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The national exit poll on House voting from CNN (these numbers continue to change slightly as the evening wears on):

Screenshot 2014-11-04 22.41.03

A few comments:

– The margin for error in exit polls is larger than the sample size would suggest because they have to pre-pick polling stations to send pollsters to.

– I don’t think the GOP’s 60% of the white vote is enough to win the White House in 2016.

– After all the huffing and puffing by the media over Ferguson, the GOP wound up doing fine among blacks, getting 10% of their vote.

– Despite all the predictions of doom for the GOP over not passing amnesty, the Hispanic vote turned out pretty ho-hum.

– The GOP’s strong showing among Asians is interesting.

One possibility is that Obama personally made a big difference in the past in attracting some nonwhites to vote Democratic. Is it all that implausible that the nonwhites who show up to vote in Presidential elections but not in non-Presidential elections tend to be followers of Celebrity Culture?

By the way, if you feel like comparing the 2014 exit poll to the long-lost 2002 mid-term exit poll, here’s my 2003 analysis. The software crashed on election night 2002, so no exit polls were ever officially released. The next year, I bought the raw data for $95 and crunched it in Excel, and wrote it up.

 
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  1. “The GOP’s strong showing among Asians is interesting.”

    Steve what about the GOP’s strong showing among the racial group Other, do you find that interesting as well ?

    • Replies: @Mack0
    I'm interested as well. The Asian vote was the first thing that popped out at me as well. Asians might finally be realizing the Democrats might not have their best interests at heart. What affirmative action programs actually benefit Asians? On the other hand, it might be a simple matter of more older Asians voters showing up to the polls during the mid-terms.
  2. The Deep South’s last White Democrat in the House was beaten in Georgia in a surprise loss:

    http://www.ajc.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/rick-allen-upsets-john-barrow-for-georgia/nhzbx/

    I’m wondering how white Democrats will feel in coming years when the party won’t put forth white male candidates.

  3. I imagine the same demographic factors that help Republicans among whites during midterms help them among blacks and Hispanics too. Middle class married blacks are undoubtedly more likely to vote in midterms and more likely to vote Republican (even if they still favor Dems on the whole) than are poor black single moms.

    The Asian number is interesting.

  4. Those were the asian wives of the white men being forced by their husband to vote republican lol. But their kids will still be Dems.

  5. – I don’t think the GOP’s 60% of the white vote is enough to win the White House in 2016.

    I wholeheartedly agree. The GOP is going to have to run the tables on the white vote to win the White House. Again, I question why the GOP is not being more explicitly anti-illegal immigration. It can be done in ways to appeal to anxious lower middle class whites in the Rust Belt without looking “racist.”

    – After all the huffing and puffing by the media over Ferguson, the GOP wound up doing fine among blacks, getting 10% of their vote.

    I’d say 10% is about the ceiling for black GOP votes.

    – The GOP’s strong showing among Asians is interesting.

    We’ll see the breakdowns by ethnic groups soon enough.

    Since South Asians vote for Democrats in black numbers (90% or so), I’d suspect the traditionally Republican-voting Asians (Koreans and Vietnamese) probably returned to the GOP fold in large numbers compared to the last election. But we won’t know until we see the numbers.

    I do know that several GOP campaigns in swing/Sun Belt states put considerable effort into Asian outreach. Asian-Americans have the weakest party affiliation still. They are still “gettable” for whoever shows up.

    • Replies: @JayMan

    Again, I question why the GOP is not being more explicitly anti-illegal immigration. It can be done in ways to appeal to anxious lower middle class whites in the Rust Belt without looking “racist.”
     
    Except the Rust Belt Whites don't seem that worried about immigration:

    Mapping 20 Million Facebook Users' Political Sentiment - WSJ.com

    They are worried about "economic equality and mobility," however. A failure to connect the dots, perhaps?
  6. “Is it all that implausible that the nonwhites who show up to vote in Presidential elections but not in non-Presidential elections tend to be followers of Celebrity Culture?”

    A lot of fans of Tyler Perry’s Madea movies don’t show up to vote in midterm elections. Neither do a lot of Hispanics who are fans of the Fast And The Furious movies, they are also known for being missing in action at the polls during midterm elections.

  7. How can the GOP look at charts like this and still support large scale immigration? There is only one demographic that they are winning, whites, yet their leadership is intent on shaping the electorate to benefit the democrats. Unbelievable.

    • Replies: @Melendwyr

    How can the GOP look at charts like this and still support large scale immigration?
     
    Easy - they have no concern about 'loyalty to their political party'. They merely have loyalty to their class interests. Democrats are working towards a herd of easily-influenced proles ruled over by a few elites. The Republican elites stand to benefit as much as the Democratic ones if the societal reconstruction is completed. They pander to the people who grant them political power now, and reap the benefits of the policies they pretended to oppose long after their elections are over.
    , @Anonymous
    On the other hand, the more immigration, the more of the white vote the GOP wins. The less immigration, the less of the white vote the GOP is likely to win.
  8. “The Deep South’s last White Democrat in the House was beaten in Georgia in a surprise loss:

    http://www.ajc.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/rick-allen-upsets-john-barrow-for-georgia/nhzbx/

    I’m wondering how white Democrats will feel in coming years when the party won’t put forth white male candidates.”

    White Southern Democrats are becoming an endangered species. The Democratic Party in the South racially looks like Detroit.

  9. Why be a citizenist, why not be an internationalist instead, countries are just random lines on a map.

  10. About this exit poll:

    1. I think it underestimates the percentage of the electorate today that was white and overestimates the percentage that was non-white, especially black.

    There were a lot of races results tonight that could have only turned out the way they did in favor of Republicans or in favor of them handily if black voters largely stayed at home. The Congressional district with East St. Louis, you read that right, East St. Louis, will be represented by a Republican. Among many other examples.

    2. I think exit polls all around overestimate the white vote for the Republicans, including this one, and the same one in 2010 showing 60% whites for the Republicans. I think that whatever the truth was, the white vote for Republicans was somewhat less than what it was four years ago, and seeing these results tonight, there’s no way 60% of whites today voted Republican. That was one of the things James Kirkpatrick at V-Dare kept harping on, that Republicans needed to get to 60% of the white vote to have a chance. They didn’t, but it didn’t matter. And why didn’t it matter? Because non-whites stayed home.

    Something else:

    Why were a lot of the polls wrong? How did it come to be that a lot of these races that were supposed to be nail biters and narrow Republican wins turn out to be easy Republican wins? Answer: The non-whites stayed home, even more than they did four years ago.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    "1. I think it underestimates the percentage of the electorate today that was white and overestimates the percentage that was non-white, especially black."

    Quite possibly -- exit polls aren't really intended to get accurate reads of turnout by race. That's heavily baked into the cake when you decide ahead of time which precincts to send a staffer to. They want to find out how each race voted, and if they get too many of a minority group, well that gives them a bigger sample size so they can have more confidence in their partisan split, so that's not all that bad.

    , @Jonathan Silber
    The non-whites stayed home, even more than they did four years ago.

    Kudos to the stay-at-home NAMS!
  11. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    There are differences among the main Asian groups:

    Chinese, Indians, Filipinos, Koreans, Japanese, and Vietnamese

    The Indians strongly favor Democrats while Vietnamese strongly support Republicans

    The rest I don’t think there is a marked tendency towards any one party although Koreans based on their churchgoing habits and military service might be in the Republican camp.

    In any case groups like Koreans, Vietnamese and Japanese are at most 0.5% of the country and located mostly in non-battleground states so who would care enough to collect the data.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    The rest I don’t think there is a marked tendency towards any one party although Koreans based on their churchgoing habits and military service might be in the Republican camp.
     
    Korean-Americans have been traditionally Republican by a modest margin.

    In any case groups like Koreans, Vietnamese and Japanese are at most 0.5% of the country and located mostly in non-battleground states so who would care enough to collect the data.
     
    Not so. In places like Northern Virginia, the Korean and Vietnamese vote can make a difference.
  12. @countenance
    About this exit poll:

    1. I think it underestimates the percentage of the electorate today that was white and overestimates the percentage that was non-white, especially black.

    There were a lot of races results tonight that could have only turned out the way they did in favor of Republicans or in favor of them handily if black voters largely stayed at home. The Congressional district with East St. Louis, you read that right, East St. Louis, will be represented by a Republican. Among many other examples.

    2. I think exit polls all around overestimate the white vote for the Republicans, including this one, and the same one in 2010 showing 60% whites for the Republicans. I think that whatever the truth was, the white vote for Republicans was somewhat less than what it was four years ago, and seeing these results tonight, there's no way 60% of whites today voted Republican. That was one of the things James Kirkpatrick at V-Dare kept harping on, that Republicans needed to get to 60% of the white vote to have a chance. They didn't, but it didn't matter. And why didn't it matter? Because non-whites stayed home.

    Something else:

    Why were a lot of the polls wrong? How did it come to be that a lot of these races that were supposed to be nail biters and narrow Republican wins turn out to be easy Republican wins? Answer: The non-whites stayed home, even more than they did four years ago.

    “1. I think it underestimates the percentage of the electorate today that was white and overestimates the percentage that was non-white, especially black.”

    Quite possibly — exit polls aren’t really intended to get accurate reads of turnout by race. That’s heavily baked into the cake when you decide ahead of time which precincts to send a staffer to. They want to find out how each race voted, and if they get too many of a minority group, well that gives them a bigger sample size so they can have more confidence in their partisan split, so that’s not all that bad.

    • Replies: @countenance
    What got me to realize that exit polls overstate white % R is that the only exit poll done for MO in 2012 was Fox News's, and it showed that 66% of whites voted Romney. Okay, so if that's the case, then how was the final statewide vote % for Romney dragged down to 54%? There was a high black turnout, for sure, but that's not enough. And not enough rural counties voted Romney with 66% or more. I think the real figure was more like 61%.
  13. Does that White figure include Jews and Arabs? I assume it does.

  14. The GOP’s strong showing among Asians is interesting.

    Asians are smart; they’re the ‘model minority’, or so I’ve heard. Maybe more of them have now realized that the nice white country they emigrated to is disappearing, and under democrats it will disappear even faster.

    I have a feeling that starting in the mid 70’s with Vietnamese refugees a lot of Asian immigrants were low class — I know in San Jose, where I lived at the time, most of them ended up living on the east side with the Hispanics and Blacks.

    Now that has definitely changed — more Asian immigrants are of significantly higher SES; some came as university students and never left. A good example of this is Cupertino, where Apple is building its new HQ. A very desirable area. I know that the parents of these former students/now young professionals heard about the good schools — full of white kids at the time — in Cupertino, and poured money over here so their kids could buy a house in Cupertino. By the mid 90’s you could go to any Cupertino grade school at recess and play ‘spot the white kid on the playground’ — it wasn’t easy to find one.

    Maybe these Asians are starting to figure out that a country dominated by the democratic coalition of the underclass is not exactly something to embrace.

    • Replies: @grey enlightenment
    Yeah. Smart, high-achieving Asians are realizing the republicans more than the democrats have their best interests in mind. Republicans support the meritocracy and free markets more than democrats.
    , @Twinkie

    Maybe these Asians are starting to figure out that a country dominated by the democratic coalition of the underclass is not exactly something to embrace.
     
    You got that trend backward. Until the 90's, Asian-Americans voted overwhelmingly for the GOP, often at higher rates than whites did. In other words, Asians "voted white" more than whites did!

    That began to change in the mid-90's and on and became dramatic with the two Obama presidential elections.

    Still, of the major racial groups, their vote is the "swingiest" and they have the weakest party ID, meaning they are still uncertain of their party affiliations/attachments.
    , @Robert Hume
    "Maybe these Asians are starting to figure out that a country dominated by the democratic coalition of the underclass is not exactly something to embrace"

    Also maybe they don't want it dominated by the ethnicity of the country they fled. This might also apply to many Latinos if the message could be properly framed by Republicans.
    , @Robbie
    Doubt it, Asians want white DNA but they have no particular love for whites. I talked to an Asian friend the other day and to summarize the argument they were making without knowing it "But I want to live in everything you guys create, but I don't want you guys around"

    Asians voted Republican because Democrats were way too Black This Time Around...The Black Ebola, The Black Michael Brown

    Asians hate being combined with blacks. So the Democratic Party will just have to put a Shinier, Niftier More Jewish Veneer next time and BAM the Asians will be back.
  15. @eah
    The GOP’s strong showing among Asians is interesting.

    Asians are smart; they're the 'model minority', or so I've heard. Maybe more of them have now realized that the nice white country they emigrated to is disappearing, and under democrats it will disappear even faster.

    I have a feeling that starting in the mid 70's with Vietnamese refugees a lot of Asian immigrants were low class -- I know in San Jose, where I lived at the time, most of them ended up living on the east side with the Hispanics and Blacks.

    Now that has definitely changed -- more Asian immigrants are of significantly higher SES; some came as university students and never left. A good example of this is Cupertino, where Apple is building its new HQ. A very desirable area. I know that the parents of these former students/now young professionals heard about the good schools -- full of white kids at the time -- in Cupertino, and poured money over here so their kids could buy a house in Cupertino. By the mid 90's you could go to any Cupertino grade school at recess and play 'spot the white kid on the playground' -- it wasn't easy to find one.

    Maybe these Asians are starting to figure out that a country dominated by the democratic coalition of the underclass is not exactly something to embrace.

    Yeah. Smart, high-achieving Asians are realizing the republicans more than the democrats have their best interests in mind. Republicans support the meritocracy and free markets more than democrats.

  16. @Anon
    There are differences among the main Asian groups:

    Chinese, Indians, Filipinos, Koreans, Japanese, and Vietnamese

    The Indians strongly favor Democrats while Vietnamese strongly support Republicans

    The rest I don't think there is a marked tendency towards any one party although Koreans based on their churchgoing habits and military service might be in the Republican camp.

    In any case groups like Koreans, Vietnamese and Japanese are at most 0.5% of the country and located mostly in non-battleground states so who would care enough to collect the data.

    The rest I don’t think there is a marked tendency towards any one party although Koreans based on their churchgoing habits and military service might be in the Republican camp.

    Korean-Americans have been traditionally Republican by a modest margin.

    In any case groups like Koreans, Vietnamese and Japanese are at most 0.5% of the country and located mostly in non-battleground states so who would care enough to collect the data.

    Not so. In places like Northern Virginia, the Korean and Vietnamese vote can make a difference.

  17. @eah
    The GOP’s strong showing among Asians is interesting.

    Asians are smart; they're the 'model minority', or so I've heard. Maybe more of them have now realized that the nice white country they emigrated to is disappearing, and under democrats it will disappear even faster.

    I have a feeling that starting in the mid 70's with Vietnamese refugees a lot of Asian immigrants were low class -- I know in San Jose, where I lived at the time, most of them ended up living on the east side with the Hispanics and Blacks.

    Now that has definitely changed -- more Asian immigrants are of significantly higher SES; some came as university students and never left. A good example of this is Cupertino, where Apple is building its new HQ. A very desirable area. I know that the parents of these former students/now young professionals heard about the good schools -- full of white kids at the time -- in Cupertino, and poured money over here so their kids could buy a house in Cupertino. By the mid 90's you could go to any Cupertino grade school at recess and play 'spot the white kid on the playground' -- it wasn't easy to find one.

    Maybe these Asians are starting to figure out that a country dominated by the democratic coalition of the underclass is not exactly something to embrace.

    Maybe these Asians are starting to figure out that a country dominated by the democratic coalition of the underclass is not exactly something to embrace.

    You got that trend backward. Until the 90’s, Asian-Americans voted overwhelmingly for the GOP, often at higher rates than whites did. In other words, Asians “voted white” more than whites did!

    That began to change in the mid-90’s and on and became dramatic with the two Obama presidential elections.

    Still, of the major racial groups, their vote is the “swingiest” and they have the weakest party ID, meaning they are still uncertain of their party affiliations/attachments.

    • Replies: @Lurker

    Until the 90′s, Asian-Americans voted overwhelmingly for the GOP, often at higher rates than whites did. In other words, Asians “voted white” more than whites did!
     
    I'm not sure that's true, not going by some older exit polls I was looking at, more like 60% Democrat. Sorry, can't find the numbers right now.
  18. @countenance
    About this exit poll:

    1. I think it underestimates the percentage of the electorate today that was white and overestimates the percentage that was non-white, especially black.

    There were a lot of races results tonight that could have only turned out the way they did in favor of Republicans or in favor of them handily if black voters largely stayed at home. The Congressional district with East St. Louis, you read that right, East St. Louis, will be represented by a Republican. Among many other examples.

    2. I think exit polls all around overestimate the white vote for the Republicans, including this one, and the same one in 2010 showing 60% whites for the Republicans. I think that whatever the truth was, the white vote for Republicans was somewhat less than what it was four years ago, and seeing these results tonight, there's no way 60% of whites today voted Republican. That was one of the things James Kirkpatrick at V-Dare kept harping on, that Republicans needed to get to 60% of the white vote to have a chance. They didn't, but it didn't matter. And why didn't it matter? Because non-whites stayed home.

    Something else:

    Why were a lot of the polls wrong? How did it come to be that a lot of these races that were supposed to be nail biters and narrow Republican wins turn out to be easy Republican wins? Answer: The non-whites stayed home, even more than they did four years ago.

    The non-whites stayed home, even more than they did four years ago.

    Kudos to the stay-at-home NAMS!

  19. OT but this post got me to wonder if I could find information on how various races voted in our (New Zealand) recent election. Unfortunately I couldn’t. What I did find was an article decrying the racism that had marred the recent campaigns. The foremost example of which was a left-wing candidate reffering to our centre-right, jewish, prime minister John Key as

    shonky johnkey shylock

    . About which he later apologised.
    The second example was the Maori anti-immigation politician Winston Peters saying

    As they say in Beijing, two Wongs don’t make a white

    This in reference to the government allowing Chinese to buy New Zealand farms.
    The race relations commisioner said in regards to his joke

    Winston Peters needs to know he’s not funny.

    the prime minister when asked said

    :It’s Winston, isn’t it? I don’t want to be cynical about these things but we’re 40 days from the election and you’re asking me a question about it. He’s probably achieved his objective, which is to try and get on the news.

    Winston Peters undeterred said:T

    he truth is a Chinese guy in Beijing told me that, and he thought it was funny, and I still think it’s funny.

    Which goes to show that New Zealand politician’s racism is funnier than your politician’s racism.

  20. Despite the huge GOP victory in the 2014 midterm elections, I am sure there are districts in the country where the GOP literally got zero percent of the Black vote.

    I know in 2012, Mitt Romney got zero percent of the Black vote in places like East Cleveland and Philadelphia.

    • Replies: @Lesser Bull
    Just by accident or voter-error alone, Romney would have got some votes. 0% suggests that the votes are being, ah, intelligently designed.
  21. …the GOP wound up doing fine among blacks, getting 10% of their vote.

    The Ds’ embrace of white gay grandstanders– and gentrifiers– probably kept many blacks home. Especially churchgoers and Africans.

    And mosquegoers. I’d like to see what the Somali precincts did in Minneapolis. Forget an exit vote, though.

  22. I did find some data regarding the Asian vote in NZ, but only a tiny poll of 40 people.

    30% National (centre right)
    17.5% Labour (centre left)
    12.5% Greens (loons)
    12.5% Act (libertarianish)
    7.5% Conservatives (tough on crime/social conservatives)

    This fits with what I’ve seen in the past. East Asians in particular seem to be right-wing.

  23. Does anyone here know how the jewish vote went ?

  24. [Dem candidate for governor of Texas Wendy] Davis did win black women 94 percent to Abbott’s 5 percent, and Latino women 61 percent to 39 percent (interesting to note Abbott won Latino men by 1 point).

    Davis only won unmarried women by 14 points, while Abbott won married women by 25 points.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wendy-davis-didnt-even-win-texas-women/article/2555737#!

    As you, of course, have so often pointed out, Steve.

    More kudos to the stay-at-home NAMS!

  25. Or maybe since the they can get half of the Asian vote the Republicans now figure that they can get rid of the white voters.

  26. Exit polls should show Dems did best with Illegals.

  27. @eah
    The GOP’s strong showing among Asians is interesting.

    Asians are smart; they're the 'model minority', or so I've heard. Maybe more of them have now realized that the nice white country they emigrated to is disappearing, and under democrats it will disappear even faster.

    I have a feeling that starting in the mid 70's with Vietnamese refugees a lot of Asian immigrants were low class -- I know in San Jose, where I lived at the time, most of them ended up living on the east side with the Hispanics and Blacks.

    Now that has definitely changed -- more Asian immigrants are of significantly higher SES; some came as university students and never left. A good example of this is Cupertino, where Apple is building its new HQ. A very desirable area. I know that the parents of these former students/now young professionals heard about the good schools -- full of white kids at the time -- in Cupertino, and poured money over here so their kids could buy a house in Cupertino. By the mid 90's you could go to any Cupertino grade school at recess and play 'spot the white kid on the playground' -- it wasn't easy to find one.

    Maybe these Asians are starting to figure out that a country dominated by the democratic coalition of the underclass is not exactly something to embrace.

    “Maybe these Asians are starting to figure out that a country dominated by the democratic coalition of the underclass is not exactly something to embrace”

    Also maybe they don’t want it dominated by the ethnicity of the country they fled. This might also apply to many Latinos if the message could be properly framed by Republicans.

  28. WhatEvvs [AKA "Cookies"] says:

    I gave up watching the results because all they talked about was the economy – no talk of immigration. But see Kaus today – appears to be saying that the heart of the economics question was immigration.

    The Maryland result was a total beauty. Please write about that. I think it was a personal – and stunning – rebuke to Obama (and Michelle).

    Look at Larry Hogan & see how he won. That might help in 2016.

    • Replies: @e
    The immigration issue was how transplanted MA resident Scott Brown, carrying the burden of "carpetbagger," almost overtook Shaheen in NH. He was far behind until he began hitting the Dems on amnesty and immigration, in a state about as far from our southern border as you can get.
    I think another two/three days of campaigning and he'd have beaten her.
  29. @eah
    The GOP’s strong showing among Asians is interesting.

    Asians are smart; they're the 'model minority', or so I've heard. Maybe more of them have now realized that the nice white country they emigrated to is disappearing, and under democrats it will disappear even faster.

    I have a feeling that starting in the mid 70's with Vietnamese refugees a lot of Asian immigrants were low class -- I know in San Jose, where I lived at the time, most of them ended up living on the east side with the Hispanics and Blacks.

    Now that has definitely changed -- more Asian immigrants are of significantly higher SES; some came as university students and never left. A good example of this is Cupertino, where Apple is building its new HQ. A very desirable area. I know that the parents of these former students/now young professionals heard about the good schools -- full of white kids at the time -- in Cupertino, and poured money over here so their kids could buy a house in Cupertino. By the mid 90's you could go to any Cupertino grade school at recess and play 'spot the white kid on the playground' -- it wasn't easy to find one.

    Maybe these Asians are starting to figure out that a country dominated by the democratic coalition of the underclass is not exactly something to embrace.

    Doubt it, Asians want white DNA but they have no particular love for whites. I talked to an Asian friend the other day and to summarize the argument they were making without knowing it “But I want to live in everything you guys create, but I don’t want you guys around”

    Asians voted Republican because Democrats were way too Black This Time Around…The Black Ebola, The Black Michael Brown

    Asians hate being combined with blacks. So the Democratic Party will just have to put a Shinier, Niftier More Jewish Veneer next time and BAM the Asians will be back.

  30. In 2 years when Hillary is sworn in, we’ll laugh at the collective temper tantrum from the right. And in 6-8 years when the Democrats have another Super Majority (thanks in part to just how fucking awful your party is), we’ll laugh at the crying and whining and gnashing of teeth as your dying party tries desperately to stay relevant.

    So yes, enjoy a mid-term victory that means nothing thanks to Obama’s veto pen, and start counting down the days. Because as your party’s demographics die out, ours grow stronger. Your party can pretend to have the present thanks to gerrymandering and racism and hatred and fear, because the future belongs to progressives and liberals.

    • Replies: @Patrick in SC
    Satire?
    , @countenance
    Dear troll,

    The big worry isn't six years from now, it's what happens starting in January. I'm waiting on the first Boehner/McConnell sellout.
    , @William Badwhite
    "we’ll laugh at the crying and whining and gnashing of teeth as your dying party tries desperately to stay relevant."

    Thanks Ted. Nothing like a gracious loser! Good luck with Hillary though, I'm sure in two years she'll have learned all the lessons from her lifetime of corruption and stupidity and be just the breath of fresh air you people need - after 8 years of your effete' low-energy dweeb Urkel.

    "Because as your party’s demographics die out, ours grow stronger. Your party can pretend to have the present thanks to gerrymandering and racism and hatred and fear, because the future belongs to progressives and liberals."

    The past belong to progressives and liberals too Special Ed Ted. You idiots have been calling the shots for 50 years and all you've done is wreck a country.

    Anyway what you meant to say was "the future belongs to blacks and hispanics", which is another way of saying America will be just another black/brown run shithole. But don't worry Ted, I'm sure they'll remember you were one of the "good whites" when they mug you or appropriate your property.
    , @Unladen Swallow
    Don't mince words Ted, what do you really think? A future of "liberals and progressives" coalition will ultimately self-destruct because unlimited immigration from Latin America will lead to a population that will receive far more government benefits then tax revenues competing with a black population that already is receiving far more government benefits than they pay in taxes. If the White population keeps shrinking relative to Hispanics and Blacks, who is going to pay for the unlimited gravy train of welfare state benefits? Fewer white people means fewer tax providers for the tax receivers, and the Asian population although quite well off is still far smaller than the White population, they won't be able to make up the difference, nor would I guess would they be as likely to be made to feel guilty for not giving more.

    Shrinking tax base, rising number of people receiving more in benefits than they pay in taxes, the shortfall will have to made up by selling Treasury securities to our new overlords the Chinese. How long will the Mandarin Chinese finance an American government when in 40 years we look like a cross between rural Mexico combined with urban Detroit or Newark? They will stop the gravy train and then you will have a third world nation without the first world tax base to subsidize it anymore. I know, I know, it's future!!! well so is Idiocracy, remember that when you are living in the decayed remnant of a once great civilization.

    , @Miguel
    Actually, it's your demographic that is dying out. Less than 20% of Americans consider themselves "liberals" and the number gets smaller year after year. Oh well.
  31. Revealing that Blacks went 89% for Dems, seeing as how well they’re doing on the Progressive Plantation.

    Yes We Klan!

  32. White men’s voting percentage declined from 70 to 55% in presidential elections from 1964 to 2012; and from 59 to 41% in by-elections according to an unremarked plot in an article in yesterday’s Washington Post. What’s going on?

    See last plot in:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/11/04/why-the-2014-electorate-is-the-best-one-republicans-will-see-for-a-very-long-time/

  33. “I have a feeling that starting in the mid 70′s with Vietnamese refugees a lot of Asian immigrants were low class ”

    A lot of those Vietnamese refugees had been fairly important people back in the old country, a lot of them were also ethnic Chinese. I would assume as a group Vietnamese-Americans have significantly higher IQs than the Vietnamese population back home.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    A lot of those Vietnamese refugees had been fairly important people back in the old country, a lot of them were also ethnic Chinese. I would assume as a group Vietnamese-Americans have significantly higher IQs than the Vietnamese population back home.
     
    Moreover, many of those Vietnamese were/are Roman Catholics, and not the Western "bring out the guitar" kind.
  34. Yes, Indians are natural democrats. Ask Neel Kashkari, Bobby Jindal, or Nicky Haley.

    High income people tend to vote Republican. Indians have by far the highest incomes in the county. The fact they are not voting 90% republican is the amazing part.

    The Ro Khanna/Mike Honda race is a good indicator of the money issue.

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
    Yes, Indians are natural democrats.

    Indeed.

    Why Do Indian-Americans Love Barack Obama And The Democrats?
    National Asian American Survey (NAAS) revealed that a whopping 68 percent -- higher than any other Asian ethnic group – of Indian-Americans will vote for Obama, while Romney will attract only 5 percent support (25 percent were undecided).
    , @Sam Haysom
    Non-Christian Indians probally are natural Democrats. It's a little bit hypocritical since these same Indian voters almost certain support the Hindu-identity BJP so there complaints about the Christian Right aren't very convincing, but people are tribal.
    , @AnAnon
    "Neel Kashkari" - was basically running on a Democrat platform. Indians vote 90% for Democrats and thats not likely to change.
    , @Twinkie

    Ask Neel Kashkari, Bobby Jindal, or Nicky Haley.
     
    Jindal is a Catholic convert and Haley is a Methodist. They are completely unrepresentative of the vast majority of South Asian populations in the U.S. who are non-Christians and vote heavily for Democrats.

    High income people tend to vote Republican. Indians have by far the highest incomes in the county. The fact they are not voting 90% republican is the amazing part.
     
    The GOP is the party of middle class, college graduates. Democrats attract both the low end and the very high end economically/educationally.

    Ever hear the old expression "Jews earn like Episcopalians but vote like Puerto Ricans?"

    Religion is a far better predictor of party affiliation than income is in the United States. That's why the most Republican of Asians are Koreans (heavily evangelical Protestant in the U.S.) and Vietnamese (Catholic).
  35. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    In Illinois Republican Bruce Rauner is declaring victory. Both incumbent Quinn and Rauner worked overtime for the black vote as if it were crucial for them. Quinn was an almost stereotypical Dem in the coalition he gathered and he recently had the president come out in person and endorse him. Rauner, on the other hand, is probably a Republican just out of convenience. His wife is a Dem and he’s been very close friends with Rahm Emanuel. He’s a billionaire who belongs to an invitation only ‘wine club’ that costs $140,000 to join (must like wine). He has no track record. It was funny to see Rauner, who is Jewish, in a news clip along with family members all sitting in a pew “worshipping” (as they put it) at a black church as part of their campaign. They really stuck out in there and one wonders what was running through their minds at the time; probably couldn’t wait to get away from there.

  36. @Twinkie

    - I don’t think the GOP’s 60% of the white vote is enough to win the White House in 2016.
     
    I wholeheartedly agree. The GOP is going to have to run the tables on the white vote to win the White House. Again, I question why the GOP is not being more explicitly anti-illegal immigration. It can be done in ways to appeal to anxious lower middle class whites in the Rust Belt without looking "racist."

    - After all the huffing and puffing by the media over Ferguson, the GOP wound up doing fine among blacks, getting 10% of their vote.
     
    I'd say 10% is about the ceiling for black GOP votes.

    - The GOP’s strong showing among Asians is interesting.
     
    We'll see the breakdowns by ethnic groups soon enough.

    Since South Asians vote for Democrats in black numbers (90% or so), I'd suspect the traditionally Republican-voting Asians (Koreans and Vietnamese) probably returned to the GOP fold in large numbers compared to the last election. But we won't know until we see the numbers.

    I do know that several GOP campaigns in swing/Sun Belt states put considerable effort into Asian outreach. Asian-Americans have the weakest party affiliation still. They are still "gettable" for whoever shows up.

    Again, I question why the GOP is not being more explicitly anti-illegal immigration. It can be done in ways to appeal to anxious lower middle class whites in the Rust Belt without looking “racist.”

    Except the Rust Belt Whites don’t seem that worried about immigration:

    Mapping 20 Million Facebook Users’ Political Sentiment – WSJ.com

    They are worried about “economic equality and mobility,” however. A failure to connect the dots, perhaps?

    • Replies: @Lurker

    They are worried about “economic equality and mobility,” however. A failure to connect the dots, perhaps?
     
    And what luck, a vast media complex is in place to make those dots stay resolutely unconnected.
    , @Twinkie

    Except the Rust Belt Whites don’t seem that worried about immigration:

    Mapping 20 Million Facebook Users’ Political Sentiment – WSJ.com

    They are worried about “economic equality and mobility,” however. A failure to connect the dots, perhaps?
     
    No kidding. Somebody please connect the dots for them... without "sounding racist."
  37. Priss Factor [AKA "terrapin gape"] says:

    “I don’t think the GOP’s 60% of the white vote is enough to win the White House in 2016.”

    Hillary will win. But voting behavior in Congressional races cannot be correlated with voting for presidents.
    Plenty of whites who voted democratic in local elections voted for Nixon or Reagan in national elections. This was esp true of ethnics.

    Likewise for Asians. 50% went for Republicans in local races but they might vote differently in national elections.

    • Replies: @Sunbeam
    "Hillary will win. But voting behavior in Congressional races cannot be correlated with voting for presidents."

    I kind of disagree with this. If Hillary wins the democratic nomination, I think the republicans take the White House.

    IF, and this is a big IF, they nominate a candidate who isn't an utter stiff. I think most of you guys let your personal leanings interfere with your evaluation of Romney in the last election. That man was a terrible candidate, he was the worst campaigner since Dukakis (Something in the water in Massachusetts? The rest of the country just doesn't get Massachusetts pols?).

    I have no idea who is running for either party in the next Presidential race, or who may challenge Hillary for the nod.

    But in her own way, she is as awful a candidate as Romney was. Thing is the republicans seem to be able to find someone worse.

    She is going to come across as tepid bathwater if she runs against anyone with any real charisma. Plus she is old, and that is an undiscovered country with female candidates in a personality driven process.
  38. @Jefferson
    "The GOP’s strong showing among Asians is interesting."

    Steve what about the GOP's strong showing among the racial group Other, do you find that interesting as well ?

    I’m interested as well. The Asian vote was the first thing that popped out at me as well. Asians might finally be realizing the Democrats might not have their best interests at heart. What affirmative action programs actually benefit Asians? On the other hand, it might be a simple matter of more older Asians voters showing up to the polls during the mid-terms.

  39. Indians, the most wealthy demographic group in America, favor Democrats. Vietnamese, one of the least wealthy Asian groups in America, favor Republicans. I don’t get it.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    Indians, the most wealthy demographic group in America, favor Democrats. Vietnamese, one of the least wealthy Asian groups in America, favor Republicans. I don’t get it.
     
    You have to look beyond materialist explanations to understand American politics, which is mostly about identity.

    Indians are overwhelmingly non-Christians and act more like Jewish voters - well-educated, affluent, but highly Democratic. So they, just as Jewish voters do, tend to fear and loathe the "Bible-thumping redneck" citizenry.

    Vietnamese in the U.S. strongly Catholic and therefore vote like white Catholics do. And Vietnamese Catholics tend to be more orthodox, so they often vote "very white." On top of that, older Vietnamese voters are fiercely anti-communist, so they identify strongly with the GOP like older Cubans.

    There is a similar dynamic at work with Koreans, except instead of Catholics, they are evangelical Protestants.

    Another thing to note is that the assimilation/intermarriage rates are much higher with the Vietnamese and the Koreans. They tend to marry whites at much higher rates than Indians/South Asians.
  40. @Ted
    In 2 years when Hillary is sworn in, we'll laugh at the collective temper tantrum from the right. And in 6-8 years when the Democrats have another Super Majority (thanks in part to just how fucking awful your party is), we'll laugh at the crying and whining and gnashing of teeth as your dying party tries desperately to stay relevant.

    So yes, enjoy a mid-term victory that means nothing thanks to Obama's veto pen, and start counting down the days. Because as your party's demographics die out, ours grow stronger. Your party can pretend to have the present thanks to gerrymandering and racism and hatred and fear, because the future belongs to progressives and liberals.

    Satire?

  41. ,

    A survey I saw did show that an overwhelming majority of South Asians voted for Obama in 2008, but I would not generalize from that. The thought of Sarah Palin being a heart beat away (and a 70+ year old’s heart beat at that!) from the Oval Office led me to voting Democrat for the only time in my life, and many conservatives felt the same way.

    Anecdotes are not a substitute for data, but based on my large extended family of Sikh heritage (I say heritage as we are nearly all clean shaven and do not wear turbans) here and in the UK, and on friends of Sikh heritage, I would say that the split is roughly 50/50 between conservatives and liberals. In the UK, older Sikhs typically vote for the Labour Party, but this if often from force of habit, rather than political views; my dad voted for Labour all his life, even though his views on law and order, welfare dependents and social issues were well to the right of most conservatives. Somewhat ironically, the district where I grew, which was represented by Enoch Powell in my youth, is now represented by Paul Uppal, a Conservative MP of Sikh heritage.

  42. @Steve Sailer
    "1. I think it underestimates the percentage of the electorate today that was white and overestimates the percentage that was non-white, especially black."

    Quite possibly -- exit polls aren't really intended to get accurate reads of turnout by race. That's heavily baked into the cake when you decide ahead of time which precincts to send a staffer to. They want to find out how each race voted, and if they get too many of a minority group, well that gives them a bigger sample size so they can have more confidence in their partisan split, so that's not all that bad.

    What got me to realize that exit polls overstate white % R is that the only exit poll done for MO in 2012 was Fox News’s, and it showed that 66% of whites voted Romney. Okay, so if that’s the case, then how was the final statewide vote % for Romney dragged down to 54%? There was a high black turnout, for sure, but that’s not enough. And not enough rural counties voted Romney with 66% or more. I think the real figure was more like 61%.

  43. I think South Asians were generally Republican or libertarian before they started getting conflated with “Muslim terrorists” after 9/11. I think they’re swinging back to the Republicans now that the terrorism thing is kind of over.

    Also now that we’re getting more West African immigrants, who have similar employment patterns as Asians, the black vote will probably be more divided in a few years.

  44. @Ted
    In 2 years when Hillary is sworn in, we'll laugh at the collective temper tantrum from the right. And in 6-8 years when the Democrats have another Super Majority (thanks in part to just how fucking awful your party is), we'll laugh at the crying and whining and gnashing of teeth as your dying party tries desperately to stay relevant.

    So yes, enjoy a mid-term victory that means nothing thanks to Obama's veto pen, and start counting down the days. Because as your party's demographics die out, ours grow stronger. Your party can pretend to have the present thanks to gerrymandering and racism and hatred and fear, because the future belongs to progressives and liberals.

    Dear troll,

    The big worry isn’t six years from now, it’s what happens starting in January. I’m waiting on the first Boehner/McConnell sellout.

  45. Regarding Asians, perhaps all the affirmative action stuff in California earlier this year woke them up?

  46. A question. What constitutes a Dem or GOP vote for ballot splitters? Many people (or, as Obama would say, a bunch of folks) voted for a Republican governor and a Democrat senator; see, e.g., Illinois and Massachussetts. How were their votes tabulated by the exit pollsters?

    And what motivates these people anyway? They want a smaller state welfare apparratus, but a bigger national one? Is personal popularity that big a factor? Who could be that enthralled with Dick Durban personally? Is Coakley really that revolting?

    OK, that was more than one question.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Good questions. I believe these tables are based on House vote, but ticket splitters are of course very interesting.
    , @ua2
    The area where there is huge differences in the two big statewide offices (gov and senator) is foreign policy. Govs have little to no juice in that arena. Senators do.

    That can explain ticket splitters. I can vote for a low tax gov but a liberal senator who is a dove.
    , @Brutusale
    Yes, Coakley is really that revolting. Google Keith Winfield.
  47. @charlie
    Yes, Indians are natural democrats. Ask Neel Kashkari, Bobby Jindal, or Nicky Haley.

    High income people tend to vote Republican. Indians have by far the highest incomes in the county. The fact they are not voting 90% republican is the amazing part.

    The Ro Khanna/Mike Honda race is a good indicator of the money issue.

    Yes, Indians are natural democrats.

    Indeed.

    Why Do Indian-Americans Love Barack Obama And The Democrats?
    National Asian American Survey (NAAS) revealed that a whopping 68 percent — higher than any other Asian ethnic group – of Indian-Americans will vote for Obama, while Romney will attract only 5 percent support (25 percent were undecided).

  48. @charlie
    Yes, Indians are natural democrats. Ask Neel Kashkari, Bobby Jindal, or Nicky Haley.

    High income people tend to vote Republican. Indians have by far the highest incomes in the county. The fact they are not voting 90% republican is the amazing part.

    The Ro Khanna/Mike Honda race is a good indicator of the money issue.

    Non-Christian Indians probally are natural Democrats. It’s a little bit hypocritical since these same Indian voters almost certain support the Hindu-identity BJP so there complaints about the Christian Right aren’t very convincing, but people are tribal.

  49. @WhatEvvs
    I gave up watching the results because all they talked about was the economy - no talk of immigration. But see Kaus today - appears to be saying that the heart of the economics question was immigration.

    The Maryland result was a total beauty. Please write about that. I think it was a personal - and stunning - rebuke to Obama (and Michelle).

    Look at Larry Hogan & see how he won. That might help in 2016.

    The immigration issue was how transplanted MA resident Scott Brown, carrying the burden of “carpetbagger,” almost overtook Shaheen in NH. He was far behind until he began hitting the Dems on amnesty and immigration, in a state about as far from our southern border as you can get.
    I think another two/three days of campaigning and he’d have beaten her.

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    Maybe. I didn't pay too much attention to that race. Scott Brown seems like a lightweight to me. I think if there had been a more substantial Republican candidate (such as Brat, my hero) he would beaten Shaheen.

    If the Republican Party in NY State had any brains, they would work on kicking Kirsten Gillebrand's ass out of the Senate. And I think her ass is kickable. She was appointed to Clinton's vacated seat, and turned from being a reasonably conservative upstate gal to being a Schumer fembot and a radical feminist.

    But they don't have any brains. They are brain dead.
    , @WhatEvvs
    PS..."He was far behind until he began hitting the Dems on amnesty and immigration, in a state about as far from our southern border as you can get."

    This is an indication that he was a lightweight and a phony, and not a man of principle like Brat. Not sure that 3 more days would have changed that.
  50. Now that the Republicans are in control of the House and Senate, I will be looking forward to the repeal of Affirmative Action!

  51. @iSteveFan
    How can the GOP look at charts like this and still support large scale immigration? There is only one demographic that they are winning, whites, yet their leadership is intent on shaping the electorate to benefit the democrats. Unbelievable.

    How can the GOP look at charts like this and still support large scale immigration?

    Easy – they have no concern about ‘loyalty to their political party’. They merely have loyalty to their class interests. Democrats are working towards a herd of easily-influenced proles ruled over by a few elites. The Republican elites stand to benefit as much as the Democratic ones if the societal reconstruction is completed. They pander to the people who grant them political power now, and reap the benefits of the policies they pretended to oppose long after their elections are over.

  52. @Priss Factor
    "I don’t think the GOP’s 60% of the white vote is enough to win the White House in 2016."

    Hillary will win. But voting behavior in Congressional races cannot be correlated with voting for presidents.
    Plenty of whites who voted democratic in local elections voted for Nixon or Reagan in national elections. This was esp true of ethnics.

    Likewise for Asians. 50% went for Republicans in local races but they might vote differently in national elections.

    “Hillary will win. But voting behavior in Congressional races cannot be correlated with voting for presidents.”

    I kind of disagree with this. If Hillary wins the democratic nomination, I think the republicans take the White House.

    IF, and this is a big IF, they nominate a candidate who isn’t an utter stiff. I think most of you guys let your personal leanings interfere with your evaluation of Romney in the last election. That man was a terrible candidate, he was the worst campaigner since Dukakis (Something in the water in Massachusetts? The rest of the country just doesn’t get Massachusetts pols?).

    I have no idea who is running for either party in the next Presidential race, or who may challenge Hillary for the nod.

    But in her own way, she is as awful a candidate as Romney was. Thing is the republicans seem to be able to find someone worse.

    She is going to come across as tepid bathwater if she runs against anyone with any real charisma. Plus she is old, and that is an undiscovered country with female candidates in a personality driven process.

  53. “- I don’t think the GOP’s 60% of the white vote is enough to win the White House in 2016.”
    its not.

    “- After all the huffing and puffing by the media over Ferguson, the GOP wound up doing fine among blacks, getting 10% of their vote.”
    2 black candidates ran for the GOP, thats probably what happened there.

    “- The GOP’s strong showing among Asians is interesting.”
    I’d suspect this is about the CA governor’s race.

    “1. I think it underestimates the percentage of the electorate today that was white and overestimates the percentage that was non-white, especially black.” – 75% is about right, the GOP needs to go after northern working class white voters if it wants to win.

    • Replies: @The Practical Conservative
    Nah, the black GOPers weren't running where a black vote was relevant. Honestly, blacks are likely to tack right as the economy worsens, probably going to 15-20% R. For various reasons they aren't going hit their peak of 40+% R anytime soon, but they could easily get close to their FDR-era numbers. Before the CRA, there was a substantial black libertarian voting pool. It's still there, more or less, but unlikely to turn out to vote as it once did.
  54. Is it all that implausible that the nonwhites who show up to vote in Presidential elections but not in non-Presidential elections tend to be followers of Celebrity Culture?

    That might apply to a lot of whites too. Turnout for mid-terms seems to be only 40% on average so the GOP is unlikely to win in 2016 as blacks along with white celebrity followers will turn out to vote in much higher numbers.

  55. @Ted
    In 2 years when Hillary is sworn in, we'll laugh at the collective temper tantrum from the right. And in 6-8 years when the Democrats have another Super Majority (thanks in part to just how fucking awful your party is), we'll laugh at the crying and whining and gnashing of teeth as your dying party tries desperately to stay relevant.

    So yes, enjoy a mid-term victory that means nothing thanks to Obama's veto pen, and start counting down the days. Because as your party's demographics die out, ours grow stronger. Your party can pretend to have the present thanks to gerrymandering and racism and hatred and fear, because the future belongs to progressives and liberals.

    “we’ll laugh at the crying and whining and gnashing of teeth as your dying party tries desperately to stay relevant.”

    Thanks Ted. Nothing like a gracious loser! Good luck with Hillary though, I’m sure in two years she’ll have learned all the lessons from her lifetime of corruption and stupidity and be just the breath of fresh air you people need – after 8 years of your effete’ low-energy dweeb Urkel.

    “Because as your party’s demographics die out, ours grow stronger. Your party can pretend to have the present thanks to gerrymandering and racism and hatred and fear, because the future belongs to progressives and liberals.”

    The past belong to progressives and liberals too Special Ed Ted. You idiots have been calling the shots for 50 years and all you’ve done is wreck a country.

    Anyway what you meant to say was “the future belongs to blacks and hispanics”, which is another way of saying America will be just another black/brown run shithole. But don’t worry Ted, I’m sure they’ll remember you were one of the “good whites” when they mug you or appropriate your property.

    • Replies: @map
    Exactly.

    Washington, DC will look like Ferguson, MO.
  56. @iSteveFan
    How can the GOP look at charts like this and still support large scale immigration? There is only one demographic that they are winning, whites, yet their leadership is intent on shaping the electorate to benefit the democrats. Unbelievable.

    On the other hand, the more immigration, the more of the white vote the GOP wins. The less immigration, the less of the white vote the GOP is likely to win.

  57. It’s quite obvious why Asians went so heavy for Obama. It has to do with sexual dynamics. Asian males see white males as the chief sexual competition for Asian women, so they would rather not vote a white male into such an in your face position of power as the presidency.

    For Asian females otoh, Obama represents an ideal sexual partner: a “civilized” black man. Asian women are in a sense forced into the arms of white men in order to escape the extreme betatude of many Asian men, but they do so almost reluctantly. They have internalized not only the popular culture perception that white guys who like Asian girls are creepy losers, but also the idea that Asians, Mexicans, blacks etc are all part of the same group that is defined by what it’s not: namely, white. As such, other people of color have more of a “right” to sexual access to Asian women than white men do. A black man can never be “creepy”for liking Asian girls whereas a white man is always so.

    The problem is that most black men are highly dysfunctional and those that are not favor white women over Asians anyway. So asian women are stuck choosing between beta Asian men and “creepy” white man. If America was full of blacks such as obama who also happened to like asian women, then such blacks would end up virtually cornering the market for sexual access to Asian women. Hence, asian women voted for Obama.

  58. GOP had two Asians running for governor, Nikki Haley in SC and Allan Fung in Rhode Island. May have helped a bit.

    Asians are far more natural Republicans than Hispanics. However, they still see themselves to some degree as “outsiders” and they resent the intolerant talk radio types, i.e. Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones, that loom large in the public imagination and continue to make them feel like part of the outgroup rather than the ingroup. Obama’s campaign played this up subconsciously, that he’s a globalist facing off against the crusty white men who keeps non-whites down.

    Eventually, I expect that they’ll come to realize they’re better off allying with supporters of Pat Buchanan than supporters of Al Sharpton.

    (Funny side note: I watched a little MSNBC on election night, and at one point Sharpton explicitly brought up the fact that the black vote was the only thing keeping some of these races close, and that the community needed to be rewarded appropriately for that. Cracks in the fringe coalition.)

  59. Too bad there is no official statistic on this, but my guess is that among Asian American women who vote Republican I bet 95%-99% of them have a White husband or White boyfriend.

    Among Asian American women who prefer to date and marry within their own race, I can not see a lot of them being supporters of the GOP. Besides the Asian American women who prefer men of their own race are usually the ones who write anti-White male blogs about how Yellow Fever is racist and how they are extremely disgusted and want to vomit whenever a White male tries to holla at them. There is an Asian American female blogger named Kristina Wong who constantly writes about how much she hates White males. What are the odds that she is a Democrat ? Most likely 100 percent.

  60. “…the GOP wound up doing fine among blacks, getting 10% of their vote”

    Getting only 10 percent of the vote from a certain demographic group is considered doing fine ? Wow the bar is set very low for what is considered Republican success among African American voters.

  61. “[Dem candidate for governor of Texas Wendy] Davis did win black women 94 percent to Abbott’s 5 percent, and Latino women 61 percent to 39 percent (interesting to note Abbott won Latino men by 1 point).

    Davis only won unmarried women by 14 points, while Abbott won married women by 25 points.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wendy-davis-didnt-even-win-texas-women/article/2555737#!

    As you, of course, have so often pointed out, Steve.

    More kudos to the stay-at-home NAMS!”

    Wendy Davis claims to be a a strong hear me roar Feminist who does not need a man to succeed in life, but she is nothing but a gold digger who when she was younger married a much older wealthy sugar daddy to help pay for her college education.

    Feminists who are materialistic gold diggers who want to marry men only for their money are some of the biggest hypocrites. White men are all bad sexist pigs but I still need to marry a sexist pig rich White man in order to achieve my desired financial security because I am too lazy or not smart enough to become a self made millionaire on my own.

  62. @Twinkie

    Maybe these Asians are starting to figure out that a country dominated by the democratic coalition of the underclass is not exactly something to embrace.
     
    You got that trend backward. Until the 90's, Asian-Americans voted overwhelmingly for the GOP, often at higher rates than whites did. In other words, Asians "voted white" more than whites did!

    That began to change in the mid-90's and on and became dramatic with the two Obama presidential elections.

    Still, of the major racial groups, their vote is the "swingiest" and they have the weakest party ID, meaning they are still uncertain of their party affiliations/attachments.

    Until the 90′s, Asian-Americans voted overwhelmingly for the GOP, often at higher rates than whites did. In other words, Asians “voted white” more than whites did!

    I’m not sure that’s true, not going by some older exit polls I was looking at, more like 60% Democrat. Sorry, can’t find the numbers right now.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    I’m not sure that’s true, not going by some older exit polls I was looking at, more like 60% Democrat. Sorry, can’t find the numbers right now.
     
    See: http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/elections/how_groups_voted/voted_92.html

    In the 1992 presidential election, here was the racial breakdown:

    Whites: Clinton 39%, Bush 41%, Perot 21%
    Blacks: Clinton 83%,Bush 10%, Perot 7%
    Hispanics: Clinton 61%, Bush 25%, Perot 14%
    Asians: Clinton 31%, Bush 55%, Perot 15%

    Again, prior to the mid-1990's, Asians voted heavily for Republicans and heavily against Democrats, often at higher rates than whites did. They were in some ways whiter than white voters. Then this trend began to change since that time, reaching a crescendo of the two Obama elections.
  63. anon • Disclaimer says:

    “Why be a citizenist, why not be an internationalist instead, countries are just random lines on a map.”

    Because internationalism makes for chaotic labor markets. Most of the big choices that come with being an adult in the modern world, like starting a family or buying a house, are heavily dependent on a person having income/job stability. To people without significant capital, which would be the vast majority, internationalism mostly just brings increased labor market instability. Capitalists on the other hand reap huge savings in the labor market savings. So if your rich, you’re right: internationalism is an almost pure positive with the extra benefit of claiming the supposed philosophical high ground of it being a more universalist position.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    In a unified labor market you can work in Mexico as an engineer and benefit from the lower cost of living.
  64. So yes, enjoy a mid-term victory that means nothing thanks to Obama’s veto pen, and start counting down the days. Because as your party’s demographics die out, ours grow stronger. Your party can pretend to have the present thanks to gerrymandering and racism and hatred and fear, because the future belongs to progressives and liberals.

    I wouldn’t be so sure of that. I keep thinking of a quote attributed to Keynes: “Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.” Perhaps it should be modified to: The GOP can keep padding their white vote margin faster than Democrats can keep adding minorities.

    Just because a thing appears destined to happen does not guarantee it will happen in a way that is convenient for you.

  65. @JayMan

    Again, I question why the GOP is not being more explicitly anti-illegal immigration. It can be done in ways to appeal to anxious lower middle class whites in the Rust Belt without looking “racist.”
     
    Except the Rust Belt Whites don't seem that worried about immigration:

    Mapping 20 Million Facebook Users' Political Sentiment - WSJ.com

    They are worried about "economic equality and mobility," however. A failure to connect the dots, perhaps?

    They are worried about “economic equality and mobility,” however. A failure to connect the dots, perhaps?

    And what luck, a vast media complex is in place to make those dots stay resolutely unconnected.

    • Replies: @ua2
    Asian exit poll data showed a huge swing from 2012 and 2010 compared to Jewish exit poll data.

    Many people remarked that asians vote like jews, but clearly this isn't the case.

    Any hypotheses on why Asians swung more than Jews to the R side this time around?

    Is the institutional connection between Jews and D's just too long and strong whereas Asian voters don't have the same long term connection to the D's?
    , @ua2
    Don't blame the vast media complex. Blame it on intellectual laziness. Sitting down with a few texts on economics and politics for just one whole day at the local public library would connect the dots with such strength that no 'media complex' would break the connection.
  66. @Ted
    In 2 years when Hillary is sworn in, we'll laugh at the collective temper tantrum from the right. And in 6-8 years when the Democrats have another Super Majority (thanks in part to just how fucking awful your party is), we'll laugh at the crying and whining and gnashing of teeth as your dying party tries desperately to stay relevant.

    So yes, enjoy a mid-term victory that means nothing thanks to Obama's veto pen, and start counting down the days. Because as your party's demographics die out, ours grow stronger. Your party can pretend to have the present thanks to gerrymandering and racism and hatred and fear, because the future belongs to progressives and liberals.

    Don’t mince words Ted, what do you really think? A future of “liberals and progressives” coalition will ultimately self-destruct because unlimited immigration from Latin America will lead to a population that will receive far more government benefits then tax revenues competing with a black population that already is receiving far more government benefits than they pay in taxes. If the White population keeps shrinking relative to Hispanics and Blacks, who is going to pay for the unlimited gravy train of welfare state benefits? Fewer white people means fewer tax providers for the tax receivers, and the Asian population although quite well off is still far smaller than the White population, they won’t be able to make up the difference, nor would I guess would they be as likely to be made to feel guilty for not giving more.

    Shrinking tax base, rising number of people receiving more in benefits than they pay in taxes, the shortfall will have to made up by selling Treasury securities to our new overlords the Chinese. How long will the Mandarin Chinese finance an American government when in 40 years we look like a cross between rural Mexico combined with urban Detroit or Newark? They will stop the gravy train and then you will have a third world nation without the first world tax base to subsidize it anymore. I know, I know, it’s future!!! well so is Idiocracy, remember that when you are living in the decayed remnant of a once great civilization.

  67. @I, Libertine
    A question. What constitutes a Dem or GOP vote for ballot splitters? Many people (or, as Obama would say, a bunch of folks) voted for a Republican governor and a Democrat senator; see, e.g., Illinois and Massachussetts. How were their votes tabulated by the exit pollsters?

    And what motivates these people anyway? They want a smaller state welfare apparratus, but a bigger national one? Is personal popularity that big a factor? Who could be that enthralled with Dick Durban personally? Is Coakley really that revolting?

    OK, that was more than one question.

    Good questions. I believe these tables are based on House vote, but ticket splitters are of course very interesting.

  68. @Lurker

    They are worried about “economic equality and mobility,” however. A failure to connect the dots, perhaps?
     
    And what luck, a vast media complex is in place to make those dots stay resolutely unconnected.

    Asian exit poll data showed a huge swing from 2012 and 2010 compared to Jewish exit poll data.

    Many people remarked that asians vote like jews, but clearly this isn’t the case.

    Any hypotheses on why Asians swung more than Jews to the R side this time around?

    Is the institutional connection between Jews and D’s just too long and strong whereas Asian voters don’t have the same long term connection to the D’s?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I don't know. I'm not convinced the exit poll result of 2012 showing Asians overwhelmingly going for Obama was wholly accurate. The competing Reuters-Ipsos panel showed a less extreme result in 2012.
  69. @ua2
    Asian exit poll data showed a huge swing from 2012 and 2010 compared to Jewish exit poll data.

    Many people remarked that asians vote like jews, but clearly this isn't the case.

    Any hypotheses on why Asians swung more than Jews to the R side this time around?

    Is the institutional connection between Jews and D's just too long and strong whereas Asian voters don't have the same long term connection to the D's?

    I don’t know. I’m not convinced the exit poll result of 2012 showing Asians overwhelmingly going for Obama was wholly accurate. The competing Reuters-Ipsos panel showed a less extreme result in 2012.

    • Replies: @I, Libertine
    Oh, yeah. It said "House voting." My bad.
  70. @charlie
    Yes, Indians are natural democrats. Ask Neel Kashkari, Bobby Jindal, or Nicky Haley.

    High income people tend to vote Republican. Indians have by far the highest incomes in the county. The fact they are not voting 90% republican is the amazing part.

    The Ro Khanna/Mike Honda race is a good indicator of the money issue.

    “Neel Kashkari” – was basically running on a Democrat platform. Indians vote 90% for Democrats and thats not likely to change.

    • Replies: @ua2
    Only if you look at his social policies and views. Kashkari is a corporatist republican through and through on economics.
  71. @I, Libertine
    A question. What constitutes a Dem or GOP vote for ballot splitters? Many people (or, as Obama would say, a bunch of folks) voted for a Republican governor and a Democrat senator; see, e.g., Illinois and Massachussetts. How were their votes tabulated by the exit pollsters?

    And what motivates these people anyway? They want a smaller state welfare apparratus, but a bigger national one? Is personal popularity that big a factor? Who could be that enthralled with Dick Durban personally? Is Coakley really that revolting?

    OK, that was more than one question.

    The area where there is huge differences in the two big statewide offices (gov and senator) is foreign policy. Govs have little to no juice in that arena. Senators do.

    That can explain ticket splitters. I can vote for a low tax gov but a liberal senator who is a dove.

    • Replies: @I, Libertine
    Good point.
  72. @AnAnon
    "Neel Kashkari" - was basically running on a Democrat platform. Indians vote 90% for Democrats and thats not likely to change.

    Only if you look at his social policies and views. Kashkari is a corporatist republican through and through on economics.

  73. @Lurker

    They are worried about “economic equality and mobility,” however. A failure to connect the dots, perhaps?
     
    And what luck, a vast media complex is in place to make those dots stay resolutely unconnected.

    Don’t blame the vast media complex. Blame it on intellectual laziness. Sitting down with a few texts on economics and politics for just one whole day at the local public library would connect the dots with such strength that no ‘media complex’ would break the connection.

  74. Its interesting how Republicans feel its a great victory when 90% of blacks vote Republican. So basically all that outreach by Nixon, Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II along with the refusal to take a hard stand on Affirmative action got the Republicans zero.

    Way to go, Jack Kemp, Karl Rove, Hugh Hewitt, and George Will. Heck of a job, Brownie.

  75. WhatEvvs [AKA "Cookies"] says:
    @e
    The immigration issue was how transplanted MA resident Scott Brown, carrying the burden of "carpetbagger," almost overtook Shaheen in NH. He was far behind until he began hitting the Dems on amnesty and immigration, in a state about as far from our southern border as you can get.
    I think another two/three days of campaigning and he'd have beaten her.

    Maybe. I didn’t pay too much attention to that race. Scott Brown seems like a lightweight to me. I think if there had been a more substantial Republican candidate (such as Brat, my hero) he would beaten Shaheen.

    If the Republican Party in NY State had any brains, they would work on kicking Kirsten Gillebrand’s ass out of the Senate. And I think her ass is kickable. She was appointed to Clinton’s vacated seat, and turned from being a reasonably conservative upstate gal to being a Schumer fembot and a radical feminist.

    But they don’t have any brains. They are brain dead.

  76. WhatEvvs [AKA "Cookies"] says:
    @e
    The immigration issue was how transplanted MA resident Scott Brown, carrying the burden of "carpetbagger," almost overtook Shaheen in NH. He was far behind until he began hitting the Dems on amnesty and immigration, in a state about as far from our southern border as you can get.
    I think another two/three days of campaigning and he'd have beaten her.

    PS…”He was far behind until he began hitting the Dems on amnesty and immigration, in a state about as far from our southern border as you can get.”

    This is an indication that he was a lightweight and a phony, and not a man of principle like Brat. Not sure that 3 more days would have changed that.

  77. Democrats have tried to purchase Asians by including them as Socially Disadvantaged Individuals and eligible for taxpayer subsidized loans and price advantages when bidding for government contracts. Yes, this includes state and local governments (as well as big businesses such as Bank of America) who use the Federal criteria.

    Other Socially Disadvantaged Individuals include Black Americans, Hispanic Americans, Native Americans, Asian Pacific Americans and Subcontinent Asian Americans.
    (If I recall correctly, Clinton added Subcontinent Asian Americans to this list.)

    For more info, Google SBA 8a or see SBA.gov. See eligibility requirements.
    “Under federal law, socially disadvantaged individuals are those who have been subjected to racial or ethnic prejudice or cultural bias within American society because of their identification as members of groups without regard to their individual qualities.”

    • Replies: @map
    Thank you. This is exactly what is going on.

    Behold your model minorities.

    http://www.commerce.gov/os/ogc/minority-business-development-agency

    "For purposes of determining eligibility to receive MBDA services, an MBE is defined as a business concern that is owned or controlled by the following persons or groups of persons that are also U.S. citizens or resident aliens admitted for lawful admission to the United States: African Americans, Hispanics, Asian and Pacific Islander Americans, Native Americans (including Alaska Natives, Alaska Native Corporations and Tribal entities), Asian Indians and Hasidic Jews. See 15 CFR § 1400.1 and Executive Order 11625. It is important to note that there is no cross-cutting federal MBE classification and the above definition does not serve to establish eligibility for federal programs or services outside of those offered by MBDA."

    This is why you see so many "successful" Asian businesses. You, the taxpaying rube, subsidize their "video-game" businesses.
  78. @anon
    "Why be a citizenist, why not be an internationalist instead, countries are just random lines on a map."

    Because internationalism makes for chaotic labor markets. Most of the big choices that come with being an adult in the modern world, like starting a family or buying a house, are heavily dependent on a person having income/job stability. To people without significant capital, which would be the vast majority, internationalism mostly just brings increased labor market instability. Capitalists on the other hand reap huge savings in the labor market savings. So if your rich, you're right: internationalism is an almost pure positive with the extra benefit of claiming the supposed philosophical high ground of it being a more universalist position.

    In a unified labor market you can work in Mexico as an engineer and benefit from the lower cost of living.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Silber
    In a unified labor market you can work in Mexico as an engineer and benefit from the lower cost of living.

    Be that as it may, Mexicans seem to want Mexico to remain Mexican, and not to be overrun by tens of millions of foreigners of different ethnicities and cultures. The Diversity that among the so-called elites of Western nations is the be-all and end-all of life holds little or no appeal elsewhere.
  79. @Steve Sailer
    I don't know. I'm not convinced the exit poll result of 2012 showing Asians overwhelmingly going for Obama was wholly accurate. The competing Reuters-Ipsos panel showed a less extreme result in 2012.

    Oh, yeah. It said “House voting.” My bad.

  80. @ua2
    The area where there is huge differences in the two big statewide offices (gov and senator) is foreign policy. Govs have little to no juice in that arena. Senators do.

    That can explain ticket splitters. I can vote for a low tax gov but a liberal senator who is a dove.

    Good point.

  81. Yep, Ted says something obviously trolling and you guys take the bait like mindless fish.

    You’re really making me want to stop coming here. I miss Steve’s old Blogspot page.

  82. So Asians can replace White people now that half of Asians vote for Republicans? And really as for the Democrats, how left of center are they compared to the UMP, CDU, and Partido Popular? Could an Asian vote for those parties platforms if they were living in Europe? If the answer is yes, then they can also vote for the Democrats.

  83. @Peter Akuleyev
    "I have a feeling that starting in the mid 70′s with Vietnamese refugees a lot of Asian immigrants were low class "

    A lot of those Vietnamese refugees had been fairly important people back in the old country, a lot of them were also ethnic Chinese. I would assume as a group Vietnamese-Americans have significantly higher IQs than the Vietnamese population back home.

    A lot of those Vietnamese refugees had been fairly important people back in the old country, a lot of them were also ethnic Chinese. I would assume as a group Vietnamese-Americans have significantly higher IQs than the Vietnamese population back home.

    Moreover, many of those Vietnamese were/are Roman Catholics, and not the Western “bring out the guitar” kind.

  84. @William Badwhite
    "we’ll laugh at the crying and whining and gnashing of teeth as your dying party tries desperately to stay relevant."

    Thanks Ted. Nothing like a gracious loser! Good luck with Hillary though, I'm sure in two years she'll have learned all the lessons from her lifetime of corruption and stupidity and be just the breath of fresh air you people need - after 8 years of your effete' low-energy dweeb Urkel.

    "Because as your party’s demographics die out, ours grow stronger. Your party can pretend to have the present thanks to gerrymandering and racism and hatred and fear, because the future belongs to progressives and liberals."

    The past belong to progressives and liberals too Special Ed Ted. You idiots have been calling the shots for 50 years and all you've done is wreck a country.

    Anyway what you meant to say was "the future belongs to blacks and hispanics", which is another way of saying America will be just another black/brown run shithole. But don't worry Ted, I'm sure they'll remember you were one of the "good whites" when they mug you or appropriate your property.

    Exactly.

    Washington, DC will look like Ferguson, MO.

  85. @charlie
    Yes, Indians are natural democrats. Ask Neel Kashkari, Bobby Jindal, or Nicky Haley.

    High income people tend to vote Republican. Indians have by far the highest incomes in the county. The fact they are not voting 90% republican is the amazing part.

    The Ro Khanna/Mike Honda race is a good indicator of the money issue.

    Ask Neel Kashkari, Bobby Jindal, or Nicky Haley.

    Jindal is a Catholic convert and Haley is a Methodist. They are completely unrepresentative of the vast majority of South Asian populations in the U.S. who are non-Christians and vote heavily for Democrats.

    High income people tend to vote Republican. Indians have by far the highest incomes in the county. The fact they are not voting 90% republican is the amazing part.

    The GOP is the party of middle class, college graduates. Democrats attract both the low end and the very high end economically/educationally.

    Ever hear the old expression “Jews earn like Episcopalians but vote like Puerto Ricans?”

    Religion is a far better predictor of party affiliation than income is in the United States. That’s why the most Republican of Asians are Koreans (heavily evangelical Protestant in the U.S.) and Vietnamese (Catholic).

  86. @JayMan

    Again, I question why the GOP is not being more explicitly anti-illegal immigration. It can be done in ways to appeal to anxious lower middle class whites in the Rust Belt without looking “racist.”
     
    Except the Rust Belt Whites don't seem that worried about immigration:

    Mapping 20 Million Facebook Users' Political Sentiment - WSJ.com

    They are worried about "economic equality and mobility," however. A failure to connect the dots, perhaps?

    Except the Rust Belt Whites don’t seem that worried about immigration:

    Mapping 20 Million Facebook Users’ Political Sentiment – WSJ.com

    They are worried about “economic equality and mobility,” however. A failure to connect the dots, perhaps?

    No kidding. Somebody please connect the dots for them… without “sounding racist.”

  87. @North Carolina Resident
    Democrats have tried to purchase Asians by including them as Socially Disadvantaged Individuals and eligible for taxpayer subsidized loans and price advantages when bidding for government contracts. Yes, this includes state and local governments (as well as big businesses such as Bank of America) who use the Federal criteria.

    Other Socially Disadvantaged Individuals include Black Americans, Hispanic Americans, Native Americans, Asian Pacific Americans and Subcontinent Asian Americans.
    (If I recall correctly, Clinton added Subcontinent Asian Americans to this list.)

    For more info, Google SBA 8a or see SBA.gov. See eligibility requirements.
    "Under federal law, socially disadvantaged individuals are those who have been subjected to racial or ethnic prejudice or cultural bias within American society because of their identification as members of groups without regard to their individual qualities."

    Thank you. This is exactly what is going on.

    Behold your model minorities.

    http://www.commerce.gov/os/ogc/minority-business-development-agency

    “For purposes of determining eligibility to receive MBDA services, an MBE is defined as a business concern that is owned or controlled by the following persons or groups of persons that are also U.S. citizens or resident aliens admitted for lawful admission to the United States: African Americans, Hispanics, Asian and Pacific Islander Americans, Native Americans (including Alaska Natives, Alaska Native Corporations and Tribal entities), Asian Indians and Hasidic Jews. See 15 CFR § 1400.1 and Executive Order 11625. It is important to note that there is no cross-cutting federal MBE classification and the above definition does not serve to establish eligibility for federal programs or services outside of those offered by MBDA.”

    This is why you see so many “successful” Asian businesses. You, the taxpaying rube, subsidize their “video-game” businesses.

  88. @Lurker

    Until the 90′s, Asian-Americans voted overwhelmingly for the GOP, often at higher rates than whites did. In other words, Asians “voted white” more than whites did!
     
    I'm not sure that's true, not going by some older exit polls I was looking at, more like 60% Democrat. Sorry, can't find the numbers right now.

    I’m not sure that’s true, not going by some older exit polls I was looking at, more like 60% Democrat. Sorry, can’t find the numbers right now.

    See: http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/elections/how_groups_voted/voted_92.html

    In the 1992 presidential election, here was the racial breakdown:

    Whites: Clinton 39%, Bush 41%, Perot 21%
    Blacks: Clinton 83%,Bush 10%, Perot 7%
    Hispanics: Clinton 61%, Bush 25%, Perot 14%
    Asians: Clinton 31%, Bush 55%, Perot 15%

    Again, prior to the mid-1990’s, Asians voted heavily for Republicans and heavily against Democrats, often at higher rates than whites did. They were in some ways whiter than white voters. Then this trend began to change since that time, reaching a crescendo of the two Obama elections.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    The problem is that national exit polls didn't start breaking out Asians until 1992, and I'm not sure how much to trust any single exit poll data point.
    , @rvg
    Considering that East Asian countries have government subsidized health care, why would Asians vote against Obama care, and if Poles vote more for the CDU than German, does this justify replacing the Germans in Germany with Poles?
  89. @Twinkie

    I’m not sure that’s true, not going by some older exit polls I was looking at, more like 60% Democrat. Sorry, can’t find the numbers right now.
     
    See: http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/elections/how_groups_voted/voted_92.html

    In the 1992 presidential election, here was the racial breakdown:

    Whites: Clinton 39%, Bush 41%, Perot 21%
    Blacks: Clinton 83%,Bush 10%, Perot 7%
    Hispanics: Clinton 61%, Bush 25%, Perot 14%
    Asians: Clinton 31%, Bush 55%, Perot 15%

    Again, prior to the mid-1990's, Asians voted heavily for Republicans and heavily against Democrats, often at higher rates than whites did. They were in some ways whiter than white voters. Then this trend began to change since that time, reaching a crescendo of the two Obama elections.

    The problem is that national exit polls didn’t start breaking out Asians until 1992, and I’m not sure how much to trust any single exit poll data point.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    The problem is that national exit polls didn’t start breaking out Asians until 1992, and I’m not sure how much to trust any single exit poll data point.
     
    1. Back when I worked in politics, I had access to proprietary polling data (local/state/national). And the trend was what I described. Until the mid-1990's, Asians voted heavily Republican (with some significant local variations, of course).
    2. If you looked up publicly available polling data starting with 1992, the Asian Republican numbers go down steadily, reaching its lowest with the Obama elections.

    http://themonkeycage.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/asian-demvote1.png
  90. @Seth Largo
    Indians, the most wealthy demographic group in America, favor Democrats. Vietnamese, one of the least wealthy Asian groups in America, favor Republicans. I don't get it.

    Indians, the most wealthy demographic group in America, favor Democrats. Vietnamese, one of the least wealthy Asian groups in America, favor Republicans. I don’t get it.

    You have to look beyond materialist explanations to understand American politics, which is mostly about identity.

    Indians are overwhelmingly non-Christians and act more like Jewish voters – well-educated, affluent, but highly Democratic. So they, just as Jewish voters do, tend to fear and loathe the “Bible-thumping redneck” citizenry.

    Vietnamese in the U.S. strongly Catholic and therefore vote like white Catholics do. And Vietnamese Catholics tend to be more orthodox, so they often vote “very white.” On top of that, older Vietnamese voters are fiercely anti-communist, so they identify strongly with the GOP like older Cubans.

    There is a similar dynamic at work with Koreans, except instead of Catholics, they are evangelical Protestants.

    Another thing to note is that the assimilation/intermarriage rates are much higher with the Vietnamese and the Koreans. They tend to marry whites at much higher rates than Indians/South Asians.

  91. @Steve Sailer
    The problem is that national exit polls didn't start breaking out Asians until 1992, and I'm not sure how much to trust any single exit poll data point.

    The problem is that national exit polls didn’t start breaking out Asians until 1992, and I’m not sure how much to trust any single exit poll data point.

    1. Back when I worked in politics, I had access to proprietary polling data (local/state/national). And the trend was what I described. Until the mid-1990’s, Asians voted heavily Republican (with some significant local variations, of course).
    2. If you looked up publicly available polling data starting with 1992, the Asian Republican numbers go down steadily, reaching its lowest with the Obama elections.

  92. Why are Chinese Americans democrats?

  93. My point was that if you do not think your people is worth fighting for, then why fight for some random lines on a map, would a North American union be really so bad? I mean your people will be gone or bred out, so why worry what happens to the place thereafter?

  94. @AnAnon
    "- I don’t think the GOP’s 60% of the white vote is enough to win the White House in 2016."
    its not.

    "- After all the huffing and puffing by the media over Ferguson, the GOP wound up doing fine among blacks, getting 10% of their vote."
    2 black candidates ran for the GOP, thats probably what happened there.

    "- The GOP’s strong showing among Asians is interesting."
    I'd suspect this is about the CA governor's race.

    "1. I think it underestimates the percentage of the electorate today that was white and overestimates the percentage that was non-white, especially black." - 75% is about right, the GOP needs to go after northern working class white voters if it wants to win.

    Nah, the black GOPers weren’t running where a black vote was relevant. Honestly, blacks are likely to tack right as the economy worsens, probably going to 15-20% R. For various reasons they aren’t going hit their peak of 40+% R anytime soon, but they could easily get close to their FDR-era numbers. Before the CRA, there was a substantial black libertarian voting pool. It’s still there, more or less, but unlikely to turn out to vote as it once did.

  95. @Twinkie

    I’m not sure that’s true, not going by some older exit polls I was looking at, more like 60% Democrat. Sorry, can’t find the numbers right now.
     
    See: http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/elections/how_groups_voted/voted_92.html

    In the 1992 presidential election, here was the racial breakdown:

    Whites: Clinton 39%, Bush 41%, Perot 21%
    Blacks: Clinton 83%,Bush 10%, Perot 7%
    Hispanics: Clinton 61%, Bush 25%, Perot 14%
    Asians: Clinton 31%, Bush 55%, Perot 15%

    Again, prior to the mid-1990's, Asians voted heavily for Republicans and heavily against Democrats, often at higher rates than whites did. They were in some ways whiter than white voters. Then this trend began to change since that time, reaching a crescendo of the two Obama elections.

    Considering that East Asian countries have government subsidized health care, why would Asians vote against Obama care, and if Poles vote more for the CDU than German, does this justify replacing the Germans in Germany with Poles?

    • Replies: @eah
    Considering that East Asian countries have government subsidized health care, why would Asians vote against Obama care

    Uhh, just a guess here: because "East Asian" countries are full of other 'East Asians', they are more socially cohesive and therefore 'East Asians' don't mind paying into healthcare that benefits other people like them? Unlike Obamacare, which forces 'East Asians' to subsidize tens of millions of underclass Blacks and Hispanics who mostly hate 'East Asians'. Maybe that could have something to do with it.
    , @Twinkie

    Considering that East Asian countries have government subsidized health care, why would Asians vote against Obama care
     
    Actually I think Obamacare - conceptually - is quite popular with Asians in general. I suspect they don't care for the actual, real-life result of it though.

    if Poles vote more for the CDU than German, does this justify replacing the Germans in Germany with Poles?
     
    Absolutely not.

    You must be under some mistaken impression that I support replacement of white Americans by Asians. I don't. I oppose all illegal and any large-scale legal immigration from Asia.

    Like Derbyshire, I think that a SMALL amount of highly select East Asian immigration can be assimilated successfully, like a bit of salt in a soup. They should be the right kind of immigrants though (for starters, well-educated and Christian).

    In any case, East Asians have even lower fertility than white Americans, so they are not so much of a race-replacement concern (and immigration from the more affluent parts of East Asia have trailed off significantly).

    Have you looked at these folks called "Hispanics" lately?
  96. At the rate Asians are coming in, even with intermarriage rates whole areas of the US will still look like Vancouver rather than Stockholm in 1950, and those Eurasians will marry Blacks and Latinos due to pop culture, and they will look like Turks or Arabs rather than Whites.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    At the rate Asians are coming in, even with intermarriage rates whole areas of the US will still look like Vancouver rather than Stockholm in 1950, and those Eurasians will marry Blacks and Latinos due to pop culture, and they will look like Turks or Arabs rather than Whites.
     
    See: http://publicagendaarchives.org/files/charts/ff_immigration_origin_of_illegal_immigrants.png

    Um, yeah, which origin country is the 500 lb gorilla of illegal immigration?

    Also, most "Eurasians" marry whites. Even 35-45% of American-born Asians marry whites (and among American-born EAST Asians that number is probably much higher).

    Even without Asians, most metros in the U.S. would not resemble "Stockholm in 1950."
  97. @rvg
    Considering that East Asian countries have government subsidized health care, why would Asians vote against Obama care, and if Poles vote more for the CDU than German, does this justify replacing the Germans in Germany with Poles?

    Considering that East Asian countries have government subsidized health care, why would Asians vote against Obama care

    Uhh, just a guess here: because “East Asian” countries are full of other ‘East Asians’, they are more socially cohesive and therefore ‘East Asians’ don’t mind paying into healthcare that benefits other people like them? Unlike Obamacare, which forces ‘East Asians’ to subsidize tens of millions of underclass Blacks and Hispanics who mostly hate ‘East Asians’. Maybe that could have something to do with it.

  98. Protestant and Catholic Whites, Koreans (largely Christian), Filipinos (Catholic), Vietnamese (Catholic), and Japanese (the only group in Asia that claims to reincarnate as whites!) form a natural voting block, one that leans Republican.

    African-Americans, Latinos, South Asians (non-Christian), and Jews are another natural voting block, one that leans Democratic. Just look at the number of Jews, blacks, and South Asians on TV, they are hugely overrepresented.

    The Chinese are a tossup at this point – time will tell although the Chinese are converting to Christianity at a rapid rate, and soon China may become the world’s most populous Christian country.

    Moreover, 60,000 legally immigrate to this country every year from China, India, Korea, and the Phillippines EACH.

    Thus the Republicans may retain their electoral dominance if the whites ally themselves with East and South-East Asians.

    • Replies: @rvg
    Which justifies population replacement? If Pakistanis can be made to vote Conservative the English can be driven off or breeded out then>
    , @Twinkie

    Protestant and Catholic Whites, Koreans (largely Christian), Filipinos (Catholic), Vietnamese (Catholic), and Japanese (the only group in Asia that claims to reincarnate as whites!) form a natural voting block, one that leans Republican.
     
    Japanese-Americans do not vote Republican. They vote like highly-educated whites, which is to say, Democratic.

    The Chinese are a tossup at this point – time will tell although the Chinese are converting to Christianity at a rapid rate, and soon China may become the world’s most populous Christian country.
     
    That may be. I am hopeful. HOWEVER, for the foreseeable future, a majority of Chinese-Americans will continue to vote for the Democrats.

    Thus the Republicans may retain their electoral dominance if the whites ally themselves with East and South-East Asians.
     
    I wish it were that easy. Unfortunately, the overall long-term Asian voting trend tilts Democratic, not Republican (with a couple of exceptions). There are several reasons for this:

    1. Change in the immigrant demographic: there are increasingly more Chinese and Indian immigrants among the overall Asian immigrant cohorts, and these lean heavily Democratic.
    2. Demise of anti-communism: older Korean and Vietnamese voters who remember communist oppression and are grateful to the United States are, well, getting older and dying out, and are not being replenished.
    3. Leftist indoctrination and "multiculturalism": younger Asian-Americans are now heavily indoctrinated at universities by leftist multiculturalism and are being steeped in racial identity and grievance politics.
    4. Asians, especially at the elite level, are assimilating, not into the traditional Anglo-American culture, but the mass culture of the SWPL, which Samuel Huntington described perfectly in "Dead Souls: the Denationalization of the American elite." In other words, they are aping the wrong kind of whites.
  99. @rvg
    Considering that East Asian countries have government subsidized health care, why would Asians vote against Obama care, and if Poles vote more for the CDU than German, does this justify replacing the Germans in Germany with Poles?

    Considering that East Asian countries have government subsidized health care, why would Asians vote against Obama care

    Actually I think Obamacare – conceptually – is quite popular with Asians in general. I suspect they don’t care for the actual, real-life result of it though.

    if Poles vote more for the CDU than German, does this justify replacing the Germans in Germany with Poles?

    Absolutely not.

    You must be under some mistaken impression that I support replacement of white Americans by Asians. I don’t. I oppose all illegal and any large-scale legal immigration from Asia.

    Like Derbyshire, I think that a SMALL amount of highly select East Asian immigration can be assimilated successfully, like a bit of salt in a soup. They should be the right kind of immigrants though (for starters, well-educated and Christian).

    In any case, East Asians have even lower fertility than white Americans, so they are not so much of a race-replacement concern (and immigration from the more affluent parts of East Asia have trailed off significantly).

    Have you looked at these folks called “Hispanics” lately?

    • Replies: @rvg
    Unlike Asians, Hispanics at least have some connections to Europe by ancestry and have a largely European derived culture.
  100. @rvg
    At the rate Asians are coming in, even with intermarriage rates whole areas of the US will still look like Vancouver rather than Stockholm in 1950, and those Eurasians will marry Blacks and Latinos due to pop culture, and they will look like Turks or Arabs rather than Whites.

    At the rate Asians are coming in, even with intermarriage rates whole areas of the US will still look like Vancouver rather than Stockholm in 1950, and those Eurasians will marry Blacks and Latinos due to pop culture, and they will look like Turks or Arabs rather than Whites.

    See:

    Um, yeah, which origin country is the 500 lb gorilla of illegal immigration?

    Also, most “Eurasians” marry whites. Even 35-45% of American-born Asians marry whites (and among American-born EAST Asians that number is probably much higher).

    Even without Asians, most metros in the U.S. would not resemble “Stockholm in 1950.”

    • Replies: @Anon

    Even without Asians, most metros in the U.S. would not resemble “Stockholm in 1950.”
     
    Moscow is more likely, with people that have strongly Asiatic features. High-profile examples would be Boris Yeltsin, Sergei Shoygu and Olga Kurylenko.
    , @Anonymous
    With Whites making up less than half of the latest age cohort, and a lot of those whites having relationships with blacks and latinos, how many "white" whites would there be left for asians? As opposed to "white "people who look like George Zimmerman and mulattos and quadroons? If Zimmerman has children with an asian woman the result would look as white as the Rock. Basically your "white" person in the year 2030 will look like Zidane or Hosni Mubarak.
  101. @Anon 1
    Protestant and Catholic Whites, Koreans (largely Christian), Filipinos (Catholic), Vietnamese (Catholic), and Japanese (the only group in Asia that claims to reincarnate as whites!) form a natural voting block, one that leans Republican.

    African-Americans, Latinos, South Asians (non-Christian), and Jews are another natural voting block, one that leans Democratic. Just look at the number of Jews, blacks, and South Asians on TV, they are hugely overrepresented.

    The Chinese are a tossup at this point - time will tell although the Chinese are converting to Christianity at a rapid rate, and soon China may become the world's most populous Christian country.

    Moreover, 60,000 legally immigrate to this country every year from China, India, Korea, and the Phillippines EACH.

    Thus the Republicans may retain their electoral dominance if the whites ally themselves with East and South-East Asians.

    Which justifies population replacement? If Pakistanis can be made to vote Conservative the English can be driven off or breeded out then>

  102. @Twinkie

    Considering that East Asian countries have government subsidized health care, why would Asians vote against Obama care
     
    Actually I think Obamacare - conceptually - is quite popular with Asians in general. I suspect they don't care for the actual, real-life result of it though.

    if Poles vote more for the CDU than German, does this justify replacing the Germans in Germany with Poles?
     
    Absolutely not.

    You must be under some mistaken impression that I support replacement of white Americans by Asians. I don't. I oppose all illegal and any large-scale legal immigration from Asia.

    Like Derbyshire, I think that a SMALL amount of highly select East Asian immigration can be assimilated successfully, like a bit of salt in a soup. They should be the right kind of immigrants though (for starters, well-educated and Christian).

    In any case, East Asians have even lower fertility than white Americans, so they are not so much of a race-replacement concern (and immigration from the more affluent parts of East Asia have trailed off significantly).

    Have you looked at these folks called "Hispanics" lately?

    Unlike Asians, Hispanics at least have some connections to Europe by ancestry and have a largely European derived culture.

  103. @Anon 1
    Protestant and Catholic Whites, Koreans (largely Christian), Filipinos (Catholic), Vietnamese (Catholic), and Japanese (the only group in Asia that claims to reincarnate as whites!) form a natural voting block, one that leans Republican.

    African-Americans, Latinos, South Asians (non-Christian), and Jews are another natural voting block, one that leans Democratic. Just look at the number of Jews, blacks, and South Asians on TV, they are hugely overrepresented.

    The Chinese are a tossup at this point - time will tell although the Chinese are converting to Christianity at a rapid rate, and soon China may become the world's most populous Christian country.

    Moreover, 60,000 legally immigrate to this country every year from China, India, Korea, and the Phillippines EACH.

    Thus the Republicans may retain their electoral dominance if the whites ally themselves with East and South-East Asians.

    Protestant and Catholic Whites, Koreans (largely Christian), Filipinos (Catholic), Vietnamese (Catholic), and Japanese (the only group in Asia that claims to reincarnate as whites!) form a natural voting block, one that leans Republican.

    Japanese-Americans do not vote Republican. They vote like highly-educated whites, which is to say, Democratic.

    The Chinese are a tossup at this point – time will tell although the Chinese are converting to Christianity at a rapid rate, and soon China may become the world’s most populous Christian country.

    That may be. I am hopeful. HOWEVER, for the foreseeable future, a majority of Chinese-Americans will continue to vote for the Democrats.

    Thus the Republicans may retain their electoral dominance if the whites ally themselves with East and South-East Asians.

    I wish it were that easy. Unfortunately, the overall long-term Asian voting trend tilts Democratic, not Republican (with a couple of exceptions). There are several reasons for this:

    1. Change in the immigrant demographic: there are increasingly more Chinese and Indian immigrants among the overall Asian immigrant cohorts, and these lean heavily Democratic.
    2. Demise of anti-communism: older Korean and Vietnamese voters who remember communist oppression and are grateful to the United States are, well, getting older and dying out, and are not being replenished.
    3. Leftist indoctrination and “multiculturalism”: younger Asian-Americans are now heavily indoctrinated at universities by leftist multiculturalism and are being steeped in racial identity and grievance politics.
    4. Asians, especially at the elite level, are assimilating, not into the traditional Anglo-American culture, but the mass culture of the SWPL, which Samuel Huntington described perfectly in “Dead Souls: the Denationalization of the American elite.” In other words, they are aping the wrong kind of whites.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    With whites making up 40% percent of the suceeding age cohorts, and a lot of those whites being quadroons or 1/4 Mexican, even Asians that like to marry Whites will have to content themselves with whites that look like Rafik Hariri instead of like say, someone from ABBA.
  104. @Twinkie

    At the rate Asians are coming in, even with intermarriage rates whole areas of the US will still look like Vancouver rather than Stockholm in 1950, and those Eurasians will marry Blacks and Latinos due to pop culture, and they will look like Turks or Arabs rather than Whites.
     
    See: http://publicagendaarchives.org/files/charts/ff_immigration_origin_of_illegal_immigrants.png

    Um, yeah, which origin country is the 500 lb gorilla of illegal immigration?

    Also, most "Eurasians" marry whites. Even 35-45% of American-born Asians marry whites (and among American-born EAST Asians that number is probably much higher).

    Even without Asians, most metros in the U.S. would not resemble "Stockholm in 1950."

    Even without Asians, most metros in the U.S. would not resemble “Stockholm in 1950.”

    Moscow is more likely, with people that have strongly Asiatic features. High-profile examples would be Boris Yeltsin, Sergei Shoygu and Olga Kurylenko.

  105. “Another thing to note is that the assimilation/intermarriage rates are much higher with the Vietnamese and the Koreans.”

    Actually Filipinos in the U.S intermarry with Whites at an even higher rate than the Vietnamese and the Koreans.
    http://www.asian-nation.org/interracial.shtml

    Which should not be surprising because Filipino Americans share the same religion as most Polish Americans, Italian Americans, Irish Americans, French Cajun Americans, etc.

    Filipinos are an Asian group who practice a Western religion (Catholicism). I even read an article that Mormonism is starting to grow in popularity in Philippines. I wonder how many Filipina women who convert to Mormonism end up marrying a Whit male Mormon missionary. Probably a decent number do.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    How many of those Asian women white people take back home from Asia are bar girls and the like?
    , @Anonymous
    They make good cooks.
  106. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    At the rate Asians are coming in, even with intermarriage rates whole areas of the US will still look like Vancouver rather than Stockholm in 1950, and those Eurasians will marry Blacks and Latinos due to pop culture, and they will look like Turks or Arabs rather than Whites.
     
    See: http://publicagendaarchives.org/files/charts/ff_immigration_origin_of_illegal_immigrants.png

    Um, yeah, which origin country is the 500 lb gorilla of illegal immigration?

    Also, most "Eurasians" marry whites. Even 35-45% of American-born Asians marry whites (and among American-born EAST Asians that number is probably much higher).

    Even without Asians, most metros in the U.S. would not resemble "Stockholm in 1950."

    With Whites making up less than half of the latest age cohort, and a lot of those whites having relationships with blacks and latinos, how many “white” whites would there be left for asians? As opposed to “white “people who look like George Zimmerman and mulattos and quadroons? If Zimmerman has children with an asian woman the result would look as white as the Rock. Basically your “white” person in the year 2030 will look like Zidane or Hosni Mubarak.

  107. @Jefferson
    "Another thing to note is that the assimilation/intermarriage rates are much higher with the Vietnamese and the Koreans."

    Actually Filipinos in the U.S intermarry with Whites at an even higher rate than the Vietnamese and the Koreans.
    http://www.asian-nation.org/interracial.shtml

    Which should not be surprising because Filipino Americans share the same religion as most Polish Americans, Italian Americans, Irish Americans, French Cajun Americans, etc.

    Filipinos are an Asian group who practice a Western religion (Catholicism). I even read an article that Mormonism is starting to grow in popularity in Philippines. I wonder how many Filipina women who convert to Mormonism end up marrying a Whit male Mormon missionary. Probably a decent number do.

    How many of those Asian women white people take back home from Asia are bar girls and the like?

  108. By 2030 the average “white” person would look like Hosni Mubarak or Dwane Johnson anyway.

  109. @Twinkie

    Protestant and Catholic Whites, Koreans (largely Christian), Filipinos (Catholic), Vietnamese (Catholic), and Japanese (the only group in Asia that claims to reincarnate as whites!) form a natural voting block, one that leans Republican.
     
    Japanese-Americans do not vote Republican. They vote like highly-educated whites, which is to say, Democratic.

    The Chinese are a tossup at this point – time will tell although the Chinese are converting to Christianity at a rapid rate, and soon China may become the world’s most populous Christian country.
     
    That may be. I am hopeful. HOWEVER, for the foreseeable future, a majority of Chinese-Americans will continue to vote for the Democrats.

    Thus the Republicans may retain their electoral dominance if the whites ally themselves with East and South-East Asians.
     
    I wish it were that easy. Unfortunately, the overall long-term Asian voting trend tilts Democratic, not Republican (with a couple of exceptions). There are several reasons for this:

    1. Change in the immigrant demographic: there are increasingly more Chinese and Indian immigrants among the overall Asian immigrant cohorts, and these lean heavily Democratic.
    2. Demise of anti-communism: older Korean and Vietnamese voters who remember communist oppression and are grateful to the United States are, well, getting older and dying out, and are not being replenished.
    3. Leftist indoctrination and "multiculturalism": younger Asian-Americans are now heavily indoctrinated at universities by leftist multiculturalism and are being steeped in racial identity and grievance politics.
    4. Asians, especially at the elite level, are assimilating, not into the traditional Anglo-American culture, but the mass culture of the SWPL, which Samuel Huntington described perfectly in "Dead Souls: the Denationalization of the American elite." In other words, they are aping the wrong kind of whites.

    With whites making up 40% percent of the suceeding age cohorts, and a lot of those whites being quadroons or 1/4 Mexican, even Asians that like to marry Whites will have to content themselves with whites that look like Rafik Hariri instead of like say, someone from ABBA.

  110. Actually if I am rich and own a service business, what is not not like about Mexican illegals, they sure are willing to work for lower wages, and unlike the Irish labor of the past are not smart enough to go Michael Collins on their employers.

  111. @Jefferson
    "Another thing to note is that the assimilation/intermarriage rates are much higher with the Vietnamese and the Koreans."

    Actually Filipinos in the U.S intermarry with Whites at an even higher rate than the Vietnamese and the Koreans.
    http://www.asian-nation.org/interracial.shtml

    Which should not be surprising because Filipino Americans share the same religion as most Polish Americans, Italian Americans, Irish Americans, French Cajun Americans, etc.

    Filipinos are an Asian group who practice a Western religion (Catholicism). I even read an article that Mormonism is starting to grow in popularity in Philippines. I wonder how many Filipina women who convert to Mormonism end up marrying a Whit male Mormon missionary. Probably a decent number do.

    They make good cooks.

  112. @Ted
    In 2 years when Hillary is sworn in, we'll laugh at the collective temper tantrum from the right. And in 6-8 years when the Democrats have another Super Majority (thanks in part to just how fucking awful your party is), we'll laugh at the crying and whining and gnashing of teeth as your dying party tries desperately to stay relevant.

    So yes, enjoy a mid-term victory that means nothing thanks to Obama's veto pen, and start counting down the days. Because as your party's demographics die out, ours grow stronger. Your party can pretend to have the present thanks to gerrymandering and racism and hatred and fear, because the future belongs to progressives and liberals.

    Actually, it’s your demographic that is dying out. Less than 20% of Americans consider themselves “liberals” and the number gets smaller year after year. Oh well.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Before the 19th century patriotism did not exist, and the concept was only in vogue recently, if your kind are going to go gone, what is that point about caring what happens to your country anyway.
  113. @Anonymous
    In a unified labor market you can work in Mexico as an engineer and benefit from the lower cost of living.

    In a unified labor market you can work in Mexico as an engineer and benefit from the lower cost of living.

    Be that as it may, Mexicans seem to want Mexico to remain Mexican, and not to be overrun by tens of millions of foreigners of different ethnicities and cultures. The Diversity that among the so-called elites of Western nations is the be-all and end-all of life holds little or no appeal elsewhere.

  114. Talking about about “Asians” as a group offers little insight into their intermarriage patterns and their future identities. Not only do they span a huge range of ethnicities, as others have noticed, but there are major differences between 1st and 2nd generations. ’s comments are pretty much in line with my own observations, and I live in a city and am in a social circle and profession with lots of Asians and Asian Americans.

    A couple of other complicating observations on intermarriage and integration of Asians:

    1st Generation Migrants:
    – Largely un-assimilated Asians in socially isolated populations – Almost exclusively marry other Asians of their own ethnic group (ie Fujianese immigrants who are short order cooks, petty shopkeepers, Pakistani cab drivers and deli managers, etc)
    – Professional / “investor” migrants – Generally older and already married, so not much intermarriage (ie Indian IT workers, Chinese business owners, etc)
    – Student migrants – More likely to intermarry if they stay in the US, but less likely than the 2nd generation.

    2nd Generation:
    – Educated Asian Muslims: Intermarry with other Muslims. There are alot of marriages between people of different South Asian nationalities blurring into a vague South Asian Muslim-American identity.
    – Uneducated Muslims: We (fortunately) don’t have many native born low income Asian Muslims yet.
    – Indians – Agree on the comments on Indian-Americans as SWPLs. One factor over the long run is the huge fall-off from practicing Hinduism for American born Indians – talk to most American children of observant Hindus and they barely have any idea of the religion, and don’t carry on temple worship. If all that separates them over from their peers is a vaguely remembered old country religion, some folk dances, and traditional foods, prospects for full assimilation are pretty good.
    -College Educated Asians – There isn’t much indoctrination of young Asian Americans into dedicated soldiers of progressivism outside a few places like Oberlin. I think most Asian-American college grads are just going along with the flow of what they hear and the mass media (like many of their educated white peers).

  115. I was thinking, a fruit fly, 89% of whose offspring had the wits to fly to rotten fruit, would be a rare success. So I say, “Thank You, African-Americans, for your supermuscan effort!”

  116. @Miguel
    Actually, it's your demographic that is dying out. Less than 20% of Americans consider themselves "liberals" and the number gets smaller year after year. Oh well.

    Before the 19th century patriotism did not exist, and the concept was only in vogue recently, if your kind are going to go gone, what is that point about caring what happens to your country anyway.

  117. @I, Libertine
    A question. What constitutes a Dem or GOP vote for ballot splitters? Many people (or, as Obama would say, a bunch of folks) voted for a Republican governor and a Democrat senator; see, e.g., Illinois and Massachussetts. How were their votes tabulated by the exit pollsters?

    And what motivates these people anyway? They want a smaller state welfare apparratus, but a bigger national one? Is personal popularity that big a factor? Who could be that enthralled with Dick Durban personally? Is Coakley really that revolting?

    OK, that was more than one question.

    Yes, Coakley is really that revolting. Google Keith Winfield.

  118. Neither the Democratic nor the Republican Party need give Blacks the time of day:
    they turn out for Democrats however little more the party throws their way; and Republicans
    have nothing to offer a people who look to the government to take care of them cradle to grave.

    The Republicans, who wiped out the Democrats in the midterms without any greater support from Blacks, would do better, as Steve often points out, to appeal more to White people of both the middle and lower classes.

  119. @Jefferson
    Despite the huge GOP victory in the 2014 midterm elections, I am sure there are districts in the country where the GOP literally got zero percent of the Black vote.

    I know in 2012, Mitt Romney got zero percent of the Black vote in places like East Cleveland and Philadelphia.

    Just by accident or voter-error alone, Romney would have got some votes. 0% suggests that the votes are being, ah, intelligently designed.

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