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I’m actually not really surprised by the results from Virginia. NoVa is practically the epicenter of The Swamp moreso than Maryland even and the region is more anti-Trump than most other places. The GOP got lucky up to now thanks to weak D candidates and gerrymandering, but I figured their luck would run out eventually. Just wasn’t expecting it to be this year.
Surprised the GOP lost three legislative seats in Georgia though. Somebody better lose their job over that blunder.
It's, of course, not surprising that the counties/cities adjacent to D.C. went heavily for the Democrats, but what's a bit surprising is how badly the Republicans did in the outer-suburbs and exurbs that have been their bedrock. I think what's happening (and have happened) is as follows:
1. Suburbanization of exurbs. Remember when GW Bush won and was re-elected? The key to Republican victory was the exurb - one shell-shocked Democratic vote-getter compared the massive rise of Republican exurban voters to zombie herds. He said, "We didn't realize there were that many voters in the exurbs. They just kept coming, coming, and coming to the polls."
Well, now those exurbs have become suburbs, full of migrants from both outside the country and from places such as New York and New Jersey, and are trending strongly for the Democrats. The writing, so to speak, was on the wall when the Loudoun County school system became mired in the "gay penguin" book controversy a few years ago. That would have been unthinkable twenty years ago.
2. Population relocation/growth. Not only has the region experienced a dramatic growth of foreign populations (especially Hispanics, Indians, and Muslims), it has received a large infusion of population from the Northeast and California as the region's economy has grown massively. At first, the growth was almost entirely powered by government contracting, but now the area has become a huge tech hub. And while this has been a boon for the region's businesses (car mechanics routinely make $100,000+ a year and family-run HVAC or landscaping companies gross millions of dollars a year), it has completely altered the cultural landscape and social fabric of the area.
There was a time, not long ago, when commuters to D.C. from Fairfax County chose McLean for home if they desired the traditional bedroom suburb or Great Falls if they wanted the "boonies." Now, the former is an urban center on its own right and the latter is home to the likes of Saudi princes. In the past, D.C. might have been a swamp, but it was a small swamp, with the swampiness rapidly disappearing as it radiated outward into Virginia. Now it is a mega urban area with massive tentacles running across nearby Virginia and Maryland counties and beyond (and Virginia was affected more due to its pro-growth and pro-business environment).
3. Massive demographic change. I don't think I have to explain this here. What had been a very white area (with a few sprinkles of blacks and pockets of strongly Republican-leaning Vietnamese and Koreans) has become increasingly inundated by Indians, various Muslim groups, and Hispanics, all of who vote heavily Democrat. There are now real estate developments in Loudoun County (!) that are 60-70% Indian.
4. Change in NoVA-RoVA balance. There was a time when the population of NoVA wasn't so huge that a state-wide candidate had to be competitive most everywhere in the state. That is no longer the case. A Democrat can win the population-rich NoVA and Tidewater and lose just about everywhere else and still win state-wide races. One can now win just a few counties and ignore the rest to control the state.
5. The education gap. The region now boasts a hyper-educated (or -credentialed) populace that has done relatively well in the recent years of globalization, mass immigration, and automation. Trumpism was never going to be a big success in the region the way it has been in the Rust Belt. This is not a highly ideological or "nationalist" area. People here are result-oriented, and frankly the president and the Republicans have not delivered anything yet (on the contrary, they have been scared by the talk about restricting mortgage and local tax deductions - this is a high real estate price and local tax area).Replies: @Ed, @Anonymous, @Berty, @midtown, @Anonymous, @Nico, @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous
A law-school classmate and friend of mine, from back in the day, was just elected as the first (openly) lesbian mayor of Seattle.
"Ninety-two years later, Seattle is about to have a new woman mayor," Durkan said, according to the Seattle Times.
"Just imagine what they're going to blame on me."
"Donald Trump, keep your hands off Seattle," she said.Replies: @Olorin
More important than the governor's race was the control for the state legislature in Virginia. And it looks pretty bad for the Republican Party on that score right now - the control of the House of Delegates might flip after the recounts. A "transgender" and a self-declared socialist were among those who became delegates.
Wait?! They traded a pedophile for a lesbian?!
Did they have to give up a draft pick to get the deal?
Hillary beat Trump in Virginia by 5% in 2016. Turnout was very high there at around 73%.
VA RINOs called Trumpster Corey Stewart “a walking nightmare,” but he almost beat Open Borders fanatic Ed Gillespie in the 2017 GOP Gov. primary (Gillespie barely won : 44%-43%).
Gillespie had to tone down his Open Border craziness after such a close shave but he would up losing bigly yesterday to the wishy-washy Dem, 45%-54%.
Republican voters made up only 31% of the overall turnout yesterday – – – the lowest GOP turnout since 1996 in Virginia. Republican voters everywhere have had enough of RINOs.
Nearby DC seems to have gobbled up VA, once a deep red state. VA is well on the way to becoming True Blue forever, thanks to federal government bloat and the Immigration Act of 1965. Virginia will probably become the next “sanctuary state.”
https://youtu.be/IiJ_TFC0A8w
But I hear that Ole Harv's favorite nephew is thinking about taking over the studio and doing his uncle proud for the Dems. Isn't there a family tradition just begging to be carried over into the next generation?HARVEY WEINSTEIN'S NEPHEW THINKS : That half-Pakistani, half-Italian chick sure looks absolutely delicious. I think I'll ask her up to my hotel room and let her watch me take a shower and then I'll put her spine out of place, whether she likes it or not!
$18B goes a long way.
Music to his ears.
And Trump sticks it to them:
Trump Declares “National Day for the Victims of Communism.”
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/11/07/national-day-victims-communism
Liars of the scamming “Holocau$t Industry” go crazy:
https://www.salon.com/2017/11/07/trumps-national-day-for-the-victims-of-communism-is-opposite-of-holocaust-statement/
Trump needs to step up
https://mobile.twitter.com/Carrasquillo/status/928073015950217216
The cucks are out in force.
Spencer likely accounted for thousands of Democrat votes that otherwise would have stayed home, and a decent share of "moderates" that would have voted GOP but switched.
In the likely event the statues get demo'd, I doubt it ends with anything but a whimper.
He did almost everything possible to spike the Dem base turnout.Replies: @Berty, @eah, @Opinionator, @notanon
I’m glad to see moderate, open border GOP candidates lose.
And the “I don’t see race” conservatives are from yesteryear.
We are living in new times.
I posted a comment before that massive non-white immigration has made winning elections in VA very difficult for the GOP (perhaps also a general dependence on government jobs/money — eg nearby DC voted 90+% for HRC) — without aggressively and uncompromisingly addressing immigration, it is only a matter of time for the rest of the country.
https://twitter.com/westland_will/status/928115781618900992
https://twitter.com/westland_will/status/928115781618900992Replies: @eah
No crackdown on illegal immigration. No end to DACA. No end to Obamacare. No pro-gun laws. All I have seen are saber-rattling overseas and the prospect of another tax cut. My family and I stand to gain from the tax cut (judging from the details being discussed), but another tax cut is NOT the reason we voted for him.Replies: @Lagertha
The gay mayor of Seattle just resigned due to sexual abuse allegations.
Yup, Northam had to be whisked away mid-speech by his security. He and the Democrats may have a difficult time governing as technocratic centrists (the kinds of pols who do well in Northern Virginia) if there is any significant “activist” rebellion within their party.
More important than the governor’s race was the control for the state legislature in Virginia. And it looks pretty bad for the Republican Party on that score right now – the control of the House of Delegates might flip after the recounts. A “transgender” and a self-declared socialist were among those who became delegates.
5 years ago I drove through the neighborhood I had gone to elementary school in. The school was all white then but as I drove down the familiar streets in Fairfax it looked the UN general assembly had moved in.
The Virginia GOP used to be able to pull off gubernatorial wins because the elections were in odd numbered years and sitting governors could not run for re-election. That limited Democrat turnout. I had hoped Clinton’s draining the DNC coffers would keep the Dems from turning out their underclass vote but there are so many third world immigrants in Virginia and McCauliffe may have ‘rehabilitated’ enough black felons that Virginia is now forever blue unless Fairfax, Arlington and Alexandria can be hived off into the ‘new state’ of Columbia/Washington.
re: shooting in texas, Wilson County
pretty amazing that a mostly white area (?), almost no one in the congregation of 50 or so had a firearm. This belies the redneck-gunrack stereotype.
Tx is pretty liberal (ha, ha) about carrying long guns and is “open carry” for handguns.
In the end, some one who actually believed that the 2nd amendment applied to him (not the mentally ill perp.) was around and likely prevented another Vegas.
In Virginia, until a few years, ago, open-carry was mandatory (if carrying a handgun) at ABC establishments! (Now one can concealed-carry at such establishments, but still cannot consume alcohol while doing so in public.) Virginia also requires "training" for conceal-carry permit, but that training can be online gun safety course. It is waved for LE and MIL (or former LE/MIL). Virginia also has a local gun advocacy group (the Virginia Citizens Defense League) that is probably the best state-level pro-gun group in the country. It's effective that it was able to extract a pro-gun measure from Terry McAuliffe, the former Clinton bagman and the outgoing governor.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
Surprised the GOP lost three legislative seats in Georgia though. Somebody better lose their job over that blunder.Replies: @Twinkie, @Anonymous
“NoVA” is a relatively large region, and your statement is over-broad. For example, Loudoun County was, for most of its history, a conservative pastoral county and couldn’t be more different than, say, Arlington or the City of Alexandria.
It’s, of course, not surprising that the counties/cities adjacent to D.C. went heavily for the Democrats, but what’s a bit surprising is how badly the Republicans did in the outer-suburbs and exurbs that have been their bedrock. I think what’s happening (and have happened) is as follows:
1. Suburbanization of exurbs. Remember when GW Bush won and was re-elected? The key to Republican victory was the exurb – one shell-shocked Democratic vote-getter compared the massive rise of Republican exurban voters to zombie herds. He said, “We didn’t realize there were that many voters in the exurbs. They just kept coming, coming, and coming to the polls.”
Well, now those exurbs have become suburbs, full of migrants from both outside the country and from places such as New York and New Jersey, and are trending strongly for the Democrats. The writing, so to speak, was on the wall when the Loudoun County school system became mired in the “gay penguin” book controversy a few years ago. That would have been unthinkable twenty years ago.
2. Population relocation/growth. Not only has the region experienced a dramatic growth of foreign populations (especially Hispanics, Indians, and Muslims), it has received a large infusion of population from the Northeast and California as the region’s economy has grown massively. At first, the growth was almost entirely powered by government contracting, but now the area has become a huge tech hub. And while this has been a boon for the region’s businesses (car mechanics routinely make $100,000+ a year and family-run HVAC or landscaping companies gross millions of dollars a year), it has completely altered the cultural landscape and social fabric of the area.
There was a time, not long ago, when commuters to D.C. from Fairfax County chose McLean for home if they desired the traditional bedroom suburb or Great Falls if they wanted the “boonies.” Now, the former is an urban center on its own right and the latter is home to the likes of Saudi princes. In the past, D.C. might have been a swamp, but it was a small swamp, with the swampiness rapidly disappearing as it radiated outward into Virginia. Now it is a mega urban area with massive tentacles running across nearby Virginia and Maryland counties and beyond (and Virginia was affected more due to its pro-growth and pro-business environment).
3. Massive demographic change. I don’t think I have to explain this here. What had been a very white area (with a few sprinkles of blacks and pockets of strongly Republican-leaning Vietnamese and Koreans) has become increasingly inundated by Indians, various Muslim groups, and Hispanics, all of who vote heavily Democrat. There are now real estate developments in Loudoun County (!) that are 60-70% Indian.
4. Change in NoVA-RoVA balance. There was a time when the population of NoVA wasn’t so huge that a state-wide candidate had to be competitive most everywhere in the state. That is no longer the case. A Democrat can win the population-rich NoVA and Tidewater and lose just about everywhere else and still win state-wide races. One can now win just a few counties and ignore the rest to control the state.
5. The education gap. The region now boasts a hyper-educated (or -credentialed) populace that has done relatively well in the recent years of globalization, mass immigration, and automation. Trumpism was never going to be a big success in the region the way it has been in the Rust Belt. This is not a highly ideological or “nationalist” area. People here are result-oriented, and frankly the president and the Republicans have not delivered anything yet (on the contrary, they have been scared by the talk about restricting mortgage and local tax deductions – this is a high real estate price and local tax area).
Some of that is due to legitimate business growth in places like McLean, e.g., USAir moving there. But many other businesses are parasites on the federal beast.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-man-snapped-woman-apos-183022156.html
pretty amazing that a mostly white area (?), almost no one in the congregation of 50 or so had a firearm. This belies the redneck-gunrack stereotype.
Tx is pretty liberal (ha, ha) about carrying long guns and is "open carry" for handguns.
In the end, some one who actually believed that the 2nd amendment applied to him (not the mentally ill perp.) was around and likely prevented another Vegas.Replies: @Twinkie
Actually Texas, contrary to its reputation, had pretty restrictive gun laws until quite recently. There was no open-carrying of handguns and concealed-carry permit required training.
In Virginia, until a few years, ago, open-carry was mandatory (if carrying a handgun) at ABC establishments! (Now one can concealed-carry at such establishments, but still cannot consume alcohol while doing so in public.) Virginia also requires “training” for conceal-carry permit, but that training can be online gun safety course. It is waved for LE and MIL (or former LE/MIL). Virginia also has a local gun advocacy group (the Virginia Citizens Defense League) that is probably the best state-level pro-gun group in the country. It’s effective that it was able to extract a pro-gun measure from Terry McAuliffe, the former Clinton bagman and the outgoing governor.
My mother's cousin, like her, grew up in Queens. He ran a handful of urban convenience stores in Texas in the days before the Killeen massacre, and carried openly because concealed was, until then, illegal. Back home in NYC, he might have had to pull strings, but it was doable.
The media will make a huge deal about this win neglecting to mention the republicans have only won 1 statewide race in 9 years. The state has the perfect demographic stew for Dems. It’s 20% Black but more importantly it has loads of white college grads and govt workers. This keeps the GOP white vote down, they still win it at 60% of vote. However in VA GOP needs white vote at around 65%.
Gillepsie actually outperformed Trump in Trump counties. He just got killed in NoVa. Lorton is now a mini New Delhi good luck winning there.
Dems can celebrate their victory and no one does losing better than the GOP. Look for some over reactions on their part but the fundamentals of our politics hasn’t changed.
I agree wholeheartedly. I had a pretty low bar for the president, and he has not delivered anything, not even the semblance of anything he promised.
No crackdown on illegal immigration. No end to DACA. No end to Obamacare. No pro-gun laws. All I have seen are saber-rattling overseas and the prospect of another tax cut. My family and I stand to gain from the tax cut (judging from the details being discussed), but another tax cut is NOT the reason we voted for him.
It's, of course, not surprising that the counties/cities adjacent to D.C. went heavily for the Democrats, but what's a bit surprising is how badly the Republicans did in the outer-suburbs and exurbs that have been their bedrock. I think what's happening (and have happened) is as follows:
1. Suburbanization of exurbs. Remember when GW Bush won and was re-elected? The key to Republican victory was the exurb - one shell-shocked Democratic vote-getter compared the massive rise of Republican exurban voters to zombie herds. He said, "We didn't realize there were that many voters in the exurbs. They just kept coming, coming, and coming to the polls."
Well, now those exurbs have become suburbs, full of migrants from both outside the country and from places such as New York and New Jersey, and are trending strongly for the Democrats. The writing, so to speak, was on the wall when the Loudoun County school system became mired in the "gay penguin" book controversy a few years ago. That would have been unthinkable twenty years ago.
2. Population relocation/growth. Not only has the region experienced a dramatic growth of foreign populations (especially Hispanics, Indians, and Muslims), it has received a large infusion of population from the Northeast and California as the region's economy has grown massively. At first, the growth was almost entirely powered by government contracting, but now the area has become a huge tech hub. And while this has been a boon for the region's businesses (car mechanics routinely make $100,000+ a year and family-run HVAC or landscaping companies gross millions of dollars a year), it has completely altered the cultural landscape and social fabric of the area.
There was a time, not long ago, when commuters to D.C. from Fairfax County chose McLean for home if they desired the traditional bedroom suburb or Great Falls if they wanted the "boonies." Now, the former is an urban center on its own right and the latter is home to the likes of Saudi princes. In the past, D.C. might have been a swamp, but it was a small swamp, with the swampiness rapidly disappearing as it radiated outward into Virginia. Now it is a mega urban area with massive tentacles running across nearby Virginia and Maryland counties and beyond (and Virginia was affected more due to its pro-growth and pro-business environment).
3. Massive demographic change. I don't think I have to explain this here. What had been a very white area (with a few sprinkles of blacks and pockets of strongly Republican-leaning Vietnamese and Koreans) has become increasingly inundated by Indians, various Muslim groups, and Hispanics, all of who vote heavily Democrat. There are now real estate developments in Loudoun County (!) that are 60-70% Indian.
4. Change in NoVA-RoVA balance. There was a time when the population of NoVA wasn't so huge that a state-wide candidate had to be competitive most everywhere in the state. That is no longer the case. A Democrat can win the population-rich NoVA and Tidewater and lose just about everywhere else and still win state-wide races. One can now win just a few counties and ignore the rest to control the state.
5. The education gap. The region now boasts a hyper-educated (or -credentialed) populace that has done relatively well in the recent years of globalization, mass immigration, and automation. Trumpism was never going to be a big success in the region the way it has been in the Rust Belt. This is not a highly ideological or "nationalist" area. People here are result-oriented, and frankly the president and the Republicans have not delivered anything yet (on the contrary, they have been scared by the talk about restricting mortgage and local tax deductions - this is a high real estate price and local tax area).Replies: @Ed, @Anonymous, @Berty, @midtown, @Anonymous, @Nico, @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous
Excellent post. Folks also forget that NoVA is a mini Silicon Valley. The Dulles Corridor has the 4th largest commercial footprint in the country. In recent years major companies such as Nestlé have relocated here. Verizon has a major office here and they own AOL & Yahoo. Amazon & Oracle have a significant presence here. Lots of consultants in govt, IT. At my job the consultant teams are so heavily Indian that they have 2 to 3 cliques and occupy a huge swath of our lunch area.
I fear the GOP will lose both houses of Congress, they really don’t get it.
Gillepsie actually outperformed Trump in Trump counties. He just got killed in NoVa. Lorton is now a mini New Delhi good luck winning there.
Dems can celebrate their victory and no one does losing better than the GOP. Look for some over reactions on their part but the fundamentals of our politics hasn’t changed.
https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/928109869114253312Replies: @Maj. Kong
Our choice is partition or repatriation.
The urbanized areas of Virginia, where (naturally) most of its people live, are chock-full of government employees and third-world immigrants, with increasingly significant overlap among those two groups as well. It’s done, it’s over, it’s going down with the rest of the ship.
It's, of course, not surprising that the counties/cities adjacent to D.C. went heavily for the Democrats, but what's a bit surprising is how badly the Republicans did in the outer-suburbs and exurbs that have been their bedrock. I think what's happening (and have happened) is as follows:
1. Suburbanization of exurbs. Remember when GW Bush won and was re-elected? The key to Republican victory was the exurb - one shell-shocked Democratic vote-getter compared the massive rise of Republican exurban voters to zombie herds. He said, "We didn't realize there were that many voters in the exurbs. They just kept coming, coming, and coming to the polls."
Well, now those exurbs have become suburbs, full of migrants from both outside the country and from places such as New York and New Jersey, and are trending strongly for the Democrats. The writing, so to speak, was on the wall when the Loudoun County school system became mired in the "gay penguin" book controversy a few years ago. That would have been unthinkable twenty years ago.
2. Population relocation/growth. Not only has the region experienced a dramatic growth of foreign populations (especially Hispanics, Indians, and Muslims), it has received a large infusion of population from the Northeast and California as the region's economy has grown massively. At first, the growth was almost entirely powered by government contracting, but now the area has become a huge tech hub. And while this has been a boon for the region's businesses (car mechanics routinely make $100,000+ a year and family-run HVAC or landscaping companies gross millions of dollars a year), it has completely altered the cultural landscape and social fabric of the area.
There was a time, not long ago, when commuters to D.C. from Fairfax County chose McLean for home if they desired the traditional bedroom suburb or Great Falls if they wanted the "boonies." Now, the former is an urban center on its own right and the latter is home to the likes of Saudi princes. In the past, D.C. might have been a swamp, but it was a small swamp, with the swampiness rapidly disappearing as it radiated outward into Virginia. Now it is a mega urban area with massive tentacles running across nearby Virginia and Maryland counties and beyond (and Virginia was affected more due to its pro-growth and pro-business environment).
3. Massive demographic change. I don't think I have to explain this here. What had been a very white area (with a few sprinkles of blacks and pockets of strongly Republican-leaning Vietnamese and Koreans) has become increasingly inundated by Indians, various Muslim groups, and Hispanics, all of who vote heavily Democrat. There are now real estate developments in Loudoun County (!) that are 60-70% Indian.
4. Change in NoVA-RoVA balance. There was a time when the population of NoVA wasn't so huge that a state-wide candidate had to be competitive most everywhere in the state. That is no longer the case. A Democrat can win the population-rich NoVA and Tidewater and lose just about everywhere else and still win state-wide races. One can now win just a few counties and ignore the rest to control the state.
5. The education gap. The region now boasts a hyper-educated (or -credentialed) populace that has done relatively well in the recent years of globalization, mass immigration, and automation. Trumpism was never going to be a big success in the region the way it has been in the Rust Belt. This is not a highly ideological or "nationalist" area. People here are result-oriented, and frankly the president and the Republicans have not delivered anything yet (on the contrary, they have been scared by the talk about restricting mortgage and local tax deductions - this is a high real estate price and local tax area).Replies: @Ed, @Anonymous, @Berty, @midtown, @Anonymous, @Nico, @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous
The only thing I’d add is that the CSA/CMSA (Baltimore-Washington) is now the nation’s fourth largest consolidated metro area (approx 10 million people) and poised to overtake Chicago as #3. (It likely has happened already.) Few people realize what a colossus the nation’s capital region has become. Used to live there. I don’t miss it one bit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_statistical_area
The percentage growth figure given at that link is somewhat misleading because the growth in the DC metro is sky-high but that of the Baltimore component completely stagnant.
https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/928063670457905152Replies: @Maj. Kong, @AndrewR, @Hail
Insert Morgan Freeman “he’s right you know”
Spencer likely accounted for thousands of Democrat votes that otherwise would have stayed home, and a decent share of “moderates” that would have voted GOP but switched.
In the likely event the statues get demo’d, I doubt it ends with anything but a whimper.
He did almost everything possible to spike the Dem base turnout.
Someone who led a Nazi salute to Trump after the election, who despite being infamous seems to have the money to travel all over the place and engage in various schemes and rackets, who grabs attention by spouting the most insulting and/or inflammatory rhetoric he can only to disappear shortly afterward.
Connect the dots.Replies: @Opinionator, @Anonymous, @Jack Hanson
Who wants to be "ethnically cleansed"? Who wants their friends and family to be ethnically cleansed? Who wants Nazis in towns like Charlottesville?
Across Virginia raw votes cast were up 16% versus 2013. Charlottesville saw a 31% increase.
https://www.twitter.com/Redistrict/status/928119943081746432
Why hasn't anyone taken Spencer aside and told him he needs to take a long sabbatical from politics?Replies: @Dissident, @Maj. Kong
low Dem turnout lulls GOPe into thinking they can get away with "one more year" of cheap labor - hopefully they're spooked
It's, of course, not surprising that the counties/cities adjacent to D.C. went heavily for the Democrats, but what's a bit surprising is how badly the Republicans did in the outer-suburbs and exurbs that have been their bedrock. I think what's happening (and have happened) is as follows:
1. Suburbanization of exurbs. Remember when GW Bush won and was re-elected? The key to Republican victory was the exurb - one shell-shocked Democratic vote-getter compared the massive rise of Republican exurban voters to zombie herds. He said, "We didn't realize there were that many voters in the exurbs. They just kept coming, coming, and coming to the polls."
Well, now those exurbs have become suburbs, full of migrants from both outside the country and from places such as New York and New Jersey, and are trending strongly for the Democrats. The writing, so to speak, was on the wall when the Loudoun County school system became mired in the "gay penguin" book controversy a few years ago. That would have been unthinkable twenty years ago.
2. Population relocation/growth. Not only has the region experienced a dramatic growth of foreign populations (especially Hispanics, Indians, and Muslims), it has received a large infusion of population from the Northeast and California as the region's economy has grown massively. At first, the growth was almost entirely powered by government contracting, but now the area has become a huge tech hub. And while this has been a boon for the region's businesses (car mechanics routinely make $100,000+ a year and family-run HVAC or landscaping companies gross millions of dollars a year), it has completely altered the cultural landscape and social fabric of the area.
There was a time, not long ago, when commuters to D.C. from Fairfax County chose McLean for home if they desired the traditional bedroom suburb or Great Falls if they wanted the "boonies." Now, the former is an urban center on its own right and the latter is home to the likes of Saudi princes. In the past, D.C. might have been a swamp, but it was a small swamp, with the swampiness rapidly disappearing as it radiated outward into Virginia. Now it is a mega urban area with massive tentacles running across nearby Virginia and Maryland counties and beyond (and Virginia was affected more due to its pro-growth and pro-business environment).
3. Massive demographic change. I don't think I have to explain this here. What had been a very white area (with a few sprinkles of blacks and pockets of strongly Republican-leaning Vietnamese and Koreans) has become increasingly inundated by Indians, various Muslim groups, and Hispanics, all of who vote heavily Democrat. There are now real estate developments in Loudoun County (!) that are 60-70% Indian.
4. Change in NoVA-RoVA balance. There was a time when the population of NoVA wasn't so huge that a state-wide candidate had to be competitive most everywhere in the state. That is no longer the case. A Democrat can win the population-rich NoVA and Tidewater and lose just about everywhere else and still win state-wide races. One can now win just a few counties and ignore the rest to control the state.
5. The education gap. The region now boasts a hyper-educated (or -credentialed) populace that has done relatively well in the recent years of globalization, mass immigration, and automation. Trumpism was never going to be a big success in the region the way it has been in the Rust Belt. This is not a highly ideological or "nationalist" area. People here are result-oriented, and frankly the president and the Republicans have not delivered anything yet (on the contrary, they have been scared by the talk about restricting mortgage and local tax deductions - this is a high real estate price and local tax area).Replies: @Ed, @Anonymous, @Berty, @midtown, @Anonymous, @Nico, @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous
That’s a whole lot of text I’m not going to read.
Just as this should be a wakeup call about what mass immigration is doing to GOP electoral prospects, it also should be a wakeup call about the over-credentialed.
Virginia reflects the country at large. Looking at a political map, Virginia is a RED state except for a few densely populated urban areas that vote BLUE: Arlington, Fairfax, Loudoun counties and the area to the east of Williamsburg.
As a generalization, the urban areas are populated with expats from Yankeedom working in something related to the Swamp. One of the more popular fish restaurants in Loudoun county specializes in preparing fish dishes … “just like on Long Island.” The Yankees queue up for an hour waiting for a table. It reminds them of home.
In what way?
I think it’s hilarious how everyone is crowing about how this is a defeat for Trump considering he didn’t even win Virginia. Or NJ or any of the places where the Ds won (except for some random legislative seats).
Personally I still think they have a good chance of gaining seats in the Senate but Barbara Comstock in the House is probably a lost cause.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/danica-roem-will-be-vas-first-openly-transgender-elected-official-after-unseating-conservative-robert-g-marshall-in-house-race/2017/11/07/d534bdde-c0af-11e7-959c-fe2b598d8c00_story.html
So now we have a situation, in which a mentally ill person who panders to illegal foreign migrants has been elected to public office. I weep for our country and our Christian civilization.
That is hardly a first in American history, unfortunately.Replies: @Twinkie
Spencer likely accounted for thousands of Democrat votes that otherwise would have stayed home, and a decent share of "moderates" that would have voted GOP but switched.
In the likely event the statues get demo'd, I doubt it ends with anything but a whimper.
He did almost everything possible to spike the Dem base turnout.Replies: @Berty, @eah, @Opinionator, @notanon
Spencer has ties to the Bush family. Contrary to some of the idiots here I had him pegged for a plant from the very beginning.
Someone who led a Nazi salute to Trump after the election, who despite being infamous seems to have the money to travel all over the place and engage in various schemes and rackets, who grabs attention by spouting the most insulting and/or inflammatory rhetoric he can only to disappear shortly afterward.
Connect the dots.
Weev has Spencer's number.Replies: @notanon
According to polls the Republicans are getting killed because of healthcare, not immigration. It is a shame because there was no good political reason Trump had to go along with the Republicans on their spite-driven quest to destroy Obamacare. A true populist would try to help the middle class get premiums down, not just smash everything. Guns are also costing Republicans in blue and purple states. The recent shootings have helped Democrats because the Democrats at least can offer a solution. It may not be a good solution but the Republicans just stand around looking foolish, offering at best “let’s have more guns” which strikes most people as idiotic or “thoughts and prayers” which is quickly becoming a meme for political cowardice.
I guess one man's 'spite' is another's principle.
The truth is, massive immigration of unskilled (and therefore of low economic value) non-whites has helped destroy unions and employment-based healthcare in America for non-professional occupations -- Obamacare is nothing more than a racial spoils system extended to healthcare: productive Whites and Asians are forced to subsidize the healthcare for a large and growing population of economically marginal people, many of whom are among the most obese and unhealthy in America (both Blacks and Hispanics are more likely to be obese than Whites or Asians) -- this is completely unsustainable, not to mention unjust: another aspect of using government coercion to force Whites to subsidize their dispossession.
Whether it was smart of Trump to immediately make repeal of Obamacare a political issue is another question.Replies: @eah, @eah, @Jonathan Mason
Nothing has been smashed yet. The Republicans raised untold billions for the job but couldn't buy a sledge hammer. Or perhaps they lacked the muscle to raise it.
From what it looks like, Obamacare will, apart from being costlier, also fail in providing care as insurance providers withdraw in increasing haste. A grand fiasco. Smash it good.
So now we have a situation, in which a mentally ill person who panders to illegal foreign migrants has been elected to public office
That is hardly a first in American history, unfortunately.
At least the psycho Jennifer Schwartz Berky was defeated….although it’s amazing that she held 43% of vote
It's, of course, not surprising that the counties/cities adjacent to D.C. went heavily for the Democrats, but what's a bit surprising is how badly the Republicans did in the outer-suburbs and exurbs that have been their bedrock. I think what's happening (and have happened) is as follows:
1. Suburbanization of exurbs. Remember when GW Bush won and was re-elected? The key to Republican victory was the exurb - one shell-shocked Democratic vote-getter compared the massive rise of Republican exurban voters to zombie herds. He said, "We didn't realize there were that many voters in the exurbs. They just kept coming, coming, and coming to the polls."
Well, now those exurbs have become suburbs, full of migrants from both outside the country and from places such as New York and New Jersey, and are trending strongly for the Democrats. The writing, so to speak, was on the wall when the Loudoun County school system became mired in the "gay penguin" book controversy a few years ago. That would have been unthinkable twenty years ago.
2. Population relocation/growth. Not only has the region experienced a dramatic growth of foreign populations (especially Hispanics, Indians, and Muslims), it has received a large infusion of population from the Northeast and California as the region's economy has grown massively. At first, the growth was almost entirely powered by government contracting, but now the area has become a huge tech hub. And while this has been a boon for the region's businesses (car mechanics routinely make $100,000+ a year and family-run HVAC or landscaping companies gross millions of dollars a year), it has completely altered the cultural landscape and social fabric of the area.
There was a time, not long ago, when commuters to D.C. from Fairfax County chose McLean for home if they desired the traditional bedroom suburb or Great Falls if they wanted the "boonies." Now, the former is an urban center on its own right and the latter is home to the likes of Saudi princes. In the past, D.C. might have been a swamp, but it was a small swamp, with the swampiness rapidly disappearing as it radiated outward into Virginia. Now it is a mega urban area with massive tentacles running across nearby Virginia and Maryland counties and beyond (and Virginia was affected more due to its pro-growth and pro-business environment).
3. Massive demographic change. I don't think I have to explain this here. What had been a very white area (with a few sprinkles of blacks and pockets of strongly Republican-leaning Vietnamese and Koreans) has become increasingly inundated by Indians, various Muslim groups, and Hispanics, all of who vote heavily Democrat. There are now real estate developments in Loudoun County (!) that are 60-70% Indian.
4. Change in NoVA-RoVA balance. There was a time when the population of NoVA wasn't so huge that a state-wide candidate had to be competitive most everywhere in the state. That is no longer the case. A Democrat can win the population-rich NoVA and Tidewater and lose just about everywhere else and still win state-wide races. One can now win just a few counties and ignore the rest to control the state.
5. The education gap. The region now boasts a hyper-educated (or -credentialed) populace that has done relatively well in the recent years of globalization, mass immigration, and automation. Trumpism was never going to be a big success in the region the way it has been in the Rust Belt. This is not a highly ideological or "nationalist" area. People here are result-oriented, and frankly the president and the Republicans have not delivered anything yet (on the contrary, they have been scared by the talk about restricting mortgage and local tax deductions - this is a high real estate price and local tax area).Replies: @Ed, @Anonymous, @Berty, @midtown, @Anonymous, @Nico, @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous
Good post, and all of what you wrote is true. But even in downstate Va., there wasn’t much support for Gillespie. He won localities, but not by as much as usual for a Republican.
Spencer likely accounted for thousands of Democrat votes that otherwise would have stayed home, and a decent share of "moderates" that would have voted GOP but switched.
In the likely event the statues get demo'd, I doubt it ends with anything but a whimper.
He did almost everything possible to spike the Dem base turnout.Replies: @Berty, @eah, @Opinionator, @notanon
He did almost everything possible to spike the Dem base turnout.
So what exactly did Spencer do? — there was supposed to be a rally (permitted by a court) in a public park, and Spencer was scheduled to speak at this rally — the authorities cancelled the rally at the last minute, and in the aftermath of this, ie during the evacuation of the park, there was some violence, virtually all of it initiated by ‘antifa’ (their presence was the reason the rally was cancelled — ‘mob veto’), and during the chaos (per above caused by the authoriteis) a morbidly obese woman died of a heart attack — also a helicopter crashed, which was not the fault of Spencer or anyone else associated with the rally.
All of the above was then dutifully grossly misrepresented by the media.
So the Alt-Right cannot have rallies or any public events because this might “spike the Dem base turnout”?
Honestly, just get lost.
He and Jason Kessler did nothing about the fed informants waving Swastikas.
The rally occurred during an election year in an extremely important state, and it was foolish to think that McAullife wouldn't use the National Guard presence nefariously to ensure the election of a successor from his party.
The media will always misrepresent us. We have to work around it, not form a circular firing squad.
Charlottesville was the largest defeat suffered by the Alt-Right in its recent history.Replies: @Hail
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/seattle-mayor-ed-murray-resigns-after-fifth-child-sex-abuse-allegation/
With cucks like you neither will ever happen.
their spite-driven quest to destroy Obamacare
I guess one man’s ‘spite’ is another’s principle.
The truth is, massive immigration of unskilled (and therefore of low economic value) non-whites has helped destroy unions and employment-based healthcare in America for non-professional occupations — Obamacare is nothing more than a racial spoils system extended to healthcare: productive Whites and Asians are forced to subsidize the healthcare for a large and growing population of economically marginal people, many of whom are among the most obese and unhealthy in America (both Blacks and Hispanics are more likely to be obese than Whites or Asians) — this is completely unsustainable, not to mention unjust: another aspect of using government coercion to force Whites to subsidize their dispossession.
Whether it was smart of Trump to immediately make repeal of Obamacare a political issue is another question.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOE2WopV4AA3XAF.jpg
Does anyone seriously believe people like this create enough wealth to pay for their own healthcare?
http://media.breitbart.com/media/2015/07/ap_ap-photo592-e1437959845108-640x435.jpg
“A true populist would try to help the middle class get premiums down, not just smash everything.”
Nothing has been smashed yet. The Republicans raised untold billions for the job but couldn’t buy a sledge hammer. Or perhaps they lacked the muscle to raise it.
From what it looks like, Obamacare will, apart from being costlier, also fail in providing care as insurance providers withdraw in increasing haste. A grand fiasco. Smash it good.
I guess one man's 'spite' is another's principle.
The truth is, massive immigration of unskilled (and therefore of low economic value) non-whites has helped destroy unions and employment-based healthcare in America for non-professional occupations -- Obamacare is nothing more than a racial spoils system extended to healthcare: productive Whites and Asians are forced to subsidize the healthcare for a large and growing population of economically marginal people, many of whom are among the most obese and unhealthy in America (both Blacks and Hispanics are more likely to be obese than Whites or Asians) -- this is completely unsustainable, not to mention unjust: another aspect of using government coercion to force Whites to subsidize their dispossession.
Whether it was smart of Trump to immediately make repeal of Obamacare a political issue is another question.Replies: @eah, @eah, @Jonathan Mason
using government coercion to force Whites to subsidize their dispossession
It just seems that things are getting more polarized. Thus, we see Moore winning in Alabama and a transgender state rep in Virginia.
From what I’ve heard, Gillespie wasn’t “Trumpist” (Trumpian?) enough for the Trump voters or undecided voters who can lean Trump. Add to this mix that the Dems need to go in overdrive due to their recent election loss, and it’s not surprising that they mobilized more in an already Blue state.
There was an article on FiveThirtyEight (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-virginia-governors-race-might-not-be-predictive-but-it-could-really-matter/) which brought up an interesting point:
However, Gillespie lost by a large margin (9 points), so it’s that if the GOP wants to start winning elections, they need to back non-establishment candidates. I think the loss was so large specifically because Gillespie was too establishment, turning off Trump voters + potential undecided Trump voters. Now, I doubt that any Republican could have won in Virginia, but I suspect a non-traditional GOP candidate could have narrowed the margin down by quite a bit.
This really seems to be the biggest takeaway: as the Dems are growing more and more radical (due to perceived radicalism on the right), so-called “moderate” candidates like Gillespie aren’t viable. While Northam had an incumbent advantage, had the Dems ran an ultra SJW, politically correct, LGBTQ+ PoC candidate, the 9 point gap would have doubled.
This 2017 VA governor race was decided back in 2013. The VA GOP gave it away when they let a clinton bagman (not even a career politician, a career party hack!) become governor.
The backstory is that VA GOP wanted establishment cuck Bill Bolling (lt gov) to be their candidate. This was arranged with some kind of backroom deal involving Gov. McDonnel. Ken Cucinnelli the (I think?) Attorney General was a tea party christian conservative type who had a ton of support from “the grassroots” and he decided to get into the race and challenge Bolling from the right. Cucinelli ended up beating out Bolling and the VA GOP establishment got butthurt and decided to only halfheartedly support Cucinelli in the general, because he wasn’t their guy.
Rather than pull out all the stops to defeat McCaulife (ignoring a cardinal rule of politics, that one must never allow a pure political operative from the other side to gain official power), the VA GOP let McCaulife get elected with literally only two goals on his mind: deliver VA to the dems in 2016 and turn it reliably blue thereafter.
VA GOP knew that this is what would happen, but they were more concerned with retaining control over the party than with winning an election, even against an opponent whose explicit goal was to make sure they could never win statewide office ever again. They were happy to be the permanent opposition party.
VA is done, until the rest of VA starts shooting at NoVA.
Also quick note I read on Vox Day’s comment section, if fairfax county disappeared, Gillespie would have won. If Fairfax County had the demographics of even as recent as 2009, Gillespie would have won. The demographic swing in NoVA happened that fast.
Why did it take so long?
Spencer likely accounted for thousands of Democrat votes that otherwise would have stayed home, and a decent share of "moderates" that would have voted GOP but switched.
In the likely event the statues get demo'd, I doubt it ends with anything but a whimper.
He did almost everything possible to spike the Dem base turnout.Replies: @Berty, @eah, @Opinionator, @notanon
Richard Spencer continues his efforts to energize the Democratic base and drive them and moderates to turn out to vote Democrat.
Who wants to be “ethnically cleansed”? Who wants their friends and family to be ethnically cleansed? Who wants Nazis in towns like Charlottesville?
Across Virginia raw votes cast were up 16% versus 2013. Charlottesville saw a 31% increase.
Why hasn’t anyone taken Spencer aside and told him he needs to take a long sabbatical from politics?
http://2kevins.com/archives/1231
KMG said he had begun to wonder whether there might actually be something to the rumors that Spencer is an FBI plant or the like.Replies: @notanon
One irony being that Trump was in favor of single-payer universal health coverage before 2016.
Just as he used to be opposed to America’s disastrously counterproductive overseas wars, and opposed to anything resembling amnesty for illegal aliens.
He’s playing almost all of his cards wrong, which is odd for a casino mogul.
I grew up in the Eastern Shore, but made it out to NoVa enough to remember it ad mostly white, semi rural.
I went back there for work earlier this year and holy shit you could not throw a stone with out hitting a subcontinental. They’re literally everywhere.
So for anyone to pretend this is a “repudiation” of Trump is lol. Might as well claim California electing another Dem governor is a “repudiation”.
VA RINOs called Trumpster Corey Stewart "a walking nightmare," but he almost beat Open Borders fanatic Ed Gillespie in the 2017 GOP Gov. primary (Gillespie barely won : 44%-43%).
Gillespie had to tone down his Open Border craziness after such a close shave but he would up losing bigly yesterday to the wishy-washy Dem, 45%-54%.
Republican voters made up only 31% of the overall turnout yesterday - - - the lowest GOP turnout since 1996 in Virginia. Republican voters everywhere have had enough of RINOs.
Nearby DC seems to have gobbled up VA, once a deep red state. VA is well on the way to becoming True Blue forever, thanks to federal government bloat and the Immigration Act of 1965. Virginia will probably become the next "sanctuary state."Replies: @Detective Club, @Anonymous
What with all the problems Harvey Weinstein has been having lately, “VIRGINIA IS FOR ILLEGALS” has been stuck in pre-production since the tabloids blew the whistle on him.
But I hear that Ole Harv’s favorite nephew is thinking about taking over the studio and doing his uncle proud for the Dems. Isn’t there a family tradition just begging to be carried over into the next generation?
HARVEY WEINSTEIN’S NEPHEW THINKS : That half-Pakistani, half-Italian chick sure looks absolutely delicious. I think I’ll ask her up to my hotel room and let her watch me take a shower and then I’ll put her spine out of place, whether she likes it or not!
Events like the Charlottesville Setup really bring out members of the Democrat base — who would rather be murdering naive kids from the suburbs at four-o’clock in the morning.
If the Republican Party had run a Trumpist candidate for Virginia governor, results might have been different. This election was not a referendum on anything.
Democrat Phil Murphy won the governor’s race in NJ. With Democrats firmly in control of the legislature and the governor’s mansion, their two priorities are to increase taxes and legalize weed.
I expect I’ll be paying a lot more in taxes next year, but at least I’ll be too high to notice.
It's, of course, not surprising that the counties/cities adjacent to D.C. went heavily for the Democrats, but what's a bit surprising is how badly the Republicans did in the outer-suburbs and exurbs that have been their bedrock. I think what's happening (and have happened) is as follows:
1. Suburbanization of exurbs. Remember when GW Bush won and was re-elected? The key to Republican victory was the exurb - one shell-shocked Democratic vote-getter compared the massive rise of Republican exurban voters to zombie herds. He said, "We didn't realize there were that many voters in the exurbs. They just kept coming, coming, and coming to the polls."
Well, now those exurbs have become suburbs, full of migrants from both outside the country and from places such as New York and New Jersey, and are trending strongly for the Democrats. The writing, so to speak, was on the wall when the Loudoun County school system became mired in the "gay penguin" book controversy a few years ago. That would have been unthinkable twenty years ago.
2. Population relocation/growth. Not only has the region experienced a dramatic growth of foreign populations (especially Hispanics, Indians, and Muslims), it has received a large infusion of population from the Northeast and California as the region's economy has grown massively. At first, the growth was almost entirely powered by government contracting, but now the area has become a huge tech hub. And while this has been a boon for the region's businesses (car mechanics routinely make $100,000+ a year and family-run HVAC or landscaping companies gross millions of dollars a year), it has completely altered the cultural landscape and social fabric of the area.
There was a time, not long ago, when commuters to D.C. from Fairfax County chose McLean for home if they desired the traditional bedroom suburb or Great Falls if they wanted the "boonies." Now, the former is an urban center on its own right and the latter is home to the likes of Saudi princes. In the past, D.C. might have been a swamp, but it was a small swamp, with the swampiness rapidly disappearing as it radiated outward into Virginia. Now it is a mega urban area with massive tentacles running across nearby Virginia and Maryland counties and beyond (and Virginia was affected more due to its pro-growth and pro-business environment).
3. Massive demographic change. I don't think I have to explain this here. What had been a very white area (with a few sprinkles of blacks and pockets of strongly Republican-leaning Vietnamese and Koreans) has become increasingly inundated by Indians, various Muslim groups, and Hispanics, all of who vote heavily Democrat. There are now real estate developments in Loudoun County (!) that are 60-70% Indian.
4. Change in NoVA-RoVA balance. There was a time when the population of NoVA wasn't so huge that a state-wide candidate had to be competitive most everywhere in the state. That is no longer the case. A Democrat can win the population-rich NoVA and Tidewater and lose just about everywhere else and still win state-wide races. One can now win just a few counties and ignore the rest to control the state.
5. The education gap. The region now boasts a hyper-educated (or -credentialed) populace that has done relatively well in the recent years of globalization, mass immigration, and automation. Trumpism was never going to be a big success in the region the way it has been in the Rust Belt. This is not a highly ideological or "nationalist" area. People here are result-oriented, and frankly the president and the Republicans have not delivered anything yet (on the contrary, they have been scared by the talk about restricting mortgage and local tax deductions - this is a high real estate price and local tax area).Replies: @Ed, @Anonymous, @Berty, @midtown, @Anonymous, @Nico, @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous
Great analysis. But I take issue with the last part.
It’s no so much Trump & GOP vs. Dems as it is Trump vs. Uniparty. The Congressional Republicans have done was much to thwart Trump’s agenda as the Democrats.
Also, these people are not so much results oriented as they are being part of the government racket, with greater and lesser degrees of separation. Their interests are strictly in line with the interests of the racket. So, “results-oriented” might mean whatever fosters the racket. And I would say in relation to Trump the NoVA voting constituency is for status-quo and big government.
Man the Demoncrat, Never-Trumper wing of your readership are out in force on this thread.
All of the vehemence directed towards Trump here should go to the R Senate and House, the corrupt lifer “judges”, etc.
He’s one freaking Man against EVERYONE and EVERYTHING that runs this country. The swamp is very, very deep. Imagine your life today one year in from Hitlary being elected.
When he willingly signs a full blown amnesty like Reagan did I will join you.
It's, of course, not surprising that the counties/cities adjacent to D.C. went heavily for the Democrats, but what's a bit surprising is how badly the Republicans did in the outer-suburbs and exurbs that have been their bedrock. I think what's happening (and have happened) is as follows:
1. Suburbanization of exurbs. Remember when GW Bush won and was re-elected? The key to Republican victory was the exurb - one shell-shocked Democratic vote-getter compared the massive rise of Republican exurban voters to zombie herds. He said, "We didn't realize there were that many voters in the exurbs. They just kept coming, coming, and coming to the polls."
Well, now those exurbs have become suburbs, full of migrants from both outside the country and from places such as New York and New Jersey, and are trending strongly for the Democrats. The writing, so to speak, was on the wall when the Loudoun County school system became mired in the "gay penguin" book controversy a few years ago. That would have been unthinkable twenty years ago.
2. Population relocation/growth. Not only has the region experienced a dramatic growth of foreign populations (especially Hispanics, Indians, and Muslims), it has received a large infusion of population from the Northeast and California as the region's economy has grown massively. At first, the growth was almost entirely powered by government contracting, but now the area has become a huge tech hub. And while this has been a boon for the region's businesses (car mechanics routinely make $100,000+ a year and family-run HVAC or landscaping companies gross millions of dollars a year), it has completely altered the cultural landscape and social fabric of the area.
There was a time, not long ago, when commuters to D.C. from Fairfax County chose McLean for home if they desired the traditional bedroom suburb or Great Falls if they wanted the "boonies." Now, the former is an urban center on its own right and the latter is home to the likes of Saudi princes. In the past, D.C. might have been a swamp, but it was a small swamp, with the swampiness rapidly disappearing as it radiated outward into Virginia. Now it is a mega urban area with massive tentacles running across nearby Virginia and Maryland counties and beyond (and Virginia was affected more due to its pro-growth and pro-business environment).
3. Massive demographic change. I don't think I have to explain this here. What had been a very white area (with a few sprinkles of blacks and pockets of strongly Republican-leaning Vietnamese and Koreans) has become increasingly inundated by Indians, various Muslim groups, and Hispanics, all of who vote heavily Democrat. There are now real estate developments in Loudoun County (!) that are 60-70% Indian.
4. Change in NoVA-RoVA balance. There was a time when the population of NoVA wasn't so huge that a state-wide candidate had to be competitive most everywhere in the state. That is no longer the case. A Democrat can win the population-rich NoVA and Tidewater and lose just about everywhere else and still win state-wide races. One can now win just a few counties and ignore the rest to control the state.
5. The education gap. The region now boasts a hyper-educated (or -credentialed) populace that has done relatively well in the recent years of globalization, mass immigration, and automation. Trumpism was never going to be a big success in the region the way it has been in the Rust Belt. This is not a highly ideological or "nationalist" area. People here are result-oriented, and frankly the president and the Republicans have not delivered anything yet (on the contrary, they have been scared by the talk about restricting mortgage and local tax deductions - this is a high real estate price and local tax area).Replies: @Ed, @Anonymous, @Berty, @midtown, @Anonymous, @Nico, @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous
Pretty much.
Democrats will try to spin this as a defeat for Trump. The reality is that anger at Obama was running pretty high by late 2013 and if Cucinelli couldn’t win then Gillespie didn’t stand a chance now. To distill your summum: D.C./Virginia has become another case of N.Y.C./New York, with all the electoral and, soon all the societal and economic pathologies that brings.
This is what the GOP gets for phasing out the estate tax in 6 years instead of immediately.
Cliches being thrown around which are not necessarily accurate.
1) “Only NoVA is blue.” Not really. The Tidewater region is also blue, as are a lot of the suburban areas around Richmond, and pockets like Charlottesville and Roanoke. That is pretty much all of the population centers.
2) “NoVa is full of government employees.” Yes and no. That stereotype is true for Arlington and inner parts of Fairfax, but the larger region is also a mini (or not so mini) Silicon Valley, and also a major spot for corporate headquarters. The exurbs in Louden and Prince William counties extend beyond reasonable commuting distance to DC.
ED GILLESPIE IS A VILE LEPRECHAUN WHORE
The Irish are notorious for their insipid obsequiousness to the WASP /JEW ruling class.
Ed Gillespie has spent his entire political career pushing for open borders mass immigration. Gillespie has whored himself out for cash.
Ed Gillespie’s ugly Irish mug is the face of the globalized GOP ruling class.
You have to live in a bubble to believe that.
Trump lost VA and Gilespie outperformed Trump in counties where Trump won 2016. So, I’m not sure about this. The DC area is just so nonWhite and so swampy that the GOP isn’t competitive. VA is the new CA is the new NY. White outlands held hostage by the urbanites. But what that says to me is Trump is in decent shape for 2020.
We know that’s true, but every TV and newspaper is saying otherwise today. Google news is full of shilling articles. And the cuck GOP are joining right in. So it’s a pretty heavy offensive.
New Hampshire has a leprechaun rat just like Ed Gillespie. His name is Fergus Cullen and he works as a functionary for the GOP ruling class. Cullen takes cash to push open borders mass immigration.
I wrote this in 2014:
My parents have some close friends who live in the DC suburbs. He’s a retired military officer and Vietnam veteran in his early 70s. They’ve owned their home there since ca. 1980. When they bought it the neighborhood was basically 100% white. He spent ~30 years moving around the world defending his country then retired to D.C. to the home they’d held on to the entire time, in a neighborhood that had become thoroughly conquered by foreigners. They’re basically the only white people there anymore. I wonder if he ever feels like he served in not one losing war but two.
I also have a cousin who lives in NoVa. The last time we saw each other her little boy (~11) was wearing a shirt with the names of all his classmates in his “graduating” sixth grade class. Fully half the names were East Asian, Southern Asian, or Middle Eastern.
NoVa has been conquered by two groups of people, neither of which are friendly to Republicans. The first is the foreigners. The second is the employees of the government and government contractors.
Of course it doesn’t help that Republicans run candidates so radical and ridiculous (“the nation’s #1 homophobe”) that even a transgender crazy can beat them in a House of Delegates race. The ex-bf of the reporter who was murdered on live TV by a crazy black race-obsessed Obama fan also won a seat – as a Democrat.
And Ed Gillespie? I’m not even sure I care all that much that an establishment open borders buttboy can’t win. The establishment GOP basically abandoned the conservative candidate 4 years ago, who came very close to winning despite spending only about half of what McAuliffe spent. He lost by only 56,000 votes out of about 2.3 million cast. A “libertarian” candidate funded by an Obama billionaire took 146,000 votes.
You do realize what passes for a homophope today would've been considered a radical lefty 20 years ago.Replies: @Nico, @Wilkey
https://twitter.com/lorettatheprole/status/928084728959381504
Demography and debt
Mass immigration and monetary policy
I’ll keep saying it
Trump lost VA and Gilespie outperformed Trump in counties where Trump won 2016. So, I’m not sure about this. The DC area is just so nonWhite and so swampy that the GOP isn’t competitive. VA is the new CA is the new NY.
Between Donald Trump and Ed Gillespie is a whole lotta breathing room – room for a guy like, oh, Ken Cuccinelli, who is not as ridiculous and controversial as Trump but a lot more conservative than Gillespie.
Gillespie lost by 224,000 votes. Cuccinelli lost by 56,000 votes, without the financial or electoral support of lot of RINOs and with a phony libertarian candidate picking up 146,000 votes. Split the libertarian votes 70/30 in Cuccinelli’s favor and he would have won.
Virginia is still quite winnable. Also, unlike California, it is not a ridiculously high tax state that punishes conservatives with one extremist policy after another. There are a lot of really nice areas of the state where conservatively inclined individuals would be happy to live – the Shenandoah Valley, etc. The demographic war was lost in California a long time ago. Not so in Virginia.
Virginia will now likely race to raise taxes, kill the business environment, tighten gun laws, embrace sanctuary cities, and speed demographic change even further. The D.C. suburbs will politically swamp the rest of the state like in N.Y., though it's worse because the outlying parts of VA are far nicer than upstate N.Y.Replies: @Wilkey
I also have a cousin who lives in NoVa. The last time we saw each other her little boy (~11) was wearing a shirt with the names of all his classmates in his "graduating" sixth grade class. Fully half the names were East Asian, Southern Asian, or Middle Eastern.
NoVa has been conquered by two groups of people, neither of which are friendly to Republicans. The first is the foreigners. The second is the employees of the government and government contractors.
Of course it doesn't help that Republicans run candidates so radical and ridiculous ("the nation's #1 homophobe") that even a transgender crazy can beat them in a House of Delegates race. The ex-bf of the reporter who was murdered on live TV by a crazy black race-obsessed Obama fan also won a seat - as a Democrat.
And Ed Gillespie? I'm not even sure I care all that much that an establishment open borders buttboy can't win. The establishment GOP basically abandoned the conservative candidate 4 years ago, who came very close to winning despite spending only about half of what McAuliffe spent. He lost by only 56,000 votes out of about 2.3 million cast. A "libertarian" candidate funded by an Obama billionaire took 146,000 votes.Replies: @27 year old, @BenKenobi, @The preferred nomenclature is...
I’m not looking it up but I tend to doubt that Republicans put that label on him, or that he put it on himself, so it’s pretty unfair to blame him/them for that.
I know I sure don’t.
See my earlier post on the 2013 VA race. In doing so, they sealed their fate statewide.
His name was Robert Marshall and he called himself Virginia's "chief homophobe." His title, not someone else's. He lost to a tranny.Replies: @27 year old
I’m not looking it up but I tend to doubt that Republicans put that label on him, or that he put it on himself, so it’s pretty unfair to blame him/them for that.
His name was Robert Marshall and he called himself Virginia’s “chief homophobe.” His title, not someone else’s. He lost to a tranny.
It's, of course, not surprising that the counties/cities adjacent to D.C. went heavily for the Democrats, but what's a bit surprising is how badly the Republicans did in the outer-suburbs and exurbs that have been their bedrock. I think what's happening (and have happened) is as follows:
1. Suburbanization of exurbs. Remember when GW Bush won and was re-elected? The key to Republican victory was the exurb - one shell-shocked Democratic vote-getter compared the massive rise of Republican exurban voters to zombie herds. He said, "We didn't realize there were that many voters in the exurbs. They just kept coming, coming, and coming to the polls."
Well, now those exurbs have become suburbs, full of migrants from both outside the country and from places such as New York and New Jersey, and are trending strongly for the Democrats. The writing, so to speak, was on the wall when the Loudoun County school system became mired in the "gay penguin" book controversy a few years ago. That would have been unthinkable twenty years ago.
2. Population relocation/growth. Not only has the region experienced a dramatic growth of foreign populations (especially Hispanics, Indians, and Muslims), it has received a large infusion of population from the Northeast and California as the region's economy has grown massively. At first, the growth was almost entirely powered by government contracting, but now the area has become a huge tech hub. And while this has been a boon for the region's businesses (car mechanics routinely make $100,000+ a year and family-run HVAC or landscaping companies gross millions of dollars a year), it has completely altered the cultural landscape and social fabric of the area.
There was a time, not long ago, when commuters to D.C. from Fairfax County chose McLean for home if they desired the traditional bedroom suburb or Great Falls if they wanted the "boonies." Now, the former is an urban center on its own right and the latter is home to the likes of Saudi princes. In the past, D.C. might have been a swamp, but it was a small swamp, with the swampiness rapidly disappearing as it radiated outward into Virginia. Now it is a mega urban area with massive tentacles running across nearby Virginia and Maryland counties and beyond (and Virginia was affected more due to its pro-growth and pro-business environment).
3. Massive demographic change. I don't think I have to explain this here. What had been a very white area (with a few sprinkles of blacks and pockets of strongly Republican-leaning Vietnamese and Koreans) has become increasingly inundated by Indians, various Muslim groups, and Hispanics, all of who vote heavily Democrat. There are now real estate developments in Loudoun County (!) that are 60-70% Indian.
4. Change in NoVA-RoVA balance. There was a time when the population of NoVA wasn't so huge that a state-wide candidate had to be competitive most everywhere in the state. That is no longer the case. A Democrat can win the population-rich NoVA and Tidewater and lose just about everywhere else and still win state-wide races. One can now win just a few counties and ignore the rest to control the state.
5. The education gap. The region now boasts a hyper-educated (or -credentialed) populace that has done relatively well in the recent years of globalization, mass immigration, and automation. Trumpism was never going to be a big success in the region the way it has been in the Rust Belt. This is not a highly ideological or "nationalist" area. People here are result-oriented, and frankly the president and the Republicans have not delivered anything yet (on the contrary, they have been scared by the talk about restricting mortgage and local tax deductions - this is a high real estate price and local tax area).Replies: @Ed, @Anonymous, @Berty, @midtown, @Anonymous, @Nico, @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous
One frightening sign is that Washington, which lost two baseball franchises during my youth, was able to steal a third from another city, itself once deemed worthy of expansion. And that after franchise relocation was thought obsolete for decades, at least in baseball.
Some of that is due to legitimate business growth in places like McLean, e.g., USAir moving there. But many other businesses are parasites on the federal beast.
In Virginia, until a few years, ago, open-carry was mandatory (if carrying a handgun) at ABC establishments! (Now one can concealed-carry at such establishments, but still cannot consume alcohol while doing so in public.) Virginia also requires "training" for conceal-carry permit, but that training can be online gun safety course. It is waved for LE and MIL (or former LE/MIL). Virginia also has a local gun advocacy group (the Virginia Citizens Defense League) that is probably the best state-level pro-gun group in the country. It's effective that it was able to extract a pro-gun measure from Terry McAuliffe, the former Clinton bagman and the outgoing governor.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
Concealed carry was once thought of as cowardly throughout the South. As opposed to Vermont, where the issue has never come up in 225 years.
My mother’s cousin, like her, grew up in Queens. He ran a handful of urban convenience stores in Texas in the days before the Killeen massacre, and carried openly because concealed was, until then, illegal. Back home in NYC, he might have had to pull strings, but it was doable.
It's, of course, not surprising that the counties/cities adjacent to D.C. went heavily for the Democrats, but what's a bit surprising is how badly the Republicans did in the outer-suburbs and exurbs that have been their bedrock. I think what's happening (and have happened) is as follows:
1. Suburbanization of exurbs. Remember when GW Bush won and was re-elected? The key to Republican victory was the exurb - one shell-shocked Democratic vote-getter compared the massive rise of Republican exurban voters to zombie herds. He said, "We didn't realize there were that many voters in the exurbs. They just kept coming, coming, and coming to the polls."
Well, now those exurbs have become suburbs, full of migrants from both outside the country and from places such as New York and New Jersey, and are trending strongly for the Democrats. The writing, so to speak, was on the wall when the Loudoun County school system became mired in the "gay penguin" book controversy a few years ago. That would have been unthinkable twenty years ago.
2. Population relocation/growth. Not only has the region experienced a dramatic growth of foreign populations (especially Hispanics, Indians, and Muslims), it has received a large infusion of population from the Northeast and California as the region's economy has grown massively. At first, the growth was almost entirely powered by government contracting, but now the area has become a huge tech hub. And while this has been a boon for the region's businesses (car mechanics routinely make $100,000+ a year and family-run HVAC or landscaping companies gross millions of dollars a year), it has completely altered the cultural landscape and social fabric of the area.
There was a time, not long ago, when commuters to D.C. from Fairfax County chose McLean for home if they desired the traditional bedroom suburb or Great Falls if they wanted the "boonies." Now, the former is an urban center on its own right and the latter is home to the likes of Saudi princes. In the past, D.C. might have been a swamp, but it was a small swamp, with the swampiness rapidly disappearing as it radiated outward into Virginia. Now it is a mega urban area with massive tentacles running across nearby Virginia and Maryland counties and beyond (and Virginia was affected more due to its pro-growth and pro-business environment).
3. Massive demographic change. I don't think I have to explain this here. What had been a very white area (with a few sprinkles of blacks and pockets of strongly Republican-leaning Vietnamese and Koreans) has become increasingly inundated by Indians, various Muslim groups, and Hispanics, all of who vote heavily Democrat. There are now real estate developments in Loudoun County (!) that are 60-70% Indian.
4. Change in NoVA-RoVA balance. There was a time when the population of NoVA wasn't so huge that a state-wide candidate had to be competitive most everywhere in the state. That is no longer the case. A Democrat can win the population-rich NoVA and Tidewater and lose just about everywhere else and still win state-wide races. One can now win just a few counties and ignore the rest to control the state.
5. The education gap. The region now boasts a hyper-educated (or -credentialed) populace that has done relatively well in the recent years of globalization, mass immigration, and automation. Trumpism was never going to be a big success in the region the way it has been in the Rust Belt. This is not a highly ideological or "nationalist" area. People here are result-oriented, and frankly the president and the Republicans have not delivered anything yet (on the contrary, they have been scared by the talk about restricting mortgage and local tax deductions - this is a high real estate price and local tax area).Replies: @Ed, @Anonymous, @Berty, @midtown, @Anonymous, @Nico, @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous
The exurbs ain’t what they used to be. From Bucks County, Pa.:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-man-snapped-woman-apos-183022156.html
Danica Roem (D-Transgender) Virginia house of deligates.
Ze replaces Ilhan Omar (DFL-Mogudishu) and slayer of Phyllis Kahn as my favorite legislator. The coalition of the fringes works only as long as establishment types are elected by the fringes. Once the fringes are the ones being elected it isn’t fun anymore.
BTW, I cannot find zir birth name anywhere. Ze is apparently undergoing hormone replacement therapy. Once the taxpayers pick up the tab for an orchiectomy the pronoun she will be appropriate. I congratulate zir for beating the system and hope there is no buyers remorse after the operation.
I also have a cousin who lives in NoVa. The last time we saw each other her little boy (~11) was wearing a shirt with the names of all his classmates in his "graduating" sixth grade class. Fully half the names were East Asian, Southern Asian, or Middle Eastern.
NoVa has been conquered by two groups of people, neither of which are friendly to Republicans. The first is the foreigners. The second is the employees of the government and government contractors.
Of course it doesn't help that Republicans run candidates so radical and ridiculous ("the nation's #1 homophobe") that even a transgender crazy can beat them in a House of Delegates race. The ex-bf of the reporter who was murdered on live TV by a crazy black race-obsessed Obama fan also won a seat - as a Democrat.
And Ed Gillespie? I'm not even sure I care all that much that an establishment open borders buttboy can't win. The establishment GOP basically abandoned the conservative candidate 4 years ago, who came very close to winning despite spending only about half of what McAuliffe spent. He lost by only 56,000 votes out of about 2.3 million cast. A "libertarian" candidate funded by an Obama billionaire took 146,000 votes.Replies: @27 year old, @BenKenobi, @The preferred nomenclature is...
Yeah, but does he have a Gran Torino?
My story is true, btw.
The suburban sprawl around DC is just unbelievable – it extends in every direction along the highway corridors. To the south, the I-95 corridor is built up from DC all the way to Quantico – a solid 30 miles where all the farmland is gone. To the NW, it extends past Dulles and now all the way to Leesburg, 45 miles of development. To the West, it goes out past the Civil War battlefields of Manassas and Bull Run all the way to Haymarket and Gainesville. It’s like a giant octopus that is fed on all the trillions of $ of taxes (and money printing) that are funneled into DC. Every farm that is paved over means dozens of new blue voters coming in.
I did something yesterday which I’ve never done before since attaining voting age—I skipped an election. We were only voting on mayor and city councilman here in my neck of the woods. I opened my ballot only to discover that I had no idea who any of these candidates were, and none of them had even bothered to list party affiliations. There has been absolutely no talk of any locally relevant issues in the news, no yards signs, no canvassing, no nothing. The entire campaign was limited to a few mailers which I’m sure everybody just threw away.
All in all, it was a pretty sad effort and I’m not happy about it.
The backstory is that VA GOP wanted establishment cuck Bill Bolling (lt gov) to be their candidate. This was arranged with some kind of backroom deal involving Gov. McDonnel. Ken Cucinnelli the (I think?) Attorney General was a tea party christian conservative type who had a ton of support from "the grassroots" and he decided to get into the race and challenge Bolling from the right. Cucinelli ended up beating out Bolling and the VA GOP establishment got butthurt and decided to only halfheartedly support Cucinelli in the general, because he wasn't their guy.
Rather than pull out all the stops to defeat McCaulife (ignoring a cardinal rule of politics, that one must never allow a pure political operative from the other side to gain official power), the VA GOP let McCaulife get elected with literally only two goals on his mind: deliver VA to the dems in 2016 and turn it reliably blue thereafter.
VA GOP knew that this is what would happen, but they were more concerned with retaining control over the party than with winning an election, even against an opponent whose explicit goal was to make sure they could never win statewide office ever again. They were happy to be the permanent opposition party.
VA is done, until the rest of VA starts shooting at NoVA.
Also quick note I read on Vox Day's comment section, if fairfax county disappeared, Gillespie would have won. If Fairfax County had the demographics of even as recent as 2009, Gillespie would have won. The demographic swing in NoVA happened that fast.Replies: @prole
Excellent analysis…
He’s delivered for the base what he delivered for customers of Trump University and his casinos – bluster about the good things to come but a pale shadow of the promises, implied and explicit, made during the campaign. Better than Hillary or McCain or Romney, but not Cruz.
WaPo called it a tidal wave….because VA got a dem governor and there were dem victories in a few other state legislature and mayoral races. Boy, are their standards low.
I also have a cousin who lives in NoVa. The last time we saw each other her little boy (~11) was wearing a shirt with the names of all his classmates in his "graduating" sixth grade class. Fully half the names were East Asian, Southern Asian, or Middle Eastern.
NoVa has been conquered by two groups of people, neither of which are friendly to Republicans. The first is the foreigners. The second is the employees of the government and government contractors.
Of course it doesn't help that Republicans run candidates so radical and ridiculous ("the nation's #1 homophobe") that even a transgender crazy can beat them in a House of Delegates race. The ex-bf of the reporter who was murdered on live TV by a crazy black race-obsessed Obama fan also won a seat - as a Democrat.
And Ed Gillespie? I'm not even sure I care all that much that an establishment open borders buttboy can't win. The establishment GOP basically abandoned the conservative candidate 4 years ago, who came very close to winning despite spending only about half of what McAuliffe spent. He lost by only 56,000 votes out of about 2.3 million cast. A "libertarian" candidate funded by an Obama billionaire took 146,000 votes.Replies: @27 year old, @BenKenobi, @The preferred nomenclature is...
A “homophope” is radical and ridiculous in your books. But a crazy tran is not. Did I understand you correctly?
You do realize what passes for a homophope today would’ve been considered a radical lefty 20 years ago.
The other is that given current trends he was going to lose anyway, and that being candid about the issue he lost less badly than he otherwise would have and hey, maybe increased however marginally the potential for an Overton Window shift?
I'd have to study his candidacy in more detail to say which one I would go with.
(A third possibility, which overlaps possibly with the second, is that he knew he was toast and decided on glorious self-immolation.)
No, you are not understanding me correctly. You are misunderstanding the electorate. If people's sexual orientation is relevant then the nation's "chief homophobes" haven't done a very good job explaining to us why.
My point was that much of the electorate is so indifferent to homosexuality that they would prefer to elect a crazy tranny to a "chief homophobe." Give us a compelling reason to care or else drop the issue. I am not exactly a fan of the way gays play politics. Hell, I think one of the reasons Hillary lost is because she chose a gay man for er campaign manager who, in the best modern gay tradition, was completely indifferent to the concerns of people raising families. But even I find the 'homophobia' bit of a turn off.
Marc Cuban: Please run in the 2018 Republican Primary.
Election headline from Seattle:
“Manka Dhingra leading Jinyoung Englund in pivotal 45th district [state] senate race”
That might have been marginally true in 2013, but that Virginia is over now. It looks like the Dems erased their 17-seat deficit in the Assembly or nearly did (in which case they can finish off the GOP in 2019/2021).
Virginia will now likely race to raise taxes, kill the business environment, tighten gun laws, embrace sanctuary cities, and speed demographic change even further. The D.C. suburbs will politically swamp the rest of the state like in N.Y., though it’s worse because the outlying parts of VA are far nicer than upstate N.Y.
No, it's not true. You gotta lose 55-45 or worse a lot more than just once to convince me that Virginia is out of play. I like Trump's rhetoric on immigration, but otherwise he's a very unpopular, ineffective president. That doesn't help the GOP.
One of the things I hate most about conservatives is the way we hasten to embrace defeatist attitudes. If we can win Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania after three decades in the wilderness we can sure as hell win back Virginia.Replies: @Andrew, @EdwardM
“Moderate”? What is moderate?
Support for open borders?
Support for rabid “Invade the World” foreign policy? (Aren’t John McCain and Lindsey Graham held-up as the very exemplars of a “moderate” Republican?)
Support, in any way, for the normalization of the gruesome, inordinately disease-promoting acts of buggery or anilingus? For the perpetuation of the pernicious, manifest falsehood that homosexuality is no less natural or wholesome than heterosexuality?
Ceding any ground to the maniacal “transgender” activist beasts who would criminalize parents who oppose their confused child being pumped with hormones and mutilated?
(For citations and elaboration upon the terms, concepts and views that I reference above, see my comment archive.)
Aren’t all of the above among the Respectables’ criteria for considering someone “moderate”?
If you agree with me, shouldn’t you have placed ‘moderate’ in quotation marks or otherwise indicated your lack of consent to the Respectable consensus on what constitutes a “moderate Republican”?
Choice of words is powerful.
Very well said and I couldn't agree more.Replies: @Dissident
His name was Robert Marshall and he called himself Virginia's "chief homophobe." His title, not someone else's. He lost to a tranny.Replies: @27 year old
Wow. Ok, I was wrong about that. So I looked into this race some more.
His district went 54-40 Clinton over Trump. 85% of his district is Prince William County, which was the first majority-minority county in VA.
This guy was living on borrowed time representing a blue and rapidly getting bluer area. He still did better against the tranny than Hillary did against Trump.
It’s a yuge mistake to think that the GOP is losing because of radical backward fuddy duddie candidates.
He lost because his district was transformed.
Don’t worry. He said the same thing you did.
The kid toucher was in her way.
It's, of course, not surprising that the counties/cities adjacent to D.C. went heavily for the Democrats, but what's a bit surprising is how badly the Republicans did in the outer-suburbs and exurbs that have been their bedrock. I think what's happening (and have happened) is as follows:
1. Suburbanization of exurbs. Remember when GW Bush won and was re-elected? The key to Republican victory was the exurb - one shell-shocked Democratic vote-getter compared the massive rise of Republican exurban voters to zombie herds. He said, "We didn't realize there were that many voters in the exurbs. They just kept coming, coming, and coming to the polls."
Well, now those exurbs have become suburbs, full of migrants from both outside the country and from places such as New York and New Jersey, and are trending strongly for the Democrats. The writing, so to speak, was on the wall when the Loudoun County school system became mired in the "gay penguin" book controversy a few years ago. That would have been unthinkable twenty years ago.
2. Population relocation/growth. Not only has the region experienced a dramatic growth of foreign populations (especially Hispanics, Indians, and Muslims), it has received a large infusion of population from the Northeast and California as the region's economy has grown massively. At first, the growth was almost entirely powered by government contracting, but now the area has become a huge tech hub. And while this has been a boon for the region's businesses (car mechanics routinely make $100,000+ a year and family-run HVAC or landscaping companies gross millions of dollars a year), it has completely altered the cultural landscape and social fabric of the area.
There was a time, not long ago, when commuters to D.C. from Fairfax County chose McLean for home if they desired the traditional bedroom suburb or Great Falls if they wanted the "boonies." Now, the former is an urban center on its own right and the latter is home to the likes of Saudi princes. In the past, D.C. might have been a swamp, but it was a small swamp, with the swampiness rapidly disappearing as it radiated outward into Virginia. Now it is a mega urban area with massive tentacles running across nearby Virginia and Maryland counties and beyond (and Virginia was affected more due to its pro-growth and pro-business environment).
3. Massive demographic change. I don't think I have to explain this here. What had been a very white area (with a few sprinkles of blacks and pockets of strongly Republican-leaning Vietnamese and Koreans) has become increasingly inundated by Indians, various Muslim groups, and Hispanics, all of who vote heavily Democrat. There are now real estate developments in Loudoun County (!) that are 60-70% Indian.
4. Change in NoVA-RoVA balance. There was a time when the population of NoVA wasn't so huge that a state-wide candidate had to be competitive most everywhere in the state. That is no longer the case. A Democrat can win the population-rich NoVA and Tidewater and lose just about everywhere else and still win state-wide races. One can now win just a few counties and ignore the rest to control the state.
5. The education gap. The region now boasts a hyper-educated (or -credentialed) populace that has done relatively well in the recent years of globalization, mass immigration, and automation. Trumpism was never going to be a big success in the region the way it has been in the Rust Belt. This is not a highly ideological or "nationalist" area. People here are result-oriented, and frankly the president and the Republicans have not delivered anything yet (on the contrary, they have been scared by the talk about restricting mortgage and local tax deductions - this is a high real estate price and local tax area).Replies: @Ed, @Anonymous, @Berty, @midtown, @Anonymous, @Nico, @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous
I recall that Steve has sometimes shown evidence that the number of married white women with children is one of the best trackers of Republican electoral success. But I wonder whether Northern Virginia isn’t one of the places where the correlation is weakest.
Today’s Prince William County seems to be an example of banlieueification. I think that many non-white service workers live there and commute to Fairfax County and other inner jurisdictions.
VA RINOs called Trumpster Corey Stewart "a walking nightmare," but he almost beat Open Borders fanatic Ed Gillespie in the 2017 GOP Gov. primary (Gillespie barely won : 44%-43%).
Gillespie had to tone down his Open Border craziness after such a close shave but he would up losing bigly yesterday to the wishy-washy Dem, 45%-54%.
Republican voters made up only 31% of the overall turnout yesterday - - - the lowest GOP turnout since 1996 in Virginia. Republican voters everywhere have had enough of RINOs.
Nearby DC seems to have gobbled up VA, once a deep red state. VA is well on the way to becoming True Blue forever, thanks to federal government bloat and the Immigration Act of 1965. Virginia will probably become the next "sanctuary state."Replies: @Detective Club, @Anonymous
I’d like to believe you. But how can you be sure the low turnout was disgust with Gillespie and not dislike of Trump?
Trump lost to Hillary by 5%. RINO Gillespie lost to a Dem cipher by 8% or 9%. Virginia is gone for good as far as the GOP is concerned.
– https://www.unz.com/article/pew-research-report-suggests-a-strategy-for-securing-gopgap/#p_1_26
I did a lengthy analysis, a couple of days ago, what, in my opinion, the GOP and Trump should and must do to stay nationally, electorally relevant and competitive:
Donald Trump: ‘Planned Parenthood Does Some Very Good Work’ [VIDEO]
If he can bring back that “Planned Parenthood does some very good work” talking point, I believe, it can really win him back a lot of the support that he has lost over the last several months, due to him giving into the demands of the Mike Pence — social conservative, pro-big donor — wing of the party. – https://www.unz.com/article/pew-research-report-suggests-a-strategy-for-securing-gopgap/#comment-2062343
Looking at the following data, it will be even more important for the GOP and Trump to abandon the theocratic, anti-Planned Parenthood/anti-abortion rhetoric and policies. As the above survey shows, 60% of Independents say that abortion should be legal in all or most cases. In order to win over Independents (who are America’s biggest political “party”/voting bloc, and many of whom are white), becoming/being pro-Planned Parenthood/pro-choice is the way to go for the GOP. If the GOP continues to let itself be held hostage by religious fanatics and orthodoxy, it won’t have a political future – https://www.unz.com/article/pew-research-report-suggests-a-strategy-for-securing-gopgap/#comment-2063780
– https://www.unz.com/article/pew-research-report-suggests-a-strategy-for-securing-gopgap/#comment-2069158
Get the Facts: Gillespie on Abortion and Planned Parenthood
Spencer likely accounted for thousands of Democrat votes that otherwise would have stayed home, and a decent share of "moderates" that would have voted GOP but switched.
In the likely event the statues get demo'd, I doubt it ends with anything but a whimper.
He did almost everything possible to spike the Dem base turnout.Replies: @Berty, @eah, @Opinionator, @notanon
good
low Dem turnout lulls GOPe into thinking they can get away with “one more year” of cheap labor – hopefully they’re spooked
GOPe need to start attacking the media for inciting anti-Trump massacres.
it seems swamp more than immigration is the chief cause in VA so closing down some departments like education and pushing it back to the states could tip the scales back.
This is awesome. Socialists elected. white men getting bitch slapped. Demographic change looks like it will the save the country from the tyrannical grips of white conservatives. It’s over. Republicans are taking it in the rear and this is only the beginning
I guess one man's 'spite' is another's principle.
The truth is, massive immigration of unskilled (and therefore of low economic value) non-whites has helped destroy unions and employment-based healthcare in America for non-professional occupations -- Obamacare is nothing more than a racial spoils system extended to healthcare: productive Whites and Asians are forced to subsidize the healthcare for a large and growing population of economically marginal people, many of whom are among the most obese and unhealthy in America (both Blacks and Hispanics are more likely to be obese than Whites or Asians) -- this is completely unsustainable, not to mention unjust: another aspect of using government coercion to force Whites to subsidize their dispossession.
Whether it was smart of Trump to immediately make repeal of Obamacare a political issue is another question.Replies: @eah, @eah, @Jonathan Mason
New California: Mass Immigration Turning Virginia Blue
Does anyone seriously believe people like this create enough wealth to pay for their own healthcare?
also mustn’t forget the ex-felon votes, 168,000
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/virginia-restoration-of-voting-rights_us_5a026556e4b092053058cd0e
not complaining of course – voter suppression is another example of GOPe avoiding the reality of their betrayal.
Which one is she? The lawyer who brags about having represented Kari Tupper, or the other one?
Seattle’s not a Power Lesbian kinda town. Maybe due to Vitamin D deficiency/all the gloom.
Virginia's results just show that all Republicans need to do is recruit enough woke tranny Latinas and the future is bright!
Conservatism, Inc.: phyrric victory – can paint this loss as a rebuke to Trump, and yet their very survival (like that of Legacy Americans generally) depends on Trump holding back the left and prolonging their stay of execution. But wait, didn’t Trumpism and a Trumpish candidate lose?
Not really: Dems will draw the relevant lessons and go full pickup-truck-ad on a national scale for 2018- which in turn will energize Legacy Americans: the Coaliti0n of the Fringes’ KKKrazy Glue messaging will be more foghorn than dogwhistle, and Trump will appear vindicated.
Also, the fact that the whole of Virigina , not just the north, is rendered Yankified will heighten distrust of the blue wave among Legacy voters across the rest of the Upper South.
As a generalization, the urban areas are populated with expats from Yankeedom working in something related to the Swamp. One of the more popular fish restaurants in Loudoun county specializes in preparing fish dishes ... "just like on Long Island." The Yankees queue up for an hour waiting for a table. It reminds them of home.Replies: @Olorin
You think Yankees consider Long Island home?
In what way?
You were better at /pol/ last night with the Leaf flag, Justin.
I’m not sure you can participate in Seattle politics unless you’re either a homosexual or a subcontinental.
Virginia’s results just show that all Republicans need to do is recruit enough woke tranny Latinas and the future is bright!
https://twitter.com/AJB109/status/928069961762902016
The hysterical relief of the Left that they weren’t crushed in their own backyards is telling.
In true fashion, they’re going to think that winning two blue governorships that should have been safe means they have a national mandate for tranny bathrooms and gun confiscation. Watch.
Northam’s campaign ads basically repeated over and over that he was a VMI (Virginia Military Institute) grad and an Army doctor.
She sounds insufferable:
“Ninety-two years later, Seattle is about to have a new woman mayor,” Durkan said, according to the Seattle Times.
“Just imagine what they’re going to blame on me.”
“Donald Trump, keep your hands off Seattle,” she said.
All the shittalking against Mr. Trump...and his blunt/Queens persona. Yet I reflect on The Seventeen and cannot think of a single one better qualified to act as a lightning rod on this.
And speaking of ladies Protesting Too Much:
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My personal fave:
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And finally, the platonic ideal intersection of abortion and antifa:
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https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/928063670457905152Replies: @Maj. Kong, @AndrewR, @Hail
Why is Rick Wilson so butthurt about Spencer? Did Spencer say that ARV medication should not be government subsidized in the ethnostate?
In true fashion, they're going to think that winning two blue governorships that should have been safe means they have a national mandate for tranny bathrooms and gun confiscation. Watch.Replies: @Berty
They’ve already reintroduced the assault weapons ban.
#RalphNorthamIsARacist
60%! Wow! She really licked her opponent.
https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/928063670457905152Replies: @Maj. Kong, @AndrewR, @Hail
Formal electoral politics: Northam wins.
Metapolitics: Spencer wins.
The key issue may not be whether voters liked or disliked, felt motivated or demotivated by a Ralph Gillespie an Ed Northam but the higher issue of regional-ethnic-national identity. The Edison exit poll found Virginia voters split 59-37 in favor of keeping the Confederate monuments (37% wanted to tear them down), and this in a year with heavier Democratic turnout. After the long, media-led racial-proxy agitation campaign against the monuments, this means that Unite the Right succeeded in its goals.
Among Whites who cast a ballot in 2017 (68% of voters), the split must be around 80-20 in favor of the monuments, versus 80-20 against the monuments among Nonwhites (32% of voters) (I derive this by estimating first that Nonwhite answers to the monument question mirror their D-R vote split, and extrapolating what the White split must be from there). When factoring out the likely higher turnout by hardcore SJW-type White voters, the radical “Tear it Down! Wing” of the White Democrats declines still further.
Now that the smoke has cleared on the past few months or racial politics in Virginia, we see that this ‘metapolitical’ issue unites a very large majority of Whites — regardless of their favored color in politics.
Bull. What were "Unite the Right"'s goals?Replies: @Hail
50 years hence, a dazed white man walks around Charlottesville muttering to himself about the mass brown people in town. He is literally the only white person in sight.
After a few minutes he finds the Lee monument. His face brightens.
"At least I still have my statues!" he says quietly to himself.
"Ninety-two years later, Seattle is about to have a new woman mayor," Durkan said, according to the Seattle Times.
"Just imagine what they're going to blame on me."
"Donald Trump, keep your hands off Seattle," she said.Replies: @Olorin
Ah, the outbleeding of wish-fulfillment fantasies.
All the shittalking against Mr. Trump…and his blunt/Queens persona. Yet I reflect on The Seventeen and cannot think of a single one better qualified to act as a lightning rod on this.
And speaking of ladies Protesting Too Much:
My personal fave:
And finally, the platonic ideal intersection of abortion and antifa:
And he apparently voted for George W both times. By contrast, Gillespie was a lobbyist. I suspect the Democrats are going to draw some erroneous conclusions from their win.
After the long, media-led racial-proxy agitation campaign against the monuments, this means that Unite the Right succeeded in its goals.
Bull. What were “Unite the Right”‘s goals?
I expect I’ll be paying a lot more in taxes next year, but at least I’ll be too high to notice.Replies: @CCZ
And there will be no real constraints to legislating or Murphy, as Governor, executive ordering a “Sanctuary State” (he promised this very early in his campaign and then walked it back a little) as well as sending pallets of cash to “underfunded” urban schools (no doubt in large part to satisfy the constituency of New Jersey’s first black Lt. Governor, Shelia Oliver).
Afreakinmen.
Very well said and I couldn’t agree more.
*Sigh*
To the surprise of absolutely no one, the wonderful and talented Bill DeBlasio is returning to his swamp for another 4 years.
As voter turnout fell to a record low of 20%, it’s doubtful that anyone but the mayor really views it as a landslide. Personally, I see it as the outcome of some sort of collective spasm which occurred in the voting booth.
Now those Democrats who voted for him can go back to complaining about him for another term.
If after the last 3 years of the Obama administration these “metapolitical” issues have not sufficed to convince the totality or near-totality of their sympathizers that the Democratic Party, beholden as it is to a particularly whiny, violent, parasitic and vengeful Rainbow Coalition of the Fringes, has it SERIOUSLY out for the extinction of ourselves and our posterity, then can ANYONE please tell me what the HELL can, before it’s TOO LATE?!
he was traumatized by alt-right during the election – will never recover
You do realize what passes for a homophope today would've been considered a radical lefty 20 years ago.Replies: @Nico, @Wilkey
There are two ways of looking at it. One is that his problem isn’t that he’s a homophobe but that he has his finger so off the pulse of the (revolting) way the electorate has swung that he couldn’t express it in their language.
The other is that given current trends he was going to lose anyway, and that being candid about the issue he lost less badly than he otherwise would have and hey, maybe increased however marginally the potential for an Overton Window shift?
I’d have to study his candidacy in more detail to say which one I would go with.
(A third possibility, which overlaps possibly with the second, is that he knew he was toast and decided on glorious self-immolation.)
Surprised the GOP lost three legislative seats in Georgia though. Somebody better lose their job over that blunder.Replies: @Twinkie, @Anonymous
Most of Virginia is solidly red state, its NoVa, riddled with liberal sycophants, foreigners, establishment hacks, etc – nearly all of them from somewhere other than VA, that screws it all up on election day.
It’s good politicking. Co-opt the opposition, and have your ‘independent’ minions run ads essentially showing your opponent mowing down cute little children with a pickup truck.
Ideographics matter too. The ideology of too many whites is anti-white. They see anti-white betrayal as a virtue. They’ve been educated thus. Look at white states like Maine, Minnesota, and Vermont. Demographically white but ideographically anti-white.
In a nation where ‘racism’ is seen as the worst evil — and even most on the Right use ‘racism’ as pejorative — , too many whites think that any white identity or interest is ‘racist’ and evil.
Despite demographic changes, GOP could have won Virginia if whites stuck together. But they didn’t. 41% of whites voted for Democratic and more Diversity.
(Granted, even white cons may welcome Diversity because immigrants are preferable to blacks socially and economically.)
>keeping the Confederate monuments
50 years hence, a dazed white man walks around Charlottesville muttering to himself about the mass brown people in town. He is literally the only white person in sight.
After a few minutes he finds the Lee monument. His face brightens.
“At least I still have my statues!” he says quietly to himself.
The Irish are notorious for their insipid obsequiousness to the WASP /JEW ruling class.
Ed Gillespie has spent his entire political career pushing for open borders mass immigration. Gillespie has whored himself out for cash.
Ed Gillespie's ugly Irish mug is the face of the globalized GOP ruling class.Replies: @Hibernian
“The Irish are notorious for their insipid obsequiousness to the WASP /JEW ruling class.”
You have to live in a bubble to believe that.
I was just coming on here to point that out.
The Democrats have no patience for the 2008 strategy of running faux “Blue Dogs” who immediately vote for whatever agenda Pelosi lays down.
What did Trump get for backing Luther Strange? Has his agenda been pushed through? Has he gotten support from the GOPe? Or do the cucks take every opportunity to virtue signal against him?
I think Trump leaving the GOP and Gillespie (a creature of the Swamp who was going to ‘evolve’ on immigration the second after he was sworn in, which is why Trump withheld rallying for him) to hang was purposeful. Watch for a come to Jesus moment among the GOP in short order for 2020 once the President returns from Asia. If a dope like Flake saw what was going to happen to him in 2020, the brighter bulbs have to know they gotta get with the program.
I doubt it. Was that the plot of the movie? I never saw it. Probably not a bad plot since it applies to so many elderly white couples these days, who held on in towns that turned into foreign countries around them.
My story is true, btw.
You do realize what passes for a homophope today would've been considered a radical lefty 20 years ago.Replies: @Nico, @Wilkey
A “homophope” is radical and ridiculous in your books. But a crazy tran is not. Did I understand you correctly?
No, you are not understanding me correctly. You are misunderstanding the electorate. If people’s sexual orientation is relevant then the nation’s “chief homophobes” haven’t done a very good job explaining to us why.
My point was that much of the electorate is so indifferent to homosexuality that they would prefer to elect a crazy tranny to a “chief homophobe.” Give us a compelling reason to care or else drop the issue. I am not exactly a fan of the way gays play politics. Hell, I think one of the reasons Hillary lost is because she chose a gay man for er campaign manager who, in the best modern gay tradition, was completely indifferent to the concerns of people raising families. But even I find the ‘homophobia’ bit of a turn off.
I agree with your sentiment. I would only say this: Most people don’t think too much about politics and simply follow what they’re told, the dominant things that are being said around them, and, for many, their choice of color in politics makes about as much rational sense as one’s favorite sports team (“it’s the team my dad liked,” “it’s my hometown team,” etc.).
No one in U.S. electoral politics is preaching open White Displacement or Racial Brazilianization as a formal, overt political goal, not Ralph Northam, not Hillary Clinton, not even the voices furthest to the Left in electoral politics. Some agitators on the ethnic-Left do say so, it’s true, but this seldom percolates down to the typical non-political White person who favors the color blue. The average blue team fan, rather, imagines the future as Star Trek: Whites are forever the core with a cast of friendly, diverse sidekicks.
Virginia will now likely race to raise taxes, kill the business environment, tighten gun laws, embrace sanctuary cities, and speed demographic change even further. The D.C. suburbs will politically swamp the rest of the state like in N.Y., though it's worse because the outlying parts of VA are far nicer than upstate N.Y.Replies: @Wilkey
That might have been marginally true in 2013, but that Virginia is over now.
No, it’s not true. You gotta lose 55-45 or worse a lot more than just once to convince me that Virginia is out of play. I like Trump’s rhetoric on immigration, but otherwise he’s a very unpopular, ineffective president. That doesn’t help the GOP.
One of the things I hate most about conservatives is the way we hasten to embrace defeatist attitudes. If we can win Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania after three decades in the wilderness we can sure as hell win back Virginia.
This is what I hate about amateur politics.
The GOP has pretty much controlled all three of those states since 1994. We weren't in "the wilderness", we were running presidential candidates and pushing a national program with no appeal up north to the middle of the electorate, as Steve observed in 2000.
Similarly, instead of seeing Virginia as some sort of long lost Republican state because it voted for the GOP in Presidential elections, we should realize it was a Democratic run state right up to around 2000. In this way, it is very similar to much of the rest of the South, which registered and voted solid Democrat, but not for extreme leftist candidates for President.
Look beyond Presidential politics and you'll have a much better idea of where we really stand.
Bull. What were "Unite the Right"'s goals?Replies: @Hail
The rally itself is less important than the force from which it drew, which is, for better or worse, that small wing of U.S. politics now known as the Alt-Right. The Alt-Right’s goal, its agenda, I would say, is: (1) For an assertion of White racial identity in explicit terms (White Rights), (2) Against everything said and done by the radical anti-White Left (i.e., ‘Antifa’ and its many fans in the media, etc.).
As per (2): ‘Antifa’ and that crowd demanded the statues come down. It was now a proxy issue for racial politics but still also tied to traditional Americanism that essentially every true American is on board with (show me an American gentile, with deep roots in America, with a hatred in his heart for R.E.Lee).
Where were the voices in defense of the statues? There was, as usual, a conservative silence on the matter in the interest of politeness. The Alt-Right demanded the statues stay. They were hysterically demonized for it. We all remember.
‘Antifa’ lost in the court of White public opinion, something like 80-20 in Virginia. The Alt-Right used the protest opportunity to also push a radical racial-nationalist agenda along with it, i.e., (1) above.
And sorry, labeling a rally purportedly intended to appeal to "true Americans" and "traditional Anericanism" and defend the country's heritage and history as "Unite the Right" is political malpractice.
Your "radical racial-nationalist" agenda (ethnic cleansing) is a nonstarter. This country needs a nationalist agenda. Your ethnic cleansing agenda and a racial supremacist attitude are harming those efforts.Replies: @Nico
https://twitter.com/BasedStickMan_/status/928450539041337345
https://twitter.com/KevinNR/status/928258223022530565
Do Tweets not automatically convert anymore?
Link to the original by “Based Stickman”
Someone who led a Nazi salute to Trump after the election, who despite being infamous seems to have the money to travel all over the place and engage in various schemes and rackets, who grabs attention by spouting the most insulting and/or inflammatory rhetoric he can only to disappear shortly afterward.
Connect the dots.Replies: @Opinionator, @Anonymous, @Jack Hanson
who grabs attention by spouting the most insulting and/or inflammatory rhetoric he can only to disappear shortly afterward.
It’s really quite amazing. Spencer has alienated all women (“women shouldn’t vote”), all nonwhite Americans, and their friends and family relations (advocates for “ethnic cleansing” to create a White “ethnostate”), most or all Jews (“exuberant” use of Nazi iconography), Americans, including White Americans, between the ages of 50 and 70 (“Boomers”), President Trump, Bannon, the “Alt Light”, and many of the leading commentators and thinkers on the Alt Right (Ricky Vaughn, Roosh, Ramzpaul, BAP, micro, weev).
Who is Spencer’s “base”? What is his function? What are his objectives (I don’t know that he has any other than sandbox fights and destruction).
(mostly) young white males with experience of education since it became openly anti-white
normalize white identity politics
Who wants to be "ethnically cleansed"? Who wants their friends and family to be ethnically cleansed? Who wants Nazis in towns like Charlottesville?
Across Virginia raw votes cast were up 16% versus 2013. Charlottesville saw a 31% increase.
https://www.twitter.com/Redistrict/status/928119943081746432
Why hasn't anyone taken Spencer aside and told him he needs to take a long sabbatical from politics?Replies: @Dissident, @Maj. Kong
“Richard Spencer is poison” – Kevin Michael Grace, Grace & Steel Ep. 90 08/23/17
http://2kevins.com/archives/1231
KMG said he had begun to wonder whether there might actually be something to the rumors that Spencer is an FBI plant or the like.
Being too extreme for older people who experienced education before it became openly anti-white is a logical correlation.Replies: @Opinionator, @Anonymous
I guess one man's 'spite' is another's principle.
The truth is, massive immigration of unskilled (and therefore of low economic value) non-whites has helped destroy unions and employment-based healthcare in America for non-professional occupations -- Obamacare is nothing more than a racial spoils system extended to healthcare: productive Whites and Asians are forced to subsidize the healthcare for a large and growing population of economically marginal people, many of whom are among the most obese and unhealthy in America (both Blacks and Hispanics are more likely to be obese than Whites or Asians) -- this is completely unsustainable, not to mention unjust: another aspect of using government coercion to force Whites to subsidize their dispossession.
Whether it was smart of Trump to immediately make repeal of Obamacare a political issue is another question.Replies: @eah, @eah, @Jonathan Mason
This really is not true. The problem is that working families are forced to hand over a large proportion of their after tax earnings to health insurance companies, and still have to pay for health care on top of that because the so-called “deductibles” are thousands of dollars per year. In other words the health insurance is not paying for their health care, and there is no “affordable” health care anywhere, at least not in the US.
Trump rode into office promising health care that really would be affordable for everyone, and since he arrived in the White House has done sweet FA to even attempt to fulfill his pledges, and does not seem to have shown any interest in doing so. The problem with Obamacare is not that it is giving too many people cheap health care, it is that the insurance companies and drug companies are robbing the whole country blind and health care has become a luxury item that only the wealthy or those on Medicaid and Medicare can have, and the people in the middle are excluded.
Why are around 50% of the births in the US charged to Medicaid? Because the only way working women in the US can afford to become mothers is to be single mothers living with their parents, and the rest use contraception or abortion to avoid bankruptcy by childbirth.
No crackdown on illegal immigration. No end to DACA. No end to Obamacare. No pro-gun laws. All I have seen are saber-rattling overseas and the prospect of another tax cut. My family and I stand to gain from the tax cut (judging from the details being discussed), but another tax cut is NOT the reason we voted for him.Replies: @Lagertha
Bingo, Twinkie! Trump needs to go hardcore on Illegal Immigration, ending DACA, and augmenting ACA with big give-ups from insurance companies. His entire victory was due to the way the middle class (very broad) felt that they were being destroyed by having to support illegals/compete against H1B Visa guys/ having their century-old livelihoods off-shored, and, having to pay for the lion’s share of social services in their states for people who are basically, as poor as they are. In other words, Trump needs to make sure the ACTUAL top 1% pay more in federal taxes…and, that the country ceases to be a destination for illegals. Trump must focus on his promise to the middle class – if not, he’s done.
Spencer seems bipolar, but, I believe Berty.
For me, a Euro (and American) Spencer’s Nazi salute was a whole lotta of nonsense, and, a sign of total bull – he is a liar, but, not a really good one. He is a liar…and he is a plant. He needs to be destroyed. He exists to confound anyone decent who is a conservative. He is a weapon…a loser weapon, and one day, he’ll write a book…when he is finally, righteously indignant, that he was used; and then, impugned…and how his life sucked ever since. The Hitler Youth behavior in VA was a dead giveaway. Spencer should go off and flog himself; or just do us a favor. Loser. Bull shitter.
His rally was outnumbered 2 to 1 by antifa.
He and Jason Kessler did nothing about the fed informants waving Swastikas.
The rally occurred during an election year in an extremely important state, and it was foolish to think that McAullife wouldn’t use the National Guard presence nefariously to ensure the election of a successor from his party.
The media will always misrepresent us. We have to work around it, not form a circular firing squad.
Charlottesville was the largest defeat suffered by the Alt-Right in its recent history.
The way I have heard it, of the thousand or more attendees, a small handful may have had a Swastika. The organizers "did nothing" because they probably didn't see them. Show us even one picture of Spencer of Kessler with a Swastika.Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Twinkie
Who wants to be "ethnically cleansed"? Who wants their friends and family to be ethnically cleansed? Who wants Nazis in towns like Charlottesville?
Across Virginia raw votes cast were up 16% versus 2013. Charlottesville saw a 31% increase.
https://www.twitter.com/Redistrict/status/928119943081746432
Why hasn't anyone taken Spencer aside and told him he needs to take a long sabbatical from politics?Replies: @Dissident, @Maj. Kong
Fuhrerprinzip
He and Jason Kessler did nothing about the fed informants waving Swastikas.
The rally occurred during an election year in an extremely important state, and it was foolish to think that McAullife wouldn't use the National Guard presence nefariously to ensure the election of a successor from his party.
The media will always misrepresent us. We have to work around it, not form a circular firing squad.
Charlottesville was the largest defeat suffered by the Alt-Right in its recent history.Replies: @Hail
Were you there? Can you confirm this from first-hand observation? Did you watch as Spencer and Kessler actively ignored (“did nothing”) a substantial number of dubious individuals “waving Swastikas” in their close vicinity? Perhaps they winked at the Swastika-wavers and chuckled to each other?
The way I have heard it, of the thousand or more attendees, a small handful may have had a Swastika. The organizers “did nothing” because they probably didn’t see them. Show us even one picture of Spencer of Kessler with a Swastika.
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I don't subscribe to any conspiracy theories about Richard Spencer ("fed informant!") - I just think that he gets off on the controversy and public attention. His life history prior to the recent bout of playing a cartoon neo-Nazi in front of cameras ("white ethno state," but "I am a generous guy [as in, "I am going to let in some Asian girls, because they are a 'thing'"]) tells me that he doesn't believe what he is selling.
Ultimately, he is a distraction at best. Real white advocacy - that is, actually improving the lives of whites in this country (which, not coincidentally, will also improve the lives of most non-whites and better the country as a whole) requires judicious, thoughtful, and active efforts at not only political successes, but restoration of a healthy, productive, virtuous, and earnest Christian culture.Replies: @Dissident
The way I have heard it, of the thousand or more attendees, a small handful may have had a Swastika. The organizers "did nothing" because they probably didn't see them. Show us even one picture of Spencer of Kessler with a Swastika.Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Twinkie
http://www.apnewsarchive.com/2017/Opponents-of-the-Saturday-white-nationalist-rally-that-descended-into-chaos-included-clergy-students-Black-Lives-Matter-activists-armed-militia-members-and-protesters-with-the-anti-fa/id-13683a34cd124ff28236cd7cbbc58b3a
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Someone who led a Nazi salute to Trump after the election, who despite being infamous seems to have the money to travel all over the place and engage in various schemes and rackets, who grabs attention by spouting the most insulting and/or inflammatory rhetoric he can only to disappear shortly afterward.
Connect the dots.Replies: @Opinionator, @Anonymous, @Jack Hanson
I wouldn’t worry about Spencer one way or the other. Politics will continue to get more racial as a result of “demographic” changes being forced on us.
I agree. The term “moderate” should have quotations. I was thinking of it that way. But it is so important to use the right terminology.
The way I have heard it, of the thousand or more attendees, a small handful may have had a Swastika. The organizers "did nothing" because they probably didn't see them. Show us even one picture of Spencer of Kessler with a Swastika.Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Twinkie
You are getting legalistic and missing the point. When you are filmed leading Hitler salutes and talking about an ethno-state that will, in his own words, require much bloodshed to achieve, it’s hard to use “I’m not with the guys donning the Swastikas” defense at the next gathering.
I don’t subscribe to any conspiracy theories about Richard Spencer (“fed informant!”) – I just think that he gets off on the controversy and public attention. His life history prior to the recent bout of playing a cartoon neo-Nazi in front of cameras (“white ethno state,” but “I am a generous guy [as in, “I am going to let in some Asian girls, because they are a ‘thing’”]) tells me that he doesn’t believe what he is selling.
Ultimately, he is a distraction at best. Real white advocacy – that is, actually improving the lives of whites in this country (which, not coincidentally, will also improve the lives of most non-whites and better the country as a whole) requires judicious, thoughtful, and active efforts at not only political successes, but restoration of a healthy, productive, virtuous, and earnest Christian culture.
By the way, while things look pretty grim in Virginia, I’d like to remind everyone my little mantra – things are rarely as bad or as good as they seem at first glance.
I’d like you remind you that a Republican presidential candidate winning Wisconsin or Michigan seemed like a fantasy prior to the last election.
Mass psychology is very fickle and tends to over-swing one way or another. Until this election, the biggest voter turnout record in VA gubernatorial race was held by a Republican, Robert McDonnell only two elections ago (of course, he was promptly mired in a corruption/gift controversy), but the point is that Virginia is not “lost” – at least not yet.
Let’s not go crazy. Virginia is not New York State or New Jersey. For all the talk about NoVA turning into one of those, it still remains THE major metro area with the highest church attendance in the country. Things are changing and for the worse, in my view, but the war is not over yet in VA.
That is hardly a first in American history, unfortunately.Replies: @Twinkie
But never has an American community embraced someone who publicly self-lionized his own mental illness and sexual deviancy.
I'd like you remind you that a Republican presidential candidate winning Wisconsin or Michigan seemed like a fantasy prior to the last election.
Mass psychology is very fickle and tends to over-swing one way or another. Until this election, the biggest voter turnout record in VA gubernatorial race was held by a Republican, Robert McDonnell only two elections ago (of course, he was promptly mired in a corruption/gift controversy), but the point is that Virginia is not "lost" - at least not yet.
Let's not go crazy. Virginia is not New York State or New Jersey. For all the talk about NoVA turning into one of those, it still remains THE major metro area with the highest church attendance in the country. Things are changing and for the worse, in my view, but the war is not over yet in VA.Replies: @Anonymous
I largely agree. Many people commenting on NoVA have no idea what they are talking about. Things are complex. It is an extremely “family-oriented” area, and is quite different from California, New York and New Jersey. It is not packed with hipsters, SJW’s or parasites. It is not even packed with “swamp creatures”, unless you want to call most people with “normal” “white collar” jobs swamp creatures. (Maybe these jobs are of no inherent value, and harm society as a whole, and I myself am fairly sympathetic to that view, but that is not how people see it. They are trying to earn money to support their families.) Nobody wants MS-13 (except MS-13), but most people would also fear Richard Spencer (as they understand him), and find Trump cringe-worthy. That said, an overtly Trump-allied politician can certainly win, if things are done astutely.
I don't subscribe to any conspiracy theories about Richard Spencer ("fed informant!") - I just think that he gets off on the controversy and public attention. His life history prior to the recent bout of playing a cartoon neo-Nazi in front of cameras ("white ethno state," but "I am a generous guy [as in, "I am going to let in some Asian girls, because they are a 'thing'"]) tells me that he doesn't believe what he is selling.
Ultimately, he is a distraction at best. Real white advocacy - that is, actually improving the lives of whites in this country (which, not coincidentally, will also improve the lives of most non-whites and better the country as a whole) requires judicious, thoughtful, and active efforts at not only political successes, but restoration of a healthy, productive, virtuous, and earnest Christian culture.Replies: @Dissident
Plus, what about the haircut?
Very well said and I couldn't agree more.Replies: @Dissident
Thank you.
To the surprise of absolutely no one, the wonderful and talented Bill DeBlasio is returning to his swamp for another 4 years.
As voter turnout fell to a record low of 20%, it's doubtful that anyone but the mayor really views it as a landslide. Personally, I see it as the outcome of some sort of collective spasm which occurred in the voting booth.
Now those Democrats who voted for him can go back to complaining about him for another term.Replies: @Dissident
To the surprise of absolutely no one, the wonderful and talented Bill DeBlasio is returning to his swamp for another 4 years.
From the latest Radio Derb:
From Nicole Malliotakis’ campaign web site:
To me, this is perhaps the most depressing thing about elections in a place like NYC (and far too many other districts): that to be a viable candidate, it is a sine qua non to be fully on board with the pernicious agenda of the “LGBTQ” lobby.
That aside, will we be hearing Ms. Mallitakis’ loss blamed on sexism and mysogny, the way we did Hillary’s? (Remember, as well, Bill Clinton chiding the voters of New York City for their “racism” in not re-electing David Dinkins as Mayor.)
What % of the non-ethnic American small businessmen in big cities these days are gay? A pretty high percentage, right?
The GOP presidential candidates draw about 25% of the gay vote. I suspect on the lesbian side that tends to be military people, gym coaches, cops, and the like. The only lesbian I know at present voted for Trump. That’s probably related to her having needed some more income recently so she joined the Army Reserve as an officer.
In a lot of big cities, gay men make up a big % of non-ethnic small business owners.
NJ just came off eight years of Republican government. It is not packed with hipsters, SJW’s or parasites. It is not even packed with “swamp creatures”, unless you want to call most people with “normal” “white collar” jobs swamp creatures. applies there as well. NJ is also always mired in scandals, usually worse than Christie’s.
No, it's not true. You gotta lose 55-45 or worse a lot more than just once to convince me that Virginia is out of play. I like Trump's rhetoric on immigration, but otherwise he's a very unpopular, ineffective president. That doesn't help the GOP.
One of the things I hate most about conservatives is the way we hasten to embrace defeatist attitudes. If we can win Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania after three decades in the wilderness we can sure as hell win back Virginia.Replies: @Andrew, @EdwardM
If we can win Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania after three decades in the wilderness
This is what I hate about amateur politics.
The GOP has pretty much controlled all three of those states since 1994. We weren’t in “the wilderness”, we were running presidential candidates and pushing a national program with no appeal up north to the middle of the electorate, as Steve observed in 2000.
Similarly, instead of seeing Virginia as some sort of long lost Republican state because it voted for the GOP in Presidential elections, we should realize it was a Democratic run state right up to around 2000. In this way, it is very similar to much of the rest of the South, which registered and voted solid Democrat, but not for extreme leftist candidates for President.
Look beyond Presidential politics and you’ll have a much better idea of where we really stand.
You can’t be sure of anything in this world. But if the GOP had gone with Jeb!(6 convention delegates), there wouldn’t be a Republican in the White House right about now. Doing the same thing over and over again (Bush[1992], Dole, Bush[2000, hanging chads], Bush[2004, after invading Iraq], McCain, Romney) would have been a sure-fire national loser in 2016.
Trump lost to Hillary by 5%. RINO Gillespie lost to a Dem cipher by 8% or 9%. Virginia is gone for good as far as the GOP is concerned.
Sorry, the fact is that your rally lost in the court of public opinion. What was public opinion regarding the statues polling BEFORE your rally? Associating Robert E. Lee with Nazism, ethnic cleanser Richard Spencer, and violence brought by outsiders to small towns has cut into support for the statues. In addition to its having tarnished the reputation of a good man.
And sorry, labeling a rally purportedly intended to appeal to “true Americans” and “traditional Anericanism” and defend the country’s heritage and history as “Unite the Right” is political malpractice.
Your “radical racial-nationalist” agenda (ethnic cleansing) is a nonstarter. This country needs a nationalist agenda. Your ethnic cleansing agenda and a racial supremacist attitude are harming those efforts.
Someone who led a Nazi salute to Trump after the election, who despite being infamous seems to have the money to travel all over the place and engage in various schemes and rackets, who grabs attention by spouting the most insulting and/or inflammatory rhetoric he can only to disappear shortly afterward.
Connect the dots.Replies: @Opinionator, @Anonymous, @Jack Hanson
The fact that Spencer’s family has had zero repercussions laid on it while the second shift machinist gets doxxed should have been a res flag. This isn’t even touching the fact that while AR types are getting literally banned from the internet Spencer still has his blue check mark.
Weev has Spencer’s number.
http://2kevins.com/archives/1231
KMG said he had begun to wonder whether there might actually be something to the rumors that Spencer is an FBI plant or the like.Replies: @notanon
Spencer is just right for the generation of youngsters who have experienced education since it became openly anti-white.
Being too extreme for older people who experienced education before it became openly anti-white is a logical correlation.
Weev has Spencer's number.Replies: @notanon
not true
Being too extreme for older people who experienced education before it became openly anti-white is a logical correlation.Replies: @Opinionator, @Anonymous
There is room for defending White people from attacks, discrimination, or dispossession. There may even be room for White identity. There is no room, however, for ethnic cleansing.
50 years of white flight driven by low level gang violence against white children is ethnic cleansing
Show me a successful American politician who has advocated for the “ethnic cleansing” of Whites.
my point is if you know the consequence of those policies there is no moral difference between mainstream politics and Spencer.however if you meant this previous comment in a tactical sense rather than a moral one then sure it's an issue if Spencer was after direct electoral success but does success in Spencer's terms involve personal electoral success or does it involve pushing GOP voters in an identitarian direction? I'd say the latter.Replies: @Desiderius
LOL! My building is two blocks away from the polling place and I’m the only one in it who voted.
Not to mention the glorification of massive immigration and sanctuary cities. (Which is why the Independent Bo Dietl never had a chance, besides not really trying to.)
No so sure. Republicans don’t garner too much sympathy in these parts.
pretty much all of them openly advocate for policies which inevitably lead to the gradual ethnic cleansing of the white population but yes they are not electorally successful because they openly advocate ethnic cleansing policies, they are successful because the media cover up the ethnic cleansing consequence of those policies.
my point is if you know the consequence of those policies there is no moral difference between mainstream politics and Spencer.
however if you meant this previous comment in a tactical sense rather than a moral one then sure it’s an issue if Spencer was after direct electoral success but does success in Spencer’s terms involve personal electoral success or does it involve pushing GOP voters in an identitarian direction? I’d say the latter.
If you're anti-anti-white or black, you've got a ready-made majority. Likewise pro-American.
Pro-white or pro-black triggers too many alarm bells, especially among the ambitious of all races and classes. Don't tug on superman's cape.
my point is if you know the consequence of those policies there is no moral difference between mainstream politics and Spencer.however if you meant this previous comment in a tactical sense rather than a moral one then sure it's an issue if Spencer was after direct electoral success but does success in Spencer's terms involve personal electoral success or does it involve pushing GOP voters in an identitarian direction? I'd say the latter.Replies: @Desiderius
It’s not just, or even principally, ethnic cleansing though. Blacks don’t have that kind of power. What it is is class cleansing and economic rape and pillage. Blacks are an ancillary but relatively minor force in that endeavor.
If you’re anti-anti-white or black, you’ve got a ready-made majority. Likewise pro-American.
Pro-white or pro-black triggers too many alarm bells, especially among the ambitious of all races and classes. Don’t tug on superman’s cape.
Being too extreme for older people who experienced education before it became openly anti-white is a logical correlation.Replies: @Opinionator, @Anonymous
That’s right. The older generation just don’t understand. Most of what they think they know about race relations came from watching TV shows. They throw people of different races together and expect them to get along like the crew of Star Trek.
I was about to say the same thing. Word games. White violence against blacks is ‘hate’, and punished with exemplary severity. Black violence against whites is just ho-hum regular ‘crime’, and nobody much cares about it, including the police.
And sorry, labeling a rally purportedly intended to appeal to "true Americans" and "traditional Anericanism" and defend the country's heritage and history as "Unite the Right" is political malpractice.
Your "radical racial-nationalist" agenda (ethnic cleansing) is a nonstarter. This country needs a nationalist agenda. Your ethnic cleansing agenda and a racial supremacist attitude are harming those efforts.Replies: @Nico
If you’ve got a template for getting the blacks, browns and yellows on board, I’m all ears.
Otherwise, it will be necessary to halt the growth of and if possible by humane means shrink their ranks, and to take other measures to minimize their power to thwart that agenda.
This doesn’t mean “ethnic cleansing.” It does mean “putting them in their place” (which for many will be outside the United States). Pretending it means “ethnic cleansing” is obnoxious gatekeeper conservatism virtue signaling.
One National Review is useless enough.
He did didn’t he?
Barry Sotero?
No, it's not true. You gotta lose 55-45 or worse a lot more than just once to convince me that Virginia is out of play. I like Trump's rhetoric on immigration, but otherwise he's a very unpopular, ineffective president. That doesn't help the GOP.
One of the things I hate most about conservatives is the way we hasten to embrace defeatist attitudes. If we can win Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania after three decades in the wilderness we can sure as hell win back Virginia.Replies: @Andrew, @EdwardM
That’s a fair point. Like many conservatives, I thought that the pursuits of PA and WI were quixotic. And Trump came reasonably close in MN, for heaven’s sake. There’s a chance that more Somali shenanigans (like the cop who gunned down that Australian tourist), combined with the Minneapolis city council being comprised entirely of leftist transgender lesbian socialists, could tip in it 2020.
A belated thank you for this reply, which I had meant to acknowledge earlier. (If you checked the box to receive email replies and if that feature is working (it’s been hit or miss for me), then perhaps you will see this.)