Hot mess. This fenteyl guy was high as a kite and resisting arrest during most of the video

Translation: Perhaps Floyd’s death was not the direct result of the MPD after all. So when can we expect BLM and Antifa to publicly issue an apology and cease forthwith all the rioting that’s been going on in the US this summer?

Opiates kill 70,000 plus Americans per year, likely even more during the Corona virus lockdown. The number of unarmed Black men shot and killed by police ranges from 9 to 15 per annum.

Imagine if Americans focused their political outrage and energy to reducing opiates deaths as opposed to the largely imagined deaths of unarmed Black men. This would not be a racially divisive cause, but would benefit Americans of every background.

It’s pretty clear he didn’t want to be arrested, so what gave the cops the right to do so?

This video is just sad. It’s not a case of some arrogant punk who thinks “I don’t feel like getting arrested today”. It’s someone freaking out.

A little off-topic, but here’s a recent story of crime and punishment.

The crime:

http://www.terpconnect.umd.edu/~pnc/temp/Mead2020_Article_PovertyAndCulture.pdf

The outcry:

https://retractionwatch.com/2020/07/27/hundreds-petition-to-retract-paper-they-call-unscholarly-overtly-racist-and-full-of-racially-violent-narratives/

And the punishment:

https://retractionwatch.com/2020/07/31/springer-nature-retracts-paper-that-hundreds-called-overtly-racist/

OT, or maybe not, in some James Burke kind of way, Pooja Jhunjhunwala has just announced the Trump Administration’s firing of Merritt Corrigan from USAID due to her offending a certain minority’s sensibilities:

White House-USAID liaison fired after series of anti-LGBTQ tweets

There is a surprising number of Pooja Jhunjhunwalas in the world, so make sure any complaints you have are lodged with the right one.

The amount of fentanyl in George Floyd’s system wasn’t enough to always kill him

What the Devil are you talking about, man? The autopsy shows THREE times the lethal dose in his blood. And that’s just the fentanyl. He had a grip of meth in his blood, too.

I can’t breathe. That’s what happens when you have THREE times the lethal dose in you.

Wasn’t enough? Are you for real?

Well, so much for the heroic pose of St. George Floyd. He’ll lose a lot of respect from the black gangstas from this video alone. (Rule number one: never cry in front of the po-po. Rule number 2: never beg from the po-po.)

The police seemed rather professional. They didn’t seem startled or overly aggressive. I’m sure they’ve dealt with situations like that before. Floyd was flopping like a fish in the back of that police car and I think head-butted the police officer that had this body cam at [8:02].

Chauvin is still in prison awaiting trial? If true, that is terribly unfair. His lawyers need to be fighting for their client in the court of public opinion. Make the point over and over that Chauvin was trying to help Floyd the best he could do. Get him to stay still and calm down which waiting for ambulance that was expected at any moment.

Also good to remind ourselves that “unarmed” does not, contrary to ill-informed popular opinion, ipso facto make a shooting unjustified. Plenty of other factors and circumstances can justify the use of deadly force besides a physical weapon. (A buddy of mine remembers his Coast Guard superiors warning his gigantic Samoan shipmate not to come back from leave drunk and ready to pick a fight, because “We’ll have to shoot you, since you’re too big to subdue otherwise”). Police officers are convicted of actual homicide less than an average of once per year, though most bad shoots wind up going as manslaughter or some lesser charge.

Are people still talking about Floyd? The left has been ignoring him for their ‘own personal issues’ for a long time now.

White trannies seem to be hogging all the airtime. Do blacks even get gender reassignment surgery, or is that a white thing?

I listened to some of my police officer acquaintances gripe at length about the shortcomings of the bodycam program when it first rolled out, but once they had time to work out the kinks and establish some sensible policies, most have concurred that the bodycams now work out heavily in their favor (though they still cost the city an arm and a leg).

Imagine if Americans focused their political outrage and energy to reducing opiates deaths as opposed to the largely imagined deaths of unarmed Black men. This would not be a racially divisive cause, but would benefit Americans of every background.

But then you have to contend with people that medically use those drugs (not just terminal cancer patients, the traditional recipients before the boom-boom 1990s) and the stock market. That’ll be a massive undertaking. I think they solved the initial problem by adding stuff to the pills that significantly hinders the chemical high and/or chance of overdose. (If they did that before, we wouldn’t be in this mess.)

There is a surprising number of Pooja Jhunjhunwalas in the world…

A hell of a lot. I prefer Merritt Corrigan.

Because they’re racist, everything non-black is racist. It’s so obvious. Get with the MSM’s Narrative program.

“High as a kite everybody, goofballs!”

OT: Someone says that Milwaukee’s murder rate, per population, is comparable to Chicago’s. LA and NYC have a much lower murder rate per population (probably because it’s getting to be too expensive for blacks to occupy much territory in LA and NYC). A lot of Milwaukee’s blacks originally came from Chicago, so it seems they have an especially concentrated set of murderous blacks violent gene lines.

They’re going to spin this the same way they tried with the Atlanta jogger: “He was being nice and polite and calling the police officer ‘sir’ while begging not to be shot and crying.” The obvious implication being that because he can shuck and jive up some sympathy the cops should have just let him go.

Of course this framing ignores the fact that he was clearly high off his rocker in the driver side of a vehicle. What if the cops had let him go and he killed your son, your daughter, your husband in a DWI incident? What then?

Did the media program him to freak out?

Never.

It’ll be labeled “a highly contested issue” for a debate that’ll never occur. It’ll be memory-holed like Trayvon Martin‘s backpack full of jewelry and giant screwdriver.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/05/01/m-dspd-cover-up-the-curious-case-of-trayvon-martins-backpack-with-stolen-jewelry-and-burglary-tool/

Trayvon was Saint Skittles, The Innocuous.

What should ol’ Georgie-boy be?

Saint Floyd, The Breathless?

No Steve lower property values and thus rents are exactly what the White urban mostly female professional class wants. A bunch of dudes like George Floyd running amok is exactly what rings their bell.

Lower rents and tingles.

Black peoples are not exactly hot to move to suburbs. That’s already filled with Hispanics. And Lori Lightfoot will move heaven and earth to keep her voters. Mexicans are not voting Groot.

Hopefully she’ll settle down with a nice young Chad and start making babies.

I guess the trail hasn’t been scheduled yet? Waiting for it to start and for the aftermath. Prep now if you can afford it.

Derrick Chauvin is not guilty of murder, IMO, and this video seems to prove it. Even before he was on the ground, George Floyd made a couple of remarks that suggested he might encounter breathing difficulties in the imminent future, suggesting that he’d had such episodes in the past. It seemed he wanted to be on the ground so that he could breathe. He said multiple times he wasn’t going to resist…yet resisted pretty consistently throughout the incident. Did the cops take his warnings about breathing with the same grain of salt that they took his promises not to resist? I couldn’t blame them if they did.

He said things like “please don’t shoot me” and “I don’t want to die,” and I believe he was very sincere, but he seemed overwhelmed by his fear and was unable to control his flight/resistance response. Why? This is a guy who’d been arrested by cops dozens of times over the years, and had survived all of those arrests, so why was he so paranoid during this particular arrest? According to him, he’d been shot before and was scared of that happening again. Or was it the drugs? Or did he just think his previous and vast record was going to nail him to the wall this time? Or…maybe it was the widespread mythology that white cops murder black male suspects all the time, a myth that you can see propagated on almost any major media news broadcast, in one way or another.

Still, George is a sympathetic character in this case. Either the drugs or his paranoia or his inability to comprehend the reality of the situation was likely the cause of death. His airway wasn’t crushed, yet his breathing stopped. I believe he died of fright. “Claustrophobia” as he said?

The USG basically carves states out of existing states (i.e. public lands), in violation of Article 4 §3.

But I would have no problem with the USG transferring the large, US legal population of tax leeches to the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (AK), and then peeling it off as the 51st state.

We could call it “Liberia”.

“Lethal dose” is different for everyone and is likely higher for a junky like George kirby. Mind you, I don’t think the knee hold alone killed him, and I’m not sure what else the cops could have done in that situation

Perhaps the hundreds of millions of dollars donated to Black Lives Matter can be rerouted to repairing the damage done by rioters to small businesses.

I try not to get mad about culture war shell game nonsense… but I’m actually kinda pissed that this video, which should be more than enough to correct the moronic narrative surrounding the martyrdom of St. Floyd, will be ignored and/or framed in a way that just reifies said moronic narrative. What a midwit world we live in.

As if this will make any difference whatsoever to the current zeitgeist and narrative. Not a freaking chance…

I hope so too. She also tweeted that Viktor Orbán is “a shining champion of Western civilization”.

Elsewhere she wrote:

A woman today is expected by society to come to marriage and motherhood in physical and spiritual decline, if ever. This is the life women have been offered by those who would rather us toil away as isolated economic units for faceless corporations, far from the natural pleasures of the domestic, far from the guardianship of a loving husband, and far from the life-giving experience of motherhood.

She has no business in the Washington cesspit.

What if the cops had let him go and he killed your son, your daughter, your husband in a DWI incident?

It would have been reported in the local news with no photos of the perp or the victims.

The amount of fentanyl in George Floyd’s system wasn’t enough to always kill him, but it was definitely in the range where it sometimes can cause users to stop breathing.

The quantum of fentanyl in Floyd’s femoral blood was 11 nanograms per cc. I found literature which reviewed scores of autopsies on overdose deaths. That’s close to the median value observed in such deaths. I’m going to wager that if the case weren’t so contentious, it would have been ruled an overdose death and everyone outside his social circle would have forgotten about it.

“Lethal dose” is different for everyone and is likely higher for a junky like George kirby.

The coroner measured the femoral blood level, i.e. the quantum in his bloodstream after it had been metabolized.

The Daily Mail is not as woke as most of the media so it is interesting to see how they spin the video to still make the cops ruthless murderers of George. I can only imagine the spin of CNN and the NYT. The Mail article is a good example of why the so called news outlets don’t like comment sections that aren’t heavily censored. Commenters notice

“…most have concurred that the bodycams now work out heavily in their favor (though they still cost the city an arm and a leg.

Which is why Obama while still in office said “Bodycams aren’t always the answer.”

The gentle giant’s child-like lack of mens rea due to low IQ would sway any jury. “He cried for his mamma…” as the not guilty verdict is issued.

Not just 11ng/ml, but additionally 5.6 ng/ml norfentanyl, its metabolite.
I am not a chemist or a physiologist, but doesn’t that mean that he actually dosed (however) on almost 17 ng/ml?
17 ng/ml is more than enough to induce respiratory failure in a 6’4″ 223 lb. male.
That’s a lot of fentanyl to get that concentration, a self-administered overdose.
No way you can pin murder on that.
2nd degree manslaughter? I’m not a lawyer.

Yes ,that’s happening right now on bizarro world.

NO CONVICTIONS IN THIS CASE POSSIBLE FROM THE GETGO. They overcharged murder 2 deliberately to cause more rioting when it’s all thrown out. The Tape tells the tale…

Floyd refused to open the car window/door when the cop first knocked.

Floyd showed obvious signs of intoxication.

Floyd claimed he couldn’t breathe while standing.

Floyd WANTED to get on the ground. The officers wanted him in the cop car.

Floyd claimed he couldn’t get into the police car without claustrophobia but sat in his own car with no problem.

Floyd claimed to have Covid19.

Video/audio shows the officer’s knee on the neck was not causing Floyd’s airway to be blocked. It was an immobilization technique not a choking technique. It took Floyd 7 minutes plus to pass out from the drugs. Lack of oxygen would’ve knocked him out much quicker.

Also Floyd’s two companions complied with officers instructions and had no problems.

So after a few minutes into the arrest the cops knew…

1 Floyd was uncooperative verbally/physically.
2 Floyd was intoxicated guilty of DUI.
3 Floyd was not truthful in his responses.

CONCLUSION: The cops treated George Floyd appropriately and did so also re Floyd’s companions.

Floyd’s claim to have covid is by itself the end of the murder charge.

Cops used full immobilization techniques on a drugged up guy who claimed to have the scariest disease in the world.

Case closed.

No wonder Keith X Ellison doesn’t want you to see the exculpatory video.

Remember the case Kersey spotlighted where a St. Louis cop or EMT used the fentanyl antidote to revive a dying overdose victim — and the junkie shot him dead on the spot? You cannot be too careful with someone this high, even if the media is going to jump the gun and call it a “murder” or a “killing”

There is a surprising number of Pooja Jhunjhunwalas in the world…

A hell of a lot.

I can’t hear that name without hearing the dulcet voice of Bobby Sherman:

Pooja, Pooja, Pooja, do you love me?
Pooja, Pooja, Pooja, do you care?
Pooja, Pooja, Pooja Jhunjhunwala,
Pooja, Pooja, are you still aware?

I prefer Merritt Corrigan.

Many of Pooja’s menfolk probably do, as well. We can call her “Right Way Corrigan“.

C-O-double-R-I,
G-A-N spells ‘Corrigan’

Very sad but at least three times in that video (@7:54, 8:25, 8:36) he says “I can’t breath” – all of them not being on a ground and having a knee to his neck.

It’s then inconceivable that the cop will be convicted of murder. An acquittal is most likely because the cops just acted by the book. Which means more rioting. Oh, great. Just what we need most right now.

Yeah, George Floyd killed himself.

This video is just sad. It’s not a case of some arrogant punk who thinks “I don’t feel like getting arrested today”. It’s someone freaking out.

Or it’s someone with a criminal history, probation status, or outstanding warrants acting with knowledge that arrest is going to lead to undesired consequences. If he was just “freaking out,” where did he come up with the wits to repeatedly lie to the police to try to get out of the arrest?

Pooja Jhunjhunwala has just announced

Who is this individual?

In recent years, there have been alarming reports of the public education policy of keeping really bad apples in school (you know, as funding tokens) rather than referring them to the juvenile justice system (where they belong). The most notorious token being Nikolas Cruz (the alleged Parkland School shooter).

See Washington Times.

In what way did the knee hold contribute to his death? Autopsy showed no damage to neck etc

When it starts snowing in Hell.

The patron saint of claustrophobic drug addicts?

Steve has written before that various black groups now find them racist for that very reason. Now they want to go back to the old system.

That explains how a handcuffed Floyd ended up on the ground after being in the police car. Why did 4 cops need to sit on him? Why wasn’t the video released immediately?

Look for more citations of Raj Chetty’s work as proving that blacks must be transferred from, say, Brooklyn to western Pennsylvania.

Raj Chetty… What a joke! Like Paul Krugman before him, embraced the Narrative, ignored genetics, [and therefore] spouted nonsense. Probably salivating for that Nobel Prize…

This isn’t Chauvin’s cam, he came on the scene later. But I have to say I’m surprised the initial officer was pointing his gun sideways in the face of Floyd and cursing him out when Floyd hadn’t yet done anything. I thought the call out was for a guy driving high after trying to pass a fake note.

But then I imagine with a guy as big as Floyd they wanted to establish dominance or were genuinely afraid of what he could do with his fists. Still, it’s not going to look good and I can see CNN playing that clip where he jabs his gun while holding it sideways and tells him to ‘get the fuck out of the car’ while Floyd says ‘sorry sir’. If you do those rounds you’re all the time playing Russian roulette for the one time somebody does something.

I had a car stolen earlier this year. The police called me and said they had recovered it. I had no idea where they were and it was 5:00AM and they offered to come get me. They did but made me ride in the back seat of a police cruiser. I’m not 6′ 6″ but its a tight squeeze and I commented that there wasn’t a lot of leg room. The cop chuckled and said ‘going to jail is not meant to be comfortable’ but I thought about this when the Floyd situation happened and I said then I think he WAS claustrophobic and had a panic attack from being cuffed and forced into the cramped back seat of a squad car.

Don’t know what the police can do about it though. They seemed to be as helpful as the situation allowed but the RULES are ‘you don’t talk your way out of an arrest’. No police force can operate like that. The best they can do is call an ambulance if a suspect seems to needs medical attention. Until the EMT take control of the suspect he has to be restrained not ‘let go’. Chauvin wasn’t being brutal he just kept Floyd from thrashing around. Unfortunately it will take a brave jury to acquit him of murder even though he is not guilty of that,

Some cities are paying cops more to wear them. NY is, Cincinnati is, and Boston was looking at it as well. Cop unions are calling them an “encumbrance” which demands more compensation. I don’t see it personally, but cop unions would never lie just to soak taxpayers more. Anyway, this might explain the sudden “acceptance” of the devices.

And since I know Steve loves the idea that bodycams were introduced to record all the epic police brutality but instead are helping cops get exonerated.

2019 saw the release of a film whose premise is an entertaining one, black female cop catches corrupt white cops executing black man, one of them tries to kill her but she escapes with the whole event on her bodycam. But since the footage gets taped over every 12 hours, she has to evade both the cops and the black gangs (Who are in league with the corrupt cops) in a black ghetto where she is seen as the enemy in her attempt to get the footage uploaded.

Locally, BLM has demanded the removal of both dash and body cams. Their claim is that cams are an invasion of privacy. I see their point. I like to keep muh drug fueled, violent rampages private too.

Floyd certainly had enough opioids in his blood to cause death.
In one recent study on 249 Fentanyl deaths they found the mean vitreous fentanyl concentrations were 10.8ng/mL The levels found in Floyd’s blood was 11 ng/mL https://read.qxmd.com/read/29408723/the-distribution-and-redistribution-of-fentanyl-norfentanyl-in-post-mortem-samples

The blood levels of found in Floyd’s blood was slightly above the average found among the Fentanyl deaths in 2018. Hard to see how drugs were not the main cause of his death, especially since he was fighting COVID-19 when he died. His death would have been classified another COVID fatality if the police never tried to arrest him. Doubt he would have survive the day, even if an ambulance brought him directly to the hospital when he left the store with his stolen smokes.

Exceptional restraint and professionalism displayed throughout the video.

If anything, the officers were too patient and should have went up the force continuum much quicker.

Oh boy, the broken windows fallacy in practice…

No evidence Floyd was a junkie, as opposed to a sporadic recreational user who accidentally took a fatal dose.

For example, the autopsy found no injection marks. Nor were there even traces of heroin or oxycodone.

The fact he was driving a Mercedes SUV in fair condition is further evidence he did not have an expensive opiate habit, and therefore a tolerance that would have made the dose he took non-fatal.

There something fishy about the Derrick Chauvin/ George Floyd relationship. That’s why Floyd was pleading for his life.

From what I have been able to find, Floyd had a dose that was within the lethal range, but was on the lower end. So if he was a regular user, it might not have been enough to kill. But, of course, they also found meth, and he had heart disease and tested positive for Covid-19, so there were plenty of complications to make an OD plausible. And in the video he is clearly in the middle of a panic attack and claiming he can’t breathe before they ever put him on the ground and put any pressure on him.
He also had a high fentanyl to norfentanyl ratio. Fentanyl is rapidly metabolized to norfentanyl, so a high ratio suggests a recent dose.

Excitable Delirium Syndrome. Police and emergency medical responders are increasingly aware of and trained to deal with this. It can kill all on its own.

Floyd’s state looks a lot like what cops and ER doctors call “Excited Delirium” Syndrome (EXD). Some medical professionals think it’s not really a thing, but first responders see it enough that they are specifically trained to deal with it. Basically, some combination of stress/drugs/mental illness/police restraint causes the person to become hallucinatory and to expend all of their energy in manic physical resistance, whereupon they can suddenly crash and stop breathing or go into cardiac arrest.

Apparently, treatment includes restraining the person so that they don’t expend all their energy or harm others while flailing around, and keeping them prone to improve breathing. In one of the other video clips, Chauvin is heard to say he is deliberately keeping Floyd on his stomach, presumably because he was following the EXD protocol on him.

Locally, BLM has demanded the removal of both dash and body cams.

They originally adopted body cams after Fergusson at the insistence of BLM and the ACLU, so this reversal of positions shows that keeping a record of the facts must help the officers more.

““Claustrophobia” as he said?” A peculiar case of claustrophobia, which does not affect him at all in his own vehicle, but only when he is asked to sit in a police car. People under arrest say all kinds of BS, thinking it’s going to help them.

It’s now clear that had Floyd not resisted, he would not have gotten the knee on the neck. This is the main message that all people, black and otherwise, should take away from this. If you choose to resist arrest, you will almost certainly fail, and possibly be injured. This risk is easily foreseeable. Resisting lawful arrest is a bad, bad choice. Perhaps black parents should include this lesson in the legendary “Talk” that they supposedly give all their kids.

I think he WAS claustrophobic and had a panic attack from being cuffed and forced into the cramped back seat of a squad car

Watch the video – it wasn’t a squad car, it was an SUV.

They’re bitching that the officer pulling his weapon quickly is evidence of racism.

1 Cop is responding to a serious crime not a cat stuck in a tree.
2 Cop ran the plate before approaching vehicle. Knows the owner is a convicted violent felon with rap sheet. (Home invasion plus battery with a loaded weapon — against a pregnant lady)
3 Cop taps window and immediately the driver starts playing games. (90% of people are right handed — cop approaches from the left side therefore the perp’s right hand must stay visible otherwise cop must assume foul play.)

The real story of the video is that the cops absolutely babied this loser convicted felon scumbag.

My armchair analysis of the situation:

While he did have fentanyl in his system, this was probably not a fentanyl overdose based on the way he was behaving. While he did have a large amount of fentanyl in his bloodstream, people who regularly use opioids rapidly develop tolerance and thus a serum level that would be a lethal dose in a normal person can be perfectly tolerable in a habitual user. People who overdose on fentanyl don’t get agitated like Floyd appearas to, quite the opposite, they get sleepy, breathing slows, then stops, then they die. They don’t have air hunger; in fact the problem with fentanyl is that it takes away air hunger. So someone complaining that they can’t breathe is not consistent with a fentanyl overdose–people overdosing on fentanyl don’t care if they can’t breathe, and that’s the problem.

However the fact that he was complaining that he couldn’t breathe early during the arrest suggests that he was having some other medical event at the time of arrest. This could have been any number of things, some of which can be detected on autopsy (heart attack, pulmonary embolism), some of which cannot (arrhythmia, severe bronchospasm.) Furthermore, these may have been caused by some of the other drugs found in his system (PCP I believe was found?), they may have been exacerbated by it, they may have just happened independently. It’s pretty much impossible to know for certain.

If an individual is having some sort of medical event that causes shortness of breath, the restraint techniques used by the police would almost certainly make the situation worse. Generally you want somebody sitting up so that their weight is off the diaphragm and they can breathe as deeply as possible. However they were clearly not choking him as he could speak, so the trachea wasn’t obstructed. Regardless, it certainly made the situation worse.

However from the police’s perspective, it’s difficult to know whether this guy really is having a cardiopulmonary issue or whether he’s just faking to try to get out of being arrested. Even if they had training, they don’t really have the equipment to figure this stuff out.

I’ve seen a number of – probably too many – videos where the cops are way too patient and restrained when mouth breathing joggers are basically going bonkers, especially verbally. To see them continually and calmly repeat the same instructions over and over again while a chimpout is in progress in maddening to watch.

White trannies seem to be hogging all the airtime. Do blacks even get gender reassignment surgery, or is that a white thing?

Its certainly something the MSM want us to associate with whites. Why the media would want white men to be seen as effeminate and weird is a mystery that I guess will never be solved.

Oh yes, I recall that information.

Whoa! Poojit who?

Methamphetamine

Just declare that Mississippi and Alabama are Wakanda. Then a little population transfer (Whites out, Blacks in). As a bonus, the Blacks get ownership of everything in those states.

“The USG basically carves states out of existing states (i.e. public lands), in violation of Article 4 §3.”

When has this ever happened?

Article 4 §3 says: “New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress. (The next clause is irrelevant.)

Imagine if Americans focused their political outrage and energy to reducing opiates deaths as opposed to the largely imagined deaths of unarmed Black men. This would not be a racially divisive cause, but would benefit Americans of every background.

Except those with the background of the Sackler’s who sell the opiates and feel safer in racially divided country… unfortunately for everyone else their lives are the only ones that actually get to matter.

He seemed paranoid. Do opiates make you paranoid? He had meth in his system too.

He also said he had just lost his mother. A quick google search reveals that his mother died two years ago. Her name was Larcenia. You couldn’t have made this guy’s story up.

Floyd’s claim to have covid is by itself the end of the murder charge.

Cops used full immobilization techniques on a drugged up guy who claimed to have the scariest disease in the world.

Case closed.

What does his having Covid have to do with this?

So is George Schwartz, CNN, MSNBC, and all the other instigators going to pay for all the property damage done throughout our major cities because of the Saint George HOAX?

So how long before another Saint Trayvon or Saint George comes on the scene again?

One thing we know for certain, there will not be any protests manufactured by the media or Georgie Schwartz over all the White victims of Black on White violence that happens daily all over America and Europe.

I don’t see much evidence of him having his wits available. The stuff he’s saying wouldn’t get him out of any arrest. The closest he comes to even attempting that is saying “I ain’t like that”, although it was unclear what specifically he was denying there. At best he might have gotten an ambulance to arrive sooner, which would just result in him being handcuffed to a hospital bed and transferred to jail later.

OTOH the Minneapolis police manual says

“ Once the subject is secured, an officer shall watch for any of the following signs: (06/13/14)
· Significant change in behavior or level consciousness;
· Shortness of breath or irregular breathing;
· Seizures or convulsions;
· Complaints of serious pain or injury; and/or
· Any other serious medical problem.
H. If officers observe any serious medical issue, they shall immediately contact EMS or transport directly to a local hospital. Officers shall also notify a supervisor. ”

http://www2.minneapolismn.gov/police/policy/mpdpolicy_9-100_9-100

So it sounds like if they’d kept him sitting in the cop car, rather than letting him out to lie down as he requested, he might have had better odds of surviving?

It’s not a case of some arrogant punk who thinks “I don’t feel like getting arrested today”. It’s someone freaking out.

Well, yes, he was freaking out. I had a friend who was doing Angel Dust, like a lot of us in 1975. The cops tried to talk to him, and ended up shooting him. He was white. Shit happens all the time. So the real question here is not why Saint George freaked out,… but why the whole fucking world freaked out?

Look for more citations of Raj Chetty’s work as proving that blacks must be transferred from, say, Brooklyn to western Pennsylvania.

Chettymandering.

Sedentary soymalians who play a lot of video games and watch a lot of movies imagine that a knee on the rear to one side of your neck obviously kills you (somehow?).

Might sound funny to some reading this on their verandas in their smoking jackets, but there are people who specialize in this stuff. Ask any experienced submission grappler… Chauvin’s position is NOT any kind of choke and will neither cut off air (the front of the neck) nor bloodflow (the front towards both sides of the neck). Choking a grown man (much less a particularly big and strong one) is harder than it looks and without intent and precise positioning it won’t happen.

You can try the Fetanyl Floyd challenge yourself and worst case you might want to see a chiropractor the next day for an almighty annoying crick.

Ah, I didn’t realize it was meth. Yeah that can cause all sorts of cardiopulmonary issues, obviously. Meth is much worse for your body than fentanyl provided you don’t overdose.

OT: I think this qualifies as a Darwin award. “A 17-year-old activist who called to remove in-school police officers died Sunday morning after he was shot two days earlier.”

What a dumbass.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=activist+killed+chicago&cvid=06a69f78499044908c6e2cc11d420e67&FORM=ANNTA1&PC=DCTS

Here’s another ironic shooting: “Two women who worked with a group called Mothers Against Senseless Killings to try to stop gun violence in their South Side Chicago neighborhood were killed by bullets that police don’t believe were intended for them.”

They were hanging around on a corner with a gang member just out of prison who was the intended target. Bet you 10 bucks the gang member was a relative. What keeps you safe from gun violence is staying the heck away from gang members.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/07/30/chicago-gun-violence-activists-chantell-grant-andrea-stoudemire-shot/1865742001/

Ctrl-f for “corona….”

On Feb. 10, I wrote the following:

Economists have long been puzzled at the lack of working-from-home in contexts where it’s easily possible. It makes office politics harder, but that should be a feature, not a bug. It makes it harder to surveil workers, but many companies make a point not to do that anyway even when it’s not hard to do via remote desktop spying.

If the fears about China lying and asymtomatic carriers are correct and it happens that people end up trapped inside for the ~1.5 years it takes to develop a vaccine, a silver lining might be the normalization of working from home. The gains would be quite significant, especially in counties like the USA with a lot of urban areas favored by corporations that have horrible politics around zoning and crime.

https://alexanderturok.wordpress.com/2020/02/10/will-corona-lead-to-more-working-from-home-long-term/

I didn’t get everything right. I naively assumed we could do better than China, I thought if China was telling the truth that they had the situation under control, we could get it under control too, but I severely overestimated the capacity of my fellow Americans to be reasonable. I didn’t see how many would be willing to whore themselves out. And for what? What’s the dollar value here? It’s like the old joke, man offers a woman a million dollars to sleep with him, she accepts, he then offers her 100$, she says she’s not a whore, and he says, well, you’ve already crossed that line, now we’re just haggling over the price. I don’t know how much it would take to get me to sell out my countrymen, to look the other way at the rivers of blood, because I haven’t received that offer. So maybe I’m being too harsh.

Nor did I foresee that corona would indirectly trigger the crime wave. I knew that there was this Bereau of Land Management stuff bouncing around in these blue urban areas, but I didn’t see the whoring out and the discrediting of the right, which paved the way for the BLM’s ascendency. It does provide a convenient way out for those who were at those truck stops, no longer possess their virginity and want to ignore corona, to point to it and say, ah, this is why there’s this flight away from the cities. And it’ll be true, but it won’t be the whole truth.

Who is this individual?

https://www.zoominfo.com/p/Pooja-Jhunjhunwala/1821378699

https://www.linkedin.com/search/results/people/?firstName=Pooja&lastName=Jhunjhunwala&origin=SEO_PSERP

She is not the only Pooja at USAID, either:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/poojasoodpayeur/

Half The Sky – Pooja’s Story

Their case against Miss Corrigan is un-Merritted!

House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Eliot Engel and 19 other Democrats wrote acting USAID Administrator John Barsa that Corrigan holds positions “in direct opposition to the work USAID supports.”

In another tweet, Corrigan wrote: “The United States is losing ground in the battle to garner influence through humanitarian aid because we now refuse to help countries who don’t celebrate sexual deviancy. Meanwhile, Russia and China are happy to step in and eat our lunch.”

“I’m not cis-anything. I’m a woman.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/03/trump-appointee-merritt-corrigan-fired-from-usaid-amid-anti-lgbtq-tweets.html

No courtroom cameras = they already know these guys walk.
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Oh hey, what are the odds of this, another church lit by an IED:
https://www.patriotledger.com/news/20200803/weymouth-police-fire-investigating-church-fire-as-arson

Wow — that is a really impressive quote. Surely the most perspicacious of the recent cancel victims.

Still one of my favorites…

How many of the people blithely dismissing overdose have read the excellent article which appeared here at Unz a while back and connected overdose symptoms (and symptoms of arrest shock) to Floyd’s behavior?

Gag order.

In Chicago we actually did have police killing people for gangsters. Some of it stemmed from when the Housing Authority had their own police force (created out of perceived neglect from CPD), which was later incorporated back into CPD.
https://theintercept.com/series/code-of-silence/

“People in Hell want ice water, don’t mean shit to me.”–Harlan Ellison on Esquire’s “Frank Sinatra has a Cold” by Gay Talese.

“The stuff he’s saying wouldn’t get him out of any arrest. ”

And yet in the hundreds of arrest bodycam videos online, you’ll see plenty of people bleat and lie and spin BS distractions, thinking they can talk their way out of arrest. It’s actually pretty common; seems to happen regardless of race of arrestee. I’m sure that cops get tired of hearing it so often.

A great example is Rayshard Brooks. He improvised a full half-hour of continuous, pure, dense verbal bullsh!t, before he decided to fight the all-too-patient cops. It’s exhausting and maddening to listen to.

There was morphine in his blood.

Taser not a firearm. And turned diagonally due to the angle/distance he was at.

Blacks are actually overrepresented among homosexual transexuals and underrepresented among autogynephilic transexuals. Understanding the difference is key.

Homosexual transexuals are basically gay men who “become women to attract men.” They adopt an exaggerated form of femininity, to become “more women than the women,” one could see this as an example of the “zeal of the convert.” They are underrepresented among transexual activists, perhaps because their ultimate goal is crypsis, to be undifferentiated from actual women in order to better attract men, which open transexual activism and drawing a lot of attention to transsexuals as a group would interfere with.

Autogynephilics, in contrast, get off on the idea of themselves as women. Many maintain their attraction to women, which actual women don’t usually reciprocate. Thus they place a supreme importance on making women accept them as part of “muh sisterhood,” via PC activism and indoctrination. This leads to an inevitable conflict with certain parts of the radical feminist movement, which is currently gripped by an internal conflict, not unlike that which occurred between racial and religious antisemites in the 19th century.

Basically, the homosexual transsexual is the soldier who wants to make people think he is part of the landscape. The autogynephilic transexual is the Emporer who wants to force people to say he is wearing clothes even though everyone knows he is naked, by threatening to have them fired if they don’t toe the line.

Not the knee so much as the face-down positioning which is not conducive to easy breathing. There’s a video of a white guy who died the same way, but I’m not sure if he was as loaded. I was against charging the cops from the get-go, but I will always wonder if things might have turned out different had they turned him on his side. There were four of them for Christ’s sake.

What’s the lethal does of a guy’s entire stash shoved up his rectum? He admitted he was hoopin’!

Always-on body cams, and GPS-based locaters should be required wear for all government workers, especially LEOs and schoolteachers, during their shifts.

The audio-video and location coordinates should be made publicly available in real-time.

Politicians should also be subject to those regulations, but coverage extended to 24×7.

Thanks for Merritt hot chick pic/links. She looks like the kind that stays sexy for 30 years or more. Say 18-48. (18 is not the actual biological low end number but in the current hysterical feminist era it’s the safe # for publishing.)

I wouldn’t call her a waif type but most of the women who hit the wall in their 40s are waifs. It’s the curvy bombshells who hit the wall around 30. Latin curvy means the wall is coming mid-late 20s. Sorry truth hurts.

Isteve blog is alltime classic but could use more hot chick pics. Who can deny it?

Should have had a follow up as to how the new dwarf – oops, I mean little people – job was going.

When the civilian is that out-of-their mind behind the wheel of a car, I wonder if a better approach would be just to take his keys away and impound his car. When sober, the civilian can go to the police station to get his car, while at the same time he is arrested. In this case, it was for a fake $20 bill. If he doesn’t come to the station, he loses his car. Also, they can get his ID, which can be used to affect a later arrest or apply some other consequence.

Perhaps, the same strategy could have been done for the guy who was passed out at the Wendy’s.

By the way, I’ve seen a few of these videos and the civilians really start to go nuts when they get handcuffed. This article refers to it as “excited delirium syndrome (ExDS)”. There is a video near the end of the article of a black cop with his knee on the neck of white guy, who subsequently dies, presumably of a drug overdose.

At 5:25 a Black police officer uses knee-to-neck restraint against the white suspect. The Black police officer resumes this position seconds later. The suspect dies in this position.”

https://medium.com/@gavrilodavid/why-derek-chauvin-may-get-off-his-murder-charge-2e2ad8d0911

citations of Raj Chetty’s work as proving that blacks must be transferred from, say, Brooklyn to western Pennsylvania

Chetty’d be satisfied with sending them to Scranton Wilkes-Barre. Those Dunder-Mifflin office park types are hoarding privilege.

MERRITT CORRIGAN = NOT GUILTY

George F*cking Floyd = Guilty As F*ck

Yeah, he was panicking most likely due to being way too high. I honestly feel bad for the guy. The panic itself can cause extreme fluctuations of blood pressure and heart rate. Floyd was 46 with serious coronary artery disease.

The man was a mess.

But should we expect cops to be compassionate? Is that what they’re paid for? Sounds cruel but how many people out there would have had compassion for a huge, difficult, middle-aged felon on drugs?

There are real, physical limits to that kind of compassion.

Maybe Floyd deserved it, but “deserve’s got nothing to do with it.” Most of us guys figure that out by a certain point and behave accordingly.

I’m sorry Floyd never got there, but whose fault is that, really?

The sooner there isn’t any reason to keep mentioning G.F. the better. Exonerate Chauvin, spray the people protesting his exoneration with dog piss or gasoline or both, and forget about it.

How ironic if the ambulance driver was a Somalian.

He also said he was “hooping” at one point. Could that have meant the slang term for using crushed drugs up one’s rectum? I originally thought it meant he was playing basketball, but maybe he was being honest,

It was Floyd’s fault. There. I said it so you didn’t have to.

You can see Chauvin arriving on the scene near the end of the video. On the left side.

From the NYTimes:

The filings also indicate that an ambulance, called early in the encounter, did not respond right away and initially went to the wrong spot.

According to the transcripts, Mr. Lane called for an ambulance after Mr. Floyd’s mouth started bleeding. Mr. Lane told investigators it was likely when Mr. Floyd banged his face on the glass inside of the squad car.

Mr. Lane then upgraded that ambulance request, from a less-serious “Code 2” to a more serious “Code 3,” after Mr. Floyd had repeatedly said he could not breathe and the officers discussed whether he could be high on drugs…

After the ambulance arrived, Mr. Lane rode with Mr. Floyd to a hospital alongside ambulance workers and performed chest compressions on him. One worker told Mr. Lane the ambulance waited to respond because it was called in as a “code 2 mouth injury.”

”And then as we’re sitting here, I’m like, ‘Now it says Code 3, I just don’t understand,’” the worker said, explaining what had happened. “And then we figured out where it was so, and then one of your officers was like, ‘Hey, hey ding-dongs, you’re at the wrong spot.’”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/08/us/george-floyd-body-camera-transcripts.html

Nor were there even traces of heroin or oxycodone.

Heroin quickly metabolizes into morphine. Mr. Floyd’s blood concentration of morphine was 86 ng/mL. 200 ng/mL is almost always fatal. In a recent study of Fentanyl overdose deaths, the mean blood concentration was 8.2 ng/mL. My Floyd’s concentration was 11 ng/mL. When the Fentanyl metabolite is added, he started with a concentration of 21 ng/mL. So a blood concentration of Fentanyl of 2.5 times the mean fatal concentration plus a morphine blood concentration of 43% of the almost always fatal concentration, plus meth and traces of THC, all of which combined into a deadly cocktail. Add in the pre-existing heart conditions and recent Covid-19 and Mr. Floyd was a cardiac arrest waiting to happen.

The ambulance went to the wrong location. In the full transcript that was released a while ago, the cops were trying to figure out why it had taken so long. That was the reason.

even the hospital could not save him from this OD. He arrived at the hospital still breathing and died 30 minutes after they took his blood. In addition to having a fatal dose of opioids in his blood he was an elderly man fighting COVID-19 with heart disease.

Could they even convict these cops of police brutality ? for following police procedures against an uncooperative criminal ? Hard to see how they are even charged with manslaughter.

It means you’re excused from having to risk wrestling the guy. Hello?

St. George of the Faux Twenty

Question: “Why did David use a Sling to Slay Goliath?”

Answer: “He didn’t have a .45!”

Perhaps, the same strategy could have been done for the guy who was passed out at the Wendy’s.

Sigh. This, again? Dude, all that discretion was taken away from cops in the 80’s and 90’s by Mothers Against Drunk Driving. Now it’s “blow over 0.08? Car gets towed, driver goin’ to jail” in most states, maybe all. You seriously asking street cops to risk their jobs for some drunk? Really?

Then there’s liability – if the cops in Atlanta let that drunk who passed out in the Wendy’s driveup start walking home and he got clipped by a car in the street, who would be at fault? The cops. The city. The county. CaCHING$!

Maybe that stuff was done like 50 years ago, but it’s all over now, thanks to the well meaning lieberals who decided 30+ years ago that officer discretion was a bad thing. But mandatory arrest? Good thing. Knowing the law is a good thing too…

If you do not like this, contact your state legislature and start working. You will be going up against middle aged women with a lot of time on their hands. Good luck on that.

Know something else? If your local cop shop offers “ride alongs” you should go on one, just to observe what cops do on their shift. See what really happens. It’s like watching COPS only in real time, mostly boring but not always. Drunks…are not as funny in real life as on TV.

Hot mess. This fenteyl guy was high as a kite and resisting arrest during most of the video.

For this we melted down the rule of law in America.

And people think minoritarianism hasn’t been a completely end-to-end disaster for our nation, the West?

I’m surprised you emerged from your bio-containment bubble long enough to comment.

I’m guessing that almost nobody here cares what you have to say. I know for certain that I don’t.

To admit that the ambulance should have come/been notified he was on fentanyl is to admit that drugs were a factor in his death, otherwise why would it be important an ambulance arrived if he was only bleeding due to a cut on his mouth?

We could have used this guy in 1917, 1941, 1950, and 1965. We went through a lot of destruction, instead.

He was on both meth and fentanyl. A stimulant and a depressant taken together is known as a Speedball, and is well known to be quite dangerous.

He was 46 years old. That’s not exactly elderly.

(also @bentillman)

“Heroin quickly metabolizes into morphine”

Codeine, which comes in prescription pills and is sometimes added to counterfeit drugs, also has morphine as a metabolite. In fact, the autopsy uses the phrase “Morphine – Free (Codeine Metabolite).”

We can also rule out day-of-death heroin use, as he tested negative for 6-monoacetylmorphine which is both a unique heroin metabolite and found on its own in most street heroin.

No needle marks or scars and the fact that fake oxycodone pills with fentanyl were all over MN and were the cause of Prince’s OD death, all lead to the strongest inference that he did probably did not have much if any opioid tolerance. It also appears he and his companions, while they had a pipe of some sort in the SUV, did not have any heroin paraphernalia.

“Mr. Floyd’s blood concentration of morphine was 86 ng/mL. 200 ng/mL is almost always fatal.”

It was a urine test. Do they test the same, or do they give urine test results normalized for blood concentration?

A hell of a lot. I prefer Merritt Corrigan.

So do I. She’s a cutie.

Here’s her offense from RegCaesar’s link:

Let me clear: Gay marriage isn’t marriage / Men aren’t women / US-funded Tunisian LGBT soap operas aren’t America First.”

A few true statements. It really is foul that the US having gone off the deep end, uses the tax money of normies to promote deviancy abroad.

Note: Unfortunate some people end up sexual screwed up. Nature ain’t perfect. Some people end up blind or deaf or crippled. Diseases come and go. Nasty stuff happens. But the US shouldn’t be promoting lunacy.

I with SOL. She’s cute and sane. I hope she gets off the political merry-go-round, finds a nice guy and starts having babies. The world will be a better place.

The transcript is a lot more informative than the two videos. The video I didn’t catch hardly any of the conversation with the girlfriend for example.

I think we can all agree that drug abuse of substances like fentanyl continue to rise at an alarming rate. The irony is the drug abuse that set the stage for George Floyd is also helping to fuel the resulting riots… among other bizarre happenings…

Meanwhile, Antifa rioters are finding their demonstrative ways in the suburbs to be semi-problematic, on account of semi-automatics:

https://twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1290473037729587202?s=20

A woman today is expected by society to come to marriage and motherhood in physical and spiritual decline, if ever. This is the life women have been offered by those who would rather us toil away as isolated economic units for faceless corporations, far from the natural pleasures of the domestic, far from the guardianship of a loving husband, and far from the life-giving experience of motherhood.

Wow. That’s highly perceptive for a young woman.

She’s probably a bit old for my son. Some guy will score a sane wife–happy life.

“Pooja Jhunjhunwala”

Wat?

First the Coronapocalypse and then the Summer of George (Floyd). 2020 will be remembered as the year the World went mad.

A few true statements. It really is foul that the US having gone off the deep end, uses the tax money of normies to promote deviancy abroad.

Anyone who can speak the words “appalling sexual perversion” in 2020 is all right by me. Has anyone in the media bothered to ask the Tunisians what they think of this young lady? Or her opinions?

Truman Capote once mocked Diana Trilling for gasping about “the appalling rise in homosexuality” in their day. Now, the Capotes are in charge!

(And probably equipped with bodycams, too, to get back on topic.)

OT

I’ve noticed an inverted Karen syndrome where black people reflexively call #JusticeForSomeBlackPerson press conferences (or Twitter campaigns) at the drop of a hat, rather than use normal channels. This is the black version of the 911 call. In the sense that maybe 911 calls lead to bullets through the head for black people (I don’t believe that), press conferences alleging racism may lead to innocent white people getting in trouble or losing a job.

Here’s one from the Sacramento Bee:

https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/health-and-medicine/article244696017.html

A young black woman (apparently not obese) is six months pregnant and has Covid and abdominal pains. There’s a whole series of allegations, a blood clot, a casesarian while forcibly intubated because she was doing the “resisting arrest” thrashing and cursing dance on the operating table, but she ends up brain dead. The family says she was not properly treated because of racism. Others say she was properly treated for someone with Covid in this new age. To me it seems like it’s somewhere on the nothingburger-to-malpractice spectrum, racism has nothing to do with it, public outrage will accomplish nothing beyond the obligatory black victim Go Fund Me Campaign, and either an internal investigation or a lawsuit is the way to handle it, not press conferences.

My prediction: There will be a medical Ferguson Effect. To the extent that they can, hospitals and doctors will avoid doing anything to black patients that they think will be more likely to get them in trouble. Any decision between not doing anything and doing something will go with the latter if there is deniability. Second and third opinions will be sought, in writing, delaying treatment and driving up costs. Minus 1.5 sigma MCAT black doctors and surgeons will find themselves suddenly swimming in new referrals from white, Jewish, and Asian doctors unloading their hot potatoes onto these “experts” and “specialists.” You wanted doctors “who look like you”? You got it. The entire waiting room also looks like you.

That the USG doesn’t formally declare land within an existing state to be a US territory or a new state (e.g. WV) is just legalistic baloney.

The fact is that Washington (special interests!) controls the land, not the state it’s nominally a part of.

That’s unconstitutional.

A mystery, wrapped in an enigma, surrounded by “more guns caused more murders”:

https://www.vox.com/2020/8/3/21334149/murders-crime-shootings-2020-coronavirus-pandemic

I guess we will never know…

Her nose is fairly wide.

Of course, no matter the rights or wrongs of Chauvin’s actions, no jury will acquit him.

Quite simply, no juror will want the responsibility of the inevitable massive scale riots – and huge death toll – on their conscience.

I said then I think he WAS claustrophobic and had a panic attack from being cuffed and forced into the cramped back seat of a squad car.

Floyd didn’t have a problem being cooped up in a private vehicle just seconds beforehand. In fact, he refused to get out of one,

Have you considered the possibility that maybe Floyd just didn’t want to go to the police station and get booked?

As noted by others, Chauvin arrived after Floyd had pleaded not to be shot. My suspicious mind wonders if this had been a test run of the counterfeit $20. If so, and with Floyd waiting for someone to show up because he knows he screwed up, and who shows up later but someone he knows …

My suspicious mind wonders where the rest of the counterfeit bills are. Or were.

He seemed paranoid. Do opiates make you paranoid? He had meth in his system too.

A lot of people don’t like to be arrested and go to jail. Have you seen the story of the guy who wrestled with police recently at the Wendy’s in Atlanta and was shot by one of the officers?

OT: A science editor named Michael Eisen made fun of roundworms on Twitter. He was accused of microagressing, and one commenter likened his tweet to racism and sexism. One of his critics sent a tweet beginning, “The worm community has the right to be sensitive. . . “

There ought to be a prize for this kind of thing; sort of an intellectual Darwin Award for the craziest accusation of the year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8588031/Scientist-angers-Twitter-accused-sexism-racism-saying-roundworms-useless.html

Even less weight on the diaphragm if the patient is lying down on his back.

The blood levels of found in Floyd’s blood was slightly above the average found among the Fentanyl deaths in 2018. Hard to see how drugs were not the main cause of his death, especially since he was fighting COVID-19 when he died.

Add sickle-cell anemia (people regularly die around George Floyd’s age from it – he had it). Add severe coronary disease; heart disease; high blood pressure. Add his arousal under such conditions. The psychic stress he was under – not only because he he was in serious legal troubles, but also because his image as a man who had found Jesus and becomes orderly and clean was about to disappear like smoke.

As an aside: It can well be that George Floyd’s death was listed as a COVID-19 fatality.

Paul Craig Roberts has the Floyd-details

https://www.unz.com/proberts/should-we-be-protesting-about-george-floyd-or-julian-assange/

This video has been posted to the Reddit hivemind, and obviously ended up on the front page. It has 5.4k comments as I write this.

Surprisingly, the top comments are along the lines of “well, that changes things”, which clearly endangers the media narrative.

One of my favorites there: “Rip the rest of 2020”

When Iran said the US was “The Great Satan” people thought it was funny. Turns out they were right, at least as far as the US state is concerned.

“no juror will want the responsibility of the inevitable massive scale riots – and huge death toll – on their conscience”

Or indeed the threat of riot and murder outside their home – and maybe inside, too.

This could be the equivalent of a ‘railroaded’ jury returning the kind of verdict that ‘society’ wants – you know, just like the juries in the school history books that hanged innocent black men in the 1930s.

2020 won’t have anything on 2021.

No money left to borrow and distribute, COVID vaccines and treatments fail and it mutates, increasingly senile President Biden gets Covid and then covers it up until he’s intubated, Trump self-pardons but is arrested in New York, border caravans of 100,000+ from Central America, Camp of Saints from Haiti, law enforcement budget cuts and strikes.

“ How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked.

“Two ways,” Mike said. “Gradually and then suddenly.”

In retrospect, it will all seem so obvious.

He had sickle cell trait like about 5% of US blacks, not disease. Slightly negative but far leas likely to have killed him than his advanced heart disease.

Officer Evan Rosenthal? Well, there’s one cop who won’t be made world-famous when someone dies in his charge.

The fact he was driving a Mercedes SUV in fair condition is further evidence he did not have an expensive opiate habit, and therefore a tolerance that would have made the dose he took non-fatal.

Didn’t you say you were smart, just the other day?

A great example is Rayshard Brooks. He improvised a full half-hour of continuous, pure, dense verbal bullsh!t, before he decided to fight the all-too-patient cops. It’s exhausting and maddening to listen to.

Should have gone into politics. Particularly in the Current Year.

Oh well. There’s millions more just like him. Only breathing.

Half of Mpls is destroyed and their police dept is to be abolished all because of a LIE: that George Floyd was killed by MPD cops. He is most definitely not a sympathetic character. He’s a loser-criminal-thug whose death should not be mourned by anyone who wasn’t a close loved one.

I’m claustrophobic, as is my mother. We both acquired it in adulthood. I think it’s a heritable genetic trait whose heritability increases as you age, like a lot of things. I used to be able to sleep in a mummy sleeping bag while backpacking. Now it would panic me. My mom can’t close the door on airline toilets and had flight attendants stand guard while she goes, although this pretty much caused her never to fly.

Claustrophobics can panic and hyperventilate and that can create shortness of breath, not enough to kill you I wouldn’t think, but combined with another problem (Floyd had everything from sickle cell to various drugs) it could push you over the edge.

Any sort of constriction can bring on a panic attack to claustrophobics. Handcuffs behind your back in an open space can do it; in front is less of a problem. A big guy like Floyd handcuffed behind his back in the cramped back seat of an SUV?: I can believe he panicked in that situation. He mentioned claustrophobia three times, and one of the officers said he’d run the air conditioning and open the windows. It sounds like that officer knew something about the condition, because heat aggravates it. MRIs have non-metallic air pressure operated fans to blow on patients who are mildly claustrophobic because being cooled off helps. Getting a stomach camera scan or a colonoscopy can trigger claustrophobia because you cannot freely move.

I’m not blaming the officers at all, and I don’t think they should be prosecuted or disciplined. However, this is perhaps another case that demonstrates poor training relating to medical matters. Eric Garner died not from the choke hold, but from “positional asphyxia” after he was on the ground. Like Floyd the autopsy showed zero esophageal crushing.

Obese people especially, lying face down, prone, are unable to breathe when enough pressure is put on their back. The pressure prevents the diaphragm from going up and down, and he can’t inhale and exhale.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/05/opinion/eric-garner-daniel-pantaleo-and-lethal-police-tactics.html

If the cop had simply rolled Garner over after cuffing him, Garner wouldn’t have died. Floyd’s case is more nuanced, given all the ways he was fucked up, but some awareness of genuine claustrophobia should be conveyed to officers in their training. On the other hand, I’m pretty sure that tactical restraint during interrogations is well-known by police as a way to elicit confessions: I would confess to anything if I were about to panic.

As noted by others, Chauvin arrived after Floyd had pleaded not to be shot. My suspicious mind wonders if this had been a test run of the counterfeit $20. If so, and with Floyd waiting for someone to show up because he knows he screwed up, and who shows up later but someone he knows …

My suspicious mind wonders where the rest of the counterfeit bills are. Or were.

Why put so much effort into thinking about something that you only know about because “the media” made great efforts to publicize the event (George Floyd’s death)?

Why not put your efforts into something that you can’t escape whether or not “the media” publicizes it?

For example: the pandemic (AKA sars-cov-2, covid-19, coronavirus, Wuhan Flu, etc.)
What suspicions can one have about the pandemic?
1. It’s appearance coincided with the failure of the Democrats’ impeachment of President Trump.
2. It kills older persons. Thus potential Trump voters are isolated and/or dying while younger Democrat voters are allowed to protest/riot/socialize.
3. The Democrats are gleeful that the pandemic is causing economic woes.
4. The existence of the pandemic was reported on Chinese social media long before it was picked up by “the media.” Why wasn’t “the media” screaming bloody murder that international borders needed to be closed to limit the pandemic back in January/February 2020? For that matter, why the hell are we paying billions for the CIA who either was unaware of the pandemic or did not report it to the President and Congress.
5. Your suspicious mind’s turn now …

Something else to ponder: Why did “the media” show us one side of the George Floyd story then demand a rush to judgement?

In the Floyd video, almost immediately fellow Blacks attempt to interfere in Floyd’s arrest.

The 1851 book Negro-Mania observed the same phenomena almost two hundred years ago now. Officers of the law in Northern US cities would attempt arrests of Blacks for criminal acts, and immediately hordes of fellow Blacks in acts of tribal loyalty would appear and attempt to stop the arrests from occurring and ‘rescue’ their fellow Blacks from the consequences of their law breaking. [Am not referencing here the fugitive slaves, myself, but rather the simple law breakers.]

Nothing much has changed in that regard.

Negro-Mania (1851) – pg 494

Not withstanding the paucity of the numbers of the blacks, they have given the greatest trouble to the authorities of the Northern cities. Insignificant in power and resources, they are still insolent and arrogant to a degree which renders them dangerous to the community. The officers of justice scarce venture to arrest them; and it is a task of great and mortal peril to take a fugitive slave, or a fugitive from justice, from among them. It is unnecessary to refer the reader to the columns of our newspapers, which give, almost weekly, accounts of rescues by the blacks.

https://archive.org/stream/negromaniabeinge00camp/negromaniabeinge00camp_djvu.txt

Don’t be so hard on Keith Ellison. He’s got a lot on his plate, like how to convince the good people of Minneapolis to stop reporting rapes to the police.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/21/minn-attorney-general-keith-ellison-says-he-doesnt-want-police-officers-responding-to-rape-calls/

Minneapolis Uprising Syllabus
https://adambledsoe.wordpress.com/minneapolis-uprising-syllabus/

I am a scholar, teacher, and thinker of the Black Diaspora… You can find my research at: https://spanalumni.academia.edu/AdamBledsoe

“Minneapolis Uprising Syllabus” Tells Why That City Sparked National Rebellion
https://blackagendareport.com/minneapolis-uprising-syllabus-tells-why-city-sparked-national-rebellion

The Russians used Fentanyl to end the Moscow Theatre siege. A person with a lethal dose of Fentanyl can’t stand up, he is pole-axed, or at least unresponsive. Lane and his partner went up to the car with drawn guns; Floyd had started crying and asked them not to shoot him; he was sworn at, had a gun pointed at him then manhandled out his car and handcuffed. Several minutes after he was sworn at, had a gun pointed at him, been manhandled out his car and handcuffed, he was finally told what it was about: he was being investigated for paying with a counterfeit bill. Rather than making a fast getaway, he had been sitting in a vehicle right outside the store, so it is not like the officers could assume he knew what it was about.

George Floyd once he was finally told what he was being accused of started being an asshole to avoid getting taken in, so Chauvin in his wisdom decided to punish him and that is why Chauvin was on top of Floyd. Floyd spoke twenty times while on the ground while Chauvin scoffed that “It takes a lot of oxygen to talk” and told Floyd to stop yelling about how he could not breath .

Here is the key point: Chauvin, as an experienced police officer, knew very well what opioid intoxication looked like. He would have never have done what he did to Floyd if there had been the slightest reason to suspect that Floyd was in on the opioid OD train. In the bodycam Floyd is clearly not a man dangerously affected by whatever Fentanyl he had in his system because he is barely even slurring his words, and certainly wide awake with good muscle tone and balance. He was using every trick in the book while a mission to avoid being taken to jail. Floyd was either yelling and despite being handcuffed no-hands grappling using his size and strength to stay tight and tall and noisy in order to stop the cops from getting him into their vehicle, or Floyd was dying of a Fentanyl overdose. Not both.

I think it’s a combination of all those factors: fear of the consequences of his criminal activity, resulting anxiety, and perhaps a drug-fueled freakout.

Of course, no matter the rights or wrongs of Chauvin’s actions, no jury will acquit him.

Quite simply, no juror will want the responsibility of the inevitable massive scale riots – and huge death toll – on their conscience.

It wouldn’t be the first time an innocent man was convicted in order to prevent civic unrest, and I don’t mean the second trial of the Rodney King arresting cops:

So the chief priests and the Pharisees called the council together and said, “What are we doing? For this man is performing many miraculous signs. If we allow him to go on in this way, everyone will believe in him, and the Romans will come and take away our sanctuary and our nation.”

Then one of them, Caiaphas, who was high priest that year, said, “You know nothing at all! You do not realize that it is more to your advantage to have one man die for the people than for the whole nation to perish.”

If he had ODed 20 minutes earlier, he would have saved hundreds or thousands of lives and billions of dollars in property damage and misdirected funds.

“the Derrick Chauvin/ George Floyd relationship.”
There was no relationship; the “fishy factor” was added by conspiracy theorists.

I agree with this comment.

But I do think that what’s really bothering Americans is an uneasiness with Diversity/Modern America ====> cops with guns.

The first part of the video, where the cop points the gun at George Floyd when he’s in the car…yes George was acting strange and could easily have pulled a weapon, and shot at the cop….

The cop did nothing wrong.

But….

I think Americans are getting frightened. Diversity and life and competition…all of this is getting to white Americans.

This fear of ‘something that cannot be named’ is causing Lib Gentile Americans to lose it. So they lash out.

Libs can’t control minorities.

Cops, being public servants, can be controlled.

It’s missplaced, it’s misguided, but it is rooted in a genuine feeling of unease of living in Modern Diverse America.

Liberal whites need to learn to articulate their True Feelings for once, instead of taking it out on cops who are the first line enforcers against the negative effects of diversity.

It would be nice for a white liberal to say ‘I’m scared of being pulled over in traffic, having a bad day off my anti-depression meds as I deal with my divorce, and having a cop point a gun to my head.’

It might make a difference to twelve good men and true.

Look for more citations of Raj Chetty’s work as proving that blacks must be transferred from, say, Brooklyn to western Pennsylvania.

Already happening in Illinois between Chicago and Downstate cities. https://www.wglt.org/post/12-injured-mass-shooting-peoria-riverfront#stream/0

My bio-containment bubble has been equipped with internet commenting functionality for months now.

I’m guessing that almost nobody here cares what you have to say. I know for certain that I don’t.

I’m guessing that our host privately agrees with my comment.

Video/audio shows the officer’s knee on the neck was not causing Floyd’s airway to be blocked. It was an immobilization technique not a choking technique.

The purpose of the knee on the side of the neck is not to block the airway, but to reduce the flow of blood through the carotid artery and thereby induce unconsciousness. If the pressure is sustained after the person has lost consciousness, it is likely to kill him.

Of course, I do not know whether Floyd died for this reason, or from something else – drugs, panic attack, or whatever. However, I would have expected the officers to wait until Floyd passed out, and then pick him up and put him in the car. Prosecutors will want to know why this did not happen.

In a sane world – unfortunately, that train left the station ages ago. In the year of covitardation and negro worship, chauvin doesn’t stand a chance. A sub- moronic, drug addled criminal jogger whose body was paraded around several cities and buried in a gold casket. Murals of that ugly mug everywhere and now a holographic tour. No chance the narrative will be changed just because of some inconvenient video and transcripts.

Relax. It’s just the flu, bro.

A few true statements. It really is foul that the US having gone off the deep end, uses the tax money of normies to promote deviancy abroad.

I’ve seen this up close and in person at a US embassy, led by a woman that could have been Hillary’s sister.

It really is quite appalling to see our tax dollars at work in this fashion.

The police seemed rather professional. They didn’t seem startled or overly aggressive.

That’s why this story was always so stupid. Originally, it was about an evil cop who just decided to kill this poor black man for no reason. And yet, he didn’t shoot him or punch him or hit him with his nightstick or tase him or anything. He just kneeled on him.

Have you ever heard of another case where someone who was determined to kill someone else did it by just kneeling on him, but did nothing else to him? I haven’t.

So it was always completely idiotic. But then, look at the kind of people who believed it.

The circus is in town?

Her nose is fairly wide.

U WOT M8

I’d re-write Dostoevsky’s Crime and Punishment with an African-American lead character, but I don’t know how much of a market there is for a one chapter book where he kills the old lady, and doesn’t think anything about it until confronted, when he simply says, “Bitch had it coming.”

leas likely to have killed him than his advanced heart disease.

The autopsy didn’t say he had advanced heart disease. It said he had atherosclerosis. That’s a very common condition for men in their 40’s and older. The autopsy didn’t quantify the level of atherosclerosis, nor did it blame his death on heart disease or heart attack.

Libs can’t control minorities.

Cops, being public servants, can be controlled.

I think the first part is more unconscious – which makes the second part even more desirable.

Plus there is this: The video shows somebody while dying to the whole world. This is such a freakingly intimate act – people just aren’t prepared to deal with such a raw experience, which is new to almost all of them.

Then there is this. a sentence by the old writer & muser Johann Wolfgang von Goethe from the appendix of his Maxims and Reflections:

He who despairs is being forgiven everything.

The fact he was driving a Mercedes SUV in fair condition is further evidence he did not have an expensive opiate habit, and therefore a tolerance that would have made the dose he took non-fatal.

You clearly live in the burbs.

Black men will not have a penny in their pocket but will still drive around in a BMW or classic car and have brand new $200 shoes. Having an addiction doesn’t change this.

It’s just something you aren’t supposed to talk about in liberal company. You can be ex-communicated for pointing out the irony of 30k cars in a low income apartment complex.

If Minnesota’s smart, they’ll hold the Chauvin trial in mid January to discourage the dindus from taking to the street.

Knee had nothing to do with it.

According to a University of Minnesota study in 2019, “positional asphyxia” is not a proven cause of death.

The conclusions of the study are enough to exonerate the officers from a murder charge:

“Our data do not support the hypothesis of restraint asphyxia.”
“When a cause of death cannot otherwise be determined, positional asphyxia is often suggested […] Proponents of this theory often hypothesize that subjects restrained prone, with applied downward weight force, hobbled, or in maximal restraint (restrained on their stomach with hands and wrists secured to the handcuffs) were unable to breathe because the position caused chest wall and abdominal restriction that prevented adequate expansion of the lungs. Subsequent rigorous scientific studies, however, using sophisticated measurements have debunked the positional or restraint asphyxia hypothesis because the prone position does not produce respiratory compromise.”
“To date, none of the published human clinical studies, or epidemiological studies, support the hypothesis that the pronerestraint position causes or contributes to ventilatory compromise”
“DiMaio and DiMaio observed that acceptance of the concept of positional asphyxia as the cause of death in restraint associated deaths often involves the suspension of common sense and logical thinking. Further, other researchers have commented that positional asphyxia is an interesting theory unsupported by the experimental data. Nor are significant changes in cardiovascular measures found.”

Emphasis on “fairly” as the width of this fair-haired cutie’s proboscis is not in the same galaxy as the width of fentanyl Floyd’s or that of Georgia’s Godzilla of Grievance, stout Stacey.

Before it was taken off the air, I used to watch Live PD. I was amazed at how many people, particularly blacks and women, were routinely argumentative, aggressive and disrespectful to the cops.

It’s refreshing to see. White men should stop treating cops deferentially. Doesn’t mean you have to get in a fight, but it doesn’t mean you owe the cop courtesy either.

From what I have been able to find, Floyd had a dose that was within the lethal range, but was on the lower end.

Nope. Femoral blood levels were middle range for the population of overdose deaths. (Whatever dose he took was sufficient to induce that in his very large body).

The forces behind the riots were just waiting for an incident to happen to serve as their excuse. If it had not been this one, there would soon have been another.

The ultimate complaint is that a deplorable (Chauvin et al) has authority over persons of higher status. Black chauvinists think they are the persons of higher status. Gentry liberals think that, as morally excellent people, they assign status and their black clientele have higher status than the deplorables who make up the police force.

While he did have fentanyl in his system, this was probably not a fentanyl overdose based on the way he was behaving. While he did have a large amount of fentanyl in his bloodstream, people who regularly use opioids rapidly develop tolerance and thus a serum level that would be a lethal dose in a normal person can be perfectly tolerable in a habitual user.

You’re confounding the dose with the blood level.

Given the evidence that has come out, doesn’t the prosecution now have an ethical obligation to drop the case, or at least to drop the murder charge? Then it would never go to a jury.

It’s refreshing to see. White men should stop treating cops deferentially. Doesn’t mean you have to get in a fight, but it doesn’t mean you owe the cop courtesy either.

Why would they do that? White men are naturally civil towards the police and it drives the left crazy since it makes these types of videos all the harder to deal with. For most White men it would take additional effort to be uncivil towards the police.

If White men acted like this all the time then the left would be relieved as they could show common equivalency.

There is really nothing that drives the left mad like White men being themselves and not apologizing for it. It makes a mockery of the left’s constant demand for multi-million dollar programs to fight crime when there are actually remote White rural areas that actually don’t have law enforcement because it isn’t needed.

Like the medieval practice of trying and executing an animal for its “crime” against a human. Intent of the accused is not an issue. The only issue is something happened for which punishment must be meted out. A primitive notion of justice.

Or perhaps closer to having your heart ripped out to satisfy the blood lust of an Aztec priesthood and the gods they claim to be serving. Nothing personal, pal. Gods gotta be appeased. Nothing personal, Officer Chauvin, hope you understand our position.

Only Black Lives Matter caravan attempts to reach Seattle PD chief’s house in the countryside, engages in intimidation of all the neighbors. Are we having fun, yet?

https://lynnwoodtimes.com/2020/08/02/hundreds-of-blm-supporters-storm-snohomish-county-neighborhood-to-protest-at-seattle-police-chief-carmen-bests-home/

A crowd of about 200 persons, mostly white men and women in their twenties, were dressed in black with masks and black hoods and carried signs that read “Black Lives Matter.” Black Lives Matter protestors shouted profanity and insults at neighbors, took license plate information on vehicles, took pictures of homes, and asked little kids who lived in the neighborhood what schools they attended.

Other BLM protesters carrying large duffle bags attempted to make their way to Chief Best’s private residence. When confronted by neighbors to show the content of the large duffle bags, protesters refused to cooperate. There were no reports of any physical altercations.

A community resident and witness to the protest shared some of the tactics used by BLM protestors.

“They were very organized. They had radios, talking to each other. They had numbers they used to decal all their cars for who knows what. So, they were identifying all their vehicles individually by number. They came with a mission…They were out here intimidating us.”

iSteve asked how a potential President Biden would turn this machine off. Why would Biden or his handlers do that? It’s obviously a useful tool for keeping people in line. A lot like the Ku Klux Klan, in fact.

how is a gag order on a defendant constitutional? Public opinion is the reason Chauvin is in jail and on trial. The fact that the trial is not held immediately kind of proves that public opinion will sway the jury. The defendant has to be allowed to make his case to the public since it is the public’s threat of violence that will compel the jury to convict him.

I can see a Twelve Angry Men sequel here — as Henry Fonda struggles to convince 11 sassy black women with hair issues

Look for more citations of Raj Chetty’s work as proving that blacks must be transferred from, say, Brooklyn to western Pennsylvania.

This has been going on for years and without Raj Chetty.

It’s done through the social workers.

The liberal states try to push their baby mommas into rural states on the promise that there are more benefits due to less demand. The social workers handle the details of the move.

So they end up packing low-income government housing that is really intended as temporary shelter for rural Whites. The mass stabbing that happened in Boise is connected to this type of welfare exporting.

Imagine PJ O’Rourke or Ann Coulter getting ready to call their new book Negro Mania— and getting a memo from Legal warning that some guy from 1851 already has the rights

I have to relate this anecdote from a local school since you’re my new favorite commenter.

Mind you, this isn’t about a shooting. It’s about Kindergarten.

A friend, who is now homeschooling his kids, had his daughter in a local “good” school for Kindergarten. Among the kids were a handful of absolute monsters who wouldn’t or couldn’t cooperate with basic instructions. He said a couple of them would curse at the teacher (he volunteered occasionally). The teacher spent all her time and energy trying to control the beasts and had almost nothing left for the compliant majority of students. None of the kids learned a thing. When the virus hit and the schools closed in March, he started teaching his daughter at home. She learned more in 6 weeks with him than in the previous 6 months.

I confess: I don’t want the PS’s to open up again.

Black chauvinists think they are the persons of higher status. Gentry liberals think that, as morally excellent people, they assign status and their black clientele have higher status than the deplorables who make up the police force.

The limousine liberals are trying to cast blacks as a sort of racial samurai in their prog utopia, and the blacks seem more than happy to inhabit that role.

Ambulances get lost? What, they don’t have GPS and others tracking their whereabouts? Heck, FedEx knows where all its packages are, and I know where my teen daughter is all the time.

Thanks, that’s the best summation Ive seen.

“ The autopsy didn’t quantify the level of atherosclerosis”

It did.

It actually said he had ‘severe’ ‘coronary artery disease’. No, that’s not the norm for men of 46.

BTW, his father died at the age of 53. Good health doesn’t run in the family.

That would be a very dangerous argument for a trial defence attorney to make considering how long it follows the duration of choke applied had been. Chauvin was hands-free sort of squatting beside/ half kneeling on Floyd for almost 10 minutes total, and minutes after he stopped moving and talking. If Chauvin were to admit he had been deliberately applying a choke during that time, he would be incarcerated until the middle of the century.

… knee on the side of the neck is not to block the airway, but to reduce the flow of blood through the carotid artery and thereby induce unconsciousness.

Might work if you mashed his neck into the pavement hard enough to cut off the other carotid artery (there is one each side of neck) although there would be a huge risk of damage to the cervical spine. If you were really trying to choke out someone lying like Floyd was, that would a very heterodox way to do it. Moreover, being choked into unconsciousness is not equivalent to being given a very strong sedative, in medical circles it has long been recognized to be much more a brain trauma equivalent to a boxing KO.

The transcript is a lot more informative than the two videos. The video I didn’t catch hardly any of the conversation with the girlfriend for example.

What did you find informative about the transcript? How did it influence your perceptions and understanding?

of blacks from blue to red areas, all in the name of Fighting Segregation and Punishing Hateful Whites.

Again, I ask you to think. I realize it’s hard, but try.

How many poor blacks are there TO move? Art Deco – are you there? You always have the numbers.

Well, since AD isn’t here to give the numbers, I’ll do it myself. There are 22 million blacks in the lower 50% of their population.

Distributing the lower 50% of the black community throughout Red America will dilute their political power, which is based on population concentration and density.

Also, blacks now have a lower than replacement level TFR.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/226292/us-fertility-rates-by-race-and-ethnicity/

With respect, ethical shmethical. I have been an attorney for many years. The shenanigans that Woke district attorneys are openly indulging in now would have brought condemnation on them from the members of the bar, and the local media.
Not any more.

Wasn’t a Rolls-Royce seen being used in a recent looting video?

It’s just something you aren’t supposed to talk about in liberal company. You can be ex-communicated for pointing out the irony of 30k cars in a low income apartment complex.

There’s a saying about not trusting someone who’s car is worth more than their house. Somewhat blunted by inflated property values.

Good health doesn’t run in the family.

It staggers along.

I didn’t mean that Whites should go out and commit crime. Nor did I mean that Whites should become rude or aggressive with the police, which is never a good idea.

Do what leftists and activists do and make their job as difficult as possible. Beyond showing them ID, you owe a cop nothing. Throughout the interaction keep asking “Am I under arrest?” “Am I being detained?” “Am I free to go now?” Keep silent beyond that and demand a lawyer immediately.

Way too many Whites think it’s Leave it to Beaver and the friendly neighborhood cop is just doing his job. That ship sailed decades ago and now cops are just the teacher’s union, only with guns.

Never, ever trust a cop.

Respect the gun, not the man.

That doesn’t look like a taser. That’s a gun with a flashlight underneath the barrel. At least it looks that way to me.

Keep in mind someone is making lots of money repairing windows. It’s just a general financial/economic loss to society.

So then where are you parking your assets, Mr. Lot? Don’t be coy…

A distinction without a difference. I guess I could change this to ‘a serum level that would correspond to a lethal dose in mcg per unit body weight, given the volume of distribution of fentanyl, Mr. Floyd’s age and sex, and the typical rate of metabolism of fentanyl’ but this isn’t pharm 101.

In any case it’s neither the dose nor the serum level that is lethal, but the physiologic effects, which are imperfectly correlated with the serum level, which in turn are imperfectly correlated with the dose.

However dose is very easy to measure quantitatively, serum level more difficult, end-organ effects very very difficult (difficult to measure quantitatively, although qualitatively not so hard), so usually people discuss ‘lethal doses’ and ‘effective doses’ when in reality those are just crude population measures. In this particular case my point is that we don’t know the dose of fentanyl, the serum levels suggest a high dose was given, but based on the video evidence it doesn’t appear that the physiologic effects associated with fentanyl overdose were present, so there’s not much point in trying to argue that he took 500 mcg of fentanyl versus 50–whatever he took he could handle it, he clearly wasn’t acting like a fentanyl OD.