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The top story on NYTimes.com:

Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as Over 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

For the fourth time in five months, the number of migrant families crossing the southwest border has broken records, the authorities said.

They warned that government facilities were full and that agents were overwhelmed.
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  1. If from the NYT (and I saw something about it on TV tonight), it makes you wonder what the ultimate goal of the coverage is? Is it, it makes lefties look bad, so let Donald do something about it now, tamp down the publicity, and we can let off border security once our guy gets in in 2020; or is honest reporting? I highly doubt it’s the latter. It may be something else, but it’s not the second one.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    They are probably doing it to rub our noses in the fact that the border is still not secure, and most likely won't be. It could drive a wedge between Trump and enough of his core supporters to cost him in 2020.

    Given that Trump reads the NY Times religiously, let's hope he sees this and can put two-and-two together.

    , @El Dato

    The main problem is not one of uncontrolled masses scaling the fences, but a humanitarian challenge created as thousands [hundred of thousands] of migrant families surge into remote areas where the administration has so far failed to devote sufficient resources to care for them, as is required under the law.
     
    Because sufficient resources, including manpower, medical attention and vaccines, come from an infinite-inside super-IKEA warehouse in the plains, whereas the uncontrolled mass flow will quickly subside as the migratory fever burns itself out and prophylactics take effect.

    OT:

    American Civil War 2: US media will have only itself to blame if all hell breaks loose

    With a level of audacity and self-righteousness that has become a trademark of the Left, not once did the article float the possibility that just maybe the mainstream media is complicit in the ongoing deterioration of political discourse, or that the Democrats are just as much to blame as the Republicans for the political fallout that now presents a grave risk to the Republic.
     
    , @Charles Pewitt
    The corporate media is trying to split the GOP on immigration, and Trumpy is helping them.

    Just like some mischievous dopes are having fun with the cat scratch fever of the Coalition of the Fringes, the corporate media is also having fun driving a wedge between Trump/donors and patriotic voters. The voters will reject Trump's treasonous embrace of mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    Trump pushes nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and illegal immigration and REFUGEE OVERLOAD and amnesty for illegal alien invaders and the guest worker foreigner scam and the various visa foreigner scams.

    I'm mulling over a challenge to Trump in the 2020 GOP presidential primary.
    , @snorlax
    Gloating.
  2. • Agree: Lot
    • Replies: @eah
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D07Vu_fXgAEKXWO.png
    , @International Jew
    Hmm. Were the immigrants tested in their native language, or in English? If it was in English, then this is stupid. Educated immigrants are bound improve their English, sometimes dramatically.

    This reminds me of the 1920s tests that found Jews to be a low-IQ population.

    , @Anonymous
    Repost: "'Heredity racist" Jason Richwine published this week a report, meant to prove that immigrant groups "with a college or advanced degree are scoring the same on standardized literacy tests as native-born Americans with just a high-school diploma" (per his Twitter). Apparently, this is all too similar to his Harvard PhD dissertation where he "proved" that illegal Hispanic immigrants have substandard IQ. Back then, he claimed that low IQ persists over generation, as if illegal immigration is a genetic event. Ten years later, he claims that even immigrants with US degrees are inferior ("one in six foreign-degree holders score below basic in numeracy", per his report).

    His tables are somewhat confusing. US natives scores are listed as bachelors, advanced degrees, and overall average of above-high school. But immigrants are listed only as "all above above-high school" and "BSc only". This "apples vs oranges" allowed Richwine "prove" his point. For example, the numeracy score for all US natives with college degree or higher is 296 on a OECD-sanctioned numeracy test, whereas immigrants with US degrees in the same category scored 292, and immigrants with foreign degrees scored only 273. Similarly, bachelors-only scored higher if they were US natives.

    I calculated the missing data point, that is, the comparison of advanced degrees holders. Turns out, in this group, native US participants scored 301, but immigrants with an US degree scored 308. Now, more than half of the "immigrants with an US degree" turned out to have an advanced degree, so, if the study population is representative, it's probably the group you'd want to highlight. I'd like to blame Richwine's omission on second-class numeracy, but, based on his putative high literacy, I'd rather go for blatant cherry picking. "
  3. They warned that government facilities were full and that agents were overwhelmed.

    I’m guessing that on the sunnier side of the border, government facilities have ample vacancies, and agents are looking for something to do.

  4. Anonymous[778] • Disclaimer says:

    Breitbart (plus some stuff from Washington Times) has been carrying the ball on this issue with mostly silence everywhere else…. until today. And then NYT comes out with this article!? Are they trying to force Trump to actually act on the emergency? Do something rational like close the border? We all know Trump doesn’t want to actually stop the chaos.

    Trump obviously capitulated on the immigration issue. It’s over.

    But an amazing press conference on CSPAN today by the Border Patrol guy….. too bad they’ve been abandoned by Trump. He has no intention of doing anything but assorted amnesties. He kicked the wall funding to SCOTUS as a way to kill the wall and pass the blame at the same time. Trump knows John Roberts will put the wall in the boneyard.

    • Agree: Liza
  5. @South Texas Guy
    If from the NYT (and I saw something about it on TV tonight), it makes you wonder what the ultimate goal of the coverage is? Is it, it makes lefties look bad, so let Donald do something about it now, tamp down the publicity, and we can let off border security once our guy gets in in 2020; or is honest reporting? I highly doubt it's the latter. It may be something else, but it's not the second one.

    They are probably doing it to rub our noses in the fact that the border is still not secure, and most likely won’t be. It could drive a wedge between Trump and enough of his core supporters to cost him in 2020.

    Given that Trump reads the NY Times religiously, let’s hope he sees this and can put two-and-two together.

    • Replies: @Thirdtwin
    "They are probably doing it to rub our noses in the fact that the border is still not secure..."

    The fact that they are quick to point out that these refugees/migrant/whatevers are being released into our hinterlands with govt financial support tells me you are dead on.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Given that Trump reads the NY Times religiously, let’s hope he sees this and can put two-and-two together.
     
    I have seriously come to doubt whether Trump can put one-and-one together.
    , @Issac
    Correct. He is losing his base to grab at moderates who won't bite. They know it, everyone but boomercons know it. The end will be very amusing to watch.
  6. The number of migrant families crossing the southwest border has once again broken records, with unauthorized entries nearly doubling what they were a year ago, suggesting that the Trump administration’s aggressive policies have not discouraged new migration to the United States.

    Note the language: all of the “aggression” is on the part of a country seeking to keep non-citizens from entering illegally. The people entering that country illegally are portrayed as entering peacefully.

    This is f***ing insanity.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Known Fact
    "Families," like "children," is always a good word to justify anything and everything.

    Meanwhile, a commenter on Breitbart predicted that even the word "border" will be quietly phased out in favor of neutral terms such as "boundary." The media will quietly creep away from the concept of one sovereign entity physically beginning and another ending.
    , @AnotherDad

    This is f***ing insanity.
     
    Not really.

    It's insane by the standards of "what's best for a people? or nation?" logical reasoning.

    But it's standard issue Jewish ideology. Not insane at all, if you believe you're entitled to middle-man everywhere and anywhere and feel more comfortable with state enforced diversity, rather than a coherent native population that might find your behavior annoying or organize in its own interests.

    Nor insane from the perspective of de-racinated globalist oligarchs like Bezos, who likewise want to operate without any popular pushback. (Of course, it is insane from the perspective of their long term genetic interest--the health of the nation their descendents, who generations out won't be rich oligarchs, will live in.)

    Nor insane from the perspective of the "state party"--in our case Democrat--apparatchiks, for whom diversity creates inevitable conflict and ergo lots of state intervention and management and best of all destroys a coherent national people, and creates of jumble of random tribes and atomized individuals incapable of pushing back against state power.


    These people aren't insane. Their self-interest is national destruction and they prioritize their self-interest over the existence--and happiness, prosperity and survival--of nations. These people aren't insane, they are evil.

  7. Anon[102] • Disclaimer says:

    “CAN’T THEY SEE IT’S REALLY AN EMERGENCY!?”

    Think of it from the Times’s point of view. If for whatever reason (humanitarian, population replacement, labor needs) you believe in semi-open, porous borders, then anything that short circuits or overwhelms the processes in place to regulate the border is a good thing.

    In the back of their minds, however, they have to be thinking, Do the optics of this help keep Trump in office for an extra term, complete with judicial appointments during that term?

    Prediction: The Supreme Court is going too get bigger when the Democrats take over.

    • Replies: @Issac
    Why would you bother to stack a court full of conservatives who conserve nothing? Just apply minimal pressure and watch them all rule like RGB.
  8. They warned that government facilities were full and that agents were overwhelmed.

    The solution for this is obvious: to these thousands
    of third-world migrants, add millions more.

  9. Anonymous[778] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump went full Machiavelli on the immigration issue. All the proof you need is in the CPAC speech and on his twitter feed. It’s essentially a Jeb Bush immigration policy now.

    • Replies: @Lot
    I am not happy with Trump on immigration, but I don’t think you realize how bad Jeb Bush would have been.

    Mass migration was worse under W than any other president, but Jeb is a “trans-racial” fanatic
  10. Anon[102] • Disclaimer says:

    Whiteshift has a ton of data on this stuff, and I was surprised to learn that Mexican immigration is low, at 1970s rates now, and with more returning than coming.

    However, Central American border jumpers are taking up the slack. Still, overall the numbers are not historically high.

    The problem is more demographic momentum, and it would be more useful to kick out the millions of illegals here already, or rather, set things up for them to “self deport.” The kids are citizens though, so I guess the damage is done, unless Trump expresses his inner Hitler and denaturalizes the children born here, and forces Mexico to take them.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    Still, overall the numbers are not historically high.

    76,000 illegals in a month (a rate of 912,000 illegals annually) = not historically high? Ok.

    The kids are citizens though, so I guess the damage is done, unless Trump expresses his inner Hitler and denaturalizes the children born here, and forces Mexico to take them.

    Hitler murdered legal citizens of his own country. He murdered legal citizens of neighboring countries. Trump wouldn't be murdering anyone. He would be safely repatriating people with no legal right to be here, or with a right to be here that is based on a dishonest interpretation of the 14th Amendment.

    But somehow that would make him Hitler.

    How about Trump express his inner Eisenhower - implementer of Operation Wetback; or his inner Chester Arthur - U.S. president, former Union general, and signer of the Chinese Exclusion Act? Not a couple of bad acts to follow, those two.

  11. The good news is that if you open up the comment thread and look at reader picks the most popular comments are overwhelmingly pro-enforcement. There are a few top comments against border security, but the best any of them can do is question the numbers of migrants entering the country, despite the fact the NYT cites several sources (not just Trump Admin sources) for the soaring numbers.

  12. @Anon
    Whiteshift has a ton of data on this stuff, and I was surprised to learn that Mexican immigration is low, at 1970s rates now, and with more returning than coming.

    However, Central American border jumpers are taking up the slack. Still, overall the numbers are not historically high.

    The problem is more demographic momentum, and it would be more useful to kick out the millions of illegals here already, or rather, set things up for them to "self deport." The kids are citizens though, so I guess the damage is done, unless Trump expresses his inner Hitler and denaturalizes the children born here, and forces Mexico to take them.

    Still, overall the numbers are not historically high.

    76,000 illegals in a month (a rate of 912,000 illegals annually) = not historically high? Ok.

    The kids are citizens though, so I guess the damage is done, unless Trump expresses his inner Hitler and denaturalizes the children born here, and forces Mexico to take them.

    Hitler murdered legal citizens of his own country. He murdered legal citizens of neighboring countries. Trump wouldn’t be murdering anyone. He would be safely repatriating people with no legal right to be here, or with a right to be here that is based on a dishonest interpretation of the 14th Amendment.

    But somehow that would make him Hitler.

    How about Trump express his inner Eisenhower – implementer of Operation Wetback; or his inner Chester Arthur – U.S. president, former Union general, and signer of the Chinese Exclusion Act? Not a couple of bad acts to follow, those two.

    • Agree: The Anti-Gnostic
    • Replies: @Anon
    By "inner Hitler" I'm simply saying that Trump needs thicker skin to stand of to "You monster!" reactions to deportations of non criminal illegals, and he needs to generate a bit of a constitutional crisis by, uh, neutralizing the courts, who would stop any attempt at nullifying citizenship. He needs Bannon and Sessions and more.

    76,000 illegals in a month (a rate of 912,000 illegals annually) = not historically high? Ok.
     
    Kaufmann's numbers are from the US Border Patrol (or whatever they're called now) from 1960 through 2016. The number you gave probably came from 2006. It's half of that in 2016, and looking at just Mexicans, about a quarter, since in 2016 illegals were only half Mexican and half other (mostly Central American).

    Here, I uploaded a screen cap of the whole graph here:

    https://ibb.co/5LzXHny
  13. And yet Rand Paul and the other GOP eccentrics and Chamber of Commerce shills have mustered enough votes to stymie Trump’s declaration that this is an ‘Emergency.’

    If anything, Trump understated the situation. It is a Bum Rush on the Border, an invasion by any other name.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna

    Trump understated the situation. It is a Bum Rush on the Border, an invasion by any other name.
     
    The protest is often made: If it's an invasion, where are their weapons?

    To which I reply: They don't need weapons.
    , @Lot
    “And yet Rand Paul and the other GOP eccentrics and Chamber of Commerce shills have mustered enough votes to stymie Trump’s declaration that this is an ‘Emergency.’”

    Rand Paul, favorite Senator of the “countersemites” for so standing up for Islam and green-hair campus BDSers, now joins the Democrat minority in the Senate to try to block the wall.

    So brave, so courageous!

    75,000 illegals rushing the border Syrian-in-Germany Style: No Emergency For Rand. But Obama droning some Al Qaedas in Yemen: there Rand draws the line.
  14. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    And yet Rand Paul and the other GOP eccentrics and Chamber of Commerce shills have mustered enough votes to stymie Trump's declaration that this is an 'Emergency.'

    If anything, Trump understated the situation. It is a Bum Rush on the Border, an invasion by any other name.

    Trump understated the situation. It is a Bum Rush on the Border, an invasion by any other name.

    The protest is often made: If it’s an invasion, where are their weapons?

    To which I reply: They don’t need weapons.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    Just add adjectives. It's what's done.

    Military invasion: A small group of people with weapons.
    Demographic invasion: A large group of people without weapons.
    , @Redneck farmer
    What did the Palestinians used to say? Something about our wombs are our greatest weapon?
    , @donut
    "They don’t need weapons." They've got Trump .
    , @Mr. Anon

    The protest is often made: If it’s an invasion, where are their weapons?

    To which I reply: They don’t need weapons.
     
    Aye. Their numbers are their weapons.
    , @Lurker
    Its all talmudic hairsplitting bullshit. Apparently to be an 'invasion' the 'invaders' must be:

    a) Armed.

    b) In uniform.

    c) Employees of a national government.

    d) White.

    e) Men. (Despite the constant rhetoric about women in the military, when it comes to poor brown folks the presence of women in their numbers proves they are not invaders)
    , @Reg Cæsar

    The protest is often made: If it’s an invasion, where are their weapons?
     
    Uteri.
    , @ben tillman

    The protest is often made: If it’s an invasion, where are their weapons?
     
    In the hands of their sponsors in the US government who threaten to shoot those who would protect our border.

    Hell, yes, it is an invasion,. and it is indeed an armed invasion.
  15. Anonymous[778] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump is directly responsible for the rush at the border.

    In the past he promised to end DACA and then reneged. That sent a big fat bat signal in the sky to all of central america!

    Now he encourages the asylum seekers with twitter comments about how no serious deportations of illegals will occur! Another message sent!

    He has also alluded to a future much bigger amnesty deal! WTF? Message sent!

    Also he blurts out that he wants record levels of legal immigration at the state of the union address! Technically asylum seeking is a form of legal immigration. Message sent!

    It was mostly a sinister neocon takeover on display at CPAC …. directed by Trump and his people. They staged the crowd chants to make it sound like the “conservatives” want mass immigration. Message sent!

    Trump won’t shut up about how we need to bring in new foreign workers for all of the new jobs that his booming economy is creating. Message sent!

    Etc.

    • Replies: @Bill H
    "In the past he promised to end DACA and then reneged."

    Not really. He did issue an executive order bringing an end to DACA. Then the court said that an executive order issued by a Democratic president could not be reversed by a Republican president.

    Well, the court's actual wording was to the effect that Trump, "had not shown sufficient reason for the action," but...
  16. In tbe early 1770’s, there began to be a shift from passively complaining about lies and mendacity against our people, our American Nation, into conversations about what actions to take.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  17. Can we classify Mexico as an enemy country?

    • Replies: @Dr. X

    Can we classify Mexico as an enemy country?
     
    Better yet, let's classify Mexico as an enemy of Israel and a base for Hezbollah and Iran, with chemical weapons aimed at Tel Aviv... we'd send a half-million troops to close the border in a heartbeat!!!
    , @Hunsdon
    Absolutely not! Russia, Iran, Syria, those are obviously enemy countries----look at all the suffering and misery that Axis of, umm, Evil have caused America. But Mexico? What, you hate chalupas?
    , @EliteCommInc.
    You are a little late.


    And no kidding.
  18. Of course, their own “obvious” answer is, open the borders and let them all in.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    This is that old Obama line that, garsh, it's all so difficult, why should we even try? Obama justified every abdication with this. They never say this at tax time, or when they talk about gun confiscation.
  19. Of course, their own “obvious” answer is, open the borders and let them all in.

  20. @eah
    https://twitter.com/CIS_org/status/1102949478015926272

  21. @South Texas Guy
    If from the NYT (and I saw something about it on TV tonight), it makes you wonder what the ultimate goal of the coverage is? Is it, it makes lefties look bad, so let Donald do something about it now, tamp down the publicity, and we can let off border security once our guy gets in in 2020; or is honest reporting? I highly doubt it's the latter. It may be something else, but it's not the second one.

    The main problem is not one of uncontrolled masses scaling the fences, but a humanitarian challenge created as thousands [hundred of thousands] of migrant families surge into remote areas where the administration has so far failed to devote sufficient resources to care for them, as is required under the law.

    Because sufficient resources, including manpower, medical attention and vaccines, come from an infinite-inside super-IKEA warehouse in the plains, whereas the uncontrolled mass flow will quickly subside as the migratory fever burns itself out and prophylactics take effect.

    OT:

    American Civil War 2: US media will have only itself to blame if all hell breaks loose

    With a level of audacity and self-righteousness that has become a trademark of the Left, not once did the article float the possibility that just maybe the mainstream media is complicit in the ongoing deterioration of political discourse, or that the Democrats are just as much to blame as the Republicans for the political fallout that now presents a grave risk to the Republic.

    • Replies: @Lot
    RT is a propaganda arm of a foreign dictatorship.

    Citing it is a shameful act for an American, regardless of its particular content.

    The Russians in 2016 also spread anti-white BLM propaganda. Whatever suits their agenda.
  22. @Mr McKenna

    Trump understated the situation. It is a Bum Rush on the Border, an invasion by any other name.
     
    The protest is often made: If it's an invasion, where are their weapons?

    To which I reply: They don't need weapons.

    Just add adjectives. It’s what’s done.

    Military invasion: A small group of people with weapons.
    Demographic invasion: A large group of people without weapons.

  23. More reason in the average RT editorial than in the entire US MSM

    Donald Trump is certainly not above criticism. Far from it. But for the mainstream media to place all of the blame for the current political malaise at the Republican’s door is about as responsible as lighting up a cigarette inside of a Chinese fireworks factory. The US media has an unmistakable agenda, and that is to make damn sure Trump is not reelected to another term in 2020. To that end, it has shown a devious willingness to betray all journalistic ethics and standards, which has the effect of increasing the political temperature to boiling point. It then points the finger of blame at the political right for the accumulated pile of pent-up tensions, which are ready to ignite at the first spark.

    If the mainstream media continues to slavishly serve just one political master over another, it will only have itself to blame for what comes next. Its prejudiced and agenda-based reporting is a disgrace and really nothing short of a bona fide national security threat.

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/453062-new-us-civil-war/

    ETA: Oh hi El Dato! What a great mind you have!

    • Replies: @El Dato

    ETA: Oh hi El Dato! What a great mind you have!
     
    Thanks - but it's just standard issue really.
  24. One of the issues an American abroad faces after a couple decades is whether or not to let go of US citizenship. It used to be something special, something to be earned by those not fortunate to be born into it from legally resident parents already subject to the jurisdiction of the US.

    Now it seems that all the benefits of being a US citizen are just given away to every person and family that can plant itself in the country and have a kid or have sent a kid who lands an H1B and stays for the magic time to bring them in. Meanwhile the America abroad is told under penalties of perjury and law to keep disclosing all his banking info and filing and paying taxes above and beyond what the host country demands that treaty credits won’t cover. What used to be a hard decision is getting easier.

    You might not lose just my vote, Mr. President … you might also lose me as a revenue stream.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    The US is just a tax farm at this point.
    , @donut
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh8hvy1hq9k
    , @Achmed E. Newman

    You might not lose just my vote, Mr. President … you might also lose me as a revenue stream.
     
    Nobody cares anymore on this end. They're borrowing money at < 2% interest. It's a steal, man! (How will we pay it back? Quit asking those pesky, wonky questions! I'm a big-picture guy.)
  25. @Mr McKenna
    More reason in the average RT editorial than in the entire US MSM

    Donald Trump is certainly not above criticism. Far from it. But for the mainstream media to place all of the blame for the current political malaise at the Republican’s door is about as responsible as lighting up a cigarette inside of a Chinese fireworks factory. The US media has an unmistakable agenda, and that is to make damn sure Trump is not reelected to another term in 2020. To that end, it has shown a devious willingness to betray all journalistic ethics and standards, which has the effect of increasing the political temperature to boiling point. It then points the finger of blame at the political right for the accumulated pile of pent-up tensions, which are ready to ignite at the first spark.

    If the mainstream media continues to slavishly serve just one political master over another, it will only have itself to blame for what comes next. Its prejudiced and agenda-based reporting is a disgrace and really nothing short of a bona fide national security threat.

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/453062-new-us-civil-war/

     

    ETA: Oh hi El Dato! What a great mind you have!

    ETA: Oh hi El Dato! What a great mind you have!

    Thanks – but it’s just standard issue really.

  26. @Anonymous
    Trump went full Machiavelli on the immigration issue. All the proof you need is in the CPAC speech and on his twitter feed. It's essentially a Jeb Bush immigration policy now.

    I am not happy with Trump on immigration, but I don’t think you realize how bad Jeb Bush would have been.

    Mass migration was worse under W than any other president, but Jeb is a “trans-racial” fanatic

    • Agree: Travis, bomag
    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    Yes. George W. Bush talked about how much he loved Mexicans, but Jeb Bush went ahead and *married* one. He *mated* with one.

    However disappointing Trump has been, Jeb would have been a hundred times worse. Hillary would have been a hundred thousand times worse.
  27. @El Dato

    The main problem is not one of uncontrolled masses scaling the fences, but a humanitarian challenge created as thousands [hundred of thousands] of migrant families surge into remote areas where the administration has so far failed to devote sufficient resources to care for them, as is required under the law.
     
    Because sufficient resources, including manpower, medical attention and vaccines, come from an infinite-inside super-IKEA warehouse in the plains, whereas the uncontrolled mass flow will quickly subside as the migratory fever burns itself out and prophylactics take effect.

    OT:

    American Civil War 2: US media will have only itself to blame if all hell breaks loose

    With a level of audacity and self-righteousness that has become a trademark of the Left, not once did the article float the possibility that just maybe the mainstream media is complicit in the ongoing deterioration of political discourse, or that the Democrats are just as much to blame as the Republicans for the political fallout that now presents a grave risk to the Republic.
     

    RT is a propaganda arm of a foreign dictatorship.

    Citing it is a shameful act for an American, regardless of its particular content.

    The Russians in 2016 also spread anti-white BLM propaganda. Whatever suits their agenda.

    • Disagree: Anon1
    • LOL: Cloudbuster, JMcG
    • Replies: @Trevor H.
    There there, Hillary. Let's have a nice lie-down shall we? The nurse will be along soon with your ketamine injection.
    , @Almost Missouri
    How would you characterize citing the NYT, etc.?
    , @Mr. Anon

    RT is a propaganda arm of a foreign dictatorship.
     
    American media is the propaganda arm of a domestic one.

    Citing it is a shameful act for an American, regardless of its particular content.
     
    Bullshit. Citing RT is no different than citing the BBC or the Jerusalem Post.

    Police yourself if you like. Don't presume to police the rest of us.
    , @William Badwhite
    Russia is not a "dictatorship". Precision in language is important.

    As an aside, the NYT is a propaganda arm of hostile aliens.
    , @Lurker
    It's very hard to tease out the Russian propaganda because the MSM purveys anti-US, anti-white, anti-western, anti-Christian propaganda 24/7 already. Its almost as if the media were already in the hands of hostile parties.
    , @Lowe
    Haha, okay.
    , @J.Ross
    I'll stop paying attention to RT, Sputnik, etc, when they're no longer objectively superior to the US lyingpress. As for any source you could cite having a bias which must be taken into account, well, duh, but some sources actually have useful information some of the time, and NPR is a kaffeeklatsch of cat ladies and catamites caturwalling capriciously.
    , @Anon1
    I bet you're Israeli Hasbara.
    , @IC8
    "You can't trust them foreigners!" says the guy who shills for Israel at every possible opportunity. The chutzpah of you people is incredible.
  28. Lot says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose
    And yet Rand Paul and the other GOP eccentrics and Chamber of Commerce shills have mustered enough votes to stymie Trump's declaration that this is an 'Emergency.'

    If anything, Trump understated the situation. It is a Bum Rush on the Border, an invasion by any other name.

    “And yet Rand Paul and the other GOP eccentrics and Chamber of Commerce shills have mustered enough votes to stymie Trump’s declaration that this is an ‘Emergency.’”

    Rand Paul, favorite Senator of the “countersemites” for so standing up for Islam and green-hair campus BDSers, now joins the Democrat minority in the Senate to try to block the wall.

    So brave, so courageous!

    75,000 illegals rushing the border Syrian-in-Germany Style: No Emergency For Rand. But Obama droning some Al Qaedas in Yemen: there Rand draws the line.

    • Replies: @Clyde

    75,000 illegals rushing the border Syrian-in-Germany Style: No Emergency For Rand. But Obama droning some Al Qaedas in Yemen: there Rand draws the line.
     
    Germany/Europe got invaded by asylum seekers in 2015. Now we are getting the same asylum seeker invasion. The German invasion was 90% or so male. What we are getting with the Central Americans are women with children and ready to make more babies. Anchor babies.
    European and America asylum laws are so outdated. Yet you never hear any talk of Congress passing better laws to tighten up on asylum. Obviously, not even before The Dems took over The House.
    , @Achmed E. Newman

    75,000 illegals rushing the border Syrian-in-Germany Style: No Emergency For Rand. But Obama droning some Al Qaedas in Yemen: there Rand draws the line.
     
    Those two things are not at all inconsistent, Lot. However, the Republic is long gone, and the conservatives can't keep playing whiffleball while the ctrl-left plays hardball. Both Dr. Pauls would have been great to have around (and cloned 50X) in the Congress as recently as 25 years ago. Now, it's too late for some of what they're selling.
    , @Mr. Anon
    Nice move there - turning your objection to Paul to your own parochial issues.

    I don't give a f**k about BDS. I certainly don't think it should be illegal. Attempts to make it so, like those of Norman Brahman's cabana-boy, Marco Rubio, are clear violations of the 1st amendment.

    If you want to ban political boycotts, you should make Aliyah and go ban them in your homeland.
  29. @Lot
    RT is a propaganda arm of a foreign dictatorship.

    Citing it is a shameful act for an American, regardless of its particular content.

    The Russians in 2016 also spread anti-white BLM propaganda. Whatever suits their agenda.

    There there, Hillary. Let’s have a nice lie-down shall we? The nurse will be along soon with your ketamine injection.

  30. @Mr McKenna

    Trump understated the situation. It is a Bum Rush on the Border, an invasion by any other name.
     
    The protest is often made: If it's an invasion, where are their weapons?

    To which I reply: They don't need weapons.

    What did the Palestinians used to say? Something about our wombs are our greatest weapon?

  31. @Mr McKenna

    Trump understated the situation. It is a Bum Rush on the Border, an invasion by any other name.
     
    The protest is often made: If it's an invasion, where are their weapons?

    To which I reply: They don't need weapons.

    “They don’t need weapons.” They’ve got Trump .

  32. Most Central American invaders are huddled in the Tijuana area……
    One new tactic is to take one or two hundred Central Americans on buses and take them to a remote area where there is no border fencing. The New Mexico border is good for this. They walk across into the USA. Then get the Border Patrol on the phone to tell them — “Pick us up for asylum processing”

    This seems very well organized by Mexican drug cartels

  33. @Lot
    “And yet Rand Paul and the other GOP eccentrics and Chamber of Commerce shills have mustered enough votes to stymie Trump’s declaration that this is an ‘Emergency.’”

    Rand Paul, favorite Senator of the “countersemites” for so standing up for Islam and green-hair campus BDSers, now joins the Democrat minority in the Senate to try to block the wall.

    So brave, so courageous!

    75,000 illegals rushing the border Syrian-in-Germany Style: No Emergency For Rand. But Obama droning some Al Qaedas in Yemen: there Rand draws the line.

    75,000 illegals rushing the border Syrian-in-Germany Style: No Emergency For Rand. But Obama droning some Al Qaedas in Yemen: there Rand draws the line.

    Germany/Europe got invaded by asylum seekers in 2015. Now we are getting the same asylum seeker invasion. The German invasion was 90% or so male. What we are getting with the Central Americans are women with children and ready to make more babies. Anchor babies.
    European and America asylum laws are so outdated. Yet you never hear any talk of Congress passing better laws to tighten up on asylum. Obviously, not even before The Dems took over The House.

  34. @Lot
    RT is a propaganda arm of a foreign dictatorship.

    Citing it is a shameful act for an American, regardless of its particular content.

    The Russians in 2016 also spread anti-white BLM propaganda. Whatever suits their agenda.

    How would you characterize citing the NYT, etc.?

    • Agree: Desiderius
  35. @Foreign Expert
    Can we classify Mexico as an enemy country?

    Can we classify Mexico as an enemy country?

    Better yet, let’s classify Mexico as an enemy of Israel and a base for Hezbollah and Iran, with chemical weapons aimed at Tel Aviv… we’d send a half-million troops to close the border in a heartbeat!!!

  36. The Washington Post has the same news, but not as a headline item. Also, their take is slightly different.

    Family migration, already at record levels, rocketed to new high in February

    Last month, the shortest of the year, was the busiest February at the border since 2007, officials said, with authorities detaining 76,103 migrants, up from 58,207 in January.

    The percentage of migrants who arrived as part of a family group also reached a new peak, with 40,325 parents and children taken into custody, a 67 percent leap from the previous month…

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/family-migration-already-at-record-levels-rocketed-to-new-high-in-february/2019/03/05/900b9f42-3f67-11e9-922c-64d6b7840b82_story.html?utm_term=.66c25decbf12

  37. Well, at least they’re not Irish coming in their hundreds and possibly reaching one thousand (don’t even start on the outrage of having to contend with a family of pom ((strike that)) Irish Pikies on holidays)))https://www.unz.com/isteve/paul-ryan-to-import-more-irish/

  38. Don’t fret. AOC sez that the border jumpers will stop having children soon . . . once they jump over to the Yankee side. Kamasutra Harris believes that America is a crime scene. What you have here, folks, are indigenous gangsters returning to the scene of the crime!

    Matteo Salvini, HELP!

  39. Its actually worst than you can imagine. Not only is this not stopping, the manpower issues the Border Patrol faces only grow worst as more agents across the spectrum of seniority decide to pull the pin and resign or retire, because they didn’t sign up to hand out burritos and process a never ending stream of illegals seeking “gimmedats”.

    Chief Hastings did a great job torpedoing the “but rates are down from *random point in time*!”, explaining how yeah you used to get a group of 120 Mexicans, but its easier to deport them versus these family units claiming asylum with the law and court cases tying their hands.

    Currently the convo on the Right is taken up by what? Green New Deal? Omar speaking the truth? Does AOC have the power that has been ceded to a district judge who is rewriting the law by fiat?

    Trump owns this mess.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    So you're admitting now that the "eeyores" were right all along?
  40. @The Alarmist
    One of the issues an American abroad faces after a couple decades is whether or not to let go of US citizenship. It used to be something special, something to be earned by those not fortunate to be born into it from legally resident parents already subject to the jurisdiction of the US.

    Now it seems that all the benefits of being a US citizen are just given away to every person and family that can plant itself in the country and have a kid or have sent a kid who lands an H1B and stays for the magic time to bring them in. Meanwhile the America abroad is told under penalties of perjury and law to keep disclosing all his banking info and filing and paying taxes above and beyond what the host country demands that treaty credits won't cover. What used to be a hard decision is getting easier.

    You might not lose just my vote, Mr. President ... you might also lose me as a revenue stream.

    The US is just a tax farm at this point.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  41. @The Alarmist
    One of the issues an American abroad faces after a couple decades is whether or not to let go of US citizenship. It used to be something special, something to be earned by those not fortunate to be born into it from legally resident parents already subject to the jurisdiction of the US.

    Now it seems that all the benefits of being a US citizen are just given away to every person and family that can plant itself in the country and have a kid or have sent a kid who lands an H1B and stays for the magic time to bring them in. Meanwhile the America abroad is told under penalties of perjury and law to keep disclosing all his banking info and filing and paying taxes above and beyond what the host country demands that treaty credits won't cover. What used to be a hard decision is getting easier.

    You might not lose just my vote, Mr. President ... you might also lose me as a revenue stream.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    That sounds very, very enticing, Mr. Donut, especially for a single guy. However, as I tried my best to explain to Fredrico Reedisimo, of Ole Mehico, in "Down to the Banana Republics", it's all good until the US Dollar goes down the toilet. Did you hear about the guard across the street at ~ 5 mins. in? Yeah, well, when your SS check for $1500 doesn't cover the expenses anymore, as it did in the video, he may not want to guard you anymore.

    That $2 weekly cost for the woman to do all your laundry (not in the video)? You may be the 2 dollar guy doing people's laundry. One more thing: when the SHTF, the population down in Ecuador may be quite ready for that sort of thing. You, especially you all with families, may not be ready, but more importantly, the locals may decide that you, the gringo, are to blame, no matter how many posts you've written disparaging the Federal Reserve on your blog!

    Oh, I never saw anything in the video about how many guns I can keep in these low-cost beautiful residences.
  42. @Lot
    “And yet Rand Paul and the other GOP eccentrics and Chamber of Commerce shills have mustered enough votes to stymie Trump’s declaration that this is an ‘Emergency.’”

    Rand Paul, favorite Senator of the “countersemites” for so standing up for Islam and green-hair campus BDSers, now joins the Democrat minority in the Senate to try to block the wall.

    So brave, so courageous!

    75,000 illegals rushing the border Syrian-in-Germany Style: No Emergency For Rand. But Obama droning some Al Qaedas in Yemen: there Rand draws the line.

    75,000 illegals rushing the border Syrian-in-Germany Style: No Emergency For Rand. But Obama droning some Al Qaedas in Yemen: there Rand draws the line.

    Those two things are not at all inconsistent, Lot. However, the Republic is long gone, and the conservatives can’t keep playing whiffleball while the ctrl-left plays hardball. Both Dr. Pauls would have been great to have around (and cloned 50X) in the Congress as recently as 25 years ago. Now, it’s too late for some of what they’re selling.

    • Replies: @Lot
    “Both Dr. Pauls would have been great to have around (and cloned 50X) in the Congress as recently as 25 years ago. Now, it’s too late for some of what they’re selling.”

    You could say the same about Bernie/Mondale style economic leftism. It worked fine in the 60s and 70s. It still works in Denmark.

    But in 2019 USA, formerly acceptable welfare programs like Medicaid are mostly racialized transfers from whites/NE Asian to our local third world populations.
  43. That’s just under a million a year at that rate. How is that 11 million total number holding up? Weird that. Even per our host, Ron Unz, there’s no big flow into the US, or it’s balanced by the outlows. My ass!

    However, it’s not an impossible situation if there were a political will. It’s up to the American people to create enough fear in the politicians for there to be some will. The situation doesn’t HAVE TO be as hopeless as it seems – see CPAC, gutsy Michelle Malken, and Swift Airlines. Right now, Swift Air just takes home (with radio call-sign “Repatriate”!) the worst of the worst illegal alien criminals, with ~120 to ~150 in coach class in 737’s. They have > 30 planes. Just those 30 planes (or say 25 of them operating) doing 2 round-trips daily could bring all of them back, with room to spare.

    There is absolutely no reason all these people couldn’t be sent back at a rate and thoroughness to where the rest stop bothering to come.

    Oh, lastly, I really would like to hear our Jack Hanson chime in here. You have the inside scoop, it seems, from working in this area in some capacity. We should read reports from you weekly – leave out the insults, and swallow your pride about Donald Trump.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    We have at least 22 million illegals in the US, according to a recent Yale study.

    https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/yale-study-finds-twice-as-many-undocumented-immigrants-as-previous-estimates
    , @Jack Hanson
    Look above.
  44. Anon[181] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wilkey
    Still, overall the numbers are not historically high.

    76,000 illegals in a month (a rate of 912,000 illegals annually) = not historically high? Ok.

    The kids are citizens though, so I guess the damage is done, unless Trump expresses his inner Hitler and denaturalizes the children born here, and forces Mexico to take them.

    Hitler murdered legal citizens of his own country. He murdered legal citizens of neighboring countries. Trump wouldn't be murdering anyone. He would be safely repatriating people with no legal right to be here, or with a right to be here that is based on a dishonest interpretation of the 14th Amendment.

    But somehow that would make him Hitler.

    How about Trump express his inner Eisenhower - implementer of Operation Wetback; or his inner Chester Arthur - U.S. president, former Union general, and signer of the Chinese Exclusion Act? Not a couple of bad acts to follow, those two.

    By “inner Hitler” I’m simply saying that Trump needs thicker skin to stand of to “You monster!” reactions to deportations of non criminal illegals, and he needs to generate a bit of a constitutional crisis by, uh, neutralizing the courts, who would stop any attempt at nullifying citizenship. He needs Bannon and Sessions and more.

    76,000 illegals in a month (a rate of 912,000 illegals annually) = not historically high? Ok.

    Kaufmann’s numbers are from the US Border Patrol (or whatever they’re called now) from 1960 through 2016. The number you gave probably came from 2006. It’s half of that in 2016, and looking at just Mexicans, about a quarter, since in 2016 illegals were only half Mexican and half other (mostly Central American).

    Here, I uploaded a screen cap of the whole graph here:

    https://ibb.co/5LzXHny

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    By “inner Hitler” I’m simply saying that Trump needs thicker skin
     
    Hitler had thick skin?
  45. @Foreign Expert
    Can we classify Mexico as an enemy country?

    Absolutely not! Russia, Iran, Syria, those are obviously enemy countries—-look at all the suffering and misery that Axis of, umm, Evil have caused America. But Mexico? What, you hate chalupas?

  46. @istevefan
    They are probably doing it to rub our noses in the fact that the border is still not secure, and most likely won't be. It could drive a wedge between Trump and enough of his core supporters to cost him in 2020.

    Given that Trump reads the NY Times religiously, let's hope he sees this and can put two-and-two together.

    “They are probably doing it to rub our noses in the fact that the border is still not secure…”

    The fact that they are quick to point out that these refugees/migrant/whatevers are being released into our hinterlands with govt financial support tells me you are dead on.

  47. @South Texas Guy
    If from the NYT (and I saw something about it on TV tonight), it makes you wonder what the ultimate goal of the coverage is? Is it, it makes lefties look bad, so let Donald do something about it now, tamp down the publicity, and we can let off border security once our guy gets in in 2020; or is honest reporting? I highly doubt it's the latter. It may be something else, but it's not the second one.

    The corporate media is trying to split the GOP on immigration, and Trumpy is helping them.

    Just like some mischievous dopes are having fun with the cat scratch fever of the Coalition of the Fringes, the corporate media is also having fun driving a wedge between Trump/donors and patriotic voters. The voters will reject Trump’s treasonous embrace of mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    Trump pushes nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and illegal immigration and REFUGEE OVERLOAD and amnesty for illegal alien invaders and the guest worker foreigner scam and the various visa foreigner scams.

    I’m mulling over a challenge to Trump in the 2020 GOP presidential primary.

  48. @istevefan
    They are probably doing it to rub our noses in the fact that the border is still not secure, and most likely won't be. It could drive a wedge between Trump and enough of his core supporters to cost him in 2020.

    Given that Trump reads the NY Times religiously, let's hope he sees this and can put two-and-two together.

    Given that Trump reads the NY Times religiously, let’s hope he sees this and can put two-and-two together.

    I have seriously come to doubt whether Trump can put one-and-one together.

  49. It’s a good thing I voted for Jeb Bush in 2016. As President, he has kept all his promises.

  50. @Lot
    RT is a propaganda arm of a foreign dictatorship.

    Citing it is a shameful act for an American, regardless of its particular content.

    The Russians in 2016 also spread anti-white BLM propaganda. Whatever suits their agenda.

    RT is a propaganda arm of a foreign dictatorship.

    American media is the propaganda arm of a domestic one.

    Citing it is a shameful act for an American, regardless of its particular content.

    Bullshit. Citing RT is no different than citing the BBC or the Jerusalem Post.

    Police yourself if you like. Don’t presume to police the rest of us.

  51. @Wilkey
    The number of migrant families crossing the southwest border has once again broken records, with unauthorized entries nearly doubling what they were a year ago, suggesting that the Trump administration’s aggressive policies have not discouraged new migration to the United States.

    Note the language: all of the "aggression" is on the part of a country seeking to keep non-citizens from entering illegally. The people entering that country illegally are portrayed as entering peacefully.

    This is f***ing insanity.

    “Families,” like “children,” is always a good word to justify anything and everything.

    Meanwhile, a commenter on Breitbart predicted that even the word “border” will be quietly phased out in favor of neutral terms such as “boundary.” The media will quietly creep away from the concept of one sovereign entity physically beginning and another ending.

  52. @Mr McKenna

    Trump understated the situation. It is a Bum Rush on the Border, an invasion by any other name.
     
    The protest is often made: If it's an invasion, where are their weapons?

    To which I reply: They don't need weapons.

    The protest is often made: If it’s an invasion, where are their weapons?

    To which I reply: They don’t need weapons.

    Aye. Their numbers are their weapons.

  53. Perhaps Rand Paul can head down to the border and help build refugee shelters while wearing a “Laredo Republican” T-shirt.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    No doubt Rand Paul wants to head down to the border and start registering those Central Americans as Republicans, as with his phenomenally successful African American outreach program in Detroit in 2013. He's the new Jack Kemp!

    Paul also spoke Friday about what he called a "21st-century civil rights agenda" involving education and prison reform in another attempt at reaching inner city minorities. "We need to be a more diverse party," Paul said. "If you want to win, it's just practically the only way you ever win again... "We need people in our party that don't all have ties on. We need people with tattoos. We need people without tattoos. We need people with pony tails, earrings. We need people from all different walks of life. All different colors. All different creeds. And the Democratic Party is more diverse than us. That's why they're winning more elections."
     
    https://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/2013/12/sen_rand_paul_in_detroit_repub.html
    , @South Texas Guy
    Interestingly, Laredo has the country's largest 'George Washington's Birthday' party/party. Really big deal in the town.
  54. @Lot
    “And yet Rand Paul and the other GOP eccentrics and Chamber of Commerce shills have mustered enough votes to stymie Trump’s declaration that this is an ‘Emergency.’”

    Rand Paul, favorite Senator of the “countersemites” for so standing up for Islam and green-hair campus BDSers, now joins the Democrat minority in the Senate to try to block the wall.

    So brave, so courageous!

    75,000 illegals rushing the border Syrian-in-Germany Style: No Emergency For Rand. But Obama droning some Al Qaedas in Yemen: there Rand draws the line.

    Nice move there – turning your objection to Paul to your own parochial issues.

    I don’t give a f**k about BDS. I certainly don’t think it should be illegal. Attempts to make it so, like those of Norman Brahman’s cabana-boy, Marco Rubio, are clear violations of the 1st amendment.

    If you want to ban political boycotts, you should make Aliyah and go ban them in your homeland.

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
    "Nice move there – turning your objection to Paul to your own parochial issues."

    Wow, it's almost as if you're on to his game there.

  55. @Lot
    RT is a propaganda arm of a foreign dictatorship.

    Citing it is a shameful act for an American, regardless of its particular content.

    The Russians in 2016 also spread anti-white BLM propaganda. Whatever suits their agenda.

    Russia is not a “dictatorship”. Precision in language is important.

    As an aside, the NYT is a propaganda arm of hostile aliens.

  56. Why the sudden headlines on the border crisis from the New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, NPR and the NY Post?

    All, with the exception the the NY Post, mocked Trump when he tried to secure funds for a wall and all claimed there was no border crisis.

    It is all meant to discourage Trump supporters.

    Everything Trump has tried to do at the border and on immigration has been blocked by federal Judges, from DACA to asylum, from TPS to sanctuary city funding

  57. @Mr McKenna

    Trump understated the situation. It is a Bum Rush on the Border, an invasion by any other name.
     
    The protest is often made: If it's an invasion, where are their weapons?

    To which I reply: They don't need weapons.

    Its all talmudic hairsplitting bullshit. Apparently to be an ‘invasion’ the ‘invaders’ must be:

    a) Armed.

    b) In uniform.

    c) Employees of a national government.

    d) White.

    e) Men. (Despite the constant rhetoric about women in the military, when it comes to poor brown folks the presence of women in their numbers proves they are not invaders)

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
    How about we comprimise and use "colonists" instead of "invaders"?
  58. @Lot
    RT is a propaganda arm of a foreign dictatorship.

    Citing it is a shameful act for an American, regardless of its particular content.

    The Russians in 2016 also spread anti-white BLM propaganda. Whatever suits their agenda.

    It’s very hard to tease out the Russian propaganda because the MSM purveys anti-US, anti-white, anti-western, anti-Christian propaganda 24/7 already. Its almost as if the media were already in the hands of hostile parties.

    • Agree: Trevor H.
  59. @istevefan
    They are probably doing it to rub our noses in the fact that the border is still not secure, and most likely won't be. It could drive a wedge between Trump and enough of his core supporters to cost him in 2020.

    Given that Trump reads the NY Times religiously, let's hope he sees this and can put two-and-two together.

    Correct. He is losing his base to grab at moderates who won’t bite. They know it, everyone but boomercons know it. The end will be very amusing to watch.

  60. @Anon
    "CAN'T THEY SEE IT'S REALLY AN EMERGENCY!?"

    Think of it from the Times's point of view. If for whatever reason (humanitarian, population replacement, labor needs) you believe in semi-open, porous borders, then anything that short circuits or overwhelms the processes in place to regulate the border is a good thing.

    In the back of their minds, however, they have to be thinking, Do the optics of this help keep Trump in office for an extra term, complete with judicial appointments during that term?

    Prediction: The Supreme Court is going too get bigger when the Democrats take over.

    Why would you bother to stack a court full of conservatives who conserve nothing? Just apply minimal pressure and watch them all rule like RGB.

  61. @Lot
    RT is a propaganda arm of a foreign dictatorship.

    Citing it is a shameful act for an American, regardless of its particular content.

    The Russians in 2016 also spread anti-white BLM propaganda. Whatever suits their agenda.

    Haha, okay.

  62. @eah
    https://twitter.com/CIS_org/status/1102949478015926272

    Hmm. Were the immigrants tested in their native language, or in English? If it was in English, then this is stupid. Educated immigrants are bound improve their English, sometimes dramatically.

    This reminds me of the 1920s tests that found Jews to be a low-IQ population.

    • Replies: @eah
    If it was in English, then this is stupid.

    I guess it depends somewhat on what "standardized literacy tests" are -- but sorry, your "stupid" remark is not entirely, or even at all, correct, in a very practical way -- if you are living/working as a professional in the US, where you must, and are expected to, especially if you have an advanced degree, communicate in English at an appropriate professional level, and you cannot do that, then it's a problem for the company, for colleagues, and partners at other companies -- I know: I experienced and still experience that sort of thing all the time.

    In addition, as I said in another comment thread re eg H1B types, in my experience the average technical level of these people is (also) clearly below that of the average American.
    , @snorlax
    They're let in on the basis that they are supposedly "highly-skilled" right now, not that they or their children will be at some future point.
    , @Buzz Mohawk

    This reminds me of the 1920s tests that found Jews to be a low-IQ population.
     
    Don't you know? After that, the Jews changed the IQ tests so that they would score higher. That's just one of the complex conspiracies their low-IQ population has perpetrated.

    https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1365/2497/files/IMG_3053-ANIMATION_large.gif?v=1522242950
    , @AnotherDad

    This reminds me of the 1920s tests that found Jews to be a low-IQ population.
     
    Cite?

    This is a routine Jewish IQ-denialist talking point. But in the 20s the evil gentiles were also quotaing "deserving" Jews out of Harvard, so they wouldn't swallow up the joint. Kinda hard to square these two claims.
  63. @Anonymous
    Trump is directly responsible for the rush at the border.

    In the past he promised to end DACA and then reneged. That sent a big fat bat signal in the sky to all of central america!

    Now he encourages the asylum seekers with twitter comments about how no serious deportations of illegals will occur! Another message sent!

    He has also alluded to a future much bigger amnesty deal! WTF? Message sent!

    Also he blurts out that he wants record levels of legal immigration at the state of the union address! Technically asylum seeking is a form of legal immigration. Message sent!

    It was mostly a sinister neocon takeover on display at CPAC .... directed by Trump and his people. They staged the crowd chants to make it sound like the "conservatives" want mass immigration. Message sent!

    Trump won't shut up about how we need to bring in new foreign workers for all of the new jobs that his booming economy is creating. Message sent!

    Etc.

    “In the past he promised to end DACA and then reneged.”

    Not really. He did issue an executive order bringing an end to DACA. Then the court said that an executive order issued by a Democratic president could not be reversed by a Republican president.

    Well, the court’s actual wording was to the effect that Trump, “had not shown sufficient reason for the action,” but…

  64. I told you there was no hope. Trump cucked like all Reps always cuck and always will cuck. There is no none nada nein support for a border wall or limits to immigration. None.

    None in the media, none in the military, judicial system, bureaucracy, university or feminist or lgbtqwerty orgs. Where real power lies. White men oppose it but we have no power.

    Victory is impossible but surviving in Honduras Norte is not.

    We must understand our enemies and make the fear us. Strategic deterrence. Among those White women, cuck s, non Whites, the judicial system, media etc.

    I want the Jussie judge to fear the wrath of White men should he let Jussie off … fear of protests against him and family everywhere, non stop lawsuits, flash mobs so that businesses ban him, pressure on his bank credit card company etc.

    Turnaround is fair play.

  65. eah says:
    @International Jew
    Hmm. Were the immigrants tested in their native language, or in English? If it was in English, then this is stupid. Educated immigrants are bound improve their English, sometimes dramatically.

    This reminds me of the 1920s tests that found Jews to be a low-IQ population.

    If it was in English, then this is stupid.

    I guess it depends somewhat on what “standardized literacy tests” are — but sorry, your “stupid” remark is not entirely, or even at all, correct, in a very practical way — if you are living/working as a professional in the US, where you must, and are expected to, especially if you have an advanced degree, communicate in English at an appropriate professional level, and you cannot do that, then it’s a problem for the company, for colleagues, and partners at other companies — I know: I experienced and still experience that sort of thing all the time.

    In addition, as I said in another comment thread re eg H1B types, in my experience the average technical level of these people is (also) clearly below that of the average American.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    So, do you know what language the tests were administered in?

    I'm no fan of the H1b program, or of hard-to-understand immigrants. But in your interactions with these people, surely you've seen their English improve? Some more than others, of course.

    I was one of those people myself. From age 12 to 18 I travelled rightwards across most of the ol' bell curve. (In the process I got to know a diverse bunch of school classmates.)

    Low-skilled immigrants are a different story. They start out with less than scintillating native intelligence, and then make their careers working with others like themselves. I've met Mexicans who've been here thirty years and still can't speak English at all.
    , @Jim Don Bob

    In addition, as I said in another comment thread re eg H1B types, in my experience the average technical level of these people is (also) clearly below that of the average American.
     
    I have had the misfortune these past few weeks of having to work with some of these H1Bs. They told our customer Company A that they knew language X. Things were not going well so Company A hired us to help. I drew the short straw.

    I hope these guys are cheap because they know nothing about language X. They do not read my explanatory emails or the extensive documentation. I spent almost 3 frustrating hours this morning walking Guvanda through the most elementary stuff, and I am sure I will have to do it again.

    I could fix Company A's problem in about a week. Only thing I can figure is that upper management told Company A's IT guys, "fix this and do it cheap."
  66. @International Jew
    Hmm. Were the immigrants tested in their native language, or in English? If it was in English, then this is stupid. Educated immigrants are bound improve their English, sometimes dramatically.

    This reminds me of the 1920s tests that found Jews to be a low-IQ population.

    They’re let in on the basis that they are supposedly “highly-skilled” right now, not that they or their children will be at some future point.

  67. @South Texas Guy
    If from the NYT (and I saw something about it on TV tonight), it makes you wonder what the ultimate goal of the coverage is? Is it, it makes lefties look bad, so let Donald do something about it now, tamp down the publicity, and we can let off border security once our guy gets in in 2020; or is honest reporting? I highly doubt it's the latter. It may be something else, but it's not the second one.

    Gloating.

  68. @International Jew
    Hmm. Were the immigrants tested in their native language, or in English? If it was in English, then this is stupid. Educated immigrants are bound improve their English, sometimes dramatically.

    This reminds me of the 1920s tests that found Jews to be a low-IQ population.

    This reminds me of the 1920s tests that found Jews to be a low-IQ population.

    Don’t you know? After that, the Jews changed the IQ tests so that they would score higher. That’s just one of the complex conspiracies their low-IQ population has perpetrated.

  69. Well, the chatter among smug suburban Democrats in the N.E. is that Trump’s attempt to start building the war caused panic among the tens of thousands of Amerindians, Meztizoes and the poorest from G, E, M, H, and, to hit the road before the wall is up! No, this is far more sinister than trying to drive a wedge.

    As far as a wedge, fougedaboudid! The general public and supporters of Trump see that the entire Democrat party is against him in every way. They see him not being allowed to build the wall only because of the sinister and spiteful Democrats (which is true). And, the Democrats come off as snide, evil, and just plain crazy. They just never expected Trump to win so they are becoming more and more vindictive, more and more terrifying to the general public. Everyone now realizes that the Democrats had a hidden agenda and that they are furious because they tried to be cloying with their whole “morality” shtick last month, and it failed miserably.

    And, the continued insane obstruction of anything he tries to do, is making people nauseous and angry at the Democrats. I mean, the 81 people and firms that the Democrats want to drag into hearings is the tipping point: McCarthyism. Never in my lifetime had I imagined that the Democrats act like Stalin, Mao or Hitler wanting to investigate people, bring them in, with no indictments, and send them to a gulag or just kill them. This is too bizarre, and it is obvious to the dumbest person that the Democrats have an agenda. They realize Democrats want to drag the American people by the throat, to be forced to live in a socialist state, where they will be the anointed ones to rule forever, a type of Third Reich where if you dissent, you are killed…or your children are taken from you.

    People are worried about the future for their children and grandchildren; and the hatred that is so obvious now, emanating every day from the serpentine tongues of the Democrat Congresspeople is freaking people out. Most families are doing better financially, and the public does not like this unseemly, continuous obstruction of President Trump. More and more people tell me they will vote for him (for the first time) because they are worried about their own families. It helps that people are noticing that both Bush and Obama were such bullshit artists, and that under Trump, finally, the bs wars are ending and prosperity is returning.

    Also, the last 2-3 years the hysterical Democrats want gun confiscation; mandatory vaccination; are pro-abortion (should say infanticide); insist primary school children be taught about trans and fluid genders, and basically, sexuality – perhaps eroding the lines towards pedophilia; attack Catholic schools/home-schooling; Progressives revel in the destruction of the Catholic church (I also see weekly gleeful articles how mainstream Protestant churches are losing parishioners); they want to block smart, Christian white boys (and now, girls) from elite Universities; Democrats want to punch smirk-faced white teenagers, or just beat the crap out of them if they look conservative; they lust for tons of illegal immigrants who will vote for Democrats; want higher income taxes, particularly for the broad middle class; want white Rust Belt people to hurry up and die from opioids; want white Christian men (like the Founding Fathers) to go to hell…and Beckies, of course 😀 -didn’t mean to make this so long – just disgusted with the Democrats, all and any Progressives. The Divide is now permanent. It’s funny, my brother predicted 20 years ago that the country would split up because of PC policies and perhaps, PC thought police…everything that leads to gulags, re-education camps, loss of due-process.

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
    Yep. Trump caused the rush at the border by threatening to build a wall. If he'd only open the border completely, then they'd stop coming.

    People who consider themselves intelligent and well-informed actually believe this sort of thing. It shows the power of propaganda.

    Meanwhile, about guns? They'd never confiscate guns from their sacred negro pets. They only want to seize them from white people.

    This shows two things: one, the purpose of the [media's] endless lying about crime is to pave the way for dispossessing white people and two, actually reducing crime isn't their real goal. More the opposite. So long as white people are crime victims, they couldn't be happier.

  70. These stories are mean to separate Trump from his base by suggesting that he has done nothing to stem the flow of illegals, which would appear to be true.

    Not that the Democrats will offer anything better on border security. The likely hope is that Trump supporters stay home in 2020.
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  71. wouldn’t it be fun to force just registered Democrats and Independents (they would have to switch to the Republican party to get out of this) to pay for all costs of migrants?! If Democrats insist that illegal immigration and DACA kids are so invaluable, they should carry all costs for their current and future welfare. In fact, fees could be removed from their paycheck, or quarterly taxes would be collected from investment income. This would be great! Force the Dems solely, to pay for the costs of housing, feeding, educating and providing healthcare from cradle to grave, to all current illegals here, and any migrants residing in migrant centers at the border, and the millions that will keep coming. Most Democrats would not want the country to split up (it already is, spiritually and ethically). Force them to pay for it all! And, use El Chapo’s drug money to build the wall.

  72. @Lurker
    Its all talmudic hairsplitting bullshit. Apparently to be an 'invasion' the 'invaders' must be:

    a) Armed.

    b) In uniform.

    c) Employees of a national government.

    d) White.

    e) Men. (Despite the constant rhetoric about women in the military, when it comes to poor brown folks the presence of women in their numbers proves they are not invaders)

    How about we comprimise and use “colonists” instead of “invaders”?

  73. @Foreign Expert
    Can we classify Mexico as an enemy country?

    You are a little late.

    And no kidding.

  74. I am encountering more and more normies and apolitical people blurting out, “what can we do about these stupid House Democrats?”

  75. @Lot
    RT is a propaganda arm of a foreign dictatorship.

    Citing it is a shameful act for an American, regardless of its particular content.

    The Russians in 2016 also spread anti-white BLM propaganda. Whatever suits their agenda.

    I’ll stop paying attention to RT, Sputnik, etc, when they’re no longer objectively superior to the US lyingpress. As for any source you could cite having a bias which must be taken into account, well, duh, but some sources actually have useful information some of the time, and NPR is a kaffeeklatsch of cat ladies and catamites caturwalling capriciously.

  76. @Nachum
    Of course, their own "obvious" answer is, open the borders and let them all in.

    This is that old Obama line that, garsh, it’s all so difficult, why should we even try? Obama justified every abdication with this. They never say this at tax time, or when they talk about gun confiscation.

  77. When did “migrant” change into “my grant”?

  78. @Mr McKenna

    Trump understated the situation. It is a Bum Rush on the Border, an invasion by any other name.
     
    The protest is often made: If it's an invasion, where are their weapons?

    To which I reply: They don't need weapons.

    The protest is often made: If it’s an invasion, where are their weapons?

    Uteri.

  79. yeah, and kirstjen nielsen helped it happen.

    trump, come on man.

  80. This would be a great time to deploy the Army and Marines to the Border. The optics would be wonderful.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    lmao no.

    They're already there and you, an Intellectual, don't notice it.

  81. “Whiteshift has a ton of data on this stuff, and I was surprised to learn that Mexican immigration is low, at 1970s rates now, and with more returning than coming.”

    clearly bullshit. when are we gonna be done with this more mexicans are leaving than coming bullshit. probably when we’re done with this mexican illegals have lower crime rate than americans bullshit.

    “However, Central American border jumpers are taking up the slack. Still, overall the numbers are not historically high.”

    what bullshit. gets so old. of course the numbers are historically high.

    “That’s just under a million a year at that rate. How is that 11 million total number holding up? Weird that. Even per our host, Ron Unz, there’s no big flow into the US, or it’s balanced by the outlows. My ass!”

    yes. it’s complete bullshit. total nonsense. nonsense in a technical way, not a political way. like electricity is at 17 hertz in the US, or americans drive on the left side of the road, or filling a 40 gallon water heater with 89 gallons of water is possible and safe. no, that’s just wrong, period.

    how can a million people come in every year and not many leave but the numbers ‘aren’t going up’.

  82. “Well, at least they’re not Irish coming in their hundreds and possibly reaching one thousand”

    if the US had kept out millions of irish people 100, 150 years ago, we might not be in this situation today. 25 million irish people voting democrat for 100 years has damaged the country tremendously.

    but yes, paul ryan was yet another obvious irish operator. the latest in a countless line of them. looking to hurt america as much as he could while nakedly, openly helping his own group on his way out the door, when it didn’t matter anymore if people realized what he actually was. glad to see steve allows discussion of this now. he blocked my posts for years pointing out the evident.

    “Perhaps Rand Paul can head down to the border and help build refugee shelters while wearing a “Laredo Republican” T-shirt.”

    rand paul is principled to a fault. that’s why there are few libertarians. nature makes sure they get eliminated if they actually stick to their guns. their positions are highly unnatural and they get replaced by the self interested. sometimes you have to adjust to the situation on the ground, or you get wiped out. thanks for the vote, rand.

    “Its all talmudic hairsplitting bullshit.”

    indeed. they make it up as they go along. it’s the jewish way. this is why i suggested that russia have 2 million un-uniformed, un-armed men simply walk into the UK, and take over london. herp derp, if they’re not military units, it’s not an invasion. but i think the problem here is that they’re russians, not useless brown third worlders. so the authorities would actually try to stop them.

  83. @eah
    If it was in English, then this is stupid.

    I guess it depends somewhat on what "standardized literacy tests" are -- but sorry, your "stupid" remark is not entirely, or even at all, correct, in a very practical way -- if you are living/working as a professional in the US, where you must, and are expected to, especially if you have an advanced degree, communicate in English at an appropriate professional level, and you cannot do that, then it's a problem for the company, for colleagues, and partners at other companies -- I know: I experienced and still experience that sort of thing all the time.

    In addition, as I said in another comment thread re eg H1B types, in my experience the average technical level of these people is (also) clearly below that of the average American.

    So, do you know what language the tests were administered in?

    I’m no fan of the H1b program, or of hard-to-understand immigrants. But in your interactions with these people, surely you’ve seen their English improve? Some more than others, of course.

    I was one of those people myself. From age 12 to 18 I travelled rightwards across most of the ol’ bell curve. (In the process I got to know a diverse bunch of school classmates.)

    Low-skilled immigrants are a different story. They start out with less than scintillating native intelligence, and then make their careers working with others like themselves. I’ve met Mexicans who’ve been here thirty years and still can’t speak English at all.

    • Replies: @eah
    So, do you know what language the tests were administered in?

    I assume it was English since they compared the results to those of "native-born Americans" -- since this is the USA, doing the assessment/comparison in English would make sense, right? -- and there's nothing inappropriate about that.

    ...you’ve seen their English improve?

    No, not really -- but then I did not pay close attention to that, and re particular individuals, I often did not hang around a company long enough -- many of these people speak their native language both with friends/colleagues and at home -- so in my experience improvement in English was basically not happening -- and there were people like me to take up that slack, eg to handle communication with other companies.

    From age 12 to 18 I travelled rightwards across most of the ol’ bell curve.

    If you say so -- you're a living example of the Flynn Effect then I guess -- on steroids.
  84. @Lot
    RT is a propaganda arm of a foreign dictatorship.

    Citing it is a shameful act for an American, regardless of its particular content.

    The Russians in 2016 also spread anti-white BLM propaganda. Whatever suits their agenda.

    I bet you’re Israeli Hasbara.

  85. More importantly, the Republicans who are coming out against the Emergency! need to be banished. I will do whatever I can so those Senators will be voted out of existence. They are traitors to the American People and deserve no respect….they are just as disgusting as the Democrats; they’ll learn a cruel lesson when they lose, and lose they will. Trump supporters do not support them.

  86. Up until recently, I though Trump’s statements about an “emergency” at the border was just so much hyperbole. Now…I’m not so sure.

    Why aren’t Pelosi, Schumer and usual suspects (Pow-Wow Warren, Kamalalalabolala Harris, etc.)going down there themselves to see what’s what? And they should bring with them that bug-eyed chatterbox who , in the name of Instant Name Recognition, Big Media has christened with the letters “AOC.”

  87. Anonymous [AKA "Wank supremacist"] says:
    @eah
    https://twitter.com/CIS_org/status/1102949478015926272

    Repost: “‘Heredity racist” Jason Richwine published this week a report, meant to prove that immigrant groups “with a college or advanced degree are scoring the same on standardized literacy tests as native-born Americans with just a high-school diploma” (per his Twitter). Apparently, this is all too similar to his Harvard PhD dissertation where he “proved” that illegal Hispanic immigrants have substandard IQ. Back then, he claimed that low IQ persists over generation, as if illegal immigration is a genetic event. Ten years later, he claims that even immigrants with US degrees are inferior (“one in six foreign-degree holders score below basic in numeracy”, per his report).

    His tables are somewhat confusing. US natives scores are listed as bachelors, advanced degrees, and overall average of above-high school. But immigrants are listed only as “all above above-high school” and “BSc only”. This “apples vs oranges” allowed Richwine “prove” his point. For example, the numeracy score for all US natives with college degree or higher is 296 on a OECD-sanctioned numeracy test, whereas immigrants with US degrees in the same category scored 292, and immigrants with foreign degrees scored only 273. Similarly, bachelors-only scored higher if they were US natives.

    I calculated the missing data point, that is, the comparison of advanced degrees holders. Turns out, in this group, native US participants scored 301, but immigrants with an US degree scored 308. Now, more than half of the “immigrants with an US degree” turned out to have an advanced degree, so, if the study population is representative, it’s probably the group you’d want to highlight. I’d like to blame Richwine’s omission on second-class numeracy, but, based on his putative high literacy, I’d rather go for blatant cherry picking. “

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    What percentage of American-born "advanced" degree holders have Education degrees?
    , @AnotherDad
    Well you certainly picked your moniker aptly, "Wank" is right.

    Apparently, this is all too similar to his Harvard PhD dissertation where he “proved” that illegal Hispanic immigrants have substandard IQ. Back then, he claimed that low IQ persists over generation, as if illegal immigration is a genetic event.
     
    This comment is so bone-chillingly stupid, it earns your "Wank" moniker all by itself.

    Of course, Richwine never said or implied illegal immigration was a "genetic event". But Hispanic illegals are a particular group--like the famine Irish, or Great Wave Ashkenazi or Italians, or American blacks, or Scots Irish. And like any group it has a particular distribution of genetic intelligence. (Or if you like genes that result in such and such IQ scores with current American nutrition, medical care and schooling.) And the Hispanic illegals in fact are on average genetically low IQ relative to the native American population, as demonstrated by the performance of their children, who have not exactly set the American school system on fire with their performance.


    His tables are somewhat confusing. US natives scores are listed as bachelors, advanced degrees, and overall average of above-high school. But immigrants are listed only as “all above above-high school” and “BSc only”. This “apples vs oranges” allowed Richwine “prove” his point.
     
    This is nonsense. His tables, normed to US native percentile ranks are some of the easiest to read and understant that one ever gets and the apples-to-apples comparisons are easy to make.

    The issue of English language skill as a metric of other skills is ever present. But it's not irrelevant to what the immigrants can do in the labor market in the US. And the numeracy scores skirt around--mostly--that question.

    His main assertion about the low bar associated with foreign degrees, just pops out. It in no sense relies on any apples to oranges comparison.

    Your point that Richwine should have broken out the immigrant advanced degree group, i agree with. But again it doesn't make the comparisons he actually makes the slightest bit invalid. He may well have hidden it for the "cherry picking" reason you note--the US advanced degreed immigrants score a bit better in numeracy than US advanced degree natives. The main reason for this is probably accounted for by the reason Steve hints at--more US advanced degrees are in b.s. fields. In fact, Richwine points that out in the text and offers a footnote for the stat:


    10 In the 2017 American Community Survey, about 37.5 percent of college-educated immigrants (ages 25 to 64) have Science, Technology, Engineering, or Mathematics (STEM) degrees, compared to 19.4 percent of natives.
     
    If you compared STEM to STEM, even that advantage would probably vanish.


    Richwine's wrap is balanced, quite sound and supported by his data:


    Although skilled immigration may be desirable, policy-makers must be cautious in using foreign degrees as proof of those skills. This report has shown that immigrants with foreign degrees perform substantially worse than U.S. degree holders on tests of literacy, numeracy, and computer operations. In some cases, the gaps are so large that immigrants with foreign college degrees have skills that resemble those of natives who have only a high school diploma. Although poor English clearly plays a role in the disparity — and a command of English is essential for success in most high-skill occupations in the United States — the disparity persists even among immigrants who have had at least five years to learn English after arriving.

    In Congress, some proposed immigration reforms acknowledge the greater value of U.S. degrees. For example, the RAISE Act would establish a points system for high-skill immigrants that prioritizes U.S. degrees over foreign degrees. It would also go beyond educational credentials by giving extra points for English fluency, STEM specialties, and pre-arranged employment. Ultimately, policy-makers should consider making skill selection even more direct. Universities, the foreign service, and the military have been using standardized testing for decades to evaluate applicants. For example, people who want to do advanced study in important subjects such as biology, chemistry, and physics need to take the Graduate Record Exam (GRE) to demonstrate their knowledge and preparation. Perhaps Congress could integrate similar tests into a truly high-skill immigration system.
     

    In contrast you state:

    Now, more than half of the “immigrants with an US degree” turned out to have an advanced degree, so, if the study population is representative, it’s probably the group you’d want to highlight.
     
    I.e. you want to "cherry pick" US-advanced degreed immigrants.

    Fine. But you don't get to piggy back all degreed immigrants on this group. The high ratio of US-degreed immigrants with advanced degrees (who indeed score well in numeracy), but the just so-so performance of even the US-degreed immigrants as a whole, points out the mediocrity of even the US-degreed college-only immigrants. They score, even in numeracy, only at the 59%tile, well below the results for college-only US natives and actually closer to US "some college" natives (i.e. college dropouts). As a whole not an impressive addition to the US.

    Highlighting just the advanced degreed ones, sure there you have a reasonably capable group. I know a bunch of very sharp US-advanced-STEM-degreed immigrants. But they are hardly representative of immigration to the US.

    If that--US advanced-degree--was our bar, our immigration would have been < 100k, every year, < 1 million a decade. The US now would have < 5m immigrants instead of 45 million ... and pretty much zero issues surrounding immigration, demographic change, demographic driven political change, breaking social cohesion and--the issue Richwine highlights--of immigration making American stupider and less capable.

  88. @Achmed E. Newman
    That's just under a million a year at that rate. How is that 11 million total number holding up? Weird that. Even per our host, Ron Unz, there's no big flow into the US, or it's balanced by the outlows. My ass!

    However, it's not an impossible situation if there were a political will. It's up to the American people to create enough fear in the politicians for there to be some will. The situation doesn't HAVE TO be as hopeless as it seems - see CPAC, gutsy Michelle Malken, and Swift Airlines. Right now, Swift Air just takes home (with radio call-sign "Repatriate"!) the worst of the worst illegal alien criminals, with ~120 to ~150 in coach class in 737's. They have > 30 planes. Just those 30 planes (or say 25 of them operating) doing 2 round-trips daily could bring all of them back, with room to spare.

    There is absolutely no reason all these people couldn't be sent back at a rate and thoroughness to where the rest stop bothering to come.

    Oh, lastly, I really would like to hear our Jack Hanson chime in here. You have the inside scoop, it seems, from working in this area in some capacity. We should read reports from you weekly - leave out the insults, and swallow your pride about Donald Trump.

    We have at least 22 million illegals in the US, according to a recent Yale study.

    https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/yale-study-finds-twice-as-many-undocumented-immigrants-as-previous-estimates

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
    You hardly ever see a reasonable estimate like that. I can just hear the [usual suspects] now... "Shut it down! And from Yale yet, oy."
  89. @Anonymous
    Repost: "'Heredity racist" Jason Richwine published this week a report, meant to prove that immigrant groups "with a college or advanced degree are scoring the same on standardized literacy tests as native-born Americans with just a high-school diploma" (per his Twitter). Apparently, this is all too similar to his Harvard PhD dissertation where he "proved" that illegal Hispanic immigrants have substandard IQ. Back then, he claimed that low IQ persists over generation, as if illegal immigration is a genetic event. Ten years later, he claims that even immigrants with US degrees are inferior ("one in six foreign-degree holders score below basic in numeracy", per his report).

    His tables are somewhat confusing. US natives scores are listed as bachelors, advanced degrees, and overall average of above-high school. But immigrants are listed only as "all above above-high school" and "BSc only". This "apples vs oranges" allowed Richwine "prove" his point. For example, the numeracy score for all US natives with college degree or higher is 296 on a OECD-sanctioned numeracy test, whereas immigrants with US degrees in the same category scored 292, and immigrants with foreign degrees scored only 273. Similarly, bachelors-only scored higher if they were US natives.

    I calculated the missing data point, that is, the comparison of advanced degrees holders. Turns out, in this group, native US participants scored 301, but immigrants with an US degree scored 308. Now, more than half of the "immigrants with an US degree" turned out to have an advanced degree, so, if the study population is representative, it's probably the group you'd want to highlight. I'd like to blame Richwine's omission on second-class numeracy, but, based on his putative high literacy, I'd rather go for blatant cherry picking. "

    What percentage of American-born “advanced” degree holders have Education degrees?

    • Replies: @Lot
    ~20% of doctorates are in education.
  90. @Lagertha
    Well, the chatter among smug suburban Democrats in the N.E. is that Trump's attempt to start building the war caused panic among the tens of thousands of Amerindians, Meztizoes and the poorest from G, E, M, H, and, to hit the road before the wall is up! No, this is far more sinister than trying to drive a wedge.

    As far as a wedge, fougedaboudid! The general public and supporters of Trump see that the entire Democrat party is against him in every way. They see him not being allowed to build the wall only because of the sinister and spiteful Democrats (which is true). And, the Democrats come off as snide, evil, and just plain crazy. They just never expected Trump to win so they are becoming more and more vindictive, more and more terrifying to the general public. Everyone now realizes that the Democrats had a hidden agenda and that they are furious because they tried to be cloying with their whole "morality" shtick last month, and it failed miserably.

    And, the continued insane obstruction of anything he tries to do, is making people nauseous and angry at the Democrats. I mean, the 81 people and firms that the Democrats want to drag into hearings is the tipping point: McCarthyism. Never in my lifetime had I imagined that the Democrats act like Stalin, Mao or Hitler wanting to investigate people, bring them in, with no indictments, and send them to a gulag or just kill them. This is too bizarre, and it is obvious to the dumbest person that the Democrats have an agenda. They realize Democrats want to drag the American people by the throat, to be forced to live in a socialist state, where they will be the anointed ones to rule forever, a type of Third Reich where if you dissent, you are killed...or your children are taken from you.

    People are worried about the future for their children and grandchildren; and the hatred that is so obvious now, emanating every day from the serpentine tongues of the Democrat Congresspeople is freaking people out. Most families are doing better financially, and the public does not like this unseemly, continuous obstruction of President Trump. More and more people tell me they will vote for him (for the first time) because they are worried about their own families. It helps that people are noticing that both Bush and Obama were such bullshit artists, and that under Trump, finally, the bs wars are ending and prosperity is returning.

    Also, the last 2-3 years the hysterical Democrats want gun confiscation; mandatory vaccination; are pro-abortion (should say infanticide); insist primary school children be taught about trans and fluid genders, and basically, sexuality - perhaps eroding the lines towards pedophilia; attack Catholic schools/home-schooling; Progressives revel in the destruction of the Catholic church (I also see weekly gleeful articles how mainstream Protestant churches are losing parishioners); they want to block smart, Christian white boys (and now, girls) from elite Universities; Democrats want to punch smirk-faced white teenagers, or just beat the crap out of them if they look conservative; they lust for tons of illegal immigrants who will vote for Democrats; want higher income taxes, particularly for the broad middle class; want white Rust Belt people to hurry up and die from opioids; want white Christian men (like the Founding Fathers) to go to hell...and Beckies, of course :D -didn't mean to make this so long - just disgusted with the Democrats, all and any Progressives. The Divide is now permanent. It's funny, my brother predicted 20 years ago that the country would split up because of PC policies and perhaps, PC thought police...everything that leads to gulags, re-education camps, loss of due-process.

    Yep. Trump caused the rush at the border by threatening to build a wall. If he’d only open the border completely, then they’d stop coming.

    People who consider themselves intelligent and well-informed actually believe this sort of thing. It shows the power of propaganda.

    Meanwhile, about guns? They’d never confiscate guns from their sacred negro pets. They only want to seize them from white people.

    This shows two things: one, the purpose of the [media’s] endless lying about crime is to pave the way for dispossessing white people and two, actually reducing crime isn’t their real goal. More the opposite. So long as white people are crime victims, they couldn’t be happier.

  91. @Mr. Anon
    Perhaps Rand Paul can head down to the border and help build refugee shelters while wearing a "Laredo Republican" T-shirt.

    No doubt Rand Paul wants to head down to the border and start registering those Central Americans as Republicans, as with his phenomenally successful African American outreach program in Detroit in 2013. He’s the new Jack Kemp!

    Paul also spoke Friday about what he called a “21st-century civil rights agenda” involving education and prison reform in another attempt at reaching inner city minorities. “We need to be a more diverse party,” Paul said. “If you want to win, it’s just practically the only way you ever win again… “We need people in our party that don’t all have ties on. We need people with tattoos. We need people without tattoos. We need people with pony tails, earrings. We need people from all different walks of life. All different colors. All different creeds. And the Democratic Party is more diverse than us. That’s why they’re winning more elections.”

    https://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/2013/12/sen_rand_paul_in_detroit_repub.html

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    No doubt Rand Paul wants to head down to the border and start registering those Central Americans as Republicans, as with his phenomenally successful African American outreach program in Detroit in 2013. He’s the new Jack Kemp!
     
    To determine if that is the case, we would need to know how many minorities Paul has showered with.

    If that sounds strange, the explanation can be found by google-ing: Kemp Gingrich Shower
  92. @International Jew
    So, do you know what language the tests were administered in?

    I'm no fan of the H1b program, or of hard-to-understand immigrants. But in your interactions with these people, surely you've seen their English improve? Some more than others, of course.

    I was one of those people myself. From age 12 to 18 I travelled rightwards across most of the ol' bell curve. (In the process I got to know a diverse bunch of school classmates.)

    Low-skilled immigrants are a different story. They start out with less than scintillating native intelligence, and then make their careers working with others like themselves. I've met Mexicans who've been here thirty years and still can't speak English at all.

    So, do you know what language the tests were administered in?

    I assume it was English since they compared the results to those of “native-born Americans” — since this is the USA, doing the assessment/comparison in English would make sense, right? — and there’s nothing inappropriate about that.

    …you’ve seen their English improve?

    No, not really — but then I did not pay close attention to that, and re particular individuals, I often did not hang around a company long enough — many of these people speak their native language both with friends/colleagues and at home — so in my experience improvement in English was basically not happening — and there were people like me to take up that slack, eg to handle communication with other companies.

    From age 12 to 18 I travelled rightwards across most of the ol’ bell curve.

    If you say so — you’re a living example of the Flynn Effect then I guess — on steroids.

    • Replies: @International Jew

    If you say so — you’re a living example of the Flynn Effect then I guess
     
    No. I didn't get any smarter (for my age), and that's the whole point. I simply learned English.
  93. • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    It's almost as if diamonds aren't a girl's best friend.
  94. Not one mention of E-verify because you’re all too cucked to understand the business regulation is the way to deal with businesses that are fucking up the country, which is what illegal immigration is a form of. Sad!

    And changing legal immigration is also just a more roundabout form of business regulation.

  95. @Achmed E. Newman

    75,000 illegals rushing the border Syrian-in-Germany Style: No Emergency For Rand. But Obama droning some Al Qaedas in Yemen: there Rand draws the line.
     
    Those two things are not at all inconsistent, Lot. However, the Republic is long gone, and the conservatives can't keep playing whiffleball while the ctrl-left plays hardball. Both Dr. Pauls would have been great to have around (and cloned 50X) in the Congress as recently as 25 years ago. Now, it's too late for some of what they're selling.

    “Both Dr. Pauls would have been great to have around (and cloned 50X) in the Congress as recently as 25 years ago. Now, it’s too late for some of what they’re selling.”

    You could say the same about Bernie/Mondale style economic leftism. It worked fine in the 60s and 70s. It still works in Denmark.

    But in 2019 USA, formerly acceptable welfare programs like Medicaid are mostly racialized transfers from whites/NE Asian to our local third world populations.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    You could say the same about Bernie/Mondale style economic leftism. It worked fine in the 60s and 70s. It still works in Denmark.
     
    That must be the general "you", there Lot, as it sure as hell wasn't me, Kemosabe. It's that Bernie/Mondale Socialism, brought on by the twin evil bastards Roosevelt and Johnson that got us in the mess to begin with! That's it - we'll all just get taxed so we have to both work (may not have enough time or energy for kids though), so we can pay for those other people to have our money to raise their kids. They'll be responsible, I'm sure of it. What TF could go wrong?

    Socialism is Cuckdom personified.

    I keep hearing about Denmark from you people, yet I don't ever hear of any solid plans. Something's rotten with that ....
  96. @Harry Baldwin
    We have at least 22 million illegals in the US, according to a recent Yale study.

    https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/yale-study-finds-twice-as-many-undocumented-immigrants-as-previous-estimates

    You hardly ever see a reasonable estimate like that. I can just hear the [usual suspects] now… “Shut it down! And from Yale yet, oy.”

  97. @Steve Sailer
    What percentage of American-born "advanced" degree holders have Education degrees?

    ~20% of doctorates are in education.

  98. @Anon
    By "inner Hitler" I'm simply saying that Trump needs thicker skin to stand of to "You monster!" reactions to deportations of non criminal illegals, and he needs to generate a bit of a constitutional crisis by, uh, neutralizing the courts, who would stop any attempt at nullifying citizenship. He needs Bannon and Sessions and more.

    76,000 illegals in a month (a rate of 912,000 illegals annually) = not historically high? Ok.
     
    Kaufmann's numbers are from the US Border Patrol (or whatever they're called now) from 1960 through 2016. The number you gave probably came from 2006. It's half of that in 2016, and looking at just Mexicans, about a quarter, since in 2016 illegals were only half Mexican and half other (mostly Central American).

    Here, I uploaded a screen cap of the whole graph here:

    https://ibb.co/5LzXHny

    By “inner Hitler” I’m simply saying that Trump needs thicker skin

    Hitler had thick skin?

  99. @Achmed E. Newman
    That's just under a million a year at that rate. How is that 11 million total number holding up? Weird that. Even per our host, Ron Unz, there's no big flow into the US, or it's balanced by the outlows. My ass!

    However, it's not an impossible situation if there were a political will. It's up to the American people to create enough fear in the politicians for there to be some will. The situation doesn't HAVE TO be as hopeless as it seems - see CPAC, gutsy Michelle Malken, and Swift Airlines. Right now, Swift Air just takes home (with radio call-sign "Repatriate"!) the worst of the worst illegal alien criminals, with ~120 to ~150 in coach class in 737's. They have > 30 planes. Just those 30 planes (or say 25 of them operating) doing 2 round-trips daily could bring all of them back, with room to spare.

    There is absolutely no reason all these people couldn't be sent back at a rate and thoroughness to where the rest stop bothering to come.

    Oh, lastly, I really would like to hear our Jack Hanson chime in here. You have the inside scoop, it seems, from working in this area in some capacity. We should read reports from you weekly - leave out the insults, and swallow your pride about Donald Trump.

    Look above.

  100. Currently in the US a district judge holds more power than the Legislative, Executive, and 200+ years of case law.

    Until that is addressed, this is all moot.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  101. @Stick
    This would be a great time to deploy the Army and Marines to the Border. The optics would be wonderful.

    lmao no.

    They’re already there and you, an Intellectual, don’t notice it.

  102. @Mr. Anon
    Nice move there - turning your objection to Paul to your own parochial issues.

    I don't give a f**k about BDS. I certainly don't think it should be illegal. Attempts to make it so, like those of Norman Brahman's cabana-boy, Marco Rubio, are clear violations of the 1st amendment.

    If you want to ban political boycotts, you should make Aliyah and go ban them in your homeland.

    “Nice move there – turning your objection to Paul to your own parochial issues.”

    Wow, it’s almost as if you’re on to his game there.

  103. @Trevor H.
    OT, speaking of emergencies....


    https://www.foxnews.com/health/billionaire-diamond-trader-dies-during-penis-enhancement-procedure-reports-say

    It’s almost as if diamonds aren’t a girl’s best friend.

    • LOL: Mr McKenna
  104. @Lot
    RT is a propaganda arm of a foreign dictatorship.

    Citing it is a shameful act for an American, regardless of its particular content.

    The Russians in 2016 also spread anti-white BLM propaganda. Whatever suits their agenda.

    “You can’t trust them foreigners!” says the guy who shills for Israel at every possible opportunity. The chutzpah of you people is incredible.

  105. Anonymous[287] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack Hanson
    Its actually worst than you can imagine. Not only is this not stopping, the manpower issues the Border Patrol faces only grow worst as more agents across the spectrum of seniority decide to pull the pin and resign or retire, because they didn't sign up to hand out burritos and process a never ending stream of illegals seeking "gimmedats".

    Chief Hastings did a great job torpedoing the "but rates are down from *random point in time*!", explaining how yeah you used to get a group of 120 Mexicans, but its easier to deport them versus these family units claiming asylum with the law and court cases tying their hands.

    Currently the convo on the Right is taken up by what? Green New Deal? Omar speaking the truth? Does AOC have the power that has been ceded to a district judge who is rewriting the law by fiat?

    Trump owns this mess.

    So you’re admitting now that the “eeyores” were right all along?

    • Agree: MEH 0910
    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    No one likes to be reminded of how stupid he was last week.

    It is fun, though..
    , @Jack Hanson
    Lol no. Sorry Ball Gag Crew, but the same people who were screaming about an amnesty on November 8th, 2016 and never stopped aren't suddenly right because Princess Kushner took over the WH around the same time of the Kavenaugh hearings.

    New data necessitates new conclusions. That being said, the eeyores are mostly aging boomers who won't survive the coming Troubles. You should have hoped I was right and the system could be changed into something better than the terminal decline of the neoliberal order. Obviously it can't, but the current "rule by technocrat" has the structural strength of spun sugar and is unsustainable for another decade, let alone the long run.

    Oh well. Onwards to Hell, and to see what tomorrow brings. Some of us will see the dawn.

  106. @The Alarmist
    One of the issues an American abroad faces after a couple decades is whether or not to let go of US citizenship. It used to be something special, something to be earned by those not fortunate to be born into it from legally resident parents already subject to the jurisdiction of the US.

    Now it seems that all the benefits of being a US citizen are just given away to every person and family that can plant itself in the country and have a kid or have sent a kid who lands an H1B and stays for the magic time to bring them in. Meanwhile the America abroad is told under penalties of perjury and law to keep disclosing all his banking info and filing and paying taxes above and beyond what the host country demands that treaty credits won't cover. What used to be a hard decision is getting easier.

    You might not lose just my vote, Mr. President ... you might also lose me as a revenue stream.

    You might not lose just my vote, Mr. President … you might also lose me as a revenue stream.

    Nobody cares anymore on this end. They’re borrowing money at < 2% interest. It's a steal, man! (How will we pay it back? Quit asking those pesky, wonky questions! I'm a big-picture guy.)

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Paying back one's debts is a White Thing.

    We won't have to worry about that so much anymore.

    Democrats are already promising Universal Basic Income.

    Add some Debt Jubilees to that and life's about to get real easy..

    , @The Alarmist
    The problem is they keep sending me love letters.
  107. @donut
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh8hvy1hq9k

    That sounds very, very enticing, Mr. Donut, especially for a single guy. However, as I tried my best to explain to Fredrico Reedisimo, of Ole Mehico, in “Down to the Banana Republics”, it’s all good until the US Dollar goes down the toilet. Did you hear about the guard across the street at ~ 5 mins. in? Yeah, well, when your SS check for $1500 doesn’t cover the expenses anymore, as it did in the video, he may not want to guard you anymore.

    That $2 weekly cost for the woman to do all your laundry (not in the video)? You may be the 2 dollar guy doing people’s laundry. One more thing: when the SHTF, the population down in Ecuador may be quite ready for that sort of thing. You, especially you all with families, may not be ready, but more importantly, the locals may decide that you, the gringo, are to blame, no matter how many posts you’ve written disparaging the Federal Reserve on your blog!

    Oh, I never saw anything in the video about how many guns I can keep in these low-cost beautiful residences.

    • Replies: @donut
    When the SHTF it won't make any difference where you live . As to guns we won't have any here in 5-10 years at the outside . Look at the Yellow Vests in France throwing rocks at the state's thugs , dogs everyone of them . You can't take The Winter Palace with rocks . Macron should be hanging by his feet at some Shell gas station by now . As long as whitey can come home from work and doze off in front of the TV with a full stomach he won't acknowledge or resist the fate being prepared for him by the "tribal elders" .
  108. @eah
    If it was in English, then this is stupid.

    I guess it depends somewhat on what "standardized literacy tests" are -- but sorry, your "stupid" remark is not entirely, or even at all, correct, in a very practical way -- if you are living/working as a professional in the US, where you must, and are expected to, especially if you have an advanced degree, communicate in English at an appropriate professional level, and you cannot do that, then it's a problem for the company, for colleagues, and partners at other companies -- I know: I experienced and still experience that sort of thing all the time.

    In addition, as I said in another comment thread re eg H1B types, in my experience the average technical level of these people is (also) clearly below that of the average American.

    In addition, as I said in another comment thread re eg H1B types, in my experience the average technical level of these people is (also) clearly below that of the average American.

    I have had the misfortune these past few weeks of having to work with some of these H1Bs. They told our customer Company A that they knew language X. Things were not going well so Company A hired us to help. I drew the short straw.

    I hope these guys are cheap because they know nothing about language X. They do not read my explanatory emails or the extensive documentation. I spent almost 3 frustrating hours this morning walking Guvanda through the most elementary stuff, and I am sure I will have to do it again.

    I could fix Company A’s problem in about a week. Only thing I can figure is that upper management told Company A’s IT guys, “fix this and do it cheap.”

  109. @Anonymous
    So you're admitting now that the "eeyores" were right all along?

    No one likes to be reminded of how stupid he was last week.

    It is fun, though..

  110. @Achmed E. Newman

    You might not lose just my vote, Mr. President … you might also lose me as a revenue stream.
     
    Nobody cares anymore on this end. They're borrowing money at < 2% interest. It's a steal, man! (How will we pay it back? Quit asking those pesky, wonky questions! I'm a big-picture guy.)

    Paying back one’s debts is a White Thing.

    We won’t have to worry about that so much anymore.

    Democrats are already promising Universal Basic Income.

    Add some Debt Jubilees to that and life’s about to get real easy..

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna


    The debt jubilee: an Old Testament solution to a modern financial crisis?


    https://images.theconversation.com/files/23047/original/738cjdm4-1367299144.jpg
    That's right--blame the white boy

    The overhang of debt in Europe and the US has made recovery from the global financial crisis particularly tenuous.

    Is there a dramatic and simple way out of all this? Some argue that there is: a “debt jubilee”. Drawn from the Old Testament book of Deuteronomy, the concept derives from the biblical injunction for a day of rest one day out of every week, a “sabbath” day that reflects the teaching the God rested on the seventh day after creating the world in six.

    There is another injunction for a sabbath year every seventh year, in which people are to not work and on the year after the seventh of those sabbatical years , i.e. the 50th, (one year after the 49th) there would be a jubilee year during which any slaves would be emancipated and everyone would return to their land and family to live off of natural providence. A clear implication of this teaching is that all obligations, including debt obligations, would be forgiven in the process.
     
  111. @Lot
    “Both Dr. Pauls would have been great to have around (and cloned 50X) in the Congress as recently as 25 years ago. Now, it’s too late for some of what they’re selling.”

    You could say the same about Bernie/Mondale style economic leftism. It worked fine in the 60s and 70s. It still works in Denmark.

    But in 2019 USA, formerly acceptable welfare programs like Medicaid are mostly racialized transfers from whites/NE Asian to our local third world populations.

    You could say the same about Bernie/Mondale style economic leftism. It worked fine in the 60s and 70s. It still works in Denmark.

    That must be the general “you”, there Lot, as it sure as hell wasn’t me, Kemosabe. It’s that Bernie/Mondale Socialism, brought on by the twin evil bastards Roosevelt and Johnson that got us in the mess to begin with! That’s it – we’ll all just get taxed so we have to both work (may not have enough time or energy for kids though), so we can pay for those other people to have our money to raise their kids. They’ll be responsible, I’m sure of it. What TF could go wrong?

    Socialism is Cuckdom personified.

    I keep hearing about Denmark from you people, yet I don’t ever hear of any solid plans. Something’s rotten with that ….

  112. @Mr McKenna
    Paying back one's debts is a White Thing.

    We won't have to worry about that so much anymore.

    Democrats are already promising Universal Basic Income.

    Add some Debt Jubilees to that and life's about to get real easy..


    The debt jubilee: an Old Testament solution to a modern financial crisis?


    That’s right–blame the white boy

    The overhang of debt in Europe and the US has made recovery from the global financial crisis particularly tenuous.

    Is there a dramatic and simple way out of all this? Some argue that there is: a “debt jubilee”. Drawn from the Old Testament book of Deuteronomy, the concept derives from the biblical injunction for a day of rest one day out of every week, a “sabbath” day that reflects the teaching the God rested on the seventh day after creating the world in six.

    There is another injunction for a sabbath year every seventh year, in which people are to not work and on the year after the seventh of those sabbatical years , i.e. the 50th, (one year after the 49th) there would be a jubilee year during which any slaves would be emancipated and everyone would return to their land and family to live off of natural providence. A clear implication of this teaching is that all obligations, including debt obligations, would be forgiven in the process.

  113. @International Jew
    Hmm. Were the immigrants tested in their native language, or in English? If it was in English, then this is stupid. Educated immigrants are bound improve their English, sometimes dramatically.

    This reminds me of the 1920s tests that found Jews to be a low-IQ population.

    This reminds me of the 1920s tests that found Jews to be a low-IQ population.

    Cite?

    This is a routine Jewish IQ-denialist talking point. But in the 20s the evil gentiles were also quotaing “deserving” Jews out of Harvard, so they wouldn’t swallow up the joint. Kinda hard to square these two claims.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    IIRC, the Nazis banned IQ tests.
    , @International Jew
    I had to google this, and sift through lots of politically biased junk. So it looks like there are two sources. One was a study by Goddard that was maliciously misinterpreted years later by Leon Kamin, who was part of the Steven J Gould circle of politically-motivated frauds.

    The other was an intelligence test administered by the WW1 US Army to millions of recruits, and which found Russian immigrants to be of low intelligence. At that time, most immigrants from Russia were Jewish.

    There's no contradiction between that and Harvard's quotas. Most American Jews then were recent immigrants, but many were not, and that was the relevant population for Harvard.

    See how you do on this mini IQ test in French:
    https://www.123test.com/fr/test-de-qi/
  114. @Lot
    I am not happy with Trump on immigration, but I don’t think you realize how bad Jeb Bush would have been.

    Mass migration was worse under W than any other president, but Jeb is a “trans-racial” fanatic

    Yes. George W. Bush talked about how much he loved Mexicans, but Jeb Bush went ahead and *married* one. He *mated* with one.

    However disappointing Trump has been, Jeb would have been a hundred times worse. Hillary would have been a hundred thousand times worse.

  115. @Anonymous
    So you're admitting now that the "eeyores" were right all along?

    Lol no. Sorry Ball Gag Crew, but the same people who were screaming about an amnesty on November 8th, 2016 and never stopped aren’t suddenly right because Princess Kushner took over the WH around the same time of the Kavenaugh hearings.

    New data necessitates new conclusions. That being said, the eeyores are mostly aging boomers who won’t survive the coming Troubles. You should have hoped I was right and the system could be changed into something better than the terminal decline of the neoliberal order. Obviously it can’t, but the current “rule by technocrat” has the structural strength of spun sugar and is unsustainable for another decade, let alone the long run.

    Oh well. Onwards to Hell, and to see what tomorrow brings. Some of us will see the dawn.

    • Replies: @Lot
    “are mostly aging boomers who won’t survive the coming Troubles”

    Oh yeah Americans are just itching to start killing each other. Especially the boomers who hog all the sweet reverse mortgages.

    Wait no, that’s just you.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/38/Turnerdiariescover.jpg/200px-Turnerdiariescover.jpg
  116. @Mr. Anon
    Perhaps Rand Paul can head down to the border and help build refugee shelters while wearing a "Laredo Republican" T-shirt.

    Interestingly, Laredo has the country’s largest ‘George Washington’s Birthday’ party/party. Really big deal in the town.

  117. @Wilkey
    The number of migrant families crossing the southwest border has once again broken records, with unauthorized entries nearly doubling what they were a year ago, suggesting that the Trump administration’s aggressive policies have not discouraged new migration to the United States.

    Note the language: all of the "aggression" is on the part of a country seeking to keep non-citizens from entering illegally. The people entering that country illegally are portrayed as entering peacefully.

    This is f***ing insanity.

    This is f***ing insanity.

    Not really.

    It’s insane by the standards of “what’s best for a people? or nation?” logical reasoning.

    But it’s standard issue Jewish ideology. Not insane at all, if you believe you’re entitled to middle-man everywhere and anywhere and feel more comfortable with state enforced diversity, rather than a coherent native population that might find your behavior annoying or organize in its own interests.

    Nor insane from the perspective of de-racinated globalist oligarchs like Bezos, who likewise want to operate without any popular pushback. (Of course, it is insane from the perspective of their long term genetic interest–the health of the nation their descendents, who generations out won’t be rich oligarchs, will live in.)

    Nor insane from the perspective of the “state party”–in our case Democrat–apparatchiks, for whom diversity creates inevitable conflict and ergo lots of state intervention and management and best of all destroys a coherent national people, and creates of jumble of random tribes and atomized individuals incapable of pushing back against state power.

    These people aren’t insane. Their self-interest is national destruction and they prioritize their self-interest over the existence–and happiness, prosperity and survival–of nations. These people aren’t insane, they are evil.

  118. If only some large group of people professionally trained to prevent invasions and protect borders existed. We could provide them with advanced technology, aircraft, weapons, and authority to block passage and kill violators.

    Nope. Can’t think of anything like that might work.

  119. @Mr McKenna

    Trump understated the situation. It is a Bum Rush on the Border, an invasion by any other name.
     
    The protest is often made: If it's an invasion, where are their weapons?

    To which I reply: They don't need weapons.

    The protest is often made: If it’s an invasion, where are their weapons?

    In the hands of their sponsors in the US government who threaten to shoot those who would protect our border.

    Hell, yes, it is an invasion,. and it is indeed an armed invasion.

  120. @Harry Baldwin
    No doubt Rand Paul wants to head down to the border and start registering those Central Americans as Republicans, as with his phenomenally successful African American outreach program in Detroit in 2013. He's the new Jack Kemp!

    Paul also spoke Friday about what he called a "21st-century civil rights agenda" involving education and prison reform in another attempt at reaching inner city minorities. "We need to be a more diverse party," Paul said. "If you want to win, it's just practically the only way you ever win again... "We need people in our party that don't all have ties on. We need people with tattoos. We need people without tattoos. We need people with pony tails, earrings. We need people from all different walks of life. All different colors. All different creeds. And the Democratic Party is more diverse than us. That's why they're winning more elections."
     
    https://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/2013/12/sen_rand_paul_in_detroit_repub.html

    No doubt Rand Paul wants to head down to the border and start registering those Central Americans as Republicans, as with his phenomenally successful African American outreach program in Detroit in 2013. He’s the new Jack Kemp!

    To determine if that is the case, we would need to know how many minorities Paul has showered with.

    If that sounds strange, the explanation can be found by google-ing: Kemp Gingrich Shower

  121. @Achmed E. Newman

    You might not lose just my vote, Mr. President … you might also lose me as a revenue stream.
     
    Nobody cares anymore on this end. They're borrowing money at < 2% interest. It's a steal, man! (How will we pay it back? Quit asking those pesky, wonky questions! I'm a big-picture guy.)

    The problem is they keep sending me love letters.

  122. @Jack Hanson
    Lol no. Sorry Ball Gag Crew, but the same people who were screaming about an amnesty on November 8th, 2016 and never stopped aren't suddenly right because Princess Kushner took over the WH around the same time of the Kavenaugh hearings.

    New data necessitates new conclusions. That being said, the eeyores are mostly aging boomers who won't survive the coming Troubles. You should have hoped I was right and the system could be changed into something better than the terminal decline of the neoliberal order. Obviously it can't, but the current "rule by technocrat" has the structural strength of spun sugar and is unsustainable for another decade, let alone the long run.

    Oh well. Onwards to Hell, and to see what tomorrow brings. Some of us will see the dawn.

    “are mostly aging boomers who won’t survive the coming Troubles”

    Oh yeah Americans are just itching to start killing each other. Especially the boomers who hog all the sweet reverse mortgages.

    Wait no, that’s just you.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    Lot, in between claiming with a straight face that Russia interferes more than Israel, you can't seem to grok that when Globohomo comes crashing down its going to be a Hobbesian hell of all against all.

    You'd figure for someone so keen to brag about Jewish IQ you'd understand a bit of nuance.

  123. Anonymous[112] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    This reminds me of the 1920s tests that found Jews to be a low-IQ population.
     
    Cite?

    This is a routine Jewish IQ-denialist talking point. But in the 20s the evil gentiles were also quotaing "deserving" Jews out of Harvard, so they wouldn't swallow up the joint. Kinda hard to square these two claims.

    IIRC, the Nazis banned IQ tests.

  124. @Lot
    “are mostly aging boomers who won’t survive the coming Troubles”

    Oh yeah Americans are just itching to start killing each other. Especially the boomers who hog all the sweet reverse mortgages.

    Wait no, that’s just you.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/38/Turnerdiariescover.jpg/200px-Turnerdiariescover.jpg

    Lot, in between claiming with a straight face that Russia interferes more than Israel, you can’t seem to grok that when Globohomo comes crashing down its going to be a Hobbesian hell of all against all.

    You’d figure for someone so keen to brag about Jewish IQ you’d understand a bit of nuance.

    • Replies: @Lot
    “Lot, in between claiming with a straight face that Russia interferes more than Israel”

    Never said that in about 20 comments on the topic.

    I agree with Steve’s take.

    Russia spent a laughably small amount trying to get Bernie to win the primary and Trump to win the general given than Hillary was an insanely aggro Russian bear baiter.

    A lot of what they did seemed to be probing weaknesses for future use. They made hundreds of facebook ads, but only spent like $6 on many of them.
  125. @eah
    So, do you know what language the tests were administered in?

    I assume it was English since they compared the results to those of "native-born Americans" -- since this is the USA, doing the assessment/comparison in English would make sense, right? -- and there's nothing inappropriate about that.

    ...you’ve seen their English improve?

    No, not really -- but then I did not pay close attention to that, and re particular individuals, I often did not hang around a company long enough -- many of these people speak their native language both with friends/colleagues and at home -- so in my experience improvement in English was basically not happening -- and there were people like me to take up that slack, eg to handle communication with other companies.

    From age 12 to 18 I travelled rightwards across most of the ol’ bell curve.

    If you say so -- you're a living example of the Flynn Effect then I guess -- on steroids.

    If you say so — you’re a living example of the Flynn Effect then I guess

    No. I didn’t get any smarter (for my age), and that’s the whole point. I simply learned English.

  126. @AnotherDad

    This reminds me of the 1920s tests that found Jews to be a low-IQ population.
     
    Cite?

    This is a routine Jewish IQ-denialist talking point. But in the 20s the evil gentiles were also quotaing "deserving" Jews out of Harvard, so they wouldn't swallow up the joint. Kinda hard to square these two claims.

    I had to google this, and sift through lots of politically biased junk. So it looks like there are two sources. One was a study by Goddard that was maliciously misinterpreted years later by Leon Kamin, who was part of the Steven J Gould circle of politically-motivated frauds.

    The other was an intelligence test administered by the WW1 US Army to millions of recruits, and which found Russian immigrants to be of low intelligence. At that time, most immigrants from Russia were Jewish.

    There’s no contradiction between that and Harvard’s quotas. Most American Jews then were recent immigrants, but many were not, and that was the relevant population for Harvard.

    See how you do on this mini IQ test in French:
    https://www.123test.com/fr/test-de-qi/

  127. Lot says:
    @Jack Hanson
    Lot, in between claiming with a straight face that Russia interferes more than Israel, you can't seem to grok that when Globohomo comes crashing down its going to be a Hobbesian hell of all against all.

    You'd figure for someone so keen to brag about Jewish IQ you'd understand a bit of nuance.

    “Lot, in between claiming with a straight face that Russia interferes more than Israel”

    Never said that in about 20 comments on the topic.

    I agree with Steve’s take.

    Russia spent a laughably small amount trying to get Bernie to win the primary and Trump to win the general given than Hillary was an insanely aggro Russian bear baiter.

    A lot of what they did seemed to be probing weaknesses for future use. They made hundreds of facebook ads, but only spent like $6 on many of them.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    You must be Steve's new son, since he's super sensitive to critiques leveled against you and whims at will.
  128. @Achmed E. Newman
    That sounds very, very enticing, Mr. Donut, especially for a single guy. However, as I tried my best to explain to Fredrico Reedisimo, of Ole Mehico, in "Down to the Banana Republics", it's all good until the US Dollar goes down the toilet. Did you hear about the guard across the street at ~ 5 mins. in? Yeah, well, when your SS check for $1500 doesn't cover the expenses anymore, as it did in the video, he may not want to guard you anymore.

    That $2 weekly cost for the woman to do all your laundry (not in the video)? You may be the 2 dollar guy doing people's laundry. One more thing: when the SHTF, the population down in Ecuador may be quite ready for that sort of thing. You, especially you all with families, may not be ready, but more importantly, the locals may decide that you, the gringo, are to blame, no matter how many posts you've written disparaging the Federal Reserve on your blog!

    Oh, I never saw anything in the video about how many guns I can keep in these low-cost beautiful residences.

    When the SHTF it won’t make any difference where you live . As to guns we won’t have any here in 5-10 years at the outside . Look at the Yellow Vests in France throwing rocks at the state’s thugs , dogs everyone of them . You can’t take The Winter Palace with rocks . Macron should be hanging by his feet at some Shell gas station by now . As long as whitey can come home from work and doze off in front of the TV with a full stomach he won’t acknowledge or resist the fate being prepared for him by the “tribal elders” .

  129. @Anonymous
    Repost: "'Heredity racist" Jason Richwine published this week a report, meant to prove that immigrant groups "with a college or advanced degree are scoring the same on standardized literacy tests as native-born Americans with just a high-school diploma" (per his Twitter). Apparently, this is all too similar to his Harvard PhD dissertation where he "proved" that illegal Hispanic immigrants have substandard IQ. Back then, he claimed that low IQ persists over generation, as if illegal immigration is a genetic event. Ten years later, he claims that even immigrants with US degrees are inferior ("one in six foreign-degree holders score below basic in numeracy", per his report).

    His tables are somewhat confusing. US natives scores are listed as bachelors, advanced degrees, and overall average of above-high school. But immigrants are listed only as "all above above-high school" and "BSc only". This "apples vs oranges" allowed Richwine "prove" his point. For example, the numeracy score for all US natives with college degree or higher is 296 on a OECD-sanctioned numeracy test, whereas immigrants with US degrees in the same category scored 292, and immigrants with foreign degrees scored only 273. Similarly, bachelors-only scored higher if they were US natives.

    I calculated the missing data point, that is, the comparison of advanced degrees holders. Turns out, in this group, native US participants scored 301, but immigrants with an US degree scored 308. Now, more than half of the "immigrants with an US degree" turned out to have an advanced degree, so, if the study population is representative, it's probably the group you'd want to highlight. I'd like to blame Richwine's omission on second-class numeracy, but, based on his putative high literacy, I'd rather go for blatant cherry picking. "

    Well you certainly picked your moniker aptly, “Wank” is right.

    Apparently, this is all too similar to his Harvard PhD dissertation where he “proved” that illegal Hispanic immigrants have substandard IQ. Back then, he claimed that low IQ persists over generation, as if illegal immigration is a genetic event.

    This comment is so bone-chillingly stupid, it earns your “Wank” moniker all by itself.

    Of course, Richwine never said or implied illegal immigration was a “genetic event”. But Hispanic illegals are a particular group–like the famine Irish, or Great Wave Ashkenazi or Italians, or American blacks, or Scots Irish. And like any group it has a particular distribution of genetic intelligence. (Or if you like genes that result in such and such IQ scores with current American nutrition, medical care and schooling.) And the Hispanic illegals in fact are on average genetically low IQ relative to the native American population, as demonstrated by the performance of their children, who have not exactly set the American school system on fire with their performance.

    His tables are somewhat confusing. US natives scores are listed as bachelors, advanced degrees, and overall average of above-high school. But immigrants are listed only as “all above above-high school” and “BSc only”. This “apples vs oranges” allowed Richwine “prove” his point.

    This is nonsense. His tables, normed to US native percentile ranks are some of the easiest to read and understant that one ever gets and the apples-to-apples comparisons are easy to make.

    The issue of English language skill as a metric of other skills is ever present. But it’s not irrelevant to what the immigrants can do in the labor market in the US. And the numeracy scores skirt around–mostly–that question.

    His main assertion about the low bar associated with foreign degrees, just pops out. It in no sense relies on any apples to oranges comparison.

    Your point that Richwine should have broken out the immigrant advanced degree group, i agree with. But again it doesn’t make the comparisons he actually makes the slightest bit invalid. He may well have hidden it for the “cherry picking” reason you note–the US advanced degreed immigrants score a bit better in numeracy than US advanced degree natives. The main reason for this is probably accounted for by the reason Steve hints at–more US advanced degrees are in b.s. fields. In fact, Richwine points that out in the text and offers a footnote for the stat:

    10 In the 2017 American Community Survey, about 37.5 percent of college-educated immigrants (ages 25 to 64) have Science, Technology, Engineering, or Mathematics (STEM) degrees, compared to 19.4 percent of natives.

    If you compared STEM to STEM, even that advantage would probably vanish.

    Richwine’s wrap is balanced, quite sound and supported by his data:

    Although skilled immigration may be desirable, policy-makers must be cautious in using foreign degrees as proof of those skills. This report has shown that immigrants with foreign degrees perform substantially worse than U.S. degree holders on tests of literacy, numeracy, and computer operations. In some cases, the gaps are so large that immigrants with foreign college degrees have skills that resemble those of natives who have only a high school diploma. Although poor English clearly plays a role in the disparity — and a command of English is essential for success in most high-skill occupations in the United States — the disparity persists even among immigrants who have had at least five years to learn English after arriving.

    In Congress, some proposed immigration reforms acknowledge the greater value of U.S. degrees. For example, the RAISE Act would establish a points system for high-skill immigrants that prioritizes U.S. degrees over foreign degrees. It would also go beyond educational credentials by giving extra points for English fluency, STEM specialties, and pre-arranged employment. Ultimately, policy-makers should consider making skill selection even more direct. Universities, the foreign service, and the military have been using standardized testing for decades to evaluate applicants. For example, people who want to do advanced study in important subjects such as biology, chemistry, and physics need to take the Graduate Record Exam (GRE) to demonstrate their knowledge and preparation. Perhaps Congress could integrate similar tests into a truly high-skill immigration system.

    In contrast you state:

    Now, more than half of the “immigrants with an US degree” turned out to have an advanced degree, so, if the study population is representative, it’s probably the group you’d want to highlight.

    I.e. you want to “cherry pick” US-advanced degreed immigrants.

    Fine. But you don’t get to piggy back all degreed immigrants on this group. The high ratio of US-degreed immigrants with advanced degrees (who indeed score well in numeracy), but the just so-so performance of even the US-degreed immigrants as a whole, points out the mediocrity of even the US-degreed college-only immigrants. They score, even in numeracy, only at the 59%tile, well below the results for college-only US natives and actually closer to US “some college” natives (i.e. college dropouts). As a whole not an impressive addition to the US.

    Highlighting just the advanced degreed ones, sure there you have a reasonably capable group. I know a bunch of very sharp US-advanced-STEM-degreed immigrants. But they are hardly representative of immigration to the US.

    If that–US advanced-degree–was our bar, our immigration would have been < 100k, every year, < 1 million a decade. The US now would have < 5m immigrants instead of 45 million … and pretty much zero issues surrounding immigration, demographic change, demographic driven political change, breaking social cohesion and–the issue Richwine highlights–of immigration making American stupider and less capable.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    I attended this event (and can be seen in the video!). One of the attendees was a woman who worked for a company under contract to the Feds to determine, for instance, if a CS degree from Somalia State was equivalent to a CS degree from MIT. Course work was not looked at.

    Recommendations were made by the staff to professors under contract who job it was to certify the degrees. You will be shocked, shocked I tell you, to know that almost all foreign degrees were approved.

    Another attendee pointed out that in more than a few countries degrees can simply be bought without the tedious business of actually having to learn anything.

  130. @Lot
    “Lot, in between claiming with a straight face that Russia interferes more than Israel”

    Never said that in about 20 comments on the topic.

    I agree with Steve’s take.

    Russia spent a laughably small amount trying to get Bernie to win the primary and Trump to win the general given than Hillary was an insanely aggro Russian bear baiter.

    A lot of what they did seemed to be probing weaknesses for future use. They made hundreds of facebook ads, but only spent like $6 on many of them.

    You must be Steve’s new son, since he’s super sensitive to critiques leveled against you and whims at will.

  131. @AnotherDad
    Well you certainly picked your moniker aptly, "Wank" is right.

    Apparently, this is all too similar to his Harvard PhD dissertation where he “proved” that illegal Hispanic immigrants have substandard IQ. Back then, he claimed that low IQ persists over generation, as if illegal immigration is a genetic event.
     
    This comment is so bone-chillingly stupid, it earns your "Wank" moniker all by itself.

    Of course, Richwine never said or implied illegal immigration was a "genetic event". But Hispanic illegals are a particular group--like the famine Irish, or Great Wave Ashkenazi or Italians, or American blacks, or Scots Irish. And like any group it has a particular distribution of genetic intelligence. (Or if you like genes that result in such and such IQ scores with current American nutrition, medical care and schooling.) And the Hispanic illegals in fact are on average genetically low IQ relative to the native American population, as demonstrated by the performance of their children, who have not exactly set the American school system on fire with their performance.


    His tables are somewhat confusing. US natives scores are listed as bachelors, advanced degrees, and overall average of above-high school. But immigrants are listed only as “all above above-high school” and “BSc only”. This “apples vs oranges” allowed Richwine “prove” his point.
     
    This is nonsense. His tables, normed to US native percentile ranks are some of the easiest to read and understant that one ever gets and the apples-to-apples comparisons are easy to make.

    The issue of English language skill as a metric of other skills is ever present. But it's not irrelevant to what the immigrants can do in the labor market in the US. And the numeracy scores skirt around--mostly--that question.

    His main assertion about the low bar associated with foreign degrees, just pops out. It in no sense relies on any apples to oranges comparison.

    Your point that Richwine should have broken out the immigrant advanced degree group, i agree with. But again it doesn't make the comparisons he actually makes the slightest bit invalid. He may well have hidden it for the "cherry picking" reason you note--the US advanced degreed immigrants score a bit better in numeracy than US advanced degree natives. The main reason for this is probably accounted for by the reason Steve hints at--more US advanced degrees are in b.s. fields. In fact, Richwine points that out in the text and offers a footnote for the stat:


    10 In the 2017 American Community Survey, about 37.5 percent of college-educated immigrants (ages 25 to 64) have Science, Technology, Engineering, or Mathematics (STEM) degrees, compared to 19.4 percent of natives.
     
    If you compared STEM to STEM, even that advantage would probably vanish.


    Richwine's wrap is balanced, quite sound and supported by his data:


    Although skilled immigration may be desirable, policy-makers must be cautious in using foreign degrees as proof of those skills. This report has shown that immigrants with foreign degrees perform substantially worse than U.S. degree holders on tests of literacy, numeracy, and computer operations. In some cases, the gaps are so large that immigrants with foreign college degrees have skills that resemble those of natives who have only a high school diploma. Although poor English clearly plays a role in the disparity — and a command of English is essential for success in most high-skill occupations in the United States — the disparity persists even among immigrants who have had at least five years to learn English after arriving.

    In Congress, some proposed immigration reforms acknowledge the greater value of U.S. degrees. For example, the RAISE Act would establish a points system for high-skill immigrants that prioritizes U.S. degrees over foreign degrees. It would also go beyond educational credentials by giving extra points for English fluency, STEM specialties, and pre-arranged employment. Ultimately, policy-makers should consider making skill selection even more direct. Universities, the foreign service, and the military have been using standardized testing for decades to evaluate applicants. For example, people who want to do advanced study in important subjects such as biology, chemistry, and physics need to take the Graduate Record Exam (GRE) to demonstrate their knowledge and preparation. Perhaps Congress could integrate similar tests into a truly high-skill immigration system.
     

    In contrast you state:

    Now, more than half of the “immigrants with an US degree” turned out to have an advanced degree, so, if the study population is representative, it’s probably the group you’d want to highlight.
     
    I.e. you want to "cherry pick" US-advanced degreed immigrants.

    Fine. But you don't get to piggy back all degreed immigrants on this group. The high ratio of US-degreed immigrants with advanced degrees (who indeed score well in numeracy), but the just so-so performance of even the US-degreed immigrants as a whole, points out the mediocrity of even the US-degreed college-only immigrants. They score, even in numeracy, only at the 59%tile, well below the results for college-only US natives and actually closer to US "some college" natives (i.e. college dropouts). As a whole not an impressive addition to the US.

    Highlighting just the advanced degreed ones, sure there you have a reasonably capable group. I know a bunch of very sharp US-advanced-STEM-degreed immigrants. But they are hardly representative of immigration to the US.

    If that--US advanced-degree--was our bar, our immigration would have been < 100k, every year, < 1 million a decade. The US now would have < 5m immigrants instead of 45 million ... and pretty much zero issues surrounding immigration, demographic change, demographic driven political change, breaking social cohesion and--the issue Richwine highlights--of immigration making American stupider and less capable.

    I attended this event (and can be seen in the video!). One of the attendees was a woman who worked for a company under contract to the Feds to determine, for instance, if a CS degree from Somalia State was equivalent to a CS degree from MIT. Course work was not looked at.

    Recommendations were made by the staff to professors under contract who job it was to certify the degrees. You will be shocked, shocked I tell you, to know that almost all foreign degrees were approved.

    Another attendee pointed out that in more than a few countries degrees can simply be bought without the tedious business of actually having to learn anything.

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