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Canada has been having a George Floyd-like meltdown over “unmarked graves” at boarding schools, which is spun to make them sound like the Katyn Forest, but is more like students died of TB back before penicillin and then the Indian community has failed to keep their grave markers maintained. But it all serves to justify a cultural revolution to denigrate the heroes of the Old Canadians so that the New Canadians don’t have to be reminded that You Didn’t Build Canada.
Hence, the American leader of the vast coalition in which the Old Canadians won World War II must go.
From the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation:
London’s Roosevelt Public School gets new name
The east London [Ontario] school will now be called Forest City Public School
CBC News · Posted: Mar 29, 2023 4:15 AM PDT
F.D. Roosevelt Public School will now be called Forest City Public School.
Members of the school community put forward the new name, and Thames Valley District School Board (TVDSB) trustees supported the change last night.
Roosevelt is located on Second Street in east London and is named after the American president who served as the top politician in the United States from 1933 to 1045.
The school was renamed because “F.D. Roosevelt’s historical connection to racism and controversial approach to Jewish refugees during the Holocaust, which are inconsistent with the school board’s values and commitments to human rights and equity,” the school board said in a statement.”
And what about FDR’s redlining, which cost each African-American living today umpty-ump megabucks that must be reparated in cash?
As an American historical political figure, Roosevelt’s legacy also has limited relevance to the TVDSB community.
After all, what relevance does the leader of the coalition that won WWII have to do with a bunch of random migrants from all over the world? For example, FDR was friends with Churchill and many Hindus hate Churchill for opposing independence for India in 1935.
F.D. Roosevelt, the 32nd American president, oversaw the internment of Japanese-Americans during the Second World War and the prevention of Jewish refugees from coming into the United States during the war.
In more minor matters, FDR also won the Big One. But who can remember that? Or wants to remember that?
The name change is part of a board-wide review of names to make sure schools named after people reflect a “commitment to human rights, equity and inclusive learning environments,” the statement said.
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Seems to me abelist bigotry, going after a polio victim…have they no well mannered shame??
So it’s all about the Jews, again?
Really?
I used to think Canada wasn’t too bad politically. Like a 1960s liberal utopia. No wealth creation, lots of moochers and confiscatory taxation. Schoolmarmish regulation. Now it is Castro Lite + Woke.
Simple minded.
No wonder most talented Canadians come to the US.
They yammer about “First Nations” but all the hype about graves of kids is fake, 150 years ago. White Guiltism is a national cult. And tranny worship.
Just how many refugee Jews did Canada welcome before WWII?
I think most Canuks suffer from Collective Passivity and Collective Stupidity. Like the UK now. Sad.
The standard book on the policy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/None_Is_Too_ManyReplies: @Redneck farmer, @Hrw-500
Well… after all, Justin Castro is running the Canadian govt.
But driving it, no. The "Jewish" thing is mostly just grabbing "what's at hand" for the charge sheet--along with some big tentism. The key--sacred--word in that sentence is "refugee".
London rapidly collapsing as a Canadian city. In two decades it has gone from 88% to 68% white Canadians. A bit from fewer whites, but almost entirely by filling up with near 100,000 new foreigners.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London,_Ontario#Demographics
London is on the faster track, but this is happening all across Canada. Immigrants outnumber babies--much less actual "Canadian" babies. No nation in human history has been destroyed as quickly as Canada is being destroyed right now, short of utter--kill, rape, loot--defeat.
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This whole "refugee" thing--it's mere existence, much less its sacralization--is just plain stupid.
People who screw up their country so bad that they want to leave, or make themselves so unwanted in their country that they want to leave ... are the last people you want. Literally people whose "resume" is "failed" and come with negative recommendations.
If you want to take in anyone--and there is simply no need for it at all in fully settled nations (the Canadian Frontier, like the American closed ~140 years ago!)--it would be people, who have exceptional or at least superior talents and demonstrate that they are likely to integrate well with your nation's population and not cause any trouble. (Ok, this guy is a hotshot on thorium cycle and thinks Canada, Canadians are great, wants to settle here and marry a Canadian girl.)
"Refugees" would be at the bottom of the list.
Meanwhile, more bizarre tranny violence, giving even more weight to the assertion that most “tranny’s” suffer from acute mental illness by which gender dysmorphia is simply an incidental fad affectation, in no way integral to their fundamental mental affliction, so treating it as a inherent genetic sexual abnormality is a crime against vulnerable mental patients:
But what it really demonstrates is Steve's point that these autogynephile dudes are some of the least feminine guys on the planet.
His reaction was more or less: "You are insulting me, not playing along with my fetish. Eat my fist!"
There is a good handy technical term for these dudes that normies can use: "asshole."Replies: @Zoos
They've always been aggressive, but it really feels like it's boiling over. And police conduct is increasingly concerning. At some point they'll be allowed to just tear someone limb from limb.
The "Nazi!" rhetoric is also ramping up. All of the above got screamed at that they were Nazis who didn't deserve to live. And NZ hilariously proclaimed Posie Parker a white supremacist by using screenshots of her to claim she used the famous 4chan hoax "white supremacist" OK sign. Amazing.Replies: @Anonymous, @Steve Sailer
The funniest will be when John Brown is cancelled for demanding–under threat of genocide(!!!)–that indigenous Americans be called “merciless Indian savages.”
Brown: “The two most sacred documents are the Bible and the Declaration of Independence. It is better that an entire generation of men, women, and children should pass away by a violent death than a word of either be violated.”
The Declaration of Independence: “[George III has supported] the merciless Indian savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes, and conditions.”
It does not matter who they were and what they did, if they were white they will eventually be cancelled, with the new demographic realities this is inevitable. This is however a hilarious comedy by the fact that the architect of this societal system is being cancelled by it.
I’m out of buttons… great comment!
It's sorta like when someone says "Jews have too much power" and then the Jews snap their fingers and have him cancelled.Replies: @BB753
Certain people in the US government instigated our involvement in it. Whether Roosevelt really wanted to get involved is debatable, but in hindsight I’m not going to defend him, even if they’re cancelling him for the wrong reasons.
“If by these means Japan could be led to commit an overt act of war, so much the better.”
https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/McCollum_memorandum
FDR knew and wanted the Japanese to attack.
Also, FDR’s mysterious role in the December 4 “leak” of the “Rainbow 5” war plans is under-examined. That “leak” was crucial in getting Hitler to declare war against America on the 11th.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_color-coded_war_plans#Leak_of_the_Rainbow_5_planReplies: @Charles
Seriously, look into this for yourself, folks, there's nothing really controversial about it ... FDR instigated World War 2. https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html
That will come in handy. Canada is importing ~430,000 immigrants per year. There are only ~350,000 births in Canada each year. By 2050, 60-70% of Canadian 18-year-olds will be non-white.
If they increase their efforts, they might even be able to win an independence referendum. They might be better off independent.Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Anonymous, @Art Deco
There are over 500,000 new applicants to become permanent residents each year but there are total over 1,000,000 migrants entering the country yearly in temporary worker or student visa's which often transition into permanent residents. I think the per capita immigration rate is in the ball park of 5-10x current US immigration levels.
If it's not curtailed next election, by 2035 the country will likely be majority minority.
Canada effectively has an open door immigration policy to anyone who has over a certain amount in their bank account (around $20,000) because student visa's are handed out for any program, including degree mill colleges which exist solely to facilitate immigration from the third world. And whenever an employer wants someone to man their drive-thru for minimum wage they can get a temporary foreign worker visa arranged immediately.
Thank you for using the term “Cultural Revolution”, Steve. That’s the first time I recall reading it in your writing. Using the right terms helps some slow-to-anger or slow-to-get-it people realize exactly what is going on. That is if they have any inkling about what went on in China a half century ago.
It all ties in to the Jews.
What is a “Cultural Revolution”? What does the term “culture” even mean?
It hasn't gone this far here yet in some ways, as in the violence and children ratting out parents to Red Guard for punishment and so on. The cultural battle here though is a couple orders of magnitude more stupid than even Mao ZeDong could have cooked up!
Read up on it, #348. The parallels to today's America (and much of the West) are amazing.
Canada is as woke as any other Western country . Our prime minister is a double-digit !Q SJW
Every reserve across the country has a Katyn Forest, but curiously not one of them has been dug up . Steve is spot on about New Canadians. They come to Canada to consume the wealth that took Old Canadians generations to build and insist that the Old Canadians stole it from the Natives so the wealth and land rightfully belong to New Canadians because of colonialism, or something
I watched another video of this guy, and he was obnoxious toward the lady cop as soon as she arrived, sticking a camera in her face and barking out questions and orders and complaints.
Really?
I used to think Canada wasn't too bad politically. Like a 1960s liberal utopia. No wealth creation, lots of moochers and confiscatory taxation. Schoolmarmish regulation. Now it is Castro Lite + Woke.
Simple minded.
No wonder most talented Canadians come to the US.
They yammer about "First Nations" but all the hype about graves of kids is fake, 150 years ago. White Guiltism is a national cult. And tranny worship.
Just how many refugee Jews did Canada welcome before WWII?
I think most Canuks suffer from Collective Passivity and Collective Stupidity. Like the UK now. Sad.Replies: @anon, @Mike Up North, @Vinnyvette, @AnotherDad, @James J. O'Meara
Elon Musk has Canadian citizenship through his mother. He only stayed in Canada long enough to get to the States. There would be no way he could have become Elon if he stayed here
Throw away all your dimes.
OT — “A DIE director cancelled by DIE.”
https://compactmag.com/article/a-black-dei-director-canceled-by-dei
Yeah but thank God we’re not speaking German. Now where’d I put my fentanyl…
They should have changed it to Roosevelt Franklin Elementary School like in Sesame Street.
https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Roosevelt_Franklin_Elementary_School
The animosity to middle class white culture seems to have its origin in the sixties, so almost any American president before that time is likely soon to be canceled. In that decade there was a rebellion against the conventional life of pursuing a career, getting married and raising children. Fifty years later this has led to many old unhappy white Boomers with not enough money for their retirement and no children to help them out in their old age.
The children the old white Boomers didn’t have were replaced by immigrants after the 1965 immigration act and an expanding black underclass resulting from increases in welfare benefits in the sixties. The only whites these groups will vote for are the most corrupt ones, since those are the ones who will pander to nonwhites. Someday even these whites will be seen as evil racists. Kamala Harris attacking Biden’s record on race in a 2019 Democrat presidential debate will be mild compared to what will be said about him in the future by the left.
Really difficult for me to muster any opposition to FDR being cancelled.
Really?
I used to think Canada wasn't too bad politically. Like a 1960s liberal utopia. No wealth creation, lots of moochers and confiscatory taxation. Schoolmarmish regulation. Now it is Castro Lite + Woke.
Simple minded.
No wonder most talented Canadians come to the US.
They yammer about "First Nations" but all the hype about graves of kids is fake, 150 years ago. White Guiltism is a national cult. And tranny worship.
Just how many refugee Jews did Canada welcome before WWII?
I think most Canuks suffer from Collective Passivity and Collective Stupidity. Like the UK now. Sad.Replies: @anon, @Mike Up North, @Vinnyvette, @AnotherDad, @James J. O'Meara
About 5,000 Jewish refugees came to Canada between 1933 and 1945.
The standard book on the policy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/None_Is_Too_Many
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezekiel_Hart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfaZdzkThTg
I really appreciate that they took the trouble to inform their readers that the president is the top politician in the United States.
So long, Franklin. Take Woodrow with you.
According to establishment historian and British Jew Sir Martin Gilbert, of the 280,000 Jews who fled Germany in the 1930s, 240,000 were accepted into the US. Turning back one shipload of 900 who were then accepted into Britain, France and Belgium (IIRC) is hardly an atrocity.
-Discard
Screw FDR.
Sorry, Steve, but this shit couldn’t happen to a more deserving son-of-a-bitch.
ROTFLMAO
That school-boy fantasy may be true, but the crap he helped make happen — including that unnecessary war! — is still haunting us.
Hell, Steve, you wouldn’t even have a blog to complain in if not for guys like him. (Well, so, I guess you should thank FDR.)
Which guy, Pixo?
https://twitter.com/BillboardChris/status/1642204331272445952Replies: @AnotherDad, @Achmed E. Newman
If FDR is cancelled in Canada, then imagine what will happen to his contemporary, Canada’s then Prime Minister William Lyon MacKenzie King?
MacKenzie King – Canada’s Pragmatist In Chief – Professor Nerdster
https://professornerdster.com/mackenzie-king-canadas-pragmatist-in-chief/
Professor Nerdster also noted that during WWII:
What do Japanese Canadians think of this? No word yet from one of the more stident JC groups.
https://najc.ca/
I guess the Jews accusing FDR of participating in the Holofraud don’t know that the FDR administration was the first Jewish presidential administration in America.
FDR an anti Semite. What a hoot and a holler. It’s like Abe Foxman hating the Polish Catholic family that sheltered him all during WW2. Including the mail member, a city clerk who forged the fake birth certificate that saved Foxman’s life
But, but, but, why don’t various non-whites love white historical figures, says Steve. We were so good to them.
You can’t make this up.
I used to read Steve for analysis. Now, he’s just comedy gold. Sad, but amusing.
This is, in fact , precisely the opposite of what Steve said here.."After all, what relevance does the leader of the coalition that won WWII have to do with a bunch of random migrants from all over the world? " As the saying goes "When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail to you."
it was a few hours after the US declared war on germany that hitler gave the order. no US entry = no holocaust.
I don't think that's defensible.
The Holocaust was already underway when the US entered the war; by the late summer of 1941 or so, the Einsatzgruppen were methodically shooting Jews, for example. Wannsee et al were just about organizing what was already taking place.
I suspect Canada is being heavily influenced by certain political groups within India, namely Khalistanis who are potentially trying to form a Sikh diaspora homeland inside Canada. The leader of the NDP (Canada’s leftwing party that is supporting the liberal party) is Jagmeet Singh, and he has links to Khalistani groups. Another politician, senator Ratna Omidvar, appointed by Trudeau, routinely writes in newspapers how Canada’s foundations are evil and oppressive. She will use the residential school issue as a cudgel to emotionally exploit Canada’s mostly naïve population. Ratna Omidvar is no different than an Indian phone call scammer, she’s just using different techniques.
Taking a page from Mr. Sailer’s lack of context and overgeneralizing.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/canadas-jagmeet-singh-slammed-for-draconian-tweet-over-amritpal-singh-crackdown-in-punjab-101679244830038-amp.html
Singh is a populist.
“It doesn't sit right with me that parents across the country are forced to make sacrifices. But what sacrifices are CEOs making to help Canadians out? None. They're making record profits. And both Pierre Poilievre and Justin Trudeau are silent. Why? CEOs fund their campaigns.”
“She will use the residential school issue as a cudgel to emotionally exploit Canada’s mostly naïve population.”
How elitist of you to say.Replies: @Art Deco, @Lurker
Peter Frost had a thorough examination and debunking of this at his blog:
https://evoandproud.blogspot.com/2021/08/canadas-moral-panic.html
Conclusions after the “more” tag:
“1. There was no “mass grave.” The burials took place over a long period stretching from 1899 to the 1960s.
2. The graves are today “unmarked.” At the time of burial, however, they probably had wooden markers, which have since decayed and disappeared.
3. To account for the 200 graves, there is no need to assume the high annual death rates put forward in Jeff Rosenthal’s study, certainly not one out of twenty pupils.
4. The school had no deaths at all during its first nine years. For the next fourteen years, it had an annual death rate of 1.34%—in line with the annual death rate of Canadian Indigenous people at that time. The gap between the school’s death rate and the Canadian average then widened. First, the school’s death rate may have risen to 1.7% because of the growth in enrollment and a corresponding growth in opportunities for infection. Second, and more importantly, the Canadian death rate fell dramatically during the early to mid-twentieth century. The gap then narrowed after the 1940s with the introduction of streptomycin and other antibiotics.
To reduce the school’s death rate to a level below that of the pupils’ home communities, the school would have had to impose medical screening on incoming students, particularly for tuberculosis and other respiratory diseases. This was one of Peter Bryce’s recommendations. However, a reliable test for latent TB would not be developed until the 1940s. Bryce also recommended increased ventilation of the dormitories, but that measure would have been possible only in summer. At that time, the most effective measures against TB were preventive: regular hand washing, daily bathing, no spitting, etc. Those measures took decades to inculcate into Euro-Canadians, and it would have taken just as long to incorporate them into Indigenous culture.
Yes, there was a vaccine against TB, but it did not enter widespread use until the late 1920s and did not prevent primary tuberculosis infection. In hindsight, the best preventive measure would have been to cap school enrolment at thirty pupils, in order to reduce the number of possible hosts for TB and other infectious pathogens.
The Kamloops Indian Residential School was not a death camp. The risk of death was about the same there as in the pupils’ home communities. Nor was there a “mass grave.” The burials took place over the eight decades of the school’s existence. The “unmarked graves” originally had wooden markers, which decomposed and disappeared over the years. The graveyard itself was abandoned with the closure of the school in 1969.”
Yeah, with a long litany of war crimes, mostly from the air– though they say Churchill started that.
This is actually a damning phrase. We got in years after Canada did, just like in 1917. So how is FDR, not Churchill or Stalin, the leader? Unless he led before December 1941– illegally.
The big issue today is Ukraine. Canada is the most Ukrainian country outside Ukraine. Herbert Hoover saved the lives of untold numbers of Ukrainians.
Name the school after him!
Talk amongst yourselves! Here's a topic:
"FDR did nothing for Canada."
Discuss.
Uh, Hitler declared war on the U.S. after Pearl Harbor and then the U.S. declared war on Germany.
FDR Started the war.
MacKenzie King - Canada's Pragmatist In Chief - Professor Nerdster
https://professornerdster.com/mackenzie-king-canadas-pragmatist-in-chief/Professor Nerdster also noted that during WWII:Replies: @Steve Sailer, @anon, @Cagey Beast, @Cagey Beast
Justin Trudeau’s dad supported the Vichy government in the early 1940s. He was kind of fascist-leaning until the Germans started to lose.
Now I find it difficult to avoid the suspicion that these "bugs" are "features" that are useful to people with the money and motive to determine which politicians rise or fall.Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Corvinus
https://dailyrake.ca/2022/12/31/cooper-pierre-trudeau-and-friends-a-canadian-hheritage-moment/
"One wonders: how could such a seemingly based Lad become so gay? This metamorphosis can be attributed to Trudeau’s studies abroad at Harvard (‘44-’46’), in Paris (46‘-47’), and in London (‘47-’48)."
The usual "I learned from refugee scholars how mean Hitler was." Another reason to keep Them out.
Quote:
An ideological transformation in Pierre himself did take place. Though a child of what was, at the time, considered “mixed blood”, he was in line with the other Francophone youth. Namely, he was “nationalistic, anti-semetic, and anti-English” (English, p. 43).
Later, in 1942, Trudeau gave an impromptu speech denouncing the LIberals, minimizing the German threat, and ridiculing PM MacKenzie King. He compared the past fight against the Iroquois to fighting English Canadian intrusion (“today [the fight] is against other savages”). His speech also attacked “immigrants”, who, in Montreal, were mainly jews (English, p. 96). Trudeau was against the gerrymandering of districts for the benefit of jews, saying after one local election “we know that in a constituency two-thirds jewish and English, a nationalist and anti-bourgeois candidate would not have great appeal”. (English, p.97).
One wonders: how could such a seemingly based Lad become so gay? This metamorphosis can be attributed to Trudeau’s studies abroad at Harvard (‘44-’46’), in Paris (46‘-47’), and in London (‘47-’48). This was the time, as English writes, that “he unloaded some baggage that had become offensive or superfluous: the former included the casual anti-semetism of his youth” (English, p. 109). Harvard, when Pierre arrived, was a safe space for “Central European minds” fleeing “fascist persecution”. It was here, “for the first time, [that] Trudeau encountered jewish intellectuals” (English, p. 123-4). He began to read about fascism, and a particular encounter with (((Franz Neumann’s))) “Behemoth” imbued him with anti-Hitlerian sentiment (English, p. 127). He began to see the second world war as “the greatest cataclysm of all time” (English, p. 128), and his values became “increasingly cosmopolitan” (English, p. 134).
In Paris, Trudeau fully committed to his task of “reconcil[ing] Catholicism, modernism, and Communism” (English, p. 145). The City’s academia was thoroughly leftist, and specifically Communist (English, p. 149). “Personalism” became a large part of this thinking; this was something he described as “a philosophy that reconciles the individual and society”. Trudeau explained further: “The person…is the individual enriched with a social conscience, integrated into the life of the communities around him and the economic context of his time” (English, p. 147-8). We can see these ideas in Pierre’s promotion of the “Just Society” and Federalism during his tenure as PM. It stands to reason, then, that this was indeed a time of great influence in his life. Freudian psychoanalysis became an interest of Trudeau’s. HIs therapist in Paris’ commitment to Freud was such that he had “paid tribute” to ole Sigmund during the former N.S. occupation. He had sometimes done so in front of German officers (English, p. 153).
At Harvard, Pierre learned to love Jews, and to hate Hitler. In Paris, he became infatuated with Communism and Freudian bullshit. It was at the London School of Economics, however, that he found (((Harold Laski))). His lasting memory of Laski’s teachings was evidenced in 1962. In this year a Qubecois journalist asked Trudeau, and ninety-six other prominent Quebecers, to name “those who had influenced them most”. Almost all picked other Francophones. Trudeau however, chose only one Frenchmen. Of his other choices, “three were British, two were jewish” (Freud being a jew, and Laski being both jewish and “British”) (English, p. 107-8).Replies: @Peter Frost
Hitler gave the order?
Roosevelt did the right thing by keeping the Jews on the S.S. St. Louis out of the U.S. The Depression was not yet over. Unemployment remained at 17% in 1939, not to mention that the 1924 Immigration Act had placed significant limits on immigration.
Roosevelt also did the right thing by rounding up the Japanese. The Habeas Corpus clause in Art. 1, Sec. 9 allows the suspension of of habeas corpus “when in cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.” Since Japan had attacked Pearl Harbor and invaded and occupied U.S. territories in the Pacific, the detention was constitutionally valid.
Not too shabby for a crippled Democrat who shredded the Constitution in 1933-34. There are a lot of bad things that can be said about him, but not the ones enumerated above. Maybe the Canadians should STFU about FDR and ask why their own government didn’t invite all the Jews to move there instead.
(Actually, I’m surprised FDR hasn’t been defenestrated for appointing Klansman Hugo Black to the Supreme Court. Seems to me that would upset the woke revisionists more than his supposedly poor treatment of the Jews and Japanese…)
Good.
FDR an anti Semite. What a hoot and a holler. It’s like Abe Foxman hating the Polish Catholic family that sheltered him all during WW2. Including the mail member, a city clerk who forged the fake birth certificate that saved Foxman’s lifeReplies: @J.Ross
The forger was a postal worker?
https://twitter.com/chaosismygoal/status/1642465038895288322Replies: @Corvinus
“I suspect Canada is being heavily influenced by certain political groups within India, namely Khalistanis who are potentially trying to form a Sikh diaspora homeland inside Canada…Jagmeet Singh, and he has links to Khalistani groups”
Taking a page from Mr. Sailer’s lack of context and overgeneralizing.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/canadas-jagmeet-singh-slammed-for-draconian-tweet-over-amritpal-singh-crackdown-in-punjab-101679244830038-amp.html
Singh is a populist.
“It doesn’t sit right with me that parents across the country are forced to make sacrifices. But what sacrifices are CEOs making to help Canadians out? None. They’re making record profits. And both Pierre Poilievre and Justin Trudeau are silent. Why? CEOs fund their campaigns.”
“She will use the residential school issue as a cudgel to emotionally exploit Canada’s mostly naïve population.”
How elitist of you to say.
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Actually, Singh and his family are a case study of Canada being injured by immigration. They're all in some sort of rent-seeking occupation.Replies: @Anonymous, @Corvinus
You can't make this up.
I used to read Steve for analysis. Now, he's just comedy gold. Sad, but amusing.Replies: @kaganovitch
But, but, but, why don’t various non-whites love white historical figures, says Steve. We were so good to them.
This is, in fact , precisely the opposite of what Steve said here..”After all, what relevance does the leader of the coalition that won WWII have to do with a bunch of random migrants from all over the world? ” As the saying goes “When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail to you.”
I used to find it odd that certain people could rise to prominence in politics despite having past behaviors or beliefs that would seemingly have prevented their subsequent rise.
Now I find it difficult to avoid the suspicion that these “bugs” are “features” that are useful to people with the money and motive to determine which politicians rise or fall.
Indeed. There should be a case study of white Christians who elected Trump.Replies: @Curle
The standard book on the policy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/None_Is_Too_ManyReplies: @Redneck farmer, @Hrw-500
How many before September 1939, when Canada got in the war (the English-speaking part, anyway)?
Uh, does it really matter? FDR and his pals declared war on Germany long before that. They just made it inevitable afterward. Please spare us this simplistic pap. (“Holocaust”™ notwithstanding.)
There are only two things the left are consistently consistent on…
One is being always wrong. The second is throwing their hero’s under the bus when they are no longer useful to them.
Really?
I used to think Canada wasn't too bad politically. Like a 1960s liberal utopia. No wealth creation, lots of moochers and confiscatory taxation. Schoolmarmish regulation. Now it is Castro Lite + Woke.
Simple minded.
No wonder most talented Canadians come to the US.
They yammer about "First Nations" but all the hype about graves of kids is fake, 150 years ago. White Guiltism is a national cult. And tranny worship.
Just how many refugee Jews did Canada welcome before WWII?
I think most Canuks suffer from Collective Passivity and Collective Stupidity. Like the UK now. Sad.Replies: @anon, @Mike Up North, @Vinnyvette, @AnotherDad, @James J. O'Meara
“Castro Lite + Woke.”
Well… after all, Justin Castro is running the Canadian govt.
“This is however a hilarious comedy by the fact that the architect of this societal system is being cancelled by it.”
I’m out of buttons… great comment!
OT: Wicked British humor:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11928613/Tory-MP-wakes-naked-brothel-unable-clothes-calls-senior-colleague-help.html
The guy who was assaulted by a tranny and his cameraman.
The reason many Indians hate Churchill is that he starved 5 million Bengalis to death, stealing their food for British stockpiles…there are books and a movie about this…
You’d think he gets a point a point for being disabled and married to a lesbian.
Very true…
King County in Washington was retroactively named for Martin Luther King Jr. in 2005. In the same vein, perhaps these Roosevelt schools can be named for Eleanor* or her uncle Teddy**.
*Anna Eleanor by birth
**Theodore Jr, no middle name
I dunno, what video was that? You like saw a part while diddling your phone or something?
Basé et rougepilulé
‘…it was a few hours after the US declared war on germany that hitler gave the order. no US entry = no holocaust…’
I don’t think that’s defensible.
The Holocaust was already underway when the US entered the war; by the late summer of 1941 or so, the Einsatzgruppen were methodically shooting Jews, for example. Wannsee et al were just about organizing what was already taking place.
Here we go. My vote is that while everyone realized such a directive could never be explicitly issued, Hitler made it clear what he wanted. Think of Martin Sheen being ordered to kill Colonel Kurtz. ‘and..terminate the colonel’s command.’
Hitler was the Messiah. Messiahs don’t issue written orders to murder upwards of five million unarmed men, women, and children.
People here do much the same thing. They’ll advocate deporting all forty million American blacks to Africa. I sympathize — but that really implies the death of some huge proportion of that population.
…but we don’t think about that. It’s unpleasant. Now, just sending them all back to Africa; that’s reasonable.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TND
https://twitter.com/SneedHitler88/status/1641589800632287233
TND could also theoretically be applied to Steve’s “World’s Most Important Graph”:
https://twitter.com/haddock_enjoyer/status/1641469668333432833
King Charles III, despite some faults and contradictions, has had sober moments of bracing clarity:
https://imageproxy.ifunny.co/crop:x-20,resize:640x,quality:90x75/images/2f39085125f153f7a6de63014900d71f80e2be5650addccbc815abdd0b44b16b_1.jpgReplies: @Harry Baldwin
But who did he win it for? The answer is Stalin!
WWII was not a “good war”. It’s was mass suicide by the white West.
He had a lot of company. Vichy really was the French government through 1942. They saw themselves that way, and so did much of the rest of the world. The idea was France had lost, she was being grown-up about it, an armistice was in place, and eventually, a peace treaty would be hammered out.
"Notre Dame des Fascistes, Part I: Gertrude Stein, Bernard Faÿ, & the Joy of Collaboration"
https://counter-currents.com/2020/08/notre-dame-des-fascistes-1/Replies: @Colin Wright
It was over the top in the first place to name a Canadian school after a foreign war criminal who did everything in his power to push Tojo and Hitler into war with the British Empire and thereby with Canada.
segregation wall still stands in Detroit
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11915961/Why-Detroits-racist-8-Mile-Wall-standing-80-years-on.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Wall
Except the Indian leadership supported the plan, and managed (no pun intended) to make the situation worse.
Why did they leave out LBGT+…?
“I did it for the uplift of humanity and the Navy”: FDR’s Gay Sex-Entrapment Sting
On March 16, 1919, 14 Navy recruits met secretly at the naval hospital in Newport, Rhode Island, anxiously awaiting instructions for their new assignment. The senior operatives explained that the volunteers were free to leave if they objected to this special mission: a covert operation to entrap homosexual men under the authority of Assistant Secretary of the Navy Franklin D. Roosevelt and the Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI).
https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/fdrs-gay-entrapment-sting/
South African leader Smuts arranged visas for Euro jews in 1930’s. In 1921, he helped Ukrainian Jewish children to be accepted as refugees in SA.
https://elirab.me/ochberg-orphans/
Smuts is still cancelled.
MacKenzie King - Canada's Pragmatist In Chief - Professor Nerdster
https://professornerdster.com/mackenzie-king-canadas-pragmatist-in-chief/Professor Nerdster also noted that during WWII:Replies: @Steve Sailer, @anon, @Cagey Beast, @Cagey Beast
Like FDR, King also order the round up of Japanese Canadians into camps, evacuating them from British Columbia to east of the Rockies.
What do Japanese Canadians think of this? No word yet from one of the more stident JC groups.
https://najc.ca/
The big issue today is Ukraine. Canada is the most Ukrainian country outside Ukraine. Herbert Hoover saved the lives of untold numbers of Ukrainians.
Name the school after him!Replies: @anon
I’m feeling verklempt!
Talk amongst yourselves! Here’s a topic:
“FDR did nothing for Canada.”
Discuss.
Forest City Public School – the banality of liberalism.
What a bunch of bullshit.
FDR didn’t win the big one.
Stalin did, and all honor to his veterans.
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After being Hitler's co-belligerent in Poland. After contributing next-to-nothing to the war in the Pacific. After grabbing territory in the Balkans.Replies: @AKAHorace, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
Pearl Harbor was the result of a deliberate plan, a long series of provocations aimed at getting the Japanese to attack the USA (providing a back door into the war.)
“If by these means Japan could be led to commit an overt act of war, so much the better.”
https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/McCollum_memorandum
FDR knew and wanted the Japanese to attack.
Also, FDR’s mysterious role in the December 4 “leak” of the “Rainbow 5” war plans is under-examined. That “leak” was crucial in getting Hitler to declare war against America on the 11th.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_color-coded_war_plans#Leak_of_the_Rainbow_5_plan
Taking a page from Mr. Sailer’s lack of context and overgeneralizing.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/canadas-jagmeet-singh-slammed-for-draconian-tweet-over-amritpal-singh-crackdown-in-punjab-101679244830038-amp.html
Singh is a populist.
“It doesn't sit right with me that parents across the country are forced to make sacrifices. But what sacrifices are CEOs making to help Canadians out? None. They're making record profits. And both Pierre Poilievre and Justin Trudeau are silent. Why? CEOs fund their campaigns.”
“She will use the residential school issue as a cudgel to emotionally exploit Canada’s mostly naïve population.”
How elitist of you to say.Replies: @Art Deco, @Lurker
Singh is a populist.
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Actually, Singh and his family are a case study of Canada being injured by immigration. They’re all in some sort of rent-seeking occupation.
MacKenzie King - Canada's Pragmatist In Chief - Professor Nerdster
https://professornerdster.com/mackenzie-king-canadas-pragmatist-in-chief/Professor Nerdster also noted that during WWII:Replies: @Steve Sailer, @anon, @Cagey Beast, @Cagey Beast
They had a point. I find it impossible to get outraged about people who felt a faraway war was none of their business. Canada was a Two Nations confederation back then and one of those nations didn’t feel like it was their fight. Oh well. Many French-Canadians did show up and fight, so it’s not it didn’t all go one way.
Pierre Trudeau was an interesting guy but too much of a contrarian to pin down. Laurendeau and Bourassa were interesting thinkers and Jean Drapeau was just a plodding politician.
Trudeau Sr. also wanted the dissolution of aboriginal reserves and aboriginal treaty privileges. I don’t think he can be canceled, though, what with being the father of two of Canada’s holiest cows: Justin (well, putative father) and Canadian multiculturalism.
He’s also the guy who killed Quebec independence, even if it’s taken several decades of bilingualism to get there. With English slowly but surely replacing French in Quebec, even that probably won’t be an issue for much longer. So lots of Canadians respect him for that, even among those who aren’t huge fans. Most don’t seem too upset that he also killed Canada. If it hadn’t been him, it would have been someone else, but still.
Now I find it difficult to avoid the suspicion that these "bugs" are "features" that are useful to people with the money and motive to determine which politicians rise or fall.Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Corvinus
Yes, Pierre Trudeau went on to study at Harvard and get the blessings of the Rockefeller Foundation. His rival, René Lévesque was far more admirable.
MacKenzie King - Canada's Pragmatist In Chief - Professor Nerdster
https://professornerdster.com/mackenzie-king-canadas-pragmatist-in-chief/Professor Nerdster also noted that during WWII:Replies: @Steve Sailer, @anon, @Cagey Beast, @Cagey Beast
Mention of Henri Bourassa reminded me of this recent tweet:
Bourassa studied at Holy Cross College in Worcester, Massachusetts and then went back to Quebec to become quite a big deal there. He may not be typical but I think it points to the X factor that explains why French Canadian-Americans did comparatively so poorly. Unlike their Italian or Slavic neighbours, the brighter French-Canadian kids had universities and white collar jobs in their own language awaiting them only a train trip away. In other words, French Canadian-American communities suffered a brain-drain.
Andy Warhol wasn’t going to kick off the coal dust of Pittsburgh and head back to the Austro-Hungarian Empire of his parents but a talented French-Canadian kid could happily buy a one-way ticket to Montreal.
I'm part French Canadian, and I have some second cousins who have a French surname, that of our common Great Grandfather who came to Chicago from Montreal in about 1880. They are 87.5% Irish.Replies: @Anonymous
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Actually, Singh and his family are a case study of Canada being injured by immigration. They're all in some sort of rent-seeking occupation.Replies: @Anonymous, @Corvinus
Singh was a rich kid being driven every day to a prestigious American private school, yet he goes around lecturing people about white privilege and systemic racism, and his rise to the top of Canadian politics is supposed to be celebrated as a triumph over oppression, Extremely common phenomenon, but it’s just so egregious and the guy’s just so smarmy. Same with his hypocritical Sikh nationalism. Seen a million times before, yet Jagmeet somehow still inspires fresh revulsion.
So FDR was a great president for sending 100,000’s of US troops to Europe to fight and die in a war were the circumstances were no thread to the citizens of the USA, but when W did essentially the same thing in Iraq that was really bad.
London is a university town (its University of Western Ontario is over 10% of its population).
PC nonsense is par for the course. Think of Berkeley California.
Take your Good War and shove it, along with FDR. FDR, who moved the fleet from safety in San Diego to Pearl Harbor so that the Japanese attack which he deliberately provoked (and had specific warning of in advance, which he ignored) would do sufficient damage to rouse the American cattle to rage such that they would demand to go fight and die for DC’s imperial Pacific interests.
FDR, who issued an executive order targeting an entire ethnic group for imprisonment, and which if he’d been a Republican we all would have been hearing about every single day for our entire lives. FDR who was clearly enamored of Stalin (read how he stared up at him with adoration when they met at Tehran in 1943) and the communist system (his ambassador to the Soviet Union William Bullitt said that circa 1944 FDR spoke to him of an eventual “convergence” between the American and Soviet systems, i.e., that America would and should come to resemble the Soviet system as it existed under *Stalin*.)
FDR, who was specifically told by the FBI and several of his cabinet officers that certain underlings were traitors/Soviet agents and were installing other communists into important posts, but pretended to not believe it and raged at the people informing him of this. I could go on and on. If FDR is now being diminished by anti-white hatred, when he more than most is responsible for creating the world circumstances in which it could flourish, I don’t have a problem with that even if he’s being attacked for the wrong reasons.
So… BLM tactics don’t work for other activists?
Agree with your comment.
And it reminds me of an adage for today’s ethos:
“Our speech is violence; their violence is speech.”
Interesting.
On the other hand, were there all that many elite jobs for French-Canadians in Canada before about 1960?
Your comment implies that there are traditional historical figures you’ll defend on their merits. I’m not sure we can be so choosy; it looks to be pure power politics. Not like the other side is going to examine the particulars of George Floyd’s life; just shut up and worship him.
Don’t go all Hollywood on us, Steve: it was the Russians who won the war, not the Americans.
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Actually, Singh and his family are a case study of Canada being injured by immigration. They're all in some sort of rent-seeking occupation.Replies: @Anonymous, @Corvinus
So you don’t prefer certain groups. Go figure. Just like how WASPs despised their own outsiders that were deemed treacherous in the early 1900s—Eastern and Southern Europeans. So what changed? Magic dirt?
I think so. Even though the English and Scots dominated engineering and commerce, law, medicine and of course the clergy were open to them. Also, Montreal had its Polytechnique (founded in 1873)* and its School for Advanced Studies in Commerce (founded in 1907)**, so the French were actively playing catch-up in those domains.
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytechnique_Montr%C3%A9al
** https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/HEC_Montr%C3%A9al
Stalin did, and all honor to his veterans.
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After being Hitler’s co-belligerent in Poland. After contributing next-to-nothing to the war in the Pacific. After grabbing territory in the Balkans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_WarThe Sino-Japanese War began as a result of a Sino-Russian alliance,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_ZetReplies: @Malla
I’m more anti-semitic than most posters here, but I feel like even the philo-semites have to admit that Jewish hutzpah here is incredible. Fdr basically gave them everything and it still wasn’t enough.
Yet more evidence of what a catastrophe WWII was – yes, the US came out of it as an colossus and had a perhaps once-in-history economic golden era with a huge middle class, but it gave way to cultural triumphalism and crack up that has infected all of Western civilization.
I am actually sympathetic to the idea that a school district in another country might want to name its buildings after people more locally relevant, but these days any white figure with any flaws at all (real or perceived) is given as a reason for jettisoning them from society. It’s the hatred and awe that Sobran talked about 30 years ago.
Now days you can't but look at the War and think "what a waste of lives". What the heck did any of these people die for. To see their nations dismantled, destoyed?Replies: @Corvinus, @James J. O'Meara
Now I find it difficult to avoid the suspicion that these "bugs" are "features" that are useful to people with the money and motive to determine which politicians rise or fall.Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Corvinus
“I used to find it odd that certain people could rise to prominence in politics despite having past behaviors or beliefs that would seemingly have prevented their subsequent rise”
Indeed. There should be a case study of white Christians who elected Trump.
Really?
I used to think Canada wasn't too bad politically. Like a 1960s liberal utopia. No wealth creation, lots of moochers and confiscatory taxation. Schoolmarmish regulation. Now it is Castro Lite + Woke.
Simple minded.
No wonder most talented Canadians come to the US.
They yammer about "First Nations" but all the hype about graves of kids is fake, 150 years ago. White Guiltism is a national cult. And tranny worship.
Just how many refugee Jews did Canada welcome before WWII?
I think most Canuks suffer from Collective Passivity and Collective Stupidity. Like the UK now. Sad.Replies: @anon, @Mike Up North, @Vinnyvette, @AnotherDad, @James J. O'Meara
Ideologically–minoritarianism, immigrationism, anti-nationalism–absolutely!
But driving it, no. The “Jewish” thing is mostly just grabbing “what’s at hand” for the charge sheet–along with some big tentism. The key–sacred–word in that sentence is “refugee“.
London rapidly collapsing as a Canadian city. In two decades it has gone from 88% to 68% white Canadians. A bit from fewer whites, but almost entirely by filling up with near 100,000 new foreigners.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London,_Ontario#Demographics
London is on the faster track, but this is happening all across Canada. Immigrants outnumber babies–much less actual “Canadian” babies. No nation in human history has been destroyed as quickly as Canada is being destroyed right now, short of utter–kill, rape, loot–defeat.
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This whole “refugee” thing–it’s mere existence, much less its sacralization–is just plain stupid.
People who screw up their country so bad that they want to leave, or make themselves so unwanted in their country that they want to leave … are the last people you want. Literally people whose “resume” is “failed” and come with negative recommendations.
If you want to take in anyone–and there is simply no need for it at all in fully settled nations (the Canadian Frontier, like the American closed ~140 years ago!)–it would be people, who have exceptional or at least superior talents and demonstrate that they are likely to integrate well with your nation’s population and not cause any trouble. (Ok, this guy is a hotshot on thorium cycle and thinks Canada, Canadians are great, wants to settle here and marry a Canadian girl.)
“Refugees” would be at the bottom of the list.
“If by these means Japan could be led to commit an overt act of war, so much the better.”
https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/McCollum_memorandum
FDR knew and wanted the Japanese to attack.
Also, FDR’s mysterious role in the December 4 “leak” of the “Rainbow 5” war plans is under-examined. That “leak” was crucial in getting Hitler to declare war against America on the 11th.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_color-coded_war_plans#Leak_of_the_Rainbow_5_planReplies: @Charles
Roosevelt’s treachery was very calculated. The Portuguese ambassador to the US was told, in January of 1941, that the US would launch a pre-emptive strike against Japan, so therefore Portuguese colonial possessions in SE Asia were safe from the Japanese. The ambassador immediately cabled the good news to his government by codes which US cryptanalysts knew had been broken by the Japs. How did US cryptanalysts know? Because the Japanese “Purple” code had been broken by the US. The cryptanalysts waited for the Portuguese message, the bait, to show up in Japanese coded messages and it soon did. The Japanese believed a full-out assault in the Pacific would be started by the US. They had no less than the President’s word for it.
It’s almost as if FDR was right to keep Jews out.
It’s sorta like when someone says “Jews have too much power” and then the Jews snap their fingers and have him cancelled.
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/fdrs-jewish-problem/
Really?
I used to think Canada wasn't too bad politically. Like a 1960s liberal utopia. No wealth creation, lots of moochers and confiscatory taxation. Schoolmarmish regulation. Now it is Castro Lite + Woke.
Simple minded.
No wonder most talented Canadians come to the US.
They yammer about "First Nations" but all the hype about graves of kids is fake, 150 years ago. White Guiltism is a national cult. And tranny worship.
Just how many refugee Jews did Canada welcome before WWII?
I think most Canuks suffer from Collective Passivity and Collective Stupidity. Like the UK now. Sad.Replies: @anon, @Mike Up North, @Vinnyvette, @AnotherDad, @James J. O'Meara
Fun Fact: During WWII, Marshall McLuhan, just back from Oxford, was rusticating back home in Manitoba or wherever. He was corresponding with Wyndham Lewis, who was in St. Louis teaching and hiding out as a supposed “pro-Hitler” type. McLuhan said that Canada was so boring that only importing millions of Jews would wake it up. So be careful what you wish for!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9wWUc8BZgWE
The father of Toronto's other great celebrity of the era, Glenn Gould, changed the spelling from "Gold" so they wouldn't be taken as Jewish. As soon as the younger Gould hit it big, so did Jews such as Elliot and Steven Jay. It was all for naught.Replies: @James J. O'Meara, @vinteuil, @vinteuil
All true.
But what it really demonstrates is Steve’s point that these autogynephile dudes are some of the least feminine guys on the planet.
His reaction was more or less: “You are insulting me, not playing along with my fetish. Eat my fist!”
There is a good handy technical term for these dudes that normies can use: “asshole.”
It just occurred to me this difference in achievement between French-Canadian immigrants and their neighbours might be relevant today. The children of Italian and Slavic mill workers weren’t that different from the French-Canadian kids, except that a journey back to the mother country took far more time and money. Their Old World mother country was likely less prosperous and more unstable than the Dominion of Canada.
Why might this matter now? Well in the age of jet travel there might be a similar brain-drain underway among various Asian communities. If the grass is greener in the motherland, hopping on a jet today is as easy as taking a train from New England to Montreal was in the last century and is nothing like a transatlantic return journey to Poland on a steamship.
Including Gertrude Stein:
“Notre Dame des Fascistes, Part I: Gertrude Stein, Bernard Faÿ, & the Joy of Collaboration”
https://counter-currents.com/2020/08/notre-dame-des-fascistes-1/
Or until a Certain Tribe told him how the Cool Kids think:
https://dailyrake.ca/2022/12/31/cooper-pierre-trudeau-and-friends-a-canadian-hheritage-moment/
“One wonders: how could such a seemingly based Lad become so gay? This metamorphosis can be attributed to Trudeau’s studies abroad at Harvard (‘44-’46’), in Paris (46‘-47’), and in London (‘47-’48).”
The usual “I learned from refugee scholars how mean Hitler was.” Another reason to keep Them out.
Quote:
An ideological transformation in Pierre himself did take place. Though a child of what was, at the time, considered “mixed blood”, he was in line with the other Francophone youth. Namely, he was “nationalistic, anti-semetic, and anti-English” (English, p. 43).
Later, in 1942, Trudeau gave an impromptu speech denouncing the LIberals, minimizing the German threat, and ridiculing PM MacKenzie King. He compared the past fight against the Iroquois to fighting English Canadian intrusion (“today [the fight] is against other savages”). His speech also attacked “immigrants”, who, in Montreal, were mainly jews (English, p. 96). Trudeau was against the gerrymandering of districts for the benefit of jews, saying after one local election “we know that in a constituency two-thirds jewish and English, a nationalist and anti-bourgeois candidate would not have great appeal”. (English, p.97).
One wonders: how could such a seemingly based Lad become so gay? This metamorphosis can be attributed to Trudeau’s studies abroad at Harvard (‘44-’46’), in Paris (46‘-47’), and in London (‘47-’48). This was the time, as English writes, that “he unloaded some baggage that had become offensive or superfluous: the former included the casual anti-semetism of his youth” (English, p. 109). Harvard, when Pierre arrived, was a safe space for “Central European minds” fleeing “fascist persecution”. It was here, “for the first time, [that] Trudeau encountered jewish intellectuals” (English, p. 123-4). He began to read about fascism, and a particular encounter with (((Franz Neumann’s))) “Behemoth” imbued him with anti-Hitlerian sentiment (English, p. 127). He began to see the second world war as “the greatest cataclysm of all time” (English, p. 128), and his values became “increasingly cosmopolitan” (English, p. 134).
In Paris, Trudeau fully committed to his task of “reconcil[ing] Catholicism, modernism, and Communism” (English, p. 145). The City’s academia was thoroughly leftist, and specifically Communist (English, p. 149). “Personalism” became a large part of this thinking; this was something he described as “a philosophy that reconciles the individual and society”. Trudeau explained further: “The person…is the individual enriched with a social conscience, integrated into the life of the communities around him and the economic context of his time” (English, p. 147-8). We can see these ideas in Pierre’s promotion of the “Just Society” and Federalism during his tenure as PM. It stands to reason, then, that this was indeed a time of great influence in his life. Freudian psychoanalysis became an interest of Trudeau’s. HIs therapist in Paris’ commitment to Freud was such that he had “paid tribute” to ole Sigmund during the former N.S. occupation. He had sometimes done so in front of German officers (English, p. 153).
At Harvard, Pierre learned to love Jews, and to hate Hitler. In Paris, he became infatuated with Communism and Freudian bullshit. It was at the London School of Economics, however, that he found (((Harold Laski))). His lasting memory of Laski’s teachings was evidenced in 1962. In this year a Qubecois journalist asked Trudeau, and ninety-six other prominent Quebecers, to name “those who had influenced them most”. Almost all picked other Francophones. Trudeau however, chose only one Frenchmen. Of his other choices, “three were British, two were jewish” (Freud being a jew, and Laski being both jewish and “British”) (English, p. 107-8).
*Anna Eleanor by birth
**Theodore Jr, no middle nameReplies: @James J. O'Meara
Were they grooming him for the White House? Both Ulysses “S” Grant and Harry “S” Truman had no middle name but adopted a meaningless “S” to sound more normal.
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After being Hitler's co-belligerent in Poland. After contributing next-to-nothing to the war in the Pacific. After grabbing territory in the Balkans.Replies: @AKAHorace, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
Stalin did, and all honor to his veterans.
All true, but all honour to his veterans. They were the ones who did and died the most to defeat Nazism.
If you want to cancel Teddy or Franklin D without having to change all the stationery and signage, just announce you’re actually named in honor of Eleanor Roosevelt. Wasn’t she gay and woke and female and widely beloved and stuff?
Indeed. There should be a case study of white Christians who elected Trump.Replies: @Curle
That’s easy enough. There were no acceptable church going Christians running. No case study required.
Great effort post on your part. Here are 10 schekels. Don’t spend it all in one place.
Trump touted himself as God fearing—“People are so shocked when they find … out I am Protestant. I am Presbyterian. And I go to church and I love God and I love my church,” he said (on the campaign trail in 2016). “When I drink my little wine – which is about the only wine I drink – and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed,” he said. “I think in terms of ‘let’s go on and let’s make it right.”
Furthermore, how do you account for influential evangelicals putting Trump on a Christian pedestal—despite him being a thrice-married, swindling, profane, materialistic playboy—such as Franklin Graham, who compared Republicans who voted for Trump’s second impeachment to Judas Iscariot and Jerry Falwell Jr., who said he would give Trump a third honorary degree if he were still head of Liberty University?
You really need to stick to Peter Theil’s script. That is what you are paid to do. When you try to free lance, you end up falling flat on your face.Replies: @res, @James J. O'Meara
I watched the first couple minutes of this video and had to stop watching. Hate seeing people being rude to calm cops doing their job.
But the actual assault is clear as day. The guy is being exceptionally solid, where his sign, speaking his piece to the interviewer and filming with his phone, while the tranny loons yell and scream in his face ... and then the big queer sucker punches him.
There's zero percent chance the cops did not see it. They need to immediately do their job and arrest that loon for assault.
If one side can protest and riot freely, but the other side is subject to assault for peacefully speaking their piece ... then we can forget all this rule-of-law stuff and just move on to civil war.Replies: @Pixo
London?!?! As in, the imperial capital that oppressed the Canadian colonists under its steel boot, like, over 100 years ago? That name has to go. They could rename it Kullorsuaqeqqata or something to honor the indigenous heritage.
Down a bit on the list, but one of things we obviously suffer from is oblivious “presentism.”
I’ve had a comfortable–very comfortable–life, growing up in post-War American suburbia. But I’m at least aware of the before-time. Before antibiotics and vaccines and modern surgical interventions … and modern sewage treatment and clean water … kids died all the time, young women died in child birth all the time, healthy people got some illness and died all the time, people had accidents and were crippled or got infections and died all the time. That was life–and death. Lots of “churn”–because of course people still had lots of babies–replacements back then.
A lot of people now just seem utterly oblivious to all that and seem to think that they are entitled to an easy life and if there is–or was–any kind of unpleasantness …. oppression!
In reality “unpleasantness”–struggle and death–is normal. But white guys gradually pushed all that back a fair bit.
“There were no acceptable church going Christians running”
Great effort post on your part. Here are 10 schekels. Don’t spend it all in one place.
Trump touted himself as God fearing—“People are so shocked when they find … out I am Protestant. I am Presbyterian. And I go to church and I love God and I love my church,” he said (on the campaign trail in 2016). “When I drink my little wine – which is about the only wine I drink – and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed,” he said. “I think in terms of ‘let’s go on and let’s make it right.”
Furthermore, how do you account for influential evangelicals putting Trump on a Christian pedestal—despite him being a thrice-married, swindling, profane, materialistic playboy—such as Franklin Graham, who compared Republicans who voted for Trump’s second impeachment to Judas Iscariot and Jerry Falwell Jr., who said he would give Trump a third honorary degree if he were still head of Liberty University?
You really need to stick to Peter Theil’s script. That is what you are paid to do. When you try to free lance, you end up falling flat on your face.
https://twitter.com/BillboardChris/status/1642204331272445952Replies: @AnotherDad, @Achmed E. Newman
That may well be, Pixo.
But the actual assault is clear as day. The guy is being exceptionally solid, where his sign, speaking his piece to the interviewer and filming with his phone, while the tranny loons yell and scream in his face … and then the big queer sucker punches him.
There’s zero percent chance the cops did not see it. They need to immediately do their job and arrest that loon for assault.
If one side can protest and riot freely, but the other side is subject to assault for peacefully speaking their piece … then we can forget all this rule-of-law stuff and just move on to civil war.
That’s not how you should interact with cops.
More broadly, getting into physical altercations with trannies and antifa in far-left jurisdictions is really stupid. Best case is you get a viral video. Whoop dee doo, the number of videos of trannies/joggers/antifa crime is endless.
More likely, you get assaulted with impunity. Worst case is you get arrested and spend the night in jail, possibly even charged if you lose your cool.
If you must, confront them in red jurisdictions like Kyle Rittenhouse.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
I am actually sympathetic to the idea that a school district in another country might want to name its buildings after people more locally relevant, but these days any white figure with any flaws at all (real or perceived) is given as a reason for jettisoning them from society. It's the hatred and awe that Sobran talked about 30 years ago.Replies: @AnotherDad
The Anglo-American victory was essentially liberal/social-democratic and nationalist–everyone against Nazis and Japanese occupying and abusing other nations, peoples. The contradiction with the Western empires was obvious, and imperialism outside the Russia’s–admittedly huge–empire, was dismantled (ex. Philippines, India) or defeated (ex. Vietnam) and withered away in the two decades following the War.
But this victory was ideologically hijacked–mainly by Jews in the US–retconned into a minoritarian, anti-nationalist victory which is utterly destroying the West.
Now days you can’t but look at the War and think “what a waste of lives”. What the heck did any of these people die for. To see their nations dismantled, destoyed?
No, it was a victory by nations of the world against oppression, Anglo AND non-Anglo.
"was essentially liberal/social-democratic and nationalist–everyone against Nazis and Japanese occupying and abusing other nations, peoples."
Which ultimately led to European countries finally giving their colonies their independence.
"The contradiction with the Western empires was obvious"
Indeed, but not after 200 years of resource plundering.
"But this victory was ideologically hijacked–mainly by Jews in the US–retconned into a minoritarian, anti-nationalist victory which is utterly destroying the West."
Patently false. The fact of the matter is that white people began to rectify their egregious conduct, which led to racial and ethnic nationalism and representative democracy.
You never cease to amaze me anymore on how dead wrong you are about events in world history.
Now days you can’t but look at the War and think “what a waste of lives”. What the heck did any of these people die for. To see their nations dismantled, destoyed?
Penicillin is not effective against TB (although it was originally effective against numerous other deadly bacteria before resistance developed). Effective drugs were developed in the late 1940s which allowed many TB patients to leave sanitariums and live normal lives (among them, my uncle). Alas, George Orwell was unable to tolerate the original TB drug (streptomycin) and succumbed.
But the actual assault is clear as day. The guy is being exceptionally solid, where his sign, speaking his piece to the interviewer and filming with his phone, while the tranny loons yell and scream in his face ... and then the big queer sucker punches him.
There's zero percent chance the cops did not see it. They need to immediately do their job and arrest that loon for assault.
If one side can protest and riot freely, but the other side is subject to assault for peacefully speaking their piece ... then we can forget all this rule-of-law stuff and just move on to civil war.Replies: @Pixo
Obviously I am not defending the violent shemale. But that cop arrived and he and the other guy crowded around her, stuck two cameras in her face, and were confrontational and rude.
That’s not how you should interact with cops.
More broadly, getting into physical altercations with trannies and antifa in far-left jurisdictions is really stupid. Best case is you get a viral video. Whoop dee doo, the number of videos of trannies/joggers/antifa crime is endless.
More likely, you get assaulted with impunity. Worst case is you get arrested and spend the night in jail, possibly even charged if you lose your cool.
If you must, confront them in red jurisdictions like Kyle Rittenhouse.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Kenosha_streetcar_4615_on_56th_St_at_1st_Ave_in_2005.jpgReplies: @James J. O'Meara
“Linc” of Mod Squad was obviously named by a naïve white screenwriter.
Maybe he was named for Benjamin Lincoln? That would fit better with all the Jeffersons and Washingtons, from the same war.
Benjamin Lincoln’s Fireside
‘We’re very excited’: Lincoln Day to celebrate Hingham’s rich history
Your Honda Odyssey– not Steve’s, it was too old– was built in Lincoln, Alabama, named for Benjamin.
Great effort post on your part. Here are 10 schekels. Don’t spend it all in one place.
Trump touted himself as God fearing—“People are so shocked when they find … out I am Protestant. I am Presbyterian. And I go to church and I love God and I love my church,” he said (on the campaign trail in 2016). “When I drink my little wine – which is about the only wine I drink – and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed,” he said. “I think in terms of ‘let’s go on and let’s make it right.”
Furthermore, how do you account for influential evangelicals putting Trump on a Christian pedestal—despite him being a thrice-married, swindling, profane, materialistic playboy—such as Franklin Graham, who compared Republicans who voted for Trump’s second impeachment to Judas Iscariot and Jerry Falwell Jr., who said he would give Trump a third honorary degree if he were still head of Liberty University?
You really need to stick to Peter Theil’s script. That is what you are paid to do. When you try to free lance, you end up falling flat on your face.Replies: @res, @James J. O'Meara
Methinks Corvy doth protest too much.
That’s not how you should interact with cops.
More broadly, getting into physical altercations with trannies and antifa in far-left jurisdictions is really stupid. Best case is you get a viral video. Whoop dee doo, the number of videos of trannies/joggers/antifa crime is endless.
More likely, you get assaulted with impunity. Worst case is you get arrested and spend the night in jail, possibly even charged if you lose your cool.
If you must, confront them in red jurisdictions like Kyle Rittenhouse.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
Kenosha is more puce– a mix of red, blue, and brown.
Kenosha is also the birthplace of Orson Welles, Don Ameche, the Rambler, the Gremlin, and call-in radio– thank Joe Pyne at the appropriately-named WLIP.
It’s also the site of a “heritage” streetcar line, which must have pleased reactionary railfan and Kenosha native Paul Weyrich. I don’t know if he was involved, or how it fared during the Rittenriot.
Frank Zappa: Does that wooden leg of yours make you a tree?
Which pseudo-historian is promoting this?
Enough to play a part in draining the Little Canadas.
To a lesser extent this happened with European immigrant communities as well. I had some interest in genealogy a while back, and looked into the European immigrant communities where my own ancestors lived while they were in the US. It seemed most people there who were doing well enough ended up going back, including some who were born there.
They didn’t normally go back to fill elite jobs, they’d just made enough money for it to make sense to go back home and start anew richer than they or their families had been when they left.
Of course, all of this was much, much easier for Canadians.
That’s not how you should interact with anybody! Reminds me of Jesse Jackson’s reaction to the home invasion robbery at the Detroit home of a civil rights icon– something to the effect of “How could anyone attack Rosa Parks?” Uh, Rev, how could anyone attack anybody?
The guy responsible was still at it a quarter-century later. So much for “correctional”.
Man who assaulted Rosa Parks in 1994 faces charges in similar Grand Rapids case
Thank you Jordan Peterson for posting this in reference to Scotland’s new “PM”:
“By what standards is he not “white”? Is he not white like Italians, Jews and Irishmen were once not “white”?” Hey Jordan, what is black, what is yellow, what is a woman? Thank you Jordan for exposing what you are – a traitor.
iSteve again invents reasons out if thin air, like with Germany/Ukraine.
It is not a service to “lead a League of coutries into War”. It is a coercion and a thing to pay for.
Nor the “Axes of Evil” was a thing to unquestionally combat against (ask Mr Lindbergh).
The Greatest Canadian PM, King, resisted the crap till the end, gained concessions both from UK (Newfoundland, heavy industries) and from FDR, who was the main warmonger.
So, really, Canada owns this partocular chap nothing.
I am embarrassed to be a Canadian. Clown country.
Now days you can't but look at the War and think "what a waste of lives". What the heck did any of these people die for. To see their nations dismantled, destoyed?Replies: @Corvinus, @James J. O'Meara
“The Anglo-American victory…”
No, it was a victory by nations of the world against oppression, Anglo AND non-Anglo.
“was essentially liberal/social-democratic and nationalist–everyone against Nazis and Japanese occupying and abusing other nations, peoples.”
Which ultimately led to European countries finally giving their colonies their independence.
“The contradiction with the Western empires was obvious”
Indeed, but not after 200 years of resource plundering.
“But this victory was ideologically hijacked–mainly by Jews in the US–retconned into a minoritarian, anti-nationalist victory which is utterly destroying the West.”
Patently false. The fact of the matter is that white people began to rectify their egregious conduct, which led to racial and ethnic nationalism and representative democracy.
You never cease to amaze me anymore on how dead wrong you are about events in world history.
Now days you can’t but look at the War and think “what a waste of lives”. What the heck did any of these people die for. To see their nations dismantled, destoyed?
In any case, I’ve always maintained that it was Churchill and the American military high command who defeated The Bohemian Corporal—not FDR.
It landed him a cameo in Annie Hall:
The father of Toronto’s other great celebrity of the era, Glenn Gould, changed the spelling from “Gold” so they wouldn’t be taken as Jewish. As soon as the younger Gould hit it big, so did Jews such as Elliot and Steven Jay. It was all for naught.
I was a philosophy major when I saw that when it came out, and it bugged me how MM says "my whole fallacy is wrong" when he clearly should say "my whole theory." Did MM flub the line, and no one had the guts to tell him? Did he refuse to do a re-take? Did Allen write "fallacy" and MM didn't care? So many questions, since it's such an obvious mistake.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
Googling like mad, I can find no serious evidence that the wildest, craziest pianist ever was even slightly Jewish.
It’s been a busy week for trans violence. Other than the big one, and the transurrections, they also attacked the Posie Parker lady in batshit crazy New Zealand (after trying to do so in somewhat less crazy Australia, but at least in Australia the cops were doing their jobs), attacked leftist Graham Linehan and some elderly feminists in London (police just fiddling their thumbs), and swarmed a guy who was actually expressing support for them and punched his phone out of his hands (again, no help from the police).
They’ve always been aggressive, but it really feels like it’s boiling over. And police conduct is increasingly concerning. At some point they’ll be allowed to just tear someone limb from limb.
The “Nazi!” rhetoric is also ramping up. All of the above got screamed at that they were Nazis who didn’t deserve to live. And NZ hilariously proclaimed Posie Parker a white supremacist by using screenshots of her to claim she used the famous 4chan hoax “white supremacist” OK sign. Amazing.
Quebec has the right idea encouraging middle class French people to move to Quebec.
If they increase their efforts, they might even be able to win an independence referendum. They might be better off independent.
People do worry about the language stuff, and their government promises them that there are lots of Haitians, Arabs and Africans on the way who'll help save it. But even there they're being played. Quietly, hundreds of thousands of Indian and Asian foreign students are let in who pretend to study at some fake school for a short while, and then they're in for good. Every province of Canada has enthusiastically embraced replacement, no exceptions.Replies: @Not Raul
But what it really demonstrates is Steve's point that these autogynephile dudes are some of the least feminine guys on the planet.
His reaction was more or less: "You are insulting me, not playing along with my fetish. Eat my fist!"
There is a good handy technical term for these dudes that normies can use: "asshole."Replies: @Zoos
Indeed.
It’s interesting in that the usual way men conform to behaving themselves with other men is from the potential for physical violence. It generally tends to keep men from “going too far” in social interactions. In a sustained verbal altercation, when a man says, “knock it off, I’ve had enough,” other men tend to back down to avoid a physical altercation, whether they think they could win or not. It’s kind of a social “professional courtesy” amongst men.
Women, on the other hand, will start crying, and if whomever doesn’t stop with what the woman considers some kind of pointed verbal assault, will later engage in the character assassination of her antagonist. That’s women’s “violence,” ie, the woman’s way of punching whomever in the face. And many are pretty good at it. They can be quite the effective little bullies.
Anyway, I guess with many trannies, especially if they’re a former Navy Seal, old habits are hard to break.
If this one was a REAL woman, (s)he’d have simply cried on the show, then later had made aspersions on his/her twitter page that Ben Shapiro might be a pedophile.
They've always been aggressive, but it really feels like it's boiling over. And police conduct is increasingly concerning. At some point they'll be allowed to just tear someone limb from limb.
The "Nazi!" rhetoric is also ramping up. All of the above got screamed at that they were Nazis who didn't deserve to live. And NZ hilariously proclaimed Posie Parker a white supremacist by using screenshots of her to claim she used the famous 4chan hoax "white supremacist" OK sign. Amazing.Replies: @Anonymous, @Steve Sailer
* Twiddling, of course. Typo for now, but with the bizarre ways of the British police lately, nothing would surprise me…
"Notre Dame des Fascistes, Part I: Gertrude Stein, Bernard Faÿ, & the Joy of Collaboration"
https://counter-currents.com/2020/08/notre-dame-des-fascistes-1/Replies: @Colin Wright
To be fair to Stein, the revulsion in France against the Third Republic and in favor of Petain, was close to universal. On July 10th, 1940, the Chamber of Deputies voted 569 to 80 to give full powers to Petain and effectively disband itself. At least at the start, sentiment in favor of Vichy would seem to have been close to universal. It was only as the years passed, and Vichy kept failing to deliver, that this changed.
Great effort post on your part. Here are 10 schekels. Don’t spend it all in one place.
Trump touted himself as God fearing—“People are so shocked when they find … out I am Protestant. I am Presbyterian. And I go to church and I love God and I love my church,” he said (on the campaign trail in 2016). “When I drink my little wine – which is about the only wine I drink – and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed,” he said. “I think in terms of ‘let’s go on and let’s make it right.”
Furthermore, how do you account for influential evangelicals putting Trump on a Christian pedestal—despite him being a thrice-married, swindling, profane, materialistic playboy—such as Franklin Graham, who compared Republicans who voted for Trump’s second impeachment to Judas Iscariot and Jerry Falwell Jr., who said he would give Trump a third honorary degree if he were still head of Liberty University?
You really need to stick to Peter Theil’s script. That is what you are paid to do. When you try to free lance, you end up falling flat on your face.Replies: @res, @James J. O'Meara
If that’s a real quote, I honestly can’t believe the entire audience didn’t start projectile vomiting.
Now days you can't but look at the War and think "what a waste of lives". What the heck did any of these people die for. To see their nations dismantled, destoyed?Replies: @Corvinus, @James J. O'Meara
Ask India about that.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Kenosha_streetcar_4615_on_56th_St_at_1st_Ave_in_2005.jpgReplies: @James J. O'Meara
Pyne: What’s with the long hair? Are you a girl?
Frank Zappa: Does that wooden leg of yours make you a tree?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9wWUc8BZgWE
The father of Toronto's other great celebrity of the era, Glenn Gould, changed the spelling from "Gold" so they wouldn't be taken as Jewish. As soon as the younger Gould hit it big, so did Jews such as Elliot and Steven Jay. It was all for naught.Replies: @James J. O'Meara, @vinteuil, @vinteuil
Great moment in cinema.
I was a philosophy major when I saw that when it came out, and it bugged me how MM says “my whole fallacy is wrong” when he clearly should say “my whole theory.” Did MM flub the line, and no one had the guts to tell him? Did he refuse to do a re-take? Did Allen write “fallacy” and MM didn’t care? So many questions, since it’s such an obvious mistake.
https://psa.gov.ph/civilregistration/problems-and-solutions/compound-middle-names-dela-cruz-quintos-deles-villa-roman
BLM tactics don’t usually work for BLM either. The police are not “defunded” or “abolished” and BLM candidates have generally done poorly. BLM activists keep turning up dead too. And their stated goal was making black lives matter, but they instead got black lives destroyed.
Had Shapiro been a real man, he’d have punched the tranny!
https://dailyrake.ca/2022/12/31/cooper-pierre-trudeau-and-friends-a-canadian-hheritage-moment/
"One wonders: how could such a seemingly based Lad become so gay? This metamorphosis can be attributed to Trudeau’s studies abroad at Harvard (‘44-’46’), in Paris (46‘-47’), and in London (‘47-’48)."
The usual "I learned from refugee scholars how mean Hitler was." Another reason to keep Them out.
Quote:
An ideological transformation in Pierre himself did take place. Though a child of what was, at the time, considered “mixed blood”, he was in line with the other Francophone youth. Namely, he was “nationalistic, anti-semetic, and anti-English” (English, p. 43).
Later, in 1942, Trudeau gave an impromptu speech denouncing the LIberals, minimizing the German threat, and ridiculing PM MacKenzie King. He compared the past fight against the Iroquois to fighting English Canadian intrusion (“today [the fight] is against other savages”). His speech also attacked “immigrants”, who, in Montreal, were mainly jews (English, p. 96). Trudeau was against the gerrymandering of districts for the benefit of jews, saying after one local election “we know that in a constituency two-thirds jewish and English, a nationalist and anti-bourgeois candidate would not have great appeal”. (English, p.97).
One wonders: how could such a seemingly based Lad become so gay? This metamorphosis can be attributed to Trudeau’s studies abroad at Harvard (‘44-’46’), in Paris (46‘-47’), and in London (‘47-’48). This was the time, as English writes, that “he unloaded some baggage that had become offensive or superfluous: the former included the casual anti-semetism of his youth” (English, p. 109). Harvard, when Pierre arrived, was a safe space for “Central European minds” fleeing “fascist persecution”. It was here, “for the first time, [that] Trudeau encountered jewish intellectuals” (English, p. 123-4). He began to read about fascism, and a particular encounter with (((Franz Neumann’s))) “Behemoth” imbued him with anti-Hitlerian sentiment (English, p. 127). He began to see the second world war as “the greatest cataclysm of all time” (English, p. 128), and his values became “increasingly cosmopolitan” (English, p. 134).
In Paris, Trudeau fully committed to his task of “reconcil[ing] Catholicism, modernism, and Communism” (English, p. 145). The City’s academia was thoroughly leftist, and specifically Communist (English, p. 149). “Personalism” became a large part of this thinking; this was something he described as “a philosophy that reconciles the individual and society”. Trudeau explained further: “The person…is the individual enriched with a social conscience, integrated into the life of the communities around him and the economic context of his time” (English, p. 147-8). We can see these ideas in Pierre’s promotion of the “Just Society” and Federalism during his tenure as PM. It stands to reason, then, that this was indeed a time of great influence in his life. Freudian psychoanalysis became an interest of Trudeau’s. HIs therapist in Paris’ commitment to Freud was such that he had “paid tribute” to ole Sigmund during the former N.S. occupation. He had sometimes done so in front of German officers (English, p. 153).
At Harvard, Pierre learned to love Jews, and to hate Hitler. In Paris, he became infatuated with Communism and Freudian bullshit. It was at the London School of Economics, however, that he found (((Harold Laski))). His lasting memory of Laski’s teachings was evidenced in 1962. In this year a Qubecois journalist asked Trudeau, and ninety-six other prominent Quebecers, to name “those who had influenced them most”. Almost all picked other Francophones. Trudeau however, chose only one Frenchmen. Of his other choices, “three were British, two were jewish” (Freud being a jew, and Laski being both jewish and “British”) (English, p. 107-8).Replies: @Peter Frost
This metamorphosis can be attributed to Trudeau’s studies abroad at Harvard (‘44-’46’), in Paris (46‘-47’), and in London (‘47-’48).”
That is what his biographers claim. The problem with that explanation is that Pierre Trudeau continued to argue that WWII was not a worthy struggle … long after 1945. In 1948, he wrote an opinion piece in which he denounced the internment of Adrien Arcand during the war and supported his claim for compensation.
In this text, he goes beyond simply supporting Arcand’s right to speak out against the war.
Pierre Elliott Trudeau, “Réflexions sur une démocratie et sa variante. Lettre de Londres” Notre Temps. Hebdomadaire Social et Culturel 3 (18) (14 February 1948) pp. 1, 6.https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=q1zXlPLtbUIC&dat=19480214&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
That opinion piece was written after Trudeau’s time at Harvard, the Sorbonne and (largely) the LSE. There is additional evidence (presented by historian Esther Delisle) that indicates he never underwent a profound ideological conversion. Rather, in 1949 he turned 30 and realized that life was passing him by. The world of his dreams was no more, and it was time to move on.
How many did?
I’m part French Canadian, and I have some second cousins who have a French surname, that of our common Great Grandfather who came to Chicago from Montreal in about 1880. They are 87.5% Irish.
I see mentions of “deportation” as sporting ‘nice guy’ speculation: If people can’t behave, they have a fair chance to leave (self-deport). The other choice is war and death within CONUS. Look up #TND on Twitter.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TND
https://twitter.com/SneedHitler88/status/1641589800632287233
TND could also theoretically be applied to Steve’s “World’s Most Important Graph”:
https://twitter.com/haddock_enjoyer/status/1641469668333432833
King Charles III, despite some faults and contradictions, has had sober moments of bracing clarity:
They've always been aggressive, but it really feels like it's boiling over. And police conduct is increasingly concerning. At some point they'll be allowed to just tear someone limb from limb.
The "Nazi!" rhetoric is also ramping up. All of the above got screamed at that they were Nazis who didn't deserve to live. And NZ hilariously proclaimed Posie Parker a white supremacist by using screenshots of her to claim she used the famous 4chan hoax "white supremacist" OK sign. Amazing.Replies: @Anonymous, @Steve Sailer
Posie Parker is a different person than Parker Posey?
The second point has also made her quite controversial among many of those who most fervently agree with her on the first one. That camp is generally quite angry that women have been thrown under the bus for the benefit of "men of color", but Parker went too far for many of them by being friendly with some right-wingers and stating the obvious by simply saying Tommy Robinson had to do what the authorities didn't want to. She's also a lipstick-wearing housewife with platinum-dyed hair, so I imagine that doesn't help either. Still, there's been a groundswell of support for her among that group after the whole Aus/NZ business. And some of the "respectable" UK media condemning the way she was treated. Even as a horrifically anti-white, twerking-police-state dystopia, the UK is still saner than most of its offshoots. Well, the US is complicated. Canada/Australia/NZ, though, are the most insane places on Earth, right up there with the parts of Africa where they hunt albinos. And speaking of Africa, British Saffas are largely also among the most batshit people on the planet, despite living where they do. I guess at least the Rhodesians were normal.
Why is Steve’s comment section so beta and mainstream?
Seriously, look into this for yourself, folks, there’s nothing really controversial about it … FDR instigated World War 2. https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html
Cant say I’m really broken up by that. The creater of the welfare state should be taken off the dime and put his cousin Teddy on instead. And while we’re at it lets cancel Justin Trudeau too.
Yes, I have recent Irish ancestors (a great-uncle and a great-great-uncle) who made money in Argentina and the US and then moved back to Ireland to settle down. This happened more often than people think.
I wish my fellow Canadians would keep this sort of talk to themselves. It’s not like our American friends will reciprocate or think more of you for badmouthing your own country.
On second reading I can see this was badly written. What I meant to say was that French-Canadians did well in the legal and medical professions but the Scots and English dominated engineering and commerce.
Taking a page from Mr. Sailer’s lack of context and overgeneralizing.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/canadas-jagmeet-singh-slammed-for-draconian-tweet-over-amritpal-singh-crackdown-in-punjab-101679244830038-amp.html
Singh is a populist.
“It doesn't sit right with me that parents across the country are forced to make sacrifices. But what sacrifices are CEOs making to help Canadians out? None. They're making record profits. And both Pierre Poilievre and Justin Trudeau are silent. Why? CEOs fund their campaigns.”
“She will use the residential school issue as a cudgel to emotionally exploit Canada’s mostly naïve population.”
How elitist of you to say.Replies: @Art Deco, @Lurker
She has to go home.
Renaming seems a daily occurrence in Canada. Even “Girl Scouts” not immune.
https://globalnews.ca/news/9279182/brownies-new-name-girl-guides-of-canada/
https://twitter.com/BillboardChris/status/1642204331272445952Replies: @AnotherDad, @Achmed E. Newman
I meant to respond with that [Thanks] to you, not me, obviously, for answering my question. I didn’t know which guy, sandwich board guy or the long-haired freak, you were talking about, earlier.
As for this video, well, women cops… PERIOD. Bad idea. That smirk is enough to want to punch her out, but things would go even worse for him. I agree with AnotherDad, yet again. No doubt, he could have let his friend take video of the smarmy cop and shown her the video of what happened to him about a minute earlier.
As for your take that this guy shouldn’t start trouble, don’t you get that he’s trying NOT to be violent. Are people going to just take that tranny stuff in society as if it’s truth and normal now? This guy was trying to DO something, something that the American Communists can do ANYWHERE without any hassle from anyone. That guy hit him hard. Too bad he didn’t have a .40 underneath that sandwich board, as that freak surely deserved it.
Sorry for the late reply. I don’t mean at all to be insulting or snarky about this, but you are Exhibit A of why I wrote:
I can’t expect everyone to like history so much or be interested in some of the worst of the Chinese history during the era of Mao. “Cultural Revolution” is, I’m sure the best translation of what Mao’s Commies called their program of 10 years of humiliation, killings, exiling, etc. of other Chinamen (and women) during that era (mid-1960s to mid-1970s).
It hasn’t gone this far here yet in some ways, as in the violence and children ratting out parents to Red Guard for punishment and so on. The cultural battle here though is a couple orders of magnitude more stupid than even Mao ZeDong could have cooked up!
Read up on it, #348. The parallels to today’s America (and much of the West) are amazing.
NS Germany declared war on the United States in December 1941 after months of open warfare against the Kriegsmarine by the US Navy in support of the British war effort, in particular, of supply convoys bearing war supplies to the UK in blatant violation of American neutrality. Read about the USS Reuben James and USS Greer incidents. This was such an exercise in deception that the US warships didn’t even display the flag, in violation of every relevant provision of the laws of war and naval engagement.
Read the issue for yourself. It is online at http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1941/12/04/page/1/article/f-d-r-s-war-plans
It is believed that FDR personally leaked this document (one of several color-coded war games and not an operational strategy, incidentally) in order to provoke a German declaration of war at that specific moment in time. American intelligence was fully aware that Japan was planning a strike on US forces somewhere in the Pacific, in retaliation for the provocations of the Stimson Doctrine, crippling economic sanctions, and the reassignment in 1940 of a huge naval strike force from its bases in California to Hawaii, two thousand miles closer to Japan’s home islands. Hence the leak was timed for the moment when the nation would feel itself most vulnerable and the people, overwhelmingly opposed to fighting another European war, least likely to protest effectively. And it worked brilliantly, suppressing for a generation the vibrant US antiwar movement born of bitter WW1 experience.Replies: @Malla
Montrealers remember Drapeau as the mayor who saddled Montreal taxpayers with decades of extra taxes due to the city’s budget deficit from the 1976 Montreal Olympic Games.
Drapeau claimed that “the Montreal Olympic Games can no more have a deficit than a man can have a baby”. (This was back in the 1970s, decades before “World War Trans” lunacy.) Well before 1976 it became obvious that the Montreal Olympics was going to have a huge deficit.
Aislin (Terry Mosher) was a political cartoonist in Montreal, and one of his best-known cartoons was of Drapeau on the phone to Henri Morgentaler, a well-known and notorious abortionist in Quebec at the time.
If they increase their efforts, they might even be able to win an independence referendum. They might be better off independent.Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Anonymous, @Art Deco
They will just import francophones from Haiti, French Guiana, Le Cote d’Ivoire, Algeria, Morocco.
https://statistique.quebec.ca/en/produit/tableau/immigrants-by-country-of-birth-quebecReplies: @The Anti-Gnostic
I was a philosophy major when I saw that when it came out, and it bugged me how MM says "my whole fallacy is wrong" when he clearly should say "my whole theory." Did MM flub the line, and no one had the guts to tell him? Did he refuse to do a re-take? Did Allen write "fallacy" and MM didn't care? So many questions, since it's such an obvious mistake.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
His initials are MMcL. It bugs me when folks miss that.
It’s alphabetised [sic] with Mac- in the Isles, and perhaps in Canada as well. My stepfather’s middle initial on the monogrammed bag he lent me for a European trip was McK. An occasional conversation starter. His daughter had the same middle name; I don’t know if she carried on the tradition.
John Phillips’s daughter could go by Laura MacK. Phillips. Maybe she does, when traveling.
Continental compound initials can start with de, le, van, etc. The Philippines missed the memo:
https://psa.gov.ph/civilregistration/problems-and-solutions/compound-middle-names-dela-cruz-quintos-deles-villa-roman
PC nonsense is par for the course. Think of Berkeley California.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
With the notable exception of the late J. Philippe Rushton!
Interestingly, Martin Luther King and his cohorts shabby treatment and sexual use of women does not inhibit veneration of him. Funny how these things work.
lll
Notice that Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s collaboration with murderous Communist Joseph Stalin during the 1940s was not given as a reason for changing the school’s name. The hypocrisy is breathtaking!
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Wow, it’s been a long, long time since I’ve heard Parker Posey mentioned. The similarity had never even occurred to me.
Posie Parker (coming from the expression “nosey parker”) is the pseudonym of Kellie Jay Keene-Minshull, a middle-aged British woman who’s somehow become incredibly controversial in the UK, and supposedly a danger to Australia and NZ’s national security, for saying that:
1) men aren’t women
2) rape and child abuse is bad, even when it’s “POC” men raping and abusing white women and children
The second point has also made her quite controversial among many of those who most fervently agree with her on the first one. That camp is generally quite angry that women have been thrown under the bus for the benefit of “men of color”, but Parker went too far for many of them by being friendly with some right-wingers and stating the obvious by simply saying Tommy Robinson had to do what the authorities didn’t want to.
She’s also a lipstick-wearing housewife with platinum-dyed hair, so I imagine that doesn’t help either.
Still, there’s been a groundswell of support for her among that group after the whole Aus/NZ business. And some of the “respectable” UK media condemning the way she was treated. Even as a horrifically anti-white, twerking-police-state dystopia, the UK is still saner than most of its offshoots.
Well, the US is complicated. Canada/Australia/NZ, though, are the most insane places on Earth, right up there with the parts of Africa where they hunt albinos. And speaking of Africa, British Saffas are largely also among the most batshit people on the planet, despite living where they do. I guess at least the Rhodesians were normal.
I'm part French Canadian, and I have some second cousins who have a French surname, that of our common Great Grandfather who came to Chicago from Montreal in about 1880. They are 87.5% Irish.Replies: @Anonymous
Many. You can look up the numbers of Americans living in Quebec through the years, the vast majority of them French Canadian. And, of course, even that number still wouldn’t include the many returnees who never acquired American citizenship.
If they increase their efforts, they might even be able to win an independence referendum. They might be better off independent.Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Anonymous, @Art Deco
It’s nothing like that. There just aren’t enough French people to go around. Sure, a lot of them are coming to Quebec, and that migration might increase as France continues going down the drain. But there will never be enough to dominate Quebec’s crazy immigration quotas. And it’s not like a lot of people are worried about it. Quebec only has the reputation of being somewhat sane because the rest of Canada is beyond crazy.
People do worry about the language stuff, and their government promises them that there are lots of Haitians, Arabs and Africans on the way who’ll help save it. But even there they’re being played. Quietly, hundreds of thousands of Indian and Asian foreign students are let in who pretend to study at some fake school for a short while, and then they’re in for good. Every province of Canada has enthusiastically embraced replacement, no exceptions.
https://statistique.quebec.ca/en/produit/tableau/immigrants-by-country-of-birth-quebec
I mean, is there any normal person left who is not ashamed of being “Western” or whatever, at this point? Sure, Canada may be where the disease is most advanced and at times most hilarious, but all our societies are pitiful, let’s be honest.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TND
https://twitter.com/SneedHitler88/status/1641589800632287233
TND could also theoretically be applied to Steve’s “World’s Most Important Graph”:
https://twitter.com/haddock_enjoyer/status/1641469668333432833
King Charles III, despite some faults and contradictions, has had sober moments of bracing clarity:
https://imageproxy.ifunny.co/crop:x-20,resize:640x,quality:90x75/images/2f39085125f153f7a6de63014900d71f80e2be5650addccbc815abdd0b44b16b_1.jpgReplies: @Harry Baldwin
What a weak, sad, anxious countenance on the new British king.
The Divine Right no longer exists in real form so King Charles III could also be called The Great Panjandrum or First Monkey of the Monkeys and have the same gravitas.Replies: @Art Deco
FDR had US ships attacking German Uboats months before Pearl Harbor.
FDR Started the war.
I feel nostalgia for that era. I wish we were still living in the time of megaprojects for the boys. I’d rather have a half-dozen more Mirabel Airports or Olympic Stadiums than live under the matriarchal stagnation we have now.
In the last century we had military and civil megaprojects. A few feminists snarked from the sidelines about “boys with their toys” but no one paid them much attention. Now we have matriarchal mangerialism, so we all just squabble over perceived slights or about our hair, bodies, genitals or the lack of respect paid to our self-reinvention projects. We squabble about who’s most deserving of personal attention and treats rather than figuring out how to do or build anything.
The result of which was half of Europe fell under Soviet control. Winning!
It's sorta like when someone says "Jews have too much power" and then the Jews snap their fingers and have him cancelled.Replies: @BB753
He didn’t keep them out of the White House, though. Morgenthau was the most visible but there were plenty of Jews in his administrations.
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/fdrs-jewish-problem/
Next time, actually address the substance of my post. Trump portrayed himself as being a religious man allegedly worthy of Evangelical support. I believe you are a Christian, correct?
Hitler declared war on the United States four days after Pearl Harbor primarily because a week earlier, on December 4, the Chicago Tribune published, under the headline “FDR’s WAR PLANS!” a top secret document code-named “Rainbow Five”, which exposed a US scheme to create a five million man army to invade Germany in 1943. This was the last straw, after years of the U.S. illegally supplying war materiel to Britain, which declared war on Germany after it sabotaged the German-Polish border talks with Washington’s approval. It was a propaganda masterstroke to publish this bombshell in a paper vigorously opposed to FDR, so much so that FDR had ordered the IRS to audit and relentlessly harass its owner, the flamboyant Col. McCormick.
Read the issue for yourself. It is online at http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1941/12/04/page/1/article/f-d-r-s-war-plans
It is believed that FDR personally leaked this document (one of several color-coded war games and not an operational strategy, incidentally) in order to provoke a German declaration of war at that specific moment in time. American intelligence was fully aware that Japan was planning a strike on US forces somewhere in the Pacific, in retaliation for the provocations of the Stimson Doctrine, crippling economic sanctions, and the reassignment in 1940 of a huge naval strike force from its bases in California to Hawaii, two thousand miles closer to Japan’s home islands. Hence the leak was timed for the moment when the nation would feel itself most vulnerable and the people, overwhelmingly opposed to fighting another European war, least likely to protest effectively. And it worked brilliantly, suppressing for a generation the vibrant US antiwar movement born of bitter WW1 experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Uf_3E4pn3U
JB-355 planReplies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
If they increase their efforts, they might even be able to win an independence referendum. They might be better off independent.Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Anonymous, @Art Deco
Canada as a whole would benefit from a velvet divorce. The national question distorts the political dynamic on the federal level. A more fundamental problem is that Canadians have given up defending their country. Planned immigration intake is 10x what might be prudent.
Not sure we need the megaprojects, but the rest of your assessment seems spot on.
It wasn’t. The Russians managed, with a great deal of Lend Lease aid and casualties one critic estimates were 4x what a country with intelligent strategy and tactics would have suffered, to push the over-extended Germans back before launching a barbarian invasion of eastern Europe.
The standard book on the policy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/None_Is_Too_ManyReplies: @Redneck farmer, @Hrw-500
And there was some Jewish immigrants before 1933.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezekiel_Hart
FDR was not Canadian, so why should I care?
He’s a tired old man in a ceremonial role. Mr. Harry Markle claimed in an interview that all the royals hate their jobs. He obviously hates it, but he sho do like dem simoleons.
The Divine Right no longer exists in real form so King Charles III could also be called The Great Panjandrum or First Monkey of the Monkeys and have the same gravitas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMEO7hANbyc
They either do not hate it or their state of mind about it cannot be described as liking it or hating it.Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
Karma ist eine bitch. If there is one man who did the most to permanently destroy Western civilization and help in the spread of Marxism, it was FDR. And now the Left attack him like they attack Churchill. What irony! What justice!! I am sure Hitler and Tojo are laughing it out in heaven as they look down upon FDR in hell.
LOW IQ retard Cornballious. An Indian Punjabi will hate an Indian Tamil but when facing those of more foreign genetic groups, they will band together. Because compared to those foreign genentic groups a North Indian and a South Indian is more similar to each other Comprende? Are you guys so stupid that you have to be taught basic human nature, common throughout the World and always was and always will be core human nature? Something is wrong with a good chunk of westerners. Lack common sense.
Ad hominem doesn’t get you anywhere.
“An Indian Punjabi will hate an Indian Tamil”
Perhaps, but not in every case.
“but when facing those of more foreign genetic groups, they will band together”
So, magic dirt it is.Replies: @Malla
Aren't they from opposite ends of the country? Do polar bears eat penguins?Replies: @Malla
Read the issue for yourself. It is online at http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1941/12/04/page/1/article/f-d-r-s-war-plans
It is believed that FDR personally leaked this document (one of several color-coded war games and not an operational strategy, incidentally) in order to provoke a German declaration of war at that specific moment in time. American intelligence was fully aware that Japan was planning a strike on US forces somewhere in the Pacific, in retaliation for the provocations of the Stimson Doctrine, crippling economic sanctions, and the reassignment in 1940 of a huge naval strike force from its bases in California to Hawaii, two thousand miles closer to Japan’s home islands. Hence the leak was timed for the moment when the nation would feel itself most vulnerable and the people, overwhelmingly opposed to fighting another European war, least likely to protest effectively. And it worked brilliantly, suppressing for a generation the vibrant US antiwar movement born of bitter WW1 experience.Replies: @Malla
Lets not forget FDR’s secret plan for sneaky attacks on Japan from China by American mercenaries flying planes with Chinese roundels before pearl harbour. FDR desperately wanted Murica in the War to save Stalin and maybe help the CPC.
JB-355 plan
The usual retort to this was "we were defending China against Japan's murderous invasion."
That's BS as you know. It's becoming evident that Chiang was the instigator of war against Japan, as much was Churchill was against Germany.Replies: @Malla, @Malla
Those numbers drastically understate the current levels of immigration.
There are over 500,000 new applicants to become permanent residents each year but there are total over 1,000,000 migrants entering the country yearly in temporary worker or student visa’s which often transition into permanent residents. I think the per capita immigration rate is in the ball park of 5-10x current US immigration levels.
If it’s not curtailed next election, by 2035 the country will likely be majority minority.
Canada effectively has an open door immigration policy to anyone who has over a certain amount in their bank account (around $20,000) because student visa’s are handed out for any program, including degree mill colleges which exist solely to facilitate immigration from the third world. And whenever an employer wants someone to man their drive-thru for minimum wage they can get a temporary foreign worker visa arranged immediately.
The Divine Right no longer exists in real form so King Charles III could also be called The Great Panjandrum or First Monkey of the Monkeys and have the same gravitas.Replies: @Art Deco
His aunt makes 600 public appearances a year at age 72. Here’s the Queen’s cousin, at age 87.
They either do not hate it or their state of mind about it cannot be described as liking it or hating it.
Probably, they have nothing better to do. They certainly don't rule.Replies: @Art Deco
It’s about time.
Way too late, and for the wrong reasons. But still – it’s about time.
Let the FDR Memorial be razed to the ground. Let every dime minted since 1946 be melted down and sold for scrap.
May the single most sinister figure in American history live for ever in infamy.
I wish that I had said that.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9wWUc8BZgWE
The father of Toronto's other great celebrity of the era, Glenn Gould, changed the spelling from "Gold" so they wouldn't be taken as Jewish. As soon as the younger Gould hit it big, so did Jews such as Elliot and Steven Jay. It was all for naught.Replies: @James J. O'Meara, @vinteuil, @vinteuil
Really? Seriously?
Googling like mad, I can find no serious evidence that the wildest, craziest pianist ever was even slightly Jewish.
He doesn’t always look like that. Though his first official portrait as king is rather hangdog.
He’s not Canadian but FDR had once a cottage ressort when he used to take summer vacations in Campobello Island in New Brunswick. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roosevelt_Campobello_International_Park
“LOW IQ retard Cornballiou
Ad hominem doesn’t get you anywhere.
“An Indian Punjabi will hate an Indian Tamil”
Perhaps, but not in every case.
“but when facing those of more foreign genetic groups, they will band together”
So, magic dirt it is.
An Indian Punjabi will hate an Indian Tamil
Aren’t they from opposite ends of the country? Do polar bears eat penguins?
Check out the crazy tribalism in Africa, without understanding tribalism, you cannot understand most political events in Africa, never. That is by watching BBC World or CNN or France 24 or DW, who all try to hide this aspect as much as possible because of their wierd leftard beliefs, you will always remain clueless, pussy, posh, foreign outsiders about how things in Africa work.
Since Westerners have gone nuts and wierdos from rest of humanity (the kind of B.S. Cornballius/ Cornivus spits here would make an entire Arab or Indian village burst out with laughter), we need Churchill's observation of Afghans and thus basic human behaviour. In a Pathan/Pastun village, families have feuds with each other but when the neighbouring village attacks, the whole village unites and fights against the new enemy. But when the neighbouring valley folks attack them, all the erstwhile enemies, that is all the villages in the valley unite and fight the invaders from the next valley. That is loyalty increases with genetic closeness and decreases with genetic distance. No magic dirt here. Not a grain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Uf_3E4pn3U
JB-355 planReplies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
JB-355 plan would have been the Second American Volunteer Group (AVG), the first AVG being the Flying Tigers. Evidently Eric Prince proposed a redux of this in Ukraine,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Tigers#Suggested_Revival
The usual retort to this was “we were defending China against Japan’s murderous invasion.”
That’s BS as you know. It’s becoming evident that Chiang was the instigator of war against Japan, as much was Churchill was against Germany.
“At about 1830 on 9 August, Lt Isao Oyama, commander of the Western Detachment, Shanghai Special Naval Landing Force together with Seaman 1st Class Saito, the driver, were murdered by the Chinese Peace Preservation Corps while riding in an official car on the road outside Hung-Chiao Airfield in the western part of Shanghai. Diplomatic negotiations, as usual, made no progress. The incident was used as an excuse by both sides, however, and a sharp increase was made in the forces. Eventually this resulted in the clash in Shanghai.”
Lt. Isao Oyama (27 years old), commander of the 1st Company of the Shanghai Special Naval Landing Force and 1st Seaman Yozo Saito were killed by (allegedly) members of the Chinese Peace Preservation Corps on Monument Road in the extension of the common concession at about 18:30 hours on 9 August 1937 (fact). It is still unknown whether Oyama attempted to enter the military airport there. But as it was told in Peter Harmsen’s book “Shanghai 1937: Stalingrad on the Yangtze” Zhang Fakui, the commander of the Chinese right wing, said the Japanese marines fell in a Chinese ambush and were killed, after that in order to simulate it was self-defense action, they brought a Chinese convicted to death dressed in military clothing and executed him with a shot in his neck.
The Japanese already controlled most of North China. The Imperial Japanese Army (IJA) was more concerned with the Soviet Union which they regarded as the primary military threat. The IJA had no desire at that time to expand the war into eastern and central China. It was hoped that a confrontation with the Japanese in Shanghai with it’s large international community and significant foreign business interests, would engender sympathy and support for the Chinese cause.
There were 30,000 Japanese civilians in Shanghai and considerable business interests, including a large number of factories and warehouses. When the Oyama incident occurred there were only about 300 Japanese SNLF troops guarding the Japanese interests in the city, but Zhang Zhizhong had approximately 30,000 KMT troops outside of town. If you were Japan would you provoke an incident at this time or wait until you had more troops on the ground?
In Moscow, Soviet Union, however, Soviet leader Joseph Stalin had a different design. He wanted to expand the Second Sino-Japanese War as quickly as possible in order to mire the Japanese Army in the vast Chinese interior, thus reducing the chance that Japan could divert its resources to attack Soviet Russia so that he could move West towards Europe. Until the powerful Japanese threat in the East was diverted elsewhere, he could not move towards Central and Western Europe. Through the 1930s, USSR had been planting agents in China, and what Chiang did not know was that Zhang Zhizhong was among them. To Chiang Kaishek, Shanghai was strategically important, for it guarded the mouth of the Yangtze River, upstream of which lay the capital city Nanjing, and it was a major industrial center. Chiang’s first attempt at safeguarding this city was to prevent the war from escalating to that location. Stalin, however, ordered the opposite, demanding Zhang to provoke the Japanese. Obeying Stalin’s orders, Zhang repeatedly sent Chiang plans for invasions into the Japanese zone in Shanghai, which was guarded by only 300 Special Naval Landing Forces troops with no sign of being reinforced in the future. Chiang rejected every request, and Zhang knew that the only way to achieve his orders from Moscow was to create a situation in which the Japanese would fire the first shot, so that he could advance without disobeying Chiang’s orders.
“Mao: The Unknown Story” Jung Chang and Jon Halliday, 2005
“..Zhang staged an incident outside Shanghai airport, where a Chinese army unit,which he himself specially stationed there, shot dead a Japanese marine lieutenant and a private. A Chinese prisoner under sentence of death was then dressed in Chinese uniform and shot dead at the airport gate, to make it seemed the Japanese had fired first.”Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
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After being Hitler's co-belligerent in Poland. After contributing next-to-nothing to the war in the Pacific. After grabbing territory in the Balkans.Replies: @AKAHorace, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
It’s the other way around. Japanese militarism was a response to Soviet communism. The Americans ended up later fighting the Chicoms, Norks and Viet Cong, all of whom existed because the Soviets, and because the Americans removed the Japanese from the Asian continent.
Pearl Harbor resulted as an escalation of the Sino-Japanese War, in which the belligerents were aligned in a totally different way–
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War
The Sino-Japanese War began as a result of a Sino-Russian alliance,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Zet
Chinese troops with German helmets and weaponsMussolini and Hitler did not initially get along either. That is because the Austrian National Socialists did a power grab for the unification with Germany, earlier, Austria was ruled by Austrian Fascists. So it was a case of National Socialists vs Fascists and of course Mussolini did not like that. People do not know this but Hitler had supplied German weapons to the Ethiopians against the Italians. Yes, the German Nazis had supported a Black African country against a White European country. During the Second Italo-Ethiopian War, Nazi Germany was the first country to supply arms and munitions to Ethiopian Arbegnoch resistance unit against Italy due to objection over integration of Austria to Germany.
Not in your history books, I am sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMEO7hANbyc
They either do not hate it or their state of mind about it cannot be described as liking it or hating it.Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
Well ya got Harry there: two of them either don’t hate it or don’t like it or hate it.
Probably, they have nothing better to do. They certainly don’t rule.
His real name was Hiram Ulysses Grant
That isn’t what Quebec has been doing lately. Most francophone immigrants have been actual French.
https://statistique.quebec.ca/en/produit/tableau/immigrants-by-country-of-birth-quebec
People do worry about the language stuff, and their government promises them that there are lots of Haitians, Arabs and Africans on the way who'll help save it. But even there they're being played. Quietly, hundreds of thousands of Indian and Asian foreign students are let in who pretend to study at some fake school for a short while, and then they're in for good. Every province of Canada has enthusiastically embraced replacement, no exceptions.Replies: @Not Raul
In Quebec, the leading source of immigrants is France. China, in second place, doesn’t even send 1/3 as many.
https://statistique.quebec.ca/en/produit/tableau/immigrants-by-country-of-birth-quebec
Uncles are not ancestors.
Unless the uncle knocked up his sister.
The usual retort to this was "we were defending China against Japan's murderous invasion."
That's BS as you know. It's becoming evident that Chiang was the instigator of war against Japan, as much was Churchill was against Germany.Replies: @Malla, @Malla
Don’t blame poor Chiang too much, he was kidnapped during the Sian/Xian incident and taken to Mao, his son was captive in Moscow, Stalin’s captive. So Chiang who too eventually saw the threat of Communism to China, had no option but to fight the Japanese Empire for the Commies. Japan mired up into the vast heartlands of China meant the “Eastern threat” was neutralised and Stalin could move West towards his European side, towards Finland, towards the three baltic nations, towards Poland, towards Moldovia and was building up military resources for a final big push towards the Atlantic ocean. This build up was observed by the Romanians and the Hungarians and Germany busy in war was notified by them. Germany suddenly saw a huge build up of forces on it’s Eastern border while busy fighting Britain. A meeting with Molotov (Molotov making demands towards Finland, Romania, Bulgaria and Turkey) and Hitler was convinced that the Soviets were preparing for a push for all Europe. And hence Germany and five other nations were forced to a pre-emptive strike via Barbarossa. Fight the gigantic Red Army in the mud of the USSR rather than have red army tanks swarming the Autobahns. And had Romania been taken by the Soviets, Germany’s main oil supply, Germany would be lost and there was no other power in Europe (besides Britain) who could defend Western Europe from a Soviet invasions. The British elites might have even welcome the Soviets as “liberators” of Europe from evul Nazis. But for most common Europeans, it would have been no liberation, just ask the Estonians.
Anyways, the Commies even started the Sino-Japanese War (or WW2) for Chiang. Check my next post.
The usual retort to this was "we were defending China against Japan's murderous invasion."
That's BS as you know. It's becoming evident that Chiang was the instigator of war against Japan, as much was Churchill was against Germany.Replies: @Malla, @Malla
The instigation was done by the CPC because they wanted a war in between the KMT and Japanese Empire. Thus their agent staged the assassination of Lt Isao Oyama. The Omaya Incident, the murder of Lt Isao Oyama, commander of the Western Detachment, Shanghai Special Naval Landing Force, is the incident that precipitated the Second Battle of Shanghai and the full scale escalation of war between Japan and the KMT in China, and thus WW2.
“At about 1830 on 9 August, Lt Isao Oyama, commander of the Western Detachment, Shanghai Special Naval Landing Force together with Seaman 1st Class Saito, the driver, were murdered by the Chinese Peace Preservation Corps while riding in an official car on the road outside Hung-Chiao Airfield in the western part of Shanghai. Diplomatic negotiations, as usual, made no progress. The incident was used as an excuse by both sides, however, and a sharp increase was made in the forces. Eventually this resulted in the clash in Shanghai.”
Lt. Isao Oyama (27 years old), commander of the 1st Company of the Shanghai Special Naval Landing Force and 1st Seaman Yozo Saito were killed by (allegedly) members of the Chinese Peace Preservation Corps on Monument Road in the extension of the common concession at about 18:30 hours on 9 August 1937 (fact). It is still unknown whether Oyama attempted to enter the military airport there. But as it was told in Peter Harmsen’s book “Shanghai 1937: Stalingrad on the Yangtze” Zhang Fakui, the commander of the Chinese right wing, said the Japanese marines fell in a Chinese ambush and were killed, after that in order to simulate it was self-defense action, they brought a Chinese convicted to death dressed in military clothing and executed him with a shot in his neck.
The Japanese already controlled most of North China. The Imperial Japanese Army (IJA) was more concerned with the Soviet Union which they regarded as the primary military threat. The IJA had no desire at that time to expand the war into eastern and central China. It was hoped that a confrontation with the Japanese in Shanghai with it’s large international community and significant foreign business interests, would engender sympathy and support for the Chinese cause.
There were 30,000 Japanese civilians in Shanghai and considerable business interests, including a large number of factories and warehouses. When the Oyama incident occurred there were only about 300 Japanese SNLF troops guarding the Japanese interests in the city, but Zhang Zhizhong had approximately 30,000 KMT troops outside of town. If you were Japan would you provoke an incident at this time or wait until you had more troops on the ground?
In Moscow, Soviet Union, however, Soviet leader Joseph Stalin had a different design. He wanted to expand the Second Sino-Japanese War as quickly as possible in order to mire the Japanese Army in the vast Chinese interior, thus reducing the chance that Japan could divert its resources to attack Soviet Russia so that he could move West towards Europe. Until the powerful Japanese threat in the East was diverted elsewhere, he could not move towards Central and Western Europe. Through the 1930s, USSR had been planting agents in China, and what Chiang did not know was that Zhang Zhizhong was among them. To Chiang Kaishek, Shanghai was strategically important, for it guarded the mouth of the Yangtze River, upstream of which lay the capital city Nanjing, and it was a major industrial center. Chiang’s first attempt at safeguarding this city was to prevent the war from escalating to that location. Stalin, however, ordered the opposite, demanding Zhang to provoke the Japanese. Obeying Stalin’s orders, Zhang repeatedly sent Chiang plans for invasions into the Japanese zone in Shanghai, which was guarded by only 300 Special Naval Landing Forces troops with no sign of being reinforced in the future. Chiang rejected every request, and Zhang knew that the only way to achieve his orders from Moscow was to create a situation in which the Japanese would fire the first shot, so that he could advance without disobeying Chiang’s orders.
“Mao: The Unknown Story” Jung Chang and Jon Halliday, 2005
“..Zhang staged an incident outside Shanghai airport, where a Chinese army unit,which he himself specially stationed there, shot dead a Japanese marine lieutenant and a private. A Chinese prisoner under sentence of death was then dressed in Chinese uniform and shot dead at the airport gate, to make it seemed the Japanese had fired first.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_incident_of_1927
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongzhou_mutiny
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hankou_incidentZhang Xueliang's father Zhang Zuolin spied for the Russians during Russo-Japanese War and went over to side of Japs after being captured. He was later liquidated by Kantogun who legitimately suspected him for flipping again to the side of Soviets.Chiang was the same way with the frequent double-dealing.Chinese troops with German helmets and weapons
Exactly, the Japanese knew about Sino-German cooperation, more extensive than their own with the Germans, and precisely wanted to avoid escalation.Have you read Rana Mitter? He gave a very sympathetic perspective on Chiang, related to him being the most Indophilic amongst modern Chinese leaders. Its actually alot of Sinophilic Japanese who really don't like Chiang.
In related news:
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other/election-interference-probe-has-first-nations-educator-concerned-about-further-racism-from-csis-rcmp/ar-AA19tTwA?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=9e37021fc268463aaa28340b3fd26cea&ei=14
Ad hominem doesn’t get you anywhere.
“An Indian Punjabi will hate an Indian Tamil”
Perhaps, but not in every case.
“but when facing those of more foreign genetic groups, they will band together”
So, magic dirt it is.Replies: @Malla
I agree but someone has to say facts.
Yes not in every case, but in most cases,t hat is how it tends to be around the world. There are exceptions, sure.
I did have some doubts about my ad hominem attack but now I am even more convinced I was correct. Thanks.
https://statistique.quebec.ca/en/produit/tableau/immigrants-by-country-of-birth-quebecReplies: @The Anti-Gnostic
Read your chart again. Only 10.7% of immigrants to Quebec from 2017 – 2021 have been from France. The other 89.3% are from China, India, Algeria, Syria, Morocco, Cameroon, Haiti, Phillipines, Tunisia, Iran, etc.
Not as bad as my African-Caribbean-weighted projection, but definitely not French. Do you really expect Chinese, Hindu and MENA immigrants to embrace French-Canadian nationalism?
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-an-influx-of-french-immigrants-to-quebec-highlights-a-cultural-shift/
https://www.canadianimmigration.net/blog/france-canada-transitions-why-canada-is-a-top-destination-for-french-immigrants/Replies: @Steve Sailer
Aren't they from opposite ends of the country? Do polar bears eat penguins?Replies: @Malla
Yes they are but unlike polar bears and penguins, people have been moving around the country and different kind of Indians have not always been liking the other kinds. Lot of racial…er…ethnic stereotypes. But as I said, racism/tribalism is and always was and always will be, core human nature.
Check out the crazy tribalism in Africa, without understanding tribalism, you cannot understand most political events in Africa, never. That is by watching BBC World or CNN or France 24 or DW, who all try to hide this aspect as much as possible because of their wierd leftard beliefs, you will always remain clueless, pussy, posh, foreign outsiders about how things in Africa work.
Since Westerners have gone nuts and wierdos from rest of humanity (the kind of B.S. Cornballius/ Cornivus spits here would make an entire Arab or Indian village burst out with laughter), we need Churchill’s observation of Afghans and thus basic human behaviour. In a Pathan/Pastun village, families have feuds with each other but when the neighbouring village attacks, the whole village unites and fights against the new enemy. But when the neighbouring valley folks attack them, all the erstwhile enemies, that is all the villages in the valley unite and fight the invaders from the next valley. That is loyalty increases with genetic closeness and decreases with genetic distance. No magic dirt here. Not a grain.
38K French immigrants in 20 years…it really is small vs the tsunami from South Asia.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-an-influx-of-french-immigrants-to-quebec-highlights-a-cultural-shift/
https://www.canadianimmigration.net/blog/france-canada-transitions-why-canada-is-a-top-destination-for-french-immigrants/
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-an-influx-of-french-immigrants-to-quebec-highlights-a-cultural-shift/
https://www.canadianimmigration.net/blog/france-canada-transitions-why-canada-is-a-top-destination-for-french-immigrants/Replies: @Steve Sailer
The French have traditionally really liked France.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaubV-mYNhQ
That’s until their current president, Emmanuel Macron, screwed completely France. There’s a interview in French who featured Pierre de Gaulle, grandson of former French president Charles de Gaulle, where he said they completely destroyed the France of his grandfather. The French video is a length of around 42 minutes.
Probably, they have nothing better to do. They certainly don't rule.Replies: @Art Deco
Here’s a different suggestion: he’s lying through his teeth or he’s projecting. No, the Queen’s 87 year old cousin retired soldier cousin does not rule. Neither did Donald Trump’s cousins.
It’s not hard to imagine a substantial number of royals including the royal family and the monarch himself realize they are just tourist attractions engaged in meaningless ceremony. Lots of people with active minds and ambition would hate that job.
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They don't see tourists. They make the rounds of local philanthropies and community associations.Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Hibernian
It’s not hard to imagine a substantial number of royals including the royal family and the monarch himself realize they are just tourist attractions engaged in meaningless ceremony. Lots of people with active minds and ambition would hate that job.
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They don’t see tourists. They make the rounds of local philanthropies and community associations.
The royals up to and including the monarch himself are anachronisms with no political power or even cultural influence. Central Cee (look him up) has more cultural influence than any member of the British royal family. They get up and decide which clothes to wear and get photographed shaking hands with other people engaged in meaningless tasks while the real work goes on elsewhere. Lots of people with above-average intelligence and ambition would hate that job.Replies: @Art Deco
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They don't see tourists. They make the rounds of local philanthropies and community associations.Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Hibernian
Here, let me remove that mouse poop for you lest you trip over it:
The royals up to and including the monarch himself are anachronisms with no political power or even cultural influence. Central Cee (look him up) has more cultural influence than any member of the British royal family. They get up and decide which clothes to wear and get photographed shaking hands with other people engaged in meaningless tasks while the real work goes on elsewhere. Lots of people with above-average intelligence and ambition would hate that job.
The royals up to and including the monarch himself are anachronisms with no political power or even cultural influence. Central Cee (look him up) has more cultural influence than any member of the British royal family. They get up and decide which clothes to wear and get photographed shaking hands with other people engaged in meaningless tasks while the real work goes on elsewhere. Lots of people with above-average intelligence and ambition would hate that job.Replies: @Art Deco
Let me point out the actual problem. Your personal habit is snarling and sneering at benign people going about their business. The Duke of Kent is merely more prominent than most. You want the source of the problem here, look in the mirror.
The British royals including the monarch serve no substantive function and it is not hard to imagine that, per Harry, they hate their meaningless and unfulfilling jobs. I'm not the source of their manifestly apparent ennui.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9wWUc8BZgWE
The father of Toronto's other great celebrity of the era, Glenn Gould, changed the spelling from "Gold" so they wouldn't be taken as Jewish. As soon as the younger Gould hit it big, so did Jews such as Elliot and Steven Jay. It was all for naught.Replies: @James J. O'Meara, @vinteuil, @vinteuil
Oops – sorry for my previous comment on this post. I thought you were saying that the Golds changed their names because they didn’t want people to find out that they were Jewish. But in fact they changed their names because they didn’t want people to think they were Jewish when they weren’t.
Are we talking about Britain or imagined threats to your dignity from anonymous people on the internet?
The British royals including the monarch serve no substantive function and it is not hard to imagine that, per Harry, they hate their meaningless and unfulfilling jobs. I’m not the source of their manifestly apparent ennui.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_WarThe Sino-Japanese War began as a result of a Sino-Russian alliance,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_ZetReplies: @Malla
Interesting that NS Germany was once on the opposite side of the Japanese Empire. What many don’t realise that initially Fascist italy, N.S. Germany and Imperial Japan were not allies. Not only did Hitler support the Nationalist Chinese and supplied them weapons,
Chinese troops with German helmets and weapons
Mussolini and Hitler did not initially get along either. That is because the Austrian National Socialists did a power grab for the unification with Germany, earlier, Austria was ruled by Austrian Fascists. So it was a case of National Socialists vs Fascists and of course Mussolini did not like that. People do not know this but Hitler had supplied German weapons to the Ethiopians against the Italians. Yes, the German Nazis had supported a Black African country against a White European country. During the Second Italo-Ethiopian War, Nazi Germany was the first country to supply arms and munitions to Ethiopian Arbegnoch resistance unit against Italy due to objection over integration of Austria to Germany.
Not in your history books, I am sure.
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They don't see tourists. They make the rounds of local philanthropies and community associations.Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Hibernian
Tourists see them, and their palaces.
“At about 1830 on 9 August, Lt Isao Oyama, commander of the Western Detachment, Shanghai Special Naval Landing Force together with Seaman 1st Class Saito, the driver, were murdered by the Chinese Peace Preservation Corps while riding in an official car on the road outside Hung-Chiao Airfield in the western part of Shanghai. Diplomatic negotiations, as usual, made no progress. The incident was used as an excuse by both sides, however, and a sharp increase was made in the forces. Eventually this resulted in the clash in Shanghai.”
Lt. Isao Oyama (27 years old), commander of the 1st Company of the Shanghai Special Naval Landing Force and 1st Seaman Yozo Saito were killed by (allegedly) members of the Chinese Peace Preservation Corps on Monument Road in the extension of the common concession at about 18:30 hours on 9 August 1937 (fact). It is still unknown whether Oyama attempted to enter the military airport there. But as it was told in Peter Harmsen’s book “Shanghai 1937: Stalingrad on the Yangtze” Zhang Fakui, the commander of the Chinese right wing, said the Japanese marines fell in a Chinese ambush and were killed, after that in order to simulate it was self-defense action, they brought a Chinese convicted to death dressed in military clothing and executed him with a shot in his neck.
The Japanese already controlled most of North China. The Imperial Japanese Army (IJA) was more concerned with the Soviet Union which they regarded as the primary military threat. The IJA had no desire at that time to expand the war into eastern and central China. It was hoped that a confrontation with the Japanese in Shanghai with it’s large international community and significant foreign business interests, would engender sympathy and support for the Chinese cause.
There were 30,000 Japanese civilians in Shanghai and considerable business interests, including a large number of factories and warehouses. When the Oyama incident occurred there were only about 300 Japanese SNLF troops guarding the Japanese interests in the city, but Zhang Zhizhong had approximately 30,000 KMT troops outside of town. If you were Japan would you provoke an incident at this time or wait until you had more troops on the ground?
In Moscow, Soviet Union, however, Soviet leader Joseph Stalin had a different design. He wanted to expand the Second Sino-Japanese War as quickly as possible in order to mire the Japanese Army in the vast Chinese interior, thus reducing the chance that Japan could divert its resources to attack Soviet Russia so that he could move West towards Europe. Until the powerful Japanese threat in the East was diverted elsewhere, he could not move towards Central and Western Europe. Through the 1930s, USSR had been planting agents in China, and what Chiang did not know was that Zhang Zhizhong was among them. To Chiang Kaishek, Shanghai was strategically important, for it guarded the mouth of the Yangtze River, upstream of which lay the capital city Nanjing, and it was a major industrial center. Chiang’s first attempt at safeguarding this city was to prevent the war from escalating to that location. Stalin, however, ordered the opposite, demanding Zhang to provoke the Japanese. Obeying Stalin’s orders, Zhang repeatedly sent Chiang plans for invasions into the Japanese zone in Shanghai, which was guarded by only 300 Special Naval Landing Forces troops with no sign of being reinforced in the future. Chiang rejected every request, and Zhang knew that the only way to achieve his orders from Moscow was to create a situation in which the Japanese would fire the first shot, so that he could advance without disobeying Chiang’s orders.
“Mao: The Unknown Story” Jung Chang and Jon Halliday, 2005
“..Zhang staged an incident outside Shanghai airport, where a Chinese army unit,which he himself specially stationed there, shot dead a Japanese marine lieutenant and a private. A Chinese prisoner under sentence of death was then dressed in Chinese uniform and shot dead at the airport gate, to make it seemed the Japanese had fired first.”Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
Yes but you don’t know is that the Chinese did alot other a–hole things under Chiang (in addition to CCP incitation):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinan_incident
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_incident_of_1927
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongzhou_mutiny
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hankou_incident
Zhang Xueliang’s father Zhang Zuolin spied for the Russians during Russo-Japanese War and went over to side of Japs after being captured. He was later liquidated by Kantogun who legitimately suspected him for flipping again to the side of Soviets.
Chiang was the same way with the frequent double-dealing.
Chinese troops with German helmets and weapons
Exactly, the Japanese knew about Sino-German cooperation, more extensive than their own with the Germans, and precisely wanted to avoid escalation.
Have you read Rana Mitter? He gave a very sympathetic perspective on Chiang, related to him being the most Indophilic amongst modern Chinese leaders. Its actually alot of Sinophilic Japanese who really don’t like Chiang.