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Back in 2014, I predicted that the third book in the trilogy by economic historian Gregory Clark, to follow his A Farewell To Alms and The Son Also Rises, would be entitled For Whom the Bell Curve Tolls.

And I was right.

And Clark is getting canceled over it.

From the Glasgow U. Guardian:

Adam Smith Business School postpone seminar by eugenicist

Luke Chafer
18th February 2021

/// A highly controversial seminar to be led by Gregory Clark, a visiting professor at London School of Economics, to be delivered for the Adam Smith Business School has been postponed amid pressure from student groups.

… The talk that was scheduled to be to be delivered was titled: “For Whom the Bell Curve Tolls: A lineage of 400,000 individuals 1750-2020 shows genetics determines most social outcomes”. In his book of a similar title, For Whom the Bell Curve Tolls: Genetics, Demography and Social Outcomes,

I don’t see it for sale anywhere, so it’s either still upcoming or has been completely canceled.

he argues that socio-economic status is genetically inherited through the “genetic transmission of … some mysterious mix of drive and ability”. He also theorised that “200 years from now the descendants of enslaved African-Americans will still be underrepresented”. Some have asserted his statistical analysis on which these conclusions are based is highly questionable, with a lack of reference to inherited wealth and social status asserting correlation between surnames and wealth as causation.

Uh … Clark’s A Farewell to Alms was based on his in-depth analysis of English wills from 1200-1800 and his second book was about the social status of different surnames, so I kinda doubt he fails to reference inherited wealth and social status.

This week saw an announcement from Gavin Williamson, the education secretary, stating universities face fines for suppressing free speech on campuses. Speculation has led some to believe that being the reason why the event was not cancelled, and instead postponed, despite these new fines not applying to Scottish universities. The Adam Smith Business School announced they will reformulate the event “as a workshop to focus on different perspectives and analyses of what is a novel historical dataset”.

Hopefully, Clark is now working on a book about the terrible toll that senility takes on IQ: The Old Man and the g.

 
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  1. The Old Man and the g

    Hopefully he won’t end up like Hemingway.

  2. For those who don’t realize, even though Davis teaches at UC-Davis and is a visiting professor at the LSE, he is Scottish by nationality. So he is being canceled by his own people.

  3. Did you see the Woody Allen documentary on HBO?

    It was pretty devastating. Whatever reputation the man has left is now gone. They made a strong case that the man is a pedophile.

  4. “Hopefully, Clark is now working on a book about the terrible toll that senility takes on IQ: The Old Man and the g.”

    Or the terrible toll that chemotherapy takes on IQ: The Dull Man and Big C.

  5. @ScarletNumber

    Maybe he points out in his book that anyone with brains has left Scotland?

  6. Polistra says:
    @ScarletNumber

    So he is being canceled by his own people.

    So are the rest of us. Though to be sure, some are FWP..

  7. Lot says:

    “ He also theorised that “200 years from now the descendants of enslaved African-Americans will still be underrepresented”.

    Seems like a pretty safe bet. In all the history of races interacting, that’s been the consistent result.

    At what point is this a crime thought though? Surely blacks will be underrepresented in 5 years isn’t. Probably 25 is OK too.

    The more interesting question because it changes is “Yellow or White Man on Top?” We’ve had a nice long run Fellow Whites, but it may be the 1200s or 1905 again soon. Ghengis Khan and the Japanese were kind and gentle in victory, right? Nothing to worry about.

    “ Some have asserted his statistical analysis on which these conclusions are based is highly questionable, with a lack of reference to inherited wealth”

    Wow, Prof Clark who published multiple articles drawing from data on English wills and related probate data never considered the effect of inherited wealth. Thanks Mr. Some for having asserted this.

    Anyway, between this book and its title, HMac’s recent appearance on Tucker, and Charles Murray’s new book, I detect a certain new boldness among the brightest intellects in America.

  8. Polistra says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Gotta admit, even the trailer looks like a hatchet job.

    Did you happen to see this?

    https://nypost.com/2021/02/22/put-me-on-team-woody-mia-farrow-is-full-of-it/

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    , @Ian Smith
  9. Anon[343] • Disclaimer says:

    The talk that was scheduled to be to be delivered was titled: “For Whom the Bell Curve Tolls: A lineage of 400,000 individuals 1750-2020 shows genetics determines most social outcomes”

    He argues that socio-economic status is genetically inherited through the “genetic transmission of … some mysterious mix of drive and ability”. He also theorised that “200 years from now the descendants of enslaved African-Americans will still be underrepresented”.

    If word gets out about this, what effect will it have on White women of reproductive age?

    • Replies: @Thoughts
  10. El Dato says:

    amid pressure from student groups

    Ah, that eternal mix of “student groups” who actually should have no say in this matter and spineless so-called administrators who are never named.

    Snotty little buggers all of them. Should be whipped with buggy whips (treatment of whip welds: not reimbursed by social security!) to get them to actually, you know, study and administrate.

    No Study, No Peace!

    200 years from now the descendants of enslaved African-Americans will still be underrepresented

    They will definitely be overrepresented. But 200 years from now is a long time. A lot of things can happen that can influence the number of descendants. Who dares look even 20 years ahead now.

  11. anon[209] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Did you see the Woody Allen documentary on HBO?

    No. Why should iSteve or anyone else do so?

    Who cares?

    • Replies: @Known Fact
  12. It really does feel like the folks with great genes for IQ would rather keep their little monopoly a secret.

    But why they think being on a planet surrounded by billions of dummies is in their interest is beyond me. If they were acting rationally, they would’ve been pushing to radically slow population growth among the bottom 20% of the bell curve world wide.

    Some of you may think there’s a Grand Strategy behind all this, but oddly enough I think they’re just short-sighted. Basically focused on their narrow little lives, and some of them working out their grudges on Whites they don’t like, etc.

    And so, the passions of those who just hate White people end up pushing social policy along, not so much some long term plan with an expansive view of things.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  13. That was a good call, Steve, on the book name. This guy Clark’s got nothing on the author of the kid’s Dogman series (character has the body of a human and the head of a dog – long story):

    Dog Man
    Dog Man: Unleashed
    Dog Man: A Tale of Two Kitties
    Dog Man: Lord of the Fleas
    Dog Man: Brawl of the Wild
    Dog Man: For Whom the Ball Rolls
    Dog Man: Fetch-22
    Dog Man: Grime and Punishment
    Dog Man: Mothering Heights

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
    , @Pericles
  14. Not Raul says:
    @ScarletNumber

    Hopefully he won’t end up like Hemingway.

    I used to know him. I’d be shocked if he ended up like Hemingway.

    Hemingway had severe depression. Professor Clark didn’t seem that way.

    He is already older than Hemingway got to.

  15. Not Raul says:
    @ScarletNumber

    Perhaps they’re canceling him for leaving. They say that you can’t go home again.

  16. Clyde says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    pretty devastating?

    …Deva Diva 123

  17. For Whom the Bell Curve Tolls

    For Whom the Bell Curve Tolls = Hell, TV oft hollows cerebrum. Fowl troll belches vermouth.

    Hopefully, Clark is now working on a book about the terrible toll that senility takes on IQ: The Old Man and the g.

    The Snow Job of Kilimanjaro.

    The Short Happy Life of Richard J Herrnstein.

    IQs in the Stream.

    A Moveable Fist.

    But why stop at Hemingway?

    One Hundred Years of Negritude.

    Of Human Bandage.

    Of Mice and Morons.

    Chicanery Row.

    Catch-85.

    Things Fall Apart. Again.

    • Thanks: Gabe Ruth
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  18. Anon[353] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    When the first wave of anti-Woody stuff happened, back before cancellation and #metoo and wokism, the media reported both sides pretty thoroughly, including the university investigation and the prosecutor’s investigation. It seemed clear to me that Woody was innocent and his wife was a nut. Having watched the documentary, what would you consider the most damning two facts from the documentary to be? I don’t want to go down a conspiracy theory rabbit hole, but using you as the expert I’ll look into one or two of what you consider to be the most bulletproof pieces of evidence. The trailer has nothing that seems new, and you can make anything look true in a documentary.

    How old are you, by the way? Were you an adult during the McMartin Preschool hysteria? Alien abduction, Satanic ritual abuse? There was a time there when adults were accusing their parents of childhood abuse in the media right and left. And then it just kind of faded away. I think Professor Elizabeth Loftus and her false memory research helped. That and the increasingly bizarre McMartin trial, with sheriffs excavating the school looking for buried horse corpses.

    I think Woody was involved in a bitter divorce from an emotionally unstable woman who subjected her daughter to memory implantation techniques such as used in Loftus’s “Lost in the Mall” experiment. Woody did married his ex-wife’s step-daughter, but so what? They remain happily married. Meanwhile Mia Farrow has 11 adopted children, not that there’s anything wrong with that …

  19. Thoughts says:
    @Anon

    Nothing. IQ goes through the mother.

    • LOL: HammerJack
  20. notsaying says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I have no idea who is lying and who is telling the truth in this. I will say that Mia Farrow and Woody Allen should never have been adoptive parents.

    I can’t find anything on the internet on this but I recall distinctly that the two of them could only adopt after getting a private bill pushed through Albany for them. Why? Because the two of them didn’t even live together in the same household. She and her kids were over in the Upper West Side and he stayed across Central Park in his apartment on the East Side. The law didn’t allow that so they used their money and influence to get an exception to an obviously sensible policy that adoptive parents have to live together. Very poor decision making from the New York State legislature and I thought that at the time, not just later after everything blew up.

    Obviously he didn’t look on Mia’s daughter Soon-Yi Previn as a daughter since they had sex and got married. What did he think about Dylan, the one he’s accused of molesting? Who knows?

    It goes to show the dangers in straying from first principles. People who want to be parents should be able to live together; if they don’t want to do that, they have no business being given kids to adopt.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @AnotherDad
  21. @Anon

    “Were you an adult during the McMartin Preschool hysteria? Alien abduction, Satanic ritual abuse? There was a time there when adults were accusing their parents of childhood abuse in the media right and left. And then it just kind of faded away. I think Professor Elizabeth Loftus and her false memory research helped. That and the increasingly bizarre McMartin trial, with sheriffs excavating the school looking for buried horse corpses”

    Well, that kind of stuff is back lately.

  22. J.Ross says:

    The invisible hand is never far away at Adam Smith Business School.

    • LOL: Forbes
  23. Thoughts says:
    @RichardTaylor

    Christianity is a pretty eugenics thing to do.

    You can clearly see a difference in Christian blacks versus non Christian blacks in America.

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    , @Jack D
  24. J.Ross says:
    @Anon

    Declaring yourself sane or smart doesn’t work, and as for instant no-evidence abuse accusations, that’s now normal, widespread, and legally binding.

  25. Cortes says:

    The senility one is more likely

    “Across The River And, Why Are My Feet Wet?”

    It’ll be real and clean and true. And I obscenity on those who disagree.

  26. terrible toll that senility takes on IQ: The Old Man and the g.

    “Gee, that’s too bad.”

    • LOL: El Dato
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  27. Anonymous[308] • Disclaimer says:
    @RichardTaylor

    But why they think being on a planet surrounded by billions of dummies is in their interest is beyond me. If they were acting rationally, they would’ve been pushing to radically slow population growth among the bottom 20% of the bell curve world wide.

    See Caldwell, The Age of Entitlement, for a treatment of contemporary Western elites as protected minorities.

    Basic answer is that human genetic load increases quickly in benign environments, environments such as having wealthy and powerful parents for a few generations, sometimes even one. Growing up in boarding schools whose primary goal is to retain non-scholarship students by flattering them doesn’t help. The result has always been not terribly bright aristocracies / elites (conceited but well intentioned dummies, you might say). As a not terribly bright group, the the elite is just another minority, with a way of life that needs protection. In contemporary society, second and third generation elites have very little responsibility or leeway, and is thus quite vulnerable to replacement. It therefore promotes protection for people like its members — “billions of dummies”, as you say.

    In other societies, including European and Bronze Age Egyptian, the same kind of protection involved different social mechanisms, and these mechanisms worked out tolerably well. Typically, late medieval and early modern monarchs had “favorites” who actually set policy and fended off political enemies. Aristocrats assigned tasks would find competent subordinates to do the actual management. The purpose of the aristocrats was to ensure that the formal goal of the organization was executed, that funds/resources were not diverted to other projects by the people actually doing the work, and to provide a bit of flexibility in an organization consisting of people whose position in the organization would not tolerate their taking risks. Officers in the modern military of most countries do much the same sort of thing.

    When an aristocratic system breaks down, bad things have happened. Funds get diverted to immediate consumption. In the old USSR, the nomenclatura grew increasingly powerless after Khrushchev, see: Yurchak, Everything Was Forever, Until it Was No More. Funds allocated by central planning were re-allocated every time they went through another layer of local “bosses”, and except for some, not all, military projects, ultimate use of funds was not so much as influenced by central planning. Eventually, the central planners gave up and became economic forecasters, describing what they no longer controlled. The USSR’s system was surprisingly resilient, and defeated the reformers Khrushchev and Brezhnev, although at the cost of ending the USSR and the entire USSR system, which had become unable to support itself. Something similar may be happening in the US, if you want to think of Trump as a defeated reformer.

    People appear to have as little autonomy as a steel ball released into a pinball table. “Although the future’s lying there,
    for anyone to change.
    you know, sometimes its easier
    to change the past.”

    • Agree: El Dato
    • Replies: @vhrm
  28. Tangentially on-topic– Kristof implies that Lysenko might have been right about something:

    What Are Sperm Telling Us?

    He doesn’t mention vaccines, or what our “family planning” is doing to fish.

    • Replies: @Kibernetika
  29. notsaying says:

    I think the students made a big mistake not to listen to Clark talk about “For Whom the Bell Curve Tolls: A lineage of 400,000 individuals 1750-2020 shows genetics determines most social outcomes”.

    I myself find it hard to believe that genetics determines most of what happens to us, too. But the only way to fight his argument is to listen to it and find out what it is. That is getting an education. Just saying “I don’t want to think about this idea, I don’t want to hear my beliefs challenged” is ignoring what you went to college for, which is to grapple with big ideas.

    • Agree: Thoughts, Cortes, res
  30. El Dato says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I’m not going to watch anything that promotes Mia Farrow in all her fuckedupness.

  31. syonredux says:

    I have a colleague who wanted to use Clark’s research in her dissertation on social mobility in Victorian fiction (This was about ten years ago). Her advisor strongly warned her against it. Clark, he told her, was “radioactive,” and citing his work in a non-condemnatory fashion would effectively terminate her academic career before it even properly commenced. Not being in the mood for martyrdom, she complied.

    • Thanks: vhrm
    • Replies: @Sean
    , @syonredux
  32. J.Ross says:
    @notsaying

    And, more to scale since this is our government and our whole society and not just some kids doing this, why the Chinese found themselves humiliated by a tiny cut-off force of hairy barbarians in the early twentieth century.

  33. @Thoughts

    You can clearly see a difference in Christian blacks versus non Christian blacks in America.

    Who are the non-Christian Blacks? And it couldn’t include recent Muslim converts could it because there wouldn’t be enough time for eugenics work yet.

    • Replies: @Thoughts
  34. Polistra says:
    @notsaying

    I myself find it hard to believe that genetics determines most of what happens to us, too. But the only way to fight his argument is to listen to it and find out what it is. That is getting an education. Just saying “I don’t want to think about this idea, I don’t want to hear my beliefs challenged” is ignoring what you went to college for, which is to grapple with big ideas.

    Until a couple generations ago, many people did indeed go to college for that reason.

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
  35. @Dieter Kief

    A YouTube commenter today said that the name Detlef sounds “gay” to Germans. Is that true?

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  36. Thoughts says:
    @RichardTaylor

    No.

    Haven’t you ever talked to blacks? Churchgoing blacks are all intelligent. The divide is quite stark.

  37. Thoughts says:

    Churchgoing blacks (from churchgoing families) are all intelligent/kind. The divide is quite stark.

    I did know some upperclass blacks who were very successful, but I don’t know if they were churchgoing…Though high-IQ, they certainly weren’t Kind/Loving people I would associate with. The B word with a capital B would be a good description of the daughters.

    I think the belief in the Christian God tempers the black ego, and Christian morals boost IQ via selective mating.

    Here’s one…Christianity’s affects on black IQ and Ego…a multigenerational study.

    (Somewhat duplicate comment from above…comment system crashed)

    • Replies: @Ed
  38. @notsaying

    I can’t find anything on the internet on this but I recall distinctly that the two of them could only adopt after getting a private bill pushed through Albany for them.

    States can pass bills of attainder?

    I thought they went to Connecticut, where there are loopholes. New York has traditionally had the strictest family law in the land, not succumbing to the no-fault fad until 2010. How far we’ve fallen…

  39. I don’t see it for sale anywhere, so it’s either still upcoming or has been completely canceled.

    According to his website, it’s still a draft:

    My current research is focused on the interaction between demography and long run economic growth, and with the determinants of social position. I am working currently on two book drafts around these issues.

    Before the Dawn: The Wealth of Medieval Europe

    There are two competing narratives of pre-industrial Europe. The first, based on day wages, suggests that for much of the period 1200-1800 Europe was richer than on the eve of the Industrial Revolution. The breakthrough to growth cannot be explained by a rise in living standards. The second argues that northern Europe saw sustained growth in the years 1200-1800, and this growth was the cause of the Industrial Revolution. However, this second narrative, to account for the conflicting wage evidence, has had to postulate a substantial Industrious Revolution, where average work hours per worker more than doubled 1200-1800, from 150 to more than 300 days per year.

    This book argues, using a large variety of evidence, that the Industrious Revolution is a fiction, and that consequently Europe pre 1800 was always wealthy. The book brings together material in 5 papers I have already written or published on this topic. But it will also explore new sources of evidence for England and elsewhere, such as the quality of housing pre 1800, occupational structure, and heights and other skeletal evidence of living standards. It will further consider the situation elsewhere in Europe – Italy, the Netherlands, and Sweden.

    For Whom the Bell Curve Tolls: Genetics, Demography and Social Outcomes

    This book will argue, based on a large genealogical database under construction in collaboration with Neil Cummins, that genetics was the major determinant of social and economic outcomes for individuals in England all through the interval 1200-2018 (see Families of England). The pattern of inheritance of social characteristics is not consistent with transmission of social abilities through human capital, culture, through family networks. This explains why the rise of mass education 1870 and later, and the arrival of the welfare state post WWII both had no measurable effects on rates of social mobility. A high degree of assortative mating through history also can explain why long run social mobility rates were so slow.

    The importance of genetic transmission means that in English history both selective migration, and class differences in reproductive success will have significant effects on the distribution and level of economic abilities in England.

    https://www.lse.ac.uk/Economic-History/People/Visiting-Academics/Professor-Greg-Clark

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  40. @Achmed E. Newman

    Suggested future titles-

    Dogman: The Hound of Monte Cristo
    Dogman: The Scratcher in the Rye

  41. @Reg Cæsar

    Gee – yes, but only a little bit. A friend of mine did change his name from Detlef to Delf – as a kid, it just so happened, maybe not even intentionally. Delf sounds quite hetero though and not that edgeless as Detlef does. But that hardly matters anymore, because there are no new kids at all now being named Detlef – I think even less than Siegfried, Theoderich, Heinrich, Dietrich or – Dieter, hehe. Friedrich didn’t meet quite the same fate. I do know a few lefties who did name their kids – Rosa and – – Friedrich (Friedrich because of Engels, Rosa – Luxemburg…). – All those out fashioned boys’ names are of Germanic origin and some (Dietrich/Dieter, Theoderich, Siegfried…) refer to war, knights, heroes, and soldiers/warriors.
    A great kid I just happened to get acquainted with recently is (red-haired!) Eric. He goes with his father hunting at night and has a few bee folks of his own. Might be 9 years old. Wanders around the village with a little cart to sell his (tasty!) forest-honey from time to time.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  42. @for-the-record

    Richard Herrnstein influentially posited in 1971 that assortative mating must have been low in the United States until the mid-20th Century, but I’m not sure the Herrnsteins knew much about America before they got here not that long ago.

  43. Sean says:
    @syonredux

    David Haig wanted to call his book Degrees of Freedom, but that title was already taken.

    Where Eagles Dare turns out to be The Way To Dusty Death. So citing Clark is foolhardy at best, shouldn’t surprise.

    https://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/2009/02/17/gregory-clark-is-an-idiot/

    Gregory Clark Is An Idiot
    POSTED ON FEBRUARY 17, 2009 BY RAZIB KHAN
    Greg Clark, chair of the UC Davis Econ department, admits he’s an idiot:

    I myself was so confident of the consensus of the end of the business cycle that I persuaded my wife after the collapse of Lehman Brothers to invest all her retirement savings in the stock market, confident that the Fed would soon make things right and we could profit from the panic of a gullible public. The line “Where is my money, idiot?” is her’s

  44. Anonymous[275] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    This is the first time that I’ve seen her speak on camera, and she comes across as a total nut for sure. This is the first time I’ve read or heard anything about this that consists of more than a headline, and it’s hard for me to conclude anything different.

  45. @Anon

    I thought both Dylan and Ronan Farrow seemed pretty convincing. So did Mia Farrow’s sister.

    The most credible individual, in my opinion, was one of the former girlfriends of Farrow’s son. Apparently, she saw Woody Allen in a very compromising position with Dylan Farrow. I see no reason for her to make up anything.

    Then you have the fact that Woody Allen knew Soon Yi Previn since she was 9 and became an adoptive father, but married her anyway. That suggests the man has some weird fetishes.

    Woody Allen seems to have been friends with a known pedophile (and brothel owner) named Jeffrey Epstein.

    The Satanic ritual abuse stuff is back in the news due to Jeffrey Epstein, Marina Abramovich, Pizza Gate, and the Rothschilds. Also, in the UK, there’s the Jimmy Savile case.

    If you want to learn more about this issue, watch this video about The Finders. It discusses how the CIA was involved with the trafficking of children and occult practices. Very disturbing though.

    Discovery Channel did an excellent documentary on how Omaha banker Larry King was involved in trafficking children to prominent politicians and senior military/intel officers in DC. He also worshipped Satan.

    Look at this.

  46. @JohnnyWalker123

    Larry King was not only on TV interviewing celebrities nightly, but was also a Satanist, child trafficker, and an Omaha banker? How did he find the time?

    • LOL: JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @Thoughts
    , @obwandiyag
    , @fish
  47. @JohnnyWalker123

    This is sick garbage.It is Mia who is guilty of child abuse. Moses Farrow, one of her sons, has a blog* where he has written in detail about his mother and Woody. He was there on the day that Woody was supposed to have “molested” Dylan and Moses explains that the details of the story are physically impossible (e.g., the little closet where it was supposed to have happened, Woody’s physical presence in the rooms of the house, etc.).

    Moses also details his mother’s incessant psychological and at times physical abuse of her children and reveals that at least 2 (maybe 3, I forget now) have either committed suicide or died from drug abuse in their early adulthood. He relates the testimony of one or more of the caregivers Mia hired as well as her maids quitting abruptly due to what they saw Mia doing, and goes into Mia’s prima dona, poor me, victimhood schtick extensively.

    She is a horrid monster and continues to be it appears, and these fools making documentaries follow right along. If I were Woody, I’d be leaving the country at this point. This kind of propaganda in the media can set off the unhinged.

    Several years ago, I happened on an interview with Woody in The Hollywood Reporter about his filmmaking and directorial style. There were almost 2,000 comments, many, many of them full of hate and false accusations. I like his films, even the ones that star Mia. What a sorry state of affairs.

    *Moses’ blog and the article could still easily be found as recent as a year ago with a simple search. He wrote the piece several years before that. It’s a good read. Good luck.

    • Agree: I, Libertine
  48. Apparently anyone who makes a multi-generational study of human genetics is now considered to be a “eugenicist”.

    From the article:

    In an email sent out to all those that signed up the organisers stated that postponement was due to a “high degree of interest beyond that which could be accommodated in a seminar”.

    A “high degree of interest” from protesters.

  49. He should consider switching to Steinbeck … so many opportunities:
    Of Mice and Men
    The Winter of our Discontent
    Their Blood is Strong
    The Red Pony

    etc. etc.

  50. Anon[168] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    A nice Asian-chick-complaining-of-racism piece at _New York Magazine_:

    https://www.thecut.com/2021/02/swallowing-the-bitterness-of-asian-american-racism.html#_ga=2.168600994.264806355.1614079022-1511967756.1614079022

    Taiwanese family moves to New Jersey and buys house in upper middleclass neighborhood, and then:

    1. Paints house red in neiborhood where houses are white with black or brown trim.

    2. Doesn’t mow law regularly.

    3. Doesn’t rake or bag leaves in the fall.

    Neighbor physician talks to them about it. The writer’s verdict: He was a Karen showing racism packaged as neighborly concern.

    Time passes, and the family moves. This anecdote falls into one of two categories: either _It Didn’t Happen_ or _There’s a Rest of the Story_. Supposedly our intrepid physician tracked them down, drove to their new house, and berated the mom about the red paint on their old house.

    Our writer now discloses that she’s a beauty editor who gets “hundreds of email pitches every day” (liar). From these hundreds she has gotten pitches about:

    1. The “fox eye” eye makeup style (upward slanting mascara on on eyes). She notes that this is racist and it culturally appropriates because it makes your eyes appear slanted (which presumably means she thinks Asian eyes are slanted for her complaint to make any sense). I Googled this, and there is a big controversy over it, on the level of white girls wearing hoop earrings, which blacks invented and patented.

    2. A Gua-sha facial massage stone, sold by white people, and Chinese medicine companies run by white people. I have a problem with Chinese medicine sold by _Chinese_ people. It’s no less bullshit if Chinese sell it. I guess it’s like “religion is OK if it’s Islam.”

    3. She ran out of makeup pitches to complain about, so she claims a game maker emailed her about their redesigned mahjong tiles for the American market. I’m guessing this is a lie and it’s just something she found out about on Twitter.

    Next, she claims that everyone she knows has been harassed or knows someone who has been harassed over the coronavirus, which segues into a recounting of all the attacks on Asians, by black men, although she omits the latter fact. And she complains that the media doesn’t cover anti-Asian violence (by blacks) enough. Hey, I know the feeling.

    There is only one mention of hair: She is guilty about the fact that, unlike black women, “potential employers don’t discriminate against my hair texture for a job.” Implying here that she knows black women who have been denied jobs because of their hair. Liar.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    , @Deckin
    , @Polistra
  51. @JohnnyWalker123

    What I really want to know is: what is the Woody Allen connection to Jeffrey Epstein?

    • Replies: @Pericles
    , @Polistra
  52. Thoughts says:
    @Steve Sailer

    But David Letterman found the time to have a bedroom above his set for some playtime with the interns.

    Everyone has forgotten that already.

    The real stuff is bad enough if people didn’t have memories of goldfish.

  53. Anon[168] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Sorry.

    I said the one or two most bulletproof facts among the, I’m sure, thousands of wonderful pieces of evidence against Woody Allen. I count about eight in your post.

    The way this works is you as the expert rank all the evidence from strongest to weakest, and tell me just the stongest single piece of evidence, nothing else. If I look at it and it’s bullshit, you lose, since by definition number 2 and all the rest are weaker than your curated number 1 that I examined.

    Otherwise it becomes a lifetime project. “Did you read that thousand page book on the JFK assasination?” “Uh, no.”

    I find that people in situations like this have trouble picking just one thing, since it forces them to see that there is no one thing that is bulletproof. Piles upon piles of flakey evidence equals no evidence. Three flaky pieces of evidence do not add up to one solid piece of evidence.

  54. Or, “The Not So Green Hills Of Africa.”

    Of course, Hemingway loved African males as they earned their living by the only two means, apart from novel writing, Hemingway thought a man should earn his living: hunting and fishing.

  55. ic1000 says:
    @Lot

    > We’ve had a nice long run Fellow Whites, but it may be the 1200s or 1905 again soon. Ghengis Khan and the Japanese were kind and gentle in victory, right?

    It would be informative to engage some psychometricians to turn this into an item on the GSS. Suggested first draft:

    A. Composite bows and Voyage of the Damned, not relevant to Current Events.
    B. Not understanding the allusions, I have no opinion.
    C. That’s racist, unless my Outer Party guides inform me otherwise.
    D. No, the Hordes and the top dogs of Tsushima turned out to be ruthless.

    What’s the correlation between answer “C” and “total number of social sciences and humanities credit-hours”? About 0.6, I’d wager.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  56. @Lot

    “ He also theorised that “200 years from now the descendants of enslaved African-Americans will still be underrepresented”.

    Of course I don’t know, but there is a big possibility that in next 200 years we’ll have a genetically altered homo sapiens, so that racial composition & traits we are used to associate with races could be rather different. My guess is that the template for future human will be, say, 80% white.

    Also, traditional black race will either disappear or …. I don’t know. But they won’t be in the global position as they are now.

  57. Anon[383] • Disclaimer says:

    The upcoming book is mentioned in this presentation by Clark at 43:03, and the presentation in general seems to deal with the themes of the upcoming book:

    Says a commenter, the TL;DR is “Social status transmission is wholly incompatible with a cultural mechanism, and it exactly fits a genetic one.”

    Check the slide at 14:30, full of equations matching degree of relation to genotype and phenotype matching.

    • Thanks: Peter Johnson
  58. @JohnnyWalker123

    Poor Woody.

    He’s not a Holocaust survivor. Worse, he is a post-Mia walking corpse.

  59. Ed says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    It’s kind of scary how TV manipulates even smart people. It’s a one sided documentary without his perspective. It’s supposed to devastating propaganda, to take it as the gospel truth is a big mistake.

  60. Ed says:
    @Thoughts

    Blacks attend church more frequently than any other group in America, so this doesn’t make sense.

    https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/

    • Replies: @Thoughts
  61. Anon[352] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Boomers turn their brains off when it comes to Jewish pedos. They did the same thing with Polanski, after he drugged and sodomized a thirteen year-old girl.

    Woody Allen married his adopted step-daughter, after being in the same family with her since she was nine. If any White guy did this, people would immediately see he was in all likelihood grooming her over this time.

    Non-Boomer: Uhhhhhhh…I think Woody Allen is a pedo stepdad.
    Boomer: But he’s just so talented!

  62. The problem for Wokeism is that it’s thin material. Not much to it intellectually. You have the initial thrill of kicking White. And for sick sadists the opportunity is there to attack White children in the classroom.

    But a religion with legs need more meat to endure, doesn’t it? Even astrology has stuff to get lost in. Critical Race Theory and all the rest are one-trick ponies that use heavy, obscure verbiage to look academic. Somebody said you could learn the essence of Wokeism, PC and Postmodernism in a long weekend.

  63. Spangel12 says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    It’s the only way forward. Blacks are going to be half the world by the end of the century. We can’t kill them. We can’t live with them. The way forward is voluntary genetic enhancements that render blacks so they are capable of living peacefully within a modern society. To be clear, most black Americans can live peacefully within a modern society. It’s only the bottom sixth or so that brings violence, destruction and chaos wherever they go. In Africa, the bottom sixth here would be perhaps the bottom quarter or third there. Which is a substantial portion of humanity that can’t abide by our interpersonal norms.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  64. Jack D says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Well, Woody Allen attended a party at Jeffrey Epstein’s house. That settles it for sure.

    If I want to know the honest truth about any matter I watch a “documentary” on HBO. I know that they have no political agenda and would never sensationalize anything so whatever they say must be gospel.

    When the child molestation allegations originally surfaced, Allen was investigated not by the crack HBO team but by the Connecticut authorities and Dylan was interviewed in several different venues (the criminal authorities, the social services agencies, in connection with a child custody trial, by doctors from the Yale Medical Center Child Abuse Program, etc.) . Their conclusion was that Dylan’s statements gave the impression of repeating something learned – in other words that Mia Farrow had coached her to tell an invented story. Mia Farrow, although nuts, is a very good actress and must have been a great acting coach.

    • Agree: Forbes
    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  65. El Dato says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    AFAIK Jeffrey Epstein is STILL NOT A PAEDOPHILE even though he may lust after barely legals and a bit below.

    Meanwhile

    America Re-canceled? Black activist Young Pharaoh booted from anti-censorship themed CPAC event for ‘reprehensible views’

  66. Jack D says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    A private bill and a bill of attainder are two different things. One gives you something, the other takes away.

  67. @anon

    I’m waiting for the 12-part tell-all series on Mel Brooks

  68. Jack D says:
    @Thoughts

    You can clearly see a difference in Christian blacks versus non Christian blacks in America.

    Just not true. The Black Church is not the uptight White Church. The White Church is (or was) judgmental – you’ve been messin’ around – we’ll cast you out and stamp a scarlet letter on your chest. The Black Church welcomes the sinner. I’ll leave it to you to decide which one is more Jesus-like, but if eugenics is your goal then the Black Church isn’t gonna produce it.

    • Replies: @Thoughts
  69. Anon[385] • Disclaimer says:

    I do wonder if there’s a correlation between those who believe political, genetic, and economic nonsense like liberals, and those who fall out of the elite class and slide down the economic ladder. I wish there was a large-scale study of social justice warriors and their families going back a few generations to look at their economic wealth. The rioting class appears to come from the Have Nots.

  70. He also theorised that “200 years from now the descendants of enslaved African-Americans will still be underrepresented”

    I predict that 200 years from now there won’t be many of these descendants. So maybe they’ll be proportionally represented because they’ll only be 1% of the population?

    Speaking of predictions, Zvi is banning The NY Times from his blog for nearly ruining Scott Alexander’s life:

    https://thezvi.wordpress.com/2021/02/18/22428/#more-22428

    Also, as some combination of retaliation and its continued crusade against the evils of the tech industry and the notion of freedom of speech, the New York Times finally published its hit piece on Scott Alexander. I devote a brief section to it, the upside of which is that the paper is now permanently banned from this space.

    As Scott says, “don’t bet against Zvi.” Will the Times go out of business after Zvi’s banning?

  71. anonymous[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @notsaying

    I myself find it hard to believe that genetics determines most of what happens to us, too. But the only way to fight his argument is to listen to it and find out what it is.

    But there is a risk that some percentage of White youths will believe his argument and as a consequence not want to mate with other races. You can’t be assured that all of them will fight his argument.

  72. Bannon says:
    @Lot

    The more interesting question because it changes is “Yellow or White Man on Top?” We’ve had a nice long run Fellow Whites, but it may be the 1200s or 1905 again soon. Ghengis Khan and the Japanese were kind and gentle in victory, right? Nothing to worry about.

    There’s not enough average difference for IQ to determine this outcome. First of all, “close enough” counts in IQ. Whites do not lag by that much — about 5 points when populations are compared. Secondly, whites are currently lumped together almost everywhere in reporting statistical data, while Asians are often compared using tiny slices of potentially outlier populations (such as recent immigrants, or small countries like Singapore). No one (including me) wants to do what the Germans did and start talking about the different “brands” of whites (Nordic, Slavic, Mediterranean, etc.). But the white population has plenty of “Little Singapores” in it that no one wants to notice.

    Whatever the outcome of the ascendancy of China and the Asians, it won’t be because there aren’t enough smart whites.

    The defining feature of white failure in the future is more likely to be that the white population is capable of concluding it has no moral right to live. The decline of the global white population would be a suicide, not a defeat. It’s probably similar to what truly happened to the Romans — no one walking around today truly calls himself Roman, but they are surely among us.

    • Thanks: Mark G.
  73. Mr. Anon says:

    Adam Smith Business School postpone seminar by eugenicist

    This is a highly dishonest headline. Believing that genetics is important in human affairs is not the same thing as being a eugenecist.

  74. Black Female Rapper Azealia Banks had a deeply transphobic response to a fan who told her she needed to convert to Judaism in order to become Jewish

    Azealia Banks faced criticism online after sharing a transphobic response to a fan.
    The fan told Banks she didn’t automatically become Jewish just because of her new fiancé.
    Banks then called trans women “hot gay boys” with plastic surgery and said she was “Jewish now.”

    Source: https://www.insider.com/azealia-banks-engaged-jewish-transphobia-response-backlash-2021-2

    Female Rapper Azealia Banks is engaged to a Jewish Man. She posted about it on her instagram and said she is now Jewish. Her her fans gave her some pushback saying she needed to convert to become Jewish. Her response was as follows:

    “because why can you chop ur cock and say ur a girl but I can’t catch the Jewish nut and be Jewish? Stop trying to exclude black people from everything”

    (She didn’t capitalize black.)
    When people tried to say that trans women are really women, this was her response:

    “no you girls are just hot gay boys with beat faces and plastic surgery. I live for the trans girls but the trans shit is really a non issue. Just gay boys on hormones using male aggression to force their ways into women’s spaces. Y’all are just beautiful niggas lmao. Accept yourselves”

    A lot of isteve material packed in there

  75. Pericles says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    When he meets his archenemy, we will get to read “Dog Man bites Man Dog”.

  76. Pericles says:
    @kaganovitch

    Maybe they’re cousins or something?

  77. Mike Tre says:

    I’m waiting for Steve to publish The Mask of San Fernando, where a mild mannered Valley dweller seeks revenge upon an unsuspecting member of a random foursome (who insulted proper etiquette by rolling his short sleeves up to his shoulders and flirting with the beer cart girl a little too suggestively without a mask on,) by getting him sloppy bored over talk of golf course architecture, before luring him into the lounge, tying his shoelaces together, and forcing him to watch Mickelson’s famous missed putt at the 2019 US Open* on repeat, for the rest of his life.

    *I looked that up.

  78. Erik L says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    A documentary can make you believe anything. Watch two different documentaries about Jack the Ripper and after each you will be certain a different guy was Jack

    • Agree: I, Libertine
  79. Erik L says:

    When your strongest counter-argument is “Some have asserted his statistical analysis on which these conclusions are based is highly questionable…”

  80. jb says:
    @Lot

    If we take Steve’s “Most Important Graph” seriously, what’s most likely is that 200 years from now every country on Earth will be majority black, the world will be on an ever steeper downward slide, and the dwindling non-black populations that keep things from going totally to hell will be facing ever increasing pressure from the growing and resentful black majorities. Isn’t that where we are really headed? Isn’t it?

    • Agree: Charles St. Charles
  81. The Old Man and the g

    I believe this was the working title for “Gran Torino.”

    • Replies: @very old statistician
  82. @JohnnyWalker123

    I’m no Woody Allen fan. The ideas that his movies are worth your time always struck me as a mass delusion. And yes, he has a demonstrated predilection for women who are barely of legal age. Just watch those same movies. He’s asked his audiences again and again to suspend their disbelief that hot young women would be willing to get within shouting distance of such an old, scrawny nebbish. Some of his films make me want to wretch. So, at first, I thought this HBO documentary was making a strong case. Then I looked into it further.

    Allen’s not a pedophile. Maybe he’s an ephebophile, but that’s something different. Have you ever heard of a pedophile making it all the way to his eighties with charges lodged against him by (or, more accurately, on the behalf of) only one girl. Doesn’t happen.

    If you care about this mini-controversy, you really ought to check out what Moses, another of her many adopted children, has to say about it. He was there. Don’t make up your mind till you read it.

    Mia Farrow was a nutjob from the word go. Her father was a notorious drunk and philanderer. One of her brothers committed suicide, the other is serving a long stretch in prison for – wait for it – child molestation. Three of her eleven children are dead already -all three, it appears, as a result of psychological issues. The nuttiness of her sister, dear Prudence, is memorialized in song. And while she’s never started a relationship with any of the children of one of her husbands/lovers, she has her own experience with age-inappropriate romances. Remember her and Old Blue Eyes?

    So one can imagine without too much trouble how the discovery of naked pictures of Soon-Yi in Woody’s possession could have driven her off the edge, and sent her on this lifelong vendetta. As Steve indicates on this thread, it’s all-too-easy to plant false memories of sexual assault in the pliable minds of kids.

    Am I certain he’s innocent? No. Unlike Moses, I wasn’t there. But it will take more than slickly-produced propaganda to convince me otherwise.

    • Agree: Polistra
  83. Alfa158 says:
    @Anon

    After the property was sold parents of the alleged victims were allowed some time to do their own digging on the daycare property before it was redeveloped. There were educated, successful, otherwise normal parents actually trying to find sacrificed babies and the entrance to the three mile long tunnel that some of the kids said was used to take them to Los Angeles International airport for flights on which they were abused by Chuck Norris and Ronald McDonald.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  84. @Reg Cæsar

    An attainder is trial by legislature.

    Like when the politicians pass “civil rights” laws. By obvious implication, the “guilty” political-outs are stigmatized.

    Like when the politicians vote for compulsory school attendance. All juveniles are guilty and sentenced to 10+ year prison terms.

  85. @ScarletNumber

    The old man and the g spot.

    What the Republicans need to do is get out front and run Sarah Palin on a platform of remedial education for the American men on keeping their women properly supplied with orgasms.

    We can still say orgasm, right?

    • Replies: @Curle
  86. @ScarletNumber

    For those who don’t realize, even though Davis teaches …

    Davis?

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  87. Travis says:
    @Lot

    in 200 years there will probably not be many white people left. The number of white people in the US is declining and this decline is starting to accelerate. The US white population peaked in 2014 at 197 million and is now 195 million, and includes millions of people who are non-european whites from the middle East and North Africa. The 2010 to 2020 decade will be the first in the nation’s history in which the white population declined in numbers. In 2020 whites have fallen below 59% of the US population.

    White births shows the decline in the number of whites is accelerating. The combination of massive immigration and miscegenation will ensure that whites will be a minority of Americans in 20 years.

    Decade -US White Births
    1960-1969 – 31 million
    1970-1979 – 25 million
    1980-1989 -24 million
    1990-1999 – 23 million
    2000-2009-22 million
    2010-2019- 20 million

    in the year 2100 there will be ~500 million people living in America and ~120 million whites. So just 25% of the US population will be white when the 1.7 million white babies born this year will be 80 years-old.

    • Replies: @rebel yell
  88. ChrisZ says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Reputation? Pedophilia?

    Johnny, I’m sure you agree that on the basis of such claims, Woody’s chances of getting a lifetime achievement Oscar would only improve.

  89. Hmm. I’d better order Son Also Rises RIGHT NOW.

  90. unit472 says:

    I know Sailer has queried his readers about things like are there any wealthy antebellum families who are still rich and I mentioned that the Duke tobacco family managed to survive the war and grow even more properous afterward but there aren’t many famiiies who manage to stay rich beyond a few generations. Hell, Anderson Cooper was a Vanderbilt and if David Rockefeller died a billionaire he would be a low level one by today’s standards with dozens of less exalted Rockefellers still living on old John D. Rockefellers estate.

    The oldest wealthy family I am aware are of the Garibaldis who run Monaco. They go back 7 centuries but being titled aristocrats with a fiefdom too small to get invaded probably helped them avoid trouble. Most other families manage to have a wastrel get control of the family money and since its a lot harder to make a fortune than to blow one time, taxes and ex wives take their toll.

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @Lurker
  91. res says:

    This was interesting (from the linked article).

    In an email sent out to all those that signed up the organisers stated that postponement was due to a “high degree of interest beyond that which could be accommodated in a seminar”. This high degree of interest was in spite of the evident lack of promotion for the event by the Adam Smith Business School on their social media channels and the unusual ticket system where you had to email them directly to receive the event link, leading some to suspect people were registering to protest the online event. Some students were advocating for people to register and not attend in order to take up all available slots in order to limit the audience of the professor.

    Worth noting that the article comments there are few, but in favor of Clark.

    Clark mentions the book in this 2017 interview.
    https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/democraciaabierta/we-are-all-equal-but-in-very-long-run/

    In my forthcoming book, From who the bell curve tolls, I am going to explore why social mobility is so resistant to change. And it will contain a controversial claim: because genetics have a surprising importance in determining a person´s social position, whatever the social environment may be. As part of the analysis, we have started going through some data coming in from Russia which suggest that even in societies that have been transformed by revolution, the rate of social mobility does not change that much. People just adapt. Some turned out to be very good Communists, others turned out to be not that good. The interesting puzzle is why is it so difficult to change the rate of social mobility.

    P.S. Steve, had you seen this May 2014 article?
    https://www.chronicle.com/article/for-whom-the-bell-curve-tolls/
    I wonder if he cribbed the headline from you. Perhaps from your comments on this article.
    https://www.econlib.org/archives/2014/05/the_great_grand.html

    The title was also used for this 1995 review of the book itself.
    http://apsychoserver.psych.arizona.edu/JJBAReprints/PSYC621/Sternberg_For%20whom%20the%20bell%20curve%20tolls_1995.pdf

  92. Hans says:
    @Anon

    Yeah. Stuff fades away. LOL. This one faded instantly, moments before it was gonna be aired:

    Franklin Cover Up – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DquLnRycZms

  93. Thoughts says:
    @Ed

    So your saying that the Ghetto blacks with the guns go to church every Sunday?

    • Replies: @Ed
  94. Thoughts says:
    @Jack D

    The black churchgoers I’ve known have been pretty decent (including the Southern Churches)

    Maybe there’s a study on this?

    My sample size of Blacks tends to be larger than most whites, so I don’t expect many iStever’s to agree with me

  95. Yeah, that correlation really means causation now, don’t it!

    Couldn’t be any other variables involved. Nah, impossible. It was a perfectly-realized scientific experiment.

  96. Lot says:
    @Anon

    Do an image search for Mia Farrow if you want to know what “crazy eyes” looks like. There’s a remarkable consistency in them from her 20s to 70s. In maybe 5% of them she looks drugged out or sleepy instead.

    It’s interesting that people who accuse Allen always feel the need to lie. He was not Soon-Yi’s adoptive father, and he first had sex with her when she was 21. The age gap and how he met her are creepy but no indication of pedo inclinations.

    Soon-Yi also looks older than her biological age in photos and has a mannish build and jaw. She has a nice smile at least but probably is in the bottom 10% of girly among non-obese asian women.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Reg Cæsar
  97. Deckin says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Woody Allen is one of those rare individuals who has aged incredibly well simply because he always looked old. Can you think of anyone who has this little variance in physiognomy over the span of decades?

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    , @syonredux
    , @Tusk
  98. @Steve Sailer

    You remind me of the old adage: “When you complain you’re complaining; when I complain, it’s legitimate grievance.”

    In your case: “When you peddle a conspiracy theory, it’s conspiracy theory; when I peddle a conspiracy theory, it’s legitimate science.”

    • Replies: @El Dato
  99. Rob McX says:

    Hopefully, Clark is now working on a book about the terrible toll that senility takes on IQ: The Old Man and the g.

    When you write a book on golf course architecture, you can call it The Old Man and the Tee.

  100. El Dato says:

    Oh I just noticed

    Adam Smith Business School postpone seminar by eugenicist

    The word “eugenicist” is really the “wire fraud” of the goodthinkpress.

    “You didn’t do anything but we will get for … eugenicisms!” (Shock Sound!)

    • Agree: Farenheit
  101. kihowi says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Satanism doesn’t exist, not because celebrities aren’t evil, but because they aren’t spiritual. It assumes that they accept a higher power than them that they need to worship and take seriously, presumably doing what His Satanic Majesty would want and not doing what he wouldn’t want. So, like a devout Christian, only different. I just can’t imagine them being like that, can you?

    Also because Satan doesn’t exist, but I’m on Unz and I stopped looking for those kinds of discussions on the internet around 2005, so forget that one.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  102. @Jack D

    Why do Dylan and Ronan continue to maintain their story? What is there to be gained?

  103. @Anon

    McMartin Pre-school

    • Replies: @El Dato
  104. Anon[319] • Disclaimer says:

    ‘Mysterious mix of drive and ability,’ translated means, ‘evolved for better adaption for a modern culture.’

    Drive=farmer genes from early farming cultures. The ability to work hard all day long, week in and week out, without getting tired, bored, or fed up with your work. Hunter-gatherers don’t have this, and can only do intense work in spurts. They get tired, bored, and fed up constantly.

    Black men have more hunter-gatherer genes than farmer. Black women do most of the work in the farm fields in Africa, and it’s not an accident that they’re more employable and successful than black men in the US. Farmer genes appear to be sex-linked to the female gender in the black community. Hunter-gatherer, by the way, is really a gendered term. Men hunt and women gather in these societies. It appears that gatherer genes likely evolved at some point into farmer genes. When white men acquired the farmer gene, then bam, modern society became possible.

    Ability=smart genes.

    That’s all it is. Genes for brains plus genes for constant energy that you get from being descended from successful prehistoric farmers make you successful in modern society.

  105. kihowi says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I won’t watch it, because documentaries are the most ruthlessly manipulative medium around, but I don’t doubt that he’s a pedo. Just sort of getting to know his personality through the years was enough to convince me of that. To me it’s not subtle.

    The real question is, does it matter? I guess it would if you had looked up to him as a sort of moral superior who had the wisdom to tell you how to live your life, the way everybody on the internet seems to look up to celebrities. Until the 90s at least in Europe people convinced of their own intelligence did see him that way. But has he ever positioned himself differently than the weirdo shlemiel who let his grabbag of neuroses help him coming up with quippy scripts? Did he ever tell anybody who to vote for?

    Anyway, it won’t make a difference to me. The movies that are sort of funny are still sort of funny, the ones that are just lame are still just lame.

  106. @Alfa158

  107. His @$$holiness Frankie: ‘The Sold Man in the See’.

  108. @Polistra

    Maybe Dory Previn put a curse on the Lemon Haired Lady who took Andre away.

    Those lemon haired ladies of twenty or so
    Of course you must see them, just don’t let me know
    Don’t let me know, whatever you do
    For you are younger than I, younger than I, younger than I
    And I am weaker than you

    I’ll give you a year
    Maybe two, maybe three
    Then what will happen?
    Where will I be?
    You’ll still be a boy
    But what about me?
    What about me?
    What about me?

    You’re so self-centred, the games that you play
    Do as you please, well, you will anyway
    Of course you will see them, no use to pretend
    For they are younger than I, younger than I
    Those lemon haired ladies
    And they will win in the end

  109. @Anon

    Woody’s wistful memoir:
    ‘My Farrow Lady’.

  110. @Lockean Proviso

    Two volumes of Dogman’s reminiscences:

    ‘Mansfield Bark’
    ‘In the Time of Collar’

    • LOL: fish
    • Replies: @Lurker
  111. Forbes says:
    @notsaying

    what you went to college for, which is to grapple with big ideas.

    Maybe it was, once.

    Today, college is a postponement of adulthood and adult responsibilities. It’s a four-year (or more) vacation from reality. Its purpose is collecting an attendance certificate entitling one to claim the credential of a ‘college degree,’ which qualifies the bearer to interview for a myriad of jobs that presumptively avoids manual labor or sweat–though, not necessarily avoids boredom and drudgery.

    Knowledge acquisition and subject-matter mastery (of what higher education formerly consisted) is no longer deemed appropriate or necessary, as it inculcates independent thinking and judgment, where conforming drones are the preferred employee character-type.

  112. vhrm says:
    @Anonymous

    not sure who you consider american “elites”, but even among bright professionals, say, iq 115+ very few know that HBD differences explain most of the bad race related gaps. They simply don’t know.

    Christianity is probably a hindrance too: focusing on humility and on “were all equal on the eyes of God” and “the first will be last and the last will be first” type messaging, while good for some things, does NOT make it easy to say oh yeah those people are poorer because they’re just worse than those other people. Basically they’re cursed. Their kids will be too and there’s nothing we can do about it.

    Yes, Christianity has the whole thing that different petite have different talents etc, so it’s not incompatible with hbd, but still, the focus is on humility, raising and helping the less fortunate, not on culling the weak.

    anyway, my point is that it’s not that there are low iq people at the top, it’s that even smart people literally don’t know how wrong the blank slate theory is.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @rebel yell
  113. Anon[319] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Tiger Woods was seriously hurt with multiple leg injuries in a ‘one-car rollover traffic collusion.’

    Sounds like Woods got drunk, hit a tree or a telephone pole, rolled, and wasn’t bothering to wear a seat belt.

    This press releases about this one are going to be as weird as his last car ‘accident,’ namely the one with his wife and the golf club. Everyone is going to deny Woods was under the influence or was so stupid he drove right into a palm tree. It’s also very likely his golf career is over, if his legs were badly messed up.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  114. Alfa158 says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Are you telling me that future humanity won’t look like the Spacers in The Expanse?
    I think you have explained something that puzzled me about the show’s depiction of humanity in space: Where the hell are all the Chinese? On present trends you might expect them to be the dominant ethnicity. There are a lot of them now, they tend to have high intelligence, drive, education, self-discipline and ethnic unity and pride. China is a growing industrial and technological giant which is the factory floor for planet Earth, and they are cranking out hundreds of first rate STEM graduates sweeping math olympiads while Western schools are obsessing over DIE initiatives.
    You would expect to see most of the spacefarers being Chinese descendants but in the series there are only a handful of visibly Chinese characters and instead we see large numbers of Africans. So maybe the Chinese we see are the few holdouts whose parents wanted them to look Asian?
    As far as comprehensive genetic engineering of human traits, that still seems to be one of those scientific dreams such as fusion power, cure for cancer, and sentient artificial intelligence that are always just 50 years away, but the Chinese are going to give it a good try. If they succeed we might expect to see space populated by 150 average IQ people who look like Asian anime characters, advertising models or Korean cosmetic surgery aficionados. Pale skin, dark straight hair, narrow faces, round eyes but with a vaguely Eurasian look.

  115. Hodag says:

    What do you know about the area where Tiger crashed this morning, Steve? I have never been to LA.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    , @Lot
    , @AnotherDad
  116. Forbes says:
    @Sean

    The issue of Clark’s investment advice is far more a question about timing than its wisdom.

    Having recommended buying after the Lehman collapse, the S&P 500 has more than doubled, despite the severe decline in the wake of Lehman from which markets have smartly recovered.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  117. Ian Smith says:
    @Polistra

    (((Andrea Peyser))) is defending (((Woody Allen)))? Imagine my shock!

  118. “200 years from now the descendants of enslaved African-Americans will still be underrepresented”

    so, any credence yet on my hypothesis that the africans who made the journey across the Atlantic were less intelligent and less capable in general than the africans who weren’t turned into property? that seems extremely likely. the ruling africans mostly sold the lower classes off to the traders. it wasn’t the smart ruling class people who got captured out of the blue and turned into involuntary farmers. heck, the Atlantic slave trade might even have been…eugenic, for Africa.

    same situation in Mexico, Central America, and South America, when the conquistadors showed up. the ruling class locals were subjugating the less intelligent, less capable, second rate natives. certainly an open border with the US is a good thing for Latin American rulers today, who can get rid of their lower classes by sending them up north.

    imagine having terrible, annoying, destructive neighbors who ruin everything, break stuff, commit crime, bring property values down, then one day just selling them off to some Chinese labor factory, and never seeing them again. how incredible of a deal did the rulers of Africa get with the slave trade? you mean i can get paid to make the trailer park people disappear permanently? where do i sign up?

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    , @Ed
  119. vhrm says:
    @notsaying

    But the only way to fight his argument is to listen to it and find out what it is. That is getting an education. Just saying “I don’t want to think about this idea, I don’t want to hear my beliefs challenged” is ignoring what you went to college for, which is to grapple with big ideas.

    I fully agree that banning this speech is a corruption of the nature of a university.

    However, even a couple of decades ago I went to college because that’s what you did to get a STEM job (long before that acronym was used). Or just a white collar job.

    I am not aware of a single person who went to college undergrad for the purpose of grappling with big humanities type ideas though certainly such ideas did show up sometimes and we grapes with them occasionally mostly inadvertently or for fun.

    Also, I’ve never understood why anybody cares about what college students, especially undergrads, have to say about anything. I mean… these people aren’t even trusted to drink alcohol, but apparently their general, non-specialist, views on the nature of man and society are something important to pay attention to?

    • Agree: Calvin Hobbes
    • Replies: @Polistra
  120. Anonymous[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @vhrm

    not sure who you consider american “elites”, but even among bright professionals, say, iq 115+ very few know that HBD differences explain most of the bad race related gaps.

    How are you defining your term “HBD differences”? (Yes, I know what the acronym stands for.)

    • Replies: @vhrm
  121. @Lockean Proviso

    Good ones! You, too, Int’l Jew.

    • Thanks: Lockean Proviso
  122. MEH 0910 says:
    @Hodag

    “On February 23, 2021, at approximately 7:12 AM, LASD responded to a single vehicle roll-over traffic collision on the border of Rolling Hills Estates and Rancho Palos Verdes,” officials say.

    “The vehicle was traveling northbound on Hawthorne Boulevard, at Blackhorse Road, when it crashed. The vehicle sustained major damage.”

    Tiger Woods Injured in Car Crash After Vehicle Rolls Over

    • Replies: @Barnard
    , @El Dato
    , @Gwen
  123. fish says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Larry King was not only on TV interviewing celebrities nightly, but was also a Satanist, child trafficker, and an Omaha banker? How did he find the time?

    I bet when you have The Prince of Darkness on staff time management suddenly gets a whole lot more efficient.

    “C’mon Larry…..those souls aren’t going to collect themselves!”

  124. @Alfa158

    Jokes aside, but, as I said- I know that I don’t know. Just….

    Fusion power & cancer cure are well known failures, but who says that they are something we should ponder on when trying to imagine future? Futurology is a big failure, one should just skim through Herman Kahn’s books- and his failures are instructive.

    Why should China dominate? An old example: who, in 1600, could have predicted that England would be so powerful in 1800- and not India, China, Spanish or Ottoman empires?

    Then, there are periods when civilization, so to speak, goes into overdrive. Just take 30 years from 1900 to 1930. In 1930 you have: telephone, radio, quantum mechanics & relativity, cubism, modernism & expressionism, tanks, film, gramophones, cars, planes, psychoanalysis, submarines, communism, fascism, …. a completely new world no one could have predicted in 1900.

    So, it is tricky to extrapolate to 20-30 years period in the future; for 200-300 years, it is impossible.

  125. Anonymous[302] • Disclaimer says:

    The Standard Deviations of Kilimanjaro

  126. Pretty sure that one’s more of a hi-lo Strindberg/O’Connor tag team. Would that it were only 100 IQers.

    Furthermore that’s something darker and deeper than society they’re sensing.

  127. Lot says:
    @Hodag

    Palos Verdes is an expensive and idyllic suburban area. For a hilly area, the roads seem very safe, better and wider than the Hollywood Hills for example.

  128. Barnard says:
    @MEH 0910

    It is stunning to me that Tiger was driving himself around L.A. given the amount medication he has to be on following these surgeries and the previous problems he has had with them. Is this another case where he is too cheap to take the necessary steps to protect himself?

    • Agree: Travis
  129. @Bardon Kaldian

    Of course I don’t know, but there is a big possibility that in next 200 years we’ll have a genetically altered homo sapiens, so that racial composition & traits we are used to associate with races could be rather different. My guess is that the template for future human will be, say, 80% white.

    Also, traditional black race will either disappear or …. I don’t know. But they won’t be in the global position as they are now.

    BD–This is a good/interesting point that i’ve thought about a bit myself.

    There’s the technical questions.

    But then also the question “What does ‘my children’ mean if you’ve alter a bunch of their characteristics?” It’s one thing to say “oh, i’d like her to have blue eyes” or “i’d like him to be taller” and another to start mucking around will a whole bunch of characteristics that define “who you are”. And then, i’ve thought that maybe the technology will allow you to pick and choose from your own DNA. “The best of you.”

    Then the racial stuff is at a whole ‘nother level. After you’re done fixing up blacks’ DNA for civilization–adding 100s of CC of brain volume, reorienting neural activity for higher intelligence, conscientiousness, cooperation and lower time preference … are they still “black”? And does anyone–other than blacks–think the appearance of blacks is “attractive”.

    And then who actually provides this? and/or makes this happen? The sort of people having lots of babies in Africa are not the sort of people sitting down to do genetic selection. Babies will continue to come from most people–and certainly most dumb people–“the old fashioned way”, unless there is a politically imposed stop (i.e. forced birth control).

    Personally i’m not so sure we even get there. The PLA labs could cook up a “racially aware” virus well before the DNA fiddling goes mainstream.

    The future is going to be wild.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  130. mikemikev says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    The Germans tried that.

    • Replies: @Polistra
  131. It’s time to “exit” from ossified academic institutions.

    Blockchain gives us the tools to do so.

    We need a DAO (decentralized autonomous organization) focusing on research into HBD, psychometrics, eugenics, and similar unhandshakeworthy tabooed by the Cathedral. These Galilean heroes do not deserve to subsist at the whims of HR affirmative action hires and limp-wristed university administrators. They need to be be able to work on their projects with ample resources and perfect economic security – and to get rich doing so (their utility to civilization being several orders of magnitude higher than the average beigeocratic bugman in academia).

    I am going to to make this happen.

    • Thanks: MEH 0910
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Lot
  132. @Hodag

    Doofus. Like i was saying–keep your eyes on the road.

    Definitely, not the best way to recover from back surgery.

    And what’s he still doing in California anyway? Stay a day or two and they want to tax your ass!

  133. Rob McX says:
    @Anon

    Our writer now discloses that she’s a beauty editor who gets “hundreds of email pitches every day”

    “Greetings and God bless you. You have won the Nigerian lottery…”

  134. syonredux says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Woody Allen seems to have been friends with a known pedophile (and brothel owner) named Jeffrey Epstein.

    From what I’ve seen, Epstein liked jailbait (i.e., girls who were below the age of consent but well past puberty). That’s not paedophilia, which is usually characterized as sexual interest in children who have not gone through puberty.

    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  135. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Your pun portfolio resembles summer required-reading options (except Maugham) from my youth. Kids today get a manga adaptation of Octavia Butler, I think. Heller might as well be Maimonides, obviously, but is Steinbeck still held to be woke/fortified nowadays? Despite being Mexiphile and pinko-green his top books seem passé for academia, not too interesting for Depts. of Postcolonial Bingo or Sexual-Revolution Studies. He was an early-celebrity-era geezer who loved the USSR less out of progressive faith than macho flexing. Even as a captive of the school system in the ‘90s I figured his residual power base to be not actual farmhand hoi polloi, more like suburban white-lady teachers/gays entranced by the rugged yet clean-cut magazine mystique he accumulated.

    Speaking of which, George Clooney’s Catch-22 looked as disposable and off-brand-Tom-Hanks as the rest of his ancestor-worship projects, but AFAICT liberals also ignored/forgot it right away too. I think they prefer more bondage-freak sci-fi-dystopia in their WWII nostalgia, the “Twilight Zone”-meets-“Cabaret” flavor that HBO and Bezos have been churning out.

  136. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dieter Kief

    Not instigating any cross-cultural breakthroughs here, I trust, by pointing out that the practice among you people of shortening “Wilhelm” to “Wim” is a 9.0 on the Gay Richter Scale

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  137. El Dato says:
    @MEH 0910

    Where Tiger Woods goes, there goes the West.

  138. Frau Katze says: • Website
    @ScarletNumber

    Nationality, ethnicity… They mean nothing to the cancel crowd.

    For an example of the same mindset: The fanatical Iranian Ayatollahs, led by Khomeini strongly disapproved of anything faintly resembling Iranian nationalism. Children should be given Islamic (and thus Arabic) names, although no attempt was made to enforce it. (The support just wasn’t there).

    You can tell something about an Iranian man’s parents by his given name. Secularists pick names like Darius and Cyrus, that date back to the era before Islam. No devoutly religious Iranian would give a son such a name.

  139. Anonymous[224] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Also, in the UK, there’s the Jimmy Savile case.

    Jimmy Saville was a necrophiliac, not a satanist. He famously requested (and was given) the keys to the morgue of a hospice where he volunteered.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  140. @notsaying

    It goes to show the dangers in straying from first principles. People who want to be parents should be able to live together; if they don’t want to do that, they have no business being given kids to adopt.

    Minoritarianism creates a culture of abuse against first things. Anything and everything is deformed and twisted to serve minorities.

    In fact, the most important thing a society needs to do is make sure normal people–i.e. the majority–are able and encouraged to do the necessary normal things: produce, survive and reproduce … ergo continuing the civilization.

    Any society that wants to survive must:
    a) defend against invasion
    and
    b) encourage productive, healthy, intelligent young men and women to get together, form families and reproduce.

    Anything/anyone working against those critical goals is cancerous garbage. Minoritarianism is an ideology of prioritizing the anti-normal; an ideology of national and civilization destruction.

    • Replies: @notsaying
  141. El Dato says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    We need much better sources than Twitter Bad G0y Productions.

    And much better analysis than a mystery building plan.

    • Replies: @HA
  142. El Dato says:
    @obwandiyag

    I guess that settles it then.

  143. @RichardTaylor

    “If they were acting rationally, they would’ve been pushing to radically slow population growth among the bottom 20% of the bell curve world wide.”

    How can the average citizen do anything about this?

    • Replies: @vhrm
  144. Anonymous[224] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I am going to to make this happen.

    An actual socially valuable use-case for blockchain? I’ll believe it when I see it.

  145. vhrm says:
    @Anonymous

    How are you defining your term “HBD differences”? (Yes, I know what the acronym stands for.)

    As is quoted in the article in the OP about Clark

    he argues that socio-economic status is genetically inherited through the “genetic transmission of … some mysterious mix of drive and ability”

    But I generally mean it in the standard American iSteve sort of way: avg differences in academic and economic attainment by people in the US when they are grouped by race is mostly explained by differences in socially relevant heritable traits between these same groups rather than by invidious racism perpetrated by whites. The main such variable I’m aware of is g-factor intelligence (measured by IQ), but there are possibly also others around grit and impulsivity.

  146. @AnotherDad

    Definitely, not the best way to recover from back surgery.

    Rumor is that Woods is in surgery with multiple fractures to both legs.

    If true, 19 majors are now well out of reach.

  147. Lot says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    “ Blockchain gives us the tools to do so.

    We need a DAO (decentralized autonomous organization) focusing on research into HBD, psychometrics, eugenics…”

    Wow, HBDsphere must be getting big if it now has its own Russian crypto affinity scam. Where do I wire my money to?

    • Thanks: MEH 0910
  148. vhrm says:
    @Frau Katze

    “If they were acting rationally, they would’ve been pushing to radically slow population growth among the bottom 20% of the bell curve world wide.”

    How can the average citizen do anything about this?

    some thoughts:

    -Push for education for girls.
    -free birth control (not just condoms, but longer term like the quarterly shots, implants, and IUDs)
    -abortion on demand
    -limit child based welfare and tax benefits

    -encourage your smart friends to stop putting off having kids until “maybe after I finish the PhD” (or get that raise / upgrade to a 5 bedroom)
    – encourage your shower friends that maybe 1 is enough.

    • Replies: @anon
  149. @Anon

    Yeah. You won. Congrats. Now leave it alone, you are just trolling.

  150. MEH 0910 says:
    @AnotherDad

    Tiger Woods’ interview from Round 4 at Genesis

    During the final round of The Genesis Invitational 2021, Tournament host, Tiger Woods, sits down with Jim Nantz to talk about his foundation, his health and his plans for the near future as he recovers from recent back surgery.

    The PGA TOUR returns to iconic Riviera Country Club for The Genesis Invitational. Tournament host Tiger Woods will be in attendance but won’t play as he is still recovering from a back procedure last month.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    , @Morton's toes
  151. Gwen says:
    @MEH 0910

    Odd that the vehicle in the still photo appears to be black (or dark gray) and the vehicle in the video is silver.

  152. @syonredux

    Epstein was a real-life pedophile.

    He sexually abused pre-pubescent children.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  153. @Alfa158

    The birth rate in China is even lower than for whites. Low in Japan and South Korea too.

    Singapore has the lowest rate in the world. The last time I checked, anyway. The Total Fertility Rate is around 1.

    The male-female balance is skewed because China permitted abortion of girls just because they were girls.

    A lot of men will never find a wife.

    I wouldn’t be so sure about genetic engineering. One doctor tried it…something to do with HIV. The doctor was roundly scolded.

    Lots of intermarriage here in Vancouver. Maybe they’ll be more fertile.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  154. anonymous[362] • Disclaimer says:
    @Forbes

    Having recommended buying after the Lehman collapse, the S&P 500 has more than doubled, despite the severe decline in the wake of Lehman from which markets have smartly recovered.

    What has been so “smart” about the markets’ recovery?

    • Replies: @Forbes
  155. @ic1000

    What’s the correlation between answer “C” and “total number of social sciences and humanities credit-hours”? About 0.6, I’d wager.

    Also with B.

  156. @kihowi

    Read the blog Vigilant Citizen.

    The blog documents extensive evidence of Satanic/Occult practices in elite circles. Especially in the entertainment industry.

    Very disturbing, but worth understanding.

    Stanley Kubrick’s 1999 film “Eyes Wide Shut” offered an interesting glimpse into this realm of the elites. The Satanic/Occult religious practices, debauchery, prostitution, blackmail, murder, and machinations of power. It’s worth watching his film if you want to understand the people who rule you.

    Here are a couple links to the blog.

    Here’s a picture of real-life Satanic Occultist Marina Abramovich (whose work is EXTREMELY popular in elite circles) with a Rothschild.

    For some reason, celebrities love her.

    they aren’t spiritual. It assumes that they accept a higher power than them that they need to worship and take seriously, presumably doing what His Satanic Majesty would want and not doing what he wouldn’t want. So, like a devout Christian, only different. I just can’t imagine them being like that, can you?

    There are many instances of Hollywood celebs being devoted to the Occult. Just look at Jay Z and Beyonce.

    Or Lady Gaga.

    Or Mariah Carey.

    Read the Vigilant Citizen blog. The blogger extensively documents how widespread these types of practices are among elites. Even lots of military/intel officers, prominent businessmen, and other elites like this stuff.

  157. @prime noticer

    Interesting idea that the slaves were those most easily caught. Could be…it would be a
    hard to tell, even if any researcher was permitted to attempt the task.

    I’m not advocating for Hispanic immigration but the history shows the deaths were closely tied to first, European diseases and then even worse, African diseases. Two mosquito borne African diseases (yellow fever and a virulent form of malaria) wiped out many coastal populations. (Europeans were susceptible to these too, thus it became more necessary than even to import Africans, who were not as badly affected).

    Notice how many native South Americans live at high altitude, where the mosquitoes that transmitted these diseases could not live.

    There were outbreaks even in the US south. There was also some type of hookworm in the US South that badly affected southern whites but not blacks. It largely affected poor whites, as it could be 100% prevented by wearing shoes outside.

  158. MEH 0910 says:
    @MEH 0910

    • Replies: @Mike_from_SGV
  159. @Frau Katze

    Singapore has the lowest rate in the world. The last time I checked, anyway. The Total Fertility Rate is around 1.

    Singapore is an known IQ/fertility shredder:

    https://www.isegoria.net/2014/07/iq-shredders/

  160. Deckin says:
    @Anon

    Just checking out her photos I wouldn’t be surprise if she’s got some indigenous Taiwanese ancestry. She’s not all Han, as much as she’s obsessed with it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anon
  161. Thea says:

    This morning Fuaci told Biden that 3 Brazilians had just died of Covid.

    Biden turned pale and passed out. After being given smelling salts he asked “ How many is in a Brazilian?”

    • LOL: Polistra
  162. Toad spotted.

  163. notsaying says:
    @AnotherDad

    How would you say minoritarianism played a role in this case?

    Farrow and Allen are both white, as were most of the lawmakers in Albany who voted to allow them to bypass New York City and/or New York State rules that prevented adults who lived apart to adopt children together.

    I would say this was a case where people were probably star-struck and approved a private bill for the rich and famous involving behavior they wouldn’t engage in themselves and would condemn if their neighbors did it.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  164. syonredux says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    “She is 2×8 years old

    What does that mean? Does that mean that she’s 16 (2×8= 16)?

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  165. syonredux says:
    @syonredux

    On a related note, I do hope that the people posting in the comments section are being good about their persec. I friend of mine (she was part of my grad school cohort) was recently informed that certain un-Woke pseudonymous postings have been traced to her, and the fallout was quite severe. English Depts being the equivalent of 1966 China, she knew that her academic career was effectively over (no shot at tenure, not even at some third-tier state uni). She’s currently prepping for the LSAT.

    • Replies: @vhrm
  166. Ed says:
    @Thoughts

    Have you been to the ghetto? There are churches everywhere.

  167. Ed says:
    @prime noticer

    The slave trade was so widespread and went on for so long that it would be impossible to say the slaves that were caught were from the lower strata of African societies.

  168. @syonredux

    Why not say 16?

    My guess is that it’s some pedophile way of saying 8 years old, but avoiding making it explicit. Just in case an investigator looks into this trafficking ring. Sort of how drug dealers use non-explicit terms (“China White”) instead of the actual names of their products. Steroids dealers like to use the term “riding a bike” to describe buying a cycle of steroids. Using unclear language makes it harder to prosecute.

    Some believe 2×8 means twins.

  169. @Travis

    The trend is for fewer white births but trends can also cause their own reversal.
    Wealthy people become soft and lose their money. People who’ve lost their money toughen up and get it back.
    A prosperous and free nation of whites, living fat and happy, stopped making babies. A poor and subjugated nation of whites may get serious again about a lot of things in life, including their family line.
    No reason to think a falling population won’t bounce back at some point.
    More deer = more cougars = fewer deer = fewer cougars = more deer.

    • Replies: @Travis
  170. @Anonymous

    That too.

  171. @Anon

    And that’s just how science works… in your dreams.

  172. @vhrm

    Christianity is probably a hindrance too: focusing on humility and on “were all equal on the eyes of God” and “the first will be last and the last will be first” type messaging, while good for some things, does NOT make it easy to say oh yeah those people are poorer because they’re just worse than those other people. Basically they’re cursed. Their kids will be too and there’s nothing we can do about it.

    No doubt many Christians fall into this trap, but it is not necessarily the Christian response to genetics. You can acknowledge that people who fail in life do so because of their genes, but still place value on their life.
    The Christian response wouldn’t be to write these people off. Instead you might rule them with a firm hand, for their own good, to help them make the best of life that they can with the poor genes that they have.
    If your own son turned out to be too stupid or careless to succeed in life, you would still strive mightily to help him make a go of it. Just look how the elder George Bush helped George W. get a job!

    • Agree: Bert
  173. anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    Do an image search for Mia Farrow if you want to know what “crazy eyes” looks like.

    Nah, who cares? Try these crazy eyes on for size. Do they matter more than some old Boomer has been actress?

    • Replies: @utu
  174. @Lot

    He was not Soon-Yi’s adoptive father, and he first had sex with her when she was 21. The age gap and how he met her are creepy but no indication of pedo inclinations.

    His marriage to Soon-Yi was the only normal thing about him or Mia. He wed an unrelated woman in one of the strictest of states. A strange thing to complain about, considering all their other activities.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
  175. Rob McX says:

    Think censorship has gone too far? There’s not nearly enough of it.

    David Cameron and Tony Blair want new law to ban ‘glorifying terrorism’ in bid to target Islamist extremists and far-Right groups

    Former Scotland Yard counter-terror chief Sir Mark Rowley, who helped draw up the report, said: ‘I have been shocked and horrified by the ghastliness and volume of hateful extremist materials and behaviour which is lawful in Britain.’

  176. Lot says:
    @unit472

    The more senior lines of Robertians/Capets in France are still wealthy after 1200 years, including the current King of Spain.

    Plenty of female and legitimate but collateral male lines have disappeared into the general population however.

    It is interesting that the original male line of Robert the Strong is still going strong after 1200 years, but the legitimate male English royal line failed multiple times. William the Conqueror had 3 legitimate sons but only one legitimate grandson who died at 17.

  177. @Reg Cæsar

    Tangentially on-topic– Kristof implies that Lysenko might have been right about something:

    What Are Sperm Telling Us?

    Isn’t Kristoff the guy who went after a popular porn video site a few months back? I hope that I’m wrong about that…

    Everyone should check out the Medvedev brothers’ book The Rise and Fall of T. D. Lysenko.

    “The zygote is not stupid.” That’s my favorite Lysenko line. Very catchy!

    First discovered the Bros. Medvedev Nuclear Disaster in the Urals while wandering through the stacks of a good library in the very early eighties.

    Nuclear Disaster in the Urals was really something. It’s been over 40 years, but that book was at the very least thought-provoking.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  178. anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @vhrm

    – encourage your shower friends that maybe 1 is enough.

    I don’t have any shower friends. What should I do?

  179. gregor says:

    Clark’s work seems to conflict with the Bell Curve on at least one point. The Bell Curve is all about the 20th century and the key idea is that there has been a great cognitive sorting in the last few generations and this is leading to increasing cognitive stratification. Under the Bell Curve model, in the 19th century, we had a lot of sharp minds lurking in the lower strata of society and a lot of doltish idle rich in the upper classes. But then came the great sorting. Clark’s model seems somewhat different in that he suggests cognitive stratification has been around for much longer.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  180. @Deckin

    Woody Allen is one of those rare individuals who has aged incredibly well simply because he always looked old. Can you think of anyone who has this little variance in physiognomy over the span of decades?

    Dorian Gray?

  181. @JohnnyWalker123

    The “documentary” is a crock of shit.

  182. syonredux says:
    @Deckin

    Woody Allen is one of those rare individuals who has aged incredibly well simply because he always looked old. Can you think of anyone who has this little variance in physiognomy over the span of decades?

    Willie Nelson is the classic example. Guy has looked like a septuagenarian for the last 40 years.

  183. @MEH 0910

    I thought this might be something juicy like he was stoned, or being chased by his girlfriend’s husband, but no it seems to be run of the mill bad judgment, speeding on an unfamiliar road.

  184. @Reg Cæsar

    The marriage to Soon-Yi was the most normal thing about that relationship but by the time he was with Farrow, he’d become pretty weird, which was the one thing they had in common.

    But Allen started out pretty normal. He married Harlene Rosen when he was 20 and she was 17; then Louise Lasser a bit later on. There was nothing weird about those marriages. He’s always had regular tastes otherwise: basketball, baseball, and jazz.

    He began to develop a taste for younger flesh later on but that’s nothing out of the ordinary for successful show biz guys. As Errol Flynn said, “I like my Scotch aged and my girls young.”

    About these allegations, I’d be here the entire night trying to refute them, so I’ll just leave some links, for those who care. Basically: they are bollocks.

    Mia Farrow is weird. Among the many weirdest things she did was subject Ronan (Satchel, Seamus, whatever) to a series of “barbaric” (in Woody’s words) leg-lengthening operations. Then they covered it up and said that the reason Ronan had been in a wheelchair for the better part of four years was because he’d contracted an infection do-gooding in Sudan.

    I don’t believe anything she says. Not a word.

    https://www.showbiz411.com/2020/03/23/exclusive-woody-allen-says-in-his-memoir-that-he-believes-he-not-sinatra-is-ronan-farrows-dad-claims-mia-farrow-had-childs-legs-broken-to-make-him-taller

    Moses Farrow speaks out:

    http://mosesfarrow.blogspot.com/2018/05/a-son-speaks-out-by-moses-farrow.html

    Robert Weide:

    https://ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/2019/04/08/the-truth-about-woody-allen-part-i/

    Robert Worley’s YouTube Videos:

    A devastating series on Showbiz 411:

    https://www.showbiz411.com/?s=Mia+Farrow

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
  185. Roger says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Here is what I got out of the trailer.

    Mia: “It doesn’t matter what’s true. What matters is what’s believed.”

    She somehow got a lot of people to believe an implausible story.

  186. Steve Sailer:

    “Hopefully, Clark is now working on a book about the terrible toll that senility takes on IQ: The Old Man and the g.”

    There is actually neglegible decrease in “g” in old age, even among octogenarians and nonagenarians, baring neurogenerative diseases like Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s.

    What declines significantly with age is speed of mental processing. But that is not the same as intelligence. Intelligence is the ability to deal with *complexity* . In youths, speed of mental processing correlates very strongly with the degree of complexity of the concept the youth can grasp, and of the logical problems that he can solve. But speed becomes less and less important with age, as the brain reinforces the most efficient dendrites, which allows the brain to process more information with less speed.

    IQ tests show massive declines of intelligence from youth to old age, of as much as 40 points between ages 25 and 85, But that is because IQ tests overemphasize the speed of mental resolution of very simple problems.

    But when you give the old man unlimited time to solve the IQ test, he scores between 7 to 17 points lower than he did at age 25, with an average decline of about 13 IQ points, and not 40 like the time-limited test suggests. That is, the decline is only about a third to one quarter of what IQ tests predict.

    But isn’t this cheating? No, and here is why. If you give a youth of average intelligence an IQ test and unlimited time to solve it, he will score around 100 juat as if the test were time-limited. If you give an octogenarian that used to have an IQ of 140 as youth a time-tested IQ test, he will score around 100 just like the average youth. *However* , if you give the old man unlimited time to solve the IQ test, unlike the youth of average intelligence that will score 100 regardless of the amount of time you give him to solve the test, the old man will score between 123 and 130. Speed strongly correlates with intelligence in youths, but the correlation declines with age and by old age speed is only weakly correlated with intelligence.

    It has been suggested that “IQ” declines at the rate of one point per year starting at age 25, while “intelligence” declines at the rate of one point every 3 years starting at ages 35-40. “IQ” which is a measure of speed of mental processing, peaks in the early twenties between ages 20 and 25, while “intelligence”, which is a purer measure of cognitive power, peaks in the middle to late thirties between ages 35 and 40.

    • Thanks: vhrm
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  187. @Anon

    The one member of the family with professional education and expertise sides with Dad:

    Moses Farrow: ‘I’d be very happy to take my father’s surname’

    Allen, or Kaliningrad Konigsberg?

    Whoever’s right, Moses makes good points about adoption in general, particularly interracial adoption.

    • Replies: @Curle
  188. @gregor

    Herrnstein, the senior author of The Bell Curve, wrote in The Atlantic in 1971 about how social mobility, especially standard testing, was introducing a new level of social and geographic mobility while leading to like-marrying-like more on the IQ angle.

    Clark has found little social mobility down through English history.

    As a compromise, I suspect Herrnstein was focused on the arrival of large numbers of Jews into America around 1900 such as his immigrant father, a house painter compared to his son, a Harvard professor with a chair. But Herrnstein tried to universalize this rather historically unique event of a huge number of 3 digit IQs migrating in a short time, and overlooked of Anglo-American society tended to stratify maritally due to romantic matches.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  189. Polistra says:
    @Anon

    Third-world people moving into your neighborhood are almost as bad as….

    Actually, third-world people moving into your country.

  190. J.Ross says:
    @Anon

    Holy police kindly returning Hunter Biden’s child porn without asking questions, vigilanteperson! The cop at the scene blithely announced that alcohol wasn’t a factor and therefore there was no need to give Tiger a test. I guess those tests aren’t mandatory, not even in the event of a major accident. I’m all for privilege and corruption but in this case celebrity indulgence might get this guy killed.

  191. Polistra says:
    @kaganovitch

    Ghislaine, of course. Remember Angelica Huston in ‘Crimes and Misdemeanors’? Well, you only thought that was Angelica Huston.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  192. Polistra says:
    @mikemikev

    But what the Germans tried was to elevate humanity, by eugenics and other means. What we’re going to do in this century is diminish humanity, by genocide and other means. It’ll be fun!

  193. @Spangel12

    It’s only the bottom sixth or so that brings violence, destruction and chaos wherever they go.

    The rest just spit in your food. Examine those ribs carefully.

  194. @Steve Sailer

    …his immigrant father, a house painter compared to his son, a Harvard professor with a chair.

    Yes, it’s much easier to paint houses if you have a chair to stand on. A ladder is even better.

    • Replies: @Polistra
  195. Curle says:
    @Sean

    Failing to see your point in citing to an criticism from Rahzib Khan where time has proven Khan to be wrong and Clark correct on the matter under consideration by Khan.

  196. Anonymous[399] • Disclaimer says:
    @Deckin

    Just checking out her photos I wouldn’t be surprise if she’s got some indigenous Taiwanese ancestry. She’s not all Han, as much as she’s obsessed with it.

    Didn’t the Han exterminate the indigenous Taiwanese?

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
  197. Curle says:
    @Morton's toes

    Let em go find their own orgasms.

    It’s always about the girls isn’t it?

  198. HA says:
    @El Dato

    “We need much better sources than Twitter Bad G0y Productions.”

    If anyone is genuinely interested, the Wikipedia account (note if you mention Wikipedia to pizzagate true believers it will make their eyeballs burst and their and ears bleed, especially if you point out that it actually makes for a far more convincing account than whatever oddly selective pay-no-attention-to-that-man-behind-the-curtain reports their tweets and facebook groups are serving up) takes note not only of the dig performed by the investigators that the parents of the allegedly victimized children hired (who — surprise, surprise — gave them results very much like what they were hoping for) but also the subsequent digs which couldn’t make any connection between what was found there (old rubbish pits and decades-old sewer lines) and the accused or anything else that would corroborate the children’s story.

    [MORE]

    I.e., the dig confirmed zip. That Chuck Norris is one sneaky fella, apparently. Plus, as noted there, one of the “abused” children has since openly admitted that absolutely nothing was done to him, which is surprising, given that children subjected to these show-me-where-he-touched-you-if-you-ever-want-this-interrogation-to-be-over routines typically wind up sincerely believing they were actually abused (and the mental scars from that are real enough, however impossibly supernatural the stories themselves were).

    The FBI report does make mention of the initial dig arranged by the parents — i.e. includes a copy of two pages of their report, but as far as I can tell provides absolutely no context that, other than being a part of a dump of documents related to what was going on at the time the Finders were being investigated (around Nov ’93-Feb ’94), whereas the digs that dismissed the findings took place afterwards, and so they weren’t included. Since nothing much came of the Finders investigation — as is the case with most of these pedophilia rings, sadly — so there wasn’t much followup. A subsequent addendum from ’96 (p. 15) refers to all this as “miscellaneous documents” that “meets criteria for destruction”.

    So make of that what you will, but I doubt the Clintons or the Podestas are shaking in their boots over any of that.

    • Replies: @Polistra
  199. @Sean

    I’m sorry, what does David Haig have to do with Gregory Clark? Not following where that post went.

    • Replies: @Sean
  200. Polistra says:
    @vhrm

    I am not aware of a single person who went to college undergrad for the purpose of grappling with big humanities type ideas though certainly such ideas did show up sometimes and we grapes with them occasionally mostly inadvertently or for fun.

    A couple of the colleges I attended were full of such people. It does happen–even today–but it certainly doesn’t happen everywhere. I don’t understand the ‘grapes’ reference.

    • Replies: @vhrm
  201. Anon7 says:

    OT: After two more Highway shootings in Detroit yesterday, a clued-in Detroit pastor said that so many traffic intersections, gas stations, bars and convenience stores had cameras that were directly accessed by the Detroit police department that the new place to carry out targeted shootings is “down below”, a reference to Detroit’s sunken freeways.

  202. @notsaying

    Notsaying, i wasn’t specifically driving this case (which is not that interesting). Rather running with your point about “first principles”.

    But i think you answered your question yourself at the end.

    In a healthy culture–i.e. non-minoritarian–letting a BPD loon like Mia Farrow collect a menagerie of orphans as her “children” would be unseemly and unlikely to happen. (Ok, maybe if she was queen or something.) Minoritarianism enables perverts and freaks … “who are we to judge?”, “there are many kinds of families”, “love is love”. Pure minoritarian garbage.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  203. @Polistra

    You know, it’s been bothering me for months that she looks like someone relatively famous and i couldn’t put my finger on it. Angelica Huston! Thanks.

  204. Dan Hayes says:
    @Anonymous

    Not quite. The Han literally drove the indigenous remnant up into the Taiwanese hills!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  205. @Polistra

    I believe that genetics is important. But the climate of controversy has shifted. It is no longer important who’s more intelligent, or which arguments are persuasive. Morality is paramount. Who did you hurt? Say their names! Did you know that you hurt them? Why not! Apologize profusely, sign this recanter, or realize the consequence.

  206. Sean says:
    @Unladen Swallow

    Apart from the point that book titles ought to be upbeat and not fateful sounding if one is going to to touch on the influence of genetics, one prof is Australian and the other British-Irish so wanderlust in the family tree, and they are both now at American universities. Clark talks a lot about selective migration of those with education and talent.

    Haig talks about genomic conflict in the way the mother tries to limit the resources going to the placenta, though her genes are going to want the child to be successful as a vehicle for them. I suppose I was drawing a parallel with that and the way social science academia is ambivalent about nurturing theories of genetically determined destiny.

  207. @ScarletNumber

    “The sun was hot and painful and the man at the bar was swearing as he read the book. It was the kind of book a man would read if he liked to drink and think the true think.
    “This is a good book,” said the man.
    “It has a lot of pages,” I agreed.
    He looked at me. “Scotch?”
    “Scottish,” I said. “I’m attending the Nick Adams Smith seminar in Glasgow.”

    From the intro to Clark’s book about alcohol and intelligence, “Big Two-hearted Liver” . . .

  208. Lurker says:
    @unit472

    I am aware are of the Garibaldis who run Monaco

    Grimaldi family.

  209. Polistra says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yeah but with a ladder you’re more likely to bump into the Glass Ceiling.

  210. Polistra says:
    @HA

    children subjected to these show-me-where-he-touched-you-if-you-ever-want-this-interrogation-to-be-over routines typically wind up sincerely believing they were actually abused (and the mental scars from that are real enough

    Suddenly I’m sensing a parallel with the women-and-minorities retconning phenomenon whereby you’re nobody unless you have a horror (“Personal Story”) to relate. And so many are invented, and many of them end up being believed.

    Unlike the McMartin stories, these others have morphed into a State Religion.

    • Replies: @HA
  211. Lurker says:
    @Picocentral

    Dogman: Catch 22 Sticks
    Dogman: Veterinarian Revisted
    Dogman: There Will be Bloodhounds

  212. Travis says:
    @rebel yell

    The low fertility of whites is just one part of the problem. White female fertility appears to be ~1.7, but 10% of their babies are non-white. So the actual white fertility is now close to 1.5. It takes two whites to make a white baby, but just one non-white to make a non-white baby. hard to see how whites will recover from another decade of such low fertility rates and miscegenation.

    a reversal of the decline in the number of whites being born gets more difficult each years, since their are fewer and fewer fertile white females. Back in 1990 there were 32 million fertile white females between the ages of 20-40 and today just 20 million fertile white females between the ages of 20-40. So even an increase in fertility back to 2.1 will not reverse the demographic decline, there are not enough fertile white females and each year there are less and less. The number of fertile white females has declined by 38% since 1990. This is the biggest factor in demographics. While the white population has remained stagnant since 2000 , the number of white fertile females has declined 20% since 2000. There are not enough white fertile females to reverse the decline in the white population, even if they increase their fertility back to 2.2 , levels of fertility we have not had since 1966 when mixed raced marriages were very rare. We would need white fertility to reach 2.5 to stabilize the white population over the next decade. Yet with the current poor economy combined with high housing costs we expect white fertility to decline further over the next decade and the white population to decline below 190 million by 2030 as the US population grows to 345 million people.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
  213. HA says:
    @Polistra

    “Suddenly I’m sensing a parallel with the women-and-minorities retconning phenomenon…”

    Yes, there’s a definite connection. This was right about the time the free-love radicals like Michel Foucault and Alan Ginsburg (pedophilia enthusiasts, both), who like most self-styled forward-thinkers thought the only real sex crime was being judgmental, were losing sway to Andrea Dworkin/Catharine MacKinnon radicals who suspected that every sexual encounter was rape, and of course, they’re still ruling the roost. The latter’s accession to power ushered in a wave of repressed-memory and facilitated-communication over-reach. If you couldn’t bring yourself to remember how daddy raped you, well, you yourself were just perpetuating the cycle of abuse, and why would you want to do that? The child-care Satanic panic was basically made to order.

    [MORE]

    I’m not saying things were better back in the days of Foucault, when psychologists assured us that the trauma of “consensual” sex between adults and children was merely a “social construct” derived from the hangups that sexually repressed lumpenproles attached to it, so that if no one raise a fuss, the child would suffer no lasting ill effects. That kind of thinking (along with the disastrous belief that pedophiles could be safely rehabilitated which lasted as late as the 90’s) explains why so many churches, not just Catholics, decided to hush up the abuse, send a predator to rehab and mark him as “cured”, and then unleash him on a fresh set of victims. I mean corrupt bureaucrats are already inclined to simply bury the bodies, but back then, this is pretty much what the experts were advising was actually in the best interest of the child.

    Of course, some day the Dworkinites will themselves be overthrown. Foucault is still revered by trans advocates (with little in the way of apology regarding his endorsement of pedophilia), so maybe he’ll be rehabilitated himself, or maybe some other set of radicals will unseat them. But when it happens, the pedophiles — who are relentless in pursuing their fixations — will probably again be given free rein. Sadly, people only seem to care about child rape when they can use it as a stick to beat their enemies with — be it the patriarchy or the Catholics or the Clintons or the Jews/Rothschilds or the Illuminati or whatever. The only ones who consistently care about it seem to be pedophiles, and of course, they care for all the wrong self-serving reasons. In the Ginsburg/Foucault era, when intellectuals were claiming that age-of-consent laws violated a child’s “right” to have sex with adults, German authorities were purposely placing foster children with pedophiles because they said pedophiles would by their very nature be extra-devoted parental figures. Don’t tell me a pedophile didn’t come up with that policy. Same goes for the notion that child rape would cause no lasting damage to a child if the courts and the press just kept quiet about it. And like I said, this was what passed for “expert opinion” for decades.

    • Thanks: ic1000
  214. utu says:
    @anon

    Sanpaku eyes.

    “Conversely, when the upper sclera is visible it is said to be an indication of mental imbalance in people such as psychotics, murderers, and anyone rageful.” – wiki

    • Replies: @Bert
    , @Curle
  215. @Travis

    Nonwhite women have a way higher rate of interracial births, so it doesn’t matter. Dummy.

    • Replies: @Travis
  216. @Alan Mercer

    great movie except for the last 10 “white savior” minutes

  217. vhrm says:
    @syonredux

    English Depts being the equivalent of 1966 China, she knew that her academic career was effectively over (no shot at tenure, not even at some third-tier state uni). She’s currently prepping for the LSAT.

    “knew” how?
    how did it even come up ? did someone confront her with them? did they prove it was her? did anyone ask her? did she admit it ?
    As we’ve seen any apologizing or backing down is met with destruction.

    OTOH, i think maybe it’s easy to be too afraid of this stuff too. More power to her if she wants to go to law school, but she shouldn’t kill her own career out of fear that someone else might and actually force those people to act. (unless they are blackmailing her with something so that going away quietly makes sense)

  218. vhrm says:
    @Polistra

    I don’t understand the ‘grapes’ reference

    Sorry, “grapes” is what my phone came up with when i tried to swype “grappled” and i didn’t notice until it was too late. This is the major source of malapropisms in my posts here. idk why i ever post from my phone… it takes much longer and it’s also often full of mistakes.

  219. @Rockford Tyson

    that being said, the ability to draw a portrait, or to write a line of eternal prose, or to perfect the performance of a piece of music grows with every year —- absent sickness or excessive indulgence in the pleasures of the flesh.

    “being tested by the sort of people who are interested in testing intelligence” or “contributing another kludge to the kludge-ridden universe of mathematical science” are things that are more difficult over the years, of course, for obvious reasons.

  220. @Kibernetika

    But is endocrine disruption Lamarckian? Your plastic water bottle curses seven generations?

    Trofim looked like Adolf clean-shaven.

    • Replies: @Kibernetika
  221. @Anonymous

    That’s mostly the neighbors in the Netherlands who say Wim, and people neighboring them on the lower Rhine, Anonymous 375.

    But Wim is Althochdeutsch – the German before medieval times – so: Really old and means the strong-willed . – – so you have this upside-down here – Wilhelm is the rather less heroic version because it stands for the strong-willed man – with a helmet. The really tough guys did not bother with such rather distracting devices. – Who needs a helmet, if he can kill his enemy right away without one?

    • Thanks: Kibernetika
    • Replies: @Kibernetika
  222. @Paperback Writer

    PS The people who made this “documentary” are the same ones who made “The Hunting Ground.” Nuff said.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/here-they-come-again/

  223. Anon[130] • Disclaimer says:
    @Deckin

    She’s not all Han

    You’re right. There’s definitely something fishy going on. She looks more half European than half indigenous Taiwanese. She didn’t mention dad, only mom. I wonder …

    I would love to microaggress her with “Where are you from … no really, where are you really from? You don’t look all Chinese.”

  224. Bert says:
    @utu

    Sanpaku eyes. Can be used to thwart a violent attack. It’s useful to have practiced beforehand, and simulation is enhanced by tilting one’s head back.

  225. Anonymous[411] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    This sounds like that Michael Jackson documentary a couple of years ago which claimed he was a pedo, but presented no actual evidence, just allegations from two proven liars. It was all over the news for a couple of days and was then forgotten.

  226. @AnotherDad

    I don’t know. Just:

    * you can change many traits of your children, while still knowing very well they are yours & cherishing them. Especially undesirable traits- say, eliminating schizophrenia; also, cosmetic surgery doesn’t alter one’s attachment to their children

    * blacks like to swagger around about liking being black, but this is a big fat lie. Just look at what Michael Jackson did to himself. If possible, all blacks would become a slightly modified whites.

    What is realistically possible/probable & what not- I don’t know.

  227. Travis says:
    @JohnPlywood

    it does matter, since non-white females cannot have white babies, even if the father is white the children will be non-white. Thus it is impossible for people like Halle Berry to have a white baby. Yet a white women can have non-white children. The opposite is not possible.

    While It is not possible for Black women to have a white child, It is possible for a white woman to have a Black child, just ask Barrack Obama.

    if 10% of white women mate with non-whites these children will not be white. Thus white fertility is misleading , since white females can have non-white children. Yet Black fertility is not misleading, since 100% of their children are Black. About 90% of the children of white females are actually white, but this reduces white fertility by 10% compared to the stated white fertility of 1.7

    thus if the 10 million White females aged 20-29 have a fertility of 1.7 they will have 17 million babies but just 15 million of them will be white if 10% of the fathers are non-white, thus the white fertility is actually 1.5 and not the reported 1.7.

    while the 2 million Black females aged 20-29 have a fertility of 2 and will have 4 million Black babies. All of their babies will be Black , even if some of the fathers are white.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
  228. @AnotherDad

    “letting a BPD loon like Mia Farrow collect a menagerie of orphans as her “children” would be unseemly and unlikely to happen”

    Three of them have died before 36, allegedly from overdose, effects of addiction, and suicide. Orphans may well be from troubled backgrounds but that still seems high, though some adopters go for the children that no one else will take, who tend to be the most disturbed.

  229. @MEH 0910

    The sponsor of the tournament is the auto manufacturer of the car that Tiger totaled in a one vehicle accident in daylight in ideal weather. On a divided four lane road.

    And some tool of a writer has a story about the advanced safety features of the car saved his life. This is a classic Dave Barry you cannot make this stuff up.

    What we need is a transcript of the marketing manager at Hyundai giving the news to his bosses about how they paid Tiger 2 million (I am very curious to the exact number here to the penny) to endorse their product and he damn near kills himself with it.

    Also: is this one of those vehicles with the snoop feature where it records the vehicle’s location and speed. Maybe he was blasting down the 45 mph speed-limit-road at 70 mph? I looked at the road on google street view; it is a wide divided four lane road.

    Let’s race all the way to Dead Man’s Curve.

  230. @JohnnyWalker123

    I don’t think Allen was a pedo in the true sense of the word, attraction to the biologically sexually immature. Females are attracted to strength, be it physical, intellectual, or financial. It’s a good proxy for genetic fitness. Males are attracted to prime fertility in women, which just happens to start in the teenage years, well under 18.

    It is a strange world we live in that can call gender dysphoria healthy and normal, but the age old attraction of ordinary men to young women as something sickening and wrong.

  231. MEH 0910 says:


    [MORE]

  232. MEH 0910 says:
    @Morton's toes

  233. @Morton's toes

    I looked at the road on google street view; it is a wide divided four lane road.

    Yes — I’ve seen several reports of the accident that assert it happened on a ‘two-lane road’, making it sound as if it was some narrow, twisting, difficult-to-drive mountain track. In reality it’s a big, divided, four-lane thoroughfare. I guess they mean ‘two lanes going in the same direction’, but that is not my definition of a two-lane road.

    If you can’t manage to keep your vehicle off the median on this type of American road — which by world standards have very wide and forgiving lanes — you’ve made a gross driving error.

  234. @Reg Cæsar

    But is endocrine disruption Lamarckian? Your plastic water bottle curses seven generations?

    Trofim looked like Adolf clean-shaven.

    Heh! I’m in no way qualified to offer an opinion on that, but do any studies follow up on military cohorts that used crappy “softened” plastics for canteens, mess kits? Or aluminum or steel. Or tin with lead soldering. It would be interesting to try and map use of kit to downstream ill effects.

    Worst military canteen that I’ve seen? Gotta be the later East German models. Would love to do an analysis of that plastic. Even I wouldn’t drink out of that crap.

    Nalgene’s got a US-style canteen that’s nice.

  235. @Dieter Kief

    That’s mostly the neighbors in the Netherlands who say Wim, and people neighboring them on the lower Rhine, Anonymous 375.

    Aha, so Wim is something of a diminutive. The only “Wim” that I could recall was Wim Wenders and he is from Düsseldorf (Lisbon Story is a great film, BTW).

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  236. Anonymous[940] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Hayes

    Not quite. The Han literally drove the indigenous remnant up into the Taiwanese hills!

    Did they kill any of the indigenous?

  237. Curle says:
    @utu

    “ when the upper sclera is visible it is said to be an indication of mental imbalance in people such as . . .”

    Wild sex maniacs.

  238. @Kibernetika

    Ah – I’d not say diminutive. Wim is an original name for a man of strong will with a strong (=fighting/courageous) mind. – And the helmet as in WilHELM came later – ccenturies at least later.
    Wim Toelke’s family had Lower Rhine roots too (Duisburg).

  239. @Travis

    Nonwhite females can have white babies. See:

    That’s all. Your entire post was based on a retarded assumption that a ~50% white woman like Halle Berry can’t have a white kid.

    The majority of interracial births are to Hispanic and Asian mothers. Their kids or grandkids are white.

  240. MEH 0910 says:

  241. Forbes says:
    @anonymous

    Try the adverb “smartly,” Mr. Snark…

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