The Unz Review: An Alternative Media Selection
A Collection of Interesting, Important, and Controversial Perspectives Largely Excluded from the American Mainstream Media
 TeasersiSteve Blog
Elizabeth Warren: "5 Years Ago Michael Brown Was Murdered by a White Police Officer in Ferguson, Missouri."
🔊 Listen RSS
Email This Page to Someone

 Remember My Information



=>

Bookmark Toggle AllToCAdd to LibraryRemove from Library • BShow CommentNext New CommentNext New ReplyRead More
ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
AgreeDisagreeLOLTroll
These buttons register your public Agreement, Disagreement, Troll, or LOL with the selected comment. They are ONLY available to recent, frequent commenters who have saved their Name+Email using the 'Remember My Information' checkbox, and may also ONLY be used once per hour.
Ignore Commenter Follow Commenter
Search Text Case Sensitive  Exact Words  Include Comments
List of Bookmarks

Dear Liz:

You are a law professor, right? Well, I’ve got a legal question for you:

Isn’t the tweet above both a lie and a libel?

Bernie at least somehow managed to avoid using the word “murder:”

But … “end police violence against people of color”???

 
Hide 253 CommentsLeave a Comment
Commenters to Ignore...to FollowEndorsed Only
Trim Comments?
  1. Slander – self defense is not murder.

    • Replies: @NickG

    Slander – self defense is not murder
     
    .

    Slander is verbal defamation, libel is written.
  2. We must confront police violence. Black violence is mostly pretty chill though.

  3. She gives the impression of a bot talking.

    That’s not deliberate, is it?

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    I seriously doubt she posts her own tweets or is even aware that she has a twitter account.

    I imagine her account is run by some 25 year old chick with a grievance studies degree, wearing a burka and lots of makeup.
    , @Pericles

    She gives the impression of a bot talking.

     

    Elizabot?

    (The AI connoisseur would of course prefer just 'Eliza'.)
  4. She’s nuts, right? She read Obama’s FBI report on the whole thing? This is the most retarded statement she ever made in her life.

    • Replies: @Marty
    I wonder if superlawyer Joe Cotchett, who represented Valerie Plame in her libel action, will advocate for Darren Wilson.
    , @Louis Renault
    If only Attorney General Eric Holder had done his job right. It's right there in his Wikipedia page. Oh, sorry, not there? Guess that Black Attorney General didn't do anything wrong afterall; which is why this non-event doesn't appear under his name.
    , @Realist

    This is the most retarded statement she ever made in her life.
     
    I doubt that, this shitlib has been a dumbass all her life.
    , @Bardon Kaldian

    She’s nuts, right?
     
    Yes.
  5. There is no other way to say this.

    Warren is lying and pandering to black voters.

    • Replies: @Realist

    Warren is lying and pandering to black voters.
     
    Just like all democrat politicians.
    , @bomag

    Warren is lying and pandering to black voters
     
    Yes. Pretty pathetic that she/they can't find an actual injustice of recent vintage to flog.
  6. Wow. Hope he sues.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    The better move might be to relocate to a non extradition treaty country. Darren Wilson should be able to bankrupt Elizabeth Warren over that tweet, but we all know he would never win.
  7. • LOL: JimDandy
    • Replies: @anonymous
    Look, Liz, you have made the Sicilian cry.
    , @Anonymous
    Say what you will, she has PROVED that she has Amerindian ancestry.
    , @anon
    Now that's good meme-in'
    , @Hark hark the snark
    Elizabeth Ann Heming Warren AKA Little White Dove
    , @Peter Johnson
    Is there a url link for this Elizabeth Warren registration card with her race shown as American Indian and her signature at the bottom? It would be most useful to have a url link when commenting on the internet - so many people firmly deny that this exists.
    , @Fran Macadam
    'Ol Iron Eyes wasn't an Indian anymore than Liz, but he immersed himself in the role publicly and privately, more than she ever did (never). He married a full blooded Indian lady and adopted Indian boys who venerated their Dad, and he opened a museum dedicated to American Indians.
  8. Which candidate is more likely to replicate (or surpass) the late-Obama era collapse?

    Also, which one might (if elected) make 180 degree turnaround and potentially beef up incarceration? “Hey, thanks for the votes but f-%#^ you!”

  9. I don’t remember a cop killing him. I thought the Grand jury didn’t see it that way…
    Meanwhile in Chicago .. mind you this is just one city.. it does get better and the numbers look great.

    Week in Progress (8/4 – 8/10)
    Shot & Killed: 6
    Shot & Wounded: 46
    Total Shot: 52
    Total Homicides: 6

  10. EVERYTHING on the black vote!

  11. So she’s aping Hillary Clinton’s strategy? Yeah, everybody loves a wealthy White lady with a Black Panther Party platform on race relations. It’s win-win.

  12. Hands up, don’t shoot.

    Or maybe it was, “I’m gonna punch you in the face and try to grab your gun, don’t shoot.”

  13. Michael Brown was murdered by a white police officer

    Libel, noun
    1. [LAW] a published false statement that is damaging to a person’s reputation; a written defamation. | Synonyms: defamation, defamation of character, character assassination, calumny, misrepresentation; aspersions, denigration, vilification, slander, …

    ____________________

    Why aren’t statements like Warren’s here punishable by libel law? I don’t get it.

    Why even have libel laws if they can’t be applied to this kind of case? She has defames and libeled of Darren Wilson (b.1986; the sad post-script: After being fired from the police force by a CNN-led pitchfork mob, he went into a period of unemployment and eventually surfaced as a minimum-wage-or-so shoe salesman at a chain store).

    Wilson did nothing wrong and was not convicted of ‘murdering’ Brown. Her libel of Wilson hurts all Whites, but especially White Christian males, a mass blood-libel against over one hundred million people on this continent. And it seems empirically proven, now, to have caused thousands of excess deaths these past five years.

    What is the solution to this kind of cheap, anti-White demagoguery:

    An American ex-CEO and current right-wing think tank leader, Curt Doolittle, proposes making all political statements subject to libel law, a one-fell-swoop way to take back a dramatic amount of ground:

    [MORE]

    Yes it is possible to use this methodology to plug holes in our common law, our legislative processes, and our judicial processes. Because the method, by producing a formal logic of the ‘soft (human)’ sciences enables and forces judgements made not by interpretation but by application of that logic.

    The prosecution of lies in the commons is possible because today we successfully suppress fraud in commercial speech, and in the past we used to prosecute scolding, libel, slander, fraud, fraud by omission, fraud by conspiracy, and treason in defense of the commons (King’s Peace).

    We allowed the state and the left to use the hole in ‘free speech’, rather than free truthful speech, to destroy our protections of the informational commons. And we did not repair the holes in the constitution

    So “Lock Her Up” — Warren, that is — for libel, for incitement to hatred against a specific race (White-European-Christians in the USA) and thus treason. Maybe no need to lock her up, but do convict her of libel.

    • Replies: @Lot
    So you think the right will be the primary beneficiary of scaling back the First Amendment?

    I’d say more likely, the primary loser, especially the HBD aware right.

    Doolittle says political speech should be regulated like commercial speech. That is definitely scaling back the 1st Amendment, as we’ve always had the rule that like obscenity it gets the least protection, with political speech getting the most.

    Here’s some background:

    https://mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/900/commercial-speech
    , @ScarletNumber

    Maybe no need to lock her up, but do convict her of libel
     
    Sigh. Libel isn't a crime, it's a civil wrong.

    Furthermore, you would have to prove that saying Michael Brown was murdered without saying who murdered him has damaged the cop. I would say the cop's life has been ruined already. Also, as other comments have mentioned, there is no way that he wants to testify in open court what happened that day since there is no statute of limitations on murder.
    , @bomag
    [more enforcement of libel laws...]

    We give a lot of immunity to public officials. In a way, this clumsy bad idea of Black Lives Matter is a push back to police immunity, and it hasn't gone well.
    , @Jonathan Mason

    Why aren’t statements like Warren’s here punishable by libel law? I don’t get it.
     
    It is simple.

    An advice columnist, I forget which, once wrote that it is OK to go to your mailbox in your sleepwear, because a person going to their mail box is officially invisible.

    Similarly politicians running for office have a kind of parliamentary immunity and it is understood that the lies that they tell while campaigning are not to be taken seriously and therefore officially off the record.
  14. Compare to the el paso shooter killed 20 people and was arrested without incident. talk about white privilege

    People of Color agree with Warren and they are the future

    • Replies: @Anon

    Compare to the el paso shooter killed 20 people and was arrested without incident. talk about white privilege
     
    The El Paso shooter wasn't advancing toward police after trying to murder one of them with one of their own weapons.

    That's a free lesson in how truth is in the detail and how your and the MSM's spin is weak, transparent, and therefore widely and correctly discounted as a pack of lies in reference to attempted murderer Michael Brown.


    People of Color agree with Warren and they are the future
     
    People of Color, as a group, are universal morons as can be statistically observed. They are only the future if there is no Good in the Universe. Our oldest myths state otherwise.
    , @Precious
    The El Paso shooter put his hands up.
    , @Lurker
    People of Color is no longer the preferred term. You should switch to People of Specialness - PoS for brevity.
    , @Craig
    Tiny Duck, the “Alan Colmes” of the iSteve commentators. I’m leaning towards the opinion this is a parody account.
    , @AceDeuce
    Arrested w/out incident? So were (among many others) kneegarow murderers Colin Ferguson, the Carr Brothers (Wichita Massacre) the Richmond Spree killers (groids who brutally killed, among others, a two year old and a four year old white girl) and the Knoxville Horror killers. In fact, if cops killed every criminal groid willy-nilly, then why come, as they would say, so many are alive and filling up the jails?
  15. I’m shocked that in this, “we crave authenticity” era of ours she’s going to get away with impersonating a minority for personal gain!

    We’re an odd society……

  16. Warren proves (again) she is not qualified to be a professor at a TTT (Third Tier Toilet) law school, let alone Harvard.

    Given that Wilson’s account is corroborated by physical evidence and that his perception of a threat posed by Brown is corroborated by other eyewitnesses, to include aspects of the testimony of Witness 101, there is no credible evidence that Wilson willfully shot Brown as he was attempting to surrender or was otherwise not posing a threat.

    https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/doj_report_on_shooting_of_michael_brown_1.pdf

    I hope ex-Officer Darren Wilson sues her for defamation.

    • Agree: 95Theses
    • Replies: @Kronos
    I doubt it, he doesn’t have the money. The Zimmerman trial bankrupt (or nearly) Zimmerman himself. In any case, it’s a political candidate taking pot shots at a event that occurred 5 years ago. Warren understands the realities of the case, but is trying to drum up political support from a very “excitable” demographic.
    , @Clifford Brown
    I doubt Officer Wilson wants to litigate whether he committed murder or not. He avoided a trial on this matter and it would be foolhardy to interject Mike Brown's murder into the court system. I can't imagine any lawyer would advise Officer Wilson to testify on the events of that day as he is still under statute of limitations for homicide. The Ferguson Police Department is likely indemnifying Officer Wilson for civil claims against him and since there has already been a civil settlement with the Brown family, I doubt the Department wants Officer Wilson reigniting any issues with respect to the Brown killing.
  17. Fauxcahontas….blah blah blah and yet she is a contender. Like Hillary, Warren is innumerate and doesn’t understand how the electoral college works. Nevertheless, just a few more years of invasion and we’re done. The excesses of the left were met with punishing losses at the polls starting in the late 1960s. Hard leftists didn’t change their stripes, but they did begin the long march through he institutions and seasoned Democrats responded politically by changing their rhetoric and putting forth more ostensibly “moderate” candidates to appeal to the majority. Well, the majority ain’t what (or, more importantly, who) they used to be. Two and half years into broken promises from Trump vis-a-vis immigration restriction and there does seem to be an inevitability to true leftist domination of the U.S. Trump may get another term, and perhaps he’ll pull an Obama and implement policies that he wanted but didn’t dare champion during his first term. I wouldn’t wager too much on that, though. Even the implementation of some mild immigration restrictionist policies during a theoretical second term wouldn’t be enough because there will be no subsequent mainstream Republican who dares to embrace Trump’s campaign rhetoric or promised policies and there are few glittering rich outsiders who will run and self-fund a Trump-like campaign.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Prof. Woland
    Part of me wishes she would become the President. Elizabeth Warren is the death rattle of second wave feminism. An ugly ideology that should have been buried in a shallow grave when Hillary lost the Presidency for the second time but is still giving us one last noxious queeve expelled from the methane from its rotting corpse.

    The whole United States would so quickly become so sick of her Cun*y pedantic noise that by the end of her first term we would be permanently done with white liberals in general, and gays, feminists, socialists, and the rest of the baby boomer counter culture rot in specific. Like Obama, where we had to exorcise our black daemons, it would be like one big National enema where we could finally eliminate the women's movement as if it were a bowl movement.
  18. Where is Senator Preston Brooks when you really need him?

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    Senator Preston Brooks. Cane and able.
  19. Wow, they dont give up, I wish righties were such fighters.

    • Replies: @JudgeSmails

    Wow, they dont give up, I wish righties were such fighters.
     
    You're right, they don't give up. They never, ever stop advancing towards a statist society. They will lie, cheat, steal, and kill to achieve their goals. A mix of insanity, indoctrination, and mendaciousness.

    Righties just don't have the right stuff.
  20. They really don’t have to live with the consequences of their rhetoric, do they?

  21. @Lot
    https://saraacarter.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/ElizabethWarren-2019-02-06-10.10.24.png

    https://pix-media.s3.amazonaws.com/blog/808/ScreenShot2014-09-09at11.45.37AM.png

    Look, Liz, you have made the Sicilian cry.

    • LOL: Kylie
  22. So the Democrat strategy this time around is blood libel.

    This has the added benefit that if they lose the general election, the country becomes even less governable.

  23. @Hail

    Michael Brown was murdered by a white police officer
     
    Libel, noun
    1. [LAW] a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation. | Synonyms: defamation, defamation of character, character assassination, calumny, misrepresentation; aspersions, denigration, vilification, slander, ...

    ____________________

    Why aren't statements like Warren's here punishable by libel law? I don't get it.

    Why even have libel laws if they can't be applied to this kind of case? She has defames and libeled of Darren Wilson (b.1986; the sad post-script: After being fired from the police force by a CNN-led pitchfork mob, he went into a period of unemployment and eventually surfaced as a minimum-wage-or-so shoe salesman at a chain store).

    Wilson did nothing wrong and was not convicted of 'murdering' Brown. Her libel of Wilson hurts all Whites, but especially White Christian males, a mass blood-libel against over one hundred million people on this continent. And it seems empirically proven, now, to have caused thousands of excess deaths these past five years.

    What is the solution to this kind of cheap, anti-White demagoguery:

    An American ex-CEO and current right-wing think tank leader, Curt Doolittle, proposes making all political statements subject to libel law, a one-fell-swoop way to take back a dramatic amount of ground:


    Yes it is possible to use this methodology to plug holes in our common law, our legislative processes, and our judicial processes. Because the method, by producing a formal logic of the ‘soft (human)’ sciences enables and forces judgements made not by interpretation but by application of that logic.

    The prosecution of lies in the commons is possible because today we successfully suppress fraud in commercial speech, and in the past we used to prosecute scolding, libel, slander, fraud, fraud by omission, fraud by conspiracy, and treason in defense of the commons (King’s Peace).

    We allowed the state and the left to use the hole in ‘free speech’, rather than free truthful speech, to destroy our protections of the informational commons. And we did not repair the holes in the constitution
     

    So "Lock Her Up" -- Warren, that is -- for libel, for incitement to hatred against a specific race (White-European-Christians in the USA) and thus treason. Maybe no need to lock her up, but do convict her of libel.

    So you think the right will be the primary beneficiary of scaling back the First Amendment?

    I’d say more likely, the primary loser, especially the HBD aware right.

    Doolittle says political speech should be regulated like commercial speech. That is definitely scaling back the 1st Amendment, as we’ve always had the rule that like obscenity it gets the least protection, with political speech getting the most.

    Here’s some background:

    https://mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/900/commercial-speech

    • Replies: @Hail

    scaling back the First Amendment
     
    ‘free speech’

    vs.

    free truthful speech

    _______________

    'Spot the difference' game:

    Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press
     

    Congress shall make no law...abridging the ability to lie in the name of social justice, or make accusations of crimes or other nefarious acts in the name of same, or incite racial violence against White Supremacists
     
    , @J.Ross
    There's no free speech issue here. Nobody has free speech to call somebody a murderer, that's well over the line. Darren Wilson merits the same protection of law as a person who has not been eating babies but is so wrongly accused.
  24. After being fired from the police force by a CNN-led pitchfork mob, he went into a period of unemployment and eventually surfaced as a minimum-wage-or-so shoe salesman at a chain store).

    At least now he is doing something productive instead of living off the sweat of the tax payer’s brow. I am surprised he was even qualified to sell shoes. The average cop isn’t even smart enough to pick up cans on the side of the road.

    • Agree: Autochthon
    • Disagree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Troll: bruce county
    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    And YOUR people came over on the Mayflower??
  25. Nationalize Uber

    Founder & CEO of Phenomenal: http://instagram.com/phenomenal • Head of Strategy & Leadership at Uber • Mom, Lawyer, etc!

    • Replies: @Hail
    Meena Harris. Strange-looking woman --

    -- almost certain to be unpleasant, for those who have to deal with her.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1111706269541294081/iTZC1djh_400x400.png


    With all the talk of red flags these days, I'd suggest a grown woman wearing a t-shirt on which is emblazoned the words

    Phenomenal Woman!
     
    is a personality red flag.
    , @Anon
    Endorsing a constant illegal flow of new voters to one's party is fighting White Supremacy.
    , @Hopscotch
    That is Kamala Harris' niece. Uber gave her a no-show job to avoid being nationalized.

    And you can bet, if Kamala is nominated in 2020, Uber will send many, many reminders to their drivers to vote, particularly in swing states.
  26. @Lot
    https://saraacarter.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/ElizabethWarren-2019-02-06-10.10.24.png

    https://pix-media.s3.amazonaws.com/blog/808/ScreenShot2014-09-09at11.45.37AM.png

    Say what you will, she has PROVED that she has Amerindian ancestry.

    • Agree: BengaliCanadianDude
    • Disagree: Hail
    • Replies: @TWS
    Maybe. If it is it's only South American. She cannot be linked to any American tribe any American who had been in this country for as many generations as Warren likely has some ancestry.
    , @International Jew
    In the same sense that you have just proven you have a frontal cortex.
    , @Hail
    The raw result of her 23andMe-like test was 0.35% Amerindian subject to a small margin of error.

    Recent 23andMe studies suggest the US White non-Hispanic genepool stands at <0.30% Amerindian as a mean (a big, often-quoted 2014 study found 0.18%, and with a large enough standard deviation that many/most of us clock-in at 0.0% and a few people do indeed have several percent, e.g. the people with one great-grandparent who had significant Red Indian ancestry. Warren, of course, passed herself off as even more Amerind still than that).

    It's safe to say that many tens of millions of White Americans have as much or more Amerindian trace ancestry than Elizabeth Warren.

    , @bomag

    she has PROVED that she has Amerindian ancestry
     
    In a way, no; she proved she has so little that any unique gene expression from that quarter is likely nil.
    , @More R1b, Less H1B
    The results suggested an Amerindian ancestor six to ten generations ago. How many of your thousand-plus great-great-great-great-grandparents can you name, let alone share biographical information on? The whole foundation of her identity as a Red Woman rests on her 'family lore,' yet we have no way of knowing if that squaw DNA is even on the branch she asserts it is. Other members of the same family say they haven't heard the stories (including those about the opposition to 'interracial marriage' faced by her ivory-white grandparents.) If you look through enough haystacks, sometimes you'll find a needle. Hell, sometimes it's not even the one you were looking for.

    If I tell my grandkids that Yakub the Scientist grew them out of a test tube in his subterranean Afrikan lab, and a 23andme twenty years later suggests 0.097% African DNA, that doesn't make the narrative any less absurd.
    , @pyrrhus
    No, 1/1024 South American "Amerind" is probably just an erroneous extrapolation of a DNA strand...It doesn't prove anything...
    , @Alden
    2 parents 4 grandparents 16 great grandparents 64 great great grand parents 4,096 great great great grandparents that’s only about 150 years
  27. I’m embarrassed for the huwhyte Democratic candidates who seem to think that this will somehow gain them favor. Do they not realize how idiotic this tactic is?

    • Replies: @Alden
    They want to win the primaries. That’s why they’re ignoring Hispanics & LGBTU whatever the acronym is. They’re going for their ruling faction, the 109 year old big city blacks and Jews who will decide the primaries

    Although the Jews all live in Greenwich, New Bedford Great Neck 5 Towns Shaker Heights, Lake Forest Highland Park, Edina, Capitol Hill Marin county Pacific Heights Presidio Heights Sea Cliff, Encino, Bel Air Brentwood, Woodland Hills Beverly Hills as far as possible from their beloved and adored blacks and still be in the Metro area nowadays.
  28. The world lost so much that day.

    RIP

    • Replies: @Bugg
    Would love to have had Michael Brown hang with Kristen Gilllibrand's kids some fine afternoon. Brown would've beat the living shit out of them for $20. Exactly the kind of suburban SJW moron who doesn't have a clue what mayhem is going on in cities every day and night.
    , @BengaliCanadianDude
    Brown attacking brown. Oof
    , @South Texas Guy
    If the GOP was smart (yeah, I know...), they'd buy some spots to challenge these idiots about this. Nice white ladies may not like Trump's rough-around-the-edges tweets, but they like getting robbed, raped and killed even less.

    Cruz lost at least a point, probably two, by not taking the Beto challenge seriously. Once you get people used to thinking a certain thing happened a certain way (Anita Hill, now half maybe more think she was telling the truth when the facts show otherwise), it's very hard to dislodge them from that position.

    It also took a lot of damn time for Southerners and Midwesterners to say to themselves, 'wait a minute. Why am I voting for democrats?'

    Harris may have cost herself by going full 'murder' on this. The other ones never had a chance at the nom. Keep in mind hispanic cops shoot black criminals, too, and they won't be too happy with this.
  29. According to Black’s Law Dictionary, murder is defined as the killing of a human being with malice aforethought. Hail, above, gives the definition of libel. You decide.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    According to Black’s Law Dictionary, murder is defined as the killing of a human being with malice aforethought
     
    Define "malice aforethought".
    , @Bubba
    Eric Holder's DOJ investigated Darren Wilson and stated this:

    The only possible basis for prosecuting Wilson under section 242 would therefore be if the government could prove that his account is not true – i.e., that Brown never assaulted Wilson at the SUV, never attempted to gain control of Wilson’s gun, and thereafter clearly surrendered in a way that no reasonable officer could have failed to perceive. Given that Wilson’s account is corroborated by physical evidence and that his perception of a threat posed by Brown is corroborated by other eyewitnesses, to include aspects of the testimony of Witness 101, there is no credible evidence that Wilson willfully shot Brown as he was attempting to surrender or was otherwise not posing a threat.
     
    https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/doj_report_on_shooting_of_michael_brown_1.pdf

    Fauxahontas the affirmative action Harvard Law Professor might want to give white man Darren Wilson big wampum to avoid costly lawsuit and diverting attention from cowardly Presidential campaign.

    Sounds like a test balloon...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8qjxT1iIAM
    , @guest
    What is this "you decide" junk? If anyone could prove the cop had "malice aforethought" he'd be in jail.
  30. Kind of hard to see how whichever moron gets to be the D nominee can “pivot back to the center” after this kind of bulletin board material.

    Sort of like thw Steeler’s cornerback who spent all week talking about how over the hill Tom Brady was, and then tried to walk it back before the game. Brady threw at him all day, and torched him.

    Like the wise man said, “Don’t let your mouth write no tickets your ass can’t cash”.

  31. Elizabeth Warren registered with forked tongue/pen.

  32. @Lot
    http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_missouri_robbery_wy_140815_v4x3_4x3_992.jpg

    The world lost so much that day.

    RIP

    http://media.breitbart.com/media/2017/03/michael-brown-cctv.jpg

    Would love to have had Michael Brown hang with Kristen Gilllibrand’s kids some fine afternoon. Brown would’ve beat the living shit out of them for $20. Exactly the kind of suburban SJW moron who doesn’t have a clue what mayhem is going on in cities every day and night.

    • Agree: Cortes
  33. Ahhh, she’s trying to boost her way into second place for 15 minutes:

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    The chart further down the page, which tracks the composite poll results over time, is pretty informative. Warren's on a tear, and Kamala has lost her 'righteous debate' bump.

    I'm still surprised at how well Biden is doing. Can't explain it really.
  34. @Lot
    https://saraacarter.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/ElizabethWarren-2019-02-06-10.10.24.png

    https://pix-media.s3.amazonaws.com/blog/808/ScreenShot2014-09-09at11.45.37AM.png

    Now that’s good meme-in’

    • Agree: Kronos
  35. According to Merriam-Webster, the common definition of murder is: “to kill (a human being) unlawfully and with premeditated malice.”

    So this is what they are accusing Wilson of doing in their tweets to the entire country. This could obviously expose him to violent retribution by BLM or Antifa types.

    Of course, no one charged him and I do believe he was effectively cleared of wrongdoing by an exhaustive investigation. All the candidates know, or should know, these facts.

    As far as I know, there is no “politician defense” that allows you to say: “Hey, I’m a slimy politician, so everyone is on notice that I’m lying whenever my lips are moving. If you take me seriously, that’s on you.”

    I think Wilson could (and should) sue for liable.

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    Warren is liable for libel.
    , @Bill Jones
    But it must be true!
    Warren read it in The Times.
  36. Message to cops. The Purge 5: Get Whitey is playing in your city. Don’t even think about trying to arrest Black people for breaking the law.

    Crime will skyrocket which is the plan. Get Whitey get Whitey get Whitey. That’s it. They don’t need to hide it anymore.

    Trump just caved on guns and social media. Functionally he’s worse than a President Hillary as he makes the Woke mad and hoping to kill us. Literally as in the Hunt and Last Supper.

    This is why Dems want your guns. So the Michael Browns can vibrantly enrich us. No need for camps. When vibrant enrichment is around the corner.

  37. When it comes to organizing legal efforts, the Left makes conservatives look like fools. The Left has no shortage of legal funds to handle this scenario, where if Anne Coulter or Rush Limbaugh said the equivalent, they would be hit with a lawsuit the next day.

    Even if the police officer wished to sue, it is guaranteed:
    – his name will be dragged back through the mud, worsening (already meager) employment prospects.
    – he will need to take time off work to sue, and presumably, find a lawyer to work on contingency since he is broke.

    It’s even worse in the case of a newspaper or media outlet, since they can both insure against libel and will often be heard by a sympathetic judge, if it even makes it to trial. This creates a massive asymmetry, where defendants basically risk higher insurance premiums (and the occasional settlement) and a small-time plaintiff, often risks their livelihood and their family’s quality of life for the foreseeable future

    In a world of crowd-funding, conservatives could be empowering these plaintiffs and coordinating them for maximum damage. But other than cases like Hogan v. Gawker or egregious cases like Oberlin, conservatives let the Left operate with impunity.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    In a world of crowd-funding, conservatives could be empowering these plaintiffs and coordinating them for maximum damage. But other than cases like Hogan v. Gawker or egregious cases like Oberlin, conservatives let the Left operate with impunity.
     
    What choice do they have?
    , @Alfa158
    The problem in organizing the crowd-funding is that the simplest ways using online resources like GoFundMe are not available to right wing causes. These sites are run by SJWs who screen the causes for political conformity and in the have past have shut down unacceptable crowd funding efforts and even confiscated the funds donated up to that point. Credit card companies will also close the payee accounts to stop donations being made by credit card. Any effort to crowd-fund Darren Wilson will be closed down within the first day.
    A crowd funding operation would have to operate on cash and check donation mailed which makes it harder to publicize the cause and collect money.
    , @Anonymous
    But it’s a legal fact. Wilson is NOT a murderer. This was established in a court of law after much scrutiny.

    It seems like a simple case to me. It should be anyway.
    , @Alden
    Both from a former job and one section of the family business, I’m all too familiar with lawyers and litigation.

    One would think that with the hordes graduating from law school every year, there’s be lots of hungry attorneys happy to take on conservative White Nationalist cases.

    But attorneys won’t take on conservative White Nationalist cases for 2 reasons.

    1 They know they’ll lose.
    2 Bar ethics forbid attorneys from taking cases they know have no merit.

    And in America a conservative or White cause has no merit. No merit doesn’t mean no merit morally. It means it’s un winnable because of anti conservative anti White laws and judicial precedents

    Also, there is a big difference between conservative causes and pro White causes.

    Darren Wilson’s is a pro White cause, not a conservative cause. The Covington Catholic Prep students cause is a pro White cause. It’s not a conservative cause despite the fact the boys were in DC, the realm of Satan, for an anti abortion demonstration.

    Plenty of catholic high school students sent students to march in the demonstration. We all know that if the homeless Indian had shoved his drum into the face of a Hispanic looking, Spanish surname Catholic school girl the anti White anti catholic media wouldn’t have done a thing when the homeless Indian sent his video to the TV channels

    Really, he’s an Indian grifter activist and can’t even hustle enough grant money to rent a cheap studio apt ?

    There’s conservative causes such as anti abortion, anti labor union abolish minimum wage, wars on behalf of Israel anti gay&tranny

    Then there’s White causes. White causes and conservative causes have nothing in common

    For economic issues, conservatism and pro Whitism the 2 issues are completely totally absolutely opposed.
  38. Well, it looks like she really needs to do something drastic to get into second place:

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primaries/democratic/national/

    • Replies: @Anon
    Judging from the numbers, Warren's debate performance hurt her quite a bit. She's gone from the teens to 8%. Democratic women, who ought to be her natural backers, don't care for her that much or she'd be at 50% instead of at 8% in the latest poll. Harris is as weak as ever at 6%. Harris' inability to do better indicates that there's a large, hard core of Democrats who simply hate her. It look a lot like voters are really turned off by the fact that Warren used her fake Indian claim to get ahead, and that Harris slept with an elderly Willie Brown to advance her career.

    Most Democratic voters don't trust either of those women, and that includes the majority of female Democratic voters. If you assume Dem women are 50% of the Dem vote, and you add Harris and Warren's percents together, that's just 14%. 36% of the remaining Democratic vote total is female, and they're refusing to back either Warren or Harris. Neither of them has the support that Hillary had.

  39. 5 years ago Michael Brown was murdered by a white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri.

    Yes. Indeed he was.

    12 years ago, in January of 2007, in Knoxville, Chris Newsom and his girlfriend Channon Christian were hijacked from their vehicle, tortured, raped, battered and brutalized in every imaginable way by 5 blacks. Channon got the worst of it, being sexually assaulted every way you could think of, had bleach poured down her throat, then a plastic bag placed over her head and she was stuffed into a garbage can and left there to slowly suffocate. “Prior to this, they allegedly tried to strangle her, but she regained consciousness when they stopped putting pressure around her neck.” By the way, by all reports, they were nice kids, not trouble makers in any way.

    Now, Ms Warren, have you even heard of these crimes? If you did, that would be a miracle, because they received almost no coverage in the mainstream media except locally.

    So, if you please, piss off.

    • Replies: @Prester John
    A pity this incident didn't take place in mirror image. It would've been front and center among the MSM types.
  40. The Democrats really want to lose the Basket of Deplorables vote. There’s a lot of us.

    • Replies: @Bubba
    And Trump is crapping on the Basket of Deplorables that elected him. If just 1% of Deplorables in Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, & Pennsylvania don't show up in 2020, then Trump will lose. He needs to stop listening to Javanka.
  41. And Tom Steyer should be on trial for mass murder since he made billions running a Wall Street hedge fund by investing in fossil fuels. He must be held accountable and tried for crimes against humanity since he provided the funds to pollute the air which annually murdered hundreds of thousands of Americans while he made his billions.

    https://e360.yale.edu/digest/us-air-pollution-deaths-nearly-halved-over-two-decades

    • Replies: @guest
    Look, Steyer is smart enough to say killer, which is literally true. Smarter than the politicians.

    Oh, wait. He thinks the worst thing about Burning Ferguson is that Mr. Wilson roams free. Not all the extra murders of black folk.
  42. @Mr McKenna
    She gives the impression of a bot talking.

    That's not deliberate, is it?

    I seriously doubt she posts her own tweets or is even aware that she has a twitter account.

    I imagine her account is run by some 25 year old chick with a grievance studies degree, wearing a burka and lots of makeup.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Right, but do you imagine she disagrees?
    , @Prester John
    Could be. On the other hand she is clearly not the only one who is chanting the usual and boring denunciations in a game of virtue signalling. I sometimes wonder whether or not in their heart of hearts these people really believe half of this stuff. Money talks--and these people, like all politicians, will say anything so they can line their pockets.
  43. The Gulag is in the future for deplorables.

  44. @Bubba
    Warren proves (again) she is not qualified to be a professor at a TTT (Third Tier Toilet) law school, let alone Harvard.

    Given that Wilson’s account is corroborated by physical evidence and that his perception of a threat posed by Brown is corroborated by other eyewitnesses, to include aspects of the testimony of Witness 101, there is no credible evidence that Wilson willfully shot Brown as he was attempting to surrender or was otherwise not posing a threat.
     
    https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/doj_report_on_shooting_of_michael_brown_1.pdf

    I hope ex-Officer Darren Wilson sues her for defamation.

    I doubt it, he doesn’t have the money. The Zimmerman trial bankrupt (or nearly) Zimmerman himself. In any case, it’s a political candidate taking pot shots at a event that occurred 5 years ago. Warren understands the realities of the case, but is trying to drum up political support from a very “excitable” demographic.

  45. @Anonymous
    Say what you will, she has PROVED that she has Amerindian ancestry.

    Maybe. If it is it’s only South American. She cannot be linked to any American tribe any American who had been in this country for as many generations as Warren likely has some ancestry.

  46. @Lot
    So you think the right will be the primary beneficiary of scaling back the First Amendment?

    I’d say more likely, the primary loser, especially the HBD aware right.

    Doolittle says political speech should be regulated like commercial speech. That is definitely scaling back the 1st Amendment, as we’ve always had the rule that like obscenity it gets the least protection, with political speech getting the most.

    Here’s some background:

    https://mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/900/commercial-speech

    scaling back the First Amendment

    ‘free speech’

    vs.

    free truthful speech

    _______________

    ‘Spot the difference’ game:

    Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press

    Congress shall make no law…abridging the ability to lie in the name of social justice, or make accusations of crimes or other nefarious acts in the name of same, or incite racial violence against White Supremacists

  47. Yes … yesssss … yes my little pretties, make sure all the white voters hear that you think police officers should be a sort of crossing guard … [hand-rubbing intensifies]

  48. anon[171] • Disclaimer says:

    Why are they all focusing on how many times Brown was shot?

    I guess the focus groups tend to pick up on that part, and/or they’re all following the same script. But I don’t quite get it. Would they feel better if Brown had only been shot five times? Four? Less?

    …Thinking about it, I recall the late great Patrice O’Neal, on the Opie and Anthony show, talking about some then-recent police shooting, and Patrice – who is black – seemed very upset that the officers had shot that year’s Michael Brown some forty-odd times. (Three or four officers more or less emptying their guns into a car that was driving at them, as I recall.) I think he felt that the volume of bullets, being excessive, indicated that the violence was unnecessary, and therefore that the officers were just cruel and sadistic. (“Stark raving beasts,” as the LAPD’s Dudley Smith once said in a similar situation.)

    So perhaps that’s how “shot six times” reads to the public: He only needed to shoot him once, but he shot him six times! He’s a psychopath!

    Of course, commenters here know that the police are trained to shoot at a deadly threat non-stop until it ceases to be a deadly threat. Nobody wants to be the jackass who shoots an assailant once and then gets stabbed to death by him anyway. Imagine how silly you’d feel.

    • Replies: @guest
    At least in the movie Shawshank Redemption the D.A. emphasizes the fact that Andy Dufresne (allegedly) reloaded in the middle of shooting his wife and her lover (in flagrante delicto) in order to demonstrate that the crime was deliberate instead of done in a fit of passion.

    Otherwise, there's really no difference. Shoot to kill is shoot to kill.
    , @Kronos
    “So perhaps that’s how “shot six times” reads to the public: He only needed to shoot him once, but he shot him six times! He’s a psychopath!”

    There’s also an inverse analysis. He was a BIG boy! Multiple bullets were required to take his ass down. There are plenty of police reports on how PCP perpetrators kept charging even after being shot 3-4 times.

    I remember Wilson, explaining that Brown was tossing him around like Hulk Hogan.
  49. Now this is interesting: you can see pretty clearly that somebody’s making an effort to document on Wikipedia every single time an American cop shoots somebody, beginning, apparently, in 2009.

    I wonder what that’s all about?

    “The free encyclopaedia that anyone can edit.” But who’s “anyone”?

  50. @Lot
    So you think the right will be the primary beneficiary of scaling back the First Amendment?

    I’d say more likely, the primary loser, especially the HBD aware right.

    Doolittle says political speech should be regulated like commercial speech. That is definitely scaling back the 1st Amendment, as we’ve always had the rule that like obscenity it gets the least protection, with political speech getting the most.

    Here’s some background:

    https://mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/900/commercial-speech

    There’s no free speech issue here. Nobody has free speech to call somebody a murderer, that’s well over the line. Darren Wilson merits the same protection of law as a person who has not been eating babies but is so wrongly accused.

  51. @216
    Nationalize Uber

    https://twitter.com/meenaharris/status/1159876574247866368

    Founder & CEO of Phenomenal: http://instagram.com/phenomenal • Head of Strategy & Leadership at Uber • Mom, Lawyer, etc!
     

    Meena Harris. Strange-looking woman —

    — almost certain to be unpleasant, for those who have to deal with her.

    With all the talk of red flags these days, I’d suggest a grown woman wearing a t-shirt on which is emblazoned the words

    Phenomenal Woman!

    is a personality red flag.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    Well, on the bright side, she is wearing the appropriate team jacket. Or has she merely culturally appropriated it from real victims?
    , @Kyle
    She’s cute but the hoop earrings are a red flag. Either she doesn’t get that it’s a black girl thing, or she does get that it’s a black girl thing; I’m not sure which is worse.
    , @Bubba
    Jessica Hahn was far more intelligent and pleasing to the eyes than Meena Harris...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9na8z-qgjRg
    , @Bubba
    Does Harvard Law School really give that t-shirt along with their degree to graduating women at their commencement ceremony? Or just the affirmative action graduates that identify as a woman?

    Times have really changed...

  52. @MikeatMikedotMike
    I seriously doubt she posts her own tweets or is even aware that she has a twitter account.

    I imagine her account is run by some 25 year old chick with a grievance studies degree, wearing a burka and lots of makeup.

    Right, but do you imagine she disagrees?

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    After someone took the time to explain to her exactly who Michael Brown was, what the incident was, and where exactly Ferguson, MO is, then, well, no; I don't imagine so.
  53. Anon[175] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Compare to the el paso shooter killed 20 people and was arrested without incident. talk about white privilege

    People of Color agree with Warren and they are the future

    Compare to the el paso shooter killed 20 people and was arrested without incident. talk about white privilege

    The El Paso shooter wasn’t advancing toward police after trying to murder one of them with one of their own weapons.

    That’s a free lesson in how truth is in the detail and how your and the MSM’s spin is weak, transparent, and therefore widely and correctly discounted as a pack of lies in reference to attempted murderer Michael Brown.

    People of Color agree with Warren and they are the future

    People of Color, as a group, are universal morons as can be statistically observed. They are only the future if there is no Good in the Universe. Our oldest myths state otherwise.

  54. @216
    Nationalize Uber

    https://twitter.com/meenaharris/status/1159876574247866368

    Founder & CEO of Phenomenal: http://instagram.com/phenomenal • Head of Strategy & Leadership at Uber • Mom, Lawyer, etc!
     

    Endorsing a constant illegal flow of new voters to one’s party is fighting White Supremacy.

  55. @Peripatetic Commenter
    Ahhh, she's trying to boost her way into second place for 15 minutes:

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

    The chart further down the page, which tracks the composite poll results over time, is pretty informative. Warren’s on a tear, and Kamala has lost her ‘righteous debate’ bump.

    I’m still surprised at how well Biden is doing. Can’t explain it really.

    • Replies: @anon
    Apart from Biden, the others are shills.
    Sanders is only in it for the money, Harris probably VP, Warren to the SC or A-G, and the rest are doing it for the name recognition.
    , @MBlanc46
    A lot of white folks who vote Dem for historic reasons aren’t compete loons, and Biden is the one candidate who can pass for sane, at least in low light.
  56. @trelane
    According to Black's Law Dictionary, murder is defined as the killing of a human being with malice aforethought. Hail, above, gives the definition of libel. You decide.

    According to Black’s Law Dictionary, murder is defined as the killing of a human being with malice aforethought

    Define “malice aforethought”.

    • Replies: @Marty
    It doesn’t matter whether anyone can define MA. It’s undisputed that Wilson was attempting to defend himself. Even when the self-defense is “imperfect,” i.e. deadly force found not to have been necessary, the charge can only be manslaughter, never murder (admittedly a California analysis). So, the issue for the libel case would be whether Warren has any reason to believe that Wilson didn’t subjectively feel himself to be in danger. And she can’t.
    , @Jack D
    Basically, it means that you intended to cause the person's death. However justification (e.g. self defense) negates the malice aforethought. There's no doubt that the officer intended to kill the Gentle Giant but since it was justified it's OK.
  57. @Lot
    http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_missouri_robbery_wy_140815_v4x3_4x3_992.jpg

    The world lost so much that day.

    RIP

    http://media.breitbart.com/media/2017/03/michael-brown-cctv.jpg

    Brown attacking brown. Oof

  58. @Hopscotch
    When it comes to organizing legal efforts, the Left makes conservatives look like fools. The Left has no shortage of legal funds to handle this scenario, where if Anne Coulter or Rush Limbaugh said the equivalent, they would be hit with a lawsuit the next day.

    Even if the police officer wished to sue, it is guaranteed:
    - his name will be dragged back through the mud, worsening (already meager) employment prospects.
    - he will need to take time off work to sue, and presumably, find a lawyer to work on contingency since he is broke.

    It's even worse in the case of a newspaper or media outlet, since they can both insure against libel and will often be heard by a sympathetic judge, if it even makes it to trial. This creates a massive asymmetry, where defendants basically risk higher insurance premiums (and the occasional settlement) and a small-time plaintiff, often risks their livelihood and their family's quality of life for the foreseeable future

    In a world of crowd-funding, conservatives could be empowering these plaintiffs and coordinating them for maximum damage. But other than cases like Hogan v. Gawker or egregious cases like Oberlin, conservatives let the Left operate with impunity.

    In a world of crowd-funding, conservatives could be empowering these plaintiffs and coordinating them for maximum damage. But other than cases like Hogan v. Gawker or egregious cases like Oberlin, conservatives let the Left operate with impunity.

    What choice do they have?

  59. @Anonymous
    Say what you will, she has PROVED that she has Amerindian ancestry.

    In the same sense that you have just proven you have a frontal cortex.

    • LOL: Bubba
  60. @Tiny Duck
    Compare to the el paso shooter killed 20 people and was arrested without incident. talk about white privilege

    People of Color agree with Warren and they are the future

    The El Paso shooter put his hands up.

  61. @Jim Christian
    She's nuts, right? She read Obama's FBI report on the whole thing? This is the most retarded statement she ever made in her life.

    I wonder if superlawyer Joe Cotchett, who represented Valerie Plame in her libel action, will advocate for Darren Wilson.

  62. @Hail
    Meena Harris. Strange-looking woman --

    -- almost certain to be unpleasant, for those who have to deal with her.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1111706269541294081/iTZC1djh_400x400.png


    With all the talk of red flags these days, I'd suggest a grown woman wearing a t-shirt on which is emblazoned the words

    Phenomenal Woman!
     
    is a personality red flag.

    Well, on the bright side, she is wearing the appropriate team jacket. Or has she merely culturally appropriated it from real victims?

  63. @Anonymous
    Say what you will, she has PROVED that she has Amerindian ancestry.

    The raw result of her 23andMe-like test was 0.35% Amerindian subject to a small margin of error.

    Recent 23andMe studies suggest the US White non-Hispanic genepool stands at <0.30% Amerindian as a mean (a big, often-quoted 2014 study found 0.18%, and with a large enough standard deviation that many/most of us clock-in at 0.0% and a few people do indeed have several percent, e.g. the people with one great-grandparent who had significant Red Indian ancestry. Warren, of course, passed herself off as even more Amerind still than that).

    It's safe to say that many tens of millions of White Americans have as much or more Amerindian trace ancestry than Elizabeth Warren.

    • Agree: HammerJack
    • Replies: @Gordo

    The raw result of her 23andMe-like test was 0.35% Amerindian subject to a small margin of error.

    Recent 23andMe studies suggest the US White non-Hispanic genepool stands at <0.30% Amerindian as a mean (a big, often-quoted 2014 study found 0.18%, and with a large enough standard deviation that many/most of us clock-in at 0.0% and a few people do indeed have several percent, e.g. the people with one great-grandparent who had significant Red Indian ancestry. Warren, of course, passed herself off as even more Amerind still than that).

    It's safe to say that many tens of millions of White Americans have as much or more Amerindian trace ancestry than Elizabeth Warren.
     
    If a European person, from Europe I mean, moved to the USA and did a 23-and-me I'll bet they would be assigned a small proportion of Amerind DNA in their results, if they took the test from home they would be assigned a little SSA or West Asia.

    The margin of error is used for political purposes?
  64. @Jay Ritchie
    Wow. Hope he sues.

    The better move might be to relocate to a non extradition treaty country. Darren Wilson should be able to bankrupt Elizabeth Warren over that tweet, but we all know he would never win.

  65. With her shameless lying idiotic claims of Native American ancestry, it was already clear Warren, the laughable ‘Rachel Dolezal of the Senate’, was an ethno-masochist — this is just more ‘flight-from-white’-ish utter nonsense — her Twitter timeline is full of it to the point you start wondering if it’s a parody account.

    • Replies: @Anon
    It's really funny that Warren, who absolutely insists that she's American Indian, is dead quiet on the issue of whether American Indians ought to get reparations. She just talks about paying blacks. Someone ought to hassle her about that at one of her rallies.
  66. @Bubba
    Warren proves (again) she is not qualified to be a professor at a TTT (Third Tier Toilet) law school, let alone Harvard.

    Given that Wilson’s account is corroborated by physical evidence and that his perception of a threat posed by Brown is corroborated by other eyewitnesses, to include aspects of the testimony of Witness 101, there is no credible evidence that Wilson willfully shot Brown as he was attempting to surrender or was otherwise not posing a threat.
     
    https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/doj_report_on_shooting_of_michael_brown_1.pdf

    I hope ex-Officer Darren Wilson sues her for defamation.

    I doubt Officer Wilson wants to litigate whether he committed murder or not. He avoided a trial on this matter and it would be foolhardy to interject Mike Brown’s murder into the court system. I can’t imagine any lawyer would advise Officer Wilson to testify on the events of that day as he is still under statute of limitations for homicide. The Ferguson Police Department is likely indemnifying Officer Wilson for civil claims against him and since there has already been a civil settlement with the Brown family, I doubt the Department wants Officer Wilson reigniting any issues with respect to the Brown killing.

    • Replies: @Louis Renault
    Nice sophistry with the "reigniting" issues not being Senators Warren and Booker but the police department. Obama directed that DOJ investigate the matter. They didn't charge him. To quote Mueller, "they didn't exhonorate him". If only the DOJ office of exoneration had been around five years ago.
    , @Peripatetic Commenter
    There was no murder ...
    , @Bubba
    Like ex-officer Wilson has alot to lose. He's hiding and constantly living in fear from black Twitter, BLM, Antifa and every SJW revealing his whereabouts. He can never live a normal life again.

    That is some "freedom" in America for an honest man who was thoroughly investigated and basically exonerated by U.S. Attorney General (the highest law enforcement officer in the U.S.) Eric Holder who despises white people, especially white police officers.
  67. @Hail
    Meena Harris. Strange-looking woman --

    -- almost certain to be unpleasant, for those who have to deal with her.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1111706269541294081/iTZC1djh_400x400.png


    With all the talk of red flags these days, I'd suggest a grown woman wearing a t-shirt on which is emblazoned the words

    Phenomenal Woman!
     
    is a personality red flag.

    She’s cute but the hoop earrings are a red flag. Either she doesn’t get that it’s a black girl thing, or she does get that it’s a black girl thing; I’m not sure which is worse.

  68. @Hail
    Meena Harris. Strange-looking woman --

    -- almost certain to be unpleasant, for those who have to deal with her.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1111706269541294081/iTZC1djh_400x400.png


    With all the talk of red flags these days, I'd suggest a grown woman wearing a t-shirt on which is emblazoned the words

    Phenomenal Woman!
     
    is a personality red flag.

    Jessica Hahn was far more intelligent and pleasing to the eyes than Meena Harris…

  69. This may be what causes me finally to drop out for good.

  70. @Jim Christian
    She's nuts, right? She read Obama's FBI report on the whole thing? This is the most retarded statement she ever made in her life.

    If only Attorney General Eric Holder had done his job right. It’s right there in his Wikipedia page. Oh, sorry, not there? Guess that Black Attorney General didn’t do anything wrong afterall; which is why this non-event doesn’t appear under his name.

  71. @Clifford Brown
    I doubt Officer Wilson wants to litigate whether he committed murder or not. He avoided a trial on this matter and it would be foolhardy to interject Mike Brown's murder into the court system. I can't imagine any lawyer would advise Officer Wilson to testify on the events of that day as he is still under statute of limitations for homicide. The Ferguson Police Department is likely indemnifying Officer Wilson for civil claims against him and since there has already been a civil settlement with the Brown family, I doubt the Department wants Officer Wilson reigniting any issues with respect to the Brown killing.

    Nice sophistry with the “reigniting” issues not being Senators Warren and Booker but the police department. Obama directed that DOJ investigate the matter. They didn’t charge him. To quote Mueller, “they didn’t exhonorate him”. If only the DOJ office of exoneration had been around five years ago.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Obama directed that DOJ investigate the matter. They didn’t charge him. To quote Mueller, “they didn’t exhonorate him”. If only the DOJ office of exoneration had been around five years ago.
     
    So should Wilson bring a lawsuit or not.
    , @Clifford Brown
    It is not sophistry, it's cost benefit analysis. In light of everything, this would not be a case worth bringing. Officer Wilson should take solace that he avoided a criminal trial and is a free man. I agree that Officer Wilson was not exonerated, that's why you should avoid litigating the issue where he likely would have to testify. Once you go to trial, you never truly know what might happen, especially with a St. Louis jury. There is a possibility that his testimony could open Officer Wilson up to criminal prosecution. It is simply not worth it. The City of Ferguson paid the Brown family an undisclosed sum for Mike Brown's death. Neither the City of Ferguson nor Officer Wilson wants to disclose the nature of that settlement.

    This is not about moral righteousness, it is about legal strategy.
  72. President Trump weighs in on the Darren Wilson Question:

    (Cannot independently verify whether this tweet is genuine or not. Would you be surprised if it were real?)

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    Hail:

    The way DJT is acting today selling out his most loyal gun rights supporters, I wouldn't be surprised!
    , @Anon
    Sigh. You cannot mess around with a person's civil rights like this. Unfortunately, Trump is still the best of a bad lot.
  73. Warren’s comment is specific and Darren Wilson (the policeman who shot Brown should sue for libel as the cafe did to Oberlin. It’ll place the facts of the inquest squarely in front of the public and expose the lunacy of the whole leftist establishment.

    Could even swing the election.

    • Replies: @Marty
    What tremendous fun it would be to take her deposition. “Professor, on what do you rely on for your assertion that 6 bullets is excessive in repelling a 300-pound man intent on choking you to death? Do you have some information to the effect that a possibly drug-fueled 300-pound man poses no risk of great bodily injury simply because he hasn’t reached his 20th birthday?”
  74. Slate of all places had a post yesterday on the mythical nature of the popular conception of Michael Brown’s death.
    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/08/ferguson-narrative-legacy-wrong-police-violence.html
    That features John McWhorter, who is admittedly a regular Slate contributor, but that’s usually in the form of his Lexicon Valley podcast rather than anything topical.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    McWhorter's a bright dude. Blue-voting liberal, but intelligent, sane, and perceptive.

    I'd recommend anybody here to check out his articles, particularly his accurate noting of the disturbingly religious character of 21st Century white liberal attitudes toward race.
  75. Isn’t the tweet above both a lie and a libel?

    Is a “tweet” libelous, or just slanderous? Where is the line between them drawn with “social media”?

  76. @TGGP
    Slate of all places had a post yesterday on the mythical nature of the popular conception of Michael Brown's death.
    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/08/ferguson-narrative-legacy-wrong-police-violence.html
    That features John McWhorter, who is admittedly a regular Slate contributor, but that's usually in the form of his Lexicon Valley podcast rather than anything topical.

    McWhorter’s a bright dude. Blue-voting liberal, but intelligent, sane, and perceptive.

    I’d recommend anybody here to check out his articles, particularly his accurate noting of the disturbingly religious character of 21st Century white liberal attitudes toward race.

    • Replies: @Paco Wové
    Got any links?
  77. Lying to whip up racial hate of Whites gets out the votes for the Dems. KKKrazy glue and all that.

    They know exactly what they are doing.

    It will get worse before it gets better. Much worse.

  78. @Clifford Brown
    I doubt Officer Wilson wants to litigate whether he committed murder or not. He avoided a trial on this matter and it would be foolhardy to interject Mike Brown's murder into the court system. I can't imagine any lawyer would advise Officer Wilson to testify on the events of that day as he is still under statute of limitations for homicide. The Ferguson Police Department is likely indemnifying Officer Wilson for civil claims against him and since there has already been a civil settlement with the Brown family, I doubt the Department wants Officer Wilson reigniting any issues with respect to the Brown killing.

    There was no murder …

    • Agree: Bubba
  79. To Elizabeth Warren, Harris, Sanders, etc

    Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom were unarmed.

    • Agree: Liza
  80. @Clifford Brown
    I doubt Officer Wilson wants to litigate whether he committed murder or not. He avoided a trial on this matter and it would be foolhardy to interject Mike Brown's murder into the court system. I can't imagine any lawyer would advise Officer Wilson to testify on the events of that day as he is still under statute of limitations for homicide. The Ferguson Police Department is likely indemnifying Officer Wilson for civil claims against him and since there has already been a civil settlement with the Brown family, I doubt the Department wants Officer Wilson reigniting any issues with respect to the Brown killing.

    Like ex-officer Wilson has alot to lose. He’s hiding and constantly living in fear from black Twitter, BLM, Antifa and every SJW revealing his whereabouts. He can never live a normal life again.

    That is some “freedom” in America for an honest man who was thoroughly investigated and basically exonerated by U.S. Attorney General (the highest law enforcement officer in the U.S.) Eric Holder who despises white people, especially white police officers.

  81. Anon[163] • Disclaimer says:

    Elizabeth Warren is a fine exemplar of the fact that women never admit they’re wrong. She’s still clinging to her initial false notion about Michael Brown despite the evidence, exactly the way she still clings to the false narrative that she has American Indian ancestry. People who stubbornly cling to falsehood in the face of facts make lousy leaders. Protecting their own fat egos is more important than being factually correct or being competent. They give neutral observers the impression of being out of touch with reality, and of living in a narcissistic fantasy-land of wishful thinking and make-believe.

  82. @Hail
    President Trump weighs in on the Darren Wilson Question:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBkvG2ZX4AU5STH.png

    (Cannot independently verify whether this tweet is genuine or not. Would you be surprised if it were real?)

    Hail:

    The way DJT is acting today selling out his most loyal gun rights supporters, I wouldn’t be surprised!

  83. Anon[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @Peripatetic Commenter
    Well, it looks like she really needs to do something drastic to get into second place:

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primaries/democratic/national/

    Judging from the numbers, Warren’s debate performance hurt her quite a bit. She’s gone from the teens to 8%. Democratic women, who ought to be her natural backers, don’t care for her that much or she’d be at 50% instead of at 8% in the latest poll. Harris is as weak as ever at 6%. Harris’ inability to do better indicates that there’s a large, hard core of Democrats who simply hate her. It look a lot like voters are really turned off by the fact that Warren used her fake Indian claim to get ahead, and that Harris slept with an elderly Willie Brown to advance her career.

    Most Democratic voters don’t trust either of those women, and that includes the majority of female Democratic voters. If you assume Dem women are 50% of the Dem vote, and you add Harris and Warren’s percents together, that’s just 14%. 36% of the remaining Democratic vote total is female, and they’re refusing to back either Warren or Harris. Neither of them has the support that Hillary had.

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    Biden's numbers reflect his popularity with Black voters as Obama's VP.

    Therefore to beat Biden a candidate must Out-Black him and reduce his appeal by making him seem a hidden klansman or Obama an uncle Tom.

    Expect Harris to make that play. Proposing stuff to personally humiliate every White dude in front of Black people.

    Wild card if Oprah enters the race she's President. Every Black and Hispanic votes for her as well as every White woman.

    Trump after throwing his supporters under the bus cannot win.
  84. @Tark Marg
    Warren’s comment is specific and Darren Wilson (the policeman who shot Brown should sue for libel as the cafe did to Oberlin. It’ll place the facts of the inquest squarely in front of the public and expose the lunacy of the whole leftist establishment.

    Could even swing the election.

    What tremendous fun it would be to take her deposition. “Professor, on what do you rely on for your assertion that 6 bullets is excessive in repelling a 300-pound man intent on choking you to death? Do you have some information to the effect that a possibly drug-fueled 300-pound man poses no risk of great bodily injury simply because he hasn’t reached his 20th birthday?”

  85. @Hail
    President Trump weighs in on the Darren Wilson Question:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBkvG2ZX4AU5STH.png

    (Cannot independently verify whether this tweet is genuine or not. Would you be surprised if it were real?)

    Sigh. You cannot mess around with a person’s civil rights like this. Unfortunately, Trump is still the best of a bad lot.

  86. @Flip
    The Democrats really want to lose the Basket of Deplorables vote. There's a lot of us.

    And Trump is crapping on the Basket of Deplorables that elected him. If just 1% of Deplorables in Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, & Pennsylvania don’t show up in 2020, then Trump will lose. He needs to stop listening to Javanka.

    • Agree: JudgeSmails
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    Agree.
    , @Flip
    Agree. Saying he wants to increase legal immigration and releasing arrested illegals is not why we put him in office.
  87. @eah
    With her shameless lying idiotic claims of Native American ancestry, it was already clear Warren, the laughable 'Rachel Dolezal of the Senate', was an ethno-masochist -- this is just more 'flight-from-white'-ish utter nonsense -- her Twitter timeline is full of it to the point you start wondering if it's a parody account.

    https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1141487298959282177

    It’s really funny that Warren, who absolutely insists that she’s American Indian, is dead quiet on the issue of whether American Indians ought to get reparations. She just talks about paying blacks. Someone ought to hassle her about that at one of her rallies.

    • Agree: Mr. Anon
  88. @Louis Renault
    Nice sophistry with the "reigniting" issues not being Senators Warren and Booker but the police department. Obama directed that DOJ investigate the matter. They didn't charge him. To quote Mueller, "they didn't exhonorate him". If only the DOJ office of exoneration had been around five years ago.

    Obama directed that DOJ investigate the matter. They didn’t charge him. To quote Mueller, “they didn’t exhonorate him”. If only the DOJ office of exoneration had been around five years ago.

    So should Wilson bring a lawsuit or not.

  89. @Anonymous

    According to Black’s Law Dictionary, murder is defined as the killing of a human being with malice aforethought
     
    Define "malice aforethought".

    It doesn’t matter whether anyone can define MA. It’s undisputed that Wilson was attempting to defend himself. Even when the self-defense is “imperfect,” i.e. deadly force found not to have been necessary, the charge can only be manslaughter, never murder (admittedly a California analysis). So, the issue for the libel case would be whether Warren has any reason to believe that Wilson didn’t subjectively feel himself to be in danger. And she can’t.

  90. Why are the Dems so excited about Ferguson? Did the issue come up in the debates?

    I must have missed something. I do not know why any candidate would want to revisit this issue.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Why are the Dems so excited about Ferguson? Did the issue come up in the debates?

    I must have missed something. I do not know why any candidate would want to revisit this issue.
     

    Missouri has ten Electors.
    , @Moses

    Why are the Dems so excited about Ferguson? Did the issue come up in the debates?

    I must have missed something. I do not know why any candidate would want to revisit this issue.
     
    Duh. Whip up more anti-White hate. Reliable way to get out Dem votes.

    Come on.
  91. @NoWeltschmerz
    Fauxcahontas....blah blah blah and yet she is a contender. Like Hillary, Warren is innumerate and doesn't understand how the electoral college works. Nevertheless, just a few more years of invasion and we're done. The excesses of the left were met with punishing losses at the polls starting in the late 1960s. Hard leftists didn't change their stripes, but they did begin the long march through he institutions and seasoned Democrats responded politically by changing their rhetoric and putting forth more ostensibly "moderate" candidates to appeal to the majority. Well, the majority ain't what (or, more importantly, who) they used to be. Two and half years into broken promises from Trump vis-a-vis immigration restriction and there does seem to be an inevitability to true leftist domination of the U.S. Trump may get another term, and perhaps he'll pull an Obama and implement policies that he wanted but didn't dare champion during his first term. I wouldn't wager too much on that, though. Even the implementation of some mild immigration restrictionist policies during a theoretical second term wouldn't be enough because there will be no subsequent mainstream Republican who dares to embrace Trump's campaign rhetoric or promised policies and there are few glittering rich outsiders who will run and self-fund a Trump-like campaign.

    Part of me wishes she would become the President. Elizabeth Warren is the death rattle of second wave feminism. An ugly ideology that should have been buried in a shallow grave when Hillary lost the Presidency for the second time but is still giving us one last noxious queeve expelled from the methane from its rotting corpse.

    The whole United States would so quickly become so sick of her Cun*y pedantic noise that by the end of her first term we would be permanently done with white liberals in general, and gays, feminists, socialists, and the rest of the baby boomer counter culture rot in specific. Like Obama, where we had to exorcise our black daemons, it would be like one big National enema where we could finally eliminate the women’s movement as if it were a bowl movement.

    • Replies: @Anon
    I don't know about that. The Germans en masse haven't gotten tired of Merkel yet, even though they should know better by now.
  92. @trelane
    According to Black's Law Dictionary, murder is defined as the killing of a human being with malice aforethought. Hail, above, gives the definition of libel. You decide.

    Eric Holder’s DOJ investigated Darren Wilson and stated this:

    The only possible basis for prosecuting Wilson under section 242 would therefore be if the government could prove that his account is not true – i.e., that Brown never assaulted Wilson at the SUV, never attempted to gain control of Wilson’s gun, and thereafter clearly surrendered in a way that no reasonable officer could have failed to perceive. Given that Wilson’s account is corroborated by physical evidence and that his perception of a threat posed by Brown is corroborated by other eyewitnesses, to include aspects of the testimony of Witness 101, there is no credible evidence that Wilson willfully shot Brown as he was attempting to surrender or was otherwise not posing a threat.

    https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/doj_report_on_shooting_of_michael_brown_1.pdf

    Fauxahontas the affirmative action Harvard Law Professor might want to give white man Darren Wilson big wampum to avoid costly lawsuit and diverting attention from cowardly Presidential campaign.

    Sounds like a test balloon…

  93. Until Black people are no longer disproportionately killed by police…

    That will happen only when they no longer disproportionately commit crimes.

  94. How hard is it for whoever does their typing to type shot or killed instead of murdered?

  95. @trelane
    According to Black's Law Dictionary, murder is defined as the killing of a human being with malice aforethought. Hail, above, gives the definition of libel. You decide.

    What is this “you decide” junk? If anyone could prove the cop had “malice aforethought” he’d be in jail.

  96. @Bubba
    And Tom Steyer should be on trial for mass murder since he made billions running a Wall Street hedge fund by investing in fossil fuels. He must be held accountable and tried for crimes against humanity since he provided the funds to pollute the air which annually murdered hundreds of thousands of Americans while he made his billions.

    https://twitter.com/TomSteyer/status/1159903935152447488

    https://e360.yale.edu/digest/us-air-pollution-deaths-nearly-halved-over-two-decades

    Look, Steyer is smart enough to say killer, which is literally true. Smarter than the politicians.

    Oh, wait. He thinks the worst thing about Burning Ferguson is that Mr. Wilson roams free. Not all the extra murders of black folk.

    • Agree: Bubba
  97. @anon
    Why are they all focusing on how many times Brown was shot?

    I guess the focus groups tend to pick up on that part, and/or they're all following the same script. But I don't quite get it. Would they feel better if Brown had only been shot five times? Four? Less?

    ...Thinking about it, I recall the late great Patrice O'Neal, on the Opie and Anthony show, talking about some then-recent police shooting, and Patrice - who is black - seemed very upset that the officers had shot that year's Michael Brown some forty-odd times. (Three or four officers more or less emptying their guns into a car that was driving at them, as I recall.) I think he felt that the volume of bullets, being excessive, indicated that the violence was unnecessary, and therefore that the officers were just cruel and sadistic. ("Stark raving beasts," as the LAPD's Dudley Smith once said in a similar situation.)

    So perhaps that's how "shot six times" reads to the public: He only needed to shoot him once, but he shot him six times! He's a psychopath!

    Of course, commenters here know that the police are trained to shoot at a deadly threat non-stop until it ceases to be a deadly threat. Nobody wants to be the jackass who shoots an assailant once and then gets stabbed to death by him anyway. Imagine how silly you'd feel.

    At least in the movie Shawshank Redemption the D.A. emphasizes the fact that Andy Dufresne (allegedly) reloaded in the middle of shooting his wife and her lover (in flagrante delicto) in order to demonstrate that the crime was deliberate instead of done in a fit of passion.

    Otherwise, there’s really no difference. Shoot to kill is shoot to kill.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    IIRC Racehorse Haynes said once he'd hve gotten even more of his clients off if they hadn't stopped to reload.
  98. @Roger
    Why are the Dems so excited about Ferguson? Did the issue come up in the debates?

    I must have missed something. I do not know why any candidate would want to revisit this issue.

    Why are the Dems so excited about Ferguson? Did the issue come up in the debates?

    I must have missed something. I do not know why any candidate would want to revisit this issue.

    Missouri has ten Electors.

  99. @Hopscotch
    When it comes to organizing legal efforts, the Left makes conservatives look like fools. The Left has no shortage of legal funds to handle this scenario, where if Anne Coulter or Rush Limbaugh said the equivalent, they would be hit with a lawsuit the next day.

    Even if the police officer wished to sue, it is guaranteed:
    - his name will be dragged back through the mud, worsening (already meager) employment prospects.
    - he will need to take time off work to sue, and presumably, find a lawyer to work on contingency since he is broke.

    It's even worse in the case of a newspaper or media outlet, since they can both insure against libel and will often be heard by a sympathetic judge, if it even makes it to trial. This creates a massive asymmetry, where defendants basically risk higher insurance premiums (and the occasional settlement) and a small-time plaintiff, often risks their livelihood and their family's quality of life for the foreseeable future

    In a world of crowd-funding, conservatives could be empowering these plaintiffs and coordinating them for maximum damage. But other than cases like Hogan v. Gawker or egregious cases like Oberlin, conservatives let the Left operate with impunity.

    The problem in organizing the crowd-funding is that the simplest ways using online resources like GoFundMe are not available to right wing causes. These sites are run by SJWs who screen the causes for political conformity and in the have past have shut down unacceptable crowd funding efforts and even confiscated the funds donated up to that point. Credit card companies will also close the payee accounts to stop donations being made by credit card. Any effort to crowd-fund Darren Wilson will be closed down within the first day.
    A crowd funding operation would have to operate on cash and check donation mailed which makes it harder to publicize the cause and collect money.

    • Replies: @Hopscotch
    See Audacious Epigone's recent post, "Free America Lawfare Center."

    An enterprising lawyer could pay a few thousand bucks to set up a website, with basic payment ability, in a week. The Lawyer representing the Covington kids has already done this, where you can pay a monthly subscription of $17.76.

    Realistically, for controversial cases like Darren Wilson's, there needs to be an intermediary network of non-profits. At the top of the funnel, you have a mainstream, conservative non-profit that takes funds from consumers, which then channels the funds into another non-profit via money transfer, so payment processors cannot stop it. The Left does this all the time, with Soros' network and various Jewish non-profits.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dT9wCSc0Po
  100. @Mr McKenna
    The chart further down the page, which tracks the composite poll results over time, is pretty informative. Warren's on a tear, and Kamala has lost her 'righteous debate' bump.

    I'm still surprised at how well Biden is doing. Can't explain it really.

    Apart from Biden, the others are shills.
    Sanders is only in it for the money, Harris probably VP, Warren to the SC or A-G, and the rest are doing it for the name recognition.

  101. Harvard Law is on the case and somewhere Perry Mason sobs…

  102. @guest
    At least in the movie Shawshank Redemption the D.A. emphasizes the fact that Andy Dufresne (allegedly) reloaded in the middle of shooting his wife and her lover (in flagrante delicto) in order to demonstrate that the crime was deliberate instead of done in a fit of passion.

    Otherwise, there's really no difference. Shoot to kill is shoot to kill.

    IIRC Racehorse Haynes said once he’d hve gotten even more of his clients off if they hadn’t stopped to reload.

  103. @Lot
    https://saraacarter.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/ElizabethWarren-2019-02-06-10.10.24.png

    https://pix-media.s3.amazonaws.com/blog/808/ScreenShot2014-09-09at11.45.37AM.png

    Elizabeth Ann Heming Warren AKA Little White Dove

  104. @Anon
    Judging from the numbers, Warren's debate performance hurt her quite a bit. She's gone from the teens to 8%. Democratic women, who ought to be her natural backers, don't care for her that much or she'd be at 50% instead of at 8% in the latest poll. Harris is as weak as ever at 6%. Harris' inability to do better indicates that there's a large, hard core of Democrats who simply hate her. It look a lot like voters are really turned off by the fact that Warren used her fake Indian claim to get ahead, and that Harris slept with an elderly Willie Brown to advance her career.

    Most Democratic voters don't trust either of those women, and that includes the majority of female Democratic voters. If you assume Dem women are 50% of the Dem vote, and you add Harris and Warren's percents together, that's just 14%. 36% of the remaining Democratic vote total is female, and they're refusing to back either Warren or Harris. Neither of them has the support that Hillary had.

    Biden’s numbers reflect his popularity with Black voters as Obama’s VP.

    Therefore to beat Biden a candidate must Out-Black him and reduce his appeal by making him seem a hidden klansman or Obama an uncle Tom.

    Expect Harris to make that play. Proposing stuff to personally humiliate every White dude in front of Black people.

    Wild card if Oprah enters the race she’s President. Every Black and Hispanic votes for her as well as every White woman.

    Trump after throwing his supporters under the bus cannot win.

  105. Michael Brown’s body lies a moulderin’ in the grave,
    Michael Brown’s body lies a moulderin’ in the grave,
    Michael Brown’s body lies a moulderin’ in the grave,
    His soul goes marching on………………………………….

    • Replies: @guest
    Yes. Crush the serpent with your heel and all that.
    , @Prester John
    De good dey dahs yung.
  106. @Bubba
    And Trump is crapping on the Basket of Deplorables that elected him. If just 1% of Deplorables in Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, & Pennsylvania don't show up in 2020, then Trump will lose. He needs to stop listening to Javanka.

    Agree.

  107. @anon
    Why are they all focusing on how many times Brown was shot?

    I guess the focus groups tend to pick up on that part, and/or they're all following the same script. But I don't quite get it. Would they feel better if Brown had only been shot five times? Four? Less?

    ...Thinking about it, I recall the late great Patrice O'Neal, on the Opie and Anthony show, talking about some then-recent police shooting, and Patrice - who is black - seemed very upset that the officers had shot that year's Michael Brown some forty-odd times. (Three or four officers more or less emptying their guns into a car that was driving at them, as I recall.) I think he felt that the volume of bullets, being excessive, indicated that the violence was unnecessary, and therefore that the officers were just cruel and sadistic. ("Stark raving beasts," as the LAPD's Dudley Smith once said in a similar situation.)

    So perhaps that's how "shot six times" reads to the public: He only needed to shoot him once, but he shot him six times! He's a psychopath!

    Of course, commenters here know that the police are trained to shoot at a deadly threat non-stop until it ceases to be a deadly threat. Nobody wants to be the jackass who shoots an assailant once and then gets stabbed to death by him anyway. Imagine how silly you'd feel.

    “So perhaps that’s how “shot six times” reads to the public: He only needed to shoot him once, but he shot him six times! He’s a psychopath!”

    There’s also an inverse analysis. He was a BIG boy! Multiple bullets were required to take his ass down. There are plenty of police reports on how PCP perpetrators kept charging even after being shot 3-4 times.

    I remember Wilson, explaining that Brown was tossing him around like Hulk Hogan.

  108. @Louis Renault
    Nice sophistry with the "reigniting" issues not being Senators Warren and Booker but the police department. Obama directed that DOJ investigate the matter. They didn't charge him. To quote Mueller, "they didn't exhonorate him". If only the DOJ office of exoneration had been around five years ago.

    It is not sophistry, it’s cost benefit analysis. In light of everything, this would not be a case worth bringing. Officer Wilson should take solace that he avoided a criminal trial and is a free man. I agree that Officer Wilson was not exonerated, that’s why you should avoid litigating the issue where he likely would have to testify. Once you go to trial, you never truly know what might happen, especially with a St. Louis jury. There is a possibility that his testimony could open Officer Wilson up to criminal prosecution. It is simply not worth it. The City of Ferguson paid the Brown family an undisclosed sum for Mike Brown’s death. Neither the City of Ferguson nor Officer Wilson wants to disclose the nature of that settlement.

    This is not about moral righteousness, it is about legal strategy.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    Warren would likely have a dream team of Harvard lawyers defending her pro bono. If she got the notion to defend herself and have a fool for a client, there'd be an army of such people trying hard to dissuade her.
    , @Ozymandias
    "Once you go to trial, you never truly know what might happen, especially with a St. Louis jury."

    If Darren Wilson sues Elizabeth Warren the trial will be in St Louis? Somehow I'm beginning to doubt your legal expertise.
    , @Alfa158
    You’re right that it is about legal strategy, but nothing to do with a St. Louis jury. Wilson wouldn’t be filing the lawsuit in St. Louis, it would be wherever he is presently residing. The strategic problems would be:
    1. Keeping the lawsuit from being dismissed outright by a judge who sides with Warren. See Sandmann lawsuit against The Washington Post.
    2. Warren having free and unlimited access to the most cunning legal resources.
    3. Wilson having no money or any way of raising it.
    4. Judge siding with Warren getting the trial moved to whichever jurisdiction her defense team thinks would be most advantageous.
    5. Mass media rooting for Warren.
    6. Legal system under the control of scum who hate people like Wilson.

    No amount of voting, or talking, or litigating, or legislating is going to save us from the inevitable war that is coming.
  109. @Lot
    https://saraacarter.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/ElizabethWarren-2019-02-06-10.10.24.png

    https://pix-media.s3.amazonaws.com/blog/808/ScreenShot2014-09-09at11.45.37AM.png

    Is there a url link for this Elizabeth Warren registration card with her race shown as American Indian and her signature at the bottom? It would be most useful to have a url link when commenting on the internet – so many people firmly deny that this exists.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Story broke by the WaPo!

    Hate linking to them, so this is a summary with pics:

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/02/uh-oh-elizabeth-warren-registered-with-texas-state-bar-as-american-indian/
  110. @JerseyJeffersonian
    Where is Senator Preston Brooks when you really need him?

    Senator Preston Brooks. Cane and able.

  111. @216
    Nationalize Uber

    https://twitter.com/meenaharris/status/1159876574247866368

    Founder & CEO of Phenomenal: http://instagram.com/phenomenal • Head of Strategy & Leadership at Uber • Mom, Lawyer, etc!
     

    That is Kamala Harris’ niece. Uber gave her a no-show job to avoid being nationalized.

    And you can bet, if Kamala is nominated in 2020, Uber will send many, many reminders to their drivers to vote, particularly in swing states.

    • Replies: @Bubba
    Thanks for that info. No wonder Uber hired her since they were going through
    their scandals.

    It's always good to use family connections and affirmative action to become a Harvard trained lawyer then parlay it into a highly paid, no-show job.

    I mean, the poor girl, had she made it on her own she'd just be a bit player on some reality-TV show.
    , @Autochthon
    She writes "mom" to describe herself, but not "wife" – odd, really, since the one is a necessary condition for the other (except for whores with bastards).

    Say, what are the odds Willie Brown is her child's baby-daddy?
  112. @Alfa158
    The problem in organizing the crowd-funding is that the simplest ways using online resources like GoFundMe are not available to right wing causes. These sites are run by SJWs who screen the causes for political conformity and in the have past have shut down unacceptable crowd funding efforts and even confiscated the funds donated up to that point. Credit card companies will also close the payee accounts to stop donations being made by credit card. Any effort to crowd-fund Darren Wilson will be closed down within the first day.
    A crowd funding operation would have to operate on cash and check donation mailed which makes it harder to publicize the cause and collect money.

    See Audacious Epigone’s recent post, “Free America Lawfare Center.”

    An enterprising lawyer could pay a few thousand bucks to set up a website, with basic payment ability, in a week. The Lawyer representing the Covington kids has already done this, where you can pay a monthly subscription of $17.76.

    Realistically, for controversial cases like Darren Wilson’s, there needs to be an intermediary network of non-profits. At the top of the funnel, you have a mainstream, conservative non-profit that takes funds from consumers, which then channels the funds into another non-profit via money transfer, so payment processors cannot stop it. The Left does this all the time, with Soros’ network and various Jewish non-profits.

  113. @Tiny Duck
    Compare to the el paso shooter killed 20 people and was arrested without incident. talk about white privilege

    People of Color agree with Warren and they are the future

    People of Color is no longer the preferred term. You should switch to People of Specialness – PoS for brevity.

    • Replies: @Realist

    People of Color is no longer the preferred term. You should switch to People of Specialness – PoS for brevity.
     
    I prefer (P)ickers of (C)otton.
  114. Anonymous[319] • Disclaimer says:

    The fact that Fauxahontas can sleep soundly in her over privileged house whilst lying safely in her soft comfy bed with her precious over pampered and over powdered little body is due, in no small part, to the fact that some rather rough around the edges under privileged burly white males work day and night – at the risk of death and injury – in police and prison departments across the USA.

    This explains the absurdity of a 5ft nothing over promoted over privileged female having the shameless gall in presuming to have power over the violence makers and violence takers.
    What would have our rough human ancestors, from year dot to year 1950, made of this absurd, ungrateful shit?

  115. @Hypnotoad666
    According to Merriam-Webster, the common definition of murder is: "to kill (a human being) unlawfully and with premeditated malice."

    So this is what they are accusing Wilson of doing in their tweets to the entire country. This could obviously expose him to violent retribution by BLM or Antifa types.

    Of course, no one charged him and I do believe he was effectively cleared of wrongdoing by an exhaustive investigation. All the candidates know, or should know, these facts.

    As far as I know, there is no "politician defense" that allows you to say: "Hey, I'm a slimy politician, so everyone is on notice that I'm lying whenever my lips are moving. If you take me seriously, that's on you."

    I think Wilson could (and should) sue for liable.

    Warren is liable for libel.

  116. Anonymous[319] • Disclaimer says:

    Michael Brown, apparently, attempted to snatch Officer Brown’s pistol.

    As cops who never survived to tell the tale would say – if they could speak from beyond the grave – this is something a police officer must never but never brook under any circumstances whatsoever, and use any and every possible force to prevent and stop.

  117. Hey Steve! I thought of you out at Fenway last night with your KKKrazy glue thing, heh. Speaking of KKKrazy Glue, ever been to Fenway? Ever wonder how Red Sox fans get away with all the KKK? I mean, Boston is already widely known as ray-ciss. Then they allow the strikeput counters to throw up the Ks. I’ve been waiting years for the SJW types to latch onto the KKK guys as further evidence. But they never do. And that train is usually never late. They must be saving these guys up for some reason. It’s all White guys, too.

  118. @Mr. Anon
    Michael Brown's body lies a moulderin' in the grave,
    Michael Brown's body lies a moulderin' in the grave,
    Michael Brown's body lies a moulderin' in the grave,
    His soul goes marching on........................................

    Yes. Crush the serpent with your heel and all that.

  119. Yes, and the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour was a surprise, and JFK and John Connally were hit by the same bullet after it made three turns.

  120. @Haole
    Wow, they dont give up, I wish righties were such fighters.

    Wow, they dont give up, I wish righties were such fighters.

    You’re right, they don’t give up. They never, ever stop advancing towards a statist society. They will lie, cheat, steal, and kill to achieve their goals. A mix of insanity, indoctrination, and mendaciousness.

    Righties just don’t have the right stuff.

  121. @Hail

    Michael Brown was murdered by a white police officer
     
    Libel, noun
    1. [LAW] a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation. | Synonyms: defamation, defamation of character, character assassination, calumny, misrepresentation; aspersions, denigration, vilification, slander, ...

    ____________________

    Why aren't statements like Warren's here punishable by libel law? I don't get it.

    Why even have libel laws if they can't be applied to this kind of case? She has defames and libeled of Darren Wilson (b.1986; the sad post-script: After being fired from the police force by a CNN-led pitchfork mob, he went into a period of unemployment and eventually surfaced as a minimum-wage-or-so shoe salesman at a chain store).

    Wilson did nothing wrong and was not convicted of 'murdering' Brown. Her libel of Wilson hurts all Whites, but especially White Christian males, a mass blood-libel against over one hundred million people on this continent. And it seems empirically proven, now, to have caused thousands of excess deaths these past five years.

    What is the solution to this kind of cheap, anti-White demagoguery:

    An American ex-CEO and current right-wing think tank leader, Curt Doolittle, proposes making all political statements subject to libel law, a one-fell-swoop way to take back a dramatic amount of ground:


    Yes it is possible to use this methodology to plug holes in our common law, our legislative processes, and our judicial processes. Because the method, by producing a formal logic of the ‘soft (human)’ sciences enables and forces judgements made not by interpretation but by application of that logic.

    The prosecution of lies in the commons is possible because today we successfully suppress fraud in commercial speech, and in the past we used to prosecute scolding, libel, slander, fraud, fraud by omission, fraud by conspiracy, and treason in defense of the commons (King’s Peace).

    We allowed the state and the left to use the hole in ‘free speech’, rather than free truthful speech, to destroy our protections of the informational commons. And we did not repair the holes in the constitution
     

    So "Lock Her Up" -- Warren, that is -- for libel, for incitement to hatred against a specific race (White-European-Christians in the USA) and thus treason. Maybe no need to lock her up, but do convict her of libel.

    Maybe no need to lock her up, but do convict her of libel

    Sigh. Libel isn’t a crime, it’s a civil wrong.

    Furthermore, you would have to prove that saying Michael Brown was murdered without saying who murdered him has damaged the cop. I would say the cop’s life has been ruined already. Also, as other comments have mentioned, there is no way that he wants to testify in open court what happened that day since there is no statute of limitations on murder.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    It might not be a crime, but a person can still be convicted of or found guilty (insert your preferred term here) of slander or libel. I think she also could be charged with incitement to riot or committing a hate crime for stating a blatant lie and continuing to rile people up.
  122. I love the picture on the memorial of Michael Brown wearing his mortarboard. I would be curious if his former teachers have been publicly interviewed about what Michael Brown was like as a student.

    • Replies: @Pericles

    I would be curious if his former teachers have been publicly interviewed about what Michael Brown was like as a student.

     

    Probably the same difficulty as getting Obama's transcripts.
  123. @Bubba
    And Trump is crapping on the Basket of Deplorables that elected him. If just 1% of Deplorables in Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, & Pennsylvania don't show up in 2020, then Trump will lose. He needs to stop listening to Javanka.

    Agree. Saying he wants to increase legal immigration and releasing arrested illegals is not why we put him in office.

    • Replies: @Bubba
    You're correct and I consider myself a member of the Basket of Deplorables who voted for him in 2016. He would be cruising to victory in 2020 had he made a serious attempt to build the wall and stop the endless wave of illegal caravans flooding our southern border. A complete immigration moratorium would have been the best solution.

    He's completely caved to Javanka and too many Deporables will sit out next November.

    Personally I think it is over for the GOP. It was their last chance in 2016 and now illegal immigration is far worse under Trump. Unfortunately this will turn large electoral states (Texas, Florida, et al) permanently blue (Democrat - Insane Party) like California and New York.

  124. @Lot
    http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_missouri_robbery_wy_140815_v4x3_4x3_992.jpg

    The world lost so much that day.

    RIP

    http://media.breitbart.com/media/2017/03/michael-brown-cctv.jpg

    If the GOP was smart (yeah, I know…), they’d buy some spots to challenge these idiots about this. Nice white ladies may not like Trump’s rough-around-the-edges tweets, but they like getting robbed, raped and killed even less.

    Cruz lost at least a point, probably two, by not taking the Beto challenge seriously. Once you get people used to thinking a certain thing happened a certain way (Anita Hill, now half maybe more think she was telling the truth when the facts show otherwise), it’s very hard to dislodge them from that position.

    It also took a lot of damn time for Southerners and Midwesterners to say to themselves, ‘wait a minute. Why am I voting for democrats?’

    Harris may have cost herself by going full ‘murder’ on this. The other ones never had a chance at the nom. Keep in mind hispanic cops shoot black criminals, too, and they won’t be too happy with this.

  125. @Ibound1
    Slander - self defense is not murder.

    Slander – self defense is not murder

    .

    Slander is verbal defamation, libel is written.

  126. anon[219] • Disclaimer says:

    “The problem in organizing the crowd-funding is that the simplest ways using online resources like GoFundMe are not available to right wing causes. These sites are run by SJWs who screen the causes for political conformity and in the have past have shut down unacceptable crowd funding efforts and even confiscated the funds donated up to that point. Credit card companies will also close the payee accounts to stop donations being made by credit card.”

    What exactly stops red states from funding and creating alternatives? China has an advanced tech industry and could easily be contracted if some red state had the will. For example, many Chinese payment processors no longer rely on banks, so goodbye MasterCard and Visa gatekeeping. GoFundMe an issue? Create a state-run alternative and bar third parties from refusing service to it under threat of criminal and civil prosecution. ISP a problem? Nationalize the infrastructure and coordinate with the Chinese to fill in the gaps. Social media a problem? Contract with the Chinese to build an alternative, then cook up an excuse to regulate (read: deplatform) the competition. Internet applications a problem? Use the state to contract with foreign companies to make alternatives.

    YouTube bans you? Create an alternative. I’ve pointed out in the past that YouTube’s immense losses are overblown. They could implement policies that retain ~90% of the functionality of the site at half the annual loss. They don’t so as to discourage competition; the American CIA funds propaganda efforts aimed at Asia and South America on the platform, so it’s a political platform aimed at influencing foreign opinion…they don’t want competitors so they inflate the losses to discourage any. Make your own YouTube then. It can be done.

    Hollywood making hateful movies or won’t film in your state? Do everything in your power to suspend their copyright protection and encourage people to pirate material. Uber CEO tweets against ICE? Pass a bill requiring unionization of her service; put her company out of business and send a message to sympathizers of what could happen to them, too.

    The point that I’m trying to make here is that it can be done with focus and determination. It all depends on how far you’re willing to go. But maybe the stereotype of conservatives being “sit back and grill” types is accurate. In that case, I would be hard pressed to say you don’t deserve some of this. It’s hard to feel sorry for someone who tolerates being abused without fighting back. Decades of libertarian / National Review “conservatism” indoctrination has produced a generation of conservatives who rationalize their impotence. Personally, I like winning.

    • Replies: @Pericles

    It’s hard to feel sorry for someone who tolerates being abused without fighting back.

     

    Real nazis would, as was their custom, take out 100 of the #resistance for every one of theirs. Disappointing, right?

    As to 'why not own your own transatlantic nazi optical cables', well, it takes some time to get there. But I'm sure you're familiar with all the extra problems one can have while trying to start and run alternative services.
    , @Alfa158
    I would love to win as well. The numbers of people with the will to carry out all the ideas you propose just aren’t there. Yet.
    Look at the numbers of people who visit sites like this or the even smaller numbers visiting the even more committed alt-right sites. They are minuscule compared to the other side. The garden variety National Review, Chamber of Commerce, “cuckservatives” who run Red States don’t want to have a messy fight or have mean things said about them.
    The things you describe will happen once the system has deteriorated enough that those 45% of Whites who still believe the MSM and vote Democrat start to suffer. When we have enough power to do the things you suggest it will be when the system has become chaotic and disrupted enough that the political and social system of the US has begun to fragment and re-form into new Balkanized states.
    At present we are still in early days, the first stage of any struggle for liberation, which is raising the consciousness and re-forging the identity of our people. The white pill is that I think I am starting to see the first tectonic shifts happening. More and more with people can let their hair down with each other and someone lets a subversive thought peek out, others will say, “oh gee, I didn’t know you were thinking the same thing I was”.
  127. I accept that, too often for comfort, American cops commit cowardly murders. But why do politicians so often pick such lousy cases to illustrate their complaints when the deceased is black? Are there no persuasive cases of cops murdering black victims?

    • Disagree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Because those are the most useful cases they can find for purposes of public relations. Which should tell you something about what you 'accept'.
    , @J.Ross
    It's the Dalrymple Explanation of Communist Propaganda again. The goal is not to make a point about police brutality (this point is already made in the minds of the choir anyway), it's to dictate reality and humiliate potential critics.
    , @Alden
    No there are not.
  128. @Clifford Brown
    It is not sophistry, it's cost benefit analysis. In light of everything, this would not be a case worth bringing. Officer Wilson should take solace that he avoided a criminal trial and is a free man. I agree that Officer Wilson was not exonerated, that's why you should avoid litigating the issue where he likely would have to testify. Once you go to trial, you never truly know what might happen, especially with a St. Louis jury. There is a possibility that his testimony could open Officer Wilson up to criminal prosecution. It is simply not worth it. The City of Ferguson paid the Brown family an undisclosed sum for Mike Brown's death. Neither the City of Ferguson nor Officer Wilson wants to disclose the nature of that settlement.

    This is not about moral righteousness, it is about legal strategy.

    Warren would likely have a dream team of Harvard lawyers defending her pro bono. If she got the notion to defend herself and have a fool for a client, there’d be an army of such people trying hard to dissuade her.

  129. @Mr McKenna
    She gives the impression of a bot talking.

    That's not deliberate, is it?

    She gives the impression of a bot talking.

    Elizabot?

    (The AI connoisseur would of course prefer just ‘Eliza’.)

  130. @Jim Christian
    She's nuts, right? She read Obama's FBI report on the whole thing? This is the most retarded statement she ever made in her life.

    This is the most retarded statement she ever made in her life.

    I doubt that, this shitlib has been a dumbass all her life.

  131. @Peripatetic Commenter
    There is no other way to say this.

    Warren is lying and pandering to black voters.

    Warren is lying and pandering to black voters.

    Just like all democrat politicians.

  132. @Clifford Brown
    It is not sophistry, it's cost benefit analysis. In light of everything, this would not be a case worth bringing. Officer Wilson should take solace that he avoided a criminal trial and is a free man. I agree that Officer Wilson was not exonerated, that's why you should avoid litigating the issue where he likely would have to testify. Once you go to trial, you never truly know what might happen, especially with a St. Louis jury. There is a possibility that his testimony could open Officer Wilson up to criminal prosecution. It is simply not worth it. The City of Ferguson paid the Brown family an undisclosed sum for Mike Brown's death. Neither the City of Ferguson nor Officer Wilson wants to disclose the nature of that settlement.

    This is not about moral righteousness, it is about legal strategy.

    “Once you go to trial, you never truly know what might happen, especially with a St. Louis jury.”

    If Darren Wilson sues Elizabeth Warren the trial will be in St Louis? Somehow I’m beginning to doubt your legal expertise.

  133. @Lurker
    People of Color is no longer the preferred term. You should switch to People of Specialness - PoS for brevity.

    People of Color is no longer the preferred term. You should switch to People of Specialness – PoS for brevity.

    I prefer (P)ickers of (C)otton.

  134. @ScarletNumber
    I love the picture on the memorial of Michael Brown wearing his mortarboard. I would be curious if his former teachers have been publicly interviewed about what Michael Brown was like as a student.

    I would be curious if his former teachers have been publicly interviewed about what Michael Brown was like as a student.

    Probably the same difficulty as getting Obama’s transcripts.

  135. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    We all need to do the hard work to alert local police groups about these specific lying BlackLiesMatter Lib Dems.

    It’s one issue that always works well for us:

    Rich, Elite Harvard and Yale, now Stanford elites who live in Lib bubbles like Manhattan and now Brooklyn lying about the police and presenting clearly guilty Black criminals as innocent martyrs of racism.

    Just do the work.

  136. @anon
    "The problem in organizing the crowd-funding is that the simplest ways using online resources like GoFundMe are not available to right wing causes. These sites are run by SJWs who screen the causes for political conformity and in the have past have shut down unacceptable crowd funding efforts and even confiscated the funds donated up to that point. Credit card companies will also close the payee accounts to stop donations being made by credit card."

    What exactly stops red states from funding and creating alternatives? China has an advanced tech industry and could easily be contracted if some red state had the will. For example, many Chinese payment processors no longer rely on banks, so goodbye MasterCard and Visa gatekeeping. GoFundMe an issue? Create a state-run alternative and bar third parties from refusing service to it under threat of criminal and civil prosecution. ISP a problem? Nationalize the infrastructure and coordinate with the Chinese to fill in the gaps. Social media a problem? Contract with the Chinese to build an alternative, then cook up an excuse to regulate (read: deplatform) the competition. Internet applications a problem? Use the state to contract with foreign companies to make alternatives.

    YouTube bans you? Create an alternative. I've pointed out in the past that YouTube's immense losses are overblown. They could implement policies that retain ~90% of the functionality of the site at half the annual loss. They don't so as to discourage competition; the American CIA funds propaganda efforts aimed at Asia and South America on the platform, so it's a political platform aimed at influencing foreign opinion...they don't want competitors so they inflate the losses to discourage any. Make your own YouTube then. It can be done.

    Hollywood making hateful movies or won't film in your state? Do everything in your power to suspend their copyright protection and encourage people to pirate material. Uber CEO tweets against ICE? Pass a bill requiring unionization of her service; put her company out of business and send a message to sympathizers of what could happen to them, too.

    The point that I'm trying to make here is that it can be done with focus and determination. It all depends on how far you're willing to go. But maybe the stereotype of conservatives being "sit back and grill" types is accurate. In that case, I would be hard pressed to say you don't deserve some of this. It's hard to feel sorry for someone who tolerates being abused without fighting back. Decades of libertarian / National Review "conservatism" indoctrination has produced a generation of conservatives who rationalize their impotence. Personally, I like winning.

    It’s hard to feel sorry for someone who tolerates being abused without fighting back.

    Real nazis would, as was their custom, take out 100 of the #resistance for every one of theirs. Disappointing, right?

    As to ‘why not own your own transatlantic nazi optical cables’, well, it takes some time to get there. But I’m sure you’re familiar with all the extra problems one can have while trying to start and run alternative services.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Real nazis would, as was their custom, take out 100 of the #resistance for every one of theirs. Disappointing, right?
     
    What ratio do Jews kill at in Israel?
  137. @J.Ross
    Right, but do you imagine she disagrees?

    After someone took the time to explain to her exactly who Michael Brown was, what the incident was, and where exactly Ferguson, MO is, then, well, no; I don’t imagine so.

  138. Michael Brown was shot four times. He got the first wound (in the hand) trying to take officer Wilson’s duty gun away from him. The next two wounds were in the arm-and-deltoid, received as he was charging Ofc. Wilson. The last shot was the head wound which killed him.

    In a sane and well-ordered society, these five people would be run out of public life for lies so brazen and so malevolent.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Michael Brown was shot four times. He got the first wound (in the hand) trying to take officer Wilson’s duty gun away from him.
     
    He was shot in the hand trying to take Wilson's gun??

    Citation please?
    , @res
    According to the DOJ report Brown was hit 6-8 times.
    https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/doj_report_on_shooting_of_michael_brown_1.pdf

    Ballistics analysis indicates that Wilson fired a total of 12 shots, two from the SUV and ten on the roadway. Witness accounts and an audio recording indicate that when Wilson and Brown were on the roadway, Wilson fired three gunshot volleys, pausing in between each one. According to the autopsy results, Wilson shot and hit Brown as few as six or as many as eight times, including the gunshot to Brown’s hand. Brown fell to the ground dead as a result of a gunshot to the apex of his head.
     
    I agree with your final sentence.
    , @Vinteuil

    In a sane and well-ordered society, these five people would be run out of public life for lies so brazen and so malevolent.
     
    Precisely so. Elizabeth Warren & Bernie Sanders seem to enjoy a certain amount of sympathy, around here - but, in the end, they are no more our friends than Kamala Harris or Cory Booker or the absurd Kerstin Gillibrand.
  139. There are a lot of cases when cops have killed unarmed people and claimed that their own lives at risk from the victims. Mistakes are easily made in the heat of the moment, but sometimes cops are trigger happy.

    Even in England.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Jean_Charles_de_Menezes#Motivations

    “Yes, he tried to attack me with a deadly weapon, to whit an automobile, by means of attempting to reverse out of a 7-11 parking lot when I was telling him to stop. It was self defense. Honest.”

    However the Michael Brown case does not appear to be one of these,as the gentle giant, having recently committed a crime of robbery was charging at the cop head down like a bull. I think we can give the cop a pass on this one–given that the cop had no training as a toreador, he had to step right in as a matador.

    What was Warren thinking? Black votes–that is what she was thinking.

    Bad Warren–Warren speak with forked tongue.

  140. @Clifford Brown
    It is not sophistry, it's cost benefit analysis. In light of everything, this would not be a case worth bringing. Officer Wilson should take solace that he avoided a criminal trial and is a free man. I agree that Officer Wilson was not exonerated, that's why you should avoid litigating the issue where he likely would have to testify. Once you go to trial, you never truly know what might happen, especially with a St. Louis jury. There is a possibility that his testimony could open Officer Wilson up to criminal prosecution. It is simply not worth it. The City of Ferguson paid the Brown family an undisclosed sum for Mike Brown's death. Neither the City of Ferguson nor Officer Wilson wants to disclose the nature of that settlement.

    This is not about moral righteousness, it is about legal strategy.

    You’re right that it is about legal strategy, but nothing to do with a St. Louis jury. Wilson wouldn’t be filing the lawsuit in St. Louis, it would be wherever he is presently residing. The strategic problems would be:
    1. Keeping the lawsuit from being dismissed outright by a judge who sides with Warren. See Sandmann lawsuit against The Washington Post.
    2. Warren having free and unlimited access to the most cunning legal resources.
    3. Wilson having no money or any way of raising it.
    4. Judge siding with Warren getting the trial moved to whichever jurisdiction her defense team thinks would be most advantageous.
    5. Mass media rooting for Warren.
    6. Legal system under the control of scum who hate people like Wilson.

    No amount of voting, or talking, or litigating, or legislating is going to save us from the inevitable war that is coming.

    • Agree: Gordo
    • Replies: @Lot
    “Sandmann lawsuit”

    I think young Nick has about a 50% chance of getting his dismissal reversed. It is a close call.
  141. @Tiny Duck
    Compare to the el paso shooter killed 20 people and was arrested without incident. talk about white privilege

    People of Color agree with Warren and they are the future

    Tiny Duck, the “Alan Colmes” of the iSteve commentators. I’m leaning towards the opinion this is a parody account.

    • Replies: @TWS
    He's fake whatever else here is.
    , @Bill Jones
    I've assumed it's parody for a while- about 4 years or so.
  142. Elizabeth Warren is a vile and slanderous baby boomer rodent.

    Elizabeth Warren is now attacking cops for defending themselves against vicious criminals intent on murderous mayhem.

    I used the word “murderous” in a mood evoking manner that is nowhere near as accusatory and specific as that nasty harpy Elizabeth Warren did when she directly accused Darren Wilson of murder.

  143. @anon
    "The problem in organizing the crowd-funding is that the simplest ways using online resources like GoFundMe are not available to right wing causes. These sites are run by SJWs who screen the causes for political conformity and in the have past have shut down unacceptable crowd funding efforts and even confiscated the funds donated up to that point. Credit card companies will also close the payee accounts to stop donations being made by credit card."

    What exactly stops red states from funding and creating alternatives? China has an advanced tech industry and could easily be contracted if some red state had the will. For example, many Chinese payment processors no longer rely on banks, so goodbye MasterCard and Visa gatekeeping. GoFundMe an issue? Create a state-run alternative and bar third parties from refusing service to it under threat of criminal and civil prosecution. ISP a problem? Nationalize the infrastructure and coordinate with the Chinese to fill in the gaps. Social media a problem? Contract with the Chinese to build an alternative, then cook up an excuse to regulate (read: deplatform) the competition. Internet applications a problem? Use the state to contract with foreign companies to make alternatives.

    YouTube bans you? Create an alternative. I've pointed out in the past that YouTube's immense losses are overblown. They could implement policies that retain ~90% of the functionality of the site at half the annual loss. They don't so as to discourage competition; the American CIA funds propaganda efforts aimed at Asia and South America on the platform, so it's a political platform aimed at influencing foreign opinion...they don't want competitors so they inflate the losses to discourage any. Make your own YouTube then. It can be done.

    Hollywood making hateful movies or won't film in your state? Do everything in your power to suspend their copyright protection and encourage people to pirate material. Uber CEO tweets against ICE? Pass a bill requiring unionization of her service; put her company out of business and send a message to sympathizers of what could happen to them, too.

    The point that I'm trying to make here is that it can be done with focus and determination. It all depends on how far you're willing to go. But maybe the stereotype of conservatives being "sit back and grill" types is accurate. In that case, I would be hard pressed to say you don't deserve some of this. It's hard to feel sorry for someone who tolerates being abused without fighting back. Decades of libertarian / National Review "conservatism" indoctrination has produced a generation of conservatives who rationalize their impotence. Personally, I like winning.

    I would love to win as well. The numbers of people with the will to carry out all the ideas you propose just aren’t there. Yet.
    Look at the numbers of people who visit sites like this or the even smaller numbers visiting the even more committed alt-right sites. They are minuscule compared to the other side. The garden variety National Review, Chamber of Commerce, “cuckservatives” who run Red States don’t want to have a messy fight or have mean things said about them.
    The things you describe will happen once the system has deteriorated enough that those 45% of Whites who still believe the MSM and vote Democrat start to suffer. When we have enough power to do the things you suggest it will be when the system has become chaotic and disrupted enough that the political and social system of the US has begun to fragment and re-form into new Balkanized states.
    At present we are still in early days, the first stage of any struggle for liberation, which is raising the consciousness and re-forging the identity of our people. The white pill is that I think I am starting to see the first tectonic shifts happening. More and more with people can let their hair down with each other and someone lets a subversive thought peek out, others will say, “oh gee, I didn’t know you were thinking the same thing I was”.

  144. A commenter identified as 12AX7 at another internet site succinctly and humorously summed up baby boomer harpy turd Elizabeth Warren:

    A little known fact, Pocahontas is originally from Oklahoma. Maybe she was dropped on her head in a tornado.

    She looks like one of those kids in school who would remind the teacher to give the class their homework on a Friday afternoon when the teacher was about to forget. She has the frightening look of a religious fanatic except that she looks, sounds and acts like an atheist.

  145. @Anonymous

    According to Black’s Law Dictionary, murder is defined as the killing of a human being with malice aforethought
     
    Define "malice aforethought".

    Basically, it means that you intended to cause the person’s death. However justification (e.g. self defense) negates the malice aforethought. There’s no doubt that the officer intended to kill the Gentle Giant but since it was justified it’s OK.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Basically, it means that you intended to cause the person’s death.
     
    How does this intentionality differ from premeditation? Is there a difference between planning to kill and doing so in the heat of the moment?
    , @Autochthon
    This explanation is incorrect. If I recall correctly, you are also a lawyer, so you had not ought to be explaining law incorrectly when laymen sincerely request explanations, and thereby spreading misinformation and confusion.

    Malice aforethought is not merely (or "basically") "intend[ing] to cause...death."

    Wilson (or Zimmerman, any number of people who shoot, stab, or even beat to death an attacker who was trying to kill them in the first place) and many others defending themselves, justifiably because of a reasonable fear of death or grievous bodily injury often do indeed intend to cause death. They are not acting with malice aforethought.

    If a man enters his bedroom to discover his wife in flagrante delicto with the mailman and, in a blind rage, attacks and kills them, even he has not acted with "malice aforethought." For this reason he is unlikely to ever be convicted if first-degree murder in any jurisdiction. Malice aforethought requires just what the term itself suggests: premeditation. If the same fellow had discovered the adultery by other means, then decided to avenge himself by, say, laying in wait in the closet then shooting the lovers as they went at it, or if he had poisoned their tea, these acts would demonstrate malice aforethought.

    Traditionally, malice aforethought (or its absence) was a major distinguishing element between murder and manslaughter, and it remains (in some jurisdictions), an element to distinguish among different degrees of murder. However, the term has largely been abandoned in codified statutes addressing unlawful killing in the F.U.S.A., and perhaps your oversimplification of it is meant to acknowledge that and spare readers the nuances – but the discussion here is precisely about those nuances, and we are all big boys here. We can handle a bit of nuclear fission; no need to keep saying stars are "big balls of fire."

    What you describe – mere intent to kill – is simply the mens rea of murder, an essential element of that crime, but nothing to do with the presence or absence of malice aforethought.
  146. The “fact” is that Officer Wilson was not guilty of murder – he acted in self-defense. The “truth” is that Michael Brown, an unarmed black man, was shot 6 times by a white police officer. Joe Biden has already explained it – “truth” is more important than “facts” to Democrats.

    It’s no different for other groups – the “truth” that Bezos is a Jew is more important to some people than the “fact” that he isn’t. Excessive concern with facts is just hairsplitting. Facts are superficial – the truth is much deeper and lies, often hidden, under a layer of facts. The facts merely obscure Bezos’s “Jewish essence” which is much deeper than whether or not he is actually Jewish.

    This is essentially the same thing that Colbert used to make fun of “truthiness” (of course he only made fun of it when Conservatives did it) . When something is truthy it doesn’t have to be factually true – truthiness captures an essence which goes beyond mere facts, such as the “truth” that black people are oppressed in America. If you quibble about the facts of this particular case, you are in effect denying the greater truth, while proclaiming the lie illuminates the truth. This has been well known throughout history – it doesn’t matter whether or not George Washington literally chopped down a cherry tree – it merely served as an illustration of the truth that he was a man of impeccable honesty and integrity.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @95Theses
    Bingo!
  147. @Peripatetic Commenter
    There is no other way to say this.

    Warren is lying and pandering to black voters.

    Warren is lying and pandering to black voters

    Yes. Pretty pathetic that she/they can’t find an actual injustice of recent vintage to flog.

  148. @Tiny Duck
    Compare to the el paso shooter killed 20 people and was arrested without incident. talk about white privilege

    People of Color agree with Warren and they are the future

    Arrested w/out incident? So were (among many others) kneegarow murderers Colin Ferguson, the Carr Brothers (Wichita Massacre) the Richmond Spree killers (groids who brutally killed, among others, a two year old and a four year old white girl) and the Knoxville Horror killers. In fact, if cops killed every criminal groid willy-nilly, then why come, as they would say, so many are alive and filling up the jails?

  149. @Hail
    The raw result of her 23andMe-like test was 0.35% Amerindian subject to a small margin of error.

    Recent 23andMe studies suggest the US White non-Hispanic genepool stands at <0.30% Amerindian as a mean (a big, often-quoted 2014 study found 0.18%, and with a large enough standard deviation that many/most of us clock-in at 0.0% and a few people do indeed have several percent, e.g. the people with one great-grandparent who had significant Red Indian ancestry. Warren, of course, passed herself off as even more Amerind still than that).

    It's safe to say that many tens of millions of White Americans have as much or more Amerindian trace ancestry than Elizabeth Warren.

    The raw result of her 23andMe-like test was 0.35% Amerindian subject to a small margin of error.

    Recent 23andMe studies suggest the US White non-Hispanic genepool stands at <0.30% Amerindian as a mean (a big, often-quoted 2014 study found 0.18%, and with a large enough standard deviation that many/most of us clock-in at 0.0% and a few people do indeed have several percent, e.g. the people with one great-grandparent who had significant Red Indian ancestry. Warren, of course, passed herself off as even more Amerind still than that).

    It's safe to say that many tens of millions of White Americans have as much or more Amerindian trace ancestry than Elizabeth Warren.

    If a European person, from Europe I mean, moved to the USA and did a 23-and-me I’ll bet they would be assigned a small proportion of Amerind DNA in their results, if they took the test from home they would be assigned a little SSA or West Asia.

    The margin of error is used for political purposes?

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    I agree. Plus, I wouldn't be surprised if they often throw in a little African ancestry, just to mess with whites.
  150. @Anonymous
    Say what you will, she has PROVED that she has Amerindian ancestry.

    she has PROVED that she has Amerindian ancestry

    In a way, no; she proved she has so little that any unique gene expression from that quarter is likely nil.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    In a way, no; she proved she has so little that any unique gene expression from that quarter is likely nil.
     
    "unique gene expression" (whatever that means in practice) is not the test.
  151. @Peter Johnson
    Is there a url link for this Elizabeth Warren registration card with her race shown as American Indian and her signature at the bottom? It would be most useful to have a url link when commenting on the internet - so many people firmly deny that this exists.

    Story broke by the WaPo!

    Hate linking to them, so this is a summary with pics:

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/02/uh-oh-elizabeth-warren-registered-with-texas-state-bar-as-american-indian/

  152. @Hail

    Michael Brown was murdered by a white police officer
     
    Libel, noun
    1. [LAW] a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation. | Synonyms: defamation, defamation of character, character assassination, calumny, misrepresentation; aspersions, denigration, vilification, slander, ...

    ____________________

    Why aren't statements like Warren's here punishable by libel law? I don't get it.

    Why even have libel laws if they can't be applied to this kind of case? She has defames and libeled of Darren Wilson (b.1986; the sad post-script: After being fired from the police force by a CNN-led pitchfork mob, he went into a period of unemployment and eventually surfaced as a minimum-wage-or-so shoe salesman at a chain store).

    Wilson did nothing wrong and was not convicted of 'murdering' Brown. Her libel of Wilson hurts all Whites, but especially White Christian males, a mass blood-libel against over one hundred million people on this continent. And it seems empirically proven, now, to have caused thousands of excess deaths these past five years.

    What is the solution to this kind of cheap, anti-White demagoguery:

    An American ex-CEO and current right-wing think tank leader, Curt Doolittle, proposes making all political statements subject to libel law, a one-fell-swoop way to take back a dramatic amount of ground:


    Yes it is possible to use this methodology to plug holes in our common law, our legislative processes, and our judicial processes. Because the method, by producing a formal logic of the ‘soft (human)’ sciences enables and forces judgements made not by interpretation but by application of that logic.

    The prosecution of lies in the commons is possible because today we successfully suppress fraud in commercial speech, and in the past we used to prosecute scolding, libel, slander, fraud, fraud by omission, fraud by conspiracy, and treason in defense of the commons (King’s Peace).

    We allowed the state and the left to use the hole in ‘free speech’, rather than free truthful speech, to destroy our protections of the informational commons. And we did not repair the holes in the constitution
     

    So "Lock Her Up" -- Warren, that is -- for libel, for incitement to hatred against a specific race (White-European-Christians in the USA) and thus treason. Maybe no need to lock her up, but do convict her of libel.

    [more enforcement of libel laws…]

    We give a lot of immunity to public officials. In a way, this clumsy bad idea of Black Lives Matter is a push back to police immunity, and it hasn’t gone well.

  153. Brown’s juvenile record was never made public, was it? I’m guessing he had quite a record.

  154. @Art Deco
    Michael Brown was shot four times. He got the first wound (in the hand) trying to take officer Wilson's duty gun away from him. The next two wounds were in the arm-and-deltoid, received as he was charging Ofc. Wilson. The last shot was the head wound which killed him.


    In a sane and well-ordered society, these five people would be run out of public life for lies so brazen and so malevolent.

    Michael Brown was shot four times. He got the first wound (in the hand) trying to take officer Wilson’s duty gun away from him.

    He was shot in the hand trying to take Wilson’s gun??

    Citation please?

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    Get a handle like most everyone else please.
    , @95Theses
    The citation was already mentioned above and linked to the official Obama–Holder DOJ memorandum entitled,

    Department of Justice Report Regarding the Criminal Investigation into the Shooting Death of Michael Brown by Ferguson, Missouri Police Officer Darren Wilson

    Date March 04, 2015

    See page 18.

    https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/doj_report_on_shooting_of_michael_brown_1.pdf

    , @Alden
    So you’re too lazy to type into search engines and spend a little time checking out several websites.
    , @J.Ross
    Why so incredulous? When you reach for a gun, your hand is presumably closer to (and at least in line with) that gun. I am very interested in counterexamples. It was the first shot, so it surely wasn't aimed.
  155. @Anonymous
    Say what you will, she has PROVED that she has Amerindian ancestry.

    The results suggested an Amerindian ancestor six to ten generations ago. How many of your thousand-plus great-great-great-great-grandparents can you name, let alone share biographical information on? The whole foundation of her identity as a Red Woman rests on her ‘family lore,’ yet we have no way of knowing if that squaw DNA is even on the branch she asserts it is. Other members of the same family say they haven’t heard the stories (including those about the opposition to ‘interracial marriage’ faced by her ivory-white grandparents.) If you look through enough haystacks, sometimes you’ll find a needle. Hell, sometimes it’s not even the one you were looking for.

    If I tell my grandkids that Yakub the Scientist grew them out of a test tube in his subterranean Afrikan lab, and a 23andme twenty years later suggests 0.097% African DNA, that doesn’t make the narrative any less absurd.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    The results suggested an Amerindian ancestor six to ten generations ago.
     
    Pocohontas is estimated to have 100,000 descendants today. They are all qualified to call themselves aboriginals.
  156. @Jack D
    Basically, it means that you intended to cause the person's death. However justification (e.g. self defense) negates the malice aforethought. There's no doubt that the officer intended to kill the Gentle Giant but since it was justified it's OK.

    Basically, it means that you intended to cause the person’s death.

    How does this intentionality differ from premeditation? Is there a difference between planning to kill and doing so in the heat of the moment?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    There is a significant difference. Malice aforethought is not merely intent, as JackD (mis)explains. See my reply to his mistake.
  157. OT

    TDS still rampaging, no cure in sight.

    Of course the Epstein “suicide” is an acceleration event and will be seen that way by people already convinced there is no political solution to the corrupt American/ZOG Establishment and ‘Deep State’ — it should be seen the same way by everyone else too, nudging them in that same direction.

    • Replies: @eah
    OT

    Speaking of "acceleration": from gay "marriage" being something reasonable people could disagree about, to this in just a few short years -- have a good look.

    https://youtu.be/NIlq85dL0C4
  158. @Hopscotch
    That is Kamala Harris' niece. Uber gave her a no-show job to avoid being nationalized.

    And you can bet, if Kamala is nominated in 2020, Uber will send many, many reminders to their drivers to vote, particularly in swing states.

    Thanks for that info. No wonder Uber hired her since they were going through
    their scandals.

    It’s always good to use family connections and affirmative action to become a Harvard trained lawyer then parlay it into a highly paid, no-show job.

    I mean, the poor girl, had she made it on her own she’d just be a bit player on some reality-TV show.

  159. @Alfa158
    You’re right that it is about legal strategy, but nothing to do with a St. Louis jury. Wilson wouldn’t be filing the lawsuit in St. Louis, it would be wherever he is presently residing. The strategic problems would be:
    1. Keeping the lawsuit from being dismissed outright by a judge who sides with Warren. See Sandmann lawsuit against The Washington Post.
    2. Warren having free and unlimited access to the most cunning legal resources.
    3. Wilson having no money or any way of raising it.
    4. Judge siding with Warren getting the trial moved to whichever jurisdiction her defense team thinks would be most advantageous.
    5. Mass media rooting for Warren.
    6. Legal system under the control of scum who hate people like Wilson.

    No amount of voting, or talking, or litigating, or legislating is going to save us from the inevitable war that is coming.

    “Sandmann lawsuit”

    I think young Nick has about a 50% chance of getting his dismissal reversed. It is a close call.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    I think young Nick has about a 50% chance of getting his dismissal reversed. It is a close call.
     
    Would you mind offering some analysis?
  160. @Anonymous
    Say what you will, she has PROVED that she has Amerindian ancestry.

    No, 1/1024 South American “Amerind” is probably just an erroneous extrapolation of a DNA strand…It doesn’t prove anything…

  161. @Hail
    Meena Harris. Strange-looking woman --

    -- almost certain to be unpleasant, for those who have to deal with her.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1111706269541294081/iTZC1djh_400x400.png


    With all the talk of red flags these days, I'd suggest a grown woman wearing a t-shirt on which is emblazoned the words

    Phenomenal Woman!
     
    is a personality red flag.

    Does Harvard Law School really give that t-shirt along with their degree to graduating women at their commencement ceremony? Or just the affirmative action graduates that identify as a woman?

    Times have really changed…

  162. Booker: “Until Black people are no longer disproportionately killed by police, we should lift the voices of those like the protestors who stand up for justice—and speak out ourselves for a more fair criminal justice system that holds police accountable. To be silent is to be complicit.”

    Blacks are not disproportionately killed by police when you control for levels of impulsive violence. They commit over half of murders, over a third of violent crime and are 30% of those killed by police. What about that indicates bias?

  163. Just what I personally look for in a presidential candidate: Type A sociopaths who virtue signal and race-bait at the drop of a hat, and seem to sincerely believe that these are components of leadership.

  164. @Flip
    Agree. Saying he wants to increase legal immigration and releasing arrested illegals is not why we put him in office.

    You’re correct and I consider myself a member of the Basket of Deplorables who voted for him in 2016. He would be cruising to victory in 2020 had he made a serious attempt to build the wall and stop the endless wave of illegal caravans flooding our southern border. A complete immigration moratorium would have been the best solution.

    He’s completely caved to Javanka and too many Deporables will sit out next November.

    Personally I think it is over for the GOP. It was their last chance in 2016 and now illegal immigration is far worse under Trump. Unfortunately this will turn large electoral states (Texas, Florida, et al) permanently blue (Democrat – Insane Party) like California and New York.

    • Replies: @Anon
    I think Trump'll cruise to victory anyway. One, his opponents keep imploding because of brain-dead rhetoric and stupidity, and two, there's a bunch of moderates out there who voted for Hillary in 2016, who wanted business as usual, and they're getting rattled by the solid wall of 'destroy whitey' leftist pandering that's been spewed out for the last two years. These people are likely to shift to Trump. They aren't going to vote for a violent overthrow of themselves, white society, and white culture.

    If you look at the poll that was recently taken and add up the numbers of the top 10 Democratic candidates, they come up to 72%, not 100%. 28% of the Democrats surveyed didn't like ANY of the Democratic candidates. That 28% is likely to either not vote, vote 3rd party, or vote for Trump. This isn't a crowd coming together behind Obama in 2008. Over a quarter of Democratic supporters today can't stand any of their own candidates. The best that any of those candidates can do is Biden at 29%. If Biden gets the nomination, and 71% of Democrats right now don't think much of him, the Democrats are going to implode at the polls in 2020. Like I said, they either won't vote, or they'll vote third party, or they'll vote for Trump as the less crazy option.
  165. @Lot
    “Sandmann lawsuit”

    I think young Nick has about a 50% chance of getting his dismissal reversed. It is a close call.

    I think young Nick has about a 50% chance of getting his dismissal reversed. It is a close call.

    Would you mind offering some analysis?

  166. @MikeatMikedotMike
    I seriously doubt she posts her own tweets or is even aware that she has a twitter account.

    I imagine her account is run by some 25 year old chick with a grievance studies degree, wearing a burka and lots of makeup.

    Could be. On the other hand she is clearly not the only one who is chanting the usual and boring denunciations in a game of virtue signalling. I sometimes wonder whether or not in their heart of hearts these people really believe half of this stuff. Money talks–and these people, like all politicians, will say anything so they can line their pockets.

  167. @Mr. Anon
    Michael Brown's body lies a moulderin' in the grave,
    Michael Brown's body lies a moulderin' in the grave,
    Michael Brown's body lies a moulderin' in the grave,
    His soul goes marching on........................................

    De good dey dahs yung.

  168. @Liza

    5 years ago Michael Brown was murdered by a white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri.
     
    Yes. Indeed he was.

    12 years ago, in January of 2007, in Knoxville, Chris Newsom and his girlfriend Channon Christian were hijacked from their vehicle, tortured, raped, battered and brutalized in every imaginable way by 5 blacks. Channon got the worst of it, being sexually assaulted every way you could think of, had bleach poured down her throat, then a plastic bag placed over her head and she was stuffed into a garbage can and left there to slowly suffocate. "Prior to this, they allegedly tried to strangle her, but she regained consciousness when they stopped putting pressure around her neck." By the way, by all reports, they were nice kids, not trouble makers in any way.

    Now, Ms Warren, have you even heard of these crimes? If you did, that would be a miracle, because they received almost no coverage in the mainstream media except locally.

    So, if you please, piss off.

    A pity this incident didn’t take place in mirror image. It would’ve been front and center among the MSM types.

  169. @Anonymous

    Michael Brown was shot four times. He got the first wound (in the hand) trying to take officer Wilson’s duty gun away from him.
     
    He was shot in the hand trying to take Wilson's gun??

    Citation please?

    Get a handle like most everyone else please.

  170. @Hopscotch
    When it comes to organizing legal efforts, the Left makes conservatives look like fools. The Left has no shortage of legal funds to handle this scenario, where if Anne Coulter or Rush Limbaugh said the equivalent, they would be hit with a lawsuit the next day.

    Even if the police officer wished to sue, it is guaranteed:
    - his name will be dragged back through the mud, worsening (already meager) employment prospects.
    - he will need to take time off work to sue, and presumably, find a lawyer to work on contingency since he is broke.

    It's even worse in the case of a newspaper or media outlet, since they can both insure against libel and will often be heard by a sympathetic judge, if it even makes it to trial. This creates a massive asymmetry, where defendants basically risk higher insurance premiums (and the occasional settlement) and a small-time plaintiff, often risks their livelihood and their family's quality of life for the foreseeable future

    In a world of crowd-funding, conservatives could be empowering these plaintiffs and coordinating them for maximum damage. But other than cases like Hogan v. Gawker or egregious cases like Oberlin, conservatives let the Left operate with impunity.

    But it’s a legal fact. Wilson is NOT a murderer. This was established in a court of law after much scrutiny.

    It seems like a simple case to me. It should be anyway.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    This was established in a court of law after much scrutiny.
     
    No it wasn't.
  171. @Jack D
    Basically, it means that you intended to cause the person's death. However justification (e.g. self defense) negates the malice aforethought. There's no doubt that the officer intended to kill the Gentle Giant but since it was justified it's OK.

    This explanation is incorrect. If I recall correctly, you are also a lawyer, so you had not ought to be explaining law incorrectly when laymen sincerely request explanations, and thereby spreading misinformation and confusion.

    Malice aforethought is not merely (or “basically”) “intend[ing] to cause…death.”

    Wilson (or Zimmerman, any number of people who shoot, stab, or even beat to death an attacker who was trying to kill them in the first place) and many others defending themselves, justifiably because of a reasonable fear of death or grievous bodily injury often do indeed intend to cause death. They are not acting with malice aforethought.

    If a man enters his bedroom to discover his wife in flagrante delicto with the mailman and, in a blind rage, attacks and kills them, even he has not acted with “malice aforethought.” For this reason he is unlikely to ever be convicted if first-degree murder in any jurisdiction. Malice aforethought requires just what the term itself suggests: premeditation. If the same fellow had discovered the adultery by other means, then decided to avenge himself by, say, laying in wait in the closet then shooting the lovers as they went at it, or if he had poisoned their tea, these acts would demonstrate malice aforethought.

    Traditionally, malice aforethought (or its absence) was a major distinguishing element between murder and manslaughter, and it remains (in some jurisdictions), an element to distinguish among different degrees of murder. However, the term has largely been abandoned in codified statutes addressing unlawful killing in the F.U.S.A., and perhaps your oversimplification of it is meant to acknowledge that and spare readers the nuances – but the discussion here is precisely about those nuances, and we are all big boys here. We can handle a bit of nuclear fission; no need to keep saying stars are “big balls of fire.”

    What you describe – mere intent to kill – is simply the mens rea of murder, an essential element of that crime, but nothing to do with the presence or absence of malice aforethought.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Malice aforethought requires just what the term itself suggests: premeditation.
     
    How would this requirement apply, for example, to the vehicular homicide in Charlottesville?

    What if what happened was that Fields suddenly became angry at the rioters blocking his right of way and deliberately drove into them?

    Alternatively, what if what happened was that Fields drove forward into them not caring whether or not they got out of the way, not caring whether he hit them or not?
    , @Jack D
    There are some here who are capable of understanding all of the nuances of malice aforethought (in any case an archaic concept) and others who are not. I was trying to dash off a quick 3 line answer and based upon what I judged to be the sophistication of the questioner and not write an answer for a crim law exam. Honestly, the answer to almost any question today is "ask google" so 3 lines is more than he deserved. I don't disagree with anything that you wrote. What I wrote was not so much "wrong" as incomplete, but I was not attempting a comprehensive treatment.
  172. @Jack D
    The "fact" is that Officer Wilson was not guilty of murder - he acted in self-defense. The "truth" is that Michael Brown, an unarmed black man, was shot 6 times by a white police officer. Joe Biden has already explained it - "truth" is more important than "facts" to Democrats.

    It's no different for other groups - the "truth" that Bezos is a Jew is more important to some people than the "fact" that he isn't. Excessive concern with facts is just hairsplitting. Facts are superficial - the truth is much deeper and lies, often hidden, under a layer of facts. The facts merely obscure Bezos's "Jewish essence" which is much deeper than whether or not he is actually Jewish.

    This is essentially the same thing that Colbert used to make fun of "truthiness" (of course he only made fun of it when Conservatives did it) . When something is truthy it doesn't have to be factually true - truthiness captures an essence which goes beyond mere facts, such as the "truth" that black people are oppressed in America. If you quibble about the facts of this particular case, you are in effect denying the greater truth, while proclaiming the lie illuminates the truth. This has been well known throughout history - it doesn't matter whether or not George Washington literally chopped down a cherry tree - it merely served as an illustration of the truth that he was a man of impeccable honesty and integrity.

    Bingo!

  173. Anon[313] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bubba
    You're correct and I consider myself a member of the Basket of Deplorables who voted for him in 2016. He would be cruising to victory in 2020 had he made a serious attempt to build the wall and stop the endless wave of illegal caravans flooding our southern border. A complete immigration moratorium would have been the best solution.

    He's completely caved to Javanka and too many Deporables will sit out next November.

    Personally I think it is over for the GOP. It was their last chance in 2016 and now illegal immigration is far worse under Trump. Unfortunately this will turn large electoral states (Texas, Florida, et al) permanently blue (Democrat - Insane Party) like California and New York.

    I think Trump’ll cruise to victory anyway. One, his opponents keep imploding because of brain-dead rhetoric and stupidity, and two, there’s a bunch of moderates out there who voted for Hillary in 2016, who wanted business as usual, and they’re getting rattled by the solid wall of ‘destroy whitey’ leftist pandering that’s been spewed out for the last two years. These people are likely to shift to Trump. They aren’t going to vote for a violent overthrow of themselves, white society, and white culture.

    If you look at the poll that was recently taken and add up the numbers of the top 10 Democratic candidates, they come up to 72%, not 100%. 28% of the Democrats surveyed didn’t like ANY of the Democratic candidates. That 28% is likely to either not vote, vote 3rd party, or vote for Trump. This isn’t a crowd coming together behind Obama in 2008. Over a quarter of Democratic supporters today can’t stand any of their own candidates. The best that any of those candidates can do is Biden at 29%. If Biden gets the nomination, and 71% of Democrats right now don’t think much of him, the Democrats are going to implode at the polls in 2020. Like I said, they either won’t vote, or they’ll vote third party, or they’ll vote for Trump as the less crazy option.

    • Replies: @Bubba

    This isn’t a crowd coming together behind Obama in 2008.
     
    You're absolutely 100% right on that and I didn't give it much of a thought until you pointed it out. And I didn't realize so many Democrats were disillusioned and may shift to Trump. If true, then it would be a political earthquake bigger than Trump's win in 2016 and far more interesting to analyze.

    It's unfortunate that Trump's only option to win will be by default since most of his opponents are insane. He's been a complete failure on everything that ignited his enthusiastic crowds during the campaign - immigration, the wall, government reform and now he is backtracking on gun rights. He posts silly, obnoxious tweets and then does whatever the incompetent, social-climbing duo Javanka tell him. Sometimes I wonder if Trump should just run as a moderate Democrat.

    That was an excellent analysis and a pleasure to read. Thank you for your intelligent post.

  174. Until Black people are no longer disproportionately killed by police, we should lift the voices of those like the protestors who stand up for justice – and speak out ourselves for a more fair criminal justice system that holds police accountable. To be silent is to be complicit.

    How about,

    Until Black people no longer disproportionately commit murder, rape, theft, aggravated assault; or resist arrest, speed [Driving While Black], Flash Rob convenience stores [including Victoria’s Secret and the like]; or walk down the middle of the street for the sheer sake of defying authority, we should lift the voices of those regular law-abiding White (and Asian) Americans who stand up for justice – and speak out ourselves for a more fair criminal justice system that holds Blacks accountable without deference to the Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations. To be silent is to be complicit.

    There. That looks much better.

  175. @eah
    OT

    TDS still rampaging, no cure in sight.

    Of course the Epstein "suicide" is an acceleration event and will be seen that way by people already convinced there is no political solution to the corrupt American/ZOG Establishment and 'Deep State' -- it should be seen the same way by everyone else too, nudging them in that same direction.

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1160027496034820096

    OT

    Speaking of “acceleration”: from gay “marriage” being something reasonable people could disagree about, to this in just a few short years — have a good look.

  176. @Hopscotch
    That is Kamala Harris' niece. Uber gave her a no-show job to avoid being nationalized.

    And you can bet, if Kamala is nominated in 2020, Uber will send many, many reminders to their drivers to vote, particularly in swing states.

    She writes “mom” to describe herself, but not “wife” – odd, really, since the one is a necessary condition for the other (except for whores with bastards).

    Say, what are the odds Willie Brown is her child’s baby-daddy?

    • LOL: Bubba
  177. @Anonymous

    Michael Brown was shot four times. He got the first wound (in the hand) trying to take officer Wilson’s duty gun away from him.
     
    He was shot in the hand trying to take Wilson's gun??

    Citation please?

    The citation was already mentioned above and linked to the official Obama–Holder DOJ memorandum entitled,

    Department of Justice Report Regarding the Criminal Investigation into the Shooting Death of Michael Brown by Ferguson, Missouri Police Officer Darren Wilson

    Date March 04, 2015

    See page 18.

    https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/doj_report_on_shooting_of_michael_brown_1.pdf

  178. @Anonymous

    Basically, it means that you intended to cause the person’s death.
     
    How does this intentionality differ from premeditation? Is there a difference between planning to kill and doing so in the heat of the moment?

    There is a significant difference. Malice aforethought is not merely intent, as JackD (mis)explains. See my reply to his mistake.

  179. @Jim Christian
    She's nuts, right? She read Obama's FBI report on the whole thing? This is the most retarded statement she ever made in her life.

    She’s nuts, right?

    Yes.

  180. @Pericles

    It’s hard to feel sorry for someone who tolerates being abused without fighting back.

     

    Real nazis would, as was their custom, take out 100 of the #resistance for every one of theirs. Disappointing, right?

    As to 'why not own your own transatlantic nazi optical cables', well, it takes some time to get there. But I'm sure you're familiar with all the extra problems one can have while trying to start and run alternative services.

    Real nazis would, as was their custom, take out 100 of the #resistance for every one of theirs. Disappointing, right?

    What ratio do Jews kill at in Israel?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Not a hundred to one, not directly anyway unless you're moving back and forth and aggregating different acts. In some of the most heinous examples of selflessly penetrating human shields from a safe distance it would be forty to one. Most cases would be something like two to four to one.
  181. @ScarletNumber

    Maybe no need to lock her up, but do convict her of libel
     
    Sigh. Libel isn't a crime, it's a civil wrong.

    Furthermore, you would have to prove that saying Michael Brown was murdered without saying who murdered him has damaged the cop. I would say the cop's life has been ruined already. Also, as other comments have mentioned, there is no way that he wants to testify in open court what happened that day since there is no statute of limitations on murder.

    It might not be a crime, but a person can still be convicted of or found guilty (insert your preferred term here) of slander or libel. I think she also could be charged with incitement to riot or committing a hate crime for stating a blatant lie and continuing to rile people up.

  182. @bomag

    she has PROVED that she has Amerindian ancestry
     
    In a way, no; she proved she has so little that any unique gene expression from that quarter is likely nil.

    In a way, no; she proved she has so little that any unique gene expression from that quarter is likely nil.

    “unique gene expression” (whatever that means in practice) is not the test.

    • Replies: @Alden
    Anonymous 206 is Wizard of Oz. Ignore.
  183. @Anonymous
    But it’s a legal fact. Wilson is NOT a murderer. This was established in a court of law after much scrutiny.

    It seems like a simple case to me. It should be anyway.

    This was established in a court of law after much scrutiny.

    No it wasn’t.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    There was no petit jury trial and no bench trial. Criminal cases are seldom disposed of that way.

    He wasn't indicted because there was no probable cause. The case was investigated by the local DA, who made no formal recommendation to the grand jury in the case, and Eric Holder's Justice Department, who in their report bitched and moaned about jaywalking tickets because they had no more serious complaint to offer. Two separate autopsies were performed, one by the local coroner and one by and out-of-town pathologist engaged by Michael Brown's family. They were consistent with Wilson's account of the sequence of events. Don't know how you missed it.
  184. @Gordo

    The raw result of her 23andMe-like test was 0.35% Amerindian subject to a small margin of error.

    Recent 23andMe studies suggest the US White non-Hispanic genepool stands at <0.30% Amerindian as a mean (a big, often-quoted 2014 study found 0.18%, and with a large enough standard deviation that many/most of us clock-in at 0.0% and a few people do indeed have several percent, e.g. the people with one great-grandparent who had significant Red Indian ancestry. Warren, of course, passed herself off as even more Amerind still than that).

    It's safe to say that many tens of millions of White Americans have as much or more Amerindian trace ancestry than Elizabeth Warren.
     
    If a European person, from Europe I mean, moved to the USA and did a 23-and-me I'll bet they would be assigned a small proportion of Amerind DNA in their results, if they took the test from home they would be assigned a little SSA or West Asia.

    The margin of error is used for political purposes?

    I agree. Plus, I wouldn’t be surprised if they often throw in a little African ancestry, just to mess with whites.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
  185. @Anonymous

    Michael Brown was shot four times. He got the first wound (in the hand) trying to take officer Wilson’s duty gun away from him.
     
    He was shot in the hand trying to take Wilson's gun??

    Citation please?

    So you’re too lazy to type into search engines and spend a little time checking out several websites.

  186. @Hypnotoad666
    According to Merriam-Webster, the common definition of murder is: "to kill (a human being) unlawfully and with premeditated malice."

    So this is what they are accusing Wilson of doing in their tweets to the entire country. This could obviously expose him to violent retribution by BLM or Antifa types.

    Of course, no one charged him and I do believe he was effectively cleared of wrongdoing by an exhaustive investigation. All the candidates know, or should know, these facts.

    As far as I know, there is no "politician defense" that allows you to say: "Hey, I'm a slimy politician, so everyone is on notice that I'm lying whenever my lips are moving. If you take me seriously, that's on you."

    I think Wilson could (and should) sue for liable.

    But it must be true!
    Warren read it in The Times.

  187. The publicist of Michael Brown’s father is demanding a new investigation into Michael’s death.

  188. Anonymous[206] • Disclaimer says:
    @Autochthon
    This explanation is incorrect. If I recall correctly, you are also a lawyer, so you had not ought to be explaining law incorrectly when laymen sincerely request explanations, and thereby spreading misinformation and confusion.

    Malice aforethought is not merely (or "basically") "intend[ing] to cause...death."

    Wilson (or Zimmerman, any number of people who shoot, stab, or even beat to death an attacker who was trying to kill them in the first place) and many others defending themselves, justifiably because of a reasonable fear of death or grievous bodily injury often do indeed intend to cause death. They are not acting with malice aforethought.

    If a man enters his bedroom to discover his wife in flagrante delicto with the mailman and, in a blind rage, attacks and kills them, even he has not acted with "malice aforethought." For this reason he is unlikely to ever be convicted if first-degree murder in any jurisdiction. Malice aforethought requires just what the term itself suggests: premeditation. If the same fellow had discovered the adultery by other means, then decided to avenge himself by, say, laying in wait in the closet then shooting the lovers as they went at it, or if he had poisoned their tea, these acts would demonstrate malice aforethought.

    Traditionally, malice aforethought (or its absence) was a major distinguishing element between murder and manslaughter, and it remains (in some jurisdictions), an element to distinguish among different degrees of murder. However, the term has largely been abandoned in codified statutes addressing unlawful killing in the F.U.S.A., and perhaps your oversimplification of it is meant to acknowledge that and spare readers the nuances – but the discussion here is precisely about those nuances, and we are all big boys here. We can handle a bit of nuclear fission; no need to keep saying stars are "big balls of fire."

    What you describe – mere intent to kill – is simply the mens rea of murder, an essential element of that crime, but nothing to do with the presence or absence of malice aforethought.

    Malice aforethought requires just what the term itself suggests: premeditation.

    How would this requirement apply, for example, to the vehicular homicide in Charlottesville?

    What if what happened was that Fields suddenly became angry at the rioters blocking his right of way and deliberately drove into them?

    Alternatively, what if what happened was that Fields drove forward into them not caring whether or not they got out of the way, not caring whether he hit them or not?

    • Replies: @Alden
    Ask a criminal lawyer in the state in which it happened instead of posting inane asinine questions to someone who isn’t a criminal attorney in the state in which the incident occurred.

    Those are the only people who can answer the question.

    You’re Wizard of Oz aren’t you,?
    , @Autochthon
    Alden is not wrong to say such conjectures and questions can rapidly dissolve into nuances I'm not the best person to explain, but for what it is worth, I offer a basic response, assuming good faith.

    What ... Fields suddenly became angry at the rioters blocking his right of way and deliberately drove into them?
     
    The qualifier suddenly makes this question tricky. Malice aforethought does not require months of planning. It might occur in only a moment or two, as when the unwelcome guest leaves briefly, only to return from his automobile with a sidearm and murder the host for being inhospitable. (One of Steve's go-to examples of urban murder is in the context of such tiffs at parties.) Your example above seems most like that situation.

    In contrast, the classic example of a cuckold in a rage suggests a state of mind like what nowadays people like to call "temporary insanity" – a certain lack of volition at all. Just how suddenly Fields may have become angry, and just how genuine and reasonable such anger (or fear; in my opinion the more likely relevant emotion) may have been is a question largely for a finder of fact – a jury.

    Alternatively, what if ... Fields drove forward into them not caring whether or not they got out of the way, not caring whether he hit them or not?
     
    Well, now you have presented a classic example of what was called "depraved-heart murder" at common law: acting such that one knows or should know there is a certainty or even a probability that his actions will cause the death of another (or others), notwithstanding any intent to kill as such. Lobbing heavy stones off an overpass at motorists below, discharging a firearm in a crowd, filling a punch-bowl with poison, and so on are other examples of it. Nowadays, such acts usually qualify as second-degree murder in most jurisdictions.

    PS: "what happened was that" (and similar constructions, like "the reason was because") is universally and always an extraneous phrase; strive to avoid it.
  189. @dearieme
    I accept that, too often for comfort, American cops commit cowardly murders. But why do politicians so often pick such lousy cases to illustrate their complaints when the deceased is black? Are there no persuasive cases of cops murdering black victims?

    Because those are the most useful cases they can find for purposes of public relations. Which should tell you something about what you ‘accept’.

  190. @Anonymous

    This was established in a court of law after much scrutiny.
     
    No it wasn't.

    There was no petit jury trial and no bench trial. Criminal cases are seldom disposed of that way.

    He wasn’t indicted because there was no probable cause. The case was investigated by the local DA, who made no formal recommendation to the grand jury in the case, and Eric Holder’s Justice Department, who in their report bitched and moaned about jaywalking tickets because they had no more serious complaint to offer. Two separate autopsies were performed, one by the local coroner and one by and out-of-town pathologist engaged by Michael Brown’s family. They were consistent with Wilson’s account of the sequence of events. Don’t know how you missed it.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Alden
    Thank you. Investigation by 2 separate agencies, 1 viciously anti White, no charges filed.
    , @Anonymous

    He wasn’t indicted because there was no probable cause. The case was investigated by the local DA, who made no formal recommendation to the grand jury in the case,
     
    Thank you. It does appear to be incorrect to state he was cleared by a court of law. Did the matter ever even go before a grand jury?

    Do you think Warren has libeled Wilson here?
    , @eah
    He wasn’t indicted because there was no probable cause.

    This can be stated even more strongly: even the DOJ investigation found that all the physical evidence corroborated Wilson's version of events.

    The official DOJ report can be read in full here --> link to PDF -- in the final section it says: Given that Wilson’s account is corroborated by physical evidence and that his perception of a threat posed by Brown is corroborated by other eyewitnesses, to include aspects of the testimony of Witness 101, there is no credible evidence that Wilson willfully shot Brown as he was attempting to surrender or was otherwise not posing a threat.

    The conclusion: For the reasons set forth above, this matter lacks prosecutive merit and should be closed.

    It's interesting that so long after the event, people are still confused about the legal/judicial resolution of the case.

    Two separate autopsies were performed,...

    I think there were a total of 3: Brown's parents also arranged an autopsy -- my comment at the time was that they should have gone for the Guinness world autopsy record.

    Last but not least: in the investigations, both by the local Grand Jury and by the DOJ, it became very clear that a number of witnesses (all black of course) lied under oath, some multiple times -- this is normally a felony -- but in the interest of "community healing", a deliberate decision was taken not to prosecute these perjurers -- people should remember that -- also that a lot of the initial outrage followed by rioting and destruction was due to what these liars said.
  191. @dearieme
    I accept that, too often for comfort, American cops commit cowardly murders. But why do politicians so often pick such lousy cases to illustrate their complaints when the deceased is black? Are there no persuasive cases of cops murdering black victims?

    It’s the Dalrymple Explanation of Communist Propaganda again. The goal is not to make a point about police brutality (this point is already made in the minds of the choir anyway), it’s to dictate reality and humiliate potential critics.

  192. @Anonymous

    Real nazis would, as was their custom, take out 100 of the #resistance for every one of theirs. Disappointing, right?
     
    What ratio do Jews kill at in Israel?

    Not a hundred to one, not directly anyway unless you’re moving back and forth and aggregating different acts. In some of the most heinous examples of selflessly penetrating human shields from a safe distance it would be forty to one. Most cases would be something like two to four to one.

  193. @Anonymous

    Michael Brown was shot four times. He got the first wound (in the hand) trying to take officer Wilson’s duty gun away from him.
     
    He was shot in the hand trying to take Wilson's gun??

    Citation please?

    Why so incredulous? When you reach for a gun, your hand is presumably closer to (and at least in line with) that gun. I am very interested in counterexamples. It was the first shot, so it surely wasn’t aimed.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Why so incredulous? When you reach for a gun, your hand is presumably closer to (and at least in line with) that gun. I am very interested in counterexamples. It was the first shot, so it surely wasn’t aimed.
     
    The incredulity pertains to the allegation that Brown reached inside the car and tried to grab the officer's gun. Who does that? It sounds totally insane and possibly fabricated.

    But a point blank wound to the hand (did the forensics prove it was point blank?) would seem to at least be consistent with that crazy story.

    Having said that, isn't it more likely that the officer tried to grab Brown from inside the cab?
  194. @Hopscotch
    When it comes to organizing legal efforts, the Left makes conservatives look like fools. The Left has no shortage of legal funds to handle this scenario, where if Anne Coulter or Rush Limbaugh said the equivalent, they would be hit with a lawsuit the next day.

    Even if the police officer wished to sue, it is guaranteed:
    - his name will be dragged back through the mud, worsening (already meager) employment prospects.
    - he will need to take time off work to sue, and presumably, find a lawyer to work on contingency since he is broke.

    It's even worse in the case of a newspaper or media outlet, since they can both insure against libel and will often be heard by a sympathetic judge, if it even makes it to trial. This creates a massive asymmetry, where defendants basically risk higher insurance premiums (and the occasional settlement) and a small-time plaintiff, often risks their livelihood and their family's quality of life for the foreseeable future

    In a world of crowd-funding, conservatives could be empowering these plaintiffs and coordinating them for maximum damage. But other than cases like Hogan v. Gawker or egregious cases like Oberlin, conservatives let the Left operate with impunity.

    Both from a former job and one section of the family business, I’m all too familiar with lawyers and litigation.

    One would think that with the hordes graduating from law school every year, there’s be lots of hungry attorneys happy to take on conservative White Nationalist cases.

    But attorneys won’t take on conservative White Nationalist cases for 2 reasons.

    1 They know they’ll lose.
    2 Bar ethics forbid attorneys from taking cases they know have no merit.

    And in America a conservative or White cause has no merit. No merit doesn’t mean no merit morally. It means it’s un winnable because of anti conservative anti White laws and judicial precedents

    Also, there is a big difference between conservative causes and pro White causes.

    Darren Wilson’s is a pro White cause, not a conservative cause. The Covington Catholic Prep students cause is a pro White cause. It’s not a conservative cause despite the fact the boys were in DC, the realm of Satan, for an anti abortion demonstration.

    Plenty of catholic high school students sent students to march in the demonstration. We all know that if the homeless Indian had shoved his drum into the face of a Hispanic looking, Spanish surname Catholic school girl the anti White anti catholic media wouldn’t have done a thing when the homeless Indian sent his video to the TV channels

    Really, he’s an Indian grifter activist and can’t even hustle enough grant money to rent a cheap studio apt ?

    There’s conservative causes such as anti abortion, anti labor union abolish minimum wage, wars on behalf of Israel anti gay&tranny

    Then there’s White causes. White causes and conservative causes have nothing in common

    For economic issues, conservatism and pro Whitism the 2 issues are completely totally absolutely opposed.

  195. @dearieme
    I accept that, too often for comfort, American cops commit cowardly murders. But why do politicians so often pick such lousy cases to illustrate their complaints when the deceased is black? Are there no persuasive cases of cops murdering black victims?

    No there are not.

  196. @Art Deco
    There was no petit jury trial and no bench trial. Criminal cases are seldom disposed of that way.

    He wasn't indicted because there was no probable cause. The case was investigated by the local DA, who made no formal recommendation to the grand jury in the case, and Eric Holder's Justice Department, who in their report bitched and moaned about jaywalking tickets because they had no more serious complaint to offer. Two separate autopsies were performed, one by the local coroner and one by and out-of-town pathologist engaged by Michael Brown's family. They were consistent with Wilson's account of the sequence of events. Don't know how you missed it.

    Thank you. Investigation by 2 separate agencies, 1 viciously anti White, no charges filed.

  197. @Anonymous

    Malice aforethought requires just what the term itself suggests: premeditation.
     
    How would this requirement apply, for example, to the vehicular homicide in Charlottesville?

    What if what happened was that Fields suddenly became angry at the rioters blocking his right of way and deliberately drove into them?

    Alternatively, what if what happened was that Fields drove forward into them not caring whether or not they got out of the way, not caring whether he hit them or not?

    Ask a criminal lawyer in the state in which it happened instead of posting inane asinine questions to someone who isn’t a criminal attorney in the state in which the incident occurred.

    Those are the only people who can answer the question.

    You’re Wizard of Oz aren’t you,?

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Ask a criminal lawyer in the state in which it happened instead of posting inane asinine questions to someone who isn’t a criminal attorney in the state in which the incident occurred.
     
    Sure guy, let's have a rule where no lawyer here can write about the law unless the legal subject falls within his narrow practice area and there is a relevant specific fact pattern that happens to be in his jurisdiction. Not a constitutional law scholar or the situation is not in your circuit? Don't dare discuss constitutional law.
    Not a criminal lawyer or the criminal situation is not in your jurisdiction? Shut up. Don't even discuss general concepts because doing so is useless because we don't know if they'd apply to an actual case. (Why don't you direct your criticism at Autochthon?)

    And laypersons should be barred from discussing the law at all, except to ask questions. Or I guess not even that?

  198. @Anonymous

    In a way, no; she proved she has so little that any unique gene expression from that quarter is likely nil.
     
    "unique gene expression" (whatever that means in practice) is not the test.

    Anonymous 206 is Wizard of Oz. Ignore.

  199. @nebulafox
    McWhorter's a bright dude. Blue-voting liberal, but intelligent, sane, and perceptive.

    I'd recommend anybody here to check out his articles, particularly his accurate noting of the disturbingly religious character of 21st Century white liberal attitudes toward race.

    Got any links?

  200. @Prof. Woland
    Part of me wishes she would become the President. Elizabeth Warren is the death rattle of second wave feminism. An ugly ideology that should have been buried in a shallow grave when Hillary lost the Presidency for the second time but is still giving us one last noxious queeve expelled from the methane from its rotting corpse.

    The whole United States would so quickly become so sick of her Cun*y pedantic noise that by the end of her first term we would be permanently done with white liberals in general, and gays, feminists, socialists, and the rest of the baby boomer counter culture rot in specific. Like Obama, where we had to exorcise our black daemons, it would be like one big National enema where we could finally eliminate the women's movement as if it were a bowl movement.

    I don’t know about that. The Germans en masse haven’t gotten tired of Merkel yet, even though they should know better by now.

    • Replies: @eah
    The Germans en masse haven’t gotten tired of Merkel yet, even though they should know better by now.

    Perhaps you don't understand how a parliamentary system works: Merkel was not directly elected -- Merkel sunk to Trump-ish approval levels (ie < 50%) in 2016, and never recovered significantly -- she is (still) Kanzlerin because her party's (CDU) parliamentary (Bundestag) candidates got enough votes in the 2017 Bundestagswahl (link), that it was possible to continue the Große Koalition (GroKo) with the SPD -- because the CDU got more votes than the SPD, she stayed Kanzlerin -- not long after the election, she gave up her post as head of the CDU, meaning when she finishes her time as Kanzlerin, ie at the end of her term, due to her resigning, or a no confidence vote, she is finished in politics -- since 2017, both the CDU and SPD have sunk in the polls, the SPD to historic lows, eg in some surveys less than 15% -- so the GroKo is generally unpopular -- but a lot of Merkel's policies are little different from those of the Green Party, which has risen in the polls, generally to around 20% -- so the GroKo would survive any no confidence vote because the Greens would vote in support of the GroKo.

    In a few weeks there will be regional elections in several former East German Bundesländer -- it is virtually assured that the AfD will emerge as the strongest party in each of those elections.

    , @Art Deco
    They're tired of the Christian Democrats and even moreso of the Social Democratic Party, who between them are currently corralling about 1/3 of the polls respondents. Add in the Bavarian affiliate of the Christian Democrats, and you get about 40%. A generation ago, these parties would have corralled 90% of the electorate. The trouble is that an insufficient share of the German public has tired of disorder, population replacement, and Brussels. Other than Alternative for Germany, there is no organized resistance to these phenomena, and AfD is good for about 13% of the vote right now. The Green Party is poised to establish itself as the plurality party in Germany, displacing the Christian Democrats and the Social Democrats. They're for open borders, more or less.

    In re Germany, let the dead bury the dead. Cannot be salvaged, just walled off from people willing to defend themselves.
  201. @Craig
    Tiny Duck, the “Alan Colmes” of the iSteve commentators. I’m leaning towards the opinion this is a parody account.

    He’s fake whatever else here is.

  202. The ex-policeman should sue. A United States senator says you “Murdered” a man, when everyone found you killed the man in self-defense? Sounds like Slander to me. The police guy isn’t a public figure either. Or if he was, he’s not now.

    You really wonder how many anti-white, anti-Christian things someone like Warren, Harris, or Bernie has to say, before people recognize them as the enemy? As for Booker. I guess White people in NJ think he brings home the bacon. Or maybe they’re just plain stupid.

  203. @Anonymous
    Say what you will, she has PROVED that she has Amerindian ancestry.

    2 parents 4 grandparents 16 great grandparents 64 great great grand parents 4,096 great great great grandparents that’s only about 150 years

  204. @anon215
    I’m embarrassed for the huwhyte Democratic candidates who seem to think that this will somehow gain them favor. Do they not realize how idiotic this tactic is?

    They want to win the primaries. That’s why they’re ignoring Hispanics & LGBTU whatever the acronym is. They’re going for their ruling faction, the 109 year old big city blacks and Jews who will decide the primaries

    Although the Jews all live in Greenwich, New Bedford Great Neck 5 Towns Shaker Heights, Lake Forest Highland Park, Edina, Capitol Hill Marin county Pacific Heights Presidio Heights Sea Cliff, Encino, Bel Air Brentwood, Woodland Hills Beverly Hills as far as possible from their beloved and adored blacks and still be in the Metro area nowadays.

  205. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco
    There was no petit jury trial and no bench trial. Criminal cases are seldom disposed of that way.

    He wasn't indicted because there was no probable cause. The case was investigated by the local DA, who made no formal recommendation to the grand jury in the case, and Eric Holder's Justice Department, who in their report bitched and moaned about jaywalking tickets because they had no more serious complaint to offer. Two separate autopsies were performed, one by the local coroner and one by and out-of-town pathologist engaged by Michael Brown's family. They were consistent with Wilson's account of the sequence of events. Don't know how you missed it.

    He wasn’t indicted because there was no probable cause. The case was investigated by the local DA, who made no formal recommendation to the grand jury in the case,

    Thank you. It does appear to be incorrect to state he was cleared by a court of law. Did the matter ever even go before a grand jury?

    Do you think Warren has libeled Wilson here?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Yes it went before a grand jury. Ordinarily the prosecutor offers a recommendation in addition to presenting evidence. In that case he just presented the evidence and they elected to no-bill the officer.
  206. @Anon
    I don't know about that. The Germans en masse haven't gotten tired of Merkel yet, even though they should know better by now.

    The Germans en masse haven’t gotten tired of Merkel yet, even though they should know better by now.

    Perhaps you don’t understand how a parliamentary system works: Merkel was not directly elected — Merkel sunk to Trump-ish approval levels (ie < 50%) in 2016, and never recovered significantly — she is (still) Kanzlerin because her party's (CDU) parliamentary (Bundestag) candidates got enough votes in the 2017 Bundestagswahl (link), that it was possible to continue the Große Koalition (GroKo) with the SPD — because the CDU got more votes than the SPD, she stayed Kanzlerin — not long after the election, she gave up her post as head of the CDU, meaning when she finishes her time as Kanzlerin, ie at the end of her term, due to her resigning, or a no confidence vote, she is finished in politics — since 2017, both the CDU and SPD have sunk in the polls, the SPD to historic lows, eg in some surveys less than 15% — so the GroKo is generally unpopular — but a lot of Merkel’s policies are little different from those of the Green Party, which has risen in the polls, generally to around 20% — so the GroKo would survive any no confidence vote because the Greens would vote in support of the GroKo.

    In a few weeks there will be regional elections in several former East German Bundesländer — it is virtually assured that the AfD will emerge as the strongest party in each of those elections.

  207. OT

    • Replies: @eah
    Wikipedia has been appropriately updated -- in real-time no less.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBnUqx-VUAAknaU.jpg
  208. @eah
    OT

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBoPki6WwAcR4a1.jpg

    Wikipedia has been appropriately updated — in real-time no less.

    • LOL: Vinteuil
    • Replies: @eah
    https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1160296884696563713
    , @Vinteuil
    Maybe kinda like this?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64-PGJpKQZg
  209. @More R1b, Less H1B
    The results suggested an Amerindian ancestor six to ten generations ago. How many of your thousand-plus great-great-great-great-grandparents can you name, let alone share biographical information on? The whole foundation of her identity as a Red Woman rests on her 'family lore,' yet we have no way of knowing if that squaw DNA is even on the branch she asserts it is. Other members of the same family say they haven't heard the stories (including those about the opposition to 'interracial marriage' faced by her ivory-white grandparents.) If you look through enough haystacks, sometimes you'll find a needle. Hell, sometimes it's not even the one you were looking for.

    If I tell my grandkids that Yakub the Scientist grew them out of a test tube in his subterranean Afrikan lab, and a 23andme twenty years later suggests 0.097% African DNA, that doesn't make the narrative any less absurd.

    The results suggested an Amerindian ancestor six to ten generations ago.

    Pocohontas is estimated to have 100,000 descendants today. They are all qualified to call themselves aboriginals.

  210. @Hail

    Michael Brown was murdered by a white police officer
     
    Libel, noun
    1. [LAW] a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation. | Synonyms: defamation, defamation of character, character assassination, calumny, misrepresentation; aspersions, denigration, vilification, slander, ...

    ____________________

    Why aren't statements like Warren's here punishable by libel law? I don't get it.

    Why even have libel laws if they can't be applied to this kind of case? She has defames and libeled of Darren Wilson (b.1986; the sad post-script: After being fired from the police force by a CNN-led pitchfork mob, he went into a period of unemployment and eventually surfaced as a minimum-wage-or-so shoe salesman at a chain store).

    Wilson did nothing wrong and was not convicted of 'murdering' Brown. Her libel of Wilson hurts all Whites, but especially White Christian males, a mass blood-libel against over one hundred million people on this continent. And it seems empirically proven, now, to have caused thousands of excess deaths these past five years.

    What is the solution to this kind of cheap, anti-White demagoguery:

    An American ex-CEO and current right-wing think tank leader, Curt Doolittle, proposes making all political statements subject to libel law, a one-fell-swoop way to take back a dramatic amount of ground:


    Yes it is possible to use this methodology to plug holes in our common law, our legislative processes, and our judicial processes. Because the method, by producing a formal logic of the ‘soft (human)’ sciences enables and forces judgements made not by interpretation but by application of that logic.

    The prosecution of lies in the commons is possible because today we successfully suppress fraud in commercial speech, and in the past we used to prosecute scolding, libel, slander, fraud, fraud by omission, fraud by conspiracy, and treason in defense of the commons (King’s Peace).

    We allowed the state and the left to use the hole in ‘free speech’, rather than free truthful speech, to destroy our protections of the informational commons. And we did not repair the holes in the constitution
     

    So "Lock Her Up" -- Warren, that is -- for libel, for incitement to hatred against a specific race (White-European-Christians in the USA) and thus treason. Maybe no need to lock her up, but do convict her of libel.

    Why aren’t statements like Warren’s here punishable by libel law? I don’t get it.

    It is simple.

    An advice columnist, I forget which, once wrote that it is OK to go to your mailbox in your sleepwear, because a person going to their mail box is officially invisible.

    Similarly politicians running for office have a kind of parliamentary immunity and it is understood that the lies that they tell while campaigning are not to be taken seriously and therefore officially off the record.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  211. @Art Deco
    There was no petit jury trial and no bench trial. Criminal cases are seldom disposed of that way.

    He wasn't indicted because there was no probable cause. The case was investigated by the local DA, who made no formal recommendation to the grand jury in the case, and Eric Holder's Justice Department, who in their report bitched and moaned about jaywalking tickets because they had no more serious complaint to offer. Two separate autopsies were performed, one by the local coroner and one by and out-of-town pathologist engaged by Michael Brown's family. They were consistent with Wilson's account of the sequence of events. Don't know how you missed it.

    He wasn’t indicted because there was no probable cause.

    This can be stated even more strongly: even the DOJ investigation found that all the physical evidence corroborated Wilson’s version of events.

    The official DOJ report can be read in full here –> link to PDF — in the final section it says: Given that Wilson’s account is corroborated by physical evidence and that his perception of a threat posed by Brown is corroborated by other eyewitnesses, to include aspects of the testimony of Witness 101, there is no credible evidence that Wilson willfully shot Brown as he was attempting to surrender or was otherwise not posing a threat.

    The conclusion: For the reasons set forth above, this matter lacks prosecutive merit and should be closed.

    It’s interesting that so long after the event, people are still confused about the legal/judicial resolution of the case.

    Two separate autopsies were performed,…

    I think there were a total of 3: Brown’s parents also arranged an autopsy — my comment at the time was that they should have gone for the Guinness world autopsy record.

    Last but not least: in the investigations, both by the local Grand Jury and by the DOJ, it became very clear that a number of witnesses (all black of course) lied under oath, some multiple times — this is normally a felony — but in the interest of “community healing”, a deliberate decision was taken not to prosecute these perjurers — people should remember that — also that a lot of the initial outrage followed by rioting and destruction was due to what these liars said.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
  212. OT

    Does the name sound familiar?

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Good. Do this everyday. Then the message gets back to the caravans that there ain't no jobs in the chicken factories. Put the plant managers in jail overnight just for fun.
    , @Jack D
    Not the same family.
  213. @Anonymous

    Malice aforethought requires just what the term itself suggests: premeditation.
     
    How would this requirement apply, for example, to the vehicular homicide in Charlottesville?

    What if what happened was that Fields suddenly became angry at the rioters blocking his right of way and deliberately drove into them?

    Alternatively, what if what happened was that Fields drove forward into them not caring whether or not they got out of the way, not caring whether he hit them or not?

    Alden is not wrong to say such conjectures and questions can rapidly dissolve into nuances I’m not the best person to explain, but for what it is worth, I offer a basic response, assuming good faith.

    What … Fields suddenly became angry at the rioters blocking his right of way and deliberately drove into them?

    The qualifier suddenly makes this question tricky. Malice aforethought does not require months of planning. It might occur in only a moment or two, as when the unwelcome guest leaves briefly, only to return from his automobile with a sidearm and murder the host for being inhospitable. (One of Steve’s go-to examples of urban murder is in the context of such tiffs at parties.) Your example above seems most like that situation.

    In contrast, the classic example of a cuckold in a rage suggests a state of mind like what nowadays people like to call “temporary insanity” – a certain lack of volition at all. Just how suddenly Fields may have become angry, and just how genuine and reasonable such anger (or fear; in my opinion the more likely relevant emotion) may have been is a question largely for a finder of fact – a jury.

    Alternatively, what if … Fields drove forward into them not caring whether or not they got out of the way, not caring whether he hit them or not?

    Well, now you have presented a classic example of what was called “depraved-heart murder” at common law: acting such that one knows or should know there is a certainty or even a probability that his actions will cause the death of another (or others), notwithstanding any intent to kill as such. Lobbing heavy stones off an overpass at motorists below, discharging a firearm in a crowd, filling a punch-bowl with poison, and so on are other examples of it. Nowadays, such acts usually qualify as second-degree murder in most jurisdictions.

    PS: “what happened was that” (and similar constructions, like “the reason was because”) is universally and always an extraneous phrase; strive to avoid it.

  214. @eah
    Wikipedia has been appropriately updated -- in real-time no less.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBnUqx-VUAAknaU.jpg

  215. @Craig
    Tiny Duck, the “Alan Colmes” of the iSteve commentators. I’m leaning towards the opinion this is a parody account.

    I’ve assumed it’s parody for a while- about 4 years or so.

  216. @Anon
    I don't know about that. The Germans en masse haven't gotten tired of Merkel yet, even though they should know better by now.

    They’re tired of the Christian Democrats and even moreso of the Social Democratic Party, who between them are currently corralling about 1/3 of the polls respondents. Add in the Bavarian affiliate of the Christian Democrats, and you get about 40%. A generation ago, these parties would have corralled 90% of the electorate. The trouble is that an insufficient share of the German public has tired of disorder, population replacement, and Brussels. Other than Alternative for Germany, there is no organized resistance to these phenomena, and AfD is good for about 13% of the vote right now. The Green Party is poised to establish itself as the plurality party in Germany, displacing the Christian Democrats and the Social Democrats. They’re for open borders, more or less.

    In re Germany, let the dead bury the dead. Cannot be salvaged, just walled off from people willing to defend themselves.

    • Replies: @Vinteuil

    In re Germany, let the dead bury the dead. Cannot be salvaged.
     
    Unfortunately, yes. The surviving Germans are hopeless.

    just walled off from people willing to defend themselves.
     
    Like the Hungarians & the Poles. Possibly even the Italians. God bless them all.
  217. @Alden
    His gown size XXXXXX. He wanted to do HVAC. He’d have problems working in small spaces, necessary in that job. Plus following instructions, learning the mechanics of the job learning the applicable building codes, working with other people.

    And if he was fired for being useless and a menace to other employees there’d be a big penalty imposed by a federal nigger loving agency.

    So he’d be given some make work do nothing job well away from the rest of the crew and as much days off as he wanted. But still on the payroll.

    When the mafia imposed no work employees, it was extortion, a felony . When the scions of Satan, aka judges and federal agencies do the same thing, it’s called civil rights and equal opportunity.

    Blacks get canned from their jobs routinely. Being retained but getting shunted off into a sinecure is what might happen if he worked for a school district, not the ordinary run of employer.

    The papers are remarkably incurious and respectful of privacy when it suits them to be, so you heard nothing of his personal history. Given his conduct that day and that of his mother, her husband, and her mother in the ensuing months, it’s difficult to believe there wasn’t a fat file in the school system and juvenile hall (or fat before the social work grifters who yap about the ‘school-to-prison pipeline’ got hold of it).

    The gross irony of it all was that Ferguson was for the most part an ordinary working class suburb chock-a-bloc with black homeowners. The Governor, the media, the Justice Department, and the sorosphere outfits effectively sided with black lumpens contra a biracial set of working people. So the place is going downhill rapidly

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  218. @Art Deco
    Michael Brown was shot four times. He got the first wound (in the hand) trying to take officer Wilson's duty gun away from him. The next two wounds were in the arm-and-deltoid, received as he was charging Ofc. Wilson. The last shot was the head wound which killed him.


    In a sane and well-ordered society, these five people would be run out of public life for lies so brazen and so malevolent.

    According to the DOJ report Brown was hit 6-8 times.
    https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/doj_report_on_shooting_of_michael_brown_1.pdf

    Ballistics analysis indicates that Wilson fired a total of 12 shots, two from the SUV and ten on the roadway. Witness accounts and an audio recording indicate that when Wilson and Brown were on the roadway, Wilson fired three gunshot volleys, pausing in between each one. According to the autopsy results, Wilson shot and hit Brown as few as six or as many as eight times, including the gunshot to Brown’s hand. Brown fell to the ground dead as a result of a gunshot to the apex of his head.

    I agree with your final sentence.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    No clue why the Department of Justice fancies there are 8 wounds when the pathologists find four. No clue what sort of duty gun he had but most skeptical it held 12 rounds.
  219. @Mr McKenna
    The chart further down the page, which tracks the composite poll results over time, is pretty informative. Warren's on a tear, and Kamala has lost her 'righteous debate' bump.

    I'm still surprised at how well Biden is doing. Can't explain it really.

    A lot of white folks who vote Dem for historic reasons aren’t compete loons, and Biden is the one candidate who can pass for sane, at least in low light.

    • Replies: @dearieme
    Sane, perhaps, but what about the whiff of dementia?
  220. @Lot
    https://saraacarter.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/ElizabethWarren-2019-02-06-10.10.24.png

    https://pix-media.s3.amazonaws.com/blog/808/ScreenShot2014-09-09at11.45.37AM.png

    ‘Ol Iron Eyes wasn’t an Indian anymore than Liz, but he immersed himself in the role publicly and privately, more than she ever did (never). He married a full blooded Indian lady and adopted Indian boys who venerated their Dad, and he opened a museum dedicated to American Indians.

  221. @MBlanc46
    A lot of white folks who vote Dem for historic reasons aren’t compete loons, and Biden is the one candidate who can pass for sane, at least in low light.

    Sane, perhaps, but what about the whiff of dementia?

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    The corporate will cover that up, as they did with Clinton’s apparent health problems in 2016.
  222. @Art Deco
    Michael Brown was shot four times. He got the first wound (in the hand) trying to take officer Wilson's duty gun away from him. The next two wounds were in the arm-and-deltoid, received as he was charging Ofc. Wilson. The last shot was the head wound which killed him.


    In a sane and well-ordered society, these five people would be run out of public life for lies so brazen and so malevolent.

    In a sane and well-ordered society, these five people would be run out of public life for lies so brazen and so malevolent.

    Precisely so. Elizabeth Warren & Bernie Sanders seem to enjoy a certain amount of sympathy, around here – but, in the end, they are no more our friends than Kamala Harris or Cory Booker or the absurd Kerstin Gillibrand.

  223. Democrats desperate as a 46 YO divorcee for racial agitation to “get out the black vote”, they may come out to vote in Spades for Trump, they like working and having incomes even if Trump is racist, Obama stroking everybody with race baiting bullshit didnt put money in the pocket or food on the table.

  224. @eah
    Wikipedia has been appropriately updated -- in real-time no less.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBnUqx-VUAAknaU.jpg

    Maybe kinda like this?

  225. @Art Deco
    They're tired of the Christian Democrats and even moreso of the Social Democratic Party, who between them are currently corralling about 1/3 of the polls respondents. Add in the Bavarian affiliate of the Christian Democrats, and you get about 40%. A generation ago, these parties would have corralled 90% of the electorate. The trouble is that an insufficient share of the German public has tired of disorder, population replacement, and Brussels. Other than Alternative for Germany, there is no organized resistance to these phenomena, and AfD is good for about 13% of the vote right now. The Green Party is poised to establish itself as the plurality party in Germany, displacing the Christian Democrats and the Social Democrats. They're for open borders, more or less.

    In re Germany, let the dead bury the dead. Cannot be salvaged, just walled off from people willing to defend themselves.

    In re Germany, let the dead bury the dead. Cannot be salvaged.

    Unfortunately, yes. The surviving Germans are hopeless.

    just walled off from people willing to defend themselves.

    Like the Hungarians & the Poles. Possibly even the Italians. God bless them all.

  226. @Alden
    His gown size XXXXXX. He wanted to do HVAC. He’d have problems working in small spaces, necessary in that job. Plus following instructions, learning the mechanics of the job learning the applicable building codes, working with other people.

    And if he was fired for being useless and a menace to other employees there’d be a big penalty imposed by a federal nigger loving agency.

    So he’d be given some make work do nothing job well away from the rest of the crew and as much days off as he wanted. But still on the payroll.

    When the mafia imposed no work employees, it was extortion, a felony . When the scions of Satan, aka judges and federal agencies do the same thing, it’s called civil rights and equal opportunity.

    Standards and practices!
    Second paragraph, third to last word; also note excerpt reappears (with word) in Art’s reply.
    Can the comment be kept but the word X’d out?
    Did the rules change?

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Hear, hear! I've written a hojillion profound things containing this word, and long since given up writing anything containing the word after realising it would never be permitted, even though its use was integral to my points, yet here comes this fellow, and he has carte blanche?

    It's bad enough when a word is decided to have such evil, magic powers it cannot be spoken or written, but worse still when it may be spoken or written sometimes, and others not, according to arbitrary whims.
    , @Mr McKenna
    Too bad if the word is sacred to anyone--one way or another--but the simple fact is that the use of it gives aid and comfort to the enemy and is prohibited here for good reason. Steve normally strikes posts containing it once they're brought to his attention, but some slip through moderation, and we have no 'report' function here to alert him.
  227. @Autochthon
    This explanation is incorrect. If I recall correctly, you are also a lawyer, so you had not ought to be explaining law incorrectly when laymen sincerely request explanations, and thereby spreading misinformation and confusion.

    Malice aforethought is not merely (or "basically") "intend[ing] to cause...death."

    Wilson (or Zimmerman, any number of people who shoot, stab, or even beat to death an attacker who was trying to kill them in the first place) and many others defending themselves, justifiably because of a reasonable fear of death or grievous bodily injury often do indeed intend to cause death. They are not acting with malice aforethought.

    If a man enters his bedroom to discover his wife in flagrante delicto with the mailman and, in a blind rage, attacks and kills them, even he has not acted with "malice aforethought." For this reason he is unlikely to ever be convicted if first-degree murder in any jurisdiction. Malice aforethought requires just what the term itself suggests: premeditation. If the same fellow had discovered the adultery by other means, then decided to avenge himself by, say, laying in wait in the closet then shooting the lovers as they went at it, or if he had poisoned their tea, these acts would demonstrate malice aforethought.

    Traditionally, malice aforethought (or its absence) was a major distinguishing element between murder and manslaughter, and it remains (in some jurisdictions), an element to distinguish among different degrees of murder. However, the term has largely been abandoned in codified statutes addressing unlawful killing in the F.U.S.A., and perhaps your oversimplification of it is meant to acknowledge that and spare readers the nuances – but the discussion here is precisely about those nuances, and we are all big boys here. We can handle a bit of nuclear fission; no need to keep saying stars are "big balls of fire."

    What you describe – mere intent to kill – is simply the mens rea of murder, an essential element of that crime, but nothing to do with the presence or absence of malice aforethought.

    There are some here who are capable of understanding all of the nuances of malice aforethought (in any case an archaic concept) and others who are not. I was trying to dash off a quick 3 line answer and based upon what I judged to be the sophistication of the questioner and not write an answer for a crim law exam. Honestly, the answer to almost any question today is “ask google” so 3 lines is more than he deserved. I don’t disagree with anything that you wrote. What I wrote was not so much “wrong” as incomplete, but I was not attempting a comprehensive treatment.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Fair enough. I want also wish to thank and acknowledge your civility.
  228. @eah
    OT

    Does the name sound familiar?

    https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1159889370830299136

    Good. Do this everyday. Then the message gets back to the caravans that there ain’t no jobs in the chicken factories. Put the plant managers in jail overnight just for fun.

  229. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    Why so incredulous? When you reach for a gun, your hand is presumably closer to (and at least in line with) that gun. I am very interested in counterexamples. It was the first shot, so it surely wasn't aimed.

    Why so incredulous? When you reach for a gun, your hand is presumably closer to (and at least in line with) that gun. I am very interested in counterexamples. It was the first shot, so it surely wasn’t aimed.

    The incredulity pertains to the allegation that Brown reached inside the car and tried to grab the officer’s gun. Who does that? It sounds totally insane and possibly fabricated.

    But a point blank wound to the hand (did the forensics prove it was point blank?) would seem to at least be consistent with that crazy story.

    Having said that, isn’t it more likely that the officer tried to grab Brown from inside the cab?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Ahhh, once again Horace Rumpole reminds us that violent teenaged criminals are as rigorously logical as rocket scientists.
    Who does that? You're asking who does that? As an enthusiast of both cheap cigars and neighborhood-stabilizing yellow men, I might ask who does what Our Gentle Giant did on videotape shortly before attacking Wilson. Who does that indeed. You know perfectly well who does that even if Alden doesn't spell it out for you.
  230. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden
    Ask a criminal lawyer in the state in which it happened instead of posting inane asinine questions to someone who isn’t a criminal attorney in the state in which the incident occurred.

    Those are the only people who can answer the question.

    You’re Wizard of Oz aren’t you,?

    Ask a criminal lawyer in the state in which it happened instead of posting inane asinine questions to someone who isn’t a criminal attorney in the state in which the incident occurred.

    Sure guy, let’s have a rule where no lawyer here can write about the law unless the legal subject falls within his narrow practice area and there is a relevant specific fact pattern that happens to be in his jurisdiction. Not a constitutional law scholar or the situation is not in your circuit? Don’t dare discuss constitutional law.
    Not a criminal lawyer or the criminal situation is not in your jurisdiction? Shut up. Don’t even discuss general concepts because doing so is useless because we don’t know if they’d apply to an actual case. (Why don’t you direct your criticism at Autochthon?)

    And laypersons should be barred from discussing the law at all, except to ask questions. Or I guess not even that?

  231. @eah
    OT

    Does the name sound familiar?

    https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1159889370830299136

    Not the same family.

    • Agree: eah
  232. @Jack D
    There are some here who are capable of understanding all of the nuances of malice aforethought (in any case an archaic concept) and others who are not. I was trying to dash off a quick 3 line answer and based upon what I judged to be the sophistication of the questioner and not write an answer for a crim law exam. Honestly, the answer to almost any question today is "ask google" so 3 lines is more than he deserved. I don't disagree with anything that you wrote. What I wrote was not so much "wrong" as incomplete, but I was not attempting a comprehensive treatment.

    Fair enough. I want also wish to thank and acknowledge your civility.

  233. @J.Ross
    Standards and practices!
    Second paragraph, third to last word; also note excerpt reappears (with word) in Art's reply.
    Can the comment be kept but the word X'd out?
    Did the rules change?

    Hear, hear! I’ve written a hojillion profound things containing this word, and long since given up writing anything containing the word after realising it would never be permitted, even though its use was integral to my points, yet here comes this fellow, and he has carte blanche?

    It’s bad enough when a word is decided to have such evil, magic powers it cannot be spoken or written, but worse still when it may be spoken or written sometimes, and others not, according to arbitrary whims.

  234. @Anonymous

    He wasn’t indicted because there was no probable cause. The case was investigated by the local DA, who made no formal recommendation to the grand jury in the case,
     
    Thank you. It does appear to be incorrect to state he was cleared by a court of law. Did the matter ever even go before a grand jury?

    Do you think Warren has libeled Wilson here?

    Yes it went before a grand jury. Ordinarily the prosecutor offers a recommendation in addition to presenting evidence. In that case he just presented the evidence and they elected to no-bill the officer.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    In that case he just presented the evidence and they elected to no-bill the officer.
     
    Can we infer anything from that though? It could be meaningless. How likely is a grand jury to indict if the prosecutors haven't made a recommendation?
  235. @res
    According to the DOJ report Brown was hit 6-8 times.
    https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/doj_report_on_shooting_of_michael_brown_1.pdf

    Ballistics analysis indicates that Wilson fired a total of 12 shots, two from the SUV and ten on the roadway. Witness accounts and an audio recording indicate that when Wilson and Brown were on the roadway, Wilson fired three gunshot volleys, pausing in between each one. According to the autopsy results, Wilson shot and hit Brown as few as six or as many as eight times, including the gunshot to Brown’s hand. Brown fell to the ground dead as a result of a gunshot to the apex of his head.
     
    I agree with your final sentence.

    No clue why the Department of Justice fancies there are 8 wounds when the pathologists find four. No clue what sort of duty gun he had but most skeptical it held 12 rounds.

  236. @Anon
    I think Trump'll cruise to victory anyway. One, his opponents keep imploding because of brain-dead rhetoric and stupidity, and two, there's a bunch of moderates out there who voted for Hillary in 2016, who wanted business as usual, and they're getting rattled by the solid wall of 'destroy whitey' leftist pandering that's been spewed out for the last two years. These people are likely to shift to Trump. They aren't going to vote for a violent overthrow of themselves, white society, and white culture.

    If you look at the poll that was recently taken and add up the numbers of the top 10 Democratic candidates, they come up to 72%, not 100%. 28% of the Democrats surveyed didn't like ANY of the Democratic candidates. That 28% is likely to either not vote, vote 3rd party, or vote for Trump. This isn't a crowd coming together behind Obama in 2008. Over a quarter of Democratic supporters today can't stand any of their own candidates. The best that any of those candidates can do is Biden at 29%. If Biden gets the nomination, and 71% of Democrats right now don't think much of him, the Democrats are going to implode at the polls in 2020. Like I said, they either won't vote, or they'll vote third party, or they'll vote for Trump as the less crazy option.

    This isn’t a crowd coming together behind Obama in 2008.

    You’re absolutely 100% right on that and I didn’t give it much of a thought until you pointed it out. And I didn’t realize so many Democrats were disillusioned and may shift to Trump. If true, then it would be a political earthquake bigger than Trump’s win in 2016 and far more interesting to analyze.

    It’s unfortunate that Trump’s only option to win will be by default since most of his opponents are insane. He’s been a complete failure on everything that ignited his enthusiastic crowds during the campaign – immigration, the wall, government reform and now he is backtracking on gun rights. He posts silly, obnoxious tweets and then does whatever the incompetent, social-climbing duo Javanka tell him. Sometimes I wonder if Trump should just run as a moderate Democrat.

    That was an excellent analysis and a pleasure to read. Thank you for your intelligent post.

  237. @Art Deco
    Yes it went before a grand jury. Ordinarily the prosecutor offers a recommendation in addition to presenting evidence. In that case he just presented the evidence and they elected to no-bill the officer.

    In that case he just presented the evidence and they elected to no-bill the officer.

    Can we infer anything from that though? It could be meaningless. How likely is a grand jury to indict if the prosecutors haven’t made a recommendation?

  238. Nothing will bring Michael back. Thank God!

  239. @Chris Mallory

    After being fired from the police force by a CNN-led pitchfork mob, he went into a period of unemployment and eventually surfaced as a minimum-wage-or-so shoe salesman at a chain store).
     
    At least now he is doing something productive instead of living off the sweat of the tax payer's brow. I am surprised he was even qualified to sell shoes. The average cop isn't even smart enough to pick up cans on the side of the road.

    And YOUR people came over on the Mayflower??

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    What Philistine would claim descent from the arrivistes in the Mayflower?

    Decent people's ancestors traveled aboard the Susan Constant, Godspeed, and Discovery. Even they must, of course, concede primacy to the descendants of those aboard the San Pelayo and its complement.

    I'll never understand all this obsession with the Mayflower in this context; really, I won't. My best guess is it is just more bullshit propagated to glorify the victors in the War of Northern Aggression.

  240. @J.Ross
    Standards and practices!
    Second paragraph, third to last word; also note excerpt reappears (with word) in Art's reply.
    Can the comment be kept but the word X'd out?
    Did the rules change?

    Too bad if the word is sacred to anyone–one way or another–but the simple fact is that the use of it gives aid and comfort to the enemy and is prohibited here for good reason. Steve normally strikes posts containing it once they’re brought to his attention, but some slip through moderation, and we have no ‘report’ function here to alert him.

  241. @Father O'Hara
    And YOUR people came over on the Mayflower??

    What Philistine would claim descent from the arrivistes in the Mayflower?

    Decent people’s ancestors traveled aboard the Susan Constant, Godspeed, and Discovery. Even they must, of course, concede primacy to the descendants of those aboard the San Pelayo and its complement.

    I’ll never understand all this obsession with the Mayflower in this context; really, I won’t. My best guess is it is just more bullshit propagated to glorify the victors in the War of Northern Aggression.

  242. @Roger
    Why are the Dems so excited about Ferguson? Did the issue come up in the debates?

    I must have missed something. I do not know why any candidate would want to revisit this issue.

    Why are the Dems so excited about Ferguson? Did the issue come up in the debates?

    I must have missed something. I do not know why any candidate would want to revisit this issue.

    Duh. Whip up more anti-White hate. Reliable way to get out Dem votes.

    Come on.

  243. @Anonymous

    Why so incredulous? When you reach for a gun, your hand is presumably closer to (and at least in line with) that gun. I am very interested in counterexamples. It was the first shot, so it surely wasn’t aimed.
     
    The incredulity pertains to the allegation that Brown reached inside the car and tried to grab the officer's gun. Who does that? It sounds totally insane and possibly fabricated.

    But a point blank wound to the hand (did the forensics prove it was point blank?) would seem to at least be consistent with that crazy story.

    Having said that, isn't it more likely that the officer tried to grab Brown from inside the cab?

    Ahhh, once again Horace Rumpole reminds us that violent teenaged criminals are as rigorously logical as rocket scientists.
    Who does that? You’re asking who does that? As an enthusiast of both cheap cigars and neighborhood-stabilizing yellow men, I might ask who does what Our Gentle Giant did on videotape shortly before attacking Wilson. Who does that indeed. You know perfectly well who does that even if Alden doesn’t spell it out for you.

  244. White law enforcement officers should stop risking their lives policing gang-infested places like the southside of Chicago. The murders there are mostly scum killing scum.

  245. @dearieme
    Sane, perhaps, but what about the whiff of dementia?

    The corporate will cover that up, as they did with Clinton’s apparent health problems in 2016.

  246. • Replies: @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/saletan/status/1160910674568126464

    https://twitter.com/saletan/status/1160908270430765056
  247. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/1160925476652646408

  248. One of BLM’s looniest twitter personalities is a advising the candidates
    https://mobile.twitter.com/samswey/status/1162185898487963650

Comments are closed.

Subscribe to All Steve Sailer Comments via RSS
PastClassics
Our Reigning Political Puppets, Dancing to Invisible Strings
Shouldn't they recuse themselves when dealing with the Middle East?