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This story sounded too bad to be true, but it mostly checks out in the court documents. From the Washington Examiner:

Texas father blocked from stopping gender transition of son James, 7, to girl called Luna
by Ellie Bufkin
| October 21, 2019 09:56 PM

A jury in Texas returned a verdict on Monday that will prevent a Texas dad from intervening in the gender transition of his 7-year-old son.

Jeffrey Younger had petitioned a court in Texas to grant him sole custody of his twin sons, James and Jude, in part to avoid a plan to infuse James with female hormones. James, who would like to be called Luna, has been the center of controversy in the heated debate among his parents and others.

Anne Georgulas, the mother of the two boys, has advocated for James to transition into Luna and has strongly backed the idea of chemically castrating her son and beginning hormone replacement therapy. The ruling on Wednesday will prevent Jeffrey from having sole custody of his children and paves the way for Georgulas to proceed with the procedure.

The court has ruled that Georgulas will maintain sole custody of her two children and go forward with plans to give James life-altering medical procedures. Her original court filing had sought to limit her ex-husband’s visits with their children and require that he now refer to James as Luna. She further asked that Jeffrey not be exposed to any people who would not confirm [the term the mother uses is “affirm”] his female identity.

There is almost no coverage of this case outside of the right wing press.

When I first checked into it today, I found some amusing details in a previous court document annulling the marriage a few years ago. The mother, a pediatrician, claimed that before their marriage the (now) father had claimed to be a Ph.D. math student teaching math courses at a university and a retired career Marine and that these and some other whoppers showed he’d married her in bad faith before she kicked him out, after they had had twins, for not being the meal ticket he’d purported himself to be.

The judge agreed.

Of course, the mother, an M.D., fell for his stories (which sound like pretty run of the mill unsuccessful middle age man braggadocio and not at all hard to see thru). So they were probably well-suited for each other in terms of craziness.

So I figured the dad was strongly spinning his new story to the press.

But here are the court documents. For example, a letter from the mother’s lawyer to the father states that their custody agreement gives the mother exclusive right to pick therapists, so the father can’t get a second opinion about their child from a different doctor unless the mother and her hired therapist are confident that the second opinion will affirm that their son is a girl. He entitled to get a second opinion as long as it is the same opinion. Anything else would be non-affirming.

There is probably more to the story. Maybe, say, the father had previously given up any legal right to pick a therapist for his son in the custody agreement in return for some quid pro quo, such as the ex-wife dropping her demand he pay her back $45,000 for the truck she bought him — don’t cite this, I just made it up.

But the story as reported in the rightist press and ignored in the mainstream press seems more or less accurate.

 
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  1. So now instead of metaphorically castrating her ex-husband and the children by abusing the latter into sitting down when they pee—now the old witch is taking it one step further and literally castrating their child to punish both the father and his offspring.

    Talk about an evil head case.

    • Replies: @Cloudswrest
  2. Andrew says:

    The kids aren’t even the “mother’s” biological offspring. They used a donated egg and in-vitro fertilization.

  3. Luna

    This would usually suggest MtF typology 3 from your recent post, at least for adult males announcing new feminine names. Anime-character-like names are pretty much just for little kids, spergs, and little kid spergs, so there’s still a chance it’s too early to tell for this kid.

    But with kids, there’s also typology 4: being deliberately raised as a genderqueer trophy child for narcissistic parents.

  4. Anon[361] • Disclaimer says:

    There’s one straightforward rule. You should never be able to gender-assign a legal minor, and you cannot gender-assign yourself until you’re over 18. It’s should be like getting a tattoo. If it’s a permanent change, you have to be over 18. This is common sense.

  5. Wilkey says:

    The woman is a pediatrician, for God’s sake. Would any sane person want her to be their child’s doctor? If she loses enough patients perhaps she’ll cave.

    The failure to cover stories like this explains why politicians like Justin Trudeau (another country, I know, but still quite relevant) get re-elected. Donald Trump won because he isn’t afraid to call attention to left-wing crazies. Guys like Mitt Romney and John McCain and Andrew Scheer lose because they try to be gentlemen.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    , @Bill Jones
  6. syonredux says:

    Some women should not have children…..

  7. The thing I don’t get is that it was a jury, and in Dallas no less, that returned this verdict.

    How is that possible?

    • Replies: @Alden
  8. @Wilkey

    Guys like Mitt Romney and John McCain and Andrew Scheer lose because they try to be gentlemen.

    More importantly, they want to be liked by the liberals. During the recent Democrat debate, candidates were asked to name “a surprising friend.” Biden and Klobachur named McCain, as if it were be a surprise that a liberal would like McCain.

  9. Castrating a seven year old is pure evil. But in Clown World, trying to stop it is illegal.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
  10. Gaia is feminzing everything. As she turns up the heat, she is causing sea turtles to have mostly female offspring.

    • Replies: @SFG
  11. AKAHorace says:

    Steve,

    this is the social justice take on this affair. I have to confess that I did not watch the video to the end, but the guys take was for the child transitioning. It is a video that pharyngula pined to his website.

    https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2019/08/19/dismantling-a-right-wing-myth-about-transgender-children/

  12. @Andrew

    The kids aren’t even the “mother’s” biological offspring. They used a donated egg and in-vitro fertilization.

    Holy cow. So she’s abusing his children.

    We need to get back to biology and have laws that reflect biology.

    • Agree: jim jones
  13. Alden says:
    @Andrew

    Oh God, a donated egg.

    The only good thing is she’s a Dr. , not some total weirdo. Might be Maunchausen syndrome, create a sickly disabled child to be the brave admirable martyr parent. What a mess, their attorneys will make a fortune. Judge might appoint a taxpayer paid attorney for the boy as well.

    She’s a Dr, sounds like the husband was looking for a meal ticket.

    I remember a similar case of a horrible parent. Father was a militant atheist. Mom churchgoing. Dad brought Mom to court about 4 times a year trying to get an order the kid couldn’t go to church or say prayers at home, no religion books. Mom always won but it went in till the kid turned 18.

    I guess autistic kids are out of fashion. Tranny kids are the latest fashion

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    , @Gabe Ruth
    , @Bill
  14. Alden says:
    @candid_observer

    Are there juries in Texas Family Court? Not in most states.

  15. Hockamaw says:

    Terrifying if true. However, you’re right to be skeptical. Family court filings are total bullshit as often as not.

  16. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Harry Baldwin

    Guys like Mitt Romney and John McCain and Andrew Scheer lose because they try to be gentlemen.

    More importantly, they want to be liked by the liberals.

    More importantly, they actually are liberals. If you’re a Republican elected official you’re almost certainly a liberal. You’re just a liberal who believes the rich should pay less tax.

    They don’t lose because they try to be gentlemen. They are neoliberals so they are in fact on the winning side.

    The idea that Republicans are sincere, honest, patriotic decent guys who lose because they’re just too honourable for their own good is one of the saddest of all delusions.

    • Agree: JMcG
  17. @Alden

    According to the report:

    A jury in Texas returned a verdict on Monday that will prevent a Texas dad from intervening in the gender transition of his 7-year-old son.

    Maybe this isn’t true?

    • Replies: @Alden
  18. AnonAnon says:

    If this were my grandchild, I’d be considering going on the run with him to Mexico. That or taking out a hit on the mom. Now that I think about it, the hit sounds the way to go. The insane mom is gone and I’d have saved my grandson’s life.

    • Replies: @SFG
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    , @donut
  19. Anonymous[973] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    Jury dealt found the father not guilty of domestic abuse, by now a standard accusation in many dissolution cases.

    • Replies: @Alden
  20. bartolo1 says:

    Good News Bad News.

    Bad news first.

    https://www.thepostmillennial.com/breaking-jessica-yaniv-loses-cases-against-women-who-wouldnt-wax-her-balls

    Do not despair. .the good news.

    Luna, formerly 7 year old James, will not have to suffer the humiliation of being refused a ball waxing.

    Luna will not be hauling around that junk, sparing her/him/they/….(you get the picture)….the indignity of homophobic Nazi female Salon owners denying the request for a balls waxing. Strictly Brazilian

    Liz Warren make sure to bring Luna on stage at the next town hall, that will make quite the impression.

    • Replies: @nymom
  21. This is evil. I do not write to be corny, with spite and malice or sensationalism. It is Evil,; capital E. Depraved. Satan, Loki, Morgoth Evil. An abomination. Call me whackadoo and superstitious; Reality will not be defied.

    And thou, Melkor, shalt see that no theme may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me, nor can any alter the music in my despite. For he that attempteth this shall prove but mine instrument in the devising of things more wonderful, which he himself hath not imagined….

    Before the gates of Valmar in the Ring of Doom, Mandos said, “Thou speakest of thraldom. If thraldom it be, thou canst not escape it; for Manwe is King of Arda, and not of Aman only. And this deed was unlawful, whether in Aman or not in Aman…..

    Tears unnumbered ye shall shed; and the Valar will fence Valinor against you, and shut you out, so that not even the echo of your lamentation shall pass over the mountains. On the House of Fëanor the wrath of the Valar lieth from the West unto the uttermost East, and upon all that will follow them it shall be laid also. Their Oath shall drive them, and yet betray them, and ever snatch away the very treasures that they have sworn to pursue. To evil end shall all things turn that they begin well; and by treason of kin unto kin, and the fear of treason, shall this come to pass. The Dispossessed shall they be for ever….

    Ye have spilled the blood of your kindred unrighteously and have stained the land of Aman. For blood ye shall render blood, and beyond Aman ye shall dwell in Death’s shadow. For though Eru appointed to you to die not in Eä, and no sickness may assail you, yet slain ye may be, and slain ye shall be: by weapon and by torment and by grief; and your houseless spirits shall come then to Mandos. There long shall ye abide and yearn for your bodies, and find little pity though all whom ye have slain should entreat for you. And those that endure in Middle-earth and come not to Mandos shall grow weary of the world as with a great burden, and shall wane, and become as shadows of regret before the younger race that cometh after.

    “Shall I not punish them for these things?” declares the LORD. “On a nation such as this Shall I not avenge Myself?

    Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one,” Declares the Lord GOD of hosts, “For your day has come, The time when I will punish you.

    This will not end well for the Wicked.

    May God speed this man if he have the resources and resolve to do whatever it takes to spirit his child away to Russia or Chile or some such safe place, as Edward Snowden was able to do for himself. Or of not, may God have no mercy upon those defiling this innocent child.

  22. Is this the case where he kids aren’t even biologically related to the mom, meaning they’ve adopted or otherwise procured the kids to transition them?

    I think it was in vitro with egg donor. So they are creating kids to mutilate them. Ok!

  23. JimB says:

    I suspect this is a rogue bad legal opinion which will be successfully appealed.

  24. anon[223] • Disclaimer says:

    Someday this will be regarded as a form of torture far worse than the lobotomies of years ago. The long term effects of such drugs on overall health is pretty much unknown, but surely not good. Plus puberty blockers will prevent normal development of his penis, making the surgery to create a fake “vagina” wound channel just that much more difficult. He could wind up in a halfway transition state even worse than the usual M – F mutilation. Or he could just kill himself in 20 years more or less. That happens, and given that his status isn’t really his choice won’t help.

    Ya know, that “patriarchy” sure doesn’t seem to be as all-powerful as feminists claim it is.

  25. Whiskey says: • Website

    All woman jury? Sure I can see it. I warned you. That’s a typical White woman. Heck look at Trudeau’s victory. All from White women. A vapid rich pretty boy? Sure that’s White women for you.

  26. @Anon

    There’s one straightforward rule. You should never be able to gender-assign a legal minor, and you cannot gender-assign yourself until you’re over 18. It’s should be like getting a tattoo. If it’s a permanent change, you have to be over 18. This is common sense.

    I’m reasonably sure we could safely divide the country and go our separate ways on that one, alone.

    Like – you could have one side go off its own way on that point and say, “Yeah! that’s what we are about! Castrate sub-18 year olds if they want it OR if either parent wants it” and they go their way and it’s like “ta, bye bye, hope it works out for you (whispers under breath: but probably won’t)”.

    And the other side – goes its way – with your rule, as written, and we go on arguing about the economy, immigration, social security, foreign policy, and whatever we end up deciding, we’re probably gonna turn out OK.

  27. I wouldn’t worry about it.

    The kid will probably skin her alive when he gets to about 18 and realizes how she fucked him over.

  28. Roger says:

    Texas is the only state where a jury can make a child custody decision. I would have thought that this fact would make Texas the least likely state to make a decision like this.

    This country is in worse shape than I thought.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
    , @GU
  29. We are living through a climate change. But decommissioning coal plants ain’t goin’ to change a thing, ’cause the change is in humans.

  30. @syonredux

    There has to be zero tolerance for this.

    The man on the left, Michael Alig, is an infamous NYC club kid murderer from the 1990’s.

  31. Sometimes women go full Medea. Just the way things are. If the courts weren’t there, she’d use some other method.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @Rob
  32. Mr. Anon says:

    I’ve heard of parents who use their children as weapons in thier guerilla war against their estranged spouses, but this harpie takes first prize. It’s kind of the ultimate F-U to her ex: to turn his son into a “she”.

    She should be charged with child abuse. So should the judge in the case.

  33. Anon[348] • Disclaimer says:

    This is pure evil. I just don’t know how any mother can do this to a 7 year old child. A 7 year old is clearly not old enough to decide for himself what he wants to be. That mother should have her pediatrician license suspended, and the child should be taken away from her.

    Our entire sex ed in middle and high school is pure lunacy. They are teaching our kids that if they are lonely, do not feel like they fit in with other kids, or like to do things kids of their gender don’t typically like to do, then they could be gay or transgender!! It borderlines child abuse as these lonely teens were probably already insecure enough about their changing bodies, now our schools are adding to their self-doubt and anxiety and probably encouraging other kids to start rumors about them. No wonder so many young kids are now self-identifying as gay or transgender, and suicide rate among youth is at an all time high. The left will not be happy until they turn all our kids gay or transgender, and they are doing this through our schools by mentally and emotionally abusing our kids with this kind of sex ed garbage, and making them read all those sick, dark, twisted modern lit garbage in English curriculum.

    I have never hated the left so much until my kids started school. Now I absolutely despise them. Leftism must die for America to survive!

    • Agree: jim jones
  34. Surely if we just vote the right way it’ll put an end to this!

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  35. anon[372] • Disclaimer says:

    Castrating 7 year old boys, the arguments being floated by the Left defending pedophilia – children are the next big target for these people. They won’t quit until they have the right to rape, sacrifice and eat children.

    • Agree: Alden
  36. @Anon

    Same should go for circumcision. Try to get that one passed. Iceland, a nation of people who do not normally engage in that practice, has been trying and running into all the predictable outrage.

  37. I wish I could say this was shocking but unfortunately this is simply more evidence of the degeneracy to which the culture has succumbed. This woman is committing child abuse of the most grievous kind. And an insane and immoral legal system is helping her do it.

    • Agree: TTSSYF, Hail
  38. Pithy comments aside, there is a desperation among conservatives, especially those who have put their faith in “Muh Constitution” and “Muh Democracy” to sort everything out, that this shouldn’t be happening but it is. And they realise can’t do anything about it without the full force of the state coming down on them!

    Some like Matt Walsh are tip toeing around fedposting, even as they realise the Ruff Tuff Texas that they think is a bastion of individual rights is 1000% more likely to send the Texas Rangers to stop them from halting an irreversible procedure on a 7 year old versus sending the Rangers to stop what is a gross breach of morality.

    And that’s what happens when you box yourself in with legalese and submitting to the kritarchy: Judge Woke Medusa decides your son is gonna be a girl and you’re going to like it. No wonder the Conservative Grifters are too busy tweeting about LOWEST BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT EVER. BOOM!.

    This is the sort of thing that lays the rot of current society bare, as well as exposes the fact conservatives have conserved absolutely nothing, but you have to vote for them so an unelected mandarin can order your kid put on hormone blockers, legally.

    • Replies: @Alden
  39. @Buzz Mohawk

    Well, circumcision is normal compared to changing your kid’s sex. It was done to me under the “less painful now than if you do it after the foreskin is infected” logic. The Jews, doing it soon after birth, is better than the Moslems doing at 6.
    Then there is the opening page of the classic WW2 memoir Helmut For My Pillow. Robert Leckie was going to boot camp, having just been circumcised as a requirement to enter the Marine Corps.

  40. And then suddenly, for no reason at all, people voted for…

  41. @Buzz Mohawk

    C’mon alt right, let’s do this. “Stop Mutilating Babies. Ban Circumcision on Infants”. It’s a simple message. It makes logical sense. It can be compared to the already widespread bans of FGM. It would expose all ((their)) hypocrisy. This needs to become a meme.

    • Agree: Ash Williams
    • LOL: IHTG
  42. @Anon

    You can’t even legally drink a single beer – a very low alcohol and probably rice based brewed beverage with some useful b vitamins. – until you’re 21 years old. Why do you get to flood your body with life transforming chemicals at age 11?

    • Agree: BB753
  43. @Harry Baldwin

    During the recent Democrat debate, candidates were asked to name “a surprising friend.”

    The simple fact that that was a question in a national Presidential campaign debate on TV, tells us that the politics and dialogue on the left has become feminine and emotive in nature.

  44. eah says:

    There is almost no coverage of this case outside of the right wing press. … When I first checked into it today,…

    This case has been known for a while; I first saw at least a year ago — it has gotten some coverage (not just in the “right wing press”, whatever that is), perhaps not much in the “Judeo-Christian” mainstream.

    The appeals court decision confirming the annulment certainly hints that re “fraud”, it was mostly “he said, she said” — the court found the woman more credible — in the decision I did not see much evidence that proof of the “fraud” was ever offered — the exact language:

    Younger denied Georgulas’s allegations, and in some cases testified to the contrary. However, the trial court is the sole judge of the credibility of the witness and t was permitted to believe Georgulas’s testimony and reject Younger’s testimony.

    As everyone knows, in matters related to marriage dissolution and custody, courts often give the benefit of any doubt to the mother.

    While somewhat salacious, none of that is especially relevant to the woman’s intent to transition the boy.

    As stated, the boys are not biologically related to the mother — the language about ‘affirming’ gender identity comes from the GENECIS = GENder Education and Care Interdisciplinary Support Clinic at Childrens Hospital in Dallas –> link — but don’t worry, everything is being handled by “experts” there: “Founded in 2015, the GENECIS Program at Children’s Health℠, is the largest program in the Southwest with a multi-specialty team of experts.”

    Matt Walsh tweeted about the case today — people who still think co-existence with these people is possible should scroll thru this Twitter thread.

    • Replies: @eah
    , @Bitfu
  45. @Harry Baldwin

    John McCain.

    Brilliant example for an officer and a gentleman.

    And by the way, where I come from, if your employer puts “he tried” in your job reference that means he is seriously annoyed with your failure.

  46. Moses says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Biden and Klobachur named McCain

    Good answer. Dead men don’t talk.

  47. El Dato says:
    @Clifford Brown

    Is this a movie by the Coen Brothers?

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  48. @WowJustWow

    MSM entertainment/propaganda is thoroughly pervasive in our society.

    And this is where the rubber meets the road:

    A jury in Texas returned a verdict

    Where do people on juries get their crazy ideas?

    • Replies: @Ash Williams
  49. Actually went through a little of this madness with my youngest daughter.She used to always want to be a boy,now me and mama figured this was most likely because she has a pretty cool brother who is bout a year older and gets alot of positive attention from non family members.
    If you asked her why she wanted to be a boy she would say because boys are fast, strong and awesome which pretty well describes big bro.
    Me and mama didnt think this was necessarily a family crisis and more likely something shed grow out of. We had her wear long hair and did nothing to encourage the boy ambitions although when she’d wear some of her brothers shirts and shorts we didnt make an issue of it either.
    Well between kindergarden and first grade i get a call from our daughters kindergarden teacher wanting to have a meeting.This is a nice white lady who i believe genuinely liked our daughter but i suspected some nonsense was awaiting.
    So mama and i go in and its her kindergarden and upcoming first grade gal….two nice white ladies.Sure enough we are there to talk gender identity.
    We explained to these two well meaning white ladies that God made our child a girl and thats how we were gonna raise her and if she still feels that way when shes 18 she can do whatever the fuck she wants but we are not gonna make these decisions coming out of kindergarden.
    Now four years later best as we can tell shes a pretty normal little girl who still idolizes her brother when they arent fighting.

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @aajj
  50. Lot says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    4% of the female population of London have had their clitori removed.

  51. But the story as reported in the rightist press and ignored in the mainstream press seems more or less accurate.

    Wow, I couldn’t have seen that coming. Sometimes narrative is not powerful enough to overcome omission, but only if it is narrative from the Right.

  52. 4% of the female population of London have had their clitori removed.

    Clitoridēs. Antepenultimate stress, as with the singular.

    • Replies: @Lot
  53. Lot says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Somewhat related Islamophobic Seinfeld episode:

    “ Jerry is dating this attractive woman whose name he cannot remember, though she told him her name rhymes with a part of the female anatomy. He spends the episode avoiding the use of her name, and trying to find ways to ascertain it, including digging in her purse and having his friends stop by, hoping she will introduce herself. Jerry and George try to guess the name, with choices of Bovary, Mulva, Loreola, Celeste, Hest and Gipple. She finally realizes Jerry doesn’t know her name, and breaks up with him, leaving his apartment in a huff.”

  54. Bill P says:

    It’s easy to blame the guy for not fighting for joint custody, but if you’ve been through it yourself it’s understandable, especially if you’re facing a determined adversary.

    I’m going to assume that a woman who made it through med school, became an MD, and took the trouble to conceive with donor eggs can summon the willpower and energy to make a guy’s life a living hell. Especially if he’s the kind of chump who makes up stories about himself to pick up middle-aged women.

    I successfully obtained joint custody of my oldest two kids, including major medical. Of course, that was after a SWAT raid, two child abuse investigations, being called a potential rapist and murderer (among other unpleasant things), having my bank account seized, losing my job and being on the verge of a nervous breakdown for about two years. This was the work of one ruthless, vindictive middle-aged housewife: my former mother-in-law. You’d have to read Shakespeare or Njall’s Saga to get a sense of the hatred and depravity some people are capable of.

    As a fundamental social reform, it must be made clear that, barring some severe mental or moral (criminal) defect, parents shall have joint custody of their children upon separation. So the guy’s a loser, the woman’s a bitch, whatever — you had kids with that person. You’re both responsible for raising the kids.

    It’s a checks and balances thing. It forces people to cooperate and takes away the incentive to use the kids as weapons and destroy the other parent. It’s the basis of Christian marriage.

    Without this presumption, you get these kinds of problems, which run all the way from this loony couple to Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie with their own mixed up kids.

    After all I went through, I have a very close, loving relationship with all my kids, and they all love each other and their mothers and grandparents, so it’s worth it in the long run. For most of us, being a parent is the most important job we’ll ever have, so don’t stress too much about the other things. Maybe it sounds a bit sappy, but I’ve come to see this familial love as a little bit of divine grace in my life.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    , @eah
  55. eugyppius says:

    The father’s blog (https://savejames.com/blog/) is illuminating. From the latest post:

    James has expressed his wishes to social workers. He wants to present as a girl with his “mother”, and James wants to present as a boy with his father. […] James presents as a boy with his mother, also. He wears boys clothes and doesn’t hide or have any issues presenting as a boy at her home.

    Abundant photos of James playing like a boy while being dressed as a boy accompany the post. Two things:

    1) Especially in this context, Jeff Younger should not be putting pictures of his kid on the internet.

    2) If one were to trust Jeff Younger, though, one could do worse than assume the boy is experiencing something like persuasion or even pressure from his mother to be a girl; and that when he’s away from the maternal environment he just behaves normally.

    • Replies: @jimmyriddle
  56. @WowJustWow

    There is a Harry Potter character of that name – a scoolgirl who is an incipient crazy cat lady.

    Maybe she reminded the boy of his mother.

  57. TTSSYF says:
    @Bill P

    Very nice comment, and I agree completely. I’ve seen my brother go through 20 years of hell with his aggressive, vindictive, drug-addicted, con-artist ex-wife (and there are even more adjectives I could use to describe her). There is so much lunacy and sickness in our society that I do in fact wonder how much longer it goes on.

  58. @Lot

    And then Jerry remembers her name: Dolores.

    Doesn’t work on the right-hand side of the pond. The pronunciation over here is shown by these lines from a rude song sung by the rugby enthusiasts at my college years ago:

    If you wonder what the glitter is,
    It’s the moonlight on her clitoris.

  59. @eugyppius

    A few years ago, in England, a boy was removed from a mother, who was raising him as a girl. As soon as started living with his father he started playing with Power Rangers and trucks and reverted to being a happy boy.

    But 2016 was a long time ago in World War T.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/custody-boy-living-as-girl-with-mother-awarded-to-father-high-court-judge-a7374761.html

  60. eah says:
    @Bill P

    …can summon the willpower and energy to make a guy’s life a living hell.

    This seems to have been rather calculated — if you read the appellate decision confirming the annulment (link), the timeline ran like this: married on 05 Dec 2010; she was already the sole parent of two adopted girls; twin boys conceived with his sperm and donor eggs born in 2012; she says she asked him to move out in Feb 2015; he moved out in Apr 2015; she filed for divorce on 21 May 2015; well more than a year later, on 10 Oct 2016, she filed an amended petition for divorce, this time requesting an annulment, claiming fraud and theft.

    I am not a lawyer; were there distinct advantages for her in amending the petition to accuse him of fraud and theft and request an annulment? — one would think so — but it seems rather calculated, and no doubt done on the advice and with the cooperation/connivance of her lawyer

    • Replies: @Alden
  61. eah says:
    @eah

    … people who still think co-existence with these people is possible should scroll thru this Twitter thread.

    The ‘co-exist with these people’ part includes so-called “conservatives”, and goes for Trump and his ilk too — none of them seem/are willing to stand up to this kind of insanity.

    “If you’re a conservative and you’re mad, understand this. The Nazis burned down Magnus Hirschfeld’s Institute for Sexual Research in 1933. The GOP is allowing a 7 year old boy to be castrated and medically experimented on while Trump calls for exporting LGBT ideology worldwide.”

  62. KL says:

    “Ph.D. math student teaching math courses at a university[was] not being the meal ticket”

    I stood in long lines at nightclubs while math Ph.D.’s wearing pocket protectors got bottle-service tables. Hot babes flocked to those meal-ticket math guys, ignoring all the nice hedge fund managers.

  63. Anon[280] • Disclaimer says:

    Any hints of Munchausen by proxy?

  64. @Redneck farmer

    the classic WW2 memoir Helmut For My Pillow.

    I think you’re confusing it with German gay porn.

    • LOL: Colin Wright
  65. @Mr McKenna

    Where do people on juries get their crazy ideas?

    Most people of average intelligence hate jury duty, and those living paycheck to paycheck literally can’t afford to serve.

    This is by design.

    Those that are left are subject to the jury selection process, which a good lawyer can use to his favor. You can easily end up with 12 people with low-IQ living off welfare who are easily manipulated.

    • Replies: @Walsh2
  66. @Wilkey

    The person who society selects, pays and relies upon to preserve sanity in situations like this is the Judge.

    I would like to see a concerted campaign of public outrage against the Judge in this case and whoever appointed her (I assume it identifies as female) to the bench.

  67. @Redneck farmer

    Well, circumcision is normal compared to changing your kid’s sex. It was done to me under the “less painful now than if you do it after the foreskin is infected” logic. The Jews, doing it soon after birth, is better than the Moslems doing at 6.

    What’s better is not reducing your children’s genitals at all, and also not advocating for it being done to others, in order to justify and make seem “normal” your own reduced genital set.

    If you want to reduce your own genital set, have at it. But do not advocate for cutting out the genitals of babies who have no say in the matter. But actually they do get a say: which is why they scream: which is why they are “done” in specially built sound proofed rooms: so that their screams of pain and horror, do not frighten the customers.

    [ And no sic on the phrasing of “cutting out the genitals“ — the glans penis in baby boys is an internal organ, and which status as internal organ will naturally last up to age 20. The foreskin unmolested will not retract in some instances, for up to 20 years: this is relevant because the un-retracted foreskin in boys has often been used as the reason for cutting it off. ]

    140 MILLION American baby boys had their genitals cut out, and LITERALLY fed to rats, in the form of hospital garbage. This particular detail stuck in the craw of Dr Christopher Guest, MD, who remarked upon how the biowaste from this ritual, the baby’s genitals, what he witnessed is that they were thrown in the trash w/o so much the respect as a trash bag marked biowaste.

    Admit the Mistake, or forever be a dupe. Or to put it another way: grow a set and acknowledge the realities of what you are advocating: reducing the genitals of babies, so that your own don’t stick out as the mutilated freak show that they are.

    What do you think the Latin Lover Mystique, that meme from the second-half of the 20th century, was really about?

    Did you know that French women refer to American men as sexual cripples, on account of their compromised technique?

    Do a study and judge by the faces — only the faces — of men and women in sexual congress, and see which are enjoying “natural sex” and which are working with reduced genitals.

  68. Alden says:
    @candid_observer

    Ok. Texas Family Court uses juries. That’s unusual. It’s a bad idea for several reasons. First juries can be idiots. Second, Family Court is supposed to be private. Third Judges are familiar with the BS of Family Court. They know both parties can be hysterical, make false accusations.

    The Mother must have presented witnesses claiming to be “ experts” in gender re assignment. The jury listened to their bogus qualifications and experience and publications and believed the BS

    I suspect this is a test case for re assignment. I suspect all the “experts” came from that Dallas hospital interdisciplinary group.

    It’s a test case. The liberals won as they always do.

    A precedent has been set. Every case like this will use this precedent from now on. So there will be more and more cases like this. I wonder if Mom paid her attorneys or if she’s represented by some hustling grant grifting Legal Foundation?

    Expect TV ADs on late night TV from gender re assignment attorneys. Disappointed you don’t have a girl? We can help you turn your boy into girl.

    Words fail.

  69. Alden says:
    @Anonymous

    Was that the annulment case or the custody gender case? Or both?

  70. @Bill Jones

    I’d say the judge, Kim Cooks, isn’t going to be real worried about public criticism, she does bikini modeling on instagram: https://www.instagram.com/judgekimcooks/?hl=en

  71. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Jack Henson

    Surely if we just vote the right way it’ll put an end to this!

    If only it were possible to get a Republican into the White House, or maybe get a Republican majority in both the House and the Senate. Then all this craziness would be stopped instantly.

  72. @dfordoom

    More importantly, they actually are liberals.

    Yeah. That, too.

  73. The poor guy could solve his problem for about ten cents

    ( -_・) ︻デ═一 ▸

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  74. Alden says:
    @eah

    Maybe an annulment meant he has no joint property rights to her earnings and assets acquired during the marriage? Since she’s a Dr her earnings would be substantial. Annulment would probably mean no alimony for the husband.

    She probably filed for divorce. Attorney investigated and there was proof of husband’s fraud about his education and finances at time of marriage. So they went for an annulment to save her from having to divide assets.

    A friend had a whirlwind romance and marriage. The man, husband had massive debts. A year later he wanted a divorce. Under community property law each would be responsible for half the debt. Even though he acquired the debts before the marriage.

    He filed for divorce. Her response asked for an annulment. She got the annulment. He got his debts. Grounds for the annulment his fraud about his debts before the marriage.

    He was a very wealthy attorney by the way. Some of his debts were re payment of embezzlement from his firm and theft from client’s funds.

  75. @Alden

    “She’s a Dr, sounds like the husband was looking for a meal ticket.”

    Not necessarily.

    When I was dating, after my first wife and I had divorced, I came across a goodly number of well-established women who had been “overlooked” in the post-college, marriage draft. These free agents were willing to sign with any team that would give them a serious look. More than one promised to carry on working at her job if I would be willing to stay at home and look after the offspring they hungered for. As lawyers, nurses and engineers they had as good or better earning potential than I did, so I could see how a certain type of man would be tempted by this kind of situation.

    It may not be so much that he was looking for a meal ticket as that in her desperation she made a hormone-driven, hasty decision. Actually, all she wanted was his sperm anyway, so once she had kids and a moment to reflect, she realized that she didn’t need him at all and gave him the boot. Castrating his spawn was, as others have remarked, the final flourish, pointedly forcing him to confront his essential uselessness.

    • Replies: @Alden
  76. Bitfu says:
    @eah

    I did scroll through that twitter feed, and it’s exactly what I thought. What awful people.

  77. @Lot

    In the original script, the name is Cloris, but during the warmup one of the audience members guessed Delores. Jerry liked that better, so he changed the line.

  78. @Suburban_elk_99

    Please stop with this hijack. No one cares.

  79. PhDs with a previous career in the military are fewer than transgenders, Blacks, First Nation affiliates, and any other minority de jour. If there’s one, you’ll hear about him until the cows come home.

    This is not the Vietnam era. There is no draft and the people who join the Western militaries have it quite well. As such, there are no significant demos in the West against wars. In fact, big research universities are making good money “researching” for the military. The idea that fellow students would give a hard time to a former marine turned grad student is absurd.

    The main reason why big schools have to trumpet any former-military type is that there are so few of them. At least in US and France, military is just a form of social care for the muscly with small brains, keeping them away from big cities and giving them opportunities to satisfy their need to kill. But small brains don’t get maths.

    So why would a woman, and one who works with the public at large, would believe that a small-brain marine became a mathematician with a PhD? Is she stupid? Was she deceiving herself? Is it even possible for a physician to consider anyone who is not a JD or MD a “meal ticket”? Just how much do maths PhDs make these days? Because Texas pediatricians average 160K.

    My guess is that the woman is completely mental. She is doing to her child the sort of things she has done to herself by marrying that guy. Something a nutcase would do as an extreme virtue display. Typical virtue displays are limited to words devoid of consequences for the speaker.

    But, in some ways, she is not much more deranged than the Western society at large. This story mirrors the macro bedtime stories Americans believe about the war in the Middle East. For example, in Iraq, according to Wikipedia, Bush signed the withdrawal agreement in 2008, and Obama achieved it in 2011. Since 2011, it’s been “civil war”, with Iraqis fighting each other, and Americans staying away. Perhaps those tens of thousands of GIs in Baghdad’s Green Zone are working towards their PhDs.

  80. AndrewR says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    The ADL openly threatened Iceland with full spectrum Jewish destruction should they choose to ban optional infant dick mutilation.

    Then again after their disgusting LGBTP trolling of Pence (whom I admittedly detest) during his recent visit, maybe Iceland deserves the ADL teabagging.

    Full disclosure: Pence had caused extreme insult to Iceland with the absurd logistics of his visit https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/09/05/iceland-can-barely-believe-pences-security-detail/amp/

    • Agree: Alden
  81. @ScarletNumber

    Please stop with this hijack. No one cares.

    She does.

    And her:

    Women who care about men boys babies. Hey, it’s a start.

  82. @Clifford Brown

    The only thing worse than a war is a massacre, and a massacre of children is the worst kind.

    Counterinsurgency

  83. Gabe Ruth says:
    @Bill Jones

    When Ann tweeted her picture, and the fact that it had not been linked in this thread yet disturbs me.

  84. @Driveby Commenter

    Not a perfect rhyme, but I like “hit-or-miss”.

    Add this to dyslectic and anorectic to the list of medical terms American pop culture has ruined.

  85. nymom says:
    @bartolo1

    One small note: it seems a little strange that a ‘highly religious’ person from any community would pick as a part-time side job waxing women or mens’ pubic area in their home and with their kids in the house no less…

    Aren’t there other part-time jobs for stay-at-home moms in Canada.

    Strange.

  86. @Ron Mexico

    “Delores!”

    Besides the fact that Jerry (intentionally?) has the wrong pronunciation, you have the wrong spelling. The one used by blacks and Scandinavian-Americans who turn it into take French. (As blacks and Jews turn Maurice into real French.)

    It’s Dolores, from the Spanish for “sorrows” . As in Our Lady of the Sorrows.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    , @syonredux
  87. Gabe Ruth says:
    @Alden

    The mom planning on transitioning her son is prominently wearing a cross necklace on her professional website. Very curious to me.

    • Replies: @BB753
  88. JMcG says:
    @Whiskey

    When you’re right you’re right. Poor kid.

  89. @dfordoom

    Back when I was in Washington I used to talk to people in the apartment lounge, where there was a TV. We had some leftist crazies, and they were always personable. Lying through their teeth because they were trying for a new convert, but personable. The Republican types were either isolated or, if working for a conservative think thank, were “shut up and sit down” arrogant fool types (and I tone my real observations down considerably).

    The idea that Republicans are sincere, honest, patriotic decent guys who lose because they’re just too honourable for their own good is one of the saddest of all delusions.

    Well, the isolated ones (no power) probably were. Those plugged into the establishment were, as you say, liberals only more arrogant ( “I represent corporate thought, I am infallible”).

    This next paragraph uses plain English rather then liberal speak. It describes the current situation in terms ordinarily used to describe Classical civilizations [1].

    The important thing, the one thing that cannot be changed, is that the cities are going down. They are not economically productive, so can’t keep their infrastructure maintained, and they are losing political influence so quickly that they are reliant on importation of foreigners who hate liberals. Nobody and nothing can save them, most especially not their recent plan to simply enslave the Whites until the Whites can be replaced with Han Chinese and dot Indians [2].

    Counterinsurgency

    1] “Classical civilizations” are those around the Mediterranean Sea during the time interval roughly from recovery from the Bronze Age Collapse until the end of the Western Roman Empire.

    2] Of course, the Western Roman Empire actually did replace much of the Italian population with slaves and immigrants after the Punic Wars. The soldiers given land by their Imperator found that, much as they liked to farm, they couldn’t earn a living competing with slaves. They typically sold the land they were given, usually to aristocrat owned plantations. So the analogous liberal plan could succeed, although the liberals themselves would be destroyed in the process by the Han and dot Indian immigrants. Sic friatur crustulum.

  90. @ScarletNumber

    Please stop with this hijack. No one cares.

    If you don’t care about what was done to American baby boys, without their consent and against their will — then YOU be quiet.

    But if on the other hand you would censure others, then I offer the following as an explanation for your stated, and laughably false, opinion: In fair disclosure, have you caused or participated, directly or indirectly, in any baby boy ever, having had his genitals cut out and reduced?

    Because if not, then what concern is it to you, that those who were done, would now protest against it, what was done them and against their will.

    Perhaps you have a son? Did you allow his genitals to be cut out?

  91. @Reg Cæsar

    Considering the dialogue is heard, not written, I wouldn’t say that one is right and one is wrong.

  92. @Whiskey

    It wasn’t a complete Trudeau victory. My cousin who “was” a staunch liberal did not vote for the turd this time. Several years ago we got into an “arguement” over alot of things. She said she couldn’t get into these types of arguements because I was in too deep and have a great deal invested in the science , statistics and facts. She watched TYT and Bill Maher among other left wing type shows.. Then I told her to come here (UNZ). Now we can have a “conversation”. Thank you Unz. Now if only I could get her to stop her wacko, goth teen daughter from wanting to fly to California to meet her online black boyfriend. We havent really spoke too much about it. There is work to be done .we can’t save everyone..

  93. Walsh2 says:
    @Ash Williams

    You’re wrong on this one – As a court officer working my way through law school I saw well over a hundred jury trials and listened to deliberations through my post at the jury room door. Outside of two examples to the contrary, every jury I dealt with took their duty seriously and did their job well.

    • Replies: @Ash Williams
  94. Alden says:
    @Jack Henson

    Wasn’t the judge. It was the jury. Juries in Family Court is the worst thing possible. Texas is the only state that has juries in Family Court. Hope it doesn’t spread to the other states.

    Jury obviously believed Mom’s expert witnesses against Dad’s expert witnesses.

    • Replies: @Jack Henson
  95. Alden says:
    @Bill Jones

    Wasn’t the judge. It was the jury who heard the facts of the case and decided the mom’s “expert “ witnesses were right and the dad’s “expert” witnesses were wrong.

    In jury trials the judge has to rule or issue orders according to the verdict. In this case, the parents had a jury trial over their argument as to what a 7 year old would wear every other weekend. Little girls wear pants all the time. Maybe parents could compromise. Jeans with a white yellow red pastel green or blue simple uni sex T shirt?

  96. Alden says:
    @Suburban_elk_99

    Exactly how does one study the faces of people engaged in sexual Congress? How does one find the subjects? Ask friends and relatives? Find the money to fund medical research, rent an office pay research assistants and subjects?
    Pay volunteers?

    • Replies: @Random Smartaleck
  97. @Whiskey

    Off topic, Whiskey, but there’s a movie out (The Current Wars) about the DC/AC controversy between Thomas Edison on the one hand and George Westinghouse and Nicolas Tesla on the other. Whether it is a good movie, I cannot say; the critics don’t like it but I haven’t seen audience reaction figures. I think I remember reading in one of your posts that such a movie would never be made. Any comment?

  98. SFG says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    There are going to be some very lucky male sea turtles.

    Seriously, this is a ‘thing’, as the kids say–in reptiles and fish. Females will dominate either at higher or both higher and lower temperatures (with males dominating intermediate).

    My best guess is in ‘extreme’ conditions you want to produce more females since they’re more likely to reproduce at least once, but the scientists seem stumped.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature-dependent_sex_determination

  99. SFG says:
    @dfordoom

    I personally would say ‘wealthy Republicans tend to be in favor of progressive social arrangements even if they want to lower taxes on the rich’–‘left’ and ‘right’ are realigning right now.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  100. SFG says:
    @AnonAnon

    You’re now wanted on a murder rap.

    And if it fails (as is likely–most people other than organized crime figures don’t have the connections or expertise to get away with murder for hire), a rich and angry lady now knows you tried to kill her and has an easy time painting you as the bad guy.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Anonymousse
    , @Alden
  101. The transcript of the school hearing yields the following gem (testimony of Georgulas) “How long ago was that picture taken on your website of James? It was January of 2017, when James–before Luna–he was only known as James. So at the time that picture was taken ,he didn’t call herself Luna?”

  102. I am suing my wife to demand that our daughters (7,11) be given testosterone injections and penis and testicle implants. I am also seeking an injunction to forbid her from sending them to school in dresses, putting ribbons in their hair, or allowing them to ride bicycles without a crossbar.

    For some reason my wife is not happy about this, but she will have to get used to it. She used to say she would like a son, so this kills two birds with one stone, and they will never become pregnant.

  103. @Alden

    The judge has made a series of rulings before this one. You’re hair splitting

    • Replies: @Alden
  104. dfordoom says: • Website
    @SFG

    I personally would say ‘wealthy Republicans tend to be in favor of progressive social arrangements even if they want to lower taxes on the rich’–‘left’ and ‘right’ are realigning right now.

    Yes. In fact ‘left’ and ‘right’ started realigning in the 60s. The process is now almost complete, to the point where such terms are almost entirely meaningless.

    Both sides are now neoliberals. The Republicans (and their equivalents in other Anglosphere countries) are just the slightly nastier neoliberals.

    If you define the Left as people who want a fairer distribution of wealth and some amelioration of the more destructive side-effects of capitalism then there are no Leftist parties today. And if you define communists as people who want actual socialism there are virtually no communists in politics today. At best there are neoliberals who think it would be wise to throw the poor a few extra scraps.

    • Replies: @anon
  105. Hail says: • Website

    Anne Georgulas, the mother of the two boys, has advocated for James to transition into Luna and has strongly backed the idea of chemically castrating her son

    This is Anne Georgulas:

    Life portrait of Anne Georgulas

    Career US military father of Greek, Ellis Island-era origin; Appalachia-origin mother; some of formative period in Hawaii; has attended an Orthodox church in Texas.

    – June 1963: Born. Four other siblings. Her father is George Georgulas (1932-2000, raised in Baltimore), a career US military figure and Vietnam veteran of Greek-Orthodox ancestry (via New York City circa the late 19th or early 20th century). Mother is Virginia nee Adams (1935-2011), of West Virginia; Virginia was not raised a Lutheran but became one in the 1980s; became an ELCA-Lutheran pastor in her 50s; her obituary describes her as an “advocate for progressive social justice”;
    1960s and 1970s: Anne spends much of her formative period in Hawaii (father’s military deployment), e.g., brother George graduated from Leilehua High School in 1972; Anne’s mother was installed as pastor of Calvary-by-the-Sea Lutheran Church in Honolulu in 1991;
    – Probably by the late 1970s at latest: Anne is Texas, where she attends college in the 1980s (Trinity University, San Antonio) and has been ever since;
    1991: Earns MD, UT Health Science Center, San Antonio;
    1992: Married (age 28) for the first time in Dallas (later divorced, year unknown);
    1997: Anne opens a pediatric practice in Coppell, Texas (ca. 81% White non-Hispanic, 9% Asian, 7% Hispanic, 3% Black on the 2000 census) which continues operation today;
    2010: Anne (about age 46) marries Jeff Younger, whom she met at their Orthodox Church in the 2000s;
    2012: Anne’s husband’s twin sons are born (donated egg) via IVF;
    – ca. 2015: Jeff and Anne separate, later divorce. About this time, the wife says she begins to observe female behaviors in her son.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Hail
  106. @AnonAnon

    Not that I condone any of that kind of behavior, but why not both? And make it the Philippines instead of Mexico.

    Sick, sick stuff here. I hope the Dad wins on appeal or does take care of this via other means.

  107. @Reg Cæsar

    Can you lighten the hell up for one time, Reg? That episode was hilarious!

    “Well, I really think I’m falling for you … [searches frantically for a name in the play guide] …Joseph Puglia

    They took this theme to the ultimate – I’ve had acquaintances whose names I’d asked twice about, and I hadn’t make enough mental effort to get them. After that, you feel worse and worse about asking again. I wish it had been a girl this hot – Jerry got so many hot girls, and then he dumps em because they eat their peas one at at time and stuff. Life’s not fair!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  108. @Suburban_elk_99

    As a sexual cripple, I embrace my victimhood and heartily endorse the notion of reparations for the circumcised. I deserve pity, compassion, immunity from social responsibility, and a hefty cash settlement. If you say something I don’t like, I will destroy your career and ruin your life.

    I will be adding a chapter on this outrage to my upcoming book, Mommie Dearest II: The Bitch Is Back.

    • Replies: @Suburban_elk_99
  109. Hail says: • Website
    @Stan Adams

    I thought posting pictures of minor was generally not done. But the Daily Mail is doing it. And the father himself has done it all over his personal blog.

    In any case, note that the son’s t-shirt there has an Orthodox cross on it. Both parents are Orthodox, and churchgoers, and at church is in fact where they met. See life profile of Anne’s Georgulas, above, for other details I found on Anne’s life.

    Her desire for a military husband, which ex-husband Jeff insinuated he was, may be because her own father was career military. Anne appears to have been an “army brat.”

  110. @R.G. Camara

    So now instead of metaphorically castrating her ex-husband and the children by abusing the latter into sitting down when they pee—now the old witch is taking it one step further and literally castrating their child to punish both the father and his offspring.

    And indirectly castrating the father by blocking his genetic interest in his offspring. The “mother” herself is suffering no such loss as the kid is not biologically hers. Talk about a ball buster …

    I heard that back in the old days children sacrificed to Moloch were often adopted. Some things never change.

    Also … “Every single time.”

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  111. Sam Coulton [AKA "S. M. Coulton"] says:
    @Roger

    No. Texas has always been a feminist matriarchal shithole, like the rest of tbe South.

  112. A significant number of you are going full Boomer and saying “WELL A JURY SAID” as if legalese was the highest moral benchmark of the land.

    “AS LONG AS THEY LEGALLY TAKE OUR GUNS”

    “AS LONG AS THEY LEGALLY PUT US ON TRAINS”

    “AS LONG AS THEY LEGALLY TURN MY SON INTO A GIRL”

    If only the BQ got as much traction as the JQ around here.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  113. @Reg Cæsar

    Sorry, that reply should have been to your next comment (#85, subject to change) in reply to Ron Mexico. I don’t know how you sort out your anagrams or whatever they are, that you get off a computer program (must be 100’s of thousands on some long names!) – that’s amazing to me. You know your English language terminology beyond anyone I know.

    Can you just let a joke be a joke, though? I’ve heard commenters use the term “spergy”, which pisses me off, because different personalities are not diseases requiring a medical term, that they then nickname. However, you sure get reaaallly close sometimes.

  114. JimB says:
    @Anon

    There’s one straightforward rule. You should never be able to gender-assign a legal minor, and you cannot gender-assign yourself until you’re over 18.

    There’s another straightforward rule, and it’s a biological fact of life. Your sex is determined at conception.

  115. anonymous[348] • Disclaimer says:

    Picture of her with the child taken earlier shows she was prepping him for this for a time. Mother is likely to be a rational sounding lunatic; unsuccessful first marriage, has her first children at age 46 with a person that she probably used as a sperm donor only to discard him later. This sort of insanity infects the college educated classes more than working class types.

  116. J.Ross says:

    There is probably more to the story.

    Be right back, gotta let every rapist out of prison because their victims (or victims’ parents) aren’t always honest.

  117. syonredux says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    “Delores!”

    Besides the fact that Jerry (intentionally?) has the wrong pronunciation,

    Funny ep, but the mispronunciation of clitoris always annoyed me.It’s clit-uh-ris, not clit-or-is.And, while I’m at it, route is pronounced with the “oo” sound in root:

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  118. Anonymous[154] • Disclaimer says:
    @Andrew

    If I were the one charged with giving laws re: parentage, the “mother” would have no claim to raising these kids at all, post-annulment.

  119. anon[358] • Disclaimer says:
    @dfordoom

    If you define the Left as people who want a fairer distribution of wealth and some amelioration of the more destructive side-effects of capitalism

    Then you are probably a liberal Boomer who’s never heard of Antifa and reliably votes straight D ticket.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  120. @syonredux

    And, while I’m at it, route is pronounced with the “oo” sound in root:

    Unfortunately, not where I live. I got confused at first taking up woodworking. What does a router do, route or rout?

    Turns out it’s the latter. A computer router routes, or should. The two are not homophones where I grew up. Nor are Mary, marry, and merry.

    (Oh, and Kindle just changed homophones to homophobes.)

    • Replies: @syonredux
  121. GU says:
    @Roger

    The Hispanic jury probably didn’t understand English all that well, so words like “chemically castrate” went straight over their heads.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  122. @Alden

    Exactly how does one study the faces of people engaged in sexual Congress

    Apparently he has watched lots and lots of porn, while paying obsessive attention to the types of penises involved.

    • Replies: @Alden
  123. syonredux says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    How do people in your region pronounce “integral?’ “ɪntəɡrəl” or “ɪnˈteɡrəl?”

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  124. @Alden

    I wonder why that is? How can a (anti)family court possibly be exempt from the Constitutional requirement for a jury in matters criminal and civil over $20? Could it be that our masters are asserting their absolute ownership? To ask it is to understand the answer.

    • Replies: @Alden
  125. @anonymous

    Military Bases…Military Carreer Fathers….This is the formula for spawning wierdo Children…..

    A few examples:

    Anne Georgulas

    Jim Morrison

    The Lisping ANTIFA who threatened James Fields with a rifle in Charlottesville

    Pearl E. Gates(The Tubes background dancer…formed a band with the Stench Brothers) Clash Bassist Paul Simmonon’s ex-Wife…

    I’m sure there are many other examples…

    Pederasty was rampant at the US Naval Base at Subic Bay in the Phillipines..

    Moral of the story:BRING THE TROOPS HOME!!!!

    I just remembered:Pearl E Gates and the Explosions…Pearl’s pre-Clash carreer…

  126. Bill says:
    @Alden

    The only good thing is she’s a Dr. , not some total weirdo.

    There are total weirdo physicians.

    • Replies: @Alden
  127. Corn says:
    @Suburban_elk_99

    “Did you know that French women refer to American men as sexual cripples, on account of their compromised technique?”

    Not interested in dating a Frenchwoman thank you. The French are notorious adulterers.

    “Do a study and judge by the faces — only the faces — of men and women in sexual congress”

    You need a new hobby.

    • Replies: @Suburban_elk_99
  128. @Stan Adams

    As a sexual cripple, I embrace my victimhood and heartily endorse the notion of reparations for the circumcised. I deserve pity, compassion, immunity from social responsibility, and a hefty cash settlement. If you say something I don’t like, I will destroy your career and ruin your life.

    I will be adding a chapter on this outrage to my upcoming book, Mommie Dearest II: The Bitch Is Back.

    It’s a good title; maybe it will get a mention on this blog?

    Similarly, I tried to start a meme and or a book title: Remember the 120 Million!

    But it didn’t take. Later I found out that the accepted figure for genitally reduced baby boys to date, for the USA and (I think) Canada too, is not 120 million but 140 million, so maybe that’s why.

    On the serious, those children now adults and some dead, do deserve compassion. Pity is a loaded term, but it would apply.

    And most of all? they deserve MONEY. It’s fairly staggering, the implications and simply the SCALE of the medical industry’s malpractice.

    So how can a price be put on someone’s genitals. But that’s the way it works in malpractice: they put a price on it. I would estimate 10 Million per mutilated set (of male genitals), is a settle-able amount.

    By way of example, by way of comparison: How much money would a man in his youthful prime, say a White man from an intact culture such as Russia or Finland or Germany or Norway or Sweden or France or Spain or Portugal or Italy — how much money would require one of these men, to willingly undergo what was done American baby boys? (and forget about the issue of anesthesia; that’s not really what it’s about) The amount that these men would require in order to undergo such an ordeal, and be sentenced to such a diminished sex life, could be ascertained! and might wouldn’t it be MORE than ten million dollars?

    Perhaps some genitals are worth more than others; but then we never know, and that’s sorta the point: we never got to know, what our genitals are worth.

    As for the last, on your listed upsides of being done: immunity from social responsibility.

    It’s been posited many times, that childhood abuse will lead to negative actions later in life. Does childhood abuse, in those forms about which there is consensus, lessen responsibility for bad actions later in life? Yes, no, and somewhat, are the generally accepted answers, and these same answers apply to victims of sex abuse too.

    A relevant term for anyone interested in the topic, is circumcision syndrome. There is such a thing, and it’s the collection of behaviors, affects, and thoughts and feelings, and perhaps these things’ correlated life results. But such syndrome is, surprise (not surprise), controversial. Acknowledging its existence is effectively acknowledging that cutting out a baby’s genitals, is a harmful thing —-> and consequently medical malpractice.

    As goes the joke (mine) — Doctors: the most over-rated ants in the whole colony.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
  129. The amount of off topic shit posting in an attempt to drag the comments off tangent going on in threads like this one is always interesting to note.

  130. donut says:
    @AnonAnon

    You should familiarize yourself with the Red Flag Laws that are proliferating across the country .

  131. C’mon people you are missing the most crucial detail. James liked watching Frozen. Gosh golly any female MD can tell you that makes a boy a Luna. Also explains the growing crisis of death by medical error. Still… all of this lunacy is because of one woman’s desperation for a late in life MRS. Now she takes vengeance out on a little boy . But hey, it’ll probably be good for her pediatric business.

  132. @Corn

    “Did you know that French women refer to American men as sexual cripples, on account of their compromised technique?”

    Not interested in dating a Frenchwoman thank you.

    Well that’s convenient. For both you and them.

    “Do a study and judge by the faces — only the faces — of men and women in sexual congress”

    You need a new hobby.

    It’s not a hobby you dolt. It’s a way of making a point: that intact sex is more satisfying, to the extent that such more satisfying sex can even be seen on the faces of the participants. It’s a suggestion or an idea, a hypothesis, that an interested party could easily evaluate.

    Supposedly, readers of this blog are interested in the social sciences, and the health of White people at large. That health — uh, duh — includes said people’s reproductive habits. It’s not a prurient interest to suggest their faces will reveal something of their health, in fact it’s such a well worn Red Pill that it doesn’t even need stated. But just for you: “Physiognomy is real.” It’s not exactly that same idea, but it is along those lines. People’s faces reflect their health.

  133. Fran800 says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    I was going to say to the post above “McCain is not a gentleman.” If Biden and Klobachur affirm McCain as their friend, that is no surprise.

  134. Rob says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    Hey counter, I just noticed that you wrote a long reply to a question I asked. I didn’t see it then. Sorry and thanks for the thoughtful reply.

  135. BB753 says:
    @Gabe Ruth

    Is the cross upside down? That would explain this!

    • LOL: Alden
  136. BB753 says:
    @Suburban_elk_99

    I can see how having no foreskin might reduce the enjoyment of masturbatory experience. Other than that, it’s an unnecessary procedure in the modern western world with hygiene and antibiotics.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
  137. @GU

    The Hispanic jury probably didn’t understand English all that well, so words like “chemically castrate” went straight over their heads.

    The Spanish term is “castración química”.

  138. Anonymous[739] • Disclaimer says:

    Is this made up?

  139. @syonredux

    How do people in your region pronounce “integral?’ “ɪntəɡrəl” or “ɪnˈteɡrəl?”

    That’s too highfalutin a word for them. Except for the Science Olympiad kids at the high school.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  140. @Achmed E. Newman

    Can you lighten the hell up for one time, Reg? That episode was hilarious!

    You’re the only one here who thinks I’m too serious. Anyway, it was a Brit who brought the point up, not me.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  141. Alden says:
    @ThreeCranes

    I’m sure you’re right.

    She has a Greek name too.
    Middle aged marriages can be worse than young and naive. 40 plus has 20 years to incur debt, bad marriages, unwanted or problem children and to become a damaged person.

  142. @Cloudswrest

    Also … “Every single time.”

    She’s Greek.

    • Replies: @Hail
  143. MBlanc46 says:
    @Whiskey

    It’s hard to deny that women have been in the forefront of normalizing, first, homosexuality, and, now, the “trans” lunacy.

  144. Alden says:
    @Bill

    She’s one. Dr Frankenstein. I can make this boy into a girl. I am God!!

    Still, she did learn about anatomy physiology hormones and human development at one time.

  145. @Hail

    2012: Anne’s husband’s twin sons are born (donated egg) via IVF;

    I was thinking, isn’t castrating your child a poor genetic strategy? But it isn’t her child.

    The husband, though, is related to the boy. He has skin in the game.

    Anne Georgulas =

    A gangrene soul.
    A granule’s gone.

    • Replies: @Olorin
  146. syonredux says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    How do people in your region pronounce “integral?’ “ɪntəɡrəl” or “ɪnˈteɡrəl?”

    That’s too highfalutin a word for them. Except for the Science Olympiad kids at the high school.

    Just curious. I’ve noticed that the “ɪnˈteɡrəl” pronunciation seems to be, unfortunately, gaining ground.

  147. Alden says:
    @Erewhon_Dweller

    In most states Family Court is different because children are involved. Privacy is utmost concern. It’s not just divorces and custody squabbles between parents.

    It’s also child services taking children from abusive parents. It’s mediating between say; the mother of a long gone Dad, the grandma deciding the Mom is an unfit mother Grandma wants custody of child and usually, custody of the welfare check access to section 8 or the projects

    So grandma calls child services with anonymous reports of all kinds of abuse. Child services had to investigate. Grandma goes to one of the many Legal Aid Foundations and finds an attorney to file suit to take child and welfare check from Mom to grandma

    Money hurt feelings revenge and children; people go temporarily insane. It’s so much BS. Judges attorneys social workers etc know it’s all BS.
    When things get too insane the children get a court appointed attorney

    Because

    It’s not who wins and loses in Family Court. It’s first and foremost the best interests of the child.

    The last thing the children, first and foremost the children, and temporarily insane divorcing couples need is stupid jurors making unbelievably crucial decisions that affect a child’s entire life. Not that bad for a 15 year old unless Dad wants to molest her, but terrible for a 3 year old who has an entire child hood dependent on decision of 12 idiots unfamiliar with the insanity of Family Court.

    At least the Family Court Judges know all the lies, stories and manipulations.

    But jurors are innocents about all the BS

    Look at this decision. The jury decided not the judge.

    Whatever you infer from the constitution jury trials are bad. They are a last resort.

    Family Court is often in a separate area with playrooms because stupid parents insist on bringing them or the kids might have to testify.

    For instance in most states there is a standard child support chart dependent on the non custodial parents income. That’s it. what’s on the chart.

    If non custodial parent decides to buy a $100,000 car with $750 a month payments and pleads can’t make car payments and support as well, too bad. Judge orders support your child according to your income and get a cheaper car. A jury might stupidly agree to lower the child support to $50 a month per child because non custodial parent needs to make the car payments

    Or, custodial parent decides to enroll kid in private school summer camp winter ski club riding lessons etc. And wants non custodial parent to pay for all this upper class life on a middle class salary. A jury might order that non custodial parent can afford all this and raise the child support to far far more than is on the standard child support chart

    Texas is the only state that has Family Court jury trials. That’s why I was so surprised.

    Our system is an adversarial fight win or lose system. P vs D. In reality, there are very few jury trials. They’re a last result in civil litigation. In reality, every body settles. Plaintiff gets something Defendant/Respondent keeps something

    Family Court, best interest of the child is paramount. That’s why juries in Family Court are a bad bad bad idea. The parents can indulge in their temporary insanity at a psychiatrist if the want to waste the money, or ruin holidays with their melodrama or beat and kill each other

    Family Court hearings are often closed to the public and other litigants. One case at a time. The other cases in the day’s calendar wait outside. Because it’s all private information and half of what the parent’s say is lies anyway.

    Parents getting divorced and spending weekends with Dad, telling your social worker and attorney you really want to live full time with Dad, all that’s bad for kids. But it going on for years is worse for the kids.

    Parents get over the trauma and leave the kids alone.

  148. Hail says: • Website
    @kaganovitch

    She’s Greek.

    She’s American.

    By which I mean — several generations, at least, native-born US.

    She is from a military family and spent formative years in Hawaii.

    By ancestral origin, Anne Georgulas appears to be half Greek and half-NWEuropean (Greek-ancestry father raised in Baltimore in the 1930s and 1940s) (mother from West Virginia; Protestant). See profile at comment-107 above.

  149. She’s American. By which I mean — several generations, at least, native-born US. She is from a military family and spent formative years in Hawaii.

    Yes, I realize that. I meant contra Contrawrest’s implication that she is ethnically Jewish “every single time…”, she is actually ethnically Greek , thus not “every single time…”

  150. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Jack Henson

    A significant number of you are going full Boomer and saying “WELL A JURY SAID” as if legalese was the highest moral benchmark of the land.

    I’d be very curious to know what the jury selection process is in Family Court cases. Can jurors be challenged? Is it possible for unscrupulous lawyers to effectively pack the jury?

    I’d also be curious to know if the judge offers a summing-up to the jury in these cases. That can make a huge difference.

    In theory the jury system is great. In practice it’s sometimes far from great. In theory the whole legal system is great. In practice it’s usually a very long way from being great.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Alden
  151. dfordoom says: • Website
    @anon

    If you define the Left as people who want a fairer distribution of wealth and some amelioration of the more destructive side-effects of capitalism

    Then you are probably a liberal Boomer who’s never heard of Antifa and reliably votes straight D ticket.

    No, I’m certainly not a liberal. I’m a dirty stinking commie. Ask anyone around these parts.

  152. @SFG

    Yeah… that’s the utility maximizing decision process here. But… imagine a woman wants to turn your little boy into a freakishly maimed sodomite who will likely commit suicide eventually due to his justified despair at what a horror his mere existence has become for himself and everyone around him. The wisdom literature of millennia is even less encouraging about his likely fate from then on.

    Don’t have to answer this, but do you have kids? I’m not sure cool calculation is appropriate here.

  153. Hail says: • Website
    @Hail

    Update

    Anne Georgulas’ grandparents’ names and origins appear to be as follows:

    ___________________

    Father’s Father: George Georgulas (born Nov. 8, 1910, in Manhattan; died June 1987 in Baltimore); he was briefly in the greater Wheeling, WV, area in his late teens and early twenties, and married there, but spent the great majority of his adult life in Baltimore;

    George Georgulas’ father was Petro Georgulas of Chios, Greece. Petro Georgulas arrived in the US in 1909 and left the US in 1914 for Greece. In 1914, Petro took son George back to Greece with him “for purpose of Study,” where he remained through at least 1923 (this per George’s July 1923 US passport application submitted at Athens, Greece; reference listed as a Steve Gulas of Baltimore);

    (Note that this is George Georgulas Sr.; George Georgulas Jr. was Dr. Anne’s father);

    Father’s Mother: Anna Legan (born Jan. 1910; died April 1998 in Maryland) of Belmont, Ohio, across the river from Wheeling, WV; her parents, Martin [born circa 1872] and Anna Legan [born circa 1881], were both of Slovenian origin, apparently married in Europe as subjects of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, arriving in the US separately in 1902 and 1904. Anna Legan’s father was a coal miner; the older people listed on the 1930 census sheet where her family lived are all listed as native speakers of Slovenian, Polish, and Czech;

    George Georgulas and Anna Legan married at a Catholic church in Bridgeport, Ohio (Gretaer Wheeling, WV, area) in June 1930. The family moved to Baltimore in about the mid 1930s and remained there; in Baltimore, George was listed as a waiter at a Baltimore night club (El Patio Club) and Anna as a waitress at a restaurant on the 1940 census; their son George Peter Georgulas (1932-2000) (Dr. Anne’s father) was raised there but left Baltimore to join the military some time in the 1950s;

    _______________

    Mother’s Father: Claredon Adams of West Virginia? (this name via the obituary of Virginia “Ginger” Georgulas, mother of Dr. Anne);

    Mother’s Mother: Alma Elizabeth Riddle (1913-1987?) of West Virginia; died in Baltimore; her father was Edwin Riddle (born ca. 1867), a painter; mother was Daisy (born ca. 1885); both of her parents listed as born in West Virginia.

    Claredon Adams and Alma Riddle were married in 1933 in Wirt, West Virginia. Daughter Virginia born Jan. 1935, but by 1940, their five-year-old daughter was living with Adams relatives in Wirt County and mother Alma was not around; Alma Riddle and Claredon Adams may either have divorced in the late 1930s or Claredon died, but in any case an Alma Elizabeth Riddle with the same birth year remarries in 1939 and ends up in Baltimore.

    ___________________

    By ancestry, Dr. Anne Georgulas was only a quarter Greek, but this is also the ancestral line with most recent ties to Europe; her grandfather, having grown up largely in Greece, would have retained a strong Greek identity. A quarter Slovenian-Catholic. Half Appalachia White-Protestant.

    Dr. Anne’s mother’s family’s story is less clear, and in any case her mother didn’t retain much of any ties to Appalachia after about age 20.

    Wirt County, West Virginia (97.5% White, 1.5% Black on 2010 census), is a characteristic profile in Trump support: It went 79-16 Trump-Clinton in 2016, by far the biggest margin for any presidential candidate in its history.

  154. aajj says:
    @Andrew

    That doesn’t matter. Same as adoption.

  155. aajj says:
    @Bostonvegas

    Amen. Right on!!!! Finally, common sense.

  156. bomag says:
    @anonymous

    Agree.

    She probably sees the kid as a kind of art project: change and craft him; then put him on display.

  157. @Suburban_elk_99

    My tone was quasi-facetious.

    That being said, I would gladly accept a $10 million settlement. Where do I sign up for direct deposit?

    A relevant term for anyone interested in the topic, is circumcision syndrome. There is such a thing, and it’s the collection of behaviors, affects, and thoughts and feelings, and perhaps these things’ correlated life results.

  158. Olorin says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    He doesn’t have skin in the game. He had a wank into a test tube that was then placed in a petri dish to fuse with the eggs of someone other than his wife.

    He’s got, at best, Frankengametes in the game.

    Dude, a guy who marries a woman whose mother literally leads others in religious worship putting sexual degeneracy at the center, then reproduces like that, has no genetic interest except in the most degraded, r-population/ant-farm sense.

    He’s got some unexamined gender hostilities that will eventually whet–or blunt–themselves against those of any female he interacts with.

    And if his chosen wife’s mother’s interest is in “female mystic perspectives,” as well***

    …well, I really don’t see how having a daughter who practices the rites of Ephesus or Dionysus is at odds with that.

    Thus I don’t know what he’s bashing on about, other than to get attention. He’s gotten in spades what he signed up for.

    By the way, MIL Rev. Virginia “Ginger” Georgulas–Anne Georgulas’s mother–was ordained in 1991 and became a specific queer religion advocate after her addict son died of AIDS in 1994.

    https://archive.org/stream/BAR_19940922/BAR_19940922_djvu.txt

    Anne Georgulas went as “Anne Trammel” then. Note that his obit there refers to the family’s rootlessness and this son’s birth in Baltimore.

    You remember Baltimore, right, Reg? Remember what happened there in the 1960s and 1970s, when Mark Georgulas would have been growing up there and/or elsewhere?

    For it seems that postwar military rootlessness is part of the mix. Mark Georgulas’s dad–also Anne’s, and Ginger’s first husband–was a US Army vet who served in Vietnam, 1SGT George P. Georgulas. He’s buried at Fort Sam Houston FWIW.

    So now we have within one generation a family’s men going from being warriors to dying of AIDS in the Bay Area, or castrating their husband’s frankensons…while the widow celebrates sexual degeneracy as holy.

    There is something much deeper here. I wish we were talking about that instead of this kneejerk slapping of (the eminently slappable) Anne Georgulas for doubling down on this toxic nonsense.

    As for Younger’s decision to marry Anne Trammel/Georgulas, we might guess that he larped as being a Marine to tweak any admiration she might have had for her own father as a warrior. Betraying that isn’t, as our host suggested, something she was too air headed to see through. At that level, she’s really pulling a Medea here, isn’t she? If Younger stole military valor, why shouldn’t a daughter of warriors kill his spawn’s genetic interest?

    Seems pretty Spartan to me.

    You remember the Spartans, right? The guys that the guys on the right are always larping as?

    As for Younger’s marrying Anne Trammel/Georgulas, if such a long-standing pattern of family sexual and behavioral confusion, rootlessness, and misadventure doesn’t raise red flags, then what can?

    (And we must view him as the victim, of course, not as his own sort of predator. White men can’t have or exercise agency–the left and right agree on that point In The Current Year.)

    And at this point, how do white people’s kids get guided to grow up and mate given that this confusion, rootlessness, and misadventure has been inflicted on all our families?

    But far be it from me to dismiss the kneejerk narrative about the insane mom being the only gorgon in the case. and the subsequent group fap over the Dark Goddess.

    So yeah, bash on, gentlemen–but this isn’t giving your sons/nephews/neighbors advice or patterns or guidance that is going to help them understand and keep them clear of the deeper problems oozing out from this mess.

    ***https://northaven.blogspot.com/2009/08/contemplative-life-female-mystic.html

    http://archive.is/mfPJ9

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Alden
  159. Alden says:
    @Random Smartaleck

    I was trying to be ladylike with my comment.

  160. Alden says:
    @dfordoom

    Read my comment 153 explaining why in all states but Texas have no jury trials in Family Court.

    49 States it’s Judge only and all the judges’ FINDINGS and ORDERS SHALL BE in the best interests of the children

    SHALL BE is in the the Judge’s practice manual whatever each state calls it. Also when first appointed judges go to judge school and learn all orders shall be in the interests of the child.

    Will means possible. Shall is imperative an order.

    Judges are as crazy as defendants and litigants of course. Do you all know what the best thing about women judges is? They don’t come back after lunch so drunk they can hardly sit upright.

  161. Anonymous[267] • Disclaimer says:
    @PunchOutMyProblems

    If he was that kind of guy he would never have got himself into this mess in the first place.

  162. @BB753

    I have it on good authority that one can engage in self-abuse with a satisfactory level of enjoyment even without an intact foreskin.

    • Replies: @BB753
  163. Alden says:
    @SFG

    Police go after spouse, ex spouses, family, disgruntled employees and lovers, then angry neighbors in that order.

    He’d be handcuffed and mirandized soon as possible after the body was discovered.

  164. Alden says:
    @Jack Henson

    The judge hasn’t made any orders after this verdict. She, this particular judge is delaying issuing orders until the child protective services investigation is finished.

    Big difference between a juror’s verdict and a judge’s orders.

    The verdict was a question of the jury believing the mothers lol expert witnesses.

    • Replies: @Jack Henson
  165. Alden says:
    @dfordoom

    We all have different life experience, expertise, live in different parts of the country and the world.

    Many people have never been involved in litigation. Some of us have.

  166. Hail says: • Website
    @Olorin

    the family’s rootlessness and this son’s birth in Baltimore.

    The rootlessness is because of the military moving them around.

    As for Baltimore, in fact the Greek-origin Georgulas grandfather had roots in Baltimore going back to the 1920s (see post above on Dr. Anne Georgulas’ grandparents).

    (Fellow Greek-ancestry American Spiro T. Agnew [born in Baltimore, Nov. 1918] was elected Baltimore County Executive in Nov. 1962, and then Governor in Nov. 1966, catching the Nixon campaign’s attention by being one of the few to actually condemn the rioters of 1968; Gov. Agnew held a press conference after some of the worst riots in which he publicly humiliated many Black Civil Rights movement leaders, whom he’d led into a trap, a stunt that may have gotten him the Vice Presidency. Grandpa Georgulas was still around Baltimore at this time, and for the rest of his life, but Jr. Georgulas had left to join the army in the 1950s. Jr. Georgulas presumably retained ties to Baltimore for many years after joining the army, including at the birth of his first son.)

    I suspect there are easily-overlooked-but-important elements to this story, on how Dr. Anne ended up a true-believing, left-wing castrationist; namely: The risks of being raised in a ‘rootless’ military family (i.e., being sent around the fringes of the empire), and the long residence in Hawaii — with the second more important but caused by the first.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  167. @Alden

    “The system is fine everything is great.”

    Okay.

  168. MEH 0910 says:
    @WowJustWow

  169. BB753 says:
    @Stan Adams

    But does it really compare? Face it, you’ve been stolen a lifetime of onanistic pleasure by the philo-semitic medical industry! Ensuring crypsis for the Chosen by having all Gentiles cut too.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
  170. @Hail

    I presume Olorin’s reference to Baltimore meant Johns Hopkins U., where what were called “sex changes” were going on. They were among the first to push this, but to their credit, were the first to turn their backs on it, too.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_R._McHugh#Gender,_sexuality_and_sex_reassignment_surgery

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
  171. @syonredux

    Now I have a pronunciation question for you.

    I keep hearing this fellow’s way of saying -ul- words– adult, result, culture— all the time now: “a-DOOLT”, “re-ZOOLT”, “KOOL-cher”, etc. Is this a recent trend, or is it regional?

    I’ve never noticed it before, and it’s rather annoying. Though nowhere near as annoying as Desmond and his mom.

    • Replies: @awry
  172. Anonymous[240] • Disclaimer says:

    Circumcision is appropriate for people who are going to be spending extended periods in hot, dry countries where regular bathing is difficult.

    • Replies: @Liza
  173. @BB753

    I dream of things undone, of orgasms un- … -come. (Does that sound dumb?)

    • LOL: BB753
  174. Alden says:
    @Olorin

    There are rumors on the internet Dad was booted out of the Marines because of then illegal gay issues.

    What a family. Kids might end up wards of the court. Doesn’t sound as though there are any normal relatives to place them with.

    • Agree: Liza
  175. Liza says:
    @Anonymous

    Circumcision is appropriate for people who are going to be spending extended periods in hot, dry countries where regular bathing is difficult.

    Including females. Have you ever seen female genitalia? All those flaps and furrows and lips. Imagine if we couldn’t wash ourselves!! Shear it all off if you’re going to be posted to a hot dry country.

    Guess what is the ages-old way of washing un-cut (normal) male penis? Close the hole with your hand, urinate, swishing it around, then let the urine out. Urine (unless you have an infection) is clean & sterile.

    An uncut man told me that.

  176. Liza says:

    So this unfortunate boy is the product of URT (un-natural reproductive technology). I would not discount this as a factor in the boy thinking he is a girl. We were not designed to come into the world this way.

    Yes, you can point to very many “normal” people who came into the world in this manner – and I can point to people who started smoking since childhood or teenage years, proceeded to smoked all their lives, and never got any lung or heart disease whatsoever. This lucky characteristic is in my own family background. However, it doesn’t follow that heavy smoking has nothing to do with a lot of people who DO get lung cancer, other lung problems and heart disease.

    I’d kill for a researcher to come along and do some statistical research on the connection between trans-sexuality and URTs.

  177. Dan Hayes says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Reg Caesar:

    Unfortunately McHugh’s principled heroic work has recently been overturned with Johns Hopkins now back big time in the sex reassignment business.

  178. awry says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Some British dialects are like that.

  179. Anonymous[279] • Disclaimer says:

    Has everyone forgotten the aptly named “Dr.” John Money and his notorious “John/Joan” case?

    The worthy doctor claimed to have turned a boy into a girl following a botched medical circumcision, sex being merely a social construct. Both the victim and his brother ended up committing suicide.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer

  180. Liza says:

    Has everyone forgotten the aptly named “Dr.” John Money and his notorious “John/Joan” case?

    from wikipedia:

    Reimer said that Money forced the twins to rehearse sexual acts involving “thrusting movements”, with David playing the bottom role. Reimer said that, as a child, he had to get “down on all fours” with his brother, Brian Reimer, “up behind his butt” with “his crotch against” his “buttocks”. Reimer said that Money forced David, in another sexual position, to have his “legs spread” with Brian on top. Reimer said that Money also forced the children to take their “clothes off” and engage in “genital inspections”. On “at least one occasion”, Reimer said that Money took a photograph of the two children doing these activities. Money’s rationale for these various treatments was his belief that “childhood ‘sexual rehearsal play’” was important for a “healthy adult gender identity”

  181. @Walsh2

    You’re wrong on this one – As a court officer working my way through law school I saw well over a hundred jury trials and listened to deliberations through my post at the jury room door. Outside of two examples to the contrary, every jury I dealt with took their duty seriously and did their job well.

    So they let the poor bastard off every time because he hadn’t hurt anyone or trespassed on anyone’s property?

    Or did they do as the Judge instructed?

    Your faith in the system is entirely due to it signing your paycheck.

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