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This is a low budget, high brow sci-fi movie about a young computer programmer with a likable mug (Domhnall Gleeson, son of the great Brendan). It has been making decent money in a slow roll-out and now is in wide distribution in the U.S.

Albert Brooks’ casually-dressed CEO supervillain

He gets invited by his CEO (Oscar Isaac) to spend a week at his Hank Scorpio-like boss’s fortress of solitude in northern Norway to work on a secret project: can the trillionaire’s creation, a beautiful robot princess (Swedish starlet Alicia Vikander, who will be in eight movies this year), pass the Turing test by getting the lonely nerd to fall in love with her?

The expert cast has much experience with these kind of upscale roles.

Vikander’s very good at playing intelligent, aristocratic young ladies whom bright men want to rescue. Actresses are getting posher these days, and Vikander can give Keira Knightley and Carey Mulligan a run for their old money.

Vikander and Gleeson were cast opposite each other in the subplot of the recent Anna Karenina as Kitty and the proto-hippie idealist Levin.

Ex Machina is even closer to Ms. Vikander’s recent movie A Royal Affair, with a screenplay by Lars von Trier, in which she plays a Voltaire-reading 18th Century Danish queen who has a dangerous affair with her husband’s most Enlightened adviser.

Isaac gets a lot of work these days because he seems like a highly intelligent individual, but too many of his big roles have been in excessively restrained movies like Inside Llewyn Davis and A Most Violent Year. Here Isaac finally gets to show off, chewing the scenery as an egomaniacal Dr. Frankenstein who thinks he’s always one step ahead of his underling.

The dialogue isn’t bad, although the sets look like they would have been cutting edge in 1995. Ex Machina is directed by Alex Garland, Danny Boyle’s sci-fi screenwriter (28 Days Later and Sunshine), moving up to the director’s chair. Not surprisingly, it’s talky and static, but not in a bad way.

 
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  1. ……hah……nobody ever chooses Italy!

  2. Fun thing about Oscar Isaac*? The way that the lumpengentsia try to convince themselves that he’s not a White man.

    *http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/oscar-isaac-658886

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @syonredux

    All that list says is that he's hispanic. Anti immigration and pro immigration people are just as likely to erroneously say that hispanic and white are mutually exclusive.

    That being said you don't know for sure what his exact racial background is

    Replies: @syonredux

    , @Lex Corvus
    @syonredux

    For convenience, here's a linked version of the Isaac URL: Oscar Isaac

    , @emilio zapata
    @syonredux

    He could play a Mexican and I'll find it believable.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Dave Pinsen

    , @Anonymous
    @syonredux

    He's olive skinned and looks ethnic. That's what they mean.

  3. “…pass the Turing test by getting the lonely nerd to fall in love with her?”

    This seems like a very low bar.

  4. @syonredux
    Fun thing about Oscar Isaac*? The way that the lumpengentsia try to convince themselves that he's not a White man.





    *http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/oscar-isaac-658886

    Replies: @anonymous, @Lex Corvus, @emilio zapata, @Anonymous

    All that list says is that he’s hispanic. Anti immigration and pro immigration people are just as likely to erroneously say that hispanic and white are mutually exclusive.

    That being said you don’t know for sure what his exact racial background is

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @anonymous


    All that list says is that he’s hispanic. Anti immigration and pro immigration people are just as likely to erroneously say that hispanic and white are mutually exclusive.

    That being said you don’t know for sure what his exact racial background is
     
    Oh, I'm sure that he has a bit of Amerind blood in there, somewhere.Then again, so does Chuck Norris.


    As I said before, this is a guy who played a fictional version of Bob Dylan (Inside Ilewyn Davis) and King John (Robin Hood).Guys who aren't White don't get cast in those kinds of parts.


    Real Hispanic Amerinds/Mestizos (Mestizo as in being more than 25% Amerind) are boring.That's why Hollywood prefers White/mostly White Hispanic actors: Ricardo Montalban, Jose Ferrer Cesar Romero, Anthony Quinn, etc
  5. RE: Oscar Isaac and the PC Left’s attempt to find a Mestizo-Amerind leading man,

    As noted in the previous post, they’ve tried awfully hard to convince themselves that the guy who played King John for Ridley Scott isn’t White.But their frustration comes from the fact that Hollywood can’t seem to find a an actual Hispanic Amerind/Mestizo leading man.So, they’ve got to grasp at White guys with Spanish surnames/Latin American ancestry.

    Case in point: Texas Rising.It’s a History Channel docudrama on the Texas War of independence that will air later this month.Guess who’s going to play General Santa Ana? Olivier Martinez, a French actor whose father was Spanish……

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @syonredux

    "RE: Oscar Isaac and the PC Left’s attempt to find a Mestizo-Amerind leading man,

    As noted in the previous post, they’ve tried awfully hard to convince themselves that the guy who played King John for Ridley Scott isn’t White.But their frustration comes from the fact that Hollywood can’t seem to find a an actual Hispanic Amerind/Mestizo leading man.So, they’ve got to grasp at White guys with Spanish surnames/Latin American ancestry.

    Case in point: Texas Rising.It’s a History Channel docudrama on the Texas War of independence that will air later this month.Guess who’s going to play General Santa Ana? Olivier Martinez, a French actor whose father was Spanish……"

    How many Mestizo/Amerindian Hispanic males are actually decent looking enough to be leading man material in Hollywood? Most of them are quite ugly in the looks department. There is a reason why you do not see a lot of White women dating Aztec looking Hispanic males.

  6. Oh, it’s the poor hacker guy from Dredd.

    • Replies: @gruff
    @IHTG

    It's the writer of Dredd too, Alex Garland. God that movie kicks ass.

  7. @syonredux
    Fun thing about Oscar Isaac*? The way that the lumpengentsia try to convince themselves that he's not a White man.





    *http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/oscar-isaac-658886

    Replies: @anonymous, @Lex Corvus, @emilio zapata, @Anonymous

    For convenience, here’s a linked version of the Isaac URL: Oscar Isaac

  8. @syonredux
    Fun thing about Oscar Isaac*? The way that the lumpengentsia try to convince themselves that he's not a White man.





    *http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/oscar-isaac-658886

    Replies: @anonymous, @Lex Corvus, @emilio zapata, @Anonymous

    He could play a Mexican and I’ll find it believable.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @emilio zapata


    He could play a Mexican and I’ll find it believable.
     
    I could play a Mexican, and you would find it believable. Doesn't change the brute facts of race.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    @emilio zapata

    One of the whitest guys in boxing today is a Mexican, Saul "Canelo" Alvarez. Here's him versus James Kirkland last week: https://youtu.be/LehQX1bbGQk

    Replies: @prosa123

  9. I thought Oscar Isaac was Jewish. He shares a resemblance to David Krumholtz. He might have some Crypto Jewish ancestry by way of Iberia.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Jefferson


    I thought Oscar Isaac was Jewish. He shares a resemblance to David Krumholtz. He might have some Crypto Jewish ancestry by way of Iberia.
     
    Here he is describing his background:

    Of his roots, Oscar said, “My grandfather was French in Guatemala and my father is Cuban but he grew up in the States as well. I came to the States when I was five months old and I grew up my entire life mostly in Miami, between Miami and New York.”

    He is the third Oscar in the family. “My father and my grandfather were both named Oscar,” he revealed. “I am the third Oscar. It’s from the Academy Awards. Isaac is Jewish from my father side. I am definitely a big mix of many things.”
     
    http://www.goldenglobes.com/nominee-profiles/oscar-isaac-inside-llewyn-davis-5971

    So, French and Jewish (Sephardic?) .No reference to Amerind or Black ancestry.If he has any, it's quite low.


    The sweet spot for Hollywood liberals.A White guy who can, via the magic of the Hispanic category and a Southern European phenotype, quasi-plausibly claim non-White status.
  10. Oscar Isaac has a likable screen presence. First saw him in Body of Lies as DiCaprio’s Iraqi helper and was very surprised that he’s not Arab. As King John in Robin Hood he played a bad guy but was still likeable. He was the only highlight in the otherwise dull movies Inside Llewyn Davis and A Most Violent Year.

    Here’s his page at jewornotjew: http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=1855

    they rate him as barely a jew

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @jesse

    The real King John was a blond, blue-eyed Nordic type as you would expect a Norman to be. It's interesting that a dark guy is always cast to play him. I guess even in our PC world the entertainment industry can't always get away from the stereotype of the darker villain.

  11. The VFX of Ex Machina were impressive.
    We take it for granted, but that would have been stunning and insanely expensive not many years. Cheap VFX means we can get low budget, art-house sci-fi flicks. Which is fun.
    I look forward to seeing what people make.

    • Replies: @PapayaSF
    @Chang

    From your lips to God's ears, Chang. If only Hollywood made more good low- and mid-budget science fiction films, now that they have the ability to do quality effects on low budgets. Unfortunately, they seem to be addicted to big budgets and expensive stars.

    Ex Machina is excellent, by the way.

  12. I enjoyed Ex Machina.
    The ending was kinda lame, but endings are always the hardest in scifi.
    I enjoyed that the trailer misled me.

  13. @syonredux
    RE: Oscar Isaac and the PC Left's attempt to find a Mestizo-Amerind leading man,

    As noted in the previous post, they've tried awfully hard to convince themselves that the guy who played King John for Ridley Scott isn't White.But their frustration comes from the fact that Hollywood can't seem to find a an actual Hispanic Amerind/Mestizo leading man.So, they've got to grasp at White guys with Spanish surnames/Latin American ancestry.


    Case in point: Texas Rising.It's a History Channel docudrama on the Texas War of independence that will air later this month.Guess who's going to play General Santa Ana? Olivier Martinez, a French actor whose father was Spanish......

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “RE: Oscar Isaac and the PC Left’s attempt to find a Mestizo-Amerind leading man,

    As noted in the previous post, they’ve tried awfully hard to convince themselves that the guy who played King John for Ridley Scott isn’t White.But their frustration comes from the fact that Hollywood can’t seem to find a an actual Hispanic Amerind/Mestizo leading man.So, they’ve got to grasp at White guys with Spanish surnames/Latin American ancestry.

    Case in point: Texas Rising.It’s a History Channel docudrama on the Texas War of independence that will air later this month.Guess who’s going to play General Santa Ana? Olivier Martinez, a French actor whose father was Spanish……”

    How many Mestizo/Amerindian Hispanic males are actually decent looking enough to be leading man material in Hollywood? Most of them are quite ugly in the looks department. There is a reason why you do not see a lot of White women dating Aztec looking Hispanic males.

  14. @emilio zapata
    @syonredux

    He could play a Mexican and I'll find it believable.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Dave Pinsen

    He could play a Mexican and I’ll find it believable.

    I could play a Mexican, and you would find it believable. Doesn’t change the brute facts of race.

  15. • Replies: @Wyrd
    @Cracker

    Down with horistic admissions process that is furry compriant with federar raw!

  16. @anonymous
    @syonredux

    All that list says is that he's hispanic. Anti immigration and pro immigration people are just as likely to erroneously say that hispanic and white are mutually exclusive.

    That being said you don't know for sure what his exact racial background is

    Replies: @syonredux

    All that list says is that he’s hispanic. Anti immigration and pro immigration people are just as likely to erroneously say that hispanic and white are mutually exclusive.

    That being said you don’t know for sure what his exact racial background is

    Oh, I’m sure that he has a bit of Amerind blood in there, somewhere.Then again, so does Chuck Norris.

    As I said before, this is a guy who played a fictional version of Bob Dylan (Inside Ilewyn Davis) and King John (Robin Hood).Guys who aren’t White don’t get cast in those kinds of parts.

    Real Hispanic Amerinds/Mestizos (Mestizo as in being more than 25% Amerind) are boring.That’s why Hollywood prefers White/mostly White Hispanic actors: Ricardo Montalban, Jose Ferrer Cesar Romero, Anthony Quinn, etc

  17. @Jefferson
    I thought Oscar Isaac was Jewish. He shares a resemblance to David Krumholtz. He might have some Crypto Jewish ancestry by way of Iberia.

    Replies: @syonredux

    I thought Oscar Isaac was Jewish. He shares a resemblance to David Krumholtz. He might have some Crypto Jewish ancestry by way of Iberia.

    Here he is describing his background:

    Of his roots, Oscar said, “My grandfather was French in Guatemala and my father is Cuban but he grew up in the States as well. I came to the States when I was five months old and I grew up my entire life mostly in Miami, between Miami and New York.”

    He is the third Oscar in the family. “My father and my grandfather were both named Oscar,” he revealed. “I am the third Oscar. It’s from the Academy Awards. Isaac is Jewish from my father side. I am definitely a big mix of many things.”

    http://www.goldenglobes.com/nominee-profiles/oscar-isaac-inside-llewyn-davis-5971

    So, French and Jewish (Sephardic?) .No reference to Amerind or Black ancestry.If he has any, it’s quite low.

    The sweet spot for Hollywood liberals.A White guy who can, via the magic of the Hispanic category and a Southern European phenotype, quasi-plausibly claim non-White status.

  18. “Oh, I’m sure that he has a bit of Amerind blood in there, somewhere.Then again, so does Chuck Norris.

    As I said before, this is a guy who played a fictional version of Bob Dylan (Inside Ilewyn Davis) and King John (Robin Hood).Guys who aren’t White don’t get cast in those kinds of parts.

    Real Hispanic Amerinds/Mestizos (Mestizo as in being more than 25% Amerind) are boring.That’s why Hollywood prefers White/mostly White Hispanic actors: Ricardo Montalban, Jose Ferrer Cesar Romero, Anthony Quinn, etc”

    Anthony Quinn played an Italian in the film “Jungle Fever”. He played the father of John and Nicholas Turturro.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Jefferson


    Anthony Quinn played an Italian in the film “Jungle Fever”. He played the father of John and Nicholas Turturro.
     
    Quinn played Italians, Greeks, you name it.Here's his bio:

    Quinn was born Antonio Rodolfo Quinn Oaxaca on April 21, 1915 in Chihuahua, Mexico during the Mexican Revolution to Manuela (née Oaxaca) and Francisco Quinn, known informally as "Frank" and "Nellie".[1][2] Francisco Quinn was born in Mexico, to an Irish immigrant father from County Cork and a Mexican mother.[3]

    When he was six years old, Quinn attended a Catholic church (even thinking he wanted to become a priest). At age eleven, however, he joined the Pentecostals in the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel (the Pentecostal followers of Aimee Semple McPherson).[5] For a time he played in the church's band and was an apprentice preacher with the renowned evangelist. "I have known most of the great actresses of my time, and not one of them could touch her", Quinn once said of the spellbinding McPherson, whom he credited with inspiring Zorba's gesture of the dramatically outstretched hand. [6]

    Quinn grew up first in El Paso, Texas, and later the Boyle Heights and the Echo Park areas of Los Angeles, California. He attended Hammel Street Elementary School, Belvedere Junior High School, Polytechnic High School and finally Belmont High School in Los Angeles, with future baseball player and General Hospital star John Beradino, but left before graduating. Tucson High School in Arizona, many years later, awarded him an honorary high school diploma.[citation needed]

    As a young man, Quinn boxed professionally to earn money, then studied art and architecture under Frank Lloyd Wright, at Wright's Arizona residence and his Wisconsin studio, Taliesin. The two men became friends. When Quinn mentioned that he was drawn to acting, Wright encouraged him. Quinn said he had been offered $800 per week by a film studio and didn't know what to do. Wright replied, "Take it, you'll never make that much with me."[this quote needs a citation] In a 1999 interview Private Screenings with Robert Osborne. Quinn said the contract was for only $300 per week.[7]
     

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Kylie, @Kylie, @Mr. Anon

  19. After looking at many online images I would say that while Isaac does not look like a typical Hispanic he also is not obviously NON-Hispanic, if that makes any sense. I do not believe he is of 100% European origin.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @prosa123

    "After looking at many online images I would say that while Isaac does not look like a typical Hispanic he also is not obviously NON-Hispanic, if that makes any sense. I do not believe he is of 100% European origin."

    He does not look like a Northern European WASP but if he said he was a Turk or a Greek for example, I would believe him. In others word he looks Caucasoid using the 3 race system.

    , @syonredux
    @prosa123


    After looking at many online images I would say that while Isaac does not look like a typical Hispanic he also is not obviously NON-Hispanic, if that makes any sense.
     
    It means that he is a guy with a Southern European phenotype.

    I do not believe he is of 100% European origin.
     
    Drop him off in Sicily, Sardinia, Corsica, Greece, Spain, Southern France, the Southern Balkans, etc, and he would fit right in.Hell, drop him off in Wales and he would fit in.He could be Richard Nixon's cousin:

    http://www.viraldoza.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/26-Richard-Nixon.jpg

    Replies: @Anonymous, @jon

  20. @Cracker
    OT:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/05/16/asian-american-groups-accuse-harvard-of-racial-bias-in-admissions/27438565/

    Let it burn!

    Replies: @Wyrd

    Down with horistic admissions process that is furry compriant with federar raw!

  21. @prosa123
    After looking at many online images I would say that while Isaac does not look like a typical Hispanic he also is not obviously NON-Hispanic, if that makes any sense. I do not believe he is of 100% European origin.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @syonredux

    “After looking at many online images I would say that while Isaac does not look like a typical Hispanic he also is not obviously NON-Hispanic, if that makes any sense. I do not believe he is of 100% European origin.”

    He does not look like a Northern European WASP but if he said he was a Turk or a Greek for example, I would believe him. In others word he looks Caucasoid using the 3 race system.

  22. @Jefferson
    "Oh, I’m sure that he has a bit of Amerind blood in there, somewhere.Then again, so does Chuck Norris.

    As I said before, this is a guy who played a fictional version of Bob Dylan (Inside Ilewyn Davis) and King John (Robin Hood).Guys who aren’t White don’t get cast in those kinds of parts.

    Real Hispanic Amerinds/Mestizos (Mestizo as in being more than 25% Amerind) are boring.That’s why Hollywood prefers White/mostly White Hispanic actors: Ricardo Montalban, Jose Ferrer Cesar Romero, Anthony Quinn, etc"

    Anthony Quinn played an Italian in the film "Jungle Fever". He played the father of John and Nicholas Turturro.

    Replies: @syonredux

    Anthony Quinn played an Italian in the film “Jungle Fever”. He played the father of John and Nicholas Turturro.

    Quinn played Italians, Greeks, you name it.Here’s his bio:

    Quinn was born Antonio Rodolfo Quinn Oaxaca on April 21, 1915 in Chihuahua, Mexico during the Mexican Revolution to Manuela (née Oaxaca) and Francisco Quinn, known informally as “Frank” and “Nellie”.[1][2] Francisco Quinn was born in Mexico, to an Irish immigrant father from County Cork and a Mexican mother.[3]

    When he was six years old, Quinn attended a Catholic church (even thinking he wanted to become a priest). At age eleven, however, he joined the Pentecostals in the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel (the Pentecostal followers of Aimee Semple McPherson).[5] For a time he played in the church’s band and was an apprentice preacher with the renowned evangelist. “I have known most of the great actresses of my time, and not one of them could touch her”, Quinn once said of the spellbinding McPherson, whom he credited with inspiring Zorba’s gesture of the dramatically outstretched hand. [6]

    Quinn grew up first in El Paso, Texas, and later the Boyle Heights and the Echo Park areas of Los Angeles, California. He attended Hammel Street Elementary School, Belvedere Junior High School, Polytechnic High School and finally Belmont High School in Los Angeles, with future baseball player and General Hospital star John Beradino, but left before graduating. Tucson High School in Arizona, many years later, awarded him an honorary high school diploma.[citation needed]

    As a young man, Quinn boxed professionally to earn money, then studied art and architecture under Frank Lloyd Wright, at Wright’s Arizona residence and his Wisconsin studio, Taliesin. The two men became friends. When Quinn mentioned that he was drawn to acting, Wright encouraged him. Quinn said he had been offered $800 per week by a film studio and didn’t know what to do. Wright replied, “Take it, you’ll never make that much with me.”[this quote needs a citation] In a 1999 interview Private Screenings with Robert Osborne. Quinn said the contract was for only $300 per week.[7]

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @syonredux

    Anthony Quinn even played a Ukrainian pope from Lvov in In the Shoes of the Fisherman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shoes_of_the_Fisherman

    , @Kylie
    @syonredux

    Anthony Quinn was a drop-dead gorgeous young man.

    http://www.movieactors.com/freezeframes-12/QUINN-oxbow1.jpeg

    , @Kylie
    @syonredux

    Anthony Quinn was a drop-dead gorgeous young man.

    http://www.movieactors.com/freezeframes-12/QUINN-oxbow1.jpeg

    As good as The Ox-bow Incident was (not the left-wing preachiness but the uniformly fine acting), I got quite distracted once he came onscreen.

    Replies: @David

    , @Mr. Anon
    @syonredux

    Quinn didn't just play italians, greeks, and mexicans; he played ukrainians, siberians, arabs, and eskimoes. The only actor to come close in the range of people he played was Omar Sharif, who played arabs, russians, germans, mongols, and americans. Although, it should be noted that even John Wayne once played a mongol.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous, @Twinkie

  23. @syonredux
    Fun thing about Oscar Isaac*? The way that the lumpengentsia try to convince themselves that he's not a White man.





    *http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/oscar-isaac-658886

    Replies: @anonymous, @Lex Corvus, @emilio zapata, @Anonymous

    He’s olive skinned and looks ethnic. That’s what they mean.

  24. Hollywood cast a Black man to play the father of the Irish, French, German, and Italian actress Kate Mara in the new “Fantastic Four” film.

    I wonder if this is a way of Hollywood trying to brainwash White people into believing that racial miscegenation between Blacks and Whites is a good thing like “hey there is nothing wrong with Black-White race mixing because there is a high chance the offspring from these racial unions will come out looking White”.

  25. @prosa123
    After looking at many online images I would say that while Isaac does not look like a typical Hispanic he also is not obviously NON-Hispanic, if that makes any sense. I do not believe he is of 100% European origin.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @syonredux

    After looking at many online images I would say that while Isaac does not look like a typical Hispanic he also is not obviously NON-Hispanic, if that makes any sense.

    It means that he is a guy with a Southern European phenotype.

    I do not believe he is of 100% European origin.

    Drop him off in Sicily, Sardinia, Corsica, Greece, Spain, Southern France, the Southern Balkans, etc, and he would fit right in.Hell, drop him off in Wales and he would fit in.He could be Richard Nixon’s cousin:

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @syonredux

    The "dark" Welsh and Irish types tend to differ from Mediterranean types. The former usually don't have olive skin and are often very pale and have blue eyes. Also their facial features tend to be broader and less fleshy.

    Carleton Coon's work goes into this sort of thing in quite some detail.

    Replies: @anon, @Twinkie

    , @jon
    @syonredux


    He could be Richard Nixon’s cousin:

    http://www.viraldoza.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/26-Richard-Nixon.jpg
     
    Wow, either that is an overly flattering picture of Nixon, or he really didn't age well.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  26. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @syonredux
    @prosa123


    After looking at many online images I would say that while Isaac does not look like a typical Hispanic he also is not obviously NON-Hispanic, if that makes any sense.
     
    It means that he is a guy with a Southern European phenotype.

    I do not believe he is of 100% European origin.
     
    Drop him off in Sicily, Sardinia, Corsica, Greece, Spain, Southern France, the Southern Balkans, etc, and he would fit right in.Hell, drop him off in Wales and he would fit in.He could be Richard Nixon's cousin:

    http://www.viraldoza.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/26-Richard-Nixon.jpg

    Replies: @Anonymous, @jon

    The “dark” Welsh and Irish types tend to differ from Mediterranean types. The former usually don’t have olive skin and are often very pale and have blue eyes. Also their facial features tend to be broader and less fleshy.

    Carleton Coon’s work goes into this sort of thing in quite some detail.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anonymous


    The “dark” Welsh and Irish types tend to differ from Mediterranean types.
     
    Yeah it's an interesting thing. I mentioned the actor Tom Hughes in a previous thread because I was thinking about this - I think he's a good example of that cross between the northern euro and the southern euro look which you get in Ireland / Wales / Borders for some reason.

    In my experience people in those areas will make jokes about people who look like Hughes having Italian sailors for fathers because it's the closest thing they can think of but I think it actually goes back a long way into the past.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Twinkie
    @Anonymous


    The “dark” Welsh and Irish types tend to differ from Mediterranean types.
     
    Don't forget that the Paleo hunter-gatherers of Northern Europe were blue-eyed, dark-skinned and -haired people, genetically distant from the Middle Eastern farmers who migrated to the Mediterranean.
  27. @syonredux
    @Jefferson


    Anthony Quinn played an Italian in the film “Jungle Fever”. He played the father of John and Nicholas Turturro.
     
    Quinn played Italians, Greeks, you name it.Here's his bio:

    Quinn was born Antonio Rodolfo Quinn Oaxaca on April 21, 1915 in Chihuahua, Mexico during the Mexican Revolution to Manuela (née Oaxaca) and Francisco Quinn, known informally as "Frank" and "Nellie".[1][2] Francisco Quinn was born in Mexico, to an Irish immigrant father from County Cork and a Mexican mother.[3]

    When he was six years old, Quinn attended a Catholic church (even thinking he wanted to become a priest). At age eleven, however, he joined the Pentecostals in the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel (the Pentecostal followers of Aimee Semple McPherson).[5] For a time he played in the church's band and was an apprentice preacher with the renowned evangelist. "I have known most of the great actresses of my time, and not one of them could touch her", Quinn once said of the spellbinding McPherson, whom he credited with inspiring Zorba's gesture of the dramatically outstretched hand. [6]

    Quinn grew up first in El Paso, Texas, and later the Boyle Heights and the Echo Park areas of Los Angeles, California. He attended Hammel Street Elementary School, Belvedere Junior High School, Polytechnic High School and finally Belmont High School in Los Angeles, with future baseball player and General Hospital star John Beradino, but left before graduating. Tucson High School in Arizona, many years later, awarded him an honorary high school diploma.[citation needed]

    As a young man, Quinn boxed professionally to earn money, then studied art and architecture under Frank Lloyd Wright, at Wright's Arizona residence and his Wisconsin studio, Taliesin. The two men became friends. When Quinn mentioned that he was drawn to acting, Wright encouraged him. Quinn said he had been offered $800 per week by a film studio and didn't know what to do. Wright replied, "Take it, you'll never make that much with me."[this quote needs a citation] In a 1999 interview Private Screenings with Robert Osborne. Quinn said the contract was for only $300 per week.[7]
     

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Kylie, @Kylie, @Mr. Anon

    Anthony Quinn even played a Ukrainian pope from Lvov in In the Shoes of the Fisherman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shoes_of_the_Fisherman

  28. Domnall Gleeson played Louis Zamperini’s pilot in “Unbroken”, and Zamperini was played by an english/irish actor, Jack O’Connell. About half the airmen in the movie were portrayed by english, irish, or australian actors. “Band of Brothers” had similar demographics. Even in “L.A. Confidential” both the leads were portrayed by Australians.

    For whatever reason, movie directors and producers seem to think that convincing portrayals of WWII-era Americans are best pulled off by foreign actors.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    I've been told: Young American men upspeak like Valley Girls in 1982. In contrast, when British Commonwealth actors are asked to do American accents, they imitatate downspeaking 1970s American movie stars like Nicholson, De Niro, and Eastwood.

    Replies: @anon, @jon, @Mr. Anon, @dsgntd_plyr

    , @Brutusale
    @Mr. Anon

    If you want a real man to act today, you have to go foreign.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Romanian

  29. Steve you should make a blog about a Kentucky sheriff who felt relieved that one of his deputies shot a White man and not a Black man. You should title it “White Lives Do Not Matter”.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Jefferson


    You should title it “White Lives Do Not Matter”.
     
    Ever heard of John Geer? Of course not. He was white. The mainstream media, except for some local coverage, was completely missing in that police shooting.
  30. @Mr. Anon
    Domnall Gleeson played Louis Zamperini's pilot in "Unbroken", and Zamperini was played by an english/irish actor, Jack O'Connell. About half the airmen in the movie were portrayed by english, irish, or australian actors. "Band of Brothers" had similar demographics. Even in "L.A. Confidential" both the leads were portrayed by Australians.

    For whatever reason, movie directors and producers seem to think that convincing portrayals of WWII-era Americans are best pulled off by foreign actors.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Brutusale

    I’ve been told: Young American men upspeak like Valley Girls in 1982. In contrast, when British Commonwealth actors are asked to do American accents, they imitatate downspeaking 1970s American movie stars like Nicholson, De Niro, and Eastwood.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Steve Sailer

    That makes sense. Growing up US actors were generally more macho and Commonwealth more stiff-upper-lip and restrained so they might act more macho playing Americans.

    , @jon
    @Steve Sailer


    I’ve been told: Young American men upspeak like Valley Girls in 1982.
     
    I never really understood what this meant until someone pointed it out with this guy:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG-0z6bs_YU

    (Erik Loomis, historian)
    , @Mr. Anon
    @Steve Sailer

    Yes, a lot of young american men talk like - for want of a better word - fags. I shouldn't have said "for whatever reason" - clearly, UK and australian actors are actually better at playing Americans of yore than most american actors are, and the casting directors are making a sound choice. Another possible reason is the propensity of american actors to be too muscular. They all seem to be gym-rats nowadays. Most american men didn't used to look like that, up until the 90s sometime.

    , @dsgntd_plyr
    @Steve Sailer

    There was a discussion over at Roosh's about how gay and straight white guys in DC are increasingly indistinguishable from each other. I live in the DC area, it's true, Millennial white guys are soft. Maybe it's national.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  31. I want the glass house.

  32. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @syonredux

    The "dark" Welsh and Irish types tend to differ from Mediterranean types. The former usually don't have olive skin and are often very pale and have blue eyes. Also their facial features tend to be broader and less fleshy.

    Carleton Coon's work goes into this sort of thing in quite some detail.

    Replies: @anon, @Twinkie

    The “dark” Welsh and Irish types tend to differ from Mediterranean types.

    Yeah it’s an interesting thing. I mentioned the actor Tom Hughes in a previous thread because I was thinking about this – I think he’s a good example of that cross between the northern euro and the southern euro look which you get in Ireland / Wales / Borders for some reason.

    In my experience people in those areas will make jokes about people who look like Hughes having Italian sailors for fathers because it’s the closest thing they can think of but I think it actually goes back a long way into the past.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @anon

    One theory is that the first main wave to settle England and Ireland after the last Ice Age had covered them in ice had taken refuge in the Iberian Peninsula.

    Replies: @anon, @Unzerker

  33. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    I've been told: Young American men upspeak like Valley Girls in 1982. In contrast, when British Commonwealth actors are asked to do American accents, they imitatate downspeaking 1970s American movie stars like Nicholson, De Niro, and Eastwood.

    Replies: @anon, @jon, @Mr. Anon, @dsgntd_plyr

    That makes sense. Growing up US actors were generally more macho and Commonwealth more stiff-upper-lip and restrained so they might act more macho playing Americans.

  34. @anon
    @Anonymous


    The “dark” Welsh and Irish types tend to differ from Mediterranean types.
     
    Yeah it's an interesting thing. I mentioned the actor Tom Hughes in a previous thread because I was thinking about this - I think he's a good example of that cross between the northern euro and the southern euro look which you get in Ireland / Wales / Borders for some reason.

    In my experience people in those areas will make jokes about people who look like Hughes having Italian sailors for fathers because it's the closest thing they can think of but I think it actually goes back a long way into the past.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    One theory is that the first main wave to settle England and Ireland after the last Ice Age had covered them in ice had taken refuge in the Iberian Peninsula.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Steve Sailer

    that's what seems most likely to me as well.

    , @Unzerker
    @Steve Sailer

    Interesting...The ice didn't go nearly that far south though. The ice shelves reached about halfway through the Netherlands, so you would expect the people around Calais to be the first there. If there were any people still living there, that is.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast

  35. I didn’t think this movie was about artificial intelligence at all. I think it just used artificial intelligence as a platform for the main theme, which is “Don’t Be a Lonely Nerd”. How would Corey Worthington have administered the Turing test I wonder…?

    From the IT security standpoint, the zillionaire’s problems at the end (don’t want to give away too much) could have been greatly alleviated by simply having password authentication on his workstation, you know, like all the millions of cubicle dwellers in the first world are required to have. He wouldn’t even have to actually lock his workstation; just make “adjust compound security settings” something that requires an admin password. You’d think a tech zillionaire who is smart enough to program a passable Aliciavikanderbot would have a better handle on these things.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Jokah Macpherson

    Yeah, I expected the robot princess to have some insight into her creator's mind that would help in guessing his password, but nah ...

  36. @Jokah Macpherson
    I didn't think this movie was about artificial intelligence at all. I think it just used artificial intelligence as a platform for the main theme, which is "Don't Be a Lonely Nerd". How would Corey Worthington have administered the Turing test I wonder...?

    From the IT security standpoint, the zillionaire's problems at the end (don't want to give away too much) could have been greatly alleviated by simply having password authentication on his workstation, you know, like all the millions of cubicle dwellers in the first world are required to have. He wouldn't even have to actually lock his workstation; just make "adjust compound security settings" something that requires an admin password. You'd think a tech zillionaire who is smart enough to program a passable Aliciavikanderbot would have a better handle on these things.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Yeah, I expected the robot princess to have some insight into her creator’s mind that would help in guessing his password, but nah …

  37. @Steve Sailer
    @anon

    One theory is that the first main wave to settle England and Ireland after the last Ice Age had covered them in ice had taken refuge in the Iberian Peninsula.

    Replies: @anon, @Unzerker

    that’s what seems most likely to me as well.

  38. @syonredux
    @Jefferson


    Anthony Quinn played an Italian in the film “Jungle Fever”. He played the father of John and Nicholas Turturro.
     
    Quinn played Italians, Greeks, you name it.Here's his bio:

    Quinn was born Antonio Rodolfo Quinn Oaxaca on April 21, 1915 in Chihuahua, Mexico during the Mexican Revolution to Manuela (née Oaxaca) and Francisco Quinn, known informally as "Frank" and "Nellie".[1][2] Francisco Quinn was born in Mexico, to an Irish immigrant father from County Cork and a Mexican mother.[3]

    When he was six years old, Quinn attended a Catholic church (even thinking he wanted to become a priest). At age eleven, however, he joined the Pentecostals in the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel (the Pentecostal followers of Aimee Semple McPherson).[5] For a time he played in the church's band and was an apprentice preacher with the renowned evangelist. "I have known most of the great actresses of my time, and not one of them could touch her", Quinn once said of the spellbinding McPherson, whom he credited with inspiring Zorba's gesture of the dramatically outstretched hand. [6]

    Quinn grew up first in El Paso, Texas, and later the Boyle Heights and the Echo Park areas of Los Angeles, California. He attended Hammel Street Elementary School, Belvedere Junior High School, Polytechnic High School and finally Belmont High School in Los Angeles, with future baseball player and General Hospital star John Beradino, but left before graduating. Tucson High School in Arizona, many years later, awarded him an honorary high school diploma.[citation needed]

    As a young man, Quinn boxed professionally to earn money, then studied art and architecture under Frank Lloyd Wright, at Wright's Arizona residence and his Wisconsin studio, Taliesin. The two men became friends. When Quinn mentioned that he was drawn to acting, Wright encouraged him. Quinn said he had been offered $800 per week by a film studio and didn't know what to do. Wright replied, "Take it, you'll never make that much with me."[this quote needs a citation] In a 1999 interview Private Screenings with Robert Osborne. Quinn said the contract was for only $300 per week.[7]
     

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Kylie, @Kylie, @Mr. Anon

    Anthony Quinn was a drop-dead gorgeous young man.

    As good as The Ox-bow Incident was (not the left-wing preachiness but the uniformly fine acting), I got quite distracted once he came onscreen.

    • Replies: @David
    @Kylie

    Is advocating for due process in capital cases left-wing preachiness nowadays?

  39. @syonredux
    @Jefferson


    Anthony Quinn played an Italian in the film “Jungle Fever”. He played the father of John and Nicholas Turturro.
     
    Quinn played Italians, Greeks, you name it.Here's his bio:

    Quinn was born Antonio Rodolfo Quinn Oaxaca on April 21, 1915 in Chihuahua, Mexico during the Mexican Revolution to Manuela (née Oaxaca) and Francisco Quinn, known informally as "Frank" and "Nellie".[1][2] Francisco Quinn was born in Mexico, to an Irish immigrant father from County Cork and a Mexican mother.[3]

    When he was six years old, Quinn attended a Catholic church (even thinking he wanted to become a priest). At age eleven, however, he joined the Pentecostals in the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel (the Pentecostal followers of Aimee Semple McPherson).[5] For a time he played in the church's band and was an apprentice preacher with the renowned evangelist. "I have known most of the great actresses of my time, and not one of them could touch her", Quinn once said of the spellbinding McPherson, whom he credited with inspiring Zorba's gesture of the dramatically outstretched hand. [6]

    Quinn grew up first in El Paso, Texas, and later the Boyle Heights and the Echo Park areas of Los Angeles, California. He attended Hammel Street Elementary School, Belvedere Junior High School, Polytechnic High School and finally Belmont High School in Los Angeles, with future baseball player and General Hospital star John Beradino, but left before graduating. Tucson High School in Arizona, many years later, awarded him an honorary high school diploma.[citation needed]

    As a young man, Quinn boxed professionally to earn money, then studied art and architecture under Frank Lloyd Wright, at Wright's Arizona residence and his Wisconsin studio, Taliesin. The two men became friends. When Quinn mentioned that he was drawn to acting, Wright encouraged him. Quinn said he had been offered $800 per week by a film studio and didn't know what to do. Wright replied, "Take it, you'll never make that much with me."[this quote needs a citation] In a 1999 interview Private Screenings with Robert Osborne. Quinn said the contract was for only $300 per week.[7]
     

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Kylie, @Kylie, @Mr. Anon

    Anthony Quinn was a drop-dead gorgeous young man.

  40. @IHTG
    Oh, it's the poor hacker guy from Dredd.

    Replies: @gruff

    It’s the writer of Dredd too, Alex Garland. God that movie kicks ass.

  41. I liked it. The plot was a bit predictable but that added to the sense of impending doom like in a greek tragedy. The acting was top notch and it had gorgeous cinematography. Among the eye candy were norwegian mountains and an attractive girl of mix japanese-english descent.
    Isaac was amazing as an obnoxious but fascinating tech billionaire that is both chummy and condescending in a very californian way. His character is the only one that I really cared about.

    Speaking of mountains and amazing cinematography, did you see Force Majeure?
    Warning: the following trailer is basically a summary of the movie, but it shouldn’t matter because it’s the imagery and the sounds rather than the minimal plot that is good about this movie. The initial premise was interesting, but the continuation was not as gripping.

  42. @emilio zapata
    @syonredux

    He could play a Mexican and I'll find it believable.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Dave Pinsen

    One of the whitest guys in boxing today is a Mexican, Saul “Canelo” Alvarez. Here’s him versus James Kirkland last week:

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @Dave Pinsen

    Canelo ("Cinnamon") Alvarez is a top boxer in part because he is so light. When he was growing up in Mexico other kids in the neighborhood used to taunt him that his father wasn't his real father, that his mother must have fooled around with a white man. He was obliged to get into fist fights to defend his mother's honor, and honed his fighting skills in the process.

  43. @syonredux
    @prosa123


    After looking at many online images I would say that while Isaac does not look like a typical Hispanic he also is not obviously NON-Hispanic, if that makes any sense.
     
    It means that he is a guy with a Southern European phenotype.

    I do not believe he is of 100% European origin.
     
    Drop him off in Sicily, Sardinia, Corsica, Greece, Spain, Southern France, the Southern Balkans, etc, and he would fit right in.Hell, drop him off in Wales and he would fit in.He could be Richard Nixon's cousin:

    http://www.viraldoza.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/26-Richard-Nixon.jpg

    Replies: @Anonymous, @jon

    He could be Richard Nixon’s cousin:

    http://www.viraldoza.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/26-Richard-Nixon.jpg

    Wow, either that is an overly flattering picture of Nixon, or he really didn’t age well.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @jon

    Conversely, once Nixon reached middle age, he remained in remarkably good health (and thereafter looked young for his age) until well into his twilight years.

    I recall that someone once wrote that Richard Nixon sold his soul to the Devil to remain forever forty-seven years old.

    Replies: @prosa123

  44. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    I've been told: Young American men upspeak like Valley Girls in 1982. In contrast, when British Commonwealth actors are asked to do American accents, they imitatate downspeaking 1970s American movie stars like Nicholson, De Niro, and Eastwood.

    Replies: @anon, @jon, @Mr. Anon, @dsgntd_plyr

    I’ve been told: Young American men upspeak like Valley Girls in 1982.

    I never really understood what this meant until someone pointed it out with this guy:

    (Erik Loomis, historian)

  45. I remember Steve said he thought Oscar Isaac in “A Most Violent Year” looked like Michael Corleone.

  46. The actress who plays Ava in Ex Machina is Swedish, her name is Alicia Vikander. She does not look like the typical Nordic Swede. She reminds me of Fox New’s Joanne Nosuchinsky who is half Italian and half Ukrainian.

    • Replies: @Tacitus2016
    @Jefferson

    http://articlebio.com/amanda-alicia-vikander

    Father a psychiatrist. Says here religion is Jewish. Looks quite like Natalie Portman in some photos.

    Replies: @Anonym, @Fredrik, @fish, @Anonymous

  47. @jon
    @syonredux


    He could be Richard Nixon’s cousin:

    http://www.viraldoza.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/26-Richard-Nixon.jpg
     
    Wow, either that is an overly flattering picture of Nixon, or he really didn't age well.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Conversely, once Nixon reached middle age, he remained in remarkably good health (and thereafter looked young for his age) until well into his twilight years.

    I recall that someone once wrote that Richard Nixon sold his soul to the Devil to remain forever forty-seven years old.

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @Anonymous

    Richard Nixon looked relatively (though not unusually) young for his age as he got older, but it would be a stretch to say that he enjoyed remarkably good health. He suffered a near-fatal case of phlebitis shortly after his resignation and was hospitalized for weeks. He did not seem particularly active thereafter. While 81 is not an early age at which to die, it's unimpressive by the standards of other recent presidents: Ford and Reagan each lived over a decade longer, as have the still-living Bush I and Carter.

  48. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    I've been told: Young American men upspeak like Valley Girls in 1982. In contrast, when British Commonwealth actors are asked to do American accents, they imitatate downspeaking 1970s American movie stars like Nicholson, De Niro, and Eastwood.

    Replies: @anon, @jon, @Mr. Anon, @dsgntd_plyr

    Yes, a lot of young american men talk like – for want of a better word – fags. I shouldn’t have said “for whatever reason” – clearly, UK and australian actors are actually better at playing Americans of yore than most american actors are, and the casting directors are making a sound choice. Another possible reason is the propensity of american actors to be too muscular. They all seem to be gym-rats nowadays. Most american men didn’t used to look like that, up until the 90s sometime.

  49. @syonredux
    @Jefferson


    Anthony Quinn played an Italian in the film “Jungle Fever”. He played the father of John and Nicholas Turturro.
     
    Quinn played Italians, Greeks, you name it.Here's his bio:

    Quinn was born Antonio Rodolfo Quinn Oaxaca on April 21, 1915 in Chihuahua, Mexico during the Mexican Revolution to Manuela (née Oaxaca) and Francisco Quinn, known informally as "Frank" and "Nellie".[1][2] Francisco Quinn was born in Mexico, to an Irish immigrant father from County Cork and a Mexican mother.[3]

    When he was six years old, Quinn attended a Catholic church (even thinking he wanted to become a priest). At age eleven, however, he joined the Pentecostals in the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel (the Pentecostal followers of Aimee Semple McPherson).[5] For a time he played in the church's band and was an apprentice preacher with the renowned evangelist. "I have known most of the great actresses of my time, and not one of them could touch her", Quinn once said of the spellbinding McPherson, whom he credited with inspiring Zorba's gesture of the dramatically outstretched hand. [6]

    Quinn grew up first in El Paso, Texas, and later the Boyle Heights and the Echo Park areas of Los Angeles, California. He attended Hammel Street Elementary School, Belvedere Junior High School, Polytechnic High School and finally Belmont High School in Los Angeles, with future baseball player and General Hospital star John Beradino, but left before graduating. Tucson High School in Arizona, many years later, awarded him an honorary high school diploma.[citation needed]

    As a young man, Quinn boxed professionally to earn money, then studied art and architecture under Frank Lloyd Wright, at Wright's Arizona residence and his Wisconsin studio, Taliesin. The two men became friends. When Quinn mentioned that he was drawn to acting, Wright encouraged him. Quinn said he had been offered $800 per week by a film studio and didn't know what to do. Wright replied, "Take it, you'll never make that much with me."[this quote needs a citation] In a 1999 interview Private Screenings with Robert Osborne. Quinn said the contract was for only $300 per week.[7]
     

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Kylie, @Kylie, @Mr. Anon

    Quinn didn’t just play italians, greeks, and mexicans; he played ukrainians, siberians, arabs, and eskimoes. The only actor to come close in the range of people he played was Omar Sharif, who played arabs, russians, germans, mongols, and americans. Although, it should be noted that even John Wayne once played a mongol.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    Cliff Curtis is one of the few character actors these days who plays other races than his own (he's at least significantly Maori).

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @Anonymous
    @Mr. Anon

    Yul Brynner played a wide range as well. He played Russians, an Arab, Egyptian, Thai, Japanese, and even a Southerner in The Sound and the Fury.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @Twinkie
    @Mr. Anon


    Although, it should be noted that even John Wayne once played a mongol.
     
    John Wayne as Genghis Khan was just priceless. Hey, he wore an eye makeup, so it's all good. It didn't quite rise to the level of Mickey Rooney as a Japanese though.

    https://gcaggiano.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/john-wayne-genghis-khan.jpg

    But then again, Charlton Heston played Judah Ben-Hur. I wasn't there, but I am pretty sure the Jews of that period didn't look very Anglo-Scottish.

    Hollywood is magic.

    Replies: @Oswald Spengler

  50. @Mr. Anon
    @syonredux

    Quinn didn't just play italians, greeks, and mexicans; he played ukrainians, siberians, arabs, and eskimoes. The only actor to come close in the range of people he played was Omar Sharif, who played arabs, russians, germans, mongols, and americans. Although, it should be noted that even John Wayne once played a mongol.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous, @Twinkie

    Cliff Curtis is one of the few character actors these days who plays other races than his own (he’s at least significantly Maori).

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Steve Sailer

    "Cliff Curtis is one of the few character actors these days who plays other races than his own (he’s at least significantly Maori)."

    Cliff Curtis tend to play Arabs and Hispanics. He has that pan-Brown look where he is believable as an Egyptian or an Ecuadorian. As a Moroccan or a Mexican.

  51. @Jefferson
    The actress who plays Ava in Ex Machina is Swedish, her name is Alicia Vikander. She does not look like the typical Nordic Swede. She reminds me of Fox New's Joanne Nosuchinsky who is half Italian and half Ukrainian.
    http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Observer/Pix/pictures/2012/8/29/1346259310681/Alicia-Vikander-011.jpg

    Replies: @Tacitus2016

    http://articlebio.com/amanda-alicia-vikander

    Father a psychiatrist. Says here religion is Jewish. Looks quite like Natalie Portman in some photos.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @Tacitus2016

    Reminds me a lot of Natalie Portman too.

    , @Fredrik
    @Tacitus2016

    I don't believe she's Jewish. Googling doesn't find any traces of that and her name betrays no Jewishness.

    Replies: @Tacitus2016

    , @fish
    @Tacitus2016

    Looks hotter as the android.

    , @Anonymous
    @Tacitus2016

    No other source that I could find confirms her background as Jewish. Her mother's maiden name was Fahl, but neither that name nor Vikander are typical for Ashknazi Jews. It's possible that she is partially of Jewish ancestry, but the evidence is very thin.

  52. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    Cliff Curtis is one of the few character actors these days who plays other races than his own (he's at least significantly Maori).

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Cliff Curtis is one of the few character actors these days who plays other races than his own (he’s at least significantly Maori).”

    Cliff Curtis tend to play Arabs and Hispanics. He has that pan-Brown look where he is believable as an Egyptian or an Ecuadorian. As a Moroccan or a Mexican.

  53. @Tacitus2016
    @Jefferson

    http://articlebio.com/amanda-alicia-vikander

    Father a psychiatrist. Says here religion is Jewish. Looks quite like Natalie Portman in some photos.

    Replies: @Anonym, @Fredrik, @fish, @Anonymous

    Reminds me a lot of Natalie Portman too.

  54. @Kylie
    @syonredux

    Anthony Quinn was a drop-dead gorgeous young man.

    http://www.movieactors.com/freezeframes-12/QUINN-oxbow1.jpeg

    As good as The Ox-bow Incident was (not the left-wing preachiness but the uniformly fine acting), I got quite distracted once he came onscreen.

    Replies: @David

    Is advocating for due process in capital cases left-wing preachiness nowadays?

  55. @Tacitus2016
    @Jefferson

    http://articlebio.com/amanda-alicia-vikander

    Father a psychiatrist. Says here religion is Jewish. Looks quite like Natalie Portman in some photos.

    Replies: @Anonym, @Fredrik, @fish, @Anonymous

    I don’t believe she’s Jewish. Googling doesn’t find any traces of that and her name betrays no Jewishness.

    • Replies: @Tacitus2016
    @Fredrik

    Yes sorry. Probably an unreliable bio. Also says she has grey eyes and she appears to have dark eyes.

  56. @Mr. Anon
    Domnall Gleeson played Louis Zamperini's pilot in "Unbroken", and Zamperini was played by an english/irish actor, Jack O'Connell. About half the airmen in the movie were portrayed by english, irish, or australian actors. "Band of Brothers" had similar demographics. Even in "L.A. Confidential" both the leads were portrayed by Australians.

    For whatever reason, movie directors and producers seem to think that convincing portrayals of WWII-era Americans are best pulled off by foreign actors.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Brutusale

    If you want a real man to act today, you have to go foreign.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Brutusale


    If you want a real man to act today, you have to go foreign.
     
    Depends on how you define "real men":

    From an interview in UK Marie Claire:

    This much candour makes you wonder whether Hardy ever regrets being, well, quite frank. 'I don't regret anything I've ever said It's just a shame things are misconstrued and I don't get the opportunity to explain.' Not even the time he said he'd enjoyed relationships with men in his twenties?

    'I have never put my p-nis in a man,' is Hardy's characteristically direct response. 'Ive never had a c--k in my arse, and I have no f--king desire for it. If that's what you like, cool. But it doesn't do it for me.' He's irritated his words were taken out of context but concedes, 'one thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about'.

    Discussion of Hardy's sexual past sprang to life last summer when the actor, then starring in Inception, was quoted by the Daily Mail:

    "The 32-year-old Inception star, who is engaged to British actress Charlotte Riley, 28, and also has a two-year-old son with a former girlfriend. But asked if he'd ever had any sexual relations with other men, the broody actor said: 'As a boy? Of course I have. I'm an actor for ****'s sake. 'I've played with everything and everyone. I love the form and the physicality, but now that I'm in my thirties, it doesn't do it for me. I'm done experimenting but there's plenty of stuff in a relationship with another man, especially gay men, that I need in my life. A lot of gay men get my thing for shoes. I have definite feminine qualities and a lot of gay men are incredibly masculine.'"

     

    http://www.towleroad.com/2011/09/from-an-interview-in-marie-claire-this-much-candour-makes-you-wonder-whether-hardy-ever-regrets-being-well-quite-frank-i.html

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Romanian
    @Brutusale

    Chechens, Africans, Middle Easterners... take your pick.

  57. Almost all modern movies reach a point where, in order to advance the plot, a character must do the stupidest thing possible. I stopped watching ‘Purge’ when the kid let someone into the house. But I stuck with ‘Prometheus’ when they took their helmets off, only to be rewarded with a character who, upon encountering a creature that looked like a cross between a snake and a remora, stuck his face down next to it. We’ve become so conditioned to extremely poor writing that for the most part we just let it pass.

    And from someone whom has bastardized ‘Ex Machina,’ should we really be surprised at a little deus ex machina?

  58. prosa123 [AKA "Peter"] says: • Website
    @Dave Pinsen
    @emilio zapata

    One of the whitest guys in boxing today is a Mexican, Saul "Canelo" Alvarez. Here's him versus James Kirkland last week: https://youtu.be/LehQX1bbGQk

    Replies: @prosa123

    Canelo (“Cinnamon”) Alvarez is a top boxer in part because he is so light. When he was growing up in Mexico other kids in the neighborhood used to taunt him that his father wasn’t his real father, that his mother must have fooled around with a white man. He was obliged to get into fist fights to defend his mother’s honor, and honed his fighting skills in the process.

  59. Is this testing whether I’m a replicant or a lesbian, Mr. Deckard?

  60. prosa123 [AKA "Peter"] says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    @jon

    Conversely, once Nixon reached middle age, he remained in remarkably good health (and thereafter looked young for his age) until well into his twilight years.

    I recall that someone once wrote that Richard Nixon sold his soul to the Devil to remain forever forty-seven years old.

    Replies: @prosa123

    Richard Nixon looked relatively (though not unusually) young for his age as he got older, but it would be a stretch to say that he enjoyed remarkably good health. He suffered a near-fatal case of phlebitis shortly after his resignation and was hospitalized for weeks. He did not seem particularly active thereafter. While 81 is not an early age at which to die, it’s unimpressive by the standards of other recent presidents: Ford and Reagan each lived over a decade longer, as have the still-living Bush I and Carter.

  61. @Brutusale
    @Mr. Anon

    If you want a real man to act today, you have to go foreign.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Romanian

    If you want a real man to act today, you have to go foreign.

    Depends on how you define “real men”:

    From an interview in UK Marie Claire:

    This much candour makes you wonder whether Hardy ever regrets being, well, quite frank. ‘I don’t regret anything I’ve ever said It’s just a shame things are misconstrued and I don’t get the opportunity to explain.’ Not even the time he said he’d enjoyed relationships with men in his twenties?

    ‘I have never put my p-nis in a man,’ is Hardy’s characteristically direct response. ‘Ive never had a c–k in my arse, and I have no f–king desire for it. If that’s what you like, cool. But it doesn’t do it for me.’ He’s irritated his words were taken out of context but concedes, ‘one thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about’.

    Discussion of Hardy’s sexual past sprang to life last summer when the actor, then starring in Inception, was quoted by the Daily Mail:

    “The 32-year-old Inception star, who is engaged to British actress Charlotte Riley, 28, and also has a two-year-old son with a former girlfriend. But asked if he’d ever had any sexual relations with other men, the broody actor said: ‘As a boy? Of course I have. I’m an actor for ****’s sake. ‘I’ve played with everything and everyone. I love the form and the physicality, but now that I’m in my thirties, it doesn’t do it for me. I’m done experimenting but there’s plenty of stuff in a relationship with another man, especially gay men, that I need in my life. A lot of gay men get my thing for shoes. I have definite feminine qualities and a lot of gay men are incredibly masculine.’”

    http://www.towleroad.com/2011/09/from-an-interview-in-marie-claire-this-much-candour-makes-you-wonder-whether-hardy-ever-regrets-being-well-quite-frank-i.html

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @syonredux


    Depends on how you define “real men”
     
    Who got in trouble recently by saying "scratch an actors and you will find an actress"?
  62. @Tacitus2016
    @Jefferson

    http://articlebio.com/amanda-alicia-vikander

    Father a psychiatrist. Says here religion is Jewish. Looks quite like Natalie Portman in some photos.

    Replies: @Anonym, @Fredrik, @fish, @Anonymous

    Looks hotter as the android.

  63. @Mr. Anon
    @syonredux

    Quinn didn't just play italians, greeks, and mexicans; he played ukrainians, siberians, arabs, and eskimoes. The only actor to come close in the range of people he played was Omar Sharif, who played arabs, russians, germans, mongols, and americans. Although, it should be noted that even John Wayne once played a mongol.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous, @Twinkie

    Yul Brynner played a wide range as well. He played Russians, an Arab, Egyptian, Thai, Japanese, and even a Southerner in The Sound and the Fury.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Anonymous

    Yes, I had quite forgotten Brynner. He even played a german officer once, in "Triple Cross".

  64. Actresses are getting posher these days, and Vikander can give Keira Knightley and Carey Mulligan a run for their old money.

    This is in response to diversity. It allows producers to get away with whiter casts with plausible deniability.

    the sets look like they would have been cutting edge in 1995.

    It’s not a set. It’s a hotel: http://www.juvet.com/en. From the website: “Juvet does not have an online booking system, but please send an e-mail and tell us when you would like to come, and we will answer within 24 hours. ”

    Lionoftheblogosphere would say the lack on an online booking system makes Juvet an elite hotel.

  65. @Chang
    The VFX of Ex Machina were impressive.
    We take it for granted, but that would have been stunning and insanely expensive not many years. Cheap VFX means we can get low budget, art-house sci-fi flicks. Which is fun.
    I look forward to seeing what people make.

    Replies: @PapayaSF

    From your lips to God’s ears, Chang. If only Hollywood made more good low- and mid-budget science fiction films, now that they have the ability to do quality effects on low budgets. Unfortunately, they seem to be addicted to big budgets and expensive stars.

    Ex Machina is excellent, by the way.

  66. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    I've been told: Young American men upspeak like Valley Girls in 1982. In contrast, when British Commonwealth actors are asked to do American accents, they imitatate downspeaking 1970s American movie stars like Nicholson, De Niro, and Eastwood.

    Replies: @anon, @jon, @Mr. Anon, @dsgntd_plyr

    There was a discussion over at Roosh’s about how gay and straight white guys in DC are increasingly indistinguishable from each other. I live in the DC area, it’s true, Millennial white guys are soft. Maybe it’s national.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @dsgntd_plyr


    Maybe it’s national.
     
    It's not.

    Illegitimate wealth and power have produced effeminacy in men throughout history.
  67. http://stureplan.se/sok/Alicia+Vikander
    Scroll down for pics of Vikander as a teenager hanging out in Stockholm nightclubs. She’s obviously gotten a stylist.

  68. @Tacitus2016
    @Jefferson

    http://articlebio.com/amanda-alicia-vikander

    Father a psychiatrist. Says here religion is Jewish. Looks quite like Natalie Portman in some photos.

    Replies: @Anonym, @Fredrik, @fish, @Anonymous

    No other source that I could find confirms her background as Jewish. Her mother’s maiden name was Fahl, but neither that name nor Vikander are typical for Ashknazi Jews. It’s possible that she is partially of Jewish ancestry, but the evidence is very thin.

  69. @Steve Sailer
    @anon

    One theory is that the first main wave to settle England and Ireland after the last Ice Age had covered them in ice had taken refuge in the Iberian Peninsula.

    Replies: @anon, @Unzerker

    Interesting…The ice didn’t go nearly that far south though. The ice shelves reached about halfway through the Netherlands, so you would expect the people around Calais to be the first there. If there were any people still living there, that is.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @Unzerker

    Think about the far north of Canada, Alaska or Russia and think how much farther south from the glacier people would have to live for the land to support a population of any size. I've seen the Ice Age population maps Steve Sailer refers to and it shows three clusters of people on the Iberian peninsula, in what's mordern day Macedonia and Serbia and then on the northeast shore of the Black Sea.

  70. @Anonymous
    @syonredux

    The "dark" Welsh and Irish types tend to differ from Mediterranean types. The former usually don't have olive skin and are often very pale and have blue eyes. Also their facial features tend to be broader and less fleshy.

    Carleton Coon's work goes into this sort of thing in quite some detail.

    Replies: @anon, @Twinkie

    The “dark” Welsh and Irish types tend to differ from Mediterranean types.

    Don’t forget that the Paleo hunter-gatherers of Northern Europe were blue-eyed, dark-skinned and -haired people, genetically distant from the Middle Eastern farmers who migrated to the Mediterranean.

  71. Vikander’s very good at playing intelligent, aristocratic young ladies whom bright men want to rescue. Actresses are getting posher these days, and Vikander can give Keira Knightley and Carey Mulligan a run for their old money.

    I don’t care for Knightley at all, but I liked Carey Mulligan in “An Education,” “Never Let Me Go,” and “Shame.”

    Vikander… Wow, what a beauty. Captures that “intelligent, aristocratic” Germanic-Nordic look perfectly. She’s a brunette on top of that. I could not take my eyes off her in “A Royal Affair.” I thought she overshadowed Mads Mikkelsen in that film, and that’s saying something (I have been a big fan of Mikkelsen since seeing “Prag,” “Adam’s Apple,” and “After the Wedding”).

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Twinkie

    "Vikander… Wow, what a beauty. Captures that “intelligent, aristocratic” Germanic-Nordic look perfectly."

    Alicia Vikander is not Nordic at all from a phenotype standpoint. Everybody on this racial anthropology discussion board Anthroscape describe her phenotype as Mediterranean looking and they all agree she does not look like the typical average Swede.
    http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/4849450/1/

    Replies: @Twinkie

  72. @syonredux
    @Brutusale


    If you want a real man to act today, you have to go foreign.
     
    Depends on how you define "real men":

    From an interview in UK Marie Claire:

    This much candour makes you wonder whether Hardy ever regrets being, well, quite frank. 'I don't regret anything I've ever said It's just a shame things are misconstrued and I don't get the opportunity to explain.' Not even the time he said he'd enjoyed relationships with men in his twenties?

    'I have never put my p-nis in a man,' is Hardy's characteristically direct response. 'Ive never had a c--k in my arse, and I have no f--king desire for it. If that's what you like, cool. But it doesn't do it for me.' He's irritated his words were taken out of context but concedes, 'one thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about'.

    Discussion of Hardy's sexual past sprang to life last summer when the actor, then starring in Inception, was quoted by the Daily Mail:

    "The 32-year-old Inception star, who is engaged to British actress Charlotte Riley, 28, and also has a two-year-old son with a former girlfriend. But asked if he'd ever had any sexual relations with other men, the broody actor said: 'As a boy? Of course I have. I'm an actor for ****'s sake. 'I've played with everything and everyone. I love the form and the physicality, but now that I'm in my thirties, it doesn't do it for me. I'm done experimenting but there's plenty of stuff in a relationship with another man, especially gay men, that I need in my life. A lot of gay men get my thing for shoes. I have definite feminine qualities and a lot of gay men are incredibly masculine.'"

     

    http://www.towleroad.com/2011/09/from-an-interview-in-marie-claire-this-much-candour-makes-you-wonder-whether-hardy-ever-regrets-being-well-quite-frank-i.html

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Depends on how you define “real men”

    Who got in trouble recently by saying “scratch an actors and you will find an actress”?

  73. I saw this when it came out in the UK in January. Quite good, the crowd really appreciated a decent sci-fi movie that was not a blockbuster or a comic book sequel.

  74. @jesse
    Oscar Isaac has a likable screen presence. First saw him in Body of Lies as DiCaprio's Iraqi helper and was very surprised that he's not Arab. As King John in Robin Hood he played a bad guy but was still likeable. He was the only highlight in the otherwise dull movies Inside Llewyn Davis and A Most Violent Year.

    Here's his page at jewornotjew: http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=1855

    they rate him as barely a jew

    Replies: @Alfa158

    The real King John was a blond, blue-eyed Nordic type as you would expect a Norman to be. It’s interesting that a dark guy is always cast to play him. I guess even in our PC world the entertainment industry can’t always get away from the stereotype of the darker villain.

  75. @Twinkie

    Vikander’s very good at playing intelligent, aristocratic young ladies whom bright men want to rescue. Actresses are getting posher these days, and Vikander can give Keira Knightley and Carey Mulligan a run for their old money.
     
    I don't care for Knightley at all, but I liked Carey Mulligan in "An Education," "Never Let Me Go," and "Shame."

    Vikander... Wow, what a beauty. Captures that "intelligent, aristocratic" Germanic-Nordic look perfectly. She's a brunette on top of that. I could not take my eyes off her in "A Royal Affair." I thought she overshadowed Mads Mikkelsen in that film, and that's saying something (I have been a big fan of Mikkelsen since seeing "Prag," "Adam's Apple," and "After the Wedding").

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Vikander… Wow, what a beauty. Captures that “intelligent, aristocratic” Germanic-Nordic look perfectly.”

    Alicia Vikander is not Nordic at all from a phenotype standpoint. Everybody on this racial anthropology discussion board Anthroscape describe her phenotype as Mediterranean looking and they all agree she does not look like the typical average Swede.
    http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/4849450/1/

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Jefferson


    Everybody on this racial anthropology discussion board Anthroscape describe her phenotype as Mediterranean looking and they all agree she does not look like the typical average Swede.
     
    Did you even read the link you posted? Not "all agree she does not look like the typical average Swede." One commenter wrote "She could easily pass as default Swedish."

    I've been to Sweden and Germany numerous times (I have a school chum from Sweden whom I visited several times, and I worked in Germany for a stretch). Not all Nordics and Germans look like Elin Nordegren or the "Swedish Bikini Team." That's a lazy stereotype. Even in Sweden a large fraction of the people are brunettes (at least half, possibly more), not blondes. Vikander is pretty so she'll stick out anywhere, but otherwise she can blend in easily in Sweden and Germany.

    People sometimes get fixated on certain stereotypes and have trouble with reality. For another example, look no further than the Icelandic singer Bjork whom many assume is part Asian or Inuit when she is simply Icelandic with some Celtic genes. The puffy cheeks and slanted eye look that some folks associate only with East Asians are cold weather adaptations and are also found in northern Europe, albeit in smaller numbers.

    Replies: @Jefferson

  76. @Unzerker
    @Steve Sailer

    Interesting...The ice didn't go nearly that far south though. The ice shelves reached about halfway through the Netherlands, so you would expect the people around Calais to be the first there. If there were any people still living there, that is.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast

    Think about the far north of Canada, Alaska or Russia and think how much farther south from the glacier people would have to live for the land to support a population of any size. I’ve seen the Ice Age population maps Steve Sailer refers to and it shows three clusters of people on the Iberian peninsula, in what’s mordern day Macedonia and Serbia and then on the northeast shore of the Black Sea.

  77. @Brutusale
    @Mr. Anon

    If you want a real man to act today, you have to go foreign.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Romanian

    Chechens, Africans, Middle Easterners… take your pick.

  78. Great thriller! Really thought they should have run with the angle that Caleb was the machine though. Would have taken it all to an even higher level.

  79. @dsgntd_plyr
    @Steve Sailer

    There was a discussion over at Roosh's about how gay and straight white guys in DC are increasingly indistinguishable from each other. I live in the DC area, it's true, Millennial white guys are soft. Maybe it's national.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Maybe it’s national.

    It’s not.

    Illegitimate wealth and power have produced effeminacy in men throughout history.

  80. I found it impossible to suspend disbelief; that is not in northern Norway.

  81. @Jefferson
    @Twinkie

    "Vikander… Wow, what a beauty. Captures that “intelligent, aristocratic” Germanic-Nordic look perfectly."

    Alicia Vikander is not Nordic at all from a phenotype standpoint. Everybody on this racial anthropology discussion board Anthroscape describe her phenotype as Mediterranean looking and they all agree she does not look like the typical average Swede.
    http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/4849450/1/

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Everybody on this racial anthropology discussion board Anthroscape describe her phenotype as Mediterranean looking and they all agree she does not look like the typical average Swede.

    Did you even read the link you posted? Not “all agree she does not look like the typical average Swede.” One commenter wrote “She could easily pass as default Swedish.”

    I’ve been to Sweden and Germany numerous times (I have a school chum from Sweden whom I visited several times, and I worked in Germany for a stretch). Not all Nordics and Germans look like Elin Nordegren or the “Swedish Bikini Team.” That’s a lazy stereotype. Even in Sweden a large fraction of the people are brunettes (at least half, possibly more), not blondes. Vikander is pretty so she’ll stick out anywhere, but otherwise she can blend in easily in Sweden and Germany.

    People sometimes get fixated on certain stereotypes and have trouble with reality. For another example, look no further than the Icelandic singer Bjork whom many assume is part Asian or Inuit when she is simply Icelandic with some Celtic genes. The puffy cheeks and slanted eye look that some folks associate only with East Asians are cold weather adaptations and are also found in northern Europe, albeit in smaller numbers.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Twinkie

    "Vikander is pretty so she’ll stick out anywhere, but otherwise she can blend in easily in Sweden and Germany."

    She looks about as typically Swedish as Canelo Alvarez looks typically Mexican. Not many Swedes would be classified as having a Mediterranean looking phenotype on racial anthropology boards. Just like not many Mexicans are gingers.

    What makes Alicia Vikander even less a typical Swede is that she has brown eyes when the vast majority of Swedes whether they are blonde or brunette have blue eyes.

  82. @Jefferson
    Steve you should make a blog about a Kentucky sheriff who felt relieved that one of his deputies shot a White man and not a Black man. You should title it "White Lives Do Not Matter".

    Replies: @Twinkie

    You should title it “White Lives Do Not Matter”.

    Ever heard of John Geer? Of course not. He was white. The mainstream media, except for some local coverage, was completely missing in that police shooting.

  83. @Mr. Anon
    @syonredux

    Quinn didn't just play italians, greeks, and mexicans; he played ukrainians, siberians, arabs, and eskimoes. The only actor to come close in the range of people he played was Omar Sharif, who played arabs, russians, germans, mongols, and americans. Although, it should be noted that even John Wayne once played a mongol.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous, @Twinkie

    Although, it should be noted that even John Wayne once played a mongol.

    John Wayne as Genghis Khan was just priceless. Hey, he wore an eye makeup, so it’s all good. It didn’t quite rise to the level of Mickey Rooney as a Japanese though.

    But then again, Charlton Heston played Judah Ben-Hur. I wasn’t there, but I am pretty sure the Jews of that period didn’t look very Anglo-Scottish.

    Hollywood is magic.

    • Replies: @Oswald Spengler
    @Twinkie

    "But then again, Charlton Heston played Judah Ben-Hur. I wasn’t there, but I am pretty sure the Jews of that period didn’t look very Anglo-Scottish."

    "Hollywood is magic."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i_9rrNqyQE

  84. @Twinkie
    @Jefferson


    Everybody on this racial anthropology discussion board Anthroscape describe her phenotype as Mediterranean looking and they all agree she does not look like the typical average Swede.
     
    Did you even read the link you posted? Not "all agree she does not look like the typical average Swede." One commenter wrote "She could easily pass as default Swedish."

    I've been to Sweden and Germany numerous times (I have a school chum from Sweden whom I visited several times, and I worked in Germany for a stretch). Not all Nordics and Germans look like Elin Nordegren or the "Swedish Bikini Team." That's a lazy stereotype. Even in Sweden a large fraction of the people are brunettes (at least half, possibly more), not blondes. Vikander is pretty so she'll stick out anywhere, but otherwise she can blend in easily in Sweden and Germany.

    People sometimes get fixated on certain stereotypes and have trouble with reality. For another example, look no further than the Icelandic singer Bjork whom many assume is part Asian or Inuit when she is simply Icelandic with some Celtic genes. The puffy cheeks and slanted eye look that some folks associate only with East Asians are cold weather adaptations and are also found in northern Europe, albeit in smaller numbers.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Vikander is pretty so she’ll stick out anywhere, but otherwise she can blend in easily in Sweden and Germany.”

    She looks about as typically Swedish as Canelo Alvarez looks typically Mexican. Not many Swedes would be classified as having a Mediterranean looking phenotype on racial anthropology boards. Just like not many Mexicans are gingers.

    What makes Alicia Vikander even less a typical Swede is that she has brown eyes when the vast majority of Swedes whether they are blonde or brunette have blue eyes.

  85. @Fredrik
    @Tacitus2016

    I don't believe she's Jewish. Googling doesn't find any traces of that and her name betrays no Jewishness.

    Replies: @Tacitus2016

    Yes sorry. Probably an unreliable bio. Also says she has grey eyes and she appears to have dark eyes.

  86. Movie sounded interesting to me so I googled the director and see he’s the grandson of the great biologist Peter Medawar (I’m sure Steve is all over that already).

    I always remember Medawar’s name being attached to an endorsing remark used on the blurb for John R Baker’s ‘Race’ book (which Steve amusingly tried way too hard to be negative about in his Amazon review, & only 4 stars??).

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @inselaffen

    "see he’s the grandson of the great biologist Peter Medawar (I’m sure Steve is all over that already)."

    I did not know that. I think Mrs. Thatcher told me she took a class from Medawar.

  87. @inselaffen
    Movie sounded interesting to me so I googled the director and see he's the grandson of the great biologist Peter Medawar (I'm sure Steve is all over that already).

    I always remember Medawar's name being attached to an endorsing remark used on the blurb for John R Baker's 'Race' book (which Steve amusingly tried way too hard to be negative about in his Amazon review, & only 4 stars??).

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    “see he’s the grandson of the great biologist Peter Medawar (I’m sure Steve is all over that already).”

    I did not know that. I think Mrs. Thatcher told me she took a class from Medawar.

  88. @Anonymous
    @Mr. Anon

    Yul Brynner played a wide range as well. He played Russians, an Arab, Egyptian, Thai, Japanese, and even a Southerner in The Sound and the Fury.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Yes, I had quite forgotten Brynner. He even played a german officer once, in “Triple Cross”.

  89. I recommend it but then again my mind is easily swayed by the highly attractive nudity.

  90. @Twinkie
    @Mr. Anon


    Although, it should be noted that even John Wayne once played a mongol.
     
    John Wayne as Genghis Khan was just priceless. Hey, he wore an eye makeup, so it's all good. It didn't quite rise to the level of Mickey Rooney as a Japanese though.

    https://gcaggiano.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/john-wayne-genghis-khan.jpg

    But then again, Charlton Heston played Judah Ben-Hur. I wasn't there, but I am pretty sure the Jews of that period didn't look very Anglo-Scottish.

    Hollywood is magic.

    Replies: @Oswald Spengler

    “But then again, Charlton Heston played Judah Ben-Hur. I wasn’t there, but I am pretty sure the Jews of that period didn’t look very Anglo-Scottish.”

    “Hollywood is magic.”

  91. Entertaining film. Not a classic by any means, but an engaging film. I also like message, which was a pretty scathing indictment of beta males and SJW influenced thinking.

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