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Latin American farmworkers are nice people, I’m sure, but when they come to America they start at the rock bottom of the class system and basically only move up when some newer farmworkers are imported to take their jobs as they move on to, say, working in warehouses and the like. Yeah, their kids move up the ladder some on average.

But when this process was measured out to four generations by the UCLA Chicano Studies program in 2000, the long-term descendants’ educational attainment was not all that encouraging in terms of, say, what was implied about taxes the 3rd and 4th generation descendants of immigrant farmworkers paid versus budgets spent on their education, health care, welfare, policing and jailing.

Life’s good for Gavin Newsom

For some people, like Democratic candidate for governor of California Gavin Newsom, this widespread trajectory is a feature not a bug of the system. Newsom is one of those people: a straight white male from a privileged background: his father was a judge and a lawyer for Getty Oil. (A family friend and business partner of Newsom in a wine shop was Gordon Getty, who was at one time the richest man in America and inspired Gordon Gekko in Wall Street). Newsom is so aristocratically fair and fine-featured that he makes Justin Trudeau look like a commoner.

By all that we’ve read over the decades about the Latino Electoral Tsunami that will be breaking real soon now, Newsom’s career should have been swept away by now by all the brilliant Latino politicians who must have arrived on the scene in recent decades.

Except … there aren’t many brilliant Latino politicians in California. (See above about how a huge fraction of California Latinos are descended from people who couldn’t get better jobs than picking crops in Delano.) Former L.A. mayor Anthony Villaraigosa was treated by the national media as if he must be one of those hypothesized brilliant Mexican-American politicians, but not by California Democratic primary voters, who viewed him like the inept overgrown juvenile delinquent he is and gave him 13% of the vote earlier this month.

On the other hand, enough Latino voters can be counted on to show up at the polls in California in November to elect Gavin Newsom governor of the largest state in the union. So it’s really all win-win-win-win for Gavin Newsom.

For GOP politicians who will come after Paul Ryan, well …

 
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  1. I thought junk bond king Michael Milken was the inspiration for Gordon Gekko? Getty wasn’t active in Wall Street trading until long after the movie and didn’t do anything like what was depicted in the movie. As far as I can see from Wikipedia, Getty’s biggest talent is musical composition. He was worth $2B after his inheritance and today, decades later after market run-ups, is still worth the same amount, so he is about as big a market shark as I am.
    To paraphrase Marx (G. Marx): “look at me; when I first started investing in the market I didn’t have a nickel in my pocket. Now I have a nickel in my pocket.”

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Alfa158

    You know how to make a small fortune in the movie business?

    Start with a large fortune.

    , @Tom Wilkes
    @Alfa158

    (((Investors))) make money from investors.

  2. More guest workers in exchange for E-Verify and less greencards – or arguably just for E-Verify – is probably worth it though.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @IHTG

    As if the Dems will ever stop slandering the Right as racist, without their ethnic bloc voting they could not exist as a party.

    As if the business lobby would be satisfied with anything less than "Any Willing Worker"

    As if Paul Ryan could have even had the spine to call out Seth Rogen's anti-white remarks about his family.

    We are on the cusp of losing self-determination, the very thing we fought two world wars over.

    , @Lot
    @IHTG

    In theory there could be a fair trade off like that. But it will never come from Paul Ryan.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @IHTG

    Ever heard of Lucy Van Pelt, IHTG? That football won't be there when you want to kick it next time either. I hope you won't be as gullible as Charlie Brown going forward.

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @IHTG

    , @AnotherDad
    @IHTG


    More guest workers in exchange for E-Verify and less greencards – or arguably just for E-Verify – is probably worth it though.
     
    Mandatory E-verify is an absolute necessity for any program to shutoff the flow of illegals and get the ones here to self-deport.

    This is where i find Trump and the Republicans absolutely maddening. Is there an *easier* case to make than mandatory E-verify? It doesn't sound "mean" at all. It's "jobs for Americans". It's "enforcing the law". It's stopping the draw. It's making employers pay decent wages.

    Mandatory E-verify is the kind of issue where the normies line up with you pretty much completely. It's the kind of issue you can pose--heck as a single clean bill--and run on in a mid-term election ... and you'll win!

    And Republicans don't do it. Trump doesn't push it.

    Replies: @BB753

    , @Alden
    @IHTG

    So how are you going to force employers, especially the non White turd world immigrant employers to use E verify?

    A commissar in every garage sweat shop and restaurant?

  3. Anonymous [AKA "Francis Drake"] says:

    Bwah ha ha ha ha
    Bwah ha ha ha ha
    Etc…

  4. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:
    @IHTG
    More guest workers in exchange for E-Verify and less greencards - or arguably just for E-Verify - is probably worth it though.

    Replies: @Anon, @Lot, @Achmed E. Newman, @AnotherDad, @Alden

    As if the Dems will ever stop slandering the Right as racist, without their ethnic bloc voting they could not exist as a party.

    As if the business lobby would be satisfied with anything less than “Any Willing Worker”

    As if Paul Ryan could have even had the spine to call out Seth Rogen’s anti-white remarks about his family.

    We are on the cusp of losing self-determination, the very thing we fought two world wars over.

  5. Can someone comment on the state of the Republic since the President was referred to by his initials rather than his name ?

    • Replies: @Olorin
    @donut

    You mean POTUS? Or DJT?

    If POTUS, that's just another bit of acronymizing. Shortcutting.

    If DJT, there's no need to spell out the name of a man whose very silhouette is as recognizable as that of Washington or Lincoln--as we used to cut them out of black construction paper in 1st grade in the days before they, and not a Communist degenerate plagiarist preacher, had named national holidays.

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rZPhWRhzGaA/maxresdefault.jpg

    Not sure that reflects on "the Republic" at all. JFK was called that back in the day, ditto DDE.

    Replies: @donut, @donut

  6. t says:

    OT Chicago to rename Congress parkway after Ida B. Wells, because being confused by Wells Street and Wells Parkway is a small price for wokeness. Balbo Drive will keep it’s name, can’t upset the Italians. Meanwhile there were 35 shootings last weekend nice to have the city council working on important issues.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-met-ida-b-wells-congress-parkway-20180626-story.html

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @t

    Thanks.

    , @Anonymous
    @t

    https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Mountain-View-Jose-Antonio-Vargas-immigration-12998495.php


    Mountain View school to be named after undocumented immigrant Jose Antonio Vargas
     

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @t


    OT Chicago to rename Congress parkway
     
    How did it get its original name? Were people dogging in the grassy median strip?

    The semicircle in front of the Minnesota State Capitol, which is neither an avenue nor a boulevard generically, was renamed Rev Dr Martin Luther King Jr Boulevard, from Constitution Avenue.

    I thought, what a tell.

    Replies: @t, @Alden

  7. We on the right side of history are sick of the racism sick of of the sexism sick of the hater stent going to to take it anyone’s

    You wanted a fight you got one You jerks

    You think deplatfirmjng os bad? We outnumber you and are numbers are growing by the day

    We will replace you

    We will defeat you

    Rhodesia is going to look like Disney world when we are done with you

    • Replies: @22pp22
    @Tiny Duck

    Am then you will be starving with a life expectancy of 36.

    , @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    @Tiny Duck

    Except that actual Latin American countries, which the United States' future will resemble, are ruled by white people while masses of brown people scramble for nothing at the bottom.

  8. Will no one rid us of this troublesome politician.

    I hasten to add figuratively not literally. The sooner Ryan departs for his well-earned Wall Street sinecures the better!

  9. “We shroomin or what bro?”

  10. As much as I loathe the Democrats for their multi-generational project of tipping the electorate to what they think is a permanent majority for them through massive immigration, at least they have the imagination to think long term. The GOP are incredibly cheap dates on this issue – they can’t consider anything more distant than their next campaign contribution from the Chamber of Commerce. Total losers, and they are the best we have.

    • Agree: benjaminl, Anonym, Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Polynikes
    @Arclight

    It's just ignorance. Ryan is Heritage Foundation/Alec idealist. He has no real life experience and believes whatever neo-conservative theory sounds good and fair. He's actually a nice guy, but a complete empty suit.

  11. @t
    OT Chicago to rename Congress parkway after Ida B. Wells, because being confused by Wells Street and Wells Parkway is a small price for wokeness. Balbo Drive will keep it's name, can't upset the Italians. Meanwhile there were 35 shootings last weekend nice to have the city council working on important issues.


    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-met-ida-b-wells-congress-parkway-20180626-story.html

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

    Thanks.

  12. Is cunning an American trait ? Lot ?

  13. @Tiny Duck
    We on the right side of history are sick of the racism sick of of the sexism sick of the hater stent going to to take it anyone's


    You wanted a fight you got one You jerks

    You think deplatfirmjng os bad? We outnumber you and are numbers are growing by the day

    We will replace you

    We will defeat you

    Rhodesia is going to look like Disney world when we are done with you

    Replies: @22pp22, @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    Am then you will be starving with a life expectancy of 36.

  14. Gavin Newsom is straight???
    I sincerely never would have guessed.

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    @Ted Bell

    He was once married to Donald Trump Jr.'s new squeeze, Kimberly Guilfoyle.

  15. Anonymous[296] • Disclaimer says:
    @t
    OT Chicago to rename Congress parkway after Ida B. Wells, because being confused by Wells Street and Wells Parkway is a small price for wokeness. Balbo Drive will keep it's name, can't upset the Italians. Meanwhile there were 35 shootings last weekend nice to have the city council working on important issues.


    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-met-ida-b-wells-congress-parkway-20180626-story.html

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

    https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Mountain-View-Jose-Antonio-Vargas-immigration-12998495.php

    Mountain View school to be named after undocumented immigrant Jose Antonio Vargas

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    The politicians probably think naming a school after professional illegal alien Jose Antonio Vargas will please his fellow Mexican-Americans, not realizing Vargas is another over-achieving Asian, a gay one for that matter.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @International Jew

  16. @Arclight
    As much as I loathe the Democrats for their multi-generational project of tipping the electorate to what they think is a permanent majority for them through massive immigration, at least they have the imagination to think long term. The GOP are incredibly cheap dates on this issue - they can't consider anything more distant than their next campaign contribution from the Chamber of Commerce. Total losers, and they are the best we have.

    Replies: @Polynikes

    It’s just ignorance. Ryan is Heritage Foundation/Alec idealist. He has no real life experience and believes whatever neo-conservative theory sounds good and fair. He’s actually a nice guy, but a complete empty suit.

  17. For GOP politicians who will come after Paul Ryan, well …

    bored identity is not concerned at all.
    Maybe we are running out of time, but we still have so many choices:

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @bored identity

    I am familiar with the 4 tine pitchfork and the pitchfork with 8 or more tines.

    The 4 tine pitchfork spreads hay and straw and the one with 8 or more tines picks the horse manure out of the straw.

    Some people claim that pitchforks can be used for political purposes.

    Replies: @ben tillman

  18. @Anonymous
    @t

    https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Mountain-View-Jose-Antonio-Vargas-immigration-12998495.php


    Mountain View school to be named after undocumented immigrant Jose Antonio Vargas
     

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    The politicians probably think naming a school after professional illegal alien Jose Antonio Vargas will please his fellow Mexican-Americans, not realizing Vargas is another over-achieving Asian, a gay one for that matter.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer

    You mean he's not a Peruvian Nobel-winning novelist?

    , @J.Ross
    @Steve Sailer

    Mario Vargas Llosa is the Peruvian.
    However, Reg is on to something. Korean, Arabic (and thus to an extent Muslim), and Spanish names tend to involve a small set of words frequently re-used, and are very bad at identifying one specific person (as we learned in the initial implementation of the Do Not Fly list), so naming a school within these traditions offers potential deniability. I was taught Muslim history by a man with the exact same name (down to spelling) as about two dozen mid-level historical figures from the history of a mountainous Near Asian country. It protects you wonderfully from google-stalking.

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Anonymous

    , @International Jew
    @Steve Sailer

    Of the kiddies who will attend that school, more will be Chinese, than Latino. So Vargas being Philipino is kind of a two-fer. (The largest single contingent at the future Vargas Elementary School will likely be Indians.)

    The comments under that sfgate article are overwhelmingly unfavorable. Can't be long before sfgate joins 95% of other onlune news sites and ends comments...

    Replies: @Alden

  19. @t
    OT Chicago to rename Congress parkway after Ida B. Wells, because being confused by Wells Street and Wells Parkway is a small price for wokeness. Balbo Drive will keep it's name, can't upset the Italians. Meanwhile there were 35 shootings last weekend nice to have the city council working on important issues.


    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-met-ida-b-wells-congress-parkway-20180626-story.html

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

    OT Chicago to rename Congress parkway

    How did it get its original name? Were people dogging in the grassy median strip?

    The semicircle in front of the Minnesota State Capitol, which is neither an avenue nor a boulevard generically, was renamed Rev Dr Martin Luther King Jr Boulevard, from Constitution Avenue.

    I thought, what a tell.

    • Replies: @t
    @Reg Cæsar

    It was originally named after John Tyler but it was renamed after he joined then confederacy.

    https://www.chipublib.org/blogs/post/what-happened-to-tyler-street/

    , @Alden
    @Reg Cæsar

    The capital is in St Paul,. Isn’t St Paul the ghetto of Minnesota? So it’s appropriate.

  20. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    The politicians probably think naming a school after professional illegal alien Jose Antonio Vargas will please his fellow Mexican-Americans, not realizing Vargas is another over-achieving Asian, a gay one for that matter.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @International Jew

    You mean he’s not a Peruvian Nobel-winning novelist?

  21. I’m sure, but when they come to America they start at the rock bottom of the class system and basically only move up when some newer farmworkers are imported to take their jobs as they move on to, say, working in warehouses and the like. Yeah, their kids move up the ladder some on average.

    Ron Unz believes that in the long-term, Hispanics will economically converge with the White population. I’m not sure if he’s correct, but Hispanics do demonstrate encouraging signs. In recent years, there’s been a dramatic fall in their high school dropout rate, teen pregnancy rate, and propensity to join gangs. At the same time, their incomes have increased significantly and they’ve become far more likely to attend college. Interestingly, their fertility rate is becoming much more like that of a middle-class, first-world population.

    Does that mean they’ll become middle-class someday? Maybe, maybe not…….. but there are many encouraging signs.

    But when this process was measured out to four generations by the UCLA Chicano Studies program in 2000, the long-term descendants’ educational attainment was not all that encouraging in terms of, say, what was implied about taxes the 3rd and 4th generation descendants of immigrant farmworkers paid versus budgets spent on their education, health care, welfare, policing and jailing.

    According to Ron Unz, this is because the study’s sample is skewed. His theory is that more successful Hispanics marry out and dissolve in the White population, while the less successful stay in ethnic ghettos. He believes that it’s the less successful, ghettoized 3rd/4th generation Hispanics who were over sampled in the survey, while the more successful were absorbed and therefore couldn’t be sampled.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @JohnnyWalker123

    An immigrant population will never integrate as long as there's a steady and large supply of new immigrant coethnics streaming into the country. I'm sure Mexicans will sooner turn Afro-Americans into Mexicans than integrate into the wider culture. They will eventually absorb everybody except the upper middle classes.

    , @Thea
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Anecdotaly this hasn’t been my experience. I know second generation, parents born in Mexico with ancestors from Germany and Spain who insist they aren’t white. When they intermarry they follow the one drop rule.

    But maybe he had some actual data for his claims.

    , @Anonymouse
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Many local (Austin Texas) Hispanics of Mexican origin marry whites. And vice versa.

  22. @Alfa158
    I thought junk bond king Michael Milken was the inspiration for Gordon Gekko? Getty wasn't active in Wall Street trading until long after the movie and didn't do anything like what was depicted in the movie. As far as I can see from Wikipedia, Getty's biggest talent is musical composition. He was worth $2B after his inheritance and today, decades later after market run-ups, is still worth the same amount, so he is about as big a market shark as I am.
    To paraphrase Marx (G. Marx): "look at me; when I first started investing in the market I didn't have a nickel in my pocket. Now I have a nickel in my pocket."

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Tom Wilkes

    You know how to make a small fortune in the movie business?

    Start with a large fortune.

  23. Except … there aren’t many brilliant Latino politicians in California.

    Ezra Klein has found the future of Latino leadership in America, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti .

    America’s Racial Future is California’s Present

    https://www.vox.com/2018/6/26/17501088/eric-garcetti-trump-los-angeles-diversity-2020-president

    Long form interview of Ezra Klein and Mayor Garcetti. Ezra Klein wonders if the California miracle automatically translates to the rest of the country?

    https://art19.com/shows/the-ezra-klein-show/episodes/6711d890-0331-4d02-a1c1-25af1800799b

    The Southwest has always been full of Latinos, a lot of us have been living here for four or five generations — most Latino families I know have lived here longer than the average American family that is non-Latino, which has come a generation ago in LA. So I’m not so fascinated by the why. I mean, who cares?

    It appears that Mayor Garcetti’s Latino friends may not be representative of Latinos in the Southwest. Regardless, Mayor Garcetti is an impressive guy with a great demeanor. I’d say Garcetti has a decent shot at being our first Latino and Jewish President. Certainly, Governor of California should be in the cards.

    • Replies: @AnonAnon
    @Clifford Brown


    Regardless, Mayor Garcetti is an impressive guy with a great demeanor.
     
    Do you live in LA or even the LA region? I don't think anyone is impressed with Garcetti. He might look nice in suits but that's about it, he's pretty much a non-entity. The big AM drive-time talk radio show calls him "Mayor Yoga Pants", which tells you all you need to know about him.

    Replies: @Alden

  24. Wisconsin plans to name its largest pig manure lake the Paul Ryan Lake in honor of his contributions to Wis and Old Glory.

  25. When Paul Ryan’s buddy Eric Cantor was unceremoniously fired by his Virginia constituents he was punished with a pay increase of roughly 1000%. Ryan is on his way out of office at a very young age and, I suspect, is simply trying to burnish his resume to ensure he can walk into an even more lucrative gig than Cantor. It’s ex post facto bribery: do what we want you to do while you’re in office and after you leave we will compensate you handily. No words ever need to be said, no explicit promises ever need to be made. They know what’s in store for them if they do the bidding of big business.

    • Replies: @densa
    @Wilkey


    It's ex post facto bribery
     
    That's what it is. Especially with the pocketing of unspent campaign funds. Ryan will be walking away with at least $10 million for 2017-2018 and possible a similar amount left from before. So what's his goldmine called?

    H.R. 4174 Foundation for Evidence-based Policy Making Act 2017. Big, lucrative technology upgrade that will help the owners keep a better eye on the hired help. Patty Murray D-Boeing, introduced identical Democratic version. They aim to have a bipartisan auction.

    The company appearing most involved in helping the rubes with this technological upgrade is RELX Group, "a world leader in information and analytics headquartered in London."

    Having an international group of spooks run the world isn't cheap.
  26. What if AMLO decides just to annex CA and TX? Where is Newsome then? Or Getty?

  27. In other congress news insurgent anti Israel socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has defeated 19 term congressman Joe Crowley in Queens New York City to win the Democratic primary. She also wants to disband the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency. As far as I can tell the Rs did not bother to have a primary, although I suspect they will find a way to run a candidate.

    Insurgent Who Toppled Joe Crowley, Is A Strong Critic Of Israel
    Read more: https://forward.com/fast-forward/404159/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-insurgent-who-toppled-joe-crowley-is-a-strong/

    Meet The Bronx-Born Puerto Rican Challenging One Of The Most Powerful House Democrats
    https://www.refinery29.com/2018/06/201503/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-new-york-congress-14th-district

  28. Anonymous [AKA "Albert frankenstein"] says:

    Why is the entire human world ethnically divided and ethnically motivated politics and ethnically motivated violence is a universal problem, but here in America we import the entire human world and expect everyone to get along?
    Anyone?

  29. Politicians who come after Paul Ryan?’ Ho, ho, that’s rich.

    Aprés moi, le deluge.

    — Pretty Much Every Politician in the Worlds Since at Least About 1900, Maybe Muvh Earlier…Maybe Ever…

  30. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    The politicians probably think naming a school after professional illegal alien Jose Antonio Vargas will please his fellow Mexican-Americans, not realizing Vargas is another over-achieving Asian, a gay one for that matter.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @International Jew

    Mario Vargas Llosa is the Peruvian.
    However, Reg is on to something. Korean, Arabic (and thus to an extent Muslim), and Spanish names tend to involve a small set of words frequently re-used, and are very bad at identifying one specific person (as we learned in the initial implementation of the Do Not Fly list), so naming a school within these traditions offers potential deniability. I was taught Muslim history by a man with the exact same name (down to spelling) as about two dozen mid-level historical figures from the history of a mountainous Near Asian country. It protects you wonderfully from google-stalking.

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    @J.Ross


    Mario Vargas Llosa is the Peruvian.
     
    Mario Vargas Llosa wisely skipped town on Peru 25 years ago. He has lived in Madrid for twenty-five years, with stints in London and at Harvard. He became a Spanish citizen in 1993 and has been awarded Spanish Nobility.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquisate_of_Vargas_Llosa

    He's basically The Last of Famous International Literary Playboys.

    Replies: @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    , @Anonymous
    @J.Ross

    Spanish is the Esperanto of real Romance languages, much simpler than Classical Latin or French.

    Italian is.....well, it's one particular dialect of il volgare, of many still in existence in Italy.

    There wasn't a Unified and Official Italy until Garibaldi, and "official Italian" was an artificial construct, as it were. Before then a Florentine could no more easily converse with a Venetian than he could with a Spaniard or Frenchman.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpKKfeQT7H8

    I'd wager many or most young Italians could understand the English bits but not the "Italian".

  31. @IHTG
    More guest workers in exchange for E-Verify and less greencards - or arguably just for E-Verify - is probably worth it though.

    Replies: @Anon, @Lot, @Achmed E. Newman, @AnotherDad, @Alden

    In theory there could be a fair trade off like that. But it will never come from Paul Ryan.

  32. But when this process was measured out to four generations by the UCLA Chicano Studies program in 2000, the long-term descendants’ educational attainment was not all that encouraging in terms of, say, what was implied about taxes the 3rd and 4th generation descendants of immigrant farmworkers paid versus budgets spent on their education, health care, welfare, policing and jailing.

    By the way, it should be emphasized that income doesn’t always correlate highly with value creation. Sometimes people contribute significantly to the GDP, but are unpaid due to factors like labor market competition or information asymmetry. Sometimes people contribute little to the GDP, but reap huge rewards due to being in a lucrative economic niche.

    For example, if you’re an illegal alien or “temporary” farm worker, you’re often extremely desperate and will take whatever wage is offered. So you’re not really in a position to bargain well and will likely be underpaid significantly. However, your employer (and whatever investors/partners he has) will realize labor savings and reap a higher income. In addition to this, consumers will also see reduced prices in the super market and reap benefit too.

    The farm worker might receive more in benefits than he pays in taxes, but he also creates significant value for the employer/investor and consumer. This benefit isn’t really factored into these income/tax calculations.

    In a state like California, there are lots of wealthy farmers, restaurant owners, real estate investors, and construction contractors. They became wealthy not just because of their business acumen and work ethic. They became wealthy on the backs of underpaid, often exploited foreign workers.

    In many cases, it’s not the entrepreneur/financier who’s the wealth creator. It’s the worker who’s the true wealth creator. Unfortunately, he’s often not in the position to reap the benefits of what’s created.

    There used to be many labor unions to negotiate high wages for workers in industries like construction, agricultural, and meatpacking. However, during the 70s and 80s, businessmen broke unions across the country. This made it easier to keep wages low and working conditions poor. Many employers brought in non-union “scab” labor or outsourced to pro-business “right to work” states.

    In Republican-dominated California, business-friendly local politicians (such as Pete Wilson) were very instrumental in fighting unions, suppressing the minimum wage, minimizing labor regulations&workplace enforcement, zoning land for development, and making life very pleasant for the local oligarchs. This created enormous amounts of wealth for the oligarchs and kept economic growth high, which pulled in large numbers of lower-paid migrant workers.

  33. ‘Nice little country you have there, it would be a shame if something were to happen to it.’

    “reporter”

    • Replies: @jim jones
    @eah

    Emily Maitlis is Jewish, the BBC is packed with them

  34. There are brilliant latina politicians in New York.

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a 28-year-old Latina running her first campaign, ousted 10-term incumbent Rep. Joe Crowley in New York’s 14th congressional Democrat Primary.

    http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/176580277

    A liberal hispanic woman who thinks money just grows on trees.
    She sees Venezuela as a guide not a warning.

    Anonymous (ID: LvDDNiIc) FC
    06/26/18(Tue)22:36:45 No.176581052

    >>176580277 (OP) #
    Can’t believe nobody saw this coming: NY-14 is almost 50% latino.

    Don’t forget, “Democracy is a racial headcount“. I forget who I first heard that from* but damn, it’s showing to be more and more true.

    *That might not have been from here but it reminds one of the Sailer Strategy.

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    @J.Ross

    Basically, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is of Puerto Rican heritage and she ran on her identity. Her campaign slogan was literally "It's Time For One of US" and used the hashtag #ONEOFUS. Her opponent, Crowley, actually was a son of an immigrant (unfortunately from Europe). He was basically a LIFER and uninteresting, BUT he might have replaced Pelosi as Democratic Minority Leader, which if that happened, would have been very good for New York City.

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is quite attractive and looks like a younger Rosario Dawson. Every Bernie Bro/ DSA hipster in the Five Boroughs is crushing on her, but her voter base is Latino.

    She had a good campaign commercial.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq3QXIVR0bs


    Let's see how she performs. If she stays a "Democratic Socialist" as opposed to a typical corrupt NYC pol, then more power to her. I much prefer an actual socialist party over whatever the Dems are now. I have my doubts though.

  35. Having actually read the rest of it, it’s really not as bad as all the knee-jerk reactions would suggest. Much better than I would have expected from Ryan.

  36. Gordon Getty wasn’t just Newsom’s partner in the wine business. Getty funded every “business” Newsom ever pretended to have. Newsom has gotten millions from Getty over the years. His entire resume is a joke. He’s done nothing on his own. And When Newsom and his buddy Billy Getty broke up, Gordon stuck with Gavin and Billy’s nowhere.

    It’s weird. I hope a biographer explains it someday.

  37. @Reg Cæsar
    @t


    OT Chicago to rename Congress parkway
     
    How did it get its original name? Were people dogging in the grassy median strip?

    The semicircle in front of the Minnesota State Capitol, which is neither an avenue nor a boulevard generically, was renamed Rev Dr Martin Luther King Jr Boulevard, from Constitution Avenue.

    I thought, what a tell.

    Replies: @t, @Alden

    It was originally named after John Tyler but it was renamed after he joined then confederacy.

    https://www.chipublib.org/blogs/post/what-happened-to-tyler-street/

  38. After God had finished the rattlesnake, the toad, and the vampire, he had some awful substance left with which he made Paul Ryan.

    Paul Ryan is a two-legged animal with a corkscrew soul, a water brain, a combination backbone of jelly and glue. Where others have hearts, he carries a tumor of rotten principles.

    When Paul Ryan comes down the street, men turn their backs and angels weep in heaven, and the devil shuts the gates of hell to keep him out.

    No man has a right to be Paul Ryan so long as there is a pool of water to drown his carcass in, or a rope long enough to hang his body with. Judas was a gentleman compared with Paul Ryan. For betraying his master, he had character enough to hang himself. Paul Ryan does not.

    Esau sold his birthright for a mess of pottage. Judas sold his Savior for thirty pieces of silver. Benedict Arnold sold his country for a commission in the British army. Paul Ryan sells his birthright, country, his wife, his children and his fellowmen for an unfulfilled promise from his employer.

    Esau was a traitor to himself, Judas was a traitor to his God; Benedict Arnold was a traitor to his country; Paul Ryan is a traitor to his God, his country, his family and his class.

  39. @J.Ross
    @Steve Sailer

    Mario Vargas Llosa is the Peruvian.
    However, Reg is on to something. Korean, Arabic (and thus to an extent Muslim), and Spanish names tend to involve a small set of words frequently re-used, and are very bad at identifying one specific person (as we learned in the initial implementation of the Do Not Fly list), so naming a school within these traditions offers potential deniability. I was taught Muslim history by a man with the exact same name (down to spelling) as about two dozen mid-level historical figures from the history of a mountainous Near Asian country. It protects you wonderfully from google-stalking.

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Anonymous

    Mario Vargas Llosa is the Peruvian.

    Mario Vargas Llosa wisely skipped town on Peru 25 years ago. He has lived in Madrid for twenty-five years, with stints in London and at Harvard. He became a Spanish citizen in 1993 and has been awarded Spanish Nobility.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquisate_of_Vargas_Llosa

    He’s basically The Last of Famous International Literary Playboys.

    • Replies: @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    @Clifford Brown

    Vargas Llosa is also, let's say, of the Conquistador-Peruvian variety.

    He recently left his wife for Enrique Iglesias's mother (yes, random) who is a famous Spanish/Filipina socialite, so International Playboy is pretty much accurate.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @duncsbaby

  40. @JohnnyWalker123

    I’m sure, but when they come to America they start at the rock bottom of the class system and basically only move up when some newer farmworkers are imported to take their jobs as they move on to, say, working in warehouses and the like. Yeah, their kids move up the ladder some on average.
     
    Ron Unz believes that in the long-term, Hispanics will economically converge with the White population. I'm not sure if he's correct, but Hispanics do demonstrate encouraging signs. In recent years, there's been a dramatic fall in their high school dropout rate, teen pregnancy rate, and propensity to join gangs. At the same time, their incomes have increased significantly and they've become far more likely to attend college. Interestingly, their fertility rate is becoming much more like that of a middle-class, first-world population.

    Does that mean they'll become middle-class someday? Maybe, maybe not........ but there are many encouraging signs.

    But when this process was measured out to four generations by the UCLA Chicano Studies program in 2000, the long-term descendants’ educational attainment was not all that encouraging in terms of, say, what was implied about taxes the 3rd and 4th generation descendants of immigrant farmworkers paid versus budgets spent on their education, health care, welfare, policing and jailing.

     

    According to Ron Unz, this is because the study's sample is skewed. His theory is that more successful Hispanics marry out and dissolve in the White population, while the less successful stay in ethnic ghettos. He believes that it's the less successful, ghettoized 3rd/4th generation Hispanics who were over sampled in the survey, while the more successful were absorbed and therefore couldn't be sampled.

    Replies: @BB753, @Thea, @Anonymouse

    An immigrant population will never integrate as long as there’s a steady and large supply of new immigrant coethnics streaming into the country. I’m sure Mexicans will sooner turn Afro-Americans into Mexicans than integrate into the wider culture. They will eventually absorb everybody except the upper middle classes.

  41. “I can’t help that I was born white,” whined Congressman Joe Crowley as he proceeded to lose his primary to a 28 year-old Latinx member of the Democratic Socialists of America.

    This guy thought he was going to be Speaker. Maybe he should have got Noel Ignatiev to explain to the Puerto Ricans that the Irish aren’t really white.

    LOLZ sweet justice for this craven, corrupt phony who ran a bullshot machine out of a Nassau County law firm that everyone knew was a paper tiger.

  42. @IHTG
    More guest workers in exchange for E-Verify and less greencards - or arguably just for E-Verify - is probably worth it though.

    Replies: @Anon, @Lot, @Achmed E. Newman, @AnotherDad, @Alden

    Ever heard of Lucy Van Pelt, IHTG? That football won’t be there when you want to kick it next time either. I hope you won’t be as gullible as Charlie Brown going forward.

    • Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Did you know “aarrghh” is a word that can be played in a game of Scrabble? It’s in the official Scrabble dictionary. I made a bingo with it once.

    , @IHTG
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Not claiming otherwise.

  43. Anonymous[506] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    @Steve Sailer

    Mario Vargas Llosa is the Peruvian.
    However, Reg is on to something. Korean, Arabic (and thus to an extent Muslim), and Spanish names tend to involve a small set of words frequently re-used, and are very bad at identifying one specific person (as we learned in the initial implementation of the Do Not Fly list), so naming a school within these traditions offers potential deniability. I was taught Muslim history by a man with the exact same name (down to spelling) as about two dozen mid-level historical figures from the history of a mountainous Near Asian country. It protects you wonderfully from google-stalking.

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Anonymous

    Spanish is the Esperanto of real Romance languages, much simpler than Classical Latin or French.

    Italian is…..well, it’s one particular dialect of il volgare, of many still in existence in Italy.

    There wasn’t a Unified and Official Italy until Garibaldi, and “official Italian” was an artificial construct, as it were. Before then a Florentine could no more easily converse with a Venetian than he could with a Spaniard or Frenchman.

    I’d wager many or most young Italians could understand the English bits but not the “Italian”.

  44. I just attended a local GOP event.

    Despite Ryan’s best efforts to destroy the morale of GOP voters, enthusiasm for Trump, and enthusiasm for winning the midterms in order to help Trump, was extremely high.

    However, the average age of attendees was also very high. And they didn’t seem to grasp what was really going on. (They seemed to believe (e.g.) that Trump was on the verge of banning abortion if we could just get him a bigger house majority. Alarming but whatever, a win is a win)

    I believe physical security is going to be a big problem for our side this fall. We have a lot of younger guys that lift and a lot of guys that carry, but we also have a lot of aging people who are frankly very soft targets. We need to make sure these people feel safe and are safe getting to the polls.

  45. @J.Ross
    There are brilliant latina politicians in New York.

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a 28-year-old Latina running her first campaign, ousted 10-term incumbent Rep. Joe Crowley in New York's 14th congressional Democrat Primary.

     

    http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/176580277

    A liberal hispanic woman who thinks money just grows on trees.
    She sees Venezuela as a guide not a warning.

    Anonymous (ID: LvDDNiIc) FC
    06/26/18(Tue)22:36:45 No.176581052

    >>176580277 (OP) #
    Can't believe nobody saw this coming: NY-14 is almost 50% latino.

    Don't forget, "Democracy is a racial headcount". I forget who I first heard that from* but damn, it's showing to be more and more true.
     
    *That might not have been from here but it reminds one of the Sailer Strategy.

    Replies: @Clifford Brown

    Basically, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is of Puerto Rican heritage and she ran on her identity. Her campaign slogan was literally “It’s Time For One of US” and used the hashtag #ONEOFUS. Her opponent, Crowley, actually was a son of an immigrant (unfortunately from Europe). He was basically a LIFER and uninteresting, BUT he might have replaced Pelosi as Democratic Minority Leader, which if that happened, would have been very good for New York City.

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is quite attractive and looks like a younger Rosario Dawson. Every Bernie Bro/ DSA hipster in the Five Boroughs is crushing on her, but her voter base is Latino.

    She had a good campaign commercial.

    Let’s see how she performs. If she stays a “Democratic Socialist” as opposed to a typical corrupt NYC pol, then more power to her. I much prefer an actual socialist party over whatever the Dems are now. I have my doubts though.

  46. Slight correction; the children and grandchildren of immigrant farm workers don’t grow up to be packing warehouse and cannery workers.

    They grow up to be criminals, prison inmates and welfare mamas.

  47. @Tiny Duck
    We on the right side of history are sick of the racism sick of of the sexism sick of the hater stent going to to take it anyone's


    You wanted a fight you got one You jerks

    You think deplatfirmjng os bad? We outnumber you and are numbers are growing by the day

    We will replace you

    We will defeat you

    Rhodesia is going to look like Disney world when we are done with you

    Replies: @22pp22, @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    Except that actual Latin American countries, which the United States’ future will resemble, are ruled by white people while masses of brown people scramble for nothing at the bottom.

  48. @Clifford Brown
    @J.Ross


    Mario Vargas Llosa is the Peruvian.
     
    Mario Vargas Llosa wisely skipped town on Peru 25 years ago. He has lived in Madrid for twenty-five years, with stints in London and at Harvard. He became a Spanish citizen in 1993 and has been awarded Spanish Nobility.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquisate_of_Vargas_Llosa

    He's basically The Last of Famous International Literary Playboys.

    Replies: @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    Vargas Llosa is also, let’s say, of the Conquistador-Peruvian variety.

    He recently left his wife for Enrique Iglesias’s mother (yes, random) who is a famous Spanish/Filipina socialite, so International Playboy is pretty much accurate.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    I read a novel Vargas-Llosa wrote about the affair he had as a young man with his uncle's ex-wife Aunt Julia.

    , @duncsbaby
    @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    I prefer to think of her as Julio Iglesias's ex-wife. I'm old school though.

  49. @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    @Clifford Brown

    Vargas Llosa is also, let's say, of the Conquistador-Peruvian variety.

    He recently left his wife for Enrique Iglesias's mother (yes, random) who is a famous Spanish/Filipina socialite, so International Playboy is pretty much accurate.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @duncsbaby

    I read a novel Vargas-Llosa wrote about the affair he had as a young man with his uncle’s ex-wife Aunt Julia.

  50. Please refrain from linking to that photo of the worker tossing his onions. I showed that picture around my office and every straight woman and gay man was of the opinion that we should open the borders and admit as many hot-looking immigrants like him as we can possibly get.

  51. @eah
    'Nice little country you have there, it would be a shame if something were to happen to it.'

    "reporter"

    https://twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/status/1011629069102997509

    Replies: @jim jones

    Emily Maitlis is Jewish, the BBC is packed with them

  52. @Achmed E. Newman
    @IHTG

    Ever heard of Lucy Van Pelt, IHTG? That football won't be there when you want to kick it next time either. I hope you won't be as gullible as Charlie Brown going forward.

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @IHTG

    Did you know “aarrghh” is a word that can be played in a game of Scrabble? It’s in the official Scrabble dictionary. I made a bingo with it once.

  53. @Clifford Brown

    Except … there aren’t many brilliant Latino politicians in California.
     
    Ezra Klein has found the future of Latino leadership in America, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti .

    America’s Racial Future is California’s Present
     
    https://www.vox.com/2018/6/26/17501088/eric-garcetti-trump-los-angeles-diversity-2020-president

    Long form interview of Ezra Klein and Mayor Garcetti. Ezra Klein wonders if the California miracle automatically translates to the rest of the country?

    https://art19.com/shows/the-ezra-klein-show/episodes/6711d890-0331-4d02-a1c1-25af1800799b

    The Southwest has always been full of Latinos, a lot of us have been living here for four or five generations — most Latino families I know have lived here longer than the average American family that is non-Latino, which has come a generation ago in LA. So I’m not so fascinated by the why. I mean, who cares?
     
    It appears that Mayor Garcetti's Latino friends may not be representative of Latinos in the Southwest. Regardless, Mayor Garcetti is an impressive guy with a great demeanor. I'd say Garcetti has a decent shot at being our first Latino and Jewish President. Certainly, Governor of California should be in the cards.

    Replies: @AnonAnon

    Regardless, Mayor Garcetti is an impressive guy with a great demeanor.

    Do you live in LA or even the LA region? I don’t think anyone is impressed with Garcetti. He might look nice in suits but that’s about it, he’s pretty much a non-entity. The big AM drive-time talk radio show calls him “Mayor Yoga Pants”, which tells you all you need to know about him.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @AnonAnon

    At least he’s not a publicity hound like Villagrosa. Remember all those pictures of Villagross reading to little Hispanic kids?

  54. @Achmed E. Newman
    @IHTG

    Ever heard of Lucy Van Pelt, IHTG? That football won't be there when you want to kick it next time either. I hope you won't be as gullible as Charlie Brown going forward.

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @IHTG

    Not claiming otherwise.

  55. Anonymous[377] • Disclaimer says:

    Schaeffer’s Number.

  56. @Ted Bell
    Gavin Newsom is straight???
    I sincerely never would have guessed.

    Replies: @duncsbaby

    He was once married to Donald Trump Jr.’s new squeeze, Kimberly Guilfoyle.

  57. @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    @Clifford Brown

    Vargas Llosa is also, let's say, of the Conquistador-Peruvian variety.

    He recently left his wife for Enrique Iglesias's mother (yes, random) who is a famous Spanish/Filipina socialite, so International Playboy is pretty much accurate.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @duncsbaby

    I prefer to think of her as Julio Iglesias’s ex-wife. I’m old school though.

  58. Anonymous[368] • Disclaimer says:

    Of course, every *single* immigrant grunt farm worker that you happen to spy on your travels and perambulations is the living embodiment, (literally), of both a fiscal and economic *dead loss* – using the accountancy jargon in the strictest sense of the term – to the productive side if the US economy.

    In the aggregate, the sum of all of these individual dead losses is truly enormous.

    The upshot is that the productive workers of the future USA will have their living standards well and truly diminished by the present existence of the grunt army.

    No two ways about. Anyone who tries to claim otherwise is either a fool or a liar.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Anonymous


    Of course, every *single* immigrant grunt farm worker that you happen to spy on your travels and perambulations is the living embodiment, (literally), of both a fiscal and economic *dead loss*...
     
    Agreed. And they are also a social dead loss, because we have to listen to sh***y Mexican music at McDonalds, have every sign and instruction manual in English and Spanish, press 1 for English, etc.

    Some of their women are cute before they get fat, but that's the best thing I can say. Send them all home now. I don't care what it costs.
  59. @JohnnyWalker123

    I’m sure, but when they come to America they start at the rock bottom of the class system and basically only move up when some newer farmworkers are imported to take their jobs as they move on to, say, working in warehouses and the like. Yeah, their kids move up the ladder some on average.
     
    Ron Unz believes that in the long-term, Hispanics will economically converge with the White population. I'm not sure if he's correct, but Hispanics do demonstrate encouraging signs. In recent years, there's been a dramatic fall in their high school dropout rate, teen pregnancy rate, and propensity to join gangs. At the same time, their incomes have increased significantly and they've become far more likely to attend college. Interestingly, their fertility rate is becoming much more like that of a middle-class, first-world population.

    Does that mean they'll become middle-class someday? Maybe, maybe not........ but there are many encouraging signs.

    But when this process was measured out to four generations by the UCLA Chicano Studies program in 2000, the long-term descendants’ educational attainment was not all that encouraging in terms of, say, what was implied about taxes the 3rd and 4th generation descendants of immigrant farmworkers paid versus budgets spent on their education, health care, welfare, policing and jailing.

     

    According to Ron Unz, this is because the study's sample is skewed. His theory is that more successful Hispanics marry out and dissolve in the White population, while the less successful stay in ethnic ghettos. He believes that it's the less successful, ghettoized 3rd/4th generation Hispanics who were over sampled in the survey, while the more successful were absorbed and therefore couldn't be sampled.

    Replies: @BB753, @Thea, @Anonymouse

    Anecdotaly this hasn’t been my experience. I know second generation, parents born in Mexico with ancestors from Germany and Spain who insist they aren’t white. When they intermarry they follow the one drop rule.

    But maybe he had some actual data for his claims.

  60. @bored identity


    For GOP politicians who will come after Paul Ryan, well …

     

    bored identity is not concerned at all.
    Maybe we are running out of time, but we still have so many choices:

    https://utahtransplant.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/pitchforks-i.jpg

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    I am familiar with the 4 tine pitchfork and the pitchfork with 8 or more tines.

    The 4 tine pitchfork spreads hay and straw and the one with 8 or more tines picks the horse manure out of the straw.

    Some people claim that pitchforks can be used for political purposes.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Charles Pewitt


    Some people claim that pitchforks can be used for political purposes.
     
    Indeed they can.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

  61. Paul Ryan Is A Nasty Politician Whore For The GOP CHEAP LABOR FACTION

    Paul Ryan Pushes Mass Legal Immigration And AMNESTY For Illegal Alien Invaders.

    • Agree: Buck Turgidson
  62. @Wilkey
    When Paul Ryan's buddy Eric Cantor was unceremoniously fired by his Virginia constituents he was punished with a pay increase of roughly 1000%. Ryan is on his way out of office at a very young age and, I suspect, is simply trying to burnish his resume to ensure he can walk into an even more lucrative gig than Cantor. It's ex post facto bribery: do what we want you to do while you're in office and after you leave we will compensate you handily. No words ever need to be said, no explicit promises ever need to be made. They know what's in store for them if they do the bidding of big business.

    Replies: @densa

    It’s ex post facto bribery

    That’s what it is. Especially with the pocketing of unspent campaign funds. Ryan will be walking away with at least $10 million for 2017-2018 and possible a similar amount left from before. So what’s his goldmine called?

    H.R. 4174 Foundation for Evidence-based Policy Making Act 2017. Big, lucrative technology upgrade that will help the owners keep a better eye on the hired help. Patty Murray D-Boeing, introduced identical Democratic version. They aim to have a bipartisan auction.

    The company appearing most involved in helping the rubes with this technological upgrade is RELX Group, “a world leader in information and analytics headquartered in London.”

    Having an international group of spooks run the world isn’t cheap.

  63. Some of you may wonder why I continue to vote for the Democratic Party.

    Consider, the congressman from my district, (Mark Pocan, D-Madison, Wisconsin) is the poster child for why millions of people are turning away from the Democratic Party.

    https://splinternews.com/a-democratic-congressman-is-introducing-a-bill-to-aboli-1827109773

    And then, in the district right next to ours, the GOP congressman is Paul Ryan.

    In other words, do I want my toenails pulled out with Mark Pocan, or do I want my fingernails AND toenails pulled out with Paul Ryan?

    I’ll stick with the Democrats until the Wisconsin GOP cleans up its act. Sorry if that offends anyone.

    (To be fair, sometimes I can’t bring myself to vote for Pocan. I know he has a 100% chance of winning, so sometimes I vote against him just because I can without fear of a Ryan clone winning.)

    • Replies: @Olorin
    @Paleo Liberal


    I’ll stick with the Democrats until the Wisconsin GOP cleans up its act. Sorry if that offends anyone.
     
    Youse cheezers used to do better than vacillating between the two wings of the UniParty. ;D

    Pocan--does he still live on that half-million-dollar three-acre spread outside 95.8% white Black Earth? Easy not to care about ICE when your townlet of residence has something like 17 Hispanics total.

    http://www.city-data.com/city/Black-Earth-Wisconsin.html

    Or is it 97.9% white Vermont, Wisconsin, with 6 Hispanics?

    http://www.city-data.com/city/Vermont-Wisconsin.html

    Pocan had some sort of major heart surgery, didn't he? (A contact was in Mad General at the same time last year and passed this along.) Anybody being groomed as his Rainbow successor? Assuming that Second's House seat now a sinecure for the Rainbow Flag Candidate du Jour.

    Your voting strategy sounds sensible to me. I remember when Petey Ryan, the up and coming junior political striver and Jack Kemp protegee, was literally carrying canapes at GOP fundraisers.

    I mean, at least Pocan owned a print shop...which appears to be still operating.

    Ryan has never had a real job. The year he drafted press releases for his family's construction company doesn't count. He's always been part of the political access/patronage class. To think of him lecturing the rest of us about where best to get our labor force is endurable only with old-fashioned-glassesful of satiric humor.

    , @MBlanc46
    @Paleo Liberal

    Participating in the Dem-Repub charade simply perpetuates it.

  64. @IHTG
    More guest workers in exchange for E-Verify and less greencards - or arguably just for E-Verify - is probably worth it though.

    Replies: @Anon, @Lot, @Achmed E. Newman, @AnotherDad, @Alden

    More guest workers in exchange for E-Verify and less greencards – or arguably just for E-Verify – is probably worth it though.

    Mandatory E-verify is an absolute necessity for any program to shutoff the flow of illegals and get the ones here to self-deport.

    This is where i find Trump and the Republicans absolutely maddening. Is there an *easier* case to make than mandatory E-verify? It doesn’t sound “mean” at all. It’s “jobs for Americans”. It’s “enforcing the law”. It’s stopping the draw. It’s making employers pay decent wages.

    Mandatory E-verify is the kind of issue where the normies line up with you pretty much completely. It’s the kind of issue you can pose–heck as a single clean bill–and run on in a mid-term election … and you’ll win!

    And Republicans don’t do it. Trump doesn’t push it.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @BB753
    @AnotherDad

    "It’s making employers pay decent wages."

    Those are fighting words for the Chamber of Commerce. You can't have that! What's good for ordinary citizens is bad for the "economy", i.e. big corporations.

  65. Anonymous [AKA "Jinxthinks"] says:

    The democrats like Paul Ryan just look out for their own. Long gone are the days of public service. I was never given nor took anything I didn’t work for,unlike the fake “public servants”.

  66. @Anonymous
    Of course, every *single* immigrant grunt farm worker that you happen to spy on your travels and perambulations is the living embodiment, (literally), of both a fiscal and economic *dead loss* - using the accountancy jargon in the strictest sense of the term - to the productive side if the US economy.

    In the aggregate, the sum of all of these individual dead losses is truly enormous.

    The upshot is that the productive workers of the future USA will have their living standards well and truly diminished by the present existence of the grunt army.

    No two ways about. Anyone who tries to claim otherwise is either a fool or a liar.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Of course, every *single* immigrant grunt farm worker that you happen to spy on your travels and perambulations is the living embodiment, (literally), of both a fiscal and economic *dead loss*

    Agreed. And they are also a social dead loss, because we have to listen to sh***y Mexican music at McDonalds, have every sign and instruction manual in English and Spanish, press 1 for English, etc.

    Some of their women are cute before they get fat, but that’s the best thing I can say. Send them all home now. I don’t care what it costs.

  67. @donut
    Can someone comment on the state of the Republic since the President was referred to by his initials rather than his name ?

    Replies: @Olorin

    You mean POTUS? Or DJT?

    If POTUS, that’s just another bit of acronymizing. Shortcutting.

    If DJT, there’s no need to spell out the name of a man whose very silhouette is as recognizable as that of Washington or Lincoln–as we used to cut them out of black construction paper in 1st grade in the days before they, and not a Communist degenerate plagiarist preacher, had named national holidays.

    Not sure that reflects on “the Republic” at all. JFK was called that back in the day, ditto DDE.

    • Replies: @donut
    @Olorin

    No ,

    , @donut
    @Olorin

    No . I was thinking that the first president that I know of who was commonly referred to by his initials : Teddy Roosevelt was TR . Then FDR , JFK , RMN , ETC. That sort of thing .

  68. @JohnnyWalker123

    I’m sure, but when they come to America they start at the rock bottom of the class system and basically only move up when some newer farmworkers are imported to take their jobs as they move on to, say, working in warehouses and the like. Yeah, their kids move up the ladder some on average.
     
    Ron Unz believes that in the long-term, Hispanics will economically converge with the White population. I'm not sure if he's correct, but Hispanics do demonstrate encouraging signs. In recent years, there's been a dramatic fall in their high school dropout rate, teen pregnancy rate, and propensity to join gangs. At the same time, their incomes have increased significantly and they've become far more likely to attend college. Interestingly, their fertility rate is becoming much more like that of a middle-class, first-world population.

    Does that mean they'll become middle-class someday? Maybe, maybe not........ but there are many encouraging signs.

    But when this process was measured out to four generations by the UCLA Chicano Studies program in 2000, the long-term descendants’ educational attainment was not all that encouraging in terms of, say, what was implied about taxes the 3rd and 4th generation descendants of immigrant farmworkers paid versus budgets spent on their education, health care, welfare, policing and jailing.

     

    According to Ron Unz, this is because the study's sample is skewed. His theory is that more successful Hispanics marry out and dissolve in the White population, while the less successful stay in ethnic ghettos. He believes that it's the less successful, ghettoized 3rd/4th generation Hispanics who were over sampled in the survey, while the more successful were absorbed and therefore couldn't be sampled.

    Replies: @BB753, @Thea, @Anonymouse

    Many local (Austin Texas) Hispanics of Mexican origin marry whites. And vice versa.

  69. @AnotherDad
    @IHTG


    More guest workers in exchange for E-Verify and less greencards – or arguably just for E-Verify – is probably worth it though.
     
    Mandatory E-verify is an absolute necessity for any program to shutoff the flow of illegals and get the ones here to self-deport.

    This is where i find Trump and the Republicans absolutely maddening. Is there an *easier* case to make than mandatory E-verify? It doesn't sound "mean" at all. It's "jobs for Americans". It's "enforcing the law". It's stopping the draw. It's making employers pay decent wages.

    Mandatory E-verify is the kind of issue where the normies line up with you pretty much completely. It's the kind of issue you can pose--heck as a single clean bill--and run on in a mid-term election ... and you'll win!

    And Republicans don't do it. Trump doesn't push it.

    Replies: @BB753

    “It’s making employers pay decent wages.”

    Those are fighting words for the Chamber of Commerce. You can’t have that! What’s good for ordinary citizens is bad for the “economy”, i.e. big corporations.

  70. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    The politicians probably think naming a school after professional illegal alien Jose Antonio Vargas will please his fellow Mexican-Americans, not realizing Vargas is another over-achieving Asian, a gay one for that matter.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @International Jew

    Of the kiddies who will attend that school, more will be Chinese, than Latino. So Vargas being Philipino is kind of a two-fer. (The largest single contingent at the future Vargas Elementary School will likely be Indians.)

    The comments under that sfgate article are overwhelmingly unfavorable. Can’t be long before sfgate joins 95% of other onlune news sites and ends comments…

    • Replies: @Alden
    @International Jew

    I’ve noticed that the street and school names often get changed just before a new immigrant wave moves in and the name no longer represents the ethnicity of the students and residents.

  71. @Charles Pewitt
    @bored identity

    I am familiar with the 4 tine pitchfork and the pitchfork with 8 or more tines.

    The 4 tine pitchfork spreads hay and straw and the one with 8 or more tines picks the horse manure out of the straw.

    Some people claim that pitchforks can be used for political purposes.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    Some people claim that pitchforks can be used for political purposes.

    Indeed they can.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @ben tillman

    And who better to say so than you, Ben.

  72. @Paleo Liberal
    Some of you may wonder why I continue to vote for the Democratic Party.

    Consider, the congressman from my district, (Mark Pocan, D-Madison, Wisconsin) is the poster child for why millions of people are turning away from the Democratic Party.

    https://splinternews.com/a-democratic-congressman-is-introducing-a-bill-to-aboli-1827109773

    And then, in the district right next to ours, the GOP congressman is Paul Ryan.

    In other words, do I want my toenails pulled out with Mark Pocan, or do I want my fingernails AND toenails pulled out with Paul Ryan?

    I'll stick with the Democrats until the Wisconsin GOP cleans up its act. Sorry if that offends anyone.


    (To be fair, sometimes I can't bring myself to vote for Pocan. I know he has a 100% chance of winning, so sometimes I vote against him just because I can without fear of a Ryan clone winning.)

    Replies: @Olorin, @MBlanc46

    I’ll stick with the Democrats until the Wisconsin GOP cleans up its act. Sorry if that offends anyone.

    Youse cheezers used to do better than vacillating between the two wings of the UniParty. ;D

    Pocan–does he still live on that half-million-dollar three-acre spread outside 95.8% white Black Earth? Easy not to care about ICE when your townlet of residence has something like 17 Hispanics total.

    http://www.city-data.com/city/Black-Earth-Wisconsin.html

    Or is it 97.9% white Vermont, Wisconsin, with 6 Hispanics?

    http://www.city-data.com/city/Vermont-Wisconsin.html

    Pocan had some sort of major heart surgery, didn’t he? (A contact was in Mad General at the same time last year and passed this along.) Anybody being groomed as his Rainbow successor? Assuming that Second’s House seat now a sinecure for the Rainbow Flag Candidate du Jour.

    Your voting strategy sounds sensible to me. I remember when Petey Ryan, the up and coming junior political striver and Jack Kemp protegee, was literally carrying canapes at GOP fundraisers.

    I mean, at least Pocan owned a print shop…which appears to be still operating.

    Ryan has never had a real job. The year he drafted press releases for his family’s construction company doesn’t count. He’s always been part of the political access/patronage class. To think of him lecturing the rest of us about where best to get our labor force is endurable only with old-fashioned-glassesful of satiric humor.

  73. @Alfa158
    I thought junk bond king Michael Milken was the inspiration for Gordon Gekko? Getty wasn't active in Wall Street trading until long after the movie and didn't do anything like what was depicted in the movie. As far as I can see from Wikipedia, Getty's biggest talent is musical composition. He was worth $2B after his inheritance and today, decades later after market run-ups, is still worth the same amount, so he is about as big a market shark as I am.
    To paraphrase Marx (G. Marx): "look at me; when I first started investing in the market I didn't have a nickel in my pocket. Now I have a nickel in my pocket."

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Tom Wilkes

    (((Investors))) make money from investors.

  74. @ben tillman
    @Charles Pewitt


    Some people claim that pitchforks can be used for political purposes.
     
    Indeed they can.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    And who better to say so than you, Ben.

  75. @Paleo Liberal
    Some of you may wonder why I continue to vote for the Democratic Party.

    Consider, the congressman from my district, (Mark Pocan, D-Madison, Wisconsin) is the poster child for why millions of people are turning away from the Democratic Party.

    https://splinternews.com/a-democratic-congressman-is-introducing-a-bill-to-aboli-1827109773

    And then, in the district right next to ours, the GOP congressman is Paul Ryan.

    In other words, do I want my toenails pulled out with Mark Pocan, or do I want my fingernails AND toenails pulled out with Paul Ryan?

    I'll stick with the Democrats until the Wisconsin GOP cleans up its act. Sorry if that offends anyone.


    (To be fair, sometimes I can't bring myself to vote for Pocan. I know he has a 100% chance of winning, so sometimes I vote against him just because I can without fear of a Ryan clone winning.)

    Replies: @Olorin, @MBlanc46

    Participating in the Dem-Repub charade simply perpetuates it.

  76. Excuse me, when did Justin Trudeau ever not resemble a commoner?

  77. @Olorin
    @donut

    You mean POTUS? Or DJT?

    If POTUS, that's just another bit of acronymizing. Shortcutting.

    If DJT, there's no need to spell out the name of a man whose very silhouette is as recognizable as that of Washington or Lincoln--as we used to cut them out of black construction paper in 1st grade in the days before they, and not a Communist degenerate plagiarist preacher, had named national holidays.

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rZPhWRhzGaA/maxresdefault.jpg

    Not sure that reflects on "the Republic" at all. JFK was called that back in the day, ditto DDE.

    Replies: @donut, @donut

    No ,

  78. @IHTG
    More guest workers in exchange for E-Verify and less greencards - or arguably just for E-Verify - is probably worth it though.

    Replies: @Anon, @Lot, @Achmed E. Newman, @AnotherDad, @Alden

    So how are you going to force employers, especially the non White turd world immigrant employers to use E verify?

    A commissar in every garage sweat shop and restaurant?

  79. @Reg Cæsar
    @t


    OT Chicago to rename Congress parkway
     
    How did it get its original name? Were people dogging in the grassy median strip?

    The semicircle in front of the Minnesota State Capitol, which is neither an avenue nor a boulevard generically, was renamed Rev Dr Martin Luther King Jr Boulevard, from Constitution Avenue.

    I thought, what a tell.

    Replies: @t, @Alden

    The capital is in St Paul,. Isn’t St Paul the ghetto of Minnesota? So it’s appropriate.

  80. @AnonAnon
    @Clifford Brown


    Regardless, Mayor Garcetti is an impressive guy with a great demeanor.
     
    Do you live in LA or even the LA region? I don't think anyone is impressed with Garcetti. He might look nice in suits but that's about it, he's pretty much a non-entity. The big AM drive-time talk radio show calls him "Mayor Yoga Pants", which tells you all you need to know about him.

    Replies: @Alden

    At least he’s not a publicity hound like Villagrosa. Remember all those pictures of Villagross reading to little Hispanic kids?

  81. @International Jew
    @Steve Sailer

    Of the kiddies who will attend that school, more will be Chinese, than Latino. So Vargas being Philipino is kind of a two-fer. (The largest single contingent at the future Vargas Elementary School will likely be Indians.)

    The comments under that sfgate article are overwhelmingly unfavorable. Can't be long before sfgate joins 95% of other onlune news sites and ends comments...

    Replies: @Alden

    I’ve noticed that the street and school names often get changed just before a new immigrant wave moves in and the name no longer represents the ethnicity of the students and residents.

  82. @Olorin
    @donut

    You mean POTUS? Or DJT?

    If POTUS, that's just another bit of acronymizing. Shortcutting.

    If DJT, there's no need to spell out the name of a man whose very silhouette is as recognizable as that of Washington or Lincoln--as we used to cut them out of black construction paper in 1st grade in the days before they, and not a Communist degenerate plagiarist preacher, had named national holidays.

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rZPhWRhzGaA/maxresdefault.jpg

    Not sure that reflects on "the Republic" at all. JFK was called that back in the day, ditto DDE.

    Replies: @donut, @donut

    No . I was thinking that the first president that I know of who was commonly referred to by his initials : Teddy Roosevelt was TR . Then FDR , JFK , RMN , ETC. That sort of thing .

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