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  1. Josh Barro tweeted something very interesting today. The Republican primary was actually easy to predict all along if you just went with the polls. Saying that Trump can win the general because everyone doubted he’d win the primary assumes a change in the polls.

    I fear the man might be too damaged to win.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @Hepp

    The Establishment is going to try to hang on to power even if it means the direct repudiation of the voters' expressed will, even if means throwing the results of the election in the wastebasket. Under such circumstances, the whole idea of "winning elections" is not really well defined. The Trump campaign is about a whole new realignment of the American political situation that is occurring over and above the business-as-usual of electoral politics.

    Replies: @rod1963, @Clifford Brown

    , @CommentGuy
    @Hepp

    There have actually been many changes in the Republican primary polls, owing greatly to the number of candidates, but also in reaction to Trump. The general is a different game, and Trump is right when he says that he hasn't yet shifted full Trumpism in her direction.

    , @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @Hepp

    "Josh Barro tweeted something very interesting today. The Republican primary was actually easy to predict all along if you just went with the polls. Saying that Trump can win the general because everyone doubted he’d win the primary assumes a change in the polls. "

    I don't know who will win the Presidency, but I do know one thing for absolutely certain: The polls will change, one way or another, between now and Election Day in November. So a projected outcome based on the idea of April polling data remaining static for the duration, has no value what-so-ever.

    , @Olorin
    @Hepp

    It has nothing to do with Trump being "too damaged to win."

    It has everything to do with the UniParty considering mainstream Americans too damaging to their globalist cause.

  2. Wisconsin Sucks

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @iSteveFan

    Maybe better we be disappointed now, than have President Trump disappoint us by forgetting his whole immigration platform. The guy is a flake. I'm sorry to say that, I really wish he wasn't.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @TangoMan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Yeah, @Boethius

    , @Anonymous
    @iSteveFan


    Wisconsin Sucks
     
    Agree. With a low-IQed governor who got kicked out of Marquette for a ow GPA.

    Fuck flyover country. Fuck the GOP. I've voted straight Republican since 1984. It's now only Trump or nothing for me. A non-Trump GOP candidate and I'll vote Democrat or third party (especially if Trump goes third party). If the GOP establish #NeverTrump conglomeration of globalist special interests succeed then I will NEVER vote for a Republican again. And I will work tirelessly to support things which subvert them. Not that these establishment types give a shit, but they will when they try to live in a country which is a hodgepodge clusterfuck and their lives are degraded.

    Replies: @Boethius, @Anonymous Nephew

    , @Anonymous
    @iSteveFan

    Way to go Dahmer country, you cheesetards with your low-IQ governor have kept alive the hope for open borders, endless wars, economic sodomizing by the globalists, et al.

  3. This smells fishy. Cruz wins by 20% yet latest poll had him up by 4%

    No matter. On the 19th the northeast will be a sweep for Trump.

    Oh, and nary a mention in MSM of Cruz sex scandal. Incredible

    • Agree: BB753, Travis
    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @JZ

    I know, right? The northeast (and mid-Atlantic) is going to scare a lot of people after this Wisconsin blip; and, it is a blip.

    There was something dirty goin' on about this primary in Wisconsin....something is fishy (yeah, I know, there was soooo much dirty money to torpedo Trump).

    Lyin' Ted is just too oleaginous to ever, ever run again (he won't get the Presidency), but he wants to take prisoners...do people (the Rubes) not see that? Is it just me who knows this guy is all about winning a debate club meet but sticking it to the USA? He is such a frightening person. I don't want to think that the only antidote is just having Hilary run the show next 4 years after November election.

    What most Rubes out in the hinterlands, and pundits in the MSM don't "get" is that Trump represents policy change. Policy change which is, actually, duh, needed. There are people from liberal, conservative, independent camps, who are yearning for "policy change." Global warming, migrants, nuclear wingnut nations, scary Islamists, Zika, financial industries bubble & collapse - hiding and hoarding their assets in foreign banks; recession, loss of jobs period, should be making people feel very uncomfortable. Oh well.

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    , @Twinkie
    @JZ


    Oh, and nary a mention in MSM of Cruz sex scandal. Incredible
     
    Here you go: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/03/25/cruz-national-enquirer-story-is-garbage-from-donald-trump-and-his-henchmen/

    Katrina Pierson, a Trump spokeswoman who once worked for Cruz, also said the [National Enquirer] story is false.
     

    Cruz also took the leaders of the Enquirer to task, saying they were in league with the Trump campaign.

    “The CEO of the National Enquirer is an individual named David Pecker,” said Cruz. “Well, David is good friends with Donald Trump. In fact, the National Enquirer has endorsed Donald Trump, has said he must be president…
     

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Stephen R. Diamond

  4. iSteveFan says:

    Just out of curiosity how large are Cruz’s rallies? Does he draw anywhere near the numbers Trump does? I just don’t see how he is winning Wisconsin by 20 points. I know there is not a direct relationship between attending a rally and voting. But generally the guys who draw the big crowds are doing so because they are connecting. Is Cruz really connecting?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @iSteveFan

    Trump's celebrity and being a reality TV star helps draw the crowds. He also gives entertaining speeches.

    , @Anonymous
    @iSteveFan

    Cruz's rallies might not be as big as Trump's, but Cruz has bigger hands. Trump has very, very small hands.

    , @Fast Ed
    @iSteveFan

    Cruz is not having anywhere near the crowds as Trump. Which calls in to question these results. Here is a video of the Monday Cruz rally in Waukesha County which is Scott Walker territory and heavy establishment republican/suburban voters. I would guess between 500-750 people.

    https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/717152942202204160

    , @Alice
    @iSteveFan

    Trump insulted Walker. Wisconsites don't like big city bombastic types to come and insult their guy. Maybe their guy was milquetoast. Maybe their guy wasn't ready for media attention. But he was Their Guy, Their Kinda Guy. And Ryan, too, is their guy. And Trump attacked him, too.

    Maybe Cruz isn't connecting. But maybe it was a repudiation.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Another Canadian

  5. @Hepp
    Josh Barro tweeted something very interesting today. The Republican primary was actually easy to predict all along if you just went with the polls. Saying that Trump can win the general because everyone doubted he'd win the primary assumes a change in the polls.

    I fear the man might be too damaged to win.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @CommentGuy, @Kevin O'Keeffe, @Olorin

    The Establishment is going to try to hang on to power even if it means the direct repudiation of the voters’ expressed will, even if means throwing the results of the election in the wastebasket. Under such circumstances, the whole idea of “winning elections” is not really well defined. The Trump campaign is about a whole new realignment of the American political situation that is occurring over and above the business-as-usual of electoral politics.

    • Replies: @rod1963
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Now you realize the old, rich white dudes calling the shots don't really care what the proles think and do.

    Telling blue collar and middle-class whites their vote is meaningless doesn't mean squat to them. The elites know there is little to fear from folks hunting them down. White Americans aren't at that place yet where they push back hard. Though I think it's getting closer as the elites are so openly contemptuous of the American people. Before they carefully hid their contempt through a slick PR system, but now...

    Trump did that much, exposed the cretins behind the green curtain and showing what a complete fraud our political and media system is. Basically the current system amounts to a flock of sheep voting for which wolf they want to devour them. While the MSM cheers on the butchery.

    Replies: @Boethius

    , @Clifford Brown
    @Intelligent Dasein

    If the Establishment plays the long game, they challenge Trump brutally during the primaries, but avoid stealing his nomination outright. Disaffected Establishment Republicans, Neocons and 4 months of media onslaught from the New York Times to Fox News, The National Review and The Wall Street Journal would defeat Trump without destroying the system. Then the Republican Establishment can say that they gave the new realignment a chance and it failed miserably.

    If the Establishment tries to run Paul Ryan at the convention, it seems like a high risk strategy with little potential pay-off and a high degree of downside if Trump voters abandon the Republican Party. If you view the political parties first and foremost as businesses, the Republican Party will have to assume low revenues in 2016 in order to reap the benefits after the Trump campaign. A Hillary Presidency would likely be great for fundraising, but have little downside in terms of policy for the Republican Establishment. Of course, it is quite possible that the Republican Party cannot think that far ahead and will spite its future prospects just to maintain the gravy train in 2016.

  6. I wanna see Trump v. Hillary debates but Cruz v. Sanders is a distant third.

  7. @iSteveFan
    Just out of curiosity how large are Cruz's rallies? Does he draw anywhere near the numbers Trump does? I just don't see how he is winning Wisconsin by 20 points. I know there is not a direct relationship between attending a rally and voting. But generally the guys who draw the big crowds are doing so because they are connecting. Is Cruz really connecting?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Fast Ed, @Alice

    Trump’s celebrity and being a reality TV star helps draw the crowds. He also gives entertaining speeches.

  8. I think it’s a push or maybe even good for Trump’s “narrative” though strategically near-fatal for getting the 1,237 (that is my dumbly parroting c.w. but someone more versed in this byzantine primary process can maybe explain why it is in fact fatal). There is a great deal of hurt ego out there among the subspecies of the conservative rank ‘n’ file, I call them “politics dweebs,” who probably each own at least 1 item of clothing/apparel with Mark Levin’s or Glenn Beck’s face on it, and going into the general it will help that this subspecies can nurse their wounds and feel they had some wins, made a statement, whatever. Note: I was anti-anti-Cruz for a long time but now that Koch/CoC have glommed on I say put a fork in him… Let the guy and his freaky wife return to Cap Hill to hector other old rich a-holes who don’t give a rat’s–these people deserve each other. Meanwhile Trump to me is so flawed and lacking in future tense that it’s actually incredible to ponder him becoming prez but I think the particle physics of him bouncing off GOPe once he’s in there could be very productive in spite of themselves. Note II: also growing more worried re: Trump’s odds against Hillary

    • Replies: @Bill
    @Sissyfuss

    This is a good link for why it's near fatal. Take away WI in that table, and Trump does not make 1,237. It's also not too clear where he can make it up.

  9. @iSteveFan
    Just out of curiosity how large are Cruz's rallies? Does he draw anywhere near the numbers Trump does? I just don't see how he is winning Wisconsin by 20 points. I know there is not a direct relationship between attending a rally and voting. But generally the guys who draw the big crowds are doing so because they are connecting. Is Cruz really connecting?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Fast Ed, @Alice

    Cruz’s rallies might not be as big as Trump’s, but Cruz has bigger hands. Trump has very, very small hands.

  10. Huskies! Yey! Stewie and the girls just shut it down. Love those Connecticut girls!

  11. @iSteveFan
    Just out of curiosity how large are Cruz's rallies? Does he draw anywhere near the numbers Trump does? I just don't see how he is winning Wisconsin by 20 points. I know there is not a direct relationship between attending a rally and voting. But generally the guys who draw the big crowds are doing so because they are connecting. Is Cruz really connecting?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Fast Ed, @Alice

    Cruz is not having anywhere near the crowds as Trump. Which calls in to question these results. Here is a video of the Monday Cruz rally in Waukesha County which is Scott Walker territory and heavy establishment republican/suburban voters. I would guess between 500-750 people.

  12. actually another good genre piece about the inanity of delegate counting here:

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-gops-wacky-delegate-rules-are-helping-trump/

  13. @iSteveFan
    Wisconsin Sucks

    Replies: @International Jew, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    Maybe better we be disappointed now, than have President Trump disappoint us by forgetting his whole immigration platform. The guy is a flake. I’m sorry to say that, I really wish he wasn’t.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @International Jew

    The guy is a flake. I’m sorry to say that, I really wish he wasn’t.

    He is not a flake. All you have to do is look at his wife, or wives, and his kids. The kids seem well adjusted. The wives have been pretty sharp and attractive ladies. Just because one has money doesn't mean he gets the nicest girl. Just look at Jeb!

    Trump is also a successful businessman who has the support of guys like Icahn. He wouldn't get that support if he were a flake.

    The reason you think he is a flake is because he has been under the microscope for 9 months. Not only that, but he has been under a hostile microscope. Think about how your perception of Trump would be if he were treated like the media treated Obama. Every hour of every day, every time he speaks, the media is out for that gotcha moment on Trump. That is a lot of pressure that I don't t think many of us could handle.

    The fact that Trump has not had a nervous breakdown is quite telling. He travels non-stop, sleeps 4 hours per night and almost never gives guarded answers. If anything that is his problem. He doesn't know when to pipe down. But I suppose he is learning. From his Hannity interview last night I think he realizes the last couple of weeks were tough and that he contributed to it.

    So no I don't think he is a flake. He is just a guy who has undergone more attacks than any other politician in recent memory. From his own party, the democrats, the president, the loons in the British parliament and even the pope, who hasn't attacked him? And he is still in first place and hasn't lost his mind yet!

    Replies: @Whiskey, @TangoMan, @Anonymous, @Lagertha, @Diversity Heretic

    , @TangoMan
    @International Jew

    Trump is his own worst enemy but I'm not seeing any other option for change.

    The Republicans are intent on Hispanic outreach but how, exactly, do they achieve this without going the racial bribes route? If Trump loses the powers that be will treat that as a voter repudiation of his agenda and they'll feel empowered to go full steam ahead with amnesty and other racial bribes which they think will work to bring in Hispanics.

    Also repudiated is white identity as a basis for a political movement. What follows is the racial bribes business comes at the expense of whites, in a who, whom contest.

    Everyday I wish there was a candidate other than Trump who was positioned with his popularity, independence and positions, but there isn't and because Trump's candidacy is such a black swan event, I can't see a path forward for a more typical politician who will have to depend on funding in order to get air time, so institutional interests are always going to be favored.

    It's Trump or bust. There is no upside to any other candidate and society is going to have to be more destabilized before institutional interests can be brought around to some of Trump's policies. I saw a report today that 70% of voters supported the Muslim ban. Trump is the only one who is independent enough to actually dare put something like that in place.

    Trump may well flake if he gets into office, but that's a better outcome than not getting into office, for his defeat repudiates his policies, while his reneging on the policies doesn't undermine their validity and appeal, the reneging simply becomes a reflection of Trump, the man, not the policy agenda he ran on.

    Replies: @Yeah, @asks for it, @AndrewR

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @International Jew

    Please list the non-flakes running for President.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    , @Yeah
    @International Jew

    There's truth to what you say my friend.

    , @Boethius
    @International Jew

    Of course he's a flake. And let's also note, he's discrediting any idea of a wall or increased immigration enforcement. There was a poll from Bloomberg a week or two ago where something like 38% of Americans favor building a wall across the southern border, with a majority opposed.

    Instead of being an important policy issue where the GOP establishment is outmaneuvering the public for lobbyist dollars, Donald Trump has turned the whole thing into just one of his portfolio items of buffoonery.

  14. http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/sanders-anti-trump-groups-hold-ad-spending-edge-wisconsin-n550921

    Cruz plus anti-Trump ad spending is $3.4M. Trump only spent $0.5M. If it looks, walks and quacks like a duck, it’s a duck. Cruz is the establishment candidate now.

    • Replies: @Boethius
    @Anonym

    Where's the money supposed to come for Donald Trump to contest a general election? He's promised to be self-funded, but he's really not. He doesn't have the money or the inclination to spend on a campaign.

    If you think he has a chance to beat Hillary or Bernie Sanders, I have a course from Trump University to sell you.

  15. Earlier tonight someone on Fox said only 5% of voters in Wisconsin consider immigration their most important issue. It must be infuriating to whites blessed with diversity to see how clueless and selfish other white people can be.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Matra


    It must be infuriating to whites blessed with diversity to see how clueless and selfish other white people can be.
     
    Even though WI has many whitopias, you would think they ALL know what has happened to Milwaukee. You would think they all know about the harassment whites go through at their annual state fair. Remember the Wisconsin Sex Offender list that was making the rounds a few years back?
    , @Stan d Mute
    @Matra


    Earlier tonight someone on Fox said only 5% of voters in Wisconsin consider immigration their most important issue. It must be infuriating to whites blessed with diversity to see how clueless and selfish other white people can be.
     
    That's really it isn't it? I was going to suggest "stupid" in place of "clueless" but what really is the difference - the net result is the same. You've got the brain dead Thumpers who think Rafael is "anointed" and for whom no amount of American blood and treasure is too much expended on Israel/Zion. These folks have a room temperature IQ and can't quite grasp that relitigating Roe v Wade while the crony capitalists and televangelists Hoover up every last shred of wealth from middle America is a self-defeating strategy. And of course the "selfish" who are doing the Hoovering and depositing mind-boggling sums are certainly not going to derail their own gravy train. As long as there are still rubes with liquid assets to grab, they'll keep promoting their "Look, rabbit!" misdirection which has served them so well for the past half century.

    The die has been cast and the rules of the game won't change. Long after the coming economic collapse, when the best career in America is scrap metal collecting, the oligarch "conservative" donor class will still be pimping "conservative" candidates running against homo marriage and demanding a couple more US aircraft carrier groups in the Persian gulf and eastern Med. The "clueless" will be handling snakes, speaking in tongues, and wearing magical underwear while waving American flags and proudly sending their kids off to die in the desert while casting their latest vote for the latest "anointed" candidate. Who cares about national debt or having a job when you just know that any second now your messiah will appear to hand you your own golden ticket to eternal Disneyland?

    Replies: @AndrewR

  16. This is the Trump campaign statement:

    “Donald J. Trump withstood the onslaught of the establishment yet again. Lyin’ Ted Cruz had the Governor of Wisconsin, many conservative talk radio show hosts, and the entire party apparatus behind him. Not only was he propelled by the anti-Trump Super PAC’s spending countless millions of dollars on false advertising against Mr. Trump, but he was coordinating `with his own Super PAC’s (which is illegal) who totally control him. Ted Cruz is worse than a puppet— he is a Trojan horse, being used by the party bosses attempting to steal the nomination from Mr. Trump. We have total confidence that Mr. Trump will go on to win in New York, where he holds a substantial lead in all the polls, and beyond. Mr. Trump is the only candidate who can secure the delegates needed to win the Republican nomination and ultimately defeat Hillary Clinton, or whomever is the Democratic nominee, in order to Make America Great Again.”

    And women should be punished.

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    @Buzz Mohawk


    “Donald J. Trump withstood the onslaught of the establishment yet again. Lyin’ Ted Cruz had the Governor of Wisconsin, many conservative talk radio show hosts, and the entire party apparatus behind him.
     
    Gov Walker survived two recall elections with the strong support of local talk radio. Wisconsin talk radio is very loyal to Walker and Walker is a big Cruz backer.

    Also IHeartMedia, the former Clear Channel, and their phony "Controlled Opposition" rising media star, the "Constitutionalist" Mark Levin are big backers of Ted Cruz apparently. Also Glenn Beck has a following in WI. and Beck is apesh*t for Cruz.


    6 Talk Radio Hosts Stopping Trump in Wisconsin
    http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/talk-radio-hosts-stop-trump/2016/04/05/id/722278/

    Last Wisconsin like Iowa is a state is where Cruz's "Cheap Grace" swarmy pandering (as Derbyshire likes to say) to the Religious Right on Abortion still carries weight with voters.

    On the positive side Wisconsin has lots anti-Globalist anti-establishment BernieBros who in the general election will not be voting for the Hildebeast. Perhaps instead of staying home they may come out and vote for Trump. If Trump gets the nomination he may still carry Wisconsin in the general.

    Replies: @iSteveFan

  17. Iowa, Utah, and now Wisconsin. Three of the most cucked states in the country.

    I had almost forgotten that Scott Walker was even a candidate early on.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Laguna Beach Fogey

    In Dane county, WI, home of the University of Wisconsin-Madison, Trump even almost lost it to Kasich: 30.3% vs 29.1%

    Ultimately, it was the populous Milwaukee area that made all the difference by voting for Cruz to the tune of 60+%

  18. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:

    Wisconsin is one crazy state …

    Let’s see what NY State does.

  19. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @iSteveFan
    Wisconsin Sucks

    Replies: @International Jew, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    Wisconsin Sucks

    Agree. With a low-IQed governor who got kicked out of Marquette for a ow GPA.

    Fuck flyover country. Fuck the GOP. I’ve voted straight Republican since 1984. It’s now only Trump or nothing for me. A non-Trump GOP candidate and I’ll vote Democrat or third party (especially if Trump goes third party). If the GOP establish #NeverTrump conglomeration of globalist special interests succeed then I will NEVER vote for a Republican again. And I will work tirelessly to support things which subvert them. Not that these establishment types give a shit, but they will when they try to live in a country which is a hodgepodge clusterfuck and their lives are degraded.

    • Replies: @Boethius
    @Anonymous

    It's ok. You can decide to be an American any day now.

    Replies: @Pericles

    , @Anonymous Nephew
    @Anonymous

    The conservative UK commentator Peter Hitchens has a similar view - never mind the UK Labour Party, it is the UK Conservative Party which must be destroyed if we ever wish to have a conservative party in power.

    The Conservative Party since 2010 has introduced homosexual marriage (not in their manifesto) and have presided over record levels of immigration (manifesto pledge to cut it to 'tens of thousands'). Cameron wants the UK to stay in the EU, and he also wants Turkey, that staunch NATO ally of ISIS, and its 75 million population, to join the EU. All EU citizens have the right to free movement between member states, and London already has a hefty Turkish population.

    His and Hollande's decision to send in the RAF and French planes to bomb Gaddafi has had two direct consequences for Europe - the flow of illegal infiltrator boats to Italy which is making that country look more like Senegal each day, and the massacre in Tunisia of scores of elderly British tourists, killed by Islamist 'fighters' armed and trained in Cameron's Libya.

    Oh, and he has been a loyal supporter of the US/EU/Saudi/Turkish/Gulf campaign to fund, arm and train 'opposition forces' to do to Syria what he's already done to Libya.

  20. @JZ
    This smells fishy. Cruz wins by 20% yet latest poll had him up by 4%

    No matter. On the 19th the northeast will be a sweep for Trump.

    Oh, and nary a mention in MSM of Cruz sex scandal. Incredible

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Twinkie

    I know, right? The northeast (and mid-Atlantic) is going to scare a lot of people after this Wisconsin blip; and, it is a blip.

    There was something dirty goin’ on about this primary in Wisconsin….something is fishy (yeah, I know, there was soooo much dirty money to torpedo Trump).

    Lyin’ Ted is just too oleaginous to ever, ever run again (he won’t get the Presidency), but he wants to take prisoners…do people (the Rubes) not see that? Is it just me who knows this guy is all about winning a debate club meet but sticking it to the USA? He is such a frightening person. I don’t want to think that the only antidote is just having Hilary run the show next 4 years after November election.

    What most Rubes out in the hinterlands, and pundits in the MSM don’t “get” is that Trump represents policy change. Policy change which is, actually, duh, needed. There are people from liberal, conservative, independent camps, who are yearning for “policy change.” Global warming, migrants, nuclear wingnut nations, scary Islamists, Zika, financial industries bubble & collapse – hiding and hoarding their assets in foreign banks; recession, loss of jobs period, should be making people feel very uncomfortable. Oh well.

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    @Lagertha


    There was something dirty goin’ on about this primary in Wisconsin….something is fishy (yeah, I know, there was soooo much dirty money to torpedo Trump).
     
    What exactly is the evidence that something dirty is going on? Trump lost Iowa, Minnesota and now Wisconsin. The gruff, brash, loud mouth New Yorker, Donald Trump, unsurprisingly underperforms in Midwestern Nice non-diverse areas. Trump's base is Scots-Irish areas from the Deep South up the Appalachian spine into the Northeast. Trump's appeal is to those who have been enriched by diversity.

    Never underestimate the pull of Christian evangelicals and the power of social conformity in that community.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Lagertha, @Jefferson

    , @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @Lagertha

    "Lyin’ Ted is just too oleaginous to ever, ever run again (he won’t get the Presidency)"

    I agree that Theodore Jehosophat Cruise (as I enjoy referring to him) will never, ever be President of the USA. But I'd be positively FLABBERGASTED if he doesn't run in the future. He is one power-hungry SOB, and he'll run again in 2020 and/or 2024.

  21. Trump just died tonight. This is the beginning of the end.

    The Cruz sex scandal is hogwash.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Tiny Duck

    Dick Suck - nice to hear from you again. Or not. You should up your meds.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Tiny Duck

    "Trump just died tonight. This is the beginning of the end."

    Nonsense. He will probably win New York and California. They're aren't many Colorados and Wisconsins left for Cruz to win in.

    "The Cruz sex scandal is hogwash."

    I don't think it is. I might be wrong of course. But I am still persuaded that it might be true. The National Enquirer has a pretty good record when it comes to reporting on the infidelities of politicians. At the least, I trust the National Enquirer more than I trust Ted Cruz.

    Replies: @Discordiax, @Discordiax, @Andie Freud

    , @epebble
    @Tiny Duck

    If the pattern continues, he may lose in Indiana (May 3rd) and Nebraska (May 10). So, it likely will end in open convention.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Boethius
    @Tiny Duck

    What scandal? Ted Cruz supposedly had sex with a some Washington staffwomen, according to National Enquirer? They got nothin'. It's irrelevant even if it's true.

    Replies: @Pericles, @Mr. Anon, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    , @Anon
    @Tiny Duck

    The former lawyer (Sibley) of that DC Madam (you know, the one who hanged herself) is attempting to release names from the client list. To quote, "Time is of the essence because people are casting votes in primaries and caucuses. I believe this information is relevant to that political discourse.” Who do you suppose he means? Hillary? Kasich? Sanders? Trump?

    Replies: @Andie Freud

  22. iSteveFan says:
    @International Jew
    @iSteveFan

    Maybe better we be disappointed now, than have President Trump disappoint us by forgetting his whole immigration platform. The guy is a flake. I'm sorry to say that, I really wish he wasn't.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @TangoMan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Yeah, @Boethius

    The guy is a flake. I’m sorry to say that, I really wish he wasn’t.

    He is not a flake. All you have to do is look at his wife, or wives, and his kids. The kids seem well adjusted. The wives have been pretty sharp and attractive ladies. Just because one has money doesn’t mean he gets the nicest girl. Just look at Jeb!

    Trump is also a successful businessman who has the support of guys like Icahn. He wouldn’t get that support if he were a flake.

    The reason you think he is a flake is because he has been under the microscope for 9 months. Not only that, but he has been under a hostile microscope. Think about how your perception of Trump would be if he were treated like the media treated Obama. Every hour of every day, every time he speaks, the media is out for that gotcha moment on Trump. That is a lot of pressure that I don’t t think many of us could handle.

    The fact that Trump has not had a nervous breakdown is quite telling. He travels non-stop, sleeps 4 hours per night and almost never gives guarded answers. If anything that is his problem. He doesn’t know when to pipe down. But I suppose he is learning. From his Hannity interview last night I think he realizes the last couple of weeks were tough and that he contributed to it.

    So no I don’t think he is a flake. He is just a guy who has undergone more attacks than any other politician in recent memory. From his own party, the democrats, the president, the loons in the British parliament and even the pope, who hasn’t attacked him? And he is still in first place and hasn’t lost his mind yet!

    • Agree: Anonym
    • Replies: @Whiskey
    @iSteveFan

    Cruz is in first place if you believe the Reuters poll. Nationally.

    Paul Ryan will be the nomineee, he's already boasting about it.

    Cruz made a deal to torpedo Trump in exchange for a donor sinecure.

    , @TangoMan
    @iSteveFan

    The reason you think he is a flake is because he has been under the microscope for 9 months. Not only that, but he has been under a hostile microscope. Think about how your perception of Trump would be if he were treated like the media treated Obama.

    No Republican is ever treated like Obama, so let's not spend time on trying to attain that outcome.

    Is it so fucking hard to develop policies you want to advance, understand them, and then advocate for them? Every other politician does this but Trump doesn't seem to want to study what his own campaign advisors develop for him and he's constantly flip-flopping, declaring that his positions are big opening bids for subsequent negotiations, thus undercutting the very appeal of his policies.

    Abortion is not a big issue this year but every politician needs to have his mind straight on the required rote answers that he needs to utter to placate his base. Trump manages to blow a gimme with his punish the women comment. I know exactly what he did, he argued from first principles, abortion is a crime, crime must be punished, so when abortion becomes illegal, it follows that women must be punished. Couldn't he, or someone on his staff, have picked up a phone over the last 9 months and gotten schooled on the nuances of the pro-life movement?

    Then he got caught sleeping at the switch in the delegate selection process as Cruz put his own people into Trump delegate slots.

    There is just a lot of neglect in so many areas of his campaign. There is a lot of sense to many of his policies, but bad execution on his part is leaving lots of money on the table.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Anonymous, @Lagertha, @rod1963

    , @Anonymous
    @iSteveFan

    Icahn is an infamous corporate raider from the 80s. He's the type responsible for the economic devastation of the country over the past 40 years. If you think Romney business career was bad, this guy was a million times worse and started the rot.

    Trump brings up Icahn because Icahn bailed out Trump's casion and other assets when he went bankrupt.

    Replies: @EriK

    , @Lagertha
    @iSteveFan

    Totally agree with you. However, now Trump needs to be more measured in his responses to ALL the "take downs." Even my young adult sons (impulsiveness) know when they are being punked. He should not have walked into the quicksand of "abortion," in fact, stay away from policies that no one gives a sh*t about right now, during the election year.

    Wisconsin is in really, really bad shape...Milwaukee is close to Detroit as far as its financial bad health, so, the disparaging remarks of "flyover states," is pretty apt for Wisconsin. Walker has devastated Wisconsin's future with his very stupid (he's a world-class, embarrassing, dummy) policies. And, because Wisconsin still has so many reticent, conformist Lutherans, well...they just don't "get it" because of their LACK of anger even when they are clearly being screwed. Makes me sick to see such stupid people ruin their children's and grandchildren's lives ( I am Scandinavian so I can blast my own kind) and vote for people who don't give a rat's ass about them or the USA. It's all about money. It is ALWAYS all about money.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Yeah

    , @Diversity Heretic
    @iSteveFan

    If he's really sleeping only four hours a night, there's trouble ahead. He turns seventy this year. That kind of a pace is impossible for anyone to maintain. I hope that Melania has enough influence to intervene and calm things down--that's a genuinely important role for a candidate's wife or a First Lady for that matter.

  23. The interesting thing is there will be an open (contested) convention on Republican side. There may be open convention on Democratic side also if Sanders keeps up the momentum and has an upset in NY. Summer 2016 will be interesting.

    One other thing is , whether Trump gets nominated or not, the Republican party is pretty much destroyed. That alone is interesting since birth and death of parties is an epochal event. We may even end up with more than two parties in future as in most other countries.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/433102/donald-trump-republican-party-trumpism-will-end-tears

    Trump’s interesting observations from Washington Post interview: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/04/02/transcript-donald-trump-interview-with-bob-woodward-and-robert-costa/

    BW: And why did Lincoln succeed? Thought about that at all?

    DT: Well, I think Lincoln succeeded for numerous reasons. He was a man who was of great intelligence, which most presidents would be. But he was a man of great intelligence, but he was also a man that did something that was a very vital thing to do at that time. Ten years before or 20 years before, what he was doing would never have even been thought possible. So he did something that was a very important thing to do, and especially at that time. And Nixon failed, I think to a certain extent, because of his personality. You know? It was just that personality. Very severe, very exclusive. In other words, people couldn’t come in. And people didn’t like him. I mean, people didn’t like him.

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    @epebble

    I saw those remarks savaged as nonsense by someone, somewhere. To me they appear the remarks of someone focused on actions and responses. Not concise, but sensible.

    , @Lagertha
    @epebble

    exactly. Finland had 7 parties in the early 2000's...now 8. More parties are a boon. As an independent, I have always hated the American system since I am utterly liberal in social policies but utterly conservative with fiscal/international/security/immigration/ policies.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @celt darnell

  24. @International Jew
    @iSteveFan

    Maybe better we be disappointed now, than have President Trump disappoint us by forgetting his whole immigration platform. The guy is a flake. I'm sorry to say that, I really wish he wasn't.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @TangoMan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Yeah, @Boethius

    Trump is his own worst enemy but I’m not seeing any other option for change.

    The Republicans are intent on Hispanic outreach but how, exactly, do they achieve this without going the racial bribes route? If Trump loses the powers that be will treat that as a voter repudiation of his agenda and they’ll feel empowered to go full steam ahead with amnesty and other racial bribes which they think will work to bring in Hispanics.

    Also repudiated is white identity as a basis for a political movement. What follows is the racial bribes business comes at the expense of whites, in a who, whom contest.

    Everyday I wish there was a candidate other than Trump who was positioned with his popularity, independence and positions, but there isn’t and because Trump’s candidacy is such a black swan event, I can’t see a path forward for a more typical politician who will have to depend on funding in order to get air time, so institutional interests are always going to be favored.

    It’s Trump or bust. There is no upside to any other candidate and society is going to have to be more destabilized before institutional interests can be brought around to some of Trump’s policies. I saw a report today that 70% of voters supported the Muslim ban. Trump is the only one who is independent enough to actually dare put something like that in place.

    Trump may well flake if he gets into office, but that’s a better outcome than not getting into office, for his defeat repudiates his policies, while his reneging on the policies doesn’t undermine their validity and appeal, the reneging simply becomes a reflection of Trump, the man, not the policy agenda he ran on.

    • Replies: @Yeah
    @TangoMan

    That last paragraph is well said.

    , @asks for it
    @TangoMan

    "Trump’s candidacy is such a black swan event"

    He has also exemplified Taleb's notion of anti-fragility. Can it last?

    , @AndrewR
    @TangoMan

    Bernie has had a great deal of success without self-funding. Do you think he is bought off? Obviously the Wall Street types hate him but I could see Soros and similar (((globalists))) supporting him. Bernie's capitulation to BLM terrorists shows he is not exceptionally principled.

  25. I knew Wisconsin would vote like Iowa and the rest of the Midwest. It’s the heart of Cuckistan, after all.

  26. All those well-adjusted family-oriented Whites fleeing IL and especially high tax crime ridden bankrupt Chicagoland are going to help Cruz in WI (along Lake Michigan) and IN later.

    http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/wi/Rep

    You also can’t get a more well-adjusted All-American male community than Brown County (Green Bay) that voted Cruz.

  27. @iSteveFan
    @International Jew

    The guy is a flake. I’m sorry to say that, I really wish he wasn’t.

    He is not a flake. All you have to do is look at his wife, or wives, and his kids. The kids seem well adjusted. The wives have been pretty sharp and attractive ladies. Just because one has money doesn't mean he gets the nicest girl. Just look at Jeb!

    Trump is also a successful businessman who has the support of guys like Icahn. He wouldn't get that support if he were a flake.

    The reason you think he is a flake is because he has been under the microscope for 9 months. Not only that, but he has been under a hostile microscope. Think about how your perception of Trump would be if he were treated like the media treated Obama. Every hour of every day, every time he speaks, the media is out for that gotcha moment on Trump. That is a lot of pressure that I don't t think many of us could handle.

    The fact that Trump has not had a nervous breakdown is quite telling. He travels non-stop, sleeps 4 hours per night and almost never gives guarded answers. If anything that is his problem. He doesn't know when to pipe down. But I suppose he is learning. From his Hannity interview last night I think he realizes the last couple of weeks were tough and that he contributed to it.

    So no I don't think he is a flake. He is just a guy who has undergone more attacks than any other politician in recent memory. From his own party, the democrats, the president, the loons in the British parliament and even the pope, who hasn't attacked him? And he is still in first place and hasn't lost his mind yet!

    Replies: @Whiskey, @TangoMan, @Anonymous, @Lagertha, @Diversity Heretic

    Cruz is in first place if you believe the Reuters poll. Nationally.

    Paul Ryan will be the nomineee, he’s already boasting about it.

    Cruz made a deal to torpedo Trump in exchange for a donor sinecure.

  28. @iSteveFan
    Just out of curiosity how large are Cruz's rallies? Does he draw anywhere near the numbers Trump does? I just don't see how he is winning Wisconsin by 20 points. I know there is not a direct relationship between attending a rally and voting. But generally the guys who draw the big crowds are doing so because they are connecting. Is Cruz really connecting?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Fast Ed, @Alice

    Trump insulted Walker. Wisconsites don’t like big city bombastic types to come and insult their guy. Maybe their guy was milquetoast. Maybe their guy wasn’t ready for media attention. But he was Their Guy, Their Kinda Guy. And Ryan, too, is their guy. And Trump attacked him, too.

    Maybe Cruz isn’t connecting. But maybe it was a repudiation.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Alice


    And Ryan, too, is their guy.
     
    Yet in 2012 WI didn't even vote for the GOP despite their guy being on the ticket.
    , @Another Canadian
    @Alice


    Wisconsites don’t like big city bombastic types to come and insult their guy.

     

    I worked on a job outside Milwaukee for 9 months back in the 90s. The people were very nice, low conflict get-along types, a lot like the WASP in-laws in My Big Fat Greek Wedding. Bundt cakes and potted plants and always use your inside voice. It was the only time in all my travels that I had a visit from the Welcome Wagon, bringing a basket of goodies provided by the local merchants. I thought there was a good fit between Cheese-Heads and Canadians...similar personalities, outlook on life and worldview, a very Northern European Social Democratic point of view.

    Maybe when the U.S. has its inevitable crack-up Wisconsin will become a Canadian province.

    Replies: @SteveO

  29. The key thing to remember in this is that the primary process is a marathon and not a sprint. Cruz has won what, 4 states? Cruz has no chance to even win a plurality of votes.

    If Trump is denied the nomination, I hope he runs third party and spoils it for the GOPe.

  30. Never underestimate the stupidity of the average Republican. They voted for Ford over Reagan in ’76. 40% voted for Bush over Reagan in 1980. And they nominated:

    – Bush in ’88
    -Dole in ’96
    -McCain in ’08
    -Romney in ’12

    And about 40% wanted McCain in 2000 ’cause Bush II was too ‘radical’ for them. Seriously, about 40% of Republicans are status quo, don’t rock the boat, everything’s fine, let’s just cut the capital gains tax and pray to Jesus dimwits.

    Take away Reagan and you’re looking at the party of Nixon and 50 years of failure. And loving it.

    • Agree: Vendetta
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Honesthughgrant

    ",everything’s fine, let’s just cut the capital gains tax and pray to Jesus dimwits."

    The ones pray-to-Jesus crowd and the capital gains cutters (the plutocrats, country-club and chamber-of-commerce types) are mostly two different groups within the Republican Party.

    , @athEIst
    @Honesthughgrant

    Bush in ’88.
    I think you mean Bush in 1992.
    Bush in ’88 won.
    Bush in ’92 lost,

  31. @Hepp
    Josh Barro tweeted something very interesting today. The Republican primary was actually easy to predict all along if you just went with the polls. Saying that Trump can win the general because everyone doubted he'd win the primary assumes a change in the polls.

    I fear the man might be too damaged to win.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @CommentGuy, @Kevin O'Keeffe, @Olorin

    There have actually been many changes in the Republican primary polls, owing greatly to the number of candidates, but also in reaction to Trump. The general is a different game, and Trump is right when he says that he hasn’t yet shifted full Trumpism in her direction.

  32. @iSteveFan
    @International Jew

    The guy is a flake. I’m sorry to say that, I really wish he wasn’t.

    He is not a flake. All you have to do is look at his wife, or wives, and his kids. The kids seem well adjusted. The wives have been pretty sharp and attractive ladies. Just because one has money doesn't mean he gets the nicest girl. Just look at Jeb!

    Trump is also a successful businessman who has the support of guys like Icahn. He wouldn't get that support if he were a flake.

    The reason you think he is a flake is because he has been under the microscope for 9 months. Not only that, but he has been under a hostile microscope. Think about how your perception of Trump would be if he were treated like the media treated Obama. Every hour of every day, every time he speaks, the media is out for that gotcha moment on Trump. That is a lot of pressure that I don't t think many of us could handle.

    The fact that Trump has not had a nervous breakdown is quite telling. He travels non-stop, sleeps 4 hours per night and almost never gives guarded answers. If anything that is his problem. He doesn't know when to pipe down. But I suppose he is learning. From his Hannity interview last night I think he realizes the last couple of weeks were tough and that he contributed to it.

    So no I don't think he is a flake. He is just a guy who has undergone more attacks than any other politician in recent memory. From his own party, the democrats, the president, the loons in the British parliament and even the pope, who hasn't attacked him? And he is still in first place and hasn't lost his mind yet!

    Replies: @Whiskey, @TangoMan, @Anonymous, @Lagertha, @Diversity Heretic

    The reason you think he is a flake is because he has been under the microscope for 9 months. Not only that, but he has been under a hostile microscope. Think about how your perception of Trump would be if he were treated like the media treated Obama.

    No Republican is ever treated like Obama, so let’s not spend time on trying to attain that outcome.

    Is it so fucking hard to develop policies you want to advance, understand them, and then advocate for them? Every other politician does this but Trump doesn’t seem to want to study what his own campaign advisors develop for him and he’s constantly flip-flopping, declaring that his positions are big opening bids for subsequent negotiations, thus undercutting the very appeal of his policies.

    Abortion is not a big issue this year but every politician needs to have his mind straight on the required rote answers that he needs to utter to placate his base. Trump manages to blow a gimme with his punish the women comment. I know exactly what he did, he argued from first principles, abortion is a crime, crime must be punished, so when abortion becomes illegal, it follows that women must be punished. Couldn’t he, or someone on his staff, have picked up a phone over the last 9 months and gotten schooled on the nuances of the pro-life movement?

    Then he got caught sleeping at the switch in the delegate selection process as Cruz put his own people into Trump delegate slots.

    There is just a lot of neglect in so many areas of his campaign. There is a lot of sense to many of his policies, but bad execution on his part is leaving lots of money on the table.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @TangoMan


    No Republican is ever treated like Obama, so let’s not spend time on trying to attain that outcome.
     
    Forget Obama. What about Bernie? What about Kasich? What about Cruz? None of them has endured what Trump has endured.

    Replies: @TangoMan, @AndrewR

    , @Anonymous
    @TangoMan

    He's been winging it too much, and his campaign staffers have acknowledged that he pretty much wings it. He's obviously good at winging it, but winging it can only take you so far after so many months, and you have to bone up at some point.

    Talking about NATO over the past couple weeks didn't help either. Ordinary voters don't care about NATO, and most don't even know what it stands for. I don't really know what he was thinking there.

    , @Lagertha
    @TangoMan

    agree with everything you said. It seems (from his behavior these last 2 weeks) Trump really didn't believe he would get this far. This fact worries me. I was hoping he could now see that he must muster up the courage to actually, run for President. But, the fact that he got trapped in superficial snafus about social policies makes me believe that he is, unfortunately, not the real deal. Meaning, he really has never wanted to be President. So, now, what do we do.?...what is plan B? I think this is the first time in 35 years that I will not vote. I can't vote for Hillary and I won't vote for Cruz. Most of my closest friends are upset with me anyway, that I am for Trump...but now they are angry with me that I will not vote.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @unpc downunder

    , @rod1963
    @TangoMan

    I agree with all that. Problem is you can't say any of that at Pro-Trump sites because they go nuts. They think Trump is infallible. He's not, he's shot himself in the foot more than once. His failure to fund a serious ground game in the fly over states hurt him badly - all because he's a cheap ass, his failure to address certain issues in some degree of specificity in public in a non flip flop manner like H1-B visa workers. In one debate he said he supported bringing in more H1-B workers then said the opposite afterwards.

    I suspect he doesn't listen to his advisers much or even read his position papers.

    His rallies are all the same, he gives a generic rah, rah speech with next to zero specifics. It's not bad, but with no ground game and ad campaign to follow it up, it fails to bring him the wins he needs.

    His interviews aren't much better, broad generalities and no specifics on much of anything. It's not a confidence builder at all.

    And what the hell was he doing even talking to Chris Matthews anyways. Was Trump taking his stupid pills or something? Mr. Tingly hates Trump and ambushed him good. And abortion is a serious hot button issue and he blew it. Even Roger Stone said as much in a polite manner.

    And yeah on delegate selection he's totally blown it. He let Cruz carve him up on this. I guess he couldn't be bothered to hire the talent and invest the resource to make sure delegate flipping didn't happen.

    He's so desperate for free PR he goes on every two bit radio or tv talk show he can find. All it does it bite him.

    All these little wounds add up.

    One other thing, He needs to show a more presidential persona in his rallies and selected interviews, he needs to tone down the rah, rah stuff and start talking like a statesmen. It really does impress a lot of people when it's done right.

    Replies: @TangoMan, @Twinkie, @Bert, @Boethius

  33. @Lagertha
    @JZ

    I know, right? The northeast (and mid-Atlantic) is going to scare a lot of people after this Wisconsin blip; and, it is a blip.

    There was something dirty goin' on about this primary in Wisconsin....something is fishy (yeah, I know, there was soooo much dirty money to torpedo Trump).

    Lyin' Ted is just too oleaginous to ever, ever run again (he won't get the Presidency), but he wants to take prisoners...do people (the Rubes) not see that? Is it just me who knows this guy is all about winning a debate club meet but sticking it to the USA? He is such a frightening person. I don't want to think that the only antidote is just having Hilary run the show next 4 years after November election.

    What most Rubes out in the hinterlands, and pundits in the MSM don't "get" is that Trump represents policy change. Policy change which is, actually, duh, needed. There are people from liberal, conservative, independent camps, who are yearning for "policy change." Global warming, migrants, nuclear wingnut nations, scary Islamists, Zika, financial industries bubble & collapse - hiding and hoarding their assets in foreign banks; recession, loss of jobs period, should be making people feel very uncomfortable. Oh well.

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    There was something dirty goin’ on about this primary in Wisconsin….something is fishy (yeah, I know, there was soooo much dirty money to torpedo Trump).

    What exactly is the evidence that something dirty is going on? Trump lost Iowa, Minnesota and now Wisconsin. The gruff, brash, loud mouth New Yorker, Donald Trump, unsurprisingly underperforms in Midwestern Nice non-diverse areas. Trump’s base is Scots-Irish areas from the Deep South up the Appalachian spine into the Northeast. Trump’s appeal is to those who have been enriched by diversity.

    Never underestimate the pull of Christian evangelicals and the power of social conformity in that community.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Clifford Brown


    Never underestimate the pull of Christian evangelicals and the power of social conformity in that community.
     
    But Evangelicals have been going with Trump, much to the chagrin of Glenn Beck.
    , @Lagertha
    @Clifford Brown

    We all know about torpedoing - give me a break. After the summit in coastal Georgia, it was obvious that Trump would be taken apart.....without bodily harm, perhaps; albeit, it was a meeting to "take him out."

    As a Scandinavian, I am ridiculing the mid-western states like Wisconsin that have been falling apart financially for decades. That these stupid-ass states would allow themselves to become further impoverished by allowing "old style" Republican party candidates to govern them (fool them) is their loss and their sword to fall down on - I don't care - and not my problem. If people believe in stupidity, they are left alone to their devices.


    I would never even want kids going to college in these states that may have poor water quality on their campus, not to mention impoverished universities. The mid-west is becoming irrelevant, so, the people who love it and live there, better start thinking realistically how they will continue to exist there and retire. I don't think any of their kids have a future there unless they are happy with minimum wage service industry - that's their reality.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Jefferson
    @Clifford Brown

    "Trump’s base is Scots-Irish areas from the Deep South up the Appalachian spine into the Northeast. Trump’s appeal is to those who have been enriched by diversity."

    Appalachia is racially diverse? As in Chicago level diverse?

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

  34. In Wisconsin, Trump did all the heavy lifting for Cruz by affirming that he was the Establishment GOP candidate. WI is RINO central for a reason. All those small family owned farms which make up a large part of the state GOP political ecosystem are usually on the winning end of really bad international trade deals. Yeah, Illinois may lose Caterpillar Tractor to Mexico but WI gets to export all their soy, ginseng, and cheese to China and Japan.

    Janesville voted Paul Ryan into office and kept him there. Enough said.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @JimB

    Asians import Wisconsin ginseng and soy??? What????

  35. iSteveFan says:
    @Matra
    Earlier tonight someone on Fox said only 5% of voters in Wisconsin consider immigration their most important issue. It must be infuriating to whites blessed with diversity to see how clueless and selfish other white people can be.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Stan d Mute

    It must be infuriating to whites blessed with diversity to see how clueless and selfish other white people can be.

    Even though WI has many whitopias, you would think they ALL know what has happened to Milwaukee. You would think they all know about the harassment whites go through at their annual state fair. Remember the Wisconsin Sex Offender list that was making the rounds a few years back?

  36. I don’t care what they say. Cruz is a Canadian!

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Fidelios Automata

    He's a Canarian-Cuban-Canadian-Irish-Italian-Texan-American evangelicuck Zionist.

  37. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    It is scary to see how well the anti-Trump campaign in the MSM was executed.

    In the end, Trump has only himself to blame. He tried to win on the cheap in too many places and he could not keep his mouth shut when a little self-restrain was in order.

    I guess nobody in the MSM will be complaining about results. The hysteria about “voter suppression” (a.k.a the idea that only known citizens are allowed to vote) will be laid to rest for few months now. Only to resume in earnest in the fall, of course.

  38. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @iSteveFan
    @International Jew

    The guy is a flake. I’m sorry to say that, I really wish he wasn’t.

    He is not a flake. All you have to do is look at his wife, or wives, and his kids. The kids seem well adjusted. The wives have been pretty sharp and attractive ladies. Just because one has money doesn't mean he gets the nicest girl. Just look at Jeb!

    Trump is also a successful businessman who has the support of guys like Icahn. He wouldn't get that support if he were a flake.

    The reason you think he is a flake is because he has been under the microscope for 9 months. Not only that, but he has been under a hostile microscope. Think about how your perception of Trump would be if he were treated like the media treated Obama. Every hour of every day, every time he speaks, the media is out for that gotcha moment on Trump. That is a lot of pressure that I don't t think many of us could handle.

    The fact that Trump has not had a nervous breakdown is quite telling. He travels non-stop, sleeps 4 hours per night and almost never gives guarded answers. If anything that is his problem. He doesn't know when to pipe down. But I suppose he is learning. From his Hannity interview last night I think he realizes the last couple of weeks were tough and that he contributed to it.

    So no I don't think he is a flake. He is just a guy who has undergone more attacks than any other politician in recent memory. From his own party, the democrats, the president, the loons in the British parliament and even the pope, who hasn't attacked him? And he is still in first place and hasn't lost his mind yet!

    Replies: @Whiskey, @TangoMan, @Anonymous, @Lagertha, @Diversity Heretic

    Icahn is an infamous corporate raider from the 80s. He’s the type responsible for the economic devastation of the country over the past 40 years. If you think Romney business career was bad, this guy was a million times worse and started the rot.

    Trump brings up Icahn because Icahn bailed out Trump’s casion and other assets when he went bankrupt.

    • Replies: @EriK
    @Anonymous

    Nonsense.

  39. An entirely avoidable defeat cause by Trump’s constant flip-flopping and total inability to stop tweeting about random people he doesn’t like. I’m honestly starting to wonder if this isn’t actually just an ego drive, because any real candidate would have stopped this shit ages ago. The fact that the Heidi Cruz debacle arguably cost him the state (he was leading in polls prior to it) just drives home the point.

    Granted I’m still going to vote for him and I like what he stands for, but he needs to put up or shut up.

    • Replies: @CommentGuy
    @Bert

    The "Heidi Cruz debacle" had nothing to do with Trump losing Wisconsin, and that kind of comment is so off as to be suspicious. The most material contributor to the WI loss, other than broad cultural factors, was the media almost completely punting on the opportunity to rake Ted Cruz, a hypocritical bible-thumping serial cheater, over the coals. The media's treatment of the Cruz sex scandal is almost impossible to fathom in this day and age and suggests something very sneaky is afoot.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Bert

  40. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Hepp

    The Establishment is going to try to hang on to power even if it means the direct repudiation of the voters' expressed will, even if means throwing the results of the election in the wastebasket. Under such circumstances, the whole idea of "winning elections" is not really well defined. The Trump campaign is about a whole new realignment of the American political situation that is occurring over and above the business-as-usual of electoral politics.

    Replies: @rod1963, @Clifford Brown

    Now you realize the old, rich white dudes calling the shots don’t really care what the proles think and do.

    Telling blue collar and middle-class whites their vote is meaningless doesn’t mean squat to them. The elites know there is little to fear from folks hunting them down. White Americans aren’t at that place yet where they push back hard. Though I think it’s getting closer as the elites are so openly contemptuous of the American people. Before they carefully hid their contempt through a slick PR system, but now…

    Trump did that much, exposed the cretins behind the green curtain and showing what a complete fraud our political and media system is. Basically the current system amounts to a flock of sheep voting for which wolf they want to devour them. While the MSM cheers on the butchery.

    • Replies: @Boethius
    @rod1963

    I don't know if I believe that or not. But if I did, who can blame them really. It's hard to have a whole lot of sympathy for people who are going to send America down the drain for the sake of Donald Fucking Trump.

    Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...

  41. @TangoMan
    @iSteveFan

    The reason you think he is a flake is because he has been under the microscope for 9 months. Not only that, but he has been under a hostile microscope. Think about how your perception of Trump would be if he were treated like the media treated Obama.

    No Republican is ever treated like Obama, so let's not spend time on trying to attain that outcome.

    Is it so fucking hard to develop policies you want to advance, understand them, and then advocate for them? Every other politician does this but Trump doesn't seem to want to study what his own campaign advisors develop for him and he's constantly flip-flopping, declaring that his positions are big opening bids for subsequent negotiations, thus undercutting the very appeal of his policies.

    Abortion is not a big issue this year but every politician needs to have his mind straight on the required rote answers that he needs to utter to placate his base. Trump manages to blow a gimme with his punish the women comment. I know exactly what he did, he argued from first principles, abortion is a crime, crime must be punished, so when abortion becomes illegal, it follows that women must be punished. Couldn't he, or someone on his staff, have picked up a phone over the last 9 months and gotten schooled on the nuances of the pro-life movement?

    Then he got caught sleeping at the switch in the delegate selection process as Cruz put his own people into Trump delegate slots.

    There is just a lot of neglect in so many areas of his campaign. There is a lot of sense to many of his policies, but bad execution on his part is leaving lots of money on the table.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Anonymous, @Lagertha, @rod1963

    No Republican is ever treated like Obama, so let’s not spend time on trying to attain that outcome.

    Forget Obama. What about Bernie? What about Kasich? What about Cruz? None of them has endured what Trump has endured.

    • Replies: @TangoMan
    @iSteveFan

    Everyone else has a personality like drying paint, so they're not going to get coverage. Trump is newsworthy in his own right and so gets coverage one way or the other, the problem is that Trump is shooting himself in the foot so damn often that the coverage he was going to get anyway gets diverted onto his cock-ups.

    It's these screw-ups which are playing a large part in alienating people who could/should vote for him. There are, essentially, two groups of opponents, those who disagree with what he's saying and those who think he's unfit for office. He could address the concerns of the latter group by showing that he can, indeed, master the nuance of policy. I was cutting him a lot of slack, I figured that he was bombastic in the beginning in order to clear the field, that this way buying him time to go deep on policy, to build up the campaign staff, and that we'd see a more in-depth Trump, but my patience is running thin.

    People ragged on Palin but I defended her because I had actually seen her demonstrate mastery on Alaska's energy politics, so I knew she could go deep on policy and perform her job and once schooled on other topics could do the same. I'm not seeing even unschooled Palin, winging it, kind of policy mastery from Trump. In the tread on Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos someone posted a video of her giving a presentation and the buzzwords were flying and that's what I'm seeing from Trump. I'd bet that there are hundreds of us in the Steve-o-sphere who could take his issues and clean the clocks of opponents who challenged his positions but Trump isn't doing that.

    Trump is going to get covered because he has a big personality and he's engaging. He'd be doing us all a favor if that coverage was focused on substance rather than tweeting pictures of Cruz's wife or alienating the pro-life crowd. Talk more about disbanding NATO. Show us that there is some damn thought behind the idea. Let's talk about what a post-NATO world would look like. That'll get lots of coverage. Talk about SCOTUS precedent for the Executive banning people from entering/immigrating to the US due to ideological positions and then make the case that Islam, religion of any kind, is simply a subset of a larger category we call ideology. Explain why the freedoms we extend to religion within the US do not have to be extended to people outside of our borders. I guarantee you that Trump talking about any of that is going to stir up controversy and will get lots of coverage but it will recast him to be a more substantive man instead of a boor.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Twinkie, @SteveO, @The most deplorable one

    , @AndrewR
    @iSteveFan

    None of them are the front runners and the establishment would prefer any of them to Trump. Bernie and Cruz are very malleable.

  42. @iSteveFan
    @International Jew

    The guy is a flake. I’m sorry to say that, I really wish he wasn’t.

    He is not a flake. All you have to do is look at his wife, or wives, and his kids. The kids seem well adjusted. The wives have been pretty sharp and attractive ladies. Just because one has money doesn't mean he gets the nicest girl. Just look at Jeb!

    Trump is also a successful businessman who has the support of guys like Icahn. He wouldn't get that support if he were a flake.

    The reason you think he is a flake is because he has been under the microscope for 9 months. Not only that, but he has been under a hostile microscope. Think about how your perception of Trump would be if he were treated like the media treated Obama. Every hour of every day, every time he speaks, the media is out for that gotcha moment on Trump. That is a lot of pressure that I don't t think many of us could handle.

    The fact that Trump has not had a nervous breakdown is quite telling. He travels non-stop, sleeps 4 hours per night and almost never gives guarded answers. If anything that is his problem. He doesn't know when to pipe down. But I suppose he is learning. From his Hannity interview last night I think he realizes the last couple of weeks were tough and that he contributed to it.

    So no I don't think he is a flake. He is just a guy who has undergone more attacks than any other politician in recent memory. From his own party, the democrats, the president, the loons in the British parliament and even the pope, who hasn't attacked him? And he is still in first place and hasn't lost his mind yet!

    Replies: @Whiskey, @TangoMan, @Anonymous, @Lagertha, @Diversity Heretic

    Totally agree with you. However, now Trump needs to be more measured in his responses to ALL the “take downs.” Even my young adult sons (impulsiveness) know when they are being punked. He should not have walked into the quicksand of “abortion,” in fact, stay away from policies that no one gives a sh*t about right now, during the election year.

    Wisconsin is in really, really bad shape…Milwaukee is close to Detroit as far as its financial bad health, so, the disparaging remarks of “flyover states,” is pretty apt for Wisconsin. Walker has devastated Wisconsin’s future with his very stupid (he’s a world-class, embarrassing, dummy) policies. And, because Wisconsin still has so many reticent, conformist Lutherans, well…they just don’t “get it” because of their LACK of anger even when they are clearly being screwed. Makes me sick to see such stupid people ruin their children’s and grandchildren’s lives ( I am Scandinavian so I can blast my own kind) and vote for people who don’t give a rat’s ass about them or the USA. It’s all about money. It is ALWAYS all about money.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Lagertha

    If you can, watch a rerun of last night's (4Apr16) Hannity show on Fox. Trump was on the full hour. He acknowledged he should not have tweeted out that stuff that caused the big distraction over the past two weeks. His wife was on as well and she said Donald's problem is he tweets too much and she wants to keep him off twitter.

    I took this to mean that Trump and his wife know that he hosed things up with his impulsiveness. Hopefully he learns and focuses in on NY. Trump thrives off winning. It juices him up. And NY is the next battle and he stands to win big. Hopefully he will regain his mojo.

    , @Yeah
    @Lagertha

    Nice rant.

  43. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @TangoMan
    @iSteveFan

    The reason you think he is a flake is because he has been under the microscope for 9 months. Not only that, but he has been under a hostile microscope. Think about how your perception of Trump would be if he were treated like the media treated Obama.

    No Republican is ever treated like Obama, so let's not spend time on trying to attain that outcome.

    Is it so fucking hard to develop policies you want to advance, understand them, and then advocate for them? Every other politician does this but Trump doesn't seem to want to study what his own campaign advisors develop for him and he's constantly flip-flopping, declaring that his positions are big opening bids for subsequent negotiations, thus undercutting the very appeal of his policies.

    Abortion is not a big issue this year but every politician needs to have his mind straight on the required rote answers that he needs to utter to placate his base. Trump manages to blow a gimme with his punish the women comment. I know exactly what he did, he argued from first principles, abortion is a crime, crime must be punished, so when abortion becomes illegal, it follows that women must be punished. Couldn't he, or someone on his staff, have picked up a phone over the last 9 months and gotten schooled on the nuances of the pro-life movement?

    Then he got caught sleeping at the switch in the delegate selection process as Cruz put his own people into Trump delegate slots.

    There is just a lot of neglect in so many areas of his campaign. There is a lot of sense to many of his policies, but bad execution on his part is leaving lots of money on the table.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Anonymous, @Lagertha, @rod1963

    He’s been winging it too much, and his campaign staffers have acknowledged that he pretty much wings it. He’s obviously good at winging it, but winging it can only take you so far after so many months, and you have to bone up at some point.

    Talking about NATO over the past couple weeks didn’t help either. Ordinary voters don’t care about NATO, and most don’t even know what it stands for. I don’t really know what he was thinking there.

  44. The odd thing about this Republican election is that you have Rush Limbaugh and the rest of talk radio along with National Review continuously pushing that Cruz is the most “conservative” and Donald Trump is not a conservative but a liberal.

  45. This is the first time I can remember a political party trying to damage their own leading candidate. It is not that they are backing someone else, that has happened before, but they are trying to damage Trump. They want him to lose, if he wins the nomination. Their criticism is relentless and is having an effect. I hear people questionong Trump’s conservatism. These were Bush voters. Well I would not vote for Cruz in the general. He reminds me of a tent preacher and he is just as phony. He is a complete fraud on immigration and his recent paean to NATO, an utter waste of money designed to give generals a good tour of duty in Europe, was the kind of robotic thinking that has walked America to the edge of a cliff. Trump was right, although it might have been better to simply ask why are we paying money to defend a wealthy Europe from …a Soviet tank attack?

    • Replies: @Ed
    @Cwhatfuture

    "This is the first time I can remember a political party trying to damage their own leading candidate."

    I just skimmed through the comments, and # 45 is the best. Chris Matthews has been making a similar point.

    Usually what happens when a candidate does as well in the early primary and caucus contests as Trump is that the party establishment gets behind that candidate and the voters in the later contests are told to "fall in line" (this was the phrase actually used by the Democrats in 2004) to get behind that candidate so everyone can focus on the general election. This despite the fact that technically the convention decides the nomination and the leading candidate takes awhile to get a majority of the delegates. Sometimes a single alternative candidate keeps going in the later primaries to offer Washington Generals style opposition, and is allowed to make a speech at the convention.

    The Democrats did have two movements that were sort of like the stop Trump movement in the 1970s, when the electoral system was more open. There were late, poorly co-ordinated efforts to stop McGovern and Carter that fell just short of being successful. In neither case did you get the sort of vitriol that is being directed at Trump.

    Replies: @Keypusher

  46. Trump’s bravado; his showiness, vindictiveness, self-aggrandizement, etc doesn’t play very well in the upper Midwest or Mormon territories.

  47. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Hepp

    The Establishment is going to try to hang on to power even if it means the direct repudiation of the voters' expressed will, even if means throwing the results of the election in the wastebasket. Under such circumstances, the whole idea of "winning elections" is not really well defined. The Trump campaign is about a whole new realignment of the American political situation that is occurring over and above the business-as-usual of electoral politics.

    Replies: @rod1963, @Clifford Brown

    If the Establishment plays the long game, they challenge Trump brutally during the primaries, but avoid stealing his nomination outright. Disaffected Establishment Republicans, Neocons and 4 months of media onslaught from the New York Times to Fox News, The National Review and The Wall Street Journal would defeat Trump without destroying the system. Then the Republican Establishment can say that they gave the new realignment a chance and it failed miserably.

    If the Establishment tries to run Paul Ryan at the convention, it seems like a high risk strategy with little potential pay-off and a high degree of downside if Trump voters abandon the Republican Party. If you view the political parties first and foremost as businesses, the Republican Party will have to assume low revenues in 2016 in order to reap the benefits after the Trump campaign. A Hillary Presidency would likely be great for fundraising, but have little downside in terms of policy for the Republican Establishment. Of course, it is quite possible that the Republican Party cannot think that far ahead and will spite its future prospects just to maintain the gravy train in 2016.

  48. @Clifford Brown
    @Lagertha


    There was something dirty goin’ on about this primary in Wisconsin….something is fishy (yeah, I know, there was soooo much dirty money to torpedo Trump).
     
    What exactly is the evidence that something dirty is going on? Trump lost Iowa, Minnesota and now Wisconsin. The gruff, brash, loud mouth New Yorker, Donald Trump, unsurprisingly underperforms in Midwestern Nice non-diverse areas. Trump's base is Scots-Irish areas from the Deep South up the Appalachian spine into the Northeast. Trump's appeal is to those who have been enriched by diversity.

    Never underestimate the pull of Christian evangelicals and the power of social conformity in that community.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Lagertha, @Jefferson

    Never underestimate the pull of Christian evangelicals and the power of social conformity in that community.

    But Evangelicals have been going with Trump, much to the chagrin of Glenn Beck.

  49. The results of the exit poll I saw indicated that only 6% of Republican voters in Wisconsin were chiefly concerned about immigration, which might explain a large portion of Trump’s relatively poor performance. About 30% said that terrorism was their chief issue, which is……..ridiculous, quite frankly (way to go FOX News – mission accomplished).

  50. @TangoMan
    @iSteveFan

    The reason you think he is a flake is because he has been under the microscope for 9 months. Not only that, but he has been under a hostile microscope. Think about how your perception of Trump would be if he were treated like the media treated Obama.

    No Republican is ever treated like Obama, so let's not spend time on trying to attain that outcome.

    Is it so fucking hard to develop policies you want to advance, understand them, and then advocate for them? Every other politician does this but Trump doesn't seem to want to study what his own campaign advisors develop for him and he's constantly flip-flopping, declaring that his positions are big opening bids for subsequent negotiations, thus undercutting the very appeal of his policies.

    Abortion is not a big issue this year but every politician needs to have his mind straight on the required rote answers that he needs to utter to placate his base. Trump manages to blow a gimme with his punish the women comment. I know exactly what he did, he argued from first principles, abortion is a crime, crime must be punished, so when abortion becomes illegal, it follows that women must be punished. Couldn't he, or someone on his staff, have picked up a phone over the last 9 months and gotten schooled on the nuances of the pro-life movement?

    Then he got caught sleeping at the switch in the delegate selection process as Cruz put his own people into Trump delegate slots.

    There is just a lot of neglect in so many areas of his campaign. There is a lot of sense to many of his policies, but bad execution on his part is leaving lots of money on the table.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Anonymous, @Lagertha, @rod1963

    agree with everything you said. It seems (from his behavior these last 2 weeks) Trump really didn’t believe he would get this far. This fact worries me. I was hoping he could now see that he must muster up the courage to actually, run for President. But, the fact that he got trapped in superficial snafus about social policies makes me believe that he is, unfortunately, not the real deal. Meaning, he really has never wanted to be President. So, now, what do we do.?…what is plan B? I think this is the first time in 35 years that I will not vote. I can’t vote for Hillary and I won’t vote for Cruz. Most of my closest friends are upset with me anyway, that I am for Trump…but now they are angry with me that I will not vote.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Lagertha


    he is, unfortunately, not the real deal.
     
    You just figured that out? And you call the hardworking, earnest Midwesterners "rubes"?

    Some of you (including you, Lagertha) are hypocrites and sore losers. If Democrats had derided "flyover country" whites as you had, you'd be rolling your eyes and vehemently criticizing them for casting aspersions on honest, hardworking, family-oriented good white folks.

    It's not the fault of those good folks that Trump is a clown who can't parrot simple policy descriptions, make up false stories, and goes after his rival's wife, and generally reveals himself to be a petulant, juvenile, silver-spooned showman.

    I liked some of his campaign's policy proposals (I am an immigration restrictionist, after all) and I enjoyed him making both the Establishment-at-large and the GOP Establishment squirm, and seriously considered supporting him (right until the Iowa caucuses) over Cruz. But at some point the clown show must end, and a candidate for president who is serious should show some mastery of detail, organization (after all, he is supposed to be a great manager of people and organizations), and substance as well as, gee, I don't know, a sense of dignity.

    Instead, Trump keeps shooting himself on the foot, and makes me glad that I cast my lot with Cruz, as much as he gives off that used car salesman vibe (though a highly intelligent one).

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Lagertha, @Truth, @Bill

    , @unpc downunder
    @Lagertha

    Plan B - Trump and Sanders both run as independent spoilers. Hillary wins the Presidency with a pitiful percentage of the vote, which seriously undermines the legitimacy of the whole American political establishment.

  51. iSteveFan says:
    @Lagertha
    @iSteveFan

    Totally agree with you. However, now Trump needs to be more measured in his responses to ALL the "take downs." Even my young adult sons (impulsiveness) know when they are being punked. He should not have walked into the quicksand of "abortion," in fact, stay away from policies that no one gives a sh*t about right now, during the election year.

    Wisconsin is in really, really bad shape...Milwaukee is close to Detroit as far as its financial bad health, so, the disparaging remarks of "flyover states," is pretty apt for Wisconsin. Walker has devastated Wisconsin's future with his very stupid (he's a world-class, embarrassing, dummy) policies. And, because Wisconsin still has so many reticent, conformist Lutherans, well...they just don't "get it" because of their LACK of anger even when they are clearly being screwed. Makes me sick to see such stupid people ruin their children's and grandchildren's lives ( I am Scandinavian so I can blast my own kind) and vote for people who don't give a rat's ass about them or the USA. It's all about money. It is ALWAYS all about money.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Yeah

    If you can, watch a rerun of last night’s (4Apr16) Hannity show on Fox. Trump was on the full hour. He acknowledged he should not have tweeted out that stuff that caused the big distraction over the past two weeks. His wife was on as well and she said Donald’s problem is he tweets too much and she wants to keep him off twitter.

    I took this to mean that Trump and his wife know that he hosed things up with his impulsiveness. Hopefully he learns and focuses in on NY. Trump thrives off winning. It juices him up. And NY is the next battle and he stands to win big. Hopefully he will regain his mojo.

  52. @iSteveFan
    @TangoMan


    No Republican is ever treated like Obama, so let’s not spend time on trying to attain that outcome.
     
    Forget Obama. What about Bernie? What about Kasich? What about Cruz? None of them has endured what Trump has endured.

    Replies: @TangoMan, @AndrewR

    Everyone else has a personality like drying paint, so they’re not going to get coverage. Trump is newsworthy in his own right and so gets coverage one way or the other, the problem is that Trump is shooting himself in the foot so damn often that the coverage he was going to get anyway gets diverted onto his cock-ups.

    It’s these screw-ups which are playing a large part in alienating people who could/should vote for him. There are, essentially, two groups of opponents, those who disagree with what he’s saying and those who think he’s unfit for office. He could address the concerns of the latter group by showing that he can, indeed, master the nuance of policy. I was cutting him a lot of slack, I figured that he was bombastic in the beginning in order to clear the field, that this way buying him time to go deep on policy, to build up the campaign staff, and that we’d see a more in-depth Trump, but my patience is running thin.

    People ragged on Palin but I defended her because I had actually seen her demonstrate mastery on Alaska’s energy politics, so I knew she could go deep on policy and perform her job and once schooled on other topics could do the same. I’m not seeing even unschooled Palin, winging it, kind of policy mastery from Trump. In the tread on Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos someone posted a video of her giving a presentation and the buzzwords were flying and that’s what I’m seeing from Trump. I’d bet that there are hundreds of us in the Steve-o-sphere who could take his issues and clean the clocks of opponents who challenged his positions but Trump isn’t doing that.

    Trump is going to get covered because he has a big personality and he’s engaging. He’d be doing us all a favor if that coverage was focused on substance rather than tweeting pictures of Cruz’s wife or alienating the pro-life crowd. Talk more about disbanding NATO. Show us that there is some damn thought behind the idea. Let’s talk about what a post-NATO world would look like. That’ll get lots of coverage. Talk about SCOTUS precedent for the Executive banning people from entering/immigrating to the US due to ideological positions and then make the case that Islam, religion of any kind, is simply a subset of a larger category we call ideology. Explain why the freedoms we extend to religion within the US do not have to be extended to people outside of our borders. I guarantee you that Trump talking about any of that is going to stir up controversy and will get lots of coverage but it will recast him to be a more substantive man instead of a boor.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @TangoMan


    People ragged on Palin but I defended her because I had actually seen her demonstrate mastery on Alaska’s energy politics
     
    I am with you on Palin. To hell with the Harvard/Yale crowd and their wannabe acolytes. Palin for president!
    , @Twinkie
    @TangoMan


    People ragged on Palin but I defended her because I had actually seen her demonstrate mastery on Alaska’s energy politics, so I knew she could go deep on policy and perform her job and once schooled on other topics could do the same. I’m not seeing even unschooled Palin, winging it, kind of policy mastery from Trump.
     
    I was a big fan of Palin before she was nominated as the GOP VP candidate, but I was of the school that she should have gone for that senate seat, develop a policy niche (and gravitas) and then go for the big prize. She was a great raw political talent, showed great deal of grit and principles in taking on the Alaska Establishment, but alas she took the easy way out and avoided the kind of candidate development that would have made her the real thing.

    I agree 100% on your assessment of Trump on policy.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    , @SteveO
    @TangoMan

    Well said, TangoMan. The really depressing thing is the wasted opportunity. Trump is right on many issues, and he had the prominence to draw attention to them from the beginning. Watching that opportunity being squandered is just painful. I keep waiting for his Big Speech - the one where he carefully articulates his policies and how he'll get them accomplished and finally, finally sounds like a statesman, but the moment for that is rapidly passing.

    Furthermore, Trump's failure to rise to the occasion generates ever more concern about his potential performance as President. It's not enough to have some good ideas; you have to have the right temperament to lead the country responsibly. Trump is not only not doing that; he's doing the opposite.

    , @The most deplorable one
    @TangoMan


    Trump is going to get covered because he has a big personality and he’s engaging. He’d be doing us all a favor if that coverage was focused on substance rather than tweeting pictures of Cruz’s wife or alienating the pro-life crowd. Talk more about disbanding NATO. Show us that there is some damn thought behind the idea. Let’s talk about what a post-NATO world would look like.
     
    The majority of the US electorate are not policy wonks like you.

    The man has to have tactics appropriate to the electorate, especially this stage of winning against the GOPe.
  53. @Tiny Duck
    Trump just died tonight. This is the beginning of the end.

    The Cruz sex scandal is hogwash.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Mr. Anon, @epebble, @Boethius, @Anon

    Dick Suck – nice to hear from you again. Or not. You should up your meds.

  54. Forget about the election. Harvard isn’t admitting enough Chinese students.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Buzz Mohawk

    forget Asians, Harvard is not admitting enough of ANY of the smartest students in the country! - but all these "rejected" geniuses are getting really good scholarships from lowly state U and unknown-3rd tier-private U, and graduating to excellent jobs ($220K+) without ANY debt! Yey! Cream always rises to the top.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Suburban Dad

  55. @Honesthughgrant
    Never underestimate the stupidity of the average Republican. They voted for Ford over Reagan in '76. 40% voted for Bush over Reagan in 1980. And they nominated:

    - Bush in '88
    -Dole in '96
    -McCain in '08
    -Romney in '12

    And about 40% wanted McCain in 2000 'cause Bush II was too 'radical' for them. Seriously, about 40% of Republicans are status quo, don't rock the boat, everything's fine, let's just cut the capital gains tax and pray to Jesus dimwits.

    Take away Reagan and you're looking at the party of Nixon and 50 years of failure. And loving it.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @athEIst

    “,everything’s fine, let’s just cut the capital gains tax and pray to Jesus dimwits.”

    The ones pray-to-Jesus crowd and the capital gains cutters (the plutocrats, country-club and chamber-of-commerce types) are mostly two different groups within the Republican Party.

  56. @International Jew
    @iSteveFan

    Maybe better we be disappointed now, than have President Trump disappoint us by forgetting his whole immigration platform. The guy is a flake. I'm sorry to say that, I really wish he wasn't.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @TangoMan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Yeah, @Boethius

    Please list the non-flakes running for President.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    You have to be a flake to run for president -- insane, a slave to your YUUGE ego, really into masochism.

    Seriously, we tear them down. Then we tear down the one who wins while he tries to do the job.

    And people wonder why we've had so many lousy presidents.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  57. iSteveFan says:

    Trump is going to get covered because he has a big personality and he’s engaging. He’d be doing us all a favor if that coverage was focused on substance rather than tweeting pictures of Cruz’s wife or alienating the pro-life crowd. Talk more about disbanding NATO.

    I agree. This was a bad, bad two weeks for Trump. And it was self-inflicted. He had the Brussels issue that should have solidified his lead in the polls, but he let the subject get changed.

    As I wrote to Lagertha, Trump came as close to saying “I messed up” as I’ve seen him ever do when he told Hannity he regretted the tweet and that he spends too much time on twitter. Let’s hope he rights his ship and that he has learned a tough lesson.

    • Replies: @Boethius
    @iSteveFan

    Let's hope he loses asap so we still have the chance to nominate Ted Cruz who will beat Hillary Clinton instead of Donald Trump, who won't.

    Replies: @C

  58. As someone else stated, Wisconsin is a cross between Minnesota and Illinois. Given that, Cruz’s victory was expected. If Rubio had stayed in, he probably would’ve won the state, or Jeb!

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    @Honesthughgrant

    Yeah big shock Trump loses state he is expected to lose. Still picked up two CDs and thus six delegates. On to NY where he should win by a landslide, with his first fifty plus, with eighty plus delegates. Then the Acela primaries which will also be a landslide. Trump has learnt an important lesson now to get more professional.

    NY is and expensive market for the special interests to buy ads in too.

    As Sam Wang says, time to buy Trump.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Suburban Dad

    , @Mike Zwick
    @Honesthughgrant

    I can see Minnesota, but Illinois? Outside Chicago, the only area of Illinois that is in any way similar to Wisconsin is the area north of Interstate 80. The rest of the state was early on settled by southerners and this is still reflected. Cairo, Illinois is closer to Jackson, Mississippi than it is to Chicago. Where Wisconsin is filled with Schmenge Brother ump-pa-pa German Polka bands, Illinois is filled with rednecks flying the stars and bars.

  59. • Replies: @carol
    @t

    Gee, with the general - what, cuckiness? - of teachers, you'd think they would go out of their way to think highly of their black students. It's almost as if experience were instructing them otherwise.

  60. @JZ
    This smells fishy. Cruz wins by 20% yet latest poll had him up by 4%

    No matter. On the 19th the northeast will be a sweep for Trump.

    Oh, and nary a mention in MSM of Cruz sex scandal. Incredible

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Twinkie

    Oh, and nary a mention in MSM of Cruz sex scandal. Incredible

    Here you go: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/03/25/cruz-national-enquirer-story-is-garbage-from-donald-trump-and-his-henchmen/

    Katrina Pierson, a Trump spokeswoman who once worked for Cruz, also said the [National Enquirer] story is false.

    Cruz also took the leaders of the Enquirer to task, saying they were in league with the Trump campaign.

    “The CEO of the National Enquirer is an individual named David Pecker,” said Cruz. “Well, David is good friends with Donald Trump. In fact, the National Enquirer has endorsed Donald Trump, has said he must be president…

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Twinkie

    "Katrina Pierson, a Trump spokeswoman who once worked for Cruz, also said the [National Enquirer] story is false."

    Pierson has also been identified as one of the women whom the Enquirer claims had an affair with Cruz.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Stephen R. Diamond
    @Twinkie

    "Pecker." Is that a joke?

  61. @TangoMan
    @iSteveFan

    The reason you think he is a flake is because he has been under the microscope for 9 months. Not only that, but he has been under a hostile microscope. Think about how your perception of Trump would be if he were treated like the media treated Obama.

    No Republican is ever treated like Obama, so let's not spend time on trying to attain that outcome.

    Is it so fucking hard to develop policies you want to advance, understand them, and then advocate for them? Every other politician does this but Trump doesn't seem to want to study what his own campaign advisors develop for him and he's constantly flip-flopping, declaring that his positions are big opening bids for subsequent negotiations, thus undercutting the very appeal of his policies.

    Abortion is not a big issue this year but every politician needs to have his mind straight on the required rote answers that he needs to utter to placate his base. Trump manages to blow a gimme with his punish the women comment. I know exactly what he did, he argued from first principles, abortion is a crime, crime must be punished, so when abortion becomes illegal, it follows that women must be punished. Couldn't he, or someone on his staff, have picked up a phone over the last 9 months and gotten schooled on the nuances of the pro-life movement?

    Then he got caught sleeping at the switch in the delegate selection process as Cruz put his own people into Trump delegate slots.

    There is just a lot of neglect in so many areas of his campaign. There is a lot of sense to many of his policies, but bad execution on his part is leaving lots of money on the table.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Anonymous, @Lagertha, @rod1963

    I agree with all that. Problem is you can’t say any of that at Pro-Trump sites because they go nuts. They think Trump is infallible. He’s not, he’s shot himself in the foot more than once. His failure to fund a serious ground game in the fly over states hurt him badly – all because he’s a cheap ass, his failure to address certain issues in some degree of specificity in public in a non flip flop manner like H1-B visa workers. In one debate he said he supported bringing in more H1-B workers then said the opposite afterwards.

    I suspect he doesn’t listen to his advisers much or even read his position papers.

    His rallies are all the same, he gives a generic rah, rah speech with next to zero specifics. It’s not bad, but with no ground game and ad campaign to follow it up, it fails to bring him the wins he needs.

    His interviews aren’t much better, broad generalities and no specifics on much of anything. It’s not a confidence builder at all.

    And what the hell was he doing even talking to Chris Matthews anyways. Was Trump taking his stupid pills or something? Mr. Tingly hates Trump and ambushed him good. And abortion is a serious hot button issue and he blew it. Even Roger Stone said as much in a polite manner.

    And yeah on delegate selection he’s totally blown it. He let Cruz carve him up on this. I guess he couldn’t be bothered to hire the talent and invest the resource to make sure delegate flipping didn’t happen.

    He’s so desperate for free PR he goes on every two bit radio or tv talk show he can find. All it does it bite him.

    All these little wounds add up.

    One other thing, He needs to show a more presidential persona in his rallies and selected interviews, he needs to tone down the rah, rah stuff and start talking like a statesmen. It really does impress a lot of people when it’s done right.

    • Replies: @TangoMan
    @rod1963

    He reneged on his pledge to support the winner of the nomination. Why did he do that? What did he gain? Now it comes out that he may lose all of his SC delegates, where he won all of them, because those delegates are pledged to him on the condition that he honors the pledge to support the winning candidate.

    What did he gain by reneging and was it worth possibly losing all of those SC delegates? He probably didn't that he was risking the delegates, his reneging was probably impromptu, and what on earth did he think was the upside?

    The frustrating thing about this election is that it's a Trump Or Bust scenario, there's no one else for voters to support. Cruz, Kasich, Sanders & Hillary. This should serve as an explanation to anyone who wondered how Toronto could elect Rob Ford, a known quantity in that area - the other choices were worse.

    Replies: @Truth

    , @Twinkie
    @rod1963


    Problem is you can’t say any of that at Pro-Trump sites because they go nuts. They think Trump is infallible. He’s not, he’s shot himself in the foot more than once. His failure to fund a serious ground game in the fly over states hurt him badly – all because he’s a cheap ass, his failure to address certain issues in some degree of specificity in public in a non flip flop manner like H1-B visa workers. In one debate he said he supported bringing in more H1-B workers then said the opposite afterwards.
     
    The Cult of Trump Personality is really quite something. If some of these cultists actually looked at Trump critically, they should realize that he is a HIGHLY flawed candidate for a very good message. The problem with that is he might bring down that good message spectacularly should he flop.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Anonym, @TangoMan, @TangoMan

    , @Bert
    @rod1963

    If Trump had been willing to fund a ground organization in Iowa-a state he really had no business losing-and the other caucus states then he'd already be the nominee and none of this would matter. Instead it's become a nasty ugly drawn out fight that will end up hurting everyone. Except Hillary Clinton.

    I want to add that his obsession with Megyn Kelly is becoming a real problem. He seems unable to shut up about her, every week it's something. I get that she and Fox News tried to screw him over, but for God's sake's this shit needs to stop. No wonder his numbers with women are rock bottom now.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @Boethius
    @rod1963

    "His rallies are all the same, he gives a generic rah, rah speech with next to zero specifics. It’s not bad, but with no ground game and ad campaign to follow it up, it fails to bring him the wins he needs."

    That's exactly right. His rallies have been powerful pieces of political theater, because the people who attend them can see the strength of other Americans who agree with them, instead of being cowed by PC police.

    But, that and free media, that's his only cards in the deck. And where those rallies were powerful six months ago, they're going to lose value going forward, because they've been done already and there's no more pull to them.

    As much as people talk about how Trump has changed the character of the race (and he certainly has) it's at least as important to note that the presence of 10+ other candidates has presented Trump in a favorable light as well.

    Trump couldn't handle uninterrupted attention (and wasn't expected to). Fiorina responds to being called ugly, Ben Carson begs the moderator for a question, etc., you can get by by just winging it, and Trump did. That's not going to work for a general election. The amount of attention is greater, and the outlets for it are fewer.

  62. @TangoMan
    @iSteveFan

    Everyone else has a personality like drying paint, so they're not going to get coverage. Trump is newsworthy in his own right and so gets coverage one way or the other, the problem is that Trump is shooting himself in the foot so damn often that the coverage he was going to get anyway gets diverted onto his cock-ups.

    It's these screw-ups which are playing a large part in alienating people who could/should vote for him. There are, essentially, two groups of opponents, those who disagree with what he's saying and those who think he's unfit for office. He could address the concerns of the latter group by showing that he can, indeed, master the nuance of policy. I was cutting him a lot of slack, I figured that he was bombastic in the beginning in order to clear the field, that this way buying him time to go deep on policy, to build up the campaign staff, and that we'd see a more in-depth Trump, but my patience is running thin.

    People ragged on Palin but I defended her because I had actually seen her demonstrate mastery on Alaska's energy politics, so I knew she could go deep on policy and perform her job and once schooled on other topics could do the same. I'm not seeing even unschooled Palin, winging it, kind of policy mastery from Trump. In the tread on Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos someone posted a video of her giving a presentation and the buzzwords were flying and that's what I'm seeing from Trump. I'd bet that there are hundreds of us in the Steve-o-sphere who could take his issues and clean the clocks of opponents who challenged his positions but Trump isn't doing that.

    Trump is going to get covered because he has a big personality and he's engaging. He'd be doing us all a favor if that coverage was focused on substance rather than tweeting pictures of Cruz's wife or alienating the pro-life crowd. Talk more about disbanding NATO. Show us that there is some damn thought behind the idea. Let's talk about what a post-NATO world would look like. That'll get lots of coverage. Talk about SCOTUS precedent for the Executive banning people from entering/immigrating to the US due to ideological positions and then make the case that Islam, religion of any kind, is simply a subset of a larger category we call ideology. Explain why the freedoms we extend to religion within the US do not have to be extended to people outside of our borders. I guarantee you that Trump talking about any of that is going to stir up controversy and will get lots of coverage but it will recast him to be a more substantive man instead of a boor.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Twinkie, @SteveO, @The most deplorable one

    People ragged on Palin but I defended her because I had actually seen her demonstrate mastery on Alaska’s energy politics

    I am with you on Palin. To hell with the Harvard/Yale crowd and their wannabe acolytes. Palin for president!

  63. @Tiny Duck
    Trump just died tonight. This is the beginning of the end.

    The Cruz sex scandal is hogwash.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Mr. Anon, @epebble, @Boethius, @Anon

    “Trump just died tonight. This is the beginning of the end.”

    Nonsense. He will probably win New York and California. They’re aren’t many Colorados and Wisconsins left for Cruz to win in.

    “The Cruz sex scandal is hogwash.”

    I don’t think it is. I might be wrong of course. But I am still persuaded that it might be true. The National Enquirer has a pretty good record when it comes to reporting on the infidelities of politicians. At the least, I trust the National Enquirer more than I trust Ted Cruz.

    • Replies: @Discordiax
    @Mr. Anon

    NAtional Enquirer's reputation has been living off of the John Edwards story. They've changed ownership since then, and apparently changed their approach as print newspapers continue to circle the drain.

    Last year they ran a "story" on President Obama's dozen mistressses and how Michelle knew the details and was livid and was going to use all this in the divorce as soon as they were out of the White House.

    So yeah.

    If you read the National Enquirer "story", it's the breathless revelation that there are private investigators investigating the rumors of Ted Cruz having affairs.

    , @Discordiax
    @Mr. Anon

    Something a lot of commenters don't seem to understand. Wisconsin has a functioning conservative Republican party.

    After Walker was elected in 2010, he passed anti-union legislation. That brought the drum-circle Madison Left out in force, occupying the state capitol and launching a recall campaign. Walker and the Wisconsin GOP stood their ground and won. Then Walker won reelection.

    So in Wisconsin, a Trump supporter saying "Screw the promise-everything, do-nothing GOP. What have they ever done when they were in office" sounds like he's from another planet.

    Just like Mormon Utah is immune to Trump's appeal because Leave It To Beaver America is still alive and well there, Walker Country is poor soil for a movement to punish the feckless spineless GOP leadership.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @5371

    , @Andie Freud
    @Mr. Anon

    I didn't want to feed the duck, but since you threw him a crumb, I agree with you; nonsense. another puzzle piece - a Federal judge just blocked the release of the dc madam's little black book client list on the grounds that it might influence the upcoming election. Now, which of the four remaining viable candidates are likely to be on the list? Ockham? Buehler? Anyone?

    "They" are sandbagging these multiple scandals to use against you-can-guess-who in the General election. The mud will fly; @someone should quit while his reputation is still intact. The senate is a great little hot-tub if you don't mind the pee-smell.

    Replies: @SteveO

  64. I wonder if Rodham, having been beaten by a black and now in the process of getting beaten by a Jew, is beginning to have doubts about her pro-minority stance.

  65. @Alice
    @iSteveFan

    Trump insulted Walker. Wisconsites don't like big city bombastic types to come and insult their guy. Maybe their guy was milquetoast. Maybe their guy wasn't ready for media attention. But he was Their Guy, Their Kinda Guy. And Ryan, too, is their guy. And Trump attacked him, too.

    Maybe Cruz isn't connecting. But maybe it was a repudiation.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Another Canadian

    And Ryan, too, is their guy.

    Yet in 2012 WI didn’t even vote for the GOP despite their guy being on the ticket.

  66. Hey guys, Teddy Bare is really coming on strong, congrats, you may get a “conservative” president after all! Hey, he’s busy, but he thanks you for your almost-inevitable vote, in November, in advance.

  67. @Tiny Duck
    Trump just died tonight. This is the beginning of the end.

    The Cruz sex scandal is hogwash.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Mr. Anon, @epebble, @Boethius, @Anon

    If the pattern continues, he may lose in Indiana (May 3rd) and Nebraska (May 10). So, it likely will end in open convention.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @epebble

    He's weaker in states with fewer immigrants. Unless they're states, like Michigan, where the reason for fewer immigrants is a sick local economy.

    Replies: @Bert

  68. @Twinkie
    @JZ


    Oh, and nary a mention in MSM of Cruz sex scandal. Incredible
     
    Here you go: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/03/25/cruz-national-enquirer-story-is-garbage-from-donald-trump-and-his-henchmen/

    Katrina Pierson, a Trump spokeswoman who once worked for Cruz, also said the [National Enquirer] story is false.
     

    Cruz also took the leaders of the Enquirer to task, saying they were in league with the Trump campaign.

    “The CEO of the National Enquirer is an individual named David Pecker,” said Cruz. “Well, David is good friends with Donald Trump. In fact, the National Enquirer has endorsed Donald Trump, has said he must be president…
     

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Stephen R. Diamond

    “Katrina Pierson, a Trump spokeswoman who once worked for Cruz, also said the [National Enquirer] story is false.”

    Pierson has also been identified as one of the women whom the Enquirer claims had an affair with Cruz.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Mr. Anon


    Pierson has also been identified as one of the women whom the Enquirer claims had an affair with Cruz.
     
    By ONE source - a Trump lackey that Trump's campaign had to let go. It's not some giant conspiracy. MSM is silent on the so-called scandal, because they have not been able to corroborate the story at all.

    Replies: @Mr. ANon, @Bill

  69. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:

    On a different subject, it seems that students in CA know about the black card and the gender card, but the East Asians know about the East Asian card.

    If they are caught sleeping in class, they will simply say that they are actually awake, it is just their East Asian eyes that make them look like they are asleep.

  70. @Clifford Brown
    @Lagertha


    There was something dirty goin’ on about this primary in Wisconsin….something is fishy (yeah, I know, there was soooo much dirty money to torpedo Trump).
     
    What exactly is the evidence that something dirty is going on? Trump lost Iowa, Minnesota and now Wisconsin. The gruff, brash, loud mouth New Yorker, Donald Trump, unsurprisingly underperforms in Midwestern Nice non-diverse areas. Trump's base is Scots-Irish areas from the Deep South up the Appalachian spine into the Northeast. Trump's appeal is to those who have been enriched by diversity.

    Never underestimate the pull of Christian evangelicals and the power of social conformity in that community.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Lagertha, @Jefferson

    We all know about torpedoing – give me a break. After the summit in coastal Georgia, it was obvious that Trump would be taken apart…..without bodily harm, perhaps; albeit, it was a meeting to “take him out.”

    As a Scandinavian, I am ridiculing the mid-western states like Wisconsin that have been falling apart financially for decades. That these stupid-ass states would allow themselves to become further impoverished by allowing “old style” Republican party candidates to govern them (fool them) is their loss and their sword to fall down on – I don’t care – and not my problem. If people believe in stupidity, they are left alone to their devices.

    I would never even want kids going to college in these states that may have poor water quality on their campus, not to mention impoverished universities. The mid-west is becoming irrelevant, so, the people who love it and live there, better start thinking realistically how they will continue to exist there and retire. I don’t think any of their kids have a future there unless they are happy with minimum wage service industry – that’s their reality.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Lagertha

    "We all know about torpedoing – give me a break. After the summit in coastal Georgia, it was obvious that Trump would be taken apart…..without bodily harm, perhaps; albeit, it was a meeting to “take him out.”"

    Agree, and it seems to be working. Part of the plan appears to be to support Cruz, who suddenly seems to be doing better. However, in the past couple of weeks I have unwittingly developed a visceral distaste for Cruz and a strong sense that he is a snake.

  71. @Lagertha
    @TangoMan

    agree with everything you said. It seems (from his behavior these last 2 weeks) Trump really didn't believe he would get this far. This fact worries me. I was hoping he could now see that he must muster up the courage to actually, run for President. But, the fact that he got trapped in superficial snafus about social policies makes me believe that he is, unfortunately, not the real deal. Meaning, he really has never wanted to be President. So, now, what do we do.?...what is plan B? I think this is the first time in 35 years that I will not vote. I can't vote for Hillary and I won't vote for Cruz. Most of my closest friends are upset with me anyway, that I am for Trump...but now they are angry with me that I will not vote.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @unpc downunder

    he is, unfortunately, not the real deal.

    You just figured that out? And you call the hardworking, earnest Midwesterners “rubes”?

    Some of you (including you, Lagertha) are hypocrites and sore losers. If Democrats had derided “flyover country” whites as you had, you’d be rolling your eyes and vehemently criticizing them for casting aspersions on honest, hardworking, family-oriented good white folks.

    It’s not the fault of those good folks that Trump is a clown who can’t parrot simple policy descriptions, make up false stories, and goes after his rival’s wife, and generally reveals himself to be a petulant, juvenile, silver-spooned showman.

    I liked some of his campaign’s policy proposals (I am an immigration restrictionist, after all) and I enjoyed him making both the Establishment-at-large and the GOP Establishment squirm, and seriously considered supporting him (right until the Iowa caucuses) over Cruz. But at some point the clown show must end, and a candidate for president who is serious should show some mastery of detail, organization (after all, he is supposed to be a great manager of people and organizations), and substance as well as, gee, I don’t know, a sense of dignity.

    Instead, Trump keeps shooting himself on the foot, and makes me glad that I cast my lot with Cruz, as much as he gives off that used car salesman vibe (though a highly intelligent one).

    • Agree: International Jew
    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Twinkie

    (I am an immigration restrictionist, after all) and I enjoyed him making both the Establishment-at-large and the GOP Establishment squirm, and seriously considered supporting him (right until the Iowa caucuses) over Cruz.

    How do you reconcile your support of Cruz on immigration when Jeff Sessions and the Border Patrol are behind Trump? If Cruz were the real deal on immigration, wouldn't they rally around him?

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Lagertha
    @Twinkie

    You are so annoying because you read between the lines ALL the time! I have voted for Democrats for 2 decades, you maroon!

    I am saying, "flyover state" people are being mislead by the oleaginous Cruz (and the creepy, creepy Walker) who is a frightening, evil clown with a horrible voice, no charisma, and no chance of EVER, simply, EVER becoming a president of anything except the PTO of his daughters' school.

    And, saying you had a Jones for Palin just grossed-me-out big, time. Palin was looney-tunes, bimbo of all bimbos, low hanging fruit of the biggest fruits in a long time; a financially mercenary creep with an embarrassing family full of drunks and losers. McCain lost BIG-Time because everyone hated and feared her. Good night, all.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Truth
    @Twinkie

    Dude, you used to like Trump, then it was Teddy-Bare, now you're flip-flopping like the 3rd black president!

    , @Bill
    @Twinkie

    They are rubes.

    Rube is a very mild insult. It just means gullible.

    You might want to think about just what kind of garbage you've allowed to infiltrate your moral sense. Rube is a grave insult from the mouth of a con man and from the mouths of people who admire con men.

  72. @TangoMan
    @iSteveFan

    Everyone else has a personality like drying paint, so they're not going to get coverage. Trump is newsworthy in his own right and so gets coverage one way or the other, the problem is that Trump is shooting himself in the foot so damn often that the coverage he was going to get anyway gets diverted onto his cock-ups.

    It's these screw-ups which are playing a large part in alienating people who could/should vote for him. There are, essentially, two groups of opponents, those who disagree with what he's saying and those who think he's unfit for office. He could address the concerns of the latter group by showing that he can, indeed, master the nuance of policy. I was cutting him a lot of slack, I figured that he was bombastic in the beginning in order to clear the field, that this way buying him time to go deep on policy, to build up the campaign staff, and that we'd see a more in-depth Trump, but my patience is running thin.

    People ragged on Palin but I defended her because I had actually seen her demonstrate mastery on Alaska's energy politics, so I knew she could go deep on policy and perform her job and once schooled on other topics could do the same. I'm not seeing even unschooled Palin, winging it, kind of policy mastery from Trump. In the tread on Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos someone posted a video of her giving a presentation and the buzzwords were flying and that's what I'm seeing from Trump. I'd bet that there are hundreds of us in the Steve-o-sphere who could take his issues and clean the clocks of opponents who challenged his positions but Trump isn't doing that.

    Trump is going to get covered because he has a big personality and he's engaging. He'd be doing us all a favor if that coverage was focused on substance rather than tweeting pictures of Cruz's wife or alienating the pro-life crowd. Talk more about disbanding NATO. Show us that there is some damn thought behind the idea. Let's talk about what a post-NATO world would look like. That'll get lots of coverage. Talk about SCOTUS precedent for the Executive banning people from entering/immigrating to the US due to ideological positions and then make the case that Islam, religion of any kind, is simply a subset of a larger category we call ideology. Explain why the freedoms we extend to religion within the US do not have to be extended to people outside of our borders. I guarantee you that Trump talking about any of that is going to stir up controversy and will get lots of coverage but it will recast him to be a more substantive man instead of a boor.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Twinkie, @SteveO, @The most deplorable one

    People ragged on Palin but I defended her because I had actually seen her demonstrate mastery on Alaska’s energy politics, so I knew she could go deep on policy and perform her job and once schooled on other topics could do the same. I’m not seeing even unschooled Palin, winging it, kind of policy mastery from Trump.

    I was a big fan of Palin before she was nominated as the GOP VP candidate, but I was of the school that she should have gone for that senate seat, develop a policy niche (and gravitas) and then go for the big prize. She was a great raw political talent, showed great deal of grit and principles in taking on the Alaska Establishment, but alas she took the easy way out and avoided the kind of candidate development that would have made her the real thing.

    I agree 100% on your assessment of Trump on policy.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Twinkie

    If only Palin had followed Maggie Thatcher's example and gotten some voice coaching. She has the weirdest, most jangling voice on the political landscape. I cringe every time she begins to speak.

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist

  73. @epebble
    The interesting thing is there will be an open (contested) convention on Republican side. There may be open convention on Democratic side also if Sanders keeps up the momentum and has an upset in NY. Summer 2016 will be interesting.

    One other thing is , whether Trump gets nominated or not, the Republican party is pretty much destroyed. That alone is interesting since birth and death of parties is an epochal event. We may even end up with more than two parties in future as in most other countries.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/433102/donald-trump-republican-party-trumpism-will-end-tears

    Trump's interesting observations from Washington Post interview: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/04/02/transcript-donald-trump-interview-with-bob-woodward-and-robert-costa/

    BW: And why did Lincoln succeed? Thought about that at all?

    DT: Well, I think Lincoln succeeded for numerous reasons. He was a man who was of great intelligence, which most presidents would be. But he was a man of great intelligence, but he was also a man that did something that was a very vital thing to do at that time. Ten years before or 20 years before, what he was doing would never have even been thought possible. So he did something that was a very important thing to do, and especially at that time. And Nixon failed, I think to a certain extent, because of his personality. You know? It was just that personality. Very severe, very exclusive. In other words, people couldn’t come in. And people didn’t like him. I mean, people didn’t like him.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton, @Lagertha

    I saw those remarks savaged as nonsense by someone, somewhere. To me they appear the remarks of someone focused on actions and responses. Not concise, but sensible.

  74. @rod1963
    @TangoMan

    I agree with all that. Problem is you can't say any of that at Pro-Trump sites because they go nuts. They think Trump is infallible. He's not, he's shot himself in the foot more than once. His failure to fund a serious ground game in the fly over states hurt him badly - all because he's a cheap ass, his failure to address certain issues in some degree of specificity in public in a non flip flop manner like H1-B visa workers. In one debate he said he supported bringing in more H1-B workers then said the opposite afterwards.

    I suspect he doesn't listen to his advisers much or even read his position papers.

    His rallies are all the same, he gives a generic rah, rah speech with next to zero specifics. It's not bad, but with no ground game and ad campaign to follow it up, it fails to bring him the wins he needs.

    His interviews aren't much better, broad generalities and no specifics on much of anything. It's not a confidence builder at all.

    And what the hell was he doing even talking to Chris Matthews anyways. Was Trump taking his stupid pills or something? Mr. Tingly hates Trump and ambushed him good. And abortion is a serious hot button issue and he blew it. Even Roger Stone said as much in a polite manner.

    And yeah on delegate selection he's totally blown it. He let Cruz carve him up on this. I guess he couldn't be bothered to hire the talent and invest the resource to make sure delegate flipping didn't happen.

    He's so desperate for free PR he goes on every two bit radio or tv talk show he can find. All it does it bite him.

    All these little wounds add up.

    One other thing, He needs to show a more presidential persona in his rallies and selected interviews, he needs to tone down the rah, rah stuff and start talking like a statesmen. It really does impress a lot of people when it's done right.

    Replies: @TangoMan, @Twinkie, @Bert, @Boethius

    He reneged on his pledge to support the winner of the nomination. Why did he do that? What did he gain? Now it comes out that he may lose all of his SC delegates, where he won all of them, because those delegates are pledged to him on the condition that he honors the pledge to support the winning candidate.

    What did he gain by reneging and was it worth possibly losing all of those SC delegates? He probably didn’t that he was risking the delegates, his reneging was probably impromptu, and what on earth did he think was the upside?

    The frustrating thing about this election is that it’s a Trump Or Bust scenario, there’s no one else for voters to support. Cruz, Kasich, Sanders & Hillary. This should serve as an explanation to anyone who wondered how Toronto could elect Rob Ford, a known quantity in that area – the other choices were worse.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @TangoMan

    "This should serve as an explanation to anyone who wondered how Toronto could elect Rob Ford, a known quantity in that area – the other choices were worse."

    D.C. with Marion Barry as well, or is that, somehow, different?

    Replies: @TangoMan

  75. @rod1963
    @TangoMan

    I agree with all that. Problem is you can't say any of that at Pro-Trump sites because they go nuts. They think Trump is infallible. He's not, he's shot himself in the foot more than once. His failure to fund a serious ground game in the fly over states hurt him badly - all because he's a cheap ass, his failure to address certain issues in some degree of specificity in public in a non flip flop manner like H1-B visa workers. In one debate he said he supported bringing in more H1-B workers then said the opposite afterwards.

    I suspect he doesn't listen to his advisers much or even read his position papers.

    His rallies are all the same, he gives a generic rah, rah speech with next to zero specifics. It's not bad, but with no ground game and ad campaign to follow it up, it fails to bring him the wins he needs.

    His interviews aren't much better, broad generalities and no specifics on much of anything. It's not a confidence builder at all.

    And what the hell was he doing even talking to Chris Matthews anyways. Was Trump taking his stupid pills or something? Mr. Tingly hates Trump and ambushed him good. And abortion is a serious hot button issue and he blew it. Even Roger Stone said as much in a polite manner.

    And yeah on delegate selection he's totally blown it. He let Cruz carve him up on this. I guess he couldn't be bothered to hire the talent and invest the resource to make sure delegate flipping didn't happen.

    He's so desperate for free PR he goes on every two bit radio or tv talk show he can find. All it does it bite him.

    All these little wounds add up.

    One other thing, He needs to show a more presidential persona in his rallies and selected interviews, he needs to tone down the rah, rah stuff and start talking like a statesmen. It really does impress a lot of people when it's done right.

    Replies: @TangoMan, @Twinkie, @Bert, @Boethius

    Problem is you can’t say any of that at Pro-Trump sites because they go nuts. They think Trump is infallible. He’s not, he’s shot himself in the foot more than once. His failure to fund a serious ground game in the fly over states hurt him badly – all because he’s a cheap ass, his failure to address certain issues in some degree of specificity in public in a non flip flop manner like H1-B visa workers. In one debate he said he supported bringing in more H1-B workers then said the opposite afterwards.

    The Cult of Trump Personality is really quite something. If some of these cultists actually looked at Trump critically, they should realize that he is a HIGHLY flawed candidate for a very good message. The problem with that is he might bring down that good message spectacularly should he flop.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Twinkie

    If you are against cultists, how do you feel about Ted's number one supporter Glenn Beck? Shouldn't Cruz at least publicly denounce such a loon?

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    , @Anonym
    @Twinkie

    I get the feeling you are concern trolling.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @TangoMan
    @Twinkie

    There are Trump cultists, sure, but they're pikers compared to the Cruz cultists. They combine conservatist purity with anti-Trump animus and, while each in their own right match the Trump cultists, the combination of both positions makes these guys come across as people who will walk through hell in order to complete their Holy Mission of delivering Cruz to the WH and keeping Trump out of it. Every political strategist wants to find ways to corral 50.1% of the population into his political movement but the Cruz cultists are taking the NRO purge impulse and are focused on purging the party down to a pure 10% of the entire electorate and want to banish every Trump supporter from the vicinity of any Republican office.

    These guys are like Kamikazes compared to Trump followers.

    Replies: @wonderbread

    , @TangoMan
    @Twinkie

    The problem with that is he might bring down that good message spectacularly should he flop.

    Guaranteed he'll sink the message. That's exactly what the Establishment guys want, that outcome gives them a hook on which to sell the renunciation of Trumpism - "look, the message was put before the voters and they rejected the message." They'll never say that the voters liked the message but rejected Trump. They're already trotting out this reasoning concerned support for the wall - support for the wall has declined since Trump began advocating for it.

    The problem is that no one else has Trump's message and in the future any candidate who can't command the media like Trump is going to be dependent on donor financing and so a new face pushing the Trump message is not going to come about.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  76. @epebble
    The interesting thing is there will be an open (contested) convention on Republican side. There may be open convention on Democratic side also if Sanders keeps up the momentum and has an upset in NY. Summer 2016 will be interesting.

    One other thing is , whether Trump gets nominated or not, the Republican party is pretty much destroyed. That alone is interesting since birth and death of parties is an epochal event. We may even end up with more than two parties in future as in most other countries.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/433102/donald-trump-republican-party-trumpism-will-end-tears

    Trump's interesting observations from Washington Post interview: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/04/02/transcript-donald-trump-interview-with-bob-woodward-and-robert-costa/

    BW: And why did Lincoln succeed? Thought about that at all?

    DT: Well, I think Lincoln succeeded for numerous reasons. He was a man who was of great intelligence, which most presidents would be. But he was a man of great intelligence, but he was also a man that did something that was a very vital thing to do at that time. Ten years before or 20 years before, what he was doing would never have even been thought possible. So he did something that was a very important thing to do, and especially at that time. And Nixon failed, I think to a certain extent, because of his personality. You know? It was just that personality. Very severe, very exclusive. In other words, people couldn’t come in. And people didn’t like him. I mean, people didn’t like him.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton, @Lagertha

    exactly. Finland had 7 parties in the early 2000’s…now 8. More parties are a boon. As an independent, I have always hated the American system since I am utterly liberal in social policies but utterly conservative with fiscal/international/security/immigration/ policies.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Lagertha


    More parties are a boon.
     
    Well if you want to hand fringe elements a lot more political power than they deserve (e.g. the Green Party), yes, you'd want more parties.
    , @celt darnell
    @Lagertha

    I agree with Twinkie's response to you.

    The end of the two-party system in the UK, from the Whig-Tory divide in the Eighteenth and Nineteenth centuries to the Labour-Conservative divide in the 20th has been a disaster.

    We've been in trouble in the UK for some time now, but ever since we've followed the Europeans down the multi-party path we've really gone down the toilet. I would strongly urge the US never to go down that road.

    The reality is that despite the constant complaints by Americans that the Republicans and Democrats are basically the same, the two American parties are far more different from each other than the Continental European ones are.

    When people vote, they're voting as much against as for -- and the two party system means both are usually a broad coalition of interests. A bunch of single-issue parties makes it easier to isolate and ignore "fringe" views.

    It's also actually easier for the Social Justice Warriors (SJW) to hijack several parties than just one -- in the present-day UK, the Scottish Nationalists, Welsh Nationalists, (Northern) Irish Nationalists, Liberal Democrats, Greens and Labour are all SJW parties. So are, I would argue, the Tories. That leaves UKIP with one seat in the House of Commons -- them and the Ulster Unionists -- as the only anti-SJW party. Pretty much a clean sweep, then, for the SJW.

    We were better off with just a SJW Labour Party and an anti-SJW Conservative Party.

    For the record, I'm not saying the two-party system can't ossify -- and the combined GOP/DEM collaboration on open-door immigration is an example of this. But just as the Federalists and the Whigs went the way the of the dinosaurs, the same thing is likely to happen to the Republicans. Because either the Republican party moves in the direction of Trump's anti-immigrant, anti invade the world/invite the world, oligarchy-loving present incarnation or it disappears.

    Much better the Dems end up facing a united America First Party than a fragmented collection of opposition parties -- many of which will, sooner or later, be SJW dominated.

    Replies: @Lagertha

  77. @Mr. Anon
    @Twinkie

    "Katrina Pierson, a Trump spokeswoman who once worked for Cruz, also said the [National Enquirer] story is false."

    Pierson has also been identified as one of the women whom the Enquirer claims had an affair with Cruz.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Pierson has also been identified as one of the women whom the Enquirer claims had an affair with Cruz.

    By ONE source – a Trump lackey that Trump’s campaign had to let go. It’s not some giant conspiracy. MSM is silent on the so-called scandal, because they have not been able to corroborate the story at all.

    • Replies: @Mr. ANon
    @Twinkie

    "By ONE source – a Trump lackey that Trump’s campaign had to let go."

    Pierson is a Trump lackey who has not been let go. So who is telling the truth? I don't know. And neither do you.

    "MSM is silent on the so-called scandal, because they have not been able to corroborate the story at all."

    They were silent about Edwards too. If they haven't been able to corroborate the story, it could be because they aren't even bothering to try.

    , @Bill
    @Twinkie

    What are you talking about? Pierson just is one of the women NE claims had an affair with Cruz. It's a fact. They published her picture.

  78. @Lagertha
    @epebble

    exactly. Finland had 7 parties in the early 2000's...now 8. More parties are a boon. As an independent, I have always hated the American system since I am utterly liberal in social policies but utterly conservative with fiscal/international/security/immigration/ policies.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @celt darnell

    More parties are a boon.

    Well if you want to hand fringe elements a lot more political power than they deserve (e.g. the Green Party), yes, you’d want more parties.

  79. iSteveFan says:
    @Twinkie
    @Lagertha


    he is, unfortunately, not the real deal.
     
    You just figured that out? And you call the hardworking, earnest Midwesterners "rubes"?

    Some of you (including you, Lagertha) are hypocrites and sore losers. If Democrats had derided "flyover country" whites as you had, you'd be rolling your eyes and vehemently criticizing them for casting aspersions on honest, hardworking, family-oriented good white folks.

    It's not the fault of those good folks that Trump is a clown who can't parrot simple policy descriptions, make up false stories, and goes after his rival's wife, and generally reveals himself to be a petulant, juvenile, silver-spooned showman.

    I liked some of his campaign's policy proposals (I am an immigration restrictionist, after all) and I enjoyed him making both the Establishment-at-large and the GOP Establishment squirm, and seriously considered supporting him (right until the Iowa caucuses) over Cruz. But at some point the clown show must end, and a candidate for president who is serious should show some mastery of detail, organization (after all, he is supposed to be a great manager of people and organizations), and substance as well as, gee, I don't know, a sense of dignity.

    Instead, Trump keeps shooting himself on the foot, and makes me glad that I cast my lot with Cruz, as much as he gives off that used car salesman vibe (though a highly intelligent one).

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Lagertha, @Truth, @Bill

    (I am an immigration restrictionist, after all) and I enjoyed him making both the Establishment-at-large and the GOP Establishment squirm, and seriously considered supporting him (right until the Iowa caucuses) over Cruz.

    How do you reconcile your support of Cruz on immigration when Jeff Sessions and the Border Patrol are behind Trump? If Cruz were the real deal on immigration, wouldn’t they rally around him?

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @iSteveFan


    How do you reconcile your support of Cruz on immigration when Jeff Sessions and the Border Patrol are behind Trump? If Cruz were the real deal on immigration, wouldn’t they rally around him?
     
    Steve King endorsed Cruz. And NumbersUSA gave Cruz a higher rating than it did Trump.

    Replies: @iSteveFan

  80. @Twinkie
    @rod1963


    Problem is you can’t say any of that at Pro-Trump sites because they go nuts. They think Trump is infallible. He’s not, he’s shot himself in the foot more than once. His failure to fund a serious ground game in the fly over states hurt him badly – all because he’s a cheap ass, his failure to address certain issues in some degree of specificity in public in a non flip flop manner like H1-B visa workers. In one debate he said he supported bringing in more H1-B workers then said the opposite afterwards.
     
    The Cult of Trump Personality is really quite something. If some of these cultists actually looked at Trump critically, they should realize that he is a HIGHLY flawed candidate for a very good message. The problem with that is he might bring down that good message spectacularly should he flop.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Anonym, @TangoMan, @TangoMan

    If you are against cultists, how do you feel about Ted’s number one supporter Glenn Beck? Shouldn’t Cruz at least publicly denounce such a loon?

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @iSteveFan


    If you are against cultists, how do you feel about Ted’s number one supporter Glenn Beck? Shouldn’t Cruz at least publicly denounce such a loon?
     
    Yes, Glenn Beck is a loon. I am not one to demand that candidates denounce their loony supporters. I was not one of the nimbies who demanded that Trump disavow the KKK's (alleged) support.

    I don't think Glenn Beck is "Ted's number one supporter."

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Mr. Anon, @iSteveFan

    , @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @iSteveFan

    If you are against cultists, how do you feel about Ted’s number one supporter Glenn Beck? Shouldn’t Cruz at least publicly denounce such a loon?

    I realize that it may be very difficult for a normal man to understand this, but in much of the country (particularly among supporters of Sen. Theodore Jehosophat Cruise's Presidential campaign), Glenn Beck is considered a perfectly reasonable man. An admirable man, even. I realize that's difficult to comprehend, but shockingly, its true.

  81. @Twinkie
    @rod1963


    Problem is you can’t say any of that at Pro-Trump sites because they go nuts. They think Trump is infallible. He’s not, he’s shot himself in the foot more than once. His failure to fund a serious ground game in the fly over states hurt him badly – all because he’s a cheap ass, his failure to address certain issues in some degree of specificity in public in a non flip flop manner like H1-B visa workers. In one debate he said he supported bringing in more H1-B workers then said the opposite afterwards.
     
    The Cult of Trump Personality is really quite something. If some of these cultists actually looked at Trump critically, they should realize that he is a HIGHLY flawed candidate for a very good message. The problem with that is he might bring down that good message spectacularly should he flop.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Anonym, @TangoMan, @TangoMan

    I get the feeling you are concern trolling.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Anonym

    "I get the feeling you are concern trolling."

    I don't think he is. Twinkie is a good guy. He's just arguing for his guy, as we Trump supporters are arguing for ours.

    We don't all have to agree on everything.

    Replies: @Anonym, @Twinkie

  82. @Twinkie
    @rod1963


    Problem is you can’t say any of that at Pro-Trump sites because they go nuts. They think Trump is infallible. He’s not, he’s shot himself in the foot more than once. His failure to fund a serious ground game in the fly over states hurt him badly – all because he’s a cheap ass, his failure to address certain issues in some degree of specificity in public in a non flip flop manner like H1-B visa workers. In one debate he said he supported bringing in more H1-B workers then said the opposite afterwards.
     
    The Cult of Trump Personality is really quite something. If some of these cultists actually looked at Trump critically, they should realize that he is a HIGHLY flawed candidate for a very good message. The problem with that is he might bring down that good message spectacularly should he flop.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Anonym, @TangoMan, @TangoMan

    There are Trump cultists, sure, but they’re pikers compared to the Cruz cultists. They combine conservatist purity with anti-Trump animus and, while each in their own right match the Trump cultists, the combination of both positions makes these guys come across as people who will walk through hell in order to complete their Holy Mission of delivering Cruz to the WH and keeping Trump out of it. Every political strategist wants to find ways to corral 50.1% of the population into his political movement but the Cruz cultists are taking the NRO purge impulse and are focused on purging the party down to a pure 10% of the entire electorate and want to banish every Trump supporter from the vicinity of any Republican office.

    These guys are like Kamikazes compared to Trump followers.

    • Replies: @wonderbread
    @TangoMan

    You're mixing up two groups. Cruz always had a fairly small but very devoted following of church-going evangelicals and other movement conservatives. The #NeverTrump crowd are Rubio people. Their website used to have a map up that proved this beyond doubt, but it was so embarrassing that they took it down. It's Florida plus some big cities, mostly on the coasts. Cruz seems to regard the Rubio people as useful idiots, much as Trump regards everyone except himself.

    Replies: @Bill

  83. @Buzz Mohawk
    Forget about the election. Harvard isn't admitting enough Chinese students.

    Replies: @Lagertha

    forget Asians, Harvard is not admitting enough of ANY of the smartest students in the country! – but all these “rejected” geniuses are getting really good scholarships from lowly state U and unknown-3rd tier-private U, and graduating to excellent jobs ($220K+) without ANY debt! Yey! Cream always rises to the top.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Lagertha

    You make a good point.

    The whole Ivy thing has evolved into something that reminds me of the way consumers buy products for their prestige value. See all the lowly women carrying ugly, brown Louis Vuitton bags for example. They spend money they shouldn't just so they can display the LV.

    There are so many examples I could fill a book. Trump caters to this crowd, and I think the Ivy colleges do too.

    , @Suburban Dad
    @Lagertha

    Kids who are qualified to go Ivy-or-peer (Stanford, MIT, etc.) but are rejected don't end up at lowly state schools or third tier private schools. They are going to private schools of the BU / Vanderbilt / Emory / Rice tier or to flagship public universities. And if they are white or Asian the "full ride" scholarships they are getting are still leaving them with $25k of debt. (The Ivies and Stanford, on the other hand, guarantee that all but actually rich kids graduate 100% debt free.)

    While immediate $220k jobs are a hyperbole -- that's total comp for the top 1% or 2% of the first year analyst class at Goldman, and for coders/biz dev guys who luck into a startup that has a step-change valuation event a few months later -- there are quite a few reliably >$100k+ jobs out there for 22 year old freshly-minted graduates, but Ivy and equivalent grads have basically an 80% chance of getting one if they want and your protypical unfair Ivy reject (who, let's say, is instead at Rice or UT Austin) has a less than 10% chance of getting one.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  84. @iSteveFan
    @Twinkie

    (I am an immigration restrictionist, after all) and I enjoyed him making both the Establishment-at-large and the GOP Establishment squirm, and seriously considered supporting him (right until the Iowa caucuses) over Cruz.

    How do you reconcile your support of Cruz on immigration when Jeff Sessions and the Border Patrol are behind Trump? If Cruz were the real deal on immigration, wouldn't they rally around him?

    Replies: @Twinkie

    How do you reconcile your support of Cruz on immigration when Jeff Sessions and the Border Patrol are behind Trump? If Cruz were the real deal on immigration, wouldn’t they rally around him?

    Steve King endorsed Cruz. And NumbersUSA gave Cruz a higher rating than it did Trump.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Twinkie

    Jeff Sessions is the greatest immigratioin patriot in Congress. He is a fellow Senator with Cruz. Yet he endorsed Trump. That is telling.

  85. So White people who haven’t been hit hard with Diversity can be suckered into voting cuckservative.

    Nothing new there.

  86. @Twinkie
    @rod1963


    Problem is you can’t say any of that at Pro-Trump sites because they go nuts. They think Trump is infallible. He’s not, he’s shot himself in the foot more than once. His failure to fund a serious ground game in the fly over states hurt him badly – all because he’s a cheap ass, his failure to address certain issues in some degree of specificity in public in a non flip flop manner like H1-B visa workers. In one debate he said he supported bringing in more H1-B workers then said the opposite afterwards.
     
    The Cult of Trump Personality is really quite something. If some of these cultists actually looked at Trump critically, they should realize that he is a HIGHLY flawed candidate for a very good message. The problem with that is he might bring down that good message spectacularly should he flop.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Anonym, @TangoMan, @TangoMan

    The problem with that is he might bring down that good message spectacularly should he flop.

    Guaranteed he’ll sink the message. That’s exactly what the Establishment guys want, that outcome gives them a hook on which to sell the renunciation of Trumpism – “look, the message was put before the voters and they rejected the message.” They’ll never say that the voters liked the message but rejected Trump. They’re already trotting out this reasoning concerned support for the wall – support for the wall has declined since Trump began advocating for it.

    The problem is that no one else has Trump’s message and in the future any candidate who can’t command the media like Trump is going to be dependent on donor financing and so a new face pushing the Trump message is not going to come about.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @TangoMan


    That’s exactly what the Establishment guys want, that outcome gives them a hook on which to sell the renunciation of Trumpism – “look, the message was put before the voters and they rejected the message.” They’ll never say that the voters liked the message but rejected Trump.
     
    Yes.

    The problem is that no one else has Trump’s message and in the future any candidate who can’t command the media like Trump is going to be dependent on donor financing and so a new face pushing the Trump message is not going to come about.
     
    I am willing to take a gamble on Cruz. He won my respect when he managed to win Iowa after coming out against the ethanol subsidy. That showed principle. And he has shown that he can organized, which shows competence.

    Replies: @iSteveFan

  87. @iSteveFan
    @Twinkie

    If you are against cultists, how do you feel about Ted's number one supporter Glenn Beck? Shouldn't Cruz at least publicly denounce such a loon?

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    If you are against cultists, how do you feel about Ted’s number one supporter Glenn Beck? Shouldn’t Cruz at least publicly denounce such a loon?

    Yes, Glenn Beck is a loon. I am not one to demand that candidates denounce their loony supporters. I was not one of the nimbies who demanded that Trump disavow the KKK’s (alleged) support.

    I don’t think Glenn Beck is “Ted’s number one supporter.”

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Twinkie


    I don’t think Glenn Beck is “Ted’s number one supporter.”
     
    Everyday is a three hour commercial for Cruz supplemented with ant-Trump rhetoric. I wonder why Trump and the other candidates don't demand equal time from radio stations that carry Beck. At least Rush and Hannity give each candidate a fair shake.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Twinkie

    "Yes, Glenn Beck is a loon. I am not one to demand that candidates denounce their loony supporters. "

    I agree. I would not ask that Cruz denounce Beck. But did he have to get on a stage with him and allow Beck to administer a phony oath of office to him? Did he have to go to the border to help Beck hand out teddy bears to illegal aliens?

    , @iSteveFan
    @Twinkie


    I was not one of the nimbies who demanded that Trump disavow the KKK’s (alleged) support.
     
    A big difference is that Trump didn't know Duke,nor solicit his support. Beck is a friend of Cruz, and Cruz has appeared with this loon on numerous occasions. Beck spoke ahead of Cruz at a rally. So I don't think you can compare Cruz/Beck with Trump/Duke.
  88. @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @International Jew

    Please list the non-flakes running for President.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    You have to be a flake to run for president — insane, a slave to your YUUGE ego, really into masochism.

    Seriously, we tear them down. Then we tear down the one who wins while he tries to do the job.

    And people wonder why we’ve had so many lousy presidents.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Buzz Mohawk


    You have to be a flake to run for president — insane, a slave to your YUUGE ego, really into masochism.
     
    They are not masochists. Politicians, not just presidential candidates, are often very narcissistic and require the adulations of others. Unlike better-adjusted human beings, they have to be the sun of their own universe in which even their children are mere satellites.

    I have no faith in any politician. However, politics is something - however corrupt - that can be harnessed. Politicians respond fairly well to pain and pressure. As the saying goes, a congressman begins to see the light when his office gets the 500th constituent phone call denouncing what he erred on earlier that day.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

  89. @Twinkie
    @iSteveFan


    How do you reconcile your support of Cruz on immigration when Jeff Sessions and the Border Patrol are behind Trump? If Cruz were the real deal on immigration, wouldn’t they rally around him?
     
    Steve King endorsed Cruz. And NumbersUSA gave Cruz a higher rating than it did Trump.

    Replies: @iSteveFan

    Jeff Sessions is the greatest immigratioin patriot in Congress. He is a fellow Senator with Cruz. Yet he endorsed Trump. That is telling.

  90. @Twinkie
    @Mr. Anon


    Pierson has also been identified as one of the women whom the Enquirer claims had an affair with Cruz.
     
    By ONE source - a Trump lackey that Trump's campaign had to let go. It's not some giant conspiracy. MSM is silent on the so-called scandal, because they have not been able to corroborate the story at all.

    Replies: @Mr. ANon, @Bill

    “By ONE source – a Trump lackey that Trump’s campaign had to let go.”

    Pierson is a Trump lackey who has not been let go. So who is telling the truth? I don’t know. And neither do you.

    “MSM is silent on the so-called scandal, because they have not been able to corroborate the story at all.”

    They were silent about Edwards too. If they haven’t been able to corroborate the story, it could be because they aren’t even bothering to try.

  91. @TangoMan
    @Twinkie

    The problem with that is he might bring down that good message spectacularly should he flop.

    Guaranteed he'll sink the message. That's exactly what the Establishment guys want, that outcome gives them a hook on which to sell the renunciation of Trumpism - "look, the message was put before the voters and they rejected the message." They'll never say that the voters liked the message but rejected Trump. They're already trotting out this reasoning concerned support for the wall - support for the wall has declined since Trump began advocating for it.

    The problem is that no one else has Trump's message and in the future any candidate who can't command the media like Trump is going to be dependent on donor financing and so a new face pushing the Trump message is not going to come about.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    That’s exactly what the Establishment guys want, that outcome gives them a hook on which to sell the renunciation of Trumpism – “look, the message was put before the voters and they rejected the message.” They’ll never say that the voters liked the message but rejected Trump.

    Yes.

    The problem is that no one else has Trump’s message and in the future any candidate who can’t command the media like Trump is going to be dependent on donor financing and so a new face pushing the Trump message is not going to come about.

    I am willing to take a gamble on Cruz. He won my respect when he managed to win Iowa after coming out against the ethanol subsidy. That showed principle. And he has shown that he can organized, which shows competence.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Twinkie

    What states that Obama won does Cruz have a realistic chance of winning? I don't even think Cruz can take back Florida or Virginia. And with his support for TPP I don't think he could win Ohio or PA.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Kevin O'Keeffe

  92. @Bert
    An entirely avoidable defeat cause by Trump's constant flip-flopping and total inability to stop tweeting about random people he doesn't like. I'm honestly starting to wonder if this isn't actually just an ego drive, because any real candidate would have stopped this shit ages ago. The fact that the Heidi Cruz debacle arguably cost him the state (he was leading in polls prior to it) just drives home the point.

    Granted I'm still going to vote for him and I like what he stands for, but he needs to put up or shut up.

    Replies: @CommentGuy

    The “Heidi Cruz debacle” had nothing to do with Trump losing Wisconsin, and that kind of comment is so off as to be suspicious. The most material contributor to the WI loss, other than broad cultural factors, was the media almost completely punting on the opportunity to rake Ted Cruz, a hypocritical bible-thumping serial cheater, over the coals. The media’s treatment of the Cruz sex scandal is almost impossible to fathom in this day and age and suggests something very sneaky is afoot.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @CommentGuy


    The media’s treatment of the Cruz sex scandal is almost impossible to fathom in this day and age and suggests something very sneaky is afoot.
     
    The media has already covered the so-called scandal. You just refuse to see the reality.
    Look, it's perfectly understandable for one to support Trump and oppose Cruz. But don't abandon your reasoning ability completely. The sex scandal is a non-starter because it is completely uncorroborated.

    Replies: @Truth, @CommentGuy

    , @Bert
    @CommentGuy

    I swear hardcore Trump supporters are getting almost as bad as Ron Paul fanatics. Poor old John Nolte found that out recently.

  93. iSteveFan says:
    @Twinkie
    @iSteveFan


    If you are against cultists, how do you feel about Ted’s number one supporter Glenn Beck? Shouldn’t Cruz at least publicly denounce such a loon?
     
    Yes, Glenn Beck is a loon. I am not one to demand that candidates denounce their loony supporters. I was not one of the nimbies who demanded that Trump disavow the KKK's (alleged) support.

    I don't think Glenn Beck is "Ted's number one supporter."

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Mr. Anon, @iSteveFan

    I don’t think Glenn Beck is “Ted’s number one supporter.”

    Everyday is a three hour commercial for Cruz supplemented with ant-Trump rhetoric. I wonder why Trump and the other candidates don’t demand equal time from radio stations that carry Beck. At least Rush and Hannity give each candidate a fair shake.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @iSteveFan


    Everyday is a three hour commercial for Cruz supplemented with ant-Trump rhetoric.
     
    I don't listen to Beck, so I wouldn't know.

    Replies: @iSteveFan

  94. @Twinkie
    @TangoMan


    That’s exactly what the Establishment guys want, that outcome gives them a hook on which to sell the renunciation of Trumpism – “look, the message was put before the voters and they rejected the message.” They’ll never say that the voters liked the message but rejected Trump.
     
    Yes.

    The problem is that no one else has Trump’s message and in the future any candidate who can’t command the media like Trump is going to be dependent on donor financing and so a new face pushing the Trump message is not going to come about.
     
    I am willing to take a gamble on Cruz. He won my respect when he managed to win Iowa after coming out against the ethanol subsidy. That showed principle. And he has shown that he can organized, which shows competence.

    Replies: @iSteveFan

    What states that Obama won does Cruz have a realistic chance of winning? I don’t even think Cruz can take back Florida or Virginia. And with his support for TPP I don’t think he could win Ohio or PA.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @iSteveFan


    What states that Obama won does Cruz have a realistic chance of winning? I don’t even think Cruz can take back Florida or Virginia. And with his support for TPP I don’t he could win Ohio or PA.
     
    You overestimate Hillary Clinton's likability. Cruz is smarter, better at debates, and is more disciplined than Clinton.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @iSteveFan, @5371, @Not sure

    , @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @iSteveFan

    "What states that Obama won does Cruz have a realistic chance of winning? I don’t even think Cruz can take back Florida or Virginia. And with his support for TPP I don’t think he could win Ohio or PA."

    Cruz would be very lucky indeed, merely to hold onto the states Romney carried. My guess is he'd lose North Carolina, Indiana, Missouri, and maybe a few others.

  95. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    You have to be a flake to run for president -- insane, a slave to your YUUGE ego, really into masochism.

    Seriously, we tear them down. Then we tear down the one who wins while he tries to do the job.

    And people wonder why we've had so many lousy presidents.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    You have to be a flake to run for president — insane, a slave to your YUUGE ego, really into masochism.

    They are not masochists. Politicians, not just presidential candidates, are often very narcissistic and require the adulations of others. Unlike better-adjusted human beings, they have to be the sun of their own universe in which even their children are mere satellites.

    I have no faith in any politician. However, politics is something – however corrupt – that can be harnessed. Politicians respond fairly well to pain and pressure. As the saying goes, a congressman begins to see the light when his office gets the 500th constituent phone call denouncing what he erred on earlier that day.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Twinkie


    I have no faith in any politician. However, politics is something – however corrupt – that can be harnessed.
     
    Well said.

    This is the principle upon which our Constitution is based. The authors knew human nature is what it is.

    The central conceit of the political left, of communist and socialist philosophies, is that human faults can be eliminated for the good of the people. This false assumption is why they fail -- and why they allow the power-hungry to control others.

    Replies: @Pat Casey, @StAugustine

  96. @Twinkie
    @Lagertha


    he is, unfortunately, not the real deal.
     
    You just figured that out? And you call the hardworking, earnest Midwesterners "rubes"?

    Some of you (including you, Lagertha) are hypocrites and sore losers. If Democrats had derided "flyover country" whites as you had, you'd be rolling your eyes and vehemently criticizing them for casting aspersions on honest, hardworking, family-oriented good white folks.

    It's not the fault of those good folks that Trump is a clown who can't parrot simple policy descriptions, make up false stories, and goes after his rival's wife, and generally reveals himself to be a petulant, juvenile, silver-spooned showman.

    I liked some of his campaign's policy proposals (I am an immigration restrictionist, after all) and I enjoyed him making both the Establishment-at-large and the GOP Establishment squirm, and seriously considered supporting him (right until the Iowa caucuses) over Cruz. But at some point the clown show must end, and a candidate for president who is serious should show some mastery of detail, organization (after all, he is supposed to be a great manager of people and organizations), and substance as well as, gee, I don't know, a sense of dignity.

    Instead, Trump keeps shooting himself on the foot, and makes me glad that I cast my lot with Cruz, as much as he gives off that used car salesman vibe (though a highly intelligent one).

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Lagertha, @Truth, @Bill

    You are so annoying because you read between the lines ALL the time! I have voted for Democrats for 2 decades, you maroon!

    I am saying, “flyover state” people are being mislead by the oleaginous Cruz (and the creepy, creepy Walker) who is a frightening, evil clown with a horrible voice, no charisma, and no chance of EVER, simply, EVER becoming a president of anything except the PTO of his daughters’ school.

    And, saying you had a Jones for Palin just grossed-me-out big, time. Palin was looney-tunes, bimbo of all bimbos, low hanging fruit of the biggest fruits in a long time; a financially mercenary creep with an embarrassing family full of drunks and losers. McCain lost BIG-Time because everyone hated and feared her. Good night, all.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Lagertha


    And, saying you had a Jones for Palin just grossed-me-out big, time. Palin was looney-tunes, bimbo of all bimbos, low hanging fruit of the biggest fruits in a long time
     
    You appear to be a wannabe elitist.

    I am an Ivy Leaguer married to another Ivy Leaguer, both with doctorates. I spilled my blood for this country overseas. And my wife and I built a successful biomedical company (which we sold). We never ever have to work again nor will any of our descendants. My wife and I have all the credentials to be a part of the real elites if that were what we desired.

    But I have a far greater regard than you do for a person, a product of those "third rate" schools you purport to valorize, who built herself up through grit and went on take on something as corrupt and formidable as the Alaska (GOP) Establishment. Yes, Palin went wrong after being nominated for the VP slot. But she was a great promising political talent. There is nothing gross about recognizing what could have been.

    Replies: @TangoMan, @Truth

  97. @iSteveFan
    @Twinkie

    What states that Obama won does Cruz have a realistic chance of winning? I don't even think Cruz can take back Florida or Virginia. And with his support for TPP I don't think he could win Ohio or PA.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    What states that Obama won does Cruz have a realistic chance of winning? I don’t even think Cruz can take back Florida or Virginia. And with his support for TPP I don’t he could win Ohio or PA.

    You overestimate Hillary Clinton’s likability. Cruz is smarter, better at debates, and is more disciplined than Clinton.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Twinkie

    "You overestimate Hillary Clinton’s likability. Cruz is smarter, better at debates, and is more disciplined than Clinton."

    And Cruz is more likely to turn off Democrats and independents than is Trump.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @iSteveFan
    @Twinkie

    Cruz is physically unappealing. He is not photogenic and his bible antics won't play in much of the nation. He will be limited to solid red states and won't be able to compete at all in purple states.

    Hillary will have the full tailwind of the MSM behind her.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @5371
    @Twinkie

    If you think general election results depend on debates or "likability" (however you define it, it's hardly a characteristic of Cruz), you don't know the first thing about them. Cruz offers absolutely nothing to any voter not already part of the Republican base.

    , @Not sure
    @Twinkie

    You overestimate the importance of being "better at debates." The point of debates is not to prove your ideas are better. The fraction of the audience capable of following that logic has made their minds up already. The point of having a debate is that it gives you a chance to create a moment that shows your strength and your opponent's weakness in a memorable way that gets through to the persuadable/not-too-bright voters out there. It should be obvious that Trump can play that game better than twerpy Cruz.

  98. @Twinkie
    @iSteveFan


    If you are against cultists, how do you feel about Ted’s number one supporter Glenn Beck? Shouldn’t Cruz at least publicly denounce such a loon?
     
    Yes, Glenn Beck is a loon. I am not one to demand that candidates denounce their loony supporters. I was not one of the nimbies who demanded that Trump disavow the KKK's (alleged) support.

    I don't think Glenn Beck is "Ted's number one supporter."

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Mr. Anon, @iSteveFan

    “Yes, Glenn Beck is a loon. I am not one to demand that candidates denounce their loony supporters. ”

    I agree. I would not ask that Cruz denounce Beck. But did he have to get on a stage with him and allow Beck to administer a phony oath of office to him? Did he have to go to the border to help Beck hand out teddy bears to illegal aliens?

  99. Pat Casey says:

    And they didn’t shoot Eamon de Valera either, not wanting trouble with America where he was born. A man they did shoot was Maud Gonne’s estranged husband, John MacBride. He declined a blindfold, having, he said, faced enemy rifles too often to need one now, and left the British to work out his meaning: that they’d missed one chance to kill him in South Africa, when he fought them at the side of the Boers.

    The last thing MacBride told his men was don’t get stuck in buildings again. Michael Collins heard him, and the rest is history. He wasn’t even supposed to be there, MacBride; Connolly literally ran into him strolling down the street as they were making their way to meet a war with the British Empire, and mentioned he might come along. That’s why Yeats, Easter 1916, called it “this casual comedy.”

    What we can say about the tick-tock of his subsequent role is that MacBride was the only one they really needed.

    And of course, as if anticipating himself, Yeats had called him “a clown” before the woman this Laureate proposed to too many times to count married the man. “A drunken vainglorious lout, he had done most bitter wrong to some who are near my heart. Yet I number him in the song.”

    But none of the poem’s caretakers have considered the final stanza as it deserves to be treated, when being treated with precision. The preceding stanza (III) is a meditation on the true believer, a poet’s salute to an archetype, the revolutionary ideologue, whose commitment to the cause is like a Platonic ideal, static as a stone midst the flux of Heraclitus. The true believer denies himself the simple pleasure of precious found treasures, since his heart is owned by one purpose alone.

    The final stanza (IV) starts with an abrupt about-face from the preceding stanza’s sentiment. The heart as though enchanted to a stone becomes a stone when so much of it is sacrificed for the sake of the cause. When may the sacrifices earn its reward? That’s up to God, and pointless to bother about; our office is to see that the names of the martyrs go down in history.

    After a metaphor about a mother and child, we hear a naïve voice: “Was it but nightfall?” No, no, dear child—your father is dead. Then, as a mother must ask herself, “Was it needless death after all?” The possibility that it was needless affirms doubt: “We know their dreams; enough / to know they dreamed and are dead.” The poignancy of those two lines is apt to distract from the attitude actually mimicked—yes, yes, we know, we know: and now they’re dead. The precise attitude right then is dismissive, not poignant—that is the climactic juncture of the poem, and exactly where lit crits have skipped over or gone wrong.

    Now, recall the stanza began, “Too long a sacrifice / Can make a stone of the heart.” The last question asks, “And what if excess of love / Bewildered them til they died?” That says, what if their hearts were not stones but rather a heart of stone’s antipode, as in a heart overfilled of love? Whether their names deserve to be murmured hangs right there on that question. Where did the question come from? It came from the verge of denying the memory of these martyrs; it came from the edge of giving their names over to oblivion; it came from a quickening doubt about their estimate. On the verge of that edge, a thought is struck—an image, a doomed man, a prisoner all alone in the dark of some filthy steel pin, a prisoner aware of where his heart is headed, and aware of how much he will miss all that he loved, and his mind is now imprisoned too, by that miserable thought.

    The poem’s assumption thus far has been the soldier nature of these martyrs, their brave dream—their strength of decision; the poet imagines their hearts are as strong and unwavering as stone. Then the poet imagines their actions as perhaps less than admirable and them and their dream deserving of dismissal. The poet is turning his back on the faithful dead, and then the question comes to him—“And what if excess of love / Bewildered them til they died?”—except it doesn’t come as a question at all, just that abject image of a doomed man fixated on his pitiable fate; and the image instantaneously hits like a brick, for that is the natural way the mind would know it, and the image is profoundly awful, simply unbearable. The poet thinks the sorry painful thought and in the same motion the elegy swings around with a furious come-back, a blazing fist that hammers oak like an anvil set to steal: Perish the thought!—I WRITE IT OUT IN A VERSE.

    “And what if excess of love bewildered them til they died?” Consider the question really: What if sadness bewildered them? What if their famous bravery left them, and they died unrecognizably sad? Being bewildered by excess of love does not mean a terribly beautiful love is bewildering you. It means you are sad to death, not deathly in love. The hardest thing to look at is not a brave man cut down but a brave man cut down by sadness on his way to being executed. A hard truth about human nature is that it heaps more sympathy on heroes who are besmirched than on Joe Shmoes who are travestied. That’s why it’s so viscerally horrifying to see a hero travestied under Joe Shmoe’s aspect.

    Every bit of that poem’s power comes from Yeats’ personal connection to MacBride, it would seem to me. He couldn’t have known it at the time, but what he’s really saying is O God I hope he went down exactly like he did, vain and glorious.

    As I’ve said before Trump has already won. How can everyone not see that? He can say you should have been indicted as many times as he wants and say it whenever he doesn’t want to say what he otherwise would. Would that he could but Bernie doesn’t really even believe he can. I think, me myself, personally, that this is the perfect opportunity for Trump to switch to the general election issues. Something like, by now, we will need a real explanation for why she was not if she isn’t. We must have that answer or Obama deserves to be impeached. By God just do nothing that’s not brave. The poets are on your side, and they have already written your verse.

  100. @CommentGuy
    @Bert

    The "Heidi Cruz debacle" had nothing to do with Trump losing Wisconsin, and that kind of comment is so off as to be suspicious. The most material contributor to the WI loss, other than broad cultural factors, was the media almost completely punting on the opportunity to rake Ted Cruz, a hypocritical bible-thumping serial cheater, over the coals. The media's treatment of the Cruz sex scandal is almost impossible to fathom in this day and age and suggests something very sneaky is afoot.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Bert

    The media’s treatment of the Cruz sex scandal is almost impossible to fathom in this day and age and suggests something very sneaky is afoot.

    The media has already covered the so-called scandal. You just refuse to see the reality.
    Look, it’s perfectly understandable for one to support Trump and oppose Cruz. But don’t abandon your reasoning ability completely. The sex scandal is a non-starter because it is completely uncorroborated.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Twinkie

    "The sex scandal is a non-starter because it is completely uncorroborated."

    It's highly corroborated until the day he files a libel suit.

    , @CommentGuy
    @Twinkie

    3 out of 5. If you're getting paid for your comments on this blog, please pass my rating along to your superior.

    Media has largely opted not to dig into the story, despite the fact that Ted Cruz completely tipped his hand with his behavior after the scandal broke. Time will be very revealing on this one.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  101. @Twinkie
    @iSteveFan


    What states that Obama won does Cruz have a realistic chance of winning? I don’t even think Cruz can take back Florida or Virginia. And with his support for TPP I don’t he could win Ohio or PA.
     
    You overestimate Hillary Clinton's likability. Cruz is smarter, better at debates, and is more disciplined than Clinton.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @iSteveFan, @5371, @Not sure

    “You overestimate Hillary Clinton’s likability. Cruz is smarter, better at debates, and is more disciplined than Clinton.”

    And Cruz is more likely to turn off Democrats and independents than is Trump.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Mr. Anon


    And Cruz is more likely to turn off Democrats and independents than is Trump.
     
    Maybe. But Trump is turning off married women in droves. And when the GOP loses married women, it does very poorly. Cruz doesn't have to attract Democrats to win.

    Replies: @TangoMan, @Jefferson

  102. @Lagertha
    @Buzz Mohawk

    forget Asians, Harvard is not admitting enough of ANY of the smartest students in the country! - but all these "rejected" geniuses are getting really good scholarships from lowly state U and unknown-3rd tier-private U, and graduating to excellent jobs ($220K+) without ANY debt! Yey! Cream always rises to the top.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Suburban Dad

    You make a good point.

    The whole Ivy thing has evolved into something that reminds me of the way consumers buy products for their prestige value. See all the lowly women carrying ugly, brown Louis Vuitton bags for example. They spend money they shouldn’t just so they can display the LV.

    There are so many examples I could fill a book. Trump caters to this crowd, and I think the Ivy colleges do too.

  103. @iSteveFan
    @Twinkie


    I don’t think Glenn Beck is “Ted’s number one supporter.”
     
    Everyday is a three hour commercial for Cruz supplemented with ant-Trump rhetoric. I wonder why Trump and the other candidates don't demand equal time from radio stations that carry Beck. At least Rush and Hannity give each candidate a fair shake.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Everyday is a three hour commercial for Cruz supplemented with ant-Trump rhetoric.

    I don’t listen to Beck, so I wouldn’t know.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Twinkie

    If you get the chance and haven't eaten breakfast yet, turn him on. It is pretty intense. He treats Cruz like he is some sort of biblical prophecy. He has already said he will oppose Trump if Trump wins the nomination.

    Cruz ought to put the kibosh on that talk because many Trump supporters might return the favor if Cruz wins.

  104. @Laguna Beach Fogey
    Iowa, Utah, and now Wisconsin. Three of the most cucked states in the country.

    I had almost forgotten that Scott Walker was even a candidate early on.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    In Dane county, WI, home of the University of Wisconsin-Madison, Trump even almost lost it to Kasich: 30.3% vs 29.1%

    Ultimately, it was the populous Milwaukee area that made all the difference by voting for Cruz to the tune of 60+%

  105. @Twinkie
    @iSteveFan


    What states that Obama won does Cruz have a realistic chance of winning? I don’t even think Cruz can take back Florida or Virginia. And with his support for TPP I don’t he could win Ohio or PA.
     
    You overestimate Hillary Clinton's likability. Cruz is smarter, better at debates, and is more disciplined than Clinton.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @iSteveFan, @5371, @Not sure

    Cruz is physically unappealing. He is not photogenic and his bible antics won’t play in much of the nation. He will be limited to solid red states and won’t be able to compete at all in purple states.

    Hillary will have the full tailwind of the MSM behind her.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @iSteveFan


    Cruz is physically unappealing. He is not photogenic and his bible antics won’t play in much of the nation. He will be limited to solid red states and won’t be able to compete at all in purple states.

    Hillary will have the full tailwind of the MSM behind her.
     

    And me, a straight ticket Republican voter for 40 years. What the establishment has done has made me realize that I cannot support a Cruz, Kasich, Ryan, etc. With certitude I will vote for Hillary over Cruz. I've convinced other Republican family members in battlegrounds states to do the same. Worse is the better option. Vote the bigger devil.

    Replies: @Jefferson

  106. iSteveFan says:
    @Twinkie
    @iSteveFan


    Everyday is a three hour commercial for Cruz supplemented with ant-Trump rhetoric.
     
    I don't listen to Beck, so I wouldn't know.

    Replies: @iSteveFan

    If you get the chance and haven’t eaten breakfast yet, turn him on. It is pretty intense. He treats Cruz like he is some sort of biblical prophecy. He has already said he will oppose Trump if Trump wins the nomination.

    Cruz ought to put the kibosh on that talk because many Trump supporters might return the favor if Cruz wins.

  107. @Anonym
    @Twinkie

    I get the feeling you are concern trolling.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    “I get the feeling you are concern trolling.”

    I don’t think he is. Twinkie is a good guy. He’s just arguing for his guy, as we Trump supporters are arguing for ours.

    We don’t all have to agree on everything.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @Mr. Anon

    I think Twinkie is more like a Twinkie with custard inside. To outward appearances yellow on the outside, white on the inside, but really yellow on the inside too. When the white demographic has no practical remaining chance to dominate the electorate, there will be a "What do you mean 'we', paleface?" moment from him and those like him.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Twinkie
    @Mr. Anon


    I don’t think he is. Twinkie is a good guy. He’s just arguing for his guy, as we Trump supporters are arguing for ours.

    We don’t all have to agree on everything.
     
    Thanks. You are right. I am not "trolling," whatever that means. I am not exactly thrilled with Cruz, but I do earnestly think he is more of a known quantity than Trump. And if "my guy" were to lose, and Trump were to be the GOP candidate, I will support Trump and do my best to beat the other team. I have pledged to do so, and my word is my bond.

    I am fiercely conservative, but I know that asking for 100% ideological purity from my allies is a surefire way to make the tent as small as possible and earn defeat after defeat.
  108. @Twinkie
    @Buzz Mohawk


    You have to be a flake to run for president — insane, a slave to your YUUGE ego, really into masochism.
     
    They are not masochists. Politicians, not just presidential candidates, are often very narcissistic and require the adulations of others. Unlike better-adjusted human beings, they have to be the sun of their own universe in which even their children are mere satellites.

    I have no faith in any politician. However, politics is something - however corrupt - that can be harnessed. Politicians respond fairly well to pain and pressure. As the saying goes, a congressman begins to see the light when his office gets the 500th constituent phone call denouncing what he erred on earlier that day.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    I have no faith in any politician. However, politics is something – however corrupt – that can be harnessed.

    Well said.

    This is the principle upon which our Constitution is based. The authors knew human nature is what it is.

    The central conceit of the political left, of communist and socialist philosophies, is that human faults can be eliminated for the good of the people. This false assumption is why they fail — and why they allow the power-hungry to control others.

    • Replies: @Pat Casey
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Its so hard to change the past when you think about it. Remember when you told me Bucky Fuller quoted Pound's Thinking Changes What Is Thought About? Pound never actually wrote that. Fuller said no chance of digging it up but I remember the memory. Thanks to Hugh Kenner, we realize thinking about thinking changing changes Pound. That's why we shouldn't even think about those we have no connection to. Faults are eliminated at the speed of time. Duh.

    , @StAugustine
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I think it goes even further back.
    "Put your trust not in princes."
    Ah, timeless wisdom-priceless.

  109. The women in my family find Cruz repulsive and reptilian. These are GOP voters. I see what they mean. He looks in-bred to me. Every time he speaks I expect him to take a banjo out and begin playing the theme from Deliverance.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Cwhatfuture

    Cruz looks like a cross between Larry Linville and Murray Hamilton; it isn't going to help him in the General. It's shallow and unfair, to be sure. Looks shouldn't matter, but they do, apparently, to a lot of people.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Old fogey

    , @Anonymous
    @Cwhatfuture

    "Every time he speaks I expect him to take a banjo out and begin playing the theme from Deliverance."

    Banjos seem wholesome to me, and I love the theme to Deliverance. Cruz does not seem wholesome. He has an unfortunate greasy, slippery quality that seems to be becoming increasingly pronounced, or perhaps I've recently been seeing unusually unflattering video clips of him.

    , @Pat Gilligan
    @Cwhatfuture


    The women in my family find Cruz repulsive and reptilian. These are GOP voters. I see what they mean. He looks in-bred to me. Every time he speaks I expect him to take a banjo out and begin playing the theme from Deliverance.
     
    Yeah, and I've yet to see his purported brilliance. Rafael Cruz got into elites school through AA. And the bullshit about Dershowitz saying Cruz was the most brilliant student was expected. The most important thing to Dershowitz is Israel, so his comment says more about Cruz's Israel-first devotion than it does Cruz's brilliance.
    , @DWB
    @Cwhatfuture

    When I see Cruz, I think less of the toothless in-breds of "Deliverance," and more of the grotesque Oswald Cobblepot of "Batman Returns."

  110. Oh, and nary a mention in MSM of Cruz sex scandal. Incredible

    That’s because there is no sex scandal. There was an article in the National Enquirer that said unnamed sources said Cruz had affairs. Unless some actual evidence comes to light, that’s not a scandal.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    @tsotha

    Cruz hasn't sued has he, it is confirmed. Certain special interests have ensured there is wall to wall negative coverage of Trump and Cruz is now being built up. It is very obvious, they are seeking to block the nomination but also to damage Trump for the general.

    Replies: @Boethius

  111. iSteveFan says:
    @Twinkie
    @iSteveFan


    If you are against cultists, how do you feel about Ted’s number one supporter Glenn Beck? Shouldn’t Cruz at least publicly denounce such a loon?
     
    Yes, Glenn Beck is a loon. I am not one to demand that candidates denounce their loony supporters. I was not one of the nimbies who demanded that Trump disavow the KKK's (alleged) support.

    I don't think Glenn Beck is "Ted's number one supporter."

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Mr. Anon, @iSteveFan

    I was not one of the nimbies who demanded that Trump disavow the KKK’s (alleged) support.

    A big difference is that Trump didn’t know Duke,nor solicit his support. Beck is a friend of Cruz, and Cruz has appeared with this loon on numerous occasions. Beck spoke ahead of Cruz at a rally. So I don’t think you can compare Cruz/Beck with Trump/Duke.

  112. Donald Trump at least publicly during this election, needs to stop saying that woman Y and woman X is ugly. Is he trying to be POTUS or is he trying to become a PUA teacher? He is behaving more like Roosh V than a presidential candidate.

    When he debates Hildabeast I hope he doesnt say she is not qualified to be president because her face is ugly, like he did with Carly Fiorina. This is politics, women in Washington are not suppose to look like Adriana Lima and Phoebe Cates in 1982.

    Its like Donald Trump just found out now that most female politicians and wives of male politicians are ugly. Has he been living in a cave this whole time? Sometimes he comes off like an Onion parody.

    • Replies: @Difference Maker
    @Jefferson

    Ugly girls means the men are losers

    Replies: @Jefferson

  113. @Twinkie
    @iSteveFan


    What states that Obama won does Cruz have a realistic chance of winning? I don’t even think Cruz can take back Florida or Virginia. And with his support for TPP I don’t he could win Ohio or PA.
     
    You overestimate Hillary Clinton's likability. Cruz is smarter, better at debates, and is more disciplined than Clinton.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @iSteveFan, @5371, @Not sure

    If you think general election results depend on debates or “likability” (however you define it, it’s hardly a characteristic of Cruz), you don’t know the first thing about them. Cruz offers absolutely nothing to any voter not already part of the Republican base.

  114. Take this for what it’s worth given the source but I fear it’s an indicator that Trump really is all a one-man show: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/donald-trump-campaign-staff-disarray-221557

    Bad situation to get through an intra-party knife fight with arcane politicking and rules. I’ve supported him for being right on the biggest issue that matters—namely immigration and the national question—and for being hopefully a harbinger of the end of the Reagan personality cult cum scam operation that is the modern GOP. But the guy really seems like a sub-par administrator and a shallow thinker. Even worse, he doesn’t seem to be able to buy or retain people with the brains or skills he would need. Bad signs for a candidate and worse for a President.

  115. @Twinkie
    @Lagertha


    he is, unfortunately, not the real deal.
     
    You just figured that out? And you call the hardworking, earnest Midwesterners "rubes"?

    Some of you (including you, Lagertha) are hypocrites and sore losers. If Democrats had derided "flyover country" whites as you had, you'd be rolling your eyes and vehemently criticizing them for casting aspersions on honest, hardworking, family-oriented good white folks.

    It's not the fault of those good folks that Trump is a clown who can't parrot simple policy descriptions, make up false stories, and goes after his rival's wife, and generally reveals himself to be a petulant, juvenile, silver-spooned showman.

    I liked some of his campaign's policy proposals (I am an immigration restrictionist, after all) and I enjoyed him making both the Establishment-at-large and the GOP Establishment squirm, and seriously considered supporting him (right until the Iowa caucuses) over Cruz. But at some point the clown show must end, and a candidate for president who is serious should show some mastery of detail, organization (after all, he is supposed to be a great manager of people and organizations), and substance as well as, gee, I don't know, a sense of dignity.

    Instead, Trump keeps shooting himself on the foot, and makes me glad that I cast my lot with Cruz, as much as he gives off that used car salesman vibe (though a highly intelligent one).

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Lagertha, @Truth, @Bill

    Dude, you used to like Trump, then it was Teddy-Bare, now you’re flip-flopping like the 3rd black president!

  116. @Mr. Anon
    @Twinkie

    "You overestimate Hillary Clinton’s likability. Cruz is smarter, better at debates, and is more disciplined than Clinton."

    And Cruz is more likely to turn off Democrats and independents than is Trump.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    And Cruz is more likely to turn off Democrats and independents than is Trump.

    Maybe. But Trump is turning off married women in droves. And when the GOP loses married women, it does very poorly. Cruz doesn’t have to attract Democrats to win.

    • Replies: @TangoMan
    @Twinkie

    Trump is doing well with Republican married women, it's the broader category of women which pose a problem.

    The thing is the general election isn't today and Trump hasn't defined Hillary or Bernie yet. The guys does have some gifts, political knifefighting being prime among them.

    Hillary's negatives are known, but not immediately felt, they're kind of like a TV in the background, a slight distraction but a completely tolerable distraction. Trump, I believe, can make her negatives come across as a TV on full blast as you're trying to nap, an annoyance that is front and center and that you can't avoid.

    This election is not going to be one where voters are out to affirm their candidate, it's going to be one where voters are out to disconfirm the other candidate and I suspect much of the analysis on Trump vs. Clinton is missing this dynamic. There's a lot more for Trump to work with on Hillary than Hillary can work on with Trump.

    , @Jefferson
    @Twinkie

    "Maybe. But Trump is turning off married women in droves. And when the GOP loses married women, it does very poorly. Cruz doesn’t have to attract Democrats to win."

    If Donald Trump can't even win over a female Far Right Winger like Dana Loesch who owns as many if not more guns than Ted Nugent, how will he fare among more moderate middle of the road female voters?

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist, @Maj. Kong, @Mr. Anon

  117. @TangoMan
    @rod1963

    He reneged on his pledge to support the winner of the nomination. Why did he do that? What did he gain? Now it comes out that he may lose all of his SC delegates, where he won all of them, because those delegates are pledged to him on the condition that he honors the pledge to support the winning candidate.

    What did he gain by reneging and was it worth possibly losing all of those SC delegates? He probably didn't that he was risking the delegates, his reneging was probably impromptu, and what on earth did he think was the upside?

    The frustrating thing about this election is that it's a Trump Or Bust scenario, there's no one else for voters to support. Cruz, Kasich, Sanders & Hillary. This should serve as an explanation to anyone who wondered how Toronto could elect Rob Ford, a known quantity in that area - the other choices were worse.

    Replies: @Truth

    “This should serve as an explanation to anyone who wondered how Toronto could elect Rob Ford, a known quantity in that area – the other choices were worse.”

    D.C. with Marion Barry as well, or is that, somehow, different?

    • Replies: @TangoMan
    @Truth

    D.C. with Marion Barry as well, or is that, somehow, different?

    Ford is more recent, and so more fresh in the minds of the public, than Barry, but Barry could serve as a good example too. Honestly I don't know if the same dynamic did apply to Barry - awful opponents. I assume, but haven't verified, that black block voting was instrumental in electing Barry, so if this was the case then we have to define white opponents as being awful simply because they were white and running against Barry or it could be that the vote split and Barry was the beneficiary. If someone knows the details, please share, I'm not curious enough to go searching for the details.

  118. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Lagertha
    @Clifford Brown

    We all know about torpedoing - give me a break. After the summit in coastal Georgia, it was obvious that Trump would be taken apart.....without bodily harm, perhaps; albeit, it was a meeting to "take him out."

    As a Scandinavian, I am ridiculing the mid-western states like Wisconsin that have been falling apart financially for decades. That these stupid-ass states would allow themselves to become further impoverished by allowing "old style" Republican party candidates to govern them (fool them) is their loss and their sword to fall down on - I don't care - and not my problem. If people believe in stupidity, they are left alone to their devices.


    I would never even want kids going to college in these states that may have poor water quality on their campus, not to mention impoverished universities. The mid-west is becoming irrelevant, so, the people who love it and live there, better start thinking realistically how they will continue to exist there and retire. I don't think any of their kids have a future there unless they are happy with minimum wage service industry - that's their reality.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    “We all know about torpedoing – give me a break. After the summit in coastal Georgia, it was obvious that Trump would be taken apart…..without bodily harm, perhaps; albeit, it was a meeting to “take him out.””

    Agree, and it seems to be working. Part of the plan appears to be to support Cruz, who suddenly seems to be doing better. However, in the past couple of weeks I have unwittingly developed a visceral distaste for Cruz and a strong sense that he is a snake.

  119. @Cwhatfuture
    The women in my family find Cruz repulsive and reptilian. These are GOP voters. I see what they mean. He looks in-bred to me. Every time he speaks I expect him to take a banjo out and begin playing the theme from Deliverance.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anonymous, @Pat Gilligan, @DWB

    Cruz looks like a cross between Larry Linville and Murray Hamilton; it isn’t going to help him in the General. It’s shallow and unfair, to be sure. Looks shouldn’t matter, but they do, apparently, to a lot of people.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Mr. Anon

    "Cruz looks like a cross between Larry Linville and Murray Hamilton; it isn’t going to help him in the General. It’s shallow and unfair, to be sure. Looks shouldn’t matter, but they do, apparently, to a lot of people."

    George W. Bush was president for 8 years and his weird dumb facial expressions made him look like he had borderline down syndrome. He is no Matthew McConaughey in the looks department.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @Old fogey
    @Mr. Anon

    We humans respond automatically to people based on looks - part of our evolutionary baggage, I would assume. Don't knock your immediate reaction to people - it's part of human biology.

  120. @Mr. Anon
    @Tiny Duck

    "Trump just died tonight. This is the beginning of the end."

    Nonsense. He will probably win New York and California. They're aren't many Colorados and Wisconsins left for Cruz to win in.

    "The Cruz sex scandal is hogwash."

    I don't think it is. I might be wrong of course. But I am still persuaded that it might be true. The National Enquirer has a pretty good record when it comes to reporting on the infidelities of politicians. At the least, I trust the National Enquirer more than I trust Ted Cruz.

    Replies: @Discordiax, @Discordiax, @Andie Freud

    NAtional Enquirer’s reputation has been living off of the John Edwards story. They’ve changed ownership since then, and apparently changed their approach as print newspapers continue to circle the drain.

    Last year they ran a “story” on President Obama’s dozen mistressses and how Michelle knew the details and was livid and was going to use all this in the divorce as soon as they were out of the White House.

    So yeah.

    If you read the National Enquirer “story”, it’s the breathless revelation that there are private investigators investigating the rumors of Ted Cruz having affairs.

  121. @Twinkie
    @CommentGuy


    The media’s treatment of the Cruz sex scandal is almost impossible to fathom in this day and age and suggests something very sneaky is afoot.
     
    The media has already covered the so-called scandal. You just refuse to see the reality.
    Look, it's perfectly understandable for one to support Trump and oppose Cruz. But don't abandon your reasoning ability completely. The sex scandal is a non-starter because it is completely uncorroborated.

    Replies: @Truth, @CommentGuy

    “The sex scandal is a non-starter because it is completely uncorroborated.”

    It’s highly corroborated until the day he files a libel suit.

  122. @Twinkie
    @CommentGuy


    The media’s treatment of the Cruz sex scandal is almost impossible to fathom in this day and age and suggests something very sneaky is afoot.
     
    The media has already covered the so-called scandal. You just refuse to see the reality.
    Look, it's perfectly understandable for one to support Trump and oppose Cruz. But don't abandon your reasoning ability completely. The sex scandal is a non-starter because it is completely uncorroborated.

    Replies: @Truth, @CommentGuy

    3 out of 5. If you’re getting paid for your comments on this blog, please pass my rating along to your superior.

    Media has largely opted not to dig into the story, despite the fact that Ted Cruz completely tipped his hand with his behavior after the scandal broke. Time will be very revealing on this one.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @CommentGuy


    If you’re getting paid for your comments on this blog, please pass my rating along to your superior.
     
    1. I am financially secure and do not require payment for comments. 2. If you wish to talk to my superior directly, find your local Catholic Church. God is available 24/7.
  123. “Maybe. But Trump is turning off married women in droves.”

    Does “favorable/unfavorable” necessarily align with how someone votes? A lot of people were turned off by Romney and McCain, yet still voted for them. Hence the term “holding one’s nose and voting for X”.

    “And when the GOP loses married women, it does very poorly.”

    Does Cruz really do better among that demographic?

    “Cruz doesn’t have to attract Democrats to win.”

    He might if he and the party heirarchy alienate enough Republican-leaning voters.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Mr. Anon


    Does Cruz really do better among that demographic?
     
    Yes.

    He might if he and the party heirarchy alienate enough Republican-leaning voters.
     
    Trump alienates Republican-leaning voters more than Cruz does.

    Don't forget Trump has won a PLURALITY, not a majority of delegates so far.

    Replies: @Difference Maker

  124. @Truth
    @TangoMan

    "This should serve as an explanation to anyone who wondered how Toronto could elect Rob Ford, a known quantity in that area – the other choices were worse."

    D.C. with Marion Barry as well, or is that, somehow, different?

    Replies: @TangoMan

    D.C. with Marion Barry as well, or is that, somehow, different?

    Ford is more recent, and so more fresh in the minds of the public, than Barry, but Barry could serve as a good example too. Honestly I don’t know if the same dynamic did apply to Barry – awful opponents. I assume, but haven’t verified, that black block voting was instrumental in electing Barry, so if this was the case then we have to define white opponents as being awful simply because they were white and running against Barry or it could be that the vote split and Barry was the beneficiary. If someone knows the details, please share, I’m not curious enough to go searching for the details.

  125. @Lagertha
    @Twinkie

    You are so annoying because you read between the lines ALL the time! I have voted for Democrats for 2 decades, you maroon!

    I am saying, "flyover state" people are being mislead by the oleaginous Cruz (and the creepy, creepy Walker) who is a frightening, evil clown with a horrible voice, no charisma, and no chance of EVER, simply, EVER becoming a president of anything except the PTO of his daughters' school.

    And, saying you had a Jones for Palin just grossed-me-out big, time. Palin was looney-tunes, bimbo of all bimbos, low hanging fruit of the biggest fruits in a long time; a financially mercenary creep with an embarrassing family full of drunks and losers. McCain lost BIG-Time because everyone hated and feared her. Good night, all.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    And, saying you had a Jones for Palin just grossed-me-out big, time. Palin was looney-tunes, bimbo of all bimbos, low hanging fruit of the biggest fruits in a long time

    You appear to be a wannabe elitist.

    I am an Ivy Leaguer married to another Ivy Leaguer, both with doctorates. I spilled my blood for this country overseas. And my wife and I built a successful biomedical company (which we sold). We never ever have to work again nor will any of our descendants. My wife and I have all the credentials to be a part of the real elites if that were what we desired.

    But I have a far greater regard than you do for a person, a product of those “third rate” schools you purport to valorize, who built herself up through grit and went on take on something as corrupt and formidable as the Alaska (GOP) Establishment. Yes, Palin went wrong after being nominated for the VP slot. But she was a great promising political talent. There is nothing gross about recognizing what could have been.

    • Agree: TangoMan
    • Replies: @TangoMan
    @Twinkie

    I've always intended to run to ground the actual statistics on how rare Palin's rise was but I never got around to it.

    As a minor player in Republican politics she took on the Party Chair and nailed him for corruption. She resigned on principle.

    Now here's where we can compare to other gubernatorial races. She ran in the primary against a sitting Governor. Beat him. She went into the general and ran against a respected ex-Governor and beat him.

    How often does a winning Gubernatorial candidate manage to claim the prize after taking away her party's nomination from a sitting Governor? I suspect that this is pretty rare. Anyone know just how rare (or common?)

    Palin rose on her own merits, unlike most female politicians.

    Replies: @Truth, @Bill jones

    , @Truth
    @Twinkie

    "My wife and I have all the credentials to be a part of the real elites if that were what we desired."

    Only bloodlines get you into "the real elites", Ace; therefore they would, if valid, probably have to be from your wife's family. Absent that, the most you can hope for is to be an extremely well-paid freelancer, and that may entail doing some things that may not jibe with your "conservative" morals.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/21340764/ns/politics/t/lynne-cheney-vp-obama-are-eighth-cousins/

    Replies: @Dirk Dagger, @Bill

  126. @Mr. Anon
    @Tiny Duck

    "Trump just died tonight. This is the beginning of the end."

    Nonsense. He will probably win New York and California. They're aren't many Colorados and Wisconsins left for Cruz to win in.

    "The Cruz sex scandal is hogwash."

    I don't think it is. I might be wrong of course. But I am still persuaded that it might be true. The National Enquirer has a pretty good record when it comes to reporting on the infidelities of politicians. At the least, I trust the National Enquirer more than I trust Ted Cruz.

    Replies: @Discordiax, @Discordiax, @Andie Freud

    Something a lot of commenters don’t seem to understand. Wisconsin has a functioning conservative Republican party.

    After Walker was elected in 2010, he passed anti-union legislation. That brought the drum-circle Madison Left out in force, occupying the state capitol and launching a recall campaign. Walker and the Wisconsin GOP stood their ground and won. Then Walker won reelection.

    So in Wisconsin, a Trump supporter saying “Screw the promise-everything, do-nothing GOP. What have they ever done when they were in office” sounds like he’s from another planet.

    Just like Mormon Utah is immune to Trump’s appeal because Leave It To Beaver America is still alive and well there, Walker Country is poor soil for a movement to punish the feckless spineless GOP leadership.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Discordiax

    "Something a lot of commenters don’t seem to understand. Wisconsin has a functioning conservative Republican party."

    That's a good point, and I can understand that sentiment. But, are Wisconsin Republicans really happy with the way that Paul Ryan has turned out?

    , @5371
    @Discordiax

    But Trump won rural and small-town Wisconsin, by a comfortable margin.

  127. @Clifford Brown
    @Lagertha


    There was something dirty goin’ on about this primary in Wisconsin….something is fishy (yeah, I know, there was soooo much dirty money to torpedo Trump).
     
    What exactly is the evidence that something dirty is going on? Trump lost Iowa, Minnesota and now Wisconsin. The gruff, brash, loud mouth New Yorker, Donald Trump, unsurprisingly underperforms in Midwestern Nice non-diverse areas. Trump's base is Scots-Irish areas from the Deep South up the Appalachian spine into the Northeast. Trump's appeal is to those who have been enriched by diversity.

    Never underestimate the pull of Christian evangelicals and the power of social conformity in that community.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Lagertha, @Jefferson

    “Trump’s base is Scots-Irish areas from the Deep South up the Appalachian spine into the Northeast. Trump’s appeal is to those who have been enriched by diversity.”

    Appalachia is racially diverse? As in Chicago level diverse?

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Jefferson

    The South, Mid-Atlantic and Northeast is all about whites fleeing to majority-white school districts. That is all you need to understand to make money in real estate on the Eastern seaboard.

    Replies: @Jefferson

  128. @CommentGuy
    @Twinkie

    3 out of 5. If you're getting paid for your comments on this blog, please pass my rating along to your superior.

    Media has largely opted not to dig into the story, despite the fact that Ted Cruz completely tipped his hand with his behavior after the scandal broke. Time will be very revealing on this one.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    If you’re getting paid for your comments on this blog, please pass my rating along to your superior.

    1. I am financially secure and do not require payment for comments. 2. If you wish to talk to my superior directly, find your local Catholic Church. God is available 24/7.

  129. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Cwhatfuture
    The women in my family find Cruz repulsive and reptilian. These are GOP voters. I see what they mean. He looks in-bred to me. Every time he speaks I expect him to take a banjo out and begin playing the theme from Deliverance.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anonymous, @Pat Gilligan, @DWB

    “Every time he speaks I expect him to take a banjo out and begin playing the theme from Deliverance.”

    Banjos seem wholesome to me, and I love the theme to Deliverance. Cruz does not seem wholesome. He has an unfortunate greasy, slippery quality that seems to be becoming increasingly pronounced, or perhaps I’ve recently been seeing unusually unflattering video clips of him.

  130. I think it’s pretty obvious that, because Cruz is running against The Demon Trump, he is profiting from a premature Strange New Respect. Should he ever become the favorite, the powers-that-be will savage him every bit as much as Trump, and, I expect, he will crash and burn twice as fast.

    • Agree: res
    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @candid_observer

    I agree. In fact one could reasonably argue that the ONLY reason Cruz is still in the race is because of Trump. Cruz would have been buried long ago by Jeb and his millions in negative ads. But Trump totally took over the campaign and ran everyone else off. Cruz has benefited from Trump taking almost all of the negativity from the media and the opponents. Even Bernie and Hillary are attacking Trump and ignoring Cruz.

    Just wait until Trump is gone. Cruz will be destroyed. Outside of the loons of the GOP, he will be a pariah.

  131. @Mr. Anon
    "Maybe. But Trump is turning off married women in droves."

    Does "favorable/unfavorable" necessarily align with how someone votes? A lot of people were turned off by Romney and McCain, yet still voted for them. Hence the term "holding one's nose and voting for X".

    "And when the GOP loses married women, it does very poorly."

    Does Cruz really do better among that demographic?

    "Cruz doesn’t have to attract Democrats to win."

    He might if he and the party heirarchy alienate enough Republican-leaning voters.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Does Cruz really do better among that demographic?

    Yes.

    He might if he and the party heirarchy alienate enough Republican-leaning voters.

    Trump alienates Republican-leaning voters more than Cruz does.

    Don’t forget Trump has won a PLURALITY, not a majority of delegates so far.

    • Replies: @Difference Maker
    @Twinkie

    Republican? Like yourself? Who voted for the lost-on-all fronts status quo Republican establishment?

    Who supported the establishment against Trump early on. I remember your angst. Ted would actually be for more immigration if it weren't for Trump. Even now you support the untrustworthy Cruz.

  132. @Twinkie
    @Mr. Anon


    And Cruz is more likely to turn off Democrats and independents than is Trump.
     
    Maybe. But Trump is turning off married women in droves. And when the GOP loses married women, it does very poorly. Cruz doesn't have to attract Democrats to win.

    Replies: @TangoMan, @Jefferson

    Trump is doing well with Republican married women, it’s the broader category of women which pose a problem.

    The thing is the general election isn’t today and Trump hasn’t defined Hillary or Bernie yet. The guys does have some gifts, political knifefighting being prime among them.

    Hillary’s negatives are known, but not immediately felt, they’re kind of like a TV in the background, a slight distraction but a completely tolerable distraction. Trump, I believe, can make her negatives come across as a TV on full blast as you’re trying to nap, an annoyance that is front and center and that you can’t avoid.

    This election is not going to be one where voters are out to affirm their candidate, it’s going to be one where voters are out to disconfirm the other candidate and I suspect much of the analysis on Trump vs. Clinton is missing this dynamic. There’s a lot more for Trump to work with on Hillary than Hillary can work on with Trump.

  133. @Mr. Anon
    @Cwhatfuture

    Cruz looks like a cross between Larry Linville and Murray Hamilton; it isn't going to help him in the General. It's shallow and unfair, to be sure. Looks shouldn't matter, but they do, apparently, to a lot of people.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Old fogey

    “Cruz looks like a cross between Larry Linville and Murray Hamilton; it isn’t going to help him in the General. It’s shallow and unfair, to be sure. Looks shouldn’t matter, but they do, apparently, to a lot of people.”

    George W. Bush was president for 8 years and his weird dumb facial expressions made him look like he had borderline down syndrome. He is no Matthew McConaughey in the looks department.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Jefferson

    "George W. Bush was president for 8 years and his weird dumb facial expressions made him look like he had borderline down syndrome."

    I think people tolerate stupid-looking better than shifty-looking.

  134. I’ve been pleasantly surprised by the primaries so far, but Trump is a few years too early and a few years too old. I’d like to see him win the nomination even if he goes on to lose the general, but maybe the phenomenon is good enough.

    Our elites have been engineering their “orange revolutions,” their “springs” and their invasions and all that crap for a generation. Someday soon it will turn around on them. Trump’s success to this point will only embolden people. He’s broken the paradigm. Even if the wealthy republicans can put him in his place, there’s a real wellspring of dissent bubbling up that won’t be easily contained.

    • Replies: @TangoMan
    @Bill P

    Trump’s success to this point will only embolden people. He’s broken the paradigm.

    It's Trump or bust. Sure, Trump broke the paradigm but every politician needs to pass by the gatekeepers. Trump got billions in free advertising. Who else is positioned to match that feat? Every other politician needs patrons and if the patrons don't want "Trumpism" then any politician selling Trumpism is not going to advance very far.

    You want some evidence of how that works? Look to recent history. Trump is pulling in disaffected voters. Why were these voters sitting out past elections? Because no one spoke to their concerns. What was the past can also become the future.

    Trump alone is positioned to change the direction that the Republican ship is sailing but he needs to be in the wheelhouse to do that, to institutionalize a new party vision. If he goes down, his message goes down with him. Those in charge can simply freeze out similar messengers by denying them money.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Bill P

  135. @Twinkie
    @Lagertha


    And, saying you had a Jones for Palin just grossed-me-out big, time. Palin was looney-tunes, bimbo of all bimbos, low hanging fruit of the biggest fruits in a long time
     
    You appear to be a wannabe elitist.

    I am an Ivy Leaguer married to another Ivy Leaguer, both with doctorates. I spilled my blood for this country overseas. And my wife and I built a successful biomedical company (which we sold). We never ever have to work again nor will any of our descendants. My wife and I have all the credentials to be a part of the real elites if that were what we desired.

    But I have a far greater regard than you do for a person, a product of those "third rate" schools you purport to valorize, who built herself up through grit and went on take on something as corrupt and formidable as the Alaska (GOP) Establishment. Yes, Palin went wrong after being nominated for the VP slot. But she was a great promising political talent. There is nothing gross about recognizing what could have been.

    Replies: @TangoMan, @Truth

    I’ve always intended to run to ground the actual statistics on how rare Palin’s rise was but I never got around to it.

    As a minor player in Republican politics she took on the Party Chair and nailed him for corruption. She resigned on principle.

    Now here’s where we can compare to other gubernatorial races. She ran in the primary against a sitting Governor. Beat him. She went into the general and ran against a respected ex-Governor and beat him.

    How often does a winning Gubernatorial candidate manage to claim the prize after taking away her party’s nomination from a sitting Governor? I suspect that this is pretty rare. Anyone know just how rare (or common?)

    Palin rose on her own merits, unlike most female politicians.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @TangoMan

    I"’ve always intended to run to ground the actual statistics on how rare Palin’s rise was but I never got around to it."

    There's nothing truly rare there, she is a simpleton who was chosen to ensure that John McCain lose an election, without making it too obvious, and she did an excellent job.

    Replies: @Anonym

    , @Bill jones
    @TangoMan

    And the flag on her desk was an Israeli one

    Replies: @TangoMan

  136. @Twinkie
    @Lagertha


    And, saying you had a Jones for Palin just grossed-me-out big, time. Palin was looney-tunes, bimbo of all bimbos, low hanging fruit of the biggest fruits in a long time
     
    You appear to be a wannabe elitist.

    I am an Ivy Leaguer married to another Ivy Leaguer, both with doctorates. I spilled my blood for this country overseas. And my wife and I built a successful biomedical company (which we sold). We never ever have to work again nor will any of our descendants. My wife and I have all the credentials to be a part of the real elites if that were what we desired.

    But I have a far greater regard than you do for a person, a product of those "third rate" schools you purport to valorize, who built herself up through grit and went on take on something as corrupt and formidable as the Alaska (GOP) Establishment. Yes, Palin went wrong after being nominated for the VP slot. But she was a great promising political talent. There is nothing gross about recognizing what could have been.

    Replies: @TangoMan, @Truth

    “My wife and I have all the credentials to be a part of the real elites if that were what we desired.”

    Only bloodlines get you into “the real elites”, Ace; therefore they would, if valid, probably have to be from your wife’s family. Absent that, the most you can hope for is to be an extremely well-paid freelancer, and that may entail doing some things that may not jibe with your “conservative” morals.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/21340764/ns/politics/t/lynne-cheney-vp-obama-are-eighth-cousins/

    • Replies: @Dirk Dagger
    @Truth

    That's assuming his stories are true or mostly true. I'm assuming he's a fantasist. This is the internet.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Truth, @Twinkie

    , @Bill
    @Truth


    Only bloodlines get you into “the real elites”,
     
    So, Soros is not a member?

    Replies: @Truth

  137. “Trump alienates Republican-leaning voters more than Cruz does.”

    No, we don’t know that. They may prefer someone else, but that doesn’t mean they dislike him, it certainly doesn’t mean they dislike him as much as the party establishment does, or that they wouldn’t vote for Trump over Hillary Clinton.

    “Maybe. But Trump is turning off married women in droves.”

    And, of course, what women say is always an unerring guide to how they will act. That’s why beautiful women who say that a sense of humor is what they look for in a man always have dorky looking, but funny, boyfriends.

  138. @Buzz Mohawk
    This is the Trump campaign statement:

    "Donald J. Trump withstood the onslaught of the establishment yet again. Lyin’ Ted Cruz had the Governor of Wisconsin, many conservative talk radio show hosts, and the entire party apparatus behind him. Not only was he propelled by the anti-Trump Super PAC’s spending countless millions of dollars on false advertising against Mr. Trump, but he was coordinating `with his own Super PAC’s (which is illegal) who totally control him. Ted Cruz is worse than a puppet— he is a Trojan horse, being used by the party bosses attempting to steal the nomination from Mr. Trump. We have total confidence that Mr. Trump will go on to win in New York, where he holds a substantial lead in all the polls, and beyond. Mr. Trump is the only candidate who can secure the delegates needed to win the Republican nomination and ultimately defeat Hillary Clinton, or whomever is the Democratic nominee, in order to Make America Great Again."

    And women should be punished.

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist

    “Donald J. Trump withstood the onslaught of the establishment yet again. Lyin’ Ted Cruz had the Governor of Wisconsin, many conservative talk radio show hosts, and the entire party apparatus behind him.

    Gov Walker survived two recall elections with the strong support of local talk radio. Wisconsin talk radio is very loyal to Walker and Walker is a big Cruz backer.

    Also IHeartMedia, the former Clear Channel, and their phony “Controlled Opposition” rising media star, the “Constitutionalist” Mark Levin are big backers of Ted Cruz apparently. Also Glenn Beck has a following in WI. and Beck is apesh*t for Cruz.

    6 Talk Radio Hosts Stopping Trump in Wisconsin
    http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/talk-radio-hosts-stop-trump/2016/04/05/id/722278/

    Last Wisconsin like Iowa is a state is where Cruz’s “Cheap Grace” swarmy pandering (as Derbyshire likes to say) to the Religious Right on Abortion still carries weight with voters.

    On the positive side Wisconsin has lots anti-Globalist anti-establishment BernieBros who in the general election will not be voting for the Hildebeast. Perhaps instead of staying home they may come out and vote for Trump. If Trump gets the nomination he may still carry Wisconsin in the general.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    What are the chances of Cruz winning Wisconsin in November if he is the nominee?

  139. @TangoMan
    @Twinkie

    I've always intended to run to ground the actual statistics on how rare Palin's rise was but I never got around to it.

    As a minor player in Republican politics she took on the Party Chair and nailed him for corruption. She resigned on principle.

    Now here's where we can compare to other gubernatorial races. She ran in the primary against a sitting Governor. Beat him. She went into the general and ran against a respected ex-Governor and beat him.

    How often does a winning Gubernatorial candidate manage to claim the prize after taking away her party's nomination from a sitting Governor? I suspect that this is pretty rare. Anyone know just how rare (or common?)

    Palin rose on her own merits, unlike most female politicians.

    Replies: @Truth, @Bill jones

    I”’ve always intended to run to ground the actual statistics on how rare Palin’s rise was but I never got around to it.”

    There’s nothing truly rare there, she is a simpleton who was chosen to ensure that John McCain lose an election, without making it too obvious, and she did an excellent job.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @Truth

    McCain could have run with the reanimated body of Reagan as VP and still lost. But I think you may be more right than wrong.

    Replies: @Truth

  140. @Twinkie
    @Mr. Anon


    And Cruz is more likely to turn off Democrats and independents than is Trump.
     
    Maybe. But Trump is turning off married women in droves. And when the GOP loses married women, it does very poorly. Cruz doesn't have to attract Democrats to win.

    Replies: @TangoMan, @Jefferson

    “Maybe. But Trump is turning off married women in droves. And when the GOP loses married women, it does very poorly. Cruz doesn’t have to attract Democrats to win.”

    If Donald Trump can’t even win over a female Far Right Winger like Dana Loesch who owns as many if not more guns than Ted Nugent, how will he fare among more moderate middle of the road female voters?

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    @Jefferson


    Far Right Winger like Dana Loesch
     
    The Southern Baptist Dana Loesch rode to prominence as a staunch NeoCon who exploited the "Tea Party" movement and later formed an alliance with her employer Glenn Beck, her opposition to Trump is purely careerist.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @Maj. Kong
    @Jefferson

    Loesch is part of Conservatism Inc, and has never generated a leftist anathema like Ann Coulter.

    For what it is worth, I would credit her success to her looks, just like most of the product on Fox News.

    Married women having angst over Trump is a shit test for their husbands.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Jefferson

    "If Donald Trump can’t even win over a female Far Right Winger like Dana Loesch who owns as many if not more guns than Ted Nugent, how will he fare among more moderate middle of the road female voters?"

    Dana Loesch works for Glenn Beck. She is not the only conservative gun-friendly woman in America

  141. iSteveFan says:
    @candid_observer
    I think it's pretty obvious that, because Cruz is running against The Demon Trump, he is profiting from a premature Strange New Respect. Should he ever become the favorite, the powers-that-be will savage him every bit as much as Trump, and, I expect, he will crash and burn twice as fast.

    Replies: @iSteveFan

    I agree. In fact one could reasonably argue that the ONLY reason Cruz is still in the race is because of Trump. Cruz would have been buried long ago by Jeb and his millions in negative ads. But Trump totally took over the campaign and ran everyone else off. Cruz has benefited from Trump taking almost all of the negativity from the media and the opponents. Even Bernie and Hillary are attacking Trump and ignoring Cruz.

    Just wait until Trump is gone. Cruz will be destroyed. Outside of the loons of the GOP, he will be a pariah.

  142. @anonymous-antimarxist
    @Buzz Mohawk


    “Donald J. Trump withstood the onslaught of the establishment yet again. Lyin’ Ted Cruz had the Governor of Wisconsin, many conservative talk radio show hosts, and the entire party apparatus behind him.
     
    Gov Walker survived two recall elections with the strong support of local talk radio. Wisconsin talk radio is very loyal to Walker and Walker is a big Cruz backer.

    Also IHeartMedia, the former Clear Channel, and their phony "Controlled Opposition" rising media star, the "Constitutionalist" Mark Levin are big backers of Ted Cruz apparently. Also Glenn Beck has a following in WI. and Beck is apesh*t for Cruz.


    6 Talk Radio Hosts Stopping Trump in Wisconsin
    http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/talk-radio-hosts-stop-trump/2016/04/05/id/722278/

    Last Wisconsin like Iowa is a state is where Cruz's "Cheap Grace" swarmy pandering (as Derbyshire likes to say) to the Religious Right on Abortion still carries weight with voters.

    On the positive side Wisconsin has lots anti-Globalist anti-establishment BernieBros who in the general election will not be voting for the Hildebeast. Perhaps instead of staying home they may come out and vote for Trump. If Trump gets the nomination he may still carry Wisconsin in the general.

    Replies: @iSteveFan

    What are the chances of Cruz winning Wisconsin in November if he is the nominee?

  143. @Jefferson
    @Mr. Anon

    "Cruz looks like a cross between Larry Linville and Murray Hamilton; it isn’t going to help him in the General. It’s shallow and unfair, to be sure. Looks shouldn’t matter, but they do, apparently, to a lot of people."

    George W. Bush was president for 8 years and his weird dumb facial expressions made him look like he had borderline down syndrome. He is no Matthew McConaughey in the looks department.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    “George W. Bush was president for 8 years and his weird dumb facial expressions made him look like he had borderline down syndrome.”

    I think people tolerate stupid-looking better than shifty-looking.

  144. @Bill P
    I've been pleasantly surprised by the primaries so far, but Trump is a few years too early and a few years too old. I'd like to see him win the nomination even if he goes on to lose the general, but maybe the phenomenon is good enough.

    Our elites have been engineering their "orange revolutions," their "springs" and their invasions and all that crap for a generation. Someday soon it will turn around on them. Trump's success to this point will only embolden people. He's broken the paradigm. Even if the wealthy republicans can put him in his place, there's a real wellspring of dissent bubbling up that won't be easily contained.

    Replies: @TangoMan

    Trump’s success to this point will only embolden people. He’s broken the paradigm.

    It’s Trump or bust. Sure, Trump broke the paradigm but every politician needs to pass by the gatekeepers. Trump got billions in free advertising. Who else is positioned to match that feat? Every other politician needs patrons and if the patrons don’t want “Trumpism” then any politician selling Trumpism is not going to advance very far.

    You want some evidence of how that works? Look to recent history. Trump is pulling in disaffected voters. Why were these voters sitting out past elections? Because no one spoke to their concerns. What was the past can also become the future.

    Trump alone is positioned to change the direction that the Republican ship is sailing but he needs to be in the wheelhouse to do that, to institutionalize a new party vision. If he goes down, his message goes down with him. Those in charge can simply freeze out similar messengers by denying them money.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @TangoMan

    Tangoman, keep your head up. Trump acknowledged he's been winging it too much. He knows he screwed the pooch the last two weeks. But next up is NY which should be a resounding victory. Then he gets a string of states he should carry. He still is in decent shape if he tightens his game. It is good that NY is coming up. i wish it were in one week instead of two. But nonetheless it will give him a chance to get back in the victory column and hopefully carry that momentum to PA, MD, etc.

    Actually this is a bad thing for Cruz. After his win tonight, he would probably like a crack at a state in which he could win. But NY is next in line and he can't win that. So instead of carrying momentum, he is immediately going to lose the next contest.

    , @Bill P
    @TangoMan


    Trump alone is positioned to change the direction that the Republican ship is sailing but he needs to be in the wheelhouse to do that, to institutionalize a new party vision. If he goes down, his message goes down with him. Those in charge can simply freeze out similar messengers by denying them money.
     
    If the Republican Party kills Trumpism, it will kill itself. They'll lose their money when the Democrats seize one-party power and tax them into oblivion, which they will do. Oh, do you think the dems will cut them a break for being "moral statesmen" who defied the will of their voters? Yeah, right.

    Republicans are throwing away the constituency that has made them relevant over the past generation. There will be consequences.

    As for Trump's diehard supporters, they represent a demographic with a lot more power than people like to admit. In fact, lots of people are terrified that they might find out that they have any power at all, and this has a lot to do with the attacks on Trump -- they're trying to stuff it before anything comes of it. But I think it's a little too late to put that genie back in the lamp.

    Establishment Republicans might want to think about all converting to Mormonism and relocating to Salt Lake City. Utah will be about the only place left in the US where they constitute even a plurality. Maybe Ross Douthat can be the local Catholic apologist, trying his darndest to keep the Mexicans from converting away from Papism in the New World's Zion.

    Replies: @AmericanaCON, @Felix.

  145. @Discordiax
    @Mr. Anon

    Something a lot of commenters don't seem to understand. Wisconsin has a functioning conservative Republican party.

    After Walker was elected in 2010, he passed anti-union legislation. That brought the drum-circle Madison Left out in force, occupying the state capitol and launching a recall campaign. Walker and the Wisconsin GOP stood their ground and won. Then Walker won reelection.

    So in Wisconsin, a Trump supporter saying "Screw the promise-everything, do-nothing GOP. What have they ever done when they were in office" sounds like he's from another planet.

    Just like Mormon Utah is immune to Trump's appeal because Leave It To Beaver America is still alive and well there, Walker Country is poor soil for a movement to punish the feckless spineless GOP leadership.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @5371

    “Something a lot of commenters don’t seem to understand. Wisconsin has a functioning conservative Republican party.”

    That’s a good point, and I can understand that sentiment. But, are Wisconsin Republicans really happy with the way that Paul Ryan has turned out?

  146. iSteveFan says:
    @TangoMan
    @Bill P

    Trump’s success to this point will only embolden people. He’s broken the paradigm.

    It's Trump or bust. Sure, Trump broke the paradigm but every politician needs to pass by the gatekeepers. Trump got billions in free advertising. Who else is positioned to match that feat? Every other politician needs patrons and if the patrons don't want "Trumpism" then any politician selling Trumpism is not going to advance very far.

    You want some evidence of how that works? Look to recent history. Trump is pulling in disaffected voters. Why were these voters sitting out past elections? Because no one spoke to their concerns. What was the past can also become the future.

    Trump alone is positioned to change the direction that the Republican ship is sailing but he needs to be in the wheelhouse to do that, to institutionalize a new party vision. If he goes down, his message goes down with him. Those in charge can simply freeze out similar messengers by denying them money.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Bill P

    Tangoman, keep your head up. Trump acknowledged he’s been winging it too much. He knows he screwed the pooch the last two weeks. But next up is NY which should be a resounding victory. Then he gets a string of states he should carry. He still is in decent shape if he tightens his game. It is good that NY is coming up. i wish it were in one week instead of two. But nonetheless it will give him a chance to get back in the victory column and hopefully carry that momentum to PA, MD, etc.

    Actually this is a bad thing for Cruz. After his win tonight, he would probably like a crack at a state in which he could win. But NY is next in line and he can’t win that. So instead of carrying momentum, he is immediately going to lose the next contest.

  147. Trump’s 35 percent in Wisconsin is a big improvement over his 21 percent in Minnesota.

  148. @International Jew
    @iSteveFan

    Maybe better we be disappointed now, than have President Trump disappoint us by forgetting his whole immigration platform. The guy is a flake. I'm sorry to say that, I really wish he wasn't.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @TangoMan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Yeah, @Boethius

    There’s truth to what you say my friend.

  149. @TangoMan
    @iSteveFan

    Everyone else has a personality like drying paint, so they're not going to get coverage. Trump is newsworthy in his own right and so gets coverage one way or the other, the problem is that Trump is shooting himself in the foot so damn often that the coverage he was going to get anyway gets diverted onto his cock-ups.

    It's these screw-ups which are playing a large part in alienating people who could/should vote for him. There are, essentially, two groups of opponents, those who disagree with what he's saying and those who think he's unfit for office. He could address the concerns of the latter group by showing that he can, indeed, master the nuance of policy. I was cutting him a lot of slack, I figured that he was bombastic in the beginning in order to clear the field, that this way buying him time to go deep on policy, to build up the campaign staff, and that we'd see a more in-depth Trump, but my patience is running thin.

    People ragged on Palin but I defended her because I had actually seen her demonstrate mastery on Alaska's energy politics, so I knew she could go deep on policy and perform her job and once schooled on other topics could do the same. I'm not seeing even unschooled Palin, winging it, kind of policy mastery from Trump. In the tread on Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos someone posted a video of her giving a presentation and the buzzwords were flying and that's what I'm seeing from Trump. I'd bet that there are hundreds of us in the Steve-o-sphere who could take his issues and clean the clocks of opponents who challenged his positions but Trump isn't doing that.

    Trump is going to get covered because he has a big personality and he's engaging. He'd be doing us all a favor if that coverage was focused on substance rather than tweeting pictures of Cruz's wife or alienating the pro-life crowd. Talk more about disbanding NATO. Show us that there is some damn thought behind the idea. Let's talk about what a post-NATO world would look like. That'll get lots of coverage. Talk about SCOTUS precedent for the Executive banning people from entering/immigrating to the US due to ideological positions and then make the case that Islam, religion of any kind, is simply a subset of a larger category we call ideology. Explain why the freedoms we extend to religion within the US do not have to be extended to people outside of our borders. I guarantee you that Trump talking about any of that is going to stir up controversy and will get lots of coverage but it will recast him to be a more substantive man instead of a boor.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Twinkie, @SteveO, @The most deplorable one

    Well said, TangoMan. The really depressing thing is the wasted opportunity. Trump is right on many issues, and he had the prominence to draw attention to them from the beginning. Watching that opportunity being squandered is just painful. I keep waiting for his Big Speech – the one where he carefully articulates his policies and how he’ll get them accomplished and finally, finally sounds like a statesman, but the moment for that is rapidly passing.

    Furthermore, Trump’s failure to rise to the occasion generates ever more concern about his potential performance as President. It’s not enough to have some good ideas; you have to have the right temperament to lead the country responsibly. Trump is not only not doing that; he’s doing the opposite.

  150. @TangoMan
    @International Jew

    Trump is his own worst enemy but I'm not seeing any other option for change.

    The Republicans are intent on Hispanic outreach but how, exactly, do they achieve this without going the racial bribes route? If Trump loses the powers that be will treat that as a voter repudiation of his agenda and they'll feel empowered to go full steam ahead with amnesty and other racial bribes which they think will work to bring in Hispanics.

    Also repudiated is white identity as a basis for a political movement. What follows is the racial bribes business comes at the expense of whites, in a who, whom contest.

    Everyday I wish there was a candidate other than Trump who was positioned with his popularity, independence and positions, but there isn't and because Trump's candidacy is such a black swan event, I can't see a path forward for a more typical politician who will have to depend on funding in order to get air time, so institutional interests are always going to be favored.

    It's Trump or bust. There is no upside to any other candidate and society is going to have to be more destabilized before institutional interests can be brought around to some of Trump's policies. I saw a report today that 70% of voters supported the Muslim ban. Trump is the only one who is independent enough to actually dare put something like that in place.

    Trump may well flake if he gets into office, but that's a better outcome than not getting into office, for his defeat repudiates his policies, while his reneging on the policies doesn't undermine their validity and appeal, the reneging simply becomes a reflection of Trump, the man, not the policy agenda he ran on.

    Replies: @Yeah, @asks for it, @AndrewR

    That last paragraph is well said.

  151. In the event that Cruz wins the nomination, the mainstream media will pummel him as a religious extremist who is famous for shutting down the government. The electoral map is also just not favorable to him and we do not have the demographics of 1980 anymore.

    And, frankly, with how much Trump has been destroyed lately, I can’t see him winning in the general, either.

    Get ready for Hilary guys.

  152. @Discordiax
    @Mr. Anon

    Something a lot of commenters don't seem to understand. Wisconsin has a functioning conservative Republican party.

    After Walker was elected in 2010, he passed anti-union legislation. That brought the drum-circle Madison Left out in force, occupying the state capitol and launching a recall campaign. Walker and the Wisconsin GOP stood their ground and won. Then Walker won reelection.

    So in Wisconsin, a Trump supporter saying "Screw the promise-everything, do-nothing GOP. What have they ever done when they were in office" sounds like he's from another planet.

    Just like Mormon Utah is immune to Trump's appeal because Leave It To Beaver America is still alive and well there, Walker Country is poor soil for a movement to punish the feckless spineless GOP leadership.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @5371

    But Trump won rural and small-town Wisconsin, by a comfortable margin.

  153. You would think a multi-billionaire would be able to afford to hire the best political consultants. Where does Donald Trump get his political consultants from, Mad Magazine?

  154. @CommentGuy
    @Bert

    The "Heidi Cruz debacle" had nothing to do with Trump losing Wisconsin, and that kind of comment is so off as to be suspicious. The most material contributor to the WI loss, other than broad cultural factors, was the media almost completely punting on the opportunity to rake Ted Cruz, a hypocritical bible-thumping serial cheater, over the coals. The media's treatment of the Cruz sex scandal is almost impossible to fathom in this day and age and suggests something very sneaky is afoot.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Bert

    I swear hardcore Trump supporters are getting almost as bad as Ron Paul fanatics. Poor old John Nolte found that out recently.

  155. @Lagertha
    @iSteveFan

    Totally agree with you. However, now Trump needs to be more measured in his responses to ALL the "take downs." Even my young adult sons (impulsiveness) know when they are being punked. He should not have walked into the quicksand of "abortion," in fact, stay away from policies that no one gives a sh*t about right now, during the election year.

    Wisconsin is in really, really bad shape...Milwaukee is close to Detroit as far as its financial bad health, so, the disparaging remarks of "flyover states," is pretty apt for Wisconsin. Walker has devastated Wisconsin's future with his very stupid (he's a world-class, embarrassing, dummy) policies. And, because Wisconsin still has so many reticent, conformist Lutherans, well...they just don't "get it" because of their LACK of anger even when they are clearly being screwed. Makes me sick to see such stupid people ruin their children's and grandchildren's lives ( I am Scandinavian so I can blast my own kind) and vote for people who don't give a rat's ass about them or the USA. It's all about money. It is ALWAYS all about money.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Yeah

    Nice rant.

  156. @Jefferson
    @Twinkie

    "Maybe. But Trump is turning off married women in droves. And when the GOP loses married women, it does very poorly. Cruz doesn’t have to attract Democrats to win."

    If Donald Trump can't even win over a female Far Right Winger like Dana Loesch who owns as many if not more guns than Ted Nugent, how will he fare among more moderate middle of the road female voters?

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist, @Maj. Kong, @Mr. Anon

    Far Right Winger like Dana Loesch

    The Southern Baptist Dana Loesch rode to prominence as a staunch NeoCon who exploited the “Tea Party” movement and later formed an alliance with her employer Glenn Beck, her opposition to Trump is purely careerist.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    "The Southern Baptist Dana Loesch rode to prominence as a staunch NeoCon who exploited the “Tea Party” movement and later formed an alliance with her employer Glenn Beck, her opposition to Trump is purely careerist."

    Her opposition to Donald Trump is because he is a flip flopper. He changes his political views like people change their shirts. He doesn't have a history of sticking with the same political view for very long.

  157. @Lagertha
    @TangoMan

    agree with everything you said. It seems (from his behavior these last 2 weeks) Trump really didn't believe he would get this far. This fact worries me. I was hoping he could now see that he must muster up the courage to actually, run for President. But, the fact that he got trapped in superficial snafus about social policies makes me believe that he is, unfortunately, not the real deal. Meaning, he really has never wanted to be President. So, now, what do we do.?...what is plan B? I think this is the first time in 35 years that I will not vote. I can't vote for Hillary and I won't vote for Cruz. Most of my closest friends are upset with me anyway, that I am for Trump...but now they are angry with me that I will not vote.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @unpc downunder

    Plan B – Trump and Sanders both run as independent spoilers. Hillary wins the Presidency with a pitiful percentage of the vote, which seriously undermines the legitimacy of the whole American political establishment.

  158. @Truth
    @Twinkie

    "My wife and I have all the credentials to be a part of the real elites if that were what we desired."

    Only bloodlines get you into "the real elites", Ace; therefore they would, if valid, probably have to be from your wife's family. Absent that, the most you can hope for is to be an extremely well-paid freelancer, and that may entail doing some things that may not jibe with your "conservative" morals.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/21340764/ns/politics/t/lynne-cheney-vp-obama-are-eighth-cousins/

    Replies: @Dirk Dagger, @Bill

    That’s assuming his stories are true or mostly true. I’m assuming he’s a fantasist. This is the internet.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Dirk Dagger

    I have sex with supermodels every damn day. BEAT THAT.

    , @Truth
    @Dirk Dagger

    My feeling is that he slightly "embellishes". I make it simple online though, and take everyone at their word.

    , @Twinkie
    @Dirk Dagger


    That’s assuming his stories are true or mostly true. I’m assuming he’s a fantasist. This is the internet.
     
    You are right. In fact, I am not even Asian! I am actually a short, chubby Latina with moderate IQ!

    I don't blame you. There is a lot of idiocy on the Internet. My wife frequently admonishes for wasting my time arguing with (or teaching) "morons on the Internet." She thinks that a person of my caliber should be doing useful things in real life.

  159. @TangoMan
    @Bill P

    Trump’s success to this point will only embolden people. He’s broken the paradigm.

    It's Trump or bust. Sure, Trump broke the paradigm but every politician needs to pass by the gatekeepers. Trump got billions in free advertising. Who else is positioned to match that feat? Every other politician needs patrons and if the patrons don't want "Trumpism" then any politician selling Trumpism is not going to advance very far.

    You want some evidence of how that works? Look to recent history. Trump is pulling in disaffected voters. Why were these voters sitting out past elections? Because no one spoke to their concerns. What was the past can also become the future.

    Trump alone is positioned to change the direction that the Republican ship is sailing but he needs to be in the wheelhouse to do that, to institutionalize a new party vision. If he goes down, his message goes down with him. Those in charge can simply freeze out similar messengers by denying them money.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Bill P

    Trump alone is positioned to change the direction that the Republican ship is sailing but he needs to be in the wheelhouse to do that, to institutionalize a new party vision. If he goes down, his message goes down with him. Those in charge can simply freeze out similar messengers by denying them money.

    If the Republican Party kills Trumpism, it will kill itself. They’ll lose their money when the Democrats seize one-party power and tax them into oblivion, which they will do. Oh, do you think the dems will cut them a break for being “moral statesmen” who defied the will of their voters? Yeah, right.

    Republicans are throwing away the constituency that has made them relevant over the past generation. There will be consequences.

    As for Trump’s diehard supporters, they represent a demographic with a lot more power than people like to admit. In fact, lots of people are terrified that they might find out that they have any power at all, and this has a lot to do with the attacks on Trump — they’re trying to stuff it before anything comes of it. But I think it’s a little too late to put that genie back in the lamp.

    Establishment Republicans might want to think about all converting to Mormonism and relocating to Salt Lake City. Utah will be about the only place left in the US where they constitute even a plurality. Maybe Ross Douthat can be the local Catholic apologist, trying his darndest to keep the Mexicans from converting away from Papism in the New World’s Zion.

    • Replies: @AmericanaCON
    @Bill P

    More so – Americans will not get rid of their elites. United States is proposition nation with a constructed national identity build on lofty words in a constitution which have changed many times since the beginning of this country to fit the elite ideology. Trump and “Trumpism” is done like dinner just as Buchanan and “Buchanism” is long gone. The reason why Trump failed was because he didn’t care about the Midwest and the West. Trump didn’t care about how he presented himself. In fact – Trump has never come prepared to an interview or debate. He spends his time writing angry tweets on Twitter and updates on his Facebook.

    There are plenty of entertainers who has gone into politics and failed. In 2009 comedian and millionaire “Beppe” Grillo founded the Five Star Movement (M5S). Grillo used the same populist tactics as Trump (and Berlusconi) and the party became a success. However, the party is already declining. It is declining because it is all “comedy” and “talk”. This is what the Trump campaign is. It is a lot of fun but plurality people will not vote for “fun” politicians. I think people should embrace the current political elite and accept that there will be no change. Instead people should understand that it is up to them to carve out good lives for themselves and their families – and do so within the current system.

    , @Felix.
    @Bill P


    As for Trump’s diehard supporters, they represent a demographic with a lot more power than people like to admit. In fact, lots of people are terrified that they might find out that they have any power at all, and this has a lot to do with the attacks on Trump — they’re trying to stuff it before anything comes of it. But I think it’s a little too late to put that genie back in the lamp.
     
    They have no power. Anyone who speaks on their behalf will be speaking into the wind without a microphone outside the stadium, while his competition will be inside on a stage in the spotlight. What Tangoman said is completely accurate. What makes Trump unique is not that he managed to access some untapped vein of public resentment that no one before him new existed. Everyone knew it existed. But in the same vein, everyone knew that tapping that vein would leave you standing outside the stadium shouting into the wind. Trump's uniqueness lay in his ability to force his way into the stadium and unto the stage without being invited by the elites. That ability is wholly within the man himself, not the political forces he represents. After Trump is gone, those forces will once again lie outside the public discourse, and if prior to Trump no politician wanted to touch them with a 10ft pole, now that 10ft pole will become a 20ft pole.
  160. @rod1963
    @TangoMan

    I agree with all that. Problem is you can't say any of that at Pro-Trump sites because they go nuts. They think Trump is infallible. He's not, he's shot himself in the foot more than once. His failure to fund a serious ground game in the fly over states hurt him badly - all because he's a cheap ass, his failure to address certain issues in some degree of specificity in public in a non flip flop manner like H1-B visa workers. In one debate he said he supported bringing in more H1-B workers then said the opposite afterwards.

    I suspect he doesn't listen to his advisers much or even read his position papers.

    His rallies are all the same, he gives a generic rah, rah speech with next to zero specifics. It's not bad, but with no ground game and ad campaign to follow it up, it fails to bring him the wins he needs.

    His interviews aren't much better, broad generalities and no specifics on much of anything. It's not a confidence builder at all.

    And what the hell was he doing even talking to Chris Matthews anyways. Was Trump taking his stupid pills or something? Mr. Tingly hates Trump and ambushed him good. And abortion is a serious hot button issue and he blew it. Even Roger Stone said as much in a polite manner.

    And yeah on delegate selection he's totally blown it. He let Cruz carve him up on this. I guess he couldn't be bothered to hire the talent and invest the resource to make sure delegate flipping didn't happen.

    He's so desperate for free PR he goes on every two bit radio or tv talk show he can find. All it does it bite him.

    All these little wounds add up.

    One other thing, He needs to show a more presidential persona in his rallies and selected interviews, he needs to tone down the rah, rah stuff and start talking like a statesmen. It really does impress a lot of people when it's done right.

    Replies: @TangoMan, @Twinkie, @Bert, @Boethius

    If Trump had been willing to fund a ground organization in Iowa-a state he really had no business losing-and the other caucus states then he’d already be the nominee and none of this would matter. Instead it’s become a nasty ugly drawn out fight that will end up hurting everyone. Except Hillary Clinton.

    I want to add that his obsession with Megyn Kelly is becoming a real problem. He seems unable to shut up about her, every week it’s something. I get that she and Fox News tried to screw him over, but for God’s sake’s this shit needs to stop. No wonder his numbers with women are rock bottom now.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Bert

    "I want to add that his obsession with Megyn Kelly is becoming a real problem. He seems unable to shut up about her, every week it’s something. I get that she and Fox News tried to screw him over, but for God’s sake’s this shit needs to stop. No wonder his numbers with women are rock bottom now."

    Most of the media in general is anti-Donald Trump, yet he only gets angry when Megyn Kelly criticizes him. But what Megyn Kelly says about him is tame compared to what The Left says about Donald, which is that he is Adolf Hitler.

    Joy Behar said he is the new Adolf Hitler, but you don't see Donald Trump go on Twitter and bash Joy Behar by saying that she has an ugly face and that no man would find her attractive.

    Why is it that Megyn Kelly is one of the few people who get under Donald Trump's skin, but not the majority of the mainstream media who say a lot worst things about him?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Romanian

  161. OT- Election up in Saskatchewan. Exciting, I know, but check out this video from Ezra Levant.

    The Liberals in the province, where Muslims are 1 in a 1,000, decided that 10% of their candidates should be Muslim. 100X over-representation.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @TangoMan

    Its interesting that even though French Canadians and Louisiana Cajuns share the same ancestry, on average they are complete political opposites from each other.

    , @AmericanaCON
    @TangoMan

    The current liberal tactic of mobilizing minorities has been a failure because the minorities are still minorities and they don’t vote in the same extent as the majority. However, when (or if) the Christian whites become minorities in western countries the strategy will be sound.

    , @anon
    @TangoMan

    https://youtu.be/eLWzOqCZfkc?t=93

    Linked to time stamp of statistics. These look to be correct, thus, his math is off. They're 1% of population, not 0.1%. Still a ridiculous over representation, of course. Libs doing the whole planning for the future thing-- have a handful of candidates in the stable to cater to future identity politics voting block.

  162. @TangoMan
    @Twinkie

    I've always intended to run to ground the actual statistics on how rare Palin's rise was but I never got around to it.

    As a minor player in Republican politics she took on the Party Chair and nailed him for corruption. She resigned on principle.

    Now here's where we can compare to other gubernatorial races. She ran in the primary against a sitting Governor. Beat him. She went into the general and ran against a respected ex-Governor and beat him.

    How often does a winning Gubernatorial candidate manage to claim the prize after taking away her party's nomination from a sitting Governor? I suspect that this is pretty rare. Anyone know just how rare (or common?)

    Palin rose on her own merits, unlike most female politicians.

    Replies: @Truth, @Bill jones

    And the flag on her desk was an Israeli one

    • Replies: @TangoMan
    @Bill jones

    And the flag on her desk was an Israeli one

    No one is perfect. I found her anti-corruption history more relevant than her religious positions. YMMV.

  163. @Mr. Anon
    @Anonym

    "I get the feeling you are concern trolling."

    I don't think he is. Twinkie is a good guy. He's just arguing for his guy, as we Trump supporters are arguing for ours.

    We don't all have to agree on everything.

    Replies: @Anonym, @Twinkie

    I think Twinkie is more like a Twinkie with custard inside. To outward appearances yellow on the outside, white on the inside, but really yellow on the inside too. When the white demographic has no practical remaining chance to dominate the electorate, there will be a “What do you mean ‘we’, paleface?” moment from him and those like him.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Anonym


    When the white demographic has no practical remaining chance to dominate the electorate, there will be a “What do you mean ‘we’, paleface?” moment from him and those like him.
     
    1. I am more pale-faced than most Mediterranean whites (though I tan easily under the sun). Last time I checked, people of my ethnicity are often lumped into "lily white" category by leftist race hustlers.

    2. I've shed blood for this, my adopted country, that I love so dearly. You think I'll sell out my beloved wife, her kin, and my children (who are half-white), and my friends and blood-brothers once the demographics of this country changes? Are you some kind of stupid?

    3. If I were interested in self-interest of a certain sort, with my elite credentials and affluence, I could be playing the whole SWPL/SWJ/leftist elite game TODAY. Lord knows my actual moral and philosophical views have been a hindrance to my careers and social acceptance, not a benefit. As it were, I find such a game repellent in the extreme.

    4. As a general comment (one that pertains to you as well), it seems to me that a lot of "white nationalist" types are so emotionally invested in the "everybody hates white males" meme that they would rather engage in the self-fulfilling prophesy of pre-emptively being hostile to everyone else ("See! He hates me! That's why I hated him first! And let him know it too!"), rather than actually embracing and working with earnest allies.

    Replies: @Anonym, @Jefferson, @Kevin O'Keeffe

  164. @TangoMan
    @Twinkie

    There are Trump cultists, sure, but they're pikers compared to the Cruz cultists. They combine conservatist purity with anti-Trump animus and, while each in their own right match the Trump cultists, the combination of both positions makes these guys come across as people who will walk through hell in order to complete their Holy Mission of delivering Cruz to the WH and keeping Trump out of it. Every political strategist wants to find ways to corral 50.1% of the population into his political movement but the Cruz cultists are taking the NRO purge impulse and are focused on purging the party down to a pure 10% of the entire electorate and want to banish every Trump supporter from the vicinity of any Republican office.

    These guys are like Kamikazes compared to Trump followers.

    Replies: @wonderbread

    You’re mixing up two groups. Cruz always had a fairly small but very devoted following of church-going evangelicals and other movement conservatives. The #NeverTrump crowd are Rubio people. Their website used to have a map up that proved this beyond doubt, but it was so embarrassing that they took it down. It’s Florida plus some big cities, mostly on the coasts. Cruz seems to regard the Rubio people as useful idiots, much as Trump regards everyone except himself.

    • Replies: @Bill
    @wonderbread


    It’s Florida plus some big cities, mostly on the coasts.
     
    This pattern suggests something . . . nope, I lost it.
  165. @International Jew
    @iSteveFan

    Maybe better we be disappointed now, than have President Trump disappoint us by forgetting his whole immigration platform. The guy is a flake. I'm sorry to say that, I really wish he wasn't.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @TangoMan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Yeah, @Boethius

    Of course he’s a flake. And let’s also note, he’s discrediting any idea of a wall or increased immigration enforcement. There was a poll from Bloomberg a week or two ago where something like 38% of Americans favor building a wall across the southern border, with a majority opposed.

    Instead of being an important policy issue where the GOP establishment is outmaneuvering the public for lobbyist dollars, Donald Trump has turned the whole thing into just one of his portfolio items of buffoonery.

  166. @Anonym
    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/sanders-anti-trump-groups-hold-ad-spending-edge-wisconsin-n550921

    Cruz plus anti-Trump ad spending is $3.4M. Trump only spent $0.5M. If it looks, walks and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. Cruz is the establishment candidate now.

    Replies: @Boethius

    Where’s the money supposed to come for Donald Trump to contest a general election? He’s promised to be self-funded, but he’s really not. He doesn’t have the money or the inclination to spend on a campaign.

    If you think he has a chance to beat Hillary or Bernie Sanders, I have a course from Trump University to sell you.

  167. @TangoMan
    OT- Election up in Saskatchewan. Exciting, I know, but check out this video from Ezra Levant.

    The Liberals in the province, where Muslims are 1 in a 1,000, decided that 10% of their candidates should be Muslim. 100X over-representation.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLWzOqCZfkc

    Replies: @Jefferson, @AmericanaCON, @anon

    Its interesting that even though French Canadians and Louisiana Cajuns share the same ancestry, on average they are complete political opposites from each other.

  168. Cruz is being fattened up for the kill by the msn. Only Trump will get stronger after the primary ordeal (because they have fired everything at him already).
    But if we need to have a brokered candidate, it better be a proven Hillary-slayer… Someone like Bernie Sanders.

  169. @TangoMan
    OT- Election up in Saskatchewan. Exciting, I know, but check out this video from Ezra Levant.

    The Liberals in the province, where Muslims are 1 in a 1,000, decided that 10% of their candidates should be Muslim. 100X over-representation.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLWzOqCZfkc

    Replies: @Jefferson, @AmericanaCON, @anon

    The current liberal tactic of mobilizing minorities has been a failure because the minorities are still minorities and they don’t vote in the same extent as the majority. However, when (or if) the Christian whites become minorities in western countries the strategy will be sound.

  170. @Truth
    @TangoMan

    I"’ve always intended to run to ground the actual statistics on how rare Palin’s rise was but I never got around to it."

    There's nothing truly rare there, she is a simpleton who was chosen to ensure that John McCain lose an election, without making it too obvious, and she did an excellent job.

    Replies: @Anonym

    McCain could have run with the reanimated body of Reagan as VP and still lost. But I think you may be more right than wrong.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Anonym

    I agree, but at that level of Bilderberg activity, a little insurance doesn't hurt. We are still talking about a "lower human life form" running against a white man, even as mediocre as he is.

  171. @Tiny Duck
    Trump just died tonight. This is the beginning of the end.

    The Cruz sex scandal is hogwash.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Mr. Anon, @epebble, @Boethius, @Anon

    What scandal? Ted Cruz supposedly had sex with a some Washington staffwomen, according to National Enquirer? They got nothin’. It’s irrelevant even if it’s true.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Boethius

    I dunno, Cruz hasn't been very close to the heat yet and he already looks like he's melting.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Boethius

    "It’s irrelevant even if it’s true."

    Democrats can push that line about Bill Clinton. A full-on bible-waving "body-of-christ" Republican can't really get away with that. He can't tell his supporters that his infidelities are irrelevant (if the story should prove to be true). And he certainly won't be given a pass on it by the Democrats.

    , @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    @Boethius

    If it's true, it's totally relevant if (like Cruz) you have been presenting yourself as the evangelical candidate the whole time.

  172. @Anonymous
    @iSteveFan


    Wisconsin Sucks
     
    Agree. With a low-IQed governor who got kicked out of Marquette for a ow GPA.

    Fuck flyover country. Fuck the GOP. I've voted straight Republican since 1984. It's now only Trump or nothing for me. A non-Trump GOP candidate and I'll vote Democrat or third party (especially if Trump goes third party). If the GOP establish #NeverTrump conglomeration of globalist special interests succeed then I will NEVER vote for a Republican again. And I will work tirelessly to support things which subvert them. Not that these establishment types give a shit, but they will when they try to live in a country which is a hodgepodge clusterfuck and their lives are degraded.

    Replies: @Boethius, @Anonymous Nephew

    It’s ok. You can decide to be an American any day now.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Boethius

    Like Cruz did.

  173. @Dirk Dagger
    @Truth

    That's assuming his stories are true or mostly true. I'm assuming he's a fantasist. This is the internet.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Truth, @Twinkie

    I have sex with supermodels every damn day. BEAT THAT.

  174. @rod1963
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Now you realize the old, rich white dudes calling the shots don't really care what the proles think and do.

    Telling blue collar and middle-class whites their vote is meaningless doesn't mean squat to them. The elites know there is little to fear from folks hunting them down. White Americans aren't at that place yet where they push back hard. Though I think it's getting closer as the elites are so openly contemptuous of the American people. Before they carefully hid their contempt through a slick PR system, but now...

    Trump did that much, exposed the cretins behind the green curtain and showing what a complete fraud our political and media system is. Basically the current system amounts to a flock of sheep voting for which wolf they want to devour them. While the MSM cheers on the butchery.

    Replies: @Boethius

    I don’t know if I believe that or not. But if I did, who can blame them really. It’s hard to have a whole lot of sympathy for people who are going to send America down the drain for the sake of Donald Fucking Trump.

    • Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    @Boethius

    "It’s hard to have a whole lot of sympathy for people who are going to send America down the drain for the sake of Donald Fucking Trump."
    You sound like a hysterical 13 year old girl. Are you male or female? Not judging, just like to know.

  175. @Honesthughgrant
    As someone else stated, Wisconsin is a cross between Minnesota and Illinois. Given that, Cruz's victory was expected. If Rubio had stayed in, he probably would've won the state, or Jeb!

    Replies: @LondonBob, @Mike Zwick

    Yeah big shock Trump loses state he is expected to lose. Still picked up two CDs and thus six delegates. On to NY where he should win by a landslide, with his first fifty plus, with eighty plus delegates. Then the Acela primaries which will also be a landslide. Trump has learnt an important lesson now to get more professional.

    NY is and expensive market for the special interests to buy ads in too.

    As Sam Wang says, time to buy Trump.

    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @LondonBob

    Really do not see how any of this makes a difference, white people will still be gone from North America unless they can win a nature preserve for themselves, electing Trump is as effective as using a teaspoon to empty the world's oceans.

    Replies: @The most deplorable one

    , @Suburban Dad
    @LondonBob

    What evidence is there that Trump has learned his lesson. His loony-tunes screed of a concession that he put out last night?

    MY lesson of the past nine months is Trump is incapable of learning any lessons.

    That worked well when he was making himself more popular by defying the MSM and GOPe last summer ... but it's not working so well when what he's doing seems to underline a consistent antipathy to women who don't meet his beauty standards (or who do and seem not to want him), a lack of consideration of BASIC public policy issues like abortion that begs the question does he have a considered view of ANY issue), and a complete incompetence at the blocking and tackling that is becoming a Presidential nominee. (He will have 50+ fewer first ballot votes than he should have, and 150+ fewer rules and procedural votes, than he would have in a competent race, each quite possibly being his margin of victory, or defeat.)

    Replies: @Anonym

  176. @tsotha

    Oh, and nary a mention in MSM of Cruz sex scandal. Incredible
     
    That's because there is no sex scandal. There was an article in the National Enquirer that said unnamed sources said Cruz had affairs. Unless some actual evidence comes to light, that's not a scandal.

    Replies: @LondonBob

    Cruz hasn’t sued has he, it is confirmed. Certain special interests have ensured there is wall to wall negative coverage of Trump and Cruz is now being built up. It is very obvious, they are seeking to block the nomination but also to damage Trump for the general.

    • Replies: @Boethius
    @LondonBob

    Nobody has to do anything to damage Trump in the general. He's doing it all to himself. He's got a 20% approval rating with women and is losing to Hillary Miserable Clinton by double digits. Let's get a grip already and lose the Christine O'Donnell fantasy.

  177. @LondonBob
    @Honesthughgrant

    Yeah big shock Trump loses state he is expected to lose. Still picked up two CDs and thus six delegates. On to NY where he should win by a landslide, with his first fifty plus, with eighty plus delegates. Then the Acela primaries which will also be a landslide. Trump has learnt an important lesson now to get more professional.

    NY is and expensive market for the special interests to buy ads in too.

    As Sam Wang says, time to buy Trump.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Suburban Dad

    Really do not see how any of this makes a difference, white people will still be gone from North America unless they can win a nature preserve for themselves, electing Trump is as effective as using a teaspoon to empty the world’s oceans.

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    @Anonymous


    electing Trump is as effective as using a teaspoon to empty the world’s oceans.
     
    Well, it's more effective that electing another member of the Clinton Crime Syndicate or any of the other traitors, unless your goal is to let the blood flow.

    It does seem like we are headed for a civil war and it is going to be more bloody this time around. There are a lot of scores to be settled.
  178. fortunately i’m not american. being screwed over by an establishment-rigged election is de rigueur in many parts of the world. except often it’s the result of us/cia/soros meddling in those nations. which is why so many people hate the us, and i’m talking about white people outside of the us.
    the establishment only wants us to continue supporting them and screwing ourselves so that they can live in comfort. who needs that crap?
    i’m rooting for trump coz i like the guy, he has integrity in his own right, and i think he stands a chance to overturn the applecart. anyway, i always root for anti-establishment types. this was an establishment-engineered defeat for trump, but a strong candidate needs to be able to deal with adversity. it’s bound to happen, and is not the end of the world

  179. @Boethius
    @rod1963

    I don't know if I believe that or not. But if I did, who can blame them really. It's hard to have a whole lot of sympathy for people who are going to send America down the drain for the sake of Donald Fucking Trump.

    Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...

    “It’s hard to have a whole lot of sympathy for people who are going to send America down the drain for the sake of Donald Fucking Trump.”
    You sound like a hysterical 13 year old girl. Are you male or female? Not judging, just like to know.

  180. @Bill jones
    @TangoMan

    And the flag on her desk was an Israeli one

    Replies: @TangoMan

    And the flag on her desk was an Israeli one

    No one is perfect. I found her anti-corruption history more relevant than her religious positions. YMMV.

  181. Pat Casey says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    @Twinkie


    I have no faith in any politician. However, politics is something – however corrupt – that can be harnessed.
     
    Well said.

    This is the principle upon which our Constitution is based. The authors knew human nature is what it is.

    The central conceit of the political left, of communist and socialist philosophies, is that human faults can be eliminated for the good of the people. This false assumption is why they fail -- and why they allow the power-hungry to control others.

    Replies: @Pat Casey, @StAugustine

    Its so hard to change the past when you think about it. Remember when you told me Bucky Fuller quoted Pound’s Thinking Changes What Is Thought About? Pound never actually wrote that. Fuller said no chance of digging it up but I remember the memory. Thanks to Hugh Kenner, we realize thinking about thinking changing changes Pound. That’s why we shouldn’t even think about those we have no connection to. Faults are eliminated at the speed of time. Duh.

  182. @Dirk Dagger
    @Truth

    That's assuming his stories are true or mostly true. I'm assuming he's a fantasist. This is the internet.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Truth, @Twinkie

    My feeling is that he slightly “embellishes”. I make it simple online though, and take everyone at their word.

  183. In the GOP civil war Cruz just had his Chickamauga, his last hurrah before a long, grueling and exhausting campaign that will end in what in hindsight will have been seen an inevitable defeat(just like the real Civil War). There are simply no states coming that are favorable to him, save New Mexico perhaps, and in recent polls in some of them he is trailing 20-30 points.

    The worst part for Cruz is, that unlike the Civil War for the South, this campaign was actually winnable for him. Right from the begining it was obvious to everyone except GOPe (not for nothing is it known as “The Stupid Party”) that this is going to be a Trump vs. Cruz race. It wasn’t just the numbers, it was the fact that only Cruz understood what it takes to beat Trump: co-opt his message and present himself as a more credible messenger. GOPe in it’s arrogance and aloofness, however, insisted on their traditional platform of amnesty, open borders, free trade, tax cuts for the rich and perpetual war that was immensely unpopular as well as morally and ideologically bankrupt. They wen all-in with their boy Rubio who, on top of it all, was not the wonderful candidate he was made out to be. The decisive tactical mistake by GOPe was their desperate attempt to resuscitate the Rubio campaign between New Hampshire and First Super Tuesday. They tried to do it at the expense of Cruz and it only resulted in the latter being derailed just long enough (and in states that had favorable demographics for Cruz) to make the Trump Train unstoppable. Had a fraction of energy of what was spent to prop-up a dead end candidate like Rubio been used on helping Cruz, we propably would have been looking at a neck-and-neck race now where all bets would be off.

    Cruz will lose and his supporters are deluding themselves if they think otherwise. He is a very capable politician in many ways, however. Unlike Rubio, I can actually see him rebounding from this loss however this race turns out.

  184. @Anonym
    @Truth

    McCain could have run with the reanimated body of Reagan as VP and still lost. But I think you may be more right than wrong.

    Replies: @Truth

    I agree, but at that level of Bilderberg activity, a little insurance doesn’t hurt. We are still talking about a “lower human life form” running against a white man, even as mediocre as he is.

  185. AmericanaCON [AKA "Cody Carson"] says:
    @Bill P
    @TangoMan


    Trump alone is positioned to change the direction that the Republican ship is sailing but he needs to be in the wheelhouse to do that, to institutionalize a new party vision. If he goes down, his message goes down with him. Those in charge can simply freeze out similar messengers by denying them money.
     
    If the Republican Party kills Trumpism, it will kill itself. They'll lose their money when the Democrats seize one-party power and tax them into oblivion, which they will do. Oh, do you think the dems will cut them a break for being "moral statesmen" who defied the will of their voters? Yeah, right.

    Republicans are throwing away the constituency that has made them relevant over the past generation. There will be consequences.

    As for Trump's diehard supporters, they represent a demographic with a lot more power than people like to admit. In fact, lots of people are terrified that they might find out that they have any power at all, and this has a lot to do with the attacks on Trump -- they're trying to stuff it before anything comes of it. But I think it's a little too late to put that genie back in the lamp.

    Establishment Republicans might want to think about all converting to Mormonism and relocating to Salt Lake City. Utah will be about the only place left in the US where they constitute even a plurality. Maybe Ross Douthat can be the local Catholic apologist, trying his darndest to keep the Mexicans from converting away from Papism in the New World's Zion.

    Replies: @AmericanaCON, @Felix.

    More so – Americans will not get rid of their elites. United States is proposition nation with a constructed national identity build on lofty words in a constitution which have changed many times since the beginning of this country to fit the elite ideology. Trump and “Trumpism” is done like dinner just as Buchanan and “Buchanism” is long gone. The reason why Trump failed was because he didn’t care about the Midwest and the West. Trump didn’t care about how he presented himself. In fact – Trump has never come prepared to an interview or debate. He spends his time writing angry tweets on Twitter and updates on his Facebook.

    There are plenty of entertainers who has gone into politics and failed. In 2009 comedian and millionaire “Beppe” Grillo founded the Five Star Movement (M5S). Grillo used the same populist tactics as Trump (and Berlusconi) and the party became a success. However, the party is already declining. It is declining because it is all “comedy” and “talk”. This is what the Trump campaign is. It is a lot of fun but plurality people will not vote for “fun” politicians. I think people should embrace the current political elite and accept that there will be no change. Instead people should understand that it is up to them to carve out good lives for themselves and their families – and do so within the current system.

  186. Well, Trump has already served his purpose: that of destroying the republican party. There is no chance that the Republican party has a future . The party has become divided between nationalists and globalist cucks. Neither division is large enough to win a general election.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @anon

    "Well, Trump has already served his purpose: that of destroying the republican party. There is no chance that the Republican party has a future . The party has become divided between nationalists and globalist cucks. Neither division is large enough to win a general election."

    Why can't neither division win a general election, is it because America is a Left Of Center nation because of changing racial demographics? Ronald Reagan couldn't win a general election in 2016 because he would be considered too Right Wing for Hispanics, Asians, and African Americans. Ronald Reagan was a tough on crime law & order type of guy, so he would have been seen as Adolf Hitler by Black Lies Matter and Social Justice Warrior college students.

  187. @iSteveFan
    @International Jew

    The guy is a flake. I’m sorry to say that, I really wish he wasn’t.

    He is not a flake. All you have to do is look at his wife, or wives, and his kids. The kids seem well adjusted. The wives have been pretty sharp and attractive ladies. Just because one has money doesn't mean he gets the nicest girl. Just look at Jeb!

    Trump is also a successful businessman who has the support of guys like Icahn. He wouldn't get that support if he were a flake.

    The reason you think he is a flake is because he has been under the microscope for 9 months. Not only that, but he has been under a hostile microscope. Think about how your perception of Trump would be if he were treated like the media treated Obama. Every hour of every day, every time he speaks, the media is out for that gotcha moment on Trump. That is a lot of pressure that I don't t think many of us could handle.

    The fact that Trump has not had a nervous breakdown is quite telling. He travels non-stop, sleeps 4 hours per night and almost never gives guarded answers. If anything that is his problem. He doesn't know when to pipe down. But I suppose he is learning. From his Hannity interview last night I think he realizes the last couple of weeks were tough and that he contributed to it.

    So no I don't think he is a flake. He is just a guy who has undergone more attacks than any other politician in recent memory. From his own party, the democrats, the president, the loons in the British parliament and even the pope, who hasn't attacked him? And he is still in first place and hasn't lost his mind yet!

    Replies: @Whiskey, @TangoMan, @Anonymous, @Lagertha, @Diversity Heretic

    If he’s really sleeping only four hours a night, there’s trouble ahead. He turns seventy this year. That kind of a pace is impossible for anyone to maintain. I hope that Melania has enough influence to intervene and calm things down–that’s a genuinely important role for a candidate’s wife or a First Lady for that matter.

  188. @Bill P
    @TangoMan


    Trump alone is positioned to change the direction that the Republican ship is sailing but he needs to be in the wheelhouse to do that, to institutionalize a new party vision. If he goes down, his message goes down with him. Those in charge can simply freeze out similar messengers by denying them money.
     
    If the Republican Party kills Trumpism, it will kill itself. They'll lose their money when the Democrats seize one-party power and tax them into oblivion, which they will do. Oh, do you think the dems will cut them a break for being "moral statesmen" who defied the will of their voters? Yeah, right.

    Republicans are throwing away the constituency that has made them relevant over the past generation. There will be consequences.

    As for Trump's diehard supporters, they represent a demographic with a lot more power than people like to admit. In fact, lots of people are terrified that they might find out that they have any power at all, and this has a lot to do with the attacks on Trump -- they're trying to stuff it before anything comes of it. But I think it's a little too late to put that genie back in the lamp.

    Establishment Republicans might want to think about all converting to Mormonism and relocating to Salt Lake City. Utah will be about the only place left in the US where they constitute even a plurality. Maybe Ross Douthat can be the local Catholic apologist, trying his darndest to keep the Mexicans from converting away from Papism in the New World's Zion.

    Replies: @AmericanaCON, @Felix.

    As for Trump’s diehard supporters, they represent a demographic with a lot more power than people like to admit. In fact, lots of people are terrified that they might find out that they have any power at all, and this has a lot to do with the attacks on Trump — they’re trying to stuff it before anything comes of it. But I think it’s a little too late to put that genie back in the lamp.

    They have no power. Anyone who speaks on their behalf will be speaking into the wind without a microphone outside the stadium, while his competition will be inside on a stage in the spotlight. What Tangoman said is completely accurate. What makes Trump unique is not that he managed to access some untapped vein of public resentment that no one before him new existed. Everyone knew it existed. But in the same vein, everyone knew that tapping that vein would leave you standing outside the stadium shouting into the wind. Trump’s uniqueness lay in his ability to force his way into the stadium and unto the stage without being invited by the elites. That ability is wholly within the man himself, not the political forces he represents. After Trump is gone, those forces will once again lie outside the public discourse, and if prior to Trump no politician wanted to touch them with a 10ft pole, now that 10ft pole will become a 20ft pole.

  189. Minnesota and Wisconsin and maybe Utah voted alike. Anything in common? Vestigial socialism. German anti-pride caused them to vote against Drumpf. They love NATO.

  190. @Jefferson
    @Twinkie

    "Maybe. But Trump is turning off married women in droves. And when the GOP loses married women, it does very poorly. Cruz doesn’t have to attract Democrats to win."

    If Donald Trump can't even win over a female Far Right Winger like Dana Loesch who owns as many if not more guns than Ted Nugent, how will he fare among more moderate middle of the road female voters?

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist, @Maj. Kong, @Mr. Anon

    Loesch is part of Conservatism Inc, and has never generated a leftist anathema like Ann Coulter.

    For what it is worth, I would credit her success to her looks, just like most of the product on Fox News.

    Married women having angst over Trump is a shit test for their husbands.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Maj. Kong

    "Loesch is part of Conservatism Inc"

    No she is not. She has been a genuine Ted Cruz supporter ever since he first announced his presidency, back when there was like 300 candidates in the GOP field running for POTUS. She is not a former Little Marco or Low Energy Jeb supporter, who only now supports Ted because he is the lesser of 2 evils compared to Donald Trump.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  191. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Twinkie


    I have no faith in any politician. However, politics is something – however corrupt – that can be harnessed.
     
    Well said.

    This is the principle upon which our Constitution is based. The authors knew human nature is what it is.

    The central conceit of the political left, of communist and socialist philosophies, is that human faults can be eliminated for the good of the people. This false assumption is why they fail -- and why they allow the power-hungry to control others.

    Replies: @Pat Casey, @StAugustine

    I think it goes even further back.
    “Put your trust not in princes.”
    Ah, timeless wisdom-priceless.

  192. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @TangoMan
    OT- Election up in Saskatchewan. Exciting, I know, but check out this video from Ezra Levant.

    The Liberals in the province, where Muslims are 1 in a 1,000, decided that 10% of their candidates should be Muslim. 100X over-representation.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLWzOqCZfkc

    Replies: @Jefferson, @AmericanaCON, @anon

    https://youtu.be/eLWzOqCZfkc?t=93

    Linked to time stamp of statistics. These look to be correct, thus, his math is off. They’re 1% of population, not 0.1%. Still a ridiculous over representation, of course. Libs doing the whole planning for the future thing– have a handful of candidates in the stable to cater to future identity politics voting block.

  193. @Boethius
    @Tiny Duck

    What scandal? Ted Cruz supposedly had sex with a some Washington staffwomen, according to National Enquirer? They got nothin'. It's irrelevant even if it's true.

    Replies: @Pericles, @Mr. Anon, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    I dunno, Cruz hasn’t been very close to the heat yet and he already looks like he’s melting.

  194. @Boethius
    @Anonymous

    It's ok. You can decide to be an American any day now.

    Replies: @Pericles

    Like Cruz did.

  195. @Matra
    Earlier tonight someone on Fox said only 5% of voters in Wisconsin consider immigration their most important issue. It must be infuriating to whites blessed with diversity to see how clueless and selfish other white people can be.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Stan d Mute

    Earlier tonight someone on Fox said only 5% of voters in Wisconsin consider immigration their most important issue. It must be infuriating to whites blessed with diversity to see how clueless and selfish other white people can be.

    That’s really it isn’t it? I was going to suggest “stupid” in place of “clueless” but what really is the difference – the net result is the same. You’ve got the brain dead Thumpers who think Rafael is “anointed” and for whom no amount of American blood and treasure is too much expended on Israel/Zion. These folks have a room temperature IQ and can’t quite grasp that relitigating Roe v Wade while the crony capitalists and televangelists Hoover up every last shred of wealth from middle America is a self-defeating strategy. And of course the “selfish” who are doing the Hoovering and depositing mind-boggling sums are certainly not going to derail their own gravy train. As long as there are still rubes with liquid assets to grab, they’ll keep promoting their “Look, rabbit!” misdirection which has served them so well for the past half century.

    The die has been cast and the rules of the game won’t change. Long after the coming economic collapse, when the best career in America is scrap metal collecting, the oligarch “conservative” donor class will still be pimping “conservative” candidates running against homo marriage and demanding a couple more US aircraft carrier groups in the Persian gulf and eastern Med. The “clueless” will be handling snakes, speaking in tongues, and wearing magical underwear while waving American flags and proudly sending their kids off to die in the desert while casting their latest vote for the latest “anointed” candidate. Who cares about national debt or having a job when you just know that any second now your messiah will appear to hand you your own golden ticket to eternal Disneyland?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Stan d Mute

    Brutal but accurate. It's amazing how bible beaters are so easy to dupe. Then again the Democrat base is also full of dupes of a different flavor. Humans are very dupeable.

  196. http://theconservativetreehouse.com/

    The Wisconsin map is interesting. Trump won the rural areas. More counties but less population. Cruz won the cities.

  197. Everyone here is condemning Wisconsin, but it’s not really a fair estimation. Wisconsin has been deeply divided between the cities and rural areas for a long time-the cities vote Democrat and the countryside votes Republican. It’s long been a “Farmers vs Unions” split. However, there’s a finger on the tab for the Democrat side, and that’s the university system spread throughout the state. So, in normal years, Republicans are stuck as the minority party, as they just didn’t have the numbers to do anything in the legislatures, even if they manage to get a Republican governor (Tommy Thompson).

    However, the Great Obama Backlash threw a bunch of Republicans into office where they normally are not: namely Paul Ryan in the 1st district in Milwaukee, and Scott Walker into the governor’s office. Walker is a nice nice guy who knows how to play dirty while looking clean. That is to say, he came from the Milwaukee system, same as Ryan. I think that to get into play in Milwaukee as a Republican, you have to be RINO-like, thus, their actions should not really be that surprising to anyone.

    You can see the city vs countryside split:
    http://interactive.nydailynews.com/2016/04/election-2016-live-voting-results-wisconsin-primary/

    I find it interesting that Cruz does better close to Minneapolis, but Trump does better closer to Chicago. Also, that Dane county (Madison) was as close as it was (7% margin), compared to the counties around Milwaukee (20-30% margins).

    Also what is interesting is that the total number of Republican votes cast was greater than the number of Democrat votes. But are these voters who would switch from Trump to Bernie if it is Bernie vs Cruz? Or would Cruz/Kaisch voters decide to vote Hillary in Hillary vs Trump?

    • Replies: @Ed
    @StAugustine

    This is somewhat snarky, but there will be other people who read this comment and will be confused. You are reading the map wrong. The bright orange are places Cruz won, and the darker maroons color are the places Trump won. Its the exact opposite as you describe. Or you don't know that Chicago is off the lower righthand side, and Minneapolis the upper lefthand side.

    The larger points on Wisconsin politics is not that accurate. The election of neither Ryan or Walker had little or nothing to do with the anti-Obama backlash. One of the ways that Wisconsin is unusual politically is that it is one of the few remaining states where Democrats are competitive in rural areas. The Republicans build their margins in the bright red suburbs of Milwaukee. They usually win the Milwaukee area and break even in the rest of the state.

    None of this affects a Republican presidential primary anyway. Trump simply doesn't appeal much in the upper Midwest, probably due to his personality, and he had an usually bad couple weeks in terms of negative stuff on TV. That is about it. Walker did try to run for President himself, and would have been the Rubio of the campaign if Rubio hadn't become the Rubio.

  198. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @iSteveFan
    @Twinkie

    Cruz is physically unappealing. He is not photogenic and his bible antics won't play in much of the nation. He will be limited to solid red states and won't be able to compete at all in purple states.

    Hillary will have the full tailwind of the MSM behind her.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Cruz is physically unappealing. He is not photogenic and his bible antics won’t play in much of the nation. He will be limited to solid red states and won’t be able to compete at all in purple states.

    Hillary will have the full tailwind of the MSM behind her.

    And me, a straight ticket Republican voter for 40 years. What the establishment has done has made me realize that I cannot support a Cruz, Kasich, Ryan, etc. With certitude I will vote for Hillary over Cruz. I’ve convinced other Republican family members in battlegrounds states to do the same. Worse is the better option. Vote the bigger devil.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Anonymous

    "And me, a straight ticket Republican voter for 40 years. What the establishment has done has made me realize that I cannot support a Cruz, Kasich, Ryan, etc. With certitude I will vote for Hillary over Cruz. I’ve convinced other Republican family members in battlegrounds states to do the same. Worse is the better option. Vote the bigger devil."

    Hildabeast belongs in prison, not The White House.

  199. What I think is depressing is not so much the prospect that Trump may lose but that the energetic expression of the alt-right so close to a head gets snuffed out (again). I fear the next major Republican leader may pull a George W. Bush and quash any alt/paleo/trad opposition for another half-generation. By then it will be too late.

  200. @Cwhatfuture
    The women in my family find Cruz repulsive and reptilian. These are GOP voters. I see what they mean. He looks in-bred to me. Every time he speaks I expect him to take a banjo out and begin playing the theme from Deliverance.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anonymous, @Pat Gilligan, @DWB

    The women in my family find Cruz repulsive and reptilian. These are GOP voters. I see what they mean. He looks in-bred to me. Every time he speaks I expect him to take a banjo out and begin playing the theme from Deliverance.

    Yeah, and I’ve yet to see his purported brilliance. Rafael Cruz got into elites school through AA. And the bullshit about Dershowitz saying Cruz was the most brilliant student was expected. The most important thing to Dershowitz is Israel, so his comment says more about Cruz’s Israel-first devotion than it does Cruz’s brilliance.

  201. @Alice
    @iSteveFan

    Trump insulted Walker. Wisconsites don't like big city bombastic types to come and insult their guy. Maybe their guy was milquetoast. Maybe their guy wasn't ready for media attention. But he was Their Guy, Their Kinda Guy. And Ryan, too, is their guy. And Trump attacked him, too.

    Maybe Cruz isn't connecting. But maybe it was a repudiation.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Another Canadian

    Wisconsites don’t like big city bombastic types to come and insult their guy.

    I worked on a job outside Milwaukee for 9 months back in the 90s. The people were very nice, low conflict get-along types, a lot like the WASP in-laws in My Big Fat Greek Wedding. Bundt cakes and potted plants and always use your inside voice. It was the only time in all my travels that I had a visit from the Welcome Wagon, bringing a basket of goodies provided by the local merchants. I thought there was a good fit between Cheese-Heads and Canadians…similar personalities, outlook on life and worldview, a very Northern European Social Democratic point of view.

    Maybe when the U.S. has its inevitable crack-up Wisconsin will become a Canadian province.

    • Replies: @SteveO
    @Another Canadian


    The people were very nice, low conflict get-along types, a lot like the WASP in-laws in My Big Fat Greek Wedding. Bundt cakes and potted plants and always use your inside voice. It was the only time in all my travels that I had a visit from the Welcome Wagon, bringing a basket of goodies provided by the local merchants. I thought there was a good fit between Cheese-Heads and Canadians…similar personalities, outlook on life and worldview, a very Northern European Social Democratic point of view.
     
    There's a lot of Wisconsin-bashing going on here today, but by this description it sounds like a wonderful place. Of course, so does Canada, which would be a great place to live if it wasn't for their crazy social policies.
  202. I think everyone’s missing the main point here. People from Wisconsin are all Jews. Only Jews don’t like Trump, people from Wisonsin don’t like Trump. It’s not rocket science folks.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Gabriel M

    "I think everyone’s missing the main point here. People from Wisconsin are all Jews. Only Jews don’t like Trump, people from Wisonsin don’t like Trump. It’s not rocket science folks."

    And don't forget Texans are all Jews as well, hence why Donald Trump lost that state.

  203. sorry

  204. @LondonBob
    @tsotha

    Cruz hasn't sued has he, it is confirmed. Certain special interests have ensured there is wall to wall negative coverage of Trump and Cruz is now being built up. It is very obvious, they are seeking to block the nomination but also to damage Trump for the general.

    Replies: @Boethius

    Nobody has to do anything to damage Trump in the general. He’s doing it all to himself. He’s got a 20% approval rating with women and is losing to Hillary Miserable Clinton by double digits. Let’s get a grip already and lose the Christine O’Donnell fantasy.

  205. @iSteveFan

    Trump is going to get covered because he has a big personality and he’s engaging. He’d be doing us all a favor if that coverage was focused on substance rather than tweeting pictures of Cruz’s wife or alienating the pro-life crowd. Talk more about disbanding NATO.
     
    I agree. This was a bad, bad two weeks for Trump. And it was self-inflicted. He had the Brussels issue that should have solidified his lead in the polls, but he let the subject get changed.

    As I wrote to Lagertha, Trump came as close to saying "I messed up" as I've seen him ever do when he told Hannity he regretted the tweet and that he spends too much time on twitter. Let's hope he rights his ship and that he has learned a tough lesson.

    Replies: @Boethius

    Let’s hope he loses asap so we still have the chance to nominate Ted Cruz who will beat Hillary Clinton instead of Donald Trump, who won’t.

    • Replies: @C
    @Boethius

    I'm curious as to why you think Cruz could beat Hillary.

    It can't be the polls. General election polls mean nothing right now. No one seriously believes John Kasich would win the general, which is what they are saying.

    If Cruz "wins" the nomination at the convention, a huge swath of Trump voters will stay home as they'll feel Trump has been screwed (and he will have been screwed). They'll rightly feel like the GOP doesn't care about their vote.

    On top of that, it will be easy for the MSM and Hillary to smack Cruz around on all his policy positions in which he has basically flopped from globalist to nationalist to copy Trump. Working class whites (and to a lesser extent minorities) aren't going to vote for Mr. TPP himself.

    And oh, by the way, if you think Trump screwed up on abortion and alienated women, just wait until Hillary goes all in on Cruz. At least Trump said Planned Parenthood should be funded outside of abortion.

    And that doesn't even get into his wife working for Goldman Sachs, possible sex scandal, birther arguments, etc.

    The only thing that Cruz POSSIBLY has going for him is the election of Supreme Court justices. However, its unlikely that a lot of working class Trump voters are going to care about that that much to actually vote for the guy who stole their vote.

    Trump is the only possible nominee who can beat Hillary.

    Replies: @Boethius

  206. I’m surprised at the large margin, but not at all that Cruz won. People underestimate the level that Wisconsin is establishment, anti-abortion Republicans. Cruz came out and said he’s against abortion in the case of rape. That sunk two tea party Senate candidates in 12. Didn’t even make the news here.

    Wisconsin is over 90% white. They don’t feel the need for immigration reform. Talk Radio is huge up here, but you never hear them mention it. I argued with a Walker staffer at a bar this past summer about it… immigration wasn’t even on their radar.

    Trump’s biggest mistake was blasting Walker and the state Republicans up here over Walker’s tepid endorsement of Cruz (Walker never said a bad word about Trump publicly). Trump tried saying they should have raised taxes (wtf?) when Wisconsin is one of the ten most tax heavy states in the country. The whole state Republican party was elected in to power on a lower taxes platform a few years ago. A dumb move by Trump that almost cost him my vote… it took me a couple days to move past that idiotic remark.

    Still… I’m a little surprised that Cruz almost got 50%.

    • Replies: @5371
    @Polynikes

    Wisconsin was only 83% non-Hispanic white, even in 2010.

  207. @Honesthughgrant
    As someone else stated, Wisconsin is a cross between Minnesota and Illinois. Given that, Cruz's victory was expected. If Rubio had stayed in, he probably would've won the state, or Jeb!

    Replies: @LondonBob, @Mike Zwick

    I can see Minnesota, but Illinois? Outside Chicago, the only area of Illinois that is in any way similar to Wisconsin is the area north of Interstate 80. The rest of the state was early on settled by southerners and this is still reflected. Cairo, Illinois is closer to Jackson, Mississippi than it is to Chicago. Where Wisconsin is filled with Schmenge Brother ump-pa-pa German Polka bands, Illinois is filled with rednecks flying the stars and bars.

  208. @Jefferson
    @Clifford Brown

    "Trump’s base is Scots-Irish areas from the Deep South up the Appalachian spine into the Northeast. Trump’s appeal is to those who have been enriched by diversity."

    Appalachia is racially diverse? As in Chicago level diverse?

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    The South, Mid-Atlantic and Northeast is all about whites fleeing to majority-white school districts. That is all you need to understand to make money in real estate on the Eastern seaboard.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    "The South, Mid-Atlantic and Northeast is all about whites fleeing to majority-white school districts. That is all you need to understand to make money in real estate on the Eastern seaboard."

    How many majority African American and Hispanic school districts are there in rural Appalachia?

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

  209. After reading through the comments, I wanted to add another point.

    I think some are giving Cruz a harder time than he deserves . If Trump weren’t in the race, Cruz would be the ant-immigration, anti-establishment candidate.

    Wisconsin isn’t really backing Cruz, so much as stopping Trump. I had more than one high ranking party member tell me that Cruz was ineligible for office due to the birth thing. The talk radio guys have not endorsed Cruz. One, Charlie Sykes, has even said he doesn’t like Cruz, but he urged everyone to vote for him to stop Trump.

    Another commentator hit the nail on the head when they said that Wisconsin has a functioning Republican party so it was a mistake for Trump to attack them. In the last 6 years the local Republicans have accomplished some noteworthy reforms up here regarding unions, taxes, and the 2nd amendment. Immigration just isn’t on the radar.

    FWIW, I would guess that all of Cruz’s WI delegates will desert him as soon as they can at the convention. Most will push to try and nominate Ryan (who is actually a nice guy, pretty sharp, but dead wrong on immigration).

    • Replies: @RamonaQ
    @Polynikes

    Tbh, I have always had a soft spot for Paul Ryan. I have always found his ideas for eradicating poverty and reforming entitlements to be sincere and admirable but just not suited to the present political climate. But he is a globalist through and through and his support for open borders is inexcusable.

    I also get the sense that he has understood the lessons of Trump's rise and, unlike much of the GOPe, has empathy with Trump's voters. Maybe I am reading too much into his speech, but I was impressed with how he admitted his politics had erred in the past.

    The tragedy of our current time is that genuinely decent, patriotic men like Ryan have bought into the disastrous globalist agenda due to their inability to accept the fundamental truths about the difference between races. Conservatism is utterly lost. He would have been a fine politician 70 years ago.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Polynikes

    "I think some are giving Cruz a harder time than he deserves . If Trump weren’t in the race, Cruz would be the ant-immigration, anti-establishment candidate. "

    Yeah, he would be the "anti-immigration" candidate who didn't even want to talk about immigration until Trump forced the issue on the campaign and who advocated quintupling the number of H1-B visas. He would be the "anti-establishment" candidate who worked in the Bush II administration, took a million dollars in loans from Goldman Sachs and Citibank to run for Senate and then lied about it, whose wife is a CFR member who advocates North American Union, and got a Goldman-Sachs job after her hubby was elected to the Senate.

    Cruz is every bit as much "of the establishment" as most other Republican party politicians. They just don't like him because he's a dick.

    "Immigration just isn’t on the radar."

    It is however in their schools and on their welfare rolls.

    , @Jefferson
    @Polynikes

    "Another commentator hit the nail on the head when they said that Wisconsin has a functioning Republican party so it was a mistake for Trump to attack them. In the last 6 years the local Republicans have accomplished some noteworthy reforms up here regarding unions, taxes, and the 2nd amendment. Immigration just isn’t on the radar."

    Immigration is not on their radar because there are not that many Hispanics in Wisconsin, 5 percent to be exact. There are more Norwegians in Wisconsin than there are Hispanics.

  210. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Trump just died tonight. This is the beginning of the end.

    The Cruz sex scandal is hogwash.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Mr. Anon, @epebble, @Boethius, @Anon

    The former lawyer (Sibley) of that DC Madam (you know, the one who hanged herself) is attempting to release names from the client list. To quote, “Time is of the essence because people are casting votes in primaries and caucuses. I believe this information is relevant to that political discourse.” Who do you suppose he means? Hillary? Kasich? Sanders? Trump?

    • Replies: @Andie Freud
    @Anon

    Beat me by that much. Damn iPad.

    Release the black book, the rest of the panama papers and the 28 pages. Enquiring minds...

  211. Big deal, Wisconsin is apparently full of hipster fags (and blax in Milwaukee) and the “conservatives” there are Paul Ryan types.

  212. @Twinkie
    @TangoMan


    People ragged on Palin but I defended her because I had actually seen her demonstrate mastery on Alaska’s energy politics, so I knew she could go deep on policy and perform her job and once schooled on other topics could do the same. I’m not seeing even unschooled Palin, winging it, kind of policy mastery from Trump.
     
    I was a big fan of Palin before she was nominated as the GOP VP candidate, but I was of the school that she should have gone for that senate seat, develop a policy niche (and gravitas) and then go for the big prize. She was a great raw political talent, showed great deal of grit and principles in taking on the Alaska Establishment, but alas she took the easy way out and avoided the kind of candidate development that would have made her the real thing.

    I agree 100% on your assessment of Trump on policy.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    If only Palin had followed Maggie Thatcher’s example and gotten some voice coaching. She has the weirdest, most jangling voice on the political landscape. I cringe every time she begins to speak.

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    @Harry Baldwin

    Gosh, I though Palin's funny accent and vocal inflections were part of her charm.

    Palin biggest fault was allow herself to being roped into trying to save from drowning that boat anchor known as than McCain.

    Palin's charm is that she is joyously resilient. Nothing that Letterman, Tina Fey or for that matter "Lisa Ann" tried to toss at her seemed to stick for long.

    Would I want Palin as President or VP? No. But I would prefer her to Hildabeast, Rubio and Cruz.

    On second thought perhaps I should have said, "Nothing tossed at "Lisa Ann" ever stuck to Palin".

  213. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @Anonymous
    @LondonBob

    Really do not see how any of this makes a difference, white people will still be gone from North America unless they can win a nature preserve for themselves, electing Trump is as effective as using a teaspoon to empty the world's oceans.

    Replies: @The most deplorable one

    electing Trump is as effective as using a teaspoon to empty the world’s oceans.

    Well, it’s more effective that electing another member of the Clinton Crime Syndicate or any of the other traitors, unless your goal is to let the blood flow.

    It does seem like we are headed for a civil war and it is going to be more bloody this time around. There are a lot of scores to be settled.

  214. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @TangoMan
    @iSteveFan

    Everyone else has a personality like drying paint, so they're not going to get coverage. Trump is newsworthy in his own right and so gets coverage one way or the other, the problem is that Trump is shooting himself in the foot so damn often that the coverage he was going to get anyway gets diverted onto his cock-ups.

    It's these screw-ups which are playing a large part in alienating people who could/should vote for him. There are, essentially, two groups of opponents, those who disagree with what he's saying and those who think he's unfit for office. He could address the concerns of the latter group by showing that he can, indeed, master the nuance of policy. I was cutting him a lot of slack, I figured that he was bombastic in the beginning in order to clear the field, that this way buying him time to go deep on policy, to build up the campaign staff, and that we'd see a more in-depth Trump, but my patience is running thin.

    People ragged on Palin but I defended her because I had actually seen her demonstrate mastery on Alaska's energy politics, so I knew she could go deep on policy and perform her job and once schooled on other topics could do the same. I'm not seeing even unschooled Palin, winging it, kind of policy mastery from Trump. In the tread on Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos someone posted a video of her giving a presentation and the buzzwords were flying and that's what I'm seeing from Trump. I'd bet that there are hundreds of us in the Steve-o-sphere who could take his issues and clean the clocks of opponents who challenged his positions but Trump isn't doing that.

    Trump is going to get covered because he has a big personality and he's engaging. He'd be doing us all a favor if that coverage was focused on substance rather than tweeting pictures of Cruz's wife or alienating the pro-life crowd. Talk more about disbanding NATO. Show us that there is some damn thought behind the idea. Let's talk about what a post-NATO world would look like. That'll get lots of coverage. Talk about SCOTUS precedent for the Executive banning people from entering/immigrating to the US due to ideological positions and then make the case that Islam, religion of any kind, is simply a subset of a larger category we call ideology. Explain why the freedoms we extend to religion within the US do not have to be extended to people outside of our borders. I guarantee you that Trump talking about any of that is going to stir up controversy and will get lots of coverage but it will recast him to be a more substantive man instead of a boor.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Twinkie, @SteveO, @The most deplorable one

    Trump is going to get covered because he has a big personality and he’s engaging. He’d be doing us all a favor if that coverage was focused on substance rather than tweeting pictures of Cruz’s wife or alienating the pro-life crowd. Talk more about disbanding NATO. Show us that there is some damn thought behind the idea. Let’s talk about what a post-NATO world would look like.

    The majority of the US electorate are not policy wonks like you.

    The man has to have tactics appropriate to the electorate, especially this stage of winning against the GOPe.

  215. • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Pseudonymic Handle

    "OT: Jackie of Haven Monahan fame is in trouble:"

    I wonder why Jackie had to say her fake nonexistent rapists were all blonds? Couldn't she just leave it at them being all White? Why couldn't her fictional rapists be a pack of very dark haired Jon Hamm Mad Men types? But instead they all have to look like the blond villain Dwight from The Walking Dead.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  216. Here’s a question for Unz.com and Steve commenters:

    Who will you vote for in the general if Cruz gets the nomination?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @J1234

    "Here’s a question for Unz.com and Steve commenters:

    Who will you vote for in the general if Cruz gets the nomination?"

    Someone who is eligible for the office of President. So..............not Cruz.

    , @Flip
    @J1234

    Well, Cruz is rated A+ by the NRA and says he wants to deport illegals (but will probably fade on that) so he's got that going for him.

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @J1234

    I hadn't voted since 1991 but registered again to vote for Trump in the primary. (He won GA handily.) If he doesn't get it, I won't bother to vote.

    2016 is probably the last election where they'll bother to count the ballots, in any event.

    , @Travis
    @J1234

    probably will not bother to vote if Cruz is the nominee.....I have yet to vote for Republican or a democrat for President, usually voting Libertarian or not voting.

    But I would be shocked if Cruz gets the Nomination. The upcoming Priamries will strongly favor Trump , Cruz will get 0 delegates in upcoming April primaries - New York, CT, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Rhode Island and Maryland. Cruz will not win another state until Nebraska on May 10, over 30 days from today while Trump will have obtained another 255 delegates during this time , putting him over 1000 before he picks up another 200 from the West Coast and NJ on June 7.

    Trump will have over pledged 1200 delegates after June 7 and may need to convince 10% of the 200 unbounded delegates to get to 1237....but Cruz will arrive at the convention with under 600 delegates, hard to see how he gets Nominated. More likely they choose Romney or Ryan at the convention. None of the voters in Wisconsin wanted Cruz, they want Ryan and thus voted to weaken Trump.

    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @J1234

    Write in candidacy is always a doable thing. Or perhaps Trump himself will make good on his threat to run as a third party candidate. If he can get ca.40% of the popular vote in the Nov. election, he could win the presidency.

    Recall that Ross Perrot, a total unknown outside TX and DC halls of power prior to announcing his candidacy in '92 ran as a straight third party candidate and he received 19% of the vote. As Trump has run on the GOP party for the nomination for nearly ten months time, he should be expected to well double Perrot's popular vote total in November.

    Would Trump, running as a third party candidate receive ca.70% of the total white vote? Obviously not, BUT...if he can receive say ca.60% of the total white vote in a three candidate race, it could make the difference in winning the election.

    Run, Donald, run. Don't let them push you around. Nothing to lose if they try and steal the nomination from you.

    Wonder if Ann Coulter's column this evening will touch on these points.

    Hi, Ann!

  217. JsP says:

    Republican cucks deserve what they’re going to get: lyin’ Ted, another globalist hack funded by wall Street, meekly getting slaughtered by his fellow nominee from the davos party, Hillary Clinton.

    It’d be funnier if it weren’t so sad. A bunch of angry white men listening to talk radio and deciding the problem is not enough reverence for the Constitution. THE CONSTITUTION. yeah! that’s what we’re mad about it! lol cucks

    • Agree: Jack Hanson
    • Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)
    @JsP



    You seem to fail to see that the Constitution, if respected (which you apparently do not) would have kept Senor Cruz from running in the first place.

    The Constitution gives you the right to vent your opinions in this space. The Constitution keeps the cops from kicking down your doors and seizing your guns (if you have any). The Constitution gives you the right to remain silent in the police station and the right to an attorney thereafter. The Constitution says Obama must "take care that the laws be faithfully executed", and that includes the immigration laws. The Constitution evolved over centuries of struggle in England and America by brave and wise men to put a limit on the awesome and very dangerous powers of the State.

    No, it's not the "solution" to any and all political problems. But if you truly feel the need to sneer at something, please sneer at dead Marines or 9/11 victims or Old Glory first. That would do less damage.

  218. @Mr. Anon
    @Tiny Duck

    "Trump just died tonight. This is the beginning of the end."

    Nonsense. He will probably win New York and California. They're aren't many Colorados and Wisconsins left for Cruz to win in.

    "The Cruz sex scandal is hogwash."

    I don't think it is. I might be wrong of course. But I am still persuaded that it might be true. The National Enquirer has a pretty good record when it comes to reporting on the infidelities of politicians. At the least, I trust the National Enquirer more than I trust Ted Cruz.

    Replies: @Discordiax, @Discordiax, @Andie Freud

    I didn’t want to feed the duck, but since you threw him a crumb, I agree with you; nonsense. another puzzle piece – a Federal judge just blocked the release of the dc madam’s little black book client list on the grounds that it might influence the upcoming election. Now, which of the four remaining viable candidates are likely to be on the list? Ockham? Buehler? Anyone?

    “They” are sandbagging these multiple scandals to use against you-can-guess-who in the General election. The mud will fly; @someone should quit while his reputation is still intact. The senate is a great little hot-tub if you don’t mind the pee-smell.

    • Replies: @SteveO
    @Andie Freud


    Now, which of the four remaining viable candidates are likely to be on the list? Ockham? Buehler? Anyone?
     
    Answer: Any of the four, plus John Kasich and Bill Clinton. Deborah Jane Palfrey was arrested in 2006. Her service had been active in DC since approximately 1994. During that period:

    Ted Cruz was in DC, working for the Bush administration.
    Bernie Sanders was in the House.
    Donald Trump was anywhere he wanted to be.
    Ditto Bill and Hillary Clinton.
    John Kasich was in the House and then a commentator on Fox News. He had plenty of reasons to be in DC as often as he wanted.

    Thus, I don't get your point about Ockham. "More likely"? Honestly, I think the answer to that is Bill Clinton (about whom another scandal could finish his wife's campaign), followed by Donald Trump. Their past behavior puts them at the top of the list, although I admit Donald might have been less likely to bother with travel to DC for such a purpose.

    Why would Bernie be unlikely to be on the list? You don't think socialists get horny, too? Ted was a low-level figure compared to where he is today, but you don't have to be famous to hire a high-end escort, just have money. I don't know much about Kasich's personal life, but boys will be boys. Sometimes, girls will be, too ...

    You're acting like hiring a prostitute is some weird, rare thing. Men of all classes do it all the time. There's no reason except opportunity to rule in or rule out any of the candidates.
  219. @Twinkie
    @iSteveFan


    What states that Obama won does Cruz have a realistic chance of winning? I don’t even think Cruz can take back Florida or Virginia. And with his support for TPP I don’t he could win Ohio or PA.
     
    You overestimate Hillary Clinton's likability. Cruz is smarter, better at debates, and is more disciplined than Clinton.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @iSteveFan, @5371, @Not sure

    You overestimate the importance of being “better at debates.” The point of debates is not to prove your ideas are better. The fraction of the audience capable of following that logic has made their minds up already. The point of having a debate is that it gives you a chance to create a moment that shows your strength and your opponent’s weakness in a memorable way that gets through to the persuadable/not-too-bright voters out there. It should be obvious that Trump can play that game better than twerpy Cruz.

  220. @Jefferson
    @Twinkie

    "Maybe. But Trump is turning off married women in droves. And when the GOP loses married women, it does very poorly. Cruz doesn’t have to attract Democrats to win."

    If Donald Trump can't even win over a female Far Right Winger like Dana Loesch who owns as many if not more guns than Ted Nugent, how will he fare among more moderate middle of the road female voters?

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist, @Maj. Kong, @Mr. Anon

    “If Donald Trump can’t even win over a female Far Right Winger like Dana Loesch who owns as many if not more guns than Ted Nugent, how will he fare among more moderate middle of the road female voters?”

    Dana Loesch works for Glenn Beck. She is not the only conservative gun-friendly woman in America

  221. JZ says:

    A few things to consider:

    Cruz has no chance of winning the general election. If Clinton is his opponent he could lose 90% of the states. Sanders can only win if Clinton is indicted and I’m not seeing that happening. If she does go down then Cruz will still lose, albeit we’d see a much closer contest, but blue wall dynamics would sink Cruz.

    Trump is the only viable candidate against Clinton. See Ann Coulter’s piece from last week on why this is so. He is the only candidate on the Republican side who can legitimately penetrate the so called blue wall. If a miracle were to occur and Cruz got the nomination you can bet the farm his lurid sexcapades would be front and center along with his dubious citizenship.

    Last evening could well be Cruz’s last meaningful win. The remaining states line up strongly for Trump. It’ s shaping up to the showdown in California, which others here have a better handle on than me. My guess is that Trump will win there but I’m not as familiar with Republican politics there as I was in the past.

    Trump needs to improve his ground game. The attack ads against him are taking their toll and he has to be able to answer them outside of social media especially in the general election. And approaching the convention he needs to be able to auger against this establishment onslaught against him. No matter what you read or hear there’s absolutely no way the establishment can get away with screwing him at the convention if he’s within 50 to 100 delegates it just isn’t going to happen but it makes for good copy during dry news cycles. But Trump can avoid all chances of this contested convention happening by getting an effective ground game going which is going to include money being spent on advertising from here forward.

  222. Trump had an amazing opportunity after the Brussels attack to expand his base. His comments resonated with almost everyone except the most braindead lefties. He blew it by starting a pointless feud over Heidi Cruz.

    I’m trying to remember that everything Trump has done is beyond what any of us would ever have imagined. He has made immigration restrictionism and protectionism mainstream issues and they will have to be part of the GOP platform going forward.

    But it is soulcrushingly disappointing to realize he is simply not up to the challenge. It’s not surprising since the skillsets of a shameless taboo breaker have very few overlaps with those of a smart consolidater.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @RamonaQ

    It's been a heroic adventure.

  223. @Harry Baldwin
    @Twinkie

    If only Palin had followed Maggie Thatcher's example and gotten some voice coaching. She has the weirdest, most jangling voice on the political landscape. I cringe every time she begins to speak.

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist

    Gosh, I though Palin’s funny accent and vocal inflections were part of her charm.

    Palin biggest fault was allow herself to being roped into trying to save from drowning that boat anchor known as than McCain.

    Palin’s charm is that she is joyously resilient. Nothing that Letterman, Tina Fey or for that matter “Lisa Ann” tried to toss at her seemed to stick for long.

    Would I want Palin as President or VP? No. But I would prefer her to Hildabeast, Rubio and Cruz.

    On second thought perhaps I should have said, “Nothing tossed at “Lisa Ann” ever stuck to Palin”.

  224. @J1234
    Here's a question for Unz.com and Steve commenters:

    Who will you vote for in the general if Cruz gets the nomination?

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Flip, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Travis, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    “Here’s a question for Unz.com and Steve commenters:

    Who will you vote for in the general if Cruz gets the nomination?”

    Someone who is eligible for the office of President. So…………..not Cruz.

  225. @Polynikes
    I'm surprised at the large margin, but not at all that Cruz won. People underestimate the level that Wisconsin is establishment, anti-abortion Republicans. Cruz came out and said he's against abortion in the case of rape. That sunk two tea party Senate candidates in 12. Didn't even make the news here.

    Wisconsin is over 90% white. They don't feel the need for immigration reform. Talk Radio is huge up here, but you never hear them mention it. I argued with a Walker staffer at a bar this past summer about it... immigration wasn't even on their radar.

    Trump's biggest mistake was blasting Walker and the state Republicans up here over Walker's tepid endorsement of Cruz (Walker never said a bad word about Trump publicly). Trump tried saying they should have raised taxes (wtf?) when Wisconsin is one of the ten most tax heavy states in the country. The whole state Republican party was elected in to power on a lower taxes platform a few years ago. A dumb move by Trump that almost cost him my vote... it took me a couple days to move past that idiotic remark.

    Still... I'm a little surprised that Cruz almost got 50%.

    Replies: @5371

    Wisconsin was only 83% non-Hispanic white, even in 2010.

  226. @Polynikes
    After reading through the comments, I wanted to add another point.

    I think some are giving Cruz a harder time than he deserves . If Trump weren't in the race, Cruz would be the ant-immigration, anti-establishment candidate.

    Wisconsin isn't really backing Cruz, so much as stopping Trump. I had more than one high ranking party member tell me that Cruz was ineligible for office due to the birth thing. The talk radio guys have not endorsed Cruz. One, Charlie Sykes, has even said he doesn't like Cruz, but he urged everyone to vote for him to stop Trump.

    Another commentator hit the nail on the head when they said that Wisconsin has a functioning Republican party so it was a mistake for Trump to attack them. In the last 6 years the local Republicans have accomplished some noteworthy reforms up here regarding unions, taxes, and the 2nd amendment. Immigration just isn't on the radar.

    FWIW, I would guess that all of Cruz's WI delegates will desert him as soon as they can at the convention. Most will push to try and nominate Ryan (who is actually a nice guy, pretty sharp, but dead wrong on immigration).

    Replies: @RamonaQ, @Mr. Anon, @Jefferson

    Tbh, I have always had a soft spot for Paul Ryan. I have always found his ideas for eradicating poverty and reforming entitlements to be sincere and admirable but just not suited to the present political climate. But he is a globalist through and through and his support for open borders is inexcusable.

    I also get the sense that he has understood the lessons of Trump’s rise and, unlike much of the GOPe, has empathy with Trump’s voters. Maybe I am reading too much into his speech, but I was impressed with how he admitted his politics had erred in the past.

    The tragedy of our current time is that genuinely decent, patriotic men like Ryan have bought into the disastrous globalist agenda due to their inability to accept the fundamental truths about the difference between races. Conservatism is utterly lost. He would have been a fine politician 70 years ago.

  227. @Polynikes
    After reading through the comments, I wanted to add another point.

    I think some are giving Cruz a harder time than he deserves . If Trump weren't in the race, Cruz would be the ant-immigration, anti-establishment candidate.

    Wisconsin isn't really backing Cruz, so much as stopping Trump. I had more than one high ranking party member tell me that Cruz was ineligible for office due to the birth thing. The talk radio guys have not endorsed Cruz. One, Charlie Sykes, has even said he doesn't like Cruz, but he urged everyone to vote for him to stop Trump.

    Another commentator hit the nail on the head when they said that Wisconsin has a functioning Republican party so it was a mistake for Trump to attack them. In the last 6 years the local Republicans have accomplished some noteworthy reforms up here regarding unions, taxes, and the 2nd amendment. Immigration just isn't on the radar.

    FWIW, I would guess that all of Cruz's WI delegates will desert him as soon as they can at the convention. Most will push to try and nominate Ryan (who is actually a nice guy, pretty sharp, but dead wrong on immigration).

    Replies: @RamonaQ, @Mr. Anon, @Jefferson

    “I think some are giving Cruz a harder time than he deserves . If Trump weren’t in the race, Cruz would be the ant-immigration, anti-establishment candidate. ”

    Yeah, he would be the “anti-immigration” candidate who didn’t even want to talk about immigration until Trump forced the issue on the campaign and who advocated quintupling the number of H1-B visas. He would be the “anti-establishment” candidate who worked in the Bush II administration, took a million dollars in loans from Goldman Sachs and Citibank to run for Senate and then lied about it, whose wife is a CFR member who advocates North American Union, and got a Goldman-Sachs job after her hubby was elected to the Senate.

    Cruz is every bit as much “of the establishment” as most other Republican party politicians. They just don’t like him because he’s a dick.

    “Immigration just isn’t on the radar.”

    It is however in their schools and on their welfare rolls.

  228. @t
    Kevin Drum says teachers are all racist:

    http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/04/white-teachers-think-pretty-poorly-their-black-students

    Replies: @carol

    Gee, with the general – what, cuckiness? – of teachers, you’d think they would go out of their way to think highly of their black students. It’s almost as if experience were instructing them otherwise.

  229. Eustace Tilley (not) [AKA "Schiller/Nietzsche"] says:
    @JsP
    Republican cucks deserve what they're going to get: lyin' Ted, another globalist hack funded by wall Street, meekly getting slaughtered by his fellow nominee from the davos party, Hillary Clinton.

    It'd be funnier if it weren't so sad. A bunch of angry white men listening to talk radio and deciding the problem is not enough reverence for the Constitution. THE CONSTITUTION. yeah! that's what we're mad about it! lol cucks

    Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)

    You seem to fail to see that the Constitution, if respected (which you apparently do not) would have kept Senor Cruz from running in the first place.

    The Constitution gives you the right to vent your opinions in this space. The Constitution keeps the cops from kicking down your doors and seizing your guns (if you have any). The Constitution gives you the right to remain silent in the police station and the right to an attorney thereafter. The Constitution says Obama must “take care that the laws be faithfully executed”, and that includes the immigration laws. The Constitution evolved over centuries of struggle in England and America by brave and wise men to put a limit on the awesome and very dangerous powers of the State.

    No, it’s not the “solution” to any and all political problems. But if you truly feel the need to sneer at something, please sneer at dead Marines or 9/11 victims or Old Glory first. That would do less damage.

  230. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:

    Meanwhile, Mississippi says it’s not going to be brow-beaten by the LGBT mafia:

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2016/04/mississippi-stands-firm.html

  231. @J1234
    Here's a question for Unz.com and Steve commenters:

    Who will you vote for in the general if Cruz gets the nomination?

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Flip, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Travis, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Well, Cruz is rated A+ by the NRA and says he wants to deport illegals (but will probably fade on that) so he’s got that going for him.

  232. @Boethius
    @Tiny Duck

    What scandal? Ted Cruz supposedly had sex with a some Washington staffwomen, according to National Enquirer? They got nothin'. It's irrelevant even if it's true.

    Replies: @Pericles, @Mr. Anon, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    “It’s irrelevant even if it’s true.”

    Democrats can push that line about Bill Clinton. A full-on bible-waving “body-of-christ” Republican can’t really get away with that. He can’t tell his supporters that his infidelities are irrelevant (if the story should prove to be true). And he certainly won’t be given a pass on it by the Democrats.

  233. @iSteveFan
    Wisconsin Sucks

    Replies: @International Jew, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    Way to go Dahmer country, you cheesetards with your low-IQ governor have kept alive the hope for open borders, endless wars, economic sodomizing by the globalists, et al.

  234. Everyone knows the culture war is over and the left won. A guy who attends rallies with a pastor who calls for the execution of all homosexuals would be a guaranteed disaster in the general.

  235. @Boethius
    @Tiny Duck

    What scandal? Ted Cruz supposedly had sex with a some Washington staffwomen, according to National Enquirer? They got nothin'. It's irrelevant even if it's true.

    Replies: @Pericles, @Mr. Anon, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    If it’s true, it’s totally relevant if (like Cruz) you have been presenting yourself as the evangelical candidate the whole time.

  236. @Anonymous
    @iSteveFan

    Icahn is an infamous corporate raider from the 80s. He's the type responsible for the economic devastation of the country over the past 40 years. If you think Romney business career was bad, this guy was a million times worse and started the rot.

    Trump brings up Icahn because Icahn bailed out Trump's casion and other assets when he went bankrupt.

    Replies: @EriK

    Nonsense.

  237. @J1234
    Here's a question for Unz.com and Steve commenters:

    Who will you vote for in the general if Cruz gets the nomination?

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Flip, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Travis, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    I hadn’t voted since 1991 but registered again to vote for Trump in the primary. (He won GA handily.) If he doesn’t get it, I won’t bother to vote.

    2016 is probably the last election where they’ll bother to count the ballots, in any event.

  238. It’s very hard to beat The System. That’s why it’s called The System.

    • Agree: NOTA
  239. @J1234
    Here's a question for Unz.com and Steve commenters:

    Who will you vote for in the general if Cruz gets the nomination?

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Flip, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Travis, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    probably will not bother to vote if Cruz is the nominee…..I have yet to vote for Republican or a democrat for President, usually voting Libertarian or not voting.

    But I would be shocked if Cruz gets the Nomination. The upcoming Priamries will strongly favor Trump , Cruz will get 0 delegates in upcoming April primaries – New York, CT, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Rhode Island and Maryland. Cruz will not win another state until Nebraska on May 10, over 30 days from today while Trump will have obtained another 255 delegates during this time , putting him over 1000 before he picks up another 200 from the West Coast and NJ on June 7.

    Trump will have over pledged 1200 delegates after June 7 and may need to convince 10% of the 200 unbounded delegates to get to 1237….but Cruz will arrive at the convention with under 600 delegates, hard to see how he gets Nominated. More likely they choose Romney or Ryan at the convention. None of the voters in Wisconsin wanted Cruz, they want Ryan and thus voted to weaken Trump.

  240. @Anon
    @Tiny Duck

    The former lawyer (Sibley) of that DC Madam (you know, the one who hanged herself) is attempting to release names from the client list. To quote, "Time is of the essence because people are casting votes in primaries and caucuses. I believe this information is relevant to that political discourse.” Who do you suppose he means? Hillary? Kasich? Sanders? Trump?

    Replies: @Andie Freud

    Beat me by that much. Damn iPad.

    Release the black book, the rest of the panama papers and the 28 pages. Enquiring minds…

  241. Once again, William Jennings Bryan-Cruz has won a state in the Plains Region. Add to that his win in North Dakota (Mt. Region) and this wasn’t really much of a surprise. WI hasn’t voted GOP in the November election for quite a few decades.

    Now it is onto some Northeastern and Southern primaries.

  242. @J1234
    Here's a question for Unz.com and Steve commenters:

    Who will you vote for in the general if Cruz gets the nomination?

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Flip, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Travis, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Write in candidacy is always a doable thing. Or perhaps Trump himself will make good on his threat to run as a third party candidate. If he can get ca.40% of the popular vote in the Nov. election, he could win the presidency.

    Recall that Ross Perrot, a total unknown outside TX and DC halls of power prior to announcing his candidacy in ’92 ran as a straight third party candidate and he received 19% of the vote. As Trump has run on the GOP party for the nomination for nearly ten months time, he should be expected to well double Perrot’s popular vote total in November.

    Would Trump, running as a third party candidate receive ca.70% of the total white vote? Obviously not, BUT…if he can receive say ca.60% of the total white vote in a three candidate race, it could make the difference in winning the election.

    Run, Donald, run. Don’t let them push you around. Nothing to lose if they try and steal the nomination from you.

    Wonder if Ann Coulter’s column this evening will touch on these points.

    Hi, Ann!

  243. @Lagertha
    @epebble

    exactly. Finland had 7 parties in the early 2000's...now 8. More parties are a boon. As an independent, I have always hated the American system since I am utterly liberal in social policies but utterly conservative with fiscal/international/security/immigration/ policies.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @celt darnell

    I agree with Twinkie’s response to you.

    The end of the two-party system in the UK, from the Whig-Tory divide in the Eighteenth and Nineteenth centuries to the Labour-Conservative divide in the 20th has been a disaster.

    We’ve been in trouble in the UK for some time now, but ever since we’ve followed the Europeans down the multi-party path we’ve really gone down the toilet. I would strongly urge the US never to go down that road.

    The reality is that despite the constant complaints by Americans that the Republicans and Democrats are basically the same, the two American parties are far more different from each other than the Continental European ones are.

    When people vote, they’re voting as much against as for — and the two party system means both are usually a broad coalition of interests. A bunch of single-issue parties makes it easier to isolate and ignore “fringe” views.

    It’s also actually easier for the Social Justice Warriors (SJW) to hijack several parties than just one — in the present-day UK, the Scottish Nationalists, Welsh Nationalists, (Northern) Irish Nationalists, Liberal Democrats, Greens and Labour are all SJW parties. So are, I would argue, the Tories. That leaves UKIP with one seat in the House of Commons — them and the Ulster Unionists — as the only anti-SJW party. Pretty much a clean sweep, then, for the SJW.

    We were better off with just a SJW Labour Party and an anti-SJW Conservative Party.

    For the record, I’m not saying the two-party system can’t ossify — and the combined GOP/DEM collaboration on open-door immigration is an example of this. But just as the Federalists and the Whigs went the way the of the dinosaurs, the same thing is likely to happen to the Republicans. Because either the Republican party moves in the direction of Trump’s anti-immigrant, anti invade the world/invite the world, oligarchy-loving present incarnation or it disappears.

    Much better the Dems end up facing a united America First Party than a fragmented collection of opposition parties — many of which will, sooner or later, be SJW dominated.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @celt darnell

    I get what you're saying, BUT :) USA needs a 3rd party of some kind because for someone like me (and there are many who believe this) who is socially liberal (I'm fine with abortions, LGBT, am a proponent of assisted suicide, or just plain suicide; believe in public schools, libraries, decent roads, airports that run efficiently, bridges that don't fall down, public transportation, public beaches, ASPCA, clean food free of GMO's, clean water,focus on the environment and animal/plant welfare, single-payer health insurance....many things) and fiscally conservative; there is NO party for me.

    I also don't want any more wars in the middle-east, don't want build-up of American military in the world, am skeptical about the efficacy of the UN (duh), want to cease sending money to many countries who hate the USA, want to scale-back NATO; steadfastly believe in global climate change and severe ecological degradation at the hands of human population explosion (the sh*tloads of plastic swerling around the oceans , for instance - stuff I mentioned a year ago); I want restricted immigration, scrutiny of visas, no more H1B visa storm troopers, and, lastly, I don't want to talk about religion at all - religion of all kinds, is out-of-bounds of public policy. I don't like religiosity to seep into any public business/policy. I belong to a church, but it is my private life.

    Your very detailed post, however, showcases how different England is (than my Finland which I referred to in my original post) and all the various camps within England that seem divided by micro-ethnic groups/cultures/traditions or regions going back generations/centuries. Finland does not have so many variegated identity groups within its region, like UK. Finland's parties: National Coalition Party, Social Democratic Party, Left Alliance, Center Party, Green Party, Finns Party, Swedish People's Party, and the Pirate Party! (personal favorite of my son in name only!) The Communist Party fell apart,(big-time duh:) after USSR collapsed.

    Lastly, SJWs have a hard time with an alpha female like me...I have had many tedious discussions with "the type" for decades. That's why, in a few years, I will retreat to deep nature as retirement calls! I just want to ski, hike, ride and smell the wildflowers, read books and surf. My sons will be well on their way; am so proud of them.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Twinkie, @celt darnell

  244. @Cwhatfuture
    The women in my family find Cruz repulsive and reptilian. These are GOP voters. I see what they mean. He looks in-bred to me. Every time he speaks I expect him to take a banjo out and begin playing the theme from Deliverance.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anonymous, @Pat Gilligan, @DWB

    When I see Cruz, I think less of the toothless in-breds of “Deliverance,” and more of the grotesque Oswald Cobblepot of “Batman Returns.”

  245. @TangoMan
    @International Jew

    Trump is his own worst enemy but I'm not seeing any other option for change.

    The Republicans are intent on Hispanic outreach but how, exactly, do they achieve this without going the racial bribes route? If Trump loses the powers that be will treat that as a voter repudiation of his agenda and they'll feel empowered to go full steam ahead with amnesty and other racial bribes which they think will work to bring in Hispanics.

    Also repudiated is white identity as a basis for a political movement. What follows is the racial bribes business comes at the expense of whites, in a who, whom contest.

    Everyday I wish there was a candidate other than Trump who was positioned with his popularity, independence and positions, but there isn't and because Trump's candidacy is such a black swan event, I can't see a path forward for a more typical politician who will have to depend on funding in order to get air time, so institutional interests are always going to be favored.

    It's Trump or bust. There is no upside to any other candidate and society is going to have to be more destabilized before institutional interests can be brought around to some of Trump's policies. I saw a report today that 70% of voters supported the Muslim ban. Trump is the only one who is independent enough to actually dare put something like that in place.

    Trump may well flake if he gets into office, but that's a better outcome than not getting into office, for his defeat repudiates his policies, while his reneging on the policies doesn't undermine their validity and appeal, the reneging simply becomes a reflection of Trump, the man, not the policy agenda he ran on.

    Replies: @Yeah, @asks for it, @AndrewR

    “Trump’s candidacy is such a black swan event”

    He has also exemplified Taleb’s notion of anti-fragility. Can it last?

  246. C says:
    @Boethius
    @iSteveFan

    Let's hope he loses asap so we still have the chance to nominate Ted Cruz who will beat Hillary Clinton instead of Donald Trump, who won't.

    Replies: @C

    I’m curious as to why you think Cruz could beat Hillary.

    It can’t be the polls. General election polls mean nothing right now. No one seriously believes John Kasich would win the general, which is what they are saying.

    If Cruz “wins” the nomination at the convention, a huge swath of Trump voters will stay home as they’ll feel Trump has been screwed (and he will have been screwed). They’ll rightly feel like the GOP doesn’t care about their vote.

    On top of that, it will be easy for the MSM and Hillary to smack Cruz around on all his policy positions in which he has basically flopped from globalist to nationalist to copy Trump. Working class whites (and to a lesser extent minorities) aren’t going to vote for Mr. TPP himself.

    And oh, by the way, if you think Trump screwed up on abortion and alienated women, just wait until Hillary goes all in on Cruz. At least Trump said Planned Parenthood should be funded outside of abortion.

    And that doesn’t even get into his wife working for Goldman Sachs, possible sex scandal, birther arguments, etc.

    The only thing that Cruz POSSIBLY has going for him is the election of Supreme Court justices. However, its unlikely that a lot of working class Trump voters are going to care about that that much to actually vote for the guy who stole their vote.

    Trump is the only possible nominee who can beat Hillary.

    • Replies: @Boethius
    @C

    "It can’t be the polls. General election polls mean nothing right now. No one seriously believes John Kasich would win the general, which is what they are saying."

    I don't want to raise needless antagonism, but it seems to me that this is wrong and stupid. Of course John Kasich would win the general election.

    But the overall point is ridiculous. I can't think of a recent cycle where the polls at this point of the year were meaningless. They weren't. They aren't.

    But the delusion is even worse, because there's an implicit sense that The Donald's weakness as a general election candidate is limited to this week's polls, which of course is ridiculous in its own right. Among other things, there's the reality that Donald's approval among women is 20 some percent. And most importantly, there's no reason to think that he'll be able to rally from where he is now, and lots of reasons to think he will deflate even further.

  247. @Stan d Mute
    @Matra


    Earlier tonight someone on Fox said only 5% of voters in Wisconsin consider immigration their most important issue. It must be infuriating to whites blessed with diversity to see how clueless and selfish other white people can be.
     
    That's really it isn't it? I was going to suggest "stupid" in place of "clueless" but what really is the difference - the net result is the same. You've got the brain dead Thumpers who think Rafael is "anointed" and for whom no amount of American blood and treasure is too much expended on Israel/Zion. These folks have a room temperature IQ and can't quite grasp that relitigating Roe v Wade while the crony capitalists and televangelists Hoover up every last shred of wealth from middle America is a self-defeating strategy. And of course the "selfish" who are doing the Hoovering and depositing mind-boggling sums are certainly not going to derail their own gravy train. As long as there are still rubes with liquid assets to grab, they'll keep promoting their "Look, rabbit!" misdirection which has served them so well for the past half century.

    The die has been cast and the rules of the game won't change. Long after the coming economic collapse, when the best career in America is scrap metal collecting, the oligarch "conservative" donor class will still be pimping "conservative" candidates running against homo marriage and demanding a couple more US aircraft carrier groups in the Persian gulf and eastern Med. The "clueless" will be handling snakes, speaking in tongues, and wearing magical underwear while waving American flags and proudly sending their kids off to die in the desert while casting their latest vote for the latest "anointed" candidate. Who cares about national debt or having a job when you just know that any second now your messiah will appear to hand you your own golden ticket to eternal Disneyland?

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Brutal but accurate. It’s amazing how bible beaters are so easy to dupe. Then again the Democrat base is also full of dupes of a different flavor. Humans are very dupeable.

  248. @TangoMan
    @International Jew

    Trump is his own worst enemy but I'm not seeing any other option for change.

    The Republicans are intent on Hispanic outreach but how, exactly, do they achieve this without going the racial bribes route? If Trump loses the powers that be will treat that as a voter repudiation of his agenda and they'll feel empowered to go full steam ahead with amnesty and other racial bribes which they think will work to bring in Hispanics.

    Also repudiated is white identity as a basis for a political movement. What follows is the racial bribes business comes at the expense of whites, in a who, whom contest.

    Everyday I wish there was a candidate other than Trump who was positioned with his popularity, independence and positions, but there isn't and because Trump's candidacy is such a black swan event, I can't see a path forward for a more typical politician who will have to depend on funding in order to get air time, so institutional interests are always going to be favored.

    It's Trump or bust. There is no upside to any other candidate and society is going to have to be more destabilized before institutional interests can be brought around to some of Trump's policies. I saw a report today that 70% of voters supported the Muslim ban. Trump is the only one who is independent enough to actually dare put something like that in place.

    Trump may well flake if he gets into office, but that's a better outcome than not getting into office, for his defeat repudiates his policies, while his reneging on the policies doesn't undermine their validity and appeal, the reneging simply becomes a reflection of Trump, the man, not the policy agenda he ran on.

    Replies: @Yeah, @asks for it, @AndrewR

    Bernie has had a great deal of success without self-funding. Do you think he is bought off? Obviously the Wall Street types hate him but I could see Soros and similar (((globalists))) supporting him. Bernie’s capitulation to BLM terrorists shows he is not exceptionally principled.

  249. @Andie Freud
    @Mr. Anon

    I didn't want to feed the duck, but since you threw him a crumb, I agree with you; nonsense. another puzzle piece - a Federal judge just blocked the release of the dc madam's little black book client list on the grounds that it might influence the upcoming election. Now, which of the four remaining viable candidates are likely to be on the list? Ockham? Buehler? Anyone?

    "They" are sandbagging these multiple scandals to use against you-can-guess-who in the General election. The mud will fly; @someone should quit while his reputation is still intact. The senate is a great little hot-tub if you don't mind the pee-smell.

    Replies: @SteveO

    Now, which of the four remaining viable candidates are likely to be on the list? Ockham? Buehler? Anyone?

    Answer: Any of the four, plus John Kasich and Bill Clinton. Deborah Jane Palfrey was arrested in 2006. Her service had been active in DC since approximately 1994. During that period:

    Ted Cruz was in DC, working for the Bush administration.
    Bernie Sanders was in the House.
    Donald Trump was anywhere he wanted to be.
    Ditto Bill and Hillary Clinton.
    John Kasich was in the House and then a commentator on Fox News. He had plenty of reasons to be in DC as often as he wanted.

    Thus, I don’t get your point about Ockham. “More likely”? Honestly, I think the answer to that is Bill Clinton (about whom another scandal could finish his wife’s campaign), followed by Donald Trump. Their past behavior puts them at the top of the list, although I admit Donald might have been less likely to bother with travel to DC for such a purpose.

    Why would Bernie be unlikely to be on the list? You don’t think socialists get horny, too? Ted was a low-level figure compared to where he is today, but you don’t have to be famous to hire a high-end escort, just have money. I don’t know much about Kasich’s personal life, but boys will be boys. Sometimes, girls will be, too …

    You’re acting like hiring a prostitute is some weird, rare thing. Men of all classes do it all the time. There’s no reason except opportunity to rule in or rule out any of the candidates.

  250. @JimB
    In Wisconsin, Trump did all the heavy lifting for Cruz by affirming that he was the Establishment GOP candidate. WI is RINO central for a reason. All those small family owned farms which make up a large part of the state GOP political ecosystem are usually on the winning end of really bad international trade deals. Yeah, Illinois may lose Caterpillar Tractor to Mexico but WI gets to export all their soy, ginseng, and cheese to China and Japan.

    Janesville voted Paul Ryan into office and kept him there. Enough said.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Asians import Wisconsin ginseng and soy??? What????

  251. @Fidelios Automata
    I don't care what they say. Cruz is a Canadian!

    Replies: @AndrewR

    He’s a Canarian-Cuban-Canadian-Irish-Italian-Texan-American evangelicuck Zionist.

  252. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Are these events (Sea Island meeting and Michelle Fields’ allegations) related?

    The weekend of March 5 & 6 – Republican big shots and others convene at Sea Island, GA apparently to discuss how to “Stop Trump.”

    Tues., March 8 – Michelle Fields’ boyfriend, Jamie Weinstein, tweets: “Trump always surrounds himself w thugs. Tonight thug Corey Lewandowski tried to pull my gf @MichelleFields to ground when she asked tough q”.

    Thurs., March 10 – Michelle Fields posts an article on Breitbart.com describing how Corey Lewandowski purportedly grabbed her arm in a manner rough enough to cause it to bruise.

    Fri., March 11 – The Independent Journal reported that Fields filed a criminal complaint against Lewandowski in Jupiter, Florida.

    Tues., March 29 – Jupiter Police charge Lewandowski with misdemeanor simple battery.

    Since the meeting and Michelle Fields’ allegations, Trump’s campaign has stumbled, his poll numbers have fallen, and Cruz has gotten stronger. Was this by design?

    • Replies: @Boethius
    @Anonymous

    I can't see why they would be. Michelle Fields was a pro-Trump reporter working for a pro-Trump outlet. It's ridiculous how for some people here any action by any Republican automatically is assumed to be some kind of sellout, open borders, globalist, permanent war for Israel blah blah blah.

    Except for Donald Trump. For him, the Michelle Fields of the world, the students of Trump University the people who think he's going to spend money on the campaign, can't seem to register at all.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  253. @iSteveFan
    @TangoMan


    No Republican is ever treated like Obama, so let’s not spend time on trying to attain that outcome.
     
    Forget Obama. What about Bernie? What about Kasich? What about Cruz? None of them has endured what Trump has endured.

    Replies: @TangoMan, @AndrewR

    None of them are the front runners and the establishment would prefer any of them to Trump. Bernie and Cruz are very malleable.

  254. @Hepp
    Josh Barro tweeted something very interesting today. The Republican primary was actually easy to predict all along if you just went with the polls. Saying that Trump can win the general because everyone doubted he'd win the primary assumes a change in the polls.

    I fear the man might be too damaged to win.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @CommentGuy, @Kevin O'Keeffe, @Olorin

    Josh Barro tweeted something very interesting today. The Republican primary was actually easy to predict all along if you just went with the polls. Saying that Trump can win the general because everyone doubted he’d win the primary assumes a change in the polls.

    I don’t know who will win the Presidency, but I do know one thing for absolutely certain: The polls will change, one way or another, between now and Election Day in November. So a projected outcome based on the idea of April polling data remaining static for the duration, has no value what-so-ever.

  255. @epebble
    @Tiny Duck

    If the pattern continues, he may lose in Indiana (May 3rd) and Nebraska (May 10). So, it likely will end in open convention.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    He’s weaker in states with fewer immigrants. Unless they’re states, like Michigan, where the reason for fewer immigrants is a sick local economy.

    • Replies: @Bert
    @Reg Cæsar

    Trump is weaker in those states because the voters there place a high value on personality, likeability, and old fashioned grassroots politicking. He's absolutely failed to try to improve his image or attempt to pay for a real organization and it's completely hurt him.

  256. @Another Canadian
    @Alice


    Wisconsites don’t like big city bombastic types to come and insult their guy.

     

    I worked on a job outside Milwaukee for 9 months back in the 90s. The people were very nice, low conflict get-along types, a lot like the WASP in-laws in My Big Fat Greek Wedding. Bundt cakes and potted plants and always use your inside voice. It was the only time in all my travels that I had a visit from the Welcome Wagon, bringing a basket of goodies provided by the local merchants. I thought there was a good fit between Cheese-Heads and Canadians...similar personalities, outlook on life and worldview, a very Northern European Social Democratic point of view.

    Maybe when the U.S. has its inevitable crack-up Wisconsin will become a Canadian province.

    Replies: @SteveO

    The people were very nice, low conflict get-along types, a lot like the WASP in-laws in My Big Fat Greek Wedding. Bundt cakes and potted plants and always use your inside voice. It was the only time in all my travels that I had a visit from the Welcome Wagon, bringing a basket of goodies provided by the local merchants. I thought there was a good fit between Cheese-Heads and Canadians…similar personalities, outlook on life and worldview, a very Northern European Social Democratic point of view.

    There’s a lot of Wisconsin-bashing going on here today, but by this description it sounds like a wonderful place. Of course, so does Canada, which would be a great place to live if it wasn’t for their crazy social policies.

  257. I have always thought Clinton’s mass support is soft. She started with a massive advantage (again), this time over Sanders, and after her successful southern strategy run of victories, him still being in with a chance of coming back shows she can’t easily impress against a man (again). I said it before, Bernie’s people will be entranced by the prospect of one of their own getting this close to the White House and he grew up in NYC. Sanders is at least different to Clinton as Trump to Cruz, so don’t think Hillary can count on Sanders’s support after a brutal contest for New York.

  258. Ed says:
    @StAugustine
    Everyone here is condemning Wisconsin, but it's not really a fair estimation. Wisconsin has been deeply divided between the cities and rural areas for a long time-the cities vote Democrat and the countryside votes Republican. It's long been a "Farmers vs Unions" split. However, there's a finger on the tab for the Democrat side, and that's the university system spread throughout the state. So, in normal years, Republicans are stuck as the minority party, as they just didn't have the numbers to do anything in the legislatures, even if they manage to get a Republican governor (Tommy Thompson).

    However, the Great Obama Backlash threw a bunch of Republicans into office where they normally are not: namely Paul Ryan in the 1st district in Milwaukee, and Scott Walker into the governor's office. Walker is a nice nice guy who knows how to play dirty while looking clean. That is to say, he came from the Milwaukee system, same as Ryan. I think that to get into play in Milwaukee as a Republican, you have to be RINO-like, thus, their actions should not really be that surprising to anyone.

    You can see the city vs countryside split:
    http://interactive.nydailynews.com/2016/04/election-2016-live-voting-results-wisconsin-primary/

    I find it interesting that Cruz does better close to Minneapolis, but Trump does better closer to Chicago. Also, that Dane county (Madison) was as close as it was (7% margin), compared to the counties around Milwaukee (20-30% margins).

    Also what is interesting is that the total number of Republican votes cast was greater than the number of Democrat votes. But are these voters who would switch from Trump to Bernie if it is Bernie vs Cruz? Or would Cruz/Kaisch voters decide to vote Hillary in Hillary vs Trump?

    Replies: @Ed

    This is somewhat snarky, but there will be other people who read this comment and will be confused. You are reading the map wrong. The bright orange are places Cruz won, and the darker maroons color are the places Trump won. Its the exact opposite as you describe. Or you don’t know that Chicago is off the lower righthand side, and Minneapolis the upper lefthand side.

    The larger points on Wisconsin politics is not that accurate. The election of neither Ryan or Walker had little or nothing to do with the anti-Obama backlash. One of the ways that Wisconsin is unusual politically is that it is one of the few remaining states where Democrats are competitive in rural areas. The Republicans build their margins in the bright red suburbs of Milwaukee. They usually win the Milwaukee area and break even in the rest of the state.

    None of this affects a Republican presidential primary anyway. Trump simply doesn’t appeal much in the upper Midwest, probably due to his personality, and he had an usually bad couple weeks in terms of negative stuff on TV. That is about it. Walker did try to run for President himself, and would have been the Rubio of the campaign if Rubio hadn’t become the Rubio.

  259. Trump represents what 98% of Americans SAY they want, but believe the “news” media when it says HE’s not it.

    Less war, less immigration, jobs returned from overseas, an end to crony capitalism, safety from muslim extremists, better global trade deals, low/no PC straight talk, improved relations with Russia….

    ALL the others want “more of the same”.

  260. @Reg Cæsar
    @epebble

    He's weaker in states with fewer immigrants. Unless they're states, like Michigan, where the reason for fewer immigrants is a sick local economy.

    Replies: @Bert

    Trump is weaker in those states because the voters there place a high value on personality, likeability, and old fashioned grassroots politicking. He’s absolutely failed to try to improve his image or attempt to pay for a real organization and it’s completely hurt him.

  261. @Hepp
    Josh Barro tweeted something very interesting today. The Republican primary was actually easy to predict all along if you just went with the polls. Saying that Trump can win the general because everyone doubted he'd win the primary assumes a change in the polls.

    I fear the man might be too damaged to win.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @CommentGuy, @Kevin O'Keeffe, @Olorin

    It has nothing to do with Trump being “too damaged to win.”

    It has everything to do with the UniParty considering mainstream Americans too damaging to their globalist cause.

  262. Ed says:
    @Cwhatfuture
    This is the first time I can remember a political party trying to damage their own leading candidate. It is not that they are backing someone else, that has happened before, but they are trying to damage Trump. They want him to lose, if he wins the nomination. Their criticism is relentless and is having an effect. I hear people questionong Trump's conservatism. These were Bush voters. Well I would not vote for Cruz in the general. He reminds me of a tent preacher and he is just as phony. He is a complete fraud on immigration and his recent paean to NATO, an utter waste of money designed to give generals a good tour of duty in Europe, was the kind of robotic thinking that has walked America to the edge of a cliff. Trump was right, although it might have been better to simply ask why are we paying money to defend a wealthy Europe from ...a Soviet tank attack?

    Replies: @Ed

    “This is the first time I can remember a political party trying to damage their own leading candidate.”

    I just skimmed through the comments, and # 45 is the best. Chris Matthews has been making a similar point.

    Usually what happens when a candidate does as well in the early primary and caucus contests as Trump is that the party establishment gets behind that candidate and the voters in the later contests are told to “fall in line” (this was the phrase actually used by the Democrats in 2004) to get behind that candidate so everyone can focus on the general election. This despite the fact that technically the convention decides the nomination and the leading candidate takes awhile to get a majority of the delegates. Sometimes a single alternative candidate keeps going in the later primaries to offer Washington Generals style opposition, and is allowed to make a speech at the convention.

    The Democrats did have two movements that were sort of like the stop Trump movement in the 1970s, when the electoral system was more open. There were late, poorly co-ordinated efforts to stop McGovern and Carter that fell just short of being successful. In neither case did you get the sort of vitriol that is being directed at Trump.

    • Replies: @Keypusher
    @Ed

    The party is resisting its leading candidate because the party thinks he's going to lead it off a cliff. Not difficult to understand.

  263. @Maj. Kong
    @Jefferson

    Loesch is part of Conservatism Inc, and has never generated a leftist anathema like Ann Coulter.

    For what it is worth, I would credit her success to her looks, just like most of the product on Fox News.

    Married women having angst over Trump is a shit test for their husbands.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Loesch is part of Conservatism Inc”

    No she is not. She has been a genuine Ted Cruz supporter ever since he first announced his presidency, back when there was like 300 candidates in the GOP field running for POTUS. She is not a former Little Marco or Low Energy Jeb supporter, who only now supports Ted because he is the lesser of 2 evils compared to Donald Trump.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jefferson


    “Loesch is part of Conservatism Inc”

    No she is not. She has been a genuine Ted Cruz supporter ever since he first announced his presidency, back when there was like 300 candidates in the GOP field running for POTUS. She is not a former Little Marco or Low Energy Jeb supporter, who only now supports Ted because he is the lesser of 2 evils compared to Donald Trump.
     

    The conservative movement really is low IQ when a gun-nut mommy blogger without a college education is a prominent voice in the conservative movement.

    Replies: @Jefferson

  264. @Polynikes
    After reading through the comments, I wanted to add another point.

    I think some are giving Cruz a harder time than he deserves . If Trump weren't in the race, Cruz would be the ant-immigration, anti-establishment candidate.

    Wisconsin isn't really backing Cruz, so much as stopping Trump. I had more than one high ranking party member tell me that Cruz was ineligible for office due to the birth thing. The talk radio guys have not endorsed Cruz. One, Charlie Sykes, has even said he doesn't like Cruz, but he urged everyone to vote for him to stop Trump.

    Another commentator hit the nail on the head when they said that Wisconsin has a functioning Republican party so it was a mistake for Trump to attack them. In the last 6 years the local Republicans have accomplished some noteworthy reforms up here regarding unions, taxes, and the 2nd amendment. Immigration just isn't on the radar.

    FWIW, I would guess that all of Cruz's WI delegates will desert him as soon as they can at the convention. Most will push to try and nominate Ryan (who is actually a nice guy, pretty sharp, but dead wrong on immigration).

    Replies: @RamonaQ, @Mr. Anon, @Jefferson

    “Another commentator hit the nail on the head when they said that Wisconsin has a functioning Republican party so it was a mistake for Trump to attack them. In the last 6 years the local Republicans have accomplished some noteworthy reforms up here regarding unions, taxes, and the 2nd amendment. Immigration just isn’t on the radar.”

    Immigration is not on their radar because there are not that many Hispanics in Wisconsin, 5 percent to be exact. There are more Norwegians in Wisconsin than there are Hispanics.

  265. @Lagertha
    @JZ

    I know, right? The northeast (and mid-Atlantic) is going to scare a lot of people after this Wisconsin blip; and, it is a blip.

    There was something dirty goin' on about this primary in Wisconsin....something is fishy (yeah, I know, there was soooo much dirty money to torpedo Trump).

    Lyin' Ted is just too oleaginous to ever, ever run again (he won't get the Presidency), but he wants to take prisoners...do people (the Rubes) not see that? Is it just me who knows this guy is all about winning a debate club meet but sticking it to the USA? He is such a frightening person. I don't want to think that the only antidote is just having Hilary run the show next 4 years after November election.

    What most Rubes out in the hinterlands, and pundits in the MSM don't "get" is that Trump represents policy change. Policy change which is, actually, duh, needed. There are people from liberal, conservative, independent camps, who are yearning for "policy change." Global warming, migrants, nuclear wingnut nations, scary Islamists, Zika, financial industries bubble & collapse - hiding and hoarding their assets in foreign banks; recession, loss of jobs period, should be making people feel very uncomfortable. Oh well.

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Lyin’ Ted is just too oleaginous to ever, ever run again (he won’t get the Presidency)

    I agree that Theodore Jehosophat Cruise (as I enjoy referring to him) will never, ever be President of the USA. But I’d be positively FLABBERGASTED if he doesn’t run in the future. He is one power-hungry SOB, and he’ll run again in 2020 and/or 2024.

  266. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Jefferson

    The South, Mid-Atlantic and Northeast is all about whites fleeing to majority-white school districts. That is all you need to understand to make money in real estate on the Eastern seaboard.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “The South, Mid-Atlantic and Northeast is all about whites fleeing to majority-white school districts. That is all you need to understand to make money in real estate on the Eastern seaboard.”

    How many majority African American and Hispanic school districts are there in rural Appalachia?

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Jefferson

    I doubt there are many. But the Appalachians are probably voting for Trump because they feel disenfranchised, while the Eastern seaboard is voting for Trump because of over-exposure to vibrancy.

  267. @Gabriel M
    I think everyone's missing the main point here. People from Wisconsin are all Jews. Only Jews don't like Trump, people from Wisonsin don't like Trump. It's not rocket science folks.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “I think everyone’s missing the main point here. People from Wisconsin are all Jews. Only Jews don’t like Trump, people from Wisonsin don’t like Trump. It’s not rocket science folks.”

    And don’t forget Texans are all Jews as well, hence why Donald Trump lost that state.

  268. @anon
    Well, Trump has already served his purpose: that of destroying the republican party. There is no chance that the Republican party has a future . The party has become divided between nationalists and globalist cucks. Neither division is large enough to win a general election.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Well, Trump has already served his purpose: that of destroying the republican party. There is no chance that the Republican party has a future . The party has become divided between nationalists and globalist cucks. Neither division is large enough to win a general election.”

    Why can’t neither division win a general election, is it because America is a Left Of Center nation because of changing racial demographics? Ronald Reagan couldn’t win a general election in 2016 because he would be considered too Right Wing for Hispanics, Asians, and African Americans. Ronald Reagan was a tough on crime law & order type of guy, so he would have been seen as Adolf Hitler by Black Lies Matter and Social Justice Warrior college students.

  269. @Anonymous
    @iSteveFan


    Cruz is physically unappealing. He is not photogenic and his bible antics won’t play in much of the nation. He will be limited to solid red states and won’t be able to compete at all in purple states.

    Hillary will have the full tailwind of the MSM behind her.
     

    And me, a straight ticket Republican voter for 40 years. What the establishment has done has made me realize that I cannot support a Cruz, Kasich, Ryan, etc. With certitude I will vote for Hillary over Cruz. I've convinced other Republican family members in battlegrounds states to do the same. Worse is the better option. Vote the bigger devil.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “And me, a straight ticket Republican voter for 40 years. What the establishment has done has made me realize that I cannot support a Cruz, Kasich, Ryan, etc. With certitude I will vote for Hillary over Cruz. I’ve convinced other Republican family members in battlegrounds states to do the same. Worse is the better option. Vote the bigger devil.”

    Hildabeast belongs in prison, not The White House.

  270. @Ed
    @Cwhatfuture

    "This is the first time I can remember a political party trying to damage their own leading candidate."

    I just skimmed through the comments, and # 45 is the best. Chris Matthews has been making a similar point.

    Usually what happens when a candidate does as well in the early primary and caucus contests as Trump is that the party establishment gets behind that candidate and the voters in the later contests are told to "fall in line" (this was the phrase actually used by the Democrats in 2004) to get behind that candidate so everyone can focus on the general election. This despite the fact that technically the convention decides the nomination and the leading candidate takes awhile to get a majority of the delegates. Sometimes a single alternative candidate keeps going in the later primaries to offer Washington Generals style opposition, and is allowed to make a speech at the convention.

    The Democrats did have two movements that were sort of like the stop Trump movement in the 1970s, when the electoral system was more open. There were late, poorly co-ordinated efforts to stop McGovern and Carter that fell just short of being successful. In neither case did you get the sort of vitriol that is being directed at Trump.

    Replies: @Keypusher

    The party is resisting its leading candidate because the party thinks he’s going to lead it off a cliff. Not difficult to understand.

  271. @Bert
    @rod1963

    If Trump had been willing to fund a ground organization in Iowa-a state he really had no business losing-and the other caucus states then he'd already be the nominee and none of this would matter. Instead it's become a nasty ugly drawn out fight that will end up hurting everyone. Except Hillary Clinton.

    I want to add that his obsession with Megyn Kelly is becoming a real problem. He seems unable to shut up about her, every week it's something. I get that she and Fox News tried to screw him over, but for God's sake's this shit needs to stop. No wonder his numbers with women are rock bottom now.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “I want to add that his obsession with Megyn Kelly is becoming a real problem. He seems unable to shut up about her, every week it’s something. I get that she and Fox News tried to screw him over, but for God’s sake’s this shit needs to stop. No wonder his numbers with women are rock bottom now.”

    Most of the media in general is anti-Donald Trump, yet he only gets angry when Megyn Kelly criticizes him. But what Megyn Kelly says about him is tame compared to what The Left says about Donald, which is that he is Adolf Hitler.

    Joy Behar said he is the new Adolf Hitler, but you don’t see Donald Trump go on Twitter and bash Joy Behar by saying that she has an ugly face and that no man would find her attractive.

    Why is it that Megyn Kelly is one of the few people who get under Donald Trump’s skin, but not the majority of the mainstream media who say a lot worst things about him?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jefferson


    Why is it that Megyn Kelly is one of the few people who get under Donald Trump’s skin, but not the majority of the mainstream media who say a lot worst things about him?



    Megan Kelley has done more than simply say bad things about Donald Trump. She set him up and ambushed him in one of the early (maybe the first) debates, in a manner that seemed very unfair and mean-spirited. But I agree that at this point he should move on and forget about it.
    , @Romanian
    @Jefferson

    I think he's employing a wrestling metanarrative tactic - establishing a nemesis he can cut loose on without raising general hell. It would have been different had he been in shouting matches with 50 people in the press at the same time. This way, he can show off without appearing embattled, because his war of words with this Kelly person is already a joke and liable to be treated as such by most people, because of his political reality distortion field as a reality TV celebrity.

  272. @Honesthughgrant
    Never underestimate the stupidity of the average Republican. They voted for Ford over Reagan in '76. 40% voted for Bush over Reagan in 1980. And they nominated:

    - Bush in '88
    -Dole in '96
    -McCain in '08
    -Romney in '12

    And about 40% wanted McCain in 2000 'cause Bush II was too 'radical' for them. Seriously, about 40% of Republicans are status quo, don't rock the boat, everything's fine, let's just cut the capital gains tax and pray to Jesus dimwits.

    Take away Reagan and you're looking at the party of Nixon and 50 years of failure. And loving it.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @athEIst

    Bush in ’88.
    I think you mean Bush in 1992.
    Bush in ’88 won.
    Bush in ’92 lost,

  273. There are people on The Right who are saying the fact that Donald Trump feels more comfortable doing interviews with MSNBC than he does with Fox News, means he is not really a Conservative.

    Donald Trump will do an interview with Rolling Stones Magazine who are advocates of creating fake rapists like Haven Monahan, but not sit down and do an interview with Neil Cavuto.

    Maybe secretly he enjoys hanging out with Left Wing elitists.

  274. @RamonaQ
    Trump had an amazing opportunity after the Brussels attack to expand his base. His comments resonated with almost everyone except the most braindead lefties. He blew it by starting a pointless feud over Heidi Cruz.

    I'm trying to remember that everything Trump has done is beyond what any of us would ever have imagined. He has made immigration restrictionism and protectionism mainstream issues and they will have to be part of the GOP platform going forward.

    But it is soulcrushingly disappointing to realize he is simply not up to the challenge. It's not surprising since the skillsets of a shameless taboo breaker have very few overlaps with those of a smart consolidater.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    It’s been a heroic adventure.

  275. @Pseudonymic Handle
    OT: Jackie of Haven Monahan fame is in trouble:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/06/business/media/jackie-in-rolling-stone-rape-article-must-testify-in-defamation-suit.html

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “OT: Jackie of Haven Monahan fame is in trouble:”

    I wonder why Jackie had to say her fake nonexistent rapists were all blonds? Couldn’t she just leave it at them being all White? Why couldn’t her fictional rapists be a pack of very dark haired Jon Hamm Mad Men types? But instead they all have to look like the blond villain Dwight from The Walking Dead.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Jefferson

    Especially because there were no lights on in the Rape Room.

  276. @Jefferson
    @Pseudonymic Handle

    "OT: Jackie of Haven Monahan fame is in trouble:"

    I wonder why Jackie had to say her fake nonexistent rapists were all blonds? Couldn't she just leave it at them being all White? Why couldn't her fictional rapists be a pack of very dark haired Jon Hamm Mad Men types? But instead they all have to look like the blond villain Dwight from The Walking Dead.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Especially because there were no lights on in the Rape Room.

  277. @Sissyfuss
    I think it's a push or maybe even good for Trump's "narrative" though strategically near-fatal for getting the 1,237 (that is my dumbly parroting c.w. but someone more versed in this byzantine primary process can maybe explain why it is in fact fatal). There is a great deal of hurt ego out there among the subspecies of the conservative rank 'n' file, I call them "politics dweebs," who probably each own at least 1 item of clothing/apparel with Mark Levin's or Glenn Beck's face on it, and going into the general it will help that this subspecies can nurse their wounds and feel they had some wins, made a statement, whatever. Note: I was anti-anti-Cruz for a long time but now that Koch/CoC have glommed on I say put a fork in him... Let the guy and his freaky wife return to Cap Hill to hector other old rich a-holes who don't give a rat's--these people deserve each other. Meanwhile Trump to me is so flawed and lacking in future tense that it's actually incredible to ponder him becoming prez but I think the particle physics of him bouncing off GOPe once he's in there could be very productive in spite of themselves. Note II: also growing more worried re: Trump's odds against Hillary

    Replies: @Bill

    This is a good link for why it’s near fatal. Take away WI in that table, and Trump does not make 1,237. It’s also not too clear where he can make it up.

  278. Trump actually lost to Cruz among Wisconsin voters who want to halt Muslim immigration.

  279. @Lagertha
    @Buzz Mohawk

    forget Asians, Harvard is not admitting enough of ANY of the smartest students in the country! - but all these "rejected" geniuses are getting really good scholarships from lowly state U and unknown-3rd tier-private U, and graduating to excellent jobs ($220K+) without ANY debt! Yey! Cream always rises to the top.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Suburban Dad

    Kids who are qualified to go Ivy-or-peer (Stanford, MIT, etc.) but are rejected don’t end up at lowly state schools or third tier private schools. They are going to private schools of the BU / Vanderbilt / Emory / Rice tier or to flagship public universities. And if they are white or Asian the “full ride” scholarships they are getting are still leaving them with $25k of debt. (The Ivies and Stanford, on the other hand, guarantee that all but actually rich kids graduate 100% debt free.)

    While immediate $220k jobs are a hyperbole — that’s total comp for the top 1% or 2% of the first year analyst class at Goldman, and for coders/biz dev guys who luck into a startup that has a step-change valuation event a few months later — there are quite a few reliably >$100k+ jobs out there for 22 year old freshly-minted graduates, but Ivy and equivalent grads have basically an 80% chance of getting one if they want and your protypical unfair Ivy reject (who, let’s say, is instead at Rice or UT Austin) has a less than 10% chance of getting one.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Suburban Dad

    If you can get into Stanford, go to Stanford.

    That's part of my contra-contrarianism.

    Replies: @Lagertha

  280. @Suburban Dad
    @Lagertha

    Kids who are qualified to go Ivy-or-peer (Stanford, MIT, etc.) but are rejected don't end up at lowly state schools or third tier private schools. They are going to private schools of the BU / Vanderbilt / Emory / Rice tier or to flagship public universities. And if they are white or Asian the "full ride" scholarships they are getting are still leaving them with $25k of debt. (The Ivies and Stanford, on the other hand, guarantee that all but actually rich kids graduate 100% debt free.)

    While immediate $220k jobs are a hyperbole -- that's total comp for the top 1% or 2% of the first year analyst class at Goldman, and for coders/biz dev guys who luck into a startup that has a step-change valuation event a few months later -- there are quite a few reliably >$100k+ jobs out there for 22 year old freshly-minted graduates, but Ivy and equivalent grads have basically an 80% chance of getting one if they want and your protypical unfair Ivy reject (who, let's say, is instead at Rice or UT Austin) has a less than 10% chance of getting one.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    If you can get into Stanford, go to Stanford.

    That’s part of my contra-contrarianism.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Steve Sailer

    totally agree! OT: Can you just post something totally new - international news would help, btw - (Armenia & Azerbaijan needs your sarcastic attention big time !) to get fracking Twinkie off my back? When I think of Twinkie, I have this fear of an evil cartoon character wanting to just stomp on me...Ghostbusters Doughboy???

    Replies: @Twinkie

  281. I wonder why the Trumpites don’t remark that Trump seriously underspent Cruz – even if you don’t count the still larger fund devoted to “Never Trump.”

    If you give your loyalty to a “self-funding” billionaire, he at least shouldn’t be a cheapskate! (What kind of budget deal was Lewandowski for campaign manager?)

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    "If you give your loyalty to a “self-funding” billionaire, he at least shouldn’t be a cheapskate! (What kind of budget deal was Lewandowski for campaign manager?)"

    Donald Trump is waiting for the general election to spend the big bucks. He doesn't think it is worth it to spend so much money in the primaries.

    Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond

  282. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jefferson
    @Maj. Kong

    "Loesch is part of Conservatism Inc"

    No she is not. She has been a genuine Ted Cruz supporter ever since he first announced his presidency, back when there was like 300 candidates in the GOP field running for POTUS. She is not a former Little Marco or Low Energy Jeb supporter, who only now supports Ted because he is the lesser of 2 evils compared to Donald Trump.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    “Loesch is part of Conservatism Inc”

    No she is not. She has been a genuine Ted Cruz supporter ever since he first announced his presidency, back when there was like 300 candidates in the GOP field running for POTUS. She is not a former Little Marco or Low Energy Jeb supporter, who only now supports Ted because he is the lesser of 2 evils compared to Donald Trump.

    The conservative movement really is low IQ when a gun-nut mommy blogger without a college education is a prominent voice in the conservative movement.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Anonymous

    "The conservative movement really is low IQ when a gun-nut mommy blogger without a college education is a prominent voice in the conservative movement."

    What's wrong with being a gun nut? I would rather have an armed to the teeth White population than one that is not.

  283. @Anonymous
    @iSteveFan


    Wisconsin Sucks
     
    Agree. With a low-IQed governor who got kicked out of Marquette for a ow GPA.

    Fuck flyover country. Fuck the GOP. I've voted straight Republican since 1984. It's now only Trump or nothing for me. A non-Trump GOP candidate and I'll vote Democrat or third party (especially if Trump goes third party). If the GOP establish #NeverTrump conglomeration of globalist special interests succeed then I will NEVER vote for a Republican again. And I will work tirelessly to support things which subvert them. Not that these establishment types give a shit, but they will when they try to live in a country which is a hodgepodge clusterfuck and their lives are degraded.

    Replies: @Boethius, @Anonymous Nephew

    The conservative UK commentator Peter Hitchens has a similar view – never mind the UK Labour Party, it is the UK Conservative Party which must be destroyed if we ever wish to have a conservative party in power.

    The Conservative Party since 2010 has introduced homosexual marriage (not in their manifesto) and have presided over record levels of immigration (manifesto pledge to cut it to ‘tens of thousands’). Cameron wants the UK to stay in the EU, and he also wants Turkey, that staunch NATO ally of ISIS, and its 75 million population, to join the EU. All EU citizens have the right to free movement between member states, and London already has a hefty Turkish population.

    His and Hollande’s decision to send in the RAF and French planes to bomb Gaddafi has had two direct consequences for Europe – the flow of illegal infiltrator boats to Italy which is making that country look more like Senegal each day, and the massacre in Tunisia of scores of elderly British tourists, killed by Islamist ‘fighters’ armed and trained in Cameron’s Libya.

    Oh, and he has been a loyal supporter of the US/EU/Saudi/Turkish/Gulf campaign to fund, arm and train ‘opposition forces’ to do to Syria what he’s already done to Libya.

  284. @Stephen R. Diamond
    I wonder why the Trumpites don't remark that Trump seriously underspent Cruz - even if you don't count the still larger fund devoted to "Never Trump."

    If you give your loyalty to a "self-funding" billionaire, he at least shouldn't be a cheapskate! (What kind of budget deal was Lewandowski for campaign manager?)

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “If you give your loyalty to a “self-funding” billionaire, he at least shouldn’t be a cheapskate! (What kind of budget deal was Lewandowski for campaign manager?)”

    Donald Trump is waiting for the general election to spend the big bucks. He doesn’t think it is worth it to spend so much money in the primaries.

    • Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond
    @Jefferson

    But Trump has not committed to self-funding in the general! (He says candidates who take big-donor contributions are bought ... yet refuses to rule out that he will take these contributions. Makes a lot of sense.)

  285. @Twinkie
    @JZ


    Oh, and nary a mention in MSM of Cruz sex scandal. Incredible
     
    Here you go: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/03/25/cruz-national-enquirer-story-is-garbage-from-donald-trump-and-his-henchmen/

    Katrina Pierson, a Trump spokeswoman who once worked for Cruz, also said the [National Enquirer] story is false.
     

    Cruz also took the leaders of the Enquirer to task, saying they were in league with the Trump campaign.

    “The CEO of the National Enquirer is an individual named David Pecker,” said Cruz. “Well, David is good friends with Donald Trump. In fact, the National Enquirer has endorsed Donald Trump, has said he must be president…
     

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Stephen R. Diamond

    “Pecker.” Is that a joke?

  286. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jefferson
    @Bert

    "I want to add that his obsession with Megyn Kelly is becoming a real problem. He seems unable to shut up about her, every week it’s something. I get that she and Fox News tried to screw him over, but for God’s sake’s this shit needs to stop. No wonder his numbers with women are rock bottom now."

    Most of the media in general is anti-Donald Trump, yet he only gets angry when Megyn Kelly criticizes him. But what Megyn Kelly says about him is tame compared to what The Left says about Donald, which is that he is Adolf Hitler.

    Joy Behar said he is the new Adolf Hitler, but you don't see Donald Trump go on Twitter and bash Joy Behar by saying that she has an ugly face and that no man would find her attractive.

    Why is it that Megyn Kelly is one of the few people who get under Donald Trump's skin, but not the majority of the mainstream media who say a lot worst things about him?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Romanian

    Why is it that Megyn Kelly is one of the few people who get under Donald Trump’s skin, but not the majority of the mainstream media who say a lot worst things about him?

    Megan Kelley has done more than simply say bad things about Donald Trump. She set him up and ambushed him in one of the early (maybe the first) debates, in a manner that seemed very unfair and mean-spirited. But I agree that at this point he should move on and forget about it.

  287. @LondonBob
    @Honesthughgrant

    Yeah big shock Trump loses state he is expected to lose. Still picked up two CDs and thus six delegates. On to NY where he should win by a landslide, with his first fifty plus, with eighty plus delegates. Then the Acela primaries which will also be a landslide. Trump has learnt an important lesson now to get more professional.

    NY is and expensive market for the special interests to buy ads in too.

    As Sam Wang says, time to buy Trump.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Suburban Dad

    What evidence is there that Trump has learned his lesson. His loony-tunes screed of a concession that he put out last night?

    MY lesson of the past nine months is Trump is incapable of learning any lessons.

    That worked well when he was making himself more popular by defying the MSM and GOPe last summer … but it’s not working so well when what he’s doing seems to underline a consistent antipathy to women who don’t meet his beauty standards (or who do and seem not to want him), a lack of consideration of BASIC public policy issues like abortion that begs the question does he have a considered view of ANY issue), and a complete incompetence at the blocking and tackling that is becoming a Presidential nominee. (He will have 50+ fewer first ballot votes than he should have, and 150+ fewer rules and procedural votes, than he would have in a competent race, each quite possibly being his margin of victory, or defeat.)

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @Suburban Dad

    No one is perfect and Trump has seen the forest while the rest of the considerable pack has only seen the trees. Trump will emerge with a large plurality and will be seen as the rightful nominee. That is more than you can say of any other candidate and which is doubly impressive for a political neophyte.

  288. @Jefferson
    @Bert

    "I want to add that his obsession with Megyn Kelly is becoming a real problem. He seems unable to shut up about her, every week it’s something. I get that she and Fox News tried to screw him over, but for God’s sake’s this shit needs to stop. No wonder his numbers with women are rock bottom now."

    Most of the media in general is anti-Donald Trump, yet he only gets angry when Megyn Kelly criticizes him. But what Megyn Kelly says about him is tame compared to what The Left says about Donald, which is that he is Adolf Hitler.

    Joy Behar said he is the new Adolf Hitler, but you don't see Donald Trump go on Twitter and bash Joy Behar by saying that she has an ugly face and that no man would find her attractive.

    Why is it that Megyn Kelly is one of the few people who get under Donald Trump's skin, but not the majority of the mainstream media who say a lot worst things about him?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Romanian

    I think he’s employing a wrestling metanarrative tactic – establishing a nemesis he can cut loose on without raising general hell. It would have been different had he been in shouting matches with 50 people in the press at the same time. This way, he can show off without appearing embattled, because his war of words with this Kelly person is already a joke and liable to be treated as such by most people, because of his political reality distortion field as a reality TV celebrity.

  289. Donald Trump articulated a underrepresented viewpoint on the key issue, and got this far with it in the process through a unique public profile and persona. There are no more Trumps, and I think the media will be a lot more careful about letting anyone get that kind of nonjudgemental free exposure again. No one even potentially with his stated views on immigration will be able to repeat if he fails to get elected. Logic and policy proposals such as a wall will again be as dust in the wind.

    • Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond
    @Sean


    No one even potentially with his stated views on immigration will be able to repeat if he fails to get elected.
     
    Then he's done y'all a disservice!

    Replies: @Sean

  290. @Jefferson
    Donald Trump at least publicly during this election, needs to stop saying that woman Y and woman X is ugly. Is he trying to be POTUS or is he trying to become a PUA teacher? He is behaving more like Roosh V than a presidential candidate.

    When he debates Hildabeast I hope he doesnt say she is not qualified to be president because her face is ugly, like he did with Carly Fiorina. This is politics, women in Washington are not suppose to look like Adriana Lima and Phoebe Cates in 1982.

    Its like Donald Trump just found out now that most female politicians and wives of male politicians are ugly. Has he been living in a cave this whole time? Sometimes he comes off like an Onion parody.

    Replies: @Difference Maker

    Ugly girls means the men are losers

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Difference Maker

    "Ugly girls means the men are losers"

    So does this mean Bill Clinton is a loser? After all his wife is not even attractive for a woman in her 60s, let alone attractive in general. I can name plenty of senior citizen female celebrities who are more attractive than Hildabeast, like Olivia Newton John and Raquel Welch for example.

  291. @Twinkie
    @Mr. Anon


    Pierson has also been identified as one of the women whom the Enquirer claims had an affair with Cruz.
     
    By ONE source - a Trump lackey that Trump's campaign had to let go. It's not some giant conspiracy. MSM is silent on the so-called scandal, because they have not been able to corroborate the story at all.

    Replies: @Mr. ANon, @Bill

    What are you talking about? Pierson just is one of the women NE claims had an affair with Cruz. It’s a fact. They published her picture.

  292. @Twinkie
    @Mr. Anon


    Does Cruz really do better among that demographic?
     
    Yes.

    He might if he and the party heirarchy alienate enough Republican-leaning voters.
     
    Trump alienates Republican-leaning voters more than Cruz does.

    Don't forget Trump has won a PLURALITY, not a majority of delegates so far.

    Replies: @Difference Maker

    Republican? Like yourself? Who voted for the lost-on-all fronts status quo Republican establishment?

    Who supported the establishment against Trump early on. I remember your angst. Ted would actually be for more immigration if it weren’t for Trump. Even now you support the untrustworthy Cruz.

  293. @Jefferson
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    "The South, Mid-Atlantic and Northeast is all about whites fleeing to majority-white school districts. That is all you need to understand to make money in real estate on the Eastern seaboard."

    How many majority African American and Hispanic school districts are there in rural Appalachia?

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    I doubt there are many. But the Appalachians are probably voting for Trump because they feel disenfranchised, while the Eastern seaboard is voting for Trump because of over-exposure to vibrancy.

  294. @Twinkie
    @Lagertha


    he is, unfortunately, not the real deal.
     
    You just figured that out? And you call the hardworking, earnest Midwesterners "rubes"?

    Some of you (including you, Lagertha) are hypocrites and sore losers. If Democrats had derided "flyover country" whites as you had, you'd be rolling your eyes and vehemently criticizing them for casting aspersions on honest, hardworking, family-oriented good white folks.

    It's not the fault of those good folks that Trump is a clown who can't parrot simple policy descriptions, make up false stories, and goes after his rival's wife, and generally reveals himself to be a petulant, juvenile, silver-spooned showman.

    I liked some of his campaign's policy proposals (I am an immigration restrictionist, after all) and I enjoyed him making both the Establishment-at-large and the GOP Establishment squirm, and seriously considered supporting him (right until the Iowa caucuses) over Cruz. But at some point the clown show must end, and a candidate for president who is serious should show some mastery of detail, organization (after all, he is supposed to be a great manager of people and organizations), and substance as well as, gee, I don't know, a sense of dignity.

    Instead, Trump keeps shooting himself on the foot, and makes me glad that I cast my lot with Cruz, as much as he gives off that used car salesman vibe (though a highly intelligent one).

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Lagertha, @Truth, @Bill

    They are rubes.

    Rube is a very mild insult. It just means gullible.

    You might want to think about just what kind of garbage you’ve allowed to infiltrate your moral sense. Rube is a grave insult from the mouth of a con man and from the mouths of people who admire con men.

    • Agree: Stephen R. Diamond
  295. @Sean
    Donald Trump articulated a underrepresented viewpoint on the key issue, and got this far with it in the process through a unique public profile and persona. There are no more Trumps, and I think the media will be a lot more careful about letting anyone get that kind of nonjudgemental free exposure again. No one even potentially with his stated views on immigration will be able to repeat if he fails to get elected. Logic and policy proposals such as a wall will again be as dust in the wind.

    Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond

    No one even potentially with his stated views on immigration will be able to repeat if he fails to get elected.

    Then he’s done y’all a disservice!

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    There is a reason why he was dubbed The Donald. Opposition to replacement immigrantion is not unique, Trumps ability to win with it is. No one else has Trumps's attributes.

  296. As the decimal points resolve, the big question remains: will Cruz beat Trump by over 20 points?

  297. @iSteveFan
    @Twinkie

    If you are against cultists, how do you feel about Ted's number one supporter Glenn Beck? Shouldn't Cruz at least publicly denounce such a loon?

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    If you are against cultists, how do you feel about Ted’s number one supporter Glenn Beck? Shouldn’t Cruz at least publicly denounce such a loon?

    I realize that it may be very difficult for a normal man to understand this, but in much of the country (particularly among supporters of Sen. Theodore Jehosophat Cruise’s Presidential campaign), Glenn Beck is considered a perfectly reasonable man. An admirable man, even. I realize that’s difficult to comprehend, but shockingly, its true.

  298. @Difference Maker
    @Jefferson

    Ugly girls means the men are losers

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Ugly girls means the men are losers”

    So does this mean Bill Clinton is a loser? After all his wife is not even attractive for a woman in her 60s, let alone attractive in general. I can name plenty of senior citizen female celebrities who are more attractive than Hildabeast, like Olivia Newton John and Raquel Welch for example.

  299. @iSteveFan
    @Twinkie

    What states that Obama won does Cruz have a realistic chance of winning? I don't even think Cruz can take back Florida or Virginia. And with his support for TPP I don't think he could win Ohio or PA.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    What states that Obama won does Cruz have a realistic chance of winning? I don’t even think Cruz can take back Florida or Virginia. And with his support for TPP I don’t think he could win Ohio or PA.

    Cruz would be very lucky indeed, merely to hold onto the states Romney carried. My guess is he’d lose North Carolina, Indiana, Missouri, and maybe a few others.

  300. @Suburban Dad
    @LondonBob

    What evidence is there that Trump has learned his lesson. His loony-tunes screed of a concession that he put out last night?

    MY lesson of the past nine months is Trump is incapable of learning any lessons.

    That worked well when he was making himself more popular by defying the MSM and GOPe last summer ... but it's not working so well when what he's doing seems to underline a consistent antipathy to women who don't meet his beauty standards (or who do and seem not to want him), a lack of consideration of BASIC public policy issues like abortion that begs the question does he have a considered view of ANY issue), and a complete incompetence at the blocking and tackling that is becoming a Presidential nominee. (He will have 50+ fewer first ballot votes than he should have, and 150+ fewer rules and procedural votes, than he would have in a competent race, each quite possibly being his margin of victory, or defeat.)

    Replies: @Anonym

    No one is perfect and Trump has seen the forest while the rest of the considerable pack has only seen the trees. Trump will emerge with a large plurality and will be seen as the rightful nominee. That is more than you can say of any other candidate and which is doubly impressive for a political neophyte.

  301. @Anonym
    @Mr. Anon

    I think Twinkie is more like a Twinkie with custard inside. To outward appearances yellow on the outside, white on the inside, but really yellow on the inside too. When the white demographic has no practical remaining chance to dominate the electorate, there will be a "What do you mean 'we', paleface?" moment from him and those like him.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    When the white demographic has no practical remaining chance to dominate the electorate, there will be a “What do you mean ‘we’, paleface?” moment from him and those like him.

    1. I am more pale-faced than most Mediterranean whites (though I tan easily under the sun). Last time I checked, people of my ethnicity are often lumped into “lily white” category by leftist race hustlers.

    2. I’ve shed blood for this, my adopted country, that I love so dearly. You think I’ll sell out my beloved wife, her kin, and my children (who are half-white), and my friends and blood-brothers once the demographics of this country changes? Are you some kind of stupid?

    3. If I were interested in self-interest of a certain sort, with my elite credentials and affluence, I could be playing the whole SWPL/SWJ/leftist elite game TODAY. Lord knows my actual moral and philosophical views have been a hindrance to my careers and social acceptance, not a benefit. As it were, I find such a game repellent in the extreme.

    4. As a general comment (one that pertains to you as well), it seems to me that a lot of “white nationalist” types are so emotionally invested in the “everybody hates white males” meme that they would rather engage in the self-fulfilling prophesy of pre-emptively being hostile to everyone else (“See! He hates me! That’s why I hated him first! And let him know it too!”), rather than actually embracing and working with earnest allies.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @Twinkie

    Color me skeptical. You are not Japanese or ethnic Chinese. Probably Korean is my guess, and they certainly don't have a rep for honesty. The history of TKD is emblematic of this.

    Look at Derb for instance. You could make the same arguments about him, but look at his views. I think he is honest about them though.

    I think that you and people like you feel most comfortable with a Singapore-like situation that considers its ethnic makeup as a given. This will not be the case until the back of the white majority is broken. You no doubt have a very heightened concern about how half caste children are perceived. It is understandable but something to be taken into account by more gullible but well meaning whites.

    I have nothing against East Asians I just don't want to see a soft or hard invasion by them or anyone else into the Eurosphere.

    , @Jefferson
    @Twinkie

    4. As a general comment (one that pertains to you as well), it seems to me that a lot of “white nationalist” types are so emotionally invested in the “everybody hates white males”

    There is also the beta male Cuck Wing of the White Nationalist movement. These are the low self esteem types, who believe White men are considered extremely undesirable in the dating market because Black guys get all of the women. They blame the fact that they are virgins who have never had a girlfriend on Black guys and Jews for using some type of voodoo that makes attractive women only date Black guys. These White nationalists have lower self esteem than a Chinese nerd. It's pathetic.

    Replies: @Truth, @Stephen R. Diamond

    , @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @Twinkie

    ...it seems to me that a lot of “white nationalist” types are so emotionally invested in the “everybody hates white males” meme that they would rather engage in the self-fulfilling prophesy of pre-emptively being hostile to everyone else (“See! He hates me! That’s why I hated him first! And let him know it too!”), rather than actually embracing and working with earnest allies.

    There's a lot of truth in those remarks, unfortunately.

  302. @Dirk Dagger
    @Truth

    That's assuming his stories are true or mostly true. I'm assuming he's a fantasist. This is the internet.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Truth, @Twinkie

    That’s assuming his stories are true or mostly true. I’m assuming he’s a fantasist. This is the internet.

    You are right. In fact, I am not even Asian! I am actually a short, chubby Latina with moderate IQ!

    I don’t blame you. There is a lot of idiocy on the Internet. My wife frequently admonishes for wasting my time arguing with (or teaching) “morons on the Internet.” She thinks that a person of my caliber should be doing useful things in real life.

  303. @Mr. Anon
    @Anonym

    "I get the feeling you are concern trolling."

    I don't think he is. Twinkie is a good guy. He's just arguing for his guy, as we Trump supporters are arguing for ours.

    We don't all have to agree on everything.

    Replies: @Anonym, @Twinkie

    I don’t think he is. Twinkie is a good guy. He’s just arguing for his guy, as we Trump supporters are arguing for ours.

    We don’t all have to agree on everything.

    Thanks. You are right. I am not “trolling,” whatever that means. I am not exactly thrilled with Cruz, but I do earnestly think he is more of a known quantity than Trump. And if “my guy” were to lose, and Trump were to be the GOP candidate, I will support Trump and do my best to beat the other team. I have pledged to do so, and my word is my bond.

    I am fiercely conservative, but I know that asking for 100% ideological purity from my allies is a surefire way to make the tent as small as possible and earn defeat after defeat.

  304. @Twinkie
    @Anonym


    When the white demographic has no practical remaining chance to dominate the electorate, there will be a “What do you mean ‘we’, paleface?” moment from him and those like him.
     
    1. I am more pale-faced than most Mediterranean whites (though I tan easily under the sun). Last time I checked, people of my ethnicity are often lumped into "lily white" category by leftist race hustlers.

    2. I've shed blood for this, my adopted country, that I love so dearly. You think I'll sell out my beloved wife, her kin, and my children (who are half-white), and my friends and blood-brothers once the demographics of this country changes? Are you some kind of stupid?

    3. If I were interested in self-interest of a certain sort, with my elite credentials and affluence, I could be playing the whole SWPL/SWJ/leftist elite game TODAY. Lord knows my actual moral and philosophical views have been a hindrance to my careers and social acceptance, not a benefit. As it were, I find such a game repellent in the extreme.

    4. As a general comment (one that pertains to you as well), it seems to me that a lot of "white nationalist" types are so emotionally invested in the "everybody hates white males" meme that they would rather engage in the self-fulfilling prophesy of pre-emptively being hostile to everyone else ("See! He hates me! That's why I hated him first! And let him know it too!"), rather than actually embracing and working with earnest allies.

    Replies: @Anonym, @Jefferson, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Color me skeptical. You are not Japanese or ethnic Chinese. Probably Korean is my guess, and they certainly don’t have a rep for honesty. The history of TKD is emblematic of this.

    Look at Derb for instance. You could make the same arguments about him, but look at his views. I think he is honest about them though.

    I think that you and people like you feel most comfortable with a Singapore-like situation that considers its ethnic makeup as a given. This will not be the case until the back of the white majority is broken. You no doubt have a very heightened concern about how half caste children are perceived. It is understandable but something to be taken into account by more gullible but well meaning whites.

    I have nothing against East Asians I just don’t want to see a soft or hard invasion by them or anyone else into the Eurosphere.

  305. I like how Trump wins multiple primaries in one night and it’s a grudging “Cruz has a hard road ahead” but a state full of cucks who thinks Scripture demands the Constitution send their sons to die for Israel goes for Cruz and Trump is done or something.

  306. Just made it through all of this. Comments on Wisconsin as a Republican former 10 year resident who matriculated from high school in Madison:

    1) Trump won the Driftless area and the Canadian Shield. These are the agriculturally poor rural areas in the west and north of the state. Economically they are former mining and timber areas. They are essentially equivalent demographicaly and economically to places like western Massachusetts, West Virginia, upstate New York, northern Maine, northern Pennsylvania. These areas typically lean Democratic in general elections.

    2) Cruz won the agriculturally rich moraine and drumlin area between Janesville and Green Bay between Milwaukee and Madison. This area includes the rich suburbs of Milwaukee. This is one of the most fertile agricultural areas in the country, comparable to northwest Iowa, western Michigan, and Lancaster/York in Pennsylvania. This area is the Republican heartland of the state.

    3) Wisconsin is doing well enough economically since it has an educated and industrious populace. It is not truly a rust belt state, and anyone who has ever been there would know that. Milwaukee is by far the major midwestern city outside Chicago with the most remaining economic vitality and has barely lost population (compared to St. Louis, Cleveland, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, which lost 50% or more).

    4) Trump is correct about what Governor Walker is doing to the state. He is neglecting the infrastructure, which is falling apart because of doctrinaire anti-tax dogmas preventing raising the gas tax. He has also attacking the public schools and the University of Wisconsin because that is the liberal power base, but in doing so he is damaging them, not understanding that they are a major factor in the success of his state. That is typical shortsighted Republican behavior – milk the cow as long as you can before slaughtering it. The Republican base in Wisconsin may not want to hear it, but its true. A typical dick move of Governor Walker was cancelling the expansion of the Amtrak Hiawatha train service to Madison (currently it runs Milwaukee to Chicago, serving the area of Governor Walker’s base). The state had already spent a lot of money on it, and it had hundreds of millions of free federal money lined up to pay for all remaining costs. But because the service would have mainly benefited his political enemies in Madison, he cancelled the project, costing the state all of the federal grant money and over $50 million more of its own money to wind down previously agreed to contracts. Walker is basically a petty shortsighted sockpuppet, which was shown right after he was elected to office by a fake Koch Brother’s prank call by a liberal radio talk show that he fell for. But dammit, he’s OUR sockpuppet, so the Republican voters support him.

    5) Wisconsin’s dairy farms have become heavily dependent on illegal aliens to perform the actual work of daily milking. The farms are now huge operations with thousands of cattle that replaced the old 100 head operations that used to dot the state. This use of illegals and legal Mexicans for dairy operations is actively promoted by the state government. The milk industry is heavily regulated and subsidized and requires daily attention and hard labor. White people just don’t want to do it anymore. Anti-immigrant message went over predictably like a lead balloon.

    6) Wisconsin polls. A lot of delusion about what these shows has been evinced here.
    Cruz-Trump-Kasich
    4/5/16 Primary 48-35-14
    4/3/16 ARG 32-42-23
    4/3/16 Emerson 40-35-21
    4/1/16 CBS 43-37-18
    3/30/16 Fox 42-32-19
    3/30/16 Loras 38-31-18
    3/29/16 PPP 38-37-17
    3/28/16 Marquette 40-30-21
    3/24/16 Optimus 25-29-27
    3/22/16 Emerson 36-35-19
    3/20/16 Basswood 36-31-21

    Except for the ARG outlier poll and bizarre online Optimus poll, Trump was clearly losing for over two weeks (even before Utah and the Melania ad and Heidi retweet), and the numbers barely changed. His poll average was 33% and he got 35%. Cruz was averaging 39% and got 48%. Kasich lost a few points of his polling and the undecided mostly went to Cruz. Why anyone is surprised or distraught by the results is beyond me.

    • Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond
    @Andrew


    White people just don’t want to do it anymore.
     
    Dismaying to find this standard open-borderist talking point in an otherwise very informative comment.

    Replies: @Andrew

    , @Olorin
    @Andrew

    James Madison Memorial or West?

  307. Aside from Trump’s positions, the failed money spent by the GOP Establishment and mainstream conservatives is a major factor in why they are so angry with him.

    Bush – $142M
    Rubio – $98M
    Cruz – $88M
    Carson – $69M
    Walker – $32M
    Kasich – $28M
    Fiorina – $20M
    Perry – $17M
    Graham – $10M

    That would be $500,000,000 wasted losing to a man running as a Carnival Barker and winning. That has to hurt.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Andrew

    hahahaa! So funny and true. Money, money, money, must be funny in the rich man's world.

  308. @Mr. Anon
    @Cwhatfuture

    Cruz looks like a cross between Larry Linville and Murray Hamilton; it isn't going to help him in the General. It's shallow and unfair, to be sure. Looks shouldn't matter, but they do, apparently, to a lot of people.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Old fogey

    We humans respond automatically to people based on looks – part of our evolutionary baggage, I would assume. Don’t knock your immediate reaction to people – it’s part of human biology.

  309. @Anonymous
    @Jefferson


    “Loesch is part of Conservatism Inc”

    No she is not. She has been a genuine Ted Cruz supporter ever since he first announced his presidency, back when there was like 300 candidates in the GOP field running for POTUS. She is not a former Little Marco or Low Energy Jeb supporter, who only now supports Ted because he is the lesser of 2 evils compared to Donald Trump.
     

    The conservative movement really is low IQ when a gun-nut mommy blogger without a college education is a prominent voice in the conservative movement.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “The conservative movement really is low IQ when a gun-nut mommy blogger without a college education is a prominent voice in the conservative movement.”

    What’s wrong with being a gun nut? I would rather have an armed to the teeth White population than one that is not.

  310. Whoops I guess pointing out that Steve’s candidate Cruz mainly appeals to people who embody the SNL Church Lady skit means I get Komment Kontrolled.

  311. @celt darnell
    @Lagertha

    I agree with Twinkie's response to you.

    The end of the two-party system in the UK, from the Whig-Tory divide in the Eighteenth and Nineteenth centuries to the Labour-Conservative divide in the 20th has been a disaster.

    We've been in trouble in the UK for some time now, but ever since we've followed the Europeans down the multi-party path we've really gone down the toilet. I would strongly urge the US never to go down that road.

    The reality is that despite the constant complaints by Americans that the Republicans and Democrats are basically the same, the two American parties are far more different from each other than the Continental European ones are.

    When people vote, they're voting as much against as for -- and the two party system means both are usually a broad coalition of interests. A bunch of single-issue parties makes it easier to isolate and ignore "fringe" views.

    It's also actually easier for the Social Justice Warriors (SJW) to hijack several parties than just one -- in the present-day UK, the Scottish Nationalists, Welsh Nationalists, (Northern) Irish Nationalists, Liberal Democrats, Greens and Labour are all SJW parties. So are, I would argue, the Tories. That leaves UKIP with one seat in the House of Commons -- them and the Ulster Unionists -- as the only anti-SJW party. Pretty much a clean sweep, then, for the SJW.

    We were better off with just a SJW Labour Party and an anti-SJW Conservative Party.

    For the record, I'm not saying the two-party system can't ossify -- and the combined GOP/DEM collaboration on open-door immigration is an example of this. But just as the Federalists and the Whigs went the way the of the dinosaurs, the same thing is likely to happen to the Republicans. Because either the Republican party moves in the direction of Trump's anti-immigrant, anti invade the world/invite the world, oligarchy-loving present incarnation or it disappears.

    Much better the Dems end up facing a united America First Party than a fragmented collection of opposition parties -- many of which will, sooner or later, be SJW dominated.

    Replies: @Lagertha

    I get what you’re saying, BUT 🙂 USA needs a 3rd party of some kind because for someone like me (and there are many who believe this) who is socially liberal (I’m fine with abortions, LGBT, am a proponent of assisted suicide, or just plain suicide; believe in public schools, libraries, decent roads, airports that run efficiently, bridges that don’t fall down, public transportation, public beaches, ASPCA, clean food free of GMO’s, clean water,focus on the environment and animal/plant welfare, single-payer health insurance….many things) and fiscally conservative; there is NO party for me.

    I also don’t want any more wars in the middle-east, don’t want build-up of American military in the world, am skeptical about the efficacy of the UN (duh), want to cease sending money to many countries who hate the USA, want to scale-back NATO; steadfastly believe in global climate change and severe ecological degradation at the hands of human population explosion (the sh*tloads of plastic swerling around the oceans , for instance – stuff I mentioned a year ago); I want restricted immigration, scrutiny of visas, no more H1B visa storm troopers, and, lastly, I don’t want to talk about religion at all – religion of all kinds, is out-of-bounds of public policy. I don’t like religiosity to seep into any public business/policy. I belong to a church, but it is my private life.

    Your very detailed post, however, showcases how different England is (than my Finland which I referred to in my original post) and all the various camps within England that seem divided by micro-ethnic groups/cultures/traditions or regions going back generations/centuries. Finland does not have so many variegated identity groups within its region, like UK. Finland’s parties: National Coalition Party, Social Democratic Party, Left Alliance, Center Party, Green Party, Finns Party, Swedish People’s Party, and the Pirate Party! (personal favorite of my son in name only!) The Communist Party fell apart,(big-time duh:) after USSR collapsed.

    Lastly, SJWs have a hard time with an alpha female like me…I have had many tedious discussions with “the type” for decades. That’s why, in a few years, I will retreat to deep nature as retirement calls! I just want to ski, hike, ride and smell the wildflowers, read books and surf. My sons will be well on their way; am so proud of them.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Lagertha


    Lastly, SJWs have a hard time with an alpha female like me
     
    1. I don't think you are even a blip on the SJW radar, what with your support for "abortions, LGBT, GMO-free food," etc. (what anti-science stupidity - ask Razib Khan about the whole GMO thing).

    2. Alpha female? https://youtu.be/KAOmTMCtGkI

    What is it with all this "alpha" talk on the Internet?

    Replies: @Lagertha

    , @Twinkie
    @Lagertha


    Finland does not have so many variegated identity groups within its region, like UK. Finland’s parties: National Coalition Party, Social Democratic Party, Left Alliance, Center Party, Green Party, Finns Party, Swedish People’s Party, and the Pirate Party! (personal favorite of my son in name only!) The Communist Party fell apart,(big-time duh:) after USSR collapsed.
     
    It matters very little geopolitically whether Finland has 2 parties or 100 parties. It's an insignificant country. The UK (or worse, the U.S.) becoming fractured into fringe parties matters much more to the rest of the world.

    Replies: @Lagertha

    , @celt darnell
    @Lagertha

    Well, I have no issue with your politics (even if I'm not sure how to reconcile fiscal conservatism with the massive public spending and services you're proposing) nor do I have any problem with your dislike of the Republicans, but...

    ...while you're correct that the UK is "divided by micro-ethnic groups/cultures/traditions or regions going back generations/centuries," aside from the "centuries" bit, do you not think the US is also riddled with similar divisions that the Dems and Repubs are currently papering over?

    It seems to me the US bears a closer resemblance to the UK than it does Finland....

    I also suspect that the continuing and increased levels of immigration will augment those divisions.

    I don't think you need a third party -- I think you need the Republicans to be replaced entirely.

    Just my opinion....

    Replies: @Lagertha

  312. @Andrew
    Aside from Trump's positions, the failed money spent by the GOP Establishment and mainstream conservatives is a major factor in why they are so angry with him.

    Bush - $142M
    Rubio - $98M
    Cruz - $88M
    Carson - $69M
    Walker - $32M
    Kasich - $28M
    Fiorina - $20M
    Perry - $17M
    Graham - $10M

    That would be $500,000,000 wasted losing to a man running as a Carnival Barker and winning. That has to hurt.

    Replies: @Lagertha

    hahahaa! So funny and true. Money, money, money, must be funny in the rich man’s world.

  313. Regarding Donald Trump’s positions, I think I have been actually listening to what he has stated and would like to list the following:

    Domestic
    1) Deport illegal immigrants and build wall on Mexican Border, to be paid for by Mexico
    2) Combat and interdict heroin smuggling from Mexico
    3) Rebuild, expand, and modernize national infrastructure – roads, air, rail, ports, etc.
    4) Terminate Department of Education and restore to States
    5) End Common Core
    6) End budget deficits and pay down national debt
    7) Sell BLM and Forest Service lands and mineral rights to pay down national debt
    8) Support for western ranchers and extraction industries against BLM and NWS
    9) Cut personal income tax rates, but raise Hedge Fund carried interest tax rate
    10) Cut corporate tax rate and end tax giveaways
    11) Repatriate American corporation stranded foreign profits
    12) Trade protectionism with China, Mexico, and Japan
    13) Treat trade relations as a mercantile exercise intended to make maximum profits for the American people (think Mencius Moldbug’s view of how government should work)
    14) End Obamacare
    15) Universal healthcare for the poor via by direct payments to hospitals.
    16) Renegotiate Medicare/Medicaid drug prices
    17) Strengthen existing Social Security system

    Cultural
    1) Defund Planned Parenthood abortion operation but otherwise leave them alone
    2) Anti political correctness
    3) Support for public Christianity
    4) Not much noise about gay marriage and banning abortion

    Military
    1) Stronger (not necessarily bigger) US military
    2) More efficient weapons procurement
    3) Support for Veterans

    Foreign Policy
    1) Rework NATO to face modern day problems not Russia
    2) Abandon the Neocon anti-Russia campaign and reach out a hand of friendship to Russia
    3) Extort protection money/tribute from our military protectorates (Japan, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Germany specifically)
    4) Focus on smashing international Islamic terrorism
    5) Temporary hold on all inbound travel to US by Muslims (something like a new Asian Exclusion Zone?)

    Its refreshing that I finally have a candidate to vote for that I support on nearly every position. We all know what the handful of issues that has the establishment all riled up. Most of it is taking away special interest rent seeking behavior, a big part is reshaping relations with Mexico on immigration and trade, and the rest is reshaping foreign and trade policy in a directly America First manner that most people thought died with Senator Robert Taft in 1953.

  314. @Twinkie
    @Anonym


    When the white demographic has no practical remaining chance to dominate the electorate, there will be a “What do you mean ‘we’, paleface?” moment from him and those like him.
     
    1. I am more pale-faced than most Mediterranean whites (though I tan easily under the sun). Last time I checked, people of my ethnicity are often lumped into "lily white" category by leftist race hustlers.

    2. I've shed blood for this, my adopted country, that I love so dearly. You think I'll sell out my beloved wife, her kin, and my children (who are half-white), and my friends and blood-brothers once the demographics of this country changes? Are you some kind of stupid?

    3. If I were interested in self-interest of a certain sort, with my elite credentials and affluence, I could be playing the whole SWPL/SWJ/leftist elite game TODAY. Lord knows my actual moral and philosophical views have been a hindrance to my careers and social acceptance, not a benefit. As it were, I find such a game repellent in the extreme.

    4. As a general comment (one that pertains to you as well), it seems to me that a lot of "white nationalist" types are so emotionally invested in the "everybody hates white males" meme that they would rather engage in the self-fulfilling prophesy of pre-emptively being hostile to everyone else ("See! He hates me! That's why I hated him first! And let him know it too!"), rather than actually embracing and working with earnest allies.

    Replies: @Anonym, @Jefferson, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    4. As a general comment (one that pertains to you as well), it seems to me that a lot of “white nationalist” types are so emotionally invested in the “everybody hates white males”

    There is also the beta male Cuck Wing of the White Nationalist movement. These are the low self esteem types, who believe White men are considered extremely undesirable in the dating market because Black guys get all of the women. They blame the fact that they are virgins who have never had a girlfriend on Black guys and Jews for using some type of voodoo that makes attractive women only date Black guys. These White nationalists have lower self esteem than a Chinese nerd. It’s pathetic.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Jefferson

    LMAO!

    I get the feeling you have someone specific in mind.

    Replies: @Anonym

    , @Stephen R. Diamond
    @Jefferson


    These White nationalists have lower self esteem than a Chinese nerd. It’s pathetic.
     
    What's with this ragging on folks with low self esteem?
  315. @Lagertha
    @celt darnell

    I get what you're saying, BUT :) USA needs a 3rd party of some kind because for someone like me (and there are many who believe this) who is socially liberal (I'm fine with abortions, LGBT, am a proponent of assisted suicide, or just plain suicide; believe in public schools, libraries, decent roads, airports that run efficiently, bridges that don't fall down, public transportation, public beaches, ASPCA, clean food free of GMO's, clean water,focus on the environment and animal/plant welfare, single-payer health insurance....many things) and fiscally conservative; there is NO party for me.

    I also don't want any more wars in the middle-east, don't want build-up of American military in the world, am skeptical about the efficacy of the UN (duh), want to cease sending money to many countries who hate the USA, want to scale-back NATO; steadfastly believe in global climate change and severe ecological degradation at the hands of human population explosion (the sh*tloads of plastic swerling around the oceans , for instance - stuff I mentioned a year ago); I want restricted immigration, scrutiny of visas, no more H1B visa storm troopers, and, lastly, I don't want to talk about religion at all - religion of all kinds, is out-of-bounds of public policy. I don't like religiosity to seep into any public business/policy. I belong to a church, but it is my private life.

    Your very detailed post, however, showcases how different England is (than my Finland which I referred to in my original post) and all the various camps within England that seem divided by micro-ethnic groups/cultures/traditions or regions going back generations/centuries. Finland does not have so many variegated identity groups within its region, like UK. Finland's parties: National Coalition Party, Social Democratic Party, Left Alliance, Center Party, Green Party, Finns Party, Swedish People's Party, and the Pirate Party! (personal favorite of my son in name only!) The Communist Party fell apart,(big-time duh:) after USSR collapsed.

    Lastly, SJWs have a hard time with an alpha female like me...I have had many tedious discussions with "the type" for decades. That's why, in a few years, I will retreat to deep nature as retirement calls! I just want to ski, hike, ride and smell the wildflowers, read books and surf. My sons will be well on their way; am so proud of them.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Twinkie, @celt darnell

    Lastly, SJWs have a hard time with an alpha female like me

    1. I don’t think you are even a blip on the SJW radar, what with your support for “abortions, LGBT, GMO-free food,” etc. (what anti-science stupidity – ask Razib Khan about the whole GMO thing).

    2. Alpha female?

    What is it with all this “alpha” talk on the Internet?

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Twinkie

    hahahaa you are such an obsessive! The "alpha talk" is just as relevant as any mainstream facebook post of random people.

    Steve likes people to fight and get all INSULTED...don't you get that? - it's good for his blog. I really, really, really don't want to fight with you over ANYTHING anymore, ever, but you sometimes need to NOT chime-in on posts of people ( me, too, plz!) who you have stated, ad nauseam, are not as smart, intellectual, successful and amazing as you. I want to like you, but you make it so hard - maybe it's me, not you.

    Replies: @Truth, @Twinkie

  316. @Lagertha
    @celt darnell

    I get what you're saying, BUT :) USA needs a 3rd party of some kind because for someone like me (and there are many who believe this) who is socially liberal (I'm fine with abortions, LGBT, am a proponent of assisted suicide, or just plain suicide; believe in public schools, libraries, decent roads, airports that run efficiently, bridges that don't fall down, public transportation, public beaches, ASPCA, clean food free of GMO's, clean water,focus on the environment and animal/plant welfare, single-payer health insurance....many things) and fiscally conservative; there is NO party for me.

    I also don't want any more wars in the middle-east, don't want build-up of American military in the world, am skeptical about the efficacy of the UN (duh), want to cease sending money to many countries who hate the USA, want to scale-back NATO; steadfastly believe in global climate change and severe ecological degradation at the hands of human population explosion (the sh*tloads of plastic swerling around the oceans , for instance - stuff I mentioned a year ago); I want restricted immigration, scrutiny of visas, no more H1B visa storm troopers, and, lastly, I don't want to talk about religion at all - religion of all kinds, is out-of-bounds of public policy. I don't like religiosity to seep into any public business/policy. I belong to a church, but it is my private life.

    Your very detailed post, however, showcases how different England is (than my Finland which I referred to in my original post) and all the various camps within England that seem divided by micro-ethnic groups/cultures/traditions or regions going back generations/centuries. Finland does not have so many variegated identity groups within its region, like UK. Finland's parties: National Coalition Party, Social Democratic Party, Left Alliance, Center Party, Green Party, Finns Party, Swedish People's Party, and the Pirate Party! (personal favorite of my son in name only!) The Communist Party fell apart,(big-time duh:) after USSR collapsed.

    Lastly, SJWs have a hard time with an alpha female like me...I have had many tedious discussions with "the type" for decades. That's why, in a few years, I will retreat to deep nature as retirement calls! I just want to ski, hike, ride and smell the wildflowers, read books and surf. My sons will be well on their way; am so proud of them.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Twinkie, @celt darnell

    Finland does not have so many variegated identity groups within its region, like UK. Finland’s parties: National Coalition Party, Social Democratic Party, Left Alliance, Center Party, Green Party, Finns Party, Swedish People’s Party, and the Pirate Party! (personal favorite of my son in name only!) The Communist Party fell apart,(big-time duh:) after USSR collapsed.

    It matters very little geopolitically whether Finland has 2 parties or 100 parties. It’s an insignificant country. The UK (or worse, the U.S.) becoming fractured into fringe parties matters much more to the rest of the world.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Twinkie

    and...yes...that was my point.

  317. @Andrew
    Just made it through all of this. Comments on Wisconsin as a Republican former 10 year resident who matriculated from high school in Madison:

    1) Trump won the Driftless area and the Canadian Shield. These are the agriculturally poor rural areas in the west and north of the state. Economically they are former mining and timber areas. They are essentially equivalent demographicaly and economically to places like western Massachusetts, West Virginia, upstate New York, northern Maine, northern Pennsylvania. These areas typically lean Democratic in general elections.

    2) Cruz won the agriculturally rich moraine and drumlin area between Janesville and Green Bay between Milwaukee and Madison. This area includes the rich suburbs of Milwaukee. This is one of the most fertile agricultural areas in the country, comparable to northwest Iowa, western Michigan, and Lancaster/York in Pennsylvania. This area is the Republican heartland of the state.

    3) Wisconsin is doing well enough economically since it has an educated and industrious populace. It is not truly a rust belt state, and anyone who has ever been there would know that. Milwaukee is by far the major midwestern city outside Chicago with the most remaining economic vitality and has barely lost population (compared to St. Louis, Cleveland, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, which lost 50% or more).

    4) Trump is correct about what Governor Walker is doing to the state. He is neglecting the infrastructure, which is falling apart because of doctrinaire anti-tax dogmas preventing raising the gas tax. He has also attacking the public schools and the University of Wisconsin because that is the liberal power base, but in doing so he is damaging them, not understanding that they are a major factor in the success of his state. That is typical shortsighted Republican behavior - milk the cow as long as you can before slaughtering it. The Republican base in Wisconsin may not want to hear it, but its true. A typical dick move of Governor Walker was cancelling the expansion of the Amtrak Hiawatha train service to Madison (currently it runs Milwaukee to Chicago, serving the area of Governor Walker's base). The state had already spent a lot of money on it, and it had hundreds of millions of free federal money lined up to pay for all remaining costs. But because the service would have mainly benefited his political enemies in Madison, he cancelled the project, costing the state all of the federal grant money and over $50 million more of its own money to wind down previously agreed to contracts. Walker is basically a petty shortsighted sockpuppet, which was shown right after he was elected to office by a fake Koch Brother's prank call by a liberal radio talk show that he fell for. But dammit, he's OUR sockpuppet, so the Republican voters support him.

    5) Wisconsin's dairy farms have become heavily dependent on illegal aliens to perform the actual work of daily milking. The farms are now huge operations with thousands of cattle that replaced the old 100 head operations that used to dot the state. This use of illegals and legal Mexicans for dairy operations is actively promoted by the state government. The milk industry is heavily regulated and subsidized and requires daily attention and hard labor. White people just don't want to do it anymore. Anti-immigrant message went over predictably like a lead balloon.

    6) Wisconsin polls. A lot of delusion about what these shows has been evinced here.
    Cruz-Trump-Kasich
    4/5/16 Primary 48-35-14
    4/3/16 ARG 32-42-23
    4/3/16 Emerson 40-35-21
    4/1/16 CBS 43-37-18
    3/30/16 Fox 42-32-19
    3/30/16 Loras 38-31-18
    3/29/16 PPP 38-37-17
    3/28/16 Marquette 40-30-21
    3/24/16 Optimus 25-29-27
    3/22/16 Emerson 36-35-19
    3/20/16 Basswood 36-31-21

    Except for the ARG outlier poll and bizarre online Optimus poll, Trump was clearly losing for over two weeks (even before Utah and the Melania ad and Heidi retweet), and the numbers barely changed. His poll average was 33% and he got 35%. Cruz was averaging 39% and got 48%. Kasich lost a few points of his polling and the undecided mostly went to Cruz. Why anyone is surprised or distraught by the results is beyond me.

    Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond, @Olorin

    White people just don’t want to do it anymore.

    Dismaying to find this standard open-borderist talking point in an otherwise very informative comment.

    • Replies: @Andrew
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    Wisconsin’s dairy farms have become heavily dependent on illegal aliens to perform the actual work of daily milking. The farms are now huge operations with thousands of cattle that replaced the old 100 head operations that used to dot the state. This use of illegals and legal Mexicans for dairy operations is actively promoted by the state government. The milk industry is heavily regulated and subsidized and requires daily attention and hard labor. White people just don’t want to do it anymore. Anti-immigrant message went over predictably like a lead balloon.

    Dismaying to find this standard open-borderist talking point in an otherwise very informative comment.

    I included my whole comment above.

    My family were small scale dairy operators in Pennsylvania and Indiana (less than 100 head) which were run by my great uncles and their sons. I used to help with the corn harvest around Thanksgiving. First vehicle I ever operated besides a rail locomotive (another uncle was a Trainmaster) was a combine harvester.

    My one great uncle in Indiana lasted longest in the business. He had a 400 acre farm and milked his herd himself with the help of one son until he was 75. One time while he was running the farm he left for a vacation in Panama City, leaving his son in charge. While he was away and the son was in charge, several of the cows died. He blamed himself for not being there and never took another vacation or day off in his life. Milking twice a day 5:00 am and 5:00 pm, day in and day out for over 50 years. Do you know many people willing to run that schedule and lifestyle? He had four kids, and only his one son was interested in continuing the family farm, but he got injured doing farm work in his late 40's and could not take over. None of his grandsons from his two sons and two daughters wanted in on the business even though they lived right next to the farm on two parcels carved out of its north field and worked it as teenagers. He doesn't lack for descendants - he is now patriarch of an extended family numbering around 80 including spouses. He still operates his farm, but now as a 200 acre cash grain business, which is essentially an easy retirement. He keeps working because he uses the farm to grow most of his own food (his wife cans most of what they eat). When he had an active herd, he used to kill a cow or two or a couple of male calves ever year and butcher them to provide meat for a year.

    Multiply this story all over dairy country, but for most farmers, include far fewer descendants in the extended family able to take over. Old time operators are selling out, and the ones staying in the business or entering the business are moving to much larger industrial sized operations with thousands of head in the herds. This requires dozens of workers to handle the twice daily milking and is essentially running an agri-business as opposed to being a family farmer.

    My comment was that white people are not willing to go and work these farms in the conditions offered, which are dictated by the very low subsidized milk wholesale prices and regulated maximum retail prices. They aren't. Its reality, deal with it, okay? The conditions, hours, and prospects for advancement all suck, and the cost of entry to be your own operator after gaining experience is enormous while you are at a cost disadvantage due to lacking the volume of the big boys. My great uncle's 400 acre operation would cost millions for someone to purchase now and would be considered very small scale with an average of 50-100 head. Land alone would be a few million in the better areas, then add on another million more for many combines, tractors, ploughs, etc., plus the sunk cost of purchasing the buildings. If you were trying to run a 1000 head herd, scale the whole operation purchase cost up by a factor of 10 and consider the entry price to get 4000 acres and facilities for 1000 cows.

    Outside the Amish (my distant family background was Amish-Mennonite) and Hutterites, there are few large farm families any more to provide free farm labor and there is much less rural community with fewer rural inhabitants. Illegal and legal Mexicans abound, and the state governments and Feds actively push their use through formal government run jobs programs in farm labor to keep down farm wages and food prices. Mark my words, the government will next push for programs to subsidize their entry into farm ownership once the current generation of farmers dies off. This has been an active thing in places like eastern Washington State for 20 years.

    I'm not supporting this paradigm, I am trying to communicate to you reality. The typical Republican farmer is voting for illegals and open borders because that is what keeps his business running. Maybe you missed the Wisconsin Republican debate where this point kept coming up over and over.

    Why do you think these people running farms in states like Wisconsin will vote for Trump sending the Mexicans home? Who do you think is going to come and milk all these cows now? SJW's from Madison? Inner city blacks from Milwaukee?

    The family farm is pretty well dead and buried in much of the country outside Amish communities and hardscrabble poor areas. Maybe you missed the midwest farm crisis in the 80's when this happened and the family farms were bankrupted and steadily consolidated into ever more massive businesses. It was a major factor in the defeat of Bush in 1988 in Wisconsin, Iowa, and Minnesota.

    I'm not trying to be bigoted here. White people do want to farm, especially people from rural areas, but even people growing up in rural states like Wisconsin, Iowa, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina. I knew people in the city of Madison growing up who took the agricultural studies program offered at high school and went into the business in the early 1990's. But the way many of them want to farm is either as large operators running cheap labor enterprises that are little different from slave plantations or as small scale organic hobby farms that cannot possibly produce food on the scale demanded by the world market. The family farmer paradigm is very dead, and died when the farmers mechanized and stopping having large families. It took a few decades for the remaining family farm owners to die off, retire, or sell out from low prices, but we came and passed that point a couple decades back.

    Do we want something different for our country? Sure! The only way that is going to happen is to force out the illegal labor force, raise wages, descale operations and improve working conditions for non-owner labor, embrace additional technology, restore promotion of large farm families, dismantle the agricultural subsidies programs, and let retail food prices of essentials like milk, eggs, meat, vegetables, and fruit significantly rise. You can imagine the political ruckus that sort of rural revolution would create as all manner of applecarts are upset.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

  318. rvg says:

    Use your fucking brain the only reason why parties like Jobbik, True Finns, or even why the FN existed in the first place is because of a proportional representation system that allows small parties to exist, without them being forced to tack to the center, which is what would happen in a two party system. Basically in a 2 party system any small parties would have to make themselves centrist (which means that they would be coopted by the establishment) in order to appear on the ballot.

  319. @rod1963
    @TangoMan

    I agree with all that. Problem is you can't say any of that at Pro-Trump sites because they go nuts. They think Trump is infallible. He's not, he's shot himself in the foot more than once. His failure to fund a serious ground game in the fly over states hurt him badly - all because he's a cheap ass, his failure to address certain issues in some degree of specificity in public in a non flip flop manner like H1-B visa workers. In one debate he said he supported bringing in more H1-B workers then said the opposite afterwards.

    I suspect he doesn't listen to his advisers much or even read his position papers.

    His rallies are all the same, he gives a generic rah, rah speech with next to zero specifics. It's not bad, but with no ground game and ad campaign to follow it up, it fails to bring him the wins he needs.

    His interviews aren't much better, broad generalities and no specifics on much of anything. It's not a confidence builder at all.

    And what the hell was he doing even talking to Chris Matthews anyways. Was Trump taking his stupid pills or something? Mr. Tingly hates Trump and ambushed him good. And abortion is a serious hot button issue and he blew it. Even Roger Stone said as much in a polite manner.

    And yeah on delegate selection he's totally blown it. He let Cruz carve him up on this. I guess he couldn't be bothered to hire the talent and invest the resource to make sure delegate flipping didn't happen.

    He's so desperate for free PR he goes on every two bit radio or tv talk show he can find. All it does it bite him.

    All these little wounds add up.

    One other thing, He needs to show a more presidential persona in his rallies and selected interviews, he needs to tone down the rah, rah stuff and start talking like a statesmen. It really does impress a lot of people when it's done right.

    Replies: @TangoMan, @Twinkie, @Bert, @Boethius

    “His rallies are all the same, he gives a generic rah, rah speech with next to zero specifics. It’s not bad, but with no ground game and ad campaign to follow it up, it fails to bring him the wins he needs.”

    That’s exactly right. His rallies have been powerful pieces of political theater, because the people who attend them can see the strength of other Americans who agree with them, instead of being cowed by PC police.

    But, that and free media, that’s his only cards in the deck. And where those rallies were powerful six months ago, they’re going to lose value going forward, because they’ve been done already and there’s no more pull to them.

    As much as people talk about how Trump has changed the character of the race (and he certainly has) it’s at least as important to note that the presence of 10+ other candidates has presented Trump in a favorable light as well.

    Trump couldn’t handle uninterrupted attention (and wasn’t expected to). Fiorina responds to being called ugly, Ben Carson begs the moderator for a question, etc., you can get by by just winging it, and Trump did. That’s not going to work for a general election. The amount of attention is greater, and the outlets for it are fewer.

  320. @Anonymous
    Are these events (Sea Island meeting and Michelle Fields' allegations) related?


    The weekend of March 5 & 6 - Republican big shots and others convene at Sea Island, GA apparently to discuss how to "Stop Trump."

    Tues., March 8 - Michelle Fields' boyfriend, Jamie Weinstein, tweets: "Trump always surrounds himself w thugs. Tonight thug Corey Lewandowski tried to pull my gf @MichelleFields to ground when she asked tough q".

    Thurs., March 10 - Michelle Fields posts an article on Breitbart.com describing how Corey Lewandowski purportedly grabbed her arm in a manner rough enough to cause it to bruise.

    Fri., March 11 - The Independent Journal reported that Fields filed a criminal complaint against Lewandowski in Jupiter, Florida.

    Tues., March 29 - Jupiter Police charge Lewandowski with misdemeanor simple battery.

    Since the meeting and Michelle Fields' allegations, Trump's campaign has stumbled, his poll numbers have fallen, and Cruz has gotten stronger. Was this by design?

    Replies: @Boethius

    I can’t see why they would be. Michelle Fields was a pro-Trump reporter working for a pro-Trump outlet. It’s ridiculous how for some people here any action by any Republican automatically is assumed to be some kind of sellout, open borders, globalist, permanent war for Israel blah blah blah.

    Except for Donald Trump. For him, the Michelle Fields of the world, the students of Trump University the people who think he’s going to spend money on the campaign, can’t seem to register at all.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Boethius


    I can’t see why they would be. Michelle Fields was a pro-Trump reporter working for a pro-Trump outlet. It’s ridiculous how for some people here any action by any Republican automatically is assumed to be some kind of sellout, open borders, globalist, permanent war for Israel blah blah blah.
     
    The whole "Lyin' Ted" bit from the Trump campaign is not only juvenile, but a complete inversion. It's the Trump campaign that lied about Corey Lewandowski's unnecessary roughness toward Fields and has continued to lie even after the video footage surfaced. Fields, being a Trump supporter, was perfectly willing to drop the matter for just a simple, private apology, but Trump's campaign was not even willing to concede this - which tells me that the people in that campaign have a serious problem with admitting any flaw, however miniscule.

    Also, the whole episode tells me that the Trump campaign is made up of amateurs. They fell for the classic roping technique, which is campaign 101. When you have a negative footage of an opponent, you sit on it, and make that opponent just keep making up lies to cover himself (because he believes there is no footage: "If there were a footage, surely my enemies would have released it already. I am safe to deny!"). Then after the said opponent has notched up a denial after a denial and dug himself in deeper, you release the footage to show what a shameless liar he is. It's a complete amateur hour at that campaign, with multiple unforced errors.

    Replies: @Anonym, @Boethius

  321. @Twinkie
    @Lagertha


    Finland does not have so many variegated identity groups within its region, like UK. Finland’s parties: National Coalition Party, Social Democratic Party, Left Alliance, Center Party, Green Party, Finns Party, Swedish People’s Party, and the Pirate Party! (personal favorite of my son in name only!) The Communist Party fell apart,(big-time duh:) after USSR collapsed.
     
    It matters very little geopolitically whether Finland has 2 parties or 100 parties. It's an insignificant country. The UK (or worse, the U.S.) becoming fractured into fringe parties matters much more to the rest of the world.

    Replies: @Lagertha

    and…yes…that was my point.

  322. @Jefferson
    @Twinkie

    4. As a general comment (one that pertains to you as well), it seems to me that a lot of “white nationalist” types are so emotionally invested in the “everybody hates white males”

    There is also the beta male Cuck Wing of the White Nationalist movement. These are the low self esteem types, who believe White men are considered extremely undesirable in the dating market because Black guys get all of the women. They blame the fact that they are virgins who have never had a girlfriend on Black guys and Jews for using some type of voodoo that makes attractive women only date Black guys. These White nationalists have lower self esteem than a Chinese nerd. It's pathetic.

    Replies: @Truth, @Stephen R. Diamond

    LMAO!

    I get the feeling you have someone specific in mind.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @Truth

    Whiskey would never blame it on the Jews, stalwart friends as they are of the Scots-Irish.

  323. @Twinkie
    @Lagertha


    Lastly, SJWs have a hard time with an alpha female like me
     
    1. I don't think you are even a blip on the SJW radar, what with your support for "abortions, LGBT, GMO-free food," etc. (what anti-science stupidity - ask Razib Khan about the whole GMO thing).

    2. Alpha female? https://youtu.be/KAOmTMCtGkI

    What is it with all this "alpha" talk on the Internet?

    Replies: @Lagertha

    hahahaa you are such an obsessive! The “alpha talk” is just as relevant as any mainstream facebook post of random people.

    Steve likes people to fight and get all INSULTED…don’t you get that? – it’s good for his blog. I really, really, really don’t want to fight with you over ANYTHING anymore, ever, but you sometimes need to NOT chime-in on posts of people ( me, too, plz!) who you have stated, ad nauseam, are not as smart, intellectual, successful and amazing as you. I want to like you, but you make it so hard – maybe it’s me, not you.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Lagertha


    maybe it’s me, not you.
     
    I don't know, maybe not.
    , @Twinkie
    @Lagertha


    The “alpha talk” is just as relevant as any mainstream facebook post of random people.
     
    I don't know - I don't use Facebook or any type of social media, as I consider that the domain of teenage girls. But I am old fashioned.

    I want to like you, but you make it so hard – maybe it’s me, not you.
     
    Yes, it might be you - telling a stranger that you find his estimation of a particular political talent makes him "gross" to you and then expecting no negative response is, well, a bit self-indulgent. Given your calumny toward me, I think I have been rather mild, droll even.

    Despite all that, *I* still like you - or at least your online persona, "Lagertha." You remind me of those Sarah Lawrence girls of my youth who were so very desperate to date an Ivy Leaguer, and constantly told me how they really got into an Ivy but turned it down. I always find that type very adorable.
  324. @C
    @Boethius

    I'm curious as to why you think Cruz could beat Hillary.

    It can't be the polls. General election polls mean nothing right now. No one seriously believes John Kasich would win the general, which is what they are saying.

    If Cruz "wins" the nomination at the convention, a huge swath of Trump voters will stay home as they'll feel Trump has been screwed (and he will have been screwed). They'll rightly feel like the GOP doesn't care about their vote.

    On top of that, it will be easy for the MSM and Hillary to smack Cruz around on all his policy positions in which he has basically flopped from globalist to nationalist to copy Trump. Working class whites (and to a lesser extent minorities) aren't going to vote for Mr. TPP himself.

    And oh, by the way, if you think Trump screwed up on abortion and alienated women, just wait until Hillary goes all in on Cruz. At least Trump said Planned Parenthood should be funded outside of abortion.

    And that doesn't even get into his wife working for Goldman Sachs, possible sex scandal, birther arguments, etc.

    The only thing that Cruz POSSIBLY has going for him is the election of Supreme Court justices. However, its unlikely that a lot of working class Trump voters are going to care about that that much to actually vote for the guy who stole their vote.

    Trump is the only possible nominee who can beat Hillary.

    Replies: @Boethius

    “It can’t be the polls. General election polls mean nothing right now. No one seriously believes John Kasich would win the general, which is what they are saying.”

    I don’t want to raise needless antagonism, but it seems to me that this is wrong and stupid. Of course John Kasich would win the general election.

    But the overall point is ridiculous. I can’t think of a recent cycle where the polls at this point of the year were meaningless. They weren’t. They aren’t.

    But the delusion is even worse, because there’s an implicit sense that The Donald’s weakness as a general election candidate is limited to this week’s polls, which of course is ridiculous in its own right. Among other things, there’s the reality that Donald’s approval among women is 20 some percent. And most importantly, there’s no reason to think that he’ll be able to rally from where he is now, and lots of reasons to think he will deflate even further.

  325. @Steve Sailer
    @Suburban Dad

    If you can get into Stanford, go to Stanford.

    That's part of my contra-contrarianism.

    Replies: @Lagertha

    totally agree! OT: Can you just post something totally new – international news would help, btw – (Armenia & Azerbaijan needs your sarcastic attention big time !) to get fracking Twinkie off my back? When I think of Twinkie, I have this fear of an evil cartoon character wanting to just stomp on me…Ghostbusters Doughboy???

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Lagertha


    to get fracking Twinkie off my back?
     
    Are you asking daddy for help? I thought you were a big girl! That, too, is very Sarah Lawrence girls-like.

    When I think of Twinkie, I have this fear of an evil cartoon character wanting to just stomp on me…Ghostbusters Doughboy???
     
    I am not THAT white, and have a much better physique. Besides, you need not worry. I am very sweet to puppies, children, and little old ladies... a bit like Uncle Adolf, I suppose.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  326. @Lagertha
    @Twinkie

    hahahaa you are such an obsessive! The "alpha talk" is just as relevant as any mainstream facebook post of random people.

    Steve likes people to fight and get all INSULTED...don't you get that? - it's good for his blog. I really, really, really don't want to fight with you over ANYTHING anymore, ever, but you sometimes need to NOT chime-in on posts of people ( me, too, plz!) who you have stated, ad nauseam, are not as smart, intellectual, successful and amazing as you. I want to like you, but you make it so hard - maybe it's me, not you.

    Replies: @Truth, @Twinkie

    maybe it’s me, not you.

    I don’t know, maybe not.

  327. @Jefferson
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    "If you give your loyalty to a “self-funding” billionaire, he at least shouldn’t be a cheapskate! (What kind of budget deal was Lewandowski for campaign manager?)"

    Donald Trump is waiting for the general election to spend the big bucks. He doesn't think it is worth it to spend so much money in the primaries.

    Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond

    But Trump has not committed to self-funding in the general! (He says candidates who take big-donor contributions are bought … yet refuses to rule out that he will take these contributions. Makes a lot of sense.)

  328. @Jefferson
    @Twinkie

    4. As a general comment (one that pertains to you as well), it seems to me that a lot of “white nationalist” types are so emotionally invested in the “everybody hates white males”

    There is also the beta male Cuck Wing of the White Nationalist movement. These are the low self esteem types, who believe White men are considered extremely undesirable in the dating market because Black guys get all of the women. They blame the fact that they are virgins who have never had a girlfriend on Black guys and Jews for using some type of voodoo that makes attractive women only date Black guys. These White nationalists have lower self esteem than a Chinese nerd. It's pathetic.

    Replies: @Truth, @Stephen R. Diamond

    These White nationalists have lower self esteem than a Chinese nerd. It’s pathetic.

    What’s with this ragging on folks with low self esteem?

  329. @Lagertha
    @Twinkie

    hahahaa you are such an obsessive! The "alpha talk" is just as relevant as any mainstream facebook post of random people.

    Steve likes people to fight and get all INSULTED...don't you get that? - it's good for his blog. I really, really, really don't want to fight with you over ANYTHING anymore, ever, but you sometimes need to NOT chime-in on posts of people ( me, too, plz!) who you have stated, ad nauseam, are not as smart, intellectual, successful and amazing as you. I want to like you, but you make it so hard - maybe it's me, not you.

    Replies: @Truth, @Twinkie

    The “alpha talk” is just as relevant as any mainstream facebook post of random people.

    I don’t know – I don’t use Facebook or any type of social media, as I consider that the domain of teenage girls. But I am old fashioned.

    I want to like you, but you make it so hard – maybe it’s me, not you.

    Yes, it might be you – telling a stranger that you find his estimation of a particular political talent makes him “gross” to you and then expecting no negative response is, well, a bit self-indulgent. Given your calumny toward me, I think I have been rather mild, droll even.

    Despite all that, *I* still like you – or at least your online persona, “Lagertha.” You remind me of those Sarah Lawrence girls of my youth who were so very desperate to date an Ivy Leaguer, and constantly told me how they really got into an Ivy but turned it down. I always find that type very adorable.

  330. @Lagertha
    @Steve Sailer

    totally agree! OT: Can you just post something totally new - international news would help, btw - (Armenia & Azerbaijan needs your sarcastic attention big time !) to get fracking Twinkie off my back? When I think of Twinkie, I have this fear of an evil cartoon character wanting to just stomp on me...Ghostbusters Doughboy???

    Replies: @Twinkie

    to get fracking Twinkie off my back?

    Are you asking daddy for help? I thought you were a big girl! That, too, is very Sarah Lawrence girls-like.

    When I think of Twinkie, I have this fear of an evil cartoon character wanting to just stomp on me…Ghostbusters Doughboy???

    I am not THAT white, and have a much better physique. Besides, you need not worry. I am very sweet to puppies, children, and little old ladies… a bit like Uncle Adolf, I suppose.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Twinkie

    I am sure a much better physique does wonders against somebody poisoning your food or placing a phone detonated explosive under your car or an IED in your Humvee's path, or tossing a grenade into your shower stall/tent. There are a thousand ways to skin a cat. And you are the one who started it by carping about small parties, when it is self evident that fringe positions that are against the Establishment will not even be able to see the light of day without proportional representation, which at least gives them the chance to be able to reach a wider audience.

  331. @Boethius
    @Anonymous

    I can't see why they would be. Michelle Fields was a pro-Trump reporter working for a pro-Trump outlet. It's ridiculous how for some people here any action by any Republican automatically is assumed to be some kind of sellout, open borders, globalist, permanent war for Israel blah blah blah.

    Except for Donald Trump. For him, the Michelle Fields of the world, the students of Trump University the people who think he's going to spend money on the campaign, can't seem to register at all.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    I can’t see why they would be. Michelle Fields was a pro-Trump reporter working for a pro-Trump outlet. It’s ridiculous how for some people here any action by any Republican automatically is assumed to be some kind of sellout, open borders, globalist, permanent war for Israel blah blah blah.

    The whole “Lyin’ Ted” bit from the Trump campaign is not only juvenile, but a complete inversion. It’s the Trump campaign that lied about Corey Lewandowski’s unnecessary roughness toward Fields and has continued to lie even after the video footage surfaced. Fields, being a Trump supporter, was perfectly willing to drop the matter for just a simple, private apology, but Trump’s campaign was not even willing to concede this – which tells me that the people in that campaign have a serious problem with admitting any flaw, however miniscule.

    Also, the whole episode tells me that the Trump campaign is made up of amateurs. They fell for the classic roping technique, which is campaign 101. When you have a negative footage of an opponent, you sit on it, and make that opponent just keep making up lies to cover himself (because he believes there is no footage: “If there were a footage, surely my enemies would have released it already. I am safe to deny!”). Then after the said opponent has notched up a denial after a denial and dug himself in deeper, you release the footage to show what a shameless liar he is. It’s a complete amateur hour at that campaign, with multiple unforced errors.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @Twinkie

    http://m.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/03/heres-frame-frame-footage-trump-campaign-manager-grabbing-michelle-fields

    Even mother jones sees it as a minor incident. Poor Trump. Unfortunately he has irredeemably lost the crucial Asian American vote.

    , @Boethius
    @Twinkie

    "It’s the Trump campaign that lied about Corey Lewandowski’s unnecessary roughness toward Fields and has continued to lie even after the video footage surfaced. Fields, being a Trump supporter, was perfectly willing to drop the matter for just a simple, private apology, but Trump’s campaign was not even willing to concede this – which tells me that the people in that campaign have a serious problem with admitting any flaw, however miniscule."

    That's right. What's worse, it's part of the nature of Donald Trump's campaign that he tries to bring _us_ into _his_ lies. Here, and other places, the undercurrent is that if we can just get The Donald over the line, barely, we can forget about Megyn Kelly, Trump University and the rest of it. Finally then, we just might get a wall, just might deport some illegals, just might dial down the free trade neoliberals.

    But there's no reason at all to believe that. It's very clear now that Donald Trump turns on former allies for tactical reasons and there's less reason to think that he'll follow through on a commitment to stop immigration any more than he'd honor a commitment to repay Trump casino bonds.

    And just like his bondholders we'll get stuck with worthless political currency. Look outside for a minute. The wall, E-verify, H1B reform, all those things are _now_ being discredited because they're associated with Trump, and everybody knows that Trump is a buffoon.

  332. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie
    @Lagertha


    to get fracking Twinkie off my back?
     
    Are you asking daddy for help? I thought you were a big girl! That, too, is very Sarah Lawrence girls-like.

    When I think of Twinkie, I have this fear of an evil cartoon character wanting to just stomp on me…Ghostbusters Doughboy???
     
    I am not THAT white, and have a much better physique. Besides, you need not worry. I am very sweet to puppies, children, and little old ladies... a bit like Uncle Adolf, I suppose.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I am sure a much better physique does wonders against somebody poisoning your food or placing a phone detonated explosive under your car or an IED in your Humvee’s path, or tossing a grenade into your shower stall/tent. There are a thousand ways to skin a cat. And you are the one who started it by carping about small parties, when it is self evident that fringe positions that are against the Establishment will not even be able to see the light of day without proportional representation, which at least gives them the chance to be able to reach a wider audience.

  333. There is no way a party like the Sweden Democrats or UKIP will see the light of day under a 2 party system, unless they are literally funded by Ross Perot. Trump will still cause enough of a disruption within the GOP that will have long term consequences, which is good enough in retrospect, and there is ample circumstantial evidence to show that Ted is at the very least, being economical with the truth when it comes to his extracurricular activities, plus his neocon posturing. Sometimes aiming for a bite and hold strategy is much better.

  334. The Sweden Democrats are very big now (1st or 2nd biggest party depending on the polls), but I remember 10 years ago when they were lucky to get 2% of the vote in polls.

  335. @Stephen R. Diamond
    @Sean


    No one even potentially with his stated views on immigration will be able to repeat if he fails to get elected.
     
    Then he's done y'all a disservice!

    Replies: @Sean

    There is a reason why he was dubbed The Donald. Opposition to replacement immigrantion is not unique, Trumps ability to win with it is. No one else has Trumps’s attributes.

  336. @Truth
    @Jefferson

    LMAO!

    I get the feeling you have someone specific in mind.

    Replies: @Anonym

    Whiskey would never blame it on the Jews, stalwart friends as they are of the Scots-Irish.

  337. @Twinkie
    @Boethius


    I can’t see why they would be. Michelle Fields was a pro-Trump reporter working for a pro-Trump outlet. It’s ridiculous how for some people here any action by any Republican automatically is assumed to be some kind of sellout, open borders, globalist, permanent war for Israel blah blah blah.
     
    The whole "Lyin' Ted" bit from the Trump campaign is not only juvenile, but a complete inversion. It's the Trump campaign that lied about Corey Lewandowski's unnecessary roughness toward Fields and has continued to lie even after the video footage surfaced. Fields, being a Trump supporter, was perfectly willing to drop the matter for just a simple, private apology, but Trump's campaign was not even willing to concede this - which tells me that the people in that campaign have a serious problem with admitting any flaw, however miniscule.

    Also, the whole episode tells me that the Trump campaign is made up of amateurs. They fell for the classic roping technique, which is campaign 101. When you have a negative footage of an opponent, you sit on it, and make that opponent just keep making up lies to cover himself (because he believes there is no footage: "If there were a footage, surely my enemies would have released it already. I am safe to deny!"). Then after the said opponent has notched up a denial after a denial and dug himself in deeper, you release the footage to show what a shameless liar he is. It's a complete amateur hour at that campaign, with multiple unforced errors.

    Replies: @Anonym, @Boethius

    http://m.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/03/heres-frame-frame-footage-trump-campaign-manager-grabbing-michelle-fields

    Even mother jones sees it as a minor incident. Poor Trump. Unfortunately he has irredeemably lost the crucial Asian American vote.

  338. @Truth
    @Twinkie

    "My wife and I have all the credentials to be a part of the real elites if that were what we desired."

    Only bloodlines get you into "the real elites", Ace; therefore they would, if valid, probably have to be from your wife's family. Absent that, the most you can hope for is to be an extremely well-paid freelancer, and that may entail doing some things that may not jibe with your "conservative" morals.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/21340764/ns/politics/t/lynne-cheney-vp-obama-are-eighth-cousins/

    Replies: @Dirk Dagger, @Bill

    Only bloodlines get you into “the real elites”,

    So, Soros is not a member?

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Bill

    Well-paid freelancer.

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread649714/pg1

  339. @wonderbread
    @TangoMan

    You're mixing up two groups. Cruz always had a fairly small but very devoted following of church-going evangelicals and other movement conservatives. The #NeverTrump crowd are Rubio people. Their website used to have a map up that proved this beyond doubt, but it was so embarrassing that they took it down. It's Florida plus some big cities, mostly on the coasts. Cruz seems to regard the Rubio people as useful idiots, much as Trump regards everyone except himself.

    Replies: @Bill

    It’s Florida plus some big cities, mostly on the coasts.

    This pattern suggests something . . . nope, I lost it.

  340. Andrew says:
    @Stephen R. Diamond
    @Andrew


    White people just don’t want to do it anymore.
     
    Dismaying to find this standard open-borderist talking point in an otherwise very informative comment.

    Replies: @Andrew

    Wisconsin’s dairy farms have become heavily dependent on illegal aliens to perform the actual work of daily milking. The farms are now huge operations with thousands of cattle that replaced the old 100 head operations that used to dot the state. This use of illegals and legal Mexicans for dairy operations is actively promoted by the state government. The milk industry is heavily regulated and subsidized and requires daily attention and hard labor. White people just don’t want to do it anymore. Anti-immigrant message went over predictably like a lead balloon.

    Dismaying to find this standard open-borderist talking point in an otherwise very informative comment.

    I included my whole comment above.

    My family were small scale dairy operators in Pennsylvania and Indiana (less than 100 head) which were run by my great uncles and their sons. I used to help with the corn harvest around Thanksgiving. First vehicle I ever operated besides a rail locomotive (another uncle was a Trainmaster) was a combine harvester.

    My one great uncle in Indiana lasted longest in the business. He had a 400 acre farm and milked his herd himself with the help of one son until he was 75. One time while he was running the farm he left for a vacation in Panama City, leaving his son in charge. While he was away and the son was in charge, several of the cows died. He blamed himself for not being there and never took another vacation or day off in his life. Milking twice a day 5:00 am and 5:00 pm, day in and day out for over 50 years. Do you know many people willing to run that schedule and lifestyle? He had four kids, and only his one son was interested in continuing the family farm, but he got injured doing farm work in his late 40’s and could not take over. None of his grandsons from his two sons and two daughters wanted in on the business even though they lived right next to the farm on two parcels carved out of its north field and worked it as teenagers. He doesn’t lack for descendants – he is now patriarch of an extended family numbering around 80 including spouses. He still operates his farm, but now as a 200 acre cash grain business, which is essentially an easy retirement. He keeps working because he uses the farm to grow most of his own food (his wife cans most of what they eat). When he had an active herd, he used to kill a cow or two or a couple of male calves ever year and butcher them to provide meat for a year.

    Multiply this story all over dairy country, but for most farmers, include far fewer descendants in the extended family able to take over. Old time operators are selling out, and the ones staying in the business or entering the business are moving to much larger industrial sized operations with thousands of head in the herds. This requires dozens of workers to handle the twice daily milking and is essentially running an agri-business as opposed to being a family farmer.

    My comment was that white people are not willing to go and work these farms in the conditions offered, which are dictated by the very low subsidized milk wholesale prices and regulated maximum retail prices. They aren’t. Its reality, deal with it, okay? The conditions, hours, and prospects for advancement all suck, and the cost of entry to be your own operator after gaining experience is enormous while you are at a cost disadvantage due to lacking the volume of the big boys. My great uncle’s 400 acre operation would cost millions for someone to purchase now and would be considered very small scale with an average of 50-100 head. Land alone would be a few million in the better areas, then add on another million more for many combines, tractors, ploughs, etc., plus the sunk cost of purchasing the buildings. If you were trying to run a 1000 head herd, scale the whole operation purchase cost up by a factor of 10 and consider the entry price to get 4000 acres and facilities for 1000 cows.

    Outside the Amish (my distant family background was Amish-Mennonite) and Hutterites, there are few large farm families any more to provide free farm labor and there is much less rural community with fewer rural inhabitants. Illegal and legal Mexicans abound, and the state governments and Feds actively push their use through formal government run jobs programs in farm labor to keep down farm wages and food prices. Mark my words, the government will next push for programs to subsidize their entry into farm ownership once the current generation of farmers dies off. This has been an active thing in places like eastern Washington State for 20 years.

    I’m not supporting this paradigm, I am trying to communicate to you reality. The typical Republican farmer is voting for illegals and open borders because that is what keeps his business running. Maybe you missed the Wisconsin Republican debate where this point kept coming up over and over.

    Why do you think these people running farms in states like Wisconsin will vote for Trump sending the Mexicans home? Who do you think is going to come and milk all these cows now? SJW’s from Madison? Inner city blacks from Milwaukee?

    The family farm is pretty well dead and buried in much of the country outside Amish communities and hardscrabble poor areas. Maybe you missed the midwest farm crisis in the 80’s when this happened and the family farms were bankrupted and steadily consolidated into ever more massive businesses. It was a major factor in the defeat of Bush in 1988 in Wisconsin, Iowa, and Minnesota.

    I’m not trying to be bigoted here. White people do want to farm, especially people from rural areas, but even people growing up in rural states like Wisconsin, Iowa, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina. I knew people in the city of Madison growing up who took the agricultural studies program offered at high school and went into the business in the early 1990’s. But the way many of them want to farm is either as large operators running cheap labor enterprises that are little different from slave plantations or as small scale organic hobby farms that cannot possibly produce food on the scale demanded by the world market. The family farmer paradigm is very dead, and died when the farmers mechanized and stopping having large families. It took a few decades for the remaining family farm owners to die off, retire, or sell out from low prices, but we came and passed that point a couple decades back.

    Do we want something different for our country? Sure! The only way that is going to happen is to force out the illegal labor force, raise wages, descale operations and improve working conditions for non-owner labor, embrace additional technology, restore promotion of large farm families, dismantle the agricultural subsidies programs, and let retail food prices of essentials like milk, eggs, meat, vegetables, and fruit significantly rise. You can imagine the political ruckus that sort of rural revolution would create as all manner of applecarts are upset.

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Andrew

    This is a superb post, Andrew; thanks for writing it.

    I'm an Iowa boy who grew up in an a very rural, but still prosperous area. Sioux County Iowa is dominated by corn and soybean farms, along with plenty of cattle and hog raising for slaughter. There are also chicken confinements and a bit of dairy, although as you've so admirably explained, that's a tough, tough business.

    I sometimes stop and wonder what Sioux County -- which comprises roughly 700 square miles of some of the absolute best farmland on the face of the planet, albeit in a fairly harsh climate -- could produce if its crop base were changed from 'industrial' corn and soybeans to more labor-intensive 'put-on-the-table' crops such as vegetables, etc. It's staggering to think about how many people it could feed . . . .

    But as you say, the deeply instantiated ag economics there dicate an entire way of life, one that's profoundly shaped by market distortions enforced by government policy. It's why Iowans can be ur-conservatives on every issue -- except ethanol subsidies.

    This brings to mind what might have been one of the gutsiest things Ted Cruz has done, i.e. standing up for killing off the ethanol subsidies when he was running his Iowa campaign. It's hard for non-Midwesterners to grasp just what a politically radical -- and perhaps principled -- move this was.

  341. @Lagertha
    @celt darnell

    I get what you're saying, BUT :) USA needs a 3rd party of some kind because for someone like me (and there are many who believe this) who is socially liberal (I'm fine with abortions, LGBT, am a proponent of assisted suicide, or just plain suicide; believe in public schools, libraries, decent roads, airports that run efficiently, bridges that don't fall down, public transportation, public beaches, ASPCA, clean food free of GMO's, clean water,focus on the environment and animal/plant welfare, single-payer health insurance....many things) and fiscally conservative; there is NO party for me.

    I also don't want any more wars in the middle-east, don't want build-up of American military in the world, am skeptical about the efficacy of the UN (duh), want to cease sending money to many countries who hate the USA, want to scale-back NATO; steadfastly believe in global climate change and severe ecological degradation at the hands of human population explosion (the sh*tloads of plastic swerling around the oceans , for instance - stuff I mentioned a year ago); I want restricted immigration, scrutiny of visas, no more H1B visa storm troopers, and, lastly, I don't want to talk about religion at all - religion of all kinds, is out-of-bounds of public policy. I don't like religiosity to seep into any public business/policy. I belong to a church, but it is my private life.

    Your very detailed post, however, showcases how different England is (than my Finland which I referred to in my original post) and all the various camps within England that seem divided by micro-ethnic groups/cultures/traditions or regions going back generations/centuries. Finland does not have so many variegated identity groups within its region, like UK. Finland's parties: National Coalition Party, Social Democratic Party, Left Alliance, Center Party, Green Party, Finns Party, Swedish People's Party, and the Pirate Party! (personal favorite of my son in name only!) The Communist Party fell apart,(big-time duh:) after USSR collapsed.

    Lastly, SJWs have a hard time with an alpha female like me...I have had many tedious discussions with "the type" for decades. That's why, in a few years, I will retreat to deep nature as retirement calls! I just want to ski, hike, ride and smell the wildflowers, read books and surf. My sons will be well on their way; am so proud of them.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Twinkie, @celt darnell

    Well, I have no issue with your politics (even if I’m not sure how to reconcile fiscal conservatism with the massive public spending and services you’re proposing) nor do I have any problem with your dislike of the Republicans, but…

    …while you’re correct that the UK is “divided by micro-ethnic groups/cultures/traditions or regions going back generations/centuries,” aside from the “centuries” bit, do you not think the US is also riddled with similar divisions that the Dems and Repubs are currently papering over?

    It seems to me the US bears a closer resemblance to the UK than it does Finland….

    I also suspect that the continuing and increased levels of immigration will augment those divisions.

    I don’t think you need a third party — I think you need the Republicans to be replaced entirely.

    Just my opinion….

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @celt darnell

    You lost me at "continuing and increased levels of immigration". I don't want ANY immigration; OR, immigration of people who are not highly educated...or even, marginally educated; no people who need public assistance when they step off of European Hi-tech trains/Navy boats/WTF evah. Americans are NOT AT ALL like UK; do not RESEMBLE UK AT ALL! UK decided to be sell-outs to the hoards of MENA migrants decades ago; even before 9/11: London Tube/Spanish Trains/San B, Paris/Brussels/etc., etc., etc many bad things followed. Bad people are bad people...or should say: bad males are bad males.

    There are no jobs for the marginally educated or people who do not speak/understand/respect the language of the country they have arrived in. The so called, "engineers, entrepreneurs, highly educated, coming out of the MENA is such BS. Current migrants will NEVER assimilate (as they have not for 40 years) into European countries' cultures. That has been evident for me for 35 years.

    I think you should watch, "Animals" on T.V., and you will get my Darwinist philosophy...even if it kills me at some time, literally. Animals are pure ( no conscious) , and people are evil (conscious) ...I'm saying this just to mess with you right now because this thread is SO last week, but the migrant crisis, perhaps the Immivasion goes on, and on (because people are weak) and will doom us all. Animals and nature are pure of heart (to Lagertha) and humans are evil, and are killers - don't trust anyone, except your dog who signed up for the deal because, well, it's is a dog.

  342. @Twinkie
    @Anonym


    When the white demographic has no practical remaining chance to dominate the electorate, there will be a “What do you mean ‘we’, paleface?” moment from him and those like him.
     
    1. I am more pale-faced than most Mediterranean whites (though I tan easily under the sun). Last time I checked, people of my ethnicity are often lumped into "lily white" category by leftist race hustlers.

    2. I've shed blood for this, my adopted country, that I love so dearly. You think I'll sell out my beloved wife, her kin, and my children (who are half-white), and my friends and blood-brothers once the demographics of this country changes? Are you some kind of stupid?

    3. If I were interested in self-interest of a certain sort, with my elite credentials and affluence, I could be playing the whole SWPL/SWJ/leftist elite game TODAY. Lord knows my actual moral and philosophical views have been a hindrance to my careers and social acceptance, not a benefit. As it were, I find such a game repellent in the extreme.

    4. As a general comment (one that pertains to you as well), it seems to me that a lot of "white nationalist" types are so emotionally invested in the "everybody hates white males" meme that they would rather engage in the self-fulfilling prophesy of pre-emptively being hostile to everyone else ("See! He hates me! That's why I hated him first! And let him know it too!"), rather than actually embracing and working with earnest allies.

    Replies: @Anonym, @Jefferson, @Kevin O'Keeffe

    …it seems to me that a lot of “white nationalist” types are so emotionally invested in the “everybody hates white males” meme that they would rather engage in the self-fulfilling prophesy of pre-emptively being hostile to everyone else (“See! He hates me! That’s why I hated him first! And let him know it too!”), rather than actually embracing and working with earnest allies.

    There’s a lot of truth in those remarks, unfortunately.

  343. @Bill
    @Truth


    Only bloodlines get you into “the real elites”,
     
    So, Soros is not a member?

    Replies: @Truth

  344. @Andrew
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    Wisconsin’s dairy farms have become heavily dependent on illegal aliens to perform the actual work of daily milking. The farms are now huge operations with thousands of cattle that replaced the old 100 head operations that used to dot the state. This use of illegals and legal Mexicans for dairy operations is actively promoted by the state government. The milk industry is heavily regulated and subsidized and requires daily attention and hard labor. White people just don’t want to do it anymore. Anti-immigrant message went over predictably like a lead balloon.

    Dismaying to find this standard open-borderist talking point in an otherwise very informative comment.

    I included my whole comment above.

    My family were small scale dairy operators in Pennsylvania and Indiana (less than 100 head) which were run by my great uncles and their sons. I used to help with the corn harvest around Thanksgiving. First vehicle I ever operated besides a rail locomotive (another uncle was a Trainmaster) was a combine harvester.

    My one great uncle in Indiana lasted longest in the business. He had a 400 acre farm and milked his herd himself with the help of one son until he was 75. One time while he was running the farm he left for a vacation in Panama City, leaving his son in charge. While he was away and the son was in charge, several of the cows died. He blamed himself for not being there and never took another vacation or day off in his life. Milking twice a day 5:00 am and 5:00 pm, day in and day out for over 50 years. Do you know many people willing to run that schedule and lifestyle? He had four kids, and only his one son was interested in continuing the family farm, but he got injured doing farm work in his late 40's and could not take over. None of his grandsons from his two sons and two daughters wanted in on the business even though they lived right next to the farm on two parcels carved out of its north field and worked it as teenagers. He doesn't lack for descendants - he is now patriarch of an extended family numbering around 80 including spouses. He still operates his farm, but now as a 200 acre cash grain business, which is essentially an easy retirement. He keeps working because he uses the farm to grow most of his own food (his wife cans most of what they eat). When he had an active herd, he used to kill a cow or two or a couple of male calves ever year and butcher them to provide meat for a year.

    Multiply this story all over dairy country, but for most farmers, include far fewer descendants in the extended family able to take over. Old time operators are selling out, and the ones staying in the business or entering the business are moving to much larger industrial sized operations with thousands of head in the herds. This requires dozens of workers to handle the twice daily milking and is essentially running an agri-business as opposed to being a family farmer.

    My comment was that white people are not willing to go and work these farms in the conditions offered, which are dictated by the very low subsidized milk wholesale prices and regulated maximum retail prices. They aren't. Its reality, deal with it, okay? The conditions, hours, and prospects for advancement all suck, and the cost of entry to be your own operator after gaining experience is enormous while you are at a cost disadvantage due to lacking the volume of the big boys. My great uncle's 400 acre operation would cost millions for someone to purchase now and would be considered very small scale with an average of 50-100 head. Land alone would be a few million in the better areas, then add on another million more for many combines, tractors, ploughs, etc., plus the sunk cost of purchasing the buildings. If you were trying to run a 1000 head herd, scale the whole operation purchase cost up by a factor of 10 and consider the entry price to get 4000 acres and facilities for 1000 cows.

    Outside the Amish (my distant family background was Amish-Mennonite) and Hutterites, there are few large farm families any more to provide free farm labor and there is much less rural community with fewer rural inhabitants. Illegal and legal Mexicans abound, and the state governments and Feds actively push their use through formal government run jobs programs in farm labor to keep down farm wages and food prices. Mark my words, the government will next push for programs to subsidize their entry into farm ownership once the current generation of farmers dies off. This has been an active thing in places like eastern Washington State for 20 years.

    I'm not supporting this paradigm, I am trying to communicate to you reality. The typical Republican farmer is voting for illegals and open borders because that is what keeps his business running. Maybe you missed the Wisconsin Republican debate where this point kept coming up over and over.

    Why do you think these people running farms in states like Wisconsin will vote for Trump sending the Mexicans home? Who do you think is going to come and milk all these cows now? SJW's from Madison? Inner city blacks from Milwaukee?

    The family farm is pretty well dead and buried in much of the country outside Amish communities and hardscrabble poor areas. Maybe you missed the midwest farm crisis in the 80's when this happened and the family farms were bankrupted and steadily consolidated into ever more massive businesses. It was a major factor in the defeat of Bush in 1988 in Wisconsin, Iowa, and Minnesota.

    I'm not trying to be bigoted here. White people do want to farm, especially people from rural areas, but even people growing up in rural states like Wisconsin, Iowa, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina. I knew people in the city of Madison growing up who took the agricultural studies program offered at high school and went into the business in the early 1990's. But the way many of them want to farm is either as large operators running cheap labor enterprises that are little different from slave plantations or as small scale organic hobby farms that cannot possibly produce food on the scale demanded by the world market. The family farmer paradigm is very dead, and died when the farmers mechanized and stopping having large families. It took a few decades for the remaining family farm owners to die off, retire, or sell out from low prices, but we came and passed that point a couple decades back.

    Do we want something different for our country? Sure! The only way that is going to happen is to force out the illegal labor force, raise wages, descale operations and improve working conditions for non-owner labor, embrace additional technology, restore promotion of large farm families, dismantle the agricultural subsidies programs, and let retail food prices of essentials like milk, eggs, meat, vegetables, and fruit significantly rise. You can imagine the political ruckus that sort of rural revolution would create as all manner of applecarts are upset.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    This is a superb post, Andrew; thanks for writing it.

    I’m an Iowa boy who grew up in an a very rural, but still prosperous area. Sioux County Iowa is dominated by corn and soybean farms, along with plenty of cattle and hog raising for slaughter. There are also chicken confinements and a bit of dairy, although as you’ve so admirably explained, that’s a tough, tough business.

    I sometimes stop and wonder what Sioux County — which comprises roughly 700 square miles of some of the absolute best farmland on the face of the planet, albeit in a fairly harsh climate — could produce if its crop base were changed from ‘industrial’ corn and soybeans to more labor-intensive ‘put-on-the-table’ crops such as vegetables, etc. It’s staggering to think about how many people it could feed . . . .

    But as you say, the deeply instantiated ag economics there dicate an entire way of life, one that’s profoundly shaped by market distortions enforced by government policy. It’s why Iowans can be ur-conservatives on every issue — except ethanol subsidies.

    This brings to mind what might have been one of the gutsiest things Ted Cruz has done, i.e. standing up for killing off the ethanol subsidies when he was running his Iowa campaign. It’s hard for non-Midwesterners to grasp just what a politically radical — and perhaps principled — move this was.

  345. @Twinkie
    @Boethius


    I can’t see why they would be. Michelle Fields was a pro-Trump reporter working for a pro-Trump outlet. It’s ridiculous how for some people here any action by any Republican automatically is assumed to be some kind of sellout, open borders, globalist, permanent war for Israel blah blah blah.
     
    The whole "Lyin' Ted" bit from the Trump campaign is not only juvenile, but a complete inversion. It's the Trump campaign that lied about Corey Lewandowski's unnecessary roughness toward Fields and has continued to lie even after the video footage surfaced. Fields, being a Trump supporter, was perfectly willing to drop the matter for just a simple, private apology, but Trump's campaign was not even willing to concede this - which tells me that the people in that campaign have a serious problem with admitting any flaw, however miniscule.

    Also, the whole episode tells me that the Trump campaign is made up of amateurs. They fell for the classic roping technique, which is campaign 101. When you have a negative footage of an opponent, you sit on it, and make that opponent just keep making up lies to cover himself (because he believes there is no footage: "If there were a footage, surely my enemies would have released it already. I am safe to deny!"). Then after the said opponent has notched up a denial after a denial and dug himself in deeper, you release the footage to show what a shameless liar he is. It's a complete amateur hour at that campaign, with multiple unforced errors.

    Replies: @Anonym, @Boethius

    “It’s the Trump campaign that lied about Corey Lewandowski’s unnecessary roughness toward Fields and has continued to lie even after the video footage surfaced. Fields, being a Trump supporter, was perfectly willing to drop the matter for just a simple, private apology, but Trump’s campaign was not even willing to concede this – which tells me that the people in that campaign have a serious problem with admitting any flaw, however miniscule.”

    That’s right. What’s worse, it’s part of the nature of Donald Trump’s campaign that he tries to bring _us_ into _his_ lies. Here, and other places, the undercurrent is that if we can just get The Donald over the line, barely, we can forget about Megyn Kelly, Trump University and the rest of it. Finally then, we just might get a wall, just might deport some illegals, just might dial down the free trade neoliberals.

    But there’s no reason at all to believe that. It’s very clear now that Donald Trump turns on former allies for tactical reasons and there’s less reason to think that he’ll follow through on a commitment to stop immigration any more than he’d honor a commitment to repay Trump casino bonds.

    And just like his bondholders we’ll get stuck with worthless political currency. Look outside for a minute. The wall, E-verify, H1B reform, all those things are _now_ being discredited because they’re associated with Trump, and everybody knows that Trump is a buffoon.

  346. @anonymous-antimarxist
    @Jefferson


    Far Right Winger like Dana Loesch
     
    The Southern Baptist Dana Loesch rode to prominence as a staunch NeoCon who exploited the "Tea Party" movement and later formed an alliance with her employer Glenn Beck, her opposition to Trump is purely careerist.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “The Southern Baptist Dana Loesch rode to prominence as a staunch NeoCon who exploited the “Tea Party” movement and later formed an alliance with her employer Glenn Beck, her opposition to Trump is purely careerist.”

    Her opposition to Donald Trump is because he is a flip flopper. He changes his political views like people change their shirts. He doesn’t have a history of sticking with the same political view for very long.

  347. @Andrew
    Just made it through all of this. Comments on Wisconsin as a Republican former 10 year resident who matriculated from high school in Madison:

    1) Trump won the Driftless area and the Canadian Shield. These are the agriculturally poor rural areas in the west and north of the state. Economically they are former mining and timber areas. They are essentially equivalent demographicaly and economically to places like western Massachusetts, West Virginia, upstate New York, northern Maine, northern Pennsylvania. These areas typically lean Democratic in general elections.

    2) Cruz won the agriculturally rich moraine and drumlin area between Janesville and Green Bay between Milwaukee and Madison. This area includes the rich suburbs of Milwaukee. This is one of the most fertile agricultural areas in the country, comparable to northwest Iowa, western Michigan, and Lancaster/York in Pennsylvania. This area is the Republican heartland of the state.

    3) Wisconsin is doing well enough economically since it has an educated and industrious populace. It is not truly a rust belt state, and anyone who has ever been there would know that. Milwaukee is by far the major midwestern city outside Chicago with the most remaining economic vitality and has barely lost population (compared to St. Louis, Cleveland, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, which lost 50% or more).

    4) Trump is correct about what Governor Walker is doing to the state. He is neglecting the infrastructure, which is falling apart because of doctrinaire anti-tax dogmas preventing raising the gas tax. He has also attacking the public schools and the University of Wisconsin because that is the liberal power base, but in doing so he is damaging them, not understanding that they are a major factor in the success of his state. That is typical shortsighted Republican behavior - milk the cow as long as you can before slaughtering it. The Republican base in Wisconsin may not want to hear it, but its true. A typical dick move of Governor Walker was cancelling the expansion of the Amtrak Hiawatha train service to Madison (currently it runs Milwaukee to Chicago, serving the area of Governor Walker's base). The state had already spent a lot of money on it, and it had hundreds of millions of free federal money lined up to pay for all remaining costs. But because the service would have mainly benefited his political enemies in Madison, he cancelled the project, costing the state all of the federal grant money and over $50 million more of its own money to wind down previously agreed to contracts. Walker is basically a petty shortsighted sockpuppet, which was shown right after he was elected to office by a fake Koch Brother's prank call by a liberal radio talk show that he fell for. But dammit, he's OUR sockpuppet, so the Republican voters support him.

    5) Wisconsin's dairy farms have become heavily dependent on illegal aliens to perform the actual work of daily milking. The farms are now huge operations with thousands of cattle that replaced the old 100 head operations that used to dot the state. This use of illegals and legal Mexicans for dairy operations is actively promoted by the state government. The milk industry is heavily regulated and subsidized and requires daily attention and hard labor. White people just don't want to do it anymore. Anti-immigrant message went over predictably like a lead balloon.

    6) Wisconsin polls. A lot of delusion about what these shows has been evinced here.
    Cruz-Trump-Kasich
    4/5/16 Primary 48-35-14
    4/3/16 ARG 32-42-23
    4/3/16 Emerson 40-35-21
    4/1/16 CBS 43-37-18
    3/30/16 Fox 42-32-19
    3/30/16 Loras 38-31-18
    3/29/16 PPP 38-37-17
    3/28/16 Marquette 40-30-21
    3/24/16 Optimus 25-29-27
    3/22/16 Emerson 36-35-19
    3/20/16 Basswood 36-31-21

    Except for the ARG outlier poll and bizarre online Optimus poll, Trump was clearly losing for over two weeks (even before Utah and the Melania ad and Heidi retweet), and the numbers barely changed. His poll average was 33% and he got 35%. Cruz was averaging 39% and got 48%. Kasich lost a few points of his polling and the undecided mostly went to Cruz. Why anyone is surprised or distraught by the results is beyond me.

    Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond, @Olorin

    James Madison Memorial or West?

  348. @celt darnell
    @Lagertha

    Well, I have no issue with your politics (even if I'm not sure how to reconcile fiscal conservatism with the massive public spending and services you're proposing) nor do I have any problem with your dislike of the Republicans, but...

    ...while you're correct that the UK is "divided by micro-ethnic groups/cultures/traditions or regions going back generations/centuries," aside from the "centuries" bit, do you not think the US is also riddled with similar divisions that the Dems and Repubs are currently papering over?

    It seems to me the US bears a closer resemblance to the UK than it does Finland....

    I also suspect that the continuing and increased levels of immigration will augment those divisions.

    I don't think you need a third party -- I think you need the Republicans to be replaced entirely.

    Just my opinion....

    Replies: @Lagertha

    You lost me at “continuing and increased levels of immigration”. I don’t want ANY immigration; OR, immigration of people who are not highly educated…or even, marginally educated; no people who need public assistance when they step off of European Hi-tech trains/Navy boats/WTF evah. Americans are NOT AT ALL like UK; do not RESEMBLE UK AT ALL! UK decided to be sell-outs to the hoards of MENA migrants decades ago; even before 9/11: London Tube/Spanish Trains/San B, Paris/Brussels/etc., etc., etc many bad things followed. Bad people are bad people…or should say: bad males are bad males.

    There are no jobs for the marginally educated or people who do not speak/understand/respect the language of the country they have arrived in. The so called, “engineers, entrepreneurs, highly educated, coming out of the MENA is such BS. Current migrants will NEVER assimilate (as they have not for 40 years) into European countries’ cultures. That has been evident for me for 35 years.

    I think you should watch, “Animals” on T.V., and you will get my Darwinist philosophy…even if it kills me at some time, literally. Animals are pure ( no conscious) , and people are evil (conscious) …I’m saying this just to mess with you right now because this thread is SO last week, but the migrant crisis, perhaps the Immivasion goes on, and on (because people are weak) and will doom us all. Animals and nature are pure of heart (to Lagertha) and humans are evil, and are killers – don’t trust anyone, except your dog who signed up for the deal because, well, it’s is a dog.

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