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From the New York Times news section:

What Integration Means for White Homeowners

In historically White neighborhoods, owners selling their homes on the open market have to grapple with the fact that accepting the highest bid could mean another step toward White displacement.

By Jacquelynn Kerubo
Published Aug. 17, 2021

Nostalgia isn’t enough to keep Thomas Holley, 74, in the Crown Heights brownstone he has lived in for more than 58 years.

He got married in that home and raised his children there. His basement man cave, complete with a bar and mood lighting, was an oasis where he escaped for alone time.

But now fully retired from his transit job as a bus operator and having suffered health setbacks — a heart attack and spinal surgery — he wants to trade in the brownstone for more quiet and all-year sunshine at the condo he purchased in 2017 in a Florida suburb north of Orlando.

He loves Brooklyn, but the integration of Crown Heights has been hard for him to watch and experience. As a White homeowner, he would like, more than anything else, to see another White homeowner take over the house. But it’s precisely because integration has driven property values down that Mr. Holley may not be able to do that.

Like other White homeowners selling family homes in competitive ZIP codes, Mr. Holley feels like the sale is freighted with the burden of his race. He had hoped to leave the house to his only living child, a son in New Jersey, but his son isn’t interested in the brownstone. Mr. Holley fears that when he lists the house on the open market, he may unintentionally play a part in the continued displacement of the White community in Crown Heights. “I can’t turn down a market offer because it’s for my six grandkids,” he said. “I want to leave something behind for them.” …

Mr. Holley estimates that the 12-room, two-family house he inherited from his mother may be worth close to \$2 million, well beyond what most of his friends or family members could afford. He offered to sell it to a friend at a below-market price, but his friend could not qualify for a mortgage. He knows when he lists the house, he will have to abide by fair housing rules and not discriminate based on race.

Mr. Holley remembers when Crown Heights felt like it was “100 percent White.” The area is now less than 50 percent White. “That doesn’t bother me. It’s some of the people moving in that are problematic,” Mr. Holley said. …

Mr. Holley has made peace with the fact that his home likely won’t sell to a White person, but he feels sad and a little guilty. “Once White people move out, it’s hard for them to get back into the neighborhood because the integration completely prices them out.”

To allay the sense of guilt a White homeowner might feel when selling their home in an integrating community, Dr. Faber noted first and foremost that “these longtime homeowners should be congratulated and appropriately compensated for these investments they made in these neighborhoods when black households were fleeing decades ago.”

He added that the problems associated with integration, “such as rising costs of living, increased police harassment, political and social displacement, aren’t caused by White homeowners.” They are caused, he said, “by forces that move property, like speculative real estate purchasing, the consolidation of rental properties, zoning laws, mortgage markets. All of these things are far more influential than the individual homeowner.” …

OK, well, this isn’t exactly what the NYT published. I made a few Find-and-Replaces.

 
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  1. I bet a lot of people will be shocked when the NYT writes an article entitled “THAT’S IT!” gleefully describing how there are no more ADOS in NYC. Not gleefully maybe, but it’s going to be obvious reading between the lines.

    • Replies: @bigdicknick
    @Redneck farmer

    the nyt sure are passionate about diversity in other people's neighborhoods, but not there own. reminds me of a certain country...hey which group controls the media again?

  2. Off topic alert. I’m looking forward to your comments on the new milk crate challenge.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @bonin41

    Painful looking.

    Replies: @bonin41

    , @Clyde
    @bonin41


    milk crate challenge....
     
    This is like getting tattoos. Painful, dumb, you will regret them. This and tattoos are usually done when you are high and have a friend or two to egg you on.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  3. @bonin41
    Off topic alert. I'm looking forward to your comments on the new milk crate challenge.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Clyde

    Painful looking.

    • Replies: @bonin41
    @Steve Sailer

    Cheers for the reply. Did you notice that they are primarily black men who fell. Women and white men had better balance. One has to ask, what is going on in this world when this sort of thing is happening.

  4. I paused for a long time and thought ‘Is this made up?’ when I read 1 “Surviving” Child and 6 Grandchildren along with Bus Driver as a job

    Then I got fed up and scrolled down to Steve’s comment at the bottom and went

    Ha Ha Steve, Ha Ha

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Thoughts

    The "Find-And-Replace" was the dead giveaway.

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Thoughts

    I knew when I noticed "White" was capitalized but "black" wasn't.

    , @Alfa158
    @Thoughts

    “ 1 “Surviving” Child and 6 Grandchildren along with Bus Driver as a job”
    I read that and immediately knew that Steve had replaced Black with White.

    , @Alden
    @Thoughts

    Big city union bus drivers make very high incomes. Incomes most cubicle “ professionals” only wish they could make. And the blacks have a great financial advantage In that nice homes in black neighborhoods cost about 40 percent less than equal homes in White neighborhoods and suburbs.

  5. W/O DeepState diversity bullying, blacks in US would be living in shacks.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Eddie The Swarthy Rat Cellar


    W/O DeepState diversity bullying, blacks in US would be living in shacks.
     
    You mean grass or mud huts. Living here is a boon to blacks. If our slave descended had been left alone in Africa, they would be living at 5% their current American standard of living. If your ancestors came here from England or Germany, life and wealth in the old country is about the same as in the US.

    What people with IQs can do>
    Warmest Tent on Earth - Pitching in the Siberian Arctic Winter - Ненецкая палатка чум
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gI6q4R8ih4

    The Nenet reindeer herders need to move their tent every few days throughout most of the year. Every time they migrate they must pack the whole tent away, drag it across the tundra on sledges, and erect it again in a fresh place, sometimes in temperatures of minus thirty degrees. Survival depends on working together as a team.

    After staying in the wooded taiga for two months they start to migrate north following the ancient paths of migrating reindeer (caribou). In four months they will travel up to 1200km and must pack and move every three to five days to keep up with their herd. They must reach their summer quarters before the snows melt and flood great rivers with icy waters too cold and deep for the calves, born along the way, to cross.
     
    , @shortstroke
    @Eddie The Swarthy Rat Cellar

    look at the black income and employment rate now and then think what it would look like without all the government AA jobs.

  6. Haha! You fooled me. For about two and a half sentences.

    • Agree: donut
  7. Finding and replacing the racial designations only obscures what should be the main point, viz. this guy did pretty darn good for a bus driver. No generation before ever had such opportunity, nor likely will again. If anybody under 40 actually read the New York Times, they would be livid.

    • Agree: donut, Sollipsist, Cato
    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Agree. Suggested replacement headline for the NYT article:


    See How this Brooklyn Bus Driver Retired Early on Disability and Became a Multimillionaire Using This One Weird Trick!
     
    Only in America, as they say. You'd think the race boosters would would be jumping for joy at Mr. Holley's extraordinary good fortune. Not a bit of it, of course, there's always another angle in the race grievance industry.

    Dr. Faber noted first and foremost that “these longtime homeowners should be congratulated and appropriately compensated for these investments they made in these neighborhoods when [white] households were fleeing decades ago.”
     
    Well, technically, he inherited the house, so he didn't actually make the investment, his mother (or father?) did. Back before the [anti-]Civil Rights revolution, most blacks married, so the Holleys' home ownership was likely an artifact of the functional nuclear families that the liberals have worked so hard to eradicate.

    Tellingly, all three of the black homeownership examples in Ms. Kerubo's original article were acquired before the Fair Housing Act, which was supposedly going to turn all black families into homeowners. Similarly, elsewhere in in Ms. Kerubo's twitter feed is this NYT headline:


    Black homeownership rates are at their lowest since housing discrimination was made illegal 5 decades ago
     
    What a paradox for liberals! They tossed away the Constitution to give the poor blacks a leg up, and ... everything backfired. Of course it never occurred to them that legal separation may have had some benefits for blacks too. Ensconced in their own communities, blacks weren't outcompeted by other ethnic groups for housing stock. Black women had a better pick of black men when the men wouldn't outmarry to other ethnicities. Etc. But liberals could only whinge about the supposed "horrors of Jim Crow". Well, no worries, as Ms. Kerobu notes in her article, Biden has restored Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing, and it'll work for sure this time!

    Replies: @guest007, @Forbes, @Intelligent Dasein

    , @TomBarrera
    @Intelligent Dasein

    the article says he inherited from his mother. Crown Height btw has been "diversified" since the 1950's, the only whites that stuck around were Jewish

    , @Anonymous Jew
    @Intelligent Dasein

    The decline in median wage plus the appreciation of housing in metro areas - even red metro areas - has really screwed over most Americans. At least the majority that did not see their wages increase due to the technology (ie engineers et al). In the 1950’s, it wasn’t unusual for middle class families to own two cars that cost more than their house. Now even the exurbs in red state metros aren’t close to that cheap.

    The $64,000 question, at least for us crimethinkers, is how much post-1965 immigration is to blame.

    Admittedly, Park Slope is an extreme example of real estate appreciation. The one I’m most familiar with is San Francisco. For many years we rented in the Outer Sunset, a once working class Irish neighborhood. Most homes were nearly identical: post-war row houses with 2bd 1ba roughly 1,200 sq ft up top with a garage and unfinished space on the ground floor (though most were remodeled, usually to add square footage downstairs). As I type, the typical going price for these houses, even with no improvements, is $1.1 - 1.3 million.

    So in the Outer Sunset you had many working class Irish versions of the story above. Patrick McMurphy works at the local grocery store, and when he’s finally ready to retire in Florida he cashes out to the Chinese and ends up well ahead of many engineers in his generation. Not bad, and it’s not happening to another generation anytime soon.

    Last thought - imagine what would happen to real estate prices in 50 years with an immigration moratorium and below-replacement fertility?

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

  8. @bonin41
    Off topic alert. I'm looking forward to your comments on the new milk crate challenge.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Clyde

    milk crate challenge….

    This is like getting tattoos. Painful, dumb, you will regret them. This and tattoos are usually done when you are high and have a friend or two to egg you on.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Clyde


    This is like getting tattoos. Painful, dumb, you will regret them. This and tattoos are usually done when you are high and have a friend or two to egg you on.

     

    When the Bums move back to Brooklyn-- the ultimate in gentrification-- this guy can always let his hair grow back:



    https://www.dailybulletin.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/1026_nws_idb-dodgertats-1026-03-jcm.jpg?w=620
  9. I knew something was up since the last white bus driver from Brooklyn was Ralph Kramden.

    Here are the links to Jacquelynn Kerubo’s Twitter feed, as well as the NYT’s Twitter post for the story:

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @ScarletNumber

    Oh, hey, y'all. Just re-reading The Lover by Duras on the rooftop on my birthday.

    Replies: @Billy Corr

    , @Expletive Deleted
    @ScarletNumber

    Why is she trying to persuade people to offload at under market value? Is she hoping to sucker some race-aware fellow kangsman into letting her or her associates snap these properties up and flip them? No doubt to ultraSWPL gentrifiers with more money than brains.
    Because that's what'll happen to anything sold too cheap, unless there are specific "Jim Swan" redlining measures put in place.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    , @AndrewR
    @ScarletNumber

    Not sure how she wants to achieve her racial communism but let's compromise. We can take all the money from trillionaires like Bezos (and I do mean all) and give it exclusively to black women.

    Also,


    Thomas Holley, a 74-year-old Black man, who has owned in Crown Heights for 58 yrs
     
    He must have been a very enterprising 16 year old to afford a house.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Gabe Ruth

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @ScarletNumber

    In the style of New Yorker Jerry Seinfeld, "oh, they'll grapple!" "How 'bout you, George?" "Oh, yeah. Put me down for some of that grappling."

    Who wouldn't grapple with it and sell for what the damn house is worth on the market? It's not like they are even hurting anyone by doing this. It'd be a different dilemma, aka "grappling", if they were White people ruining the neighborhood by letting in black thugs.

    Oh, and yeah, I got the idea right away from the "Find-and-Replace" in the headline. I am pretty sure Steve wanted to telegraph this so that he wouldn't be seen as deliberately fooling people. This method of presenting the story does drive home the hypocrisy, that's for sure.

  10. @Eddie The Swarthy Rat Cellar
    W/O DeepState diversity bullying, blacks in US would be living in shacks.

    Replies: @Clyde, @shortstroke

    W/O DeepState diversity bullying, blacks in US would be living in shacks.

    You mean grass or mud huts. Living here is a boon to blacks. If our slave descended had been left alone in Africa, they would be living at 5% their current American standard of living. If your ancestors came here from England or Germany, life and wealth in the old country is about the same as in the US.

    What people with IQs can do>
    Warmest Tent on Earth – Pitching in the Siberian Arctic Winter – Ненецкая палатка чум

    The Nenet reindeer herders need to move their tent every few days throughout most of the year. Every time they migrate they must pack the whole tent away, drag it across the tundra on sledges, and erect it again in a fresh place, sometimes in temperatures of minus thirty degrees. Survival depends on working together as a team.

    After staying in the wooded taiga for two months they start to migrate north following the ancient paths of migrating reindeer (caribou). In four months they will travel up to 1200km and must pack and move every three to five days to keep up with their herd. They must reach their summer quarters before the snows melt and flood great rivers with icy waters too cold and deep for the calves, born along the way, to cross.

  11. @ScarletNumber
    I knew something was up since the last white bus driver from Brooklyn was Ralph Kramden.

    ---

    Here are the links to Jacquelynn Kerubo's Twitter feed, as well as the NYT's Twitter post for the story:

    https://twitter.com/jakki_kerubo

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1428174917464436736

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Expletive Deleted, @AndrewR, @Achmed E. Newman

    Oh, hey, y’all. Just re-reading The Lover by Duras on the rooftop on my birthday.

    • Replies: @Billy Corr
    @JimDandy

    Go and see the movie! The young lady is a real stunner, especially when she is watering the indoor plants.

    Replies: @JimDandy

  12. OT :

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    @donut

    A self-recruiting elite that reserves for itself political power?

    Higher education in the United States?

  13. It is a source of amazement to me to see Whites pouring in to live and buy homes in places in New York they never would have even set foot in just a few years ago. Compare what they do with real estate — which is buy up or rent whatever they want without caring one bit about the minorites they are pushing out with nowhere in New York to go — with what they say about equity and every other Woke notion and it makes my head spin.

    One of those Woke notions is that Blacks have been robbed for over 100 years because their property was valued less. They demand that Blacks be paid just as much as Whites for equivalent properties. They ignore the fact that most Blacks have to buy low or not buy at all. It is clear to me that the only way to keep Blacks in homes is to keep the prices much lower as long as they are making much less than Whites.

    In every seller vs. buyer tug of war, it seems sellers always win and that is happening here, too.

    This is another issue, similar to immigration, that Black leaders are all supporting policies that rob their own voters. They should support keeping minority neighborhoods as is, although as a practical matter I don’t know how we could reverse the current situation now. Supporting much higher property prices is not quite as stupid as supporting lots more immigration — Black sellers do benefit as they make buying impossible for other Blacks — but it is crazy.

    • Agree: Abe
    • Replies: @Forbes
    @notsaying

    This gentrification has been going on in NYC for nearly three decades--since Giuliani turned the tide on crime. (Crown Heights is famous for a 1991 riot that started the downfall of Mayor Dinkins.)

    The writer Caribou is a transplant, so it's a novel experience for her--just like all the 20-something college grads the NYT hires (or freelances), i.e. the city is new and exciting to them, so they write a "story." Actual reporting of facts and details gets lost in the perspective of championing a cause with advocacy.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  14. Never mind that at one time Crown Heights was all white, and was 70% white even in 1960. So the same rule that applies to the Oscars applies to neighborhoods.

    Bottom line, the real Mr. Holley doesn’t want more Hasidic Jews moving in to Crown Heights, but being old and frail he’s unable to stop them by traditional means — attacking them on the street.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @International Jew

    Yes, the Hasidim were the only Whites who dared continue to live in Crown Heights long before it became currently fashionable for Yuppie homesteaders! They continued to live in CHs even after Mayor Dinkin's sanctioned program!

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Gary in Gramercy

    , @Bugg
    @International Jew

    The article, at least the portions not behind a paywall, doesn't mention Hasidic Jews. Eastern Parkway is dominated by Jews, and 30 years ago this week, there was a full scale riot between blacks and Jews when Rabbi Schneerson's car struck and killed a Carribean boy, whereupon a gang of blacks stabbed an Hasidic guy to death (Lemrick Nelson was acquitted in state court of murder and convicted in federal court of civil rights violations; 2 sovereigns trumped double jeopardy, another day , another rant about trampling on the Constitution when ever government chooses to do so). Mr. Holley also doesn't mention he almost certainly bought his home 58 years ago from an Irish or Italian family fleeing the wonderful black people , who turned the non-Hasidic part of Crown Heights into a dump.

    Replies: @International Jew

    , @3g4me
    @International Jew

    @14 International Jew: Jews (particular Hasidic ones) are not equivalent to European Whites. And Hasidic hostility to Christian Whites is at least equal to if not greater than Mr. Holley's hostility to said Jews. Christian White Europeans are not moving back to New York or any other large city. Those few Whites and the other "fellow Whites" who do so are not my concern and do not have my sympathy for any subsequent ethnic and racial consequences. They are not my people.

    Replies: @International Jew

  15. @ScarletNumber
    I knew something was up since the last white bus driver from Brooklyn was Ralph Kramden.

    ---

    Here are the links to Jacquelynn Kerubo's Twitter feed, as well as the NYT's Twitter post for the story:

    https://twitter.com/jakki_kerubo

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1428174917464436736

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Expletive Deleted, @AndrewR, @Achmed E. Newman

    Why is she trying to persuade people to offload at under market value? Is she hoping to sucker some race-aware fellow kangsman into letting her or her associates snap these properties up and flip them? No doubt to ultraSWPL gentrifiers with more money than brains.
    Because that’s what’ll happen to anything sold too cheap, unless there are specific “Jim Swan” redlining measures put in place.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Expletive Deleted

    Whites moving out, blacks in = white flight (bad)

    Whites moving in, blacks out = gentrification (bad)

    Whites and blacks staying where they are = segregation (bad)

    Really makes you think....

    Replies: @HallParvey

  16. What would NYC be without ADOS ? It still wouldn’t be America, but would it still be NYC?

  17. @ScarletNumber
    I knew something was up since the last white bus driver from Brooklyn was Ralph Kramden.

    ---

    Here are the links to Jacquelynn Kerubo's Twitter feed, as well as the NYT's Twitter post for the story:

    https://twitter.com/jakki_kerubo

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1428174917464436736

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Expletive Deleted, @AndrewR, @Achmed E. Newman

    Not sure how she wants to achieve her racial communism but let’s compromise. We can take all the money from trillionaires like Bezos (and I do mean all) and give it exclusively to black women.

    Also,

    Thomas Holley, a 74-year-old Black man, who has owned in Crown Heights for 58 yrs

    He must have been a very enterprising 16 year old to afford a house.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @AndrewR

    He must have been a very enterprising 16 year old to afford a house.

    He would only be enterprising if he killed his parents. He inherited the house.

    , @Gabe Ruth
    @AndrewR

    Throw in some tube tying for the unmarried and I'm sold.

  18. “I can’t turn down a market offer because it’s for my six grandkids,” he said. ‘I want to leave something behind for them.’”

    “Mr. Holley estimates that the 12-room, two-family house he inherited from his mother may be worth close to \$2 million, well beyond what most of his friends or family members could afford. ”

    Y’know, a smart fellow would take the profit on the sale of the house (after taxes) if he didn’t absolutely need it, place it in a trust with provisions on its disbursement, grow the amount, and when the grandkids reached 18 or 21, they’d have a nice nest egg for the future.

    A smart fellow would.

  19. @Expletive Deleted
    @ScarletNumber

    Why is she trying to persuade people to offload at under market value? Is she hoping to sucker some race-aware fellow kangsman into letting her or her associates snap these properties up and flip them? No doubt to ultraSWPL gentrifiers with more money than brains.
    Because that's what'll happen to anything sold too cheap, unless there are specific "Jim Swan" redlining measures put in place.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Whites moving out, blacks in = white flight (bad)

    Whites moving in, blacks out = gentrification (bad)

    Whites and blacks staying where they are = segregation (bad)

    Really makes you think….

    • Replies: @HallParvey
    @AndrewR

    Just causes headaches.

  20. Another fun one is to do to it to articles against mass tourism. Replace ‘tourist’ with ‘immigrant’. I once saw the term ‘social pollution’ in one and thought that no better description existed of natives being pushed out of their social spaces and having their social environment fragmented by outsiders.

    Immigrants do all the things tourists do just the tourists have the good manners to go home and not make claims on the host country for themselves. It’s almost like a psychological cleansing for progressives when they write articles on how annoying having lots of foreigners taking up space is, the vitriol. But it is reserved for tourists.

    • Agree: Farenheit
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Altai


    ... the tourists have the good manners to go home ...
     
    I like your idea, Altai, but I have to add that lots of times the "tourist" don't go home. That is a big part of illegal immigration of the Chinese and Indian variety. Tourist visas have time limits, but if a country is a stupid one and doesn't have "exit control" (i.e., keeping track of who leaves), then it can't really tell when tourists become immigrants. What makes it worse is that, once you get large numbers of any group, the illegal former tourists can mix in with no way in hell to go pick them out and send them home.

    Now, in a non-stupid country, like China, they have exit controls. If you have not left, they can come looking for you - there aren't 5 million round-eyes all living together to where they can't find you. From my own experience entering China from Macao to ZhuHai long ago, I saw how a SERIOUS country operates, in this case, with respect to worrisome Moslems - see "Chinese Immigration NON-Stupidity".

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Altai, @Lurker

  21. Steve,

    Somewhat related, yet somewhat off topic, I saw this story and wanted to post it for your commentary.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/peoria-il-real-estate/

    “The strange summer land rush in Peoria’s dying south end”

    “PEORIA, Ill. — A block that had once been home to more than 100 people was down to six who lived amid the ruins of another era. There were gaping holes in roofs and crumbling foundations. Some houses were so bad that even the squatters had quit on them, and now only raccoons and rodents sought them out for shelter.

    And then, for reasons that no one in Peoria could fathom, people from all over America began snapping them up. By early summer, seven houses on this block of West Lincoln Avenue had sold to buyers from Los Angeles, San Diego, Long Island, Tacoma, Wash., and other far-off places.”

    Take a gander at who is buying these houses, and the financial situation some of these folks are in. You’ll notice a common thread across the stories of the buyers. Maybe it’s fodder for another post, maybe not.

    • Thanks: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @mmack

    Land: He's not making any more of it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCOzqP9Dt9E;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x56MtVXDbJ8.

    , @Prester John
    @mmack

    Because of the paywall I couldn't access the WaPo article but I sort of grokked who you were talking about. I first noticed this sort of thing in Harlem, once the capital of Black America, but the phenomenon spread all over NYC--and, obviously, elsewhere.

    Replies: @mmack, @YetAnotherAnon, @Anon

    , @cityview
    @mmack

    I missed this article, which is probably one of the most unusual stories I've ever read in the Post. Earlier this year, or maybe in 2020, the Post ran a story about several white people who lived in south Peoria. The houses weren't in good shape, but they didn't look as bad as those in the current article. The people described were all having a hard time, the comments were enabled, and many were vicious. I wonder whether the earlier story brought online attention to these sections of the city.

    In the recent story, I don't think the real estate is worth salvaging. There may be industrial contamination around many of these properties. I note with disapproval the store owner's contempt for his customers, not pictured.

    , @gandydancer
    @mmack


    You’ll notice a common thread across the stories of the buyers.
     
    I don't know why you're being coy about this. Most of them are undereducated black suckers, but maybe that guy with a pool will make a go of it. Probably not, and it's not the best place to put his effort in. You really need to have a large enough group to have armed guards at all times or you're going to be plundered. Now, the real economy centers around things like that school that cost $millions to tear down, what with asbestos removal and such. They'll never pay for that churning repossessed lots at $750+/per. But maybe if they invest in some DC congressvermin they can get some of those newly printed $billions and everyone associated with local Big Man can get a bite.
  22. The jig was up when in the faux story about “White displacement” the word “White” was actually capitalized and more than once, when referring specifically to Whites as a group. No NYT writer were their salt would dare to do something so obviously racist. Whites capitalized would tend to suggest that Whites are an actual distinguishable group, with actual interests, and are equal to other groups (e.g. POCS).

  23. @Steve Sailer
    @bonin41

    Painful looking.

    Replies: @bonin41

    Cheers for the reply. Did you notice that they are primarily black men who fell. Women and white men had better balance. One has to ask, what is going on in this world when this sort of thing is happening.

  24. @Intelligent Dasein
    Finding and replacing the racial designations only obscures what should be the main point, viz. this guy did pretty darn good for a bus driver. No generation before ever had such opportunity, nor likely will again. If anybody under 40 actually read the New York Times, they would be livid.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @TomBarrera, @Anonymous Jew

    Agree. Suggested replacement headline for the NYT article:

    See How this Brooklyn Bus Driver Retired Early on Disability and Became a Multimillionaire Using This One Weird Trick!

    Only in America, as they say. You’d think the race boosters would would be jumping for joy at Mr. Holley’s extraordinary good fortune. Not a bit of it, of course, there’s always another angle in the race grievance industry.

    Dr. Faber noted first and foremost that “these longtime homeowners should be congratulated and appropriately compensated for these investments they made in these neighborhoods when [white] households were fleeing decades ago.”

    Well, technically, he inherited the house, so he didn’t actually make the investment, his mother (or father?) did. Back before the [anti-]Civil Rights revolution, most blacks married, so the Holleys’ home ownership was likely an artifact of the functional nuclear families that the liberals have worked so hard to eradicate.

    Tellingly, all three of the black homeownership examples in Ms. Kerubo’s original article were acquired before the Fair Housing Act, which was supposedly going to turn all black families into homeowners. Similarly, elsewhere in in Ms. Kerubo’s twitter feed is this NYT headline:

    Black homeownership rates are at their lowest since housing discrimination was made illegal 5 decades ago

    What a paradox for liberals! They tossed away the Constitution to give the poor blacks a leg up, and … everything backfired. Of course it never occurred to them that legal separation may have had some benefits for blacks too. Ensconced in their own communities, blacks weren’t outcompeted by other ethnic groups for housing stock. Black women had a better pick of black men when the men wouldn’t outmarry to other ethnicities. Etc. But liberals could only whinge about the supposed “horrors of Jim Crow”. Well, no worries, as Ms. Kerobu notes in her article, Biden has restored Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing, and it’ll work for sure this time!

    • Replies: @guest007
    @Almost Missouri

    Odd to see anyone in 2021 arguing that Loving V Virginia was not decided correctly. Does anyone believe such positions are the way to win a majority in the U.S. along with legalizing housing discrimination and segregated schools.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    , @Forbes
    @Almost Missouri

    Is that Ms. Kerobu or Miss Caribou? Better than being called a water buffalo, I suppose...

    , @Intelligent Dasein
    @Almost Missouri

    Thanks. That was a very pertinent and well written reply.

  25. OT. The British authorities were horrified to discover that a man who was on a rescue flight that had taken off from Kabul was on their “no-fly” list. How could they possibly deal with such an embarrassing and potentially dangerous situation? Simple! Remove him from the no-fly list, and release him in Birmingham.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9920025/Man-UKs-no-fly-watchlist-airlifted-Kabul-Birmingham-apparent-security-breach.html

    • Thanks: Morton's toes
    • LOL: El Dato
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @James N. Kennett

    It's OK, James. Once they get settled in Minneapolis, they will be fully, FULLY vetted, FULLY, I tells ya, before they are put to work on the ramp servicing airplanes at MSP, or working at the TSA checking out White grannies, gays, and grandes for weapons, sometimes even grappling (with) them.

    They can be put to work alongside the Somalians already established there, with hopefully no friction among them, no, no friction at all. HR ladies will make sure of this.

    I mean "VETTED", James, in all caps - arrest records, gun ownership, Afghani elementary school grades, time spent in the RTC (that's detention, but it's called the Responsible Thinking Center now, for, like clarity's sake), all of it. FULLY! VETTED!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Peter D. Bredon
    @James N. Kennett

    Surprising easy, barely an inconvenience.

  26. Okay, does this mean that NYT writers and employees are going to stop gentrifying New York neighborhoods?

    • Replies: @Prester John
    @countenance

    Shh...! Nobody is supposed to know.

    , @bomag
    @countenance

    Reminds one of the adage:

    "No snowflake thinks they contributed to the avalanche."

    Replies: @Neuday

  27. Heh, you almost fooled me.

    My parents remember when Brownsville was mostly (((Italian.)))

  28. @Thoughts
    I paused for a long time and thought 'Is this made up?' when I read 1 "Surviving" Child and 6 Grandchildren along with Bus Driver as a job

    Then I got fed up and scrolled down to Steve's comment at the bottom and went

    Ha Ha Steve, Ha Ha

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Hypnotoad666, @Alfa158, @Alden

    The “Find-And-Replace” was the dead giveaway.

  29. @mmack
    Steve,

    Somewhat related, yet somewhat off topic, I saw this story and wanted to post it for your commentary.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/peoria-il-real-estate/

    “The strange summer land rush in Peoria’s dying south end”

    “PEORIA, Ill. — A block that had once been home to more than 100 people was down to six who lived amid the ruins of another era. There were gaping holes in roofs and crumbling foundations. Some houses were so bad that even the squatters had quit on them, and now only raccoons and rodents sought them out for shelter.

    And then, for reasons that no one in Peoria could fathom, people from all over America began snapping them up. By early summer, seven houses on this block of West Lincoln Avenue had sold to buyers from Los Angeles, San Diego, Long Island, Tacoma, Wash., and other far-off places.”

    Take a gander at who is buying these houses, and the financial situation some of these folks are in. You’ll notice a common thread across the stories of the buyers. Maybe it’s fodder for another post, maybe not.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @Prester John, @cityview, @gandydancer

    Land: He’s not making any more of it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x56MtVXDbJ8.

  30. @International Jew
    Never mind that at one time Crown Heights was all white, and was 70% white even in 1960. So the same rule that applies to the Oscars applies to neighborhoods.


    Bottom line, the real Mr. Holley doesn't want more Hasidic Jews moving in to Crown Heights, but being old and frail he's unable to stop them by traditional means — attacking them on the street.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Bugg, @3g4me

    Yes, the Hasidim were the only Whites who dared continue to live in Crown Heights long before it became currently fashionable for Yuppie homesteaders! They continued to live in CHs even after Mayor Dinkin’s sanctioned program!

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Dan Hayes

    even after Mayor Dinkin’s sanctioned program!

    Pogrom?

    , @Gary in Gramercy
    @Dan Hayes

    I couldn't read the entire article, as it's behind the NYT paywall. For all I know, the writer may have mentioned this possibility, but who other than the Lubavitcher Hasidim (who typically have lots of children, and are always looking for more space in which to raise them) are going to buy a nearly $2 million house in Crown Heights? A white yuppie couple with that kind of money can probably buy a brownstone in the nicer parts of Park Slope (although by this point, Cobble Hill -- and perhaps even Carroll Gardens -- may be out of reach if you want something more than a mere sliver of a house).

    If a nice Lubavitcher couple comes to Mr. Holley with an all-cash offer for $1.5 million or so, and the ability to close quickly, he'll jump at it. His duty is to his blood relatives, not "The Community."

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @ATBOTL

  31. @AndrewR
    @ScarletNumber

    Not sure how she wants to achieve her racial communism but let's compromise. We can take all the money from trillionaires like Bezos (and I do mean all) and give it exclusively to black women.

    Also,


    Thomas Holley, a 74-year-old Black man, who has owned in Crown Heights for 58 yrs
     
    He must have been a very enterprising 16 year old to afford a house.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Gabe Ruth

    He must have been a very enterprising 16 year old to afford a house.

    He would only be enterprising if he killed his parents. He inherited the house.

    • LOL: gandydancer
  32. I bought my first house in a nearly all black DC neighborhood – not the first gentrifier as there were already some whites living there, but the ‘hood was still probably 85% black. The neighborhood was apparently a middle class white one in the 50s and up until the mid-60s, but it was in of the areas most affected by the rioting following MLK’s death, which largely destroyed what had been a thriving commercial strip a few blocks away.

    Most of the homes were still owned by blacks, although I’d say maybe 1/3 were retired former municipal workers like in the NYT story, a solid 50% were occupied by the loser relatives of the owner (usually a grandmother who was in a nursing home or something), and the rest were a smattering of blacks who were working and had bought the homes in the late 90s when they were still quite affordable.

    The first group definitely had the attitude of the guy in this story, but were generally fatalistic in the sense that they recognized that blacks had let something slip away from them, plus they appreciated that more whites meant less crime and that cops would actually come when called. Generally they were pretty friendly and good neighbors. The other two groups were generally not friendly to outright hostile.

    One of the things that was most frustrating about living in that neighborhood was the almost complete passivity of all of the blacks towards social disorder. Littering, petty theft and so on was basically ignored, packs of roving kids out at all hours were shrugged at, and open violence would result in people just going inside and acting like it didn’t happen. From conversations with the old timers it was clear that some of this stuff bothered them, but their cultural mindset was not to get involved at all.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  33. @Dan Hayes
    @International Jew

    Yes, the Hasidim were the only Whites who dared continue to live in Crown Heights long before it became currently fashionable for Yuppie homesteaders! They continued to live in CHs even after Mayor Dinkin's sanctioned program!

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Gary in Gramercy

    even after Mayor Dinkin’s sanctioned program!

    Pogrom?

    • Thanks: Dan Hayes
    • LOL: BB753
  34. Somehow I don’t think a black ne’er-do-well is going to be able to afford a two million dollar mortgage. And if you don’t think there are ways around the “fair housing” regulations you don’t know much about how the real estate industry works. No one is obligated to explain why they did or did not take the highest offer, particularly when there are shall we say mitigating circumstances, which are quite easy to uncover.

    The urban neighborhood I live in is one in which property values have skyrocketed. Now it’s full of snooty young white professionals from the suburbs, not an improvement over Italian bus drivers and Portuguese factory workers if you ask me. But that’s the free market, right, the very one we as happy sheep are supposed not to notice is really neither free nor strictly speaking a real market at all.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Observator


    And if you don’t think there are ways around the “fair housing” regulations you don’t know much about how the real estate industry works. No one is obligated to explain why they did or did not take the highest offer, particularly when there are shall we say mitigating circumstances, which are quite easy to uncover.
     
    If they are easy to uncover, then it doesn’t sound like there is an easy way around.
  35. @Dan Hayes
    @International Jew

    Yes, the Hasidim were the only Whites who dared continue to live in Crown Heights long before it became currently fashionable for Yuppie homesteaders! They continued to live in CHs even after Mayor Dinkin's sanctioned program!

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Gary in Gramercy

    I couldn’t read the entire article, as it’s behind the NYT paywall. For all I know, the writer may have mentioned this possibility, but who other than the Lubavitcher Hasidim (who typically have lots of children, and are always looking for more space in which to raise them) are going to buy a nearly \$2 million house in Crown Heights? A white yuppie couple with that kind of money can probably buy a brownstone in the nicer parts of Park Slope (although by this point, Cobble Hill — and perhaps even Carroll Gardens — may be out of reach if you want something more than a mere sliver of a house).

    If a nice Lubavitcher couple comes to Mr. Holley with an all-cash offer for \$1.5 million or so, and the ability to close quickly, he’ll jump at it. His duty is to his blood relatives, not “The Community.”

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Gary in Gramercy

    It's a 12 room duplex brownstone on a gorgeous street.

    Replies: @Bannon, @Daniel H

    , @ATBOTL
    @Gary in Gramercy


    ...a nice Lubavitcher couple...
     
    Lubavitchers are nice? Not in my experience. They are some of the biggest jerks you could ever meet.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @SaneClownPosse

  36. @Eddie The Swarthy Rat Cellar
    W/O DeepState diversity bullying, blacks in US would be living in shacks.

    Replies: @Clyde, @shortstroke

    look at the black income and employment rate now and then think what it would look like without all the government AA jobs.

  37. sorry, steve u also have to replace “Crown Heights” with a plausible neighborhood for ur scenario.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Who can forget when Whites rioted against Blacks in Crown Heights in 1991?

    Replies: @Kana

  38. Dr. Faber noted first and foremost that “these longtime homeowners should be congratulated and appropriately compensated for these investments they made in these neighborhoods when White households were fleeing decades ago.”

    Wow. So they admit that Whites were forced to flee from black violence.

  39. • Replies: @Forbes
    @Desiderius

    Yesterday' counter-culture is today's monolithic thinking--it's the same politics of the Left.
    Yesterday's Left rebels are today's Left establishment--they just dress slightly better today.

  40. anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Observator
    Somehow I don’t think a black ne’er-do-well is going to be able to afford a two million dollar mortgage. And if you don’t think there are ways around the “fair housing” regulations you don’t know much about how the real estate industry works. No one is obligated to explain why they did or did not take the highest offer, particularly when there are shall we say mitigating circumstances, which are quite easy to uncover.

    The urban neighborhood I live in is one in which property values have skyrocketed. Now it’s full of snooty young white professionals from the suburbs, not an improvement over Italian bus drivers and Portuguese factory workers if you ask me. But that’s the free market, right, the very one we as happy sheep are supposed not to notice is really neither free nor strictly speaking a real market at all.

    Replies: @anonymous

    And if you don’t think there are ways around the “fair housing” regulations you don’t know much about how the real estate industry works. No one is obligated to explain why they did or did not take the highest offer, particularly when there are shall we say mitigating circumstances, which are quite easy to uncover.

    If they are easy to uncover, then it doesn’t sound like there is an easy way around.

  41. At the heart of all this is a very simple conundrum based upon the following two hypothetical, word-of-mouth descriptions:

    1. That neighborhood/school is almost all black.
    2. That neighborhood/school is almost all white.

    Despite all the quests for “diversity” and detergent commercials with interracial couples, the VAST majority of home buyers will try to run from neighborhood #1, and try to settle in neighborhood #2. That basic fact is driving everything — it is not complex.

    Gentrification is just the sub-case when other factors driving value up overwhelm the problem with #1. But it it weren’t for the Great Condundrum, there wouldn’t be desirable locations that became all black to start with. Things would be smoothed out all over.

    • Agree: gandydancer
  42. @ScarletNumber
    I knew something was up since the last white bus driver from Brooklyn was Ralph Kramden.

    ---

    Here are the links to Jacquelynn Kerubo's Twitter feed, as well as the NYT's Twitter post for the story:

    https://twitter.com/jakki_kerubo

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1428174917464436736

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Expletive Deleted, @AndrewR, @Achmed E. Newman

    In the style of New Yorker Jerry Seinfeld, “oh, they’ll grapple!” “How ’bout you, George?” “Oh, yeah. Put me down for some of that grappling.”

    Who wouldn’t grapple with it and sell for what the damn house is worth on the market? It’s not like they are even hurting anyone by doing this. It’d be a different dilemma, aka “grappling”, if they were White people ruining the neighborhood by letting in black thugs.

    Oh, and yeah, I got the idea right away from the “Find-and-Replace” in the headline. I am pretty sure Steve wanted to telegraph this so that he wouldn’t be seen as deliberately fooling people. This method of presenting the story does drive home the hypocrisy, that’s for sure.

  43. As the parent of an autistic son I think it would be helpful to consider the extent to which the Exceptional in American Exceptionalism is akin to the Special in Special Needs in order to achieve a more robust understanding of the present moment in history.

    • Replies: @donut
    @Desiderius

    In what I assume is the spirit of your comment :

    https://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/667c23dd4ba2.gif

  44. @countenance
    Okay, does this mean that NYT writers and employees are going to stop gentrifying New York neighborhoods?

    Replies: @Prester John, @bomag

    Shh…! Nobody is supposed to know.

  45. @Anonymous
    sorry, steve u also have to replace "Crown Heights" with a plausible neighborhood for ur scenario.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Who can forget when Whites rioted against Blacks in Crown Heights in 1991?

    • Replies: @Kana
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve:

    Your article is entirely factual and based in history if you changed it to my parents selling their Fred Trump-built East Flatbush home in 1978 after the Summer of Sam and Blackout of 1977. Leaving while taking a financial loss, with their tails between their legs after several murders in the neighborhood. Real Estate Agents sending out flyers to white basically saying “you don’t want to be the last ones on your block, do you?”

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

  46. @Gary in Gramercy
    @Dan Hayes

    I couldn't read the entire article, as it's behind the NYT paywall. For all I know, the writer may have mentioned this possibility, but who other than the Lubavitcher Hasidim (who typically have lots of children, and are always looking for more space in which to raise them) are going to buy a nearly $2 million house in Crown Heights? A white yuppie couple with that kind of money can probably buy a brownstone in the nicer parts of Park Slope (although by this point, Cobble Hill -- and perhaps even Carroll Gardens -- may be out of reach if you want something more than a mere sliver of a house).

    If a nice Lubavitcher couple comes to Mr. Holley with an all-cash offer for $1.5 million or so, and the ability to close quickly, he'll jump at it. His duty is to his blood relatives, not "The Community."

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @ATBOTL

    It’s a 12 room duplex brownstone on a gorgeous street.

    • Replies: @Bannon
    @Steve Sailer

    The apartment should have always remained valuable in a well-situated urban neighborhood. It should have been on an upward vector since the 1950's.

    , @Daniel H
    @Steve Sailer

    The Brooklyn Brownstone is a con, a merciless money pit. Must be avoided. Yes, the facades are absolutely beautiful, but behind is a creaky, honeycomb of decaying stick frame and dessicating heavy plaster, with turn of the century (19th/20th century) electrical and plumbing infrastructure. The simplest of contractor tasks are an ordeal. And your neighbors' problems are YOUR problems. No thanks, you can have it.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @cityview

  47. @mmack
    Steve,

    Somewhat related, yet somewhat off topic, I saw this story and wanted to post it for your commentary.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/peoria-il-real-estate/

    “The strange summer land rush in Peoria’s dying south end”

    “PEORIA, Ill. — A block that had once been home to more than 100 people was down to six who lived amid the ruins of another era. There were gaping holes in roofs and crumbling foundations. Some houses were so bad that even the squatters had quit on them, and now only raccoons and rodents sought them out for shelter.

    And then, for reasons that no one in Peoria could fathom, people from all over America began snapping them up. By early summer, seven houses on this block of West Lincoln Avenue had sold to buyers from Los Angeles, San Diego, Long Island, Tacoma, Wash., and other far-off places.”

    Take a gander at who is buying these houses, and the financial situation some of these folks are in. You’ll notice a common thread across the stories of the buyers. Maybe it’s fodder for another post, maybe not.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @Prester John, @cityview, @gandydancer

    Because of the paywall I couldn’t access the WaPo article but I sort of grokked who you were talking about. I first noticed this sort of thing in Harlem, once the capital of Black America, but the phenomenon spread all over NYC–and, obviously, elsewhere.

    • Replies: @mmack
    @Prester John

    Here's an MSN Link that's not behind a paywall: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-strange-summer-land-rush-in-peoria-e2-80-99s-dying-south-end/ar-AANjAV8

    And another link: https://vnexplorer.net/the-strange-summer-land-rush-in-peorias-dying-south-end-er2021508433.html

    It's an eye opener in line with Steve's theme of "magic dirt" or "middle class markers". It's almost a cargo cult belief that owning land, any land, will bring well being.

    Replies: @Anon, @William Badwhite

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Prester John

    UCL in London is spending good money to document the tragic displacement of black (West Indian) culture from Brixton, which of course was a white British place before the late 1950s (Prime Minister John Major was raised there, just as Presidents GHWB and GWB lived in Compton).

    Same thing happened earlier in Notting Hill.

    https://uclurbanlab.medium.com/roger-robinson-on-the-actuality-of-gentrification-in-brixton-9619d3c734a8


    With the local space being populated by a new aesthetics of “middle-class modes of dress” and “hipster” stores for everything from stationery to “fromage and champagne”, local communities face microaggressions through looks and profiling from gentrifiers and new retailers. The places where local Black and Brown communities expressed their culture and stories begin to disappear. And they are increasingly given a “clear signal” that any new development and ‘improvement’ to the area is not for them.
     
    On the other hand, their kids aren't being robbed on the way home from school, nor are their elderly being mugged and killed by a different ethnic group. Those are the macroaggressions that historically constituted a clear signal that an area's not for white people. Give me microaggressions any day.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Anon
    @Prester John


    Because of the paywall ...
     
    The extensions Bypass Paywall and Extreme Paywall Bypass, for Chromium-based browsers, like Google Chrome and Microsoft Edge, can read the NYT, WaPo, LAT, and even the WSJ (after some weird flashing) as of now. You need to Google for their Github page, and the installation is more involved than extensions from the official extension pages.
  48. @Redneck farmer
    I bet a lot of people will be shocked when the NYT writes an article entitled "THAT'S IT!" gleefully describing how there are no more ADOS in NYC. Not gleefully maybe, but it's going to be obvious reading between the lines.

    Replies: @bigdicknick

    the nyt sure are passionate about diversity in other people’s neighborhoods, but not there own. reminds me of a certain country…hey which group controls the media again?

  49. @Altai
    Another fun one is to do to it to articles against mass tourism. Replace 'tourist' with 'immigrant'. I once saw the term 'social pollution' in one and thought that no better description existed of natives being pushed out of their social spaces and having their social environment fragmented by outsiders.

    Immigrants do all the things tourists do just the tourists have the good manners to go home and not make claims on the host country for themselves. It's almost like a psychological cleansing for progressives when they write articles on how annoying having lots of foreigners taking up space is, the vitriol. But it is reserved for tourists.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    … the tourists have the good manners to go home …

    I like your idea, Altai, but I have to add that lots of times the “tourist” don’t go home. That is a big part of illegal immigration of the Chinese and Indian variety. Tourist visas have time limits, but if a country is a stupid one and doesn’t have “exit control” (i.e., keeping track of who leaves), then it can’t really tell when tourists become immigrants. What makes it worse is that, once you get large numbers of any group, the illegal former tourists can mix in with no way in hell to go pick them out and send them home.

    Now, in a non-stupid country, like China, they have exit controls. If you have not left, they can come looking for you – there aren’t 5 million round-eyes all living together to where they can’t find you. From my own experience entering China from Macao to ZhuHai long ago, I saw how a SERIOUS country operates, in this case, with respect to worrisome Moslems – see “Chinese Immigration NON-Stupidity”.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Absolutely right!

    Here in Ecuador to make most purchases in stores and pharmacies, or to have a cell phone chip, or sometimes to buy a bus ticket, or to register in a hotel, you have to produce your cedula number, or if you don't have a cédula, then your passport number, so anybody who had overstayed a visa would leave a trail since the visa is electronically attached to the passport number.

    Your cédula number is similar to the social security number, and is also used for voting and accessing health services.

    People will freely give you their cedula number, so that, for example, you could deposit money to their bank account.

    I explained to an Ecuadorian that this seems very strange to an American, because we are urged to keep all social security numbers secret, apparently because they can be used to apply for a loan or credit card online under the name of the person who has the number.

    My Ecuadorian friend told me that the only way you could get a credit card in Ecuador would be to apply in person.

    Probably what the United States needs is to completely revamp its system of using state driver's licenses and social security cards as IDs, and start a better federal system.

    This could also be used to solve the problem of illegal hiring of foreigners.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Flip

    , @Altai
    @Achmed E. Newman

    A great example of group behaviours that are non-dependent on environment are African immigrant communities banding together to stop deportations of visa overstayings, banging objects and warning of officers and trying to stop them physically in both China and Europe.

    Though eventually the difficulty of the Chinese language and lack of prior instruction as well as an authoritarian regime unmoved by any NGO guff has apparently ended 'chocolate city' in Guangzhou and brought it down to a tiny enclave.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Lurker
    @Achmed E. Newman

    We're hit with a blizzard of terms - visa overstayers, refugees, economic migrants, students, asylum seekers, guest workers and others I'm sure.

    The mission is to get as many over the border as possible, settled down, breeding, voting.

    The words the regime uses are ultimately a smokescreen.

  50. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Who can forget when Whites rioted against Blacks in Crown Heights in 1991?

    Replies: @Kana

    Steve:

    Your article is entirely factual and based in history if you changed it to my parents selling their Fred Trump-built East Flatbush home in 1978 after the Summer of Sam and Blackout of 1977. Leaving while taking a financial loss, with their tails between their legs after several murders in the neighborhood. Real Estate Agents sending out flyers to white basically saying “you don’t want to be the last ones on your block, do you?”

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
    @Kana

    “Real Estate Agents sending out flyers to white basically saying “you don’t want to be the last ones on your block, do you?”

    Archie Bunker called the “black-busters”

  51. @Steve Sailer
    @Gary in Gramercy

    It's a 12 room duplex brownstone on a gorgeous street.

    Replies: @Bannon, @Daniel H

    The apartment should have always remained valuable in a well-situated urban neighborhood. It should have been on an upward vector since the 1950’s.

  52. @James N. Kennett
    OT. The British authorities were horrified to discover that a man who was on a rescue flight that had taken off from Kabul was on their "no-fly" list. How could they possibly deal with such an embarrassing and potentially dangerous situation? Simple! Remove him from the no-fly list, and release him in Birmingham.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9920025/Man-UKs-no-fly-watchlist-airlifted-Kabul-Birmingham-apparent-security-breach.html

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Peter D. Bredon

    It’s OK, James. Once they get settled in Minneapolis, they will be fully, FULLY vetted, FULLY, I tells ya, before they are put to work on the ramp servicing airplanes at MSP, or working at the TSA checking out White grannies, gays, and grandes for weapons, sometimes even grappling (with) them.

    They can be put to work alongside the Somalians already established there, with hopefully no friction among them, no, no friction at all. HR ladies will make sure of this.

    I mean “VETTED”, James, in all caps – arrest records, gun ownership, Afghani elementary school grades, time spent in the RTC (that’s detention, but it’s called the Responsible Thinking Center now, for, like clarity’s sake), all of it. FULLY! VETTED!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Achmed E. Newman


    They can be put to work alongside the Somalians already established there...
     
    I dare you to go home and tell Iman or Ayaan or Ilhan you just threw away her flight benefits. I'd rather take my chances on the compromised aircraft.



    https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1594126/ilhan-omar.jpg
  53. @Thoughts
    I paused for a long time and thought 'Is this made up?' when I read 1 "Surviving" Child and 6 Grandchildren along with Bus Driver as a job

    Then I got fed up and scrolled down to Steve's comment at the bottom and went

    Ha Ha Steve, Ha Ha

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Hypnotoad666, @Alfa158, @Alden

    I knew when I noticed “White” was capitalized but “black” wasn’t.

    • Thanks: bomag
  54. @Prester John
    @mmack

    Because of the paywall I couldn't access the WaPo article but I sort of grokked who you were talking about. I first noticed this sort of thing in Harlem, once the capital of Black America, but the phenomenon spread all over NYC--and, obviously, elsewhere.

    Replies: @mmack, @YetAnotherAnon, @Anon

    Here’s an MSN Link that’s not behind a paywall: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-strange-summer-land-rush-in-peoria-e2-80-99s-dying-south-end/ar-AANjAV8

    And another link: https://vnexplorer.net/the-strange-summer-land-rush-in-peorias-dying-south-end-er2021508433.html

    It’s an eye opener in line with Steve’s theme of “magic dirt” or “middle class markers”. It’s almost a cargo cult belief that owning land, any land, will bring well being.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @mmack

    Blacks did okay buying properties after they had forced white people out of decent housing. But when it comes to buying distressed properties they have to fix up, they're in over their heads. It looks like a lot of stimulus money went to buy those cruddy houses in Peoria.

    Maintenance, both physical and cultural, is what retains and increases value.

    , @William Badwhite
    @mmack

    From the MSN article:

    "For Culver....in Salt Lake City, where he worked as a barber and had scraped together enough cash to finance a 2016 Porsche SUV and buy a 1988 Chevy Caprice that he jacked up on 30-inch rims and drove with the windows down so he could hear screamed compliments from the sidewalk. To Culver, property was the “most ultimate thing you could own,” and the one big thing that had always seemed beyond his means"

    Mystery of the Wealth Gap solved.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  55. Another fleeing Yankee going to Florida. Great. Florida was GREAT in the late 1970s and early 1980s unless you happened to be in Miami when Carter dumped Cuban “refugees” aka jailbirds in the Miami-Fort Lauderdale area. St Pete-Clearwater-Tampa-Lakeland-Orlando area aka the I-4 corridor in the 1970s and early 1980s was BEAUTIFUL. Sure, it had its spots just like any area with any large population but it was a great place to live. This area in 2021 barely resembles the Bay Area of 20 years ago, much less the Golden Age of 40 years ago. Would I rather be in Florida than Brooklyn? Hell, at this point the only place I would take Brooklyn over are places like Detroit, Baltimore, Chicago or San FranSHITco. Yankee old timer would be much better off in the mountains of Tennessee, Georgia, or North Carolina. Hell, he might even find a fellow Yankee in these places now. Nashville is one the latest go to places for Yankees fleeing the North and Nashville is way Whiter than Orlando and probably much safer as well.

    • Replies: @Tony massey
    @Trinity

    I live in a retirement community of approx 104 persons and easily more than half are transplants.
    Just on my floor of 16 persons



    one is from nova Scotia(moved to ny when he was 17 back in the early 70s) one from San diego that moved here less than 10 years ago, another from Japan, he worked for the 🇺🇸 navy for like 40 years living all that time in California he visited someone here 5-6 years ago loved it and now he's a Tennessean, one from Illinois(he's my favorite person; he shares many many stories with me of how racist White Southerners are and his anecdotes are outrageous lies of the tissue thin variety...i don't think he even realizes just how much he's hated by the not very many actually real Southerners. One guy is from upstate NY. He constantly educates me on the great state of Tennessee as he has been in the state for nearly 8 years now. Also, he tells me stories about signs that he's seen in this fabulous state that say "don't let the sun set on your black ass" been hearing those stories from outsiders for as long as i can remember. I've got him completely hemmed in tho. After hours of relentless questioning i have at least one sign narrowed down to somewhere in the middle of the woods near crossville Tennessee. He swears he's seen the sign. 👌 that's a White supremacy symbol by the way. One more for effect...👌. Hmmm...a woman from of all places Vermont. Maybe the only person i have ever met from Vermont. She is actually a race realist. A nice lady but she knows all about it. Heard her say as much plenty of times. Lots more. She's about as White as a White person can get. She is very much for whiteness. Very Pro white is she. Funny but i kinda doubt having grown up in VT and doing pretty good for herself in life i find it hard to believe she's ever been around a darkie. She worked in HR forever tho and swears she worked with many darkies. She worked for some snowboard company in VT she says they made a big effort to hire darkies and apparently she didn't think much of their abilities. The very worst of the worst I haven't mentioned.
    Actually i will mention the worst imo. He's from Massachusetts. He's Also an extremely proud ivy leaguer. Gawd what an insufferable fucking ahole. His daughter(also an ivy leaguer if i heard Greg correctly at least once of the over 1000x he has reminded me she matriculated with our betters, ol Greg sure does love the fuck out of some Jews. He doesn't ever talk to me, in fact, makes a point to ignore me because i throw as much shit his way about ziohomos as i can. He calls himself a Zionist. I've thrown plenty of bombs his way. Why he cares about fucking Jews i can't get him to say. I've asked, whyyyyyy? i have no clue. Why does he care? Does going to school with ziohomos turn you stupid?
    Most I'm familiar with that are transplants are perfectly fine. I've Heard at least a few say they are grateful to live where they do and they should be.
    I Guess they can all go back to where they came from.
    More than half easily. When you look at who's actually from the local area it's almost no one. 1 guy on my floor is from a town about 25miles away and one other who grew up on the NC side of the border, which is about an hour from here, are the only locals from my floor. Nearly all are from elsewhere.
    You're more likely to meet someone from Michigan or California in Nashville than you are to meet someone from Tennessee. Middle Tennessee is occupied territory.

    , @Desiderius
    @Trinity

    Nashville is in the hands of the French Davidians. You’re better off in Knoxville or Cincinnati.

    Replies: @Tony massey

    , @E. Rekshun
    @Trinity

    Another fleeing Yankee going to Florida... old timer would be much better off in the mountains of Tennessee, Georgia, or North Carolina.

    My family started fleeing Massachusetts to FL in the mid-1970s, as did I in 1990. But by 1990, friends and family still working were relocating to southern NH, and those of retirement age were going to coastal southern Maine. Now it's NC and SC.

  56. Anonymous[579] • Disclaimer says:

    Reminds me of a (very funny) parody Twitter account a few years ago that auto-translated all DJT tweets with automatic positivity, e.g. “North Korea” became “The Joy People” IIRC.

    Can’t find it any more, only see a bunch of hackneyed Left-can’t-meme feeds praising vaccines and dancing nurses w/ utter sincerity.

    Normie schoolmarms ruined the fun Internets (well, that and all the smartphone pron)

  57. @Almost Missouri
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Agree. Suggested replacement headline for the NYT article:


    See How this Brooklyn Bus Driver Retired Early on Disability and Became a Multimillionaire Using This One Weird Trick!
     
    Only in America, as they say. You'd think the race boosters would would be jumping for joy at Mr. Holley's extraordinary good fortune. Not a bit of it, of course, there's always another angle in the race grievance industry.

    Dr. Faber noted first and foremost that “these longtime homeowners should be congratulated and appropriately compensated for these investments they made in these neighborhoods when [white] households were fleeing decades ago.”
     
    Well, technically, he inherited the house, so he didn't actually make the investment, his mother (or father?) did. Back before the [anti-]Civil Rights revolution, most blacks married, so the Holleys' home ownership was likely an artifact of the functional nuclear families that the liberals have worked so hard to eradicate.

    Tellingly, all three of the black homeownership examples in Ms. Kerubo's original article were acquired before the Fair Housing Act, which was supposedly going to turn all black families into homeowners. Similarly, elsewhere in in Ms. Kerubo's twitter feed is this NYT headline:


    Black homeownership rates are at their lowest since housing discrimination was made illegal 5 decades ago
     
    What a paradox for liberals! They tossed away the Constitution to give the poor blacks a leg up, and ... everything backfired. Of course it never occurred to them that legal separation may have had some benefits for blacks too. Ensconced in their own communities, blacks weren't outcompeted by other ethnic groups for housing stock. Black women had a better pick of black men when the men wouldn't outmarry to other ethnicities. Etc. But liberals could only whinge about the supposed "horrors of Jim Crow". Well, no worries, as Ms. Kerobu notes in her article, Biden has restored Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing, and it'll work for sure this time!

    Replies: @guest007, @Forbes, @Intelligent Dasein

    Odd to see anyone in 2021 arguing that Loving V Virginia was not decided correctly. Does anyone believe such positions are the way to win a majority in the U.S. along with legalizing housing discrimination and segregated schools.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @guest007

    I'm not trying to "win a majority", just to tell the truth. I would have decided Loving v. Virginia the same way, but the truth is, miscegenation hurts black women who want a black mate, and they won't be shy about telling you if you are a successful black man who has outmarried.

    More truth that may not win a majority:

    Historically, most conquering armies raped and enslaved or killed women in conquered lands. The Taliban may the first conquering army who, rather than tearing the clothes off captive women, ordered them to wear more clothing, and rather than abducting them into slavery, sent them home to tend their families. This is an unprecedented level of respect for women.

    The Taliban outlawed bacha bazi child rape and freed bacha bazi sex slaves. The US-led occupiers officially tolerated bacha bazi child rape and enabled child sex slavery.

  58. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Altai


    ... the tourists have the good manners to go home ...
     
    I like your idea, Altai, but I have to add that lots of times the "tourist" don't go home. That is a big part of illegal immigration of the Chinese and Indian variety. Tourist visas have time limits, but if a country is a stupid one and doesn't have "exit control" (i.e., keeping track of who leaves), then it can't really tell when tourists become immigrants. What makes it worse is that, once you get large numbers of any group, the illegal former tourists can mix in with no way in hell to go pick them out and send them home.

    Now, in a non-stupid country, like China, they have exit controls. If you have not left, they can come looking for you - there aren't 5 million round-eyes all living together to where they can't find you. From my own experience entering China from Macao to ZhuHai long ago, I saw how a SERIOUS country operates, in this case, with respect to worrisome Moslems - see "Chinese Immigration NON-Stupidity".

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Altai, @Lurker

    Absolutely right!

    Here in Ecuador to make most purchases in stores and pharmacies, or to have a cell phone chip, or sometimes to buy a bus ticket, or to register in a hotel, you have to produce your cedula number, or if you don’t have a cédula, then your passport number, so anybody who had overstayed a visa would leave a trail since the visa is electronically attached to the passport number.

    Your cédula number is similar to the social security number, and is also used for voting and accessing health services.

    People will freely give you their cedula number, so that, for example, you could deposit money to their bank account.

    I explained to an Ecuadorian that this seems very strange to an American, because we are urged to keep all social security numbers secret, apparently because they can be used to apply for a loan or credit card online under the name of the person who has the number.

    My Ecuadorian friend told me that the only way you could get a credit card in Ecuador would be to apply in person.

    Probably what the United States needs is to completely revamp its system of using state driver’s licenses and social security cards as IDs, and start a better federal system.

    This could also be used to solve the problem of illegal hiring of foreigners.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jonathan Mason


    Here in Ecuador to make most purchases in stores and pharmacies, or to have a cell phone chip, or sometimes to buy a bus ticket, or to register in a hotel, you have to produce your cedula number, or if you don’t have a cédula, then your passport number, so anybody who had overstayed a visa would leave a trail since the visa is electronically attached to the passport number.
     
    I do not like any of that Mark-of-the-Beast shit, Jonathan. (It's worse in China for the simple reason that they are not slack-assed Latin Americans, haha!)

    The idea is you control who COMES IN and who GOES OUT. That's simple. Then, there is no need for Revelation-style Orwellian stuff. You don't need check points on internal highways*. Look, I appreciate the interesting information , Jonathan, but, as I wrote before, you do not get the concept of a Constitutional Republic.

    .

    * I've written before, that, sure, if you get stopped for speeding or put in jail for assault within the US, then you will have your identity checked. If it comes out that you don't belong here, out you go, or after whatever jail time is involved. There are airlines that will do this work readily.
    , @Flip
    @Jonathan Mason


    This could also be used to solve the problem of illegal hiring of foreigners.
     
    It could be, but the powers that be (both Democrats and establishment Republicans) don't want to solve that problem.
  59. NYT is pushing this mean-spirited, racist, manipulative political messaging.

    The featured man, Thomas Holley, was treated very well by the real estate market. He must have a profit margin of over a million dollars. Good for him.

    Most reasonable people, care more about their future neighborhood, than the neighborhood that they are leaving. That’s doesn’t fit the NYT’s agenda, of course.

    I’m surprised and not surprised that wealthy, mostly-white, liberals, are paying to receive this type of mean and dishonest NYT messaging. The political motives are so obvious.

  60. My advice to black homeowners is to sell out now and you will get the most money. If you wait, the panic sets in and you will lose most of your life savings. White homeowners from the 60s would advise you to do so.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @flyingtiger

    I can't tell if this is a parody like iSteve's, Flying Tiger, after that 3rd sentence. As with solving inequalities, you have to change the sign around when you multiply by a negative. The negative here is black.

    My advice to a black homeowner would be to wait till you're the last black homeowner left on the block. Buyers will understand that now this is finally a safe neighborhood and the schools are suddenly good, and your house will command a premium. You won't even have to feel bad for selling, then, as all your homies are gone, hopefully not to that same white subdivision north of Orlando where your new abode is. "No, there is nothing for sale in Del Boca Vista. Not a thing!"

  61. @Jonathan Mason
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Absolutely right!

    Here in Ecuador to make most purchases in stores and pharmacies, or to have a cell phone chip, or sometimes to buy a bus ticket, or to register in a hotel, you have to produce your cedula number, or if you don't have a cédula, then your passport number, so anybody who had overstayed a visa would leave a trail since the visa is electronically attached to the passport number.

    Your cédula number is similar to the social security number, and is also used for voting and accessing health services.

    People will freely give you their cedula number, so that, for example, you could deposit money to their bank account.

    I explained to an Ecuadorian that this seems very strange to an American, because we are urged to keep all social security numbers secret, apparently because they can be used to apply for a loan or credit card online under the name of the person who has the number.

    My Ecuadorian friend told me that the only way you could get a credit card in Ecuador would be to apply in person.

    Probably what the United States needs is to completely revamp its system of using state driver's licenses and social security cards as IDs, and start a better federal system.

    This could also be used to solve the problem of illegal hiring of foreigners.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Flip

    Here in Ecuador to make most purchases in stores and pharmacies, or to have a cell phone chip, or sometimes to buy a bus ticket, or to register in a hotel, you have to produce your cedula number, or if you don’t have a cédula, then your passport number, so anybody who had overstayed a visa would leave a trail since the visa is electronically attached to the passport number.

    I do not like any of that Mark-of-the-Beast shit, Jonathan. (It’s worse in China for the simple reason that they are not slack-assed Latin Americans, haha!)

    The idea is you control who COMES IN and who GOES OUT. That’s simple. Then, there is no need for Revelation-style Orwellian stuff. You don’t need check points on internal highways*. Look, I appreciate the interesting information , Jonathan, but, as I wrote before, you do not get the concept of a Constitutional Republic.

    .

    * I’ve written before, that, sure, if you get stopped for speeding or put in jail for assault within the US, then you will have your identity checked. If it comes out that you don’t belong here, out you go, or after whatever jail time is involved. There are airlines that will do this work readily.

  62. Troy Apke is finding his spot with the Skins. Great gunner, position flex to safety. And literally the best white cornerback in the NFL. 😉

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anonymous

    Who cares?

    Unless you are black, or Woke bai-zuo, the NFL is not for you. In fact, it hates you.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  63. @countenance
    Okay, does this mean that NYT writers and employees are going to stop gentrifying New York neighborhoods?

    Replies: @Prester John, @bomag

    Reminds one of the adage:

    “No snowflake thinks they contributed to the avalanche.”

    • Replies: @Neuday
    @bomag


    “No snowflake thinks they contributed to the avalanche.”
     
    Meanwhile, this cold, White entity wonders why there hasn't yet been an avalanche.
  64. @Prester John
    @mmack

    Because of the paywall I couldn't access the WaPo article but I sort of grokked who you were talking about. I first noticed this sort of thing in Harlem, once the capital of Black America, but the phenomenon spread all over NYC--and, obviously, elsewhere.

    Replies: @mmack, @YetAnotherAnon, @Anon

    UCL in London is spending good money to document the tragic displacement of black (West Indian) culture from Brixton, which of course was a white British place before the late 1950s (Prime Minister John Major was raised there, just as Presidents GHWB and GWB lived in Compton).

    Same thing happened earlier in Notting Hill.

    https://uclurbanlab.medium.com/roger-robinson-on-the-actuality-of-gentrification-in-brixton-9619d3c734a8

    With the local space being populated by a new aesthetics of “middle-class modes of dress” and “hipster” stores for everything from stationery to “fromage and champagne”, local communities face microaggressions through looks and profiling from gentrifiers and new retailers. The places where local Black and Brown communities expressed their culture and stories begin to disappear. And they are increasingly given a “clear signal” that any new development and ‘improvement’ to the area is not for them.

    On the other hand, their kids aren’t being robbed on the way home from school, nor are their elderly being mugged and killed by a different ethnic group. Those are the macroaggressions that historically constituted a clear signal that an area’s not for white people. Give me microaggressions any day.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Immigrants were able to turn London into a mostly black and brown city because the white working class in London was as poor as dirt. Before World War 1, most working class whites made starvation wages. In the 1920s and 30s, they weren't much better off. Gradually, their wages improved a bit, but by that time the welfare state arrived and high taxes took a big chunk of those improved wages, leaving them only a little better off. Working class neighborhoods were still pretty poor when the great waves of immigrants arrived, and the housing was so cheap that immigrants could easily afford it.

    One of the reasons why the UK had a music boom in the 1960s is because a lot of white working class guys could make more money playing in a band than as a plumber's assistant. Wages were still so godawful that earning money on the side as a musician was a smart idea.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  65. OFF TOPIC— Sorry NYC, Minneapolis “Metro” is still the leading iSteve-content generator IN THE WORLD!

    Mosque bomber now identifies as a woman,
    says right-wing blogs fueled ‘inner conflict’ leading up to attack
    Says confusion, right-wing posts fed “inner conflict.”

    By Andy Mannix, StarTribune AUGUST 23, 2021 — 5:00PM

    The militia leader who’s facing life in prison for master­minding the bombing of a Minnesota mosque now identifies as a woman, according to court documents.

    Emily Claire Hari — previously known as Michael Hari — is asking a judge to legally acknowledge her transgender identity. Hari, 50, says a combination of gender dysphoria and right-wing misinformation fueled her “inner conflict” during the time that she was convicted of bombing Dar Al-Farooq Islamic Center in Bloomington.

    “She strongly desired making a full transition but knew she would be ostracized from everyone and everything she knew,” Hari’s defense attorney, Shannon Elkins, wrote in court documents. “Thus, as she formed a ragtag group of freedom fighters or militia men and spoke of missions to Cuba and Venezuela, Ms. Hari secretly looked up ‘sex change,’ ‘transgender surgery,’ and ‘post-op transgender’ on the Internet. As she purchased military fatigues for their ‘missions’ she also purchased dresses and female clothing for a planned trip to Bangkok, Thailand, for male-to-female surgery. She was living a double life.”

    Elkins cites these as factors in asking U.S. District Judge Donovan Frank to give Hari no more than a 30-year prison sentence — the mandatory minimum for Hari’s conviction — and not the life term sought by prosecutors. She has also asked for an amended prison placement based on her transgender identity, but the details of the request are under seal. Elkins could not be reached for comment.

    In December, a jury found Hari, of Clarence, Ill., guilty on civil rights and hate crimes charges related to bombing the mosque. Throughout the 2 ½-week trial in St. Paul, prosecutors for Minnesota’s U.S. Attorney’s Office described Hari as a hater of Islam and immigrants who viewed both as threats to American culture. After the 2016 election of Donald Trump, Hari bid on a federal government contract to build the U.S.-Mexico border wall, which Hari viewed as a symbol of protecting American values. Hari later graduated to violent action, manipulating uneducated and financially vulnerable men from Hari’s rural community to help “harass the untouchables.”

    The list of targets included the Dar Al-Farooq Islamic Center in Bloomington, which Hari told acolytes served as a training and recruiting ground for ISIS.

    Still, Elkins said, at the time of the attack, Hari was influenced by misinformation and conspiracies published by right-wing blogs like Breitbart, World Net Daily and Jihad Watch, and amplified by unnamed elected officials, according to court documents. “This degrading, anti-Muslim, and Islamophobic rhetoric and misinformation has spread throughout the United States over the past several years through social media and the internet,” Elkins wrote.

    Elkins also asks the judge to consider Hari’s advanced age as reason for a 30-year sentence to be sufficient.

    “Emily Hari is more than a one-note caricature,” said Elkins. “She is a complex human being who has been convicted by a jury of her peers. She will stand before this Court for sentencing, facing life in prison. She asks the Court to consider a sentence that is just and proportionate rather than vindictive or symbolic.”

    Hari’s sentencing is scheduled for Sept. 13.

    • Thanks: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @ATBOTL
    @Jack Armstrong


    ...spoke of missions to Cuba and Venezuela...
     
    This person was a neocon/counter jihad/imperialist type, not someone connected to the alt-right or pro-white movement.

    We are seeing a growing trend of boomer mainstream conservative getting militant without embracing white nationalism and traditional "far right" ideology. There are now three "colorblind" civnat type militia groups operating nationally - the Oath-Keepers, 3%ers and Proud Boys. At the same time, real white nationalists are staying away from public confrontations and militant rhetoric.

    Replies: @rebel yell

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack Armstrong


    The militia leader who’s facing life in prison for master­minding the bombing of a Minnesota mosque now identifies as a woman, according to court documents.

     

    You'd think an insanity defense would have been a slam dunk. But not in the present environment.

    Yeah, a real girly girl, this hairy Hari:


    https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/3225493_031618-wls-iteam-hari-img.jpg


    Another typical American terrorist

    In an Amish hat!

    , @Bill Jones
    @Jack Armstrong

    And if she self identified as a Jewish woman, she could keep the moustache.

  66. Pretty sure the “no Afghans at the airport” was the part he was negotiating.

    • Replies: @Matttt
    @Desiderius

    Zabihullah Mujahid = God's sacrifice, the holy warrior. I wonder if that's his real name.

  67. There is no country happy with blacks, any kind.

    But, perhaps the most stupid form of “racism” is the religious variant. For instance, these Israeli football fans are “racist” against some white players who may or may not be technically Jewish; on the other hand, they’re OK with truly black Jewish players.

    They’re dumber than American white Christian fundamentalists…

    • Agree: El Dato
  68. So ethnic solidarity of blacks trumps ethnic non-Solidarity of Whites, but in the end the blacks lose to the hyper ethnic solidarity of the Jews.

    Must be some moral to be gleaned here.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Gordo

    Perhaps, but in modern times Jews are, to put it that way, nationally stupid.

    Their historical experience in the past, say 500 years may have served them well to preserve their identity. But, if you behave discriminatorily against some people who have, say, Ukrainian or Russian Jewish father and non-Jewish mother & these people are atheists, and they don't care about Jewish religious customs, but can be won over culturally (language, army, identity,..)- and you alienate them, calling them bastards & not recognize them as full ethnic Jews, then, you're an idiot. Most of them won't go through a conversion process they don't believe in.

    These men & women will eventually move out, fed up with Jewish religious narrow-mindedness, saying goodbye to all that.

    On the other hand, if you treat Ethiopian "Jews" as real co-ethnics, you'll end up screwing yourself.

    , @anon
    @Gordo

    Must be some moral to be gleaned here.

    Sure.

    Tribalism is powerful. Tribes can exploit high-trust inner Hajnal line societies rather efficiently. Some tribes are better at the exploitation than others. Tribal members are more loyal to their tribe than to the larger, inner Hajnal line society, so a kind of "tragedy of the commons" eventually results as each tribe seeks to exploit the host society more than other tribes.

    There is more, but that's the starting point. Don't tell the blank slatists or the civ nats, though, their faith is stronger than fact.

  69. Related:

    Rs on this are paid to stay or paid to lose. The Sailer Strategy is a winning one for everyone but those whose salary depends on donors and lobbyists.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @Desiderius

    Ben Sasse is trying to bring 50,000 Afghans to Nebraska. What sectors of the Nebraska economy does he think will benefit from this? How does he expect this to improve quality of life in the state? Ben's answers are "who cares, this is who we are!" He does make a good cautionary tale for never electing a college administrator to high office.

    Replies: @Known Fact

  70. But now fully retired from his transit job as a bus operator and having suffered health setbacks — a heart attack and spinal surgery — he wants to trade in the brownstone for more quiet and all-year sunshine at the condo he purchased in 2017 in a Florida suburb north of Orlando.

    A retired black bus driver has a \$2 million house in the city (a family inheritance) and a summer residence (dacha). Black government workers are the new nobility.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Matttt

    Living in an Orlando suburb is a fate worse than death.

    , @F. Galton
    @Matttt

    So true. Were it not for systemic racism, our protagonist would be a billionaire instead of just a millionaire.

    And how about a little gratitude for America (and its White administrators) from this guy? Retiring to a condo north of Orlando, indeed.

  71. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1430161569103613955?s=20

    Pretty sure the “no Afghans at the airport” was the part he was negotiating.

    Replies: @Matttt

    Zabihullah Mujahid = God’s sacrifice, the holy warrior. I wonder if that’s his real name.

  72. @AndrewR
    @Expletive Deleted

    Whites moving out, blacks in = white flight (bad)

    Whites moving in, blacks out = gentrification (bad)

    Whites and blacks staying where they are = segregation (bad)

    Really makes you think....

    Replies: @HallParvey

    Just causes headaches.

  73. With the universal ID card you could also solve the whole problem of people having to register to vote.

    Once a person voted in an election, no matter where, they would not be able to vote anywhere else in the same election.

    If someone voted using a dead person’s card, then eventually that would be found out and could be investigated, but as soon as a death was reported their ID number would be deactivated.

    Considering that after more than 200 years of the Republic , several states are still tweaking their voting laws, that is an admission that they still haven’t got it right in the quest for free and fair elections. Maybe a radically different approach is needed.

    I don’t really understand what you are suggesting. How do you prevent people from overstaying tourist visas by monitoring people leaving the country unless you have some way of finding them and removing them.

    Waiting until they get a speeding ticket does not seem to be a very satisfactory way of doing things.

    Also I do not think that the United States is very efficient at removing people from the country when they have overstayed. Yes, people who have committed felonies and been in prison are released to aftercare in their country of origin, but that only covers a tiny fraction of illegal overstayers and does nothing to prevent people from overstaying.

    My father, being a UK citizen, wanted to overstay his six-month tourist visa some years ago, so he took a day trip to the Bahamas, but was disappointed to find that neither the Bahamas nor the United States stamped his passport when entering or leaving!

    • Replies: @epebble
    @Jonathan Mason

    I think you may not be aware of complexity of U.S. elections. Where I live, I may be in 5 separate districts for different offices. U.S. Representative, State Representative, State Senator, County Supervisor, City Councilor (if I am in a City, I am not - I am in an Unincorporated area). Then you have School district, Water district, Fire district, Sewer district etc.,. In a typical election, my county may have up to 250+ variations on the ballots. Registration can't be replaced by a ID card. Otherwise, everybody (citizens) can be issued a Passport card and the problem will go away. In fact it is quite easy to do since we already have a Social Security card that has to be shown for a new job, Driver license, getting a mortgage etc., The Federal government can simply merge Social security card with the Passport card.


    https://media.cntraveler.com/photos/5717f9d680cf3e034f9741a7/16:9/w_1280,c_limit/passport-card-sample.jpg

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @anon

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jonathan Mason

    You're being deliberately obtuse again, at least for part of this, Mr. Mason. States could EASILY have fair elections with ID required. People have driver's licenses, and they can get another ID if they don't drive. It should not be this national Illuminati ID (a lost friend's term) that they've been pushing - luckily on hold due to COVID (yeah, COVID!). If you don't want to vote or drive, you shouldn't have to have ANY ID.

    The reason secure voting is not done is only because the ctrl-left wants to keep the cheating going, right through the time they've got all their replacement votes lined up. That's like, last year.


    How do you prevent people from overstaying tourist visas by monitoring people leaving the country unless you have some way of finding them and removing them.
     
    See, that was 2 points in one - first, you implement exit control. Then, you don't allow a massive invasion of people. Ooops, part 2 is already lost. However, if you built secure borders, implemented exit controls, and enforced what you could, you will put the fear in those illegals using this method that they MAY get caught and it's not worth it to try. Of course, harboring an illegal is a crime too, so maybe if a country actually enforced that, aliens would get turned in.*

    This goes right along with the idea that directly deporting anyone found to be illegally in the country during a traffic stop, court date for an eviction, what-have-you, will be a deterrent. Lots, maybe most, of the people from Mexico and Guatemala will self-deport, knowing that they are on borrowed time.

    .

    * There are plenty of people here legally who resent those who've gotten around the bureaucratic system. You may even be one of them, right?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    , @Ralph L
    @Jonathan Mason

    several states are still tweaking their voting laws, that is an admission that they still haven’t got it right in the quest for free and fair elections.

    You assumed that's the goal? Haha.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

  74. @Desiderius
    As the parent of an autistic son I think it would be helpful to consider the extent to which the Exceptional in American Exceptionalism is akin to the Special in Special Needs in order to achieve a more robust understanding of the present moment in history.

    Replies: @donut

    In what I assume is the spirit of your comment :

    • LOL: Desiderius
  75. The government should not be allowed to benefit from gentrification, e.g. spikes in assessed values. Residential property taxes should be set at a flat rate of \$50 per 1,000 sq ft of house.

    Gentrification or not, the neighborhood school stays crappy. I know a family that paid up for a small home on a turning, terrible block. They still used a friend’s address, 45 minutes away, for school registration.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @Abolish_public_education

    The first gentrifiers are generally gay men and artistic types looking for someplace cheaper. They don't care about the schools very much.

    This is true both for inner city gentrification and for rural artist colonies.

    In city locations, the next group are usually young single straight men who are large and strong enough not to be much of a target. Later young single women, gay or straight, will arrive.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anonymous

  76. Anonymous[141] • Disclaimer says:

    Anyone know of a high signal to noise milblog or foreign policy site covering the Afghan situation? I don’t mind a conservative slant, but looking for solid info and smart analysis/speculation. Not just the yuck, yuck Rush Limbaugh style throw stuff at Biden crap.

    (I don’t watch Fox or CNN or read the newspaper.)

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anonymous

    If something like that exists, it is sure to be moderated; likely to be invitation only; and definitely not the kind of group that would allow itself to be revealed via comments on an open site like this one.

    So...good luck on that.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  77. @International Jew
    Never mind that at one time Crown Heights was all white, and was 70% white even in 1960. So the same rule that applies to the Oscars applies to neighborhoods.


    Bottom line, the real Mr. Holley doesn't want more Hasidic Jews moving in to Crown Heights, but being old and frail he's unable to stop them by traditional means — attacking them on the street.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Bugg, @3g4me

    The article, at least the portions not behind a paywall, doesn’t mention Hasidic Jews. Eastern Parkway is dominated by Jews, and 30 years ago this week, there was a full scale riot between blacks and Jews when Rabbi Schneerson’s car struck and killed a Carribean boy, whereupon a gang of blacks stabbed an Hasidic guy to death (Lemrick Nelson was acquitted in state court of murder and convicted in federal court of civil rights violations; 2 sovereigns trumped double jeopardy, another day , another rant about trampling on the Constitution when ever government chooses to do so). Mr. Holley also doesn’t mention he almost certainly bought his home 58 years ago from an Irish or Italian family fleeing the wonderful black people , who turned the non-Hasidic part of Crown Heights into a dump.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @Bugg


    The article, at least the portions not behind a paywall, doesn’t mention Hasidic Jews.
     
    I searched the entire article for "jew", "hasid", "hassid", "chasid" and "chassid": nada, gurnisht.
  78. This was well done, but anyone familiar with Crown Heights would have been clued in instantly.

  79. @flyingtiger
    My advice to black homeowners is to sell out now and you will get the most money. If you wait, the panic sets in and you will lose most of your life savings. White homeowners from the 60s would advise you to do so.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I can’t tell if this is a parody like iSteve’s, Flying Tiger, after that 3rd sentence. As with solving inequalities, you have to change the sign around when you multiply by a negative. The negative here is black.

    My advice to a black homeowner would be to wait till you’re the last black homeowner left on the block. Buyers will understand that now this is finally a safe neighborhood and the schools are suddenly good, and your house will command a premium. You won’t even have to feel bad for selling, then, as all your homies are gone, hopefully not to that same white subdivision north of Orlando where your new abode is. “No, there is nothing for sale in Del Boca Vista. Not a thing!”

  80. @Jonathan Mason
    With the universal ID card you could also solve the whole problem of people having to register to vote.

    Once a person voted in an election, no matter where, they would not be able to vote anywhere else in the same election.

    If someone voted using a dead person's card, then eventually that would be found out and could be investigated, but as soon as a death was reported their ID number would be deactivated.

    Considering that after more than 200 years of the Republic , several states are still tweaking their voting laws, that is an admission that they still haven't got it right in the quest for free and fair elections. Maybe a radically different approach is needed.

    I don't really understand what you are suggesting. How do you prevent people from overstaying tourist visas by monitoring people leaving the country unless you have some way of finding them and removing them.

    Waiting until they get a speeding ticket does not seem to be a very satisfactory way of doing things.

    Also I do not think that the United States is very efficient at removing people from the country when they have overstayed. Yes, people who have committed felonies and been in prison are released to aftercare in their country of origin, but that only covers a tiny fraction of illegal overstayers and does nothing to prevent people from overstaying.

    My father, being a UK citizen, wanted to overstay his six-month tourist visa some years ago, so he took a day trip to the Bahamas, but was disappointed to find that neither the Bahamas nor the United States stamped his passport when entering or leaving!

    Replies: @epebble, @Achmed E. Newman, @Ralph L

    I think you may not be aware of complexity of U.S. elections. Where I live, I may be in 5 separate districts for different offices. U.S. Representative, State Representative, State Senator, County Supervisor, City Councilor (if I am in a City, I am not – I am in an Unincorporated area). Then you have School district, Water district, Fire district, Sewer district etc.,. In a typical election, my county may have up to 250+ variations on the ballots. Registration can’t be replaced by a ID card. Otherwise, everybody (citizens) can be issued a Passport card and the problem will go away. In fact it is quite easy to do since we already have a Social Security card that has to be shown for a new job, Driver license, getting a mortgage etc., The Federal government can simply merge Social security card with the Passport card.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @epebble


    The Federal government can simply merge Social security card with the Passport card.
     
    There you go. Good idea. Then you have a cedula.

    And once everyone has an ID number, then it can be put to all kinds of excellent uses.

    For example with a cedula number anyone in Ecuador over the age of 65 can get a refund on any of the 12% sales/consumption tax they pay--up to $250 per month, and get 50% discounts on all public transportation within the country, 50% off cell phone bills, movie tickets, and on international flights on some airlines.

    People in the US would positively want a national ID card if there were associated benefits on things Americans like, like lower income tax rates and discounts at Disney, and half price airport parking.

    Replies: @epebble

    , @anon
    @epebble

    I think you may not be aware of complexity of U.S. elections.

    I think you may not be aware that Mason is just a boring troll who enjoys taking the piss from Yanks.

  81. Almost got me, but “Crown Heights” and capitalizing hwite.

  82. At the core of the article, I got the sense that what the writer really wants is for someone to buy these houses from the owners at market rates, and then give them to black people to live in and own.

  83. @Jonathan Mason
    With the universal ID card you could also solve the whole problem of people having to register to vote.

    Once a person voted in an election, no matter where, they would not be able to vote anywhere else in the same election.

    If someone voted using a dead person's card, then eventually that would be found out and could be investigated, but as soon as a death was reported their ID number would be deactivated.

    Considering that after more than 200 years of the Republic , several states are still tweaking their voting laws, that is an admission that they still haven't got it right in the quest for free and fair elections. Maybe a radically different approach is needed.

    I don't really understand what you are suggesting. How do you prevent people from overstaying tourist visas by monitoring people leaving the country unless you have some way of finding them and removing them.

    Waiting until they get a speeding ticket does not seem to be a very satisfactory way of doing things.

    Also I do not think that the United States is very efficient at removing people from the country when they have overstayed. Yes, people who have committed felonies and been in prison are released to aftercare in their country of origin, but that only covers a tiny fraction of illegal overstayers and does nothing to prevent people from overstaying.

    My father, being a UK citizen, wanted to overstay his six-month tourist visa some years ago, so he took a day trip to the Bahamas, but was disappointed to find that neither the Bahamas nor the United States stamped his passport when entering or leaving!

    Replies: @epebble, @Achmed E. Newman, @Ralph L

    You’re being deliberately obtuse again, at least for part of this, Mr. Mason. States could EASILY have fair elections with ID required. People have driver’s licenses, and they can get another ID if they don’t drive. It should not be this national Illuminati ID (a lost friend’s term) that they’ve been pushing – luckily on hold due to COVID (yeah, COVID!). If you don’t want to vote or drive, you shouldn’t have to have ANY ID.

    The reason secure voting is not done is only because the ctrl-left wants to keep the cheating going, right through the time they’ve got all their replacement votes lined up. That’s like, last year.

    How do you prevent people from overstaying tourist visas by monitoring people leaving the country unless you have some way of finding them and removing them.

    See, that was 2 points in one – first, you implement exit control. Then, you don’t allow a massive invasion of people. Ooops, part 2 is already lost. However, if you built secure borders, implemented exit controls, and enforced what you could, you will put the fear in those illegals using this method that they MAY get caught and it’s not worth it to try. Of course, harboring an illegal is a crime too, so maybe if a country actually enforced that, aliens would get turned in.*

    This goes right along with the idea that directly deporting anyone found to be illegally in the country during a traffic stop, court date for an eviction, what-have-you, will be a deterrent. Lots, maybe most, of the people from Mexico and Guatemala will self-deport, knowing that they are on borrowed time.

    .

    * There are plenty of people here legally who resent those who’ve gotten around the bureaucratic system. You may even be one of them, right?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Hi


    * There are plenty of people here legally who resent those who’ve gotten around the bureaucratic system. You may even be one of them, right?
     
    I think the United States and other nations should take effective steps to prevent illegal immigration. The US is by no means the only country that has illegal immigrants.

    Many people want to live in different countries from the ones that they were born in. For example a huge number of US citizens who have served in its military now want to live on their disability pensions in Southeast Asia or South America and require residency visas to do so.

    Many people from low-wage countries want to live in the United States, which has high wages, at least for a few years, so that they can save money to build a home or start a business.

    The US has a shortage of labor, so many businesses are willing to hire foreigners at the lower end of the wage scale, even if they don't have papers. This is, however, rarely the case with doctors and engineers, which the US also needs.

    Just today there is a widely published story about McDonald's fast food chain having no milkshakes on the menu at this time in the UK. Apparently the reason is a shortage of qualified truck drivers! I imagine that immigrants from countries that drive on the left side of the road would be most welcome!

    (Here in Ecuador I can go to the market and find a dozen places selling milkshakes all made to order using fresh fruit so the question of HGV drivers does not arise as fruits are transported by pickup trucks.)

    All nations should have fair and equitable and consistent ways of admitting or expelling foreigners according to their needs.

    Although it is unlikely to ever happen, a global ID card with a unique ID number would be extremely useful to reduce bureaucracy and increase freedom of movement.

    People in France have an ID card for their medical Care, and a doctor just has to swipe their card to bring up their entire medical record. A (voluntary) world citizen card with a fingerprint for people who want international mobility would probably make life easier for a lot of people.

    I think such things will eventually come. It is easy to forget that personal computers, cell phones, the internet and so on I've only been invented since I was already an adult. Many changes will occur over the next 50 years. When my grandparents were born there were no cars or planes, but look at us now!

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Achmed E. Newman, @Stan Adams

  84. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Altai


    ... the tourists have the good manners to go home ...
     
    I like your idea, Altai, but I have to add that lots of times the "tourist" don't go home. That is a big part of illegal immigration of the Chinese and Indian variety. Tourist visas have time limits, but if a country is a stupid one and doesn't have "exit control" (i.e., keeping track of who leaves), then it can't really tell when tourists become immigrants. What makes it worse is that, once you get large numbers of any group, the illegal former tourists can mix in with no way in hell to go pick them out and send them home.

    Now, in a non-stupid country, like China, they have exit controls. If you have not left, they can come looking for you - there aren't 5 million round-eyes all living together to where they can't find you. From my own experience entering China from Macao to ZhuHai long ago, I saw how a SERIOUS country operates, in this case, with respect to worrisome Moslems - see "Chinese Immigration NON-Stupidity".

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Altai, @Lurker

    A great example of group behaviours that are non-dependent on environment are African immigrant communities banding together to stop deportations of visa overstayings, banging objects and warning of officers and trying to stop them physically in both China and Europe.

    Though eventually the difficulty of the Chinese language and lack of prior instruction as well as an authoritarian regime unmoved by any NGO guff has apparently ended ‘chocolate city’ in Guangzhou and brought it down to a tiny enclave.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Altai

    Agreed, and that last part gets right to my point. China is a serious country. They know they've got overstayers and they come get them. About a decade ago, they came for some African in Canton (OK, Guangzhou, whatever) and the guy ran away, including out a 2nd story window. I'm not sure if he died, but this caused a riot of the Africans there. Then, the Chinese figured "enough is enough". Perhaps your story from Europe doesn't end the same way.

  85. @Matttt

    But now fully retired from his transit job as a bus operator and having suffered health setbacks — a heart attack and spinal surgery — he wants to trade in the brownstone for more quiet and all-year sunshine at the condo he purchased in 2017 in a Florida suburb north of Orlando.
     
    A retired black bus driver has a $2 million house in the city (a family inheritance) and a summer residence (dacha). Black government workers are the new nobility.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @F. Galton

    Living in an Orlando suburb is a fate worse than death.

  86. @donut
    OT :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHXdzZe8X90

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind

    A self-recruiting elite that reserves for itself political power?

    Higher education in the United States?

  87. @Matttt

    But now fully retired from his transit job as a bus operator and having suffered health setbacks — a heart attack and spinal surgery — he wants to trade in the brownstone for more quiet and all-year sunshine at the condo he purchased in 2017 in a Florida suburb north of Orlando.
     
    A retired black bus driver has a $2 million house in the city (a family inheritance) and a summer residence (dacha). Black government workers are the new nobility.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @F. Galton

    So true. Were it not for systemic racism, our protagonist would be a billionaire instead of just a millionaire.

    And how about a little gratitude for America (and its White administrators) from this guy? Retiring to a condo north of Orlando, indeed.

  88. @Altai
    @Achmed E. Newman

    A great example of group behaviours that are non-dependent on environment are African immigrant communities banding together to stop deportations of visa overstayings, banging objects and warning of officers and trying to stop them physically in both China and Europe.

    Though eventually the difficulty of the Chinese language and lack of prior instruction as well as an authoritarian regime unmoved by any NGO guff has apparently ended 'chocolate city' in Guangzhou and brought it down to a tiny enclave.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Agreed, and that last part gets right to my point. China is a serious country. They know they’ve got overstayers and they come get them. About a decade ago, they came for some African in Canton (OK, Guangzhou, whatever) and the guy ran away, including out a 2nd story window. I’m not sure if he died, but this caused a riot of the Africans there. Then, the Chinese figured “enough is enough”. Perhaps your story from Europe doesn’t end the same way.

  89. @Jonathan Mason
    With the universal ID card you could also solve the whole problem of people having to register to vote.

    Once a person voted in an election, no matter where, they would not be able to vote anywhere else in the same election.

    If someone voted using a dead person's card, then eventually that would be found out and could be investigated, but as soon as a death was reported their ID number would be deactivated.

    Considering that after more than 200 years of the Republic , several states are still tweaking their voting laws, that is an admission that they still haven't got it right in the quest for free and fair elections. Maybe a radically different approach is needed.

    I don't really understand what you are suggesting. How do you prevent people from overstaying tourist visas by monitoring people leaving the country unless you have some way of finding them and removing them.

    Waiting until they get a speeding ticket does not seem to be a very satisfactory way of doing things.

    Also I do not think that the United States is very efficient at removing people from the country when they have overstayed. Yes, people who have committed felonies and been in prison are released to aftercare in their country of origin, but that only covers a tiny fraction of illegal overstayers and does nothing to prevent people from overstaying.

    My father, being a UK citizen, wanted to overstay his six-month tourist visa some years ago, so he took a day trip to the Bahamas, but was disappointed to find that neither the Bahamas nor the United States stamped his passport when entering or leaving!

    Replies: @epebble, @Achmed E. Newman, @Ralph L

    several states are still tweaking their voting laws, that is an admission that they still haven’t got it right in the quest for free and fair elections.

    You assumed that’s the goal? Haha.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Ralph L


    You assumed that’s the goal? Haha.
     
    I am being extremely charitable in assuming that the legislators who have enacted these laws believe this to be the case, though I am not sure that I would necessarily agree.

    Anyway changing the laws regarding voting is an admission that the previous laws were inadequate, even after 200 years of constant refinement.
  90. @Gordo
    So ethnic solidarity of blacks trumps ethnic non-Solidarity of Whites, but in the end the blacks lose to the hyper ethnic solidarity of the Jews.

    Must be some moral to be gleaned here.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @anon

    Perhaps, but in modern times Jews are, to put it that way, nationally stupid.

    Their historical experience in the past, say 500 years may have served them well to preserve their identity. But, if you behave discriminatorily against some people who have, say, Ukrainian or Russian Jewish father and non-Jewish mother & these people are atheists, and they don’t care about Jewish religious customs, but can be won over culturally (language, army, identity,..)- and you alienate them, calling them bastards & not recognize them as full ethnic Jews, then, you’re an idiot. Most of them won’t go through a conversion process they don’t believe in.

    These men & women will eventually move out, fed up with Jewish religious narrow-mindedness, saying goodbye to all that.

    On the other hand, if you treat Ethiopian “Jews” as real co-ethnics, you’ll end up screwing yourself.

  91. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jonathan Mason

    You're being deliberately obtuse again, at least for part of this, Mr. Mason. States could EASILY have fair elections with ID required. People have driver's licenses, and they can get another ID if they don't drive. It should not be this national Illuminati ID (a lost friend's term) that they've been pushing - luckily on hold due to COVID (yeah, COVID!). If you don't want to vote or drive, you shouldn't have to have ANY ID.

    The reason secure voting is not done is only because the ctrl-left wants to keep the cheating going, right through the time they've got all their replacement votes lined up. That's like, last year.


    How do you prevent people from overstaying tourist visas by monitoring people leaving the country unless you have some way of finding them and removing them.
     
    See, that was 2 points in one - first, you implement exit control. Then, you don't allow a massive invasion of people. Ooops, part 2 is already lost. However, if you built secure borders, implemented exit controls, and enforced what you could, you will put the fear in those illegals using this method that they MAY get caught and it's not worth it to try. Of course, harboring an illegal is a crime too, so maybe if a country actually enforced that, aliens would get turned in.*

    This goes right along with the idea that directly deporting anyone found to be illegally in the country during a traffic stop, court date for an eviction, what-have-you, will be a deterrent. Lots, maybe most, of the people from Mexico and Guatemala will self-deport, knowing that they are on borrowed time.

    .

    * There are plenty of people here legally who resent those who've gotten around the bureaucratic system. You may even be one of them, right?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    Hi

    * There are plenty of people here legally who resent those who’ve gotten around the bureaucratic system. You may even be one of them, right?

    I think the United States and other nations should take effective steps to prevent illegal immigration. The US is by no means the only country that has illegal immigrants.

    Many people want to live in different countries from the ones that they were born in. For example a huge number of US citizens who have served in its military now want to live on their disability pensions in Southeast Asia or South America and require residency visas to do so.

    Many people from low-wage countries want to live in the United States, which has high wages, at least for a few years, so that they can save money to build a home or start a business.

    The US has a shortage of labor, so many businesses are willing to hire foreigners at the lower end of the wage scale, even if they don’t have papers. This is, however, rarely the case with doctors and engineers, which the US also needs.

    Just today there is a widely published story about McDonald’s fast food chain having no milkshakes on the menu at this time in the UK. Apparently the reason is a shortage of qualified truck drivers! I imagine that immigrants from countries that drive on the left side of the road would be most welcome!

    (Here in Ecuador I can go to the market and find a dozen places selling milkshakes all made to order using fresh fruit so the question of HGV drivers does not arise as fruits are transported by pickup trucks.)

    All nations should have fair and equitable and consistent ways of admitting or expelling foreigners according to their needs.

    Although it is unlikely to ever happen, a global ID card with a unique ID number would be extremely useful to reduce bureaucracy and increase freedom of movement.

    People in France have an ID card for their medical Care, and a doctor just has to swipe their card to bring up their entire medical record. A (voluntary) world citizen card with a fingerprint for people who want international mobility would probably make life easier for a lot of people.

    I think such things will eventually come. It is easy to forget that personal computers, cell phones, the internet and so on I’ve only been invented since I was already an adult. Many changes will occur over the next 50 years. When my grandparents were born there were no cars or planes, but look at us now!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jonathan Mason

    Again, I can't tell if you are being purposefully obtuse or just are innumerate this time. Do you know the difference in MAGNITUDE of the immigration to the US, Canada, Australia, Sweden, France, and Germany compared to immigration to a place like Ecuador? I mean the magnitude of the proportion of the population that comes in each year.

    Legal immigration in large numbers isn't any better than illegal immigration in large numbers. You tell me one country outside the developed Western world that takes in (well, is FORCED to take in) 1/2 to 1% of their population in foreigners each year.


    Many people want to live in different countries from the ones that they were born in.
     
    So what? They are a drop in the bucket. Tell me how much of Thailand's, Costa Rica's, Belize's (favorites of American ex-pats) , or Ecuador's populations are made of these ex-pats. What percentage of each country is foreign from anywhere? Do you understand that 15% of the people living here right now were born elsewhere?

    Drops in the bucket of ex-pats and/or well under 1% assimilating foreigners in a DECADE is not the same as the invasion that the Western nations are undergoing.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @anon

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jonathan Mason

    Regarding the Orwellian electronics, sure, the IBM 386 was an amazing thing that would not have been imagined by your average guy 20 years earlier. So what, the IBM 386 wasn't powerful enough to record one's whole life and upload it to other computers. Look at us now, Big Brother! What CAN be abused, WILL be abused.

    It's unAmerican to support random traffic stops or a national ID of any kind*. It's even unner-American to support a world ID or world government. Since you're kind of unAmerican on all that and MORE, tell me if you are planning on staying in Ecuador. I had assumed you hadn't decided whether to mover down there or not yet.

    Finally, regarding immigration and this "labor shortage", perhaps business can offer higher wages. That would have avoided so much grief. I've been reading VDare for almost 20 decades. There's nothing you could possibly teach me about the politics of immigration, Jonathan.


    .


    * Good American Libertarian questioned FDR and that crowd when they were implementing SS, back in the day. They were told "no, of course it's not going to turn into a national ID number."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Stan Adams
    @Jonathan Mason


    Many people want to live in different countries from the ones that they were born in.
     
    You are one of them, obviously. You are English, and yet you choose not to live in England.

    How is it that a Brit currently residing in Ecuador has come to regard himself as the world's leading authority on America?

    Vox Day (an American ex-pat living in Italy) has popularized the term midwit to describe a particularly annoying personality type - someone with slightly higher-than-average intelligence who mistakenly believes he's a genius. This person walks around thinking that he has all the answers to everything. He's extremely generous with unsolicited advice.

    The midwit is a generally happy fellow, sustained by his cheerful contempt for his intellectual lessers. His greatest weakness is that when he is confronted with evidence that maybe, just maybe, he doesn't know everything there is to know about everything, or maybe, just maybe, there are other people in the world who are just as smart as him or - no, it's inconceivable - how could anyone be even smarter than ME?!? ... he shuts down. He can't process the humiliation. It's too much for him. So he withdraws into his little fantasy bubble, closes his eyes, sticks his fingers in his ears, and chants, "I can't hear you! I can't see you! I still know better than you!" Then he goes back to posting his walls of text.

    I find that this concept explains the posting habits of certain iSteve commenters. Perhaps others do as well.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Jonathan Mason

  92. Anon[177] • Disclaimer says:
    @mmack
    @Prester John

    Here's an MSN Link that's not behind a paywall: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-strange-summer-land-rush-in-peoria-e2-80-99s-dying-south-end/ar-AANjAV8

    And another link: https://vnexplorer.net/the-strange-summer-land-rush-in-peorias-dying-south-end-er2021508433.html

    It's an eye opener in line with Steve's theme of "magic dirt" or "middle class markers". It's almost a cargo cult belief that owning land, any land, will bring well being.

    Replies: @Anon, @William Badwhite

    Blacks did okay buying properties after they had forced white people out of decent housing. But when it comes to buying distressed properties they have to fix up, they’re in over their heads. It looks like a lot of stimulus money went to buy those cruddy houses in Peoria.

    Maintenance, both physical and cultural, is what retains and increases value.

  93. I could tell something was off by the first sentence: “White..owners …have to grapple with … White displacement.”

    Normal people don’t “grapple” with that and don’t care who buys their house; anti-white racists like the guy in the article, and the article’s author, are another matter.

  94. @Abolish_public_education
    The government should not be allowed to benefit from gentrification, e.g. spikes in assessed values. Residential property taxes should be set at a flat rate of $50 per 1,000 sq ft of house.

    Gentrification or not, the neighborhood school stays crappy. I know a family that paid up for a small home on a turning, terrible block. They still used a friend’s address, 45 minutes away, for school registration.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    The first gentrifiers are generally gay men and artistic types looking for someplace cheaper. They don’t care about the schools very much.

    This is true both for inner city gentrification and for rural artist colonies.

    In city locations, the next group are usually young single straight men who are large and strong enough not to be much of a target. Later young single women, gay or straight, will arrive.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Paleo Liberal

    Agreed. Except for the gays and artists it sounds like the same way you would settle some new land in hostile Indian country or colonize a new world. It's kinda like that, come to think of it...

    , @Anonymous
    @Paleo Liberal

    Saw this go down in parts of Richmond. Although we sort of skipped the gays in Church Hill. And used lesbians along with straight men in Oregon Hill.

  95. Anon[239] • Disclaimer says:

    This sort of article makes it clear that being able to do skilled work with your hands enables working white class guys to get an economic edge over upper-middle class white guys. The working class guy buys a distressed property he fixes up, whereas the upper-middle class white guy, who can’t do more than change a light bulb, buys a million dollar house because that’s all he can find in his area that doesn’t need fixing up. His lack of handiness and mechanical skill ultimately is an economic handicap that costs him a fortune.

    • Disagree: Abolish_public_education
  96. Anon[246] • Disclaimer says:
    @Prester John
    @mmack

    Because of the paywall I couldn't access the WaPo article but I sort of grokked who you were talking about. I first noticed this sort of thing in Harlem, once the capital of Black America, but the phenomenon spread all over NYC--and, obviously, elsewhere.

    Replies: @mmack, @YetAnotherAnon, @Anon

    Because of the paywall …

    The extensions Bypass Paywall and Extreme Paywall Bypass, for Chromium-based browsers, like Google Chrome and Microsoft Edge, can read the NYT, WaPo, LAT, and even the WSJ (after some weird flashing) as of now. You need to Google for their Github page, and the installation is more involved than extensions from the official extension pages.

    • Thanks: YetAnotherAnon
  97. By the way- Ivans & Lis are destroying US elites with death-rays …

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/case-havana-syndrome-vietnam-delays-vice-president-harriss/story?id=79618335

    Possible case of ‘Havana syndrome’ in Vietnam delays Vice President Harris’ visit

    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/24/politics/kamala-harris-vietnam/index.html

    Possible Havana syndrome incident delayed Harris flight to Vietnam
    ………………………………………….

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jun/02/microwave-weapons-havana-syndrome-experts

    Microwave weapons that could cause Havana Syndrome exist, experts say

  98. @Intelligent Dasein
    Finding and replacing the racial designations only obscures what should be the main point, viz. this guy did pretty darn good for a bus driver. No generation before ever had such opportunity, nor likely will again. If anybody under 40 actually read the New York Times, they would be livid.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @TomBarrera, @Anonymous Jew

    the article says he inherited from his mother. Crown Height btw has been “diversified” since the 1950’s, the only whites that stuck around were Jewish

  99. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    He took his wife and kids to Afghanistan one last time. Now he can’t get them out.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/08/24/philadelphia-family-afghanistan-a

    Afghan guy works for the U.S. for five years, which apparently got visas for him, his wife, and their five kids to immigrate to the U.S. in 2019. Now his wife and kids are stuck in Afghanistan and cannot get out. The Washington Post wants us to feel sorry for him.

    How did getting a relatively cushy job for an Afghan for five years obligate the U.S. to feel like it owed him and six others American citizenship, ultimately? Why are we giving it away so cheaply. The job was something he should have felt grateful about not the U.S.

    His wife and kids are staying with his brother back in Afghanistan. Why do I think the brother also is going to end up in the U.S., along with who knows how many other relatives?

    • Replies: @Matttt
    @Anon

    I have a general rule of thumb: the country you "go back" to is your home. If you "go back" to Afghanistan to visit family and friends, you're Afghan. If you "go back" to Nigeria to visit family and friends, you're Nigerian. If you "go back" to the US, you're American.

    Instead of trying to get his foreign family to come to *our* home, Mohammad should say goodbye to all the other non-Americans at the refugee agency where he works, pack his bags, and go back to his home.

  100. @Almost Missouri
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Agree. Suggested replacement headline for the NYT article:


    See How this Brooklyn Bus Driver Retired Early on Disability and Became a Multimillionaire Using This One Weird Trick!
     
    Only in America, as they say. You'd think the race boosters would would be jumping for joy at Mr. Holley's extraordinary good fortune. Not a bit of it, of course, there's always another angle in the race grievance industry.

    Dr. Faber noted first and foremost that “these longtime homeowners should be congratulated and appropriately compensated for these investments they made in these neighborhoods when [white] households were fleeing decades ago.”
     
    Well, technically, he inherited the house, so he didn't actually make the investment, his mother (or father?) did. Back before the [anti-]Civil Rights revolution, most blacks married, so the Holleys' home ownership was likely an artifact of the functional nuclear families that the liberals have worked so hard to eradicate.

    Tellingly, all three of the black homeownership examples in Ms. Kerubo's original article were acquired before the Fair Housing Act, which was supposedly going to turn all black families into homeowners. Similarly, elsewhere in in Ms. Kerubo's twitter feed is this NYT headline:


    Black homeownership rates are at their lowest since housing discrimination was made illegal 5 decades ago
     
    What a paradox for liberals! They tossed away the Constitution to give the poor blacks a leg up, and ... everything backfired. Of course it never occurred to them that legal separation may have had some benefits for blacks too. Ensconced in their own communities, blacks weren't outcompeted by other ethnic groups for housing stock. Black women had a better pick of black men when the men wouldn't outmarry to other ethnicities. Etc. But liberals could only whinge about the supposed "horrors of Jim Crow". Well, no worries, as Ms. Kerobu notes in her article, Biden has restored Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing, and it'll work for sure this time!

    Replies: @guest007, @Forbes, @Intelligent Dasein

    Is that Ms. Kerobu or Miss Caribou? Better than being called a water buffalo, I suppose…

  101. @Thoughts
    I paused for a long time and thought 'Is this made up?' when I read 1 "Surviving" Child and 6 Grandchildren along with Bus Driver as a job

    Then I got fed up and scrolled down to Steve's comment at the bottom and went

    Ha Ha Steve, Ha Ha

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Hypnotoad666, @Alfa158, @Alden

    “ 1 “Surviving” Child and 6 Grandchildren along with Bus Driver as a job”
    I read that and immediately knew that Steve had replaced Black with White.

  102. @International Jew
    Never mind that at one time Crown Heights was all white, and was 70% white even in 1960. So the same rule that applies to the Oscars applies to neighborhoods.


    Bottom line, the real Mr. Holley doesn't want more Hasidic Jews moving in to Crown Heights, but being old and frail he's unable to stop them by traditional means — attacking them on the street.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Bugg, @3g4me

    @14 International Jew: Jews (particular Hasidic ones) are not equivalent to European Whites. And Hasidic hostility to Christian Whites is at least equal to if not greater than Mr. Holley’s hostility to said Jews. Christian White Europeans are not moving back to New York or any other large city. Those few Whites and the other “fellow Whites” who do so are not my concern and do not have my sympathy for any subsequent ethnic and racial consequences. They are not my people.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @3g4me

    You shouldn't get hung up on who likes you. Voodoo and evil spells aren't real.

    And Jews are more European than Hungarians, if you want to go by length of residence in Europe.

  103. @Anonymous
    Troy Apke is finding his spot with the Skins. Great gunner, position flex to safety. And literally the best white cornerback in the NFL. ;-)

    Replies: @anon

    Who cares?

    Unless you are black, or Woke bai-zuo, the NFL is not for you. In fact, it hates you.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @anon

    I feel ya dude. The steroids bother me also. It's rife. Like WWE almost. (Although I don't think the winners are scripted.) I go through periods of tuning it out and just working out and doing my own health. Dropped a lot of weight and gained 10# muscle. Makes a huge difference. But then I backslide. I mean...it is the male version of a soap opera. A guilty pleasure. And it really is a fascinating game. Patton called it the closest approximation to military battle.

  104. @Gordo
    So ethnic solidarity of blacks trumps ethnic non-Solidarity of Whites, but in the end the blacks lose to the hyper ethnic solidarity of the Jews.

    Must be some moral to be gleaned here.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @anon

    Must be some moral to be gleaned here.

    Sure.

    Tribalism is powerful. Tribes can exploit high-trust inner Hajnal line societies rather efficiently. Some tribes are better at the exploitation than others. Tribal members are more loyal to their tribe than to the larger, inner Hajnal line society, so a kind of “tragedy of the commons” eventually results as each tribe seeks to exploit the host society more than other tribes.

    There is more, but that’s the starting point. Don’t tell the blank slatists or the civ nats, though, their faith is stronger than fact.

    • Agree: Gordo
  105. @Intelligent Dasein
    Finding and replacing the racial designations only obscures what should be the main point, viz. this guy did pretty darn good for a bus driver. No generation before ever had such opportunity, nor likely will again. If anybody under 40 actually read the New York Times, they would be livid.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @TomBarrera, @Anonymous Jew

    The decline in median wage plus the appreciation of housing in metro areas – even red metro areas – has really screwed over most Americans. At least the majority that did not see their wages increase due to the technology (ie engineers et al). In the 1950’s, it wasn’t unusual for middle class families to own two cars that cost more than their house. Now even the exurbs in red state metros aren’t close to that cheap.

    The \$64,000 question, at least for us crimethinkers, is how much post-1965 immigration is to blame.

    Admittedly, Park Slope is an extreme example of real estate appreciation. The one I’m most familiar with is San Francisco. For many years we rented in the Outer Sunset, a once working class Irish neighborhood. Most homes were nearly identical: post-war row houses with 2bd 1ba roughly 1,200 sq ft up top with a garage and unfinished space on the ground floor (though most were remodeled, usually to add square footage downstairs). As I type, the typical going price for these houses, even with no improvements, is \$1.1 – 1.3 million.

    So in the Outer Sunset you had many working class Irish versions of the story above. Patrick McMurphy works at the local grocery store, and when he’s finally ready to retire in Florida he cashes out to the Chinese and ends up well ahead of many engineers in his generation. Not bad, and it’s not happening to another generation anytime soon.

    Last thought – imagine what would happen to real estate prices in 50 years with an immigration moratorium and below-replacement fertility?

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @Anonymous Jew

    It's endlessly frustrating to me that more people aren't talking about this. The economic condition of America is far and away the most interesting and important topic affecting us right now.

    If the American people so desired it, they have it within their power to wrest their country and their liberty back from the oligarchs. It all begins with deleveraging.

    My simple, popular proposal goes something like this: Just pick one day a week and commit to not spending any money. Do not go shopping, do not order anything online, do not go out to eat. Hey, why not make it Sunday, the traditional sabbath day of Christians, when we aren't supposed to do those things anyway? Then, take the money you saved by not shopping and use it to retire some debt. Make an extra principal payment on your mortgage or auto loan, or pay down a credit card. Start sending deflationary vibrations through the system so that the bankers start getting scared.

    After enough people commit to this, then we can start talking about really changing the culture. Stop spending money on socially disruptive and wasteful things like professional sports. Stop using social media (the "network effect" is a two-edged sword; once a critical mass of people begin leaving Facebook and Twitter, they have sharply reduced the utility that those venues possess for those that remain, which will precipitate an avalanche of defections and cause these nasty companies to collapse). Do not order anything from Amazon and, in general, boycott all the "disruptors" and parasitical sharing service companies. Defer the purchase of anything you can live without, until you can pay for it outright. End the education racket by forming homeschooling co-ops and never, ever borrow money to pay for college. If possible, do not go to college in the first place; find a way to learn a marketable trade outside of the school system.

    The end result of all this will be a great deflationary collapse like 2008. Yes, we will have to deal with the unemployment and bankruptcy this will result in, but someday we're going to have to deal with that anyway. We might as well get going on it. This is the only way to flush the zombiefication and market distortions out of the system and depose the vampires who benefit from them.

    We need a real populist uprising of the financial sort. It has been struggling to break out for years now, waiting for a leader. It provided a great deal of the energy to Trump's 2016 campaign but clearly Trump did not understand it and was not suited for it. The next Trump will not be an orange buffoon but a serious Caesar striking at the heart of the Optimates. We have a duty to make straight his paths.

    Replies: @epebble, @Jonathan Mason, @F. Galton

  106. Anon[239] • Disclaimer says:
    @YetAnotherAnon
    @Prester John

    UCL in London is spending good money to document the tragic displacement of black (West Indian) culture from Brixton, which of course was a white British place before the late 1950s (Prime Minister John Major was raised there, just as Presidents GHWB and GWB lived in Compton).

    Same thing happened earlier in Notting Hill.

    https://uclurbanlab.medium.com/roger-robinson-on-the-actuality-of-gentrification-in-brixton-9619d3c734a8


    With the local space being populated by a new aesthetics of “middle-class modes of dress” and “hipster” stores for everything from stationery to “fromage and champagne”, local communities face microaggressions through looks and profiling from gentrifiers and new retailers. The places where local Black and Brown communities expressed their culture and stories begin to disappear. And they are increasingly given a “clear signal” that any new development and ‘improvement’ to the area is not for them.
     
    On the other hand, their kids aren't being robbed on the way home from school, nor are their elderly being mugged and killed by a different ethnic group. Those are the macroaggressions that historically constituted a clear signal that an area's not for white people. Give me microaggressions any day.

    Replies: @Anon

    Immigrants were able to turn London into a mostly black and brown city because the white working class in London was as poor as dirt. Before World War 1, most working class whites made starvation wages. In the 1920s and 30s, they weren’t much better off. Gradually, their wages improved a bit, but by that time the welfare state arrived and high taxes took a big chunk of those improved wages, leaving them only a little better off. Working class neighborhoods were still pretty poor when the great waves of immigrants arrived, and the housing was so cheap that immigrants could easily afford it.

    One of the reasons why the UK had a music boom in the 1960s is because a lot of white working class guys could make more money playing in a band than as a plumber’s assistant. Wages were still so godawful that earning money on the side as a musician was a smart idea.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Anon

    "housing was so cheap that immigrants could easily afford it"

    Everyone could easily afford it. Not so now. Affordable family formation for Brits has been trashed by vast amounts of credit, ever-widening wealth differentials thanks to Thatcher's tax cuts for the high-paid, mass immigration and increased female employment - all of which have driven up house prices from around 3-4 times median male earnings to 8 times median male earnings.

    There were a few other helping hands in the 1970s, when mostly Labour councils demolished tens of thousands of perfectly good Victorian terraced homes, especially in Northern England.

  107. @notsaying
    It is a source of amazement to me to see Whites pouring in to live and buy homes in places in New York they never would have even set foot in just a few years ago. Compare what they do with real estate -- which is buy up or rent whatever they want without caring one bit about the minorites they are pushing out with nowhere in New York to go -- with what they say about equity and every other Woke notion and it makes my head spin.

    One of those Woke notions is that Blacks have been robbed for over 100 years because their property was valued less. They demand that Blacks be paid just as much as Whites for equivalent properties. They ignore the fact that most Blacks have to buy low or not buy at all. It is clear to me that the only way to keep Blacks in homes is to keep the prices much lower as long as they are making much less than Whites.

    In every seller vs. buyer tug of war, it seems sellers always win and that is happening here, too.

    This is another issue, similar to immigration, that Black leaders are all supporting policies that rob their own voters. They should support keeping minority neighborhoods as is, although as a practical matter I don't know how we could reverse the current situation now. Supporting much higher property prices is not quite as stupid as supporting lots more immigration -- Black sellers do benefit as they make buying impossible for other Blacks -- but it is crazy.

    Replies: @Forbes

    This gentrification has been going on in NYC for nearly three decades–since Giuliani turned the tide on crime. (Crown Heights is famous for a 1991 riot that started the downfall of Mayor Dinkins.)

    The writer Caribou is a transplant, so it’s a novel experience for her–just like all the 20-something college grads the NYT hires (or freelances), i.e. the city is new and exciting to them, so they write a “story.” Actual reporting of facts and details gets lost in the perspective of championing a cause with advocacy.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Forbes


    The writer Caribou is a transplant...

     

    Hey, lay off our coffee franchise.

    "Nairobi Jade" has written about the "weathering" and misogynoir [!] so-called "Black" women have to go through. She and her husband went through IVF treatment. It finally worked, but she went through depression. The solution? Treatment via Zoom with a therapist back home in Kenya.

    Perhaps had she stayed home with mom (who can't leave because the consulates are restricted) rather than chasing the almighty buck in NYC, she wouldn't have delayed and would have a passel of young Nairobians today.


    Jacquelynn Kerubo = Jury on black queen?

    (And what's with Jacque- "lynn"? Jacqueline is the feminine of Jacques, French for Jacob and James. But plenty of white Americans make the same error, so I'll leave her mom alone.)


    https://www.self.com/story/black-women-and-infertility

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  108. Meanwhile, Biden IS what democrats feared Trump was, but they’re too neurotic to know it:

    https://nypost.com/2021/08/24/biden-says-us-will-stick-to-aug-31-afghanistan-deadline/

    Tips on writing about all progressive Democrats. First, think of a man…

  109. Hey, for all the articles about blacks not having savings or equity look at this guy! A freaking bus driver* with a brownstone in NYC and a condo in Florida. But I am willing to bet he doesn’t own a BMW or a Benz with 20″ chrome spinner rims and a shoe rack ladened with \$600 sneakers. Priorities!*In most metro areas it is rare to see a White bus driver, so this life style can be done.

    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    @Buffalo Joe

    I have no problem with private sector bus drivers, truckers, Ubers, etc.

    I oppose public mass transit in every way, shape and form. From the guys who fix the subway tracks, to school/MTA bus drivers, to the Port Authority of NY/NJ, to Kennedy Airport.

  110. anon[307] • Disclaimer says:

    so you can bet that pdx prices will keep going up. the whitest big city in the country. or maybe the retards downtown and the urban campers will drive people away. and it’s got no world class education like seattle has uwash.

    this is what will happen. whitopias will swell. as they have been swelling. when the swelling goes down there’ll be mountains of ash.

    • Replies: @Neuday
    @anon

    There are dozens, possibly hundreds of Whitopias in the PNW; I live in one. But they're nearly all semi-rural or ultra rural, and modern America is addicted to either living in a city or living within 45 minutes of one. There are other ways to live, but they're generally not as lucrative or as easy. What do you want out of life?

  111. @Paleo Liberal
    @Abolish_public_education

    The first gentrifiers are generally gay men and artistic types looking for someplace cheaper. They don't care about the schools very much.

    This is true both for inner city gentrification and for rural artist colonies.

    In city locations, the next group are usually young single straight men who are large and strong enough not to be much of a target. Later young single women, gay or straight, will arrive.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anonymous

    Agreed. Except for the gays and artists it sounds like the same way you would settle some new land in hostile Indian country or colonize a new world. It’s kinda like that, come to think of it…

  112. @Desiderius
    Related:

    https://twitter.com/ScottMGreer/status/1430162249235173393?s=20

    Rs on this are paid to stay or paid to lose. The Sailer Strategy is a winning one for everyone but those whose salary depends on donors and lobbyists.

    Replies: @Barnard

    Ben Sasse is trying to bring 50,000 Afghans to Nebraska. What sectors of the Nebraska economy does he think will benefit from this? How does he expect this to improve quality of life in the state? Ben’s answers are “who cares, this is who we are!” He does make a good cautionary tale for never electing a college administrator to high office.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Barnard

    Meat-packers? Corn de-tasselers? Husker linemen?

  113. They are caused, he said, “by forces that move property, like speculative real estate purchasing, the consolidation of rental properties, zoning laws, mortgage markets. All of these things are far more influential than the individual homeowner.”

    Cool it with the anti-semitism.

  114. Pop singers and feminism will be the death of us all.

    Muslims will bring back traditional norms. At least in Western Europe.

  115. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/NEETWorldOrder/status/1430001583144718338?s=20

    Replies: @Forbes

    Yesterday’ counter-culture is today’s monolithic thinking–it’s the same politics of the Left.
    Yesterday’s Left rebels are today’s Left establishment–they just dress slightly better today.

  116. @Clyde
    @bonin41


    milk crate challenge....
     
    This is like getting tattoos. Painful, dumb, you will regret them. This and tattoos are usually done when you are high and have a friend or two to egg you on.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    This is like getting tattoos. Painful, dumb, you will regret them. This and tattoos are usually done when you are high and have a friend or two to egg you on.

    When the Bums move back to Brooklyn– the ultimate in gentrification– this guy can always let his hair grow back:

  117. @bomag
    @countenance

    Reminds one of the adage:

    "No snowflake thinks they contributed to the avalanche."

    Replies: @Neuday

    “No snowflake thinks they contributed to the avalanche.”

    Meanwhile, this cold, White entity wonders why there hasn’t yet been an avalanche.

  118. @anon
    so you can bet that pdx prices will keep going up. the whitest big city in the country. or maybe the retards downtown and the urban campers will drive people away. and it's got no world class education like seattle has uwash.

    this is what will happen. whitopias will swell. as they have been swelling. when the swelling goes down there'll be mountains of ash.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfCufFRo-hU&ab_channel=Movieclips

    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/D4kAAOSw~bxf6p~m/s-l400.jpg

    Replies: @Neuday

    There are dozens, possibly hundreds of Whitopias in the PNW; I live in one. But they’re nearly all semi-rural or ultra rural, and modern America is addicted to either living in a city or living within 45 minutes of one. There are other ways to live, but they’re generally not as lucrative or as easy. What do you want out of life?

  119. @mmack
    @Prester John

    Here's an MSN Link that's not behind a paywall: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-strange-summer-land-rush-in-peoria-e2-80-99s-dying-south-end/ar-AANjAV8

    And another link: https://vnexplorer.net/the-strange-summer-land-rush-in-peorias-dying-south-end-er2021508433.html

    It's an eye opener in line with Steve's theme of "magic dirt" or "middle class markers". It's almost a cargo cult belief that owning land, any land, will bring well being.

    Replies: @Anon, @William Badwhite

    From the MSN article:

    “For Culver….in Salt Lake City, where he worked as a barber and had scraped together enough cash to finance a 2016 Porsche SUV and buy a 1988 Chevy Caprice that he jacked up on 30-inch rims and drove with the windows down so he could hear screamed compliments from the sidewalk. To Culver, property was the “most ultimate thing you could own,” and the one big thing that had always seemed beyond his means”

    Mystery of the Wealth Gap solved.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @William Badwhite

    William. thank you. Good comment. Possessions are not the same as property but these people don't understand that. A 2016 Porsche SUV that starts to depreciate the minute it leaves the lot is not an investment. Rims are not stocks or bonds but hey who yell compliments about your portfolio. And we are supposed to bring these people even.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

  120. @Gary in Gramercy
    @Dan Hayes

    I couldn't read the entire article, as it's behind the NYT paywall. For all I know, the writer may have mentioned this possibility, but who other than the Lubavitcher Hasidim (who typically have lots of children, and are always looking for more space in which to raise them) are going to buy a nearly $2 million house in Crown Heights? A white yuppie couple with that kind of money can probably buy a brownstone in the nicer parts of Park Slope (although by this point, Cobble Hill -- and perhaps even Carroll Gardens -- may be out of reach if you want something more than a mere sliver of a house).

    If a nice Lubavitcher couple comes to Mr. Holley with an all-cash offer for $1.5 million or so, and the ability to close quickly, he'll jump at it. His duty is to his blood relatives, not "The Community."

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @ATBOTL

    …a nice Lubavitcher couple…

    Lubavitchers are nice? Not in my experience. They are some of the biggest jerks you could ever meet.

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @ATBOTL

    Any Lubavitcher who doesn't pick me off the street, throw me in the Mitzvah Tank and make me lay tefillin against my will is nice in my book.

    , @SaneClownPosse
    @ATBOTL

    …a nice Lubavitcher couple…

    Perhaps, a dash of sarcasm was added.

  121. OT:

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @MEH 0910

    Oh, no! Another Stone has stopped rolling.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @MEH 0910

    The first Stone to die since 1969. Give them credit for longevity.

  122. OT: The government and ruling class combining forces to make HBCUs essentially free to attend. I am sure graduations rates will soar now. All HBCUs problems will be solved.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/24/hbcus-clear-student-balances-cancel-debt-with-federal-funds.html

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Barnard

    This is a potentially significant story, but, as is now customary with the MSM, it completely skips the interesting aspects:

    • Did they just reward spendthift students with thousands of dollars while telling thrifty students to pound sand?

    • Is this Federal money also available to other ethnicities? If not, why not?

    • If the HBCUs got free Federal money they could use for any purpose, why did they hand it over to their most fiscally improvident students?

    Replies: @rebel yell, @Barnard

  123. @MEH 0910
    OT:
    https://twitter.com/RollingStone/status/1430212025649610758

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Reg Cæsar

    Oh, no! Another Stone has stopped rolling.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Jonathan Mason


    Oh, no! Another Stone has stopped rolling.
     
    As well as the lady the guy on public radio called "the sixth or seventh Beatle":





    SHE’S LEAVING HOME: THE BEATLES’ HARPIST HAS DIED
  124. @Forbes
    @notsaying

    This gentrification has been going on in NYC for nearly three decades--since Giuliani turned the tide on crime. (Crown Heights is famous for a 1991 riot that started the downfall of Mayor Dinkins.)

    The writer Caribou is a transplant, so it's a novel experience for her--just like all the 20-something college grads the NYT hires (or freelances), i.e. the city is new and exciting to them, so they write a "story." Actual reporting of facts and details gets lost in the perspective of championing a cause with advocacy.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The writer Caribou is a transplant…

    Hey, lay off our coffee franchise.

    “Nairobi Jade” has written about the “weathering” and misogynoir [!] so-called “Black” women have to go through. She and her husband went through IVF treatment. It finally worked, but she went through depression. The solution? Treatment via Zoom with a therapist back home in Kenya.

    Perhaps had she stayed home with mom (who can’t leave because the consulates are restricted) rather than chasing the almighty buck in NYC, she wouldn’t have delayed and would have a passel of young Nairobians today.

    Jacquelynn Kerubo = Jury on black queen?

    (And what’s with Jacque- “lynn”? Jacqueline is the feminine of Jacques, French for Jacob and James. But plenty of white Americans make the same error, so I’ll leave her mom alone.)

    https://www.self.com/story/black-women-and-infertility

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Reg Cæsar

    Reg, forget the Jacquelynn. Yesterday the Buffalo police arrested a man for building 'ghost guns'. His name Lamborghini Lucas.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  125. @Jack Armstrong
    OFF TOPIC— Sorry NYC, Minneapolis “Metro” is still the leading iSteve-content generator IN THE WORLD!

    Mosque bomber now identifies as a woman,
    says right-wing blogs fueled 'inner conflict' leading up to attack
    Says confusion, right-wing posts fed "inner conflict."

    By Andy Mannix, StarTribune AUGUST 23, 2021 — 5:00PM

    The militia leader who's facing life in prison for master­minding the bombing of a Minnesota mosque now identifies as a woman, according to court documents.

    Emily Claire Hari — previously known as Michael Hari — is asking a judge to legally acknowledge her transgender identity. Hari, 50, says a combination of gender dysphoria and right-wing misinformation fueled her "inner conflict" during the time that she was convicted of bombing Dar Al-Farooq Islamic Center in Bloomington.

    "She strongly desired making a full transition but knew she would be ostracized from everyone and everything she knew," Hari's defense attorney, Shannon Elkins, wrote in court documents. "Thus, as she formed a ragtag group of freedom fighters or militia men and spoke of missions to Cuba and Venezuela, Ms. Hari secretly looked up 'sex change,' 'transgender surgery,' and 'post-op transgender' on the Internet. As she purchased military fatigues for their 'missions' she also purchased dresses and female clothing for a planned trip to Bangkok, Thailand, for male-to-female surgery. She was living a double life."

    Elkins cites these as factors in asking U.S. District Judge Donovan Frank to give Hari no more than a 30-year prison sentence — the mandatory minimum for Hari's conviction — and not the life term sought by prosecutors. She has also asked for an amended prison placement based on her transgender identity, but the details of the request are under seal. Elkins could not be reached for comment.

    In December, a jury found Hari, of Clarence, Ill., guilty on civil rights and hate crimes charges related to bombing the mosque. Throughout the 2 ½-week trial in St. Paul, prosecutors for Minnesota's U.S. Attorney's Office described Hari as a hater of Islam and immigrants who viewed both as threats to American culture. After the 2016 election of Donald Trump, Hari bid on a federal government contract to build the U.S.-Mexico border wall, which Hari viewed as a symbol of protecting American values. Hari later graduated to violent action, manipulating uneducated and financially vulnerable men from Hari's rural community to help "harass the untouchables."

    The list of targets included the Dar Al-Farooq Islamic Center in Bloomington, which Hari told acolytes served as a training and recruiting ground for ISIS.
     


    Still, Elkins said, at the time of the attack, Hari was influenced by misinformation and conspiracies published by right-wing blogs like Breitbart, World Net Daily and Jihad Watch, and amplified by unnamed elected officials, according to court documents. "This degrading, anti-Muslim, and Islamophobic rhetoric and misinformation has spread throughout the United States over the past several years through social media and the internet," Elkins wrote.

    Elkins also asks the judge to consider Hari's advanced age as reason for a 30-year sentence to be sufficient.

    "Emily Hari is more than a one-note caricature," said Elkins. "She is a complex human being who has been convicted by a jury of her peers. She will stand before this Court for sentencing, facing life in prison. She asks the Court to consider a sentence that is just and proportionate rather than vindictive or symbolic."

    Hari's sentencing is scheduled for Sept. 13.
     

    Replies: @ATBOTL, @Reg Cæsar, @Bill Jones

    …spoke of missions to Cuba and Venezuela…

    This person was a neocon/counter jihad/imperialist type, not someone connected to the alt-right or pro-white movement.

    We are seeing a growing trend of boomer mainstream conservative getting militant without embracing white nationalism and traditional “far right” ideology. There are now three “colorblind” civnat type militia groups operating nationally – the Oath-Keepers, 3%ers and Proud Boys. At the same time, real white nationalists are staying away from public confrontations and militant rhetoric.

    • Replies: @rebel yell
    @ATBOTL


    At the same time, real white nationalists are staying away from public confrontations and militant rhetoric.
     
    Real people of all stripes are staying away from public confrontations and militant rhetoric, as well they should. The people on the street spraying each other with bear spray are nuts.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

  126. @MEH 0910
    OT:
    https://twitter.com/RollingStone/status/1430212025649610758

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Reg Cæsar

    The first Stone to die since 1969. Give them credit for longevity.

  127. @AndrewR
    @ScarletNumber

    Not sure how she wants to achieve her racial communism but let's compromise. We can take all the money from trillionaires like Bezos (and I do mean all) and give it exclusively to black women.

    Also,


    Thomas Holley, a 74-year-old Black man, who has owned in Crown Heights for 58 yrs
     
    He must have been a very enterprising 16 year old to afford a house.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Gabe Ruth

    Throw in some tube tying for the unmarried and I’m sold.

  128. @William Badwhite
    @mmack

    From the MSN article:

    "For Culver....in Salt Lake City, where he worked as a barber and had scraped together enough cash to finance a 2016 Porsche SUV and buy a 1988 Chevy Caprice that he jacked up on 30-inch rims and drove with the windows down so he could hear screamed compliments from the sidewalk. To Culver, property was the “most ultimate thing you could own,” and the one big thing that had always seemed beyond his means"

    Mystery of the Wealth Gap solved.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    William. thank you. Good comment. Possessions are not the same as property but these people don’t understand that. A 2016 Porsche SUV that starts to depreciate the minute it leaves the lot is not an investment. Rims are not stocks or bonds but hey who yell compliments about your portfolio. And we are supposed to bring these people even.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @Buffalo Joe


    A 2016 Porsche SUV that starts to depreciate the minute it leaves the lot is not an investment...And we are supposed to bring these people even
     
    I know you know all this Joe, I'm lecturing Culver here not you!

    With one or two exceptions, a car you have to finance is a car you can't afford. If this guy (a barber!) places enough value on owning a Porsche SUV that he's willing to go into debt to get it, that's his business. But then a sentence or two later he says that owning property was "the most ultimate" but beyond his means. Maybe it wouldn't be beyond his means if he placed less value on Porsche SUV's and having strangers shout compliments at him about his rims.

    One key aspect of building wealth is "income not spent". I think more blacks (and young people in general) should be exposed to some sort of Intro to Finance type education - the importance of saving, the true cost of financing consumer goods, generally living within your means, etc. Helping people avoid financial mistakes which can impact them for years seems like a decent thing to do.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  129. @Reg Cæsar
    @Forbes


    The writer Caribou is a transplant...

     

    Hey, lay off our coffee franchise.

    "Nairobi Jade" has written about the "weathering" and misogynoir [!] so-called "Black" women have to go through. She and her husband went through IVF treatment. It finally worked, but she went through depression. The solution? Treatment via Zoom with a therapist back home in Kenya.

    Perhaps had she stayed home with mom (who can't leave because the consulates are restricted) rather than chasing the almighty buck in NYC, she wouldn't have delayed and would have a passel of young Nairobians today.


    Jacquelynn Kerubo = Jury on black queen?

    (And what's with Jacque- "lynn"? Jacqueline is the feminine of Jacques, French for Jacob and James. But plenty of white Americans make the same error, so I'll leave her mom alone.)


    https://www.self.com/story/black-women-and-infertility

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Reg, forget the Jacquelynn. Yesterday the Buffalo police arrested a man for building ‘ghost guns’. His name Lamborghini Lucas.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Buffalo Joe

    Buffalo Man Arrested, Charged With Manufacturing Ghost Guns

    Who Is Lamborghini Lucas?

    He's not the only intersection of Lamborghini and Lucas:


    https://lucasautocare.com/Lamborghini-repair-houston/

    Are you a fan of the Lamborghini Countach? --By Lucas

    "Lamborghini'-- Lucas Otero

    Did Lucas and Marcus Break my Lamborghini...?!


     

    OT (as if Lamborghinis weren't), what's going on on the distaff black right, what little there is of it?

    Kimberly Klacik – Candace Owens Lawsuit: Facts You Need



    https://factauto.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Did-you-have-a-Lamborghini-Countach-poster-on-your-wall.jpeg

  130. @Jack Armstrong
    OFF TOPIC— Sorry NYC, Minneapolis “Metro” is still the leading iSteve-content generator IN THE WORLD!

    Mosque bomber now identifies as a woman,
    says right-wing blogs fueled 'inner conflict' leading up to attack
    Says confusion, right-wing posts fed "inner conflict."

    By Andy Mannix, StarTribune AUGUST 23, 2021 — 5:00PM

    The militia leader who's facing life in prison for master­minding the bombing of a Minnesota mosque now identifies as a woman, according to court documents.

    Emily Claire Hari — previously known as Michael Hari — is asking a judge to legally acknowledge her transgender identity. Hari, 50, says a combination of gender dysphoria and right-wing misinformation fueled her "inner conflict" during the time that she was convicted of bombing Dar Al-Farooq Islamic Center in Bloomington.

    "She strongly desired making a full transition but knew she would be ostracized from everyone and everything she knew," Hari's defense attorney, Shannon Elkins, wrote in court documents. "Thus, as she formed a ragtag group of freedom fighters or militia men and spoke of missions to Cuba and Venezuela, Ms. Hari secretly looked up 'sex change,' 'transgender surgery,' and 'post-op transgender' on the Internet. As she purchased military fatigues for their 'missions' she also purchased dresses and female clothing for a planned trip to Bangkok, Thailand, for male-to-female surgery. She was living a double life."

    Elkins cites these as factors in asking U.S. District Judge Donovan Frank to give Hari no more than a 30-year prison sentence — the mandatory minimum for Hari's conviction — and not the life term sought by prosecutors. She has also asked for an amended prison placement based on her transgender identity, but the details of the request are under seal. Elkins could not be reached for comment.

    In December, a jury found Hari, of Clarence, Ill., guilty on civil rights and hate crimes charges related to bombing the mosque. Throughout the 2 ½-week trial in St. Paul, prosecutors for Minnesota's U.S. Attorney's Office described Hari as a hater of Islam and immigrants who viewed both as threats to American culture. After the 2016 election of Donald Trump, Hari bid on a federal government contract to build the U.S.-Mexico border wall, which Hari viewed as a symbol of protecting American values. Hari later graduated to violent action, manipulating uneducated and financially vulnerable men from Hari's rural community to help "harass the untouchables."

    The list of targets included the Dar Al-Farooq Islamic Center in Bloomington, which Hari told acolytes served as a training and recruiting ground for ISIS.
     


    Still, Elkins said, at the time of the attack, Hari was influenced by misinformation and conspiracies published by right-wing blogs like Breitbart, World Net Daily and Jihad Watch, and amplified by unnamed elected officials, according to court documents. "This degrading, anti-Muslim, and Islamophobic rhetoric and misinformation has spread throughout the United States over the past several years through social media and the internet," Elkins wrote.

    Elkins also asks the judge to consider Hari's advanced age as reason for a 30-year sentence to be sufficient.

    "Emily Hari is more than a one-note caricature," said Elkins. "She is a complex human being who has been convicted by a jury of her peers. She will stand before this Court for sentencing, facing life in prison. She asks the Court to consider a sentence that is just and proportionate rather than vindictive or symbolic."

    Hari's sentencing is scheduled for Sept. 13.
     

    Replies: @ATBOTL, @Reg Cæsar, @Bill Jones

    The militia leader who’s facing life in prison for master­minding the bombing of a Minnesota mosque now identifies as a woman, according to court documents.

    You’d think an insanity defense would have been a slam dunk. But not in the present environment.

    Yeah, a real girly girl, this hairy Hari:

    Another typical American terrorist

    In an Amish hat!

  131. You were saying something about patterns, Steve?

    Jacinda Ardren north. Coming soon to an Oval Office near you.

  132. Nice. The author isn’t known for humorous articles so it worked perfectly.

  133. OK this is way off topic, but how do you change an email address? I tried writing a comment like “Hello world!” with a changed address but I just get flagged for “user name” or “handle” doesn’t match email. And I checked the box Update My Information. Please pardon any cranial density on my part.

  134. Anonymous[374] • Disclaimer says:

    Meanwhile, Riker’s Island folk are now free to settle
    old scores amongst themselves with no criticism from
    the guards, because too many of the guards left.

    As a typical prisoner of Riker’s, I not only have to
    worry about having my throat cut by my enemies
    with impunity, but I’m also stuck answering their
    goddamned phones?

    And you thought YOUR job sucked!

    Where’s the blm “leaders?” No national outrage I can detect.

    Their silence implies an almost “let the primitive savages kill each other”
    attitude they used to complain to White people about.

    And what about the gang rapes of women who identify as men?
    I can almost hear the “don’t matter. I’s gonna f* ck you anyways” from here.

    I don’t detect any squawking from the LBGT community. It’s almost
    as if, when they can’t figure out, or don’t want to monetize a horrible situation,
    then the horrible situation doesn’t exist.

    And that would make them evil, wouldn’t it? People who propose to
    do good, then enable evil, makes them evil… doesn’t it?

    https://nypost.com/2021/08/23/inmates-run-wild-on-rikers-island-amid-staffing-crisis/

  135. @Steve Sailer
    @Gary in Gramercy

    It's a 12 room duplex brownstone on a gorgeous street.

    Replies: @Bannon, @Daniel H

    The Brooklyn Brownstone is a con, a merciless money pit. Must be avoided. Yes, the facades are absolutely beautiful, but behind is a creaky, honeycomb of decaying stick frame and dessicating heavy plaster, with turn of the century (19th/20th century) electrical and plumbing infrastructure. The simplest of contractor tasks are an ordeal. And your neighbors’ problems are YOUR problems. No thanks, you can have it.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Daniel H

    Thanks.

    , @cityview
    @Daniel H

    Oh, yes, I agree. And not just Brooklyn brownstones, but many other older properties that are humbler. And on top of that, some of these, like Mr. Holley's house and others I have read about, are two-family; so if the buyer does not convert to a single-family, he or she is stuck with renting out half the house. I would gladly take the money, but I wouldn't want to own one of these houses ever.

  136. “Mr. Holley estimates that the 12-room, two-family house he inherited from his mother”

    These people are everywhere. And I’m not one of them

  137. @Buffalo Joe
    @Reg Cæsar

    Reg, forget the Jacquelynn. Yesterday the Buffalo police arrested a man for building 'ghost guns'. His name Lamborghini Lucas.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  138. Anonymous[125] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    @Anonymous

    Who cares?

    Unless you are black, or Woke bai-zuo, the NFL is not for you. In fact, it hates you.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I feel ya dude. The steroids bother me also. It’s rife. Like WWE almost. (Although I don’t think the winners are scripted.) I go through periods of tuning it out and just working out and doing my own health. Dropped a lot of weight and gained 10# muscle. Makes a huge difference. But then I backslide. I mean…it is the male version of a soap opera. A guilty pleasure. And it really is a fascinating game. Patton called it the closest approximation to military battle.

  139. @Paleo Liberal
    @Abolish_public_education

    The first gentrifiers are generally gay men and artistic types looking for someplace cheaper. They don't care about the schools very much.

    This is true both for inner city gentrification and for rural artist colonies.

    In city locations, the next group are usually young single straight men who are large and strong enough not to be much of a target. Later young single women, gay or straight, will arrive.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anonymous

    Saw this go down in parts of Richmond. Although we sort of skipped the gays in Church Hill. And used lesbians along with straight men in Oregon Hill.

  140. I mean, it could work for certain parts of Crown Heights. But the guy would have a hell of a lot more children, and his son in New Jersey would be more than a little ‘interested’ in the brownstone.

    Btw, I wonder what that son in New Jersey is interested in. Crack? Making his cell nicey nice?

  141. @Buffalo Joe
    @William Badwhite

    William. thank you. Good comment. Possessions are not the same as property but these people don't understand that. A 2016 Porsche SUV that starts to depreciate the minute it leaves the lot is not an investment. Rims are not stocks or bonds but hey who yell compliments about your portfolio. And we are supposed to bring these people even.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    A 2016 Porsche SUV that starts to depreciate the minute it leaves the lot is not an investment…And we are supposed to bring these people even

    I know you know all this Joe, I’m lecturing Culver here not you!

    With one or two exceptions, a car you have to finance is a car you can’t afford. If this guy (a barber!) places enough value on owning a Porsche SUV that he’s willing to go into debt to get it, that’s his business. But then a sentence or two later he says that owning property was “the most ultimate” but beyond his means. Maybe it wouldn’t be beyond his means if he placed less value on Porsche SUV’s and having strangers shout compliments at him about his rims.

    One key aspect of building wealth is “income not spent”. I think more blacks (and young people in general) should be exposed to some sort of Intro to Finance type education – the importance of saving, the true cost of financing consumer goods, generally living within your means, etc. Helping people avoid financial mistakes which can impact them for years seems like a decent thing to do.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @William Badwhite

    William, public education in America is worthy of a RICO investigation. Can't teach finance to kids who can't learn basic math and yet...they graduate HS. So sad. Stay safe my friend.

  142. @Jonathan Mason
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Hi


    * There are plenty of people here legally who resent those who’ve gotten around the bureaucratic system. You may even be one of them, right?
     
    I think the United States and other nations should take effective steps to prevent illegal immigration. The US is by no means the only country that has illegal immigrants.

    Many people want to live in different countries from the ones that they were born in. For example a huge number of US citizens who have served in its military now want to live on their disability pensions in Southeast Asia or South America and require residency visas to do so.

    Many people from low-wage countries want to live in the United States, which has high wages, at least for a few years, so that they can save money to build a home or start a business.

    The US has a shortage of labor, so many businesses are willing to hire foreigners at the lower end of the wage scale, even if they don't have papers. This is, however, rarely the case with doctors and engineers, which the US also needs.

    Just today there is a widely published story about McDonald's fast food chain having no milkshakes on the menu at this time in the UK. Apparently the reason is a shortage of qualified truck drivers! I imagine that immigrants from countries that drive on the left side of the road would be most welcome!

    (Here in Ecuador I can go to the market and find a dozen places selling milkshakes all made to order using fresh fruit so the question of HGV drivers does not arise as fruits are transported by pickup trucks.)

    All nations should have fair and equitable and consistent ways of admitting or expelling foreigners according to their needs.

    Although it is unlikely to ever happen, a global ID card with a unique ID number would be extremely useful to reduce bureaucracy and increase freedom of movement.

    People in France have an ID card for their medical Care, and a doctor just has to swipe their card to bring up their entire medical record. A (voluntary) world citizen card with a fingerprint for people who want international mobility would probably make life easier for a lot of people.

    I think such things will eventually come. It is easy to forget that personal computers, cell phones, the internet and so on I've only been invented since I was already an adult. Many changes will occur over the next 50 years. When my grandparents were born there were no cars or planes, but look at us now!

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Achmed E. Newman, @Stan Adams

    Again, I can’t tell if you are being purposefully obtuse or just are innumerate this time. Do you know the difference in MAGNITUDE of the immigration to the US, Canada, Australia, Sweden, France, and Germany compared to immigration to a place like Ecuador? I mean the magnitude of the proportion of the population that comes in each year.

    Legal immigration in large numbers isn’t any better than illegal immigration in large numbers. You tell me one country outside the developed Western world that takes in (well, is FORCED to take in) 1/2 to 1% of their population in foreigners each year.

    Many people want to live in different countries from the ones that they were born in.

    So what? They are a drop in the bucket. Tell me how much of Thailand’s, Costa Rica’s, Belize’s (favorites of American ex-pats) , or Ecuador’s populations are made of these ex-pats. What percentage of each country is foreign from anywhere? Do you understand that 15% of the people living here right now were born elsewhere?

    Drops in the bucket of ex-pats and/or well under 1% assimilating foreigners in a DECADE is not the same as the invasion that the Western nations are undergoing.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Ecuador has a population of approximately 16 million and receives about 400,000 immigrants and refugees per year, mostly from Colombia and Peru, but a lot right now from Haiti and Venezuela.

    That would amount to about 2.5% per year. in 2018 the US received about a million immigrants, which is about 1/3% of the total population of over 300 million.

    Other countries that receive a lot of immigrants would include the UK, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Germany, Spain, Chile, Japan, South Korea, Turkey, and Canada.

    Of course you have to consider the size of the existing population and the size of the landmass to compare countries, and while I will grant you that the US receives more immigrants in raw numbers (except possibly for Germany), the impact of digesting the immigrants may be just as great in other countries.

    In 2018 Germany received substantially more immigrants into a much smaller country, and Spain received about half as many as the US. The population of the US is more than 6 times the population of Spain, and the land area more than 10 times.

    Anyway, the main point is that several other countries are affected by immigration just as much, if not more, than the US, and that there are US citizens living all over the world.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Daniel H

    , @anon
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Again, I can’t tell if you are being purposefully obtuse

    Dude. He's just better at trolling than you are. Think about that for a moment. Then think some more.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  143. @Jonathan Mason
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Hi


    * There are plenty of people here legally who resent those who’ve gotten around the bureaucratic system. You may even be one of them, right?
     
    I think the United States and other nations should take effective steps to prevent illegal immigration. The US is by no means the only country that has illegal immigrants.

    Many people want to live in different countries from the ones that they were born in. For example a huge number of US citizens who have served in its military now want to live on their disability pensions in Southeast Asia or South America and require residency visas to do so.

    Many people from low-wage countries want to live in the United States, which has high wages, at least for a few years, so that they can save money to build a home or start a business.

    The US has a shortage of labor, so many businesses are willing to hire foreigners at the lower end of the wage scale, even if they don't have papers. This is, however, rarely the case with doctors and engineers, which the US also needs.

    Just today there is a widely published story about McDonald's fast food chain having no milkshakes on the menu at this time in the UK. Apparently the reason is a shortage of qualified truck drivers! I imagine that immigrants from countries that drive on the left side of the road would be most welcome!

    (Here in Ecuador I can go to the market and find a dozen places selling milkshakes all made to order using fresh fruit so the question of HGV drivers does not arise as fruits are transported by pickup trucks.)

    All nations should have fair and equitable and consistent ways of admitting or expelling foreigners according to their needs.

    Although it is unlikely to ever happen, a global ID card with a unique ID number would be extremely useful to reduce bureaucracy and increase freedom of movement.

    People in France have an ID card for their medical Care, and a doctor just has to swipe their card to bring up their entire medical record. A (voluntary) world citizen card with a fingerprint for people who want international mobility would probably make life easier for a lot of people.

    I think such things will eventually come. It is easy to forget that personal computers, cell phones, the internet and so on I've only been invented since I was already an adult. Many changes will occur over the next 50 years. When my grandparents were born there were no cars or planes, but look at us now!

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Achmed E. Newman, @Stan Adams

    Regarding the Orwellian electronics, sure, the IBM 386 was an amazing thing that would not have been imagined by your average guy 20 years earlier. So what, the IBM 386 wasn’t powerful enough to record one’s whole life and upload it to other computers. Look at us now, Big Brother! What CAN be abused, WILL be abused.

    It’s unAmerican to support random traffic stops or a national ID of any kind*. It’s even unner-American to support a world ID or world government. Since you’re kind of unAmerican on all that and MORE, tell me if you are planning on staying in Ecuador. I had assumed you hadn’t decided whether to mover down there or not yet.

    Finally, regarding immigration and this “labor shortage”, perhaps business can offer higher wages. That would have avoided so much grief. I’ve been reading VDare for almost 20 decades. There’s nothing you could possibly teach me about the politics of immigration, Jonathan.

    .

    * Good American Libertarian questioned FDR and that crowd when they were implementing SS, back in the day. They were told “no, of course it’s not going to turn into a national ID number.”

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Not quite that long - almost 2 decades.

  144. Sorry for the OT, but the headline is irresistable:

    As a trans masculine person, my period doesn’t trigger feelings of anxiety – until I have to buy menstrual products labeled ‘for women’

    Also, I once shared an elevator with this man and his elderly relatives– seemed like a sweet kid:

    Igor Vovkovinskiy, tallest man in US, dies in Minnesota

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Reg Cæsar

    You know many things I don’t Reg. Specially your maps and geography knowledge. Soooo can you explain to me how even with some kind of Dr Frankenstein artificial womb does blood collect there 3 weeks a month to make a bed for a fertile egg? And how does it get out? .

    In other news boys who think they are girls are demanding icky gross urinals be removed from all the uni sex school bathrooms. I doubt it’s the boys who think they are boys making these demands It’s probably the gender counselors the schools are hiring at 80K to start 110K after 5 years who are making the complaints.

  145. NSFW.

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  146. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jonathan Mason

    Regarding the Orwellian electronics, sure, the IBM 386 was an amazing thing that would not have been imagined by your average guy 20 years earlier. So what, the IBM 386 wasn't powerful enough to record one's whole life and upload it to other computers. Look at us now, Big Brother! What CAN be abused, WILL be abused.

    It's unAmerican to support random traffic stops or a national ID of any kind*. It's even unner-American to support a world ID or world government. Since you're kind of unAmerican on all that and MORE, tell me if you are planning on staying in Ecuador. I had assumed you hadn't decided whether to mover down there or not yet.

    Finally, regarding immigration and this "labor shortage", perhaps business can offer higher wages. That would have avoided so much grief. I've been reading VDare for almost 20 decades. There's nothing you could possibly teach me about the politics of immigration, Jonathan.


    .


    * Good American Libertarian questioned FDR and that crowd when they were implementing SS, back in the day. They were told "no, of course it's not going to turn into a national ID number."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Not quite that long – almost 2 decades.

  147. @Anon
    OT

    He took his wife and kids to Afghanistan one last time. Now he can’t get them out.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/08/24/philadelphia-family-afghanistan-a

    Afghan guy works for the U.S. for five years, which apparently got visas for him, his wife, and their five kids to immigrate to the U.S. in 2019. Now his wife and kids are stuck in Afghanistan and cannot get out. The Washington Post wants us to feel sorry for him.

    How did getting a relatively cushy job for an Afghan for five years obligate the U.S. to feel like it owed him and six others American citizenship, ultimately? Why are we giving it away so cheaply. The job was something he should have felt grateful about not the U.S.

    His wife and kids are staying with his brother back in Afghanistan. Why do I think the brother also is going to end up in the U.S., along with who knows how many other relatives?

    Replies: @Matttt

    I have a general rule of thumb: the country you “go back” to is your home. If you “go back” to Afghanistan to visit family and friends, you’re Afghan. If you “go back” to Nigeria to visit family and friends, you’re Nigerian. If you “go back” to the US, you’re American.

    Instead of trying to get his foreign family to come to *our* home, Mohammad should say goodbye to all the other non-Americans at the refugee agency where he works, pack his bags, and go back to his home.

  148. Steve, what do you think about The Death of Citizenism? Will you defend your idea?

    https://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=24858

    A middle ground was staked out twenty years ago by Steve Sailer. He came up with an idea he called “citizenism” . . .

    In the end, Steve Sailer’s approach was rooted in a misunderstanding of what lies behind things like open borders. It was not a desire for mundane things like a desire to save the world or a demand for cheap labor. At the heart of the neoliberal project is the assertion that humans are infinitely adaptable to their culture. This is the unequivocal denial of biological reality. This is why citizenism was doomed from the start. It offered a compromise that could never be tolerated, much less accepted.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @Federalist

    This topic is an important one and needs adequate exposition. I could write a much better version of this essay than the Newsweek-level treatment provided by the Z Man.

    Replies: @Federalist

  149. Steve, you’ve got to see the lawyer newspaper Daily Journal for August 19. The featured article is about a black judge, who’s pictured with a big, toothy grin over a headline that reads, “Taking Extra Time.”

  150. @James N. Kennett
    OT. The British authorities were horrified to discover that a man who was on a rescue flight that had taken off from Kabul was on their "no-fly" list. How could they possibly deal with such an embarrassing and potentially dangerous situation? Simple! Remove him from the no-fly list, and release him in Birmingham.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9920025/Man-UKs-no-fly-watchlist-airlifted-Kabul-Birmingham-apparent-security-breach.html

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Peter D. Bredon

    Surprising easy, barely an inconvenience.

  151. @Kana
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve:

    Your article is entirely factual and based in history if you changed it to my parents selling their Fred Trump-built East Flatbush home in 1978 after the Summer of Sam and Blackout of 1977. Leaving while taking a financial loss, with their tails between their legs after several murders in the neighborhood. Real Estate Agents sending out flyers to white basically saying “you don’t want to be the last ones on your block, do you?”

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

    “Real Estate Agents sending out flyers to white basically saying “you don’t want to be the last ones on your block, do you?”

    Archie Bunker called the “black-busters”

  152. @guest007
    @Almost Missouri

    Odd to see anyone in 2021 arguing that Loving V Virginia was not decided correctly. Does anyone believe such positions are the way to win a majority in the U.S. along with legalizing housing discrimination and segregated schools.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    I’m not trying to “win a majority”, just to tell the truth. I would have decided Loving v. Virginia the same way, but the truth is, miscegenation hurts black women who want a black mate, and they won’t be shy about telling you if you are a successful black man who has outmarried.

    More truth that may not win a majority:

    Historically, most conquering armies raped and enslaved or killed women in conquered lands. The Taliban may the first conquering army who, rather than tearing the clothes off captive women, ordered them to wear more clothing, and rather than abducting them into slavery, sent them home to tend their families. This is an unprecedented level of respect for women.

    The Taliban outlawed bacha bazi child rape and freed bacha bazi sex slaves. The US-led occupiers officially tolerated bacha bazi child rape and enabled child sex slavery.

  153. @Barnard
    OT: The government and ruling class combining forces to make HBCUs essentially free to attend. I am sure graduations rates will soar now. All HBCUs problems will be solved.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/24/hbcus-clear-student-balances-cancel-debt-with-federal-funds.html

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    This is a potentially significant story, but, as is now customary with the MSM, it completely skips the interesting aspects:

    • Did they just reward spendthift students with thousands of dollars while telling thrifty students to pound sand?

    • Is this Federal money also available to other ethnicities? If not, why not?

    • If the HBCUs got free Federal money they could use for any purpose, why did they hand it over to their most fiscally improvident students?

    • Replies: @rebel yell
    @Almost Missouri

    Additional questions:
    Did the students with canceled debts get worthless degrees that could only lead to HR diversity officer jobs?
    Is this another level of subsidy for these diversity officers? Subsidized with a make work job, and additionally subsidized with cancellation of student debt?

    , @Barnard
    @Almost Missouri

    1. I don't believe HBCUs have a significant number of thrifty students, but yes.

    2. Of course not. It is blatant discrimination in favor of black students at HBCUs.

    3. The HBCUs are trying to stay open. Attendance and enrollment rates are dropping. Since they get the bottom tier of black college applicants, the only real way they can keep unqualified students enrolled is through a gimmick like this.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  154. @Jonathan Mason
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Hi


    * There are plenty of people here legally who resent those who’ve gotten around the bureaucratic system. You may even be one of them, right?
     
    I think the United States and other nations should take effective steps to prevent illegal immigration. The US is by no means the only country that has illegal immigrants.

    Many people want to live in different countries from the ones that they were born in. For example a huge number of US citizens who have served in its military now want to live on their disability pensions in Southeast Asia or South America and require residency visas to do so.

    Many people from low-wage countries want to live in the United States, which has high wages, at least for a few years, so that they can save money to build a home or start a business.

    The US has a shortage of labor, so many businesses are willing to hire foreigners at the lower end of the wage scale, even if they don't have papers. This is, however, rarely the case with doctors and engineers, which the US also needs.

    Just today there is a widely published story about McDonald's fast food chain having no milkshakes on the menu at this time in the UK. Apparently the reason is a shortage of qualified truck drivers! I imagine that immigrants from countries that drive on the left side of the road would be most welcome!

    (Here in Ecuador I can go to the market and find a dozen places selling milkshakes all made to order using fresh fruit so the question of HGV drivers does not arise as fruits are transported by pickup trucks.)

    All nations should have fair and equitable and consistent ways of admitting or expelling foreigners according to their needs.

    Although it is unlikely to ever happen, a global ID card with a unique ID number would be extremely useful to reduce bureaucracy and increase freedom of movement.

    People in France have an ID card for their medical Care, and a doctor just has to swipe their card to bring up their entire medical record. A (voluntary) world citizen card with a fingerprint for people who want international mobility would probably make life easier for a lot of people.

    I think such things will eventually come. It is easy to forget that personal computers, cell phones, the internet and so on I've only been invented since I was already an adult. Many changes will occur over the next 50 years. When my grandparents were born there were no cars or planes, but look at us now!

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Achmed E. Newman, @Stan Adams

    Many people want to live in different countries from the ones that they were born in.

    You are one of them, obviously. You are English, and yet you choose not to live in England.

    How is it that a Brit currently residing in Ecuador has come to regard himself as the world’s leading authority on America?

    Vox Day (an American ex-pat living in Italy) has popularized the term midwit to describe a particularly annoying personality type – someone with slightly higher-than-average intelligence who mistakenly believes he’s a genius. This person walks around thinking that he has all the answers to everything. He’s extremely generous with unsolicited advice.

    The midwit is a generally happy fellow, sustained by his cheerful contempt for his intellectual lessers. His greatest weakness is that when he is confronted with evidence that maybe, just maybe, he doesn’t know everything there is to know about everything, or maybe, just maybe, there are other people in the world who are just as smart as him or – no, it’s inconceivable – how could anyone be even smarter than ME?!? … he shuts down. He can’t process the humiliation. It’s too much for him. So he withdraws into his little fantasy bubble, closes his eyes, sticks his fingers in his ears, and chants, “I can’t hear you! I can’t see you! I still know better than you!” Then he goes back to posting his walls of text.

    I find that this concept explains the posting habits of certain iSteve commenters. Perhaps others do as well.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @Stan Adams


    Vox Day (an American ex-pat living in Italy) has popularized the term midwit to describe a particularly annoying personality type
     
    I call this phenomena the Dunning-Kruger effect of the second order---or DK2, if you will---which as far as I know is of my own coinage. These people are the epitome of the Dunning-Kruger effect, i.e. they have as little awareness of true intellectual excellence as ordinary DKs have of mental averageness.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Stan Adams


    How is it that a Brit currently residing in Ecuador has come to regard himself as the world’s leading authority on America?
     
    Actually I am a US citizen of many years standing and was a government employee in the US for many years, and a homeowner in the US, and had children in US schools, worked in health care systems in the US, and in prisons in the US, so I do know a bit about that country and how it goes about its business, but having lived in a number of other countries on both sides of the pond, and on three different continents, I am also in a good position to compare what it is like to live in the US with living in other countries that share this planet of ours with the US.

    In my view the biggest problem with politicians in the US is that they are very blinkered and do not nearly pay enough attention to how other countries deal with similar problems in a world where everywhere is becoming more the same.

    And the food is lousy!

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Stan Adams

  155. @Trinity
    Another fleeing Yankee going to Florida. Great. Florida was GREAT in the late 1970s and early 1980s unless you happened to be in Miami when Carter dumped Cuban "refugees" aka jailbirds in the Miami-Fort Lauderdale area. St Pete-Clearwater-Tampa-Lakeland-Orlando area aka the I-4 corridor in the 1970s and early 1980s was BEAUTIFUL. Sure, it had its spots just like any area with any large population but it was a great place to live. This area in 2021 barely resembles the Bay Area of 20 years ago, much less the Golden Age of 40 years ago. Would I rather be in Florida than Brooklyn? Hell, at this point the only place I would take Brooklyn over are places like Detroit, Baltimore, Chicago or San FranSHITco. Yankee old timer would be much better off in the mountains of Tennessee, Georgia, or North Carolina. Hell, he might even find a fellow Yankee in these places now. Nashville is one the latest go to places for Yankees fleeing the North and Nashville is way Whiter than Orlando and probably much safer as well.

    Replies: @Tony massey, @Desiderius, @E. Rekshun

    I live in a retirement community of approx 104 persons and easily more than half are transplants.
    Just on my floor of 16 persons

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    one is from nova Scotia(moved to ny when he was 17 back in the early 70s) one from San diego that moved here less than 10 years ago, another from Japan, he worked for the 🇺🇸 navy for like 40 years living all that time in California he visited someone here 5-6 years ago loved it and now he’s a Tennessean, one from Illinois(he’s my favorite person; he shares many many stories with me of how racist White Southerners are and his anecdotes are outrageous lies of the tissue thin variety…i don’t think he even realizes just how much he’s hated by the not very many actually real Southerners. One guy is from upstate NY. He constantly educates me on the great state of Tennessee as he has been in the state for nearly 8 years now. Also, he tells me stories about signs that he’s seen in this fabulous state that say “don’t let the sun set on your black ass” been hearing those stories from outsiders for as long as i can remember. I’ve got him completely hemmed in tho. After hours of relentless questioning i have at least one sign narrowed down to somewhere in the middle of the woods near crossville Tennessee. He swears he’s seen the sign. 👌 that’s a White supremacy symbol by the way. One more for effect…👌. Hmmm…a woman from of all places Vermont. Maybe the only person i have ever met from Vermont. She is actually a race realist. A nice lady but she knows all about it. Heard her say as much plenty of times. Lots more. She’s about as White as a White person can get. She is very much for whiteness. Very Pro white is she. Funny but i kinda doubt having grown up in VT and doing pretty good for herself in life i find it hard to believe she’s ever been around a darkie. She worked in HR forever tho and swears she worked with many darkies. She worked for some snowboard company in VT she says they made a big effort to hire darkies and apparently she didn’t think much of their abilities. The very worst of the worst I haven’t mentioned.
    Actually i will mention the worst imo. He’s from Massachusetts. He’s Also an extremely proud ivy leaguer. Gawd what an insufferable fucking ahole. His daughter(also an ivy leaguer if i heard Greg correctly at least once of the over 1000x he has reminded me she matriculated with our betters, ol Greg sure does love the fuck out of some Jews. He doesn’t ever talk to me, in fact, makes a point to ignore me because i throw as much shit his way about ziohomos as i can. He calls himself a Zionist. I’ve thrown plenty of bombs his way. Why he cares about fucking Jews i can’t get him to say. I’ve asked, whyyyyyy? i have no clue. Why does he care? Does going to school with ziohomos turn you stupid?
    Most I’m familiar with that are transplants are perfectly fine. I’ve Heard at least a few say they are grateful to live where they do and they should be.
    I Guess they can all go back to where they came from.
    More than half easily. When you look at who’s actually from the local area it’s almost no one. 1 guy on my floor is from a town about 25miles away and one other who grew up on the NC side of the border, which is about an hour from here, are the only locals from my floor. Nearly all are from elsewhere.
    You’re more likely to meet someone from Michigan or California in Nashville than you are to meet someone from Tennessee. Middle Tennessee is occupied territory.

  156. Complaining about Gentrification is an an exercise in hypocrisy. Black violence and social pathology forces, it just drives out other races as blacks become predominate in a neighborhood.

    Nothing is said about race based ethnic cleansing when blacks move in but when enterprising Whites move into a dysfunctional area because of the low housing costs and raise the quality of life for everyone the black property owners complain about a rise in property values/taxes from the prior crash in real estate values that they or their family caused.

    Ironic that blacks moving in cost Whites money and Whites moving in make money for blacks.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @mc23

    Also endless complaints about asian Hispanic and other immigrants moving into black neighborhoods. That’s what we get in California

  157. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jonathan Mason

    Again, I can't tell if you are being purposefully obtuse or just are innumerate this time. Do you know the difference in MAGNITUDE of the immigration to the US, Canada, Australia, Sweden, France, and Germany compared to immigration to a place like Ecuador? I mean the magnitude of the proportion of the population that comes in each year.

    Legal immigration in large numbers isn't any better than illegal immigration in large numbers. You tell me one country outside the developed Western world that takes in (well, is FORCED to take in) 1/2 to 1% of their population in foreigners each year.


    Many people want to live in different countries from the ones that they were born in.
     
    So what? They are a drop in the bucket. Tell me how much of Thailand's, Costa Rica's, Belize's (favorites of American ex-pats) , or Ecuador's populations are made of these ex-pats. What percentage of each country is foreign from anywhere? Do you understand that 15% of the people living here right now were born elsewhere?

    Drops in the bucket of ex-pats and/or well under 1% assimilating foreigners in a DECADE is not the same as the invasion that the Western nations are undergoing.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @anon

    Ecuador has a population of approximately 16 million and receives about 400,000 immigrants and refugees per year, mostly from Colombia and Peru, but a lot right now from Haiti and Venezuela.

    That would amount to about 2.5% per year. in 2018 the US received about a million immigrants, which is about 1/3% of the total population of over 300 million.

    Other countries that receive a lot of immigrants would include the UK, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Germany, Spain, Chile, Japan, South Korea, Turkey, and Canada.

    Of course you have to consider the size of the existing population and the size of the landmass to compare countries, and while I will grant you that the US receives more immigrants in raw numbers (except possibly for Germany), the impact of digesting the immigrants may be just as great in other countries.

    In 2018 Germany received substantially more immigrants into a much smaller country, and Spain received about half as many as the US. The population of the US is more than 6 times the population of Spain, and the land area more than 10 times.

    Anyway, the main point is that several other countries are affected by immigration just as much, if not more, than the US, and that there are US citizens living all over the world.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jonathan Mason

    One million per year LEGALLY into the US is not one million immigrants. It is probably well over 2 million, and then in '21, the sky's the limit. Ecuador is getting more South Americans. OMG! That'd be like North Carolina getting more Virginians and S. Carolinians. (It's terrible when they get New Yorkers - that'd be like Ecuador getting Guyanans - yeah, I know, still officially S. Americans, but ...)

    BTW, who in his right mind wants to move to Saudi Arabia?

    I remember a long time ago a friend telling me a story about some survey that was done via phone calls to embassies or what-have-you around the world asking about the difficulty of immigration to each place. Upon questioning someone from one of the darkest shitholes, he got the reply "I don't know. Nobody ever asks us about this."

    Replies: @bigdicknick

    , @Daniel H
    @Jonathan Mason


    Ecuador has a population of approximately 16 million and receives about 400,000 immigrants and refugees per year, mostly from Colombia and Peru, but a lot right now from Haiti and Venezuela.

    That would amount to about 2.5% per year. in 2018 the US received about a million immigrants, which is about 1/3% of the total population of over 300 million.
     
    C'mon the immigrants coming into the USA are not of the same kind as that coming into Ecuador. The vast majority of immigrants coming into the USA are non-white, non Christian and non-European, cultural elements that are central to the American identity. Peruvians, Venezuelans and Colombians (Andean highlanders) are the same people, the same kind as Ecuadorans.
  158. RIP Charlie Watts!

    Three days after Don Everly…..

  159. @Ralph L
    @Jonathan Mason

    several states are still tweaking their voting laws, that is an admission that they still haven’t got it right in the quest for free and fair elections.

    You assumed that's the goal? Haha.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    You assumed that’s the goal? Haha.

    I am being extremely charitable in assuming that the legislators who have enacted these laws believe this to be the case, though I am not sure that I would necessarily agree.

    Anyway changing the laws regarding voting is an admission that the previous laws were inadequate, even after 200 years of constant refinement.

  160. @Jonathan Mason
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Ecuador has a population of approximately 16 million and receives about 400,000 immigrants and refugees per year, mostly from Colombia and Peru, but a lot right now from Haiti and Venezuela.

    That would amount to about 2.5% per year. in 2018 the US received about a million immigrants, which is about 1/3% of the total population of over 300 million.

    Other countries that receive a lot of immigrants would include the UK, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Germany, Spain, Chile, Japan, South Korea, Turkey, and Canada.

    Of course you have to consider the size of the existing population and the size of the landmass to compare countries, and while I will grant you that the US receives more immigrants in raw numbers (except possibly for Germany), the impact of digesting the immigrants may be just as great in other countries.

    In 2018 Germany received substantially more immigrants into a much smaller country, and Spain received about half as many as the US. The population of the US is more than 6 times the population of Spain, and the land area more than 10 times.

    Anyway, the main point is that several other countries are affected by immigration just as much, if not more, than the US, and that there are US citizens living all over the world.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Daniel H

    One million per year LEGALLY into the US is not one million immigrants. It is probably well over 2 million, and then in ’21, the sky’s the limit. Ecuador is getting more South Americans. OMG! That’d be like North Carolina getting more Virginians and S. Carolinians. (It’s terrible when they get New Yorkers – that’d be like Ecuador getting Guyanans – yeah, I know, still officially S. Americans, but …)

    BTW, who in his right mind wants to move to Saudi Arabia?

    I remember a long time ago a friend telling me a story about some survey that was done via phone calls to embassies or what-have-you around the world asking about the difficulty of immigration to each place. Upon questioning someone from one of the darkest shitholes, he got the reply “I don’t know. Nobody ever asks us about this.”

    • Replies: @bigdicknick
    @Achmed E. Newman

    In Alien Nation, Peter Brimelow has a part where he calls the embassies of a bunch of successful asian countries asking how he can immigrate there i.e. south korea, japan etc. They inform him they don't have a process for him to become a japanese, south korean etc. citizen in place.

    Replies: @epebble

  161. @epebble
    @Jonathan Mason

    I think you may not be aware of complexity of U.S. elections. Where I live, I may be in 5 separate districts for different offices. U.S. Representative, State Representative, State Senator, County Supervisor, City Councilor (if I am in a City, I am not - I am in an Unincorporated area). Then you have School district, Water district, Fire district, Sewer district etc.,. In a typical election, my county may have up to 250+ variations on the ballots. Registration can't be replaced by a ID card. Otherwise, everybody (citizens) can be issued a Passport card and the problem will go away. In fact it is quite easy to do since we already have a Social Security card that has to be shown for a new job, Driver license, getting a mortgage etc., The Federal government can simply merge Social security card with the Passport card.


    https://media.cntraveler.com/photos/5717f9d680cf3e034f9741a7/16:9/w_1280,c_limit/passport-card-sample.jpg

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @anon

    The Federal government can simply merge Social security card with the Passport card.

    There you go. Good idea. Then you have a cedula.

    And once everyone has an ID number, then it can be put to all kinds of excellent uses.

    For example with a cedula number anyone in Ecuador over the age of 65 can get a refund on any of the 12% sales/consumption tax they pay–up to \$250 per month, and get 50% discounts on all public transportation within the country, 50% off cell phone bills, movie tickets, and on international flights on some airlines.

    People in the US would positively want a national ID card if there were associated benefits on things Americans like, like lower income tax rates and discounts at Disney, and half price airport parking.

    • Replies: @epebble
    @Jonathan Mason

    Just to clarify, I was making a statement that merging Social security card with Passport card will not solve the problem of registration. You are from Ecuador, a (nice but) small Unitary State. Think of U.S. as 3,000 Ecuadors! Each with own rules, regulations, deadlines, independent Election officials etc., Our system of Governments is so complicated that many Americans only have the vaguest notion of it! Simple minded solutions are just that - won't work!

    And, Oh, BTW, our seniors can get all the discounts they can with Driver's license or State ID (or even any ID). And, no, you can't tie Tax discounts with ID card because our tax system is too complicated for such simplicity.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

  162. @Anonymous
    Anyone know of a high signal to noise milblog or foreign policy site covering the Afghan situation? I don't mind a conservative slant, but looking for solid info and smart analysis/speculation. Not just the yuck, yuck Rush Limbaugh style throw stuff at Biden crap.

    (I don't watch Fox or CNN or read the newspaper.)

    Replies: @anon

    If something like that exists, it is sure to be moderated; likely to be invitation only; and definitely not the kind of group that would allow itself to be revealed via comments on an open site like this one.

    So…good luck on that.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @anon

    Something has changed with the Internet since 10-15 years ago. Used to be more good little corners. Not perfect, but more nuggets. Good forums and blogs.

  163. @epebble
    @Jonathan Mason

    I think you may not be aware of complexity of U.S. elections. Where I live, I may be in 5 separate districts for different offices. U.S. Representative, State Representative, State Senator, County Supervisor, City Councilor (if I am in a City, I am not - I am in an Unincorporated area). Then you have School district, Water district, Fire district, Sewer district etc.,. In a typical election, my county may have up to 250+ variations on the ballots. Registration can't be replaced by a ID card. Otherwise, everybody (citizens) can be issued a Passport card and the problem will go away. In fact it is quite easy to do since we already have a Social Security card that has to be shown for a new job, Driver license, getting a mortgage etc., The Federal government can simply merge Social security card with the Passport card.


    https://media.cntraveler.com/photos/5717f9d680cf3e034f9741a7/16:9/w_1280,c_limit/passport-card-sample.jpg

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @anon

    I think you may not be aware of complexity of U.S. elections.

    I think you may not be aware that Mason is just a boring troll who enjoys taking the piss from Yanks.

  164. @Thoughts
    I paused for a long time and thought 'Is this made up?' when I read 1 "Surviving" Child and 6 Grandchildren along with Bus Driver as a job

    Then I got fed up and scrolled down to Steve's comment at the bottom and went

    Ha Ha Steve, Ha Ha

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Hypnotoad666, @Alfa158, @Alden

    Big city union bus drivers make very high incomes. Incomes most cubicle “ professionals” only wish they could make. And the blacks have a great financial advantage In that nice homes in black neighborhoods cost about 40 percent less than equal homes in White neighborhoods and suburbs.

  165. @ATBOTL
    @Jack Armstrong


    ...spoke of missions to Cuba and Venezuela...
     
    This person was a neocon/counter jihad/imperialist type, not someone connected to the alt-right or pro-white movement.

    We are seeing a growing trend of boomer mainstream conservative getting militant without embracing white nationalism and traditional "far right" ideology. There are now three "colorblind" civnat type militia groups operating nationally - the Oath-Keepers, 3%ers and Proud Boys. At the same time, real white nationalists are staying away from public confrontations and militant rhetoric.

    Replies: @rebel yell

    At the same time, real white nationalists are staying away from public confrontations and militant rhetoric.

    Real people of all stripes are staying away from public confrontations and militant rhetoric, as well they should. The people on the street spraying each other with bear spray are nuts.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @rebel yell

    They're mostly govt informants.

  166. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jonathan Mason

    Again, I can't tell if you are being purposefully obtuse or just are innumerate this time. Do you know the difference in MAGNITUDE of the immigration to the US, Canada, Australia, Sweden, France, and Germany compared to immigration to a place like Ecuador? I mean the magnitude of the proportion of the population that comes in each year.

    Legal immigration in large numbers isn't any better than illegal immigration in large numbers. You tell me one country outside the developed Western world that takes in (well, is FORCED to take in) 1/2 to 1% of their population in foreigners each year.


    Many people want to live in different countries from the ones that they were born in.
     
    So what? They are a drop in the bucket. Tell me how much of Thailand's, Costa Rica's, Belize's (favorites of American ex-pats) , or Ecuador's populations are made of these ex-pats. What percentage of each country is foreign from anywhere? Do you understand that 15% of the people living here right now were born elsewhere?

    Drops in the bucket of ex-pats and/or well under 1% assimilating foreigners in a DECADE is not the same as the invasion that the Western nations are undergoing.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @anon

    Again, I can’t tell if you are being purposefully obtuse

    Dude. He’s just better at trolling than you are. Think about that for a moment. Then think some more.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @anon

    I've thought for 35 seconds already. I'm gettin' nuthin'. Do you have a point to make?

    Replies: @iDeplorable, @anon

  167. @Reg Cæsar
    Sorry for the OT, but the headline is irresistable:

    As a trans masculine person, my period doesn't trigger feelings of anxiety - until I have to buy menstrual products labeled 'for women'


    Also, I once shared an elevator with this man and his elderly relatives-- seemed like a sweet kid:


    Igor Vovkovinskiy, tallest man in US, dies in Minnesota

    Replies: @Alden

    You know many things I don’t Reg. Specially your maps and geography knowledge. Soooo can you explain to me how even with some kind of Dr Frankenstein artificial womb does blood collect there 3 weeks a month to make a bed for a fertile egg? And how does it get out? .

    In other news boys who think they are girls are demanding icky gross urinals be removed from all the uni sex school bathrooms. I doubt it’s the boys who think they are boys making these demands It’s probably the gender counselors the schools are hiring at 80K to start 110K after 5 years who are making the complaints.

  168. @mc23
    Complaining about Gentrification is an an exercise in hypocrisy. Black violence and social pathology forces, it just drives out other races as blacks become predominate in a neighborhood.

    Nothing is said about race based ethnic cleansing when blacks move in but when enterprising Whites move into a dysfunctional area because of the low housing costs and raise the quality of life for everyone the black property owners complain about a rise in property values/taxes from the prior crash in real estate values that they or their family caused.

    Ironic that blacks moving in cost Whites money and Whites moving in make money for blacks.

    Replies: @Alden

    Also endless complaints about asian Hispanic and other immigrants moving into black neighborhoods. That’s what we get in California

  169. Even without the not-so-subtle hint in the title to this post, it’s immediately obvious that this is a “find and replace all” job.

    No publication could survive publishing that in the current year.

  170. @Almost Missouri
    @Barnard

    This is a potentially significant story, but, as is now customary with the MSM, it completely skips the interesting aspects:

    • Did they just reward spendthift students with thousands of dollars while telling thrifty students to pound sand?

    • Is this Federal money also available to other ethnicities? If not, why not?

    • If the HBCUs got free Federal money they could use for any purpose, why did they hand it over to their most fiscally improvident students?

    Replies: @rebel yell, @Barnard

    Additional questions:
    Did the students with canceled debts get worthless degrees that could only lead to HR diversity officer jobs?
    Is this another level of subsidy for these diversity officers? Subsidized with a make work job, and additionally subsidized with cancellation of student debt?

  171. @Jonathan Mason
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Ecuador has a population of approximately 16 million and receives about 400,000 immigrants and refugees per year, mostly from Colombia and Peru, but a lot right now from Haiti and Venezuela.

    That would amount to about 2.5% per year. in 2018 the US received about a million immigrants, which is about 1/3% of the total population of over 300 million.

    Other countries that receive a lot of immigrants would include the UK, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Germany, Spain, Chile, Japan, South Korea, Turkey, and Canada.

    Of course you have to consider the size of the existing population and the size of the landmass to compare countries, and while I will grant you that the US receives more immigrants in raw numbers (except possibly for Germany), the impact of digesting the immigrants may be just as great in other countries.

    In 2018 Germany received substantially more immigrants into a much smaller country, and Spain received about half as many as the US. The population of the US is more than 6 times the population of Spain, and the land area more than 10 times.

    Anyway, the main point is that several other countries are affected by immigration just as much, if not more, than the US, and that there are US citizens living all over the world.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Daniel H

    Ecuador has a population of approximately 16 million and receives about 400,000 immigrants and refugees per year, mostly from Colombia and Peru, but a lot right now from Haiti and Venezuela.

    That would amount to about 2.5% per year. in 2018 the US received about a million immigrants, which is about 1/3% of the total population of over 300 million.

    C’mon the immigrants coming into the USA are not of the same kind as that coming into Ecuador. The vast majority of immigrants coming into the USA are non-white, non Christian and non-European, cultural elements that are central to the American identity. Peruvians, Venezuelans and Colombians (Andean highlanders) are the same people, the same kind as Ecuadorans.

  172. Find-and-replace is fun the other way, too, ie

    “There are different strains of blacksplaining, but what unites them all is the belief that black people are more qualified to decide what’s racist and what’s not, says Jonathan Walton, author of “Twelve Lies That Hold America Captive.”

  173. @Bugg
    @International Jew

    The article, at least the portions not behind a paywall, doesn't mention Hasidic Jews. Eastern Parkway is dominated by Jews, and 30 years ago this week, there was a full scale riot between blacks and Jews when Rabbi Schneerson's car struck and killed a Carribean boy, whereupon a gang of blacks stabbed an Hasidic guy to death (Lemrick Nelson was acquitted in state court of murder and convicted in federal court of civil rights violations; 2 sovereigns trumped double jeopardy, another day , another rant about trampling on the Constitution when ever government chooses to do so). Mr. Holley also doesn't mention he almost certainly bought his home 58 years ago from an Irish or Italian family fleeing the wonderful black people , who turned the non-Hasidic part of Crown Heights into a dump.

    Replies: @International Jew

    The article, at least the portions not behind a paywall, doesn’t mention Hasidic Jews.

    I searched the entire article for “jew”, “hasid”, “hassid”, “chasid” and “chassid”: nada, gurnisht.

  174. @Almost Missouri
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Agree. Suggested replacement headline for the NYT article:


    See How this Brooklyn Bus Driver Retired Early on Disability and Became a Multimillionaire Using This One Weird Trick!
     
    Only in America, as they say. You'd think the race boosters would would be jumping for joy at Mr. Holley's extraordinary good fortune. Not a bit of it, of course, there's always another angle in the race grievance industry.

    Dr. Faber noted first and foremost that “these longtime homeowners should be congratulated and appropriately compensated for these investments they made in these neighborhoods when [white] households were fleeing decades ago.”
     
    Well, technically, he inherited the house, so he didn't actually make the investment, his mother (or father?) did. Back before the [anti-]Civil Rights revolution, most blacks married, so the Holleys' home ownership was likely an artifact of the functional nuclear families that the liberals have worked so hard to eradicate.

    Tellingly, all three of the black homeownership examples in Ms. Kerubo's original article were acquired before the Fair Housing Act, which was supposedly going to turn all black families into homeowners. Similarly, elsewhere in in Ms. Kerubo's twitter feed is this NYT headline:


    Black homeownership rates are at their lowest since housing discrimination was made illegal 5 decades ago
     
    What a paradox for liberals! They tossed away the Constitution to give the poor blacks a leg up, and ... everything backfired. Of course it never occurred to them that legal separation may have had some benefits for blacks too. Ensconced in their own communities, blacks weren't outcompeted by other ethnic groups for housing stock. Black women had a better pick of black men when the men wouldn't outmarry to other ethnicities. Etc. But liberals could only whinge about the supposed "horrors of Jim Crow". Well, no worries, as Ms. Kerobu notes in her article, Biden has restored Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing, and it'll work for sure this time!

    Replies: @guest007, @Forbes, @Intelligent Dasein

    Thanks. That was a very pertinent and well written reply.

  175. @Jonathan Mason
    @MEH 0910

    Oh, no! Another Stone has stopped rolling.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Oh, no! Another Stone has stopped rolling.

    As well as the lady the guy on public radio called “the sixth or seventh Beatle”:

    SHE’S LEAVING HOME: THE BEATLES’ HARPIST HAS DIED

  176. @ATBOTL
    @Gary in Gramercy


    ...a nice Lubavitcher couple...
     
    Lubavitchers are nice? Not in my experience. They are some of the biggest jerks you could ever meet.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @SaneClownPosse

    Any Lubavitcher who doesn’t pick me off the street, throw me in the Mitzvah Tank and make me lay tefillin against my will is nice in my book.

  177. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jonathan Mason

    One million per year LEGALLY into the US is not one million immigrants. It is probably well over 2 million, and then in '21, the sky's the limit. Ecuador is getting more South Americans. OMG! That'd be like North Carolina getting more Virginians and S. Carolinians. (It's terrible when they get New Yorkers - that'd be like Ecuador getting Guyanans - yeah, I know, still officially S. Americans, but ...)

    BTW, who in his right mind wants to move to Saudi Arabia?

    I remember a long time ago a friend telling me a story about some survey that was done via phone calls to embassies or what-have-you around the world asking about the difficulty of immigration to each place. Upon questioning someone from one of the darkest shitholes, he got the reply "I don't know. Nobody ever asks us about this."

    Replies: @bigdicknick

    In Alien Nation, Peter Brimelow has a part where he calls the embassies of a bunch of successful asian countries asking how he can immigrate there i.e. south korea, japan etc. They inform him they don’t have a process for him to become a japanese, south korean etc. citizen in place.

    • Replies: @epebble
    @bigdicknick

    If you call U.S. embassy in Canada (pretending to be a Canadian) and ask how to immigrate to U.S. , you will get the Same answer. There is no "Free" immigration into U.S. There is only Preferred immigration i.e. you have to qualify under some quota. Typically, most immigrants come under Family Preference i.e. they have a family member in U.S. Some come because an employer wants them. Others are Refugees/Asylees. Only a tiny number come as Diversity immigrants i.e. they do not have a relative or employer to sponsor them.

    Long story short: If you call Any embassy in the world and say I just want to immigrate, unless you say you are a millionaire, they will ask you to see a psychiatrist.

    Replies: @epebble

  178. @Anonymous Jew
    @Intelligent Dasein

    The decline in median wage plus the appreciation of housing in metro areas - even red metro areas - has really screwed over most Americans. At least the majority that did not see their wages increase due to the technology (ie engineers et al). In the 1950’s, it wasn’t unusual for middle class families to own two cars that cost more than their house. Now even the exurbs in red state metros aren’t close to that cheap.

    The $64,000 question, at least for us crimethinkers, is how much post-1965 immigration is to blame.

    Admittedly, Park Slope is an extreme example of real estate appreciation. The one I’m most familiar with is San Francisco. For many years we rented in the Outer Sunset, a once working class Irish neighborhood. Most homes were nearly identical: post-war row houses with 2bd 1ba roughly 1,200 sq ft up top with a garage and unfinished space on the ground floor (though most were remodeled, usually to add square footage downstairs). As I type, the typical going price for these houses, even with no improvements, is $1.1 - 1.3 million.

    So in the Outer Sunset you had many working class Irish versions of the story above. Patrick McMurphy works at the local grocery store, and when he’s finally ready to retire in Florida he cashes out to the Chinese and ends up well ahead of many engineers in his generation. Not bad, and it’s not happening to another generation anytime soon.

    Last thought - imagine what would happen to real estate prices in 50 years with an immigration moratorium and below-replacement fertility?

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    It’s endlessly frustrating to me that more people aren’t talking about this. The economic condition of America is far and away the most interesting and important topic affecting us right now.

    If the American people so desired it, they have it within their power to wrest their country and their liberty back from the oligarchs. It all begins with deleveraging.

    My simple, popular proposal goes something like this: Just pick one day a week and commit to not spending any money. Do not go shopping, do not order anything online, do not go out to eat. Hey, why not make it Sunday, the traditional sabbath day of Christians, when we aren’t supposed to do those things anyway? Then, take the money you saved by not shopping and use it to retire some debt. Make an extra principal payment on your mortgage or auto loan, or pay down a credit card. Start sending deflationary vibrations through the system so that the bankers start getting scared.

    After enough people commit to this, then we can start talking about really changing the culture. Stop spending money on socially disruptive and wasteful things like professional sports. Stop using social media (the “network effect” is a two-edged sword; once a critical mass of people begin leaving Facebook and Twitter, they have sharply reduced the utility that those venues possess for those that remain, which will precipitate an avalanche of defections and cause these nasty companies to collapse). Do not order anything from Amazon and, in general, boycott all the “disruptors” and parasitical sharing service companies. Defer the purchase of anything you can live without, until you can pay for it outright. End the education racket by forming homeschooling co-ops and never, ever borrow money to pay for college. If possible, do not go to college in the first place; find a way to learn a marketable trade outside of the school system.

    The end result of all this will be a great deflationary collapse like 2008. Yes, we will have to deal with the unemployment and bankruptcy this will result in, but someday we’re going to have to deal with that anyway. We might as well get going on it. This is the only way to flush the zombiefication and market distortions out of the system and depose the vampires who benefit from them.

    We need a real populist uprising of the financial sort. It has been struggling to break out for years now, waiting for a leader. It provided a great deal of the energy to Trump’s 2016 campaign but clearly Trump did not understand it and was not suited for it. The next Trump will not be an orange buffoon but a serious Caesar striking at the heart of the Optimates. We have a duty to make straight his paths.

    • Replies: @epebble
    @Intelligent Dasein

    The end result of all this will be a great deflationary collapse like 2008.

    No it won't. What you have described will make people a little frugal and may increase their savings rate - which is very desirable. A simple back of the envelope calculation will prove you wrong: If you take a median household's expenses, bulk of expenses are housing, healthcare, education, taxes, transportation (for work); all essential expenses over which a household has only a small control. The rest, which is slightly discretionary, is not much to make a difference.

    In fact a strange thing may even happen. We have (as a nation) been conditioned to think consumption is the means to happiness (for a couple of generations), cutting down on consumption may make us emotionally unwell. The drug/alcohol/opioid/violence crisis fairly coincides with the beginning of weaker economic trends.

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I did all this for years and it didn't seem to make a lot of difference to the economy oh, but it sure saved me a lot of money.

    The main thing you missed out is not using credit cards, or at least not using them to borrow money. Only use them as a convenience to purchase things like airline tickets and car rentals on vacation oh, and pay off the entire balance within 30 days.

    Also not buying cars or furniture on installment plans. And checking out local thrift stores for clothing before buying retail.

    The one day a week sabbatical idea is an interesting one, but it will not save you much on overall expenditure other than cost of gasoline used, or not eating at Subway or Starbucks while you are at the shopping mall, because the expenditure will simply be shifted to other days of the week.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    , @F. Galton
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Dave Ramsey's movement is on the road to accomplishing what you describe. He's hated by bankers and other money lenders for good reason; and he's the target of many smear campaigns and cheap shots by the corporate lending machine.

    Ramsey's a man of wisdom, charisma, and integrity - and one to watch because he could affect national politics at some point.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

  179. @Jonathan Mason
    @epebble


    The Federal government can simply merge Social security card with the Passport card.
     
    There you go. Good idea. Then you have a cedula.

    And once everyone has an ID number, then it can be put to all kinds of excellent uses.

    For example with a cedula number anyone in Ecuador over the age of 65 can get a refund on any of the 12% sales/consumption tax they pay--up to $250 per month, and get 50% discounts on all public transportation within the country, 50% off cell phone bills, movie tickets, and on international flights on some airlines.

    People in the US would positively want a national ID card if there were associated benefits on things Americans like, like lower income tax rates and discounts at Disney, and half price airport parking.

    Replies: @epebble

    Just to clarify, I was making a statement that merging Social security card with Passport card will not solve the problem of registration. You are from Ecuador, a (nice but) small Unitary State. Think of U.S. as 3,000 Ecuadors! Each with own rules, regulations, deadlines, independent Election officials etc., Our system of Governments is so complicated that many Americans only have the vaguest notion of it! Simple minded solutions are just that – won’t work!

    And, Oh, BTW, our seniors can get all the discounts they can with Driver’s license or State ID (or even any ID). And, no, you can’t tie Tax discounts with ID card because our tax system is too complicated for such simplicity.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @epebble

    Yes, but there have always been these kind of arguments.

    For example for years Amazon.com claimed that they could not charge sales tax, because it was different in every country and it was just too damn hard for them to figure it out.

    Then when they HAD to charge sales tax, they managed to figure it out. Thank goodness, because otherwise that would have been the end of Amazon.

    The US is hamstrung in any attempts to modernize, because it is tied to an obsolete constitution written before the age of mass transportation other than ships, before California or Florida were even states, when the abolition of slavery was unthinkable, and before the age of mass communications, before the first letter with a stamp was mailed with the head of Queen Victoria on it.

    This constitution can only become more and more obsolete as a blueprint on how to govern a continental nation, but the only way to amend it is as laid down in the obsolete constitution and it is practically impossible to do.

    In contrast the French Constitution has been replaced 4 times and the current constitution of 1958 has been amended 24 times.

    Meanwhile in the US the most recent Constitutional Amendment, the XXVIIth, took 202 years to get ratified! And there have only been 4 Amendments since 1958, most of which were concerned with trivial stuff like appointing a vice-president, that did not affect most people's lives at all, other than the lowering of the voting age to 18.

    One of the French amendments was the introduction of the election of the President by universal suffrage (not by electoral college members appointed by states), which would be a good one for the US to adopt.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_amendments_under_the_French_Fifth_Republic#All_amendments

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

  180. Blacks have a certain sense of cohesion and community.

  181. @William Badwhite
    @Buffalo Joe


    A 2016 Porsche SUV that starts to depreciate the minute it leaves the lot is not an investment...And we are supposed to bring these people even
     
    I know you know all this Joe, I'm lecturing Culver here not you!

    With one or two exceptions, a car you have to finance is a car you can't afford. If this guy (a barber!) places enough value on owning a Porsche SUV that he's willing to go into debt to get it, that's his business. But then a sentence or two later he says that owning property was "the most ultimate" but beyond his means. Maybe it wouldn't be beyond his means if he placed less value on Porsche SUV's and having strangers shout compliments at him about his rims.

    One key aspect of building wealth is "income not spent". I think more blacks (and young people in general) should be exposed to some sort of Intro to Finance type education - the importance of saving, the true cost of financing consumer goods, generally living within your means, etc. Helping people avoid financial mistakes which can impact them for years seems like a decent thing to do.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    William, public education in America is worthy of a RICO investigation. Can’t teach finance to kids who can’t learn basic math and yet…they graduate HS. So sad. Stay safe my friend.

  182. @Buffalo Joe
    Hey, for all the articles about blacks not having savings or equity look at this guy! A freaking bus driver* with a brownstone in NYC and a condo in Florida. But I am willing to bet he doesn't own a BMW or a Benz with 20" chrome spinner rims and a shoe rack ladened with $600 sneakers. Priorities!*In most metro areas it is rare to see a White bus driver, so this life style can be done.

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education

    I have no problem with private sector bus drivers, truckers, Ubers, etc.

    I oppose public mass transit in every way, shape and form. From the guys who fix the subway tracks, to school/MTA bus drivers, to the Port Authority of NY/NJ, to Kennedy Airport.

  183. @Daniel H
    @Steve Sailer

    The Brooklyn Brownstone is a con, a merciless money pit. Must be avoided. Yes, the facades are absolutely beautiful, but behind is a creaky, honeycomb of decaying stick frame and dessicating heavy plaster, with turn of the century (19th/20th century) electrical and plumbing infrastructure. The simplest of contractor tasks are an ordeal. And your neighbors' problems are YOUR problems. No thanks, you can have it.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @cityview

    Thanks.

  184. @Stan Adams
    @Jonathan Mason


    Many people want to live in different countries from the ones that they were born in.
     
    You are one of them, obviously. You are English, and yet you choose not to live in England.

    How is it that a Brit currently residing in Ecuador has come to regard himself as the world's leading authority on America?

    Vox Day (an American ex-pat living in Italy) has popularized the term midwit to describe a particularly annoying personality type - someone with slightly higher-than-average intelligence who mistakenly believes he's a genius. This person walks around thinking that he has all the answers to everything. He's extremely generous with unsolicited advice.

    The midwit is a generally happy fellow, sustained by his cheerful contempt for his intellectual lessers. His greatest weakness is that when he is confronted with evidence that maybe, just maybe, he doesn't know everything there is to know about everything, or maybe, just maybe, there are other people in the world who are just as smart as him or - no, it's inconceivable - how could anyone be even smarter than ME?!? ... he shuts down. He can't process the humiliation. It's too much for him. So he withdraws into his little fantasy bubble, closes his eyes, sticks his fingers in his ears, and chants, "I can't hear you! I can't see you! I still know better than you!" Then he goes back to posting his walls of text.

    I find that this concept explains the posting habits of certain iSteve commenters. Perhaps others do as well.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Jonathan Mason

    Vox Day (an American ex-pat living in Italy) has popularized the term midwit to describe a particularly annoying personality type

    I call this phenomena the Dunning-Kruger effect of the second order—or DK2, if you will—which as far as I know is of my own coinage. These people are the epitome of the Dunning-Kruger effect, i.e. they have as little awareness of true intellectual excellence as ordinary DKs have of mental averageness.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Intelligent Dasein


    ...DK2, if you will—which as far as I know is of my own coinage. These people are the epitome of the Dunning-Kruger effect...
     
    Perhaps it should be called the Dunder Mifflin effect?

    Replies: @iDeplorable

  185. @Federalist
    Steve, what do you think about The Death of Citizenism? Will you defend your idea?

    https://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=24858


    A middle ground was staked out twenty years ago by Steve Sailer. He came up with an idea he called “citizenism” . . .

    In the end, Steve Sailer’s approach was rooted in a misunderstanding of what lies behind things like open borders. It was not a desire for mundane things like a desire to save the world or a demand for cheap labor. At the heart of the neoliberal project is the assertion that humans are infinitely adaptable to their culture. This is the unequivocal denial of biological reality. This is why citizenism was doomed from the start. It offered a compromise that could never be tolerated, much less accepted.
     

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    This topic is an important one and needs adequate exposition. I could write a much better version of this essay than the Newsweek-level treatment provided by the Z Man.

    • Replies: @Federalist
    @Intelligent Dasein


    I could write a much better version of this essay than the Newsweek-level treatment provided by the Z Man.
     
    Yet, you didn't.
  186. @bigdicknick
    @Achmed E. Newman

    In Alien Nation, Peter Brimelow has a part where he calls the embassies of a bunch of successful asian countries asking how he can immigrate there i.e. south korea, japan etc. They inform him they don't have a process for him to become a japanese, south korean etc. citizen in place.

    Replies: @epebble

    If you call U.S. embassy in Canada (pretending to be a Canadian) and ask how to immigrate to U.S. , you will get the Same answer. There is no “Free” immigration into U.S. There is only Preferred immigration i.e. you have to qualify under some quota. Typically, most immigrants come under Family Preference i.e. they have a family member in U.S. Some come because an employer wants them. Others are Refugees/Asylees. Only a tiny number come as Diversity immigrants i.e. they do not have a relative or employer to sponsor them.

    Long story short: If you call Any embassy in the world and say I just want to immigrate, unless you say you are a millionaire, they will ask you to see a psychiatrist.

    • Replies: @epebble
    @epebble

    I went to U.S. Embassy in Canada website to check on immigrant visa. They only mention Family-Based immigration and Fiance(e) visas, which pretty much implies no other kind of immigrant visas are given there.

    https://ca.usembassy.gov/

    The U.S. Embassy in U.K. has few more categories listed: Employment, "Special Immigrant" (I think this is for all the Hollywood types: Actors, Musicians, TV personalities etc., U.K. is famous for exporting). Then they have Diversity Visa program too since most people in U.K. don't have family members in U.S. to sponsor them.

    https://uk.usembassy.gov/visas/immigrant-visas/

    The U.S. Embassy in Australia seems to process only Family, Fiance(e) and Diversity too. So, not enough Australians here to bring in family.

    https://au.usembassy.gov/visas/immigrant-visas/

  187. @Stan Adams
    @Jonathan Mason


    Many people want to live in different countries from the ones that they were born in.
     
    You are one of them, obviously. You are English, and yet you choose not to live in England.

    How is it that a Brit currently residing in Ecuador has come to regard himself as the world's leading authority on America?

    Vox Day (an American ex-pat living in Italy) has popularized the term midwit to describe a particularly annoying personality type - someone with slightly higher-than-average intelligence who mistakenly believes he's a genius. This person walks around thinking that he has all the answers to everything. He's extremely generous with unsolicited advice.

    The midwit is a generally happy fellow, sustained by his cheerful contempt for his intellectual lessers. His greatest weakness is that when he is confronted with evidence that maybe, just maybe, he doesn't know everything there is to know about everything, or maybe, just maybe, there are other people in the world who are just as smart as him or - no, it's inconceivable - how could anyone be even smarter than ME?!? ... he shuts down. He can't process the humiliation. It's too much for him. So he withdraws into his little fantasy bubble, closes his eyes, sticks his fingers in his ears, and chants, "I can't hear you! I can't see you! I still know better than you!" Then he goes back to posting his walls of text.

    I find that this concept explains the posting habits of certain iSteve commenters. Perhaps others do as well.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Jonathan Mason

    How is it that a Brit currently residing in Ecuador has come to regard himself as the world’s leading authority on America?

    Actually I am a US citizen of many years standing and was a government employee in the US for many years, and a homeowner in the US, and had children in US schools, worked in health care systems in the US, and in prisons in the US, so I do know a bit about that country and how it goes about its business, but having lived in a number of other countries on both sides of the pond, and on three different continents, I am also in a good position to compare what it is like to live in the US with living in other countries that share this planet of ours with the US.

    In my view the biggest problem with politicians in the US is that they are very blinkered and do not nearly pay enough attention to how other countries deal with similar problems in a world where everywhere is becoming more the same.

    And the food is lousy!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jonathan Mason

    I have read your comments in which you've mentioned the work you've done in this country. Would you consider that idea that your working for government organizations as opposed to private business has done nothing but increase your Statist tendencies since you got here?


    And the food is lousy!
     
    Oh, what? Can't find a good Ecuadorean restaurant in all of greater Jacksonville? Go down to Ecuador - they have LOTS of them there. Don't they?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    , @Stan Adams
    @Jonathan Mason


    was a government employee in the US for many years
     
    This does not enhance your credibility.

    Where exactly have you lived and worked? “The US” is a big country.
  188. @Jonathan Mason
    @Stan Adams


    How is it that a Brit currently residing in Ecuador has come to regard himself as the world’s leading authority on America?
     
    Actually I am a US citizen of many years standing and was a government employee in the US for many years, and a homeowner in the US, and had children in US schools, worked in health care systems in the US, and in prisons in the US, so I do know a bit about that country and how it goes about its business, but having lived in a number of other countries on both sides of the pond, and on three different continents, I am also in a good position to compare what it is like to live in the US with living in other countries that share this planet of ours with the US.

    In my view the biggest problem with politicians in the US is that they are very blinkered and do not nearly pay enough attention to how other countries deal with similar problems in a world where everywhere is becoming more the same.

    And the food is lousy!

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Stan Adams

    I have read your comments in which you’ve mentioned the work you’ve done in this country. Would you consider that idea that your working for government organizations as opposed to private business has done nothing but increase your Statist tendencies since you got here?

    And the food is lousy!

    Oh, what? Can’t find a good Ecuadorean restaurant in all of greater Jacksonville? Go down to Ecuador – they have LOTS of them there. Don’t they?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I have also worked for a few private businesses in the United States.

    In fact I worked for a corporation that runs prisons and another corporation that prepares income tax forms. I also worked for an antiques dealer doing estate sales and exhibitions. I also worked for a non-profit healthcare organization, and for a for profit hospitals corporation.

    I am in favor of a mixed economy. I do believe that having long-time employers who provide regular employment with benefits is necessary to have stable and prosperous communities where people can raise children.

    It is interesting that whites in particular in the United States are reluctant to reproduce. Could this have something to do with employment insecurity? Or is it just that people do not know how to use Tinder?

    It is very noticeable here in Ecuador compared to the US that everywhere you go you see two-parent families with children. How can US whites be taught these reproductive skills?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  189. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Anonymous Jew

    It's endlessly frustrating to me that more people aren't talking about this. The economic condition of America is far and away the most interesting and important topic affecting us right now.

    If the American people so desired it, they have it within their power to wrest their country and their liberty back from the oligarchs. It all begins with deleveraging.

    My simple, popular proposal goes something like this: Just pick one day a week and commit to not spending any money. Do not go shopping, do not order anything online, do not go out to eat. Hey, why not make it Sunday, the traditional sabbath day of Christians, when we aren't supposed to do those things anyway? Then, take the money you saved by not shopping and use it to retire some debt. Make an extra principal payment on your mortgage or auto loan, or pay down a credit card. Start sending deflationary vibrations through the system so that the bankers start getting scared.

    After enough people commit to this, then we can start talking about really changing the culture. Stop spending money on socially disruptive and wasteful things like professional sports. Stop using social media (the "network effect" is a two-edged sword; once a critical mass of people begin leaving Facebook and Twitter, they have sharply reduced the utility that those venues possess for those that remain, which will precipitate an avalanche of defections and cause these nasty companies to collapse). Do not order anything from Amazon and, in general, boycott all the "disruptors" and parasitical sharing service companies. Defer the purchase of anything you can live without, until you can pay for it outright. End the education racket by forming homeschooling co-ops and never, ever borrow money to pay for college. If possible, do not go to college in the first place; find a way to learn a marketable trade outside of the school system.

    The end result of all this will be a great deflationary collapse like 2008. Yes, we will have to deal with the unemployment and bankruptcy this will result in, but someday we're going to have to deal with that anyway. We might as well get going on it. This is the only way to flush the zombiefication and market distortions out of the system and depose the vampires who benefit from them.

    We need a real populist uprising of the financial sort. It has been struggling to break out for years now, waiting for a leader. It provided a great deal of the energy to Trump's 2016 campaign but clearly Trump did not understand it and was not suited for it. The next Trump will not be an orange buffoon but a serious Caesar striking at the heart of the Optimates. We have a duty to make straight his paths.

    Replies: @epebble, @Jonathan Mason, @F. Galton

    The end result of all this will be a great deflationary collapse like 2008.

    No it won’t. What you have described will make people a little frugal and may increase their savings rate – which is very desirable. A simple back of the envelope calculation will prove you wrong: If you take a median household’s expenses, bulk of expenses are housing, healthcare, education, taxes, transportation (for work); all essential expenses over which a household has only a small control. The rest, which is slightly discretionary, is not much to make a difference.

    In fact a strange thing may even happen. We have (as a nation) been conditioned to think consumption is the means to happiness (for a couple of generations), cutting down on consumption may make us emotionally unwell. The drug/alcohol/opioid/violence crisis fairly coincides with the beginning of weaker economic trends.

  190. @anon
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Again, I can’t tell if you are being purposefully obtuse

    Dude. He's just better at trolling than you are. Think about that for a moment. Then think some more.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I’ve thought for 35 seconds already. I’m gettin’ nuthin’. Do you have a point to make?

    • Replies: @iDeplorable
    @Achmed E. Newman


    I’ve thought for 35 seconds already. I’m gettin’ nuthin’. Do you have a point to make?
     
    35 seconds is enough time for you to make another 3-4 inane, stupid, off-topic, unfunny posts. You're not going to beat Buzz and Reg at the geriatric post-off contest if you take time to think.

    Post, post like the wind.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @anon
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I’ve thought for 35 seconds already. I’m gettin’ nuthin’.

    Hmm...does that surprise you? I mean, is it unusual?

    Do you have a point to make?

    Yep. Already did. Guess you missed it.

  191. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Altai


    ... the tourists have the good manners to go home ...
     
    I like your idea, Altai, but I have to add that lots of times the "tourist" don't go home. That is a big part of illegal immigration of the Chinese and Indian variety. Tourist visas have time limits, but if a country is a stupid one and doesn't have "exit control" (i.e., keeping track of who leaves), then it can't really tell when tourists become immigrants. What makes it worse is that, once you get large numbers of any group, the illegal former tourists can mix in with no way in hell to go pick them out and send them home.

    Now, in a non-stupid country, like China, they have exit controls. If you have not left, they can come looking for you - there aren't 5 million round-eyes all living together to where they can't find you. From my own experience entering China from Macao to ZhuHai long ago, I saw how a SERIOUS country operates, in this case, with respect to worrisome Moslems - see "Chinese Immigration NON-Stupidity".

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Altai, @Lurker

    We’re hit with a blizzard of terms – visa overstayers, refugees, economic migrants, students, asylum seekers, guest workers and others I’m sure.

    The mission is to get as many over the border as possible, settled down, breeding, voting.

    The words the regime uses are ultimately a smokescreen.

  192. Steve’s post made more sense when I finally connected the find and replace bit.

    Hey, the Honeymooners’ male lead was a bus operator.

    I figured the dad wanted the son to pay high market value, to fund his Florida lifestyle, and that’s why the son declined. Maybe the kid’s a meathead.

  193. @Trinity
    Another fleeing Yankee going to Florida. Great. Florida was GREAT in the late 1970s and early 1980s unless you happened to be in Miami when Carter dumped Cuban "refugees" aka jailbirds in the Miami-Fort Lauderdale area. St Pete-Clearwater-Tampa-Lakeland-Orlando area aka the I-4 corridor in the 1970s and early 1980s was BEAUTIFUL. Sure, it had its spots just like any area with any large population but it was a great place to live. This area in 2021 barely resembles the Bay Area of 20 years ago, much less the Golden Age of 40 years ago. Would I rather be in Florida than Brooklyn? Hell, at this point the only place I would take Brooklyn over are places like Detroit, Baltimore, Chicago or San FranSHITco. Yankee old timer would be much better off in the mountains of Tennessee, Georgia, or North Carolina. Hell, he might even find a fellow Yankee in these places now. Nashville is one the latest go to places for Yankees fleeing the North and Nashville is way Whiter than Orlando and probably much safer as well.

    Replies: @Tony massey, @Desiderius, @E. Rekshun

    Nashville is in the hands of the French Davidians. You’re better off in Knoxville or Cincinnati.

    • Replies: @Tony massey
    @Desiderius

    You might want to rethink knox. Depends of course.
    You'd be much happier in Anderson county. Or further east. Sevierville anyway.
    Nash is just to damn expensive, crowded and the traffic is a nightmare. Plus orcs.

    Replies: @rebel yell

  194. @ATBOTL
    @Gary in Gramercy


    ...a nice Lubavitcher couple...
     
    Lubavitchers are nice? Not in my experience. They are some of the biggest jerks you could ever meet.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @SaneClownPosse

    …a nice Lubavitcher couple…

    Perhaps, a dash of sarcasm was added.

  195. @JimDandy
    @ScarletNumber

    Oh, hey, y'all. Just re-reading The Lover by Duras on the rooftop on my birthday.

    Replies: @Billy Corr

    Go and see the movie! The young lady is a real stunner, especially when she is watering the indoor plants.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Billy Corr

    Saw it! And I agree. Not a very PC book for that progressive broad-of-color to be bragging about reading, tho--a romantic drama about a 15 year old getting repeatedly banged by an older dude? Cancelled!

  196. @epebble
    @bigdicknick

    If you call U.S. embassy in Canada (pretending to be a Canadian) and ask how to immigrate to U.S. , you will get the Same answer. There is no "Free" immigration into U.S. There is only Preferred immigration i.e. you have to qualify under some quota. Typically, most immigrants come under Family Preference i.e. they have a family member in U.S. Some come because an employer wants them. Others are Refugees/Asylees. Only a tiny number come as Diversity immigrants i.e. they do not have a relative or employer to sponsor them.

    Long story short: If you call Any embassy in the world and say I just want to immigrate, unless you say you are a millionaire, they will ask you to see a psychiatrist.

    Replies: @epebble

    I went to U.S. Embassy in Canada website to check on immigrant visa. They only mention Family-Based immigration and Fiance(e) visas, which pretty much implies no other kind of immigrant visas are given there.

    https://ca.usembassy.gov/

    The U.S. Embassy in U.K. has few more categories listed: Employment, “Special Immigrant” (I think this is for all the Hollywood types: Actors, Musicians, TV personalities etc., U.K. is famous for exporting). Then they have Diversity Visa program too since most people in U.K. don’t have family members in U.S. to sponsor them.

    https://uk.usembassy.gov/visas/immigrant-visas/

    The U.S. Embassy in Australia seems to process only Family, Fiance(e) and Diversity too. So, not enough Australians here to bring in family.

    https://au.usembassy.gov/visas/immigrant-visas/

  197. @Achmed E. Newman
    @James N. Kennett

    It's OK, James. Once they get settled in Minneapolis, they will be fully, FULLY vetted, FULLY, I tells ya, before they are put to work on the ramp servicing airplanes at MSP, or working at the TSA checking out White grannies, gays, and grandes for weapons, sometimes even grappling (with) them.

    They can be put to work alongside the Somalians already established there, with hopefully no friction among them, no, no friction at all. HR ladies will make sure of this.

    I mean "VETTED", James, in all caps - arrest records, gun ownership, Afghani elementary school grades, time spent in the RTC (that's detention, but it's called the Responsible Thinking Center now, for, like clarity's sake), all of it. FULLY! VETTED!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    They can be put to work alongside the Somalians already established there…

    I dare you to go home and tell Iman or Ayaan or Ilhan you just threw away her flight benefits. I’d rather take my chances on the compromised aircraft.

  198. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Stan Adams


    Vox Day (an American ex-pat living in Italy) has popularized the term midwit to describe a particularly annoying personality type
     
    I call this phenomena the Dunning-Kruger effect of the second order---or DK2, if you will---which as far as I know is of my own coinage. These people are the epitome of the Dunning-Kruger effect, i.e. they have as little awareness of true intellectual excellence as ordinary DKs have of mental averageness.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    …DK2, if you will—which as far as I know is of my own coinage. These people are the epitome of the Dunning-Kruger effect…

    Perhaps it should be called the Dunder Mifflin effect?

    • Replies: @iDeplorable
    @Reg Cæsar


    Perhaps it should be called the Dunder Mifflin effect?
     
    Hilarious! You really added value to the discussion here Reg, great work. Keep it up.

    Idiot.
  199. @Billy Corr
    @JimDandy

    Go and see the movie! The young lady is a real stunner, especially when she is watering the indoor plants.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    Saw it! And I agree. Not a very PC book for that progressive broad-of-color to be bragging about reading, tho–a romantic drama about a 15 year old getting repeatedly banged by an older dude? Cancelled!

  200. @Desiderius
    @Trinity

    Nashville is in the hands of the French Davidians. You’re better off in Knoxville or Cincinnati.

    Replies: @Tony massey

    You might want to rethink knox. Depends of course.
    You’d be much happier in Anderson county. Or further east. Sevierville anyway.
    Nash is just to damn expensive, crowded and the traffic is a nightmare. Plus orcs.

    • Replies: @rebel yell
    @Tony massey

    Why are so many outsiders moving to Tennessee? It will only ruin the state, so Tennessee is already a place you don't want to move to just because so many others are going there.
    So many newcomers replace the traditional culture with modern culture and that's that.
    Best to pick a poorer place with a Hillbilly reputation that no Connecticut Yankee or New York Jew would ever consider moving to. Arkansas, Oklahoma, Missouri, western Kansas, eastern Montana. When you get there you'll find that the people have fine character, land is cheap, the hospitals are up to date, and internet connection is just as good as anywhere else. What's not to like?

  201. @mmack
    Steve,

    Somewhat related, yet somewhat off topic, I saw this story and wanted to post it for your commentary.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/peoria-il-real-estate/

    “The strange summer land rush in Peoria’s dying south end”

    “PEORIA, Ill. — A block that had once been home to more than 100 people was down to six who lived amid the ruins of another era. There were gaping holes in roofs and crumbling foundations. Some houses were so bad that even the squatters had quit on them, and now only raccoons and rodents sought them out for shelter.

    And then, for reasons that no one in Peoria could fathom, people from all over America began snapping them up. By early summer, seven houses on this block of West Lincoln Avenue had sold to buyers from Los Angeles, San Diego, Long Island, Tacoma, Wash., and other far-off places.”

    Take a gander at who is buying these houses, and the financial situation some of these folks are in. You’ll notice a common thread across the stories of the buyers. Maybe it’s fodder for another post, maybe not.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @Prester John, @cityview, @gandydancer

    I missed this article, which is probably one of the most unusual stories I’ve ever read in the Post. Earlier this year, or maybe in 2020, the Post ran a story about several white people who lived in south Peoria. The houses weren’t in good shape, but they didn’t look as bad as those in the current article. The people described were all having a hard time, the comments were enabled, and many were vicious. I wonder whether the earlier story brought online attention to these sections of the city.

    In the recent story, I don’t think the real estate is worth salvaging. There may be industrial contamination around many of these properties. I note with disapproval the store owner’s contempt for his customers, not pictured.

  202. @Daniel H
    @Steve Sailer

    The Brooklyn Brownstone is a con, a merciless money pit. Must be avoided. Yes, the facades are absolutely beautiful, but behind is a creaky, honeycomb of decaying stick frame and dessicating heavy plaster, with turn of the century (19th/20th century) electrical and plumbing infrastructure. The simplest of contractor tasks are an ordeal. And your neighbors' problems are YOUR problems. No thanks, you can have it.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @cityview

    Oh, yes, I agree. And not just Brooklyn brownstones, but many other older properties that are humbler. And on top of that, some of these, like Mr. Holley’s house and others I have read about, are two-family; so if the buyer does not convert to a single-family, he or she is stuck with renting out half the house. I would gladly take the money, but I wouldn’t want to own one of these houses ever.

  203. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Federalist

    This topic is an important one and needs adequate exposition. I could write a much better version of this essay than the Newsweek-level treatment provided by the Z Man.

    Replies: @Federalist

    I could write a much better version of this essay than the Newsweek-level treatment provided by the Z Man.

    Yet, you didn’t.

  204. @3g4me
    @International Jew

    @14 International Jew: Jews (particular Hasidic ones) are not equivalent to European Whites. And Hasidic hostility to Christian Whites is at least equal to if not greater than Mr. Holley's hostility to said Jews. Christian White Europeans are not moving back to New York or any other large city. Those few Whites and the other "fellow Whites" who do so are not my concern and do not have my sympathy for any subsequent ethnic and racial consequences. They are not my people.

    Replies: @International Jew

    You shouldn’t get hung up on who likes you. Voodoo and evil spells aren’t real.

    And Jews are more European than Hungarians, if you want to go by length of residence in Europe.

  205. @Jonathan Mason
    @Stan Adams


    How is it that a Brit currently residing in Ecuador has come to regard himself as the world’s leading authority on America?
     
    Actually I am a US citizen of many years standing and was a government employee in the US for many years, and a homeowner in the US, and had children in US schools, worked in health care systems in the US, and in prisons in the US, so I do know a bit about that country and how it goes about its business, but having lived in a number of other countries on both sides of the pond, and on three different continents, I am also in a good position to compare what it is like to live in the US with living in other countries that share this planet of ours with the US.

    In my view the biggest problem with politicians in the US is that they are very blinkered and do not nearly pay enough attention to how other countries deal with similar problems in a world where everywhere is becoming more the same.

    And the food is lousy!

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Stan Adams

    was a government employee in the US for many years

    This does not enhance your credibility.

    Where exactly have you lived and worked? “The US” is a big country.

  206. @Almost Missouri
    @Barnard

    This is a potentially significant story, but, as is now customary with the MSM, it completely skips the interesting aspects:

    • Did they just reward spendthift students with thousands of dollars while telling thrifty students to pound sand?

    • Is this Federal money also available to other ethnicities? If not, why not?

    • If the HBCUs got free Federal money they could use for any purpose, why did they hand it over to their most fiscally improvident students?

    Replies: @rebel yell, @Barnard

    1. I don’t believe HBCUs have a significant number of thrifty students, but yes.

    2. Of course not. It is blatant discrimination in favor of black students at HBCUs.

    3. The HBCUs are trying to stay open. Attendance and enrollment rates are dropping. Since they get the bottom tier of black college applicants, the only real way they can keep unqualified students enrolled is through a gimmick like this.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Barnard

    Thanks.

    On #2, I have the impression that all universities got some kind of "covid relief" money, so maybe the HBCUs just decided to apply that to their students' outstanding balances. The article sort of vaguely implied that the HBCUs got extra money, but it wasn't clear.

  207. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jonathan Mason

    I have read your comments in which you've mentioned the work you've done in this country. Would you consider that idea that your working for government organizations as opposed to private business has done nothing but increase your Statist tendencies since you got here?


    And the food is lousy!
     
    Oh, what? Can't find a good Ecuadorean restaurant in all of greater Jacksonville? Go down to Ecuador - they have LOTS of them there. Don't they?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    I have also worked for a few private businesses in the United States.

    In fact I worked for a corporation that runs prisons and another corporation that prepares income tax forms. I also worked for an antiques dealer doing estate sales and exhibitions. I also worked for a non-profit healthcare organization, and for a for profit hospitals corporation.

    I am in favor of a mixed economy. I do believe that having long-time employers who provide regular employment with benefits is necessary to have stable and prosperous communities where people can raise children.

    It is interesting that whites in particular in the United States are reluctant to reproduce. Could this have something to do with employment insecurity? Or is it just that people do not know how to use Tinder?

    It is very noticeable here in Ecuador compared to the US that everywhere you go you see two-parent families with children. How can US whites be taught these reproductive skills?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jonathan Mason


    It is interesting that whites in particular in the United States are reluctant to reproduce. Could this have something to do with ...
     
    Feminism. Period. We've had over 1/2 a century of it.

    How can US whites be taught these reproductive skills?
     
    Overturn Feminism. Period.

    Of course, most American men are too pussified to even say or write what I just wrote.

    Replies: @anon

  208. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Anonymous Jew

    It's endlessly frustrating to me that more people aren't talking about this. The economic condition of America is far and away the most interesting and important topic affecting us right now.

    If the American people so desired it, they have it within their power to wrest their country and their liberty back from the oligarchs. It all begins with deleveraging.

    My simple, popular proposal goes something like this: Just pick one day a week and commit to not spending any money. Do not go shopping, do not order anything online, do not go out to eat. Hey, why not make it Sunday, the traditional sabbath day of Christians, when we aren't supposed to do those things anyway? Then, take the money you saved by not shopping and use it to retire some debt. Make an extra principal payment on your mortgage or auto loan, or pay down a credit card. Start sending deflationary vibrations through the system so that the bankers start getting scared.

    After enough people commit to this, then we can start talking about really changing the culture. Stop spending money on socially disruptive and wasteful things like professional sports. Stop using social media (the "network effect" is a two-edged sword; once a critical mass of people begin leaving Facebook and Twitter, they have sharply reduced the utility that those venues possess for those that remain, which will precipitate an avalanche of defections and cause these nasty companies to collapse). Do not order anything from Amazon and, in general, boycott all the "disruptors" and parasitical sharing service companies. Defer the purchase of anything you can live without, until you can pay for it outright. End the education racket by forming homeschooling co-ops and never, ever borrow money to pay for college. If possible, do not go to college in the first place; find a way to learn a marketable trade outside of the school system.

    The end result of all this will be a great deflationary collapse like 2008. Yes, we will have to deal with the unemployment and bankruptcy this will result in, but someday we're going to have to deal with that anyway. We might as well get going on it. This is the only way to flush the zombiefication and market distortions out of the system and depose the vampires who benefit from them.

    We need a real populist uprising of the financial sort. It has been struggling to break out for years now, waiting for a leader. It provided a great deal of the energy to Trump's 2016 campaign but clearly Trump did not understand it and was not suited for it. The next Trump will not be an orange buffoon but a serious Caesar striking at the heart of the Optimates. We have a duty to make straight his paths.

    Replies: @epebble, @Jonathan Mason, @F. Galton

    I did all this for years and it didn’t seem to make a lot of difference to the economy oh, but it sure saved me a lot of money.

    The main thing you missed out is not using credit cards, or at least not using them to borrow money. Only use them as a convenience to purchase things like airline tickets and car rentals on vacation oh, and pay off the entire balance within 30 days.

    Also not buying cars or furniture on installment plans. And checking out local thrift stores for clothing before buying retail.

    The one day a week sabbatical idea is an interesting one, but it will not save you much on overall expenditure other than cost of gasoline used, or not eating at Subway or Starbucks while you are at the shopping mall, because the expenditure will simply be shifted to other days of the week.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @Jonathan Mason


    The main thing you missed out is not using credit cards,
     
    I didn't miss that, I mentioned it. Can you not read?

    Also not buying cars or furniture on installment plans.
     
    I also mentioned that. Can you not read?

    The one day a week sabbatical idea is an interesting one, but it will not save you much on overall expenditure...because the expenditure will simply be shifted to other days of the week.
     
    I explicitly stated that the money not spent on purchases should be used to pay down debt, so it would not be spent on consumption other days of the week. Can you not read?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

  209. Mudmerica.
    Coming to a town near you.
    Very near you.

  210. @Trinity
    Another fleeing Yankee going to Florida. Great. Florida was GREAT in the late 1970s and early 1980s unless you happened to be in Miami when Carter dumped Cuban "refugees" aka jailbirds in the Miami-Fort Lauderdale area. St Pete-Clearwater-Tampa-Lakeland-Orlando area aka the I-4 corridor in the 1970s and early 1980s was BEAUTIFUL. Sure, it had its spots just like any area with any large population but it was a great place to live. This area in 2021 barely resembles the Bay Area of 20 years ago, much less the Golden Age of 40 years ago. Would I rather be in Florida than Brooklyn? Hell, at this point the only place I would take Brooklyn over are places like Detroit, Baltimore, Chicago or San FranSHITco. Yankee old timer would be much better off in the mountains of Tennessee, Georgia, or North Carolina. Hell, he might even find a fellow Yankee in these places now. Nashville is one the latest go to places for Yankees fleeing the North and Nashville is way Whiter than Orlando and probably much safer as well.

    Replies: @Tony massey, @Desiderius, @E. Rekshun

    Another fleeing Yankee going to Florida… old timer would be much better off in the mountains of Tennessee, Georgia, or North Carolina.

    My family started fleeing Massachusetts to FL in the mid-1970s, as did I in 1990. But by 1990, friends and family still working were relocating to southern NH, and those of retirement age were going to coastal southern Maine. Now it’s NC and SC.

  211. @Anon
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Immigrants were able to turn London into a mostly black and brown city because the white working class in London was as poor as dirt. Before World War 1, most working class whites made starvation wages. In the 1920s and 30s, they weren't much better off. Gradually, their wages improved a bit, but by that time the welfare state arrived and high taxes took a big chunk of those improved wages, leaving them only a little better off. Working class neighborhoods were still pretty poor when the great waves of immigrants arrived, and the housing was so cheap that immigrants could easily afford it.

    One of the reasons why the UK had a music boom in the 1960s is because a lot of white working class guys could make more money playing in a band than as a plumber's assistant. Wages were still so godawful that earning money on the side as a musician was a smart idea.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “housing was so cheap that immigrants could easily afford it”

    Everyone could easily afford it. Not so now. Affordable family formation for Brits has been trashed by vast amounts of credit, ever-widening wealth differentials thanks to Thatcher’s tax cuts for the high-paid, mass immigration and increased female employment – all of which have driven up house prices from around 3-4 times median male earnings to 8 times median male earnings.

    There were a few other helping hands in the 1970s, when mostly Labour councils demolished tens of thousands of perfectly good Victorian terraced homes, especially in Northern England.

  212. @anon
    @Anonymous

    If something like that exists, it is sure to be moderated; likely to be invitation only; and definitely not the kind of group that would allow itself to be revealed via comments on an open site like this one.

    So...good luck on that.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Something has changed with the Internet since 10-15 years ago. Used to be more good little corners. Not perfect, but more nuggets. Good forums and blogs.

  213. @Jonathan Mason
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I have also worked for a few private businesses in the United States.

    In fact I worked for a corporation that runs prisons and another corporation that prepares income tax forms. I also worked for an antiques dealer doing estate sales and exhibitions. I also worked for a non-profit healthcare organization, and for a for profit hospitals corporation.

    I am in favor of a mixed economy. I do believe that having long-time employers who provide regular employment with benefits is necessary to have stable and prosperous communities where people can raise children.

    It is interesting that whites in particular in the United States are reluctant to reproduce. Could this have something to do with employment insecurity? Or is it just that people do not know how to use Tinder?

    It is very noticeable here in Ecuador compared to the US that everywhere you go you see two-parent families with children. How can US whites be taught these reproductive skills?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    It is interesting that whites in particular in the United States are reluctant to reproduce. Could this have something to do with …

    Feminism. Period. We’ve had over 1/2 a century of it.

    How can US whites be taught these reproductive skills?

    Overturn Feminism. Period.

    Of course, most American men are too pussified to even say or write what I just wrote.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Overturn Feminism. Period.

    What's your plan? I mean, something beyond rants in comment boxes...

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Art Deco

  214. @Barnard
    @Desiderius

    Ben Sasse is trying to bring 50,000 Afghans to Nebraska. What sectors of the Nebraska economy does he think will benefit from this? How does he expect this to improve quality of life in the state? Ben's answers are "who cares, this is who we are!" He does make a good cautionary tale for never electing a college administrator to high office.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    Meat-packers? Corn de-tasselers? Husker linemen?

  215. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Anonymous Jew

    It's endlessly frustrating to me that more people aren't talking about this. The economic condition of America is far and away the most interesting and important topic affecting us right now.

    If the American people so desired it, they have it within their power to wrest their country and their liberty back from the oligarchs. It all begins with deleveraging.

    My simple, popular proposal goes something like this: Just pick one day a week and commit to not spending any money. Do not go shopping, do not order anything online, do not go out to eat. Hey, why not make it Sunday, the traditional sabbath day of Christians, when we aren't supposed to do those things anyway? Then, take the money you saved by not shopping and use it to retire some debt. Make an extra principal payment on your mortgage or auto loan, or pay down a credit card. Start sending deflationary vibrations through the system so that the bankers start getting scared.

    After enough people commit to this, then we can start talking about really changing the culture. Stop spending money on socially disruptive and wasteful things like professional sports. Stop using social media (the "network effect" is a two-edged sword; once a critical mass of people begin leaving Facebook and Twitter, they have sharply reduced the utility that those venues possess for those that remain, which will precipitate an avalanche of defections and cause these nasty companies to collapse). Do not order anything from Amazon and, in general, boycott all the "disruptors" and parasitical sharing service companies. Defer the purchase of anything you can live without, until you can pay for it outright. End the education racket by forming homeschooling co-ops and never, ever borrow money to pay for college. If possible, do not go to college in the first place; find a way to learn a marketable trade outside of the school system.

    The end result of all this will be a great deflationary collapse like 2008. Yes, we will have to deal with the unemployment and bankruptcy this will result in, but someday we're going to have to deal with that anyway. We might as well get going on it. This is the only way to flush the zombiefication and market distortions out of the system and depose the vampires who benefit from them.

    We need a real populist uprising of the financial sort. It has been struggling to break out for years now, waiting for a leader. It provided a great deal of the energy to Trump's 2016 campaign but clearly Trump did not understand it and was not suited for it. The next Trump will not be an orange buffoon but a serious Caesar striking at the heart of the Optimates. We have a duty to make straight his paths.

    Replies: @epebble, @Jonathan Mason, @F. Galton

    Dave Ramsey’s movement is on the road to accomplishing what you describe. He’s hated by bankers and other money lenders for good reason; and he’s the target of many smear campaigns and cheap shots by the corporate lending machine.

    Ramsey’s a man of wisdom, charisma, and integrity – and one to watch because he could affect national politics at some point.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @F. Galton

    I do have a fondness for Dave Ramsey.

  216. @rebel yell
    @ATBOTL


    At the same time, real white nationalists are staying away from public confrontations and militant rhetoric.
     
    Real people of all stripes are staying away from public confrontations and militant rhetoric, as well they should. The people on the street spraying each other with bear spray are nuts.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    They’re mostly govt informants.

  217. @Jonathan Mason
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Absolutely right!

    Here in Ecuador to make most purchases in stores and pharmacies, or to have a cell phone chip, or sometimes to buy a bus ticket, or to register in a hotel, you have to produce your cedula number, or if you don't have a cédula, then your passport number, so anybody who had overstayed a visa would leave a trail since the visa is electronically attached to the passport number.

    Your cédula number is similar to the social security number, and is also used for voting and accessing health services.

    People will freely give you their cedula number, so that, for example, you could deposit money to their bank account.

    I explained to an Ecuadorian that this seems very strange to an American, because we are urged to keep all social security numbers secret, apparently because they can be used to apply for a loan or credit card online under the name of the person who has the number.

    My Ecuadorian friend told me that the only way you could get a credit card in Ecuador would be to apply in person.

    Probably what the United States needs is to completely revamp its system of using state driver's licenses and social security cards as IDs, and start a better federal system.

    This could also be used to solve the problem of illegal hiring of foreigners.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Flip

    This could also be used to solve the problem of illegal hiring of foreigners.

    It could be, but the powers that be (both Democrats and establishment Republicans) don’t want to solve that problem.

  218. @epebble
    @Jonathan Mason

    Just to clarify, I was making a statement that merging Social security card with Passport card will not solve the problem of registration. You are from Ecuador, a (nice but) small Unitary State. Think of U.S. as 3,000 Ecuadors! Each with own rules, regulations, deadlines, independent Election officials etc., Our system of Governments is so complicated that many Americans only have the vaguest notion of it! Simple minded solutions are just that - won't work!

    And, Oh, BTW, our seniors can get all the discounts they can with Driver's license or State ID (or even any ID). And, no, you can't tie Tax discounts with ID card because our tax system is too complicated for such simplicity.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    Yes, but there have always been these kind of arguments.

    For example for years Amazon.com claimed that they could not charge sales tax, because it was different in every country and it was just too damn hard for them to figure it out.

    Then when they HAD to charge sales tax, they managed to figure it out. Thank goodness, because otherwise that would have been the end of Amazon.

    The US is hamstrung in any attempts to modernize, because it is tied to an obsolete constitution written before the age of mass transportation other than ships, before California or Florida were even states, when the abolition of slavery was unthinkable, and before the age of mass communications, before the first letter with a stamp was mailed with the head of Queen Victoria on it.

    This constitution can only become more and more obsolete as a blueprint on how to govern a continental nation, but the only way to amend it is as laid down in the obsolete constitution and it is practically impossible to do.

    In contrast the French Constitution has been replaced 4 times and the current constitution of 1958 has been amended 24 times.

    Meanwhile in the US the most recent Constitutional Amendment, the XXVIIth, took 202 years to get ratified! And there have only been 4 Amendments since 1958, most of which were concerned with trivial stuff like appointing a vice-president, that did not affect most people’s lives at all, other than the lowering of the voting age to 18.

    One of the French amendments was the introduction of the election of the President by universal suffrage (not by electoral college members appointed by states), which would be a good one for the US to adopt.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_amendments_under_the_French_Fifth_Republic#All_amendments

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @Jonathan Mason

    True but not true. The French have been a fount of bad political ideas, from the Revolution to Vichy to Foucault's post-pederasty... I mean, post modernism.

    The British learned from both the American and French mistakes, and perfected parliamentary democracy, which is why every democracy in the world (including France) follows their model, not the US.

    Direct election of the President would be a step backwards in the current system.

    The British solved the "problem" of the Electoral College by making it into the legislative body. America tried to have an elected king, the product of an Electoral College that did that and nothing else, then had the day to day legislation handled by a popularly elected Congress. The Brits kept the monarchy to handle ceremonial functions; France, Germany, Israel simply elect a President.

  219. @Tony massey
    @Desiderius

    You might want to rethink knox. Depends of course.
    You'd be much happier in Anderson county. Or further east. Sevierville anyway.
    Nash is just to damn expensive, crowded and the traffic is a nightmare. Plus orcs.

    Replies: @rebel yell

    Why are so many outsiders moving to Tennessee? It will only ruin the state, so Tennessee is already a place you don’t want to move to just because so many others are going there.
    So many newcomers replace the traditional culture with modern culture and that’s that.
    Best to pick a poorer place with a Hillbilly reputation that no Connecticut Yankee or New York Jew would ever consider moving to. Arkansas, Oklahoma, Missouri, western Kansas, eastern Montana. When you get there you’ll find that the people have fine character, land is cheap, the hospitals are up to date, and internet connection is just as good as anywhere else. What’s not to like?

  220. @Achmed E. Newman
    @anon

    I've thought for 35 seconds already. I'm gettin' nuthin'. Do you have a point to make?

    Replies: @iDeplorable, @anon

    I’ve thought for 35 seconds already. I’m gettin’ nuthin’. Do you have a point to make?

    35 seconds is enough time for you to make another 3-4 inane, stupid, off-topic, unfunny posts. You’re not going to beat Buzz and Reg at the geriatric post-off contest if you take time to think.

    Post, post like the wind.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @iDeplorable

    I still have no idea what the Anon guy was getting at. I'm not on here for guessing games. I've told a few women before that "I can't read your mind". So, here's another one.

    You two get back to your Facebook needlepoint group and chime in here on the topic occasionally.

    Replies: @iDeplorable

  221. @Reg Cæsar
    @Intelligent Dasein


    ...DK2, if you will—which as far as I know is of my own coinage. These people are the epitome of the Dunning-Kruger effect...
     
    Perhaps it should be called the Dunder Mifflin effect?

    Replies: @iDeplorable

    Perhaps it should be called the Dunder Mifflin effect?

    Hilarious! You really added value to the discussion here Reg, great work. Keep it up.

    Idiot.

  222. “an obsolete constitution written before the age of mass transportation other than ships, before California or Florida were even states, when the abolition of slavery was unthinkable, and before the age of mass communications, before the first letter with a stamp was mailed with the head of Queen Victoria on it.”

    Like calculus, morality and other obsolete stuff.

  223. @Jonathan Mason
    @epebble

    Yes, but there have always been these kind of arguments.

    For example for years Amazon.com claimed that they could not charge sales tax, because it was different in every country and it was just too damn hard for them to figure it out.

    Then when they HAD to charge sales tax, they managed to figure it out. Thank goodness, because otherwise that would have been the end of Amazon.

    The US is hamstrung in any attempts to modernize, because it is tied to an obsolete constitution written before the age of mass transportation other than ships, before California or Florida were even states, when the abolition of slavery was unthinkable, and before the age of mass communications, before the first letter with a stamp was mailed with the head of Queen Victoria on it.

    This constitution can only become more and more obsolete as a blueprint on how to govern a continental nation, but the only way to amend it is as laid down in the obsolete constitution and it is practically impossible to do.

    In contrast the French Constitution has been replaced 4 times and the current constitution of 1958 has been amended 24 times.

    Meanwhile in the US the most recent Constitutional Amendment, the XXVIIth, took 202 years to get ratified! And there have only been 4 Amendments since 1958, most of which were concerned with trivial stuff like appointing a vice-president, that did not affect most people's lives at all, other than the lowering of the voting age to 18.

    One of the French amendments was the introduction of the election of the President by universal suffrage (not by electoral college members appointed by states), which would be a good one for the US to adopt.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_amendments_under_the_French_Fifth_Republic#All_amendments

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

    True but not true. The French have been a fount of bad political ideas, from the Revolution to Vichy to Foucault’s post-pederasty… I mean, post modernism.

    The British learned from both the American and French mistakes, and perfected parliamentary democracy, which is why every democracy in the world (including France) follows their model, not the US.

    Direct election of the President would be a step backwards in the current system.

    The British solved the “problem” of the Electoral College by making it into the legislative body. America tried to have an elected king, the product of an Electoral College that did that and nothing else, then had the day to day legislation handled by a popularly elected Congress. The Brits kept the monarchy to handle ceremonial functions; France, Germany, Israel simply elect a President.

  224. @Jack Armstrong
    OFF TOPIC— Sorry NYC, Minneapolis “Metro” is still the leading iSteve-content generator IN THE WORLD!

    Mosque bomber now identifies as a woman,
    says right-wing blogs fueled 'inner conflict' leading up to attack
    Says confusion, right-wing posts fed "inner conflict."

    By Andy Mannix, StarTribune AUGUST 23, 2021 — 5:00PM

    The militia leader who's facing life in prison for master­minding the bombing of a Minnesota mosque now identifies as a woman, according to court documents.

    Emily Claire Hari — previously known as Michael Hari — is asking a judge to legally acknowledge her transgender identity. Hari, 50, says a combination of gender dysphoria and right-wing misinformation fueled her "inner conflict" during the time that she was convicted of bombing Dar Al-Farooq Islamic Center in Bloomington.

    "She strongly desired making a full transition but knew she would be ostracized from everyone and everything she knew," Hari's defense attorney, Shannon Elkins, wrote in court documents. "Thus, as she formed a ragtag group of freedom fighters or militia men and spoke of missions to Cuba and Venezuela, Ms. Hari secretly looked up 'sex change,' 'transgender surgery,' and 'post-op transgender' on the Internet. As she purchased military fatigues for their 'missions' she also purchased dresses and female clothing for a planned trip to Bangkok, Thailand, for male-to-female surgery. She was living a double life."

    Elkins cites these as factors in asking U.S. District Judge Donovan Frank to give Hari no more than a 30-year prison sentence — the mandatory minimum for Hari's conviction — and not the life term sought by prosecutors. She has also asked for an amended prison placement based on her transgender identity, but the details of the request are under seal. Elkins could not be reached for comment.

    In December, a jury found Hari, of Clarence, Ill., guilty on civil rights and hate crimes charges related to bombing the mosque. Throughout the 2 ½-week trial in St. Paul, prosecutors for Minnesota's U.S. Attorney's Office described Hari as a hater of Islam and immigrants who viewed both as threats to American culture. After the 2016 election of Donald Trump, Hari bid on a federal government contract to build the U.S.-Mexico border wall, which Hari viewed as a symbol of protecting American values. Hari later graduated to violent action, manipulating uneducated and financially vulnerable men from Hari's rural community to help "harass the untouchables."

    The list of targets included the Dar Al-Farooq Islamic Center in Bloomington, which Hari told acolytes served as a training and recruiting ground for ISIS.
     


    Still, Elkins said, at the time of the attack, Hari was influenced by misinformation and conspiracies published by right-wing blogs like Breitbart, World Net Daily and Jihad Watch, and amplified by unnamed elected officials, according to court documents. "This degrading, anti-Muslim, and Islamophobic rhetoric and misinformation has spread throughout the United States over the past several years through social media and the internet," Elkins wrote.

    Elkins also asks the judge to consider Hari's advanced age as reason for a 30-year sentence to be sufficient.

    "Emily Hari is more than a one-note caricature," said Elkins. "She is a complex human being who has been convicted by a jury of her peers. She will stand before this Court for sentencing, facing life in prison. She asks the Court to consider a sentence that is just and proportionate rather than vindictive or symbolic."

    Hari's sentencing is scheduled for Sept. 13.
     

    Replies: @ATBOTL, @Reg Cæsar, @Bill Jones

    And if she self identified as a Jewish woman, she could keep the moustache.

  225. @Achmed E. Newman
    @anon

    I've thought for 35 seconds already. I'm gettin' nuthin'. Do you have a point to make?

    Replies: @iDeplorable, @anon

    I’ve thought for 35 seconds already. I’m gettin’ nuthin’.

    Hmm…does that surprise you? I mean, is it unusual?

    Do you have a point to make?

    Yep. Already did. Guess you missed it.

  226. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jonathan Mason


    It is interesting that whites in particular in the United States are reluctant to reproduce. Could this have something to do with ...
     
    Feminism. Period. We've had over 1/2 a century of it.

    How can US whites be taught these reproductive skills?
     
    Overturn Feminism. Period.

    Of course, most American men are too pussified to even say or write what I just wrote.

    Replies: @anon

    Overturn Feminism. Period.

    What’s your plan? I mean, something beyond rants in comment boxes…

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @anon

    First of all, you don't make a plan until you understand the root cause of the problem. Jonathan Mason wondered, and I told him. In my own life, I make sure to not take part in any feminist BS, from my family and others (the "others" is really not a problem, as I'm not inclined to work with or be friends with any of these types).

    Beyond that, I'm not in a position to do much right now beyond avoiding Feminism in my own life and warning others.

    Replies: @anon

    , @Art Deco
    @anon

    1. Eliminate the entire body of anti-discrimination law applicable to private parties. Leave this residue: certain sorts of conduct in workplaces similar to one of a menu of common crimes can be defined as tortious with the offending employee held liable (and the employer held liable on occasion).

    2. Strip courts of jurisdiction over civil service examinations at all levels. Require an end to mulligans for Democratic Party clients in public employment. Everyone faces the same standards and screens in recruitment and promotion, with the primary means of assessment being the paper-and-pencil competitive examination.

    3. End no fault divorce. Establish in matrimonial and family law a default setting that the defendant in a divorce case receive primary custody or joint custody absent a finding that the children would have been candidates for a foster care placement had the parents not separated.

    4. Establish women's auxilliaries in all protective service bureaucracies. Either end women's employment in the main body of such agencies or require they meet all of the performance metrics the men are required to meet. (Recall that a man who is 5' 7" tall is at the 25th percentile of the male population but at the 90th percentile of the female population).

    5. Outlaw abortion. Criminally prosecute the perverted gynecologists who perform abortions, prosecute clinic staff, prosecute customers.

    6. Institute semi-annual state regents examinations for all primary and secondary students. Don't directly regulate schools in regard to their curricula and related practices, but make it a requirement that no student can take level x+1 of a given series until he's passed level x. End state-financed schooling at age 18. In lieu of a diploma, grant each youth a book of certificates indicating which examination series he attempted and how far he advanced.

    7. Condition admission to public tertiary institutions on one's performance on secondary regents' examinations.

    8. Require private tertiary institutions to publish stock and flow data on their matriculants and graduates, broken down by coarse demographic categories. Require these statements, like financial statements, receive the attestation of licensed professional.

    9. Remove any and all legal impediments to the use by private employers of written examinations and other performance tests to recruit and advance employees.

    10. Rejigger the degree architecture in tertiary schooling, shortening time spent. This can be accomplished by eliminating distribution requirements and granting students a degree based on a certain number of credits in a discrete subject. Forty-eight credits earned over two academic years or one calendar year would be a common credential.

    11. Close all extant teachers colleges, public and private. Newly reconstituted teachers colleges would be debarred from hiring people employed in the closed colleges unless such people were competent tests-and-measurements psychologists. The new teachers colleges would train teachers and do nothing else. They would offer certificates which would consist of a menu of 'methods' courses, an unpaid internship of up to a year, and a stipended apprenticeship of a year. Admission to a teacher's college would require passing a baccalaureate examination at the least. Positing that eight sorts of certificate would be offered, there would be additional admissions requirements per the sort of certificate you sought, such as completion of a certain minimum in subject training.

    12. Dismantle social work as an independent profession, close social work programs, and dissolve licensing boards. Recruit child protective employees from the ranks of sheriff's deputies, junior grade psychologists, and nurses and send them for cross training certificates. Train junior grade mental heath tradesmen in schools of professional psychology. Train public sector managers in schools of administration which may have specialized courses of study for bureaucracies of different sorts. Train the liaison staff in hospitals and nursing homes on the job and get rid of the MSWx.

    13. Dismantle schools of library administration. Have the Library of Congress, the National Archives, and the Smithsonian develop template certificate programs for different sorts of clerks and technicians employed in such institutions. Have state libraries, state museums, state archives, and prominent institutions generally establish diploma programs which would combine classroom instruction with manual training. You'd be in residence for a calendar year and could choose from a menu of programs to fill your time. Some diploma programs would require for admission a quantum of credits earned in an academic or vocational subject at the tertiary institution (say, 42 credits in English literature; 42 credits in geology), some would not.

    14. Expel men from nursing schools and have male nurses return to school for certification as RPAs. Expel women from seminaries, and, for the most part, from divinity schools.

    15. Limit, on consumer protection grounds, the degree programs which may be offered in tertiary schools to those in a glossary enacted by the state legislature. In particular, the academic arts and sciences should be limited to foreign languages and a menu of six other subjects in the humanities, a menu of ten subjects in social research; psychology; mathematics; computer science; and a menu of six subjects in the natural sciences. Subdepartmental concentrations would be permissible if they're in the glossary, as would subdepartmental majors if the course list were long enough. Victimology would be eliminated.

    16. Grant parents who homeschool or use tuition-funded private schools a partial rebate on their school taxes. The rebate would be calculated thus: (r x t) / c, where 'c' is the number of children between their 5th and 18th birthday of which you have custody, 't' is your school tax bill, and r is determined by computing the ratio of school tax collections to that portion of the district budget which satisfies variable costs. If that ratio equals or exceeds 1, the value of 'r' is 1. If it is less than 1, the value of r is whatever that ratio is.

    17. Calculate personal income tax liability thus (1) calculate the result of this formula: (o.4 x T) - P - (d x c) where 'T' is your taxable income, 'P' is what you've paid in payroll levies, 'd' is the dimensions of your family (yourself, your spouse, juvenile dependents &c), and 'c' is the dollar value of a general credit. The dollar value is defined by law as a certain % of nominal personal income per capita so changes each year. If the result of the formula is a positive number, that's your liability. If it's a negative number, you're due a rebate. That may be the rebate you're due, but you have to compare it to the caps applicable to your household. If no one who signs the tax return qualifies as elderly or disabled, the caps applicable are a function of your earned income; if all parties signing are elderly or disabled, the caps are a function of nominal personal income per capita in your region; if one signatory is elderly or disabled and one is not, the cap is a function of the mean of these two values.

    18. Eliminate open-ended cash doles for people who are not elderly, disabled, veterans, or candidates for disaster relief. Term-limited benefits would consist of unemployment compensation, workmen's compensation, and s/t disability benefits.

    19. Eliminate public subsidies for mundane expenditures e.g. groceries, cafeteria meals, rent, utility bills, &c. Sell off all public housing. In areas with rent control, have rents indexed to nominal personal income per capita in a commuter belt and provide for piecemeal abolition by exempting new construction, exempting leases signed after a certain date, and providing for the removal of controls on a given apartment by allowing landlords to purchase a tenant's right to a controlled rent by paying him a negotiated lump sum.

    20. Replace minimum wage laws with 'minimum cash take-home pay' which would apply to hourly and to salaried employees. The minimum would be specific to a given state or territory and be equal to 10% of nominal employee compensation per worker in the state or territory in question, and be adjusted each year.

    21. Replace Medicaid, Medicare, and employer-paid medical insurance with a revised system: Have state legislatures compose a template medical insurance contract and a template l/t care insurance contract. Randomly assign all individuals in the state to a set of l/t care cohorts and all households in the state to medical insurance cohorts. Assign all the cohorts to a berth in a three-year contract cycle, so that every year state authorities are letting out contracts to insure 1/3 of the population for three years. Allow individual carriers to place bids on some but not all of the cohorts due for renewal in a given year. Premiums would be collected from all households by a personal income levy which functions as an income tax before a certain household income level and a capitation above that level. Those bidding on a cohort would receive the premiums in return for fulfilling the contract provided they won the contract. The bids would be sealed and be in the form of the schedule deductibles the company would insist on to fulfill the contract (in re medical insurance $x for a one-person household, $2x for a two person household, $3x for a larger household; in re l/t care, all a person's attachable assets, clawbacks included, up to a certain $ value).

    22. Limit the award of disability benefits for psychological problems to (1) people with severe intellectual deficits, (2) dements, and (3) schizophrenics. Remove 'mental health' care from the menu of things covered by medical insurance plans, as you do cosmetic surgery, cosmetic dentistry, experimental procedures, &c (with an exception for schizophrenia and some odds-and-ends).

    23. Prohibit by law all sex-reassignment procedures, surgical, endocrine, what have you. Be harsh with every party implicated in these horrors.

    24. Treat divorce cases as civil disputes, with only the child-support and child custody decisions subcontracted to family court.

    25. Limit the award of alimony to defendants in divorce cases unless the plaintiff can establish gross misconduct. Alimony would be term-limited according to a formula taking into account the liable party's income, the beneficiary's age, the length of the marriage, the time elapsing between the birth of the first child and the 10th birthday of the last child, &c.

    26. Be harsh with parties not in compliance with custody and visitation plans. As in jail the bitc*.

    27. Treat harshly in law people who make false accusations of criminal conduct, whether such accusations are made in criminal proceedings or matrimonial proceedings.

    28. Allow any school district wherein a critical mass of students of a particular subtype is to be found to institute by local option sex-segregated classrooms and sex-segregated schools.

    29. Allow any state network of tertiary institutions to have men-only and women-only campuses, providing none of the fare available at one or the other was unique to said institution.

    30. Allow any public institution to provide sports programs according to observable demand and to prohibit mixed-sex sports.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Intelligent Dasein

  227. This constitution can only become more and more obsolete as a blueprint on how to govern a continental nation, but the only way to amend it is as laid down in the obsolete constitution and it is practically impossible to do.

    In contrast the French Constitution has been replaced 4 times and the current constitution of 1958 has been amended 24 times.

    I, for one, would much sooner entrust my liberties to the hands of james Madison and John Adams than the likes of Nicolas Sarkozy and Emmanuel Macron. But maybe that’s just me.

  228. “Black man moves to Florida, blacks hit hardest.”

  229. @Barnard
    @Almost Missouri

    1. I don't believe HBCUs have a significant number of thrifty students, but yes.

    2. Of course not. It is blatant discrimination in favor of black students at HBCUs.

    3. The HBCUs are trying to stay open. Attendance and enrollment rates are dropping. Since they get the bottom tier of black college applicants, the only real way they can keep unqualified students enrolled is through a gimmick like this.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Thanks.

    On #2, I have the impression that all universities got some kind of “covid relief” money, so maybe the HBCUs just decided to apply that to their students’ outstanding balances. The article sort of vaguely implied that the HBCUs got extra money, but it wasn’t clear.

  230. @F. Galton
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Dave Ramsey's movement is on the road to accomplishing what you describe. He's hated by bankers and other money lenders for good reason; and he's the target of many smear campaigns and cheap shots by the corporate lending machine.

    Ramsey's a man of wisdom, charisma, and integrity - and one to watch because he could affect national politics at some point.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    I do have a fondness for Dave Ramsey.

  231. @anon
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Overturn Feminism. Period.

    What's your plan? I mean, something beyond rants in comment boxes...

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Art Deco

    First of all, you don’t make a plan until you understand the root cause of the problem. Jonathan Mason wondered, and I told him. In my own life, I make sure to not take part in any feminist BS, from my family and others (the “others” is really not a problem, as I’m not inclined to work with or be friends with any of these types).

    Beyond that, I’m not in a position to do much right now beyond avoiding Feminism in my own life and warning others.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Achmed E. Newman

    First of all, you don’t make a plan until you understand the root cause of the problem.

    "Fire on the wing" - do you take immediate action, or do you ponder "Hmm. I wonder what caused that?" while the structure fails?

    lol

    In my own life, I make sure to not take part in any feminist BS, from my family and others (the “others” is really not a problem, as I’m not inclined to work with or be friends with any of these types).

    Hmm. Seems legit. You must have a really small family / "others", though. Most people have to work, and that means interfacing with HR, and...there it is.

    Beyond that, I’m not in a position to do much right now beyond avoiding Feminism in my own life and warning others.

    You're missing the obvious. If you read Rollo's books, you'd know this. Be a Rational Male!

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  232. @iDeplorable
    @Achmed E. Newman


    I’ve thought for 35 seconds already. I’m gettin’ nuthin’. Do you have a point to make?
     
    35 seconds is enough time for you to make another 3-4 inane, stupid, off-topic, unfunny posts. You're not going to beat Buzz and Reg at the geriatric post-off contest if you take time to think.

    Post, post like the wind.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I still have no idea what the Anon guy was getting at. I’m not on here for guessing games. I’ve told a few women before that “I can’t read your mind”. So, here’s another one.

    You two get back to your Facebook needlepoint group and chime in here on the topic occasionally.

    • Replies: @iDeplorable
    @Achmed E. Newman


    I still have no idea what the Anon guy was getting at. I’m not on here for guessing games.
     
    We know. You're on here to fill up the comments with inane spam.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  233. @Jonathan Mason
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I did all this for years and it didn't seem to make a lot of difference to the economy oh, but it sure saved me a lot of money.

    The main thing you missed out is not using credit cards, or at least not using them to borrow money. Only use them as a convenience to purchase things like airline tickets and car rentals on vacation oh, and pay off the entire balance within 30 days.

    Also not buying cars or furniture on installment plans. And checking out local thrift stores for clothing before buying retail.

    The one day a week sabbatical idea is an interesting one, but it will not save you much on overall expenditure other than cost of gasoline used, or not eating at Subway or Starbucks while you are at the shopping mall, because the expenditure will simply be shifted to other days of the week.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    The main thing you missed out is not using credit cards,

    I didn’t miss that, I mentioned it. Can you not read?

    Also not buying cars or furniture on installment plans.

    I also mentioned that. Can you not read?

    The one day a week sabbatical idea is an interesting one, but it will not save you much on overall expenditure…because the expenditure will simply be shifted to other days of the week.

    I explicitly stated that the money not spent on purchases should be used to pay down debt, so it would not be spent on consumption other days of the week. Can you not read?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Intelligent Dasein


    I explicitly stated that the money not spent on purchases should be used to pay down debt, so it would not be spent on consumption other days of the week. Can you not read?
     
    Yeah, but if you don't buy your kid new shoes for school on Saturday, or don't dry clothes on Sunday, then you will still have to spend the same money and use the same electricity on Monday. Do strictly observant Jews really reduce debt because they stay in bed on the Sabbath?

    Or are you going to turn off the air conditioning, take cold showers, and do a 24 hour fast on Saturdays so that you can pay down debt? (Actually not a bad idea if you can sell the whole family on the idea and put up with them whining when they can't sleep.)
  234. @Achmed E. Newman
    @iDeplorable

    I still have no idea what the Anon guy was getting at. I'm not on here for guessing games. I've told a few women before that "I can't read your mind". So, here's another one.

    You two get back to your Facebook needlepoint group and chime in here on the topic occasionally.

    Replies: @iDeplorable

    I still have no idea what the Anon guy was getting at. I’m not on here for guessing games.

    We know. You’re on here to fill up the comments with inane spam.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @iDeplorable

    You don't have to read. We've been through this before. Why waste your time?

    Replies: @iDeplorable

  235. @anon
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Overturn Feminism. Period.

    What's your plan? I mean, something beyond rants in comment boxes...

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Art Deco

    1. Eliminate the entire body of anti-discrimination law applicable to private parties. Leave this residue: certain sorts of conduct in workplaces similar to one of a menu of common crimes can be defined as tortious with the offending employee held liable (and the employer held liable on occasion).

    2. Strip courts of jurisdiction over civil service examinations at all levels. Require an end to mulligans for Democratic Party clients in public employment. Everyone faces the same standards and screens in recruitment and promotion, with the primary means of assessment being the paper-and-pencil competitive examination.

    3. End no fault divorce. Establish in matrimonial and family law a default setting that the defendant in a divorce case receive primary custody or joint custody absent a finding that the children would have been candidates for a foster care placement had the parents not separated.

    4. Establish women’s auxilliaries in all protective service bureaucracies. Either end women’s employment in the main body of such agencies or require they meet all of the performance metrics the men are required to meet. (Recall that a man who is 5′ 7″ tall is at the 25th percentile of the male population but at the 90th percentile of the female population).

    5. Outlaw abortion. Criminally prosecute the perverted gynecologists who perform abortions, prosecute clinic staff, prosecute customers.

    6. Institute semi-annual state regents examinations for all primary and secondary students. Don’t directly regulate schools in regard to their curricula and related practices, but make it a requirement that no student can take level x+1 of a given series until he’s passed level x. End state-financed schooling at age 18. In lieu of a diploma, grant each youth a book of certificates indicating which examination series he attempted and how far he advanced.

    7. Condition admission to public tertiary institutions on one’s performance on secondary regents’ examinations.

    8. Require private tertiary institutions to publish stock and flow data on their matriculants and graduates, broken down by coarse demographic categories. Require these statements, like financial statements, receive the attestation of licensed professional.

    9. Remove any and all legal impediments to the use by private employers of written examinations and other performance tests to recruit and advance employees.

    10. Rejigger the degree architecture in tertiary schooling, shortening time spent. This can be accomplished by eliminating distribution requirements and granting students a degree based on a certain number of credits in a discrete subject. Forty-eight credits earned over two academic years or one calendar year would be a common credential.

    11. Close all extant teachers colleges, public and private. Newly reconstituted teachers colleges would be debarred from hiring people employed in the closed colleges unless such people were competent tests-and-measurements psychologists. The new teachers colleges would train teachers and do nothing else. They would offer certificates which would consist of a menu of ‘methods’ courses, an unpaid internship of up to a year, and a stipended apprenticeship of a year. Admission to a teacher’s college would require passing a baccalaureate examination at the least. Positing that eight sorts of certificate would be offered, there would be additional admissions requirements per the sort of certificate you sought, such as completion of a certain minimum in subject training.

    12. Dismantle social work as an independent profession, close social work programs, and dissolve licensing boards. Recruit child protective employees from the ranks of sheriff’s deputies, junior grade psychologists, and nurses and send them for cross training certificates. Train junior grade mental heath tradesmen in schools of professional psychology. Train public sector managers in schools of administration which may have specialized courses of study for bureaucracies of different sorts. Train the liaison staff in hospitals and nursing homes on the job and get rid of the MSWx.

    13. Dismantle schools of library administration. Have the Library of Congress, the National Archives, and the Smithsonian develop template certificate programs for different sorts of clerks and technicians employed in such institutions. Have state libraries, state museums, state archives, and prominent institutions generally establish diploma programs which would combine classroom instruction with manual training. You’d be in residence for a calendar year and could choose from a menu of programs to fill your time. Some diploma programs would require for admission a quantum of credits earned in an academic or vocational subject at the tertiary institution (say, 42 credits in English literature; 42 credits in geology), some would not.

    14. Expel men from nursing schools and have male nurses return to school for certification as RPAs. Expel women from seminaries, and, for the most part, from divinity schools.

    15. Limit, on consumer protection grounds, the degree programs which may be offered in tertiary schools to those in a glossary enacted by the state legislature. In particular, the academic arts and sciences should be limited to foreign languages and a menu of six other subjects in the humanities, a menu of ten subjects in social research; psychology; mathematics; computer science; and a menu of six subjects in the natural sciences. Subdepartmental concentrations would be permissible if they’re in the glossary, as would subdepartmental majors if the course list were long enough. Victimology would be eliminated.

    16. Grant parents who homeschool or use tuition-funded private schools a partial rebate on their school taxes. The rebate would be calculated thus: (r x t) / c, where ‘c’ is the number of children between their 5th and 18th birthday of which you have custody, ‘t’ is your school tax bill, and r is determined by computing the ratio of school tax collections to that portion of the district budget which satisfies variable costs. If that ratio equals or exceeds 1, the value of ‘r’ is 1. If it is less than 1, the value of r is whatever that ratio is.

    17. Calculate personal income tax liability thus (1) calculate the result of this formula: (o.4 x T) – P – (d x c) where ‘T’ is your taxable income, ‘P’ is what you’ve paid in payroll levies, ‘d’ is the dimensions of your family (yourself, your spouse, juvenile dependents &c), and ‘c’ is the dollar value of a general credit. The dollar value is defined by law as a certain % of nominal personal income per capita so changes each year. If the result of the formula is a positive number, that’s your liability. If it’s a negative number, you’re due a rebate. That may be the rebate you’re due, but you have to compare it to the caps applicable to your household. If no one who signs the tax return qualifies as elderly or disabled, the caps applicable are a function of your earned income; if all parties signing are elderly or disabled, the caps are a function of nominal personal income per capita in your region; if one signatory is elderly or disabled and one is not, the cap is a function of the mean of these two values.

    18. Eliminate open-ended cash doles for people who are not elderly, disabled, veterans, or candidates for disaster relief. Term-limited benefits would consist of unemployment compensation, workmen’s compensation, and s/t disability benefits.

    19. Eliminate public subsidies for mundane expenditures e.g. groceries, cafeteria meals, rent, utility bills, &c. Sell off all public housing. In areas with rent control, have rents indexed to nominal personal income per capita in a commuter belt and provide for piecemeal abolition by exempting new construction, exempting leases signed after a certain date, and providing for the removal of controls on a given apartment by allowing landlords to purchase a tenant’s right to a controlled rent by paying him a negotiated lump sum.

    20. Replace minimum wage laws with ‘minimum cash take-home pay’ which would apply to hourly and to salaried employees. The minimum would be specific to a given state or territory and be equal to 10% of nominal employee compensation per worker in the state or territory in question, and be adjusted each year.

    21. Replace Medicaid, Medicare, and employer-paid medical insurance with a revised system: Have state legislatures compose a template medical insurance contract and a template l/t care insurance contract. Randomly assign all individuals in the state to a set of l/t care cohorts and all households in the state to medical insurance cohorts. Assign all the cohorts to a berth in a three-year contract cycle, so that every year state authorities are letting out contracts to insure 1/3 of the population for three years. Allow individual carriers to place bids on some but not all of the cohorts due for renewal in a given year. Premiums would be collected from all households by a personal income levy which functions as an income tax before a certain household income level and a capitation above that level. Those bidding on a cohort would receive the premiums in return for fulfilling the contract provided they won the contract. The bids would be sealed and be in the form of the schedule deductibles the company would insist on to fulfill the contract (in re medical insurance \$x for a one-person household, \$2x for a two person household, \$3x for a larger household; in re l/t care, all a person’s attachable assets, clawbacks included, up to a certain \$ value).

    22. Limit the award of disability benefits for psychological problems to (1) people with severe intellectual deficits, (2) dements, and (3) schizophrenics. Remove ‘mental health’ care from the menu of things covered by medical insurance plans, as you do cosmetic surgery, cosmetic dentistry, experimental procedures, &c (with an exception for schizophrenia and some odds-and-ends).

    23. Prohibit by law all sex-reassignment procedures, surgical, endocrine, what have you. Be harsh with every party implicated in these horrors.

    24. Treat divorce cases as civil disputes, with only the child-support and child custody decisions subcontracted to family court.

    25. Limit the award of alimony to defendants in divorce cases unless the plaintiff can establish gross misconduct. Alimony would be term-limited according to a formula taking into account the liable party’s income, the beneficiary’s age, the length of the marriage, the time elapsing between the birth of the first child and the 10th birthday of the last child, &c.

    26. Be harsh with parties not in compliance with custody and visitation plans. As in jail the bitc*.

    27. Treat harshly in law people who make false accusations of criminal conduct, whether such accusations are made in criminal proceedings or matrimonial proceedings.

    28. Allow any school district wherein a critical mass of students of a particular subtype is to be found to institute by local option sex-segregated classrooms and sex-segregated schools.

    29. Allow any state network of tertiary institutions to have men-only and women-only campuses, providing none of the fare available at one or the other was unique to said institution.

    30. Allow any public institution to provide sports programs according to observable demand and to prohibit mixed-sex sports.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Art Deco

    31. End homosexual pseudogamy

    32. Limit adoption to youths under 14. Insist adoptive parents be married couples.

    33. End the allocation of foster children to aught but married couples and family members.

    Replies: @anon, @JMcG

    , @Intelligent Dasein
    @Art Deco

    I like where you're going with this. You and I are agreed on the fundamentals. Well done.

  236. @Art Deco
    @anon

    1. Eliminate the entire body of anti-discrimination law applicable to private parties. Leave this residue: certain sorts of conduct in workplaces similar to one of a menu of common crimes can be defined as tortious with the offending employee held liable (and the employer held liable on occasion).

    2. Strip courts of jurisdiction over civil service examinations at all levels. Require an end to mulligans for Democratic Party clients in public employment. Everyone faces the same standards and screens in recruitment and promotion, with the primary means of assessment being the paper-and-pencil competitive examination.

    3. End no fault divorce. Establish in matrimonial and family law a default setting that the defendant in a divorce case receive primary custody or joint custody absent a finding that the children would have been candidates for a foster care placement had the parents not separated.

    4. Establish women's auxilliaries in all protective service bureaucracies. Either end women's employment in the main body of such agencies or require they meet all of the performance metrics the men are required to meet. (Recall that a man who is 5' 7" tall is at the 25th percentile of the male population but at the 90th percentile of the female population).

    5. Outlaw abortion. Criminally prosecute the perverted gynecologists who perform abortions, prosecute clinic staff, prosecute customers.

    6. Institute semi-annual state regents examinations for all primary and secondary students. Don't directly regulate schools in regard to their curricula and related practices, but make it a requirement that no student can take level x+1 of a given series until he's passed level x. End state-financed schooling at age 18. In lieu of a diploma, grant each youth a book of certificates indicating which examination series he attempted and how far he advanced.

    7. Condition admission to public tertiary institutions on one's performance on secondary regents' examinations.

    8. Require private tertiary institutions to publish stock and flow data on their matriculants and graduates, broken down by coarse demographic categories. Require these statements, like financial statements, receive the attestation of licensed professional.

    9. Remove any and all legal impediments to the use by private employers of written examinations and other performance tests to recruit and advance employees.

    10. Rejigger the degree architecture in tertiary schooling, shortening time spent. This can be accomplished by eliminating distribution requirements and granting students a degree based on a certain number of credits in a discrete subject. Forty-eight credits earned over two academic years or one calendar year would be a common credential.

    11. Close all extant teachers colleges, public and private. Newly reconstituted teachers colleges would be debarred from hiring people employed in the closed colleges unless such people were competent tests-and-measurements psychologists. The new teachers colleges would train teachers and do nothing else. They would offer certificates which would consist of a menu of 'methods' courses, an unpaid internship of up to a year, and a stipended apprenticeship of a year. Admission to a teacher's college would require passing a baccalaureate examination at the least. Positing that eight sorts of certificate would be offered, there would be additional admissions requirements per the sort of certificate you sought, such as completion of a certain minimum in subject training.

    12. Dismantle social work as an independent profession, close social work programs, and dissolve licensing boards. Recruit child protective employees from the ranks of sheriff's deputies, junior grade psychologists, and nurses and send them for cross training certificates. Train junior grade mental heath tradesmen in schools of professional psychology. Train public sector managers in schools of administration which may have specialized courses of study for bureaucracies of different sorts. Train the liaison staff in hospitals and nursing homes on the job and get rid of the MSWx.

    13. Dismantle schools of library administration. Have the Library of Congress, the National Archives, and the Smithsonian develop template certificate programs for different sorts of clerks and technicians employed in such institutions. Have state libraries, state museums, state archives, and prominent institutions generally establish diploma programs which would combine classroom instruction with manual training. You'd be in residence for a calendar year and could choose from a menu of programs to fill your time. Some diploma programs would require for admission a quantum of credits earned in an academic or vocational subject at the tertiary institution (say, 42 credits in English literature; 42 credits in geology), some would not.

    14. Expel men from nursing schools and have male nurses return to school for certification as RPAs. Expel women from seminaries, and, for the most part, from divinity schools.

    15. Limit, on consumer protection grounds, the degree programs which may be offered in tertiary schools to those in a glossary enacted by the state legislature. In particular, the academic arts and sciences should be limited to foreign languages and a menu of six other subjects in the humanities, a menu of ten subjects in social research; psychology; mathematics; computer science; and a menu of six subjects in the natural sciences. Subdepartmental concentrations would be permissible if they're in the glossary, as would subdepartmental majors if the course list were long enough. Victimology would be eliminated.

    16. Grant parents who homeschool or use tuition-funded private schools a partial rebate on their school taxes. The rebate would be calculated thus: (r x t) / c, where 'c' is the number of children between their 5th and 18th birthday of which you have custody, 't' is your school tax bill, and r is determined by computing the ratio of school tax collections to that portion of the district budget which satisfies variable costs. If that ratio equals or exceeds 1, the value of 'r' is 1. If it is less than 1, the value of r is whatever that ratio is.

    17. Calculate personal income tax liability thus (1) calculate the result of this formula: (o.4 x T) - P - (d x c) where 'T' is your taxable income, 'P' is what you've paid in payroll levies, 'd' is the dimensions of your family (yourself, your spouse, juvenile dependents &c), and 'c' is the dollar value of a general credit. The dollar value is defined by law as a certain % of nominal personal income per capita so changes each year. If the result of the formula is a positive number, that's your liability. If it's a negative number, you're due a rebate. That may be the rebate you're due, but you have to compare it to the caps applicable to your household. If no one who signs the tax return qualifies as elderly or disabled, the caps applicable are a function of your earned income; if all parties signing are elderly or disabled, the caps are a function of nominal personal income per capita in your region; if one signatory is elderly or disabled and one is not, the cap is a function of the mean of these two values.

    18. Eliminate open-ended cash doles for people who are not elderly, disabled, veterans, or candidates for disaster relief. Term-limited benefits would consist of unemployment compensation, workmen's compensation, and s/t disability benefits.

    19. Eliminate public subsidies for mundane expenditures e.g. groceries, cafeteria meals, rent, utility bills, &c. Sell off all public housing. In areas with rent control, have rents indexed to nominal personal income per capita in a commuter belt and provide for piecemeal abolition by exempting new construction, exempting leases signed after a certain date, and providing for the removal of controls on a given apartment by allowing landlords to purchase a tenant's right to a controlled rent by paying him a negotiated lump sum.

    20. Replace minimum wage laws with 'minimum cash take-home pay' which would apply to hourly and to salaried employees. The minimum would be specific to a given state or territory and be equal to 10% of nominal employee compensation per worker in the state or territory in question, and be adjusted each year.

    21. Replace Medicaid, Medicare, and employer-paid medical insurance with a revised system: Have state legislatures compose a template medical insurance contract and a template l/t care insurance contract. Randomly assign all individuals in the state to a set of l/t care cohorts and all households in the state to medical insurance cohorts. Assign all the cohorts to a berth in a three-year contract cycle, so that every year state authorities are letting out contracts to insure 1/3 of the population for three years. Allow individual carriers to place bids on some but not all of the cohorts due for renewal in a given year. Premiums would be collected from all households by a personal income levy which functions as an income tax before a certain household income level and a capitation above that level. Those bidding on a cohort would receive the premiums in return for fulfilling the contract provided they won the contract. The bids would be sealed and be in the form of the schedule deductibles the company would insist on to fulfill the contract (in re medical insurance $x for a one-person household, $2x for a two person household, $3x for a larger household; in re l/t care, all a person's attachable assets, clawbacks included, up to a certain $ value).

    22. Limit the award of disability benefits for psychological problems to (1) people with severe intellectual deficits, (2) dements, and (3) schizophrenics. Remove 'mental health' care from the menu of things covered by medical insurance plans, as you do cosmetic surgery, cosmetic dentistry, experimental procedures, &c (with an exception for schizophrenia and some odds-and-ends).

    23. Prohibit by law all sex-reassignment procedures, surgical, endocrine, what have you. Be harsh with every party implicated in these horrors.

    24. Treat divorce cases as civil disputes, with only the child-support and child custody decisions subcontracted to family court.

    25. Limit the award of alimony to defendants in divorce cases unless the plaintiff can establish gross misconduct. Alimony would be term-limited according to a formula taking into account the liable party's income, the beneficiary's age, the length of the marriage, the time elapsing between the birth of the first child and the 10th birthday of the last child, &c.

    26. Be harsh with parties not in compliance with custody and visitation plans. As in jail the bitc*.

    27. Treat harshly in law people who make false accusations of criminal conduct, whether such accusations are made in criminal proceedings or matrimonial proceedings.

    28. Allow any school district wherein a critical mass of students of a particular subtype is to be found to institute by local option sex-segregated classrooms and sex-segregated schools.

    29. Allow any state network of tertiary institutions to have men-only and women-only campuses, providing none of the fare available at one or the other was unique to said institution.

    30. Allow any public institution to provide sports programs according to observable demand and to prohibit mixed-sex sports.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Intelligent Dasein

    31. End homosexual pseudogamy

    32. Limit adoption to youths under 14. Insist adoptive parents be married couples.

    33. End the allocation of foster children to aught but married couples and family members.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Art Deco

    34. And a free pony for everyone! Not just an ordinary pony, a unicorn pony!

    lol

    smh

    lol

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @JMcG
    @Art Deco

    That, sir, is quite a manifesto.

  237. @Art Deco
    @Art Deco

    31. End homosexual pseudogamy

    32. Limit adoption to youths under 14. Insist adoptive parents be married couples.

    33. End the allocation of foster children to aught but married couples and family members.

    Replies: @anon, @JMcG

    34. And a free pony for everyone! Not just an ordinary pony, a unicorn pony!

    lol

    smh

    lol

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @anon

    You didn't want an answer, why you ask for one?

  238. anon[416] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    @anon

    First of all, you don't make a plan until you understand the root cause of the problem. Jonathan Mason wondered, and I told him. In my own life, I make sure to not take part in any feminist BS, from my family and others (the "others" is really not a problem, as I'm not inclined to work with or be friends with any of these types).

    Beyond that, I'm not in a position to do much right now beyond avoiding Feminism in my own life and warning others.

    Replies: @anon

    First of all, you don’t make a plan until you understand the root cause of the problem.

    “Fire on the wing” – do you take immediate action, or do you ponder “Hmm. I wonder what caused that?” while the structure fails?

    lol

    In my own life, I make sure to not take part in any feminist BS, from my family and others (the “others” is really not a problem, as I’m not inclined to work with or be friends with any of these types).

    Hmm. Seems legit. You must have a really small family / “others”, though. Most people have to work, and that means interfacing with HR, and…there it is.

    Beyond that, I’m not in a position to do much right now beyond avoiding Feminism in my own life and warning others.

    You’re missing the obvious. If you read Rollo’s books, you’d know this. Be a Rational Male!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @anon

    Fire on the wing? You've got memory items, and you've got an emergency checklist. 60 years of societal destruction? Better first know the root of the problem, not just the symptoms. Your analogy is irrational and fails big time.

    I am lucky to be in a Conservative family besides one, who at least never behaved as a feminist because that wouldn't have worked out. You are right about HR, but I just delete their emails and don't participate in the BS. You don't have to behave like a pussy and go along with the crap if you are in a good position. If you are a peon, then maybe you must. Are you just some peon, then?

    Who's Rollo?

    Replies: @anon

  239. @Art Deco
    @Art Deco

    31. End homosexual pseudogamy

    32. Limit adoption to youths under 14. Insist adoptive parents be married couples.

    33. End the allocation of foster children to aught but married couples and family members.

    Replies: @anon, @JMcG

    That, sir, is quite a manifesto.

    • Agree: Yngvar
  240. @anon
    @Art Deco

    34. And a free pony for everyone! Not just an ordinary pony, a unicorn pony!

    lol

    smh

    lol

    Replies: @Art Deco

    You didn’t want an answer, why you ask for one?

  241. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Jonathan Mason


    The main thing you missed out is not using credit cards,
     
    I didn't miss that, I mentioned it. Can you not read?

    Also not buying cars or furniture on installment plans.
     
    I also mentioned that. Can you not read?

    The one day a week sabbatical idea is an interesting one, but it will not save you much on overall expenditure...because the expenditure will simply be shifted to other days of the week.
     
    I explicitly stated that the money not spent on purchases should be used to pay down debt, so it would not be spent on consumption other days of the week. Can you not read?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    I explicitly stated that the money not spent on purchases should be used to pay down debt, so it would not be spent on consumption other days of the week. Can you not read?

    Yeah, but if you don’t buy your kid new shoes for school on Saturday, or don’t dry clothes on Sunday, then you will still have to spend the same money and use the same electricity on Monday. Do strictly observant Jews really reduce debt because they stay in bed on the Sabbath?

    Or are you going to turn off the air conditioning, take cold showers, and do a 24 hour fast on Saturdays so that you can pay down debt? (Actually not a bad idea if you can sell the whole family on the idea and put up with them whining when they can’t sleep.)

  242. @anon
    @Achmed E. Newman

    First of all, you don’t make a plan until you understand the root cause of the problem.

    "Fire on the wing" - do you take immediate action, or do you ponder "Hmm. I wonder what caused that?" while the structure fails?

    lol

    In my own life, I make sure to not take part in any feminist BS, from my family and others (the “others” is really not a problem, as I’m not inclined to work with or be friends with any of these types).

    Hmm. Seems legit. You must have a really small family / "others", though. Most people have to work, and that means interfacing with HR, and...there it is.

    Beyond that, I’m not in a position to do much right now beyond avoiding Feminism in my own life and warning others.

    You're missing the obvious. If you read Rollo's books, you'd know this. Be a Rational Male!

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Fire on the wing? You’ve got memory items, and you’ve got an emergency checklist. 60 years of societal destruction? Better first know the root of the problem, not just the symptoms. Your analogy is irrational and fails big time.

    I am lucky to be in a Conservative family besides one, who at least never behaved as a feminist because that wouldn’t have worked out. You are right about HR, but I just delete their emails and don’t participate in the BS. You don’t have to behave like a pussy and go along with the crap if you are in a good position. If you are a peon, then maybe you must. Are you just some peon, then?

    Who’s Rollo?

    • Replies: @anon
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Fire on the wing? You’ve got memory items, and you’ve got an emergency checklist.

    No, no, you have to know the root of the problem first before you can do anything. You said so! It must be true!

    60 years of societal destruction?

    That's just 2nd wave feminism. It grew out of 1st wave feminism from the 19th century. What do you know about 1st wave feminism? Ever heard of the suffragettes?

    Better first know the root of the problem, not just the symptoms.

    What is the root of the problem?

    Your analogy is irrational and fails big time.

    Dude, you're the one who insisted on study before action. Shouldn't a pilot review the heat flow equations and the metallurgy of the wings before doing anything about a fire on the wing?

    I am lucky to be in a Conservative family besides one, who at least never behaved as a feminist because that wouldn’t have worked out. You are right about HR, but I just delete their emails and don’t participate in the BS.

    You may not be interested in HR, but they can become interested in you.

    You don’t have to behave like a pussy and go along with the crap if you are in a good position.

    Like, oh, President of Harvard? That kind of good position? Larry Summers was totally bulletproof vs. feminism, right?

    lol

    If you are a peon, then maybe you must. Are you just some peon, then?

    Ever read Sun Tzu? Musashi?

    smh

    Who’s Rollo?

    lol.

    Someone who knows more than you do. Especially about feminism & the female imperative.

    smh

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  243. @iDeplorable
    @Achmed E. Newman


    I still have no idea what the Anon guy was getting at. I’m not on here for guessing games.
     
    We know. You're on here to fill up the comments with inane spam.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    You don’t have to read. We’ve been through this before. Why waste your time?

    • Replies: @iDeplorable
    @Achmed E. Newman


    You don’t have to read. We’ve been through this before. Why waste your time?
     
    Because you waste everyone's time.

    Even if you're on "commenters to ignore" we have to scroll past dozens of grayed-out Achnad Doucheman posts. Your hobby is filling the comments with inane, off-topic spam, my hobby is criticizing you for it. Behaving like a jabbering old woman is a bad look for someone who claims to be a man.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  244. anon[187] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    @anon

    Fire on the wing? You've got memory items, and you've got an emergency checklist. 60 years of societal destruction? Better first know the root of the problem, not just the symptoms. Your analogy is irrational and fails big time.

    I am lucky to be in a Conservative family besides one, who at least never behaved as a feminist because that wouldn't have worked out. You are right about HR, but I just delete their emails and don't participate in the BS. You don't have to behave like a pussy and go along with the crap if you are in a good position. If you are a peon, then maybe you must. Are you just some peon, then?

    Who's Rollo?

    Replies: @anon

    Fire on the wing? You’ve got memory items, and you’ve got an emergency checklist.

    No, no, you have to know the root of the problem first before you can do anything. You said so! It must be true!

    60 years of societal destruction?

    That’s just 2nd wave feminism. It grew out of 1st wave feminism from the 19th century. What do you know about 1st wave feminism? Ever heard of the suffragettes?

    Better first know the root of the problem, not just the symptoms.

    What is the root of the problem?

    Your analogy is irrational and fails big time.

    Dude, you’re the one who insisted on study before action. Shouldn’t a pilot review the heat flow equations and the metallurgy of the wings before doing anything about a fire on the wing?

    I am lucky to be in a Conservative family besides one, who at least never behaved as a feminist because that wouldn’t have worked out. You are right about HR, but I just delete their emails and don’t participate in the BS.

    You may not be interested in HR, but they can become interested in you.

    You don’t have to behave like a pussy and go along with the crap if you are in a good position.

    Like, oh, President of Harvard? That kind of good position? Larry Summers was totally bulletproof vs. feminism, right?

    lol

    If you are a peon, then maybe you must. Are you just some peon, then?

    Ever read Sun Tzu? Musashi?

    smh

    Who’s Rollo?

    lol.

    Someone who knows more than you do. Especially about feminism & the female imperative.

    smh

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @anon


    No, no, you have to know the root of the problem first before you can do anything. You said so! It must be true!
     
    I did NOT say this.

    lol

    I said your analogy between the two problems, one acute and one very long term, sucks. lol. If you are going to go around in circles you remind me of a cheap version of the commenter Corvinus, and I'll ignore you from here.

    lol.

    You don't even want to give me your reference, then? A last name or link would help greatly.

    lol

    (I just assume "lol" means .STOP. like in an old telegram. No idea who this smh is...)

    Replies: @anon

  245. @anon
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Fire on the wing? You’ve got memory items, and you’ve got an emergency checklist.

    No, no, you have to know the root of the problem first before you can do anything. You said so! It must be true!

    60 years of societal destruction?

    That's just 2nd wave feminism. It grew out of 1st wave feminism from the 19th century. What do you know about 1st wave feminism? Ever heard of the suffragettes?

    Better first know the root of the problem, not just the symptoms.

    What is the root of the problem?

    Your analogy is irrational and fails big time.

    Dude, you're the one who insisted on study before action. Shouldn't a pilot review the heat flow equations and the metallurgy of the wings before doing anything about a fire on the wing?

    I am lucky to be in a Conservative family besides one, who at least never behaved as a feminist because that wouldn’t have worked out. You are right about HR, but I just delete their emails and don’t participate in the BS.

    You may not be interested in HR, but they can become interested in you.

    You don’t have to behave like a pussy and go along with the crap if you are in a good position.

    Like, oh, President of Harvard? That kind of good position? Larry Summers was totally bulletproof vs. feminism, right?

    lol

    If you are a peon, then maybe you must. Are you just some peon, then?

    Ever read Sun Tzu? Musashi?

    smh

    Who’s Rollo?

    lol.

    Someone who knows more than you do. Especially about feminism & the female imperative.

    smh

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    No, no, you have to know the root of the problem first before you can do anything. You said so! It must be true!

    I did NOT say this.

    lol

    I said your analogy between the two problems, one acute and one very long term, sucks. lol. If you are going to go around in circles you remind me of a cheap version of the commenter Corvinus, and I’ll ignore you from here.

    lol.

    You don’t even want to give me your reference, then? A last name or link would help greatly.

    lol

    (I just assume “lol” means .STOP. like in an old telegram. No idea who this smh is…)

    • Replies: @anon
    @Achmed E. Newman


    No, no, you have to know the root of the problem first before you can do anything. You said so! It must be true!
     
    I did NOT say this.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/find-and-replace/#comment-4865992


    First of all, you don’t make a plan until you understand the root cause of the problem.
     
    You were saying? Every pilot needs a tablet with thermodynamic and metallurgy textbooks loaded in case of a fire on the wing, right? Gotta figure out the root cause of combustion and calculate all the stresses before anything else. Right?

    I'll put one cookie on a plate on the lower shelf for you: "Rational Male". Search it. The truth about feminism and women is out there...

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  246. @Art Deco
    @anon

    1. Eliminate the entire body of anti-discrimination law applicable to private parties. Leave this residue: certain sorts of conduct in workplaces similar to one of a menu of common crimes can be defined as tortious with the offending employee held liable (and the employer held liable on occasion).

    2. Strip courts of jurisdiction over civil service examinations at all levels. Require an end to mulligans for Democratic Party clients in public employment. Everyone faces the same standards and screens in recruitment and promotion, with the primary means of assessment being the paper-and-pencil competitive examination.

    3. End no fault divorce. Establish in matrimonial and family law a default setting that the defendant in a divorce case receive primary custody or joint custody absent a finding that the children would have been candidates for a foster care placement had the parents not separated.

    4. Establish women's auxilliaries in all protective service bureaucracies. Either end women's employment in the main body of such agencies or require they meet all of the performance metrics the men are required to meet. (Recall that a man who is 5' 7" tall is at the 25th percentile of the male population but at the 90th percentile of the female population).

    5. Outlaw abortion. Criminally prosecute the perverted gynecologists who perform abortions, prosecute clinic staff, prosecute customers.

    6. Institute semi-annual state regents examinations for all primary and secondary students. Don't directly regulate schools in regard to their curricula and related practices, but make it a requirement that no student can take level x+1 of a given series until he's passed level x. End state-financed schooling at age 18. In lieu of a diploma, grant each youth a book of certificates indicating which examination series he attempted and how far he advanced.

    7. Condition admission to public tertiary institutions on one's performance on secondary regents' examinations.

    8. Require private tertiary institutions to publish stock and flow data on their matriculants and graduates, broken down by coarse demographic categories. Require these statements, like financial statements, receive the attestation of licensed professional.

    9. Remove any and all legal impediments to the use by private employers of written examinations and other performance tests to recruit and advance employees.

    10. Rejigger the degree architecture in tertiary schooling, shortening time spent. This can be accomplished by eliminating distribution requirements and granting students a degree based on a certain number of credits in a discrete subject. Forty-eight credits earned over two academic years or one calendar year would be a common credential.

    11. Close all extant teachers colleges, public and private. Newly reconstituted teachers colleges would be debarred from hiring people employed in the closed colleges unless such people were competent tests-and-measurements psychologists. The new teachers colleges would train teachers and do nothing else. They would offer certificates which would consist of a menu of 'methods' courses, an unpaid internship of up to a year, and a stipended apprenticeship of a year. Admission to a teacher's college would require passing a baccalaureate examination at the least. Positing that eight sorts of certificate would be offered, there would be additional admissions requirements per the sort of certificate you sought, such as completion of a certain minimum in subject training.

    12. Dismantle social work as an independent profession, close social work programs, and dissolve licensing boards. Recruit child protective employees from the ranks of sheriff's deputies, junior grade psychologists, and nurses and send them for cross training certificates. Train junior grade mental heath tradesmen in schools of professional psychology. Train public sector managers in schools of administration which may have specialized courses of study for bureaucracies of different sorts. Train the liaison staff in hospitals and nursing homes on the job and get rid of the MSWx.

    13. Dismantle schools of library administration. Have the Library of Congress, the National Archives, and the Smithsonian develop template certificate programs for different sorts of clerks and technicians employed in such institutions. Have state libraries, state museums, state archives, and prominent institutions generally establish diploma programs which would combine classroom instruction with manual training. You'd be in residence for a calendar year and could choose from a menu of programs to fill your time. Some diploma programs would require for admission a quantum of credits earned in an academic or vocational subject at the tertiary institution (say, 42 credits in English literature; 42 credits in geology), some would not.

    14. Expel men from nursing schools and have male nurses return to school for certification as RPAs. Expel women from seminaries, and, for the most part, from divinity schools.

    15. Limit, on consumer protection grounds, the degree programs which may be offered in tertiary schools to those in a glossary enacted by the state legislature. In particular, the academic arts and sciences should be limited to foreign languages and a menu of six other subjects in the humanities, a menu of ten subjects in social research; psychology; mathematics; computer science; and a menu of six subjects in the natural sciences. Subdepartmental concentrations would be permissible if they're in the glossary, as would subdepartmental majors if the course list were long enough. Victimology would be eliminated.

    16. Grant parents who homeschool or use tuition-funded private schools a partial rebate on their school taxes. The rebate would be calculated thus: (r x t) / c, where 'c' is the number of children between their 5th and 18th birthday of which you have custody, 't' is your school tax bill, and r is determined by computing the ratio of school tax collections to that portion of the district budget which satisfies variable costs. If that ratio equals or exceeds 1, the value of 'r' is 1. If it is less than 1, the value of r is whatever that ratio is.

    17. Calculate personal income tax liability thus (1) calculate the result of this formula: (o.4 x T) - P - (d x c) where 'T' is your taxable income, 'P' is what you've paid in payroll levies, 'd' is the dimensions of your family (yourself, your spouse, juvenile dependents &c), and 'c' is the dollar value of a general credit. The dollar value is defined by law as a certain % of nominal personal income per capita so changes each year. If the result of the formula is a positive number, that's your liability. If it's a negative number, you're due a rebate. That may be the rebate you're due, but you have to compare it to the caps applicable to your household. If no one who signs the tax return qualifies as elderly or disabled, the caps applicable are a function of your earned income; if all parties signing are elderly or disabled, the caps are a function of nominal personal income per capita in your region; if one signatory is elderly or disabled and one is not, the cap is a function of the mean of these two values.

    18. Eliminate open-ended cash doles for people who are not elderly, disabled, veterans, or candidates for disaster relief. Term-limited benefits would consist of unemployment compensation, workmen's compensation, and s/t disability benefits.

    19. Eliminate public subsidies for mundane expenditures e.g. groceries, cafeteria meals, rent, utility bills, &c. Sell off all public housing. In areas with rent control, have rents indexed to nominal personal income per capita in a commuter belt and provide for piecemeal abolition by exempting new construction, exempting leases signed after a certain date, and providing for the removal of controls on a given apartment by allowing landlords to purchase a tenant's right to a controlled rent by paying him a negotiated lump sum.

    20. Replace minimum wage laws with 'minimum cash take-home pay' which would apply to hourly and to salaried employees. The minimum would be specific to a given state or territory and be equal to 10% of nominal employee compensation per worker in the state or territory in question, and be adjusted each year.

    21. Replace Medicaid, Medicare, and employer-paid medical insurance with a revised system: Have state legislatures compose a template medical insurance contract and a template l/t care insurance contract. Randomly assign all individuals in the state to a set of l/t care cohorts and all households in the state to medical insurance cohorts. Assign all the cohorts to a berth in a three-year contract cycle, so that every year state authorities are letting out contracts to insure 1/3 of the population for three years. Allow individual carriers to place bids on some but not all of the cohorts due for renewal in a given year. Premiums would be collected from all households by a personal income levy which functions as an income tax before a certain household income level and a capitation above that level. Those bidding on a cohort would receive the premiums in return for fulfilling the contract provided they won the contract. The bids would be sealed and be in the form of the schedule deductibles the company would insist on to fulfill the contract (in re medical insurance $x for a one-person household, $2x for a two person household, $3x for a larger household; in re l/t care, all a person's attachable assets, clawbacks included, up to a certain $ value).

    22. Limit the award of disability benefits for psychological problems to (1) people with severe intellectual deficits, (2) dements, and (3) schizophrenics. Remove 'mental health' care from the menu of things covered by medical insurance plans, as you do cosmetic surgery, cosmetic dentistry, experimental procedures, &c (with an exception for schizophrenia and some odds-and-ends).

    23. Prohibit by law all sex-reassignment procedures, surgical, endocrine, what have you. Be harsh with every party implicated in these horrors.

    24. Treat divorce cases as civil disputes, with only the child-support and child custody decisions subcontracted to family court.

    25. Limit the award of alimony to defendants in divorce cases unless the plaintiff can establish gross misconduct. Alimony would be term-limited according to a formula taking into account the liable party's income, the beneficiary's age, the length of the marriage, the time elapsing between the birth of the first child and the 10th birthday of the last child, &c.

    26. Be harsh with parties not in compliance with custody and visitation plans. As in jail the bitc*.

    27. Treat harshly in law people who make false accusations of criminal conduct, whether such accusations are made in criminal proceedings or matrimonial proceedings.

    28. Allow any school district wherein a critical mass of students of a particular subtype is to be found to institute by local option sex-segregated classrooms and sex-segregated schools.

    29. Allow any state network of tertiary institutions to have men-only and women-only campuses, providing none of the fare available at one or the other was unique to said institution.

    30. Allow any public institution to provide sports programs according to observable demand and to prohibit mixed-sex sports.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Intelligent Dasein

    I like where you’re going with this. You and I are agreed on the fundamentals. Well done.

  247. @Achmed E. Newman
    @iDeplorable

    You don't have to read. We've been through this before. Why waste your time?

    Replies: @iDeplorable

    You don’t have to read. We’ve been through this before. Why waste your time?

    Because you waste everyone’s time.

    Even if you’re on “commenters to ignore” we have to scroll past dozens of grayed-out Achnad Doucheman posts. Your hobby is filling the comments with inane, off-topic spam, my hobby is criticizing you for it. Behaving like a jabbering old woman is a bad look for someone who claims to be a man.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @iDeplorable

    I scroll through comments pretty quickly. I don't see why scrolling past greyed-out ones would be anything but quicker yet, if one is not retarded. I really don't care what you think of my comments - there's nothing you are going to do about it but whine and moan.

  248. anon[555] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    @anon


    No, no, you have to know the root of the problem first before you can do anything. You said so! It must be true!
     
    I did NOT say this.

    lol

    I said your analogy between the two problems, one acute and one very long term, sucks. lol. If you are going to go around in circles you remind me of a cheap version of the commenter Corvinus, and I'll ignore you from here.

    lol.

    You don't even want to give me your reference, then? A last name or link would help greatly.

    lol

    (I just assume "lol" means .STOP. like in an old telegram. No idea who this smh is...)

    Replies: @anon

    No, no, you have to know the root of the problem first before you can do anything. You said so! It must be true!

    I did NOT say this.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/find-and-replace/#comment-4865992

    First of all, you don’t make a plan until you understand the root cause of the problem.

    You were saying? Every pilot needs a tablet with thermodynamic and metallurgy textbooks loaded in case of a fire on the wing, right? Gotta figure out the root cause of combustion and calculate all the stresses before anything else. Right?

    I’ll put one cookie on a plate on the lower shelf for you: “Rational Male”. Search it. The truth about feminism and women is out there…

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @anon

    No, you dumb fuck! I referred to the half century of societal destruction, including Feminism, with that sentence you put in bold. For a pilot with a wing fire, he consults his memory items and an emergency checklist. I WROTE THAT! You may be more retarded than even iDeplorable, if that's possible.

  249. @iDeplorable
    @Achmed E. Newman


    You don’t have to read. We’ve been through this before. Why waste your time?
     
    Because you waste everyone's time.

    Even if you're on "commenters to ignore" we have to scroll past dozens of grayed-out Achnad Doucheman posts. Your hobby is filling the comments with inane, off-topic spam, my hobby is criticizing you for it. Behaving like a jabbering old woman is a bad look for someone who claims to be a man.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I scroll through comments pretty quickly. I don’t see why scrolling past greyed-out ones would be anything but quicker yet, if one is not retarded. I really don’t care what you think of my comments – there’s nothing you are going to do about it but whine and moan.

  250. @anon
    @Achmed E. Newman


    No, no, you have to know the root of the problem first before you can do anything. You said so! It must be true!
     
    I did NOT say this.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/find-and-replace/#comment-4865992


    First of all, you don’t make a plan until you understand the root cause of the problem.
     
    You were saying? Every pilot needs a tablet with thermodynamic and metallurgy textbooks loaded in case of a fire on the wing, right? Gotta figure out the root cause of combustion and calculate all the stresses before anything else. Right?

    I'll put one cookie on a plate on the lower shelf for you: "Rational Male". Search it. The truth about feminism and women is out there...

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    No, you dumb fuck! I referred to the half century of societal destruction, including Feminism, with that sentence you put in bold. For a pilot with a wing fire, he consults his memory items and an emergency checklist. I WROTE THAT! You may be more retarded than even iDeplorable, if that’s possible.

  251. @mmack
    Steve,

    Somewhat related, yet somewhat off topic, I saw this story and wanted to post it for your commentary.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/peoria-il-real-estate/

    “The strange summer land rush in Peoria’s dying south end”

    “PEORIA, Ill. — A block that had once been home to more than 100 people was down to six who lived amid the ruins of another era. There were gaping holes in roofs and crumbling foundations. Some houses were so bad that even the squatters had quit on them, and now only raccoons and rodents sought them out for shelter.

    And then, for reasons that no one in Peoria could fathom, people from all over America began snapping them up. By early summer, seven houses on this block of West Lincoln Avenue had sold to buyers from Los Angeles, San Diego, Long Island, Tacoma, Wash., and other far-off places.”

    Take a gander at who is buying these houses, and the financial situation some of these folks are in. You’ll notice a common thread across the stories of the buyers. Maybe it’s fodder for another post, maybe not.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @Prester John, @cityview, @gandydancer

    You’ll notice a common thread across the stories of the buyers.

    I don’t know why you’re being coy about this. Most of them are undereducated black suckers, but maybe that guy with a pool will make a go of it. Probably not, and it’s not the best place to put his effort in. You really need to have a large enough group to have armed guards at all times or you’re going to be plundered. Now, the real economy centers around things like that school that cost \$millions to tear down, what with asbestos removal and such. They’ll never pay for that churning repossessed lots at \$750+/per. But maybe if they invest in some DC congressvermin they can get some of those newly printed \$billions and everyone associated with local Big Man can get a bite.

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