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From the New York Times news section:

Doctors Debate Whether Trans Teens Need Therapy Before Hormones

Clinicians are divided over new guidelines that say teens should undergo mental health screenings before receiving hormones or gender surgeries.

By Azeen Ghorayshi
Jan. 13, 2022

An upsurge in teenagers requesting hormones or surgeries to better align their bodies with their gender identities has ignited a debate among doctors over when to provide these treatments.

An international group of experts focused on transgender health last month released a draft of new guidelines, the gold standard of the field that informs what insurers will reimburse for care.

Many doctors and activists praised the 350-page document, which was updated for the first time in nearly a decade, for including transgender people in its drafting and for removing language requiring adults to have psychological assessments before getting access to hormone therapy.

But the guidelines take a more cautious stance on teens. A new chapter dedicated to adolescents says that they must undergo mental health assessments and must have questioned their gender identity for “several years” before receiving drugs or surgeries.

Experts in transgender health are divided on these adolescent recommendations, reflecting a fraught debate over how to weigh conflicting risks for young people, who typically can’t give full legal consent until they are 18 and who may be in emotional distress or more vulnerable to peer influence than adults are.

Some of the drug regimens bring long-term risks, such as irreversible fertility loss.

“Irreversible fertility loss …”

Sure, sterilizing adolescents might seem a little harsh, but think about the Big Picture: if I don’t permanently destroy this child’s chance to have children, is the medical insurance company going to pay me enough for my trip to Marrakesh this year?

And in some cases, thought to be quite rare, transgender people later “detransition” to the gender they were assigned at birth. Given these risks, as well as the increasing number of adolescents seeking these treatments, some clinicians say that teens need more psychological assessment than adults do.

“They absolutely have to be treated differently,” said Laura Edwards-Leeper, a child clinical psychologist in Beaverton, Ore., who works with transgender adolescents.

Dr. Edwards-Leeper was one of seven authors of the new adolescent chapter, but the organization that publishes the guidelines, the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, did not authorize her to comment publicly on the draft’s proposed wording.

It’s almost as if the World Professional Association for Transgender Health has a vested financial interest in permanently sterilizing confused children.

On the other side of the debate are clinicians who say the guidelines are calling for unnecessary barriers to urgently needed care. Transgender teens have a high risk of attempting suicide, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. And preliminary studies have suggested that adolescents who receive drug treatments to affirm their gender identity have improved mental health and well-being.

You just said that “Transgender teens have a high risk of attempting suicide.” Indulging their mental illness in order to bill their medical insurance is evil.

Considering those data, some clinicians are opposed to any mental health requirements.

“I’m really not a believer in requiring that for people,” said Dr. Alex Keuroghlian, a clinical psychiatrist at Fenway Health in Boston and the director of the Massachusetts General Hospital Psychiatry Gender Identity Program. “Being trans isn’t a mental health problem,” he later added.

Yes, it is. It’s definitely more of a mental problem than of a physical problem that requires permanent sterilization.

The public is invited to comment on the guidelines until Sunday, with a final version expected by spring.

Here’s my public comment: Burn in hell, greedy doctors.

 
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  1. I’ve been saying for a few years now that trannys are the medical racket’s dream come true, from medical doctors to pharma to therapists.

    Imagine as a doctor, an individual who will require surgery, followed by a lifelong need for:

    hormone supplements
    pain medication
    psych medication
    physical therapy
    mental therapy

    Each tranny is a cash cow to these people. Of course they are going to promote the it. And doctors lost their credibility long before the tranny issue.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Mike Tre

    Not to mention ER visits from ass whoopins in the street by guys wearing MAGA caps.

    , @3g4me
    @Mike Tre

    @1 Mike Tre: An increasing number of doctors are from societies and cultures with no history of Christian tradition and morality. East Asians and sub-continentals put personal profit and familial ties before social bonds, let alone religious mores. Medical students are selected for memorization and conformity. Of course, all of this was begun by 'doctors' following in the footsteps of Magnus Hirschfeld, who also disdained Christian morality.

    Not only do they lack the intellectual curiosity to even look into alternative medical practices for the shamdemic, even those few who might realize federally-mandated treatment (Remdesivir and ventilators) cause death won't dare prescribe treatment that actually works because they might lose their sinecures. Famed and fictitious Hippocratic Oath? Meaningless to people for whom personal profit is the sole moral imperative.

    Diversity's brave new world needs to burn.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    , @Richard A.
    @Mike Tre

    Routine infant circumcision is also a cash cow for the medical profession.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    , @AnotherDad
    @Mike Tre

    And each tranny--certainly these mutilated as adolescents--will be a cash cow for lawyers as well.

    Suing---and thoroughly asset stripping--these evil bastards will be one of those rare cases where the lawyers actually do some good. If I was a young lawyer, I'd become an expert and go to guy in this area.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    , @Anthony Aaron
    @Mike Tre

    The reasons you mention are why the Pritzker family (of Illinois political fame) is so heavily behind this … having apparently invested quite heavily in the areas of the 'T-Bone' movement that will provide a sizable, long-term income stream for them.

    Such a nice family … kind of like the Maxwells and some others …

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    , @JimDandy
    @Mike Tre

    Every new thing that they can diagnose is the medical racket's latest dream come true.

  2. @Mike Tre
    I've been saying for a few years now that trannys are the medical racket's dream come true, from medical doctors to pharma to therapists.

    Imagine as a doctor, an individual who will require surgery, followed by a lifelong need for:

    hormone supplements
    pain medication
    psych medication
    physical therapy
    mental therapy


    Each tranny is a cash cow to these people. Of course they are going to promote the it. And doctors lost their credibility long before the tranny issue.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @3g4me, @Richard A., @AnotherDad, @Anthony Aaron, @JimDandy

    Not to mention ER visits from ass whoopins in the street by guys wearing MAGA caps.

  3. Thanks for the forthright tone here, Steve. Sterilizing and mutilating children is indeed evil, and it takes evil people to make it a poisonous reality in these kids’ already-sad lives.

    Luke 17:2-3: It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble. So watch yourselves.

    • Replies: @Dr. DoomNGloom
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Or ... go right to sterilization. Three generations of morons is enough.

    The best way to kill a stupid idea is to embrace it's obviously absurd conclusions.

    I tried it once with someone who argued about the Levit study correlating lack of access to abortion with crime from unwanted children and how that sticks it to those evil Republicans,

    I loved the shocked look when I replied, absolutely, "kill them early before they grow up to become criminals". My dry affect may have muted the intended irony and it really hit a nerve.

  4. You get the feeling that a lot of these kids have been left to their own devices for large amounts of time while growing up, and maybe this is a chance to get some attention (and sympathy).

    In my early teens, I dressed up in my Nan’s dresses; later on, I put on lipstick a couple of times. On all of these occasions, I was just acting the goose, trying to rile up my elders a little. At no point did gender come into it, and no-one suggested I mutilate my own genitals. I think everyone has gone crazy over this.

    • Replies: @Wyatt
    @Nodwink


    In my early teens, I dressed up in my Nan’s dresses; later on, I put on lipstick a couple of times. On all of these occasions, I was just acting the goose, trying to rile up my elders a little. At no point did gender come into it, and no-one suggested I mutilate my own genitals.
     
    Back in my day, that used to just be good ol' fashioned queer. You sir, sound a might poofta.

    Replies: @Nodwink

    , @Veteran Aryan
    @Nodwink


    no-one suggested I mutilate my own genitals.
     
    Did you not get my email?

    Replies: @Nodwink

  5. I’ve said it before, and will say it again – in the next 20 years the consensus on this is going to swing to the position that treating people with gender dysphoria with surgical mutilation and a cocktail of hormones is medically unethical, and there will be a wave of lawsuits from people who suffered at the hands of medical professionals. I am looking forward to it.

    • Agree: Alden, Dr. DoomNGloom
    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Arclight

    I'm always entertained (though not persuaded) by those who believe this is just a temporary insanity afflicting our society, and that the proverbial pendulum just has to swing back.

    Let me put it another way: we've canceled the wrong Foucault.

    , @3g4me
    @Arclight

    @3 Arclight: The fact that you truly believe everything will continue as is and there will still be standard medical lawsuits two decades from now demonstrates you have no clue as to what is going on.

    , @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    @Arclight

    "and there will be a wave of lawsuits from people who suffered at the hands of medical professionals"

    And as I've said here before, there will also be a wave of parenticide when these poor kids grow up.
    Can you imagine the sense of betrayal when you realize that your life has been ruined because your scumbag parent(s) thought it was more important to virtue-signal than to protect you at your most vulnerable? The justice meted out will be well deserved, and I imagine there will be more moms (especially single moms) than dads at the receiving end.

    , @Anonymous
    @Arclight

    I'm sure the consent forms these people have to sign contain clauses stating that no culpability attaches to the doctor if they later change their minds about the procedure.

    Replies: @Arclight, @ben tillman

    , @Ripple Earthdevil
    @Arclight

    If we actually get through this madness to some form of sane society, in twenty years everyone will look back at this the way everyone viewed lobotomy by the 1970's.

    , @Sick of Orcs
    @Arclight

    You're a supreme optimist to believe we're still going to gave a viable country in 20 years.

  6. Sterilization is the least of the crimes being visited upon these kids, frankly. Few would make decent parents anyway. But this wreck of an ex-nation can’t be put out of its misery soon enough.

    • Agree: BB753
  7. @Arclight
    I've said it before, and will say it again - in the next 20 years the consensus on this is going to swing to the position that treating people with gender dysphoria with surgical mutilation and a cocktail of hormones is medically unethical, and there will be a wave of lawsuits from people who suffered at the hands of medical professionals. I am looking forward to it.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @3g4me, @fredyetagain aka superhonky, @Anonymous, @Ripple Earthdevil, @Sick of Orcs

    I’m always entertained (though not persuaded) by those who believe this is just a temporary insanity afflicting our society, and that the proverbial pendulum just has to swing back.

    Let me put it another way: we’ve canceled the wrong Foucault.

  8. I’m not so much bothered by whack-job articles about “trans teens” (whatever that turns out to be sixteen months from now), I’m more disturbed by having to wake up in what was once my country, and having to read news articles written by something called “Azeen Ghorayshi” who is presuming that it has something of interest to say to me about the society it has invaded.

    • Agree: Hermes
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    She was born here and Iranians are generally not bad immigrants. She is a standard issue libtard who is no different than presumably many of the people descended from your invader ancestors.

  9. Dr. Alex Keuroghlian

    Dr. Keuroghlian wants “their” simolians.

    Selfish, adj. Devoid of consideration for the selfishness of others.” -Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914), [The Devil’s Dictionary, 1906]

    he later added.

    So self-selected pronouns aren’t “News That’s Fit to Print”?

    Alex Keuroghlian = Hoaxer unlike gal.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Reg Cæsar

    He's a piece of shyte, but he has a nice view of Fenway Park from his office!

    , @El Dato
    @Reg Cæsar

    The new Woody Allen!

    , @kaganovitch
    @Reg Cæsar

    From his bio at lgbtqiahealtheducation.org "Dr. Keuroghlian received their medical degree and Masters in Neurosciences from the Stanford University School of Medicine. The fox guarding the hen house per usual in our deeply disturbed age.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @SafeNow
    @Reg Cæsar

    “But never met this fellow,
    Attended or alone,
    Without a tighter breathing,
    And zero at the bone.”

    Emily Dickinson
    “The Snake”

    A good public comment on Dr. Keuroghlian and colleagues, Emily.

  10. An international group of experts focused on transgender health last month released a draft of new guidelines, the gold standard of the field that informs what insurers will reimburse for care.

    A perfect sample of NYT “journalism”, aka “mystery fiction”: “group of experts” — a mysterious, unnamed cohort with mysterious portfolios; “transgendered health” — a mysterious experience that only “experts” understand; “gold standard” — the “gold” part being, well, a mystery.

  11. Here’s my public comment: Burn in hell, greedy doctors.

    Another other side of iSteve … I agree.

    There’s slightly more to it than evil. Whatever kind of stupidity is in now, no matter how sick, is something that takes a little bit of courage to argue against. Here:

    Being trans isn’t a mental health problem,” he later added.

    He knows damn well in his heart that that’s a lie. He’s too cowardly to go against the wokeness.

    That’s still no reason he shouldn’t burn in hell though …

    • Agree: SafeNow
    • Replies: @ic1000
    @Achmed E. Newman

    > You just said that “Transgender teens have a high risk of attempting suicide.” Indulging their mental illness in order to bill their medical insurance is evil.

    > Here’s my public comment: Burn in hell, greedy doctors.

    If Sailer wasn't so insistent on obstructing the tween/teen trans train juggernaut, it would be easier for Timesman David Brooks to cut back on the plagiarism.

    Well, a little easier.

    Thanks, Steve.

  12. The monsters want to get their surgically trained paws on younger and younger patients because they can be made into more visually convincing simulacrums of the opposite sex. The casuistry they use now is to invert the sex swap – to claim that the patient’s body developing normally during puberty is actually an act of violence visited upon the patient because the patient is actually the opposite sex from the sex of the body. (It is inverted in the sense that the hormones and invasive surgeries are the real violence to the patient’s body).

    Part of what makes the whole thing so ridiculous, and motivates resistance from normies is that your average Joe Sixpack can see that this “woman” is patently a man in a dress with a husky voice and five o’clock shadow. Their natural good sense tells them that this person is engaged in some elaborate act of sexual exhibitionism and shouldn’t be left alone with dogs or children.

    I think they know that when they can put out trannies who while clothed are very difficult to distinguish from legacy women the public resistance to the socio-political movement will fade.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)


    I think they know that when they can put out trannies who while clothed are very difficult to distinguish from legacy women the public resistance to the socio-political movement will fade.
     
    This also feeds into the transhumanist/globocommie project of shutting down natural reproduction and family formation, especially among ostensibly straight white men.
  13. Burn in hell, greedy doctors.

    And for so many reasons.

  14. “World Professional Association for Transgender Health”

    (Finds Wikipedia article…)

    “formerly the Harry Benjamin International Gender Dysphoria Association”

    (Clicks over to Harry Benjamin’s Wikipedia page)

    “His mother was German and his father at least part-Jewish in ancestry.”

    THOSE DARN GERMANS!!

  15. Burn in hell, greedy doctors

    It may not be greed, Perhaps they are merely re-balancing supply and demand, so that they can source confused teen androgenoids closer to home and don’t need to go to Marrakesh.

    Jim Goad touched in passing on this topic. He noted that he’d been able to identify about 70 murders of those claiming to be trans-gender annually. From his calculation of the accepted prevalence in the population (mentioned by him and forgotten by me- all these numbers are my recollection and not to be trusted. I’m too idle to check.) and an overall culling of the American herd of 40,000 or so by homicide annually the Trans are at a 20% risk of murder compared to the sane.

    An interlocutor suggested that perhaps that was because the prime likely victims may have offed themselves before outside assistance was required. Next up was the observation that suicide attempts vastly outnumber successes and perhaps just as they liked pretending to be women, they liked pretending to be dead.
    Who knows?

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Bill Jones

    It’s common for men prostitutes pretending to be women to be beaten sometimes murdered when the customers discovers the woman is a man.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

  16. It’s like dogs and cats, it’s better for both them and you.

  17. An upsurge in teenagers requesting hormones or surgeries to better align their bodies with their gender identities has ignited a debate among doctors over when to provide these treatments.

    “their gender identities…”

    Talk about begging the question in the very first sentence. If one actually were to take this combination of fad, cult, and mass insanity seriously (something disallowed in advance by the “trans”-cult lynch mob’s rhetoric and actions), the whole point of the waiting period would be to establish that this alleged trans-gender identity actually had some stability and duration.

    And in some cases, thought to be quite rare, transgender people later “detransition” to the gender they were assigned at birth.

    “thought to be quite rare…”

    By whom? No one you can name, evidently. There’s the NYT taking its predilection for unnamed sources spewing vague innuendo to a new low.

    Here’s my public comment: Burn in hell, greedy doctors.

    While I try to refrain from expressing an opinion on who deserves to burn in hell, but try to leave that to God, I’m 100% certain that any doctor involved in the physical mutilation of children for the sake of this “trans”-lunacy should receive the death penalty.

  18. Broke: Parental love
    Woke: Trans rights
    Bespoke: Sterilize the mentally ill

    • Thanks: Thea
    • LOL: El Dato
  19. @Achmed E. Newman

    Here’s my public comment: Burn in hell, greedy doctors.
     
    Another other side of iSteve ... I agree.

    There's slightly more to it than evil. Whatever kind of stupidity is in now, no matter how sick, is something that takes a little bit of courage to argue against. Here:


    Being trans isn’t a mental health problem,” he later added.
     
    He knows damn well in his heart that that's a lie. He's too cowardly to go against the wokeness.

    That's still no reason he shouldn't burn in hell though ...

    Replies: @ic1000

    > You just said that “Transgender teens have a high risk of attempting suicide.” Indulging their mental illness in order to bill their medical insurance is evil.

    > Here’s my public comment: Burn in hell, greedy doctors.

    If Sailer wasn’t so insistent on obstructing the tween/teen trans train juggernaut, it would be easier for Timesman David Brooks to cut back on the plagiarism.

    Well, a little easier.

    Thanks, Steve.

    • Disagree: Corvinus
  20. It’s almost as if the World Professional Association for Transgender Health has a vested financial interest in permanently sterilizing confused children.

    Indeed. Imagine a girl who believes her nose is too big. Who is she going to consult? If she goes to see a plastic surgeon, the outcome is a foregone conclusion.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @James N. Kennett

    Never ask a barber if they think you need a haircut.

    , @ben tillman
    @James N. Kennett

    If she went to see Dr. Keuroghlian, he'd turn her into a probiscis monkey instead of changing the nose.

  21. I suspect that doctors who don’t agree with how these issues are being handled are the least likely to become trans teen specialists, whatever that’s called. Therefore they’re the least likely to be writing these guidelines in the first place. So there is a degree of ideological self-reinforcement happening in that part of the industry. And you’re obviously right to call out financial self-interest in all of this. Reminds me of the fortunes that were made prescribing “non-addictive” opioids.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  22. @The Last Real Calvinist
    Thanks for the forthright tone here, Steve. Sterilizing and mutilating children is indeed evil, and it takes evil people to make it a poisonous reality in these kids' already-sad lives.

    Luke 17:2-3: It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble. So watch yourselves.

    Replies: @Dr. DoomNGloom

    Or … go right to sterilization. Three generations of morons is enough.

    The best way to kill a stupid idea is to embrace it’s obviously absurd conclusions.

    I tried it once with someone who argued about the Levit study correlating lack of access to abortion with crime from unwanted children and how that sticks it to those evil Republicans,

    I loved the shocked look when I replied, absolutely, “kill them early before they grow up to become criminals”. My dry affect may have muted the intended irony and it really hit a nerve.

  23. Considering those data, some clinicians are opposed to any mental health requirements.

    “I’m really not a believer in requiring that for people,” said Dr. Alex Keuroghlian, a clinical psychiatrist at Fenway Health in Boston and the director of the Massachusetts General Hospital Psychiatry Gender Identity Program. “Being trans isn’t a mental health problem,” he later added.

    My trust in the medical profession has taken an unrecoverable hit over the past few years…

  24. The leadin read “Doctors Demand: First Do Some Harm”. I thought this was going to be a post about the “vaccine”.

    • Agree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • LOL: Old Prude
  25. Anon[310] • Disclaimer says:

    ““Irreversible fertility loss …”

    Sure, sterilizing adolescents might seem a little harsh, but think about the Big Picture: if I don’t permanently destroy this child’s chance to have children, is the medical insurance company going to pay me enough for my trip to Marrakesh this year?”

    Except the times gives no evidence of this loss: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1153424052712890368.html

    “You just said that “Transgender teens have a high risk of attempting suicide.” Indulging their mental illness in order to bill their medical insurance is evil.”

    Again context is missing on why they comitt suicide: https://kathrynhgordon.com/2018/05/14/fact-checking-5-suicide-related-statements-from-a-viral-ben-shapiro-video/

    “And in some cases, thought to be quite rare, transgender people later “detransition” to the gender they were assigned at birth.” Usually because of discrimination: https://fenwayhealth.org/new-study-shows-discrimination-stigma-and-family-pressure-drive-detransition-among-transgender-people/

    Go to hell Steve,you clearly don’t know the science.

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    @Anon

    Steve knows that what you linked to is a pack of garbage masquerading as science.

    , @Nicholas Stix
    @Anon

    "Go to hell Steve,you clearly don’t know the science."

    There is no science involved here, and this was one of the most powerful blog essays I've ever read from Steve out of tens of thousands, going back to spring, 2000.

    , @Alden
    @Anon

    Aha! Another occupation de transition surgeons therapists pills counselors and consultants. Similar to cars that need constant repairs.

  26. Wow, something finally got through the iSteve “bemused noticer” persona. Good to see.

    • LOL: Hermes
    • Replies: @vinteuil
    @Jimbo


    something finally got through the iSteve “bemused noticer” persona. Good to see.
     
    Indeed. Much as I love "bemused noticer" Steve Sailer, there comes a time for angry warrior Steve Sailer.

    And if this isn't the hill to die on, what ever could be?
  27. @Reg Cæsar

    Dr. Alex Keuroghlian
     
    Dr. Keuroghlian wants "their" simolians.


    "Selfish, adj. Devoid of consideration for the selfishness of others." -Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914), [The Devil's Dictionary, 1906]


    ...he later added.
     
    So self-selected pronouns aren't "News That's Fit to Print"?

    Alex Keuroghlian = Hoaxer unlike gal.


    https://hms.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/Harvard%20Medicine%20Magazine/Winter2020/06_HD_alexkeuroghlian.jpg

    Replies: @Brutusale, @El Dato, @kaganovitch, @SafeNow

    He’s a piece of shyte, but he has a nice view of Fenway Park from his office!

  28. As if the medical profession had not already lost a lot of credibility with the whole COVID freak-out……………….

    If doctors cave into this tranny-insanity, which they seem to be doing, it will destroy their credibility with a wide audience – those people who are not affiliated with the “lunacy-based community”.

    It’s becoming increasingly obvious that a lot of medicine is essentially a racket to sell drugs.

    My favorite are all the drugs now being touted to treat Tardive Dyskenesia (TD), a condition that practically nobody had ever even heard about a few years ago, because it’s a side effect of taking various “mental health” drugs.

    https://www.nami.org/blogs/nami-blog/september-2017/fda-approves-medications-for-tardive-dyskinesia

    What a business model – a drug to treat the symptoms caused by another drug that, itself, you may or may not really need. One of the ads I’ve seen for one of these TD drugs even states “It’s not known how (name of pharmaceutical) works, but it is thought to treat TD symptoms”. It’s thought to? Wow! Science!

  29. @Mike Tre
    I've been saying for a few years now that trannys are the medical racket's dream come true, from medical doctors to pharma to therapists.

    Imagine as a doctor, an individual who will require surgery, followed by a lifelong need for:

    hormone supplements
    pain medication
    psych medication
    physical therapy
    mental therapy


    Each tranny is a cash cow to these people. Of course they are going to promote the it. And doctors lost their credibility long before the tranny issue.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @3g4me, @Richard A., @AnotherDad, @Anthony Aaron, @JimDandy

    @1 Mike Tre: An increasing number of doctors are from societies and cultures with no history of Christian tradition and morality. East Asians and sub-continentals put personal profit and familial ties before social bonds, let alone religious mores. Medical students are selected for memorization and conformity. Of course, all of this was begun by ‘doctors’ following in the footsteps of Magnus Hirschfeld, who also disdained Christian morality.

    Not only do they lack the intellectual curiosity to even look into alternative medical practices for the shamdemic, even those few who might realize federally-mandated treatment (Remdesivir and ventilators) cause death won’t dare prescribe treatment that actually works because they might lose their sinecures. Famed and fictitious Hippocratic Oath? Meaningless to people for whom personal profit is the sole moral imperative.

    Diversity’s brave new world needs to burn.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @3g4me

    Doctors lost credibility as soon as they started mutilating the genitals of newborn boys.

  30. @Arclight
    I've said it before, and will say it again - in the next 20 years the consensus on this is going to swing to the position that treating people with gender dysphoria with surgical mutilation and a cocktail of hormones is medically unethical, and there will be a wave of lawsuits from people who suffered at the hands of medical professionals. I am looking forward to it.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @3g4me, @fredyetagain aka superhonky, @Anonymous, @Ripple Earthdevil, @Sick of Orcs

    @3 Arclight: The fact that you truly believe everything will continue as is and there will still be standard medical lawsuits two decades from now demonstrates you have no clue as to what is going on.

    • Agree: TomSchmidt
  31. @Mike Tre
    I've been saying for a few years now that trannys are the medical racket's dream come true, from medical doctors to pharma to therapists.

    Imagine as a doctor, an individual who will require surgery, followed by a lifelong need for:

    hormone supplements
    pain medication
    psych medication
    physical therapy
    mental therapy


    Each tranny is a cash cow to these people. Of course they are going to promote the it. And doctors lost their credibility long before the tranny issue.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @3g4me, @Richard A., @AnotherDad, @Anthony Aaron, @JimDandy

    Routine infant circumcision is also a cash cow for the medical profession.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Richard A.

    Agreed, I just made a reply to another commenter regarding that barbaric practice.

  32. @Reg Cæsar

    Dr. Alex Keuroghlian
     
    Dr. Keuroghlian wants "their" simolians.


    "Selfish, adj. Devoid of consideration for the selfishness of others." -Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914), [The Devil's Dictionary, 1906]


    ...he later added.
     
    So self-selected pronouns aren't "News That's Fit to Print"?

    Alex Keuroghlian = Hoaxer unlike gal.


    https://hms.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/Harvard%20Medicine%20Magazine/Winter2020/06_HD_alexkeuroghlian.jpg

    Replies: @Brutusale, @El Dato, @kaganovitch, @SafeNow

    The new Woody Allen!

  33. Teens and even young adults should have years of therapy prior to transitioning. For many kids there are issues of social contagion, peer pressure, sexual abuse, abandonment, etc. there more than long held deep desire.

    Let the adult men with fetishism pay for their own sex change. And remind the “non binary” women that we always had masculine women (about 10%), some of which went through life wearing men’s clothes because they didn’t fit in as a woman (though many of those likely had abuse issues).

    Post transition trans are really crazy with lots of ongoing mental illnesses. They still kill themselves at high rates, especially as they realize that transitioning didn’t make their mental health better.

  34. I’ve posted these before but a show on the Swedish national broadcaster, SVT, did a pair of documentaries examining this.

    At one point a Dutch doctor who helped to pioneer the ‘Dutch protocol’ (Administering of ‘puberty blockers’ which are drugs that were never designed or approved for this purpose while the child decides if they want to transition.) is interviewed and says that it’s perfectly fine since the ‘puberty blockers’ can be ended without any consequence. This is absolutely insane. You’ve disrupted their puberty, even a few months has huge consequences. The body doesn’t just store up ‘puberty’ while you’re on the ‘blockers’ and you get the puberty you lost when you stop them.

    In the UK there is one central clinic which deals with children expressing a desire to change sex. Here is a graph of their yearly new cases by ‘natal sex’ in recent years.

    Here is one which details crudely the age of the patients.
    https://www.transgendertrend.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Tavistock-childhood-referral-reversal.jpg

    The proportion that are adolescent hasn’t declined in the few years since the trans craze, it’s increased. Meaning you didn’t see a surge of cases who didn’t grow up in a period where this was more acceptable, a kind of backlog appearing as a big hump and then diminishing as we supposedly became more sophisticated and able to identity pre-adolescents. This is a disease (At least among girls) of adolescence often without the slightest hint of them having anything about them socially or physically out of step for their actual sex.

    ‘Trans’ is going to change it’s appearance very soon when these female cohorts come to dominate and displace the men.

    • Thanks: ic1000
    • Replies: @rebel yell
    @Altai

    Dutch doctors have been some of the biggest advocates of medical euthanasia. Now a Dutch doctor pioneered puberty blockers for teenagers. The Dutch seem to be on the cutting edge of bad ethics.

  35. Could a young man argue that, gender being a spectrum, he identifies as a much manlier man, and get physician prescribed and monitored steroids so he can transition to the 400lb bench presser he has always felt like inside?

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    @Erik L

    I can find no compelling argument against this from within the trans agenda.

    , @ben tillman
    @Erik L

    Or, more obviously, why aren't children who think they're the other sex given their own sex's hormones? About 101% of humans would think that's a better idea than giving them opposite sex hormones.

  36. I remember reading an opinion piece years ago that birth control pills wouldn’t be approved using current regulations. They want to say more powerful versions won’t have negative effects?

    • LOL: Alden
  37. @Mike Tre
    I've been saying for a few years now that trannys are the medical racket's dream come true, from medical doctors to pharma to therapists.

    Imagine as a doctor, an individual who will require surgery, followed by a lifelong need for:

    hormone supplements
    pain medication
    psych medication
    physical therapy
    mental therapy


    Each tranny is a cash cow to these people. Of course they are going to promote the it. And doctors lost their credibility long before the tranny issue.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @3g4me, @Richard A., @AnotherDad, @Anthony Aaron, @JimDandy

    And each tranny–certainly these mutilated as adolescents–will be a cash cow for lawyers as well.

    Suing—and thoroughly asset stripping–these evil bastards will be one of those rare cases where the lawyers actually do some good. If I was a young lawyer, I’d become an expert and go to guy in this area.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @AnotherDad

    Lmaoo do you really think you can successfully sue someone for letting you become a tranny? In this society you think that's possible?

    Delusional.

    Replies: @Ben tillman

  38. The vax is going to sterilize a lot of children as well.

  39. And in some cases, thought to be quite rare, transgender people later “detransition” to the gender they were assigned at birth.

    Note also the weasel wording which indicates how well these bastards know they’re skating on thin ice; “thought to be quite rare” thought by whom exactly? Should we perhaps make an attempt to verify this ‘hunch’ before we start slicing and dicing? Nah, let’s wing it.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @kaganovitch

    An entirely new surgical speciality has been created by the Drs Frankenstein. De transition surgery. Medicare and medi caid aka you and me pays for the endless gender change surgeries. It’s not just one surgery you know. It’s endless further procedures and repairs. And checkups. It’s not like having your appendix out or having a baby. It’s an endless series of Dr Frankenstein appointments.

    And then comes the de transition surgery. All paid by Medicare and medi caid the taxpayers.

    General Motors used to make buses including school buses. I believe GM contributed to Brown vs Topeka and all the school bussing law suits. As did the gas companies tire and replacement parts manufacturers, all those trade schools that teach vehicle mechanics bus and truck driving..

    Follow the money.

    Can’t even get a teeny little ear piercing till you’re 18 without mommy. Can’t take a plane by yourself unless your parents pay a big extra fee. Can’t take an Amtrak train by yourself till you’re 16. Signs at cash registers “ if you’re under 28 yrs old must show ID to purchase cigarettes “

    The transition industrial complex will soon try to get Child Protective Services to send kids to transition gender change group homes.

    Follow the money money money. And it will be Medi caid and medicare money from you and me.

  40. @Mike Tre
    I've been saying for a few years now that trannys are the medical racket's dream come true, from medical doctors to pharma to therapists.

    Imagine as a doctor, an individual who will require surgery, followed by a lifelong need for:

    hormone supplements
    pain medication
    psych medication
    physical therapy
    mental therapy


    Each tranny is a cash cow to these people. Of course they are going to promote the it. And doctors lost their credibility long before the tranny issue.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @3g4me, @Richard A., @AnotherDad, @Anthony Aaron, @JimDandy

    The reasons you mention are why the Pritzker family (of Illinois political fame) is so heavily behind this … having apparently invested quite heavily in the areas of the ‘T-Bone’ movement that will provide a sizable, long-term income stream for them.

    Such a nice family … kind of like the Maxwells and some others …

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Anthony Aaron

    I live in Illinois and am more familiar with Pritzker and his tranny cousin than I ever cared to be.

  41. My wife had to undergo six months of psych counseling and evaluation to have weight loss surgery. But sure, let’s mutilate teenagers without so much as a single psych evaluation.

  42. @Reg Cæsar

    Dr. Alex Keuroghlian
     
    Dr. Keuroghlian wants "their" simolians.


    "Selfish, adj. Devoid of consideration for the selfishness of others." -Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914), [The Devil's Dictionary, 1906]


    ...he later added.
     
    So self-selected pronouns aren't "News That's Fit to Print"?

    Alex Keuroghlian = Hoaxer unlike gal.


    https://hms.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/Harvard%20Medicine%20Magazine/Winter2020/06_HD_alexkeuroghlian.jpg

    Replies: @Brutusale, @El Dato, @kaganovitch, @SafeNow

    From his bio at lgbtqiahealtheducation.org “Dr. Keuroghlian received their medical degree and Masters in Neurosciences from the Stanford University School of Medicine. The fox guarding the hen house per usual in our deeply disturbed age.

    • Thanks: ben tillman, Hermes
    • Replies: @Alden
    @kaganovitch

    Stanford or why I never joined the alumni association or gave them a dime. They kept sending the begging letters to my parents house and my Mom kept giving them my address. Brother in law used to type a response to the fund raising letters. “ when you find me a job I’ll send you some money”

    4 years of soviet and negro worship. Now Stanford uses their research labs for this vile Frankenstein desecration. Plus severe discrimination against American White men who apply to the medical and nursing schools.

  43. Human psychology is a very interesting area of study.

    But the field draws lots of quacks. And psychological practice seems to draw a lot of vile, sleazy, and downright evil people–particularly the minoritarian wreckers ready to trash every norm that allowed Western Christian civilization to flourish.

  44. IIRC the Head of Johns Hopkins Hospital, refused to allow the hospital to perform trans surgery because it was mentally draining on his urologists and plastic surgeons. Removing healthy parts and repairing the damage caused.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Buffalo Joe


    IIRC the Head of Johns Hopkins Hospital, refused to allow the hospital to perform trans surgery because it was mentally draining on his urologists and plastic surgeons. Removing healthy parts and repairing the damage caused.
     
    They're literally cutting into healthy organs and bodies and re-routing them with the result of non-functioning parts, some of which require constant maintenance and irrigation in order that they not heal. All of this is in the vain attempt to align the body in the simulacrum of the opposite sex for the purported sake of mental health where a substantial fraction of post-operation patients regret the surgery forever negatively impacting their mental health.

    It appears that medicine is no longer a profession and is a pure billings enterprise, otherwise someone would stand up and demand an end to this.
    , @PennTothal
    @Buffalo Joe

    Dr. Paul Mchugh was the head of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins until the early aughts. He shut down the gender transition surgery program there for a while. The program has been revived with gusto since his retirement.

    He was the one who famously warned that psychiatrists who encourage sex-change operations for patients with gender dysphoria have become “accomplices to madness.”

  45. There is a TV show on cable called “I am Jazz.” Follows the adolescent life of a boy transitionong to female. First, I must note that the boy was born with undeveloping sex organs, internal and external. That has to be tough. Stopped watching after a few espisodes because it was sad. Surfing for something to watch and “I am Jazz” came on. The boy is now a girl and more than 100 pounds overweigh because food is comfort. Say what you want, but this is so sad. Do I have an anwser? Certainly not, I can’t even form a rational opinion. But, all of this is so front and center today that you can’t avoid it.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @Buffalo Joe

    As harsh as reality can be, unreality is even harsher.

    Do you think the real problem lies within the whole "follow your dream" nonsense? If you're following a dream, then you have to be ignoring the actual world.

    I know a 21 year old kid who's trying to be a hip musician/barista with tattoos and layer upon layer of cool. It's so pathetic I often have to look away. He's a lousy musician, the cafe job is supposed to only be a starter job, and his tattoos look like something between Harry Potter and a youth pastor. To my eyes this looks like a dreaming kid who will take another 10 years to grow up and realize he has accomplished nothing. He's not even close to the bottom of what plenty of his peers are doing.

    Perhaps I'm too judgmental and need to give the modern kids some patience. The world they're in is so screwed up.

    Replies: @ben tillman

  46. “Experts in transgender health are divided on these adolescent recommendations, reflecting a fraught debate over how to weigh conflicting risks for young people…”

    “Experts in transgender health…”

    No such birds exist.

    “a fraught debate”

    Fake news reporter Azeen Ghorayshi, his editors, the quacks and activists are using misdirection here. They are quashing any debate over mutilating minors, with or without “counseling.” And the counseling would be given by evil activists.

    A true “expert in transgender health…” would be, for example, a traveling executioner who would behead those found guilty of sexually mutilating people of any age, or drawing and quartering said convicts.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Nicholas Stix

    Fake news reporter Azeen Ghorayshi, his editors,


    Azeen is a she.

  47. Homones don’t “sterilize” people permanently. They can reduce endogamous hormone production to near castrate levels, but that effect reverses itself in a few days, weeks, or months (and can be nearly instantaneously reversed or avoided entirely with human chorionic gonadotropin).

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    @Anon

    It's the puberty blockers that can sterilize people permanently. They can leave the recipient with underdeveloped sex organs. As another poster mentions, much past the normal age of puberty you can't just "store" your puberty for later use.

    The famous young man Jazz Jennings, who has a delusion that he is female, experienced problems with his "bottom" surgery because there simply wasn't enough developed genital tissue for construction of the permanent wound that was created to replace it.

    The article never says hormones cause irrevsersible sterility. You're reading into it what wasn't there. It says:

    "Some of the drug regimens bring long-term risks, such as irreversible fertility loss."

    Replies: @Anon

  48. Based? Highly eugenic.

    Anyone stupid or gullible enough to take this nonsense seriously clearly doesn’t belong in the deep end of the gene pool. It’s irresponsible to do it in such a backhand way, but the results are what matter.

    Progressives are pro-eugenics, right? I mean, they keep pulling this stuff, and they said they were in the 30s, so…

  49. @Altai
    I've posted these before but a show on the Swedish national broadcaster, SVT, did a pair of documentaries examining this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epkp8pTO6l0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPNSWjjAzDk

    At one point a Dutch doctor who helped to pioneer the 'Dutch protocol' (Administering of 'puberty blockers' which are drugs that were never designed or approved for this purpose while the child decides if they want to transition.) is interviewed and says that it's perfectly fine since the 'puberty blockers' can be ended without any consequence. This is absolutely insane. You've disrupted their puberty, even a few months has huge consequences. The body doesn't just store up 'puberty' while you're on the 'blockers' and you get the puberty you lost when you stop them.

    In the UK there is one central clinic which deals with children expressing a desire to change sex. Here is a graph of their yearly new cases by 'natal sex' in recent years.

    https://i1.wp.com/www.transgendertrend.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/bar-graph-2.png

    Here is one which details crudely the age of the patients.

    https://4thwavenow.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/degraaf2.png
    https://www.transgendertrend.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Tavistock-childhood-referral-reversal.jpg

    The proportion that are adolescent hasn't declined in the few years since the trans craze, it's increased. Meaning you didn't see a surge of cases who didn't grow up in a period where this was more acceptable, a kind of backlog appearing as a big hump and then diminishing as we supposedly became more sophisticated and able to identity pre-adolescents. This is a disease (At least among girls) of adolescence often without the slightest hint of them having anything about them socially or physically out of step for their actual sex.

    'Trans' is going to change it's appearance very soon when these female cohorts come to dominate and displace the men.

    Replies: @rebel yell

    Dutch doctors have been some of the biggest advocates of medical euthanasia. Now a Dutch doctor pioneered puberty blockers for teenagers. The Dutch seem to be on the cutting edge of bad ethics.

  50. @Buffalo Joe
    IIRC the Head of Johns Hopkins Hospital, refused to allow the hospital to perform trans surgery because it was mentally draining on his urologists and plastic surgeons. Removing healthy parts and repairing the damage caused.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @PennTothal

    IIRC the Head of Johns Hopkins Hospital, refused to allow the hospital to perform trans surgery because it was mentally draining on his urologists and plastic surgeons. Removing healthy parts and repairing the damage caused.

    They’re literally cutting into healthy organs and bodies and re-routing them with the result of non-functioning parts, some of which require constant maintenance and irrigation in order that they not heal. All of this is in the vain attempt to align the body in the simulacrum of the opposite sex for the purported sake of mental health where a substantial fraction of post-operation patients regret the surgery forever negatively impacting their mental health.

    It appears that medicine is no longer a profession and is a pure billings enterprise, otherwise someone would stand up and demand an end to this.

  51. @AnotherDad
    @Mike Tre

    And each tranny--certainly these mutilated as adolescents--will be a cash cow for lawyers as well.

    Suing---and thoroughly asset stripping--these evil bastards will be one of those rare cases where the lawyers actually do some good. If I was a young lawyer, I'd become an expert and go to guy in this area.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Lmaoo do you really think you can successfully sue someone for letting you become a tranny? In this society you think that’s possible?

    Delusional.

    • Replies: @Ben tillman
    @AndrewR

    No, you could make a mint in Texas.

  52. Here’s my public comment: Burn in hell, greedy doctors.

    Totally agree Steve.

  53. @Arclight
    I've said it before, and will say it again - in the next 20 years the consensus on this is going to swing to the position that treating people with gender dysphoria with surgical mutilation and a cocktail of hormones is medically unethical, and there will be a wave of lawsuits from people who suffered at the hands of medical professionals. I am looking forward to it.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @3g4me, @fredyetagain aka superhonky, @Anonymous, @Ripple Earthdevil, @Sick of Orcs

    “and there will be a wave of lawsuits from people who suffered at the hands of medical professionals”

    And as I’ve said here before, there will also be a wave of parenticide when these poor kids grow up.
    Can you imagine the sense of betrayal when you realize that your life has been ruined because your scumbag parent(s) thought it was more important to virtue-signal than to protect you at your most vulnerable? The justice meted out will be well deserved, and I imagine there will be more moms (especially single moms) than dads at the receiving end.

  54. @Buffalo Joe
    There is a TV show on cable called "I am Jazz." Follows the adolescent life of a boy transitionong to female. First, I must note that the boy was born with undeveloping sex organs, internal and external. That has to be tough. Stopped watching after a few espisodes because it was sad. Surfing for something to watch and "I am Jazz" came on. The boy is now a girl and more than 100 pounds overweigh because food is comfort. Say what you want, but this is so sad. Do I have an anwser? Certainly not, I can't even form a rational opinion. But, all of this is so front and center today that you can't avoid it.

    Replies: @stillCARealist

    As harsh as reality can be, unreality is even harsher.

    Do you think the real problem lies within the whole “follow your dream” nonsense? If you’re following a dream, then you have to be ignoring the actual world.

    I know a 21 year old kid who’s trying to be a hip musician/barista with tattoos and layer upon layer of cool. It’s so pathetic I often have to look away. He’s a lousy musician, the cafe job is supposed to only be a starter job, and his tattoos look like something between Harry Potter and a youth pastor. To my eyes this looks like a dreaming kid who will take another 10 years to grow up and realize he has accomplished nothing. He’s not even close to the bottom of what plenty of his peers are doing.

    Perhaps I’m too judgmental and need to give the modern kids some patience. The world they’re in is so screwed up.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @stillCARealist


    Do you think the real problem lies within the whole “follow your dream” nonsense?
     
    The "trans" thing provides an "illusion of agency in reinvention" (hat tip to Marty Bent).
  55. anon[356] • Disclaimer says:

    Our schools’ sex ed curriculum is absolutely insidious on this. In the King County, WA sex ed curriculum for 8th to 12th graders, kids are asked to work on a “case” where a girl, who calls herself “lonely” and writes to a “Dear Abby” type advisor, saying she’s lonely because she can’t relate to the girls at her school who are just into makeup and boys, she prefers to read and exercise outdoors. The columnist says not to worry, people are all different and like different things, someday she will find a boy who likes her for who she is. The “Note to instructors” then instructs them to lead the kids to the conclusion that it is wrong for the advisor to assume the girl’s gender identity or sexual orientation, that she could be gay or trans. So our schools are basically preying on young girls who are insecure to begin with, telling them if they are lonely and can’t relate to the slutty girls they’re probably lesbian or trans. How sick is this? And then we wonder why 85% of transgenders are female to male. Our schools are doing this to our kids, not the internet!

    The curriculum also uses an example of two girls in a relationship together as an example for abusive behavior. It uses language like “Kristine doesn’t always feel like having sex with Emily but she does anyway…”

    It also tells kids that sex with HIV+ people are perfectly safe as long as you use a condom.

    I attended the parent information session on this curriculum, and they insisted everything was “science based”. When I emailed them asking for the material to review, they sent me a section that talks only about Abstinence. I had to jump through hoops to get a key to the full curriculum, and it’s absolutely sick. Then they claim parents can always opt their kids out. Few ever do because few parents care enough to even go through the trouble to review the curriculum.

    Parents in WA — opt your kids out of sex ed every year, it’s your duty!

    • Agree: Cloudbuster
    • Replies: @3g4me
    @anon

    @55 anon[356]: "Parents in WA — opt your kids out of sex ed every year, it’s your duty!"

    And, having realized what poison they are pushing in sex ed, you assume that every other subject must be fine, because . .. why? Standard Gell-Mann Amnesia, public school version.

    The correct response is "Parents who give a damn about their children: Home school. It's your God-given duty!"

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @anon


    ...saying she’s lonely because she can’t relate to the girls at her school who are just into makeup and boys, she prefers to read and exercise outdoors.
     
    What an utter crap scenario.

    There are plenty of young men out there who would be happy to spend time with a young woman that enjoyed reading a worthwhile book and spending time outdoors hiking, canoeing, grilling, picnicking, etc.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  56. I’m actually acquainted with several, smart young adults who are “in-transition”. Why can’t attention-seekers go back to benign exhibitions like swallowing goldfish and burning their bras? (Men can burn their draft registration cards.)

    That picture of the freaky, topless swimmer was truly disgusting. Abolish medical licensing laws. If a young woman wants to be butchered, allow her the dignity to decide whether to have the service performed at the meat department at Safeway.

    • Replies: @Ian Smith
    @Abolish_public_education

    So your shtick is to be the libertarian equivalent of Tiny Duck? 🥱

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education

  57. M2F teen trannies would have been very feminine gays. So no great fertility loss.

    The F2Ms are cluster B borderline personality disorder nutcases.

    Their unfortunate parents thus aren’t much losing out on happy grandchildren raised in stable loving nuclear families.

    Not to defend the doctors at all, just noting there’s a purifying selection upside to the species.

    • Agree: AndrewR, Kylie
    • Disagree: Cloudbuster
  58. @Buffalo Joe
    IIRC the Head of Johns Hopkins Hospital, refused to allow the hospital to perform trans surgery because it was mentally draining on his urologists and plastic surgeons. Removing healthy parts and repairing the damage caused.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @PennTothal

    Dr. Paul Mchugh was the head of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins until the early aughts. He shut down the gender transition surgery program there for a while. The program has been revived with gusto since his retirement.

    He was the one who famously warned that psychiatrists who encourage sex-change operations for patients with gender dysphoria have become “accomplices to madness.”

  59. An international group of experts focused on transgender health last month released a draft of new guidelines, the gold standard of the field that informs what insurers will reimburse for care.

    I thought that “gold standard” meant an accurate test, but not according to Wikipedia. It often means whatever diagnostic test is best accepted, whether it is accurate or not.

  60. @kaganovitch
    @Reg Cæsar

    From his bio at lgbtqiahealtheducation.org "Dr. Keuroghlian received their medical degree and Masters in Neurosciences from the Stanford University School of Medicine. The fox guarding the hen house per usual in our deeply disturbed age.

    Replies: @Alden

    Stanford or why I never joined the alumni association or gave them a dime. They kept sending the begging letters to my parents house and my Mom kept giving them my address. Brother in law used to type a response to the fund raising letters. “ when you find me a job I’ll send you some money”

    4 years of soviet and negro worship. Now Stanford uses their research labs for this vile Frankenstein desecration. Plus severe discrimination against American White men who apply to the medical and nursing schools.

  61. Thankfully, someone in the Jolie-Pitt family decided to let Shiloh’s awkward adolescent fancy for dressing like a boy work itself out on its own.

    • Agree: Daniel H
    • Replies: @3g4me
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    @61 the Anti-Gnostic: You truly think Shiloh's 'boyish' phase was her own idea? Her mother was dressing her in blue and green unisex outfits and deliberately denigrating her looks from infancy, embarrassed to have given birth to a blonde, blue-eyed White-skinned girl. Instead, she gushed about how 'feminine' her adopted sub-Saharan daughter was.

    Maybe Shiloh's was saved by her 'parents' being too busy with their divorce drama to ensure she was butchered. No such luck for the former daughter of Warren Beatty and Annette Bening, whose natural sexuality and identity has been destroyed.

    Replies: @Alden, @The Anti-Gnostic

  62. Would any other medical procedures, not needed to preserve or make for normal life, be permitted on children like this?

    The premise about all of this seems to be that very young children, through early adulthood, can somehow “know” how they are supposed to feel, look, act, and think as young adults and later.

    Does “science” prove that “transgenderism” is the one and only (non born physically) trait that is an exception?

    This isn’t some wart removal or correction of some unnatural defect (say, a sixth finger) that is causing you a problem. This should be obvious.

    Instead this barbaric mentality involving sexual identification is elevated to a status no other medical treatment is permitted to have.

    Also, in this account, the usual blurry or nonexistent line between “transexualism” and “transvestitism” is used. There are those who sometimes dress as the opposite sex or emulate that behavior. Normally only for short time periods. Many of these people have normal sexual behavior in accordance with their born gender. Or are homosexual but do not want to “change” genders.

    That is rare but not extremely rare.

    “Transexualism” including surgery (only possible in the last 60 years) is very rare. Yet by blurring or mixing the discussion between these two different things, horrible decisions can be made for very young people which only compounds inherent problems living in an abnormal fashion.

    This crazy notion is anti-science and is akin to letting children have real firearms because they are fascinated by loud noises and making holes in things. Absence of long term thinking is a common youthful characteristic.

    If children can’t legally get permanent tattoos, they shouldn’t be allowed to alter their born genitalia.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @Muggles

    > This crazy notion is anti-science and is akin to letting children have real firearms because they are fascinated by loud noises and making holes in things.

    Or consider kids fantasizing about being a dog, cat, or dinosaur. Or a walrus.

    Matt Walsh has written the children's book Johnny The Walrus. Amazingly, it's still available on amazon.

    The most recent review (5 stars):


    Recently, the child in my life has started identifying as a walrus and uses wal/walru/walrus pronouns. It’s been impossible to find something that captures the lived experiences wal endures each day, but this book has done it. Wal has found another walrus identifying person (WIP) in Johnny, which really helps raise awareness of this growing, yet marginalized, community. Thank you, Daddy, for this impressive work.
     
  63. @Arclight
    I've said it before, and will say it again - in the next 20 years the consensus on this is going to swing to the position that treating people with gender dysphoria with surgical mutilation and a cocktail of hormones is medically unethical, and there will be a wave of lawsuits from people who suffered at the hands of medical professionals. I am looking forward to it.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @3g4me, @fredyetagain aka superhonky, @Anonymous, @Ripple Earthdevil, @Sick of Orcs

    I’m sure the consent forms these people have to sign contain clauses stating that no culpability attaches to the doctor if they later change their minds about the procedure.

    • Replies: @Arclight
    @Anonymous

    Probably, but never underestimate the inventiveness of the legal profession and courts in getting the outcome they want.

    , @ben tillman
    @Anonymous


    I’m sure the consent forms these people have to sign contain clauses stating that no culpability attaches to the doctor if they later change their minds about the procedure.
     
    But why would they be effective? Children can't consent, and any putative consent would not be "informed".

    Replies: @AceDeuce

  64. @Muggles
    Would any other medical procedures, not needed to preserve or make for normal life, be permitted on children like this?

    The premise about all of this seems to be that very young children, through early adulthood, can somehow "know" how they are supposed to feel, look, act, and think as young adults and later.

    Does "science" prove that "transgenderism" is the one and only (non born physically) trait that is an exception?

    This isn't some wart removal or correction of some unnatural defect (say, a sixth finger) that is causing you a problem. This should be obvious.

    Instead this barbaric mentality involving sexual identification is elevated to a status no other medical treatment is permitted to have.

    Also, in this account, the usual blurry or nonexistent line between "transexualism" and "transvestitism" is used. There are those who sometimes dress as the opposite sex or emulate that behavior. Normally only for short time periods. Many of these people have normal sexual behavior in accordance with their born gender. Or are homosexual but do not want to "change" genders.

    That is rare but not extremely rare.

    "Transexualism" including surgery (only possible in the last 60 years) is very rare. Yet by blurring or mixing the discussion between these two different things, horrible decisions can be made for very young people which only compounds inherent problems living in an abnormal fashion.

    This crazy notion is anti-science and is akin to letting children have real firearms because they are fascinated by loud noises and making holes in things. Absence of long term thinking is a common youthful characteristic.

    If children can't legally get permanent tattoos, they shouldn't be allowed to alter their born genitalia.

    Replies: @ic1000

    > This crazy notion is anti-science and is akin to letting children have real firearms because they are fascinated by loud noises and making holes in things.

    Or consider kids fantasizing about being a dog, cat, or dinosaur. Or a walrus.

    Matt Walsh has written the children’s book Johnny The Walrus. Amazingly, it’s still available on amazon.

    The most recent review (5 stars):

    Recently, the child in my life has started identifying as a walrus and uses wal/walru/walrus pronouns. It’s been impossible to find something that captures the lived experiences wal endures each day, but this book has done it. Wal has found another walrus identifying person (WIP) in Johnny, which really helps raise awareness of this growing, yet marginalized, community. Thank you, Daddy, for this impressive work.

    • LOL: El Dato
  65. Here’s my public comment: Burn in hell, greedy doctors.

    …..that’s the spirit!……more bloody mindedness please.

  66. @kaganovitch
    And in some cases, thought to be quite rare, transgender people later “detransition” to the gender they were assigned at birth.

    Note also the weasel wording which indicates how well these bastards know they're skating on thin ice; "thought to be quite rare" thought by whom exactly? Should we perhaps make an attempt to verify this 'hunch' before we start slicing and dicing? Nah, let's wing it.

    Replies: @Alden

    An entirely new surgical speciality has been created by the Drs Frankenstein. De transition surgery. Medicare and medi caid aka you and me pays for the endless gender change surgeries. It’s not just one surgery you know. It’s endless further procedures and repairs. And checkups. It’s not like having your appendix out or having a baby. It’s an endless series of Dr Frankenstein appointments.

    And then comes the de transition surgery. All paid by Medicare and medi caid the taxpayers.

    General Motors used to make buses including school buses. I believe GM contributed to Brown vs Topeka and all the school bussing law suits. As did the gas companies tire and replacement parts manufacturers, all those trade schools that teach vehicle mechanics bus and truck driving..

    Follow the money.

    Can’t even get a teeny little ear piercing till you’re 18 without mommy. Can’t take a plane by yourself unless your parents pay a big extra fee. Can’t take an Amtrak train by yourself till you’re 16. Signs at cash registers “ if you’re under 28 yrs old must show ID to purchase cigarettes “

    The transition industrial complex will soon try to get Child Protective Services to send kids to transition gender change group homes.

    Follow the money money money. And it will be Medi caid and medicare money from you and me.

  67. Barbaric – let‘s call this perverse fad for what it is

  68. @Anon
    "“Irreversible fertility loss …”

    Sure, sterilizing adolescents might seem a little harsh, but think about the Big Picture: if I don’t permanently destroy this child’s chance to have children, is the medical insurance company going to pay me enough for my trip to Marrakesh this year?"

    Except the times gives no evidence of this loss: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1153424052712890368.html

    "You just said that “Transgender teens have a high risk of attempting suicide.” Indulging their mental illness in order to bill their medical insurance is evil."

    Again context is missing on why they comitt suicide: https://kathrynhgordon.com/2018/05/14/fact-checking-5-suicide-related-statements-from-a-viral-ben-shapiro-video/

    "And in some cases, thought to be quite rare, transgender people later “detransition” to the gender they were assigned at birth." Usually because of discrimination: https://fenwayhealth.org/new-study-shows-discrimination-stigma-and-family-pressure-drive-detransition-among-transgender-people/

    Go to hell Steve,you clearly don't know the science.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Nicholas Stix, @Alden

    Steve knows that what you linked to is a pack of garbage masquerading as science.

  69. @Erik L
    Could a young man argue that, gender being a spectrum, he identifies as a much manlier man, and get physician prescribed and monitored steroids so he can transition to the 400lb bench presser he has always felt like inside?

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @ben tillman

    I can find no compelling argument against this from within the trans agenda.

  70. @Anthony Aaron
    @Mike Tre

    The reasons you mention are why the Pritzker family (of Illinois political fame) is so heavily behind this … having apparently invested quite heavily in the areas of the 'T-Bone' movement that will provide a sizable, long-term income stream for them.

    Such a nice family … kind of like the Maxwells and some others …

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    I live in Illinois and am more familiar with Pritzker and his tranny cousin than I ever cared to be.

  71. @3g4me
    @Mike Tre

    @1 Mike Tre: An increasing number of doctors are from societies and cultures with no history of Christian tradition and morality. East Asians and sub-continentals put personal profit and familial ties before social bonds, let alone religious mores. Medical students are selected for memorization and conformity. Of course, all of this was begun by 'doctors' following in the footsteps of Magnus Hirschfeld, who also disdained Christian morality.

    Not only do they lack the intellectual curiosity to even look into alternative medical practices for the shamdemic, even those few who might realize federally-mandated treatment (Remdesivir and ventilators) cause death won't dare prescribe treatment that actually works because they might lose their sinecures. Famed and fictitious Hippocratic Oath? Meaningless to people for whom personal profit is the sole moral imperative.

    Diversity's brave new world needs to burn.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    Doctors lost credibility as soon as they started mutilating the genitals of newborn boys.

  72. @Richard A.
    @Mike Tre

    Routine infant circumcision is also a cash cow for the medical profession.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    Agreed, I just made a reply to another commenter regarding that barbaric practice.

  73. @Anon
    Homones don't "sterilize" people permanently. They can reduce endogamous hormone production to near castrate levels, but that effect reverses itself in a few days, weeks, or months (and can be nearly instantaneously reversed or avoided entirely with human chorionic gonadotropin).

    Replies: @Cloudbuster

    It’s the puberty blockers that can sterilize people permanently. They can leave the recipient with underdeveloped sex organs. As another poster mentions, much past the normal age of puberty you can’t just “store” your puberty for later use.

    The famous young man Jazz Jennings, who has a delusion that he is female, experienced problems with his “bottom” surgery because there simply wasn’t enough developed genital tissue for construction of the permanent wound that was created to replace it.

    The article never says hormones cause irrevsersible sterility. You’re reading into it what wasn’t there. It says:

    “Some of the drug regimens bring long-term risks, such as irreversible fertility loss.”

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Cloudbuster

    Earth to dummy, it's literally in the intro to the article:


    Clinicians are divided over new guidelines that say teens should undergo mental health screenings before receiving hormones or gender surgeries.
     
    Jazz Jennings may have been born with an abnormally small penis.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster

  74. At least if they are sterilized they won’t breed any more of them/they /zi/zer/ei ei o…

  75. This is a good time for me to reiterate the point about “sissy hypno.” It goes beyond victimizing the currently confused and into actively trying to subvert people with madness. It makes the jump from dealer to pusher. I have no idea who or what is behind it, but there’s obviously some serious money being put into it. Can all of this be just to sell a few addadictomies and some pills? I’m not buying it. There’s more going on here, and I smell malicious intent.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  76. Indulging their mental illness in order to bill their medical insurance is evil.

    Burn in hell, greedy doctors.

    I appreciate Steve’s typical calm, rational demeanor, yet it’s refreshing to see him let loose a bit here and call a spade a spade.

  77. Mengele was, at least, a true believer in crap.

  78. @anon
    Our schools' sex ed curriculum is absolutely insidious on this. In the King County, WA sex ed curriculum for 8th to 12th graders, kids are asked to work on a "case" where a girl, who calls herself "lonely" and writes to a "Dear Abby" type advisor, saying she's lonely because she can't relate to the girls at her school who are just into makeup and boys, she prefers to read and exercise outdoors. The columnist says not to worry, people are all different and like different things, someday she will find a boy who likes her for who she is. The "Note to instructors" then instructs them to lead the kids to the conclusion that it is wrong for the advisor to assume the girl's gender identity or sexual orientation, that she could be gay or trans. So our schools are basically preying on young girls who are insecure to begin with, telling them if they are lonely and can't relate to the slutty girls they're probably lesbian or trans. How sick is this? And then we wonder why 85% of transgenders are female to male. Our schools are doing this to our kids, not the internet!

    The curriculum also uses an example of two girls in a relationship together as an example for abusive behavior. It uses language like "Kristine doesn't always feel like having sex with Emily but she does anyway..."

    It also tells kids that sex with HIV+ people are perfectly safe as long as you use a condom.

    I attended the parent information session on this curriculum, and they insisted everything was "science based". When I emailed them asking for the material to review, they sent me a section that talks only about Abstinence. I had to jump through hoops to get a key to the full curriculum, and it's absolutely sick. Then they claim parents can always opt their kids out. Few ever do because few parents care enough to even go through the trouble to review the curriculum.

    Parents in WA -- opt your kids out of sex ed every year, it's your duty!

    Replies: @3g4me, @The Wild Geese Howard

    @55 anon[356]: “Parents in WA — opt your kids out of sex ed every year, it’s your duty!”

    And, having realized what poison they are pushing in sex ed, you assume that every other subject must be fine, because . .. why? Standard Gell-Mann Amnesia, public school version.

    The correct response is “Parents who give a damn about their children: Home school. It’s your God-given duty!”

  79. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    I'm not so much bothered by whack-job articles about "trans teens" (whatever that turns out to be sixteen months from now), I'm more disturbed by having to wake up in what was once my country, and having to read news articles written by something called "Azeen Ghorayshi" who is presuming that it has something of interest to say to me about the society it has invaded.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    She was born here and Iranians are generally not bad immigrants. She is a standard issue libtard who is no different than presumably many of the people descended from your invader ancestors.

  80. @The Anti-Gnostic
    Thankfully, someone in the Jolie-Pitt family decided to let Shiloh's awkward adolescent fancy for dressing like a boy work itself out on its own.

    https://i.imgur.com/eDalYFm.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/raBZz8r.jpg

    Replies: @3g4me

    @61 the Anti-Gnostic: You truly think Shiloh’s ‘boyish’ phase was her own idea? Her mother was dressing her in blue and green unisex outfits and deliberately denigrating her looks from infancy, embarrassed to have given birth to a blonde, blue-eyed White-skinned girl. Instead, she gushed about how ‘feminine’ her adopted sub-Saharan daughter was.

    Maybe Shiloh’s was saved by her ‘parents’ being too busy with their divorce drama to ensure she was butchered. No such luck for the former daughter of Warren Beatty and Annette Bening, whose natural sexuality and identity has been destroyed.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @3g4me

    I remember the supermarket tabloid covers when Shiloh was a baby and toddler. It’s a standard rule of genetics that girls resemble fathers and paternal grandmother. And Shiloh was a gorgeous little girl. Those were the days when we food shopped twice a week. So I saw all the tabloid covers.,

    Angelina Jolie has a very ugly face but many men watch her movies because they find her sexually attractive. Shiloh like her father and paternal grandmother was a beautiful child and is now very pretty.

    I always thought that Angelina Jolie cut that gorgeous blond hair to a crew cut and dressed Shiloh like a boy because by the time Shiloh was 8 the trans thing was the next coming thing. And liberals and progressives dislike pretty clothes and pretty women. I remember the tabloid covers always had the White kids in back and the non White ones featured.

    You guys don’t read Vogue and Harper’s. The big thing nowadays is black models with an inch of frizz on their bald heads and the ugliest possible faces the photographers can find.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mike Tre, @3g4me, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Corvinus

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @3g4me

    What horrible people.

  81. @Arclight
    I've said it before, and will say it again - in the next 20 years the consensus on this is going to swing to the position that treating people with gender dysphoria with surgical mutilation and a cocktail of hormones is medically unethical, and there will be a wave of lawsuits from people who suffered at the hands of medical professionals. I am looking forward to it.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @3g4me, @fredyetagain aka superhonky, @Anonymous, @Ripple Earthdevil, @Sick of Orcs

    If we actually get through this madness to some form of sane society, in twenty years everyone will look back at this the way everyone viewed lobotomy by the 1970’s.

  82. @Anonymous
    @Arclight

    I'm sure the consent forms these people have to sign contain clauses stating that no culpability attaches to the doctor if they later change their minds about the procedure.

    Replies: @Arclight, @ben tillman

    Probably, but never underestimate the inventiveness of the legal profession and courts in getting the outcome they want.

  83. Here’s my public comment: Burn in hell, greedy doctors.

    Well, SS – all is forgiven. That was worth this year’s contribution.

  84. On the other hand, crazy people don’t usually make good parents.

  85. Here’s my public comment: Burn in hell, greedy doctors.

    Depending on how things accelerant, they may not have to wait for ‘afterlife’ hell…

    [MORE]

  86. @James N. Kennett

    It’s almost as if the World Professional Association for Transgender Health has a vested financial interest in permanently sterilizing confused children.
     
    Indeed. Imagine a girl who believes her nose is too big. Who is she going to consult? If she goes to see a plastic surgeon, the outcome is a foregone conclusion.

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @ben tillman

    Never ask a barber if they think you need a haircut.

  87. @Anon
    "“Irreversible fertility loss …”

    Sure, sterilizing adolescents might seem a little harsh, but think about the Big Picture: if I don’t permanently destroy this child’s chance to have children, is the medical insurance company going to pay me enough for my trip to Marrakesh this year?"

    Except the times gives no evidence of this loss: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1153424052712890368.html

    "You just said that “Transgender teens have a high risk of attempting suicide.” Indulging their mental illness in order to bill their medical insurance is evil."

    Again context is missing on why they comitt suicide: https://kathrynhgordon.com/2018/05/14/fact-checking-5-suicide-related-statements-from-a-viral-ben-shapiro-video/

    "And in some cases, thought to be quite rare, transgender people later “detransition” to the gender they were assigned at birth." Usually because of discrimination: https://fenwayhealth.org/new-study-shows-discrimination-stigma-and-family-pressure-drive-detransition-among-transgender-people/

    Go to hell Steve,you clearly don't know the science.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Nicholas Stix, @Alden

    “Go to hell Steve,you clearly don’t know the science.”

    There is no science involved here, and this was one of the most powerful blog essays I’ve ever read from Steve out of tens of thousands, going back to spring, 2000.

  88. @Jimbo
    Wow, something finally got through the iSteve "bemused noticer" persona. Good to see.

    Replies: @vinteuil

    something finally got through the iSteve “bemused noticer” persona. Good to see.

    Indeed. Much as I love “bemused noticer” Steve Sailer, there comes a time for angry warrior Steve Sailer.

    And if this isn’t the hill to die on, what ever could be?

  89. “Experts in transgender health are divided on these adolescent recommendations, reflecting a fraught debate over how to weigh conflicting risks for young people…”

    “Experts in transgender health…”

    No such birds exist.

    “a fraught debate”

    Fake news reporter Azeen Ghorayshi, her editors, the quacks and activists are using misdirection here. They are quashing any debate over mutilating minors, with or without “counseling.” And the counseling would be given by evil activists.

    A true “expert in transgender health…” would be, for example, a traveling executioner who would behead those found guilty of sexually mutilating people of any age, or drawing and quartering said convicts.

  90. @Reg Cæsar

    Dr. Alex Keuroghlian
     
    Dr. Keuroghlian wants "their" simolians.


    "Selfish, adj. Devoid of consideration for the selfishness of others." -Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914), [The Devil's Dictionary, 1906]


    ...he later added.
     
    So self-selected pronouns aren't "News That's Fit to Print"?

    Alex Keuroghlian = Hoaxer unlike gal.


    https://hms.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/Harvard%20Medicine%20Magazine/Winter2020/06_HD_alexkeuroghlian.jpg

    Replies: @Brutusale, @El Dato, @kaganovitch, @SafeNow

    “But never met this fellow,
    Attended or alone,
    Without a tighter breathing,
    And zero at the bone.”

    Emily Dickinson
    “The Snake”

    A good public comment on Dr. Keuroghlian and colleagues, Emily.

  91. @Bill Jones

    Burn in hell, greedy doctors
     
    It may not be greed, Perhaps they are merely re-balancing supply and demand, so that they can source confused teen androgenoids closer to home and don't need to go to Marrakesh.

    Jim Goad touched in passing on this topic. He noted that he'd been able to identify about 70 murders of those claiming to be trans-gender annually. From his calculation of the accepted prevalence in the population (mentioned by him and forgotten by me- all these numbers are my recollection and not to be trusted. I'm too idle to check.) and an overall culling of the American herd of 40,000 or so by homicide annually the Trans are at a 20% risk of murder compared to the sane.

    An interlocutor suggested that perhaps that was because the prime likely victims may have offed themselves before outside assistance was required. Next up was the observation that suicide attempts vastly outnumber successes and perhaps just as they liked pretending to be women, they liked pretending to be dead.
    Who knows?

    Replies: @Alden

    It’s common for men prostitutes pretending to be women to be beaten sometimes murdered when the customers discovers the woman is a man.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @Alden


    The suspended Virginia Tech linebacker who allegedly beat a male Tinder date to death after mistaking him for a woman was indicted on second-degree murder charges.
     
    https://nypost.com/2021/10/27/virginia-tech-linebacker-isimemen-etute-indicted-for-catfishing-murder/

    Replies: @Alden

  92. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    The monsters want to get their surgically trained paws on younger and younger patients because they can be made into more visually convincing simulacrums of the opposite sex. The casuistry they use now is to invert the sex swap - to claim that the patient's body developing normally during puberty is actually an act of violence visited upon the patient because the patient is actually the opposite sex from the sex of the body. (It is inverted in the sense that the hormones and invasive surgeries are the real violence to the patient's body).

    Part of what makes the whole thing so ridiculous, and motivates resistance from normies is that your average Joe Sixpack can see that this "woman" is patently a man in a dress with a husky voice and five o'clock shadow. Their natural good sense tells them that this person is engaged in some elaborate act of sexual exhibitionism and shouldn't be left alone with dogs or children.

    I think they know that when they can put out trannies who while clothed are very difficult to distinguish from legacy women the public resistance to the socio-political movement will fade.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    I think they know that when they can put out trannies who while clothed are very difficult to distinguish from legacy women the public resistance to the socio-political movement will fade.

    This also feeds into the transhumanist/globocommie project of shutting down natural reproduction and family formation, especially among ostensibly straight white men.

  93. @anon
    Our schools' sex ed curriculum is absolutely insidious on this. In the King County, WA sex ed curriculum for 8th to 12th graders, kids are asked to work on a "case" where a girl, who calls herself "lonely" and writes to a "Dear Abby" type advisor, saying she's lonely because she can't relate to the girls at her school who are just into makeup and boys, she prefers to read and exercise outdoors. The columnist says not to worry, people are all different and like different things, someday she will find a boy who likes her for who she is. The "Note to instructors" then instructs them to lead the kids to the conclusion that it is wrong for the advisor to assume the girl's gender identity or sexual orientation, that she could be gay or trans. So our schools are basically preying on young girls who are insecure to begin with, telling them if they are lonely and can't relate to the slutty girls they're probably lesbian or trans. How sick is this? And then we wonder why 85% of transgenders are female to male. Our schools are doing this to our kids, not the internet!

    The curriculum also uses an example of two girls in a relationship together as an example for abusive behavior. It uses language like "Kristine doesn't always feel like having sex with Emily but she does anyway..."

    It also tells kids that sex with HIV+ people are perfectly safe as long as you use a condom.

    I attended the parent information session on this curriculum, and they insisted everything was "science based". When I emailed them asking for the material to review, they sent me a section that talks only about Abstinence. I had to jump through hoops to get a key to the full curriculum, and it's absolutely sick. Then they claim parents can always opt their kids out. Few ever do because few parents care enough to even go through the trouble to review the curriculum.

    Parents in WA -- opt your kids out of sex ed every year, it's your duty!

    Replies: @3g4me, @The Wild Geese Howard

    …saying she’s lonely because she can’t relate to the girls at her school who are just into makeup and boys, she prefers to read and exercise outdoors.

    What an utter crap scenario.

    There are plenty of young men out there who would be happy to spend time with a young woman that enjoyed reading a worthwhile book and spending time outdoors hiking, canoeing, grilling, picnicking, etc.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @The Wild Geese Howard


    There are plenty of young men out there who would be happy to spend time with a young woman that enjoyed reading a worthwhile book and spending time outdoors hiking, canoeing, grilling, picnicking, etc.
     
    My brother-in-law was introduced to his future wife by a mutual acquaintance who knew they both loved to go fishing. That worked out well. I don't know if she got to attend the wedding. She died of a brain aneurysm in the presence of her second-grade son.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

  94. @3g4me
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    @61 the Anti-Gnostic: You truly think Shiloh's 'boyish' phase was her own idea? Her mother was dressing her in blue and green unisex outfits and deliberately denigrating her looks from infancy, embarrassed to have given birth to a blonde, blue-eyed White-skinned girl. Instead, she gushed about how 'feminine' her adopted sub-Saharan daughter was.

    Maybe Shiloh's was saved by her 'parents' being too busy with their divorce drama to ensure she was butchered. No such luck for the former daughter of Warren Beatty and Annette Bening, whose natural sexuality and identity has been destroyed.

    Replies: @Alden, @The Anti-Gnostic

    I remember the supermarket tabloid covers when Shiloh was a baby and toddler. It’s a standard rule of genetics that girls resemble fathers and paternal grandmother. And Shiloh was a gorgeous little girl. Those were the days when we food shopped twice a week. So I saw all the tabloid covers.,

    Angelina Jolie has a very ugly face but many men watch her movies because they find her sexually attractive. Shiloh like her father and paternal grandmother was a beautiful child and is now very pretty.

    I always thought that Angelina Jolie cut that gorgeous blond hair to a crew cut and dressed Shiloh like a boy because by the time Shiloh was 8 the trans thing was the next coming thing. And liberals and progressives dislike pretty clothes and pretty women. I remember the tabloid covers always had the White kids in back and the non White ones featured.

    You guys don’t read Vogue and Harper’s. The big thing nowadays is black models with an inch of frizz on their bald heads and the ugliest possible faces the photographers can find.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Alden


    You guys don’t read Vogue and Harper’s.
     
    You must mean Harper's Bazaar, though we don't read Harper's either.

    The big thing nowadays is black models with an inch of frizz on their bald heads and the ugliest possible faces the photographers can find.

     

    A band group called Harpers Bizarre had a hit in the '60s with the Porter tune "Anything Goes". How fitting, now.
    , @Mike Tre
    @Alden

    "I always thought that Angelina Jolie cut that gorgeous blond hair to a crew cut and dressed Shiloh like a boy because"

    ...she was already envious of her daughter's beauty and sought to diminish it?

    Replies: @Alden

    , @3g4me
    @Alden

    @94 Alden: I, too, recall all the tabloid covers while waiting in line at the grocery store - those covers were the basis of my comment - I distinctly recall wondering why she dressed such a pretty little infant/toddler in drab, unisex outfits. And you are correct - adopted non-White kids always in front in photos. Apparently there was some significant friction between Jolie and Pitt's parents when Shiloh was young - no way to know but wouldn't be surprised if it was because Jolie was grooming Shiloh to be trans.

    Difficult enough to grow up among the sexual deviants and narcissists in Hollywood. But to be the daughter of a purported sex symbol who grows ever more plastic (like all the photos featuring Jolie's decolletage after she had both breasts removed because of cancer risk) must be miserable.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Alden

    Sick world with sick people.

    , @Corvinus
    @Alden

    Spoken like an old scold.

    Replies: @Alden

  95. @Arclight
    I've said it before, and will say it again - in the next 20 years the consensus on this is going to swing to the position that treating people with gender dysphoria with surgical mutilation and a cocktail of hormones is medically unethical, and there will be a wave of lawsuits from people who suffered at the hands of medical professionals. I am looking forward to it.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @3g4me, @fredyetagain aka superhonky, @Anonymous, @Ripple Earthdevil, @Sick of Orcs

    You’re a supreme optimist to believe we’re still going to gave a viable country in 20 years.

  96. @The Wild Geese Howard
    @anon


    ...saying she’s lonely because she can’t relate to the girls at her school who are just into makeup and boys, she prefers to read and exercise outdoors.
     
    What an utter crap scenario.

    There are plenty of young men out there who would be happy to spend time with a young woman that enjoyed reading a worthwhile book and spending time outdoors hiking, canoeing, grilling, picnicking, etc.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    There are plenty of young men out there who would be happy to spend time with a young woman that enjoyed reading a worthwhile book and spending time outdoors hiking, canoeing, grilling, picnicking, etc.

    My brother-in-law was introduced to his future wife by a mutual acquaintance who knew they both loved to go fishing. That worked out well. I don’t know if she got to attend the wedding. She died of a brain aneurysm in the presence of her second-grade son.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Reg Cæsar


    She died of a brain aneurysm in the presence of her second-grade son.
     
    Christ, here I was thinking I was a wet blanket.
  97. @Alden
    @3g4me

    I remember the supermarket tabloid covers when Shiloh was a baby and toddler. It’s a standard rule of genetics that girls resemble fathers and paternal grandmother. And Shiloh was a gorgeous little girl. Those were the days when we food shopped twice a week. So I saw all the tabloid covers.,

    Angelina Jolie has a very ugly face but many men watch her movies because they find her sexually attractive. Shiloh like her father and paternal grandmother was a beautiful child and is now very pretty.

    I always thought that Angelina Jolie cut that gorgeous blond hair to a crew cut and dressed Shiloh like a boy because by the time Shiloh was 8 the trans thing was the next coming thing. And liberals and progressives dislike pretty clothes and pretty women. I remember the tabloid covers always had the White kids in back and the non White ones featured.

    You guys don’t read Vogue and Harper’s. The big thing nowadays is black models with an inch of frizz on their bald heads and the ugliest possible faces the photographers can find.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mike Tre, @3g4me, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Corvinus

    You guys don’t read Vogue and Harper’s.

    You must mean Harper’s Bazaar, though we don’t read Harper’s either.

    The big thing nowadays is black models with an inch of frizz on their bald heads and the ugliest possible faces the photographers can find.

    A band group called Harpers Bizarre had a hit in the ’60s with the Porter tune “Anything Goes”. How fitting, now.

  98. And in some cases, thought to be quite rare, transgender people later “detransition” to the gender they were assigned at birth.

    Crazy. Like how there were few “former hippies” in 1951?

  99. @Nodwink
    You get the feeling that a lot of these kids have been left to their own devices for large amounts of time while growing up, and maybe this is a chance to get some attention (and sympathy).

    In my early teens, I dressed up in my Nan's dresses; later on, I put on lipstick a couple of times. On all of these occasions, I was just acting the goose, trying to rile up my elders a little. At no point did gender come into it, and no-one suggested I mutilate my own genitals. I think everyone has gone crazy over this.

    Replies: @Wyatt, @Veteran Aryan

    In my early teens, I dressed up in my Nan’s dresses; later on, I put on lipstick a couple of times. On all of these occasions, I was just acting the goose, trying to rile up my elders a little. At no point did gender come into it, and no-one suggested I mutilate my own genitals.

    Back in my day, that used to just be good ol’ fashioned queer. You sir, sound a might poofta.

    • Replies: @Nodwink
    @Wyatt

    So this goon can say this to me, but my sharp (and witty) reply gets junked? RIGGED COMMENTS SECTION!

  100. Counseling teenagers who want to “change genders” is super-important. Remember being a teenager, how you were an idiot but thought you knew a lot? There are probably a lot of trans kids who are victims of a parent’s Munchausen by proxy.

    For one thing, girls who want to become men need to know that they cannot do that. They can become transmen. If the natal girl is gynophilic, she needs to know that more lesbians want to date other lesbians than there are straight women who want to date transmen. For natal boys who want to become transwomen, they need to know that in addition to a much-restricted dating pool, dating for transwomen is dangerous. Tolerance for gay people is much easier than for trans people. Gay men mostly want to have sex with other gay men. For transwomen who are attracted to men, men they date will often (usually?) feel “tricked” into sex they do not want to have.

    Both natal girls and boys who want to transition need expectation management. Responsible cosmetic surgeons refer patients to counseling. For one thing, most men make very unattractive women. Girls who transition will be short, weak men. Dating will be difficult. Employment may also be harder for trans people than for somewhat non-gender-conforming cis people.

    [MORE]

    You know all those kids and teens who think along the lines of, “why do people have their own kids when there are many kids who need to be adopted?” The vast majority of those kids become adults who do not adopt. “Trans” teenagers need to know that, given current tech, they cannot skip cis puberty, have “bottom” gender confirmation surgery, and have their own children. Will scientists figure out how to create ova from XY cells? Probably. Turning XX karyotype cells into sperm cells? Maybe? I can think of a few ways that might work. The procedure will be very expensive. On the other hand, if they do go through cis puberty, sex cells can be frozen. Though they may run into the problem of having partners who inconveniently have the same kind of gametes. Awkward?

    But how to get the kids into counseling that does not try to railroad them into surgery? I could see the counseling being hardcore religious or proggy railroading. Maybe the kids need to see both sorts?

    There are kids, mostly girls, I think who have precocious puberty. Like really young. Maybe 5-6 years old. They give them puberty blockers of the same sort they give to “trans” kids. When precocious puberty kids stop taking the drugs at maybe 11 or 12, I am pretty sure they go through normal puberty. But it also stands to reason that delaying puberty until 18 is a very different beast. For one thing, can you imagine looking like a nine-year-old senior year of high school or freshman year of college? Whether you chose cis or trans puberty, you will really not fit in with your peer group. For another thing, is a kid who has had puberty blocked until 18 have anything like normal brain function? There’s a good chance they have a nine-year-old’s mind. Are they really “adults” who can decide to transition?

    What’s the Baumeister or Bailey-style theory for little boys who want to transition? They are pretty much too young to have autogynephilia, right? Were their brains just not masculinized early? Would male puberty change that?

    I’d like to bang the GWAS drum here. It’d be cool to have genetic info on “trans” teens, adults who transition, and ones who de-transition. Genetically, are trans teenagers like trans adults? What about de-transitioners, are they genetically distinct? If the same alleles are common in adult trans people and teens, then that would imply that the “trans phenotype” is stable. If they can predict who is likely to de-transition, those kids can be spared a ton of pain by not starting on that road.

    • Replies: @Occasional lurker
    @Rob

    Very good comment.

  101. @AndrewR
    @AnotherDad

    Lmaoo do you really think you can successfully sue someone for letting you become a tranny? In this society you think that's possible?

    Delusional.

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    No, you could make a mint in Texas.

  102. And in some cases, thought to be quite rare, transgender people later “detransition” to the gender they were assigned at birth.

    “Thought to be quite rare” is doing a hell of a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. I wonder if anybody got any of these doctors on tape saying something like that.

    My wife went through six major and two minor surgical procedures in 2021 alone. I would seriously question the intelligence or competence of any doctor — or for that matter, any journalist — who could be so flippant about such a serious medical intervention.

    This stuff is going to be a goldmine, an absolute goldmine for trial lawyers about a decade or so from now. If I built yachts for a living, I’d probably factor this into my long-term business plan.

  103. @Reg Cæsar
    @The Wild Geese Howard


    There are plenty of young men out there who would be happy to spend time with a young woman that enjoyed reading a worthwhile book and spending time outdoors hiking, canoeing, grilling, picnicking, etc.
     
    My brother-in-law was introduced to his future wife by a mutual acquaintance who knew they both loved to go fishing. That worked out well. I don't know if she got to attend the wedding. She died of a brain aneurysm in the presence of her second-grade son.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    She died of a brain aneurysm in the presence of her second-grade son.

    Christ, here I was thinking I was a wet blanket.

  104. @Mike Tre
    I've been saying for a few years now that trannys are the medical racket's dream come true, from medical doctors to pharma to therapists.

    Imagine as a doctor, an individual who will require surgery, followed by a lifelong need for:

    hormone supplements
    pain medication
    psych medication
    physical therapy
    mental therapy


    Each tranny is a cash cow to these people. Of course they are going to promote the it. And doctors lost their credibility long before the tranny issue.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @3g4me, @Richard A., @AnotherDad, @Anthony Aaron, @JimDandy

    Every new thing that they can diagnose is the medical racket’s latest dream come true.

  105. And in some cases, thought to be quite rare, transgender people later “detransition” to the gender they were assigned at birth.

    Lying sack of shit, these cases are known to be extremely common.

    On the other side of the debate are clinicians who say the guidelines are calling for unnecessary barriers to urgently needed care. Transgender teens have a high risk of attempting suicide, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    And the risk of suicide doesn’t decrease because you fuck up their bodies.

    And preliminary studies have suggested that adolescents who receive drug treatments to affirm their gender identity have improved mental health and well-being.

    Bullshit.

    Considering those data, some clinicians are opposed to any mental health requirements. “I’m really not a believer in requiring that for people,” said Dr. Alex Keuroghlian, a clinical psychiatrist at Fenway Health in Boston and the director of the Massachusetts General Hospital Psychiatry Gender Identity Program. “Being trans isn’t a mental health problem,” he later added.

    We’re not talking about “trans” people. We’re talking about non-“trans” people whom monsters like you have falsely diagnosed as “trans”.

  106. @James N. Kennett

    It’s almost as if the World Professional Association for Transgender Health has a vested financial interest in permanently sterilizing confused children.
     
    Indeed. Imagine a girl who believes her nose is too big. Who is she going to consult? If she goes to see a plastic surgeon, the outcome is a foregone conclusion.

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @ben tillman

    If she went to see Dr. Keuroghlian, he’d turn her into a probiscis monkey instead of changing the nose.

  107. @Erik L
    Could a young man argue that, gender being a spectrum, he identifies as a much manlier man, and get physician prescribed and monitored steroids so he can transition to the 400lb bench presser he has always felt like inside?

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @ben tillman

    Or, more obviously, why aren’t children who think they’re the other sex given their own sex’s hormones? About 101% of humans would think that’s a better idea than giving them opposite sex hormones.

  108. Jazz Jennings, 2021. This is a crime. Nature calls out for vengeance.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Daniel H

    ????


    Looks like the MtF transition is complete. That's a typial female physique.



    I'm not sure why Jazz Jennings gets hated on so much around here, I guess it's hecause she's more passably female than a lot of alt right women.

  109. @Alden
    @3g4me

    I remember the supermarket tabloid covers when Shiloh was a baby and toddler. It’s a standard rule of genetics that girls resemble fathers and paternal grandmother. And Shiloh was a gorgeous little girl. Those were the days when we food shopped twice a week. So I saw all the tabloid covers.,

    Angelina Jolie has a very ugly face but many men watch her movies because they find her sexually attractive. Shiloh like her father and paternal grandmother was a beautiful child and is now very pretty.

    I always thought that Angelina Jolie cut that gorgeous blond hair to a crew cut and dressed Shiloh like a boy because by the time Shiloh was 8 the trans thing was the next coming thing. And liberals and progressives dislike pretty clothes and pretty women. I remember the tabloid covers always had the White kids in back and the non White ones featured.

    You guys don’t read Vogue and Harper’s. The big thing nowadays is black models with an inch of frizz on their bald heads and the ugliest possible faces the photographers can find.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mike Tre, @3g4me, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Corvinus

    “I always thought that Angelina Jolie cut that gorgeous blond hair to a crew cut and dressed Shiloh like a boy because”

    …she was already envious of her daughter’s beauty and sought to diminish it?

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Mike Tre

    Because trans was the coming thing about 12 years ago and Angelina wanted to be on the cutting edge of liberalism. Adopting African babies was no longer enough.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

  110. @stillCARealist
    @Buffalo Joe

    As harsh as reality can be, unreality is even harsher.

    Do you think the real problem lies within the whole "follow your dream" nonsense? If you're following a dream, then you have to be ignoring the actual world.

    I know a 21 year old kid who's trying to be a hip musician/barista with tattoos and layer upon layer of cool. It's so pathetic I often have to look away. He's a lousy musician, the cafe job is supposed to only be a starter job, and his tattoos look like something between Harry Potter and a youth pastor. To my eyes this looks like a dreaming kid who will take another 10 years to grow up and realize he has accomplished nothing. He's not even close to the bottom of what plenty of his peers are doing.

    Perhaps I'm too judgmental and need to give the modern kids some patience. The world they're in is so screwed up.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    Do you think the real problem lies within the whole “follow your dream” nonsense?

    The “trans” thing provides an “illusion of agency in reinvention” (hat tip to Marty Bent).

  111. @Anonymous
    @Arclight

    I'm sure the consent forms these people have to sign contain clauses stating that no culpability attaches to the doctor if they later change their minds about the procedure.

    Replies: @Arclight, @ben tillman

    I’m sure the consent forms these people have to sign contain clauses stating that no culpability attaches to the doctor if they later change their minds about the procedure.

    But why would they be effective? Children can’t consent, and any putative consent would not be “informed”.

    • Agree: kaganovitch
    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @ben tillman

    If children can't consent, then how are these mutilations being done legally?

    Replies: @ben tillman

  112. @Alden
    @3g4me

    I remember the supermarket tabloid covers when Shiloh was a baby and toddler. It’s a standard rule of genetics that girls resemble fathers and paternal grandmother. And Shiloh was a gorgeous little girl. Those were the days when we food shopped twice a week. So I saw all the tabloid covers.,

    Angelina Jolie has a very ugly face but many men watch her movies because they find her sexually attractive. Shiloh like her father and paternal grandmother was a beautiful child and is now very pretty.

    I always thought that Angelina Jolie cut that gorgeous blond hair to a crew cut and dressed Shiloh like a boy because by the time Shiloh was 8 the trans thing was the next coming thing. And liberals and progressives dislike pretty clothes and pretty women. I remember the tabloid covers always had the White kids in back and the non White ones featured.

    You guys don’t read Vogue and Harper’s. The big thing nowadays is black models with an inch of frizz on their bald heads and the ugliest possible faces the photographers can find.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mike Tre, @3g4me, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Corvinus

    @94 Alden: I, too, recall all the tabloid covers while waiting in line at the grocery store – those covers were the basis of my comment – I distinctly recall wondering why she dressed such a pretty little infant/toddler in drab, unisex outfits. And you are correct – adopted non-White kids always in front in photos. Apparently there was some significant friction between Jolie and Pitt’s parents when Shiloh was young – no way to know but wouldn’t be surprised if it was because Jolie was grooming Shiloh to be trans.

    Difficult enough to grow up among the sexual deviants and narcissists in Hollywood. But to be the daughter of a purported sex symbol who grows ever more plastic (like all the photos featuring Jolie’s decolletage after she had both breasts removed because of cancer risk) must be miserable.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @3g4me

    My daughters are more beautiful than I am because they look like their father and paternal grandmother the Nordic god and goddess. Plus 5’7 is more noticeable than 5’3. But I always kept their hair long and dressed them well. Even selected their middle and high schools mostly because NDV and Hamlin’s had the most attractive school uniforms in town. I’m an esthete or lookist or biased in favor of good looking everything, not just people. I admit it and if liberals don’t like my preferences f’’em.

    Those toddler pictures of Shiloh she’s a clone of Brad Pitt also a beautiful toddler. Like my husband his mother and our daughters are clones .

    But by the time Shiloh was about 4 she was always hidden. Usually the youngest child is one one of the parents arms or laps. There’s a pair of White twins . Must be Brad’s?? Don’t think I ever saw them in the tabloid pictures.

    I don’t think it was jealousy. I think cutting Shiloh’s hair and dressing her like a boy was just a means of ostentatious liberalism display. Also so as to not contrast a very beautiful White child with unattractive Asian and black children.

    At least Jolie went for orphan kids instead of animal rights. And homeschooled her daughters so they didn’t go to school with Michael Jackson’s nephews and start dating blacks as the Kardashian sisters did. Thousands of dollars of tuition for all those daughters and they find blacks in private schools.

  113. “Yes, it is. It’s definitely more of a mental problem than of a physical problem that requires permanent sterilization.”

    It’s a mental health problem, Mr. Sailer. Let’s be more precise, shall we? Various research shows that a disproportionate number of trans people experience worse mental health than the general population, including higher rates of suicidality (12 times more likely), diagnosis with a mental disorder (3 times more likely), and experiences of psychological distress.

    Psychology Today–Distress and impairment, considered essential characteristics of mental disorders among transgender individuals primarily arises in response to the discrimination, stigma, lack of acceptance, and abuse they face on an unfortunately regular basis.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @Corvinus


    “Yes, it is. It’s definitely more of a mental problem than of a physical problem that requires permanent sterilization.”

    It’s a mental health problem,
     
    Keep up the yapping ChihuahuaVinus, perhaps 2022 will be the year Steve notices you.
  114. @Alden
    @Bill Jones

    It’s common for men prostitutes pretending to be women to be beaten sometimes murdered when the customers discovers the woman is a man.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    The suspended Virginia Tech linebacker who allegedly beat a male Tinder date to death after mistaking him for a woman was indicted on second-degree murder charges.

    https://nypost.com/2021/10/27/virginia-tech-linebacker-isimemen-etute-indicted-for-catfishing-murder/

    • Replies: @Alden
    @William Badwhite

    Good

  115. @Corvinus
    "Yes, it is. It’s definitely more of a mental problem than of a physical problem that requires permanent sterilization."

    It's a mental health problem, Mr. Sailer. Let's be more precise, shall we? Various research shows that a disproportionate number of trans people experience worse mental health than the general population, including higher rates of suicidality (12 times more likely), diagnosis with a mental disorder (3 times more likely), and experiences of psychological distress.

    Psychology Today--Distress and impairment, considered essential characteristics of mental disorders among transgender individuals primarily arises in response to the discrimination, stigma, lack of acceptance, and abuse they face on an unfortunately regular basis.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    “Yes, it is. It’s definitely more of a mental problem than of a physical problem that requires permanent sterilization.”

    It’s a mental health problem,

    Keep up the yapping ChihuahuaVinus, perhaps 2022 will be the year Steve notices you.

  116. @Mike Tre
    @Alden

    "I always thought that Angelina Jolie cut that gorgeous blond hair to a crew cut and dressed Shiloh like a boy because"

    ...she was already envious of her daughter's beauty and sought to diminish it?

    Replies: @Alden

    Because trans was the coming thing about 12 years ago and Angelina wanted to be on the cutting edge of liberalism. Adopting African babies was no longer enough.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Alden

    You're giving her way too much credit in suggesting she saw the tranny trend coming.

  117. @Alden
    @3g4me

    I remember the supermarket tabloid covers when Shiloh was a baby and toddler. It’s a standard rule of genetics that girls resemble fathers and paternal grandmother. And Shiloh was a gorgeous little girl. Those were the days when we food shopped twice a week. So I saw all the tabloid covers.,

    Angelina Jolie has a very ugly face but many men watch her movies because they find her sexually attractive. Shiloh like her father and paternal grandmother was a beautiful child and is now very pretty.

    I always thought that Angelina Jolie cut that gorgeous blond hair to a crew cut and dressed Shiloh like a boy because by the time Shiloh was 8 the trans thing was the next coming thing. And liberals and progressives dislike pretty clothes and pretty women. I remember the tabloid covers always had the White kids in back and the non White ones featured.

    You guys don’t read Vogue and Harper’s. The big thing nowadays is black models with an inch of frizz on their bald heads and the ugliest possible faces the photographers can find.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mike Tre, @3g4me, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Corvinus

    Sick world with sick people.

  118. @3g4me
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    @61 the Anti-Gnostic: You truly think Shiloh's 'boyish' phase was her own idea? Her mother was dressing her in blue and green unisex outfits and deliberately denigrating her looks from infancy, embarrassed to have given birth to a blonde, blue-eyed White-skinned girl. Instead, she gushed about how 'feminine' her adopted sub-Saharan daughter was.

    Maybe Shiloh's was saved by her 'parents' being too busy with their divorce drama to ensure she was butchered. No such luck for the former daughter of Warren Beatty and Annette Bening, whose natural sexuality and identity has been destroyed.

    Replies: @Alden, @The Anti-Gnostic

    What horrible people.

  119. @3g4me
    @Alden

    @94 Alden: I, too, recall all the tabloid covers while waiting in line at the grocery store - those covers were the basis of my comment - I distinctly recall wondering why she dressed such a pretty little infant/toddler in drab, unisex outfits. And you are correct - adopted non-White kids always in front in photos. Apparently there was some significant friction between Jolie and Pitt's parents when Shiloh was young - no way to know but wouldn't be surprised if it was because Jolie was grooming Shiloh to be trans.

    Difficult enough to grow up among the sexual deviants and narcissists in Hollywood. But to be the daughter of a purported sex symbol who grows ever more plastic (like all the photos featuring Jolie's decolletage after she had both breasts removed because of cancer risk) must be miserable.

    Replies: @Alden

    My daughters are more beautiful than I am because they look like their father and paternal grandmother the Nordic god and goddess. Plus 5’7 is more noticeable than 5’3. But I always kept their hair long and dressed them well. Even selected their middle and high schools mostly because NDV and Hamlin’s had the most attractive school uniforms in town. I’m an esthete or lookist or biased in favor of good looking everything, not just people. I admit it and if liberals don’t like my preferences f’’em.

    Those toddler pictures of Shiloh she’s a clone of Brad Pitt also a beautiful toddler. Like my husband his mother and our daughters are clones .

    But by the time Shiloh was about 4 she was always hidden. Usually the youngest child is one one of the parents arms or laps. There’s a pair of White twins . Must be Brad’s?? Don’t think I ever saw them in the tabloid pictures.

    I don’t think it was jealousy. I think cutting Shiloh’s hair and dressing her like a boy was just a means of ostentatious liberalism display. Also so as to not contrast a very beautiful White child with unattractive Asian and black children.

    At least Jolie went for orphan kids instead of animal rights. And homeschooled her daughters so they didn’t go to school with Michael Jackson’s nephews and start dating blacks as the Kardashian sisters did. Thousands of dollars of tuition for all those daughters and they find blacks in private schools.

  120. @Cloudbuster
    @Anon

    It's the puberty blockers that can sterilize people permanently. They can leave the recipient with underdeveloped sex organs. As another poster mentions, much past the normal age of puberty you can't just "store" your puberty for later use.

    The famous young man Jazz Jennings, who has a delusion that he is female, experienced problems with his "bottom" surgery because there simply wasn't enough developed genital tissue for construction of the permanent wound that was created to replace it.

    The article never says hormones cause irrevsersible sterility. You're reading into it what wasn't there. It says:

    "Some of the drug regimens bring long-term risks, such as irreversible fertility loss."

    Replies: @Anon

    Earth to dummy, it’s literally in the intro to the article:

    Clinicians are divided over new guidelines that say teens should undergo mental health screenings before receiving hormones or gender surgeries.

    Jazz Jennings may have been born with an abnormally small penis.

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    @Anon

    It's as if you are unable to untangle different concepts contained in the same article. Indeed the doctors are saying teens should undergo health screenings before receiving hormones or gender surgeries, both of which contain their own risks. Nowhere in the article does it say that hormones by themselves cause permanent sterility.

  121. @Daniel H
    Jazz Jennings, 2021. This is a crime. Nature calls out for vengeance.


    https://pagesix.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2021/11/jazz-jennings-3-1.png

    Replies: @Anon

    ????

    Looks like the MtF transition is complete. That’s a typial female physique.

    I’m not sure why Jazz Jennings gets hated on so much around here, I guess it’s hecause she’s more passably female than a lot of alt right women.

  122. @Alden
    @3g4me

    I remember the supermarket tabloid covers when Shiloh was a baby and toddler. It’s a standard rule of genetics that girls resemble fathers and paternal grandmother. And Shiloh was a gorgeous little girl. Those were the days when we food shopped twice a week. So I saw all the tabloid covers.,

    Angelina Jolie has a very ugly face but many men watch her movies because they find her sexually attractive. Shiloh like her father and paternal grandmother was a beautiful child and is now very pretty.

    I always thought that Angelina Jolie cut that gorgeous blond hair to a crew cut and dressed Shiloh like a boy because by the time Shiloh was 8 the trans thing was the next coming thing. And liberals and progressives dislike pretty clothes and pretty women. I remember the tabloid covers always had the White kids in back and the non White ones featured.

    You guys don’t read Vogue and Harper’s. The big thing nowadays is black models with an inch of frizz on their bald heads and the ugliest possible faces the photographers can find.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mike Tre, @3g4me, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Corvinus

    Spoken like an old scold.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Corvinus

    So you approve of an ugly mother with toothpick arms and legs trying to turn her pretty daughter into a boy?

    You would.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  123. @William Badwhite
    @Alden


    The suspended Virginia Tech linebacker who allegedly beat a male Tinder date to death after mistaking him for a woman was indicted on second-degree murder charges.
     
    https://nypost.com/2021/10/27/virginia-tech-linebacker-isimemen-etute-indicted-for-catfishing-murder/

    Replies: @Alden

    Good

  124. @Corvinus
    @Alden

    Spoken like an old scold.

    Replies: @Alden

    So you approve of an ugly mother with toothpick arms and legs trying to turn her pretty daughter into a boy?

    You would.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Alden

    “So you approve of an ugly mother with toothpick arms and legs trying to turn her pretty daughter into a boy?
    You would”

    Except that didn’t happen. You’re an old scold for judging beauty, similar to the Men of Unz whom you constantly berate for engaging in the same behavior.

    Now, this has been a question that you’ve dodged from me—you claimed you read over a couple of hundred thousand of books over your lifetime. How is that mathematically possible?

    Replies: @Alden, @Alden

  125. @Alden
    @Corvinus

    So you approve of an ugly mother with toothpick arms and legs trying to turn her pretty daughter into a boy?

    You would.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “So you approve of an ugly mother with toothpick arms and legs trying to turn her pretty daughter into a boy?
    You would”

    Except that didn’t happen. You’re an old scold for judging beauty, similar to the Men of Unz whom you constantly berate for engaging in the same behavior.

    Now, this has been a question that you’ve dodged from me—you claimed you read over a couple of hundred thousand of books over your lifetime. How is that mathematically possible?

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Corvinus

    I read very very very very fast.

    Replies: @Rob

    , @Alden
    @Corvinus

    I never never ever never never attack the MEN OF UNZ for comments about women’s looks. Just the rest of their derogatory comments. Especially when they insist Tessa Majors deserved to be murdered by 3 thugs because she went to college in NYC and rinsed her hair green.

    I happen to believe pink green lavender blue etc hair is very cute on young women, especially Asians.

    I admit it. I’m a lookist. I’m an esthete. I love beauty and dislike ugliness. In everything, not just people. Liberals love ugliness in everything. From people to architecture. Liberals hate color. I love color. Communists and liberals hate pretty women. Communist and liberal women go out of their way to look ugly. And another esthetic thing while I’m ranting. Why is it that liberal men can’t hold their heads up. Liberal men walk around with their heads hanging down. Why?

    You’re a liberal. Bad posture all stooped over shambling walk, born ugly and cultivate ugliness wrinkled clothes that’s what you look like. A typical liberal commie black criminal loving anti pretty White women ugly stooped wrinkled liberal man.

    AND another thing. Clothes should be ironed.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @David In TN, @Corvinus, @Alrenous

  126. @Alden
    @Mike Tre

    Because trans was the coming thing about 12 years ago and Angelina wanted to be on the cutting edge of liberalism. Adopting African babies was no longer enough.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    You’re giving her way too much credit in suggesting she saw the tranny trend coming.

  127. @Nicholas Stix
    “Experts in transgender health are divided on these adolescent recommendations, reflecting a fraught debate over how to weigh conflicting risks for young people...”

    “Experts in transgender health…”

    No such birds exist.

    “a fraught debate”

    Fake news reporter Azeen Ghorayshi, his editors, the quacks and activists are using misdirection here. They are quashing any debate over mutilating minors, with or without “counseling.” And the counseling would be given by evil activists.

    A true “expert in transgender health…” would be, for example, a traveling executioner who would behead those found guilty of sexually mutilating people of any age, or drawing and quartering said convicts.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Fake news reporter Azeen Ghorayshi, his editors,

    Azeen is a she.

    • Thanks: Nicholas Stix
    • LOL: Ben tillman
  128. @Wyatt
    @Nodwink


    In my early teens, I dressed up in my Nan’s dresses; later on, I put on lipstick a couple of times. On all of these occasions, I was just acting the goose, trying to rile up my elders a little. At no point did gender come into it, and no-one suggested I mutilate my own genitals.
     
    Back in my day, that used to just be good ol' fashioned queer. You sir, sound a might poofta.

    Replies: @Nodwink

    So this goon can say this to me, but my sharp (and witty) reply gets junked? RIGGED COMMENTS SECTION!

    • Thanks: Wyatt
  129. @ben tillman
    @Anonymous


    I’m sure the consent forms these people have to sign contain clauses stating that no culpability attaches to the doctor if they later change their minds about the procedure.
     
    But why would they be effective? Children can't consent, and any putative consent would not be "informed".

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    If children can’t consent, then how are these mutilations being done legally?

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @AceDeuce

    I have no idea how they're getting away with it.

  130. @Corvinus
    @Alden

    “So you approve of an ugly mother with toothpick arms and legs trying to turn her pretty daughter into a boy?
    You would”

    Except that didn’t happen. You’re an old scold for judging beauty, similar to the Men of Unz whom you constantly berate for engaging in the same behavior.

    Now, this has been a question that you’ve dodged from me—you claimed you read over a couple of hundred thousand of books over your lifetime. How is that mathematically possible?

    Replies: @Alden, @Alden

    I read very very very very fast.

    • Replies: @Rob
    @Alden

    Got any tips on how? I’d love to be able to read faster. Do you not have an “internal voice when you read?

    Replies: @Alden, @Alden

  131. @Corvinus
    @Alden

    “So you approve of an ugly mother with toothpick arms and legs trying to turn her pretty daughter into a boy?
    You would”

    Except that didn’t happen. You’re an old scold for judging beauty, similar to the Men of Unz whom you constantly berate for engaging in the same behavior.

    Now, this has been a question that you’ve dodged from me—you claimed you read over a couple of hundred thousand of books over your lifetime. How is that mathematically possible?

    Replies: @Alden, @Alden

    I never never ever never never attack the MEN OF UNZ for comments about women’s looks. Just the rest of their derogatory comments. Especially when they insist Tessa Majors deserved to be murdered by 3 thugs because she went to college in NYC and rinsed her hair green.

    I happen to believe pink green lavender blue etc hair is very cute on young women, especially Asians.

    I admit it. I’m a lookist. I’m an esthete. I love beauty and dislike ugliness. In everything, not just people. Liberals love ugliness in everything. From people to architecture. Liberals hate color. I love color. Communists and liberals hate pretty women. Communist and liberal women go out of their way to look ugly. And another esthetic thing while I’m ranting. Why is it that liberal men can’t hold their heads up. Liberal men walk around with their heads hanging down. Why?

    You’re a liberal. Bad posture all stooped over shambling walk, born ugly and cultivate ugliness wrinkled clothes that’s what you look like. A typical liberal commie black criminal loving anti pretty White women ugly stooped wrinkled liberal man.

    AND another thing. Clothes should be ironed.

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Alden

    Alden, I admit sometimes even I look askance at you, but then you come around and hit the nail on the head. I write to you as a man who, when single and adult for two decades, absolutely loved women and had many. You and they are great. I practically worship you (them.) Any man who does not understand this is not fully a man.

    Beauty is very, very important. Recognizing it and valuing it is equally important.

    , @David In TN
    @Alden

    Speaking of Tessa Majors, sentencing for the third murderer, one Rashaun Weaver, was scheduled for this Wednesday, January 19.

    Weaver's attorneys pleaded him guilty to "14 years to Life."

    Replies: @Alden

    , @Corvinus
    @Alden

    “I read very very very very fast.”

    Why didn’t you map it out with math. Start with your claim you read 200000 books. How many pages on average is each book? How many books each day? How many hours each day that you read?

    “ You’re a liberal”

    No, I’m a married white man with children who makes their own decisions about race and culture.

    , @Alrenous
    @Alden

    Brown has been done. It's a real shame that coloured hair has become a far-left cultural tag. Any time you see some interesting and detailed hair choices, you know the brain under it is the most basic of basic bitches.

    On the other hand, having the roots grow in always ruins it, which makes the practice rather expensive for what you get.

  132. @Abolish_public_education
    I'm actually acquainted with several, smart young adults who are "in-transition". Why can't attention-seekers go back to benign exhibitions like swallowing goldfish and burning their bras? (Men can burn their draft registration cards.)

    That picture of the freaky, topless swimmer was truly disgusting. Abolish medical licensing laws. If a young woman wants to be butchered, allow her the dignity to decide whether to have the service performed at the meat department at Safeway.

    Replies: @Ian Smith

    So your shtick is to be the libertarian equivalent of Tiny Duck? 🥱

    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    @Ian Smith

    I skip over TD's comments, in that others way more familiar with it always accuse it of being a professional troll.

    I'm a believer in libertarianism. Cutting into the med monopoly is lib and philosophically strong. I support it, but due to priorities, it's going to have to wait until after we a_p_e.

    Replies: @Ian Smith

  133. And preliminary studies have suggested that adolescents who receive drug treatments to affirm their gender identity have improved mental health and well-being.

    Weasel words galore in this sentence.
    These “doctors” are a disgrace to their profession.

  134. @Anon
    @Cloudbuster

    Earth to dummy, it's literally in the intro to the article:


    Clinicians are divided over new guidelines that say teens should undergo mental health screenings before receiving hormones or gender surgeries.
     
    Jazz Jennings may have been born with an abnormally small penis.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster

    It’s as if you are unable to untangle different concepts contained in the same article. Indeed the doctors are saying teens should undergo health screenings before receiving hormones or gender surgeries, both of which contain their own risks. Nowhere in the article does it say that hormones by themselves cause permanent sterility.

  135. @Alden
    @Corvinus

    I never never ever never never attack the MEN OF UNZ for comments about women’s looks. Just the rest of their derogatory comments. Especially when they insist Tessa Majors deserved to be murdered by 3 thugs because she went to college in NYC and rinsed her hair green.

    I happen to believe pink green lavender blue etc hair is very cute on young women, especially Asians.

    I admit it. I’m a lookist. I’m an esthete. I love beauty and dislike ugliness. In everything, not just people. Liberals love ugliness in everything. From people to architecture. Liberals hate color. I love color. Communists and liberals hate pretty women. Communist and liberal women go out of their way to look ugly. And another esthetic thing while I’m ranting. Why is it that liberal men can’t hold their heads up. Liberal men walk around with their heads hanging down. Why?

    You’re a liberal. Bad posture all stooped over shambling walk, born ugly and cultivate ugliness wrinkled clothes that’s what you look like. A typical liberal commie black criminal loving anti pretty White women ugly stooped wrinkled liberal man.

    AND another thing. Clothes should be ironed.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @David In TN, @Corvinus, @Alrenous

    Alden, I admit sometimes even I look askance at you, but then you come around and hit the nail on the head. I write to you as a man who, when single and adult for two decades, absolutely loved women and had many. You and they are great. I practically worship you (them.) Any man who does not understand this is not fully a man.

    Beauty is very, very important. Recognizing it and valuing it is equally important.

  136. @Ian Smith
    @Abolish_public_education

    So your shtick is to be the libertarian equivalent of Tiny Duck? 🥱

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education

    I skip over TD’s comments, in that others way more familiar with it always accuse it of being a professional troll.

    I’m a believer in libertarianism. Cutting into the med monopoly is lib and philosophically strong. I support it, but due to priorities, it’s going to have to wait until after we a_p_e.

    • Replies: @Ian Smith
    @Abolish_public_education

    a_p_e? What’s that?

  137. @Nodwink
    You get the feeling that a lot of these kids have been left to their own devices for large amounts of time while growing up, and maybe this is a chance to get some attention (and sympathy).

    In my early teens, I dressed up in my Nan's dresses; later on, I put on lipstick a couple of times. On all of these occasions, I was just acting the goose, trying to rile up my elders a little. At no point did gender come into it, and no-one suggested I mutilate my own genitals. I think everyone has gone crazy over this.

    Replies: @Wyatt, @Veteran Aryan

    no-one suggested I mutilate my own genitals.

    Did you not get my email?

    • Replies: @Nodwink
    @Veteran Aryan

    No. If you want to go into more details about this, I actually collect these. Send them by mail to my home address:

    Mister Nod Wink
    935 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
    Washington, D.C. 20535-0001

    Thanks in advance.

  138. @Alden
    @Corvinus

    I never never ever never never attack the MEN OF UNZ for comments about women’s looks. Just the rest of their derogatory comments. Especially when they insist Tessa Majors deserved to be murdered by 3 thugs because she went to college in NYC and rinsed her hair green.

    I happen to believe pink green lavender blue etc hair is very cute on young women, especially Asians.

    I admit it. I’m a lookist. I’m an esthete. I love beauty and dislike ugliness. In everything, not just people. Liberals love ugliness in everything. From people to architecture. Liberals hate color. I love color. Communists and liberals hate pretty women. Communist and liberal women go out of their way to look ugly. And another esthetic thing while I’m ranting. Why is it that liberal men can’t hold their heads up. Liberal men walk around with their heads hanging down. Why?

    You’re a liberal. Bad posture all stooped over shambling walk, born ugly and cultivate ugliness wrinkled clothes that’s what you look like. A typical liberal commie black criminal loving anti pretty White women ugly stooped wrinkled liberal man.

    AND another thing. Clothes should be ironed.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @David In TN, @Corvinus, @Alrenous

    Speaking of Tessa Majors, sentencing for the third murderer, one Rashaun Weaver, was scheduled for this Wednesday, January 19.

    Weaver’s attorneys pleaded him guilty to “14 years to Life.”

    • Replies: @Alden
    @David In TN

    Thanks. He’ll serve 7 years at most. Time off for good behavior. Good behavior is a day with no incident recorded. Plus there’s prison over crowding, the next cooties Plague, whatever, he might be out sooner.

    Makes one think. Carolyn Bryant had warning, a gun and only had to fight one black thug, Emmett Till. And her husband and his 2 black employees made sure Emmett would never attack a woman again.

    Poor Tessa had no warning and was attacked by three blacks

  139. @AceDeuce
    @ben tillman

    If children can't consent, then how are these mutilations being done legally?

    Replies: @ben tillman

    I have no idea how they’re getting away with it.

  140. @Abolish_public_education
    @Ian Smith

    I skip over TD's comments, in that others way more familiar with it always accuse it of being a professional troll.

    I'm a believer in libertarianism. Cutting into the med monopoly is lib and philosophically strong. I support it, but due to priorities, it's going to have to wait until after we a_p_e.

    Replies: @Ian Smith

    a_p_e? What’s that?

  141. @Rob
    Counseling teenagers who want to “change genders” is super-important. Remember being a teenager, how you were an idiot but thought you knew a lot? There are probably a lot of trans kids who are victims of a parent’s Munchausen by proxy.

    For one thing, girls who want to become men need to know that they cannot do that. They can become transmen. If the natal girl is gynophilic, she needs to know that more lesbians want to date other lesbians than there are straight women who want to date transmen. For natal boys who want to become transwomen, they need to know that in addition to a much-restricted dating pool, dating for transwomen is dangerous. Tolerance for gay people is much easier than for trans people. Gay men mostly want to have sex with other gay men. For transwomen who are attracted to men, men they date will often (usually?) feel “tricked” into sex they do not want to have.

    Both natal girls and boys who want to transition need expectation management. Responsible cosmetic surgeons refer patients to counseling. For one thing, most men make very unattractive women. Girls who transition will be short, weak men. Dating will be difficult. Employment may also be harder for trans people than for somewhat non-gender-conforming cis people.

    You know all those kids and teens who think along the lines of, “why do people have their own kids when there are many kids who need to be adopted?” The vast majority of those kids become adults who do not adopt. “Trans” teenagers need to know that, given current tech, they cannot skip cis puberty, have “bottom” gender confirmation surgery, and have their own children. Will scientists figure out how to create ova from XY cells? Probably. Turning XX karyotype cells into sperm cells? Maybe? I can think of a few ways that might work. The procedure will be very expensive. On the other hand, if they do go through cis puberty, sex cells can be frozen. Though they may run into the problem of having partners who inconveniently have the same kind of gametes. Awkward?

    But how to get the kids into counseling that does not try to railroad them into surgery? I could see the counseling being hardcore religious or proggy railroading. Maybe the kids need to see both sorts?

    There are kids, mostly girls, I think who have precocious puberty. Like really young. Maybe 5-6 years old. They give them puberty blockers of the same sort they give to “trans” kids. When precocious puberty kids stop taking the drugs at maybe 11 or 12, I am pretty sure they go through normal puberty. But it also stands to reason that delaying puberty until 18 is a very different beast. For one thing, can you imagine looking like a nine-year-old senior year of high school or freshman year of college? Whether you chose cis or trans puberty, you will really not fit in with your peer group. For another thing, is a kid who has had puberty blocked until 18 have anything like normal brain function? There’s a good chance they have a nine-year-old’s mind. Are they really “adults” who can decide to transition?

    What’s the Baumeister or Bailey-style theory for little boys who want to transition? They are pretty much too young to have autogynephilia, right? Were their brains just not masculinized early? Would male puberty change that?

    I’d like to bang the GWAS drum here. It’d be cool to have genetic info on “trans” teens, adults who transition, and ones who de-transition. Genetically, are trans teenagers like trans adults? What about de-transitioners, are they genetically distinct? If the same alleles are common in adult trans people and teens, then that would imply that the “trans phenotype” is stable. If they can predict who is likely to de-transition, those kids can be spared a ton of pain by not starting on that road.

    Replies: @Occasional lurker

    Very good comment.

  142. @David In TN
    @Alden

    Speaking of Tessa Majors, sentencing for the third murderer, one Rashaun Weaver, was scheduled for this Wednesday, January 19.

    Weaver's attorneys pleaded him guilty to "14 years to Life."

    Replies: @Alden

    Thanks. He’ll serve 7 years at most. Time off for good behavior. Good behavior is a day with no incident recorded. Plus there’s prison over crowding, the next cooties Plague, whatever, he might be out sooner.

    Makes one think. Carolyn Bryant had warning, a gun and only had to fight one black thug, Emmett Till. And her husband and his 2 black employees made sure Emmett would never attack a woman again.

    Poor Tessa had no warning and was attacked by three blacks

  143. @Anon
    "“Irreversible fertility loss …”

    Sure, sterilizing adolescents might seem a little harsh, but think about the Big Picture: if I don’t permanently destroy this child’s chance to have children, is the medical insurance company going to pay me enough for my trip to Marrakesh this year?"

    Except the times gives no evidence of this loss: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1153424052712890368.html

    "You just said that “Transgender teens have a high risk of attempting suicide.” Indulging their mental illness in order to bill their medical insurance is evil."

    Again context is missing on why they comitt suicide: https://kathrynhgordon.com/2018/05/14/fact-checking-5-suicide-related-statements-from-a-viral-ben-shapiro-video/

    "And in some cases, thought to be quite rare, transgender people later “detransition” to the gender they were assigned at birth." Usually because of discrimination: https://fenwayhealth.org/new-study-shows-discrimination-stigma-and-family-pressure-drive-detransition-among-transgender-people/

    Go to hell Steve,you clearly don't know the science.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Nicholas Stix, @Alden

    Aha! Another occupation de transition surgeons therapists pills counselors and consultants. Similar to cars that need constant repairs.

  144. @Alden
    @Corvinus

    I never never ever never never attack the MEN OF UNZ for comments about women’s looks. Just the rest of their derogatory comments. Especially when they insist Tessa Majors deserved to be murdered by 3 thugs because she went to college in NYC and rinsed her hair green.

    I happen to believe pink green lavender blue etc hair is very cute on young women, especially Asians.

    I admit it. I’m a lookist. I’m an esthete. I love beauty and dislike ugliness. In everything, not just people. Liberals love ugliness in everything. From people to architecture. Liberals hate color. I love color. Communists and liberals hate pretty women. Communist and liberal women go out of their way to look ugly. And another esthetic thing while I’m ranting. Why is it that liberal men can’t hold their heads up. Liberal men walk around with their heads hanging down. Why?

    You’re a liberal. Bad posture all stooped over shambling walk, born ugly and cultivate ugliness wrinkled clothes that’s what you look like. A typical liberal commie black criminal loving anti pretty White women ugly stooped wrinkled liberal man.

    AND another thing. Clothes should be ironed.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @David In TN, @Corvinus, @Alrenous

    “I read very very very very fast.”

    Why didn’t you map it out with math. Start with your claim you read 200000 books. How many pages on average is each book? How many books each day? How many hours each day that you read?

    “ You’re a liberal”

    No, I’m a married white man with children who makes their own decisions about race and culture.

  145. @Alden
    @Corvinus

    I read very very very very fast.

    Replies: @Rob

    Got any tips on how? I’d love to be able to read faster. Do you not have an “internal voice when you read?

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Rob

    Sorry, I can’t analyze or explain it. Somewhere in 2nd grade I started to read very fast. And got faster. I always liked to read more than watching TV. That was like practicing a skill.

    Might be something on the internet.

    , @Alden
    @Rob

    Google lists several sites about fast reading. There’s even an APP

  146. @Rob
    @Alden

    Got any tips on how? I’d love to be able to read faster. Do you not have an “internal voice when you read?

    Replies: @Alden, @Alden

    Sorry, I can’t analyze or explain it. Somewhere in 2nd grade I started to read very fast. And got faster. I always liked to read more than watching TV. That was like practicing a skill.

    Might be something on the internet.

  147. @Alden
    @Corvinus

    I never never ever never never attack the MEN OF UNZ for comments about women’s looks. Just the rest of their derogatory comments. Especially when they insist Tessa Majors deserved to be murdered by 3 thugs because she went to college in NYC and rinsed her hair green.

    I happen to believe pink green lavender blue etc hair is very cute on young women, especially Asians.

    I admit it. I’m a lookist. I’m an esthete. I love beauty and dislike ugliness. In everything, not just people. Liberals love ugliness in everything. From people to architecture. Liberals hate color. I love color. Communists and liberals hate pretty women. Communist and liberal women go out of their way to look ugly. And another esthetic thing while I’m ranting. Why is it that liberal men can’t hold their heads up. Liberal men walk around with their heads hanging down. Why?

    You’re a liberal. Bad posture all stooped over shambling walk, born ugly and cultivate ugliness wrinkled clothes that’s what you look like. A typical liberal commie black criminal loving anti pretty White women ugly stooped wrinkled liberal man.

    AND another thing. Clothes should be ironed.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @David In TN, @Corvinus, @Alrenous

    Brown has been done. It’s a real shame that coloured hair has become a far-left cultural tag. Any time you see some interesting and detailed hair choices, you know the brain under it is the most basic of basic bitches.

    On the other hand, having the roots grow in always ruins it, which makes the practice rather expensive for what you get.

  148. @Rob
    @Alden

    Got any tips on how? I’d love to be able to read faster. Do you not have an “internal voice when you read?

    Replies: @Alden, @Alden

    Google lists several sites about fast reading. There’s even an APP

  149. @Veteran Aryan
    @Nodwink


    no-one suggested I mutilate my own genitals.
     
    Did you not get my email?

    Replies: @Nodwink

    No. If you want to go into more details about this, I actually collect these. Send them by mail to my home address:

    Mister Nod Wink
    935 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
    Washington, D.C. 20535-0001

    Thanks in advance.

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