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Harry Baldwin writes: “Unfortunately, great commenters come and go at iSteve. I keep a word file of some of the insights. The following was from “Drake,” posting on December 17, 2014:”

Liberalism is too sophisticated to just come out and say “whites are devils.” Instead it says lots of other things that indirectly add up to the same thing.

There are two ways racism can work. Let’s use a chess king on a chessboard as a metaphor. If you wanted to totally denigrate everything the chess piece does, you could point to it and call it the “n-word”. No matter what move the king makes, it’s still carries the n-word around, and is thereby stigmatized. (As Malcolm X said: even when a black man earns a Phd, he’s still just a n-word.) That’s how old-fashioned KKK racism works.

But liberal anti-white bigotry works differently. Instead of pointing to the king and calling it a nasty word, it exhaustively analyses every individual move the piece could make and declares each move to be sinister and evil. It’s moves up: that’s racist. It moves down: that’s white privilege. It moves left: that’s gentrification. It moves right: that’s white flight. It moves diagonal: that’s a microaggression, or cultural appropriation, or some other inane nonsense. It gets attacked by Muslims: its planning a racist backlash. And so on and so on, putting whites under a microscope, looking at every thought, word and act in the worst possible light, blaming them for every problem, or just making up slander (the tyranny part of anarcho-tyranny).

This is a lot more work than old fashioned racism, but liberalism has no shortage of intellectuals willing to do that work. And through it all they never come out and say “Whites are devils” but it all adds up to the same thing.

 
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  1. Love the Drake

    • LOL: Cool Daddy Jimbo
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldlan
    @Danindc

    What a relief! I thought Drake the rapper had gone screwy!😮

    , @Corvinus
    @Danindc

    Indeed, in Bizarro Jerry World.

    Conservatism is too sophisticated to just come out and say “anti-whites are devils.” Instead it says lots of other things that indirectly add up to the same thing.

    There are two ways that this can work. Let’s use a chess king on a chessboard as a metaphor. If you wanted to totally denigrate everything the chess piece does, you could point to it and call it a "race traitor”. No matter what move the king makes, it’s still carries that designation around, and is thereby stigmatized.

    But conservative pro-white bigotry works differently. Instead of pointing to the king and calling it a nasty word, it exhaustively analyses every individual move the piece could make and declares each move to be sinister and evil. It’s moves up: that’s anti-white. It moves down: that’s racial suicide. It moves left: that’s Jewish machinations. It moves right: that’s globohomo . It moves diagonal: that’s miscegenation or some other nonsense. It makes friends with blacks: it's ruining America's future. And so on and so on, putting Normie Whites--who simply are making their own decisions about race and culture--under a microscope, looking at every thought, word and act in the worst possible light, blaming them for every problem, or just making up slander (the tyranny part of Christofascism).

    This is a lot more work than old fashioned anti-whitish, but conservatism has no shortage of intellectuals willing to do that work. And through it all they never come out and say "Anti-whites are devils” but it all adds up to the same thing.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @John Johnson

  2. Since the white elite majority in the Western world is by and large leaning atheist, it is very ironic, that whites appear as the devil in this – – self created! – context.

    It almost looks as if doing away with religion does not mean to get rid of the religious basics (light & dark, good & evil, the heavens above & hell down below… (the religious evergreens (the archetypes of human existence)).
    See Johann Wolfgang von Goethe’s ballad Sorcerer’s Apprentice – and his play Faust (I & II). Goethe says in Faust, that the devil is on the scene, as soon as the modern world enrolls. Because the multitude of wonders of social and scientific progress has a – logical, so to speak – dark side to it (this is the Sorcerer’s (= modern man’s…) unescapable dilemma. (Carl Gustav Jung’s psychology of the archetypes can be read as a Goethe-comment).

    • Replies: @Liger
    @Dieter Kief

    Bertrand Russell once argued that Marxism is basically a Christian heresy with History in the place of God, the proletatiat in the place of the elect, the bougeosie in the place of the reprobate, and a promised revolution
    instead of a second coming.

    American Wokeism is likewise a sort of mutilated Christless Christianity, one with a seemingly Calvinistic bent. Slavery is the Fall, systemic racism/white privilige is original sin, the elect are the woke and the various sacredotal castes, the reprobate are basically everyone else.

    Replies: @martin_2, @Reg Cæsar

    , @AnotherDad
    @Dieter Kief


    It almost looks as if doing away with religion does not mean to get rid of the religious basics (light & dark, good & evil, the heavens above & hell down below… (the religious evergreens (the archetypes of human existence)).
     
    Throw in your Chesterton quote or whatever. We've done the experiment and the results are clear.

    The scary thing is that because minoritarianism doesn't have wear a cross or have explicit priests or ministers it gets to be a state religion--which we are supposed to be protected against.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    , @John Johnson
    @Dieter Kief

    It almost looks as if doing away with religion does not mean to get rid of the religious basics (light & dark, good & evil, the heavens above & hell down below… (the religious evergreens (the archetypes of human existence)).

    No it certainly does not and when Whites leave Christianity 9 out 10 sign up for liberalism. That is based on polls and not speculation.

    Instead of the devil it's the Bad Whites that are causing the world's problems.

    I have had liberals tell me that abortion and gay marriage can't be opposed from a secular point of view. The Science(tm) has spoken and they didn't want to listen to any counter opinion. The irony is unreal.

    I even had a liberal tell me that all racial inequality in sports is caused by racism. He really believed that there would be more Japanese power forwards if more Japanese were encouraged to play basketball and special government programs were created for them.

    Most Whites can't handle secularism. I grudgingly had to face this harsh truth after being around secular Whites. I have talked to hundreds of them.

    Secular conservatives and Libertarians sign up for the religion of small government. You see Big Government is holding back the third world and that's why Mogadishu is a capitalist paradise.

    Very few Whites can deal with the possibility that race is tied to economic development and there is no divine equality for humans from God or nature. It's just too unfair for them and I would say that most racial realist Whites are actually egalitarians and Christian conservatives that support lying.

    Any anti-establishment movement will have to face an alliance of Whites from both right and left that know the truth and want to suppress it. Mainstream right and left have an unspoken agreement to castigate anyone that steps over the line.

  3. The best one I remember is how white Americans being so interested in the outcome of the Scottish independence referendum was racist because it was an expression of Eurocentrism. “Why are you so interested?!”

    I wish I could find it but typing in appropriate text strings just brings up things like an UnHerd article by an anti-Scottish independence person saying it would be illegitimate because Scots are racist. Which is, itself, a good example of this too.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Altai

    Somewhat OT but hilarious nevertheless:

    https://twitter.com/MFA_China/status/1557726862872576000

    This was not a satirical question. Chicoms really don't understand Western thinking any more than we understand theirs.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Pixo, @EddieSpaghetti, @EddieSpaghetti

  4. Anonymous[418] • Disclaimer says:

    Liberalism is too sophisticated to just come out and say

    Instead of pointing to the king and calling it a nasty word, it exhaustively analyses every individual move the piece could make and declares each move to be sinister and evil

    Another problem. No matter what anti-white venom is spewed by Jews, never ever mention the Jews but blame something else.

    So, it’s the ‘left’, the ‘far left’, the ‘communists’, the ‘cultural marxists’, the ‘globalists’, the ‘gestapo Democrats’, the ‘Chinese’, the ‘progressives’, the ‘deep state, the ‘woke’, etc.

    Or it’s ‘liberalism’.

  5. Most damage done to whites has been through passive-aggressive techniques. Like pushing white guilt. Getting anti-whites to admit their hostility is a major breakthrough.

    For example, some will say, “Oh, I’m not anti-white, I like white people, I am one”.

    In the next breath they say, “But, let’s not think of ourselves as a group, or speak of our racial interests in explicit terms … that’s just soooo tiresome”.

    That’s being passively-aggressive anti-white.

  6. Good God!

    We’ve got Steve on steroids!

    Firing away on all cylinders and new postings galore!

  7. They attack Satan, but want his stuff.

  8. Anonymous[145] • Disclaimer says:

    A comment this week by “Unintended Consequences” that would also be worth Steve’s turning it into a top-level post:

    Overcrowding, deracination, colonization for starters. This is mass, uncontrolled immigration which means we neither control quantity nor quality. Immigrants are competing with Americans for entry-level jobs and are given an unfair advantage because of AA policies. They often also bring undesirable cultural norms that then get forced on Americans. Values and priorities may be quite different as well. Eventually the foreigners become voters and will tend to vote to make the US over into their idea of what makes a good society (Arguably, how would people who had to abandon their Homeland know best but their first generation will get to wield influence. This is a more important reason to limit quantity than overcrowding.). Because of AA, White Americans are more likely to be pushed out of the job market than newcomers. Furthermore, your best-and-brightest are enriching themselves rather than benefitting Americans. There is a little talent in among the immigrant hordes but it’s nothing we can’t do without.

    Another issue is the constant altering of culture in order to avoid offending the newcomers. In large part this is because we are no longer assimilating immigrants. Instead elites dominating education and media are attempting to assimilate Whites to the cultural norms of foreigners. We have to change because one ethnic group or another has decided that immigrating to the US will benefit them and their families. So those of us long established are supposed be burdened with assisting in the transition of uninvited and unneeded newcomers. Further we are having to share everything with these immigrants: schools, neighborhoods, jobs. The sharing isn’t equal; We give up more. It’s also not all that voluntary even when it’s a question of lawful free-association or the right of an individual to hire whomever they choose.

    Mass immigration not only disrupts our society, it also diverts it’s development in largely undesirable ways: i.e., the incessant bickering over whether or not Asians are being discriminated against in elite college admissions to immigrants building high-density housing in the middle of sparsely populated rural areas (thereby potentially accelerating population growth exponentially while destroying the beauty of such places as well as their character). Even worse, the ratio of talent to the hordes of immigrants who are doing nothing but increasing the population and diluting our culture is very large. It’s also not something we’re allowed to discuss honestly.

    I’d say overall the only people who want to increase the amount of immigration are liberals expecting newcomers to vote for Democrats and those in the citizen population who have strong ties to other countries. Somehow, such people expect White Americans to continue having their opportunities reduced and their culture marginalized all for foreigners who feel entitled to partake of the benefits of residing in the US. It’s almost as if we’re a huge Salvation Army instead of a nation. I assert, however, that the US doesn’t exist to save a world of people from the effort necessary to create a good or great nation. Nor are we Easy Street for a foreign elite wanting to come here to get rich rather than making the necessary sacrifices to strengthen their own homelands. Enough is enough!

    • Agree: bomag
  9. such sour chardonnay… at least whites aren’t ignored. once whites are ignored, it’s at that time it’s really over.

  10. @Dieter Kief
    Since the white elite majority in the Western world is by and large leaning atheist, it is very ironic, that whites appear as the devil in this - - self created! - context.

    It almost looks as if doing away with religion does not mean to get rid of the religious basics (light & dark, good & evil, the heavens above & hell down below... (the religious evergreens (the archetypes of human existence)).
    See Johann Wolfgang von Goethe's ballad Sorcerer's Apprentice - and his play Faust (I & II). Goethe says in Faust, that the devil is on the scene, as soon as the modern world enrolls. Because the multitude of wonders of social and scientific progress has a - logical, so to speak - dark side to it (this is the Sorcerer's (= modern man's...) unescapable dilemma. (Carl Gustav Jung's psychology of the archetypes can be read as a Goethe-comment).

    Replies: @Liger, @AnotherDad, @John Johnson

    Bertrand Russell once argued that Marxism is basically a Christian heresy with History in the place of God, the proletatiat in the place of the elect, the bougeosie in the place of the reprobate, and a promised revolution
    instead of a second coming.

    American Wokeism is likewise a sort of mutilated Christless Christianity, one with a seemingly Calvinistic bent. Slavery is the Fall, systemic racism/white privilige is original sin, the elect are the woke and the various sacredotal castes, the reprobate are basically everyone else.

    • Replies: @martin_2
    @Liger

    Political ideology cannot replace religion because it doesn't offer any hope of an afterlife.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Liger


    Bertrand Russell once argued that Marxism is basically a Christian heresy with History in the place of God, the proletatiat in the place of the elect, the bougeosie in the place of the reprobate, and a promised revolution
    instead of a second coming.
     
    Mario Pei argued that everything that sounded good from communists was already there in Christianity, and better.

    Replies: @JackOH

  11. Yeah, but let’s remember that the attack on Whites does not really benefit most non-Whites: I recommend Tom Wolfe’s brilliant little essay “Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers” to anyone who doubts this.

    Indeed, it actually hurts non-Whites by denying that they possess, to use the currently fashionable term, “agency.”

    So, cui bono? Of course, a few privileged non-Whites who are given sinecures to buy them off.

    But mainly the ruling White elite, who use the whole con game to turn Americans against each other so as to perpetuate the rule of the elite.

    Divide et impera.

    • Thanks: Greta Handel
    • LOL: 3g4me
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @PhysicistDave


    Indeed, it actually hurts non-Whites by denying that they possess, to use the currently fashionable term, “agency.”
     
    That's the least of the problems created, in the long anyway. In a real non-White society, things will go to hell for everyone. I would think some of the people doing this attacking could understand that. The evil ones do. The stupid ones don't. Both of those are "who they are".
    , @scrivener3
    @PhysicistDave


    But mainly the ruling White elite, who use the whole con game to turn Americans against each other so as to perpetuate the rule of the elite.

     

    That's my theory. After the collapse of the USSR the security state was thrown in a dilemma: Why do we need them any more? Why do we need a CIA. No nation presents a credible military threat. Why do we need an FBI. I don't hear much about organized crime today. Why do we need an NSA and thousands of other departments, bureaus, quasi-police forces, Voice of America, etc.

    They tried to gin up the threat of Islamic radicalism, but that is more like low level crime. Mostly it is lone wolfs, not much can be done to prevent it other than harden targets - which we have been doing but which local government is capable of doing.

    The usefulness of global warming and systematic racism is obvious to me. Both require a large almost all powerful bureaucratic state to defeat. Think of how many whites would be terrorizing blacks with nooses and systemic abuse if not for the feds.

    So when you see another article about how minorities are imprisoned more than whites or that women doctors earn less than men doctors even when they are in private solo practice, it is simply the press sucking up to the powerful politicians and bureaucrats. They are saying "look how much we need your firm hand and leadership". Those articles never get spiked, forward the writer's career and flatter all the right people.

    , @Gamecock
    @PhysicistDave


    the attack on Whites does not really benefit most non-Whites
     
    They bite the hand that feeds them. Whites are paying for all this happy horseshit.

    When the Left finishes crushing whites, everybody dies.
    , @Moses
    @PhysicistDave


    Yeah, but let’s remember that the attack on Whites does not really benefit most non-Whites:
     
    Anti-White animus does not benefit non-Whites in the long run, but that's not the point. Sticking it to Whites is the point. Whites had the audacity to create advanced, orderly civilizations that Browns/Blacks are unable to create. Envy leads to hate sure as water seeks the lowest point.

    "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?"

    The only thing worse for a non-White than living in a rayciss America with bigoted Whites is not being able to immigrate to a rayciss America and live with bigoted Whites.

    If you want a picture of the future, imagine a non-White boot stamping on a White face – forever.

    It will get worse before it gets better...if it gets better.

    Replies: @anon, @PhysicistDave

  12. OT — Black corrections officers were precluded from duties which would have brought them near prisoner Derek Chauvin. Maybe it was to protect their sensibilities. Maybe it was to protect Chauvin. Anyway now a judge has ruled that it’s racial discrimination and they can try to get one and a half million dollars.
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/officers-color-barred-guarding-derek-chauvin-15-million/story?id=88239864

    • Replies: @I, Libertine
    @J.Ross

    Fine comment. But it wasn't OT.

  13. I thought this was his new album.

    • LOL: Kylie
  14. True dat, Drake. Thanks to Harry Baldwin, too, and Steve for reposting.

    There’s a witch’s brew that propels anti-White-ism. Black Supremacism, affirmative action, intellectual opportunism, our paralysis in the face of blatantly anti-White civil rights laws, etc.

    Rafael Lemkin, the guy who coined the term “genocide”, supposedly lost friends because of his increasingly expansive view of what constitutes genocide. Does Elvis on the Muzak in a Warsaw department store diminish unduly Polish culture?–that sort of thing. I’m not the greatest fan of the genocide concept.

    Still, I’m sort of on board with viewing the derogation of White Americans through the prism of White genocide, the lower rungs at least of those “ladders of genocide” things on NGO Web sites. I’m not too happy about that. But, I think White genocide, as a tentative working idea, recognizes clearly the disenfranchisement of Whites.

    Nicholas Stix has done fine work linking Jim Snow/White genocide America to Black Supremacism. That’s no mean achievement given Black Supremacism’s existence mostly as a widely shared and orally transmitted folk philosophy.

  15. Liberalism is too sophisticated to just come out and say “whites are devils.” Instead it says lots of other things that indirectly add up to the same thing.

    There are two ways racism can work. … you could point to it and call it the “n-word”. … That’s how old-fashioned KKK racism works.

    But liberal anti-white bigotry works differently.

    I don’t know if it is really that “liberalism is too sophisticated” just to come out and say “whites are devils”. I’m sure they would love to use “old-fashioned” KKK-style racism against whites and make “white” into a one-word slur, in the same way that that “nigger” is. And they have tried mightily to accomplish this, but it has never caught on beyond a few undergraduate malcontents.

    The problem for liberalism is that all of their imprecations about whites simply aren’t true. Whites do have faults, naivety and pathological altruism come to mind, but liberals don’t want those faults to end, so they don’t criticize them. Rather, liberals simply want to harm whites, so they criticize not faults but virtues. That is the the reason that liberal anti-white racism has to affect “sophistication” by “exhaustively analy[zing] every individual move … and declar[ing] each move to be sinister and evil.” Transmuting good to evil and evil to good takes effort, the effort for example of creating and promoting the nonsensical dialectic of Critical Race Theory. But, as Drake notes, liberals are up to the task, no matter how many lies and lives it takes.

    • Agree: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Almost Missouri


    If you wanted to totally denigrate everything the chess piece does, you could point to it and call it the “n-word”. No matter what move the king makes, it’s still carries the n-word around, and is thereby stigmatized. (As Malcolm X said: even when a black man earns a Phd, he’s still just a n-word.) That’s how old-fashioned KKK racism works.
     
    "Nigger" itself was not originally a slur, just colloquialized Latinic for skin color. There is no reason that whites couldn't equally be offended by being called "white" or "Blancos" or "blanc's" if the designation merited it, but other than a few liberals performatively disparaging whites, nobody really thinks that negatively about whites, so the designation doesn't carry any sting. Malcom X's observation that "even when a black man earns a PhD, he's still just a nigger" was unfortunately proven correct by sanctified black martyr Dr. Martin Luther King, who did indeed "earn" a PhD ... by plagiarism and ghostwriting, so yeah, "he's still just a nigger". But that's "Dr." King's fault, not the fault of the observer.

    Contra Drake, the "king" is not "stigmatized" by "carrying the n-word around". The king is stigmatized by his own actions. The n-word just categorizes those actions in a way that embarrasses him.* So what's the liberal solution? Improve the king's actions? Haha, hell no! De facto outlaw embarrassing him! Hell yes!

    P.S. Great thanks to Harry Baldwin for keeping a file of classic comments!

    ---------

    *The irony is that categorizing his actions as racial rather than personal is in fact letting him off the moral hook. It is saying in effect, "we can't blame you personally, after all, given the last thousand generations of your breeding we shouldn't really expect much different." It's the n-pass for blacks, like the p-pass for women. Instead of being offended when their actions are attributed to their race, blacks should be relieved: it's personal exculpation. And in fact, often they do feel relieved. But their lawyers and PR flacks know there's no advantage in letting you know.



    https://i.postimg.cc/9F3nWzGC/content-of-character.png

    https://i.postimg.cc/Df4Nk14x/MLK-Don-t-judge-skin-color.png

    Replies: @AndrewR

    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Almost Missouri


    The problem for liberalism is that all of their imprecations about whites simply aren’t true. Whites do have faults, naivety and pathological altruism come to mind, but liberals don’t want those faults to end, so they don’t criticize them. Rather, liberals simply want to harm whites, so they criticize not faults but virtues. That is the the reason that liberal anti-white racism has to affect “sophistication” by “exhaustively analy[zing] every individual move … and declar[ing] each move to be sinister and evil.” Transmuting good to evil and evil to good takes effort, the effort for example of creating and promoting the nonsensical dialectic of Critical Race Theory. But, as Drake notes, liberals are up to the task, no matter how many lies and lives it takes.
     
    I think the point that Drake is making is that the treatment whites receive is a lot like what a long term battered wife receives - anything she does is wrong and risks a blow up because the rules themselves are self-contradictory, so she's kept in a constant state of subservience and paralysis. Strict but internally-consistent rules would at least permit someone to comply with them and avoid the slap in the mouth. But the point isn't to get you to comply so much as to keep you in a state of paralysis where you can't get any wits about you to see what is actually happening to you. I think the point of this state of paralysis is for the enemy to preempt any countermeasures that could work until they've tipped demographics to the point that such countermeasures would no longer work.

    Replies: @Anon

  16. Anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:

    Amusing paragraph at the bottom of this article…


    The ‘traumatic experience’ of US monkeypox patients

    Public health experts have dragged their heels in explaining why this outbreak has affected mostly gay and bisexual men –

    Yeah, it is a real mystery why the lesions also cluster around the anus, mouth and penis of the afflicted.

  17. @PhysicistDave
    Yeah, but let's remember that the attack on Whites does not really benefit most non-Whites: I recommend Tom Wolfe's brilliant little essay "Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers" to anyone who doubts this.

    Indeed, it actually hurts non-Whites by denying that they possess, to use the currently fashionable term, "agency."

    So, cui bono? Of course, a few privileged non-Whites who are given sinecures to buy them off.

    But mainly the ruling White elite, who use the whole con game to turn Americans against each other so as to perpetuate the rule of the elite.

    Divide et impera.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @scrivener3, @Gamecock, @Moses

    Indeed, it actually hurts non-Whites by denying that they possess, to use the currently fashionable term, “agency.”

    That’s the least of the problems created, in the long anyway. In a real non-White society, things will go to hell for everyone. I would think some of the people doing this attacking could understand that. The evil ones do. The stupid ones don’t. Both of those are “who they are”.

  18. @Almost Missouri

    Liberalism is too sophisticated to just come out and say “whites are devils.” Instead it says lots of other things that indirectly add up to the same thing.

    There are two ways racism can work. ... you could point to it and call it the “n-word”. ... That’s how old-fashioned KKK racism works.

    But liberal anti-white bigotry works differently.
     

    I don't know if it is really that "liberalism is too sophisticated" just to come out and say "whites are devils". I'm sure they would love to use "old-fashioned" KKK-style racism against whites and make "white" into a one-word slur, in the same way that that "nigger" is. And they have tried mightily to accomplish this, but it has never caught on beyond a few undergraduate malcontents.

    The problem for liberalism is that all of their imprecations about whites simply aren't true. Whites do have faults, naivety and pathological altruism come to mind, but liberals don't want those faults to end, so they don't criticize them. Rather, liberals simply want to harm whites, so they criticize not faults but virtues. That is the the reason that liberal anti-white racism has to affect "sophistication" by "exhaustively analy[zing] every individual move ... and declar[ing] each move to be sinister and evil." Transmuting good to evil and evil to good takes effort, the effort for example of creating and promoting the nonsensical dialectic of Critical Race Theory. But, as Drake notes, liberals are up to the task, no matter how many lies and lives it takes.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    If you wanted to totally denigrate everything the chess piece does, you could point to it and call it the “n-word”. No matter what move the king makes, it’s still carries the n-word around, and is thereby stigmatized. (As Malcolm X said: even when a black man earns a Phd, he’s still just a n-word.) That’s how old-fashioned KKK racism works.

    “Nigger” itself was not originally a slur, just colloquialized Latinic for skin color. There is no reason that whites couldn’t equally be offended by being called “white” or “Blancos” or “blanc’s” if the designation merited it, but other than a few liberals performatively disparaging whites, nobody really thinks that negatively about whites, so the designation doesn’t carry any sting. Malcom X’s observation that “even when a black man earns a PhD, he’s still just a nigger” was unfortunately proven correct by sanctified black martyr Dr. Martin Luther King, who did indeed “earn” a PhD … by plagiarism and ghostwriting, so yeah, “he’s still just a nigger”. But that’s “Dr.” King’s fault, not the fault of the observer.

    Contra Drake, the “king” is not “stigmatized” by “carrying the n-word around”. The king is stigmatized by his own actions. The n-word just categorizes those actions in a way that embarrasses him.* So what’s the liberal solution? Improve the king’s actions? Haha, hell no! De facto outlaw embarrassing him! Hell yes!

    P.S. Great thanks to Harry Baldwin for keeping a file of classic comments!

    ———

    *The irony is that categorizing his actions as racial rather than personal is in fact letting him off the moral hook. It is saying in effect, “we can’t blame you personally, after all, given the last thousand generations of your breeding we shouldn’t really expect much different.” It’s the n-pass for blacks, like the p-pass for women. Instead of being offended when their actions are attributed to their race, blacks should be relieved: it’s personal exculpation. And in fact, often they do feel relieved. But their lawyers and PR flacks know there’s no advantage in letting you know.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Almost Missouri

    King's daughter certainly is of abysmal moral character. One strongly suspects her father would be a full on racial terrorist today if he hadn't been martyred.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/BerniceKing/status/1299340664409395202

    Replies: @Art Deco

  19. @Altai
    The best one I remember is how white Americans being so interested in the outcome of the Scottish independence referendum was racist because it was an expression of Eurocentrism. "Why are you so interested?!"

    I wish I could find it but typing in appropriate text strings just brings up things like an UnHerd article by an anti-Scottish independence person saying it would be illegitimate because Scots are racist. Which is, itself, a good example of this too.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Somewhat OT but hilarious nevertheless:

    This was not a satirical question. Chicoms really don’t understand Western thinking any more than we understand theirs.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Jack D


    Would the UK remain calm and show restraint if Scotland split itself from the UK?
     
    The fervid joy in England would preclude calmness, so the man has a point.
    , @Pixo
    @Jack D

    Ireland was ruled by the English far longer than Taiwan by the Mainland Chinese. Same for Calais.

    , @EddieSpaghetti
    @Jack D

    Your source's description of events is inadequate. As Arnaud Bertrand pointed out:


    "[Your source] forgot to mention the key point: if Scotland split itself off AND became a so-called "unsinkable aircraft carrier" for China (or Russia). Pretty sure England wouldn't be so calm and restrained about that..."
     

    Replies: @Jack D, @AnotherDad

    , @EddieSpaghetti
    @Jack D

    JackD wrote:


    "Chicoms really don’t understand Western thinking any more than we understand theirs."
     
    The Chinese understand the US perfectly. They know that the US wants to "re-Yeltsinize" Russia and then "Yeltsinize" China.
  20. Whites must be saints because the Devil would never take abuse for 60 years and counting from megalomania Jews, violent Blacks, scamming Browns, and various other ingrates, parasites, and rapists.

    • Disagree: Supply and Demand
  21. @Almost Missouri
    @Almost Missouri


    If you wanted to totally denigrate everything the chess piece does, you could point to it and call it the “n-word”. No matter what move the king makes, it’s still carries the n-word around, and is thereby stigmatized. (As Malcolm X said: even when a black man earns a Phd, he’s still just a n-word.) That’s how old-fashioned KKK racism works.
     
    "Nigger" itself was not originally a slur, just colloquialized Latinic for skin color. There is no reason that whites couldn't equally be offended by being called "white" or "Blancos" or "blanc's" if the designation merited it, but other than a few liberals performatively disparaging whites, nobody really thinks that negatively about whites, so the designation doesn't carry any sting. Malcom X's observation that "even when a black man earns a PhD, he's still just a nigger" was unfortunately proven correct by sanctified black martyr Dr. Martin Luther King, who did indeed "earn" a PhD ... by plagiarism and ghostwriting, so yeah, "he's still just a nigger". But that's "Dr." King's fault, not the fault of the observer.

    Contra Drake, the "king" is not "stigmatized" by "carrying the n-word around". The king is stigmatized by his own actions. The n-word just categorizes those actions in a way that embarrasses him.* So what's the liberal solution? Improve the king's actions? Haha, hell no! De facto outlaw embarrassing him! Hell yes!

    P.S. Great thanks to Harry Baldwin for keeping a file of classic comments!

    ---------

    *The irony is that categorizing his actions as racial rather than personal is in fact letting him off the moral hook. It is saying in effect, "we can't blame you personally, after all, given the last thousand generations of your breeding we shouldn't really expect much different." It's the n-pass for blacks, like the p-pass for women. Instead of being offended when their actions are attributed to their race, blacks should be relieved: it's personal exculpation. And in fact, often they do feel relieved. But their lawyers and PR flacks know there's no advantage in letting you know.



    https://i.postimg.cc/9F3nWzGC/content-of-character.png

    https://i.postimg.cc/Df4Nk14x/MLK-Don-t-judge-skin-color.png

    Replies: @AndrewR

    King’s daughter certainly is of abysmal moral character. One strongly suspects her father would be a full on racial terrorist today if he hadn’t been martyred.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/BerniceKing/status/1299340664409395202

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @AndrewR

    She's actually the only one of Coretta's brood that wasn't an embarrassment. She has other things to do with her life than be an 'activist' (she has degrees in divinity and law and has in the past been employed in the ministry and in law practice). She appears, as some people do, to be deteriorating intellectually as she ages.

    Another oddity about Coretta's brood: exceedingly low fertility. I think the four of them have produced one child to date. IIRC, Martin III is the only one whoever married. Martin III is as sorry-assed a character as you can imagine, though less weird and comical than is Dexter.

    One of ML King's shirt-tails is an independent thinker of sorts. She's inconvenient to the portside worldview, so her rather messy domestic life is public knowledge.

    Replies: @Barnard

  22. Since liberalism is for the most part white, the whites devils are just the working class and dirt farmers. They really hate the later due to them owning property. The white liberals use to hate the aristocracy due to owning all the property. Seems the educated whites are the liberals, and they are a jealous and petty lot. Liberalism is their replacement religion to channel their rage. They really aren’t that sophisticated when you think of their universities as cathedrals.

  23. Off topic:

    Steve

    You know that Olivia Newton John’s was Max Born’s granddaughter-right?…Max Born was one of the creators of Quantum Mechanics(Born’s Rule)…I don’t know if anyone has mentioned this yet in the comments….

    • Thanks: Malcolm X-Lax
    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Off topic…but weird….

    Can the Born Rule be used to predict if Olivia Newton John is in an entangled dead and alive state?…Or is it the other way around? No gd kets on my keyboard….Steve…where are the fucking kets?

  24. And through it all they never come out and say “Whites are devils” but it all adds up to the same thing.

    You will hear this as well when liberals talk about history. They will say, “Immigrants built America.” They will say this when even referring to the early founding stock of Americans. But they will never say, “Immigrants enslaved black people. Immigrants massacred indians.” When they say this they will switch over to saying white people enslaved blacks and massacred indians. But using words in this manner people will always associate the word “immigrant” with something positive and the word “white” with something negative.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  25. Guessing that Drake isn’t the same person as that singer.
    You may know of him from the cream pie photo released to demonstrate the power of the ticket givers in the business.
    Crude discipline, pour encourager les autres.

  26. That’s a stupid chess analogy. I’m guessing Drake was an old guy (60+) who thought his analogy was brilliant.

    Old people have nothing interesting to say because they have nothing interesting to think. They just regurgitate irrelevant knowledge or personal anecdotes or banal ideas because, well, what else do they have to try and be interesting??

    The sad part is they’re not even aware of it. They’re kind of like the old guy wearing a toupee or dying his hair, or like the faded beauty trying to look sexy again by wearing clothes appropriate to a teen. 🤮

    In society people start to become invisible by about the age of 50. They should just accept this fact and not be like the ghost desperate to make others aware of his presence by making noises. Just move on and don’t disturb the living, old people.

    Peace out ✌🏼

    • Replies: @D. K.
    @Dan Korbel

    "That’s a stupid chess analogy. I’m guessing Drake was an old guy (60+) who thought his analogy was brilliant.

    "Old people have nothing interesting to say because they have nothing interesting to think. They just regurgitate irrelevant knowledge or personal anecdotes or banal ideas because, well, what else do they have to try and be interesting??"

    Steve Sailer is already 60+ (b. 1958). So, why are you even here, youngster?

    Replies: @Unintended Consequence

    , @Luddite in Chief
    @Dan Korbel


    Peace out

     

    I think it is quite wonderful how you insult a bunch of older people, then end your post by saying "peace out."

    Very now, very 2022, and frankly, learning that you are not under 30 would stun me into shocked silence.

    I hope for your own sake that you become familiar with self-awareness well before you reach the age of 50, because the longer it takes for you to develop it, the more expensive it gets.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    , @Alden
    @Dan Korbel

    Old people those over 50 run this country. Presidents VPs senators congress critter’s judges at every level state assembly critter’s governors city councils county supervisors big city mayors. Most are 50 and over.

    , @throtler
    @Dan Korbel

    I suggest you watch the movie WILD IN THE STREETS.

  27. What is actually somewhat surprising is that whites voluntarily gave up their dominant position over blacks. The founding document of the U.S. included “all men are created equal”, whites fought a war to end slavery and then a hundred years later whites ended segregation. It’s unusual in history for an oppressor group to give up its privileged position but we did. Whites, at least compared to other racial groups, seem to have an innate sense of fairness, a willingness to treat others as equals, and a desire to replace coercion with voluntary relationships.

    I’m 66 and old enough to remember the end of segregation. I can remember as a child the eagerness of the adults to end segregation and treat blacks as equals. I also remember they became quite dismayed at the results. They found out the majority of blacks didn’t actually want to be equals. They wanted to exploit and victimize whites. There was a huge black crime wave following the end of segregation that drove my parents and many other whites out of the neighborhoods they lived in. My father was a big city high school physics teacher and also had to leave his school. The black kids in his desegregated school had little interest in education, were insulting and disrespectful to the white teachers and very disruptive. The final straw for my dad was when he tried to break up a fight between two groups of blacks in his high school cafeteria and had a knife pulled on him. He decided it was time to find a new job.

    • Agree: mc23
    • Thanks: Seneca44
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Mark G.


    They found out the majority of blacks didn’t actually want to be equals.
     
    Yes, they found out blacks are much less likely to want equality than whites are. Or to be as charitable as possible to blacks: they found out that blacks tend to define "equality" very differently from whites. To a degree, I sympathize with blacks. On average, they will always have more violent and less pleasant communities than whites, they will always be poorer and have fewer non-athletic non-musical achievements than whites, etc etc. And on some level I think they all know that. I might feel angry too.

    Replies: @rebel yell

  28. Drake: “Whites Are Devils”

    And through it all they never come out and say “Whites are devils” but it all adds up to the same thing.

    LMAO!

    Nice clickbait Steve, you got the usual knuckle-draggers, mouths-a-froth. You have certainly learned the IQ of your readership over the years!

    • Replies: @D. K.
    @Truth

    "LMAO!

    "Nice clickbait Steve, you got the usual knuckle-draggers, mouths-a-froth. You have certainly learned the IQ of your readership over the years!"

    Says this guy:

    ***

    Truth says:

    March 31, 2015 at 5:17 am GMT • 7.5 years ago ↑

    @D. K.

    I’ve taken an IQ test, but I will keep the scores to myself, just to give you something to ruminate upon, but I will tell you that, if I remember correctly, my SAT score was 979.

    Extrapolate away!

    • Replies: @D. K.

    ***

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/haven-monahan-john-doerr-and-now-amanda-knox-three-great-white-defendants-walk-in-one-week/

    Replies: @Truth

  29. @PhysicistDave
    Yeah, but let's remember that the attack on Whites does not really benefit most non-Whites: I recommend Tom Wolfe's brilliant little essay "Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers" to anyone who doubts this.

    Indeed, it actually hurts non-Whites by denying that they possess, to use the currently fashionable term, "agency."

    So, cui bono? Of course, a few privileged non-Whites who are given sinecures to buy them off.

    But mainly the ruling White elite, who use the whole con game to turn Americans against each other so as to perpetuate the rule of the elite.

    Divide et impera.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @scrivener3, @Gamecock, @Moses

    But mainly the ruling White elite, who use the whole con game to turn Americans against each other so as to perpetuate the rule of the elite.

    That’s my theory. After the collapse of the USSR the security state was thrown in a dilemma: Why do we need them any more? Why do we need a CIA. No nation presents a credible military threat. Why do we need an FBI. I don’t hear much about organized crime today. Why do we need an NSA and thousands of other departments, bureaus, quasi-police forces, Voice of America, etc.

    They tried to gin up the threat of Islamic radicalism, but that is more like low level crime. Mostly it is lone wolfs, not much can be done to prevent it other than harden targets – which we have been doing but which local government is capable of doing.

    The usefulness of global warming and systematic racism is obvious to me. Both require a large almost all powerful bureaucratic state to defeat. Think of how many whites would be terrorizing blacks with nooses and systemic abuse if not for the feds.

    So when you see another article about how minorities are imprisoned more than whites or that women doctors earn less than men doctors even when they are in private solo practice, it is simply the press sucking up to the powerful politicians and bureaucrats. They are saying “look how much we need your firm hand and leadership”. Those articles never get spiked, forward the writer’s career and flatter all the right people.

  30. @Almost Missouri

    Liberalism is too sophisticated to just come out and say “whites are devils.” Instead it says lots of other things that indirectly add up to the same thing.

    There are two ways racism can work. ... you could point to it and call it the “n-word”. ... That’s how old-fashioned KKK racism works.

    But liberal anti-white bigotry works differently.
     

    I don't know if it is really that "liberalism is too sophisticated" just to come out and say "whites are devils". I'm sure they would love to use "old-fashioned" KKK-style racism against whites and make "white" into a one-word slur, in the same way that that "nigger" is. And they have tried mightily to accomplish this, but it has never caught on beyond a few undergraduate malcontents.

    The problem for liberalism is that all of their imprecations about whites simply aren't true. Whites do have faults, naivety and pathological altruism come to mind, but liberals don't want those faults to end, so they don't criticize them. Rather, liberals simply want to harm whites, so they criticize not faults but virtues. That is the the reason that liberal anti-white racism has to affect "sophistication" by "exhaustively analy[zing] every individual move ... and declar[ing] each move to be sinister and evil." Transmuting good to evil and evil to good takes effort, the effort for example of creating and promoting the nonsensical dialectic of Critical Race Theory. But, as Drake notes, liberals are up to the task, no matter how many lies and lives it takes.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    The problem for liberalism is that all of their imprecations about whites simply aren’t true. Whites do have faults, naivety and pathological altruism come to mind, but liberals don’t want those faults to end, so they don’t criticize them. Rather, liberals simply want to harm whites, so they criticize not faults but virtues. That is the the reason that liberal anti-white racism has to affect “sophistication” by “exhaustively analy[zing] every individual move … and declar[ing] each move to be sinister and evil.” Transmuting good to evil and evil to good takes effort, the effort for example of creating and promoting the nonsensical dialectic of Critical Race Theory. But, as Drake notes, liberals are up to the task, no matter how many lies and lives it takes.

    I think the point that Drake is making is that the treatment whites receive is a lot like what a long term battered wife receives – anything she does is wrong and risks a blow up because the rules themselves are self-contradictory, so she’s kept in a constant state of subservience and paralysis. Strict but internally-consistent rules would at least permit someone to comply with them and avoid the slap in the mouth. But the point isn’t to get you to comply so much as to keep you in a state of paralysis where you can’t get any wits about you to see what is actually happening to you. I think the point of this state of paralysis is for the enemy to preempt any countermeasures that could work until they’ve tipped demographics to the point that such countermeasures would no longer work.

    • Thanks: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Anon
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)


    But the point isn’t to get you to comply so much as to keep you in a state of paralysis where you can’t get any wits about you to see what is actually happening to you. I think the point of this state of paralysis is for the enemy to preempt any countermeasures that could work until they’ve tipped demographics to the point that such countermeasures would no longer work.
     
    Could this explain the constant hyperfocus on other issues, ones that are often faraway, remote, abstract, of dubious significance:

    —Ukraine
    —“Climate change”
    —Covid
    —Russia

    All while the country is being actually invaded by foreigners and its native population replaced.
  31. Unfortunately, the dialog has evolved since this was written and it no longer works that way. Whites are disqualified not because of anything they do or say but simply for being white.

    James Franco, you may be a fine talented actor with a close physical resemblance to Fidel Castro, but you are still just a white person so you should not be allowed to get that job. How is this different than Malcolm X’s formulation? Not at all. If the word “wigger” didn’t already have a different meaning, we could use it here – no matter what you do Franco, you’re still just a wigger. All white male judges in America who thought that they were qualified for Justice Breyer’s seat – sorry, boys, y’all are just a bunch of wiggers and we won’t be considering you for that job. This goes on openly every day.

    Sometimes, it’s done in the form of “polite” racism, just like anti-Semitism used to be done politely in America. If Mr. Goldberg wanted to book a hotel room at a “restricted” resort before 1964, they wouldn’t say to him, “We don’t take Jews. GTF out of here kike.” This was America, not Nazi Germany. Instead the desk clerk would say, “Oh, I am sorry Mr. Goldberg, we don’t have any rooms available for those dates. I can give you the number for the Hotel Berkowitz on the other end of town. They might have something available for you.” Likewise today, when a white man at the top of his class applies for a faculty job as a physics prof, they don’t tell him “We don’t take wiggers. GTF out of this campus before sundown, whitey, if you know what is good for you.” Instead they politely say, “we have reviewed your DIE portfolio and statement and we don’t think that you have demonstrated a sufficient commitment to DIE values.” You see, it’s not even about being white – that would be racist. It’s about having a DEMONSTRATED COMMITMENT TO DIVERSITY. It’s just that all the people who have a DEMONSTRATED COMMITMENT TO DIVERSITY happen to be black or else some sort of radical leftist white activist, but most of the time black.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    The first phenomenon you mention shows a vendor undertaking an act which has costs and (perhaps) some occult benefits. Foregoing mutually beneficial transactions is an obvious cost. The losses are limited to the parties involved. The social reaction was that affluent Jews set up their own clubs and commercial resorts when and where there were a critical mass of Jews to do so.

    The 2d phenomenon exists in the social matrix of contemporary academe, which lacks operational measures of competence, vends services whose utility is murky, and is populated with severely other-directed people who consider themselves an Illuminati in re the rest of the population. Also, their institutions are extensively subsidized with tax money and the crucial decision-makers therein are insulated from people who understand the financial picture. So, you have very insular institutions who are unresponsive to their paying clientele but who imitate each other relentlessly. You've got, leaving aside special focus institutions, about 2,400 bacclaureate granting institutions in the country and the number who are not infected with wokery are likely a single digit share of the whole.

  32. @Jack D
    @Altai

    Somewhat OT but hilarious nevertheless:

    https://twitter.com/MFA_China/status/1557726862872576000

    This was not a satirical question. Chicoms really don't understand Western thinking any more than we understand theirs.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Pixo, @EddieSpaghetti, @EddieSpaghetti

    Would the UK remain calm and show restraint if Scotland split itself from the UK?

    The fervid joy in England would preclude calmness, so the man has a point.

    • Agree: martin_2
  33. @War for Blair Mountain
    Off topic:

    Steve

    You know that Olivia Newton John’s was Max Born’s granddaughter-right?…Max Born was one of the creators of Quantum Mechanics(Born’s Rule)…I don’t know if anyone has mentioned this yet in the comments….

    Replies: @War for Blair Mountain

    Off topic…but weird….

    Can the Born Rule be used to predict if Olivia Newton John is in an entangled dead and alive state?…Or is it the other way around? No gd kets on my keyboard….Steve…where are the fucking kets?

  34. In other words, what Jews claim “anti-semites” do to them. It’s projection.

  35. @AndrewR
    @Almost Missouri

    King's daughter certainly is of abysmal moral character. One strongly suspects her father would be a full on racial terrorist today if he hadn't been martyred.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/BerniceKing/status/1299340664409395202

    Replies: @Art Deco

    She’s actually the only one of Coretta’s brood that wasn’t an embarrassment. She has other things to do with her life than be an ‘activist’ (she has degrees in divinity and law and has in the past been employed in the ministry and in law practice). She appears, as some people do, to be deteriorating intellectually as she ages.

    Another oddity about Coretta’s brood: exceedingly low fertility. I think the four of them have produced one child to date. IIRC, Martin III is the only one whoever married. Martin III is as sorry-assed a character as you can imagine, though less weird and comical than is Dexter.

    One of ML King’s shirt-tails is an independent thinker of sorts. She’s inconvenient to the portside worldview, so her rather messy domestic life is public knowledge.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
    • Replies: @Barnard
    @Art Deco

    Thanks. I didn't realize MLK and Coretta only had one grandchild and that child was born when Martin III was 50. Doing a quick check, Dexter married a woman named Leah Weber in 2013 who appears to be past her child bearing years now. Is this one grandchild getting setup to inherit the family racket trying to make money off MLK's name and likeness? It would be hilarious and fitting to the way they have conducted their family business, if an illegitimate child from MLK or one of his sons tried to force a DNA test to horn in on what is left of their wealth.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  36. @Jack D
    @Altai

    Somewhat OT but hilarious nevertheless:

    https://twitter.com/MFA_China/status/1557726862872576000

    This was not a satirical question. Chicoms really don't understand Western thinking any more than we understand theirs.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Pixo, @EddieSpaghetti, @EddieSpaghetti

    Ireland was ruled by the English far longer than Taiwan by the Mainland Chinese. Same for Calais.

  37. @Dan Korbel
    That’s a stupid chess analogy. I’m guessing Drake was an old guy (60+) who thought his analogy was brilliant.

    Old people have nothing interesting to say because they have nothing interesting to think. They just regurgitate irrelevant knowledge or personal anecdotes or banal ideas because, well, what else do they have to try and be interesting??

    The sad part is they’re not even aware of it. They’re kind of like the old guy wearing a toupee or dying his hair, or like the faded beauty trying to look sexy again by wearing clothes appropriate to a teen. 🤮

    In society people start to become invisible by about the age of 50. They should just accept this fact and not be like the ghost desperate to make others aware of his presence by making noises. Just move on and don’t disturb the living, old people.

    Peace out ✌🏼

    Replies: @D. K., @Luddite in Chief, @Alden, @throtler

    “That’s a stupid chess analogy. I’m guessing Drake was an old guy (60+) who thought his analogy was brilliant.

    “Old people have nothing interesting to say because they have nothing interesting to think. They just regurgitate irrelevant knowledge or personal anecdotes or banal ideas because, well, what else do they have to try and be interesting??”

    Steve Sailer is already 60+ (b. 1958). So, why are you even here, youngster?

    • Replies: @Unintended Consequence
    @D. K.

    Clearly, iSteve is where geezers go to die.😉

  38. @Jack D
    Unfortunately, the dialog has evolved since this was written and it no longer works that way. Whites are disqualified not because of anything they do or say but simply for being white.

    James Franco, you may be a fine talented actor with a close physical resemblance to Fidel Castro, but you are still just a white person so you should not be allowed to get that job. How is this different than Malcolm X's formulation? Not at all. If the word "wigger" didn't already have a different meaning, we could use it here - no matter what you do Franco, you're still just a wigger. All white male judges in America who thought that they were qualified for Justice Breyer's seat - sorry, boys, y'all are just a bunch of wiggers and we won't be considering you for that job. This goes on openly every day.

    Sometimes, it's done in the form of "polite" racism, just like anti-Semitism used to be done politely in America. If Mr. Goldberg wanted to book a hotel room at a "restricted" resort before 1964, they wouldn't say to him, "We don't take Jews. GTF out of here kike." This was America, not Nazi Germany. Instead the desk clerk would say, "Oh, I am sorry Mr. Goldberg, we don't have any rooms available for those dates. I can give you the number for the Hotel Berkowitz on the other end of town. They might have something available for you." Likewise today, when a white man at the top of his class applies for a faculty job as a physics prof, they don't tell him "We don't take wiggers. GTF out of this campus before sundown, whitey, if you know what is good for you." Instead they politely say, "we have reviewed your DIE portfolio and statement and we don't think that you have demonstrated a sufficient commitment to DIE values." You see, it's not even about being white - that would be racist. It's about having a DEMONSTRATED COMMITMENT TO DIVERSITY. It's just that all the people who have a DEMONSTRATED COMMITMENT TO DIVERSITY happen to be black or else some sort of radical leftist white activist, but most of the time black.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    The first phenomenon you mention shows a vendor undertaking an act which has costs and (perhaps) some occult benefits. Foregoing mutually beneficial transactions is an obvious cost. The losses are limited to the parties involved. The social reaction was that affluent Jews set up their own clubs and commercial resorts when and where there were a critical mass of Jews to do so.

    The 2d phenomenon exists in the social matrix of contemporary academe, which lacks operational measures of competence, vends services whose utility is murky, and is populated with severely other-directed people who consider themselves an Illuminati in re the rest of the population. Also, their institutions are extensively subsidized with tax money and the crucial decision-makers therein are insulated from people who understand the financial picture. So, you have very insular institutions who are unresponsive to their paying clientele but who imitate each other relentlessly. You’ve got, leaving aside special focus institutions, about 2,400 bacclaureate granting institutions in the country and the number who are not infected with wokery are likely a single digit share of the whole.

  39. @D. K.
    @Dan Korbel

    "That’s a stupid chess analogy. I’m guessing Drake was an old guy (60+) who thought his analogy was brilliant.

    "Old people have nothing interesting to say because they have nothing interesting to think. They just regurgitate irrelevant knowledge or personal anecdotes or banal ideas because, well, what else do they have to try and be interesting??"

    Steve Sailer is already 60+ (b. 1958). So, why are you even here, youngster?

    Replies: @Unintended Consequence

    Clearly, iSteve is where geezers go to die.😉

  40. This is a lot more work than old fashioned racism, but liberalism has no shortage of intellectuals willing to do that work. And through it all they never come out and say “Whites are devils” but it all adds up to the same thing.

    The fact that the Left controls academia is such a huge advantage for them. Leftist academics get paid to sit around all day talking with each other and coming up with new language, which they throw against the wall, and by a Darwinian process whatever sticks becomes the new liberal conventional wisdom. Our side does come up with new language as well (“politically correct”, “social justice warrior”), but the Left has a serious structural advantage in this regard.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @jb

    The fact that the Left controls academia is such a huge advantage for them. Leftist academics get paid to sit around all day talking with each other and coming up with new language, which they throw against the wall, and by a Darwinian process whatever sticks becomes the new liberal conventional wisdom. Our side does come up with new language as well (“politically correct”, “social justice warrior”), but the Left has a serious structural advantage in this regard.

    They do have a massive advantage with academia and it can't be cracked.

    Even without tenure they have all kinds of control games they can play. Dissent can be crushed through "peer review" which means leftists voting you off the island. Mismeasure of Man was "peer reviewed" and is still used in the social sciences even though it was later shown to be fraudulent (Morton data). They can really do whatever they please.

    The weakness of the left is the internet. They can't control it and their arguments fall apart under open criticism. It is really amazing as to how fast they break down. I watched an online Anthro discussion where half the pro-egalitarian side freaked out because they weren't aware that the left is lying about race. They didn't know what they were supposed lie about.

  41. @PhysicistDave
    Yeah, but let's remember that the attack on Whites does not really benefit most non-Whites: I recommend Tom Wolfe's brilliant little essay "Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers" to anyone who doubts this.

    Indeed, it actually hurts non-Whites by denying that they possess, to use the currently fashionable term, "agency."

    So, cui bono? Of course, a few privileged non-Whites who are given sinecures to buy them off.

    But mainly the ruling White elite, who use the whole con game to turn Americans against each other so as to perpetuate the rule of the elite.

    Divide et impera.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @scrivener3, @Gamecock, @Moses

    the attack on Whites does not really benefit most non-Whites

    They bite the hand that feeds them. Whites are paying for all this happy horseshit.

    When the Left finishes crushing whites, everybody dies.

  42. Salman Rushdie was just stabbed and airlifted to a hospital. He’s currently in surgery.

  43. Jeffrey Epstein forever.

  44. @Truth

    Drake: "Whites Are Devils"
     

    And through it all they never come out and say “Whites are devils” but it all adds up to the same thing.
     
    LMAO!

    Nice clickbait Steve, you got the usual knuckle-draggers, mouths-a-froth. You have certainly learned the IQ of your readership over the years!

    Replies: @D. K.

    “LMAO!

    “Nice clickbait Steve, you got the usual knuckle-draggers, mouths-a-froth. You have certainly learned the IQ of your readership over the years!”

    Says this guy:

    ***

    Truth says:

    March 31, 2015 at 5:17 am GMT • 7.5 years ago ↑

    I’ve taken an IQ test, but I will keep the scores to myself, just to give you something to ruminate upon, but I will tell you that, if I remember correctly, my SAT score was 979.

    Extrapolate away!

    • Replies:

    ***

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/haven-monahan-john-doerr-and-now-amanda-knox-three-great-white-defendants-walk-in-one-week/

    • Replies: @Truth
    @D. K.

    Well Alright!

    I knew that if I worked hard enough I would one day work my way up to having a secretary.

    BTW, I rechecked; my score was 988.

    Replies: @D. K., @Janus

  45. I don’t know how an adult mind could take “whites are devils” seriously as an offense.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Bardon Kaldian

    You're brown.

  46. Unz should charge \$1 per comment, and \$0.10 per upvote/downvote with discounted rates for commenters who consistently have good upvote/downvote ratio.

  47. By the way, Salman Rushdie…..

    I can’t say I knew it would happen, but still….

  48. @Jack D
    @Altai

    Somewhat OT but hilarious nevertheless:

    https://twitter.com/MFA_China/status/1557726862872576000

    This was not a satirical question. Chicoms really don't understand Western thinking any more than we understand theirs.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Pixo, @EddieSpaghetti, @EddieSpaghetti

    Your source’s description of events is inadequate. As Arnaud Bertrand pointed out:

    “[Your source] forgot to mention the key point: if Scotland split itself off AND became a so-called “unsinkable aircraft carrier” for China (or Russia). Pretty sure England wouldn’t be so calm and restrained about that…”

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @EddieSpaghetti

    Take it up with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the PRC. That was the Twitter channel of their official spokesman. Maybe you should offer your services to the MFA since you are clearly better at tailoring totalitarian propaganda for the Western audience than the clown that they have working there.

    , @AnotherDad
    @EddieSpaghetti


    “[Your source] forgot to mention the key point: if Scotland split itself off AND became a so-called “unsinkable aircraft carrier” for China (or Russia). Pretty sure England wouldn’t be so calm and restrained about that…”
     
    Amazing how people--people in the West, not just these boring Chinese hysterics--are willing to whore themselves out for various thugs.

    Taiwan did not "spilt itself off from China". The Chicom thugs managed to conquer China from previous--much less ideologically insane--Nationalist Chinese thugs who only held onto Taiwan. And so Taiwan has evolved into a more prosperous and freer place.

    And it is not an "unsinkable aircraft carrier" either. Like a bunch of the nonsense about Ukraine, Taiwan is irrelevant to the balance of terror between the US and China. Both can incinerate the other's cities quite easily. And, no, the US doesn't have a bunch of nukes stored there "aimed at China." (Of course, if I'm Taiwan--get nukes! That's the lesson for everyone--get nukes, so the big boy thugs can't boss you around.)

    No it's simple: The Chicoms do not like that there is someplace "Chinese" out there that they are not bossing around. Much like Putin with the Ukrainians or the American "elite" with us Deplorables, imperialist thugs just hate it when someone they think is on "their" turf doesn't bow and scrape.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Jack D

  49. anon[216] • Disclaimer says:

    o/t Wiki entries with a Stevian twist.

    Anne Heche:

    On August 19, 2000, Heche drove from Los Angeles to Cantua Creek in a Toyota SUV. Heche, who was wearing a bra and shorts at the time, parked the car and walked 1+1⁄2 miles (2.4 km) before reaching a ranch house. The house owner Araceli Campiz, who had seen Heche in a movie, recognized her and let her in. After drinking a significant amount of water, Heche “took off her Nikes and said she needed to take a shower.” Campiz assumed that Heche was not under the influence of alcohol or drugs, but Heche later revealed that she had taken ecstasy. After taking a shower, Heche entered the living room, asked for a pair of slippers, and suggested that they should watch a movie. After half an hour, Campiz contacted the sheriff’s department. Heche later told the deputies that she was “God, and was going to take everyone back to heaven in a spaceship.” She was then taken by ambulance to Fresno’s University Medical Center and admitted to the psychiatric unit, but was released within a few hours.

    Cantua Creek:

    As of the 2010 census, the population was 466, down from the 655 reported at the 2000 census. . . The racial makeup of Cantua Creek was 244 (52.4%) White, 5 (1.1%) African American, 3 (0.6%) Native American, 1 (0.2%) Asian, 0 (0.0%) Pacific Islander, 199 (42.7%) from other races, and 14 (3.0%) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 461 persons (98.9%).

    My emphasis.

  50. Anon[120] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Almost Missouri


    The problem for liberalism is that all of their imprecations about whites simply aren’t true. Whites do have faults, naivety and pathological altruism come to mind, but liberals don’t want those faults to end, so they don’t criticize them. Rather, liberals simply want to harm whites, so they criticize not faults but virtues. That is the the reason that liberal anti-white racism has to affect “sophistication” by “exhaustively analy[zing] every individual move … and declar[ing] each move to be sinister and evil.” Transmuting good to evil and evil to good takes effort, the effort for example of creating and promoting the nonsensical dialectic of Critical Race Theory. But, as Drake notes, liberals are up to the task, no matter how many lies and lives it takes.
     
    I think the point that Drake is making is that the treatment whites receive is a lot like what a long term battered wife receives - anything she does is wrong and risks a blow up because the rules themselves are self-contradictory, so she's kept in a constant state of subservience and paralysis. Strict but internally-consistent rules would at least permit someone to comply with them and avoid the slap in the mouth. But the point isn't to get you to comply so much as to keep you in a state of paralysis where you can't get any wits about you to see what is actually happening to you. I think the point of this state of paralysis is for the enemy to preempt any countermeasures that could work until they've tipped demographics to the point that such countermeasures would no longer work.

    Replies: @Anon

    But the point isn’t to get you to comply so much as to keep you in a state of paralysis where you can’t get any wits about you to see what is actually happening to you. I think the point of this state of paralysis is for the enemy to preempt any countermeasures that could work until they’ve tipped demographics to the point that such countermeasures would no longer work.

    Could this explain the constant hyperfocus on other issues, ones that are often faraway, remote, abstract, of dubious significance:

    —Ukraine
    —“Climate change”
    —Covid
    —Russia

    All while the country is being actually invaded by foreigners and its native population replaced.

  51. @D. K.
    @Truth

    "LMAO!

    "Nice clickbait Steve, you got the usual knuckle-draggers, mouths-a-froth. You have certainly learned the IQ of your readership over the years!"

    Says this guy:

    ***

    Truth says:

    March 31, 2015 at 5:17 am GMT • 7.5 years ago ↑

    @D. K.

    I’ve taken an IQ test, but I will keep the scores to myself, just to give you something to ruminate upon, but I will tell you that, if I remember correctly, my SAT score was 979.

    Extrapolate away!

    • Replies: @D. K.

    ***

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/haven-monahan-john-doerr-and-now-amanda-knox-three-great-white-defendants-walk-in-one-week/

    Replies: @Truth

    Well Alright!

    I knew that if I worked hard enough I would one day work my way up to having a secretary.

    BTW, I rechecked; my score was 988.

    • Replies: @D. K.
    @Truth

    Kudos!! Did you break 500 on either the Quantitative or the Verbal portion?

    Replies: @Truth

    , @Janus
    @Truth

    If you are telling the Truth about your score of 988, the thing it shows most clearly is that you were born before 1953, since 1969 was the last year a test-taker could get a score that didn't end in a zero.

    Replies: @D. K., @Truth

  52. @EddieSpaghetti
    @Jack D

    Your source's description of events is inadequate. As Arnaud Bertrand pointed out:


    "[Your source] forgot to mention the key point: if Scotland split itself off AND became a so-called "unsinkable aircraft carrier" for China (or Russia). Pretty sure England wouldn't be so calm and restrained about that..."
     

    Replies: @Jack D, @AnotherDad

    Take it up with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the PRC. That was the Twitter channel of their official spokesman. Maybe you should offer your services to the MFA since you are clearly better at tailoring totalitarian propaganda for the Western audience than the clown that they have working there.

  53. @Truth
    @D. K.

    Well Alright!

    I knew that if I worked hard enough I would one day work my way up to having a secretary.

    BTW, I rechecked; my score was 988.

    Replies: @D. K., @Janus

    Kudos!! Did you break 500 on either the Quantitative or the Verbal portion?

    • Replies: @Truth
    @D. K.

    Quantitative. Obviously judging from my body of work, if I retested on verbal, Oxford would send a private plane for me.

  54. But liberal anti-white bigotry works differently. Instead of pointing to the king and calling it a nasty word, it exhaustively analyses every individual move the piece could make and declares each move to be sinister and evil.

    This reminds me of a comment from a year or two ago I have tried very hard to find again (without success) because it so neatly encapsulated the sort of nonsense White people are up against these days.

    The comment was written by someone who worked at a “second or third tier” college. The gist was they were compelled to take some sort of diversity training led by someone with lots of intersectional Pokemon points.

    What made the comment so memorable was the commenter relating how, after the training had gone on for a while, it dawned upon him that the entire point of the training wasn’t what he was being told.

    Rather, the point of the training was to instil within him the idea that “they” wrote the rulebook, he had no say whatever in what went into the rulebook and, most important of all, “they” could change the rulebook at any moment, for any reason (or no reason at all), and that he was expected to keep up with these changes regardless of how senseless and irrational they might be.

    The commenter then went on to say that, as a rule, he was a mild-mannered sort, but after two hours of this blatantly insulting nonsense that no one could reasonably be expected to put up with, he came as close as he ever hoped to come to assaulting someone, anyone, out of sheer frustration at being commanded to swallow all of it.

    It was, for me, one of the all-time great comments because it conveyed so much meaning in so few words. If any reading this could direct me back to it (I will not use the commenters screen name if I ever quote from it), I would be much obliged.

    (It was that good.)

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Drive-by poster

    That reminds me of the much-quoted passage by Theodore Dalrymple:


    In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is…in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.

     

  55. @Danindc
    Love the Drake

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldlan, @Corvinus

    What a relief! I thought Drake the rapper had gone screwy!😮

  56. @Art Deco
    @AndrewR

    She's actually the only one of Coretta's brood that wasn't an embarrassment. She has other things to do with her life than be an 'activist' (she has degrees in divinity and law and has in the past been employed in the ministry and in law practice). She appears, as some people do, to be deteriorating intellectually as she ages.

    Another oddity about Coretta's brood: exceedingly low fertility. I think the four of them have produced one child to date. IIRC, Martin III is the only one whoever married. Martin III is as sorry-assed a character as you can imagine, though less weird and comical than is Dexter.

    One of ML King's shirt-tails is an independent thinker of sorts. She's inconvenient to the portside worldview, so her rather messy domestic life is public knowledge.

    Replies: @Barnard

    Thanks. I didn’t realize MLK and Coretta only had one grandchild and that child was born when Martin III was 50. Doing a quick check, Dexter married a woman named Leah Weber in 2013 who appears to be past her child bearing years now. Is this one grandchild getting setup to inherit the family racket trying to make money off MLK’s name and likeness? It would be hilarious and fitting to the way they have conducted their family business, if an illegitimate child from MLK or one of his sons tried to force a DNA test to horn in on what is left of their wealth.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Barnard

    Eventually, the copyrights will expire, and they're probably a vitiating asset as we speak. They keep noodling around with copyright law to please Disney, but I think 75 years is the norm, so there are about 20 years left to rake in the rents. I've never heard of the family of another public figure copyrighting his public remarks. Dexter spent seven years of his life (1989-96) chasing down royalties (i.e. writing a lot of demand letters). Then there were the speaking fees, the sinecures at NGOs, &c. Martin III was actually tapped to run his father's old organization after Joseph Lowrey retired. (That he was never a minister and had little tertiary schooling notwithstanding). The organization has no real institutional mission and hasn't had one for about 50 years. Whatever work he had to do, he wasn't doing it. The board fired him for absenteeism. Yolanda was notionally an actress. I suppose she could have been in regional theatre. I think IMDB indicates she landed one minor part about every 18 months over a period of 27 years 'ere her death. She was on the lecture circuit though. Showed up at my former employer to give a speech once. The title was "The Dream is Still a Dream".

    Coretta spoke well, but in other ways she was miscast as a public figure. The King Center housed some interesting archives (and did that badly), but was otherwise a grant money vent pipe. I think the archives may have been shipped to Boston University eventually. There was a time about 25 years ago when the American Library Association was sounding the alarm about the dangers to the archives from water damage in the King Center building. She's have been better off if she'd gone back to teaching music and the kids would have been better off if they'd lived a quiet life around Atlanta and found ordinary jobs. (The daughters seem to have been college material; the sons were not).


    If that grandson has any sense, he'll learn an ordinary trade and keep discussions of his paternal-side relatives to his front porch.

  57. @Dan Korbel
    That’s a stupid chess analogy. I’m guessing Drake was an old guy (60+) who thought his analogy was brilliant.

    Old people have nothing interesting to say because they have nothing interesting to think. They just regurgitate irrelevant knowledge or personal anecdotes or banal ideas because, well, what else do they have to try and be interesting??

    The sad part is they’re not even aware of it. They’re kind of like the old guy wearing a toupee or dying his hair, or like the faded beauty trying to look sexy again by wearing clothes appropriate to a teen. 🤮

    In society people start to become invisible by about the age of 50. They should just accept this fact and not be like the ghost desperate to make others aware of his presence by making noises. Just move on and don’t disturb the living, old people.

    Peace out ✌🏼

    Replies: @D. K., @Luddite in Chief, @Alden, @throtler

    Peace out

    I think it is quite wonderful how you insult a bunch of older people, then end your post by saying “peace out.”

    Very now, very 2022, and frankly, learning that you are not under 30 would stun me into shocked silence.

    I hope for your own sake that you become familiar with self-awareness well before you reach the age of 50, because the longer it takes for you to develop it, the more expensive it gets.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Luddite in Chief

    Good job taking the bait, gramps

  58. @Dieter Kief
    Since the white elite majority in the Western world is by and large leaning atheist, it is very ironic, that whites appear as the devil in this - - self created! - context.

    It almost looks as if doing away with religion does not mean to get rid of the religious basics (light & dark, good & evil, the heavens above & hell down below... (the religious evergreens (the archetypes of human existence)).
    See Johann Wolfgang von Goethe's ballad Sorcerer's Apprentice - and his play Faust (I & II). Goethe says in Faust, that the devil is on the scene, as soon as the modern world enrolls. Because the multitude of wonders of social and scientific progress has a - logical, so to speak - dark side to it (this is the Sorcerer's (= modern man's...) unescapable dilemma. (Carl Gustav Jung's psychology of the archetypes can be read as a Goethe-comment).

    Replies: @Liger, @AnotherDad, @John Johnson

    It almost looks as if doing away with religion does not mean to get rid of the religious basics (light & dark, good & evil, the heavens above & hell down below… (the religious evergreens (the archetypes of human existence)).

    Throw in your Chesterton quote or whatever. We’ve done the experiment and the results are clear.

    The scary thing is that because minoritarianism doesn’t have wear a cross or have explicit priests or ministers it gets to be a state religion–which we are supposed to be protected against.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @AnotherDad


    The scary thing is that because minoritarianism doesn’t have wear a cross or have explicit priests or ministers it gets to be a state religion–which we are supposed to be protected against.
     
    That always gets me, when I hear people boast about the separation of church and state. The church from which the state has freed itself has long since been replaced by something far more oppressive and destructive.

    With religion, at least, you knew where you stood. Even in theocratic societies, people who didn't belong to the ruling religion could often accommodate themselves to the system and live unmolested. That is impossible with the current secular religion of endless immigration and the promotion of sexual degeneracy.

    Whereas most conventional religions have fixed doctrines, the current religion has to keep extending its ideology, becoming ever more extreme. It's almost a defining characteristic of leftism that you're never safe from it. Things that were normal and uncontroversial to say ten years ago will now leave you unemployed and ruined (and, in Europe, possibly in prison).

    Replies: @JackOH

  59. @EddieSpaghetti
    @Jack D

    Your source's description of events is inadequate. As Arnaud Bertrand pointed out:


    "[Your source] forgot to mention the key point: if Scotland split itself off AND became a so-called "unsinkable aircraft carrier" for China (or Russia). Pretty sure England wouldn't be so calm and restrained about that..."
     

    Replies: @Jack D, @AnotherDad

    “[Your source] forgot to mention the key point: if Scotland split itself off AND became a so-called “unsinkable aircraft carrier” for China (or Russia). Pretty sure England wouldn’t be so calm and restrained about that…”

    Amazing how people–people in the West, not just these boring Chinese hysterics–are willing to whore themselves out for various thugs.

    Taiwan did not “spilt itself off from China”. The Chicom thugs managed to conquer China from previous–much less ideologically insane–Nationalist Chinese thugs who only held onto Taiwan. And so Taiwan has evolved into a more prosperous and freer place.

    And it is not an “unsinkable aircraft carrier” either. Like a bunch of the nonsense about Ukraine, Taiwan is irrelevant to the balance of terror between the US and China. Both can incinerate the other’s cities quite easily. And, no, the US doesn’t have a bunch of nukes stored there “aimed at China.” (Of course, if I’m Taiwan–get nukes! That’s the lesson for everyone–get nukes, so the big boy thugs can’t boss you around.)

    No it’s simple: The Chicoms do not like that there is someplace “Chinese” out there that they are not bossing around. Much like Putin with the Ukrainians or the American “elite” with us Deplorables, imperialist thugs just hate it when someone they think is on “their” turf doesn’t bow and scrape.

    • Thanks: Jack D
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @AnotherDad

    Agree, except about the reasons the PRC wants Taiwan.

    The PRC is not interested in a Putin-esque "gathering of Chinese lands". They incorporate non-Chinese territory, and they also have not claimed other territory that was formerly part of the Chinese empire.

    The real reasons for wanting Taiwan are...

    (1) The ChiComms still want to settle the score with their old enemy, the government of Chiang Kai-Shek.

    (2) The existence of a free and successful non-Communist Chinese state calls into question the legitimacy of the PRC and its policies.

    (3) The waterways around Taiwan are strategically important.

    , @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    Whores at least do it for the money. I have the feeling that Eddie is giving out freebies to Putin and Xi just for the thrill of it.

    Replies: @EddieSpaghetti

  60. @Danindc
    Love the Drake

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldlan, @Corvinus

    Indeed, in Bizarro Jerry World.

    Conservatism is too sophisticated to just come out and say “anti-whites are devils.” Instead it says lots of other things that indirectly add up to the same thing.

    There are two ways that this can work. Let’s use a chess king on a chessboard as a metaphor. If you wanted to totally denigrate everything the chess piece does, you could point to it and call it a “race traitor”. No matter what move the king makes, it’s still carries that designation around, and is thereby stigmatized.

    But conservative pro-white bigotry works differently. Instead of pointing to the king and calling it a nasty word, it exhaustively analyses every individual move the piece could make and declares each move to be sinister and evil. It’s moves up: that’s anti-white. It moves down: that’s racial suicide. It moves left: that’s Jewish machinations. It moves right: that’s globohomo . It moves diagonal: that’s miscegenation or some other nonsense. It makes friends with blacks: it’s ruining America’s future. And so on and so on, putting Normie Whites–who simply are making their own decisions about race and culture–under a microscope, looking at every thought, word and act in the worst possible light, blaming them for every problem, or just making up slander (the tyranny part of Christofascism).

    This is a lot more work than old fashioned anti-whitish, but conservatism has no shortage of intellectuals willing to do that work. And through it all they never come out and say “Anti-whites are devils” but it all adds up to the same thing.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Corvinus


    But conservative pro-white bigotry works differently. Instead of pointing to the king and calling it a nasty word, it exhaustively analyses every individual move the piece could make and declares each move to be sinister and evil. It’s moves up: that’s anti-white. It moves down: that’s racial suicide. It moves left: that’s Jewish machinations. It moves right: that’s globohomo . It moves diagonal: that’s miscegenation or some other nonsense. It makes friends with blacks: it’s ruining America’s future. And so on and so on, putting Normie Whites–who simply are making their own decisions about race and culture–under a microscope, looking at every thought, word and act in the worst possible light, blaming them for every problem, or just making up slander (the tyranny part of Christofascism).
     
    You'll be happier if you just admit you dislike white European identity.

    It's OK with me, but I find people who try to deny one racial historical culture, in this case whites, right to exist, proudly, on lands they built and refusing to be ethnically swamped of racially "polluted" by other races they see as aliens- and especially if that miscegenation is promoted by all means available, whites being the target- to be mentally deranged.

    https://i.imgur.com/hEYqsn2.jpg

    Replies: @Moses, @Corvinus

    , @John Johnson
    @Corvinus

    This is a lot more work than old fashioned anti-whitish, but conservatism has no shortage of intellectuals willing to do that work. And through it all they never come out and say “Anti-whites are devils” but it all adds up to the same thing.

    No it all adds up to race not existing which favors liberalism.

    Conservatism has no shortage of intellectuals that blame "Democrat areas" or "big government" which reinforces the belief that race doesn't exist. Instead of blaming Bad Whites they blame Big Government Democrats where are for the most part White.

    Both liberals and conservatives blame various groups of Whites for Black pathologies.

    It is ultimately anti-White and favors liberalism.

    Conservatism is just an according monkey for the mainstream. The mainstream lets them present their economic and environmental based arguments that don't actually undermine the tenets of liberalism. It's a controlled exchange of race denial based theories. Fox News will never interview Sailer and ask him about racial differences. Fox News will however interview some conservative hack who complains about CNN not wanting to consider all variables.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  61. @Dieter Kief
    Since the white elite majority in the Western world is by and large leaning atheist, it is very ironic, that whites appear as the devil in this - - self created! - context.

    It almost looks as if doing away with religion does not mean to get rid of the religious basics (light & dark, good & evil, the heavens above & hell down below... (the religious evergreens (the archetypes of human existence)).
    See Johann Wolfgang von Goethe's ballad Sorcerer's Apprentice - and his play Faust (I & II). Goethe says in Faust, that the devil is on the scene, as soon as the modern world enrolls. Because the multitude of wonders of social and scientific progress has a - logical, so to speak - dark side to it (this is the Sorcerer's (= modern man's...) unescapable dilemma. (Carl Gustav Jung's psychology of the archetypes can be read as a Goethe-comment).

    Replies: @Liger, @AnotherDad, @John Johnson

    It almost looks as if doing away with religion does not mean to get rid of the religious basics (light & dark, good & evil, the heavens above & hell down below… (the religious evergreens (the archetypes of human existence)).

    No it certainly does not and when Whites leave Christianity 9 out 10 sign up for liberalism. That is based on polls and not speculation.

    Instead of the devil it’s the Bad Whites that are causing the world’s problems.

    I have had liberals tell me that abortion and gay marriage can’t be opposed from a secular point of view. The Science(tm) has spoken and they didn’t want to listen to any counter opinion. The irony is unreal.

    I even had a liberal tell me that all racial inequality in sports is caused by racism. He really believed that there would be more Japanese power forwards if more Japanese were encouraged to play basketball and special government programs were created for them.

    Most Whites can’t handle secularism. I grudgingly had to face this harsh truth after being around secular Whites. I have talked to hundreds of them.

    Secular conservatives and Libertarians sign up for the religion of small government. You see Big Government is holding back the third world and that’s why Mogadishu is a capitalist paradise.

    Very few Whites can deal with the possibility that race is tied to economic development and there is no divine equality for humans from God or nature. It’s just too unfair for them and I would say that most racial realist Whites are actually egalitarians and Christian conservatives that support lying.

    Any anti-establishment movement will have to face an alliance of Whites from both right and left that know the truth and want to suppress it. Mainstream right and left have an unspoken agreement to castigate anyone that steps over the line.

  62. @Corvinus
    @Danindc

    Indeed, in Bizarro Jerry World.

    Conservatism is too sophisticated to just come out and say “anti-whites are devils.” Instead it says lots of other things that indirectly add up to the same thing.

    There are two ways that this can work. Let’s use a chess king on a chessboard as a metaphor. If you wanted to totally denigrate everything the chess piece does, you could point to it and call it a "race traitor”. No matter what move the king makes, it’s still carries that designation around, and is thereby stigmatized.

    But conservative pro-white bigotry works differently. Instead of pointing to the king and calling it a nasty word, it exhaustively analyses every individual move the piece could make and declares each move to be sinister and evil. It’s moves up: that’s anti-white. It moves down: that’s racial suicide. It moves left: that’s Jewish machinations. It moves right: that’s globohomo . It moves diagonal: that’s miscegenation or some other nonsense. It makes friends with blacks: it's ruining America's future. And so on and so on, putting Normie Whites--who simply are making their own decisions about race and culture--under a microscope, looking at every thought, word and act in the worst possible light, blaming them for every problem, or just making up slander (the tyranny part of Christofascism).

    This is a lot more work than old fashioned anti-whitish, but conservatism has no shortage of intellectuals willing to do that work. And through it all they never come out and say "Anti-whites are devils” but it all adds up to the same thing.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @John Johnson

    But conservative pro-white bigotry works differently. Instead of pointing to the king and calling it a nasty word, it exhaustively analyses every individual move the piece could make and declares each move to be sinister and evil. It’s moves up: that’s anti-white. It moves down: that’s racial suicide. It moves left: that’s Jewish machinations. It moves right: that’s globohomo . It moves diagonal: that’s miscegenation or some other nonsense. It makes friends with blacks: it’s ruining America’s future. And so on and so on, putting Normie Whites–who simply are making their own decisions about race and culture–under a microscope, looking at every thought, word and act in the worst possible light, blaming them for every problem, or just making up slander (the tyranny part of Christofascism).

    You’ll be happier if you just admit you dislike white European identity.

    It’s OK with me, but I find people who try to deny one racial historical culture, in this case whites, right to exist, proudly, on lands they built and refusing to be ethnically swamped of racially “polluted” by other races they see as aliens- and especially if that miscegenation is promoted by all means available, whites being the target- to be mentally deranged.

    • Replies: @Moses
    @Bardon Kaldian

    It's pretty clear that Corvi is anti-Hellenic aka anti-White.

    , @Corvinus
    @Bardon Kaldian

    "You’ll be happier if you just admit you dislike white European identity."

    To the contrary, I LOVE my Polish, Dutch, and German heritage. The problem is that when I refuse to love it in the way YOU or others tell me to, lest I am designated as "anti-white" or a "race traitor".

    "It’s OK with me, but I find people who try to deny one racial historical culture, in this case whites, right to exist, proudly, on lands they built"

    Whites today do celebrate their history and culture and traditions, again, just not in the manner you demand. As far as on the "lands they built", that is a zealotry. Today's youth, of their own volition and accord, see right through it.

    "and refusing to be ethnically swamped of racially “polluted” by other races they see as aliens- and especially if that miscegenation is promoted by all means available, whites being the target- to be mentally deranged."

    Now you have completely gone off the rails here. You do realize that the Nordics felt that the Alpine and Mediterranean "races" in Europe were also "polluted", right? Furthermore, how does it personally harm YOU if people of their own free will date, mate, and procreate outside of their race? Again, today's youth see right through it. Not because they have been "indoctrinated", but because of their own investigations into race and culture and politics. And having that liberty to do so cuts you to the bone.

    Replies: @rebel yell

  63. @jb

    This is a lot more work than old fashioned racism, but liberalism has no shortage of intellectuals willing to do that work. And through it all they never come out and say “Whites are devils” but it all adds up to the same thing.
     
    The fact that the Left controls academia is such a huge advantage for them. Leftist academics get paid to sit around all day talking with each other and coming up with new language, which they throw against the wall, and by a Darwinian process whatever sticks becomes the new liberal conventional wisdom. Our side does come up with new language as well ("politically correct", "social justice warrior"), but the Left has a serious structural advantage in this regard.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    The fact that the Left controls academia is such a huge advantage for them. Leftist academics get paid to sit around all day talking with each other and coming up with new language, which they throw against the wall, and by a Darwinian process whatever sticks becomes the new liberal conventional wisdom. Our side does come up with new language as well (“politically correct”, “social justice warrior”), but the Left has a serious structural advantage in this regard.

    They do have a massive advantage with academia and it can’t be cracked.

    Even without tenure they have all kinds of control games they can play. Dissent can be crushed through “peer review” which means leftists voting you off the island. Mismeasure of Man was “peer reviewed” and is still used in the social sciences even though it was later shown to be fraudulent (Morton data). They can really do whatever they please.

    The weakness of the left is the internet. They can’t control it and their arguments fall apart under open criticism. It is really amazing as to how fast they break down. I watched an online Anthro discussion where half the pro-egalitarian side freaked out because they weren’t aware that the left is lying about race. They didn’t know what they were supposed lie about.

  64. I know when that (anti-white cancellation) hotline bling, that can only mean one thing…

  65. The plot twist is that a lot of the people agreeing and amplifying those thoughts are white themselves, as they think it will put them ahead of other whites. Intra-white class warfare.

  66. @Corvinus
    @Danindc

    Indeed, in Bizarro Jerry World.

    Conservatism is too sophisticated to just come out and say “anti-whites are devils.” Instead it says lots of other things that indirectly add up to the same thing.

    There are two ways that this can work. Let’s use a chess king on a chessboard as a metaphor. If you wanted to totally denigrate everything the chess piece does, you could point to it and call it a "race traitor”. No matter what move the king makes, it’s still carries that designation around, and is thereby stigmatized.

    But conservative pro-white bigotry works differently. Instead of pointing to the king and calling it a nasty word, it exhaustively analyses every individual move the piece could make and declares each move to be sinister and evil. It’s moves up: that’s anti-white. It moves down: that’s racial suicide. It moves left: that’s Jewish machinations. It moves right: that’s globohomo . It moves diagonal: that’s miscegenation or some other nonsense. It makes friends with blacks: it's ruining America's future. And so on and so on, putting Normie Whites--who simply are making their own decisions about race and culture--under a microscope, looking at every thought, word and act in the worst possible light, blaming them for every problem, or just making up slander (the tyranny part of Christofascism).

    This is a lot more work than old fashioned anti-whitish, but conservatism has no shortage of intellectuals willing to do that work. And through it all they never come out and say "Anti-whites are devils” but it all adds up to the same thing.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @John Johnson

    This is a lot more work than old fashioned anti-whitish, but conservatism has no shortage of intellectuals willing to do that work. And through it all they never come out and say “Anti-whites are devils” but it all adds up to the same thing.

    No it all adds up to race not existing which favors liberalism.

    Conservatism has no shortage of intellectuals that blame “Democrat areas” or “big government” which reinforces the belief that race doesn’t exist. Instead of blaming Bad Whites they blame Big Government Democrats where are for the most part White.

    Both liberals and conservatives blame various groups of Whites for Black pathologies.

    It is ultimately anti-White and favors liberalism.

    Conservatism is just an according monkey for the mainstream. The mainstream lets them present their economic and environmental based arguments that don’t actually undermine the tenets of liberalism. It’s a controlled exchange of race denial based theories. Fox News will never interview Sailer and ask him about racial differences. Fox News will however interview some conservative hack who complains about CNN not wanting to consider all variables.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @John Johnson

    "It is ultimately anti-White"

    And here we go again with this phrase. What does "anti-white" even mean? What are the metrics? Who creates these standards? Under what authority? Must all white people adhere to this criteria at all time? Why? What happens when white people refuse to abide by that criteria? In your world, is there such thing as a "white purity test"?

    "I watched an online Anthro discussion where half the pro-egalitarian side freaked out because they weren’t aware that the left is lying about race. They didn’t know what they were supposed lie about."

    Link please.

    "It’s a controlled exchange of race denial based theories."

    In your opinion.

    "Fox News will never interview Sailer and ask him about racial differences."

    About his perceptions of differences between the races.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  67. @Liger
    @Dieter Kief

    Bertrand Russell once argued that Marxism is basically a Christian heresy with History in the place of God, the proletatiat in the place of the elect, the bougeosie in the place of the reprobate, and a promised revolution
    instead of a second coming.

    American Wokeism is likewise a sort of mutilated Christless Christianity, one with a seemingly Calvinistic bent. Slavery is the Fall, systemic racism/white privilige is original sin, the elect are the woke and the various sacredotal castes, the reprobate are basically everyone else.

    Replies: @martin_2, @Reg Cæsar

    Political ideology cannot replace religion because it doesn’t offer any hope of an afterlife.

  68. @PhysicistDave
    Yeah, but let's remember that the attack on Whites does not really benefit most non-Whites: I recommend Tom Wolfe's brilliant little essay "Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers" to anyone who doubts this.

    Indeed, it actually hurts non-Whites by denying that they possess, to use the currently fashionable term, "agency."

    So, cui bono? Of course, a few privileged non-Whites who are given sinecures to buy them off.

    But mainly the ruling White elite, who use the whole con game to turn Americans against each other so as to perpetuate the rule of the elite.

    Divide et impera.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @scrivener3, @Gamecock, @Moses

    Yeah, but let’s remember that the attack on Whites does not really benefit most non-Whites:

    Anti-White animus does not benefit non-Whites in the long run, but that’s not the point. Sticking it to Whites is the point. Whites had the audacity to create advanced, orderly civilizations that Browns/Blacks are unable to create. Envy leads to hate sure as water seeks the lowest point.

    “After such knowledge, what forgiveness?”

    The only thing worse for a non-White than living in a rayciss America with bigoted Whites is not being able to immigrate to a rayciss America and live with bigoted Whites.

    If you want a picture of the future, imagine a non-White boot stamping on a White face – forever.

    It will get worse before it gets better…if it gets better.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Moses


    Anti-White animus does not benefit non-Whites in the long run
     
    Yes it does. Nonwhites inherit the earth.

    Replies: @Moses

    , @PhysicistDave
    @Moses

    Moses wrote to me:


    Anti-White animus does not benefit non-Whites in the long run, but that’s not the point. Sticking it to Whites is the point. Whites had the audacity to create advanced, orderly civilizations that Browns/Blacks are unable to create. Envy leads to hate sure as water seeks the lowest point.
     
    Most Hispanics seem not to be hostile to Whites.

    And a lot of Blacks are not hostile (yes, some Blacks are).

    The whole "Hate Whitey" thing is a con that is ginned up by a lot of privileged Whites -- in the media, in politics, and in the universities -- along with some Black con artists who pretend to be Black leaders.

    That many Blacks fall for it is hardly a surprise -- wouldn't you if it were constantly drummed into you?

    The surprising thing is how many Blacks do manage to see through it.

    Replies: @Moses

  69. Whites are devils, and blacks are angels. Any criticism or suggestion that they are not attendants of the Lord and perfect in every way is forbidden.

    This could have implications beyond sports:

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34387961/more-black-nfl-retirees-approved-dementia-claims-rescored-tests

    ‘Re-scoring’ could be applied to many fields, and lawyers might collect substantial commissions on back pay for work that was never done because someone didn’t pass the hiring test, for example.

  70. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Corvinus


    But conservative pro-white bigotry works differently. Instead of pointing to the king and calling it a nasty word, it exhaustively analyses every individual move the piece could make and declares each move to be sinister and evil. It’s moves up: that’s anti-white. It moves down: that’s racial suicide. It moves left: that’s Jewish machinations. It moves right: that’s globohomo . It moves diagonal: that’s miscegenation or some other nonsense. It makes friends with blacks: it’s ruining America’s future. And so on and so on, putting Normie Whites–who simply are making their own decisions about race and culture–under a microscope, looking at every thought, word and act in the worst possible light, blaming them for every problem, or just making up slander (the tyranny part of Christofascism).
     
    You'll be happier if you just admit you dislike white European identity.

    It's OK with me, but I find people who try to deny one racial historical culture, in this case whites, right to exist, proudly, on lands they built and refusing to be ethnically swamped of racially "polluted" by other races they see as aliens- and especially if that miscegenation is promoted by all means available, whites being the target- to be mentally deranged.

    https://i.imgur.com/hEYqsn2.jpg

    Replies: @Moses, @Corvinus

    It’s pretty clear that Corvi is anti-Hellenic aka anti-White.

  71. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Corvinus


    But conservative pro-white bigotry works differently. Instead of pointing to the king and calling it a nasty word, it exhaustively analyses every individual move the piece could make and declares each move to be sinister and evil. It’s moves up: that’s anti-white. It moves down: that’s racial suicide. It moves left: that’s Jewish machinations. It moves right: that’s globohomo . It moves diagonal: that’s miscegenation or some other nonsense. It makes friends with blacks: it’s ruining America’s future. And so on and so on, putting Normie Whites–who simply are making their own decisions about race and culture–under a microscope, looking at every thought, word and act in the worst possible light, blaming them for every problem, or just making up slander (the tyranny part of Christofascism).
     
    You'll be happier if you just admit you dislike white European identity.

    It's OK with me, but I find people who try to deny one racial historical culture, in this case whites, right to exist, proudly, on lands they built and refusing to be ethnically swamped of racially "polluted" by other races they see as aliens- and especially if that miscegenation is promoted by all means available, whites being the target- to be mentally deranged.

    https://i.imgur.com/hEYqsn2.jpg

    Replies: @Moses, @Corvinus

    “You’ll be happier if you just admit you dislike white European identity.”

    To the contrary, I LOVE my Polish, Dutch, and German heritage. The problem is that when I refuse to love it in the way YOU or others tell me to, lest I am designated as “anti-white” or a “race traitor”.

    “It’s OK with me, but I find people who try to deny one racial historical culture, in this case whites, right to exist, proudly, on lands they built”

    Whites today do celebrate their history and culture and traditions, again, just not in the manner you demand. As far as on the “lands they built”, that is a zealotry. Today’s youth, of their own volition and accord, see right through it.

    “and refusing to be ethnically swamped of racially “polluted” by other races they see as aliens- and especially if that miscegenation is promoted by all means available, whites being the target- to be mentally deranged.”

    Now you have completely gone off the rails here. You do realize that the Nordics felt that the Alpine and Mediterranean “races” in Europe were also “polluted”, right? Furthermore, how does it personally harm YOU if people of their own free will date, mate, and procreate outside of their race? Again, today’s youth see right through it. Not because they have been “indoctrinated”, but because of their own investigations into race and culture and politics. And having that liberty to do so cuts you to the bone.

    • Replies: @rebel yell
    @Corvinus


    To the contrary, I LOVE my Polish, Dutch, and German heritage.
     
    You damn well better not say that at a diversity training.
    You come from vile races. The Dutch committed genocide against the Indians in New York. The Germans are guilty of the Holocaust. And the Poles - well, I'm sure they did something evil.
    You must atone for your Western Civilization sins. You must pay reparations. You must forfeit your job so the sacred people of color can have it. You must kneel to people of color and ask forgiveness, which of course will not be given.
    How dare you say you love your heritage! You think you're not white? For purposes of being hated, you certainly are.
  72. @Liger
    @Dieter Kief

    Bertrand Russell once argued that Marxism is basically a Christian heresy with History in the place of God, the proletatiat in the place of the elect, the bougeosie in the place of the reprobate, and a promised revolution
    instead of a second coming.

    American Wokeism is likewise a sort of mutilated Christless Christianity, one with a seemingly Calvinistic bent. Slavery is the Fall, systemic racism/white privilige is original sin, the elect are the woke and the various sacredotal castes, the reprobate are basically everyone else.

    Replies: @martin_2, @Reg Cæsar

    Bertrand Russell once argued that Marxism is basically a Christian heresy with History in the place of God, the proletatiat in the place of the elect, the bougeosie in the place of the reprobate, and a promised revolution
    instead of a second coming.

    Mario Pei argued that everything that sounded good from communists was already there in Christianity, and better.

    • Replies: @JackOH
    @Reg Cæsar

    Other observers have noted the "religiosity" in Marxism/Communism; Russell Kirk and probably other conservatives had it that "democracy" had become a God word.

    It really looks like a lot of the 19th and 20th centuries' bright bulbs really believed we could achieve a perfection on earth through politics that was unattainable through religious piety.

  73. @AnotherDad
    @EddieSpaghetti


    “[Your source] forgot to mention the key point: if Scotland split itself off AND became a so-called “unsinkable aircraft carrier” for China (or Russia). Pretty sure England wouldn’t be so calm and restrained about that…”
     
    Amazing how people--people in the West, not just these boring Chinese hysterics--are willing to whore themselves out for various thugs.

    Taiwan did not "spilt itself off from China". The Chicom thugs managed to conquer China from previous--much less ideologically insane--Nationalist Chinese thugs who only held onto Taiwan. And so Taiwan has evolved into a more prosperous and freer place.

    And it is not an "unsinkable aircraft carrier" either. Like a bunch of the nonsense about Ukraine, Taiwan is irrelevant to the balance of terror between the US and China. Both can incinerate the other's cities quite easily. And, no, the US doesn't have a bunch of nukes stored there "aimed at China." (Of course, if I'm Taiwan--get nukes! That's the lesson for everyone--get nukes, so the big boy thugs can't boss you around.)

    No it's simple: The Chicoms do not like that there is someplace "Chinese" out there that they are not bossing around. Much like Putin with the Ukrainians or the American "elite" with us Deplorables, imperialist thugs just hate it when someone they think is on "their" turf doesn't bow and scrape.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Jack D

    Agree, except about the reasons the PRC wants Taiwan.

    The PRC is not interested in a Putin-esque “gathering of Chinese lands”. They incorporate non-Chinese territory, and they also have not claimed other territory that was formerly part of the Chinese empire.

    The real reasons for wanting Taiwan are…

    (1) The ChiComms still want to settle the score with their old enemy, the government of Chiang Kai-Shek.

    (2) The existence of a free and successful non-Communist Chinese state calls into question the legitimacy of the PRC and its policies.

    (3) The waterways around Taiwan are strategically important.

  74. @AnotherDad
    @EddieSpaghetti


    “[Your source] forgot to mention the key point: if Scotland split itself off AND became a so-called “unsinkable aircraft carrier” for China (or Russia). Pretty sure England wouldn’t be so calm and restrained about that…”
     
    Amazing how people--people in the West, not just these boring Chinese hysterics--are willing to whore themselves out for various thugs.

    Taiwan did not "spilt itself off from China". The Chicom thugs managed to conquer China from previous--much less ideologically insane--Nationalist Chinese thugs who only held onto Taiwan. And so Taiwan has evolved into a more prosperous and freer place.

    And it is not an "unsinkable aircraft carrier" either. Like a bunch of the nonsense about Ukraine, Taiwan is irrelevant to the balance of terror between the US and China. Both can incinerate the other's cities quite easily. And, no, the US doesn't have a bunch of nukes stored there "aimed at China." (Of course, if I'm Taiwan--get nukes! That's the lesson for everyone--get nukes, so the big boy thugs can't boss you around.)

    No it's simple: The Chicoms do not like that there is someplace "Chinese" out there that they are not bossing around. Much like Putin with the Ukrainians or the American "elite" with us Deplorables, imperialist thugs just hate it when someone they think is on "their" turf doesn't bow and scrape.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Jack D

    Whores at least do it for the money. I have the feeling that Eddie is giving out freebies to Putin and Xi just for the thrill of it.

    • Replies: @EddieSpaghetti
    @Jack D

    JackD wrote:


    "Whores at least do it for the money. I have the feeling that Eddie[Spaghetti] is giving out freebies to Putin and Xi just for the thrill of it."
     
    Not your best work here Jack. In fact, it's a really weird comment. Still, it's better than any comment you have ever made about Ukraine. Speaking of Ukraine, it appears that the US will attempt to do the same thing for the Taiwanese that it did for the Ukrainians (and for Syria's head chopping rebels). Specifically, help to get a lot of them killed for nothing.

    Due to their strategic locations and histories Taiwan and Ukraine have (manifest?) destinies. Ukraine's destiny is that it will not violate Russia's security concerns. Taiwan's destiny is that it will be de facto unified with China (it is already de jure unified, as recognized by every government on Earth; indeed, even Taiwan's constitution says that Taiwan is a part of China). Taiwan's destiny can be fulfilled in a peaceful and gradual way that allows Taiwan to thrive (which has been going on for many years). Or Taiwan can listen to what the US (privately) tells them to do, i.e. arm themselves to the teeth and try to deny their manifest destiny (like Ukraine did). In which case the same thing will happen to Taiwan that happened to Ukraine.

    Replies: @Jack D

  75. @D. K.
    @Truth

    Kudos!! Did you break 500 on either the Quantitative or the Verbal portion?

    Replies: @Truth

    Quantitative. Obviously judging from my body of work, if I retested on verbal, Oxford would send a private plane for me.

  76. @Reg Cæsar
    @Liger


    Bertrand Russell once argued that Marxism is basically a Christian heresy with History in the place of God, the proletatiat in the place of the elect, the bougeosie in the place of the reprobate, and a promised revolution
    instead of a second coming.
     
    Mario Pei argued that everything that sounded good from communists was already there in Christianity, and better.

    Replies: @JackOH

    Other observers have noted the “religiosity” in Marxism/Communism; Russell Kirk and probably other conservatives had it that “democracy” had become a God word.

    It really looks like a lot of the 19th and 20th centuries’ bright bulbs really believed we could achieve a perfection on earth through politics that was unattainable through religious piety.

  77. @John Johnson
    @Corvinus

    This is a lot more work than old fashioned anti-whitish, but conservatism has no shortage of intellectuals willing to do that work. And through it all they never come out and say “Anti-whites are devils” but it all adds up to the same thing.

    No it all adds up to race not existing which favors liberalism.

    Conservatism has no shortage of intellectuals that blame "Democrat areas" or "big government" which reinforces the belief that race doesn't exist. Instead of blaming Bad Whites they blame Big Government Democrats where are for the most part White.

    Both liberals and conservatives blame various groups of Whites for Black pathologies.

    It is ultimately anti-White and favors liberalism.

    Conservatism is just an according monkey for the mainstream. The mainstream lets them present their economic and environmental based arguments that don't actually undermine the tenets of liberalism. It's a controlled exchange of race denial based theories. Fox News will never interview Sailer and ask him about racial differences. Fox News will however interview some conservative hack who complains about CNN not wanting to consider all variables.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “It is ultimately anti-White”

    And here we go again with this phrase. What does “anti-white” even mean? What are the metrics? Who creates these standards? Under what authority? Must all white people adhere to this criteria at all time? Why? What happens when white people refuse to abide by that criteria? In your world, is there such thing as a “white purity test”?

    “I watched an online Anthro discussion where half the pro-egalitarian side freaked out because they weren’t aware that the left is lying about race. They didn’t know what they were supposed lie about.”

    Link please.

    “It’s a controlled exchange of race denial based theories.”

    In your opinion.

    “Fox News will never interview Sailer and ask him about racial differences.”

    About his perceptions of differences between the races.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Corvinus

    And here we go again with this phrase. What does “anti-white” even mean? What are the metrics?

    Metrics? Since when does dislike or hatred need metrics?

    Anti-White liberalism entails blaming White people for the world's problems. It is the basis of liberal explanations of inequality.


    “I watched an online Anthro discussion where half the pro-egalitarian side freaked out because they weren’t aware that the left is lying about race. They didn’t know what they were supposed lie about.”
     
    Link please.

    It was years ago. Are you unaware that the social sciences indoctrinate their own students?

    In Anthro 101 books they still teach that Boas debunked the idea that races differ by skull size.
    https://www.livinganthropologically.com/biological-anthropology/human-skulls-boas-head-shape/

    About his perceptions of differences between the races.

    His perceptions? Do you deny that BiDil works?

    Isn't it rather peculiar that the social sciences teach that race has no biological basis and yet BiDil works because of biological differences?

    It also isn't controversial in medicine that races differ by testosterone and estrogen. But that couldn't affect behavior, right? Only in individuals? What are groups of people made of?

    Go take your racial fairy tales somewhere else. You guys dominate the mainstream and can't stand that we have a few websites. What does that say about your beliefs if you find dissent on some obscure website to be so threatening?

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Corvinus

  78. @Drive-by poster

    But liberal anti-white bigotry works differently. Instead of pointing to the king and calling it a nasty word, it exhaustively analyses every individual move the piece could make and declares each move to be sinister and evil.
     
    This reminds me of a comment from a year or two ago I have tried very hard to find again (without success) because it so neatly encapsulated the sort of nonsense White people are up against these days.

    The comment was written by someone who worked at a "second or third tier" college. The gist was they were compelled to take some sort of diversity training led by someone with lots of intersectional Pokemon points.

    What made the comment so memorable was the commenter relating how, after the training had gone on for a while, it dawned upon him that the entire point of the training wasn't what he was being told.

    Rather, the point of the training was to instil within him the idea that "they" wrote the rulebook, he had no say whatever in what went into the rulebook and, most important of all, "they" could change the rulebook at any moment, for any reason (or no reason at all), and that he was expected to keep up with these changes regardless of how senseless and irrational they might be.

    The commenter then went on to say that, as a rule, he was a mild-mannered sort, but after two hours of this blatantly insulting nonsense that no one could reasonably be expected to put up with, he came as close as he ever hoped to come to assaulting someone, anyone, out of sheer frustration at being commanded to swallow all of it.

    It was, for me, one of the all-time great comments because it conveyed so much meaning in so few words. If any reading this could direct me back to it (I will not use the commenters screen name if I ever quote from it), I would be much obliged.

    (It was that good.)

    Replies: @Rob McX

    That reminds me of the much-quoted passage by Theodore Dalrymple:

    In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is…in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.

    • Thanks: EddieSpaghetti
  79. OT – Jeffrey Toobin is leaving CNN.

    He said he wants to spend more time with his hand.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Mr. Anon

    "You'll have to pry it from my cold dead hand".

  80. @AnotherDad
    @Dieter Kief


    It almost looks as if doing away with religion does not mean to get rid of the religious basics (light & dark, good & evil, the heavens above & hell down below… (the religious evergreens (the archetypes of human existence)).
     
    Throw in your Chesterton quote or whatever. We've done the experiment and the results are clear.

    The scary thing is that because minoritarianism doesn't have wear a cross or have explicit priests or ministers it gets to be a state religion--which we are supposed to be protected against.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    The scary thing is that because minoritarianism doesn’t have wear a cross or have explicit priests or ministers it gets to be a state religion–which we are supposed to be protected against.

    That always gets me, when I hear people boast about the separation of church and state. The church from which the state has freed itself has long since been replaced by something far more oppressive and destructive.

    With religion, at least, you knew where you stood. Even in theocratic societies, people who didn’t belong to the ruling religion could often accommodate themselves to the system and live unmolested. That is impossible with the current secular religion of endless immigration and the promotion of sexual degeneracy.

    Whereas most conventional religions have fixed doctrines, the current religion has to keep extending its ideology, becoming ever more extreme. It’s almost a defining characteristic of leftism that you’re never safe from it. Things that were normal and uncontroversial to say ten years ago will now leave you unemployed and ruined (and, in Europe, possibly in prison).

    • Replies: @JackOH
    @Rob McX


    Things that were normal and uncontroversial to say ten years ago will now leave you unemployed and ruined (and, in Europe, possibly in prison).
     
    Got that right, Rob McX. I've stated in a few of my comments my belief that a lot of UR is actually fairly reasonable mainstream thought. Mainstream thought as it might have been known by reasonably educated men and women of goodwill in, say, 1902.

    The rhetorical aggro and outright despair (as I'm seeing it) on this site are a sort of sick tribute to the aggrandizing Left's capacity to dishonestly squelch and marginalize the mainstream to serve the Left's goals. (Our civil rights laws are but one example.)
  81. @Mr. Anon
    OT - Jeffrey Toobin is leaving CNN.

    He said he wants to spend more time with his hand.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    “You’ll have to pry it from my cold dead hand”.

  82. @Moses
    @PhysicistDave


    Yeah, but let’s remember that the attack on Whites does not really benefit most non-Whites:
     
    Anti-White animus does not benefit non-Whites in the long run, but that's not the point. Sticking it to Whites is the point. Whites had the audacity to create advanced, orderly civilizations that Browns/Blacks are unable to create. Envy leads to hate sure as water seeks the lowest point.

    "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?"

    The only thing worse for a non-White than living in a rayciss America with bigoted Whites is not being able to immigrate to a rayciss America and live with bigoted Whites.

    If you want a picture of the future, imagine a non-White boot stamping on a White face – forever.

    It will get worse before it gets better...if it gets better.

    Replies: @anon, @PhysicistDave

    Anti-White animus does not benefit non-Whites in the long run

    Yes it does. Nonwhites inherit the earth.

    • Replies: @Moses
    @anon

    I guess “non-Whites inherit the earth” by pulling down Whites is a victory of sorts, although a Pyrrhic one.

    Rhodesia, South Africa, Baltimore, Detroit all slipped from prosperous, orderly societies right down the violent corrupt sh*thole after Blacks took over. But no White man, so yay!

    Replies: @Art Deco

  83. @Truth
    @D. K.

    Well Alright!

    I knew that if I worked hard enough I would one day work my way up to having a secretary.

    BTW, I rechecked; my score was 988.

    Replies: @D. K., @Janus

    If you are telling the Truth about your score of 988, the thing it shows most clearly is that you were born before 1953, since 1969 was the last year a test-taker could get a score that didn’t end in a zero.

    • Replies: @D. K.
    @Janus

    I believe, from things that he had said years ago, that he only is in his early fifties, now!?! I also found the non-round scores odd, since I recalled all the scores ending in zero, back when I was taking them-- beginning with the PSAT, in Autumn 1972, and ending with the GMAT and LSAT, in Autumn 1980.

    , @Truth
    @Janus

    Yeah, you got me, I don't remember WTF I scored on a useless test 40 years ago.

    Replies: @D. K.

  84. @Janus
    @Truth

    If you are telling the Truth about your score of 988, the thing it shows most clearly is that you were born before 1953, since 1969 was the last year a test-taker could get a score that didn't end in a zero.

    Replies: @D. K., @Truth

    I believe, from things that he had said years ago, that he only is in his early fifties, now!?! I also found the non-round scores odd, since I recalled all the scores ending in zero, back when I was taking them– beginning with the PSAT, in Autumn 1972, and ending with the GMAT and LSAT, in Autumn 1980.

  85. @Moses
    @PhysicistDave


    Yeah, but let’s remember that the attack on Whites does not really benefit most non-Whites:
     
    Anti-White animus does not benefit non-Whites in the long run, but that's not the point. Sticking it to Whites is the point. Whites had the audacity to create advanced, orderly civilizations that Browns/Blacks are unable to create. Envy leads to hate sure as water seeks the lowest point.

    "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?"

    The only thing worse for a non-White than living in a rayciss America with bigoted Whites is not being able to immigrate to a rayciss America and live with bigoted Whites.

    If you want a picture of the future, imagine a non-White boot stamping on a White face – forever.

    It will get worse before it gets better...if it gets better.

    Replies: @anon, @PhysicistDave

    Moses wrote to me:

    Anti-White animus does not benefit non-Whites in the long run, but that’s not the point. Sticking it to Whites is the point. Whites had the audacity to create advanced, orderly civilizations that Browns/Blacks are unable to create. Envy leads to hate sure as water seeks the lowest point.

    Most Hispanics seem not to be hostile to Whites.

    And a lot of Blacks are not hostile (yes, some Blacks are).

    The whole “Hate Whitey” thing is a con that is ginned up by a lot of privileged Whites — in the media, in politics, and in the universities — along with some Black con artists who pretend to be Black leaders.

    That many Blacks fall for it is hardly a surprise — wouldn’t you if it were constantly drummed into you?

    The surprising thing is how many Blacks do manage to see through it.

    • Troll: AceDeuce
    • Replies: @Moses
    @PhysicistDave

    Dave, you’re repeating a tired version of “Not all X are like that.”

    *Sigh*

    It’s totally beside the point.

    More then enough non-Whites hate you (assuming you’re White, with a moniker like that it’s likely) that it doesn’t matter. And anyway, the ones that hate you are in Power.

    Power matters.

  86. @Barnard
    @Art Deco

    Thanks. I didn't realize MLK and Coretta only had one grandchild and that child was born when Martin III was 50. Doing a quick check, Dexter married a woman named Leah Weber in 2013 who appears to be past her child bearing years now. Is this one grandchild getting setup to inherit the family racket trying to make money off MLK's name and likeness? It would be hilarious and fitting to the way they have conducted their family business, if an illegitimate child from MLK or one of his sons tried to force a DNA test to horn in on what is left of their wealth.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Eventually, the copyrights will expire, and they’re probably a vitiating asset as we speak. They keep noodling around with copyright law to please Disney, but I think 75 years is the norm, so there are about 20 years left to rake in the rents. I’ve never heard of the family of another public figure copyrighting his public remarks. Dexter spent seven years of his life (1989-96) chasing down royalties (i.e. writing a lot of demand letters). Then there were the speaking fees, the sinecures at NGOs, &c. Martin III was actually tapped to run his father’s old organization after Joseph Lowrey retired. (That he was never a minister and had little tertiary schooling notwithstanding). The organization has no real institutional mission and hasn’t had one for about 50 years. Whatever work he had to do, he wasn’t doing it. The board fired him for absenteeism. Yolanda was notionally an actress. I suppose she could have been in regional theatre. I think IMDB indicates she landed one minor part about every 18 months over a period of 27 years ‘ere her death. She was on the lecture circuit though. Showed up at my former employer to give a speech once. The title was “The Dream is Still a Dream”.

    Coretta spoke well, but in other ways she was miscast as a public figure. The King Center housed some interesting archives (and did that badly), but was otherwise a grant money vent pipe. I think the archives may have been shipped to Boston University eventually. There was a time about 25 years ago when the American Library Association was sounding the alarm about the dangers to the archives from water damage in the King Center building. She’s have been better off if she’d gone back to teaching music and the kids would have been better off if they’d lived a quiet life around Atlanta and found ordinary jobs. (The daughters seem to have been college material; the sons were not).

    If that grandson has any sense, he’ll learn an ordinary trade and keep discussions of his paternal-side relatives to his front porch.

  87. @anon
    @Moses


    Anti-White animus does not benefit non-Whites in the long run
     
    Yes it does. Nonwhites inherit the earth.

    Replies: @Moses

    I guess “non-Whites inherit the earth” by pulling down Whites is a victory of sorts, although a Pyrrhic one.

    Rhodesia, South Africa, Baltimore, Detroit all slipped from prosperous, orderly societies right down the violent corrupt sh*thole after Blacks took over. But no White man, so yay!

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Moses

    South Africa was not an orderly society under the ancien regime. Neither South Africa nor Rhodesia were particularly prosperous in 1970. South Africa then as now has a meh standard of living. Rhodesia was poorer. About 70% of greater Baltimore and 85% of greater Detroit is outside city limits and not notably dangerous.

    Replies: @Moses

  88. @PhysicistDave
    @Moses

    Moses wrote to me:


    Anti-White animus does not benefit non-Whites in the long run, but that’s not the point. Sticking it to Whites is the point. Whites had the audacity to create advanced, orderly civilizations that Browns/Blacks are unable to create. Envy leads to hate sure as water seeks the lowest point.
     
    Most Hispanics seem not to be hostile to Whites.

    And a lot of Blacks are not hostile (yes, some Blacks are).

    The whole "Hate Whitey" thing is a con that is ginned up by a lot of privileged Whites -- in the media, in politics, and in the universities -- along with some Black con artists who pretend to be Black leaders.

    That many Blacks fall for it is hardly a surprise -- wouldn't you if it were constantly drummed into you?

    The surprising thing is how many Blacks do manage to see through it.

    Replies: @Moses

    Dave, you’re repeating a tired version of “Not all X are like that.”

    *Sigh*

    It’s totally beside the point.

    More then enough non-Whites hate you (assuming you’re White, with a moniker like that it’s likely) that it doesn’t matter. And anyway, the ones that hate you are in Power.

    Power matters.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
  89. @Rob McX
    @AnotherDad


    The scary thing is that because minoritarianism doesn’t have wear a cross or have explicit priests or ministers it gets to be a state religion–which we are supposed to be protected against.
     
    That always gets me, when I hear people boast about the separation of church and state. The church from which the state has freed itself has long since been replaced by something far more oppressive and destructive.

    With religion, at least, you knew where you stood. Even in theocratic societies, people who didn't belong to the ruling religion could often accommodate themselves to the system and live unmolested. That is impossible with the current secular religion of endless immigration and the promotion of sexual degeneracy.

    Whereas most conventional religions have fixed doctrines, the current religion has to keep extending its ideology, becoming ever more extreme. It's almost a defining characteristic of leftism that you're never safe from it. Things that were normal and uncontroversial to say ten years ago will now leave you unemployed and ruined (and, in Europe, possibly in prison).

    Replies: @JackOH

    Things that were normal and uncontroversial to say ten years ago will now leave you unemployed and ruined (and, in Europe, possibly in prison).

    Got that right, Rob McX. I’ve stated in a few of my comments my belief that a lot of UR is actually fairly reasonable mainstream thought. Mainstream thought as it might have been known by reasonably educated men and women of goodwill in, say, 1902.

    The rhetorical aggro and outright despair (as I’m seeing it) on this site are a sort of sick tribute to the aggrandizing Left’s capacity to dishonestly squelch and marginalize the mainstream to serve the Left’s goals. (Our civil rights laws are but one example.)

  90. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    Whores at least do it for the money. I have the feeling that Eddie is giving out freebies to Putin and Xi just for the thrill of it.

    Replies: @EddieSpaghetti

    JackD wrote:

    “Whores at least do it for the money. I have the feeling that Eddie[Spaghetti] is giving out freebies to Putin and Xi just for the thrill of it.”

    Not your best work here Jack. In fact, it’s a really weird comment. Still, it’s better than any comment you have ever made about Ukraine. Speaking of Ukraine, it appears that the US will attempt to do the same thing for the Taiwanese that it did for the Ukrainians (and for Syria’s head chopping rebels). Specifically, help to get a lot of them killed for nothing.

    Due to their strategic locations and histories Taiwan and Ukraine have (manifest?) destinies. Ukraine’s destiny is that it will not violate Russia’s security concerns. Taiwan’s destiny is that it will be de facto unified with China (it is already de jure unified, as recognized by every government on Earth; indeed, even Taiwan’s constitution says that Taiwan is a part of China). Taiwan’s destiny can be fulfilled in a peaceful and gradual way that allows Taiwan to thrive (which has been going on for many years). Or Taiwan can listen to what the US (privately) tells them to do, i.e. arm themselves to the teeth and try to deny their manifest destiny (like Ukraine did). In which case the same thing will happen to Taiwan that happened to Ukraine.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @EddieSpaghetti

    Manifest destiny is so 19th century.

    Anyway, why isn't it Cuba's manifest destiny to be within the American sphere of influence? What about the Baltics and Poland? Who determines what is "manifest"?

    What if the people in those countries aren't interested in fulfilling their manifest destiny . The attitude of Russian and China toward these countries is exactly the same as that of an abusive ex-husband. "We are destined to be together, babe!" No matter how many times the wife runs away, the ex is always determined to find her.

    Replies: @Anon

  91. @Mark G.
    What is actually somewhat surprising is that whites voluntarily gave up their dominant position over blacks. The founding document of the U.S. included "all men are created equal", whites fought a war to end slavery and then a hundred years later whites ended segregation. It's unusual in history for an oppressor group to give up its privileged position but we did. Whites, at least compared to other racial groups, seem to have an innate sense of fairness, a willingness to treat others as equals, and a desire to replace coercion with voluntary relationships.

    I'm 66 and old enough to remember the end of segregation. I can remember as a child the eagerness of the adults to end segregation and treat blacks as equals. I also remember they became quite dismayed at the results. They found out the majority of blacks didn't actually want to be equals. They wanted to exploit and victimize whites. There was a huge black crime wave following the end of segregation that drove my parents and many other whites out of the neighborhoods they lived in. My father was a big city high school physics teacher and also had to leave his school. The black kids in his desegregated school had little interest in education, were insulting and disrespectful to the white teachers and very disruptive. The final straw for my dad was when he tried to break up a fight between two groups of blacks in his high school cafeteria and had a knife pulled on him. He decided it was time to find a new job.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    They found out the majority of blacks didn’t actually want to be equals.

    Yes, they found out blacks are much less likely to want equality than whites are. Or to be as charitable as possible to blacks: they found out that blacks tend to define “equality” very differently from whites. To a degree, I sympathize with blacks. On average, they will always have more violent and less pleasant communities than whites, they will always be poorer and have fewer non-athletic non-musical achievements than whites, etc etc. And on some level I think they all know that. I might feel angry too.

    • Replies: @rebel yell
    @AndrewR


    To a degree, I sympathize with blacks. On average, they will always have more violent and less pleasant communities than whites, they will always be poorer and have fewer non-athletic non-musical achievements than whites, etc etc. And on some level I think they all know that.
     
    True - and the honest, helpful answer we could give blacks is this:
    You can still have a better future for your descendants. You just have to improve your breed - that's your road forward. Sterilize your criminals and welfare mothers. Reward the talented 10% of blacks and encourage them to have big families. How long did it take the Russian guy to breed tameness into his foxes - 10 generations or so? How long did it take Europeans to breed so much of the impulsive violence and stupidity out of themselves - a few thousand years? If you make eugenics a matter of deliberate policy instead of accidental evolution, it won't take that long.
    Is there anyone in the black world you could sit down and have that conversation with? Would make an interesting conversation, if you could find even one.
  92. @Luddite in Chief
    @Dan Korbel


    Peace out

     

    I think it is quite wonderful how you insult a bunch of older people, then end your post by saying "peace out."

    Very now, very 2022, and frankly, learning that you are not under 30 would stun me into shocked silence.

    I hope for your own sake that you become familiar with self-awareness well before you reach the age of 50, because the longer it takes for you to develop it, the more expensive it gets.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Good job taking the bait, gramps

  93. @Jack D
    @Altai

    Somewhat OT but hilarious nevertheless:

    https://twitter.com/MFA_China/status/1557726862872576000

    This was not a satirical question. Chicoms really don't understand Western thinking any more than we understand theirs.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Pixo, @EddieSpaghetti, @EddieSpaghetti

    JackD wrote:

    “Chicoms really don’t understand Western thinking any more than we understand theirs.”

    The Chinese understand the US perfectly. They know that the US wants to “re-Yeltsinize” Russia and then “Yeltsinize” China.

  94. @Dan Korbel
    That’s a stupid chess analogy. I’m guessing Drake was an old guy (60+) who thought his analogy was brilliant.

    Old people have nothing interesting to say because they have nothing interesting to think. They just regurgitate irrelevant knowledge or personal anecdotes or banal ideas because, well, what else do they have to try and be interesting??

    The sad part is they’re not even aware of it. They’re kind of like the old guy wearing a toupee or dying his hair, or like the faded beauty trying to look sexy again by wearing clothes appropriate to a teen. 🤮

    In society people start to become invisible by about the age of 50. They should just accept this fact and not be like the ghost desperate to make others aware of his presence by making noises. Just move on and don’t disturb the living, old people.

    Peace out ✌🏼

    Replies: @D. K., @Luddite in Chief, @Alden, @throtler

    Old people those over 50 run this country. Presidents VPs senators congress critter’s judges at every level state assembly critter’s governors city councils county supervisors big city mayors. Most are 50 and over.

  95. @Corvinus
    @John Johnson

    "It is ultimately anti-White"

    And here we go again with this phrase. What does "anti-white" even mean? What are the metrics? Who creates these standards? Under what authority? Must all white people adhere to this criteria at all time? Why? What happens when white people refuse to abide by that criteria? In your world, is there such thing as a "white purity test"?

    "I watched an online Anthro discussion where half the pro-egalitarian side freaked out because they weren’t aware that the left is lying about race. They didn’t know what they were supposed lie about."

    Link please.

    "It’s a controlled exchange of race denial based theories."

    In your opinion.

    "Fox News will never interview Sailer and ask him about racial differences."

    About his perceptions of differences between the races.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    And here we go again with this phrase. What does “anti-white” even mean? What are the metrics?

    Metrics? Since when does dislike or hatred need metrics?

    Anti-White liberalism entails blaming White people for the world’s problems. It is the basis of liberal explanations of inequality.

    “I watched an online Anthro discussion where half the pro-egalitarian side freaked out because they weren’t aware that the left is lying about race. They didn’t know what they were supposed lie about.”

    Link please.

    It was years ago. Are you unaware that the social sciences indoctrinate their own students?

    In Anthro 101 books they still teach that Boas debunked the idea that races differ by skull size.
    https://www.livinganthropologically.com/biological-anthropology/human-skulls-boas-head-shape/

    About his perceptions of differences between the races.

    His perceptions? Do you deny that BiDil works?

    Isn’t it rather peculiar that the social sciences teach that race has no biological basis and yet BiDil works because of biological differences?

    It also isn’t controversial in medicine that races differ by testosterone and estrogen. But that couldn’t affect behavior, right? Only in individuals? What are groups of people made of?

    Go take your racial fairy tales somewhere else. You guys dominate the mainstream and can’t stand that we have a few websites. What does that say about your beliefs if you find dissent on some obscure website to be so threatening?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @John Johnson

    You avoided these questions. Who creates these standards for what is “anti-white”? Under what authority? Must all white people adhere to this criteria at all time? Why? What happens when white people refuse to abide by that criteria? In your world, is there such thing as a “white purity test”?

    , @Corvinus
    @John Johnson

    “Metrics? Since when does dislike or hatred need metrics?”

    Dislike of what? Hatred of what? You need to be specific.

    Suppose as a white person I choose to be friends with a black person. Is that anti-white? What am I disliking? What am I hating?

    Suppose as a white person I choose to take a class to learn more about Asian culture. Is that anti-white? What am I disliking? What am I hating?

    “Anti-White liberalism entails blaming White people for the world’s problems. It is the basis of liberal explanations of inequality.”

    So anti-white and anti-white liberalism are the same to you? Ok, how? Anyways, I counter that pro-white or pro-white conservatism entails blaming non-White people, especially Jews, for the world’s problems. See where that goes?

    “It was years ago. Are you unaware that the social sciences indoctrinate their own students?“

    Or perhaps those students make their own decisions about race and filter that you simply disagree with.

    “His perceptions? Do you deny that BiDil works?”

    Let’s be more insightful please.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1687161/

    —It has for some time been taken for granted that racial categories are of use to the physician in assessing the risks of various diseases. The latest genomic science has, however, failed to provide much support for our intuitions about racial categories in medicine. It has been shown generally that there is more genetic diversity within a so-called “racial” cohort than there is difference between 2 such cohorts. Nor does the human genome, in general, show the sorts of radical discontinuities among different racial groups that our commonplace intuitions would call for; instead, we see much more evidence of gradual blending. Craig Venter, who helped produce the first map of the human genome, commented regarding BiDil, “It is disturbing to see reputable scientists and physicians even categorizing things in terms of race.… There is no basis in the genetic code for race.”10 Given the new genomic science, we must at least entertain the hypothesis that our intuitions were shaped, not by true empirical data, but in large part by vestiges of now-discredited biological theories of race, while acknowledging that most physicians today are not consciously racist nor intend racial discrimination.

    The present defenders of BiDil have admitted that race is a poor scientific prop upon which to base the efficacy of a drug. They insist that eventually we will find the true genetic basis of the differential response to this medication; at that later date, some form of pharmacogenetic screening test will presumably identify all the patients, of whatever race, who will benefit from the drug

    A recent review of genomic science by a group of social scientists offered the conclusions that we must continue to do research on race in medicine, because whatever its biological basis (or lack of same), race remains a very important social construct, and as such, it has tremendous power to influence health and illness. For example, some heart diseases may afflict African Americans more than whites because of the chronic stresses associated with being a member of a minority group rather than because of genetic factors. Simply eliminating race as a variable in medical research would undermine our ability to detect these factors and can therefore hardly be helpful in reducing the serious disparities that remain a problem in American medicine. At the same time we must actively avoid the intellectual trap of assuming that disease incidence disparities among racial or ethnic groups are rooted in genetic differences. We also must not assume that small effects may be attributable to sociocultural variables and that large effects always signal a biologic or genetic basis.—

    “It also isn’t controversial in medicine that races differ by testosterone and estrogen”

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13685530903071802

    —It remains uncertain if, at any given age, one ethnic group has significantly different T than another. Possibly ethnic differences occur at some ages but not others. Studies to date do not include men below the age of 20, if that. The course of T from puberty to old age, while generally known, has not been described with precision. The causes of individual variation in T, beyond age, adolescent maturation and adiposity, are not well known. My analysis improves methodological transparency, provides more precise findings, and introduces sociological variables uncommon in the medical literature.—

    “In Anthro 101 books they still teach that Boas debunked the idea that races differ by skull size.”

    Yeah about that.

    https://www.psu.edu/news/research/story/boas-bones-and-race/

    “What does that say about your beliefs if you find dissent on some obscure website to be so threatening?”

    That is a straw man on your part.

  96. @Bardon Kaldian
    I don't know how an adult mind could take "whites are devils" seriously as an offense.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    You’re brown.

  97. @J.Ross
    OT -- Black corrections officers were precluded from duties which would have brought them near prisoner Derek Chauvin. Maybe it was to protect their sensibilities. Maybe it was to protect Chauvin. Anyway now a judge has ruled that it's racial discrimination and they can try to get one and a half million dollars.
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/officers-color-barred-guarding-derek-chauvin-15-million/story?id=88239864

    Replies: @I, Libertine

    Fine comment. But it wasn’t OT.

  98. @EddieSpaghetti
    @Jack D

    JackD wrote:


    "Whores at least do it for the money. I have the feeling that Eddie[Spaghetti] is giving out freebies to Putin and Xi just for the thrill of it."
     
    Not your best work here Jack. In fact, it's a really weird comment. Still, it's better than any comment you have ever made about Ukraine. Speaking of Ukraine, it appears that the US will attempt to do the same thing for the Taiwanese that it did for the Ukrainians (and for Syria's head chopping rebels). Specifically, help to get a lot of them killed for nothing.

    Due to their strategic locations and histories Taiwan and Ukraine have (manifest?) destinies. Ukraine's destiny is that it will not violate Russia's security concerns. Taiwan's destiny is that it will be de facto unified with China (it is already de jure unified, as recognized by every government on Earth; indeed, even Taiwan's constitution says that Taiwan is a part of China). Taiwan's destiny can be fulfilled in a peaceful and gradual way that allows Taiwan to thrive (which has been going on for many years). Or Taiwan can listen to what the US (privately) tells them to do, i.e. arm themselves to the teeth and try to deny their manifest destiny (like Ukraine did). In which case the same thing will happen to Taiwan that happened to Ukraine.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Manifest destiny is so 19th century.

    Anyway, why isn’t it Cuba’s manifest destiny to be within the American sphere of influence? What about the Baltics and Poland? Who determines what is “manifest”?

    What if the people in those countries aren’t interested in fulfilling their manifest destiny . The attitude of Russian and China toward these countries is exactly the same as that of an abusive ex-husband. “We are destined to be together, babe!” No matter how many times the wife runs away, the ex is always determined to find her.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Jack D

    Jack,

    Your thoughts on the Solomon Islands and all the US and Aus kvetching about the Solomons' relationship with China?

    Countries do have the right to freely enter into alliances and pacts, amirite?

  99. @Corvinus
    @Bardon Kaldian

    "You’ll be happier if you just admit you dislike white European identity."

    To the contrary, I LOVE my Polish, Dutch, and German heritage. The problem is that when I refuse to love it in the way YOU or others tell me to, lest I am designated as "anti-white" or a "race traitor".

    "It’s OK with me, but I find people who try to deny one racial historical culture, in this case whites, right to exist, proudly, on lands they built"

    Whites today do celebrate their history and culture and traditions, again, just not in the manner you demand. As far as on the "lands they built", that is a zealotry. Today's youth, of their own volition and accord, see right through it.

    "and refusing to be ethnically swamped of racially “polluted” by other races they see as aliens- and especially if that miscegenation is promoted by all means available, whites being the target- to be mentally deranged."

    Now you have completely gone off the rails here. You do realize that the Nordics felt that the Alpine and Mediterranean "races" in Europe were also "polluted", right? Furthermore, how does it personally harm YOU if people of their own free will date, mate, and procreate outside of their race? Again, today's youth see right through it. Not because they have been "indoctrinated", but because of their own investigations into race and culture and politics. And having that liberty to do so cuts you to the bone.

    Replies: @rebel yell

    To the contrary, I LOVE my Polish, Dutch, and German heritage.

    You damn well better not say that at a diversity training.
    You come from vile races. The Dutch committed genocide against the Indians in New York. The Germans are guilty of the Holocaust. And the Poles – well, I’m sure they did something evil.
    You must atone for your Western Civilization sins. You must pay reparations. You must forfeit your job so the sacred people of color can have it. You must kneel to people of color and ask forgiveness, which of course will not be given.
    How dare you say you love your heritage! You think you’re not white? For purposes of being hated, you certainly are.

  100. @AndrewR
    @Mark G.


    They found out the majority of blacks didn’t actually want to be equals.
     
    Yes, they found out blacks are much less likely to want equality than whites are. Or to be as charitable as possible to blacks: they found out that blacks tend to define "equality" very differently from whites. To a degree, I sympathize with blacks. On average, they will always have more violent and less pleasant communities than whites, they will always be poorer and have fewer non-athletic non-musical achievements than whites, etc etc. And on some level I think they all know that. I might feel angry too.

    Replies: @rebel yell

    To a degree, I sympathize with blacks. On average, they will always have more violent and less pleasant communities than whites, they will always be poorer and have fewer non-athletic non-musical achievements than whites, etc etc. And on some level I think they all know that.

    True – and the honest, helpful answer we could give blacks is this:
    You can still have a better future for your descendants. You just have to improve your breed – that’s your road forward. Sterilize your criminals and welfare mothers. Reward the talented 10% of blacks and encourage them to have big families. How long did it take the Russian guy to breed tameness into his foxes – 10 generations or so? How long did it take Europeans to breed so much of the impulsive violence and stupidity out of themselves – a few thousand years? If you make eugenics a matter of deliberate policy instead of accidental evolution, it won’t take that long.
    Is there anyone in the black world you could sit down and have that conversation with? Would make an interesting conversation, if you could find even one.

  101. @Janus
    @Truth

    If you are telling the Truth about your score of 988, the thing it shows most clearly is that you were born before 1953, since 1969 was the last year a test-taker could get a score that didn't end in a zero.

    Replies: @D. K., @Truth

    Yeah, you got me, I don’t remember WTF I scored on a useless test 40 years ago.

    • Replies: @D. K.
    @Truth

    "Yeah, you got me, I don’t remember WTF I scored on a useless test 40 years ago."

    Then why did you lie about it?

    "BTW, I rechecked; my score was 988."

    Replies: @Truth

  102. @John Johnson
    @Corvinus

    And here we go again with this phrase. What does “anti-white” even mean? What are the metrics?

    Metrics? Since when does dislike or hatred need metrics?

    Anti-White liberalism entails blaming White people for the world's problems. It is the basis of liberal explanations of inequality.


    “I watched an online Anthro discussion where half the pro-egalitarian side freaked out because they weren’t aware that the left is lying about race. They didn’t know what they were supposed lie about.”
     
    Link please.

    It was years ago. Are you unaware that the social sciences indoctrinate their own students?

    In Anthro 101 books they still teach that Boas debunked the idea that races differ by skull size.
    https://www.livinganthropologically.com/biological-anthropology/human-skulls-boas-head-shape/

    About his perceptions of differences between the races.

    His perceptions? Do you deny that BiDil works?

    Isn't it rather peculiar that the social sciences teach that race has no biological basis and yet BiDil works because of biological differences?

    It also isn't controversial in medicine that races differ by testosterone and estrogen. But that couldn't affect behavior, right? Only in individuals? What are groups of people made of?

    Go take your racial fairy tales somewhere else. You guys dominate the mainstream and can't stand that we have a few websites. What does that say about your beliefs if you find dissent on some obscure website to be so threatening?

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Corvinus

    You avoided these questions. Who creates these standards for what is “anti-white”? Under what authority? Must all white people adhere to this criteria at all time? Why? What happens when white people refuse to abide by that criteria? In your world, is there such thing as a “white purity test”?

  103. @John Johnson
    @Corvinus

    And here we go again with this phrase. What does “anti-white” even mean? What are the metrics?

    Metrics? Since when does dislike or hatred need metrics?

    Anti-White liberalism entails blaming White people for the world's problems. It is the basis of liberal explanations of inequality.


    “I watched an online Anthro discussion where half the pro-egalitarian side freaked out because they weren’t aware that the left is lying about race. They didn’t know what they were supposed lie about.”
     
    Link please.

    It was years ago. Are you unaware that the social sciences indoctrinate their own students?

    In Anthro 101 books they still teach that Boas debunked the idea that races differ by skull size.
    https://www.livinganthropologically.com/biological-anthropology/human-skulls-boas-head-shape/

    About his perceptions of differences between the races.

    His perceptions? Do you deny that BiDil works?

    Isn't it rather peculiar that the social sciences teach that race has no biological basis and yet BiDil works because of biological differences?

    It also isn't controversial in medicine that races differ by testosterone and estrogen. But that couldn't affect behavior, right? Only in individuals? What are groups of people made of?

    Go take your racial fairy tales somewhere else. You guys dominate the mainstream and can't stand that we have a few websites. What does that say about your beliefs if you find dissent on some obscure website to be so threatening?

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Corvinus

    “Metrics? Since when does dislike or hatred need metrics?”

    Dislike of what? Hatred of what? You need to be specific.

    Suppose as a white person I choose to be friends with a black person. Is that anti-white? What am I disliking? What am I hating?

    Suppose as a white person I choose to take a class to learn more about Asian culture. Is that anti-white? What am I disliking? What am I hating?

    “Anti-White liberalism entails blaming White people for the world’s problems. It is the basis of liberal explanations of inequality.”

    So anti-white and anti-white liberalism are the same to you? Ok, how? Anyways, I counter that pro-white or pro-white conservatism entails blaming non-White people, especially Jews, for the world’s problems. See where that goes?

    “It was years ago. Are you unaware that the social sciences indoctrinate their own students?“

    Or perhaps those students make their own decisions about race and filter that you simply disagree with.

    “His perceptions? Do you deny that BiDil works?”

    Let’s be more insightful please.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1687161/

    —It has for some time been taken for granted that racial categories are of use to the physician in assessing the risks of various diseases. The latest genomic science has, however, failed to provide much support for our intuitions about racial categories in medicine. It has been shown generally that there is more genetic diversity within a so-called “racial” cohort than there is difference between 2 such cohorts. Nor does the human genome, in general, show the sorts of radical discontinuities among different racial groups that our commonplace intuitions would call for; instead, we see much more evidence of gradual blending. Craig Venter, who helped produce the first map of the human genome, commented regarding BiDil, “It is disturbing to see reputable scientists and physicians even categorizing things in terms of race.… There is no basis in the genetic code for race.”10 Given the new genomic science, we must at least entertain the hypothesis that our intuitions were shaped, not by true empirical data, but in large part by vestiges of now-discredited biological theories of race, while acknowledging that most physicians today are not consciously racist nor intend racial discrimination.

    The present defenders of BiDil have admitted that race is a poor scientific prop upon which to base the efficacy of a drug. They insist that eventually we will find the true genetic basis of the differential response to this medication; at that later date, some form of pharmacogenetic screening test will presumably identify all the patients, of whatever race, who will benefit from the drug

    A recent review of genomic science by a group of social scientists offered the conclusions that we must continue to do research on race in medicine, because whatever its biological basis (or lack of same), race remains a very important social construct, and as such, it has tremendous power to influence health and illness. For example, some heart diseases may afflict African Americans more than whites because of the chronic stresses associated with being a member of a minority group rather than because of genetic factors. Simply eliminating race as a variable in medical research would undermine our ability to detect these factors and can therefore hardly be helpful in reducing the serious disparities that remain a problem in American medicine. At the same time we must actively avoid the intellectual trap of assuming that disease incidence disparities among racial or ethnic groups are rooted in genetic differences. We also must not assume that small effects may be attributable to sociocultural variables and that large effects always signal a biologic or genetic basis.—

    “It also isn’t controversial in medicine that races differ by testosterone and estrogen”

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13685530903071802

    —It remains uncertain if, at any given age, one ethnic group has significantly different T than another. Possibly ethnic differences occur at some ages but not others. Studies to date do not include men below the age of 20, if that. The course of T from puberty to old age, while generally known, has not been described with precision. The causes of individual variation in T, beyond age, adolescent maturation and adiposity, are not well known. My analysis improves methodological transparency, provides more precise findings, and introduces sociological variables uncommon in the medical literature.—

    “In Anthro 101 books they still teach that Boas debunked the idea that races differ by skull size.”

    Yeah about that.

    https://www.psu.edu/news/research/story/boas-bones-and-race/

    “What does that say about your beliefs if you find dissent on some obscure website to be so threatening?”

    That is a straw man on your part.

  104. @Truth
    @Janus

    Yeah, you got me, I don't remember WTF I scored on a useless test 40 years ago.

    Replies: @D. K.

    “Yeah, you got me, I don’t remember WTF I scored on a useless test 40 years ago.”

    Then why did you lie about it?

    “BTW, I rechecked; my score was 988.”

    • Replies: @Truth
    @D. K.

    https://cdn.quotesgram.com/img/54/85/1456360794-do-i-contradict-myself-walt-whitman.png

    Replies: @D. K.

  105. @D. K.
    @Truth

    "Yeah, you got me, I don’t remember WTF I scored on a useless test 40 years ago."

    Then why did you lie about it?

    "BTW, I rechecked; my score was 988."

    Replies: @Truth

    • Replies: @D. K.
    @Truth

    So, you are gay, too? That explains the shameless lying....

    Replies: @Truth

  106. @Truth
    @D. K.

    https://cdn.quotesgram.com/img/54/85/1456360794-do-i-contradict-myself-walt-whitman.png

    Replies: @D. K.

    So, you are gay, too? That explains the shameless lying….

    • Replies: @Truth
    @D. K.

    (...Wink).

  107. @Dan Korbel
    That’s a stupid chess analogy. I’m guessing Drake was an old guy (60+) who thought his analogy was brilliant.

    Old people have nothing interesting to say because they have nothing interesting to think. They just regurgitate irrelevant knowledge or personal anecdotes or banal ideas because, well, what else do they have to try and be interesting??

    The sad part is they’re not even aware of it. They’re kind of like the old guy wearing a toupee or dying his hair, or like the faded beauty trying to look sexy again by wearing clothes appropriate to a teen. 🤮

    In society people start to become invisible by about the age of 50. They should just accept this fact and not be like the ghost desperate to make others aware of his presence by making noises. Just move on and don’t disturb the living, old people.

    Peace out ✌🏼

    Replies: @D. K., @Luddite in Chief, @Alden, @throtler

    I suggest you watch the movie WILD IN THE STREETS.

  108. @D. K.
    @Truth

    So, you are gay, too? That explains the shameless lying....

    Replies: @Truth

    (…Wink).

  109. @Jack D
    @EddieSpaghetti

    Manifest destiny is so 19th century.

    Anyway, why isn't it Cuba's manifest destiny to be within the American sphere of influence? What about the Baltics and Poland? Who determines what is "manifest"?

    What if the people in those countries aren't interested in fulfilling their manifest destiny . The attitude of Russian and China toward these countries is exactly the same as that of an abusive ex-husband. "We are destined to be together, babe!" No matter how many times the wife runs away, the ex is always determined to find her.

    Replies: @Anon

    Jack,

    Your thoughts on the Solomon Islands and all the US and Aus kvetching about the Solomons’ relationship with China?

    Countries do have the right to freely enter into alliances and pacts, amirite?

  110. @Moses
    @anon

    I guess “non-Whites inherit the earth” by pulling down Whites is a victory of sorts, although a Pyrrhic one.

    Rhodesia, South Africa, Baltimore, Detroit all slipped from prosperous, orderly societies right down the violent corrupt sh*thole after Blacks took over. But no White man, so yay!

    Replies: @Art Deco

    South Africa was not an orderly society under the ancien regime. Neither South Africa nor Rhodesia were particularly prosperous in 1970. South Africa then as now has a meh standard of living. Rhodesia was poorer. About 70% of greater Baltimore and 85% of greater Detroit is outside city limits and not notably dangerous.

    • Replies: @Moses
    @Art Deco

    War is peace.
    Freedom is slavery.
    Ignorance is strength.

    PS - You forgot Wakanda.

  111. @Deep Thought

    .. it exhaustively analyses every individual move the piece could make and declares each move to be sinister and evil...
     
    I can feel your pain!!! ;-D

    That is EXACTLY what the white neo-conmen and lieberals (sic) do with regard to the Chinese!!!

    It seems that the Chinese and the "white nationalists" have common enemies-- but they are NOT the Blacks!

    Replies: @Deep Thought

    Why is my post 113 still “awaiting moderation?”

  112. @Art Deco
    @Moses

    South Africa was not an orderly society under the ancien regime. Neither South Africa nor Rhodesia were particularly prosperous in 1970. South Africa then as now has a meh standard of living. Rhodesia was poorer. About 70% of greater Baltimore and 85% of greater Detroit is outside city limits and not notably dangerous.

    Replies: @Moses

    War is peace.
    Freedom is slavery.
    Ignorance is strength.

    PS – You forgot Wakanda.

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