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From The New Yorker:

Our Father’s Body
An Egyptian refugee, the construction of whiteness, and what the U.S. census leaves out.

The author

By Pauls Toutonghi

Pauls Toutonghi is the author of two novels and the nonfiction book “Dog Gone.” He teaches at Lewis & Clark College.

April 1, 2020

Even in death, I was unable to forgive my father for the way he’d turned against his heritage, fallen under the thrall of right-wing demagogues on radio and television.

It was December, 2017. Our father’s body lay just a few rooms away, down the carpeted stairs of the funeral home, beyond a sequence of quiet hallways and a series of unlocked doors. We’d gathered, his five children and his wife of forty-nine years, at Harvey Funeral Home, in Seattle, to complete official paperwork: the State of Washington’s death worksheet. It seemed like a simple thing. While the embalming technicians labored in the basement, replacing our father’s blood with formaldehyde and methanol and water, we had twenty-three boxes to mark on a form.

We filled out our father’s name, his age, his county of death, his Social Security number. And then we reached Question 11: decedent’s race.

“White,” one of my sisters said. She said it quickly, as if it were a formality, a diversion from our steady progress toward Question 12: Was the decedent ever in the U.S. armed forces?

His father

Wait, I thought. What part of our father—who was born, in 1932, in Cairo, Egypt—was white? His skin, for most of his adult life, was a dusty brown.

Perhaps, perhaps not. Here’s his father’s obituary photograph.

When he spoke English, his Egyptian accent, with its rounded vowels and guttural rhotics, classified him as foreign-born. Every night of my childhood, he sang me lullabies in Arabic (Mama zamanha gaya) and French (Malbrough s’en va-t-en guerre), lullabies that he remembered from his own childhood, in North Africa.

“I’m pretty sure that nobody ever thought he was white,” I said.

We looked at the form again. My mother pointed to its text. “Check one or more boxes to indicate what the decedent considered himself to be,” she said. She smoothed the fabric of her jeans. The gold tassels of her rings struck each other as she worked her hands back and forth. “It’s what he thought he was,” she said. “Isn’t it?”

I found it difficult to look at my mom. “Maybe he would have wanted to be listed as Arab-American,” I said.

Even as I said it, I knew I was lying. Although Egypt had declared its independence from the United Kingdom ten years before my father was born, the vestiges of British and French colonial life had marked his adolescence. In Cairo, he’d attended Le Collège de la Sainte Famille, a French-language school run by Jesuits, and this had given him a sense of apartness from the society in which he lived. He was from a branch of the family that had converted to Catholicism in the nineteenth century, and he grew up within a narrative of cultural difference.

His paternal grandfather was a Melkite Catholic born in Aleppo, Syria, who moved to British-ruled Cairo when the Ottoman Empire fell apart in 1918.

He was exceptional in Egyptian society, the priests of Sainte Famille told him. Specially chosen. Dad’s experience was not unusual. When Jean-Paul Sartre said that colonialism “selected adolescents, branded the principles of Western culture on their foreheads with a red-hot iron, and gagged their mouths with sounds, pompous and awkward,” he was largely pointing to the upper-middle class of North Africa. “Every effort is made to bring the colonized person to admit the inferiority of his culture,” Frantz Fanon warned, at the Congress of Black African Writers, in 1959. He might as well have been talking about my family.

In other words, his father’s background was similar to Edward Said’s, but unlike Said, his father appreciated the country that gave him refuge.

The truth was this: I was angry at my father. I was unable to forgive him, even in death, for the way he’d turned against his heritage, fallen under the thrall of right-wing demagogues on radio and television. I couldn’t forgive the horrible things he’d taken to saying about the Middle East, the hatred he’d directed at Muslims, in particular—posting on his anonymous Twitter account, tweeting and retweeting the sentiments of xenophobes and bigots.

Sitting in the funeral home, we turned the question over and over. Everyone was sad, and everyone was grieving in complex ways. But I held my ground. And so, eventually, we checked the box marked “other.” And on the line beside “other,” Tom Harvey, the funeral director, wrote a single, hyphenated word: “Arab-American.”

My eyes filled with tears, which I held back. That wasn’t really who my dad had been. I was the one who’d taken Arabic classes as an adult. I was the one who’d pushed Dad to travel with me and my sister to Egypt, so that he could show us the place he’d come from, the place where he’d spent the first fourteen years of his life. I was the one who’d discovered an unexpected allegiance to Arabic culture during a year living in Morocco. I was the one who’d recited the shehadah before an adul, and formally converted to Islam. Ashhadu alla ilaha illa Allah, I’d repeated three times, wa ashhadu anna Muhammad rasul Allah. My family tree was full of Muslim names; during the Franco-Ottoman alliance, which lasted centuries, the family had been both Christian and Muslim. As I spoke the shehadah, a distinct feeling opened up inside of me—a feeling of return. It was not a feeling, I knew, that my father would have accepted, or understood.

Just weeks before my father died, I’d had a nasty argument with him, on the phone, about racial categories in America. I had called him when I’d heard that the 2020 census would likely include a Middle Eastern/North African designation. It was something that Arab-American activists had been advocating for more than two decades. I don’t know what I was thinking, calling Dad to tell him this. It was an obvious mistake, something I sensed as soon as I broached the subject.

“You know what this is,” he told me. “It’s the beginning of Sharia law. It’s so they can take over this country. It’s the first step.”

I was driving and talking on a headset. I could imagine where he was—the only place he went these days—sitting in one corner of his reclining leather couch, wearing an ice pack on his swollen feet, watching Fox News. Diagnosed with congestive heart failure earlier that year, he was struggling even to stand up and walk to the kitchen. As he talked, I could hear the mossy purr of his oxygen machine.

“Never mind,” I said. “I shouldn’t have called.”

“You want them to track you, I guess,” he said. “Maybe that’s O.K. for you, then. You and your friends in the Democrat Party. But I don’t want to be tracked.”

We continued arguing. I said that all the signature legislative achievements of the nineteen-sixties—the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, the Fair Housing Act—were enforced using numbers from the census. The Equal Credit Opportunity Act, the Home Mortgage Disclosure Act, hundreds of millions of dollars of Community Development Block Grants—they all depended on these numbers. Didn’t he want to be counted?

Sharia law, he said again. “Just you wait and see.”

I could hear how hoarse his voice was; he couldn’t seem to clear his airway to breathe. We were on the phone for a few more minutes. I arrived at work.

“I’ve got to go,” I said.

“O.K.,” he said. “Love you, darling.” And then he hung up.

It was the last conversation we ever had. …

My family came to America two years after that ruling—eight out of a hundred lucky Syrians granted admission as Quota Visa recipients in 1946. Legally speaking, my father was white; his presence in the country depended on it. He also was deemed “stateless,” though he wasn’t, and he was marked down as speaking English, though he didn’t. … It’s not surprising, then, that he loved to tell the story of his transformation into an American, of his eventual oath of citizenship, which, according to a well-worn family story, he took from Marilyn Monroe, of all people, at the Hollywood Bowl, in 1949. …

Perhaps it’s also not surprising that my father married two women of European descent: his first wife, an Irish-American, and then my mom, a Latvian refugee. In his children, he created what he yearned to be. Thrown into a crowd of white Americans, each of us could pass for Sons and Daughters of the American Revolution.

Perhaps the single most powerful categorization tool at work in the United States is the Office of Management and Budget’s Directive No. 15. It determines the work of every federal program that is engaged with statistical activities. In May, it will be, like me, forty-three years old, having been created by the Ad Hoc Committee on Racial and Ethnic Definitions, in the late seventies. It divides the nation into five basic racial groups: black, white, American Indian/Alaskan native, Asian, and native Hawaiian/other Pacific islander. That’s it. Hispanic is rejected as its own distinct racial category, and is treated instead as an ethnicity, a subdivision within the other races. The directive was revised, slightly, in 1997; a note was added stating that “race and ethnicity may be thought of in terms of social and cultural characteristics as well as ancestry.” But the categories remained monolithic. Why do we still use such antiquated racial categories?

… But, since my father died, I have found myself wondering about the rage I saw in him as he grew older, and whether it might have reflected the refusal of his adopted and beloved country to see him.

The author is enraged that his father suffered the hateful ignominy of going through life being officially considered a white man … Granted, his father didn’t seem to mind, of course, but still … consider the hereditary shame that is inflicted upon poor Professor Toutonghi of being officially 100% white in America.

By the way, here’s an earlier New Yorker article by the same author:

Of all the family stories about my grandfather Philip Toutonghi’s time in North Hollywood, one pains me the most. In 1951, after months and months of polite but dogged pursuit, he managed to get a meeting with the actor Danny Thomas. Thomas was born Muzyad Yakhoob Kairouz in 1912, to Maronite Catholic parents from Bsharri, Lebanon. My grandfather was born Philippe Elias Tütünji in 1898, to Melkite Catholic parents in Aleppo, Syria. At the time, the two men attended mass at the same Catholic church, in Los Angeles. But while Thomas was starring opposite Doris Day in the Michael Curtiz-directed Warner Brothers musical “I’ll See You in My Dreams,” my grandfather was sweeping the floors at Universal Studios.

But Danny Thomas couldn’t make it to the meeting, so his grandfather’s career as an English-language movie musical comedy lyricist was still-born. (He’d written poetry in French in Aleppo.)

Anyway, the relevant point would seem to be that in 1952, American audiences didn’t have much of a problem with seeing the Lebanese-American Thomas in a movie playing the husband of Doris Day.

 
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  1. Sickening. He has to go back….

    • Replies: @anon

    Sickening
     
    What kind of dickhead gives their sick father grief like that?
  2. Yes, it’s truly deplorable behavior, probably a very naughty child, but NATIONAL NEWS? Really? I know it’s Not Who We Are, but isn’t this giving the kid exactly what he wants??

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    Also, I hope whoever wrote and then whoever approved that headline got promptly fired for the microaggression of not capitalizing the word "black."

    Also, typing a word into a chat box and pressing 'send' is now hacking?
  3. “I’m pretty sure that nobody ever thought he was white,” I said.

    Let me guess, the author was Literally Shaking at this point?

    Sorry, but this entire post is major Corvinus Bait.

    • LOL: TWS
    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
    ...major Corvinus Bait.

    That's Corvinus-19 to you, buddy.
    , @fish

    Sorry, but this entire post is major Corvinus Bait.
     
    Corby will drop by momentarily to tell you in detail how this post is not Corby bait.
    , @OscarWildeLoveChild
    I couldn't bother to read the guys drivel but usually, as you suggest, such articles have similar phrases and passages, things like:

    1. In the "complicated" area of my peoples/ mother/father's ancestry (translation: we are considered white around the globe, but I want to make it sound like there are dark, one-drop secrets, that we all navigated in order to succeed.) As the writer, I want to illustrate it, yet keep it ambiguous enough that the reader can never reconcile my current circumstances (say, a RICH WHITE CUBAN), with what I am discussing, so they assume the worst, of history, of whites...of my made up story of my family.

    2. "I was literally shaking..." Usually a passage used after an oblique reference to an alleged racist (white person) of such a fittingly composite nature as to be questionable as to their actual existence. Feminists were the first to do this, back in the 80s...they were constantly running into old grannies asking them when they were going to get married and pump out a child, or men at work that mistook them for the secretary instead of the director of the surgery department, etc etc.

    Example: "I stood there at the gate, watching this white man, in a short sleeve white shirt, and tie, some weird mix of Rush Limbaugh and a Wendy's manager, tell my mother that only White Aryans could check in two bags on this flight...as country music blared in the background of the airport loudspeakers, I was was literally shaking..."

    3. Passages about breathing deeply, drawing a breath: These passages usually hearken back to Maya Angelou type writing, which is supposed to capture a moment of a "person of color" collecting their strength and determination to overcome prejudice, racism, etc.

    Example: I took a deep breath, determined not to let this airline "gate manager" violate my black/brown/white female body or that of my mother's dignity...my very not-white great great great grandmother told us (insert another cliche story)...

    It's the same narrative in all these.

  4. The father sounds like an OK guy – someone you would be happy to have a beer with.

    What a sad fate for him, that his son turned out to be a miserable, whining POS.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    I feel sorry for the father that he has a mentally ill son.

    Seems like the daughter is normal.

    , @International Jew
    I wonder if his father read iSteve and if so what his handle was.
    , @JackOH
    Good comment, RoM.

    Toutonghi the lesser holds an associate professorship at Lewis and Clark, plus his writing is commercially successful, and he has time for this whiny, self-stroking horsepuckey. His piece is big-time dishonest, bad-faith victimization narrative that may be used to shield him from envious precariat colleagues who are working on year-to-year contracts. Publicly he works the oh-the-suffering racket; privately, he happily cashes his salary and royalty checks.
    , @Jim Don Bob

    What a sad fate for him, that his son turned out to be a miserable, whining POS.
     
    Come to the richest freest most welcoming country the world has ever seen, get a decent job, and all you can do is bitch about how that country and its people has failed you.

    STFU or GTFO.
  5. So, he was a Christian? So he was a Middle-Easterner who nursed hatreds of other Middle-Easterners of different religions. Sounds very Middle-Eastern. In what way had he “turned against his heritage”?

    • LOL: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @BB753
    It was his son who turned against his Christian heritage by converting to Islam.
    From Egypt to Turkey, Islam is the oppressor against Christian minorities who date back before Islam even existed, and the former French and British rulers, their protectors.
    Not surprisingly, the nominally Christian USA had turned their back on them. My theory is that the USA was founded as an implicitly anti-Christian nation, as befits its masonic founding fathers.
    , @Bugg
    As per his son, despite his family's 2+ centuries Catholicism and having been persecuted by Islam in 2 countries, his dad should have embraced the very culture which tormented them. How dare he become American. What a pathetic victim; what a loser.
  6. When whiteness is finally eradicated from this nation, guys like this will be in charge. Good luck.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    This despicable clown is a blue-eyed White with a White Arab father and a Latvian mother. When Whites are a despised and marginalized minority, he’s going to have a lot of luck trying to pull a Rachel Dolzeal and pass as a non-White.
  7. Every effort is made to bring the colonized person to admit the inferiority of his culture

    Whitey is reminded every day of the inferiority his culture. That must mean . . .

    • Agree: Mr McKenna, UK
  8. @MattinLA
    Sickening. He has to go back....

    Sickening

    What kind of dickhead gives their sick father grief like that?

    • Agree: sayless, TWS, UK
    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    What kind of dickhead gives their sick father grief like that?
     
    Answer: Someone who wants to get published in the New Yorker by virtue signaling that, in the Current Year, he prefers a (presumably fake) identification with Islam to any identification with the hated American "white privilege."

    There should be a special place in hell for anyone who would publicly trash his dead parent's memory for his own career advancement.

    Frankly, I've always hated personal essays about one's parents. They can't possibly be objective or accurate, anyway. Just keep it between you and your psychiatrist. Leave your dead parents alone and find something original to write about.

    , @James Forrestal

    What kind of dickhead gives their sick father grief like that?
     
    Not only gives his sick father grief, but after the poor guy died, he wrote an entire article crowing about how he finally "won" an ongoing political argument with him; publicly throwing his own father under the bus to satisfy the demands of his ego -- and to signal his abject submission to The Narrative.

    The irony is that, despite Toutonghi's incessant subaltern-LARPing and performative Third-Worldism, this sort of behavior is far more characteristic of modern "Western" societies than of his (paternal) ancestral homeland, whatever its flaws...

  9. When I first opened this thread, I thought it would be about Mustafa Hefny.

    The Nubian immigrant who’s trying to get the Census to consider him black.

  10. What kind of person writes something like this about his father?

    • Replies: @SFG
    Someone who didn't get along with him. Family drama is a big thing--look at Star Wars. Space Western, yeah, but it's also the story of a boy who is very angry at his father.

    I always wondered if the negative portrayal of fathers in fiction (even pre-feminism) had to do with the fact that writing usually doesn't pay (as with the arts in general), so most dads would discourage their sons from doing it. Guys close to their dads who go into the family business in, say, lumber don't write novels. There was the Bach family, but classical music doesn't have people in it--it's highly organized sound.

    The only counterexamples I can think of off the top of my head would be Joe Hill (son of Stephen King) and Max Brooks (son of Mel Brooks). How do dads come off in their books?
  11. So, was cause of death listed as covid-19?

  12. @Mr McKenna
    https://i.ibb.co/Yf1mRmY/slur.jpg

    Yes, it's truly deplorable behavior, probably a very naughty child, but NATIONAL NEWS? Really? I know it's Not Who We Are, but isn't this giving the kid exactly what he wants??

    Also, I hope whoever wrote and then whoever approved that headline got promptly fired for the microaggression of not capitalizing the word “black.”

    Also, typing a word into a chat box and pressing ‘send’ is now hacking?

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Apparently they tried to shut him down and failed. His technorogy too advance! Either that or the word 'hacker' is used to assure us that the malefactor couldn't possibly be a black guy running a hoax.
  13. Biologically, Egyptians are white under 3- and 5-race clustering, and only get lumped with Middle Eastern/African in 7-race clustering, where also Indians and some Central Asians get lumped into a race.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Good point. Since race doesn't exist, and is only a social construct, and you are racist for even thinking, does the existence of more races get us closer to or further from the ideal of just one race, the human race, which is the only one there really is?
    , @anon
    Three race clustering? As in Bushmen A, Bushmen B and Everyone Else?
    , @Forbes
    I wonder, when did Egyptians start speaking Egyptian...

    When he spoke English, his Egyptian accent...
     
    As a youth, my family hosted a foreign exchange student from Egypt, he spoke Arabic--though I wouldn't have said his English was spoken with much of an accent.

    Presumably Toutonghi Sr spoke Arabic with an Egyptian accent, or dialect. I doubt his English accent would be discernible as Egyptian, rather than an Arabic accent.

    Seems a detail, or description, approaching fiction.
  14. @duncsbaby
    When whiteness is finally eradicated from this nation, guys like this will be in charge. Good luck.

    This despicable clown is a blue-eyed White with a White Arab father and a Latvian mother. When Whites are a despised and marginalized minority, he’s going to have a lot of luck trying to pull a Rachel Dolzeal and pass as a non-White.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    THIS. Flight from white is idiotic, it's got no endgame, it ends with the flyer on his knees covered in blood attempting to argue semantics with an angry kang.
    , @Jake
    Does the Latvian mother have any Jewish ancestry? Is she of primarily Lutheran background?
  15. “Never mind, I shouldn’t have called,” I snapped, like the spoiled rotten brat I was, as my dying father wheezed for a breath of air. No, I’m wasn’t a 13 year old, hormonally challenged jr. high school girl. I was, in fact, a grown man who had been turned into the epitome of evil by identity politics hysteria.

    • Agree: International Jew, UK
  16. Anon[377] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m all for more data. Let’s add MENA and South Asian, and separate Asian into rational divisions, divy up Pacific Islanders so that Polynesians and Micronesians are not dumped into the same category as Melanesians, require more detail for mixed race and consider Hispanic as being a mixed race, and most importantly, cleave off Jewish ancestry from Christian ancestry whites. The more granularity, the better.

  17. The New Yorker Magazine: EVERY.SINGLE.TIME!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The New Yorker Magazine: EVERY.SINGLE.TIME!
     
    People buy it for the cartoons-- and that's what this piece is.

    Pauls Toutonghi = Pout, lashing out.
  18. Cross cultural and inter-ethnic marriages seem to produce confused and angry offspring. Pauls Toutonghi is defective product of the melting pot. Not only is it a flight from white, it is a repudiation of Christianity. Now wonder it was published by the New Yorker.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
    • Replies: @hhsiii
    His father was an oppressed minority where he came from (there are fewer then 10,000 Syrian Melkite Catholics in Egypt, a minority within a minority, pre-Arab), and he the son identifies with the oppressors. But sees it himself in the exact opposite way.
  19. … But, since my father died, I have found myself wondering about the rage I saw in him as he grew older, and whether it might have reflected the refusal of his adopted and beloved country to see him.

    As incidents of White racism become more and more scarce on the ground, People of Color (or in this guy’s case, Aspirational People of Color) are forced to trundle out these entirely unfalsifiable accusations of bigotry or systemic racism or micro-aggression.

    His father’s adopted country refused to see him. Well, according to the man’s obituary, after moving to California at the age of 14,”Joe and his siblings thrived in their new home and Joe learned English from comic books and movies. Offered a generous opportunity to study at Seattle University, he moved to Seattle to complete an undergraduate degree and then pursued Master’s classes at the University of Washington.” The father went on to become a successful salesman, and then a high school teacher, a job which he evidently found both “energizing” and rewarding. While we know almost nothing about the details of the father’s private life, it’s hard to bend this skeletal biography into the shape of immigrant tragedy.

    What exactly should his friends, neighbors, and co-workers have done to see him? Having moved to America — California, no less — prior to the era of opportunistic victimhood, perhaps he wanted to be seen as a gregarious and successful American who had found his place in a new culture. I think this piece is really more about a son’s dismissal of his father than it is about America’s.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    Most White "racism" of the past was simply white people not putting up with the egregious shit of these demented dysfunctional overgrown infants, and acting accordingly.
    , @Lockean Proviso
    It's his narcissistic ingrate of a son who professes to see him primarily as a narrow, politically fraught identity. America saw him as a successful individual in the land of opportunity.
  20. @Richard of Melbourne
    The father sounds like an OK guy - someone you would be happy to have a beer with.

    What a sad fate for him, that his son turned out to be a miserable, whining POS.

    I feel sorry for the father that he has a mentally ill son.

    Seems like the daughter is normal.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    He's not mentally ill: that's an insult to mentally ill people who aren't ungrateful, sniveling jerks. He's just an idiot. He fails to understand that people outside his twisted social bubble would think him as despicable, not heroic, for bad-mouthing his late parent in the service of SJW ideology.

    The problem isn't that people like this exist, because they always do in any society. The problem is that the America's MSM is dominated by them, and is giving out social incentives for the weak-minded orbiting around them to ape their behavior.

  21. Joseph Toutonghi lived in Seattle. His obituary says that his first wife was named Mary—I assume her married name was Mary Toutonghi.

    Some years ago, a Seattle woman named Mary Toutonghi recalled that she babysat Barack Obama, when he and his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, lived in Seattle for a while, in the early 1960s.

    http://redoubtreporter.blogspot.com/2009/01/obama-baby-sitter-awaits-new-era.html

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    It's a small world after all. That most certainly is the same Mary. No doubt after reading your link.
    , @Twinkie
    Ran out of buttons. Thanks! An interesting bit of trivia.
    , @jon

    “It was interesting, and I don’t know why she was going to school in Seattle and he was in Hawaii at the time. She had told me at one point that because of her husband’s post in the tribe he was going to have to go back to Kenya and marry a black woman, as well. It was a whole different world, so she was accepting of that and hoping she could get back to him soon,” Toutonghi said.
     
    That didn't quite work out for her. His father was an asshole, the marriage was an obvious scam, and his mother was still just a teen. The whole situation was scummy through-and-through, but the press just passed over it all.
  22. Looks like the brains in the family went to the daughter. The guy sounds unhinged. His father’s background screams right-wing.

  23. The truth was this: I was angry at my father. I was unable to forgive him, even in death, for the way he’d turned against his heritage,

    I was the one who’d discovered an unexpected allegiance to Arabic culture during a year living in Morocco. I was the one who’d recited the shehadah before an adul, and formally converted to Islam

    It seems to be common for the sons of assimilated migrants, and in particular Muslims, to rage against their parents and go back to a identity more related to their old country. In Europe most jihadist are second or third generation Muslims born and grown up in Europe.

    Why is that? Daddy issues? Did not obtain social success and feel marginalized? Or unable to fully identify with the new country, they seek a sense of belonging somewhere else? But then why did their parents, who had it much harder, don’t feel like that?

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    But then why did their parents, who had it much harder, don’t feel like that?
     
    Knowing what it was like back home. Some in the second generation have an idealized sense of the Old World of their parents (or often grandparents), especially if they aren’t successful or feel alienated. Very few, though, actually visit the ancestral lands and see them for what they really are. They are too lazy to do so and would rather keep on whining.
    , @Anonymouse
    >Why is that? Daddy issues? Did not obtain social success and feel marginalized? Or unable to fully identify with the new country, they seek a sense of belonging somewhere else? But then why did their parents, who had it much harder, don’t feel like that?

    This is spot on IMO. Failure in life and coping with that failure by turning to religion is common. The father's Christian upbringing made him a functioning member of Western civilization. Finally becoming a high-school teacher suggests that the father understood his limitations and was satisfied to lend a modest hand to our common enterprise. The son - I am guessing - had a loftier ambition than teachinb high-school but having inherited the middling talents of his father he was unable to become the man he had hoped to be. The father was able to understand the world in a larger compass by having immigrated from Lebanon to the US. The son did not have the moral advantage of having faced and overcome the rigors of immigrated.
  24. • Thanks: Change that Matters
    • Replies: @jon
    From the review:

    Although Yuri is the one sharing this story with us, he is not the novel's most likable character. In fact, he initially comes across as cold and self-centered, a kid with little respect for the misery his parents have gone through or an appreciation for the work they've done trying to provide him with the American dream.
     

    Yuri aside, the star of "Red Weather" is the colorful Rudolfi. He's the man you don't want as a guest at that important dinner party. He's loud and obnoxious, has a penchant for losing his temper and is something of an alcoholic. No bottle of bourbon is safe around him. For a man with so many unlikable traits, Rudolfi is an endearing sort. He's a man who quickly earns our sympathy, for we all know what it's like to nurse dreams that will never materialize. There is something noble in someone struggling silently to make the best of his less-than-satisfying circumstances.
    Rudolfi is a man who has very little in life, but he's willing to share it with any loved one in need. It's because we develop compassion for Rudolfi that Yuri's behavior can at times be irksome.
     
    Even in this cherry-picked and fictionalized version of his life, Paul (Yuri) ends up coming across as the asshole, and his father as the hero. Sad!
  25. @PiltdownMan
    Joseph Toutonghi lived in Seattle. His obituary says that his first wife was named Mary—I assume her married name was Mary Toutonghi.

    Some years ago, a Seattle woman named Mary Toutonghi recalled that she babysat Barack Obama, when he and his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, lived in Seattle for a while, in the early 1960s.

    http://redoubtreporter.blogspot.com/2009/01/obama-baby-sitter-awaits-new-era.html

    It’s a small world after all. That most certainly is the same Mary. No doubt after reading your link.

    • Agree: Change that Matters
  26. This poor son of a bitch. Christians in the middle east have it rough. Once the majority in the birth place of their religion, they are now a minority suffering under spasms of extremism from the Muslims and Jews. Then this poor schlub had to watch his POS son convert to to the invader’s religion. “Its the beginning of Sharia law” was a historical fact his ancestors passed down to him in the old country.

    Sad.

    • Agree: Pheasant, Lagertha
    • Replies: @ricpic
    What are Christians in the Middle East suffering from Jews? Nothing!

    But go on bleating, you Jew hating standard Unzite.
  27. … in 1952, American audiences didn’t have much of a problem with seeing the Lebanese-American Thomas in a movie playing the husband of Doris Day.

    On the other hand, I’m surprised that, in 1951, the movie censors and their Hays code didn’t have a problem with the scene in which Doris Day and Danny Thomas suggestively sing the 1920s jazz-era standard “Makin’ Whoopie”— as they get ready for bed.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    Doris Day movies had a shocking amount of innuendo. I don't know if it was her insistence, or whether her blond innocent look gave studios license to be more bold in their innuendo, since her look was girl-next-door and not the sex vamp look that a Rita Hayworth or Greta Garbo gave off. But either way, if you happen to catch a few of her movies on TCM---especially the ones with Rock Hudson ---hoo boy its like the opening scenes of a well-made adult movie!

    Of course, if you pay attention, old classic movies had a lot of innuendo going on, but they were true double entendres, the kind that you wouldn't catch if you were a kid or not paying attention, so it made it safe for all audiences. It was truly witty and artistic in many circumstances, not like the vulgar crassness of the sluts on screen today.
  28. @BenKenobi
    Also, I hope whoever wrote and then whoever approved that headline got promptly fired for the microaggression of not capitalizing the word "black."

    Also, typing a word into a chat box and pressing 'send' is now hacking?

    Apparently they tried to shut him down and failed. His technorogy too advance! Either that or the word ‘hacker’ is used to assure us that the malefactor couldn’t possibly be a black guy running a hoax.

    • Replies: @David
    In having access to speech, he hacked their minds. Like what Russia did to all of us.
  29. The subtext of this piece is: “Just you wait, Pa, I’ll show you who’s the better man.”

    Pauls Toutonghi left it until his father was dead to show him who’s best, a reliable indicator of his low ranking on the male socio-sexual hierarchy. His father has to bear some responsibility for that (which may explain the late-life rage his son witnessed), but no family should be burdened with males so weak they publicly desecrate familial heritage in a vain attempt to demonstrate superiority over an obviously more substantial father.

    Imagine not being man enough to make peace with an elderly father to whom you owe everything and having no clue about he regret this article will cause him at some future point of his life.

    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
    If this clown could write this in the first place, and put it out for print, I rather doubt that he will come to regret it later on. Rather, being the inadequate, ungrateful POS he is, he will only double down on it. So as not to show weakness, you know. Too late, beotch, you have already broadcast to the world just what a weak, craven coward you are.
  30. Maybe he should blame his father for marrying a white woman. It could be his own blend of genes that’s causing the problem.

  31. Perhaps it’s also not surprising that my father married two women of European descent: his first wife, an Irish-American, and then my mom, a Latvian refugee. In his children, he created what he yearned to be. Thrown into a crowd of white Americans, each of us could pass for Sons and Daughters of the American Revolution.

    You don’t understand the pain, the sheer ontological agony that I feel when people actually think that I have something in common with Benjamin Franklin and John Adams…….

    Perhaps the single most powerful categorization tool at work in the United States is the Office of Management and Budget’s Directive No. 15. It determines the work of every federal program that is engaged with statistical activities. In May, it will be, like me, forty-three years old, having been created by the Ad Hoc Committee on Racial and Ethnic Definitions, in the late seventies. It divides the nation into five basic racial groups: black, white, American Indian/Alaskan native, Asian, and native Hawaiian/other Pacific islander. That’s it. Hispanic is rejected as its own distinct racial category, and is treated instead as an ethnicity, a subdivision within the other races. The directive was revised, slightly, in 1997; a note was added stating that “race and ethnicity may be thought of in terms of social and cultural characteristics as well as ancestry.” But the categories remained monolithic. Why do we still use such antiquated racial categories?

    See, it’s simply wrong that a Man of Color like myself has to suffer the burden of being labeled a White man….We gotta change the classification system to fit exotics like myself…..people who look White but don’t, you know, feel White….

    I was the one who’d taken Arabic classes as an adult. I was the one who’d pushed Dad to travel with me and my sister to Egypt, so that he could show us the place he’d come from, the place where he’d spent the first fourteen years of his life. I was the one who’d discovered an unexpected allegiance to Arabic culture during a year living in Morocco. I was the one who’d recited the shehadah before an adul, and formally converted to Islam. Ashhadu alla ilaha illa Allah, I’d repeated three times, wa ashhadu anna Muhammad rasul Allah. My family tree was full of Muslim names; during the Franco-Ottoman alliance, which lasted centuries, the family had been both Christian and Muslim. As I spoke the shehadah, a distinct feeling opened up inside of me—a feeling of return. It was not a feeling, I knew, that my father would have accepted, or understood.

    Being Muslim makes me less White, right? What if I also discovered that I’m Bi? Muslim + Bi…..Maybe that’ll turn on the ol’ affirmative action faucet…..

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    >Being Muslim makes me less White, right?

    https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/justice-wasn-t-served-says-brother-of-st-louis-man/article_742d8524-42ca-5a74-92c4-fe4951d1973c.html
  32. @Anon
    Biologically, Egyptians are white under 3- and 5-race clustering, and only get lumped with Middle Eastern/African in 7-race clustering, where also Indians and some Central Asians get lumped into a race.

    Good point. Since race doesn’t exist, and is only a social construct, and you are racist for even thinking, does the existence of more races get us closer to or further from the ideal of just one race, the human race, which is the only one there really is?

  33. @Twinkie
    I feel sorry for the father that he has a mentally ill son.

    Seems like the daughter is normal.

    He’s not mentally ill: that’s an insult to mentally ill people who aren’t ungrateful, sniveling jerks. He’s just an idiot. He fails to understand that people outside his twisted social bubble would think him as despicable, not heroic, for bad-mouthing his late parent in the service of SJW ideology.

    The problem isn’t that people like this exist, because they always do in any society. The problem is that the America’s MSM is dominated by them, and is giving out social incentives for the weak-minded orbiting around them to ape their behavior.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    He’s just an idiot.
     
    That’s an insult to low IQ people who are otherwise very sweet. ;)

    He fails to understand that people outside his twisted social bubble
     
    I see that as a form of mental illness. There are mentally ill people who are criminal, merely jerky, or sweet, but the common denominator is the failure to perceive the outside world (especially other people) with reasonable accuracy and engaging in thoughts and behaviors that are harmful to themselves and/or others.
    , @sayless
    He's craving status. Can't locate a foundational sense of self, which might require work and patience, so he turns to Easy Street for validation, which is ethnic-victim status these days.

    What a lazy child.

    How old is he, anyway?
    , @AnotherDad

    The problem isn’t that people like this exist, because they always do in any society. The problem is that the America’s MSM is dominated by them, and is giving out social incentives for the weak-minded orbiting around them to ape their behavior.
     
    This.

    Since the rise of Jewish minoritarianism--minorities virtuous, majorities evil--to the status of reigning state ideology, people are encouraged to find their inner twit head grievance, stew in it, blab about it. It can be the WASPy country clubs, the "anti-semitism" at Harvard Westlake, some pushy broad wanting you kid to stop playing on the escalator and get out of her way, someone thinking you look like a terrorist, a girl not wanting to date you ... the list is endless, including nothing at all.

    All these whiners are effectively parasites. They've glommed onto the nation white gentiles built and you couldn't pry them lose with a crowbar ... but they trash it endlessly.

    In a normal healthy nation if some minority is hostile to or whining about the nation's people and culture ... "there's the door!"

    But under minoritarianism, we are no longer a normal healthy nation.

    , @Chris Renner
    Exactly that.
  34. One of the author’s sisters:

    • Replies: @Testing12
    That bish is cray-cray!

    Looks like it runs in the family; possibly from the moms side, since dad seems like a normal proud hard working American.
    , @Flip
    She looks like a girl of Swiss Mennonite ancestry I used to know. Definitely white.
    , @Bubba
    Holy crap! I can’t believe any adult would make such an embarrassing video like this. And she doesn’t even mention her Mom when asked, “Who are your three women heroes?” But she does babble something about her 2 grandmothers.

    Those poor parents sacrificed everything to raise their children only to have them grow up to be selfish, egotistical brats.
  35. @syonredux

    Perhaps it’s also not surprising that my father married two women of European descent: his first wife, an Irish-American, and then my mom, a Latvian refugee. In his children, he created what he yearned to be. Thrown into a crowd of white Americans, each of us could pass for Sons and Daughters of the American Revolution.
     
    You don't understand the pain, the sheer ontological agony that I feel when people actually think that I have something in common with Benjamin Franklin and John Adams.......

    Perhaps the single most powerful categorization tool at work in the United States is the Office of Management and Budget’s Directive No. 15. It determines the work of every federal program that is engaged with statistical activities. In May, it will be, like me, forty-three years old, having been created by the Ad Hoc Committee on Racial and Ethnic Definitions, in the late seventies. It divides the nation into five basic racial groups: black, white, American Indian/Alaskan native, Asian, and native Hawaiian/other Pacific islander. That’s it. Hispanic is rejected as its own distinct racial category, and is treated instead as an ethnicity, a subdivision within the other races. The directive was revised, slightly, in 1997; a note was added stating that “race and ethnicity may be thought of in terms of social and cultural characteristics as well as ancestry.” But the categories remained monolithic. Why do we still use such antiquated racial categories?
     
    See, it's simply wrong that a Man of Color like myself has to suffer the burden of being labeled a White man....We gotta change the classification system to fit exotics like myself.....people who look White but don't, you know, feel White....

    I was the one who’d taken Arabic classes as an adult. I was the one who’d pushed Dad to travel with me and my sister to Egypt, so that he could show us the place he’d come from, the place where he’d spent the first fourteen years of his life. I was the one who’d discovered an unexpected allegiance to Arabic culture during a year living in Morocco. I was the one who’d recited the shehadah before an adul, and formally converted to Islam. Ashhadu alla ilaha illa Allah, I’d repeated three times, wa ashhadu anna Muhammad rasul Allah. My family tree was full of Muslim names; during the Franco-Ottoman alliance, which lasted centuries, the family had been both Christian and Muslim. As I spoke the shehadah, a distinct feeling opened up inside of me—a feeling of return. It was not a feeling, I knew, that my father would have accepted, or understood.

     

    Being Muslim makes me less White, right? What if I also discovered that I'm Bi? Muslim + Bi.....Maybe that'll turn on the ol' affirmative action faucet.....
  36. @Dan Hayes
    The New Yorker Magazine: EVERY.SINGLE.TIME!

    The New Yorker Magazine: EVERY.SINGLE.TIME!

    People buy it for the cartoons– and that’s what this piece is.

    Pauls Toutonghi = Pout, lashing out.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @syonredux

    The New Yorker Magazine: EVERY.SINGLE.TIME!

    People buy it for the cartoons– and that’s what this piece is.
     
    Makes me long for the good old days, back when The New Yorker published fellows like James Thurber....


    https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/its-a-nave-domestic-burgundy-without-any-james-thurber.jpg


    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/07/16/ab/0716ab8ac253b75823c57ca2b9803b59.jpg
    , @Harry Baldwin
    In its March 27 issue, the New Yorker ran a cover story titled "Trump’s Dangerous Messaging About a Possible Coronavirus Treatment," subtitled "The President has continued to recommend a combination of drugs that are unproven in fighting the novel coronavirus and are known to cause dangerous side effects."

    I sure hope that, should they fall ill, those New Yorker editors don't risk their lives using that dangerous coronavirus treatment now approved by the FDA.

    , @Laugh Track
    If they are buying the New Yorker for the cartoons, they are about 40 years too late. Gag cartoons used to be a viable profession for a few dozen exceptional cartoonists. Now, the best that gag cartoons can do is make you gag. But don't get me started...
  37. @Dumbo

    The truth was this: I was angry at my father. I was unable to forgive him, even in death, for the way he’d turned against his heritage,

     


    I was the one who’d discovered an unexpected allegiance to Arabic culture during a year living in Morocco. I was the one who’d recited the shehadah before an adul, and formally converted to Islam
     
    It seems to be common for the sons of assimilated migrants, and in particular Muslims, to rage against their parents and go back to a identity more related to their old country. In Europe most jihadist are second or third generation Muslims born and grown up in Europe.

    Why is that? Daddy issues? Did not obtain social success and feel marginalized? Or unable to fully identify with the new country, they seek a sense of belonging somewhere else? But then why did their parents, who had it much harder, don't feel like that?

    But then why did their parents, who had it much harder, don’t feel like that?

    Knowing what it was like back home. Some in the second generation have an idealized sense of the Old World of their parents (or often grandparents), especially if they aren’t successful or feel alienated. Very few, though, actually visit the ancestral lands and see them for what they really are. They are too lazy to do so and would rather keep on whining.

    • Agree: Lagertha
    • Replies: @Daniel Williams

    Very few, though, actually visit the ancestral lands and see them for what they really are.
     
    Remember when Muhammad Ali got back from Africa and told the press “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat!”?
    , @Seneca44
    Absolutely true. I know a number of Egyptian Christians (although they are Coptics, not Catholic) who felt absolutely terrified by the Muslims in their native country. Although the son reportedly spent a year in Morocco, I doubt he had the true experience of an oppressed minority that his father had in Egypt.
  38. “As I spoke the shehadah, a distinct feeling opened up inside of me—a feeling of return.” I don’t think we would mind, Pauls, if you were to cultivate and nourish this feeling, even indulge it. No one will discourage you, considering that you are a massive chode.

  39. @nebulafox
    He's not mentally ill: that's an insult to mentally ill people who aren't ungrateful, sniveling jerks. He's just an idiot. He fails to understand that people outside his twisted social bubble would think him as despicable, not heroic, for bad-mouthing his late parent in the service of SJW ideology.

    The problem isn't that people like this exist, because they always do in any society. The problem is that the America's MSM is dominated by them, and is giving out social incentives for the weak-minded orbiting around them to ape their behavior.

    He’s just an idiot.

    That’s an insult to low IQ people who are otherwise very sweet. 😉

    He fails to understand that people outside his twisted social bubble

    I see that as a form of mental illness. There are mentally ill people who are criminal, merely jerky, or sweet, but the common denominator is the failure to perceive the outside world (especially other people) with reasonable accuracy and engaging in thoughts and behaviors that are harmful to themselves and/or others.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @nebulafox
    >That’s an insult to low IQ people who are otherwise very sweet.

    Touche.

    Then I will shift to him being an blasphemous, effete, un-filial dip****. Most people can avoid being one of those.

    >There are mentally ill people who are criminal, merely jerky, or sweet, but the common denominator is the failure to perceive the outside world (especially other people) with reasonable accuracy and engaging in thoughts and behaviors that are harmful to themselves and/or others.

    Eh... that seems to describe far more people than just the crazies these days. Or maybe the world is just getting crazier.
  40. @PiltdownMan
    Joseph Toutonghi lived in Seattle. His obituary says that his first wife was named Mary—I assume her married name was Mary Toutonghi.

    Some years ago, a Seattle woman named Mary Toutonghi recalled that she babysat Barack Obama, when he and his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, lived in Seattle for a while, in the early 1960s.

    http://redoubtreporter.blogspot.com/2009/01/obama-baby-sitter-awaits-new-era.html

    Ran out of buttons. Thanks! An interesting bit of trivia.

  41. Personally, I’m glad this recently deceased soul — and a decent man from what little emerges — had a twat of a son come right out and say, all but explicitly, that Western nations aren’t really nations at all. They are the putty-lands the new “enrichers” are going to turn into something good, magical, and wonderful just as soon as all us crackers finally kick off.

    At no point does this little shit weasle even consider the large number of decent white Americans who accepted his dad as one of their own. Never imagines it or adds it to his frump bucket. It’s all about all the phony and retchedly overwrought evil he thinks Americans did to him by making way for his dad and treating him as one of their own. But then snakes don’t think very far ahead.

    But remember, your regime says this gutter rat is enriching us. I feel richer already.

    • Replies: @botazefa

    At no point does this little shit weasle even consider the large number of decent white Americans who accepted his dad as one of their own.
     
    The fact that people are allowed, hell encouraged, to proclaim their victimhood proudly is the direct result of acceptance and indulgence of those in charge.

    Misbehaving children don't have strict dads, after all.
  42. @Reg Cæsar

    The New Yorker Magazine: EVERY.SINGLE.TIME!
     
    People buy it for the cartoons-- and that's what this piece is.

    Pauls Toutonghi = Pout, lashing out.

    The New Yorker Magazine: EVERY.SINGLE.TIME!

    People buy it for the cartoons– and that’s what this piece is.

    Makes me long for the good old days, back when The New Yorker published fellows like James Thurber….

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    Thanks for that, I was never able to find the original source for that amused by its presumption wine joke. Now I can quote it correctly.
  43. Pauls’ brother, Steve, had this to say:

    “March 31st, Dad would have been 88 today.
    My siblings and I each had our own relationship with our Dad. I think we all agree he was a complicated person. I’m glad my brother Pauls wrote this–it explores things that are very painful–to me it feels like an act of love.”

    E21F0EDD-F1FA-4E60-BC72-1D8163868C94

    Maybe the boys take after their mother?

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    Yikes. If they have anything to complain about their father's legacy to them, it my be their appearance.
    , @Inquiring Mind
    C'mon people, how does he look that much different than a younger version of actor Brad Garrett ("Robbie" on Everyone Loves Raymond) -- the close-set eyes, the largish schnoz, the high forehead, the earnest look?
  44. I couldn’t forgive the horrible things he’d taken to saying about the Middle East, the hatred he’d directed at Muslims, in particular…

    Thanks to his father, Toutonghi the younger was born in a country where tattooing a newborn is illegal, rather than advisable.

    Meet A Family That Has Tattoed Christians In Jerusalem For 700 Years

    Coptic Christian children: Kidnapped and killed for cash

    Egypt’s silent epidemic of kidnapped Christian girls

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Thanks to his father, Toutonghi the younger was born in a country where tattooing a newborn is illegal, rather than advisable.
     
    Although it is perfectly legal for a mother to try to turn her boy into a girl.
    , @hhsiii
    The tattooing is done by the Christians, the kidnapping, and taking of the girls, by the Muslims. His father wasn’t Coptic but Melkite Catholic, so probably no tattoos. But who knows.

    It’s pretty fascinating to me how the father clearly saw Islam as a threat and the son has some kind of identification with it as being oppressed by the culture he grew up in. Must be all the wars we get involved in over there.

  45. Danny Thomas was so marginalized as an Arab-American, that he could never accomplish anything, what with The (White) Man putting him down:

    Moreover, his family never amounted to anything. Why, white people didn’t even bother to call his daughter by her name.

    To them, she was just………………that girl:

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Really a beautiful woman, but the stories that got around NY when she was old were so splenetic they'd peel the paint right off your living room walls.

    ETA: Dear God she's still alive.

    , @nebulafox
    Near as I can tell, Americans of Middle Eastern extraction were just lumped in as white back in his father's day.

    I've heard that as recently as the early 1980s, some Americans with a Mexican background would get offended if they weren't viewed as white. Outside of places like NYC where there were already large non-European immigrant populations (Puerto Ricans) concentrated into a small geographic area with their own identity, "not white" was taken for granted as black, your token Razib Khans aside.

    , @ScarletNumber
    Amazingly enough, she has no children. Her husband Phil Donahue has 5 children with his first wife.

    Here's something I didn't know. Her brother Tony is a TV producer who is responsible for such hits as Soap, Benson, and The Golden Girls.
  46. @Reg Cæsar

    I couldn’t forgive the horrible things he’d taken to saying about the Middle East, the hatred he’d directed at Muslims, in particular...
     
    Thanks to his father, Toutonghi the younger was born in a country where tattooing a newborn is illegal, rather than advisable.


    Meet A Family That Has Tattoed Christians In Jerusalem For 700 Years

    Coptic Christian children: Kidnapped and killed for cash

    Egypt’s silent epidemic of kidnapped Christian girls


    https://www.bibliatodo.com/En/christian-news/files/2017/08/tattoo.jpg

    https://ssl.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000AIYxBAx1I8A/s/1200/I0000AIYxBAx1I8A.jpg

    Thanks to his father, Toutonghi the younger was born in a country where tattooing a newborn is illegal, rather than advisable.

    Although it is perfectly legal for a mother to try to turn her boy into a girl.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  47. @Twinkie

    He’s just an idiot.
     
    That’s an insult to low IQ people who are otherwise very sweet. ;)

    He fails to understand that people outside his twisted social bubble
     
    I see that as a form of mental illness. There are mentally ill people who are criminal, merely jerky, or sweet, but the common denominator is the failure to perceive the outside world (especially other people) with reasonable accuracy and engaging in thoughts and behaviors that are harmful to themselves and/or others.

    >That’s an insult to low IQ people who are otherwise very sweet.

    Touche.

    Then I will shift to him being an blasphemous, effete, un-filial dip****. Most people can avoid being one of those.

    >There are mentally ill people who are criminal, merely jerky, or sweet, but the common denominator is the failure to perceive the outside world (especially other people) with reasonable accuracy and engaging in thoughts and behaviors that are harmful to themselves and/or others.

    Eh… that seems to describe far more people than just the crazies these days. Or maybe the world is just getting crazier.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    Eh… that seems to describe far more people than just the crazies these days. Or maybe the world is just getting crazier.
     
    That’s empirically true. More people (esp. young people) are diagnosed and treated for mental illness.
  48. We have now gotten to the point where Tony Shalhoub can make it as an actor without having to change his name, even playing at Italian in Wings.

    Jameel Farah came a little earlier, so he had to become Jamie Farr, even though his character on MASH was explicitly Lebanese.

    • Replies: @fish

    Jameel Farah came a little earlier, so he had to become Jamie Farr, even though his character on MASH was explicitly Lebanese.
     
    Really? Explicitly Lebanese.....and yet there are those who say the US is homophobic.


    (Sorry.....couldn’t resist! Old Benny Hill bit.)
    , @Reg Cæsar
    Najeeb Halaby headed the FAA under Kennedy, and later Pan Am, succeeding Juan Trippe. He grew up in Dallas, eligible through his mother for membership in the Sons of Confederate Veterans.

    Like Joe Toutonghi, one of his children "reverted" to Islam, but she got something in return, as Queen of Jordan. Now Queen Dowager, she may qualify for the United Daughters of the Confederacy if great-grandpa didn't take the Oath of Allegiance before April 8, 155 years ago.


    https://prabook.com/web/najeeb.halaby/668334


    They also have a connection to Aleppo-- "Halaby" means someone from that city.


    https://prabook.com/web/show-photo.jpg?id=2546605&cache=false

  49. @Richard of Melbourne
    The father sounds like an OK guy - someone you would be happy to have a beer with.

    What a sad fate for him, that his son turned out to be a miserable, whining POS.

    I wonder if his father read iSteve and if so what his handle was.

  50. This guy must be a riot around the family Thanksgiving table.

    • LOL: Hibernian, sayless
  51. @Anon
    Biologically, Egyptians are white under 3- and 5-race clustering, and only get lumped with Middle Eastern/African in 7-race clustering, where also Indians and some Central Asians get lumped into a race.

    Three race clustering? As in Bushmen A, Bushmen B and Everyone Else?

    • Replies: @Anon

    Three race clustering? As in Bushmen A, Bushmen B and Everyone Else?
     
    Nope. Charles Murray's new book, "Human Diversity" covers this in an extensively endnoted chapter 7. There have been many cluster analysis techniques and programs used since Calvalli-Sforza first applied the technique pre-SNP in 1996. Each and every one of them result in Africa as a single cohesive cluster versus whatever number of non-African clusters you want. This is counterintuitive, but it's simply statistical math applied to data. Murray cites the technical references and has an intuitive analogy involving a hypothetical interstellar starship that helps explain what's going on.

    Cavalli-Sforza's initial findings:

    The cluster analysis used by Cavalli-Sforza and Bowcock confirmed (as have all subsequent analyses) that the great bulk of variation in humans is within populations, not between them, just as Lewontin said. But even with the limited measures of genetic variation available in the early 1990s, their clusters corresponded to the geographic origin of the subjects at the continental level.
     

    These results from a 2008 study that used genome scans of a wide set of people are typical (in cluster analysis you input how many clusters to solve for, K):

    At K = 2, two sets of the 51 populations in the Li study’s database had virtually no overlap: populations in sub-Saharan Africa versus populations in East Asia plus a few in the Americas. All the other populations were mixtures of the two clusters.

    At K = 3, the people who showed virtually no admixture across clusters consisted of individuals from sub-Saharan Africa, today’s Europe and Mideast, and the East Asian–Americas group. Those from Central and South Asia had varying mixtures of the European/Mideast and East Asian/Amerind clusters.

    At K = 4, the Amerindians split off to form a separate cluster.

    At K = 5, the Oceania populations split off.

    At K = 6, the Central and South Asians split off.

    At K = 7, the configuration that the authors assessed as the most informative, those in the Mideast split off from the Europeans.
     

    There are many studies using different algorithms and different data sets with the same results, which Murray reports on.
  52. ‘Other……Caucasian’ Wouldn’t that make everyone happy? Or is that socially constructed, too?

  53. @Mr. Anon
    Danny Thomas was so marginalized as an Arab-American, that he could never accomplish anything, what with The (White) Man putting him down:

    https://townsquare.media/site/241/files/2013/02/St.-Jude1.jpg?w=980&q=75

    Moreover, his family never amounted to anything. Why, white people didn't even bother to call his daughter by her name.

    To them, she was just..................that girl:

    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/[email protected]_V1_.jpg

    Really a beautiful woman, but the stories that got around NY when she was old were so splenetic they’d peel the paint right off your living room walls.

    ETA: Dear God she’s still alive.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Really a beautiful woman, but the stories that got around NY when she was old were so splenetic they’d peel the paint right off your living room walls.
     
    Yes, I agree. Marlo Thomas was one of my early TV crushes. I guess the vile temper goes with being a spoiled Hollywood princess.
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    When I dated the receptionist at a local spa, Marlo was one of the customers. According to my girlfriend, Ms. Thomas was a nervous scatterbrain and a pain in the ass to schedule.
  54. @Mr. Anon
    Danny Thomas was so marginalized as an Arab-American, that he could never accomplish anything, what with The (White) Man putting him down:

    https://townsquare.media/site/241/files/2013/02/St.-Jude1.jpg?w=980&q=75

    Moreover, his family never amounted to anything. Why, white people didn't even bother to call his daughter by her name.

    To them, she was just..................that girl:

    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/[email protected]_V1_.jpg

    Near as I can tell, Americans of Middle Eastern extraction were just lumped in as white back in his father’s day.

    I’ve heard that as recently as the early 1980s, some Americans with a Mexican background would get offended if they weren’t viewed as white. Outside of places like NYC where there were already large non-European immigrant populations (Puerto Ricans) concentrated into a small geographic area with their own identity, “not white” was taken for granted as black, your token Razib Khans aside.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    Near as I can tell, Americans of Middle Eastern extraction were just lumped in as white back in his father’s day.
     
    Michael DeBakey grew up in the Jim Crow South, and people thought that he was White:

    Michael Ellis DeBakey (born Michel Dabaghi; September 7, 1908 – July 11, 2008) was a Lebanese-American cardiac surgeon and vascular surgeon, scientist and medical educator who became the chancellor emeritus of Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, Texas, director of the Methodist DeBakey Heart & Vascular Center, and senior attending surgeon at Methodist Hospital in Houston, with a career spanning 75 years.
     

    Born to Lebanese Christian immigrants, DeBakey was inspired to pursue a career in medicine by the physicians that he had met at his father's drug store, and he simultaneously learned sewing skills from his mother. He subsequently attended Tulane University for his premedical course and Tulane University School of Medicine to study medicine. At Tulane, he developed a version of the roller pump, which he initially used to transfuse blood directly from person to person and which later became a component of the heart–lung machine. Following early surgical training at Charity Hospital, DeBakey was encouraged to complete his surgical fellowships in Europe, before returning to Tulane University in 1937. During the Second World War, he helped develop the Mobile Army Surgical Hospital (MASH) units and later helped establish the Veterans Administration Medical Center Research System.
     

    DeBakey's surgical innovations included coronary bypass operations, carotid endarterectomy, artificial hearts and ventricular assist devices. He used polyethylene terephthalate (Dacron) grafts to replace or repair blood vessels and pioneered surgical repairs of aortic aneurysms, an operation he himself underwent at the age of 97. DeBakey received a number of awards, including the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the National Medal of Science, and the Congressional Gold Medal. In addition, a number of institutions bear his name.
     

    Michael DeBakey was born as Michel Dabaghi[1] in Lake Charles, Louisiana on September 7, 1908, to Shaker Morris and Raheeja Dabaghi. The name was later anglicized to DeBakey.[2][3] His parents were Lebanese Christian immigrants, spoke French and fled oppression from the Ottomans to settle in Cajun Country where French was spoken.[4]

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_DeBakey



    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-g4V8A2PxgSE/UPcN04XfAEI/AAAAAAAAAXY/1GO38CU95Os/s1600/DeBakey_00003126.jpg
    , @ben tillman

    Near as I can tell, Americans of Middle Eastern extraction were just lumped in as white back in his father’s day.
     
    The roster of the Ole Miss football team back in the 1950's says you're right.
    , @Mr. Anon
    One prominent Arab-American was Mohamed Atalla, co-inventor of the MOSFET, which is one of the most consequential inventions of the last century.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_M._Atalla

    The other co-inventor was Korean-American. The MOSFET was a real immigrant success story.

    Some people might say - see what America would be missing out on without immigration! However America managed to acquire both of these productive and talented gentleman without the benefit of Hart-Cellar or the Diversity Lottery.

  55. “As I spoke the shehadah, a distinct feeling opened up inside of me—a feeling of return.”

    Please Pauls, please return.

    Truer words were never said, than these spoken by Trump (during Friday’s presser):

    “Fifty years ago, we were the envy of the world.  And then we spent all this money so stupidly in the Middle East.  We spent — it’s going to be very close to $8 trillion in the Middle East.  How stupid was that decision?”

  56. The gold tassels of her rings struck each other as she worked her hands back and forth.

    Don’t know about Dad, but Mum is definitely an Arab.

  57. “How sharper than a serpent’s tooth it is
    To have a thankless child.—Away, away!”

    [MORE]

    King Lear Act 1 Scene 4
    William Shakespeare

    Lear
    Ingratitude, thou marble-hearted fiend,
    More hideous when thou show’st thee in a child
    Than the sea monster.
    ALBANY
    Pray, sir, be patient.

    ALBANY
    My lord, I am guiltless, as I am ignorant,
    Of what hath moved you.
    LEAR
    It may be so, my lord.
    Hear, Nature, hear, dear goddess, hear!
    Suspend thy purpose if thou didst intend
    To make this creature fruitful.
    Into her womb convey sterility.
    Dry up in her the organs of increase,
    And from her derogate body never spring
    A babe to honor her. If she must teem,
    Create her child of spleen, that it may live
    And be a thwart disnatured torment to her.
    Let it stamp wrinkles in her brow of youth,
    With cadent tears fret channels in her cheeks,
    Turn all her mother’s pains and benefits
    To laughter and contempt, that she may feel—
    That she may feel
    How sharper than a serpent’s tooth it is
    To have a thankless child.—Away, away!

  58. @anon

    Sickening
     
    What kind of dickhead gives their sick father grief like that?

    What kind of dickhead gives their sick father grief like that?

    Answer: Someone who wants to get published in the New Yorker by virtue signaling that, in the Current Year, he prefers a (presumably fake) identification with Islam to any identification with the hated American “white privilege.”

    There should be a special place in hell for anyone who would publicly trash his dead parent’s memory for his own career advancement.

    Frankly, I’ve always hated personal essays about one’s parents. They can’t possibly be objective or accurate, anyway. Just keep it between you and your psychiatrist. Leave your dead parents alone and find something original to write about.

    • Agree: black sea
    • Replies: @nebulafox
    Judecca: lowest ring of the 9th circle. Even lower than traitors to your kin. In the end, what bigger benefactor do you have than your parents, at least if they did a good job?
  59. Oh for heaven’s sake! My own father was born in Egypt in 1925. He was never considered to be anything other than white even though there was some kind of mixture somewhere in his mother’s family, probably a bit of Syrian.

    But he could have called himself African American if he wanted because Egypt is in Africa.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    Ah. That explains why you think the white girls in Rotherham were asking for it. Is Pakipology a thing for Egyptians?
  60. @Hypnotoad666

    What kind of dickhead gives their sick father grief like that?
     
    Answer: Someone who wants to get published in the New Yorker by virtue signaling that, in the Current Year, he prefers a (presumably fake) identification with Islam to any identification with the hated American "white privilege."

    There should be a special place in hell for anyone who would publicly trash his dead parent's memory for his own career advancement.

    Frankly, I've always hated personal essays about one's parents. They can't possibly be objective or accurate, anyway. Just keep it between you and your psychiatrist. Leave your dead parents alone and find something original to write about.

    Judecca: lowest ring of the 9th circle. Even lower than traitors to your kin. In the end, what bigger benefactor do you have than your parents, at least if they did a good job?

  61. @Chrisnonymous
    So, he was a Christian? So he was a Middle-Easterner who nursed hatreds of other Middle-Easterners of different religions. Sounds very Middle-Eastern. In what way had he "turned against his heritage"?

    It was his son who turned against his Christian heritage by converting to Islam.
    From Egypt to Turkey, Islam is the oppressor against Christian minorities who date back before Islam even existed, and the former French and British rulers, their protectors.
    Not surprisingly, the nominally Christian USA had turned their back on them. My theory is that the USA was founded as an implicitly anti-Christian nation, as befits its masonic founding fathers.

    • Replies: @Jake
    That conversion was the call of cultural and racial Semitism.

    This is a religious war. It is about Christ and Christendom on the one side assailed by by all things anti-Christ, which always are spearheaded by things Semitic: Jewish and Islamic/Arabic.
  62. Did the douchebag also spit on his father’s grave?
    Modern op-eds: pieces where you get to reveal what a horrible person you really are and gloat about it.

  63. @Alfa158
    This despicable clown is a blue-eyed White with a White Arab father and a Latvian mother. When Whites are a despised and marginalized minority, he’s going to have a lot of luck trying to pull a Rachel Dolzeal and pass as a non-White.

    THIS. Flight from white is idiotic, it’s got no endgame, it ends with the flyer on his knees covered in blood attempting to argue semantics with an angry kang.

    • Replies: @dimples
    Please, not THIS, or this, thanks. Once is enough, more than that not.
  64. Is the New Yorker a 21st century form of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanity_press ?

    Btw, why do “Egyptians” speak Arabic and not Coptic (i.e., Egyptian)?

    • Replies: @Flip

    Btw, why do “Egyptians” speak Arabic and not Coptic (i.e., Egyptian)?
     
    They were conquered by Arabs in the 600s AD.
  65. ….a professor at Lewis and Clark College.
    I bet his students learn a lot!

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson Three

    ….a professor at Lewis and Clark College.
     
    How can he stand to work at an institution named for Lewis and Clark? Shouldn't they rename it Sacagawea College? Why isn't he leading a woke protest? Oh, it hurts the brand and reduces donations and applicants? And the ingrate might lose his job?

    Secession is looking better all the time. Let's have an amicable divorce.
    , @res

    I bet his students learn a lot!
     
    And some of it might even be true.
  66. @black sea

    … But, since my father died, I have found myself wondering about the rage I saw in him as he grew older, and whether it might have reflected the refusal of his adopted and beloved country to see him.
     
    As incidents of White racism become more and more scarce on the ground, People of Color (or in this guy's case, Aspirational People of Color) are forced to trundle out these entirely unfalsifiable accusations of bigotry or systemic racism or micro-aggression.

    His father's adopted country refused to see him. Well, according to the man's obituary, after moving to California at the age of 14,"Joe and his siblings thrived in their new home and Joe learned English from comic books and movies. Offered a generous opportunity to study at Seattle University, he moved to Seattle to complete an undergraduate degree and then pursued Master’s classes at the University of Washington." The father went on to become a successful salesman, and then a high school teacher, a job which he evidently found both "energizing" and rewarding. While we know almost nothing about the details of the father's private life, it's hard to bend this skeletal biography into the shape of immigrant tragedy.

    What exactly should his friends, neighbors, and co-workers have done to see him? Having moved to America -- California, no less -- prior to the era of opportunistic victimhood, perhaps he wanted to be seen as a gregarious and successful American who had found his place in a new culture. I think this piece is really more about a son's dismissal of his father than it is about America's.

    Most White “racism” of the past was simply white people not putting up with the egregious shit of these demented dysfunctional overgrown infants, and acting accordingly.

  67. @danand
    Pauls’ brother, Steve, had this to say:

    “March 31st, Dad would have been 88 today.
    My siblings and I each had our own relationship with our Dad. I think we all agree he was a complicated person. I'm glad my brother Pauls wrote this--it explores things that are very painful--to me it feels like an act of love.”
     
    https://flic.kr/p/2iLMWGn

    Maybe the boys take after their mother?

    Yikes. If they have anything to complain about their father’s legacy to them, it my be their appearance.

  68. Off-topic: The US has been shamed by world & domestic media for making noises about restricting mask exports. But they all went easy on other offending nations, with the exception of China. Here is a way to decide who is being comparably stingy: The ratio of Masks produced per day to confirmed coronavirus cases. With 116 Million/day or 42 Billion/year produced, China has about 6X US mask production (4.7 Billion/year in 2017) and China also has ~80,000 confirmed CV cases (yes I know they lie) vs 270,000 in the US. So China has a ~20X higher ratio of masks produced per day per Coronavirus case ratio. But Taiwan is far more prolific – with 12.6 Million Masks produced per day they about match US production and have only 313 cases, so they have an astonishing ~860X higher ratio, and this implicitly assumes the US goes through with restricting exports so they are overwhelmingly available domestically as Taiwan already does (minus a planned future one-time 10Million donation to the world and 100k/week to the US)). It is admittedly partially circular – more masks probably help keep the number of cases down which makes the ratio higher. Strength begets strength.

    With 25% of the world’s confirmed cases, the US likely has far less than 25% of the worlds masks at its disposal – the MSM needs to address that. I thought that with NYC being the current US epicenter of Coronavirus the MSM would have self-preservation instinct (“Because we live here”) and not pillory the Administration for wanting to restrict exports – but it appears their Trump-derangement Syndrome overrides even self-preservation.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    "Because we live here" is surprisingly often the beginning of wisdom.
    , @SFG
    They're annoyed at Trump for holding up the ventilators, I think.

    Plus NYC got hit a lot harder than other places. Lots of people here blame the Chinese and people on the left blame Trump, but I think it was probably inevitable given its density.

    , @Lagertha
    also OT: Shulkin, snake that he is, made a comment that VA Hospitals are woefully unprepared!?!

    Trump and the military must immediately


    lock down
     
    all VA hospitals:

    armed marines/army
     
    guarding every entrance/interrogating every delivery person/fake doctors & nurses/ANYONE who tries to enter these hospitals or deliver sketchy material to these hospitals.

    I sense a move to bring massive Covid 19 deaths to these patients in specifically, VA hospitals. The army needs to treat all people trying to gain entry to these hospitals as hostiles.

  69. I don’t get leftists like this guy. I am careful to not crush my own friends political opinions into dust and give the impression I respect their opinion, even while disagreeing with it – I mostly try and talk about subjects we share ground on. But this guy treated his own father like crap for political disagreements. Was it worth it? Does this guy feel guilty for it so he is trying to make his father into some kind of troglodyte?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    The left is a cult which wishes to eliminate all possible foci of loyalty, energy, and respect, except for itself, and the State which they hope to build and control.
  70. @Jonathan Mason
    Oh for heaven's sake! My own father was born in Egypt in 1925. He was never considered to be anything other than white even though there was some kind of mixture somewhere in his mother's family, probably a bit of Syrian.

    But he could have called himself African American if he wanted because Egypt is in Africa.

    Ah. That explains why you think the white girls in Rotherham were asking for it. Is Pakipology a thing for Egyptians?

  71. @Richard of Melbourne
    The father sounds like an OK guy - someone you would be happy to have a beer with.

    What a sad fate for him, that his son turned out to be a miserable, whining POS.

    Good comment, RoM.

    Toutonghi the lesser holds an associate professorship at Lewis and Clark, plus his writing is commercially successful, and he has time for this whiny, self-stroking horsepuckey. His piece is big-time dishonest, bad-faith victimization narrative that may be used to shield him from envious precariat colleagues who are working on year-to-year contracts. Publicly he works the oh-the-suffering racket; privately, he happily cashes his salary and royalty checks.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Right, as an older white Christian professor, he would be highly vulnerable to being #MeTooed in order to clear him out of his otherwise lifetime slot. How are we ever going to achieve diversity in the English Department if the white men with tenure stick around for another two or three decades? You literally have to wait for someone to die for a slot to open up. Maybe Wuhan Virus will speed up the process but up until now there were very few ways to get rid of these foul white men. It's easy enough to take the portraits of the dead ones down from the wall but the living breathing ones with tenure are a different matter.

    Maybe one of his former female students suddenly "remembers" that years during office hours he felt her up or something like that. This will trigger an investigation and in the meantime he is suspended from teaching or interacting with students. Maybe the investigation turns up other embarrassing stuff. It turns out that the university has records of all the websites that he visited from his office computer, even when he had his browser set on private. Now that this woman has come forward, several of his other former students remember certain inappropriate remarks that he made in 2009. He could tough it out or the university is offering him a severance package - if he goes away quietly, the investigation is terminated, he gets two years salary as severance and his full pension and can "resign".

    But as a brown Egyptian Muslim, he sits higher on the Diversity Totem Pole than a white woman and he has a certain amount of immunity in these ambiguous he said/she said situations. We should "Believe Women" when they accuse white guys but if the accused is a minority it's not so simple. We all remember the long history in America of brown men being falsely accused blah blah blah.

    Not to mention, "old white guy" pitching proposal for a book, for a lecture tour, etc. - gag me with a spoon. But, diverse brown Egyptian Arab Muslim intellectual - sign him up! Sexy!

    Now in the old days this exact process went on, but in the opposite direction. The Arab Eastern Christian Muzyad Yakhoob Kairouz becomes the white American Roman Catholic "Danny Thomas" because Muzyad knew which one was more advantageous for his career. In Toutonghi's case, his family has crossed the color line twice - once from brown(ish)* to white and now back again. I don't think they have to worry about a 3rd time because I don't see it ever becoming advantageous to be white in America ever again.

    Even if he hasn't thought this through on a conscious level, it's not necessary that he do so. Bin Laden said that when people are asked to choose between the strong horse and the weak horse they will always pick the strong horse and subconsciously Pauls knew which team is the better team for his career.

    *Not really. Even in the bad old days, Arab Christian immigrants (the only kind - Muslim immigrants were rare) were always considered "white".

  72. Even in death, I was unable to forgive my father for the way he’d turned against his heritage, fallen under the thrall of right-wing demagogues on radio and television.

    How revolting!

    I don’t like my parents’ political views (between the two of them, they have voted in Presidential elections of 26 occasions, and other than for 2000 – when they both voted for George W. Bush – and 1980 – when my father voted for a leftist 3rd party nominee, Barry Commoner of the Citizens Party – the other 23 instances were all Democrat votes), and they don’t like mine (I’m a not-entirely-“ex”-fascist), but we put that crap aside, because we’re not total degenerates.

    Family > partisan affiliation

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    For those wondering, Commoner finished 5th in 1980, behind John Anderson and Libertarian Ed Clark. Clark's running mate was David Koch, who was one of the Koch Brothers.
  73. @Scott Novak
    Off-topic: The US has been shamed by world & domestic media for making noises about restricting mask exports. But they all went easy on other offending nations, with the exception of China. Here is a way to decide who is being comparably stingy: The ratio of Masks produced per day to confirmed coronavirus cases. With 116 Million/day or 42 Billion/year produced, China has about 6X US mask production (4.7 Billion/year in 2017) and China also has ~80,000 confirmed CV cases (yes I know they lie) vs 270,000 in the US. So China has a ~20X higher ratio of masks produced per day per Coronavirus case ratio. But Taiwan is far more prolific - with 12.6 Million Masks produced per day they about match US production and have only 313 cases, so they have an astonishing ~860X higher ratio, and this implicitly assumes the US goes through with restricting exports so they are overwhelmingly available domestically as Taiwan already does (minus a planned future one-time 10Million donation to the world and 100k/week to the US)). It is admittedly partially circular - more masks probably help keep the number of cases down which makes the ratio higher. Strength begets strength.

    With 25% of the world's confirmed cases, the US likely has far less than 25% of the worlds masks at its disposal - the MSM needs to address that. I thought that with NYC being the current US epicenter of Coronavirus the MSM would have self-preservation instinct ("Because we live here") and not pillory the Administration for wanting to restrict exports - but it appears their Trump-derangement Syndrome overrides even self-preservation.

    “Because we live here” is surprisingly often the beginning of wisdom.

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG0mm4-7TgU
    , @Corvinus
    "“Because we live here” is surprisingly often the beginning of wisdom."

    Which, if you would be willing to NOTICE rather than be cagey, President Trump is devoid of. See, I thought he would be clamping down on American companies engaging in this unpatriotic activity.

    https://theintercept.com/2020/04/01/coronavirus-medical-supplies-export/


    The U.S. government has placed no restrictions on exports of medical supplies while continuing to impose financial penalties on the import of personal protective gear, protective goggles, pulse oximeters, hand sanitizer, and other medical products from China.
     
    Meaning that our own corporations are profiting while our own people #DieForTheDow.

    https://theintercept.com/2020/04/01/coronavirus-medical-supplies-export

    Then again, Trump had the federal government compete with state governments for those limited domestic supplies.

    https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2020/03/26/charlie-baker-trump-administration-medical-supplies

    Should not the allegedly nationalistic Trump been consistently badgering our own corporations to make masks here, rather than import them? Why should our precious dollars be siphoned off to China? Although, the world is competing for those resources. Might as well beg, borrow, cheat, and steal...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/03/white-house-scrambles-scoop-up-medical-supplies-angering-canada-germany/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/business/coronavirus-china-masks.html

    Indeed, the CDC and FDA should help out, although it appears that imported masks do not necessarily measure up to our [gold] standard (because we live here, right, Mr. Sailer). I mean, it makes sense for our own medical professionals to be safe and secure with masks imported from Kenya or Brazil or India.

    Calling Jared Kushner, medical extraordinaire (snicker snack) to the rescue?

    https://reason.com/2020/03/31/america-could-import-countless-more-face-masks-if-federal-regulators-would-get-out-of-the-way/


    "[O]ne of the reasons why America is facing a face mask shortage is the CDC itself. Hospitals are only allowed to purchase masks from suppliers certified by both the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA)—though they can accept donations from any source (more on that in a moment). Many foreign companies that make face masks lack those certifications, which limits the imported supply available to meet America's rising demand. Even suppliers who are certified to sell masks to Americans have to navigate a weeks-long bureaucratic process before orders can be fulfilled. Suppliers who aren't certified by those federal agencies can't legally bring their products into the United States. That means supplies of KN95 masks—a Chinese certification for face masks that 3M Corporation's personal safety division says are "reasonable to consider….as equivalent" to N95 masks—can't be legally imported by hospitals for health care workers to use."
     
    , @Kylie
    "'Because we live here' is surprisingly often the beginning of wisdom."

    And it's surprising how often the ignorant or even the unintelligent can acquire wisdom; the irrational, never.
  74. @Scott Novak
    I don't get leftists like this guy. I am careful to not crush my own friends political opinions into dust and give the impression I respect their opinion, even while disagreeing with it - I mostly try and talk about subjects we share ground on. But this guy treated his own father like crap for political disagreements. Was it worth it? Does this guy feel guilty for it so he is trying to make his father into some kind of troglodyte?

    The left is a cult which wishes to eliminate all possible foci of loyalty, energy, and respect, except for itself, and the State which they hope to build and control.

    • Agree: sayless, Hail
  75. @Mr. Anon
    Danny Thomas was so marginalized as an Arab-American, that he could never accomplish anything, what with The (White) Man putting him down:

    https://townsquare.media/site/241/files/2013/02/St.-Jude1.jpg?w=980&q=75

    Moreover, his family never amounted to anything. Why, white people didn't even bother to call his daughter by her name.

    To them, she was just..................that girl:

    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/[email protected]_V1_.jpg

    Amazingly enough, she has no children. Her husband Phil Donahue has 5 children with his first wife.

    Here’s something I didn’t know. Her brother Tony is a TV producer who is responsible for such hits as Soap, Benson, and The Golden Girls.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    "Amazingly enough, she has no children"

    TV/Hollywood seems to be a fertility sink for women. Music, too. Look at Stevie Nicks regretting her abortion, Kylie Minogue. Whereas male stars like Jagger, Rod Stewart, Paul Weller, loads of soul artists have many children.

  76. Wow, sneaking a non-Kung Flu comment in there during my down time… takes a lot of gall, Steve. I gotta wait for your morning coffee before I can get in any snarky comments, dammit.

    I’ve mentioned before, I believe, the paint matching machines that have been at Lowes for 25 years now. They can’t cost THAT much, especially compared to one of those fancy caskets. I can see a new market for these things. Beside funeral homes, anywhere there is a reason to determine whiteness, one can use one of these machines. HR interview rooms, college admission offices, you name it, there’s a new market.

    You stick your forehead and maybe a dozen other areas of your skin up to the sensor for a good average and let the machine determine how white you are. Cream, eggshell, ivory, baby powder white, vanilla, anything in the white table in the database, or for that matter, any additive-3-color hex values that are all greater than D0 will suffice. Let’s quantify this thing.

  77. Does not identify with mom.
    Believes the only religion in the mid east is christian.

  78. @Stan
    Cross cultural and inter-ethnic marriages seem to produce confused and angry offspring. Pauls Toutonghi is defective product of the melting pot. Not only is it a flight from white, it is a repudiation of Christianity. Now wonder it was published by the New Yorker.

    His father was an oppressed minority where he came from (there are fewer then 10,000 Syrian Melkite Catholics in Egypt, a minority within a minority, pre-Arab), and he the son identifies with the oppressors. But sees it himself in the exact opposite way.

    • Agree: West Reanimator, Stan, bubba
  79. @Grumpy
    What kind of person writes something like this about his father?

    Someone who didn’t get along with him. Family drama is a big thing–look at Star Wars. Space Western, yeah, but it’s also the story of a boy who is very angry at his father.

    I always wondered if the negative portrayal of fathers in fiction (even pre-feminism) had to do with the fact that writing usually doesn’t pay (as with the arts in general), so most dads would discourage their sons from doing it. Guys close to their dads who go into the family business in, say, lumber don’t write novels. There was the Bach family, but classical music doesn’t have people in it–it’s highly organized sound.

    The only counterexamples I can think of off the top of my head would be Joe Hill (son of Stephen King) and Max Brooks (son of Mel Brooks). How do dads come off in their books?

    • Replies: @Sol
    Luke angry with Darth Vader? Their relationship wasn't pre-planned by Lucas, and Luke is sad about his father for much of #3.
  80. @Scott Novak
    Off-topic: The US has been shamed by world & domestic media for making noises about restricting mask exports. But they all went easy on other offending nations, with the exception of China. Here is a way to decide who is being comparably stingy: The ratio of Masks produced per day to confirmed coronavirus cases. With 116 Million/day or 42 Billion/year produced, China has about 6X US mask production (4.7 Billion/year in 2017) and China also has ~80,000 confirmed CV cases (yes I know they lie) vs 270,000 in the US. So China has a ~20X higher ratio of masks produced per day per Coronavirus case ratio. But Taiwan is far more prolific - with 12.6 Million Masks produced per day they about match US production and have only 313 cases, so they have an astonishing ~860X higher ratio, and this implicitly assumes the US goes through with restricting exports so they are overwhelmingly available domestically as Taiwan already does (minus a planned future one-time 10Million donation to the world and 100k/week to the US)). It is admittedly partially circular - more masks probably help keep the number of cases down which makes the ratio higher. Strength begets strength.

    With 25% of the world's confirmed cases, the US likely has far less than 25% of the worlds masks at its disposal - the MSM needs to address that. I thought that with NYC being the current US epicenter of Coronavirus the MSM would have self-preservation instinct ("Because we live here") and not pillory the Administration for wanting to restrict exports - but it appears their Trump-derangement Syndrome overrides even self-preservation.

    They’re annoyed at Trump for holding up the ventilators, I think.

    Plus NYC got hit a lot harder than other places. Lots of people here blame the Chinese and people on the left blame Trump, but I think it was probably inevitable given its density.

  81. @Servant of Gla'aki

    Even in death, I was unable to forgive my father for the way he’d turned against his heritage, fallen under the thrall of right-wing demagogues on radio and television.
     
    How revolting!

    I don't like my parents' political views (between the two of them, they have voted in Presidential elections of 26 occasions, and other than for 2000 - when they both voted for George W. Bush - and 1980 - when my father voted for a leftist 3rd party nominee, Barry Commoner of the Citizens Party - the other 23 instances were all Democrat votes), and they don't like mine (I'm a not-entirely-"ex"-fascist), but we put that crap aside, because we're not total degenerates.

    Family > partisan affiliation

    For those wondering, Commoner finished 5th in 1980, behind John Anderson and Libertarian Ed Clark. Clark’s running mate was David Koch, who was one of the Koch Brothers.

  82. Why don’t such people prove that they mean what they say and return to their place of origin? It isn’t so hard to do. Same question for all the blacks who whine about white racism. There are dozens of black-majority countries in Africa. If white racism were really a problem for them, wouldn’t they be leaving in droves? Wouldn’t most of them already be gone? Like so many other human beings, they want the advantages while complaining about the disadvantages. My answer to them all is: Fine, do whatever you want; just don’t make me listen to your music.

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams

    Same question for all the blacks who whine about white racism. There are dozens of black-majority countries in Africa. If white racism were really a problem for them, wouldn’t they be leaving in droves?
     
    Many of them seem to believe that blacks built America, in the sense that black slave labor was the foundation of our material success and that today’s prosperity (well, February’s ...) is the direct result.

    Therefore this would really be more their country than ours, if you stop and think about it. Whites are the problem. Strip them of their ill-gotten wealth, and then return it to the blacks who earned it. Then America would be a nice place to live.

    The New York Times has been promoting this as straightforward fact, without nuance.

  83. Hey, Steve, still up? WTF?

    If you still are, I’m bringing this guy up since you like celebrities: Kasey Kasem, of American Top 40 fame, was born in Detroit, but of Lebanese Druze background. Per Wiki just now, his parents insisted on him not speaking any Arabic. They were trying to turn out an assimilated anti-Toutonghi, and back then, it was a lot easier to be successful at that.

    You’ve gotta remember too, but if you didn’t follow People magazine or what-have-you, you would have no idea what a lot of people on the radio looked like. I had no idea till decades later that this guy wasn’t simply Casey Kasem, as American as me. Well, he was, I guess.

    Speaking of this radio thing, we had a 1 dollar bet about a local guy who would give some short farm report daily on whether he was black or white. He had this old-man croaky kind of voice, so I could imagine him either way. We called up the DJ at the station. I forget now who won the buck, or whether he was white or black!

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Zoiks!
    , @ben tillman

    You’ve gotta remember too, but if you didn’t follow People magazine or what-have-you, you would have no idea what a lot of people on the radio looked like.
     
    Surely you had seen him on TV:

    https://www.destructoid.com//ul/541821-shaggy%20mk%2011%20deconfirmed.jpg

    , @Known Fact
    Along with Scooby Doo and Top 40, the multi-talented Kasem flashed his dramatic chops -- as an appliance-store salesman in deep with the mob -- in Steal Now Pay Later, a fine 1974 Hawaii 5-0. Sleazy Ray Danton and icy Laraine Stephens were the heavies.

    Great closing scene, and the 1974 version of a Best Buy-type store is a riot.

    https://youtu.be/BrMyl0VOQNQ

  84. @Reg Cæsar

    I couldn’t forgive the horrible things he’d taken to saying about the Middle East, the hatred he’d directed at Muslims, in particular...
     
    Thanks to his father, Toutonghi the younger was born in a country where tattooing a newborn is illegal, rather than advisable.


    Meet A Family That Has Tattoed Christians In Jerusalem For 700 Years

    Coptic Christian children: Kidnapped and killed for cash

    Egypt’s silent epidemic of kidnapped Christian girls


    https://www.bibliatodo.com/En/christian-news/files/2017/08/tattoo.jpg

    https://ssl.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000AIYxBAx1I8A/s/1200/I0000AIYxBAx1I8A.jpg

    The tattooing is done by the Christians, the kidnapping, and taking of the girls, by the Muslims. His father wasn’t Coptic but Melkite Catholic, so probably no tattoos. But who knows.

    It’s pretty fascinating to me how the father clearly saw Islam as a threat and the son has some kind of identification with it as being oppressed by the culture he grew up in. Must be all the wars we get involved in over there.

  85. So he’s mad because his dad was still nursing a grudge against Muslims, who had been oppressing his people for 1400 years, instead of making common cause with them against Europeans, who gave him prosperity and freedom.

    Sounds like the disgraceful one is the child, not the father.

    • Agree: Travis
  86. OT, maybe you already posted this and I missed it, but here is a super-spreader at an Austrian ski resort. A bartender. Which explains high rates of the China Virus among well-heeled ski bunnies: https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/2020/03/22/austrias-white-winters-dream-ski-paradise-now-more-of-a-nightmare.html

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    RW, there was a "super spreader", to use your term, of AIDS. He was a male flight attendant for Air France IIRC. Fly into and out of cities all over the globe.
  87. He’s one of those people who have to identify with the Other and then whine about it. It’s easy in a country like America. In North Africa or the Middle East, he’d be just another Muslim, and if he belonged to a religious minority there his life could be in danger.

  88. @Mr McKenna
    Apparently they tried to shut him down and failed. His technorogy too advance! Either that or the word 'hacker' is used to assure us that the malefactor couldn't possibly be a black guy running a hoax.

    In having access to speech, he hacked their minds. Like what Russia did to all of us.

  89. @Mr McKenna


    “I’m pretty sure that nobody ever thought he was white,” I said.
     
    Let me guess, the author was Literally Shaking at this point?

    Sorry, but this entire post is major Corvinus Bait.

    …major Corvinus Bait.

    That’s Corvinus-19 to you, buddy.

  90. Anonymous[161] • Disclaimer says:

    He reminds me of someone I know. Her father has blue eyes and light brown hair. Mother has black hair and very light hazel brown eyes. Because they’re old stock Americans southerners who moved north, like many they’ve always assumed there’s a bit of Indian somewhere. 3 siblings have blue eyes and brown hair. She has golden hazel eyes and black hair. Ever since she went off to college and learned the shame of being White and the advantages of being a downtrodden minority, she’s made a big deal of being part American Indian.

    She had her DNA done. To her great dismay not a speck of Indian or African. 97 percent mostly British Irish and Scandinavian and some French and German Not just European but Northern European But 2 percent was Iberian. The last 1 percent was a bit of basque Italian Turk Hungarian and Slavic. So now she’s central Asian because of the tiny bit of Turk Hungarian and Latin because of the Iberian Italian.

    Then there’s AOC’s White boyfriend standing with her as she denounces Whites.

  91. Tucker Carlson is right about these people, ‘they don’t make their beds and they hate their dads’. This guy still nurses the grudge 3 years after his father’s passing.

    There are some Egyptians who are blonde and blue-eyed, presumably descended from Varangian raiders. This author’s ancestors were whites from Syrian, and he is part-latvian to boot. Clearly his whiteness is what propelled him to these academic heights so he should relinquish those ill-gotten gains.

    Interesting, I first learned about Frantz Fanon from the movie Luce which I watched recently. Racial agitprop but gripping movie nonetheless. Good acting and well-written.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    Not necessarily descendants of Varangians. A small minority of Arabs are simply blonde and blue-eyed. If it comes from any source, it's probably a throwback to native North African populations (similar to Kabyle Berbers),

    Just like a minority of Swedes look like Antonio Banderas. It doesn't mean they are descendants of Spanish court musicians.

    The Guanches were blondish and had no connection to Germanic tribes.
  92. If you dont like white people, dont move to a majority-white country.

  93. This guy is a bore. As Egyptian-Americans looking to reconnect with their roots go, I much prefer Rami Youssef.

    Maybe Rami is more normal because he’s Egyptian on both sides. Less angst and confusion about who he is.

    BTW I’ve changed my handle. My old handle was “International Jew”. I hope that’s ok…

    • Replies: @anon
    BTW I’ve changed my handle.

    Before you were someone Henry Ford was concerned about, now you're a hot dog?
    Isn't that rather a demotion?
    , @Old Palo Altan
    A pity. I liked "International Jew". Redolent of better times.

    And I mostly liked your comments as well.

    One can hope that that approval will continue, but "Hebrew National"?

    Since Hebrew isn't a nation, and since you didn't use the more obvious "Israeli" presumably because that is precisely what you didn't mean to say, well then, what do you mean to say?

    Or rather imply.
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    My favorite hot dogs!

    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61S6gtTXKaL._SY300_QL70_.jpg

    Good choice.
    , @Shmendrix
    Well, it's about time. In the old pre-Unz days of iSteve, that was MY handle.
    , @William Badwhite
    I like your hot dogs

    https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/747fed2a-9929-467d-94a7-bfae2a5f7240_1.415016cdafcc14e9279900c2b0009310.jpeg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF
    , @snorlax
    So now we know the power behind the Jews?

    https://corporategreedchronicles.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/conagra_genetically_modified_foods_you_love.jpg
    , @Shmendrix
    Well, it's about time. Back in the pre-Unz iSteve days, "International Jew" was MY handle.
    , @Eagle Eye

    BTW I’ve changed my handle. My old handle was “International Jew”. I hope that’s ok…
     
    Welcoming the post-transition Hebrew National is a good excuse to repeat his deadpan line about a Japanese research paper someone had mentioned:


    Well documented. Japanese peer reviewed paper about bathroom contamination.
     
    Peers reviewing a paper about peeing strikes me as a conflict of interest.

     

    , @PiltdownMan

    BTW I’ve changed my handle. My old handle was “International Jew”. I hope that’s ok…
     
    Did you consider "International Hebrew?" The pun would still have been preserved, and it would have linked you to the old name.

    Anyway, the new name makes me wish we could all gather outside and eat hot dogs. I hope that we can, by July 4th.
  94. The dude got to have the last word. But he’s still not happy. Oh well.

  95. @Achmed E. Newman
    Hey, Steve, still up? WTF?

    If you still are, I'm bringing this guy up since you like celebrities: Kasey Kasem, of American Top 40 fame, was born in Detroit, but of Lebanese Druze background. Per Wiki just now, his parents insisted on him not speaking any Arabic. They were trying to turn out an assimilated anti-Toutonghi, and back then, it was a lot easier to be successful at that.

    You've gotta remember too, but if you didn't follow People magazine or what-have-you, you would have no idea what a lot of people on the radio looked like. I had no idea till decades later that this guy wasn't simply Casey Kasem, as American as me. Well, he was, I guess.

    Speaking of this radio thing, we had a 1 dollar bet about a local guy who would give some short farm report daily on whether he was black or white. He had this old-man croaky kind of voice, so I could imagine him either way. We called up the DJ at the station. I forget now who won the buck, or whether he was white or black!

    Zoiks!

  96. @Change that Matters
    The subtext of this piece is: "Just you wait, Pa, I'll show you who's the better man."

    Pauls Toutonghi left it until his father was dead to show him who's best, a reliable indicator of his low ranking on the male socio-sexual hierarchy. His father has to bear some responsibility for that (which may explain the late-life rage his son witnessed), but no family should be burdened with males so weak they publicly desecrate familial heritage in a vain attempt to demonstrate superiority over an obviously more substantial father.

    Imagine not being man enough to make peace with an elderly father to whom you owe everything and having no clue about he regret this article will cause him at some future point of his life.

    If this clown could write this in the first place, and put it out for print, I rather doubt that he will come to regret it later on. Rather, being the inadequate, ungrateful POS he is, he will only double down on it. So as not to show weakness, you know. Too late, beotch, you have already broadcast to the world just what a weak, craven coward you are.

  97. Progressives have an incredible capacity to believe that their worldview is the natural order and that all deviations from it are caused by evil spirits. So you end up with people like this guy telling you his middle eastern christian father disliked muslims because of… fox news and talk radio.

  98. @Alfa158
    This despicable clown is a blue-eyed White with a White Arab father and a Latvian mother. When Whites are a despised and marginalized minority, he’s going to have a lot of luck trying to pull a Rachel Dolzeal and pass as a non-White.

    Does the Latvian mother have any Jewish ancestry? Is she of primarily Lutheran background?

  99. @Redneck farmer
    ....a professor at Lewis and Clark College.
    I bet his students learn a lot!

    ….a professor at Lewis and Clark College.

    How can he stand to work at an institution named for Lewis and Clark? Shouldn’t they rename it Sacagawea College? Why isn’t he leading a woke protest? Oh, it hurts the brand and reduces donations and applicants? And the ingrate might lose his job?

    Secession is looking better all the time. Let’s have an amicable divorce.

    • Agree: Sol
  100. This is just a classic example of the very simple and inflexible arithmetic of White race-mixing…

    White plus White equals White.
    White plus Non-White equals Non-White.
    There is no outcome where White plus Non-White equals White.

    Additionally…

    White plus Non-White equals Anti-White.

    Here is a delightful dessert recipe from THE MULTICULTURAL GOURMET (edited by I. Rosenbaum, with a Foreword by Dov Glattweiss)

    “New American” Ice Cream Sundae

    In a spacious dish, place two scoops of vanilla ice cream. Cover with two tbsp. butterscotch sauce. Top with four tbsp. of fresh whipped cream and 1/2 tsp. finely chopped walnuts. Then add two scoops of fresh, steaming dog shit. Mix well, making sure the dog shit coats everything.

    Enjoy! You’d better enjoy, because in a very short while, this will be the only recipe available. TIP: If you are squeamish about adding too much dog shit at first, try adding only a tsp. of dried dog shit flakes. Be assured that by the second generation, the flavor of dog shit will overpower everything else!

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    “New American” Ice Cream Sundae
     
    Flashback: Ben & Jerry’s new ice cream flavor

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/ben-jerrys-guide-to-systemic-racism/#comment-2075997


    L’Chaim Migration

    In recognition of the Statue of Liberty poem! Grated shards of bitter chocolate are dumped in a huddled mass on a bedrock of vanilla ice cream. Topped with a crunch-tastic cookie time bomb.
     

  101. He sounds like those second and third generation Irish-Americans who used to contribute to the IRA. Irisher than thou.

  102. Hallelujah! Steve emerges from his wuhan bunker with a triumphant return to form!

    And with a story about the brother of a high school tennis teammate of mine, no less.

    Small world indeed.

  103. @Mr McKenna


    “I’m pretty sure that nobody ever thought he was white,” I said.
     
    Let me guess, the author was Literally Shaking at this point?

    Sorry, but this entire post is major Corvinus Bait.

    Sorry, but this entire post is major Corvinus Bait.

    Corby will drop by momentarily to tell you in detail how this post is not Corby bait.

  104. @Reg Cæsar

    The New Yorker Magazine: EVERY.SINGLE.TIME!
     
    People buy it for the cartoons-- and that's what this piece is.

    Pauls Toutonghi = Pout, lashing out.

    In its March 27 issue, the New Yorker ran a cover story titled “Trump’s Dangerous Messaging About a Possible Coronavirus Treatment,” subtitled “The President has continued to recommend a combination of drugs that are unproven in fighting the novel coronavirus and are known to cause dangerous side effects.”

    I sure hope that, should they fall ill, those New Yorker editors don’t risk their lives using that dangerous coronavirus treatment now approved by the FDA.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    well, well...heard a whole bunch of doctors have been hoarding hydroxychloroquine (for their personal use/family/rich friends) in the Tri-State area. My friend is desperately trying to fill her script for her Lupus disease! You can bet New Yorkers who have means have connections to these corrupt doctors who began hoarding the meds in late February....based on my friend's knowledge. This whole thing in NYC & CT stinks to high heaven.
  105. Even in death, I was unable to forgive my father for the way he’d turned against his heritage, fallen under the thrall of right-wing demagogues on radio and television.

    Well, no kidding! You can’t do much of anything when you’re dead.

    And this is from The New Yorker! Where are the editors?

    • Replies: @anonymous
    Researching in the morgue, of course.
  106. Let’s see, no mention of a wife or kids, hates his dad. A hundred bucks says the author is gay.

    • Replies: @Alden
    The writing, literally shaking, the helplessness are very feminine.
  107. @ScarletNumber
    We have now gotten to the point where Tony Shalhoub can make it as an actor without having to change his name, even playing at Italian in Wings.

    Jameel Farah came a little earlier, so he had to become Jamie Farr, even though his character on MASH was explicitly Lebanese.

    Jameel Farah came a little earlier, so he had to become Jamie Farr, even though his character on MASH was explicitly Lebanese.

    Really? Explicitly Lebanese…..and yet there are those who say the US is homophobic.

    (Sorry…..couldn’t resist! Old Benny Hill bit.)

    • Replies: @jon
    Growing up, my friends and I used to call lesbians Lebanese, didn't realize that came from Benny Hill.
  108. OT:

    ‘Allahu Akbar’ Migrant Knifeman Kills Two, Wounds Seven in France

    Thank God, a springtime story about how normal life returns.

    • LOL: fish
  109. do these morons really feel they are fooling anybody ?

    I worked with a women , thought she was white. We had a “diversity” meeting of some kind….I was shocked when she described how it was tough growing up in the suburbs of Chicago as the only “Brown Girl” in her school…..Her Mother was Mexican, father was white. She looked no darker than the typical Italians and Greeks in my town. So I was shocked when she described herself as a person of color. I expected the Black folks in the room to roll their eyes when she described herself as a person of color. Then another colleague described how he was just a typical white guy from Jersey, yet he was clearly hispanic looking , his mother was Dominican but he had a white father…Funny how the Dominicans love to be white, and claim to be white when they look mulatto. I almost burst out laughing when he claimed to be white , after our white boss lady claimed to be Brown….she was clearly more white than him yet he claimed to be white. I wonder if he was trolling her ? She must have been furious when he claimed to be a typical white guy instead of showing sympathy toward her rough childhood as a brown girl.

  110. @Steve Sailer
    "Because we live here" is surprisingly often the beginning of wisdom.

  111. If one looks at the instructions for the DF-258 fingerprint card used by the FBI and other parts of the government, it gives instructions for race. There are five categories to include White, Black, American Indian, Asian, and Unknown. I always joke with people that the way to tell if you are white is whether your criminal report says you are white. Every law enforcement organization in the U.S. would list Mr. Toutonghi as white.

    See https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/guidelines-for-preparation-of-fingerprint-cards-and-association-criminal-history-information.pdf/view

    page 41 of the PDF.

  112. And they say Freudianism is out of style.

  113. @Steve Sailer
    "Because we live here" is surprisingly often the beginning of wisdom.

    ““Because we live here” is surprisingly often the beginning of wisdom.”

    Which, if you would be willing to NOTICE rather than be cagey, President Trump is devoid of. See, I thought he would be clamping down on American companies engaging in this unpatriotic activity.

    https://theintercept.com/2020/04/01/coronavirus-medical-supplies-export/

    The U.S. government has placed no restrictions on exports of medical supplies while continuing to impose financial penalties on the import of personal protective gear, protective goggles, pulse oximeters, hand sanitizer, and other medical products from China.

    Meaning that our own corporations are profiting while our own people #DieForTheDow.

    https://theintercept.com/2020/04/01/coronavirus-medical-supplies-export

    Then again, Trump had the federal government compete with state governments for those limited domestic supplies.

    https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2020/03/26/charlie-baker-trump-administration-medical-supplies

    Should not the allegedly nationalistic Trump been consistently badgering our own corporations to make masks here, rather than import them? Why should our precious dollars be siphoned off to China? Although, the world is competing for those resources. Might as well beg, borrow, cheat, and steal…

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/03/white-house-scrambles-scoop-up-medical-supplies-angering-canada-germany/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/business/coronavirus-china-masks.html

    Indeed, the CDC and FDA should help out, although it appears that imported masks do not necessarily measure up to our [gold] standard (because we live here, right, Mr. Sailer). I mean, it makes sense for our own medical professionals to be safe and secure with masks imported from Kenya or Brazil or India.

    Calling Jared Kushner, medical extraordinaire (snicker snack) to the rescue?

    https://reason.com/2020/03/31/america-could-import-countless-more-face-masks-if-federal-regulators-would-get-out-of-the-way/

    “[O]ne of the reasons why America is facing a face mask shortage is the CDC itself. Hospitals are only allowed to purchase masks from suppliers certified by both the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA)—though they can accept donations from any source (more on that in a moment). Many foreign companies that make face masks lack those certifications, which limits the imported supply available to meet America’s rising demand. Even suppliers who are certified to sell masks to Americans have to navigate a weeks-long bureaucratic process before orders can be fulfilled. Suppliers who aren’t certified by those federal agencies can’t legally bring their products into the United States. That means supplies of KN95 masks—a Chinese certification for face masks that 3M Corporation’s personal safety division says are “reasonable to consider….as equivalent” to N95 masks—can’t be legally imported by hospitals for health care workers to use.”

    • Troll: R.G. Camara
    • Replies: @fish
    Kudos Corby.....to you and the rest of the writing staff!
    , @Anonymous
    Let me guess: your dad was also Egyptian & watched Fox News?
    , @William Badwhite
    No, you're wrong.

    Btw, one of your FIVE links is in there twice. You might want to hire an editor, retard.
  114. @Franz
    Personally, I'm glad this recently deceased soul -- and a decent man from what little emerges -- had a twat of a son come right out and say, all but explicitly, that Western nations aren't really nations at all. They are the putty-lands the new "enrichers" are going to turn into something good, magical, and wonderful just as soon as all us crackers finally kick off.

    At no point does this little shit weasle even consider the large number of decent white Americans who accepted his dad as one of their own. Never imagines it or adds it to his frump bucket. It's all about all the phony and retchedly overwrought evil he thinks Americans did to him by making way for his dad and treating him as one of their own. But then snakes don't think very far ahead.

    But remember, your regime says this gutter rat is enriching us. I feel richer already.

    At no point does this little shit weasle even consider the large number of decent white Americans who accepted his dad as one of their own.

    The fact that people are allowed, hell encouraged, to proclaim their victimhood proudly is the direct result of acceptance and indulgence of those in charge.

    Misbehaving children don’t have strict dads, after all.

  115. @JackOH
    Good comment, RoM.

    Toutonghi the lesser holds an associate professorship at Lewis and Clark, plus his writing is commercially successful, and he has time for this whiny, self-stroking horsepuckey. His piece is big-time dishonest, bad-faith victimization narrative that may be used to shield him from envious precariat colleagues who are working on year-to-year contracts. Publicly he works the oh-the-suffering racket; privately, he happily cashes his salary and royalty checks.

    Right, as an older white Christian professor, he would be highly vulnerable to being #MeTooed in order to clear him out of his otherwise lifetime slot. How are we ever going to achieve diversity in the English Department if the white men with tenure stick around for another two or three decades? You literally have to wait for someone to die for a slot to open up. Maybe Wuhan Virus will speed up the process but up until now there were very few ways to get rid of these foul white men. It’s easy enough to take the portraits of the dead ones down from the wall but the living breathing ones with tenure are a different matter.

    Maybe one of his former female students suddenly “remembers” that years during office hours he felt her up or something like that. This will trigger an investigation and in the meantime he is suspended from teaching or interacting with students. Maybe the investigation turns up other embarrassing stuff. It turns out that the university has records of all the websites that he visited from his office computer, even when he had his browser set on private. Now that this woman has come forward, several of his other former students remember certain inappropriate remarks that he made in 2009. He could tough it out or the university is offering him a severance package – if he goes away quietly, the investigation is terminated, he gets two years salary as severance and his full pension and can “resign”.

    But as a brown Egyptian Muslim, he sits higher on the Diversity Totem Pole than a white woman and he has a certain amount of immunity in these ambiguous he said/she said situations. We should “Believe Women” when they accuse white guys but if the accused is a minority it’s not so simple. We all remember the long history in America of brown men being falsely accused blah blah blah.

    Not to mention, “old white guy” pitching proposal for a book, for a lecture tour, etc. – gag me with a spoon. But, diverse brown Egyptian Arab Muslim intellectual – sign him up! Sexy!

    Now in the old days this exact process went on, but in the opposite direction. The Arab Eastern Christian Muzyad Yakhoob Kairouz becomes the white American Roman Catholic “Danny Thomas” because Muzyad knew which one was more advantageous for his career. In Toutonghi’s case, his family has crossed the color line twice – once from brown(ish)* to white and now back again. I don’t think they have to worry about a 3rd time because I don’t see it ever becoming advantageous to be white in America ever again.

    Even if he hasn’t thought this through on a conscious level, it’s not necessary that he do so. Bin Laden said that when people are asked to choose between the strong horse and the weak horse they will always pick the strong horse and subconsciously Pauls knew which team is the better team for his career.

    *Not really. Even in the bad old days, Arab Christian immigrants (the only kind – Muslim immigrants were rare) were always considered “white”.

    • Agree: JackOH, Alden
    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    One cannot predict the future as easily as you seem to think.

    You think his family will never want to return to white again. This is not necessarily true.

    One can imagine a time in the future when the US is more of a Latin American nation, with whites and some Asians at the top, and the browner folks lower down. The family might want to go back to white. Perhaps one of his descendants finds it better in the dating market to be a white male.
    , @Anonymous
    He could find another creative career. I hear board games are coming back; how about one where 4 malevolent blue djinn compete to swipe Orientalist trope marbles from the center: "Angry Angry Almost-Arabs"-- the New Yorker would have to want in on (((that)))
    , @res
    I wonder how he shows up in the Lewis and Clark affirmative action statistics. And whether or not that has changed over time.
    , @RSDB
    Danny Thomas was from a Maronite Catholic family.
    , @anon
    Right, as an older white Christian professor, he would be highly vulnerable to being #MeTooed in order to clear him out of his otherwise lifetime slot.

    He's teaching at a private liberal arts college in Portlandia, Oregon.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_%26_Clark_College

    About 3500 students total. In a town where Antifa gets to own downtown when they want, by the way. Yeah, he could be #MeTooed. But more likely it's just flight-from-white, which is easier to do in Portlandia where People of Color are a really small percentage of the population. Probably more Asians there than blacks, because of Intel's major site right next door in Hillsboro; more Chinese / Korean and Indians than blacks.

    Also he doesn't live in the "hood" because really and truly, Portlandia doesn't have one. It's too white for that .

    tl;dr
    He's virtue signaling. But as an English prof at a dinky college, getting a New Yorker publication sure has to look good on his C.V.

    Oh, yeah, one more thing: I wonder how his online courses via Zoom are going now? This is the kind of college that might just evaporate over the next 10 years.

  116. @BB753
    It was his son who turned against his Christian heritage by converting to Islam.
    From Egypt to Turkey, Islam is the oppressor against Christian minorities who date back before Islam even existed, and the former French and British rulers, their protectors.
    Not surprisingly, the nominally Christian USA had turned their back on them. My theory is that the USA was founded as an implicitly anti-Christian nation, as befits its masonic founding fathers.

    That conversion was the call of cultural and racial Semitism.

    This is a religious war. It is about Christ and Christendom on the one side assailed by by all things anti-Christ, which always are spearheaded by things Semitic: Jewish and Islamic/Arabic.

    • Replies: @BB753
    Well, Syria was a hotbed of Christianity for centuries. It's hard to conceive a religion having a worst impact on society, culture, science, history and civilisation than Islam.
    The French and the British could have crushed Islam for good in the last century, but instead went native, or ecumenical, that is masonic, on them.
  117. @nebulafox
    He's not mentally ill: that's an insult to mentally ill people who aren't ungrateful, sniveling jerks. He's just an idiot. He fails to understand that people outside his twisted social bubble would think him as despicable, not heroic, for bad-mouthing his late parent in the service of SJW ideology.

    The problem isn't that people like this exist, because they always do in any society. The problem is that the America's MSM is dominated by them, and is giving out social incentives for the weak-minded orbiting around them to ape their behavior.

    He’s craving status. Can’t locate a foundational sense of self, which might require work and patience, so he turns to Easy Street for validation, which is ethnic-victim status these days.

    What a lazy child.

    How old is he, anyway?

  118. Nauseating self-absorbed little shit*, ready to “debate his Dad” even when the man is at death’s door.

    The dad who actually tried to assimilate and succeeded!

    Why is it that liberasts are always about fragmentation and division? Because it’s easier to generate “morality points” that way, instead of actually achieving something?

    May the old man enjoy his rest in the afterlife.

    ___
    *Not even a “little shit” in biological reality, simply the perpetual whiny pseudo-teen of today… A “little shit” metaphysically.

  119. @Corvinus
    "“Because we live here” is surprisingly often the beginning of wisdom."

    Which, if you would be willing to NOTICE rather than be cagey, President Trump is devoid of. See, I thought he would be clamping down on American companies engaging in this unpatriotic activity.

    https://theintercept.com/2020/04/01/coronavirus-medical-supplies-export/


    The U.S. government has placed no restrictions on exports of medical supplies while continuing to impose financial penalties on the import of personal protective gear, protective goggles, pulse oximeters, hand sanitizer, and other medical products from China.
     
    Meaning that our own corporations are profiting while our own people #DieForTheDow.

    https://theintercept.com/2020/04/01/coronavirus-medical-supplies-export

    Then again, Trump had the federal government compete with state governments for those limited domestic supplies.

    https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2020/03/26/charlie-baker-trump-administration-medical-supplies

    Should not the allegedly nationalistic Trump been consistently badgering our own corporations to make masks here, rather than import them? Why should our precious dollars be siphoned off to China? Although, the world is competing for those resources. Might as well beg, borrow, cheat, and steal...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/03/white-house-scrambles-scoop-up-medical-supplies-angering-canada-germany/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/business/coronavirus-china-masks.html

    Indeed, the CDC and FDA should help out, although it appears that imported masks do not necessarily measure up to our [gold] standard (because we live here, right, Mr. Sailer). I mean, it makes sense for our own medical professionals to be safe and secure with masks imported from Kenya or Brazil or India.

    Calling Jared Kushner, medical extraordinaire (snicker snack) to the rescue?

    https://reason.com/2020/03/31/america-could-import-countless-more-face-masks-if-federal-regulators-would-get-out-of-the-way/


    "[O]ne of the reasons why America is facing a face mask shortage is the CDC itself. Hospitals are only allowed to purchase masks from suppliers certified by both the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA)—though they can accept donations from any source (more on that in a moment). Many foreign companies that make face masks lack those certifications, which limits the imported supply available to meet America's rising demand. Even suppliers who are certified to sell masks to Americans have to navigate a weeks-long bureaucratic process before orders can be fulfilled. Suppliers who aren't certified by those federal agencies can't legally bring their products into the United States. That means supplies of KN95 masks—a Chinese certification for face masks that 3M Corporation's personal safety division says are "reasonable to consider….as equivalent" to N95 masks—can't be legally imported by hospitals for health care workers to use."
     

    Kudos Corby…..to you and the rest of the writing staff!

  120. A check of Ranker.com reveals a list of 12 middle-easterners (or of ME descent) who are current or former NHL hockey players — it doesn’t get much whiter than that

    https://www.ranker.com/list/middle-eastern-hockey-players/sportsyeah

    • Replies: @Bugg
    Zibanajad's Dad was an Iranian but Christian conscript who walked away in the middle of the Iran/Iraq war and kept walking, eventually ending up in Sweden. Not included; Albanians Tie Domi nor his son Max. Don't think either consider themselves any religion any more.
  121. @Twinkie

    But then why did their parents, who had it much harder, don’t feel like that?
     
    Knowing what it was like back home. Some in the second generation have an idealized sense of the Old World of their parents (or often grandparents), especially if they aren’t successful or feel alienated. Very few, though, actually visit the ancestral lands and see them for what they really are. They are too lazy to do so and would rather keep on whining.

    Very few, though, actually visit the ancestral lands and see them for what they really are.

    Remember when Muhammad Ali got back from Africa and told the press “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat!”?

  122. @syonredux

    The New Yorker Magazine: EVERY.SINGLE.TIME!

    People buy it for the cartoons– and that’s what this piece is.
     
    Makes me long for the good old days, back when The New Yorker published fellows like James Thurber....


    https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/its-a-nave-domestic-burgundy-without-any-james-thurber.jpg


    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/07/16/ab/0716ab8ac253b75823c57ca2b9803b59.jpg

    Thanks for that, I was never able to find the original source for that amused by its presumption wine joke. Now I can quote it correctly.

  123. @Twinkie

    But then why did their parents, who had it much harder, don’t feel like that?
     
    Knowing what it was like back home. Some in the second generation have an idealized sense of the Old World of their parents (or often grandparents), especially if they aren’t successful or feel alienated. Very few, though, actually visit the ancestral lands and see them for what they really are. They are too lazy to do so and would rather keep on whining.

    Absolutely true. I know a number of Egyptian Christians (although they are Coptics, not Catholic) who felt absolutely terrified by the Muslims in their native country. Although the son reportedly spent a year in Morocco, I doubt he had the true experience of an oppressed minority that his father had in Egypt.

  124. @Tono Bungay
    Why don't such people prove that they mean what they say and return to their place of origin? It isn't so hard to do. Same question for all the blacks who whine about white racism. There are dozens of black-majority countries in Africa. If white racism were really a problem for them, wouldn't they be leaving in droves? Wouldn't most of them already be gone? Like so many other human beings, they want the advantages while complaining about the disadvantages. My answer to them all is: Fine, do whatever you want; just don't make me listen to your music.

    Same question for all the blacks who whine about white racism. There are dozens of black-majority countries in Africa. If white racism were really a problem for them, wouldn’t they be leaving in droves?

    Many of them seem to believe that blacks built America, in the sense that black slave labor was the foundation of our material success and that today’s prosperity (well, February’s …) is the direct result.

    Therefore this would really be more their country than ours, if you stop and think about it. Whites are the problem. Strip them of their ill-gotten wealth, and then return it to the blacks who earned it. Then America would be a nice place to live.

    The New York Times has been promoting this as straightforward fact, without nuance.

  125. @Jack D
    Right, as an older white Christian professor, he would be highly vulnerable to being #MeTooed in order to clear him out of his otherwise lifetime slot. How are we ever going to achieve diversity in the English Department if the white men with tenure stick around for another two or three decades? You literally have to wait for someone to die for a slot to open up. Maybe Wuhan Virus will speed up the process but up until now there were very few ways to get rid of these foul white men. It's easy enough to take the portraits of the dead ones down from the wall but the living breathing ones with tenure are a different matter.

    Maybe one of his former female students suddenly "remembers" that years during office hours he felt her up or something like that. This will trigger an investigation and in the meantime he is suspended from teaching or interacting with students. Maybe the investigation turns up other embarrassing stuff. It turns out that the university has records of all the websites that he visited from his office computer, even when he had his browser set on private. Now that this woman has come forward, several of his other former students remember certain inappropriate remarks that he made in 2009. He could tough it out or the university is offering him a severance package - if he goes away quietly, the investigation is terminated, he gets two years salary as severance and his full pension and can "resign".

    But as a brown Egyptian Muslim, he sits higher on the Diversity Totem Pole than a white woman and he has a certain amount of immunity in these ambiguous he said/she said situations. We should "Believe Women" when they accuse white guys but if the accused is a minority it's not so simple. We all remember the long history in America of brown men being falsely accused blah blah blah.

    Not to mention, "old white guy" pitching proposal for a book, for a lecture tour, etc. - gag me with a spoon. But, diverse brown Egyptian Arab Muslim intellectual - sign him up! Sexy!

    Now in the old days this exact process went on, but in the opposite direction. The Arab Eastern Christian Muzyad Yakhoob Kairouz becomes the white American Roman Catholic "Danny Thomas" because Muzyad knew which one was more advantageous for his career. In Toutonghi's case, his family has crossed the color line twice - once from brown(ish)* to white and now back again. I don't think they have to worry about a 3rd time because I don't see it ever becoming advantageous to be white in America ever again.

    Even if he hasn't thought this through on a conscious level, it's not necessary that he do so. Bin Laden said that when people are asked to choose between the strong horse and the weak horse they will always pick the strong horse and subconsciously Pauls knew which team is the better team for his career.

    *Not really. Even in the bad old days, Arab Christian immigrants (the only kind - Muslim immigrants were rare) were always considered "white".

    One cannot predict the future as easily as you seem to think.

    You think his family will never want to return to white again. This is not necessarily true.

    One can imagine a time in the future when the US is more of a Latin American nation, with whites and some Asians at the top, and the browner folks lower down. The family might want to go back to white. Perhaps one of his descendants finds it better in the dating market to be a white male.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Toutonghi never actually left being white. He doesn't live in the 'hood. He doesn't run a bodega or drive a taxi, his kids aren't dealing drugs. He is just LARPing at being brown because of the career advantages. In any situation where it still pays to be "white" (and there still are a few) he can instantly end his little LARP and be a respectable white professional. He gets the best of both worlds.
    , @William Badwhite

    One cannot predict the future as easily as you seem to think.
     
    Says the guy whose explanation for everything is "models have shown..."
  126. Anonymous[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    "“Because we live here” is surprisingly often the beginning of wisdom."

    Which, if you would be willing to NOTICE rather than be cagey, President Trump is devoid of. See, I thought he would be clamping down on American companies engaging in this unpatriotic activity.

    https://theintercept.com/2020/04/01/coronavirus-medical-supplies-export/


    The U.S. government has placed no restrictions on exports of medical supplies while continuing to impose financial penalties on the import of personal protective gear, protective goggles, pulse oximeters, hand sanitizer, and other medical products from China.
     
    Meaning that our own corporations are profiting while our own people #DieForTheDow.

    https://theintercept.com/2020/04/01/coronavirus-medical-supplies-export

    Then again, Trump had the federal government compete with state governments for those limited domestic supplies.

    https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2020/03/26/charlie-baker-trump-administration-medical-supplies

    Should not the allegedly nationalistic Trump been consistently badgering our own corporations to make masks here, rather than import them? Why should our precious dollars be siphoned off to China? Although, the world is competing for those resources. Might as well beg, borrow, cheat, and steal...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/03/white-house-scrambles-scoop-up-medical-supplies-angering-canada-germany/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/business/coronavirus-china-masks.html

    Indeed, the CDC and FDA should help out, although it appears that imported masks do not necessarily measure up to our [gold] standard (because we live here, right, Mr. Sailer). I mean, it makes sense for our own medical professionals to be safe and secure with masks imported from Kenya or Brazil or India.

    Calling Jared Kushner, medical extraordinaire (snicker snack) to the rescue?

    https://reason.com/2020/03/31/america-could-import-countless-more-face-masks-if-federal-regulators-would-get-out-of-the-way/


    "[O]ne of the reasons why America is facing a face mask shortage is the CDC itself. Hospitals are only allowed to purchase masks from suppliers certified by both the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA)—though they can accept donations from any source (more on that in a moment). Many foreign companies that make face masks lack those certifications, which limits the imported supply available to meet America's rising demand. Even suppliers who are certified to sell masks to Americans have to navigate a weeks-long bureaucratic process before orders can be fulfilled. Suppliers who aren't certified by those federal agencies can't legally bring their products into the United States. That means supplies of KN95 masks—a Chinese certification for face masks that 3M Corporation's personal safety division says are "reasonable to consider….as equivalent" to N95 masks—can't be legally imported by hospitals for health care workers to use."
     

    Let me guess: your dad was also Egyptian & watched Fox News?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    One has to wonder what's on Corvirus's bookshelf. Dissimulating for the Complete Klutz? The Berenstain Bears Survive the Holocaust?
  127. I was unable to forgive him, even in death

    Oh my, indeed! His hatred of his father’s alignment with conservatism & fear of the future: Sharia, surveillance, etc. hides his own deep-seated inadequacies as a man. To think that everything, absolutely everything is the fault of Western Civilization, by someone who should be grateful that he is so fortunate (college professor, and all; thank God I never came across this insipid asshole), and that his father made the sacrifice to move to the USA, is just disgusting. I think he is just envious that his father saw Marilyn and witnessed her astonishing presence!

    Furthermore, note to professor: many, many Christians moved to the USA because they were persecuted by Muslims. I guess he never heard of the Armenian Genocide since it was committed by Muslims. https://armeniagogo.com/armenian-genocide-photos/

    It is so psychotic to think that his father’s choices to marry Irish and Latvian wives, was somehow evil! It’s not like there were thousands of Egyptian women to meet and marry in the USA. Armenians did a great job in the 40’s-2020+ to have their young people meet at Armenian dances in the USA.

    This guy is just screaming: I have daddy issues!.” What a horrible son. He will be forever, suffering from the memory of his own cruelty towards his father. It’s too late for him to make amends.

  128. Anonymous[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    Right, as an older white Christian professor, he would be highly vulnerable to being #MeTooed in order to clear him out of his otherwise lifetime slot. How are we ever going to achieve diversity in the English Department if the white men with tenure stick around for another two or three decades? You literally have to wait for someone to die for a slot to open up. Maybe Wuhan Virus will speed up the process but up until now there were very few ways to get rid of these foul white men. It's easy enough to take the portraits of the dead ones down from the wall but the living breathing ones with tenure are a different matter.

    Maybe one of his former female students suddenly "remembers" that years during office hours he felt her up or something like that. This will trigger an investigation and in the meantime he is suspended from teaching or interacting with students. Maybe the investigation turns up other embarrassing stuff. It turns out that the university has records of all the websites that he visited from his office computer, even when he had his browser set on private. Now that this woman has come forward, several of his other former students remember certain inappropriate remarks that he made in 2009. He could tough it out or the university is offering him a severance package - if he goes away quietly, the investigation is terminated, he gets two years salary as severance and his full pension and can "resign".

    But as a brown Egyptian Muslim, he sits higher on the Diversity Totem Pole than a white woman and he has a certain amount of immunity in these ambiguous he said/she said situations. We should "Believe Women" when they accuse white guys but if the accused is a minority it's not so simple. We all remember the long history in America of brown men being falsely accused blah blah blah.

    Not to mention, "old white guy" pitching proposal for a book, for a lecture tour, etc. - gag me with a spoon. But, diverse brown Egyptian Arab Muslim intellectual - sign him up! Sexy!

    Now in the old days this exact process went on, but in the opposite direction. The Arab Eastern Christian Muzyad Yakhoob Kairouz becomes the white American Roman Catholic "Danny Thomas" because Muzyad knew which one was more advantageous for his career. In Toutonghi's case, his family has crossed the color line twice - once from brown(ish)* to white and now back again. I don't think they have to worry about a 3rd time because I don't see it ever becoming advantageous to be white in America ever again.

    Even if he hasn't thought this through on a conscious level, it's not necessary that he do so. Bin Laden said that when people are asked to choose between the strong horse and the weak horse they will always pick the strong horse and subconsciously Pauls knew which team is the better team for his career.

    *Not really. Even in the bad old days, Arab Christian immigrants (the only kind - Muslim immigrants were rare) were always considered "white".

    He could find another creative career. I hear board games are coming back; how about one where 4 malevolent blue djinn compete to swipe Orientalist trope marbles from the center: “Angry Angry Almost-Arabs”– the New Yorker would have to want in on (((that)))

  129. @PiltdownMan

    ... in 1952, American audiences didn’t have much of a problem with seeing the Lebanese-American Thomas in a movie playing the husband of Doris Day.
     
    On the other hand, I'm surprised that, in 1951, the movie censors and their Hays code didn't have a problem with the scene in which Doris Day and Danny Thomas suggestively sing the 1920s jazz-era standard "Makin' Whoopie"— as they get ready for bed.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvvlnQRBI_o

    Doris Day movies had a shocking amount of innuendo. I don’t know if it was her insistence, or whether her blond innocent look gave studios license to be more bold in their innuendo, since her look was girl-next-door and not the sex vamp look that a Rita Hayworth or Greta Garbo gave off. But either way, if you happen to catch a few of her movies on TCM—especially the ones with Rock Hudson —hoo boy its like the opening scenes of a well-made adult movie!

    Of course, if you pay attention, old classic movies had a lot of innuendo going on, but they were true double entendres, the kind that you wouldn’t catch if you were a kid or not paying attention, so it made it safe for all audiences. It was truly witty and artistic in many circumstances, not like the vulgar crassness of the sluts on screen today.

  130. • Replies: @black sea
    Here's an article he wrote -- an entirely uninteresting article -- about being married to another novelist. White female novelist, as it happens, and for whatever it's worth.

    https://www.readitforward.com/essay/article/pauls-toutonghi-on-being-married-to-another-novelist/
  131. @Paleo Liberal
    One cannot predict the future as easily as you seem to think.

    You think his family will never want to return to white again. This is not necessarily true.

    One can imagine a time in the future when the US is more of a Latin American nation, with whites and some Asians at the top, and the browner folks lower down. The family might want to go back to white. Perhaps one of his descendants finds it better in the dating market to be a white male.

    Toutonghi never actually left being white. He doesn’t live in the ‘hood. He doesn’t run a bodega or drive a taxi, his kids aren’t dealing drugs. He is just LARPing at being brown because of the career advantages. In any situation where it still pays to be “white” (and there still are a few) he can instantly end his little LARP and be a respectable white professional. He gets the best of both worlds.

    • Agree: fish
    • Thanks: Daniel Williams
    • Replies: @Bugg
    Lebanese Maronite Carlos Slim has no such problems. And no danger of the Times magazine doing a piece about how conflicted the guy in their corner office is about his family's beginnings. Because he's not conflicted at all.
  132. @Scott Novak
    Off-topic: The US has been shamed by world & domestic media for making noises about restricting mask exports. But they all went easy on other offending nations, with the exception of China. Here is a way to decide who is being comparably stingy: The ratio of Masks produced per day to confirmed coronavirus cases. With 116 Million/day or 42 Billion/year produced, China has about 6X US mask production (4.7 Billion/year in 2017) and China also has ~80,000 confirmed CV cases (yes I know they lie) vs 270,000 in the US. So China has a ~20X higher ratio of masks produced per day per Coronavirus case ratio. But Taiwan is far more prolific - with 12.6 Million Masks produced per day they about match US production and have only 313 cases, so they have an astonishing ~860X higher ratio, and this implicitly assumes the US goes through with restricting exports so they are overwhelmingly available domestically as Taiwan already does (minus a planned future one-time 10Million donation to the world and 100k/week to the US)). It is admittedly partially circular - more masks probably help keep the number of cases down which makes the ratio higher. Strength begets strength.

    With 25% of the world's confirmed cases, the US likely has far less than 25% of the worlds masks at its disposal - the MSM needs to address that. I thought that with NYC being the current US epicenter of Coronavirus the MSM would have self-preservation instinct ("Because we live here") and not pillory the Administration for wanting to restrict exports - but it appears their Trump-derangement Syndrome overrides even self-preservation.

    also OT: Shulkin, snake that he is, made a comment that VA Hospitals are woefully unprepared!?!

    Trump and the military must immediately

    lock down

    all VA hospitals:

    armed marines/army

    guarding every entrance/interrogating every delivery person/fake doctors & nurses/ANYONE who tries to enter these hospitals or deliver sketchy material to these hospitals.

    I sense a move to bring massive Covid 19 deaths to these patients in specifically, VA hospitals. The army needs to treat all people trying to gain entry to these hospitals as hostiles.

  133. @ScarletNumber
    We have now gotten to the point where Tony Shalhoub can make it as an actor without having to change his name, even playing at Italian in Wings.

    Jameel Farah came a little earlier, so he had to become Jamie Farr, even though his character on MASH was explicitly Lebanese.

    Najeeb Halaby headed the FAA under Kennedy, and later Pan Am, succeeding Juan Trippe. He grew up in Dallas, eligible through his mother for membership in the Sons of Confederate Veterans.

    Like Joe Toutonghi, one of his children “reverted” to Islam, but she got something in return, as Queen of Jordan. Now Queen Dowager, she may qualify for the United Daughters of the Confederacy if great-grandpa didn’t take the Oath of Allegiance before April 8, 155 years ago.

    https://prabook.com/web/najeeb.halaby/668334

    They also have a connection to Aleppo– “Halaby” means someone from that city.

  134. @Mr McKenna


    “I’m pretty sure that nobody ever thought he was white,” I said.
     
    Let me guess, the author was Literally Shaking at this point?

    Sorry, but this entire post is major Corvinus Bait.

    I couldn’t bother to read the guys drivel but usually, as you suggest, such articles have similar phrases and passages, things like:

    1. In the “complicated” area of my peoples/ mother/father’s ancestry (translation: we are considered white around the globe, but I want to make it sound like there are dark, one-drop secrets, that we all navigated in order to succeed.) As the writer, I want to illustrate it, yet keep it ambiguous enough that the reader can never reconcile my current circumstances (say, a RICH WHITE CUBAN), with what I am discussing, so they assume the worst, of history, of whites…of my made up story of my family.

    2. “I was literally shaking…” Usually a passage used after an oblique reference to an alleged racist (white person) of such a fittingly composite nature as to be questionable as to their actual existence. Feminists were the first to do this, back in the 80s…they were constantly running into old grannies asking them when they were going to get married and pump out a child, or men at work that mistook them for the secretary instead of the director of the surgery department, etc etc.

    Example: “I stood there at the gate, watching this white man, in a short sleeve white shirt, and tie, some weird mix of Rush Limbaugh and a Wendy’s manager, tell my mother that only White Aryans could check in two bags on this flight…as country music blared in the background of the airport loudspeakers, I was was literally shaking…”

    3. Passages about breathing deeply, drawing a breath: These passages usually hearken back to Maya Angelou type writing, which is supposed to capture a moment of a “person of color” collecting their strength and determination to overcome prejudice, racism, etc.

    Example: I took a deep breath, determined not to let this airline “gate manager” violate my black/brown/white female body or that of my mother’s dignity…my very not-white great great great grandmother told us (insert another cliche story)…

    It’s the same narrative in all these.

    • Thanks: snorlax, HammerJack
  135. @Harry Baldwin
    In its March 27 issue, the New Yorker ran a cover story titled "Trump’s Dangerous Messaging About a Possible Coronavirus Treatment," subtitled "The President has continued to recommend a combination of drugs that are unproven in fighting the novel coronavirus and are known to cause dangerous side effects."

    I sure hope that, should they fall ill, those New Yorker editors don't risk their lives using that dangerous coronavirus treatment now approved by the FDA.

    well, well…heard a whole bunch of doctors have been hoarding hydroxychloroquine (for their personal use/family/rich friends) in the Tri-State area. My friend is desperately trying to fill her script for her Lupus disease! You can bet New Yorkers who have means have connections to these corrupt doctors who began hoarding the meds in late February….based on my friend’s knowledge. This whole thing in NYC & CT stinks to high heaven.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    Are that many rich New Yorkers still in New York? The beach town closest to me is crawling with New Jersey and New York tags. According to some friends who live there, they overheard them bragging about taking back roads to get here at a Publix.
  136. I was unable to forgive my father for the way he’d turned against his heritage,

    If his father had transitioned from man to woman, would he have been happy with two mothers?

  137. Joseph Toutonghi has a passing resemblance to Hafez al-Assad, Bashar’s late father. They were both Syrian. At one point, Aleppo was part of Mitanni, a state with an Indo-European ruling elite, specifically Indo-Aryan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitanni

    “I was unable to forgive him, even in death, for the way he’d turned against his heritage, fallen under the thrall of right-wing demagogues on radio and television. I couldn’t forgive the horrible things he’d taken to saying about the Middle East, the hatred he’d directed at Muslims, in particular—posting on his anonymous Twitter account, tweeting and retweeting the sentiments of xenophobes and bigots.”

    Joseph Toutonghi, RIP. If you’d flown the coop, left your son in America while you went back to Africa, and acquired a harem, maybe your son would write a coming-of-age book about trying to find who you were.

  138. @nebulafox
    Near as I can tell, Americans of Middle Eastern extraction were just lumped in as white back in his father's day.

    I've heard that as recently as the early 1980s, some Americans with a Mexican background would get offended if they weren't viewed as white. Outside of places like NYC where there were already large non-European immigrant populations (Puerto Ricans) concentrated into a small geographic area with their own identity, "not white" was taken for granted as black, your token Razib Khans aside.

    Near as I can tell, Americans of Middle Eastern extraction were just lumped in as white back in his father’s day.

    Michael DeBakey grew up in the Jim Crow South, and people thought that he was White:

    Michael Ellis DeBakey (born Michel Dabaghi; September 7, 1908 – July 11, 2008) was a Lebanese-American cardiac surgeon and vascular surgeon, scientist and medical educator who became the chancellor emeritus of Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, Texas, director of the Methodist DeBakey Heart & Vascular Center, and senior attending surgeon at Methodist Hospital in Houston, with a career spanning 75 years.

    Born to Lebanese Christian immigrants, DeBakey was inspired to pursue a career in medicine by the physicians that he had met at his father’s drug store, and he simultaneously learned sewing skills from his mother. He subsequently attended Tulane University for his premedical course and Tulane University School of Medicine to study medicine. At Tulane, he developed a version of the roller pump, which he initially used to transfuse blood directly from person to person and which later became a component of the heart–lung machine. Following early surgical training at Charity Hospital, DeBakey was encouraged to complete his surgical fellowships in Europe, before returning to Tulane University in 1937. During the Second World War, he helped develop the Mobile Army Surgical Hospital (MASH) units and later helped establish the Veterans Administration Medical Center Research System.

    DeBakey’s surgical innovations included coronary bypass operations, carotid endarterectomy, artificial hearts and ventricular assist devices. He used polyethylene terephthalate (Dacron) grafts to replace or repair blood vessels and pioneered surgical repairs of aortic aneurysms, an operation he himself underwent at the age of 97. DeBakey received a number of awards, including the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the National Medal of Science, and the Congressional Gold Medal. In addition, a number of institutions bear his name.

    Michael DeBakey was born as Michel Dabaghi[1] in Lake Charles, Louisiana on September 7, 1908, to Shaker Morris and Raheeja Dabaghi. The name was later anglicized to DeBakey.[2][3] His parents were Lebanese Christian immigrants, spoke French and fled oppression from the Ottomans to settle in Cajun Country where French was spoken.[4]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_DeBakey

    • Replies: @Jack D
    In the musical "Oklahoma", which takes place in the Jim Crow South, there is a character of a "Persian" peddler named Ali Hakim (played in the original Broadway production by Groucho Marx, BTW). (Persian is just ignorant confusion - the real Arab peddlers of the South were Christians from what is today Syria or Lebanon. ) The white female characters in the play fall in love with, and one later marries, Ali so clearly he would have been "white". The Arab emigration in those days was mostly young men and 80% married white American women. Legally they were classified as "white" or they wouldn't have been allowed to immigrate in the 1st place.

    If Pauls's family had been from Egypt, he would have had some sort of case for calling himself non-white. Egyptians have a lot of African admixture. But Syrians and Lebanese are as white as any Mediterranean people. Pauls is a particularly outrageous case of a white Christian guy reclassifying himself out of whiteness. He is 2nd only to Rachel Dolezal. Maybe 3rd after Liz Warren.

    , @PiltdownMan

    Michael DeBakey grew up in the Jim Crow South, and people thought that he was White:
     
    I remember reading about Dr. DeBakey in Life magazine when I was a kid. He had a huge rivalry with Dr. Denton Cooley, his former colleague and a heart surgeon in another major hospital in Houston. They were celebrity heart surgeons in the late 1960s, when the then relatively new surgical specialty of open heart surgery, made possible by the heart-lung machine, was viewed with awe by the general public (as it should be, today.)

    Cooley was a Texan, but both doctors were written up in the press as Texans with big egos, iirc. There was speculation about which one of the two would be the first to do a heart transplant, but Dr. Christiaan Barnard of Cape Town, South Africa pipped them to the post in 1967.

    DeBakey lived to the age of 99, after having undergone heart surgery at 97. Cooley lived to be 96.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/27/health/27docs.html

    https://i.imgur.com/tGwiLyx.jpg

  139. His father committed the unforgivable sin, he was GRATEFUL to America.

    His son is young and hip and ungrateful, all the IN things.

  140. “Just weeks before my father died, I’d had a nasty argument with him, on the phone, about racial categories in America. I had called him when I’d heard that the 2020 census would likely include a Middle Eastern/North African designation. It was something that Arab-American activists had been advocating for more than two decades. I don’t know what I was thinking, calling Dad to tell him this. It was an obvious mistake, something I sensed as soon as I broached the subject.
    ‘You know what this is,’ he told me. ‘It’s the beginning of Sharia law. It’s so they can take over this country. It’s the first step.’

    I was driving and talking on a headset. I could imagine where he was—the only place he went these days—sitting in one corner of his reclining leather couch, wearing an ice pack on his swollen feet, watching Fox News. Diagnosed with congestive heart failure earlier that year, he was struggling even to stand up and walk to the kitchen. As he talked, I could hear the mossy purr of his oxygen machine.

    ‘Never mind,’ I said. ‘I shouldn’t have called.’”

    This doesn’t sound like “an obvious mistake.” It sounds like he knew perfectly well how his sick father, who loved him, would respond, and he goaded him anyway. I’ve seen liberal relatives do this to conservative fathers. It’s Meathead harassing Archie. It might even have been their ingrained habit, right down to the son concluding that he’d made a “mistake” again, for the umpteenth time.

    • Replies: @sayless
    "I don't know what I was thinking, calling Dad to tell him this. It was an obvious mistake..."


    He knew exactly what he wanted, calling Dad to tell him this, even if he didn't know what he was thinking.

    If he'd reflected a bit he would have known very well what he was thinking.

  141. I wonder, has Toutonghi fils written a 5,000-word essay on how the character of Ali Hakim in “Oklahoma!” is cultural appropriation?

  142. @Tykebomb
    This poor son of a bitch. Christians in the middle east have it rough. Once the majority in the birth place of their religion, they are now a minority suffering under spasms of extremism from the Muslims and Jews. Then this poor schlub had to watch his POS son convert to to the invader's religion. "Its the beginning of Sharia law" was a historical fact his ancestors passed down to him in the old country.

    Sad.

    What are Christians in the Middle East suffering from Jews? Nothing!

    But go on bleating, you Jew hating standard Unzite.

    • Disagree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @ATBOTL

    What are Christians in the Middle East suffering from Jews? Nothing!
     
    Palestinian Christians were murdered and ethnically cleansed by Jews. They are currently being held in horrific conditions in the West Bank and are subject to constant violence and harassment by racist Jewish settlers and soldiers.

    Christians in Iraq and Syria have been devastated by wars that were largely created by Jews in an attempt to weaken countries that are not subservient to Israel. The Jewish Lobby here in the US has been the most aggressive and influential force demanding these wars. The global Jewish Lobby strongly supported the Sunni Muslim terrorists in Syria who murdered and ethnically cleansed Christians.

    Without the strong support of the the global Jewish Lobby, the Iraq and Syrian wars probably would not have happened.
    , @Truth3
    Hey Asshole, tell that to the Million+ Palestinian Christians.
  143. @nebulafox
    Near as I can tell, Americans of Middle Eastern extraction were just lumped in as white back in his father's day.

    I've heard that as recently as the early 1980s, some Americans with a Mexican background would get offended if they weren't viewed as white. Outside of places like NYC where there were already large non-European immigrant populations (Puerto Ricans) concentrated into a small geographic area with their own identity, "not white" was taken for granted as black, your token Razib Khans aside.

    Near as I can tell, Americans of Middle Eastern extraction were just lumped in as white back in his father’s day.

    The roster of the Ole Miss football team back in the 1950’s says you’re right.

  144. @Dumbo

    The truth was this: I was angry at my father. I was unable to forgive him, even in death, for the way he’d turned against his heritage,

     


    I was the one who’d discovered an unexpected allegiance to Arabic culture during a year living in Morocco. I was the one who’d recited the shehadah before an adul, and formally converted to Islam
     
    It seems to be common for the sons of assimilated migrants, and in particular Muslims, to rage against their parents and go back to a identity more related to their old country. In Europe most jihadist are second or third generation Muslims born and grown up in Europe.

    Why is that? Daddy issues? Did not obtain social success and feel marginalized? Or unable to fully identify with the new country, they seek a sense of belonging somewhere else? But then why did their parents, who had it much harder, don't feel like that?

    >Why is that? Daddy issues? Did not obtain social success and feel marginalized? Or unable to fully identify with the new country, they seek a sense of belonging somewhere else? But then why did their parents, who had it much harder, don’t feel like that?

    This is spot on IMO. Failure in life and coping with that failure by turning to religion is common. The father’s Christian upbringing made him a functioning member of Western civilization. Finally becoming a high-school teacher suggests that the father understood his limitations and was satisfied to lend a modest hand to our common enterprise. The son – I am guessing – had a loftier ambition than teachinb high-school but having inherited the middling talents of his father he was unable to become the man he had hoped to be. The father was able to understand the world in a larger compass by having immigrated from Lebanon to the US. The son did not have the moral advantage of having faced and overcome the rigors of immigrated.

  145. @Achmed E. Newman
    Hey, Steve, still up? WTF?

    If you still are, I'm bringing this guy up since you like celebrities: Kasey Kasem, of American Top 40 fame, was born in Detroit, but of Lebanese Druze background. Per Wiki just now, his parents insisted on him not speaking any Arabic. They were trying to turn out an assimilated anti-Toutonghi, and back then, it was a lot easier to be successful at that.

    You've gotta remember too, but if you didn't follow People magazine or what-have-you, you would have no idea what a lot of people on the radio looked like. I had no idea till decades later that this guy wasn't simply Casey Kasem, as American as me. Well, he was, I guess.

    Speaking of this radio thing, we had a 1 dollar bet about a local guy who would give some short farm report daily on whether he was black or white. He had this old-man croaky kind of voice, so I could imagine him either way. We called up the DJ at the station. I forget now who won the buck, or whether he was white or black!

    You’ve gotta remember too, but if you didn’t follow People magazine or what-have-you, you would have no idea what a lot of people on the radio looked like.

    Surely you had seen him on TV:

    • LOL: MEH 0910
  146. Here’s his father’s obituary photograph.

    Along with this:

    Because the church is decorated for Christmas, in lieu of flowers, we invite you to donate to the education and training of young Jesuits via: Jesuit Formation Fund, PO Box 68, Los Gatos, CA 95031-0519. Or, online at https://www.jesuitscalifornia.org/donation-form. Under Comments, designate the gift for Jesuit Formation, in memory of Joseph Toutonghi.

    Was this Joseph’s decision? I can imagine Pauls gritting his teeth.

    Joseph attended Seattle U. When you combine “university” with a city name in this country, about half the time it’s a Jesuit institution, or at least Catholic. (Dayton, Dallas, and San Diego are examples of the latter.)

    Naming a university for its city is more of a European thing– Americans prefer states.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    Joseph attended Seattle U. When you combine “university” with a city name in this country, about half the time it’s a Jesuit institution, or at least Catholic. (Dayton, Dallas, and San Diego are examples of the latter.)

    Naming a university for its city is more of a European thing– Americans prefer states.
     
    There are notable exceptions, of course:

    Boston University

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_University

    New York University

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_University

    Princeton University

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princeton_University
    , @anon
    University of Detroit vs Wayne State University kinda goes with your point (not sure if WSU was named after the county of Wayne or both are named for Gen. "Mad Anthony" Wayne), but contra your point, people even in Detroit were always surprised to learn UofD wasn't a "public" college.
  147. @Anon
    Biologically, Egyptians are white under 3- and 5-race clustering, and only get lumped with Middle Eastern/African in 7-race clustering, where also Indians and some Central Asians get lumped into a race.

    I wonder, when did Egyptians start speaking Egyptian…

    When he spoke English, his Egyptian accent…

    As a youth, my family hosted a foreign exchange student from Egypt, he spoke Arabic–though I wouldn’t have said his English was spoken with much of an accent.

    Presumably Toutonghi Sr spoke Arabic with an Egyptian accent, or dialect. I doubt his English accent would be discernible as Egyptian, rather than an Arabic accent.

    Seems a detail, or description, approaching fiction.

  148. @Redneck farmer
    ....a professor at Lewis and Clark College.
    I bet his students learn a lot!

    I bet his students learn a lot!

    And some of it might even be true.

  149. His father sounds like a great guy. Him, with his facile and moronic identification of Arabic with Muslim culture – always a sign of failing to recognise that Islam is the most successful coloniser of the last 1500 years – sounds like an absolutely boring moron.
    His sisters and the rest of his family, no doubt already disgusted by his conversion to Islam, should have nothing more to do with him now their charming old Dad has passed on.

  150. @Jack D
    Right, as an older white Christian professor, he would be highly vulnerable to being #MeTooed in order to clear him out of his otherwise lifetime slot. How are we ever going to achieve diversity in the English Department if the white men with tenure stick around for another two or three decades? You literally have to wait for someone to die for a slot to open up. Maybe Wuhan Virus will speed up the process but up until now there were very few ways to get rid of these foul white men. It's easy enough to take the portraits of the dead ones down from the wall but the living breathing ones with tenure are a different matter.

    Maybe one of his former female students suddenly "remembers" that years during office hours he felt her up or something like that. This will trigger an investigation and in the meantime he is suspended from teaching or interacting with students. Maybe the investigation turns up other embarrassing stuff. It turns out that the university has records of all the websites that he visited from his office computer, even when he had his browser set on private. Now that this woman has come forward, several of his other former students remember certain inappropriate remarks that he made in 2009. He could tough it out or the university is offering him a severance package - if he goes away quietly, the investigation is terminated, he gets two years salary as severance and his full pension and can "resign".

    But as a brown Egyptian Muslim, he sits higher on the Diversity Totem Pole than a white woman and he has a certain amount of immunity in these ambiguous he said/she said situations. We should "Believe Women" when they accuse white guys but if the accused is a minority it's not so simple. We all remember the long history in America of brown men being falsely accused blah blah blah.

    Not to mention, "old white guy" pitching proposal for a book, for a lecture tour, etc. - gag me with a spoon. But, diverse brown Egyptian Arab Muslim intellectual - sign him up! Sexy!

    Now in the old days this exact process went on, but in the opposite direction. The Arab Eastern Christian Muzyad Yakhoob Kairouz becomes the white American Roman Catholic "Danny Thomas" because Muzyad knew which one was more advantageous for his career. In Toutonghi's case, his family has crossed the color line twice - once from brown(ish)* to white and now back again. I don't think they have to worry about a 3rd time because I don't see it ever becoming advantageous to be white in America ever again.

    Even if he hasn't thought this through on a conscious level, it's not necessary that he do so. Bin Laden said that when people are asked to choose between the strong horse and the weak horse they will always pick the strong horse and subconsciously Pauls knew which team is the better team for his career.

    *Not really. Even in the bad old days, Arab Christian immigrants (the only kind - Muslim immigrants were rare) were always considered "white".

    I wonder how he shows up in the Lewis and Clark affirmative action statistics. And whether or not that has changed over time.

  151. @Steve Sailer
    "Because we live here" is surprisingly often the beginning of wisdom.

    “‘Because we live here’ is surprisingly often the beginning of wisdom.”

    And it’s surprising how often the ignorant or even the unintelligent can acquire wisdom; the irrational, never.

    • Replies: @UK
    Everyone currently lives in little bubbles, attached to the world through relations that only exist on the internet. When talking to your neighbour is basically banned, there's very little meaningful about "here". Except how much money will the government of "here" send you for reminding at home in your bubble and doing nothing.
  152. @Reg Cæsar

    Here’s his father’s obituary photograph.
     
    Along with this:

    Because the church is decorated for Christmas, in lieu of flowers, we invite you to donate to the education and training of young Jesuits via: Jesuit Formation Fund, PO Box 68, Los Gatos, CA 95031-0519. Or, online at https://www.jesuitscalifornia.org/donation-form. Under Comments, designate the gift for Jesuit Formation, in memory of Joseph Toutonghi.
     
    Was this Joseph's decision? I can imagine Pauls gritting his teeth.

    Joseph attended Seattle U. When you combine "university" with a city name in this country, about half the time it's a Jesuit institution, or at least Catholic. (Dayton, Dallas, and San Diego are examples of the latter.)

    Naming a university for its city is more of a European thing-- Americans prefer states.

    Joseph attended Seattle U. When you combine “university” with a city name in this country, about half the time it’s a Jesuit institution, or at least Catholic. (Dayton, Dallas, and San Diego are examples of the latter.)

    Naming a university for its city is more of a European thing– Americans prefer states.

    There are notable exceptions, of course:

    Boston University

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_University

    New York University

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_University

    Princeton University

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princeton_University

    • Replies: @res
    Thanks. Princeton makes an interesting example for this conversation given:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princeton_University

    Founded in 1746 in Elizabeth as the College of New Jersey, Princeton is the fourth-oldest institution of higher education in the United States and one of the nine colonial colleges chartered before the American Revolution.[8][a] The institution moved to Newark in 1747, then to the current site nine years later, and renamed itself Princeton University in 1896.[13]
     
    Boston University is also an interesting example given that Boston College is Jesuit.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    There are notable exceptions, of course:

     

    Those are all private institutions, Protestant in origin. So is Denver. U of Miami is private. (Miami U is not, but is not named after its city.)

    I can't think of too many public institutions named [city] Universityor U. of [city]-- Toledo, Cincinnati... Pitt has only been public since 1966.
  153. @Chrisnonymous
    So, he was a Christian? So he was a Middle-Easterner who nursed hatreds of other Middle-Easterners of different religions. Sounds very Middle-Eastern. In what way had he "turned against his heritage"?

    As per his son, despite his family’s 2+ centuries Catholicism and having been persecuted by Islam in 2 countries, his dad should have embraced the very culture which tormented them. How dare he become American. What a pathetic victim; what a loser.

  154. And not a single word about the persecution (i.e. mass murder) of Coptic Christians by Egyptian muslims. All we hear is that his father hated Muslims. I wonder why. at any rate, F this guy. F him. And F the NY’er, btw. Go look at the masthead; it’s the typical shitshow of what you’d expects. When I used to think of the NY’er, I would think of E.B. White, Peter Devries and James Thurber. Now I think of Teen Vogue.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  155. @Jack D
    Right, as an older white Christian professor, he would be highly vulnerable to being #MeTooed in order to clear him out of his otherwise lifetime slot. How are we ever going to achieve diversity in the English Department if the white men with tenure stick around for another two or three decades? You literally have to wait for someone to die for a slot to open up. Maybe Wuhan Virus will speed up the process but up until now there were very few ways to get rid of these foul white men. It's easy enough to take the portraits of the dead ones down from the wall but the living breathing ones with tenure are a different matter.

    Maybe one of his former female students suddenly "remembers" that years during office hours he felt her up or something like that. This will trigger an investigation and in the meantime he is suspended from teaching or interacting with students. Maybe the investigation turns up other embarrassing stuff. It turns out that the university has records of all the websites that he visited from his office computer, even when he had his browser set on private. Now that this woman has come forward, several of his other former students remember certain inappropriate remarks that he made in 2009. He could tough it out or the university is offering him a severance package - if he goes away quietly, the investigation is terminated, he gets two years salary as severance and his full pension and can "resign".

    But as a brown Egyptian Muslim, he sits higher on the Diversity Totem Pole than a white woman and he has a certain amount of immunity in these ambiguous he said/she said situations. We should "Believe Women" when they accuse white guys but if the accused is a minority it's not so simple. We all remember the long history in America of brown men being falsely accused blah blah blah.

    Not to mention, "old white guy" pitching proposal for a book, for a lecture tour, etc. - gag me with a spoon. But, diverse brown Egyptian Arab Muslim intellectual - sign him up! Sexy!

    Now in the old days this exact process went on, but in the opposite direction. The Arab Eastern Christian Muzyad Yakhoob Kairouz becomes the white American Roman Catholic "Danny Thomas" because Muzyad knew which one was more advantageous for his career. In Toutonghi's case, his family has crossed the color line twice - once from brown(ish)* to white and now back again. I don't think they have to worry about a 3rd time because I don't see it ever becoming advantageous to be white in America ever again.

    Even if he hasn't thought this through on a conscious level, it's not necessary that he do so. Bin Laden said that when people are asked to choose between the strong horse and the weak horse they will always pick the strong horse and subconsciously Pauls knew which team is the better team for his career.

    *Not really. Even in the bad old days, Arab Christian immigrants (the only kind - Muslim immigrants were rare) were always considered "white".

    Danny Thomas was from a Maronite Catholic family.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    The Maronites and other Uniates are Eastern in their rites, but they acknowledge the universal jurisdiction of the Pope, the Bishop of Rome. Thus "Eastern Christian," while not a complete description of them, is not an inaccurate one. At one time at least, maybe not anymore, it was required to ask and receive permission to transfer from one Rite to another. I suspect that Roman Catholic priests might not be such sticklers for this requirement, for Easterners wanting to come over to the Latin rite, than would be Eastern Rite priests for lay persons wishing to travel in the opposite direction (which some traditionalists have done.)
  156. @Jack D
    Toutonghi never actually left being white. He doesn't live in the 'hood. He doesn't run a bodega or drive a taxi, his kids aren't dealing drugs. He is just LARPing at being brown because of the career advantages. In any situation where it still pays to be "white" (and there still are a few) he can instantly end his little LARP and be a respectable white professional. He gets the best of both worlds.

    Lebanese Maronite Carlos Slim has no such problems. And no danger of the Times magazine doing a piece about how conflicted the guy in their corner office is about his family’s beginnings. Because he’s not conflicted at all.

  157. It’s like that old rightwing talking point: if America is so evil, why do you want to let those poor immigrants come here?

    In this case, the immigrant is an OK guy, but his raised in America son is a POS.

  158. anonymous[541] • Disclaimer says:
    @ben tillman

    Even in death, I was unable to forgive my father for the way he’d turned against his heritage, fallen under the thrall of right-wing demagogues on radio and television.
     
    Well, no kidding! You can't do much of anything when you're dead.

    And this is from The New Yorker! Where are the editors?

    Researching in the morgue, of course.

  159. @syonredux

    Near as I can tell, Americans of Middle Eastern extraction were just lumped in as white back in his father’s day.
     
    Michael DeBakey grew up in the Jim Crow South, and people thought that he was White:

    Michael Ellis DeBakey (born Michel Dabaghi; September 7, 1908 – July 11, 2008) was a Lebanese-American cardiac surgeon and vascular surgeon, scientist and medical educator who became the chancellor emeritus of Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, Texas, director of the Methodist DeBakey Heart & Vascular Center, and senior attending surgeon at Methodist Hospital in Houston, with a career spanning 75 years.
     

    Born to Lebanese Christian immigrants, DeBakey was inspired to pursue a career in medicine by the physicians that he had met at his father's drug store, and he simultaneously learned sewing skills from his mother. He subsequently attended Tulane University for his premedical course and Tulane University School of Medicine to study medicine. At Tulane, he developed a version of the roller pump, which he initially used to transfuse blood directly from person to person and which later became a component of the heart–lung machine. Following early surgical training at Charity Hospital, DeBakey was encouraged to complete his surgical fellowships in Europe, before returning to Tulane University in 1937. During the Second World War, he helped develop the Mobile Army Surgical Hospital (MASH) units and later helped establish the Veterans Administration Medical Center Research System.
     

    DeBakey's surgical innovations included coronary bypass operations, carotid endarterectomy, artificial hearts and ventricular assist devices. He used polyethylene terephthalate (Dacron) grafts to replace or repair blood vessels and pioneered surgical repairs of aortic aneurysms, an operation he himself underwent at the age of 97. DeBakey received a number of awards, including the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the National Medal of Science, and the Congressional Gold Medal. In addition, a number of institutions bear his name.
     

    Michael DeBakey was born as Michel Dabaghi[1] in Lake Charles, Louisiana on September 7, 1908, to Shaker Morris and Raheeja Dabaghi. The name was later anglicized to DeBakey.[2][3] His parents were Lebanese Christian immigrants, spoke French and fled oppression from the Ottomans to settle in Cajun Country where French was spoken.[4]

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_DeBakey



    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-g4V8A2PxgSE/UPcN04XfAEI/AAAAAAAAAXY/1GO38CU95Os/s1600/DeBakey_00003126.jpg

    In the musical “Oklahoma”, which takes place in the Jim Crow South, there is a character of a “Persian” peddler named Ali Hakim (played in the original Broadway production by Groucho Marx, BTW). (Persian is just ignorant confusion – the real Arab peddlers of the South were Christians from what is today Syria or Lebanon. ) The white female characters in the play fall in love with, and one later marries, Ali so clearly he would have been “white”. The Arab emigration in those days was mostly young men and 80% married white American women. Legally they were classified as “white” or they wouldn’t have been allowed to immigrate in the 1st place.

    If Pauls’s family had been from Egypt, he would have had some sort of case for calling himself non-white. Egyptians have a lot of African admixture. But Syrians and Lebanese are as white as any Mediterranean people. Pauls is a particularly outrageous case of a white Christian guy reclassifying himself out of whiteness. He is 2nd only to Rachel Dolezal. Maybe 3rd after Liz Warren.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Technically, OK is not a Southern state. It's Southwestern. The film doesn't really emphasize the Jim Crow aspects. The farm, agrarian way of life is.
    , @Anonymous
    Both DeBakey and Thomas were not White Southerners, though their most important contributions happened in Southern settings - Houston and Memphis respectively. Each man was way ahead of his time in terms of race. Neither man permitted Jim Crow racial mores to dictate how the valuable medical services they provided were dispensed:

    Danny Thomas: https://www.stjude.org/about-st-jude/stories/making-a-difference/pioneer-for-integration.html

    Debakey: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/outlook/article/Dr-Michael-DeBakey-was-more-than-a-legendary-14853617.php

    Jack D is a fraud. Ive been hounding him all weekend.

  160. anon[309] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Here’s his father’s obituary photograph.
     
    Along with this:

    Because the church is decorated for Christmas, in lieu of flowers, we invite you to donate to the education and training of young Jesuits via: Jesuit Formation Fund, PO Box 68, Los Gatos, CA 95031-0519. Or, online at https://www.jesuitscalifornia.org/donation-form. Under Comments, designate the gift for Jesuit Formation, in memory of Joseph Toutonghi.
     
    Was this Joseph's decision? I can imagine Pauls gritting his teeth.

    Joseph attended Seattle U. When you combine "university" with a city name in this country, about half the time it's a Jesuit institution, or at least Catholic. (Dayton, Dallas, and San Diego are examples of the latter.)

    Naming a university for its city is more of a European thing-- Americans prefer states.

    University of Detroit vs Wayne State University kinda goes with your point (not sure if WSU was named after the county of Wayne or both are named for Gen. “Mad Anthony” Wayne), but contra your point, people even in Detroit were always surprised to learn UofD wasn’t a “public” college.

  161. UK says:
    @Kylie
    "'Because we live here' is surprisingly often the beginning of wisdom."

    And it's surprising how often the ignorant or even the unintelligent can acquire wisdom; the irrational, never.

    Everyone currently lives in little bubbles, attached to the world through relations that only exist on the internet. When talking to your neighbour is basically banned, there’s very little meaningful about “here”. Except how much money will the government of “here” send you for reminding at home in your bubble and doing nothing.

  162. Well he’s just following his family tradition, the same way that is forefathers living in a muslim country adopted Western culture when it was seen as prestigious, now that American Whites are becoming a low status group the guy runs away from association with the Whites, his old man was just too set on his ways to understand the new pecking order where Whites are the lowest group. But i’m sure that in his second therm Mr. Trump will restore the Whites to their proper place of preeminence and that will be the end of the flight from white!!!

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    More likely Pres. Hillary will put every White man in a reeducation camp.

    White people are doomed. We will all be poor and homeless with 45% at least unemployment and put in camps. We have neither money to flee or power to fight.

    This guy at least he knows the strong horse.
  163. res says:
    @syonredux

    Joseph attended Seattle U. When you combine “university” with a city name in this country, about half the time it’s a Jesuit institution, or at least Catholic. (Dayton, Dallas, and San Diego are examples of the latter.)

    Naming a university for its city is more of a European thing– Americans prefer states.
     
    There are notable exceptions, of course:

    Boston University

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_University

    New York University

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_University

    Princeton University

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princeton_University

    Thanks. Princeton makes an interesting example for this conversation given:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princeton_University

    Founded in 1746 in Elizabeth as the College of New Jersey, Princeton is the fourth-oldest institution of higher education in the United States and one of the nine colonial colleges chartered before the American Revolution.[8][a] The institution moved to Newark in 1747, then to the current site nine years later, and renamed itself Princeton University in 1896.[13]

    Boston University is also an interesting example given that Boston College is Jesuit.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Boston University is also an interesting example given that Boston College is Jesuit.
     
    Boston College, the university in Chestnut Hill.
    , @syonredux

    Thanks. Princeton makes an interesting example for this conversation given:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princeton_University

    Founded in 1746 in Elizabeth as the College of New Jersey, Princeton is the fourth-oldest institution of higher education in the United States and one of the nine colonial colleges chartered before the American Revolution.[8][a] The institution moved to Newark in 1747, then to the current site nine years later, and renamed itself Princeton University in 1896.[13]
     
    The College of New Jersey was informally called Princeton for quite some time before they officially changed the name.Plus, I suspect that some people disliked the vaguely non-elite connotations of a name like "The College of New Jersey" (Sounds too much like a Land-Grant uni).

    As a side note, Yale was frequently called New Haven back in the late 19th-early 20th century (E.g., in The Great Gatsby,Nick Carraway refers to having graduated from "New Haven" in 1915).
  164. Rob says:

    I prett much agree with the father and the son here. I see Christian Middle Easterners as white, and the Muslims as non-white aliens. I mean, there are American whites with lots of different Protestant or Protestantized churches. That includes the Jack D sort of Protestant Jews, but not the Baruch Feldheim sort, make an effort to exploit and stay in high tension with society. (Is Feldheim Hasidic?) Christians from the Middle East seem to intermarry with Americans, Anglicize their names, and merge with America’s core population.

    The Muslim ones do none of the above. They’re so alien that they sometimes murder lots of people in gay nightclubs or go boom somewhere. Their kids are so un-American that some went to join ISIS and enslave Christians and Yazidis in land where Muslims are strong; as opposed to here, where Muslims are (currently?) weak. If a few did that as teenagers, lots more fantasized about it. They name all their sons Mohammed, live in Muslim communities, largely isolate their daughters, and make almost no effort to fit in.

    If there is hope for assimilating the Muslims, it lies in the women, who get a particularly raw deal, and must hear the siren song of the West. It’s interesting that Pauls’ sister quickly said her father was white. Does she see herself as a white American?

    Given all that, I’m perfectly willing to accept the deceased father as a white American, and the son as a non-white alien who needs to go back. What’s the opposite of assimilating? Dissimilating? We need to have a term for it besides ‘flight from white.’ Something that emphasizes that they’re less American for doing it.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    What’s the opposite of assimilating? Dissimilating? We need to have a term for it besides ‘flight from white.’
     
    This is Derb's suggestion:

    https://www.isegoria.net/2016/06/absimilation/
  165. Steve, sorry to go off topic but the headline in today’s Buffalo News: “Cuomo orders National Guard to take gear from Upstate hospitals for hot spots.” So, because the Buffalo News is sickeningly liberal, let me translate for you. Upstate= here, where I live with my wife and some of my family. Gear = hospital supplies and equipment, including VENTILATORS, GLOVES, MASKS AND GOWNS (all in the story text.) In any other case “take” would be “seize”, as in seize their assets. National Guard= huge over step. Fifty years ago, this May, the Ohio National Guard shot and killed protestors at Kent State. Do you not think, that some doctor or nurse, at Roswell Park Cancer Hospital or Oshei Women and Children’s Hospital might resist, with force, the attempt to take their “gear?” Is there not the possibility that a weapon could be drawn? Ok, no weapons, but how about tasing or macing an Oncologist or a Pediatric Cardiologist. Cuomo would not do this in any other part of the state. Upstate is more conservative. Hell, he wouldn’t try this at a Jewish hospital, if we had one. Buffalo is minority majority. Where T F is Liz Warren? Corey Booker? Kamala Harris ? Pray for us my friends.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    Fortunately, B-Joe, the hospital in my conservative NY county still relies on leeches, potions and trephining -- not much for Il Duce to commandeer.
    , @Joe Stalin
    Gee, NY land of Cosmopolitan Gun Control. Magazine capacity bans. Everything licensed. Derbs' handgun ordered turned in. People's Militia made irrelevant through Gun Registration.

    Now, medical gear necessary for life seized for the Cosmopolitans.

    Where have seen something similar before?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aF_sRXVdoU
  166. @RW
    OT, maybe you already posted this and I missed it, but here is a super-spreader at an Austrian ski resort. A bartender. Which explains high rates of the China Virus among well-heeled ski bunnies: https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/2020/03/22/austrias-white-winters-dream-ski-paradise-now-more-of-a-nightmare.html

    RW, there was a “super spreader”, to use your term, of AIDS. He was a male flight attendant for Air France IIRC. Fly into and out of cities all over the globe.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    RW, there was a “super spreader”, to use your term, of AIDS. He was a male flight attendant for Air France IIRC. Fly into and out of cities all over the globe.
     
    Air Canada.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaëtan_Dugas
    , @anonymous
    He was flying in and out of other things, too, that's how he got to be a super-spreader.
  167. @Buffalo Joe
    Steve, sorry to go off topic but the headline in today's Buffalo News: "Cuomo orders National Guard to take gear from Upstate hospitals for hot spots." So, because the Buffalo News is sickeningly liberal, let me translate for you. Upstate= here, where I live with my wife and some of my family. Gear = hospital supplies and equipment, including VENTILATORS, GLOVES, MASKS AND GOWNS (all in the story text.) In any other case "take" would be "seize", as in seize their assets. National Guard= huge over step. Fifty years ago, this May, the Ohio National Guard shot and killed protestors at Kent State. Do you not think, that some doctor or nurse, at Roswell Park Cancer Hospital or Oshei Women and Children's Hospital might resist, with force, the attempt to take their "gear?" Is there not the possibility that a weapon could be drawn? Ok, no weapons, but how about tasing or macing an Oncologist or a Pediatric Cardiologist. Cuomo would not do this in any other part of the state. Upstate is more conservative. Hell, he wouldn't try this at a Jewish hospital, if we had one. Buffalo is minority majority. Where T F is Liz Warren? Corey Booker? Kamala Harris ? Pray for us my friends.

    Fortunately, B-Joe, the hospital in my conservative NY county still relies on leeches, potions and trephining — not much for Il Duce to commandeer.

    • LOL: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Known Fact, guard your leeches, oh wait, downstate has plenty of leeches.
    , @Lockean Proviso
    If you can convince the big city liberals to indulge their worst stereotypes about you provincial hicks and your rejection of science and modern medicine due to clinging to your guns, leeches, and religion, maybe you can keep your ventilators.
  168. @Hebrew National
    This guy is a bore. As Egyptian-Americans looking to reconnect with their roots go, I much prefer Rami Youssef.

    https://youtu.be/I9R6vtcD09I

    Maybe Rami is more normal because he's Egyptian on both sides. Less angst and confusion about who he is.

    BTW I've changed my handle. My old handle was "International Jew". I hope that's ok...

    BTW I’ve changed my handle.

    Before you were someone Henry Ford was concerned about, now you’re a hot dog?
    Isn’t that rather a demotion?

    • Replies: @Hebrew National
    My moment in the sun came when unz.com featured that book. (Soon to be replaced by Mein Kampf IIRC.)

    Hebrew National seems, I dunno, just more virile.
  169. @Buffalo Joe
    Steve, sorry to go off topic but the headline in today's Buffalo News: "Cuomo orders National Guard to take gear from Upstate hospitals for hot spots." So, because the Buffalo News is sickeningly liberal, let me translate for you. Upstate= here, where I live with my wife and some of my family. Gear = hospital supplies and equipment, including VENTILATORS, GLOVES, MASKS AND GOWNS (all in the story text.) In any other case "take" would be "seize", as in seize their assets. National Guard= huge over step. Fifty years ago, this May, the Ohio National Guard shot and killed protestors at Kent State. Do you not think, that some doctor or nurse, at Roswell Park Cancer Hospital or Oshei Women and Children's Hospital might resist, with force, the attempt to take their "gear?" Is there not the possibility that a weapon could be drawn? Ok, no weapons, but how about tasing or macing an Oncologist or a Pediatric Cardiologist. Cuomo would not do this in any other part of the state. Upstate is more conservative. Hell, he wouldn't try this at a Jewish hospital, if we had one. Buffalo is minority majority. Where T F is Liz Warren? Corey Booker? Kamala Harris ? Pray for us my friends.

    Gee, NY land of Cosmopolitan Gun Control. Magazine capacity bans. Everything licensed. Derbs’ handgun ordered turned in. People’s Militia made irrelevant through Gun Registration.

    Now, medical gear necessary for life seized for the Cosmopolitans.

    Where have seen something similar before?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Did Derb ever get his gun back? His was an especially stupid case -- Constitutional right violated because some jerk involved his son in a bar fight, then cried about it to the cops, with the son happening to be under the same roof at the time, so the seizure was about separating the gun from the temporarily visiting son and not the gun's owner. I am mystified that the Republican Quisling move on red flag laws was to mumble vaguely that protections would be put in place and that the seizure would be temporary. It is hard to imagine anyone, even them, believing that for a second. Of course, if Derb got his gun back, that would be at least one example.
  170. @Daniel H
    Gay, possibly tranny.

    https://images1.penguinrandomhouse.com/author/68977

    Here’s an article he wrote — an entirely uninteresting article — about being married to another novelist. White female novelist, as it happens, and for whatever it’s worth.

    https://www.readitforward.com/essay/article/pauls-toutonghi-on-being-married-to-another-novelist/

  171. @Mr McKenna
    Really a beautiful woman, but the stories that got around NY when she was old were so splenetic they'd peel the paint right off your living room walls.

    ETA: Dear God she's still alive.

    Really a beautiful woman, but the stories that got around NY when she was old were so splenetic they’d peel the paint right off your living room walls.

    Yes, I agree. Marlo Thomas was one of my early TV crushes. I guess the vile temper goes with being a spoiled Hollywood princess.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
  172. @Hugo Silva
    Well he's just following his family tradition, the same way that is forefathers living in a muslim country adopted Western culture when it was seen as prestigious, now that American Whites are becoming a low status group the guy runs away from association with the Whites, his old man was just too set on his ways to understand the new pecking order where Whites are the lowest group. But i'm sure that in his second therm Mr. Trump will restore the Whites to their proper place of preeminence and that will be the end of the flight from white!!!

    More likely Pres. Hillary will put every White man in a reeducation camp.

    White people are doomed. We will all be poor and homeless with 45% at least unemployment and put in camps. We have neither money to flee or power to fight.

    This guy at least he knows the strong horse.

    • Disagree: BenKenobi
    • Replies: @Hugo Silva
    I'm sure you're wrong Whiskey, in his second therm Mr.Trump will Build the Wall, expel the illegal aliens, abolish affirmative action and outlaw trannies. Otherwise support of his presidency by pro-white activists would have been a waste of polítical capital leading to a political dead end, wouldn't it!
  173. @syonredux
    One of the author's sisters:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr8jwrL75rA

    That bish is cray-cray!

    Looks like it runs in the family; possibly from the moms side, since dad seems like a normal proud hard working American.

  174. anon[576] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    Right, as an older white Christian professor, he would be highly vulnerable to being #MeTooed in order to clear him out of his otherwise lifetime slot. How are we ever going to achieve diversity in the English Department if the white men with tenure stick around for another two or three decades? You literally have to wait for someone to die for a slot to open up. Maybe Wuhan Virus will speed up the process but up until now there were very few ways to get rid of these foul white men. It's easy enough to take the portraits of the dead ones down from the wall but the living breathing ones with tenure are a different matter.

    Maybe one of his former female students suddenly "remembers" that years during office hours he felt her up or something like that. This will trigger an investigation and in the meantime he is suspended from teaching or interacting with students. Maybe the investigation turns up other embarrassing stuff. It turns out that the university has records of all the websites that he visited from his office computer, even when he had his browser set on private. Now that this woman has come forward, several of his other former students remember certain inappropriate remarks that he made in 2009. He could tough it out or the university is offering him a severance package - if he goes away quietly, the investigation is terminated, he gets two years salary as severance and his full pension and can "resign".

    But as a brown Egyptian Muslim, he sits higher on the Diversity Totem Pole than a white woman and he has a certain amount of immunity in these ambiguous he said/she said situations. We should "Believe Women" when they accuse white guys but if the accused is a minority it's not so simple. We all remember the long history in America of brown men being falsely accused blah blah blah.

    Not to mention, "old white guy" pitching proposal for a book, for a lecture tour, etc. - gag me with a spoon. But, diverse brown Egyptian Arab Muslim intellectual - sign him up! Sexy!

    Now in the old days this exact process went on, but in the opposite direction. The Arab Eastern Christian Muzyad Yakhoob Kairouz becomes the white American Roman Catholic "Danny Thomas" because Muzyad knew which one was more advantageous for his career. In Toutonghi's case, his family has crossed the color line twice - once from brown(ish)* to white and now back again. I don't think they have to worry about a 3rd time because I don't see it ever becoming advantageous to be white in America ever again.

    Even if he hasn't thought this through on a conscious level, it's not necessary that he do so. Bin Laden said that when people are asked to choose between the strong horse and the weak horse they will always pick the strong horse and subconsciously Pauls knew which team is the better team for his career.

    *Not really. Even in the bad old days, Arab Christian immigrants (the only kind - Muslim immigrants were rare) were always considered "white".

    Right, as an older white Christian professor, he would be highly vulnerable to being #MeTooed in order to clear him out of his otherwise lifetime slot.

    He’s teaching at a private liberal arts college in Portlandia, Oregon.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_%26_Clark_College

    About 3500 students total. In a town where Antifa gets to own downtown when they want, by the way. Yeah, he could be #MeTooed. But more likely it’s just flight-from-white, which is easier to do in Portlandia where People of Color are a really small percentage of the population. Probably more Asians there than blacks, because of Intel’s major site right next door in Hillsboro; more Chinese / Korean and Indians than blacks.

    Also he doesn’t live in the “hood” because really and truly, Portlandia doesn’t have one. It’s too white for that .

    tl;dr
    He’s virtue signaling. But as an English prof at a dinky college, getting a New Yorker publication sure has to look good on his C.V.

    Oh, yeah, one more thing: I wonder how his online courses via Zoom are going now? This is the kind of college that might just evaporate over the next 10 years.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Also he doesn’t live in the “hood” because really and truly, Portlandia doesn’t have one. It’s too white for that .
     
    Portland has few blacks, but there is a small cluster that has been in the city for generations. They are being gentrified out by arrogant white SJWs (pardon the redundancies) and other hipsters.

    W Kamau Bell interviewed both sides on his United Shades of America. It's hard not to side with the blacks. It's not like they invaded and pushed out Henry and Ribsy and Beezus and Ramona.* Hipsters pushed them out, too.


    https://www.cnn.com/2016/05/27/opinions/w-kamau-bell-united-shades-portland/index.html

    Bell gives wise travel advice in the above:

    So I have a thing I do before I visit any place in this country. It's actually two things, but I always do them in rapid succession. First, I look the city up on Wikipedia. I do this to check out the racial demographics of where I'm going, and also just to see if anything bad enough has ever happened in the city to justify its own section on Wikipedia. Trust me when I tell you that you want to avoid any city with a controversy section on its page.
     
    *Speaking of Klickitat Street, Beverly Cleary turns 104 on Easter. Has she guested on The Simpsons yet? Mayor Quimby must be related to Ramona. Get the widow on the set!
  175. @res
    Thanks. Princeton makes an interesting example for this conversation given:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princeton_University

    Founded in 1746 in Elizabeth as the College of New Jersey, Princeton is the fourth-oldest institution of higher education in the United States and one of the nine colonial colleges chartered before the American Revolution.[8][a] The institution moved to Newark in 1747, then to the current site nine years later, and renamed itself Princeton University in 1896.[13]
     
    Boston University is also an interesting example given that Boston College is Jesuit.

    Boston University is also an interesting example given that Boston College is Jesuit.

    Boston College, the university in Chestnut Hill.

  176. @Rob
    I prett much agree with the father and the son here. I see Christian Middle Easterners as white, and the Muslims as non-white aliens. I mean, there are American whites with lots of different Protestant or Protestantized churches. That includes the Jack D sort of Protestant Jews, but not the Baruch Feldheim sort, make an effort to exploit and stay in high tension with society. (Is Feldheim Hasidic?) Christians from the Middle East seem to intermarry with Americans, Anglicize their names, and merge with America’s core population.

    The Muslim ones do none of the above. They’re so alien that they sometimes murder lots of people in gay nightclubs or go boom somewhere. Their kids are so un-American that some went to join ISIS and enslave Christians and Yazidis in land where Muslims are strong; as opposed to here, where Muslims are (currently?) weak. If a few did that as teenagers, lots more fantasized about it. They name all their sons Mohammed, live in Muslim communities, largely isolate their daughters, and make almost no effort to fit in.

    If there is hope for assimilating the Muslims, it lies in the women, who get a particularly raw deal, and must hear the siren song of the West. It’s interesting that Pauls’ sister quickly said her father was white. Does she see herself as a white American?

    Given all that, I’m perfectly willing to accept the deceased father as a white American, and the son as a non-white alien who needs to go back. What’s the opposite of assimilating? Dissimilating? We need to have a term for it besides ‘flight from white.’ Something that emphasizes that they’re less American for doing it.

    What’s the opposite of assimilating? Dissimilating? We need to have a term for it besides ‘flight from white.’

    This is Derb’s suggestion:

    https://www.isegoria.net/2016/06/absimilation/

  177. @Hebrew National
    This guy is a bore. As Egyptian-Americans looking to reconnect with their roots go, I much prefer Rami Youssef.

    https://youtu.be/I9R6vtcD09I

    Maybe Rami is more normal because he's Egyptian on both sides. Less angst and confusion about who he is.

    BTW I've changed my handle. My old handle was "International Jew". I hope that's ok...

    A pity. I liked “International Jew”. Redolent of better times.

    And I mostly liked your comments as well.

    One can hope that that approval will continue, but “Hebrew National”?

    Since Hebrew isn’t a nation, and since you didn’t use the more obvious “Israeli” presumably because that is precisely what you didn’t mean to say, well then, what do you mean to say?

    Or rather imply.

    • Replies: @Hebrew National
    Thanks for the kind words.

    To answer your question: I wanted something that sounded less ethnic.

    They should have Hebrew National hot dogs out your way.

    , @sayless
    "Hebrew National" is a brand of kosher hot dog. But Sabrett's seems to have more food carts on the streets.
  178. @nebulafox
    He's not mentally ill: that's an insult to mentally ill people who aren't ungrateful, sniveling jerks. He's just an idiot. He fails to understand that people outside his twisted social bubble would think him as despicable, not heroic, for bad-mouthing his late parent in the service of SJW ideology.

    The problem isn't that people like this exist, because they always do in any society. The problem is that the America's MSM is dominated by them, and is giving out social incentives for the weak-minded orbiting around them to ape their behavior.

    The problem isn’t that people like this exist, because they always do in any society. The problem is that the America’s MSM is dominated by them, and is giving out social incentives for the weak-minded orbiting around them to ape their behavior.

    This.

    Since the rise of Jewish minoritarianism–minorities virtuous, majorities evil–to the status of reigning state ideology, people are encouraged to find their inner twit head grievance, stew in it, blab about it. It can be the WASPy country clubs, the “anti-semitism” at Harvard Westlake, some pushy broad wanting you kid to stop playing on the escalator and get out of her way, someone thinking you look like a terrorist, a girl not wanting to date you … the list is endless, including nothing at all.

    All these whiners are effectively parasites. They’ve glommed onto the nation white gentiles built and you couldn’t pry them lose with a crowbar … but they trash it endlessly.

    In a normal healthy nation if some minority is hostile to or whining about the nation’s people and culture … “there’s the door!”

    But under minoritarianism, we are no longer a normal healthy nation.

  179. @nebulafox
    Near as I can tell, Americans of Middle Eastern extraction were just lumped in as white back in his father's day.

    I've heard that as recently as the early 1980s, some Americans with a Mexican background would get offended if they weren't viewed as white. Outside of places like NYC where there were already large non-European immigrant populations (Puerto Ricans) concentrated into a small geographic area with their own identity, "not white" was taken for granted as black, your token Razib Khans aside.

    One prominent Arab-American was Mohamed Atalla, co-inventor of the MOSFET, which is one of the most consequential inventions of the last century.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_M._Atalla

    The other co-inventor was Korean-American. The MOSFET was a real immigrant success story.

    Some people might say – see what America would be missing out on without immigration! However America managed to acquire both of these productive and talented gentleman without the benefit of Hart-Cellar or the Diversity Lottery.

  180. @Buffalo Joe
    RW, there was a "super spreader", to use your term, of AIDS. He was a male flight attendant for Air France IIRC. Fly into and out of cities all over the globe.

    RW, there was a “super spreader”, to use your term, of AIDS. He was a male flight attendant for Air France IIRC. Fly into and out of cities all over the globe.

    Air Canada.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaëtan_Dugas

    • Replies: @Alden
    I read the book about him I think it was called Patient Zero.
  181. @Old Palo Altan
    A pity. I liked "International Jew". Redolent of better times.

    And I mostly liked your comments as well.

    One can hope that that approval will continue, but "Hebrew National"?

    Since Hebrew isn't a nation, and since you didn't use the more obvious "Israeli" presumably because that is precisely what you didn't mean to say, well then, what do you mean to say?

    Or rather imply.

    Thanks for the kind words.

    To answer your question: I wanted something that sounded less ethnic.

    They should have Hebrew National hot dogs out your way.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
    Oops ... I should have googled it first.

    ... and now that I have done so, I think I'd like to try them when next in the New York area.

    If our masters ever allow us to travel again that is.

  182. The truth was this: I was angry at my father.

    The truth is: this guy is an annoying narcissist.

  183. So Danny’s youngest daughter was Marlo Kairouz.

    Wow. Who knew?

    The rest of the story.

  184. @res
    Thanks. Princeton makes an interesting example for this conversation given:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princeton_University

    Founded in 1746 in Elizabeth as the College of New Jersey, Princeton is the fourth-oldest institution of higher education in the United States and one of the nine colonial colleges chartered before the American Revolution.[8][a] The institution moved to Newark in 1747, then to the current site nine years later, and renamed itself Princeton University in 1896.[13]
     
    Boston University is also an interesting example given that Boston College is Jesuit.

    Thanks. Princeton makes an interesting example for this conversation given:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princeton_University

    Founded in 1746 in Elizabeth as the College of New Jersey, Princeton is the fourth-oldest institution of higher education in the United States and one of the nine colonial colleges chartered before the American Revolution.[8][a] The institution moved to Newark in 1747, then to the current site nine years later, and renamed itself Princeton University in 1896.[13]

    The College of New Jersey was informally called Princeton for quite some time before they officially changed the name.Plus, I suspect that some people disliked the vaguely non-elite connotations of a name like “The College of New Jersey” (Sounds too much like a Land-Grant uni).

    As a side note, Yale was frequently called New Haven back in the late 19th-early 20th century (E.g., in The Great Gatsby,Nick Carraway refers to having graduated from “New Haven” in 1915).

  185. @For what it's worth
    "Just weeks before my father died, I’d had a nasty argument with him, on the phone, about racial categories in America. I had called him when I’d heard that the 2020 census would likely include a Middle Eastern/North African designation. It was something that Arab-American activists had been advocating for more than two decades. I don’t know what I was thinking, calling Dad to tell him this. It was an obvious mistake, something I sensed as soon as I broached the subject.
    'You know what this is,' he told me. 'It’s the beginning of Sharia law. It’s so they can take over this country. It’s the first step.'

    I was driving and talking on a headset. I could imagine where he was—the only place he went these days—sitting in one corner of his reclining leather couch, wearing an ice pack on his swollen feet, watching Fox News. Diagnosed with congestive heart failure earlier that year, he was struggling even to stand up and walk to the kitchen. As he talked, I could hear the mossy purr of his oxygen machine.

    'Never mind,' I said. 'I shouldn’t have called.'"

    This doesn't sound like "an obvious mistake." It sounds like he knew perfectly well how his sick father, who loved him, would respond, and he goaded him anyway. I've seen liberal relatives do this to conservative fathers. It's Meathead harassing Archie. It might even have been their ingrained habit, right down to the son concluding that he'd made a "mistake" again, for the umpteenth time.

    “I don’t know what I was thinking, calling Dad to tell him this. It was an obvious mistake…”

    He knew exactly what he wanted, calling Dad to tell him this, even if he didn’t know what he was thinking.

    If he’d reflected a bit he would have known very well what he was thinking.

  186. @Known Fact
    A check of Ranker.com reveals a list of 12 middle-easterners (or of ME descent) who are current or former NHL hockey players -- it doesn't get much whiter than that

    https://www.ranker.com/list/middle-eastern-hockey-players/sportsyeah

    Zibanajad’s Dad was an Iranian but Christian conscript who walked away in the middle of the Iran/Iraq war and kept walking, eventually ending up in Sweden. Not included; Albanians Tie Domi nor his son Max. Don’t think either consider themselves any religion any more.

  187. @nebulafox
    He's not mentally ill: that's an insult to mentally ill people who aren't ungrateful, sniveling jerks. He's just an idiot. He fails to understand that people outside his twisted social bubble would think him as despicable, not heroic, for bad-mouthing his late parent in the service of SJW ideology.

    The problem isn't that people like this exist, because they always do in any society. The problem is that the America's MSM is dominated by them, and is giving out social incentives for the weak-minded orbiting around them to ape their behavior.

    Exactly that.

  188. @Old Palo Altan
    A pity. I liked "International Jew". Redolent of better times.

    And I mostly liked your comments as well.

    One can hope that that approval will continue, but "Hebrew National"?

    Since Hebrew isn't a nation, and since you didn't use the more obvious "Israeli" presumably because that is precisely what you didn't mean to say, well then, what do you mean to say?

    Or rather imply.

    “Hebrew National” is a brand of kosher hot dog. But Sabrett’s seems to have more food carts on the streets.

  189. So anything darker than a ginger is now “dusty brown?”

    • Replies: @syonredux

    So anything darker than a ginger is now “dusty brown?”
     
    Just a young Person of Color, trying to make it in a White Man's world.....


    https://landlordrocknyc.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/tumblr_lxyh26godp1qz84n6o1_500.jpg
  190. @Lagertha
    well, well...heard a whole bunch of doctors have been hoarding hydroxychloroquine (for their personal use/family/rich friends) in the Tri-State area. My friend is desperately trying to fill her script for her Lupus disease! You can bet New Yorkers who have means have connections to these corrupt doctors who began hoarding the meds in late February....based on my friend's knowledge. This whole thing in NYC & CT stinks to high heaven.

    Are that many rich New Yorkers still in New York? The beach town closest to me is crawling with New Jersey and New York tags. According to some friends who live there, they overheard them bragging about taking back roads to get here at a Publix.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    I said, "New Yorkers," knowing, that they have left NYC and infested our rural towns outside of NYC, even, 500 miles away. Fairfield County, Litchfield County and The Berkshires, The Cape (all New England) and the Jersey Shore, are hot spots for the virus because these infected and colossally selfish people decided to go to their 2nd or 3rd homes (and rent homes! for God's sake), and waltzed into our stores spreading the infection. The vanity of urban people, especially coastal ones, is just disgusting.
  191. @Paleoconn
    Tucker Carlson is right about these people, 'they don't make their beds and they hate their dads'. This guy still nurses the grudge 3 years after his father's passing.

    There are some Egyptians who are blonde and blue-eyed, presumably descended from Varangian raiders. This author's ancestors were whites from Syrian, and he is part-latvian to boot. Clearly his whiteness is what propelled him to these academic heights so he should relinquish those ill-gotten gains.

    Interesting, I first learned about Frantz Fanon from the movie Luce which I watched recently. Racial agitprop but gripping movie nonetheless. Good acting and well-written.

    Not necessarily descendants of Varangians. A small minority of Arabs are simply blonde and blue-eyed. If it comes from any source, it’s probably a throwback to native North African populations (similar to Kabyle Berbers),

    Just like a minority of Swedes look like Antonio Banderas. It doesn’t mean they are descendants of Spanish court musicians.

    The Guanches were blondish and had no connection to Germanic tribes.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    The Varangians only arrived centuries after the Arab conquests. I'd guess that most modern day Palestinians, Lebanese, Egyptians, and Syrians are mostly descended from the indigenous populace that was there before the Arab conquests. In the Roman days, you would have seen all kinds of complexions and facial features: including blue-eyed blondes, a legacy of Alexander.

    I'm sure there was some degree of intermarriage with the men from the desert, especially within the upper classes, and as the centuries went by, this did have a propagating effect on the actual genetic stew. Probably moreso than in Europe because unlike, say, the Ostrogoths, the local Romans got Arabized, not the other way around. Still, take a look at a guy like Assad: he could easily pass as European, and he's far from alone in Syrians that could. I'm pretty confident that's not an accident.

  192. @Hebrew National
    This guy is a bore. As Egyptian-Americans looking to reconnect with their roots go, I much prefer Rami Youssef.

    https://youtu.be/I9R6vtcD09I

    Maybe Rami is more normal because he's Egyptian on both sides. Less angst and confusion about who he is.

    BTW I've changed my handle. My old handle was "International Jew". I hope that's ok...

    My favorite hot dogs!

    Good choice.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar


    BTW I’ve changed my handle. My old handle was “International Jew”. I hope that’s ok…
     
    Good choice.
     
    Was this the best food commercial ever?



    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4QY4d-LrBEo
  193. @Known Fact
    Fortunately, B-Joe, the hospital in my conservative NY county still relies on leeches, potions and trephining -- not much for Il Duce to commandeer.

    Known Fact, guard your leeches, oh wait, downstate has plenty of leeches.

  194. @Buzz Mohawk
    My favorite hot dogs!

    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61S6gtTXKaL._SY300_QL70_.jpg

    Good choice.

    BTW I’ve changed my handle. My old handle was “International Jew”. I hope that’s ok…

    Good choice.

    Was this the best food commercial ever?

  195. @S. Anonyia
    So anything darker than a ginger is now "dusty brown?"

    So anything darker than a ginger is now “dusty brown?”

    Just a young Person of Color, trying to make it in a White Man’s world…..

    • Replies: @Alden
    The father’s shade of White is known as ivory. He might have done this to be hired at Lewis and Clark. White instructors are hired on the interview nowadays. They must express hatred of Whites and explain how their lesson plans will teach hatred of Whites including real science and even math. Maybe this scumbag is up for tenure or a promotion.
    , @dr kill
    Is Jackie Brown a color too?
    , @Jonathan Mason
    Isn't that the young Richard Nixon?
    , @MBlanc46
    He made it, but they got him in the end.
  196. @Hebrew National
    This guy is a bore. As Egyptian-Americans looking to reconnect with their roots go, I much prefer Rami Youssef.

    https://youtu.be/I9R6vtcD09I

    Maybe Rami is more normal because he's Egyptian on both sides. Less angst and confusion about who he is.

    BTW I've changed my handle. My old handle was "International Jew". I hope that's ok...

    Well, it’s about time. In the old pre-Unz days of iSteve, that was MY handle.

  197. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    This is just a classic example of the very simple and inflexible arithmetic of White race-mixing...

    White plus White equals White.
    White plus Non-White equals Non-White.
    There is no outcome where White plus Non-White equals White.

    Additionally...

    White plus Non-White equals Anti-White.

    Here is a delightful dessert recipe from THE MULTICULTURAL GOURMET (edited by I. Rosenbaum, with a Foreword by Dov Glattweiss)

    "New American" Ice Cream Sundae

    In a spacious dish, place two scoops of vanilla ice cream. Cover with two tbsp. butterscotch sauce. Top with four tbsp. of fresh whipped cream and 1/2 tsp. finely chopped walnuts. Then add two scoops of fresh, steaming dog shit. Mix well, making sure the dog shit coats everything.

    Enjoy! You'd better enjoy, because in a very short while, this will be the only recipe available. TIP: If you are squeamish about adding too much dog shit at first, try adding only a tsp. of dried dog shit flakes. Be assured that by the second generation, the flavor of dog shit will overpower everything else!

    “New American” Ice Cream Sundae

    Flashback: Ben & Jerry’s new ice cream flavor

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/ben-jerrys-guide-to-systemic-racism/#comment-2075997

    L’Chaim Migration

    In recognition of the Statue of Liberty poem! Grated shards of bitter chocolate are dumped in a huddled mass on a bedrock of vanilla ice cream. Topped with a crunch-tastic cookie time bomb.

  198. @syonredux
    One of the author's sisters:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr8jwrL75rA

    She looks like a girl of Swiss Mennonite ancestry I used to know. Definitely white.

  199. … in 1952, American audiences didn’t have much of a problem with seeing the Lebanese-American Thomas in a movie playing the husband of Doris Day.

    Yes, but it was shot in monochrome, so the subtle differences in race wouldn’t be so obvious. Neither would having a Lebanese Christian and a German Christian playing a Jewish couple.

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    I think the milennia-aged discrimination applied to all is based on shape, not color. If anything, color amelielorates the effect of shape.
  200. @Hebrew National
    This guy is a bore. As Egyptian-Americans looking to reconnect with their roots go, I much prefer Rami Youssef.

    https://youtu.be/I9R6vtcD09I

    Maybe Rami is more normal because he's Egyptian on both sides. Less angst and confusion about who he is.

    BTW I've changed my handle. My old handle was "International Jew". I hope that's ok...

    I like your hot dogs

    • Replies: @Monsieur le Baron
    A reduced fat hot dog?

    This strikes me as vaguely perverse.
    , @James Speaks
    I prefer Boar's Head. Hebrew National taste phony.
  201. @Coemgen
    Is the New Yorker a 21st century form of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanity_press ?

    Btw, why do "Egyptians" speak Arabic and not Coptic (i.e., Egyptian)?

    Btw, why do “Egyptians” speak Arabic and not Coptic (i.e., Egyptian)?

    They were conquered by Arabs in the 600s AD.

  202. @Corvinus
    "“Because we live here” is surprisingly often the beginning of wisdom."

    Which, if you would be willing to NOTICE rather than be cagey, President Trump is devoid of. See, I thought he would be clamping down on American companies engaging in this unpatriotic activity.

    https://theintercept.com/2020/04/01/coronavirus-medical-supplies-export/


    The U.S. government has placed no restrictions on exports of medical supplies while continuing to impose financial penalties on the import of personal protective gear, protective goggles, pulse oximeters, hand sanitizer, and other medical products from China.
     
    Meaning that our own corporations are profiting while our own people #DieForTheDow.

    https://theintercept.com/2020/04/01/coronavirus-medical-supplies-export

    Then again, Trump had the federal government compete with state governments for those limited domestic supplies.

    https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2020/03/26/charlie-baker-trump-administration-medical-supplies

    Should not the allegedly nationalistic Trump been consistently badgering our own corporations to make masks here, rather than import them? Why should our precious dollars be siphoned off to China? Although, the world is competing for those resources. Might as well beg, borrow, cheat, and steal...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/03/white-house-scrambles-scoop-up-medical-supplies-angering-canada-germany/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/business/coronavirus-china-masks.html

    Indeed, the CDC and FDA should help out, although it appears that imported masks do not necessarily measure up to our [gold] standard (because we live here, right, Mr. Sailer). I mean, it makes sense for our own medical professionals to be safe and secure with masks imported from Kenya or Brazil or India.

    Calling Jared Kushner, medical extraordinaire (snicker snack) to the rescue?

    https://reason.com/2020/03/31/america-could-import-countless-more-face-masks-if-federal-regulators-would-get-out-of-the-way/


    "[O]ne of the reasons why America is facing a face mask shortage is the CDC itself. Hospitals are only allowed to purchase masks from suppliers certified by both the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA)—though they can accept donations from any source (more on that in a moment). Many foreign companies that make face masks lack those certifications, which limits the imported supply available to meet America's rising demand. Even suppliers who are certified to sell masks to Americans have to navigate a weeks-long bureaucratic process before orders can be fulfilled. Suppliers who aren't certified by those federal agencies can't legally bring their products into the United States. That means supplies of KN95 masks—a Chinese certification for face masks that 3M Corporation's personal safety division says are "reasonable to consider….as equivalent" to N95 masks—can't be legally imported by hospitals for health care workers to use."
     

    No, you’re wrong.

    Btw, one of your FIVE links is in there twice. You might want to hire an editor, retard.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "No, you’re wrong."

    That's not even an argument. In order to prove your assertion, you have to supply evidence, rather than ad hominem. Perhaps this intellectual exercise is above your pay grade.
  203. @Paleo Liberal
    One cannot predict the future as easily as you seem to think.

    You think his family will never want to return to white again. This is not necessarily true.

    One can imagine a time in the future when the US is more of a Latin American nation, with whites and some Asians at the top, and the browner folks lower down. The family might want to go back to white. Perhaps one of his descendants finds it better in the dating market to be a white male.

    One cannot predict the future as easily as you seem to think.

    Says the guy whose explanation for everything is “models have shown…”

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    A word to the wise —

    Everything you ever say about science, math, models, climate change, etc makes you look extremely stupid.

    You are a half brain moron who continuously demonstrates that he doesn’t have a clue what any of that means.

    And then you continue to attack me because science doesn’t fit in with your nut job conspiracy theories.

    Go fuck yourself and stay away from people with an actual brain.
  204. jon says:
    @PiltdownMan
    Here's a review, from 2006, of Pauls Toutonghi's first novel.

    Teen wallows in angst amid his father's dashed hopes

    https://www.sfgate.com/books/article/Teen-wallows-in-angst-amid-his-father-s-dashed-2531915.php
     

    From the review:

    Although Yuri is the one sharing this story with us, he is not the novel’s most likable character. In fact, he initially comes across as cold and self-centered, a kid with little respect for the misery his parents have gone through or an appreciation for the work they’ve done trying to provide him with the American dream.

    Yuri aside, the star of “Red Weather” is the colorful Rudolfi. He’s the man you don’t want as a guest at that important dinner party. He’s loud and obnoxious, has a penchant for losing his temper and is something of an alcoholic. No bottle of bourbon is safe around him. For a man with so many unlikable traits, Rudolfi is an endearing sort. He’s a man who quickly earns our sympathy, for we all know what it’s like to nurse dreams that will never materialize. There is something noble in someone struggling silently to make the best of his less-than-satisfying circumstances.
    Rudolfi is a man who has very little in life, but he’s willing to share it with any loved one in need. It’s because we develop compassion for Rudolfi that Yuri’s behavior can at times be irksome.

    Even in this cherry-picked and fictionalized version of his life, Paul (Yuri) ends up coming across as the asshole, and his father as the hero. Sad!

  205. In 1909, The Department of Justice determined that a Syrian-Lebanese by the name of George Shishim was, in fact, white and not an Asian-Mongolian. The winning argument?

    “If I am a Mongolian, then so was Jesus, because we came from the same land.”. Thus, California set a precedent upon which other states based their decision on this matter, granting U.S. citizenship to Lebanese, Syrians, and all Arabs.

    In Dow v. United States, the United States Court of Appeals, Fourth Circuit, determined that a Syrian by the name of George Dow was white.

    In both of these cases, the applicant was Christian and wanted to meld into the existing society. In fact, the latter was the overriding characteristic of most immigrants from the Levant and North Africa.

    This trend towards self identification as Syrian or Lebanese may be a form of rebellion against the continued obsequious attitude towards Rogue State. In other words, if whites choose to self destruct in servitude to members of a phony tribe, then maybe white isn’t all that great.

    But, all that is coming to an end.

  206. @PiltdownMan
    Joseph Toutonghi lived in Seattle. His obituary says that his first wife was named Mary—I assume her married name was Mary Toutonghi.

    Some years ago, a Seattle woman named Mary Toutonghi recalled that she babysat Barack Obama, when he and his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, lived in Seattle for a while, in the early 1960s.

    http://redoubtreporter.blogspot.com/2009/01/obama-baby-sitter-awaits-new-era.html

    “It was interesting, and I don’t know why she was going to school in Seattle and he was in Hawaii at the time. She had told me at one point that because of her husband’s post in the tribe he was going to have to go back to Kenya and marry a black woman, as well. It was a whole different world, so she was accepting of that and hoping she could get back to him soon,” Toutonghi said.

    That didn’t quite work out for her. His father was an asshole, the marriage was an obvious scam, and his mother was still just a teen. The whole situation was scummy through-and-through, but the press just passed over it all.

  207. @fish

    Jameel Farah came a little earlier, so he had to become Jamie Farr, even though his character on MASH was explicitly Lebanese.
     
    Really? Explicitly Lebanese.....and yet there are those who say the US is homophobic.


    (Sorry.....couldn’t resist! Old Benny Hill bit.)

    Growing up, my friends and I used to call lesbians Lebanese, didn’t realize that came from Benny Hill.

  208. @William Badwhite
    I like your hot dogs

    https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/747fed2a-9929-467d-94a7-bfae2a5f7240_1.415016cdafcc14e9279900c2b0009310.jpeg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF

    A reduced fat hot dog?

    This strikes me as vaguely perverse.

  209. @syonredux

    So anything darker than a ginger is now “dusty brown?”
     
    Just a young Person of Color, trying to make it in a White Man's world.....


    https://landlordrocknyc.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/tumblr_lxyh26godp1qz84n6o1_500.jpg

    The father’s shade of White is known as ivory. He might have done this to be hired at Lewis and Clark. White instructors are hired on the interview nowadays. They must express hatred of Whites and explain how their lesson plans will teach hatred of Whites including real science and even math. Maybe this scumbag is up for tenure or a promotion.

    • Replies: @JackOH
    Alden, this from my local Podunk Tech's job posting for a tenure track assistant professorship in electrical engineering:

    "Submit a Diversity Statement under “Other Document 1” in which you describe your experiences, current interests or activities, and/or future goals that promote a climate that values diversity and inclusion in one or more areas of scholarship, instruction and outreach."
  210. @Reg Cæsar

    RW, there was a “super spreader”, to use your term, of AIDS. He was a male flight attendant for Air France IIRC. Fly into and out of cities all over the globe.
     
    Air Canada.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaëtan_Dugas

    I read the book about him I think it was called Patient Zero.

  211. @anon

    Sickening
     
    What kind of dickhead gives their sick father grief like that?

    What kind of dickhead gives their sick father grief like that?

    Not only gives his sick father grief, but after the poor guy died, he wrote an entire article crowing about how he finally “won” an ongoing political argument with him; publicly throwing his own father under the bus to satisfy the demands of his ego — and to signal his abject submission to The Narrative.

    The irony is that, despite Toutonghi’s incessant subaltern-LARPing and performative Third-Worldism, this sort of behavior is far more characteristic of modern “Western” societies than of his (paternal) ancestral homeland, whatever its flaws…

  212. @Hebrew National
    This guy is a bore. As Egyptian-Americans looking to reconnect with their roots go, I much prefer Rami Youssef.

    https://youtu.be/I9R6vtcD09I

    Maybe Rami is more normal because he's Egyptian on both sides. Less angst and confusion about who he is.

    BTW I've changed my handle. My old handle was "International Jew". I hope that's ok...

    So now we know the power behind the Jews?

  213. @Whiskey
    More likely Pres. Hillary will put every White man in a reeducation camp.

    White people are doomed. We will all be poor and homeless with 45% at least unemployment and put in camps. We have neither money to flee or power to fight.

    This guy at least he knows the strong horse.

    I’m sure you’re wrong Whiskey, in his second therm Mr.Trump will Build the Wall, expel the illegal aliens, abolish affirmative action and outlaw trannies. Otherwise support of his presidency by pro-white activists would have been a waste of polítical capital leading to a political dead end, wouldn’t it!

  214. @Hebrew National
    Thanks for the kind words.

    To answer your question: I wanted something that sounded less ethnic.

    They should have Hebrew National hot dogs out your way.

    Oops … I should have googled it first.

    … and now that I have done so, I think I’d like to try them when next in the New York area.

    If our masters ever allow us to travel again that is.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Hebrew National dogs are commonly sold in California at independent hot dog carts. That will require large parks and county fairs to reopen though.

    The fat free all beef dogs at the grocery store are pretty good. Lots of protein, shame about the nitrates.

  215. @ScarletNumber
    Amazingly enough, she has no children. Her husband Phil Donahue has 5 children with his first wife.

    Here's something I didn't know. Her brother Tony is a TV producer who is responsible for such hits as Soap, Benson, and The Golden Girls.

    “Amazingly enough, she has no children”

    TV/Hollywood seems to be a fertility sink for women. Music, too. Look at Stevie Nicks regretting her abortion, Kylie Minogue. Whereas male stars like Jagger, Rod Stewart, Paul Weller, loads of soul artists have many children.

  216. anonymous[541] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buffalo Joe
    RW, there was a "super spreader", to use your term, of AIDS. He was a male flight attendant for Air France IIRC. Fly into and out of cities all over the globe.

    He was flying in and out of other things, too, that’s how he got to be a super-spreader.

  217. @Joe Stalin
    Gee, NY land of Cosmopolitan Gun Control. Magazine capacity bans. Everything licensed. Derbs' handgun ordered turned in. People's Militia made irrelevant through Gun Registration.

    Now, medical gear necessary for life seized for the Cosmopolitans.

    Where have seen something similar before?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aF_sRXVdoU

    Did Derb ever get his gun back? His was an especially stupid case — Constitutional right violated because some jerk involved his son in a bar fight, then cried about it to the cops, with the son happening to be under the same roof at the time, so the seizure was about separating the gun from the temporarily visiting son and not the gun’s owner. I am mystified that the Republican Quisling move on red flag laws was to mumble vaguely that protections would be put in place and that the seizure would be temporary. It is hard to imagine anyone, even them, believing that for a second. Of course, if Derb got his gun back, that would be at least one example.

  218. @William Badwhite
    No, you're wrong.

    Btw, one of your FIVE links is in there twice. You might want to hire an editor, retard.

    “No, you’re wrong.”

    That’s not even an argument. In order to prove your assertion, you have to supply evidence, rather than ad hominem. Perhaps this intellectual exercise is above your pay grade.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite

    That’s not even an argument. In order to prove your assertion, you have to supply evidence, rather than ad hominem
     
    "No, you're wrong" is not ad hominem. It is a baseless assertion. Ad hominem was when I called you a retard.

    Baseless assertions are the entirety of your repetitive "Nuh uhh actually you meant..." routine. According to the rules of logic, a baseless assertion can be countered with a baseless assertion. So in case you haven't put it together by now, I was mocking you.
  219. @William Badwhite

    One cannot predict the future as easily as you seem to think.
     
    Says the guy whose explanation for everything is "models have shown..."

    A word to the wise —

    Everything you ever say about science, math, models, climate change, etc makes you look extremely stupid.

    You are a half brain moron who continuously demonstrates that he doesn’t have a clue what any of that means.

    And then you continue to attack me because science doesn’t fit in with your nut job conspiracy theories.

    Go fuck yourself and stay away from people with an actual brain.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    Hey, what happened to your insufferable, cloying earnestness?

    LOL
  220. @danand
    Pauls’ brother, Steve, had this to say:

    “March 31st, Dad would have been 88 today.
    My siblings and I each had our own relationship with our Dad. I think we all agree he was a complicated person. I'm glad my brother Pauls wrote this--it explores things that are very painful--to me it feels like an act of love.”
     
    https://flic.kr/p/2iLMWGn

    Maybe the boys take after their mother?

    C’mon people, how does he look that much different than a younger version of actor Brad Garrett (“Robbie” on Everyone Loves Raymond) — the close-set eyes, the largish schnoz, the high forehead, the earnest look?

  221. This is allegedly an Italian labor union boasting that they successfully stopped private hospitals in a region from testing for Xi Jinping Cough so that all testing would have to be through the public hospitals. If true this looks illustrative of the situation there as opposed to say South Korea.
    https://postimg.cc/SY6MTVTc

  222. Everything you ever say about science, math, models, climate change, etc makes you look extremely stupid.

    You’re the one that said “you can’t predict the future” but has strongly held political views that involve modeling and “experts” predicting the future. Cognitive dissonance is alive and well in your geriatric head.

    As an aside, I guarantee you I’ve forgotten more about modeling than you’ve ever known. Modeling is what I spent over half my time on during the first 10 years of my career. This is why I understand their limitations. So I will continue to remind you that you do not remotely understand the science of climate change when you claim that you do. If this makes you angry I’d suggest some self-reflection.

    Go fuck yourself .

    Classy! “Shut up he explained”. Leftists always seem get so angry when people disagree with them.

    and stay away from people with an actual brain

    Weak. As I’ve said in prior comments, people whose primary mode of argument is calling other people stupid is almost always an indicator of a 2nd rate intellect.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  223. “North London men”

    Three north London men have been jailed for raping a 16-year-old school girl, after one threatened her with a machete, robbed her and held her captive.

    [MORE]

    https://postimg.cc/D40rxRJH
    Roberto French, 22, Abdisalam Mohamad, 21, and Hilal Mohamed, 22, face a combined prison term of 45 years over the incident which took place in August 2016.
    During the trial, which ended on February 6, 2020, jurors heard how the victim had travelled to London from Bristol when French held a machete against her throat while robbing her in front of the other two men.
    The 22-year-old then falsely imprisoned her in a residential block in Enfield, where she was forced by the defendants to perform oral sex on each of them.
    Three guilty of ‘horrific’ rape of schoolgirl, 16, in north London
    Once the assault was over, French followed the victim as she attempted to make her escape.
    Abdisalam Mohamad and Hilal Mohamed were both sentenced to 14 years each for rape at Wood Green Count Court on Friday.
    French was sentenced at the same court to 17 years for rape, five years for robbery and 10 for false imprisonment, to run concurrently.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/three-jailed-enfield-rape-imprisonment-wood-green-crown-court-a4406911.html

  224. @Corvinus
    "No, you’re wrong."

    That's not even an argument. In order to prove your assertion, you have to supply evidence, rather than ad hominem. Perhaps this intellectual exercise is above your pay grade.

    That’s not even an argument. In order to prove your assertion, you have to supply evidence, rather than ad hominem

    “No, you’re wrong” is not ad hominem. It is a baseless assertion. Ad hominem was when I called you a retard.

    Baseless assertions are the entirety of your repetitive “Nuh uhh actually you meant…” routine. According to the rules of logic, a baseless assertion can be countered with a baseless assertion. So in case you haven’t put it together by now, I was mocking you.

    • Agree: BenKenobi
  225. OT–for months vox.com told people not to wear masks in public, Matthew Iglesias, however, ordered his stash in February, already.


    https://archive.vn/crRrB

  226. @Anonymous
    Let me guess: your dad was also Egyptian & watched Fox News?

    One has to wonder what’s on Corvirus’s bookshelf. Dissimulating for the Complete Klutz? The Berenstain Bears Survive the Holocaust?

    • Agree: R.G. Camara
    • LOL: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    On my bookshelf? History and politics, along with the classics. Do It Yourself materials, books about card games...and the complete Calvin & Hobbes collection. It's called being a learned (white) man.

    Try it sometime, Reg. Your collection of Redbook ain't cutting it.
  227. Was his father’s stage name
    Roger Whitaker?

    Portland- where the professor teaches- has a good size population of Melkite Catholics of Syrian origin, just like his father. Man they love his Excellency Bashar Al-Assad President of the Syrian Democratic Republic.
    They support President Assad mostly for the selfish reason that the Assad administration is the only thing protecting them from being slaughtered by Syrian Muslims.

  228. OT:

    Does anyone know what Vos Savant (smartest person in the world) is talking about in this video (1986). Is she talking about stereotype-threat, or is she saying that black people and women didn’t contribute much to human knowledge?

  229. @syonredux

    So anything darker than a ginger is now “dusty brown?”
     
    Just a young Person of Color, trying to make it in a White Man's world.....


    https://landlordrocknyc.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/tumblr_lxyh26godp1qz84n6o1_500.jpg

    Is Jackie Brown a color too?

  230. Anon[377] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    Three race clustering? As in Bushmen A, Bushmen B and Everyone Else?

    Three race clustering? As in Bushmen A, Bushmen B and Everyone Else?

    Nope. Charles Murray’s new book, “Human Diversity” covers this in an extensively endnoted chapter 7. There have been many cluster analysis techniques and programs used since Calvalli-Sforza first applied the technique pre-SNP in 1996. Each and every one of them result in Africa as a single cohesive cluster versus whatever number of non-African clusters you want. This is counterintuitive, but it’s simply statistical math applied to data. Murray cites the technical references and has an intuitive analogy involving a hypothetical interstellar starship that helps explain what’s going on.

    Cavalli-Sforza’s initial findings:

    The cluster analysis used by Cavalli-Sforza and Bowcock confirmed (as have all subsequent analyses) that the great bulk of variation in humans is within populations, not between them, just as Lewontin said. But even with the limited measures of genetic variation available in the early 1990s, their clusters corresponded to the geographic origin of the subjects at the continental level.

    These results from a 2008 study that used genome scans of a wide set of people are typical (in cluster analysis you input how many clusters to solve for, K):

    At K = 2, two sets of the 51 populations in the Li study’s database had virtually no overlap: populations in sub-Saharan Africa versus populations in East Asia plus a few in the Americas. All the other populations were mixtures of the two clusters.

    At K = 3, the people who showed virtually no admixture across clusters consisted of individuals from sub-Saharan Africa, today’s Europe and Mideast, and the East Asian–Americas group. Those from Central and South Asia had varying mixtures of the European/Mideast and East Asian/Amerind clusters.

    At K = 4, the Amerindians split off to form a separate cluster.

    At K = 5, the Oceania populations split off.

    At K = 6, the Central and South Asians split off.

    At K = 7, the configuration that the authors assessed as the most informative, those in the Mideast split off from the Europeans.

    There are many studies using different algorithms and different data sets with the same results, which Murray reports on.

  231. @Old Palo Altan
    Oops ... I should have googled it first.

    ... and now that I have done so, I think I'd like to try them when next in the New York area.

    If our masters ever allow us to travel again that is.

    Hebrew National dogs are commonly sold in California at independent hot dog carts. That will require large parks and county fairs to reopen though.

    The fat free all beef dogs at the grocery store are pretty good. Lots of protein, shame about the nitrates.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
    Note that I am an Old Palo Altan, meaning former. I'm in North Britain these days.

    But I'm much more likely to be in California later this year than New York, so your information is welcome.
  232. The former NYT reporter who wrote a well researched anti-marijuana book has been super-tweeting against corona shutdown/self-induced Great Depression II.

    He avoids the conspiracy theorizing and “just the flu” counter-reaction that’s too common among the anti-shutdowners, instead just sticking to the facts.

  233. @Paleo Liberal
    A word to the wise —

    Everything you ever say about science, math, models, climate change, etc makes you look extremely stupid.

    You are a half brain moron who continuously demonstrates that he doesn’t have a clue what any of that means.

    And then you continue to attack me because science doesn’t fit in with your nut job conspiracy theories.

    Go fuck yourself and stay away from people with an actual brain.

    Hey, what happened to your insufferable, cloying earnestness?

    LOL

    • Agree: William Badwhite
  234. @nebulafox
    >That’s an insult to low IQ people who are otherwise very sweet.

    Touche.

    Then I will shift to him being an blasphemous, effete, un-filial dip****. Most people can avoid being one of those.

    >There are mentally ill people who are criminal, merely jerky, or sweet, but the common denominator is the failure to perceive the outside world (especially other people) with reasonable accuracy and engaging in thoughts and behaviors that are harmful to themselves and/or others.

    Eh... that seems to describe far more people than just the crazies these days. Or maybe the world is just getting crazier.

    Eh… that seems to describe far more people than just the crazies these days. Or maybe the world is just getting crazier.

    That’s empirically true. More people (esp. young people) are diagnosed and treated for mental illness.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    >That’s empirically true. More people (esp. young people) are diagnosed and treated for mental illness.

    And that leads to an interesting question that has been preying on my mind: how much of this is widening and loosening standards on what mental illness actually is vs. a changing world that exacerbates or makes it harder to hide atypical mental chemistry?

    (I'm reasonably certain I would have been considered a somewhat eccentric but mentally normal young man in the 1950s. Certainly not "autistic": I'm too young to remember this with certainty, but back in the 1990s, near as I can tell, the common image for that was Rain Man. Way more stimuli, far less predictable social scripts and more lying, less toleration for obsessions at the expense of communication skills outside of a couple of sectors of the economy, parental desire to diagnose their kids so they can be misunderstood, special victims instead of accepting personality failings or weaknesses or mediocrity, the fact that HR lady/educrat culture tends to view male personalities uncongenial to them as pathologies these days, off the top of my head... I'm sure they all play a role in the explosion of diagnoses. Not just in the US, though I'd argue that "diagnosis culture" is particularly bad in the US, at least within the upper-middle class.

    I wonder how much ADHD rates would go down if video games disappeared and kids were given more time to run around?)

  235. Anon[218] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    Let’s talk about my hair.

    Specifically, what the hell does one do about haircuts in this new age? What are people doing? Is battlefield barbering going to be a new internet how-to trend? What do you do about back-of-the-neck fur? Would you cut your own hair? Let your significant other do it? Just let it grow? Shave it all off, popular for balding guys pre-quarantine, but do you really want daily grooming chores like that these days?

    More importantly, what do black women do? Will underground black hair salons be a major vector of the coronavirus in the vibrant community? Will the New York Times and the Washington Post publish op-eds on this? Will activists agitate for diversion of PPE from medical staff treating old white hegemonic colonialist patriarchal men to workers of color in essential hair salon businesses?

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    218, ask Andrew Cuomo. Somehow in this time of no barbering he seems freshly trimmed.
    , @Lot
    https://66.media.tumblr.com/273ffeef5c4f1b5f2df4b035d07ad339/tumblr_ngptkpUpt41rpduwho1_500.gif

    https://i.giphy.com/media/ToMjGpK0ZoDoyheUEIU/giphy.gif
    , @anon
    Specifically, what the hell does one do about haircuts in this new age?

    https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2020/03/31/coronavirus-pandemic-upends-mens-grooming-routines/
    , @Reg Cæsar
    Anyone else here developing an involuntary coronamullet? Both my beard trimmers konked out, and I've been trimming by hand. Then I advanced to clipping the hair away from eyes and ears. But I can't do the back in the mirror.

    All of a sudden I look like Hall and Oates.
  236. @S. Anonyia
    Are that many rich New Yorkers still in New York? The beach town closest to me is crawling with New Jersey and New York tags. According to some friends who live there, they overheard them bragging about taking back roads to get here at a Publix.

    I said, “New Yorkers,” knowing, that they have left NYC and infested our rural towns outside of NYC, even, 500 miles away. Fairfield County, Litchfield County and The Berkshires, The Cape (all New England) and the Jersey Shore, are hot spots for the virus because these infected and colossally selfish people decided to go to their 2nd or 3rd homes (and rent homes! for God’s sake), and waltzed into our stores spreading the infection. The vanity of urban people, especially coastal ones, is just disgusting.

    • Replies: @hhsiii
    I get that. But I decamped my family to East Quogue, my sister’s second home. She’s in Houston. My niece had been out here for a couple of weeks but left for Houston 2 weeks ago. I can’t afford a second home. I rent my first one (although I own a 1 br in outer Brooklyn where my mother in law stays).

    Look at it from my perspective. I should stay in NYC? It’s selfish? Maybe. I guess preserving your life and family’s life is selfish by definition. We wear masks when we go to the store out here. We alternate days. Some clerks at grocery stores out here wear masks. Some don’t.

    I hear that. Some that live here resent the people who own second homes coming here and taxing resources off season. But what the heck, you own property, use it. I don’t think they mind the business in summer.

    It’s a low key place, East Quogue. Part of South Hampton but not very Hamptony.
  237. @Anon
    OT

    Let's talk about my hair.

    Specifically, what the hell does one do about haircuts in this new age? What are people doing? Is battlefield barbering going to be a new internet how-to trend? What do you do about back-of-the-neck fur? Would you cut your own hair? Let your significant other do it? Just let it grow? Shave it all off, popular for balding guys pre-quarantine, but do you really want daily grooming chores like that these days?

    More importantly, what do black women do? Will underground black hair salons be a major vector of the coronavirus in the vibrant community? Will the New York Times and the Washington Post publish op-eds on this? Will activists agitate for diversion of PPE from medical staff treating old white hegemonic colonialist patriarchal men to workers of color in essential hair salon businesses?

    218, ask Andrew Cuomo. Somehow in this time of no barbering he seems freshly trimmed.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    I occasionally cut my own hair, what there is left of it, with a Flowbee.

    My 78 year old barber just croaked so I suppose I will have to get better at it. Chicks dig a good a hair cut, doncha know.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flowbee#/media/File:Man_using_Flowbee_to_cut_his_hair.jpg
  238. @Reg Cæsar
    One has to wonder what's on Corvirus's bookshelf. Dissimulating for the Complete Klutz? The Berenstain Bears Survive the Holocaust?

    On my bookshelf? History and politics, along with the classics. Do It Yourself materials, books about card games…and the complete Calvin & Hobbes collection. It’s called being a learned (white) man.

    Try it sometime, Reg. Your collection of Redbook ain’t cutting it.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    lol. It's amusing that this Media Matters troll is trying to pretend he's intelligent and well read.

    Me thinks the paid troll doth protest too much.....
  239. @Anon
    OT

    Let's talk about my hair.

    Specifically, what the hell does one do about haircuts in this new age? What are people doing? Is battlefield barbering going to be a new internet how-to trend? What do you do about back-of-the-neck fur? Would you cut your own hair? Let your significant other do it? Just let it grow? Shave it all off, popular for balding guys pre-quarantine, but do you really want daily grooming chores like that these days?

    More importantly, what do black women do? Will underground black hair salons be a major vector of the coronavirus in the vibrant community? Will the New York Times and the Washington Post publish op-eds on this? Will activists agitate for diversion of PPE from medical staff treating old white hegemonic colonialist patriarchal men to workers of color in essential hair salon businesses?

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Flowbee!

    https://www.amazon.com/FLOWBEE-Haircutting-machine-Flowbee-System/dp/B000PPBSTC
  240. @Jack D
    In the musical "Oklahoma", which takes place in the Jim Crow South, there is a character of a "Persian" peddler named Ali Hakim (played in the original Broadway production by Groucho Marx, BTW). (Persian is just ignorant confusion - the real Arab peddlers of the South were Christians from what is today Syria or Lebanon. ) The white female characters in the play fall in love with, and one later marries, Ali so clearly he would have been "white". The Arab emigration in those days was mostly young men and 80% married white American women. Legally they were classified as "white" or they wouldn't have been allowed to immigrate in the 1st place.

    If Pauls's family had been from Egypt, he would have had some sort of case for calling himself non-white. Egyptians have a lot of African admixture. But Syrians and Lebanese are as white as any Mediterranean people. Pauls is a particularly outrageous case of a white Christian guy reclassifying himself out of whiteness. He is 2nd only to Rachel Dolezal. Maybe 3rd after Liz Warren.

    Technically, OK is not a Southern state. It’s Southwestern. The film doesn’t really emphasize the Jim Crow aspects. The farm, agrarian way of life is.

  241. @Corvinus
    On my bookshelf? History and politics, along with the classics. Do It Yourself materials, books about card games...and the complete Calvin & Hobbes collection. It's called being a learned (white) man.

    Try it sometime, Reg. Your collection of Redbook ain't cutting it.

    lol. It’s amusing that this Media Matters troll is trying to pretend he’s intelligent and well read.

    Me thinks the paid troll doth protest too much…..

  242. @Anon
    OT

    Let's talk about my hair.

    Specifically, what the hell does one do about haircuts in this new age? What are people doing? Is battlefield barbering going to be a new internet how-to trend? What do you do about back-of-the-neck fur? Would you cut your own hair? Let your significant other do it? Just let it grow? Shave it all off, popular for balding guys pre-quarantine, but do you really want daily grooming chores like that these days?

    More importantly, what do black women do? Will underground black hair salons be a major vector of the coronavirus in the vibrant community? Will the New York Times and the Washington Post publish op-eds on this? Will activists agitate for diversion of PPE from medical staff treating old white hegemonic colonialist patriarchal men to workers of color in essential hair salon businesses?

    Specifically, what the hell does one do about haircuts in this new age?

    https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2020/03/31/coronavirus-pandemic-upends-mens-grooming-routines/

  243. @Richard of Melbourne
    The father sounds like an OK guy - someone you would be happy to have a beer with.

    What a sad fate for him, that his son turned out to be a miserable, whining POS.

    What a sad fate for him, that his son turned out to be a miserable, whining POS.

    Come to the richest freest most welcoming country the world has ever seen, get a decent job, and all you can do is bitch about how that country and its people has failed you.

    STFU or GTFO.

  244. @Hebrew National
    This guy is a bore. As Egyptian-Americans looking to reconnect with their roots go, I much prefer Rami Youssef.

    https://youtu.be/I9R6vtcD09I

    Maybe Rami is more normal because he's Egyptian on both sides. Less angst and confusion about who he is.

    BTW I've changed my handle. My old handle was "International Jew". I hope that's ok...

    Well, it’s about time. Back in the pre-Unz iSteve days, “International Jew” was MY handle.

  245. @Buffalo Joe
    218, ask Andrew Cuomo. Somehow in this time of no barbering he seems freshly trimmed.

    I occasionally cut my own hair, what there is left of it, with a Flowbee.

    My 78 year old barber just croaked so I suppose I will have to get better at it. Chicks dig a good a hair cut, doncha know.

  246. Anonymous[284] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    In the musical "Oklahoma", which takes place in the Jim Crow South, there is a character of a "Persian" peddler named Ali Hakim (played in the original Broadway production by Groucho Marx, BTW). (Persian is just ignorant confusion - the real Arab peddlers of the South were Christians from what is today Syria or Lebanon. ) The white female characters in the play fall in love with, and one later marries, Ali so clearly he would have been "white". The Arab emigration in those days was mostly young men and 80% married white American women. Legally they were classified as "white" or they wouldn't have been allowed to immigrate in the 1st place.

    If Pauls's family had been from Egypt, he would have had some sort of case for calling himself non-white. Egyptians have a lot of African admixture. But Syrians and Lebanese are as white as any Mediterranean people. Pauls is a particularly outrageous case of a white Christian guy reclassifying himself out of whiteness. He is 2nd only to Rachel Dolezal. Maybe 3rd after Liz Warren.

    Both DeBakey and Thomas were not White Southerners, though their most important contributions happened in Southern settings – Houston and Memphis respectively. Each man was way ahead of his time in terms of race. Neither man permitted Jim Crow racial mores to dictate how the valuable medical services they provided were dispensed:

    Danny Thomas: https://www.stjude.org/about-st-jude/stories/making-a-difference/pioneer-for-integration.html

    Debakey: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/outlook/article/Dr-Michael-DeBakey-was-more-than-a-legendary-14853617.php

    Jack D is a fraud. Ive been hounding him all weekend.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    Both DeBakey and Thomas were not White Southerners,
     
    DeBakey was born in Louisiana. He was raised in Louisiana. He went to medical school in Louisiana (Tulane).And he spent the bulk of his professional career in Texas (Baylor College of Medicine). And I'm pretty sure that he was legally classified as White.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_DeBakey
  247. @anon
    Right, as an older white Christian professor, he would be highly vulnerable to being #MeTooed in order to clear him out of his otherwise lifetime slot.

    He's teaching at a private liberal arts college in Portlandia, Oregon.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_%26_Clark_College

    About 3500 students total. In a town where Antifa gets to own downtown when they want, by the way. Yeah, he could be #MeTooed. But more likely it's just flight-from-white, which is easier to do in Portlandia where People of Color are a really small percentage of the population. Probably more Asians there than blacks, because of Intel's major site right next door in Hillsboro; more Chinese / Korean and Indians than blacks.

    Also he doesn't live in the "hood" because really and truly, Portlandia doesn't have one. It's too white for that .

    tl;dr
    He's virtue signaling. But as an English prof at a dinky college, getting a New Yorker publication sure has to look good on his C.V.

    Oh, yeah, one more thing: I wonder how his online courses via Zoom are going now? This is the kind of college that might just evaporate over the next 10 years.

    Also he doesn’t live in the “hood” because really and truly, Portlandia doesn’t have one. It’s too white for that .

    Portland has few blacks, but there is a small cluster that has been in the city for generations. They are being gentrified out by arrogant white SJWs (pardon the redundancies) and other hipsters.

    W Kamau Bell interviewed both sides on his United Shades of America. It’s hard not to side with the blacks. It’s not like they invaded and pushed out Henry and Ribsy and Beezus and Ramona.* Hipsters pushed them out, too.

    https://www.cnn.com/2016/05/27/opinions/w-kamau-bell-united-shades-portland/index.html

    Bell gives wise travel advice in the above:

    So I have a thing I do before I visit any place in this country. It’s actually two things, but I always do them in rapid succession. First, I look the city up on Wikipedia. I do this to check out the racial demographics of where I’m going, and also just to see if anything bad enough has ever happened in the city to justify its own section on Wikipedia. Trust me when I tell you that you want to avoid any city with a controversy section on its page.

    *Speaking of Klickitat Street, Beverly Cleary turns 104 on Easter. Has she guested on The Simpsons yet? Mayor Quimby must be related to Ramona. Get the widow on the set!

    • Replies: @Bugg
    Then Mr. Bell had best stay away from Newburgh, NY right now https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/official-under-fire-after-suspect-tries-to-murder-cops-sets-off-civil-unrest/?fbclid=IwAR3PWRdJkK2N1ia6SETr4gpl-HJkZyx7xobMAYYigpIIKE8lWfERk3dK2Js
  248. Allah be praised! Finally a non-epidemic item at iSteve.

  249. @Anon
    OT

    Let's talk about my hair.

    Specifically, what the hell does one do about haircuts in this new age? What are people doing? Is battlefield barbering going to be a new internet how-to trend? What do you do about back-of-the-neck fur? Would you cut your own hair? Let your significant other do it? Just let it grow? Shave it all off, popular for balding guys pre-quarantine, but do you really want daily grooming chores like that these days?

    More importantly, what do black women do? Will underground black hair salons be a major vector of the coronavirus in the vibrant community? Will the New York Times and the Washington Post publish op-eds on this? Will activists agitate for diversion of PPE from medical staff treating old white hegemonic colonialist patriarchal men to workers of color in essential hair salon businesses?

    Anyone else here developing an involuntary coronamullet? Both my beard trimmers konked out, and I’ve been trimming by hand. Then I advanced to clipping the hair away from eyes and ears. But I can’t do the back in the mirror.

    All of a sudden I look like Hall and Oates.

    • Replies: @anon

    Anyone else here developing an involuntary coronamullet?
     
    No, but I've started growing a voluntary coranaskullet.
    It's like a 'short back and bald', but you grow a thing out the back. Kinda like a Hare Krishna devotee.
    , @Hebrew National
    If you have a spare face mask, you can use it as a hair net.
    , @PiltdownMan

    All of a sudden I look like Hall and Oates.
     
    A blond mullet and dark ringlets?

    Same here, by the way—we don't have a really sharp pair of scissors or trimmer in the house. My hairstyle amuses the PiltdownChildren. They were born too late to remember the brief era, back in the 1970s and early 1980s, when many adult men didn't have the closed-cropped haircuts that are, now, again the norm.

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NGAG_H_eMMU/URlUDANUoII/AAAAAAAAISg/f7cLynpHiQk/w1200-h630-p-k-nu/Plaidorama5.jpg

  250. Anonymous[203] • Disclaimer says:

    Well, well, welll, 1,169 deaths yesterday, 1,480 today. America is breaking records in this pandemic. When will America reach quintuple-digit deaths a day? If the statistical trend continues, this is a real possibility in a month or two…

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Anon 203, looked up the stats for the 4/ 2009-4/2010 H1N1 virus, just for comparison. US numbers only, 60.8 million cases, 274,308 hospitalizations and 12,469 deaths. CDC website.
  251. @S. Anonyia
    Not necessarily descendants of Varangians. A small minority of Arabs are simply blonde and blue-eyed. If it comes from any source, it's probably a throwback to native North African populations (similar to Kabyle Berbers),

    Just like a minority of Swedes look like Antonio Banderas. It doesn't mean they are descendants of Spanish court musicians.

    The Guanches were blondish and had no connection to Germanic tribes.

    The Varangians only arrived centuries after the Arab conquests. I’d guess that most modern day Palestinians, Lebanese, Egyptians, and Syrians are mostly descended from the indigenous populace that was there before the Arab conquests. In the Roman days, you would have seen all kinds of complexions and facial features: including blue-eyed blondes, a legacy of Alexander.

    I’m sure there was some degree of intermarriage with the men from the desert, especially within the upper classes, and as the centuries went by, this did have a propagating effect on the actual genetic stew. Probably moreso than in Europe because unlike, say, the Ostrogoths, the local Romans got Arabized, not the other way around. Still, take a look at a guy like Assad: he could easily pass as European, and he’s far from alone in Syrians that could. I’m pretty confident that’s not an accident.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    The ancient Sumerians, who predate both Arabs and Syrians in the region, were blue-eyed. They spent a lot of money on lapis lazuli to get their eye color right in statues of themselves. Can't remember if they were blond too, but I sorta think so. So it's an old, old stock in that region. The whole Near East, Egypt included, used to be a lot whiter than it is now in ancient times, then got a whole new jolt of White blood due to Islam's non-stop obsession, indeed its founding obsession, with kidnaping, raping and enslaving Whites. It's not uncommon to see Syrian nationals with downright Irish facial features.

    Large swathes of all Asia were blond and blue-eyed in near-pre-history, but of course got swept away during the endless mudslides. Same thing will happen soon in the final White holdout regions, thanks to the tireless efforts of our ever-friendly Fellow Americans.

  252. I noticed alot of snark comments going back and forth between some regulars. I think this whole virus thing is starting to grind on us. Remember, it is nice to be nice. Stay safe everyone.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    Shelter in place Mr. Joe. Hope you have a takeout nearby for beef on weck.

    Nobody around central NY knows the recipe, apparently.
  253. As 10 Commandments was on air tonight, on ABC – (Jeopardy was sacrificed) which both scared me and intrigued me at 9 – the movie; I could not help but add to the “flight from white”, more ways than one, with this, from the movie:

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Lagie, Classic Jewish movie for Lent. Today is Palm Sunday. Stay well.
  254. take a look at a guy like Assad: he could easily pass as European

    I think of this the other way around. From what I can see, lots of “Europeans” could easily pass for Middle Easterners.

  255. @Twinkie

    Eh… that seems to describe far more people than just the crazies these days. Or maybe the world is just getting crazier.
     
    That’s empirically true. More people (esp. young people) are diagnosed and treated for mental illness.

    >That’s empirically true. More people (esp. young people) are diagnosed and treated for mental illness.

    And that leads to an interesting question that has been preying on my mind: how much of this is widening and loosening standards on what mental illness actually is vs. a changing world that exacerbates or makes it harder to hide atypical mental chemistry?

    (I’m reasonably certain I would have been considered a somewhat eccentric but mentally normal young man in the 1950s. Certainly not “autistic”: I’m too young to remember this with certainty, but back in the 1990s, near as I can tell, the common image for that was Rain Man. Way more stimuli, far less predictable social scripts and more lying, less toleration for obsessions at the expense of communication skills outside of a couple of sectors of the economy, parental desire to diagnose their kids so they can be misunderstood, special victims instead of accepting personality failings or weaknesses or mediocrity, the fact that HR lady/educrat culture tends to view male personalities uncongenial to them as pathologies these days, off the top of my head… I’m sure they all play a role in the explosion of diagnoses. Not just in the US, though I’d argue that “diagnosis culture” is particularly bad in the US, at least within the upper-middle class.

    I wonder how much ADHD rates would go down if video games disappeared and kids were given more time to run around?)

  256. @syonredux

    So anything darker than a ginger is now “dusty brown?”
     
    Just a young Person of Color, trying to make it in a White Man's world.....


    https://landlordrocknyc.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/tumblr_lxyh26godp1qz84n6o1_500.jpg

    Isn’t that the young Richard Nixon?

    • Replies: @syonredux

    Isn’t that the young Richard Nixon?
     
    Yep.
  257. anonymous[541] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buffalo Joe
    I noticed alot of snark comments going back and forth between some regulars. I think this whole virus thing is starting to grind on us. Remember, it is nice to be nice. Stay safe everyone.

    Shelter in place Mr. Joe. Hope you have a takeout nearby for beef on weck.

    Nobody around central NY knows the recipe, apparently.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    541, a heart felt thank you. New Beef on Weck (Bar Bills) restaurant opened three miles up on Main St. Poured money into a total refurb and now shuttered.
  258. @RSDB
    Danny Thomas was from a Maronite Catholic family.

    The Maronites and other Uniates are Eastern in their rites, but they acknowledge the universal jurisdiction of the Pope, the Bishop of Rome. Thus “Eastern Christian,” while not a complete description of them, is not an inaccurate one. At one time at least, maybe not anymore, it was required to ask and receive permission to transfer from one Rite to another. I suspect that Roman Catholic priests might not be such sticklers for this requirement, for Easterners wanting to come over to the Latin rite, than would be Eastern Rite priests for lay persons wishing to travel in the opposite direction (which some traditionalists have done.)

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    I have been recently divorced. To whom should I apply for permission to transfer a Missionary Rite to an Onan Rite? Might this be something I would have to travel to Rome to accomplish?
    , @Jack D
    As I understand it, in those days, when Maronite Lebanese and Syrians such as Thomas were thin on the ground, they didn't have enough density to form Maronite congregations in America and they gravitated to Roman Catholicism as the next best thing (and married mostly non-Middle Eastern Catholic women - Pauls's father married an Irish-American, Danny Thomas married an Italian-American, etc.). Lebanon and Syria were under French (therefore Catholic) influence and Catholic Church orders opened (French language) schools in those countries so that didn't hurt either.

    Other Eastern Rite churches in America would have been closely associated with a single ethnic group and Maronites would not have felt comfortable in a church where everyone else was a different (single) ethnicity, spoke a different language (and was not loyal to Rome) - Greek or Russian or whatever - at least in a Catholic Church it was an ethnic stew already so they would not stick out as being different.

  259. @Anonymous
    Both DeBakey and Thomas were not White Southerners, though their most important contributions happened in Southern settings - Houston and Memphis respectively. Each man was way ahead of his time in terms of race. Neither man permitted Jim Crow racial mores to dictate how the valuable medical services they provided were dispensed:

    Danny Thomas: https://www.stjude.org/about-st-jude/stories/making-a-difference/pioneer-for-integration.html

    Debakey: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/outlook/article/Dr-Michael-DeBakey-was-more-than-a-legendary-14853617.php

    Jack D is a fraud. Ive been hounding him all weekend.

    Both DeBakey and Thomas were not White Southerners,

    DeBakey was born in Louisiana. He was raised in Louisiana. He went to medical school in Louisiana (Tulane).And he spent the bulk of his professional career in Texas (Baylor College of Medicine). And I’m pretty sure that he was legally classified as White.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_DeBakey

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I know he was born and raised in the South but he was not "of" the South. He was born to people, Lebanese Christian immigrants, who didnt carry traditional Southern prejudices. To risk his social standing in such an environment (1950s South) and insist that hospital facilities treat patients irregardless of race is prima faci evidence of this fact.
  260. @Jonathan Mason
    Isn't that the young Richard Nixon?

    Isn’t that the young Richard Nixon?

    Yep.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Whittier College doesn’t have Nixon to kick a soccer ball around anymore.
  261. @Sgt. Joe Friday
    Let's see, no mention of a wife or kids, hates his dad. A hundred bucks says the author is gay.

    The writing, literally shaking, the helplessness are very feminine.

  262. Anonymous[284] • Disclaimer says:
    @syonredux

    Both DeBakey and Thomas were not White Southerners,
     
    DeBakey was born in Louisiana. He was raised in Louisiana. He went to medical school in Louisiana (Tulane).And he spent the bulk of his professional career in Texas (Baylor College of Medicine). And I'm pretty sure that he was legally classified as White.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_DeBakey

    I know he was born and raised in the South but he was not “of” the South. He was born to people, Lebanese Christian immigrants, who didnt carry traditional Southern prejudices. To risk his social standing in such an environment (1950s South) and insist that hospital facilities treat patients irregardless of race is prima faci evidence of this fact.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    I know he was born and raised in the South but he was not “of” the South. He was born to people, Lebanese Christian immigrants, who didnt carry traditional Southern prejudices. To risk his social standing in such an environment (1950s South) and insist that hospital facilities treat patients irregardless of race is prima faci evidence of this fact.
     
    Nah. It just means that he was a Southern liberal. Plenty of those around:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimk%C3%A9_sisters


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassius_Marcellus_Clay_(politician)


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juliette_Hampton_Morgan

    , @OscarWildeLoveChild
    My family is from Louisiana, and while I understand your point, the same could be applied to Confederate General James Longstreet, South Carolina born, who spent some post-war years in New Orleans, and was eager to normalize the South, by doing things like, leading a black militia to put down an insurrection of the White League.

    Louisiana is unlike anywhere else in the South, and is full of whites like me that are likely mixed with Arab, Iberian, French, Indian, black, etc. Not all, or all in the same degree, but it seems like most. And this is going way back.
  263. @The Alarmist

    ... in 1952, American audiences didn’t have much of a problem with seeing the Lebanese-American Thomas in a movie playing the husband of Doris Day.
     
    Yes, but it was shot in monochrome, so the subtle differences in race wouldn't be so obvious. Neither would having a Lebanese Christian and a German Christian playing a Jewish couple.

    I think the milennia-aged discrimination applied to all is based on shape, not color. If anything, color amelielorates the effect of shape.

  264. @Hibernian
    The Maronites and other Uniates are Eastern in their rites, but they acknowledge the universal jurisdiction of the Pope, the Bishop of Rome. Thus "Eastern Christian," while not a complete description of them, is not an inaccurate one. At one time at least, maybe not anymore, it was required to ask and receive permission to transfer from one Rite to another. I suspect that Roman Catholic priests might not be such sticklers for this requirement, for Easterners wanting to come over to the Latin rite, than would be Eastern Rite priests for lay persons wishing to travel in the opposite direction (which some traditionalists have done.)

    I have been recently divorced. To whom should I apply for permission to transfer a Missionary Rite to an Onan Rite? Might this be something I would have to travel to Rome to accomplish?

    • Replies: @snorlax
    Are you between the ages of 9 and 15? If so your local priest will be happy to help.
  265. @Reg Cæsar
    Anyone else here developing an involuntary coronamullet? Both my beard trimmers konked out, and I've been trimming by hand. Then I advanced to clipping the hair away from eyes and ears. But I can't do the back in the mirror.

    All of a sudden I look like Hall and Oates.

    Anyone else here developing an involuntary coronamullet?

    No, but I’ve started growing a voluntary coranaskullet.
    It’s like a ‘short back and bald’, but you grow a thing out the back. Kinda like a Hare Krishna devotee.

  266. @syonredux

    Isn’t that the young Richard Nixon?
     
    Yep.

    Whittier College doesn’t have Nixon to kick a soccer ball around anymore.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    He played American football and he loved it. He looks pretty cool in that picture.
  267. @Mr McKenna
    Really a beautiful woman, but the stories that got around NY when she was old were so splenetic they'd peel the paint right off your living room walls.

    ETA: Dear God she's still alive.

    When I dated the receptionist at a local spa, Marlo was one of the customers. According to my girlfriend, Ms. Thomas was a nervous scatterbrain and a pain in the ass to schedule.

  268. @Lot
    Whittier College doesn’t have Nixon to kick a soccer ball around anymore.

    He played American football and he loved it. He looks pretty cool in that picture.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    Ever saw Gerald Ford's college photo?
  269. @Reg Cæsar
    Anyone else here developing an involuntary coronamullet? Both my beard trimmers konked out, and I've been trimming by hand. Then I advanced to clipping the hair away from eyes and ears. But I can't do the back in the mirror.

    All of a sudden I look like Hall and Oates.

    If you have a spare face mask, you can use it as a hair net.

  270. @Neil Templeton
    I have been recently divorced. To whom should I apply for permission to transfer a Missionary Rite to an Onan Rite? Might this be something I would have to travel to Rome to accomplish?

    Are you between the ages of 9 and 15? If so your local priest will be happy to help.

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    I ain't, but I'm apprised.
  271. @nebulafox
    The Varangians only arrived centuries after the Arab conquests. I'd guess that most modern day Palestinians, Lebanese, Egyptians, and Syrians are mostly descended from the indigenous populace that was there before the Arab conquests. In the Roman days, you would have seen all kinds of complexions and facial features: including blue-eyed blondes, a legacy of Alexander.

    I'm sure there was some degree of intermarriage with the men from the desert, especially within the upper classes, and as the centuries went by, this did have a propagating effect on the actual genetic stew. Probably moreso than in Europe because unlike, say, the Ostrogoths, the local Romans got Arabized, not the other way around. Still, take a look at a guy like Assad: he could easily pass as European, and he's far from alone in Syrians that could. I'm pretty confident that's not an accident.

    The ancient Sumerians, who predate both Arabs and Syrians in the region, were blue-eyed. They spent a lot of money on lapis lazuli to get their eye color right in statues of themselves. Can’t remember if they were blond too, but I sorta think so. So it’s an old, old stock in that region. The whole Near East, Egypt included, used to be a lot whiter than it is now in ancient times, then got a whole new jolt of White blood due to Islam’s non-stop obsession, indeed its founding obsession, with kidnaping, raping and enslaving Whites. It’s not uncommon to see Syrian nationals with downright Irish facial features.

    Large swathes of all Asia were blond and blue-eyed in near-pre-history, but of course got swept away during the endless mudslides. Same thing will happen soon in the final White holdout regions, thanks to the tireless efforts of our ever-friendly Fellow Americans.

  272. @Reg Cæsar
    Anyone else here developing an involuntary coronamullet? Both my beard trimmers konked out, and I've been trimming by hand. Then I advanced to clipping the hair away from eyes and ears. But I can't do the back in the mirror.

    All of a sudden I look like Hall and Oates.

    All of a sudden I look like Hall and Oates.

    A blond mullet and dark ringlets?

    Same here, by the way—we don’t have a really sharp pair of scissors or trimmer in the house. My hairstyle amuses the PiltdownChildren. They were born too late to remember the brief era, back in the 1970s and early 1980s, when many adult men didn’t have the closed-cropped haircuts that are, now, again the norm.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    the closed-cropped haircuts that are, now, again the norm.

     

    Actually, we have reached the other end of the pendulum's swing:

    Adam Grant, professor at Wharton:


    https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/960x0/https%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Fdanschawbel%2Ffiles%2F2016%2F01%2Fadamgrant-1200x800.jpg

    Matt Parker, mathematician, author, and video star:


    http://geekchocolate.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/MattParkerHumblePism.jpg

    Stanley Tucci, Hollywood polymath:


    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/[email protected]@._V1_UY317_CR9,0,214,317_AL_.jpg

    The Rock, famous for something:


    https://www.buro247.sg/thumb/950x700/local/images/buro/galleries/2019/03/celebrities-who-look-good-bald-buro247-dwaynejohnson.jpg

  273. @snorlax
    Are you between the ages of 9 and 15? If so your local priest will be happy to help.

    I ain’t, but I’m apprised.

  274. When’s he moving back to Egypt?

    • Replies: @Hugo Silva
    Never, by rejecting whiteness he's showing how assimilated he is to the dominant trend of modern American culture!
  275. @SFG
    Someone who didn't get along with him. Family drama is a big thing--look at Star Wars. Space Western, yeah, but it's also the story of a boy who is very angry at his father.

    I always wondered if the negative portrayal of fathers in fiction (even pre-feminism) had to do with the fact that writing usually doesn't pay (as with the arts in general), so most dads would discourage their sons from doing it. Guys close to their dads who go into the family business in, say, lumber don't write novels. There was the Bach family, but classical music doesn't have people in it--it's highly organized sound.

    The only counterexamples I can think of off the top of my head would be Joe Hill (son of Stephen King) and Max Brooks (son of Mel Brooks). How do dads come off in their books?

    Luke angry with Darth Vader? Their relationship wasn’t pre-planned by Lucas, and Luke is sad about his father for much of #3.

  276. @William Badwhite
    I like your hot dogs

    https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/747fed2a-9929-467d-94a7-bfae2a5f7240_1.415016cdafcc14e9279900c2b0009310.jpeg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF

    I prefer Boar’s Head. Hebrew National taste phony.

  277. @anon
    BTW I’ve changed my handle.

    Before you were someone Henry Ford was concerned about, now you're a hot dog?
    Isn't that rather a demotion?

    My moment in the sun came when unz.com featured that book. (Soon to be replaced by Mein Kampf IIRC.)

    Hebrew National seems, I dunno, just more virile.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    I believe the order went TIJ, then a Holocaust denial tract called something like "The Greatest Hoax of the 20th Century," and finally Mein Kampf.

    Hebrew National seems, I dunno, just more virile.
     
    More phallic, anyhow.

    https://st.depositphotos.com/2923645/3588/i/950/depositphotos_35880033-stock-photo-woman-eating-a-hotdog.jpg
    , @nebulafox
    *Sigh*... why? For the love of God, why? Mein Kampf? Really? Might as well migrate to pander to all the losers over at Stormfront.

    Mein Kampf isn't even a good book: it's the spattered ramblings of a pseudo-intellectual glorified terrorist who'd just had his coup attempt crushed. Hitler himself said he wouldn't have released it in hindsight. If you really want to know what Hitler thought off the record, why not check out the Table Talk: the reflections of a mature fifty-something politician who'd expanded enormously on his education in the intervening decades?

  278. @Hebrew National
    My moment in the sun came when unz.com featured that book. (Soon to be replaced by Mein Kampf IIRC.)

    Hebrew National seems, I dunno, just more virile.

    I believe the order went TIJ, then a Holocaust denial tract called something like “The Greatest Hoax of the 20th Century,” and finally Mein Kampf.

    Hebrew National seems, I dunno, just more virile.

    More phallic, anyhow.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Somebody should have fired that photographer. The hot dog was supposed to be black.

    Eyes on the prize, people! Stay on narrative!
  279. @Anonymous
    I know he was born and raised in the South but he was not "of" the South. He was born to people, Lebanese Christian immigrants, who didnt carry traditional Southern prejudices. To risk his social standing in such an environment (1950s South) and insist that hospital facilities treat patients irregardless of race is prima faci evidence of this fact.

    I know he was born and raised in the South but he was not “of” the South. He was born to people, Lebanese Christian immigrants, who didnt carry traditional Southern prejudices. To risk his social standing in such an environment (1950s South) and insist that hospital facilities treat patients irregardless of race is prima faci evidence of this fact.

    Nah. It just means that he was a Southern liberal. Plenty of those around:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimk%C3%A9_sisters

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassius_Marcellus_Clay_(politician)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juliette_Hampton_Morgan

  280. @Hebrew National
    This guy is a bore. As Egyptian-Americans looking to reconnect with their roots go, I much prefer Rami Youssef.

    https://youtu.be/I9R6vtcD09I

    Maybe Rami is more normal because he's Egyptian on both sides. Less angst and confusion about who he is.

    BTW I've changed my handle. My old handle was "International Jew". I hope that's ok...

    BTW I’ve changed my handle. My old handle was “International Jew”. I hope that’s ok…

    Welcoming the post-transition Hebrew National is a good excuse to repeat his deadpan line about a Japanese research paper someone had mentioned:

    Well documented. Japanese peer reviewed paper about bathroom contamination.

    Peers reviewing a paper about peeing strikes me as a conflict of interest.

    • Replies: @Hebrew National
    Good to see someone enjoyed my pun there.

    post-transition Hebrew National
     
    I should hope my new handle leaves no ambiguity as to my gender identity!
  281. @Hebrew National
    My moment in the sun came when unz.com featured that book. (Soon to be replaced by Mein Kampf IIRC.)

    Hebrew National seems, I dunno, just more virile.

    *Sigh*… why? For the love of God, why? Mein Kampf? Really? Might as well migrate to pander to all the losers over at Stormfront.

    Mein Kampf isn’t even a good book: it’s the spattered ramblings of a pseudo-intellectual glorified terrorist who’d just had his coup attempt crushed. Hitler himself said he wouldn’t have released it in hindsight. If you really want to know what Hitler thought off the record, why not check out the Table Talk: the reflections of a mature fifty-something politician who’d expanded enormously on his education in the intervening decades?

  282. @Buzz Mohawk
    He played American football and he loved it. He looks pretty cool in that picture.

    Ever saw Gerald Ford’s college photo?

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    https://www.toledoblade.com/image/2003/11/21/1140x_a10-7_cTC/FORD-FOOTBALL.jpg
    , @Buzz Mohawk

    Ever saw Gerald Ford’s college photo?
     
    Yes, I have. I even had a friend whose father was a Secret Service agent for Ford in Vail.

    I was only giving poor Dick some credit. He was tough, loved the game, and never gave up, even though he was a second-stringer. I am something of a revisionist about Nixon.

    In that picture, he looks a lot like my dear cousin from California.

  283. @Eagle Eye

    BTW I’ve changed my handle. My old handle was “International Jew”. I hope that’s ok…
     
    Welcoming the post-transition Hebrew National is a good excuse to repeat his deadpan line about a Japanese research paper someone had mentioned:


    Well documented. Japanese peer reviewed paper about bathroom contamination.
     
    Peers reviewing a paper about peeing strikes me as a conflict of interest.

     

    Good to see someone enjoyed my pun there.

    post-transition Hebrew National

    I should hope my new handle leaves no ambiguity as to my gender identity!

  284. @Lagertha
    I said, "New Yorkers," knowing, that they have left NYC and infested our rural towns outside of NYC, even, 500 miles away. Fairfield County, Litchfield County and The Berkshires, The Cape (all New England) and the Jersey Shore, are hot spots for the virus because these infected and colossally selfish people decided to go to their 2nd or 3rd homes (and rent homes! for God's sake), and waltzed into our stores spreading the infection. The vanity of urban people, especially coastal ones, is just disgusting.

    I get that. But I decamped my family to East Quogue, my sister’s second home. She’s in Houston. My niece had been out here for a couple of weeks but left for Houston 2 weeks ago. I can’t afford a second home. I rent my first one (although I own a 1 br in outer Brooklyn where my mother in law stays).

    Look at it from my perspective. I should stay in NYC? It’s selfish? Maybe. I guess preserving your life and family’s life is selfish by definition. We wear masks when we go to the store out here. We alternate days. Some clerks at grocery stores out here wear masks. Some don’t.

    I hear that. Some that live here resent the people who own second homes coming here and taxing resources off season. But what the heck, you own property, use it. I don’t think they mind the business in summer.

    It’s a low key place, East Quogue. Part of South Hampton but not very Hamptony.

  285. @Alden
    The father’s shade of White is known as ivory. He might have done this to be hired at Lewis and Clark. White instructors are hired on the interview nowadays. They must express hatred of Whites and explain how their lesson plans will teach hatred of Whites including real science and even math. Maybe this scumbag is up for tenure or a promotion.

    Alden, this from my local Podunk Tech’s job posting for a tenure track assistant professorship in electrical engineering:

    “Submit a Diversity Statement under “Other Document 1” in which you describe your experiences, current interests or activities, and/or future goals that promote a climate that values diversity and inclusion in one or more areas of scholarship, instruction and outreach.”

    • Replies: @Jack D
    I think this is pretty standard now. It's all good from the Leftist POV. Legally they can't discriminate on the basis of race but considering candidates on the basis of "what they have done to help diversity" is based on action, not race, so it's legal. It just so happens that Wise Latinas tend to gravitate more toward community outreach toward the Latinx community than white guys do. They also tend to have less distinguished academic records so considering this helps to level the playing field. Otherwise the white guy is going to have better credentials and is going to win.

    2nd, to the extent that they still have to hire or consider white people at all, this way they can exclude deplorables who do not have a long record of having drunk the Kool-Aid and dedicated their careers to "promoting diversity". You've focused all of your efforts on advancing electrical engineering - forget about it.

    This is how our professoriate is being increasingly filled with AA hires and politicized idiots who are not even good at what they do. Even in the Soviet Union they valued competence over party loyalty in academia in non-political fields such as EE and math. There was a sort of implicit pact that as long as you stayed away from politics they would leave you alone to study your equations. They knew that they were not going to beat the West in science with a bunch of political hacks. We are on a path toward being worse than the Soviet Union.

  286. @syonredux

    Near as I can tell, Americans of Middle Eastern extraction were just lumped in as white back in his father’s day.
     
    Michael DeBakey grew up in the Jim Crow South, and people thought that he was White:

    Michael Ellis DeBakey (born Michel Dabaghi; September 7, 1908 – July 11, 2008) was a Lebanese-American cardiac surgeon and vascular surgeon, scientist and medical educator who became the chancellor emeritus of Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, Texas, director of the Methodist DeBakey Heart & Vascular Center, and senior attending surgeon at Methodist Hospital in Houston, with a career spanning 75 years.
     

    Born to Lebanese Christian immigrants, DeBakey was inspired to pursue a career in medicine by the physicians that he had met at his father's drug store, and he simultaneously learned sewing skills from his mother. He subsequently attended Tulane University for his premedical course and Tulane University School of Medicine to study medicine. At Tulane, he developed a version of the roller pump, which he initially used to transfuse blood directly from person to person and which later became a component of the heart–lung machine. Following early surgical training at Charity Hospital, DeBakey was encouraged to complete his surgical fellowships in Europe, before returning to Tulane University in 1937. During the Second World War, he helped develop the Mobile Army Surgical Hospital (MASH) units and later helped establish the Veterans Administration Medical Center Research System.
     

    DeBakey's surgical innovations included coronary bypass operations, carotid endarterectomy, artificial hearts and ventricular assist devices. He used polyethylene terephthalate (Dacron) grafts to replace or repair blood vessels and pioneered surgical repairs of aortic aneurysms, an operation he himself underwent at the age of 97. DeBakey received a number of awards, including the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the National Medal of Science, and the Congressional Gold Medal. In addition, a number of institutions bear his name.
     

    Michael DeBakey was born as Michel Dabaghi[1] in Lake Charles, Louisiana on September 7, 1908, to Shaker Morris and Raheeja Dabaghi. The name was later anglicized to DeBakey.[2][3] His parents were Lebanese Christian immigrants, spoke French and fled oppression from the Ottomans to settle in Cajun Country where French was spoken.[4]

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_DeBakey



    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-g4V8A2PxgSE/UPcN04XfAEI/AAAAAAAAAXY/1GO38CU95Os/s1600/DeBakey_00003126.jpg

    Michael DeBakey grew up in the Jim Crow South, and people thought that he was White:

    I remember reading about Dr. DeBakey in Life magazine when I was a kid. He had a huge rivalry with Dr. Denton Cooley, his former colleague and a heart surgeon in another major hospital in Houston. They were celebrity heart surgeons in the late 1960s, when the then relatively new surgical specialty of open heart surgery, made possible by the heart-lung machine, was viewed with awe by the general public (as it should be, today.)

    Cooley was a Texan, but both doctors were written up in the press as Texans with big egos, iirc. There was speculation about which one of the two would be the first to do a heart transplant, but Dr. Christiaan Barnard of Cape Town, South Africa pipped them to the post in 1967.

    DeBakey lived to the age of 99, after having undergone heart surgery at 97. Cooley lived to be 96.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/27/health/27docs.html

    • Replies: @Jack D
    It's not uncommon for men of accomplishment like this to have big egos and hate their rivals. The more similar they are to their rival, the more they hate him. Albert Sabin (real name Abram Sperstejn - in those days there was a flight TOWARD white) hated Salk's guts and talked shit about his vaccine at every opportunity despite their similar backgrounds. These are guys who are driven to be #1 so naturally anyone who threatens to displace them from their #1 spot is not greeted with love and collegiality.

    If I recall correctly, DeBakey and Cooley reconciled with each other at the very end of their lives. This is also not uncommon. Once they are retired from the race and their legacy is secure, the other guy is no longer a rival and they realize how much they always had in common and had no reason to be enemies.

    But I don't think that Sabin and Salk EVER reconciled. Jews hold grudges - we'e still mad at the Pharaoh after 3,000 years.

  287. @Hebrew National
    This guy is a bore. As Egyptian-Americans looking to reconnect with their roots go, I much prefer Rami Youssef.

    https://youtu.be/I9R6vtcD09I

    Maybe Rami is more normal because he's Egyptian on both sides. Less angst and confusion about who he is.

    BTW I've changed my handle. My old handle was "International Jew". I hope that's ok...

    BTW I’ve changed my handle. My old handle was “International Jew”. I hope that’s ok…

    Did you consider “International Hebrew?” The pun would still have been preserved, and it would have linked you to the old name.

    Anyway, the new name makes me wish we could all gather outside and eat hot dogs. I hope that we can, by July 4th.

    • Replies: @black sea
    I would recommend "Hebrew Among You," but I think you'd be infringing on another guy's turf.
  288. @PiltdownMan

    BTW I’ve changed my handle. My old handle was “International Jew”. I hope that’s ok…
     
    Did you consider "International Hebrew?" The pun would still have been preserved, and it would have linked you to the old name.

    Anyway, the new name makes me wish we could all gather outside and eat hot dogs. I hope that we can, by July 4th.

    I would recommend “Hebrew Among You,” but I think you’d be infringing on another guy’s turf.

  289. @snorlax
    I believe the order went TIJ, then a Holocaust denial tract called something like "The Greatest Hoax of the 20th Century," and finally Mein Kampf.

    Hebrew National seems, I dunno, just more virile.
     
    More phallic, anyhow.

    https://st.depositphotos.com/2923645/3588/i/950/depositphotos_35880033-stock-photo-woman-eating-a-hotdog.jpg

    Somebody should have fired that photographer. The hot dog was supposed to be black.

    Eyes on the prize, people! Stay on narrative!

  290. @nebulafox
    Ever saw Gerald Ford's college photo?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    I don't see a quarterback. It looks like he's ready to deal with the leadership of the Democrat Pary.
    , @S. Anonyia
    Gerald Ford. Nixon was a much better looking young man (looked cleverer too)
    , @MBlanc46
    Watch your head!
  291. @Sol
    When's he moving back to Egypt?

    Never, by rejecting whiteness he’s showing how assimilated he is to the dominant trend of modern American culture!

  292. @PiltdownMan
    https://www.toledoblade.com/image/2003/11/21/1140x_a10-7_cTC/FORD-FOOTBALL.jpg

    I don’t see a quarterback. It looks like he’s ready to deal with the leadership of the Democrat Pary.

  293. This is ultimately a colonial ideology: Whereas Toutonghi the father believed that the key to succeeding in his adopted homeland involved assimilating to its culture (including identifying with its majority racial group), Toutonghi the son saw the key to success in distancing himself from the historical population of the United States. Hence he converts from Christianity to Islam, and dissociates with white people. This is his strategy for solidifying his place in the elite—emphasize that he is apart from the historical people of the United States.

    Of course, the difference between this and traditional colonialism is that, in traditional colonialism, the ruling foreign elite came from the same country. Now the elite is a weird, unstable coalition of a bunch of different foreigners. Their only commonality is their shared animus towards the historical American population.

    One wonders how long this will go one before the natives rebel.

    • Replies: @Hugo Silva
    Unless the natives repudiate their universalist ideology and adopt an ethnic particularist world view I don't see it ever ending. Like in Gaul after the frankish conquest the natives adopted the polítical identity of the conquerors, if the present trends continue in Future America everyone will claim to be a member of some group formerly oppressed by the WASPs, and the overthrow of the WASPs will replace the conquest of the West as the countries founding myth, with the jews taking the place of the pioneers and WASPs the place of the Indians.
  294. @Anonymous
    I know he was born and raised in the South but he was not "of" the South. He was born to people, Lebanese Christian immigrants, who didnt carry traditional Southern prejudices. To risk his social standing in such an environment (1950s South) and insist that hospital facilities treat patients irregardless of race is prima faci evidence of this fact.

    My family is from Louisiana, and while I understand your point, the same could be applied to Confederate General James Longstreet, South Carolina born, who spent some post-war years in New Orleans, and was eager to normalize the South, by doing things like, leading a black militia to put down an insurrection of the White League.

    Louisiana is unlike anywhere else in the South, and is full of whites like me that are likely mixed with Arab, Iberian, French, Indian, black, etc. Not all, or all in the same degree, but it seems like most. And this is going way back.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Thanks nice point.
  295. @Hibernian
    The Maronites and other Uniates are Eastern in their rites, but they acknowledge the universal jurisdiction of the Pope, the Bishop of Rome. Thus "Eastern Christian," while not a complete description of them, is not an inaccurate one. At one time at least, maybe not anymore, it was required to ask and receive permission to transfer from one Rite to another. I suspect that Roman Catholic priests might not be such sticklers for this requirement, for Easterners wanting to come over to the Latin rite, than would be Eastern Rite priests for lay persons wishing to travel in the opposite direction (which some traditionalists have done.)

    As I understand it, in those days, when Maronite Lebanese and Syrians such as Thomas were thin on the ground, they didn’t have enough density to form Maronite congregations in America and they gravitated to Roman Catholicism as the next best thing (and married mostly non-Middle Eastern Catholic women – Pauls’s father married an Irish-American, Danny Thomas married an Italian-American, etc.). Lebanon and Syria were under French (therefore Catholic) influence and Catholic Church orders opened (French language) schools in those countries so that didn’t hurt either.

    Other Eastern Rite churches in America would have been closely associated with a single ethnic group and Maronites would not have felt comfortable in a church where everyone else was a different (single) ethnicity, spoke a different language (and was not loyal to Rome) – Greek or Russian or whatever – at least in a Catholic Church it was an ethnic stew already so they would not stick out as being different.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    There are a lot of ethnic divisions among Uniates (loosely tied to the Pope) and among the Orthodox (rejecting the Pope, although very "High Church" liturgically and almost as hierarchical as Roman Catholics.) The Maronites are Uniates, and, in the online Mass I partook of this morning, the priest mentioned a local Maronite church. (This was in St. Louis.) I later checked on the Internet and found that this church, St. Raymond's Maronite Cathedral, had been around 100 years. I also found that Maronite churches were thin on the ground in and around St. Louis, which I already knew they were in and around Chicago.
  296. @Jake
    That conversion was the call of cultural and racial Semitism.

    This is a religious war. It is about Christ and Christendom on the one side assailed by by all things anti-Christ, which always are spearheaded by things Semitic: Jewish and Islamic/Arabic.

    Well, Syria was a hotbed of Christianity for centuries. It’s hard to conceive a religion having a worst impact on society, culture, science, history and civilisation than Islam.
    The French and the British could have crushed Islam for good in the last century, but instead went native, or ecumenical, that is masonic, on them.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    British established church Anglicanism had a lot in common with secularized post-1789 French Catholicism.
    , @nebulafox
    The word "Christian" was coined in Antioch. It isn't much of a stretch to say that Syria was where Christianity, as a distinct, new religion was truly born.

    >It’s hard to conceive a religion having a worst impact on society, culture, science, history and civilisation than Islam.

    I get the sentiment when it comes to the Middle East, but I wouldn't go that far when speaking on global terms: not everybody was Rome or Persia. India is an example where Islam was a relative but genuine improvement over native traditions.

    Moreover, I think looking for the reasons why the Islamic World has issues with religious extremism today in the 7th Century is missing the forests for the trees: like any religion, it has mutated and evolved over the centuries. It is undeniable that most of the Islamic World today is characterized by religious intolerance, but I think the historical evidence suggests that this more to do with historical contingencies than theology. The Arabs who were behind the Rashidun conquests of the 7th Century themselves didn't identify as "Muslims", in the modern sense of the word: it was only well after the conquests that it would become a distinct religion.

    >The French and the British could have crushed Islam for good in the last century, but instead went native, or ecumenical, that is masonic, on them.

    The colonial powers of Europe, despite being explicitly Christian, were intelligent enough to let Muslims keep their religious traditions without interference, and earned the loyalty of many of their subjects to the point of them fighting in wars for them. Or perhaps that's part of it: as people who still believed in God, the Europeans could still semi-get how the Muslim World thought as recently as 1900.

    I think that's part of the root issue: elites in Europe and the US are so immersed now in a postmodern, secular thought-world that they have a very difficult time even understanding how people outside that thought bubble operate. And unlike Christianity, the ideology of today's Western elites is something that is never going to vaguely seem coopererable to a pious Muslim.

    As someone who has been on both sides of this divide, I've seen this in action for myself. On the rare occasion that Western progressives actually interact with real, believing Muslims, at best, they talk completely past each other. The powers-that-be in the West fetishize Islam not so much as a faith so much as a symbol of the brown people that they implicitly view as good children needing their protection, as a way to bludgeon and punish the legacy white, Christian culture and BadWhites that they despise. The irony here is that this is a notion that most Muslims would find deeply offensive: like Christianity, Islam is supposed to be an explicitly universal, egalitarian faith that doesn't care about race.

  297. @PiltdownMan

    Michael DeBakey grew up in the Jim Crow South, and people thought that he was White:
     
    I remember reading about Dr. DeBakey in Life magazine when I was a kid. He had a huge rivalry with Dr. Denton Cooley, his former colleague and a heart surgeon in another major hospital in Houston. They were celebrity heart surgeons in the late 1960s, when the then relatively new surgical specialty of open heart surgery, made possible by the heart-lung machine, was viewed with awe by the general public (as it should be, today.)

    Cooley was a Texan, but both doctors were written up in the press as Texans with big egos, iirc. There was speculation about which one of the two would be the first to do a heart transplant, but Dr. Christiaan Barnard of Cape Town, South Africa pipped them to the post in 1967.

    DeBakey lived to the age of 99, after having undergone heart surgery at 97. Cooley lived to be 96.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/27/health/27docs.html

    https://i.imgur.com/tGwiLyx.jpg

    It’s not uncommon for men of accomplishment like this to have big egos and hate their rivals. The more similar they are to their rival, the more they hate him. Albert Sabin (real name Abram Sperstejn – in those days there was a flight TOWARD white) hated Salk’s guts and talked shit about his vaccine at every opportunity despite their similar backgrounds. These are guys who are driven to be #1 so naturally anyone who threatens to displace them from their #1 spot is not greeted with love and collegiality.

    If I recall correctly, DeBakey and Cooley reconciled with each other at the very end of their lives. This is also not uncommon. Once they are retired from the race and their legacy is secure, the other guy is no longer a rival and they realize how much they always had in common and had no reason to be enemies.

    But I don’t think that Sabin and Salk EVER reconciled. Jews hold grudges – we’e still mad at the Pharaoh after 3,000 years.

  298. @anonymous
    Shelter in place Mr. Joe. Hope you have a takeout nearby for beef on weck.

    Nobody around central NY knows the recipe, apparently.

    541, a heart felt thank you. New Beef on Weck (Bar Bills) restaurant opened three miles up on Main St. Poured money into a total refurb and now shuttered.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    I saw people eating Beef on Weck at the Pok-A-Dot in Batavia when we stopped there for lunch one time. It looked terrible.

    I had a grilled cheese sandwich where the cook slathered the bread with oil before cooking it. The sandwich was so greasy I could hardly eat it. I forget what my daughter had but she hated it too and we've never been back.
  299. @Lagertha
    As 10 Commandments was on air tonight, on ABC - (Jeopardy was sacrificed) which both scared me and intrigued me at 9 - the movie; I could not help but add to the "flight from white", more ways than one, with this, from the movie:

    https://youtu.be/wglhBLDgPco

    Lagie, Classic Jewish movie for Lent. Today is Palm Sunday. Stay well.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    Thanks, Joe...but it was more of what she said about her skin not being as white ("white as milk") as the Egyptian Queen's - play the clip.
  300. @JackOH
    Alden, this from my local Podunk Tech's job posting for a tenure track assistant professorship in electrical engineering:

    "Submit a Diversity Statement under “Other Document 1” in which you describe your experiences, current interests or activities, and/or future goals that promote a climate that values diversity and inclusion in one or more areas of scholarship, instruction and outreach."

    I think this is pretty standard now. It’s all good from the Leftist POV. Legally they can’t discriminate on the basis of race but considering candidates on the basis of “what they have done to help diversity” is based on action, not race, so it’s legal. It just so happens that Wise Latinas tend to gravitate more toward community outreach toward the Latinx community than white guys do. They also tend to have less distinguished academic records so considering this helps to level the playing field. Otherwise the white guy is going to have better credentials and is going to win.

    2nd, to the extent that they still have to hire or consider white people at all, this way they can exclude deplorables who do not have a long record of having drunk the Kool-Aid and dedicated their careers to “promoting diversity”. You’ve focused all of your efforts on advancing electrical engineering – forget about it.

    This is how our professoriate is being increasingly filled with AA hires and politicized idiots who are not even good at what they do. Even in the Soviet Union they valued competence over party loyalty in academia in non-political fields such as EE and math. There was a sort of implicit pact that as long as you stayed away from politics they would leave you alone to study your equations. They knew that they were not going to beat the West in science with a bunch of political hacks. We are on a path toward being worse than the Soviet Union.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Jack D

    Here we go again - Another one of his screeds filled with all kinds of exaggerations. I have a Masters Degree from a Top 10 Engineering University. Due to the nature of my work, I am quite familiar with the faculties of such departments at universities across the United States . There is no Top 50 Engineering faculty (ME,CE,EE,CS) filled with "AA hires" and politicized idiots. I don't agree with the diversity signaling that JackOh's post describes but there are very few departments that have more than 1 or 2 tenured NAMS on their faculty. In fact, there are several HBCU STEM faculties that are majority foreign non-NAM.

    https://www.pvamu.edu/engineering/departments/cs/faculty-and-staff/

    Lol - I've been on Jack's ass all weekend.
    , @JerseyJeffersonian
    Well, I think that the trajectory is directed toward Ukraine-level politically dictated idiocy. Don't forget to jump if you are not a white person, otherwise how will we know?
    , @Anonymous
    Yes Stalin got rid of his best generals and replaced them with party loyalists who knew nothing about war and the result was the disasters of 1941-2. The Russians learned in the worst way possible that competence is more important than political correctness. The US is setting itself up for a similar disaster.
  301. @Reg Cæsar

    Also he doesn’t live in the “hood” because really and truly, Portlandia doesn’t have one. It’s too white for that .
     
    Portland has few blacks, but there is a small cluster that has been in the city for generations. They are being gentrified out by arrogant white SJWs (pardon the redundancies) and other hipsters.

    W Kamau Bell interviewed both sides on his United Shades of America. It's hard not to side with the blacks. It's not like they invaded and pushed out Henry and Ribsy and Beezus and Ramona.* Hipsters pushed them out, too.


    https://www.cnn.com/2016/05/27/opinions/w-kamau-bell-united-shades-portland/index.html

    Bell gives wise travel advice in the above:

    So I have a thing I do before I visit any place in this country. It's actually two things, but I always do them in rapid succession. First, I look the city up on Wikipedia. I do this to check out the racial demographics of where I'm going, and also just to see if anything bad enough has ever happened in the city to justify its own section on Wikipedia. Trust me when I tell you that you want to avoid any city with a controversy section on its page.
     
    *Speaking of Klickitat Street, Beverly Cleary turns 104 on Easter. Has she guested on The Simpsons yet? Mayor Quimby must be related to Ramona. Get the widow on the set!
  302. @Achmed E. Newman
    Hey, Steve, still up? WTF?

    If you still are, I'm bringing this guy up since you like celebrities: Kasey Kasem, of American Top 40 fame, was born in Detroit, but of Lebanese Druze background. Per Wiki just now, his parents insisted on him not speaking any Arabic. They were trying to turn out an assimilated anti-Toutonghi, and back then, it was a lot easier to be successful at that.

    You've gotta remember too, but if you didn't follow People magazine or what-have-you, you would have no idea what a lot of people on the radio looked like. I had no idea till decades later that this guy wasn't simply Casey Kasem, as American as me. Well, he was, I guess.

    Speaking of this radio thing, we had a 1 dollar bet about a local guy who would give some short farm report daily on whether he was black or white. He had this old-man croaky kind of voice, so I could imagine him either way. We called up the DJ at the station. I forget now who won the buck, or whether he was white or black!

    Along with Scooby Doo and Top 40, the multi-talented Kasem flashed his dramatic chops — as an appliance-store salesman in deep with the mob — in Steal Now Pay Later, a fine 1974 Hawaii 5-0. Sleazy Ray Danton and icy Laraine Stephens were the heavies.

    Great closing scene, and the 1974 version of a Best Buy-type store is a riot.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Thank you, Mr. Fact! I forgot how good a show that was. "Oh, and here's a present for your cell". Actually taping a guy with these retail Transonic recorders was a really cool thing and plot twist. Oh, and not a minority in sight but Chin Ho.
  303. Anonymous[284] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    I think this is pretty standard now. It's all good from the Leftist POV. Legally they can't discriminate on the basis of race but considering candidates on the basis of "what they have done to help diversity" is based on action, not race, so it's legal. It just so happens that Wise Latinas tend to gravitate more toward community outreach toward the Latinx community than white guys do. They also tend to have less distinguished academic records so considering this helps to level the playing field. Otherwise the white guy is going to have better credentials and is going to win.

    2nd, to the extent that they still have to hire or consider white people at all, this way they can exclude deplorables who do not have a long record of having drunk the Kool-Aid and dedicated their careers to "promoting diversity". You've focused all of your efforts on advancing electrical engineering - forget about it.

    This is how our professoriate is being increasingly filled with AA hires and politicized idiots who are not even good at what they do. Even in the Soviet Union they valued competence over party loyalty in academia in non-political fields such as EE and math. There was a sort of implicit pact that as long as you stayed away from politics they would leave you alone to study your equations. They knew that they were not going to beat the West in science with a bunch of political hacks. We are on a path toward being worse than the Soviet Union.

    Jack D

    Here we go again – Another one of his screeds filled with all kinds of exaggerations. I have a Masters Degree from a Top 10 Engineering University. Due to the nature of my work, I am quite familiar with the faculties of such departments at universities across the United States . There is no Top 50 Engineering faculty (ME,CE,EE,CS) filled with “AA hires” and politicized idiots. I don’t agree with the diversity signaling that JackOh’s post describes but there are very few departments that have more than 1 or 2 tenured NAMS on their faculty. In fact, there are several HBCU STEM faculties that are majority foreign non-NAM.

    https://www.pvamu.edu/engineering/departments/cs/faculty-and-staff/

    Lol – I’ve been on Jack’s ass all weekend.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    You have to look at new hires, not existing faculty. The existing mostly white faculty is the PROBLEM. The only way you can get the faculty to mirror the population (which is the goal) is to make virtually all of your future hires minority until you hit your number. (Lots of luck if you are a white male starting an academic career nowadays). But white applicants tend to be better qualified in their fields so you need to put your thumb on the scale for minorities (she's less qualified but she did more minority "outreach") or else you will never get there.
    , @JackOH
    A284, my first thought on seeing that requirement for a diversity statement was something like: "How is a good-hearted and job-hungry straight White male supposed to interpret that requirement?"

    Thirty percent of the EE faculty are of Asian and Mideast heritage or birth. No women. Not sure if there are any Blacks.

    Is that diversity statement just boilerplate, so that mouthing a few conventional pieties will get you by? Or will you get hardballed?

    (I'm a non-prof, but a close observer of my local Podunk Tech.)

    Thanks for your comment.
  304. @PiltdownMan
    https://www.toledoblade.com/image/2003/11/21/1140x_a10-7_cTC/FORD-FOOTBALL.jpg

    Gerald Ford. Nixon was a much better looking young man (looked cleverer too)

  305. @Jack D
    I think this is pretty standard now. It's all good from the Leftist POV. Legally they can't discriminate on the basis of race but considering candidates on the basis of "what they have done to help diversity" is based on action, not race, so it's legal. It just so happens that Wise Latinas tend to gravitate more toward community outreach toward the Latinx community than white guys do. They also tend to have less distinguished academic records so considering this helps to level the playing field. Otherwise the white guy is going to have better credentials and is going to win.

    2nd, to the extent that they still have to hire or consider white people at all, this way they can exclude deplorables who do not have a long record of having drunk the Kool-Aid and dedicated their careers to "promoting diversity". You've focused all of your efforts on advancing electrical engineering - forget about it.

    This is how our professoriate is being increasingly filled with AA hires and politicized idiots who are not even good at what they do. Even in the Soviet Union they valued competence over party loyalty in academia in non-political fields such as EE and math. There was a sort of implicit pact that as long as you stayed away from politics they would leave you alone to study your equations. They knew that they were not going to beat the West in science with a bunch of political hacks. We are on a path toward being worse than the Soviet Union.

    Well, I think that the trajectory is directed toward Ukraine-level politically dictated idiocy. Don’t forget to jump if you are not a white person, otherwise how will we know?

  306. @PiltdownMan

    All of a sudden I look like Hall and Oates.
     
    A blond mullet and dark ringlets?

    Same here, by the way—we don't have a really sharp pair of scissors or trimmer in the house. My hairstyle amuses the PiltdownChildren. They were born too late to remember the brief era, back in the 1970s and early 1980s, when many adult men didn't have the closed-cropped haircuts that are, now, again the norm.

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NGAG_H_eMMU/URlUDANUoII/AAAAAAAAISg/f7cLynpHiQk/w1200-h630-p-k-nu/Plaidorama5.jpg

    the closed-cropped haircuts that are, now, again the norm.

    Actually, we have reached the other end of the pendulum’s swing:

    Adam Grant, professor at Wharton:


    Matt Parker, mathematician, author, and video star:


    Stanley Tucci, Hollywood polymath:


    The Rock, famous for something:

  307. @syonredux

    Joseph attended Seattle U. When you combine “university” with a city name in this country, about half the time it’s a Jesuit institution, or at least Catholic. (Dayton, Dallas, and San Diego are examples of the latter.)

    Naming a university for its city is more of a European thing– Americans prefer states.
     
    There are notable exceptions, of course:

    Boston University

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_University

    New York University

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_University

    Princeton University

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princeton_University

    There are notable exceptions, of course:

    Those are all private institutions, Protestant in origin. So is Denver. U of Miami is private. (Miami U is not, but is not named after its city.)

    I can’t think of too many public institutions named [city] Universityor U. of [city]– Toledo, Cincinnati… Pitt has only been public since 1966.

  308. @nebulafox
    Ever saw Gerald Ford's college photo?

    Ever saw Gerald Ford’s college photo?

    Yes, I have. I even had a friend whose father was a Secret Service agent for Ford in Vail.

    I was only giving poor Dick some credit. He was tough, loved the game, and never gave up, even though he was a second-stringer. I am something of a revisionist about Nixon.

    In that picture, he looks a lot like my dear cousin from California.

    • Replies: @Corn
    “Yes, I have. I even had a friend whose father was a Secret Service agent for Ford in Vail.”

    Did this fellow have a high or low opinion of ol’ Jerry?
  309. It is vitally important for white interests to have a MENA category on the US Census. We need to know how many real white Europeans live in the USA. The “white” percentage is being skewed upward by the huge number of Middle Eastern people, people who are genetically and culturally distinct from European whites.

    An artificially high “white” population in official statistics gives whites a false sense of security. It also exaggerates the percentage of elites who are “white,” helping to feed anti-white narratives designed to decrease the white representation among elites even more.

    If MENA people are consistently treated as a separate category, the true make up of the elite will become apparent to all. The Supreme Court is 1/3 MENA and less than half European white. When MENA people are counted, many elite institutions will be seen by all as not being controlled by European whites. That will change everything and help whites to understand what is going on and what needs to be done to protect our interests.

    • Replies: @Charon
    Agreed. You've also elegantly and eloquently explained why the category does not exist and may never.
    , @sayless
    The MENA category will give them better access to loans from the Small Business Administration.
  310. @ricpic
    What are Christians in the Middle East suffering from Jews? Nothing!

    But go on bleating, you Jew hating standard Unzite.

    What are Christians in the Middle East suffering from Jews? Nothing!

    Palestinian Christians were murdered and ethnically cleansed by Jews. They are currently being held in horrific conditions in the West Bank and are subject to constant violence and harassment by racist Jewish settlers and soldiers.

    Christians in Iraq and Syria have been devastated by wars that were largely created by Jews in an attempt to weaken countries that are not subservient to Israel. The Jewish Lobby here in the US has been the most aggressive and influential force demanding these wars. The global Jewish Lobby strongly supported the Sunni Muslim terrorists in Syria who murdered and ethnically cleansed Christians.

    Without the strong support of the the global Jewish Lobby, the Iraq and Syrian wars probably would not have happened.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  311. @Buffalo Joe
    541, a heart felt thank you. New Beef on Weck (Bar Bills) restaurant opened three miles up on Main St. Poured money into a total refurb and now shuttered.

    I saw people eating Beef on Weck at the Pok-A-Dot in Batavia when we stopped there for lunch one time. It looked terrible.

    I had a grilled cheese sandwich where the cook slathered the bread with oil before cooking it. The sandwich was so greasy I could hardly eat it. I forget what my daughter had but she hated it too and we’ve never been back.

  312. @Lot
    Hebrew National dogs are commonly sold in California at independent hot dog carts. That will require large parks and county fairs to reopen though.

    The fat free all beef dogs at the grocery store are pretty good. Lots of protein, shame about the nitrates.

    Note that I am an Old Palo Altan, meaning former. I’m in North Britain these days.

    But I’m much more likely to be in California later this year than New York, so your information is welcome.

  313. @Lot
    https://66.media.tumblr.com/273ffeef5c4f1b5f2df4b035d07ad339/tumblr_ngptkpUpt41rpduwho1_500.gif

    https://i.giphy.com/media/ToMjGpK0ZoDoyheUEIU/giphy.gif

    Flowbee!

  314. @Anonymous
    Jack D

    Here we go again - Another one of his screeds filled with all kinds of exaggerations. I have a Masters Degree from a Top 10 Engineering University. Due to the nature of my work, I am quite familiar with the faculties of such departments at universities across the United States . There is no Top 50 Engineering faculty (ME,CE,EE,CS) filled with "AA hires" and politicized idiots. I don't agree with the diversity signaling that JackOh's post describes but there are very few departments that have more than 1 or 2 tenured NAMS on their faculty. In fact, there are several HBCU STEM faculties that are majority foreign non-NAM.

    https://www.pvamu.edu/engineering/departments/cs/faculty-and-staff/

    Lol - I've been on Jack's ass all weekend.

    You have to look at new hires, not existing faculty. The existing mostly white faculty is the PROBLEM. The only way you can get the faculty to mirror the population (which is the goal) is to make virtually all of your future hires minority until you hit your number. (Lots of luck if you are a white male starting an academic career nowadays). But white applicants tend to be better qualified in their fields so you need to put your thumb on the scale for minorities (she’s less qualified but she did more minority “outreach”) or else you will never get there.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Ok, but as has been discussed on this site before, how many whites are foregoing much more lucrative careers in medicine,law, and finance to pursue STEM Phds. The last time I looked at the stats, not many.

    https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2017/10/11/foreign-students-and-graduate-stem-enrollment

    In fact, if anything, there is a bias against non-US born PHds for tenure track positions because they cant get security clearances (thank god) and the majority of research funding is still from DOD sources like DARPA, NRL,ARL, etc..I'm absolutely sure given an equal set of qualifications, the US born student will receive preference regardless of NAM status. I am perfectly fine with such given how our Eastern friends brought a pandemic to our shores and didn't even warn us. In fact, not only did they not warn us, but they and their co-nationals bought up all of our PPE and sent it home.

    Jeez

  315. @Jack D
    As I understand it, in those days, when Maronite Lebanese and Syrians such as Thomas were thin on the ground, they didn't have enough density to form Maronite congregations in America and they gravitated to Roman Catholicism as the next best thing (and married mostly non-Middle Eastern Catholic women - Pauls's father married an Irish-American, Danny Thomas married an Italian-American, etc.). Lebanon and Syria were under French (therefore Catholic) influence and Catholic Church orders opened (French language) schools in those countries so that didn't hurt either.

    Other Eastern Rite churches in America would have been closely associated with a single ethnic group and Maronites would not have felt comfortable in a church where everyone else was a different (single) ethnicity, spoke a different language (and was not loyal to Rome) - Greek or Russian or whatever - at least in a Catholic Church it was an ethnic stew already so they would not stick out as being different.

    There are a lot of ethnic divisions among Uniates (loosely tied to the Pope) and among the Orthodox (rejecting the Pope, although very “High Church” liturgically and almost as hierarchical as Roman Catholics.) The Maronites are Uniates, and, in the online Mass I partook of this morning, the priest mentioned a local Maronite church. (This was in St. Louis.) I later checked on the Internet and found that this church, St. Raymond’s Maronite Cathedral, had been around 100 years. I also found that Maronite churches were thin on the ground in and around St. Louis, which I already knew they were in and around Chicago.

  316. @BB753
    Well, Syria was a hotbed of Christianity for centuries. It's hard to conceive a religion having a worst impact on society, culture, science, history and civilisation than Islam.
    The French and the British could have crushed Islam for good in the last century, but instead went native, or ecumenical, that is masonic, on them.

    British established church Anglicanism had a lot in common with secularized post-1789 French Catholicism.

    • Replies: @BB753
    Yeah, the Anglican Church for most of its history has been but a branch of masonry. Most bishops were and still are freemasons.
    In France, after the Restoration, the French Church did get rid of most of its "jacobins".
  317. @Anonymous
    Jack D

    Here we go again - Another one of his screeds filled with all kinds of exaggerations. I have a Masters Degree from a Top 10 Engineering University. Due to the nature of my work, I am quite familiar with the faculties of such departments at universities across the United States . There is no Top 50 Engineering faculty (ME,CE,EE,CS) filled with "AA hires" and politicized idiots. I don't agree with the diversity signaling that JackOh's post describes but there are very few departments that have more than 1 or 2 tenured NAMS on their faculty. In fact, there are several HBCU STEM faculties that are majority foreign non-NAM.

    https://www.pvamu.edu/engineering/departments/cs/faculty-and-staff/

    Lol - I've been on Jack's ass all weekend.

    A284, my first thought on seeing that requirement for a diversity statement was something like: “How is a good-hearted and job-hungry straight White male supposed to interpret that requirement?”

    Thirty percent of the EE faculty are of Asian and Mideast heritage or birth. No women. Not sure if there are any Blacks.

    Is that diversity statement just boilerplate, so that mouthing a few conventional pieties will get you by? Or will you get hardballed?

    (I’m a non-prof, but a close observer of my local Podunk Tech.)

    Thanks for your comment.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Yes - tenure track faculty positions are an extremely scarce good. Even NAMS with the most basic set of qualifications for these positions, a PHD and some sort of research trail, are extremely rare and have high paying options outside of academia. The Diversity statement is probably some sort of general requirement promulgated by Podunk Tech's Office of Diversity and Inclusion on all departments - STEM and non-STEM. I'm not endorsing the inclusion of that requirement in the application process but to make the leap that because of it the faculty will be filled with NAMS and other political apparatchiks in a couple of years is absurd. Your Podunk Techs faculty is filled with foreign born nationals like many other schools in the US. God help us.
  318. @Senor Moose
    This is ultimately a colonial ideology: Whereas Toutonghi the father believed that the key to succeeding in his adopted homeland involved assimilating to its culture (including identifying with its majority racial group), Toutonghi the son saw the key to success in distancing himself from the historical population of the United States. Hence he converts from Christianity to Islam, and dissociates with white people. This is his strategy for solidifying his place in the elite—emphasize that he is apart from the historical people of the United States.

    Of course, the difference between this and traditional colonialism is that, in traditional colonialism, the ruling foreign elite came from the same country. Now the elite is a weird, unstable coalition of a bunch of different foreigners. Their only commonality is their shared animus towards the historical American population.

    One wonders how long this will go one before the natives rebel.

    Unless the natives repudiate their universalist ideology and adopt an ethnic particularist world view I don’t see it ever ending. Like in Gaul after the frankish conquest the natives adopted the polítical identity of the conquerors, if the present trends continue in Future America everyone will claim to be a member of some group formerly oppressed by the WASPs, and the overthrow of the WASPs will replace the conquest of the West as the countries founding myth, with the jews taking the place of the pioneers and WASPs the place of the Indians.

    • Replies: @Charon
    A thoughtful and educational post. I'd only add that the WASPs will only take the place of the amerinds in the sense of being dislocated and dispossessed.

    In the sense that the amerinds are venerated and said to possess a right of primacy to the entire continent (after they've been divested of it, of course) well that's something that will never ever happen to the WASPs.

    Unfortunately for them, the WASPs made the critical error of finding themselves potentially blocking the path toward economic, cultural, and political domination of Those Who Must Not Be Named.

  319. Anonymous[284] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    You have to look at new hires, not existing faculty. The existing mostly white faculty is the PROBLEM. The only way you can get the faculty to mirror the population (which is the goal) is to make virtually all of your future hires minority until you hit your number. (Lots of luck if you are a white male starting an academic career nowadays). But white applicants tend to be better qualified in their fields so you need to put your thumb on the scale for minorities (she's less qualified but she did more minority "outreach") or else you will never get there.

    Ok, but as has been discussed on this site before, how many whites are foregoing much more lucrative careers in medicine,law, and finance to pursue STEM Phds. The last time I looked at the stats, not many.

    https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2017/10/11/foreign-students-and-graduate-stem-enrollment

    In fact, if anything, there is a bias against non-US born PHds for tenure track positions because they cant get security clearances (thank god) and the majority of research funding is still from DOD sources like DARPA, NRL,ARL, etc..I’m absolutely sure given an equal set of qualifications, the US born student will receive preference regardless of NAM status. I am perfectly fine with such given how our Eastern friends brought a pandemic to our shores and didn’t even warn us. In fact, not only did they not warn us, but they and their co-nationals bought up all of our PPE and sent it home.

    Jeez

  320. @Anonymous
    Well, well, welll, 1,169 deaths yesterday, 1,480 today. America is breaking records in this pandemic. When will America reach quintuple-digit deaths a day? If the statistical trend continues, this is a real possibility in a month or two...

    Anon 203, looked up the stats for the 4/ 2009-4/2010 H1N1 virus, just for comparison. US numbers only, 60.8 million cases, 274,308 hospitalizations and 12,469 deaths. CDC website.

    • Replies: @res
    We were lucky the 2009 H1N1 fatality rate was so low (about 1 in 50,000 per those numbers). That is not the case this time.

    Here is an article comparing now with 2009 (and 1968, 1918).
    https://www.biospace.com/article/2009-h1n1-pandemic-versus-the-2020-coronavirus-pandemic/
  321. Anonymous[284] • Disclaimer says:
    @OscarWildeLoveChild
    My family is from Louisiana, and while I understand your point, the same could be applied to Confederate General James Longstreet, South Carolina born, who spent some post-war years in New Orleans, and was eager to normalize the South, by doing things like, leading a black militia to put down an insurrection of the White League.

    Louisiana is unlike anywhere else in the South, and is full of whites like me that are likely mixed with Arab, Iberian, French, Indian, black, etc. Not all, or all in the same degree, but it seems like most. And this is going way back.

    Thanks nice point.

  322. Anonymous[284] • Disclaimer says:
    @JackOH
    A284, my first thought on seeing that requirement for a diversity statement was something like: "How is a good-hearted and job-hungry straight White male supposed to interpret that requirement?"

    Thirty percent of the EE faculty are of Asian and Mideast heritage or birth. No women. Not sure if there are any Blacks.

    Is that diversity statement just boilerplate, so that mouthing a few conventional pieties will get you by? Or will you get hardballed?

    (I'm a non-prof, but a close observer of my local Podunk Tech.)

    Thanks for your comment.

    Yes – tenure track faculty positions are an extremely scarce good. Even NAMS with the most basic set of qualifications for these positions, a PHD and some sort of research trail, are extremely rare and have high paying options outside of academia. The Diversity statement is probably some sort of general requirement promulgated by Podunk Tech’s Office of Diversity and Inclusion on all departments – STEM and non-STEM. I’m not endorsing the inclusion of that requirement in the application process but to make the leap that because of it the faculty will be filled with NAMS and other political apparatchiks in a couple of years is absurd. Your Podunk Techs faculty is filled with foreign born nationals like many other schools in the US. God help us.

  323. @Known Fact
    Along with Scooby Doo and Top 40, the multi-talented Kasem flashed his dramatic chops -- as an appliance-store salesman in deep with the mob -- in Steal Now Pay Later, a fine 1974 Hawaii 5-0. Sleazy Ray Danton and icy Laraine Stephens were the heavies.

    Great closing scene, and the 1974 version of a Best Buy-type store is a riot.

    https://youtu.be/BrMyl0VOQNQ

    Thank you, Mr. Fact! I forgot how good a show that was. “Oh, and here’s a present for your cell”. Actually taping a guy with these retail Transonic recorders was a really cool thing and plot twist. Oh, and not a minority in sight but Chin Ho.

  324. Anon[267] • Disclaimer says:

    Hates Being Called “White”

    This shallow character is one of very many who come to the US – encouraged by the usual suspects – who pretend superiority yet have atrocious manners and little or no empathy. But then they’re brought here to take and trash as they can? Useful, disposable, idiots.

  325. @ATBOTL
    It is vitally important for white interests to have a MENA category on the US Census. We need to know how many real white Europeans live in the USA. The "white" percentage is being skewed upward by the huge number of Middle Eastern people, people who are genetically and culturally distinct from European whites.

    An artificially high "white" population in official statistics gives whites a false sense of security. It also exaggerates the percentage of elites who are "white," helping to feed anti-white narratives designed to decrease the white representation among elites even more.

    If MENA people are consistently treated as a separate category, the true make up of the elite will become apparent to all. The Supreme Court is 1/3 MENA and less than half European white. When MENA people are counted, many elite institutions will be seen by all as not being controlled by European whites. That will change everything and help whites to understand what is going on and what needs to be done to protect our interests.

    Agreed. You’ve also elegantly and eloquently explained why the category does not exist and may never.

  326. @Hugo Silva
    Unless the natives repudiate their universalist ideology and adopt an ethnic particularist world view I don't see it ever ending. Like in Gaul after the frankish conquest the natives adopted the polítical identity of the conquerors, if the present trends continue in Future America everyone will claim to be a member of some group formerly oppressed by the WASPs, and the overthrow of the WASPs will replace the conquest of the West as the countries founding myth, with the jews taking the place of the pioneers and WASPs the place of the Indians.

    A thoughtful and educational post. I’d only add that the WASPs will only take the place of the amerinds in the sense of being dislocated and dispossessed.

    In the sense that the amerinds are venerated and said to possess a right of primacy to the entire continent (after they’ve been divested of it, of course) well that’s something that will never ever happen to the WASPs.

    Unfortunately for them, the WASPs made the critical error of finding themselves potentially blocking the path toward economic, cultural, and political domination of Those Who Must Not Be Named.

  327. Michelle Malkin appears on Red Ice:

    Definitely watch my latest interview with
    @michellemalkin

    She’s a good one!

    In Defense of America’s European Roots

    Coulter-Malkin 2024? They’d get my vote.

  328. @Hibernian
    British established church Anglicanism had a lot in common with secularized post-1789 French Catholicism.

    Yeah, the Anglican Church for most of its history has been but a branch of masonry. Most bishops were and still are freemasons.
    In France, after the Restoration, the French Church did get rid of most of its “jacobins”.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
    "In France, after the Restoration, the French Church did get rid of most of its “jacobins”.

    Only to have them come back again in two waves:

    1) after the idiotic and radical condemnation of Action Francaise by the politically consistently disastrous (except in Spain) Pius XI, when people like Jacques Maritain flipped from right to left out of a misplaced sense of papal loyalty, and the old French monarchist Right found itself split, and thus less effective than heretofore;

    2) after 1945, when De Gaulle insisted upon the elimination of all bishops who had "collaborated" with Petain, whose government, after all, had been the legitimate one from 1940 till 1944.

    One of those removed was the Papal Nuncio, the suave and experienced Valerio Valeri. His replacement? A certain Angelo Giuseppi Roncalli. Valeri was experienced and subtle; Roncalli, although not in fact a liberal (he detested the worker priest movement for example), was naive and trusting.
    He later evinced both traits to disastrous effect as Pope John XXIII.

  329. @Buffalo Joe
    Anon 203, looked up the stats for the 4/ 2009-4/2010 H1N1 virus, just for comparison. US numbers only, 60.8 million cases, 274,308 hospitalizations and 12,469 deaths. CDC website.

    We were lucky the 2009 H1N1 fatality rate was so low (about 1 in 50,000 per those numbers). That is not the case this time.

    Here is an article comparing now with 2009 (and 1968, 1918).
    https://www.biospace.com/article/2009-h1n1-pandemic-versus-the-2020-coronavirus-pandemic/

  330. @syonredux

    So anything darker than a ginger is now “dusty brown?”
     
    Just a young Person of Color, trying to make it in a White Man's world.....


    https://landlordrocknyc.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/tumblr_lxyh26godp1qz84n6o1_500.jpg

    He made it, but they got him in the end.

  331. @Buffalo Joe
    Lagie, Classic Jewish movie for Lent. Today is Palm Sunday. Stay well.

    Thanks, Joe…but it was more of what she said about her skin not being as white (“white as milk”) as the Egyptian Queen’s – play the clip.

  332. @PiltdownMan
    https://www.toledoblade.com/image/2003/11/21/1140x_a10-7_cTC/FORD-FOOTBALL.jpg

    Watch your head!

  333. @ATBOTL
    It is vitally important for white interests to have a MENA category on the US Census. We need to know how many real white Europeans live in the USA. The "white" percentage is being skewed upward by the huge number of Middle Eastern people, people who are genetically and culturally distinct from European whites.

    An artificially high "white" population in official statistics gives whites a false sense of security. It also exaggerates the percentage of elites who are "white," helping to feed anti-white narratives designed to decrease the white representation among elites even more.

    If MENA people are consistently treated as a separate category, the true make up of the elite will become apparent to all. The Supreme Court is 1/3 MENA and less than half European white. When MENA people are counted, many elite institutions will be seen by all as not being controlled by European whites. That will change everything and help whites to understand what is going on and what needs to be done to protect our interests.

    The MENA category will give them better access to loans from the Small Business Administration.

  334. @BB753
    Well, Syria was a hotbed of Christianity for centuries. It's hard to conceive a religion having a worst impact on society, culture, science, history and civilisation than Islam.
    The French and the British could have crushed Islam for good in the last century, but instead went native, or ecumenical, that is masonic, on them.

    The word “Christian” was coined in Antioch. It isn’t much of a stretch to say that Syria was where Christianity, as a distinct, new religion was truly born.

    >It’s hard to conceive a religion having a worst impact on society, culture, science, history and civilisation than Islam.

    I get the sentiment when it comes to the Middle East, but I wouldn’t go that far when speaking on global terms: not everybody was Rome or Persia. India is an example where Islam was a relative but genuine improvement over native traditions.

    Moreover, I think looking for the reasons why the Islamic World has issues with religious extremism today in the 7th Century is missing the forests for the trees: like any religion, it has mutated and evolved over the centuries. It is undeniable that most of the Islamic World today is characterized by religious intolerance, but I think the historical evidence suggests that this more to do with historical contingencies than theology. The Arabs who were behind the Rashidun conquests of the 7th Century themselves didn’t identify as “Muslims”, in the modern sense of the word: it was only well after the conquests that it would become a distinct religion.

    >The French and the British could have crushed Islam for good in the last century, but instead went native, or ecumenical, that is masonic, on them.

    The colonial powers of Europe, despite being explicitly Christian, were intelligent enough to let Muslims keep their religious traditions without interference, and earned the loyalty of many of their subjects to the point of them fighting in wars for them. Or perhaps that’s part of it: as people who still believed in God, the Europeans could still semi-get how the Muslim World thought as recently as 1900.

    I think that’s part of the root issue: elites in Europe and the US are so immersed now in a postmodern, secular thought-world that they have a very difficult time even understanding how people outside that thought bubble operate. And unlike Christianity, the ideology of today’s Western elites is something that is never going to vaguely seem coopererable to a pious Muslim.

    As someone who has been on both sides of this divide, I’ve seen this in action for myself. On the rare occasion that Western progressives actually interact with real, believing Muslims, at best, they talk completely past each other. The powers-that-be in the West fetishize Islam not so much as a faith so much as a symbol of the brown people that they implicitly view as good children needing their protection, as a way to bludgeon and punish the legacy white, Christian culture and BadWhites that they despise. The irony here is that this is a notion that most Muslims would find deeply offensive: like Christianity, Islam is supposed to be an explicitly universal, egalitarian faith that doesn’t care about race.

    • Agree: sayless, PiltdownMan
    • Thanks: Lockean Proviso
    • Replies: @BB753
    Great post! But I disagree in that the colonial powers were wise in not persecuting Islam. After all, Muslims did persecute Christianity whenever they ruled over a Christian land. And Islam was very weak at the beginning of the XXth century.
    It was the right moment to destroy the harmful heresy which had taken hold over the formerly Christian Middle-East and North Africa.
    As to whether Islam was an improvement over Hinduism in India, we'll have to ask Hindu Indians for that question.
  335. @black sea

    … But, since my father died, I have found myself wondering about the rage I saw in him as he grew older, and whether it might have reflected the refusal of his adopted and beloved country to see him.
     
    As incidents of White racism become more and more scarce on the ground, People of Color (or in this guy's case, Aspirational People of Color) are forced to trundle out these entirely unfalsifiable accusations of bigotry or systemic racism or micro-aggression.

    His father's adopted country refused to see him. Well, according to the man's obituary, after moving to California at the age of 14,"Joe and his siblings thrived in their new home and Joe learned English from comic books and movies. Offered a generous opportunity to study at Seattle University, he moved to Seattle to complete an undergraduate degree and then pursued Master’s classes at the University of Washington." The father went on to become a successful salesman, and then a high school teacher, a job which he evidently found both "energizing" and rewarding. While we know almost nothing about the details of the father's private life, it's hard to bend this skeletal biography into the shape of immigrant tragedy.

    What exactly should his friends, neighbors, and co-workers have done to see him? Having moved to America -- California, no less -- prior to the era of opportunistic victimhood, perhaps he wanted to be seen as a gregarious and successful American who had found his place in a new culture. I think this piece is really more about a son's dismissal of his father than it is about America's.

    It’s his narcissistic ingrate of a son who professes to see him primarily as a narrow, politically fraught identity. America saw him as a successful individual in the land of opportunity.

  336. @Known Fact
    Fortunately, B-Joe, the hospital in my conservative NY county still relies on leeches, potions and trephining -- not much for Il Duce to commandeer.

    If you can convince the big city liberals to indulge their worst stereotypes about you provincial hicks and your rejection of science and modern medicine due to clinging to your guns, leeches, and religion, maybe you can keep your ventilators.

  337. @J.Ross
    THIS. Flight from white is idiotic, it's got no endgame, it ends with the flyer on his knees covered in blood attempting to argue semantics with an angry kang.

    Please, not THIS, or this, thanks. Once is enough, more than that not.

  338. @nebulafox
    The word "Christian" was coined in Antioch. It isn't much of a stretch to say that Syria was where Christianity, as a distinct, new religion was truly born.

    >It’s hard to conceive a religion having a worst impact on society, culture, science, history and civilisation than Islam.

    I get the sentiment when it comes to the Middle East, but I wouldn't go that far when speaking on global terms: not everybody was Rome or Persia. India is an example where Islam was a relative but genuine improvement over native traditions.

    Moreover, I think looking for the reasons why the Islamic World has issues with religious extremism today in the 7th Century is missing the forests for the trees: like any religion, it has mutated and evolved over the centuries. It is undeniable that most of the Islamic World today is characterized by religious intolerance, but I think the historical evidence suggests that this more to do with historical contingencies than theology. The Arabs who were behind the Rashidun conquests of the 7th Century themselves didn't identify as "Muslims", in the modern sense of the word: it was only well after the conquests that it would become a distinct religion.

    >The French and the British could have crushed Islam for good in the last century, but instead went native, or ecumenical, that is masonic, on them.

    The colonial powers of Europe, despite being explicitly Christian, were intelligent enough to let Muslims keep their religious traditions without interference, and earned the loyalty of many of their subjects to the point of them fighting in wars for them. Or perhaps that's part of it: as people who still believed in God, the Europeans could still semi-get how the Muslim World thought as recently as 1900.

    I think that's part of the root issue: elites in Europe and the US are so immersed now in a postmodern, secular thought-world that they have a very difficult time even understanding how people outside that thought bubble operate. And unlike Christianity, the ideology of today's Western elites is something that is never going to vaguely seem coopererable to a pious Muslim.

    As someone who has been on both sides of this divide, I've seen this in action for myself. On the rare occasion that Western progressives actually interact with real, believing Muslims, at best, they talk completely past each other. The powers-that-be in the West fetishize Islam not so much as a faith so much as a symbol of the brown people that they implicitly view as good children needing their protection, as a way to bludgeon and punish the legacy white, Christian culture and BadWhites that they despise. The irony here is that this is a notion that most Muslims would find deeply offensive: like Christianity, Islam is supposed to be an explicitly universal, egalitarian faith that doesn't care about race.

    Great post! But I disagree in that the colonial powers were wise in not persecuting Islam. After all, Muslims did persecute Christianity whenever they ruled over a Christian land. And Islam was very weak at the beginning of the XXth century.
    It was the right moment to destroy the harmful heresy which had taken hold over the formerly Christian Middle-East and North Africa.
    As to whether Islam was an improvement over Hinduism in India, we’ll have to ask Hindu Indians for that question.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The British and French learned from the bad example of the Spanish and Portuguese, who hated Muslims and persecuted them wherever they found them -- with the result that they had endless and unnecessary trouble with Muslims. The Spanish could never have ruled over the Muslims of North Africa, or the Portuguese over the Muslims of India, as did the French and British.
  339. @Buzz Mohawk

    Ever saw Gerald Ford’s college photo?
     
    Yes, I have. I even had a friend whose father was a Secret Service agent for Ford in Vail.

    I was only giving poor Dick some credit. He was tough, loved the game, and never gave up, even though he was a second-stringer. I am something of a revisionist about Nixon.

    In that picture, he looks a lot like my dear cousin from California.

    “Yes, I have. I even had a friend whose father was a Secret Service agent for Ford in Vail.”

    Did this fellow have a high or low opinion of ol’ Jerry?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    Did this fellow have a high or low opinion of ol’ Jerry?
     
    He had a high, innocent one. My favorite story from him is about Jerry and King Juan Carlos of Spain jumping into a hot tub together, fully clothed. It was a casual party at Vail, and the king suddenly jumped in, and everyone else there followed, with all their clothes on. My friend's father witnessed the whole thing.
  340. @Reg Cæsar

    The New Yorker Magazine: EVERY.SINGLE.TIME!
     
    People buy it for the cartoons-- and that's what this piece is.

    Pauls Toutonghi = Pout, lashing out.

    If they are buying the New Yorker for the cartoons, they are about 40 years too late. Gag cartoons used to be a viable profession for a few dozen exceptional cartoonists. Now, the best that gag cartoons can do is make you gag. But don’t get me started…

  341. @BB753
    Yeah, the Anglican Church for most of its history has been but a branch of masonry. Most bishops were and still are freemasons.
    In France, after the Restoration, the French Church did get rid of most of its "jacobins".

    “In France, after the Restoration, the French Church did get rid of most of its “jacobins”.

    Only to have them come back again in two waves:

    1) after the idiotic and radical condemnation of Action Francaise by the politically consistently disastrous (except in Spain) Pius XI, when people like Jacques Maritain flipped from right to left out of a misplaced sense of papal loyalty, and the old French monarchist Right found itself split, and thus less effective than heretofore;

    2) after 1945, when De Gaulle insisted upon the elimination of all bishops who had “collaborated” with Petain, whose government, after all, had been the legitimate one from 1940 till 1944.

    One of those removed was the Papal Nuncio, the suave and experienced Valerio Valeri. His replacement? A certain Angelo Giuseppi Roncalli. Valeri was experienced and subtle; Roncalli, although not in fact a liberal (he detested the worker priest movement for example), was naive and trusting.
    He later evinced both traits to disastrous effect as Pope John XXIII.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @BB753
    Indeed, de Gaulle was an absolute disaster for France. All talk and no walk, like Reagan. He kept the French frog boiling slowly as the country was being dismantled by the "énarques", p.o.s. like Pompidou, Giscard or Chirac, an Anglo-American puppet till his dying day.
    I still don't know if he was a delusional fool or a knave, like Churchill. God save us from "great" men.
  342. @Corn
    “Yes, I have. I even had a friend whose father was a Secret Service agent for Ford in Vail.”

    Did this fellow have a high or low opinion of ol’ Jerry?

    Did this fellow have a high or low opinion of ol’ Jerry?

    He had a high, innocent one. My favorite story from him is about Jerry and King Juan Carlos of Spain jumping into a hot tub together, fully clothed. It was a casual party at Vail, and the king suddenly jumped in, and everyone else there followed, with all their clothes on. My friend’s father witnessed the whole thing.

  343. Anonymous[365] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    I think this is pretty standard now. It's all good from the Leftist POV. Legally they can't discriminate on the basis of race but considering candidates on the basis of "what they have done to help diversity" is based on action, not race, so it's legal. It just so happens that Wise Latinas tend to gravitate more toward community outreach toward the Latinx community than white guys do. They also tend to have less distinguished academic records so considering this helps to level the playing field. Otherwise the white guy is going to have better credentials and is going to win.

    2nd, to the extent that they still have to hire or consider white people at all, this way they can exclude deplorables who do not have a long record of having drunk the Kool-Aid and dedicated their careers to "promoting diversity". You've focused all of your efforts on advancing electrical engineering - forget about it.

    This is how our professoriate is being increasingly filled with AA hires and politicized idiots who are not even good at what they do. Even in the Soviet Union they valued competence over party loyalty in academia in non-political fields such as EE and math. There was a sort of implicit pact that as long as you stayed away from politics they would leave you alone to study your equations. They knew that they were not going to beat the West in science with a bunch of political hacks. We are on a path toward being worse than the Soviet Union.

    Yes Stalin got rid of his best generals and replaced them with party loyalists who knew nothing about war and the result was the disasters of 1941-2. The Russians learned in the worst way possible that competence is more important than political correctness. The US is setting itself up for a similar disaster.

  344. Anonymous[365] • Disclaimer says:
    @BB753
    Great post! But I disagree in that the colonial powers were wise in not persecuting Islam. After all, Muslims did persecute Christianity whenever they ruled over a Christian land. And Islam was very weak at the beginning of the XXth century.
    It was the right moment to destroy the harmful heresy which had taken hold over the formerly Christian Middle-East and North Africa.
    As to whether Islam was an improvement over Hinduism in India, we'll have to ask Hindu Indians for that question.

    The British and French learned from the bad example of the Spanish and Portuguese, who hated Muslims and persecuted them wherever they found them — with the result that they had endless and unnecessary trouble with Muslims. The Spanish could never have ruled over the Muslims of North Africa, or the Portuguese over the Muslims of India, as did the French and British.

    • Replies: @BB753
    During colonial times (19th century till mid 20th century) Muslims weren't persecuted in North Africa by Spain nor by Portugal in India. They were largely left alone.
  345. @Anonymous
    The British and French learned from the bad example of the Spanish and Portuguese, who hated Muslims and persecuted them wherever they found them -- with the result that they had endless and unnecessary trouble with Muslims. The Spanish could never have ruled over the Muslims of North Africa, or the Portuguese over the Muslims of India, as did the French and British.

    During colonial times (19th century till mid 20th century) Muslims weren’t persecuted in North Africa by Spain nor by Portugal in India. They were largely left alone.

  346. @syonredux
    One of the author's sisters:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr8jwrL75rA

    Holy crap! I can’t believe any adult would make such an embarrassing video like this. And she doesn’t even mention her Mom when asked, “Who are your three women heroes?” But she does babble something about her 2 grandmothers.

    Those poor parents sacrificed everything to raise their children only to have them grow up to be selfish, egotistical brats.

  347. @Old Palo Altan
    "In France, after the Restoration, the French Church did get rid of most of its “jacobins”.

    Only to have them come back again in two waves:

    1) after the idiotic and radical condemnation of Action Francaise by the politically consistently disastrous (except in Spain) Pius XI, when people like Jacques Maritain flipped from right to left out of a misplaced sense of papal loyalty, and the old French monarchist Right found itself split, and thus less effective than heretofore;

    2) after 1945, when De Gaulle insisted upon the elimination of all bishops who had "collaborated" with Petain, whose government, after all, had been the legitimate one from 1940 till 1944.

    One of those removed was the Papal Nuncio, the suave and experienced Valerio Valeri. His replacement? A certain Angelo Giuseppi Roncalli. Valeri was experienced and subtle; Roncalli, although not in fact a liberal (he detested the worker priest movement for example), was naive and trusting.
    He later evinced both traits to disastrous effect as Pope John XXIII.

    Indeed, de Gaulle was an absolute disaster for France. All talk and no walk, like Reagan. He kept the French frog boiling slowly as the country was being dismantled by the “énarques”, p.o.s. like Pompidou, Giscard or Chirac, an Anglo-American puppet till his dying day.
    I still don’t know if he was a delusional fool or a knave, like Churchill. God save us from “great” men.

  348. @ricpic
    What are Christians in the Middle East suffering from Jews? Nothing!

    But go on bleating, you Jew hating standard Unzite.

    Hey Asshole, tell that to the Million+ Palestinian Christians.

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