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From ESPN:

Don’t expect protests in baseball — it’s a white man’s game by design

Howard Bryant
ESPN Senior Writer

… San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick didn’t start this referendum, but he has become, like Crispus Attucks or Curt Flood or Rodney King, the flashpoint of a reckoning much larger than himself and long overdue. He stood up by kneeling down, and not only has he yet to move, but others — many black men and at least one white woman, soccer player Megan Rapinoe — are now kneeling with him.

These are the gestures we say we respect: the tough, uncompromising American virtue of commitment and conviction, of making it plain in the face of opposition and being right. Adam Jones, the brilliant Baltimore Orioles center fielder, also made it plain that baseball, the original civil rights sport with the deepest connection to the American story of sports and social justice, won’t willingly be one of the fronts where the battle is fought. Baseball, Jones said, is not the black-dominated world of football or basketball, saying that the game lacks the untouchable wealth of black superstar power, and even a reputable volume of rank and file for it to support a similar form of protest. In demographic and attitude, Jones said baseball is “a white man’s game.”

“Brilliant” is a bit of a stretch for Adam Jones, who is getting paid $16 million this season to play centerfield and hit about 3% better than the league average (OPS+ of 103). “Adequate” or perhaps “proficient” might be more accurate.

Instead, the baseball industry has essentially confirmed Jones’ suspicions through a deafening silence of incuriosity that further severs it from its groundbreaking past, and the truth of the matter is sinking into the soil: Baseball is a white man’s game, and is so by the specific design of the people who run it. In a country full of world-class black athletes, baseball cannot seem to attract many. Nothing Jones said is statistically, factually or anecdotally remarkable except for that he took the remarkable step of actually saying it.

Major League Baseball is 8 percent African-American and more than 30 percent Latino, signed in large numbers for pennies on the dollar. Economically, Latino players are treated as far more disposable than Americans or players from the Asian market, and have been treated with second-class attitudes for just as long.

Baseball has never been very good at evolution or change. The game has two black managers, no black owners and one black general manager. It has one Latino owner, no Latino managers and one Latino general manager. …

“Moneyball”

The game has cultivated the front-office posture of a Fortune 500 company, placing another barrier to advancement for people of color by preferring young, often unproven Ivy League talent over people of color who have deep institutional knowledge of how baseball works and is played but now lack the graduate degrees that have become the new prerequisite.

In other words, the Moneyball revolution has led to the hiring for front office jobs of a lot more guys who look like Jonah Hill than guys who look like Howard Bryant. But Mr. Bryant’s anger at all the Jonah Hill-types now getting front office jobs isn’t anti-Semtitic, so don’t get mad at him. He’s anti-white, so that means he is good.

… The game is rooted in its anachronisms. Even its coded language — play the game the right way — repels the stylish flairs of a modern player, kids raised in a time of selfies and TV highlights. Unlike football and basketball, which have better adapted to the people who play, making it more attractive to younger players, baseball forces its strict, traditional culture on kids born in the 1990s and 2000s.

The best baseball player of this decade is Mike Trout, who is headed for having the highest Wins Above Replacement statistic in American League for the fifth consecutive season. Trout just turned 25, so he is on pace to be one of the top ten players ever, perhaps the best.

But that just shows how racist baseball is.

 
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  1. Colin Kaepernick = Rodney King? LOL!

    • Replies: @boogerbently
    @Broski

    Showing they dislike and distrust America shows why we distrust and dislike them.

    If I were an owner, I would sit out any "protester" in such a way that he didn't get paid.
    Make such political statements against club policy.
    Of course, I'm against them chimping out after good plays, too.

  2. ESPN.com has gone full SJW over the past couple years. I’ve read less and less as it’s happened. I’m not the only one. Looks like the past year has seen it fall about 140 spots in terms of worldwide popularity from 110ish to 248.

    http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/espn.go.com

    After this article, I think I’m ready to switch – after 17 years of ESPN.com as one of my top bookmarks – to SI.com.

    • Replies: @SnakeEyes
    @Jonah

    I very recently made exactly the same decision myself for the same reasons.

    Replies: @William BadWhite

    , @aNONYMous
    @Jonah

    It seems like almost any publication you pick up has this same tone now.

    It doesn't matter if it's a magazine about archaeology or a copy of Cat Fancy…. They all seem to shoehorn identity politics into the stories and columns somehow.

    More than anything, I just find it very weird. Maybe about five years or so ago, all sorts of stuff happening in the culture has started making me feel like something has changed dramatically.

    It was always there, but more of a subculture around universities and political gays. But it has become so prevalent now. Even my parents small town newspaper reads like a copy of some sociology trade publication.

    I can't explain why this has happened so suddenly. I feel uneasy about it all (I guess that's the point…to make me uneasy) I can't see anything good coming from it all.

    It makes for dull reading too.

    Replies: @TheBoom, @AndrewR, @ogunsiron, @bomag

    , @Jokah Macpherson
    @Jonah

    Yeah, I basically quit going to the site around two years ago because it was getting so stupid. And it went full SJW so fast too.

    Anyways, glad they're suffering consequences.

    , @Carbon blob
    @Jonah

    For me SI has the same problems. Fox Sports would be my go-to site if the design weren't so clunky.

    Thankfully ESPNFC is largely free of the SJW nonsense that has infested the rest of the site.

    , @The preferred nomenclature is...
    @Jonah

    Trust me si.com is just as bad. Major sports in the FUSA should be dead to any self respecting White Man.

    Replies: @Connecticut Famer

    , @young_american
    @Jonah

    All the mainstream sites are garbage. Just go to fangraphs.

    , @Marty T
    @Jonah

    SI had Bruce "Caitlyn" Jenner on the cover. ALL sports media is infected with leftism. ALL of it. Just as the sports leagues are (or at least the suits who make the decisions). The NCAA moved all its tournament games out of North Carolina in its attempt to defeat a governor who wants separate bathrooms for men and women.

    Its getting the point where if the Muslims take over, we'll deserve it.

  3. baseball, the original civil rights sport with the deepest connection to the American story of sports and social justice, won’t willingly be one of the fronts where the battle is fought.

    What “battle”?

    Look, if White people in baseball are so bad, let’s give blacks their own league.

    • LOL: ben tillman
    • Replies: @TheBoom
    @Anonymous

    "Look, if White people in baseball are so bad, let’s give blacks their own league."

    Novel idea. But in search of fairness should a white player try to integrate them?

    , @Truth
    @Anonymous




    Look, if White people in baseball are so bad, let’s give blacks their own league.
     
    LOL, "we" had one, dumbshit, "you" signed all of the players.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @The most deplorable one

  4. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Incidentally, I don’t recall pro sporting events being total patrio-tard fests during the 90s and earlier decades. Now, you go to a ball game, and you have to stand every other inning for some tribute to this or that military personnel or vets.

    I dislike Kapernick and the protests, and I’m all for saluting the flag and anthem and all that, but pro games have definitely changed in the direction of excessive flag/military worship over the past decade.

    • Agree: gruff, slumber_j
    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    @Anonymous

    The Pentagon was revealed to be paying for much of it.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/05/454834662/pentagon-paid-sports-teams-millions-for-paid-patriotism-events

    While millennia of Anglo-Saxon tradition casts aspersions toward a standing army, the Average Joe conservative of today regards the military as one of the only institutions in society to maintain "purity". Facts, such as the fact that the military has long been a pit of leftist social engineering, are thrown out in favor of the pageantry.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @DCThrowback, @peterike, @John Mansfield

  5. I love how baseball having no black owners is proof of discrimination, unlike the NFL or NBA, which have….wait for it…no black owners either. The lack of managers and GM’s in MLB is simply a result of their being fewer and fewer black American ballplayers in baseball almost every year since the early 1990’s, does he really believe managers don’t come from the ranks of former players? It’s amazing this guy can’t connect the dots.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Unladen Swallow

    Almost half the NBA owners are Jewish:

    "Why Are So Many Pro Basketball Owners Jewish (Like Donald Sterling)?"

    http://forward.com/news/israel/197643/why-are-so-many-pro-basketball-owners-jewish-like/


    .There are only three Jewish players in the NBA, and no Jewish head coaches. Yet nearly half the principal owners of NBA teams are Jewish, as are the league’s current commissioner and its immediate past commissioner.

    No other major pro league in the United States has such a high proportion of Jewish owners. The NFL comes closest: Roughly a third of that league’s owners are Jewish. Just a handful of pro baseball and hockey owners are Jews.
     

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @snorlax, @ScarletNumber, @Brutusale, @ben tillman

    , @AndrewR
    @Unladen Swallow

    You think he was hired and promoted based on his critical thinking skills?

    , @ThisIsMadness
    @Unladen Swallow

    Amen. Connecting dots requires critical thinking, and that seems to be in short supply everywhere.

    Baseball has, for years, been trying to figure out how to increase the number of black baseball players. If you look at the statistics, there are fewer baseball fields (and fields in general) in an inner city environment. Black youth practically have no outlet other than basketball and football. Ok, throw in Track and Field. What is the answer? Forced integration? Hail Jackie Robinson and Larry Doby. Black youth's have to want to play baseball. I have found memories of playing catch with my dad. It is something that I still like to do, and I do with my own son's. BUT, that requires having a father figure and a complete family unit which is a conversation that no one wants to have.

  6. • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Anonymous

    The white privilege was strong with Chan Ho Park.

  7. Yet another relatively intelligent, well compensated Negro hammering home the point: You owe us, and infinity isn’t enough, White boy.

    Words are like currency — they are subject to inflation. In that regard Negro complaints are akin to the Zimbabwean dollar. Worthless.

    Infinity isn’t enough, so zero should do just fine.

    Give a shrug, my fellow deplorables. Then laugh when the world crashes at your feet.

    • Agree: SPMoore8
  8. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    It’s obvious that the pro & collegiate sports have been weaponized by the left. Now your favorite team is a cudgel.

    Q: “Can’t we just enjoy the game?”

    A: “No. This is Marxism. It isn’t a game.”

    We are only one more financial crisis away from civil breakdown where historically the tyrants have made their move.

  9. … The game is rooted in its anachronisms. Even its coded language — play the game the right way — repels the stylish flairs of a modern player, kids raised in a time of selfies and TV highlights. Unlike football and basketball, which have better adapted to the people who play, making it more attractive to younger players, baseball forces its strict, traditional culture on kids born in the 1990s and 2000s.

    There’s an anachronism here alright, but it’s not baseball:

    http://www.cincyjungle.com/2016/9/12/12892264/jeremy-hill-shaking-hands-instead-of-dancing

    What happens to the CURRENT_YEAR cultists when the wind shifts direction?

  10. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Unladen Swallow
    I love how baseball having no black owners is proof of discrimination, unlike the NFL or NBA, which have....wait for it...no black owners either. The lack of managers and GM's in MLB is simply a result of their being fewer and fewer black American ballplayers in baseball almost every year since the early 1990's, does he really believe managers don't come from the ranks of former players? It's amazing this guy can't connect the dots.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AndrewR, @ThisIsMadness

    Almost half the NBA owners are Jewish:

    “Why Are So Many Pro Basketball Owners Jewish (Like Donald Sterling)?”

    http://forward.com/news/israel/197643/why-are-so-many-pro-basketball-owners-jewish-like/

    .There are only three Jewish players in the NBA, and no Jewish head coaches. Yet nearly half the principal owners of NBA teams are Jewish, as are the league’s current commissioner and its immediate past commissioner.

    No other major pro league in the United States has such a high proportion of Jewish owners. The NFL comes closest: Roughly a third of that league’s owners are Jewish. Just a handful of pro baseball and hockey owners are Jews.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    @Anonymous

    Not too long ago, we had 3/4ths Jewish commissioners. Selig (MLB), Stern (NBA), and Bettman (NHL).

    Now we have a WASP, an Irish Catholic, and two Jews. No complaints that the NFL didn't pick Rice instead of Goodell.

    Given the level of public support to pro sports, we should be insisting that the commissioner should be a federally appointed position, rather than chosen by the owners.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @Studley

    , @snorlax
    @Anonymous

    Urban whites like basketball more than rural whites.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @ScarletNumber
    @Anonymous

    The Cleveland Cavaliers had a Jewish head coach for the first half of last season before he got fired. The team was so distraught that they won the NBA title without him.

    , @Brutusale
    @Anonymous

    Dunno. Maybe we should ask Basketball Hall of Famer Abe Saperstein.

    Wife beater and professional token Howard Bryant is the last person I'd listen to on the subject.

    , @ben tillman
    @Anonymous


    .There are only three Jewish players in the NBA, and no Jewish head coaches.
     
    Say what?

    No Jewish head coaches? Did they find a five-minute window in the spring of 2014 which this might actually have been true? I don't think it was true even then, but typically about 10% of NBA head coaches are Jewish.

    Replies: @Honesthughgrant

  11. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Major League Baseball is 8 percent African-American and more than 30 percent Latino, signed in large numbers for pennies on the dollar. Economically, Latino players are treated as far more disposable than Americans or players from the Asian market, and have been treated with second-class attitudes for just as long.

    Hispanic players are just doing jobs blacks won’t do.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Anonymous

    Many of the hispanics, such as Dominicans and Cubans, are black. They actually trace their ancestry back to the slave trade like American blacks.

    , @anonymous
    @Anonymous

    If Latino players are occupying roughly 30% of the slots (abused as they are) and there are also a small amount of Canadian/japanese/etc, why would anyone feel overly bad about 8% of the players being black Americans?

    I'm bad with math, but is that wildly out of proportion? It seems about where it should be, or not terribly far off.

    And if baseball seems to register more with whites/latinos, why is this an inherently bad thing? Where is it written that all sport needs to be dominated by American blacks - numerically and culturally.

    Why is this seen as being necessary. Nobody seems to complain bitterly that the NBA needs more hispanics or whites or asians?

    If Bryant could look at the situation through someone else's eyes, he might see that he's the one who is being somewhat biased.

    , @Forbes
    @Anonymous

    Alex Rodriguez treated economically as disposable, pennies on the dollar, with second class attitude. How about Yasiel Puig, Yoenis Cespedes, Albert Pujols, David Ortiz, Robinson Cano, Felix Hernandez, Manny Ramirez, Mariano Rivera, Pedro Martinez, Carlos Delgado...

  12. Baseball, Jones said, is not the black-dominated world of football or basketball, saying that the game lacks the untouchable wealth of black superstar power, and even a reputable volume of rank and file for it to support a similar form of protest. In demographic and attitude, Jones said baseball is “a white man’s game.”

    Let’s see, we start out with “Black” as the preferred racial signifier at the beginning of the article. But then…..

    Major League Baseball is 8 percent African-American and more than 30 percent Latino,

    we shift to African-American….probably because a huge percentage of those Latinos are also Black….

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    @syonredux

    Agreed, I would say at least half of those Latino players are Blacks, mostly from the Dominican Republic, which if my humble math skills are correct means that Blacks make up 23% of all MLB players. Watch a game & tell me that ain't correct.

    , @Hibernian
    @syonredux

    I think the Hispanic players are more like 1/3 Black Hispanic than 1/2. Almost none of the American born players are Black Hispanic, and there are a fair number of American born Hispanic players.

    , @attilathehen
    @syonredux

    Good point about "Hispanics." Most are blacks from Cuba, the Dominican Republic. A-Rod is a light-skinned DR. So baseball is very black too.

  13. “Trout just turned 25, so he is on pace to be one of the top ten players ever, perhaps the best.”

    Lots of players have had that written about them early in their careers. An MLB career is a marathon, not a sprint.

    “But that just shows how racist baseball is.”

    Of course, Bryant has the perfect comeback: “What color is Trout? He’s not black, is he?”

    That’s of course how he will respond.

  14. What’s going on with sports this year is even enough to penetrate the cuck hivemind (then again, even a stopped clock is right twice a day): http://www.nationalreview.com/article/440002/ncaa-north-carolina-boycott-progressives-weaponizing-sports

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas
    @Thomas

    A non-cucked governor could call the NCAA's bluff and whip the legislature to revoke the NCAA's authorization to conduct business in the State.

    Perhaps a letter along the lines of "We regret your decision to cease conducting business in the Tar Heel State. Accordingly, and in conformity with your wishes, we have revoked the NCAA's authorization to conduct business in North Carolina. All North Carolina Public Universities have hereby been withdrawn from the NCAA. To the extent that North Carolina's private Universities wish to remain member institutions in the NCAA, our legislature has withdrawn State funding and State nonprofit status from said institutions. NCAA merchandise sold in North Carolina by third party vendors is now subject to a sales tax of 80% of its market value. The North Carolina Department of Public Safety has revoked the authority of the NCAA to sanction athletic events within the State of North Carolina . . . "

    These punks get away with this bullshit because they get to pick and choose flagship events on which to grandstand while still reaping the benefits of conducting business in the States that they're protesting.

    Replies: @Marty T

  15. a deafening silence of incuriosity — The author is the kind of guy who thinks this kind of writing makes sense and marks him as an intellectual. It makes him sound pretentious and rather silly. There are several other examples in the article, e.g., “soil”? As in “ground”? Please.

    Actually I read the ballplayer’s comments and I think what he meant to say is that there won’t be any Kaepernick’s in baseball because it is dominated by whites, in a way that neither football or basketball are. However, because his reasoning is as casual and as loud as his clothes, he just said, “It’s a white man’s game.” There’s nothing deep here.

    Thus:

    saying that the game lacks the untouchable wealth of black superstar power

    He didn’t say that, and if there was a black guy who could pitch like Kershaw or hit like Trout he’d be lionized. As it is, McCutcheon is rightly praised but he’s just not that great.

    play the game the right way — repels the stylish flairs of a modern player, kids raised in a time of selfies and TV highlights

    So, in other words, baseball doesn’t have as much showboating and histrionics as the NBA and the NFL, which black people are really good at. Point taken. Point also not wanted.

    • Agree: BenKenobi
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @SPMoore8

    That's a common feature of professional black writing and speech. There are all kinds of locutions, metaphors, and allusions used that make no sense semantically.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Bugg

    , @guest
    @SPMoore8

    The game lacks the untouchable wealth of black superstar power, whatever that means, now. But remember when they spent, oh, 10 years never shutting up about Barry Bonds? Was that because he was a white guy in disguise?

    Wait, has anyone ever seen Mark McGwire in the same stadium? Conspiracy!

    Wait again, maybe the steroids turned him white. Shrunk his...you know what? I don't want to talk about this anymore.

    , @Brutusale
    @SPMoore8

    Showboating in baseball still carries risk. Oops, that 98 mph fastball got away from me!

    Replies: @Abe

    , @Abe
    @SPMoore8


    a deafening silence of incuriosity — The author is the kind of guy who thinks this kind of writing makes sense and marks him as an intellectual. It makes him sound pretentious and rather silly. There are several other examples in the article, e.g., “soil”? As in “ground”? Please.
     
    Charles Blow does the same thing. Corey Booker a slightly-less embarrassing version. And, of course, Big Daddy Obama got it started with his "audacity of hope". SWPL antinomy, largely to hide the fact that our best-n-brightest Millennials are still- well, Millenials. To cover the fact they're iPhone-addicted, Internet TV binge-watching couch potato slobs who can't even finish a Teddy Roosevelt biography, let alone accomplish 1/20 of what that man did.

    "Hey, Obama, how's that asbestos removal going? Think you're really making a difference in the lives of our inner-city young?"
    "I'm hopeful. Audaciously so, in fact!"

    I think it started a bit in feminist victimological discourse too- "We're fierce rape survivors, etc."
  16. “Major League Baseball is 8 percent African-American and more than 30 percent Latino, signed in large numbers for pennies on the dollar. Economically, Latino players are treated as far more disposable than Americans or players from the Asian market, and have been treated with second-class attitudes for just as long.”

    At least one MLB player’s parents moved him to Latin America before he was eligible for the draft specifically so that he negotiate deal rather than be subject to the draft.

  17. I enjoy the discomfort of White sports-cucks.

    All these White guys who have poured billions of dollars and tons of attention into games now dominated by Blacks.

    Nothing sillier than a White guy going all gaga over his latest Black sports crush. And now the Blacks are increasingly disrespecting the country these White Cucks claim to love. Sets up an interesting conflict!

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @AndyBoy

    "When you realize what a joke everything is, being The Comedian is the only thing that makes sense."

    , @David In TN
    @AndyBoy

    "I enjoy the discomfort of White sports-cucks."

    Yes, the cucks tend to be big sports fans. Hero-worship of black athletes in particular is a favorite trope with them.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @Clyde
    @AndyBoy

    Lol and excellent take. I feel the same way and have no interest in sports that are dominated by blacks. I lost interest in marathon running when the Ethiopians and similar starting taking over.
    Lacrosse for 10 year olds must be up and coming. Maybe done for college scholarships? Last week I saw an organized game being played complete with helmets and team uniforms. White boys along with a surprising number of black boys. Lacrosse is perceived as an upper class game, I was thinking this is the gimmick.

  18. Major League Baseball is 8 percent African-American and more than 30 percent Latino

    It seems this guy wants more black ballplayers. Who is more underrepresented in baseball, Anerican blacks or American Whites? Anyone know?

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    @Anonymous

    Many Hispanics are blacks from the Dominican Republic.

    Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown

    , @Lurker
    @Anonymous

    I think, very roughly, whites are represented as per the general population, blacks somewhat below and Latinos way over-represented.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  19. @Jonah
    ESPN.com has gone full SJW over the past couple years. I've read less and less as it's happened. I'm not the only one. Looks like the past year has seen it fall about 140 spots in terms of worldwide popularity from 110ish to 248.

    http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/espn.go.com

    After this article, I think I'm ready to switch - after 17 years of ESPN.com as one of my top bookmarks - to SI.com.

    Replies: @SnakeEyes, @aNONYMous, @Jokah Macpherson, @Carbon blob, @The preferred nomenclature is..., @young_american, @Marty T

    I very recently made exactly the same decision myself for the same reasons.

    • Replies: @William BadWhite
    @SnakeEyes

    SI is just as bad. I cancelled my subscription years ago but periodically would pick one up in an airport. A year or two ago I did so and sure enough, one of the first articles was lamenting the difficulties "trans-gendered" people have, so soon after the "courage of Michael Sam".

    Yeah Michael Sam was really courageous. It takes such guts to announce something that will have 1/2 the country applauding for you.

    I still follow baseball and golf but pay zero attention to the Hoodlum Football League or the Tattooed Illiterate Dunking Association.

  20. Probably one of the main reasons more blacks don’t play baseballs is that they mostly live in cities and there aren’t many baseball fields in inner cities anymore. As they get pushed out by gentrification, expect that to change.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @gruff

    With American whites being only slightly more represented in proportion to their population than American blacks, what explains why Americam whites don't play baseball anymore?

    Replies: @gruff

    , @Brutusale
    @gruff

    I don't know where you live, but the city of Boston maintains baseball fields for minority youth. The teams are mostly made up of Hispanic kids with a smattering of blacks and whites.

    My buddy, a bleeding-heart Jewish lawyer from one of Boston's wealthy "W" suburbs (the one the Red $ox's David "Big Papi" Ortiz lives in) has coached one of the teams in Boston for a couple years. Two of his three black U16 players were baby daddies. He actively pursues black kids to play, but there's little interest. He's finally willing to concede that Hispanics, culturally, are more attracted to baseball than blacks.

    Replies: @hhsiii

    , @Lazy Hero
    @gruff

    They also need an adult male to teach them the game. Need I say more...

    Additionally, MLB is the only major sport I can stomach anymore because of the primitive displays in in feetsball and b-ball, not for me. And in these 2 sports there is much racism against White players. Look up Pistol Pete Maravich and Caste Football.

    Think about this, the majority of White NBA players either come from Europe or from heavily White areas in the US. And Peyton Hillis only got to play because of injuries. No great White running backs since John Riggins, no way. They are denied...

    Why do White Men watch this racism?

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Anonymous

  21. Civilization. It’s a white man’s game by design.

  22. @SPMoore8
    a deafening silence of incuriosity -- The author is the kind of guy who thinks this kind of writing makes sense and marks him as an intellectual. It makes him sound pretentious and rather silly. There are several other examples in the article, e.g., "soil"? As in "ground"? Please.

    Actually I read the ballplayer's comments and I think what he meant to say is that there won't be any Kaepernick's in baseball because it is dominated by whites, in a way that neither football or basketball are. However, because his reasoning is as casual and as loud as his clothes, he just said, "It's a white man's game." There's nothing deep here.

    Thus:

    saying that the game lacks the untouchable wealth of black superstar power

    He didn't say that, and if there was a black guy who could pitch like Kershaw or hit like Trout he'd be lionized. As it is, McCutcheon is rightly praised but he's just not that great.

    play the game the right way — repels the stylish flairs of a modern player, kids raised in a time of selfies and TV highlights

    So, in other words, baseball doesn't have as much showboating and histrionics as the NBA and the NFL, which black people are really good at. Point taken. Point also not wanted.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @guest, @Brutusale, @Abe

    That’s a common feature of professional black writing and speech. There are all kinds of locutions, metaphors, and allusions used that make no sense semantically.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Well put. I went to integrated grade and high schools and part of every day was given over to trying to disambiguate the "locutions, metaphors and allusions" of black kids who would launch verbal tirades against their friends. Generally, they contributed little to class, but it was entertaining when they went at each other. Rap only formalized what blacks had been doing for a long time. Verbal sparring is their game, and they play no-holds-barred, which meant plenty of nonsense thrown in just because of the rhythm and rhyme of whatever musical turn of phrase was in synch with their limited grasp of a word's meaning. Very creative, in a limited way. I once heard a black kid use the term "speed thermometer" when he was referring to a speedometer. Okay--pretty clever really--but still…...I guess that learning the correct term would be "coded language — play[ing] the game the right way" and that would be--in unison now--racissssss.

    Replies: @William BadWhite

    , @Bugg
    @Anonymous

    Black guys simply are more likely to play football or basketball instead. High school coaches make good athletes of any color commit to one sport pretty much by sophomore year. The idea of being a pro in any sport is a longshot. But baseball makes it's players go through usually 3 or more years of minors before you get to the show. The NBA and NFL use college as their minor leagues. And even with that baseball has no problem getting lots of Latinos , both American and from Latin America.

    Baseball is losing popularity generally, not only in black communities. Racism has nothing to do with it. Frankly find baseball very long and boring anyway. It's tedious in an era of video games. Was a time not long ago would watch Yankee games every night; haven't watched on in 2 or 3 years. Basketball and football are really more fun to watch and play. The Yankees own in partnership with an English soccer team an MLS franchise which is drawing very well in the Bronx. May not happen in my lifetime, but at some point soccer is going to catch up. People have always claimed the NFL would put a team in London, but now more likely the EPL or another Euro league will put a few teams in the US. Too much money for it not to happen.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous

  23. @AndyBoy
    I enjoy the discomfort of White sports-cucks.

    All these White guys who have poured billions of dollars and tons of attention into games now dominated by Blacks.

    Nothing sillier than a White guy going all gaga over his latest Black sports crush. And now the Blacks are increasingly disrespecting the country these White Cucks claim to love. Sets up an interesting conflict!

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @David In TN, @Clyde

    “When you realize what a joke everything is, being The Comedian is the only thing that makes sense.”

  24. @Anonymous
    Incidentally, I don't recall pro sporting events being total patrio-tard fests during the 90s and earlier decades. Now, you go to a ball game, and you have to stand every other inning for some tribute to this or that military personnel or vets.

    I dislike Kapernick and the protests, and I'm all for saluting the flag and anthem and all that, but pro games have definitely changed in the direction of excessive flag/military worship over the past decade.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong

    The Pentagon was revealed to be paying for much of it.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/05/454834662/pentagon-paid-sports-teams-millions-for-paid-patriotism-events

    While millennia of Anglo-Saxon tradition casts aspersions toward a standing army, the Average Joe conservative of today regards the military as one of the only institutions in society to maintain “purity”. Facts, such as the fact that the military has long been a pit of leftist social engineering, are thrown out in favor of the pageantry.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Maj. Kong

    The payola from the military is part of it, but there's also been a cultural pendulum swing from the Vietnam era, when the left was anti-military, to the Gulf War, when, to make up for that, the center left joined in with the yellow ribbons, blood drives, etc., to this century, where everyone who serves is literally called a hero.

    In the last hundred years, we've gone from venerating ass-kickers like Alvin York and Audie Murphy to POWs like John McCain and Jessica Lynch, to anyone wearing a uniform.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong

    , @DCThrowback
    @Maj. Kong

    All of these comments are spot on. If people knew how much our "heroes" were getting paid to "volunteer", they might be less likely to stand up and cheer. But since we are at fiat currency and fiat reflexive love for all things "pure", here we are.

    Recommend Andrew Bacevich's piece on "cheap grace", which is what the set up hero reunions, American flags, military presence at games, etc. led to.

    http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/175423/tomgram%3A_andrew_bacevich%2C_playing_ball_with_the_pentagon/

    , @peterike
    @Maj. Kong


    The Pentagon was revealed to be paying for much of it.

     

    So basically there's nothing that happens in American life that isn't, at some level, just more psy-ops.
    , @John Mansfield
    @Maj. Kong

    Somewhere working into the recent lionization of the military is the end of conscription after Vietnam. From 1940 until 1973, conscripts were inducted every year except for 1947. Even in 1958, the year Elvis was drafted and sent to Germany, there were 142,000 draftees, a third of the Vietnam peak. Being drafted into the army was a feature of American life for a third of a century. My father and all five of my uncles did some kind of military service. But among my couple dozen male cousins, only two ever enlisted. In 2012, for the first time since Roosevelt beat Dewey, neither party's presidential candidate was a former military officer.

    Only a small fraction of men under 60 have served in the military, and that is creating a reverence toward those who are or have. Veterans aren't as common as water anymore.

    Replies: @duncsbaby, @ScarletNumber

  25. I’m past way past Negro Fatigue. More like negro AIDS at this point.

  26. @Anonymous
    Major League Baseball is 8 percent African-American and more than 30 percent Latino

    It seems this guy wants more black ballplayers. Who is more underrepresented in baseball, Anerican blacks or American Whites? Anyone know?

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Lurker

    Many Hispanics are blacks from the Dominican Republic.

    • Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown
    @Maj. Kong


    Many Hispanics are blacks from the Dominican Republic.
     
    This is where the NFL = MLB analogy fails.

    A more appropriate analogy would be NHL = MLB.

    -Lots of foreign nationals on each team
    -The league has teams in the U.S and Canada
    -Everyone respectfully stands for the national anthem of the country in which that particular game is being played

    Does Adam Jones want to take a knee in Toronto, too?

    Damn it, will some one please ask how spoiled black millionaires who play a children's game feel about "O Canada"?!?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  27. @Anonymous
    Major League Baseball is 8 percent African-American and more than 30 percent Latino

    It seems this guy wants more black ballplayers. Who is more underrepresented in baseball, Anerican blacks or American Whites? Anyone know?

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Lurker

    I think, very roughly, whites are represented as per the general population, blacks somewhat below and Latinos way over-represented.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Lurker

    Part of the reason Latinos are overrepresented is that Latin America is one of the few places outside the US where baseball is popular.

  28. @Anonymous
    @Unladen Swallow

    Almost half the NBA owners are Jewish:

    "Why Are So Many Pro Basketball Owners Jewish (Like Donald Sterling)?"

    http://forward.com/news/israel/197643/why-are-so-many-pro-basketball-owners-jewish-like/


    .There are only three Jewish players in the NBA, and no Jewish head coaches. Yet nearly half the principal owners of NBA teams are Jewish, as are the league’s current commissioner and its immediate past commissioner.

    No other major pro league in the United States has such a high proportion of Jewish owners. The NFL comes closest: Roughly a third of that league’s owners are Jewish. Just a handful of pro baseball and hockey owners are Jews.
     

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @snorlax, @ScarletNumber, @Brutusale, @ben tillman

    Not too long ago, we had 3/4ths Jewish commissioners. Selig (MLB), Stern (NBA), and Bettman (NHL).

    Now we have a WASP, an Irish Catholic, and two Jews. No complaints that the NFL didn’t pick Rice instead of Goodell.

    Given the level of public support to pro sports, we should be insisting that the commissioner should be a federally appointed position, rather than chosen by the owners.

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    @Maj. Kong

    Given the level of public support to pro sports, we should be insisting that the commissioner should be a federally appointed position, rather than chosen by the owners.

    Give the owners a choice: they agree to not lobby for or accept city and state financing of venues and to implement a mandatory pay sequestration system for incoming players (e.g., a private Social Security or savings system) or we appoint a Federal Professional Major Sports Administration replacing the present Commissioners.

    Not going to happen though.

    Replies: @anonymous

    , @Studley
    @Maj. Kong


    Now we have a WASP, an Irish Catholic, and two Jews. No complaints that the NFL didn’t pick Rice instead of Goodell
     
    .

    At least it's more diverse than the Supreme Court.
  29. @SPMoore8
    a deafening silence of incuriosity -- The author is the kind of guy who thinks this kind of writing makes sense and marks him as an intellectual. It makes him sound pretentious and rather silly. There are several other examples in the article, e.g., "soil"? As in "ground"? Please.

    Actually I read the ballplayer's comments and I think what he meant to say is that there won't be any Kaepernick's in baseball because it is dominated by whites, in a way that neither football or basketball are. However, because his reasoning is as casual and as loud as his clothes, he just said, "It's a white man's game." There's nothing deep here.

    Thus:

    saying that the game lacks the untouchable wealth of black superstar power

    He didn't say that, and if there was a black guy who could pitch like Kershaw or hit like Trout he'd be lionized. As it is, McCutcheon is rightly praised but he's just not that great.

    play the game the right way — repels the stylish flairs of a modern player, kids raised in a time of selfies and TV highlights

    So, in other words, baseball doesn't have as much showboating and histrionics as the NBA and the NFL, which black people are really good at. Point taken. Point also not wanted.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @guest, @Brutusale, @Abe

    The game lacks the untouchable wealth of black superstar power, whatever that means, now. But remember when they spent, oh, 10 years never shutting up about Barry Bonds? Was that because he was a white guy in disguise?

    Wait, has anyone ever seen Mark McGwire in the same stadium? Conspiracy!

    Wait again, maybe the steroids turned him white. Shrunk his…you know what? I don’t want to talk about this anymore.

  30. Imagine having so much power in society that any time some other group demonstrated success or achievement or vitality you could portray that the public as morally wrong.

  31. @gruff
    Probably one of the main reasons more blacks don't play baseballs is that they mostly live in cities and there aren't many baseball fields in inner cities anymore. As they get pushed out by gentrification, expect that to change.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Brutusale, @Lazy Hero

    With American whites being only slightly more represented in proportion to their population than American blacks, what explains why Americam whites don’t play baseball anymore?

    • Replies: @gruff
    @Anonymous

    If whites are only slightly more represented in baseball than their percentage of population, then that indicates that they are playing baseball. No explanation needed.

  32. Has anyone ever studied whether black bio-mechanics are actually less conducive to baseball? Obviously combinations of speed and power are important, but longer arms are often a disadvantage, especially for swing mechanics, and there are only so many defensive positions where ranginess is a top priority. Black bio-mechanics may even create some disadvantage for pitching, where control and consistency are compromised by narrower hips (maybe not, though, just purely from what I see, black pitchers tend to be more wild on average).

    In any case, even if black bio mechanics are not a disadvantage, the advantages they offer in football and basketball are nullified on a baseball field, so we might expect a percentage of black players equal to the population, but no greater, even if baseball was the only game in town

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @lomez

    "Has anyone ever studied whether black bio-mechanics are actually less conducive to baseball?"

    I played baseball through college (Division 1) and for a couple of years after in a semi-pro league. My college had one black guy and the semi-pro team two. The college guy was quite good and was drafted by the Expos (dating myself a bit) though he never made it out of the minors. The two guys on the semi-pro team were pretty bad (by the standards of that league which was mostly ex-college and minor league players). One was a pitcher with poor control and the other was an outfielder that only was used to pinch-run.

    I think biomechanics has nothing to do with it. Other commented that fewer blacks live in rural or suburban areas where baseball is often played.

    I'd add that baseball is hard - its a game of failure as the oft-cited "good hitters fail 70% of the time" adage goes. It is a game of improvement through repetition and practice, and as a game of failure your opportunities to dance and taunt your opponent are less frequent. If dancing and taunting is really important to you, baseball can be boring.

    I think blacks don't play baseball as much as they used to because its really hard and you have to behave yourself.

    A generation or two ago that was less of an impediment than it is today. What has changed is a topic for a different conversation.

  33. Re ‘weaponization’

    You may not be interested in sports …… but sports is interested in you.

  34. @Anonymous
    Major League Baseball is 8 percent African-American and more than 30 percent Latino, signed in large numbers for pennies on the dollar. Economically, Latino players are treated as far more disposable than Americans or players from the Asian market, and have been treated with second-class attitudes for just as long.

    Hispanic players are just doing jobs blacks won't do.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @anonymous, @Forbes

    Many of the hispanics, such as Dominicans and Cubans, are black. They actually trace their ancestry back to the slave trade like American blacks.

  35. ESPN is taking Jones’s original assertion about the lack of protests as having to do with the fact that baseball is a lot whiter than the NFL/NBA ,(which is true) and running with it into the ridiculous territory of conspiracy to oppress African-Americans in baseball when they’re only somewhat underrepresented there and grossly overrepresented elsewhere. I understand a lot of why Kaepernick and Jones are upset, as blacks don’t really have effective political representation since the Dems take them for granted and the GOP doesn’t really reach out except in the most superficial of ways to reassure their white base that they aren’t racist. Note that the modern globalist regime doesn’t really help them much either, outside of a few welfare/affirmative action scraps. The problem is that these things are invariably filtered into the standard identity politics and inconvenient aspects of such statements(like Kaepernick calling out “superpredator” Hillary’s hypocrisy) are dutifully censored.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    @Obamadon_Imbecilis

    The GOP can't "reach out" to blacks, because they would alienate too much of their base.

    The main black political priorities include:
    -An activist federal government
    -Restraints on policing
    -More social spending
    -Disarming white suburbanites
    -Eliminating "white privilege"
    -Affirmative Action
    -Reparations
    -Increased Section 8
    -Government jobs

    And for a significant minority of blacks there are these:
    -Mass immigration from Africa
    -Foreign aid to Africa
    -Tolerance for Islam

    These priorities have existed for years outside of the party activists and politicians. The basic priorities of conservatives, such as a reduced federal government and resistance to affirmative action, are impossible to square with the overwhelming majority of blacks in America.

    If the GOP was interested in peeling off an additional section of black voters, they would be promising a new WPA/CCC, paying for it with cuts to the DoD. They could also ease up on punishing government employees as a class, instead targeting the tax advantages held by the top .1%

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Jefferson

    , @Former Darfur
    @Obamadon_Imbecilis

    Blacks don't have much real representation in American politics, but one, it's their own fault and two, it's better for the rest of us anyway that they don't.

    , @peterike
    @Obamadon_Imbecilis


    as blacks don’t really have effective political representation

     

    Don't they, though? They are advantaged, by law, in key aspects of life that matter in America: school access (from fancy kindergarten on through PhD programs), job hiring and job firing. In these areas there is a systemic red carpet laid out for blacks, if they only have the wherewithal to walk upon it (mostly they don't).

    Whenever I hear this "blacks aren't represented!" plaint, I like to ask: what, exactly, do you WANT? If you want everything free forever, just say so. At least we'll know. But what do they want that they don't already have?

    Replies: @Anonymous

  36. @Anonymous
    @Unladen Swallow

    Almost half the NBA owners are Jewish:

    "Why Are So Many Pro Basketball Owners Jewish (Like Donald Sterling)?"

    http://forward.com/news/israel/197643/why-are-so-many-pro-basketball-owners-jewish-like/


    .There are only three Jewish players in the NBA, and no Jewish head coaches. Yet nearly half the principal owners of NBA teams are Jewish, as are the league’s current commissioner and its immediate past commissioner.

    No other major pro league in the United States has such a high proportion of Jewish owners. The NFL comes closest: Roughly a third of that league’s owners are Jewish. Just a handful of pro baseball and hockey owners are Jews.
     

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @snorlax, @ScarletNumber, @Brutusale, @ben tillman

    Urban whites like basketball more than rural whites.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @snorlax

    There are about four states where basketball is huge outside of cities: Kansas, Kentucky, Indiana, and North Carolina.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @David In TN

  37. @Lurker
    @Anonymous

    I think, very roughly, whites are represented as per the general population, blacks somewhat below and Latinos way over-represented.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Part of the reason Latinos are overrepresented is that Latin America is one of the few places outside the US where baseball is popular.

  38. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Speaking of Moneyball, have you ever looked into which sports have the best movies? It seems like baseball movies have been the best, lots of decent ones like Moneyball, The Natural, Field of Dreams, Major League, Mr. Baseball, Sandlot, etc. Football and basketball movies haven’t been as good, and there haven’t been as many I don’t think. Any Given Sunday was decent I suppose. Hoosiers was really cheesy.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Boxing is way ahead of other sports in movies. Baseball is probably 2nd.

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @ScarletNumber

    , @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    @Anonymous

    "Slapshot", an ice hockey movie was tremendous, possibly the greatest sports movie of all time.
    http://pyxurz.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/slap-shot-page-10-of-10.html

    , @Danindc
    @Anonymous

    Hoosiers was great. The Sandlot was possibly the stupidest movie ever made. I question the sanity of anyone that doesn't hate it.

    , @JohnnyGeo
    @Anonymous

    The Fish that Saved Pittsburgh

  39. Anonymous [AKA "jage"] says:

    bs. blacks only care about power, not social justice. zimbabwe and south africa are good examples

  40. @syonredux

    Baseball, Jones said, is not the black-dominated world of football or basketball, saying that the game lacks the untouchable wealth of black superstar power, and even a reputable volume of rank and file for it to support a similar form of protest. In demographic and attitude, Jones said baseball is “a white man’s game.”

     

    Let's see, we start out with "Black" as the preferred racial signifier at the beginning of the article. But then.....

    Major League Baseball is 8 percent African-American and more than 30 percent Latino,
     
    we shift to African-American....probably because a huge percentage of those Latinos are also Black....

    Replies: @duncsbaby, @Hibernian, @attilathehen

    Agreed, I would say at least half of those Latino players are Blacks, mostly from the Dominican Republic, which if my humble math skills are correct means that Blacks make up 23% of all MLB players. Watch a game & tell me that ain’t correct.

  41. anon • Disclaimer says:

    When I’m taking the bus to the grocery store, I ride by a nice baseball field that the local MLB team built in the inner city to encourage blacks to take baseball up again. It’s full of weeds and I have never seen it being used. ……Damn racist white people.

    • Replies: @Joe Schmoe
    @anon


    When I’m taking the bus to the grocery store, I ride by a nice baseball field that the local MLB team built in the inner city to encourage blacks to take baseball up again. It’s full of weeds and I have never seen it being used. ……Damn racist white people.
     
    Yeah, but the local MLB team isn't keeping it mowed, or supplying coaches, clinics and leagues. You know, all those things that are done by volunteers at Little Leagues all across the country.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  42. @Maj. Kong
    @Anonymous

    The Pentagon was revealed to be paying for much of it.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/05/454834662/pentagon-paid-sports-teams-millions-for-paid-patriotism-events

    While millennia of Anglo-Saxon tradition casts aspersions toward a standing army, the Average Joe conservative of today regards the military as one of the only institutions in society to maintain "purity". Facts, such as the fact that the military has long been a pit of leftist social engineering, are thrown out in favor of the pageantry.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @DCThrowback, @peterike, @John Mansfield

    The payola from the military is part of it, but there’s also been a cultural pendulum swing from the Vietnam era, when the left was anti-military, to the Gulf War, when, to make up for that, the center left joined in with the yellow ribbons, blood drives, etc., to this century, where everyone who serves is literally called a hero.

    In the last hundred years, we’ve gone from venerating ass-kickers like Alvin York and Audie Murphy to POWs like John McCain and Jessica Lynch, to anyone wearing a uniform.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    @Dave Pinsen

    With or without two terms of President Trump, the political right would do well do adopt an anti-militarist stance. It may be hard to accomplish without the JCS being entirely SJWs, but a better project needs to be undertook than Scott McConnell's.

    A good start would be trying to give the state Governors real authority, and funding responsibility, over the National Guard.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Joe Schmoe, @guest

  43. @Maj. Kong
    @Anonymous

    Not too long ago, we had 3/4ths Jewish commissioners. Selig (MLB), Stern (NBA), and Bettman (NHL).

    Now we have a WASP, an Irish Catholic, and two Jews. No complaints that the NFL didn't pick Rice instead of Goodell.

    Given the level of public support to pro sports, we should be insisting that the commissioner should be a federally appointed position, rather than chosen by the owners.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @Studley

    Given the level of public support to pro sports, we should be insisting that the commissioner should be a federally appointed position, rather than chosen by the owners.

    Give the owners a choice: they agree to not lobby for or accept city and state financing of venues and to implement a mandatory pay sequestration system for incoming players (e.g., a private Social Security or savings system) or we appoint a Federal Professional Major Sports Administration replacing the present Commissioners.

    Not going to happen though.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Former Darfur

    FD and MK:
    Not sure where you're going with this. Please elaborate on how "we [would] appoint a Federal Professional Major Sports Administration replacing the present Commissioners." How might such an Administration affect the major sports?

    Having read the other comments:
    Sorry, but the importance of sports in the lives of many of my fellows seems juvenile. I still listen via radio pretty faithfully to my favorite baseball team, but long ago stopped paying any attention at all to other sports, pro or "amateur." (No TV in the house.). Other than being exposed to the increasingly frequent donning of camouflage uniforms when going to watch highlights on the team website, I experience none of this Cultural Crap or fascistic pageantry -- the broadcasters stick to the game, or personal experiences and insights that reveal no view about any of the "issues" with which Americans have been divided and conquered.

    Why does any of you spend a dime or a minute on the likes of ESPN? None of this stuff should be any more than a pastime. Please consider starving these beasts by doing something else with your lives.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong

  44. Totally off topic.
    87 year old anti-semitic German Nazi granny goes to prison for for expressing opinion.
    Enjoy prison, you nasty old Nazi!
    http://www.dw.com/en/nazi-grandma-holocaust-denier-ursula-haverbeck-sentenced-to-jail/a-19522941

  45. aNONYMous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonah
    ESPN.com has gone full SJW over the past couple years. I've read less and less as it's happened. I'm not the only one. Looks like the past year has seen it fall about 140 spots in terms of worldwide popularity from 110ish to 248.

    http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/espn.go.com

    After this article, I think I'm ready to switch - after 17 years of ESPN.com as one of my top bookmarks - to SI.com.

    Replies: @SnakeEyes, @aNONYMous, @Jokah Macpherson, @Carbon blob, @The preferred nomenclature is..., @young_american, @Marty T

    It seems like almost any publication you pick up has this same tone now.

    It doesn’t matter if it’s a magazine about archaeology or a copy of Cat Fancy…. They all seem to shoehorn identity politics into the stories and columns somehow.

    More than anything, I just find it very weird. Maybe about five years or so ago, all sorts of stuff happening in the culture has started making me feel like something has changed dramatically.

    It was always there, but more of a subculture around universities and political gays. But it has become so prevalent now. Even my parents small town newspaper reads like a copy of some sociology trade publication.

    I can’t explain why this has happened so suddenly. I feel uneasy about it all (I guess that’s the point…to make me uneasy) I can’t see anything good coming from it all.

    It makes for dull reading too.

    • Replies: @TheBoom
    @aNONYMous

    Agree. It makes for dull, predictable, and, ultimately, boring reading.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    , @AndrewR
    @aNONYMous

    The long march through the institutions is complete.

    , @ogunsiron
    @aNONYMous

    It's the dominant culture among all those who write, no matter what the subject.

    , @bomag
    @aNONYMous


    Maybe about five years or so ago, all sorts of stuff happening in the culture has started making me feel like something has changed dramatically.
     
    Don't discount the election of Barry Soetoro and the central gov't going full racial grievance.
  46. @Anonymous
    Speaking of Moneyball, have you ever looked into which sports have the best movies? It seems like baseball movies have been the best, lots of decent ones like Moneyball, The Natural, Field of Dreams, Major League, Mr. Baseball, Sandlot, etc. Football and basketball movies haven't been as good, and there haven't been as many I don't think. Any Given Sunday was decent I suppose. Hoosiers was really cheesy.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever..., @Danindc, @JohnnyGeo

    Boxing is way ahead of other sports in movies. Baseball is probably 2nd.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    @Steve Sailer

    East Bound and Down, not a movie of course, is great.

    There was a pretty good made for HBO movie called Long Gone in the '80s. William Petersen as the player manager, Virginia Madsen as his girlfriend Dixie Lee Boxx.

    It's supposed to be Class D ball in the late '50s south but of course they get history wrong. Peterson has a black player, Joe Louis Brown, but they pretend he is Venezuelan so he can play. But Hank Aaron played in the Sally League (South Atlantic League) for Jacksonville Florida in 1953. Frank Robinson for Columbia, SC in 1954.

    , @ScarletNumber
    @Steve Sailer

    Probably because it is easiest for the director, rather than anything inherently interesting about the sport or its participants.

  47. You know Steve , may I call you Steve ? As you well know these sports posts are BS , just filler to keep your fans busy while you make some beans and franks . And let’s face it if we are going to suddenly pretend to give a shit about sports we should discuss the Mets . But no , you throw this shit up in here . Only a very few talented Negros can play baseball , otherwise it’s at this point white men and Dominicans . So , if you are going to persist in these distractions at least make you family a good meal . I suggest this :

    • Replies: @Jim Sweeney
    @donut

    BTW, the "spaghetti" in the picture is actually known as linguine as it's obviously flat, not round.

    Replies: @donut

    , @Ron Mexico
    @donut

    There are nearly as many Venezuelans in MLB as DR, and more than Mexi, Cuban, and PR combined. The one MLB game I attended this season between Phila and Detroit there were 13 Venezuelans. They were mostly of the light skinned variety.

    , @Alec Leamas
    @donut

    Cheese on seafood is a big no-no in Italian cuisine.

    Replies: @donut

  48. @Dave Pinsen
    @Maj. Kong

    The payola from the military is part of it, but there's also been a cultural pendulum swing from the Vietnam era, when the left was anti-military, to the Gulf War, when, to make up for that, the center left joined in with the yellow ribbons, blood drives, etc., to this century, where everyone who serves is literally called a hero.

    In the last hundred years, we've gone from venerating ass-kickers like Alvin York and Audie Murphy to POWs like John McCain and Jessica Lynch, to anyone wearing a uniform.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong

    With or without two terms of President Trump, the political right would do well do adopt an anti-militarist stance. It may be hard to accomplish without the JCS being entirely SJWs, but a better project needs to be undertook than Scott McConnell’s.

    A good start would be trying to give the state Governors real authority, and funding responsibility, over the National Guard.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Maj. Kong

    Anti-militarist without being anti-military is the balance to strike.

    De-federalizing the National Guard wouldn't be a bad idea either. If they're needed for domestic purposes, governors can activate them. But they shouldn't be used for expeditionary wars.

    One of Trump's false notes is about "rebuilding the military". We spend an enormous amount on it. But I get why he's doing it. The best case scenario would be less militarism and less money spent on the military. But a reversion to Reagan's model of spending a lot on the military but using it judiciously would be an improvement over the last 15 years.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    , @Joe Schmoe
    @Maj. Kong

    Texas has a state guard.

    https://tmd.texas.gov/texas-state-guard

    Replies: @The most deplorable one

    , @guest
    @Maj. Kong

    That might be an okay idea from an alt-right or radical conservative perspective. But no way does the junior national party give up any influence over the permanent government/deep state. Without the military/intelligence Republicans would be ceding Washington, and all federal employees would basically be Democrats forever.

  49. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Major League Baseball is 8 percent African-American and more than 30 percent Latino, signed in large numbers for pennies on the dollar. Economically, Latino players are treated as far more disposable than Americans or players from the Asian market, and have been treated with second-class attitudes for just as long.

    Hispanic players are just doing jobs blacks won't do.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @anonymous, @Forbes

    If Latino players are occupying roughly 30% of the slots (abused as they are) and there are also a small amount of Canadian/japanese/etc, why would anyone feel overly bad about 8% of the players being black Americans?

    I’m bad with math, but is that wildly out of proportion? It seems about where it should be, or not terribly far off.

    And if baseball seems to register more with whites/latinos, why is this an inherently bad thing? Where is it written that all sport needs to be dominated by American blacks – numerically and culturally.

    Why is this seen as being necessary. Nobody seems to complain bitterly that the NBA needs more hispanics or whites or asians?

    If Bryant could look at the situation through someone else’s eyes, he might see that he’s the one who is being somewhat biased.

  50. @Anonymous
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GIEHPGj9sI

    Replies: @Twinkie

    The white privilege was strong with Chan Ho Park.

  51. @Anonymous
    Speaking of Moneyball, have you ever looked into which sports have the best movies? It seems like baseball movies have been the best, lots of decent ones like Moneyball, The Natural, Field of Dreams, Major League, Mr. Baseball, Sandlot, etc. Football and basketball movies haven't been as good, and there haven't been as many I don't think. Any Given Sunday was decent I suppose. Hoosiers was really cheesy.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever..., @Danindc, @JohnnyGeo

    “Slapshot”, an ice hockey movie was tremendous, possibly the greatest sports movie of all time.
    http://pyxurz.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/slap-shot-page-10-of-10.html

    • Agree: BenKenobi
  52. @Obamadon_Imbecilis
    ESPN is taking Jones's original assertion about the lack of protests as having to do with the fact that baseball is a lot whiter than the NFL/NBA ,(which is true) and running with it into the ridiculous territory of conspiracy to oppress African-Americans in baseball when they're only somewhat underrepresented there and grossly overrepresented elsewhere. I understand a lot of why Kaepernick and Jones are upset, as blacks don't really have effective political representation since the Dems take them for granted and the GOP doesn't really reach out except in the most superficial of ways to reassure their white base that they aren't racist. Note that the modern globalist regime doesn't really help them much either, outside of a few welfare/affirmative action scraps. The problem is that these things are invariably filtered into the standard identity politics and inconvenient aspects of such statements(like Kaepernick calling out "superpredator" Hillary's hypocrisy) are dutifully censored.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Former Darfur, @peterike

    The GOP can’t “reach out” to blacks, because they would alienate too much of their base.

    The main black political priorities include:
    -An activist federal government
    -Restraints on policing
    -More social spending
    -Disarming white suburbanites
    -Eliminating “white privilege”
    -Affirmative Action
    -Reparations
    -Increased Section 8
    -Government jobs

    And for a significant minority of blacks there are these:
    -Mass immigration from Africa
    -Foreign aid to Africa
    -Tolerance for Islam

    These priorities have existed for years outside of the party activists and politicians. The basic priorities of conservatives, such as a reduced federal government and resistance to affirmative action, are impossible to square with the overwhelming majority of blacks in America.

    If the GOP was interested in peeling off an additional section of black voters, they would be promising a new WPA/CCC, paying for it with cuts to the DoD. They could also ease up on punishing government employees as a class, instead targeting the tax advantages held by the top .1%

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Maj. Kong

    Trump has reached out to blacks without offering more of any of that. He's focussed on private sector jobs and law & order instead.

    Which also works as an indirect appeal to whites.

    Replies: @ogunsiron

    , @Jefferson
    @Maj. Kong

    "And for a significant minority of blacks there are these:
    -Mass immigration from Africa
    -Foreign aid to Africa
    -Tolerance for Islam"

    I've seen estimates that say 8 percent at the low end to 20 percent at the high end of African Americans are Muslims.

    That would explain why African Americans were more likely than Whites to be offended at Donald Trump's comments about Muslims.

  53. It sounds like black baseball players are worried they’re starting to look like Uncle Toms– this seems like a real sticking point in US black culture for the choice between gangster macho and working-your-way-to-the-top– black culture doesn’t seem to have many non-gangster heroes… outside of the church, I guess. (Don’t black schoolboys get bullied by other blacks for studying?)

    If baseball’s rules were loosened to allow (eg) more showboating, would it appeal more to blacks? And less to whites?

    There’s beauty in a clean doubleplay that’s more about teamwork and egolessness– baseball players have to go out every day and do their best even if their team is in last place. Being allowed to rub your success in the losers’ faces would change the dynamic for the worse, I think.

    • Replies: @MC
    @robot

    On the whole, baseball involves less "teamwork" than any other major team sport.

    The major limit on showboating in baseball isn't any written rule. It's that you face the prospect of getting beaned by a 95-mph fastball in reprisal.

    Replies: @Marty

    , @Former Darfur
    @robot

    Blacks liked baseball when they had a league of their own. Many Negro League black fans lost interest in baseball even though there were some American and some Latin American blacks playing.

    Replies: @Big Bill

    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    @robot

    I've noticed lots of baseball chat in recent years from ESPN, Deadspin, etc., expressing how utterly life-affirming and inspiring it is when a player engages in showboating (e.g. standing at home plate and admiring a home run, and/or doing an ostentatious bat flip). It's presented as standing up to The Man (who is maybe the ghost of Ted Williams, or whoever is in charge of How Baseball Should Be Played), and moving baseball forward into The Current Year.

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Forbes

  54. @Obamadon_Imbecilis
    ESPN is taking Jones's original assertion about the lack of protests as having to do with the fact that baseball is a lot whiter than the NFL/NBA ,(which is true) and running with it into the ridiculous territory of conspiracy to oppress African-Americans in baseball when they're only somewhat underrepresented there and grossly overrepresented elsewhere. I understand a lot of why Kaepernick and Jones are upset, as blacks don't really have effective political representation since the Dems take them for granted and the GOP doesn't really reach out except in the most superficial of ways to reassure their white base that they aren't racist. Note that the modern globalist regime doesn't really help them much either, outside of a few welfare/affirmative action scraps. The problem is that these things are invariably filtered into the standard identity politics and inconvenient aspects of such statements(like Kaepernick calling out "superpredator" Hillary's hypocrisy) are dutifully censored.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Former Darfur, @peterike

    Blacks don’t have much real representation in American politics, but one, it’s their own fault and two, it’s better for the rest of us anyway that they don’t.

  55. @robot
    It sounds like black baseball players are worried they're starting to look like Uncle Toms-- this seems like a real sticking point in US black culture for the choice between gangster macho and working-your-way-to-the-top-- black culture doesn't seem to have many non-gangster heroes... outside of the church, I guess. (Don't black schoolboys get bullied by other blacks for studying?)

    If baseball's rules were loosened to allow (eg) more showboating, would it appeal more to blacks? And less to whites?

    There's beauty in a clean doubleplay that's more about teamwork and egolessness-- baseball players have to go out every day and do their best even if their team is in last place. Being allowed to rub your success in the losers' faces would change the dynamic for the worse, I think.

    Replies: @MC, @Former Darfur, @The Last Real Calvinist

    On the whole, baseball involves less “teamwork” than any other major team sport.

    The major limit on showboating in baseball isn’t any written rule. It’s that you face the prospect of getting beaned by a 95-mph fastball in reprisal.

    • Replies: @Marty
    @MC

    No, wrong. The primary limit on showboating (i.e. black participation) in baseball would exist even if everyone were cool with it and beanballs weren't a threat. That limit is inherent to the game and takes the form of a relative absence of opportunity for direct physical domination. Since 60.5 feet is as close as hitter and pitcher get to each other, baseball has no "in yo' face" play on the order of the tackle or the dunk, and blacks have a primal need for that. What happens on Chicago's south side every day is just NBA/NFL for the guys who didn't quite reach that level. Columnists like this guy have yet to admit the black essence to themselves.

  56. @robot
    It sounds like black baseball players are worried they're starting to look like Uncle Toms-- this seems like a real sticking point in US black culture for the choice between gangster macho and working-your-way-to-the-top-- black culture doesn't seem to have many non-gangster heroes... outside of the church, I guess. (Don't black schoolboys get bullied by other blacks for studying?)

    If baseball's rules were loosened to allow (eg) more showboating, would it appeal more to blacks? And less to whites?

    There's beauty in a clean doubleplay that's more about teamwork and egolessness-- baseball players have to go out every day and do their best even if their team is in last place. Being allowed to rub your success in the losers' faces would change the dynamic for the worse, I think.

    Replies: @MC, @Former Darfur, @The Last Real Calvinist

    Blacks liked baseball when they had a league of their own. Many Negro League black fans lost interest in baseball even though there were some American and some Latin American blacks playing.

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    @Former Darfur

    What happened to the Negro Leagues is just another facet of Tragic Integration.

    On an intellectual level, blacks don't like being kept out of white stuff.

    When they are integrated, however, they realize they don't particularly like being surrounded by white folks and having to "ack white" all the time.

    As far as baseball is concerned, why on earth would they like to waste their time watching a bunch of alien white folks for 99.5% of the game in hopes of seeing a couple Jackie Robinson at-bats?

    Replies: @Corvinus

  57. Baseball pays better. A lot better.

    Thats what you get when you hire a union guy to run your union.

    • Replies: @mts1
    @Anon

    Marvin Miller, yes; Fehr, ugh. One nice thing Miller had was to hold contract talks in auditoriums with the rule that any player or owner came come in and observe at any time in the process. Owners never came, but players did and got to see their interests discussed real-time. Miller was a genius, able to maximize for the players without killing the golden goose. Fehr seems to have been a wrecking ball in both baseball and hockey.

  58. @robot
    It sounds like black baseball players are worried they're starting to look like Uncle Toms-- this seems like a real sticking point in US black culture for the choice between gangster macho and working-your-way-to-the-top-- black culture doesn't seem to have many non-gangster heroes... outside of the church, I guess. (Don't black schoolboys get bullied by other blacks for studying?)

    If baseball's rules were loosened to allow (eg) more showboating, would it appeal more to blacks? And less to whites?

    There's beauty in a clean doubleplay that's more about teamwork and egolessness-- baseball players have to go out every day and do their best even if their team is in last place. Being allowed to rub your success in the losers' faces would change the dynamic for the worse, I think.

    Replies: @MC, @Former Darfur, @The Last Real Calvinist

    I’ve noticed lots of baseball chat in recent years from ESPN, Deadspin, etc., expressing how utterly life-affirming and inspiring it is when a player engages in showboating (e.g. standing at home plate and admiring a home run, and/or doing an ostentatious bat flip). It’s presented as standing up to The Man (who is maybe the ghost of Ted Williams, or whoever is in charge of How Baseball Should Be Played), and moving baseball forward into The Current Year.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    What's even worse is that every player has to give thanks to the gods when they cross the plate after hitting a home run (IIRC, that's how it started, anyway). Now players go through the routine of thumping their chest and pointing to the sky when they get to first base on an intentional walk. It's gotten utterly ridiculous.

    Replies: @anonymous

    , @Forbes
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    The sports media business model is about attracting eyeballs, so they need highlight reel plays to endlessly loop, and talk about. Showboating is cake frosting. Games are secondary.

  59. @Maj. Kong
    @Dave Pinsen

    With or without two terms of President Trump, the political right would do well do adopt an anti-militarist stance. It may be hard to accomplish without the JCS being entirely SJWs, but a better project needs to be undertook than Scott McConnell's.

    A good start would be trying to give the state Governors real authority, and funding responsibility, over the National Guard.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Joe Schmoe, @guest

    Anti-militarist without being anti-military is the balance to strike.

    De-federalizing the National Guard wouldn’t be a bad idea either. If they’re needed for domestic purposes, governors can activate them. But they shouldn’t be used for expeditionary wars.

    One of Trump’s false notes is about “rebuilding the military”. We spend an enormous amount on it. But I get why he’s doing it. The best case scenario would be less militarism and less money spent on the military. But a reversion to Reagan’s model of spending a lot on the military but using it judiciously would be an improvement over the last 15 years.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Dave Pinsen

    Giving Chris Christie real authority over fighter jets, without elevating him to the Presidency? Priceless!

  60. @donut
    You know Steve , may I call you Steve ? As you well know these sports posts are BS , just filler to keep your fans busy while you make some beans and franks . And let's face it if we are going to suddenly pretend to give a shit about sports we should discuss the Mets . But no , you throw this shit up in here . Only a very few talented Negros can play baseball , otherwise it's at this point white men and Dominicans . So , if you are going to persist in these distractions at least make you family a good meal . I suggest this :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEVg0Ahq320

    Replies: @Jim Sweeney, @Ron Mexico, @Alec Leamas

    BTW, the “spaghetti” in the picture is actually known as linguine as it’s obviously flat, not round.

    • Replies: @donut
    @Jim Sweeney

    No , it's spaghetti you pretentious Olive Garden take out f88k .

    Replies: @Jim Sweeney

  61. @Maj. Kong
    @Obamadon_Imbecilis

    The GOP can't "reach out" to blacks, because they would alienate too much of their base.

    The main black political priorities include:
    -An activist federal government
    -Restraints on policing
    -More social spending
    -Disarming white suburbanites
    -Eliminating "white privilege"
    -Affirmative Action
    -Reparations
    -Increased Section 8
    -Government jobs

    And for a significant minority of blacks there are these:
    -Mass immigration from Africa
    -Foreign aid to Africa
    -Tolerance for Islam

    These priorities have existed for years outside of the party activists and politicians. The basic priorities of conservatives, such as a reduced federal government and resistance to affirmative action, are impossible to square with the overwhelming majority of blacks in America.

    If the GOP was interested in peeling off an additional section of black voters, they would be promising a new WPA/CCC, paying for it with cuts to the DoD. They could also ease up on punishing government employees as a class, instead targeting the tax advantages held by the top .1%

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Jefferson

    Trump has reached out to blacks without offering more of any of that. He’s focussed on private sector jobs and law & order instead.

    Which also works as an indirect appeal to whites.

    • Replies: @ogunsiron
    @Dave Pinsen

    In other words, he has reached out to those black people who are decent and respectable and he has declined to reach out to the majority of black people, including black republicans, who are not worth reaching out to.

  62. This is the face I see when I think of the the boot stomping on my face forever…it’s Howard Bryant, the black gay man in my nightmares.

    Adam Jones can be counted on to chase strike 3 in the dirt with the bases loaded. Every single time. He has no discipline. I wonder why.

    Baseball is a very difficult game and the brothers ain’t got time fo dat. Naturals like Griffey and Strawberrry come along every few years but it’s not a black sport bc it’s too damn hard.

  63. @Anonymous
    Speaking of Moneyball, have you ever looked into which sports have the best movies? It seems like baseball movies have been the best, lots of decent ones like Moneyball, The Natural, Field of Dreams, Major League, Mr. Baseball, Sandlot, etc. Football and basketball movies haven't been as good, and there haven't been as many I don't think. Any Given Sunday was decent I suppose. Hoosiers was really cheesy.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever..., @Danindc, @JohnnyGeo

    Hoosiers was great. The Sandlot was possibly the stupidest movie ever made. I question the sanity of anyone that doesn’t hate it.

  64. @Jonah
    ESPN.com has gone full SJW over the past couple years. I've read less and less as it's happened. I'm not the only one. Looks like the past year has seen it fall about 140 spots in terms of worldwide popularity from 110ish to 248.

    http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/espn.go.com

    After this article, I think I'm ready to switch - after 17 years of ESPN.com as one of my top bookmarks - to SI.com.

    Replies: @SnakeEyes, @aNONYMous, @Jokah Macpherson, @Carbon blob, @The preferred nomenclature is..., @young_american, @Marty T

    Yeah, I basically quit going to the site around two years ago because it was getting so stupid. And it went full SJW so fast too.

    Anyways, glad they’re suffering consequences.

  65. You may think that America got to the moon thanks to Wernher von Braun and his fellow Nazi war criminals but it fact it was black women who did it. I learned this in the Washington Post today so it must be true:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-nearly-forgotten-story-of-the-black-women-who-helped-land-a-man-on-the-moon/2016/09/12/95f2d356-7504-11e6-8149-b8d05321db62_story.html#comments

    There’s a movie coming out about these black female geniuses – I can’t wait to see it!

    Shorter version: At NACA (the predecessor to NASA) during WWII, there were a bunch of women hired to be “computers” (before digital computers existed, computer was a job title for a human, usually female – like phone operators they decided that women were best suited for this work). Most were white but a handful were black (the Federal government did not discriminate even then). A computer would sit at a mechanical calculator (adding machine) all day and do repetitive calculations so that airfoils could be optimized, etc. Men (aeronautical engineers, etc.) would set up the equations and the human computer’s job (just like the digital computers who would replace them) was to repetitively plug values into the equation and get the answers. Over and over. I would say the skill level was roughly comparable to running a cash register or being a bank teller. It must have been mind numbingly boring work. All the work that hundreds of these women did over a period of years could today be run on the computer on your desk in a couple of hours. Somehow they made a movie out of this thin gruel.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    @Jack D

    "A computer would sit at a mechanical calculator (adding machine) all day and do repetitive calculations so that airfoils could be optimized, etc."

    IIRC they were called "Comptometer Operators" in the UK. I'd see job adverts for such people in my youth but wasn't curious enough to realise what they were.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comptometer

    , @mts1
    @Jack D

    I've no time now to look it up, but there were buildings full of German women doing this in their country pre-ENIAC. All math was reduced to addition/subtraction, and each woman did one computation and passed it on. Like most Army equipment, the phrase "designed by geniuses to be run by idiots" comes to mind. Whoever designed this should be as famous for it as Henry Ford for his assembly line.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  66. @snorlax
    @Anonymous

    Urban whites like basketball more than rural whites.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    There are about four states where basketball is huge outside of cities: Kansas, Kentucky, Indiana, and North Carolina.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Steve Sailer

    I think Dr. Naismith went out to Kansas and started a chain of legendary coaches. Also, I think Dean Smith played at Kansas and coached at North Carolina. The other 2 states also had legendary coaches, Knight at Indiana and Rupp at Kentucky. Don't know the state (pun intended) of basketball in these two states when these two coaches arrived. My own home state of Iowa was sports crazy and that included basketball.

    Replies: @Hacienda, @iSteveFan

    , @David In TN
    @Steve Sailer

    Not as much as those four states, but high school basketball has always been very popular in rural Tennessee.

  67. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Former Darfur
    @Maj. Kong

    Given the level of public support to pro sports, we should be insisting that the commissioner should be a federally appointed position, rather than chosen by the owners.

    Give the owners a choice: they agree to not lobby for or accept city and state financing of venues and to implement a mandatory pay sequestration system for incoming players (e.g., a private Social Security or savings system) or we appoint a Federal Professional Major Sports Administration replacing the present Commissioners.

    Not going to happen though.

    Replies: @anonymous

    FD and MK:
    Not sure where you’re going with this. Please elaborate on how “we [would] appoint a Federal Professional Major Sports Administration replacing the present Commissioners.” How might such an Administration affect the major sports?

    Having read the other comments:
    Sorry, but the importance of sports in the lives of many of my fellows seems juvenile. I still listen via radio pretty faithfully to my favorite baseball team, but long ago stopped paying any attention at all to other sports, pro or “amateur.” (No TV in the house.). Other than being exposed to the increasingly frequent donning of camouflage uniforms when going to watch highlights on the team website, I experience none of this Cultural Crap or fascistic pageantry — the broadcasters stick to the game, or personal experiences and insights that reveal no view about any of the “issues” with which Americans have been divided and conquered.

    Why does any of you spend a dime or a minute on the likes of ESPN? None of this stuff should be any more than a pastime. Please consider starving these beasts by doing something else with your lives.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    @anonymous

    My idea was that the commissioner would be appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate, as are the governing boards of the Smithsonian, PBS, Amtrak, and other quasi-governmental agencies.

    While this sounds like heretical breaches of the free market, the leagues have antitrust exemptions. Further, this would not dilute ownership, but ensure that a monopoly would not abuse its power against the public interest. Hopefully, we would see an end to the public financing of facilities, and the introduction of a la carte TV.

    I do agree that far to much time is spent on sports, I have given no attention to the NFL recently, and I wish I had started earlier.

  68. Off topic, but is there a total news blackout on the latest DNC leaks showing how many Dem donors got ambassador posts under Obama?

    https://twitter.com/Americooligan/status/775954220109275136

    https://twitter.com/Americooligan/status/775956796515098624

    Can’t see owt on BBC or Guardian, and a Google News search for “donations ambassador” brings back one relevant story and a load of stuff about China making political donations in Australia.

    Also off topic, Brit girl raped in Rotherham “were so afraid of her alleged abusers that they moved to Spain after their complaints to the police, social services, their MP and the home secretary went unresolved, a court has heard.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/sep/14/family-rotherham-girl-fled-country-abuse-asian-men-court-told

  69. @donut
    You know Steve , may I call you Steve ? As you well know these sports posts are BS , just filler to keep your fans busy while you make some beans and franks . And let's face it if we are going to suddenly pretend to give a shit about sports we should discuss the Mets . But no , you throw this shit up in here . Only a very few talented Negros can play baseball , otherwise it's at this point white men and Dominicans . So , if you are going to persist in these distractions at least make you family a good meal . I suggest this :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEVg0Ahq320

    Replies: @Jim Sweeney, @Ron Mexico, @Alec Leamas

    There are nearly as many Venezuelans in MLB as DR, and more than Mexi, Cuban, and PR combined. The one MLB game I attended this season between Phila and Detroit there were 13 Venezuelans. They were mostly of the light skinned variety.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  70. @Anonymous
    baseball, the original civil rights sport with the deepest connection to the American story of sports and social justice, won’t willingly be one of the fronts where the battle is fought.

    What "battle"?

    Look, if White people in baseball are so bad, let's give blacks their own league.

    Replies: @TheBoom, @Truth

    “Look, if White people in baseball are so bad, let’s give blacks their own league.”

    Novel idea. But in search of fairness should a white player try to integrate them?

  71. I wish I could remember who said it, but maybe 10 years ago I read a piece wondering about declining black participation in baseball, and it quoted some black sports figure saying that it’s because it’s a game often taught by fathers to sons, and most black kids are not raised by their fathers anymore, unlike whites and latinos. Seemed to be as good of an explanation as any.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Arclight

    Arclight, I learned baseball from my father and also skating, camping, fishing, how to use a saw and a hammer, basic plumbing and electrical and how to be respectful. Not too many single moms can do that.

  72. @aNONYMous
    @Jonah

    It seems like almost any publication you pick up has this same tone now.

    It doesn't matter if it's a magazine about archaeology or a copy of Cat Fancy…. They all seem to shoehorn identity politics into the stories and columns somehow.

    More than anything, I just find it very weird. Maybe about five years or so ago, all sorts of stuff happening in the culture has started making me feel like something has changed dramatically.

    It was always there, but more of a subculture around universities and political gays. But it has become so prevalent now. Even my parents small town newspaper reads like a copy of some sociology trade publication.

    I can't explain why this has happened so suddenly. I feel uneasy about it all (I guess that's the point…to make me uneasy) I can't see anything good coming from it all.

    It makes for dull reading too.

    Replies: @TheBoom, @AndrewR, @ogunsiron, @bomag

    Agree. It makes for dull, predictable, and, ultimately, boring reading.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @TheBoom

    This is what you get when you hire kids right out of school to cut costs. Since HR does the hiring, you get the most PC kids too.

  73. @Anonymous
    @Unladen Swallow

    Almost half the NBA owners are Jewish:

    "Why Are So Many Pro Basketball Owners Jewish (Like Donald Sterling)?"

    http://forward.com/news/israel/197643/why-are-so-many-pro-basketball-owners-jewish-like/


    .There are only three Jewish players in the NBA, and no Jewish head coaches. Yet nearly half the principal owners of NBA teams are Jewish, as are the league’s current commissioner and its immediate past commissioner.

    No other major pro league in the United States has such a high proportion of Jewish owners. The NFL comes closest: Roughly a third of that league’s owners are Jewish. Just a handful of pro baseball and hockey owners are Jews.
     

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @snorlax, @ScarletNumber, @Brutusale, @ben tillman

    The Cleveland Cavaliers had a Jewish head coach for the first half of last season before he got fired. The team was so distraught that they won the NBA title without him.

  74. Whites did invent all the major American sports. Blacks did not invent any. Blacks were just imbued with the correct genetic traits to be good at most of them.

    But really, what sport did blacks invent other than drive by shootings?

    • Replies: @Federalist
    @Yak-15

    "...baseball, the original civil rights sport".... because whites made it so. Whites decided to integrate baseball (a sport that whites invented). It's the same for everything dealing with civil rights. Slavery ended because whites ended it. Whites decided that blacks should be allowed to vote. Whites ended segregation.

    Now, a black sportswriter is complaining because baseball does not "attract" enough blacks. Why should baseball have to change to attract blacks? No one stops blacks from playing baseball at any level. If you're good enough, you get paid millions of dollars to play a game and they don't care what color you are.

    White people invented baseball, football, and basketball; and created the leagues; and built the stadiums; and invented the televisions, cameras, and all of the other technology that makes it possible to broadcast major sporting events, and blacks are complaining not even about the choices of sports that they can play but that one sport does not do a good enough job of enticing blacks to dominate that sport at the professional level.

    When blacks play sports that whites invented, aren't they appropriating white culture?

    , @The most deplorable one
    @Yak-15

    Polar bear hunting?

  75. Recently there was a “season opening” reception for the Redskins football team in Tyson’s Corner, Virginia. From the news photo, the team looked like a loose collection of gangbangers from the hood … perhaps representative of the NFL today. It is not too far a stretch to expect many to them to have moved their turf battles from the hood to the stadium, with the “Man” increasingly the target as it appears to be in most places as the result of Obama’s enabling policies.

    So, after the refusal to stand for the national anthem, what can we expect next? A la the University of Missouri, will it be a refusal by Black players to play unless the NFL agrees to their (yet unstated) demands?

    As the phrase goes, “You reap what you sow ….” Perhaps a day of reckoning in the NFL similar to Ronald Reagan’s standoff with the FAA air traffic controller’s union is in order before the attempt by Black players to take over the NFL gets out of control.

    • Replies: @EdwardM
    @TheJester

    The tort lawyers, regulators, and busybodies are trying their best to squeeze football out of existence. I predict that they will succeed. They are already targeting high school, youth (Pop Warner just got sued), and college football, with the hope of drying up the pool of interested and talented players so that the professional leagues wither away.

    I suppose blacks who see white society as oppressing them will be proven correct when the white SJW ranks of the nanny state yank blacks' sport -- and the 5,000 or so scholarships to major (D-IA football) universities -- out from under them.

  76. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @SPMoore8

    That's a common feature of professional black writing and speech. There are all kinds of locutions, metaphors, and allusions used that make no sense semantically.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Bugg

    Well put. I went to integrated grade and high schools and part of every day was given over to trying to disambiguate the “locutions, metaphors and allusions” of black kids who would launch verbal tirades against their friends. Generally, they contributed little to class, but it was entertaining when they went at each other. Rap only formalized what blacks had been doing for a long time. Verbal sparring is their game, and they play no-holds-barred, which meant plenty of nonsense thrown in just because of the rhythm and rhyme of whatever musical turn of phrase was in synch with their limited grasp of a word’s meaning. Very creative, in a limited way. I once heard a black kid use the term “speed thermometer” when he was referring to a speedometer. Okay–pretty clever really–but still……I guess that learning the correct term would be “coded language — play[ing] the game the right way” and that would be–in unison now–racissssss.

    • Replies: @William BadWhite
    @Anonymous

    "Generally, they contributed little to class, but it was entertaining when they went at each other."

    In Virginia in the early to mid80's they called it "rolling the dozens". Once I was on the team bus, riding to an away football game, maybe 45 minutes or so. Two of my black teammates traded "yo momma" jokes the entire way. Some of them I had heard before: "yo momma so fat her nickname is DAMN!"...some I hadn't: "yo momma got a wooden leg with a kickstand on it"...and some made no sense at all: "yo momma drive a pink ice cream truck and don't stop for no red lights".

    The important thing in the game was to always come back quickly with the next crack. I admit I found it pretty funny. Even some of our coaches were trying not to laugh.

    I was a little surprised by one's quick wit because he was in Special Ed and despite being a big guy, didn't play much because he'd always botch his assignments (i.e. he was really dumb). He ended up working for VDOT, driving dump trucks full of asphalt around in the summer and salting roads in the winter. Not sure what happened to the other guy.

  77. @aNONYMous
    @Jonah

    It seems like almost any publication you pick up has this same tone now.

    It doesn't matter if it's a magazine about archaeology or a copy of Cat Fancy…. They all seem to shoehorn identity politics into the stories and columns somehow.

    More than anything, I just find it very weird. Maybe about five years or so ago, all sorts of stuff happening in the culture has started making me feel like something has changed dramatically.

    It was always there, but more of a subculture around universities and political gays. But it has become so prevalent now. Even my parents small town newspaper reads like a copy of some sociology trade publication.

    I can't explain why this has happened so suddenly. I feel uneasy about it all (I guess that's the point…to make me uneasy) I can't see anything good coming from it all.

    It makes for dull reading too.

    Replies: @TheBoom, @AndrewR, @ogunsiron, @bomag

    The long march through the institutions is complete.

  78. @Unladen Swallow
    I love how baseball having no black owners is proof of discrimination, unlike the NFL or NBA, which have....wait for it...no black owners either. The lack of managers and GM's in MLB is simply a result of their being fewer and fewer black American ballplayers in baseball almost every year since the early 1990's, does he really believe managers don't come from the ranks of former players? It's amazing this guy can't connect the dots.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AndrewR, @ThisIsMadness

    You think he was hired and promoted based on his critical thinking skills?

  79. There are still white people playing professional sports?

  80. I’m a sportsball fan. It has always been a nice escape. Plus, I started doing math as a kid using sportsball stats. To keep me from taking stuff apart, my father would have me work math problems using the box scores from sportsball games.

    I had to stop watching basketball years ago due to the constant sermons. I now watch exclusively through the stat sheet. The NFL has become WWE/UFC and now it is the SJW League. I pretty much just watch college football, but follow the NFL through my fantasy team.

    That leaves Honkey Ball and hockey, which have remained relatively normal, but that’s changing. ESPN put a shrieking harpy in the booth for Sunday Night Honky Ball games. It’s the typical Power Skirt, but she pretends to know the game like a pro and I guess were supposed to pretend along with her, but it is too ridiculous to tolerate.

    Looks like it is hockey, where the only black thing is the puck.

    P.S. I’m surprised no one as mentioned Bryant’s wife beating problem. He got jammed up for strangling his old lady on a city street and then played the race card to avoid punishment.

    • Replies: @Tex
    @The Z Blog


    P.S. I’m surprised no one as mentioned Bryant’s wife beating problem. He got jammed up for strangling his old lady on a city street and then played the race card to avoid punishment.
     
    The wife is white, FWIW.
  81. @Jonah
    ESPN.com has gone full SJW over the past couple years. I've read less and less as it's happened. I'm not the only one. Looks like the past year has seen it fall about 140 spots in terms of worldwide popularity from 110ish to 248.

    http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/espn.go.com

    After this article, I think I'm ready to switch - after 17 years of ESPN.com as one of my top bookmarks - to SI.com.

    Replies: @SnakeEyes, @aNONYMous, @Jokah Macpherson, @Carbon blob, @The preferred nomenclature is..., @young_american, @Marty T

    For me SI has the same problems. Fox Sports would be my go-to site if the design weren’t so clunky.

    Thankfully ESPNFC is largely free of the SJW nonsense that has infested the rest of the site.

  82. @Anonymous
    @gruff

    With American whites being only slightly more represented in proportion to their population than American blacks, what explains why Americam whites don't play baseball anymore?

    Replies: @gruff

    If whites are only slightly more represented in baseball than their percentage of population, then that indicates that they are playing baseball. No explanation needed.

  83. @anonymous
    @Former Darfur

    FD and MK:
    Not sure where you're going with this. Please elaborate on how "we [would] appoint a Federal Professional Major Sports Administration replacing the present Commissioners." How might such an Administration affect the major sports?

    Having read the other comments:
    Sorry, but the importance of sports in the lives of many of my fellows seems juvenile. I still listen via radio pretty faithfully to my favorite baseball team, but long ago stopped paying any attention at all to other sports, pro or "amateur." (No TV in the house.). Other than being exposed to the increasingly frequent donning of camouflage uniforms when going to watch highlights on the team website, I experience none of this Cultural Crap or fascistic pageantry -- the broadcasters stick to the game, or personal experiences and insights that reveal no view about any of the "issues" with which Americans have been divided and conquered.

    Why does any of you spend a dime or a minute on the likes of ESPN? None of this stuff should be any more than a pastime. Please consider starving these beasts by doing something else with your lives.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong

    My idea was that the commissioner would be appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate, as are the governing boards of the Smithsonian, PBS, Amtrak, and other quasi-governmental agencies.

    While this sounds like heretical breaches of the free market, the leagues have antitrust exemptions. Further, this would not dilute ownership, but ensure that a monopoly would not abuse its power against the public interest. Hopefully, we would see an end to the public financing of facilities, and the introduction of a la carte TV.

    I do agree that far to much time is spent on sports, I have given no attention to the NFL recently, and I wish I had started earlier.

  84. @Maj. Kong
    @Anonymous

    Many Hispanics are blacks from the Dominican Republic.

    Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Many Hispanics are blacks from the Dominican Republic.

    This is where the NFL = MLB analogy fails.

    A more appropriate analogy would be NHL = MLB.

    -Lots of foreign nationals on each team
    -The league has teams in the U.S and Canada
    -Everyone respectfully stands for the national anthem of the country in which that particular game is being played

    Does Adam Jones want to take a knee in Toronto, too?

    Damn it, will some one please ask how spoiled black millionaires who play a children’s game feel about “O Canada”?!?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Gunnar von Cowtown


    Damn it, will some one please ask how spoiled black millionaires who play a children’s game feel about “O Canada”?!?
     
    Ferguson Jenkins was arrested upon returning to his native Ontario with a modicum of cocaine. But a Canfield judge let him off.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  85. “Baseball — It’s a White Man’s Game by Design”

    I guess if you’re not racist, that title isn’t as impactful as it was meant to be.

    What? You mean there is an activity which was invented by “white” people and in which the number of “white” participants is roughly on par with their representation in the population? WHERE’S THE OUTRAGE!!???

  86. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @robot

    I've noticed lots of baseball chat in recent years from ESPN, Deadspin, etc., expressing how utterly life-affirming and inspiring it is when a player engages in showboating (e.g. standing at home plate and admiring a home run, and/or doing an ostentatious bat flip). It's presented as standing up to The Man (who is maybe the ghost of Ted Williams, or whoever is in charge of How Baseball Should Be Played), and moving baseball forward into The Current Year.

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Forbes

    What’s even worse is that every player has to give thanks to the gods when they cross the plate after hitting a home run (IIRC, that’s how it started, anyway). Now players go through the routine of thumping their chest and pointing to the sky when they get to first base on an intentional walk. It’s gotten utterly ridiculous.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @SPMoore8

    Agree! Another reason to stick to radio, per my previous comment.

  87. @TheBoom
    @aNONYMous

    Agree. It makes for dull, predictable, and, ultimately, boring reading.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    This is what you get when you hire kids right out of school to cut costs. Since HR does the hiring, you get the most PC kids too.

  88. @Thomas
    What's going on with sports this year is even enough to penetrate the cuck hivemind (then again, even a stopped clock is right twice a day): http://www.nationalreview.com/article/440002/ncaa-north-carolina-boycott-progressives-weaponizing-sports

    Replies: @Alec Leamas

    A non-cucked governor could call the NCAA’s bluff and whip the legislature to revoke the NCAA’s authorization to conduct business in the State.

    Perhaps a letter along the lines of “We regret your decision to cease conducting business in the Tar Heel State. Accordingly, and in conformity with your wishes, we have revoked the NCAA’s authorization to conduct business in North Carolina. All North Carolina Public Universities have hereby been withdrawn from the NCAA. To the extent that North Carolina’s private Universities wish to remain member institutions in the NCAA, our legislature has withdrawn State funding and State nonprofit status from said institutions. NCAA merchandise sold in North Carolina by third party vendors is now subject to a sales tax of 80% of its market value. The North Carolina Department of Public Safety has revoked the authority of the NCAA to sanction athletic events within the State of North Carolina . . . ”

    These punks get away with this bullshit because they get to pick and choose flagship events on which to grandstand while still reaping the benefits of conducting business in the States that they’re protesting.

    • Replies: @Marty T
    @Alec Leamas

    If he wins re-election, I'd so love to see Gov. McCrory hammer the NCAA like that. But he's gotta win re-election first and that's gonna be tough.

  89. @donut
    You know Steve , may I call you Steve ? As you well know these sports posts are BS , just filler to keep your fans busy while you make some beans and franks . And let's face it if we are going to suddenly pretend to give a shit about sports we should discuss the Mets . But no , you throw this shit up in here . Only a very few talented Negros can play baseball , otherwise it's at this point white men and Dominicans . So , if you are going to persist in these distractions at least make you family a good meal . I suggest this :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEVg0Ahq320

    Replies: @Jim Sweeney, @Ron Mexico, @Alec Leamas

    Cheese on seafood is a big no-no in Italian cuisine.

    • Replies: @donut
    @Alec Leamas

    Yeah , I've heard that too but I don't believe it's a hard and fast rule . One of the best seafood dishes I ever had was a version of fisherman's rice at a restaurant in Messina and it had cheese in it . That was in 1982 so you know it was good if I remember it 34 years later . Anyway , I plan to make this tonight or tomorrow so I'll let you know . I've made a lot of this guys dishes and everyone's a winner babe .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-GkwIRbLw8

    Fudge packer alert !!

    During that same time in Messina two of my friends and I went to a restaurant one night . At first we were the only ones in there . We ordered some kind of salad . The waiter brought the salad out right away , meanwhile we had gone up to this little buffet they had set up and got some goodies to eat . By the time we had finished our little bits and pieces our food had come so we never touched the salad . About halfway through our meal another party came in . The waiter took their orders came over to our table asked if we were going to eat the salad and when we said no he picked it up and went right over and put it down on the other table. Why not ? we never touched it but I suspect that here in the USA somebody would have had the vapours .

  90. @Former Darfur
    @robot

    Blacks liked baseball when they had a league of their own. Many Negro League black fans lost interest in baseball even though there were some American and some Latin American blacks playing.

    Replies: @Big Bill

    What happened to the Negro Leagues is just another facet of Tragic Integration.

    On an intellectual level, blacks don’t like being kept out of white stuff.

    When they are integrated, however, they realize they don’t particularly like being surrounded by white folks and having to “ack white” all the time.

    As far as baseball is concerned, why on earth would they like to waste their time watching a bunch of alien white folks for 99.5% of the game in hopes of seeing a couple Jackie Robinson at-bats?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Big Bill

    "What happened to the Negro Leagues is just another facet of Tragic Integration."

    No, it was called progress.

    "On an intellectual level, blacks don’t like being kept out of white stuff."

    According to who?

    "When they are integrated, however, they realize they don’t particularly like being surrounded by white folks and having to “ack white” all the time."

    Are you not subjecting yourself to SJW style generalizations?

    "As far as baseball is concerned, why on earth would they like to waste their time watching a bunch of alien white folks for 99.5% of the game in hopes of seeing a couple Jackie Robinson at-bats?"

    Assuming that blacks feel this way.

  91. He stood up by kneeling down

    Jesus: will the cultural appropriation never end? Credit where credit’s due, please:

  92. @syonredux

    Baseball, Jones said, is not the black-dominated world of football or basketball, saying that the game lacks the untouchable wealth of black superstar power, and even a reputable volume of rank and file for it to support a similar form of protest. In demographic and attitude, Jones said baseball is “a white man’s game.”

     

    Let's see, we start out with "Black" as the preferred racial signifier at the beginning of the article. But then.....

    Major League Baseball is 8 percent African-American and more than 30 percent Latino,
     
    we shift to African-American....probably because a huge percentage of those Latinos are also Black....

    Replies: @duncsbaby, @Hibernian, @attilathehen

    I think the Hispanic players are more like 1/3 Black Hispanic than 1/2. Almost none of the American born players are Black Hispanic, and there are a fair number of American born Hispanic players.

  93. @SPMoore8
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    What's even worse is that every player has to give thanks to the gods when they cross the plate after hitting a home run (IIRC, that's how it started, anyway). Now players go through the routine of thumping their chest and pointing to the sky when they get to first base on an intentional walk. It's gotten utterly ridiculous.

    Replies: @anonymous

    Agree! Another reason to stick to radio, per my previous comment.

  94. @Anonymous
    baseball, the original civil rights sport with the deepest connection to the American story of sports and social justice, won’t willingly be one of the fronts where the battle is fought.

    What "battle"?

    Look, if White people in baseball are so bad, let's give blacks their own league.

    Replies: @TheBoom, @Truth

    Look, if White people in baseball are so bad, let’s give blacks their own league.

    LOL, “we” had one, dumbshit, “you” signed all of the players.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Truth

    The player/entrepreneur who founded the Negro League, Rube Foster, was a pretty impressive guy:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rube_Foster

    His breakdown in 1926 was sad.

    , @The most deplorable one
    @Truth

    Wait! I thought it was racist to segregate people by race.

    Is that another of those definitions that depends on who is using it?

    Replies: @Truth

  95. @Truth
    @Anonymous




    Look, if White people in baseball are so bad, let’s give blacks their own league.
     
    LOL, "we" had one, dumbshit, "you" signed all of the players.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @The most deplorable one

    The player/entrepreneur who founded the Negro League, Rube Foster, was a pretty impressive guy:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rube_Foster

    His breakdown in 1926 was sad.

  96. @Dave Pinsen
    @Maj. Kong

    Anti-militarist without being anti-military is the balance to strike.

    De-federalizing the National Guard wouldn't be a bad idea either. If they're needed for domestic purposes, governors can activate them. But they shouldn't be used for expeditionary wars.

    One of Trump's false notes is about "rebuilding the military". We spend an enormous amount on it. But I get why he's doing it. The best case scenario would be less militarism and less money spent on the military. But a reversion to Reagan's model of spending a lot on the military but using it judiciously would be an improvement over the last 15 years.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Giving Chris Christie real authority over fighter jets, without elevating him to the Presidency? Priceless!

  97. @Steve Sailer
    @snorlax

    There are about four states where basketball is huge outside of cities: Kansas, Kentucky, Indiana, and North Carolina.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @David In TN

    I think Dr. Naismith went out to Kansas and started a chain of legendary coaches. Also, I think Dean Smith played at Kansas and coached at North Carolina. The other 2 states also had legendary coaches, Knight at Indiana and Rupp at Kentucky. Don’t know the state (pun intended) of basketball in these two states when these two coaches arrived. My own home state of Iowa was sports crazy and that included basketball.

    • Replies: @Hacienda
    @Hibernian

    Basketball was huge in Indiana, much before Knight. The Indiana Pacers were the most successful ABA team and had George McGinness, Freddy Brown, Mel Daniels, Billy Keller (pudgy and short, but canny, strong, quick white point guard that is now extinct in professional basketball). High School basketball games were frenzied with a high level of sportsmanship and attendance. The cheerleaders were pretty and the TV announcers were restrained, knowledgeable, and reverential. And impartial for the most part. Unlike the cretins who ass-lick the home team in other places and these days. You probably knew John Wooden won a state championship in Indiana.

    Pick up basketball is played at a very high level in Indiana- white guys that are 6'4"-6'11". Put the fear into the shorter tweener colored races. Probably the best white public park basketball is played in Indiana although haven't seen what that's like in the other basketball states.

    Replies: @hhsiii

    , @iSteveFan
    @Hibernian

    Like Dean Smith, Adolf Rupp played at Kansas under Phog Allen.

  98. @AndyBoy
    I enjoy the discomfort of White sports-cucks.

    All these White guys who have poured billions of dollars and tons of attention into games now dominated by Blacks.

    Nothing sillier than a White guy going all gaga over his latest Black sports crush. And now the Blacks are increasingly disrespecting the country these White Cucks claim to love. Sets up an interesting conflict!

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @David In TN, @Clyde

    “I enjoy the discomfort of White sports-cucks.”

    Yes, the cucks tend to be big sports fans. Hero-worship of black athletes in particular is a favorite trope with them.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @David In TN

    "Yes, the cucks tend to be big sports fans. Hero-worship of black athletes in particular is a favorite trope with them."

    No, American men tend to be big sports fans. They love competition. They love winning. They care little about whether a black man or a white man hit the home run to win the game, so long as their team wins. Its hero-worship of athletes, mind you.

  99. @Anonymous
    @SPMoore8

    That's a common feature of professional black writing and speech. There are all kinds of locutions, metaphors, and allusions used that make no sense semantically.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Bugg

    Black guys simply are more likely to play football or basketball instead. High school coaches make good athletes of any color commit to one sport pretty much by sophomore year. The idea of being a pro in any sport is a longshot. But baseball makes it’s players go through usually 3 or more years of minors before you get to the show. The NBA and NFL use college as their minor leagues. And even with that baseball has no problem getting lots of Latinos , both American and from Latin America.

    Baseball is losing popularity generally, not only in black communities. Racism has nothing to do with it. Frankly find baseball very long and boring anyway. It’s tedious in an era of video games. Was a time not long ago would watch Yankee games every night; haven’t watched on in 2 or 3 years. Basketball and football are really more fun to watch and play. The Yankees own in partnership with an English soccer team an MLS franchise which is drawing very well in the Bronx. May not happen in my lifetime, but at some point soccer is going to catch up. People have always claimed the NFL would put a team in London, but now more likely the EPL or another Euro league will put a few teams in the US. Too much money for it not to happen.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Bugg

    If they ever bring the supersonic airliner back, an English Premiere League team in New York would definitely happen.

    At subsonic speeds the travel time problem is pretty bad, though. Yet, the Brooklyn Dodgers and New York Giants moved to California in 1958, a year before jetliner service, forcing the other teams in the National League to make long trips to California via propeller Constellations. But the 707 jetliner came into service in 1959, linking the coasts.

    The record for JFK-Heathrow for a current generation technology plane with tremendous west-to-east tailwinds is 5 hours and 16 minutes. But a Concorde did it in 2 hours and 53 minutes.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/12/travel/new-york-london-record-flight-time/

    The scheduled time JFK - Heathrow is 7 hours and 24 minutes.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @Chrisnonymous, @ScarletNumber

    , @Anonymous
    @Bugg

    Soccer is at least as boring to watch as baseball, if not more so. That's why its most devoted fans are into hooliganism as much as the game itself. A big part of the appeal is that watching the game serves as an excuse for boozing, brawling, and general rowdiness. The only thing it has going for it is that the games are relatively short at 90 minutes long. Baseball wasn't always bad in this respect. Games used to be regularly around 2 hours or so a few decades ago.

    I'm not a soccer fan and find it boring to watch in general, but I can appreciate decent soccer play and be somewhat entertained by it. But this level of play is only seen at the World Cup or top Euro league levels, and even there it's relatively rare. Even at the top World or Euro Cup finals, games are regularly tied snoozefests decided by penalty kicks. The MLS is terrible and just unwatchable.

    If soccer does become big in the US, it'll be because of immigration, not because of its entertainment value.

  100. @The Z Blog
    I'm a sportsball fan. It has always been a nice escape. Plus, I started doing math as a kid using sportsball stats. To keep me from taking stuff apart, my father would have me work math problems using the box scores from sportsball games.

    I had to stop watching basketball years ago due to the constant sermons. I now watch exclusively through the stat sheet. The NFL has become WWE/UFC and now it is the SJW League. I pretty much just watch college football, but follow the NFL through my fantasy team.

    That leaves Honkey Ball and hockey, which have remained relatively normal, but that's changing. ESPN put a shrieking harpy in the booth for Sunday Night Honky Ball games. It's the typical Power Skirt, but she pretends to know the game like a pro and I guess were supposed to pretend along with her, but it is too ridiculous to tolerate.

    Looks like it is hockey, where the only black thing is the puck.

    P.S. I'm surprised no one as mentioned Bryant's wife beating problem. He got jammed up for strangling his old lady on a city street and then played the race card to avoid punishment.

    Replies: @Tex

    P.S. I’m surprised no one as mentioned Bryant’s wife beating problem. He got jammed up for strangling his old lady on a city street and then played the race card to avoid punishment.

    The wife is white, FWIW.

  101. @Steve Sailer
    @snorlax

    There are about four states where basketball is huge outside of cities: Kansas, Kentucky, Indiana, and North Carolina.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @David In TN

    Not as much as those four states, but high school basketball has always been very popular in rural Tennessee.

  102. @Anonymous
    Speaking of Moneyball, have you ever looked into which sports have the best movies? It seems like baseball movies have been the best, lots of decent ones like Moneyball, The Natural, Field of Dreams, Major League, Mr. Baseball, Sandlot, etc. Football and basketball movies haven't been as good, and there haven't been as many I don't think. Any Given Sunday was decent I suppose. Hoosiers was really cheesy.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever..., @Danindc, @JohnnyGeo

    The Fish that Saved Pittsburgh

  103. @Bugg
    @Anonymous

    Black guys simply are more likely to play football or basketball instead. High school coaches make good athletes of any color commit to one sport pretty much by sophomore year. The idea of being a pro in any sport is a longshot. But baseball makes it's players go through usually 3 or more years of minors before you get to the show. The NBA and NFL use college as their minor leagues. And even with that baseball has no problem getting lots of Latinos , both American and from Latin America.

    Baseball is losing popularity generally, not only in black communities. Racism has nothing to do with it. Frankly find baseball very long and boring anyway. It's tedious in an era of video games. Was a time not long ago would watch Yankee games every night; haven't watched on in 2 or 3 years. Basketball and football are really more fun to watch and play. The Yankees own in partnership with an English soccer team an MLS franchise which is drawing very well in the Bronx. May not happen in my lifetime, but at some point soccer is going to catch up. People have always claimed the NFL would put a team in London, but now more likely the EPL or another Euro league will put a few teams in the US. Too much money for it not to happen.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous

    If they ever bring the supersonic airliner back, an English Premiere League team in New York would definitely happen.

    At subsonic speeds the travel time problem is pretty bad, though. Yet, the Brooklyn Dodgers and New York Giants moved to California in 1958, a year before jetliner service, forcing the other teams in the National League to make long trips to California via propeller Constellations. But the 707 jetliner came into service in 1959, linking the coasts.

    The record for JFK-Heathrow for a current generation technology plane with tremendous west-to-east tailwinds is 5 hours and 16 minutes. But a Concorde did it in 2 hours and 53 minutes.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/12/travel/new-york-london-record-flight-time/

    The scheduled time JFK – Heathrow is 7 hours and 24 minutes.

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    @Steve Sailer

    The Concorde was perfectly capable of staying in service another 20 years or longer. It was politically taken down by people-a minority of elitist people- in the UK and France who did it mostly out of spite.

    And once the cost of the aircraft had been written off, it was a moneymaker: not huge, but it made a profit. It also created jobs and an experience base for maintenance people on the only Mach 2+ large aircraft left in the West. (The B-1 was intended as a supersonic bomber but the B-1B is only marginally supersonic now. With the retirement in the early seventies of the B-58 and the SR in the nineties, only the Russians have anything bigger than a fighter capable of Mach 2 flight anymore.)

    Sonic booms were never the problem. Envy and a desire to cut down progress were the problems.

    Replies: @JerryC

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    How about a hyperloop? Too far?

    , @ScarletNumber
    @Steve Sailer


    Yet, the Brooklyn Dodgers and New York Giants moved to California in 1958, a year before jetliner service, forcing the other teams in the National League to make long trips to California via propeller Constellations.
     
    But it helped that when teams went out to California to play one team, it was immediately followed by a series at the other team.

    But the 707 jetliner came into service in 1959, linking the coasts.
     
    Which enabled the American League to expand to Los Angeles in 1961 without putting a sister team with them.
  104. @Maj. Kong
    @Anonymous

    The Pentagon was revealed to be paying for much of it.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/05/454834662/pentagon-paid-sports-teams-millions-for-paid-patriotism-events

    While millennia of Anglo-Saxon tradition casts aspersions toward a standing army, the Average Joe conservative of today regards the military as one of the only institutions in society to maintain "purity". Facts, such as the fact that the military has long been a pit of leftist social engineering, are thrown out in favor of the pageantry.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @DCThrowback, @peterike, @John Mansfield

    All of these comments are spot on. If people knew how much our “heroes” were getting paid to “volunteer”, they might be less likely to stand up and cheer. But since we are at fiat currency and fiat reflexive love for all things “pure”, here we are.

    Recommend Andrew Bacevich’s piece on “cheap grace”, which is what the set up hero reunions, American flags, military presence at games, etc. led to.

    http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/175423/tomgram%3A_andrew_bacevich%2C_playing_ball_with_the_pentagon/

  105. I suppose that if Baseball sees an advantage in filling the team with oversized brutes then then the team demography can only “evolve” in Bryant’s preferred direction.

  106. @anon
    When I'm taking the bus to the grocery store, I ride by a nice baseball field that the local MLB team built in the inner city to encourage blacks to take baseball up again. It's full of weeds and I have never seen it being used. ......Damn racist white people.

    Replies: @Joe Schmoe

    When I’m taking the bus to the grocery store, I ride by a nice baseball field that the local MLB team built in the inner city to encourage blacks to take baseball up again. It’s full of weeds and I have never seen it being used. ……Damn racist white people.

    Yeah, but the local MLB team isn’t keeping it mowed, or supplying coaches, clinics and leagues. You know, all those things that are done by volunteers at Little Leagues all across the country.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Joe Schmoe

    And that lawn-mowing volunteerism is just more white privilege.

    When will you people stop destroying other races by volunteering?

  107. @Anonymous
    @Unladen Swallow

    Almost half the NBA owners are Jewish:

    "Why Are So Many Pro Basketball Owners Jewish (Like Donald Sterling)?"

    http://forward.com/news/israel/197643/why-are-so-many-pro-basketball-owners-jewish-like/


    .There are only three Jewish players in the NBA, and no Jewish head coaches. Yet nearly half the principal owners of NBA teams are Jewish, as are the league’s current commissioner and its immediate past commissioner.

    No other major pro league in the United States has such a high proportion of Jewish owners. The NFL comes closest: Roughly a third of that league’s owners are Jewish. Just a handful of pro baseball and hockey owners are Jews.
     

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @snorlax, @ScarletNumber, @Brutusale, @ben tillman

    Dunno. Maybe we should ask Basketball Hall of Famer Abe Saperstein.

    Wife beater and professional token Howard Bryant is the last person I’d listen to on the subject.

  108. @Maj. Kong
    @Anonymous

    Not too long ago, we had 3/4ths Jewish commissioners. Selig (MLB), Stern (NBA), and Bettman (NHL).

    Now we have a WASP, an Irish Catholic, and two Jews. No complaints that the NFL didn't pick Rice instead of Goodell.

    Given the level of public support to pro sports, we should be insisting that the commissioner should be a federally appointed position, rather than chosen by the owners.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @Studley

    Now we have a WASP, an Irish Catholic, and two Jews. No complaints that the NFL didn’t pick Rice instead of Goodell

    .

    At least it’s more diverse than the Supreme Court.

  109. @SPMoore8
    a deafening silence of incuriosity -- The author is the kind of guy who thinks this kind of writing makes sense and marks him as an intellectual. It makes him sound pretentious and rather silly. There are several other examples in the article, e.g., "soil"? As in "ground"? Please.

    Actually I read the ballplayer's comments and I think what he meant to say is that there won't be any Kaepernick's in baseball because it is dominated by whites, in a way that neither football or basketball are. However, because his reasoning is as casual and as loud as his clothes, he just said, "It's a white man's game." There's nothing deep here.

    Thus:

    saying that the game lacks the untouchable wealth of black superstar power

    He didn't say that, and if there was a black guy who could pitch like Kershaw or hit like Trout he'd be lionized. As it is, McCutcheon is rightly praised but he's just not that great.

    play the game the right way — repels the stylish flairs of a modern player, kids raised in a time of selfies and TV highlights

    So, in other words, baseball doesn't have as much showboating and histrionics as the NBA and the NFL, which black people are really good at. Point taken. Point also not wanted.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @guest, @Brutusale, @Abe

    Showboating in baseball still carries risk. Oops, that 98 mph fastball got away from me!

    • Replies: @Abe
    @Brutusale


    Showboating in baseball still carries risk. Oops, that 98 mph fastball got away from me!
     
    Yeah, but in a world where worrying about a Presidential nominee's disconcerting habit of tapping out and hitting her head on the curb is "sexist", I'm sure any day now some enterprising JOURNOLISTer will make the connection between beaning and lynching, complete with fabricated quote- e.g. Walter Johnson threatening to feed Honus Wagner some "strange fruit" if he didn't cut-out the show-boating.
  110. @Maj. Kong
    @Dave Pinsen

    With or without two terms of President Trump, the political right would do well do adopt an anti-militarist stance. It may be hard to accomplish without the JCS being entirely SJWs, but a better project needs to be undertook than Scott McConnell's.

    A good start would be trying to give the state Governors real authority, and funding responsibility, over the National Guard.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Joe Schmoe, @guest

    Texas has a state guard.

    https://tmd.texas.gov/texas-state-guard

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    @Joe Schmoe

    Perhaps that is why Tom Kratman wrote State of Disobedience:

    https://www.amazon.com/State-Disobedience-Tom-Kratman/dp/0743499204/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1473893016&sr=1-1&keywords=state+of+disobedience

  111. @Steve Sailer
    @Bugg

    If they ever bring the supersonic airliner back, an English Premiere League team in New York would definitely happen.

    At subsonic speeds the travel time problem is pretty bad, though. Yet, the Brooklyn Dodgers and New York Giants moved to California in 1958, a year before jetliner service, forcing the other teams in the National League to make long trips to California via propeller Constellations. But the 707 jetliner came into service in 1959, linking the coasts.

    The record for JFK-Heathrow for a current generation technology plane with tremendous west-to-east tailwinds is 5 hours and 16 minutes. But a Concorde did it in 2 hours and 53 minutes.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/12/travel/new-york-london-record-flight-time/

    The scheduled time JFK - Heathrow is 7 hours and 24 minutes.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @Chrisnonymous, @ScarletNumber

    The Concorde was perfectly capable of staying in service another 20 years or longer. It was politically taken down by people-a minority of elitist people- in the UK and France who did it mostly out of spite.

    And once the cost of the aircraft had been written off, it was a moneymaker: not huge, but it made a profit. It also created jobs and an experience base for maintenance people on the only Mach 2+ large aircraft left in the West. (The B-1 was intended as a supersonic bomber but the B-1B is only marginally supersonic now. With the retirement in the early seventies of the B-58 and the SR in the nineties, only the Russians have anything bigger than a fighter capable of Mach 2 flight anymore.)

    Sonic booms were never the problem. Envy and a desire to cut down progress were the problems.

    • Replies: @JerryC
    @Former Darfur

    The Concorde was retired because 1) It was a maintenance nightmare and 2) London-NYC is really the only commercially viable route in the world for costly supersonic passenger flights. It was always a big money loser for Air France and they only kept at it as long as they did out of national pride.

  112. @Hibernian
    @Steve Sailer

    I think Dr. Naismith went out to Kansas and started a chain of legendary coaches. Also, I think Dean Smith played at Kansas and coached at North Carolina. The other 2 states also had legendary coaches, Knight at Indiana and Rupp at Kentucky. Don't know the state (pun intended) of basketball in these two states when these two coaches arrived. My own home state of Iowa was sports crazy and that included basketball.

    Replies: @Hacienda, @iSteveFan

    Basketball was huge in Indiana, much before Knight. The Indiana Pacers were the most successful ABA team and had George McGinness, Freddy Brown, Mel Daniels, Billy Keller (pudgy and short, but canny, strong, quick white point guard that is now extinct in professional basketball). High School basketball games were frenzied with a high level of sportsmanship and attendance. The cheerleaders were pretty and the TV announcers were restrained, knowledgeable, and reverential. And impartial for the most part. Unlike the cretins who ass-lick the home team in other places and these days. You probably knew John Wooden won a state championship in Indiana.

    Pick up basketball is played at a very high level in Indiana- white guys that are 6’4″-6’11”. Put the fear into the shorter tweener colored races. Probably the best white public park basketball is played in Indiana although haven’t seen what that’s like in the other basketball states.

    • Replies: @hhsiii
    @Hacienda

    Yeah, Indiana basketball was big long before Knight. Yup, Wooden was a great high school player and at Purdue. The Indiana Rubber Man. Then Branch McCracken at Indiana. He had great white and black players, like Archie Dees and Walt Bellamy. Everett Case was from Indiana and he pretty much made basketball on Tobacco Road, with NC State and the annual Dixie Classic. Frank McGuire was hired by UNC to break NC State's stranglehold in the Southern Conference/ACC. And he brought Indiana players with him, like Norm Sloan, who ended up coaching NC State.

    So when you have the 1974 title game it's John Wooden coaching UCLA versus Norm Sloan coaching NC State.

    Of course then you have the North Carolina Kansas connection. Dean Smith played for Phog Allen, and he or Roy Williams have coached UNC for most f the last half century.

    Billy Keller played on that Purdue team that whipped UNC in the Final 4 in 1969. Mount never amounted to much as a pro but yeah, Keller was a key part of this great Pacers teams. If you read the Book Loose Balls by Terry Pluto it goes into how Mount was a great scorer but soft, whereas Keller turned himself into a good pro.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Hacienda

  113. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Boxing is way ahead of other sports in movies. Baseball is probably 2nd.

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @ScarletNumber

    East Bound and Down, not a movie of course, is great.

    There was a pretty good made for HBO movie called Long Gone in the ’80s. William Petersen as the player manager, Virginia Madsen as his girlfriend Dixie Lee Boxx.

    It’s supposed to be Class D ball in the late ’50s south but of course they get history wrong. Peterson has a black player, Joe Louis Brown, but they pretend he is Venezuelan so he can play. But Hank Aaron played in the Sally League (South Atlantic League) for Jacksonville Florida in 1953. Frank Robinson for Columbia, SC in 1954.

  114. @Anonymous
    Major League Baseball is 8 percent African-American and more than 30 percent Latino, signed in large numbers for pennies on the dollar. Economically, Latino players are treated as far more disposable than Americans or players from the Asian market, and have been treated with second-class attitudes for just as long.

    Hispanic players are just doing jobs blacks won't do.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @anonymous, @Forbes

    Alex Rodriguez treated economically as disposable, pennies on the dollar, with second class attitude. How about Yasiel Puig, Yoenis Cespedes, Albert Pujols, David Ortiz, Robinson Cano, Felix Hernandez, Manny Ramirez, Mariano Rivera, Pedro Martinez, Carlos Delgado…

  115. @gruff
    Probably one of the main reasons more blacks don't play baseballs is that they mostly live in cities and there aren't many baseball fields in inner cities anymore. As they get pushed out by gentrification, expect that to change.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Brutusale, @Lazy Hero

    I don’t know where you live, but the city of Boston maintains baseball fields for minority youth. The teams are mostly made up of Hispanic kids with a smattering of blacks and whites.

    My buddy, a bleeding-heart Jewish lawyer from one of Boston’s wealthy “W” suburbs (the one the Red $ox’s David “Big Papi” Ortiz lives in) has coached one of the teams in Boston for a couple years. Two of his three black U16 players were baby daddies. He actively pursues black kids to play, but there’s little interest. He’s finally willing to concede that Hispanics, culturally, are more attracted to baseball than blacks.

    • Replies: @hhsiii
    @Brutusale

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reviving_Baseball_in_Inner_Cities

    There isn't much informal baseball ball playing these days. When I w a kid we had little league, and also sometimes just a big group of us would stat up a game at a local field. You gotta have a big crew of kids. I see empty ballfields a lot when I'm driving around. It isn't just inner city kids. The older kid players who are any good play in travel leagues.

    Replies: @Brutusale, @Bugg

  116. @aNONYMous
    @Jonah

    It seems like almost any publication you pick up has this same tone now.

    It doesn't matter if it's a magazine about archaeology or a copy of Cat Fancy…. They all seem to shoehorn identity politics into the stories and columns somehow.

    More than anything, I just find it very weird. Maybe about five years or so ago, all sorts of stuff happening in the culture has started making me feel like something has changed dramatically.

    It was always there, but more of a subculture around universities and political gays. But it has become so prevalent now. Even my parents small town newspaper reads like a copy of some sociology trade publication.

    I can't explain why this has happened so suddenly. I feel uneasy about it all (I guess that's the point…to make me uneasy) I can't see anything good coming from it all.

    It makes for dull reading too.

    Replies: @TheBoom, @AndrewR, @ogunsiron, @bomag

    It’s the dominant culture among all those who write, no matter what the subject.

  117. @Jack D
    You may think that America got to the moon thanks to Wernher von Braun and his fellow Nazi war criminals but it fact it was black women who did it. I learned this in the Washington Post today so it must be true:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-nearly-forgotten-story-of-the-black-women-who-helped-land-a-man-on-the-moon/2016/09/12/95f2d356-7504-11e6-8149-b8d05321db62_story.html#comments

    There's a movie coming out about these black female geniuses - I can't wait to see it!

    Shorter version: At NACA (the predecessor to NASA) during WWII, there were a bunch of women hired to be "computers" (before digital computers existed, computer was a job title for a human, usually female - like phone operators they decided that women were best suited for this work). Most were white but a handful were black (the Federal government did not discriminate even then). A computer would sit at a mechanical calculator (adding machine) all day and do repetitive calculations so that airfoils could be optimized, etc. Men (aeronautical engineers, etc.) would set up the equations and the human computer's job (just like the digital computers who would replace them) was to repetitively plug values into the equation and get the answers. Over and over. I would say the skill level was roughly comparable to running a cash register or being a bank teller. It must have been mind numbingly boring work. All the work that hundreds of these women did over a period of years could today be run on the computer on your desk in a couple of hours. Somehow they made a movie out of this thin gruel.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @mts1

    “A computer would sit at a mechanical calculator (adding machine) all day and do repetitive calculations so that airfoils could be optimized, etc.”

    IIRC they were called “Comptometer Operators” in the UK. I’d see job adverts for such people in my youth but wasn’t curious enough to realise what they were.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comptometer

  118. @Dave Pinsen
    @Maj. Kong

    Trump has reached out to blacks without offering more of any of that. He's focussed on private sector jobs and law & order instead.

    Which also works as an indirect appeal to whites.

    Replies: @ogunsiron

    In other words, he has reached out to those black people who are decent and respectable and he has declined to reach out to the majority of black people, including black republicans, who are not worth reaching out to.

  119. These are the gestures we say we respect: the tough, uncompromising American virtue of commitment and conviction, of making it plain in the face of opposition and being right.

    I know what Howie means. Just the other day, I gave a white power salute in solidarity with the black power saluters in the NFL. In front of a bunch of Jews and blacks. They were all high-fiving me for my tough, uncompromising commitment and conviction, my solidarity with blacks and Jews; for having the guts to do for myself and my race what blacks were doing for themselves and theirs, what Jews and Israelis do for themselves and theirs, etc.

    I’m sure Howie would agree with them; unless we’re talking about gestures he says he respects, but really doesn’t.

    Baseball has never been very good at evolution or change. The game has two black managers, no black owners and one black general manager.

    Blacks won’t buy baseball teams, news at 11.

    It has one Latino owner, no Latino managers and one Latino general manager.

    Latinos won’t hire Hispanic managers, news at 11.

  120. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @robot

    I've noticed lots of baseball chat in recent years from ESPN, Deadspin, etc., expressing how utterly life-affirming and inspiring it is when a player engages in showboating (e.g. standing at home plate and admiring a home run, and/or doing an ostentatious bat flip). It's presented as standing up to The Man (who is maybe the ghost of Ted Williams, or whoever is in charge of How Baseball Should Be Played), and moving baseball forward into The Current Year.

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Forbes

    The sports media business model is about attracting eyeballs, so they need highlight reel plays to endlessly loop, and talk about. Showboating is cake frosting. Games are secondary.

  121. @Joe Schmoe
    @anon


    When I’m taking the bus to the grocery store, I ride by a nice baseball field that the local MLB team built in the inner city to encourage blacks to take baseball up again. It’s full of weeds and I have never seen it being used. ……Damn racist white people.
     
    Yeah, but the local MLB team isn't keeping it mowed, or supplying coaches, clinics and leagues. You know, all those things that are done by volunteers at Little Leagues all across the country.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    And that lawn-mowing volunteerism is just more white privilege.

    When will you people stop destroying other races by volunteering?

  122. The game is rooted in its anachronisms. Even its coded language — play the game the right way — repels the stylish flairs of a modern player, kids raised in a time of selfies and TV highlights. Unlike football and basketball, which have better adapted to the people who play, making it more attractive to younger players, baseball forces its strict, traditional culture on kids born in the 1990s and 2000s.

    There is only one appropriate response:

    Take me out to the ball game!

    • LOL: Kylie
  123. @Steve Sailer
    @Bugg

    If they ever bring the supersonic airliner back, an English Premiere League team in New York would definitely happen.

    At subsonic speeds the travel time problem is pretty bad, though. Yet, the Brooklyn Dodgers and New York Giants moved to California in 1958, a year before jetliner service, forcing the other teams in the National League to make long trips to California via propeller Constellations. But the 707 jetliner came into service in 1959, linking the coasts.

    The record for JFK-Heathrow for a current generation technology plane with tremendous west-to-east tailwinds is 5 hours and 16 minutes. But a Concorde did it in 2 hours and 53 minutes.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/12/travel/new-york-london-record-flight-time/

    The scheduled time JFK - Heathrow is 7 hours and 24 minutes.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @Chrisnonymous, @ScarletNumber

    How about a hyperloop? Too far?

  124. @Yak-15
    Whites did invent all the major American sports. Blacks did not invent any. Blacks were just imbued with the correct genetic traits to be good at most of them.

    But really, what sport did blacks invent other than drive by shootings?

    Replies: @Federalist, @The most deplorable one

    “…baseball, the original civil rights sport”…. because whites made it so. Whites decided to integrate baseball (a sport that whites invented). It’s the same for everything dealing with civil rights. Slavery ended because whites ended it. Whites decided that blacks should be allowed to vote. Whites ended segregation.

    Now, a black sportswriter is complaining because baseball does not “attract” enough blacks. Why should baseball have to change to attract blacks? No one stops blacks from playing baseball at any level. If you’re good enough, you get paid millions of dollars to play a game and they don’t care what color you are.

    White people invented baseball, football, and basketball; and created the leagues; and built the stadiums; and invented the televisions, cameras, and all of the other technology that makes it possible to broadcast major sporting events, and blacks are complaining not even about the choices of sports that they can play but that one sport does not do a good enough job of enticing blacks to dominate that sport at the professional level.

    When blacks play sports that whites invented, aren’t they appropriating white culture?

  125. @Yak-15
    Whites did invent all the major American sports. Blacks did not invent any. Blacks were just imbued with the correct genetic traits to be good at most of them.

    But really, what sport did blacks invent other than drive by shootings?

    Replies: @Federalist, @The most deplorable one

    Polar bear hunting?

  126. @Maj. Kong
    @Anonymous

    The Pentagon was revealed to be paying for much of it.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/05/454834662/pentagon-paid-sports-teams-millions-for-paid-patriotism-events

    While millennia of Anglo-Saxon tradition casts aspersions toward a standing army, the Average Joe conservative of today regards the military as one of the only institutions in society to maintain "purity". Facts, such as the fact that the military has long been a pit of leftist social engineering, are thrown out in favor of the pageantry.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @DCThrowback, @peterike, @John Mansfield

    The Pentagon was revealed to be paying for much of it.

    So basically there’s nothing that happens in American life that isn’t, at some level, just more psy-ops.

  127. @Truth
    @Anonymous




    Look, if White people in baseball are so bad, let’s give blacks their own league.
     
    LOL, "we" had one, dumbshit, "you" signed all of the players.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @The most deplorable one

    Wait! I thought it was racist to segregate people by race.

    Is that another of those definitions that depends on who is using it?

    • Replies: @Truth
    @The most deplorable one

    It would not be racist in remembering an institution called, "The Negro Leagues."

  128. @Hibernian
    @Steve Sailer

    I think Dr. Naismith went out to Kansas and started a chain of legendary coaches. Also, I think Dean Smith played at Kansas and coached at North Carolina. The other 2 states also had legendary coaches, Knight at Indiana and Rupp at Kentucky. Don't know the state (pun intended) of basketball in these two states when these two coaches arrived. My own home state of Iowa was sports crazy and that included basketball.

    Replies: @Hacienda, @iSteveFan

    Like Dean Smith, Adolf Rupp played at Kansas under Phog Allen.

  129. @Obamadon_Imbecilis
    ESPN is taking Jones's original assertion about the lack of protests as having to do with the fact that baseball is a lot whiter than the NFL/NBA ,(which is true) and running with it into the ridiculous territory of conspiracy to oppress African-Americans in baseball when they're only somewhat underrepresented there and grossly overrepresented elsewhere. I understand a lot of why Kaepernick and Jones are upset, as blacks don't really have effective political representation since the Dems take them for granted and the GOP doesn't really reach out except in the most superficial of ways to reassure their white base that they aren't racist. Note that the modern globalist regime doesn't really help them much either, outside of a few welfare/affirmative action scraps. The problem is that these things are invariably filtered into the standard identity politics and inconvenient aspects of such statements(like Kaepernick calling out "superpredator" Hillary's hypocrisy) are dutifully censored.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Former Darfur, @peterike

    as blacks don’t really have effective political representation

    Don’t they, though? They are advantaged, by law, in key aspects of life that matter in America: school access (from fancy kindergarten on through PhD programs), job hiring and job firing. In these areas there is a systemic red carpet laid out for blacks, if they only have the wherewithal to walk upon it (mostly they don’t).

    Whenever I hear this “blacks aren’t represented!” plaint, I like to ask: what, exactly, do you WANT? If you want everything free forever, just say so. At least we’ll know. But what do they want that they don’t already have?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @peterike

    "But what do they want that they don’t already have?"

    Based on Kaperdink and the St. Trayvon and Gentle Giant and etc etc affairs, it would seem they want the right to commit crimes with impunity and have there be no consequences.

  130. @Jonah
    ESPN.com has gone full SJW over the past couple years. I've read less and less as it's happened. I'm not the only one. Looks like the past year has seen it fall about 140 spots in terms of worldwide popularity from 110ish to 248.

    http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/espn.go.com

    After this article, I think I'm ready to switch - after 17 years of ESPN.com as one of my top bookmarks - to SI.com.

    Replies: @SnakeEyes, @aNONYMous, @Jokah Macpherson, @Carbon blob, @The preferred nomenclature is..., @young_american, @Marty T

    Trust me si.com is just as bad. Major sports in the FUSA should be dead to any self respecting White Man.

    • Replies: @Connecticut Famer
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    I recall reading somewhere that of all the branches of modern journalism, the largest proportion of so-called "liberals" are sportswriters.

  131. Words are like currency — they are subject to inflation. In that regard Negro complaints are akin to the Zimbabwean dollar. Worthless.

    Brilliant.

  132. @syonredux

    Baseball, Jones said, is not the black-dominated world of football or basketball, saying that the game lacks the untouchable wealth of black superstar power, and even a reputable volume of rank and file for it to support a similar form of protest. In demographic and attitude, Jones said baseball is “a white man’s game.”

     

    Let's see, we start out with "Black" as the preferred racial signifier at the beginning of the article. But then.....

    Major League Baseball is 8 percent African-American and more than 30 percent Latino,
     
    we shift to African-American....probably because a huge percentage of those Latinos are also Black....

    Replies: @duncsbaby, @Hibernian, @attilathehen

    Good point about “Hispanics.” Most are blacks from Cuba, the Dominican Republic. A-Rod is a light-skinned DR. So baseball is very black too.

  133. @gruff
    Probably one of the main reasons more blacks don't play baseballs is that they mostly live in cities and there aren't many baseball fields in inner cities anymore. As they get pushed out by gentrification, expect that to change.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Brutusale, @Lazy Hero

    They also need an adult male to teach them the game. Need I say more…

    Additionally, MLB is the only major sport I can stomach anymore because of the primitive displays in in feetsball and b-ball, not for me. And in these 2 sports there is much racism against White players. Look up Pistol Pete Maravich and Caste Football.

    Think about this, the majority of White NBA players either come from Europe or from heavily White areas in the US. And Peyton Hillis only got to play because of injuries. No great White running backs since John Riggins, no way. They are denied…

    Why do White Men watch this racism?

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Lazy Hero

    "Think about this, the majority of White NBA players either come from Europe or from heavily White areas in the US."

    Interestingly The San Antonio Spurs two best White players come from Brazil and Argentina.

    , @Anonymous
    @Lazy Hero

    "Why do White Men watch this racism?"

    Because, difficult as it may be to believe, everything else is much worse.

  134. @Maj. Kong
    @Dave Pinsen

    With or without two terms of President Trump, the political right would do well do adopt an anti-militarist stance. It may be hard to accomplish without the JCS being entirely SJWs, but a better project needs to be undertook than Scott McConnell's.

    A good start would be trying to give the state Governors real authority, and funding responsibility, over the National Guard.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Joe Schmoe, @guest

    That might be an okay idea from an alt-right or radical conservative perspective. But no way does the junior national party give up any influence over the permanent government/deep state. Without the military/intelligence Republicans would be ceding Washington, and all federal employees would basically be Democrats forever.

  135. “The game is rooted in its anachronisms. Even its coded language — play the game the right way — repels the stylish flairs of a modern player, kids raised in a time of selfies and TV highlights. Unlike football and basketball, which have better adapted to the people who play, making it more attractive to younger players, baseball forces its strict, traditional culture on kids born in the 1990s and 2000s.”

    Translation: Baseball is harder for blacks to ruin with their compulsive displays of “self-expression” than basketball or football

  136. @David In TN
    @AndyBoy

    "I enjoy the discomfort of White sports-cucks."

    Yes, the cucks tend to be big sports fans. Hero-worship of black athletes in particular is a favorite trope with them.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Yes, the cucks tend to be big sports fans. Hero-worship of black athletes in particular is a favorite trope with them.”

    No, American men tend to be big sports fans. They love competition. They love winning. They care little about whether a black man or a white man hit the home run to win the game, so long as their team wins. Its hero-worship of athletes, mind you.

  137. @MC
    @robot

    On the whole, baseball involves less "teamwork" than any other major team sport.

    The major limit on showboating in baseball isn't any written rule. It's that you face the prospect of getting beaned by a 95-mph fastball in reprisal.

    Replies: @Marty

    No, wrong. The primary limit on showboating (i.e. black participation) in baseball would exist even if everyone were cool with it and beanballs weren’t a threat. That limit is inherent to the game and takes the form of a relative absence of opportunity for direct physical domination. Since 60.5 feet is as close as hitter and pitcher get to each other, baseball has no “in yo’ face” play on the order of the tackle or the dunk, and blacks have a primal need for that. What happens on Chicago’s south side every day is just NBA/NFL for the guys who didn’t quite reach that level. Columnists like this guy have yet to admit the black essence to themselves.

  138. They could tweek the rules to make the game less white: let the batter carry the bat to the bases, let fielders throw the ball at baserunners…

  139. Is it me seeing things, does this guy have a giant stud earring in his left earlobe?? Wouldn’t want to be a professional writer and miss an opportunity to bolster the stereo types!!

  140. @Brutusale
    @gruff

    I don't know where you live, but the city of Boston maintains baseball fields for minority youth. The teams are mostly made up of Hispanic kids with a smattering of blacks and whites.

    My buddy, a bleeding-heart Jewish lawyer from one of Boston's wealthy "W" suburbs (the one the Red $ox's David "Big Papi" Ortiz lives in) has coached one of the teams in Boston for a couple years. Two of his three black U16 players were baby daddies. He actively pursues black kids to play, but there's little interest. He's finally willing to concede that Hispanics, culturally, are more attracted to baseball than blacks.

    Replies: @hhsiii

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reviving_Baseball_in_Inner_Cities

    There isn’t much informal baseball ball playing these days. When I w a kid we had little league, and also sometimes just a big group of us would stat up a game at a local field. You gotta have a big crew of kids. I see empty ballfields a lot when I’m driving around. It isn’t just inner city kids. The older kid players who are any good play in travel leagues.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @hhsiii

    I grew up in the sticks, and we played ball all day in a neighbor's field, which we mowed and maintained ourselves. If you didn't have enough players, you played with different rules, like the mound is as good as first and pick your field. Kids today just don't think like we did. Outdoor games are less important to them. Last year my town replaced one of the two outdoor basketball courts with a skate park so middle-aged potheads can skateboard!

    It was like an unwanted interruption when we had to go home and put on the uniform to play Little League, where the adults were quite capable of screwing up a good game!

    , @Bugg
    @hhsiii

    Never see any pickup baseball nor even stickball nor wiffleball games, which were daily staples in and around NYC as a kid. There is nothing outside little league,and the LL programs are shrinking. Go by a park on a Saturday or Sunday and the diamonds have some old guys playing softball but few LL games, or a lot less than it was in the past. Do see lots of soccer games, involving Latinos, Russians and some typical white people in the same municipal parks and grass fields that used to be filled with baseball. Baseball doesn't lend itself to pickup games like basketball, soccer nor even touch football.

    In short, the author is getting angry about a nonissue; nobody is really all that interested in baseball any more except for Latinos, and blacks are part of a general American trend. And really if 8% of MLB is black, given the influx of Latinos and smattering of Asians, it's not that out of whack from 13% of the population. And may be not even that out of whack if you consider the number of black Latinos like Puig, Cespedes, Ortiz et al.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  141. @Big Bill
    @Former Darfur

    What happened to the Negro Leagues is just another facet of Tragic Integration.

    On an intellectual level, blacks don't like being kept out of white stuff.

    When they are integrated, however, they realize they don't particularly like being surrounded by white folks and having to "ack white" all the time.

    As far as baseball is concerned, why on earth would they like to waste their time watching a bunch of alien white folks for 99.5% of the game in hopes of seeing a couple Jackie Robinson at-bats?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “What happened to the Negro Leagues is just another facet of Tragic Integration.”

    No, it was called progress.

    “On an intellectual level, blacks don’t like being kept out of white stuff.”

    According to who?

    “When they are integrated, however, they realize they don’t particularly like being surrounded by white folks and having to “ack white” all the time.”

    Are you not subjecting yourself to SJW style generalizations?

    “As far as baseball is concerned, why on earth would they like to waste their time watching a bunch of alien white folks for 99.5% of the game in hopes of seeing a couple Jackie Robinson at-bats?”

    Assuming that blacks feel this way.

  142. @Broski
    Colin Kaepernick = Rodney King? LOL!

    Replies: @boogerbently

    Showing they dislike and distrust America shows why we distrust and dislike them.

    If I were an owner, I would sit out any “protester” in such a way that he didn’t get paid.
    Make such political statements against club policy.
    Of course, I’m against them chimping out after good plays, too.

  143. @Maj. Kong
    @Anonymous

    The Pentagon was revealed to be paying for much of it.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/05/454834662/pentagon-paid-sports-teams-millions-for-paid-patriotism-events

    While millennia of Anglo-Saxon tradition casts aspersions toward a standing army, the Average Joe conservative of today regards the military as one of the only institutions in society to maintain "purity". Facts, such as the fact that the military has long been a pit of leftist social engineering, are thrown out in favor of the pageantry.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @DCThrowback, @peterike, @John Mansfield

    Somewhere working into the recent lionization of the military is the end of conscription after Vietnam. From 1940 until 1973, conscripts were inducted every year except for 1947. Even in 1958, the year Elvis was drafted and sent to Germany, there were 142,000 draftees, a third of the Vietnam peak. Being drafted into the army was a feature of American life for a third of a century. My father and all five of my uncles did some kind of military service. But among my couple dozen male cousins, only two ever enlisted. In 2012, for the first time since Roosevelt beat Dewey, neither party’s presidential candidate was a former military officer.

    Only a small fraction of men under 60 have served in the military, and that is creating a reverence toward those who are or have. Veterans aren’t as common as water anymore.

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    @John Mansfield

    Clinton never served in the military.

    Replies: @John Mansfield

    , @ScarletNumber
    @John Mansfield

    Another feature of the draft is that it encouraged some to join in order to make them draft ineligible and to give them some control over their destiny. Two famous examples were Ralph Nader and Ted Kennedy. Nader was an attorney who did 6 months of KP at Fort Dix.

  144. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Boxing is way ahead of other sports in movies. Baseball is probably 2nd.

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @ScarletNumber

    Probably because it is easiest for the director, rather than anything inherently interesting about the sport or its participants.

  145. The most popular Aferican sport was baseball, until integration. Hard to imagine now. Facts are stubborn things. The laws of unintended consequences are what they are, not what the SJW wants them to be. The whole world is coming here to play baseball. What the brothers are doing is simply not anybodies problem, not apparently even their own.

  146. @Steve Sailer
    @Bugg

    If they ever bring the supersonic airliner back, an English Premiere League team in New York would definitely happen.

    At subsonic speeds the travel time problem is pretty bad, though. Yet, the Brooklyn Dodgers and New York Giants moved to California in 1958, a year before jetliner service, forcing the other teams in the National League to make long trips to California via propeller Constellations. But the 707 jetliner came into service in 1959, linking the coasts.

    The record for JFK-Heathrow for a current generation technology plane with tremendous west-to-east tailwinds is 5 hours and 16 minutes. But a Concorde did it in 2 hours and 53 minutes.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/12/travel/new-york-london-record-flight-time/

    The scheduled time JFK - Heathrow is 7 hours and 24 minutes.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @Chrisnonymous, @ScarletNumber

    Yet, the Brooklyn Dodgers and New York Giants moved to California in 1958, a year before jetliner service, forcing the other teams in the National League to make long trips to California via propeller Constellations.

    But it helped that when teams went out to California to play one team, it was immediately followed by a series at the other team.

    But the 707 jetliner came into service in 1959, linking the coasts.

    Which enabled the American League to expand to Los Angeles in 1961 without putting a sister team with them.

  147. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bugg
    @Anonymous

    Black guys simply are more likely to play football or basketball instead. High school coaches make good athletes of any color commit to one sport pretty much by sophomore year. The idea of being a pro in any sport is a longshot. But baseball makes it's players go through usually 3 or more years of minors before you get to the show. The NBA and NFL use college as their minor leagues. And even with that baseball has no problem getting lots of Latinos , both American and from Latin America.

    Baseball is losing popularity generally, not only in black communities. Racism has nothing to do with it. Frankly find baseball very long and boring anyway. It's tedious in an era of video games. Was a time not long ago would watch Yankee games every night; haven't watched on in 2 or 3 years. Basketball and football are really more fun to watch and play. The Yankees own in partnership with an English soccer team an MLS franchise which is drawing very well in the Bronx. May not happen in my lifetime, but at some point soccer is going to catch up. People have always claimed the NFL would put a team in London, but now more likely the EPL or another Euro league will put a few teams in the US. Too much money for it not to happen.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous

    Soccer is at least as boring to watch as baseball, if not more so. That’s why its most devoted fans are into hooliganism as much as the game itself. A big part of the appeal is that watching the game serves as an excuse for boozing, brawling, and general rowdiness. The only thing it has going for it is that the games are relatively short at 90 minutes long. Baseball wasn’t always bad in this respect. Games used to be regularly around 2 hours or so a few decades ago.

    I’m not a soccer fan and find it boring to watch in general, but I can appreciate decent soccer play and be somewhat entertained by it. But this level of play is only seen at the World Cup or top Euro league levels, and even there it’s relatively rare. Even at the top World or Euro Cup finals, games are regularly tied snoozefests decided by penalty kicks. The MLS is terrible and just unwatchable.

    If soccer does become big in the US, it’ll be because of immigration, not because of its entertainment value.

  148. How is kneeling before the National Anthem or the American flag a sign of disrespect. Kneeling is a sign of heightened respect, as when a slave kneels before his master, or a subject kneels before his sovereign. What is more symbolic of American patriotism than the no doubt apocryphal painting of George Washington at Valley Forge kneeling before God:

    Colin Kaepernick I imagine was raised Catholic, so got used to doing a lot of kneeling from an early age. It was always a sign of respect and humility.

    Patriotic Americans might want to follow Kaepernick’s leadership and kneel whenever the National Anthem is played or the American flag is ceremoniously raised.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Mark Caplan

    Capt., Kaepernick actually takes a knee, he is not kneeling. However, in the Catholic Church, genuflecting, one knee to the ground, a bowed head and then stand up again, is the highest form of respect other than lying prostrate.

  149. “Even its coded language — play the game the right way — repels the stylish flairs of a modern player, kids raised in a time of selfies and TV highlights.”

    stylish flairs…kids raised in a time of selfies and TV highlights = self-absorbed ADD-ridden morons.

  150. @Brutusale
    @SPMoore8

    Showboating in baseball still carries risk. Oops, that 98 mph fastball got away from me!

    Replies: @Abe

    Showboating in baseball still carries risk. Oops, that 98 mph fastball got away from me!

    Yeah, but in a world where worrying about a Presidential nominee’s disconcerting habit of tapping out and hitting her head on the curb is “sexist”, I’m sure any day now some enterprising JOURNOLISTer will make the connection between beaning and lynching, complete with fabricated quote- e.g. Walter Johnson threatening to feed Honus Wagner some “strange fruit” if he didn’t cut-out the show-boating.

  151. Maybe it’s too obvious to mention, but the fans I see in the stands at baseball games are overwhelmingly white. (Is there any MLB team that’s an exception to this rule?)

  152. @SnakeEyes
    @Jonah

    I very recently made exactly the same decision myself for the same reasons.

    Replies: @William BadWhite

    SI is just as bad. I cancelled my subscription years ago but periodically would pick one up in an airport. A year or two ago I did so and sure enough, one of the first articles was lamenting the difficulties “trans-gendered” people have, so soon after the “courage of Michael Sam”.

    Yeah Michael Sam was really courageous. It takes such guts to announce something that will have 1/2 the country applauding for you.

    I still follow baseball and golf but pay zero attention to the Hoodlum Football League or the Tattooed Illiterate Dunking Association.

  153. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    @Jonah

    Trust me si.com is just as bad. Major sports in the FUSA should be dead to any self respecting White Man.

    Replies: @Connecticut Famer

    I recall reading somewhere that of all the branches of modern journalism, the largest proportion of so-called “liberals” are sportswriters.

  154. As others have said, I’m immensely enjoying watching the sports cucks squirm (and to be honest, this has helped wean me off my own frivolous attachment to professional sports). But I admit to a guilty pleasure- I do still watch episodes of ESPN’s 30 FOR 30 sports documentaries while exercising, mostly for the nostalgia trips (or so I tell myself). Remember how the ’91 BILLS-GIANTS Superbowl had military-level security (Apache gunships flying overhead, the works) as it was feared Saddam Hussein might try a terrorist strike on the eve of Desert Storm? Wild times!

    Anyway, in that same documentary on the Bills’ unprecedented loss of 4-straight championships, there was the expected vignette about their moral victory when Bills wide receiver Don Beebe sprinted like 70 yards down the sidelines to strip the ball from a Cowboy defender (Leon Lett) and prevent a Dallas fumble-recovery touchdown. Back in the dark days between when that happened and the ESPN documentary was shot, Beebe was lauded as an exemplar of perseverance and sportsmanship (the game was a Dallas blowout by then). But of course in CURRENT YEAR America we now know the disgusting, privileged Beebe was oppressing Lett by taking away his right to show-boatingly high step it into the endzone. The official record must be corrected, post-haste! Preferably by having Beebe vaporized and the 30 FOR 30 director and writer sent to Room 101. Lett, Michael Irvin, and Emittt Smith should also be credited as the inventors of selfies, Facebook, and the Internet, respectively, which they unveiled to a dazzled nation after their Superbowl victory so that the author’s theory about social media being the cause of blacks’ peculiar notion of “sportsmanship” doesn’t look like it came straight out of bizarro world.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    @Abe

    30 for 30!
    One of my favorites is about Bo Jackson. What a pleasure to see so much talent in two sports.

    Replies: @Abe

    , @Truth
    @Abe


    But of course in CURRENT YEAR America we now know the disgusting, privileged Beebe was oppressing Lett by taking away his right to show-boatingly high step it into the endzone. The official record must be corrected, post-haste! Preferably by having Beebe vaporized and the 30 FOR 30 director and writer sent to Room 101. Lett, Michael Irvin, and Emittt Smith should also be credited as the inventors of selfies, Facebook, and the Internet, respectively, which they unveiled to a dazzled nation after their Superbowl victory so that the author’s theory about social media being the cause of blacks’ peculiar notion of “sportsmanship” doesn’t look like it came straight out of bizarro world.
     
    Dude, I mean this will every iota of empathy I can muster, and with all possible respect; please build yourself some semblance of a life...
    , @Chris Berman
    @Abe

    Don Beebe won a Superbowl with Green Bay when they played 2 home games in Milwaukee.

    #BlackLivesMatter.

    , @guest
    @Abe

    My memory of the winningly losery, or loserly winning Bills pretty much begins and ends with the Great Comeback against the Oilers. Remember that? I happened to be watching on tv, maybe ten years old. The stadium emptied halfway through or so, when the Bills were down by like 30 points. Then, when the impossible happened and they had a chance to win, the fans streamed back in. It was surreal.

    I don't even think Jim Kelly was involved. Beebe was.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @MC

  155. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @lomez
    Has anyone ever studied whether black bio-mechanics are actually less conducive to baseball? Obviously combinations of speed and power are important, but longer arms are often a disadvantage, especially for swing mechanics, and there are only so many defensive positions where ranginess is a top priority. Black bio-mechanics may even create some disadvantage for pitching, where control and consistency are compromised by narrower hips (maybe not, though, just purely from what I see, black pitchers tend to be more wild on average).

    In any case, even if black bio mechanics are not a disadvantage, the advantages they offer in football and basketball are nullified on a baseball field, so we might expect a percentage of black players equal to the population, but no greater, even if baseball was the only game in town

    Replies: @Anonymous

    “Has anyone ever studied whether black bio-mechanics are actually less conducive to baseball?”

    I played baseball through college (Division 1) and for a couple of years after in a semi-pro league. My college had one black guy and the semi-pro team two. The college guy was quite good and was drafted by the Expos (dating myself a bit) though he never made it out of the minors. The two guys on the semi-pro team were pretty bad (by the standards of that league which was mostly ex-college and minor league players). One was a pitcher with poor control and the other was an outfielder that only was used to pinch-run.

    I think biomechanics has nothing to do with it. Other commented that fewer blacks live in rural or suburban areas where baseball is often played.

    I’d add that baseball is hard – its a game of failure as the oft-cited “good hitters fail 70% of the time” adage goes. It is a game of improvement through repetition and practice, and as a game of failure your opportunities to dance and taunt your opponent are less frequent. If dancing and taunting is really important to you, baseball can be boring.

    I think blacks don’t play baseball as much as they used to because its really hard and you have to behave yourself.

    A generation or two ago that was less of an impediment than it is today. What has changed is a topic for a different conversation.

  156. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Well put. I went to integrated grade and high schools and part of every day was given over to trying to disambiguate the "locutions, metaphors and allusions" of black kids who would launch verbal tirades against their friends. Generally, they contributed little to class, but it was entertaining when they went at each other. Rap only formalized what blacks had been doing for a long time. Verbal sparring is their game, and they play no-holds-barred, which meant plenty of nonsense thrown in just because of the rhythm and rhyme of whatever musical turn of phrase was in synch with their limited grasp of a word's meaning. Very creative, in a limited way. I once heard a black kid use the term "speed thermometer" when he was referring to a speedometer. Okay--pretty clever really--but still…...I guess that learning the correct term would be "coded language — play[ing] the game the right way" and that would be--in unison now--racissssss.

    Replies: @William BadWhite

    “Generally, they contributed little to class, but it was entertaining when they went at each other.”

    In Virginia in the early to mid80’s they called it “rolling the dozens”. Once I was on the team bus, riding to an away football game, maybe 45 minutes or so. Two of my black teammates traded “yo momma” jokes the entire way. Some of them I had heard before: “yo momma so fat her nickname is DAMN!”…some I hadn’t: “yo momma got a wooden leg with a kickstand on it”…and some made no sense at all: “yo momma drive a pink ice cream truck and don’t stop for no red lights”.

    The important thing in the game was to always come back quickly with the next crack. I admit I found it pretty funny. Even some of our coaches were trying not to laugh.

    I was a little surprised by one’s quick wit because he was in Special Ed and despite being a big guy, didn’t play much because he’d always botch his assignments (i.e. he was really dumb). He ended up working for VDOT, driving dump trucks full of asphalt around in the summer and salting roads in the winter. Not sure what happened to the other guy.

  157. @peterike
    @Obamadon_Imbecilis


    as blacks don’t really have effective political representation

     

    Don't they, though? They are advantaged, by law, in key aspects of life that matter in America: school access (from fancy kindergarten on through PhD programs), job hiring and job firing. In these areas there is a systemic red carpet laid out for blacks, if they only have the wherewithal to walk upon it (mostly they don't).

    Whenever I hear this "blacks aren't represented!" plaint, I like to ask: what, exactly, do you WANT? If you want everything free forever, just say so. At least we'll know. But what do they want that they don't already have?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    “But what do they want that they don’t already have?”

    Based on Kaperdink and the St. Trayvon and Gentle Giant and etc etc affairs, it would seem they want the right to commit crimes with impunity and have there be no consequences.

  158. Meanwhile, unintentionally comedic descriptive by white lady of police shooting of car-jackin’ black at Walmart:

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=30e_1473717572

    Photo of gentle giant here:

    http://www.kctv5.com/story/33072520/woman-good-samaritan-improving-after-shawnee-walmart-attack

  159. @aNONYMous
    @Jonah

    It seems like almost any publication you pick up has this same tone now.

    It doesn't matter if it's a magazine about archaeology or a copy of Cat Fancy…. They all seem to shoehorn identity politics into the stories and columns somehow.

    More than anything, I just find it very weird. Maybe about five years or so ago, all sorts of stuff happening in the culture has started making me feel like something has changed dramatically.

    It was always there, but more of a subculture around universities and political gays. But it has become so prevalent now. Even my parents small town newspaper reads like a copy of some sociology trade publication.

    I can't explain why this has happened so suddenly. I feel uneasy about it all (I guess that's the point…to make me uneasy) I can't see anything good coming from it all.

    It makes for dull reading too.

    Replies: @TheBoom, @AndrewR, @ogunsiron, @bomag

    Maybe about five years or so ago, all sorts of stuff happening in the culture has started making me feel like something has changed dramatically.

    Don’t discount the election of Barry Soetoro and the central gov’t going full racial grievance.

  160. @Lazy Hero
    @gruff

    They also need an adult male to teach them the game. Need I say more...

    Additionally, MLB is the only major sport I can stomach anymore because of the primitive displays in in feetsball and b-ball, not for me. And in these 2 sports there is much racism against White players. Look up Pistol Pete Maravich and Caste Football.

    Think about this, the majority of White NBA players either come from Europe or from heavily White areas in the US. And Peyton Hillis only got to play because of injuries. No great White running backs since John Riggins, no way. They are denied...

    Why do White Men watch this racism?

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Anonymous

    “Think about this, the majority of White NBA players either come from Europe or from heavily White areas in the US.”

    Interestingly The San Antonio Spurs two best White players come from Brazil and Argentina.

  161. @hhsiii
    @Brutusale

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reviving_Baseball_in_Inner_Cities

    There isn't much informal baseball ball playing these days. When I w a kid we had little league, and also sometimes just a big group of us would stat up a game at a local field. You gotta have a big crew of kids. I see empty ballfields a lot when I'm driving around. It isn't just inner city kids. The older kid players who are any good play in travel leagues.

    Replies: @Brutusale, @Bugg

    I grew up in the sticks, and we played ball all day in a neighbor’s field, which we mowed and maintained ourselves. If you didn’t have enough players, you played with different rules, like the mound is as good as first and pick your field. Kids today just don’t think like we did. Outdoor games are less important to them. Last year my town replaced one of the two outdoor basketball courts with a skate park so middle-aged potheads can skateboard!

    It was like an unwanted interruption when we had to go home and put on the uniform to play Little League, where the adults were quite capable of screwing up a good game!

  162. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    The decline of blacks in baseball has to do with one of the natural sporting advantages whites have over blacks. It’s aim. Whites simply have better aim than blacks. This is one reason why football quarterbacks are normally white, why nearly all pro golfers are white, and why nearly all Olympic-class shooters are white. They are all aim-dependent.

    In baseball, everyone on the team has to be able to aim well because everybody on that team has to throw a ball to another player at one point or another during the game to prevent the other team from scoring. You also have to have first class eye-tracking ability to be able to hit a ball that’s coming at you at 100 mph. This is a skill that uses the same set of neurons that are necessary for aim. Black players have just been classed right out of the game.

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    @Anon

    There are a lot of blacks in baseball, as anyone who watches it can plainly see. It;s just that people have been programmed to believe if a negro has a Spanish name, he is not a negro but "Hispanic" or "Latino". And most of the blacks in baseball today are from south of the Rio Grande, far south of it.

    Since those blacks are successful, and since at one time many American blacks were successful, it follows this theory is incorrect.

    However, the theory that blacks could never have invented baseball and that blacks generally would make terrible general managers, is one with considerable evidence based support.

    , @Former Darfur
    @Anon

    There are a lot of blacks in baseball, as anyone who watches it can plainly see. It;s just that people have been programmed to believe if a negro has a Spanish name, he is not a negro but "Hispanic" or "Latino". And most of the blacks in baseball today are from south of the Rio Grande, far south of it.

    Since those blacks are successful, and since at one time many American blacks were successful, it follows this theory is incorrect.

    However, the theory that blacks could never have invented baseball and that blacks generally would make terrible general managers, is one with considerable evidence based support.

  163. @Maj. Kong
    @Obamadon_Imbecilis

    The GOP can't "reach out" to blacks, because they would alienate too much of their base.

    The main black political priorities include:
    -An activist federal government
    -Restraints on policing
    -More social spending
    -Disarming white suburbanites
    -Eliminating "white privilege"
    -Affirmative Action
    -Reparations
    -Increased Section 8
    -Government jobs

    And for a significant minority of blacks there are these:
    -Mass immigration from Africa
    -Foreign aid to Africa
    -Tolerance for Islam

    These priorities have existed for years outside of the party activists and politicians. The basic priorities of conservatives, such as a reduced federal government and resistance to affirmative action, are impossible to square with the overwhelming majority of blacks in America.

    If the GOP was interested in peeling off an additional section of black voters, they would be promising a new WPA/CCC, paying for it with cuts to the DoD. They could also ease up on punishing government employees as a class, instead targeting the tax advantages held by the top .1%

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Jefferson

    “And for a significant minority of blacks there are these:
    -Mass immigration from Africa
    -Foreign aid to Africa
    -Tolerance for Islam”

    I’ve seen estimates that say 8 percent at the low end to 20 percent at the high end of African Americans are Muslims.

    That would explain why African Americans were more likely than Whites to be offended at Donald Trump’s comments about Muslims.

  164. @Unladen Swallow
    I love how baseball having no black owners is proof of discrimination, unlike the NFL or NBA, which have....wait for it...no black owners either. The lack of managers and GM's in MLB is simply a result of their being fewer and fewer black American ballplayers in baseball almost every year since the early 1990's, does he really believe managers don't come from the ranks of former players? It's amazing this guy can't connect the dots.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AndrewR, @ThisIsMadness

    Amen. Connecting dots requires critical thinking, and that seems to be in short supply everywhere.

    Baseball has, for years, been trying to figure out how to increase the number of black baseball players. If you look at the statistics, there are fewer baseball fields (and fields in general) in an inner city environment. Black youth practically have no outlet other than basketball and football. Ok, throw in Track and Field. What is the answer? Forced integration? Hail Jackie Robinson and Larry Doby. Black youth’s have to want to play baseball. I have found memories of playing catch with my dad. It is something that I still like to do, and I do with my own son’s. BUT, that requires having a father figure and a complete family unit which is a conversation that no one wants to have.

  165. Remember, it was the world of “sports journalism” which birthed the likes of Keith Olbermann, Bob Costas, and Mike Lupica, three of the most pompous liberal bloviators. I think this Howard Bryant guy is the current host of the ESPN program “The Sports Reporters,” a sort-of Sunday morning “Meet the Press” for sports fans. I used to watch this program pretty religiously in the early 90s before it became too much for me even back then.

  166. @Jonah
    ESPN.com has gone full SJW over the past couple years. I've read less and less as it's happened. I'm not the only one. Looks like the past year has seen it fall about 140 spots in terms of worldwide popularity from 110ish to 248.

    http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/espn.go.com

    After this article, I think I'm ready to switch - after 17 years of ESPN.com as one of my top bookmarks - to SI.com.

    Replies: @SnakeEyes, @aNONYMous, @Jokah Macpherson, @Carbon blob, @The preferred nomenclature is..., @young_american, @Marty T

    All the mainstream sites are garbage. Just go to fangraphs.

  167. @Former Darfur
    @Steve Sailer

    The Concorde was perfectly capable of staying in service another 20 years or longer. It was politically taken down by people-a minority of elitist people- in the UK and France who did it mostly out of spite.

    And once the cost of the aircraft had been written off, it was a moneymaker: not huge, but it made a profit. It also created jobs and an experience base for maintenance people on the only Mach 2+ large aircraft left in the West. (The B-1 was intended as a supersonic bomber but the B-1B is only marginally supersonic now. With the retirement in the early seventies of the B-58 and the SR in the nineties, only the Russians have anything bigger than a fighter capable of Mach 2 flight anymore.)

    Sonic booms were never the problem. Envy and a desire to cut down progress were the problems.

    Replies: @JerryC

    The Concorde was retired because 1) It was a maintenance nightmare and 2) London-NYC is really the only commercially viable route in the world for costly supersonic passenger flights. It was always a big money loser for Air France and they only kept at it as long as they did out of national pride.

  168. @Hacienda
    @Hibernian

    Basketball was huge in Indiana, much before Knight. The Indiana Pacers were the most successful ABA team and had George McGinness, Freddy Brown, Mel Daniels, Billy Keller (pudgy and short, but canny, strong, quick white point guard that is now extinct in professional basketball). High School basketball games were frenzied with a high level of sportsmanship and attendance. The cheerleaders were pretty and the TV announcers were restrained, knowledgeable, and reverential. And impartial for the most part. Unlike the cretins who ass-lick the home team in other places and these days. You probably knew John Wooden won a state championship in Indiana.

    Pick up basketball is played at a very high level in Indiana- white guys that are 6'4"-6'11". Put the fear into the shorter tweener colored races. Probably the best white public park basketball is played in Indiana although haven't seen what that's like in the other basketball states.

    Replies: @hhsiii

    Yeah, Indiana basketball was big long before Knight. Yup, Wooden was a great high school player and at Purdue. The Indiana Rubber Man. Then Branch McCracken at Indiana. He had great white and black players, like Archie Dees and Walt Bellamy. Everett Case was from Indiana and he pretty much made basketball on Tobacco Road, with NC State and the annual Dixie Classic. Frank McGuire was hired by UNC to break NC State’s stranglehold in the Southern Conference/ACC. And he brought Indiana players with him, like Norm Sloan, who ended up coaching NC State.

    So when you have the 1974 title game it’s John Wooden coaching UCLA versus Norm Sloan coaching NC State.

    Of course then you have the North Carolina Kansas connection. Dean Smith played for Phog Allen, and he or Roy Williams have coached UNC for most f the last half century.

    Billy Keller played on that Purdue team that whipped UNC in the Final 4 in 1969. Mount never amounted to much as a pro but yeah, Keller was a key part of this great Pacers teams. If you read the Book Loose Balls by Terry Pluto it goes into how Mount was a great scorer but soft, whereas Keller turned himself into a good pro.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @hhsiii

    The U. of Kansas basketball dynasty goes back to James Naismith in the 19th Century:

    The University of Kansas men's basketball program officially began in 1898, following Naismith's arrival, just six years after Naismith drafted the sport's first official rules. ... However, Naismith coached Forrest "Phog" Allen, his eventual successor at Kansas,[17] ... Allen embarked on a coaching career that would lead him to be known as "the Father of Basketball Coaching." During his time at Kansas, Allen coached Dean Smith (1952 National Championship team) and Adolph Rupp (1922 Helms Foundation National Championship team). Allen, Smith and Rupp have joined Naismith as members of the Basketball Hall of Fame.

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @Polynikes

    , @Hacienda
    @hhsiii

    If a house had a driveway and boys, it had a basketball board. The IndyStar had a headline in about 1973 "Basketball, Black Man's Bonanza". Really. I remember having a talk with my coach about a mother who had come up to him saying that basketball was a black man's sport and whites shouldn't play it. Really. Lots, I mean lots of conversations about how blacks are too quick and whites couldn't make it professionally. I believe this was clearly the beginning of the end.

    Mount and Roger (not Freddy) Brown were shooting guards. Point guards have a court vision and the hands. It's a more frenetic position. Goodrich and Klay Thompson seem soft compared to West and Curry, but part of that comes with being shooting guards. But, still Mount was soft. Thanks for bringing up his name. Had forgotten about him. Mel Daniels was a beast. He would outplay Dan Issel routinely in Pacers and Kentucky Colonels games. That was a big thing then. We hated on Issel because of the rivalry and his being from Kentucky.

    Knight thought he was cheated from the championship in 1975. That was the year they had a perfect record 31-0 until Scott May injured his elbow(?) and lost to Kentucky of all damn teams in the quarter-finals. Wooden won his last championship that year with pure coaching finesse, but almost definitely would have lost to a healthy Indiana. Knight had it in for UCLA ever since and would routinely shellack UCLA for the rest of his career.

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @David In TN

  169. @hhsiii
    @Brutusale

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reviving_Baseball_in_Inner_Cities

    There isn't much informal baseball ball playing these days. When I w a kid we had little league, and also sometimes just a big group of us would stat up a game at a local field. You gotta have a big crew of kids. I see empty ballfields a lot when I'm driving around. It isn't just inner city kids. The older kid players who are any good play in travel leagues.

    Replies: @Brutusale, @Bugg

    Never see any pickup baseball nor even stickball nor wiffleball games, which were daily staples in and around NYC as a kid. There is nothing outside little league,and the LL programs are shrinking. Go by a park on a Saturday or Sunday and the diamonds have some old guys playing softball but few LL games, or a lot less than it was in the past. Do see lots of soccer games, involving Latinos, Russians and some typical white people in the same municipal parks and grass fields that used to be filled with baseball. Baseball doesn’t lend itself to pickup games like basketball, soccer nor even touch football.

    In short, the author is getting angry about a nonissue; nobody is really all that interested in baseball any more except for Latinos, and blacks are part of a general American trend. And really if 8% of MLB is black, given the influx of Latinos and smattering of Asians, it’s not that out of whack from 13% of the population. And may be not even that out of whack if you consider the number of black Latinos like Puig, Cespedes, Ortiz et al.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Bugg

    Mexican Americans in SoCal remain big baseball spectator sport fans, but they only rarely produce a major league star. The Dodgers try to have a Mexican-American starter like Adrian Gonzales.

  170. @Lazy Hero
    @gruff

    They also need an adult male to teach them the game. Need I say more...

    Additionally, MLB is the only major sport I can stomach anymore because of the primitive displays in in feetsball and b-ball, not for me. And in these 2 sports there is much racism against White players. Look up Pistol Pete Maravich and Caste Football.

    Think about this, the majority of White NBA players either come from Europe or from heavily White areas in the US. And Peyton Hillis only got to play because of injuries. No great White running backs since John Riggins, no way. They are denied...

    Why do White Men watch this racism?

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Anonymous

    “Why do White Men watch this racism?”

    Because, difficult as it may be to believe, everything else is much worse.

  171. I recently heard a host of a radio sports talk show, whom I believe was White, responding Howard Bryant’s allegation. He was mostly supportive of the comment and went on and on about all the financial barriers that poor Black kids have to overcome to play baseball. He was talking about the cost of equipment, he went on to explain this is why Hockey is mostly White. Okay Hockey I get, all the fee’s to get limited ice time, not to much natural winter ice south of Minnesota. He went on to say in basketball all you need is the ball, okay I get that but is baseball really that more expensive? Historically it was a street game, hence the term sandlot. Sure it’s nice to have a mitt, it may not be preferably, but one bat can be shared by many kids and both teams. He went on to say Football was cheaper, hmmm really? Football helmets start around $75 on Amazon, then there’s all the other pads. If finances were the only reason why are there so few Black American soccer players, you can kick just about anything around?

    This must have been a shock to all the liberal White followers of the game. They adore the historical Negro leagues and stat’s as much as MLB. I mean, Ken Burns sure did spend a substantial amount of time in his PBS documentary on Baseball discussing the Negro leagues, Jackie Robinson et al.

    • Replies: @L7's
    @George Taylor

    My boy plays all these sports...football is the most expensive though they all are expensive. ....almost no blacks in little league tons in football. ...it has nothing to do with barriers blacks no longer enjoy baseball. ....white dad's are still into baseball and make sure their sons play black dad's don't give a shit about nothing but football and hoops

  172. @SPMoore8
    a deafening silence of incuriosity -- The author is the kind of guy who thinks this kind of writing makes sense and marks him as an intellectual. It makes him sound pretentious and rather silly. There are several other examples in the article, e.g., "soil"? As in "ground"? Please.

    Actually I read the ballplayer's comments and I think what he meant to say is that there won't be any Kaepernick's in baseball because it is dominated by whites, in a way that neither football or basketball are. However, because his reasoning is as casual and as loud as his clothes, he just said, "It's a white man's game." There's nothing deep here.

    Thus:

    saying that the game lacks the untouchable wealth of black superstar power

    He didn't say that, and if there was a black guy who could pitch like Kershaw or hit like Trout he'd be lionized. As it is, McCutcheon is rightly praised but he's just not that great.

    play the game the right way — repels the stylish flairs of a modern player, kids raised in a time of selfies and TV highlights

    So, in other words, baseball doesn't have as much showboating and histrionics as the NBA and the NFL, which black people are really good at. Point taken. Point also not wanted.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @guest, @Brutusale, @Abe

    a deafening silence of incuriosity — The author is the kind of guy who thinks this kind of writing makes sense and marks him as an intellectual. It makes him sound pretentious and rather silly. There are several other examples in the article, e.g., “soil”? As in “ground”? Please.

    Charles Blow does the same thing. Corey Booker a slightly-less embarrassing version. And, of course, Big Daddy Obama got it started with his “audacity of hope”. SWPL antinomy, largely to hide the fact that our best-n-brightest Millennials are still- well, Millenials. To cover the fact they’re iPhone-addicted, Internet TV binge-watching couch potato slobs who can’t even finish a Teddy Roosevelt biography, let alone accomplish 1/20 of what that man did.

    “Hey, Obama, how’s that asbestos removal going? Think you’re really making a difference in the lives of our inner-city young?”
    “I’m hopeful. Audaciously so, in fact!”

    I think it started a bit in feminist victimological discourse too- “We’re fierce rape survivors, etc.”

    • LOL: Spmoore8
  173. When blacks play sports that whites invented, aren’t they appropriating white culture?

    When blacks wear pants they’re appropriating white culture. Just sayin’.

    “What happened to the Negro Leagues is just another facet of Tragic Integration.”

    No, it was called progress.

    Right. Just like when cancer spreads.

    Patriotic Americans might want to follow Kaepernick’s leadership and kneel whenever the National Anthem is played or the American flag is ceremoniously raised.

    No thanks, but I’m okay with blacks doing it.

  174. @Anon
    Baseball pays better. A lot better.

    Thats what you get when you hire a union guy to run your union.

    Replies: @mts1

    Marvin Miller, yes; Fehr, ugh. One nice thing Miller had was to hold contract talks in auditoriums with the rule that any player or owner came come in and observe at any time in the process. Owners never came, but players did and got to see their interests discussed real-time. Miller was a genius, able to maximize for the players without killing the golden goose. Fehr seems to have been a wrecking ball in both baseball and hockey.

  175. @Joe Schmoe
    @Maj. Kong

    Texas has a state guard.

    https://tmd.texas.gov/texas-state-guard

    Replies: @The most deplorable one

    Perhaps that is why Tom Kratman wrote State of Disobedience:

  176. @Jack D
    You may think that America got to the moon thanks to Wernher von Braun and his fellow Nazi war criminals but it fact it was black women who did it. I learned this in the Washington Post today so it must be true:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-nearly-forgotten-story-of-the-black-women-who-helped-land-a-man-on-the-moon/2016/09/12/95f2d356-7504-11e6-8149-b8d05321db62_story.html#comments

    There's a movie coming out about these black female geniuses - I can't wait to see it!

    Shorter version: At NACA (the predecessor to NASA) during WWII, there were a bunch of women hired to be "computers" (before digital computers existed, computer was a job title for a human, usually female - like phone operators they decided that women were best suited for this work). Most were white but a handful were black (the Federal government did not discriminate even then). A computer would sit at a mechanical calculator (adding machine) all day and do repetitive calculations so that airfoils could be optimized, etc. Men (aeronautical engineers, etc.) would set up the equations and the human computer's job (just like the digital computers who would replace them) was to repetitively plug values into the equation and get the answers. Over and over. I would say the skill level was roughly comparable to running a cash register or being a bank teller. It must have been mind numbingly boring work. All the work that hundreds of these women did over a period of years could today be run on the computer on your desk in a couple of hours. Somehow they made a movie out of this thin gruel.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @mts1

    I’ve no time now to look it up, but there were buildings full of German women doing this in their country pre-ENIAC. All math was reduced to addition/subtraction, and each woman did one computation and passed it on. Like most Army equipment, the phrase “designed by geniuses to be run by idiots” comes to mind. Whoever designed this should be as famous for it as Henry Ford for his assembly line.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @mts1

    Richard Feynman was in charge of programming a roomful of women computers at Los Alamos.

    Replies: @Jack D

  177. @mts1
    @Jack D

    I've no time now to look it up, but there were buildings full of German women doing this in their country pre-ENIAC. All math was reduced to addition/subtraction, and each woman did one computation and passed it on. Like most Army equipment, the phrase "designed by geniuses to be run by idiots" comes to mind. Whoever designed this should be as famous for it as Henry Ford for his assembly line.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Richard Feynman was in charge of programming a roomful of women computers at Los Alamos.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Steve Sailer

    My recollection is that it was a bunch of young male draftees. Initially they didn't tell them what they were doing due to secrecy, but Feynman convinced the folks in charge that he should be allowed to tell them what the numbers meant and their productivity shot up and they thought of clever short cuts.

  178. @hhsiii
    @Hacienda

    Yeah, Indiana basketball was big long before Knight. Yup, Wooden was a great high school player and at Purdue. The Indiana Rubber Man. Then Branch McCracken at Indiana. He had great white and black players, like Archie Dees and Walt Bellamy. Everett Case was from Indiana and he pretty much made basketball on Tobacco Road, with NC State and the annual Dixie Classic. Frank McGuire was hired by UNC to break NC State's stranglehold in the Southern Conference/ACC. And he brought Indiana players with him, like Norm Sloan, who ended up coaching NC State.

    So when you have the 1974 title game it's John Wooden coaching UCLA versus Norm Sloan coaching NC State.

    Of course then you have the North Carolina Kansas connection. Dean Smith played for Phog Allen, and he or Roy Williams have coached UNC for most f the last half century.

    Billy Keller played on that Purdue team that whipped UNC in the Final 4 in 1969. Mount never amounted to much as a pro but yeah, Keller was a key part of this great Pacers teams. If you read the Book Loose Balls by Terry Pluto it goes into how Mount was a great scorer but soft, whereas Keller turned himself into a good pro.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Hacienda

    The U. of Kansas basketball dynasty goes back to James Naismith in the 19th Century:

    The University of Kansas men’s basketball program officially began in 1898, following Naismith’s arrival, just six years after Naismith drafted the sport’s first official rules. … However, Naismith coached Forrest “Phog” Allen, his eventual successor at Kansas,[17] … Allen embarked on a coaching career that would lead him to be known as “the Father of Basketball Coaching.” During his time at Kansas, Allen coached Dean Smith (1952 National Championship team) and Adolph Rupp (1922 Helms Foundation National Championship team). Allen, Smith and Rupp have joined Naismith as members of the Basketball Hall of Fame.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    @Steve Sailer

    It's wild. Kansas goes back to the inventor of basketball. They have had what, 7 coaches in a hundred years? Naismith. Phog Allen. Ted Owens. Larry Brown. Roy Williams. Bill Self. Some other guy?

    Is Brown in the hall of fame?

    Brown and Art Heyman fight in 1961. The real start of the UNC/Duke rivalry:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I0RroAH4vwU

    Replies: @David In TN

    , @Polynikes
    @Steve Sailer

    I mean that's basketball 101. Even in Naismiths day basketball was king in Indiana. Naismith recognized as much. Indiana HS coaches spread basketball in north Carolina long before the naismith-Allen-smith connection got there.

    The rabid popularity of basketball of Indiana dates almost back to the game's founding. Not sure why, but it was as much a rural game there as anywhere else.

    "Basketball really had its beginning in Indiana, which remains today in the center of the sport."

    --Dr. Naismith - 1936

  179. @Bugg
    @hhsiii

    Never see any pickup baseball nor even stickball nor wiffleball games, which were daily staples in and around NYC as a kid. There is nothing outside little league,and the LL programs are shrinking. Go by a park on a Saturday or Sunday and the diamonds have some old guys playing softball but few LL games, or a lot less than it was in the past. Do see lots of soccer games, involving Latinos, Russians and some typical white people in the same municipal parks and grass fields that used to be filled with baseball. Baseball doesn't lend itself to pickup games like basketball, soccer nor even touch football.

    In short, the author is getting angry about a nonissue; nobody is really all that interested in baseball any more except for Latinos, and blacks are part of a general American trend. And really if 8% of MLB is black, given the influx of Latinos and smattering of Asians, it's not that out of whack from 13% of the population. And may be not even that out of whack if you consider the number of black Latinos like Puig, Cespedes, Ortiz et al.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Mexican Americans in SoCal remain big baseball spectator sport fans, but they only rarely produce a major league star. The Dodgers try to have a Mexican-American starter like Adrian Gonzales.

  180. Baseball is the best and most complex game in the world. Therefore, it rewards brains….When I say that around hispanics, they all smile and give me thumbs up!

  181. @Abe
    As others have said, I'm immensely enjoying watching the sports cucks squirm (and to be honest, this has helped wean me off my own frivolous attachment to professional sports). But I admit to a guilty pleasure- I do still watch episodes of ESPN's 30 FOR 30 sports documentaries while exercising, mostly for the nostalgia trips (or so I tell myself). Remember how the '91 BILLS-GIANTS Superbowl had military-level security (Apache gunships flying overhead, the works) as it was feared Saddam Hussein might try a terrorist strike on the eve of Desert Storm? Wild times!

    Anyway, in that same documentary on the Bills' unprecedented loss of 4-straight championships, there was the expected vignette about their moral victory when Bills wide receiver Don Beebe sprinted like 70 yards down the sidelines to strip the ball from a Cowboy defender (Leon Lett) and prevent a Dallas fumble-recovery touchdown. Back in the dark days between when that happened and the ESPN documentary was shot, Beebe was lauded as an exemplar of perseverance and sportsmanship (the game was a Dallas blowout by then). But of course in CURRENT YEAR America we now know the disgusting, privileged Beebe was oppressing Lett by taking away his right to show-boatingly high step it into the endzone. The official record must be corrected, post-haste! Preferably by having Beebe vaporized and the 30 FOR 30 director and writer sent to Room 101. Lett, Michael Irvin, and Emittt Smith should also be credited as the inventors of selfies, Facebook, and the Internet, respectively, which they unveiled to a dazzled nation after their Superbowl victory so that the author's theory about social media being the cause of blacks' peculiar notion of "sportsmanship" doesn't look like it came straight out of bizarro world.

    Replies: @Ivy, @Truth, @Chris Berman, @guest

    30 for 30!
    One of my favorites is about Bo Jackson. What a pleasure to see so much talent in two sports.

    • Replies: @Abe
    @Ivy


    30 for 30!
    One of my favorites is about Bo Jackson. What a pleasure to see so much talent in two sports.
     
    Wow, I just finished watching that today, talk about coincidence! I think everybody remembers the BO KNOWS shoe marketing campaign, but in the relative Information Dark Ages of the early 90's I never even realized what happened to him until I watched that documentary (at the time I was too poor to afford a regular newspaper subscription or cable). He went from being the biggest name in sports to suddenly disappearing, just like the BRITISH KNIGHTS shoe brand of the same era. Because of his stammer he also apparently shied away from the press, so no one much remembers any catchphrase of his, or really even what he sounded like. Seemed like a decent enough, well-spoken guy, but honestly not hugely interesting (in a good way) so I enjoyed that one more as a period piece. Best moment for me was seeing Ronald Reagan pop-in as a guest commentator during the '89 MLB All-Star Game. Have this memory of him winning the Cold War, then immediately succumbing to Alzheimer's, so it was nice to be reminded he had a couple good, lucid years in between.
  182. Baseball is wits-loaded, so obviously it’s racist, although, perhaps, a little less than school.

    Speaking of racism, what do you think about Wall Street and Manhattan law firms? There is a disproportion between Jews and Irishmen… I think some racism is going on, your opinion?

  183. @hhsiii
    @Hacienda

    Yeah, Indiana basketball was big long before Knight. Yup, Wooden was a great high school player and at Purdue. The Indiana Rubber Man. Then Branch McCracken at Indiana. He had great white and black players, like Archie Dees and Walt Bellamy. Everett Case was from Indiana and he pretty much made basketball on Tobacco Road, with NC State and the annual Dixie Classic. Frank McGuire was hired by UNC to break NC State's stranglehold in the Southern Conference/ACC. And he brought Indiana players with him, like Norm Sloan, who ended up coaching NC State.

    So when you have the 1974 title game it's John Wooden coaching UCLA versus Norm Sloan coaching NC State.

    Of course then you have the North Carolina Kansas connection. Dean Smith played for Phog Allen, and he or Roy Williams have coached UNC for most f the last half century.

    Billy Keller played on that Purdue team that whipped UNC in the Final 4 in 1969. Mount never amounted to much as a pro but yeah, Keller was a key part of this great Pacers teams. If you read the Book Loose Balls by Terry Pluto it goes into how Mount was a great scorer but soft, whereas Keller turned himself into a good pro.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Hacienda

    If a house had a driveway and boys, it had a basketball board. The IndyStar had a headline in about 1973 “Basketball, Black Man’s Bonanza”. Really. I remember having a talk with my coach about a mother who had come up to him saying that basketball was a black man’s sport and whites shouldn’t play it. Really. Lots, I mean lots of conversations about how blacks are too quick and whites couldn’t make it professionally. I believe this was clearly the beginning of the end.

    Mount and Roger (not Freddy) Brown were shooting guards. Point guards have a court vision and the hands. It’s a more frenetic position. Goodrich and Klay Thompson seem soft compared to West and Curry, but part of that comes with being shooting guards. But, still Mount was soft. Thanks for bringing up his name. Had forgotten about him. Mel Daniels was a beast. He would outplay Dan Issel routinely in Pacers and Kentucky Colonels games. That was a big thing then. We hated on Issel because of the rivalry and his being from Kentucky.

    Knight thought he was cheated from the championship in 1975. That was the year they had a perfect record 31-0 until Scott May injured his elbow(?) and lost to Kentucky of all damn teams in the quarter-finals. Wooden won his last championship that year with pure coaching finesse, but almost definitely would have lost to a healthy Indiana. Knight had it in for UCLA ever since and would routinely shellack UCLA for the rest of his career.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    @Hacienda

    That was a great Indiana team that went unbeaten the next year. That Kentucky team had Kevin Greavey. UCLA had David Meyers, Richard Washington, and I think Swen Nater was a backup. Indiana had Scott May. His son Sean started on UNC's 2005 championship team. Also Quinn Buckner, Bobby Wilkerson, Kent Benson. Even 6th man John Laskowski made the NBA.

    Larry Bird was a freshman the next year. He says Benson was a jerk to him. Benson was a high draft pick. Jab bar broke his jaw during his first month in the NBA. Around the time Kermit Washington almost killed Rudy Tomjanovich.

    , @David In TN
    @Hacienda

    Speaking of Rick Mount, he had some spectacular shooting performances in the 1969 NCAA Tournament. A writer for the Nashville Tennessean sports section was moved to write "Rick Mount is far better than Pete Maravich."

    Of course their respective pro careers didn't turn out that way.

  184. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    @Maj. Kong


    Many Hispanics are blacks from the Dominican Republic.
     
    This is where the NFL = MLB analogy fails.

    A more appropriate analogy would be NHL = MLB.

    -Lots of foreign nationals on each team
    -The league has teams in the U.S and Canada
    -Everyone respectfully stands for the national anthem of the country in which that particular game is being played

    Does Adam Jones want to take a knee in Toronto, too?

    Damn it, will some one please ask how spoiled black millionaires who play a children's game feel about "O Canada"?!?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Damn it, will some one please ask how spoiled black millionaires who play a children’s game feel about “O Canada”?!?

    Ferguson Jenkins was arrested upon returning to his native Ontario with a modicum of cocaine. But a Canfield judge let him off.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Reg Cæsar


    Ferguson Jenkins was arrested upon returning to his native Ontario with a modicum of cocaine. But a Canfield judge let him off.
     
    Bloody hell, Apple spellcheck doesn't recognize "fangirl"? Fergie's bust long antedated the Chicken Soup series.

    I gotta watch those public iPads, which also insist on turning me into "Ref Cæsar".
  185. @AndyBoy
    I enjoy the discomfort of White sports-cucks.

    All these White guys who have poured billions of dollars and tons of attention into games now dominated by Blacks.

    Nothing sillier than a White guy going all gaga over his latest Black sports crush. And now the Blacks are increasingly disrespecting the country these White Cucks claim to love. Sets up an interesting conflict!

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @David In TN, @Clyde

    Lol and excellent take. I feel the same way and have no interest in sports that are dominated by blacks. I lost interest in marathon running when the Ethiopians and similar starting taking over.
    Lacrosse for 10 year olds must be up and coming. Maybe done for college scholarships? Last week I saw an organized game being played complete with helmets and team uniforms. White boys along with a surprising number of black boys. Lacrosse is perceived as an upper class game, I was thinking this is the gimmick.

  186. @The most deplorable one
    @Truth

    Wait! I thought it was racist to segregate people by race.

    Is that another of those definitions that depends on who is using it?

    Replies: @Truth

    It would not be racist in remembering an institution called, “The Negro Leagues.”

  187. @Abe
    As others have said, I'm immensely enjoying watching the sports cucks squirm (and to be honest, this has helped wean me off my own frivolous attachment to professional sports). But I admit to a guilty pleasure- I do still watch episodes of ESPN's 30 FOR 30 sports documentaries while exercising, mostly for the nostalgia trips (or so I tell myself). Remember how the '91 BILLS-GIANTS Superbowl had military-level security (Apache gunships flying overhead, the works) as it was feared Saddam Hussein might try a terrorist strike on the eve of Desert Storm? Wild times!

    Anyway, in that same documentary on the Bills' unprecedented loss of 4-straight championships, there was the expected vignette about their moral victory when Bills wide receiver Don Beebe sprinted like 70 yards down the sidelines to strip the ball from a Cowboy defender (Leon Lett) and prevent a Dallas fumble-recovery touchdown. Back in the dark days between when that happened and the ESPN documentary was shot, Beebe was lauded as an exemplar of perseverance and sportsmanship (the game was a Dallas blowout by then). But of course in CURRENT YEAR America we now know the disgusting, privileged Beebe was oppressing Lett by taking away his right to show-boatingly high step it into the endzone. The official record must be corrected, post-haste! Preferably by having Beebe vaporized and the 30 FOR 30 director and writer sent to Room 101. Lett, Michael Irvin, and Emittt Smith should also be credited as the inventors of selfies, Facebook, and the Internet, respectively, which they unveiled to a dazzled nation after their Superbowl victory so that the author's theory about social media being the cause of blacks' peculiar notion of "sportsmanship" doesn't look like it came straight out of bizarro world.

    Replies: @Ivy, @Truth, @Chris Berman, @guest

    But of course in CURRENT YEAR America we now know the disgusting, privileged Beebe was oppressing Lett by taking away his right to show-boatingly high step it into the endzone. The official record must be corrected, post-haste! Preferably by having Beebe vaporized and the 30 FOR 30 director and writer sent to Room 101. Lett, Michael Irvin, and Emittt Smith should also be credited as the inventors of selfies, Facebook, and the Internet, respectively, which they unveiled to a dazzled nation after their Superbowl victory so that the author’s theory about social media being the cause of blacks’ peculiar notion of “sportsmanship” doesn’t look like it came straight out of bizarro world.

    Dude, I mean this will every iota of empathy I can muster, and with all possible respect; please build yourself some semblance of a life…

    • LOL: Abe
  188. I just don’t understand why 14% of the population doesn’t dominate every single pro sport.
    It must be racism, since Blacks are obviously genetic supermen.
    /sarcasm off/

    Does the writer realize that Baseball isn’t the “White man’s game” but the “Jewish man’s game”?

    Koufax, Greenberg, Palmer, Rosen, etc. Because its the only major league sport with Jewish superstars, we’ve got a million books about Baseball AND we get baseball articles in the New Yorker. Not to mention movies, movies and more movies.

    Finally, I find it humorous that a sport that’s only 62% white and Asian is now the “White man’s game”.

  189. BTW, blacks dominate the NFL and NBA primarily due to speed and leaping ability. But that’s not much use in Major League Baseball. Pitchers, catchers, 1st baseman, and even 3rd baseman don’t have to run anywhere. Even running on the base-paths and stealing isn’t that important compared to hitting home runs.

    So, running fast or quickness is important in baseball but nowhere the dominating factor that it is in the NFL or NBA.

    Plus there’s a big learning factor in baseball, because they’re a lot of skill involved. Whereas in the NFL all you need to do is run fast and knock other people down.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Honesthughgrant

    Funny thing is that whites seem to do fine at sudden lateral leaping, like Brooks Robinson or Mike Schmidt at third base. There doesn't seem to be much correlation between running speed and the quick first step necessary to play third.

    Replies: @Honesthughgrant, @ben tillman, @Desiderius

    , @guest
    @Honesthughgrant

    Tell that to Ricky Henderson!

  190. @Steve Sailer
    @hhsiii

    The U. of Kansas basketball dynasty goes back to James Naismith in the 19th Century:

    The University of Kansas men's basketball program officially began in 1898, following Naismith's arrival, just six years after Naismith drafted the sport's first official rules. ... However, Naismith coached Forrest "Phog" Allen, his eventual successor at Kansas,[17] ... Allen embarked on a coaching career that would lead him to be known as "the Father of Basketball Coaching." During his time at Kansas, Allen coached Dean Smith (1952 National Championship team) and Adolph Rupp (1922 Helms Foundation National Championship team). Allen, Smith and Rupp have joined Naismith as members of the Basketball Hall of Fame.

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @Polynikes

    It’s wild. Kansas goes back to the inventor of basketball. They have had what, 7 coaches in a hundred years? Naismith. Phog Allen. Ted Owens. Larry Brown. Roy Williams. Bill Self. Some other guy?

    Is Brown in the hall of fame?

    Brown and Art Heyman fight in 1961. The real start of the UNC/Duke rivalry:

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Hhsiii

    I remember Sport Magazine featured Art Heyman when he played at Duke.

  191. @Honesthughgrant
    BTW, blacks dominate the NFL and NBA primarily due to speed and leaping ability. But that's not much use in Major League Baseball. Pitchers, catchers, 1st baseman, and even 3rd baseman don't have to run anywhere. Even running on the base-paths and stealing isn't that important compared to hitting home runs.

    So, running fast or quickness is important in baseball but nowhere the dominating factor that it is in the NFL or NBA.

    Plus there's a big learning factor in baseball, because they're a lot of skill involved. Whereas in the NFL all you need to do is run fast and knock other people down.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @guest

    Funny thing is that whites seem to do fine at sudden lateral leaping, like Brooks Robinson or Mike Schmidt at third base. There doesn’t seem to be much correlation between running speed and the quick first step necessary to play third.

    • Replies: @Honesthughgrant
    @Steve Sailer

    Robinson won 16 golden glove awards at the 3rd base. Yet, he was a slow base-runner. He hit into four triple plays during his career, a major league record. And his base stealing stats: 28 bases stolen, caught stealing 22. IOW, he basically stole 1 base a year and got caught 1 other time. Talk about a lead foot.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    , @ben tillman
    @Steve Sailer

    Or between running speed and anticipation or reflexes. I was always moving before the ball struck the bat.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    , @Desiderius
    @Steve Sailer

    Fast-twitch fibers in the brain.

  192. @Hacienda
    @hhsiii

    If a house had a driveway and boys, it had a basketball board. The IndyStar had a headline in about 1973 "Basketball, Black Man's Bonanza". Really. I remember having a talk with my coach about a mother who had come up to him saying that basketball was a black man's sport and whites shouldn't play it. Really. Lots, I mean lots of conversations about how blacks are too quick and whites couldn't make it professionally. I believe this was clearly the beginning of the end.

    Mount and Roger (not Freddy) Brown were shooting guards. Point guards have a court vision and the hands. It's a more frenetic position. Goodrich and Klay Thompson seem soft compared to West and Curry, but part of that comes with being shooting guards. But, still Mount was soft. Thanks for bringing up his name. Had forgotten about him. Mel Daniels was a beast. He would outplay Dan Issel routinely in Pacers and Kentucky Colonels games. That was a big thing then. We hated on Issel because of the rivalry and his being from Kentucky.

    Knight thought he was cheated from the championship in 1975. That was the year they had a perfect record 31-0 until Scott May injured his elbow(?) and lost to Kentucky of all damn teams in the quarter-finals. Wooden won his last championship that year with pure coaching finesse, but almost definitely would have lost to a healthy Indiana. Knight had it in for UCLA ever since and would routinely shellack UCLA for the rest of his career.

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @David In TN

    That was a great Indiana team that went unbeaten the next year. That Kentucky team had Kevin Greavey. UCLA had David Meyers, Richard Washington, and I think Swen Nater was a backup. Indiana had Scott May. His son Sean started on UNC’s 2005 championship team. Also Quinn Buckner, Bobby Wilkerson, Kent Benson. Even 6th man John Laskowski made the NBA.

    Larry Bird was a freshman the next year. He says Benson was a jerk to him. Benson was a high draft pick. Jab bar broke his jaw during his first month in the NBA. Around the time Kermit Washington almost killed Rudy Tomjanovich.

  193. Second year in a row RayRay showboats away a TD. Hilarious:

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Hhsiii

    What did he do last year? Meanwhile, Renfro's out for 6-8 weeks after making another amazing TD catch. Which counted.

  194. @TheJester
    Recently there was a "season opening" reception for the Redskins football team in Tyson's Corner, Virginia. From the news photo, the team looked like a loose collection of gangbangers from the hood ... perhaps representative of the NFL today. It is not too far a stretch to expect many to them to have moved their turf battles from the hood to the stadium, with the "Man" increasingly the target as it appears to be in most places as the result of Obama's enabling policies.

    So, after the refusal to stand for the national anthem, what can we expect next? A la the University of Missouri, will it be a refusal by Black players to play unless the NFL agrees to their (yet unstated) demands?

    As the phrase goes, "You reap what you sow ...." Perhaps a day of reckoning in the NFL similar to Ronald Reagan's standoff with the FAA air traffic controller's union is in order before the attempt by Black players to take over the NFL gets out of control.

    Replies: @EdwardM

    The tort lawyers, regulators, and busybodies are trying their best to squeeze football out of existence. I predict that they will succeed. They are already targeting high school, youth (Pop Warner just got sued), and college football, with the hope of drying up the pool of interested and talented players so that the professional leagues wither away.

    I suppose blacks who see white society as oppressing them will be proven correct when the white SJW ranks of the nanny state yank blacks’ sport — and the 5,000 or so scholarships to major (D-IA football) universities — out from under them.

  195. @Steve Sailer
    @mts1

    Richard Feynman was in charge of programming a roomful of women computers at Los Alamos.

    Replies: @Jack D

    My recollection is that it was a bunch of young male draftees. Initially they didn’t tell them what they were doing due to secrecy, but Feynman convinced the folks in charge that he should be allowed to tell them what the numbers meant and their productivity shot up and they thought of clever short cuts.

  196. @Anonymous
    @Unladen Swallow

    Almost half the NBA owners are Jewish:

    "Why Are So Many Pro Basketball Owners Jewish (Like Donald Sterling)?"

    http://forward.com/news/israel/197643/why-are-so-many-pro-basketball-owners-jewish-like/


    .There are only three Jewish players in the NBA, and no Jewish head coaches. Yet nearly half the principal owners of NBA teams are Jewish, as are the league’s current commissioner and its immediate past commissioner.

    No other major pro league in the United States has such a high proportion of Jewish owners. The NFL comes closest: Roughly a third of that league’s owners are Jewish. Just a handful of pro baseball and hockey owners are Jews.
     

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @snorlax, @ScarletNumber, @Brutusale, @ben tillman

    .There are only three Jewish players in the NBA, and no Jewish head coaches.

    Say what?

    No Jewish head coaches? Did they find a five-minute window in the spring of 2014 which this might actually have been true? I don’t think it was true even then, but typically about 10% of NBA head coaches are Jewish.

    • Replies: @Honesthughgrant
    @ben tillman


    No Jewish head coaches? Did they find a five-minute window in the spring of 2014 which this might actually have been true? I don’t think it was true even then, but typically about 10% of NBA head coaches are Jewish.
     
    Yes, Holtzman, Red auerbach and Larry Brown come to mind. Holtzman and Auderbach were geniuses, but Brown seems to stayed on the league based on this on ability to schmooze with the Jewish owners. 25 years in the NBA/ABA and not one championship until 2004. And then the guy goes to the NCAA and does OK for a couple years primarily due to some shady recruiting practices.
  197. @Steve Sailer
    @Honesthughgrant

    Funny thing is that whites seem to do fine at sudden lateral leaping, like Brooks Robinson or Mike Schmidt at third base. There doesn't seem to be much correlation between running speed and the quick first step necessary to play third.

    Replies: @Honesthughgrant, @ben tillman, @Desiderius

    Robinson won 16 golden glove awards at the 3rd base. Yet, he was a slow base-runner. He hit into four triple plays during his career, a major league record. And his base stealing stats: 28 bases stolen, caught stealing 22. IOW, he basically stole 1 base a year and got caught 1 other time. Talk about a lead foot.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Honesthughgrant

    Schmidt managed to steal 29 in a single year, but there's a lot more to base-stealing than speed, as I'm sure you know. Quite possibly many of Robinsons CS's were the result of botched hit-and-runs anyway.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @William BadWhite

  198. @Steve Sailer
    @hhsiii

    The U. of Kansas basketball dynasty goes back to James Naismith in the 19th Century:

    The University of Kansas men's basketball program officially began in 1898, following Naismith's arrival, just six years after Naismith drafted the sport's first official rules. ... However, Naismith coached Forrest "Phog" Allen, his eventual successor at Kansas,[17] ... Allen embarked on a coaching career that would lead him to be known as "the Father of Basketball Coaching." During his time at Kansas, Allen coached Dean Smith (1952 National Championship team) and Adolph Rupp (1922 Helms Foundation National Championship team). Allen, Smith and Rupp have joined Naismith as members of the Basketball Hall of Fame.

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @Polynikes

    I mean that’s basketball 101. Even in Naismiths day basketball was king in Indiana. Naismith recognized as much. Indiana HS coaches spread basketball in north Carolina long before the naismith-Allen-smith connection got there.

    The rabid popularity of basketball of Indiana dates almost back to the game’s founding. Not sure why, but it was as much a rural game there as anywhere else.

    “Basketball really had its beginning in Indiana, which remains today in the center of the sport.”

    –Dr. Naismith – 1936

  199. @ben tillman
    @Anonymous


    .There are only three Jewish players in the NBA, and no Jewish head coaches.
     
    Say what?

    No Jewish head coaches? Did they find a five-minute window in the spring of 2014 which this might actually have been true? I don't think it was true even then, but typically about 10% of NBA head coaches are Jewish.

    Replies: @Honesthughgrant

    No Jewish head coaches? Did they find a five-minute window in the spring of 2014 which this might actually have been true? I don’t think it was true even then, but typically about 10% of NBA head coaches are Jewish.

    Yes, Holtzman, Red auerbach and Larry Brown come to mind. Holtzman and Auderbach were geniuses, but Brown seems to stayed on the league based on this on ability to schmooze with the Jewish owners. 25 years in the NBA/ABA and not one championship until 2004. And then the guy goes to the NCAA and does OK for a couple years primarily due to some shady recruiting practices.

  200. The game has cultivated the front-office posture of a Fortune 500 company, placing another barrier to advancement for people of color by preferring young, often unproven Ivy League talent over people of color who have deep institutional knowledge of how baseball works and is played but now lack the graduate degrees that have become the new prerequisite.

    Three or four months ago, 103.3 (the local ESPN station) gave one of the Rangers’ Latin American players a little quiz. One of the questions was, “How many feet between bases?” The answer he gave was, “I don’t know — 20?”

  201. @Hhsiii
    Second year in a row RayRay showboats away a TD. Hilarious:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bWeqnsaJIFg

    Replies: @ben tillman

    What did he do last year? Meanwhile, Renfro’s out for 6-8 weeks after making another amazing TD catch. Which counted.

  202. @Steve Sailer
    @Honesthughgrant

    Funny thing is that whites seem to do fine at sudden lateral leaping, like Brooks Robinson or Mike Schmidt at third base. There doesn't seem to be much correlation between running speed and the quick first step necessary to play third.

    Replies: @Honesthughgrant, @ben tillman, @Desiderius

    Or between running speed and anticipation or reflexes. I was always moving before the ball struck the bat.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @ben tillman

    The ever-quotable Earl Weaver once said that the key step for an infielder is the first one, and it happens before the ball is hit.

  203. @Honesthughgrant
    @Steve Sailer

    Robinson won 16 golden glove awards at the 3rd base. Yet, he was a slow base-runner. He hit into four triple plays during his career, a major league record. And his base stealing stats: 28 bases stolen, caught stealing 22. IOW, he basically stole 1 base a year and got caught 1 other time. Talk about a lead foot.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    Schmidt managed to steal 29 in a single year, but there’s a lot more to base-stealing than speed, as I’m sure you know. Quite possibly many of Robinsons CS’s were the result of botched hit-and-runs anyway.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @ben tillman


    Quite possibly many of Robinsons CS’s were the result of botched hit-and-runs anyway.
     
    Earl Weaver was a forerunner to the Moneyball gang (wasn't much for stolen base attempts). Doubt they hit-and-ran as much as other teams either, but yeah one a year is feasible.

    Replies: @Brutusale, @ben tillman

    , @William BadWhite
    @ben tillman

    Earl Weaver hated the hit-and-run. Tom Boswell of the WashPo would sometimes ask him about it just to wind him up.

    Replies: @ben tillman

  204. @Anon
    The decline of blacks in baseball has to do with one of the natural sporting advantages whites have over blacks. It's aim. Whites simply have better aim than blacks. This is one reason why football quarterbacks are normally white, why nearly all pro golfers are white, and why nearly all Olympic-class shooters are white. They are all aim-dependent.

    In baseball, everyone on the team has to be able to aim well because everybody on that team has to throw a ball to another player at one point or another during the game to prevent the other team from scoring. You also have to have first class eye-tracking ability to be able to hit a ball that's coming at you at 100 mph. This is a skill that uses the same set of neurons that are necessary for aim. Black players have just been classed right out of the game.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @Former Darfur

    There are a lot of blacks in baseball, as anyone who watches it can plainly see. It;s just that people have been programmed to believe if a negro has a Spanish name, he is not a negro but “Hispanic” or “Latino”. And most of the blacks in baseball today are from south of the Rio Grande, far south of it.

    Since those blacks are successful, and since at one time many American blacks were successful, it follows this theory is incorrect.

    However, the theory that blacks could never have invented baseball and that blacks generally would make terrible general managers, is one with considerable evidence based support.

  205. @Anon
    The decline of blacks in baseball has to do with one of the natural sporting advantages whites have over blacks. It's aim. Whites simply have better aim than blacks. This is one reason why football quarterbacks are normally white, why nearly all pro golfers are white, and why nearly all Olympic-class shooters are white. They are all aim-dependent.

    In baseball, everyone on the team has to be able to aim well because everybody on that team has to throw a ball to another player at one point or another during the game to prevent the other team from scoring. You also have to have first class eye-tracking ability to be able to hit a ball that's coming at you at 100 mph. This is a skill that uses the same set of neurons that are necessary for aim. Black players have just been classed right out of the game.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @Former Darfur

    There are a lot of blacks in baseball, as anyone who watches it can plainly see. It;s just that people have been programmed to believe if a negro has a Spanish name, he is not a negro but “Hispanic” or “Latino”. And most of the blacks in baseball today are from south of the Rio Grande, far south of it.

    Since those blacks are successful, and since at one time many American blacks were successful, it follows this theory is incorrect.

    However, the theory that blacks could never have invented baseball and that blacks generally would make terrible general managers, is one with considerable evidence based support.

  206. @Hacienda
    @hhsiii

    If a house had a driveway and boys, it had a basketball board. The IndyStar had a headline in about 1973 "Basketball, Black Man's Bonanza". Really. I remember having a talk with my coach about a mother who had come up to him saying that basketball was a black man's sport and whites shouldn't play it. Really. Lots, I mean lots of conversations about how blacks are too quick and whites couldn't make it professionally. I believe this was clearly the beginning of the end.

    Mount and Roger (not Freddy) Brown were shooting guards. Point guards have a court vision and the hands. It's a more frenetic position. Goodrich and Klay Thompson seem soft compared to West and Curry, but part of that comes with being shooting guards. But, still Mount was soft. Thanks for bringing up his name. Had forgotten about him. Mel Daniels was a beast. He would outplay Dan Issel routinely in Pacers and Kentucky Colonels games. That was a big thing then. We hated on Issel because of the rivalry and his being from Kentucky.

    Knight thought he was cheated from the championship in 1975. That was the year they had a perfect record 31-0 until Scott May injured his elbow(?) and lost to Kentucky of all damn teams in the quarter-finals. Wooden won his last championship that year with pure coaching finesse, but almost definitely would have lost to a healthy Indiana. Knight had it in for UCLA ever since and would routinely shellack UCLA for the rest of his career.

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @David In TN

    Speaking of Rick Mount, he had some spectacular shooting performances in the 1969 NCAA Tournament. A writer for the Nashville Tennessean sports section was moved to write “Rick Mount is far better than Pete Maravich.”

    Of course their respective pro careers didn’t turn out that way.

  207. @Hhsiii
    @Steve Sailer

    It's wild. Kansas goes back to the inventor of basketball. They have had what, 7 coaches in a hundred years? Naismith. Phog Allen. Ted Owens. Larry Brown. Roy Williams. Bill Self. Some other guy?

    Is Brown in the hall of fame?

    Brown and Art Heyman fight in 1961. The real start of the UNC/Duke rivalry:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I0RroAH4vwU

    Replies: @David In TN

    I remember Sport Magazine featured Art Heyman when he played at Duke.

  208. @Steve Sailer
    @Honesthughgrant

    Funny thing is that whites seem to do fine at sudden lateral leaping, like Brooks Robinson or Mike Schmidt at third base. There doesn't seem to be much correlation between running speed and the quick first step necessary to play third.

    Replies: @Honesthughgrant, @ben tillman, @Desiderius

    Fast-twitch fibers in the brain.

  209. @ben tillman
    @Honesthughgrant

    Schmidt managed to steal 29 in a single year, but there's a lot more to base-stealing than speed, as I'm sure you know. Quite possibly many of Robinsons CS's were the result of botched hit-and-runs anyway.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @William BadWhite

    Quite possibly many of Robinsons CS’s were the result of botched hit-and-runs anyway.

    Earl Weaver was a forerunner to the Moneyball gang (wasn’t much for stolen base attempts). Doubt they hit-and-ran as much as other teams either, but yeah one a year is feasible.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Desiderius

    Earl Weaver is on record with his philosophy for winning baseball games: pitching, defense, and three-run homers. You'll sometimes see the quote with fundamentals in place of defense.

    , @ben tillman
    @Desiderius

    Robinson was 9-12 on stolen bases under Weaver; 19-38 before Weaver took over.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  210. The game has cultivated the front-office posture of a Fortune 500 company, placing another barrier to advancement for people of color by preferring young, often unproven Ivy League talent over people of color who have deep institutional knowledge of how baseball works and is played but now lack the graduate degrees that have become the new prerequisite.

    Ironically (perhaps) this is not dissimilar from the (justified) complaints of many on the alt-right. It’s the same gang screwing both groups.

  211. @Jonah
    ESPN.com has gone full SJW over the past couple years. I've read less and less as it's happened. I'm not the only one. Looks like the past year has seen it fall about 140 spots in terms of worldwide popularity from 110ish to 248.

    http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/espn.go.com

    After this article, I think I'm ready to switch - after 17 years of ESPN.com as one of my top bookmarks - to SI.com.

    Replies: @SnakeEyes, @aNONYMous, @Jokah Macpherson, @Carbon blob, @The preferred nomenclature is..., @young_american, @Marty T

    SI had Bruce “Caitlyn” Jenner on the cover. ALL sports media is infected with leftism. ALL of it. Just as the sports leagues are (or at least the suits who make the decisions). The NCAA moved all its tournament games out of North Carolina in its attempt to defeat a governor who wants separate bathrooms for men and women.

    Its getting the point where if the Muslims take over, we’ll deserve it.

  212. @John Mansfield
    @Maj. Kong

    Somewhere working into the recent lionization of the military is the end of conscription after Vietnam. From 1940 until 1973, conscripts were inducted every year except for 1947. Even in 1958, the year Elvis was drafted and sent to Germany, there were 142,000 draftees, a third of the Vietnam peak. Being drafted into the army was a feature of American life for a third of a century. My father and all five of my uncles did some kind of military service. But among my couple dozen male cousins, only two ever enlisted. In 2012, for the first time since Roosevelt beat Dewey, neither party's presidential candidate was a former military officer.

    Only a small fraction of men under 60 have served in the military, and that is creating a reverence toward those who are or have. Veterans aren't as common as water anymore.

    Replies: @duncsbaby, @ScarletNumber

    Clinton never served in the military.

    • Replies: @John Mansfield
    @duncsbaby

    Both of those Clinton faced in the general election were veterans. Half of Dole's message was "Hey, America, last chance to vote for a World War II vet."

  213. Coaching, and eventually playing, will demand ever greater cognitive skills. Look at what Moneyball *DID*. It enabled (for a while anyway until everyone copied it), smaller market teams to compete with bigger ones. Now it allows perennial doormats like the Dodgers and Cubs to be dominant, at least in the regular season.

    Look at Bill Belichick. He figured out a way around the touchback to the 25 yard line. Just kick it really, really HIGH and let his team cover and force the ball down around the 15-20 yard line. Preventing the big play. The Patriots are also genius at finding undervalued players who only do one thing really well. And … having them do JUST that one thing; not asking them to do other things.

    Smart. And that WILL spread to other sports, save Basketball which seems coaching free. Sports btw seems to appeal to the desire to see leadership; those sports most popular have coaches as important as players. Who is the Laker’s coach now? Meanwhile front office people in selecting and developing players and doing so under salary caps matter almost as much as players and coaches.

    And Black players, coaches, and front office personnel won’t fair very well under heavy cognitive demands. Heck Yasiel Puig is very athletic, and the Dodgers can’t unload him. No one wants him at all.

  214. @John Mansfield
    @Maj. Kong

    Somewhere working into the recent lionization of the military is the end of conscription after Vietnam. From 1940 until 1973, conscripts were inducted every year except for 1947. Even in 1958, the year Elvis was drafted and sent to Germany, there were 142,000 draftees, a third of the Vietnam peak. Being drafted into the army was a feature of American life for a third of a century. My father and all five of my uncles did some kind of military service. But among my couple dozen male cousins, only two ever enlisted. In 2012, for the first time since Roosevelt beat Dewey, neither party's presidential candidate was a former military officer.

    Only a small fraction of men under 60 have served in the military, and that is creating a reverence toward those who are or have. Veterans aren't as common as water anymore.

    Replies: @duncsbaby, @ScarletNumber

    Another feature of the draft is that it encouraged some to join in order to make them draft ineligible and to give them some control over their destiny. Two famous examples were Ralph Nader and Ted Kennedy. Nader was an attorney who did 6 months of KP at Fort Dix.

  215. @Ivy
    @Abe

    30 for 30!
    One of my favorites is about Bo Jackson. What a pleasure to see so much talent in two sports.

    Replies: @Abe

    30 for 30!
    One of my favorites is about Bo Jackson. What a pleasure to see so much talent in two sports.

    Wow, I just finished watching that today, talk about coincidence! I think everybody remembers the BO KNOWS shoe marketing campaign, but in the relative Information Dark Ages of the early 90’s I never even realized what happened to him until I watched that documentary (at the time I was too poor to afford a regular newspaper subscription or cable). He went from being the biggest name in sports to suddenly disappearing, just like the BRITISH KNIGHTS shoe brand of the same era. Because of his stammer he also apparently shied away from the press, so no one much remembers any catchphrase of his, or really even what he sounded like. Seemed like a decent enough, well-spoken guy, but honestly not hugely interesting (in a good way) so I enjoyed that one more as a period piece. Best moment for me was seeing Ronald Reagan pop-in as a guest commentator during the ’89 MLB All-Star Game. Have this memory of him winning the Cold War, then immediately succumbing to Alzheimer’s, so it was nice to be reminded he had a couple good, lucid years in between.

  216. @duncsbaby
    @John Mansfield

    Clinton never served in the military.

    Replies: @John Mansfield

    Both of those Clinton faced in the general election were veterans. Half of Dole’s message was “Hey, America, last chance to vote for a World War II vet.”

  217. @Mark Caplan
    How is kneeling before the National Anthem or the American flag a sign of disrespect. Kneeling is a sign of heightened respect, as when a slave kneels before his master, or a subject kneels before his sovereign. What is more symbolic of American patriotism than the no doubt apocryphal painting of George Washington at Valley Forge kneeling before God:

    http://www.whitestones.org/prayerslaves/washington.png

    Colin Kaepernick I imagine was raised Catholic, so got used to doing a lot of kneeling from an early age. It was always a sign of respect and humility.

    Patriotic Americans might want to follow Kaepernick's leadership and kneel whenever the National Anthem is played or the American flag is ceremoniously raised.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Capt., Kaepernick actually takes a knee, he is not kneeling. However, in the Catholic Church, genuflecting, one knee to the ground, a bowed head and then stand up again, is the highest form of respect other than lying prostrate.

  218. @Arclight
    I wish I could remember who said it, but maybe 10 years ago I read a piece wondering about declining black participation in baseball, and it quoted some black sports figure saying that it's because it's a game often taught by fathers to sons, and most black kids are not raised by their fathers anymore, unlike whites and latinos. Seemed to be as good of an explanation as any.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Arclight, I learned baseball from my father and also skating, camping, fishing, how to use a saw and a hammer, basic plumbing and electrical and how to be respectful. Not too many single moms can do that.

  219. @Abe
    As others have said, I'm immensely enjoying watching the sports cucks squirm (and to be honest, this has helped wean me off my own frivolous attachment to professional sports). But I admit to a guilty pleasure- I do still watch episodes of ESPN's 30 FOR 30 sports documentaries while exercising, mostly for the nostalgia trips (or so I tell myself). Remember how the '91 BILLS-GIANTS Superbowl had military-level security (Apache gunships flying overhead, the works) as it was feared Saddam Hussein might try a terrorist strike on the eve of Desert Storm? Wild times!

    Anyway, in that same documentary on the Bills' unprecedented loss of 4-straight championships, there was the expected vignette about their moral victory when Bills wide receiver Don Beebe sprinted like 70 yards down the sidelines to strip the ball from a Cowboy defender (Leon Lett) and prevent a Dallas fumble-recovery touchdown. Back in the dark days between when that happened and the ESPN documentary was shot, Beebe was lauded as an exemplar of perseverance and sportsmanship (the game was a Dallas blowout by then). But of course in CURRENT YEAR America we now know the disgusting, privileged Beebe was oppressing Lett by taking away his right to show-boatingly high step it into the endzone. The official record must be corrected, post-haste! Preferably by having Beebe vaporized and the 30 FOR 30 director and writer sent to Room 101. Lett, Michael Irvin, and Emittt Smith should also be credited as the inventors of selfies, Facebook, and the Internet, respectively, which they unveiled to a dazzled nation after their Superbowl victory so that the author's theory about social media being the cause of blacks' peculiar notion of "sportsmanship" doesn't look like it came straight out of bizarro world.

    Replies: @Ivy, @Truth, @Chris Berman, @guest

    Don Beebe won a Superbowl with Green Bay when they played 2 home games in Milwaukee.

    #BlackLivesMatter.

  220. @ben tillman
    @Honesthughgrant

    Schmidt managed to steal 29 in a single year, but there's a lot more to base-stealing than speed, as I'm sure you know. Quite possibly many of Robinsons CS's were the result of botched hit-and-runs anyway.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @William BadWhite

    Earl Weaver hated the hit-and-run. Tom Boswell of the WashPo would sometimes ask him about it just to wind him up.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @William BadWhite


    Earl Weaver hated the hit-and-run. Tom Boswell of the WashPo would sometimes ask him about it just to wind him up.
     
    Sure, But Robinson played more than 1500 games before Weaver took over the Orioles. Only 3 of his 22 CS's were under Weaver's watch.

    Replies: @William BadWhite

  221. @ben tillman
    @Steve Sailer

    Or between running speed and anticipation or reflexes. I was always moving before the ball struck the bat.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    The ever-quotable Earl Weaver once said that the key step for an infielder is the first one, and it happens before the ball is hit.

  222. @Desiderius
    @ben tillman


    Quite possibly many of Robinsons CS’s were the result of botched hit-and-runs anyway.
     
    Earl Weaver was a forerunner to the Moneyball gang (wasn't much for stolen base attempts). Doubt they hit-and-ran as much as other teams either, but yeah one a year is feasible.

    Replies: @Brutusale, @ben tillman

    Earl Weaver is on record with his philosophy for winning baseball games: pitching, defense, and three-run homers. You’ll sometimes see the quote with fundamentals in place of defense.

  223. @William BadWhite
    @ben tillman

    Earl Weaver hated the hit-and-run. Tom Boswell of the WashPo would sometimes ask him about it just to wind him up.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    Earl Weaver hated the hit-and-run. Tom Boswell of the WashPo would sometimes ask him about it just to wind him up.

    Sure, But Robinson played more than 1500 games before Weaver took over the Orioles. Only 3 of his 22 CS’s were under Weaver’s watch.

    • Replies: @William BadWhite
    @ben tillman

    "Sure, But Robinson played more than 1500 games before Weaver took over the Orioles. Only 3 of his 22 CS’s were under Weaver’s watch."

    Agh you're correct, I should have known that. When I started following baseball in the early 70's Brooks was nearing the end of the line and Weaver was already there and it seemed like he'd just always been there.

    So stop confusing me with facts!

    Replies: @ben tillman

  224. @Desiderius
    @ben tillman


    Quite possibly many of Robinsons CS’s were the result of botched hit-and-runs anyway.
     
    Earl Weaver was a forerunner to the Moneyball gang (wasn't much for stolen base attempts). Doubt they hit-and-ran as much as other teams either, but yeah one a year is feasible.

    Replies: @Brutusale, @ben tillman

    Robinson was 9-12 on stolen bases under Weaver; 19-38 before Weaver took over.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @ben tillman


    Robinson was 9-12 on stolen bases under Weaver; 19-38 before Weaver took over.
     
    All I remember was his highway robbery of my poor Reds when I was six months old. Of course, if we hadn't given them the other Robinson for peanuts, it may have all been moot.
  225. @George Taylor
    I recently heard a host of a radio sports talk show, whom I believe was White, responding Howard Bryant's allegation. He was mostly supportive of the comment and went on and on about all the financial barriers that poor Black kids have to overcome to play baseball. He was talking about the cost of equipment, he went on to explain this is why Hockey is mostly White. Okay Hockey I get, all the fee's to get limited ice time, not to much natural winter ice south of Minnesota. He went on to say in basketball all you need is the ball, okay I get that but is baseball really that more expensive? Historically it was a street game, hence the term sandlot. Sure it's nice to have a mitt, it may not be preferably, but one bat can be shared by many kids and both teams. He went on to say Football was cheaper, hmmm really? Football helmets start around $75 on Amazon, then there's all the other pads. If finances were the only reason why are there so few Black American soccer players, you can kick just about anything around?

    This must have been a shock to all the liberal White followers of the game. They adore the historical Negro leagues and stat's as much as MLB. I mean, Ken Burns sure did spend a substantial amount of time in his PBS documentary on Baseball discussing the Negro leagues, Jackie Robinson et al.

    Replies: @L7's

    My boy plays all these sports…football is the most expensive though they all are expensive. ….almost no blacks in little league tons in football. …it has nothing to do with barriers blacks no longer enjoy baseball. ….white dad’s are still into baseball and make sure their sons play black dad’s don’t give a shit about nothing but football and hoops

  226. @ben tillman
    @Desiderius

    Robinson was 9-12 on stolen bases under Weaver; 19-38 before Weaver took over.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Robinson was 9-12 on stolen bases under Weaver; 19-38 before Weaver took over.

    All I remember was his highway robbery of my poor Reds when I was six months old. Of course, if we hadn’t given them the other Robinson for peanuts, it may have all been moot.

  227. @ben tillman
    @William BadWhite


    Earl Weaver hated the hit-and-run. Tom Boswell of the WashPo would sometimes ask him about it just to wind him up.
     
    Sure, But Robinson played more than 1500 games before Weaver took over the Orioles. Only 3 of his 22 CS's were under Weaver's watch.

    Replies: @William BadWhite

    “Sure, But Robinson played more than 1500 games before Weaver took over the Orioles. Only 3 of his 22 CS’s were under Weaver’s watch.”

    Agh you’re correct, I should have known that. When I started following baseball in the early 70’s Brooks was nearing the end of the line and Weaver was already there and it seemed like he’d just always been there.

    So stop confusing me with facts!

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @William BadWhite


    Agh you’re correct, I should have known that. When I started following baseball in the early 70′s Brooks was nearing the end of the line and Weaver was already there and it seemed like he’d just always been there.
     
    Same here. I understand fully.
  228. @Alec Leamas
    @Thomas

    A non-cucked governor could call the NCAA's bluff and whip the legislature to revoke the NCAA's authorization to conduct business in the State.

    Perhaps a letter along the lines of "We regret your decision to cease conducting business in the Tar Heel State. Accordingly, and in conformity with your wishes, we have revoked the NCAA's authorization to conduct business in North Carolina. All North Carolina Public Universities have hereby been withdrawn from the NCAA. To the extent that North Carolina's private Universities wish to remain member institutions in the NCAA, our legislature has withdrawn State funding and State nonprofit status from said institutions. NCAA merchandise sold in North Carolina by third party vendors is now subject to a sales tax of 80% of its market value. The North Carolina Department of Public Safety has revoked the authority of the NCAA to sanction athletic events within the State of North Carolina . . . "

    These punks get away with this bullshit because they get to pick and choose flagship events on which to grandstand while still reaping the benefits of conducting business in the States that they're protesting.

    Replies: @Marty T

    If he wins re-election, I’d so love to see Gov. McCrory hammer the NCAA like that. But he’s gotta win re-election first and that’s gonna be tough.

  229. @Abe
    As others have said, I'm immensely enjoying watching the sports cucks squirm (and to be honest, this has helped wean me off my own frivolous attachment to professional sports). But I admit to a guilty pleasure- I do still watch episodes of ESPN's 30 FOR 30 sports documentaries while exercising, mostly for the nostalgia trips (or so I tell myself). Remember how the '91 BILLS-GIANTS Superbowl had military-level security (Apache gunships flying overhead, the works) as it was feared Saddam Hussein might try a terrorist strike on the eve of Desert Storm? Wild times!

    Anyway, in that same documentary on the Bills' unprecedented loss of 4-straight championships, there was the expected vignette about their moral victory when Bills wide receiver Don Beebe sprinted like 70 yards down the sidelines to strip the ball from a Cowboy defender (Leon Lett) and prevent a Dallas fumble-recovery touchdown. Back in the dark days between when that happened and the ESPN documentary was shot, Beebe was lauded as an exemplar of perseverance and sportsmanship (the game was a Dallas blowout by then). But of course in CURRENT YEAR America we now know the disgusting, privileged Beebe was oppressing Lett by taking away his right to show-boatingly high step it into the endzone. The official record must be corrected, post-haste! Preferably by having Beebe vaporized and the 30 FOR 30 director and writer sent to Room 101. Lett, Michael Irvin, and Emittt Smith should also be credited as the inventors of selfies, Facebook, and the Internet, respectively, which they unveiled to a dazzled nation after their Superbowl victory so that the author's theory about social media being the cause of blacks' peculiar notion of "sportsmanship" doesn't look like it came straight out of bizarro world.

    Replies: @Ivy, @Truth, @Chris Berman, @guest

    My memory of the winningly losery, or loserly winning Bills pretty much begins and ends with the Great Comeback against the Oilers. Remember that? I happened to be watching on tv, maybe ten years old. The stadium emptied halfway through or so, when the Bills were down by like 30 points. Then, when the impossible happened and they had a chance to win, the fans streamed back in. It was surreal.

    I don’t even think Jim Kelly was involved. Beebe was.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @guest

    I happened to see the LA Kings hockey team come back from a 5-0 deficit with 15 minutes left against Wayne Gretzky's Edmonton Oilers in a 1982 playoff match, the Miracle on Manchester. My friend, who was a big Kings fan, left in depression with 16 minutes to go. He heard the roar of the crowd as the Kings finally scored their first goal as he was exiting, thought about returning, but didn't.

    , @MC
    @guest

    Jim Kelly was injured, so he was replaced by Frank Reich, who interestingly was also the quarterback who orchestrated the greatest second-half comeback in college football history (at the time) when he played at Maryland.

  230. @Honesthughgrant
    BTW, blacks dominate the NFL and NBA primarily due to speed and leaping ability. But that's not much use in Major League Baseball. Pitchers, catchers, 1st baseman, and even 3rd baseman don't have to run anywhere. Even running on the base-paths and stealing isn't that important compared to hitting home runs.

    So, running fast or quickness is important in baseball but nowhere the dominating factor that it is in the NFL or NBA.

    Plus there's a big learning factor in baseball, because they're a lot of skill involved. Whereas in the NFL all you need to do is run fast and knock other people down.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @guest

    Tell that to Ricky Henderson!

  231. @guest
    @Abe

    My memory of the winningly losery, or loserly winning Bills pretty much begins and ends with the Great Comeback against the Oilers. Remember that? I happened to be watching on tv, maybe ten years old. The stadium emptied halfway through or so, when the Bills were down by like 30 points. Then, when the impossible happened and they had a chance to win, the fans streamed back in. It was surreal.

    I don't even think Jim Kelly was involved. Beebe was.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @MC

    I happened to see the LA Kings hockey team come back from a 5-0 deficit with 15 minutes left against Wayne Gretzky’s Edmonton Oilers in a 1982 playoff match, the Miracle on Manchester. My friend, who was a big Kings fan, left in depression with 16 minutes to go. He heard the roar of the crowd as the Kings finally scored their first goal as he was exiting, thought about returning, but didn’t.

  232. @Reg Cæsar
    @Gunnar von Cowtown


    Damn it, will some one please ask how spoiled black millionaires who play a children’s game feel about “O Canada”?!?
     
    Ferguson Jenkins was arrested upon returning to his native Ontario with a modicum of cocaine. But a Canfield judge let him off.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Ferguson Jenkins was arrested upon returning to his native Ontario with a modicum of cocaine. But a Canfield judge let him off.

    Bloody hell, Apple spellcheck doesn’t recognize “fangirl”? Fergie’s bust long antedated the Chicken Soup series.

    I gotta watch those public iPads, which also insist on turning me into “Ref Cæsar”.

  233. @guest
    @Abe

    My memory of the winningly losery, or loserly winning Bills pretty much begins and ends with the Great Comeback against the Oilers. Remember that? I happened to be watching on tv, maybe ten years old. The stadium emptied halfway through or so, when the Bills were down by like 30 points. Then, when the impossible happened and they had a chance to win, the fans streamed back in. It was surreal.

    I don't even think Jim Kelly was involved. Beebe was.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @MC

    Jim Kelly was injured, so he was replaced by Frank Reich, who interestingly was also the quarterback who orchestrated the greatest second-half comeback in college football history (at the time) when he played at Maryland.

  234. @William BadWhite
    @ben tillman

    "Sure, But Robinson played more than 1500 games before Weaver took over the Orioles. Only 3 of his 22 CS’s were under Weaver’s watch."

    Agh you're correct, I should have known that. When I started following baseball in the early 70's Brooks was nearing the end of the line and Weaver was already there and it seemed like he'd just always been there.

    So stop confusing me with facts!

    Replies: @ben tillman

    Agh you’re correct, I should have known that. When I started following baseball in the early 70′s Brooks was nearing the end of the line and Weaver was already there and it seemed like he’d just always been there.

    Same here. I understand fully.

  235. @Alec Leamas
    @donut

    Cheese on seafood is a big no-no in Italian cuisine.

    Replies: @donut

    Yeah , I’ve heard that too but I don’t believe it’s a hard and fast rule . One of the best seafood dishes I ever had was a version of fisherman’s rice at a restaurant in Messina and it had cheese in it . That was in 1982 so you know it was good if I remember it 34 years later . Anyway , I plan to make this tonight or tomorrow so I’ll let you know . I’ve made a lot of this guys dishes and everyone’s a winner babe .

    Fudge packer alert !!

    During that same time in Messina two of my friends and I went to a restaurant one night . At first we were the only ones in there . We ordered some kind of salad . The waiter brought the salad out right away , meanwhile we had gone up to this little buffet they had set up and got some goodies to eat . By the time we had finished our little bits and pieces our food had come so we never touched the salad . About halfway through our meal another party came in . The waiter took their orders came over to our table asked if we were going to eat the salad and when we said no he picked it up and went right over and put it down on the other table. Why not ? we never touched it but I suspect that here in the USA somebody would have had the vapours .

  236. @Jim Sweeney
    @donut

    BTW, the "spaghetti" in the picture is actually known as linguine as it's obviously flat, not round.

    Replies: @donut

    No , it’s spaghetti you pretentious Olive Garden take out f88k .

    • Replies: @Jim Sweeney
    @donut

    Another foul-mouthed bully hiding behind a name as phony as he is. Why not say who you are? You posts tell us what you are.

    Replies: @donut

  237. @donut
    @Jim Sweeney

    No , it's spaghetti you pretentious Olive Garden take out f88k .

    Replies: @Jim Sweeney

    Another foul-mouthed bully hiding behind a name as phony as he is. Why not say who you are? You posts tell us what you are.

    • Replies: @donut
    @Jim Sweeney

    Stick to Chinese takeout Sweeny .

  238. @Jim Sweeney
    @donut

    Another foul-mouthed bully hiding behind a name as phony as he is. Why not say who you are? You posts tell us what you are.

    Replies: @donut

    Stick to Chinese takeout Sweeny .

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