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There’s a certain Darkness at Noon vibe to the Justice Department’s jihad against Ferguson over its history of more blacks than whites getting in trouble with the cops (to make up for the fact that Holder’s Department couldn’t figure out any plausible justification for subjecting Darren Wilson to double jeopardy to please the outgoing boss).

But if everyone is guilty, then the Justice Department can just hammer any town they feel like?

Here’s the NYT’s graph based on the supposedly damning statistics in the Justice Department’s report:

Screenshot 2015-03-05 01.04.19

Okay, but is everyone guilty? Can any municipality in America produce a graph where blacks don’t get in trouble with the law more than whites? The existence of equal numbers of White Malefactors somewhere or other is presumed, but can anybody identify the actual place?

If there is one, my guess would be that it would be in a white part of the country next to a big Air Force base, where most of the blacks came to town because they were eligible to join the Air Force. (These days, you have to score at close to the 50th percentile on the heavily g-loaded AFQT enlistment cognitive test to get into the Air Force.) Off the top of my head, Minot, North Dakota sounds like the best hope for a town where blacks don’t get arrested more often than whites.

So, does anybody know of crime statistics by race in Minot? (You’d need to drill down by age and sex to get an apples to apples comparison.)

Obama’s Honolulu, a Navy town, might be another candidate. Perhaps Hilo?

Another possibility would be a municipality where most of the blacks are elite immigrants. For example, Eric Holder himself grew up in a “West Indian enclave.” But that was in New York, where the cops hassle African-Americans constantly. Houston has a lot of educated Africans attracted by the oil industry and Akeem Olajuwon’s fame. But New York and Houston are big cities with lots of American blacks.

Does anybody have any suggestions?

By the way, the chorus chord progression (2:01) from this 2009 song is pretty much “Money” by Pink Floyd.

It’s tough being a band these days because it’s all been done before.

In fact, wasn’t “It’s All Been Done Before” a hit in the previous millenium?

And if I play the same three chords,
Will you just yawn and say

It’s all been done
It’s all been done
It’s all been done before

 
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  1. How about an Ivy League town with a relatively small African-Aamerican population not associated with the university? Cambridge (which has MIT as well as Harvard) would qualify, but New Haven (Yale) would not. Princeton, NJ, but not Philadelphia, home to the U of Pennsylvania. Ithaca (Cornell) but not Providence (Brown) and certainly not New York (Columbia).

    • Replies: @mw
    @John C

    Princeton isn't close to being equal. It's a wealthy town whose white population barely commits crimes (remember that most on-campus problems are dealt with by campus police). Then there is a largely-black low-income population, since NJ law requires municipalities to have some affordable housing, plus the town isn't far from Trenton, which is a mostly-black disaster.

    It actually might have one of the larger discrepancies in the country.

    , @Buzz Mohawk
    @John C

    As I've said here before, one of the handful of black guys in my college town raped my girlfriend. It was a very white, affluent, low crime college town with a famously high quality of life. One of the few black people I ever saw there raped my girlfriend.

    Just give up. Blacks commit an overwhelmingly disproportionate number of the crimes in America, because they are different. That's all. Because they are different.

    Eric Holder, Barry Obama, Al Sharpton and all the rest of the black community organizers are just Marxist a**holes who will twist things any way they can to shift the blame to whitey and divide the populace to their advantage.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Polymath
    @John C

    Cambridge MA has a far higher black crime rate. It has projects, and it has plenty of black Bostonians coming through. It's the place where I learned that my liberal upbringing didn't account for reality, and that there were places I shouldn't walk.

    Princeton NJ has a long established black community. It's my impression that it is less mixed with the migrated Southern blacks than many others, at least culturally. It's a small city with a small black population. Many of the blacks were displaced to the outskirts of town when their neighborhood was redeveloped for an upscale shopping/residential complex. Some of them probably had to leave town entirely. The "projects" are modest garden apartments with frequent bus service into town, and I have no anxiety about walking there or in the remnants of the black neighborhood (lots of Hispanic male immigrants there now but I'm kind of old for catcalls.)

    The young black people still face the lure of the 'hood, the pressure to be hard. Trenton is a twenty minute drive.

    Traffic stops? Probably disproportionately black, but out-of-towners.

    , @Eternal Vigilance
    @John C

    Holder could not investigate collegial communities. His agency would be falling all over university sponsored anti-Semitism that is rampant on campuses. And then he would have to acknowledge that it is the Muslim Brotherhood that is at the root of the anti-Semitism. No, we will never see the Department of Justice on University campuses unless they are wearing horse blinders.

  2. Ed says:

    The DOJ report said the disparities couldn’t be explained by crime rates. Of course they didn’t control for age so their controls maybe useless. The only category that I feel there is legitimate complaint is jaywalking. You could fine most people if you tried for jaywalking. So the fact that 93% of those arrested for jaywalking are black is suspicious. Also the emails and the personal accounts some backed by video and even cops are also damning.

    As to where in the country Blacks offend less than Whites I suspect you’re on the right track but maybe some minimum of each population is in order? I recall reading a NY Times article years ago about a section or school in the Bronx where Black kids outperformed Whites in local schools. Evidently the a Blacks and Whites were mostly of immigrant stock, the Blacks being from the Caribbean and the Whites from Albania. Maybe there’s is your the lower black oasis.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Ed

    The walking down the middle of the street thing seems to be a problem in some places but not others. I read an article about a middle class black inner ring suburb of Detroit where the old residents are being driven crazy by new arrivals from Detroit walking in the middle of the street. But I don't recall that in Chicago (although you'd have to be suicidal to walk in the street in Chicago).

    That's also a problem in the San Fernando Valley suburb where I live, although the divide is regional rather than racial. In the quarter square mile tract where I live, the southern three blocks have sidewalks but the northern three blocks don't have sidewalks. So when the Northsiders walk their dogs, they walk right down the middle of the street. And they keep walking down the middle of the street when they come down to our half of the tract ... where there are sidewalks. It drives my wife crazy when she's driving that Northsiders are still walking their Labradors down the middle of the street even though the Southside has sidewalks for them to walk on.

    Replies: @donut, @Hipster, @The Z Blog, @C. Van Carter, @TB

    , @P
    @Ed

    It seems that they waded through tons of emails sent by dozens of people over many years, cherry picked a few crude jokes from them without providing any context, and then implied that those probably highly unusual bits were representative of the mass of correspondence. With such tactics, you could condemn any organization.

    , @Phil
    @Ed

    "So the fact that 93% of those arrested for jaywalking are black is suspicious. "

    actually, I suspect car ownership is disproportionally white, and as a result, pedestrian traffic is disproportionally black

    , @ben tillman
    @Ed


    You could fine most people if you tried for jaywalking. So the fact that 93% of those arrested for jaywalking are black is suspicious.
     
    Why? Blacks are more likely not to own cars and therefore to walk. And there's the problem of jaywalking very slowly, which is an almost exclusively Black thing.
  3. @Ed
    The DOJ report said the disparities couldn't be explained by crime rates. Of course they didn't control for age so their controls maybe useless. The only category that I feel there is legitimate complaint is jaywalking. You could fine most people if you tried for jaywalking. So the fact that 93% of those arrested for jaywalking are black is suspicious. Also the emails and the personal accounts some backed by video and even cops are also damning.

    As to where in the country Blacks offend less than Whites I suspect you're on the right track but maybe some minimum of each population is in order? I recall reading a NY Times article years ago about a section or school in the Bronx where Black kids outperformed Whites in local schools. Evidently the a Blacks and Whites were mostly of immigrant stock, the Blacks being from the Caribbean and the Whites from Albania. Maybe there's is your the lower black oasis.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @P, @Phil, @ben tillman

    The walking down the middle of the street thing seems to be a problem in some places but not others. I read an article about a middle class black inner ring suburb of Detroit where the old residents are being driven crazy by new arrivals from Detroit walking in the middle of the street. But I don’t recall that in Chicago (although you’d have to be suicidal to walk in the street in Chicago).

    That’s also a problem in the San Fernando Valley suburb where I live, although the divide is regional rather than racial. In the quarter square mile tract where I live, the southern three blocks have sidewalks but the northern three blocks don’t have sidewalks. So when the Northsiders walk their dogs, they walk right down the middle of the street. And they keep walking down the middle of the street when they come down to our half of the tract … where there are sidewalks. It drives my wife crazy when she’s driving that Northsiders are still walking their Labradors down the middle of the street even though the Southside has sidewalks for them to walk on.

    • Replies: @donut
    @Steve Sailer

    Walking in the the street is a "black thing" as is just stepping out into traffic whenever the mood strikes . Before I found a way around them I used to drive down Greenmount Ave. to get to work , you had to constantly be on the lookout for the morons to step off the curb and into traffic to cross the street . Once as I was driving that way a dog stepped off the curb to cross , he looked both ways , saw all the traffic and stepped back up onto the sidewalk . So the smartest creature in that 100% black part of town was a dog.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Art Deco, @peterike, @keypusher, @Marc

    , @Hipster
    @Steve Sailer

    A friend from Chicago confirms that black people do indeed walk in the streets all the time. He thought the whole Ferguson thing was ridiculous because the cops should never have stopped them for walking in the street, should have just kept on driving...

    Apparently they p

    , @The Z Blog
    @Steve Sailer

    When it snows, no one cleans their walk in the ghetto so you have to walk in the streets. http://tinyurl.com/pg6z4gy

    I've also observed another fun habit. Young blacks, particularly females, will stand on the curb waiting for the light to change. Just before it turns green, they will saunter into the cross walk, forcing everyone to wait.

    I don't think most non-blacks appreciate just how much most blacks hate the world around them.

    , @C. Van Carter
    @Steve Sailer

    http://youtu.be/4ZUUxBMWXh8

    , @TB
    @Steve Sailer

    Looking forward to youtube-clips featuring driverless cars vs jaywalkers next year;)
    http://observer.com/2015/03/self-driving-cars-will-be-in-30-u-s-cities-by-the-end-of-next-year/

  4. “Putin’s close friend and ally, the Head of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Kadyrov posted a message on his Instagram page with over 848,000 followers, attributing the following quote to Edward Snowden: “They started to eliminate those, whom they have fed for many years. They don’t need those who couldn’t accomplish their plans and those who know their secrets. State Department won’t stop with Nemtsov, they will go further.” Kadyrov did not provide the source of this preposterous statement. Snowden did not post or otherwise disseminate any such allegations through any of his usual means of public communication. On its face, the quote appears to be completely fabricated.”
    http://www.examiner.com/article/russia-s-latest-propaganda-fabrications-involve-adolf-hitler-edward-snowden

    Freeze! Everybody is under arrest! Mike Royko wrote one column a day for decades and never wrote a bad piece. Now? Non-stop non-sense 24/7, quotes that aren’t quotes, every tin-pan dictator or friend of a dictator with a million and one followers, this one accuses that one, they’re going to invade this or that, Reagan Era cranks…blah blah blah. Snowden techno nuts offering by the hour conspiracies. Everybody is guilty and nobody is secure. State Department is launching cyber jihad. The political hacks are all now computer hacks. Buddy can you send a dime? Zombies are on the march. It’s March. It’s cold! Shovel more snow ;-(
    This makes the ice bucket challenge look like childs play. Kids won’t clear walks for a quick buck. Too busy not delivering papers and playing computer games.

    • Replies: @Busby
    @rustbeltreader

    Royko, what a treasure. I loved his continuous attacks on the towing company. Was it Lincoln? Where the owner accused Royko of making his dog so despondent, the dog died.

    , @CK
    @rustbeltreader

    What is so preposterous about that statement?
    As a statement in re The Interests of the State, it is old news. The only difference is that a specific person is named instead of a generality being stated.
    When an asset has outlived its profitability, the asset is disposed of. Retirement, auction, replacement, execution ... the methods are varied the result is the same. We should be seeing a "new name" as the "up and coming"/ replacement leader of the 5% opposition in Russia Real Soon Now.
    That Snowden might not have said those exact words in that exact order is irrelevant. Too much truthiness to be avoided so ... Look A Squirrel.

    , @Cloudbuster
    @rustbeltreader

    Mike Royko wrote one column a day for decades and never wrote a bad piece.</I.

    Hey, Royko thought you shouldn't put ketchup on a hot dog and he was just wrong, and I'll never back down on that! ;)

  5. The chorus chord progression (2:01) from this 2009 song is pretty much “Money” by Pink Floyd.

    It’s tough being a band these days because it’s all been done before.

    In fact, wasn’t “It’s All Been Done Before” a hit in the previous millenium?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Steve Sailer

    And if I play the same three chords,
    Will you just yawn and say

    It's all been done
    It's all been done
    It's all been done before

    Replies: @donut, @SFG

    , @Wade
    @Steve Sailer

    Thanks for the Barenaked Ladies reference. They're my favorite band from the 90's. They're still making really good music. I really hate it that Steven Page quit!

  6. @Steve Sailer
    The chorus chord progression (2:01) from this 2009 song is pretty much "Money" by Pink Floyd.

    It's tough being a band these days because it's all been done before.

    In fact, wasn't "It's All Been Done Before" a hit in the previous millenium?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs3xXlXSOKk

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Wade

    And if I play the same three chords,
    Will you just yawn and say

    It’s all been done
    It’s all been done
    It’s all been done before

    • Replies: @donut
    @Steve Sailer

    Hey , what happened to the 4 min. to edit ?

    , @SFG
    @Steve Sailer

    I have to say, while I totally understand that musical tastes don't have to track with political views, it's kind of funny to see a right-wing blogger being a fan of hardcore lefty bands like the Clash and Pink Floyd.

    Not that I'm criticizing--you've basically turned me on to the Clash at this point. ;)

    Replies: @RJA

  7. How about any town with a correctional facility , the prison pop. is majority black and most towns with prisons are maj. white yet the prisoners are counted as residents of the town . The prisoners obviously can’t commit crimes in the town , one would hope and hey , presto ! a large group of law abiding Negros surrounded by a white criminal class .

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @donut

    "How about any town with a correctional facility"

    That's clever.

    Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith

    , @countenance
    @donut

    A few prison towns in Missouri are such that some of the close relatives of some black relatively short term inmates get an apartment in town so they can be close by and be able to visit more often.

  8. @Steve Sailer
    @Steve Sailer

    And if I play the same three chords,
    Will you just yawn and say

    It's all been done
    It's all been done
    It's all been done before

    Replies: @donut, @SFG

    Hey , what happened to the 4 min. to edit ?

  9. @donut
    How about any town with a correctional facility , the prison pop. is majority black and most towns with prisons are maj. white yet the prisoners are counted as residents of the town . The prisoners obviously can't commit crimes in the town , one would hope and hey , presto ! a large group of law abiding Negros surrounded by a white criminal class .

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @countenance

    “How about any town with a correctional facility”

    That’s clever.

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
    @Steve Sailer


    How about any town with a correctional facility , the prison pop. is majority black and most towns with prisons are maj. white yet the prisoners are counted as residents of the town
     
    There may be an exception or two, but correctional institutions are state or federal properties, and do not zone to the serving town or city, plus census and demographics are separate by regulation. This is typical for reasons of tax revenue allocation -- states don't credit municipalities with the population in the local prison.
  10. @Steve Sailer
    @Ed

    The walking down the middle of the street thing seems to be a problem in some places but not others. I read an article about a middle class black inner ring suburb of Detroit where the old residents are being driven crazy by new arrivals from Detroit walking in the middle of the street. But I don't recall that in Chicago (although you'd have to be suicidal to walk in the street in Chicago).

    That's also a problem in the San Fernando Valley suburb where I live, although the divide is regional rather than racial. In the quarter square mile tract where I live, the southern three blocks have sidewalks but the northern three blocks don't have sidewalks. So when the Northsiders walk their dogs, they walk right down the middle of the street. And they keep walking down the middle of the street when they come down to our half of the tract ... where there are sidewalks. It drives my wife crazy when she's driving that Northsiders are still walking their Labradors down the middle of the street even though the Southside has sidewalks for them to walk on.

    Replies: @donut, @Hipster, @The Z Blog, @C. Van Carter, @TB

    Walking in the the street is a “black thing” as is just stepping out into traffic whenever the mood strikes . Before I found a way around them I used to drive down Greenmount Ave. to get to work , you had to constantly be on the lookout for the morons to step off the curb and into traffic to cross the street . Once as I was driving that way a dog stepped off the curb to cross , he looked both ways , saw all the traffic and stepped back up onto the sidewalk . So the smartest creature in that 100% black part of town was a dog.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @donut

    Walking in the the street is a “black thing” as is just stepping out into traffic whenever the mood strikes .

    I live near a city which is 35-percent black. I rarely venture in, but had some business there a few weeks ago. The "blacks walking out into traffic" thing was so striking that I had to tell my wife about it when I got home. There's an insolence about it, a "Go ahead, make my day!" attitude. Perhaps a large settlement is something a lot of jaywalkers aspire to. It's not only the young guys and the homeless guys, either. An old black lady, walking with a cane, started out across the crosswalk with the crossing sign indicating six seconds until the light change, by which time she was only a third of the way across, making us all wait through the light. Maybe she was cognitively unable to do the math required to make the judgment aboput whether or not to cross.

    Replies: @unit472, @anonymous, @The Plutonium Kid

    , @Art Deco
    @donut

    Before I found a way around them I used to drive down Greenmount Ave.
    -
    Small world. I used to live about 2 blocks from there.

    , @peterike
    @donut


    Walking in the the street is a “black thing” as is just stepping out into traffic whenever the mood strikes .

     

    Black privilege.

    Replies: @Big Bill

    , @keypusher
    @donut

    The NYC equivalent on the subway is standing in the car with your back to the open door, blocking as much of the door as possible. Double points if it's rush hour. It's not only black men who do it, but they've got to be 90% of the offenders. It's hard to imagine that it's not deliberate.

    See also http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=shaft+opening+credits&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=3568CFFD28D2F320ECD93568CFFD28D2F320ECD9. Shaft was a walking quality-of-life violation.

    , @Marc
    @donut

    I see this all over Memphis, but they know better than to push it to the same levels while visiting the suburbs. Blacks also seem to be aware that Whites driving through the hood are less likely to be hip to their antics, so they tend to back off before starting their jaywalk across six lanes of traffic during rush hour.

  11. mw says:
    @John C
    How about an Ivy League town with a relatively small African-Aamerican population not associated with the university? Cambridge (which has MIT as well as Harvard) would qualify, but New Haven (Yale) would not. Princeton, NJ, but not Philadelphia, home to the U of Pennsylvania. Ithaca (Cornell) but not Providence (Brown) and certainly not New York (Columbia).

    Replies: @mw, @Buzz Mohawk, @Polymath, @Eternal Vigilance

    Princeton isn’t close to being equal. It’s a wealthy town whose white population barely commits crimes (remember that most on-campus problems are dealt with by campus police). Then there is a largely-black low-income population, since NJ law requires municipalities to have some affordable housing, plus the town isn’t far from Trenton, which is a mostly-black disaster.

    It actually might have one of the larger discrepancies in the country.

  12. Speaking of classics… ‘Express Yourself’ from NWA (Niggaz Wit Attitude)

    [assertive] I’m expressin’ with my full capability
    [rueful] And now I’m livin’ in correctional facility

    And yeah, they walk into traffic. Got nothing to lose and might win a settlement.

  13. I remember reading Queens (yup, the NYC borough) had a higher black than white income due to lots of Caribbeans. You might actually be able to find statistics on that one.

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    @SFG

    @Steve Sailer


    "But that was in New York, where the cops hassle African-Americans constantly. "

     

    Not in the sort of place where Eric Holder grew up.

    "I remember reading Queens (yup, the NYC borough) had a higher black than white income due to lots of Caribbeans. You might actually be able to find statistics on that one."

     

    That was likely true at one point in history, when many whites left/died, but not sure of now. But these things are moving targets.

    Queens in the 1950s-60s when I grew up was solidly white and middle class. Then working class whites began to move out/die, Caribs moved in, so that time period might be where that stat came from.

    It is now the most diverse place in the country, which is of course the proper way to be according to our glorious leader. And anyone who disagrees gets richwined,eiched, and watsoned.

    There were very rich white enclaves of Queens, such as Douglaston, where John McEnroe grew up. but I would not be surprised if a lot of Asians/Persians/Russians have moved there.

  14. P says:
    @Ed
    The DOJ report said the disparities couldn't be explained by crime rates. Of course they didn't control for age so their controls maybe useless. The only category that I feel there is legitimate complaint is jaywalking. You could fine most people if you tried for jaywalking. So the fact that 93% of those arrested for jaywalking are black is suspicious. Also the emails and the personal accounts some backed by video and even cops are also damning.

    As to where in the country Blacks offend less than Whites I suspect you're on the right track but maybe some minimum of each population is in order? I recall reading a NY Times article years ago about a section or school in the Bronx where Black kids outperformed Whites in local schools. Evidently the a Blacks and Whites were mostly of immigrant stock, the Blacks being from the Caribbean and the Whites from Albania. Maybe there's is your the lower black oasis.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @P, @Phil, @ben tillman

    It seems that they waded through tons of emails sent by dozens of people over many years, cherry picked a few crude jokes from them without providing any context, and then implied that those probably highly unusual bits were representative of the mass of correspondence. With such tactics, you could condemn any organization.

  15. bomag [AKA "doombuggy"] says:

    Isn’t there a biblical story along these lines…the story of Lot? “If ten righteous can be found, it will vindicate this wicked policy…”

    So when the SJWs can’t find even ten to justify their policy, one can only hope fire and brimstone will come down and relieve us of this burden.

  16. I don’t think you’ll find it but try Anchorage, AK.

    • Replies: @David
    @JVO

    Can't find Anchorage but for whole state, 4% black, 21%,12%,12% and 13% back perp for robbery, rape, murder, and aggravated assault, respectively. I've always felt that the black people in Alaska were very integrated and friendly. But the ones I met are pilots and outdoors men.

  17. @Ed
    The DOJ report said the disparities couldn't be explained by crime rates. Of course they didn't control for age so their controls maybe useless. The only category that I feel there is legitimate complaint is jaywalking. You could fine most people if you tried for jaywalking. So the fact that 93% of those arrested for jaywalking are black is suspicious. Also the emails and the personal accounts some backed by video and even cops are also damning.

    As to where in the country Blacks offend less than Whites I suspect you're on the right track but maybe some minimum of each population is in order? I recall reading a NY Times article years ago about a section or school in the Bronx where Black kids outperformed Whites in local schools. Evidently the a Blacks and Whites were mostly of immigrant stock, the Blacks being from the Caribbean and the Whites from Albania. Maybe there's is your the lower black oasis.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @P, @Phil, @ben tillman

    “So the fact that 93% of those arrested for jaywalking are black is suspicious. ”

    actually, I suspect car ownership is disproportionally white, and as a result, pedestrian traffic is disproportionally black

  18. The area around Hill AFB in Utah would be another possibility, if it weren’t for the fact that it’s heavily Mormon.

  19. @Steve Sailer
    @Ed

    The walking down the middle of the street thing seems to be a problem in some places but not others. I read an article about a middle class black inner ring suburb of Detroit where the old residents are being driven crazy by new arrivals from Detroit walking in the middle of the street. But I don't recall that in Chicago (although you'd have to be suicidal to walk in the street in Chicago).

    That's also a problem in the San Fernando Valley suburb where I live, although the divide is regional rather than racial. In the quarter square mile tract where I live, the southern three blocks have sidewalks but the northern three blocks don't have sidewalks. So when the Northsiders walk their dogs, they walk right down the middle of the street. And they keep walking down the middle of the street when they come down to our half of the tract ... where there are sidewalks. It drives my wife crazy when she's driving that Northsiders are still walking their Labradors down the middle of the street even though the Southside has sidewalks for them to walk on.

    Replies: @donut, @Hipster, @The Z Blog, @C. Van Carter, @TB

    A friend from Chicago confirms that black people do indeed walk in the streets all the time. He thought the whole Ferguson thing was ridiculous because the cops should never have stopped them for walking in the street, should have just kept on driving…

    Apparently they p

  20. Two army bases.

    Fort Leavenworth. The ‘graduate school’ of the army, it is basically a base with officer education and doctrine writing. Few enlisted soldiers (and most of them are MP’s).

    Unfortunately, it also has the federal penitentiary (and several other state/local prisons), with the associated dregs, so I’d guess the racial imbalance in behavior is at least as prevalent as elsewhere.
    So Fort Leavenworth is out.

    Carlisle Pennsylvania. Home of the Army War college. Without knowing the town, I wouldn’t be surprised if virtually all the African Americans in the area are high ranking officers and NCOs associated with the college itself. It may even be that whites are arrested more frequently than blacks. It would be a small, preposterously artificial environment, though.

    joey

    (West Point, New York?)

    • Replies: @drunkenrabbit
    @joeyjoejoe

    Carlisle also has Dickinson college, which I'm sure would make the balance even more favorable. But it still doesn't seem to work. Carlisle is 89% white and still has a significantly higher crime rate than nearby Mechanicsburg, which is 97% white.

  21. The most ridiculous part is, even if you’re a committed to the doctrine of racial egalitarian creationism, there’s simply no reason to think that any realistic policing procedures wouldn’t result in disparate impact. You can admit that the NAM neighborhoods in your city have more crime without putting forward a hatehypothesis as to why that is — you can fall back on poverty, schools, whatever you like. But the police are still going to devote more patrol efforts to higher-crime neighborhoods, and even if they followed perfectly race-blind practices within those neighborhoods, doing stop-and-frisks and handing out traffic tickets completely at random, minorities would still be overrepresented in those statistics simply because they’re overrepresented in those neighborhoods compared to the city as a whole.

    Of course there’s no shortage of megaphonies who will do their damnedest to avoid mentioning the most obvious confounding factors when they dog-whistle their readers with these statistics, or who will say that if it’s not racially biased policing per se, it’s a present harm caused by the lingering effects of past discrimination. But it’s beyond ridiculous for the one arm of the federal government that should know a thing or two about how law enforcement actually works to peddle this kind of innumerate nonsense.

  22. I don’t know about walking in the middle of the street, but stepping out into traffic and jaywalking seems to be a characteristic of recent Hispamic arrivals. Along heavily Hispanic Buford Highway in Atlanta Metro, traffic islands and signaled crosswalks have had to be installed due to the ridiculously high rate of pedestrian collisions.

    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    @Hapalong Cassidy


    I don’t know about walking in the middle of the street, but stepping out into traffic and jaywalking seems to be a characteristic of recent Hispamic arrivals.
     
    Interesting. Where I live, sauntering into traffic is almost exclusively black. Part of "Black Privilege" as noted above.

    What the hispanics do without fail is stop their vehicles in the driving lanes to get out and go into a shop, visit with friends, etc. On four-lane roadways this isn't such a hassle but two-lane streets become impassible anywhere near the barrio. IDK, maybe that's part of the plan.

  23. Mr Google said:

    10 of the Richest Black Communities in America
    http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/01/03/10-richest-black-communities-america/

    Maryland, has the most for some reason.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @George

    Because it has bedroom communities for federal workers.

    Replies: @george

    , @donut
    @George

    PG county , close to Wash. D. C. state and federal job programs .

    # Employer # of Employees
    1 University System of Maryland 16,014
    2 Joint Base Andrews 8,057
    3 Prince George's County 7,052
    4 Internal Revenue Service 5,539
    5 United States Census Bureau 4,287
    6 Goddard Space Flight Center 3,171
    7 Henry A. Wallace Beltsville Agricultural Research Center 1,850
    8 National Maritime Intelligence Center 1,724
    9 Prince George's Community College 1,700
    10 NOAA 1,350

    , @dcite
    @George

    Suburb of D.C. A lot of government jobs in D.C. and the surrounding Maryland suburbs. Also Virginia, although more blacks in Maryland. Prince Georges was one of the first Md. suburbs to attract this vibrant middle class and it's now known for being bad in any number of ways.
    I have tried and tried to get past my "racism" -- which is basically just realizing, observing, and reacting in a self-protective way -- to what is happening all around me. It does feel to whites like the world is insane. We are the ones in danger, and yet the ones who commit most of the crimes are celebrated as victims. It's sickening. Even decent blacks must find it exasperating as they move to get away from crime and find that the criminals find it easier to circulated in areas with people who look like them.

  24. @donut
    @Steve Sailer

    Walking in the the street is a "black thing" as is just stepping out into traffic whenever the mood strikes . Before I found a way around them I used to drive down Greenmount Ave. to get to work , you had to constantly be on the lookout for the morons to step off the curb and into traffic to cross the street . Once as I was driving that way a dog stepped off the curb to cross , he looked both ways , saw all the traffic and stepped back up onto the sidewalk . So the smartest creature in that 100% black part of town was a dog.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Art Deco, @peterike, @keypusher, @Marc

    Walking in the the street is a “black thing” as is just stepping out into traffic whenever the mood strikes .

    I live near a city which is 35-percent black. I rarely venture in, but had some business there a few weeks ago. The “blacks walking out into traffic” thing was so striking that I had to tell my wife about it when I got home. There’s an insolence about it, a “Go ahead, make my day!” attitude. Perhaps a large settlement is something a lot of jaywalkers aspire to. It’s not only the young guys and the homeless guys, either. An old black lady, walking with a cane, started out across the crosswalk with the crossing sign indicating six seconds until the light change, by which time she was only a third of the way across, making us all wait through the light. Maybe she was cognitively unable to do the math required to make the judgment aboput whether or not to cross.

    • Replies: @unit472
    @Harry Baldwin

    Blacks view the sidewalk, street, open space as extensions of their homes and a place to socialize. It maybe genetic because you see it all over the world. Compare that to whites who almost never use their front yards or sidewalks for social purposes but gather in their more private backyards for socializing. That too maybe genetic as European and American architecture make the front of a property a grand display with big manicured lawns and plantings but it is the backyard that has the pool, patio, deck, garden etc for entertaining.

    Replies: @dcite

    , @anonymous
    @Harry Baldwin


    Perhaps a large settlement is something a lot of jaywalkers aspire to. It’s not only the young guys and the homeless guys, either
     
    I've heard blacks talking about how they used to lurch in front of oncoming cars that looked like the owner would likely have good insurance, such as a Mercedes, then agilely bounce off it with their hands claiming to have gotten hit and filing suit. Always looking to win the ghetto lottery.
    Anything that comes out of Holder's DOJ is bound to be worthless. The real deal is that blacks are under-arrested because they get away with much more. Career criminals commit many crimes before getting caught for one; think of all the unsolved homicides in large cities, for example. Probably half the male black population would be in prison right now were everything they'd done in the past to be made known. Holder has the typical black mentality of self-infatuation and being incapable of seeing things from the viewpoint of others, a trait that never evolved amongst that group.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    , @The Plutonium Kid
    @Harry Baldwin

    Many blacks do this to show their contempt for whites.

  25. Britain has a multiplicity of West Indian blacks.
    Let me state here that they are *not* renowned for their law-abiding ways.

  26. The high crime rate is basically a product of the back underclass, descendants of the antebellum field hands. They have by far the highest proportion of sub-Saharan African DNA.

    Liberals and black elites prefer to expand the definition of “black” and “African American” to include high-performing groups such as middle and upper class immigrants from Africa and the non-Hispanic Caribbean, not to mention the traditional “mulatto elite” descendants of antebellum whites combined with the offspring of recent interracial marriages. You might say that padding the black “resume” makes blacks appear much better than they really are. Refine the definition of American black to something sensible, and the statistics would REALLY shock you.

    http://madamenoire.com/302769/celebrities-most-people-dont-know-are-black/

    http://madamenoire.com/76249/you-family-celebs-who-we-didnt-know-were-black/

    http://madamenoire.com/481003/historical-figures-you-didnt-know-were-black/

  27. Things would be so much easier if white men didn’t exist

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
    @Tiny Duck

    "Things would be so much easier if white men didn’t exist"

    White folks can politically choose to not exist by ending the GOP.
    And then you will see the house of cards fall.

    It's because the GOP exists that there's the perception of this Great Evil White Power.

    End it, and all eyes are fixed on Democratic power dominated by bagels and fruits.

    While the Liberal elites feign that what they fear MOST is the evil white right, what they really fear most is leftism and tide of color.
    After all, most white cons and rightists are essentially whores of power. The hope of the likes of Jared Taylor is for rich whites and Jews to side with conservatism. Most rightists don't want to attack the rich. They don't want to attack power, privilege, and etc. Their only beef is that the rich, the powerful, and privileged tend to be 'leftist', politically correct, and 'anti-white'. They don't have problems with power, privilege, and inequality itself. They dream that the billionaire oligarchs and elites will be on the side of conservatives and rightists.

    In contrast, the left(and I mean the REAL LEFT than the faux fruity 'left') has problems with inequality of power, wealth, privilege, and etc. And non-whites really resent white 'power and privilege'.
    So, the rich and privileged Liberals have more to fear from the Left than from the Right.
    The Liberal elites control the Left by pretending that they are working so hard to hold back the 'evil racist' Right for the benefit of the Left and people of color. As long as the GOP exists, the rich and powerful Liberal elites can fool the Left and non-whites with this Narrative.
    "If not for us liberal elites, GOP racists will take over and bring back slavery and all women will be raped!!!!"

    But suppose the GOP is over. There is no more 'eeeeeevil white power structure'.
    The Liberal elites will rule all. And then, they will have to justify their power and privilege to the masses of people(who are not rich) and the rising tide of color. Without the GOP, it will be much tougher for the Lib elites to scapegoat the 'white rightist evil'.

    And since the rich white and Jewish libs dumped on us, we will not come to their rescue.
    If anything, we will feign faux-leftism and pretend to side with the lower classes and tide of color to bring down the Liberal elite system of power.

    This gambit is the only move left for the Right.

  28. Tom says:

    “You could fine most people if you tried for jaywalking. So the fact that 93% of those arrested for jaywalking are black is suspicious. ”

    Not in my experience. Having lived in the inner city (which was in the process of gentrifying) for a period of years, the number of blacks that chose to walk in the streets versus the available sidewalks was very curious and something I could never quite figure out.

  29. I have to say though, that it does seem like Ferguson was run something like a criminal enterprise, even if they didn’t go around shooting “unarmed black youths” in the back.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/05/us/us-details-a-persistent-pattern-of-police-discrimination-in-a-small-missouri-city.html?emc=edit_th_20150305&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=62382746&_r=0

  30. A few weeks back I was talking with some friends about the possibility to quantifying the number of possible guitar riffs. The subject came up because of a story about a long running lawsuit over Stairway to Heaven. Off the top of our heads we came up with a dozen examples where one song has similar sounds to another. That led to thinking about the math of it.

    It seems to me that you would first start by limiting the number of notes that constitute a rock and roll guitar riff. Then eliminate the possible combinations a human could never master. Having never played the guitar, I’m imagining there’s some limits due to bio-mechanics. Then you get rid of the sound combinations that are horrible.

    Music is just math so it seems like a pretty straight forward project, as long as you know something about music. Add in drums, bass versus rhythm guitar and you could create a database of all possible rock and roll diddies. I’m guessing this has been done, but I don’t follow popular music all that much so I could be all wrong.

  31. SFG says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @Steve Sailer

    And if I play the same three chords,
    Will you just yawn and say

    It's all been done
    It's all been done
    It's all been done before

    Replies: @donut, @SFG

    I have to say, while I totally understand that musical tastes don’t have to track with political views, it’s kind of funny to see a right-wing blogger being a fan of hardcore lefty bands like the Clash and Pink Floyd.

    Not that I’m criticizing–you’ve basically turned me on to the Clash at this point. 😉

    • Replies: @RJA
    @SFG

    It's the Marxists that want to politicize everything. Why can't we let music be music?

    For example there's a Palestinian electronic producer whose music I really enjoy, though I completely disagree with his annoying 'Free Palestine' digressions. Am I not allowed to like this? Am I not allowed to like traditional Arabic music in general? What about Wagner?

    Perhaps they are right and everything is indeed political... I don't know.

    Replies: @SFG

  32. @Steve Sailer
    @Ed

    The walking down the middle of the street thing seems to be a problem in some places but not others. I read an article about a middle class black inner ring suburb of Detroit where the old residents are being driven crazy by new arrivals from Detroit walking in the middle of the street. But I don't recall that in Chicago (although you'd have to be suicidal to walk in the street in Chicago).

    That's also a problem in the San Fernando Valley suburb where I live, although the divide is regional rather than racial. In the quarter square mile tract where I live, the southern three blocks have sidewalks but the northern three blocks don't have sidewalks. So when the Northsiders walk their dogs, they walk right down the middle of the street. And they keep walking down the middle of the street when they come down to our half of the tract ... where there are sidewalks. It drives my wife crazy when she's driving that Northsiders are still walking their Labradors down the middle of the street even though the Southside has sidewalks for them to walk on.

    Replies: @donut, @Hipster, @The Z Blog, @C. Van Carter, @TB

    When it snows, no one cleans their walk in the ghetto so you have to walk in the streets. http://tinyurl.com/pg6z4gy

    I’ve also observed another fun habit. Young blacks, particularly females, will stand on the curb waiting for the light to change. Just before it turns green, they will saunter into the cross walk, forcing everyone to wait.

    I don’t think most non-blacks appreciate just how much most blacks hate the world around them.

  33. Once a week or so, I drive through a busy parking lot to get to a favorite restaurant, and pass by a gym that seems to have a 100 percent black clientele.

    The gym members never — NEVER — look right or left when crossing the main section of the lot where cars drive by. They just step right out into traffic and dare you to hit them. And since some are coming and some are going, car drivers have to be especially careful.

    It’s a weird power thing, as if looking out for their own safety is some sign of weakness.

  34. What about areas where a supermajority of the black population are senior citizens? Retirement homes or places where significant gentrification has happened over generations (coming soon)?

  35. @donut
    @Steve Sailer

    Walking in the the street is a "black thing" as is just stepping out into traffic whenever the mood strikes . Before I found a way around them I used to drive down Greenmount Ave. to get to work , you had to constantly be on the lookout for the morons to step off the curb and into traffic to cross the street . Once as I was driving that way a dog stepped off the curb to cross , he looked both ways , saw all the traffic and stepped back up onto the sidewalk . So the smartest creature in that 100% black part of town was a dog.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Art Deco, @peterike, @keypusher, @Marc

    Before I found a way around them I used to drive down Greenmount Ave.

    Small world. I used to live about 2 blocks from there.

  36. @Ed
    The DOJ report said the disparities couldn't be explained by crime rates. Of course they didn't control for age so their controls maybe useless. The only category that I feel there is legitimate complaint is jaywalking. You could fine most people if you tried for jaywalking. So the fact that 93% of those arrested for jaywalking are black is suspicious. Also the emails and the personal accounts some backed by video and even cops are also damning.

    As to where in the country Blacks offend less than Whites I suspect you're on the right track but maybe some minimum of each population is in order? I recall reading a NY Times article years ago about a section or school in the Bronx where Black kids outperformed Whites in local schools. Evidently the a Blacks and Whites were mostly of immigrant stock, the Blacks being from the Caribbean and the Whites from Albania. Maybe there's is your the lower black oasis.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @P, @Phil, @ben tillman

    You could fine most people if you tried for jaywalking. So the fact that 93% of those arrested for jaywalking are black is suspicious.

    Why? Blacks are more likely not to own cars and therefore to walk. And there’s the problem of jaywalking very slowly, which is an almost exclusively Black thing.

  37. @Harry Baldwin
    @donut

    Walking in the the street is a “black thing” as is just stepping out into traffic whenever the mood strikes .

    I live near a city which is 35-percent black. I rarely venture in, but had some business there a few weeks ago. The "blacks walking out into traffic" thing was so striking that I had to tell my wife about it when I got home. There's an insolence about it, a "Go ahead, make my day!" attitude. Perhaps a large settlement is something a lot of jaywalkers aspire to. It's not only the young guys and the homeless guys, either. An old black lady, walking with a cane, started out across the crosswalk with the crossing sign indicating six seconds until the light change, by which time she was only a third of the way across, making us all wait through the light. Maybe she was cognitively unable to do the math required to make the judgment aboput whether or not to cross.

    Replies: @unit472, @anonymous, @The Plutonium Kid

    Blacks view the sidewalk, street, open space as extensions of their homes and a place to socialize. It maybe genetic because you see it all over the world. Compare that to whites who almost never use their front yards or sidewalks for social purposes but gather in their more private backyards for socializing. That too maybe genetic as European and American architecture make the front of a property a grand display with big manicured lawns and plantings but it is the backyard that has the pool, patio, deck, garden etc for entertaining.

    • Replies: @dcite
    @unit472

    Front porches have been a feature of house architecture since the 1800s that I know of. Think of any Victorian house. In the 20th century, row houses in various cities, built for a mostly white population, usually had front porches, and they were used--I grew up in one.
    It does seem to be less common in past few decades. Having a back patio was a prestige thing in the 50s and 60s, and backyard decks became desirable in the 1980s

  38. I doubt even Air Force towns see more whites being arrested than blacks, but the fact that airmen are better behaved than soldiers is pretty well known.

    I lived in a town with both an Army and an Air Force base, and whenever a (usually black) soldier got arrested my black neighbor who was an ex-airman would gently mock my white ex-Army neighbor.

    Let’s examine the reverse, though: which locales have the largest disparity in white vs. black arrests? Without a doubt it is rich, leftist white towns. Can you see Holder and the NYT harassing them?

  39. @donut
    @Steve Sailer

    Walking in the the street is a "black thing" as is just stepping out into traffic whenever the mood strikes . Before I found a way around them I used to drive down Greenmount Ave. to get to work , you had to constantly be on the lookout for the morons to step off the curb and into traffic to cross the street . Once as I was driving that way a dog stepped off the curb to cross , he looked both ways , saw all the traffic and stepped back up onto the sidewalk . So the smartest creature in that 100% black part of town was a dog.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Art Deco, @peterike, @keypusher, @Marc

    Walking in the the street is a “black thing” as is just stepping out into traffic whenever the mood strikes .

    Black privilege.

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    @peterike

    Livin' large. Takin' up space. Dancin' in the streets.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=410DMhkFmRU

  40. “Can You Find a City Where Blacks Aren’t Arrested More Often?”

    No, because America (i.e., whites) is irredeemably racist.

    Isn’t that the only acceptable answer these days?

    “I have to say, while I totally understand that musical tastes don’t have to track with political views, it’s kind of funny to see a right-wing blogger being a fan of hardcore lefty bands like the Clash and Pink Floyd.”

    For this right-winger, it’s not funny, it’s galling. I love Pink Floyd’s music but abhor their politics. Just as I love some of Wagner’s music but abhor his decadence. Ditto Liszt and his vulgarity.

  41. @donut
    How about any town with a correctional facility , the prison pop. is majority black and most towns with prisons are maj. white yet the prisoners are counted as residents of the town . The prisoners obviously can't commit crimes in the town , one would hope and hey , presto ! a large group of law abiding Negros surrounded by a white criminal class .

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @countenance

    A few prison towns in Missouri are such that some of the close relatives of some black relatively short term inmates get an apartment in town so they can be close by and be able to visit more often.

  42. WhatEvvs [AKA "Bemused"] says:
    @SFG
    I remember reading Queens (yup, the NYC borough) had a higher black than white income due to lots of Caribbeans. You might actually be able to find statistics on that one.

    Replies: @WhatEvvs

    “But that was in New York, where the cops hassle African-Americans constantly. ”

    Not in the sort of place where Eric Holder grew up.

    “I remember reading Queens (yup, the NYC borough) had a higher black than white income due to lots of Caribbeans. You might actually be able to find statistics on that one.”

    That was likely true at one point in history, when many whites left/died, but not sure of now. But these things are moving targets.

    Queens in the 1950s-60s when I grew up was solidly white and middle class. Then working class whites began to move out/die, Caribs moved in, so that time period might be where that stat came from.

    It is now the most diverse place in the country, which is of course the proper way to be according to our glorious leader. And anyone who disagrees gets richwined,eiched, and watsoned.

    There were very rich white enclaves of Queens, such as Douglaston, where John McEnroe grew up. but I would not be surprised if a lot of Asians/Persians/Russians have moved there.

  43. The correctional thing might not work out for another reason. Prisoners are often charged with crimes they commit while in prison. Some things are handled as inmate discipline, but serious assaults, murders, etc., will often be presented for indictment.

  44. What Harry says is exactly right. It’s a signal that they don’t need to respect others. Too powerful for that.

    I dated a pretty lady lawyer earning her stripes as public defender in NYC who took pleasure in walking crowds of black men off the sidewalk when they didn’t share it. It’s a rare black thug that doesn’t want to make nice with his defense’s office, once he realizes who he’s talking to. The first time I saw it happening, I am ashamed to say I moved her by the shoulders out of the path a burly duo. She explained that she was making a point. A quick googling shows she lives still.

    The event I most remember like this was the tub of tar tossed on the head of a cop writing tickets for double parked cars in some East River housing project. Alright, Dinkins announced, no more tickets. For the next week or so, no vehicle larger than a roller skate could move through the neighborhood.

  45. Is there a town that has a bunch of recent immigrant Chechens, Pakistanis or Persians? Basically High T (but still white) Asians?

    I kind of recall that Blacks have a better reputation than Pakistanis in England, but this may be not borne out by data.

  46. The Justice Department’s report includes a section titled “Witnesses Whose Accounts Do Not Support a Prosecution Due to Materially Inconsistent Prior Statements or Inconsistencies with the Physical and Forensic Evidence”.

    The section lists 24 such witnesses. They include the following witnesses who eventually admitted that essential parts or all of their statements were false.

    Witness 119 is a 15-year-old black male. He initially told SLCPD [Saint Louis County Police Department] that he witnessed the shooting. However, he later recanted, telling federal agents and prosecutors that he lied to SLCPD detectives and just wanted to be involved in the investigation. ….. Witness 119 seemed to claim that Wilson shot Brown in the side from out of the window of the SUV, possibly while he was still driving. Wilson then chased after Brown and ultimately shot him in the head while Brown had his hands in the air.

    Witness 125 is a 23-year-old black female. She initially told law enforcement that she witnessed the shooting, but later recanted, claiming that she wanted to be involved from the outset and therefore lied to investigators. …. [She said] that Brown’s arms were by his waist, followed by his hands going up … while Brown was kneeling.

    Witness 131 is a 22-year-old black male …. who first told SLCPD detectives and then FBI agents that she saw Wilson shoot Brown while he had his hands in the air, and then admitted to county prosecutors that she lied to law enforcement and did not, in fact, see anything.

    Witness 122 is a 46-year old white male. … Witness 122 described Brown being shot in the back and “knew he had gotten hit.” … After learning about the autopsy [which showed no back wounds], he realized that Brown was not shot in the back and admittedly changed his account. …. Witness 122 described Brown as walking “dead on this feet, and then he just fell forward.” Later [Witness 122] admitted that [he] did not actually see Brown fall to the ground, because [his] view was obstructed by the corner of a building.

    Witness 130 is a 26-year-old white male. …. Contrary to his initial account, Witness 130 admitted that he did not actually see Brown fall to the ground because his view was obstructed by the corner of a building.

    Witness 132 is a 25-year-old black male. … Witness said that …. Brown “punched into the police car” because he was angry. In return, the police officer … reached down and shot Brown. Witness 132 explained that Brown tried to run, but again, the officer shot Brown right where he stood, about five feet from the SUV. Brown half-turned, fell to this knees, and put his hands up. The officer shot Brown eight or nine more times. This all occurred on the passenger side of the vehicle. …. Witness 132 refused to meet with federal prosecutors and told the FBI that the events of August 9, 2014, were “blurry,” he could not remember what happened, and he was starting a new chapter in his life.

    Witness 126 is a 53-year-old black female. …. Witness 126 saw Brown on his knees with his hands up, as Wilson was coming toward him and shooting at him. Brown then fell face down to the ground. Wilson went over to him and … “finished him off.” … [Later] Witness 126 admitted that she initially lied. She stated that she never saw Wilson inflict gunshot wounds on Brown.

    Witness 128 is a 23-year-old black male … Brown appeared to get hit by four shots in the middle of his back. Brown “slowed up”and turned around …. Brown “threw his hands up, clean in the air.” …. Brown said, “Don’t kill me” … Wilson then fired two shots at “point blank range” from within two feet. ….. causing him to fall face down to the ground. … Wilson then stood over Brown and shot into his back …. [Later] Witness 128 said he may have hallucinated but could not offer more of an explanation. He also admitted that much of what he initially said was an assumption.

    Witness 140 is a 45-year-old white female. ….. Witness 140 also admitted to federal prosecutors that …. she posted comments on websites and Facebook about the shooting. Her comments were blatantly profane and racist. … Witness 140 acknowledged that she suffers from bouts of mania because she does not take her medicine for bipolar disorder ….

    Witness 120 was a 19-year-old black male. ….. He went to the window and saw Brown on his knees with his hands up, situated about five feet from the police vehicle. Brown said, “Please don’t shoot me,” and Wilson fired a shot into Brown’s head at “point blank” range. [Later Witness 120] explained that although he did not see the shots …. he based most of his recanted account on what people “in the community told” him.

    (The DOJ’s numerical designations of the witnesses differs from the grand jury’s designations.)

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/04/us/doj-report-on-shooting-of-michael-brown.html?_r=0
    beginning on page 44

  47. Minot, ND arrest rate per 1000 residents:

    Black: 416.9
    Non-Black: 97.6

  48. @rustbeltreader
    "Putin’s close friend and ally, the Head of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Kadyrov posted a message on his Instagram page with over 848,000 followers, attributing the following quote to Edward Snowden: “They started to eliminate those, whom they have fed for many years. They don’t need those who couldn’t accomplish their plans and those who know their secrets. State Department won’t stop with Nemtsov, they will go further.” Kadyrov did not provide the source of this preposterous statement. Snowden did not post or otherwise disseminate any such allegations through any of his usual means of public communication. On its face, the quote appears to be completely fabricated."
    http://www.examiner.com/article/russia-s-latest-propaganda-fabrications-involve-adolf-hitler-edward-snowden

    Freeze! Everybody is under arrest! Mike Royko wrote one column a day for decades and never wrote a bad piece. Now? Non-stop non-sense 24/7, quotes that aren't quotes, every tin-pan dictator or friend of a dictator with a million and one followers, this one accuses that one, they're going to invade this or that, Reagan Era cranks...blah blah blah. Snowden techno nuts offering by the hour conspiracies. Everybody is guilty and nobody is secure. State Department is launching cyber jihad. The political hacks are all now computer hacks. Buddy can you send a dime? Zombies are on the march. It's March. It's cold! Shovel more snow ;-(
    This makes the ice bucket challenge look like childs play. Kids won't clear walks for a quick buck. Too busy not delivering papers and playing computer games.

    Replies: @Busby, @CK, @Cloudbuster

    Royko, what a treasure. I loved his continuous attacks on the towing company. Was it Lincoln? Where the owner accused Royko of making his dog so despondent, the dog died.

  49. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    @donut

    Walking in the the street is a “black thing” as is just stepping out into traffic whenever the mood strikes .

    I live near a city which is 35-percent black. I rarely venture in, but had some business there a few weeks ago. The "blacks walking out into traffic" thing was so striking that I had to tell my wife about it when I got home. There's an insolence about it, a "Go ahead, make my day!" attitude. Perhaps a large settlement is something a lot of jaywalkers aspire to. It's not only the young guys and the homeless guys, either. An old black lady, walking with a cane, started out across the crosswalk with the crossing sign indicating six seconds until the light change, by which time she was only a third of the way across, making us all wait through the light. Maybe she was cognitively unable to do the math required to make the judgment aboput whether or not to cross.

    Replies: @unit472, @anonymous, @The Plutonium Kid

    Perhaps a large settlement is something a lot of jaywalkers aspire to. It’s not only the young guys and the homeless guys, either

    I’ve heard blacks talking about how they used to lurch in front of oncoming cars that looked like the owner would likely have good insurance, such as a Mercedes, then agilely bounce off it with their hands claiming to have gotten hit and filing suit. Always looking to win the ghetto lottery.
    Anything that comes out of Holder’s DOJ is bound to be worthless. The real deal is that blacks are under-arrested because they get away with much more. Career criminals commit many crimes before getting caught for one; think of all the unsolved homicides in large cities, for example. Probably half the male black population would be in prison right now were everything they’d done in the past to be made known. Holder has the typical black mentality of self-infatuation and being incapable of seeing things from the viewpoint of others, a trait that never evolved amongst that group.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @anonymous

    The real deal is that blacks are under-arrested because they get away with much more.

    Yes, liberals always complain that there are too many blacks are in prison, but if there were "too many" incarcerated, the crime rates in black neighborhoods would be low, wouldn't they? As long as the crime rate in black neighborhoods is higher than it is in white neighborhoods, obviously too few blacks are in prison.

    Holder has the typical black mentality of self-infatuation and being incapable of seeing things from the viewpoint of others

    I don't know, I think he just likes jerking us around, knowing he can do it with impunity. What fun is wearing the jackboot if you can't grind it into your opponent's face? When he told Americans we were cowards because we're afraid of an honest discussion of race, I saw a reprise of Mao's "let a hundred flowers blossom"trap to flush out dissidents.

  50. Slightly off-topic. Any pointers to the following?

    (1) Analyses of crime by and against blacks as a function of demographics, geography, and history.

    (2) Consequences of reducing the black inmate population by X % where X is 10, 20, 30 etc.

    (3) Measures taken by potential victims to avoid being victims. What would happen to the crime rate if law-abiding residents of neighborhood A started behaving like residents of neighborhood B? The crime potential of a neighborhood is not just about the crime that happens but also that doesn’t.

  51. The blacks’ 93% share of arrests look bad until you remember that they’re 67% of Ferguson’s population. When you look at rates per capita, though, that only means that blacks are about 7x more likely to get arrested than whites. That tracks well with absolutely everything we know about crime rates of blacks v. whites across the country.

    In addition, Ferguson’s Hispanic population is very small compared to the national average – just 1.2% – so there aren’t a whole lot of Hispanics to get rolled into the “white” arrest rates and bring the ratio closer to parity. Ferguson’s white population is also probably older, too – young whites with families stay away from such towns. It’s the older whites w/o kids who hang around.

  52. Stanley, Wisconsin and Monroe, Washington are two interesting cases.

  53. @Steve Sailer
    The chorus chord progression (2:01) from this 2009 song is pretty much "Money" by Pink Floyd.

    It's tough being a band these days because it's all been done before.

    In fact, wasn't "It's All Been Done Before" a hit in the previous millenium?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs3xXlXSOKk

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Wade

    Thanks for the Barenaked Ladies reference. They’re my favorite band from the 90’s. They’re still making really good music. I really hate it that Steven Page quit!

  54. After reading the summary of the Ferguson report, I think a number of things are true.

    Of course it’s true that blacks commit more crimes than whites and are going to be arrested more. Every time I see a study (and they come out often in different parts of the country) where this is cited as a sign of racism I think to myself how people are trained not to think certain obvious things.

    It’s also pretty clear that the cops are harassing black people at a high rate (at least if the examples cited in the article are typical), stopping and handcuffing them for no good reason or for “attitude” crimes.

    The court system with its high cascading fines for minor offenses is also an abomination.

    I thought and interesting statistic in the report as reported by the NYT is that even though blacks are stopped more often, whites are more likely to be found with “contraband” when stopped. One has to assume that a higher percentage of blacks than whites in Ferguson are actually carrying “contraband”. Given that they are finding a higher percentage of whites with contraband, that suggests that the cops are being far more selective in stopping whites, with a higher percentage of the stops of whites actually being people engaged in criminal activity.

  55. @anonymous
    @Harry Baldwin


    Perhaps a large settlement is something a lot of jaywalkers aspire to. It’s not only the young guys and the homeless guys, either
     
    I've heard blacks talking about how they used to lurch in front of oncoming cars that looked like the owner would likely have good insurance, such as a Mercedes, then agilely bounce off it with their hands claiming to have gotten hit and filing suit. Always looking to win the ghetto lottery.
    Anything that comes out of Holder's DOJ is bound to be worthless. The real deal is that blacks are under-arrested because they get away with much more. Career criminals commit many crimes before getting caught for one; think of all the unsolved homicides in large cities, for example. Probably half the male black population would be in prison right now were everything they'd done in the past to be made known. Holder has the typical black mentality of self-infatuation and being incapable of seeing things from the viewpoint of others, a trait that never evolved amongst that group.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    The real deal is that blacks are under-arrested because they get away with much more.

    Yes, liberals always complain that there are too many blacks are in prison, but if there were “too many” incarcerated, the crime rates in black neighborhoods would be low, wouldn’t they? As long as the crime rate in black neighborhoods is higher than it is in white neighborhoods, obviously too few blacks are in prison.

    Holder has the typical black mentality of self-infatuation and being incapable of seeing things from the viewpoint of others

    I don’t know, I think he just likes jerking us around, knowing he can do it with impunity. What fun is wearing the jackboot if you can’t grind it into your opponent’s face? When he told Americans we were cowards because we’re afraid of an honest discussion of race, I saw a reprise of Mao’s “let a hundred flowers blossom”trap to flush out dissidents.

  56. @JVO
    I don't think you'll find it but try Anchorage, AK.

    Replies: @David

    Can’t find Anchorage but for whole state, 4% black, 21%,12%,12% and 13% back perp for robbery, rape, murder, and aggravated assault, respectively. I’ve always felt that the black people in Alaska were very integrated and friendly. But the ones I met are pilots and outdoors men.

  57. @George
    Mr Google said:

    10 of the Richest Black Communities in America
    http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/01/03/10-richest-black-communities-america/

    Maryland, has the most for some reason.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @donut, @dcite

    Because it has bedroom communities for federal workers.

    • Replies: @george
    @Dave Pinsen

    "Because it has bedroom communities for federal workers."

    OK, but what is the crime rate? What they do for a living is not the point. Do the white and black bedroom communities for federal workers have similar crime stats?

  58. @George
    Mr Google said:

    10 of the Richest Black Communities in America
    http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/01/03/10-richest-black-communities-america/

    Maryland, has the most for some reason.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @donut, @dcite

    PG county , close to Wash. D. C. state and federal job programs .

    # Employer # of Employees
    1 University System of Maryland 16,014
    2 Joint Base Andrews 8,057
    3 Prince George’s County 7,052
    4 Internal Revenue Service 5,539
    5 United States Census Bureau 4,287
    6 Goddard Space Flight Center 3,171
    7 Henry A. Wallace Beltsville Agricultural Research Center 1,850
    8 National Maritime Intelligence Center 1,724
    9 Prince George’s Community College 1,700
    10 NOAA 1,350

  59. Just wanted to second (or fourth, or fifth?) the motion regarding blacks walking in/into traffic.

    It’s seems to be a combination of pride and hoping for a personal injury claim.

    A variant of this is the “lone black guy walking along by himself loudly singing/raping/preaching.”

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Patrick in SC

    Just saw an accident caused, I think, by a driver trying to avoid jay walkers https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/573603549680168961

    Think those jaywalkers may have been hispanic though.

  60. RJA says:
    @SFG
    @Steve Sailer

    I have to say, while I totally understand that musical tastes don't have to track with political views, it's kind of funny to see a right-wing blogger being a fan of hardcore lefty bands like the Clash and Pink Floyd.

    Not that I'm criticizing--you've basically turned me on to the Clash at this point. ;)

    Replies: @RJA

    It’s the Marxists that want to politicize everything. Why can’t we let music be music?

    For example there’s a Palestinian electronic producer whose music I really enjoy, though I completely disagree with his annoying ‘Free Palestine’ digressions. Am I not allowed to like this? Am I not allowed to like traditional Arabic music in general? What about Wagner?

    Perhaps they are right and everything is indeed political… I don’t know.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @RJA

    I actually don't have a problem with that, I just find it kind of funny.

    Everything can be viewed as political--by walking to my job rather than taking the bus, I am reducing my carbon footprint; by going to the bathroom, I am polluting the environment when I flush the toilet; and so on. It is a bit silly.

  61. Holder and other blacks might want to be careful about what they wish for. It is no secret that much of what passes for the ‘black middle class’ is a derivative of black social pathologies. Since blacks have much higher crime rates this creates an attendant need for more law enforcement, prosecutors, judges, prison guards, parole and probation officers and , guess what, it is just these sort of positions that middle class blacks disproportionately hold. The same can be said of public schools where poor black academic performance and behavior create a need for the hiring of more black public sector employees to deal with the problem.

    Were Holder to be successful in eliminating ‘disparate impact’ the effect on black middle class employment would be devastating . Even worse, by refraining from enforcing laws and rules of conduct that create ‘disparate impact’ the quality of life in black communities would be profoundly negative and what little hope people in these communities have of a better life extinguished.

    It is quite likely that surveillance technology and data base mining are going to make many law enforcement jobs disappear in coming years and marijuana and perhaps other drug legalization/liberalization remove a major part of the underclass economy as well so Holder and others best think their complaints through as blacks are already the most economically marginal population in the United States.

  62. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Maybe white cops in Ferguson do pick on blacks more often.

    But don’t the media pick more on white ‘villains’? They even make up stuff like Haven Monahan(who might be the one who also killed Nicole Simpson btw).

    And doesn’t the US pick more on Middle Eastern and Russian targets? What was that WMD stuff all about?

    And when it comes to ‘antisemitism’, the usual narrative blames ‘Europe’ than immigrant populations in Europe.

    And speaking of imbalances… it’s true that there are ‘too many white cops’ in very black Ferguson, but in a nation that is 2% Jewish, there sure are lots of Jews working in top echelons of federal government. If white cops and officials cannot be trusted to treat black majority fairly, why should we believe that Jewish and homo elites can treat gentile/straight majorities fairly? Indeed, Ferguson isn’t being treated fairly by the media precisely because the media are overwhelmingly Liberal and/or Jewish. In that case, pot calling the kettle black.

    Indeed, what’s been happening to flower shops and cake shops that won’t cater to ‘gay weddings’?

    NYT doesn’t have to take ad offer from any business or organization, but flower shops and cake shops must provide stuff for ‘gay weddings’?

  63. Certain coastal areas of New England have a lot of Cape Verdeans and other immigrants from former Portuguese African colonies who don’t necessarily self-identify as “black”. If you got enough of them folded under the “white” umbrella for crime statistics, it might move the needle a bit, but I don’t think they live at sufficient density in any one municipality to decisively push the white rate over the black rate. Besides, I’d imagine that younger Cape Verdeans nowadays have enough sense to jump on the affirmative-action gravy train by reasserting the “black” identity that grandpa tries to downplay.

  64. Two suggestions:

    1) A heavily “white” Hispanic town.

    2) A rural town with a handful of black families, yet a large white biker gang presence.

    In either case, there would be a smaller sample size of blacks, and thus a greater likelihood of those blacks being outliers compared to the rest of the national black population.

  65. CK says:
    @rustbeltreader
    "Putin’s close friend and ally, the Head of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Kadyrov posted a message on his Instagram page with over 848,000 followers, attributing the following quote to Edward Snowden: “They started to eliminate those, whom they have fed for many years. They don’t need those who couldn’t accomplish their plans and those who know their secrets. State Department won’t stop with Nemtsov, they will go further.” Kadyrov did not provide the source of this preposterous statement. Snowden did not post or otherwise disseminate any such allegations through any of his usual means of public communication. On its face, the quote appears to be completely fabricated."
    http://www.examiner.com/article/russia-s-latest-propaganda-fabrications-involve-adolf-hitler-edward-snowden

    Freeze! Everybody is under arrest! Mike Royko wrote one column a day for decades and never wrote a bad piece. Now? Non-stop non-sense 24/7, quotes that aren't quotes, every tin-pan dictator or friend of a dictator with a million and one followers, this one accuses that one, they're going to invade this or that, Reagan Era cranks...blah blah blah. Snowden techno nuts offering by the hour conspiracies. Everybody is guilty and nobody is secure. State Department is launching cyber jihad. The political hacks are all now computer hacks. Buddy can you send a dime? Zombies are on the march. It's March. It's cold! Shovel more snow ;-(
    This makes the ice bucket challenge look like childs play. Kids won't clear walks for a quick buck. Too busy not delivering papers and playing computer games.

    Replies: @Busby, @CK, @Cloudbuster

    What is so preposterous about that statement?
    As a statement in re The Interests of the State, it is old news. The only difference is that a specific person is named instead of a generality being stated.
    When an asset has outlived its profitability, the asset is disposed of. Retirement, auction, replacement, execution … the methods are varied the result is the same. We should be seeing a “new name” as the “up and coming”/ replacement leader of the 5% opposition in Russia Real Soon Now.
    That Snowden might not have said those exact words in that exact order is irrelevant. Too much truthiness to be avoided so … Look A Squirrel.

  66. @Steve Sailer
    @donut

    "How about any town with a correctional facility"

    That's clever.

    Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith

    How about any town with a correctional facility , the prison pop. is majority black and most towns with prisons are maj. white yet the prisoners are counted as residents of the town

    There may be an exception or two, but correctional institutions are state or federal properties, and do not zone to the serving town or city, plus census and demographics are separate by regulation. This is typical for reasons of tax revenue allocation — states don’t credit municipalities with the population in the local prison.

  67. The walking down the middle of the street thing seems to be a problem in some places but not others. I read an article about a middle class black inner ring suburb of Detroit where the old residents are being driven crazy by new arrivals from Detroit walking in the middle of the street. But I don’t recall that in Chicago (although you’d have to be suicidal to walk in the street in Chicago).

    Maybe there’s a niche for REALLY LOUD horns (or taser bumpers) to be exploited by an entrepreneur? ‘Course it takes a modicum of spine to lay on the horn the entire time diversity is jaywalking in your way, and white people are pussies…

    I’m just glad I don’t live in a dense urban area anymore. Because I’d have gotten into trouble by now. I don’t have it in me to put up with people’s bullshit anymore, and this walking while black thing definitely falls into that category.

    It’s a weird power thing, as if looking out for their own safety is some sign of weakness.

    It’s a power thing, but more about making you stop and wait (think black DMV lady on a power trip). They’re too stupid to consider that you might not see them. I’m reminded of all the times blacks are shocked that gov’t (whites) didn’t swoop in and save them; the idea that gov’t (whites) might not be all-powerful didn’t occur to them.

  68. Apropos of nothing, but southerners are very timid with their horns. Somebody’s sleeping at the wheel ahead of me when the light turns green, they get about a second and then they get the horn until they move. Some asshole is blocking heavy traffic because he’s going left across traffic and is too stupid to turn right, then turn left later at a better spot, he gets the horn until he’s out of my way. Some asshole is blocking my lane because he’s stopped and trying to merge into another lane, he gets the horn until he’s out of my way. Basically, any time someone is stopping traffic because he’s too much of an asshole to go a minute and a half out of his way. I don’t mind it so much when I’m the only one being blocked, but when someone is blocking heavy traffic because he’s a stupid, selfish asshole, it just drives me nuts.

  69. @rustbeltreader
    "Putin’s close friend and ally, the Head of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Kadyrov posted a message on his Instagram page with over 848,000 followers, attributing the following quote to Edward Snowden: “They started to eliminate those, whom they have fed for many years. They don’t need those who couldn’t accomplish their plans and those who know their secrets. State Department won’t stop with Nemtsov, they will go further.” Kadyrov did not provide the source of this preposterous statement. Snowden did not post or otherwise disseminate any such allegations through any of his usual means of public communication. On its face, the quote appears to be completely fabricated."
    http://www.examiner.com/article/russia-s-latest-propaganda-fabrications-involve-adolf-hitler-edward-snowden

    Freeze! Everybody is under arrest! Mike Royko wrote one column a day for decades and never wrote a bad piece. Now? Non-stop non-sense 24/7, quotes that aren't quotes, every tin-pan dictator or friend of a dictator with a million and one followers, this one accuses that one, they're going to invade this or that, Reagan Era cranks...blah blah blah. Snowden techno nuts offering by the hour conspiracies. Everybody is guilty and nobody is secure. State Department is launching cyber jihad. The political hacks are all now computer hacks. Buddy can you send a dime? Zombies are on the march. It's March. It's cold! Shovel more snow ;-(
    This makes the ice bucket challenge look like childs play. Kids won't clear walks for a quick buck. Too busy not delivering papers and playing computer games.

    Replies: @Busby, @CK, @Cloudbuster

    Mike Royko wrote one column a day for decades and never wrote a bad piece.</I.

    Hey, Royko thought you shouldn't put ketchup on a hot dog and he was just wrong, and I'll never back down on that! 😉

  70. In the first days following the Ferguson incident, a false story was told to the mass media by three African-Americans who were related to each other socially.

    1) Dorian Johnson, the man who was walking with Michael Brown, had socialized frequently with Piaget Crenshaw during the previous month.

    2) Piaget Crenshaw, who lived in an apartment overlooking the scene, was an employee of Tiffany Mitchell.

    3) Tiffany Mitchell, who approached the scene in her car as it was happening, was introduced to Johnson by Crenshaw right after the incident.

    These three told a mutually-confirming story in which Brown was shot in the back, turned around and raised his hands to surrender, stood still and then was shot dead. They — only these three “eyewitnesses” — told their story repeatedly in televised interviews.

    None of the three, however, saw Wilson shoot Brown. We know this because we know that Brown was not shot in the back and because we know that Brown charged 17 yards at Wilson.

    While Wilson was shooting Brown ….

    * Johnson was hiding down in the front of the passenger seat a Monte Carlo car that was parked along the street.

    * Crenshaw was watching Johnson hide in the Monte Carlo.

    * Mitchell was parking her car in a nearby parking lot.

    For details about Johnson hiding in the car, see my article at
    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/12/04/dorian/

    The Justice Department’s report about the Ferguson incident dismissed all three of those witnesses as unreliable.

    The report’s conclusion about Dorian Johnson:

    Witness 101 [Johnson] has a misdemeanor conviction for a crime of dishonesty likely admissible in federal court as impeachment evidence. …. Material parts of Witness 101’s account are inconsistent with the physical and forensic evidence, internally inconsistent from one part of his account to the next, and inconsistent with other credible witness accounts that are corroborated by physical evidence.

    The report’s conclusion about Piaget Crenshaw:

    When federal prosecutors and agents challenged the inconsistencies of her accounts, Witness 188 [Crenshaw] conceded that she likely assumed facts that she did not witness herself based on talking with other residents in the Canfield Green complex and watching the news, but was not specific about which facts. ….

    Witness 118’s accounts are riddled with internal inconsistencies, inconsistencies with the physical and forensic evidence, and inconsistencies with credible witness accounts.

    Her attention was admittedly diverted away from the shooting when she watched Witness 101 (Dorian Johnson) ducking for cover and she acknowledged that her account was also based on assumption and media coverage.

    Accordingly, after a thorough review of the evidence, federal prosecutors determined the various versions of this witness’s account to lack credibility …

    The report’s conclusion about Tiffany Mitchell:

    Although Witness 127’s [Mitchell’s] statements are materially consistent with each other, significant portions are contrary to the forensic and physical evidence and inconsistent with credible witness accounts. Witness 127 was unable to give reasonable explanations as to why the physical evidence might be inconsistent with what she remembers, and therefore prosecutors were left to conclude that she inaccurately perceived material portions of the shootings either because of the stress of the incidents or because she was distracted.

    Accordingly, after a thorough review of the evidence, federal prosecutors determined material portions of this witness’s accounts not reliable ….

  71. @Steve Sailer
    @Ed

    The walking down the middle of the street thing seems to be a problem in some places but not others. I read an article about a middle class black inner ring suburb of Detroit where the old residents are being driven crazy by new arrivals from Detroit walking in the middle of the street. But I don't recall that in Chicago (although you'd have to be suicidal to walk in the street in Chicago).

    That's also a problem in the San Fernando Valley suburb where I live, although the divide is regional rather than racial. In the quarter square mile tract where I live, the southern three blocks have sidewalks but the northern three blocks don't have sidewalks. So when the Northsiders walk their dogs, they walk right down the middle of the street. And they keep walking down the middle of the street when they come down to our half of the tract ... where there are sidewalks. It drives my wife crazy when she's driving that Northsiders are still walking their Labradors down the middle of the street even though the Southside has sidewalks for them to walk on.

    Replies: @donut, @Hipster, @The Z Blog, @C. Van Carter, @TB

  72. Steve,

    Thanks for the link to “It’s All Been Done”. Great song. I haven’t heard it in a long time, and it brightened my day. I’d forgotten how good a song it is. In fact, I’m not sure I’ve ever realized how good it is!

  73. @donut
    @Steve Sailer

    Walking in the the street is a "black thing" as is just stepping out into traffic whenever the mood strikes . Before I found a way around them I used to drive down Greenmount Ave. to get to work , you had to constantly be on the lookout for the morons to step off the curb and into traffic to cross the street . Once as I was driving that way a dog stepped off the curb to cross , he looked both ways , saw all the traffic and stepped back up onto the sidewalk . So the smartest creature in that 100% black part of town was a dog.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Art Deco, @peterike, @keypusher, @Marc

    The NYC equivalent on the subway is standing in the car with your back to the open door, blocking as much of the door as possible. Double points if it’s rush hour. It’s not only black men who do it, but they’ve got to be 90% of the offenders. It’s hard to imagine that it’s not deliberate.

    See also http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=shaft+opening+credits&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=3568CFFD28D2F320ECD93568CFFD28D2F320ECD9. Shaft was a walking quality-of-life violation.

  74. Priss Factor [AKA "K. Arujo"] says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Things would be so much easier if white men didn't exist

    Replies: @Priss Factor

    “Things would be so much easier if white men didn’t exist”

    White folks can politically choose to not exist by ending the GOP.
    And then you will see the house of cards fall.

    It’s because the GOP exists that there’s the perception of this Great Evil White Power.

    End it, and all eyes are fixed on Democratic power dominated by bagels and fruits.

    While the Liberal elites feign that what they fear MOST is the evil white right, what they really fear most is leftism and tide of color.
    After all, most white cons and rightists are essentially whores of power. The hope of the likes of Jared Taylor is for rich whites and Jews to side with conservatism. Most rightists don’t want to attack the rich. They don’t want to attack power, privilege, and etc. Their only beef is that the rich, the powerful, and privileged tend to be ‘leftist’, politically correct, and ‘anti-white’. They don’t have problems with power, privilege, and inequality itself. They dream that the billionaire oligarchs and elites will be on the side of conservatives and rightists.

    In contrast, the left(and I mean the REAL LEFT than the faux fruity ‘left’) has problems with inequality of power, wealth, privilege, and etc. And non-whites really resent white ‘power and privilege’.
    So, the rich and privileged Liberals have more to fear from the Left than from the Right.
    The Liberal elites control the Left by pretending that they are working so hard to hold back the ‘evil racist’ Right for the benefit of the Left and people of color. As long as the GOP exists, the rich and powerful Liberal elites can fool the Left and non-whites with this Narrative.
    “If not for us liberal elites, GOP racists will take over and bring back slavery and all women will be raped!!!!”

    But suppose the GOP is over. There is no more ‘eeeeeevil white power structure’.
    The Liberal elites will rule all. And then, they will have to justify their power and privilege to the masses of people(who are not rich) and the rising tide of color. Without the GOP, it will be much tougher for the Lib elites to scapegoat the ‘white rightist evil’.

    And since the rich white and Jewish libs dumped on us, we will not come to their rescue.
    If anything, we will feign faux-leftism and pretend to side with the lower classes and tide of color to bring down the Liberal elite system of power.

    This gambit is the only move left for the Right.

  75. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Not that it makes a difference, but I don’t believe crimes on college/university campuses are included in the DOJ stats unless policing is handled by the local PD. Most colleges where serious crimes might occur have their own police departments and these police departments do not share arrest information. So, when the U.S. Govt conducts a background check on someone they need to go to the campus police and request a search (and under federal law the local/college PD must comply). If someone is arrested for drunk and disorderly by Cornell University PD, this arrest will not show up in a NY state-wide law check or NCIC database. If the arrest is by Ithaca PD right off of campus it shows up on all state and federal databases.

  76. Imagine how well the self-driving cars are going to work in black areas, with jaywalking, walking down the street, walking obliviously into traffic, etc. Google would do better taking their development money and buying scratch-offs….

  77. @Hapalong Cassidy
    I don't know about walking in the middle of the street, but stepping out into traffic and jaywalking seems to be a characteristic of recent Hispamic arrivals. Along heavily Hispanic Buford Highway in Atlanta Metro, traffic islands and signaled crosswalks have had to be installed due to the ridiculously high rate of pedestrian collisions.

    Replies: @Kyle McKenna

    I don’t know about walking in the middle of the street, but stepping out into traffic and jaywalking seems to be a characteristic of recent Hispamic arrivals.

    Interesting. Where I live, sauntering into traffic is almost exclusively black. Part of “Black Privilege” as noted above.

    What the hispanics do without fail is stop their vehicles in the driving lanes to get out and go into a shop, visit with friends, etc. On four-lane roadways this isn’t such a hassle but two-lane streets become impassible anywhere near the barrio. IDK, maybe that’s part of the plan.

  78. @peterike
    @donut


    Walking in the the street is a “black thing” as is just stepping out into traffic whenever the mood strikes .

     

    Black privilege.

    Replies: @Big Bill

    Livin’ large. Takin’ up space. Dancin’ in the streets.

  79. You guys wonder why blacks walk in front of traffic when in the same breath you talk about how cautious you are.

    Just keep driving.

  80. I couldn’t find anything specifically about Portland, but unless its arrest rates are radically different from the rest of the state, they should be about as racist as Ferguson.

    http://www.oregon.gov/CJC/docs/oregon_arrest_rates_by_race_1997_2008.pdf

    Look like the other Portland, which is a mere 83.6% white (non-Hispanic white that isZ) is in the doghouse too.

    http://bangordailynews.com/2014/09/29/news/portland/blacks-in-portland-arrested-at-disproportionate-rate-police-chief-admits/

  81. @Harry Baldwin
    @donut

    Walking in the the street is a “black thing” as is just stepping out into traffic whenever the mood strikes .

    I live near a city which is 35-percent black. I rarely venture in, but had some business there a few weeks ago. The "blacks walking out into traffic" thing was so striking that I had to tell my wife about it when I got home. There's an insolence about it, a "Go ahead, make my day!" attitude. Perhaps a large settlement is something a lot of jaywalkers aspire to. It's not only the young guys and the homeless guys, either. An old black lady, walking with a cane, started out across the crosswalk with the crossing sign indicating six seconds until the light change, by which time she was only a third of the way across, making us all wait through the light. Maybe she was cognitively unable to do the math required to make the judgment aboput whether or not to cross.

    Replies: @unit472, @anonymous, @The Plutonium Kid

    Many blacks do this to show their contempt for whites.

  82. I kind of recall that Blacks have a better reputation than Pakistanis in England, but this may be not borne out by data.

    Blacks in the UK tend not to beat up girls who wear jeans and blow up railways. That by itself puts them a notch above the Pakis.

  83. @joeyjoejoe
    Two army bases.

    Fort Leavenworth. The 'graduate school' of the army, it is basically a base with officer education and doctrine writing. Few enlisted soldiers (and most of them are MP's).

    Unfortunately, it also has the federal penitentiary (and several other state/local prisons), with the associated dregs, so I'd guess the racial imbalance in behavior is at least as prevalent as elsewhere.
    So Fort Leavenworth is out.

    Carlisle Pennsylvania. Home of the Army War college. Without knowing the town, I wouldn't be surprised if virtually all the African Americans in the area are high ranking officers and NCOs associated with the college itself. It may even be that whites are arrested more frequently than blacks. It would be a small, preposterously artificial environment, though.

    joey

    (West Point, New York?)

    Replies: @drunkenrabbit

    Carlisle also has Dickinson college, which I’m sure would make the balance even more favorable. But it still doesn’t seem to work. Carlisle is 89% white and still has a significantly higher crime rate than nearby Mechanicsburg, which is 97% white.

  84. SFG says:
    @RJA
    @SFG

    It's the Marxists that want to politicize everything. Why can't we let music be music?

    For example there's a Palestinian electronic producer whose music I really enjoy, though I completely disagree with his annoying 'Free Palestine' digressions. Am I not allowed to like this? Am I not allowed to like traditional Arabic music in general? What about Wagner?

    Perhaps they are right and everything is indeed political... I don't know.

    Replies: @SFG

    I actually don’t have a problem with that, I just find it kind of funny.

    Everything can be viewed as political–by walking to my job rather than taking the bus, I am reducing my carbon footprint; by going to the bathroom, I am polluting the environment when I flush the toilet; and so on. It is a bit silly.

  85. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Steve — you are seeing the world through the lens of an wherever you happen to be living, I guess.

    I think in my sleepy New England town there are only a couple of black families, maybe two. They are good neighbors. Surely whites are arrested more often than blacks here!

    On the other hand, I have heard that the feds are trying to force low-income housing projects on us to create more racial diversity…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    "On the other hand, I have heard that the feds are trying to force low-income housing projects on us to create more racial diversity…"

    I've heard that, too. The federal government is intruding more and more into all aspects of life.

  86. @Patrick in SC
    Just wanted to second (or fourth, or fifth?) the motion regarding blacks walking in/into traffic.

    It's seems to be a combination of pride and hoping for a personal injury claim.

    A variant of this is the "lone black guy walking along by himself loudly singing/raping/preaching."

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    Just saw an accident caused, I think, by a driver trying to avoid jay walkers https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/573603549680168961

    Think those jaywalkers may have been hispanic though.

  87. https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153134538173469

    Is this a hoax?

    “What revolves around the Earth?”

  88. @John C
    How about an Ivy League town with a relatively small African-Aamerican population not associated with the university? Cambridge (which has MIT as well as Harvard) would qualify, but New Haven (Yale) would not. Princeton, NJ, but not Philadelphia, home to the U of Pennsylvania. Ithaca (Cornell) but not Providence (Brown) and certainly not New York (Columbia).

    Replies: @mw, @Buzz Mohawk, @Polymath, @Eternal Vigilance

    As I’ve said here before, one of the handful of black guys in my college town raped my girlfriend. It was a very white, affluent, low crime college town with a famously high quality of life. One of the few black people I ever saw there raped my girlfriend.

    Just give up. Blacks commit an overwhelmingly disproportionate number of the crimes in America, because they are different. That’s all. Because they are different.

    Eric Holder, Barry Obama, Al Sharpton and all the rest of the black community organizers are just Marxist a**holes who will twist things any way they can to shift the blame to whitey and divide the populace to their advantage.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Buzz Mohawk

    "As I’ve said here before, one of the handful of black guys in my college town raped my girlfriend. It was a very white, affluent, low crime college town with a famously high quality of life. One of the few black people I ever saw there raped my girlfriend."

    That's awful. I'm so sorry for your girlfriend.

  89. In Houston, whole families of Mexicans cross the middle of the street, busy streets, without a care whether it’s rush hour or not. They are literally too lazy to go to the nearest crosswalk. These are sometimes people pushing strollers or with infants in their arms.

  90. If statistics are the sole criteria, then both the Justice Department and the New York Times discriminate against blacks.
    The Justice Department should investigate itself and Eric Holder. The New York Times should write long articles explaining how awful it is.

  91. “Ed says:

    The only category that I feel there is legitimate complaint is jaywalking. You could fine most people if you tried for jaywalking. So the fact that 93% of those arrested for jaywalking are black is suspicious. ”

    Not necessarily. Not all acts of jaywalking are equal. Crossing a residential street in the middle of the block after looking both ways is not the same as darting across a six-lane street with cars coming both ways. I have seen far more blacks jaywalk in a way that was dangerous to them and to others than whites.

  92. The least violent Blacks in America are Indians, if by Black we broadened it so include anybody who has very dark skin even if they are not of Sub Saharan African descent.

  93. Can any municipality in America produce a graph where blacks don’t get in trouble with the law more than whites?

    Try an Air Force Base town with a lot of Central American gangsters, who would count as white in the crime statistics.

  94. Interesting excerpt from a book on Social Media Justice Warriors. A couple brogrammers, bored out of their skulls at a conference, make some dumb sub-Beavis puns while listening to a presentation. Part of the very limited humor of the jokes is that they’re so lame and Beavis. A SJW in front of them overhears the joke, turns around and takes a picture, tweets it, has them ejected from the conference, and they wind up getting fired.

    The offended, Adria Richards, was in turn set upon by the hive of scum and villany that is 4chan /b/ and fired herself.

    The desperation of Richards to adopt victim status is really quite remarkable. The psychology of the 4chan people is more straightforward: they’re just jerks.

    http://www.esquire.co.uk/culture/books/7933/exclusive-extract-from-jon-ronson-book-so-youve-been-publicly-shamed/

    “Which was why, she said, she “slowly stood up, rotated from my hips, and took three photos.” She tweeted one, “with a very brief summary of what they said. Then I sent another tweet describing my location. Right? And then the third tweet was the [conference’s] code of conduct.”

    “You talked about danger,” I said. “What were you imagining might…?”

    “Have you ever heard that thing, men are afraid that women will laugh at them and women are afraid that men will kill them?” she said.

    I told Adria that people might consider that an overblown thing to say. She had, after all, been in the middle of a tech conference with 800 bystanders.

    “Sure,” Adria replied. “And those people would probably be white and they would probably be male.””

    ““Maybe it was [Hank] who started all of this,” Adria told me in the cafe at San Francisco Airport. “No one would have known he got fired until he complained. Maybe he’s to blame for complaining that he got fired. Maybe he secretly seeded the hate groups. Right?”

    I was so taken aback by this suggestion I didn’t say anything in defence of Hank at the time. But later I felt bad that I hadn’t stuck up for him. So I emailed her. I told her what he had told me – how he’d refused to engage with any of the bloggers or trolls who sent him messages of support. I added that I felt Hank was within his rights to post the message on Hacker News revealing he’d been fired.

    Adria replied that she was happy to hear that Hank “wasn’t active in driving their interests to mount the raid attack”, but she held him responsible for it anyway. It was “his own actions that resulted in his own firing, yet he framed it in a way to blame me… If I had a spouse and two kids to support I certainly would not be telling ‘jokes’ like he was doing at a conference. Oh but wait, I have compassion, empathy, morals and ethics to guide my daily life choices. I often wonder how people like Hank make it through life seemingly unaware of how ‘the other’ lives in the same world he does but with countless less opportunities.”

  95. If you wish to know why blacks walk out into traffic, Google “Steve Utash.”

  96. @Dave Pinsen
    @George

    Because it has bedroom communities for federal workers.

    Replies: @george

    “Because it has bedroom communities for federal workers.”

    OK, but what is the crime rate? What they do for a living is not the point. Do the white and black bedroom communities for federal workers have similar crime stats?

  97. @Anonymous
    Steve -- you are seeing the world through the lens of an wherever you happen to be living, I guess.

    I think in my sleepy New England town there are only a couple of black families, maybe two. They are good neighbors. Surely whites are arrested more often than blacks here!

    On the other hand, I have heard that the feds are trying to force low-income housing projects on us to create more racial diversity...

    Replies: @Anonymous

    “On the other hand, I have heard that the feds are trying to force low-income housing projects on us to create more racial diversity…”

    I’ve heard that, too. The federal government is intruding more and more into all aspects of life.

  98. On the other hand, have you ever heard of a community or country where the Chinese dont have the lowest crime rate? Japan is one such place, but that isnt too surprising.

  99. USA Today crunched the data on this a few months ago:
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/18/ferguson-black-arrest-rates/19043207/
    “Only 173 of the 3,538 police departments USA TODAY examined arrested black people at a rate equal to or lower than other racial groups.”
    You can play with the map, but unfortunately you can’t download the underlying data, which would be really great. (The arrest data is available to anyone from the FBI, but the codebook isn’t great and I’m not sure what they’re matching on to get it to line up with population data.)
    I selected some of the the “none” (no disparity) dots, attempting to do so randomly. Here are the first five. I’m getting info on the places from Wikipedia

    1. Coalinga, California: 4.1% black and the site of a state prison
    2. El Paso County, Texas: over 80% Hispanic, 3% black
    3. Coal Township, Pennsylvania: 9% black
    4. Abbeville County, South Carolina: 30% black
    5. Conneaut, Ohio: 8% black.

    So of the 5 I looked at, 1 of them has a state prison and another is overwhelmingly Hispanic. But the other three are majority-white non-Hispanic areas without prisons (or military bases).

    One factor I would guess is an issue – just as a statistical fact – is that areas with very small black populations (numbers, not proportions) are going to be overrepresented both in terms of having very low ratios of black arrests to other arrests and very high ones. Small numbers mean high variance.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anthony

    Thanks. Very interesting.

    Coal Township, PA has a pretty big prison, too. As does Conneaut, OH.

    Abbeville County, SC only seems to have a moderate sized detention center. And it has 5,000 or more blacks, so the sample size is legit. So, it may be a legitimate example of racial equality in arrests. Interestingly, it must be about as rock-ribbed conservative a place as there is in the country: the most famous person to come from Abbeville County is John C. Calhoun.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Galactic Overlord
    @Anthony

    I decided to look up the numbers for Kentucky, where I live. There are seven police departments in that state in which USA Today noted as "no disparity". I use the quotes because there is actually one place where whites are nearly 20 times (!!) as likely to be arrested as blacks.

    However, your remark on small sample size DEFINITELY applies to all of these communities... and in some cases, you can take that up to eleven.

    I'm using Census data for populations and racial percentages, and counting only non-Hispanics as "white" or "black". I'll also be using my regional knowledge to put some of these jurisdictions in a broader context.

    Three of these places are Appalachian coal communities. That region has long been overwhelmingly white (though some communities have a locally significant black population), and experienced major brain drain (of all races) for several generations. This in turn means that the remaining white population, on average, has less on the ball than the generic white American. On top of that, the region has been ravaged in recent decades by drug abuse, mainly meth and painkillers.

    1. Martin County (13K population, 89% white, 7% black, 3% Hispanic) — This is the place where whites are nearly 20X more likely to be arrested.
    2. McCreary County (18K+ population, 90% white, 5% black, 2% Hispanic)
    3. West Liberty (not even 3,500 population, 79% white, 17% black, 2% Hispanic) — An unusually large black population for Appalachia, and even for Kentucky as a whole. The state is less than 8% black and over 85% white.

    Another one is a small city in the state's western coal fields, with much the same core population (white, mostly British, and heavily Scots-Irish influenced) and brain drain, with at least some of the same social pathologies.

    Central City (a hair under 6K, 86% white, slightly under 10% black, 2% Hispanic) — As an aside, this is the county seat of Muhlenberg County, made famous by the Everly Brothers (Don was born in a nearby coal camp, and both brothers were heavily influenced by their Kentucky background) and later by John Prine's song "Paradise" (best known for its John Denver cover version).

    Three more communities are on the fringes between the state's central Bluegrass region and Appalachia.

    1. Berea (13.5K, just under 90% white, 4% black, 3% Hispanic) — A college town that has also become a major center for Appalachian art and crafts in recent years. The college in question, Berea College, is especially interesting from a sociological standpoint. It has an explicit mission to educate underprivileged students, with a strong preference for first-generation college students from Appalachia. All students get free tuition in exchange for working at the college, and not always in "traditional" student jobs (for example, the college owns and operates a historic hotel near campus). Many of the non-Appalachian students are international students. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if a significant percentage of Berea's blacks attend the college.
    2. Maysville (9K, 84% white, 11% black, less than 2% Hispanic) — More identified with the Bluegrass than Appalachia, it's a historic Ohio River town. It's the county seat of Mason County, whose separate department is listed by USA Today as having a disparity against blacks. However, the county's racial disparity in arrest rates is not even close to 2X, and arrest rates for whites and blacks in the city are virtually equal.
    3. Montgomery County (26.5K, 93% white, less than 3% of both blacks and Hispanics) — Also on the Bluegrass/Appalachia fringe, but starting to fall into the orbit of Lexington (about 40 miles east down I-64). Small sample size is more of a problem here than it appears—the county seat of Mount Sterling (close to 7K, slightly less white and more black than the county) has its own police department, and USA Today didn't have arrest data for it.

  100. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    @John C

    As I've said here before, one of the handful of black guys in my college town raped my girlfriend. It was a very white, affluent, low crime college town with a famously high quality of life. One of the few black people I ever saw there raped my girlfriend.

    Just give up. Blacks commit an overwhelmingly disproportionate number of the crimes in America, because they are different. That's all. Because they are different.

    Eric Holder, Barry Obama, Al Sharpton and all the rest of the black community organizers are just Marxist a**holes who will twist things any way they can to shift the blame to whitey and divide the populace to their advantage.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    “As I’ve said here before, one of the handful of black guys in my college town raped my girlfriend. It was a very white, affluent, low crime college town with a famously high quality of life. One of the few black people I ever saw there raped my girlfriend.”

    That’s awful. I’m so sorry for your girlfriend.

  101. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Possibly mentioned by others, but in this NYT story on Furguson

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/06/us/in-ferguson-some-who-are-part-of-problem-are-asked-to-be-part-of-solution.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

    is this bit
    “They[offensive e-mails] were circulated widely, Justice Department officials said, and no discipline has been announced for those who received the emails and said nothing.”

    In other words, denounce you friends, neighbors, co-workers & family members, because in the future you’ll be in trouble if you don’t.

  102. @Anthony
    USA Today crunched the data on this a few months ago:
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/18/ferguson-black-arrest-rates/19043207/
    "Only 173 of the 3,538 police departments USA TODAY examined arrested black people at a rate equal to or lower than other racial groups."
    You can play with the map, but unfortunately you can't download the underlying data, which would be really great. (The arrest data is available to anyone from the FBI, but the codebook isn't great and I'm not sure what they're matching on to get it to line up with population data.)
    I selected some of the the "none" (no disparity) dots, attempting to do so randomly. Here are the first five. I'm getting info on the places from Wikipedia

    1. Coalinga, California: 4.1% black and the site of a state prison
    2. El Paso County, Texas: over 80% Hispanic, 3% black
    3. Coal Township, Pennsylvania: 9% black
    4. Abbeville County, South Carolina: 30% black
    5. Conneaut, Ohio: 8% black.

    So of the 5 I looked at, 1 of them has a state prison and another is overwhelmingly Hispanic. But the other three are majority-white non-Hispanic areas without prisons (or military bases).

    One factor I would guess is an issue - just as a statistical fact - is that areas with very small black populations (numbers, not proportions) are going to be overrepresented both in terms of having very low ratios of black arrests to other arrests and very high ones. Small numbers mean high variance.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Galactic Overlord

    Thanks. Very interesting.

    Coal Township, PA has a pretty big prison, too. As does Conneaut, OH.

    Abbeville County, SC only seems to have a moderate sized detention center. And it has 5,000 or more blacks, so the sample size is legit. So, it may be a legitimate example of racial equality in arrests. Interestingly, it must be about as rock-ribbed conservative a place as there is in the country: the most famous person to come from Abbeville County is John C. Calhoun.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Steve Sailer

    So it looks like Donut's idea of prisons turns out to be insightful. I'm not sure how they are skewing the data, but they seem to have an influence.

    El Paso would be like my idea of a military place, along with other federal workers.

  103. @Steve Sailer
    @Anthony

    Thanks. Very interesting.

    Coal Township, PA has a pretty big prison, too. As does Conneaut, OH.

    Abbeville County, SC only seems to have a moderate sized detention center. And it has 5,000 or more blacks, so the sample size is legit. So, it may be a legitimate example of racial equality in arrests. Interestingly, it must be about as rock-ribbed conservative a place as there is in the country: the most famous person to come from Abbeville County is John C. Calhoun.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    So it looks like Donut’s idea of prisons turns out to be insightful. I’m not sure how they are skewing the data, but they seem to have an influence.

    El Paso would be like my idea of a military place, along with other federal workers.

  104. @Anthony
    USA Today crunched the data on this a few months ago:
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/18/ferguson-black-arrest-rates/19043207/
    "Only 173 of the 3,538 police departments USA TODAY examined arrested black people at a rate equal to or lower than other racial groups."
    You can play with the map, but unfortunately you can't download the underlying data, which would be really great. (The arrest data is available to anyone from the FBI, but the codebook isn't great and I'm not sure what they're matching on to get it to line up with population data.)
    I selected some of the the "none" (no disparity) dots, attempting to do so randomly. Here are the first five. I'm getting info on the places from Wikipedia

    1. Coalinga, California: 4.1% black and the site of a state prison
    2. El Paso County, Texas: over 80% Hispanic, 3% black
    3. Coal Township, Pennsylvania: 9% black
    4. Abbeville County, South Carolina: 30% black
    5. Conneaut, Ohio: 8% black.

    So of the 5 I looked at, 1 of them has a state prison and another is overwhelmingly Hispanic. But the other three are majority-white non-Hispanic areas without prisons (or military bases).

    One factor I would guess is an issue - just as a statistical fact - is that areas with very small black populations (numbers, not proportions) are going to be overrepresented both in terms of having very low ratios of black arrests to other arrests and very high ones. Small numbers mean high variance.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Galactic Overlord

    I decided to look up the numbers for Kentucky, where I live. There are seven police departments in that state in which USA Today noted as “no disparity”. I use the quotes because there is actually one place where whites are nearly 20 times (!!) as likely to be arrested as blacks.

    However, your remark on small sample size DEFINITELY applies to all of these communities… and in some cases, you can take that up to eleven.

    I’m using Census data for populations and racial percentages, and counting only non-Hispanics as “white” or “black”. I’ll also be using my regional knowledge to put some of these jurisdictions in a broader context.

    Three of these places are Appalachian coal communities. That region has long been overwhelmingly white (though some communities have a locally significant black population), and experienced major brain drain (of all races) for several generations. This in turn means that the remaining white population, on average, has less on the ball than the generic white American. On top of that, the region has been ravaged in recent decades by drug abuse, mainly meth and painkillers.

    1. Martin County (13K population, 89% white, 7% black, 3% Hispanic) — This is the place where whites are nearly 20X more likely to be arrested.
    2. McCreary County (18K+ population, 90% white, 5% black, 2% Hispanic)
    3. West Liberty (not even 3,500 population, 79% white, 17% black, 2% Hispanic) — An unusually large black population for Appalachia, and even for Kentucky as a whole. The state is less than 8% black and over 85% white.

    Another one is a small city in the state’s western coal fields, with much the same core population (white, mostly British, and heavily Scots-Irish influenced) and brain drain, with at least some of the same social pathologies.

    Central City (a hair under 6K, 86% white, slightly under 10% black, 2% Hispanic) — As an aside, this is the county seat of Muhlenberg County, made famous by the Everly Brothers (Don was born in a nearby coal camp, and both brothers were heavily influenced by their Kentucky background) and later by John Prine’s song “Paradise” (best known for its John Denver cover version).

    Three more communities are on the fringes between the state’s central Bluegrass region and Appalachia.

    1. Berea (13.5K, just under 90% white, 4% black, 3% Hispanic) — A college town that has also become a major center for Appalachian art and crafts in recent years. The college in question, Berea College, is especially interesting from a sociological standpoint. It has an explicit mission to educate underprivileged students, with a strong preference for first-generation college students from Appalachia. All students get free tuition in exchange for working at the college, and not always in “traditional” student jobs (for example, the college owns and operates a historic hotel near campus). Many of the non-Appalachian students are international students. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if a significant percentage of Berea’s blacks attend the college.
    2. Maysville (9K, 84% white, 11% black, less than 2% Hispanic) — More identified with the Bluegrass than Appalachia, it’s a historic Ohio River town. It’s the county seat of Mason County, whose separate department is listed by USA Today as having a disparity against blacks. However, the county’s racial disparity in arrest rates is not even close to 2X, and arrest rates for whites and blacks in the city are virtually equal.
    3. Montgomery County (26.5K, 93% white, less than 3% of both blacks and Hispanics) — Also on the Bluegrass/Appalachia fringe, but starting to fall into the orbit of Lexington (about 40 miles east down I-64). Small sample size is more of a problem here than it appears—the county seat of Mount Sterling (close to 7K, slightly less white and more black than the county) has its own police department, and USA Today didn’t have arrest data for it.

  105. Oops… made a mistake in my big post above. Lexington is to the west of Montgomery County. (slapping side of head… I should know that!)

  106. @Steve Sailer
    @Ed

    The walking down the middle of the street thing seems to be a problem in some places but not others. I read an article about a middle class black inner ring suburb of Detroit where the old residents are being driven crazy by new arrivals from Detroit walking in the middle of the street. But I don't recall that in Chicago (although you'd have to be suicidal to walk in the street in Chicago).

    That's also a problem in the San Fernando Valley suburb where I live, although the divide is regional rather than racial. In the quarter square mile tract where I live, the southern three blocks have sidewalks but the northern three blocks don't have sidewalks. So when the Northsiders walk their dogs, they walk right down the middle of the street. And they keep walking down the middle of the street when they come down to our half of the tract ... where there are sidewalks. It drives my wife crazy when she's driving that Northsiders are still walking their Labradors down the middle of the street even though the Southside has sidewalks for them to walk on.

    Replies: @donut, @Hipster, @The Z Blog, @C. Van Carter, @TB

    Looking forward to youtube-clips featuring driverless cars vs jaywalkers next year;)
    http://observer.com/2015/03/self-driving-cars-will-be-in-30-u-s-cities-by-the-end-of-next-year/

  107. @John C
    How about an Ivy League town with a relatively small African-Aamerican population not associated with the university? Cambridge (which has MIT as well as Harvard) would qualify, but New Haven (Yale) would not. Princeton, NJ, but not Philadelphia, home to the U of Pennsylvania. Ithaca (Cornell) but not Providence (Brown) and certainly not New York (Columbia).

    Replies: @mw, @Buzz Mohawk, @Polymath, @Eternal Vigilance

    Cambridge MA has a far higher black crime rate. It has projects, and it has plenty of black Bostonians coming through. It’s the place where I learned that my liberal upbringing didn’t account for reality, and that there were places I shouldn’t walk.

    Princeton NJ has a long established black community. It’s my impression that it is less mixed with the migrated Southern blacks than many others, at least culturally. It’s a small city with a small black population. Many of the blacks were displaced to the outskirts of town when their neighborhood was redeveloped for an upscale shopping/residential complex. Some of them probably had to leave town entirely. The “projects” are modest garden apartments with frequent bus service into town, and I have no anxiety about walking there or in the remnants of the black neighborhood (lots of Hispanic male immigrants there now but I’m kind of old for catcalls.)

    The young black people still face the lure of the ‘hood, the pressure to be hard. Trenton is a twenty minute drive.

    Traffic stops? Probably disproportionately black, but out-of-towners.

  108. @John C
    How about an Ivy League town with a relatively small African-Aamerican population not associated with the university? Cambridge (which has MIT as well as Harvard) would qualify, but New Haven (Yale) would not. Princeton, NJ, but not Philadelphia, home to the U of Pennsylvania. Ithaca (Cornell) but not Providence (Brown) and certainly not New York (Columbia).

    Replies: @mw, @Buzz Mohawk, @Polymath, @Eternal Vigilance

    Holder could not investigate collegial communities. His agency would be falling all over university sponsored anti-Semitism that is rampant on campuses. And then he would have to acknowledge that it is the Muslim Brotherhood that is at the root of the anti-Semitism. No, we will never see the Department of Justice on University campuses unless they are wearing horse blinders.

  109. @George
    Mr Google said:

    10 of the Richest Black Communities in America
    http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/01/03/10-richest-black-communities-america/

    Maryland, has the most for some reason.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @donut, @dcite

    Suburb of D.C. A lot of government jobs in D.C. and the surrounding Maryland suburbs. Also Virginia, although more blacks in Maryland. Prince Georges was one of the first Md. suburbs to attract this vibrant middle class and it’s now known for being bad in any number of ways.
    I have tried and tried to get past my “racism” — which is basically just realizing, observing, and reacting in a self-protective way — to what is happening all around me. It does feel to whites like the world is insane. We are the ones in danger, and yet the ones who commit most of the crimes are celebrated as victims. It’s sickening. Even decent blacks must find it exasperating as they move to get away from crime and find that the criminals find it easier to circulated in areas with people who look like them.

  110. @unit472
    @Harry Baldwin

    Blacks view the sidewalk, street, open space as extensions of their homes and a place to socialize. It maybe genetic because you see it all over the world. Compare that to whites who almost never use their front yards or sidewalks for social purposes but gather in their more private backyards for socializing. That too maybe genetic as European and American architecture make the front of a property a grand display with big manicured lawns and plantings but it is the backyard that has the pool, patio, deck, garden etc for entertaining.

    Replies: @dcite

    Front porches have been a feature of house architecture since the 1800s that I know of. Think of any Victorian house. In the 20th century, row houses in various cities, built for a mostly white population, usually had front porches, and they were used–I grew up in one.
    It does seem to be less common in past few decades. Having a back patio was a prestige thing in the 50s and 60s, and backyard decks became desirable in the 1980s

  111. Liberals I’ve spoken with know this is BS, but they are confounded by what is really behind it. It doesn’t compute because they are about 25 years behind the curve and have no understanding of what Political Correctness (language/thought control) really is, let alone Cultural Marxism. If the cognitive dissonance is starting to perplex some of the Nice White Liberals I know (who generally avoid discussing race/crime related issues with me), it’s bound to shake up the political foundations for plenty of others as well. I’ve learned to ask them bite-size questions to help them further explore these issues from my perspective instead of engaging in heated discourse or providing them more information than they can digest.

  112. Liberals I’ve spoken with know this is BS, but they are confounded by what is really behind it. It doesn’t compute because they are about 25 years behind the curve and have no understanding of what Political Correctness really is (language/thought control) , let alone Cultural Marxism. If the cognitive dissonance is starting to perplex some of the Nice White Liberals I know (who generally avoid discussing race/crime related issues with me), it’s bound to shake up the cosmology for plenty of others as well. I’ve learned to ask them bite-size questions to help them further explore these issues from my perspective instead of engaging in heated discourse or providing them more information than they can digest.

  113. @donut
    @Steve Sailer

    Walking in the the street is a "black thing" as is just stepping out into traffic whenever the mood strikes . Before I found a way around them I used to drive down Greenmount Ave. to get to work , you had to constantly be on the lookout for the morons to step off the curb and into traffic to cross the street . Once as I was driving that way a dog stepped off the curb to cross , he looked both ways , saw all the traffic and stepped back up onto the sidewalk . So the smartest creature in that 100% black part of town was a dog.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Art Deco, @peterike, @keypusher, @Marc

    I see this all over Memphis, but they know better than to push it to the same levels while visiting the suburbs. Blacks also seem to be aware that Whites driving through the hood are less likely to be hip to their antics, so they tend to back off before starting their jaywalk across six lanes of traffic during rush hour.

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