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In a surprise announcement this afternoon, Senator Elizabeth Warren was awarded the Nobel Prize for medicine / physiology for dispelling decades of “Race is just a social construct” obfuscations by demonstrating that race is a scientific biological reality that can increasingly be measured down to tiny fractions. The citation lauds Senator Warren for her breakthrough discovery of the racial elementary particle now known as the “micro-smidgen.”

 
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  1. The Cherokee Nation weighs in:

    “A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person’s ancestors were indigenous to North or South America,” Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin Jr. said. “Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage.”

    http://www.cherokee.org/News/Stories/20181015_Cherokee-Nation-responds-to-Senator-Warrens-DNA-test

    • Replies: @Polynikes
    Is that real? Not sure how many pokemon points Indians get these days, but that's pretty damming.
    , @Don't Look at Me
    As Steve has shown us, tribal membership has higher standards because they don't want to spread that casino money too thin. However, for diversity point and affirmative action benefits, you wouldn't have to qualify for tribal membership to reap the rewards of being a minority.

    That being said, Senator Warren's percentage of NA ancestry is probably less than that of your average non-Hispanic white American. So she isn't an Indian.
  2. And some misogynist bastards say broads can’t do science!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    LOL
  3. ”In a surprise announcement this afternoon, Senator Elizabeth Warren was awarded the Nobel Prize for medicine / physiology”

    Steve Sailer

    Blogger and journalist

    PolitiFact Rating: FALSE

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
    Wow Mr Genius! Can't get nothing past you!
    , @El Dato

    PolitiFact Rating: FALSE
     
    It's actually TRUTHY.
    , @bomag
    Thanks for showing us that some people don't do humor.
  4. I am Rachel Dolezal and I disapprove of this message.

    • LOL: Rosie, Liza
    • Replies: @forgottenpseudonym
    If you are Rachel Dolezal, I am Spartacus. Or am I Cory Booker? Identity is fluid, race is a construct, and sex ... what's that? Is this the way to the bookstore?
  5. Elizabeth is luckier than most of us. Given that she’s 0.4% native American, she’s morally required to give only 99.6% of her land back to the Indians.

  6. OT: they’ve caught another hateful Becky. Seems like an endless supply. Will the media soon have assigned Get Becky beats?

    Missouri Woman Fired For Blocking Black Man From Entering Apartment Complex

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/missouri-woman-fired-blocking-black-113940655.html

    • Replies: @Desiderius

    OT: they’ve caught another hateful Becky
     
    OT?
  7. • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    Buddah beat you:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1JebAsI-bM

  8. anon[693] • Disclaimer says:

    Marginally on-topic:
    Clearchannel has been pimping their “Spit” (sic, ugh) podcast produced with 23andme, wherein some comedian talks with musicians about genomic analysis. Yes, Wyclef Jean, I’m verrry interested in your take on the most recent GWAS studies…

    Anyways, the soundbites from the promo have our fearless artists opining on the lame trope that “all this DNA testing shows how the SAME we really are!” Normally I wouldn’t pay attention because clearchannel is circling the drain and grasping at relevance, but I do find it odd that a company whose product is literally quantifying to the tenth of a percent how different you are from everyone would be funding this nonsense.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    They are covering their asses necause their very existence is an abomination in the eyes of many.
  9. Semi-related: 23andme is a great deal even at the full price of $199, but they have a big price cut the last few years for black friday, it was $99 last year. The more relatives you do, the more useful and interesting the info.

    Data from 23andme users who opt into anonymous research sharing and fill out site surveys have also powered many of the interesting, HBD-vindicating GWAS studies Steve has featured recently.

    The ancestry info is probably the most immediately interesting, but the health and disease risk info is also very good.

    • Replies: @Talleyrand
    I think not. Not even if 23and me paid me. Interesting and useful information indeed. Interesting and useful to whom?
    , @Jliw
    I haven't seen him post about any GWAS recently, but maybe I missed it -- how recent were these?
  10. Steve,

    To personalize the aphorism a little:

    HOISTED BY HER OWN PETARD.

  11. Wow, first squaw to receive a Nobel. Case of beer!

    What’s the Matter Here?

  12. I really wish she would modify her favorite catchphrase: “the middle class is being hammered”, using “hatchet” as a verb.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    THE MIDDLE CLASS IS BEING SCALPED!
    , @Crawfurdmuir

    I really wish she would modify her favorite catchphrase: “the middle class is being hammered”, using “hatchet” as a verb.
     
    Lizzie Warren took an axe,
    To scalp the public with a tax,
    She'll do it with her little hatchet,
    No real Indian could ever match it.
    Our capital she'll skin and pull,
    Factitious Princess Spreading Bull.

    As they say in Indian country - Ugh!

  13. A simple angle I haven’t seen covered yet. In pics of Warren in her undergrad years, her hair was *dark* black. Now it’s sandy blonde. At what point in her life was/is she dying it? Having dyed black hair when she was trying to pass as Injun is awful suspicious.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    I think she was dying it at both points. In her childhood pictures she has light brown hair so she probably dyed it black to look Indian as a young woman, then started dying it sandy when she turned grey. She doesn’t have the face/complexion of someone with naturally black hair.
    , @Jefferson
    "A simple angle I haven’t seen covered yet. In pics of Warren in her undergrad years, her hair was *dark* black. Now it’s sandy blonde. At what point in her life was/is she dying it? Having dyed black hair when she was trying to pass as Injun is awful suspicious."

    If all it takes is black hair to claim Native American status does that mean Italian actor Joe Mantegna for example can claim to be Native American? After all he has black hair.

    http://i89.servimg.com/u/f89/11/19/51/25/bzoptg11.jpg
    , @Jack D
    Elizabeth Warren in high school:

    https://starsinformer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Elizabeth-Warren-in-younger-days.jpg

    Elizabeth Warren as Heap Big Rising Law Professor:

    https://static.texastribune.org/media/images/2016/07/12/Warren-001.JPG

    Elizabeth Warren refusing Marlon Brando's Oscar:

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bQ-jCoaNhtc/VvR76z3EhrI/AAAAAAAADGk/wFdiFkYL0b0FyjLLi_PNY3KeCJDbAzKrA/s400/sacheen-e1352302104689.jpg

    Just kidding. #3 is Sacheen Cruz Littlefeather, aka Marie Louise Cruz

    Not only does she have it dyed inky black but she has it parted in the middle which is supposed to remind you of Indian style, minus the braids. The braids would have been over the top.

  14. Warren is just another word for… rabbit hole.

    • Replies: @Lot
    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Stavro-Ernst-Blofeld.png

    https://isteve.blogspot.com/2007/03/rabbit-vs-raptor-update.html
    , @Dissident

    Warren is just another word for… rabbit hole.
     
    Perhaps President Trump could be thought of as Elmer Fudd?
  15. Anonymous[135] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s of course rubbish. The true measure (if we are to believe the Indians are victims) is whether anyone would recognize her as an Indian. Say what you will about Canada, they may be eyeballs deep in liberalism but at least they’re logically consistent. Their policy is based around whether someone is a visible minority. If everyone looking at Warren sees a late middle aged white woman then it’s hard to believe people would tend to be discriminating against her for being an Indian. For being white, yes, but she already recognized that and fauxahontas threw her lot in with the “savages” voluntarily.

    That being said I tend to be extremely skeptical about the genetic results. The geneticist claims that x centimorgans distance is Indian. But what he’s really saying is some hypervariable areas more closely matched to what his database listed as Indian. But how good is his database? These are notoriously poor for NonWhites. And there is another big reason- they draw their data from pools of local populations to get results. That may work okay for finding rural groups of say Basques or Finns but American Indians? You go to a reservation and start taking samples, how sure can you really be you’re getting 100% Indians? Seriously. At best she just had a partial match to someone who calls themselves an Indian these days, quite possibly not Indian regions at all.

    What’s more, centimorgans are not so clearly equal to a defined number of basepairs of DNA yet this is how the comparison for calculating percentage is made. If truly Indian it could be an even lower percentage of the genome. But while we’re on percentages, what also constitutes the error rates here? We’re just supposed to take this guy’s word? Where’s the data? People can fiddle all kinds of ways with data. And as I’ve pointed out even the reference database is highly important. Given how much dishonesty is the rule rather than the exception when it comes to liberals and facts related to liberal talking points, many of whom have prestigious degrees and alma maters, why should we ever take their word at face value? A you can just take my word on it, especially from a liberal as the support for their argument is worth about as much as Obama’s race healing overtures.

  16. Unworthy of a thread but Stormy Daniels’ suit against a certain restorer of greatness was thrown out and she now has to pay his legal fees.
    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/15/stormy-daniels-trump-libel-suit-903152

    • Replies: @Dissident

    Unworthy of a thread but Stormy Daniels’ suit against a certain restorer of greatness was thrown out and she now has to pay his legal fees.
     
    Without wishing to comment at this point on the particular matter you raised, I will avail myself of this opportunity to share a thought I recently had concerning the recently-concluded Kavanaugh spectacle. The thought is simply this: I would relish an opportunity to see Kavanaugh bring a libel/defamation suit against Ford and any number of her accomplices.
  17. So she’s going to run for president in the 2020 cycle, it’s official.

  18. @Reg Cæsar
    Warren is just another word for... rabbit hole.

    http://www.newsbiscuit.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/warren-1160x653.jpg

    https://www.lexisnexis.com/LegalNewsRoom/resized-image/__size/1040x871/__key/telligent-evolution-components-attachments/13-11-00-00-00-00-09-78/Alice-in-Wonderland-rabbit-hole.jpg

    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
    If Steve dyed his hair to its original color he could pass for 35 (no homo).
    , @miss marple
    I'm considering adding either a guinea pig or a lop-eared bunny to the family next year. How long can I expect a rabbit to live?
  19. well, Pocahontas may not be real ‘Murkan Indian,

    but she’s not a “Warren” either:

    that’s the last name of a dead guy she’s no longer married to.

    In fact, it’s one of the original came-over-on-the-Mayflower names.

    so Lieawatha is both fake Indian and fake Boston Brahmin.

    • Agree: Nicholas Stix
  20. @Lot
    Semi-related: 23andme is a great deal even at the full price of $199, but they have a big price cut the last few years for black friday, it was $99 last year. The more relatives you do, the more useful and interesting the info.

    Data from 23andme users who opt into anonymous research sharing and fill out site surveys have also powered many of the interesting, HBD-vindicating GWAS studies Steve has featured recently.

    The ancestry info is probably the most immediately interesting, but the health and disease risk info is also very good.

    I think not. Not even if 23and me paid me. Interesting and useful information indeed. Interesting and useful to whom?

  21. Senator Warren must really love Steve Sailer to have given him this gift of another million-page-view month.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Senators Feinstein too.
    , @Iberiano
    Just think of how happy the various Ancestry companies must be...people brimming with excitement that they too, may be 1/32, to 1/64th, to 1/1024th Native American...time to get tested...and to buy that lottery ticket!
  22. @Tom
    A simple angle I haven't seen covered yet. In pics of Warren in her undergrad years, her hair was *dark* black. Now it's sandy blonde. At what point in her life was/is she dying it? Having dyed black hair when she was trying to pass as Injun is awful suspicious.

    I think she was dying it at both points. In her childhood pictures she has light brown hair so she probably dyed it black to look Indian as a young woman, then started dying it sandy when she turned grey. She doesn’t have the face/complexion of someone with naturally black hair.

  23. @songbird
    I really wish she would modify her favorite catchphrase: "the middle class is being hammered", using "hatchet" as a verb.

    THE MIDDLE CLASS IS BEING SCALPED!

    • LOL: songbird
    • Replies: @Dissident
    songbird:

    I really wish she would modify her favorite catchphrase: “the middle class is being hammered”, using “hatchet” as a verb.
     
    The Anti-Gnostic:

    THE MIDDLE CLASS IS BEING SCALPED!
     
    That's great!
  24. @Lot
    Semi-related: 23andme is a great deal even at the full price of $199, but they have a big price cut the last few years for black friday, it was $99 last year. The more relatives you do, the more useful and interesting the info.

    Data from 23andme users who opt into anonymous research sharing and fill out site surveys have also powered many of the interesting, HBD-vindicating GWAS studies Steve has featured recently.

    The ancestry info is probably the most immediately interesting, but the health and disease risk info is also very good.

    I haven’t seen him post about any GWAS recently, but maybe I missed it — how recent were these?

  25. @ChrisZ
    Senator Warren must really love Steve Sailer to have given him this gift of another million-page-view month.

    Senators Feinstein too.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    Steve, are you voting for DiFi this year? She's 85 and wobbly. DeLeon is 51 and likely to plague us for the rest of our lives.

    I may just vote for a Democrat for the first time in my life. My husband voted for a Democrat in NYC just to oppose Dinkins in the primary.
  26. @ChrisZ
    Senator Warren must really love Steve Sailer to have given him this gift of another million-page-view month.

    Just think of how happy the various Ancestry companies must be…people brimming with excitement that they too, may be 1/32, to 1/64th, to 1/1024th Native American…time to get tested…and to buy that lottery ticket!

  27. @Tom
    A simple angle I haven't seen covered yet. In pics of Warren in her undergrad years, her hair was *dark* black. Now it's sandy blonde. At what point in her life was/is she dying it? Having dyed black hair when she was trying to pass as Injun is awful suspicious.

    “A simple angle I haven’t seen covered yet. In pics of Warren in her undergrad years, her hair was *dark* black. Now it’s sandy blonde. At what point in her life was/is she dying it? Having dyed black hair when she was trying to pass as Injun is awful suspicious.”

    If all it takes is black hair to claim Native American status does that mean Italian actor Joe Mantegna for example can claim to be Native American? After all he has black hair.

    • Replies: @Sarah Toga
    the claimant would also need to demonstrate skill sets of The First Nations Peoples:
    - Bareback horse riding;
    - Bow and arrow making;
    - Stampeding herds of American Bison over a cliff to kill them en mass;
    (but no wheels and no reading/writing)
    you know, the usual markers of authenticity.
  28. @Anon7
    The Cherokee Nation weighs in:

    "A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person’s ancestors were indigenous to North or South America," Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin Jr. said. "Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage."

    http://www.cherokee.org/News/Stories/20181015_Cherokee-Nation-responds-to-Senator-Warrens-DNA-test

     

    Is that real? Not sure how many pokemon points Indians get these days, but that’s pretty damming.

  29. @TheBoom
    OT: they've caught another hateful Becky. Seems like an endless supply. Will the media soon have assigned Get Becky beats?

    Missouri Woman Fired For Blocking Black Man From Entering Apartment Complex

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/missouri-woman-fired-blocking-black-113940655.html

    OT: they’ve caught another hateful Becky

    OT?

  30. @Lot
    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Stavro-Ernst-Blofeld.png

    https://isteve.blogspot.com/2007/03/rabbit-vs-raptor-update.html

    If Steve dyed his hair to its original color he could pass for 35 (no homo).

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "If Steve dyed his hair to its original color he could pass for 35 (no homo)."

    59 year old Steve Sailer would not look 35 even if he dyed his hair.

    If you want an example of someone in their late 50s who still look 35 it would be Scott Baio and Ralph Macchio for example. They either found the fountain of youth or made a pact with the devil.

  31. @adreadline
    ''In a surprise announcement this afternoon, Senator Elizabeth Warren was awarded the Nobel Prize for medicine / physiology''

    Steve Sailer

    Blogger and journalist

    PolitiFact Rating: FALSE

    Wow Mr Genius! Can’t get nothing past you!

  32. She deserves the NP in economics too — the boost to the ‘privilege’ and ‘grievance’ industries should increase GDP significantly.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I was also thinking about this. The average white person has 5-10x as much Neanderthal DNA as Elizabeth Warren claims to have Amerindian DNA. And if that’s not bad enough this is her best case scenario. She went to a private individual to have this estimation made, none of the results are actually publicly available for scrutiny. So who knows how he actually arrived at the results.
  33. @Tom
    A simple angle I haven't seen covered yet. In pics of Warren in her undergrad years, her hair was *dark* black. Now it's sandy blonde. At what point in her life was/is she dying it? Having dyed black hair when she was trying to pass as Injun is awful suspicious.

    Elizabeth Warren in high school:

    Elizabeth Warren as Heap Big Rising Law Professor:

    Elizabeth Warren refusing Marlon Brando’s Oscar:

    Just kidding. #3 is Sacheen Cruz Littlefeather, aka Marie Louise Cruz

    Not only does she have it dyed inky black but she has it parted in the middle which is supposed to remind you of Indian style, minus the braids. The braids would have been over the top.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Wow.

    Pelosi, Feinstein, and now Warren.

    Hot chicks gone wrong(ish). Wonder what the dynamic is there.
    , @Jefferson
    Her last name is Cruz, can Hispanics with Indigenous ancestry also claim casino money or is casino money limited to Gringos with Indigenous ancestry?


    By the way that woman today lives in Silicon Valley and she is on welfare living off tech workers tax dollars.
    , @Jefferson
    In picture 2 Elizabeth Warren rocking the Ruth Buzzi hairstyle from Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    "she has it parted in the middle which is supposed to remind you of Indian style, minus the braids"

    Not really. Nearly every female (and a fair lot of males) with straight hair had it styled like that in the early 70s.
    , @Sarah Toga
    methinks it may be she saw more of a future in being a Jackie than in being a Marilyn.

    As in when Warner dumped Elle in Legally Blonde.

    Jamming on the riff of "she used to be a Marilyn", if Lizzie really was a Marilyn back in the day, can you imagine the oppo research?
    hubba hubba !!
    , @Steve Sailer
    The fashion around 1970 was for very long very straight hair, which is kind of American Indian looking, although the ideal was was to be fairer, like Susan Dey in the Partridge Family.
  34. @Lot
    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Stavro-Ernst-Blofeld.png

    https://isteve.blogspot.com/2007/03/rabbit-vs-raptor-update.html

    I’m considering adding either a guinea pig or a lop-eared bunny to the family next year. How long can I expect a rabbit to live?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    I raised several and they routinely got past ten years; I don't think I had one older than 12, but have heard of them reaching 15. In the wild, they're lucky to live to two or three.
    They will require almost as much attention as a human baby in the first few months. Touch them often and pick them up so they get used to being carried. If there are noises or people in your life, introduce them early.
    I taught signals so human actions weren't completely out of the blue:
    >[Bell ringing] = food, and later summoning. They eventually would find ways to ring the bell themselves.
    >[Dragging inside of lip against edge of front teeth] = tooth purring, the rabbit equivalent of purring. Can also make a soft growling sound in the back of your throat. >This is a sound of approval and rabbits will do it for you when petted. Grunting and snorting means disapproval.
    >Rabbits run around you in a circle while making vroom vroom sounds, as though pretending to be a race car, when you lay down = they love you.
    >Tongue clicking in a dolphin-like pattern = you are about to be picked up and carried.
    >Two brief snorts or coughs = you are about to be placed on the ground (they learn to make this like the bell).
    >NO! = no. Be mean, unambiguous and consistent.
    They learn quickly, and will destroy carpeting, electrical wiring, wallpaper, paper, and upholstery if you are careless.
    They should get more than an hour of supervised exercise a day if caged, but ideally more.
    Stay away from Kay-Tee Random Garbage We Threw In A Bag and feed weeds, grasses and vegetables. Provide chewing medium, especially unfinished wicker, which can be bought cheaply from craft or decor stores.
    Veterinary assistance is weak: these are r-selected food animals and cannot be expected to survive illness or surgery.
    Very rewarding if you can invest the time and protect your cables.
    , @Nicholas Stix
    Until you chop his head off, and marinade him.

    Tastes like chicken.
  35. @J.Ross
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix5BMguydHM

    Buddah beat you:

    • Replies: @Sarah Toga
    . . . was this the inspiration for The Village People ?
  36. @miss marple
    I'm considering adding either a guinea pig or a lop-eared bunny to the family next year. How long can I expect a rabbit to live?

    I raised several and they routinely got past ten years; I don’t think I had one older than 12, but have heard of them reaching 15. In the wild, they’re lucky to live to two or three.
    They will require almost as much attention as a human baby in the first few months. Touch them often and pick them up so they get used to being carried. If there are noises or people in your life, introduce them early.
    I taught signals so human actions weren’t completely out of the blue:
    >[Bell ringing] = food, and later summoning. They eventually would find ways to ring the bell themselves.
    >[Dragging inside of lip against edge of front teeth] = tooth purring, the rabbit equivalent of purring. Can also make a soft growling sound in the back of your throat. >This is a sound of approval and rabbits will do it for you when petted. Grunting and snorting means disapproval.
    >Rabbits run around you in a circle while making vroom vroom sounds, as though pretending to be a race car, when you lay down = they love you.
    >Tongue clicking in a dolphin-like pattern = you are about to be picked up and carried.
    >Two brief snorts or coughs = you are about to be placed on the ground (they learn to make this like the bell).
    >NO! = no. Be mean, unambiguous and consistent.
    They learn quickly, and will destroy carpeting, electrical wiring, wallpaper, paper, and upholstery if you are careless.
    They should get more than an hour of supervised exercise a day if caged, but ideally more.
    Stay away from Kay-Tee Random Garbage We Threw In A Bag and feed weeds, grasses and vegetables. Provide chewing medium, especially unfinished wicker, which can be bought cheaply from craft or decor stores.
    Veterinary assistance is weak: these are r-selected food animals and cannot be expected to survive illness or surgery.
    Very rewarding if you can invest the time and protect your cables.

    • Replies: @miss marple
    Obviously this is a joke to you. Someone around here (thought it was Sailer) has had a couple of pet rabbits. So I was trying to politely ask if it was the same rabbit from ten years ago or a replacement. Of course polite doesn't usually describe the comments on iSteve. It was a bit over much though, doncha think?
    , @Alden
    We had a couple rabbits for a while They weren’t caged. They used a cat litter box on the breeze way. Unfortunately the neighbors dogs f got them. They were sweet and cuddly
    , @Mr. Rational

    these are r-selected food animals and cannot be expected to survive illness or surgery.
     
    Something I saw in a video was a UK guy (can't place his accent better than that) who hunts rabbits and guts them in 2 seconds by literally squeezing the intestines out with one hand.

    I tried it.  It works! (ewww) Squirrels are made of much tougher stuff.

  37. @Jack D
    Elizabeth Warren in high school:

    https://starsinformer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Elizabeth-Warren-in-younger-days.jpg

    Elizabeth Warren as Heap Big Rising Law Professor:

    https://static.texastribune.org/media/images/2016/07/12/Warren-001.JPG

    Elizabeth Warren refusing Marlon Brando's Oscar:

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bQ-jCoaNhtc/VvR76z3EhrI/AAAAAAAADGk/wFdiFkYL0b0FyjLLi_PNY3KeCJDbAzKrA/s400/sacheen-e1352302104689.jpg

    Just kidding. #3 is Sacheen Cruz Littlefeather, aka Marie Louise Cruz

    Not only does she have it dyed inky black but she has it parted in the middle which is supposed to remind you of Indian style, minus the braids. The braids would have been over the top.

    Wow.

    Pelosi, Feinstein, and now Warren.

    Hot chicks gone wrong(ish). Wonder what the dynamic is there.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    Dianne Feinstein was attractive back in the 1970s when she was mayor of San Francisco.
    , @academic gossip
    Ruth Bader Ginsburg is another one. Photo was in a recent comment thread here.

    For a woman to enter politics (or become CEO), even late in life, it helps to have been a social, popular, attractive model-athlete-cheerleader "alpha" type when younger with all the confidence and people skills that correlate. Sarah Palin. Inversely, not Hillary. In NYC right now two of the younger women candidates look good (Alexandria the socialist) and really good (Naomi Levin).
    , @Sarah Toga
    . . . looking at the AZ senate race, that Kyrsten Sinema might have been a dish back in the day.

    (disclaimer - my screen name is a total alias, not a female)
  38. What happened to the Native American preferred nomenclature?

    Did Indians becoming South Asians free that one back up for the redskins?

  39. Blessed are the cheesemakers. She and BHO have that much in common.

  40. @Jack D
    Elizabeth Warren in high school:

    https://starsinformer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Elizabeth-Warren-in-younger-days.jpg

    Elizabeth Warren as Heap Big Rising Law Professor:

    https://static.texastribune.org/media/images/2016/07/12/Warren-001.JPG

    Elizabeth Warren refusing Marlon Brando's Oscar:

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bQ-jCoaNhtc/VvR76z3EhrI/AAAAAAAADGk/wFdiFkYL0b0FyjLLi_PNY3KeCJDbAzKrA/s400/sacheen-e1352302104689.jpg

    Just kidding. #3 is Sacheen Cruz Littlefeather, aka Marie Louise Cruz

    Not only does she have it dyed inky black but she has it parted in the middle which is supposed to remind you of Indian style, minus the braids. The braids would have been over the top.

    Her last name is Cruz, can Hispanics with Indigenous ancestry also claim casino money or is casino money limited to Gringos with Indigenous ancestry?

    By the way that woman today lives in Silicon Valley and she is on welfare living off tech workers tax dollars.

  41. @adreadline
    ''In a surprise announcement this afternoon, Senator Elizabeth Warren was awarded the Nobel Prize for medicine / physiology''

    Steve Sailer

    Blogger and journalist

    PolitiFact Rating: FALSE

    PolitiFact Rating: FALSE

    It’s actually TRUTHY.

  42. @Desiderius
    Wow.

    Pelosi, Feinstein, and now Warren.

    Hot chicks gone wrong(ish). Wonder what the dynamic is there.

    Dianne Feinstein was attractive back in the 1970s when she was mayor of San Francisco.

    • Replies: @Alden
    She was beautiful. Face like Courtney Cox great legs tall slim Snow White coloring. She didn’t photograph well.
  43. @Jack D
    Elizabeth Warren in high school:

    https://starsinformer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Elizabeth-Warren-in-younger-days.jpg

    Elizabeth Warren as Heap Big Rising Law Professor:

    https://static.texastribune.org/media/images/2016/07/12/Warren-001.JPG

    Elizabeth Warren refusing Marlon Brando's Oscar:

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bQ-jCoaNhtc/VvR76z3EhrI/AAAAAAAADGk/wFdiFkYL0b0FyjLLi_PNY3KeCJDbAzKrA/s400/sacheen-e1352302104689.jpg

    Just kidding. #3 is Sacheen Cruz Littlefeather, aka Marie Louise Cruz

    Not only does she have it dyed inky black but she has it parted in the middle which is supposed to remind you of Indian style, minus the braids. The braids would have been over the top.

    In picture 2 Elizabeth Warren rocking the Ruth Buzzi hairstyle from Rowan & Martin’s Laugh-In.

  44. Steve’s current article on Taki illustrates why I sometimes check the ‘Native American’ box on some forms. I was born here and so was my family going back hundreds of years, after all.

    Question: if white people today were suddenly to decide en masse to start checking the other boxes on these forms, would that benefit us overall or be detrimental?

    • Replies: @anon
    I wonder what to tell my kids. They are "legit" 25% Hispanic (maternal grandfather born in Colombia, but 100% European); should I tell them to check that box on college admissions forms? I'm opposed to affirmative action in principle (and frankly they won't need the leg up), but like, why not use it to get in to the hyper selective schools?
  45. @songbird
    I really wish she would modify her favorite catchphrase: "the middle class is being hammered", using "hatchet" as a verb.

    I really wish she would modify her favorite catchphrase: “the middle class is being hammered”, using “hatchet” as a verb.

    Lizzie Warren took an axe,
    To scalp the public with a tax,
    She’ll do it with her little hatchet,
    No real Indian could ever match it.
    Our capital she’ll skin and pull,
    Factitious Princess Spreading Bull.

    As they say in Indian country – Ugh!

    • Replies: @songbird
    If only they had lampooned her on "F Troop."
  46. @Desiderius
    Wow.

    Pelosi, Feinstein, and now Warren.

    Hot chicks gone wrong(ish). Wonder what the dynamic is there.

    Ruth Bader Ginsburg is another one. Photo was in a recent comment thread here.

    For a woman to enter politics (or become CEO), even late in life, it helps to have been a social, popular, attractive model-athlete-cheerleader “alpha” type when younger with all the confidence and people skills that correlate. Sarah Palin. Inversely, not Hillary. In NYC right now two of the younger women candidates look good (Alexandria the socialist) and really good (Naomi Levin).

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Hillary was actually looking pretty good in the run up to the '92 election and shortly thereafter. Then she spent a year with Ira Magaziner and it was all downhill from there.
  47. @academic gossip
    Ruth Bader Ginsburg is another one. Photo was in a recent comment thread here.

    For a woman to enter politics (or become CEO), even late in life, it helps to have been a social, popular, attractive model-athlete-cheerleader "alpha" type when younger with all the confidence and people skills that correlate. Sarah Palin. Inversely, not Hillary. In NYC right now two of the younger women candidates look good (Alexandria the socialist) and really good (Naomi Levin).

    Hillary was actually looking pretty good in the run up to the ’92 election and shortly thereafter. Then she spent a year with Ira Magaziner and it was all downhill from there.

    • Replies: @academic gossip
    Peak Hillary, with straight long hair and bangs, looks like a slightly wider-faced Rebecca de Mornay. Looking through an image search, I think she improved considerably from her teens to her late 20's.

    She probably wasn't the classic sociable alpha female type, more of a high IQ student government wonk who learned political skills from 10000 hours of practice on friendly controlled audiences (and observing Bill).

  48. @J.Ross
    I raised several and they routinely got past ten years; I don't think I had one older than 12, but have heard of them reaching 15. In the wild, they're lucky to live to two or three.
    They will require almost as much attention as a human baby in the first few months. Touch them often and pick them up so they get used to being carried. If there are noises or people in your life, introduce them early.
    I taught signals so human actions weren't completely out of the blue:
    >[Bell ringing] = food, and later summoning. They eventually would find ways to ring the bell themselves.
    >[Dragging inside of lip against edge of front teeth] = tooth purring, the rabbit equivalent of purring. Can also make a soft growling sound in the back of your throat. >This is a sound of approval and rabbits will do it for you when petted. Grunting and snorting means disapproval.
    >Rabbits run around you in a circle while making vroom vroom sounds, as though pretending to be a race car, when you lay down = they love you.
    >Tongue clicking in a dolphin-like pattern = you are about to be picked up and carried.
    >Two brief snorts or coughs = you are about to be placed on the ground (they learn to make this like the bell).
    >NO! = no. Be mean, unambiguous and consistent.
    They learn quickly, and will destroy carpeting, electrical wiring, wallpaper, paper, and upholstery if you are careless.
    They should get more than an hour of supervised exercise a day if caged, but ideally more.
    Stay away from Kay-Tee Random Garbage We Threw In A Bag and feed weeds, grasses and vegetables. Provide chewing medium, especially unfinished wicker, which can be bought cheaply from craft or decor stores.
    Veterinary assistance is weak: these are r-selected food animals and cannot be expected to survive illness or surgery.
    Very rewarding if you can invest the time and protect your cables.

    Obviously this is a joke to you. Someone around here (thought it was Sailer) has had a couple of pet rabbits. So I was trying to politely ask if it was the same rabbit from ten years ago or a replacement. Of course polite doesn’t usually describe the comments on iSteve. It was a bit over much though, doncha think?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    One rabbit lived over 10 years, dying of old age, another about 6 years. They lived free range in our walled in backyard in year round pleasant California weather.
    , @J.Ross
    What joke? I have had several rabbits and they consistently lived to be over a decade. I intended no joke and no offense.
    , @Pericles
    One mystery Miss Marple didn't solve.
  49. @miss marple
    Obviously this is a joke to you. Someone around here (thought it was Sailer) has had a couple of pet rabbits. So I was trying to politely ask if it was the same rabbit from ten years ago or a replacement. Of course polite doesn't usually describe the comments on iSteve. It was a bit over much though, doncha think?

    One rabbit lived over 10 years, dying of old age, another about 6 years. They lived free range in our walled in backyard in year round pleasant California weather.

    • Replies: @miss marple
    I start imagining a park like backyard with a pleasant water fountain bubbling gently in the background ; then I recall the terrifying images of the things that fly overhead and climb over and slither under the fence around my backyard.

    Are you sure those rabbits were safe living free range?
  50. @miss marple
    Obviously this is a joke to you. Someone around here (thought it was Sailer) has had a couple of pet rabbits. So I was trying to politely ask if it was the same rabbit from ten years ago or a replacement. Of course polite doesn't usually describe the comments on iSteve. It was a bit over much though, doncha think?

    What joke? I have had several rabbits and they consistently lived to be over a decade. I intended no joke and no offense.

    • Agree: Dissident
    • Replies: @miss marple
    Sorry. But wicker? Electrical wires? Also I didn't think they lived that long. I do know they like lettuce and will poop on the floor.

    Thanks. Didn't mean to be a downer.
    , @res
    I think you just answered a feminine indirect question with a masculine literal and factual response which was intended to be helpful. A common situation which can be entertaining, infuriating (for both parties), or both. Related (but not exactly the same): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansplaining
  51. • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Will Bibi calling her "cousin Liz" help or hurt her in the race?
  52. @J.Ross
    What joke? I have had several rabbits and they consistently lived to be over a decade. I intended no joke and no offense.

    Sorry. But wicker? Electrical wires? Also I didn’t think they lived that long. I do know they like lettuce and will poop on the floor.

    Thanks. Didn’t mean to be a downer.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    The wicker is necessary because their teeth grow continuously. Once they're past a certain age, their teeth need to be clipped by a vet. Wicker happens to be cheap and plentiful, but wood blocks are also used. They will chew on something whether you provide it or not.
    No one knows the attraction of electrical wiring (especially live), but it is widely attested. Probably they resemble roots and tubers.
    These, and urine, destroying upholstery, and getting along with other pets, are the major hazards with an indoor rabbit. Steve has already enumerated the two big problems with an outdoor rabbit (having obviated unfriendly climate).
    You get a guinea pig in a little cage, it'll be cheaper and easier, but it won't be as rewarding, and they'll die much sooner. A rabbit is like a dog as far as the trainability and affection, but with the silence and litter box use of a cat.
  53. @Johnny Smoggins
    If Steve dyed his hair to its original color he could pass for 35 (no homo).

    “If Steve dyed his hair to its original color he could pass for 35 (no homo).”

    59 year old Steve Sailer would not look 35 even if he dyed his hair.

    If you want an example of someone in their late 50s who still look 35 it would be Scott Baio and Ralph Macchio for example. They either found the fountain of youth or made a pact with the devil.

    • Replies: @Alden
    Or have a good plastic surgeon.
  54. @Steve Sailer
    One rabbit lived over 10 years, dying of old age, another about 6 years. They lived free range in our walled in backyard in year round pleasant California weather.

    I start imagining a park like backyard with a pleasant water fountain bubbling gently in the background ; then I recall the terrifying images of the things that fly overhead and climb over and slither under the fence around my backyard.

    Are you sure those rabbits were safe living free range?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Are you sure those rabbits were safe living free range?

    No. A huge hawk almost caught the bigger one once. After that, he dug himself a 20 foot long tunnel, which was extremely enterprising for a male rabbit.

    The smaller one eventually figured out how to squeeze through the chainlink fence. He had a high time gallivanting around the neighborhood for six months. But he eventually found some delicious rat poison somewhere and died.

    But they had a pretty good time of it while they were alive.

  55. @miss marple
    I start imagining a park like backyard with a pleasant water fountain bubbling gently in the background ; then I recall the terrifying images of the things that fly overhead and climb over and slither under the fence around my backyard.

    Are you sure those rabbits were safe living free range?

    Are you sure those rabbits were safe living free range?

    No. A huge hawk almost caught the bigger one once. After that, he dug himself a 20 foot long tunnel, which was extremely enterprising for a male rabbit.

    The smaller one eventually figured out how to squeeze through the chainlink fence. He had a high time gallivanting around the neighborhood for six months. But he eventually found some delicious rat poison somewhere and died.

    But they had a pretty good time of it while they were alive.

    • Replies: @miss marple
    I actually did have a pet rabbit briefly when I was in elementary school; but I don't know how old it was when I got it nor can I be certain why it died.

    I'd left it in the keeping of my grandparents who weren't very fond of pets so I've always wondered if, just maybe, they went old school and cooked it for dinner one night.
  56. @Desiderius
    Hillary was actually looking pretty good in the run up to the '92 election and shortly thereafter. Then she spent a year with Ira Magaziner and it was all downhill from there.

    Peak Hillary, with straight long hair and bangs, looks like a slightly wider-faced Rebecca de Mornay. Looking through an image search, I think she improved considerably from her teens to her late 20’s.

    She probably wasn’t the classic sociable alpha female type, more of a high IQ student government wonk who learned political skills from 10000 hours of practice on friendly controlled audiences (and observing Bill).

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    That's my impression too: that Hillary peaked in looks surprisingly late in life. Probably she didn't pay much attention to looking nice until she snagged Bill in law school and then started to focus her considerable energy and determination on learning normal girl stuff to hang on to him.
  57. anon[693] • Disclaimer says:
    @Song For the Deaf
    Steve’s current article on Taki illustrates why I sometimes check the ‘Native American’ box on some forms. I was born here and so was my family going back hundreds of years, after all.

    Question: if white people today were suddenly to decide en masse to start checking the other boxes on these forms, would that benefit us overall or be detrimental?

    I wonder what to tell my kids. They are “legit” 25% Hispanic (maternal grandfather born in Colombia, but 100% European); should I tell them to check that box on college admissions forms? I’m opposed to affirmative action in principle (and frankly they won’t need the leg up), but like, why not use it to get in to the hyper selective schools?

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    That's the kind of Hispanic that hyperselective colleges prefer, if they're being honest.
    , @Sarah Toga
    Just get your documentation in order. If its by the rules, why not? And as Redneck stated, you'd be doing the college a favor

    Even though my wife and I are both mixed-race, we qualify for no set-asides, dagnabit.
    Dad's side of the family was Anglo, Mom's side was Saxon. Literally - traced back to East Anglia and Northern Saxony. My wife's mix include Celts (Irish), and Swedes. So diverse, multi-culti. I know, my stand-up comic career is no closer . . .
    , @JerseyJeffersonian
    If these "hyper selective" schools are also places where they will likely be "hyper indoctrinated" in The Narrative, would you be doing them a favor by supposedly "gaming the system", but in actuality setting them up for being surrounded by True Believers? Because the system at root is actually The Narrative anymore.

    Yes, their passage through later life might be "eased", but at what cost? I don't have kids, but if I did, I might open up a discussion of life values with my budding adults, and see what their feelings are. Although childless myself, I once was a child, and my parents did a good job not just in instilling values, but also in helping me to form my own opinions about why I might want to live those values in a conscious way. Sort of an unpretentious Socratic dialogue thing (unexamined life not worth living...), and this comported with good parenting. There is indoctrination, and then there is education; one claps on the blinders, the other instills a 360 degree view. A good parent does the latter.

    Hope this provides food for thought. Best of luck.
    , @Desiderius
    Unless you’ve got some dirt on the admission committee (and then various HR depts after that) I wouldn’t be so sure about them not needing a leg up.

    Affirmative Action zealots like to choose the most qualified whites to take one for the team since they can tell themselves that those whites will have plenty of other opportunities.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Both my kids could have legitimately checked the Hispanic box. I told them to make up their own mind about it, but warned them that checking it on a college app would follow them forever. Never asked them what they did.
    , @Jefferson
    "I wonder what to tell my kids. They are “legit” 25% Hispanic (maternal grandfather born in Colombia, but 100% European)"

    Unless the Colombian grandfather is a 1st generation offspring of immigrant parents it is extremely unlikely he is 100% European. Did he show you his 23AndMe results?

    Also phenotype appearance is definitely not an indicator of genetic racial purity in Latin America of all places.

    For example is a famous Puerto Rican blogger named Frank Sweet who looks like he came straight out of Spain or any other Mediterranean nation phenotype wise, but genetically he is 13% African Octoroon which he revealed through his 23AndMe results.
  58. Why can’t I vote “LOL” on the post-proper?

    • Replies: @res
    Because the posts would end up looking like Christmas trees?
  59. @International Jew
    I'm partial to the "Jewish Indian theory":
    https://www.bibleodyssey.org/en/places/related-articles/mormon-scripture-and-the-lost-tribes-of-israel

    Will Bibi calling her “cousin Liz” help or hurt her in the race?

  60. @anon
    I wonder what to tell my kids. They are "legit" 25% Hispanic (maternal grandfather born in Colombia, but 100% European); should I tell them to check that box on college admissions forms? I'm opposed to affirmative action in principle (and frankly they won't need the leg up), but like, why not use it to get in to the hyper selective schools?

    That’s the kind of Hispanic that hyperselective colleges prefer, if they’re being honest.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  61. @Jack D
    Elizabeth Warren in high school:

    https://starsinformer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Elizabeth-Warren-in-younger-days.jpg

    Elizabeth Warren as Heap Big Rising Law Professor:

    https://static.texastribune.org/media/images/2016/07/12/Warren-001.JPG

    Elizabeth Warren refusing Marlon Brando's Oscar:

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bQ-jCoaNhtc/VvR76z3EhrI/AAAAAAAADGk/wFdiFkYL0b0FyjLLi_PNY3KeCJDbAzKrA/s400/sacheen-e1352302104689.jpg

    Just kidding. #3 is Sacheen Cruz Littlefeather, aka Marie Louise Cruz

    Not only does she have it dyed inky black but she has it parted in the middle which is supposed to remind you of Indian style, minus the braids. The braids would have been over the top.

    “she has it parted in the middle which is supposed to remind you of Indian style, minus the braids”

    Not really. Nearly every female (and a fair lot of males) with straight hair had it styled like that in the early 70s.

  62. @Steve Sailer
    Are you sure those rabbits were safe living free range?

    No. A huge hawk almost caught the bigger one once. After that, he dug himself a 20 foot long tunnel, which was extremely enterprising for a male rabbit.

    The smaller one eventually figured out how to squeeze through the chainlink fence. He had a high time gallivanting around the neighborhood for six months. But he eventually found some delicious rat poison somewhere and died.

    But they had a pretty good time of it while they were alive.

    I actually did have a pet rabbit briefly when I was in elementary school; but I don’t know how old it was when I got it nor can I be certain why it died.

    I’d left it in the keeping of my grandparents who weren’t very fond of pets so I’ve always wondered if, just maybe, they went old school and cooked it for dinner one night.

  63. @Jefferson
    "A simple angle I haven’t seen covered yet. In pics of Warren in her undergrad years, her hair was *dark* black. Now it’s sandy blonde. At what point in her life was/is she dying it? Having dyed black hair when she was trying to pass as Injun is awful suspicious."

    If all it takes is black hair to claim Native American status does that mean Italian actor Joe Mantegna for example can claim to be Native American? After all he has black hair.

    http://i89.servimg.com/u/f89/11/19/51/25/bzoptg11.jpg

    the claimant would also need to demonstrate skill sets of The First Nations Peoples:
    – Bareback horse riding;
    – Bow and arrow making;
    – Stampeding herds of American Bison over a cliff to kill them en mass;
    (but no wheels and no reading/writing)
    you know, the usual markers of authenticity.

  64. @Reg Cæsar
    Buddah beat you:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1JebAsI-bM

    . . . was this the inspiration for The Village People ?

  65. @academic gossip
    Peak Hillary, with straight long hair and bangs, looks like a slightly wider-faced Rebecca de Mornay. Looking through an image search, I think she improved considerably from her teens to her late 20's.

    She probably wasn't the classic sociable alpha female type, more of a high IQ student government wonk who learned political skills from 10000 hours of practice on friendly controlled audiences (and observing Bill).

    That’s my impression too: that Hillary peaked in looks surprisingly late in life. Probably she didn’t pay much attention to looking nice until she snagged Bill in law school and then started to focus her considerable energy and determination on learning normal girl stuff to hang on to him.

    • Replies: @Liza
    @Steve S.

    Yah, normal "girl stuff" like having her face worked on by professionals. Like her own daughter, Chelsea. Nobody in public life or aspirations to it has their real face.
    , @Alden
    She was probably ordered to try to look decent if she wanted to be a governor’s wife just as she was ordered to sacrifice 9 months of her life to have just one child and tone down the Emma Goldman Rosa Luxembourg persona.
    , @Desiderius
    Maybe that's why she failed the bar?

    Too much time catching up on studying the ways of the world? My grades slid late in college as I did the Kavanaugh at the feet of Judge thing trying to plumb the mysteries of Otter, Boon, and their like.
    , @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Joe Califano (the insider's insider) recounted his impression of Hillary's physical appearance and demeanor during the Watergate hearings: a quote unquote harridan.

    , @academic gossip
    Bill also became more alpha- and masculine-looking as he matured into his late 20's. He was softer and pudgier in his early years but lost some of the wonkiness and assumed an air of command.

    It's like a Dorian Gray effect on the two of them from power bestowed at an unusually early age when they were still being formed.

  66. @Jack D
    Elizabeth Warren in high school:

    https://starsinformer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Elizabeth-Warren-in-younger-days.jpg

    Elizabeth Warren as Heap Big Rising Law Professor:

    https://static.texastribune.org/media/images/2016/07/12/Warren-001.JPG

    Elizabeth Warren refusing Marlon Brando's Oscar:

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bQ-jCoaNhtc/VvR76z3EhrI/AAAAAAAADGk/wFdiFkYL0b0FyjLLi_PNY3KeCJDbAzKrA/s400/sacheen-e1352302104689.jpg

    Just kidding. #3 is Sacheen Cruz Littlefeather, aka Marie Louise Cruz

    Not only does she have it dyed inky black but she has it parted in the middle which is supposed to remind you of Indian style, minus the braids. The braids would have been over the top.

    methinks it may be she saw more of a future in being a Jackie than in being a Marilyn.

    As in when Warner dumped Elle in Legally Blonde.

    Jamming on the riff of “she used to be a Marilyn”, if Lizzie really was a Marilyn back in the day, can you imagine the oppo research?
    hubba hubba !!

  67. @anon
    I wonder what to tell my kids. They are "legit" 25% Hispanic (maternal grandfather born in Colombia, but 100% European); should I tell them to check that box on college admissions forms? I'm opposed to affirmative action in principle (and frankly they won't need the leg up), but like, why not use it to get in to the hyper selective schools?

    Just get your documentation in order. If its by the rules, why not? And as Redneck stated, you’d be doing the college a favor

    Even though my wife and I are both mixed-race, we qualify for no set-asides, dagnabit.
    Dad’s side of the family was Anglo, Mom’s side was Saxon. Literally – traced back to East Anglia and Northern Saxony. My wife’s mix include Celts (Irish), and Swedes. So diverse, multi-culti. I know, my stand-up comic career is no closer . . .

  68. @Jack D
    Elizabeth Warren in high school:

    https://starsinformer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Elizabeth-Warren-in-younger-days.jpg

    Elizabeth Warren as Heap Big Rising Law Professor:

    https://static.texastribune.org/media/images/2016/07/12/Warren-001.JPG

    Elizabeth Warren refusing Marlon Brando's Oscar:

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bQ-jCoaNhtc/VvR76z3EhrI/AAAAAAAADGk/wFdiFkYL0b0FyjLLi_PNY3KeCJDbAzKrA/s400/sacheen-e1352302104689.jpg

    Just kidding. #3 is Sacheen Cruz Littlefeather, aka Marie Louise Cruz

    Not only does she have it dyed inky black but she has it parted in the middle which is supposed to remind you of Indian style, minus the braids. The braids would have been over the top.

    The fashion around 1970 was for very long very straight hair, which is kind of American Indian looking, although the ideal was was to be fairer, like Susan Dey in the Partridge Family.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    Ali MacGraw.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/beauty/July/July%2025/ali-love-story-x.jpg
  69. @Desiderius
    Wow.

    Pelosi, Feinstein, and now Warren.

    Hot chicks gone wrong(ish). Wonder what the dynamic is there.

    . . . looking at the AZ senate race, that Kyrsten Sinema might have been a dish back in the day.

    (disclaimer – my screen name is a total alias, not a female)

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    She went wrong from the get go. Maddow looked like that in high school.
  70. @Redneck farmer
    And some misogynist bastards say broads can't do science!

    LOL

  71. Elizabeth Warren Wins Nobel Prize for Medicine for Proving “Race Is Real” LOL
    If only…

    The early 2000s seemed to be the height of the “race-doesn’t-exist” nonsense but just this April National Geographic decided to revive this canard when fellow Eskimos Susan Goldberg and Elizabeth Kolbert teamed up to use the once venerable periodical to once again promote this pseudoscientific CultMarx dogma. You’d think all those 23andme commercials would induce some shame at this point but I guess not.

  72. @anon
    I wonder what to tell my kids. They are "legit" 25% Hispanic (maternal grandfather born in Colombia, but 100% European); should I tell them to check that box on college admissions forms? I'm opposed to affirmative action in principle (and frankly they won't need the leg up), but like, why not use it to get in to the hyper selective schools?

    If these “hyper selective” schools are also places where they will likely be “hyper indoctrinated” in The Narrative, would you be doing them a favor by supposedly “gaming the system”, but in actuality setting them up for being surrounded by True Believers? Because the system at root is actually The Narrative anymore.

    Yes, their passage through later life might be “eased”, but at what cost? I don’t have kids, but if I did, I might open up a discussion of life values with my budding adults, and see what their feelings are. Although childless myself, I once was a child, and my parents did a good job not just in instilling values, but also in helping me to form my own opinions about why I might want to live those values in a conscious way. Sort of an unpretentious Socratic dialogue thing (unexamined life not worth living…), and this comported with good parenting. There is indoctrination, and then there is education; one claps on the blinders, the other instills a 360 degree view. A good parent does the latter.

    Hope this provides food for thought. Best of luck.

    • Replies: @Dissident

    If these “hyper selective” schools are also places where they will likely be “hyper indoctrinated” in The Narrative, would you be doing them a favor by supposedly “gaming the system”, but in actuality setting them up for being surrounded by True Believers?
     
    I chose the above merely as a representative example of your post, the entirety of which I found commendable.
  73. Anonymous[127] • Disclaimer says:
    @eah
    She deserves the NP in economics too -- the boost to the 'privilege' and 'grievance' industries should increase GDP significantly.

    https://twitter.com/westland_will/status/1052034371333500928

    I was also thinking about this. The average white person has 510x as much Neanderthal DNA as Elizabeth Warren claims to have Amerindian DNA. And if that’s not bad enough this is her best case scenario. She went to a private individual to have this estimation made, none of the results are actually publicly available for scrutiny. So who knows how he actually arrived at the results.

  74. @anon
    Marginally on-topic:
    Clearchannel has been pimping their "Spit" (sic, ugh) podcast produced with 23andme, wherein some comedian talks with musicians about genomic analysis. Yes, Wyclef Jean, I'm verrry interested in your take on the most recent GWAS studies...

    Anyways, the soundbites from the promo have our fearless artists opining on the lame trope that "all this DNA testing shows how the SAME we really are!" Normally I wouldn't pay attention because clearchannel is circling the drain and grasping at relevance, but I do find it odd that a company whose product is literally quantifying to the tenth of a percent how different you are from everyone would be funding this nonsense.

    They are covering their asses necause their very existence is an abomination in the eyes of many.

  75. @Steve Sailer
    Senators Feinstein too.

    Steve, are you voting for DiFi this year? She’s 85 and wobbly. DeLeon is 51 and likely to plague us for the rest of our lives.

    I may just vote for a Democrat for the first time in my life. My husband voted for a Democrat in NYC just to oppose Dinkins in the primary.

  76. @anon
    I wonder what to tell my kids. They are "legit" 25% Hispanic (maternal grandfather born in Colombia, but 100% European); should I tell them to check that box on college admissions forms? I'm opposed to affirmative action in principle (and frankly they won't need the leg up), but like, why not use it to get in to the hyper selective schools?

    Unless you’ve got some dirt on the admission committee (and then various HR depts after that) I wouldn’t be so sure about them not needing a leg up.

    Affirmative Action zealots like to choose the most qualified whites to take one for the team since they can tell themselves that those whites will have plenty of other opportunities.

  77. @miss marple
    Obviously this is a joke to you. Someone around here (thought it was Sailer) has had a couple of pet rabbits. So I was trying to politely ask if it was the same rabbit from ten years ago or a replacement. Of course polite doesn't usually describe the comments on iSteve. It was a bit over much though, doncha think?

    One mystery Miss Marple didn’t solve.

  78. @Steve Sailer
    The fashion around 1970 was for very long very straight hair, which is kind of American Indian looking, although the ideal was was to be fairer, like Susan Dey in the Partridge Family.

    Ali MacGraw.

    • Replies: @jim jones
    I always found Ali MacGraw repulsive because of her eyebrows
  79. @Sarah Toga
    . . . looking at the AZ senate race, that Kyrsten Sinema might have been a dish back in the day.

    (disclaimer - my screen name is a total alias, not a female)

    She went wrong from the get go. Maddow looked like that in high school.

  80. @anon
    I wonder what to tell my kids. They are "legit" 25% Hispanic (maternal grandfather born in Colombia, but 100% European); should I tell them to check that box on college admissions forms? I'm opposed to affirmative action in principle (and frankly they won't need the leg up), but like, why not use it to get in to the hyper selective schools?

    Both my kids could have legitimately checked the Hispanic box. I told them to make up their own mind about it, but warned them that checking it on a college app would follow them forever. Never asked them what they did.

  81. @J.Ross
    I raised several and they routinely got past ten years; I don't think I had one older than 12, but have heard of them reaching 15. In the wild, they're lucky to live to two or three.
    They will require almost as much attention as a human baby in the first few months. Touch them often and pick them up so they get used to being carried. If there are noises or people in your life, introduce them early.
    I taught signals so human actions weren't completely out of the blue:
    >[Bell ringing] = food, and later summoning. They eventually would find ways to ring the bell themselves.
    >[Dragging inside of lip against edge of front teeth] = tooth purring, the rabbit equivalent of purring. Can also make a soft growling sound in the back of your throat. >This is a sound of approval and rabbits will do it for you when petted. Grunting and snorting means disapproval.
    >Rabbits run around you in a circle while making vroom vroom sounds, as though pretending to be a race car, when you lay down = they love you.
    >Tongue clicking in a dolphin-like pattern = you are about to be picked up and carried.
    >Two brief snorts or coughs = you are about to be placed on the ground (they learn to make this like the bell).
    >NO! = no. Be mean, unambiguous and consistent.
    They learn quickly, and will destroy carpeting, electrical wiring, wallpaper, paper, and upholstery if you are careless.
    They should get more than an hour of supervised exercise a day if caged, but ideally more.
    Stay away from Kay-Tee Random Garbage We Threw In A Bag and feed weeds, grasses and vegetables. Provide chewing medium, especially unfinished wicker, which can be bought cheaply from craft or decor stores.
    Veterinary assistance is weak: these are r-selected food animals and cannot be expected to survive illness or surgery.
    Very rewarding if you can invest the time and protect your cables.

    We had a couple rabbits for a while They weren’t caged. They used a cat litter box on the breeze way. Unfortunately the neighbors dogs f got them. They were sweet and cuddly

    • Replies: @bomag
    I've got plenty of wild rabbits around here. Interesting how they really trigger dogs. The cottontails are quite adept at surviving. Tame ones, no chance.
  82. @Jefferson
    Dianne Feinstein was attractive back in the 1970s when she was mayor of San Francisco.

    She was beautiful. Face like Courtney Cox great legs tall slim Snow White coloring. She didn’t photograph well.

    • Replies: @Desiderius

    She didn’t photograph well.
     
    Yeah, no kidding. Put some sunglesses on her she could be Jim Jones' sister.

    She still has a lot of charisma though, so I could see her being beautiful in person.
  83. @Jefferson
    "If Steve dyed his hair to its original color he could pass for 35 (no homo)."

    59 year old Steve Sailer would not look 35 even if he dyed his hair.

    If you want an example of someone in their late 50s who still look 35 it would be Scott Baio and Ralph Macchio for example. They either found the fountain of youth or made a pact with the devil.

    Or have a good plastic surgeon.

  84. @J.Ross
    What joke? I have had several rabbits and they consistently lived to be over a decade. I intended no joke and no offense.

    I think you just answered a feminine indirect question with a masculine literal and factual response which was intended to be helpful. A common situation which can be entertaining, infuriating (for both parties), or both. Related (but not exactly the same): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansplaining

  85. @Steve Sailer
    That's my impression too: that Hillary peaked in looks surprisingly late in life. Probably she didn't pay much attention to looking nice until she snagged Bill in law school and then started to focus her considerable energy and determination on learning normal girl stuff to hang on to him.

    @Steve S.

    Yah, normal “girl stuff” like having her face worked on by professionals. Like her own daughter, Chelsea. Nobody in public life or aspirations to it has their real face.

  86. @Mr. Rational
    Why can't I vote "LOL" on the post-proper?

    Because the posts would end up looking like Christmas trees?

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  87. @Steve Sailer
    That's my impression too: that Hillary peaked in looks surprisingly late in life. Probably she didn't pay much attention to looking nice until she snagged Bill in law school and then started to focus her considerable energy and determination on learning normal girl stuff to hang on to him.

    She was probably ordered to try to look decent if she wanted to be a governor’s wife just as she was ordered to sacrifice 9 months of her life to have just one child and tone down the Emma Goldman Rosa Luxembourg persona.

  88. @Steve Sailer
    That's my impression too: that Hillary peaked in looks surprisingly late in life. Probably she didn't pay much attention to looking nice until she snagged Bill in law school and then started to focus her considerable energy and determination on learning normal girl stuff to hang on to him.

    Maybe that’s why she failed the bar?

    Too much time catching up on studying the ways of the world? My grades slid late in college as I did the Kavanaugh at the feet of Judge thing trying to plumb the mysteries of Otter, Boon, and their like.

    • LOL: bomag
  89. @Alden
    She was beautiful. Face like Courtney Cox great legs tall slim Snow White coloring. She didn’t photograph well.

    She didn’t photograph well.

    Yeah, no kidding. Put some sunglesses on her she could be Jim Jones’ sister.

    She still has a lot of charisma though, so I could see her being beautiful in person.

  90. @adreadline
    ''In a surprise announcement this afternoon, Senator Elizabeth Warren was awarded the Nobel Prize for medicine / physiology''

    Steve Sailer

    Blogger and journalist

    PolitiFact Rating: FALSE

    Thanks for showing us that some people don’t do humor.

  91. … though of Celtic ancestry – today I may self-identify as Injun …

    ( and ask for my rightful share of the proceeds from the Sandia Casino …) .

  92. @miss marple
    Sorry. But wicker? Electrical wires? Also I didn't think they lived that long. I do know they like lettuce and will poop on the floor.

    Thanks. Didn't mean to be a downer.

    The wicker is necessary because their teeth grow continuously. Once they’re past a certain age, their teeth need to be clipped by a vet. Wicker happens to be cheap and plentiful, but wood blocks are also used. They will chew on something whether you provide it or not.
    No one knows the attraction of electrical wiring (especially live), but it is widely attested. Probably they resemble roots and tubers.
    These, and urine, destroying upholstery, and getting along with other pets, are the major hazards with an indoor rabbit. Steve has already enumerated the two big problems with an outdoor rabbit (having obviated unfriendly climate).
    You get a guinea pig in a little cage, it’ll be cheaper and easier, but it won’t be as rewarding, and they’ll die much sooner. A rabbit is like a dog as far as the trainability and affection, but with the silence and litter box use of a cat.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    Re the urine: my old neighbour had a rabbit in his back garden which regularly shot a jet of piss to hit a couple of his obnoxious grandkids at a range of about five yards.
  93. @Alden
    We had a couple rabbits for a while They weren’t caged. They used a cat litter box on the breeze way. Unfortunately the neighbors dogs f got them. They were sweet and cuddly

    I’ve got plenty of wild rabbits around here. Interesting how they really trigger dogs. The cottontails are quite adept at surviving. Tame ones, no chance.

  94. @Steve Sailer
    That's my impression too: that Hillary peaked in looks surprisingly late in life. Probably she didn't pay much attention to looking nice until she snagged Bill in law school and then started to focus her considerable energy and determination on learning normal girl stuff to hang on to him.

    Steve,

    Joe Califano (the insider’s insider) recounted his impression of Hillary’s physical appearance and demeanor during the Watergate hearings: a quote unquote harridan.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    HRC got thrown off the Watergate committee (by the Ds!) for unethical behavior. I have never seen details.
  95. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Joe Califano (the insider's insider) recounted his impression of Hillary's physical appearance and demeanor during the Watergate hearings: a quote unquote harridan.

    HRC got thrown off the Watergate committee (by the Ds!) for unethical behavior. I have never seen details.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    She was not "fired," but it's not a position you get conventionally fired from. The guy who was supposed to give her a recommendation letter at the end of her term of service as a newbie lawyer helping with research declined to do so, and a Republican partisan source suppies that infamous quote (so it's probably true, but tainted).
    So getting fired for lack of ethics is essentially what happened, but technically not what happened.
    I get the feeling that when Clinton dies there will be a ton of stuff coming out, and until that happens we have these slightly distorted stories. If we had to judge her solely on distorted stories it would be a problem, but we have now seen enough of her over time to have reason to not throw the stories out.
  96. @Anon7
    The Cherokee Nation weighs in:

    "A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person’s ancestors were indigenous to North or South America," Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin Jr. said. "Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage."

    http://www.cherokee.org/News/Stories/20181015_Cherokee-Nation-responds-to-Senator-Warrens-DNA-test

     

    As Steve has shown us, tribal membership has higher standards because they don’t want to spread that casino money too thin. However, for diversity point and affirmative action benefits, you wouldn’t have to qualify for tribal membership to reap the rewards of being a minority.

    That being said, Senator Warren’s percentage of NA ancestry is probably less than that of your average non-Hispanic white American. So she isn’t an Indian.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    Still, the statement attributed to the Cherokee Nation quoted by Anon7 is highly critical and condemnatory of Warren. One would think that, if legitimate, it could, at the very least, cause much embarrassment for her.

    "Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage.”
     
  97. @Bard of Bumperstickers
    I am Rachel Dolezal and I disapprove of this message.

    If you are Rachel Dolezal, I am Spartacus. Or am I Cory Booker? Identity is fluid, race is a construct, and sex … what’s that? Is this the way to the bookstore?

  98. @Crawfurdmuir

    I really wish she would modify her favorite catchphrase: “the middle class is being hammered”, using “hatchet” as a verb.
     
    Lizzie Warren took an axe,
    To scalp the public with a tax,
    She'll do it with her little hatchet,
    No real Indian could ever match it.
    Our capital she'll skin and pull,
    Factitious Princess Spreading Bull.

    As they say in Indian country - Ugh!

    If only they had lampooned her on “F Troop.”

  99. @J.Ross
    The wicker is necessary because their teeth grow continuously. Once they're past a certain age, their teeth need to be clipped by a vet. Wicker happens to be cheap and plentiful, but wood blocks are also used. They will chew on something whether you provide it or not.
    No one knows the attraction of electrical wiring (especially live), but it is widely attested. Probably they resemble roots and tubers.
    These, and urine, destroying upholstery, and getting along with other pets, are the major hazards with an indoor rabbit. Steve has already enumerated the two big problems with an outdoor rabbit (having obviated unfriendly climate).
    You get a guinea pig in a little cage, it'll be cheaper and easier, but it won't be as rewarding, and they'll die much sooner. A rabbit is like a dog as far as the trainability and affection, but with the silence and litter box use of a cat.

    Re the urine: my old neighbour had a rabbit in his back garden which regularly shot a jet of piss to hit a couple of his obnoxious grandkids at a range of about five yards.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    That is awesome. Dogs wish they could do that.
  100. @Jim Don Bob
    HRC got thrown off the Watergate committee (by the Ds!) for unethical behavior. I have never seen details.

    She was not “fired,” but it’s not a position you get conventionally fired from. The guy who was supposed to give her a recommendation letter at the end of her term of service as a newbie lawyer helping with research declined to do so, and a Republican partisan source suppies that infamous quote (so it’s probably true, but tainted).
    So getting fired for lack of ethics is essentially what happened, but technically not what happened.
    I get the feeling that when Clinton dies there will be a ton of stuff coming out, and until that happens we have these slightly distorted stories. If we had to judge her solely on distorted stories it would be a problem, but we have now seen enough of her over time to have reason to not throw the stories out.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  101. @Cortes
    Re the urine: my old neighbour had a rabbit in his back garden which regularly shot a jet of piss to hit a couple of his obnoxious grandkids at a range of about five yards.

    That is awesome. Dogs wish they could do that.

  102. @MEH 0910
    Ali MacGraw.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/beauty/July/July%2025/ali-love-story-x.jpg

    I always found Ali MacGraw repulsive because of her eyebrows

  103. The music accompanying the video is so boring! What point are your trying to make?

  104. You have 256 ancestors 8 generations back, right? I made a graphic

    (headdress may not be authentic Cherokee)

    • Replies: @Harold
    In this artwork the unornamented uniformity of the white faces is a commentary on the erasure of the diverse patchwork of white cultures and the lived experiences of white bodies in America, or some sh*t.

    Anyone feel free to alter and use the pic however they wish.

    , @Harold
    10 generations
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fbc92c898ebc42ea3c9ce8d05a2bd4a88ce64e755f691814beedecda6fddb23c.png
  105. @Reg Cæsar
    Warren is just another word for... rabbit hole.

    http://www.newsbiscuit.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/warren-1160x653.jpg

    https://www.lexisnexis.com/LegalNewsRoom/resized-image/__size/1040x871/__key/telligent-evolution-components-attachments/13-11-00-00-00-00-09-78/Alice-in-Wonderland-rabbit-hole.jpg

    Warren is just another word for… rabbit hole.

    Perhaps President Trump could be thought of as Elmer Fudd?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    You misspelled Bugs Bunny.
  106. @J.Ross
    Unworthy of a thread but Stormy Daniels' suit against a certain restorer of greatness was thrown out and she now has to pay his legal fees.
    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/15/stormy-daniels-trump-libel-suit-903152

    Unworthy of a thread but Stormy Daniels’ suit against a certain restorer of greatness was thrown out and she now has to pay his legal fees.

    Without wishing to comment at this point on the particular matter you raised, I will avail myself of this opportunity to share a thought I recently had concerning the recently-concluded Kavanaugh spectacle. The thought is simply this: I would relish an opportunity to see Kavanaugh bring a libel/defamation suit against Ford and any number of her accomplices.

  107. @Harold
    You have 256 ancestors 8 generations back, right? I made a graphic
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ae2046b580494bc06ff0ddf557fa806c77fad597b5feb9e172e2ee55211e3e11.png
    (headdress may not be authentic Cherokee)

    In this artwork the unornamented uniformity of the white faces is a commentary on the erasure of the diverse patchwork of white cultures and the lived experiences of white bodies in America, or some sh*t.

    Anyone feel free to alter and use the pic however they wish.

  108. @The Anti-Gnostic
    THE MIDDLE CLASS IS BEING SCALPED!

    songbird:

    I really wish she would modify her favorite catchphrase: “the middle class is being hammered”, using “hatchet” as a verb.

    The Anti-Gnostic:

    THE MIDDLE CLASS IS BEING SCALPED!

    That’s great!

  109. @Harold
    You have 256 ancestors 8 generations back, right? I made a graphic
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ae2046b580494bc06ff0ddf557fa806c77fad597b5feb9e172e2ee55211e3e11.png
    (headdress may not be authentic Cherokee)

    10 generations

  110. @JerseyJeffersonian
    If these "hyper selective" schools are also places where they will likely be "hyper indoctrinated" in The Narrative, would you be doing them a favor by supposedly "gaming the system", but in actuality setting them up for being surrounded by True Believers? Because the system at root is actually The Narrative anymore.

    Yes, their passage through later life might be "eased", but at what cost? I don't have kids, but if I did, I might open up a discussion of life values with my budding adults, and see what their feelings are. Although childless myself, I once was a child, and my parents did a good job not just in instilling values, but also in helping me to form my own opinions about why I might want to live those values in a conscious way. Sort of an unpretentious Socratic dialogue thing (unexamined life not worth living...), and this comported with good parenting. There is indoctrination, and then there is education; one claps on the blinders, the other instills a 360 degree view. A good parent does the latter.

    Hope this provides food for thought. Best of luck.

    If these “hyper selective” schools are also places where they will likely be “hyper indoctrinated” in The Narrative, would you be doing them a favor by supposedly “gaming the system”, but in actuality setting them up for being surrounded by True Believers?

    I chose the above merely as a representative example of your post, the entirety of which I found commendable.

  111. @Don't Look at Me
    As Steve has shown us, tribal membership has higher standards because they don't want to spread that casino money too thin. However, for diversity point and affirmative action benefits, you wouldn't have to qualify for tribal membership to reap the rewards of being a minority.

    That being said, Senator Warren's percentage of NA ancestry is probably less than that of your average non-Hispanic white American. So she isn't an Indian.

    Still, the statement attributed to the Cherokee Nation quoted by Anon7 is highly critical and condemnatory of Warren. One would think that, if legitimate, it could, at the very least, cause much embarrassment for her.

    “Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage.”

  112. @Steve Sailer
    That's my impression too: that Hillary peaked in looks surprisingly late in life. Probably she didn't pay much attention to looking nice until she snagged Bill in law school and then started to focus her considerable energy and determination on learning normal girl stuff to hang on to him.

    Bill also became more alpha- and masculine-looking as he matured into his late 20’s. He was softer and pudgier in his early years but lost some of the wonkiness and assumed an air of command.

    It’s like a Dorian Gray effect on the two of them from power bestowed at an unusually early age when they were still being formed.

  113. @miss marple
    I'm considering adding either a guinea pig or a lop-eared bunny to the family next year. How long can I expect a rabbit to live?

    Until you chop his head off, and marinade him.

    Tastes like chicken.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    marinade = marinate
  114. @Nicholas Stix
    Until you chop his head off, and marinade him.

    Tastes like chicken.

    marinade = marinate

  115. @J.Ross
    I raised several and they routinely got past ten years; I don't think I had one older than 12, but have heard of them reaching 15. In the wild, they're lucky to live to two or three.
    They will require almost as much attention as a human baby in the first few months. Touch them often and pick them up so they get used to being carried. If there are noises or people in your life, introduce them early.
    I taught signals so human actions weren't completely out of the blue:
    >[Bell ringing] = food, and later summoning. They eventually would find ways to ring the bell themselves.
    >[Dragging inside of lip against edge of front teeth] = tooth purring, the rabbit equivalent of purring. Can also make a soft growling sound in the back of your throat. >This is a sound of approval and rabbits will do it for you when petted. Grunting and snorting means disapproval.
    >Rabbits run around you in a circle while making vroom vroom sounds, as though pretending to be a race car, when you lay down = they love you.
    >Tongue clicking in a dolphin-like pattern = you are about to be picked up and carried.
    >Two brief snorts or coughs = you are about to be placed on the ground (they learn to make this like the bell).
    >NO! = no. Be mean, unambiguous and consistent.
    They learn quickly, and will destroy carpeting, electrical wiring, wallpaper, paper, and upholstery if you are careless.
    They should get more than an hour of supervised exercise a day if caged, but ideally more.
    Stay away from Kay-Tee Random Garbage We Threw In A Bag and feed weeds, grasses and vegetables. Provide chewing medium, especially unfinished wicker, which can be bought cheaply from craft or decor stores.
    Veterinary assistance is weak: these are r-selected food animals and cannot be expected to survive illness or surgery.
    Very rewarding if you can invest the time and protect your cables.

    these are r-selected food animals and cannot be expected to survive illness or surgery.

    Something I saw in a video was a UK guy (can’t place his accent better than that) who hunts rabbits and guts them in 2 seconds by literally squeezing the intestines out with one hand.

    I tried it.  It works! (ewww) Squirrels are made of much tougher stuff.

  116. @Dissident

    Warren is just another word for… rabbit hole.
     
    Perhaps President Trump could be thought of as Elmer Fudd?

    You misspelled Bugs Bunny.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    Spot on.  Trump plays those who are after him just like Bugs does.
  117. @anon
    I wonder what to tell my kids. They are "legit" 25% Hispanic (maternal grandfather born in Colombia, but 100% European); should I tell them to check that box on college admissions forms? I'm opposed to affirmative action in principle (and frankly they won't need the leg up), but like, why not use it to get in to the hyper selective schools?

    “I wonder what to tell my kids. They are “legit” 25% Hispanic (maternal grandfather born in Colombia, but 100% European)”

    Unless the Colombian grandfather is a 1st generation offspring of immigrant parents it is extremely unlikely he is 100% European. Did he show you his 23AndMe results?

    Also phenotype appearance is definitely not an indicator of genetic racial purity in Latin America of all places.

    For example is a famous Puerto Rican blogger named Frank Sweet who looks like he came straight out of Spain or any other Mediterranean nation phenotype wise, but genetically he is 13% African Octoroon which he revealed through his 23AndMe results.

  118. @Desiderius
    You misspelled Bugs Bunny.

    Spot on.  Trump plays those who are after him just like Bugs does.

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