc23

    The pair of sociopaths who ended up dead in the Miami shootout in 1986 got guns by going to isolated rural gun ranges and killing people there and stealing guns.

    Replies: @mc23, @ben tillman

  90. @Altai

    Is the rest of the country having a wave of “follow home robberies” or is this still just a Los Angeles Thing for the moment?
     
    Seems like very few places have the same situation whereby very large numbers of people like the Roses from Schitt's Creek who could be very lucrative targets are congregating and parking their cars on certain streets and places to be spotted. LA's geography too makes follow-homes a lot easier and finally, lots of mansions with lots of space between them make screams and commotion harder to hear. Ask OJ.

    NYC has the same density of rich people but they tend to live in apartments and do they congregate in the same numbers and park as obnoxiously obviously expensive cars on the street as often?

    Does anywhere else in the US have the same density of rich people?

    Why are we having new types of crime in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?
     
    During the big smash and grabs by professional gangs in NYC they raided a Rolex outlet. Every Rolex has a serial number and so the ones stolen were now tainted meaning you couldn't sell through a reputable fence because it would be no time before somebody checked the serial number on a watch if they were a serious buyer. Did the guys who did it not care that they'd lose 90% of the resale value and risking getting caught if they sold them on? Did they do it just to own their own? Were they just opportunistic and thus not thinking too deeply. Probably a little of all 3.

    Replies: @Alden, @Anonymous, @Billy Corr, @Anon7

    WHAT A LOVELY ROLEX? IS IT REAL?

    It is rumored that enterprising members of the Israeli-trained SWAT team responding to the Somali Shebab raid in the swanky de luxe shopping mall in Nairobi a few years ago took the opportunity to loot the Rolexes and other super-expensive watches, sold these to the very dodgiest Indians in the Indian commercial community and these lovely watches are now adorning brown wrists from Mumbai to Chennai, Singapore and Kuala Lumpur.

    Just a rumor, of course.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Billy Corr

    I remember the Nairobi police looted the mall as badly as the original thieves.

  91. @James B. Shearer
    @Alden

    " .. Tell the dispatcher someone is being attacked and you think the attacker has a gun. That’s the only way you’ll get a fast police response in a big city."

    It can also get you in big trouble. I remember a case (which I wasn't able to find) where a robbery victim falsely reported a gun was used to get a faster response, the responding police shot the unarmed perp and the victim ended up in big trouble.

    Replies: @74v56ruthiyj, @Alden

    That happened in Pasadena, California a few years ago.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @74v56ruthiyj

    "That happened in Pasadena, California a few years ago."

    Thanks. I was able to find a story:

    "The man who lied to Pasadena police emergency dispatchers about being robbed at gunpoint by two men last year – and which contributed to a fatal police shooting of another man – will serve three months in jail."

  92. @James B. Shearer
    @Alden

    " .. Tell the dispatcher someone is being attacked and you think the attacker has a gun. That’s the only way you’ll get a fast police response in a big city."

    It can also get you in big trouble. I remember a case (which I wasn't able to find) where a robbery victim falsely reported a gun was used to get a faster response, the responding police shot the unarmed perp and the victim ended up in big trouble.

    Replies: @74v56ruthiyj, @Alden

    Not really the key is I think he has a gun.

  93. @Billy Corr
    @Altai

    WHAT A LOVELY ROLEX? IS IT REAL?

    It is rumored that enterprising members of the Israeli-trained SWAT team responding to the Somali Shebab raid in the swanky de luxe shopping mall in Nairobi a few years ago took the opportunity to loot the Rolexes and other super-expensive watches, sold these to the very dodgiest Indians in the Indian commercial community and these lovely watches are now adorning brown wrists from Mumbai to Chennai, Singapore and Kuala Lumpur.

    Just a rumor, of course.

    Replies: @Alden

    I remember the Nairobi police looted the mall as badly as the original thieves.

  94. @Seneca44
    @R.G. Camara

    "today youngsters are emboldened by communism"

    Was having a dinner conversation with 26 and 30 yo daughters on 12/25 when both of them heavily criticized capitalism (despite them both being employed by large firms with over $100K annual salary) and espoused the virtues of communism. When I gave the examples of USSR, Cuba, Nicarague, et al followed by the old sarcastic saw that, "...they just haven't done it right yet", they both emphatically agreed.

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @Coemgen

    It is very easy – extremely easy- to lead young wannabe commies to the logical conclusion that dissenters must necessarily be dealt with. They will usually just shrug and say some version of broken eggs and omelettes.

    There is no realization at all that previous “wrong” regimes all went bad precisely because they came to the same inevitable conclusion.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  95. @74v56ruthiyj
    @James B. Shearer

    That happened in Pasadena, California a few years ago.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

    “That happened in Pasadena, California a few years ago.”

    Thanks. I was able to find a story:

    “The man who lied to Pasadena police emergency dispatchers about being robbed at gunpoint by two men last year – and which contributed to a fatal police shooting of another man – will serve three months in jail.”

  96. @Stonewall Jackson
    Kidnapping for ransome might be next in this fucked up dumpster fire of a country, brought to you by George Soros.
    Are rich folks in Cali body guarding up Sailer? I imagine little creepy Zuckerberg must have an army of private security.. Are private security firms in demand like never before there in that idiot state?

    My daughter taught for a couple of years in inner city schools in Virginia while she was getting her graduate degree... You have no idea the depth of the hideous nature of the black inner city youth until you do that... It is worse than ever. Middle school black children will intimidate and assault teachers. There is zero impulse control and the George Floyd mania has made it worse.

    That follow home thing happens in Northern VA... black thugs from PG county have followed people home from a casino across the river in Maryland.... targets have been Asians... Oh don't look for this story in the Washingon Post by the way... this is not he sort of story they cover... For those of you not from the area, PG or Prince George County is where the thugs live... it is adjacent to Southeast DC...

    Replies: @Jack D, @Buffalo Joe, @Harry Baldwin, @Ben the Layabout, @Anonymous

    I imagine little creepy Zuckerberg must have an army of private security.

    You damn betcha!

    Facebook spent more than US$23.4 million on security costs for CEO Mark Zuckerberg in 2020, according to the company’s annual executive compensation report.

    Zuckerberg receives a pre-tax annual allowance of US$10 million for his family’s security, and in 2020, Facebook spent an additional US$13.4 million on personal security for Zuckerberg “at his residences and during personal travel pursuant to Mr Zuckerberg’s overall security programme,” the filing said. In total, Facebook’s expenditure is greater than the combined cost of providing security for 10 other top tech executives, which an analysis of CEO security during the pandemic by Protocol tallied up to US$23.3 million.

    Zuck knows people hate him and he keeps giving them more and more reasons to do so. He’s all-in on Soros DA’s and deincarceration.

    Mark Zuckerberg, the CEO of Facebook, has plowed a ton of cash into various pro-crime bids through the Chan-Zuckerberg Initiative with $350 million going to the Justice Accelerator Fund.

    Accelerating justice and freeing criminals is a process that starts far from the Zuckerberg manor.

    The Zuckerberg estate in Dolores Park is protected by a 15-man security team who helped turn the area into what neighbors described as “nothing short of a fortress.”

  97. @Ralph L
    I thought the SoCal rich lived in gated communities, or is that just the upper middle?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    I thought the SoCal rich lived in gated communities

    If you’re following someone, after they punch in the code to open the gate you can usually slip in behind them.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Harry Baldwin


    If you’re following someone, after they punch in the code to open the gate you can usually slip in behind them.
     
    As the decline continues, high end communities/buildings will have to move to two gates with a sort of "crimelock"--accommodating only one vehicle--in-between.

    Replies: @Curle

  98. @Abe

    Why are we having new types of crime in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?
     
    The United States military has never had more firepower at its disposal nor more accurate weapons platforms for delivering deadly payloads at the point of max effect. So why do we spend half a trillion $ on defense each year?

    The answer you are fumbling for, dear boy, is buck-breaking, good old fashioned buck-breaking. This is the most enduring and (given the importance of real estate to the U.S. economy- 1/6 its total size, last time I checked) financially consequential pattern of American life. Young black males wreak havoc through their wild, totally-thoughtless and therefore totally-joyful exuberance (shaking down 7-11 cashier wallas for complimentary blunt rolls, inviting corporate raiderette joggers to impromptu 11pm Central Park fingerbangs, wringing the necks of young Mike Tyson’s pigeons before playing real-life MIKE TYSON’S PUNCHOUT on the heads of perambulating Asian grannies- any walk-up, living/breathing Nipponese Entertainment System will do). Society suffers a body blow, great cities crumble and civilization decays just a bit, but eventually technological and organizational innovation allow for a kinder, gentler form of buck-breaking to emerge, at which point a silver age of recovery and relative racial commity begins. Life is good, the old lessons are gradually forgotten, and a new generation of diverting black parasocial personalities emerge to colonize weak white minds. Until.... (superficially all of a sudden, yet in reality inexorably) whatever is the cutting-edge in current communications technology gets weaponized to thrust the peculiar essentials of our snake oil social lubricant (“They break bucks, don’t they?”) into the well-meaning, oatmeal-stuffed faces of plorable whites, at which point massive brain melt ensues, law & order is abandoned, and the bucks get to run free for the next 10-15 years.

    Mob justice is served (barbarically) in St. Louis to a black constable-killer. Ambitious SWPL Abraham Lincoln (Sundries Wessex Popery-haters Lief) exploits the incident through the amazing, unbelievably futuristic technologies of steam engine and telegraph (“The Information Super-Tradewind!”) to broadcast his Address at the Lyceum to every meltable Brahmin brain in the Union. Soon John Brown body count scorekeeping (“In this abode we believe Transcendentalism is real, that the Haitian Revolution was THE Glorious Revolution...”) becomes the hot new diversion on Beacon Hill and Atlanta and Richmond end up torched.

    Pattern repeats itself again in Scottsboro with a flash mob of young bucks caught pulling a train on the train thanks to the magic of radio (“Ether-net -2.0!”), and after Louis Till Jr. takes liberties with a married woman thanks to the in-your-face-immediacy of television. Civil Rights and criminal rights ensue, almost every great American metropolis is maimed, if not outright ruined, thanks to out-of-control street crime, filth, and urban decay, until finally enough-is-enough, one too many elderly Jews gets mugged, and with neocon intellectual air cover Rudi Giuliani rides in to save the day with broken windows policing. And if one or two brown eggs gets broken in order to make Manhattan livable again for the important people (“It’s Giuliani time!”), well, that can be tolerated- for now.

    So what’s happened since May 2020, when police took things a knee too far in Minneapolis, is American as apple pie, old as dirt. The twin technologies of ubiquitous mobile video and Black Twitter were again weaponized to melt weak white minds, undo the near-miraculous gains made in viable urban living since the New Jack City nadir of the early 90’s, and unleash the next era of gone-buck-wild exuberance. Car alarms and key fob panic buttons went from urban outfitter essentials at the premiere of SEINFELD to annoying, possibly white guilt-inducing relics upon its end. Well, in America everything new gets old and everything old gets new eventually. Welcome back to the era of parking garage rapes and carjackings and platoons of in-your-face squeegee men. Have your panic button at the ready and make sure your THE CLUB(TM) is firmly in place. OK, maybe the anti-anti-social technologies will be new and improved just as the means of being anti-social become new and improved. But the point is that it’s a stand-off, an arms race in which the only clear beneficiaries are the arms manufacturers. What good is the most advanced tracking and monitoring and surveillance technologies if the police won’t come when called, won’t chase when they arrive, DA’s don’t press charges, and a tag-team combo of vibrant and Good White jurors choose not to convict? Hold on tight. Be street aware wherever you go. And hope that the buck breaking new product development cycle has significantly shortened.

    Happy New Year!

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Thanks, and I noted the mention of the somewhat obscure case of Francis McIntosh, a black porter who in 1836 was burned alive by a mob after stabbing two constables in St Louis, killing one and injuring the other. Charles Dickens wrote about the incident.

  99. @magilla
    It's been a thing in Latin America for years, many times the bank employees are part of the scheme.

    Also common in Houston, where it's called jugging. There was a case there in the summer where a man and his wife were followed more than 30 miles from a high-end restaurant back to their gated community.

    It has also been reported to happen to people leaving shooting ranges. If you shoot, and given where we're headed you should, always check for people following you when you leave. Always save enough ammo for your carry piece(s), and be very careful about stopping on the way home.

    Replies: @JMcG, @The Ringmaster, @Curle

    Jogging?

  100. @Muggles
    Legal open carry is one solution.

    Replies: @Paul Mendez, @Old Prude, @Gunsrfun

    Open carry is a bad idea; Someone bigger than you gets an idea to bully you to get your gun, what are you going to do? Cops have open carry and how many times to jacked-up blacks try to get the weapon? There are too many joggers and dingers and a-holes in the world for one to be parading around with a visible firearm and no badge.

    If the gun is under your shirt or in your jacket it is not an open provocation, but serves its purpose just as well as an open carried weapon.

    And even if you live amongst the Quakers, walking around with a firearm strapped to your belt or slung over your shoulder is anti-social behavior. Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.

  101. @Seneca44
    @R.G. Camara

    "today youngsters are emboldened by communism"

    Was having a dinner conversation with 26 and 30 yo daughters on 12/25 when both of them heavily criticized capitalism (despite them both being employed by large firms with over $100K annual salary) and espoused the virtues of communism. When I gave the examples of USSR, Cuba, Nicarague, et al followed by the old sarcastic saw that, "...they just haven't done it right yet", they both emphatically agreed.

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @Coemgen

    The word, Capitalism, does sound scary. It’s better to call the system by the descriptive Free Market (decentralized control of the economy and people).

    Communism is a euphemism for totalitarianism (centralized control of the economy and people).

    So, which do people prefer: the Free Market or Totalitarianism?

    Steve Sailer occasionally makes reference to the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis. Sapir-Whorf is a concept worth keeping in mind.

    Oh yeah, in case Socialism replaces Communism in your discussions: Socialism is the milder form of totalitarianism.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Coemgen

    Oh yeah, in case Socialism replaces Communism in your discussions: Socialism is the milder form of totalitarianism.

    Most communist countries refer to themselves as socialist, as in Union of Socialist Soviet Republics. Either that, or Democratic Republics, as in North Korea or East Germany.

    Communism is socialism with machine guns.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  102. @Paul Mendez
    @Muggles


    Legal open carry is one solution.
     
    A bad idea.

    Open carry tells the perp two things:

    1) You’re carrying something valuable enough to be worth stealing (your gun).

    2) Any attack on you must be sudden and ferocious to succeed.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Old Prude, @thenon, @Muggles

    I envision a slow-taunting attack. “Ooh, look at the big man with a gun. What are you going to do, shoot me?” Shove. “Come on big man”. Shove, punch to the side of the head, weapon snatched.

    Yeah, yeah all the Men of Unz martial arts experts and muscle men could take down the jerk without shooting. As a small, uncoordinated fellow, I prefer to avoid the confrontation. Concealed carry for me.

  103. @Paul Mendez
    @Muggles


    Legal open carry is one solution.
     
    A bad idea.

    Open carry tells the perp two things:

    1) You’re carrying something valuable enough to be worth stealing (your gun).

    2) Any attack on you must be sudden and ferocious to succeed.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Old Prude, @thenon, @Muggles

    Very true for a group of yoots who can use the “we wuz only foolin round offisuh” excuse to police who dont like armed civilians any way. Pepper spray is also illegal but much less likely to land you in prison for defending yourself. Learning to keep away from dangerous situations and people is best. The best weapon in your pocket is your lawyers phone number.

    • Agree: Alden
  104. @mc23
    @JMcG

    I suppose this was always good advice but not so far in the distant pass it seemed unneeded. Public gun ranges seemed to be convivial spots where you could enjoy the company of others who enjoyed shooting.

    And this wasn’t out in the sticks but in South Eastern PA. , adjacent to Philly. The benefits of a high trust society that’s going away.

    Replies: @thenon

    The pair of sociopaths who ended up dead in the Miami shootout in 1986 got guns by going to isolated rural gun ranges and killing people there and stealing guns.

    • Replies: @mc23
    @thenon

    Like I said it was alway's good advice but I don't think I am being subjective when I say it's different now and not better.

    First rule of a gun fight-

    1. Bring a gun. Preferably, bring at least two guns. Bring all of your friends who have guns. Bring their friends who have guns.

    , @ben tillman
    @thenon

    Whose guns did they use to kill the gun range patrons? Why didn't they use those presumably untraceable guns for the later crimes?

    Replies: @JMcG

  105. @Paul Mendez
    @anon

    The problem with your strategy is that the perp has to hold you up or break into your house in order to learn you don’t have anything worth stealing.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Living on the third floor of a walk up building has saved me a lot of grief.

  106. @Joe Stalin
    In Chicago, they wait for Chinaman to get off of casino buses to rob them.

    Kenny Chan, 62, did not have much time to figure out what he would do with the 10 grand he won early Wednesday while playing baccarat.

    Chan was on his way to his Chinatown apartment from a Hammond, Ind., casino about 2:15 a.m. Wednesday when two men — one with a gun — robbed him of more than $10,000 in cash and casino chips, according to police and his son.

    As he walked to the front door of his apartment building in the 2200 block of South Princeton Avenue, a man came up to him and attempted to put him in a headlock while rifling through his pockets.

    Chan began to struggle with the man, but seconds later a second thief ran up to him with a gun and demanded that he stop resisting, his son said. The men fled south on Princeton with Chan's winnings from the Horseshoe Casino, police said.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/chi-after-winning-10k-at-indiana-casino-man-robbed-steps-from-chicago-home-20111207-story.html

     

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Back in the day, it would have been recognized that robbing Chinese people in Chinatown was not a good idea.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Hibernian

    Nowadays Asians live all over cities and the suburbs. And often have businesses all over town and in the suburbs. And work at jobs all over town and in the suburbs.

    So they’re not in a ghetto with its own formal or informal security.

    Replies: @Hibernian

  107. @Stonewall Jackson
    Kidnapping for ransome might be next in this fucked up dumpster fire of a country, brought to you by George Soros.
    Are rich folks in Cali body guarding up Sailer? I imagine little creepy Zuckerberg must have an army of private security.. Are private security firms in demand like never before there in that idiot state?

    My daughter taught for a couple of years in inner city schools in Virginia while she was getting her graduate degree... You have no idea the depth of the hideous nature of the black inner city youth until you do that... It is worse than ever. Middle school black children will intimidate and assault teachers. There is zero impulse control and the George Floyd mania has made it worse.

    That follow home thing happens in Northern VA... black thugs from PG county have followed people home from a casino across the river in Maryland.... targets have been Asians... Oh don't look for this story in the Washingon Post by the way... this is not he sort of story they cover... For those of you not from the area, PG or Prince George County is where the thugs live... it is adjacent to Southeast DC...

    Replies: @Jack D, @Buffalo Joe, @Harry Baldwin, @Ben the Layabout, @Anonymous

    Your words still echo a fondness of a Fairfax County (majority white leafy suburbs) long gone. NoVA has established plenty of colonies of filth of its own, even if still not to the worst of PG or DC. Ironically, Washington itself has gentrified in a few decades; the black population dropped to about 50% from much higher. This probably reflects the expensive real estate. If your rent or home is going to cost the moon, you might as well trade a two-hour each way commute for a slightly higher crime rate and live in the city. Always left unasked is “Where did all the poor Blacks move to?” Perhaps other hellholes: Baltimore is only 30 minutes north. But some of them moved into the suburbs, ah that wonderful Section 8!

    I suspect America’s future (for the wealthy or even upper-middle class) will tend more to what Latin America and many other parts of the world have always endured. The wealthy live in walled compounds guarded round-the-clock by private security with firearms. Trips out into the world are only when necessary, and typically will have at minimum a bodyguard or perhaps several in one or more support vehicles.

    It’s a pity to say so, but long ago America was unusual in that for the most part, it successfully kept the violent and criminal in prison or at least policed away from respectable areas. But we are returning to the default of the world, where the predator runs free and the sheep must be penned in for their own safety.

    • Replies: @Stonewall Jackson
    @Ben the Layabout

    Ben--- You raise a very good question. Where did all the blacks go? That can be said apparently for many places across the country. California for instance. Is it the huge abortion rates?

    Replies: @74v56ruthiyj, @Alden

  108. @HallParvey
    @Almost Missouri


    crime does pay
     
    Crime is Big Business. Lawyers, Judges, Investigators, both Chief and otherwise. Criminal recycling is the in thing because there simply are not enough criminals to go around.

    Think about a pyramid. At the bottom are the victims. Above them are the criminals. Above them are the policemen. Above them are the Investigators. Above them are the Chiefs of Police. Then there are the Mayors and other civilians. Then the criminal justice system with its layers of lawyers.

    Then, continuing the pyramid are the legislators who make the laws. The Universities with their various Lawyer production facilities. Then the incarceration facilities. None of this would be necessary if it weren't for crime. Jobs for the boys.

    I'm sure I missed a few but it's obvious that crime really is big business. On a par with the Military Industrial Complex or the Medical Industrial Complex.

    And this is why we will have crime with us always, in spite of the ability to eliminate it with modern equipment. Next time you drive through a Latin neighborhood, notice the number of homes with barred windows. It's almost a characteristic, like roof tiles.

    Replies: @Ben the Layabout

    The comment on barred windows in Latino communities is true. However, there is an historical context. This goes back many centuries, to the old country and (I believe) even to the Romans. If you’ve traveled widely, as I have (also I’ve studied Spanish language & culture although I’m an Anglo) you would note that decorative wrought iron work or its equivalent is found in many nations, cities, small towns and villages. I’m not denying that property crime is non-existent. Of course not. I’ve seen plenty of barbed wire around homes, dogs on roofs and the occasional armed guard, during my travels. My point is that bars, gratings and other window and door coverings exist for reasons beyond mere physical security.

    • LOL: AceDeuce
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Ben the Layabout

    In the Latino area of Philadephia it is quite common to see front porches completely enclosed in iron bars. These are variously known as a balcon, a galeria, a cobertizo or rejas (it's quite common for the same thing to have different names in different Spanish speaking countries, ala lift/elevator).

    https://www.inquirer.com/resizer/t6i3hlCh31ZAvlsJRWaEWP2a2Hg=/800x533/smart/filters:format(webp)/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-pmn.s3.amazonaws.com/public/RJEU4PMOMJCK3DR5TDLH7WUTNI.jpg

    It's true that these are something like what they had back home, but that's because back home is also crime ridden and people there need to live with barred windows. So if it was just "culture" it was a shitty culture.

    American towns took pride in the fact that yards were open to the street with only a short picket fence or often no fence separating you from the street. There was often a front porch and you would (in pre-radio, pre-AC days, sit out there and greet your passing neighbors. Because they were your fellow citizens and you were not afraid that they were going to hit you upside the head and steal your stuff. People didn't even lock the doors to their house.

    It's true that Roman houses were sort of inside out compared to modern houses - instead of a front yard and a back yard you'd have a center courtyard where most household activities took place in the mild Mediterranean climate and the walls facing the street would be mostly blank. And this pattern persisted in many Latin countries. But Romans didn't put broken glass and barbed wire on top of their walls - that comes with modern Latin American crime.

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Alden

  109. @JMcG
    @magilla

    Always have a gun on you when you go down range to check/hang targets too. Or better, have a buddy watch your gun while you do. And don’t talk to the guy who wants to help you convert your guns to full auto. No lie, I had this happen to me a couple months ago.

    Replies: @mc23, @Ben the Layabout

    Nonsense. I met a guy last month who says he can get me a good deal on some full auto military surplus M16s. 🤣


  110. [MORE]

    December 8, 2021:

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @MEH 0910


    Trends mean little to those experiencing the worst sorts of crime, or the worst abuses of the justice system.

    Let's just be intellectually honest, as best we can, about it all.
     

    I don't think this is doing the best you can, Kevin:

    As I reported in October, LAPD detectives charged with solving these killings see many underlying causes - including a proliferation of guns ...
     
    Try harder to be intellectually honest, Kevin Rector.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @Curle
    @MEH 0910

    ‘Gun’ violence. As in a gun was walking down the street found a victim and shot them. Well, arrest that gun, try them and put that gun in jail!

    Hispanic and black victims but gun perpetrators. Do police have ideas about when a gun is going to find a person to shoot?

    , @ic1000
    @MEH 0910

    On Twitter, Mickey Kaus highlights an item mentioned by MEH 0910 as the LA Times' recent submission to the ongoing iSteve Upside-Down Newspaper Story Competition.
    https://twitter.com/kausmickey/status/1477527311494758400

    The lede:


    On Black Friday, a man and two women walked into an upscale consignment shop on Melrose Avenue. The women started shoving pairs of shoes into their bags and walked out, alarms blaring.
     
    Paragraph 4:

    A series of high-profile crimes in upscale parts of Los Angeles — the so-called smash-and-grab and follow-home robbery — have gotten widespread attention in recent months. Police have deployed officers to malls and shopping corridors such as Rodeo Drive and Melrose Avenue. Right-wing media have seized on the robberies as proof that crime in California is out of control.
     
    Paragraphs 5 to 23: These so-called thieves are the real victims.

    Paragraphs 24 to 28: The police arrested two Romani women, who declined to comment.

    Paragraphs 29 to 36: Okay, so there is some crime in wealthy Hollywood, but other neighborhoods have it worse.

    Paragraphs 37 to 44: The headline was "Smash-and-grabs and follow-home robberies captivated L.A. The real story was complicated," and you're still reading? Nothing better to do? Okay, here's something about follow-home robberies.

    Paragraph 45 to the conclusion:


    Tyrique Shawndell Wise, 20, is a “well-known member” of the Bounty Hunters, a gang based in the Nickerson Gardens housing projects... Wise was first arrested at 13 and convicted of carrying a gun and ammunition as a minor, the report says. He was convicted at 15 of stealing a car and sent to a California Youth Authority facility in Stockton for 84 months, the report says. He was discharged on Nov. 17, 2020.

    Standing in the doorway of her home in Watts, Wise’s mother, Tyhisha Griggs, said the police have long assumed that her son is a gang member. When he was 11, a police officer stopped him while he was riding a dirt bike in the neighborhood and asked if he was a member of the Bounty Hunters, she said. “That’s been with him ever since.”

    Her son could not help growing up in a neighborhood or having relatives associated with the gang, she said. “If it’s a family member, it’s what it is — but some of us are honest, working people,” said Griggs, a school bus driver.

    Authorities say Wise was part of a group that committed the first in what would be a string of robberies at 11:30 p.m. on a Friday in May. A couple had driven home from a restaurant. As they waited for their garage door to open, two cars pulled up behind them, blocking their exit. At gunpoint, the couple handed over a Rolex, a Chanel wallet and a Louis Vuitton purse, according to the probation report.

    At 3 p.m. the next day, the report says, Wise and two companions pointed guns at a man standing on a sidewalk and shouted: “Give me all your s—. Give me everything!” They made off with a gold necklace valued at $80,000 and $12,000 in cash... Over the next six months, Wise and the others in his group... robbed another six people and tried to rob three more, prosecutors charge. In all, they took more than $500,000 worth of watches, jewelry, cash and other property, a detective told the probation officer who wrote the report...

    Jenkins, authorities say, was Wise’s final target. When the former television host saw men approaching his car with guns, he reversed out of his driveway and took off, the probation report says.

    Wise and his companions gave chase, according to the report. Someone in their car fired shots at Jenkins, but neither he nor his friend was hit, the document says.

    At 2 that morning, LAPD officers in a marked patrol car tried to pull over Wise. He led them on a pursuit, driving “erratically” and at “high rates of speed,” the report says...

    Wise has pleaded not guilty to 17 counts of robbery, attempted robbery, assault, shooting into an occupied car, evading the police, possessing a gun with juvenile priors, and the attempted murders of Jenkins and his friend.
     

    Heckuva job, cub reporters Matthew Ormseth and Brittny Mejia!

    Replies: @Jack D

  111. @Altai

    Is the rest of the country having a wave of “follow home robberies” or is this still just a Los Angeles Thing for the moment?
     
    Seems like very few places have the same situation whereby very large numbers of people like the Roses from Schitt's Creek who could be very lucrative targets are congregating and parking their cars on certain streets and places to be spotted. LA's geography too makes follow-homes a lot easier and finally, lots of mansions with lots of space between them make screams and commotion harder to hear. Ask OJ.

    NYC has the same density of rich people but they tend to live in apartments and do they congregate in the same numbers and park as obnoxiously obviously expensive cars on the street as often?

    Does anywhere else in the US have the same density of rich people?

    Why are we having new types of crime in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?
     
    During the big smash and grabs by professional gangs in NYC they raided a Rolex outlet. Every Rolex has a serial number and so the ones stolen were now tainted meaning you couldn't sell through a reputable fence because it would be no time before somebody checked the serial number on a watch if they were a serious buyer. Did the guys who did it not care that they'd lose 90% of the resale value and risking getting caught if they sold them on? Did they do it just to own their own? Were they just opportunistic and thus not thinking too deeply. Probably a little of all 3.

    Replies: @Alden, @Anonymous, @Billy Corr, @Anon7

    “NYC has the same density of rich people but they tend to live in apartments and do they congregate in the same numbers and park as obnoxiously obviously expensive cars on the street as often?”

    Follow-home crime is not just about rich people. My wife was able to convince her mother to leave NYC when one of her mother’s best friends was brutally murdered as she unlocked and entered her modest rent-controlled apartment with an armload of groceries.

    The animals were never caught; and yes, her apartment where she had lived for fifty years was just a couple of blocks from Harlem. Neighborhoods change.

  112. @Muggles
    Legal open carry is one solution.

    Replies: @Paul Mendez, @Old Prude, @Gunsrfun

    Open carry eliminates the surprise factor. Also if you are not super vigilant the gun can be taken from you by someone who has their gun in hand, quick draw is not very effective with a gun in your face.
    I do like your thought process. I have taken to carting two side arms in my daily travels around town and I add an AR pistol to my truck when out of town . I keep it easy to access without moving from the driver seat , five inch barrel and a shake awake reddot site that co witness with open iron sites . 30 rounds of 5.56x 45 will discourage most if not all local thugs.

  113. @anon
    @Jack D

    Me too. Even though I believe in cash as a sorta civil liberties/privacy issue. I have less and less that is worth the trouble to steal. Home electronics are no longer worth the trouble. Big ass/cheap flatscreens, for example. Probably only barely be sold. Apple laptops and iPhones that are trackable and brickable. No jewelry of value.
    So, I'm not highly alarmed or anything, but zero cash and I use phone rather than physical cards.

    Replies: @Paul Mendez, @Curle

    You make good arguments, but I’ve gone the opposite direction, refusing to even use online banking. My concern is that ACH standards being as loose as I perceive them to be seems to put all responsibility for fraud on the account holder as opposed to the bank. Lots of criminals are unwilling to create anything but minimally plausible looking fake checks that can be easily refuted if accepted my merchants/banks. With ACH, who knows? By refusing to go ACH with transactions banks have limited things they can force you to prove to get your money back.

    Tell me why I’m wrong.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Curle

    ACH isn't secure for transactions between strangers. So, sure, you aren't wrong. My comment was more to the effect that I consider myself typical in the sense that I have less that is worthwhile to steal, although my financial position has improved. So, robbery and theft are likely to become less of an opportunity.
    As far as electronic theft, mostly that is on the intermediary. Visa, MasterCard, etc. And the underclass isn't up to the skill set needed to pull it off.
    The downside is that technology has, for example, eliminated simple hot wiring a car and left only the dangerous practice of carjacking for the common thief.
    I'm fine with ACH to. pay my utility bills, but you are right that it isn't secure.

  114. @Alden
    @kaganovitch

    Jews serve on juries. Prosecutors try to keep black criminal loving liberals and Jews off juries.

    Unless the prosecutor has an obvious Jewish name, looks and is a good enough actor to use stereotypical Jewish mannerisms. Then the Jews, especially the old ones will vote for the prosecution.

    I know a prosecutor who had the highest win record in his ultra liberal county. Jewish name, looks and did a great Woody Allen impersonation. Always made sure he got a Jew or two on the jury and always won.

    Replies: @Curle

    Is there really an conviction imbalance between Jewish and Gentile deputy prosecutors in places like New York? I suppose if there’s an Jewish defendant but also where there’s only an black defendant and the defense attorney isn’t Jewish?

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Curle

    All I know is that Jews and other liberals in San Francisco tend to acquit blacks because they are poor slavery etc. And one of the best (most wins) prosecutors when I was there was a Jew. He always tried to get one or more older Jews on his juries because of ethnic solidarity. It worked. He also had a great win record with juries with no Jews. But he always tried to get an older Jew on the jury if possible.

  115. @magilla
    It's been a thing in Latin America for years, many times the bank employees are part of the scheme.

    Also common in Houston, where it's called jugging. There was a case there in the summer where a man and his wife were followed more than 30 miles from a high-end restaurant back to their gated community.

    It has also been reported to happen to people leaving shooting ranges. If you shoot, and given where we're headed you should, always check for people following you when you leave. Always save enough ammo for your carry piece(s), and be very careful about stopping on the way home.

    Replies: @JMcG, @The Ringmaster, @Curle

    What value is information from bank employees providing? Plenty of people have lots of bank money but little in terms of home valuables. I suppose the odds of the latter increase with the former . . . still. They could steal blank checks I guess.

    • Replies: @magilla
    @Curle

    "An Asian couple comes in every Thursday between 10 and 11 and takes out a ton of cash. They drive a 2019 BMW. Wait in the parking lot and I'll tell you when they leave". Very common in Latin America both in banks and places where you can get money wired from outside the country.

    , @JR Ewing
    @Curle


    What value is information from bank employees providing?
     
    In a word, CASH.

    If someone is regularly making large cash transactions at the bank, either bringing it in or taking it out, the teller just has to tell the bad guys who and when and how often and the bad guys can probably figure out the rest.

  116. @Inquiring Mind
    iSteve, your take on this case?

    https://www.wuwm.com/2021-12-22/theodore-edgecomb-expected-to-argue-self-defense-at-trial-over-fatal-shooting-on-milwaukees-brady-street

    Is the defendant in what appears to be road-rage escalation of an incident involving the victim in a car and the defendant on a bicycle, is this man the Black Kyle Rittenhouse?

    The grievance mongers are gathering to say, "If a white guy can get off for self defense, a black guy should too!", leaving off until just now, the mongers were claiming the white guy getting acquitted was a grave injustice. Are they demanding, "Give us some of that injustice, too!"

    And what is a white guy doing leaving his car to confront a black guy on the streets of Milwaukee?

    Does this have the makings of a latter-day Tom Wolfe "Bonfire of the Vanities"?

    And a black guy shooting dead an immigration lawyer who is being remembered as harboring every virtuous thought expressed in a white-liberal neighborhood yard sign, is there a dark-humor mother-in-law joke in there somewhere?

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    And a black guy shooting dead an immigration lawyer who is being remembered as harboring every virtuous thought expressed in a white-liberal neighborhood yard sign, is there a dark-humor mother-in-law joke in there somewhere?

    Any black on white, my default assumption: black guy is guilty.

    But when i hear “immigration lawyer” … “justifiable homicide”.

  117. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack D

    We all have permits, Jack. I don't even need to carry mine, and it might fall apart if I did, seeing as it was written up in 1789 and signed in 1791.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Yah, don’t ask me to bail you out when you try that sovereign citizen crap on a cop.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack D

    Don't sweat it, Jack. That's a wife's job.

  118. @Harry Baldwin
    @Ralph L

    I thought the SoCal rich lived in gated communities

    If you're following someone, after they punch in the code to open the gate you can usually slip in behind them.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    If you’re following someone, after they punch in the code to open the gate you can usually slip in behind them.

    As the decline continues, high end communities/buildings will have to move to two gates with a sort of “crimelock”–accommodating only one vehicle–in-between.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @AnotherDad

    As the decline continues more communities will be asking cities to dedicate the public streets back to HOAs so they can be gated. The only problem I sense from the car lock solution is emergency vehicles like fire trucks.

    Replies: @Jack D

  119. @Curle
    @magilla

    What value is information from bank employees providing? Plenty of people have lots of bank money but little in terms of home valuables. I suppose the odds of the latter increase with the former . . . still. They could steal blank checks I guess.

    Replies: @magilla, @JR Ewing

    “An Asian couple comes in every Thursday between 10 and 11 and takes out a ton of cash. They drive a 2019 BMW. Wait in the parking lot and I’ll tell you when they leave”. Very common in Latin America both in banks and places where you can get money wired from outside the country.

  120. anon[885] • Disclaimer says:
    @Curle
    @anon

    You make good arguments, but I’ve gone the opposite direction, refusing to even use online banking. My concern is that ACH standards being as loose as I perceive them to be seems to put all responsibility for fraud on the account holder as opposed to the bank. Lots of criminals are unwilling to create anything but minimally plausible looking fake checks that can be easily refuted if accepted my merchants/banks. With ACH, who knows? By refusing to go ACH with transactions banks have limited things they can force you to prove to get your money back.

    Tell me why I’m wrong.

    Replies: @anon

    ACH isn’t secure for transactions between strangers. So, sure, you aren’t wrong. My comment was more to the effect that I consider myself typical in the sense that I have less that is worthwhile to steal, although my financial position has improved. So, robbery and theft are likely to become less of an opportunity.
    As far as electronic theft, mostly that is on the intermediary. Visa, MasterCard, etc. And the underclass isn’t up to the skill set needed to pull it off.
    The downside is that technology has, for example, eliminated simple hot wiring a car and left only the dangerous practice of carjacking for the common thief.
    I’m fine with ACH to. pay my utility bills, but you are right that it isn’t secure.

  121. @Ben the Layabout
    @HallParvey

    The comment on barred windows in Latino communities is true. However, there is an historical context. This goes back many centuries, to the old country and (I believe) even to the Romans. If you've traveled widely, as I have (also I've studied Spanish language & culture although I'm an Anglo) you would note that decorative wrought iron work or its equivalent is found in many nations, cities, small towns and villages. I'm not denying that property crime is non-existent. Of course not. I've seen plenty of barbed wire around homes, dogs on roofs and the occasional armed guard, during my travels. My point is that bars, gratings and other window and door coverings exist for reasons beyond mere physical security.

    Replies: @Jack D

    In the Latino area of Philadephia it is quite common to see front porches completely enclosed in iron bars. These are variously known as a balcon, a galeria, a cobertizo or rejas (it’s quite common for the same thing to have different names in different Spanish speaking countries, ala lift/elevator).

    It’s true that these are something like what they had back home, but that’s because back home is also crime ridden and people there need to live with barred windows. So if it was just “culture” it was a shitty culture.

    American towns took pride in the fact that yards were open to the street with only a short picket fence or often no fence separating you from the street. There was often a front porch and you would (in pre-radio, pre-AC days, sit out there and greet your passing neighbors. Because they were your fellow citizens and you were not afraid that they were going to hit you upside the head and steal your stuff. People didn’t even lock the doors to their house.

    It’s true that Roman houses were sort of inside out compared to modern houses – instead of a front yard and a back yard you’d have a center courtyard where most household activities took place in the mild Mediterranean climate and the walls facing the street would be mostly blank. And this pattern persisted in many Latin countries. But Romans didn’t put broken glass and barbed wire on top of their walls – that comes with modern Latin American crime.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Jack D


    American towns took pride in the fact that yards were open to the street with only a short picket fence or often no fence separating you from the street.
     
    If you go to the "flats" of Beverly Hills, the mansions are just as you describe. Many of the old stars lived on streets where you could just walk up to their front door. On Roxbury, Jimmy Stewart's place was like that. Across a side street (Lexington?) his closest neighbor to the north was Lucille Ball. Jack Benny and Peter Falk were right by there. Rosemary Clooney lived across the street, in a house that I think had been owned by Geoege Gershwin.

    All of their homes were ungated, and accessible from the sidewalk.
    , @Alden
    @Jack D

    At one time it was common all over America to build apartment buildings in a U shape 3 sides and the front lawn or court yard open to the street. There’s a popular 1950s style apartment building 2 stories 6 or 8 apartments no front door. All the apartment doors facing an open patio along the side.

    6 foot metal fences and locked gates have now been installed for most of those buildings. Used to be bars were a signal to not buy, rent or open a business in the neighborhood. Now they’re common everywhere. At least they are attractive. When the chain link fence and razor wire arrive it’s time to get out.

    Black south central Los Angeles used to have those barred enclosures covering the porch and front and back doors. Like those enclosures between the two doors into a downtown jewelry store

    A lot of people don’t like row houses but they are safer than single family and many apartments . No access from the back or side just the front. So bar the front.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  122. @Paul Mendez
    @Muggles


    Legal open carry is one solution.
     
    A bad idea.

    Open carry tells the perp two things:

    1) You’re carrying something valuable enough to be worth stealing (your gun).

    2) Any attack on you must be sudden and ferocious to succeed.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Old Prude, @thenon, @Muggles

    While I don’t want to turn this into a long thread, just a few points:

    a. My “open carry” suggestion was about stopping follow-home robberies. Those happen when you stop to get out of your car and the follow on car of thugs runs up to you. Some variation of that.

    If you are seen holding or having a firearm, my guess is that the follow home perps will decide to take on easier targets. Especially if you have it ready.

    b. Most of the critics of my idea seem to think I’m advocating this for everyday, all the time use. No, it was specifically suggested as a visible deterrent when you are already being targeted and you know it.

    c. In Texas where constitutional carry was passed last year, open carry was added precisely to avoid legal issues (encountered by License To Carry holders, concealed) when a concealed weapon somehow becomes visible by accident. That can happen. So if both concealed and open carry are both legal, no problems. In Texas you still need a LTC for certain buildings and situations.

    I am not advocating open carry as a routine matter, unless your security situation requires visible deterrence. For most, that would be rare. If you are taking your business deposits to the bank, maybe not.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Muggles

    Not a bad idea. My plan if I’m followed home is to stop in front of the neighborhood police station and run inside if they’re far away enough. Or look up that police station number and call that number tell them there’s a potential car jacking crime in progress right outside.

    I’ve always checked the location of the nearest police station everywhere I’ve lived worked and frequently shopped.

  123. @Great White
    NYE - Cleveland, Ohio, an off duty Cleveland Copper was shot and killed. A carjacking turned homicide. Cleveland proper is well underway of looking like an empty carcass of where civilization once existed some time ago. Carjackings are rising on an ever increasing DAILY basis.

    I don’t know about all of America, but Cleveland, Ohio is definitely one city that is completely irredeemable.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    *Ohio is completely irredeemable

    Speaking of, 2022 begins and still no commentary from Steve on my favorite Ohio criminal case.

    https://www.cincinnati.com/videos/news/crime/2018/12/18/pike-county-body-cam-footage-shows-george-billy-wagners-arrest-lexington-pd/2354286002/

    This case would seem to have it all from a Sailer/Murray perspective: Anglo-Saxon decline, legal and civil breakdown, social atomization.

  124. @Jack D
    @Ben the Layabout

    In the Latino area of Philadephia it is quite common to see front porches completely enclosed in iron bars. These are variously known as a balcon, a galeria, a cobertizo or rejas (it's quite common for the same thing to have different names in different Spanish speaking countries, ala lift/elevator).

    https://www.inquirer.com/resizer/t6i3hlCh31ZAvlsJRWaEWP2a2Hg=/800x533/smart/filters:format(webp)/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-pmn.s3.amazonaws.com/public/RJEU4PMOMJCK3DR5TDLH7WUTNI.jpg

    It's true that these are something like what they had back home, but that's because back home is also crime ridden and people there need to live with barred windows. So if it was just "culture" it was a shitty culture.

    American towns took pride in the fact that yards were open to the street with only a short picket fence or often no fence separating you from the street. There was often a front porch and you would (in pre-radio, pre-AC days, sit out there and greet your passing neighbors. Because they were your fellow citizens and you were not afraid that they were going to hit you upside the head and steal your stuff. People didn't even lock the doors to their house.

    It's true that Roman houses were sort of inside out compared to modern houses - instead of a front yard and a back yard you'd have a center courtyard where most household activities took place in the mild Mediterranean climate and the walls facing the street would be mostly blank. And this pattern persisted in many Latin countries. But Romans didn't put broken glass and barbed wire on top of their walls - that comes with modern Latin American crime.

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Alden

    American towns took pride in the fact that yards were open to the street with only a short picket fence or often no fence separating you from the street.

    If you go to the “flats” of Beverly Hills, the mansions are just as you describe. Many of the old stars lived on streets where you could just walk up to their front door. On Roxbury, Jimmy Stewart’s place was like that. Across a side street (Lexington?) his closest neighbor to the north was Lucille Ball. Jack Benny and Peter Falk were right by there. Rosemary Clooney lived across the street, in a house that I think had been owned by Geoege Gershwin.

    All of their homes were ungated, and accessible from the sidewalk.

  125. @Curle
    @magilla

    What value is information from bank employees providing? Plenty of people have lots of bank money but little in terms of home valuables. I suppose the odds of the latter increase with the former . . . still. They could steal blank checks I guess.

    Replies: @magilla, @JR Ewing

    What value is information from bank employees providing?

    In a word, CASH.

    If someone is regularly making large cash transactions at the bank, either bringing it in or taking it out, the teller just has to tell the bad guys who and when and how often and the bad guys can probably figure out the rest.

  126. @Stonewall Jackson
    Kidnapping for ransome might be next in this fucked up dumpster fire of a country, brought to you by George Soros.
    Are rich folks in Cali body guarding up Sailer? I imagine little creepy Zuckerberg must have an army of private security.. Are private security firms in demand like never before there in that idiot state?

    My daughter taught for a couple of years in inner city schools in Virginia while she was getting her graduate degree... You have no idea the depth of the hideous nature of the black inner city youth until you do that... It is worse than ever. Middle school black children will intimidate and assault teachers. There is zero impulse control and the George Floyd mania has made it worse.

    That follow home thing happens in Northern VA... black thugs from PG county have followed people home from a casino across the river in Maryland.... targets have been Asians... Oh don't look for this story in the Washingon Post by the way... this is not he sort of story they cover... For those of you not from the area, PG or Prince George County is where the thugs live... it is adjacent to Southeast DC...

    Replies: @Jack D, @Buffalo Joe, @Harry Baldwin, @Ben the Layabout, @Anonymous

    Kidnapping for ransome might be next in this fucked up dumpster fire of a country, brought to you by George Soros.

    That will be harder than in Latin America because of all the surveillance cameras everywhere.

    Unless the police are in on it…

  127. @Jack D
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Yah, don't ask me to bail you out when you try that sovereign citizen crap on a cop.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Don’t sweat it, Jack. That’s a wife’s job.

    • LOL: JR Ewing
  128. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/kevrector/status/1476932513528307715
    https://twitter.com/shelbygrad/status/1476939096178458625

    December 8, 2021:
    https://twitter.com/kevrector/status/1468726206396698628
    https://twitter.com/kevrector/status/1468728881829928964
    https://twitter.com/kevrector/status/1468731573579231232
    https://twitter.com/kevrector/status/1468739984651812865

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Curle, @ic1000

    Trends mean little to those experiencing the worst sorts of crime, or the worst abuses of the justice system.

    Let’s just be intellectually honest, as best we can, about it all.

    I don’t think this is doing the best you can, Kevin:

    As I reported in October, LAPD detectives charged with solving these killings see many underlying causes – including a proliferation of guns …

    Try harder to be intellectually honest, Kevin Rector.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Detectives solve crimes if possible. Pondering underlying problems doesn’t solve crimes. The liberals can’t blame covid. But they do. With everyone observing 6 feet apart and working and staying at home there should be less crime than before covid like northern cities from January through March when it’s too cold to be out robbing and carjacking.

    And gun violence. Guns open the drawer or cabinet door or jump off the shelf. And hop to the door. Jump up to the door knob open the door and roll down the street till they find a victim. And move their trigger like people move their fingers. No human involved. It’s all the fault of guns.

  129. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/kevrector/status/1476932513528307715
    https://twitter.com/shelbygrad/status/1476939096178458625

    December 8, 2021:
    https://twitter.com/kevrector/status/1468726206396698628
    https://twitter.com/kevrector/status/1468728881829928964
    https://twitter.com/kevrector/status/1468731573579231232
    https://twitter.com/kevrector/status/1468739984651812865

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Curle, @ic1000

    ‘Gun’ violence. As in a gun was walking down the street found a victim and shot them. Well, arrest that gun, try them and put that gun in jail!

    Hispanic and black victims but gun perpetrators. Do police have ideas about when a gun is going to find a person to shoot?

  130. Why are we having new types of crime in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better?

    You ask the right question. Per Gary Becker, deterrence is based on four things: high probability of detection, high probability of conviction, high levels of punishment, and low benefit from successful activities.

    Because of libertarian obsession over “privacy”, the probability of detection is much lower than it need be (imagine CCTV everywhere, a universal biometric database, and good records on the social contacts of every American — a detective’s dream).

    Because of thug-loving leftish judicial officials, the probability of conviction is much lower than it need be.

    Our levels of punishment are nominally high. But there is pressure on prosecutors to accept pleas, and at the state level, most perps get out in half the time sentenced.

    Benefits are low from the typical crime: the “ethnographies” of street-level drug dealers show that most are working for less than minimum wage; an armed robbery rarely brings in more than a few hundred dollars.

  131. Why are we having new types of crime in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better? Because most of the crime is being committed by the ruling class’s favorite pets, and they don’t have the heart to put Fluffy on a leash.

    • Agree: Trevor, Old Prude
    • Replies: @Cortes
    @Mike_from_SGV

    Fluffy was the name of the killer pooch which Lawrence Block’s hitman Keller was paid * to euthanise, with hilarious NYC bitchy results.

    * https://lawrenceblock.com/books/keller-the-dogkiller/

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  132. @Hibernian
    @Joe Stalin

    Back in the day, it would have been recognized that robbing Chinese people in Chinatown was not a good idea.

    Replies: @Alden

    Nowadays Asians live all over cities and the suburbs. And often have businesses all over town and in the suburbs. And work at jobs all over town and in the suburbs.

    So they’re not in a ghetto with its own formal or informal security.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Alden

    The referenced neighborhood, Chinatown, is very heavily Chinese. It is also very small. Many, indeed most, Chinese people in Chicago and nearby are scattered all over, as you say. There are still a few old fashioned neighborhoods left. They've tended to be low crime, but all bets are off in the Brave New World of Sorosism.

  133. @International Jew
    @Anonymous

    Not quite. You'll know you're really in the 3rd world when the police want you to come, so they can kidnap you. (See under: Mexico)

    Replies: @mc23

    I worked with a guy who’s Uncle didn’t want to stay in resort, wanted to see the real country, went to Mexico City. He had to pay a $3000 bribe back in 2010 to stay out of prison over a traffic violation.

  134. @Curle
    @Alden

    Is there really an conviction imbalance between Jewish and Gentile deputy prosecutors in places like New York? I suppose if there’s an Jewish defendant but also where there’s only an black defendant and the defense attorney isn’t Jewish?

    Replies: @Alden

    All I know is that Jews and other liberals in San Francisco tend to acquit blacks because they are poor slavery etc. And one of the best (most wins) prosecutors when I was there was a Jew. He always tried to get one or more older Jews on his juries because of ethnic solidarity. It worked. He also had a great win record with juries with no Jews. But he always tried to get an older Jew on the jury if possible.

  135. @thenon
    @mc23

    The pair of sociopaths who ended up dead in the Miami shootout in 1986 got guns by going to isolated rural gun ranges and killing people there and stealing guns.

    Replies: @mc23, @ben tillman

    Like I said it was alway’s good advice but I don’t think I am being subjective when I say it’s different now and not better.

    First rule of a gun fight-

    1. Bring a gun. Preferably, bring at least two guns. Bring all of your friends who have guns. Bring their friends who have guns.

  136. @Mike_from_SGV
    Why are we having new types of crime in an era when the technology for making sure crime doesn’t pay has never been better? Because most of the crime is being committed by the ruling class's favorite pets, and they don't have the heart to put Fluffy on a leash.

    Replies: @Cortes

    Fluffy was the name of the killer pooch which Lawrence Block’s hitman Keller was paid * to euthanise, with hilarious NYC bitchy results.

    * https://lawrenceblock.com/books/keller-the-dogkiller/

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Cortes

    Lawrence Block’s books are good.

    https://www.amazon.com/Lawrence-Block/e/B000AQ4YK6

  137. @Coemgen
    @Seneca44

    The word, Capitalism, does sound scary. It's better to call the system by the descriptive Free Market (decentralized control of the economy and people).

    Communism is a euphemism for totalitarianism (centralized control of the economy and people).

    So, which do people prefer: the Free Market or Totalitarianism?

    Steve Sailer occasionally makes reference to the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis. Sapir-Whorf is a concept worth keeping in mind.

    Oh yeah, in case Socialism replaces Communism in your discussions: Socialism is the milder form of totalitarianism.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Oh yeah, in case Socialism replaces Communism in your discussions: Socialism is the milder form of totalitarianism.

    Most communist countries refer to themselves as socialist, as in Union of Socialist Soviet Republics. Either that, or Democratic Republics, as in North Korea or East Germany.

    Communism is socialism with machine guns.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Harry Baldwin


    Communism is socialism with machine guns.
     
    I'm using that one. Thanks, Harry.

    Replies: @JR Ewing

  138. @HammerJack
    @JimDandy

    To the extent they are able, the MSM will keep any and all crimes on the local news, if the victims are white and the person are not. And they are able to a very great extent indeed.

    Normally, in that sort of victim/perp situation, they won't even report the crime at all, and when they must they'll omit that particular information so that the masses find it easier to stick with Approved Narratives.

    If you dare to color outside the lines, you'll get what's coming to you.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    Is that why the media keeps underreporting Chicago’s homicides even when they’re admitting that Chicago has the most homicides?

    “Last year ended as one of the most violent on record for Chicago with more fatal shootings than any year in the last quarter century.

    The Chicago Police Department reported 797 homicides in the city in 2021, the most in Chicago since 1996 and more than any other city in the country.”

    Is it that murders that don’t involve guns no longer count as murders?

    Final 2021 Totals (vs 2020)
    Shot & Killed: 793 (+10%)
    Shot & Wounded: 3749 (+9%)
    Total Shot: 4542 (+9%)
    Total Homicides: 845 (+6%)

  139. @Achmed E. Newman
    @MEH 0910


    Trends mean little to those experiencing the worst sorts of crime, or the worst abuses of the justice system.

    Let's just be intellectually honest, as best we can, about it all.
     

    I don't think this is doing the best you can, Kevin:

    As I reported in October, LAPD detectives charged with solving these killings see many underlying causes - including a proliferation of guns ...
     
    Try harder to be intellectually honest, Kevin Rector.

    Replies: @Alden

    Detectives solve crimes if possible. Pondering underlying problems doesn’t solve crimes. The liberals can’t blame covid. But they do. With everyone observing 6 feet apart and working and staying at home there should be less crime than before covid like northern cities from January through March when it’s too cold to be out robbing and carjacking.

    And gun violence. Guns open the drawer or cabinet door or jump off the shelf. And hop to the door. Jump up to the door knob open the door and roll down the street till they find a victim. And move their trigger like people move their fingers. No human involved. It’s all the fault of guns.

  140. @Jack D
    @Ben the Layabout

    In the Latino area of Philadephia it is quite common to see front porches completely enclosed in iron bars. These are variously known as a balcon, a galeria, a cobertizo or rejas (it's quite common for the same thing to have different names in different Spanish speaking countries, ala lift/elevator).

    https://www.inquirer.com/resizer/t6i3hlCh31ZAvlsJRWaEWP2a2Hg=/800x533/smart/filters:format(webp)/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-pmn.s3.amazonaws.com/public/RJEU4PMOMJCK3DR5TDLH7WUTNI.jpg

    It's true that these are something like what they had back home, but that's because back home is also crime ridden and people there need to live with barred windows. So if it was just "culture" it was a shitty culture.

    American towns took pride in the fact that yards were open to the street with only a short picket fence or often no fence separating you from the street. There was often a front porch and you would (in pre-radio, pre-AC days, sit out there and greet your passing neighbors. Because they were your fellow citizens and you were not afraid that they were going to hit you upside the head and steal your stuff. People didn't even lock the doors to their house.

    It's true that Roman houses were sort of inside out compared to modern houses - instead of a front yard and a back yard you'd have a center courtyard where most household activities took place in the mild Mediterranean climate and the walls facing the street would be mostly blank. And this pattern persisted in many Latin countries. But Romans didn't put broken glass and barbed wire on top of their walls - that comes with modern Latin American crime.

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Alden

    At one time it was common all over America to build apartment buildings in a U shape 3 sides and the front lawn or court yard open to the street. There’s a popular 1950s style apartment building 2 stories 6 or 8 apartments no front door. All the apartment doors facing an open patio along the side.

    6 foot metal fences and locked gates have now been installed for most of those buildings. Used to be bars were a signal to not buy, rent or open a business in the neighborhood. Now they’re common everywhere. At least they are attractive. When the chain link fence and razor wire arrive it’s time to get out.

    Black south central Los Angeles used to have those barred enclosures covering the porch and front and back doors. Like those enclosures between the two doors into a downtown jewelry store

    A lot of people don’t like row houses but they are safer than single family and many apartments . No access from the back or side just the front. So bar the front.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Alden

    LOL at your reply to me, first of all, Alden, but let me mention this. In China there is the same problem - no, not violent muggings, rapes and murders, so much as just burglary. I would see so many burglar bars being manufactured on the streets of Canton that the shops would work out on the sidewalk - yeah, tack-welding away there, so you gotta step around it or hop through them! (No, I didn't mind - the lack of ChOSHA - Chinese OSHA - was refreshing to see for me anyway.)

    My post on that is "Cat burglars and entrepreneurship in China". Yes, China has not only smarter criminals, but lower BMI criminals that CAN climb up a set. I'm not sure how high up the average ChinaBurglar feels comfortable, but once you've got these on the ground floor (well, usually there are stores down below), then the next floor needs them, because they enable climbing up. Then, the next floor, until the average burglar would figure it just ain't worth it.

  141. @Muggles
    @Paul Mendez

    While I don't want to turn this into a long thread, just a few points:

    a. My "open carry" suggestion was about stopping follow-home robberies. Those happen when you stop to get out of your car and the follow on car of thugs runs up to you. Some variation of that.

    If you are seen holding or having a firearm, my guess is that the follow home perps will decide to take on easier targets. Especially if you have it ready.

    b. Most of the critics of my idea seem to think I'm advocating this for everyday, all the time use. No, it was specifically suggested as a visible deterrent when you are already being targeted and you know it.

    c. In Texas where constitutional carry was passed last year, open carry was added precisely to avoid legal issues (encountered by License To Carry holders, concealed) when a concealed weapon somehow becomes visible by accident. That can happen. So if both concealed and open carry are both legal, no problems. In Texas you still need a LTC for certain buildings and situations.

    I am not advocating open carry as a routine matter, unless your security situation requires visible deterrence. For most, that would be rare. If you are taking your business deposits to the bank, maybe not.

    Replies: @Alden

    Not a bad idea. My plan if I’m followed home is to stop in front of the neighborhood police station and run inside if they’re far away enough. Or look up that police station number and call that number tell them there’s a potential car jacking crime in progress right outside.

    I’ve always checked the location of the nearest police station everywhere I’ve lived worked and frequently shopped.

  142. @Alden
    @Jack D

    At one time it was common all over America to build apartment buildings in a U shape 3 sides and the front lawn or court yard open to the street. There’s a popular 1950s style apartment building 2 stories 6 or 8 apartments no front door. All the apartment doors facing an open patio along the side.

    6 foot metal fences and locked gates have now been installed for most of those buildings. Used to be bars were a signal to not buy, rent or open a business in the neighborhood. Now they’re common everywhere. At least they are attractive. When the chain link fence and razor wire arrive it’s time to get out.

    Black south central Los Angeles used to have those barred enclosures covering the porch and front and back doors. Like those enclosures between the two doors into a downtown jewelry store

    A lot of people don’t like row houses but they are safer than single family and many apartments . No access from the back or side just the front. So bar the front.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    LOL at your reply to me, first of all, Alden, but let me mention this. In China there is the same problem – no, not violent muggings, rapes and murders, so much as just burglary. I would see so many burglar bars being manufactured on the streets of Canton that the shops would work out on the sidewalk – yeah, tack-welding away there, so you gotta step around it or hop through them! (No, I didn’t mind – the lack of ChOSHA – Chinese OSHA – was refreshing to see for me anyway.)

    My post on that is “Cat burglars and entrepreneurship in China”. Yes, China has not only smarter criminals, but lower BMI criminals that CAN climb up a set. I’m not sure how high up the average ChinaBurglar feels comfortable, but once you’ve got these on the ground floor (well, usually there are stores down below), then the next floor needs them, because they enable climbing up. Then, the next floor, until the average burglar would figure it just ain’t worth it.

  143. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/kevrector/status/1476932513528307715
    https://twitter.com/shelbygrad/status/1476939096178458625

    December 8, 2021:
    https://twitter.com/kevrector/status/1468726206396698628
    https://twitter.com/kevrector/status/1468728881829928964
    https://twitter.com/kevrector/status/1468731573579231232
    https://twitter.com/kevrector/status/1468739984651812865

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Curle, @ic1000

    On Twitter, Mickey Kaus highlights an item mentioned by MEH 0910 as the LA Times‘ recent submission to the ongoing iSteve Upside-Down Newspaper Story Competition.


    [MORE]

    The lede:

    On Black Friday, a man and two women walked into an upscale consignment shop on Melrose Avenue. The women started shoving pairs of shoes into their bags and walked out, alarms blaring.

    Paragraph 4:

    A series of high-profile crimes in upscale parts of Los Angeles — the so-called smash-and-grab and follow-home robbery — have gotten widespread attention in recent months. Police have deployed officers to malls and shopping corridors such as Rodeo Drive and Melrose Avenue. Right-wing media have seized on the robberies as proof that crime in California is out of control.

    Paragraphs 5 to 23: These so-called thieves are the real victims.

    Paragraphs 24 to 28: The police arrested two Romani women, who declined to comment.

    Paragraphs 29 to 36: Okay, so there is some crime in wealthy Hollywood, but other neighborhoods have it worse.

    Paragraphs 37 to 44: The headline was “Smash-and-grabs and follow-home robberies captivated L.A. The real story was complicated,” and you’re still reading? Nothing better to do? Okay, here’s something about follow-home robberies.

    Paragraph 45 to the conclusion:

    Tyrique Shawndell Wise, 20, is a “well-known member” of the Bounty Hunters, a gang based in the Nickerson Gardens housing projects… Wise was first arrested at 13 and convicted of carrying a gun and ammunition as a minor, the report says. He was convicted at 15 of stealing a car and sent to a California Youth Authority facility in Stockton for 84 months, the report says. He was discharged on Nov. 17, 2020.

    Standing in the doorway of her home in Watts, Wise’s mother, Tyhisha Griggs, said the police have long assumed that her son is a gang member. When he was 11, a police officer stopped him while he was riding a dirt bike in the neighborhood and asked if he was a member of the Bounty Hunters, she said. “That’s been with him ever since.”

    Her son could not help growing up in a neighborhood or having relatives associated with the gang, she said. “If it’s a family member, it’s what it is — but some of us are honest, working people,” said Griggs, a school bus driver.

    Authorities say Wise was part of a group that committed the first in what would be a string of robberies at 11:30 p.m. on a Friday in May. A couple had driven home from a restaurant. As they waited for their garage door to open, two cars pulled up behind them, blocking their exit. At gunpoint, the couple handed over a Rolex, a Chanel wallet and a Louis Vuitton purse, according to the probation report.

    At 3 p.m. the next day, the report says, Wise and two companions pointed guns at a man standing on a sidewalk and shouted: “Give me all your s—. Give me everything!” They made off with a gold necklace valued at $80,000 and $12,000 in cash… Over the next six months, Wise and the others in his group… robbed another six people and tried to rob three more, prosecutors charge. In all, they took more than $500,000 worth of watches, jewelry, cash and other property, a detective told the probation officer who wrote the report…

    Jenkins, authorities say, was Wise’s final target. When the former television host saw men approaching his car with guns, he reversed out of his driveway and took off, the probation report says.

    Wise and his companions gave chase, according to the report. Someone in their car fired shots at Jenkins, but neither he nor his friend was hit, the document says.

    At 2 that morning, LAPD officers in a marked patrol car tried to pull over Wise. He led them on a pursuit, driving “erratically” and at “high rates of speed,” the report says…

    Wise has pleaded not guilty to 17 counts of robbery, attempted robbery, assault, shooting into an occupied car, evading the police, possessing a gun with juvenile priors, and the attempted murders of Jenkins and his friend.

    Heckuva job, cub reporters Matthew Ormseth and Brittny Mejia!

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @ic1000

    Tyrique Shawndell Wise is EXACTLY like Jean Valjean. He is going to pawn that stolen jewelry to start a factory and employee hundreds of his fellow ghetto dwellers. He's only stealing those Rolexes 'cause his keeds are hungry.

    I read the whole article and never found out why "it's complicated". Seems pretty straightfoward to me . Tyrique summed it up perfectly when he announced one of his gunpoint robberies:


    Gib me all yo' shit. Gib me everything!

     

    Replies: @ic1000

  144. @Harry Baldwin
    @Coemgen

    Oh yeah, in case Socialism replaces Communism in your discussions: Socialism is the milder form of totalitarianism.

    Most communist countries refer to themselves as socialist, as in Union of Socialist Soviet Republics. Either that, or Democratic Republics, as in North Korea or East Germany.

    Communism is socialism with machine guns.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Communism is socialism with machine guns.

    I’m using that one. Thanks, Harry.

    • Replies: @JR Ewing
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The "more gentle" difference between Communism and Socialism was more or less coined by the soviets after they took power and then pushed into western parlance because the word "communist" became toxic after WW2. Not that it was much beloved during the 100 years before, either, but the excesses of the USSR and the Cold War basically turned it into a pejorative in the west so an alternative was needed that didn't conjure up images of guns and gulags and the Berlin Wall, especially in western countries that nationalized certain industries, like the UK and France, and their ally the United States, who found such nationalization to be inconvenient to the narrative of fighting evil Russian communists.

    Marx himself never articulated a difference and used the terms (and a few others) interchangeably in his writings, although he obviously used "communism" in some of the more prominent book titles and passages therein.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind

  145. @thenon
    @mc23

    The pair of sociopaths who ended up dead in the Miami shootout in 1986 got guns by going to isolated rural gun ranges and killing people there and stealing guns.

    Replies: @mc23, @ben tillman

    Whose guns did they use to kill the gun range patrons? Why didn’t they use those presumably untraceable guns for the later crimes?

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @ben tillman

    I’ve attached a report on a murder at a Pennsylvania Public Rifle Range from a decade ago. Protocol at ranges is to leave your rifle at your shooting position with the action open while you walk downrange to examine/re-hang targets. The victim in this case was shot with his own rifle. Sometimes guns are just stolen.
    Attention must be paid to security.
    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/murder-at-pennsylvania-gun-range/

  146. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Harry Baldwin


    Communism is socialism with machine guns.
     
    I'm using that one. Thanks, Harry.

    Replies: @JR Ewing

    The “more gentle” difference between Communism and Socialism was more or less coined by the soviets after they took power and then pushed into western parlance because the word “communist” became toxic after WW2. Not that it was much beloved during the 100 years before, either, but the excesses of the USSR and the Cold War basically turned it into a pejorative in the west so an alternative was needed that didn’t conjure up images of guns and gulags and the Berlin Wall, especially in western countries that nationalized certain industries, like the UK and France, and their ally the United States, who found such nationalization to be inconvenient to the narrative of fighting evil Russian communists.

    Marx himself never articulated a difference and used the terms (and a few others) interchangeably in his writings, although he obviously used “communism” in some of the more prominent book titles and passages therein.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    @JR Ewing

    C'mon people.

    Communism is the end state of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" where the "government melts away."

    Socialism is the intermediate stage between Capitalism and Communism, which has not been achieved.

    I believe the Soviets called their economic arrangement Socialism. They had an organization called the Communist Party to steer society in the direction of the Communist endpoint. It operated with interminable meetings with persons who like the sound of their own voice taking up the time of anyone trying to get any real work done, pretty much, like a faculty senate or any of a number of university committees.

  147. @Alden
    @Hibernian

    Nowadays Asians live all over cities and the suburbs. And often have businesses all over town and in the suburbs. And work at jobs all over town and in the suburbs.

    So they’re not in a ghetto with its own formal or informal security.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    The referenced neighborhood, Chinatown, is very heavily Chinese. It is also very small. Many, indeed most, Chinese people in Chicago and nearby are scattered all over, as you say. There are still a few old fashioned neighborhoods left. They’ve tended to be low crime, but all bets are off in the Brave New World of Sorosism.

  148. JMcG says:
    @ben tillman
    @thenon

    Whose guns did they use to kill the gun range patrons? Why didn't they use those presumably untraceable guns for the later crimes?

    Replies: @JMcG

    I’ve attached a report on a murder at a Pennsylvania Public Rifle Range from a decade ago. Protocol at ranges is to leave your rifle at your shooting position with the action open while you walk downrange to examine/re-hang targets. The victim in this case was shot with his own rifle. Sometimes guns are just stolen.
    Attention must be paid to security.
    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/murder-at-pennsylvania-gun-range/

  149. @ic1000
    @MEH 0910

    On Twitter, Mickey Kaus highlights an item mentioned by MEH 0910 as the LA Times' recent submission to the ongoing iSteve Upside-Down Newspaper Story Competition.
    https://twitter.com/kausmickey/status/1477527311494758400

    The lede:


    On Black Friday, a man and two women walked into an upscale consignment shop on Melrose Avenue. The women started shoving pairs of shoes into their bags and walked out, alarms blaring.
     
    Paragraph 4:

    A series of high-profile crimes in upscale parts of Los Angeles — the so-called smash-and-grab and follow-home robbery — have gotten widespread attention in recent months. Police have deployed officers to malls and shopping corridors such as Rodeo Drive and Melrose Avenue. Right-wing media have seized on the robberies as proof that crime in California is out of control.
     
    Paragraphs 5 to 23: These so-called thieves are the real victims.

    Paragraphs 24 to 28: The police arrested two Romani women, who declined to comment.

    Paragraphs 29 to 36: Okay, so there is some crime in wealthy Hollywood, but other neighborhoods have it worse.

    Paragraphs 37 to 44: The headline was "Smash-and-grabs and follow-home robberies captivated L.A. The real story was complicated," and you're still reading? Nothing better to do? Okay, here's something about follow-home robberies.

    Paragraph 45 to the conclusion:


    Tyrique Shawndell Wise, 20, is a “well-known member” of the Bounty Hunters, a gang based in the Nickerson Gardens housing projects... Wise was first arrested at 13 and convicted of carrying a gun and ammunition as a minor, the report says. He was convicted at 15 of stealing a car and sent to a California Youth Authority facility in Stockton for 84 months, the report says. He was discharged on Nov. 17, 2020.

    Standing in the doorway of her home in Watts, Wise’s mother, Tyhisha Griggs, said the police have long assumed that her son is a gang member. When he was 11, a police officer stopped him while he was riding a dirt bike in the neighborhood and asked if he was a member of the Bounty Hunters, she said. “That’s been with him ever since.”

    Her son could not help growing up in a neighborhood or having relatives associated with the gang, she said. “If it’s a family member, it’s what it is — but some of us are honest, working people,” said Griggs, a school bus driver.

    Authorities say Wise was part of a group that committed the first in what would be a string of robberies at 11:30 p.m. on a Friday in May. A couple had driven home from a restaurant. As they waited for their garage door to open, two cars pulled up behind them, blocking their exit. At gunpoint, the couple handed over a Rolex, a Chanel wallet and a Louis Vuitton purse, according to the probation report.

    At 3 p.m. the next day, the report says, Wise and two companions pointed guns at a man standing on a sidewalk and shouted: “Give me all your s—. Give me everything!” They made off with a gold necklace valued at $80,000 and $12,000 in cash... Over the next six months, Wise and the others in his group... robbed another six people and tried to rob three more, prosecutors charge. In all, they took more than $500,000 worth of watches, jewelry, cash and other property, a detective told the probation officer who wrote the report...

    Jenkins, authorities say, was Wise’s final target. When the former television host saw men approaching his car with guns, he reversed out of his driveway and took off, the probation report says.

    Wise and his companions gave chase, according to the report. Someone in their car fired shots at Jenkins, but neither he nor his friend was hit, the document says.

    At 2 that morning, LAPD officers in a marked patrol car tried to pull over Wise. He led them on a pursuit, driving “erratically” and at “high rates of speed,” the report says...

    Wise has pleaded not guilty to 17 counts of robbery, attempted robbery, assault, shooting into an occupied car, evading the police, possessing a gun with juvenile priors, and the attempted murders of Jenkins and his friend.
     

    Heckuva job, cub reporters Matthew Ormseth and Brittny Mejia!

    Replies: @Jack D

    Tyrique Shawndell Wise is EXACTLY like Jean Valjean. He is going to pawn that stolen jewelry to start a factory and employee hundreds of his fellow ghetto dwellers. He’s only stealing those Rolexes ’cause his keeds are hungry.

    I read the whole article and never found out why “it’s complicated”. Seems pretty straightfoward to me . Tyrique summed it up perfectly when he announced one of his gunpoint robberies:

    Gib me all yo’ shit. Gib me everything!

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @Jack D

    > I read the whole [upside-down LA Times] article and never found out why “it’s complicated.”

    Jack D, you weren't paying attention. Jimmy Olsen and Lois Lane explained, right at the top of the article.


    Right-wing media have seized on the robberies as proof that crime in California is out of control.
     
    The crime spree is dispositive evidence that all claims of right-wing media are false. As Orwell noted, there are some ideas so complicated that only cub reporters, their editor, and their faithful readers could believe them.

    Replies: @Jack D

  150. @Neutral Observer

    Follow Home Robberies
     
    In San Francisco, Follow Home/to the Hotel from the Airport Vehicle Break-Ins are now popular. The perps wait at the airport arrival lanes, note the SUV's that are loaded up with baggage, follow them to the local destination and then do a quick smash and grab if the occupants walk inside before emptying the vehicle.

    I imagine that this M.O. will quickly propagate across the country.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    That kind of “go for the hire car” theft has long been a thing in places like Spain and Southern Italy, both “follow from the airport”, when you can be pretty sure all the goodies are in the boot/trunk, and the more opportunistic “hire car in the public car park” ones.

    A relative suffered from the latter on the last day of the holiday while having lunch in a small town – their cards, phones and passports were with them but the cases with clothes/cameras/Ipads/laptops all went.

    Still, not as bad as the couple I knew who flew into Sicily, picked up a car at the airport, drove into town with her handbag on the back window shelf. At the lights, motorcycle pulls up alongside, back window smashed and they’re off with her handbag. Welcome to Palermo!

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Maybe Italy but I never felt the slightest bit unsafe in Spain. I drove a rental car and parked it on the street or in public lots or garages all the time and no one touched a thing.

  151. @AnotherDad
    @Harry Baldwin


    If you’re following someone, after they punch in the code to open the gate you can usually slip in behind them.
     
    As the decline continues, high end communities/buildings will have to move to two gates with a sort of "crimelock"--accommodating only one vehicle--in-between.

    Replies: @Curle

    As the decline continues more communities will be asking cities to dedicate the public streets back to HOAs so they can be gated. The only problem I sense from the car lock solution is emergency vehicles like fire trucks.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Curle

    Fire trucks already have devices that turn red lights green. These could be adapted to open the gates of gated communities as well.

    Criminals could get these devices too but they are not easy to source and most of the criminals are driving stolen cars that would not be so equipped.

    Someone I knew who owned a car stereo and electronics shop put one of these devices on his car so he wouldn't have to wait for green lights. Somehow the cops caught him. He was friendly with the local cops so they didn't arrest him (maybe they got free stereo upgrades) but they told him to remove it from his car immediately and never use it again.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  152. @Cortes
    @Mike_from_SGV

    Fluffy was the name of the killer pooch which Lawrence Block’s hitman Keller was paid * to euthanise, with hilarious NYC bitchy results.

    * https://lawrenceblock.com/books/keller-the-dogkiller/

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Lawrence Block’s books are good.

  153. @JR Ewing
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The "more gentle" difference between Communism and Socialism was more or less coined by the soviets after they took power and then pushed into western parlance because the word "communist" became toxic after WW2. Not that it was much beloved during the 100 years before, either, but the excesses of the USSR and the Cold War basically turned it into a pejorative in the west so an alternative was needed that didn't conjure up images of guns and gulags and the Berlin Wall, especially in western countries that nationalized certain industries, like the UK and France, and their ally the United States, who found such nationalization to be inconvenient to the narrative of fighting evil Russian communists.

    Marx himself never articulated a difference and used the terms (and a few others) interchangeably in his writings, although he obviously used "communism" in some of the more prominent book titles and passages therein.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind

    C’mon people.

    Communism is the end state of “from each according to his ability, to each according to his need” where the “government melts away.”

    Socialism is the intermediate stage between Capitalism and Communism, which has not been achieved.

    I believe the Soviets called their economic arrangement Socialism. They had an organization called the Communist Party to steer society in the direction of the Communist endpoint. It operated with interminable meetings with persons who like the sound of their own voice taking up the time of anyone trying to get any real work done, pretty much, like a faculty senate or any of a number of university committees.

  154. @Jack D
    @ic1000

    Tyrique Shawndell Wise is EXACTLY like Jean Valjean. He is going to pawn that stolen jewelry to start a factory and employee hundreds of his fellow ghetto dwellers. He's only stealing those Rolexes 'cause his keeds are hungry.

    I read the whole article and never found out why "it's complicated". Seems pretty straightfoward to me . Tyrique summed it up perfectly when he announced one of his gunpoint robberies:


    Gib me all yo' shit. Gib me everything!

     

    Replies: @ic1000

    > I read the whole [upside-down LA Times] article and never found out why “it’s complicated.”

    Jack D, you weren’t paying attention. Jimmy Olsen and Lois Lane explained, right at the top of the article.

    Right-wing media have seized on the robberies as proof that crime in California is out of control.

    The crime spree is dispositive evidence that all claims of right-wing media are false. As Orwell noted, there are some ideas so complicated that only cub reporters, their editor, and their faithful readers could believe them.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @ic1000

    All claims of right-wing media are by definition false, even if they are true.

    When an event is observed by the right-wing media, it's like quantum mechanics - the very act of observation changes the state of the observed object from true to false. This phenomenon is sometimes called Schrödinger's Smash and Grab.

  155. @Alden
    @Anonymous

    Well, union station is in a low lying area. And very near the river. Driving in Ca monsoon winters I always try to check as far ahead as possible to see if the streets are flooded. Going downhill can be a disaster. I once saw a couple blocks off the water so high in the intersection it covered the seats of the bus benches. So I took a right turn and and went back. And, the flooded intersection wasn’t even at the bottom of a hill. Just more or less flat. People were driving through the water.

    NorCal sometimes the rain falls so fast the windshield wipers can’t keep up. And the man hole covers are swept away as the pipes are flooded. Still, it’s a lot better than months of snow.

    No mudslides so far.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Extensive parts of Chicago are like that. We’re New Orleans North, with a lot of reclaimed wetlands.

  156. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Neutral Observer

    That kind of "go for the hire car" theft has long been a thing in places like Spain and Southern Italy, both "follow from the airport", when you can be pretty sure all the goodies are in the boot/trunk, and the more opportunistic "hire car in the public car park" ones.

    A relative suffered from the latter on the last day of the holiday while having lunch in a small town - their cards, phones and passports were with them but the cases with clothes/cameras/Ipads/laptops all went.

    Still, not as bad as the couple I knew who flew into Sicily, picked up a car at the airport, drove into town with her handbag on the back window shelf. At the lights, motorcycle pulls up alongside, back window smashed and they're off with her handbag. Welcome to Palermo!

    Replies: @Jack D

    Maybe Italy but I never felt the slightest bit unsafe in Spain. I drove a rental car and parked it on the street or in public lots or garages all the time and no one touched a thing.

  157. @Curle
    @AnotherDad

    As the decline continues more communities will be asking cities to dedicate the public streets back to HOAs so they can be gated. The only problem I sense from the car lock solution is emergency vehicles like fire trucks.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Fire trucks already have devices that turn red lights green. These could be adapted to open the gates of gated communities as well.

    Criminals could get these devices too but they are not easy to source and most of the criminals are driving stolen cars that would not be so equipped.

    Someone I knew who owned a car stereo and electronics shop put one of these devices on his car so he wouldn’t have to wait for green lights. Somehow the cops caught him. He was friendly with the local cops so they didn’t arrest him (maybe they got free stereo upgrades) but they told him to remove it from his car immediately and never use it again.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    One of those would have saved a lot of trouble back in 1991. The Crown Heights Riot happened because the trailing car in a rabbi's motorcade ran a red light to keep in formation.

  158. @ic1000
    @Jack D

    > I read the whole [upside-down LA Times] article and never found out why “it’s complicated.”

    Jack D, you weren't paying attention. Jimmy Olsen and Lois Lane explained, right at the top of the article.


    Right-wing media have seized on the robberies as proof that crime in California is out of control.
     
    The crime spree is dispositive evidence that all claims of right-wing media are false. As Orwell noted, there are some ideas so complicated that only cub reporters, their editor, and their faithful readers could believe them.

    Replies: @Jack D

    All claims of right-wing media are by definition false, even if they are true.

    When an event is observed by the right-wing media, it’s like quantum mechanics – the very act of observation changes the state of the observed object from true to false. This phenomenon is sometimes called Schrödinger’s Smash and Grab.

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
  159. @Ben the Layabout
    @Stonewall Jackson

    Your words still echo a fondness of a Fairfax County (majority white leafy suburbs) long gone. NoVA has established plenty of colonies of filth of its own, even if still not to the worst of PG or DC. Ironically, Washington itself has gentrified in a few decades; the black population dropped to about 50% from much higher. This probably reflects the expensive real estate. If your rent or home is going to cost the moon, you might as well trade a two-hour each way commute for a slightly higher crime rate and live in the city. Always left unasked is "Where did all the poor Blacks move to?" Perhaps other hellholes: Baltimore is only 30 minutes north. But some of them moved into the suburbs, ah that wonderful Section 8!

    I suspect America's future (for the wealthy or even upper-middle class) will tend more to what Latin America and many other parts of the world have always endured. The wealthy live in walled compounds guarded round-the-clock by private security with firearms. Trips out into the world are only when necessary, and typically will have at minimum a bodyguard or perhaps several in one or more support vehicles.

    It's a pity to say so, but long ago America was unusual in that for the most part, it successfully kept the violent and criminal in prison or at least policed away from respectable areas. But we are returning to the default of the world, where the predator runs free and the sheep must be penned in for their own safety.

    Replies: @Stonewall Jackson

    Ben— You raise a very good question. Where did all the blacks go? That can be said apparently for many places across the country. California for instance. Is it the huge abortion rates?

    • Replies: @74v56ruthiyj
    @Stonewall Jackson

    In Southern California, Mexicans have run the Blacks out of Compton and Watts, and other places no doubt. The Blacks go to San Bernardino or Palmdale where they get Section 8 housing. Read up on the Figueroa Corridor in Los Angles, or the Cabrini Green housing project in Chicago. Real estate bigwigs send Blacks out into the hinterlands with Section 8 vouchers and replace them with Mexicans. With Mexicans in place, they can begin to gentrify, since Mexican crime against Whites is mostly property crime instead of murder and assault. In 20 years, the Mexicans have been replaced with hipsters in expensive condos. In two decades you can turn a ghetto into a gold mine.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @Alden
    @Stonewall Jackson

    You don’t live in California do you? The census might claim blacks are only 5 percent if the population. But there are a lot more of them than the 5 percent that actually fill out and return the census forms.

    There are prevalent in all the cities. Including the towns in the Central Valley. The only places free of them are the expensive suburbs. And affordable housing is coming. Plus the freeways and public transit allow them to easily travel 20 30, 50 miles searching for prey.

  160. @Stonewall Jackson
    @Ben the Layabout

    Ben--- You raise a very good question. Where did all the blacks go? That can be said apparently for many places across the country. California for instance. Is it the huge abortion rates?

    Replies: @74v56ruthiyj, @Alden

    In Southern California, Mexicans have run the Blacks out of Compton and Watts, and other places no doubt. The Blacks go to San Bernardino or Palmdale where they get Section 8 housing. Read up on the Figueroa Corridor in Los Angles, or the Cabrini Green housing project in Chicago. Real estate bigwigs send Blacks out into the hinterlands with Section 8 vouchers and replace them with Mexicans. With Mexicans in place, they can begin to gentrify, since Mexican crime against Whites is mostly property crime instead of murder and assault. In 20 years, the Mexicans have been replaced with hipsters in expensive condos. In two decades you can turn a ghetto into a gold mine.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @74v56ruthiyj

    Yes, a ghetto can be turned into a goldmine.... if everything works out as planned.

  161. @Stonewall Jackson
    @Ben the Layabout

    Ben--- You raise a very good question. Where did all the blacks go? That can be said apparently for many places across the country. California for instance. Is it the huge abortion rates?

    Replies: @74v56ruthiyj, @Alden

    You don’t live in California do you? The census might claim blacks are only 5 percent if the population. But there are a lot more of them than the 5 percent that actually fill out and return the census forms.

    There are prevalent in all the cities. Including the towns in the Central Valley. The only places free of them are the expensive suburbs. And affordable housing is coming. Plus the freeways and public transit allow them to easily travel 20 30, 50 miles searching for prey.

  162. @74v56ruthiyj
    @Stonewall Jackson

    In Southern California, Mexicans have run the Blacks out of Compton and Watts, and other places no doubt. The Blacks go to San Bernardino or Palmdale where they get Section 8 housing. Read up on the Figueroa Corridor in Los Angles, or the Cabrini Green housing project in Chicago. Real estate bigwigs send Blacks out into the hinterlands with Section 8 vouchers and replace them with Mexicans. With Mexicans in place, they can begin to gentrify, since Mexican crime against Whites is mostly property crime instead of murder and assault. In 20 years, the Mexicans have been replaced with hipsters in expensive condos. In two decades you can turn a ghetto into a gold mine.

    Replies: @Alden

    Yes, a ghetto can be turned into a goldmine…. if everything works out as planned.

  163. @Jack D
    @Curle

    Fire trucks already have devices that turn red lights green. These could be adapted to open the gates of gated communities as well.

    Criminals could get these devices too but they are not easy to source and most of the criminals are driving stolen cars that would not be so equipped.

    Someone I knew who owned a car stereo and electronics shop put one of these devices on his car so he wouldn't have to wait for green lights. Somehow the cops caught him. He was friendly with the local cops so they didn't arrest him (maybe they got free stereo upgrades) but they told him to remove it from his car immediately and never use it again.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    One of those would have saved a lot of trouble back in 1991. The Crown Heights Riot happened because the trailing car in a rabbi’s motorcade ran a red light to keep in formation.

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