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There’s a big brouhaha over a Washington Post article by Taylor Lorenz revealing the identity of the obscure lady who runs the popular Twitter account @LibsOfTikTok. Apparently, people send her links to the most fashionably demented videos people post to Tik Tok and she curates an entertaining selection.

Printing her name and linking to her address in the Washington Post add nothing to the story but are effective pour encourager les autres: if you are thinking about having a pro-Republican anonymous social media account where you post true stuff, remember what Jeff Bezos’s newspaper did to this other person who tried that?

Meanwhile, another example of doxxing is getting less publicity. On Monday I linked to Justice Sotomayor’s dissent in which she was angry that a white man was allowed to serve on a jury despite him answering truthfully. Justice Sotomayor wrote:

Prior to trial, prospective members of the jury filled out a questionnaire that included the following questions:

“68. Do you sometimes personally harbor bias against members of certain races or ethnic groups?

“69. Do you believe that some races and/or ethnic groups tend to be more violent than others?”

To the first question, No. 68, the prospective juror at issue answered, “No.” But to the second question, No. 69, he answered, “Yes.” He explained that “[s]tatistics show more violent crimes are committed by certain races. I believe in statistics.”

That this citizen told the truth made Sotomayor very mad. But at least Sotomayor didn’t doxx the juror.

But Slate and a couple of other publications did. In his article “A Racist Juror Helped Send a Black Man to Death Row. Why Doesn’t SCOTUS Care?” Mark Joseph Stern printed the name of the juror, a completely obscure private citizen. So, for the rest of the poor guy’s life, his name entered into a search engine will bring up Stern’s foaming at the mouth article.

 
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  1. So, for the rest of the poor guy’s life

    Hours, days, or weeks?

    For once I think tit-for-tat should apply: Dox the doxxers. Whoever was in on it should have their private email, social media, etc, opened up and shared by retrogrades who believe in simple fairness.

    • Agree: anonymouseperson
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Franz

    Doxxing the doxxers: VDare's Jason Kessler, our man in Charlottesville, has been doing just that, Franz. Here are 4 articles in which this is exactly what he did:

    "DOXING THE DOXERS: Half-Egyptian Rich Kid SPLC Enforcer Michael Edison Hayden Is A Weirdo. What Else Is New?"

    "DOXING THE DOXERS: HuffPo’s Christopher Mathias Another Spoiled Rich Brat Targeting Ordinary Americans."

    "Doxing the Doxers: Leftist Enforcer Jared Holt, Up Close and Personal—A Few Things He’d Prefer You Not To Know"

    "Doxing The Doxers: Antifa’s War Against Regular Americans Is Run By Spoiled Rich Kids".

    I've read all of these, and let me tell you, those ctrl-left doxxers are some nasty pieces of work.

    What our side really needs is a mole in the NSA who can find out anything on anyone.

    Replies: @Paul Mendez

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Franz

    I'm sure the Libs of Tic Tok chick and the Texas juror are annoyed and dismayed at being doxxed. But a Chilean guy named Gonzalo Lira, who was giving counter-narrative reports from Kharkov, was doxxed by the Daily Beast. As a result of the Daily Beast doxxing, he has been kidnapped and murdered by the Ukrainians. https://youtu.be/p-cv1bLDxxo

    But remember, Putin bad, borders good.

    Replies: @Franz

  2. They literally kill people with this stuff, like porn star Mercedes Grabowski, who committed suicide after being threatened with career-ending bad press after she dared to tweet about the total hypocrisy and ineffectiveness of porn industry safety standards and promises of personal freedom.
    ——–
    Globohomo catamite Cuck Dorsey, who has done as much as any other Great Resetter to bring about the mess we’re in, apparently got snuck a hit of acid and announced to the world that he “saw CNN create conflict in Ferguson [Missouri, after the martyrdom of the Gentle Giant] and film it.” What could he have seen that nobody else saw (I’d bet money he was never there, least of all near rioting) and why talk now?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @J.Ross

    I’d bet money he was never there, least of all near rioting

    Jack Dorsey participated in the Ferguson protests for several days.


    Twitter founder Jack Dorsey accused CNN of creating conflict during the Mike Brown protests and riots of 2014. Jack should know. He was there pushing the biggest lie of all — That Mike Brown had his hands up when he was shot dead by St. Louis County Police Officer Darren Wilson.
     
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/04/twitter-founder-jack-dorsey-accuses-cnn-creating-conflict-ferguson-riots-forgets-protested-several-days-promoting-big-lie/

    What is it with Jack Dorsey? Does the right hand not know what the left hand is doing? After the 2020 election, Dorsey admitted it was "a mistake" to have shut down all mention of the Hunter Biden laptop scandal and to block even the link to the New York Post article about it. An innocent little mistake that contributed to the election of Dementia Joe. Was it his "mistake" or an independent decision of his army of woke employees?

    Replies: @PhysicistDave, @J.Ross, @Curle, @Abe, @tyrone, @AndrewR

  3. “68. Do you sometimes personally harbor bias against members of certain races or ethnic groups?”

    How to answer this question? The word “personally” is important. One was to answer is: “No, not personally. My bias is a function of objective statistics about races and ethnic groups.”

    • Agree: Ben tillman
    • LOL: J.Ross
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)


    “68. Do you sometimes personally harbor bias against members of certain races or ethnic groups?”
     
    No, I do it impersonally against them all.
    , @Forbes
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    The first 67 questions were just a warm up to #68 for determining suitability to sit on the jury in the voir dire process.

  4. Even as they punch down to punish dissent, they memory hole terrorism: remember who Frank James is? How about Darrell Brooks? Or the one allowed to go back to his job after spraying and praying in Sacramento?

    • Agree: HammerJack
  5. Podcaster Ethan Klein loses crowdfunding after being denounced as anti-gay.
    For a happy minute there I misread that as Ezra Klein.

    • LOL: JimDandy
  6. Of course, it’s horrible a juror was targeted for abuse. Of course, it will make it impossible to have a jury system. Of course, our children will live in a tyranny.

    So? They’re looking at you and saying, “What are you gonna do about it?”

  7. It’s being claimed that the woman is Haredah, which would make a lot of sense, but also generates the nonsense in this tweet about how the Haredi community has been seduced (like blacks, and East Asians, and, lately, Hispanics before them) by white supremacism.
    https://postimg.cc/CBcXhXV3

  8. I’m shocked that a man called Mark Joseph Stern would behave like a despicable PoS.

    (Physiognomy checks out though…)

  9. Mark Joseph Stern is a truly evil bastard for doing that.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Peter Johnson

    Is a tapeworm evil? Is a virus evil?

  10. Replace with

    Do you sometimes personally harbor bias against members of certain races or ethnic groups?
    “Do you thinking the U.S. Is Controlled by “Straight White Men”

    And see how the survey results are interpreted.

  11. 1)why wont Slate just edit out the juror’s name now? or memory hole the article?

    2) Could we have legislation enacted to protect jurors identities?

    • Agree: anonymouseperson
    • Replies: @anonymouseperson
    @houston 1992

    This should be a SERIOUS criminal offence.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @houston 1992

    houston, I am currently waiting to have my name called as a juror. Why can't legislation be passed that shields jurors from having their names available to the public?

    Replies: @HammerJack

  12. @J.Ross
    They literally kill people with this stuff, like porn star Mercedes Grabowski, who committed suicide after being threatened with career-ending bad press after she dared to tweet about the total hypocrisy and ineffectiveness of porn industry safety standards and promises of personal freedom.
    --------
    Globohomo catamite Cuck Dorsey, who has done as much as any other Great Resetter to bring about the mess we're in, apparently got snuck a hit of acid and announced to the world that he "saw CNN create conflict in Ferguson [Missouri, after the martyrdom of the Gentle Giant] and film it." What could he have seen that nobody else saw (I'd bet money he was never there, least of all near rioting) and why talk now?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    I’d bet money he was never there, least of all near rioting

    Jack Dorsey participated in the Ferguson protests for several days.

    Twitter founder Jack Dorsey accused CNN of creating conflict during the Mike Brown protests and riots of 2014. Jack should know. He was there pushing the biggest lie of all — That Mike Brown had his hands up when he was shot dead by St. Louis County Police Officer Darren Wilson.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/04/twitter-founder-jack-dorsey-accuses-cnn-creating-conflict-ferguson-riots-forgets-protested-several-days-promoting-big-lie/

    What is it with Jack Dorsey? Does the right hand not know what the left hand is doing? After the 2020 election, Dorsey admitted it was “a mistake” to have shut down all mention of the Hunter Biden laptop scandal and to block even the link to the New York Post article about it. An innocent little mistake that contributed to the election of Dementia Joe. Was it his “mistake” or an independent decision of his army of woke employees?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @Harry Baldwin

    Harry Baldwin asked:


    What is it with Jack Dorsey? Does the right hand not know what the left hand is doing?
     
    How many mind-altering chemicals has @Jack ingested over the years?

    Do some things have permanent effects?

    I'm making no accusations -- just asking questions.
    , @J.Ross
    @Harry Baldwin

    Wow, I am delighted to be corrected. If I had his money I would find a better hobby than riot tourism. Maybe that's what the hobo beard was about.

    Replies: @Undisclosed

    , @Curle
    @Harry Baldwin

    “What is it with Jack Dorsey?”

    I dunno. Ask your boss why you have to give social proof to anti-white sentiments through the device of diversity training. Think business titans are their own men? Think Bezos is?

    , @Abe
    @Harry Baldwin


    What is it with Jack Dorsey? Does the right hand not know what the left hand is doing?
     
    Reliable sources claim to have seen a man strongly resembling Dorsey working nights at a cinema, where he was fired for splicing cells from pornographic movies into animated kids features. Others claim to have seen the same man working as a banquet waiter at an upscale San Francisco hotel, where he would linger for uncomfortably long stretches next to the cream of mushroom soup. Twitter employees recall Jack often coming into work on Mondays with cuts and bruises on his face, as well as unexplained abrasions on his knuckles. Neither Jack nor his side-hustle artisanal soap business partner, T. Durden, could be reached for comment.
    , @tyrone
    @Harry Baldwin


    What is it with Jack Dorsey?
     
    ........something snapped.......he may become interesting.
    , @AndrewR
    @Harry Baldwin

    There is no way he didn't personally approve that, even if it was under pressure from the uaual suspects.

  13. @Harry Baldwin
    @J.Ross

    I’d bet money he was never there, least of all near rioting

    Jack Dorsey participated in the Ferguson protests for several days.


    Twitter founder Jack Dorsey accused CNN of creating conflict during the Mike Brown protests and riots of 2014. Jack should know. He was there pushing the biggest lie of all — That Mike Brown had his hands up when he was shot dead by St. Louis County Police Officer Darren Wilson.
     
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/04/twitter-founder-jack-dorsey-accuses-cnn-creating-conflict-ferguson-riots-forgets-protested-several-days-promoting-big-lie/

    What is it with Jack Dorsey? Does the right hand not know what the left hand is doing? After the 2020 election, Dorsey admitted it was "a mistake" to have shut down all mention of the Hunter Biden laptop scandal and to block even the link to the New York Post article about it. An innocent little mistake that contributed to the election of Dementia Joe. Was it his "mistake" or an independent decision of his army of woke employees?

    Replies: @PhysicistDave, @J.Ross, @Curle, @Abe, @tyrone, @AndrewR

    Harry Baldwin asked:

    What is it with Jack Dorsey? Does the right hand not know what the left hand is doing?

    How many mind-altering chemicals has @Jack ingested over the years?

    Do some things have permanent effects?

    I’m making no accusations — just asking questions.

  14. Taylor Lorenz has said publicly that she almost committed suicide when she was criticized on social media.

    Sometimes people should carry through on what they resolve to do.

    Some human lives do not have value.

    • LOL: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Technite78
    @PhysicistDave


    Taylor Lorenz has said publicly that she almost committed suicide
     
    Yeah, I'm also guessing that her usage of "almost" in this case is a bit stretched for dramatic effect.
    , @Dmon
    @PhysicistDave

    Sorry for the slight tangent, but regarding the value of human life in general, all is proceeding according to plan. The Masters of the Universe don't even try to conceal their identity.
    https://nationalfile.com/wef-advisor-yuval-harari-ponders-how-world-will-deal-with-useless-people/

    , @tyrone
    @PhysicistDave


    Some human lives do not have value.
     
    .....Chinese prison wardens beg to differ.
  15. During voir dire, [the juror] doubled down on his beliefs

    Doubling down is one of those terms that may seem neutral on its face, but in modern discourse has become negative. From common usage, it seems to mean “to insist on a course of action despite knowing it is wrong”.

    Printing her name and linking to her address in the Washington Post add nothing to the story but are effective pour encourager les autres

    For liberals who argue that cancelling isn’t a real phenomena and the few people who lost their livelihoods truly deserve it, this is their true motivation, not that they would admit it. The vast majority of censorship that occurs in public discourse is self-imposed.

    • Replies: @JackOH
    @ScarletNumber


    The vast majority of censorship that occurs in public discourse is self-imposed.
     
    True dat, plus there are variations that may be called "encouraged" censorship, or maybe something like "consensual" censorship.

    We recently had a celebrity doc speak here. He bills at $50-$200 thousand per appearance, and part of his fee was paid for by a local health care-related do-gooder foundation. Contrary to established practice, audience questions were barred, and the interlocutor, a non-journalist medical doctor, tossed only puffball questions his way. The message was clear that pesky questions about America's miserable pandemic performance were not to be entertained.

    , @Jack D
    @ScarletNumber


    During voir dire, [the juror] doubled down on his beliefs
     
    In a totalitarian state, you are not supposed to double down on your WRONG beliefs, you are supposed to repent your sins and beg forgiveness.

    The mistake that this juror made was being truthful. As any Russian can tell you, in any dealings with a totalitarian state you are expected to lie. Everybody lies under such a regime - the state lies to you, you lie to them, it's all lies up and down the line.

    When you see a questionnaire like this, it's quite obvious what answers they are seeking. If you really wanted to serve on this jury (maybe in order to see to it that the family of Kendra Hatcher receives justice), give them what they want - just check the "right" box and move on. If questioned then double down on your CORRECT beliefs. PC beliefs are so idiotic that even an AI bot can reproduce them. "Well, race does not exist in the first place, so how could it even be possible for one "race" to be more violent than another "race"?

    If you display correct beliefs then you not only should but you MUST double down, triple down, as many X down on these beliefs as necessary to tamp down the cognitive dissonance. When Steve tweeted the murder stats for blacks vs. whites, others tweeted back , "Well, that was MURDER, it doesn't prove that blacks are more VIOLENT." It's like the Putinists - you are never going to convince these folks no matter what facts you present to them because their beliefs are quasi-religious and not rooted in fact.

    Replies: @Greta Handel, @Jonathan Mason, @Dumbo, @ScarletNumber

  16. @Harry Baldwin
    @J.Ross

    I’d bet money he was never there, least of all near rioting

    Jack Dorsey participated in the Ferguson protests for several days.


    Twitter founder Jack Dorsey accused CNN of creating conflict during the Mike Brown protests and riots of 2014. Jack should know. He was there pushing the biggest lie of all — That Mike Brown had his hands up when he was shot dead by St. Louis County Police Officer Darren Wilson.
     
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/04/twitter-founder-jack-dorsey-accuses-cnn-creating-conflict-ferguson-riots-forgets-protested-several-days-promoting-big-lie/

    What is it with Jack Dorsey? Does the right hand not know what the left hand is doing? After the 2020 election, Dorsey admitted it was "a mistake" to have shut down all mention of the Hunter Biden laptop scandal and to block even the link to the New York Post article about it. An innocent little mistake that contributed to the election of Dementia Joe. Was it his "mistake" or an independent decision of his army of woke employees?

    Replies: @PhysicistDave, @J.Ross, @Curle, @Abe, @tyrone, @AndrewR

    Wow, I am delighted to be corrected. If I had his money I would find a better hobby than riot tourism. Maybe that’s what the hobo beard was about.

    • Replies: @Undisclosed
    @J.Ross

    Dude, I say this as a friend. You really need to chill. I don't mean in what you write but I can read between the lines and you're way too high strung and unhappy right now. Take good advice when you see it.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  17. @Franz

    So, for the rest of the poor guy’s life
     
    Hours, days, or weeks?

    For once I think tit-for-tat should apply: Dox the doxxers. Whoever was in on it should have their private email, social media, etc, opened up and shared by retrogrades who believe in simple fairness.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Hypnotoad666

    Doxxing the doxxers: VDare’s Jason Kessler, our man in Charlottesville, has been doing just that, Franz. Here are 4 articles in which this is exactly what he did:

    “DOXING THE DOXERS: Half-Egyptian Rich Kid SPLC Enforcer Michael Edison Hayden Is A Weirdo. What Else Is New?”

    “DOXING THE DOXERS: HuffPo’s Christopher Mathias Another Spoiled Rich Brat Targeting Ordinary Americans.”

    “Doxing the Doxers: Leftist Enforcer Jared Holt, Up Close and Personal—A Few Things He’d Prefer You Not To Know”

    “Doxing The Doxers: Antifa’s War Against Regular Americans Is Run By Spoiled Rich Kids”.

    I’ve read all of these, and let me tell you, those ctrl-left doxxers are some nasty pieces of work.

    What our side really needs is a mole in the NSA who can find out anything on anyone.

    • Thanks: Undisclosed, HammerJack, Franz
    • Replies: @Paul Mendez
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The problem is that doxxing leftists doesn’t accomplish much, unless you can uncover their saying or doing something deemed “problematic” by other leftists.

    Conservatives are rarely able to cancel leftists, and few are mentally ill enough to actually harm them. Snarky tweets and dank memes are the worst doxxed leftists must endure.

  18. In his article “A Racist Juror Helped Send a Black Man to Death Row. Why Doesn’t SCOTUS Care?”

    The comments on the Slate article are surprisingly informed. A lot of people pointing out the fact that the juror simply stated what is objectively true. Not sure if those commenters are people going there because of mentions on sites like this, or if those are actual regular Slate readers.

    Mark Joseph Stern printed the name of the juror, a completely obscure private citizen.

    Surprisingly, it looks like his social media accounts are still up. I wonder if he has yet realized the shit show he is in for.

    Mark Joseph Stern is a staff writer covering courts and the law for Slate Magazine … His areas of expertise include LGBTQ+ equality, reproductive rights, criminal justice, U.S. territorial law, and Supreme Court jurisprudence … He and his husband have one rescue dog, Lucy, and three adopted parakeets: Limoncello, Lorenzo, and Bianca.

    Imagine that, a gay Jew making a career out of being neurotic agitator. Of course, he and his husband have an obvious interest in reproductive rights, I can understand his interest in that.

    • Replies: @Undisclosed
    @Jon

    Take the gay out of it and you've got my gameplan.

    , @Art Deco
    @Jon

    He's not neurotic. He's malicious.

    , @Twinkie
    @Jon


    He and his husband have one rescue dog, Lucy, and three adopted parakeets: Limoncello, Lorenzo, and Bianca.
     
    That poor dog.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @HammerJack

  19. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    "68. Do you sometimes personally harbor bias against members of certain races or ethnic groups?"

    How to answer this question? The word "personally" is important. One was to answer is: "No, not personally. My bias is a function of objective statistics about races and ethnic groups."

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Forbes

    “68. Do you sometimes personally harbor bias against members of certain races or ethnic groups?”

    No, I do it impersonally against them all.

  20. They do this to make it appear that the harm of being your average liberal lemming and someone who knows better look the same. The goal is to knock you down several pegs to the point of where you might as well have lived like a liberal your whole life. Leftists do indeed get harmed constantly by their own doing, not that will change anything. But they’d rather try and ruin the lives of people who vocally don’t do what they do, to make the consequences look like a wash.

    I don’t believe that there is still a rich insulated liberal class anymore. That may have been true a generation ago, but anyone left in that category would be in a much tinier cohort, and would be a LOT richer (as in ruling class).

    Look at all the dogshit terrible advice our lovely government has given people for the last thirty years, the last three in particular. Its a recipe for abject poverty, for starters, which is why I think upper class liberal bled off a while ago. They finally get to be the real deal now, I guess.

    Imagine your average eighteen year old mush brain take out a five-figure student loan and dabble on marijuana and xanax in college for muh anxiety issues. Then they end having a rehab stint for fentanyl addiction shortly after. Now imagine the parents divorced long before this, and that they both got away relatively light by only having ten thousand dollars each going to some slimy lawyer. At least one ends up trying to pay for a child’s rehab too. This is not a creator of family wealth.

    For teenage girls, hooking up with some black and being a single mother with a halfrican before senior graduation essentially signs you over to poverty for life.

    These are not made-up situations. In fact its quite common.

    The vast majority of our young people in the US wipeout before they even turn twenty now. And it had nothing to do with angering the state. In a lot of cases they were well within the overton window, if not outright encouraged to do the things they did.

    Anyone who doesn’t do these things is inevitably going to be in a lot better shape, but its getting harder to disseminate that information. In the case of the jury thing, I imagine its going to escalate from where you can be successful silently in this country to overt questioning by the state to see if you agree with them or not. I don’t even know what I’d do at that stage.

    • Replies: @Thoughts
    @Carthage Underground

    You just described a distant portion of my family (not genetically related)

    Once middle class, now the kids of the arsehat divorced parents are clawing to trailer trash status

    , @Art Deco
    @Carthage Underground

    For teenage girls, hooking up with some black and being a single mother with a halfrican before senior graduation essentially signs you over to poverty for life.

    Not a smart move, but not decisive.


    These are not made-up situations. In fact its quite common.

    They're not.


    The vast majority of our young people in the US wipeout before they even turn twenty now.

    They don't.

  21. But at least Sotomayor didn’t doxx the juror.

    But Slate and a couple of other publications did.

    There is a good chance a Sotomayor staffer was Slate’s source in doxxing the juror’s name. I am sure the wise Latina would have approved.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Barnard

    "doxxing"

    From here on out the next doxxing story will include a better looking chick than the Taylor goblin and some mention of my nude frolics in public spaces otherwise it doesn't warrant a second of Art Deco's attention.

    , @James B. Shearer
    @Barnard

    "There is a good chance a Sotomayor staffer was Slate’s source in doxxing the juror’s name. I am sure the wise Latina would have approved."

    The juror's name appears in the defendant's appeal to the Supreme Court which is available on the Court's website. The lower court opinion is also available on the web and contains this gem:

    "After he was booked into the Dallas County Jail on a capital murder charge Appellant called his girlfriend who asked him why he would keep the gun. Appellant responded, "I don't know, man. Stupid as fuck." She later said, "If you shot that girl with that gun, you should've . . . [thrown] it away or something." Appellant replied, "I know, man, I know. Too late now though.""

  22. Slate! Whudda surprise! Slate (like Vox, The Gray Rag and WaPo) consists of True Believers. Move along folks, nothing new here.

  23. I would think the court would take interest in this evil and hand out some consequences.

    Or is the rot that deep?

  24. They did this here in Utah, when some hacker released a list of people who had donated to (the now officially (and actually) innocent) Kyle Rittenhouse’s defense fund. A paramedic used his government email account to donate ten whole dollars to Rittenhouse’s defense fund, and ABC 4 News – the worst rated TV news in the Salt Lake market – showed up at his house to interrogate him. No one answered the door, but they still showed his house on television.

    Another famous incident was the gay, batshit crazy Pennsylvania state legislator from Philadelphia who harassed a mother and her 13 and 15 year old daughters who were protesting at an abortion clinic and asked his Twitter viewers to find out their names and addresses.

    If it had been me I would have punched them in the face. These people are encouraging violence against us, and it’s time to respond in kind.

  25. @PhysicistDave
    Taylor Lorenz has said publicly that she almost committed suicide when she was criticized on social media.

    Sometimes people should carry through on what they resolve to do.

    Some human lives do not have value.

    Replies: @Technite78, @Dmon, @tyrone

    Taylor Lorenz has said publicly that she almost committed suicide

    Yeah, I’m also guessing that her usage of “almost” in this case is a bit stretched for dramatic effect.

  26. WashPo Journo Taylor Lorenz Turns On NBC For Defending Her!?!

    Apr 19, 2022

    Washington Post “journalist” Taylor Lorenz has made a career of exposing allegedly improper behavior online, so she must understand that facing criticism on social media is just the cost of doing her business, right? Not exactly. After granting NBC a tearful interview talking about the suffering she’s experienced, and then experiencing additional pushback online for her blubbering, Lorenz has now turned on NBC for granting her the platform to complain after she faced EVEN MORE online criticism.

    Jimmy speaks with journalist Michael Tracey about the comically self-unaware hypocrisy exhibited by Lorenz.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1516411216276738064

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @MEH 0910

    People who name their daughters "Taylor" are likely to be statisically shallower than most-- and that's saying something in this environment. That's a clue to her upbringing. The only notable female Taylor before this century was pop novelist Taylor Caldwell. (Who would have crossed paths with George Patton in some of their many past lives, so there's that.)

    Is Taylor the white Shaniqua? Or would that be Peyton? The white DeShawn is Colton.


    BTW, everybody wish a Happy Hitler's Birthday to all the other gay control freaks out there!

    Replies: @Anonymous

  27. @MEH 0910
    WashPo Journo Taylor Lorenz Turns On NBC For Defending Her!?!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZcuWWbqXpo
    Apr 19, 2022

    Washington Post “journalist” Taylor Lorenz has made a career of exposing allegedly improper behavior online, so she must understand that facing criticism on social media is just the cost of doing her business, right? Not exactly. After granting NBC a tearful interview talking about the suffering she’s experienced, and then experiencing additional pushback online for her blubbering, Lorenz has now turned on NBC for granting her the platform to complain after she faced EVEN MORE online criticism.

    Jimmy speaks with journalist Michael Tracey about the comically self-unaware hypocrisy exhibited by Lorenz.
     
    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1516367760745455619

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Reg Cæsar

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @MEH 0910

    I suspect that behaviors of "journalists" have become particularly vicious, because of the rise of social media, the increasing ideological polarization, the prominence of personal branding, etc.

    But there is also another dynamic. In the past, most journalists were rather blue collar-ish and workman-like. Journalism wasn't a particularly glamorous or elite profession and it required a lot of leg work and dealing with the dregs of society.

    Now, however, journalists like to think of themselves as a part of the meritocratic elite and the arbiters of good taste in society. Yet, they are still not - income-wise - elites in any sense of that word. So they appear to suffer from what David Brooks once called the status-income disequilibrium: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status%E2%80%93income_disequilibrium


    Status–income disequilibrium (sometimes abbreviated SID) occurs when a desirable high status job has a relatively low income. It is a variation on the sociological term status inconsistency. The phrase was coined by The New York Times columnist David Brooks in his 1996 article "The Tragedy of SID". He wrote:

    The sufferers of this malady, have jobs that give them high status but low income. They lunch on an expense account at The Palm, but dine at home on macaroni. All day long the phone-message slips pile up on their desks—calls from famous people seeking favors—but at night they realize the tub needs scrubbing, so it's down on the hands and knees with the Ajax. At work they are aristocrats, Kings of the Meritocracy, schmoozing with Felix Rohatyn. At home they are peasants, wondering if they can really afford to have orange juice every morning.[1]
     
    David Brooks characterized the "sufferers" from SID in a long list, which includes TV news producers, museum curators, classical music performers, White House aides, and politicians, among others. Other journalists applied the term to "authors and academics",[2] journalists,[3] writers,[4] "British middle classes",[5] and even to the British MPs.[6]
     
    This tends to make the sufferers of SID, just as journalists, at once arrogant and resentful and makes them prone to vicious, self-serving behaviors while engaging in self-pity and sympathy-seeking.

    By the way, the opposite of SID is ISD - income-status disequilibrium, e.g. a master plumber or even a dentist who has a high income, but low social status ("nobody").

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Anonymous

  28. @ScarletNumber

    During voir dire, [the juror] doubled down on his beliefs
     
    Doubling down is one of those terms that may seem neutral on its face, but in modern discourse has become negative. From common usage, it seems to mean "to insist on a course of action despite knowing it is wrong".

    Printing her name and linking to her address in the Washington Post add nothing to the story but are effective pour encourager les autres
     
    For liberals who argue that cancelling isn't a real phenomena and the few people who lost their livelihoods truly deserve it, this is their true motivation, not that they would admit it. The vast majority of censorship that occurs in public discourse is self-imposed.

    Replies: @JackOH, @Jack D

    The vast majority of censorship that occurs in public discourse is self-imposed.

    True dat, plus there are variations that may be called “encouraged” censorship, or maybe something like “consensual” censorship.

    We recently had a celebrity doc speak here. He bills at \$50-\$200 thousand per appearance, and part of his fee was paid for by a local health care-related do-gooder foundation. Contrary to established practice, audience questions were barred, and the interlocutor, a non-journalist medical doctor, tossed only puffball questions his way. The message was clear that pesky questions about America’s miserable pandemic performance were not to be entertained.

    • Thanks: ScarletNumber
    • Troll: Je Suis Omar Mateen
  29. Is it really doxxing when the guy’s name was actually in the Supreme Court decision? It’s mean, petty, and vile, but not actually doxxing.

    Lorenz published the address of the Libs of Tik Tok lady and stalked her relatives. That’s doxxing.

    • Agree: Undisclosed
    • Replies: @Roger
    @Paperback Writer

    The juror name is not in the Supreme Court opinion by Sotomayor. It is not in the Texas appellate decision either. It could be in the briefs, I did not check.

    The juror name has been published by CNN, CBS, and other news sources.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer, @Paperback Writer

  30. The Slate article about the juror says:

    On Monday, the Supreme Court turned away an appeal from a Black man named Kristopher Love, whose death sentence was tainted by a juror’s racism….

    It just occurred to me that the other 11, presumably non-racist (or they would have objected) jurors agreed with the “racist” and also voted to impose the death penalty, so maybe Kristopher Love’s REAL problem is not racist jurors but that he killed someone and now has to answer for it.

    The whole idea that a case is “tainted” because 1 juror is somehow flawed is ridiculous. If that juror is “tainted”, then disregard his vote and the other 11 jurors still agree, so crank up Old Sparky anyway. We have a ridiculous system in America where we supposedly have a death penalty but we never carry it out or only after decades because we have set up these impossible shit tests where you can never get to the point where you can actually carry out the penalty that is on the books. In recent years the more conservative S. Ct. has taken to turning down these ridiculous endless cert petitions. Sometime the same guy will appeal his sentence 5 or 6 times and if he’s lucky die of old age while his case is still “in the courts”.

    Here is the Texas Dept. of Corrections summary for Mr. Love:

    Prior Occupation
    Aspiring Rapper Unknown

    Prior Prison Record
    12 arrests involving 6 violent offenses–Twice X/Tennessee on an indeterminate sentence for Evade Arrest/Detention, Reckless Injury With Weapon and for Aggravated Robbery

    Summary of Incident
    On September 2, 2015, Kristopher Love robbed, shot, and killed a pediatric dentist in Dallas.

    Co-Defendants
    Brenda Delgado and Crystal Cortes

    Race and Gender of Victim
    White female (I will “dox” her – her name was Kendra Hatcher.)

    Actually, this was not a simple robbery. Hatcher had a new boyfriend who had an obsessive ex, Brenda Delgado. She hired Love to ambush and kill Hatcher. He was a contract killer.

    Texas agreed not to seek the death penalty against Delgado as part of the deal to extradite her from Mexico, where she had fled after being let out on bail. Instead she got life without parole.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Jack D

    Jack, first thank you for the follow up and yes the death sentence in this country is a hoax. Life without parole does not mean what I thought it meant, in the sense that the perp never can be set free. Former California Gov. Jerry Brown, pardoned or commuted the sentences of a number of murderers. Not paroled, but commuted or pardoned, who knew?

    Replies: @HammerJack

    , @Pop Warner
    @Jack D


    whose death sentence was tainted by a juror’s racism…
     
    Slate committed libel against the juror, and they should be sued into bankruptcy. Of course, the courts threw out objectivity years ago, but they should really be hurt for that.
    , @obwandiyag
    @Jack D

    What if 11, or 12, or 13, or 300 like in ancient Rome, jurors all agree that an innocent man is guilty and sentence him to die?

    You would probably love it.

    You people are vile as well as stupid.

  31. Our great cultural problem is that the people in control of our major institutions insist everyone conduct themselves according to the rules and assumptions of an alternate reality that does not exist because they find the world as it is intolerable. In large part this is because all the social engineering of the last 60 years that were supposed to birth this alternate reality into existence have failed, so being out of actual solutions we are supposed to participate in a tissue of lies in which they are the arbiters of what is right and just and what must be punished.

  32. @Jack D
    The Slate article about the juror says:

    On Monday, the Supreme Court turned away an appeal from a Black man named Kristopher Love, whose death sentence was tainted by a juror’s racism....
     
    It just occurred to me that the other 11, presumably non-racist (or they would have objected) jurors agreed with the "racist" and also voted to impose the death penalty, so maybe Kristopher Love's REAL problem is not racist jurors but that he killed someone and now has to answer for it.

    The whole idea that a case is "tainted" because 1 juror is somehow flawed is ridiculous. If that juror is "tainted", then disregard his vote and the other 11 jurors still agree, so crank up Old Sparky anyway. We have a ridiculous system in America where we supposedly have a death penalty but we never carry it out or only after decades because we have set up these impossible shit tests where you can never get to the point where you can actually carry out the penalty that is on the books. In recent years the more conservative S. Ct. has taken to turning down these ridiculous endless cert petitions. Sometime the same guy will appeal his sentence 5 or 6 times and if he's lucky die of old age while his case is still "in the courts".

    Here is the Texas Dept. of Corrections summary for Mr. Love:

    Prior Occupation
    Aspiring Rapper Unknown

    Prior Prison Record
    12 arrests involving 6 violent offenses--Twice X/Tennessee on an indeterminate sentence for Evade Arrest/Detention, Reckless Injury With Weapon and for Aggravated Robbery

    Summary of Incident
    On September 2, 2015, Kristopher Love robbed, shot, and killed a pediatric dentist in Dallas.

    Co-Defendants
    Brenda Delgado and Crystal Cortes

    Race and Gender of Victim
    White female (I will "dox" her - her name was Kendra Hatcher.)

    Actually, this was not a simple robbery. Hatcher had a new boyfriend who had an obsessive ex, Brenda Delgado. She hired Love to ambush and kill Hatcher. He was a contract killer.

    Texas agreed not to seek the death penalty against Delgado as part of the deal to extradite her from Mexico, where she had fled after being let out on bail. Instead she got life without parole.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Pop Warner, @obwandiyag

    Jack, first thank you for the follow up and yes the death sentence in this country is a hoax. Life without parole does not mean what I thought it meant, in the sense that the perp never can be set free. Former California Gov. Jerry Brown, pardoned or commuted the sentences of a number of murderers. Not paroled, but commuted or pardoned, who knew?

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Buffalo Joe

    The risks of going slumming are endless and sometimes fatal. This poor guy probably had absolutely no clue why he was being murdered. His wife just had a problematic ex.

    https://mol.im/a/10733163

  33. @ScarletNumber

    During voir dire, [the juror] doubled down on his beliefs
     
    Doubling down is one of those terms that may seem neutral on its face, but in modern discourse has become negative. From common usage, it seems to mean "to insist on a course of action despite knowing it is wrong".

    Printing her name and linking to her address in the Washington Post add nothing to the story but are effective pour encourager les autres
     
    For liberals who argue that cancelling isn't a real phenomena and the few people who lost their livelihoods truly deserve it, this is their true motivation, not that they would admit it. The vast majority of censorship that occurs in public discourse is self-imposed.

    Replies: @JackOH, @Jack D

    During voir dire, [the juror] doubled down on his beliefs

    In a totalitarian state, you are not supposed to double down on your WRONG beliefs, you are supposed to repent your sins and beg forgiveness.

    The mistake that this juror made was being truthful. As any Russian can tell you, in any dealings with a totalitarian state you are expected to lie. Everybody lies under such a regime – the state lies to you, you lie to them, it’s all lies up and down the line.

    When you see a questionnaire like this, it’s quite obvious what answers they are seeking. If you really wanted to serve on this jury (maybe in order to see to it that the family of Kendra Hatcher receives justice), give them what they want – just check the “right” box and move on. If questioned then double down on your CORRECT beliefs. PC beliefs are so idiotic that even an AI bot can reproduce them. “Well, race does not exist in the first place, so how could it even be possible for one “race” to be more violent than another “race”?

    If you display correct beliefs then you not only should but you MUST double down, triple down, as many X down on these beliefs as necessary to tamp down the cognitive dissonance. When Steve tweeted the murder stats for blacks vs. whites, others tweeted back , “Well, that was MURDER, it doesn’t prove that blacks are more VIOLENT.” It’s like the Putinists – you are never going to convince these folks no matter what facts you present to them because their beliefs are quasi-religious and not rooted in fact.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
    @Jack D


    As any Russian can tell you,
     

    It’s like the Putinists
     
    You, sir, seem increasingly obsessed.

    {#20}

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Jack D

    When you see a questionnaire like this, it’s quite obvious what answers they are seeking.

    It is a bit like the question in the US naturalization application about whether you have even engaged in prostitution.

    If you answered "yes" to this question, it could be considered to be an indication of what the US calls 'moral turpitude' and your application, while not disqualified, could be put on hold for 3-5 years to allow for a period of repentance and rehabilitation to make yourself morally cleansed and worthy of being a US citizen.

    Therefore, while immigration attorneys no doubt tell their clients to tell the truth, I doubt whether they actively exhort their clients to dig deep into their memories for any peccadillo.

    The same might apply to the jury question about whether you have ever been sexually abused, which came up in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial. If you want to serve on a jury so that you can play your part in sending a rich Jewish sexual abuser to hell, you are probably going to answer 'no' to this question.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Bill Jones

    , @Dumbo
    @Jack D

    You are obsessed with Russians, bringing them up on any subject whatsoever.

    This is about a (Jewish?) WaPo writer doxxing anti-liberals, not about "putinists."

    Seek help!

    , @ScarletNumber
    @Jack D


    As any Russian can tell you, in any dealings with a totalitarian state you are expected to lie. Everybody lies under such a regime – the state lies to you, you lie to them, it’s all lies up and down the line.
     
    The American education system works exactly the same way. They humiliate you by forcing you to say things that aren't true.
  34. Anonymous[295] • Disclaimer says:

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/21/21-5050/183341/20210709085109546_Love%20Petition.pdf

    The jurors name is in this SCOTUS document on a Government website, no?

    • Replies: @Wilmingtonian
    @Anonymous

    So the real doxxer is this murderer-for-hire's lawyer, eh?

    That would be one John Tatum, who signed that selfsame pleading with what I assume is a business address of XXX ..., and Texas state bar number 19672500? Been practicing since 1974, according to the Texas state bar, which would put him in his 70s at least. Maybe he's too senile to know what he did, and it was some eager young intern. Or maybe he's a Boomer true believer, who knows.

    More generally, courts are enamored of the idea that there's some First Amendment right to know everything that happens in a court proceeding unless the judge seals it for some super important reason. Yet another dippy progressive conceit that might have made sense in a (largely imaginary) past where a man's word was his bond and everyone recognized the value of a man's candor and his stern adherence to duty. In reality, appeals to sunlight as the best disinfectant were always just one more selectively applied way to enable mob action in service of The Current Thing.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  35. Anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:

    Mark Joseph Stern printed the name of the juror, a completely obscure private citizen.

    Can someone please clarify something?

    When a prospective juror fills out a questionnaire in the US, do the answers they give become a matter of public record? It certainly sounds that way.

  36. “68. Do you sometimes personally harbor bias against members of certain races or ethnic groups?

    Another way of saying this is “Are you a human being?”

    “69. Do you believe that some races and/or ethnic groups tend to be more violent than others?”

    You mean like how the media evidently think white men are predisposed to be more violent than other groups?

    So, for the rest of the poor guy’s life, his name entered into a search engine will bring up Stern’s foaming at the mouth article.

    Eastern Standard Time. The guy is just a kulak to Stern. A disposable member of a class slated for liquidation. A casual googling of his name reveals that Stern (who is homosexual – of course) is kind of the Taylor Lorenz of the legal profession.

    And in any article mentioning the odious Taylor Lorenz, it bears repeating this immutable fact: That Taylor Lorenz is a total piece of human garbage.

    • Agree: Polistra
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Mr. Anon


    That Taylor Lorenz is a total piece of human garbage.
     
    Agreed, Mr. Anon, but you lost me with "Eastern Standard Time". Is that an expression?

    Replies: @Wilmingtonian, @Polistra

  37. @Jack D
    @ScarletNumber


    During voir dire, [the juror] doubled down on his beliefs
     
    In a totalitarian state, you are not supposed to double down on your WRONG beliefs, you are supposed to repent your sins and beg forgiveness.

    The mistake that this juror made was being truthful. As any Russian can tell you, in any dealings with a totalitarian state you are expected to lie. Everybody lies under such a regime - the state lies to you, you lie to them, it's all lies up and down the line.

    When you see a questionnaire like this, it's quite obvious what answers they are seeking. If you really wanted to serve on this jury (maybe in order to see to it that the family of Kendra Hatcher receives justice), give them what they want - just check the "right" box and move on. If questioned then double down on your CORRECT beliefs. PC beliefs are so idiotic that even an AI bot can reproduce them. "Well, race does not exist in the first place, so how could it even be possible for one "race" to be more violent than another "race"?

    If you display correct beliefs then you not only should but you MUST double down, triple down, as many X down on these beliefs as necessary to tamp down the cognitive dissonance. When Steve tweeted the murder stats for blacks vs. whites, others tweeted back , "Well, that was MURDER, it doesn't prove that blacks are more VIOLENT." It's like the Putinists - you are never going to convince these folks no matter what facts you present to them because their beliefs are quasi-religious and not rooted in fact.

    Replies: @Greta Handel, @Jonathan Mason, @Dumbo, @ScarletNumber

    As any Russian can tell you,

    It’s like the Putinists

    You, sir, seem increasingly obsessed.

    {#20}

    • Agree: Polistra
  38. @Harry Baldwin
    @J.Ross

    I’d bet money he was never there, least of all near rioting

    Jack Dorsey participated in the Ferguson protests for several days.


    Twitter founder Jack Dorsey accused CNN of creating conflict during the Mike Brown protests and riots of 2014. Jack should know. He was there pushing the biggest lie of all — That Mike Brown had his hands up when he was shot dead by St. Louis County Police Officer Darren Wilson.
     
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/04/twitter-founder-jack-dorsey-accuses-cnn-creating-conflict-ferguson-riots-forgets-protested-several-days-promoting-big-lie/

    What is it with Jack Dorsey? Does the right hand not know what the left hand is doing? After the 2020 election, Dorsey admitted it was "a mistake" to have shut down all mention of the Hunter Biden laptop scandal and to block even the link to the New York Post article about it. An innocent little mistake that contributed to the election of Dementia Joe. Was it his "mistake" or an independent decision of his army of woke employees?

    Replies: @PhysicistDave, @J.Ross, @Curle, @Abe, @tyrone, @AndrewR

    “What is it with Jack Dorsey?”

    I dunno. Ask your boss why you have to give social proof to anti-white sentiments through the device of diversity training. Think business titans are their own men? Think Bezos is?

    • Agree: Ben tillman
  39. Whites still believe in the fantasy that the other side should play by the old rules. They don’t, and they won’t.

    They hate you and want your life destroyed at best, you dead at worst.

    The other side isn’t going to quit. You either fight back or you become a helot. Hand-wringing over doxxing is stupid. Of course, an opponent of the ruling class was doxxed. You don’t get to hide anymore.

    In my own life, I’m trying to get together a core group that have the same beliefs. I’ve also openly cut off neighbors and family who are Woke and anti-white. Make them pay a price. You want to have a “We believe” sign in your yard. Fine. You’re no longer welcome at neighborhood parties. You want to spout anti-white slogans. Fine. You’re no longer welcome at Thanksgiving.

    If that sounds small, you’re wrong. It’s a huge shot across the bows. These people have never had anyone push back, even in a small way. They are stunned. For the first time, they realize that their actions, their words, can cause them trouble.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Goddard
    @Citizen of a Silly Country


    I’ve also openly cut off neighbors and family who are Woke and anti-white.
     
    Great move! You are drawing lines and imposing consequences. I pray I live to see the day when more Americans follow Citizen and play hardball.
    , @Polistra
    @Citizen of a Silly Country


    I’ve also openly cut off neighbors and family who are Woke and anti-white.
     
    This strategy can present an issue of sorts when all your neighbors and family (and friends even) are woke and anti-white. PS isn't that redundant?
  40. Don’t forget the most outrageous large-scale doxx — when The Journal News in 2012 printed the names and addresses of Westchester and Rockland County gun owners. And outraged residents understandably struck back. As NYT reported on the blowback:

    Personal information about editors and writers at the paper has been posted online, including their home addresses and information about where their children attended school; some reporters have received notes saying they would be shot on the way to their cars; bloggers have encouraged people to steal credit card information of Journal News employees; and two packages containing white powder have been sent to the newsroom and a third to a reporter’s home (all were tested by the police and proved to be harmless).

    Awwww, too damn bad, got a taste of their own medicine. (And I’m a former newspaper editor!) While whining about the angry public, the JN continued to insist it had done the right thing. BTW my mostly Republican county laudably refused to supply the gun info.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Known Fact


    The newspaper's editor and vice president, CynDee Royle, said that they had sought to publish even more detailed information to which the counties had denied them access, and the paper sued neighboring Putnam County, which refused to provide similar information.
     
    Emphasis added and speaks for itself. As for the The Journal News, I am happy to report that it is going down the toilet, as is its parent company Gannett, which publishes USA Today. I recently cancelled my subscription to the local Gannett newspaper here in New Jersey and I have to say I don't miss it a bit. They own 10 daily papers in New Jersey and it's amazing how much they repurpose content between papers.
  41. @PhysicistDave
    Taylor Lorenz has said publicly that she almost committed suicide when she was criticized on social media.

    Sometimes people should carry through on what they resolve to do.

    Some human lives do not have value.

    Replies: @Technite78, @Dmon, @tyrone

    Sorry for the slight tangent, but regarding the value of human life in general, all is proceeding according to plan. The Masters of the Universe don’t even try to conceal their identity.
    https://nationalfile.com/wef-advisor-yuval-harari-ponders-how-world-will-deal-with-useless-people/

  42. @Jack D
    @ScarletNumber


    During voir dire, [the juror] doubled down on his beliefs
     
    In a totalitarian state, you are not supposed to double down on your WRONG beliefs, you are supposed to repent your sins and beg forgiveness.

    The mistake that this juror made was being truthful. As any Russian can tell you, in any dealings with a totalitarian state you are expected to lie. Everybody lies under such a regime - the state lies to you, you lie to them, it's all lies up and down the line.

    When you see a questionnaire like this, it's quite obvious what answers they are seeking. If you really wanted to serve on this jury (maybe in order to see to it that the family of Kendra Hatcher receives justice), give them what they want - just check the "right" box and move on. If questioned then double down on your CORRECT beliefs. PC beliefs are so idiotic that even an AI bot can reproduce them. "Well, race does not exist in the first place, so how could it even be possible for one "race" to be more violent than another "race"?

    If you display correct beliefs then you not only should but you MUST double down, triple down, as many X down on these beliefs as necessary to tamp down the cognitive dissonance. When Steve tweeted the murder stats for blacks vs. whites, others tweeted back , "Well, that was MURDER, it doesn't prove that blacks are more VIOLENT." It's like the Putinists - you are never going to convince these folks no matter what facts you present to them because their beliefs are quasi-religious and not rooted in fact.

    Replies: @Greta Handel, @Jonathan Mason, @Dumbo, @ScarletNumber

    When you see a questionnaire like this, it’s quite obvious what answers they are seeking.

    It is a bit like the question in the US naturalization application about whether you have even engaged in prostitution.

    If you answered “yes” to this question, it could be considered to be an indication of what the US calls ‘moral turpitude’ and your application, while not disqualified, could be put on hold for 3-5 years to allow for a period of repentance and rehabilitation to make yourself morally cleansed and worthy of being a US citizen.

    Therefore, while immigration attorneys no doubt tell their clients to tell the truth, I doubt whether they actively exhort their clients to dig deep into their memories for any peccadillo.

    The same might apply to the jury question about whether you have ever been sexually abused, which came up in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial. If you want to serve on a jury so that you can play your part in sending a rich Jewish sexual abuser to hell, you are probably going to answer ‘no’ to this question.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jonathan Mason

    If you answered “yes” to this question, it could be considered to be an indication of what the US calls ‘moral turpitude’ and your application, while not disqualified, could be put on hold for 3-5 years to allow for a period of repentance and rehabilitation to make yourself morally cleansed and worthy of being a US citizen.

    You're worthy of being an American citizen if (1) you've lived here lawfully for the majority of your natural life and (2) you can pass a civics test given in English - with written and oral components and (3) you sign a written statement in front of a magistrate renouncing your previous citizenship (copies to be sent to the consulates of said country and (4) are administered an oath. No this is not required at this time, regrettably.

    , @Bill Jones
    @Jonathan Mason


    could be put on hold for 3-5 years to allow for a period of repentance and rehabilitation to make yourself morally cleansed and worthy of being a US citizen.
     
    Do you have to answer the questions again after the purgatory period? I assume lying in the answer this time around proves you are morally qualified to be an American.
  43. @Jonathan Mason
    @Jack D

    When you see a questionnaire like this, it’s quite obvious what answers they are seeking.

    It is a bit like the question in the US naturalization application about whether you have even engaged in prostitution.

    If you answered "yes" to this question, it could be considered to be an indication of what the US calls 'moral turpitude' and your application, while not disqualified, could be put on hold for 3-5 years to allow for a period of repentance and rehabilitation to make yourself morally cleansed and worthy of being a US citizen.

    Therefore, while immigration attorneys no doubt tell their clients to tell the truth, I doubt whether they actively exhort their clients to dig deep into their memories for any peccadillo.

    The same might apply to the jury question about whether you have ever been sexually abused, which came up in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial. If you want to serve on a jury so that you can play your part in sending a rich Jewish sexual abuser to hell, you are probably going to answer 'no' to this question.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Bill Jones

    If you answered “yes” to this question, it could be considered to be an indication of what the US calls ‘moral turpitude’ and your application, while not disqualified, could be put on hold for 3-5 years to allow for a period of repentance and rehabilitation to make yourself morally cleansed and worthy of being a US citizen.

    You’re worthy of being an American citizen if (1) you’ve lived here lawfully for the majority of your natural life and (2) you can pass a civics test given in English – with written and oral components and (3) you sign a written statement in front of a magistrate renouncing your previous citizenship (copies to be sent to the consulates of said country and (4) are administered an oath. No this is not required at this time, regrettably.

  44. @Jack D
    @ScarletNumber


    During voir dire, [the juror] doubled down on his beliefs
     
    In a totalitarian state, you are not supposed to double down on your WRONG beliefs, you are supposed to repent your sins and beg forgiveness.

    The mistake that this juror made was being truthful. As any Russian can tell you, in any dealings with a totalitarian state you are expected to lie. Everybody lies under such a regime - the state lies to you, you lie to them, it's all lies up and down the line.

    When you see a questionnaire like this, it's quite obvious what answers they are seeking. If you really wanted to serve on this jury (maybe in order to see to it that the family of Kendra Hatcher receives justice), give them what they want - just check the "right" box and move on. If questioned then double down on your CORRECT beliefs. PC beliefs are so idiotic that even an AI bot can reproduce them. "Well, race does not exist in the first place, so how could it even be possible for one "race" to be more violent than another "race"?

    If you display correct beliefs then you not only should but you MUST double down, triple down, as many X down on these beliefs as necessary to tamp down the cognitive dissonance. When Steve tweeted the murder stats for blacks vs. whites, others tweeted back , "Well, that was MURDER, it doesn't prove that blacks are more VIOLENT." It's like the Putinists - you are never going to convince these folks no matter what facts you present to them because their beliefs are quasi-religious and not rooted in fact.

    Replies: @Greta Handel, @Jonathan Mason, @Dumbo, @ScarletNumber

    You are obsessed with Russians, bringing them up on any subject whatsoever.

    This is about a (Jewish?) WaPo writer doxxing anti-liberals, not about “putinists.”

    Seek help!

    • Troll: Undisclosed
  45. Within ten years people will become so used to doxxing (i.e. the millions exposed for holding ideas that left-wingers deem offensive) that they’ll no longer care. The way that it’s now no big deal to interact with someone (a female!) with gangst’a tattoos on their face. Then I’ll out myself as Abolish public education and cut property taxes by 40%.

  46. @Achmed E. Newman
    There's power in numbers. It's a lesson from the 1960s that the alt-right needs to take to heart. The ctrl-left of that day formed a counter-culture.

    1960s left:"Oh, you've got an arrest on your record for rioting and illegal entry while taking over a university building. Haven't we all? Welcome to the party, pal."

    2020s right: "I looked you up. Says you wrote a bunch of racist tweets and are a truther, hoaxer, denier, non-complier ... Welcome to the party, pal."

    The biggest mistakes the people on the right make are not standing up for their own and, as individuals, cucking out and apologizing to begin with. (See my review of Steve King's* book for the worst example I've ever read about.)

    Before we can get through this, one thing we do is line up the HR ladies in front of a ditch.


    .

    * See also Addendum on the Appendix, in which he really cucks out. "But, but, I sponsored a Juneteenth Holiday bill for Iowa! I'm not a racist, I swear to all that's cucky..."

    Replies: @SIMP simp, @Undisclosed

    Most leftist terrorists of the 70’s became university professors and NGO managers while in our times a Proud Boy got 5 years in prison for a fisticuff with antifa. The left controls all major institutions, the right none.
    This type of selective law enforcement is called anarcho-tyranny and has been going on for decades. The consequences for those who follow your advice will be not the same with the consequences for those who burned and looted during the Summer of Peaceful Protests. Stop giving suicidal advice.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @SIMP simp

    While I agree with pretty much your whole take, you either take this advice as a group or die separately. This advice is not suicidal. Nobody is up against the wall yet, Simp, so don't be a simp.

    The Proud Boys is a great example - imagine if 1,000 people had gotten off their asses and their computers to the jailhouse in NY City, to stay and raise hell.

    You become the counter-culture. That means staying away from the Establishment. You leave the aspirations of academia behind. They are the Establishment and they are against us. You leave the Lyin' Press behind. They are the Establishment and they are against us. When it comes to the Corporate world you resist, as a group. 5o people walk out of some woke whiteness-bad seminar, and what are they gonna do, fire you all? Bull. They need us more than we need them.

    When it comes to justice, you go to your local source of justice - your county Sheriff is above other jurisdictions. The pushback as far as law goes is going to start at the State and local levels.

    The Ottawa protest ought to have given us some ideas and a decent amount of hope of how things can go. The first step is to get out of your simpy funk, be a man, and decide how you are going to resist. Otherwise, you deserve your fate.

    Replies: @SIMP simp

  47. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    "68. Do you sometimes personally harbor bias against members of certain races or ethnic groups?"

    How to answer this question? The word "personally" is important. One was to answer is: "No, not personally. My bias is a function of objective statistics about races and ethnic groups."

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Forbes

    The first 67 questions were just a warm up to #68 for determining suitability to sit on the jury in the voir dire process.

  48. @Paperback Writer
    Is it really doxxing when the guy's name was actually in the Supreme Court decision? It's mean, petty, and vile, but not actually doxxing.

    Lorenz published the address of the Libs of Tik Tok lady and stalked her relatives. That's doxxing.

    Replies: @Roger

    The juror name is not in the Supreme Court opinion by Sotomayor. It is not in the Texas appellate decision either. It could be in the briefs, I did not check.

    The juror name has been published by CNN, CBS, and other news sources.

    • Thanks: HammerJack
    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @Roger

    "... It is not in the Texas appellate decision either. .."

    Actually the juror's last name appears briefly. Apparently they have some weird rule in Texas that since the judge gave the defense two extra preemptory challenges that means the judge can wrongfully deny two challenges for cause. So the lower court didn't consider whether the judges refusal to grant a challenge for cause was correct (as they had already determined at most 2 denials were incorrect).

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Roger

    You're right, thanks. She refers to him as "prospective juror" throughout.

    So Stern is more of a punk than I thought. But... I still don't think it's classical doxxing. It's more like doxxing-adjacent, as the kids would say, because Stern didn't publish his address. But these things are easily looked up.

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-5050_3dq3.pdf

  49. “68. Do you sometimes personally harbor bias against members of certain races or ethnic groups?

    “69. Do you believe that some races and/or ethnic groups tend to be more violent than others?”

    To the first question, No. 68, the prospective juror at issue answered, “No.” But to the second question, No. 69, he answered, “Yes.” He explained that “[s]tatistics show more violent crimes are committed by certain races. I believe in statistics.”

    This is fine, obviously, as it is truthful. But the Slate article seems to imply that the juror in question then said something to the effect of “nonwhite races” being “more violent.”

    Did he actually say that? If so, that is inaccurate. East Asians have something like half to quarter the rate of homicide in the U.S. as whites do. If he meant blacks and Hispanics (but Hispanics is an ethnicity, not a race, of course), that’d be truthful. Either way, the article does the scary quotes around “nonwhite race” and “more violent,” but doesn’t quote the entire sentence the juror in question allegedly uttered. Does anyone have more information?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Twinkie

    See?

    , @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    You have to look at this in context. A black guy was on trial. The only "non-white race" anyone was concerned with was blacks. His answer, mentioning "non-white" races, was just a (less than accurate) effort to be polite and not utter the B-word. As we just saw with the NY subway shooter, the honorific title Black must never be sullied by associating it with bad things like violence. Supreme Court Justices are Black, subway shooters are "dark skinned".

    The reason they were asking that specifically (aside from trying to lay little traps for a death penalty appeal) was that the Texas statute lists, as a factor to be considered in imposing the death penalty, whether the defendant is likely to commit violent crime in the future. So arguably, if you are of the belief that blacks are more likely to commit violent crimes, you are more likely to impose the death penalty on blacks than on whites and therefore a racist who has tainted the jury. Notice that nowhere in this little chain of logic does the question of whether blacks are IN FACT more likely to commit violent crimes come into play.

    As you can see from Sotomayor's opinion and from the Slate article, truth is not a defense to the crime of "racism" and "racism" is a felony that makes you ineligible for jury service in their world (while actual felons should be allowed to vote).

    Replies: @Twinkie

  50. @Jack D
    The Slate article about the juror says:

    On Monday, the Supreme Court turned away an appeal from a Black man named Kristopher Love, whose death sentence was tainted by a juror’s racism....
     
    It just occurred to me that the other 11, presumably non-racist (or they would have objected) jurors agreed with the "racist" and also voted to impose the death penalty, so maybe Kristopher Love's REAL problem is not racist jurors but that he killed someone and now has to answer for it.

    The whole idea that a case is "tainted" because 1 juror is somehow flawed is ridiculous. If that juror is "tainted", then disregard his vote and the other 11 jurors still agree, so crank up Old Sparky anyway. We have a ridiculous system in America where we supposedly have a death penalty but we never carry it out or only after decades because we have set up these impossible shit tests where you can never get to the point where you can actually carry out the penalty that is on the books. In recent years the more conservative S. Ct. has taken to turning down these ridiculous endless cert petitions. Sometime the same guy will appeal his sentence 5 or 6 times and if he's lucky die of old age while his case is still "in the courts".

    Here is the Texas Dept. of Corrections summary for Mr. Love:

    Prior Occupation
    Aspiring Rapper Unknown

    Prior Prison Record
    12 arrests involving 6 violent offenses--Twice X/Tennessee on an indeterminate sentence for Evade Arrest/Detention, Reckless Injury With Weapon and for Aggravated Robbery

    Summary of Incident
    On September 2, 2015, Kristopher Love robbed, shot, and killed a pediatric dentist in Dallas.

    Co-Defendants
    Brenda Delgado and Crystal Cortes

    Race and Gender of Victim
    White female (I will "dox" her - her name was Kendra Hatcher.)

    Actually, this was not a simple robbery. Hatcher had a new boyfriend who had an obsessive ex, Brenda Delgado. She hired Love to ambush and kill Hatcher. He was a contract killer.

    Texas agreed not to seek the death penalty against Delgado as part of the deal to extradite her from Mexico, where she had fled after being let out on bail. Instead she got life without parole.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Pop Warner, @obwandiyag

    whose death sentence was tainted by a juror’s racism…

    Slate committed libel against the juror, and they should be sued into bankruptcy. Of course, the courts threw out objectivity years ago, but they should really be hurt for that.

  51. @Twinkie

    “68. Do you sometimes personally harbor bias against members of certain races or ethnic groups?

    “69. Do you believe that some races and/or ethnic groups tend to be more violent than others?”

    To the first question, No. 68, the prospective juror at issue answered, “No.” But to the second question, No. 69, he answered, “Yes.” He explained that “[s]tatistics show more violent crimes are committed by certain races. I believe in statistics.”
     

    This is fine, obviously, as it is truthful. But the Slate article seems to imply that the juror in question then said something to the effect of "nonwhite races" being "more violent."

    Did he actually say that? If so, that is inaccurate. East Asians have something like half to quarter the rate of homicide in the U.S. as whites do. If he meant blacks and Hispanics (but Hispanics is an ethnicity, not a race, of course), that'd be truthful. Either way, the article does the scary quotes around "nonwhite race" and "more violent," but doesn't quote the entire sentence the juror in question allegedly uttered. Does anyone have more information?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Jack D

    See?

  52. @Twinkie

    “68. Do you sometimes personally harbor bias against members of certain races or ethnic groups?

    “69. Do you believe that some races and/or ethnic groups tend to be more violent than others?”

    To the first question, No. 68, the prospective juror at issue answered, “No.” But to the second question, No. 69, he answered, “Yes.” He explained that “[s]tatistics show more violent crimes are committed by certain races. I believe in statistics.”
     

    This is fine, obviously, as it is truthful. But the Slate article seems to imply that the juror in question then said something to the effect of "nonwhite races" being "more violent."

    Did he actually say that? If so, that is inaccurate. East Asians have something like half to quarter the rate of homicide in the U.S. as whites do. If he meant blacks and Hispanics (but Hispanics is an ethnicity, not a race, of course), that'd be truthful. Either way, the article does the scary quotes around "nonwhite race" and "more violent," but doesn't quote the entire sentence the juror in question allegedly uttered. Does anyone have more information?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Jack D

    You have to look at this in context. A black guy was on trial. The only “non-white race” anyone was concerned with was blacks. His answer, mentioning “non-white” races, was just a (less than accurate) effort to be polite and not utter the B-word. As we just saw with the NY subway shooter, the honorific title Black must never be sullied by associating it with bad things like violence. Supreme Court Justices are Black, subway shooters are “dark skinned”.

    The reason they were asking that specifically (aside from trying to lay little traps for a death penalty appeal) was that the Texas statute lists, as a factor to be considered in imposing the death penalty, whether the defendant is likely to commit violent crime in the future. So arguably, if you are of the belief that blacks are more likely to commit violent crimes, you are more likely to impose the death penalty on blacks than on whites and therefore a racist who has tainted the jury. Notice that nowhere in this little chain of logic does the question of whether blacks are IN FACT more likely to commit violent crimes come into play.

    As you can see from Sotomayor’s opinion and from the Slate article, truth is not a defense to the crime of “racism” and “racism” is a felony that makes you ineligible for jury service in their world (while actual felons should be allowed to vote).

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    His answer, mentioning “non-white” races, was just a (less than accurate) effort to be polite and not utter the B-word.
     
    Are you mind-reading again?

    If he said, "nonwhite raceS," presumably he meant more than just blacks. In any case, I don't trust the selective quotes in the Slate article, so I wanted to know if someone had actual extended quotes from the juror.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

  53. @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    You have to look at this in context. A black guy was on trial. The only "non-white race" anyone was concerned with was blacks. His answer, mentioning "non-white" races, was just a (less than accurate) effort to be polite and not utter the B-word. As we just saw with the NY subway shooter, the honorific title Black must never be sullied by associating it with bad things like violence. Supreme Court Justices are Black, subway shooters are "dark skinned".

    The reason they were asking that specifically (aside from trying to lay little traps for a death penalty appeal) was that the Texas statute lists, as a factor to be considered in imposing the death penalty, whether the defendant is likely to commit violent crime in the future. So arguably, if you are of the belief that blacks are more likely to commit violent crimes, you are more likely to impose the death penalty on blacks than on whites and therefore a racist who has tainted the jury. Notice that nowhere in this little chain of logic does the question of whether blacks are IN FACT more likely to commit violent crimes come into play.

    As you can see from Sotomayor's opinion and from the Slate article, truth is not a defense to the crime of "racism" and "racism" is a felony that makes you ineligible for jury service in their world (while actual felons should be allowed to vote).

    Replies: @Twinkie

    His answer, mentioning “non-white” races, was just a (less than accurate) effort to be polite and not utter the B-word.

    Are you mind-reading again?

    If he said, “nonwhite raceS,” presumably he meant more than just blacks. In any case, I don’t trust the selective quotes in the Slate article, so I wanted to know if someone had actual extended quotes from the juror.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Twinkie

    The majority of violent crime in the US is committed by none-Whites.

    The fact that the wily chinee prefers nonviolence doesn't alter the fact that if the question divides the country into Whites and others, the others are more violent.

  54. Wokeism is an ideology that teaches and glorifies hatred directed at non-woke white people. So it should not be too surprising when we see such hateful behavior. These people actually revel in the moral superiority of their cruelty and hatred.

    Most of these woke savages are white, but their wokeness gives them an out. That is, according to the woke belief system, being woke (or becoming a de facto racist “anti-racist”) absolves ordinary whites and even whites with actual privilege of their “sin of whiteness and the sin of their white privilege.”

    It’s an attractive gig, join us and you will get to feel better about yourself. Plus, if it’s your thing, you might even get the chance to wreck some lives or, eventually, even bash some heads. Just make sure that you are cruel to the right people. This will make you special.

  55. @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1516411216276738064

    Replies: @Twinkie

    I suspect that behaviors of “journalists” have become particularly vicious, because of the rise of social media, the increasing ideological polarization, the prominence of personal branding, etc.

    But there is also another dynamic. In the past, most journalists were rather blue collar-ish and workman-like. Journalism wasn’t a particularly glamorous or elite profession and it required a lot of leg work and dealing with the dregs of society.

    Now, however, journalists like to think of themselves as a part of the meritocratic elite and the arbiters of good taste in society. Yet, they are still not – income-wise – elites in any sense of that word. So they appear to suffer from what David Brooks once called the status-income disequilibrium: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status%E2%80%93income_disequilibrium

    Status–income disequilibrium (sometimes abbreviated SID) occurs when a desirable high status job has a relatively low income. It is a variation on the sociological term status inconsistency. The phrase was coined by The New York Times columnist David Brooks in his 1996 article “The Tragedy of SID”. He wrote:

    The sufferers of this malady, have jobs that give them high status but low income. They lunch on an expense account at The Palm, but dine at home on macaroni. All day long the phone-message slips pile up on their desks—calls from famous people seeking favors—but at night they realize the tub needs scrubbing, so it’s down on the hands and knees with the Ajax. At work they are aristocrats, Kings of the Meritocracy, schmoozing with Felix Rohatyn. At home they are peasants, wondering if they can really afford to have orange juice every morning.[1]

    David Brooks characterized the “sufferers” from SID in a long list, which includes TV news producers, museum curators, classical music performers, White House aides, and politicians, among others. Other journalists applied the term to “authors and academics”,[2] journalists,[3] writers,[4] “British middle classes”,[5] and even to the British MPs.[6]

    This tends to make the sufferers of SID, just as journalists, at once arrogant and resentful and makes them prone to vicious, self-serving behaviors while engaging in self-pity and sympathy-seeking.

    By the way, the opposite of SID is ISD – income-status disequilibrium, e.g. a master plumber or even a dentist who has a high income, but low social status (“nobody”).

    • Thanks: HammerJack
    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Twinkie

    https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1516216317048762372

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Anonymous
    @Twinkie

    It's Watergate. Before that journalists had a generally low status. After Watergate they all began thinking of themselves as part of the elite, comparable in status to politicians, judges, etc.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  56. When the ThoughtCrimes Police finally get hold of of the Unz commentator “handle” list, which I’m sure the NSA is already working on, then those knocks on the door will start.

    The good news is that most of us will be permanently barred from jury service.

    That is also the bad news, when the Hate Crimes trials for us begin.

    • Agree: Thea
    • Replies: @SafeNow
    @Muggles


    When the ThoughtCrimes Police finally get hold of of the Unz commentator “handle” list, which I’m sure the NSA is already working on, then those knocks on the door will start
     
    As I have detailed before, Korematsu (group internment) is the law of the land. In Trump v. Hawaii, Korematsu was sufficiently before the court to have been overruled; ah, that magic word, “Overruled!”; more definitive than even a Will Smith slap. But lawful. But the Roberts court weaseled with “overruled by history.” It might be that war with Russia will provide the predicate for triggering the remedy of the wartime Korematsu case. See you at the reeducation camp. I am hoping there is a snack bar. (I try to maintain a sense of humor about this, but it is a serious possibility.)

    Replies: @HammerJack

    , @Polistra
    @Muggles


    When the ThoughtCrimes Police finally get hold of of the Unz commentator “handle” list, which I’m sure the NSA is already working on, then those knocks on the door will start.
     
    I'm not sure how to react to the notion that the NSA doesn't already know the details of everyone who posts here, and anywhere else online.

    You'll be "disappeared" when and where they feel like. But ATM I doubt too many of us are worth the trouble.

    Replies: @Thea

    , @aNewBanner
    @Muggles

    Are you suggesting that the NSA is incompetent? I want a tax refund if the NSA doesn’t already have your Unz commenter information in your permanent file along with your mother’s maiden name, the make and model of your first car, your pet’s names, your favorite sports team, and your sexual fetishes. Hell, Google probably knows that and more.

    What keeps us safe is impotence. We are not a threat to the regime. Furthermore, there is a limit to the power of propaganda to make someone into a threat. The Eye of Soros needs to focus on one individual to trigger the Two Minutes of Hate. The human mind has limited bandwidth. It can only receive so much information. It can process less. It can act on little. The regime can’t cancel all of us because it runs up against the physical limitations of its enforcement mechanism, namely social ostracism by regime friendly allies with the attention span of a chicken.

    Even if we were all known as thought criminals, we would be safe unless our name was randomly chosen as the object of that day’s rage. It would need to be a really slow news day for that to happen. The Eye of Soros barely winks at Steve anymore. The new big thing is, “Dark MAGA”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/what-is-dark-maga-trump-supporters-attempt-rebrand-for-2024/ar-AAWmvkT

    Likely 4chan for the lulz. Still, it will scare my CNN addicted father-in-law.

    Replies: @obwandiyag, @Thea, @Anonymous

  57. @MEH 0910
    WashPo Journo Taylor Lorenz Turns On NBC For Defending Her!?!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZcuWWbqXpo
    Apr 19, 2022

    Washington Post “journalist” Taylor Lorenz has made a career of exposing allegedly improper behavior online, so she must understand that facing criticism on social media is just the cost of doing her business, right? Not exactly. After granting NBC a tearful interview talking about the suffering she’s experienced, and then experiencing additional pushback online for her blubbering, Lorenz has now turned on NBC for granting her the platform to complain after she faced EVEN MORE online criticism.

    Jimmy speaks with journalist Michael Tracey about the comically self-unaware hypocrisy exhibited by Lorenz.
     
    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1516367760745455619

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Reg Cæsar

    People who name their daughters “Taylor” are likely to be statisically shallower than most– and that’s saying something in this environment. That’s a clue to her upbringing. The only notable female Taylor before this century was pop novelist Taylor Caldwell. (Who would have crossed paths with George Patton in some of their many past lives, so there’s that.)

    Is Taylor the white Shaniqua? Or would that be Peyton? The white DeShawn is Colton.

    BTW, everybody wish a Happy Hitler’s Birthday to all the other gay control freaks out there!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    It is one of the worst girls’ names of the last quarter century, but “Lauren” and “Morgan” opened the door for this. There are more freakish examples emerging in the orbit of aspirational media/business women named “Blake” or “Harris.”

  58. Mark Joseph Stern printed the name of the juror, a completely obscure private citizen. So, for the rest of the poor guy’s life, his name entered into a search engine will bring up Stern’s foaming at the mouth article.

    Maybe life would be better if you do *not* have the Mark Joseph Stern people inside your nation?

  59. Amanda Marcotte has the definitive take on this trending story. Even when it has nothing to do with Trump, it’s all about Trump :

    https://www.salon.com/2022/04/20/libs-of-tiktok-the-twitter-took-place/

  60. @Harry Baldwin
    @J.Ross

    I’d bet money he was never there, least of all near rioting

    Jack Dorsey participated in the Ferguson protests for several days.


    Twitter founder Jack Dorsey accused CNN of creating conflict during the Mike Brown protests and riots of 2014. Jack should know. He was there pushing the biggest lie of all — That Mike Brown had his hands up when he was shot dead by St. Louis County Police Officer Darren Wilson.
     
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/04/twitter-founder-jack-dorsey-accuses-cnn-creating-conflict-ferguson-riots-forgets-protested-several-days-promoting-big-lie/

    What is it with Jack Dorsey? Does the right hand not know what the left hand is doing? After the 2020 election, Dorsey admitted it was "a mistake" to have shut down all mention of the Hunter Biden laptop scandal and to block even the link to the New York Post article about it. An innocent little mistake that contributed to the election of Dementia Joe. Was it his "mistake" or an independent decision of his army of woke employees?

    Replies: @PhysicistDave, @J.Ross, @Curle, @Abe, @tyrone, @AndrewR

    What is it with Jack Dorsey? Does the right hand not know what the left hand is doing?

    Reliable sources claim to have seen a man strongly resembling Dorsey working nights at a cinema, where he was fired for splicing cells from pornographic movies into animated kids features. Others claim to have seen the same man working as a banquet waiter at an upscale San Francisco hotel, where he would linger for uncomfortably long stretches next to the cream of mushroom soup. Twitter employees recall Jack often coming into work on Mondays with cuts and bruises on his face, as well as unexplained abrasions on his knuckles. Neither Jack nor his side-hustle artisanal soap business partner, T. Durden, could be reached for comment.

  61. @PhysicistDave
    Taylor Lorenz has said publicly that she almost committed suicide when she was criticized on social media.

    Sometimes people should carry through on what they resolve to do.

    Some human lives do not have value.

    Replies: @Technite78, @Dmon, @tyrone

    Some human lives do not have value.

    …..Chinese prison wardens beg to differ.

    • LOL: Hibernian
  62. Can he sue that PRIC* for doing that? He should be able too. That should be a criminal offence for doing that.

  63. @Muggles
    When the ThoughtCrimes Police finally get hold of of the Unz commentator "handle" list, which I'm sure the NSA is already working on, then those knocks on the door will start.

    The good news is that most of us will be permanently barred from jury service.

    That is also the bad news, when the Hate Crimes trials for us begin.

    Replies: @SafeNow, @Polistra, @aNewBanner

    When the ThoughtCrimes Police finally get hold of of the Unz commentator “handle” list, which I’m sure the NSA is already working on, then those knocks on the door will start

    As I have detailed before, Korematsu (group internment) is the law of the land. In Trump v. Hawaii, Korematsu was sufficiently before the court to have been overruled; ah, that magic word, “Overruled!”; more definitive than even a Will Smith slap. But lawful. But the Roberts court weaseled with “overruled by history.” It might be that war with Russia will provide the predicate for triggering the remedy of the wartime Korematsu case. See you at the reeducation camp. I am hoping there is a snack bar. (I try to maintain a sense of humor about this, but it is a serious possibility.)

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @SafeNow


    I am hoping there is a snack bar. (I try to maintain a sense of humor about this, but it is a serious possibility.)
     
    What, of a snack bar? Awesome snausomes! I'm so there--don't even try elbowing me out of the way.

    The unz.com concentration camp is gonna be lit! The entertainment will be watching J.D. being continuously triggered. Or is it just possible that he'll be the one who turned the rest of us over?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr5Q26E-Esw
  64. @Harry Baldwin
    @J.Ross

    I’d bet money he was never there, least of all near rioting

    Jack Dorsey participated in the Ferguson protests for several days.


    Twitter founder Jack Dorsey accused CNN of creating conflict during the Mike Brown protests and riots of 2014. Jack should know. He was there pushing the biggest lie of all — That Mike Brown had his hands up when he was shot dead by St. Louis County Police Officer Darren Wilson.
     
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/04/twitter-founder-jack-dorsey-accuses-cnn-creating-conflict-ferguson-riots-forgets-protested-several-days-promoting-big-lie/

    What is it with Jack Dorsey? Does the right hand not know what the left hand is doing? After the 2020 election, Dorsey admitted it was "a mistake" to have shut down all mention of the Hunter Biden laptop scandal and to block even the link to the New York Post article about it. An innocent little mistake that contributed to the election of Dementia Joe. Was it his "mistake" or an independent decision of his army of woke employees?

    Replies: @PhysicistDave, @J.Ross, @Curle, @Abe, @tyrone, @AndrewR

    What is it with Jack Dorsey?

    ……..something snapped…….he may become interesting.

  65. @houston 1992
    1)why wont Slate just edit out the juror's name now? or memory hole the article?

    2) Could we have legislation enacted to protect jurors identities?

    Replies: @anonymouseperson, @Buffalo Joe

    This should be a SERIOUS criminal offence.

  66. @Achmed E. Newman
    There's power in numbers. It's a lesson from the 1960s that the alt-right needs to take to heart. The ctrl-left of that day formed a counter-culture.

    1960s left:"Oh, you've got an arrest on your record for rioting and illegal entry while taking over a university building. Haven't we all? Welcome to the party, pal."

    2020s right: "I looked you up. Says you wrote a bunch of racist tweets and are a truther, hoaxer, denier, non-complier ... Welcome to the party, pal."

    The biggest mistakes the people on the right make are not standing up for their own and, as individuals, cucking out and apologizing to begin with. (See my review of Steve King's* book for the worst example I've ever read about.)

    Before we can get through this, one thing we do is line up the HR ladies in front of a ditch.


    .

    * See also Addendum on the Appendix, in which he really cucks out. "But, but, I sponsored a Juneteenth Holiday bill for Iowa! I'm not a racist, I swear to all that's cucky..."

    Replies: @SIMP simp, @Undisclosed

    “Corporate accounts NINA speaking, just a moment, corporate acoounts NINA speak—-”

  67. @J.Ross
    @Harry Baldwin

    Wow, I am delighted to be corrected. If I had his money I would find a better hobby than riot tourism. Maybe that's what the hobo beard was about.

    Replies: @Undisclosed

    Dude, I say this as a friend. You really need to chill. I don’t mean in what you write but I can read between the lines and you’re way too high strung and unhappy right now. Take good advice when you see it.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Undisclosed

    So you're saying, instead of mocking Dorsey's beard and choice of vista, I should grow a Dorsey beard. I see what you're saying.

  68. @Jon

    In his article “A Racist Juror Helped Send a Black Man to Death Row. Why Doesn’t SCOTUS Care?”
     
    The comments on the Slate article are surprisingly informed. A lot of people pointing out the fact that the juror simply stated what is objectively true. Not sure if those commenters are people going there because of mentions on sites like this, or if those are actual regular Slate readers.

    Mark Joseph Stern printed the name of the juror, a completely obscure private citizen.
     
    Surprisingly, it looks like his social media accounts are still up. I wonder if he has yet realized the shit show he is in for.

    Mark Joseph Stern is a staff writer covering courts and the law for Slate Magazine ... His areas of expertise include LGBTQ+ equality, reproductive rights, criminal justice, U.S. territorial law, and Supreme Court jurisprudence ... He and his husband have one rescue dog, Lucy, and three adopted parakeets: Limoncello, Lorenzo, and Bianca.
     
    Imagine that, a gay Jew making a career out of being neurotic agitator. Of course, he and his husband have an obvious interest in reproductive rights, I can understand his interest in that.

    Replies: @Undisclosed, @Art Deco, @Twinkie

    Take the gay out of it and you’ve got my gameplan.

  69. @Carthage Underground
    They do this to make it appear that the harm of being your average liberal lemming and someone who knows better look the same. The goal is to knock you down several pegs to the point of where you might as well have lived like a liberal your whole life. Leftists do indeed get harmed constantly by their own doing, not that will change anything. But they'd rather try and ruin the lives of people who vocally don't do what they do, to make the consequences look like a wash.


    I don't believe that there is still a rich insulated liberal class anymore. That may have been true a generation ago, but anyone left in that category would be in a much tinier cohort, and would be a LOT richer (as in ruling class).


    Look at all the dogshit terrible advice our lovely government has given people for the last thirty years, the last three in particular. Its a recipe for abject poverty, for starters, which is why I think upper class liberal bled off a while ago. They finally get to be the real deal now, I guess.


    Imagine your average eighteen year old mush brain take out a five-figure student loan and dabble on marijuana and xanax in college for muh anxiety issues. Then they end having a rehab stint for fentanyl addiction shortly after. Now imagine the parents divorced long before this, and that they both got away relatively light by only having ten thousand dollars each going to some slimy lawyer. At least one ends up trying to pay for a child's rehab too. This is not a creator of family wealth.

    For teenage girls, hooking up with some black and being a single mother with a halfrican before senior graduation essentially signs you over to poverty for life.

    These are not made-up situations. In fact its quite common.

    The vast majority of our young people in the US wipeout before they even turn twenty now. And it had nothing to do with angering the state. In a lot of cases they were well within the overton window, if not outright encouraged to do the things they did.

    Anyone who doesn't do these things is inevitably going to be in a lot better shape, but its getting harder to disseminate that information. In the case of the jury thing, I imagine its going to escalate from where you can be successful silently in this country to overt questioning by the state to see if you agree with them or not. I don't even know what I'd do at that stage.

    Replies: @Thoughts, @Art Deco

    You just described a distant portion of my family (not genetically related)

    Once middle class, now the kids of the arsehat divorced parents are clawing to trailer trash status

  70. On a bigger note the Daily Beast just doxxed the location of Gonzalo Lira in Ukraine.

    https://thesaker.is/pray-for-gonzalo-lira/

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Kronos

    I'm sorry, where did they dox him? In the article it mentions that he was in Kyiv at the start of the war. It doesn't seem to narrow it down farther than this. It doesn't give his address. Apparently Gonzalo Lira is his real name. In what sense was he "doxxed"?

    Replies: @Kronos

  71. @Twinkie
    @MEH 0910

    I suspect that behaviors of "journalists" have become particularly vicious, because of the rise of social media, the increasing ideological polarization, the prominence of personal branding, etc.

    But there is also another dynamic. In the past, most journalists were rather blue collar-ish and workman-like. Journalism wasn't a particularly glamorous or elite profession and it required a lot of leg work and dealing with the dregs of society.

    Now, however, journalists like to think of themselves as a part of the meritocratic elite and the arbiters of good taste in society. Yet, they are still not - income-wise - elites in any sense of that word. So they appear to suffer from what David Brooks once called the status-income disequilibrium: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status%E2%80%93income_disequilibrium


    Status–income disequilibrium (sometimes abbreviated SID) occurs when a desirable high status job has a relatively low income. It is a variation on the sociological term status inconsistency. The phrase was coined by The New York Times columnist David Brooks in his 1996 article "The Tragedy of SID". He wrote:

    The sufferers of this malady, have jobs that give them high status but low income. They lunch on an expense account at The Palm, but dine at home on macaroni. All day long the phone-message slips pile up on their desks—calls from famous people seeking favors—but at night they realize the tub needs scrubbing, so it's down on the hands and knees with the Ajax. At work they are aristocrats, Kings of the Meritocracy, schmoozing with Felix Rohatyn. At home they are peasants, wondering if they can really afford to have orange juice every morning.[1]
     
    David Brooks characterized the "sufferers" from SID in a long list, which includes TV news producers, museum curators, classical music performers, White House aides, and politicians, among others. Other journalists applied the term to "authors and academics",[2] journalists,[3] writers,[4] "British middle classes",[5] and even to the British MPs.[6]
     
    This tends to make the sufferers of SID, just as journalists, at once arrogant and resentful and makes them prone to vicious, self-serving behaviors while engaging in self-pity and sympathy-seeking.

    By the way, the opposite of SID is ISD - income-status disequilibrium, e.g. a master plumber or even a dentist who has a high income, but low social status ("nobody").

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Anonymous

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @MEH 0910

    Digital Red Guards - just some poor children until they hang a sign around your neck, parade you around, humiliate you, then beat you to death. All rhetorically and virtually, of course.

    Ah, how I wish some Real DiversityTM loosed upon them!

  72. Wait till Unz commenters get doxxed. Sad to say but I think it might happen some day 🙁

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Thea

    Thea writes
    Wait till Unz commenters get doxxed.

    What makes you think that that hasn't already happened?

    , @Hibernian
    @Thea

    Most likely by a lurking spy, not electronically.

  73. @Jonathan Mason
    @Jack D

    When you see a questionnaire like this, it’s quite obvious what answers they are seeking.

    It is a bit like the question in the US naturalization application about whether you have even engaged in prostitution.

    If you answered "yes" to this question, it could be considered to be an indication of what the US calls 'moral turpitude' and your application, while not disqualified, could be put on hold for 3-5 years to allow for a period of repentance and rehabilitation to make yourself morally cleansed and worthy of being a US citizen.

    Therefore, while immigration attorneys no doubt tell their clients to tell the truth, I doubt whether they actively exhort their clients to dig deep into their memories for any peccadillo.

    The same might apply to the jury question about whether you have ever been sexually abused, which came up in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial. If you want to serve on a jury so that you can play your part in sending a rich Jewish sexual abuser to hell, you are probably going to answer 'no' to this question.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Bill Jones

    could be put on hold for 3-5 years to allow for a period of repentance and rehabilitation to make yourself morally cleansed and worthy of being a US citizen.

    Do you have to answer the questions again after the purgatory period? I assume lying in the answer this time around proves you are morally qualified to be an American.

  74. @Jon

    In his article “A Racist Juror Helped Send a Black Man to Death Row. Why Doesn’t SCOTUS Care?”
     
    The comments on the Slate article are surprisingly informed. A lot of people pointing out the fact that the juror simply stated what is objectively true. Not sure if those commenters are people going there because of mentions on sites like this, or if those are actual regular Slate readers.

    Mark Joseph Stern printed the name of the juror, a completely obscure private citizen.
     
    Surprisingly, it looks like his social media accounts are still up. I wonder if he has yet realized the shit show he is in for.

    Mark Joseph Stern is a staff writer covering courts and the law for Slate Magazine ... His areas of expertise include LGBTQ+ equality, reproductive rights, criminal justice, U.S. territorial law, and Supreme Court jurisprudence ... He and his husband have one rescue dog, Lucy, and three adopted parakeets: Limoncello, Lorenzo, and Bianca.
     
    Imagine that, a gay Jew making a career out of being neurotic agitator. Of course, he and his husband have an obvious interest in reproductive rights, I can understand his interest in that.

    Replies: @Undisclosed, @Art Deco, @Twinkie

    He’s not neurotic. He’s malicious.

  75. @Carthage Underground
    They do this to make it appear that the harm of being your average liberal lemming and someone who knows better look the same. The goal is to knock you down several pegs to the point of where you might as well have lived like a liberal your whole life. Leftists do indeed get harmed constantly by their own doing, not that will change anything. But they'd rather try and ruin the lives of people who vocally don't do what they do, to make the consequences look like a wash.


    I don't believe that there is still a rich insulated liberal class anymore. That may have been true a generation ago, but anyone left in that category would be in a much tinier cohort, and would be a LOT richer (as in ruling class).


    Look at all the dogshit terrible advice our lovely government has given people for the last thirty years, the last three in particular. Its a recipe for abject poverty, for starters, which is why I think upper class liberal bled off a while ago. They finally get to be the real deal now, I guess.


    Imagine your average eighteen year old mush brain take out a five-figure student loan and dabble on marijuana and xanax in college for muh anxiety issues. Then they end having a rehab stint for fentanyl addiction shortly after. Now imagine the parents divorced long before this, and that they both got away relatively light by only having ten thousand dollars each going to some slimy lawyer. At least one ends up trying to pay for a child's rehab too. This is not a creator of family wealth.

    For teenage girls, hooking up with some black and being a single mother with a halfrican before senior graduation essentially signs you over to poverty for life.

    These are not made-up situations. In fact its quite common.

    The vast majority of our young people in the US wipeout before they even turn twenty now. And it had nothing to do with angering the state. In a lot of cases they were well within the overton window, if not outright encouraged to do the things they did.

    Anyone who doesn't do these things is inevitably going to be in a lot better shape, but its getting harder to disseminate that information. In the case of the jury thing, I imagine its going to escalate from where you can be successful silently in this country to overt questioning by the state to see if you agree with them or not. I don't even know what I'd do at that stage.

    Replies: @Thoughts, @Art Deco

    For teenage girls, hooking up with some black and being a single mother with a halfrican before senior graduation essentially signs you over to poverty for life.

    Not a smart move, but not decisive.

    These are not made-up situations. In fact its quite common.

    They’re not.

    The vast majority of our young people in the US wipeout before they even turn twenty now.

    They don’t.

  76. @SIMP simp
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Most leftist terrorists of the 70's became university professors and NGO managers while in our times a Proud Boy got 5 years in prison for a fisticuff with antifa. The left controls all major institutions, the right none.
    This type of selective law enforcement is called anarcho-tyranny and has been going on for decades. The consequences for those who follow your advice will be not the same with the consequences for those who burned and looted during the Summer of Peaceful Protests. Stop giving suicidal advice.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    While I agree with pretty much your whole take, you either take this advice as a group or die separately. This advice is not suicidal. Nobody is up against the wall yet, Simp, so don’t be a simp.

    The Proud Boys is a great example – imagine if 1,000 people had gotten off their asses and their computers to the jailhouse in NY City, to stay and raise hell.

    You become the counter-culture. That means staying away from the Establishment. You leave the aspirations of academia behind. They are the Establishment and they are against us. You leave the Lyin’ Press behind. They are the Establishment and they are against us. When it comes to the Corporate world you resist, as a group. 5o people walk out of some woke whiteness-bad seminar, and what are they gonna do, fire you all? Bull. They need us more than we need them.

    When it comes to justice, you go to your local source of justice – your county Sheriff is above other jurisdictions. The pushback as far as law goes is going to start at the State and local levels.

    The Ottawa protest ought to have given us some ideas and a decent amount of hope of how things can go. The first step is to get out of your simpy funk, be a man, and decide how you are going to resist. Otherwise, you deserve your fate.

    • Agree: Dmon
    • Thanks: Angharad, Right_On
    • Replies: @SIMP simp
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The system is built around a narrative about hidden hordes of racists. Any action that you speak of proves them right and gives the ambitious a chance to gain status by punching a nazi. Remember Charlottesville? The Capitol protest? What do you think it would happen to a major pro-Proud Boys protest in New York City? Lots of provocations from glow feds, huge leftist counter rally, violent antifa bussed from around the country, a hostile police force looking to arrest protestors and judges eager to punish them harshly.
    Democracy is dead and so is justice. Any useful action must be taken either in a well thought manner (e.g. hold the protest in an area with sympathetic politicians and police) or in the shadows. Otherwise you are just making the enemy stronger.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  77. @MEH 0910
    @Twinkie

    https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1516216317048762372

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Digital Red Guards – just some poor children until they hang a sign around your neck, parade you around, humiliate you, then beat you to death. All rhetorically and virtually, of course.

    Ah, how I wish some Real DiversityTM loosed upon them!

    • Agree: kaganovitch
  78. @Jon

    In his article “A Racist Juror Helped Send a Black Man to Death Row. Why Doesn’t SCOTUS Care?”
     
    The comments on the Slate article are surprisingly informed. A lot of people pointing out the fact that the juror simply stated what is objectively true. Not sure if those commenters are people going there because of mentions on sites like this, or if those are actual regular Slate readers.

    Mark Joseph Stern printed the name of the juror, a completely obscure private citizen.
     
    Surprisingly, it looks like his social media accounts are still up. I wonder if he has yet realized the shit show he is in for.

    Mark Joseph Stern is a staff writer covering courts and the law for Slate Magazine ... His areas of expertise include LGBTQ+ equality, reproductive rights, criminal justice, U.S. territorial law, and Supreme Court jurisprudence ... He and his husband have one rescue dog, Lucy, and three adopted parakeets: Limoncello, Lorenzo, and Bianca.
     
    Imagine that, a gay Jew making a career out of being neurotic agitator. Of course, he and his husband have an obvious interest in reproductive rights, I can understand his interest in that.

    Replies: @Undisclosed, @Art Deco, @Twinkie

    He and his husband have one rescue dog, Lucy, and three adopted parakeets: Limoncello, Lorenzo, and Bianca.

    That poor dog.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Twinkie

    He and his husband have one rescue dog, Lucy

    "Rescue" : You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Curle

    , @HammerJack
    @Twinkie

    What gave me pause is the specification that the parakeets are adopted. How retrograde is that? These two need to get with the program. I want to see them delivering parakeets the old-fashioned way, and then "chest feeding" them the way they're supposed to.

    But yeah, I pity the dog too.

  79. @Kronos
    On a bigger note the Daily Beast just doxxed the location of Gonzalo Lira in Ukraine.

    https://thesaker.is/pray-for-gonzalo-lira/

    Replies: @Jack D

    I’m sorry, where did they dox him? In the article it mentions that he was in Kyiv at the start of the war. It doesn’t seem to narrow it down farther than this. It doesn’t give his address. Apparently Gonzalo Lira is his real name. In what sense was he “doxxed”?

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Jack D

    Fair point.

    The Daily Beast essentially lighted up a giant media flare over Gonzalo Lira alerting the Ukrainians that this guy is serious trouble. (Look at the number of views from this recent interview.)

    https://youtu.be/w5RKNoIhE40

    That hit piece (no pun intended😨) marked Lira as a enemy VIP in the ongoing propaganda war in Ukraine. That’s a fairly long article meant both to discredit Lira while simultaneously spiking Lira to near the top of Zelenskyy‘s shit list. They don’t spill that much ink for anyone. If the Ukrainian secret police were looking for him before, they soon brought out the real bloodhounds after that article was published.

    Replies: @Jack D, @AndrewR

  80. @houston 1992
    1)why wont Slate just edit out the juror's name now? or memory hole the article?

    2) Could we have legislation enacted to protect jurors identities?

    Replies: @anonymouseperson, @Buffalo Joe

    houston, I am currently waiting to have my name called as a juror. Why can’t legislation be passed that shields jurors from having their names available to the public?

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Buffalo Joe


    Why can’t legislation be passed that shields jurors from having their names available to the public?
     
    Because the status quo is way too useful to the Ruling Class, as several examples in this thread illustrate.

    I believe the timing of the judge releasing the identities of the Chauvin trial jurors just before the Arbery trial got underway was probably not accidental.
  81. OT: Boudin, SFPD Announce Multiple Felony Charges For 2 Suspected Robbers

    SAN FRANCISCO (CBS SF) – The San Francisco District Attorney and the San Francisco Police Department announced the arrest of two robbery suspects Wednesday who face more than two dozen felony charges.

    On Wednesday morning, District Attorney Chesa Boudin announced that he filed several charges against Steve Levy and Deshawn White, two robbery suspects connected to at least 28 break-ins.

    More: https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2022/04/20/boudin-sfpd-announce-multiple-felony-charges-for-2-suspected-robbers/

    So we have a Jew and a black with the ironic surname of White committing at least 28 break-ins. Although it’s possible that Steve is black and was adopted by the Levy’s. No pic.

  82. @Anonymous
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/21/21-5050/183341/20210709085109546_Love%20Petition.pdf

    The jurors name is in this SCOTUS document on a Government website, no?

    Replies: @Wilmingtonian

    So the real doxxer is this murderer-for-hire’s lawyer, eh?

    That would be one John Tatum, who signed that selfsame pleading with what I assume is a business address of XXX …, and Texas state bar number 19672500? Been practicing since 1974, according to the Texas state bar, which would put him in his 70s at least. Maybe he’s too senile to know what he did, and it was some eager young intern. Or maybe he’s a Boomer true believer, who knows.

    More generally, courts are enamored of the idea that there’s some First Amendment right to know everything that happens in a court proceeding unless the judge seals it for some super important reason. Yet another dippy progressive conceit that might have made sense in a (largely imaginary) past where a man’s word was his bond and everyone recognized the value of a man’s candor and his stern adherence to duty. In reality, appeals to sunlight as the best disinfectant were always just one more selectively applied way to enable mob action in service of The Current Thing.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Wilmingtonian

    Thanks.

    I took out the lawyer's address and phone number because he printed just the juror's number and name, but not his address or phone number.

    Juror candidates are all given numbers and aren't referred to in court by their name. There doesn't seem to be any reason to violate that tradition in filings other than for witness intimidation reasons.

  83. @Twinkie
    @Jon


    He and his husband have one rescue dog, Lucy, and three adopted parakeets: Limoncello, Lorenzo, and Bianca.
     
    That poor dog.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @HammerJack

    He and his husband have one rescue dog, Lucy

    “Rescue” : You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @kaganovitch

    "rescue dog"

    Am I the only one here who thinks Steve's dog looks like a pervert?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Curle
    @kaganovitch

    In the animal shelter context it means a dog that was an stray or surrendered by an human that is available for adoption.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  84. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Whites still believe in the fantasy that the other side should play by the old rules. They don't, and they won't.

    They hate you and want your life destroyed at best, you dead at worst.

    The other side isn't going to quit. You either fight back or you become a helot. Hand-wringing over doxxing is stupid. Of course, an opponent of the ruling class was doxxed. You don't get to hide anymore.

    In my own life, I'm trying to get together a core group that have the same beliefs. I've also openly cut off neighbors and family who are Woke and anti-white. Make them pay a price. You want to have a "We believe" sign in your yard. Fine. You're no longer welcome at neighborhood parties. You want to spout anti-white slogans. Fine. You're no longer welcome at Thanksgiving.

    If that sounds small, you're wrong. It's a huge shot across the bows. These people have never had anyone push back, even in a small way. They are stunned. For the first time, they realize that their actions, their words, can cause them trouble.

    Replies: @Goddard, @Polistra

    I’ve also openly cut off neighbors and family who are Woke and anti-white.

    Great move! You are drawing lines and imposing consequences. I pray I live to see the day when more Americans follow Citizen and play hardball.

  85. @Mr. Anon

    “68. Do you sometimes personally harbor bias against members of certain races or ethnic groups?
     
    Another way of saying this is "Are you a human being?"

    “69. Do you believe that some races and/or ethnic groups tend to be more violent than others?”
     
    You mean like how the media evidently think white men are predisposed to be more violent than other groups?

    So, for the rest of the poor guy’s life, his name entered into a search engine will bring up Stern’s foaming at the mouth article.
     
    Eastern Standard Time. The guy is just a kulak to Stern. A disposable member of a class slated for liquidation. A casual googling of his name reveals that Stern (who is homosexual - of course) is kind of the Taylor Lorenz of the legal profession.

    And in any article mentioning the odious Taylor Lorenz, it bears repeating this immutable fact: That Taylor Lorenz is a total piece of human garbage.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    That Taylor Lorenz is a total piece of human garbage.

    Agreed, Mr. Anon, but you lost me with “Eastern Standard Time”. Is that an expression?

    • Replies: @Wilmingtonian
    @Achmed E. Newman

    E____ S____ Time, a remark upon the ubiquity of certain fact patterns.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Polistra
    @Achmed E. Newman

    EST. Every single......

  86. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Mr. Anon


    That Taylor Lorenz is a total piece of human garbage.
     
    Agreed, Mr. Anon, but you lost me with "Eastern Standard Time". Is that an expression?

    Replies: @Wilmingtonian, @Polistra

    E____ S____ Time, a remark upon the ubiquity of certain fact patterns.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Wilmingtonian

    Thanks, you and Polistra.

  87. Proust said (there I go again) that every man, no matter how wise, has something in his past that he said, or lived in such a way, that it is so painful to think about, that if he could, he would expunge it from memory.

    He is being kind; most people have not one, but several such things. (I am the CEO of that club.) The reason why I would not like to be doxed is not that someone would show up at my door. The reason is that one or more of these truly stupid things done might get out. Proust wrote before media doxing existed, but if it had existed, Proust would have included in his famous quotation the doxing scenario, expanding personal isolated pain to include the pain of public disclosure.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @SafeNow


    He is being kind; most people have not one, but several such things. (I am the CEO of that club.) The reason why I would not like to be doxed is not that someone would show up at my door. The reason is that one or more of these truly stupid things done might get out. Proust wrote before media doxing existed, but if it had existed, Proust would have included in his famous quotation the doxing scenario, expanding personal isolated pain to include the pain of public disclosure.
     
    It amazes me that doxxing and cancelling hasn't resulted in a shooting spree at the soft targets of the regime yet.

    It seems inevitable at this point.
    , @Anonymous
    @SafeNow


    He is being kind; most people have not one, but several such things. (I am the CEO of that club.)
     
    What is an example of one or several such things for you? There are things I regret, but I cannot think of something I would like to expunge from memory.
  88. Stern retweeted this.

    57 years ago, Connecticut went to the Supreme Court to defend her 1879 Comstock law banning the sale or distribution of contraceptives, which prevented Planned Parenthood from setting up shop there. The latter relied on the assistance of the ACLU in getting it overturned.

    Now Messrs Stern and Cohen are crowing about Rep Blumenthal’s effort to have the Consternation State do the full 180°. Those who (and there are many here) decry Jewish corruption of morals yet themselves still defend “a woman’s right to choose” are engaging in Olympic gold-medal-level cognitive dissonance.

    Stern wrote that article himself, so no wonder he retweeted it. What year did “retweet” enter the dictionary? “Rockin’ Robin” (1958) just came over the Muzak. It’s full of retweets.

  89. @Twinkie
    @MEH 0910

    I suspect that behaviors of "journalists" have become particularly vicious, because of the rise of social media, the increasing ideological polarization, the prominence of personal branding, etc.

    But there is also another dynamic. In the past, most journalists were rather blue collar-ish and workman-like. Journalism wasn't a particularly glamorous or elite profession and it required a lot of leg work and dealing with the dregs of society.

    Now, however, journalists like to think of themselves as a part of the meritocratic elite and the arbiters of good taste in society. Yet, they are still not - income-wise - elites in any sense of that word. So they appear to suffer from what David Brooks once called the status-income disequilibrium: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status%E2%80%93income_disequilibrium


    Status–income disequilibrium (sometimes abbreviated SID) occurs when a desirable high status job has a relatively low income. It is a variation on the sociological term status inconsistency. The phrase was coined by The New York Times columnist David Brooks in his 1996 article "The Tragedy of SID". He wrote:

    The sufferers of this malady, have jobs that give them high status but low income. They lunch on an expense account at The Palm, but dine at home on macaroni. All day long the phone-message slips pile up on their desks—calls from famous people seeking favors—but at night they realize the tub needs scrubbing, so it's down on the hands and knees with the Ajax. At work they are aristocrats, Kings of the Meritocracy, schmoozing with Felix Rohatyn. At home they are peasants, wondering if they can really afford to have orange juice every morning.[1]
     
    David Brooks characterized the "sufferers" from SID in a long list, which includes TV news producers, museum curators, classical music performers, White House aides, and politicians, among others. Other journalists applied the term to "authors and academics",[2] journalists,[3] writers,[4] "British middle classes",[5] and even to the British MPs.[6]
     
    This tends to make the sufferers of SID, just as journalists, at once arrogant and resentful and makes them prone to vicious, self-serving behaviors while engaging in self-pity and sympathy-seeking.

    By the way, the opposite of SID is ISD - income-status disequilibrium, e.g. a master plumber or even a dentist who has a high income, but low social status ("nobody").

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Anonymous

    It’s Watergate. Before that journalists had a generally low status. After Watergate they all began thinking of themselves as part of the elite, comparable in status to politicians, judges, etc.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Anonymous

    Before that journalists had a generally low status.

    They did not. See, for example, Dorothy Kilgallen.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Hibernian

  90. @SafeNow
    Proust said (there I go again) that every man, no matter how wise, has something in his past that he said, or lived in such a way, that it is so painful to think about, that if he could, he would expunge it from memory.

    He is being kind; most people have not one, but several such things. (I am the CEO of that club.) The reason why I would not like to be doxed is not that someone would show up at my door. The reason is that one or more of these truly stupid things done might get out. Proust wrote before media doxing existed, but if it had existed, Proust would have included in his famous quotation the doxing scenario, expanding personal isolated pain to include the pain of public disclosure.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Anonymous

    He is being kind; most people have not one, but several such things. (I am the CEO of that club.) The reason why I would not like to be doxed is not that someone would show up at my door. The reason is that one or more of these truly stupid things done might get out. Proust wrote before media doxing existed, but if it had existed, Proust would have included in his famous quotation the doxing scenario, expanding personal isolated pain to include the pain of public disclosure.

    It amazes me that doxxing and cancelling hasn’t resulted in a shooting spree at the soft targets of the regime yet.

    It seems inevitable at this point.

  91. @Twinkie
    @Jon


    He and his husband have one rescue dog, Lucy, and three adopted parakeets: Limoncello, Lorenzo, and Bianca.
     
    That poor dog.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @HammerJack

    What gave me pause is the specification that the parakeets are adopted. How retrograde is that? These two need to get with the program. I want to see them delivering parakeets the old-fashioned way, and then “chest feeding” them the way they’re supposed to.

    But yeah, I pity the dog too.

  92. @Buffalo Joe
    @Jack D

    Jack, first thank you for the follow up and yes the death sentence in this country is a hoax. Life without parole does not mean what I thought it meant, in the sense that the perp never can be set free. Former California Gov. Jerry Brown, pardoned or commuted the sentences of a number of murderers. Not paroled, but commuted or pardoned, who knew?

    Replies: @HammerJack

    The risks of going slumming are endless and sometimes fatal. This poor guy probably had absolutely no clue why he was being murdered. His wife just had a problematic ex.

    https://mol.im/a/10733163

    • Thanks: Buffalo Joe
  93. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Mr. Anon


    That Taylor Lorenz is a total piece of human garbage.
     
    Agreed, Mr. Anon, but you lost me with "Eastern Standard Time". Is that an expression?

    Replies: @Wilmingtonian, @Polistra

    EST. Every single……

  94. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Whites still believe in the fantasy that the other side should play by the old rules. They don't, and they won't.

    They hate you and want your life destroyed at best, you dead at worst.

    The other side isn't going to quit. You either fight back or you become a helot. Hand-wringing over doxxing is stupid. Of course, an opponent of the ruling class was doxxed. You don't get to hide anymore.

    In my own life, I'm trying to get together a core group that have the same beliefs. I've also openly cut off neighbors and family who are Woke and anti-white. Make them pay a price. You want to have a "We believe" sign in your yard. Fine. You're no longer welcome at neighborhood parties. You want to spout anti-white slogans. Fine. You're no longer welcome at Thanksgiving.

    If that sounds small, you're wrong. It's a huge shot across the bows. These people have never had anyone push back, even in a small way. They are stunned. For the first time, they realize that their actions, their words, can cause them trouble.

    Replies: @Goddard, @Polistra

    I’ve also openly cut off neighbors and family who are Woke and anti-white.

    This strategy can present an issue of sorts when all your neighbors and family (and friends even) are woke and anti-white. PS isn’t that redundant?

  95. @Muggles
    When the ThoughtCrimes Police finally get hold of of the Unz commentator "handle" list, which I'm sure the NSA is already working on, then those knocks on the door will start.

    The good news is that most of us will be permanently barred from jury service.

    That is also the bad news, when the Hate Crimes trials for us begin.

    Replies: @SafeNow, @Polistra, @aNewBanner

    When the ThoughtCrimes Police finally get hold of of the Unz commentator “handle” list, which I’m sure the NSA is already working on, then those knocks on the door will start.

    I’m not sure how to react to the notion that the NSA doesn’t already know the details of everyone who posts here, and anywhere else online.

    You’ll be “disappeared” when and where they feel like. But ATM I doubt too many of us are worth the trouble.

    • Replies: @Thea
    @Polistra

    Keeping the noise to signal ratio online high likely has some benefit to its creators( US DOD)


    I’ll admit my own comments contributed to that particular ratio!

  96. @kaganovitch
    @Twinkie

    He and his husband have one rescue dog, Lucy

    "Rescue" : You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Curle

    “rescue dog”

    Am I the only one here who thinks Steve’s dog looks like a pervert?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @SunBakedSuburb

    I'm tempted to ask what that even means but it sounds like an alleyway not worth exploring.

  97. @Barnard

    But at least Sotomayor didn’t doxx the juror.

    But Slate and a couple of other publications did.
     
    There is a good chance a Sotomayor staffer was Slate's source in doxxing the juror's name. I am sure the wise Latina would have approved.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @James B. Shearer

    “doxxing”

    From here on out the next doxxing story will include a better looking chick than the Taylor goblin and some mention of my nude frolics in public spaces otherwise it doesn’t warrant a second of Art Deco’s attention.

  98. @SafeNow
    @Muggles


    When the ThoughtCrimes Police finally get hold of of the Unz commentator “handle” list, which I’m sure the NSA is already working on, then those knocks on the door will start
     
    As I have detailed before, Korematsu (group internment) is the law of the land. In Trump v. Hawaii, Korematsu was sufficiently before the court to have been overruled; ah, that magic word, “Overruled!”; more definitive than even a Will Smith slap. But lawful. But the Roberts court weaseled with “overruled by history.” It might be that war with Russia will provide the predicate for triggering the remedy of the wartime Korematsu case. See you at the reeducation camp. I am hoping there is a snack bar. (I try to maintain a sense of humor about this, but it is a serious possibility.)

    Replies: @HammerJack

    I am hoping there is a snack bar. (I try to maintain a sense of humor about this, but it is a serious possibility.)

    What, of a snack bar? Awesome snausomes! I’m so there–don’t even try elbowing me out of the way.

    The unz.com concentration camp is gonna be lit! The entertainment will be watching J.D. being continuously triggered. Or is it just possible that he’ll be the one who turned the rest of us over?

  99. Anonymous[329] • Disclaimer says:
    @SafeNow
    Proust said (there I go again) that every man, no matter how wise, has something in his past that he said, or lived in such a way, that it is so painful to think about, that if he could, he would expunge it from memory.

    He is being kind; most people have not one, but several such things. (I am the CEO of that club.) The reason why I would not like to be doxed is not that someone would show up at my door. The reason is that one or more of these truly stupid things done might get out. Proust wrote before media doxing existed, but if it had existed, Proust would have included in his famous quotation the doxing scenario, expanding personal isolated pain to include the pain of public disclosure.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Anonymous

    He is being kind; most people have not one, but several such things. (I am the CEO of that club.)

    What is an example of one or several such things for you? There are things I regret, but I cannot think of something I would like to expunge from memory.

  100. @Muggles
    When the ThoughtCrimes Police finally get hold of of the Unz commentator "handle" list, which I'm sure the NSA is already working on, then those knocks on the door will start.

    The good news is that most of us will be permanently barred from jury service.

    That is also the bad news, when the Hate Crimes trials for us begin.

    Replies: @SafeNow, @Polistra, @aNewBanner

    Are you suggesting that the NSA is incompetent? I want a tax refund if the NSA doesn’t already have your Unz commenter information in your permanent file along with your mother’s maiden name, the make and model of your first car, your pet’s names, your favorite sports team, and your sexual fetishes. Hell, Google probably knows that and more.

    What keeps us safe is impotence. We are not a threat to the regime. Furthermore, there is a limit to the power of propaganda to make someone into a threat. The Eye of Soros needs to focus on one individual to trigger the Two Minutes of Hate. The human mind has limited bandwidth. It can only receive so much information. It can process less. It can act on little. The regime can’t cancel all of us because it runs up against the physical limitations of its enforcement mechanism, namely social ostracism by regime friendly allies with the attention span of a chicken.

    Even if we were all known as thought criminals, we would be safe unless our name was randomly chosen as the object of that day’s rage. It would need to be a really slow news day for that to happen. The Eye of Soros barely winks at Steve anymore. The new big thing is, “Dark MAGA”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/what-is-dark-maga-trump-supporters-attempt-rebrand-for-2024/ar-AAWmvkT

    Likely 4chan for the lulz. Still, it will scare my CNN addicted father-in-law.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    @aNewBanner

    They could just secretly blacklist all of us from employment. And we would never know. We would just think it hard to get a job.

    , @Thea
    @aNewBanner

    Anecdotally, Two former math professors work for the NSA. One was a Jewish guy, one of the gentlest kindest people I ever met. The other was a total egomaniacal a*hole. Both were very smart and competent( Jewish guy, much more so.)

    But the agency itself could be a cluster for all I know.

    And I would never reveal their names online because doxxing is for sh*tlibs.

    , @Anonymous
    @aNewBanner

    The saving grace of these social-media pile-ons is that they fade quickly.

    (Who now remembers the puppy-toss marine or the cat bin woman?)

  101. @Buffalo Joe
    @houston 1992

    houston, I am currently waiting to have my name called as a juror. Why can't legislation be passed that shields jurors from having their names available to the public?

    Replies: @HammerJack

    Why can’t legislation be passed that shields jurors from having their names available to the public?

    Because the status quo is way too useful to the Ruling Class, as several examples in this thread illustrate.

    I believe the timing of the judge releasing the identities of the Chauvin trial jurors just before the Arbery trial got underway was probably not accidental.

  102. @Jack D
    @Kronos

    I'm sorry, where did they dox him? In the article it mentions that he was in Kyiv at the start of the war. It doesn't seem to narrow it down farther than this. It doesn't give his address. Apparently Gonzalo Lira is his real name. In what sense was he "doxxed"?

    Replies: @Kronos

    Fair point.

    The Daily Beast essentially lighted up a giant media flare over Gonzalo Lira alerting the Ukrainians that this guy is serious trouble. (Look at the number of views from this recent interview.)

    That hit piece (no pun intended😨) marked Lira as a enemy VIP in the ongoing propaganda war in Ukraine. That’s a fairly long article meant both to discredit Lira while simultaneously spiking Lira to near the top of Zelenskyy‘s shit list. They don’t spill that much ink for anyone. If the Ukrainian secret police were looking for him before, they soon brought out the real bloodhounds after that article was published.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Kronos

    This is not doxing as it is normally understood. They "shone an MSM spotlight on him" which is not the same thing. He apparently WANTED public attention under his real name with his YouTube rants, just not this type of attention. Sorry, you don't get to choose, especially not if you are broadcasting propaganda in an enemy country in the middle of a war. What did he THINK was going to happen? He should have been arrested for stupidity if nothing else.

    Replies: @dalyia, @Kronos

    , @AndrewR
    @Kronos

    I don't want him to be tortured or killed, but obviously he knew that he couldn't be a propagandist for the Russians while living in Ukraine indefinitely.

  103. Is Taylor Lorenz Jewish?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Dream

    Maternal-side grandmother was the daughter of a member of Congress from southern California, graduated from a seven-sisters college and worked as a private school teacher. She was married to Mr. Saalfield and Mr. Macdonald during the course of her life. Mr. Macdonald is Taylor Lorenz' grandfather.

    Her father is a construction company executive born in Ohio, and has precisely the same name as his father.

  104. Anonymous[322] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    @MEH 0910

    People who name their daughters "Taylor" are likely to be statisically shallower than most-- and that's saying something in this environment. That's a clue to her upbringing. The only notable female Taylor before this century was pop novelist Taylor Caldwell. (Who would have crossed paths with George Patton in some of their many past lives, so there's that.)

    Is Taylor the white Shaniqua? Or would that be Peyton? The white DeShawn is Colton.


    BTW, everybody wish a Happy Hitler's Birthday to all the other gay control freaks out there!

    Replies: @Anonymous

    It is one of the worst girls’ names of the last quarter century, but “Lauren” and “Morgan” opened the door for this. There are more freakish examples emerging in the orbit of aspirational media/business women named “Blake” or “Harris.”

  105. @kaganovitch
    @Twinkie

    He and his husband have one rescue dog, Lucy

    "Rescue" : You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Curle

    In the animal shelter context it means a dog that was an stray or surrendered by an human that is available for adoption.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Curle

    I know. It was a joke intending to convey the idea that the dog was better off in the shelter than under the care of Stern.

  106. @Barnard

    But at least Sotomayor didn’t doxx the juror.

    But Slate and a couple of other publications did.
     
    There is a good chance a Sotomayor staffer was Slate's source in doxxing the juror's name. I am sure the wise Latina would have approved.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @James B. Shearer

    “There is a good chance a Sotomayor staffer was Slate’s source in doxxing the juror’s name. I am sure the wise Latina would have approved.”

    The juror’s name appears in the defendant’s appeal to the Supreme Court which is available on the Court’s website. The lower court opinion is also available on the web and contains this gem:

    “After he was booked into the Dallas County Jail on a capital murder charge Appellant called his girlfriend who asked him why he would keep the gun. Appellant responded, “I don’t know, man. Stupid as fuck.” She later said, “If you shot that girl with that gun, you should’ve . . . [thrown] it away or something.” Appellant replied, “I know, man, I know. Too late now though.””

  107. @Curle
    @kaganovitch

    In the animal shelter context it means a dog that was an stray or surrendered by an human that is available for adoption.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    I know. It was a joke intending to convey the idea that the dog was better off in the shelter than under the care of Stern.

  108. @Franz

    So, for the rest of the poor guy’s life
     
    Hours, days, or weeks?

    For once I think tit-for-tat should apply: Dox the doxxers. Whoever was in on it should have their private email, social media, etc, opened up and shared by retrogrades who believe in simple fairness.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Hypnotoad666

    I’m sure the Libs of Tic Tok chick and the Texas juror are annoyed and dismayed at being doxxed. But a Chilean guy named Gonzalo Lira, who was giving counter-narrative reports from Kharkov, was doxxed by the Daily Beast. As a result of the Daily Beast doxxing, he has been kidnapped and murdered by the Ukrainians.

    But remember, Putin bad, borders good.

    • Thanks: J.Ross
    • Replies: @Franz
    @Hypnotoad666


    As a result of the Daily Beast doxxing, he has been kidnapped and murdered by the Ukrainians.
     
    I've been following Gonzalo Lira since all this started, are they sure he's dead? Last word I got was at the UK site where it was still "missing with lots of rumors".

    Absolutely certain the Ukies wanted to kill him though. Hope not.
  109. @Roger
    @Paperback Writer

    The juror name is not in the Supreme Court opinion by Sotomayor. It is not in the Texas appellate decision either. It could be in the briefs, I did not check.

    The juror name has been published by CNN, CBS, and other news sources.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer, @Paperback Writer

    “… It is not in the Texas appellate decision either. ..”

    Actually the juror’s last name appears briefly. Apparently they have some weird rule in Texas that since the judge gave the defense two extra preemptory challenges that means the judge can wrongfully deny two challenges for cause. So the lower court didn’t consider whether the judges refusal to grant a challenge for cause was correct (as they had already determined at most 2 denials were incorrect).

  110. @SunBakedSuburb
    @kaganovitch

    "rescue dog"

    Am I the only one here who thinks Steve's dog looks like a pervert?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    I’m tempted to ask what that even means but it sounds like an alleyway not worth exploring.

    • Agree: Hangnail Hans
  111. @Jack D
    The Slate article about the juror says:

    On Monday, the Supreme Court turned away an appeal from a Black man named Kristopher Love, whose death sentence was tainted by a juror’s racism....
     
    It just occurred to me that the other 11, presumably non-racist (or they would have objected) jurors agreed with the "racist" and also voted to impose the death penalty, so maybe Kristopher Love's REAL problem is not racist jurors but that he killed someone and now has to answer for it.

    The whole idea that a case is "tainted" because 1 juror is somehow flawed is ridiculous. If that juror is "tainted", then disregard his vote and the other 11 jurors still agree, so crank up Old Sparky anyway. We have a ridiculous system in America where we supposedly have a death penalty but we never carry it out or only after decades because we have set up these impossible shit tests where you can never get to the point where you can actually carry out the penalty that is on the books. In recent years the more conservative S. Ct. has taken to turning down these ridiculous endless cert petitions. Sometime the same guy will appeal his sentence 5 or 6 times and if he's lucky die of old age while his case is still "in the courts".

    Here is the Texas Dept. of Corrections summary for Mr. Love:

    Prior Occupation
    Aspiring Rapper Unknown

    Prior Prison Record
    12 arrests involving 6 violent offenses--Twice X/Tennessee on an indeterminate sentence for Evade Arrest/Detention, Reckless Injury With Weapon and for Aggravated Robbery

    Summary of Incident
    On September 2, 2015, Kristopher Love robbed, shot, and killed a pediatric dentist in Dallas.

    Co-Defendants
    Brenda Delgado and Crystal Cortes

    Race and Gender of Victim
    White female (I will "dox" her - her name was Kendra Hatcher.)

    Actually, this was not a simple robbery. Hatcher had a new boyfriend who had an obsessive ex, Brenda Delgado. She hired Love to ambush and kill Hatcher. He was a contract killer.

    Texas agreed not to seek the death penalty against Delgado as part of the deal to extradite her from Mexico, where she had fled after being let out on bail. Instead she got life without parole.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Pop Warner, @obwandiyag

    What if 11, or 12, or 13, or 300 like in ancient Rome, jurors all agree that an innocent man is guilty and sentence him to die?

    You would probably love it.

    You people are vile as well as stupid.

  112. As says:

    I wonder if this is the next cause du jour.

    Objectively, anyone with rightist or conservative views will have more racist views. That is objectively.

    And will be biased against lgbtq people.

    Should such people even be allowed on juries or be allowed to run for office or be allowed yo vote?

  113. @aNewBanner
    @Muggles

    Are you suggesting that the NSA is incompetent? I want a tax refund if the NSA doesn’t already have your Unz commenter information in your permanent file along with your mother’s maiden name, the make and model of your first car, your pet’s names, your favorite sports team, and your sexual fetishes. Hell, Google probably knows that and more.

    What keeps us safe is impotence. We are not a threat to the regime. Furthermore, there is a limit to the power of propaganda to make someone into a threat. The Eye of Soros needs to focus on one individual to trigger the Two Minutes of Hate. The human mind has limited bandwidth. It can only receive so much information. It can process less. It can act on little. The regime can’t cancel all of us because it runs up against the physical limitations of its enforcement mechanism, namely social ostracism by regime friendly allies with the attention span of a chicken.

    Even if we were all known as thought criminals, we would be safe unless our name was randomly chosen as the object of that day’s rage. It would need to be a really slow news day for that to happen. The Eye of Soros barely winks at Steve anymore. The new big thing is, “Dark MAGA”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/what-is-dark-maga-trump-supporters-attempt-rebrand-for-2024/ar-AAWmvkT

    Likely 4chan for the lulz. Still, it will scare my CNN addicted father-in-law.

    Replies: @obwandiyag, @Thea, @Anonymous

    They could just secretly blacklist all of us from employment. And we would never know. We would just think it hard to get a job.

  114. Surprised no one seems to have mentioned Mark Joseph Stern’s last valiant contribution to our national conversation, sending a mob over to Georgetown in an attempt to perform a career defenestration on Ilya Shapiro…

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/poor-misunderstood-mark-joseph-stern/

  115. @Kronos
    @Jack D

    Fair point.

    The Daily Beast essentially lighted up a giant media flare over Gonzalo Lira alerting the Ukrainians that this guy is serious trouble. (Look at the number of views from this recent interview.)

    https://youtu.be/w5RKNoIhE40

    That hit piece (no pun intended😨) marked Lira as a enemy VIP in the ongoing propaganda war in Ukraine. That’s a fairly long article meant both to discredit Lira while simultaneously spiking Lira to near the top of Zelenskyy‘s shit list. They don’t spill that much ink for anyone. If the Ukrainian secret police were looking for him before, they soon brought out the real bloodhounds after that article was published.

    Replies: @Jack D, @AndrewR

    This is not doxing as it is normally understood. They “shone an MSM spotlight on him” which is not the same thing. He apparently WANTED public attention under his real name with his YouTube rants, just not this type of attention. Sorry, you don’t get to choose, especially not if you are broadcasting propaganda in an enemy country in the middle of a war. What did he THINK was going to happen? He should have been arrested for stupidity if nothing else.

    • Agree: AndrewR
    • Replies: @dalyia
    @Jack D

    Can anyone say "Syrian Girl"? I guess this guy just isn't attractive enough.

    , @Kronos
    @Jack D

    Lira wasn't going after the audience of the NYT or CNN. That's largely a lost cause. It's difficult to peel off readers/listeners from those MSM outlets much less obtain subscriptions/donations from them.
    He was providing info to the alternative news arena. Most Daily Beast readers had no idea who he was or what his messaging consisted of. But because the MSM has increasingly become an active propaganda outlet and suppressor of free speech they just couldn't help themselves and scrag another fellow journalist.

    Replies: @Jack D

  116. @Wilmingtonian
    @Anonymous

    So the real doxxer is this murderer-for-hire's lawyer, eh?

    That would be one John Tatum, who signed that selfsame pleading with what I assume is a business address of XXX ..., and Texas state bar number 19672500? Been practicing since 1974, according to the Texas state bar, which would put him in his 70s at least. Maybe he's too senile to know what he did, and it was some eager young intern. Or maybe he's a Boomer true believer, who knows.

    More generally, courts are enamored of the idea that there's some First Amendment right to know everything that happens in a court proceeding unless the judge seals it for some super important reason. Yet another dippy progressive conceit that might have made sense in a (largely imaginary) past where a man's word was his bond and everyone recognized the value of a man's candor and his stern adherence to duty. In reality, appeals to sunlight as the best disinfectant were always just one more selectively applied way to enable mob action in service of The Current Thing.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Thanks.

    I took out the lawyer’s address and phone number because he printed just the juror’s number and name, but not his address or phone number.

    Juror candidates are all given numbers and aren’t referred to in court by their name. There doesn’t seem to be any reason to violate that tradition in filings other than for witness intimidation reasons.

  117. @Undisclosed
    @J.Ross

    Dude, I say this as a friend. You really need to chill. I don't mean in what you write but I can read between the lines and you're way too high strung and unhappy right now. Take good advice when you see it.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    So you’re saying, instead of mocking Dorsey’s beard and choice of vista, I should grow a Dorsey beard. I see what you’re saying.

  118. @Anonymous
    @Twinkie

    It's Watergate. Before that journalists had a generally low status. After Watergate they all began thinking of themselves as part of the elite, comparable in status to politicians, judges, etc.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Before that journalists had a generally low status.

    They did not. See, for example, Dorothy Kilgallen.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Art Deco

    While Dorothy Kilgallen was well-known, it doesn't necessarily follow that she was high status. She was famously despised by Jack Paar and Frank Sinatra and once she started asking too many questions about the death of JFK she herself had an unfortunate incident in November 1965, leading to her death at 52 by acute ethanol and barbiturate intoxication. She got her job because her father was a famous reporter who didn't die until 1982.

    She was probably best known for being the sourpuss on What's My Line?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Art Deco

    , @Hibernian
    @Art Deco

    Exception that proves the rule. She was a star. My Dad, an English major, became a high school teacher in preference to being a reporter for the City News bureau, a jointly owned local news service in Chicago.

  119. @Dream
    Is Taylor Lorenz Jewish?

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Maternal-side grandmother was the daughter of a member of Congress from southern California, graduated from a seven-sisters college and worked as a private school teacher. She was married to Mr. Saalfield and Mr. Macdonald during the course of her life. Mr. Macdonald is Taylor Lorenz’ grandfather.

    Her father is a construction company executive born in Ohio, and has precisely the same name as his father.

  120. Anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:

    Juror candidates are all given numbers and aren’t referred to in court by their name. There doesn’t seem to be any reason to violate that tradition in filings other than for witness intimidation reasons.

    I had not previously viewed the voir dire questionnaire as a potential juror intimidation tool before, but I do now.

    A much wiser friend once told me that courtrooms have nothing to do with justice, but with winning. After reading this, I see what she means.

  121. @Wilmingtonian
    @Achmed E. Newman

    E____ S____ Time, a remark upon the ubiquity of certain fact patterns.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Thanks, you and Polistra.

  122. @Achmed E. Newman
    @SIMP simp

    While I agree with pretty much your whole take, you either take this advice as a group or die separately. This advice is not suicidal. Nobody is up against the wall yet, Simp, so don't be a simp.

    The Proud Boys is a great example - imagine if 1,000 people had gotten off their asses and their computers to the jailhouse in NY City, to stay and raise hell.

    You become the counter-culture. That means staying away from the Establishment. You leave the aspirations of academia behind. They are the Establishment and they are against us. You leave the Lyin' Press behind. They are the Establishment and they are against us. When it comes to the Corporate world you resist, as a group. 5o people walk out of some woke whiteness-bad seminar, and what are they gonna do, fire you all? Bull. They need us more than we need them.

    When it comes to justice, you go to your local source of justice - your county Sheriff is above other jurisdictions. The pushback as far as law goes is going to start at the State and local levels.

    The Ottawa protest ought to have given us some ideas and a decent amount of hope of how things can go. The first step is to get out of your simpy funk, be a man, and decide how you are going to resist. Otherwise, you deserve your fate.

    Replies: @SIMP simp

    The system is built around a narrative about hidden hordes of racists. Any action that you speak of proves them right and gives the ambitious a chance to gain status by punching a nazi. Remember Charlottesville? The Capitol protest? What do you think it would happen to a major pro-Proud Boys protest in New York City? Lots of provocations from glow feds, huge leftist counter rally, violent antifa bussed from around the country, a hostile police force looking to arrest protestors and judges eager to punish them harshly.
    Democracy is dead and so is justice. Any useful action must be taken either in a well thought manner (e.g. hold the protest in an area with sympathetic politicians and police) or in the shadows. Otherwise you are just making the enemy stronger.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @SIMP simp

    I don't know. I've got a feeling we're going to find some of this out though. Right now, they've got another big distraction, the Ukraine/Russia war. At some point, when the people on our side have less to lose - which WILL be the case based on immutable economic laws - there will be more hell-raising.

  123. anonymous[208] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thea
    Wait till Unz commenters get doxxed. Sad to say but I think it might happen some day :(

    Replies: @anonymous, @Hibernian

    Thea writes
    Wait till Unz commenters get doxxed.

    What makes you think that that hasn’t already happened?

  124. @Jack D
    @Kronos

    This is not doxing as it is normally understood. They "shone an MSM spotlight on him" which is not the same thing. He apparently WANTED public attention under his real name with his YouTube rants, just not this type of attention. Sorry, you don't get to choose, especially not if you are broadcasting propaganda in an enemy country in the middle of a war. What did he THINK was going to happen? He should have been arrested for stupidity if nothing else.

    Replies: @dalyia, @Kronos

    Can anyone say “Syrian Girl”? I guess this guy just isn’t attractive enough.

  125. @Known Fact
    Don't forget the most outrageous large-scale doxx -- when The Journal News in 2012 printed the names and addresses of Westchester and Rockland County gun owners. And outraged residents understandably struck back. As NYT reported on the blowback:

    Personal information about editors and writers at the paper has been posted online, including their home addresses and information about where their children attended school; some reporters have received notes saying they would be shot on the way to their cars; bloggers have encouraged people to steal credit card information of Journal News employees; and two packages containing white powder have been sent to the newsroom and a third to a reporter’s home (all were tested by the police and proved to be harmless).
     
    Awwww, too damn bad, got a taste of their own medicine. (And I'm a former newspaper editor!) While whining about the angry public, the JN continued to insist it had done the right thing. BTW my mostly Republican county laudably refused to supply the gun info.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    The newspaper’s editor and vice president, CynDee Royle, said that they had sought to publish even more detailed information to which the counties had denied them access, and the paper sued neighboring Putnam County, which refused to provide similar information.

    Emphasis added and speaks for itself. As for the The Journal News, I am happy to report that it is going down the toilet, as is its parent company Gannett, which publishes USA Today. I recently cancelled my subscription to the local Gannett newspaper here in New Jersey and I have to say I don’t miss it a bit. They own 10 daily papers in New Jersey and it’s amazing how much they repurpose content between papers.

  126. @Peter Johnson
    Mark Joseph Stern is a truly evil bastard for doing that.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Is a tapeworm evil? Is a virus evil?

  127. @Harry Baldwin
    @J.Ross

    I’d bet money he was never there, least of all near rioting

    Jack Dorsey participated in the Ferguson protests for several days.


    Twitter founder Jack Dorsey accused CNN of creating conflict during the Mike Brown protests and riots of 2014. Jack should know. He was there pushing the biggest lie of all — That Mike Brown had his hands up when he was shot dead by St. Louis County Police Officer Darren Wilson.
     
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/04/twitter-founder-jack-dorsey-accuses-cnn-creating-conflict-ferguson-riots-forgets-protested-several-days-promoting-big-lie/

    What is it with Jack Dorsey? Does the right hand not know what the left hand is doing? After the 2020 election, Dorsey admitted it was "a mistake" to have shut down all mention of the Hunter Biden laptop scandal and to block even the link to the New York Post article about it. An innocent little mistake that contributed to the election of Dementia Joe. Was it his "mistake" or an independent decision of his army of woke employees?

    Replies: @PhysicistDave, @J.Ross, @Curle, @Abe, @tyrone, @AndrewR

    There is no way he didn’t personally approve that, even if it was under pressure from the uaual suspects.

  128. @Kronos
    @Jack D

    Fair point.

    The Daily Beast essentially lighted up a giant media flare over Gonzalo Lira alerting the Ukrainians that this guy is serious trouble. (Look at the number of views from this recent interview.)

    https://youtu.be/w5RKNoIhE40

    That hit piece (no pun intended😨) marked Lira as a enemy VIP in the ongoing propaganda war in Ukraine. That’s a fairly long article meant both to discredit Lira while simultaneously spiking Lira to near the top of Zelenskyy‘s shit list. They don’t spill that much ink for anyone. If the Ukrainian secret police were looking for him before, they soon brought out the real bloodhounds after that article was published.

    Replies: @Jack D, @AndrewR

    I don’t want him to be tortured or killed, but obviously he knew that he couldn’t be a propagandist for the Russians while living in Ukraine indefinitely.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  129. @Art Deco
    @Anonymous

    Before that journalists had a generally low status.

    They did not. See, for example, Dorothy Kilgallen.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Hibernian

    While Dorothy Kilgallen was well-known, it doesn’t necessarily follow that she was high status. She was famously despised by Jack Paar and Frank Sinatra and once she started asking too many questions about the death of JFK she herself had an unfortunate incident in November 1965, leading to her death at 52 by acute ethanol and barbiturate intoxication. She got her job because her father was a famous reporter who didn’t die until 1982.

    She was probably best known for being the sourpuss on What’s My Line?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @ScarletNumber

    While Dorothy Kilgallen was well-known, it doesn’t necessarily follow that she was high status

    She most certainly was, and you can consult her younger son's brief memoir of daily life in the Kilgallen / Kollmar household. She and her husband were exceedingly well-connected.

    Her father's reputation in the Hearst organization was with scant doubt helpful in getting her hired, but she made her mark within three years and was more prominent than her father from 1947 onward. Her sister was a prominent talent agent.

    She wasn't a sourpuss on What's My Line, just marginally less appealing than Arlene Francis. She was a journalist, not an actress.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    , @Art Deco
    @ScarletNumber

    and once she started asking too many questions about the death of JFK she herself had an unfortunate incident in November 1965,

    She didn't know squat about the Kennedy Assassination. Her one odd intervention in the case was scoring a private interview with Jack Ruby. The book she was working on at the time of her death was a compendium of accounts of murder trials she'd attended, Ruby's trial being one. There was no exposé forthcoming.

    You have two options in regard to her death: that she took one two many sleeping pills and had one too many drinks or that her husband spiked a drink with a mess of barbituates in it. Her family's embarrassed silence since 1965 suggests they suspected the latter. Her body was found by a hairdresser who did house calls, had her on his client list, and had appeared for a scheduled appointment, setting up his equipment in an adjoining room he used as a makeshift salon. By some accounts, he told the authorities that the bedroom in which he found her was one he'd never seen her occupy before. Other features of the scene suggested it had been staged.

    Replies: @Jack D

  130. @Jack D
    @ScarletNumber


    During voir dire, [the juror] doubled down on his beliefs
     
    In a totalitarian state, you are not supposed to double down on your WRONG beliefs, you are supposed to repent your sins and beg forgiveness.

    The mistake that this juror made was being truthful. As any Russian can tell you, in any dealings with a totalitarian state you are expected to lie. Everybody lies under such a regime - the state lies to you, you lie to them, it's all lies up and down the line.

    When you see a questionnaire like this, it's quite obvious what answers they are seeking. If you really wanted to serve on this jury (maybe in order to see to it that the family of Kendra Hatcher receives justice), give them what they want - just check the "right" box and move on. If questioned then double down on your CORRECT beliefs. PC beliefs are so idiotic that even an AI bot can reproduce them. "Well, race does not exist in the first place, so how could it even be possible for one "race" to be more violent than another "race"?

    If you display correct beliefs then you not only should but you MUST double down, triple down, as many X down on these beliefs as necessary to tamp down the cognitive dissonance. When Steve tweeted the murder stats for blacks vs. whites, others tweeted back , "Well, that was MURDER, it doesn't prove that blacks are more VIOLENT." It's like the Putinists - you are never going to convince these folks no matter what facts you present to them because their beliefs are quasi-religious and not rooted in fact.

    Replies: @Greta Handel, @Jonathan Mason, @Dumbo, @ScarletNumber

    As any Russian can tell you, in any dealings with a totalitarian state you are expected to lie. Everybody lies under such a regime – the state lies to you, you lie to them, it’s all lies up and down the line.

    The American education system works exactly the same way. They humiliate you by forcing you to say things that aren’t true.

  131. @Polistra
    @Muggles


    When the ThoughtCrimes Police finally get hold of of the Unz commentator “handle” list, which I’m sure the NSA is already working on, then those knocks on the door will start.
     
    I'm not sure how to react to the notion that the NSA doesn't already know the details of everyone who posts here, and anywhere else online.

    You'll be "disappeared" when and where they feel like. But ATM I doubt too many of us are worth the trouble.

    Replies: @Thea

    Keeping the noise to signal ratio online high likely has some benefit to its creators( US DOD)

    I’ll admit my own comments contributed to that particular ratio!

  132. @aNewBanner
    @Muggles

    Are you suggesting that the NSA is incompetent? I want a tax refund if the NSA doesn’t already have your Unz commenter information in your permanent file along with your mother’s maiden name, the make and model of your first car, your pet’s names, your favorite sports team, and your sexual fetishes. Hell, Google probably knows that and more.

    What keeps us safe is impotence. We are not a threat to the regime. Furthermore, there is a limit to the power of propaganda to make someone into a threat. The Eye of Soros needs to focus on one individual to trigger the Two Minutes of Hate. The human mind has limited bandwidth. It can only receive so much information. It can process less. It can act on little. The regime can’t cancel all of us because it runs up against the physical limitations of its enforcement mechanism, namely social ostracism by regime friendly allies with the attention span of a chicken.

    Even if we were all known as thought criminals, we would be safe unless our name was randomly chosen as the object of that day’s rage. It would need to be a really slow news day for that to happen. The Eye of Soros barely winks at Steve anymore. The new big thing is, “Dark MAGA”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/what-is-dark-maga-trump-supporters-attempt-rebrand-for-2024/ar-AAWmvkT

    Likely 4chan for the lulz. Still, it will scare my CNN addicted father-in-law.

    Replies: @obwandiyag, @Thea, @Anonymous

    Anecdotally, Two former math professors work for the NSA. One was a Jewish guy, one of the gentlest kindest people I ever met. The other was a total egomaniacal a*hole. Both were very smart and competent( Jewish guy, much more so.)

    But the agency itself could be a cluster for all I know.

    And I would never reveal their names online because doxxing is for sh*tlibs.

  133. @ScarletNumber
    @Art Deco

    While Dorothy Kilgallen was well-known, it doesn't necessarily follow that she was high status. She was famously despised by Jack Paar and Frank Sinatra and once she started asking too many questions about the death of JFK she herself had an unfortunate incident in November 1965, leading to her death at 52 by acute ethanol and barbiturate intoxication. She got her job because her father was a famous reporter who didn't die until 1982.

    She was probably best known for being the sourpuss on What's My Line?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Art Deco

    While Dorothy Kilgallen was well-known, it doesn’t necessarily follow that she was high status

    She most certainly was, and you can consult her younger son’s brief memoir of daily life in the Kilgallen / Kollmar household. She and her husband were exceedingly well-connected.

    Her father’s reputation in the Hearst organization was with scant doubt helpful in getting her hired, but she made her mark within three years and was more prominent than her father from 1947 onward. Her sister was a prominent talent agent.

    She wasn’t a sourpuss on What’s My Line, just marginally less appealing than Arlene Francis. She was a journalist, not an actress.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Art Deco


    daily life in the Kilgallen / Kollmar household
     
    Proving my point that she rode her father's name to success then her husband's.

    She wasn’t a sourpuss on What’s My Line, just marginally less appealing than Arlene Francis.
     
    Please read any interview or memoir of Bennett Cerf to refute your premise.
  134. @ScarletNumber
    @Art Deco

    While Dorothy Kilgallen was well-known, it doesn't necessarily follow that she was high status. She was famously despised by Jack Paar and Frank Sinatra and once she started asking too many questions about the death of JFK she herself had an unfortunate incident in November 1965, leading to her death at 52 by acute ethanol and barbiturate intoxication. She got her job because her father was a famous reporter who didn't die until 1982.

    She was probably best known for being the sourpuss on What's My Line?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Art Deco

    and once she started asking too many questions about the death of JFK she herself had an unfortunate incident in November 1965,

    She didn’t know squat about the Kennedy Assassination. Her one odd intervention in the case was scoring a private interview with Jack Ruby. The book she was working on at the time of her death was a compendium of accounts of murder trials she’d attended, Ruby’s trial being one. There was no exposé forthcoming.

    You have two options in regard to her death: that she took one two many sleeping pills and had one too many drinks or that her husband spiked a drink with a mess of barbituates in it. Her family’s embarrassed silence since 1965 suggests they suspected the latter. Her body was found by a hairdresser who did house calls, had her on his client list, and had appeared for a scheduled appointment, setting up his equipment in an adjoining room he used as a makeshift salon. By some accounts, he told the authorities that the bedroom in which he found her was one he’d never seen her occupy before. Other features of the scene suggested it had been staged.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Art Deco


    her husband spiked a drink with a mess of barbituates in it. Her family’s embarrassed silence since 1965 suggests they suspected the latter.
     
    It's hard to infer meaning from silence. They could also be embarrassed that she committed suicide or that she was a secret alcoholic and stupid and accidentally killed herself.

    The finding was that she died of "moderate" alcohol and barbiturate overdose, which is consistent with the "one too many" accidental overdose theory. If you were trying to knock someone off, you would give them a strong dose. One too many might also be one too few and if they survived they might ask questions.
    One of the reasons that they no longer prescribe barbiturates as sleeping pills is that, especially in combination with alcohol (and a LOT of people drink alcohol) it tends to suppress your breathing. leading to frequent accidental death (as well as being a popular way of committing suicide. The list of celebrities who died of barbiturate overdose is a mile long:

    People who are known to have committed suicide by barbiturate overdose include, Gillian Bennett,[10] Charles Boyer, Ruan Lingyu, Victor Folke Nelson,[11][12] Dalida,[13][14] Jeannine "The Singing Nun" Deckers, Felix Hausdorff, Abbie Hoffman, Phyllis Hyman, C. P. Ramanujam, George Sanders, Jean Seberg, Lupe Vélez and the members of Heaven's Gate cult. Others who have died as a result of barbiturate overdose include Pier Angeli, Brian Epstein, Judy Garland, Jimi Hendrix, Marilyn Monroe, Inger Stevens, Dinah Washington, Ellen Wilkinson, and Alan Wilson; in some cases these have been speculated to be suicides as well. Those who died of a combination of barbiturates and other drugs include Rainer Werner Fassbinder, Dorothy Kilgallen, Malcolm Lowry, Edie Sedgwick and Kenneth Williams.

     

    If you were going to stage someone's death, wouldn't you put her in her usual bedroom?

    Replies: @Art Deco

  135. @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    His answer, mentioning “non-white” races, was just a (less than accurate) effort to be polite and not utter the B-word.
     
    Are you mind-reading again?

    If he said, "nonwhite raceS," presumably he meant more than just blacks. In any case, I don't trust the selective quotes in the Slate article, so I wanted to know if someone had actual extended quotes from the juror.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    The majority of violent crime in the US is committed by none-Whites.

    The fact that the wily chinee prefers nonviolence doesn’t alter the fact that if the question divides the country into Whites and others, the others are more violent.

  136. @aNewBanner
    @Muggles

    Are you suggesting that the NSA is incompetent? I want a tax refund if the NSA doesn’t already have your Unz commenter information in your permanent file along with your mother’s maiden name, the make and model of your first car, your pet’s names, your favorite sports team, and your sexual fetishes. Hell, Google probably knows that and more.

    What keeps us safe is impotence. We are not a threat to the regime. Furthermore, there is a limit to the power of propaganda to make someone into a threat. The Eye of Soros needs to focus on one individual to trigger the Two Minutes of Hate. The human mind has limited bandwidth. It can only receive so much information. It can process less. It can act on little. The regime can’t cancel all of us because it runs up against the physical limitations of its enforcement mechanism, namely social ostracism by regime friendly allies with the attention span of a chicken.

    Even if we were all known as thought criminals, we would be safe unless our name was randomly chosen as the object of that day’s rage. It would need to be a really slow news day for that to happen. The Eye of Soros barely winks at Steve anymore. The new big thing is, “Dark MAGA”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/what-is-dark-maga-trump-supporters-attempt-rebrand-for-2024/ar-AAWmvkT

    Likely 4chan for the lulz. Still, it will scare my CNN addicted father-in-law.

    Replies: @obwandiyag, @Thea, @Anonymous

    The saving grace of these social-media pile-ons is that they fade quickly.

    (Who now remembers the puppy-toss marine or the cat bin woman?)

  137. @Art Deco
    @ScarletNumber

    and once she started asking too many questions about the death of JFK she herself had an unfortunate incident in November 1965,

    She didn't know squat about the Kennedy Assassination. Her one odd intervention in the case was scoring a private interview with Jack Ruby. The book she was working on at the time of her death was a compendium of accounts of murder trials she'd attended, Ruby's trial being one. There was no exposé forthcoming.

    You have two options in regard to her death: that she took one two many sleeping pills and had one too many drinks or that her husband spiked a drink with a mess of barbituates in it. Her family's embarrassed silence since 1965 suggests they suspected the latter. Her body was found by a hairdresser who did house calls, had her on his client list, and had appeared for a scheduled appointment, setting up his equipment in an adjoining room he used as a makeshift salon. By some accounts, he told the authorities that the bedroom in which he found her was one he'd never seen her occupy before. Other features of the scene suggested it had been staged.

    Replies: @Jack D

    her husband spiked a drink with a mess of barbituates in it. Her family’s embarrassed silence since 1965 suggests they suspected the latter.

    It’s hard to infer meaning from silence. They could also be embarrassed that she committed suicide or that she was a secret alcoholic and stupid and accidentally killed herself.

    The finding was that she died of “moderate” alcohol and barbiturate overdose, which is consistent with the “one too many” accidental overdose theory. If you were trying to knock someone off, you would give them a strong dose. One too many might also be one too few and if they survived they might ask questions.
    One of the reasons that they no longer prescribe barbiturates as sleeping pills is that, especially in combination with alcohol (and a LOT of people drink alcohol) it tends to suppress your breathing. leading to frequent accidental death (as well as being a popular way of committing suicide. The list of celebrities who died of barbiturate overdose is a mile long:

    People who are known to have committed suicide by barbiturate overdose include, Gillian Bennett,[10] Charles Boyer, Ruan Lingyu, Victor Folke Nelson,[11][12] Dalida,[13][14] Jeannine “The Singing Nun” Deckers, Felix Hausdorff, Abbie Hoffman, Phyllis Hyman, C. P. Ramanujam, George Sanders, Jean Seberg, Lupe Vélez and the members of Heaven’s Gate cult. Others who have died as a result of barbiturate overdose include Pier Angeli, Brian Epstein, Judy Garland, Jimi Hendrix, Marilyn Monroe, Inger Stevens, Dinah Washington, Ellen Wilkinson, and Alan Wilson; in some cases these have been speculated to be suicides as well. Those who died of a combination of barbiturates and other drugs include Rainer Werner Fassbinder, Dorothy Kilgallen, Malcolm Lowry, Edie Sedgwick and Kenneth Williams.

    If you were going to stage someone’s death, wouldn’t you put her in her usual bedroom?

    • Thanks: Hibernian, ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    That's the summary statement of the coroner offered at the time. Unless I'm terribly confused, the writer Lee Israel (I know, an unreliable creature) in the course of composing her biography of Kilgallan managed to secure permission to have some of the leftover tissue samples from her autopsy tested. My memory may be failing me, but IIRC, the technicians who tested the sample found traces of 11 different drugs in her system. I'm not aware of the composition of over the counter or prescription sleeping pills, but I cannot imagine that any two of them have 11 different active compounds in them.

    She didn't commit suicide. The woman was frenetically active and no one who interacted with her on the day of her death (and that included John Charles Daly and the rest of the crew on What's My Line?) reported any despondency at all. She was having marital problems. She'd always been the primary earner in her household. Her husband hadn't had f/t employment in six years at that point and hadn't been employed at all in two and appeared to his son to be going down the alcoholic drain. There are also sketchy reports he was cheating on her. (The accounts that she was cheating on him are not credible). Her husband was a candidate for suicide. She was not.

    The man who found her was someone who had regular appointments with her and was let in as usual by her household staff. He sets up his equipment as usual, opens the door to the adjoining room and there she is in bed dead. The whole mise en scene was odd - she was upright, she was in a nightgown, she had a book near her (a book that others reported she'd already read), she wasn't wearing her reading glasses, &c.

    Dominick Dunne was a personal friend of Eleanor Kilgallan, close enough that he felt at liberty to ask her, decades after the fact, what she thought had happened. She was vocally annoyed with him for asking and gave him no answer. There was something the Kilgallans did not want to talk about, and it wasn't suicide. Her niece and her older children have offered nothing for attribution. Her younger son has offered an account of the sequence of events that day as he saw it. He said he was pulled out of school, escorted home by their housekeeper, who then presented him to his father. He said his father was in an upstairs sitting room in his pyjamas, catatonically drunk - awake but unable to utter a word.

  138. @Thea
    Wait till Unz commenters get doxxed. Sad to say but I think it might happen some day :(

    Replies: @anonymous, @Hibernian

    Most likely by a lurking spy, not electronically.

  139. @Art Deco
    @Anonymous

    Before that journalists had a generally low status.

    They did not. See, for example, Dorothy Kilgallen.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Hibernian

    Exception that proves the rule. She was a star. My Dad, an English major, became a high school teacher in preference to being a reporter for the City News bureau, a jointly owned local news service in Chicago.

  140. @Art Deco
    @ScarletNumber

    While Dorothy Kilgallen was well-known, it doesn’t necessarily follow that she was high status

    She most certainly was, and you can consult her younger son's brief memoir of daily life in the Kilgallen / Kollmar household. She and her husband were exceedingly well-connected.

    Her father's reputation in the Hearst organization was with scant doubt helpful in getting her hired, but she made her mark within three years and was more prominent than her father from 1947 onward. Her sister was a prominent talent agent.

    She wasn't a sourpuss on What's My Line, just marginally less appealing than Arlene Francis. She was a journalist, not an actress.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    daily life in the Kilgallen / Kollmar household

    Proving my point that she rode her father’s name to success then her husband’s.

    She wasn’t a sourpuss on What’s My Line, just marginally less appealing than Arlene Francis.

    Please read any interview or memoir of Bennett Cerf to refute your premise.

  141. @Hypnotoad666
    @Franz

    I'm sure the Libs of Tic Tok chick and the Texas juror are annoyed and dismayed at being doxxed. But a Chilean guy named Gonzalo Lira, who was giving counter-narrative reports from Kharkov, was doxxed by the Daily Beast. As a result of the Daily Beast doxxing, he has been kidnapped and murdered by the Ukrainians. https://youtu.be/p-cv1bLDxxo

    But remember, Putin bad, borders good.

    Replies: @Franz

    As a result of the Daily Beast doxxing, he has been kidnapped and murdered by the Ukrainians.

    I’ve been following Gonzalo Lira since all this started, are they sure he’s dead? Last word I got was at the UK site where it was still “missing with lots of rumors”.

    Absolutely certain the Ukies wanted to kill him though. Hope not.

  142. @Roger
    @Paperback Writer

    The juror name is not in the Supreme Court opinion by Sotomayor. It is not in the Texas appellate decision either. It could be in the briefs, I did not check.

    The juror name has been published by CNN, CBS, and other news sources.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer, @Paperback Writer

    You’re right, thanks. She refers to him as “prospective juror” throughout.

    So Stern is more of a punk than I thought. But… I still don’t think it’s classical doxxing. It’s more like doxxing-adjacent, as the kids would say, because Stern didn’t publish his address. But these things are easily looked up.

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-5050_3dq3.pdf

  143. @SIMP simp
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The system is built around a narrative about hidden hordes of racists. Any action that you speak of proves them right and gives the ambitious a chance to gain status by punching a nazi. Remember Charlottesville? The Capitol protest? What do you think it would happen to a major pro-Proud Boys protest in New York City? Lots of provocations from glow feds, huge leftist counter rally, violent antifa bussed from around the country, a hostile police force looking to arrest protestors and judges eager to punish them harshly.
    Democracy is dead and so is justice. Any useful action must be taken either in a well thought manner (e.g. hold the protest in an area with sympathetic politicians and police) or in the shadows. Otherwise you are just making the enemy stronger.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I don’t know. I’ve got a feeling we’re going to find some of this out though. Right now, they’ve got another big distraction, the Ukraine/Russia war. At some point, when the people on our side have less to lose – which WILL be the case based on immutable economic laws – there will be more hell-raising.

  144. @Jack D
    @Kronos

    This is not doxing as it is normally understood. They "shone an MSM spotlight on him" which is not the same thing. He apparently WANTED public attention under his real name with his YouTube rants, just not this type of attention. Sorry, you don't get to choose, especially not if you are broadcasting propaganda in an enemy country in the middle of a war. What did he THINK was going to happen? He should have been arrested for stupidity if nothing else.

    Replies: @dalyia, @Kronos

    Lira wasn’t going after the audience of the NYT or CNN. That’s largely a lost cause. It’s difficult to peel off readers/listeners from those MSM outlets much less obtain subscriptions/donations from them.
    He was providing info to the alternative news arena. Most Daily Beast readers had no idea who he was or what his messaging consisted of. But because the MSM has increasingly become an active propaganda outlet and suppressor of free speech they just couldn’t help themselves and scrag another fellow journalist.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Kronos


    another fellow journalist
     
    Lira was not a "journalist" in any meaningful sense - if the MSM are themselves propaganda outlets then he was a propagandist on a whole 'nother level.

    I realize that to some people here the "alternative news arena" represents just another POV that is different from the MSM (maybe in their topsy turvy world, the MSM is the propaganda and Lira is the pravda) , but there has to be a line where "alternative news" ends and outright falsehoods begin.

    Apparently Lira is alive and well although possibly under some form of house arrest in Kharkiv. In any case the cruel Ukrainian "Nazis" have not executed him and left his body in the street like the Russian "anti-fascists" do.

    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/04/journalist-gonzalo-lira-is-missing-and-presumed-dead-but-his-bucha-video-is-not.html

    Speaking of being alive and (not so) well, Putin and Shoigu made a live appearance on TV the other day and neither of them looked very healthy. Putin looked like he was holding on to the table in order to remain upright and Shoigu read/mumbled from a script. The whole sight was rather pathetic. Russians are not really a smiley bunch but if this was the "victory" announcement for Mariupol the optics were not very victorious. I would give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that they were both just drunk as Russians are wont to do but Putin is known not to be a drinker.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10742521/Putin-seen-gripping-table-amid-cancer-battle-rumours-meets-slurring-defence-minister.html

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/04/22/13/56918087-10742521-A_bloated_Vladimir_Putin_has_been_seen_gripping_a_table_whilst_s-a-34_1650632365603.jpg

    We really need to get rid of the geriatric clowns who send young men to die everywhere (including the US). There is a thing in cults (like Mormon polygamists) where the older male leaders push the young men out because they don't want them competing for the females - this must be deeply rooted in primate behavior. There should be some fairly low age limit on leadership. Old, wise heads could be advisors but the man in charge should be young enough to attract women on his own without having to kill off the youth.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  145. @Jack D
    @Art Deco


    her husband spiked a drink with a mess of barbituates in it. Her family’s embarrassed silence since 1965 suggests they suspected the latter.
     
    It's hard to infer meaning from silence. They could also be embarrassed that she committed suicide or that she was a secret alcoholic and stupid and accidentally killed herself.

    The finding was that she died of "moderate" alcohol and barbiturate overdose, which is consistent with the "one too many" accidental overdose theory. If you were trying to knock someone off, you would give them a strong dose. One too many might also be one too few and if they survived they might ask questions.
    One of the reasons that they no longer prescribe barbiturates as sleeping pills is that, especially in combination with alcohol (and a LOT of people drink alcohol) it tends to suppress your breathing. leading to frequent accidental death (as well as being a popular way of committing suicide. The list of celebrities who died of barbiturate overdose is a mile long:

    People who are known to have committed suicide by barbiturate overdose include, Gillian Bennett,[10] Charles Boyer, Ruan Lingyu, Victor Folke Nelson,[11][12] Dalida,[13][14] Jeannine "The Singing Nun" Deckers, Felix Hausdorff, Abbie Hoffman, Phyllis Hyman, C. P. Ramanujam, George Sanders, Jean Seberg, Lupe Vélez and the members of Heaven's Gate cult. Others who have died as a result of barbiturate overdose include Pier Angeli, Brian Epstein, Judy Garland, Jimi Hendrix, Marilyn Monroe, Inger Stevens, Dinah Washington, Ellen Wilkinson, and Alan Wilson; in some cases these have been speculated to be suicides as well. Those who died of a combination of barbiturates and other drugs include Rainer Werner Fassbinder, Dorothy Kilgallen, Malcolm Lowry, Edie Sedgwick and Kenneth Williams.

     

    If you were going to stage someone's death, wouldn't you put her in her usual bedroom?

    Replies: @Art Deco

    That’s the summary statement of the coroner offered at the time. Unless I’m terribly confused, the writer Lee Israel (I know, an unreliable creature) in the course of composing her biography of Kilgallan managed to secure permission to have some of the leftover tissue samples from her autopsy tested. My memory may be failing me, but IIRC, the technicians who tested the sample found traces of 11 different drugs in her system. I’m not aware of the composition of over the counter or prescription sleeping pills, but I cannot imagine that any two of them have 11 different active compounds in them.

    She didn’t commit suicide. The woman was frenetically active and no one who interacted with her on the day of her death (and that included John Charles Daly and the rest of the crew on What’s My Line?) reported any despondency at all. She was having marital problems. She’d always been the primary earner in her household. Her husband hadn’t had f/t employment in six years at that point and hadn’t been employed at all in two and appeared to his son to be going down the alcoholic drain. There are also sketchy reports he was cheating on her. (The accounts that she was cheating on him are not credible). Her husband was a candidate for suicide. She was not.

    The man who found her was someone who had regular appointments with her and was let in as usual by her household staff. He sets up his equipment as usual, opens the door to the adjoining room and there she is in bed dead. The whole mise en scene was odd – she was upright, she was in a nightgown, she had a book near her (a book that others reported she’d already read), she wasn’t wearing her reading glasses, &c.

    Dominick Dunne was a personal friend of Eleanor Kilgallan, close enough that he felt at liberty to ask her, decades after the fact, what she thought had happened. She was vocally annoyed with him for asking and gave him no answer. There was something the Kilgallans did not want to talk about, and it wasn’t suicide. Her niece and her older children have offered nothing for attribution. Her younger son has offered an account of the sequence of events that day as he saw it. He said he was pulled out of school, escorted home by their housekeeper, who then presented him to his father. He said his father was in an upstairs sitting room in his pyjamas, catatonically drunk – awake but unable to utter a word.

  146. @Kronos
    @Jack D

    Lira wasn't going after the audience of the NYT or CNN. That's largely a lost cause. It's difficult to peel off readers/listeners from those MSM outlets much less obtain subscriptions/donations from them.
    He was providing info to the alternative news arena. Most Daily Beast readers had no idea who he was or what his messaging consisted of. But because the MSM has increasingly become an active propaganda outlet and suppressor of free speech they just couldn't help themselves and scrag another fellow journalist.

    Replies: @Jack D

    another fellow journalist

    Lira was not a “journalist” in any meaningful sense – if the MSM are themselves propaganda outlets then he was a propagandist on a whole ‘nother level.

    I realize that to some people here the “alternative news arena” represents just another POV that is different from the MSM (maybe in their topsy turvy world, the MSM is the propaganda and Lira is the pravda) , but there has to be a line where “alternative news” ends and outright falsehoods begin.

    Apparently Lira is alive and well although possibly under some form of house arrest in Kharkiv. In any case the cruel Ukrainian “Nazis” have not executed him and left his body in the street like the Russian “anti-fascists” do.

    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/04/journalist-gonzalo-lira-is-missing-and-presumed-dead-but-his-bucha-video-is-not.html

    Speaking of being alive and (not so) well, Putin and Shoigu made a live appearance on TV the other day and neither of them looked very healthy. Putin looked like he was holding on to the table in order to remain upright and Shoigu read/mumbled from a script. The whole sight was rather pathetic. Russians are not really a smiley bunch but if this was the “victory” announcement for Mariupol the optics were not very victorious. I would give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that they were both just drunk as Russians are wont to do but Putin is known not to be a drinker.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10742521/Putin-seen-gripping-table-amid-cancer-battle-rumours-meets-slurring-defence-minister.html

    We really need to get rid of the geriatric clowns who send young men to die everywhere (including the US). There is a thing in cults (like Mormon polygamists) where the older male leaders push the young men out because they don’t want them competing for the females – this must be deeply rooted in primate behavior. There should be some fairly low age limit on leadership. Old, wise heads could be advisors but the man in charge should be young enough to attract women on his own without having to kill off the youth.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    Shoigu looked alright. Putin's posture was peculiar; he also gripped the table for 11 minutes straight. The scuttlebutt is he's trying to conceal a tremor.

  147. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Franz

    Doxxing the doxxers: VDare's Jason Kessler, our man in Charlottesville, has been doing just that, Franz. Here are 4 articles in which this is exactly what he did:

    "DOXING THE DOXERS: Half-Egyptian Rich Kid SPLC Enforcer Michael Edison Hayden Is A Weirdo. What Else Is New?"

    "DOXING THE DOXERS: HuffPo’s Christopher Mathias Another Spoiled Rich Brat Targeting Ordinary Americans."

    "Doxing the Doxers: Leftist Enforcer Jared Holt, Up Close and Personal—A Few Things He’d Prefer You Not To Know"

    "Doxing The Doxers: Antifa’s War Against Regular Americans Is Run By Spoiled Rich Kids".

    I've read all of these, and let me tell you, those ctrl-left doxxers are some nasty pieces of work.

    What our side really needs is a mole in the NSA who can find out anything on anyone.

    Replies: @Paul Mendez

    The problem is that doxxing leftists doesn’t accomplish much, unless you can uncover their saying or doing something deemed “problematic” by other leftists.

    Conservatives are rarely able to cancel leftists, and few are mentally ill enough to actually harm them. Snarky tweets and dank memes are the worst doxxed leftists must endure.

  148. @Jack D
    @Kronos


    another fellow journalist
     
    Lira was not a "journalist" in any meaningful sense - if the MSM are themselves propaganda outlets then he was a propagandist on a whole 'nother level.

    I realize that to some people here the "alternative news arena" represents just another POV that is different from the MSM (maybe in their topsy turvy world, the MSM is the propaganda and Lira is the pravda) , but there has to be a line where "alternative news" ends and outright falsehoods begin.

    Apparently Lira is alive and well although possibly under some form of house arrest in Kharkiv. In any case the cruel Ukrainian "Nazis" have not executed him and left his body in the street like the Russian "anti-fascists" do.

    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/04/journalist-gonzalo-lira-is-missing-and-presumed-dead-but-his-bucha-video-is-not.html

    Speaking of being alive and (not so) well, Putin and Shoigu made a live appearance on TV the other day and neither of them looked very healthy. Putin looked like he was holding on to the table in order to remain upright and Shoigu read/mumbled from a script. The whole sight was rather pathetic. Russians are not really a smiley bunch but if this was the "victory" announcement for Mariupol the optics were not very victorious. I would give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that they were both just drunk as Russians are wont to do but Putin is known not to be a drinker.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10742521/Putin-seen-gripping-table-amid-cancer-battle-rumours-meets-slurring-defence-minister.html

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/04/22/13/56918087-10742521-A_bloated_Vladimir_Putin_has_been_seen_gripping_a_table_whilst_s-a-34_1650632365603.jpg

    We really need to get rid of the geriatric clowns who send young men to die everywhere (including the US). There is a thing in cults (like Mormon polygamists) where the older male leaders push the young men out because they don't want them competing for the females - this must be deeply rooted in primate behavior. There should be some fairly low age limit on leadership. Old, wise heads could be advisors but the man in charge should be young enough to attract women on his own without having to kill off the youth.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Shoigu looked alright. Putin’s posture was peculiar; he also gripped the table for 11 minutes straight. The scuttlebutt is he’s trying to conceal a tremor.

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