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IQ Denialism is an extremely respectable form of anti-science conspiracy theory-mongering.

Of course, if IQ were just a delusion of white male privileged racists, it would be hard to explain how test scores could be forecast from brain scans. Slowly, however, that’s becoming more feasible to accomplish.

Steve Hsu has a post, “IQ prediction from structural MRI,” about a new paper at PLOS called “MRI-Based Intelligence Quotient (IQ) Estimation with Sparse Learning” that claims quite high correlations between data from brain scans and IQ.

Meanwhile, Emil Kirkegaard has posted on his formidable Clear Language, Clear Mind blog a draft of his paper on “The general brain factor, working memory, parental income and education, and racial admixture.”

James Thompson at Psychological Comments has thoughts on Kirkegaard’s analysis here.

 
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  1. Neoconned [AKA "Paleolibertarian"] says:

    http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2015/04/10/judge-slams-victims-tots-black-men-fear/25581605/

    Off topic: a white family suffers a home invasion and is held at gun point by two black robbers. The three year old girl is traumatized and still fears black males. The response by the judge?

    He rips into the family for “racism” in court and on his Facebook page, then lets the armed robber who pled guilty to armed robbery off on PROBATION!

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    Your link is to a shocking story - shocking on many counts to an Australian concerned that ignorant or supine Attorney's-General let Australians be extradited!
    1. Elected judge
    2. Judge using social media except in a completely innocuous private way with friends
    3. The lack of cognitive ability which allowed him to interpret the victim statement in the way he did
    4. The use of victim statements as if the victims feelings should have some impact on sentencing - a fashion, supported by legislation, which we btought in in Victoria (state) over my resistance > 20 years ago in the form of a "victim impact statement". OK to provide outlet for victims'feelings as to 95 per cent, and educating judges 5 per cent IMO.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    And what is Judge Olu Stevens'ethnicity? The report coyly avoids mentioning that interesting fact.
    , @Curle
    Look on the bright side. That little girl just became a Republican for life.
  2. Yep, IQ doesn’t exist.

    So it’s a real pity that Harvard, Yale and all the rest don’t operate an ‘open admissions policy’, and take in as freshman all those who show up.

    • Replies: @Hare Krishna
    Which would actually be a good thing.

    Although, an open hiring policy for professors which would give positions to those not part of the liberal mafia would be even better.
  3. Careful, Steve. Tom Wolfe wrote credulously about IQ brain scans (scams?) in his article “Sorry, but Your Soul Just Died” that turned out to be a hoax worthy of Jackie Coakley.

    There are valid criticisms of IQ other than that Chris Langan flunked out of Montana State.

    What is the iSteve-sphere take on the book “IQ in Question,” by Michael Howe?

  4. native Indians have big brain despite their low iq

    • Replies: @AnonymousCoward
    No, they do not.

    Pacific Islanders do, however.
  5. You also see strong evidence for IQ in tasks that involve only sensory perception, which points to its biological basis.

    For example, there is a simple visual motion discrimination task, in which the variation of reaction time with stimulus size is highly predictive of IQ. Basically, high IQ people have both fast reactions and strong inhibitory suppression (hence, attentional focus). So, as a stimulus gets bigger, the performance of high IQ people degrades more because stimulus size overwhelms inhibitory suppression. By looking at the pattern of reaction times as a function of stimulus size, you get very strong correlations with IQ.

    Reference: Melnick, M. D., Harrison, B. R., Park, S., Bennetto, L., & Tadin, D. (2013). A strong interactive link between sensory discriminations and intelligence. Current Biology, 23(11), 1013-1017.

  6. @foxy
    native Indians have big brain despite their low iq

    No, they do not.

    Pacific Islanders do, however.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    Hence Jared Diamond's assertions about his version of Noble Savages.
    , @Anonymous
    Actually they do:

    http://mapsontheweb.zoom-maps.com/post/105271679688/world-brain-size-map-map-over-cranial-capacity-in
  7. “The findings in this study are similar to previous studies (Morton, 1839) where the mean cranial volume of the skulls of whites was 1,425 cm³, while that of the Blacks was 1,278 cm³. Based on the measurement of 144 skulls of Native Americans, Morton (1839) reported a figure of 1,344 cm³.”

    https://abc102.wordpress.com/2011/02/17/brain-size-and-correlates-with-iq/

  8. I’ve seen this “reaction time” thing stated over and over in connection with intelligence.

    What are you guys talking about and how is it measured?

    Because I’m reasonably certain I can take a click initiated timer, flash a light, and measure how quickly it takes someone to click twice.

    We did that in high school, and no surprise the athletes did it best.

    So what are we talking about here?

    • Replies: @Sailer has an interesting life
    I am not an expert but this is why such tests have such specificity required during testing. One test with a flash light != rigorous testing. Not trying to be annoying. :-)
    , @Phil
    Reaction times refer to decision-making times, not reflexes. Ideally, the tests can separate decision times from motor skills. The results are generally that decision times provide an indication of general intelligence ('g').
    , @Elliot
    It's not surprising that the athletes had the lowest times, because that task includes both reaction time and movement time, and it's the latter that will account for most of the time-- athletes presumably move more quickly and accurately.

    The classic reaction time study is set up something like this:

    The subject starts the trial holding down a button. Around the button a number of other buttons are arrayed in a semicircle, and each one has a light next to it. When a light goes off, the subject then presses the corresponding button.

    The reaction time is just the time from when the signal is given to when the subject's finger lifts off the center/home button, not the whole time until the correct button is pressed. And it's the reaction time that has the connection with IQ.
    , @Bill
    Task: hit button when light comes on

    light comes on at time t0
    hand starts moving at time t1
    hand hits button at time t2

    t1-t0 = correlated with IQ
    t2-t1 = (I assume) correlated with being a good athlete
    , @Charlesz Martel
    Years age, in Moscow in the early 70's, I visited the Soviet Amateur Rocketry Society. They had a similar gadget for testing reaction times, and thus I.Q. It was a board with randomly placed multicolored lights. There was a bank of buttons below it with a white light bulb above each switch, which lit up when the switch was pressed. Each switch button was illuminated with a different color that changed- (multicolored bulbs in the same switch). The object was speed and accuracy; i.e., the switch would have to be pressed to match whichever colored light on the board illuminated. They let me try it for a bit. Its harder than it seems, when it gets going really fast. They told me I did well.
    , @Emil O. W. Kirkegaard
    Review:
    http://arthurjensen.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Mental-Chronometry-and-the-Unification-of-Differential-Psychology-2004-by-Arthur-Robert-Jensen.pdf

    Short book
    http://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/Arthur_R._Jensen_Clocking_the_Mind_Mental_ChronBookos.org_.pdf
  9. Off topic in World War T news: deep cracking sounds are emanating from the LGB/T faultline.

    Creator of Michfest Boycott Emily Dievendorf Resigns as Executive Director of Equality Michigan

    This afternoon Equality Michigan announced that Executive Director Emily Dievendorf has resigned. The surprise announcement comes on the heels of the withdrawal of support by The National Center for Lesbian Rights and The National LGBTQ Task Force for the controversial anti-Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival boycott authored by Dievendorf last year.

    Dievendorf, a “Bisexual Rights” activist partnered with a male, organized the contentious boycott against members of the lesbian community who support the iconic annual 40-year-strong women-only music festival.

  10. Slightly off topic, but here’s a paper on Greek vs Chinese IQ. It’s written by blogger Dienekes.

    http://dienekes.awardspace.com/articles/greekiq/iq.pdf

    The study found that Greek and Chinese pupils performed comparably well, but the Chinese had stronger visuo/spatial abilities.

    Interestingly, Professor Flynn also found that Chinese-Americans and Japanese-Americans of pre-WWII were similar to White Americans in mean IQ, but seemed to have a stronger visuo/spatial component.

    Read below:

    Recently, Demetriou et al. [4] compared the intelligence of Greek and Chinese pupils aged 8 to
    14. It is generally reported that East Asians tend to score somewhat higher than Europeans in
    IQ tests, but the causes of this are little known. In this study, the researchers compared the two
    groups on measures of processing efficiency, working memory, and reasoning and the three separate
    domains: verbal/propositional, quantitative, and visuo/spatial.
    The methodology used in this study allowed for a more fine-grained assessment of the intelligence
    of the two groups. A series of different models were tested, and a particular three-level model
    was found to best explain the performance of the two groups. The first-order factors of this
    model were: speed, control of processing, phonological/visuo-spatial/executive working memory,
    and spatial/quantitative/verbal thinking. These are obviously not independent of each other, and
    three second-order factors were identified: processing efficiency, working memory, and thinking.
    Finally, a third-order general factor, or g was identified.
    This model captures the fact that individuals have both general capacities which are useful for
    many different tasks, as well as more specialized capacities, which are useful for particular ones,
    e.g., reasoning about numbers. It is thus a better way to compare two groups than just g, measured
    by IQ tests, because that is a mix of all different aptitudes and obscures the underlying factors in
    which two groups may differ.
    The first important finding of the study was that the model described above was valid for both
    Greeks and Chinese pupils. This provides some evidence that the thought process of the two groups
    is similar, and uses the same set of biological tools, which can be conceptualized as organized in a
    three-tier hierarchy. There is no difference between the two groups in this respect.
    The second important finding is that the Greek pupils did not differ from the Chinese in g
    or general intelligence. This contrasts with many reports in the literature about the superior
    intelligence of East Asians compared to Europeans, which are based on studies which average
    across different capacities and do not take the architecture of mental processing into account.
    The Chinese did outperform the Greeks in visuo/spatial ability, but this difference was smaller
    at earlier ages, grew during the first years of schooling and decreased later. The authors suggest
    that this pattern can be explained as follows: the Chinese students train their visuo/spatial ability
    during their early school years, as they have to learn many logographic characters of the Chinese
    writing system. Later in life, the Greek students adopt compensating strategies to deal with
    visuo/spatial information, and therefore the difference decreases in this realm.

    • Replies: @Michelle
    Anecdotal evidence, and my own lyin' eyes, would contradict the claim of any visual/spatial superiority on the part of the Chinese. They are absolutely the worst drivers of all time and should not be allowed to wash cars much less drive them. Why do the Japanese pay Western race car drivers to drive their cars?? Hmmm...
  11. @JohnnyWalker123
    Slightly off topic, but here's a paper on Greek vs Chinese IQ. It's written by blogger Dienekes.

    http://dienekes.awardspace.com/articles/greekiq/iq.pdf

    The study found that Greek and Chinese pupils performed comparably well, but the Chinese had stronger visuo/spatial abilities.


    Interestingly, Professor Flynn also found that Chinese-Americans and Japanese-Americans of pre-WWII were similar to White Americans in mean IQ, but seemed to have a stronger visuo/spatial component.

    Read below:

    Recently, Demetriou et al. [4] compared the intelligence of Greek and Chinese pupils aged 8 to
    14. It is generally reported that East Asians tend to score somewhat higher than Europeans in
    IQ tests, but the causes of this are little known. In this study, the researchers compared the two
    groups on measures of processing efficiency, working memory, and reasoning and the three separate
    domains: verbal/propositional, quantitative, and visuo/spatial.
    The methodology used in this study allowed for a more fine-grained assessment of the intelligence
    of the two groups. A series of different models were tested, and a particular three-level model
    was found to best explain the performance of the two groups. The first-order factors of this
    model were: speed, control of processing, phonological/visuo-spatial/executive working memory,
    and spatial/quantitative/verbal thinking. These are obviously not independent of each other, and
    three second-order factors were identified: processing efficiency, working memory, and thinking.
    Finally, a third-order general factor, or g was identified.
    This model captures the fact that individuals have both general capacities which are useful for
    many different tasks, as well as more specialized capacities, which are useful for particular ones,
    e.g., reasoning about numbers. It is thus a better way to compare two groups than just g, measured
    by IQ tests, because that is a mix of all different aptitudes and obscures the underlying factors in
    which two groups may differ.
    The first important finding of the study was that the model described above was valid for both
    Greeks and Chinese pupils. This provides some evidence that the thought process of the two groups
    is similar, and uses the same set of biological tools, which can be conceptualized as organized in a
    three-tier hierarchy. There is no difference between the two groups in this respect.
    The second important finding is that the Greek pupils did not differ from the Chinese in g
    or general intelligence. This contrasts with many reports in the literature about the superior
    intelligence of East Asians compared to Europeans, which are based on studies which average
    across different capacities and do not take the architecture of mental processing into account.
    The Chinese did outperform the Greeks in visuo/spatial ability, but this difference was smaller
    at earlier ages, grew during the first years of schooling and decreased later. The authors suggest
    that this pattern can be explained as follows: the Chinese students train their visuo/spatial ability
    during their early school years, as they have to learn many logographic characters of the Chinese
    writing system. Later in life, the Greek students adopt compensating strategies to deal with
    visuo/spatial information, and therefore the difference decreases in this realm.
     

    Anecdotal evidence, and my own lyin’ eyes, would contradict the claim of any visual/spatial superiority on the part of the Chinese. They are absolutely the worst drivers of all time and should not be allowed to wash cars much less drive them. Why do the Japanese pay Western race car drivers to drive their cars?? Hmmm…

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    I believe studies by insurance companies show that the slightly aggressive driver to be the safest of all. Asians drive like they are afraid and are always giving others the right of way even when they have it lawfully. This screws up other drivers who expect them to act as everybody else.
    , @Neutral
    Sailer actually had an article a few days ago that showed of the stats of the highest road fatalities by country. While China is hardly the safest place to drive, Africa seemed to have the highest accident rates.
    , @Yngvar
    "Why do the Japanese pay Western race car drivers to drive their cars??"

    Money. The TV-viewers wants someone they can identify with. Nobody cares that much about the make and models of the cars unless the rice rocket is driven by someone you can look up to or be inspired by. And the consumers with money and interest in racing are mainly in the West.

    , @Marty
    The claim that Chinese drivers are "the worst," is outdated. I actually heard a carrot-topped Irish kid say exactly that in traffic school in SF in 1990. The asians in the room took it with relatively good humor in that pre-PC day. But with smart phones and huge SUV's, I think arrogant multi-tasking swpl women create more problems than timid asians. If you want to be an aggressive, le mans-style lane weaver, come to SF. The cops just don't care, or possibly don't come to work at all.
  12. What will become of “disparate impact” if an MRI scan is used in lieu of a written test, let’s say, for a future teacher.

    Could this MRI scan overcome the SCOTUS view enunciated in 1971:

    “…absence of discriminatory intent does not redeem employment procedures or testing mechanisms that operate as ‘built in headwinds’ for minority groups and are unrelated to measuring job capacity.”

    or will it be just be deemed another ” built in headwind “?

    • Replies: @Gato de la Biblioteca
    Jill, they'll simply ban MRIs of heads.
  13. OT

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/04/10/bc-teacher-suing-false-accusations_n_7042732.html

    From this:

    The longtime teacher with a spotless record fought for his job. Ultimately, an arbitration hearing uncovered that all of the student’s claims were lifted from the TV show “Law & Order: Special Victims Unit.” The girl testified that she had watched every episode of the drama at least three times, and some as many as 10 times.

    What, not “Dawson’s Creek?”

    • Replies: @Lugash
    Arizona might have something similar going on, but with John Tucker must die.

    http://www.kvoa.com/story/28731325/court-hearing-set-in-high-school-rape-investigation
    , @kaganovitch
    This was high school, Dawson's Creek is for college kids.
  14. @Michelle
    Anecdotal evidence, and my own lyin' eyes, would contradict the claim of any visual/spatial superiority on the part of the Chinese. They are absolutely the worst drivers of all time and should not be allowed to wash cars much less drive them. Why do the Japanese pay Western race car drivers to drive their cars?? Hmmm...

    I believe studies by insurance companies show that the slightly aggressive driver to be the safest of all. Asians drive like they are afraid and are always giving others the right of way even when they have it lawfully. This screws up other drivers who expect them to act as everybody else.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    That makes sense. Adjusting for demographics, L.A. traditionally had the best drivers, and people in L.A. drive fast -- the 134 Freeway through Burbank averages 80 to 85 mph when not jammed -- I guess the point is to be aggressive but not particularly hostile.
    , @Bill P

    I believe studies by insurance companies show that the slightly aggressive driver to be the safest of all. Asians drive like they are afraid and are always giving others the right of way even when they have it lawfully. This screws up other drivers who expect them to act as everybody else.
     
    I used to drive for work on and off as a kid/young adult (was employed driving trucks by age 17). Never had an at-fault accident, but I've been hit perhaps half a dozen times over the years. Being aggressive and being confident are two different things, although they can seem the same to an untrained observer. Confident drivers are in control, follow the rules because they know them well, and rarely make mistakes. Cautious drivers are usually less familiar with the rules and culture of driving (this is why they are so cautious), so they are more prone to errors. Aggressive drivers are just a-holes.

    Asians are unfamiliar with the American driving culture, which is to drive fast and straight. The American walking culture is similar. This doesn't work in Asia, because it's too crowded, so people there meander around and flow through each other like water molecules. They drive the same way. I've driven in China, and it was an amusing experience. I was already accustomed to walking there and still young enough to be flexible so I got the hang of it very quickly, but a typical American would have fits over it.

    If you want to see how Chinese walk and drive without leaving the US, visit Chinatown in San Francisco. You'll get through it faster on foot than in a car.
    , @SPMoore8
    I take "slightly aggressive" to mean a driver who shows a willingness to break procedure and/or the law to solve a traffic problem. I drive daily for hours on Interstates with many 18 wheelers and commuters. If someone in the fast lane is talking on their cell phone, or putting on their makeup, or are just unwilling to exceed the speed limit, they can cause a dangerous backup behind them. You have to be willing to speed, and, for your own sake, to thread the needle on the right handed lanes just to get away from the dangerous congestion. And yes, speeds of 80+ mph are typical.

    The real problem on highways are drivers who take it personally, i.e., the guy driving at 5 mph over the speed limit in the fast lane who refuses to drive any faster because it is the Law, or the other driver who tailgates within six feet of the guy in front of him, thinking this will cause them to finally get out of the fast lane. It never works: the guy in front slows down, and then you have some more dangerous congestion.

    Two lane blacktops are a special case; you can usually tell when the guy behind you is in a hurry, and if he is, it won't hurt to pull over and let him pass. But people rarely do that. The result is another long caravan of tail-gaters.
    , @Cloudswrest
    Exactly! I've joked with my wife regarding other drivers to wit, "I've already taken into my predictive driving algorithm the assumption that you're an assh*le and adjusted my anticipations accordingly. The fact that you turned out to be nice just screwed up everything and pissed me off!"
    , @Kyle a
    Whoa. Down is the LA area they are not the docile drivers you claim. They drive just like they do back in their home countries. Pull right out in front of you. They expect you to react to them
    , @disambiguated
    That isn't the case in Southeast Asia. It's essentially a Mad Max-type situation.
  15. @Sunbeam
    I've seen this "reaction time" thing stated over and over in connection with intelligence.

    What are you guys talking about and how is it measured?

    Because I'm reasonably certain I can take a click initiated timer, flash a light, and measure how quickly it takes someone to click twice.

    We did that in high school, and no surprise the athletes did it best.

    So what are we talking about here?

    I am not an expert but this is why such tests have such specificity required during testing. One test with a flash light != rigorous testing. Not trying to be annoying. 🙂

  16. @Michelle
    Anecdotal evidence, and my own lyin' eyes, would contradict the claim of any visual/spatial superiority on the part of the Chinese. They are absolutely the worst drivers of all time and should not be allowed to wash cars much less drive them. Why do the Japanese pay Western race car drivers to drive their cars?? Hmmm...

    Sailer actually had an article a few days ago that showed of the stats of the highest road fatalities by country. While China is hardly the safest place to drive, Africa seemed to have the highest accident rates.

  17. @MarkinLA
    I believe studies by insurance companies show that the slightly aggressive driver to be the safest of all. Asians drive like they are afraid and are always giving others the right of way even when they have it lawfully. This screws up other drivers who expect them to act as everybody else.

    That makes sense. Adjusting for demographics, L.A. traditionally had the best drivers, and people in L.A. drive fast — the 134 Freeway through Burbank averages 80 to 85 mph when not jammed — I guess the point is to be aggressive but not particularly hostile.

    • Replies: @Hare Krishna
    L.A. has never been known for good drivers. Drivers can't get good unless they have to deal with more extreme weather, like snow and hail. Even in the "good old days" L.A. had horrible drivers compared to the East and Midwest.
  18. @AnonymousCoward
    No, they do not.

    Pacific Islanders do, however.

    Hence Jared Diamond’s assertions about his version of Noble Savages.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Diamond was talking about Papua New Guinean types. The Pacific Islanders with large brains are Polynesian types.
  19. advancedatheist [AKA "RedneckCryonicist"] says:

    If IQ estimation from a structural MRI scan becomes a new medical test for, say, diagnosing cognitive decline, will Obamacare cover it?

  20. One more thing regarding reaction time and athletes. Several years ago when I was on a self improvement kick (and before I’d learned about Steve and HBD) I was reading up books like _Outliers_ and _Talent is overrated_. One (IMO) badly written book was (I think) _Bounce_. In it the author mentions how he and his team was administered a test on Reaction Time. Apparently the team mate who was known for having the fastest RT while playing, had the slowest reaction time on the test. The author used this anecdote as an example of how everything is possible. If you work hard enough. It’s funny to look back on how one changes over time isn’t it? 🙂

    Note I may be misattributing the book as I don’t have it any more.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    The athletic equivalent of an IQ test is the standing vertical jump: https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/429831552974225410

    Everything isn't possible, but that doesn't mean nothing is possible. The key, from a self-improvement perspective, is to focus on things you can improve (granted, easier said than done).
  21. @MarkinLA
    I believe studies by insurance companies show that the slightly aggressive driver to be the safest of all. Asians drive like they are afraid and are always giving others the right of way even when they have it lawfully. This screws up other drivers who expect them to act as everybody else.

    I believe studies by insurance companies show that the slightly aggressive driver to be the safest of all. Asians drive like they are afraid and are always giving others the right of way even when they have it lawfully. This screws up other drivers who expect them to act as everybody else.

    I used to drive for work on and off as a kid/young adult (was employed driving trucks by age 17). Never had an at-fault accident, but I’ve been hit perhaps half a dozen times over the years. Being aggressive and being confident are two different things, although they can seem the same to an untrained observer. Confident drivers are in control, follow the rules because they know them well, and rarely make mistakes. Cautious drivers are usually less familiar with the rules and culture of driving (this is why they are so cautious), so they are more prone to errors. Aggressive drivers are just a-holes.

    Asians are unfamiliar with the American driving culture, which is to drive fast and straight. The American walking culture is similar. This doesn’t work in Asia, because it’s too crowded, so people there meander around and flow through each other like water molecules. They drive the same way. I’ve driven in China, and it was an amusing experience. I was already accustomed to walking there and still young enough to be flexible so I got the hang of it very quickly, but a typical American would have fits over it.

    If you want to see how Chinese walk and drive without leaving the US, visit Chinatown in San Francisco. You’ll get through it faster on foot than in a car.

  22. @MarkinLA
    I believe studies by insurance companies show that the slightly aggressive driver to be the safest of all. Asians drive like they are afraid and are always giving others the right of way even when they have it lawfully. This screws up other drivers who expect them to act as everybody else.

    I take “slightly aggressive” to mean a driver who shows a willingness to break procedure and/or the law to solve a traffic problem. I drive daily for hours on Interstates with many 18 wheelers and commuters. If someone in the fast lane is talking on their cell phone, or putting on their makeup, or are just unwilling to exceed the speed limit, they can cause a dangerous backup behind them. You have to be willing to speed, and, for your own sake, to thread the needle on the right handed lanes just to get away from the dangerous congestion. And yes, speeds of 80+ mph are typical.

    The real problem on highways are drivers who take it personally, i.e., the guy driving at 5 mph over the speed limit in the fast lane who refuses to drive any faster because it is the Law, or the other driver who tailgates within six feet of the guy in front of him, thinking this will cause them to finally get out of the fast lane. It never works: the guy in front slows down, and then you have some more dangerous congestion.

    Two lane blacktops are a special case; you can usually tell when the guy behind you is in a hurry, and if he is, it won’t hurt to pull over and let him pass. But people rarely do that. The result is another long caravan of tail-gaters.

  23. @Sunbeam
    I've seen this "reaction time" thing stated over and over in connection with intelligence.

    What are you guys talking about and how is it measured?

    Because I'm reasonably certain I can take a click initiated timer, flash a light, and measure how quickly it takes someone to click twice.

    We did that in high school, and no surprise the athletes did it best.

    So what are we talking about here?

    Reaction times refer to decision-making times, not reflexes. Ideally, the tests can separate decision times from motor skills. The results are generally that decision times provide an indication of general intelligence (‘g’).

  24. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I would be careful about this. Even the correlation between a single individual taking iq tests on different days is only about 0.9. Brain imaging techniques are notorious for being vulnerable to subtle errors in statistical interpretation. Very many of them end up being statistical artifacts. Believe it when the same algorithm works on a large independent sample from another group.

  25. @Jill
    What will become of "disparate impact" if an MRI scan is used in lieu of a written test, let's say, for a future teacher.

    Could this MRI scan overcome the SCOTUS view enunciated in 1971:

    "...absence of discriminatory intent does not redeem employment procedures or testing mechanisms that operate as 'built in headwinds' for minority groups and are unrelated to measuring job capacity."

    or will it be just be deemed another " built in headwind "?

    Jill, they’ll simply ban MRIs of heads.

  26. @AnonymousCoward
    No, they do not.

    Pacific Islanders do, however.
    • Replies: @AnonymousCoward
    Your "map" is unsourced. Stop being that guy. Grow up.
  27. @Ivy
    Hence Jared Diamond's assertions about his version of Noble Savages.

    Diamond was talking about Papua New Guinean types. The Pacific Islanders with large brains are Polynesian types.

  28. @Sunbeam
    I've seen this "reaction time" thing stated over and over in connection with intelligence.

    What are you guys talking about and how is it measured?

    Because I'm reasonably certain I can take a click initiated timer, flash a light, and measure how quickly it takes someone to click twice.

    We did that in high school, and no surprise the athletes did it best.

    So what are we talking about here?

    It’s not surprising that the athletes had the lowest times, because that task includes both reaction time and movement time, and it’s the latter that will account for most of the time– athletes presumably move more quickly and accurately.

    The classic reaction time study is set up something like this:

    The subject starts the trial holding down a button. Around the button a number of other buttons are arrayed in a semicircle, and each one has a light next to it. When a light goes off, the subject then presses the corresponding button.

    The reaction time is just the time from when the signal is given to when the subject’s finger lifts off the center/home button, not the whole time until the correct button is pressed. And it’s the reaction time that has the connection with IQ.

  29. The concept of IQ is an instance of microaggression.

    I microaggress frequently. Hal’s hierarchy:

    Peer: Get’s all my jokes. Comprehends new material w/o resorting to previously inculcated patterns.

    Typical college professor: Pretends to get my jokes. Responds to new material by associating with previously inculcated memes whether applicable or not, and is often wrong.

    Typical Man in the Street: Does not realize my jokes are jokes. Does not respond to new material due to limited number of previously inculcated memes. Always wrong.

    Typical victim of microaggression: Reacts to jokes with glares and head shakes. Does not recognize new material that is not static. Resorts to violence at slight provocation.

    Typical chimpanzee: Reacts to jokes by making jokes. Learns new material.

    Brain scan that.

    • Replies: @Truth

    Typical chimpanzee: Reacts to jokes by making jokes. Learns new material.
     
    Why is the chip the smartest person in your model?
  30. Of course, if IQ were just a delusion of white male privileged racists, it would be hard to explain how test scores could be forecast from brain scans. Slowly, however, that’s becoming more feasible to accomplish.

    Racists built the machines, wrote the software, tampered with the machines, etc.

    Racists who built the machines worked backward from test scores to get machines that deliver the results they wanted.

    Brains reflect environment, educational attainment, etc.

    Stereotype threat; oppressed minority brain activity shuts down when faced with a racist in a lab coat and his infernal contraption.

  31. Oy vey, this is scary. First the TSA body scanner exposing my tiny penis. Now brain scans exposing my low IQ. I can hear Big Brother snickering at me already.

  32. “Life is an IQ test.” One’s IQ can be determined by their actions.

  33. @Steve Sailer
    That makes sense. Adjusting for demographics, L.A. traditionally had the best drivers, and people in L.A. drive fast -- the 134 Freeway through Burbank averages 80 to 85 mph when not jammed -- I guess the point is to be aggressive but not particularly hostile.

    L.A. has never been known for good drivers. Drivers can’t get good unless they have to deal with more extreme weather, like snow and hail. Even in the “good old days” L.A. had horrible drivers compared to the East and Midwest.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I don't recall the East Coast having a reputation for good drivers. The East Coast, especially the Northeast, generally has a reputation for rude and not very good drivers.

    The Midwest generally has had no reputation for its drivers. Unsurprising considering its much lower traffic levels. It's hard to be especially good or bad when driving on empty two lane roads.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    There's more extreme weather here in New Jersey, and, having driven in Los Angeles too, I'd say the drivers are worse here. People here are generally impatient a-holes when you want to merge onto a highway, or make a left turn somewhere.
  34. http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20150413-the-downsides-of-being-clever

    Alexander Penney at MacEwan University in Canada found that those with the higher IQ did indeed feel more anxiety throughout the day. Interestingly, most worries were mundane, day-to-day concerns, though; the high-IQ students were far more likely to be replaying an awkward conversation, than asking the “big questions”. “It’s not that their worries were more profound, but they are just worrying more often about more things,” says Penney. “If something negative happened, they thought about it more.”

    There’s something to that. High IQ tends to go along with a good memory. But a good memory can be a problem as much as an asset, since you recall emotionally unpleasant events just as well as you do facts and figures.

    People who ace standard cognitive tests are in fact slightly more likely to have a “bias blind spot”. That is, they are less able to see their own flaws, even when though they are quite capable of criticising the foibles of others.

    Which sounds a lot like a certain high IQ ethnic group which shall remain nameless!

  35. @Sunbeam
    I've seen this "reaction time" thing stated over and over in connection with intelligence.

    What are you guys talking about and how is it measured?

    Because I'm reasonably certain I can take a click initiated timer, flash a light, and measure how quickly it takes someone to click twice.

    We did that in high school, and no surprise the athletes did it best.

    So what are we talking about here?

    Task: hit button when light comes on

    light comes on at time t0
    hand starts moving at time t1
    hand hits button at time t2

    t1-t0 = correlated with IQ
    t2-t1 = (I assume) correlated with being a good athlete

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    If I manage to turn off my alarm clock even before it goes off does that mean I'm a genius?
  36. GW says:

    Appropriate considering the conversation regarding Asian drivers…

    A few years back my family got to experience an Asian lady driving like this. Luckily it was at night so the roads were mostly empty; but she turned left on a red, cut us off on more than one occasion, and darted in front of us from the left lane so that she could make a right turn (three lanes over) at the last second, nearly causing a wreck which we avoided by slamming on the brakes. Even in a fit of revenge-motivated road rage I wouldn’t consider doing such a dangerous thing; but by the look on her face as she nearly hit us for the 3rd time she was doing it out of pure cluelessness.

    My dad, who is a cautious but confident and skilled driver, didn’t speed up to get around her safely (this turned out to almost be a bad idea). Had I been driving, as an aggressive driver I would have done so. Of course we wouldn’t have gotten as good a laugh as we did after we were safely away from her and I showed the Family Guy clip which mirrored our experience of a Chinawoman driver so well.

    • Replies: @donut
    Years ago when you saw a car being driven by an inconsiderate asshole you could safely assume it was a Negro , for the past few years , where I live at least, the next choice is young white female . We do have two large colleges in the town where I live so maybe the college girls are the culprits , but the last jerk who cut me off was a middle aged white guy so who knows .
  37. @Anonymous
    Yep, IQ doesn't exist.

    So it's a real pity that Harvard, Yale and all the rest don't operate an 'open admissions policy', and take in as freshman all those who show up.

    Which would actually be a good thing.

    Although, an open hiring policy for professors which would give positions to those not part of the liberal mafia would be even better.

  38. @MarkinLA
    I believe studies by insurance companies show that the slightly aggressive driver to be the safest of all. Asians drive like they are afraid and are always giving others the right of way even when they have it lawfully. This screws up other drivers who expect them to act as everybody else.

    Exactly! I’ve joked with my wife regarding other drivers to wit, “I’ve already taken into my predictive driving algorithm the assumption that you’re an assh*le and adjusted my anticipations accordingly. The fact that you turned out to be nice just screwed up everything and pissed me off!”

  39. IQ is worthless if there is atomistic individualism. Who is winning the demographic war? In Europe, in america?

    • Replies: @rod1963
    Yep, that's the bald faced truth of it.

    Whites are fragmented and often fight among one another, most no longer have a sense of tradition, community, clan or tribe. Even the notion of family is dying among them. Their amoral high IQ brothers in Silicon Valley and Wall Street have worked very hard to destroy us demographically because it makes them just that much richer.

    It's amusing in way, HBD'ers embracing IQ as the end all and be all and turn a blind eye to the financial and cultural a** raping the people they admire gives them on a daily basis.
  40. This is fascinating. Perhaps MRI scans can be used to determine if the macro appearance of the cerebral cortex is different in high-IQ people than a control group of average IQ people. As far as I can tell, only a single study like this has been done, but I cannot find the link. Studies have shown smarter people have bigger brains, but there are exceptions like Einstein who only had a 1200 cc brain, which is slightly below average. maybe IQ can be predicted by the convolutions of the gyri , and length of the the brain, with smarter people having a longer brain with deeper, more convoluted foldings. If there are obvious, statistically significant macro differences, it would lend considerable credence to IQ being a congenital, biological trait with physical manifestations, not merely an ‘environmental construct’.

  41. @MarkinLA
    I believe studies by insurance companies show that the slightly aggressive driver to be the safest of all. Asians drive like they are afraid and are always giving others the right of way even when they have it lawfully. This screws up other drivers who expect them to act as everybody else.

    Whoa. Down is the LA area they are not the docile drivers you claim. They drive just like they do back in their home countries. Pull right out in front of you. They expect you to react to them

  42. @ grey enlightenment: environmentalists will argue that the visible differences in brain structure are only the result of environmental influences like being poor etc. They will of course be wrong, but how should one proof it? only proof would be MRI´s of newborns, but with current technology such MRI´s of new borns will not be available, as for children up to certain age a MRI requires general anesthesia and the risks of such an anesthesia cannot be justified by scientific interest.

  43. Off topic Sailer bait:

    http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20150414/news/150419434/

    Asian-American twins with “years of practice” both get perfect ACT scores.

    So you’ve got heredity, standardized testing, and tiger-mothering. All that’s missing is Ramzan Kadyrov.

  44. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:

    Some people say gender is ‘fluid’ but that doesn’t mean most people have ‘fluid’ genders. 97% of people are pretty sure they are women or men.

    Also, all of knowledge can be said to be ‘fluid’ since people interpret things differently. Even ‘murder’ and ‘rape’ are fluid since what some call ‘murder’, others call ‘execution’ or ‘justifiable homicide’. And we know ‘rape’ is ‘fluid’ since some feminists call EVERYTHING ‘rape’.

    Since there’s disagreements among scientists, we might as well say science is ‘fluid’ and make way for Creationism. If everything is ‘fluid’, and we should respect ‘fluidity’, then any scientific theory should be accepted as right. I mean if an anus is ‘fluidly’ a sex organ, then anything can ‘fluidly’ be anything.

    In any case, when it comes to actual bodily FLUIDS, I think sperm comes from the male sex organ.

  45. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Hare Krishna
    L.A. has never been known for good drivers. Drivers can't get good unless they have to deal with more extreme weather, like snow and hail. Even in the "good old days" L.A. had horrible drivers compared to the East and Midwest.

    I don’t recall the East Coast having a reputation for good drivers. The East Coast, especially the Northeast, generally has a reputation for rude and not very good drivers.

    The Midwest generally has had no reputation for its drivers. Unsurprising considering its much lower traffic levels. It’s hard to be especially good or bad when driving on empty two lane roads.

    • Replies: @Yngvar
    I read somewhere (in the Economist, maybe) that Wyoming had the highest per capita road fatalities. Mostly due to all the out-of-stater's falling asleep at the wheel while driving through the state on their way from one coast to the other.

    The long stretches... *yawn* ...when nothing happens, and it's... *yaaawn* ...nothing to see, really makes yo...zzzzz
    , @Hare Krishna
    Not all of the Midwest is rural.

    In my own personal experience driving in many parts of the US, Los Angeles has the absolute worst drivers, as does Southern California in general. In California and the Southwest, the farther away you go from Los Angeles, the better the drivers are. The Bay Area's superior to L.A. in driving as in everything else. The Midwest has good drivers, as does the East. The absolute best drivers I've encountered in the US are in Maryland and Pennsylvania. In general warm weather makes for terrible drivers. South Florida's pretty terrible, too.

    I'm not familiar enough with the South to judge.
  46. Steve, any thoughts on the DEA sex scandal?

  47. @Neoconned
    http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2015/04/10/judge-slams-victims-tots-black-men-fear/25581605/

    Off topic: a white family suffers a home invasion and is held at gun point by two black robbers. The three year old girl is traumatized and still fears black males. The response by the judge?

    He rips into the family for "racism" in court and on his Facebook page, then lets the armed robber who pled guilty to armed robbery off on PROBATION!

    Your link is to a shocking story – shocking on many counts to an Australian concerned that ignorant or supine Attorney’s-General let Australians be extradited!
    1. Elected judge
    2. Judge using social media except in a completely innocuous private way with friends
    3. The lack of cognitive ability which allowed him to interpret the victim statement in the way he did
    4. The use of victim statements as if the victims feelings should have some impact on sentencing – a fashion, supported by legislation, which we btought in in Victoria (state) over my resistance > 20 years ago in the form of a “victim impact statement”. OK to provide outlet for victims’feelings as to 95 per cent, and educating judges 5 per cent IMO.

  48. @Sailer has an interesting life
    One more thing regarding reaction time and athletes. Several years ago when I was on a self improvement kick (and before I'd learned about Steve and HBD) I was reading up books like _Outliers_ and _Talent is overrated_. One (IMO) badly written book was (I think) _Bounce_. In it the author mentions how he and his team was administered a test on Reaction Time. Apparently the team mate who was known for having the fastest RT while playing, had the slowest reaction time on the test. The author used this anecdote as an example of how everything is possible. If you work hard enough. It's funny to look back on how one changes over time isn't it? :-)

    Note I may be misattributing the book as I don't have it any more.

    The athletic equivalent of an IQ test is the standing vertical jump: https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/429831552974225410

    Everything isn’t possible, but that doesn’t mean nothing is possible. The key, from a self-improvement perspective, is to focus on things you can improve (granted, easier said than done).

    • Replies: @Sailer has an interesting life
    Sweet! I didn't know that. :-) Yeah I guess I shouldn't have sounded so negative before. It was just that before I'd learned everything Steve talks about, I had assumed that it would be easy to fix all the worlds ills and make everyone happy and none-violent. The contrast between what I thought then and what I know to be true was so staggering, I was disheartened.
  49. @Neoconned
    http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2015/04/10/judge-slams-victims-tots-black-men-fear/25581605/

    Off topic: a white family suffers a home invasion and is held at gun point by two black robbers. The three year old girl is traumatized and still fears black males. The response by the judge?

    He rips into the family for "racism" in court and on his Facebook page, then lets the armed robber who pled guilty to armed robbery off on PROBATION!

    And what is Judge Olu Stevens’ethnicity? The report coyly avoids mentioning that interesting fact.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    There's an embedded video in the article that obviates the need to mention it.
    , @Anonymous
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ky-judge-told-parents-fostering-racist-behavior-article-1.2182039
  50. @Hare Krishna
    L.A. has never been known for good drivers. Drivers can't get good unless they have to deal with more extreme weather, like snow and hail. Even in the "good old days" L.A. had horrible drivers compared to the East and Midwest.

    There’s more extreme weather here in New Jersey, and, having driven in Los Angeles too, I’d say the drivers are worse here. People here are generally impatient a-holes when you want to merge onto a highway, or make a left turn somewhere.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    Agreed. I've driven a lot in NJ and the drivers in the NE tend to be very impatient -- I'm guessing they are late for something -- and they tend to weave in and out of traffic with no signals.

    Which is why I love this scene:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov4JvTiQWUU
  51. @Wizard of Oz
    And what is Judge Olu Stevens'ethnicity? The report coyly avoids mentioning that interesting fact.

    There’s an embedded video in the article that obviates the need to mention it.

  52. Looks like some ‘people’ in Atl tried to overcome the IQ microaggression with a little assertiveness. Judge asserted some to ten years in prison.

    Judge in Atlanta cheating case hands out stiff sentences to some educators.
    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-atlanta-teachers-sentence-deal-20150414-story.html

    The testing scandal was the worst in the nation’s history as teachers tried to increase students’ scores on the tests. A state investigation found that as early as 2005, educators gave answers to students or erased and changed answers on tests after they were turned in. Evidence of cheating was found in 44 schools, with nearly 180 educators involved. Teachers who tried to report it were threatened with retaliation.

    …because reporting fraud is microaggression.

    Pastors, family members and civil rights activists – including Andrew Young, the former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations – packed the courthouse Monday to appeal for mercy for the educators, all African Americans who had worked in low-income neighborhoods.

    Because they are GOOD people. Just starting to turn their lives around. Standing strong in the face of microaggression like standardized tests.

  53. Kangaroo Kourt Report
    “The Association of Officials and Lawyers for Animal Rights argued that Sandra, a 29-year-old orangutan who’s lived in Argentinian zoos for most of her life, is too intelligent to be considered an object. And unlike in the United States, the court actually agreed.”
    Socialism, where rights are based on IQ instead of responsibility.

    ‘There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance–that principle is contempt prior to investigation.’

    — Herbert Spencer

  54. • Replies: @Anonymous
    I love that iStock stock photo. They always use pictures like that.
  55. @Bill
    Task: hit button when light comes on

    light comes on at time t0
    hand starts moving at time t1
    hand hits button at time t2

    t1-t0 = correlated with IQ
    t2-t1 = (I assume) correlated with being a good athlete

    If I manage to turn off my alarm clock even before it goes off does that mean I’m a genius?

  56. @Dave Pinsen
    There's more extreme weather here in New Jersey, and, having driven in Los Angeles too, I'd say the drivers are worse here. People here are generally impatient a-holes when you want to merge onto a highway, or make a left turn somewhere.

    Agreed. I’ve driven a lot in NJ and the drivers in the NE tend to be very impatient — I’m guessing they are late for something — and they tend to weave in and out of traffic with no signals.

    Which is why I love this scene:

  57. @Sunbeam
    I've seen this "reaction time" thing stated over and over in connection with intelligence.

    What are you guys talking about and how is it measured?

    Because I'm reasonably certain I can take a click initiated timer, flash a light, and measure how quickly it takes someone to click twice.

    We did that in high school, and no surprise the athletes did it best.

    So what are we talking about here?

    Years age, in Moscow in the early 70’s, I visited the Soviet Amateur Rocketry Society. They had a similar gadget for testing reaction times, and thus I.Q. It was a board with randomly placed multicolored lights. There was a bank of buttons below it with a white light bulb above each switch, which lit up when the switch was pressed. Each switch button was illuminated with a different color that changed- (multicolored bulbs in the same switch). The object was speed and accuracy; i.e., the switch would have to be pressed to match whichever colored light on the board illuminated. They let me try it for a bit. Its harder than it seems, when it gets going really fast. They told me I did well.

  58. Phrenology. This has about as much promise.

    High IQ can create a big head though.

  59. “There’s something to that. High IQ tends to go along with a good memory. But a good memory can be a problem as much as an asset, since you recall emotionally unpleasant events just as well as you do facts and figures.”

    This is what alcohol is for.

    • Replies: @Sunbeam
    '“There’s something to that. High IQ tends to go along with a good memory. But a good memory can be a problem as much as an asset, since you recall emotionally unpleasant events just as well as you do facts and figures.”

    This is what alcohol is for.'

    That's another thing that confuses me. I think that I have read that alcohol consumption tends to go up with both social status and IQ (even if they are linked).

    Is this a cultural thing? Like a northern european thing? Is it a thing?

    This confuses me because it seems to fit my personal experience having sort of been in both worlds. It's also really cultural too, because in the south most people drink very little compared to other parts of the country. But the ones that do drink, drink like Russians.

    But so many posts here link a reduction in every bad habit with increased intelligence.

    There are also oddities like oriental attachment to games of chance. That doesn't seem very smart, but it is there. Along with the IQ.

  60. @countenance
    OT

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/04/10/bc-teacher-suing-false-accusations_n_7042732.html

    From this:

    The longtime teacher with a spotless record fought for his job. Ultimately, an arbitration hearing uncovered that all of the student’s claims were lifted from the TV show “Law & Order: Special Victims Unit.” The girl testified that she had watched every episode of the drama at least three times, and some as many as 10 times.

    What, not "Dawson's Creek?"

    Arizona might have something similar going on, but with John Tucker must die.

    http://www.kvoa.com/story/28731325/court-hearing-set-in-high-school-rape-investigation

  61. @Wizard of Oz
    And what is Judge Olu Stevens'ethnicity? The report coyly avoids mentioning that interesting fact.
  62. @mass immigration
    IQ is worthless if there is atomistic individualism. Who is winning the demographic war? In Europe, in america?

    Yep, that’s the bald faced truth of it.

    Whites are fragmented and often fight among one another, most no longer have a sense of tradition, community, clan or tribe. Even the notion of family is dying among them. Their amoral high IQ brothers in Silicon Valley and Wall Street have worked very hard to destroy us demographically because it makes them just that much richer.

    It’s amusing in way, HBD’ers embracing IQ as the end all and be all and turn a blind eye to the financial and cultural a** raping the people they admire gives them on a daily basis.

  63. @MarkinLA
    I believe studies by insurance companies show that the slightly aggressive driver to be the safest of all. Asians drive like they are afraid and are always giving others the right of way even when they have it lawfully. This screws up other drivers who expect them to act as everybody else.

    That isn’t the case in Southeast Asia. It’s essentially a Mad Max-type situation.

  64. I’m a bit to dumb to understand the specifics of what Steve Hsu wrote about, but he’s Chinese so I’ll trust him on his word that you can in fact predict IQ via MRI. Only questions: How early can this prediction be made? In the womb? In babies? After the brain have matured around age 21?

  65. @G Pinfold
    "There’s something to that. High IQ tends to go along with a good memory. But a good memory can be a problem as much as an asset, since you recall emotionally unpleasant events just as well as you do facts and figures."

    This is what alcohol is for.

    ‘“There’s something to that. High IQ tends to go along with a good memory. But a good memory can be a problem as much as an asset, since you recall emotionally unpleasant events just as well as you do facts and figures.”

    This is what alcohol is for.’

    That’s another thing that confuses me. I think that I have read that alcohol consumption tends to go up with both social status and IQ (even if they are linked).

    Is this a cultural thing? Like a northern european thing? Is it a thing?

    This confuses me because it seems to fit my personal experience having sort of been in both worlds. It’s also really cultural too, because in the south most people drink very little compared to other parts of the country. But the ones that do drink, drink like Russians.

    But so many posts here link a reduction in every bad habit with increased intelligence.

    There are also oddities like oriental attachment to games of chance. That doesn’t seem very smart, but it is there. Along with the IQ.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    It may be partly a climate thing. Drinking seems to be common in places with cold winters.
  66. @Michelle
    Anecdotal evidence, and my own lyin' eyes, would contradict the claim of any visual/spatial superiority on the part of the Chinese. They are absolutely the worst drivers of all time and should not be allowed to wash cars much less drive them. Why do the Japanese pay Western race car drivers to drive their cars?? Hmmm...

    “Why do the Japanese pay Western race car drivers to drive their cars??”

    Money. The TV-viewers wants someone they can identify with. Nobody cares that much about the make and models of the cars unless the rice rocket is driven by someone you can look up to or be inspired by. And the consumers with money and interest in racing are mainly in the West.

  67. @Anon
    http://wpo.st/c3sC0

    I love that iStock stock photo. They always use pictures like that.

  68. In my experience Thai women are surprisingly good drivers.

  69. @Neoconned
    http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2015/04/10/judge-slams-victims-tots-black-men-fear/25581605/

    Off topic: a white family suffers a home invasion and is held at gun point by two black robbers. The three year old girl is traumatized and still fears black males. The response by the judge?

    He rips into the family for "racism" in court and on his Facebook page, then lets the armed robber who pled guilty to armed robbery off on PROBATION!

    Look on the bright side. That little girl just became a Republican for life.

  70. @Anonymous
    I don't recall the East Coast having a reputation for good drivers. The East Coast, especially the Northeast, generally has a reputation for rude and not very good drivers.

    The Midwest generally has had no reputation for its drivers. Unsurprising considering its much lower traffic levels. It's hard to be especially good or bad when driving on empty two lane roads.

    I read somewhere (in the Economist, maybe) that Wyoming had the highest per capita road fatalities. Mostly due to all the out-of-stater’s falling asleep at the wheel while driving through the state on their way from one coast to the other.

    The long stretches… *yawn* …when nothing happens, and it’s… *yaaawn* …nothing to see, really makes yo…zzzzz

    • Replies: @Ivy
    And in WY you get to dodge tumbleweeds, too.

    At least the scenery to the south (Medicine Bow Mountains) and west (Rockies, Tetons, Wind River Range) is pretty good.
  71. @Sunbeam
    '“There’s something to that. High IQ tends to go along with a good memory. But a good memory can be a problem as much as an asset, since you recall emotionally unpleasant events just as well as you do facts and figures.”

    This is what alcohol is for.'

    That's another thing that confuses me. I think that I have read that alcohol consumption tends to go up with both social status and IQ (even if they are linked).

    Is this a cultural thing? Like a northern european thing? Is it a thing?

    This confuses me because it seems to fit my personal experience having sort of been in both worlds. It's also really cultural too, because in the south most people drink very little compared to other parts of the country. But the ones that do drink, drink like Russians.

    But so many posts here link a reduction in every bad habit with increased intelligence.

    There are also oddities like oriental attachment to games of chance. That doesn't seem very smart, but it is there. Along with the IQ.

    It may be partly a climate thing. Drinking seems to be common in places with cold winters.

  72. @GW
    Appropriate considering the conversation regarding Asian drivers...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjkkjH0GnfY

    A few years back my family got to experience an Asian lady driving like this. Luckily it was at night so the roads were mostly empty; but she turned left on a red, cut us off on more than one occasion, and darted in front of us from the left lane so that she could make a right turn (three lanes over) at the last second, nearly causing a wreck which we avoided by slamming on the brakes. Even in a fit of revenge-motivated road rage I wouldn't consider doing such a dangerous thing; but by the look on her face as she nearly hit us for the 3rd time she was doing it out of pure cluelessness.

    My dad, who is a cautious but confident and skilled driver, didn't speed up to get around her safely (this turned out to almost be a bad idea). Had I been driving, as an aggressive driver I would have done so. Of course we wouldn't have gotten as good a laugh as we did after we were safely away from her and I showed the Family Guy clip which mirrored our experience of a Chinawoman driver so well.

    Years ago when you saw a car being driven by an inconsiderate asshole you could safely assume it was a Negro , for the past few years , where I live at least, the next choice is young white female . We do have two large colleges in the town where I live so maybe the college girls are the culprits , but the last jerk who cut me off was a middle aged white guy so who knows .

    • Replies: @Truth

    Years ago when you saw a car being driven by an inconsiderate asshole you could safely assume it was a Negro... the next choice is young white female . ..but the last jerk who cut me off was a middle aged white guy so who knows .
     
    You might want to sit down for this, Sport.

    The world hasn't changed, you're just becoming a Lib-urr-uhl.
  73. @Anonymous
    I don't recall the East Coast having a reputation for good drivers. The East Coast, especially the Northeast, generally has a reputation for rude and not very good drivers.

    The Midwest generally has had no reputation for its drivers. Unsurprising considering its much lower traffic levels. It's hard to be especially good or bad when driving on empty two lane roads.

    Not all of the Midwest is rural.

    In my own personal experience driving in many parts of the US, Los Angeles has the absolute worst drivers, as does Southern California in general. In California and the Southwest, the farther away you go from Los Angeles, the better the drivers are. The Bay Area’s superior to L.A. in driving as in everything else. The Midwest has good drivers, as does the East. The absolute best drivers I’ve encountered in the US are in Maryland and Pennsylvania. In general warm weather makes for terrible drivers. South Florida’s pretty terrible, too.

    I’m not familiar enough with the South to judge.

  74. Marty [AKA "mel belli"] says:
    @Michelle
    Anecdotal evidence, and my own lyin' eyes, would contradict the claim of any visual/spatial superiority on the part of the Chinese. They are absolutely the worst drivers of all time and should not be allowed to wash cars much less drive them. Why do the Japanese pay Western race car drivers to drive their cars?? Hmmm...

    The claim that Chinese drivers are “the worst,” is outdated. I actually heard a carrot-topped Irish kid say exactly that in traffic school in SF in 1990. The asians in the room took it with relatively good humor in that pre-PC day. But with smart phones and huge SUV’s, I think arrogant multi-tasking swpl women create more problems than timid asians. If you want to be an aggressive, le mans-style lane weaver, come to SF. The cops just don’t care, or possibly don’t come to work at all.

  75. @countenance
    OT

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/04/10/bc-teacher-suing-false-accusations_n_7042732.html

    From this:

    The longtime teacher with a spotless record fought for his job. Ultimately, an arbitration hearing uncovered that all of the student’s claims were lifted from the TV show “Law & Order: Special Victims Unit.” The girl testified that she had watched every episode of the drama at least three times, and some as many as 10 times.

    What, not "Dawson's Creek?"

    This was high school, Dawson’s Creek is for college kids.

  76. @Anonymous
    Actually they do:

    http://mapsontheweb.zoom-maps.com/post/105271679688/world-brain-size-map-map-over-cranial-capacity-in

    Your “map” is unsourced. Stop being that guy. Grow up.

  77. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The authors of that MRI study in PLOS are:

    Liye Wang,
    Chong-Yaw Wee,
    Heung-Il Suk,
    Xiaoying Tang,
    Dinggang Shen

    Affiliations aren’t listed, but the work was “…partially funded by the National Natural Science Foundation of China”.

    Good thing someone somewhere is probably looking into these things, even better that they aren’t white or the neo-(Jesuits-of-Galileo’s-era) might get them. What was that? But it does move? No defense.

    IQ Flat Earthers abound and they’re serious as sin.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Liye Wang,
    Chong-Yaw Wee,
    Heung-Il Suk,
    Xiaoying Tang,
    Dinggang Shen

     

    Why am I suddenly transported to this scene?
  78. @Hal
    The concept of IQ is an instance of microaggression.

    I microaggress frequently. Hal's hierarchy:

    Peer: Get's all my jokes. Comprehends new material w/o resorting to previously inculcated patterns.

    Typical college professor: Pretends to get my jokes. Responds to new material by associating with previously inculcated memes whether applicable or not, and is often wrong.

    Typical Man in the Street: Does not realize my jokes are jokes. Does not respond to new material due to limited number of previously inculcated memes. Always wrong.

    Typical victim of microaggression: Reacts to jokes with glares and head shakes. Does not recognize new material that is not static. Resorts to violence at slight provocation.

    Typical chimpanzee: Reacts to jokes by making jokes. Learns new material.

    Brain scan that.

    Typical chimpanzee: Reacts to jokes by making jokes. Learns new material.

    Why is the chip the smartest person in your model?

    • Replies: @donut
    Uh oh , more left arm discomfort .
  79. @donut
    Years ago when you saw a car being driven by an inconsiderate asshole you could safely assume it was a Negro , for the past few years , where I live at least, the next choice is young white female . We do have two large colleges in the town where I live so maybe the college girls are the culprits , but the last jerk who cut me off was a middle aged white guy so who knows .

    Years ago when you saw a car being driven by an inconsiderate asshole you could safely assume it was a Negro… the next choice is young white female . ..but the last jerk who cut me off was a middle aged white guy so who knows .

    You might want to sit down for this, Sport.

    The world hasn’t changed, you’re just becoming a Lib-urr-uhl.

  80. @anonymous
    The authors of that MRI study in PLOS are:

    Liye Wang,
    Chong-Yaw Wee,
    Heung-Il Suk,
    Xiaoying Tang,
    Dinggang Shen

    Affiliations aren't listed, but the work was "...partially funded by the National Natural Science Foundation of China".


    Good thing someone somewhere is probably looking into these things, even better that they aren't white or the neo-(Jesuits-of-Galileo's-era) might get them. What was that? But it does move? No defense.

    IQ Flat Earthers abound and they're serious as sin.

    Liye Wang,
    Chong-Yaw Wee,
    Heung-Il Suk,
    Xiaoying Tang,
    Dinggang Shen

    Why am I suddenly transported to this scene?

  81. Even if it has nothing to do with “Estimating iq with brain scans” the topic of driving and skills have dominated this thread. That reminds me (we all have our personal stories that we want to peddle at ISteve, don’t we?) about news reports in my local media concerning some disaster that had happened in the Indian sub-continent. Mind you, this was long ago, when I was young, and the news was always about some ethnic or sectarian strife the people there were engaged in. It got boring, so the young me made up a joke about this kind of news, one that I remember to this day:

    “In Bangladesh today 15 people where killed when a bicycle ran off the road. A further 300 were killed in the riots that followed .”

    I suppose it’s gotten better. The roads, I mean.

  82. @Truth

    Typical chimpanzee: Reacts to jokes by making jokes. Learns new material.
     
    Why is the chip the smartest person in your model?

    Uh oh , more left arm discomfort .

  83. @Dave Pinsen
    The athletic equivalent of an IQ test is the standing vertical jump: https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/429831552974225410

    Everything isn't possible, but that doesn't mean nothing is possible. The key, from a self-improvement perspective, is to focus on things you can improve (granted, easier said than done).

    Sweet! I didn’t know that. 🙂 Yeah I guess I shouldn’t have sounded so negative before. It was just that before I’d learned everything Steve talks about, I had assumed that it would be easy to fix all the worlds ills and make everyone happy and none-violent. The contrast between what I thought then and what I know to be true was so staggering, I was disheartened.

  84. @Sunbeam
    I've seen this "reaction time" thing stated over and over in connection with intelligence.

    What are you guys talking about and how is it measured?

    Because I'm reasonably certain I can take a click initiated timer, flash a light, and measure how quickly it takes someone to click twice.

    We did that in high school, and no surprise the athletes did it best.

    So what are we talking about here?
  85. @ Dave Pinsen:
    high jump from a standing position as general factor g for sports ability? thats interesting, because this would mean that westafricans would be by far the worlds best athletes. But this not really seems to be the case, as there are some sports whites are clearly better at

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    There's probably no equivalent of the g factor for all sports, but the SVJ is close to one for those that involve sprinting and jumping. But the reason I felt it was analogous to an IQ test is the extent to which it's genetically determined.
  86. @Yngvar
    I read somewhere (in the Economist, maybe) that Wyoming had the highest per capita road fatalities. Mostly due to all the out-of-stater's falling asleep at the wheel while driving through the state on their way from one coast to the other.

    The long stretches... *yawn* ...when nothing happens, and it's... *yaaawn* ...nothing to see, really makes yo...zzzzz

    And in WY you get to dodge tumbleweeds, too.

    At least the scenery to the south (Medicine Bow Mountains) and west (Rockies, Tetons, Wind River Range) is pretty good.

  87. @Erik Sieven
    @ Dave Pinsen:
    high jump from a standing position as general factor g for sports ability? thats interesting, because this would mean that westafricans would be by far the worlds best athletes. But this not really seems to be the case, as there are some sports whites are clearly better at

    There’s probably no equivalent of the g factor for all sports, but the SVJ is close to one for those that involve sprinting and jumping. But the reason I felt it was analogous to an IQ test is the extent to which it’s genetically determined.

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