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Last year, I watched the hit Netflix satirical Killer Comet movie Don’t Look Up from Adam McKay, Will Ferrell’s former writer, but couldn’t think of much of pressing interest to say about the Killer Comet film. Apparently, however, huge numbers of people have watched it and argued over it, so let me jot down what little I do have to say.

I have rather low standards for comedy films, so I enjoyed it even though it’s not very funny. It’s not the satire I would have made about our current politics, but I didn’t make it and McKay did.

But, then, my expectations for McKay’s movies are low. As I explained about his Oscar-nominated 2018 Dick Cheney biopic Vice:

And as a screenwriter, McKay is scattershot, giving the impression that he spent the George W. Bush era hate-watching Fox News and now intends to have his say on absolutely everything that happened ten to eighteen years ago. Rather than focusing on a single dramatic arc, such as Cheney’s two wars with Iraq, McKay can’t keep himself from inserting brief references to multitudinous nearly forgotten imbroglios, such as whether Cheney could meet with oil company CEOs in secret—controversies that weren’t very exciting even when they were happening. Vice winds up being neither tragic nor comic: It’s like Anchorman without laughs.

So I wasn’t expecting much from Don’t Look Up and wasn’t disappointed when I didn’t get too much from McKay.

Don’t Look Up is an allegory about climate change or covid or what have you with a pudgy, boring Leonardo DiCaprio and Jennifer Lawrence (with a distracting nose ring — a nose ring on a young woman portends Trouble with a Capital T, except in this movie about how everybody is distracted by celebrity trivia from What’s Really Important in which nobody ever mentions her nose ring). They play astronomers who discover a comet that is about to hit the earth and exterminate the human race.

But the lady President (Meryl Streep as a cross between Sarah Palin and Donald Trump) is too busy with the midterm elections to implement the federal bureaucracy’s foolproof plans.

So the scientists go to the media. But then everything gets politicized and personalized with the social media masses deciding as one that they love the overweight dweeby middle-aged white male professor and hate the spunky, voluptuous young woman grad student.

Sure …

When the comet appears in the night sky, Democrats say “Just Look Up” and Republicans, being anti-The Science morons, chant “Don’t Look Up” because they don’t believe in comets. After all, who is more aware of the night sky: downtown Democrats or rural Republicans?

At least Vice featured three fine performances: Christian Bale as Cheney, Amy Adams as Mrs. Cheney, and Sam Rockwell as George W, with only Steve Carrell misfiring as Rumsfeld. In contrast, only one minor player in “Don’t Look Up” is better than expected.

DiCaprio is as unappealing as I’ve ever seen him: for a leading man, he’s such an expert actor that when you tell him to be boring, he’s really boring. Also, he’s always had a weird looking face, so he always needs to diet down to what I imagine he finds an uncomfortable leanness to not look puffy. But he plays his astronomer realistically at the star’s between-movies-on-the-beach-with-a-supermodel usual 25 pounds overweight, which is not a pretty sight.

And there’s a dumb plot twist halfway through involving Mark Rylance (the amateur sailor in Dunkirk) as an autistic tech billionaire.

As President Streep’s son and chief of staff, Jonah Hill plays The Jonah Hill Character, same as in a funnier apocalypse movie, This Is the End.

I didn’t recognize Cate Blanchett as a Fox News blonde. Botox? Work done?

On the plus side, as a Rust Belt Christian skate punk, I liked Timothée Chalamet more than in any other of his movies I’ve seen, and almost felt like forgiving him for how his name is spelled.

Apparently, Don’t Look Up is what Americans want these days: a mediocre movie they can argue over politically without the distractions of good performances, witty lines, or clever plotting.

 
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  1. Another reason to avoid going to the movies.

    • Replies: @guest007
    @Muggles

    It is on Netflix. One watches from home.

    , @duncsbaby
    @Muggles

    Reason #432 not to have Netflix.

    Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy

  2. But the lady President (Meryl Streep as a cross between Sarah Palin and Donald Trump) is too busy with the midterm elections to implement the federal bureaucracy’s foolproof plans.

    So the rest of the world governments liberal Hollywood types always tell are so much better than the dumb rubes in the United States just go along with ignoring the meteor? This sounds even dumber than the 2004 movie The Day After Tomorrow, which climate change alarmists hated because it made them look like idiots. Please tell me that in the end humanity is saved by a group of diverse scientists who blow up the meteor with their sheer brain power. I hope the cast of Hidden Figures at least makes a cameo appearance to do all the really hard math needed to save the day.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Barnard

    The Russians, Chinese and somebody else (the French?) get together and try something.

    Replies: @Barnard

    , @Ben tillman
    @Barnard

    Okay, good point.

    , @Wilkey
    @Barnard


    Please tell me that in the end humanity is saved by a group of diverse scientists who blow up the meteor with their sheer brain power.
     
    This raises a serious question: if humanity really ever does face a threat this big, will Leftists demand that the brain trust gathered to solve it be 50% female and 40% BIPOC? Because if so we are certainly screwed.

    Case in point: President Brandon, who faces 7% inflation and the looming threat of a financial crisis, has just appointed three new members to the Federal Reserve Board: a Jewish woman, a black woman, and a black man.

    The biggest financial threat hanging over our heads in a very long time and Biden is still obsessed about "muh duh-versity." Thank God these people weren't in charge when we were trying to win World War Two.

    Replies: @bomag, @Brutusale

  3. LOL. What a tremendous review!

    • Agree: HammerJack
  4. that Vice movie ,a partial shot surely ,on our new hallowed day jan. 6 the democrats lined up to shake Dick Cheney’s hand …..who ever thought he would be rehabilitated…….Trump derangement syndrome, scary powerful.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Abe
    @tyrone


    that Vice movie ,a partial shot surely ,on our new hallowed day jan. 6 the democrats lined up to shake Dick Cheney’s hand …..who ever thought he would be rehabilitated…….
     
    From Reagan Democrats to Cheney Democrats.

    Let that sink in- unless they are principled, rebellious, a bit crazy, or some combination of all three, every Deep State-loving/Big Tech-pimping/Globohomo-converged donkey party politician in Washington is now a Dick Cheney Democrat.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Harry Baldwin

    , @Kronos
    @tyrone

    I think Mother Jones Magazine just made Liz Cheney “Woman of the Year” or something. Had you told me that was going to happen back in 2006 I’d have laughed my ass off. The whole anti-Bush/Cheney energy happening even at the K-12 level was simply astounding.

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/12/hero-liz-cheney/

    , @Mr. Anon
    @tyrone


    that Vice movie ,a partial shot surely ,on our new hallowed day jan. 6 the democrats lined up to shake Dick Cheney’s hand …..who ever thought he would be rehabilitated…….Trump derangement syndrome, scary powerful.
     
    The Democrats didn't hate Cheney for what he did. They hated him because it was him doing it instead of them.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Old Prude

  5. Yeah, the plot twist was dumb, and Streep was try-hard. It was an uneven attempt.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    @Half Canadian

    I actually thought it was amusing and better than expected (I had low expectations) until the plot twist. Way downhill from there.

    Replies: @Bill

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Half Canadian

    "and Streep was try-hard. "

    I am willing to forgive La Meryl for just about anything, just for her brilliant turn in "The Devil Wears Prada". She can order the Holocaust/Slavery/Climate Change Lunch-Special Combo at Denny's for all I care, that was a really wickedly good performance.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @Jim Don Bob

  6. @Barnard

    But the lady President (Meryl Streep as a cross between Sarah Palin and Donald Trump) is too busy with the midterm elections to implement the federal bureaucracy’s foolproof plans.
     
    So the rest of the world governments liberal Hollywood types always tell are so much better than the dumb rubes in the United States just go along with ignoring the meteor? This sounds even dumber than the 2004 movie The Day After Tomorrow, which climate change alarmists hated because it made them look like idiots. Please tell me that in the end humanity is saved by a group of diverse scientists who blow up the meteor with their sheer brain power. I hope the cast of Hidden Figures at least makes a cameo appearance to do all the really hard math needed to save the day.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Ben tillman, @Wilkey

    The Russians, Chinese and somebody else (the French?) get together and try something.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @Steve Sailer

    Just read the spoilers from a liberal geek who liked the movie, this movie sounds terrible. I hope the CCP has the good sense to ban this movie from being streamed in China.

    Replies: @Kronos

  7. Avoid the celluloid.

    • LOL: SafeNow
  8. So, Don’t Look at It.

  9. Scott Alexander had a review: https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/movie-review-dont-look-up

    If Steve was in the movie, he’d make one or two posts saying the comet was real, then would say nothing more to avoid angering his donors.

    It fails as an allegory for climate change because the comet is actually a falsifiable prediction. Whereas climate change disaster predictions are more religious-type unfalsafiables e.g. “some bad thing will happen somewhere some time.”

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave, J.Ross
    • Replies: @Half Canadian
    @Alexander Turok

    This is the biggest problem for the analogy. The comet can be seen, it’s course calculated, etc. The number of climate disasters predicted are enormous, but the few have materialized.

    Replies: @Alrenous, @Chrisnonymous

  10. who is more aware of the night sky: downtown Democrats or rural Republicans?

    Lol.

    I can’t resist one anecdote.

    A big city relative visited us a while back.

    We live way out in the boonies, surrounded by state forest.

    It was a nice day so we were walking the dog–well, actually the dog was running free–and the dog ran into the state forest and squatted.

    Says city relative: “Where is your pooper scooper?”

    You can’t make up this stuff!

    • Thanks: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @siberiancat
    @Justvisiting


    Says city relative: “Where is your pooper scooper?”
     
    People asked me on more than one occasion in remote state parks: how far is the restroom?
    So funny! Perhaps it is my Siberian upbringing.
    , @S. Anonyia
    @Justvisiting

    Maybe it is such a remote state forest this point doesn’t really apply, but: If there are trails in the forest your dog was roaming, hikers and runners don’t want to step in dog poop.

    At least he was thinking of scooping poop. People who let their dogs off leash at the park closest to my house often let them take a dump wherever they please- soccer fields, sidewalk, frisbee golf courses, running trails, etc,

    Replies: @Justvisiting

  11. OT – male head of UK Cats Protection League resigns after discovering that the female head of the trustees lives in a three-bed house with 18 cats adopted from the charity. A real cat-lady.

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/jan/20/cats-protection-ceo-steps-down-after-trustee-found-to-keep-18-cats

    The UK (or Guardian) is producing some very odd stories.

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/jan/20/story-inspired-by-near-miss-with-fred-west-wins-the-portico-prize

    Sally J Morgan has won the Portico prize for her debut novel, which was inspired by her experience of being offered a lift by the serial killers Fred and Rosemary West.

    Morgan’s Toto Among the Murderers, set in Leeds and Sheffield in the 1970s, follows the lives of Jude – known to her friends as Toto – and other women as violence moves closer, and the Wests stalk the country. It beat titles including Andrew O’Hagan’s Mayflies and Jenn Ashworth’s Ghosted to the £10,000 Portico prize, which goes to outstanding writing “that best evokes the spirit of the north of England”.

    That is very odd, because in the 1970s, and indeed until police started investigating their crimes, no one was worried about the Wests, because no one had heard of them, and their modus operandi was to murder those who lived transient existences. It was a chap called the Yorkshire Ripper who put women in fear. The Wests only became notorious in the 1990s, after being arrested.

    https://www.city-journal.org/html/horror-story-12312.html

    Gloucester is a small cathedral city of about 100,000, where the city council has conclusively demonstrated that with the right combination of 1960s urban planning and an undiscriminating welfare policy, the degraded inner city conditions of much larger conurbations may be successfully reproduced in small country towns.

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
    @YetAnotherAnon


    That is very odd, because in the 1970s, and indeed until police started investigating their crimes, no one was worried about the Wests, because no one had heard of them, and their modus operandi was to murder those who lived transient existences.
     
    Yes, the Guardian story is odd. The Wests operated within a 30 mile radius of Gloucester, far from Leeds and Sheffield, and like a lot of serial killers they were good at spotting people who would not be missed. A lot of girls refused lifts from the Wests, because they knew it was unwise to accept a lift from a stranger; and only when the story broke 15 years later did they realise how close they had come to death. They had not forgotten their casual encounter with the Wests because, as Theodore Dalrymple puts it in the City Journal article,

    Indeed, there was something distinctly odd about the murderer's appearance: he looked like an intermediate stage in the transformation of man into werewolf.
     

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @YetAnotherAnon

    "It was a chap called the Yorkshire Ripper"

    Any truth in the rumour that Peter Sutcliffe and Jimmy Savile were mates?

    Replies: @Gordo, @YetAnotherAnon

  12. It’s more like they want you to look up so that you won’t look down and notice you’re sinking into the quicksand of globalism.

  13. “Jennifer Lawrence (with a distracting nose ring — a nose ring on a young woman portends Trouble with a Capital T, except in this movie) playing astronomers who discover a comet that is about to hit the earth and exterminate the human race.”

    Well, she does die (as does almost everyone else). Though not at all because of the nose ring!

    • Replies: @PaceLaw
    @RyeFrost 2018

    So this is a feel good movie after all?

  14. @Steve Sailer
    @Barnard

    The Russians, Chinese and somebody else (the French?) get together and try something.

    Replies: @Barnard

    Just read the spoilers from a liberal geek who liked the movie, this movie sounds terrible. I hope the CCP has the good sense to ban this movie from being streamed in China.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Barnard

    I still want to see the most popular Chinese film of all time. “ The Battle at Lake Changjin” is a pro-Chinese film concerning the Korean War. So far, I don’t think it’s allowed in the US yet even for streaming.

    https://youtu.be/1aHDj84CcsY

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @PaceLaw

  15. I was bored by it. It just was not well done.

  16. This was an all-star cast with very capable actors that was dragged down by its script and directing. With a cast this talented, it could have been so much better.

    I had the feeling that this movie was made at the moment of peak “Trump is a Science Denialist who is going to get us all killed” Covid/climate hysteria, so that by the time that it reached the screen in the Age of Biden, its moment had passed. Parody should be played somewhat broadly but this was a little TOO broad to the point where you couldn’t grant the necessary suspension of disbelief in the service of comedy. No one is as stupid and self centered as the Streep character and her son, not even Kamala.

    Oddly, the science fictiony scenes (I won’t offer any more spoilers) were the most successful because you were clearly in a fantasy world where the absurd is not unexpected.

    Similarly, I liked Rylance as the weird tech billionaire Steve Jobs/ Musk type character – he was strange enough to be real.

    I just couldn’t accept that someone (even a Trump stand in seen thru Hollywood liberal eyes) could sit in the Oval Office and act like a Three Stooges character. The Stooges would have given a more nuanced performance.

    • Replies: @EdwardM
    @Jack D

    This is exactly what I expected the film to be based on the summary. Conservatives (and corporate executives) are cretins if not demons, liberals and the media are angels, and the government will come to the rescue. They can't avoid the heavy-handedness, which is probably helped along further by their belief that the core non-ideological movie-going audience is too stupid to be subjected to any nuance of ambiguity.

    It would almost be better if it were an outwardly over-the-top slapstick like the Three Stooges. Instead, these caricatures reflect precisely the way the cultural left views the right. These ham-fisted, not-funny portrayals go back in my memory to The West Wing and I am sure much farther.

    Replies: @Rooster12, @Jack D

  17. anon[454] • Disclaimer says:

    Also, he’s always had a weird looking face, so he always needs to diet down to what I imagine he finds an uncomfortable leanness to not look puffy.

    He’s not a very good looking man. He has a boyish face that worked for him as a kid and teen, but hasn’t aged well.

    • Disagree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @anon

    That's very typical for child actors. As is being short. The Harry Potter guy is like 5'5" in his elevator shoes. DiCaprio at least grew to an average height - he didn't really get started in acting until he was in his late teens.

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow

    , @Meretricious
    @anon

    Leo was not playing a leading man in film--Chubby Leo was perfect for the comic role. OTOH the film was just horrible, and that was 100% on McKay

    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @anon

    Camille Paglia said that peak pretty-boy Leo looked like a 14 year old lesbian.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)

  18. Anon[141] • Disclaimer says:

    Apparently, Don’t Look Up is what Americans want these days: a mediocre movie they can argue over politically without the distractions of good performances, witty lines, or clever plotting.

    What a perfect observation. Can you write a full post expanding on this? Not sure anyone else has put it so plainly.

    • Replies: @Abe
    @Anon



    Apparently, Don’t Look Up is what Americans want these days: a mediocre movie they can argue over politically without the distractions of good performances, witty lines, or clever plotting.
     
    What a perfect observation. Can you write a full post expanding on this? Not sure anyone else has put it so plainly.
     
    Tim Dillon had a similar Rabelaisian, slow-burn, going-the-scenic-route-to-blotto-so-I-may-as-well-do-it-with-lite-beer take on this earlier (7:43):

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8gD_OCmgTFg&t=7m34s

  19. @anon

    Also, he’s always had a weird looking face, so he always needs to diet down to what I imagine he finds an uncomfortable leanness to not look puffy.
     
    He's not a very good looking man. He has a boyish face that worked for him as a kid and teen, but hasn't aged well.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Meretricious, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    That’s very typical for child actors. As is being short. The Harry Potter guy is like 5’5″ in his elevator shoes. DiCaprio at least grew to an average height – he didn’t really get started in acting until he was in his late teens.

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    @Jack D

    I think DiCaprio is actually 6'0", you notice he is taller then both Matt Damon and Brad Pitt, both of whom he has been in movies with.

    Replies: @guest007, @Change that Matters, @PiltdownMan, @Bardon Kaldian

  20. @Jack D
    @anon

    That's very typical for child actors. As is being short. The Harry Potter guy is like 5'5" in his elevator shoes. DiCaprio at least grew to an average height - he didn't really get started in acting until he was in his late teens.

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow

    I think DiCaprio is actually 6’0″, you notice he is taller then both Matt Damon and Brad Pitt, both of whom he has been in movies with.

    • Replies: @guest007
    @Unladen Swallow

    Actors are usually shorter than average but actresses are usually larger than average because it makes the blocking of the shots easier. Tall actors and short actresses make the cinematography harder.

    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ScullyBox

    Replies: @TWS

    , @Change that Matters
    @Unladen Swallow

    DiCaprio is 1.83 m (6'0")

    Pitt is 1.8 m (slightly under 5'11")

    Matt Damon is 1.78 m (slightly over 5'10")

    Replies: @TWS

    , @PiltdownMan
    @Unladen Swallow

    I hope they make a movie someday soon with Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, and Mark Wahlberg as co- leads. It would be a pleasantly confusing experience.

    The Departed, from 2006, had two of them and DiCaprio, and was fun, for that (and other) reasons.

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Unladen Swallow

    Say what you want, but both Pitt & Di Caprio can act.

    They're much better than oldies like Wayne or Cooper. Not to mention Errol Flynn, who was a very interesting character, but a dreadful actor.

  21. After all, who is more aware of the night sky: downtown Democrats or rural Republicans?

    I looked at Halley’s Comet through the old telescope at Greenwich. Well, at hundreds of white dots, one of which we were told was Halley’s.

    Hale-Bopp and Hyakutake weren’t much better. We need fewer lights, or better comets.

    • Agree: The Anti-Gnostic
    • Replies: @WJ
    @Reg Cæsar

    Halley's comet in 86 was a dud. Too much hype and I don't even remember actually seeing it. Hale-Bopp in 97 was actually memorable and interesting. Probably because I kept my expectations low.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired

    , @Lurker
    @Reg Cæsar

    I remember Hale-Bopp, it was very clear over many nights. I even got bored of checking it out.

    , @Old Prude
    @Reg Cæsar

    Hyakutake was a bust, despite having a cool name. Hale-Bopp put on a good show despite having a goofy name, but it reinforced that most celestial events are boring: It just stayed there night after night, never streaking across the sky as I imagined in my childhood.

    Likewise meteor showers. Instead of a sky filled with falling stars, there is just a streak every minute or so. Saturn was impressive through a telescope - once. Lunar eclipse? Yawn.

    Large meteors burning up through the atmosphere and exploding seem to live up to the hype. Otherwise, in a human life span, the night sky is pretty, but boring.

  22. Great to have a shout-out to _This is the End_, a stoner movie that, if it had any conscious commentary embedded within it, was an attack on fundamentalists who believe in the Rapture, but in fact basically skewered every idiot who makes a living in Hollywood. Sometimes movies wind up great by accident.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @John Milton's Ghost

    The only characters in "This Is the End" who figure out what's going on are the Catholic French Canadian and the black Baptist. All the secular Jews (Rogen, Hill, Franco, etc.) are completely clueless.

    , @Hapalong Cassidy
    @John Milton's Ghost

    I’ve been meaning to watch “This is the End” but I don’t think I can bring myself to watch anything with Seth Rogen in it now that he’s outed himself as a Jewish Supremacist.

    , @Sam Haysom
    @John Milton's Ghost

    I’m sure Steve will be along to correctly point out why this is a pretty low level take- first off the Rapture happens being a complete vindication of fundamentalists and it is the only the Christian by upbringing characters that figure out what is going on.

    If I recall Steve even thinks he’s figured out the denomination of the fat black dude that’s in all the Pizza Hut commercial’s character.

  23. A couple of underrated comedies worth a look:

    PCU (a young Jeremy Piven and Jon Favreau, a cameo-ish role by David Spade) that takes to task the PC (U) atmosphere of university life (except the sport jacket sporting Republicans end up being the bad guys)

    Grandma’s Boy, starting pretty much the entirety of Adam Sandler’s supporting cast he uses in every one of his films, except without Adam Sandler (although he produces.) Grandma is played by the mother from Everyone Loves Raymond and she’s a riot.

    And speaking of nose rings – half the middle aged softball moms I am acquainted with sport them. So I think the idea that they represent damaged goods is no longer anymore likely than just a typical female seeking an accessory that draws attention. And while jewelry can sometimes enhance a woman’s appearance, nose rings do nothing to add to a female’s looks in any positive way.

    Lastly, I’ll never knowingly see one of this McKay guy’s flicks. Another Hollywood loser with an axe to grind.

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    @Mike Tre

    And speaking of nose rings – half the middle aged softball moms I am acquainted with sport them. So I think the idea that they represent damaged goods is no longer anymore likely than just a typical female seeking an accessory that draws attention. And while jewelry can sometimes enhance a woman’s appearance, nose rings do nothing to add to a female’s looks in any positive way.

    ---
    Just older hos, that's all. Every ho gets older eventually. And those tats and pump-n-dumps look great on a 55 year old.

    , @David Davenport
    @Mike Tre

    And speaking of nose rings – half the middle aged softball moms I am acquainted with sport them.

    And all the middle aged Moms with tattoos that have normal-looking children.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    , @Ben tillman
    @Mike Tre

    They sound like damaged goods to me. They are aesthetically damaged, physically damaged, and likely damaged in the sense you are talking about.

  24. @Muggles
    Another reason to avoid going to the movies.

    Replies: @guest007, @duncsbaby

    It is on Netflix. One watches from home.

  25. Interestingly, NASA is currently flying a “planetary defense” mission called DART to impact a very small asteroid (actually a moonlet of a not much bigger asteroid). This is to measure how much the orbital period of the moonlet is changed by the impact and whether this would be an effective approach for nudging a threatening asteroid away from an earth impact. This would most likely need to be many months to years in advance of a predicted impact. NASA actually has a planetary defense office and Congress has funded it to find and characterize near-earth objects that are “potentially threatening.” The impact is next September 26. The mission was launched by one of autistic billionaire Elon Musk’s SpaceX rockets.

    • Thanks: bomag
    • Replies: @Gordo
    @Bill in Glendale


    Interestingly, NASA is currently flying a “planetary defense” mission called DART to impact a very small asteroid
     
    What could possibly go wrong?

    Replies: @Pat009

  26. @Alexander Turok
    Scott Alexander had a review: https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/movie-review-dont-look-up

    If Steve was in the movie, he'd make one or two posts saying the comet was real, then would say nothing more to avoid angering his donors.

    It fails as an allegory for climate change because the comet is actually a falsifiable prediction. Whereas climate change disaster predictions are more religious-type unfalsafiables e.g. "some bad thing will happen somewhere some time."

    Replies: @Half Canadian

    This is the biggest problem for the analogy. The comet can be seen, it’s course calculated, etc. The number of climate disasters predicted are enormous, but the few have materialized.

    • Replies: @Alrenous
    @Half Canadian

    It's a Poe's law movie. You have to realize it's almost all projection.

    If there was a real problem the DNC would absolutely tell you it's not a real problem. They might even say that mentioning the problem is racist. When there's real, feasible solutions, they will actively campaign against them. E.g. nuclear and geoengineering.

    IRL the more activated they got about the comet, the more sure you could be it was going to miss. If they went all quiet and tried to distract you, then you should maybe worry. (On the other hand, worrying doesn't deflect comets, so maybe they would be onto something.)

    There are many reasons for this. One is the political: if you can take credit for a problem that's going to "solve" itself, while never letting a "crisis" go to waste, that's a huge win. By contrast, seriously addressing a real problem and failing to affect it would be very embarrassing - better to pretend it's not a problem.

    I'm trying to think of a time where leftist hysteria was not almost perfectly inversely proportional to the threat, but I'm not coming up with anything.

    Replies: @guest007, @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Half Canadian

    Yeah, it would be a better analogy if there were an entire asteroid field intersecting with Earth's orbit and some people were predicting every asteroid was going to strike Earth but already a number had failed to do so.

  27. @Unladen Swallow
    @Jack D

    I think DiCaprio is actually 6'0", you notice he is taller then both Matt Damon and Brad Pitt, both of whom he has been in movies with.

    Replies: @guest007, @Change that Matters, @PiltdownMan, @Bardon Kaldian

    Actors are usually shorter than average but actresses are usually larger than average because it makes the blocking of the shots easier. Tall actors and short actresses make the cinematography harder.

    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ScullyBox

    • Replies: @TWS
    @guest007

    I'm rather tall my wife is more than a foot shorter than I am. My friend is so short I either have to sit down or she has to stand on a chair to be in a picture together.

    I see The Rock with some woman in a movie and either he's in a ditch or she's on a raised walkway because their eyes are nearly the same level.

  28. I was absolutely never going to see it, but I feel better about that decision after reading this.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  29. @anon

    Also, he’s always had a weird looking face, so he always needs to diet down to what I imagine he finds an uncomfortable leanness to not look puffy.
     
    He's not a very good looking man. He has a boyish face that worked for him as a kid and teen, but hasn't aged well.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Meretricious, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Leo was not playing a leading man in film–Chubby Leo was perfect for the comic role. OTOH the film was just horrible, and that was 100% on McKay

  30. Movie fans look forward to March, when they can watch that puerile, awards show; sports fans the 0.5^63 lottery. I dread the month due to the off-[off]-year, school bond questions that are scheduled then (i.e. that the politicians try to sneak through).

    In the category of “most abusive, school tax increase of the calendar quarter”, the nominees include:

    • Guilford County (Greensboro, NC) School Destruct (also the odds-on favorite to win): a \$1.7B bond + a 1/4-¢ boost in the sales tax; it was not even two years ago when voters gave the district \$300M.

    •Two, small \$ districts in Idaho (sentimental favorites): local leftists want to build/repair schools to accommodate all the Californians moving up there.

  31. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT - male head of UK Cats Protection League resigns after discovering that the female head of the trustees lives in a three-bed house with 18 cats adopted from the charity. A real cat-lady.

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/jan/20/cats-protection-ceo-steps-down-after-trustee-found-to-keep-18-cats

    The UK (or Guardian) is producing some very odd stories.

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/jan/20/story-inspired-by-near-miss-with-fred-west-wins-the-portico-prize

    Sally J Morgan has won the Portico prize for her debut novel, which was inspired by her experience of being offered a lift by the serial killers Fred and Rosemary West.

    Morgan’s Toto Among the Murderers, set in Leeds and Sheffield in the 1970s, follows the lives of Jude – known to her friends as Toto – and other women as violence moves closer, and the Wests stalk the country. It beat titles including Andrew O’Hagan’s Mayflies and Jenn Ashworth’s Ghosted to the £10,000 Portico prize, which goes to outstanding writing “that best evokes the spirit of the north of England”.

     

    That is very odd, because in the 1970s, and indeed until police started investigating their crimes, no one was worried about the Wests, because no one had heard of them, and their modus operandi was to murder those who lived transient existences. It was a chap called the Yorkshire Ripper who put women in fear. The Wests only became notorious in the 1990s, after being arrested.

    https://www.city-journal.org/html/horror-story-12312.html

    Gloucester is a small cathedral city of about 100,000, where the city council has conclusively demonstrated that with the right combination of 1960s urban planning and an undiscriminating welfare policy, the degraded inner city conditions of much larger conurbations may be successfully reproduced in small country towns.
     

    Replies: @James N. Kennett, @SunBakedSuburb

    That is very odd, because in the 1970s, and indeed until police started investigating their crimes, no one was worried about the Wests, because no one had heard of them, and their modus operandi was to murder those who lived transient existences.

    Yes, the Guardian story is odd. The Wests operated within a 30 mile radius of Gloucester, far from Leeds and Sheffield, and like a lot of serial killers they were good at spotting people who would not be missed. A lot of girls refused lifts from the Wests, because they knew it was unwise to accept a lift from a stranger; and only when the story broke 15 years later did they realise how close they had come to death. They had not forgotten their casual encounter with the Wests because, as Theodore Dalrymple puts it in the City Journal article,

    Indeed, there was something distinctly odd about the murderer’s appearance: he looked like an intermediate stage in the transformation of man into werewolf.

    • Thanks: Ben tillman
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @James N. Kennett

    I'm tempted to wonder whether Sally J Morgan is being a tad creative with her story of refusing a lift from the Wests.


    "Her childhood was nomadic, following her father’s career in the motor trade across the UK. She studied painting in Sheffield and at the Royal Academy of Fine Arts in Antwerp. After graduating, life was a series of adventures and freelance projects. She was an archaeological digger, published cartoon strips, exhibited art, and lived from hand to mouth until she got a job as an art school lecturer. Later, she moved to New Zealand to teach at Massey University in Wellington. She lives in Berhampore with her wife, author and artist Jess Richards."
     
    "Nomadic" is a pretty creative way of saying you moved houses as a child. I doubt her father erected his tent outside a different garage every week.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/a-small-grey-car-the-day-i-refused-a-lift-from-fred-and-rosemary-west-1.4404569

    She was born summer 51, so it's possible. Rose West gave birth to a son in summer 1973.

    While hitchhiking at a traffic roundabout outside Gloucester in 1973, a small grey car pulled up and a nondescript pregnant woman and a curly-haired man offered me a lift, which I refused. They drove away without me, but I never forgot the encounter.

    I used to talk about it to my friends as my most unnerving hitching moment, and we would try to work out why it had unsettled me more than the lorry drivers who tried to grope me, or the guy who carried a gun in the boot, or the salesman who was out of his head on speed.
     
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2021/mar/23/i-had-a-narrow-escape-from-fred-and-rosemary-west-the-sense-of-being-prey-haunts-me

    In my early 20s I narrowly missed getting into a car with the serial killers Fred and Rosemary West. I needed a lift. They stopped and offered me one. But when I looked into Fred West’s eyes, his eyes were full of cruelty. It was like a physical assault that propelled me away from the car.
     
  32. Steve: Leonardo DiCaprio was fat? Good grief, I didn’t even notice! I’m sick of movie stars who look like they work out 8 hours a day. They look gay. He looked fine, sort of like a normal man. anonymous: “He’s not a very good looking man” wtf.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    @Red Pill Angel

    He looked anonymous and like a normal man because the typical American is quite fat...

    Replies: @Red Pill Angel

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Red Pill Angel


    He’s not a very good looking man” wtf.
     
    DiCraprio has on-screen charisma. This makes him "attractive" to many people, but he's not actually very good looking. My wife recognizes this too.

    Cate Blanchett was miscast. She is attractive but in an unusual/exotic way. Cable news reporters are inevitably attractive in very usual ways.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  33. I agree with you about Chalamet, Steve.

    What do you think of the recent “Macbeth” movie?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Not Raul

    Haven't seen Joel Coen's Macbeth.

    It would be interesting to know whether the Coen Brothers finally taking a hiatus from each other had to do with Joel's wife Frances McDormand's diversity waiver speech at the Oscars? I pointed out the next day that the Coen Brothers' movies are both very good and very white.

    I've long admired how the Coen Brothers have managed to avoid splitting up due to sibling rivalry and how they have therefore been an inspiration to other pairs of brothers. But now they aren't working together on Joel's "Macbeth."

    I presume Joel feels that casting his wife opposite the greatest black leading man, Denzel, is a clever solution for his marital problem with his wife demanding diversity without giving in and casting an inept black actor. Will Denzel make a good Macbeth? Maybe, maybe not, but it's hard to say after Denzel's career that he doesn't deserve to try.

    On other other hand, if you are Ethan Coen, maybe your sister-in-law's diversity demands have gotten on your nerves?

    Replies: @Meretricious, @S Johnson, @James of Africa, @The Anti-Gnostic, @NorthOfTheOneOhOne, @R.G. Camara, @Mr. Anon, @Harry Baldwin, @keypusher, @Not Raul

  34. @Barnard

    But the lady President (Meryl Streep as a cross between Sarah Palin and Donald Trump) is too busy with the midterm elections to implement the federal bureaucracy’s foolproof plans.
     
    So the rest of the world governments liberal Hollywood types always tell are so much better than the dumb rubes in the United States just go along with ignoring the meteor? This sounds even dumber than the 2004 movie The Day After Tomorrow, which climate change alarmists hated because it made them look like idiots. Please tell me that in the end humanity is saved by a group of diverse scientists who blow up the meteor with their sheer brain power. I hope the cast of Hidden Figures at least makes a cameo appearance to do all the really hard math needed to save the day.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Ben tillman, @Wilkey

    Okay, good point.

  35. @Reg Cæsar

    After all, who is more aware of the night sky: downtown Democrats or rural Republicans?
     
    I looked at Halley's Comet through the old telescope at Greenwich. Well, at hundreds of white dots, one of which we were told was Halley's.

    Hale-Bopp and Hyakutake weren't much better. We need fewer lights, or better comets.

    Replies: @WJ, @Lurker, @Old Prude

    Halley’s comet in 86 was a dud. Too much hype and I don’t even remember actually seeing it. Hale-Bopp in 97 was actually memorable and interesting. Probably because I kept my expectations low.

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
    @WJ

    I don't recall a cult full of eunuchs drinking poison and committing mass suicide when Halley's comet passed by. Hale-Bopp had that spaceship in the tail for them to beam up to.

  36. That Timotheé motherfucker could cure cancer, and I’ll still want to punch him for how he spells his name.

    • Agree: Lurker
    • Replies: @Moses
    @G23

    Lol well said.

  37. Apparently, Don’t Look Up is what Americans want these days: a mediocre movie they can argue over politically without the distractions of good performances, witty lines, or clever plotting.

    Very true. So I tried being Asian for a few hours, and viewed the Japanese film “Wife of a Spy,” which won best picture and best actress at the 2021 Asian film awards. Yu Aoi portrays a young woman in pre-WWII Japan who comes to believe that her husband is – – you guessed it – – a spy. She struggles and she evolves as she copes with conflicting loyalties: husband, friends, country, justice – – and frightening governmental forces. Yu is lovely, the husband is not pudgy, and, the film is intelligent, well acted, and cleverly plotted. A chick flick? Yes and no, a long story.

  38. The trouble with satire is that, to do it well, you must first understand a lot and sympathize a little with the POV you are satirizing.

    McKay doesn’t seem to understand his ideological opposites at all (shades of the failed lefty Turing test when it comes to impersonating righties), and he certainly doesn’t sympathize with them. Almost all of his Ferrell satirical collabortations (Anchorman, Talladega Nights, Land of the Lost) have a black-and-white hatred of the people who they are spoofing on or who originally liked the material. He and Ferrell simply hate people not like them, especially middle america.

    He’ll always have a home preaching to the Hollywood Hate Choir, but his career seems to be one of increasingly diminishing returns as the average joe avoids his stuff, knowing McKay hates him.

    I could honestly see McKay, if his career hits the skids, assaulting someone for disagreeing with him politically.

  39. @G23
    That Timotheé motherfucker could cure cancer, and I’ll still want to punch him for how he spells his name.

    Replies: @Moses

    Lol well said.

  40. McKay did a very funny movie,of course,that being “Anchorman.” It was bogged down and not quite as funny as it could’ve been because he overlayed this feminist bullshit on it. It was about how men don’t respect the trailblazing woman,ad nauseum.
    Had he had the nerve to parody the women as much as the men,it could’ve been a top tier comedy.
    I saw it in a theatre with a fair number of Mexicans,and when Ben Stiller cried,”Policia!!”, it got a big laugh.
    McKay is a pooftah.
    BTW I used to watch Ron Hunter on WMAQ tv news here in Chicago. He was the basis for the Ferrell character. He was very,very funny,in an unintentional way. He was paired with a chad named Mike Henry,who was kind of an anchorman too.
    You may recall the cameo from Bill Kurtis. 😉

  41. @Not Raul
    I agree with you about Chalamet, Steve.

    What do you think of the recent “Macbeth” movie?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Haven’t seen Joel Coen’s Macbeth.

    It would be interesting to know whether the Coen Brothers finally taking a hiatus from each other had to do with Joel’s wife Frances McDormand’s diversity waiver speech at the Oscars? I pointed out the next day that the Coen Brothers’ movies are both very good and very white.

    I’ve long admired how the Coen Brothers have managed to avoid splitting up due to sibling rivalry and how they have therefore been an inspiration to other pairs of brothers. But now they aren’t working together on Joel’s “Macbeth.”

    I presume Joel feels that casting his wife opposite the greatest black leading man, Denzel, is a clever solution for his marital problem with his wife demanding diversity without giving in and casting an inept black actor. Will Denzel make a good Macbeth? Maybe, maybe not, but it’s hard to say after Denzel’s career that he doesn’t deserve to try.

    On other other hand, if you are Ethan Coen, maybe your sister-in-law’s diversity demands have gotten on your nerves?

    • Replies: @Meretricious
    @Steve Sailer

    my very smart theater friends tell me Coen's Macbeth, while visually beautiful, is a mess (Washinhton is miscast and the script's meter is all wrong). Many Coen fans are now speculating that Ethan may be the real brains behind the Coens' magic

    , @S Johnson
    @Steve Sailer

    Ethan seems likely to have the more uncompromising patrician politics of the pair—studied philosophy at Princeton (writing his thesis on Wittgenstein) while Joel went to film school, does highbrow side projects like publishing his poems and short stories, married an editor while Joel married a leading actress. The title poem of his poetry collection, “The Drunken Driver has the Right of Way” is about how loud stupidity tends to win out over reason:


    The most attentive and unfailing
    Carefulness is unavailing
    Wheresoever fools are flailing;
    Wisdom there is held at bay
     
    Joel would seem to have more patience in dealing with the film industry, being the more public-facing and taking their early directing credits. So it would make sense if Ethan got fed up first with increasing diversity demands.

    Replies: @Meretricious, @Steve Sailer

    , @James of Africa
    @Steve Sailer

    Sometimes it does work. My favorite whiteface role was that of James Earl Jones as Thulsa Doom in Conan the Barbarian. I can't imagine anyone else playing that role. The Coen brothers might pull it off, even if divided, it could be interesting.

    Replies: @Skyler the Weird

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Steve Sailer

    Will Denzel make a good Macbeth? Maybe, maybe not, but it’s hard to say after Denzel’s career that he doesn’t deserve to try.

    Of course. Just like the distinguished Liam Neeson deserves a shot at portraying Shaka Zulu.

    Replies: @Meretricious, @Steve Sailer

    , @NorthOfTheOneOhOne
    @Steve Sailer

    Will Denzel make a good Macbeth? Maybe, maybe not, but it’s hard to say after Denzel’s career that he doesn’t deserve to try.

    Do not get your hopes up. I remember seeing Denzel in one of Kenneth Branagh's Shakespeare movies back in the 90's. I was not impressed; although to be fair it's not easy to look good doing Shakespeare along side Branagh.

    , @R.G. Camara
    @Steve Sailer

    In saner times, casting a black man as the lead in MacBeth would generate many good thought-provoking pieces on casting and the limits on a suspension of disbelief, but all with the stated caveats that the black actor must actually be good in the role and it not merely be a diversity stunt.

    Nowadays, even saying that last part would be grounds for cancellation, termination, and castigation.

    That said, the choice of Denzel is interesting, beyond race. Although he has successfully played a tough guy/ heavy/bad guy before (Training Day), he has long been playing the smart hero role, and his long time pretty boy/boyish good looks and open Christianity seem to be hindrances to playing a thuggish, manipulated, power-hungry medieval warrior. It would be like a handsome, religious Tom Hanks playing Macbeth.

    Still, I wouldn't bet against Denzel or a Cohen brother. Far too much talent and inside-movie-industry smarts not to pull it off.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Steve Sailer


    I’ve long admired how the Coen Brothers have managed to avoid splitting up due to sibling rivalry and how they have therefore been an inspiration to other pairs of brothers.
     
    And they managed to stay men too, unlike those Matrix weirdos.

    I presume Joel feels that casting his wife opposite the greatest black leading man, Denzel, is a clever solution for his marital problem with his wife demanding diversity without giving in and casting an inept black actor. Will Denzel make a good Macbeth? Maybe, maybe not, but it’s hard to say after Denzel’s career that he doesn’t deserve to try.
     
    I don't like the anachronistic casting of POC's as whites in historical roles, but I don't mind it in Shakespeare, Opera, Greek drama, and the like. That is art, not history. The words are more important than the visual impression, and anybody who can speak (or sing) the lines to draw out the meaning is welcome to the role, as far as I'm concerned.

    I've always thought that Washington was a pretty good actor. I could see him as MacBeth.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Steve Sailer

    Notice Frances McDormand didn't diversify herself out of a role in Macbeth. McDormand is a good actress but I think her career would have petered out awhile ago were she not married to Joel Coen. I wouldn't say that about Helena Bonham Carter, who made six movies with Tim Burton while they were married but has done fine since then without him.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @R.G. Camara

    , @keypusher
    @Steve Sailer

    Washington and McDormand are both too old for their parts, and he has a big, solid, blocky body that just isn't right for Macbeth. He looks almost like he's wearing overalls. Also, if you pay attention to the language, Macbeth talks about his own skin color from time to time ("Cancel and tear to pieces that great bond which keeps me pale", etc.), so that's disconcerting. Those of us of a certain age will never reconcile ourselves to "colorblind" casting, I guess. Anyway, I don't think Macbeth is supposed to act like he just took a Xanax.

    It has its points (Kathyrn Hunter as the weird sisters is great), but overall this production left me wondering why they bothered. Seeing the dutiful positive reviews reinforces my sense that we're all playing forgettable parts in a tiresome play that should have closed long ago.

    , @Not Raul
    @Steve Sailer


    Will Denzel make a good Macbeth? Maybe, maybe not, but it’s hard to say after Denzel’s career that he doesn’t deserve to try.
     
    I saw the movie. Denzel is a fantastic Macbeth.

    I think that the brothers tend to put a lot of humor in their films. This one didn’t have much humor, so perhaps that’s why the other brother wasn’t interested.
  42. OOF! Oh well, Some things never change. The most rare talent in Hollywood is screenwriting. Bad script guarantees a stinker, and most scripts (the version they film and release, anyhow…) are so bad they wouldn’t burn if soaked in diesel.

    It’s nothing new, either. The overwhelming majority movies (films, for you auters…) have always been stinkers. Truly not worth the time to watch except as a source of horrible fascination.

    • Replies: @Meretricious
    @Brian Reilly

    lots of good writers working now--have you seen The Queen's Gambit? lots of talent out there. Keep looking

    , @Fluesterwitz
    @Brian Reilly

    Sturgeon's Law: 90% of everything is trash.
    Of course, your 10% and mine need not overlap, completely or at all.

    Replies: @Alrenous

  43. “Don’t Look Up”

    Too late.

  44. @John Milton's Ghost
    Great to have a shout-out to _This is the End_, a stoner movie that, if it had any conscious commentary embedded within it, was an attack on fundamentalists who believe in the Rapture, but in fact basically skewered every idiot who makes a living in Hollywood. Sometimes movies wind up great by accident.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Hapalong Cassidy, @Sam Haysom

    The only characters in “This Is the End” who figure out what’s going on are the Catholic French Canadian and the black Baptist. All the secular Jews (Rogen, Hill, Franco, etc.) are completely clueless.

  45. I bet Steve’s review is more entertaining than the movie. Nice job.

  46. …which rhymes with p…

    The last picture I saw through to the end was Spellbound, a 1945 Hitchcock masterpiece with a Ben Hecht script, a surreal dream sequence by Dali, produced by “Zero,” starring Ingrid Bergman and Greg Peck, with a featured performance by Michael Chekov, and brilliant work by actors so obscure you don’t even recognize their faces, much less their names (e.g., two guys playing detectives who are so in tune with each other, they don’t even have to finish each other’s sentences). Oh, and Miklós Rózsa composed a score so overwhelming–including the use of a theremin–that Hitch refused to ever work with him again! The Master of Suspense complained that the composer upstaged his direction. But at least, Rózsa won an Oscar, at a time when the Oscar meant something.

    I try not to watch pictures made after Saving Private Ryan (1998).

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Nicholas Stix

    There's been a lot of movies I enjoyed post 1998. Just off the top of my head:

    Blackhawk Down
    City of God
    District 9
    Dredd
    End of Watch
    Eternal Sunshine of the Spotted Mind
    Grand Budapest Hotel, The
    Hurt Locker, The
    Inception
    Incredibles, The
    Inglorious Basterds (parts were silly, but Landau was amazing)
    Lost in Translation (having done a business trip to the Orient...)
    Lives of Others, The
    Minority Report
    Mud
    Predestination
    Primer
    Talented Mr. Ripley, The
    Unbreakable
    Zodiac

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @J.Ross, @John Johnson

  47. @Brian Reilly
    OOF! Oh well, Some things never change. The most rare talent in Hollywood is screenwriting. Bad script guarantees a stinker, and most scripts (the version they film and release, anyhow...) are so bad they wouldn't burn if soaked in diesel.

    It's nothing new, either. The overwhelming majority movies (films, for you auters...) have always been stinkers. Truly not worth the time to watch except as a source of horrible fascination.

    Replies: @Meretricious, @Fluesterwitz

    lots of good writers working now–have you seen The Queen’s Gambit? lots of talent out there. Keep looking

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  48. as a Rust Belt Christian skate punk, I liked Timothée Chalamet more

    Anthony Huber or Gaige Grosskreutz?

    I bet y’all have forgotten those names already.

    • Replies: @TWS
    @Paperback Writer

    I've met tens of thousands of dirtbags like them. Why in the world would I remember them one day after they were shot unless I was working the case? Other than getting killed by a rifle they really don't stand out that much.

  49. @Steve Sailer
    @Not Raul

    Haven't seen Joel Coen's Macbeth.

    It would be interesting to know whether the Coen Brothers finally taking a hiatus from each other had to do with Joel's wife Frances McDormand's diversity waiver speech at the Oscars? I pointed out the next day that the Coen Brothers' movies are both very good and very white.

    I've long admired how the Coen Brothers have managed to avoid splitting up due to sibling rivalry and how they have therefore been an inspiration to other pairs of brothers. But now they aren't working together on Joel's "Macbeth."

    I presume Joel feels that casting his wife opposite the greatest black leading man, Denzel, is a clever solution for his marital problem with his wife demanding diversity without giving in and casting an inept black actor. Will Denzel make a good Macbeth? Maybe, maybe not, but it's hard to say after Denzel's career that he doesn't deserve to try.

    On other other hand, if you are Ethan Coen, maybe your sister-in-law's diversity demands have gotten on your nerves?

    Replies: @Meretricious, @S Johnson, @James of Africa, @The Anti-Gnostic, @NorthOfTheOneOhOne, @R.G. Camara, @Mr. Anon, @Harry Baldwin, @keypusher, @Not Raul

    my very smart theater friends tell me Coen’s Macbeth, while visually beautiful, is a mess (Washinhton is miscast and the script’s meter is all wrong). Many Coen fans are now speculating that Ethan may be the real brains behind the Coens’ magic

  50. • Replies: @Meretricious
    @Bardon Kaldian

    not FD--LOL. If you signed it Tolstoy I might have Googled it

    , @Alrenous
    @Bardon Kaldian

    De Tocqueville wrote about how this was already de facto the case.

    “I know of no country in which there is so little independence of mind and real freedom of discussion as in America.”

    "Americans are so enamored of equality, they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom."

  51. @Reg Cæsar

    After all, who is more aware of the night sky: downtown Democrats or rural Republicans?
     
    I looked at Halley's Comet through the old telescope at Greenwich. Well, at hundreds of white dots, one of which we were told was Halley's.

    Hale-Bopp and Hyakutake weren't much better. We need fewer lights, or better comets.

    Replies: @WJ, @Lurker, @Old Prude

    I remember Hale-Bopp, it was very clear over many nights. I even got bored of checking it out.

  52. @Steve Sailer
    @Not Raul

    Haven't seen Joel Coen's Macbeth.

    It would be interesting to know whether the Coen Brothers finally taking a hiatus from each other had to do with Joel's wife Frances McDormand's diversity waiver speech at the Oscars? I pointed out the next day that the Coen Brothers' movies are both very good and very white.

    I've long admired how the Coen Brothers have managed to avoid splitting up due to sibling rivalry and how they have therefore been an inspiration to other pairs of brothers. But now they aren't working together on Joel's "Macbeth."

    I presume Joel feels that casting his wife opposite the greatest black leading man, Denzel, is a clever solution for his marital problem with his wife demanding diversity without giving in and casting an inept black actor. Will Denzel make a good Macbeth? Maybe, maybe not, but it's hard to say after Denzel's career that he doesn't deserve to try.

    On other other hand, if you are Ethan Coen, maybe your sister-in-law's diversity demands have gotten on your nerves?

    Replies: @Meretricious, @S Johnson, @James of Africa, @The Anti-Gnostic, @NorthOfTheOneOhOne, @R.G. Camara, @Mr. Anon, @Harry Baldwin, @keypusher, @Not Raul

    Ethan seems likely to have the more uncompromising patrician politics of the pair—studied philosophy at Princeton (writing his thesis on Wittgenstein) while Joel went to film school, does highbrow side projects like publishing his poems and short stories, married an editor while Joel married a leading actress. The title poem of his poetry collection, “The Drunken Driver has the Right of Way” is about how loud stupidity tends to win out over reason:

    The most attentive and unfailing
    Carefulness is unavailing
    Wheresoever fools are flailing;
    Wisdom there is held at bay

    Joel would seem to have more patience in dealing with the film industry, being the more public-facing and taking their early directing credits. So it would make sense if Ethan got fed up first with increasing diversity demands.

    • Replies: @Meretricious
    @S Johnson

    Joel/Ethan were codirecting from the beginning (ignore the credits)

    Replies: @S Johnson

    , @Steve Sailer
    @S Johnson

    Makes sense.

    Still, even though the Coen Brothers have been mildly famous since "Blood Simple" 38 years ago, their distinctive personalities remain vague to even fans like myself. I suspect they planned their indistinct public image as a way to head off sibling rivalry, but I've never heard anyone else speculate about their internal dynamics until now.

    Replies: @Meretricious

  53. Steve is the Undocumented Mexican Migrant of cultural criticism.

  54. Rylance is probably better known for being the male lead in Wolf Hall and The Tunnel.

  55. @Justvisiting

    who is more aware of the night sky: downtown Democrats or rural Republicans?
     
    Lol.

    I can't resist one anecdote.

    A big city relative visited us a while back.

    We live way out in the boonies, surrounded by state forest.

    It was a nice day so we were walking the dog--well, actually the dog was running free--and the dog ran into the state forest and squatted.

    Says city relative: "Where is your pooper scooper?"

    You can't make up this stuff!

    Replies: @siberiancat, @S. Anonyia

    Says city relative: “Where is your pooper scooper?”

    People asked me on more than one occasion in remote state parks: how far is the restroom?
    So funny! Perhaps it is my Siberian upbringing.

  56. @Justvisiting

    who is more aware of the night sky: downtown Democrats or rural Republicans?
     
    Lol.

    I can't resist one anecdote.

    A big city relative visited us a while back.

    We live way out in the boonies, surrounded by state forest.

    It was a nice day so we were walking the dog--well, actually the dog was running free--and the dog ran into the state forest and squatted.

    Says city relative: "Where is your pooper scooper?"

    You can't make up this stuff!

    Replies: @siberiancat, @S. Anonyia

    Maybe it is such a remote state forest this point doesn’t really apply, but: If there are trails in the forest your dog was roaming, hikers and runners don’t want to step in dog poop.

    At least he was thinking of scooping poop. People who let their dogs off leash at the park closest to my house often let them take a dump wherever they please- soccer fields, sidewalk, frisbee golf courses, running trails, etc,

    • Thanks: Alden
    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    @S. Anonyia

    There are no "trails" in the area.

    There are no hikers in the area.

    What can be found are bears and other beasties of various kinds--and I pointed out to the dim relative that I refuse to scoop up their poop.

    ;-)

  57. Very excited to see this film because it’s a Leonardo DiCaprio flick. He embodies the most essential attributes of the modern man who is comfortable in his own machismo:

    1. Misogynist
    2. Loyal, Registered Democrat.

    As a man who is in both categories as well along with being 25% Italian (along with 50% Hungarian, 25% Slovene), I feel a great of kinship towards the fellow.

  58. @Red Pill Angel
    Steve: Leonardo DiCaprio was fat? Good grief, I didn’t even notice! I’m sick of movie stars who look like they work out 8 hours a day. They look gay. He looked fine, sort of like a normal man. anonymous: “He’s not a very good looking man” wtf.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @Chrisnonymous

    He looked anonymous and like a normal man because the typical American is quite fat…

    • Replies: @Red Pill Angel
    @S. Anonyia

    Yeah, I see fat guys like this in Walmart all the time. His face has broadened in middle age but he’s certainly not homely.
    https://www.sickchirpse.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Dont-Look-Up-1000x569.png

    Replies: @S Johnson

  59. Moviewise I tend to live in the past. My strategy when I see something new I might like is to ignore it for a few years until the hype has died down and then pirate it by torrent. Of course it’s illegal to do it here but the law is not enforced. Thanks for the review, it’s clearly better than watching this movie. Dammit it’s a long wait before I can see the new Dune.

  60. @Half Canadian
    Yeah, the plot twist was dumb, and Streep was try-hard. It was an uneven attempt.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    I actually thought it was amusing and better than expected (I had low expectations) until the plot twist. Way downhill from there.

    • Replies: @Bill
    @S. Anonyia

    Elon Musk was the only thing I liked about the movie.

  61. @Bardon Kaldian
    https://i.imgur.com/0PYUsY3.jpg

    Replies: @Meretricious, @Alrenous

    not FD–LOL. If you signed it Tolstoy I might have Googled it

  62. @Steve Sailer
    @Not Raul

    Haven't seen Joel Coen's Macbeth.

    It would be interesting to know whether the Coen Brothers finally taking a hiatus from each other had to do with Joel's wife Frances McDormand's diversity waiver speech at the Oscars? I pointed out the next day that the Coen Brothers' movies are both very good and very white.

    I've long admired how the Coen Brothers have managed to avoid splitting up due to sibling rivalry and how they have therefore been an inspiration to other pairs of brothers. But now they aren't working together on Joel's "Macbeth."

    I presume Joel feels that casting his wife opposite the greatest black leading man, Denzel, is a clever solution for his marital problem with his wife demanding diversity without giving in and casting an inept black actor. Will Denzel make a good Macbeth? Maybe, maybe not, but it's hard to say after Denzel's career that he doesn't deserve to try.

    On other other hand, if you are Ethan Coen, maybe your sister-in-law's diversity demands have gotten on your nerves?

    Replies: @Meretricious, @S Johnson, @James of Africa, @The Anti-Gnostic, @NorthOfTheOneOhOne, @R.G. Camara, @Mr. Anon, @Harry Baldwin, @keypusher, @Not Raul

    Sometimes it does work. My favorite whiteface role was that of James Earl Jones as Thulsa Doom in Conan the Barbarian. I can’t imagine anyone else playing that role. The Coen brothers might pull it off, even if divided, it could be interesting.

    • Replies: @Skyler the Weird
    @James of Africa

    Jones was a great King Lear back in the Seventies too.

  63. @S Johnson
    @Steve Sailer

    Ethan seems likely to have the more uncompromising patrician politics of the pair—studied philosophy at Princeton (writing his thesis on Wittgenstein) while Joel went to film school, does highbrow side projects like publishing his poems and short stories, married an editor while Joel married a leading actress. The title poem of his poetry collection, “The Drunken Driver has the Right of Way” is about how loud stupidity tends to win out over reason:


    The most attentive and unfailing
    Carefulness is unavailing
    Wheresoever fools are flailing;
    Wisdom there is held at bay
     
    Joel would seem to have more patience in dealing with the film industry, being the more public-facing and taking their early directing credits. So it would make sense if Ethan got fed up first with increasing diversity demands.

    Replies: @Meretricious, @Steve Sailer

    Joel/Ethan were codirecting from the beginning (ignore the credits)

    • Replies: @S Johnson
    @Meretricious

    I know, my point was just that JC took the credit as (seemingly) the one who’s better at talking to Hollywood types. Maybe that’s not very significant but coupled with Ethan stepping back from movies first it seems worth noting.

  64. @Half Canadian
    @Alexander Turok

    This is the biggest problem for the analogy. The comet can be seen, it’s course calculated, etc. The number of climate disasters predicted are enormous, but the few have materialized.

    Replies: @Alrenous, @Chrisnonymous

    It’s a Poe’s law movie. You have to realize it’s almost all projection.

    If there was a real problem the DNC would absolutely tell you it’s not a real problem. They might even say that mentioning the problem is racist. When there’s real, feasible solutions, they will actively campaign against them. E.g. nuclear and geoengineering.

    IRL the more activated they got about the comet, the more sure you could be it was going to miss. If they went all quiet and tried to distract you, then you should maybe worry. (On the other hand, worrying doesn’t deflect comets, so maybe they would be onto something.)

    There are many reasons for this. One is the political: if you can take credit for a problem that’s going to “solve” itself, while never letting a “crisis” go to waste, that’s a huge win. By contrast, seriously addressing a real problem and failing to affect it would be very embarrassing – better to pretend it’s not a problem.

    I’m trying to think of a time where leftist hysteria was not almost perfectly inversely proportional to the threat, but I’m not coming up with anything.

    • Replies: @guest007
    @Alrenous

    What the Covid-19 pandemic has shown is that neither Republicans or Democrats have the attention span to deal with any long term, chronic problem. Trump's attention span ran out in weeks. Most of the Republican governors could not keep up any concern for more than six months. Every time there is a down turn in cases the Democrats lose their attention and want to get back to increasing spending or social justice issues. Look at how the George Floyd deaths caused the Democrats to abandon Covid-19 for months. Look at how the Biden Administration lost interest in testing and masks when the Delta wave was subsiding.

    Any political operative should learn the lesson that nothing should be done that is going to take more than 90 days to resolve. Thus, America has to avoid all wars and focus only on small military actions that can be resolved in weeks. A successful politician will learn to avoid issues such as education, homelessness while focusing on short term wins.

    , @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Alrenous


    If there was a real problem the DNC would absolutely tell you it’s not a real problem. They might even say that mentioning the problem is racist. When there’s real, feasible solutions, they will actively campaign against them. E.g. nuclear and geoengineering.
     
    This was my point - in the film, all of the bright people who love science would be running around frustrating any engineering solutions which could divert or address the negative outcomes of the comet, including banning rockets and the nuclear devices which would be necessary to knock a comet off of its path (analogous to sea walls and locks and nuclear power with climate change).

    Also, the in-world Leonardo DiCaprios and Jennifer Lawrences would be buying prime, beachfront comet real estate all the while.

    They'd also be insisting that we can't address the oncoming comet until we end the filibuster, passed the John Lewis Voting Rights Bill, add Justices to the Supreme Court, etc.
  65. Thanks for watching so I won’t bother.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Fran Macadam

    It’s what Steve does for a meager living. He watches what illustrates where our culture is going, even if it’s dreck and then comments on it for our enlightenment and amusement.
    It’s the same reason he reads the NYT in order to document its accelerating descent into insanity and depravity so we don’t have to do it.
    Sadly, we could have ten or a hundred Steve Sailers doing this and still not exhaust the supply of SailerBait being churned out by our decaying culture.

  66. @Steve Sailer
    @Not Raul

    Haven't seen Joel Coen's Macbeth.

    It would be interesting to know whether the Coen Brothers finally taking a hiatus from each other had to do with Joel's wife Frances McDormand's diversity waiver speech at the Oscars? I pointed out the next day that the Coen Brothers' movies are both very good and very white.

    I've long admired how the Coen Brothers have managed to avoid splitting up due to sibling rivalry and how they have therefore been an inspiration to other pairs of brothers. But now they aren't working together on Joel's "Macbeth."

    I presume Joel feels that casting his wife opposite the greatest black leading man, Denzel, is a clever solution for his marital problem with his wife demanding diversity without giving in and casting an inept black actor. Will Denzel make a good Macbeth? Maybe, maybe not, but it's hard to say after Denzel's career that he doesn't deserve to try.

    On other other hand, if you are Ethan Coen, maybe your sister-in-law's diversity demands have gotten on your nerves?

    Replies: @Meretricious, @S Johnson, @James of Africa, @The Anti-Gnostic, @NorthOfTheOneOhOne, @R.G. Camara, @Mr. Anon, @Harry Baldwin, @keypusher, @Not Raul

    Will Denzel make a good Macbeth? Maybe, maybe not, but it’s hard to say after Denzel’s career that he doesn’t deserve to try.

    Of course. Just like the distinguished Liam Neeson deserves a shot at portraying Shaka Zulu.

    • Replies: @Meretricious
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    not a good was to parse Denzel: his problem, like John Wayne's, is he possesses a narrow range as an actor and simply does not have the chops to do the difficult roles--and Shakespeare is difficult!

    Replies: @Sam Haysom

    , @Steve Sailer
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Shakespeare is like opera: realistic casting isn't required.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Old Prude

  67. @Steve Sailer
    @Not Raul

    Haven't seen Joel Coen's Macbeth.

    It would be interesting to know whether the Coen Brothers finally taking a hiatus from each other had to do with Joel's wife Frances McDormand's diversity waiver speech at the Oscars? I pointed out the next day that the Coen Brothers' movies are both very good and very white.

    I've long admired how the Coen Brothers have managed to avoid splitting up due to sibling rivalry and how they have therefore been an inspiration to other pairs of brothers. But now they aren't working together on Joel's "Macbeth."

    I presume Joel feels that casting his wife opposite the greatest black leading man, Denzel, is a clever solution for his marital problem with his wife demanding diversity without giving in and casting an inept black actor. Will Denzel make a good Macbeth? Maybe, maybe not, but it's hard to say after Denzel's career that he doesn't deserve to try.

    On other other hand, if you are Ethan Coen, maybe your sister-in-law's diversity demands have gotten on your nerves?

    Replies: @Meretricious, @S Johnson, @James of Africa, @The Anti-Gnostic, @NorthOfTheOneOhOne, @R.G. Camara, @Mr. Anon, @Harry Baldwin, @keypusher, @Not Raul

    Will Denzel make a good Macbeth? Maybe, maybe not, but it’s hard to say after Denzel’s career that he doesn’t deserve to try.

    Do not get your hopes up. I remember seeing Denzel in one of Kenneth Branagh’s Shakespeare movies back in the 90’s. I was not impressed; although to be fair it’s not easy to look good doing Shakespeare along side Branagh.

  68. @Half Canadian
    @Alexander Turok

    This is the biggest problem for the analogy. The comet can be seen, it’s course calculated, etc. The number of climate disasters predicted are enormous, but the few have materialized.

    Replies: @Alrenous, @Chrisnonymous

    Yeah, it would be a better analogy if there were an entire asteroid field intersecting with Earth’s orbit and some people were predicting every asteroid was going to strike Earth but already a number had failed to do so.

  69. @Mike Tre
    A couple of underrated comedies worth a look:

    PCU (a young Jeremy Piven and Jon Favreau, a cameo-ish role by David Spade) that takes to task the PC (U) atmosphere of university life (except the sport jacket sporting Republicans end up being the bad guys)

    Grandma's Boy, starting pretty much the entirety of Adam Sandler's supporting cast he uses in every one of his films, except without Adam Sandler (although he produces.) Grandma is played by the mother from Everyone Loves Raymond and she's a riot.

    And speaking of nose rings - half the middle aged softball moms I am acquainted with sport them. So I think the idea that they represent damaged goods is no longer anymore likely than just a typical female seeking an accessory that draws attention. And while jewelry can sometimes enhance a woman's appearance, nose rings do nothing to add to a female's looks in any positive way.

    Lastly, I'll never knowingly see one of this McKay guy's flicks. Another Hollywood loser with an axe to grind.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @David Davenport, @Ben tillman

    And speaking of nose rings – half the middle aged softball moms I am acquainted with sport them. So I think the idea that they represent damaged goods is no longer anymore likely than just a typical female seeking an accessory that draws attention. And while jewelry can sometimes enhance a woman’s appearance, nose rings do nothing to add to a female’s looks in any positive way.


    Just older hos, that’s all. Every ho gets older eventually. And those tats and pump-n-dumps look great on a 55 year old.

    • Agree: bomag, JMcG
  70. And there’s a dumb plot twist halfway through involving Mark Rylance (the amateur sailor in Dunkirk)

    Ummmm….

    The “amateur sailor” in Dunkirk was based on a real life individual by the name of Charles Lightoller (1874-1952).

    Lightoller served as second officer on a small passenger vessel that went by the name of the RMS Titanic which, unbeknownst to many, suffered a minor sinking in April of 1912. He managed to climb aboard a collapsible lifeboat after spending several frigid in the water, and survived to testify at the British and American inquiries into the sinking.

    He then served with distinction on several ships during World War One, even sinking a German U-Boat and receiving the Distinguished Service Cross for his efforts.

    His youngest son, Herbert, was killed early in the war while serving in the RAF, and another of his sons was among those evacuated from Dunkirk. He managed to evacuate 127 men in a small boat meant only to carry 21.

    “Amateur sailor,” indeed.

    • Thanks: ic1000
  71. @Red Pill Angel
    Steve: Leonardo DiCaprio was fat? Good grief, I didn’t even notice! I’m sick of movie stars who look like they work out 8 hours a day. They look gay. He looked fine, sort of like a normal man. anonymous: “He’s not a very good looking man” wtf.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @Chrisnonymous

    He’s not a very good looking man” wtf.

    DiCraprio has on-screen charisma. This makes him “attractive” to many people, but he’s not actually very good looking. My wife recognizes this too.

    Cate Blanchett was miscast. She is attractive but in an unusual/exotic way. Cable news reporters are inevitably attractive in very usual ways.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Chrisnonymous

    DiCaprio is particularly boyish looking in a baby-fat way, whereas Brad Pitt and Keanu Reeves were boyish-looking in a slender way. So he got cast as younger characters than he actually was a lot when he was a juvenile actor (e.g., in "Gilbert Grape," he credibly played a 13 year old when he was 16), thus helping him get to his 10,000 hours of acting younger than almost anybody. E.g., he carried "Titanic" in his early 20s. So, he has had a pretty titanic career as a leading man over the last 25 years.

    But ... he's not Pitt or Reeves when it comes to his looks, and thus needs to be in shape.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Kronos, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Danindc, @SunBakedSuburb, @Abe, @Mr Mox

  72. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Steve Sailer

    Will Denzel make a good Macbeth? Maybe, maybe not, but it’s hard to say after Denzel’s career that he doesn’t deserve to try.

    Of course. Just like the distinguished Liam Neeson deserves a shot at portraying Shaka Zulu.

    Replies: @Meretricious, @Steve Sailer

    not a good was to parse Denzel: his problem, like John Wayne’s, is he possesses a narrow range as an actor and simply does not have the chops to do the difficult roles–and Shakespeare is difficult!

    • Replies: @Sam Haysom
    @Meretricious

    This is an interesting point-because Washington’s range is different from most black actors he seems like a versatile actor. But in reality you are correct like Wayne he is a talented but limited actor.

  73. • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    @Bernard

    His VP says things like, "It is time for us to do what we have been doing. And that time is every day. "

    To answer your question, there is a rock-solid consistency of messaging in the Biden-Harris Administration.

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Bernard

    Thanks for the link. I don't have the heart to watch the whole thing, but this is shocking, chilling. scary, and sad. The people who put this tired, confused, corrupt, dotard in charge of our country should pay a heavy price, but we know they won't.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

  74. For me, the gold standard of comedy is “The Wrong Box“

    Alas, there is another whose name I cannot recall. It opens with a woman in evening clothes walking cross country through the English countryside when she comes upon a man, who turns out to be an astronaut, asleep in a queen sized bed.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @James Speaks

    To this day, when a catastrophe, or other significant event happens, my go-to response is “I suspect we haven’t heard the last of this”.

  75. @S. Anonyia
    @Red Pill Angel

    He looked anonymous and like a normal man because the typical American is quite fat...

    Replies: @Red Pill Angel

    Yeah, I see fat guys like this in Walmart all the time. His face has broadened in middle age but he’s certainly not homely.

    • Replies: @S Johnson
    @Red Pill Angel

    DiCaprio probably looks more like a fat guy shopping for vodka in the Russian equivalent of Walmart:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3456729/Fat-Russian-DiCaprio-doppelganger-taking-advantage-Leo-like-looks-Revenant-style-Instagram-posts.html

    Replies: @John Johnson

  76. @WJ
    @Reg Cæsar

    Halley's comet in 86 was a dud. Too much hype and I don't even remember actually seeing it. Hale-Bopp in 97 was actually memorable and interesting. Probably because I kept my expectations low.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired

    I don’t recall a cult full of eunuchs drinking poison and committing mass suicide when Halley’s comet passed by. Hale-Bopp had that spaceship in the tail for them to beam up to.

  77. And there’s a dumb plot twist halfway through involving Mark Rylance (the amateur sailor in Dunkirk)

    The “amateur sailor” in Dunkirk was based on a real life individual by the name of Charles Lightoller (1874-1952).

    Lightoller served as second officer on a small passenger vessel that suffered a minor sinking in April of 1912. It went by the name of the RMS Titanic which. He managed to climb aboard a collapsible lifeboat after spending several frigid minutes in the water, and survived to testify at the British and American inquiries into the sinking.

    He then served with distinction on several ships during World War One, even sinking a German U-Boat and receiving the Distinguished Service Cross for his efforts.

    His youngest son, Herbert, was killed early in the war while serving in the RAF, and another of his sons was among those evacuated from Dunkirk. He, his son, and a young Sea Scout managed to evacuate 127 men in a small boat meant only to carry 21.

    Nolan made a rather significant change to the events that happened on board “Mr. Dawson’s” ship, which is at least one reason why he had to change the character’s name. He never gives much a back story to Dawson, but there is no doubt he was based on Lightoller.

    “Amateur sailor,” indeed.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Wilkey

    Thanks.

    Rylance is superb as Lightoller in "Dunkirk."

    Replies: @Wilkey

  78. I thought it was a pretty good movie. It was written and performed in such a way that anybody can read into it whichever hidden meaning they choose.

    One might say that the phrase “Don’t Look Up” refers to the willful blindness of an absolute majority of people toward any number of things – one that comes immediately to mind is the fact that a 140lb man probably didn’t cause the death of George Floyd by placing his knee on his neck/shoulder area. At least not beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Or it might be in reference to the #stopasianhate campaign, which completely ignored mountains of video evidence showing *who* exactly were the culprits in the overwhelming majority of hate crimes against Asians.

    Perhaps it could be commentary on how three men were sent to prison for life because one of them was *clearly* attacked by a “jogger” on film, yet most refuse to acknowledge what was shown to them repeatedly on YouTube.

    I could go on and on, but you get the idea.

  79. @Mike Tre
    A couple of underrated comedies worth a look:

    PCU (a young Jeremy Piven and Jon Favreau, a cameo-ish role by David Spade) that takes to task the PC (U) atmosphere of university life (except the sport jacket sporting Republicans end up being the bad guys)

    Grandma's Boy, starting pretty much the entirety of Adam Sandler's supporting cast he uses in every one of his films, except without Adam Sandler (although he produces.) Grandma is played by the mother from Everyone Loves Raymond and she's a riot.

    And speaking of nose rings - half the middle aged softball moms I am acquainted with sport them. So I think the idea that they represent damaged goods is no longer anymore likely than just a typical female seeking an accessory that draws attention. And while jewelry can sometimes enhance a woman's appearance, nose rings do nothing to add to a female's looks in any positive way.

    Lastly, I'll never knowingly see one of this McKay guy's flicks. Another Hollywood loser with an axe to grind.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @David Davenport, @Ben tillman

    And speaking of nose rings – half the middle aged softball moms I am acquainted with sport them.

    And all the middle aged Moms with tattoos that have normal-looking children.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @David Davenport

    So you're saying Lamarck was wrong?

  80. Should I even —

    Trump analog is distracted from issues because he’s so focused on politics

    Regular Mitch McConnell old Trump is. Yeah reconfirming I don’t have time for something this completely stupid. Recently on 4chan there was a thread about music, with a screengrab of a headline from an industry rag (old catalogs of competently composed music vastly outsell green-haired Lil Molesty’s mumbly mixtape, experts puzzled), echoing a trend already established in movies. tldr industry death. Almost every reply quite predictably was along the lines of

    “modern music (and TV, and SNL, and journalism, and most definitely movies) is garbage. Make a product people actually want and it will sell fine, it’ll even do better than it deserves because people will be grateful to finally have something good, the way football was overpopular when they initially un-lockdowned football. People don’t hate fun, they hate garbage.”

    So to not be against fun I dig up a vintage entertainment product, spin the wheel, aaaaand, here’s the cartoon they made of Star Trek with minimal animation but the voices of the original actors. There are several interesting things going on here, like the fact that, because of it being a kid’s show and Shatner being asleep, the behavior of the crew is accidentally more professional/naval than normal. There is the great 70s background art. There is the clumsy insertion of pathetically scant and contextually irrelevant scientific trivia so they can pretend they’re educational. There is every episode getting solved with telepathy, because apparently everybody in Trek is a telepath (Babylon Five comparison witticism, to amuse about five people). There is the editorial decision to make everybody’s eyes the same color as their skin, even if they’re black. There is the sci-fi trope of metaphorized petite mort, which, since this is a children’s show, they probably won’t —- aaaaaaand it’s in episode three.
    Have not yet reached the episode where Kirk summons the devil. Yeah, there’s an episode where Kirk summons the devil. And it’s another example of solving everything with telepathy. And I am having more fun than is possible with Judd McKay whoever.
    Reject the modern world.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @J.Ross

    Follow-up to this Judd McKay person: his next project is propaganda lying about the January Sixth operation. What a prince.

  81. It insists upon itself.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Kratoklastes

    I love that line.

  82. Apparently, Don’t Look Up is what Americans want these days: a mediocre movie they can argue over politically without the distractions of good performances, witty lines, or clever plotting.

    I’m not sure that I can recognize a good performance — compared to my childhood, when movie actors struck poses and projected their voices as if they were in a theatre, all performances seem good. You are right about the lack of witty lines: given the subject matter, there could easily have been a few, but nothing stands out. And, OK, the plot was not clever, but the damn thing was long and it didn’t feel long; it was a comedy and it ended with everyone likable dying; everyone died but the film was not really a downer — I walked away thinking about it, but not depressed. For those reasons, I judge the film as a success. That, and the fact that even my cynical and intellectually snobbish friends watched it and talked about it.

    Meryl Streep as a cross between Sarah Palin and Donald Trump

    My wife thought Streep was doing a take on Hillary; I thought it might be Ann Coulter (the long blond hair).

  83. @anon

    Also, he’s always had a weird looking face, so he always needs to diet down to what I imagine he finds an uncomfortable leanness to not look puffy.
     
    He's not a very good looking man. He has a boyish face that worked for him as a kid and teen, but hasn't aged well.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Meretricious, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Camille Paglia said that peak pretty-boy Leo looked like a 14 year old lesbian.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Ghost of Bull Moose


    Camille Paglia said that peak pretty-boy Leo looked like a 14 year old lesbian.
     
    As a younger man he had some distinctively feminine features and clear skin with no trace of facial hair, which I think is what made him a heartthrob among teen girls who tend to find more typically masculine boys and men threatening or dangerous as an object of desire.
  84. @tyrone
    that Vice movie ,a partial shot surely ,on our new hallowed day jan. 6 the democrats lined up to shake Dick Cheney's hand .....who ever thought he would be rehabilitated.......Trump derangement syndrome, scary powerful.

    Replies: @Abe, @Kronos, @Mr. Anon

    that Vice movie ,a partial shot surely ,on our new hallowed day jan. 6 the democrats lined up to shake Dick Cheney’s hand …..who ever thought he would be rehabilitated…….

    From Reagan Democrats to Cheney Democrats.

    Let that sink in- unless they are principled, rebellious, a bit crazy, or some combination of all three, every Deep State-loving/Big Tech-pimping/Globohomo-converged donkey party politician in Washington is now a Dick Cheney Democrat.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @Abe

    For the record, neither of George W. Bush's daughters identifies as Republican. Neither do several of Ronald Reagan's children.

    Instead of judging a candidate based on "Would we like to have a beer with him?" perhaps what we really should be asking is "What are the odds that this guy's children are going to be Republicans?"

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Abe

    When Sebastian Junger was on the Joe Rogan show, he gave as an example of a political hero, one of the few we could look up to as a model of courage and integrity . . . Lynne Cheney. Really hard to take the guy seriously after that.

  85. @tyrone
    that Vice movie ,a partial shot surely ,on our new hallowed day jan. 6 the democrats lined up to shake Dick Cheney's hand .....who ever thought he would be rehabilitated.......Trump derangement syndrome, scary powerful.

    Replies: @Abe, @Kronos, @Mr. Anon

    I think Mother Jones Magazine just made Liz Cheney “Woman of the Year” or something. Had you told me that was going to happen back in 2006 I’d have laughed my ass off. The whole anti-Bush/Cheney energy happening even at the K-12 level was simply astounding.

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/12/hero-liz-cheney/

  86. Blanchett was clearly playing Mika Bryzinski, not a Fox News blonde, complete with husband stealing accuracy.

  87. The first establishing shot of the ring-nosed scientist has her rapping. Seemed like an odd way to indicate her smarts. Shortly thereafter, a group of scientists are shown partying while rap music plays in the background. I stopped watching.

    Don’t know how Steve is able to sit thru such stuff.

  88. @Barnard

    But the lady President (Meryl Streep as a cross between Sarah Palin and Donald Trump) is too busy with the midterm elections to implement the federal bureaucracy’s foolproof plans.
     
    So the rest of the world governments liberal Hollywood types always tell are so much better than the dumb rubes in the United States just go along with ignoring the meteor? This sounds even dumber than the 2004 movie The Day After Tomorrow, which climate change alarmists hated because it made them look like idiots. Please tell me that in the end humanity is saved by a group of diverse scientists who blow up the meteor with their sheer brain power. I hope the cast of Hidden Figures at least makes a cameo appearance to do all the really hard math needed to save the day.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Ben tillman, @Wilkey

    Please tell me that in the end humanity is saved by a group of diverse scientists who blow up the meteor with their sheer brain power.

    This raises a serious question: if humanity really ever does face a threat this big, will Leftists demand that the brain trust gathered to solve it be 50% female and 40% BIPOC? Because if so we are certainly screwed.

    Case in point: President Brandon, who faces 7% inflation and the looming threat of a financial crisis, has just appointed three new members to the Federal Reserve Board: a Jewish woman, a black woman, and a black man.

    The biggest financial threat hanging over our heads in a very long time and Biden is still obsessed about “muh duh-versity.” Thank God these people weren’t in charge when we were trying to win World War Two.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • Replies: @bomag
    @Wilkey


    ...Biden is still obsessed about “muh duh-versity.”
     
    Seems to be a thing. He'd be happy giving a St. Crispin's Day style speech, extolling the virtues of fighting from a weak position, just for the possible glory of validating a crappy political view.

    Also, we have the dynamic of conqueror worship: the preaching from our current rulers is that women, gays, POCs, immigrants, trannies, and other various minority groups are superior castes that are overrunning and asserting their proper place in the hierarchy, so we should step back and let them rule us according to their superior abilities.
    , @Brutusale
    @Wilkey

    Nah, a bunch of white guys and a token black will sit in a room, and the smartest guy in the room will make the appropriate recommendation. At least that's the way the movies portray it, though I can't believe that Fauci was the smartest guy in the room at any point.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk9MK5smzVE

    Ah, Fauci's the one who got the C-!

  89. @Abe
    @tyrone


    that Vice movie ,a partial shot surely ,on our new hallowed day jan. 6 the democrats lined up to shake Dick Cheney’s hand …..who ever thought he would be rehabilitated…….
     
    From Reagan Democrats to Cheney Democrats.

    Let that sink in- unless they are principled, rebellious, a bit crazy, or some combination of all three, every Deep State-loving/Big Tech-pimping/Globohomo-converged donkey party politician in Washington is now a Dick Cheney Democrat.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Harry Baldwin

    For the record, neither of George W. Bush’s daughters identifies as Republican. Neither do several of Ronald Reagan’s children.

    Instead of judging a candidate based on “Would we like to have a beer with him?” perhaps what we really should be asking is “What are the odds that this guy’s children are going to be Republicans?”

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @Wilkey

    It's really "Does this man actually run his household, or is it his wife?"

    Replies: @Tracy

  90. @Barnard
    @Steve Sailer

    Just read the spoilers from a liberal geek who liked the movie, this movie sounds terrible. I hope the CCP has the good sense to ban this movie from being streamed in China.

    Replies: @Kronos

    I still want to see the most popular Chinese film of all time. “ The Battle at Lake Changjin” is a pro-Chinese film concerning the Korean War. So far, I don’t think it’s allowed in the US yet even for streaming.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Kronos


    “ The Battle at Lake Changjin” is a pro-Chinese film concerning the Korean War.
     
    ChiCom movie about Chosin Reservoir.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95CgkrRgp4I

    The Battle of Chosin Reservoir marked a prominent moment in the Korean War. During the 17 days of fierce battle amidst freezing weather, 30,000 United Nations Command troops were surrounded by 120,000 People's Volunteer Army soldiers from China. These men were under direct orders from Mao Zedong to destroy the United Nations' forces...

    The U.S. troops found themselves in the middle of the harshest winter recorded during the war. They were out of supplies, and their guns had frozen. Desperate for artillery, they placed their hope for survival on an artillery airdrop. But to their surprise, the one such drop contained nothing but Tootsie Rolls.

    The Chinese had the U.S. X Corps trapped, or so they thought. However, the U.S. would ultimately pull off a daring breakout to accomplish the "greatest evacuation movement by sea in U.S. military history." The battle has since become even more legendary thanks to tales about how the Tootsie Rolls actually saved the U.S. soldiers...

     

    Resulted in the evacuation of Hungnam, North Korea in 1950 including 100K civilians ahead of the Chicoms.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPUVcOiYodM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL8Z51fjTMo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUQD073Qg1s

    Replies: @Kronos

    , @PaceLaw
    @Kronos

    Thanks for the tip. Here’s the link on YouTube. https://youtu.be/7QBVc0yticQ

    Replies: @Kronos

  91. @Chrisnonymous
    @Red Pill Angel


    He’s not a very good looking man” wtf.
     
    DiCraprio has on-screen charisma. This makes him "attractive" to many people, but he's not actually very good looking. My wife recognizes this too.

    Cate Blanchett was miscast. She is attractive but in an unusual/exotic way. Cable news reporters are inevitably attractive in very usual ways.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    DiCaprio is particularly boyish looking in a baby-fat way, whereas Brad Pitt and Keanu Reeves were boyish-looking in a slender way. So he got cast as younger characters than he actually was a lot when he was a juvenile actor (e.g., in “Gilbert Grape,” he credibly played a 13 year old when he was 16), thus helping him get to his 10,000 hours of acting younger than almost anybody. E.g., he carried “Titanic” in his early 20s. So, he has had a pretty titanic career as a leading man over the last 25 years.

    But … he’s not Pitt or Reeves when it comes to his looks, and thus needs to be in shape.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    DiCaprio also lucked out by Scorsese casting him so often after he peaked in boyish good looks in Titanic. He seems to put a lot of effort into his performances and he's certainly a better actor than Pitt and Reeves, but I wonder if he would've been able to have had his post-Titanic leading man career without Scorsese taking a liking to him. Lots of pretty boy actors flame out early.

    Reeves is a terrible actor who also lucked out by somehow continually getting cast in the dumbest sounding movies that end up being very entertaining.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Feryl

    , @Kronos
    @Steve Sailer


    So, he has had a pretty titanic career as a leading man over the last 25 years.
     
    Such a poor word choice.
    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Steve Sailer

    Keanu Reeves looks terrible in the latest Matrix movie (which is also terrible; I wish I could unwatch it and reclaim the time I wasted on it). Pitt has aged far better.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Danindc
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve, I don’t think we’re supposed to talk about another man’s looks. It’s just not done where I’m from.

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Steve Sailer

    "But ... he's not Pitt or Reeves when it comes to his looks, and thus needs to be in shape"

    Steve is just absolutely bagging on DiCaprio's looks in his review for Adam McKay's shitty new movie which is something George Clooney might've excreted minus the humour. And now again in this salmon-coloured comment. His detailed reportage on Leo's looks reads like something really bitchy from the cultural section of The Advocate; that is before that magazine and the rest of the cultural left became so solemn. Although I'm just speculating because I've never laid eyes on The Advocate. Why would I? I'm certainly not gay.

    , @Abe
    @Steve Sailer


    But … he’s not Pitt or Reeves when it comes to his looks, and thus needs to be in shape.
     
    Discussing the looks of male actors? What could be gayer or more boomerish. But [email protected] it, I can’t help myself either. Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, Jesse Plemons. Depending on what order you arrange them, like that famous sideways graphic “the evolution [or devolution] of man”:

    https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/70a/8bf/035e2a45436f3c1ee8bb609b2beabfd93c-9-brad-pitt.rsquare.w700.jpg

    https://files.thehandbook.com/uploads/2014/10/Matt-Damon-25.jpg

    https://hgtvhome.sndimg.com/content/dam/images/hgtv/fullset/2019/1/8/0/shutterstock_s-bukley_108248903_dallas-celebs-12.jpg.rend.hgtvcom.616.924.suffix/1546948692996.jpeg

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Loyalty Over IQ Worship, @Feryl, @Rob, @Anonymous Jew

    , @Mr Mox
    @Steve Sailer

    DiCaprio is particularly boyish looking in a baby-fat way...

    https://i.imgur.com/KZ5f1zn.jpg?1

  92. I thought Muh Smart Fraction would keep up cultural standards?

    Funny how when the country was majority White “proles” we had much better movies.

  93. @RyeFrost 2018
    “Jennifer Lawrence (with a distracting nose ring — a nose ring on a young woman portends Trouble with a Capital T, except in this movie) playing astronomers who discover a comet that is about to hit the earth and exterminate the human race.”

    Well, she does die (as does almost everyone else). Though not at all because of the nose ring!

    Replies: @PaceLaw

    So this is a feel good movie after all?

  94. Anonymous[112] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @Chrisnonymous

    DiCaprio is particularly boyish looking in a baby-fat way, whereas Brad Pitt and Keanu Reeves were boyish-looking in a slender way. So he got cast as younger characters than he actually was a lot when he was a juvenile actor (e.g., in "Gilbert Grape," he credibly played a 13 year old when he was 16), thus helping him get to his 10,000 hours of acting younger than almost anybody. E.g., he carried "Titanic" in his early 20s. So, he has had a pretty titanic career as a leading man over the last 25 years.

    But ... he's not Pitt or Reeves when it comes to his looks, and thus needs to be in shape.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Kronos, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Danindc, @SunBakedSuburb, @Abe, @Mr Mox

    DiCaprio also lucked out by Scorsese casting him so often after he peaked in boyish good looks in Titanic. He seems to put a lot of effort into his performances and he’s certainly a better actor than Pitt and Reeves, but I wonder if he would’ve been able to have had his post-Titanic leading man career without Scorsese taking a liking to him. Lots of pretty boy actors flame out early.

    Reeves is a terrible actor who also lucked out by somehow continually getting cast in the dumbest sounding movies that end up being very entertaining.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Scorsese didn't use DiCaprio well in their first movie together, Gangs of New York, which took forever to film and DiCaprio was intimidated by Daniel Day-Lewis doing Bill the Butcher on and off camera. But then Spielberg made excellent use of DiCaprio in Catch Me If You Can, so Scorsese altered course somewhat and the two went onto a very fruitful partnership.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    , @Feryl
    @Anonymous

    Reeves is a cool and likeable guy, who wouldn't want to hang out with him? He gets a lot of mileage from that, transcending whatever acting talent he has. And yes, it's fun too see how directors figure out how to plug him into a story. Personally I prefer charisma and likeability over acting "talent" in my protagonist lead actors, let the character actors and the antagonists do the heavy lifting.

  95. @Steve Sailer
    @Chrisnonymous

    DiCaprio is particularly boyish looking in a baby-fat way, whereas Brad Pitt and Keanu Reeves were boyish-looking in a slender way. So he got cast as younger characters than he actually was a lot when he was a juvenile actor (e.g., in "Gilbert Grape," he credibly played a 13 year old when he was 16), thus helping him get to his 10,000 hours of acting younger than almost anybody. E.g., he carried "Titanic" in his early 20s. So, he has had a pretty titanic career as a leading man over the last 25 years.

    But ... he's not Pitt or Reeves when it comes to his looks, and thus needs to be in shape.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Kronos, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Danindc, @SunBakedSuburb, @Abe, @Mr Mox

    So, he has had a pretty titanic career as a leading man over the last 25 years.

    Such a poor word choice.

  96. @Steve Sailer
    @Chrisnonymous

    DiCaprio is particularly boyish looking in a baby-fat way, whereas Brad Pitt and Keanu Reeves were boyish-looking in a slender way. So he got cast as younger characters than he actually was a lot when he was a juvenile actor (e.g., in "Gilbert Grape," he credibly played a 13 year old when he was 16), thus helping him get to his 10,000 hours of acting younger than almost anybody. E.g., he carried "Titanic" in his early 20s. So, he has had a pretty titanic career as a leading man over the last 25 years.

    But ... he's not Pitt or Reeves when it comes to his looks, and thus needs to be in shape.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Kronos, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Danindc, @SunBakedSuburb, @Abe, @Mr Mox

    Keanu Reeves looks terrible in the latest Matrix movie (which is also terrible; I wish I could unwatch it and reclaim the time I wasted on it). Pitt has aged far better.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Movies cannot be unwatched: far better to realize what I realized years ago and go backwards. Today I finally got around to watching the movie spoiled by cartoonist Gahan Wilson (in a review he wrote in, I believe, TMoF&SF), the basis of the MST3K central concept, and a movie which is a very useful contrast to Don't Look Up, because it is a hysterical and self-righteous ecological screed with cartoonishly oversimplistic antagonists (and a resolution so dumb it drove Wilson to spoil it) -- but the fundamentals are there, so it's still a good movie, and entertaining even after its eco-hysteria has aged so poorly. I am talking about the one where Bruce Dern eats several canteloupes. You can have a fundamentally good movie, or have good elements in an overall bad movie worth watching for those elements, separate from ideology. Modern movies suck because they suck, not just because of leftoid propaganda.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

  97. I’m waiting for the movie about getting oral sex from Stacy Abrams – “Don’t Look Down”.

  98. @tyrone
    that Vice movie ,a partial shot surely ,on our new hallowed day jan. 6 the democrats lined up to shake Dick Cheney's hand .....who ever thought he would be rehabilitated.......Trump derangement syndrome, scary powerful.

    Replies: @Abe, @Kronos, @Mr. Anon

    that Vice movie ,a partial shot surely ,on our new hallowed day jan. 6 the democrats lined up to shake Dick Cheney’s hand …..who ever thought he would be rehabilitated…….Trump derangement syndrome, scary powerful.

    The Democrats didn’t hate Cheney for what he did. They hated him because it was him doing it instead of them.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Mr. Anon

    "The Democrats didn't hate Cheney for what he did. They hated him because it was him doing it instead of them."

    Did you notice Dick and his daughter standing with the Democrats during Pelosi's 1/6 ritual? The Dems and the DC/NYC media hive consider Dick's daughter one of the good ones. The Biden Administration aka the third Obama Administration are making good use of Dick's Department of Homeland Security. Dick and Rummy created the DHS in the wake of 9/11 to hide networks that they wanted to keep secure from CIA and Pentagon meddling. Dick set the totalitarian template for his new friends, the Dems. They share the same authoritarian vision. How many of Dick's hearts did we pay for?

    , @Old Prude
    @Mr. Anon

    Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! Well said.

  99. @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    DiCaprio also lucked out by Scorsese casting him so often after he peaked in boyish good looks in Titanic. He seems to put a lot of effort into his performances and he's certainly a better actor than Pitt and Reeves, but I wonder if he would've been able to have had his post-Titanic leading man career without Scorsese taking a liking to him. Lots of pretty boy actors flame out early.

    Reeves is a terrible actor who also lucked out by somehow continually getting cast in the dumbest sounding movies that end up being very entertaining.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Feryl

    Scorsese didn’t use DiCaprio well in their first movie together, Gangs of New York, which took forever to film and DiCaprio was intimidated by Daniel Day-Lewis doing Bill the Butcher on and off camera. But then Spielberg made excellent use of DiCaprio in Catch Me If You Can, so Scorsese altered course somewhat and the two went onto a very fruitful partnership.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @Steve Sailer


    Scorsese didn’t use DiCaprio well in their first movie together, Gangs of New York
     
    Nothing says "successful movie about Irish-Americans" like the names Scorcese, Weinstein, Cameron Diaz, and DiCaprio.
  100. The left thought they owned satirical humor, but the best satire today comes from some dufus Christian White guys at the Babylon Bee.

  101. @Half Canadian
    Yeah, the plot twist was dumb, and Streep was try-hard. It was an uneven attempt.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “and Streep was try-hard. ”

    I am willing to forgive La Meryl for just about anything, just for her brilliant turn in “The Devil Wears Prada”. She can order the Holocaust/Slavery/Climate Change Lunch-Special Combo at Denny’s for all I care, that was a really wickedly good performance.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Streep as Julia Child was wonderfully entertaining too.

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    She is a good actress.

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Streep was also good in Florence Foster Jenkins with Hugh Grant. She may be a lefty loonie, but she's a fine actress.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Foster_Jenkins_(film)

  102. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT - male head of UK Cats Protection League resigns after discovering that the female head of the trustees lives in a three-bed house with 18 cats adopted from the charity. A real cat-lady.

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/jan/20/cats-protection-ceo-steps-down-after-trustee-found-to-keep-18-cats

    The UK (or Guardian) is producing some very odd stories.

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/jan/20/story-inspired-by-near-miss-with-fred-west-wins-the-portico-prize

    Sally J Morgan has won the Portico prize for her debut novel, which was inspired by her experience of being offered a lift by the serial killers Fred and Rosemary West.

    Morgan’s Toto Among the Murderers, set in Leeds and Sheffield in the 1970s, follows the lives of Jude – known to her friends as Toto – and other women as violence moves closer, and the Wests stalk the country. It beat titles including Andrew O’Hagan’s Mayflies and Jenn Ashworth’s Ghosted to the £10,000 Portico prize, which goes to outstanding writing “that best evokes the spirit of the north of England”.

     

    That is very odd, because in the 1970s, and indeed until police started investigating their crimes, no one was worried about the Wests, because no one had heard of them, and their modus operandi was to murder those who lived transient existences. It was a chap called the Yorkshire Ripper who put women in fear. The Wests only became notorious in the 1990s, after being arrested.

    https://www.city-journal.org/html/horror-story-12312.html

    Gloucester is a small cathedral city of about 100,000, where the city council has conclusively demonstrated that with the right combination of 1960s urban planning and an undiscriminating welfare policy, the degraded inner city conditions of much larger conurbations may be successfully reproduced in small country towns.
     

    Replies: @James N. Kennett, @SunBakedSuburb

    “It was a chap called the Yorkshire Ripper”

    Any truth in the rumour that Peter Sutcliffe and Jimmy Savile were mates?

    • Replies: @Gordo
    @SunBakedSuburb

    First I’ve heard that one.

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Don't think so. Two very different types, living in two very different worlds.

    Saville, known by the nurses at the hospital he worked in as a pushy type sexually ("don't let him get you in a stock cupboard" said a nurse) but not a jump-out-and-hit-you-on-the-head type. Sex partners - nurses, girls at Radio 1 roadshows, perhaps (doubtful IMHO) girls in care. Locations - all over the UK. Lived with his mum til she died, kept her room like a shrine. Huge celebrity status. I'm not even sure how many (if any) of the allegations against him are true, although I'm sure he slept with a lot of fans. Very bright, MENSA member.

    Sutcliffe - jump-out-and-hit-you-on-the-head type. Married to a woman who reportedly dominated him (IIRC she eventually married a journalist covering the story). Lorry driver, no sort of celebrity. Didn't rape - just mutilated and killed. Started by attacking prostitutes but soon any woman was a target.

    https://i0.wp.com/abtc.ng/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Sonia-Sutcliffe.jpg

  103. @Steve Sailer
    @Not Raul

    Haven't seen Joel Coen's Macbeth.

    It would be interesting to know whether the Coen Brothers finally taking a hiatus from each other had to do with Joel's wife Frances McDormand's diversity waiver speech at the Oscars? I pointed out the next day that the Coen Brothers' movies are both very good and very white.

    I've long admired how the Coen Brothers have managed to avoid splitting up due to sibling rivalry and how they have therefore been an inspiration to other pairs of brothers. But now they aren't working together on Joel's "Macbeth."

    I presume Joel feels that casting his wife opposite the greatest black leading man, Denzel, is a clever solution for his marital problem with his wife demanding diversity without giving in and casting an inept black actor. Will Denzel make a good Macbeth? Maybe, maybe not, but it's hard to say after Denzel's career that he doesn't deserve to try.

    On other other hand, if you are Ethan Coen, maybe your sister-in-law's diversity demands have gotten on your nerves?

    Replies: @Meretricious, @S Johnson, @James of Africa, @The Anti-Gnostic, @NorthOfTheOneOhOne, @R.G. Camara, @Mr. Anon, @Harry Baldwin, @keypusher, @Not Raul

    In saner times, casting a black man as the lead in MacBeth would generate many good thought-provoking pieces on casting and the limits on a suspension of disbelief, but all with the stated caveats that the black actor must actually be good in the role and it not merely be a diversity stunt.

    Nowadays, even saying that last part would be grounds for cancellation, termination, and castigation.

    That said, the choice of Denzel is interesting, beyond race. Although he has successfully played a tough guy/ heavy/bad guy before (Training Day), he has long been playing the smart hero role, and his long time pretty boy/boyish good looks and open Christianity seem to be hindrances to playing a thuggish, manipulated, power-hungry medieval warrior. It would be like a handsome, religious Tom Hanks playing Macbeth.

    Still, I wouldn’t bet against Denzel or a Cohen brother. Far too much talent and inside-movie-industry smarts not to pull it off.

    • Thanks: ic1000
  104. @Kronos
    @Barnard

    I still want to see the most popular Chinese film of all time. “ The Battle at Lake Changjin” is a pro-Chinese film concerning the Korean War. So far, I don’t think it’s allowed in the US yet even for streaming.

    https://youtu.be/1aHDj84CcsY

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @PaceLaw

    “ The Battle at Lake Changjin” is a pro-Chinese film concerning the Korean War.

    ChiCom movie about Chosin Reservoir.

    The Battle of Chosin Reservoir marked a prominent moment in the Korean War. During the 17 days of fierce battle amidst freezing weather, 30,000 United Nations Command troops were surrounded by 120,000 People’s Volunteer Army soldiers from China. These men were under direct orders from Mao Zedong to destroy the United Nations’ forces…

    The U.S. troops found themselves in the middle of the harshest winter recorded during the war. They were out of supplies, and their guns had frozen. Desperate for artillery, they placed their hope for survival on an artillery airdrop. But to their surprise, the one such drop contained nothing but Tootsie Rolls.

    The Chinese had the U.S. X Corps trapped, or so they thought. However, the U.S. would ultimately pull off a daring breakout to accomplish the “greatest evacuation movement by sea in U.S. military history.” The battle has since become even more legendary thanks to tales about how the Tootsie Rolls actually saved the U.S. soldiers…

    Resulted in the evacuation of Hungnam, North Korea in 1950 including 100K civilians ahead of the Chicoms.

    • Thanks: hhsiii, MEH 0910
    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Joe Stalin

    Thanks for providing further elaboration Mr. Stalin. I know you and Chairman Mao weren’t on the best of terms at the time. That Sino-Soviet split was a nasty political divorce.

  105. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Scorsese didn't use DiCaprio well in their first movie together, Gangs of New York, which took forever to film and DiCaprio was intimidated by Daniel Day-Lewis doing Bill the Butcher on and off camera. But then Spielberg made excellent use of DiCaprio in Catch Me If You Can, so Scorsese altered course somewhat and the two went onto a very fruitful partnership.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    Scorsese didn’t use DiCaprio well in their first movie together, Gangs of New York

    Nothing says “successful movie about Irish-Americans” like the names Scorcese, Weinstein, Cameron Diaz, and DiCaprio.

  106. @Wilkey
    @Abe

    For the record, neither of George W. Bush's daughters identifies as Republican. Neither do several of Ronald Reagan's children.

    Instead of judging a candidate based on "Would we like to have a beer with him?" perhaps what we really should be asking is "What are the odds that this guy's children are going to be Republicans?"

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    It’s really “Does this man actually run his household, or is it his wife?”

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @Tracy
    @R.G. Camara

    More like "does this man inspire his kids to emulate him -- and does he educate his kids, or does he leave it to schoolteachers and universities?" Most married females are on the conservative side.

  107. @Kronos
    @Barnard

    I still want to see the most popular Chinese film of all time. “ The Battle at Lake Changjin” is a pro-Chinese film concerning the Korean War. So far, I don’t think it’s allowed in the US yet even for streaming.

    https://youtu.be/1aHDj84CcsY

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @PaceLaw

    Thanks for the tip. Here’s the link on YouTube.

    • Thanks: Kronos
    • Replies: @Kronos
    @PaceLaw

    You just made my day. Thank you PaceLaw.

  108. @Steve Sailer
    @Not Raul

    Haven't seen Joel Coen's Macbeth.

    It would be interesting to know whether the Coen Brothers finally taking a hiatus from each other had to do with Joel's wife Frances McDormand's diversity waiver speech at the Oscars? I pointed out the next day that the Coen Brothers' movies are both very good and very white.

    I've long admired how the Coen Brothers have managed to avoid splitting up due to sibling rivalry and how they have therefore been an inspiration to other pairs of brothers. But now they aren't working together on Joel's "Macbeth."

    I presume Joel feels that casting his wife opposite the greatest black leading man, Denzel, is a clever solution for his marital problem with his wife demanding diversity without giving in and casting an inept black actor. Will Denzel make a good Macbeth? Maybe, maybe not, but it's hard to say after Denzel's career that he doesn't deserve to try.

    On other other hand, if you are Ethan Coen, maybe your sister-in-law's diversity demands have gotten on your nerves?

    Replies: @Meretricious, @S Johnson, @James of Africa, @The Anti-Gnostic, @NorthOfTheOneOhOne, @R.G. Camara, @Mr. Anon, @Harry Baldwin, @keypusher, @Not Raul

    I’ve long admired how the Coen Brothers have managed to avoid splitting up due to sibling rivalry and how they have therefore been an inspiration to other pairs of brothers.

    And they managed to stay men too, unlike those Matrix weirdos.

    I presume Joel feels that casting his wife opposite the greatest black leading man, Denzel, is a clever solution for his marital problem with his wife demanding diversity without giving in and casting an inept black actor. Will Denzel make a good Macbeth? Maybe, maybe not, but it’s hard to say after Denzel’s career that he doesn’t deserve to try.

    I don’t like the anachronistic casting of POC’s as whites in historical roles, but I don’t mind it in Shakespeare, Opera, Greek drama, and the like. That is art, not history. The words are more important than the visual impression, and anybody who can speak (or sing) the lines to draw out the meaning is welcome to the role, as far as I’m concerned.

    I’ve always thought that Washington was a pretty good actor. I could see him as MacBeth.

  109. @Unladen Swallow
    @Jack D

    I think DiCaprio is actually 6'0", you notice he is taller then both Matt Damon and Brad Pitt, both of whom he has been in movies with.

    Replies: @guest007, @Change that Matters, @PiltdownMan, @Bardon Kaldian

    DiCaprio is 1.83 m (6’0″)

    Pitt is 1.8 m (slightly under 5’11”)

    Matt Damon is 1.78 m (slightly over 5’10”)

    • Replies: @TWS
    @Change that Matters

    No actor or athlete's listed height is remotely accurate.

  110. McKay is a typical liberal Hollywood D-bag – the kind who despises every single American who lives between I-15 and I-95. And he is actually rather stupid and provincial, despite thinking himself smart and sophisticated. Why would I want to see any movie he makes?

  111. @Mr. Anon
    @tyrone


    that Vice movie ,a partial shot surely ,on our new hallowed day jan. 6 the democrats lined up to shake Dick Cheney’s hand …..who ever thought he would be rehabilitated…….Trump derangement syndrome, scary powerful.
     
    The Democrats didn't hate Cheney for what he did. They hated him because it was him doing it instead of them.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Old Prude

    “The Democrats didn’t hate Cheney for what he did. They hated him because it was him doing it instead of them.”

    Did you notice Dick and his daughter standing with the Democrats during Pelosi’s 1/6 ritual? The Dems and the DC/NYC media hive consider Dick’s daughter one of the good ones. The Biden Administration aka the third Obama Administration are making good use of Dick’s Department of Homeland Security. Dick and Rummy created the DHS in the wake of 9/11 to hide networks that they wanted to keep secure from CIA and Pentagon meddling. Dick set the totalitarian template for his new friends, the Dems. They share the same authoritarian vision. How many of Dick’s hearts did we pay for?

  112. @Steve Sailer
    @Chrisnonymous

    DiCaprio is particularly boyish looking in a baby-fat way, whereas Brad Pitt and Keanu Reeves were boyish-looking in a slender way. So he got cast as younger characters than he actually was a lot when he was a juvenile actor (e.g., in "Gilbert Grape," he credibly played a 13 year old when he was 16), thus helping him get to his 10,000 hours of acting younger than almost anybody. E.g., he carried "Titanic" in his early 20s. So, he has had a pretty titanic career as a leading man over the last 25 years.

    But ... he's not Pitt or Reeves when it comes to his looks, and thus needs to be in shape.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Kronos, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Danindc, @SunBakedSuburb, @Abe, @Mr Mox

    Steve, I don’t think we’re supposed to talk about another man’s looks. It’s just not done where I’m from.

  113. @Steve Sailer
    @Chrisnonymous

    DiCaprio is particularly boyish looking in a baby-fat way, whereas Brad Pitt and Keanu Reeves were boyish-looking in a slender way. So he got cast as younger characters than he actually was a lot when he was a juvenile actor (e.g., in "Gilbert Grape," he credibly played a 13 year old when he was 16), thus helping him get to his 10,000 hours of acting younger than almost anybody. E.g., he carried "Titanic" in his early 20s. So, he has had a pretty titanic career as a leading man over the last 25 years.

    But ... he's not Pitt or Reeves when it comes to his looks, and thus needs to be in shape.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Kronos, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Danindc, @SunBakedSuburb, @Abe, @Mr Mox

    “But … he’s not Pitt or Reeves when it comes to his looks, and thus needs to be in shape”

    Steve is just absolutely bagging on DiCaprio’s looks in his review for Adam McKay’s shitty new movie which is something George Clooney might’ve excreted minus the humour. And now again in this salmon-coloured comment. His detailed reportage on Leo’s looks reads like something really bitchy from the cultural section of The Advocate; that is before that magazine and the rest of the cultural left became so solemn. Although I’m just speculating because I’ve never laid eyes on The Advocate. Why would I? I’m certainly not gay.

    • LOL: Red Pill Angel
  114. @Bardon Kaldian
    https://i.imgur.com/0PYUsY3.jpg

    Replies: @Meretricious, @Alrenous

    De Tocqueville wrote about how this was already de facto the case.

    “I know of no country in which there is so little independence of mind and real freedom of discussion as in America.”

    “Americans are so enamored of equality, they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.”

  115. @Jack D
    This was an all-star cast with very capable actors that was dragged down by its script and directing. With a cast this talented, it could have been so much better.

    I had the feeling that this movie was made at the moment of peak "Trump is a Science Denialist who is going to get us all killed" Covid/climate hysteria, so that by the time that it reached the screen in the Age of Biden, its moment had passed. Parody should be played somewhat broadly but this was a little TOO broad to the point where you couldn't grant the necessary suspension of disbelief in the service of comedy. No one is as stupid and self centered as the Streep character and her son, not even Kamala.

    Oddly, the science fictiony scenes (I won't offer any more spoilers) were the most successful because you were clearly in a fantasy world where the absurd is not unexpected.

    Similarly, I liked Rylance as the weird tech billionaire Steve Jobs/ Musk type character - he was strange enough to be real.

    I just couldn't accept that someone (even a Trump stand in seen thru Hollywood liberal eyes) could sit in the Oval Office and act like a Three Stooges character. The Stooges would have given a more nuanced performance.

    Replies: @EdwardM

    This is exactly what I expected the film to be based on the summary. Conservatives (and corporate executives) are cretins if not demons, liberals and the media are angels, and the government will come to the rescue. They can’t avoid the heavy-handedness, which is probably helped along further by their belief that the core non-ideological movie-going audience is too stupid to be subjected to any nuance of ambiguity.

    It would almost be better if it were an outwardly over-the-top slapstick like the Three Stooges. Instead, these caricatures reflect precisely the way the cultural left views the right. These ham-fisted, not-funny portrayals go back in my memory to The West Wing and I am sure much farther.

    • Replies: @Rooster12
    @EdwardM

    I whole heartedly agree. What gets me is there are many right-leaning folks, like many on this site, who will watch this movie and give genuine critique of it. Whereas, imagine the roles reversed and the liberals made to look like absolute fools in a movie… do you think any on the left would watch it let alone honestly critique it?! Heck, they’d be trying to cancel it off Netflix, calling it racist, the director would be banned from Hollywood. It truly goes to show the difference in mentality between the two sides.

    Replies: @Anonymous Jew

    , @Jack D
    @EdwardM


    the media are angels
     
    Not quite. The heroic astronomers, after being rebuffed at the White House, decide to go public and are booked on a morning talk show similar to the Kelly Ripa/Michael Strahan show but their declaration that the world is about to end gets 2nd priority . Two pop stars who have broken up with each other reconcile live on the air on this show - THAT, not the end of the world, is the REALLY BIG STORY.

    Maybe there is still potential for a movie where crusading print journalists save the Republic ala Woodward and Bernstein but that is not this movie. TV journalists are generally portrayed in the movies as buffoons.

    Nor does the government come to the rescue either - in this movie the government is in effect Trump.

    The movie in your head is not the movie that was made. I don't think anyone comes off well in this movie - there are no real heroes. Even the astronomers are flawed.

    Replies: @Dr. DoomNGloom, @nebulafox

  116. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Steve Sailer

    Keanu Reeves looks terrible in the latest Matrix movie (which is also terrible; I wish I could unwatch it and reclaim the time I wasted on it). Pitt has aged far better.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Movies cannot be unwatched: far better to realize what I realized years ago and go backwards. Today I finally got around to watching the movie spoiled by cartoonist Gahan Wilson (in a review he wrote in, I believe, TMoF&SF), the basis of the MST3K central concept, and a movie which is a very useful contrast to Don’t Look Up, because it is a hysterical and self-righteous ecological screed with cartoonishly oversimplistic antagonists (and a resolution so dumb it drove Wilson to spoil it) — but the fundamentals are there, so it’s still a good movie, and entertaining even after its eco-hysteria has aged so poorly. I am talking about the one where Bruce Dern eats several canteloupes. You can have a fundamentally good movie, or have good elements in an overall bad movie worth watching for those elements, separate from ideology. Modern movies suck because they suck, not just because of leftoid propaganda.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @J.Ross

    Silent Running - Trailer
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p69lEMn0I8k


    As this science fiction classic opens, botanist Freeman Lowell (Bruce Dern) has spent eight years aboard the space freighter 'Valley Forge' preserving the only botanical specimens left from Earth under huge geodesic domes. When he receives orders to destroy the project and return home, Lowell rebels and hijacks the freighter, while plunging the craft into the gaseous Rings of Saturn. From that moment on, he has only the trees, the gardens and two 'Drone' robots, Huey and Dewey, to keep him company on his greatest adventure of all.
     
    Silent Running (1972) | Movie Scenes | Movieclips playlist:
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZbXA4lyCtqqUvy8jfr4rwmbImp3OHRUZ

    Replies: @J.Ross, @MEH 0910

  117. @Steve Sailer
    @Not Raul

    Haven't seen Joel Coen's Macbeth.

    It would be interesting to know whether the Coen Brothers finally taking a hiatus from each other had to do with Joel's wife Frances McDormand's diversity waiver speech at the Oscars? I pointed out the next day that the Coen Brothers' movies are both very good and very white.

    I've long admired how the Coen Brothers have managed to avoid splitting up due to sibling rivalry and how they have therefore been an inspiration to other pairs of brothers. But now they aren't working together on Joel's "Macbeth."

    I presume Joel feels that casting his wife opposite the greatest black leading man, Denzel, is a clever solution for his marital problem with his wife demanding diversity without giving in and casting an inept black actor. Will Denzel make a good Macbeth? Maybe, maybe not, but it's hard to say after Denzel's career that he doesn't deserve to try.

    On other other hand, if you are Ethan Coen, maybe your sister-in-law's diversity demands have gotten on your nerves?

    Replies: @Meretricious, @S Johnson, @James of Africa, @The Anti-Gnostic, @NorthOfTheOneOhOne, @R.G. Camara, @Mr. Anon, @Harry Baldwin, @keypusher, @Not Raul

    Notice Frances McDormand didn’t diversify herself out of a role in Macbeth. McDormand is a good actress but I think her career would have petered out awhile ago were she not married to Joel Coen. I wouldn’t say that about Helena Bonham Carter, who made six movies with Tim Burton while they were married but has done fine since then without him.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Harry Baldwin

    McDormand is a good actress but I think her career would have petered out awhile ago were she not married to Joel Coen.

    Not sure about that, she was pretty good in non-Coen movie "Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri"

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    , @R.G. Camara
    @Harry Baldwin

    Dormand's quite not good looking, she definitely would not have had any leading lady roles without her husband; she would have spent her career as a supporting actress.

    In Burn After Reading, one very distracting point was the fact that handsome George Clooney's character begins an affair with the ugly Dormand.

    In the film, Clooney also has an affair with the androgynous Tilda Swinton, Swinton's character at least dresses up fancily and her domineering attitude seem to be an attraction to the weaker-willed Clooney character. Dormand, however, is an ugly doormat, and provides no reason for Clooney to go dumpster diving with her.

  118. @Kratoklastes
    It insists upon itself.

    https://youtu.be/0pnwE_Oy5WI?t=23

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    I love that line.

  119. @Steve Sailer
    @Chrisnonymous

    DiCaprio is particularly boyish looking in a baby-fat way, whereas Brad Pitt and Keanu Reeves were boyish-looking in a slender way. So he got cast as younger characters than he actually was a lot when he was a juvenile actor (e.g., in "Gilbert Grape," he credibly played a 13 year old when he was 16), thus helping him get to his 10,000 hours of acting younger than almost anybody. E.g., he carried "Titanic" in his early 20s. So, he has had a pretty titanic career as a leading man over the last 25 years.

    But ... he's not Pitt or Reeves when it comes to his looks, and thus needs to be in shape.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Kronos, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Danindc, @SunBakedSuburb, @Abe, @Mr Mox

    But … he’s not Pitt or Reeves when it comes to his looks, and thus needs to be in shape.

    Discussing the looks of male actors? What could be gayer or more boomerish. But [email protected] it, I can’t help myself either. Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, Jesse Plemons. Depending on what order you arrange them, like that famous sideways graphic “the evolution [or devolution] of man”:

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Abe

    Discussing the looks of male actors? What could be gayer or more boomerish.

    Great question. You guys are gay boomers.

    If I wasn't married I wouldn't watch half of these stupid movies and you guys talk about the actors?

    I actually almost knocked out a boomer today.

    Definitely wasn't Steve or Bannon so it would have been fine.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

    , @Loyalty Over IQ Worship
    @Abe

    Modern "leading men" have looked queerish for decades. Compare them to a young John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, Gary Cooper or Charlton Heston.

    I've always assumed it was Hollywood giving in to their actual desires.

    , @Feryl
    @Abe

    Star male actors have been getting more and more effete over the last 30 years. The last dude pictured (no idea who he is, I generally don't consume scripted media made after the year 2000) looks more scrunchy faced Teutonic/Scandinavian than anything else. Neanderthal+part Northern Slavic/Asian DNA. Not for nothing did the Ancient Romans regard themselves as more attractive and evolved than the pale Northern barbarians.

    , @Rob
    @Abe

    Americans have become so fat (me included) that practically anyone lean and groomed looks like a movie star.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    , @Anonymous Jew
    @Abe

    Has anyone else noticed the exponential increase of fat and ugly people on TV, including commercials? Whereas before there was always room for a handful of character actors - including women - now it seems that there’s a full-on post modern assault on inherent human standards of beauty. Math is racist, beauty is subjective, and if you won’t date a tranny it’s because you’re transphobic and should be fired, but really we’d rather send you to the gulags.

  120. @Abe
    @tyrone


    that Vice movie ,a partial shot surely ,on our new hallowed day jan. 6 the democrats lined up to shake Dick Cheney’s hand …..who ever thought he would be rehabilitated…….
     
    From Reagan Democrats to Cheney Democrats.

    Let that sink in- unless they are principled, rebellious, a bit crazy, or some combination of all three, every Deep State-loving/Big Tech-pimping/Globohomo-converged donkey party politician in Washington is now a Dick Cheney Democrat.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Harry Baldwin

    When Sebastian Junger was on the Joe Rogan show, he gave as an example of a political hero, one of the few we could look up to as a model of courage and integrity . . . Lynne Cheney. Really hard to take the guy seriously after that.

    • Agree: Abe
  121. @David Davenport
    @Mike Tre

    And speaking of nose rings – half the middle aged softball moms I am acquainted with sport them.

    And all the middle aged Moms with tattoos that have normal-looking children.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    So you’re saying Lamarck was wrong?

  122. Cheney could meet with oil company CEOs in secret—controversies that weren’t very exciting even when they were happening. Vice winds up being neither tragic nor comic: It’s like Anchorman without laughs.

    I’m going to disagree with you on Vice.

    I thought it was funny but probably didn’t reach the intended conclusion.

    To me it was just sad that the GOP ran the “guy to drink a beer with” while the real strategist had to live behind the curtain. Kind of a modern day Wizard of Oz.

    It was unneeded but additional evidence that neither party is interested in hiring the best of the best.

    Biden was actually considered by leftists to be a mediocre corporate sell out before they dubbed him the moderate to beat Trump.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @John Johnson

    Yes, he was the Senator from MBNA forever. I managed to watch most of his press conference the other day. He’s really in bad shape.

  123. @Abe
    @Steve Sailer


    But … he’s not Pitt or Reeves when it comes to his looks, and thus needs to be in shape.
     
    Discussing the looks of male actors? What could be gayer or more boomerish. But [email protected] it, I can’t help myself either. Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, Jesse Plemons. Depending on what order you arrange them, like that famous sideways graphic “the evolution [or devolution] of man”:

    https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/70a/8bf/035e2a45436f3c1ee8bb609b2beabfd93c-9-brad-pitt.rsquare.w700.jpg

    https://files.thehandbook.com/uploads/2014/10/Matt-Damon-25.jpg

    https://hgtvhome.sndimg.com/content/dam/images/hgtv/fullset/2019/1/8/0/shutterstock_s-bukley_108248903_dallas-celebs-12.jpg.rend.hgtvcom.616.924.suffix/1546948692996.jpeg

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Loyalty Over IQ Worship, @Feryl, @Rob, @Anonymous Jew

    Discussing the looks of male actors? What could be gayer or more boomerish.

    Great question. You guys are gay boomers.

    If I wasn’t married I wouldn’t watch half of these stupid movies and you guys talk about the actors?

    I actually almost knocked out a boomer today.

    Definitely wasn’t Steve or Bannon so it would have been fine.

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @John Johnson

    DiCaprio has gotten more p*ssy than all the Men of Unz combined. Hence all the nitpicking and hate. It's not so much jealousy (although there's some of that) but that the existence of DiCaprio knocks into a cocked hat all their "evolutionary psychology" and "game" copes about "what women want."

    "What women want is not DiCaprio"
    Yet, DiCaprio.

    Right wing thought on many issues, in a nutshell. Christianity, Traditionalism, libertarianism, evolutionary psychology, game, whatever, there's always an brainy ideology to believe in, whatever stinky old reality seems to say.

    "More theology and geometry!" -- Ignatius Reilly

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Feryl, @Anon

  124. @Meretricious
    @S Johnson

    Joel/Ethan were codirecting from the beginning (ignore the credits)

    Replies: @S Johnson

    I know, my point was just that JC took the credit as (seemingly) the one who’s better at talking to Hollywood types. Maybe that’s not very significant but coupled with Ethan stepping back from movies first it seems worth noting.

  125. @Red Pill Angel
    @S. Anonyia

    Yeah, I see fat guys like this in Walmart all the time. His face has broadened in middle age but he’s certainly not homely.
    https://www.sickchirpse.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Dont-Look-Up-1000x569.png

    Replies: @S Johnson

    DiCaprio probably looks more like a fat guy shopping for vodka in the Russian equivalent of Walmart:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3456729/Fat-Russian-DiCaprio-doppelganger-taking-advantage-Leo-like-looks-Revenant-style-Instagram-posts.html

    • LOL: Red Pill Angel
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @S Johnson

    Which Wal-mart are you guys going to?

    I live in middle America and half the men look pregnant.

    These are my fellow country Whites but they need to lay off the chips and bud light.

    I could probably walk up to their wives and hand them my number. I doubt half the husbands would care and would probably ask if I could watch the kids while they go to the race track.

  126. @S Johnson
    @Red Pill Angel

    DiCaprio probably looks more like a fat guy shopping for vodka in the Russian equivalent of Walmart:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3456729/Fat-Russian-DiCaprio-doppelganger-taking-advantage-Leo-like-looks-Revenant-style-Instagram-posts.html

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Which Wal-mart are you guys going to?

    I live in middle America and half the men look pregnant.

    These are my fellow country Whites but they need to lay off the chips and bud light.

    I could probably walk up to their wives and hand them my number. I doubt half the husbands would care and would probably ask if I could watch the kids while they go to the race track.

  127. @Abe
    @Steve Sailer


    But … he’s not Pitt or Reeves when it comes to his looks, and thus needs to be in shape.
     
    Discussing the looks of male actors? What could be gayer or more boomerish. But [email protected] it, I can’t help myself either. Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, Jesse Plemons. Depending on what order you arrange them, like that famous sideways graphic “the evolution [or devolution] of man”:

    https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/70a/8bf/035e2a45436f3c1ee8bb609b2beabfd93c-9-brad-pitt.rsquare.w700.jpg

    https://files.thehandbook.com/uploads/2014/10/Matt-Damon-25.jpg

    https://hgtvhome.sndimg.com/content/dam/images/hgtv/fullset/2019/1/8/0/shutterstock_s-bukley_108248903_dallas-celebs-12.jpg.rend.hgtvcom.616.924.suffix/1546948692996.jpeg

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Loyalty Over IQ Worship, @Feryl, @Rob, @Anonymous Jew

    Modern “leading men” have looked queerish for decades. Compare them to a young John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, Gary Cooper or Charlton Heston.

    I’ve always assumed it was Hollywood giving in to their actual desires.

  128. I’m glad I’m not the only one who Notices Leo’s face/head. Leo is a typical example of a neotonous boy idol who eventually matures but his body and/or face don’t cooperate and you end up with a rather strange looking person. The target audience for these boy idols are young girls intimidated by high-T phenotypes, so I guess we are always going to be stuck with baby-faced male celebrities who mature awkwardly.

    BTW, bearded or goateed Leo is even more distracting looking. Baby faced guys sometimes think that facial hair makes you look more “manly”, but nope, facial hair cannot disguise the basic phenotype you have. Even heavy beards don’t cover up the brow ridge, and if memory serves, larger heads and necks are associated with higher T levels since male hormones cause thicker bones and musculature (I seem to recall that gaydar studies showed that gays tend to be thinner and shorter, and that “gay-face” is partly caused by neotony e.g. the head and face are soft and small).

    • Replies: @Red Pill Angel
    @Feryl

    Ok, DeCaprio’s kind of pie-faced, but he doesn’t look effeminate or especially low-T to me. His face has beefed out in the way that men’s faces do in their forties or however old he is. He has typically European features and was very pretty as a teen as many European men are. Too bad DeCaprio doesn’t have any daughters, because they would probably be pretty. Trump’s sons are rather birdlike, because their mothers had delicate features. European women are pretty but they pass this on to their sons. Do you guys want to look like Neanderthals? Jeez.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @Feryl

  129. @Harry Baldwin
    @Steve Sailer

    Notice Frances McDormand didn't diversify herself out of a role in Macbeth. McDormand is a good actress but I think her career would have petered out awhile ago were she not married to Joel Coen. I wouldn't say that about Helena Bonham Carter, who made six movies with Tim Burton while they were married but has done fine since then without him.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @R.G. Camara

    McDormand is a good actress but I think her career would have petered out awhile ago were she not married to Joel Coen.

    Not sure about that, she was pretty good in non-Coen movie “Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @kaganovitch

    McDormand was also really good in Nomadland, an unconventional movie that would have failed utterly if she had not carried it throughout. It might be the saddest Best Picture winner ever, but it was still worth watching.

    Replies: @EdwardM

  130. @Abe
    @Steve Sailer


    But … he’s not Pitt or Reeves when it comes to his looks, and thus needs to be in shape.
     
    Discussing the looks of male actors? What could be gayer or more boomerish. But [email protected] it, I can’t help myself either. Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, Jesse Plemons. Depending on what order you arrange them, like that famous sideways graphic “the evolution [or devolution] of man”:

    https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/70a/8bf/035e2a45436f3c1ee8bb609b2beabfd93c-9-brad-pitt.rsquare.w700.jpg

    https://files.thehandbook.com/uploads/2014/10/Matt-Damon-25.jpg

    https://hgtvhome.sndimg.com/content/dam/images/hgtv/fullset/2019/1/8/0/shutterstock_s-bukley_108248903_dallas-celebs-12.jpg.rend.hgtvcom.616.924.suffix/1546948692996.jpeg

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Loyalty Over IQ Worship, @Feryl, @Rob, @Anonymous Jew

    Star male actors have been getting more and more effete over the last 30 years. The last dude pictured (no idea who he is, I generally don’t consume scripted media made after the year 2000) looks more scrunchy faced Teutonic/Scandinavian than anything else. Neanderthal+part Northern Slavic/Asian DNA. Not for nothing did the Ancient Romans regard themselves as more attractive and evolved than the pale Northern barbarians.

    • LOL: PaceLaw
  131. …we had much better movies

    Fortunately, these are still available. Here is a good one that is free, on Youtube. 39 minutes. English-made. It is called “Diversion” and served as a precursor for “Fatal Attraction.” A big difference is that in “fatal attraction” Michael Douglas and Glenn Close are each half responsible for what happens. But in this movie the male protagonist goes out of his way to get himself into trouble. And more important, he’s not Michael Douglas, he’s just a regular guy, and so easier to identify with, and so more unsettling.

  132. @Harry Baldwin
    @Steve Sailer

    Notice Frances McDormand didn't diversify herself out of a role in Macbeth. McDormand is a good actress but I think her career would have petered out awhile ago were she not married to Joel Coen. I wouldn't say that about Helena Bonham Carter, who made six movies with Tim Burton while they were married but has done fine since then without him.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @R.G. Camara

    Dormand’s quite not good looking, she definitely would not have had any leading lady roles without her husband; she would have spent her career as a supporting actress.

    In Burn After Reading, one very distracting point was the fact that handsome George Clooney’s character begins an affair with the ugly Dormand.

    In the film, Clooney also has an affair with the androgynous Tilda Swinton, Swinton’s character at least dresses up fancily and her domineering attitude seem to be an attraction to the weaker-willed Clooney character. Dormand, however, is an ugly doormat, and provides no reason for Clooney to go dumpster diving with her.

  133. @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    DiCaprio also lucked out by Scorsese casting him so often after he peaked in boyish good looks in Titanic. He seems to put a lot of effort into his performances and he's certainly a better actor than Pitt and Reeves, but I wonder if he would've been able to have had his post-Titanic leading man career without Scorsese taking a liking to him. Lots of pretty boy actors flame out early.

    Reeves is a terrible actor who also lucked out by somehow continually getting cast in the dumbest sounding movies that end up being very entertaining.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Feryl

    Reeves is a cool and likeable guy, who wouldn’t want to hang out with him? He gets a lot of mileage from that, transcending whatever acting talent he has. And yes, it’s fun too see how directors figure out how to plug him into a story. Personally I prefer charisma and likeability over acting “talent” in my protagonist lead actors, let the character actors and the antagonists do the heavy lifting.

    • Agree: Red Pill Angel
  134. @Muggles
    Another reason to avoid going to the movies.

    Replies: @guest007, @duncsbaby

    Reason #432 not to have Netflix.

    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
    @duncsbaby

    Honestly, the only reason to have Netflix these days is if you are a fan of K-Drama. Korean TV shows are so much smarter and better made than American ones these days.

  135. You guys are vastly underestimating the incredible acting chops of Leonardo DiCaprio. Can anyone on this board imagine either Keanu Reeves or Brad Pitt playing Jordan Belfort? No way! Actors like DiCaprio and Christian Bale are artists of the first rank, and they should be respected

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Meretricious

    DiCaprio has been a big star for 25 years because he's really good at what he does.

    Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy

    , @anon
    @Meretricious


    You guys are vastly underestimating the incredible acting chops of Leonardo DiCaprio. Can anyone on this board imagine either Keanu Reeves or Brad Pitt playing Jordan Belfort? No way! Actors like DiCaprio and Christian Bale are artists of the first rank, and they should be respected
     
    Reeves is a bad actor, and Pitt is mediocre. I don't know that DiCaprio is a great actor though. He has 1 move - squinting his eyes and scrunching his face real hard while shouting. That's like 95% of his serious acting.
    , @Kylie
    @Meretricious

    "You guys are vastly underestimating the incredible acting chops of Leonardo DiCaprio...Actors like DiCaprio and Christian Bale are artists of the first rank, and they should be respected."

    Totally agree. DiCaprio and Bale are the two best actors working in films today and two of the best ever. I think Bale is a slightly better actor than DiCaprio. But the latter has incredible onscreen charisma. I don't think he's handsome and I deplore his politics but when he's onscreen, I am transfixed by him.

  136. The sequel could be titled ‘Don’t Look Up…Crime Statistics and IQ By Race’

    • LOL: Rob
  137. @Meretricious
    You guys are vastly underestimating the incredible acting chops of Leonardo DiCaprio. Can anyone on this board imagine either Keanu Reeves or Brad Pitt playing Jordan Belfort? No way! Actors like DiCaprio and Christian Bale are artists of the first rank, and they should be respected

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @anon, @Kylie

    DiCaprio has been a big star for 25 years because he’s really good at what he does.

    • Agree: Meretricious
    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Steve Sailer

    It was ridiculous that Sean Penn won the Oscar for “Mystic River” instead of DiCaprio for “The Aviator”, which for my money was the best performance of his career. Ironically, the one movie for which he did win the Oscar, “The Revenant”, was one of his weaker performances. I guess it was the Hollywood equivalent of a referee’s make up call.

  138. You lost me at “Will Farrell” That guy’s movies are about as funny as a baby’s open-casket funeral.

    • Agree: Brutusale
    • LOL: Old Prude
  139. @Wilkey

    And there’s a dumb plot twist halfway through involving Mark Rylance (the amateur sailor in Dunkirk)
     
    The “amateur sailor” in Dunkirk was based on a real life individual by the name of Charles Lightoller (1874-1952).

    Lightoller served as second officer on a small passenger vessel that suffered a minor sinking in April of 1912. It went by the name of the RMS Titanic which. He managed to climb aboard a collapsible lifeboat after spending several frigid minutes in the water, and survived to testify at the British and American inquiries into the sinking.

    He then served with distinction on several ships during World War One, even sinking a German U-Boat and receiving the Distinguished Service Cross for his efforts.

    His youngest son, Herbert, was killed early in the war while serving in the RAF, and another of his sons was among those evacuated from Dunkirk. He, his son, and a young Sea Scout managed to evacuate 127 men in a small boat meant only to carry 21.

    Nolan made a rather significant change to the events that happened on board "Mr. Dawson's" ship, which is at least one reason why he had to change the character's name. He never gives much a back story to Dawson, but there is no doubt he was based on Lightoller.

    “Amateur sailor,” indeed.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Thanks.

    Rylance is superb as Lightoller in “Dunkirk.”

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @Steve Sailer

    Rylance was artistic director of the Globe Theatre, a reconstruction of Shakespeare's original theatre, for ten years. He's been memorable in every role I've seen him in (none of them on stage, unfortunately).

    The way the Dawson/Lightoller character is written and performed is brilliant on so many levels. A lesser writer/director than Nolan would have laid all of Lightoller's/Dawson's cards on the table: "Hey! I was on the Titanic and sank a U-Boat during The Great War!" A lesser actor wouldn't have been able to pull off the character as it was actually written.

    Nolan had to change the name at least because of some significant changes he made to Lightoller's trip across the Channel. But the name change also worked because while "Dawson" is mostly Lightoller, he also serves as a stand-in for so many other Britons who made the journey across the Channel to rescue their men.

    And the way Rylance plays the character leaves you wondering if there's something deeper there that Nolan never let's you on to. I knew "Dawson" probably wasn't a real name, but it was something I almost immediately Googled the second we left the theatre.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

  140. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Steve Sailer

    Will Denzel make a good Macbeth? Maybe, maybe not, but it’s hard to say after Denzel’s career that he doesn’t deserve to try.

    Of course. Just like the distinguished Liam Neeson deserves a shot at portraying Shaka Zulu.

    Replies: @Meretricious, @Steve Sailer

    Shakespeare is like opera: realistic casting isn’t required.

    • Disagree: Old Prude
    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Steve Sailer

    Did old Bill tell you that in a seance? I'd be willing to bet the farm he wouldn't be happy about it.

    , @Old Prude
    @Steve Sailer

    Realistic casting isn't required, but it helps. There is a reason people joke about the fat lady singing.

    Let's be honest: Denzel Washington is cast as Macbeth, not because he's great for the role, but because he's black, and this is 2022, where everything is staged to be humiliating and denigrating to white culture. Denzel as Macbeth is giving the finger to whitey.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)

  141. @S Johnson
    @Steve Sailer

    Ethan seems likely to have the more uncompromising patrician politics of the pair—studied philosophy at Princeton (writing his thesis on Wittgenstein) while Joel went to film school, does highbrow side projects like publishing his poems and short stories, married an editor while Joel married a leading actress. The title poem of his poetry collection, “The Drunken Driver has the Right of Way” is about how loud stupidity tends to win out over reason:


    The most attentive and unfailing
    Carefulness is unavailing
    Wheresoever fools are flailing;
    Wisdom there is held at bay
     
    Joel would seem to have more patience in dealing with the film industry, being the more public-facing and taking their early directing credits. So it would make sense if Ethan got fed up first with increasing diversity demands.

    Replies: @Meretricious, @Steve Sailer

    Makes sense.

    Still, even though the Coen Brothers have been mildly famous since “Blood Simple” 38 years ago, their distinctive personalities remain vague to even fans like myself. I suspect they planned their indistinct public image as a way to head off sibling rivalry, but I’ve never heard anyone else speculate about their internal dynamics until now.

    • Replies: @Meretricious
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve, the speculation is because JOEL REALLY BLEW IT ON MACBETH. It's logical to think he's just the visual member of the team

  142. anon[386] • Disclaimer says:
    @Meretricious
    You guys are vastly underestimating the incredible acting chops of Leonardo DiCaprio. Can anyone on this board imagine either Keanu Reeves or Brad Pitt playing Jordan Belfort? No way! Actors like DiCaprio and Christian Bale are artists of the first rank, and they should be respected

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @anon, @Kylie

    You guys are vastly underestimating the incredible acting chops of Leonardo DiCaprio. Can anyone on this board imagine either Keanu Reeves or Brad Pitt playing Jordan Belfort? No way! Actors like DiCaprio and Christian Bale are artists of the first rank, and they should be respected

    Reeves is a bad actor, and Pitt is mediocre. I don’t know that DiCaprio is a great actor though. He has 1 move – squinting his eyes and scrunching his face real hard while shouting. That’s like 95% of his serious acting.

  143. @Anon

    Apparently, Don’t Look Up is what Americans want these days: a mediocre movie they can argue over politically without the distractions of good performances, witty lines, or clever plotting.
     
    What a perfect observation. Can you write a full post expanding on this? Not sure anyone else has put it so plainly.

    Replies: @Abe

    Apparently, Don’t Look Up is what Americans want these days: a mediocre movie they can argue over politically without the distractions of good performances, witty lines, or clever plotting.

    What a perfect observation. Can you write a full post expanding on this? Not sure anyone else has put it so plainly.

    Tim Dillon had a similar Rabelaisian, slow-burn, going-the-scenic-route-to-blotto-so-I-may-as-well-do-it-with-lite-beer take on this earlier (7:43):

  144. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Half Canadian

    "and Streep was try-hard. "

    I am willing to forgive La Meryl for just about anything, just for her brilliant turn in "The Devil Wears Prada". She can order the Holocaust/Slavery/Climate Change Lunch-Special Combo at Denny's for all I care, that was a really wickedly good performance.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @Jim Don Bob

    Streep as Julia Child was wonderfully entertaining too.

  145. You guys are like little girls gushing over dumb movies.

    Listen. Newsflash. Movies are all dumb. Actors are hacks.

    You wouldn’t know, because you’ve never experienced excellence, ever, in all your sad and tawdry lives.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @obwandiyag

    You sound like a frustrated actor.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Bill
    @obwandiyag

    obwandiyah: experiencer of excellence

    , @Erik L
    @obwandiyag

    What does it mean, to "experience excellence"? Can you provide some examples for those of us on the outside?

  146. Steve, my friend’s post on JC’s Macbeth (good stuff):
    “The Tragedy of Macbeth” seriously disappointed me last night. Originally, I was going to write a lengthy review, but I have neither the time nor inclination now. These are some highlights, however:
    Positive things first. The art direction, editing, cinematography and music are all exceptional. The visual look summons the great Ufa films of the twenties and the spare, eerie score works perfectly with that look. Kathryn Hunter as all three witches is genuinely disturbing (although condensing the three into one is a terrible mistake) and Harry Melling, Corey Hawkins, Brendan Gleeson and particularly Alex Hassel and Bertie Carvel (as Ross and Banquo) are all solid in their roles. Frances McDormand would be if Lady Macbeth were not so desexualized and her lines were not eviscerated.
    But…(here we go)…
    Denzel Washington is so miscast as Macbeth that in his very first appearance I’m shaking my head. He rushed his lines — something you just do not do with Elizabethan language — and remained a complete cypher throughout the film. But, most important of all, there needs to be an erotic tension between him and McDormand. It’s one of the main motivating factors for his deeds. There was none. Zero.
    When your lead actor is blowing it, you’ve got a problem no matter how good everyone else is.
    But there are other problems. The character of Ross, a Scottish nobleman of secondary importance in the play, is emphasized so greatly that 1. It is even implied that he kills Lady Macbeth; and 2. he rescues Fleance, in a ridiculous coda that Coen attaches after Malcolm’s victory. Almost a “Hollywood ending.”
    As Ross is emphasized, Lady Macbeth is deemphasized…which is insane. In the play, she is a demonic force (something Kurosawa captured in “Throne of Blood,” his adaptation of “Macbeth”); in the film, she even becomes sympathetic.
    I’d have to go over the text to find out what’s been excised, but I do know that there is plenty of Lady Macbeth dialogue missing.
    And the scene with Banquo’s ghost was also mishandled. The figure needs to be at the table, not flying outside the door as a raven.
    Look, there are two fundamental engines to this thing — the witches and Lady Macbeth. Reducing the witches to one (in effect) goes against the mythic tradition of three Norns, three Fates. And reducing the “mania” of Lady Macbeth diminishes the motivation for…everything!
    I know this play really well. I’ve seen about three or four stage productions, including one with my mother as Lady Macbeth, and the films of Welles, Polanski and Kurosawa. I was hoping for real brilliance here and found some but not in the most important places — Macbeth himself and the adaptation of the script.
    I’m sorry, gang. I really wanted to like it, but…nope.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Meretricious

    "including one with my mother as Lady Macbeth"

    Now that's interesting.

    Replies: @Meretricious

  147. ” A pudgy boring Leonardo de Caprio “.

    Good Heavens, Steve!

    A little strong, methinks, but on second thoughts, is there any other variety of De Caprio on the market?

  148. @Steve Sailer
    @S Johnson

    Makes sense.

    Still, even though the Coen Brothers have been mildly famous since "Blood Simple" 38 years ago, their distinctive personalities remain vague to even fans like myself. I suspect they planned their indistinct public image as a way to head off sibling rivalry, but I've never heard anyone else speculate about their internal dynamics until now.

    Replies: @Meretricious

    Steve, the speculation is because JOEL REALLY BLEW IT ON MACBETH. It’s logical to think he’s just the visual member of the team

  149. @kaganovitch
    @Harry Baldwin

    McDormand is a good actress but I think her career would have petered out awhile ago were she not married to Joel Coen.

    Not sure about that, she was pretty good in non-Coen movie "Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri"

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    McDormand was also really good in Nomadland, an unconventional movie that would have failed utterly if she had not carried it throughout. It might be the saddest Best Picture winner ever, but it was still worth watching.

    • Replies: @EdwardM
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    I will have to disagree on that. I think it's fair to say her performance was strong and carried what little there was of the story, but the movie sucked in my opinion. It was a typical Hollywood National Geographic-style safari into the hinterlands of America, observing things that must seem so profound or sublime to them, but are really just mundane and not really exotic. I was waiting for something to happen but it never did. (I always like David Strathairn too.)

    And of course if the filmmaker was named John Smith instead of Chloe Zhao, it wouldn't have gotten much traction.

  150. @Abe
    @Steve Sailer


    But … he’s not Pitt or Reeves when it comes to his looks, and thus needs to be in shape.
     
    Discussing the looks of male actors? What could be gayer or more boomerish. But [email protected] it, I can’t help myself either. Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, Jesse Plemons. Depending on what order you arrange them, like that famous sideways graphic “the evolution [or devolution] of man”:

    https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/70a/8bf/035e2a45436f3c1ee8bb609b2beabfd93c-9-brad-pitt.rsquare.w700.jpg

    https://files.thehandbook.com/uploads/2014/10/Matt-Damon-25.jpg

    https://hgtvhome.sndimg.com/content/dam/images/hgtv/fullset/2019/1/8/0/shutterstock_s-bukley_108248903_dallas-celebs-12.jpg.rend.hgtvcom.616.924.suffix/1546948692996.jpeg

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Loyalty Over IQ Worship, @Feryl, @Rob, @Anonymous Jew

    Americans have become so fat (me included) that practically anyone lean and groomed looks like a movie star.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Rob

    This deserves a lot more study than it gets. It's not entirely a matter of "eat less and exercise more." My grandparents' generation ate three solid meals a day and the only exercise anybody got was mowing the lawn or vacuuming the floors and obesity was so uncommon it was in the realm of the comedic.

    This is one of my favorite photos of Old America. Why were our waists higher as well? That seems a pretty remarkable change in physiology over three generations.

    https://i.imgur.com/PEvt3w8.jpg

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Erik L, @S. Anonyia, @Alec Leamas (working from home), @nebulafox

  151. I know, my point was just that JC took the credit as (seemingly) the one who’s better at talking to Hollywood types. Maybe that’s not very significant but coupled with Ethan stepping back from movies first it seems worth noting.

    Joel went to NYU’s film school, Ethan studied Wittgenstein at Princeton. They joke that their academic parents thought Ethan was being the practical one.

  152. OT

    RIP “Meatloaf”.

    • Thanks: MEH 0910
    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Anonymous

    https://www.tmz.com/2022/01/21/meat-loaf-dead-dies-singer/
    https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/1484486268033638400

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/music-news/meat-loaf-bat-out-of-hell-singer-and-rocky-horror-picture-show-fight-club-actor-dies-at-74-1235078542/
    https://twitter.com/THR/status/1484529830020501511

  153. @J.Ross
    Should I even --

    Trump analog is distracted from issues because he's so focused on politics

    Regular Mitch McConnell old Trump is. Yeah reconfirming I don't have time for something this completely stupid. Recently on 4chan there was a thread about music, with a screengrab of a headline from an industry rag (old catalogs of competently composed music vastly outsell green-haired Lil Molesty's mumbly mixtape, experts puzzled), echoing a trend already established in movies. tldr industry death. Almost every reply quite predictably was along the lines of

    "modern music (and TV, and SNL, and journalism, and most definitely movies) is garbage. Make a product people actually want and it will sell fine, it'll even do better than it deserves because people will be grateful to finally have something good, the way football was overpopular when they initially un-lockdowned football. People don't hate fun, they hate garbage."
     
    So to not be against fun I dig up a vintage entertainment product, spin the wheel, aaaaand, here's the cartoon they made of Star Trek with minimal animation but the voices of the original actors. There are several interesting things going on here, like the fact that, because of it being a kid's show and Shatner being asleep, the behavior of the crew is accidentally more professional/naval than normal. There is the great 70s background art. There is the clumsy insertion of pathetically scant and contextually irrelevant scientific trivia so they can pretend they're educational. There is every episode getting solved with telepathy, because apparently everybody in Trek is a telepath (Babylon Five comparison witticism, to amuse about five people). There is the editorial decision to make everybody's eyes the same color as their skin, even if they're black. There is the sci-fi trope of metaphorized petite mort, which, since this is a children's show, they probably won't ---- aaaaaaand it's in episode three.
    Have not yet reached the episode where Kirk summons the devil. Yeah, there's an episode where Kirk summons the devil. And it's another example of solving everything with telepathy. And I am having more fun than is possible with Judd McKay whoever.
    Reject the modern world.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Follow-up to this Judd McKay person: his next project is propaganda lying about the January Sixth operation. What a prince.

  154. @Bill in Glendale
    Interestingly, NASA is currently flying a "planetary defense" mission called DART to impact a very small asteroid (actually a moonlet of a not much bigger asteroid). This is to measure how much the orbital period of the moonlet is changed by the impact and whether this would be an effective approach for nudging a threatening asteroid away from an earth impact. This would most likely need to be many months to years in advance of a predicted impact. NASA actually has a planetary defense office and Congress has funded it to find and characterize near-earth objects that are "potentially threatening." The impact is next September 26. The mission was launched by one of autistic billionaire Elon Musk's SpaceX rockets.

    Replies: @Gordo

    Interestingly, NASA is currently flying a “planetary defense” mission called DART to impact a very small asteroid

    What could possibly go wrong?

    • Replies: @Pat009
    @Gordo

    What could go wrong: NASA's DART mission nudges the asteroid, but in the wrong direction and it hits Earth.

  155. >Steve Carrell as Rumsfeld

    I have never come across Steve Carrell without demanding to know why he has a career. He has never been any good at anything. He lacks basic competence. He’s not handsome and he doesn’t have any particular atmosphere or fitness for a sort of character acting. The first time I saw him was a Jon Liebowitz era Daily Show feature where he, as a reporter on a news show, is somehow in a grocery store, doing grocery news jokes, and the grocery news jokes made Rob Corddry (per Jon, the laziest and dumbest Daily Show writer) look like Marie Kurwa Curie by contrast. And he seems to me to be the least appropriate person they could find to play Rumsfeld. There are probably black women who could nail Rumsfeld, especially that way he had of talking at press conferences, which was not so far off the way some old black women speak.
    Steve Carrell, a mystery known but to Hollywood casting agents.

    • Agree: Old Prude
  156. @SunBakedSuburb
    @YetAnotherAnon

    "It was a chap called the Yorkshire Ripper"

    Any truth in the rumour that Peter Sutcliffe and Jimmy Savile were mates?

    Replies: @Gordo, @YetAnotherAnon

    First I’ve heard that one.

  157. @Meretricious
    Steve, my friend's post on JC's Macbeth (good stuff):
    “The Tragedy of Macbeth” seriously disappointed me last night. Originally, I was going to write a lengthy review, but I have neither the time nor inclination now. These are some highlights, however:
    Positive things first. The art direction, editing, cinematography and music are all exceptional. The visual look summons the great Ufa films of the twenties and the spare, eerie score works perfectly with that look. Kathryn Hunter as all three witches is genuinely disturbing (although condensing the three into one is a terrible mistake) and Harry Melling, Corey Hawkins, Brendan Gleeson and particularly Alex Hassel and Bertie Carvel (as Ross and Banquo) are all solid in their roles. Frances McDormand would be if Lady Macbeth were not so desexualized and her lines were not eviscerated.
    But…(here we go)…
    Denzel Washington is so miscast as Macbeth that in his very first appearance I’m shaking my head. He rushed his lines — something you just do not do with Elizabethan language — and remained a complete cypher throughout the film. But, most important of all, there needs to be an erotic tension between him and McDormand. It’s one of the main motivating factors for his deeds. There was none. Zero.
    When your lead actor is blowing it, you’ve got a problem no matter how good everyone else is.
    But there are other problems. The character of Ross, a Scottish nobleman of secondary importance in the play, is emphasized so greatly that 1. It is even implied that he kills Lady Macbeth; and 2. he rescues Fleance, in a ridiculous coda that Coen attaches after Malcolm’s victory. Almost a “Hollywood ending.”
    As Ross is emphasized, Lady Macbeth is deemphasized…which is insane. In the play, she is a demonic force (something Kurosawa captured in “Throne of Blood,” his adaptation of “Macbeth”); in the film, she even becomes sympathetic.
    I’d have to go over the text to find out what’s been excised, but I do know that there is plenty of Lady Macbeth dialogue missing.
    And the scene with Banquo’s ghost was also mishandled. The figure needs to be at the table, not flying outside the door as a raven.
    Look, there are two fundamental engines to this thing — the witches and Lady Macbeth. Reducing the witches to one (in effect) goes against the mythic tradition of three Norns, three Fates. And reducing the “mania” of Lady Macbeth diminishes the motivation for…everything!
    I know this play really well. I’ve seen about three or four stage productions, including one with my mother as Lady Macbeth, and the films of Welles, Polanski and Kurosawa. I was hoping for real brilliance here and found some but not in the most important places — Macbeth himself and the adaptation of the script.
    I’m sorry, gang. I really wanted to like it, but…nope.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    “including one with my mother as Lady Macbeth”

    Now that’s interesting.

    • Replies: @Meretricious
    @Steve Sailer

    he used to write for an LA paper (former rock musician)--also has a grandfather who's a legendary LA architect (interesting family)

  158. @Steve Sailer
    @Meretricious

    "including one with my mother as Lady Macbeth"

    Now that's interesting.

    Replies: @Meretricious

    he used to write for an LA paper (former rock musician)–also has a grandfather who’s a legendary LA architect (interesting family)

  159. Not to be confused, of course, with Nicholas Roeg’s 1973 masterpiece, and sheer glory of cinematography, “Don’t Look Now”.

  160. @Steve Sailer
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Shakespeare is like opera: realistic casting isn't required.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Old Prude

    Did old Bill tell you that in a seance? I’d be willing to bet the farm he wouldn’t be happy about it.

  161. @Unladen Swallow
    @Jack D

    I think DiCaprio is actually 6'0", you notice he is taller then both Matt Damon and Brad Pitt, both of whom he has been in movies with.

    Replies: @guest007, @Change that Matters, @PiltdownMan, @Bardon Kaldian

    I hope they make a movie someday soon with Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, and Mark Wahlberg as co- leads. It would be a pleasantly confusing experience.

    The Departed, from 2006, had two of them and DiCaprio, and was fun, for that (and other) reasons.

  162. @James of Africa
    @Steve Sailer

    Sometimes it does work. My favorite whiteface role was that of James Earl Jones as Thulsa Doom in Conan the Barbarian. I can't imagine anyone else playing that role. The Coen brothers might pull it off, even if divided, it could be interesting.

    Replies: @Skyler the Weird

    Jones was a great King Lear back in the Seventies too.

    • Thanks: James of Africa
  163. @EdwardM
    @Jack D

    This is exactly what I expected the film to be based on the summary. Conservatives (and corporate executives) are cretins if not demons, liberals and the media are angels, and the government will come to the rescue. They can't avoid the heavy-handedness, which is probably helped along further by their belief that the core non-ideological movie-going audience is too stupid to be subjected to any nuance of ambiguity.

    It would almost be better if it were an outwardly over-the-top slapstick like the Three Stooges. Instead, these caricatures reflect precisely the way the cultural left views the right. These ham-fisted, not-funny portrayals go back in my memory to The West Wing and I am sure much farther.

    Replies: @Rooster12, @Jack D

    I whole heartedly agree. What gets me is there are many right-leaning folks, like many on this site, who will watch this movie and give genuine critique of it. Whereas, imagine the roles reversed and the liberals made to look like absolute fools in a movie… do you think any on the left would watch it let alone honestly critique it?! Heck, they’d be trying to cancel it off Netflix, calling it racist, the director would be banned from Hollywood. It truly goes to show the difference in mentality between the two sides.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Jew
    @Rooster12

    Better yet, imagine if we taught the opposite of CRT in schools: HBD.

    That’s the gist of it. You can protest from the left, teach from the left etc, but if you do anything comparable from the right our quasi-totalitarian overloads will ruin your life. The left is in charge, make no mistake.

  164. @Alrenous
    @Half Canadian

    It's a Poe's law movie. You have to realize it's almost all projection.

    If there was a real problem the DNC would absolutely tell you it's not a real problem. They might even say that mentioning the problem is racist. When there's real, feasible solutions, they will actively campaign against them. E.g. nuclear and geoengineering.

    IRL the more activated they got about the comet, the more sure you could be it was going to miss. If they went all quiet and tried to distract you, then you should maybe worry. (On the other hand, worrying doesn't deflect comets, so maybe they would be onto something.)

    There are many reasons for this. One is the political: if you can take credit for a problem that's going to "solve" itself, while never letting a "crisis" go to waste, that's a huge win. By contrast, seriously addressing a real problem and failing to affect it would be very embarrassing - better to pretend it's not a problem.

    I'm trying to think of a time where leftist hysteria was not almost perfectly inversely proportional to the threat, but I'm not coming up with anything.

    Replies: @guest007, @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    What the Covid-19 pandemic has shown is that neither Republicans or Democrats have the attention span to deal with any long term, chronic problem. Trump’s attention span ran out in weeks. Most of the Republican governors could not keep up any concern for more than six months. Every time there is a down turn in cases the Democrats lose their attention and want to get back to increasing spending or social justice issues. Look at how the George Floyd deaths caused the Democrats to abandon Covid-19 for months. Look at how the Biden Administration lost interest in testing and masks when the Delta wave was subsiding.

    Any political operative should learn the lesson that nothing should be done that is going to take more than 90 days to resolve. Thus, America has to avoid all wars and focus only on small military actions that can be resolved in weeks. A successful politician will learn to avoid issues such as education, homelessness while focusing on short term wins.

  165. @Alrenous
    @Half Canadian

    It's a Poe's law movie. You have to realize it's almost all projection.

    If there was a real problem the DNC would absolutely tell you it's not a real problem. They might even say that mentioning the problem is racist. When there's real, feasible solutions, they will actively campaign against them. E.g. nuclear and geoengineering.

    IRL the more activated they got about the comet, the more sure you could be it was going to miss. If they went all quiet and tried to distract you, then you should maybe worry. (On the other hand, worrying doesn't deflect comets, so maybe they would be onto something.)

    There are many reasons for this. One is the political: if you can take credit for a problem that's going to "solve" itself, while never letting a "crisis" go to waste, that's a huge win. By contrast, seriously addressing a real problem and failing to affect it would be very embarrassing - better to pretend it's not a problem.

    I'm trying to think of a time where leftist hysteria was not almost perfectly inversely proportional to the threat, but I'm not coming up with anything.

    Replies: @guest007, @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    If there was a real problem the DNC would absolutely tell you it’s not a real problem. They might even say that mentioning the problem is racist. When there’s real, feasible solutions, they will actively campaign against them. E.g. nuclear and geoengineering.

    This was my point – in the film, all of the bright people who love science would be running around frustrating any engineering solutions which could divert or address the negative outcomes of the comet, including banning rockets and the nuclear devices which would be necessary to knock a comet off of its path (analogous to sea walls and locks and nuclear power with climate change).

    Also, the in-world Leonardo DiCaprios and Jennifer Lawrences would be buying prime, beachfront comet real estate all the while.

    They’d also be insisting that we can’t address the oncoming comet until we end the filibuster, passed the John Lewis Voting Rights Bill, add Justices to the Supreme Court, etc.

  166. @Brian Reilly
    OOF! Oh well, Some things never change. The most rare talent in Hollywood is screenwriting. Bad script guarantees a stinker, and most scripts (the version they film and release, anyhow...) are so bad they wouldn't burn if soaked in diesel.

    It's nothing new, either. The overwhelming majority movies (films, for you auters...) have always been stinkers. Truly not worth the time to watch except as a source of horrible fascination.

    Replies: @Meretricious, @Fluesterwitz

    Sturgeon’s Law: 90% of everything is trash.
    Of course, your 10% and mine need not overlap, completely or at all.

    • Replies: @Alrenous
    @Fluesterwitz

    This is because in fact 100% of everything is trash.

    You just like 10% of it anyway.

    Which is, let's be real, better than the alternative.

  167. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @anon

    Camille Paglia said that peak pretty-boy Leo looked like a 14 year old lesbian.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    Camille Paglia said that peak pretty-boy Leo looked like a 14 year old lesbian.

    As a younger man he had some distinctively feminine features and clear skin with no trace of facial hair, which I think is what made him a heartthrob among teen girls who tend to find more typically masculine boys and men threatening or dangerous as an object of desire.

  168. Steve, with near-infinite choices for mediocre, woketard fare, your even mentioning this is a high honor for its creators.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  169. @obwandiyag
    You guys are like little girls gushing over dumb movies.

    Listen. Newsflash. Movies are all dumb. Actors are hacks.

    You wouldn't know, because you've never experienced excellence, ever, in all your sad and tawdry lives.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Bill, @Erik L

    You sound like a frustrated actor.

    • LOL: S. Anonyia
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Now, now. Don't ask him to perform. He's not going to perform so don't ask him.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

  170. Will Ferrill’s writer? That explains a lot.

    I tried to watch it, but gave up when I couldn’t tell if it was trying to be funny or not.

  171. @duncsbaby
    @Muggles

    Reason #432 not to have Netflix.

    Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy

    Honestly, the only reason to have Netflix these days is if you are a fan of K-Drama. Korean TV shows are so much smarter and better made than American ones these days.

  172. @John Milton's Ghost
    Great to have a shout-out to _This is the End_, a stoner movie that, if it had any conscious commentary embedded within it, was an attack on fundamentalists who believe in the Rapture, but in fact basically skewered every idiot who makes a living in Hollywood. Sometimes movies wind up great by accident.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Hapalong Cassidy, @Sam Haysom

    I’ve been meaning to watch “This is the End” but I don’t think I can bring myself to watch anything with Seth Rogen in it now that he’s outed himself as a Jewish Supremacist.

  173. @Steve Sailer
    @Meretricious

    DiCaprio has been a big star for 25 years because he's really good at what he does.

    Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy

    It was ridiculous that Sean Penn won the Oscar for “Mystic River” instead of DiCaprio for “The Aviator”, which for my money was the best performance of his career. Ironically, the one movie for which he did win the Oscar, “The Revenant”, was one of his weaker performances. I guess it was the Hollywood equivalent of a referee’s make up call.

  174. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @kaganovitch

    McDormand was also really good in Nomadland, an unconventional movie that would have failed utterly if she had not carried it throughout. It might be the saddest Best Picture winner ever, but it was still worth watching.

    Replies: @EdwardM

    I will have to disagree on that. I think it’s fair to say her performance was strong and carried what little there was of the story, but the movie sucked in my opinion. It was a typical Hollywood National Geographic-style safari into the hinterlands of America, observing things that must seem so profound or sublime to them, but are really just mundane and not really exotic. I was waiting for something to happen but it never did. (I always like David Strathairn too.)

    And of course if the filmmaker was named John Smith instead of Chloe Zhao, it wouldn’t have gotten much traction.

  175. @S. Anonyia
    @Half Canadian

    I actually thought it was amusing and better than expected (I had low expectations) until the plot twist. Way downhill from there.

    Replies: @Bill

    Elon Musk was the only thing I liked about the movie.

  176. @obwandiyag
    You guys are like little girls gushing over dumb movies.

    Listen. Newsflash. Movies are all dumb. Actors are hacks.

    You wouldn't know, because you've never experienced excellence, ever, in all your sad and tawdry lives.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Bill, @Erik L

    obwandiyah: experiencer of excellence

  177. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @obwandiyag

    You sound like a frustrated actor.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Now, now. Don’t ask him to perform. He’s not going to perform so don’t ask him.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @J.Ross

    https://youtu.be/RD78dtBhwtw

  178. @Bernard
    https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1483934914139590657?s=20

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @Harry Baldwin

    His VP says things like, “It is time for us to do what we have been doing. And that time is every day. ”

    To answer your question, there is a rock-solid consistency of messaging in the Biden-Harris Administration.

  179. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Half Canadian

    "and Streep was try-hard. "

    I am willing to forgive La Meryl for just about anything, just for her brilliant turn in "The Devil Wears Prada". She can order the Holocaust/Slavery/Climate Change Lunch-Special Combo at Denny's for all I care, that was a really wickedly good performance.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @Jim Don Bob

    She is a good actress.

  180. @Unladen Swallow
    @Jack D

    I think DiCaprio is actually 6'0", you notice he is taller then both Matt Damon and Brad Pitt, both of whom he has been in movies with.

    Replies: @guest007, @Change that Matters, @PiltdownMan, @Bardon Kaldian

    Say what you want, but both Pitt & Di Caprio can act.

    They’re much better than oldies like Wayne or Cooper. Not to mention Errol Flynn, who was a very interesting character, but a dreadful actor.

  181. @guest007
    @Unladen Swallow

    Actors are usually shorter than average but actresses are usually larger than average because it makes the blocking of the shots easier. Tall actors and short actresses make the cinematography harder.

    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ScullyBox

    Replies: @TWS

    I’m rather tall my wife is more than a foot shorter than I am. My friend is so short I either have to sit down or she has to stand on a chair to be in a picture together.

    I see The Rock with some woman in a movie and either he’s in a ditch or she’s on a raised walkway because their eyes are nearly the same level.

  182. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Half Canadian

    "and Streep was try-hard. "

    I am willing to forgive La Meryl for just about anything, just for her brilliant turn in "The Devil Wears Prada". She can order the Holocaust/Slavery/Climate Change Lunch-Special Combo at Denny's for all I care, that was a really wickedly good performance.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @Jim Don Bob

    Streep was also good in Florence Foster Jenkins with Hugh Grant. She may be a lefty loonie, but she’s a fine actress.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Foster_Jenkins_(film)

  183. @Paperback Writer

    as a Rust Belt Christian skate punk, I liked Timothée Chalamet more

     

    Anthony Huber or Gaige Grosskreutz?

    I bet y'all have forgotten those names already.

    Replies: @TWS

    I’ve met tens of thousands of dirtbags like them. Why in the world would I remember them one day after they were shot unless I was working the case? Other than getting killed by a rifle they really don’t stand out that much.

  184. But the lady President (Meryl Streep as a cross between Sarah Palin and Donald Trump) is too busy with the midterm elections to implement the federal bureaucracy’s foolproof plans.

    Well that’s one big point in her favor. At least the stupid election’s less likely to be actively destructive.

  185. @Wilkey
    @Barnard


    Please tell me that in the end humanity is saved by a group of diverse scientists who blow up the meteor with their sheer brain power.
     
    This raises a serious question: if humanity really ever does face a threat this big, will Leftists demand that the brain trust gathered to solve it be 50% female and 40% BIPOC? Because if so we are certainly screwed.

    Case in point: President Brandon, who faces 7% inflation and the looming threat of a financial crisis, has just appointed three new members to the Federal Reserve Board: a Jewish woman, a black woman, and a black man.

    The biggest financial threat hanging over our heads in a very long time and Biden is still obsessed about "muh duh-versity." Thank God these people weren't in charge when we were trying to win World War Two.

    Replies: @bomag, @Brutusale

    …Biden is still obsessed about “muh duh-versity.”

    Seems to be a thing. He’d be happy giving a St. Crispin’s Day style speech, extolling the virtues of fighting from a weak position, just for the possible glory of validating a crappy political view.

    Also, we have the dynamic of conqueror worship: the preaching from our current rulers is that women, gays, POCs, immigrants, trannies, and other various minority groups are superior castes that are overrunning and asserting their proper place in the hierarchy, so we should step back and let them rule us according to their superior abilities.

  186. @Change that Matters
    @Unladen Swallow

    DiCaprio is 1.83 m (6'0")

    Pitt is 1.8 m (slightly under 5'11")

    Matt Damon is 1.78 m (slightly over 5'10")

    Replies: @TWS

    No actor or athlete’s listed height is remotely accurate.

  187. @Feryl
    I'm glad I'm not the only one who Notices Leo's face/head. Leo is a typical example of a neotonous boy idol who eventually matures but his body and/or face don't cooperate and you end up with a rather strange looking person. The target audience for these boy idols are young girls intimidated by high-T phenotypes, so I guess we are always going to be stuck with baby-faced male celebrities who mature awkwardly.

    BTW, bearded or goateed Leo is even more distracting looking. Baby faced guys sometimes think that facial hair makes you look more "manly", but nope, facial hair cannot disguise the basic phenotype you have. Even heavy beards don't cover up the brow ridge, and if memory serves, larger heads and necks are associated with higher T levels since male hormones cause thicker bones and musculature (I seem to recall that gaydar studies showed that gays tend to be thinner and shorter, and that "gay-face" is partly caused by neotony e.g. the head and face are soft and small).

    Replies: @Red Pill Angel

    Ok, DeCaprio’s kind of pie-faced, but he doesn’t look effeminate or especially low-T to me. His face has beefed out in the way that men’s faces do in their forties or however old he is. He has typically European features and was very pretty as a teen as many European men are. Too bad DeCaprio doesn’t have any daughters, because they would probably be pretty. Trump’s sons are rather birdlike, because their mothers had delicate features. European women are pretty but they pass this on to their sons. Do you guys want to look like Neanderthals? Jeez.

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @Red Pill Angel

    "Do you guys want to look like Neanderthals? Jeez."

    I'm guessing the modal Man of Unz does in fact resemble a Neanderthal, hence the attraction to theories about what "evolution makes women want" and hence the puzzlement over DiCaprio.

    , @Feryl
    @Red Pill Angel

    Leo definitely gained weight and with age his face has begun to wrinkle and sag. But I'm sorry, if it takes you decades to "fill out" then you're not exactly the manliest guy. I figure that male actors really started to become more effeminate because actors are increasingly drawn from upper class (often British/Jewish) backgrounds that have been weeding out beefy manual laborer phenotypes for eons at this point. I've also noticed at my job that the under-45 set, when from an "educated" disposition, often looks positively malnourished. Seems like in decadent late stage America those of the upper class bent are avoiding manual labor throughout their lives and consequently look soft or have obvious "gym bodies".With older generations of Americans body types weren't so linked to social class, since back in the good old days there wasn't such a huge divergence between the classes.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @John Johnson

  188. @PaceLaw
    @Kronos

    Thanks for the tip. Here’s the link on YouTube. https://youtu.be/7QBVc0yticQ

    Replies: @Kronos

    You just made my day. Thank you PaceLaw.

  189. @EdwardM
    @Jack D

    This is exactly what I expected the film to be based on the summary. Conservatives (and corporate executives) are cretins if not demons, liberals and the media are angels, and the government will come to the rescue. They can't avoid the heavy-handedness, which is probably helped along further by their belief that the core non-ideological movie-going audience is too stupid to be subjected to any nuance of ambiguity.

    It would almost be better if it were an outwardly over-the-top slapstick like the Three Stooges. Instead, these caricatures reflect precisely the way the cultural left views the right. These ham-fisted, not-funny portrayals go back in my memory to The West Wing and I am sure much farther.

    Replies: @Rooster12, @Jack D

    the media are angels

    Not quite. The heroic astronomers, after being rebuffed at the White House, decide to go public and are booked on a morning talk show similar to the Kelly Ripa/Michael Strahan show but their declaration that the world is about to end gets 2nd priority . Two pop stars who have broken up with each other reconcile live on the air on this show – THAT, not the end of the world, is the REALLY BIG STORY.

    Maybe there is still potential for a movie where crusading print journalists save the Republic ala Woodward and Bernstein but that is not this movie. TV journalists are generally portrayed in the movies as buffoons.

    Nor does the government come to the rescue either – in this movie the government is in effect Trump.

    The movie in your head is not the movie that was made. I don’t think anyone comes off well in this movie – there are no real heroes. Even the astronomers are flawed.

    • Replies: @Dr. DoomNGloom
    @Jack D

    This movie should have been done like Simon Pegg's "the Worlds End", which was pretty good.
    In contrast it more closely resembles the contemporaneous and similar sounding "This is the End" , which was unwatchable. Like a bad sitcom without the laughtrack.

    Network set the standard for this type dry and broad dark humor.

    , @nebulafox
    @Jack D

    >save the Republic ala Woodward and Bernstein

    Hardly. Woodward and Bernstein were being used by one of Hoover's COINTELPRO henchmen who was pissy about Nixon choosing one of his own unqualified cronies to succeed Hoover rather than an FBI man, namely, him. (It's not like he didn't have a point: one could make the case that nobody has properly run the FBI since Hoover himself.) Most of the stuff he gave Woodstein which would be used as a Hail Mary attack by the Post in October 1972 turned out to be completely false, according to FBI internal memos.

    What brought Nixon down was a confluence of factors in early 1973 that had little to do with the Fourth Estate: Judge Sirica, a desperate and irritated Senate, a cooperating *post-Hoover* FBI, L. Patrick Gray's testimony, etc. Even after the scandal exploded in late April, had the taping system not existed, Nixon would have likely served out his term as a wounded but intact POTUS.

    Replies: @Jack D

  190. @Rob
    @Abe

    Americans have become so fat (me included) that practically anyone lean and groomed looks like a movie star.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    This deserves a lot more study than it gets. It’s not entirely a matter of “eat less and exercise more.” My grandparents’ generation ate three solid meals a day and the only exercise anybody got was mowing the lawn or vacuuming the floors and obesity was so uncommon it was in the realm of the comedic.

    This is one of my favorite photos of Old America. Why were our waists higher as well? That seems a pretty remarkable change in physiology over three generations.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Why were our waists higher as well?

    If you're slim, your belt will be secured above your hip bones. Your navel will be at the narrowest part of your torso. For most of us, this is not the case. Our belt finds its place below our bellies.

    , @Erik L
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    I doubt peoples' waists were higher. That was just a different style of pant. Fashions change over time.

    , @S. Anonyia
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Looks like those men are just wearing their pants higher. Women briefly wore low-rise pants in the late 90s/2000s but higher-rise has been back for awhile now. I'm not sure why men still wear their pants so low; it actually accentuates most people’s extra weight.

    I’m not sure that three solid meals a day was typical other than for children. My grandparents who were born in the 1920s actually ate very little. Often just a coffee for breakfast except on weekends, a light lunch like a cup of soup, and no snacking between meals whatsoever. They also walked a lot and had home exercise equipment (though it was weird stuff like shake weights and ancient versions of Nordic Tracks).

    , @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    This deserves a lot more study than it gets. It’s not entirely a matter of “eat less and exercise more.” My grandparents’ generation ate three solid meals a day and the only exercise anybody got was mowing the lawn or vacuuming the floors and obesity was so uncommon it was in the realm of the comedic.
     
    Your grandparents probably ate two of the meals together with family, and perhaps one with co-workers. How old do you think either of your grandparents were before they ate a meal which they acquired from a small window behind the wheel of an automobile (if ever)? My grandfather walked from Northeast Philadelphia to the railroad yards of South Philadelphia every morning for work. Then he walked all over the yard manually operating switches. I doubt that anyone does this anymore.

    There are probably endocrinological reasons having to do with plastics and pharmaceutical products finding their way into the food and water supplies, but Europeans should also have much of these stimuli and they're generally significantly slimmer than white Americans. What is striking now is how many young people in their prime years (when they would be most able to regulate their weights) are carrying loads of extra fat.

    My guess is that eschewing a culture of cuisine and communal dining as a daily ritual in favor of food as a consumer product and fuel that you acquire conveniently "on the go" so that you can get to do something else after the day at the cubicle farm ends has a deleterious effect on people's eating habits. This leads to overeating and choosing overly calorie dense options which are ubiquitous in the form of pre-prepared foods (i.e., fast food and packaged meals). Continentals seem to have held on to their cuisines and dining cultures much better than any nations caught in the gravity of the American Empire - even on week nights you'd expect a tiered meal with salads or soups and cheeses and to accompany the proteins and carbohydrates. There's definitely something to taking meals in courses with short breaks between while you're socializing that helps to moderate the volume of food consumed.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @LondonBob

    , @nebulafox
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Is anybody else struck by how much attractive and more photogenic and happier both men and women looked in old photos from the 1980s? It's really bizarre to look at that, as someone born later.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Peter D. Bredon, @Chrisnonymous, @Old Prude

  191. @J.Ross
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Movies cannot be unwatched: far better to realize what I realized years ago and go backwards. Today I finally got around to watching the movie spoiled by cartoonist Gahan Wilson (in a review he wrote in, I believe, TMoF&SF), the basis of the MST3K central concept, and a movie which is a very useful contrast to Don't Look Up, because it is a hysterical and self-righteous ecological screed with cartoonishly oversimplistic antagonists (and a resolution so dumb it drove Wilson to spoil it) -- but the fundamentals are there, so it's still a good movie, and entertaining even after its eco-hysteria has aged so poorly. I am talking about the one where Bruce Dern eats several canteloupes. You can have a fundamentally good movie, or have good elements in an overall bad movie worth watching for those elements, separate from ideology. Modern movies suck because they suck, not just because of leftoid propaganda.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    Silent Running – Trailer

    As this science fiction classic opens, botanist Freeman Lowell (Bruce Dern) has spent eight years aboard the space freighter ‘Valley Forge’ preserving the only botanical specimens left from Earth under huge geodesic domes. When he receives orders to destroy the project and return home, Lowell rebels and hijacks the freighter, while plunging the craft into the gaseous Rings of Saturn. From that moment on, he has only the trees, the gardens and two ‘Drone’ robots, Huey and Dewey, to keep him company on his greatest adventure of all.

    Silent Running (1972) | Movie Scenes | Movieclips playlist:
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZbXA4lyCtqqUvy8jfr4rwmbImp3OHRUZ

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @MEH 0910

    It honestly is a great movie, very beautiful, with a fantastic performance by Dern, despite being a hysterically wrong ecological panic.

    , @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/douglas-trumbull-dead-2001-space-odyssey-1235089009/
    https://twitter.com/THR/status/1491099959147569154

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/future-film-vfx-legend-douglas-729041/
    https://twitter.com/ScottFeinberg/status/1491113661716660224

  192. @Bernard
    https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1483934914139590657?s=20

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @Harry Baldwin

    Thanks for the link. I don’t have the heart to watch the whole thing, but this is shocking, chilling. scary, and sad. The people who put this tired, confused, corrupt, dotard in charge of our country should pay a heavy price, but we know they won’t.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Harry Baldwin

    It's awful. Watching someone struggle to hold a thought in their head long enough to complete a sentence and pretending to know what's going on. I almost feel sorry for the corrupt, handsy gimp from the great State of Wherever. Almost. In the end, we're all old and pathetic.

    It would be nice to know who the actual Chief Executives are.

    Imagine living in a country where it no longer matters who the President is. It could be a cardboard cutout of Abraham Lincoln. Pamela Anderson. Anybody. We're like the Soviet Union cycling through its gray old figureheads.

    Eventually, somebody is going to look at that vacuum forming at the head of the State apparatus and seize power. I mean, has it ever not happened?

    Replies: @Old Prude, @Ralph L

  193. @obwandiyag
    You guys are like little girls gushing over dumb movies.

    Listen. Newsflash. Movies are all dumb. Actors are hacks.

    You wouldn't know, because you've never experienced excellence, ever, in all your sad and tawdry lives.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Bill, @Erik L

    What does it mean, to “experience excellence”? Can you provide some examples for those of us on the outside?

  194. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Rob

    This deserves a lot more study than it gets. It's not entirely a matter of "eat less and exercise more." My grandparents' generation ate three solid meals a day and the only exercise anybody got was mowing the lawn or vacuuming the floors and obesity was so uncommon it was in the realm of the comedic.

    This is one of my favorite photos of Old America. Why were our waists higher as well? That seems a pretty remarkable change in physiology over three generations.

    https://i.imgur.com/PEvt3w8.jpg

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Erik L, @S. Anonyia, @Alec Leamas (working from home), @nebulafox

    Why were our waists higher as well?

    If you’re slim, your belt will be secured above your hip bones. Your navel will be at the narrowest part of your torso. For most of us, this is not the case. Our belt finds its place below our bellies.

  195. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Rob

    This deserves a lot more study than it gets. It's not entirely a matter of "eat less and exercise more." My grandparents' generation ate three solid meals a day and the only exercise anybody got was mowing the lawn or vacuuming the floors and obesity was so uncommon it was in the realm of the comedic.

    This is one of my favorite photos of Old America. Why were our waists higher as well? That seems a pretty remarkable change in physiology over three generations.

    https://i.imgur.com/PEvt3w8.jpg

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Erik L, @S. Anonyia, @Alec Leamas (working from home), @nebulafox

    I doubt peoples’ waists were higher. That was just a different style of pant. Fashions change over time.

  196. Jennifer Lawrence with a distracting nose ring

    That’s pretty disgusting.

    Much nicer:

    Tintin: The Shooting Star

    Tintin doubting The Science (which being astronomical, thus newtonian, rather than medical, thus statistical, cannot be doubted all that much):

    Tintin meets the Prophet of Doom (as doom is already ongoing):

    Much more antisemitic in the original edition (1942):

    “The end of the world could work to my advantage … I don’t need to pay my suppliers”

  197. @James Speaks
    For me, the gold standard of comedy is “The Wrong Box“

    Alas, there is another whose name I cannot recall. It opens with a woman in evening clothes walking cross country through the English countryside when she comes upon a man, who turns out to be an astronaut, asleep in a queen sized bed.

    Replies: @Alfa158

    To this day, when a catastrophe, or other significant event happens, my go-to response is “I suspect we haven’t heard the last of this”.

  198. @Anonymous
    OT

    RIP "Meatloaf".

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    https://www.tmz.com/2022/01/21/meat-loaf-dead-dies-singer/


    [MORE]

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/music-news/meat-loaf-bat-out-of-hell-singer-and-rocky-horror-picture-show-fight-club-actor-dies-at-74-1235078542/

  199. @Jack D
    @EdwardM


    the media are angels
     
    Not quite. The heroic astronomers, after being rebuffed at the White House, decide to go public and are booked on a morning talk show similar to the Kelly Ripa/Michael Strahan show but their declaration that the world is about to end gets 2nd priority . Two pop stars who have broken up with each other reconcile live on the air on this show - THAT, not the end of the world, is the REALLY BIG STORY.

    Maybe there is still potential for a movie where crusading print journalists save the Republic ala Woodward and Bernstein but that is not this movie. TV journalists are generally portrayed in the movies as buffoons.

    Nor does the government come to the rescue either - in this movie the government is in effect Trump.

    The movie in your head is not the movie that was made. I don't think anyone comes off well in this movie - there are no real heroes. Even the astronomers are flawed.

    Replies: @Dr. DoomNGloom, @nebulafox

    This movie should have been done like Simon Pegg’s “the Worlds End”, which was pretty good.
    In contrast it more closely resembles the contemporaneous and similar sounding “This is the End” , which was unwatchable. Like a bad sitcom without the laughtrack.

    Network set the standard for this type dry and broad dark humor.

  200. But the lady President (Meryl Streep as a cross between Sarah Palin and Donald Trump)

    Steve, you must have missed the part where we literally see a portrait on her desk showing her next to Bill Clinton. Not an actor playing Bill Clinton, but an actual image of Bill Clinton. Perhaps you dismissed this because it seemed to obvious to be taken at face value, or just because you don’t see anything remotely resembling Hillary in the character played by Streep?

  201. @Wilkey
    @Barnard


    Please tell me that in the end humanity is saved by a group of diverse scientists who blow up the meteor with their sheer brain power.
     
    This raises a serious question: if humanity really ever does face a threat this big, will Leftists demand that the brain trust gathered to solve it be 50% female and 40% BIPOC? Because if so we are certainly screwed.

    Case in point: President Brandon, who faces 7% inflation and the looming threat of a financial crisis, has just appointed three new members to the Federal Reserve Board: a Jewish woman, a black woman, and a black man.

    The biggest financial threat hanging over our heads in a very long time and Biden is still obsessed about "muh duh-versity." Thank God these people weren't in charge when we were trying to win World War Two.

    Replies: @bomag, @Brutusale

    Nah, a bunch of white guys and a token black will sit in a room, and the smartest guy in the room will make the appropriate recommendation. At least that’s the way the movies portray it, though I can’t believe that Fauci was the smartest guy in the room at any point.

    Ah, Fauci’s the one who got the C-!

  202. @Harry Baldwin
    @Bernard

    Thanks for the link. I don't have the heart to watch the whole thing, but this is shocking, chilling. scary, and sad. The people who put this tired, confused, corrupt, dotard in charge of our country should pay a heavy price, but we know they won't.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    It’s awful. Watching someone struggle to hold a thought in their head long enough to complete a sentence and pretending to know what’s going on. I almost feel sorry for the corrupt, handsy gimp from the great State of Wherever. Almost. In the end, we’re all old and pathetic.

    It would be nice to know who the actual Chief Executives are.

    Imagine living in a country where it no longer matters who the President is. It could be a cardboard cutout of Abraham Lincoln. Pamela Anderson. Anybody. We’re like the Soviet Union cycling through its gray old figureheads.

    Eventually, somebody is going to look at that vacuum forming at the head of the State apparatus and seize power. I mean, has it ever not happened?

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Old Prude
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Let's go Brandon. The old creep is just casting around for something nasty to say about people like me and my beliefs. He can't humiliate himself enough for my liking .

    , @Ralph L
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Now the Ear Piece of the United States is incoherent. We're fucked.

  203. @Fran Macadam
    Thanks for watching so I won't bother.

    Replies: @Alfa158

    It’s what Steve does for a meager living. He watches what illustrates where our culture is going, even if it’s dreck and then comments on it for our enlightenment and amusement.
    It’s the same reason he reads the NYT in order to document its accelerating descent into insanity and depravity so we don’t have to do it.
    Sadly, we could have ten or a hundred Steve Sailers doing this and still not exhaust the supply of SailerBait being churned out by our decaying culture.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  204. @S. Anonyia
    @Justvisiting

    Maybe it is such a remote state forest this point doesn’t really apply, but: If there are trails in the forest your dog was roaming, hikers and runners don’t want to step in dog poop.

    At least he was thinking of scooping poop. People who let their dogs off leash at the park closest to my house often let them take a dump wherever they please- soccer fields, sidewalk, frisbee golf courses, running trails, etc,

    Replies: @Justvisiting

    There are no “trails” in the area.

    There are no hikers in the area.

    What can be found are bears and other beasties of various kinds–and I pointed out to the dim relative that I refuse to scoop up their poop.

    😉

  205. @MEH 0910
    @J.Ross

    Silent Running - Trailer
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p69lEMn0I8k


    As this science fiction classic opens, botanist Freeman Lowell (Bruce Dern) has spent eight years aboard the space freighter 'Valley Forge' preserving the only botanical specimens left from Earth under huge geodesic domes. When he receives orders to destroy the project and return home, Lowell rebels and hijacks the freighter, while plunging the craft into the gaseous Rings of Saturn. From that moment on, he has only the trees, the gardens and two 'Drone' robots, Huey and Dewey, to keep him company on his greatest adventure of all.
     
    Silent Running (1972) | Movie Scenes | Movieclips playlist:
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZbXA4lyCtqqUvy8jfr4rwmbImp3OHRUZ

    Replies: @J.Ross, @MEH 0910

    It honestly is a great movie, very beautiful, with a fantastic performance by Dern, despite being a hysterically wrong ecological panic.

    • Agree: Old Prude
  206. The movie was stupid on multiple levels (I watched it in the background as my Republican in-laws nodded along). The issue with global warming is that it – like everything else – should be subject to a rational, cost-benefit analysis based on the allocation of limited resources. A comet that will literally destroy the planet is not a useful analogy. It’s ironic, because they criticized the politicization of global warming by politicizing global warming. The fact that DiCaprio was cast gave me notice that this was going to be the usual Hollywood claptrap making fun of deplorables.

    FWIW, a better counter argument to global warming hysteria is to accept the IPCC average projections and then explain to the hysterical sh-t libs that 1) it’s actually not dangerous and 2) our policy for combating it is completely irrational (ie even if everyone went along with the Paris Agreement that would mean spending many many trillions of dollars to lower the Earth’s temperature by something like 0.1 degrees – a complete and inappropriate allocation of limited resources even assuming the left is right about the “science”).

  207. @Reg Cæsar

    After all, who is more aware of the night sky: downtown Democrats or rural Republicans?
     
    I looked at Halley's Comet through the old telescope at Greenwich. Well, at hundreds of white dots, one of which we were told was Halley's.

    Hale-Bopp and Hyakutake weren't much better. We need fewer lights, or better comets.

    Replies: @WJ, @Lurker, @Old Prude

    Hyakutake was a bust, despite having a cool name. Hale-Bopp put on a good show despite having a goofy name, but it reinforced that most celestial events are boring: It just stayed there night after night, never streaking across the sky as I imagined in my childhood.

    Likewise meteor showers. Instead of a sky filled with falling stars, there is just a streak every minute or so. Saturn was impressive through a telescope – once. Lunar eclipse? Yawn.

    Large meteors burning up through the atmosphere and exploding seem to live up to the hype. Otherwise, in a human life span, the night sky is pretty, but boring.

  208. @Abe
    @Steve Sailer


    But … he’s not Pitt or Reeves when it comes to his looks, and thus needs to be in shape.
     
    Discussing the looks of male actors? What could be gayer or more boomerish. But [email protected] it, I can’t help myself either. Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, Jesse Plemons. Depending on what order you arrange them, like that famous sideways graphic “the evolution [or devolution] of man”:

    https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/70a/8bf/035e2a45436f3c1ee8bb609b2beabfd93c-9-brad-pitt.rsquare.w700.jpg

    https://files.thehandbook.com/uploads/2014/10/Matt-Damon-25.jpg

    https://hgtvhome.sndimg.com/content/dam/images/hgtv/fullset/2019/1/8/0/shutterstock_s-bukley_108248903_dallas-celebs-12.jpg.rend.hgtvcom.616.924.suffix/1546948692996.jpeg

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Loyalty Over IQ Worship, @Feryl, @Rob, @Anonymous Jew

    Has anyone else noticed the exponential increase of fat and ugly people on TV, including commercials? Whereas before there was always room for a handful of character actors – including women – now it seems that there’s a full-on post modern assault on inherent human standards of beauty. Math is racist, beauty is subjective, and if you won’t date a tranny it’s because you’re transphobic and should be fired, but really we’d rather send you to the gulags.

    • Agree: LondonBob
  209. @Steve Sailer
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Shakespeare is like opera: realistic casting isn't required.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Old Prude

    Realistic casting isn’t required, but it helps. There is a reason people joke about the fat lady singing.

    Let’s be honest: Denzel Washington is cast as Macbeth, not because he’s great for the role, but because he’s black, and this is 2022, where everything is staged to be humiliating and denigrating to white culture. Denzel as Macbeth is giving the finger to whitey.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Old Prude


    Let’s be honest: Denzel Washington is cast as Macbeth, not because he’s great for the role, but because he’s black, and this is 2022, where everything is staged to be humiliating and denigrating to white culture. Denzel as Macbeth is giving the finger to whitey.
     
    It would perhaps be interesting to cast Washington and other top flight black actors (and even to change the setting to, say, 1800s Mississippi or Haiti) if the entire entertainment industry wasn't dedicated to shoving a white hot poker into your eye at every turn and then demanding that you thank it for the honor.

    Washington is both a movie star and a very, very good actor. It's a shame that an attempt at Macbeth for him will be diminished by the other race nonsense.

    Replies: @Old Prude

  210. @SunBakedSuburb
    @YetAnotherAnon

    "It was a chap called the Yorkshire Ripper"

    Any truth in the rumour that Peter Sutcliffe and Jimmy Savile were mates?

    Replies: @Gordo, @YetAnotherAnon

    Don’t think so. Two very different types, living in two very different worlds.

    Saville, known by the nurses at the hospital he worked in as a pushy type sexually (“don’t let him get you in a stock cupboard” said a nurse) but not a jump-out-and-hit-you-on-the-head type. Sex partners – nurses, girls at Radio 1 roadshows, perhaps (doubtful IMHO) girls in care. Locations – all over the UK. Lived with his mum til she died, kept her room like a shrine. Huge celebrity status. I’m not even sure how many (if any) of the allegations against him are true, although I’m sure he slept with a lot of fans. Very bright, MENSA member.

    Sutcliffe – jump-out-and-hit-you-on-the-head type. Married to a woman who reportedly dominated him (IIRC she eventually married a journalist covering the story). Lorry driver, no sort of celebrity. Didn’t rape – just mutilated and killed. Started by attacking prostitutes but soon any woman was a target.

  211. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Harry Baldwin

    It's awful. Watching someone struggle to hold a thought in their head long enough to complete a sentence and pretending to know what's going on. I almost feel sorry for the corrupt, handsy gimp from the great State of Wherever. Almost. In the end, we're all old and pathetic.

    It would be nice to know who the actual Chief Executives are.

    Imagine living in a country where it no longer matters who the President is. It could be a cardboard cutout of Abraham Lincoln. Pamela Anderson. Anybody. We're like the Soviet Union cycling through its gray old figureheads.

    Eventually, somebody is going to look at that vacuum forming at the head of the State apparatus and seize power. I mean, has it ever not happened?

    Replies: @Old Prude, @Ralph L

    Let’s go Brandon. The old creep is just casting around for something nasty to say about people like me and my beliefs. He can’t humiliate himself enough for my liking .

    • Agree: Kylie, JMcG
  212. @Gordo
    @Bill in Glendale


    Interestingly, NASA is currently flying a “planetary defense” mission called DART to impact a very small asteroid
     
    What could possibly go wrong?

    Replies: @Pat009

    What could go wrong: NASA’s DART mission nudges the asteroid, but in the wrong direction and it hits Earth.

  213. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Rob

    This deserves a lot more study than it gets. It's not entirely a matter of "eat less and exercise more." My grandparents' generation ate three solid meals a day and the only exercise anybody got was mowing the lawn or vacuuming the floors and obesity was so uncommon it was in the realm of the comedic.

    This is one of my favorite photos of Old America. Why were our waists higher as well? That seems a pretty remarkable change in physiology over three generations.

    https://i.imgur.com/PEvt3w8.jpg

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Erik L, @S. Anonyia, @Alec Leamas (working from home), @nebulafox

    Looks like those men are just wearing their pants higher. Women briefly wore low-rise pants in the late 90s/2000s but higher-rise has been back for awhile now. I’m not sure why men still wear their pants so low; it actually accentuates most people’s extra weight.

    I’m not sure that three solid meals a day was typical other than for children. My grandparents who were born in the 1920s actually ate very little. Often just a coffee for breakfast except on weekends, a light lunch like a cup of soup, and no snacking between meals whatsoever. They also walked a lot and had home exercise equipment (though it was weird stuff like shake weights and ancient versions of Nordic Tracks).

  214. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Rob

    This deserves a lot more study than it gets. It's not entirely a matter of "eat less and exercise more." My grandparents' generation ate three solid meals a day and the only exercise anybody got was mowing the lawn or vacuuming the floors and obesity was so uncommon it was in the realm of the comedic.

    This is one of my favorite photos of Old America. Why were our waists higher as well? That seems a pretty remarkable change in physiology over three generations.

    https://i.imgur.com/PEvt3w8.jpg

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Erik L, @S. Anonyia, @Alec Leamas (working from home), @nebulafox

    This deserves a lot more study than it gets. It’s not entirely a matter of “eat less and exercise more.” My grandparents’ generation ate three solid meals a day and the only exercise anybody got was mowing the lawn or vacuuming the floors and obesity was so uncommon it was in the realm of the comedic.

    Your grandparents probably ate two of the meals together with family, and perhaps one with co-workers. How old do you think either of your grandparents were before they ate a meal which they acquired from a small window behind the wheel of an automobile (if ever)? My grandfather walked from Northeast Philadelphia to the railroad yards of South Philadelphia every morning for work. Then he walked all over the yard manually operating switches. I doubt that anyone does this anymore.

    There are probably endocrinological reasons having to do with plastics and pharmaceutical products finding their way into the food and water supplies, but Europeans should also have much of these stimuli and they’re generally significantly slimmer than white Americans. What is striking now is how many young people in their prime years (when they would be most able to regulate their weights) are carrying loads of extra fat.

    My guess is that eschewing a culture of cuisine and communal dining as a daily ritual in favor of food as a consumer product and fuel that you acquire conveniently “on the go” so that you can get to do something else after the day at the cubicle farm ends has a deleterious effect on people’s eating habits. This leads to overeating and choosing overly calorie dense options which are ubiquitous in the form of pre-prepared foods (i.e., fast food and packaged meals). Continentals seem to have held on to their cuisines and dining cultures much better than any nations caught in the gravity of the American Empire – even on week nights you’d expect a tiered meal with salads or soups and cheeses and to accompany the proteins and carbohydrates. There’s definitely something to taking meals in courses with short breaks between while you’re socializing that helps to moderate the volume of food consumed.

    • Thanks: The Anti-Gnostic
    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    Communal dining and nonfast foods?

    http://4euxkl47p0vx1fmnm22vvi3p-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/sites/default/wp-content/uploads/logos/FatMonk_300x200.jpg

    , @LondonBob
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    American food is full of sugar, and the portions are enormous compared to what we get in Europe. A lot of countries are now catching up to the US though, diabetes and obesity is exploding from Saudi to China.

    When I moved from London to Moscow I lost a stone without changing anything much within a couple of weeks and then kept the weight off, so the Russians aren't processing their food the way we do in the West.

  215. @Steve Sailer
    @Wilkey

    Thanks.

    Rylance is superb as Lightoller in "Dunkirk."

    Replies: @Wilkey

    Rylance was artistic director of the Globe Theatre, a reconstruction of Shakespeare’s original theatre, for ten years. He’s been memorable in every role I’ve seen him in (none of them on stage, unfortunately).

    The way the Dawson/Lightoller character is written and performed is brilliant on so many levels. A lesser writer/director than Nolan would have laid all of Lightoller’s/Dawson’s cards on the table: “Hey! I was on the Titanic and sank a U-Boat during The Great War!” A lesser actor wouldn’t have been able to pull off the character as it was actually written.

    Nolan had to change the name at least because of some significant changes he made to Lightoller’s trip across the Channel. But the name change also worked because while “Dawson” is mostly Lightoller, he also serves as a stand-in for so many other Britons who made the journey across the Channel to rescue their men.

    And the way Rylance plays the character leaves you wondering if there’s something deeper there that Nolan never let’s you on to. I knew “Dawson” probably wasn’t a real name, but it was something I almost immediately Googled the second we left the theatre.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Wilkey


    And the way Rylance plays the character leaves you wondering if there’s something deeper there that Nolan isn’t letting on to. I knew “Dawson” probably wasn’t a real name, but it was something I almost immediately Googled the second we left the theatre.
     
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-X6gkLheRsWE/XtX6rBUFn2I/AAAAAAABZeE/lbJK-PJJlP0OBu2VcKJE6GLGMQur_xXfACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/richard-dawson--hogans-heroes%2B%25288%2529.jpg

    http://lamorguefiles.blogspot.com/2020/06/hogans-heroes-actor-richard-dawson-2012.html
  216. @Wilkey
    @Steve Sailer

    Rylance was artistic director of the Globe Theatre, a reconstruction of Shakespeare's original theatre, for ten years. He's been memorable in every role I've seen him in (none of them on stage, unfortunately).

    The way the Dawson/Lightoller character is written and performed is brilliant on so many levels. A lesser writer/director than Nolan would have laid all of Lightoller's/Dawson's cards on the table: "Hey! I was on the Titanic and sank a U-Boat during The Great War!" A lesser actor wouldn't have been able to pull off the character as it was actually written.

    Nolan had to change the name at least because of some significant changes he made to Lightoller's trip across the Channel. But the name change also worked because while "Dawson" is mostly Lightoller, he also serves as a stand-in for so many other Britons who made the journey across the Channel to rescue their men.

    And the way Rylance plays the character leaves you wondering if there's something deeper there that Nolan never let's you on to. I knew "Dawson" probably wasn't a real name, but it was something I almost immediately Googled the second we left the theatre.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    And the way Rylance plays the character leaves you wondering if there’s something deeper there that Nolan isn’t letting on to. I knew “Dawson” probably wasn’t a real name, but it was something I almost immediately Googled the second we left the theatre.

    http://lamorguefiles.blogspot.com/2020/06/hogans-heroes-actor-richard-dawson-2012.html

  217. @Jack D
    @EdwardM


    the media are angels
     
    Not quite. The heroic astronomers, after being rebuffed at the White House, decide to go public and are booked on a morning talk show similar to the Kelly Ripa/Michael Strahan show but their declaration that the world is about to end gets 2nd priority . Two pop stars who have broken up with each other reconcile live on the air on this show - THAT, not the end of the world, is the REALLY BIG STORY.

    Maybe there is still potential for a movie where crusading print journalists save the Republic ala Woodward and Bernstein but that is not this movie. TV journalists are generally portrayed in the movies as buffoons.

    Nor does the government come to the rescue either - in this movie the government is in effect Trump.

    The movie in your head is not the movie that was made. I don't think anyone comes off well in this movie - there are no real heroes. Even the astronomers are flawed.

    Replies: @Dr. DoomNGloom, @nebulafox

    >save the Republic ala Woodward and Bernstein

    Hardly. Woodward and Bernstein were being used by one of Hoover’s COINTELPRO henchmen who was pissy about Nixon choosing one of his own unqualified cronies to succeed Hoover rather than an FBI man, namely, him. (It’s not like he didn’t have a point: one could make the case that nobody has properly run the FBI since Hoover himself.) Most of the stuff he gave Woodstein which would be used as a Hail Mary attack by the Post in October 1972 turned out to be completely false, according to FBI internal memos.

    What brought Nixon down was a confluence of factors in early 1973 that had little to do with the Fourth Estate: Judge Sirica, a desperate and irritated Senate, a cooperating *post-Hoover* FBI, L. Patrick Gray’s testimony, etc. Even after the scandal exploded in late April, had the taping system not existed, Nixon would have likely served out his term as a wounded but intact POTUS.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @nebulafox


    Most of the stuff he gave Woodstein which would be used as a Hail Mary attack by the Post in October 1972 turned out to be completely false, according to FBI internal memos.
     
    So you're saying that, for political reasons, the FBI leaks to the press an incriminating dossier about a sitting President and most of the contents of the dossier are false?

    That would never happen in America. And if it happened once, we would never fall for that same bullshit another time. Then we would REALLY be fools.

    Replies: @nebulafox

  218. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Rob

    This deserves a lot more study than it gets. It's not entirely a matter of "eat less and exercise more." My grandparents' generation ate three solid meals a day and the only exercise anybody got was mowing the lawn or vacuuming the floors and obesity was so uncommon it was in the realm of the comedic.

    This is one of my favorite photos of Old America. Why were our waists higher as well? That seems a pretty remarkable change in physiology over three generations.

    https://i.imgur.com/PEvt3w8.jpg

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Erik L, @S. Anonyia, @Alec Leamas (working from home), @nebulafox

    Is anybody else struck by how much attractive and more photogenic and happier both men and women looked in old photos from the 1980s? It’s really bizarre to look at that, as someone born later.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @nebulafox

    I was a young man in the 1980s. I call it the Last White Decade. Fun times, and you can tell from the music.

    , @Peter D. Bredon
    @nebulafox

    https://dazedimg-dazedgroup.netdna-ssl.com/900/azure/dazed-prod/1070/3/1073059.jpg

    Replies: @nebulafox

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @nebulafox

    One thing I've never seen people comment on is the psychological geography of various eras. The 1980s were a warm-weather decade, and this influenced our experience of the time as well as memories and photos.

    Shows like Miami Vice, Golden Girls, Dallas, Magnum PI, all moved our mental lives into the south. Even shows like Knight Rider and The A Team were inevitably filmed in the southwest and looked like summer.

    Top Gun was California in summer. Raiders of the Lost Ark was the middle east and Temple of Doom was India. You can keep going in this vein too. Maybe the one big exception was The Empire Strikes Back.

    Also, I'm not sure which influenced which, but the rise of fitness culture in the 1980s made people want to show off their bodies more, a very warm-weather phenomenon.

    It's interesting that most of my memories from the 1980s are summer memories.

    Constrast with the 1990s--rap and hip hop came from the dark recesses of East Coast metropolises while grunge music came from the Pacific Northwest.

    Anyway, yes, people looked happy in the 1980s. It was an era of warmth, freedom, and optimism.

    , @Old Prude
    @nebulafox

    "Old photos from the 1980's". Ouch. FWIW, it is true I was much more attractive and photogenic and happier back the the "old" days.

  219. @Meretricious
    You guys are vastly underestimating the incredible acting chops of Leonardo DiCaprio. Can anyone on this board imagine either Keanu Reeves or Brad Pitt playing Jordan Belfort? No way! Actors like DiCaprio and Christian Bale are artists of the first rank, and they should be respected

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @anon, @Kylie

    “You guys are vastly underestimating the incredible acting chops of Leonardo DiCaprio…Actors like DiCaprio and Christian Bale are artists of the first rank, and they should be respected.”

    Totally agree. DiCaprio and Bale are the two best actors working in films today and two of the best ever. I think Bale is a slightly better actor than DiCaprio. But the latter has incredible onscreen charisma. I don’t think he’s handsome and I deplore his politics but when he’s onscreen, I am transfixed by him.

  220. @Steve Sailer
    @Not Raul

    Haven't seen Joel Coen's Macbeth.

    It would be interesting to know whether the Coen Brothers finally taking a hiatus from each other had to do with Joel's wife Frances McDormand's diversity waiver speech at the Oscars? I pointed out the next day that the Coen Brothers' movies are both very good and very white.

    I've long admired how the Coen Brothers have managed to avoid splitting up due to sibling rivalry and how they have therefore been an inspiration to other pairs of brothers. But now they aren't working together on Joel's "Macbeth."

    I presume Joel feels that casting his wife opposite the greatest black leading man, Denzel, is a clever solution for his marital problem with his wife demanding diversity without giving in and casting an inept black actor. Will Denzel make a good Macbeth? Maybe, maybe not, but it's hard to say after Denzel's career that he doesn't deserve to try.

    On other other hand, if you are Ethan Coen, maybe your sister-in-law's diversity demands have gotten on your nerves?

    Replies: @Meretricious, @S Johnson, @James of Africa, @The Anti-Gnostic, @NorthOfTheOneOhOne, @R.G. Camara, @Mr. Anon, @Harry Baldwin, @keypusher, @Not Raul

    Washington and McDormand are both too old for their parts, and he has a big, solid, blocky body that just isn’t right for Macbeth. He looks almost like he’s wearing overalls. Also, if you pay attention to the language, Macbeth talks about his own skin color from time to time (“Cancel and tear to pieces that great bond which keeps me pale”, etc.), so that’s disconcerting. Those of us of a certain age will never reconcile ourselves to “colorblind” casting, I guess. Anyway, I don’t think Macbeth is supposed to act like he just took a Xanax.

    It has its points (Kathyrn Hunter as the weird sisters is great), but overall this production left me wondering why they bothered. Seeing the dutiful positive reviews reinforces my sense that we’re all playing forgettable parts in a tiresome play that should have closed long ago.

  221. @nebulafox
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Is anybody else struck by how much attractive and more photogenic and happier both men and women looked in old photos from the 1980s? It's really bizarre to look at that, as someone born later.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Peter D. Bredon, @Chrisnonymous, @Old Prude

    I was a young man in the 1980s. I call it the Last White Decade. Fun times, and you can tell from the music.

    • Agree: LondonBob
  222. @John Johnson
    Cheney could meet with oil company CEOs in secret—controversies that weren’t very exciting even when they were happening. Vice winds up being neither tragic nor comic: It’s like Anchorman without laughs.

    I'm going to disagree with you on Vice.

    I thought it was funny but probably didn't reach the intended conclusion.

    To me it was just sad that the GOP ran the "guy to drink a beer with" while the real strategist had to live behind the curtain. Kind of a modern day Wizard of Oz.

    It was unneeded but additional evidence that neither party is interested in hiring the best of the best.

    Biden was actually considered by leftists to be a mediocre corporate sell out before they dubbed him the moderate to beat Trump.

    Replies: @JMcG

    Yes, he was the Senator from MBNA forever. I managed to watch most of his press conference the other day. He’s really in bad shape.

  223. @Old Prude
    @Steve Sailer

    Realistic casting isn't required, but it helps. There is a reason people joke about the fat lady singing.

    Let's be honest: Denzel Washington is cast as Macbeth, not because he's great for the role, but because he's black, and this is 2022, where everything is staged to be humiliating and denigrating to white culture. Denzel as Macbeth is giving the finger to whitey.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    Let’s be honest: Denzel Washington is cast as Macbeth, not because he’s great for the role, but because he’s black, and this is 2022, where everything is staged to be humiliating and denigrating to white culture. Denzel as Macbeth is giving the finger to whitey.

    It would perhaps be interesting to cast Washington and other top flight black actors (and even to change the setting to, say, 1800s Mississippi or Haiti) if the entire entertainment industry wasn’t dedicated to shoving a white hot poker into your eye at every turn and then demanding that you thank it for the honor.

    Washington is both a movie star and a very, very good actor. It’s a shame that an attempt at Macbeth for him will be diminished by the other race nonsense.

    • Replies: @Old Prude
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    I agree changing the setting of Macbeth to make it relevant to a black cast would be an interesting project with a lot of potential.

  224. I’ll invest in a film that depicts the efforts of science-based heroes trying to convince the stubbornly foolish people of Earth that they face devastation from Mars retrograde, constantly foiled by the fake news produced by a malign conspiracy of Horoscope Deniers.

    Tagline: “This Time, It’s Factual.”

  225. @nebulafox
    @Jack D

    >save the Republic ala Woodward and Bernstein

    Hardly. Woodward and Bernstein were being used by one of Hoover's COINTELPRO henchmen who was pissy about Nixon choosing one of his own unqualified cronies to succeed Hoover rather than an FBI man, namely, him. (It's not like he didn't have a point: one could make the case that nobody has properly run the FBI since Hoover himself.) Most of the stuff he gave Woodstein which would be used as a Hail Mary attack by the Post in October 1972 turned out to be completely false, according to FBI internal memos.

    What brought Nixon down was a confluence of factors in early 1973 that had little to do with the Fourth Estate: Judge Sirica, a desperate and irritated Senate, a cooperating *post-Hoover* FBI, L. Patrick Gray's testimony, etc. Even after the scandal exploded in late April, had the taping system not existed, Nixon would have likely served out his term as a wounded but intact POTUS.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Most of the stuff he gave Woodstein which would be used as a Hail Mary attack by the Post in October 1972 turned out to be completely false, according to FBI internal memos.

    So you’re saying that, for political reasons, the FBI leaks to the press an incriminating dossier about a sitting President and most of the contents of the dossier are false?

    That would never happen in America. And if it happened once, we would never fall for that same bullshit another time. Then we would REALLY be fools.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Jack D

    It wasn't for political reasons, it was for career ones. Felt was in charge of COINTELPRO before it was disbanded, so if anything, my guess is that he was more ideologically sympathetic to Nixon than to his enemies. He was just far too much of a Hoover loyalist to allow Gray's nomination to go unanswered.

    (FWIW, Nixon-who was many, many things, but not even his worst detractors ever called him stupid or unintelligent/unaware, which speaks volumes-knew it was Felt who was leaking, and it is a sign of how little that actually mattered that he didn't respond. Again, Watergate blew up due to completely unrelated causes.)

    But yes, your point is taken. I suppose there's a sort of karmic irony that Hoover's least favorite Washington institution used the fact that two of their buck reporters were deployed as useful idiots by one of his favorite men as the modern Fourth Estate's (rather narcissistic) foundational myth.

  226. @John Johnson
    @Abe

    Discussing the looks of male actors? What could be gayer or more boomerish.

    Great question. You guys are gay boomers.

    If I wasn't married I wouldn't watch half of these stupid movies and you guys talk about the actors?

    I actually almost knocked out a boomer today.

    Definitely wasn't Steve or Bannon so it would have been fine.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

    DiCaprio has gotten more p*ssy than all the Men of Unz combined. Hence all the nitpicking and hate. It’s not so much jealousy (although there’s some of that) but that the existence of DiCaprio knocks into a cocked hat all their “evolutionary psychology” and “game” copes about “what women want.”

    “What women want is not DiCaprio”
    Yet, DiCaprio.

    Right wing thought on many issues, in a nutshell. Christianity, Traditionalism, libertarianism, evolutionary psychology, game, whatever, there’s always an brainy ideology to believe in, whatever stinky old reality seems to say.

    “More theology and geometry!” — Ignatius Reilly

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @James J O'Meara

    I really don't get it at all.

    I don't have any interest in discussing female actresses either.

    Most movies are Hollywood garbage and barely worth watching let alone discussing.

    , @Feryl
    @James J O'Meara

    You do realize that Leo is a celebrity, right? Back in the 80's even serial killers had groupies. Men in the entertainment industry, once reasonably famous, obviously will attract women. BFD. The entertainment industry has historically put up with immature, spoiled, and sociopathic jerks (hence all the me-too stuff concentrated in that industry, and guys like Weinstein and Louis CK having all the charm of a rusty machete). Making it big in that industry, who cares? "Jealous haters"? Nah, perfectly wholesome guys historically just like to pick on pretty boys who maybe, just maybe, can't be relied on to sweat and bleed honestly. It really says something about how decadent we must be that a baby faced and nepotism blessed teen idol is supposed to be entitled to respect, because, why? Why should Joe Q Rube give a crap about decadent modern stage America and it's openly lame, obnoxious, and talentless celebrities?

    Replies: @Meretricious, @J.Ross, @Harry Baldwin, @John Johnson

    , @Anon
    @James J O'Meara


    DiCaprio has gotten more p*ssy than all the Men of Unz combined. Hence all the nitpicking and hate. It’s not so much jealousy (although there’s some of that) but that the existence of DiCaprio knocks into a cocked hat all their “evolutionary psychology” and “game” copes about “what women want.”
     
    He's a world famous actor and apparently has a fortune around $300 million dollars. I'm pretty sure evolutionary psychology says that women are really attracted to extremely famous and wealthy men. And none of the Men of Unz nor "game" proponents would disagree.

    It's also the case that he's pretty schlubby looking now in his middle age and if he weren't famous and wealthy wouldn't be pulling young supermodels.
  227. @Red Pill Angel
    @Feryl

    Ok, DeCaprio’s kind of pie-faced, but he doesn’t look effeminate or especially low-T to me. His face has beefed out in the way that men’s faces do in their forties or however old he is. He has typically European features and was very pretty as a teen as many European men are. Too bad DeCaprio doesn’t have any daughters, because they would probably be pretty. Trump’s sons are rather birdlike, because their mothers had delicate features. European women are pretty but they pass this on to their sons. Do you guys want to look like Neanderthals? Jeez.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @Feryl

    “Do you guys want to look like Neanderthals? Jeez.”

    I’m guessing the modal Man of Unz does in fact resemble a Neanderthal, hence the attraction to theories about what “evolution makes women want” and hence the puzzlement over DiCaprio.

  228. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    This deserves a lot more study than it gets. It’s not entirely a matter of “eat less and exercise more.” My grandparents’ generation ate three solid meals a day and the only exercise anybody got was mowing the lawn or vacuuming the floors and obesity was so uncommon it was in the realm of the comedic.
     
    Your grandparents probably ate two of the meals together with family, and perhaps one with co-workers. How old do you think either of your grandparents were before they ate a meal which they acquired from a small window behind the wheel of an automobile (if ever)? My grandfather walked from Northeast Philadelphia to the railroad yards of South Philadelphia every morning for work. Then he walked all over the yard manually operating switches. I doubt that anyone does this anymore.

    There are probably endocrinological reasons having to do with plastics and pharmaceutical products finding their way into the food and water supplies, but Europeans should also have much of these stimuli and they're generally significantly slimmer than white Americans. What is striking now is how many young people in their prime years (when they would be most able to regulate their weights) are carrying loads of extra fat.

    My guess is that eschewing a culture of cuisine and communal dining as a daily ritual in favor of food as a consumer product and fuel that you acquire conveniently "on the go" so that you can get to do something else after the day at the cubicle farm ends has a deleterious effect on people's eating habits. This leads to overeating and choosing overly calorie dense options which are ubiquitous in the form of pre-prepared foods (i.e., fast food and packaged meals). Continentals seem to have held on to their cuisines and dining cultures much better than any nations caught in the gravity of the American Empire - even on week nights you'd expect a tiered meal with salads or soups and cheeses and to accompany the proteins and carbohydrates. There's definitely something to taking meals in courses with short breaks between while you're socializing that helps to moderate the volume of food consumed.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @LondonBob

    Communal dining and nonfast foods?

  229. @nebulafox
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Is anybody else struck by how much attractive and more photogenic and happier both men and women looked in old photos from the 1980s? It's really bizarre to look at that, as someone born later.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Peter D. Bredon, @Chrisnonymous, @Old Prude

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Peter D. Bredon

    Blow and booze beats the hell out of opoids and blue screens, trust me.

  230. @Fluesterwitz
    @Brian Reilly

    Sturgeon's Law: 90% of everything is trash.
    Of course, your 10% and mine need not overlap, completely or at all.

    Replies: @Alrenous

    This is because in fact 100% of everything is trash.

    You just like 10% of it anyway.

    Which is, let’s be real, better than the alternative.

  231. @Jack D
    @nebulafox


    Most of the stuff he gave Woodstein which would be used as a Hail Mary attack by the Post in October 1972 turned out to be completely false, according to FBI internal memos.
     
    So you're saying that, for political reasons, the FBI leaks to the press an incriminating dossier about a sitting President and most of the contents of the dossier are false?

    That would never happen in America. And if it happened once, we would never fall for that same bullshit another time. Then we would REALLY be fools.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    It wasn’t for political reasons, it was for career ones. Felt was in charge of COINTELPRO before it was disbanded, so if anything, my guess is that he was more ideologically sympathetic to Nixon than to his enemies. He was just far too much of a Hoover loyalist to allow Gray’s nomination to go unanswered.

    (FWIW, Nixon-who was many, many things, but not even his worst detractors ever called him stupid or unintelligent/unaware, which speaks volumes-knew it was Felt who was leaking, and it is a sign of how little that actually mattered that he didn’t respond. Again, Watergate blew up due to completely unrelated causes.)

    But yes, your point is taken. I suppose there’s a sort of karmic irony that Hoover’s least favorite Washington institution used the fact that two of their buck reporters were deployed as useful idiots by one of his favorite men as the modern Fourth Estate’s (rather narcissistic) foundational myth.

  232. @Rooster12
    @EdwardM

    I whole heartedly agree. What gets me is there are many right-leaning folks, like many on this site, who will watch this movie and give genuine critique of it. Whereas, imagine the roles reversed and the liberals made to look like absolute fools in a movie… do you think any on the left would watch it let alone honestly critique it?! Heck, they’d be trying to cancel it off Netflix, calling it racist, the director would be banned from Hollywood. It truly goes to show the difference in mentality between the two sides.

    Replies: @Anonymous Jew

    Better yet, imagine if we taught the opposite of CRT in schools: HBD.

    That’s the gist of it. You can protest from the left, teach from the left etc, but if you do anything comparable from the right our quasi-totalitarian overloads will ruin your life. The left is in charge, make no mistake.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
  233. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Harry Baldwin

    It's awful. Watching someone struggle to hold a thought in their head long enough to complete a sentence and pretending to know what's going on. I almost feel sorry for the corrupt, handsy gimp from the great State of Wherever. Almost. In the end, we're all old and pathetic.

    It would be nice to know who the actual Chief Executives are.

    Imagine living in a country where it no longer matters who the President is. It could be a cardboard cutout of Abraham Lincoln. Pamela Anderson. Anybody. We're like the Soviet Union cycling through its gray old figureheads.

    Eventually, somebody is going to look at that vacuum forming at the head of the State apparatus and seize power. I mean, has it ever not happened?

    Replies: @Old Prude, @Ralph L

    Now the Ear Piece of the United States is incoherent. We’re fucked.

    • LOL: Old Prude
  234. @John Milton's Ghost
    Great to have a shout-out to _This is the End_, a stoner movie that, if it had any conscious commentary embedded within it, was an attack on fundamentalists who believe in the Rapture, but in fact basically skewered every idiot who makes a living in Hollywood. Sometimes movies wind up great by accident.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Hapalong Cassidy, @Sam Haysom

    I’m sure Steve will be along to correctly point out why this is a pretty low level take- first off the Rapture happens being a complete vindication of fundamentalists and it is the only the Christian by upbringing characters that figure out what is going on.

    If I recall Steve even thinks he’s figured out the denomination of the fat black dude that’s in all the Pizza Hut commercial’s character.

  235. @Meretricious
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    not a good was to parse Denzel: his problem, like John Wayne's, is he possesses a narrow range as an actor and simply does not have the chops to do the difficult roles--and Shakespeare is difficult!

    Replies: @Sam Haysom

    This is an interesting point-because Washington’s range is different from most black actors he seems like a versatile actor. But in reality you are correct like Wayne he is a talented but limited actor.

  236. @nebulafox
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Is anybody else struck by how much attractive and more photogenic and happier both men and women looked in old photos from the 1980s? It's really bizarre to look at that, as someone born later.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Peter D. Bredon, @Chrisnonymous, @Old Prude

    One thing I’ve never seen people comment on is the psychological geography of various eras. The 1980s were a warm-weather decade, and this influenced our experience of the time as well as memories and photos.

    Shows like Miami Vice, Golden Girls, Dallas, Magnum PI, all moved our mental lives into the south. Even shows like Knight Rider and The A Team were inevitably filmed in the southwest and looked like summer.

    Top Gun was California in summer. Raiders of the Lost Ark was the middle east and Temple of Doom was India. You can keep going in this vein too. Maybe the one big exception was The Empire Strikes Back.

    Also, I’m not sure which influenced which, but the rise of fitness culture in the 1980s made people want to show off their bodies more, a very warm-weather phenomenon.

    It’s interesting that most of my memories from the 1980s are summer memories.

    Constrast with the 1990s–rap and hip hop came from the dark recesses of East Coast metropolises while grunge music came from the Pacific Northwest.

    Anyway, yes, people looked happy in the 1980s. It was an era of warmth, freedom, and optimism.

  237. @Peter D. Bredon
    @nebulafox

    https://dazedimg-dazedgroup.netdna-ssl.com/900/azure/dazed-prod/1070/3/1073059.jpg

    Replies: @nebulafox

    Blow and booze beats the hell out of opoids and blue screens, trust me.

  238. @Joe Stalin
    @Kronos


    “ The Battle at Lake Changjin” is a pro-Chinese film concerning the Korean War.
     
    ChiCom movie about Chosin Reservoir.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95CgkrRgp4I

    The Battle of Chosin Reservoir marked a prominent moment in the Korean War. During the 17 days of fierce battle amidst freezing weather, 30,000 United Nations Command troops were surrounded by 120,000 People's Volunteer Army soldiers from China. These men were under direct orders from Mao Zedong to destroy the United Nations' forces...

    The U.S. troops found themselves in the middle of the harshest winter recorded during the war. They were out of supplies, and their guns had frozen. Desperate for artillery, they placed their hope for survival on an artillery airdrop. But to their surprise, the one such drop contained nothing but Tootsie Rolls.

    The Chinese had the U.S. X Corps trapped, or so they thought. However, the U.S. would ultimately pull off a daring breakout to accomplish the "greatest evacuation movement by sea in U.S. military history." The battle has since become even more legendary thanks to tales about how the Tootsie Rolls actually saved the U.S. soldiers...

     

    Resulted in the evacuation of Hungnam, North Korea in 1950 including 100K civilians ahead of the Chicoms.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPUVcOiYodM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL8Z51fjTMo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUQD073Qg1s

    Replies: @Kronos

    Thanks for providing further elaboration Mr. Stalin. I know you and Chairman Mao weren’t on the best of terms at the time. That Sino-Soviet split was a nasty political divorce.

  239. On the plus side, as a Rust Belt Christian skate punk, I liked Timothée Chalamet more than in any other of his movies I’ve seen, and almost felt like forgiving him for how his name is spelled.

    Ummm…so you, Steve Sailer, being, as you are, a Rust Belt Christian skate punk, liked Chalamet’s performance?

  240. @James J O'Meara
    @John Johnson

    DiCaprio has gotten more p*ssy than all the Men of Unz combined. Hence all the nitpicking and hate. It's not so much jealousy (although there's some of that) but that the existence of DiCaprio knocks into a cocked hat all their "evolutionary psychology" and "game" copes about "what women want."

    "What women want is not DiCaprio"
    Yet, DiCaprio.

    Right wing thought on many issues, in a nutshell. Christianity, Traditionalism, libertarianism, evolutionary psychology, game, whatever, there's always an brainy ideology to believe in, whatever stinky old reality seems to say.

    "More theology and geometry!" -- Ignatius Reilly

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Feryl, @Anon

    I really don’t get it at all.

    I don’t have any interest in discussing female actresses either.

    Most movies are Hollywood garbage and barely worth watching let alone discussing.

  241. Anonymous[141] • Disclaimer says:
    @Nicholas Stix
    ...which rhymes with p...

    The last picture I saw through to the end was Spellbound, a 1945 Hitchcock masterpiece with a Ben Hecht script, a surreal dream sequence by Dali, produced by "Zero," starring Ingrid Bergman and Greg Peck, with a featured performance by Michael Chekov, and brilliant work by actors so obscure you don't even recognize their faces, much less their names (e.g., two guys playing detectives who are so in tune with each other, they don't even have to finish each other's sentences). Oh, and Miklós Rózsa composed a score so overwhelming--including the use of a theremin--that Hitch refused to ever work with him again! The Master of Suspense complained that the composer upstaged his direction. But at least, Rózsa won an Oscar, at a time when the Oscar meant something.

    I try not to watch pictures made after Saving Private Ryan (1998).

    Replies: @Anonymous

    There’s been a lot of movies I enjoyed post 1998. Just off the top of my head:

    Blackhawk Down
    City of God
    District 9
    Dredd
    End of Watch
    Eternal Sunshine of the Spotted Mind
    Grand Budapest Hotel, The
    Hurt Locker, The
    Inception
    Incredibles, The
    Inglorious Basterds (parts were silly, but Landau was amazing)
    Lost in Translation (having done a business trip to the Orient…)
    Lives of Others, The
    Minority Report
    Mud
    Predestination
    Primer
    Talented Mr. Ripley, The
    Unbreakable
    Zodiac

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Good list.

    Replies: @Pat Kittle

    , @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    >includes Dredd
    >does not include the two part Indonesian brilliance it shamelessly ripped off
    You deserve the hammer.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KJ0N7ik3yI

    , @John Johnson
    @Anonymous

    I will add a few:

    Bourne Series
    There Will Be Blood
    No Country for Old Men
    Solo
    Cabin in the Woods
    Blue Ruin
    Blade Runner 2049
    Dune
    Mandy

  242. @Mike Tre
    A couple of underrated comedies worth a look:

    PCU (a young Jeremy Piven and Jon Favreau, a cameo-ish role by David Spade) that takes to task the PC (U) atmosphere of university life (except the sport jacket sporting Republicans end up being the bad guys)

    Grandma's Boy, starting pretty much the entirety of Adam Sandler's supporting cast he uses in every one of his films, except without Adam Sandler (although he produces.) Grandma is played by the mother from Everyone Loves Raymond and she's a riot.

    And speaking of nose rings - half the middle aged softball moms I am acquainted with sport them. So I think the idea that they represent damaged goods is no longer anymore likely than just a typical female seeking an accessory that draws attention. And while jewelry can sometimes enhance a woman's appearance, nose rings do nothing to add to a female's looks in any positive way.

    Lastly, I'll never knowingly see one of this McKay guy's flicks. Another Hollywood loser with an axe to grind.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @David Davenport, @Ben tillman

    They sound like damaged goods to me. They are aesthetically damaged, physically damaged, and likely damaged in the sense you are talking about.

  243. @Anonymous
    @Nicholas Stix

    There's been a lot of movies I enjoyed post 1998. Just off the top of my head:

    Blackhawk Down
    City of God
    District 9
    Dredd
    End of Watch
    Eternal Sunshine of the Spotted Mind
    Grand Budapest Hotel, The
    Hurt Locker, The
    Inception
    Incredibles, The
    Inglorious Basterds (parts were silly, but Landau was amazing)
    Lost in Translation (having done a business trip to the Orient...)
    Lives of Others, The
    Minority Report
    Mud
    Predestination
    Primer
    Talented Mr. Ripley, The
    Unbreakable
    Zodiac

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @J.Ross, @John Johnson

    Good list.

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
    @Steve Sailer


    Good list.
     
    OK, Sailer, we’re onto ya, we’ve done the math.

    It’s chronologically impossible for you to have read, heard, viewed, witnessed, experienced & done everything you cite, not to mention consistently delivering brilliant reports on it all.

    How many ghost writers you got workin for ya??

  244. Absolute horse manure. Turned it off after five minutes.

  245. “Don’t Look Up” is widely seen as a satire concerning Climate Change or, alternatively, the Pandemic. It is neither.

    The reviews I’ve read misinterpret it. You won’t find many accurate reviews of this movie, in part because it is so brutal about media, not to mention American politics. The core message is that our culture is poisoning everything else. And that we are incapable of taking our own decline seriously.

    These days it is rare to see a Hollywood movie of actual social import and insight, an important reason why I value this unique film. Science/politics is but one of the significant themes. And Trump and Hillary blend into one character satirized by Meryl Streep.

    I compare it to the incomparable “Dr. Strangelove” 60 years ago, with all our Gods going into the brutal wood chipper of satire and never coming out the same. The difference is that with Strangelove, one knew that at least in the background there was a plausible reason for nuclear weapons–, namely deterrence. With this movie NOTHING can be justified. Families are readily divisible and abandoned (the President abandons her son!). The military and academia are both corrupt. Law enforcement is mindless. Politicians worship only power. Celebrity entertainment is gross. The citizenry is both gullible and scorned. Science (Di Caprio) is bought off. The media has the same influence on the body politic as strychnine. Wealth is everything, as seen especially in the effeminate “Tim Cook” character and his BASH/Apple enterprise. Only at the end, when all is lost, do we see a family unification and a vestigial religion take hold, but it’s too late.

    The only reviewer I’ve read who comes anywhere close to the reality of the movie is Mick LaSalle. As he says, the movie condemns: “TV news, newspapers, social media, government and business.”

    In my opinion, and speaking only of America, our country began to go off the rails in the 60’s and the pace steadily accelerates. After almost 60 years our public life has become an abomination. Every empire has its day and they all come to an end. The movie tells us to honor the old and permanent values: family, faith, truth, honesty, respect for each other, solidarity. But we’re not listening. The movie was for me a powerful depressant.

    The actors were all superb and the plot moved along. The only criticism I would make of it is that it’s a bit too long.

  246. @J.Ross
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Now, now. Don't ask him to perform. He's not going to perform so don't ask him.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

  247. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Good list.

    Replies: @Pat Kittle

    Good list.

    OK, Sailer, we’re onto ya, we’ve done the math.

    It’s chronologically impossible for you to have read, heard, viewed, witnessed, experienced & done everything you cite, not to mention consistently delivering brilliant reports on it all.

    How many ghost writers you got workin for ya??

  248. https://deadline.com/2022/01/january-6-insurrection-movie-billy-ray-adam-mckay-1234916344/

    EXCLUSIVE: The January 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, considered the worst domestic attack on democracy since the Civil War, will be the subject of J6, a feature film scripted and to be directed by Billy Ray as his follow-up to the highly rated Showtime miniseries The Comey Rule. Joining him is Adam McKay, who is in the Oscar hunt now for Don’t Look Up. McKay will produce along with Todd Schulman, Josh McLaughlin, Cullen Hoback and Shane Salerno, latter of whom was exec producer on the Jeff Daniel-Brendan Gleeson starrer The Comey Rule.

    • LOL: S. Anonyia
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @MEH 0910

    This would be a great movie if they went into what was really going on, but of course it will just ram the narrative down the throats of the idiots who watch it. Is the plan to get it out before the mid-terms or will they wait till 2024?

    , @Feryl
    @MEH 0910

    Wow, so you're telling me that a Hollywood production is dominated by Jews and (non Scotch-Irish Protestant) Brits, with a Med begrudgingly accepted, but gentile Teutons and Slavs are totally absent? "We" shouldn't spend our time or money to masochistically watch the non-stop degradation of our people by our eternal enemies. Get it, people? Anglo and Jew supremacists will continue to crush the barbarian white tribes, BAMN.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @J.Ross
    @MEH 0910

    >the Comey Rule
    I hadn't even known this existed. Normally every flaming establishment garbage dump gets heavily shilled on 4chan (especially if it defames Trump), scenes and lines will be fake-viralled through twitter, plus the directors will get interviews on NPR and maybe wider advertising. I've never heard of this.

    , @Justvisiting
    @MEH 0910

    The J6 movie promises to be the biggest pile of horse-dung since "Hidden Figures".

    ;-)

    , @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    https://deadline.com/2022/02/adam-mckay-on-dont-look-up-oscar-noms-bad-blood-the-uninhabitable-earth-1234928558/
    https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1491096704565022720


    After watching his end-of-the-world satire Don’t Look Up notch four Oscar nominations this morning, in the categories of Best Picture, Original Screenplay, Original Score and Editing, writer-director Adam McKay spoke with Deadline about the film’s recognition and real-world impact, as well as upcoming projects ranging from the HBO series Winning Time: The Rise of the Lakers Dynasty, to his HBO Max series The Uninhabitable Earth and his Elizabeth Holmes film Bad Blood for Apple.
     

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  249. @Red Pill Angel
    @Feryl

    Ok, DeCaprio’s kind of pie-faced, but he doesn’t look effeminate or especially low-T to me. His face has beefed out in the way that men’s faces do in their forties or however old he is. He has typically European features and was very pretty as a teen as many European men are. Too bad DeCaprio doesn’t have any daughters, because they would probably be pretty. Trump’s sons are rather birdlike, because their mothers had delicate features. European women are pretty but they pass this on to their sons. Do you guys want to look like Neanderthals? Jeez.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @Feryl

    Leo definitely gained weight and with age his face has begun to wrinkle and sag. But I’m sorry, if it takes you decades to “fill out” then you’re not exactly the manliest guy. I figure that male actors really started to become more effeminate because actors are increasingly drawn from upper class (often British/Jewish) backgrounds that have been weeding out beefy manual laborer phenotypes for eons at this point. I’ve also noticed at my job that the under-45 set, when from an “educated” disposition, often looks positively malnourished. Seems like in decadent late stage America those of the upper class bent are avoiding manual labor throughout their lives and consequently look soft or have obvious “gym bodies”.With older generations of Americans body types weren’t so linked to social class, since back in the good old days there wasn’t such a huge divergence between the classes.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    @Feryl

    People under 45 look malnourished? Lol you must live in Colorado or San Francisco because 75 % of people in that category are overweight or obese in my location. Hell, I’m only in my early 30s and virtually all my former high school classmates have gained 30+ pounds in just 14 years. They look 10 years older than their age as a result. Don’t think there is a difference between social classes, especially for men. I’d say more wealthy and UMC women are thin than blue collar women, however.

    The only time I see significant numbers of thin people over 25 is at the airport or running road races.

    , @John Johnson
    @Feryl

    I’ve also noticed at my job that the under-45 set, when from an “educated” disposition, often looks positively malnourished. Seems like in decadent late stage America those of the upper class bent are avoiding manual labor throughout their lives and consequently look soft or have obvious “gym bodies

    Sure but what is with guys that do manual labor all day and are still fat? We have some guys next door that work for some wealthy transplant doing labor and they have huge guts. I don't get it. The only guys that I see consistently in shape are delivery men.

    My wife has talked about the gym body look. She says most women don't like it because it looks like the guy has been fluffing himself which is effeminate. Like is he trying to bulk up just to impress you.

    These guys need to ditch the gym and chop some wood.

    If I chop wood 2-3 times a week I bulk up pretty quickly.

    With older generations of Americans body types weren’t so linked to social class, since back in the good old days there wasn’t such a huge divergence between the classes.

    Desk jobs are really the problem. When I worked in an office I made sure to walk around at lunch. I wouldn't sit for one minute. Too many guys work a desk job and then go home to watch tv or play video games.

    A job where you are walking part of the time makes a huge difference.

    Replies: @Feryl

  250. @MEH 0910
    https://deadline.com/2022/01/january-6-insurrection-movie-billy-ray-adam-mckay-1234916344/

    https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1484240627890102282

    EXCLUSIVE: The January 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, considered the worst domestic attack on democracy since the Civil War, will be the subject of J6, a feature film scripted and to be directed by Billy Ray as his follow-up to the highly rated Showtime miniseries The Comey Rule. Joining him is Adam McKay, who is in the Oscar hunt now for Don’t Look Up. McKay will produce along with Todd Schulman, Josh McLaughlin, Cullen Hoback and Shane Salerno, latter of whom was exec producer on the Jeff Daniel-Brendan Gleeson starrer The Comey Rule.
     

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Feryl, @J.Ross, @Justvisiting, @MEH 0910

    This would be a great movie if they went into what was really going on, but of course it will just ram the narrative down the throats of the idiots who watch it. Is the plan to get it out before the mid-terms or will they wait till 2024?

  251. @MEH 0910
    https://deadline.com/2022/01/january-6-insurrection-movie-billy-ray-adam-mckay-1234916344/

    https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1484240627890102282

    EXCLUSIVE: The January 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, considered the worst domestic attack on democracy since the Civil War, will be the subject of J6, a feature film scripted and to be directed by Billy Ray as his follow-up to the highly rated Showtime miniseries The Comey Rule. Joining him is Adam McKay, who is in the Oscar hunt now for Don’t Look Up. McKay will produce along with Todd Schulman, Josh McLaughlin, Cullen Hoback and Shane Salerno, latter of whom was exec producer on the Jeff Daniel-Brendan Gleeson starrer The Comey Rule.
     

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Feryl, @J.Ross, @Justvisiting, @MEH 0910

    Wow, so you’re telling me that a Hollywood production is dominated by Jews and (non Scotch-Irish Protestant) Brits, with a Med begrudgingly accepted, but gentile Teutons and Slavs are totally absent? “We” shouldn’t spend our time or money to masochistically watch the non-stop degradation of our people by our eternal enemies. Get it, people? Anglo and Jew supremacists will continue to crush the barbarian white tribes, BAMN.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Feryl

    Yes, ye gentile Teuton/Slavic Men of Unz, unite! Form the great Teuton/Slav cabbage & potato eating army and expel the Anglo /Jewish corn beef eaters from Hollywood! Canter's Deli will be the first point of attack! From now on, all movies will star Schwarzenegger and Baranski!

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  252. @James J O'Meara
    @John Johnson

    DiCaprio has gotten more p*ssy than all the Men of Unz combined. Hence all the nitpicking and hate. It's not so much jealousy (although there's some of that) but that the existence of DiCaprio knocks into a cocked hat all their "evolutionary psychology" and "game" copes about "what women want."

    "What women want is not DiCaprio"
    Yet, DiCaprio.

    Right wing thought on many issues, in a nutshell. Christianity, Traditionalism, libertarianism, evolutionary psychology, game, whatever, there's always an brainy ideology to believe in, whatever stinky old reality seems to say.

    "More theology and geometry!" -- Ignatius Reilly

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Feryl, @Anon

    You do realize that Leo is a celebrity, right? Back in the 80’s even serial killers had groupies. Men in the entertainment industry, once reasonably famous, obviously will attract women. BFD. The entertainment industry has historically put up with immature, spoiled, and sociopathic jerks (hence all the me-too stuff concentrated in that industry, and guys like Weinstein and Louis CK having all the charm of a rusty machete). Making it big in that industry, who cares? “Jealous haters”? Nah, perfectly wholesome guys historically just like to pick on pretty boys who maybe, just maybe, can’t be relied on to sweat and bleed honestly. It really says something about how decadent we must be that a baby faced and nepotism blessed teen idol is supposed to be entitled to respect, because, why? Why should Joe Q Rube give a crap about decadent modern stage America and it’s openly lame, obnoxious, and talentless celebrities?

    • Replies: @Meretricious
    @Feryl

    nepotism? are you referencing his very talented father who is in another industry? DiCaprio made it the hard way--he came up through commercials and did outstanding work early in What's Eating Gilbert Grape

    , @J.Ross
    @Feryl

    Or, the book to read to truly understand women is De Bello Galicum.

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Feryl

    Back in the 80’s even serial killers had groupies.

    Forget killers, how about Danny Devito? Wife Rhea Perlman left him in 2012 because of his womanizing.


    Rhea Perlman tired of Danny DeVito's womanizing ways and the attention from other women heaped upon him since he began starring on the sleeper hit It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia.

    But even before the show became huge, the source gossips, Perlman and DeVito had had their share of discontent. The spy reports: “He may not appear to be a ladies’ man, but Danny certainly gets a lot of female attention ... Danny can be quite the flirt and because of his powerful status in Hollywood, he’s not ashamed to abuse his position and chat-up young, aspiring woman looking to make it in the industry."
     
    The couple has since reunited.
    , @John Johnson
    @Feryl

    It really says something about how decadent we must be that a baby faced and nepotism blessed teen idol is supposed to be entitled to respect, because, why? Why should Joe Q Rube give a crap about decadent modern stage America and it’s openly lame, obnoxious, and talentless celebrities?

    I wouldn't put too much thought into it. It's some weird celebrity brain thing that women do.

    Being baby faced isn't some express ticket to a woman's panties. You have to show something else like being athletic or on some career path.

  253. Anon[222] • Disclaimer says:
    @James J O'Meara
    @John Johnson

    DiCaprio has gotten more p*ssy than all the Men of Unz combined. Hence all the nitpicking and hate. It's not so much jealousy (although there's some of that) but that the existence of DiCaprio knocks into a cocked hat all their "evolutionary psychology" and "game" copes about "what women want."

    "What women want is not DiCaprio"
    Yet, DiCaprio.

    Right wing thought on many issues, in a nutshell. Christianity, Traditionalism, libertarianism, evolutionary psychology, game, whatever, there's always an brainy ideology to believe in, whatever stinky old reality seems to say.

    "More theology and geometry!" -- Ignatius Reilly

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Feryl, @Anon

    DiCaprio has gotten more p*ssy than all the Men of Unz combined. Hence all the nitpicking and hate. It’s not so much jealousy (although there’s some of that) but that the existence of DiCaprio knocks into a cocked hat all their “evolutionary psychology” and “game” copes about “what women want.”

    He’s a world famous actor and apparently has a fortune around \$300 million dollars. I’m pretty sure evolutionary psychology says that women are really attracted to extremely famous and wealthy men. And none of the Men of Unz nor “game” proponents would disagree.

    It’s also the case that he’s pretty schlubby looking now in his middle age and if he weren’t famous and wealthy wouldn’t be pulling young supermodels.

  254. @Feryl
    @James J O'Meara

    You do realize that Leo is a celebrity, right? Back in the 80's even serial killers had groupies. Men in the entertainment industry, once reasonably famous, obviously will attract women. BFD. The entertainment industry has historically put up with immature, spoiled, and sociopathic jerks (hence all the me-too stuff concentrated in that industry, and guys like Weinstein and Louis CK having all the charm of a rusty machete). Making it big in that industry, who cares? "Jealous haters"? Nah, perfectly wholesome guys historically just like to pick on pretty boys who maybe, just maybe, can't be relied on to sweat and bleed honestly. It really says something about how decadent we must be that a baby faced and nepotism blessed teen idol is supposed to be entitled to respect, because, why? Why should Joe Q Rube give a crap about decadent modern stage America and it's openly lame, obnoxious, and talentless celebrities?

    Replies: @Meretricious, @J.Ross, @Harry Baldwin, @John Johnson

    nepotism? are you referencing his very talented father who is in another industry? DiCaprio made it the hard way–he came up through commercials and did outstanding work early in What’s Eating Gilbert Grape

  255. @Feryl
    @James J O'Meara

    You do realize that Leo is a celebrity, right? Back in the 80's even serial killers had groupies. Men in the entertainment industry, once reasonably famous, obviously will attract women. BFD. The entertainment industry has historically put up with immature, spoiled, and sociopathic jerks (hence all the me-too stuff concentrated in that industry, and guys like Weinstein and Louis CK having all the charm of a rusty machete). Making it big in that industry, who cares? "Jealous haters"? Nah, perfectly wholesome guys historically just like to pick on pretty boys who maybe, just maybe, can't be relied on to sweat and bleed honestly. It really says something about how decadent we must be that a baby faced and nepotism blessed teen idol is supposed to be entitled to respect, because, why? Why should Joe Q Rube give a crap about decadent modern stage America and it's openly lame, obnoxious, and talentless celebrities?

    Replies: @Meretricious, @J.Ross, @Harry Baldwin, @John Johnson

    Or, the book to read to truly understand women is De Bello Galicum.

  256. @MEH 0910
    https://deadline.com/2022/01/january-6-insurrection-movie-billy-ray-adam-mckay-1234916344/

    https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1484240627890102282

    EXCLUSIVE: The January 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, considered the worst domestic attack on democracy since the Civil War, will be the subject of J6, a feature film scripted and to be directed by Billy Ray as his follow-up to the highly rated Showtime miniseries The Comey Rule. Joining him is Adam McKay, who is in the Oscar hunt now for Don’t Look Up. McKay will produce along with Todd Schulman, Josh McLaughlin, Cullen Hoback and Shane Salerno, latter of whom was exec producer on the Jeff Daniel-Brendan Gleeson starrer The Comey Rule.
     

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Feryl, @J.Ross, @Justvisiting, @MEH 0910

    >the Comey Rule
    I hadn’t even known this existed. Normally every flaming establishment garbage dump gets heavily shilled on 4chan (especially if it defames Trump), scenes and lines will be fake-viralled through twitter, plus the directors will get interviews on NPR and maybe wider advertising. I’ve never heard of this.

  257. @Anonymous
    @Nicholas Stix

    There's been a lot of movies I enjoyed post 1998. Just off the top of my head:

    Blackhawk Down
    City of God
    District 9
    Dredd
    End of Watch
    Eternal Sunshine of the Spotted Mind
    Grand Budapest Hotel, The
    Hurt Locker, The
    Inception
    Incredibles, The
    Inglorious Basterds (parts were silly, but Landau was amazing)
    Lost in Translation (having done a business trip to the Orient...)
    Lives of Others, The
    Minority Report
    Mud
    Predestination
    Primer
    Talented Mr. Ripley, The
    Unbreakable
    Zodiac

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @J.Ross, @John Johnson

    >includes Dredd
    >does not include the two part Indonesian brilliance it shamelessly ripped off
    You deserve the hammer.

  258. @Steve Sailer
    @Chrisnonymous

    DiCaprio is particularly boyish looking in a baby-fat way, whereas Brad Pitt and Keanu Reeves were boyish-looking in a slender way. So he got cast as younger characters than he actually was a lot when he was a juvenile actor (e.g., in "Gilbert Grape," he credibly played a 13 year old when he was 16), thus helping him get to his 10,000 hours of acting younger than almost anybody. E.g., he carried "Titanic" in his early 20s. So, he has had a pretty titanic career as a leading man over the last 25 years.

    But ... he's not Pitt or Reeves when it comes to his looks, and thus needs to be in shape.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Kronos, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Danindc, @SunBakedSuburb, @Abe, @Mr Mox

    DiCaprio is particularly boyish looking in a baby-fat way…

  259. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    This deserves a lot more study than it gets. It’s not entirely a matter of “eat less and exercise more.” My grandparents’ generation ate three solid meals a day and the only exercise anybody got was mowing the lawn or vacuuming the floors and obesity was so uncommon it was in the realm of the comedic.
     
    Your grandparents probably ate two of the meals together with family, and perhaps one with co-workers. How old do you think either of your grandparents were before they ate a meal which they acquired from a small window behind the wheel of an automobile (if ever)? My grandfather walked from Northeast Philadelphia to the railroad yards of South Philadelphia every morning for work. Then he walked all over the yard manually operating switches. I doubt that anyone does this anymore.

    There are probably endocrinological reasons having to do with plastics and pharmaceutical products finding their way into the food and water supplies, but Europeans should also have much of these stimuli and they're generally significantly slimmer than white Americans. What is striking now is how many young people in their prime years (when they would be most able to regulate their weights) are carrying loads of extra fat.

    My guess is that eschewing a culture of cuisine and communal dining as a daily ritual in favor of food as a consumer product and fuel that you acquire conveniently "on the go" so that you can get to do something else after the day at the cubicle farm ends has a deleterious effect on people's eating habits. This leads to overeating and choosing overly calorie dense options which are ubiquitous in the form of pre-prepared foods (i.e., fast food and packaged meals). Continentals seem to have held on to their cuisines and dining cultures much better than any nations caught in the gravity of the American Empire - even on week nights you'd expect a tiered meal with salads or soups and cheeses and to accompany the proteins and carbohydrates. There's definitely something to taking meals in courses with short breaks between while you're socializing that helps to moderate the volume of food consumed.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @LondonBob

    American food is full of sugar, and the portions are enormous compared to what we get in Europe. A lot of countries are now catching up to the US though, diabetes and obesity is exploding from Saudi to China.

    When I moved from London to Moscow I lost a stone without changing anything much within a couple of weeks and then kept the weight off, so the Russians aren’t processing their food the way we do in the West.

  260. @Mr. Anon
    @tyrone


    that Vice movie ,a partial shot surely ,on our new hallowed day jan. 6 the democrats lined up to shake Dick Cheney’s hand …..who ever thought he would be rehabilitated…….Trump derangement syndrome, scary powerful.
     
    The Democrats didn't hate Cheney for what he did. They hated him because it was him doing it instead of them.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Old Prude

    Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! Well said.

  261. @nebulafox
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Is anybody else struck by how much attractive and more photogenic and happier both men and women looked in old photos from the 1980s? It's really bizarre to look at that, as someone born later.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Peter D. Bredon, @Chrisnonymous, @Old Prude

    “Old photos from the 1980’s”. Ouch. FWIW, it is true I was much more attractive and photogenic and happier back the the “old” days.

  262. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Old Prude


    Let’s be honest: Denzel Washington is cast as Macbeth, not because he’s great for the role, but because he’s black, and this is 2022, where everything is staged to be humiliating and denigrating to white culture. Denzel as Macbeth is giving the finger to whitey.
     
    It would perhaps be interesting to cast Washington and other top flight black actors (and even to change the setting to, say, 1800s Mississippi or Haiti) if the entire entertainment industry wasn't dedicated to shoving a white hot poker into your eye at every turn and then demanding that you thank it for the honor.

    Washington is both a movie star and a very, very good actor. It's a shame that an attempt at Macbeth for him will be diminished by the other race nonsense.

    Replies: @Old Prude

    I agree changing the setting of Macbeth to make it relevant to a black cast would be an interesting project with a lot of potential.

  263. @Feryl
    @Red Pill Angel

    Leo definitely gained weight and with age his face has begun to wrinkle and sag. But I'm sorry, if it takes you decades to "fill out" then you're not exactly the manliest guy. I figure that male actors really started to become more effeminate because actors are increasingly drawn from upper class (often British/Jewish) backgrounds that have been weeding out beefy manual laborer phenotypes for eons at this point. I've also noticed at my job that the under-45 set, when from an "educated" disposition, often looks positively malnourished. Seems like in decadent late stage America those of the upper class bent are avoiding manual labor throughout their lives and consequently look soft or have obvious "gym bodies".With older generations of Americans body types weren't so linked to social class, since back in the good old days there wasn't such a huge divergence between the classes.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @John Johnson

    People under 45 look malnourished? Lol you must live in Colorado or San Francisco because 75 % of people in that category are overweight or obese in my location. Hell, I’m only in my early 30s and virtually all my former high school classmates have gained 30+ pounds in just 14 years. They look 10 years older than their age as a result. Don’t think there is a difference between social classes, especially for men. I’d say more wealthy and UMC women are thin than blue collar women, however.

    The only time I see significant numbers of thin people over 25 is at the airport or running road races.

  264. @James N. Kennett
    @YetAnotherAnon


    That is very odd, because in the 1970s, and indeed until police started investigating their crimes, no one was worried about the Wests, because no one had heard of them, and their modus operandi was to murder those who lived transient existences.
     
    Yes, the Guardian story is odd. The Wests operated within a 30 mile radius of Gloucester, far from Leeds and Sheffield, and like a lot of serial killers they were good at spotting people who would not be missed. A lot of girls refused lifts from the Wests, because they knew it was unwise to accept a lift from a stranger; and only when the story broke 15 years later did they realise how close they had come to death. They had not forgotten their casual encounter with the Wests because, as Theodore Dalrymple puts it in the City Journal article,

    Indeed, there was something distinctly odd about the murderer's appearance: he looked like an intermediate stage in the transformation of man into werewolf.
     

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    I’m tempted to wonder whether Sally J Morgan is being a tad creative with her story of refusing a lift from the Wests.

    “Her childhood was nomadic, following her father’s career in the motor trade across the UK. She studied painting in Sheffield and at the Royal Academy of Fine Arts in Antwerp. After graduating, life was a series of adventures and freelance projects. She was an archaeological digger, published cartoon strips, exhibited art, and lived from hand to mouth until she got a job as an art school lecturer. Later, she moved to New Zealand to teach at Massey University in Wellington. She lives in Berhampore with her wife, author and artist Jess Richards.”

    “Nomadic” is a pretty creative way of saying you moved houses as a child. I doubt her father erected his tent outside a different garage every week.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/a-small-grey-car-the-day-i-refused-a-lift-from-fred-and-rosemary-west-1.4404569

    She was born summer 51, so it’s possible. Rose West gave birth to a son in summer 1973.

    While hitchhiking at a traffic roundabout outside Gloucester in 1973, a small grey car pulled up and a nondescript pregnant woman and a curly-haired man offered me a lift, which I refused. They drove away without me, but I never forgot the encounter.

    I used to talk about it to my friends as my most unnerving hitching moment, and we would try to work out why it had unsettled me more than the lorry drivers who tried to grope me, or the guy who carried a gun in the boot, or the salesman who was out of his head on speed.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2021/mar/23/i-had-a-narrow-escape-from-fred-and-rosemary-west-the-sense-of-being-prey-haunts-me

    In my early 20s I narrowly missed getting into a car with the serial killers Fred and Rosemary West. I needed a lift. They stopped and offered me one. But when I looked into Fred West’s eyes, his eyes were full of cruelty. It was like a physical assault that propelled me away from the car.

  265. @Feryl
    @James J O'Meara

    You do realize that Leo is a celebrity, right? Back in the 80's even serial killers had groupies. Men in the entertainment industry, once reasonably famous, obviously will attract women. BFD. The entertainment industry has historically put up with immature, spoiled, and sociopathic jerks (hence all the me-too stuff concentrated in that industry, and guys like Weinstein and Louis CK having all the charm of a rusty machete). Making it big in that industry, who cares? "Jealous haters"? Nah, perfectly wholesome guys historically just like to pick on pretty boys who maybe, just maybe, can't be relied on to sweat and bleed honestly. It really says something about how decadent we must be that a baby faced and nepotism blessed teen idol is supposed to be entitled to respect, because, why? Why should Joe Q Rube give a crap about decadent modern stage America and it's openly lame, obnoxious, and talentless celebrities?

    Replies: @Meretricious, @J.Ross, @Harry Baldwin, @John Johnson

    Back in the 80’s even serial killers had groupies.

    Forget killers, how about Danny Devito? Wife Rhea Perlman left him in 2012 because of his womanizing.

    Rhea Perlman tired of Danny DeVito’s womanizing ways and the attention from other women heaped upon him since he began starring on the sleeper hit It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia.

    But even before the show became huge, the source gossips, Perlman and DeVito had had their share of discontent. The spy reports: “He may not appear to be a ladies’ man, but Danny certainly gets a lot of female attention … Danny can be quite the flirt and because of his powerful status in Hollywood, he’s not ashamed to abuse his position and chat-up young, aspiring woman looking to make it in the industry.”

    The couple has since reunited.

  266. @Feryl
    @MEH 0910

    Wow, so you're telling me that a Hollywood production is dominated by Jews and (non Scotch-Irish Protestant) Brits, with a Med begrudgingly accepted, but gentile Teutons and Slavs are totally absent? "We" shouldn't spend our time or money to masochistically watch the non-stop degradation of our people by our eternal enemies. Get it, people? Anglo and Jew supremacists will continue to crush the barbarian white tribes, BAMN.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Yes, ye gentile Teuton/Slavic Men of Unz, unite! Form the great Teuton/Slav cabbage & potato eating army and expel the Anglo /Jewish corn beef eaters from Hollywood! Canter’s Deli will be the first point of attack! From now on, all movies will star Schwarzenegger and Baranski!

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Jack D

    Actually, no. Woke is the new kosher in Hollywood.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10391261/Hollywood-barely-whisper-wokeness-kill-industry-PETER-KIEFER-PETER-SAVODNIK.html

  267. @Anonymous
    @Nicholas Stix

    There's been a lot of movies I enjoyed post 1998. Just off the top of my head:

    Blackhawk Down
    City of God
    District 9
    Dredd
    End of Watch
    Eternal Sunshine of the Spotted Mind
    Grand Budapest Hotel, The
    Hurt Locker, The
    Inception
    Incredibles, The
    Inglorious Basterds (parts were silly, but Landau was amazing)
    Lost in Translation (having done a business trip to the Orient...)
    Lives of Others, The
    Minority Report
    Mud
    Predestination
    Primer
    Talented Mr. Ripley, The
    Unbreakable
    Zodiac

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @J.Ross, @John Johnson

    I will add a few:

    Bourne Series
    There Will Be Blood
    No Country for Old Men
    Solo
    Cabin in the Woods
    Blue Ruin
    Blade Runner 2049
    Dune
    Mandy

  268. @R.G. Camara
    @Wilkey

    It's really "Does this man actually run his household, or is it his wife?"

    Replies: @Tracy

    More like “does this man inspire his kids to emulate him — and does he educate his kids, or does he leave it to schoolteachers and universities?” Most married females are on the conservative side.

  269. @Feryl
    @Red Pill Angel

    Leo definitely gained weight and with age his face has begun to wrinkle and sag. But I'm sorry, if it takes you decades to "fill out" then you're not exactly the manliest guy. I figure that male actors really started to become more effeminate because actors are increasingly drawn from upper class (often British/Jewish) backgrounds that have been weeding out beefy manual laborer phenotypes for eons at this point. I've also noticed at my job that the under-45 set, when from an "educated" disposition, often looks positively malnourished. Seems like in decadent late stage America those of the upper class bent are avoiding manual labor throughout their lives and consequently look soft or have obvious "gym bodies".With older generations of Americans body types weren't so linked to social class, since back in the good old days there wasn't such a huge divergence between the classes.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @John Johnson

    I’ve also noticed at my job that the under-45 set, when from an “educated” disposition, often looks positively malnourished. Seems like in decadent late stage America those of the upper class bent are avoiding manual labor throughout their lives and consequently look soft or have obvious “gym bodies

    Sure but what is with guys that do manual labor all day and are still fat? We have some guys next door that work for some wealthy transplant doing labor and they have huge guts. I don’t get it. The only guys that I see consistently in shape are delivery men.

    My wife has talked about the gym body look. She says most women don’t like it because it looks like the guy has been fluffing himself which is effeminate. Like is he trying to bulk up just to impress you.

    These guys need to ditch the gym and chop some wood.

    If I chop wood 2-3 times a week I bulk up pretty quickly.

    With older generations of Americans body types weren’t so linked to social class, since back in the good old days there wasn’t such a huge divergence between the classes.

    Desk jobs are really the problem. When I worked in an office I made sure to walk around at lunch. I wouldn’t sit for one minute. Too many guys work a desk job and then go home to watch tv or play video games.

    A job where you are walking part of the time makes a huge difference.

    • Replies: @Feryl
    @John Johnson

    Thank you for understanding what I'm getting at. I do think that most of the drop in testosterone levels over the last 40years are due to cable TV, video games, the internet etc. as well as greater acceptance of sloth. The good old days of body shaming people who "earned" obesity and weakness by said sloth are long past us by now.

    The gym bros are narcissists and mostly impress themselves... And other people into that stuff. Normies don't care or are actively repulsed by the PED abusers.

    I believe the studies/surveys show that woman prefer wiry athletic physiques the most. Too much bulk (fat or muscle) is inaesthetic and freakish.

  270. @Jack D
    @Feryl

    Yes, ye gentile Teuton/Slavic Men of Unz, unite! Form the great Teuton/Slav cabbage & potato eating army and expel the Anglo /Jewish corn beef eaters from Hollywood! Canter's Deli will be the first point of attack! From now on, all movies will star Schwarzenegger and Baranski!

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  271. Scorcese made a poor choice in using DiCaprio who is unwatchable for many years. Perhaps his last genuine and/or interesting performance was Catch Me If You Can, but even that is doubtful. Uninteresting, inauthentic.

    Of the other two Keanu is by far the standout. Acting so great that many are misled and believe he isn’t acting. Effortless and versatile. I will watch him in almost anything, but I have heard that Matcis 4 is a bomb. No fault of Keanu’s though.

    Bale is by far the most repulsive of the 3. I can’t bear to watch the guy. He oozes sleazy artificiality.

  272. @Feryl
    @James J O'Meara

    You do realize that Leo is a celebrity, right? Back in the 80's even serial killers had groupies. Men in the entertainment industry, once reasonably famous, obviously will attract women. BFD. The entertainment industry has historically put up with immature, spoiled, and sociopathic jerks (hence all the me-too stuff concentrated in that industry, and guys like Weinstein and Louis CK having all the charm of a rusty machete). Making it big in that industry, who cares? "Jealous haters"? Nah, perfectly wholesome guys historically just like to pick on pretty boys who maybe, just maybe, can't be relied on to sweat and bleed honestly. It really says something about how decadent we must be that a baby faced and nepotism blessed teen idol is supposed to be entitled to respect, because, why? Why should Joe Q Rube give a crap about decadent modern stage America and it's openly lame, obnoxious, and talentless celebrities?

    Replies: @Meretricious, @J.Ross, @Harry Baldwin, @John Johnson

    It really says something about how decadent we must be that a baby faced and nepotism blessed teen idol is supposed to be entitled to respect, because, why? Why should Joe Q Rube give a crap about decadent modern stage America and it’s openly lame, obnoxious, and talentless celebrities?

    I wouldn’t put too much thought into it. It’s some weird celebrity brain thing that women do.

    Being baby faced isn’t some express ticket to a woman’s panties. You have to show something else like being athletic or on some career path.

  273. @John Johnson
    @Feryl

    I’ve also noticed at my job that the under-45 set, when from an “educated” disposition, often looks positively malnourished. Seems like in decadent late stage America those of the upper class bent are avoiding manual labor throughout their lives and consequently look soft or have obvious “gym bodies

    Sure but what is with guys that do manual labor all day and are still fat? We have some guys next door that work for some wealthy transplant doing labor and they have huge guts. I don't get it. The only guys that I see consistently in shape are delivery men.

    My wife has talked about the gym body look. She says most women don't like it because it looks like the guy has been fluffing himself which is effeminate. Like is he trying to bulk up just to impress you.

    These guys need to ditch the gym and chop some wood.

    If I chop wood 2-3 times a week I bulk up pretty quickly.

    With older generations of Americans body types weren’t so linked to social class, since back in the good old days there wasn’t such a huge divergence between the classes.

    Desk jobs are really the problem. When I worked in an office I made sure to walk around at lunch. I wouldn't sit for one minute. Too many guys work a desk job and then go home to watch tv or play video games.

    A job where you are walking part of the time makes a huge difference.

    Replies: @Feryl

    Thank you for understanding what I’m getting at. I do think that most of the drop in testosterone levels over the last 40years are due to cable TV, video games, the internet etc. as well as greater acceptance of sloth. The good old days of body shaming people who “earned” obesity and weakness by said sloth are long past us by now.

    The gym bros are narcissists and mostly impress themselves… And other people into that stuff. Normies don’t care or are actively repulsed by the PED abusers.

    I believe the studies/surveys show that woman prefer wiry athletic physiques the most. Too much bulk (fat or muscle) is inaesthetic and freakish.

    • Agree: Red Pill Angel
  274. Denzel Washington is so miscast […] He rushed his lines — something you just do not do with Elizabethan language — and remained a complete cypher throughout the film.

    It’s intentional. Actors act up on the direction of the director. The ‘character’ is moulded during rehearsal and arrive ‘set’ on the set.

  275. @MEH 0910
    https://deadline.com/2022/01/january-6-insurrection-movie-billy-ray-adam-mckay-1234916344/

    https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1484240627890102282

    EXCLUSIVE: The January 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, considered the worst domestic attack on democracy since the Civil War, will be the subject of J6, a feature film scripted and to be directed by Billy Ray as his follow-up to the highly rated Showtime miniseries The Comey Rule. Joining him is Adam McKay, who is in the Oscar hunt now for Don’t Look Up. McKay will produce along with Todd Schulman, Josh McLaughlin, Cullen Hoback and Shane Salerno, latter of whom was exec producer on the Jeff Daniel-Brendan Gleeson starrer The Comey Rule.
     

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Feryl, @J.Ross, @Justvisiting, @MEH 0910

    The J6 movie promises to be the biggest pile of horse-dung since “Hidden Figures”.

    😉

  276. @Steve Sailer
    @Not Raul

    Haven't seen Joel Coen's Macbeth.

    It would be interesting to know whether the Coen Brothers finally taking a hiatus from each other had to do with Joel's wife Frances McDormand's diversity waiver speech at the Oscars? I pointed out the next day that the Coen Brothers' movies are both very good and very white.

    I've long admired how the Coen Brothers have managed to avoid splitting up due to sibling rivalry and how they have therefore been an inspiration to other pairs of brothers. But now they aren't working together on Joel's "Macbeth."

    I presume Joel feels that casting his wife opposite the greatest black leading man, Denzel, is a clever solution for his marital problem with his wife demanding diversity without giving in and casting an inept black actor. Will Denzel make a good Macbeth? Maybe, maybe not, but it's hard to say after Denzel's career that he doesn't deserve to try.

    On other other hand, if you are Ethan Coen, maybe your sister-in-law's diversity demands have gotten on your nerves?

    Replies: @Meretricious, @S Johnson, @James of Africa, @The Anti-Gnostic, @NorthOfTheOneOhOne, @R.G. Camara, @Mr. Anon, @Harry Baldwin, @keypusher, @Not Raul

    Will Denzel make a good Macbeth? Maybe, maybe not, but it’s hard to say after Denzel’s career that he doesn’t deserve to try.

    I saw the movie. Denzel is a fantastic Macbeth.

    I think that the brothers tend to put a lot of humor in their films. This one didn’t have much humor, so perhaps that’s why the other brother wasn’t interested.

  277. @MEH 0910
    @J.Ross

    Silent Running - Trailer
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p69lEMn0I8k


    As this science fiction classic opens, botanist Freeman Lowell (Bruce Dern) has spent eight years aboard the space freighter 'Valley Forge' preserving the only botanical specimens left from Earth under huge geodesic domes. When he receives orders to destroy the project and return home, Lowell rebels and hijacks the freighter, while plunging the craft into the gaseous Rings of Saturn. From that moment on, he has only the trees, the gardens and two 'Drone' robots, Huey and Dewey, to keep him company on his greatest adventure of all.
     
    Silent Running (1972) | Movie Scenes | Movieclips playlist:
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZbXA4lyCtqqUvy8jfr4rwmbImp3OHRUZ

    Replies: @J.Ross, @MEH 0910

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/douglas-trumbull-dead-2001-space-odyssey-1235089009/


    [MORE]

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/future-film-vfx-legend-douglas-729041/

  278. OT:
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/simpsons-itchy-scratchy-poochie-show-25-1235081217/

  279. @MEH 0910
    https://deadline.com/2022/01/january-6-insurrection-movie-billy-ray-adam-mckay-1234916344/

    https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1484240627890102282

    EXCLUSIVE: The January 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, considered the worst domestic attack on democracy since the Civil War, will be the subject of J6, a feature film scripted and to be directed by Billy Ray as his follow-up to the highly rated Showtime miniseries The Comey Rule. Joining him is Adam McKay, who is in the Oscar hunt now for Don’t Look Up. McKay will produce along with Todd Schulman, Josh McLaughlin, Cullen Hoback and Shane Salerno, latter of whom was exec producer on the Jeff Daniel-Brendan Gleeson starrer The Comey Rule.
     

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Feryl, @J.Ross, @Justvisiting, @MEH 0910

    https://deadline.com/2022/02/adam-mckay-on-dont-look-up-oscar-noms-bad-blood-the-uninhabitable-earth-1234928558/

    After watching his end-of-the-world satire Don’t Look Up notch four Oscar nominations this morning, in the categories of Best Picture, Original Screenplay, Original Score and Editing, writer-director Adam McKay spoke with Deadline about the film’s recognition and real-world impact, as well as upcoming projects ranging from the HBO series Winning Time: The Rise of the Lakers Dynasty, to his HBO Max series The Uninhabitable Earth and his Elizabeth Holmes film Bad Blood for Apple.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @MEH 0910

    I didn't dislike Adam McKay's "Don't Look Up," but that's because I have low standards in quasi-comedies. That it got a Best Picture nomination ...

  280. @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    https://deadline.com/2022/02/adam-mckay-on-dont-look-up-oscar-noms-bad-blood-the-uninhabitable-earth-1234928558/
    https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1491096704565022720


    After watching his end-of-the-world satire Don’t Look Up notch four Oscar nominations this morning, in the categories of Best Picture, Original Screenplay, Original Score and Editing, writer-director Adam McKay spoke with Deadline about the film’s recognition and real-world impact, as well as upcoming projects ranging from the HBO series Winning Time: The Rise of the Lakers Dynasty, to his HBO Max series The Uninhabitable Earth and his Elizabeth Holmes film Bad Blood for Apple.
     

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    I didn’t dislike Adam McKay’s “Don’t Look Up,” but that’s because I have low standards in quasi-comedies. That it got a Best Picture nomination …

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