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What’s going on in Europe is a Flash Mob. In the Age of the Smartphone, a huge crowd can be assembled at much lower information transmission cost than just a decade ago. Chancellor Merkel assumed she could still break the EU rules to make a modest humanitarian gesture and get lots of thumbs up from the global media without setting off The Camp of Saints.

But that’s not how things work these days.

Here’s poor Ms. Merkel’s vision of a Flash Mob:

But here’s a different, more relevant kind of Flash Mob:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pOXyl_9l2U

 
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  1. There are flashpoints, flash mobs, and now plain old flashing

    Hat trick!

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Reg Cæsar

    Those babes have, er, balls doing that at a Muslim conference.

  2. Priss Factor [AKA "skiapolemistis"] says:

    Europeans need to flash-mob their governments and remove all the leaders who called for war and intervention in the Middle East and North Africa.
    And Merkel needs to be removed now.

    Well, at least Gadfly got the last laugh. He deserves it given what the West did to his country.

    • Replies: @WowJustWow
    @Priss Factor

    "Europeans need to flash-mob their governments and remove all the leaders who called for war and intervention in the Middle East and North Africa."

    Then you'd just look like a bunch of lame fascists. It would be far more effective to persuade some migrants to pitch their tents in the wings of your country's parliamentary buildings, and in the front yards of celebrities' houses.

  3. I am sort of clueless about what goes one outside of the alt-right web community. I have no cable. I little contact with people not a part of “our thing”. So I can’t say how exactly this is affecting the greater public in America. I am sure it has to be a boon for Trump. I hope it is scaring the crap out of Americans.

    But I must say that our writers have really stepped up. The level and quality of things produced is as high as I have ever read in this community. The only other time that it was this good was back in Haven Montana days. This linkage of HBD and psychological makeup that emerged from so many quarters, I think has pushed the whole idea of genes rule/blank slate drools into a whole new realm of quality writing, giving many of us very good references for future fights.

    • Replies: @WowJustWow
    @Mark Minter

    From what little I've seen, Trump hasn't benefited, because the only topic getting any coverage these days is Trump.

    So maybe that means he has benefited from it not being covered.

    , @Buzz Mohawk
    @Mark Minter


    I am sort of clueless about what goes one outside of the alt-right web community. I have no cable.
     
    You're not missing anything but prolefeed* and propaganda.

    You are saving money and time better spent on worthwhile things. Good for you. My work does not allow me to be that cut off, and my wife needs cable for her shows. So there you go.

    Salutations.

    *https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolefeed
  4. The first sentence should read “much lower information cost”.

    Transaction costs and information costs are two different and distinct things.

    Given this blog’s categorical perfection, even the tiniest flaw in a single post might cause a catastrophic tear in the space-time continuum, ending reality as we know it.

  5. I’ve seen this juxtaposing of white and black flash mobs on YouTube before (“white v black flash mobs” linked at the end of the second video above is downright heartbreaking, placing an amazing video of a flash performance in Spain of “Ode to Joy” alongside one of the usual black mayhem; I don’t expect people to hate blacks because of it–myself I’ve gone beyond fear and loathing to a blank, dumbfounded state; it simply Does Not Compute–but why, how, can we still hate ourselves, after such knowledge?) and have found myself fantasizing grimly about one of the gentle white versions getting crashed by one of the black versions. One of those food-court choirs proceeding along and all of a sudden comes stomping through a mob of gleefully violent youths, say. A Cleon Peterson work come to life, only slightly less gruesome. This comes to mind when I see the European crowds serenading the “refugees”, some of whom appear dumbfounded (what must they think?). It makes you want to cry. Shame on us.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Dennis Dale

    This comes to mind when I see the European crowds serenading the “refugees”, some of whom appear dumbfounded (what must they think?). It makes you want to cry. Shame on us.

    It makes me think of an updated version of the Lord of the Rings in which Galadriel opens Lothlórien to the orcs and gets married to an Uruk-hai. Check your privilege, elves!

    Replies: @Vendetta

    , @Erik Sieven
    @Dennis Dale

    I do not feel sorry for those who seem to be dumbfounded or naive. They know what they are cheering for, that´s why they do it. Trying to stop them is like trying to stop someone who is into SM-practices.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale

    , @vinteuil
    @Dennis Dale

    "...an amazing video of a flash performance in Spain of 'Ode to Joy'" -

    Yes, it's quite touching:



    The sad irony is that Beethoven/Schiller's "Ode an die Freude" has been adopted as the anthem of the European Union - perhaps the ultimate expression of the silly, naïve, doomed hope that "Alle Menschen werden Brüder."

    The genius of The West, and its folly, summed up in one simple, unforgettable tune.

    Replies: @vinteuil, @Dennis Dale

  6. So you read this, too?

    http://qz.com/500062/the-most-crucial-item-that-migrants-and-refugees-carry-is-a-smartphone/

    Gen. Zuckerberg’s 5th column from the “dark continent” + SW Asian Basket-case Belt

  7. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I’d just like to note here the humorous predicament of the German minister explaining, “Well ma’am, turns out these guys aren’t necessarily as Refugee(tm) as we’d been given to believe…” I wonder if the politicians ever think, Gee, should I get a look at this oncoming bushwacker army myself, and not just keep fingers crossed the media description turns out to be accurate; you know– better safe than sorry and all that

  8. The way you guys think is so out of step with the mainstream it is sad….

    You guys really need to get out of your echo chamber

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    @Anonymous

    What a devastating argument. Never has an argument been both so concise and so devastating. Fold up the blog, Sailer. War's over guys. Head on home. Now, where is this "mainstream" anyway, and how does one get "in step" with a stream? But it sounds great. Can't wait to get there.

    , @Sean
    @Anonymous

    The mainstream ethos is this is one world and counties are just a bug in the system. OK fine, but the people who get to the West are a tiny minority of the most capable and relatively wealthy. They bail out on their people. The higher SES people in Western societies do something similar. Most people in any country are not high SES, and surprise, surprise, they are the ones who no one seems to worry about. Certainly there should be help given to the mass of refugees, but taking then into the West is not cost effective as to the numbers it could help.

    Replies: @Friedrich

    , @FactsAreImportant
    @Anonymous

    Why are these trolls almost always one-off commenters and very rarely respond to responses to their post? (Truth is the notable exception.)

    And why do they often sound like they are posted by someone paid to do so, i.e., by a paid troller.

    , @carol
    @Anonymous

    Oh, it's "sad"? Why is it "sad"? Why are you people always so freaking "sad"? I mean when you're not shaming or ostracizing or trying to ruin someone's career for speaking the truth.

    , @Brutusale
    @Anonymous

    Which mainstream is that? The one that just this morning told me that race is an artificial construct, but that only black teachers should teach black kids?

    , @Alfa158
    @Anonymous

    When the mainstream is run by poltroons, knaves and imbeciles, being out of step is a feature not a bug. We are also out of step with that herd of cattle stampeding off a cliff.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    You guys really need to get out of your echo chamber

     

    Sure, we'll go troll your site.

    But you didn't list it. When you do, Unz will put a nice blue "Website" next to your screen handle.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    , @Olorin
    @Anonymous

    I nominate Bijou's devastating critique for the New Yorker's ongoing marginal feature, "Block that Metaphor!"

    Thinking out of step with a mainstream in an echo chamber.

    Damn. That's practically satori-bait in its numbnuttery.

    Except I get from it a whiff of one of those Ford Foundation or Rockefeller Brothers interns whose "project" it is to troll sites like this one, and practice PR espionage. In hopes of getting paid after graduating with a Studies Studies degree by the 1% to revile regular people as non-mainstream in the name of reviling the 1%.

    Hm. Maybe it's satori-bait after all.

    , @BigRedEyeOfJupiter
    @Anonymous

    Its sadly true that we are out of step with the mainstream, and yet on EVERY political issue from the odd criminal cases the media promotes, to the wars, to this current migrant influx, the alt right has been, well, right in its predictions and initial analysis. With the wider public and those in power grudgingly following along at a later date and rarely learning anything.

  9. @Anonymous
    The way you guys think is so out of step with the mainstream it is sad....

    You guys really need to get out of your echo chamber

    Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Sean, @FactsAreImportant, @carol, @Brutusale, @Alfa158, @Reg Cæsar, @Olorin, @BigRedEyeOfJupiter

    What a devastating argument. Never has an argument been both so concise and so devastating. Fold up the blog, Sailer. War’s over guys. Head on home. Now, where is this “mainstream” anyway, and how does one get “in step” with a stream? But it sounds great. Can’t wait to get there.

  10. If 20 people flood a store to rob it they must have conspired. Aren’t their state conspiracy laws they can use? IIRC, Under federal law, if two people “conspire” to commit a misdemeanor they can be charged with felony conspiracy.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Big Bill


    If 20 people flood a store to rob it they must have conspired. Aren’t their state conspiracy laws they can use? IIRC, Under federal law, if two people “conspire” to commit a misdemeanor they can be charged with felony conspiracy.
     
    Believe it or not that's exactly what I was thinking.
    , @Bill Jones
    @Big Bill

    Pick up one, get his phones and you've got the rest

    , @G Pinfold
    @Big Bill

    De minimus non curat lex - The law does not concern itself with trifling matters... oh wait, unless they be micro-aggressions. That's different.

    But the reality is that our laws were made for men of substance. These non-burghers, like the illegals with immunity from traffic offences in Steve's recent post, are effectively beneath the law.

    Replies: @ben tillman

  11. @Anonymous
    The way you guys think is so out of step with the mainstream it is sad....

    You guys really need to get out of your echo chamber

    Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Sean, @FactsAreImportant, @carol, @Brutusale, @Alfa158, @Reg Cæsar, @Olorin, @BigRedEyeOfJupiter

    The mainstream ethos is this is one world and counties are just a bug in the system. OK fine, but the people who get to the West are a tiny minority of the most capable and relatively wealthy. They bail out on their people. The higher SES people in Western societies do something similar. Most people in any country are not high SES, and surprise, surprise, they are the ones who no one seems to worry about. Certainly there should be help given to the mass of refugees, but taking then into the West is not cost effective as to the numbers it could help.

    • Replies: @Friedrich
    @Sean

    Sorry, but the people coming to the west are mostly welfare leeches. 3 of 4 immigrants who came to Denmark ten years ago are jobless. More than half of the syrian "refugees" coming to Germany will become Hartz-IV-Empänger, i.e. welfare-dependent. Muslims are technically not as gifted as germans (see Andreas Vonderach's "Völkerpsychologie"), and they have lower mean IQ scores. Steve already compared math achievment of Hungary and Syria, with Hugary leading by far. The technical aptitude of germans was known even during the middle ages, when the south especially was prosperous and technically advanced compared to other regions at that time. And germans also treat women very well, they have high respect for females. This goes so far back that the germans who invaded Ancient Rome did not touch the roman women. This is the total opposite of how muslims. In short: we are not compatible. With blacks it's even worse.

    Replies: @Sean

  12. A french point of view on Merkel’s mob.

    (no translation required)

    • Agree: snorlax
  13. @Anonymous
    The way you guys think is so out of step with the mainstream it is sad....

    You guys really need to get out of your echo chamber

    Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Sean, @FactsAreImportant, @carol, @Brutusale, @Alfa158, @Reg Cæsar, @Olorin, @BigRedEyeOfJupiter

    Why are these trolls almost always one-off commenters and very rarely respond to responses to their post? (Truth is the notable exception.)

    And why do they often sound like they are posted by someone paid to do so, i.e., by a paid troller.

  14. Not a one of the Hallelujah Chorus audience stood up – they just stayed on their fat butts, mostly with sullen, bored expressions. None of them knew the tradition, or if any of them did, they couldn’t care less. No honor is to be given to the majesty of their religion nor the beauty of its music. That’s my takeaway from the clip. The continuing obliteration of our culture is nothing but the filling of a vacuum.

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Mustela Mendax


    Not a one of the Hallelujah Chorus audience stood up – they just stayed on their fat butts, mostly with sullen, bored expressions. None of them knew the tradition, or if any of them did, they couldn’t care less. No honor is to be given to the majesty of their religion nor the beauty of its music. That’s my takeaway from the clip. The continuing obliteration of our culture is nothing but the filling of a vacuum.

     

    This is a trenchant observation. The facet of the postmodern western societies I find most contemptible and infuriating is the gross, rank ingratitude: so many who dismiss the glories of classical music -- it's boring!; the soaring beauty of cathedrals -- they're damp and musty!; the profundity, range, and depth of the literary canon -- just stale pale males with nothing to say to me!

    I feel the years slipping by me, and know I'm running out of time trying to get to know one-tenth -- one percent! -- of this tradition, while the 'mainstream' at best ignores it, i.e. when they can't be bothered to piss all over it. This tempts me to despair more than anything else these days . . . .

    Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Beach

  15. @Sean
    @Anonymous

    The mainstream ethos is this is one world and counties are just a bug in the system. OK fine, but the people who get to the West are a tiny minority of the most capable and relatively wealthy. They bail out on their people. The higher SES people in Western societies do something similar. Most people in any country are not high SES, and surprise, surprise, they are the ones who no one seems to worry about. Certainly there should be help given to the mass of refugees, but taking then into the West is not cost effective as to the numbers it could help.

    Replies: @Friedrich

    Sorry, but the people coming to the west are mostly welfare leeches. 3 of 4 immigrants who came to Denmark ten years ago are jobless. More than half of the syrian “refugees” coming to Germany will become Hartz-IV-Empänger, i.e. welfare-dependent. Muslims are technically not as gifted as germans (see Andreas Vonderach’s “Völkerpsychologie”), and they have lower mean IQ scores. Steve already compared math achievment of Hungary and Syria, with Hugary leading by far. The technical aptitude of germans was known even during the middle ages, when the south especially was prosperous and technically advanced compared to other regions at that time. And germans also treat women very well, they have high respect for females. This goes so far back that the germans who invaded Ancient Rome did not touch the roman women. This is the total opposite of how muslims. In short: we are not compatible. With blacks it’s even worse.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Friedrich

    The fact that they have bailed out on their own people and migrated is seem as making then by definition 'self starters' in the eyes of the elite who are actually running things. It will of course end up with a lot of overlap but immigrants doing lowly service jobs while the German Germans do the clever stuff, but that is not necessarily a bad thing from the point of view of economic use of human resources, especially for employers who want a flexible labour market (ie no organised labour). Ethnic Germans will have to be diligent or unemployed (and probably often unmarried). So on the most brutal cost benefit analysis its not a clear no to getting migrants even those who are only capable of low level jobs on average ( Israel has Rumanians and Chinese ect brought in to do low level jobs in preference to uppity Palestinians). There is no question but that Germany will have a larger GDP with extra people. In the Anglo Saxon world those kind of global utility arguments are being made for immigration., with the moral rightness reason being an afterthought

    In Germany it is a moral thing almost entirely and the refugee issue is useful to impose EU control over individual countries for humanitarian reasons. Like it or not that is considered an unanswerable argument in Germany, so if you want to dissuade them it will have to be on the moral grounds that the immigration solution ignores 95% OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUFFERING.

  16. Scarface, with Merkel reprising the role of Jimmah Carter. And Teh Poor Islamists starring as the Marielitos. History doesn’t repeat, but sometimes it rhymes.

  17. @Anonymous
    The way you guys think is so out of step with the mainstream it is sad....

    You guys really need to get out of your echo chamber

    Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Sean, @FactsAreImportant, @carol, @Brutusale, @Alfa158, @Reg Cæsar, @Olorin, @BigRedEyeOfJupiter

    Oh, it’s “sad”? Why is it “sad”? Why are you people always so freaking “sad”? I mean when you’re not shaming or ostracizing or trying to ruin someone’s career for speaking the truth.

  18. @Reg Cæsar
    There are flashpoints, flash mobs, and now plain old flashing

    Hat trick!

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Those babes have, er, balls doing that at a Muslim conference.

  19. @Friedrich
    @Sean

    Sorry, but the people coming to the west are mostly welfare leeches. 3 of 4 immigrants who came to Denmark ten years ago are jobless. More than half of the syrian "refugees" coming to Germany will become Hartz-IV-Empänger, i.e. welfare-dependent. Muslims are technically not as gifted as germans (see Andreas Vonderach's "Völkerpsychologie"), and they have lower mean IQ scores. Steve already compared math achievment of Hungary and Syria, with Hugary leading by far. The technical aptitude of germans was known even during the middle ages, when the south especially was prosperous and technically advanced compared to other regions at that time. And germans also treat women very well, they have high respect for females. This goes so far back that the germans who invaded Ancient Rome did not touch the roman women. This is the total opposite of how muslims. In short: we are not compatible. With blacks it's even worse.

    Replies: @Sean

    The fact that they have bailed out on their own people and migrated is seem as making then by definition ‘self starters’ in the eyes of the elite who are actually running things. It will of course end up with a lot of overlap but immigrants doing lowly service jobs while the German Germans do the clever stuff, but that is not necessarily a bad thing from the point of view of economic use of human resources, especially for employers who want a flexible labour market (ie no organised labour). Ethnic Germans will have to be diligent or unemployed (and probably often unmarried). So on the most brutal cost benefit analysis its not a clear no to getting migrants even those who are only capable of low level jobs on average ( Israel has Rumanians and Chinese ect brought in to do low level jobs in preference to uppity Palestinians). There is no question but that Germany will have a larger GDP with extra people. In the Anglo Saxon world those kind of global utility arguments are being made for immigration., with the moral rightness reason being an afterthought

    In Germany it is a moral thing almost entirely and the refugee issue is useful to impose EU control over individual countries for humanitarian reasons. Like it or not that is considered an unanswerable argument in Germany, so if you want to dissuade them it will have to be on the moral grounds that the immigration solution ignores 95% OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUFFERING.

  20. @Dennis Dale
    I've seen this juxtaposing of white and black flash mobs on YouTube before ("white v black flash mobs" linked at the end of the second video above is downright heartbreaking, placing an amazing video of a flash performance in Spain of "Ode to Joy" alongside one of the usual black mayhem; I don't expect people to hate blacks because of it--myself I've gone beyond fear and loathing to a blank, dumbfounded state; it simply Does Not Compute--but why, how, can we still hate ourselves, after such knowledge?) and have found myself fantasizing grimly about one of the gentle white versions getting crashed by one of the black versions. One of those food-court choirs proceeding along and all of a sudden comes stomping through a mob of gleefully violent youths, say. A Cleon Peterson work come to life, only slightly less gruesome. This comes to mind when I see the European crowds serenading the "refugees", some of whom appear dumbfounded (what must they think?). It makes you want to cry. Shame on us.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Erik Sieven, @vinteuil

    This comes to mind when I see the European crowds serenading the “refugees”, some of whom appear dumbfounded (what must they think?). It makes you want to cry. Shame on us.

    It makes me think of an updated version of the Lord of the Rings in which Galadriel opens Lothlórien to the orcs and gets married to an Uruk-hai. Check your privilege, elves!

    • Replies: @Vendetta
    @Harry Baldwin

    Was actually the Elves who became the boat people at the end of the movies though. Perhaps that's the ultimate vision of some of these progressives....the beautiful good people sail away to paradise and nowhere and leave the earth behind to their lesser peoples.

  21. There is too much focus by everyone on how It Is Different This Time. Along with reductionist justifications and explanations in the form of ideology (e.g. Humanitarianism; Cultural Marxism…).

    It is usually more enlightening to identify historical analogues, as you and others have attempted to do in previous postings and comments. Though different ones then I have. The 1980 Mariel Boat Lift is worth considering because the ideological overlay was the reverse of today. Just as Merkel got her tit caught in a wringer that is Left Humanitarianism, Carter did with the then Right version, Anti-Communist Humanitarianism.

    Therein lies the problem when authorities play around with the ideological thingie. Mariel contributed in no small part to Carter losing in November, 1980, even though he was On The Side Of The Angels at that time. As a pre-election indication of his political genius, Reagan mumbled a vague criticism of Carter’s handling of the crisis six months before the election, and then let the President reap what he had sown from his Anti-Communist Humanitarianism.

    Much is made of the disingenuousness of elected officials. But the same is enduringly present among the citizenry, except for the reckless ideologues of any particular era. The salient difference is that those who are not in authority get to retcon. In other words, even though Carter was in tune with the reigning anti-Communist humanitarianism at the time, he was held accountable — and lost to the seemingly Real Deal, Mr. Twilight Struggle — because he got it wrong. He got us wrong.

    We don’t just expect but we insist that our elected officials say one thing and do another. To put a finer point on it, in instances such as this, we only trust them when we are confident they don’t really mean it when they spout the platitudes.

    Thus of course until it came a cropper Germans wanted to be Good Germans, and not because they were under the spell of Cultural Marxists. They expected, in effect, Merkel not to take them seriously. The same coin, though opposite side, is the case with Orban and Hungarians. They want him to mouth the hard truths — principles in defense of the European Project as originally conceived and hoped — but not get all Medieval on the migrants.

    • Replies: @chris in sydney
    @MLK


    Much is made of the disingenuousness of elected officials. But the same is enduringly present among the citizenry, except for the reckless ideologues of any particular era.
     
    So true. Got stuck into this with my baby boomer dad. He is no leftist ideologue, has spent 40 years successfully in the workforce and has travelled a lot, and he enthusiastically (if not passionately) believes that despite hurdles, it is reasonable to continue to encourage muslim migration to Australia, tackling any challenges that arise, because we have a great society and principles which (i guess) are most profoundly expressed in our commitment to peaceful and prosperous diversity. Now i can see how a case can be made and as a (british) migrant himself i can see why its an appealling narrative but its such a grossly irresponsible assumption to base the future demographics of our country on. But hey, hes retired, owns property in a good part of inner sydney and is more likely to talk to a muslim in turkey than south western sydney.

    What can i do? Its a generation gap thing.....although to be fair one of his little retirement hobbies is being an envigilator for exams at the local University and he relishes in confronting, embarrassing and reporting the sleazy cheating chinese students who are slowly ruining it....

    bah, i just turned 30 i shouldnt be this grumpy yet, thanks a lot alt-right blogs
  22. @Anonymous
    The way you guys think is so out of step with the mainstream it is sad....

    You guys really need to get out of your echo chamber

    Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Sean, @FactsAreImportant, @carol, @Brutusale, @Alfa158, @Reg Cæsar, @Olorin, @BigRedEyeOfJupiter

    Which mainstream is that? The one that just this morning told me that race is an artificial construct, but that only black teachers should teach black kids?

  23. Cryptogenic [AKA "Mr. Zeepie"] says:

    In keeping with George Orwell’s dictum about restating the obvious: why the fuck should the “suffering” of distant, backwards nations be a concern of mine? At all? To any degree? Ever?

    Country A is a hellhole because it is populated with demographic X. Country B is civilized because it is populated with demographic Y. When population X moves to country B, they don’t absorb the qualities of population Y or enhance it in any way. They turn country B into country A.

    Discuss.

    • Agree: Brutusale
  24. @Harry Baldwin
    @Dennis Dale

    This comes to mind when I see the European crowds serenading the “refugees”, some of whom appear dumbfounded (what must they think?). It makes you want to cry. Shame on us.

    It makes me think of an updated version of the Lord of the Rings in which Galadriel opens Lothlórien to the orcs and gets married to an Uruk-hai. Check your privilege, elves!

    Replies: @Vendetta

    Was actually the Elves who became the boat people at the end of the movies though. Perhaps that’s the ultimate vision of some of these progressives….the beautiful good people sail away to paradise and nowhere and leave the earth behind to their lesser peoples.

  25. Why accept large numbers of refugees, or for that matters, any refugees? Why let in Cubans and not Haitians?

    One principle is that if people are allies who “took in on the chin” for us, say, in a larger war we fought to contain Communism. The Vietnam Boat People along with the Hmong come to mind and maybe the Cuban refugees.

    Another principle is that the refugees are somehow believed to be compatible with the host society if they are freed from the homicidal dictator they are fleeing. In Russia, Cuba, the Levant, we are talking about Second World countries that would be First World, could be First World based on the culture of the people if they weren’t stuck under a homicidal Socialist dictator?

    A third principle is that the refugees are all grateful for being taken in and get all patriotic and enthusiastic about assimilation. If they live in an enclave for mutual support to get established, I suppose that is OK, but they don’t take offense that if it is expected that if not they that their children should be fluent in the language of their host country and at least have a passing understanding of sports loyalties.

    Could it be said that the Vietnamese met these criteria, that we gave harbor to our allies in a war that turned out not well for them in what they did for us, that they have the Confucian ethnic that is quite compatible with our Protestant-ethic forebears, and have generally assimilated? OK, maybe the Hmong have not assimilated as smoothly and their remains social friction and misunderstanding, but I do not know the Hmong to have a sense of entitlement that they should not assimilate, and a considerable debt is owed to them as a military ally who was suffered for that?

    Cubans? Hey, they are our best shot of Republicans/Conservatives getting Florida’s electoral votes? Many have been totally enthusiastic anti-Communists. (non far-eastern) Asians? Perhaps among our better educated and achieving immigrant/minority group, but then the immigration has been selected of the skilled and educated?

    Syrian refugees? Lester Holt was showing the big-eyed stares of Levantine children that this is supposed to sway us to the correct thinking on this matter. Is that cute kid going to grow up to be an Electrical Engineer or into an entitled street-tough? Or a mix of both?

    • Replies: @AnAnon
    @Inquiring Mind

    The Hmong were the ethnic enemy of our "enemy". Now that we've brought them here, they have a new ethnic enemy: us. That is how the world works.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Inquiring Mind


    Is that cute kid going to grow up to be an Electrical Engineer or into an entitled street-tough? Or a mix of both?
     
    Yes. An Elector.

    Replies: @Ivy

  26. @Dennis Dale
    I've seen this juxtaposing of white and black flash mobs on YouTube before ("white v black flash mobs" linked at the end of the second video above is downright heartbreaking, placing an amazing video of a flash performance in Spain of "Ode to Joy" alongside one of the usual black mayhem; I don't expect people to hate blacks because of it--myself I've gone beyond fear and loathing to a blank, dumbfounded state; it simply Does Not Compute--but why, how, can we still hate ourselves, after such knowledge?) and have found myself fantasizing grimly about one of the gentle white versions getting crashed by one of the black versions. One of those food-court choirs proceeding along and all of a sudden comes stomping through a mob of gleefully violent youths, say. A Cleon Peterson work come to life, only slightly less gruesome. This comes to mind when I see the European crowds serenading the "refugees", some of whom appear dumbfounded (what must they think?). It makes you want to cry. Shame on us.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Erik Sieven, @vinteuil

    I do not feel sorry for those who seem to be dumbfounded or naive. They know what they are cheering for, that´s why they do it. Trying to stop them is like trying to stop someone who is into SM-practices.

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    @Erik Sieven

    I meant "dumbfounded" refugees, but yeah, just trying to understand these Europeans is like trying to make sense of "furries" and other bizarre fetishists.

  27. What is likely to happen is nothing good. Europe has about 1% annual growth in good times, unemployment is over 12% in real terms and youth unemployment is even higher. Only massive social spending has kept the lid on and most nations are in recession and have been for years. Germany is now suffering under massive export declines as China shudders into its own recession.

    In short, Germany has a LOT of social obligations and spending, a pattern seen right from the Bismarckian start in the unified state, to keep the peace and unification among peoples with their own strong, regional and separatist identitites. Adenauer during the Weimar Republic advocated secession for the Rhineland, for which he was thrown in a prison camp by the Nazis.

    NOW every spare Euro will go not to natives but to Muslims. Who will in addition have special rules. No obeying Gay Marriage laws for them, or restrictions on hate speech, or demands to obey the law. If ordinary (White men mostly) people in the US chafe at Illegal and Black exemptions from ordinary laws, imagine the orderly Germans seeing that they have an objectively lower status as not only do Muslims get all the welfare spending while they get none, but the Muslims have no obligation to obey the laws save the big ones, and then only after responding to terrorist actions.

    Germany had a Thirty Years War. I expect the next one to last more than two hundred years. Characterized by endless manpower from the Third World seeking to invade Europe and get stuff and dominate (and take the women, said women being happy at the prospect let us not delude ourselves) countered by endless adaptation of newer technology: killer drones and autonomous robots, genetic engineering in all its hideous aspects, and so on.

    I would rather not, but Frau Merkel had to have her feelz.

    Australia is btw, set to elect Labor who promise Open Borders. So there’s that. Feelz before all.

  28. @Inquiring Mind
    Why accept large numbers of refugees, or for that matters, any refugees? Why let in Cubans and not Haitians?

    One principle is that if people are allies who "took in on the chin" for us, say, in a larger war we fought to contain Communism. The Vietnam Boat People along with the Hmong come to mind and maybe the Cuban refugees.

    Another principle is that the refugees are somehow believed to be compatible with the host society if they are freed from the homicidal dictator they are fleeing. In Russia, Cuba, the Levant, we are talking about Second World countries that would be First World, could be First World based on the culture of the people if they weren't stuck under a homicidal Socialist dictator?

    A third principle is that the refugees are all grateful for being taken in and get all patriotic and enthusiastic about assimilation. If they live in an enclave for mutual support to get established, I suppose that is OK, but they don't take offense that if it is expected that if not they that their children should be fluent in the language of their host country and at least have a passing understanding of sports loyalties.

    Could it be said that the Vietnamese met these criteria, that we gave harbor to our allies in a war that turned out not well for them in what they did for us, that they have the Confucian ethnic that is quite compatible with our Protestant-ethic forebears, and have generally assimilated? OK, maybe the Hmong have not assimilated as smoothly and their remains social friction and misunderstanding, but I do not know the Hmong to have a sense of entitlement that they should not assimilate, and a considerable debt is owed to them as a military ally who was suffered for that?

    Cubans? Hey, they are our best shot of Republicans/Conservatives getting Florida's electoral votes? Many have been totally enthusiastic anti-Communists. (non far-eastern) Asians? Perhaps among our better educated and achieving immigrant/minority group, but then the immigration has been selected of the skilled and educated?

    Syrian refugees? Lester Holt was showing the big-eyed stares of Levantine children that this is supposed to sway us to the correct thinking on this matter. Is that cute kid going to grow up to be an Electrical Engineer or into an entitled street-tough? Or a mix of both?

    Replies: @AnAnon, @Reg Cæsar

    The Hmong were the ethnic enemy of our “enemy”. Now that we’ve brought them here, they have a new ethnic enemy: us. That is how the world works.

  29. @Mark Minter
    I am sort of clueless about what goes one outside of the alt-right web community. I have no cable. I little contact with people not a part of "our thing". So I can't say how exactly this is affecting the greater public in America. I am sure it has to be a boon for Trump. I hope it is scaring the crap out of Americans.

    But I must say that our writers have really stepped up. The level and quality of things produced is as high as I have ever read in this community. The only other time that it was this good was back in Haven Montana days. This linkage of HBD and psychological makeup that emerged from so many quarters, I think has pushed the whole idea of genes rule/blank slate drools into a whole new realm of quality writing, giving many of us very good references for future fights.

    Replies: @WowJustWow, @Buzz Mohawk

    From what little I’ve seen, Trump hasn’t benefited, because the only topic getting any coverage these days is Trump.

    So maybe that means he has benefited from it not being covered.

  30. @Dennis Dale
    I've seen this juxtaposing of white and black flash mobs on YouTube before ("white v black flash mobs" linked at the end of the second video above is downright heartbreaking, placing an amazing video of a flash performance in Spain of "Ode to Joy" alongside one of the usual black mayhem; I don't expect people to hate blacks because of it--myself I've gone beyond fear and loathing to a blank, dumbfounded state; it simply Does Not Compute--but why, how, can we still hate ourselves, after such knowledge?) and have found myself fantasizing grimly about one of the gentle white versions getting crashed by one of the black versions. One of those food-court choirs proceeding along and all of a sudden comes stomping through a mob of gleefully violent youths, say. A Cleon Peterson work come to life, only slightly less gruesome. This comes to mind when I see the European crowds serenading the "refugees", some of whom appear dumbfounded (what must they think?). It makes you want to cry. Shame on us.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Erik Sieven, @vinteuil

    “…an amazing video of a flash performance in Spain of ‘Ode to Joy’” –

    Yes, it’s quite touching:

    The sad irony is that Beethoven/Schiller’s “Ode an die Freude” has been adopted as the anthem of the European Union – perhaps the ultimate expression of the silly, naïve, doomed hope that “Alle Menschen werden Brüder.”

    The genius of The West, and its folly, summed up in one simple, unforgettable tune.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    @vinteuil

    Well, OK, so how does one embed a YouTube video in ones comment, here?

    I tried copying & pasting the YouTube embed code for this wonderful video...

    But, when I posted, it simply disappeared.

    Can anybody please explain this?

    skiapolemistis: you are constantly embedding YouTube videos in your comments. Are you by any chance willing to explain how you do this?

    , @Dennis Dale
    @vinteuil

    You're right; I see at the core of this Northern European insanity an egoistic, anti-rational, very German romanticism. It's ironic the destroyers of Europe adopt the mantle of the Enlightenment.

  31. It’s not a flash mob they are fleeing very real wars in Afghanistan and Syria and Iraq Somalia …… The refugees were filling up places like Lebanon and Turkey by the millions. When those places filled up the refugees flowed into Europe. No flash anything this is a process going on for 4 years now.

    Imaginative leadership could end the wars and rebuild the countries so the refugees can return. If you do not support peace and reconstruction then you support resettling the migrants in Europe and beyond. 2 choices pick one.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    @George

    "Imaginative leadership could end the wars and rebuild the countries so the refugees can return."

    Well, yeah, indeed. Where is Lord Cromer when he's needed?

    Dead, these hundred years, alas.

    , @Discard
    @George

    George, there are more than two choices.

    , @5371
    @George

    There's nothing to choose. The west's rulers are criminal in permitting and supporting the jihadist war against Syria, and criminal in permitting and supporting the immigration invasion of their own countries.

    , @Olorin
    @George

    Jesus Easter Bunny with a chocolate cross, of course it's a flash mob.

    If they are "fleeing very real wars," they why aren't they stopping at the adjoining thick buffer of nations/states where there's no war at all?

    They are going to where the looting is best, just as the Zuckerbergs of the world intend.

    Do you really think these hordes are going to contribute ANYTHING to the societies they are invading? I mean, other than allowing the globalizers to further erode First World wages and what remains of organized labor?

    That is the whole damn point--to bust the working class in the North, which was smart, tough, and organized enough to demand a share of the wealth their productivity creates.

    Everybody else is just parasitizing.

    It has nothing to do with war. It has everything to do with globalist mercantilism...and its ongoing war on northern Europe's indigenous people.

    Which has been going on for over two millennia, in case you haven't noticed, and apparently you haven't.

    What's going to happen is that these "advanced"-people for-their-societies are going to get to the north and realize they have no hope whatever of living within, never mind thriving within, the plus-one-standard deviation/modern genome Europeans who thrive all around them. They will bring nothing but more victimization, more demands, and erosion of everything around them. And they will take it out on those who CAN create those societies and HAVE created them everywhere they go.

    You cannot have a First World society with Third World people any more than you can graze prize-winning livestock on garbage dumps.

    Replies: @CJ

    , @Chase
    @George

    I choose neither. There is vast amounts of suffering across the globe; in fact it is the general human condition.

    I choose a wall mounted with machine guns. Your choice: certain death if you cross, or attempt to rebuild your own god damned country. Countless die every day. Just because The Eye chooses to focus on this or that as its gaze wanders the globe does not mean those deaths are inherently more worthy than any others and certainly doesn't justify our ongoing demographic suicide.

    , @Bill Jones
    @George

    None of the above. Enforce border controls.

    , @JSM
    @George

    None of the above. Eject the invaders. If their lives back in Somalia ain't worth a plugged nickel, I file it under Not My Problem.

  32. @Priss Factor
    Europeans need to flash-mob their governments and remove all the leaders who called for war and intervention in the Middle East and North Africa.
    And Merkel needs to be removed now.

    Well, at least Gadfly got the last laugh. He deserves it given what the West did to his country.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLvirwPClas

    https://youtu.be/RAapNGRfaBI?t=18s

    Replies: @WowJustWow

    “Europeans need to flash-mob their governments and remove all the leaders who called for war and intervention in the Middle East and North Africa.”

    Then you’d just look like a bunch of lame fascists. It would be far more effective to persuade some migrants to pitch their tents in the wings of your country’s parliamentary buildings, and in the front yards of celebrities’ houses.

  33. @MLK
    There is too much focus by everyone on how It Is Different This Time. Along with reductionist justifications and explanations in the form of ideology (e.g. Humanitarianism; Cultural Marxism...).

    It is usually more enlightening to identify historical analogues, as you and others have attempted to do in previous postings and comments. Though different ones then I have. The 1980 Mariel Boat Lift is worth considering because the ideological overlay was the reverse of today. Just as Merkel got her tit caught in a wringer that is Left Humanitarianism, Carter did with the then Right version, Anti-Communist Humanitarianism.

    Therein lies the problem when authorities play around with the ideological thingie. Mariel contributed in no small part to Carter losing in November, 1980, even though he was On The Side Of The Angels at that time. As a pre-election indication of his political genius, Reagan mumbled a vague criticism of Carter's handling of the crisis six months before the election, and then let the President reap what he had sown from his Anti-Communist Humanitarianism.

    Much is made of the disingenuousness of elected officials. But the same is enduringly present among the citizenry, except for the reckless ideologues of any particular era. The salient difference is that those who are not in authority get to retcon. In other words, even though Carter was in tune with the reigning anti-Communist humanitarianism at the time, he was held accountable -- and lost to the seemingly Real Deal, Mr. Twilight Struggle -- because he got it wrong. He got us wrong.

    We don't just expect but we insist that our elected officials say one thing and do another. To put a finer point on it, in instances such as this, we only trust them when we are confident they don't really mean it when they spout the platitudes.

    Thus of course until it came a cropper Germans wanted to be Good Germans, and not because they were under the spell of Cultural Marxists. They expected, in effect, Merkel not to take them seriously. The same coin, though opposite side, is the case with Orban and Hungarians. They want him to mouth the hard truths -- principles in defense of the European Project as originally conceived and hoped -- but not get all Medieval on the migrants.

    Replies: @chris in sydney

    Much is made of the disingenuousness of elected officials. But the same is enduringly present among the citizenry, except for the reckless ideologues of any particular era.

    So true. Got stuck into this with my baby boomer dad. He is no leftist ideologue, has spent 40 years successfully in the workforce and has travelled a lot, and he enthusiastically (if not passionately) believes that despite hurdles, it is reasonable to continue to encourage muslim migration to Australia, tackling any challenges that arise, because we have a great society and principles which (i guess) are most profoundly expressed in our commitment to peaceful and prosperous diversity. Now i can see how a case can be made and as a (british) migrant himself i can see why its an appealling narrative but its such a grossly irresponsible assumption to base the future demographics of our country on. But hey, hes retired, owns property in a good part of inner sydney and is more likely to talk to a muslim in turkey than south western sydney.

    What can i do? Its a generation gap thing…..although to be fair one of his little retirement hobbies is being an envigilator for exams at the local University and he relishes in confronting, embarrassing and reporting the sleazy cheating chinese students who are slowly ruining it….

    bah, i just turned 30 i shouldnt be this grumpy yet, thanks a lot alt-right blogs

  34. @Anonymous
    The way you guys think is so out of step with the mainstream it is sad....

    You guys really need to get out of your echo chamber

    Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Sean, @FactsAreImportant, @carol, @Brutusale, @Alfa158, @Reg Cæsar, @Olorin, @BigRedEyeOfJupiter

    When the mainstream is run by poltroons, knaves and imbeciles, being out of step is a feature not a bug. We are also out of step with that herd of cattle stampeding off a cliff.

  35. @Erik Sieven
    @Dennis Dale

    I do not feel sorry for those who seem to be dumbfounded or naive. They know what they are cheering for, that´s why they do it. Trying to stop them is like trying to stop someone who is into SM-practices.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale

    I meant “dumbfounded” refugees, but yeah, just trying to understand these Europeans is like trying to make sense of “furries” and other bizarre fetishists.

  36. @vinteuil
    @Dennis Dale

    "...an amazing video of a flash performance in Spain of 'Ode to Joy'" -

    Yes, it's quite touching:



    The sad irony is that Beethoven/Schiller's "Ode an die Freude" has been adopted as the anthem of the European Union - perhaps the ultimate expression of the silly, naïve, doomed hope that "Alle Menschen werden Brüder."

    The genius of The West, and its folly, summed up in one simple, unforgettable tune.

    Replies: @vinteuil, @Dennis Dale

    Well, OK, so how does one embed a YouTube video in ones comment, here?

    I tried copying & pasting the YouTube embed code for this wonderful video…

    But, when I posted, it simply disappeared.

    Can anybody please explain this?

    skiapolemistis: you are constantly embedding YouTube videos in your comments. Are you by any chance willing to explain how you do this?

  37. @Inquiring Mind
    Why accept large numbers of refugees, or for that matters, any refugees? Why let in Cubans and not Haitians?

    One principle is that if people are allies who "took in on the chin" for us, say, in a larger war we fought to contain Communism. The Vietnam Boat People along with the Hmong come to mind and maybe the Cuban refugees.

    Another principle is that the refugees are somehow believed to be compatible with the host society if they are freed from the homicidal dictator they are fleeing. In Russia, Cuba, the Levant, we are talking about Second World countries that would be First World, could be First World based on the culture of the people if they weren't stuck under a homicidal Socialist dictator?

    A third principle is that the refugees are all grateful for being taken in and get all patriotic and enthusiastic about assimilation. If they live in an enclave for mutual support to get established, I suppose that is OK, but they don't take offense that if it is expected that if not they that their children should be fluent in the language of their host country and at least have a passing understanding of sports loyalties.

    Could it be said that the Vietnamese met these criteria, that we gave harbor to our allies in a war that turned out not well for them in what they did for us, that they have the Confucian ethnic that is quite compatible with our Protestant-ethic forebears, and have generally assimilated? OK, maybe the Hmong have not assimilated as smoothly and their remains social friction and misunderstanding, but I do not know the Hmong to have a sense of entitlement that they should not assimilate, and a considerable debt is owed to them as a military ally who was suffered for that?

    Cubans? Hey, they are our best shot of Republicans/Conservatives getting Florida's electoral votes? Many have been totally enthusiastic anti-Communists. (non far-eastern) Asians? Perhaps among our better educated and achieving immigrant/minority group, but then the immigration has been selected of the skilled and educated?

    Syrian refugees? Lester Holt was showing the big-eyed stares of Levantine children that this is supposed to sway us to the correct thinking on this matter. Is that cute kid going to grow up to be an Electrical Engineer or into an entitled street-tough? Or a mix of both?

    Replies: @AnAnon, @Reg Cæsar

    Is that cute kid going to grow up to be an Electrical Engineer or into an entitled street-tough? Or a mix of both?

    Yes. An Elector.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    @Reg Cæsar

    An Elector for the new UnHoly-UnRoman-UnEmpire

  38. @Anonymous
    The way you guys think is so out of step with the mainstream it is sad....

    You guys really need to get out of your echo chamber

    Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Sean, @FactsAreImportant, @carol, @Brutusale, @Alfa158, @Reg Cæsar, @Olorin, @BigRedEyeOfJupiter

    You guys really need to get out of your echo chamber

    Sure, we’ll go troll your site.

    But you didn’t list it. When you do, Unz will put a nice blue “Website” next to your screen handle.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Reg Cæsar


    Sure, we’ll go troll your site.

    But you didn’t list it. When you do, Unz will put a nice blue “Website” next to your screen handle.
     
    That was well-played.
  39. @George
    It's not a flash mob they are fleeing very real wars in Afghanistan and Syria and Iraq Somalia ...... The refugees were filling up places like Lebanon and Turkey by the millions. When those places filled up the refugees flowed into Europe. No flash anything this is a process going on for 4 years now.

    Imaginative leadership could end the wars and rebuild the countries so the refugees can return. If you do not support peace and reconstruction then you support resettling the migrants in Europe and beyond. 2 choices pick one.

    Replies: @vinteuil, @Discard, @5371, @Olorin, @Chase, @Bill Jones, @JSM

    “Imaginative leadership could end the wars and rebuild the countries so the refugees can return.”

    Well, yeah, indeed. Where is Lord Cromer when he’s needed?

    Dead, these hundred years, alas.

  40. @George
    It's not a flash mob they are fleeing very real wars in Afghanistan and Syria and Iraq Somalia ...... The refugees were filling up places like Lebanon and Turkey by the millions. When those places filled up the refugees flowed into Europe. No flash anything this is a process going on for 4 years now.

    Imaginative leadership could end the wars and rebuild the countries so the refugees can return. If you do not support peace and reconstruction then you support resettling the migrants in Europe and beyond. 2 choices pick one.

    Replies: @vinteuil, @Discard, @5371, @Olorin, @Chase, @Bill Jones, @JSM

    George, there are more than two choices.

  41. @Anonymous
    The way you guys think is so out of step with the mainstream it is sad....

    You guys really need to get out of your echo chamber

    Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Sean, @FactsAreImportant, @carol, @Brutusale, @Alfa158, @Reg Cæsar, @Olorin, @BigRedEyeOfJupiter

    I nominate Bijou’s devastating critique for the New Yorker’s ongoing marginal feature, “Block that Metaphor!”

    Thinking out of step with a mainstream in an echo chamber.

    Damn. That’s practically satori-bait in its numbnuttery.

    Except I get from it a whiff of one of those Ford Foundation or Rockefeller Brothers interns whose “project” it is to troll sites like this one, and practice PR espionage. In hopes of getting paid after graduating with a Studies Studies degree by the 1% to revile regular people as non-mainstream in the name of reviling the 1%.

    Hm. Maybe it’s satori-bait after all.

  42. @George
    It's not a flash mob they are fleeing very real wars in Afghanistan and Syria and Iraq Somalia ...... The refugees were filling up places like Lebanon and Turkey by the millions. When those places filled up the refugees flowed into Europe. No flash anything this is a process going on for 4 years now.

    Imaginative leadership could end the wars and rebuild the countries so the refugees can return. If you do not support peace and reconstruction then you support resettling the migrants in Europe and beyond. 2 choices pick one.

    Replies: @vinteuil, @Discard, @5371, @Olorin, @Chase, @Bill Jones, @JSM

    There’s nothing to choose. The west’s rulers are criminal in permitting and supporting the jihadist war against Syria, and criminal in permitting and supporting the immigration invasion of their own countries.

  43. @George
    It's not a flash mob they are fleeing very real wars in Afghanistan and Syria and Iraq Somalia ...... The refugees were filling up places like Lebanon and Turkey by the millions. When those places filled up the refugees flowed into Europe. No flash anything this is a process going on for 4 years now.

    Imaginative leadership could end the wars and rebuild the countries so the refugees can return. If you do not support peace and reconstruction then you support resettling the migrants in Europe and beyond. 2 choices pick one.

    Replies: @vinteuil, @Discard, @5371, @Olorin, @Chase, @Bill Jones, @JSM

    Jesus Easter Bunny with a chocolate cross, of course it’s a flash mob.

    If they are “fleeing very real wars,” they why aren’t they stopping at the adjoining thick buffer of nations/states where there’s no war at all?

    They are going to where the looting is best, just as the Zuckerbergs of the world intend.

    Do you really think these hordes are going to contribute ANYTHING to the societies they are invading? I mean, other than allowing the globalizers to further erode First World wages and what remains of organized labor?

    That is the whole damn point–to bust the working class in the North, which was smart, tough, and organized enough to demand a share of the wealth their productivity creates.

    Everybody else is just parasitizing.

    It has nothing to do with war. It has everything to do with globalist mercantilism…and its ongoing war on northern Europe’s indigenous people.

    Which has been going on for over two millennia, in case you haven’t noticed, and apparently you haven’t.

    What’s going to happen is that these “advanced”-people for-their-societies are going to get to the north and realize they have no hope whatever of living within, never mind thriving within, the plus-one-standard deviation/modern genome Europeans who thrive all around them. They will bring nothing but more victimization, more demands, and erosion of everything around them. And they will take it out on those who CAN create those societies and HAVE created them everywhere they go.

    You cannot have a First World society with Third World people any more than you can graze prize-winning livestock on garbage dumps.

    • Replies: @CJ
    @Olorin

    What’s going to happen is that these “advanced”-people for-their-societies are going to get to the north and realize they have no hope whatever of living within, never mind thriving within, the plus-one-standard deviation/modern genome Europeans who thrive all around them.

    An underappreciated point. People who are clearly not rocket scientists are nonetheless savvy enough to know that they and their relatives are never going to become rocket scientists. My only argument with you would be that lots of people understand this before they ever get to "the north".

    Replies: @Olorin

  44. @Anonymous
    The way you guys think is so out of step with the mainstream it is sad....

    You guys really need to get out of your echo chamber

    Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Sean, @FactsAreImportant, @carol, @Brutusale, @Alfa158, @Reg Cæsar, @Olorin, @BigRedEyeOfJupiter

    Its sadly true that we are out of step with the mainstream, and yet on EVERY political issue from the odd criminal cases the media promotes, to the wars, to this current migrant influx, the alt right has been, well, right in its predictions and initial analysis. With the wider public and those in power grudgingly following along at a later date and rarely learning anything.

  45. @vinteuil
    @Dennis Dale

    "...an amazing video of a flash performance in Spain of 'Ode to Joy'" -

    Yes, it's quite touching:



    The sad irony is that Beethoven/Schiller's "Ode an die Freude" has been adopted as the anthem of the European Union - perhaps the ultimate expression of the silly, naïve, doomed hope that "Alle Menschen werden Brüder."

    The genius of The West, and its folly, summed up in one simple, unforgettable tune.

    Replies: @vinteuil, @Dennis Dale

    You’re right; I see at the core of this Northern European insanity an egoistic, anti-rational, very German romanticism. It’s ironic the destroyers of Europe adopt the mantle of the Enlightenment.

  46. @Reg Cæsar
    @Inquiring Mind


    Is that cute kid going to grow up to be an Electrical Engineer or into an entitled street-tough? Or a mix of both?
     
    Yes. An Elector.

    Replies: @Ivy

    An Elector for the new UnHoly-UnRoman-UnEmpire

  47. The mostly muted and partly enthusiastic reaction of white Europeans to their demographic replacement is a result of 50 years of media manipulation.

    Obviously.

  48. The mainstream is a media construct created by censoring all data that contradicts the desired media narrative.

    • Agree: Ozymandias
  49. @George
    It's not a flash mob they are fleeing very real wars in Afghanistan and Syria and Iraq Somalia ...... The refugees were filling up places like Lebanon and Turkey by the millions. When those places filled up the refugees flowed into Europe. No flash anything this is a process going on for 4 years now.

    Imaginative leadership could end the wars and rebuild the countries so the refugees can return. If you do not support peace and reconstruction then you support resettling the migrants in Europe and beyond. 2 choices pick one.

    Replies: @vinteuil, @Discard, @5371, @Olorin, @Chase, @Bill Jones, @JSM

    I choose neither. There is vast amounts of suffering across the globe; in fact it is the general human condition.

    I choose a wall mounted with machine guns. Your choice: certain death if you cross, or attempt to rebuild your own god damned country. Countless die every day. Just because The Eye chooses to focus on this or that as its gaze wanders the globe does not mean those deaths are inherently more worthy than any others and certainly doesn’t justify our ongoing demographic suicide.

  50. The way you guys think is so out of step with the mainstream it is sad….

    You guys really need to get out of your echo chamber

    That would make a great caption for a political cartoon; the Euro masses can say it (while holding guns in their mouths or heading en masse over a cliff) to the sane Euro minority (maybe with some chains linking the two groups together by the ankles).

  51. @Big Bill
    If 20 people flood a store to rob it they must have conspired. Aren't their state conspiracy laws they can use? IIRC, Under federal law, if two people "conspire" to commit a misdemeanor they can be charged with felony conspiracy.

    Replies: @ben tillman, @Bill Jones, @G Pinfold

    If 20 people flood a store to rob it they must have conspired. Aren’t their state conspiracy laws they can use? IIRC, Under federal law, if two people “conspire” to commit a misdemeanor they can be charged with felony conspiracy.

    Believe it or not that’s exactly what I was thinking.

  52. @Big Bill
    If 20 people flood a store to rob it they must have conspired. Aren't their state conspiracy laws they can use? IIRC, Under federal law, if two people "conspire" to commit a misdemeanor they can be charged with felony conspiracy.

    Replies: @ben tillman, @Bill Jones, @G Pinfold

    Pick up one, get his phones and you’ve got the rest

  53. @George
    It's not a flash mob they are fleeing very real wars in Afghanistan and Syria and Iraq Somalia ...... The refugees were filling up places like Lebanon and Turkey by the millions. When those places filled up the refugees flowed into Europe. No flash anything this is a process going on for 4 years now.

    Imaginative leadership could end the wars and rebuild the countries so the refugees can return. If you do not support peace and reconstruction then you support resettling the migrants in Europe and beyond. 2 choices pick one.

    Replies: @vinteuil, @Discard, @5371, @Olorin, @Chase, @Bill Jones, @JSM

    None of the above. Enforce border controls.

  54. @Big Bill
    If 20 people flood a store to rob it they must have conspired. Aren't their state conspiracy laws they can use? IIRC, Under federal law, if two people "conspire" to commit a misdemeanor they can be charged with felony conspiracy.

    Replies: @ben tillman, @Bill Jones, @G Pinfold

    De minimus non curat lex – The law does not concern itself with trifling matters… oh wait, unless they be micro-aggressions. That’s different.

    But the reality is that our laws were made for men of substance. These non-burghers, like the illegals with immunity from traffic offences in Steve’s recent post, are effectively beneath the law.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @G Pinfold

    deleted

  55. @Olorin
    @George

    Jesus Easter Bunny with a chocolate cross, of course it's a flash mob.

    If they are "fleeing very real wars," they why aren't they stopping at the adjoining thick buffer of nations/states where there's no war at all?

    They are going to where the looting is best, just as the Zuckerbergs of the world intend.

    Do you really think these hordes are going to contribute ANYTHING to the societies they are invading? I mean, other than allowing the globalizers to further erode First World wages and what remains of organized labor?

    That is the whole damn point--to bust the working class in the North, which was smart, tough, and organized enough to demand a share of the wealth their productivity creates.

    Everybody else is just parasitizing.

    It has nothing to do with war. It has everything to do with globalist mercantilism...and its ongoing war on northern Europe's indigenous people.

    Which has been going on for over two millennia, in case you haven't noticed, and apparently you haven't.

    What's going to happen is that these "advanced"-people for-their-societies are going to get to the north and realize they have no hope whatever of living within, never mind thriving within, the plus-one-standard deviation/modern genome Europeans who thrive all around them. They will bring nothing but more victimization, more demands, and erosion of everything around them. And they will take it out on those who CAN create those societies and HAVE created them everywhere they go.

    You cannot have a First World society with Third World people any more than you can graze prize-winning livestock on garbage dumps.

    Replies: @CJ

    What’s going to happen is that these “advanced”-people for-their-societies are going to get to the north and realize they have no hope whatever of living within, never mind thriving within, the plus-one-standard deviation/modern genome Europeans who thrive all around them.

    An underappreciated point. People who are clearly not rocket scientists are nonetheless savvy enough to know that they and their relatives are never going to become rocket scientists. My only argument with you would be that lots of people understand this before they ever get to “the north”.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    @CJ

    No, actually I agree with you.

    It's more than IQ--there's an entire panoply of genetic capacities for things like future orientation, common-good-mindedness, and so on. People who lack anything but consumerist greed for whatever the mercantile and infotainment masters wave in front of their noses--well, they aren't going to like it when they realize that, whatever society they go to, they're going to be failures. That was all settled by mom's and dad's home genetics experiment.

    But since they're being told they DESERVE all that stuff, created by others out of others' sweat and blood, they will demand it. Surely some, or many, or even most, understand that...or to put it more genetically precisely are whiffing weakness as they surge in. Ascending through bullying, threats, and grievance, is something well within their retinue of capacities. Being blessedly spared the promethean (or maybe cassandran) capacity for forethought means they don't look ahead very far.

    We do have some experience of this ochlocratic tide of Gimmee in the US, as Mr. Sailer noted the other day in his posting referencing Scarface...and of course the Church of Latter Day Saints Skittles and Swisher and the St. Lead-Chip-Communion.

    Even more unsettling is my sense is that the people who best understand that Rocket Science is genetically apportioned, themselves are well positioned, are not able to do Rocket Science, can at best aspire to mercantile or infotainment industry riches (skimming profits off the demos), and will use their envy to destroy what they cannot create...and those who create it.

    From an HBD perspective, this is basic population genetics.

    Demographic segregation--aka island biogeography with controlled interbreeding--is the only way to conserve the genes that created the societies the entire world wants to live in, though cannot create. I doubt the demos has any taste for it, and neither do those who have risen to great wealth and power on their domestication of the demos as sheep.

  56. @George
    It's not a flash mob they are fleeing very real wars in Afghanistan and Syria and Iraq Somalia ...... The refugees were filling up places like Lebanon and Turkey by the millions. When those places filled up the refugees flowed into Europe. No flash anything this is a process going on for 4 years now.

    Imaginative leadership could end the wars and rebuild the countries so the refugees can return. If you do not support peace and reconstruction then you support resettling the migrants in Europe and beyond. 2 choices pick one.

    Replies: @vinteuil, @Discard, @5371, @Olorin, @Chase, @Bill Jones, @JSM

    None of the above. Eject the invaders. If their lives back in Somalia ain’t worth a plugged nickel, I file it under Not My Problem.

  57. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    You guys really need to get out of your echo chamber

     

    Sure, we'll go troll your site.

    But you didn't list it. When you do, Unz will put a nice blue "Website" next to your screen handle.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    Sure, we’ll go troll your site.

    But you didn’t list it. When you do, Unz will put a nice blue “Website” next to your screen handle.

    That was well-played.

  58. @G Pinfold
    @Big Bill

    De minimus non curat lex - The law does not concern itself with trifling matters... oh wait, unless they be micro-aggressions. That's different.

    But the reality is that our laws were made for men of substance. These non-burghers, like the illegals with immunity from traffic offences in Steve's recent post, are effectively beneath the law.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    deleted

  59. @Mustela Mendax
    Not a one of the Hallelujah Chorus audience stood up - they just stayed on their fat butts, mostly with sullen, bored expressions. None of them knew the tradition, or if any of them did, they couldn't care less. No honor is to be given to the majesty of their religion nor the beauty of its music. That's my takeaway from the clip. The continuing obliteration of our culture is nothing but the filling of a vacuum.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    Not a one of the Hallelujah Chorus audience stood up – they just stayed on their fat butts, mostly with sullen, bored expressions. None of them knew the tradition, or if any of them did, they couldn’t care less. No honor is to be given to the majesty of their religion nor the beauty of its music. That’s my takeaway from the clip. The continuing obliteration of our culture is nothing but the filling of a vacuum.

    This is a trenchant observation. The facet of the postmodern western societies I find most contemptible and infuriating is the gross, rank ingratitude: so many who dismiss the glories of classical music — it’s boring!; the soaring beauty of cathedrals — they’re damp and musty!; the profundity, range, and depth of the literary canon — just stale pale males with nothing to say to me!

    I feel the years slipping by me, and know I’m running out of time trying to get to know one-tenth — one percent! — of this tradition, while the ‘mainstream’ at best ignores it, i.e. when they can’t be bothered to piss all over it. This tempts me to despair more than anything else these days . . . .

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    It is indeed dire. When I see that those who are so forthrightly for the demolition of the West are the educated and intelligent, those most likely to know and even appreciate the value of Western classical traditions, the few who still turn out for such as a classical concert, I don't know what to make of it.
    I guess they're confident the museums and concert halls will remain, worthy literature will appear and public spaces will be maintained, despite the certainty welfare programs will consume more and more public money and that portion of the voting population that is either indifferent or hostile to our legacy culture--already unable to compete commercially--will just keep growing. Are the oligarchs going to finance publicly available higher culture through private donations, or take everything private, behind the security gates of their wealthy communities? I can envision museums, for instance, closing down, selling their works to private collectors and becoming public housing. Concert halls converted to venues for increasingly awful popular music.

    So it's up to us proles to defend Western culture, and for it we're denigrated as slack-jawed losers. What in the f--- gives? I will not be called a loser by such short-sighted, craven...losers. We need a better class of the higher class.

    , @Beach
    @The Last Real Calvinist


    so many who dismiss the glories of classical music — it’s boring!; the soaring beauty of cathedrals — they’re damp and musty!; the profundity, range, and depth of the literary canon — just stale pale males with nothing to say to me!
     
    You are romanticizing the past if you believe that it was not ever thus. The peasants who knew the king was the king because "he hasn't got shit all over him" (Monty Python) always outnumbered the art lovers. Knees Up Mother Brown always had a more ready audience than Beethoven. It's more painfully obvious now because anyone who can press a keyboard can tell the world that 'clASSical music sux'; morons used to be easier to ignore.

    I feel the years slipping by me, and know I’m running out of time trying to get to know one-tenth — one percent! — of this tradition, while the ‘mainstream’ at best ignores it, i.e. when they can’t be bothered to piss all over it. This tempts me to despair more than anything else these days . . . .

     

    You are experiencing the frustration of the highly intelligent; you know enough to know all that you'll never know. You'll never stop feeling that way; you just have to make your peace with it. Be thankful that you have the wit to appreciate what so many can't or won't.
  60. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Mustela Mendax


    Not a one of the Hallelujah Chorus audience stood up – they just stayed on their fat butts, mostly with sullen, bored expressions. None of them knew the tradition, or if any of them did, they couldn’t care less. No honor is to be given to the majesty of their religion nor the beauty of its music. That’s my takeaway from the clip. The continuing obliteration of our culture is nothing but the filling of a vacuum.

     

    This is a trenchant observation. The facet of the postmodern western societies I find most contemptible and infuriating is the gross, rank ingratitude: so many who dismiss the glories of classical music -- it's boring!; the soaring beauty of cathedrals -- they're damp and musty!; the profundity, range, and depth of the literary canon -- just stale pale males with nothing to say to me!

    I feel the years slipping by me, and know I'm running out of time trying to get to know one-tenth -- one percent! -- of this tradition, while the 'mainstream' at best ignores it, i.e. when they can't be bothered to piss all over it. This tempts me to despair more than anything else these days . . . .

    Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Beach

    It is indeed dire. When I see that those who are so forthrightly for the demolition of the West are the educated and intelligent, those most likely to know and even appreciate the value of Western classical traditions, the few who still turn out for such as a classical concert, I don’t know what to make of it.
    I guess they’re confident the museums and concert halls will remain, worthy literature will appear and public spaces will be maintained, despite the certainty welfare programs will consume more and more public money and that portion of the voting population that is either indifferent or hostile to our legacy culture–already unable to compete commercially–will just keep growing. Are the oligarchs going to finance publicly available higher culture through private donations, or take everything private, behind the security gates of their wealthy communities? I can envision museums, for instance, closing down, selling their works to private collectors and becoming public housing. Concert halls converted to venues for increasingly awful popular music.

    So it’s up to us proles to defend Western culture, and for it we’re denigrated as slack-jawed losers. What in the f— gives? I will not be called a loser by such short-sighted, craven…losers. We need a better class of the higher class.

  61. Blitzmob

    • Replies: @anon
    @Harold

    Flashkreig

  62. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “It makes me think of an updated version of the Lord of the Rings…”

    The movies left out a relevant “last adventure” between the destruction of the ring and the “Sailing West” (“Went West” is apparently WWI trench slang for KIA: “It seems that our old friend Major went “West” on or about the second day of the scrap at Chateau-Thierry.”)

    The part edited out is The Scouring of the Shire:

    “…the penultimate chapter of the epic fantasy The Lord of the Rings…

    …The hobbits, Frodo, Sam, Merry, and Pippin, return home to the Shire to find that it has been despoiled and corrupted by ruffians and their leader, the wizard Saruman, now known as Sharkey. …

    …It is notable for being left out in all film adaptations of the novel to date, thus giving the films a rather simple happy ending. …

    …the wizard Saruman, now known as Sharkey, who has taken up residence at Frodo’s former home, Bag End, along with his servant Wormtongue…”

    Desperate times in the old Shire, just when you thought the war was over, eh?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    Scouring of the Shire: It was pretty common after WWII for soldiers to come home and find that sleazeballs who had gotten themselves out of the draft had gotten a corner on local government for corrupt ends. There are some good stories about returning vets cleaning up crooked police forces and mayor's offices, sometimes at gunpoint. Stephen Hunter tells a good story about a town in Tennessee where the vets ran a reform ticket against the local machine, but the machine tried to count the ballots inside the county jail. The vets threatened to dynamite the courthouse unless the votes were counted in the town square in front of all the voters with car headlights for illumination.

    Replies: @David

  63. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Mustela Mendax


    Not a one of the Hallelujah Chorus audience stood up – they just stayed on their fat butts, mostly with sullen, bored expressions. None of them knew the tradition, or if any of them did, they couldn’t care less. No honor is to be given to the majesty of their religion nor the beauty of its music. That’s my takeaway from the clip. The continuing obliteration of our culture is nothing but the filling of a vacuum.

     

    This is a trenchant observation. The facet of the postmodern western societies I find most contemptible and infuriating is the gross, rank ingratitude: so many who dismiss the glories of classical music -- it's boring!; the soaring beauty of cathedrals -- they're damp and musty!; the profundity, range, and depth of the literary canon -- just stale pale males with nothing to say to me!

    I feel the years slipping by me, and know I'm running out of time trying to get to know one-tenth -- one percent! -- of this tradition, while the 'mainstream' at best ignores it, i.e. when they can't be bothered to piss all over it. This tempts me to despair more than anything else these days . . . .

    Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Beach

    so many who dismiss the glories of classical music — it’s boring!; the soaring beauty of cathedrals — they’re damp and musty!; the profundity, range, and depth of the literary canon — just stale pale males with nothing to say to me!

    You are romanticizing the past if you believe that it was not ever thus. The peasants who knew the king was the king because “he hasn’t got shit all over him” (Monty Python) always outnumbered the art lovers. Knees Up Mother Brown always had a more ready audience than Beethoven. It’s more painfully obvious now because anyone who can press a keyboard can tell the world that ‘clASSical music sux’; morons used to be easier to ignore.

    I feel the years slipping by me, and know I’m running out of time trying to get to know one-tenth — one percent! — of this tradition, while the ‘mainstream’ at best ignores it, i.e. when they can’t be bothered to piss all over it. This tempts me to despair more than anything else these days . . . .

    You are experiencing the frustration of the highly intelligent; you know enough to know all that you’ll never know. You’ll never stop feeling that way; you just have to make your peace with it. Be thankful that you have the wit to appreciate what so many can’t or won’t.

  64. @anonymous
    "It makes me think of an updated version of the Lord of the Rings..."

    The movies left out a relevant "last adventure" between the destruction of the ring and the "Sailing West" ("Went West" is apparently WWI trench slang for KIA: "It seems that our old friend Major went "West" on or about the second day of the scrap at Chateau-Thierry.")

    The part edited out is The Scouring of the Shire:


    "...the penultimate chapter of the epic fantasy The Lord of the Rings...

    ...The hobbits, Frodo, Sam, Merry, and Pippin, return home to the Shire to find that it has been despoiled and corrupted by ruffians and their leader, the wizard Saruman, now known as Sharkey. ...

    ...It is notable for being left out in all film adaptations of the novel to date, thus giving the films a rather simple happy ending. ...

    ...the wizard Saruman, now known as Sharkey, who has taken up residence at Frodo's former home, Bag End, along with his servant Wormtongue..."

     

    Desperate times in the old Shire, just when you thought the war was over, eh?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Scouring of the Shire: It was pretty common after WWII for soldiers to come home and find that sleazeballs who had gotten themselves out of the draft had gotten a corner on local government for corrupt ends. There are some good stories about returning vets cleaning up crooked police forces and mayor’s offices, sometimes at gunpoint. Stephen Hunter tells a good story about a town in Tennessee where the vets ran a reform ticket against the local machine, but the machine tried to count the ballots inside the county jail. The vets threatened to dynamite the courthouse unless the votes were counted in the town square in front of all the voters with car headlights for illumination.

    • Replies: @David
    @Steve Sailer

    John Keegan speculates that the Civil War in the US caused its Northern veterans to become very engaged in their government. One who fights a war so that government by, of and for the people shall not parish is less likely to neglect it.

    He also wonders if the treacly sweetness of southern women isn't a response to their needing to welcome home the first defeated American army.

  65. @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    Scouring of the Shire: It was pretty common after WWII for soldiers to come home and find that sleazeballs who had gotten themselves out of the draft had gotten a corner on local government for corrupt ends. There are some good stories about returning vets cleaning up crooked police forces and mayor's offices, sometimes at gunpoint. Stephen Hunter tells a good story about a town in Tennessee where the vets ran a reform ticket against the local machine, but the machine tried to count the ballots inside the county jail. The vets threatened to dynamite the courthouse unless the votes were counted in the town square in front of all the voters with car headlights for illumination.

    Replies: @David

    John Keegan speculates that the Civil War in the US caused its Northern veterans to become very engaged in their government. One who fights a war so that government by, of and for the people shall not parish is less likely to neglect it.

    He also wonders if the treacly sweetness of southern women isn’t a response to their needing to welcome home the first defeated American army.

  66. @Harold
    Blitzmob

    Replies: @anon

    Flashkreig

    • Agree: Harold
  67. @Mark Minter
    I am sort of clueless about what goes one outside of the alt-right web community. I have no cable. I little contact with people not a part of "our thing". So I can't say how exactly this is affecting the greater public in America. I am sure it has to be a boon for Trump. I hope it is scaring the crap out of Americans.

    But I must say that our writers have really stepped up. The level and quality of things produced is as high as I have ever read in this community. The only other time that it was this good was back in Haven Montana days. This linkage of HBD and psychological makeup that emerged from so many quarters, I think has pushed the whole idea of genes rule/blank slate drools into a whole new realm of quality writing, giving many of us very good references for future fights.

    Replies: @WowJustWow, @Buzz Mohawk

    I am sort of clueless about what goes one outside of the alt-right web community. I have no cable.

    You’re not missing anything but prolefeed* and propaganda.

    You are saving money and time better spent on worthwhile things. Good for you. My work does not allow me to be that cut off, and my wife needs cable for her shows. So there you go.

    Salutations.

    *https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolefeed

  68. @CJ
    @Olorin

    What’s going to happen is that these “advanced”-people for-their-societies are going to get to the north and realize they have no hope whatever of living within, never mind thriving within, the plus-one-standard deviation/modern genome Europeans who thrive all around them.

    An underappreciated point. People who are clearly not rocket scientists are nonetheless savvy enough to know that they and their relatives are never going to become rocket scientists. My only argument with you would be that lots of people understand this before they ever get to "the north".

    Replies: @Olorin

    No, actually I agree with you.

    It’s more than IQ–there’s an entire panoply of genetic capacities for things like future orientation, common-good-mindedness, and so on. People who lack anything but consumerist greed for whatever the mercantile and infotainment masters wave in front of their noses–well, they aren’t going to like it when they realize that, whatever society they go to, they’re going to be failures. That was all settled by mom’s and dad’s home genetics experiment.

    But since they’re being told they DESERVE all that stuff, created by others out of others’ sweat and blood, they will demand it. Surely some, or many, or even most, understand that…or to put it more genetically precisely are whiffing weakness as they surge in. Ascending through bullying, threats, and grievance, is something well within their retinue of capacities. Being blessedly spared the promethean (or maybe cassandran) capacity for forethought means they don’t look ahead very far.

    We do have some experience of this ochlocratic tide of Gimmee in the US, as Mr. Sailer noted the other day in his posting referencing Scarface…and of course the Church of Latter Day Saints Skittles and Swisher and the St. Lead-Chip-Communion.

    Even more unsettling is my sense is that the people who best understand that Rocket Science is genetically apportioned, themselves are well positioned, are not able to do Rocket Science, can at best aspire to mercantile or infotainment industry riches (skimming profits off the demos), and will use their envy to destroy what they cannot create…and those who create it.

    From an HBD perspective, this is basic population genetics.

    Demographic segregation–aka island biogeography with controlled interbreeding–is the only way to conserve the genes that created the societies the entire world wants to live in, though cannot create. I doubt the demos has any taste for it, and neither do those who have risen to great wealth and power on their domestication of the demos as sheep.

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