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The phrase épater les bourgeois (to scandalize or flabbergast the respectable middle class) became a rallying cry among the Parisian avant-garde in the late 19th Century. But these days, some things are too sacred to épater in Paris, such as the verities of Black Lives Matter, and other things are too deplorable to defend, such as white lives.

From the New York Times fashion section:

There Is No Excuse for Ye’s ‘White Lives Matter’ Shirt

Not from Ye. And not from his new YZY collection.

By Vanessa Friedman
Published Oct. 4, 2022

PARIS — Yeezy is dead. Long live YZY. Stage three of the ambitions of Ye — the artist formerly known as Kanye West — to dress the world has begun.

Presumably that was supposed to be the takeaway from the surprise show of Paris Fashion Week, held off-schedule in an empty office tower just down the road from the Arc de Triomphe.

Though it turned out to be only nominally a fashion show and more like “The YZY Experience”: a chaotic mess of self-justification, confessional, bone-picking and messianic ambition, with a “White Lives Matter” shot of shock and provocation that overshadowed the clothes on the runway. …

Except this leader was wearing an oversize shirt with a photo of Pope John Paul II and the words “Seguiremos tu ejemplo” (“We will follow your example”) on the front, and “White Lives Matter” on the back — a phrase that the Anti-Defamation League has called hate speech and attributed to white supremacists (including the Ku Klux Klan), who began using it in 2015 in response to the Black Lives Matter movement. …

As to why he did it, backstage Ye declined to provide any theoretical framework. “It says it all,” he said, of the shirt. But what exactly does it say?

That he truly believes he can appropriate the language of racial violence with irony? That someday the power structure of Black and white will be reversed, and since he says this collection is the future, that’s the world he envisions? That Ye gets a kick out of pushing everyone’s buttons? That he wants to see how far he can go and doesn’t really care about, or think about, the collateral damage in the meantime (including to those children singing at his feet), despite the violence this could feed?

By the way, Kanye’s clothes without messages on them are genius-level ugly.

 
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  1. Friedman huh? What are the odds?

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @fish

    A twit whose two claims to fame are being the first "fashion editor" for the Financial Times and insulting Tulsi Gabbard for wearing an ugly white pants suit three years after praising Cankles for her fashion style when wearing the same suit.

    Another Anna Wintouresque Semitic rodent.

  2. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:

    I’ve noticed that over the past decade or so, the fashion world has become increasingly black dominated and influenced. The fashion industry has been trashy for a long time of course, but until recently there was some pretense made by high fashion houses and outlets for glamour and prestige and they tried to keep some distance from much of pop culture. But now you see Kanye and other low brow black pop culture figures being affiliated with high fashion brands and shows and outlets.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Anonymous

    There's enough money in the black "community" for this to make sense. If the past, you've seen white celebrities with fashion lines to sucker people into buying overpriced clothes; this is just an extension of that.

    , @Altai
    @Anonymous

    I think Virgil Abloh kind of opened the door. Virgil Abloh is kind of famous for being a member of Kanye's entourage who took his dream of being a black hip hop post-modern fashion designer using Kanye's connections to do it. Though Kanye has since caught up and Abloh recently died so no more competition.

    Abloh though is also the world's greatest fashion conman, nobody has ever done less and had bigger markups ever. Basically you get Kanye and his famous friends to wear your 'designs' to create demand and implied value even though these people didn't buy or have any desire for this clothing they're helping their friends pull off a scam.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPYyPqvYV6Q

    Brands like Supreme and the like created 'street wear' as the dominant fashion trend of young rich people (IE, the people whose tastes define 'fashion' from merely the clothes people wear) and that is where things began to cange.

    , @Alden
    @Anonymous

    Kanye West owns a clothing company The article is about his fall show. His clothing isn’t high fashion at all. It’s basically informal pants T shirts jackets and sweatshirts. His 4 kids are half White. Presumably he cares about them and and their mother. Any parent of a mixed child would be against threats against his kids. Because they’re half White

    So ADL considers White lives matter hate speech. Every.Single.Time. ADL, Ms Friedman and most Jews are completely unaware that most blacks; professional, middle lower middle and ghetto trash alike are completely unaware that since 1910 jews led the black movement. And still finance most of it.

    Two of the highest ranking editors of Vogue were black men. The one at American Vogue I forget his name weighed about 400 pounds and wore colorful ankle length robes. Guess the Big and Tall shop didn’t have his gargantuan size.

    Vogue magazine’s favorite models are freakishly tall and scrawny blacks with unusually ugly faces. I suspect they might not be women but men.

    I get all the European high couture shows appearing on my phone and computer. I’m pretty sure some of the black models are not women but men. It’s not just the muscular upper arms but the unconcealed Adam’s apples I’ve noticed I mean, how many women are there in the world who are 20 to 40 years old, 6 ft and more tall and about 30 pounds underweight for their size? . It’s not just my opinion but the opinion of many women who watch those haute couture shows.

    The entire business is run by gay men, not women, even Chanel.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous

    It's not just the fashion industry that's been trashy for a long time. Steve's intro



    The phrase épater les bourgeois (to scandalize or flabbergast the respectable middle class) became a rallying cry among the Parisian avant-garde in the late 19th Century.
     
    points at the issue. Since the late 19th century, our official "culture industry" reacting to industrialism and the rise of modern society has mostly been garbage. All these supposed avant-garde "artists" ... oh look at my transgressive "art". Whiny teenager hissy fits against the man. Yawn.

    Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)

    , @ATBOTL
    @Anonymous

    Those companies are all owned by massive conglomerates and staffed by woke mlnls who do everything by process. Fashion in the sense it existed a long time ago -- by talented and classy white artists -- is dead.

  3. These people are unreal. From the beginning people were answering back the people who said Black Lives Matter and one of the phrases used in response was White Lives Matter. Just because the KKK and other violent fringe groups may have picked it up and used it doesn’t give them ownership of it and doesn’t mean all people who say it or believe it are white supremacists.

    If anybody asks me if White Lives Matter I am sure going to agree. I wouldn’t believe a white person who said they didn’t.

    People are going crazy. All Lives Matter. That’s it.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @notsaying

    No she's right. Kanye really did fuel white supremacist violence. I was feeling a great love towards all humanity yesterday. Indeed, towards all living beings. Then I saw his shirt and I immediately went out and massacred over 9000 black and Jewish children.

    Kanye must be stopped.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @notsaying


    All Lives Matter. That’s it.
     
    That's not quite all of it. White men's lives matter more, as there wouldn't have been the amazing civilization that the world may never see again, were it not for White men.

    We'll see how much they mattered if what's going on keeps going on. You just won't be able to see it on a t-shirt because it's too long and nobody here will have the ability to manufacture t-shirts or the disposable income to buy them.

    That said, I, for one, welcome our new Chinese Overlords.

    Replies: @bomag

    , @AnotherDad
    @notsaying


    All Lives Matter. That’s it.
     
    I'm sort of by nature an "All Lives Matter" easy going kind of guy. Hey, were on all on planet earth here together, if you're pitching in, being productive, making it work ... good for you. (The assholes--string 'em up.)

    But all this "Black Lives Matter" thing has done is convince me of what Achmed's line: "white lives mater more".

    If "Black Lives Matter" so damn much than blacks should get their collective heads out of their collective asses and start fixing their community. That means calling out the misbehaving members of your tribe and holding them to account. Since you not only do not do that, but now are saying my people are the problem for having to pooper scooper your shit? ... Well sorry, screw you, I'm done caring.

    Nope, I care about my family, my people, my civilization surviving and prospering. "White lives matter more".

    ~~

    A few more T-shirt slogans:
    "Civilized lives matter more"
    "Non-criminal lives matter more"

    Replies: @BosTex

    , @Inquiring Mind
    @notsaying

    If I recall, the triggering response was "All lives matter."

    The original "Black lives matter" was a response to members of the African American community dying at the hands of the police. It could be argued that incidents of the police killing a person they encounter happens too often to people of all races, and that maybe people of all races could make common cause that something should be done in the way of improved police training, vetting of police recruits and revised police department rules that there would be fewer killings.

    I can see that "White lives matter" could be viewed as racist snark, but "All lives matter" was quickly condemned by the line of reasoning professed by a recently appointed member of the US Supreme Court.

    This may be unfair, but I am certainly not placing an "All lives matter" yard sign on my front lawn here in a of the City of Randolph, State of Morally Superior. Even if it doesn't lead to my house be paint-bombed, it would certainly estrange me from my neighbors. If I put up a "White lives matter" sign, I think I would be arrested -- certainly, there would be a warrant issued to the Randolph PD to search my closet for a Hawaiian shirt.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Nicholas Stix

  4. Kanye West is the literal Black White Supremacist Dave Chappelle predicted!

    From Oz: https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/fashion/with-a-t-shirt-ye-has-outraged-the-fashion-industry-and-activists-20221005-p5bnds.html

    It takes a lot to offend people in fashion, where rats have roamed the runway and John Galliano once called a Dior collection Haute Homeless, but Ye succeeded with an off-schedule show at Paris Fashion Week, featuring T-shirts with images of Pope John Paul II on the front and the hate speech slogan “White Lives Matter” on the back.

    The John Galliano shoutback was referring to this from some time ago: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361071/John-Galliano-called-Jewish-whore-ugly-eyebrows-says-art-historian.html

    Ye was wearing a shirt with the inflammatory White Lives Matter slogan, which has been used by the Ku Klux Klan.

    Ye is the infamous Black White Supremacist, the one and only Clayton Bigsby!

    A series of defensive posts from Ye, who was diagnosed with bipolar disorder after being hospitalised for a psychiatric emergency in 2016, followed.

    There’s not a whole lot of “Are u ok?” in that belling the cat with Kanye’s mental health issues. So much for that infamous tender loving, special care, time and consideration of those oppressed by The Man the Left are so famous for. Kanye is sprayed as a psychopathic mental case.

    The thing that amazed me most was that the shitlib morning herald’s readers were almost 95% angered by the slur that “White Lives Matter” is hate speech.

    Who could have predicted that the art community of all people!, would have the balls to represent White people, while the rest of the public, book publishers, blog posters and online commentariat went scurrying to their holes in the wall?

    Brilliant marketing by Kanye: $10 shirt with basic slogan, name reverberates throughout the world.

    I also note he’s very short by Yank standards. Five foot what?

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    @Pat Hannagan


    "There’s not a whole lot of 'Are u ok?' in that belling the cat with Kanye’s mental health issues. So much for that infamous tender loving, special care, time and consideration of those oppressed by The Man the Left are so famous for. Kanye is sprayed as a psychopathic mental case."
     
    In 1983, a relatively brief essay collection by Frankfurt School guru, Jürgen Habermas, came out in paperback, Moralbewusstsein und kommunikatives Handeln (Moral Consciousness and Communicative Action), in which Habermas asserted, among other things, that anyone opposing his collectivism would descend into paranoid schizophrenia, and ultimately commit suicide.
  5. Black Lives Matter

    White lives matter

    Muslim lives matter

    LGBTQ lives matter

    Jewish lives matter

    One of these is morally wrong to say in 2022. I think the ADL might have a problem here. Too much noticing going on.

    • Replies: @Inverness
    @Emperor Claudius superfan


    “White Lives Matter” — a phrase that the Anti-Defamation League has called hate speech
     
    That was all I needed to know. Because no one has cornered the market on hate like the ADL has. Why, they're absolute experts.

    Replies: @Moses

  6. New shirt logo:

    Is it acceptable to not be Black?

    • Replies: @repsinec
    @Mike Tre

    Be careful! The UK police opened an investigation into posters that said "It's OK to be White", treating it as a "hate incident". This tells me two things: 1) It is hateful to be OK with being White, and 2) hating someone has now become a criminal offence in the UK.
    As one wag put it, Nous vivons une époque formidable!

    , @Dvnjbbgc
    @Mike Tre

    It’s acceptable to be white.

  7. Steve is to be comended for being willing to even read the NYT Fashion Section in search of content. That is above and beyond the call of normal duty.

    • Agree: JR Ewing
  8. @Emperor Claudius superfan
    Black Lives Matter

    White lives matter

    Muslim lives matter

    LGBTQ lives matter

    Jewish lives matter

    One of these is morally wrong to say in 2022. I think the ADL might have a problem here. Too much noticing going on.

    Replies: @Inverness

    “White Lives Matter” — a phrase that the Anti-Defamation League has called hate speech

    That was all I needed to know. Because no one has cornered the market on hate like the ADL has. Why, they’re absolute experts.

    • Thanks: Bubba
    • Replies: @Moses
    @Inverness

    ADL’s hate burns red hot for White people. They really, really hate Whites.

  9. @notsaying
    These people are unreal. From the beginning people were answering back the people who said Black Lives Matter and one of the phrases used in response was White Lives Matter. Just because the KKK and other violent fringe groups may have picked it up and used it doesn't give them ownership of it and doesn't mean all people who say it or believe it are white supremacists.

    If anybody asks me if White Lives Matter I am sure going to agree. I wouldn't believe a white person who said they didn't.

    People are going crazy. All Lives Matter. That's it.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Achmed E. Newman, @AnotherDad, @Inquiring Mind

    No she’s right. Kanye really did fuel white supremacist violence. I was feeling a great love towards all humanity yesterday. Indeed, towards all living beings. Then I saw his shirt and I immediately went out and massacred over 9000 black and Jewish children.

    Kanye must be stopped.

    • LOL: bomag
    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @AndrewR

    But by not committing violence against Latinx’s, you are akshually committing violence against Latinx’s.

    Stop the hate against Latinx’s by bashing one’s brains in.

  10. Kanye is a real artist. Like most pop music geniuses his stuff sold less as it got more original and revolutionary.

    He shows talent as a visual artist. These are good for a high schooler: https://www.numero.com/en/art/kanye-west-portfolio-american-tv-antiques-roadshow-drawings

  11. @notsaying
    These people are unreal. From the beginning people were answering back the people who said Black Lives Matter and one of the phrases used in response was White Lives Matter. Just because the KKK and other violent fringe groups may have picked it up and used it doesn't give them ownership of it and doesn't mean all people who say it or believe it are white supremacists.

    If anybody asks me if White Lives Matter I am sure going to agree. I wouldn't believe a white person who said they didn't.

    People are going crazy. All Lives Matter. That's it.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Achmed E. Newman, @AnotherDad, @Inquiring Mind

    All Lives Matter. That’s it.

    That’s not quite all of it. White men’s lives matter more, as there wouldn’t have been the amazing civilization that the world may never see again, were it not for White men.

    We’ll see how much they mattered if what’s going on keeps going on. You just won’t be able to see it on a t-shirt because it’s too long and nobody here will have the ability to manufacture t-shirts or the disposable income to buy them.

    That said, I, for one, welcome our new Chinese Overlords.

    • Agree: The Anti-Gnostic
    • Replies: @bomag
    @Achmed E. Newman

    What you say is true, but it highlights the Joseph Sobran point that humiliation and envy are powerful motivators that overwhelm the desire to keep the lights on.

    Tis' better to rule in the ghetto than live in a nice place and be constantly reminded that you can't build any of it.

  12. It was pretty funny. I’m not sure if he thinks he is going to make money selling to MAGA people and get attention annoying the liberal elite, thinks he can cure America’s racial problems all by himself (he’s always been extremely sure of himself), or some weird idea only Kanye understands.

  13. It’s pretty clear that a five foot 2 something and half negro has way more pull than a 6 foot 3 geriatric yank mick whose been syphoning off half the world for several years holding them to account with a loaded nuclear account to their temples.

    It’s absurd we dance about what’s happening in Ukraine as if it won’t happen to us, this winter Germany is chosen, next winter which country will the spinning bottle point?

    I really feel for the Germans, of all people I most identify with them, great people who are constantly bullied by jew usa, they’re constantly demanded to empty their pockets and have their faces punched in.

    • Replies: @Larry, San Francisco
    @Pat Hannagan

    The Germans brought their suffering on themselves by their own stupidity and self righteousness. Closing their nuclear plants and making themselves stupidly reliant on Russia were own goals. Bringing in all those refugees same. Following policies that impoverished Southern Europe while causing the Euro to be under giving them a huge export advantage was umm, selfish

  14. @Anonymous
    I've noticed that over the past decade or so, the fashion world has become increasingly black dominated and influenced. The fashion industry has been trashy for a long time of course, but until recently there was some pretense made by high fashion houses and outlets for glamour and prestige and they tried to keep some distance from much of pop culture. But now you see Kanye and other low brow black pop culture figures being affiliated with high fashion brands and shows and outlets.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Altai, @Alden, @AnotherDad, @ATBOTL

    There’s enough money in the black “community” for this to make sense. If the past, you’ve seen white celebrities with fashion lines to sucker people into buying overpriced clothes; this is just an extension of that.

  15. By Vanessa Friedman

    Mistaking things for being the consequence of insufficient aggression rather than too much have consequences of their own.

  16. @Anonymous
    I've noticed that over the past decade or so, the fashion world has become increasingly black dominated and influenced. The fashion industry has been trashy for a long time of course, but until recently there was some pretense made by high fashion houses and outlets for glamour and prestige and they tried to keep some distance from much of pop culture. But now you see Kanye and other low brow black pop culture figures being affiliated with high fashion brands and shows and outlets.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Altai, @Alden, @AnotherDad, @ATBOTL

    I think Virgil Abloh kind of opened the door. Virgil Abloh is kind of famous for being a member of Kanye’s entourage who took his dream of being a black hip hop post-modern fashion designer using Kanye’s connections to do it. Though Kanye has since caught up and Abloh recently died so no more competition.

    Abloh though is also the world’s greatest fashion conman, nobody has ever done less and had bigger markups ever. Basically you get Kanye and his famous friends to wear your ‘designs’ to create demand and implied value even though these people didn’t buy or have any desire for this clothing they’re helping their friends pull off a scam.

    Brands like Supreme and the like created ‘street wear’ as the dominant fashion trend of young rich people (IE, the people whose tastes define ‘fashion’ from merely the clothes people wear) and that is where things began to cange.

  17. Ms. Friedman: une tres fou Juive
    Too barren of sense to conceive
    That the Blacks of today
    Do not fear KKK:
    It’s a bogeyman they don’t believe.

    • Thanks: Thea, Alden
    • Replies: @tomv
    @Eustace Tilley (not)

    fou ==> folle

    Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)

  18. Altai writes, “Mistaking things for being the consequence of insufficient aggression rather than too much [aggression] have consequences of their own.”

    Huh? The plural verb-phrase “have consequences of their own” must have a plural subject. Where is it? And what plural noun does the plural pronoun “their” refer to? Can an A.I. program extract a meaning from this sentence? Skynet may get angry trying to parse this sentence.

  19. Much kudos to whoever invented the ‘White Lives Matter’ slogan.

    It’s unanswerable, all B’nai Brith and suchlike can do is squeel.

  20. The slogan “white lives don’t matter” better sums up how they honestly feel and might wake some people up. It hits hard like a punch to the gut and the left would have hard time arguing about it given what they have already said about “white lives matter .”

  21. Not a fan of his music, but he raised himself greatly in my eyes by naming his kid “North.” Anybody with that sense of humor is OK in my book.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Cool Daddy Jimbo


    Not a fan of his music, but he raised himself greatly in my eyes by naming his kid “North.” Anybody with that sense of humor is OK in my book.
     
    Agree, but he was also dumb enough to marry that whore Kim Kardashian. IIRC, he said he trusted her so he didn't insist on a pre-nup.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

  22. @fish
    Friedman huh? What are the odds?

    Replies: @Brutusale

    A twit whose two claims to fame are being the first “fashion editor” for the Financial Times and insulting Tulsi Gabbard for wearing an ugly white pants suit three years after praising Cankles for her fashion style when wearing the same suit.

    Another Anna Wintouresque Semitic rodent.

    • Agree: fish
  23. Art imitates life:

    Homeless Vagrant Wins Fashion Award After Stumbling Onto Stage At Paris Fashion Week
    LIFESTYLE

    ·
    Oct 4, 2022 · BabylonBee.com

    source: https://babylonbee.com/news/homeless-vagrant-wins-fashion-award-after-stumbling-onto-the-stage-at-paris-fashion-week

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  24. Kanye is clearly bipolar and it’s hard to tell how much of his output is the product of considered thought. However, I appreciate his latest stunt because the more people are willing to put this message out there and provoke the attendant freak out, the more people will ask themselves why this is a controversial statement.

    The latest polling on Latino voter preferences shows a massive swing to the GOP over the years and while it’s too early to assume it’s a full on permanent sea change, some portion of these voters are never going back to the Democrats and are more culturally aligned with the right. This includes finding the left’s coddling of black sensibilities ridiculous and do not share white guilt about not fighting this too hard. Regardless of whether SCOTUS narrows affirmative action, the 2024 GOP nominee should openly promise to ban it at the federal level. The party is awfully stupid on most things but hopefully has the brains to see that there is zero political downside to this because a) most Americans and people who are inclined to vote for them favor its elimination, and b) the Dems are going to call them racists all day long no matter what politics they adopt.

    • Agree: AndrewR
    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @Arclight

    Lots of Hispanic guys are losing work with the construction industry shrinking.

    Talked to a tile guy yesterday. He's laid off his two guys because the phone has all but stopped ringing for him.

    There used to be lots of well-paid work and now the Democrats get to own unemployment for this election.

    , @Thea
    @Arclight

    Be careful what you wish for. They will change the platform as the GOP becomes dependent on their votes.

    That is how the dens become woke and abandoned worker issues.

  25. My spouse and I were googling last night to find out where we could buy those t-shirts

    Kanye is awesome

  26. @Pat Hannagan
    It's pretty clear that a five foot 2 something and half negro has way more pull than a 6 foot 3 geriatric yank mick whose been syphoning off half the world for several years holding them to account with a loaded nuclear account to their temples.

    It's absurd we dance about what's happening in Ukraine as if it won't happen to us, this winter Germany is chosen, next winter which country will the spinning bottle point?

    I really feel for the Germans, of all people I most identify with them, great people who are constantly bullied by jew usa, they're constantly demanded to empty their pockets and have their faces punched in.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SmZyLy42Yw

    Replies: @Larry, San Francisco

    The Germans brought their suffering on themselves by their own stupidity and self righteousness. Closing their nuclear plants and making themselves stupidly reliant on Russia were own goals. Bringing in all those refugees same. Following policies that impoverished Southern Europe while causing the Euro to be under giving them a huge export advantage was umm, selfish

  27. Kanye West is the only contemporary celebrity/artist who reminds me of the “shock for shock’s sake” values of 70s and 80s punk rock. He’s gotten the Establishment all riled up, similar to what Sex Pistols, Dead Kennedys and others were able to achieve back in the day. Modern so-called punk is conformist, doctrinaire and boring, as is every other supposed outlet for youth culture. Not Kanye.

    The current Establishment has perfected the art of pretending like it’s still the rebellious outsiders. This explains the constant prestige media focus on past enemies, now long dead (e.g., Confederate statues, the killers of Emmett Till) — it allows the Establishment to duck being understood as such.

    Kanye pokes them in the eye. His efforts are a bit random, but he’s the only one doing it. Kudos.

  28. @Achmed E. Newman
    @notsaying


    All Lives Matter. That’s it.
     
    That's not quite all of it. White men's lives matter more, as there wouldn't have been the amazing civilization that the world may never see again, were it not for White men.

    We'll see how much they mattered if what's going on keeps going on. You just won't be able to see it on a t-shirt because it's too long and nobody here will have the ability to manufacture t-shirts or the disposable income to buy them.

    That said, I, for one, welcome our new Chinese Overlords.

    Replies: @bomag

    What you say is true, but it highlights the Joseph Sobran point that humiliation and envy are powerful motivators that overwhelm the desire to keep the lights on.

    Tis’ better to rule in the ghetto than live in a nice place and be constantly reminded that you can’t build any of it.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  29. stillCARealist [AKA "ForeverCARealist"] says:
    @Arclight
    Kanye is clearly bipolar and it's hard to tell how much of his output is the product of considered thought. However, I appreciate his latest stunt because the more people are willing to put this message out there and provoke the attendant freak out, the more people will ask themselves why this is a controversial statement.

    The latest polling on Latino voter preferences shows a massive swing to the GOP over the years and while it's too early to assume it's a full on permanent sea change, some portion of these voters are never going back to the Democrats and are more culturally aligned with the right. This includes finding the left's coddling of black sensibilities ridiculous and do not share white guilt about not fighting this too hard. Regardless of whether SCOTUS narrows affirmative action, the 2024 GOP nominee should openly promise to ban it at the federal level. The party is awfully stupid on most things but hopefully has the brains to see that there is zero political downside to this because a) most Americans and people who are inclined to vote for them favor its elimination, and b) the Dems are going to call them racists all day long no matter what politics they adopt.

    Replies: @stillCARealist, @Thea

    Lots of Hispanic guys are losing work with the construction industry shrinking.

    Talked to a tile guy yesterday. He’s laid off his two guys because the phone has all but stopped ringing for him.

    There used to be lots of well-paid work and now the Democrats get to own unemployment for this election.

  30. @Mike Tre
    New shirt logo:

    Is it acceptable to not be Black?

    Replies: @repsinec, @Dvnjbbgc

    Be careful! The UK police opened an investigation into posters that said “It’s OK to be White”, treating it as a “hate incident”. This tells me two things: 1) It is hateful to be OK with being White, and 2) hating someone has now become a criminal offence in the UK.
    As one wag put it, Nous vivons une époque formidable!

  31. @Anonymous
    I've noticed that over the past decade or so, the fashion world has become increasingly black dominated and influenced. The fashion industry has been trashy for a long time of course, but until recently there was some pretense made by high fashion houses and outlets for glamour and prestige and they tried to keep some distance from much of pop culture. But now you see Kanye and other low brow black pop culture figures being affiliated with high fashion brands and shows and outlets.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Altai, @Alden, @AnotherDad, @ATBOTL

    Kanye West owns a clothing company The article is about his fall show. His clothing isn’t high fashion at all. It’s basically informal pants T shirts jackets and sweatshirts. His 4 kids are half White. Presumably he cares about them and and their mother. Any parent of a mixed child would be against threats against his kids. Because they’re half White

    So ADL considers White lives matter hate speech. Every.Single.Time. ADL, Ms Friedman and most Jews are completely unaware that most blacks; professional, middle lower middle and ghetto trash alike are completely unaware that since 1910 jews led the black movement. And still finance most of it.

    Two of the highest ranking editors of Vogue were black men. The one at American Vogue I forget his name weighed about 400 pounds and wore colorful ankle length robes. Guess the Big and Tall shop didn’t have his gargantuan size.

    Vogue magazine’s favorite models are freakishly tall and scrawny blacks with unusually ugly faces. I suspect they might not be women but men.

    I get all the European high couture shows appearing on my phone and computer. I’m pretty sure some of the black models are not women but men. It’s not just the muscular upper arms but the unconcealed Adam’s apples I’ve noticed I mean, how many women are there in the world who are 20 to 40 years old, 6 ft and more tall and about 30 pounds underweight for their size? . It’s not just my opinion but the opinion of many women who watch those haute couture shows.

    The entire business is run by gay men, not women, even Chanel.

  32. @notsaying
    These people are unreal. From the beginning people were answering back the people who said Black Lives Matter and one of the phrases used in response was White Lives Matter. Just because the KKK and other violent fringe groups may have picked it up and used it doesn't give them ownership of it and doesn't mean all people who say it or believe it are white supremacists.

    If anybody asks me if White Lives Matter I am sure going to agree. I wouldn't believe a white person who said they didn't.

    People are going crazy. All Lives Matter. That's it.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Achmed E. Newman, @AnotherDad, @Inquiring Mind

    All Lives Matter. That’s it.

    I’m sort of by nature an “All Lives Matter” easy going kind of guy. Hey, were on all on planet earth here together, if you’re pitching in, being productive, making it work … good for you. (The assholes–string ’em up.)

    But all this “Black Lives Matter” thing has done is convince me of what Achmed’s line: “white lives mater more”.

    If “Black Lives Matter” so damn much than blacks should get their collective heads out of their collective asses and start fixing their community. That means calling out the misbehaving members of your tribe and holding them to account. Since you not only do not do that, but now are saying my people are the problem for having to pooper scooper your shit? … Well sorry, screw you, I’m done caring.

    Nope, I care about my family, my people, my civilization surviving and prospering. “White lives matter more”.

    ~~

    A few more T-shirt slogans:
    “Civilized lives matter more”
    “Non-criminal lives matter more”

    • Agree: BosTex
    • Replies: @BosTex
    @AnotherDad

    Until Blacks behave like Black Lives Matter, their lives don’t really matter and the slogan is just laughable twaddle.

    If you have 50 shootings in your “community”over a long weekend: I think you are messaging that your lives don’t matter.

    If little kids in your “community” are being killed by stray gunshots and you aren’t killing the bastards who did it: your lives don’t matter.

  33. @notsaying
    These people are unreal. From the beginning people were answering back the people who said Black Lives Matter and one of the phrases used in response was White Lives Matter. Just because the KKK and other violent fringe groups may have picked it up and used it doesn't give them ownership of it and doesn't mean all people who say it or believe it are white supremacists.

    If anybody asks me if White Lives Matter I am sure going to agree. I wouldn't believe a white person who said they didn't.

    People are going crazy. All Lives Matter. That's it.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Achmed E. Newman, @AnotherDad, @Inquiring Mind

    If I recall, the triggering response was “All lives matter.”

    The original “Black lives matter” was a response to members of the African American community dying at the hands of the police. It could be argued that incidents of the police killing a person they encounter happens too often to people of all races, and that maybe people of all races could make common cause that something should be done in the way of improved police training, vetting of police recruits and revised police department rules that there would be fewer killings.

    I can see that “White lives matter” could be viewed as racist snark, but “All lives matter” was quickly condemned by the line of reasoning professed by a recently appointed member of the US Supreme Court.

    This may be unfair, but I am certainly not placing an “All lives matter” yard sign on my front lawn here in a of the City of Randolph, State of Morally Superior. Even if it doesn’t lead to my house be paint-bombed, it would certainly estrange me from my neighbors. If I put up a “White lives matter” sign, I think I would be arrested — certainly, there would be a warrant issued to the Randolph PD to search my closet for a Hawaiian shirt.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Inquiring Mind


    If I recall, the triggering response was “All lives matter.”
     
    I remember seeing a video from the Summer of George (SOG) of one of those road blocks set up during a BLM demo where they blocked the road and harangued the people in their cars. There was a chipper young white girl protester - probably thought of herself as an "ally" - who was manically repeating "Black Lives Matter" in response to whatever was said to her. She sounded like a robot. Which - come to think of it - is what she essentially was.
    , @Nicholas Stix
    @Inquiring Mind


    “The original ‘black lives matter’ was a response to members of the african american community dying at the hands of the police.”
     
    No, it wasn’t. It wasn’t a “response” to anything. However, their cover story, back in 2013, was that their slogan was a “response” to George Zimmerman, who was not a policeman, even though he did the job, unpaid, of a policeman, “murdering” Trayvon Martin in 2012.

    Trayvon Martin was a failed, aspiring murderer; George Zimmerman was the liberal, multiracial (White, mestizo, and black), neighborhood watch leader who canceled Martin’s license to kill.

    Like the lawfare campaign against George Zimmerman, the birth of blm was due to a big misunderstanding. The cop at the scene of Zimmerman’s refusal-to-die incident who wrote up the police report, mistakenly described Zimmerman as “White.” When Martin’s father, Tracy Martin, saw that Zimmerman was “White,” he got dollar signs in his eyes, and called his sister-in-law, the “civil rights” lawyer. A racial socialist, White PR guy then also jumped on the bandwagon.

    That b.s. about “members of the african american community dying at the hands of the police” may have been a later cover story.
  34. @AndrewR
    @notsaying

    No she's right. Kanye really did fuel white supremacist violence. I was feeling a great love towards all humanity yesterday. Indeed, towards all living beings. Then I saw his shirt and I immediately went out and massacred over 9000 black and Jewish children.

    Kanye must be stopped.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    But by not committing violence against Latinx’s, you are akshually committing violence against Latinx’s.

    Stop the hate against Latinx’s by bashing one’s brains in.

  35. @Anonymous
    I've noticed that over the past decade or so, the fashion world has become increasingly black dominated and influenced. The fashion industry has been trashy for a long time of course, but until recently there was some pretense made by high fashion houses and outlets for glamour and prestige and they tried to keep some distance from much of pop culture. But now you see Kanye and other low brow black pop culture figures being affiliated with high fashion brands and shows and outlets.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Altai, @Alden, @AnotherDad, @ATBOTL

    It’s not just the fashion industry that’s been trashy for a long time. Steve’s intro

    The phrase épater les bourgeois (to scandalize or flabbergast the respectable middle class) became a rallying cry among the Parisian avant-garde in the late 19th Century.

    points at the issue. Since the late 19th century, our official “culture industry” reacting to industrialism and the rise of modern society has mostly been garbage. All these supposed avant-garde “artists” … oh look at my transgressive “art”. Whiny teenager hissy fits against the man. Yawn.

    • Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)
    @AnotherDad

    "Entrez galerie Cohn-Bendit!
    Ou nous epatons bien bourgeoisie!
    Aujourd'hui, observez
    'Plein de Merde Chevrolet'
    Dans l'artiste a dit 'oui' au chienlit."

  36. That crazy-ass bat-suit-half-a-pantomime-horse costume of Wests’ is no worse than what’s on the pages of GQ nowadays.

  37. This latest fiasco of Kanye,
    Not merely transgressive or zany;
    It’s mad as a hatter
    To say “White lives matter.”
    He sure is a maniac, ain’t he?

    If Lord Byron could rhyme Cheops and hopes, I can rhyme Kanye and zany.

    • LOL: Charlotte
  38. I’m delighted to read that the ADL has declared “White Lives Matter” to be hate speech, because I occasionally soften in my view that the ADL is an odious collection of self-interested fear mongers and start wondering if I’m a crypto-antisemite.

    • Replies: @Whereismyhandle
    @Tono-Bungay

    If you're not an anti-semite, you're not paying attention.

    Steve, of course, wages his own War on Noticing on this topic.

    They may be annoyed by anti-white statements but nothing, and I mean nothing, enrages the boomers Sailer/Cochran/Derbyshire/Taylor like identifying those responsible. Curious.

  39. “That someday the power structure of Black and white will be reversed”

    Speaking of irony.

  40. What is the definition of a terrorist? Someone or some group whose actions create a feeling of terror in their intended target, yes?

    There’s no reason to limit the definition of terrorist to those who use physical violence and physical destruction to create terror. When people are terrified that they may lose their job, their friends, and even their freedom if they say or write something that has been declared forbidden (even though it is true or arguably true), aren’t the people enforcing the prohibition terrorists?

    • Replies: @Technite78
    @Technite78

    In other words: the ADL is, for all intents and purposes, a terrorist organization and should be treated as such.

  41. By Vanessa Friedman

    I was wondering how “Jewish Lives Matter” would go down. Perhaps “Palestinian Lives Matter” would shut everyone up about all this? I.e., bury the whole meme of “[insert name of Oh-so-Precious here] Lives Matter”.

    (I have a mixed position on this. Palestinian lives matter if they’re Christian. Otherwise…)

  42. @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous

    It's not just the fashion industry that's been trashy for a long time. Steve's intro



    The phrase épater les bourgeois (to scandalize or flabbergast the respectable middle class) became a rallying cry among the Parisian avant-garde in the late 19th Century.
     
    points at the issue. Since the late 19th century, our official "culture industry" reacting to industrialism and the rise of modern society has mostly been garbage. All these supposed avant-garde "artists" ... oh look at my transgressive "art". Whiny teenager hissy fits against the man. Yawn.

    Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)

    “Entrez galerie Cohn-Bendit!
    Ou nous epatons bien bourgeoisie!
    Aujourd’hui, observez
    ‘Plein de Merde Chevrolet’
    Dans l’artiste a dit ‘oui’ au chienlit.”

  43. Actually, this phrase is mostly geared towards the haut-bourgeoise. There are two different bourgeoise classes, the pétit bourgeoise and the haut-bourgeoise. The pétit bourgeoise are those people that came from the working classesd but managed to rise to the middle classes by accumulating some patrimony, and getting their childen enough education that they can afford to not having to rely on being blue-collar workers for a livving. They are the lower middle class.

    The haut-bourgeoise is the liberal upper-middle class that has been dominating the West for the past 600 years and especially since the French Revolution. Their ideals are socialistic, and they came to power exactly on the platform of disenfranchising the old blood aristocracy and creating a more equal society with opportunity for all.

    But things didn’t turn out that well since the French Revolution and the Industrial Revolution that followed. The liberal upper and upper middle-classes became immensely wealthy and powerul with capitalism, which is not surprising since they are the genetic descendents of merchants and clerks, while the dream of “liberté, égalité, fraternité”, which is the motto of Western Liberalism, went down the drain as the haut-bourgeoise realized that personal freedom is completely incompatible with an equal society.

    The liberal upper and upper-middle classes realize their hypocrisy, the fact that they preach equality as their supreme virtue, but at the same time enjoy a standard of living 10 X higer than the proletarian, conservative classes they claim to enfranchise.

    Hence, the chant “Épater la bourgeoise!” came to be in the late 19th century as a way to point out to the liberal bourgeoise classes their hypocrisy and failure, that after more than 100 years of the French Revolution, they became the same elitists that they claimed to disposses!! Shocking the haut-bourgeoise with disgusting displays is a way of doing that. Basically, the liberal upper bourgeoise clases came to power on the platform of creating a more equal society without aristocratic privileges, but they essentially became the new aristocracy. The same is true in America as it is in Europe. There is the classic expression that conveys this phenomena:

    “Limousine liberals””

    The biggest tragedy of liberalism is that the supreme value of liberalism is anti-elitism, and yet liberals, who compose the bulk of the professional, academic and business classes, became the same elitists that they claimed to combat. Something along the lines of:

    ^You become what you hate the most.”

    This cognitive dissonance is at the heart of the mental illnesses of modern liberals, that they proclaim to be in favor of equality, while enjoying eealth and privilege.

    Liberals feel guilty over this, which is they they barely put up a fight when revolutions come to depose them. During the Bolshevik Revolution, for instance, the bourgeoise in St.Petersburg barely put up any resistence. Once upon a time, liberals would find for their ideals, but many are mentally broken at this point. In the past, when conservatives managed, at great duress, to overrule some liberal law or ruling, liberals would fight them and since they control the state, they would often push it back. But now they are giving up mentally. For instance, the recent overruling of abortion rights by the two Supreme Court Justices nominated by Trump would, in times past, led to a vicious legal, mediatic and academic pushback to have it overruled. Now, many liberals responded to it by simpling moving out of the country or even rennouncing their American citizenship.

  44. the collateral damage in the meantime (including to those children singing at his feet), despite the violence this could feed?

    Of course the good Ms. Friedman would not or cannot explain her reasoning for this absurdity.

    Are tee shirts now committing violence like firearms (“gun violence”)? Is “tee shirt violence” a major cause of death and injuries?

    Tee shirts feed violence, she maintains. The Gap has a lot of ‘splaining to do about this menace.

    So is it only anti Woke ones or do BLM tees do likewise?

    Those poor “children singing at his feet” are going to go out and do what, exactly? I thought Ye was doing the singing (or rapping or hip hopping) and not “the children.”

    Really. Is there some form of Woke Cocaine these NYT writers huff before churning this mess out?

    I must say Ye has really done us a service with this. The level of laughable irony is on par with sending “migrants” to Martha’s Vineyard.

    The guy admits he can’t or doesn’t read, but he comes up with this.

    If only the Academy Awards would let him host, just once…

  45. @Technite78
    What is the definition of a terrorist? Someone or some group whose actions create a feeling of terror in their intended target, yes?

    There's no reason to limit the definition of terrorist to those who use physical violence and physical destruction to create terror. When people are terrified that they may lose their job, their friends, and even their freedom if they say or write something that has been declared forbidden (even though it is true or arguably true), aren't the people enforcing the prohibition terrorists?

    Replies: @Technite78

    In other words: the ADL is, for all intents and purposes, a terrorist organization and should be treated as such.

  46. @Cool Daddy Jimbo
    Not a fan of his music, but he raised himself greatly in my eyes by naming his kid "North." Anybody with that sense of humor is OK in my book.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Not a fan of his music, but he raised himself greatly in my eyes by naming his kid “North.” Anybody with that sense of humor is OK in my book.

    Agree, but he was also dumb enough to marry that whore Kim Kardashian. IIRC, he said he trusted her so he didn’t insist on a pre-nup.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    @Jim Don Bob

    From what I've heard, she's now a lot richer than he is, though I'm at a loss as to how she made her money.

  47. Here is Ye at the 2019 Met Gala wearing a $40 Dickies Eisenhower jacket and matching pants, just like my mechanic:

    The guy certainly knows how to go against the grain.

  48. @Tono-Bungay
    I'm delighted to read that the ADL has declared "White Lives Matter" to be hate speech, because I occasionally soften in my view that the ADL is an odious collection of self-interested fear mongers and start wondering if I'm a crypto-antisemite.

    Replies: @Whereismyhandle

    If you’re not an anti-semite, you’re not paying attention.

    Steve, of course, wages his own War on Noticing on this topic.

    They may be annoyed by anti-white statements but nothing, and I mean nothing, enrages the boomers Sailer/Cochran/Derbyshire/Taylor like identifying those responsible. Curious.

  49. @AnotherDad
    @notsaying


    All Lives Matter. That’s it.
     
    I'm sort of by nature an "All Lives Matter" easy going kind of guy. Hey, were on all on planet earth here together, if you're pitching in, being productive, making it work ... good for you. (The assholes--string 'em up.)

    But all this "Black Lives Matter" thing has done is convince me of what Achmed's line: "white lives mater more".

    If "Black Lives Matter" so damn much than blacks should get their collective heads out of their collective asses and start fixing their community. That means calling out the misbehaving members of your tribe and holding them to account. Since you not only do not do that, but now are saying my people are the problem for having to pooper scooper your shit? ... Well sorry, screw you, I'm done caring.

    Nope, I care about my family, my people, my civilization surviving and prospering. "White lives matter more".

    ~~

    A few more T-shirt slogans:
    "Civilized lives matter more"
    "Non-criminal lives matter more"

    Replies: @BosTex

    Until Blacks behave like Black Lives Matter, their lives don’t really matter and the slogan is just laughable twaddle.

    If you have 50 shootings in your “community”over a long weekend: I think you are messaging that your lives don’t matter.

    If little kids in your “community” are being killed by stray gunshots and you aren’t killing the bastards who did it: your lives don’t matter.

  50. @Arclight
    Kanye is clearly bipolar and it's hard to tell how much of his output is the product of considered thought. However, I appreciate his latest stunt because the more people are willing to put this message out there and provoke the attendant freak out, the more people will ask themselves why this is a controversial statement.

    The latest polling on Latino voter preferences shows a massive swing to the GOP over the years and while it's too early to assume it's a full on permanent sea change, some portion of these voters are never going back to the Democrats and are more culturally aligned with the right. This includes finding the left's coddling of black sensibilities ridiculous and do not share white guilt about not fighting this too hard. Regardless of whether SCOTUS narrows affirmative action, the 2024 GOP nominee should openly promise to ban it at the federal level. The party is awfully stupid on most things but hopefully has the brains to see that there is zero political downside to this because a) most Americans and people who are inclined to vote for them favor its elimination, and b) the Dems are going to call them racists all day long no matter what politics they adopt.

    Replies: @stillCARealist, @Thea

    Be careful what you wish for. They will change the platform as the GOP becomes dependent on their votes.

    That is how the dens become woke and abandoned worker issues.

    • Agree: Dvnjbbgc
  51. I like that black getup. Reminds me of Milla Jonovich as Joan of Arc.

  52. Let’s not forget that Trey Parker and Matt stone wrote a song about Kanye called “Gay Fish” because he fit the mold for a humorless guy who didn’t get the punchline of the following joke:

    Q: Do you like fishdicks?

    A: Then you must be a gay fish.

    I’d be flattered if those two wrote a song about me. Those guys are righteous musicians.

  53. @Inquiring Mind
    @notsaying

    If I recall, the triggering response was "All lives matter."

    The original "Black lives matter" was a response to members of the African American community dying at the hands of the police. It could be argued that incidents of the police killing a person they encounter happens too often to people of all races, and that maybe people of all races could make common cause that something should be done in the way of improved police training, vetting of police recruits and revised police department rules that there would be fewer killings.

    I can see that "White lives matter" could be viewed as racist snark, but "All lives matter" was quickly condemned by the line of reasoning professed by a recently appointed member of the US Supreme Court.

    This may be unfair, but I am certainly not placing an "All lives matter" yard sign on my front lawn here in a of the City of Randolph, State of Morally Superior. Even if it doesn't lead to my house be paint-bombed, it would certainly estrange me from my neighbors. If I put up a "White lives matter" sign, I think I would be arrested -- certainly, there would be a warrant issued to the Randolph PD to search my closet for a Hawaiian shirt.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Nicholas Stix

    If I recall, the triggering response was “All lives matter.”

    I remember seeing a video from the Summer of George (SOG) of one of those road blocks set up during a BLM demo where they blocked the road and harangued the people in their cars. There was a chipper young white girl protester – probably thought of herself as an “ally” – who was manically repeating “Black Lives Matter” in response to whatever was said to her. She sounded like a robot. Which – come to think of it – is what she essentially was.

  54. Notwithstanding that there are no black people, why does it take a “black” man to say, “White lives matter”?

    • Thanks: AceDeuce
  55. @Jim Don Bob
    @Cool Daddy Jimbo


    Not a fan of his music, but he raised himself greatly in my eyes by naming his kid “North.” Anybody with that sense of humor is OK in my book.
     
    Agree, but he was also dumb enough to marry that whore Kim Kardashian. IIRC, he said he trusted her so he didn't insist on a pre-nup.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

    From what I’ve heard, she’s now a lot richer than he is, though I’m at a loss as to how she made her money.

  56. @Pat Hannagan
    Kanye West is the literal Black White Supremacist Dave Chappelle predicted!

    From Oz: https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/fashion/with-a-t-shirt-ye-has-outraged-the-fashion-industry-and-activists-20221005-p5bnds.html

    It takes a lot to offend people in fashion, where rats have roamed the runway and John Galliano once called a Dior collection Haute Homeless, but Ye succeeded with an off-schedule show at Paris Fashion Week, featuring T-shirts with images of Pope John Paul II on the front and the hate speech slogan “White Lives Matter” on the back.

    The John Galliano shoutback was referring to this from some time ago: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361071/John-Galliano-called-Jewish-whore-ugly-eyebrows-says-art-historian.html

    Ye was wearing a shirt with the inflammatory White Lives Matter slogan, which has been used by the Ku Klux Klan.

    Ye is the infamous Black White Supremacist, the one and only Clayton Bigsby!

    A series of defensive posts from Ye, who was diagnosed with bipolar disorder after being hospitalised for a psychiatric emergency in 2016, followed.

    There's not a whole lot of "Are u ok?" in that belling the cat with Kanye's mental health issues. So much for that infamous tender loving, special care, time and consideration of those oppressed by The Man the Left are so famous for. Kanye is sprayed as a psychopathic mental case.

    The thing that amazed me most was that the shitlib morning herald's readers were almost 95% angered by the slur that "White Lives Matter" is hate speech.

    Who could have predicted that the art community of all people!, would have the balls to represent White people, while the rest of the public, book publishers, blog posters and online commentariat went scurrying to their holes in the wall?

    Brilliant marketing by Kanye: $10 shirt with basic slogan, name reverberates throughout the world.

    I also note he's very short by Yank standards. Five foot what?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuvR9d73OlI

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

    “There’s not a whole lot of ‘Are u ok?’ in that belling the cat with Kanye’s mental health issues. So much for that infamous tender loving, special care, time and consideration of those oppressed by The Man the Left are so famous for. Kanye is sprayed as a psychopathic mental case.”

    In 1983, a relatively brief essay collection by Frankfurt School guru, Jürgen Habermas, came out in paperback, Moralbewusstsein und kommunikatives Handeln (Moral Consciousness and Communicative Action), in which Habermas asserted, among other things, that anyone opposing his collectivism would descend into paranoid schizophrenia, and ultimately commit suicide.

  57. @Eustace Tilley (not)
    Ms. Friedman: une tres fou Juive
    Too barren of sense to conceive
    That the Blacks of today
    Do not fear KKK:
    It's a bogeyman they don't believe.

    Replies: @tomv

    fou ==> folle

    • Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)
    @tomv

    Merci!

  58. Those outfits look like a preview of the next Star Wars movie.

  59. It’s just a joke people.White Lives Don’t Matter in Biden’s America.

  60. Kanye West exclusive: Rapper tells Tucker Carlson story behind White Lives Matter shirt

    Rapper Kanye West joins ‘Tucker Carlson Tonight’ discusses blowback over controversial shirt, his father, and history of racial discrimination in America.

    [MORE]

    Ye reveals he didn’t know how close ex-wife Kim Kardashian was to Clintons

    Kanye West discusses with ‘Tucker Carlson Tonight’ his ex-wife Kim Kardashian’s relationship with the Clintons and his involvement with the brand SKIMS.

    Kanye West reveals why he was ‘biting his tongue’ about his support for Trump

    Rapper Kanye West explains how fame limits free speech on ‘Tucker Carlson Tonight.’

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    Kanye cray cray?

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/3ad77y/kanye-west-tucker-carlson-leaked-footage-antisemitism-fake-children
    https://twitter.com/annamerlan/status/1579913913143267329

    Kanye vaccinated
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVbmgup1oG8

    Kanye on Planned Parenthood
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn6PTWBXmpU

    Kanye: “We’re no longer trauma drunk.”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqwOb-cPyLE

    Kanye on Kwanzaa and Hanukkah
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soG7t2OU8ms

    Kanye on Virgil
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWOicUe7Qsk

    Kanye on energy communities
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DgC8MJfC_8

  61. Two of the highest ranking editors of Vogue were black men. The one at American Vogue I forget his name weighed about 400 pounds and wore colorful ankle length robes. Guess the Big and Tall shop didn’t have his gargantuan size.

    That was the ghey colored boy Andre Leon Talley. All he was his entire “career” was a “negro friend” AKA a pet negro, that Anna Wintour and those other idiots could show off–basically–and this term was used a lot–he was a mascot. He couldn’t “design” a garbage bag, or “edit” a candy wrapper. He amused those jaded creeps.

    One of my rules is-there’s nothing sadder than an old queer. In later life, he bit the hands that fed him, and got, no pun intended, blackballed. Since negroes, like Joe Biden, can always be counted on to fk things up, he was broke, despite making a lot of money over several decades. He relied on handouts, and toward the end, rode the blackety black black train for some money by stabbing his White former benefactors in the back even more, even though he had turned his back on his fellow negroes most of his life-like O. J.

  62. @Inverness
    @Emperor Claudius superfan


    “White Lives Matter” — a phrase that the Anti-Defamation League has called hate speech
     
    That was all I needed to know. Because no one has cornered the market on hate like the ADL has. Why, they're absolute experts.

    Replies: @Moses

    ADL’s hate burns red hot for White people. They really, really hate Whites.

  63. @Inquiring Mind
    @notsaying

    If I recall, the triggering response was "All lives matter."

    The original "Black lives matter" was a response to members of the African American community dying at the hands of the police. It could be argued that incidents of the police killing a person they encounter happens too often to people of all races, and that maybe people of all races could make common cause that something should be done in the way of improved police training, vetting of police recruits and revised police department rules that there would be fewer killings.

    I can see that "White lives matter" could be viewed as racist snark, but "All lives matter" was quickly condemned by the line of reasoning professed by a recently appointed member of the US Supreme Court.

    This may be unfair, but I am certainly not placing an "All lives matter" yard sign on my front lawn here in a of the City of Randolph, State of Morally Superior. Even if it doesn't lead to my house be paint-bombed, it would certainly estrange me from my neighbors. If I put up a "White lives matter" sign, I think I would be arrested -- certainly, there would be a warrant issued to the Randolph PD to search my closet for a Hawaiian shirt.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Nicholas Stix

    “The original ‘black lives matter’ was a response to members of the african american community dying at the hands of the police.”

    No, it wasn’t. It wasn’t a “response” to anything. However, their cover story, back in 2013, was that their slogan was a “response” to George Zimmerman, who was not a policeman, even though he did the job, unpaid, of a policeman, “murdering” Trayvon Martin in 2012.

    Trayvon Martin was a failed, aspiring murderer; George Zimmerman was the liberal, multiracial (White, mestizo, and black), neighborhood watch leader who canceled Martin’s license to kill.

    Like the lawfare campaign against George Zimmerman, the birth of blm was due to a big misunderstanding. The cop at the scene of Zimmerman’s refusal-to-die incident who wrote up the police report, mistakenly described Zimmerman as “White.” When Martin’s father, Tracy Martin, saw that Zimmerman was “White,” he got dollar signs in his eyes, and called his sister-in-law, the “civil rights” lawyer. A racial socialist, White PR guy then also jumped on the bandwagon.

    That b.s. about “members of the african american community dying at the hands of the police” may have been a later cover story.

    • Agree: Dvnjbbgc
  64. Vanessa Friedman.

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    @Father Coughlin

    Citing the ADL, about how white lives matter only to bigots.

    The utter mystery of the world's oldest prejudice, eh?

    Replies: @ATBOTL

    , @Dvnjbbgc
    @Father Coughlin

    ((())) says even more

    Replies: @Dennis Dale

  65. @Father Coughlin
    Vanessa Friedman.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Dvnjbbgc

    Citing the ADL, about how white lives matter only to bigots.

    The utter mystery of the world’s oldest prejudice, eh?

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
    @Dennis Dale

    The ADL is an indefensible organization. Its history is abominable. It has been an anti-white hate group since day one. Even the most pro-Israel white conservatives loathe the ADL. I think we need to do more to make the ADL a whipping boy like Soros is.

    We need to pressure GOP politicians to denounce the ADL and demand that the ADL not be allowed to have any role in "advising" or "training" any government office or agency. Always make a concrete demand. We demand that all American law enforcement agencies cease any contact with the ADL other than to investigate them. That't a good thing to say if you get a question with a conservative politician. It would be better than bringing up something like the USS Liberty or general jewish influence, which is more like trolling and will be easier for them to dismiss. Making concrete and realistic demands about the ADL is something with more meat to it that they will have to seriously respond too. It's not far fetched that Red State GOP politicians could order a cessation of cooperation with the ADL in the near future.

    "The ADL is an anti-white hate group." Say it over and over. Make it go viral with conservatives. They are ready now.

  66. What (((friedman))) said neither surprises nor bothers me. I’m done caring about their opinions.

  67. @Mike Tre
    New shirt logo:

    Is it acceptable to not be Black?

    Replies: @repsinec, @Dvnjbbgc

    It’s acceptable to be white.

  68. @Father Coughlin
    Vanessa Friedman.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Dvnjbbgc

    ((())) says even more

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    @Dvnjbbgc

    No it doesn't. You seem to have drawn a vagina complete with labia minora and majora. I don't understand.

  69. @Anonymous
    I've noticed that over the past decade or so, the fashion world has become increasingly black dominated and influenced. The fashion industry has been trashy for a long time of course, but until recently there was some pretense made by high fashion houses and outlets for glamour and prestige and they tried to keep some distance from much of pop culture. But now you see Kanye and other low brow black pop culture figures being affiliated with high fashion brands and shows and outlets.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Altai, @Alden, @AnotherDad, @ATBOTL

    Those companies are all owned by massive conglomerates and staffed by woke mlnls who do everything by process. Fashion in the sense it existed a long time ago — by talented and classy white artists — is dead.

  70. @Dennis Dale
    @Father Coughlin

    Citing the ADL, about how white lives matter only to bigots.

    The utter mystery of the world's oldest prejudice, eh?

    Replies: @ATBOTL

    The ADL is an indefensible organization. Its history is abominable. It has been an anti-white hate group since day one. Even the most pro-Israel white conservatives loathe the ADL. I think we need to do more to make the ADL a whipping boy like Soros is.

    We need to pressure GOP politicians to denounce the ADL and demand that the ADL not be allowed to have any role in “advising” or “training” any government office or agency. Always make a concrete demand. We demand that all American law enforcement agencies cease any contact with the ADL other than to investigate them. That’t a good thing to say if you get a question with a conservative politician. It would be better than bringing up something like the USS Liberty or general jewish influence, which is more like trolling and will be easier for them to dismiss. Making concrete and realistic demands about the ADL is something with more meat to it that they will have to seriously respond too. It’s not far fetched that Red State GOP politicians could order a cessation of cooperation with the ADL in the near future.

    “The ADL is an anti-white hate group.” Say it over and over. Make it go viral with conservatives. They are ready now.

    • Agree: Dennis Dale
  71. @Dvnjbbgc
    @Father Coughlin

    ((())) says even more

    Replies: @Dennis Dale

    No it doesn’t. You seem to have drawn a vagina complete with labia minora and majora. I don’t understand.

  72. @tomv
    @Eustace Tilley (not)

    fou ==> folle

    Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)

    Merci!

  73. @MEH 0910
    Kanye West exclusive: Rapper tells Tucker Carlson story behind White Lives Matter shirt
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTCJHxv4jMA

    Rapper Kanye West joins 'Tucker Carlson Tonight' discusses blowback over controversial shirt, his father, and history of racial discrimination in America.
     

    Ye reveals he didn't know how close ex-wife Kim Kardashian was to Clintons
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVOGB-eSvqw

    Kanye West discusses with ‘Tucker Carlson Tonight’ his ex-wife Kim Kardashian’s relationship with the Clintons and his involvement with the brand SKIMS.
     
    Kanye West reveals why he was 'biting his tongue' about his support for Trump
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xM_42CG13w

    Rapper Kanye West explains how fame limits free speech on 'Tucker Carlson Tonight.'
     

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    Kanye cray cray?

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/3ad77y/kanye-west-tucker-carlson-leaked-footage-antisemitism-fake-children


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