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Baylor, a Baptist university in Waco, Texas, failed to finish the season in the top 25 college football teams in the country from 1987 to 2010. But then it upgraded its program and was ranked four out of the next five seasons.

How’d they do it?

From the Dallas Morning News:

New Baylor lawsuit alleges 52 rapes by football players in 4 years, ‘show ’em a good time’ culture

Sarah Mervosh, Breaking News Enterprise reporter

A Baylor University graduate who says she was raped by football players in 2013 sued the university Friday. Her lawsuit includes an allegation that 31 Baylor football players committed at least 52 acts of rape, including five gang rapes, between 2011 and 2014 — an estimate that far exceeds the number previously provided by school officials.

Those figures could not be independently verified Friday, and Baylor officials declined to comment on their accuracy.

The woman, identified in the suit by the pseudonym Elizabeth Doe, reports being gang raped by then-Baylor football players Tre’Von Armstead and Shamycheal Chatman after a party on April 18, 2013. …

The lawsuit describes a culture of sexual violence under former Baylor football coach Art Briles in which the school implemented a “show ’em a good time” policy that “used sex to sell” the football program to recruits. That included escorting underage recruits to strip clubs and arranging women to have sex with prospective players, the suit alleges.

Former assistant coach Kendal Briles — the son of the head coach — once told a Dallas-area student athlete, “Do you like white women? Because we have a lot of them at Baylor and they love football players,” according to the suit. …

One of the woman’s teammates on the Baylor Bruin group to host prospective athletes instructed Doe to tell police she had “consensual sex with one white male” to protect the athletes, the lawsuit alleges. It cites a Title IX investigation into the incident, which later showed that Chatman had called the Bruin and given her the “assignment.”

 
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  1. “Do You Like White Women? Because We Have a Lot of Them at Baylor and They Love Football Players”

    Gotta admit, it’s a clever plan for attracting thugs (sorry, I mean “future NFL stars”) to your college campus!

    Odd thing, though: Tre’Von Armstead and Shamycheal Chatman are conspicuous by their absence from MSM college-rape hysteria. Along with hundreds more like them. Not that I notice this or anything.

    • Replies: @King Baeksu

    Tre’Von Armstead and Shamycheal Chatman are conspicuous by their absence from MSM college-rape hysteria.
     
    "College rape"? Surely you're better than that.

    The preferred term here, of course, is "undocumented intramural dating."

    Shame on you, racist!

  2. I’m guessing those 52 girls aren’t going to end up on Fixer-Upper.

  3. Any white guy who watched American Football is a cuck-roach.

    What is it a celebration of? Black guys whupping white guys and humping white girls.

    This is something a white guy wants to cheer to?

    US and EU are both turning into crap with Negromania.

    • Agree: Clyde
    • Replies: @cucksworth
    As a guy who played division 3 football at a UAA League school(humble brag), I cannot fathom these rednecks in Tennessee for instance who have no connection to a school (didn't even go to college) getting all excited over their university of random fly over state with small population football squad.

    Also, football has become boarder line barbaric, and I am so glad ratings are down. My very smart cousin who played in a superbowl (nother brag) can imagine the day when football is over and finished as a sport.

    , @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    "Any white guy who watched American Football is a cuck-roach.

    What is it a celebration of? Black guys whupping white guys and humping white girls."

    Not always. Since you don't watch football, I'll let you know the NFL's Whitest and only majority-White team, the Patriots, is in the Super Bowl again -- and their White men routinely whup black guys all day long on the gridiron.
    , @Truth

    What is it a celebration of? Black guys whupping white guys and humping white girls.

    This is something a white guy wants to cheer to?
     
    -"Well apparently, Einstein!"

    Signed;

    Nielsen ratings, and Media Analytics
  4. An opportunity for Rolling Stone and Sabrina Rubin Erdely to redeem themselves: write about this.

    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    Oh sure, let the 'controlled media' get ahold of this. They'll play fast and loose with the facts and reverse the races. A ratings bonanza! Oh yeah, I can hardly wait.
  5. I don’t see why they connect the “culture” (my,what an abused term) of “show ’em a good time” to rape. There are plenty of young women willing to have sex for money, if you’re looking to show people a good time.

    Rape is more a result of a “look the other way” “culture.”

    • Replies: @Desiderius

    I don’t see why they connect the “culture” (my,what an abused term) of “show ‘em a good time” to rape.
     
    Is has to do with the particular 'em that they're targeting.
    , @snorlax
    It's more that dudes to want to be shown a good time (by a third party procurer) are also likely to be rapists.
  6. Anonymous [AKA "wills11111"] says:

    Even better:

    One of the woman’s teammates on the Baylor Bruin group to host prospective athletes instructed Doe to tell police she had “consensual sex with one white male” to protect the athletes, the lawsuit alleges.

    • Replies: @bomag
    We tsked tsked over England's Rotherham scandal, where officials there offered up the native girls to Pakistani rape gangs.

    Glad that doesn't happen here.

    Oh, wait...

    , @Opinionator
    Wow. That seems worth looking into further.
    , @guest
    Adults can sue other adults for suggesting they lie to the police? Couldn't she have just ignored him?
    , @Forbes
    Smells off. Presumably Doe reports a rape to the police, investigators follow-up with victim interviews. Meanwhile, a third party instructs the alleged rape victim to report consensual sex--to protect the rapist athletes. Really? Where there's smoke, there's probably fire. Either there's more to this story, or there's elaborate embellishment going on.
  7. One of the woman’s teammates on the Baylor Bruin group to host prospective athletes instructed Doe to tell police she had “consensual sex with one white male” to protect the athletes, the lawsuit alleges.

  8. @Kyle McKenna

    "Do You Like White Women? Because We Have a Lot of Them at Baylor and They Love Football Players"
     
    Gotta admit, it's a clever plan for attracting thugs (sorry, I mean "future NFL stars") to your college campus!

    Odd thing, though: Tre’Von Armstead and Shamycheal Chatman are conspicuous by their absence from MSM college-rape hysteria. Along with hundreds more like them. Not that I notice this or anything.

    Tre’Von Armstead and Shamycheal Chatman are conspicuous by their absence from MSM college-rape hysteria.

    “College rape”? Surely you’re better than that.

    The preferred term here, of course, is “undocumented intramural dating.”

    Shame on you, racist!

    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Or "undocumented intercourse"
  9. @Anonymous
    Even better:

    One of the woman's teammates on the Baylor Bruin group to host prospective athletes instructed Doe to tell police she had "consensual sex with one white male" to protect the athletes, the lawsuit alleges.

    We tsked tsked over England’s Rotherham scandal, where officials there offered up the native girls to Pakistani rape gangs.

    Glad that doesn’t happen here.

    Oh, wait…

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    David P. Goldman (AKA "Spengler") has observed that the last thing a beaten civilization does is sell its women.

    At the Rotherhams of the West, the payment was merely avoiding inconvenience. At the Baylors of the West, the payment was merely sport stats.

    , @dc.sunsets
    Stupid is as stupid does.

    White girls who hang around blacks get what they deserve. People who play with rattlesnakes can't complain about being bitten.

    A white girl who was raped by a black better have the broken bones or knife wounds to prove it. If she so much as knew his first name, she bears the same culpability for her condition as the mugging victim who loudly flashed his cash & Rolex.

    It's long past time to heap derision on these stupid girls whose mothers failed the first rule of parenting.
    , @Truth
    Well, there is the small, insignificant matter that you are comparing 20 year-olds to pre-teens, but, yeah, distinction without a difference...
  10. @guest
    I don't see why they connect the "culture" (my,what an abused term) of "show 'em a good time" to rape. There are plenty of young women willing to have sex for money, if you're looking to show people a good time.

    Rape is more a result of a "look the other way" "culture."

    I don’t see why they connect the “culture” (my,what an abused term) of “show ‘em a good time” to rape.

    Is has to do with the particular ’em that they’re targeting.

  11. I don’t understand the theory behind these lawsuits. Is the idea that if Baylor didn’t recruit the players, they wouldn’t have raped anyone? More likely, they would have still been rapist, but they would of raped some unfortunate girls who we don’t care about so much rather than relatively privileged Baylor students.

    • Replies: @Fredrik
    Baylor's responsibility is to keep Baylor safe. The rest is for the state of Texas to handle.
    , @bomag
    Baylor enabled and facilitated the rapes far beyond the point where they would have happened otherwise, thus they bear some culpability.

    We should guide our high functioning young women into forming and raising families, but we seem to be in an age where we "harvest" them for other purposes; not only as bait for football recruits, but we offer them up to the harem of corporate sterility, Hollywood glamour, etc. This does not look like a path for long term success.
    , @ben tillman

    I don’t understand the theory behind these lawsuits. Is the idea that if Baylor didn’t recruit the players, they wouldn’t have raped anyone?
     
    Yes, and it's perfectly reasonable. They put the fox in the henhouse. They gave them license to rape.
  12. @Anonymous
    Even better:

    One of the woman's teammates on the Baylor Bruin group to host prospective athletes instructed Doe to tell police she had "consensual sex with one white male" to protect the athletes, the lawsuit alleges.

    Wow. That seems worth looking into further.

  13. @King Baeksu

    Tre’Von Armstead and Shamycheal Chatman are conspicuous by their absence from MSM college-rape hysteria.
     
    "College rape"? Surely you're better than that.

    The preferred term here, of course, is "undocumented intramural dating."

    Shame on you, racist!

    Or “undocumented intercourse”

  14. OT: Hiring freezes have been instituted at
    many colleges and universities in Missouri,
    Nebraska, and Connecticut. Missouri is the
    latest example. After the famous 2015 racial unrest
    at the University of Missouri in Columbia, which produced
    a 25% budget drop, the whole university system is now
    facing a severe budget cutback under the new Republican
    governor Eric Greitens.

    As someone who is based in academia, I have seen the
    salaries of the presidents, provosts, deans, coaches,
    department chairs, and administrators reach astronomical
    levels while the faculty salaries have been low and largely
    stagnant. There is plenty of money for diversity budgets,
    white privilege workshops, women’s studies, and black studies
    while science, technology, and engineering departments are
    continually struggling with budget shortfalls. There is so much
    waste in the state university systems I wouldn’t even know where
    to begin. Hopefully, as a result of the massive hiring freezes many
    of the frivolous degree programs will be eliminated.

    • Replies: @bomag

    There is so muchwaste in the state university systems I wouldn’t even know where to begin. </blockquote

    Amen. And among the other rackets, let's note the foreign student recruitment racket, and the eagerness to fill bloated faculty and staff positions with foreigners to burnish the diversity cred. Couple this with their well-noted tendency to turn out hyper-sensitive SJW snowflakes, and the places are becoming a blight on our society.
    , @RonaldB
    That sounds like part of the hollowing out of US production capacity and the division of the population into wealthy and impoverished segments. Science and engineering faculties are part of the eroding production class. Graduates of the "studies" program (gender, racial, social justice) will either be part of the impoverished class, or the lucky few that weasel their way into the wealthy classes.

    In truth, as Michele Malkin documented in "Sold Out"
    https://www.amazon.com/Sold-Out-Billionaires-Bipartisan-Crapweasels/dp/1501115944/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1485616062&sr=8-3&keywords=michelle+malkin
    American technology workers are also facing unemployment in the face of illegal competition by H-1b foreign workers recruited by corporations.

    Trump seems well on his way to turning the situation around, at least for his time in office. But, the structural weakness is there: the Republican and Democratic establishment are uniformly on the side of the globalists; once Trump is out of office, the chances of a comparable replacement are slim.
    , @Daniel Chieh
    Sounds like your universities have successfully managed to self-destruct. In ten, twenty years, the SJW problem will have solved itself.
    , @Johann
    I read recently that a survey taken of the highest paid employees in the states across the country, it revealed that the head football coach was the highest paid of all state employees including the governor. The ongoing disgrace of this scandal is that the average tax payer goes along with this rape because they want a team that wins. What a bunch of morons who worship cretinous coaches and tolerate felonious crimes committed by the savage ball players. The worship of sports and athletes is the center of the downfall of the American State.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Hopefully, as a result of the massive hiring freezes many of the frivolous degree programs will be eliminated.
     
    Or they could just get rid of those superfluous science and engineering departments, and focus on the University's core-competencies: Whiteness studies, Gender equity, LGBTQWERTY advocacy, and Sportsball.
  15. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Rape, my foot. They very much wanted to partake the hot sausages. Why else would they go to a place filled with football players and alcohol. They are just trying to dig some gold now.

    Exhibit #1: That lovely little clip; Illustrates the intensity of the forbidden fruit in all of two minutes.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Steve raised the possibility previously that they might have consented to having sex with player #1, but not with teammates he handed them off to subsequently.
    , @Anon
    "They are just trying to dig some gold now."

    I don't think college players have much dough.

    For most of them, college will be their last good time.
    , @RonaldB
    Baylor is an expensive, exclusive school. Families sending their children there and actually paying the tuition have every right to expect the school to maintain a safe environment, even in the light of stupid decisions by the female students to fraternize with the football players. If there isn't a certain safety factor for stupidity by the students, then why bother to send them to an exclusive school in the first place?

    In truth, if the allegations in the lawsuit are shown to be true, and publicized, it will do more damage to the school than the actual damages. Most alumni will withhold any support for the school, and sensible parents will avoid sending their children. The few idiots who value the victory of football above all else will compete for the Darwin award when they send their offspring to a rapist culture.

    The final victory would be the withdrawal of all federal support for universities, making them actually compete for students by offering real value.
    , @AnotherDad

    Rape, my foot. They very much wanted to partake the hot sausages. Why else would they go to a place filled with football players and alcohol. They are just trying to dig some gold now.
     
    Maybe a few. I'd bet most not.

    I think ... "hey they are adult women" doesn't quite work. One must realize that these girls while 18 are going to be very naïve about black football players. They've been bathed in media propaganda that lies continually about blacks and tells them that inter-racial dating and mating is just fine--better than fine, superior! And they have little idea that these black footballers won't behave like their male classmates at their suburban high school. And parents don't give their daughters any racial "real talk" ... that would be racist and would be greeted with squealing hatred and disgust by their daughters anyway; parents just assume\hope their daughters wouldn't go there. Then the university uses their "school spirit" volunteerism as racial revenge juicy fruit rape bait? In short this is a lambs in the lions den scenario.

    Yes, I have a very high level of disgust toward these women chasing--or simply curious about--the primitive. But it's not like our culture--media, parents, university--is giving these girls any sort of realistic picture of reality which is required to avoid bad decisions. Given, that there's a number of "stupid white girls" on every campus making these sort of dumb decisions, is hardly a surprise.
  16. Speaking of football players (but not of rape), I have written a series of four articles about the racist vandalism, on December 6, of the home of Giants fullback Nikita Whitlock in Moonachie, New Jersey.

    The first article is at this webpage:

    http://people-who-did-not-see.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-vandalism-of-nikita-whitlocks-home.html

    My current theory is that an acquaintance believed that Whitlock still had a valuable supply of performance-enhancing drugs in his home. The acquaintance broke in with the intention of stealing only those drugs. In order to distract Whitlock from suspecting him, however, the acquaintance stole a few other items (jewelry and video gaming system) and drew the racist graffiti.

  17. @Anonymous
    Even better:

    One of the woman's teammates on the Baylor Bruin group to host prospective athletes instructed Doe to tell police she had "consensual sex with one white male" to protect the athletes, the lawsuit alleges.

    Adults can sue other adults for suggesting they lie to the police? Couldn’t she have just ignored him?

    • Replies: @RonaldB
    A student 18 or 19 years of age is not exactly ready to manifest the independence of character needed to ignore a trusted authority figure. I think a lot hinges on the implicit, or explicit, contract between Baylor and the parents who pay the tuition.

    If parents entrust their children to the college on the grounds that the college assumes a certain responsibility for their well-being, then there is definitely a dereliction of contract when a college authority, as a representative of the college, gives them abominable advice.

    Of course, Baylor could defend against the lawsuit by asserting that its students are adults and completely on their own as far as making decisions. I'd actually like to see them make that defense in a public forum like the court. That would do wonders for recruiting actual students and alumni support.
  18. @dude
    I don't understand the theory behind these lawsuits. Is the idea that if Baylor didn't recruit the players, they wouldn't have raped anyone? More likely, they would have still been rapist, but they would of raped some unfortunate girls who we don't care about so much rather than relatively privileged Baylor students.

    Baylor’s responsibility is to keep Baylor safe. The rest is for the state of Texas to handle.

  19. Do two rapists constitute a gang? Wouldn’t you say they double-teamed or tag-teamed you? “Gang rape” doesn’t sound appropriate to me.

  20. @anon
    Rape, my foot. They very much wanted to partake the hot sausages. Why else would they go to a place filled with football players and alcohol. They are just trying to dig some gold now.

    Exhibit #1: That lovely little clip; Illustrates the intensity of the forbidden fruit in all of two minutes.

    Steve raised the possibility previously that they might have consented to having sex with player #1, but not with teammates he handed them off to subsequently.

  21. I am pleased to see Trump and some of the smarter House and Senate Republicans moving away from Ryan/Koch plan to destroy Trump and the party by repealing the ACA.

    Eight days ago here I posted:

    Even if Trump improves the system, he’s never going to give America what it actually wants: free high quality healthcare for everyone with no tax increases and almost no restrictions. Obama and the Dems right now own the problems with health care, the best thing for Trump is to let them keep it by doing NOTHING.

    If Trump signs ANYTHING relating to Obamacare and healthcare, suddenly he and the GOP congress own the dysfunctional healthcare system the way Obama and the Dems do now

    Today Congressman Tom McClintock, the leading right-wing Republican in California, made the same point:

    “We’d better be sure that we’re prepared to live with the market we’ve created” with repeal, said Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.). “That’s going to be called Trumpcare. Republicans will own that lock, stock and barrel”

    I offered a way out for Trump:

    Best thing for Trump would be to make a list of demands that neither the GOP nor the Dems in congress will agree to and move on.

    McClintock is also on board with this, saying:

    “The fact is, we cannot repeal Obamacare through reconciliation,”

    Translated to English, this means any “Obamacare repeal” must get 60 votes in the Senate, which will never happen because 0 Democrats would vote for it. (Dem Joe Manchin in WV loves Sessions and supports much of the Trump agenda. He does not support Paul Ryan’s plan to screw over the people of his state to make the Koch Brothers richer.)

    McClintock is capable of speaking in plain English, but can’t directly say “Keep the ACA” due to the misinformation about it spread by the Koch network, so he just puts impossible conditions on repeal.

    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Does Obamacare function adequately? I receive an impression from skimming the news that it is a mess.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    I'm guessing you didn't see Trump's speech at the Republican retreat in Philadelphia this week. He acknowledged that, politically, the smart thing to do would be nothing, and that if they did nothing, the ACA would collapse within two years. But then he said that it wouldn't be right for them not to fix it, so he wanted to fix it.

    If I were Trump, before replacing Obamacare, I'd focus on steps to make healthcare more affordable. Why not increase the supply of physicians, by loaning or giving medical schools money to expand, and similarly encouraging hospitals to increase their number of clerkships, internships, and residencies accordingly? Tom Price, MD may not suggest that, but supply and demand ought to work in healthcare as in other fields, I'd think.
    , @Almost Missouri
    I've seen no evidence that Trump voters like Obamacare.

    Even if it were politically smart to leave ACA in place despite its unpopularity, how long can the Repubs plausibly claim to be unable to do anything about it when they're in their seventh year of House majority, their third year of Senate majority, and now have the White House? (Hint: normal people don't care about cloture.)

    Eventually this thing is going to hang around Republican necks too. They may as well have it hung for something they did rather than something they didn't do.
    , @Seamus Padraig

    Translated to English, this means any “Obamacare repeal” must get 60 votes in the Senate, which will never happen because 0 Democrats would vote for it.
     
    Not necessarily. All the Senate Majority Leader has to do is get the Senate Rules Committee to scrap fillibuster, and then only 50 votes (plus the Vice President) are needed. Look up 'nuclear option'.
    , @RonaldB
    As Dave Pinson points out, it is simply irresponsible to maintain the ACA, even if politically risky.

    There are major fixes that can be made, particularly in extending competition between states. But, part of the problem is that health care, like everything else, is a finite resource and has to involve trade-offs. Traditionally, public services deteriorate because the politically-appointed decision-makers cannot make decisions.

    Any viable health care system will provide a basic health availability, with expensive or unusual treatments going to those with the resources or foresight to pay for private insurance. Any attempt to cover everyone for everything will involve the system in corruption, waste, and bankruptcy.

    So, any alternative to ACA act will involve denying some care to some people. It's a simple application of economics, like the law of gravity. You can't legislate it away or find free market substitute.
    , @Forbes
    When you're in charge, you fix the problem. You don't let it continue to fail into a disaster and blame it on the other guy. It's called leadership.

    Obamacare is the complete opposite of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
  22. @anon
    Rape, my foot. They very much wanted to partake the hot sausages. Why else would they go to a place filled with football players and alcohol. They are just trying to dig some gold now.

    Exhibit #1: That lovely little clip; Illustrates the intensity of the forbidden fruit in all of two minutes.

    “They are just trying to dig some gold now.”

    I don’t think college players have much dough.

    For most of them, college will be their last good time.

  23. @Lot
    I am pleased to see Trump and some of the smarter House and Senate Republicans moving away from Ryan/Koch plan to destroy Trump and the party by repealing the ACA.

    Eight days ago here I posted:


    Even if Trump improves the system, he’s never going to give America what it actually wants: free high quality healthcare for everyone with no tax increases and almost no restrictions. Obama and the Dems right now own the problems with health care, the best thing for Trump is to let them keep it by doing NOTHING.

    If Trump signs ANYTHING relating to Obamacare and healthcare, suddenly he and the GOP congress own the dysfunctional healthcare system the way Obama and the Dems do now

     

    Today Congressman Tom McClintock, the leading right-wing Republican in California, made the same point:

    “We’d better be sure that we’re prepared to live with the market we’ve created” with repeal, said Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.). “That’s going to be called Trumpcare. Republicans will own that lock, stock and barrel"
     
    I offered a way out for Trump:

    Best thing for Trump would be to make a list of demands that neither the GOP nor the Dems in congress will agree to and move on.
     
    McClintock is also on board with this, saying:

    “The fact is, we cannot repeal Obamacare through reconciliation,”
     
    Translated to English, this means any "Obamacare repeal" must get 60 votes in the Senate, which will never happen because 0 Democrats would vote for it. (Dem Joe Manchin in WV loves Sessions and supports much of the Trump agenda. He does not support Paul Ryan's plan to screw over the people of his state to make the Koch Brothers richer.)

    McClintock is capable of speaking in plain English, but can't directly say "Keep the ACA" due to the misinformation about it spread by the Koch network, so he just puts impossible conditions on repeal.

    Does Obamacare function adequately? I receive an impression from skimming the news that it is a mess.

    • Replies: @Lot
    "Adequate" is a matter of opinion, but the number of employed adults without health insurance is down more than 50% after rising every single year before the ACA was passed. Medical bankruptcies are also down significantly.
  24. I’ve told this story here before, but I’ll repeat it now.

    In Eugene, Oregon, in 1975, there was a decathlon competition among competitors from the USA, USSR and Poland. I was a Slavic-language graduate student who could speak Russian and Polish, and so I was asked to serve as an interpreter. I spent about a week with the Soviet and Polish teams.

    During that time, I observed the sexual opportunities that these world-class athletes enjoyed.

    A few extremely beautiful coeds were associated with the UO athletic department. They wore department shirts and interacted with department staff. I saw that each Polish athlete got to spend a night with one of these coeds, if he wanted to do so. The athletes bragged about it on the following mornings.

    In addition, various local girls came onto these athletes. I knew some of the girls, because they studied the Russian language at the university. They wanted to spend time with the Russian athletes to practice their Russian. The Russians said, basically, that they were interested in spending such time only if the girls agreed in advance to have sex with them. Some of those coeds agreed, and some did not.

    Some of the eager girls did not study Russian or Polish, but they wanted to spend time with the athletes. A couple of local girls invited me and the Polish team’s trainer to their home for a spaghetti dinner. They were insulted that we did not bring wine, and we did not get anywhere with them. I was married, and the Polish trainer was shy.

    Anyway, I saw that top athletes enjoy continual sexual opportunities that ordinary guys can only fantasize about.

    Bruce Jenner won that competition. I interpreted for him. I remember seeing his gorgeous wife Chrissie weeping and running toward joyfully him as he won the last race. I took an interest in her and paid attention as his divorce was reported in the tabloids during the following years. She blamed herself for the divorce, saying that she was frigid.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    When you originally told the story, you mentioned it was the year 1973. Not 1975...........

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-baffled-by-lack-of-attention-to-vanderbilt-gang-rape/#comment-861394
    , @RonaldB
    I'm not sure what your point is.

    One possible conclusion from your story is that the athletes involved were simply thugs who could have had sex with a minimum of charm and effort, but who were unwilling or unable to put off sex until they actually obtained the consent of their partner.

    One cannot entirely discount the possibility that the woman initiating the lawsuit is simply a gold-digger, looking for attention or some unearned revenue. It's happened before. I'm not totally comfortable with filing charges or bringing legal damages against people based on allegations by women concerning events that happened years ago that they did not speak about at the time. I think the best treatment of these charges is a public airing focused on potential donors and parents of prospective students, who may want to rethink their concept of the value of this particular exclusive school.
    , @anon
    This type of behavior is commonplace with Olympic type athletes. When the Paki Cricketer Imran Khan was touring England, Australia, New Zealand etc., there were lines of young women who "wanted to have his baby". May be someday when genetic archaeologists do their DNA tests, they will find out Imran Khan has as many descendants as Genghis Khan.
  25. @Lot
    I am pleased to see Trump and some of the smarter House and Senate Republicans moving away from Ryan/Koch plan to destroy Trump and the party by repealing the ACA.

    Eight days ago here I posted:


    Even if Trump improves the system, he’s never going to give America what it actually wants: free high quality healthcare for everyone with no tax increases and almost no restrictions. Obama and the Dems right now own the problems with health care, the best thing for Trump is to let them keep it by doing NOTHING.

    If Trump signs ANYTHING relating to Obamacare and healthcare, suddenly he and the GOP congress own the dysfunctional healthcare system the way Obama and the Dems do now

     

    Today Congressman Tom McClintock, the leading right-wing Republican in California, made the same point:

    “We’d better be sure that we’re prepared to live with the market we’ve created” with repeal, said Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.). “That’s going to be called Trumpcare. Republicans will own that lock, stock and barrel"
     
    I offered a way out for Trump:

    Best thing for Trump would be to make a list of demands that neither the GOP nor the Dems in congress will agree to and move on.
     
    McClintock is also on board with this, saying:

    “The fact is, we cannot repeal Obamacare through reconciliation,”
     
    Translated to English, this means any "Obamacare repeal" must get 60 votes in the Senate, which will never happen because 0 Democrats would vote for it. (Dem Joe Manchin in WV loves Sessions and supports much of the Trump agenda. He does not support Paul Ryan's plan to screw over the people of his state to make the Koch Brothers richer.)

    McClintock is capable of speaking in plain English, but can't directly say "Keep the ACA" due to the misinformation about it spread by the Koch network, so he just puts impossible conditions on repeal.

    I’m guessing you didn’t see Trump’s speech at the Republican retreat in Philadelphia this week. He acknowledged that, politically, the smart thing to do would be nothing, and that if they did nothing, the ACA would collapse within two years. But then he said that it wouldn’t be right for them not to fix it, so he wanted to fix it.

    If I were Trump, before replacing Obamacare, I’d focus on steps to make healthcare more affordable. Why not increase the supply of physicians, by loaning or giving medical schools money to expand, and similarly encouraging hospitals to increase their number of clerkships, internships, and residencies accordingly? Tom Price, MD may not suggest that, but supply and demand ought to work in healthcare as in other fields, I’d think.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Expanding the number of physicians is an excellent idea. So is Trump's proposal to negotiate drug prices. Right now Medicare is the largest buyer of drugs in the world and does not negotiate prices at all. Much smaller systems are able to get lower prices.
    , @donut
    "Why not increase the supply of physicians, by loaning or giving medical schools money to expand, and similarly encouraging hospitals to increase their number of clerkship's, internships, and residencies accordingly?"

    From own experience the profession is already swamped with Indians , Pakis , Africans and Asians . The Indian physician is a cliche . That's the way the industry is increasing the supply of MDs. As doctors they range from very good to dangerous just like our own home grown doctors do . The Indian/Paki and Arab doctors do seem to specialize in Medicare fraud more than the American docs but maybe they just get caught more often .
    I think one of the biggest obstacles to affordable health care is the insurance industry which really got rolling in the middle of the last century . Before that the patient paid . Now unless you are rich a week in the hospital will put you in the poor house and boy do they pad the bill . Insurance is a racket , they drive the prices up until you can't see a doctor without insurance and now we can't afford either the doctor or the insurance . What service exactly do they provide for all that money ?
    As of the present there isn't widespread insurance for animals but they are trying to weasel their way in there too . You have a pet that needs to see the vet. you can afford it , it might sting but you can pay out of pocket . In the 90's I had a dog that needed orthopedic Sx. on her knee . 650-700 bucks and she got spade at the same time , In NYC. A human would probably have to pay more than that for an office visit and a pre-op workup .
    But as I see it the whole healthcare industry is irrational and and beyond fixing , just another one of societies institutions heading for collapse . All my hopes are riding on a fatal heart attack just about the time my money runs out . 2-5 more years maybe . I just pray that I outlive my car .
    , @Almost Missouri
    Yeah, the original idea that Obamacare was going to make healthcare more affordable when it only increased the number of bureaucrats and tax-collectors while leaving actual healthcare providers unchanged or even reduced, was ludicrous on its face.

    More providers, more insurers, fewer mandates and more competition will actually reduce healthcare costs. It's not rocket science.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    The effective supply of doctors has already been increased with PAs and NPs, which expand the number of patients per doctor that clinics can serve. It hasn't controlled costs. A lot of doctors are not making that much anyhow.

    In the end, the only effective way to control costs will be to deny and delay services. People just haven't accepted this yet.
    , @Felix..
    Physician salaries account for less than 10% of healthcare costs. If you cut their salaries in half, you will completely destroy the profession while achieving an "incredible" 5% reduction in healthcare spending. At the annual rate of growth in healthcare spending of 3%, these "savings" will be eaten up in less than 2 years.

    On the other hand, you will be left with a decrepit system where the people doing the work are completely demoralized, and the only people entering medical schools are retards who don't realize that going $300k into debt and working for free for the first decade of their post-college life to get a $100k salary at the end for horrendous work hours in the most stressful of conditions is the worst deal in the history of bad deals.

  26. “Baylor, a Baptist university in Waco, Texas, failed to finish the season in the top 25 college football teams in the country from 1987 to 2010. But then it upgraded its program and was ranked four out of the next five seasons.

    How’d they do it?”

    By lowering their standards to allow more blacks to enroll.

  27. Anonymous [AKA "The Philospher"] says:

    Ken Starr, Baylor President, also resigned over the scandal for suppressing suits and buying off women.

    Follow his history. He is a consummate deep state groom. Foreign policy fraternity at college, clerking with DC judge, married to a jew (like Dimon), defended Jerry Epstein against paedophilia charges and moved to defend Blackwater mercenaries for murders in Iraq.

    The man is a piece of the swamp. The constellation.

    He is probably a psychopath.

    I’ve seen too many of these bios that remind me a bit of Allen Dulles. Read the Devil’s Chessboard. Its the greatest historical work of the past half century. 700 pages with 70 pages of citations, references and actual interviews with relatives of the deep state operatives.

    • Replies: @res
    That much about Ken Starr and you don't mention Bill Clinton? Interesting.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Starr
    , @Old fogey
    Thanks for recommending "The Devil's Chessboard;" I'll be picking up a copy.
    , @Alex123
    I remember when he "failed" to find anything wrong with Clinton. Remember that scene in "The Life of Brian"? The sergeant said "found this spoon, sir!" LOL!
  28. Art Briles should get the death penalty.

    A lot of the 52 women will have powerful dads. He may be lucky to be alive after a year actually even outside of prison.

    Ken Starr will then represent him and get him 12 months comm service after leaning on his judge buddy in return for millions in an offshore account or some bullshit deal where he points the finger on some of the players and gets a fine.

    Steve, since the justice system is morbidly corrupt at this point in America, what do you think about vigilantism?

    • Replies: @RonaldB
    You sound like a troll to me. You're trying to get Steve to sign onto a specific advocacy of illegal, vigilante violence against a specific person. And you're referring to the extra-legal exploits of Allen Dulles. But, it's the same principle: the use of illegal violence.
    , @bomag

    what do you think about vigilantism?
     
    Peace and social order are pretty valuable in this day and age, to the point where TPTB throw one of their own under the bus once in a while for maintenance purposes. But things could go too far one day, and then we have Iraq/Syria/Libya et al for an example.
    , @Truth

    Art Briles should get the death penalty.
     
    LOL; the bar is gettin' kinda' low, ain't it?
  29. @guest
    I don't see why they connect the "culture" (my,what an abused term) of "show 'em a good time" to rape. There are plenty of young women willing to have sex for money, if you're looking to show people a good time.

    Rape is more a result of a "look the other way" "culture."

    It’s more that dudes to want to be shown a good time (by a third party procurer) are also likely to be rapists.

  30. @Dave Pinsen
    An opportunity for Rolling Stone and Sabrina Rubin Erdely to redeem themselves: write about this.

    Oh sure, let the ‘controlled media’ get ahold of this. They’ll play fast and loose with the facts and reverse the races. A ratings bonanza! Oh yeah, I can hardly wait.

  31. @Dave Pinsen
    I'm guessing you didn't see Trump's speech at the Republican retreat in Philadelphia this week. He acknowledged that, politically, the smart thing to do would be nothing, and that if they did nothing, the ACA would collapse within two years. But then he said that it wouldn't be right for them not to fix it, so he wanted to fix it.

    If I were Trump, before replacing Obamacare, I'd focus on steps to make healthcare more affordable. Why not increase the supply of physicians, by loaning or giving medical schools money to expand, and similarly encouraging hospitals to increase their number of clerkships, internships, and residencies accordingly? Tom Price, MD may not suggest that, but supply and demand ought to work in healthcare as in other fields, I'd think.

    Expanding the number of physicians is an excellent idea. So is Trump’s proposal to negotiate drug prices. Right now Medicare is the largest buyer of drugs in the world and does not negotiate prices at all. Much smaller systems are able to get lower prices.

  32. @Opinionator
    Does Obamacare function adequately? I receive an impression from skimming the news that it is a mess.

    “Adequate” is a matter of opinion, but the number of employed adults without health insurance is down more than 50% after rising every single year before the ACA was passed. Medical bankruptcies are also down significantly.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri

    "the number of employed adults without health insurance is down more than 50%"
     
    That may be because the Obama recession has reduced the number of employed adults altogether, especially at the less insured lower wage scales.

    "Medical bankruptcies are also down significantly."
     
    Maybe because people are going broke from the premiums rather than the expenses now, or because everyone who could go "medically" bankrupt already did so at the start of the recession and since they can't declare bankruptcy again, the gov't can claim that bankruptcies are "down".

    Anyhow, how do they measure "medical" bankruptcies? It's not like there's a different filing for "medical bankruptcy" versus plain old bankruptcy. Most bankruptcies are the result of sustained expenses exceeding income. Expenses usually include food, clothing, shelter, energy, medical, etc. costs, yet we don't hear about "food bankruptcies" or "clothing bankruptcies" even though those costs are certainly part of any personal bankruptcy. Whoever is making this dubious distinction may have an agenda.

    Since the same government that created the Obamacare mess is the one producing the statistics about how well it works, I'm skeptical of the claims.

    Ann Coulter is affluent, as a best selling author, she may be a millionaire on paper, certainly she is at least upper middle class, yet she can't afford Obamacare.

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2017-01-25.html

    Anecdotally, the only non-welfare people I know who are happy with Obamacare are the ones who don't have it. For one reason or another they have some non-Obamacare insurance, but they get a thrill of self-satisfaction from believing that Obamacare is out there "insuring" everyone else, so they don't feel bad about their privilege.
    , @Johann Ricke

    Medical bankruptcies are also down significantly.
     
    I'm curious about medical bankruptcies. I heard from an acquaintance of an acquaintance, that his cardiac operation costing in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, came out to a payment of about $100 a month for decades. He'd have to be Methuselah to pay back in full what he owed. Who files for medical bankruptcy when easy payment plans exist? Is it people who just don't feel like paying?
    , @Forbes
    That's some serious cherry-picking of anecdotes.

    Presumably a government mandate to purchase insurance produces a reduction in the uninsured. That's known as a tautology.

    The allegation regarding medical bankruptcies, especially by Sen. Warren, was highly suspect, and debatable.
  33. Karl Denninger at his Market Ticker makes a great case on what needs to be done with our health system, as in use 100 year anti-trust laws to bust down criminal price fixing .

    • Agree: Old fogey
  34. @Lot
    "Adequate" is a matter of opinion, but the number of employed adults without health insurance is down more than 50% after rising every single year before the ACA was passed. Medical bankruptcies are also down significantly.

    “the number of employed adults without health insurance is down more than 50%”

    That may be because the Obama recession has reduced the number of employed adults altogether, especially at the less insured lower wage scales.

    “Medical bankruptcies are also down significantly.”

    Maybe because people are going broke from the premiums rather than the expenses now, or because everyone who could go “medically” bankrupt already did so at the start of the recession and since they can’t declare bankruptcy again, the gov’t can claim that bankruptcies are “down”.

    Anyhow, how do they measure “medical” bankruptcies? It’s not like there’s a different filing for “medical bankruptcy” versus plain old bankruptcy. Most bankruptcies are the result of sustained expenses exceeding income. Expenses usually include food, clothing, shelter, energy, medical, etc. costs, yet we don’t hear about “food bankruptcies” or “clothing bankruptcies” even though those costs are certainly part of any personal bankruptcy. Whoever is making this dubious distinction may have an agenda.

    Since the same government that created the Obamacare mess is the one producing the statistics about how well it works, I’m skeptical of the claims.

    Ann Coulter is affluent, as a best selling author, she may be a millionaire on paper, certainly she is at least upper middle class, yet she can’t afford Obamacare.

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2017-01-25.html

    Anecdotally, the only non-welfare people I know who are happy with Obamacare are the ones who don’t have it. For one reason or another they have some non-Obamacare insurance, but they get a thrill of self-satisfaction from believing that Obamacare is out there “insuring” everyone else, so they don’t feel bad about their privilege.

    • Replies: @Long Turd
    I'm a self employed small business owner whose been buying insurance on the private market for twenty years. Obamacare is undoubtedly an improvement on what the market looked like before; not that it's Nirvana now but it totally sucked before.
    , @bomag
    Good reply, and it points out that the conversation about health care isn't what it should be. We keep talking "insurance" when it is a funding mechanism for a massive infrastructure and jobs program. Any serious look at health care must have some cost controls, but the Dems did their usual thing where they looked around for some money; found it; and channeled it into the giant sucking maw of health care in the US.
    , @Anonymous
    I know someone who pays $1,700 per month for her family of three (husband, wife, one child), and they have no real medical problems. They also have a very high annual deductible (maybe $5,000).
  35. @dude
    I don't understand the theory behind these lawsuits. Is the idea that if Baylor didn't recruit the players, they wouldn't have raped anyone? More likely, they would have still been rapist, but they would of raped some unfortunate girls who we don't care about so much rather than relatively privileged Baylor students.

    Baylor enabled and facilitated the rapes far beyond the point where they would have happened otherwise, thus they bear some culpability.

    We should guide our high functioning young women into forming and raising families, but we seem to be in an age where we “harvest” them for other purposes; not only as bait for football recruits, but we offer them up to the harem of corporate sterility, Hollywood glamour, etc. This does not look like a path for long term success.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    "corporate sterility". That's pretty good. Those are the women who are actually smart. The Hollywood glamour and football player-chaser types are not the smart ones.

    The girls chasing the football teams are typical liberal power worshipers. They may not even be attracted to the guys but they love being in on the coolest parties and being well-known. Then they get wasted (drunk is too mild a term) and get used, or even raped. I couldn't begin to tell the difference from the outside, but they knew they were playing with fire. That's what made it so much fun.

    Frankly, we either go back to the old, restrictive campus measures, or we brace ourselves to live with this mess. Mixing up lustful men, stupid women, tons of alcohol and drugs, and no supervision and we act all shocked when bad things happen. I'm getting outrage-fatigue with the whole college rape story.
    , @Old fogey
    I blame the feminists for this sad result. They have convinced young women that they basically are as horny as men and that they should - like men have traditionally done - sleep around. The men therefore treat them more like sluts than proper young women - because that is what they have made of themselves - and the women walk around in a quandary wondering why they are so unhappy.
  36. From the linked article:

    [John] Clune, who has represented four Baylor survivors, including two who received settlements with the university, defended the thoroughness of his investigation.

    “We have no idea how the regents came up with their numbers, but they do not represent the total number of assaults,” he said. “I’m not sure that was Pepper’s assignment either.”

    Attorney Clune is alleging at least 52 rapes, including five gang rapes, by 31 football players in a four-year period. (The university is copping to only 17 rapes or “domestic assaults” involving 19 players, including 4 gang rapes, since 2011.)

    It sounds like this Clune guy knows where the bodies are metaphorically buried and is prepared to make a big payday out of it.

    Don’t lay any wagers in favor of Baylor football.

    • Replies: @Pericles

    represented four Baylor survivors
     
    "Survivors"? Is that what we once used to call "graduates"?
  37. @Anon 2
    OT: Hiring freezes have been instituted at
    many colleges and universities in Missouri,
    Nebraska, and Connecticut. Missouri is the
    latest example. After the famous 2015 racial unrest
    at the University of Missouri in Columbia, which produced
    a 25% budget drop, the whole university system is now
    facing a severe budget cutback under the new Republican
    governor Eric Greitens.

    As someone who is based in academia, I have seen the
    salaries of the presidents, provosts, deans, coaches,
    department chairs, and administrators reach astronomical
    levels while the faculty salaries have been low and largely
    stagnant. There is plenty of money for diversity budgets,
    white privilege workshops, women's studies, and black studies
    while science, technology, and engineering departments are
    continually struggling with budget shortfalls. There is so much
    waste in the state university systems I wouldn't even know where
    to begin. Hopefully, as a result of the massive hiring freezes many
    of the frivolous degree programs will be eliminated.

    There is so muchwaste in the state university systems I wouldn’t even know where to begin. </blockquote

    Amen. And among the other rackets, let's note the foreign student recruitment racket, and the eagerness to fill bloated faculty and staff positions with foreigners to burnish the diversity cred. Couple this with their well-noted tendency to turn out hyper-sensitive SJW snowflakes, and the places are becoming a blight on our society.

  38. How many of 52 were taken against their will? I would bet 0.

  39. Anonymous [AKA "Frank Gael"] says:

    What do you call a man who eagerly offers up his women? A cuck.

    Name what you notice. Always call it Baylor Cuckball from now on.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    Certainly a fresh take on 'in loco parentis'.
  40. @Dave Pinsen
    I'm guessing you didn't see Trump's speech at the Republican retreat in Philadelphia this week. He acknowledged that, politically, the smart thing to do would be nothing, and that if they did nothing, the ACA would collapse within two years. But then he said that it wouldn't be right for them not to fix it, so he wanted to fix it.

    If I were Trump, before replacing Obamacare, I'd focus on steps to make healthcare more affordable. Why not increase the supply of physicians, by loaning or giving medical schools money to expand, and similarly encouraging hospitals to increase their number of clerkships, internships, and residencies accordingly? Tom Price, MD may not suggest that, but supply and demand ought to work in healthcare as in other fields, I'd think.

    “Why not increase the supply of physicians, by loaning or giving medical schools money to expand, and similarly encouraging hospitals to increase their number of clerkship’s, internships, and residencies accordingly?”

    From own experience the profession is already swamped with Indians , Pakis , Africans and Asians . The Indian physician is a cliche . That’s the way the industry is increasing the supply of MDs. As doctors they range from very good to dangerous just like our own home grown doctors do . The Indian/Paki and Arab doctors do seem to specialize in Medicare fraud more than the American docs but maybe they just get caught more often .
    I think one of the biggest obstacles to affordable health care is the insurance industry which really got rolling in the middle of the last century . Before that the patient paid . Now unless you are rich a week in the hospital will put you in the poor house and boy do they pad the bill . Insurance is a racket , they drive the prices up until you can’t see a doctor without insurance and now we can’t afford either the doctor or the insurance . What service exactly do they provide for all that money ?
    As of the present there isn’t widespread insurance for animals but they are trying to weasel their way in there too . You have a pet that needs to see the vet. you can afford it , it might sting but you can pay out of pocket . In the 90’s I had a dog that needed orthopedic Sx. on her knee . 650-700 bucks and she got spade at the same time , In NYC. A human would probably have to pay more than that for an office visit and a pre-op workup .
    But as I see it the whole healthcare industry is irrational and and beyond fixing , just another one of societies institutions heading for collapse . All my hopes are riding on a fatal heart attack just about the time my money runs out . 2-5 more years maybe . I just pray that I outlive my car .

    • Replies: @Anon7
    The veterinary medicine racket is amazing. My family's "free" barn cat was bitten by another animal, and the total cost was $1,200. They're learning fast.

    I'd also point out that (based on my observations of my friend's daughter, currently in vet school) at least 80 percent of veterinary medicine students are female. They know a racket when they see one. Ten percent of the pressure of med school, and 100 percent of the money that pediatricians make. Smart.
    , @ScarletNumber

    she got spade
     
    David?
    , @RonaldB
    I have a couple of observations on your comment.

    Medicine, as elsewhere, involves trade-offs.

    I have had a heart valve replacement. The skill of the surgeons, physicians, and staff involved, not to mention the sophisticated equipment and devices involved, simply can't be inexpensive. This is not something you can pay for without insurance, or without pretty much bankrupting your savings. I would, on the other hand, be perfectly satisfied with catastrophe insurance, with a $10,000 or so deductible.

    I do think there is likely collusion between the medical industry and the insurance industry to stifle any real competition in medical care. For instance, the use of nurse-practitioners or physicians assistants, who are perfectly capable of providing basic care and prescriptions. What we have now is a very expensive system which is totally risk-adverse. You pay for the reduction of risk. It's an application of the 80-20 rule: you pay 80% of the expense for the last 20% of the risk. But, the extreme cases get the bulk of publicity. I don't know if it's simply the nature of the news, or a calculated campaign to promote government-mandated insurance.
    , @Diversity Heretic
    You must survive to become a burden to the taxpayers--every citizen's highest duty!

    Don't die too soon--lots of us will miss your comments!
    , @dc.sunsets
    Karl Denninger offers the most insightful explanation for why the medical services industry is a disaster.

    Look him up market-ticker.org
    , @vinteuil
    So, donut - you're not just a nut, after all.

    Interesting comment.
    , @Mark Caplan

    one of the biggest obstacles to affordable health care is the insurance industry, which really got rolling in the middle of the last century. [...] Insurance is a racket, they drive the prices up.
     
    Advances in other industries drive down costs. Advances in medicine drive up costs: coronary artery bypasses, organ transplants, targeted genetic therapies, exotic drugs, chemotherapy, hip and knee replacements, CAT scans, MRIs. Those advances weren't routinely available in the middle of the last century.
  41. @Mike Sylwester
    I've told this story here before, but I'll repeat it now.

    In Eugene, Oregon, in 1975, there was a decathlon competition among competitors from the USA, USSR and Poland. I was a Slavic-language graduate student who could speak Russian and Polish, and so I was asked to serve as an interpreter. I spent about a week with the Soviet and Polish teams.

    During that time, I observed the sexual opportunities that these world-class athletes enjoyed.

    A few extremely beautiful coeds were associated with the UO athletic department. They wore department shirts and interacted with department staff. I saw that each Polish athlete got to spend a night with one of these coeds, if he wanted to do so. The athletes bragged about it on the following mornings.

    In addition, various local girls came onto these athletes. I knew some of the girls, because they studied the Russian language at the university. They wanted to spend time with the Russian athletes to practice their Russian. The Russians said, basically, that they were interested in spending such time only if the girls agreed in advance to have sex with them. Some of those coeds agreed, and some did not.

    Some of the eager girls did not study Russian or Polish, but they wanted to spend time with the athletes. A couple of local girls invited me and the Polish team's trainer to their home for a spaghetti dinner. They were insulted that we did not bring wine, and we did not get anywhere with them. I was married, and the Polish trainer was shy.

    Anyway, I saw that top athletes enjoy continual sexual opportunities that ordinary guys can only fantasize about.

    Bruce Jenner won that competition. I interpreted for him. I remember seeing his gorgeous wife Chrissie weeping and running toward joyfully him as he won the last race. I took an interest in her and paid attention as his divorce was reported in the tabloids during the following years. She blamed herself for the divorce, saying that she was frigid.

    When you originally told the story, you mentioned it was the year 1973. Not 1975………..

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-baffled-by-lack-of-attention-to-vanderbilt-gang-rape/#comment-861394

    • Replies: @Mike Sylwester

    When you originally told the story, you mentioned it was the year 1973.
     
    According to the Wikipedia article on Caitlin Jenner, he broke the decathlon world record at a Soviet-Polish-USA competition in Eugene in August 1975. That's where I got the 1975 date for my above comment.

    So, the 1973 date in my previous comment was a mistake. I was a graduate student at the University of Oregon during 1973-1975. I was single in 1973, so I mis-remembered that point of the above comment too. It was more than 40 years ago.
  42. @Lot
    I am pleased to see Trump and some of the smarter House and Senate Republicans moving away from Ryan/Koch plan to destroy Trump and the party by repealing the ACA.

    Eight days ago here I posted:


    Even if Trump improves the system, he’s never going to give America what it actually wants: free high quality healthcare for everyone with no tax increases and almost no restrictions. Obama and the Dems right now own the problems with health care, the best thing for Trump is to let them keep it by doing NOTHING.

    If Trump signs ANYTHING relating to Obamacare and healthcare, suddenly he and the GOP congress own the dysfunctional healthcare system the way Obama and the Dems do now

     

    Today Congressman Tom McClintock, the leading right-wing Republican in California, made the same point:

    “We’d better be sure that we’re prepared to live with the market we’ve created” with repeal, said Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.). “That’s going to be called Trumpcare. Republicans will own that lock, stock and barrel"
     
    I offered a way out for Trump:

    Best thing for Trump would be to make a list of demands that neither the GOP nor the Dems in congress will agree to and move on.
     
    McClintock is also on board with this, saying:

    “The fact is, we cannot repeal Obamacare through reconciliation,”
     
    Translated to English, this means any "Obamacare repeal" must get 60 votes in the Senate, which will never happen because 0 Democrats would vote for it. (Dem Joe Manchin in WV loves Sessions and supports much of the Trump agenda. He does not support Paul Ryan's plan to screw over the people of his state to make the Koch Brothers richer.)

    McClintock is capable of speaking in plain English, but can't directly say "Keep the ACA" due to the misinformation about it spread by the Koch network, so he just puts impossible conditions on repeal.

    I’ve seen no evidence that Trump voters like Obamacare.

    Even if it were politically smart to leave ACA in place despite its unpopularity, how long can the Repubs plausibly claim to be unable to do anything about it when they’re in their seventh year of House majority, their third year of Senate majority, and now have the White House? (Hint: normal people don’t care about cloture.)

    Eventually this thing is going to hang around Republican necks too. They may as well have it hung for something they did rather than something they didn’t do.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    "They may as well have it hung for something they did rather than something they didn’t do."

    Agreed. Obamacare has been a gigantic train-wreck. Quite possibly even worse than the insane system (or lack thereof) that preceded it.
    , @Lot

    I’ve seen no evidence that Trump voters like Obamacare.
     
    Yeah, because Americans believe they are entitled to cheap affordable high quality health care as long as they are not lazy bums and have a job. Not an unreasonable position, every other advanced economy has a universal system.

    Replace Obamacare, it will be even worse, and hung around the necks of the GOP and Trump. Goodbye 2020.
    , @Forbes
    One problem with Obamacare is that it is not insurance. It's socialized pre-paid medical care expenses which cover regular and customary visits to providers. Insurance is for pooling known risks of unknown provenance, e.g. care for accidents, illness and surgery.

    Instead, Obamacare mandates (for me) include maternity care and pediatric dental care--neither of which I can utilize. It is social policy masquerading as insurance. Additionally, 'free preventive care' isn't free unless providers volunteer their services (which isn't happening). These and myriad other distortions pervert reimbursement rates, costs, et al.

    If you want to fix health care costs, then consumers need be empowered to control expenditures with choice and options--not mandate a one-size-fits-all approach from Washington.
  43. If you watch college sports, or spend money to send your children (or yourself) to one of these degree mills, you ought to be ashamed of yourself.

    • Replies: @Truth

    If you watch college sports, or spend money to send your children (or yourself) to one of these degree mills, you ought to be ashamed of yourself.
     
    Yeah, make em' all journeyman plumbers!
  44. @Dave Pinsen
    I'm guessing you didn't see Trump's speech at the Republican retreat in Philadelphia this week. He acknowledged that, politically, the smart thing to do would be nothing, and that if they did nothing, the ACA would collapse within two years. But then he said that it wouldn't be right for them not to fix it, so he wanted to fix it.

    If I were Trump, before replacing Obamacare, I'd focus on steps to make healthcare more affordable. Why not increase the supply of physicians, by loaning or giving medical schools money to expand, and similarly encouraging hospitals to increase their number of clerkships, internships, and residencies accordingly? Tom Price, MD may not suggest that, but supply and demand ought to work in healthcare as in other fields, I'd think.

    Yeah, the original idea that Obamacare was going to make healthcare more affordable when it only increased the number of bureaucrats and tax-collectors while leaving actual healthcare providers unchanged or even reduced, was ludicrous on its face.

    More providers, more insurers, fewer mandates and more competition will actually reduce healthcare costs. It’s not rocket science.

    • Replies: @Long Turd
    The easiest way to reduce healthcare costs is to reduce healthcare. That's the solution or the problem depending on your goal.
  45. Southern Methodist University (SMU) up the road in Dallas, did the same thing in the early 80’s. Liberties with coeds was one of their selling points along with cash and cars. It was the Eric Dickerson era and SMU went from perennial dog to powerhouse almost overnight. It ended badly with the imposition of the so called “Death penalty” for a couple of years and the program never recovered.

  46. By the way, from my experience, a lot of these athletes don’t do as well with women as you’d think. At the same time, they tend to be very sexually aggressive and have a huge sense of sexual entitlement. They think every girl should be sleeping with them and that they should be stars on campus.

    My guess is that a lot of rapes are a product of this attitude.

    With perhaps the exception of true star athlete (the type of guy who goes in the first couple rounds of the draft), a lot of athletes don’t get the type of attention they want (and believe they deserve).

    One last point. Contrary to what you may read on here, most girls don’t prefer blacks in their dating/sexual lives. It’s generally a lot easier for a white athlete than a black athlete. That’s at least one factor in why blacks commit a lot more rapes.

    • Replies: @Marty T
    Yeah, it seems to me that on average, white baseball and lacrosse players get much higher quality women than the black athletes. Sure, a superstar like Jameis will do well, but she'll protest when he tries to hand her off to backup linebacker Quantravious.
  47. @Almost Missouri

    "the number of employed adults without health insurance is down more than 50%"
     
    That may be because the Obama recession has reduced the number of employed adults altogether, especially at the less insured lower wage scales.

    "Medical bankruptcies are also down significantly."
     
    Maybe because people are going broke from the premiums rather than the expenses now, or because everyone who could go "medically" bankrupt already did so at the start of the recession and since they can't declare bankruptcy again, the gov't can claim that bankruptcies are "down".

    Anyhow, how do they measure "medical" bankruptcies? It's not like there's a different filing for "medical bankruptcy" versus plain old bankruptcy. Most bankruptcies are the result of sustained expenses exceeding income. Expenses usually include food, clothing, shelter, energy, medical, etc. costs, yet we don't hear about "food bankruptcies" or "clothing bankruptcies" even though those costs are certainly part of any personal bankruptcy. Whoever is making this dubious distinction may have an agenda.

    Since the same government that created the Obamacare mess is the one producing the statistics about how well it works, I'm skeptical of the claims.

    Ann Coulter is affluent, as a best selling author, she may be a millionaire on paper, certainly she is at least upper middle class, yet she can't afford Obamacare.

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2017-01-25.html

    Anecdotally, the only non-welfare people I know who are happy with Obamacare are the ones who don't have it. For one reason or another they have some non-Obamacare insurance, but they get a thrill of self-satisfaction from believing that Obamacare is out there "insuring" everyone else, so they don't feel bad about their privilege.

    I’m a self employed small business owner whose been buying insurance on the private market for twenty years. Obamacare is undoubtedly an improvement on what the market looked like before; not that it’s Nirvana now but it totally sucked before.

  48. Disgusting, embarrassing.

    When is there going to be some college presidents or board of trustees who are willing to stand up for their mission. Sure it’s difficult because of “racist!” and, of course, all the money. But, be a man or woman and do your job–stand up and pull the plug on this nonsense.

    You can join the University of Chicago in being a university.

    Or if intercollegiate athletics is a part of the culture you want to keep, then form a league with other like minded colleges and universities, that you won’t recruit–no reduced admission standards, no promised scholarships. You’ll simply have tryouts for teams from the actual student body. Could offer the ones that make it “scholarships” that are essentially the same as other campus jobs.

    Better, i’d say is a culture of intramural sports. Let the co-eds root on the atheletic guys playing each other. Or play co-ed intramural softball with them. Either way they are at least association with young men who are appropriate husbands for them. That’s what a young woman’s beauty is best used for–landing a guy who has high husband\father potential. Not as a t-and-a fishing lure to get some thug to bite on a recruitment pitch.

    The pathetic, cucked, go-along-get-along nature of supposed white “adults” is embarrasing. Take a stand for civilization.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    "You can join the University of Chicago in being a university."

    Studied there, as an under-graduate, 1976-8. Taught there, as a Schmidt Fellow, 1994-7.

    Yeah, it was a real university, with lotsa serious stuff going on, and not much sports-worship.

    It was also insanely gay & jewish.

    Straight gentile males were not much in evidence.

    Sports-worship is pretty much the religion of straight gentile males. Give them a jock to sniff, and many of them are yours for life.
    , @Hibernian
    "You can join the University of Chicago in being a university.

    Or if intercollegiate athletics is a part of the culture you want to keep, then form a league with other like minded colleges and universities, that you won’t recruit–no reduced admission standards, no promised scholarships."

    The U of C has NCAA Division 3 football and basketball and is in a conference with like minded schools including Carnegie-Mellon and Case Western.
    , @Dissident
    Good points.

    Also, wasn't it "racist" on the part of the recruiter quoted to assume that Black male athletes are interested specifically in white women?

    To say nothing of the revealed preference of so many black males for white females. (Yeah, I know, that would seem to be one of those things that we are not supposed to notice...)
    , @EdwardM
    In addition to Division III, which someone mentioned below, the Ivy League works this way. They do some recruiting, and lowering academic standards a bit, but don't offer athletic scholarships (or any "merit" scholarships). At least in theory: I don't know whether they have certain boosters or other independent means to grease the wheels for athletes.

    The athletes in major sports do tend to congregate in fraternities, etc. at some schools. But it's closer to the original collegiate ideal than the rotten big sports schools.
  49. 52 acts of rape, including five gang rapes, between 2011 and 2014 — an estimate that far exceeds the number previously provided by school officials.

    Unless there were 52 men indicted and convicted, there weren’t 52 rapes. Keep in mind this is a lawsuit where someone is looking to cash in, so they want to make things seem as dire as possible.
    Rape is a word that has (thanks to feminists) become extremely devalued and doesn’t actually mean “rape” anymore.

    • Replies: @Ted Bell
    I was just about to write something similar. When I see criminal charges start getting filed, I'll take it more seriously. If someone were to rape my wife, assuming I didn't hunt him down myself, (which I would) we'd go to the police, not to a lawyer. Filing civil lawsuits for violent crimes makes me think more of Haven Monahan than of Jack the Ripper.

    On a different note, it's time we do something about the Doe family. They're clearly the most litigious people on earth. This is the first time I've heard of Elizabeth suing anyone. But I read about another lawsuit by John or Jane every day.
    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    "Unless there were 52 men indicted and convicted, there weren’t 52 rapes. "

    Do you mean to say that one man is incapable of committing more than one rape? You completely discredit the validity of the remainder of your post with that one I' m sorry to say.
  50. @Almost Missouri

    "the number of employed adults without health insurance is down more than 50%"
     
    That may be because the Obama recession has reduced the number of employed adults altogether, especially at the less insured lower wage scales.

    "Medical bankruptcies are also down significantly."
     
    Maybe because people are going broke from the premiums rather than the expenses now, or because everyone who could go "medically" bankrupt already did so at the start of the recession and since they can't declare bankruptcy again, the gov't can claim that bankruptcies are "down".

    Anyhow, how do they measure "medical" bankruptcies? It's not like there's a different filing for "medical bankruptcy" versus plain old bankruptcy. Most bankruptcies are the result of sustained expenses exceeding income. Expenses usually include food, clothing, shelter, energy, medical, etc. costs, yet we don't hear about "food bankruptcies" or "clothing bankruptcies" even though those costs are certainly part of any personal bankruptcy. Whoever is making this dubious distinction may have an agenda.

    Since the same government that created the Obamacare mess is the one producing the statistics about how well it works, I'm skeptical of the claims.

    Ann Coulter is affluent, as a best selling author, she may be a millionaire on paper, certainly she is at least upper middle class, yet she can't afford Obamacare.

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2017-01-25.html

    Anecdotally, the only non-welfare people I know who are happy with Obamacare are the ones who don't have it. For one reason or another they have some non-Obamacare insurance, but they get a thrill of self-satisfaction from believing that Obamacare is out there "insuring" everyone else, so they don't feel bad about their privilege.

    Good reply, and it points out that the conversation about health care isn’t what it should be. We keep talking “insurance” when it is a funding mechanism for a massive infrastructure and jobs program. Any serious look at health care must have some cost controls, but the Dems did their usual thing where they looked around for some money; found it; and channeled it into the giant sucking maw of health care in the US.

    • Agree: Forbes
  51. @bomag
    We tsked tsked over England's Rotherham scandal, where officials there offered up the native girls to Pakistani rape gangs.

    Glad that doesn't happen here.

    Oh, wait...

    David P. Goldman (AKA “Spengler”) has observed that the last thing a beaten civilization does is sell its women.

    At the Rotherhams of the West, the payment was merely avoiding inconvenience. At the Baylors of the West, the payment was merely sport stats.

  52. @Almost Missouri
    Yeah, the original idea that Obamacare was going to make healthcare more affordable when it only increased the number of bureaucrats and tax-collectors while leaving actual healthcare providers unchanged or even reduced, was ludicrous on its face.

    More providers, more insurers, fewer mandates and more competition will actually reduce healthcare costs. It's not rocket science.

    The easiest way to reduce healthcare costs is to reduce healthcare. That’s the solution or the problem depending on your goal.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    But that would require saying the dreaded R word --- Rationing. Nobody wants to hear it, but it is the only way to keep costs under control.
    , @Old fogey
    Exactly. The media should be doing their job in informing people that annual physical exams are a waste of the physician's time and your dollars, that most of physical therapy is useless, and that you should not visit a doctor's office if you have cold or flu symptoms because you only spread contagion. Then little-by-little you should educate people that using an emergency room for non-emergency care is a waste of everyone's time and expertise. Then you should change the insurance structure - allowing people to sign up for catastrophic coverage, eliminating employer-sponsored insurance to be considered tax-free income for the employees, allowing nurses to handle more procedures, etc., etc. And we basically should pay no more for prescription drugs than the Canadians and the Europeans - we are being ripped off and the government is not enforcing the anti-trust laws to stop it.
    , @Opinionator
    The easiest way to reduce healthcare costs is to reduce healthcare.

    How does one "reduce healthcare"?
  53. “Do You Like White Women? Because We Have a Lot of Them at Baylor and They Love Football Players”

    Recruiting men with the promise of women is standard recruitment tactic for any college, church, or exercise club. They usually assign attractive women as guides and hosts and put potential male recruits in social environments with other women. Just like most sexual attraction, non-verbal non-explicit communication is the norm.

    I don’t see this scenario out of the ordinary at all. Why do you think online education has limited success?

    • Replies: @Curle
    "Why do you think online education has limited success?"

    Because the most effective form of communication, either between professor and student or student to student, is face to face. And, your broader point, people are social creatures.
  54. @JohnnyWalker123
    When you originally told the story, you mentioned it was the year 1973. Not 1975...........

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-baffled-by-lack-of-attention-to-vanderbilt-gang-rape/#comment-861394

    When you originally told the story, you mentioned it was the year 1973.

    According to the Wikipedia article on Caitlin Jenner, he broke the decathlon world record at a Soviet-Polish-USA competition in Eugene in August 1975. That’s where I got the 1975 date for my above comment.

    So, the 1973 date in my previous comment was a mistake. I was a graduate student at the University of Oregon during 1973-1975. I was single in 1973, so I mis-remembered that point of the above comment too. It was more than 40 years ago.

    • Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is...
    It is Bruce.
  55. I wonder how Genius T Coates would spin this one.

    • Replies: @res
    Racist white women trying to deny the black man his due?
    Inadequate attention to black bodies?
    , @Truth
    You'll be able to suspend your wonder in another week.
    , @Curle
    He'd be angry that anyone even noticed; proof they are racist and all that.
  56. This article triggers my disgust reflex on so many levels.

    One thing that never gets discussed, though, is the willingness of blacks (and kebabs, apparently) to engage in multiple-male on single-female sex. (The willingness is said single-female seems to be a non-factor.) The thought of putting my penis into an orifice where my buddy just ejaculated makes me nauseous.

    Yes, I realize there are white guys who do this sort of thing as evidenced by porn, swingers, etc., and all bets are off during wartime. But per capita, it seems to be a much more common occurrence amongst NAMs. Is there an old Anglo-Saxon euphemism for “running a train” or “ficki ficki” that I’m not aware of?

    Is this yet another “ice people vs sun people” dichotomy, or what?

    I can’t be objective because disgust. Why is this “a thing”?

    • Replies: @Ed
    A buddy of mine pointed out that he occasionally sees some of the black male pornstars out in LA. He says they don't appear to have money. Which is odd because I thought they made money on the side in the cuckolding/swinger scene.
    , @Anonymous
    The old English saying as used by such luminaries as Bernard Manning, Jim Davidson etc, is 'stirring another man's porridge'.
    , @whorefinder
    It goes to the fact that the natural state of West African blacks is the Big Man set up, where the local Big Men sleeps with almost the girls and the rest of the men (80-90%) are left with almost nothing. So when the opportunity does arise for the 80-90% of men to get some, they all jump in in a frenzy. Blacks have reverted to West African mating practices these days.

    BTW, this is also why HIV rates are so high amongst black males in this country: since we're back in the Big Man world, the 80% of black men left with nothing do what men have done for centuries when they want to have sex and there are no women around: turn to homosexual behavior. Most of the "prison rape" stories are really just two men with a dearth of women around who get caught and then would rather lie about being raped than admit they consented to sex with another man.
    , @Langley
    Why is hard to answer.

    That it is a "thing" among blacks is evident from the reference section of the Wikipedia article on gang rape:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_rape

    , @yaqub the mad scientist
    Ta Nishi Coates pretty much replaced guys like Nathan McCall as black intellectuals because he was more ready for prime time- exhibiting none of the aggressive pathologies. I was stunned how McCall was upheld as something great after reading his sickening memoir where he repeatedly discusses running a train on girls with his friends, including a couple of instances where the girl was clearly kidnapped, and he showed absolutely no remorse at all. It was one of those experiences where I realized there was something fucked in the head about the Left that went far beyond politics.

    Yeah, it's a thing in a lot of black communities, and it's common.

    , @dc.sunsets
    Chimps do this. When a female goes into heat, every male in the troop has a go at her, one after another.

    There's a point here, but I'm at a loss to put my finger on it. /LOL
    , @europeasant
    The the old days they used to call this "sloppy seconds".
    , @Truth
    Is there an old Anglo-Saxon euphemism for “running a train”... that I’m not aware of?

    Well, I'm no expert, but I would assume it's; "running a train."
    , @Dissident
    Was it really necessary to be quite that graphic and particular in describing what disgusts you?
  57. @Lot
    I am pleased to see Trump and some of the smarter House and Senate Republicans moving away from Ryan/Koch plan to destroy Trump and the party by repealing the ACA.

    Eight days ago here I posted:


    Even if Trump improves the system, he’s never going to give America what it actually wants: free high quality healthcare for everyone with no tax increases and almost no restrictions. Obama and the Dems right now own the problems with health care, the best thing for Trump is to let them keep it by doing NOTHING.

    If Trump signs ANYTHING relating to Obamacare and healthcare, suddenly he and the GOP congress own the dysfunctional healthcare system the way Obama and the Dems do now

     

    Today Congressman Tom McClintock, the leading right-wing Republican in California, made the same point:

    “We’d better be sure that we’re prepared to live with the market we’ve created” with repeal, said Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.). “That’s going to be called Trumpcare. Republicans will own that lock, stock and barrel"
     
    I offered a way out for Trump:

    Best thing for Trump would be to make a list of demands that neither the GOP nor the Dems in congress will agree to and move on.
     
    McClintock is also on board with this, saying:

    “The fact is, we cannot repeal Obamacare through reconciliation,”
     
    Translated to English, this means any "Obamacare repeal" must get 60 votes in the Senate, which will never happen because 0 Democrats would vote for it. (Dem Joe Manchin in WV loves Sessions and supports much of the Trump agenda. He does not support Paul Ryan's plan to screw over the people of his state to make the Koch Brothers richer.)

    McClintock is capable of speaking in plain English, but can't directly say "Keep the ACA" due to the misinformation about it spread by the Koch network, so he just puts impossible conditions on repeal.

    Translated to English, this means any “Obamacare repeal” must get 60 votes in the Senate, which will never happen because 0 Democrats would vote for it.

    Not necessarily. All the Senate Majority Leader has to do is get the Senate Rules Committee to scrap fillibuster, and then only 50 votes (plus the Vice President) are needed. Look up ‘nuclear option’.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @Lot
    McConnell just said he would not do this.

    It doesn't matter, because a bunch of elderly GOP senators won't end the filibuster either. McCain loves it. Dems only need three of them to defend the filibuster, but they have a lot more than that.
  58. @Anon 2
    OT: Hiring freezes have been instituted at
    many colleges and universities in Missouri,
    Nebraska, and Connecticut. Missouri is the
    latest example. After the famous 2015 racial unrest
    at the University of Missouri in Columbia, which produced
    a 25% budget drop, the whole university system is now
    facing a severe budget cutback under the new Republican
    governor Eric Greitens.

    As someone who is based in academia, I have seen the
    salaries of the presidents, provosts, deans, coaches,
    department chairs, and administrators reach astronomical
    levels while the faculty salaries have been low and largely
    stagnant. There is plenty of money for diversity budgets,
    white privilege workshops, women's studies, and black studies
    while science, technology, and engineering departments are
    continually struggling with budget shortfalls. There is so much
    waste in the state university systems I wouldn't even know where
    to begin. Hopefully, as a result of the massive hiring freezes many
    of the frivolous degree programs will be eliminated.

    That sounds like part of the hollowing out of US production capacity and the division of the population into wealthy and impoverished segments. Science and engineering faculties are part of the eroding production class. Graduates of the “studies” program (gender, racial, social justice) will either be part of the impoverished class, or the lucky few that weasel their way into the wealthy classes.

    In truth, as Michele Malkin documented in “Sold Out”

    American technology workers are also facing unemployment in the face of illegal competition by H-1b foreign workers recruited by corporations.

    Trump seems well on his way to turning the situation around, at least for his time in office. But, the structural weakness is there: the Republican and Democratic establishment are uniformly on the side of the globalists; once Trump is out of office, the chances of a comparable replacement are slim.

  59. @dude
    I don't understand the theory behind these lawsuits. Is the idea that if Baylor didn't recruit the players, they wouldn't have raped anyone? More likely, they would have still been rapist, but they would of raped some unfortunate girls who we don't care about so much rather than relatively privileged Baylor students.

    I don’t understand the theory behind these lawsuits. Is the idea that if Baylor didn’t recruit the players, they wouldn’t have raped anyone?

    Yes, and it’s perfectly reasonable. They put the fox in the henhouse. They gave them license to rape.

  60. Is this a case of a willing coed getting more action than she bargained for, or “regret” rape (my God, did I really do it with deShawn, Shantivius and the rest of the team last night? What will my fiance think?) I have zero sympathy for girls who socialize with athletes. Groupies is the most lenient word for them.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    No. This is a case of athletes overestimating their appeal to women and behaving aggressively around any female in their vicinity.

    Trust me. Most of these athletes aren't that successful with women, but they think they should. A lot of universities look the other way when these guys act out.
    , @NC
    Dude, you don't need to make up stupid black names. They're names are actually Tre’Von and Shamycheal. Anyhow this is all just more of the psychosexual interplay between bucks, cucks and coalburners that's so common in terminal stage American culture. My gut feeling is that everyone including the white male fan base is culpable and that the more I knew the less sympathy I'd have for anyone involved in this. I've read so many of these stories I can't even be angry at Shamycheal anymore.
    , @Truth

    I have zero sympathy for girls who socialize with athletes. Groupies is the most lenient word for them.
     
    Big Chief, I have sympathy for you; I hear the inside of a locker is a cold, lonely place...
  61. @Jack D
    52 acts of rape, including five gang rapes, between 2011 and 2014 — an estimate that far exceeds the number previously provided by school officials.

    Unless there were 52 men indicted and convicted, there weren't 52 rapes. Keep in mind this is a lawsuit where someone is looking to cash in, so they want to make things seem as dire as possible.
    Rape is a word that has (thanks to feminists) become extremely devalued and doesn't actually mean "rape" anymore.

    I was just about to write something similar. When I see criminal charges start getting filed, I’ll take it more seriously. If someone were to rape my wife, assuming I didn’t hunt him down myself, (which I would) we’d go to the police, not to a lawyer. Filing civil lawsuits for violent crimes makes me think more of Haven Monahan than of Jack the Ripper.

    On a different note, it’s time we do something about the Doe family. They’re clearly the most litigious people on earth. This is the first time I’ve heard of Elizabeth suing anyone. But I read about another lawsuit by John or Jane every day.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Come to think of it, not only does the article not mention 52 indictments and convictions, it doesn't even mention so much as 1 arrest. I know that our criminal justice system is not that efficient, but you would think that out of 52 "rapes" there would have been at least 1 guy arrested.
  62. @anon
    Rape, my foot. They very much wanted to partake the hot sausages. Why else would they go to a place filled with football players and alcohol. They are just trying to dig some gold now.

    Exhibit #1: That lovely little clip; Illustrates the intensity of the forbidden fruit in all of two minutes.

    Baylor is an expensive, exclusive school. Families sending their children there and actually paying the tuition have every right to expect the school to maintain a safe environment, even in the light of stupid decisions by the female students to fraternize with the football players. If there isn’t a certain safety factor for stupidity by the students, then why bother to send them to an exclusive school in the first place?

    In truth, if the allegations in the lawsuit are shown to be true, and publicized, it will do more damage to the school than the actual damages. Most alumni will withhold any support for the school, and sensible parents will avoid sending their children. The few idiots who value the victory of football above all else will compete for the Darwin award when they send their offspring to a rapist culture.

    The final victory would be the withdrawal of all federal support for universities, making them actually compete for students by offering real value.

    • Replies: @Barnard

    The few idiots who value the victory of football above all else will compete for the Darwin award when they send their offspring to a rapist culture.
     
    Baylor is in Texas, there are more than a few idiots who value football above everything else. There are many reasons for alumni to quit giving to the schools too. Scandals at other schools and rampant P.C. indoctrination haven't seemed to slow them down so far. We will see if what happened at Missouri last year is part of a larger trend, but I doubt it.
    , @40 Acres and A Kardashian

    In truth, if the allegations in the lawsuit are shown to be true, and publicized, it will do more damage to the school than the actual damages. Most alumni will withhold any support for the school,
     

    Most?

    I'd be extremely surprised if it were more than a tiny minority.

    Baylor is Baptist, and it's in Texas. Texas is Baptist country, and Texans love football, and Baptists love football.

    The vast majority of them will put up with a few stories about Suzy Q willingly hooking up with Dontrell, who then invites 5 or 6 of his teammates to join in.

    Like someone else pointed out, there were supposedly 52 "rapes", but only a few got reported to the police.

    Baptists may not have Jewish IQs, but they're smart enough to figure out that a rape that isn't reported to the cops is almost always a consensual hookup the girl later came to regret, for whatever reason.

    And the coach's son may have been a bit too forward about it, but only the very naive don't understand that this is going on all over the country at schools that are competitive in football and basketball.

  63. @guest
    Adults can sue other adults for suggesting they lie to the police? Couldn't she have just ignored him?

    A student 18 or 19 years of age is not exactly ready to manifest the independence of character needed to ignore a trusted authority figure. I think a lot hinges on the implicit, or explicit, contract between Baylor and the parents who pay the tuition.

    If parents entrust their children to the college on the grounds that the college assumes a certain responsibility for their well-being, then there is definitely a dereliction of contract when a college authority, as a representative of the college, gives them abominable advice.

    Of course, Baylor could defend against the lawsuit by asserting that its students are adults and completely on their own as far as making decisions. I’d actually like to see them make that defense in a public forum like the court. That would do wonders for recruiting actual students and alumni support.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    BS. An 18 year old definitely is old enough to exhibit adult caution. What you describe is an abject failure by mommy & daddy as parents.

    Herd behavior may be normal but it isn't required.

    Colleges promise orgies & hedonism to prospective students and their parents. I was there at parent orientation when a school admissions employee all but promised that all the students would be screwing like bunnies. Parents who don't deprogram their kids ahead of time are MORONS.

    , @guest
    They are legal adults outside of school. Inside, they're still kids, because parents are footing the bill, like with health insurance? But there is no in loco parentis anymore. Colleges can't enforce curfews or have chaperones. They can't do anything, really, to stop kids from killing themselves with sex and booze, except kicking kids out (without due process) after the fact.

    Yet they're supposedly responsible. This is anarcho-tyranny.

    What we're left with is a parody of responsibility. Laughable "blue light" systems and rape seminars every incoming student is forced to sit through to which no one pays attention. Four years of chaos and debauchery follow. Then when bad things inevitably happen, it's the college's fault? Why? Because adults, over whom they are afforded little to no power, lived in and around their campus while their parents subsidized their bad decisions.

    I can't be the only one this comes off as untenable to. Either bring back in loco parentis or treat campus rape like a crime in any other part of the city.

  64. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    This article triggers my disgust reflex on so many levels.

    One thing that never gets discussed, though, is the willingness of blacks (and kebabs, apparently) to engage in multiple-male on single-female sex. (The willingness is said single-female seems to be a non-factor.) The thought of putting my penis into an orifice where my buddy just ejaculated makes me nauseous.

    Yes, I realize there are white guys who do this sort of thing as evidenced by porn, swingers, etc., and all bets are off during wartime. But per capita, it seems to be a much more common occurrence amongst NAMs. Is there an old Anglo-Saxon euphemism for "running a train" or "ficki ficki" that I'm not aware of?

    Is this yet another "ice people vs sun people" dichotomy, or what?

    I can't be objective because disgust. Why is this "a thing"?

    A buddy of mine pointed out that he occasionally sees some of the black male pornstars out in LA. He says they don’t appear to have money. Which is odd because I thought they made money on the side in the cuckolding/swinger scene.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The law of supply and demand applies to such inanities as public dick showing just like it applies to everything else.
    Showing one's dick in public is not exactly a rare and distinguished 'attribute'.
    , @whorefinder
    I have no idea why your friend knows who the black male pornstars are, and perhaps you should be asking yourself that question.

    That said, male porn actors make far less than female talent per capita. Especially nowadays with Viagra, you can always find a guy willing and able to have sex with a girl on camera.
    , @Jack D
    A black person and his money are soon parted - old saying.
    , @Truth

    A buddy of mine pointed out that he occasionally sees some of the black male pornstars out in LA. He says they don’t appear to have money.
     
    The most consistently beautiful thing on this site is the "I have a friend" posts. One question though, why, exactly does your "friend" recognize black male porn stars? I'm black and I wouldn't know one of these guys from a can of corn.
  65. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    This article triggers my disgust reflex on so many levels.

    One thing that never gets discussed, though, is the willingness of blacks (and kebabs, apparently) to engage in multiple-male on single-female sex. (The willingness is said single-female seems to be a non-factor.) The thought of putting my penis into an orifice where my buddy just ejaculated makes me nauseous.

    Yes, I realize there are white guys who do this sort of thing as evidenced by porn, swingers, etc., and all bets are off during wartime. But per capita, it seems to be a much more common occurrence amongst NAMs. Is there an old Anglo-Saxon euphemism for "running a train" or "ficki ficki" that I'm not aware of?

    Is this yet another "ice people vs sun people" dichotomy, or what?

    I can't be objective because disgust. Why is this "a thing"?

    The old English saying as used by such luminaries as Bernard Manning, Jim Davidson etc, is ‘stirring another man’s porridge’.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    I guess that's better than "drinking another man's milkshake"!
  66. @Anon 2
    OT: Hiring freezes have been instituted at
    many colleges and universities in Missouri,
    Nebraska, and Connecticut. Missouri is the
    latest example. After the famous 2015 racial unrest
    at the University of Missouri in Columbia, which produced
    a 25% budget drop, the whole university system is now
    facing a severe budget cutback under the new Republican
    governor Eric Greitens.

    As someone who is based in academia, I have seen the
    salaries of the presidents, provosts, deans, coaches,
    department chairs, and administrators reach astronomical
    levels while the faculty salaries have been low and largely
    stagnant. There is plenty of money for diversity budgets,
    white privilege workshops, women's studies, and black studies
    while science, technology, and engineering departments are
    continually struggling with budget shortfalls. There is so much
    waste in the state university systems I wouldn't even know where
    to begin. Hopefully, as a result of the massive hiring freezes many
    of the frivolous degree programs will be eliminated.

    Sounds like your universities have successfully managed to self-destruct. In ten, twenty years, the SJW problem will have solved itself.

  67. @Lot
    I am pleased to see Trump and some of the smarter House and Senate Republicans moving away from Ryan/Koch plan to destroy Trump and the party by repealing the ACA.

    Eight days ago here I posted:


    Even if Trump improves the system, he’s never going to give America what it actually wants: free high quality healthcare for everyone with no tax increases and almost no restrictions. Obama and the Dems right now own the problems with health care, the best thing for Trump is to let them keep it by doing NOTHING.

    If Trump signs ANYTHING relating to Obamacare and healthcare, suddenly he and the GOP congress own the dysfunctional healthcare system the way Obama and the Dems do now

     

    Today Congressman Tom McClintock, the leading right-wing Republican in California, made the same point:

    “We’d better be sure that we’re prepared to live with the market we’ve created” with repeal, said Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.). “That’s going to be called Trumpcare. Republicans will own that lock, stock and barrel"
     
    I offered a way out for Trump:

    Best thing for Trump would be to make a list of demands that neither the GOP nor the Dems in congress will agree to and move on.
     
    McClintock is also on board with this, saying:

    “The fact is, we cannot repeal Obamacare through reconciliation,”
     
    Translated to English, this means any "Obamacare repeal" must get 60 votes in the Senate, which will never happen because 0 Democrats would vote for it. (Dem Joe Manchin in WV loves Sessions and supports much of the Trump agenda. He does not support Paul Ryan's plan to screw over the people of his state to make the Koch Brothers richer.)

    McClintock is capable of speaking in plain English, but can't directly say "Keep the ACA" due to the misinformation about it spread by the Koch network, so he just puts impossible conditions on repeal.

    As Dave Pinson points out, it is simply irresponsible to maintain the ACA, even if politically risky.

    There are major fixes that can be made, particularly in extending competition between states. But, part of the problem is that health care, like everything else, is a finite resource and has to involve trade-offs. Traditionally, public services deteriorate because the politically-appointed decision-makers cannot make decisions.

    Any viable health care system will provide a basic health availability, with expensive or unusual treatments going to those with the resources or foresight to pay for private insurance. Any attempt to cover everyone for everything will involve the system in corruption, waste, and bankruptcy.

    So, any alternative to ACA act will involve denying some care to some people. It’s a simple application of economics, like the law of gravity. You can’t legislate it away or find free market substitute.

  68. @Ed
    A buddy of mine pointed out that he occasionally sees some of the black male pornstars out in LA. He says they don't appear to have money. Which is odd because I thought they made money on the side in the cuckolding/swinger scene.

    The law of supply and demand applies to such inanities as public dick showing just like it applies to everything else.
    Showing one’s dick in public is not exactly a rare and distinguished ‘attribute’.

  69. Hard to tell what is true. It could be one of four things:

    1. Sluts get banged by football players, and now trying to profit from it in the current atmosphere of “any accusation by a woman of any rape is 110% all the proof needed.”

    2. Local paid hookers, ahem, booster girls, slept with some recruits, word got out about it, the program shut down, and now the out-of-work street walkers (sorry, booster girls) are trying to save face and make some money back.

    3. Actual, grab-her-in-the-dark-in-a-park rape.

    4. As Steve has pointed out, the slut agrees to sleep with Jock A, only to have a train unwillingly run on her by Jock’s B-Z.

    It’s probably a combination of all four.

    BTW, there is a different tactic some college boosters are using to sex up their recruits. Instead of getting a local skank factory to give it up, they hire an 18 year old boy’s fantasy—a real life porn star—and she sexes up the kid beyond his wildest dreams:

    https://www.tmz.com/2014/10/23/notre-dame-football-justin-brent-lisa-ann-date-knicks-game/

    Of course the problem with that is, when the information gets out into the media, it becomes painfully obvious that she was hired to do so. Especially when he’s taking in Knick games in New York with the woman when he goes to school in Indiana and she does her “career” in LA.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    To his credit, Ken Starr not only "accepted responsibility", he resigned his post as Chancellor and as a law professor. I have a friend who knows him well and she says he is a good guy. Perhaps too naive.
    , @Dissident

    the current atmosphere of “any accusation by a woman of any rape is 110% all the proof needed.”
     
    Does that rule apply when the male accused is "of color"? (Or Muslim)

    Isn't this a case of narrative collision?
  70. @donut
    "Why not increase the supply of physicians, by loaning or giving medical schools money to expand, and similarly encouraging hospitals to increase their number of clerkship's, internships, and residencies accordingly?"

    From own experience the profession is already swamped with Indians , Pakis , Africans and Asians . The Indian physician is a cliche . That's the way the industry is increasing the supply of MDs. As doctors they range from very good to dangerous just like our own home grown doctors do . The Indian/Paki and Arab doctors do seem to specialize in Medicare fraud more than the American docs but maybe they just get caught more often .
    I think one of the biggest obstacles to affordable health care is the insurance industry which really got rolling in the middle of the last century . Before that the patient paid . Now unless you are rich a week in the hospital will put you in the poor house and boy do they pad the bill . Insurance is a racket , they drive the prices up until you can't see a doctor without insurance and now we can't afford either the doctor or the insurance . What service exactly do they provide for all that money ?
    As of the present there isn't widespread insurance for animals but they are trying to weasel their way in there too . You have a pet that needs to see the vet. you can afford it , it might sting but you can pay out of pocket . In the 90's I had a dog that needed orthopedic Sx. on her knee . 650-700 bucks and she got spade at the same time , In NYC. A human would probably have to pay more than that for an office visit and a pre-op workup .
    But as I see it the whole healthcare industry is irrational and and beyond fixing , just another one of societies institutions heading for collapse . All my hopes are riding on a fatal heart attack just about the time my money runs out . 2-5 more years maybe . I just pray that I outlive my car .

    The veterinary medicine racket is amazing. My family’s “free” barn cat was bitten by another animal, and the total cost was $1,200. They’re learning fast.

    I’d also point out that (based on my observations of my friend’s daughter, currently in vet school) at least 80 percent of veterinary medicine students are female. They know a racket when they see one. Ten percent of the pressure of med school, and 100 percent of the money that pediatricians make. Smart.

    • Replies: @donut
    Did you look that up ? Or was that a lucky guess ? Any way it's right on the money . I am going to guess that weight of the cost of your barn cat's treatment was in meds rather Dr. fees . All the same $1200 is nothing to what it costs to treat a urinary infection in the hosp.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    The vet business seems to be overrun with lesbians in my experience.

    Vet school is harder to get into than med school. Many students go abroad.

    , @donut
    I have to say I don't agree with "The veterinary medicine racket " . When it was time for my little angel to go our vet. came to the house to put her down , and I was able to hold her in my arms as she faded away . To be honest I would rather be treated by him than than 90% of your JHH grads .
    There are 31 Vet. schools in the country as opposed to : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_medical_schools_in_the_United_States .

    And they are hard to get into as well . And they make less money . Racket it is not .
    , @res

    They’re learning fast.
     
    Vet insurance is becoming a thing. That might be part of it.
    , @IAmCorn
    Vet med students are heavily female alas. And they all want to work on the cutesy wutesy pets. In some rural areas the number of vets willing to do farm calls for cows and pigs is dwindling because the ladies don't like doing that.
    , @Truth

    Ten percent of the pressure of med school, and 100 percent of the money that pediatricians make.
     
    Uh, no; and no.
    , @Marty T
    Veterinarian seems like a great career for guys who like animals, that's for sure. Well-respected, great male-female ratio and you don't have to touch people.
  71. @Mike Sylwester
    I've told this story here before, but I'll repeat it now.

    In Eugene, Oregon, in 1975, there was a decathlon competition among competitors from the USA, USSR and Poland. I was a Slavic-language graduate student who could speak Russian and Polish, and so I was asked to serve as an interpreter. I spent about a week with the Soviet and Polish teams.

    During that time, I observed the sexual opportunities that these world-class athletes enjoyed.

    A few extremely beautiful coeds were associated with the UO athletic department. They wore department shirts and interacted with department staff. I saw that each Polish athlete got to spend a night with one of these coeds, if he wanted to do so. The athletes bragged about it on the following mornings.

    In addition, various local girls came onto these athletes. I knew some of the girls, because they studied the Russian language at the university. They wanted to spend time with the Russian athletes to practice their Russian. The Russians said, basically, that they were interested in spending such time only if the girls agreed in advance to have sex with them. Some of those coeds agreed, and some did not.

    Some of the eager girls did not study Russian or Polish, but they wanted to spend time with the athletes. A couple of local girls invited me and the Polish team's trainer to their home for a spaghetti dinner. They were insulted that we did not bring wine, and we did not get anywhere with them. I was married, and the Polish trainer was shy.

    Anyway, I saw that top athletes enjoy continual sexual opportunities that ordinary guys can only fantasize about.

    Bruce Jenner won that competition. I interpreted for him. I remember seeing his gorgeous wife Chrissie weeping and running toward joyfully him as he won the last race. I took an interest in her and paid attention as his divorce was reported in the tabloids during the following years. She blamed herself for the divorce, saying that she was frigid.

    I’m not sure what your point is.

    One possible conclusion from your story is that the athletes involved were simply thugs who could have had sex with a minimum of charm and effort, but who were unwilling or unable to put off sex until they actually obtained the consent of their partner.

    One cannot entirely discount the possibility that the woman initiating the lawsuit is simply a gold-digger, looking for attention or some unearned revenue. It’s happened before. I’m not totally comfortable with filing charges or bringing legal damages against people based on allegations by women concerning events that happened years ago that they did not speak about at the time. I think the best treatment of these charges is a public airing focused on potential donors and parents of prospective students, who may want to rethink their concept of the value of this particular exclusive school.

  72. Football is just bread and circuses. The American Empire is just an an extension of the British Empire. There is a connection between college football and the overseas expansion of the American Empire.

    College football started in the East in a game between Rutgers and Princeton in 1869, Rutgers hosted the game and won. Construction of larger stadiums or coliseums for collegiate football roughly corresponds with the 1890s decision to scramble for overseas imperial possessions. The US census superintendent declared the frontier closed in 1890, so expansionism in the ships it was.

    Controlled violence is essential for the administration and continuation of empires. The “playing fields” are where the imperial young are taught how to inflict their will upon opponents using controlled violence. The Brits started it and we’re still doing it. Only now, in the United States, many of the players in college football are the descendants of slaves that were brought from Africa.

    The Black football thugs are just one more small signal of imperial decay. The American Empire is imploding. Patriots should welcome the implosion of the American Empire.

    • Replies: @Truth

    Patriots should welcome the implosion of the American Empire.
     
    Maybe, but people who do stuff like; go shopping, drive to work, and use fossil fuels to heat their homes, and running water, shouldn't.
  73. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    This article triggers my disgust reflex on so many levels.

    One thing that never gets discussed, though, is the willingness of blacks (and kebabs, apparently) to engage in multiple-male on single-female sex. (The willingness is said single-female seems to be a non-factor.) The thought of putting my penis into an orifice where my buddy just ejaculated makes me nauseous.

    Yes, I realize there are white guys who do this sort of thing as evidenced by porn, swingers, etc., and all bets are off during wartime. But per capita, it seems to be a much more common occurrence amongst NAMs. Is there an old Anglo-Saxon euphemism for "running a train" or "ficki ficki" that I'm not aware of?

    Is this yet another "ice people vs sun people" dichotomy, or what?

    I can't be objective because disgust. Why is this "a thing"?

    It goes to the fact that the natural state of West African blacks is the Big Man set up, where the local Big Men sleeps with almost the girls and the rest of the men (80-90%) are left with almost nothing. So when the opportunity does arise for the 80-90% of men to get some, they all jump in in a frenzy. Blacks have reverted to West African mating practices these days.

    BTW, this is also why HIV rates are so high amongst black males in this country: since we’re back in the Big Man world, the 80% of black men left with nothing do what men have done for centuries when they want to have sex and there are no women around: turn to homosexual behavior. Most of the “prison rape” stories are really just two men with a dearth of women around who get caught and then would rather lie about being raped than admit they consented to sex with another man.

  74. @Anon
    Any white guy who watched American Football is a cuck-roach.

    What is it a celebration of? Black guys whupping white guys and humping white girls.

    This is something a white guy wants to cheer to?

    US and EU are both turning into crap with Negromania.

    As a guy who played division 3 football at a UAA League school(humble brag), I cannot fathom these rednecks in Tennessee for instance who have no connection to a school (didn’t even go to college) getting all excited over their university of random fly over state with small population football squad.

    Also, football has become boarder line barbaric, and I am so glad ratings are down. My very smart cousin who played in a superbowl (nother brag) can imagine the day when football is over and finished as a sport.

    • Replies: @Anon
    The Right should invoke multiculturalism and diversity to call for separate balls.

    We need the concept of Our Balls. So, let blacks have their footballs and let whites have their footballs. Let blacks play with their balls, and let whites play with their balls.

    Because blacks are superior in speed and power, they dominate all big sports. And that means other races don't get to play.

    Since 'white' is associated with bad stuff, the Right should make this case by pointing to Mexicans, Asians, Hindus, and Muslims. They are SHUT OUT of the game. So, let them play with their balls in their own games. Let them invoke 'our balls'.

    That way, blacks can cheer for their blacks and their balls.
    Mexicans can cheer for their browns and their balls.
    Whites can cheer for their whites and their balls.

    Each should be proud of 'our balls'.

    And this wouldn't be discriminatory since the non-black sports would be predicated not only HAVING THE BEST ATHLETES but as providing SAFE SPACES or SAFE FIELDS for non-black athletes who can't compete with the mofos.
  75. @Ed
    A buddy of mine pointed out that he occasionally sees some of the black male pornstars out in LA. He says they don't appear to have money. Which is odd because I thought they made money on the side in the cuckolding/swinger scene.

    I have no idea why your friend knows who the black male pornstars are, and perhaps you should be asking yourself that question.

    That said, male porn actors make far less than female talent per capita. Especially nowadays with Viagra, you can always find a guy willing and able to have sex with a girl on camera.

    • Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian

    I have no idea why your friend knows who the black male pornstars are, and perhaps you should be asking yourself that question.
     
    Indeed.
    , @Dissident

    Especially nowadays with Viagra, you can always find a guy willing and able to have sex with a girl on camera.
     
    Healthy males in the porn actor demographic needing Viagra? Performance anxiety, perhaps?
  76. @Tha Philosopher
    Art Briles should get the death penalty.

    A lot of the 52 women will have powerful dads. He may be lucky to be alive after a year actually even outside of prison.

    Ken Starr will then represent him and get him 12 months comm service after leaning on his judge buddy in return for millions in an offshore account or some bullshit deal where he points the finger on some of the players and gets a fine.

    Steve, since the justice system is morbidly corrupt at this point in America, what do you think about vigilantism?

    You sound like a troll to me. You’re trying to get Steve to sign onto a specific advocacy of illegal, vigilante violence against a specific person. And you’re referring to the extra-legal exploits of Allen Dulles. But, it’s the same principle: the use of illegal violence.

  77. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    This article triggers my disgust reflex on so many levels.

    One thing that never gets discussed, though, is the willingness of blacks (and kebabs, apparently) to engage in multiple-male on single-female sex. (The willingness is said single-female seems to be a non-factor.) The thought of putting my penis into an orifice where my buddy just ejaculated makes me nauseous.

    Yes, I realize there are white guys who do this sort of thing as evidenced by porn, swingers, etc., and all bets are off during wartime. But per capita, it seems to be a much more common occurrence amongst NAMs. Is there an old Anglo-Saxon euphemism for "running a train" or "ficki ficki" that I'm not aware of?

    Is this yet another "ice people vs sun people" dichotomy, or what?

    I can't be objective because disgust. Why is this "a thing"?

    Why is hard to answer.

    That it is a “thing” among blacks is evident from the reference section of the Wikipedia article on gang rape:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_rape

  78. @Mike Sylwester

    When you originally told the story, you mentioned it was the year 1973.
     
    According to the Wikipedia article on Caitlin Jenner, he broke the decathlon world record at a Soviet-Polish-USA competition in Eugene in August 1975. That's where I got the 1975 date for my above comment.

    So, the 1973 date in my previous comment was a mistake. I was a graduate student at the University of Oregon during 1973-1975. I was single in 1973, so I mis-remembered that point of the above comment too. It was more than 40 years ago.

    It is Bruce.

  79. Steve Sailer is drinking coffee out of a red plastic cup while attempting to trigger us with these words: White women, football players. Sailer has accomplished his goal. That Baylor football story is disgusting.

    What is the answer to the squalidity that is life in the American Empire in 2017? VOLCKERIZATION NOW!

    If the privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank were to raise the federal funds rate to 6, 8 or 10 percent, the whole damn squalid thing would collapse. Do it, dammit! Do It!

    Attention all young people: The people born before 1965 are the ones benefiting from the monetary extremism of the privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank. To reclaim your country, you will have to repudiate the government debts that the older people have placed on you. You must declare all government debt ODIOUS, and refuse to pay it.

  80. @JohnnyWalker123
    By the way, from my experience, a lot of these athletes don't do as well with women as you'd think. At the same time, they tend to be very sexually aggressive and have a huge sense of sexual entitlement. They think every girl should be sleeping with them and that they should be stars on campus.

    My guess is that a lot of rapes are a product of this attitude.

    With perhaps the exception of true star athlete (the type of guy who goes in the first couple rounds of the draft), a lot of athletes don't get the type of attention they want (and believe they deserve).

    One last point. Contrary to what you may read on here, most girls don't prefer blacks in their dating/sexual lives. It's generally a lot easier for a white athlete than a black athlete. That's at least one factor in why blacks commit a lot more rapes.

    Yeah, it seems to me that on average, white baseball and lacrosse players get much higher quality women than the black athletes. Sure, a superstar like Jameis will do well, but she’ll protest when he tries to hand her off to backup linebacker Quantravious.

  81. Anonymous [AKA "Gianni_D"] says:

    When I was in college in the early 90’s, my university had had a big successful football program for many years. They had an official club for female football groupies called, “Husker Hostesses”. They basically recruited hot white girls who liked jocks to become hostesses to attend parties with the football players and make them feel important.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber

    They basically recruited hot white girls who liked jocks to become hostesses to attend parties with the football players and make them feel important.
     
    And blow them
  82. Why doesn’t Baylor just go ahead and make Russell D. Moore the head football coach? Break on through to the other side like that admiral’s son said. Do it.

    It’s really bad folks.

    • Replies: @dilys
    >make Russell D. Moore the head football coach

    Wow. that's real Southern Baptist inside baseball [as it were]. Impressive, Sir!
  83. @bomag
    Baylor enabled and facilitated the rapes far beyond the point where they would have happened otherwise, thus they bear some culpability.

    We should guide our high functioning young women into forming and raising families, but we seem to be in an age where we "harvest" them for other purposes; not only as bait for football recruits, but we offer them up to the harem of corporate sterility, Hollywood glamour, etc. This does not look like a path for long term success.

    “corporate sterility”. That’s pretty good. Those are the women who are actually smart. The Hollywood glamour and football player-chaser types are not the smart ones.

    The girls chasing the football teams are typical liberal power worshipers. They may not even be attracted to the guys but they love being in on the coolest parties and being well-known. Then they get wasted (drunk is too mild a term) and get used, or even raped. I couldn’t begin to tell the difference from the outside, but they knew they were playing with fire. That’s what made it so much fun.

    Frankly, we either go back to the old, restrictive campus measures, or we brace ourselves to live with this mess. Mixing up lustful men, stupid women, tons of alcohol and drugs, and no supervision and we act all shocked when bad things happen. I’m getting outrage-fatigue with the whole college rape story.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  84. @donut
    "Why not increase the supply of physicians, by loaning or giving medical schools money to expand, and similarly encouraging hospitals to increase their number of clerkship's, internships, and residencies accordingly?"

    From own experience the profession is already swamped with Indians , Pakis , Africans and Asians . The Indian physician is a cliche . That's the way the industry is increasing the supply of MDs. As doctors they range from very good to dangerous just like our own home grown doctors do . The Indian/Paki and Arab doctors do seem to specialize in Medicare fraud more than the American docs but maybe they just get caught more often .
    I think one of the biggest obstacles to affordable health care is the insurance industry which really got rolling in the middle of the last century . Before that the patient paid . Now unless you are rich a week in the hospital will put you in the poor house and boy do they pad the bill . Insurance is a racket , they drive the prices up until you can't see a doctor without insurance and now we can't afford either the doctor or the insurance . What service exactly do they provide for all that money ?
    As of the present there isn't widespread insurance for animals but they are trying to weasel their way in there too . You have a pet that needs to see the vet. you can afford it , it might sting but you can pay out of pocket . In the 90's I had a dog that needed orthopedic Sx. on her knee . 650-700 bucks and she got spade at the same time , In NYC. A human would probably have to pay more than that for an office visit and a pre-op workup .
    But as I see it the whole healthcare industry is irrational and and beyond fixing , just another one of societies institutions heading for collapse . All my hopes are riding on a fatal heart attack just about the time my money runs out . 2-5 more years maybe . I just pray that I outlive my car .

    she got spade

    David?

  85. @donut
    "Why not increase the supply of physicians, by loaning or giving medical schools money to expand, and similarly encouraging hospitals to increase their number of clerkship's, internships, and residencies accordingly?"

    From own experience the profession is already swamped with Indians , Pakis , Africans and Asians . The Indian physician is a cliche . That's the way the industry is increasing the supply of MDs. As doctors they range from very good to dangerous just like our own home grown doctors do . The Indian/Paki and Arab doctors do seem to specialize in Medicare fraud more than the American docs but maybe they just get caught more often .
    I think one of the biggest obstacles to affordable health care is the insurance industry which really got rolling in the middle of the last century . Before that the patient paid . Now unless you are rich a week in the hospital will put you in the poor house and boy do they pad the bill . Insurance is a racket , they drive the prices up until you can't see a doctor without insurance and now we can't afford either the doctor or the insurance . What service exactly do they provide for all that money ?
    As of the present there isn't widespread insurance for animals but they are trying to weasel their way in there too . You have a pet that needs to see the vet. you can afford it , it might sting but you can pay out of pocket . In the 90's I had a dog that needed orthopedic Sx. on her knee . 650-700 bucks and she got spade at the same time , In NYC. A human would probably have to pay more than that for an office visit and a pre-op workup .
    But as I see it the whole healthcare industry is irrational and and beyond fixing , just another one of societies institutions heading for collapse . All my hopes are riding on a fatal heart attack just about the time my money runs out . 2-5 more years maybe . I just pray that I outlive my car .

    I have a couple of observations on your comment.

    Medicine, as elsewhere, involves trade-offs.

    I have had a heart valve replacement. The skill of the surgeons, physicians, and staff involved, not to mention the sophisticated equipment and devices involved, simply can’t be inexpensive. This is not something you can pay for without insurance, or without pretty much bankrupting your savings. I would, on the other hand, be perfectly satisfied with catastrophe insurance, with a $10,000 or so deductible.

    I do think there is likely collusion between the medical industry and the insurance industry to stifle any real competition in medical care. For instance, the use of nurse-practitioners or physicians assistants, who are perfectly capable of providing basic care and prescriptions. What we have now is a very expensive system which is totally risk-adverse. You pay for the reduction of risk. It’s an application of the 80-20 rule: you pay 80% of the expense for the last 20% of the risk. But, the extreme cases get the bulk of publicity. I don’t know if it’s simply the nature of the news, or a calculated campaign to promote government-mandated insurance.

    • Replies: @donut
    You are right about " The skill of the surgeons, physicians, and staff involved, not to mention the sophisticated equipment and devices" . I'm not so sure about the collusion between the health care industry and the insurance industry . Every hospital in the country has a dept. dedicated to meeting the paperwork demands of the insurers who take every opportunity to deny payment to the point of denying payment for a misplaced signature . In my opinion they are adversaries . But beyond that there is another problem . The allocation of resources . Now I worked all my life and paid in and believe it or not produced something . Four years ago I had an MI and worked two more years . Now I am retired and contribute nothing , does it make any sense for the tax payers , that is you and the million others to pay to extend my life ? I don't want to die in agony of course but it would be absurd to spend a shit load of your money so I can lay in my own shit in a hell I don't want to think about . The system is not just broken , it feeds off the suffering of others .
  86. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    This article triggers my disgust reflex on so many levels.

    One thing that never gets discussed, though, is the willingness of blacks (and kebabs, apparently) to engage in multiple-male on single-female sex. (The willingness is said single-female seems to be a non-factor.) The thought of putting my penis into an orifice where my buddy just ejaculated makes me nauseous.

    Yes, I realize there are white guys who do this sort of thing as evidenced by porn, swingers, etc., and all bets are off during wartime. But per capita, it seems to be a much more common occurrence amongst NAMs. Is there an old Anglo-Saxon euphemism for "running a train" or "ficki ficki" that I'm not aware of?

    Is this yet another "ice people vs sun people" dichotomy, or what?

    I can't be objective because disgust. Why is this "a thing"?

    Ta Nishi Coates pretty much replaced guys like Nathan McCall as black intellectuals because he was more ready for prime time- exhibiting none of the aggressive pathologies. I was stunned how McCall was upheld as something great after reading his sickening memoir where he repeatedly discusses running a train on girls with his friends, including a couple of instances where the girl was clearly kidnapped, and he showed absolutely no remorse at all. It was one of those experiences where I realized there was something fucked in the head about the Left that went far beyond politics.

    Yeah, it’s a thing in a lot of black communities, and it’s common.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Agree. McCall is a nasty piece of work, born too late to be a Black Panther.
    , @Dissident
    While not at the level of what you cite for Nathan McCall, I do recall reading quoted passages from Coates' celebrated Between the World and Me that clearly came across to me (and the reviewer) as exhibitive of "aggressive pathologies".
  87. @bomag
    We tsked tsked over England's Rotherham scandal, where officials there offered up the native girls to Pakistani rape gangs.

    Glad that doesn't happen here.

    Oh, wait...

    Stupid is as stupid does.

    White girls who hang around blacks get what they deserve. People who play with rattlesnakes can’t complain about being bitten.

    A white girl who was raped by a black better have the broken bones or knife wounds to prove it. If she so much as knew his first name, she bears the same culpability for her condition as the mugging victim who loudly flashed his cash & Rolex.

    It’s long past time to heap derision on these stupid girls whose mothers failed the first rule of parenting.

    • Replies: @sayless
    "White girls who hang around blacks get what they deserve."

    But up till now there's been a lack of information, and imaging perpetrated by establishment media. Lots of people know who Emmett Till was and he's getting his own movie later on this year. How many people know who Christopher Newsome was?

    Inexperienced and naive young girls don't grasp the danger involved. And the danger is concealed by the establishment.

    A young girl isn't to blame if her mother failed to warn her about black boys or men taking their hatred out on white girls or women.

    And it gets more complicated if her mom divorced her dad and her stepfather loathes her.

    Being naive, or stupid, is a risk, not a moral fault. They go with the territory, being young, and these days, brainwashed.

    , @sayless
    "A white girl who was raped by a black better have the broken bones or knife wounds to prove it."

    I personally know two who were raped at knife point and did not have the broken bones or knife wounds to prove it.

    They submitted because they wanted to preserve their lives.
  88. @RonaldB
    Baylor is an expensive, exclusive school. Families sending their children there and actually paying the tuition have every right to expect the school to maintain a safe environment, even in the light of stupid decisions by the female students to fraternize with the football players. If there isn't a certain safety factor for stupidity by the students, then why bother to send them to an exclusive school in the first place?

    In truth, if the allegations in the lawsuit are shown to be true, and publicized, it will do more damage to the school than the actual damages. Most alumni will withhold any support for the school, and sensible parents will avoid sending their children. The few idiots who value the victory of football above all else will compete for the Darwin award when they send their offspring to a rapist culture.

    The final victory would be the withdrawal of all federal support for universities, making them actually compete for students by offering real value.

    The few idiots who value the victory of football above all else will compete for the Darwin award when they send their offspring to a rapist culture.

    Baylor is in Texas, there are more than a few idiots who value football above everything else. There are many reasons for alumni to quit giving to the schools too. Scandals at other schools and rampant P.C. indoctrination haven’t seemed to slow them down so far. We will see if what happened at Missouri last year is part of a larger trend, but I doubt it.

  89. @RonaldB
    A student 18 or 19 years of age is not exactly ready to manifest the independence of character needed to ignore a trusted authority figure. I think a lot hinges on the implicit, or explicit, contract between Baylor and the parents who pay the tuition.

    If parents entrust their children to the college on the grounds that the college assumes a certain responsibility for their well-being, then there is definitely a dereliction of contract when a college authority, as a representative of the college, gives them abominable advice.

    Of course, Baylor could defend against the lawsuit by asserting that its students are adults and completely on their own as far as making decisions. I'd actually like to see them make that defense in a public forum like the court. That would do wonders for recruiting actual students and alumni support.

    BS. An 18 year old definitely is old enough to exhibit adult caution. What you describe is an abject failure by mommy & daddy as parents.

    Herd behavior may be normal but it isn’t required.

    Colleges promise orgies & hedonism to prospective students and their parents. I was there at parent orientation when a school admissions employee all but promised that all the students would be screwing like bunnies. Parents who don’t deprogram their kids ahead of time are MORONS.

    • Replies: @anon
    a school admissions employee all but promised that all the students would be screwing like bunnies.

    I am curious what choice words are used to advertise this feature?
  90. @donut
    "Why not increase the supply of physicians, by loaning or giving medical schools money to expand, and similarly encouraging hospitals to increase their number of clerkship's, internships, and residencies accordingly?"

    From own experience the profession is already swamped with Indians , Pakis , Africans and Asians . The Indian physician is a cliche . That's the way the industry is increasing the supply of MDs. As doctors they range from very good to dangerous just like our own home grown doctors do . The Indian/Paki and Arab doctors do seem to specialize in Medicare fraud more than the American docs but maybe they just get caught more often .
    I think one of the biggest obstacles to affordable health care is the insurance industry which really got rolling in the middle of the last century . Before that the patient paid . Now unless you are rich a week in the hospital will put you in the poor house and boy do they pad the bill . Insurance is a racket , they drive the prices up until you can't see a doctor without insurance and now we can't afford either the doctor or the insurance . What service exactly do they provide for all that money ?
    As of the present there isn't widespread insurance for animals but they are trying to weasel their way in there too . You have a pet that needs to see the vet. you can afford it , it might sting but you can pay out of pocket . In the 90's I had a dog that needed orthopedic Sx. on her knee . 650-700 bucks and she got spade at the same time , In NYC. A human would probably have to pay more than that for an office visit and a pre-op workup .
    But as I see it the whole healthcare industry is irrational and and beyond fixing , just another one of societies institutions heading for collapse . All my hopes are riding on a fatal heart attack just about the time my money runs out . 2-5 more years maybe . I just pray that I outlive my car .

    You must survive to become a burden to the taxpayers–every citizen’s highest duty!

    Don’t die too soon–lots of us will miss your comments!

  91. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    This article triggers my disgust reflex on so many levels.

    One thing that never gets discussed, though, is the willingness of blacks (and kebabs, apparently) to engage in multiple-male on single-female sex. (The willingness is said single-female seems to be a non-factor.) The thought of putting my penis into an orifice where my buddy just ejaculated makes me nauseous.

    Yes, I realize there are white guys who do this sort of thing as evidenced by porn, swingers, etc., and all bets are off during wartime. But per capita, it seems to be a much more common occurrence amongst NAMs. Is there an old Anglo-Saxon euphemism for "running a train" or "ficki ficki" that I'm not aware of?

    Is this yet another "ice people vs sun people" dichotomy, or what?

    I can't be objective because disgust. Why is this "a thing"?

    Chimps do this. When a female goes into heat, every male in the troop has a go at her, one after another.

    There’s a point here, but I’m at a loss to put my finger on it. /LOL

    • Replies: @guest
    I have no doubt that's been a common feature of all human history. Which means at some level women must enjoy and actually welcome gang rape. Which makes me a little sick to admit, but that may just be my Current Year ignorance at work.

    Point is, we don't know where female invitation and enjoyment begins and ends, nor what is and is not rape, especially in these days of normalized debauchery. (Which doesn't require everyone to be debauched, just that those who are aren't freaks or monsters anymore.) Which is why in the Bad Old Days our civilization kept women on a leash. You may not like that approach, but bear in mind that the modern college campus offers absolutely ZERO solution. They couldn't even if they wanted to.

    We're in a No Man's Land between the old ways and whatever solution the emerging gynocracy will come up with. Probably something out of Aristophanes.

  92. @donut
    "Why not increase the supply of physicians, by loaning or giving medical schools money to expand, and similarly encouraging hospitals to increase their number of clerkship's, internships, and residencies accordingly?"

    From own experience the profession is already swamped with Indians , Pakis , Africans and Asians . The Indian physician is a cliche . That's the way the industry is increasing the supply of MDs. As doctors they range from very good to dangerous just like our own home grown doctors do . The Indian/Paki and Arab doctors do seem to specialize in Medicare fraud more than the American docs but maybe they just get caught more often .
    I think one of the biggest obstacles to affordable health care is the insurance industry which really got rolling in the middle of the last century . Before that the patient paid . Now unless you are rich a week in the hospital will put you in the poor house and boy do they pad the bill . Insurance is a racket , they drive the prices up until you can't see a doctor without insurance and now we can't afford either the doctor or the insurance . What service exactly do they provide for all that money ?
    As of the present there isn't widespread insurance for animals but they are trying to weasel their way in there too . You have a pet that needs to see the vet. you can afford it , it might sting but you can pay out of pocket . In the 90's I had a dog that needed orthopedic Sx. on her knee . 650-700 bucks and she got spade at the same time , In NYC. A human would probably have to pay more than that for an office visit and a pre-op workup .
    But as I see it the whole healthcare industry is irrational and and beyond fixing , just another one of societies institutions heading for collapse . All my hopes are riding on a fatal heart attack just about the time my money runs out . 2-5 more years maybe . I just pray that I outlive my car .

    Karl Denninger offers the most insightful explanation for why the medical services industry is a disaster.

    Look him up market-ticker.org

    • Replies: @Old fogey
    Glad to see so many Denninger fans here. I always knew isteve commenters were smart.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    I mentioned on Twitter that I'd be curious to see Mickey Kaus's take on Denninger's legal argument about price-fixing and collusion in the medical industry.
  93. Every time you watch sports, you are directly funding this.

    Spread the word.

  94. Who wants to watch sports played by people who look like they got out of jail? I like watching sports played by people I find attractive. For that reason, men’s tennis is probably my favorite sport, especially when Roger Federer is playing.

    • Replies: @Buck Turgidson
    Federer-Nadal in the Australian final this early am east coast time was fantastic. The athleticism and skill was off the charts--they are SO good! The tension and back and forth was superb; the fans really got their money's worth. The remarks by each of them following the match, too, were incredible. What well spoken, humble, gracious men they are. They are true sportsmen and gentlemen. They did not mumble (speaking English, of course not the first language for either) and each of them spent >5 minutes reflecting on the match, praising their opponent, and thanking everyone from the sponsors to their friends to the fans to the people of Australia. Great role models. They are the antithesis of showboating NFL players who dance and strut around in the end zone, and use this silly motion of pretending to be spooning food into their mouths after making a big play. Don't get me going on the dreadlocks of NFL and college football players.
  95. @BB753
    Is this a case of a willing coed getting more action than she bargained for, or "regret" rape (my God, did I really do it with deShawn, Shantivius and the rest of the team last night? What will my fiance think?) I have zero sympathy for girls who socialize with athletes. Groupies is the most lenient word for them.

    No. This is a case of athletes overestimating their appeal to women and behaving aggressively around any female in their vicinity.

    Trust me. Most of these athletes aren’t that successful with women, but they think they should. A lot of universities look the other way when these guys act out.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    Right. Because these rapes happened in the library, right? These football players are so unsuccessful with women that none of them will go drinking with them at night in venues that have couches, beds, etc. So the players have to walk into the library and drag the girls away from their studies.
    , @BB753
    These girls go to parties with athletes and get drunk with them. They follow them to their dorms. What do they expect?
  96. Most of these alleged rapes are the real deal, and they’re all thanks to less than superstar athletes with 85 IQs and an entitlement mentality not getting what they think they deserve.

    A lot of students who are near the top of their classes in high school go off to college only to discover they aren’t all that special. There’s probably a similar dynamic at work with a lot of black athletes. They’re the campus stud at their (mostly black) high schools, where the girls are genreally looser anyway and happy to give them what they want. They arrive at college to find much prettier, smarter, and more charming white girls who also tend to be at least a little more chaste. It doesn’t go well. The white girls will hang out with them because they’re football players and they both like to party. The football players hang out with girls who won’t willingly sleep with them because they’re a lot prettier than the girls who will.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    If they are the "real deal", why didn't the women go to the police immediately so that their rapists could be arrested and indicted and tried and convicted and sentenced to prison? Isn't that what is supposed to happen with "real deal" rapists? 52 "rapes" and zero arrests let alone convictions - those police must really suck. Or else they are NOT the "real deal" but just "Elizabeth Doe" and her lawyers trying to cash in.

    Rape was originally the theft of a woman's chastity but I would bet you dollars to donuts that you couldn't find a enough chastity to fill a bottle cap among all 52 of these women. "Elizabeth Doe" is more like a prostitute who feels that she has not received her promised compensation, not a "rape victim". This should be viewed as a business dispute. When it is financially advantageous to them, suddenly modern "liberated" woman want to be treated as if they were chaste Victorian damsels.
    , @Barnard
    I think you are mostly right, the players generally accused in these stories typically aren't the stars of the team. Another factor is that the young women involved are typically already involved with the athletic department in some way. The story that came out of Minnesota earlier this year involved a young woman who worked at the football stadium.

    In almost every story, the woman is drunk, which probably contributes to the lack of criminal charges. One of the women in the Baylor article worked as an athletic department trainer, another was a hostess, Baylor discontinued the hostess group as a result of this scandal. The coaches are not directing the women to go sleep with the players, but do I think some of the women were recruited into the program because they have loose enough morals to do it on their own.



    http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18569197/latest-lawsuit-filed-baylor-university-alleges-culture-which-drugs-alcohol-sex-were-encouraged
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    This is pretty much correct.

    Except that it's not so much that white girls hang out with them. It's more that they show up at the parties where white girls are at and try to get them. Nobody tells the football players to leave, but nobody invites them either. They just show up. They follow women around campus and don't leave them alone. You don't choose to hang out with them - they force themselves into your social circle.

    Also, most of the white girls aren't that chaste. They just don't go for black guys. A lot of them are into preppy white guys who wear Abercrombie and ski. Not black hip hop and football/basketball types. As I mentioned above, a white athlete will often do much better than a black athlete. Especially if you look like Brady Quinn. If you fit that mold, you really are at the pinnacle of the American sexual pyramid.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Duc1g26uq2E

    White jocks actually are often as boorish and entitled as black jocks. They're not "gentlemen" by any means. They just typically don't need to rape anyone, as there are lots of decent-looking women who will give it up for free. They still behave like jerks though.

    Lots of black anger is sexual jealousy. Black guys overestimate their sexual appeal and get mad when white women don't recriprocate interest. When those same white women go with preppy white guys, that puzzles black guys - who see preppy guys as weak and lame. As for black women, they get angry when their men go crazy over white girls while white guys ignore them.

    If you've got a huge ego, it's not fun being reminded you're not at the top of the sexual totem pole. Especially if you happen to be a successful athlete.
    , @Johann Ricke

    Most of these alleged rapes are the real deal, and they’re all thanks to less than superstar athletes with 85 IQs and an entitlement mentality not getting what they think they deserve.
     
    Does the modern American woman strike you as a shrinking violet who will refrain from pursuing a rape allegation - at the time of the incident - in order to protect her (reputation for) virtue, such as it is? Or avoid the peril of an honor killing by her incensed family members? We live in neither 19th century America nor 21st century Pakistan.
    , @Curle
    "A lot of students who are near the top of their classes in high school go off to college only to discover they aren’t all that special."

    And now, with the rise of the non-college colleges (e.g., open admission online universities) I've seen the phenomenon among high school academic losers who nevertheless get money from the feds for college (because college fixes dumb, right?), often as a bene for military service, and these folks graduate from a school that actually targets the comparative low IQ (for college) but they now imagine themselves members of the cognitive elite. That they learned nothing in school that makes them more desirable to an employer only dawns on them when, after graduating, employer after employer reject their applications and they are back where they started. Only thousands of dollars in the hole (or the government is) but with an attitude that they are college material and have been screwed by some unseen force. End result is they start seeking out motivational speaking gigs or some other similar nonsense (diversity training, etc.) to eek out a living as newly minted 'college grads'.
  97. @Anon 2
    OT: Hiring freezes have been instituted at
    many colleges and universities in Missouri,
    Nebraska, and Connecticut. Missouri is the
    latest example. After the famous 2015 racial unrest
    at the University of Missouri in Columbia, which produced
    a 25% budget drop, the whole university system is now
    facing a severe budget cutback under the new Republican
    governor Eric Greitens.

    As someone who is based in academia, I have seen the
    salaries of the presidents, provosts, deans, coaches,
    department chairs, and administrators reach astronomical
    levels while the faculty salaries have been low and largely
    stagnant. There is plenty of money for diversity budgets,
    white privilege workshops, women's studies, and black studies
    while science, technology, and engineering departments are
    continually struggling with budget shortfalls. There is so much
    waste in the state university systems I wouldn't even know where
    to begin. Hopefully, as a result of the massive hiring freezes many
    of the frivolous degree programs will be eliminated.

    I read recently that a survey taken of the highest paid employees in the states across the country, it revealed that the head football coach was the highest paid of all state employees including the governor. The ongoing disgrace of this scandal is that the average tax payer goes along with this rape because they want a team that wins. What a bunch of morons who worship cretinous coaches and tolerate felonious crimes committed by the savage ball players. The worship of sports and athletes is the center of the downfall of the American State.

  98. “The woman, identified in the suit by the pseudonym Elizabeth Doe, reports being gang raped by then-Baylor football players Tre’Von Armstead and Shamycheal Chatman after a party on April 18, 2013. …”

    Tre’Von Armstead – no doubt of the Baltimore Armsteads. Shocking! Another WASP rape-scandal. Will the white privilege never end?

  99. @Tha Philosopher
    Art Briles should get the death penalty.

    A lot of the 52 women will have powerful dads. He may be lucky to be alive after a year actually even outside of prison.

    Ken Starr will then represent him and get him 12 months comm service after leaning on his judge buddy in return for millions in an offshore account or some bullshit deal where he points the finger on some of the players and gets a fine.

    Steve, since the justice system is morbidly corrupt at this point in America, what do you think about vigilantism?

    what do you think about vigilantism?

    Peace and social order are pretty valuable in this day and age, to the point where TPTB throw one of their own under the bus once in a while for maintenance purposes. But things could go too far one day, and then we have Iraq/Syria/Libya et al for an example.

  100. @Anon 2
    OT: Hiring freezes have been instituted at
    many colleges and universities in Missouri,
    Nebraska, and Connecticut. Missouri is the
    latest example. After the famous 2015 racial unrest
    at the University of Missouri in Columbia, which produced
    a 25% budget drop, the whole university system is now
    facing a severe budget cutback under the new Republican
    governor Eric Greitens.

    As someone who is based in academia, I have seen the
    salaries of the presidents, provosts, deans, coaches,
    department chairs, and administrators reach astronomical
    levels while the faculty salaries have been low and largely
    stagnant. There is plenty of money for diversity budgets,
    white privilege workshops, women's studies, and black studies
    while science, technology, and engineering departments are
    continually struggling with budget shortfalls. There is so much
    waste in the state university systems I wouldn't even know where
    to begin. Hopefully, as a result of the massive hiring freezes many
    of the frivolous degree programs will be eliminated.

    Hopefully, as a result of the massive hiring freezes many of the frivolous degree programs will be eliminated.

    Or they could just get rid of those superfluous science and engineering departments, and focus on the University’s core-competencies: Whiteness studies, Gender equity, LGBTQWERTY advocacy, and Sportsball.

    • Replies: @Truth
    Apparently, judging by what you comment upon, that's EXACTLY what they did at your school, 40 years ago, nymph.
  101. @Almost Missouri

    "the number of employed adults without health insurance is down more than 50%"
     
    That may be because the Obama recession has reduced the number of employed adults altogether, especially at the less insured lower wage scales.

    "Medical bankruptcies are also down significantly."
     
    Maybe because people are going broke from the premiums rather than the expenses now, or because everyone who could go "medically" bankrupt already did so at the start of the recession and since they can't declare bankruptcy again, the gov't can claim that bankruptcies are "down".

    Anyhow, how do they measure "medical" bankruptcies? It's not like there's a different filing for "medical bankruptcy" versus plain old bankruptcy. Most bankruptcies are the result of sustained expenses exceeding income. Expenses usually include food, clothing, shelter, energy, medical, etc. costs, yet we don't hear about "food bankruptcies" or "clothing bankruptcies" even though those costs are certainly part of any personal bankruptcy. Whoever is making this dubious distinction may have an agenda.

    Since the same government that created the Obamacare mess is the one producing the statistics about how well it works, I'm skeptical of the claims.

    Ann Coulter is affluent, as a best selling author, she may be a millionaire on paper, certainly she is at least upper middle class, yet she can't afford Obamacare.

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2017-01-25.html

    Anecdotally, the only non-welfare people I know who are happy with Obamacare are the ones who don't have it. For one reason or another they have some non-Obamacare insurance, but they get a thrill of self-satisfaction from believing that Obamacare is out there "insuring" everyone else, so they don't feel bad about their privilege.

    I know someone who pays $1,700 per month for her family of three (husband, wife, one child), and they have no real medical problems. They also have a very high annual deductible (maybe $5,000).

    • Replies: @Ivy
    The high premium and deductible are fairly standard in the Covered California world. People essentially pay to self-insure except for catastrophes, then do it all again the next year. No wonder insurance companies and pharma are reviled along with their politician facilitators.
    , @Almost Missouri
    In stark HBD terms, Obamacare is massive tax on the white and Asian middle class to subsidize the brown and black underclass.

    And political support shakes out more or less along those lines.
  102. @Ted Bell
    I was just about to write something similar. When I see criminal charges start getting filed, I'll take it more seriously. If someone were to rape my wife, assuming I didn't hunt him down myself, (which I would) we'd go to the police, not to a lawyer. Filing civil lawsuits for violent crimes makes me think more of Haven Monahan than of Jack the Ripper.

    On a different note, it's time we do something about the Doe family. They're clearly the most litigious people on earth. This is the first time I've heard of Elizabeth suing anyone. But I read about another lawsuit by John or Jane every day.

    Come to think of it, not only does the article not mention 52 indictments and convictions, it doesn’t even mention so much as 1 arrest. I know that our criminal justice system is not that efficient, but you would think that out of 52 “rapes” there would have been at least 1 guy arrested.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    Come to think of it, not only does the article not mention 52 indictments and convictions, it doesn’t even mention so much as 1 arrest. I know that our criminal justice system is not that efficient, but you would think that out of 52 “rapes” there would have been at least 1 guy arrested.
     
    Tevin Elliott, a former Baylor football player was sentenced to the maximum 20 years in prison and a $10,000 fine in January 2014 for sexually assaulting a former Baylor student in 2012.

    Sam Ukwuachu, who transferred from Boise State University to play football at Baylor (after being run out of Boise for violence against women), was convicted of sexually assaulting a Baylor soccer player in 2013.

    So that's two convictions for you, and of course there are allegations that the administration and the cops were working to protect the program. Throw in the interference of Title IX (why are universities supposed to be adjudicating rape charges?), and that explains a lot of the discrepancy.

  103. @Wilkey
    Most of these alleged rapes are the real deal, and they're all thanks to less than superstar athletes with 85 IQs and an entitlement mentality not getting what they think they deserve.

    A lot of students who are near the top of their classes in high school go off to college only to discover they aren't all that special. There's probably a similar dynamic at work with a lot of black athletes. They're the campus stud at their (mostly black) high schools, where the girls are genreally looser anyway and happy to give them what they want. They arrive at college to find much prettier, smarter, and more charming white girls who also tend to be at least a little more chaste. It doesn't go well. The white girls will hang out with them because they're football players and they both like to party. The football players hang out with girls who won't willingly sleep with them because they're a lot prettier than the girls who will.

    If they are the “real deal”, why didn’t the women go to the police immediately so that their rapists could be arrested and indicted and tried and convicted and sentenced to prison? Isn’t that what is supposed to happen with “real deal” rapists? 52 “rapes” and zero arrests let alone convictions – those police must really suck. Or else they are NOT the “real deal” but just “Elizabeth Doe” and her lawyers trying to cash in.

    Rape was originally the theft of a woman’s chastity but I would bet you dollars to donuts that you couldn’t find a enough chastity to fill a bottle cap among all 52 of these women. “Elizabeth Doe” is more like a prostitute who feels that she has not received her promised compensation, not a “rape victim”. This should be viewed as a business dispute. When it is financially advantageous to them, suddenly modern “liberated” woman want to be treated as if they were chaste Victorian damsels.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @Almost Missouri

    "This should be viewed as a business dispute. When it is financially advantageous to them, suddenly modern 'liberated' woman want to be treated as if they were chaste Victorian damsels."
     
    The progressive and forward-thinking court of New York City did exactly that ...

    ... in 1663!

    When it was still New Amsterdam, the court heard the case of Grietjen Hendricks Westercamp v. Pieter Jacobsen.

    Short version: Gretchen demanded that the court make Pete marry her because he had "lain" with her on promise to marry her. Pete admits the laying part, denies the marrying part, adduces evidence that Gretchen's not exactly exclusive about whom she lays with. Court considers totality of the evidence, releases Pete from marriage obligation but requires him to pay Gretchen a fee for services rendered. Kaboom! Justice rendered.

    The wisdom of our ancestors ... where has it gone?

  104. @Ed
    A buddy of mine pointed out that he occasionally sees some of the black male pornstars out in LA. He says they don't appear to have money. Which is odd because I thought they made money on the side in the cuckolding/swinger scene.

    A black person and his money are soon parted – old saying.

  105. @Jack D
    Come to think of it, not only does the article not mention 52 indictments and convictions, it doesn't even mention so much as 1 arrest. I know that our criminal justice system is not that efficient, but you would think that out of 52 "rapes" there would have been at least 1 guy arrested.

    Come to think of it, not only does the article not mention 52 indictments and convictions, it doesn’t even mention so much as 1 arrest. I know that our criminal justice system is not that efficient, but you would think that out of 52 “rapes” there would have been at least 1 guy arrested.

    Tevin Elliott, a former Baylor football player was sentenced to the maximum 20 years in prison and a $10,000 fine in January 2014 for sexually assaulting a former Baylor student in 2012.

    Sam Ukwuachu, who transferred from Boise State University to play football at Baylor (after being run out of Boise for violence against women), was convicted of sexually assaulting a Baylor soccer player in 2013.

    So that’s two convictions for you, and of course there are allegations that the administration and the cops were working to protect the program. Throw in the interference of Title IX (why are universities supposed to be adjudicating rape charges?), and that explains a lot of the discrepancy.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    (why are universities supposed to be adjudicating rape charges?)

    The local DA could stop that shit with a few well aimed charges of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.
  106. @BB753
    Is this a case of a willing coed getting more action than she bargained for, or "regret" rape (my God, did I really do it with deShawn, Shantivius and the rest of the team last night? What will my fiance think?) I have zero sympathy for girls who socialize with athletes. Groupies is the most lenient word for them.

    Dude, you don’t need to make up stupid black names. They’re names are actually Tre’Von and Shamycheal. Anyhow this is all just more of the psychosexual interplay between bucks, cucks and coalburners that’s so common in terminal stage American culture. My gut feeling is that everyone including the white male fan base is culpable and that the more I knew the less sympathy I’d have for anyone involved in this. I’ve read so many of these stories I can’t even be angry at Shamycheal anymore.

    • Agree: BB753, sayless
  107. @Long Turd
    The easiest way to reduce healthcare costs is to reduce healthcare. That's the solution or the problem depending on your goal.

    But that would require saying the dreaded R word — Rationing. Nobody wants to hear it, but it is the only way to keep costs under control.

  108. @Almost Missouri
    From the linked article:

    [John] Clune, who has represented four Baylor survivors, including two who received settlements with the university, defended the thoroughness of his investigation.

    "We have no idea how the regents came up with their numbers, but they do not represent the total number of assaults," he said. "I'm not sure that was Pepper's assignment either."
     

    Attorney Clune is alleging at least 52 rapes, including five gang rapes, by 31 football players in a four-year period. (The university is copping to only 17 rapes or "domestic assaults" involving 19 players, including 4 gang rapes, since 2011.)

    It sounds like this Clune guy knows where the bodies are metaphorically buried and is prepared to make a big payday out of it.

    Don't lay any wagers in favor of Baylor football.

    represented four Baylor survivors

    “Survivors”? Is that what we once used to call “graduates”?

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    It's what we used to call "victims", before claiming to be a "victim" and "oppressed" became desirable.
  109. @Anonymous
    What do you call a man who eagerly offers up his women? A cuck.

    Name what you notice. Always call it Baylor Cuckball from now on.

    Certainly a fresh take on ‘in loco parentis’.

  110. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike Sylwester
    I've told this story here before, but I'll repeat it now.

    In Eugene, Oregon, in 1975, there was a decathlon competition among competitors from the USA, USSR and Poland. I was a Slavic-language graduate student who could speak Russian and Polish, and so I was asked to serve as an interpreter. I spent about a week with the Soviet and Polish teams.

    During that time, I observed the sexual opportunities that these world-class athletes enjoyed.

    A few extremely beautiful coeds were associated with the UO athletic department. They wore department shirts and interacted with department staff. I saw that each Polish athlete got to spend a night with one of these coeds, if he wanted to do so. The athletes bragged about it on the following mornings.

    In addition, various local girls came onto these athletes. I knew some of the girls, because they studied the Russian language at the university. They wanted to spend time with the Russian athletes to practice their Russian. The Russians said, basically, that they were interested in spending such time only if the girls agreed in advance to have sex with them. Some of those coeds agreed, and some did not.

    Some of the eager girls did not study Russian or Polish, but they wanted to spend time with the athletes. A couple of local girls invited me and the Polish team's trainer to their home for a spaghetti dinner. They were insulted that we did not bring wine, and we did not get anywhere with them. I was married, and the Polish trainer was shy.

    Anyway, I saw that top athletes enjoy continual sexual opportunities that ordinary guys can only fantasize about.

    Bruce Jenner won that competition. I interpreted for him. I remember seeing his gorgeous wife Chrissie weeping and running toward joyfully him as he won the last race. I took an interest in her and paid attention as his divorce was reported in the tabloids during the following years. She blamed herself for the divorce, saying that she was frigid.

    This type of behavior is commonplace with Olympic type athletes. When the Paki Cricketer Imran Khan was touring England, Australia, New Zealand etc., there were lines of young women who “wanted to have his baby”. May be someday when genetic archaeologists do their DNA tests, they will find out Imran Khan has as many descendants as Genghis Khan.

  111. @Wilkey
    Most of these alleged rapes are the real deal, and they're all thanks to less than superstar athletes with 85 IQs and an entitlement mentality not getting what they think they deserve.

    A lot of students who are near the top of their classes in high school go off to college only to discover they aren't all that special. There's probably a similar dynamic at work with a lot of black athletes. They're the campus stud at their (mostly black) high schools, where the girls are genreally looser anyway and happy to give them what they want. They arrive at college to find much prettier, smarter, and more charming white girls who also tend to be at least a little more chaste. It doesn't go well. The white girls will hang out with them because they're football players and they both like to party. The football players hang out with girls who won't willingly sleep with them because they're a lot prettier than the girls who will.

    I think you are mostly right, the players generally accused in these stories typically aren’t the stars of the team. Another factor is that the young women involved are typically already involved with the athletic department in some way. The story that came out of Minnesota earlier this year involved a young woman who worked at the football stadium.

    In almost every story, the woman is drunk, which probably contributes to the lack of criminal charges. One of the women in the Baylor article worked as an athletic department trainer, another was a hostess, Baylor discontinued the hostess group as a result of this scandal. The coaches are not directing the women to go sleep with the players, but do I think some of the women were recruited into the program because they have loose enough morals to do it on their own.

    http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18569197/latest-lawsuit-filed-baylor-university-alleges-culture-which-drugs-alcohol-sex-were-encouraged

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    I played at a Division 3 college, and it was well known that the women student trainers would give it up for most of the athletes.
  112. @RonaldB
    A student 18 or 19 years of age is not exactly ready to manifest the independence of character needed to ignore a trusted authority figure. I think a lot hinges on the implicit, or explicit, contract between Baylor and the parents who pay the tuition.

    If parents entrust their children to the college on the grounds that the college assumes a certain responsibility for their well-being, then there is definitely a dereliction of contract when a college authority, as a representative of the college, gives them abominable advice.

    Of course, Baylor could defend against the lawsuit by asserting that its students are adults and completely on their own as far as making decisions. I'd actually like to see them make that defense in a public forum like the court. That would do wonders for recruiting actual students and alumni support.

    They are legal adults outside of school. Inside, they’re still kids, because parents are footing the bill, like with health insurance? But there is no in loco parentis anymore. Colleges can’t enforce curfews or have chaperones. They can’t do anything, really, to stop kids from killing themselves with sex and booze, except kicking kids out (without due process) after the fact.

    Yet they’re supposedly responsible. This is anarcho-tyranny.

    What we’re left with is a parody of responsibility. Laughable “blue light” systems and rape seminars every incoming student is forced to sit through to which no one pays attention. Four years of chaos and debauchery follow. Then when bad things inevitably happen, it’s the college’s fault? Why? Because adults, over whom they are afforded little to no power, lived in and around their campus while their parents subsidized their bad decisions.

    I can’t be the only one this comes off as untenable to. Either bring back in loco parentis or treat campus rape like a crime in any other part of the city.

  113. @Wilkey
    Most of these alleged rapes are the real deal, and they're all thanks to less than superstar athletes with 85 IQs and an entitlement mentality not getting what they think they deserve.

    A lot of students who are near the top of their classes in high school go off to college only to discover they aren't all that special. There's probably a similar dynamic at work with a lot of black athletes. They're the campus stud at their (mostly black) high schools, where the girls are genreally looser anyway and happy to give them what they want. They arrive at college to find much prettier, smarter, and more charming white girls who also tend to be at least a little more chaste. It doesn't go well. The white girls will hang out with them because they're football players and they both like to party. The football players hang out with girls who won't willingly sleep with them because they're a lot prettier than the girls who will.

    This is pretty much correct.

    Except that it’s not so much that white girls hang out with them. It’s more that they show up at the parties where white girls are at and try to get them. Nobody tells the football players to leave, but nobody invites them either. They just show up. They follow women around campus and don’t leave them alone. You don’t choose to hang out with them – they force themselves into your social circle.

    Also, most of the white girls aren’t that chaste. They just don’t go for black guys. A lot of them are into preppy white guys who wear Abercrombie and ski. Not black hip hop and football/basketball types. As I mentioned above, a white athlete will often do much better than a black athlete. Especially if you look like Brady Quinn. If you fit that mold, you really are at the pinnacle of the American sexual pyramid.

    White jocks actually are often as boorish and entitled as black jocks. They’re not “gentlemen” by any means. They just typically don’t need to rape anyone, as there are lots of decent-looking women who will give it up for free. They still behave like jerks though.

    Lots of black anger is sexual jealousy. Black guys overestimate their sexual appeal and get mad when white women don’t recriprocate interest. When those same white women go with preppy white guys, that puzzles black guys – who see preppy guys as weak and lame. As for black women, they get angry when their men go crazy over white girls while white guys ignore them.

    If you’ve got a huge ego, it’s not fun being reminded you’re not at the top of the sexual totem pole. Especially if you happen to be a successful athlete.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    This is a nice theory about blacks showing up unwanted, but the article mentions two rapes that happened after girls went, sober, to the homes of black players. Anyway, this Doe was a member of a group tasked with attracting athletes to the school. What do women think they are attracting the athletes with? Their brains and charisma? And it's football: they don't know they're there to give an implicit offer of pussy to black giys? Please.

    The lawsuit says that Doe originally applied to Baylor, the world's largest Baptist university, because of its Christian-centered approach to education... Doe attended a party... Doe became intoxicated at the party and apparently returned home with Armstead and Chatman.
     
    It's that old time religion she wanted!
  114. @JohnnyWalker123
    No. This is a case of athletes overestimating their appeal to women and behaving aggressively around any female in their vicinity.

    Trust me. Most of these athletes aren't that successful with women, but they think they should. A lot of universities look the other way when these guys act out.

    Right. Because these rapes happened in the library, right? These football players are so unsuccessful with women that none of them will go drinking with them at night in venues that have couches, beds, etc. So the players have to walk into the library and drag the girls away from their studies.

  115. @Anon
    Any white guy who watched American Football is a cuck-roach.

    What is it a celebration of? Black guys whupping white guys and humping white girls.

    This is something a white guy wants to cheer to?

    US and EU are both turning into crap with Negromania.

    “Any white guy who watched American Football is a cuck-roach.

    What is it a celebration of? Black guys whupping white guys and humping white girls.”

    Not always. Since you don’t watch football, I’ll let you know the NFL’s Whitest and only majority-White team, the Patriots, is in the Super Bowl again — and their White men routinely whup black guys all day long on the gridiron.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    And the white bread Patriots will do it again in about 8 days to the Atlanta Falcons.
  116. @donut
    "Why not increase the supply of physicians, by loaning or giving medical schools money to expand, and similarly encouraging hospitals to increase their number of clerkship's, internships, and residencies accordingly?"

    From own experience the profession is already swamped with Indians , Pakis , Africans and Asians . The Indian physician is a cliche . That's the way the industry is increasing the supply of MDs. As doctors they range from very good to dangerous just like our own home grown doctors do . The Indian/Paki and Arab doctors do seem to specialize in Medicare fraud more than the American docs but maybe they just get caught more often .
    I think one of the biggest obstacles to affordable health care is the insurance industry which really got rolling in the middle of the last century . Before that the patient paid . Now unless you are rich a week in the hospital will put you in the poor house and boy do they pad the bill . Insurance is a racket , they drive the prices up until you can't see a doctor without insurance and now we can't afford either the doctor or the insurance . What service exactly do they provide for all that money ?
    As of the present there isn't widespread insurance for animals but they are trying to weasel their way in there too . You have a pet that needs to see the vet. you can afford it , it might sting but you can pay out of pocket . In the 90's I had a dog that needed orthopedic Sx. on her knee . 650-700 bucks and she got spade at the same time , In NYC. A human would probably have to pay more than that for an office visit and a pre-op workup .
    But as I see it the whole healthcare industry is irrational and and beyond fixing , just another one of societies institutions heading for collapse . All my hopes are riding on a fatal heart attack just about the time my money runs out . 2-5 more years maybe . I just pray that I outlive my car .

    So, donut – you’re not just a nut, after all.

    Interesting comment.

    • Replies: @donut
    Oh , don't be deceived I am a nut .
  117. @JohnnyWalker123
    This is pretty much correct.

    Except that it's not so much that white girls hang out with them. It's more that they show up at the parties where white girls are at and try to get them. Nobody tells the football players to leave, but nobody invites them either. They just show up. They follow women around campus and don't leave them alone. You don't choose to hang out with them - they force themselves into your social circle.

    Also, most of the white girls aren't that chaste. They just don't go for black guys. A lot of them are into preppy white guys who wear Abercrombie and ski. Not black hip hop and football/basketball types. As I mentioned above, a white athlete will often do much better than a black athlete. Especially if you look like Brady Quinn. If you fit that mold, you really are at the pinnacle of the American sexual pyramid.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Duc1g26uq2E

    White jocks actually are often as boorish and entitled as black jocks. They're not "gentlemen" by any means. They just typically don't need to rape anyone, as there are lots of decent-looking women who will give it up for free. They still behave like jerks though.

    Lots of black anger is sexual jealousy. Black guys overestimate their sexual appeal and get mad when white women don't recriprocate interest. When those same white women go with preppy white guys, that puzzles black guys - who see preppy guys as weak and lame. As for black women, they get angry when their men go crazy over white girls while white guys ignore them.

    If you've got a huge ego, it's not fun being reminded you're not at the top of the sexual totem pole. Especially if you happen to be a successful athlete.

    This is a nice theory about blacks showing up unwanted, but the article mentions two rapes that happened after girls went, sober, to the homes of black players. Anyway, this Doe was a member of a group tasked with attracting athletes to the school. What do women think they are attracting the athletes with? Their brains and charisma? And it’s football: they don’t know they’re there to give an implicit offer of pussy to black giys? Please.

    The lawsuit says that Doe originally applied to Baylor, the world’s largest Baptist university, because of its Christian-centered approach to education… Doe attended a party… Doe became intoxicated at the party and apparently returned home with Armstead and Chatman.

    It’s that old time religion she wanted!

  118. @Almost Missouri
    I've seen no evidence that Trump voters like Obamacare.

    Even if it were politically smart to leave ACA in place despite its unpopularity, how long can the Repubs plausibly claim to be unable to do anything about it when they're in their seventh year of House majority, their third year of Senate majority, and now have the White House? (Hint: normal people don't care about cloture.)

    Eventually this thing is going to hang around Republican necks too. They may as well have it hung for something they did rather than something they didn't do.

    “They may as well have it hung for something they did rather than something they didn’t do.”

    Agreed. Obamacare has been a gigantic train-wreck. Quite possibly even worse than the insane system (or lack thereof) that preceded it.

  119. @Anonymous
    Ken Starr, Baylor President, also resigned over the scandal for suppressing suits and buying off women.

    Follow his history. He is a consummate deep state groom. Foreign policy fraternity at college, clerking with DC judge, married to a jew (like Dimon), defended Jerry Epstein against paedophilia charges and moved to defend Blackwater mercenaries for murders in Iraq.

    The man is a piece of the swamp. The constellation.

    He is probably a psychopath.

    I've seen too many of these bios that remind me a bit of Allen Dulles. Read the Devil's Chessboard. Its the greatest historical work of the past half century. 700 pages with 70 pages of citations, references and actual interviews with relatives of the deep state operatives.

    That much about Ken Starr and you don’t mention Bill Clinton? Interesting.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Starr

  120. @Anonymous
    Ken Starr, Baylor President, also resigned over the scandal for suppressing suits and buying off women.

    Follow his history. He is a consummate deep state groom. Foreign policy fraternity at college, clerking with DC judge, married to a jew (like Dimon), defended Jerry Epstein against paedophilia charges and moved to defend Blackwater mercenaries for murders in Iraq.

    The man is a piece of the swamp. The constellation.

    He is probably a psychopath.

    I've seen too many of these bios that remind me a bit of Allen Dulles. Read the Devil's Chessboard. Its the greatest historical work of the past half century. 700 pages with 70 pages of citations, references and actual interviews with relatives of the deep state operatives.

    Thanks for recommending “The Devil’s Chessboard;” I’ll be picking up a copy.

  121. @Dave Pinsen
    I'm guessing you didn't see Trump's speech at the Republican retreat in Philadelphia this week. He acknowledged that, politically, the smart thing to do would be nothing, and that if they did nothing, the ACA would collapse within two years. But then he said that it wouldn't be right for them not to fix it, so he wanted to fix it.

    If I were Trump, before replacing Obamacare, I'd focus on steps to make healthcare more affordable. Why not increase the supply of physicians, by loaning or giving medical schools money to expand, and similarly encouraging hospitals to increase their number of clerkships, internships, and residencies accordingly? Tom Price, MD may not suggest that, but supply and demand ought to work in healthcare as in other fields, I'd think.

    The effective supply of doctors has already been increased with PAs and NPs, which expand the number of patients per doctor that clinics can serve. It hasn’t controlled costs. A lot of doctors are not making that much anyhow.

    In the end, the only effective way to control costs will be to deny and delay services. People just haven’t accepted this yet.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Increasing supply plus automation reduces costs in other fields. Should work in healthcare too. There's already an app that claims to be 10x more accurate than physicians at primary care diagnosis.
    , @stillCARealist
    PA school is pretty hard to get into, and dark skin and being female are really important for diversity, don't you know.

    Look at law schools, they're having to compete for students because the need for more lawyers is declining. Not so at med and PA schools. They turn away people in droves (I have two relatives who applied vigorously for both, with top scores and experience, only to be rejected by all but their last choice schools). I'd say new ones can't be opened fast enough. It'd be nice if we could have our medical pros be educated here in the US instead of importing what the Third World has to offer.
  122. @Connecticut Famer
    I wonder how Genius T Coates would spin this one.

    Racist white women trying to deny the black man his due?
    Inadequate attention to black bodies?

    • Replies: @Dissident
    Variation on BLM: BPM...
  123. @bomag
    Baylor enabled and facilitated the rapes far beyond the point where they would have happened otherwise, thus they bear some culpability.

    We should guide our high functioning young women into forming and raising families, but we seem to be in an age where we "harvest" them for other purposes; not only as bait for football recruits, but we offer them up to the harem of corporate sterility, Hollywood glamour, etc. This does not look like a path for long term success.

    I blame the feminists for this sad result. They have convinced young women that they basically are as horny as men and that they should – like men have traditionally done – sleep around. The men therefore treat them more like sluts than proper young women – because that is what they have made of themselves – and the women walk around in a quandary wondering why they are so unhappy.

    • Replies: @Curle
    Yes, but some percentage of them that otherwise would have completely avoided lesbianism will try it, if only as an experiment and if only for a short period of time, thereby achieving the goal of feminism, to increase the supply of sexual partners for lesbians. Feminism is just a means to use politics as a cover for sexual market competition. Knew a gal when I was younger who attended a NOW convention once and described it as nothing more than an excuse for lesbians to get together and recruit new talent.
  124. There’s plenty of reason to think sexual aggression by male athletes would be high to begin with, but I wonder if it might not be amplified by the circumstances of college athletics.

    For four years, you’re a very high-status male in a fishbowl environment. But if you don’t make it to the pros (and most of them know they’re not going to), that status pretty much evaporates after you leave campus. You may or may not have a degree; if you do, most prospective employers assume it’s worthless. Unless you impress a rich alum who gives you a job at his car dealership, you’re probably going back to your home town to teach P.E. and be an assistant coach at your old high school.

    So I can see where there may be an additional incentive to get as much as you can while you can.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    "Unless you impress a rich alum who gives you a job at his car dealership, you’re probably going back to your home town to teach P.E. and be an assistant coach at your old high school."

    That's the best case scenario. Equally likely for a Dindu in these circumstances is just to have an extended trip (one to four years of it in First Class) in the skoo' to prison pipeline.
    , @Olorin
    You seriously think JaMyC'hal and Quan'-Tavi0uz think that far ahead?
  125. @dc.sunsets
    BS. An 18 year old definitely is old enough to exhibit adult caution. What you describe is an abject failure by mommy & daddy as parents.

    Herd behavior may be normal but it isn't required.

    Colleges promise orgies & hedonism to prospective students and their parents. I was there at parent orientation when a school admissions employee all but promised that all the students would be screwing like bunnies. Parents who don't deprogram their kids ahead of time are MORONS.

    a school admissions employee all but promised that all the students would be screwing like bunnies.

    I am curious what choice words are used to advertise this feature?

  126. @Long Turd
    The easiest way to reduce healthcare costs is to reduce healthcare. That's the solution or the problem depending on your goal.

    Exactly. The media should be doing their job in informing people that annual physical exams are a waste of the physician’s time and your dollars, that most of physical therapy is useless, and that you should not visit a doctor’s office if you have cold or flu symptoms because you only spread contagion. Then little-by-little you should educate people that using an emergency room for non-emergency care is a waste of everyone’s time and expertise. Then you should change the insurance structure – allowing people to sign up for catastrophic coverage, eliminating employer-sponsored insurance to be considered tax-free income for the employees, allowing nurses to handle more procedures, etc., etc. And we basically should pay no more for prescription drugs than the Canadians and the Europeans – we are being ripped off and the government is not enforcing the anti-trust laws to stop it.

  127. @Barnard
    I think you are mostly right, the players generally accused in these stories typically aren't the stars of the team. Another factor is that the young women involved are typically already involved with the athletic department in some way. The story that came out of Minnesota earlier this year involved a young woman who worked at the football stadium.

    In almost every story, the woman is drunk, which probably contributes to the lack of criminal charges. One of the women in the Baylor article worked as an athletic department trainer, another was a hostess, Baylor discontinued the hostess group as a result of this scandal. The coaches are not directing the women to go sleep with the players, but do I think some of the women were recruited into the program because they have loose enough morals to do it on their own.



    http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18569197/latest-lawsuit-filed-baylor-university-alleges-culture-which-drugs-alcohol-sex-were-encouraged

    I played at a Division 3 college, and it was well known that the women student trainers would give it up for most of the athletes.

  128. @AnotherDad
    Disgusting, embarrassing.

    When is there going to be some college presidents or board of trustees who are willing to stand up for their mission. Sure it's difficult because of "racist!" and, of course, all the money. But, be a man or woman and do your job--stand up and pull the plug on this nonsense.

    You can join the University of Chicago in being a university.

    Or if intercollegiate athletics is a part of the culture you want to keep, then form a league with other like minded colleges and universities, that you won't recruit--no reduced admission standards, no promised scholarships. You'll simply have tryouts for teams from the actual student body. Could offer the ones that make it "scholarships" that are essentially the same as other campus jobs.

    Better, i'd say is a culture of intramural sports. Let the co-eds root on the atheletic guys playing each other. Or play co-ed intramural softball with them. Either way they are at least association with young men who are appropriate husbands for them. That's what a young woman's beauty is best used for--landing a guy who has high husband\father potential. Not as a t-and-a fishing lure to get some thug to bite on a recruitment pitch.

    The pathetic, cucked, go-along-get-along nature of supposed white "adults" is embarrasing. Take a stand for civilization.

    “You can join the University of Chicago in being a university.”

    Studied there, as an under-graduate, 1976-8. Taught there, as a Schmidt Fellow, 1994-7.

    Yeah, it was a real university, with lotsa serious stuff going on, and not much sports-worship.

    It was also insanely gay & jewish.

    Straight gentile males were not much in evidence.

    Sports-worship is pretty much the religion of straight gentile males. Give them a jock to sniff, and many of them are yours for life.

    • Replies: @benjaminl
    Sounds a lot like my experience with U of C's New England cousins in the 1990s and 2000s. Very very gay, very very Jewish (and Northeast Asian), and little or nothing to do with the sports of the white gentile males.
  129. @dc.sunsets
    Karl Denninger offers the most insightful explanation for why the medical services industry is a disaster.

    Look him up market-ticker.org

    Glad to see so many Denninger fans here. I always knew isteve commenters were smart.

  130. @Wilkey
    Most of these alleged rapes are the real deal, and they're all thanks to less than superstar athletes with 85 IQs and an entitlement mentality not getting what they think they deserve.

    A lot of students who are near the top of their classes in high school go off to college only to discover they aren't all that special. There's probably a similar dynamic at work with a lot of black athletes. They're the campus stud at their (mostly black) high schools, where the girls are genreally looser anyway and happy to give them what they want. They arrive at college to find much prettier, smarter, and more charming white girls who also tend to be at least a little more chaste. It doesn't go well. The white girls will hang out with them because they're football players and they both like to party. The football players hang out with girls who won't willingly sleep with them because they're a lot prettier than the girls who will.

    Most of these alleged rapes are the real deal, and they’re all thanks to less than superstar athletes with 85 IQs and an entitlement mentality not getting what they think they deserve.

    Does the modern American woman strike you as a shrinking violet who will refrain from pursuing a rape allegation – at the time of the incident – in order to protect her (reputation for) virtue, such as it is? Or avoid the peril of an honor killing by her incensed family members? We live in neither 19th century America nor 21st century Pakistan.

  131. @Anonymous
    The old English saying as used by such luminaries as Bernard Manning, Jim Davidson etc, is 'stirring another man's porridge'.

    I guess that’s better than “drinking another man’s milkshake”!

  132. @Dave Pinsen
    I'm guessing you didn't see Trump's speech at the Republican retreat in Philadelphia this week. He acknowledged that, politically, the smart thing to do would be nothing, and that if they did nothing, the ACA would collapse within two years. But then he said that it wouldn't be right for them not to fix it, so he wanted to fix it.

    If I were Trump, before replacing Obamacare, I'd focus on steps to make healthcare more affordable. Why not increase the supply of physicians, by loaning or giving medical schools money to expand, and similarly encouraging hospitals to increase their number of clerkships, internships, and residencies accordingly? Tom Price, MD may not suggest that, but supply and demand ought to work in healthcare as in other fields, I'd think.

    Physician salaries account for less than 10% of healthcare costs. If you cut their salaries in half, you will completely destroy the profession while achieving an “incredible” 5% reduction in healthcare spending. At the annual rate of growth in healthcare spending of 3%, these “savings” will be eaten up in less than 2 years.

    On the other hand, you will be left with a decrepit system where the people doing the work are completely demoralized, and the only people entering medical schools are retards who don’t realize that going $300k into debt and working for free for the first decade of their post-college life to get a $100k salary at the end for horrendous work hours in the most stressful of conditions is the worst deal in the history of bad deals.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Physicians' incomes aren't limited to their salaries. They often have ownership stakes in surgical centers, labs, etc. And some of the fees they charge are outrageous (e.g., a $117k bill for an operation from an assistant surgeon: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/21/us/drive-by-doctoring-surprise-medical-bills.html?_r=0 ).

    Look, no need to reinvent the wheel. There are high-quality, workable healthcare/health insurance set-ups elsewhere in the world (France, Switzerland, Singapore). Why not borrow from what works?

  133. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @cucksworth
    As a guy who played division 3 football at a UAA League school(humble brag), I cannot fathom these rednecks in Tennessee for instance who have no connection to a school (didn't even go to college) getting all excited over their university of random fly over state with small population football squad.

    Also, football has become boarder line barbaric, and I am so glad ratings are down. My very smart cousin who played in a superbowl (nother brag) can imagine the day when football is over and finished as a sport.

    The Right should invoke multiculturalism and diversity to call for separate balls.

    We need the concept of Our Balls. So, let blacks have their footballs and let whites have their footballs. Let blacks play with their balls, and let whites play with their balls.

    Because blacks are superior in speed and power, they dominate all big sports. And that means other races don’t get to play.

    Since ‘white’ is associated with bad stuff, the Right should make this case by pointing to Mexicans, Asians, Hindus, and Muslims. They are SHUT OUT of the game. So, let them play with their balls in their own games. Let them invoke ‘our balls’.

    That way, blacks can cheer for their blacks and their balls.
    Mexicans can cheer for their browns and their balls.
    Whites can cheer for their whites and their balls.

    Each should be proud of ‘our balls’.

    And this wouldn’t be discriminatory since the non-black sports would be predicated not only HAVING THE BEST ATHLETES but as providing SAFE SPACES or SAFE FIELDS for non-black athletes who can’t compete with the mofos.

  134. @Anonymous
    When I was in college in the early 90's, my university had had a big successful football program for many years. They had an official club for female football groupies called, "Husker Hostesses". They basically recruited hot white girls who liked jocks to become hostesses to attend parties with the football players and make them feel important.

    They basically recruited hot white girls who liked jocks to become hostesses to attend parties with the football players and make them feel important.

    And blow them

  135. @dc.sunsets
    Chimps do this. When a female goes into heat, every male in the troop has a go at her, one after another.

    There's a point here, but I'm at a loss to put my finger on it. /LOL

    I have no doubt that’s been a common feature of all human history. Which means at some level women must enjoy and actually welcome gang rape. Which makes me a little sick to admit, but that may just be my Current Year ignorance at work.

    Point is, we don’t know where female invitation and enjoyment begins and ends, nor what is and is not rape, especially in these days of normalized debauchery. (Which doesn’t require everyone to be debauched, just that those who are aren’t freaks or monsters anymore.) Which is why in the Bad Old Days our civilization kept women on a leash. You may not like that approach, but bear in mind that the modern college campus offers absolutely ZERO solution. They couldn’t even if they wanted to.

    We’re in a No Man’s Land between the old ways and whatever solution the emerging gynocracy will come up with. Probably something out of Aristophanes.

    • Replies: @Whoever
    It's called sperm competition.
    An interesting aspect of sperm competition is that the man whose sperm are superior doesn't spend much effort in mate-guarding. He knows his sperm will win. It's the reproductively weaker males who are concerned with cuckoldry.
    From the abstract of the article cited:

    We found that men who performed fewer mate guarding behaviors produced higher quality ejaculates, having a greater concentration of sperm, a higher percentage of motile sperm and sperm that swam faster and less erratically.

    I suppose we could draw all sorts of loosely-tied-to-reality socio-political conclusions from this: Is the Muslim world full of reproductively weak males, perhaps because of all that cousin marriage, and that's why they make their women wear Hefty bags in public? Is the hedonistic West full of reproductively strong males, perhaps because everybody is enthusiastically porking everybody else at every opportunity? Is the alt-right full of guys whose sperm can't dance, that's why they seem to be obsessed with cuck this and cuck that? Is the....

    , @AnotherDad

    I have no doubt that’s been a common feature of all human history. Which means at some level women must enjoy and actually welcome gang rape. Which makes me a little sick to admit, but that may just be my Current Year ignorance at work.
     
    It means no such thing, as should be obvious.

    Men have been beating other men over the head for all of human history. It doesn't mean men welcome being beat over the head, it simply means it's reproductively successful for some men to beat other men over the head. Likewise here. It's reproductively successful for some men to gang rape--specifically to gang rape women that belong to some other tribe\clan; women that they are not going to be able to, or do not want to claim as their own, support\marry. It's a sign of tribal primitivism and lack of civilization.
    , @sayless
    "...at some level women must enjoy and actually welcome gang rape."

    No. The word "rape" implies, "against my consent". No one enjoys being marauded. Lots of terror (will I still be alive when this is over?) and physical pain is involved.

    You are no rapist, clearly.

  136. @Jack D
    52 acts of rape, including five gang rapes, between 2011 and 2014 — an estimate that far exceeds the number previously provided by school officials.

    Unless there were 52 men indicted and convicted, there weren't 52 rapes. Keep in mind this is a lawsuit where someone is looking to cash in, so they want to make things seem as dire as possible.
    Rape is a word that has (thanks to feminists) become extremely devalued and doesn't actually mean "rape" anymore.

    “Unless there were 52 men indicted and convicted, there weren’t 52 rapes. ”

    Do you mean to say that one man is incapable of committing more than one rape? You completely discredit the validity of the remainder of your post with that one I’ m sorry to say.

  137. @Anon7
    The veterinary medicine racket is amazing. My family's "free" barn cat was bitten by another animal, and the total cost was $1,200. They're learning fast.

    I'd also point out that (based on my observations of my friend's daughter, currently in vet school) at least 80 percent of veterinary medicine students are female. They know a racket when they see one. Ten percent of the pressure of med school, and 100 percent of the money that pediatricians make. Smart.

    Did you look that up ? Or was that a lucky guess ? Any way it’s right on the money . I am going to guess that weight of the cost of your barn cat’s treatment was in meds rather Dr. fees . All the same $1200 is nothing to what it costs to treat a urinary infection in the hosp.

  138. @Darwin's Sh-tlist
    There's plenty of reason to think sexual aggression by male athletes would be high to begin with, but I wonder if it might not be amplified by the circumstances of college athletics.

    For four years, you're a very high-status male in a fishbowl environment. But if you don't make it to the pros (and most of them know they're not going to), that status pretty much evaporates after you leave campus. You may or may not have a degree; if you do, most prospective employers assume it's worthless. Unless you impress a rich alum who gives you a job at his car dealership, you're probably going back to your home town to teach P.E. and be an assistant coach at your old high school.

    So I can see where there may be an additional incentive to get as much as you can while you can.

    “Unless you impress a rich alum who gives you a job at his car dealership, you’re probably going back to your home town to teach P.E. and be an assistant coach at your old high school.”

    That’s the best case scenario. Equally likely for a Dindu in these circumstances is just to have an extended trip (one to four years of it in First Class) in the skoo’ to prison pipeline.

  139. @whorefinder
    Hard to tell what is true. It could be one of four things:

    1. Sluts get banged by football players, and now trying to profit from it in the current atmosphere of "any accusation by a woman of any rape is 110% all the proof needed."

    2. Local paid hookers, ahem, booster girls, slept with some recruits, word got out about it, the program shut down, and now the out-of-work street walkers (sorry, booster girls) are trying to save face and make some money back.

    3. Actual, grab-her-in-the-dark-in-a-park rape.

    4. As Steve has pointed out, the slut agrees to sleep with Jock A, only to have a train unwillingly run on her by Jock's B-Z.

    It's probably a combination of all four.

    BTW, there is a different tactic some college boosters are using to sex up their recruits. Instead of getting a local skank factory to give it up, they hire an 18 year old boy's fantasy---a real life porn star---and she sexes up the kid beyond his wildest dreams:

    https://www.tmz.com/2014/10/23/notre-dame-football-justin-brent-lisa-ann-date-knicks-game/

    Of course the problem with that is, when the information gets out into the media, it becomes painfully obvious that she was hired to do so. Especially when he's taking in Knick games in New York with the woman when he goes to school in Indiana and she does her "career" in LA.

    To his credit, Ken Starr not only “accepted responsibility”, he resigned his post as Chancellor and as a law professor. I have a friend who knows him well and she says he is a good guy. Perhaps too naive.

    • Replies: @whorefinder
    Oh give me a break. Yeah, and the heads of Notre Dame and Alabama also have "no idea' their players are paid, given hookers and coke, and are taking courses that grant them automatic passes for being jocks.
  140. @Anon7
    The veterinary medicine racket is amazing. My family's "free" barn cat was bitten by another animal, and the total cost was $1,200. They're learning fast.

    I'd also point out that (based on my observations of my friend's daughter, currently in vet school) at least 80 percent of veterinary medicine students are female. They know a racket when they see one. Ten percent of the pressure of med school, and 100 percent of the money that pediatricians make. Smart.

    The vet business seems to be overrun with lesbians in my experience.

    Vet school is harder to get into than med school. Many students go abroad.

  141. @yaqub the mad scientist
    Ta Nishi Coates pretty much replaced guys like Nathan McCall as black intellectuals because he was more ready for prime time- exhibiting none of the aggressive pathologies. I was stunned how McCall was upheld as something great after reading his sickening memoir where he repeatedly discusses running a train on girls with his friends, including a couple of instances where the girl was clearly kidnapped, and he showed absolutely no remorse at all. It was one of those experiences where I realized there was something fucked in the head about the Left that went far beyond politics.

    Yeah, it's a thing in a lot of black communities, and it's common.

    Agree. McCall is a nasty piece of work, born too late to be a Black Panther.

  142. Tre’Von and Shamycheal huh? They sound like the typical toned, tanned, and blond rapists we see terrorizing college campuses every day. Sabrina Rudin Erdeley will no doubt have a field day with this.

  143. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    This article triggers my disgust reflex on so many levels.

    One thing that never gets discussed, though, is the willingness of blacks (and kebabs, apparently) to engage in multiple-male on single-female sex. (The willingness is said single-female seems to be a non-factor.) The thought of putting my penis into an orifice where my buddy just ejaculated makes me nauseous.

    Yes, I realize there are white guys who do this sort of thing as evidenced by porn, swingers, etc., and all bets are off during wartime. But per capita, it seems to be a much more common occurrence amongst NAMs. Is there an old Anglo-Saxon euphemism for "running a train" or "ficki ficki" that I'm not aware of?

    Is this yet another "ice people vs sun people" dichotomy, or what?

    I can't be objective because disgust. Why is this "a thing"?

    The the old days they used to call this “sloppy seconds”.

  144. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    "Any white guy who watched American Football is a cuck-roach.

    What is it a celebration of? Black guys whupping white guys and humping white girls."

    Not always. Since you don't watch football, I'll let you know the NFL's Whitest and only majority-White team, the Patriots, is in the Super Bowl again -- and their White men routinely whup black guys all day long on the gridiron.

    And the white bread Patriots will do it again in about 8 days to the Atlanta Falcons.

  145. @RonaldB
    Baylor is an expensive, exclusive school. Families sending their children there and actually paying the tuition have every right to expect the school to maintain a safe environment, even in the light of stupid decisions by the female students to fraternize with the football players. If there isn't a certain safety factor for stupidity by the students, then why bother to send them to an exclusive school in the first place?

    In truth, if the allegations in the lawsuit are shown to be true, and publicized, it will do more damage to the school than the actual damages. Most alumni will withhold any support for the school, and sensible parents will avoid sending their children. The few idiots who value the victory of football above all else will compete for the Darwin award when they send their offspring to a rapist culture.

    The final victory would be the withdrawal of all federal support for universities, making them actually compete for students by offering real value.

    In truth, if the allegations in the lawsuit are shown to be true, and publicized, it will do more damage to the school than the actual damages. Most alumni will withhold any support for the school,

    Most?

    I’d be extremely surprised if it were more than a tiny minority.

    Baylor is Baptist, and it’s in Texas. Texas is Baptist country, and Texans love football, and Baptists love football.

    The vast majority of them will put up with a few stories about Suzy Q willingly hooking up with Dontrell, who then invites 5 or 6 of his teammates to join in.

    Like someone else pointed out, there were supposedly 52 “rapes”, but only a few got reported to the police.

    Baptists may not have Jewish IQs, but they’re smart enough to figure out that a rape that isn’t reported to the cops is almost always a consensual hookup the girl later came to regret, for whatever reason.

    And the coach’s son may have been a bit too forward about it, but only the very naive don’t understand that this is going on all over the country at schools that are competitive in football and basketball.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    Baptists may not have Jewish IQs, but they’re smart enough to figure out that a rape that isn’t reported to the cops is almost always a consensual hookup the girl later came to regret, for whatever reason.
     
    You couldn't be more wrong. Often a rape that isn't reported to police is one that the victim is entirely unaware of or one that she inferred happened but can't really prove because she was passed out at the time. And it's a certainty that the Baptists at Baylor know this.
  146. @JohnnyWalker123
    No. This is a case of athletes overestimating their appeal to women and behaving aggressively around any female in their vicinity.

    Trust me. Most of these athletes aren't that successful with women, but they think they should. A lot of universities look the other way when these guys act out.

    These girls go to parties with athletes and get drunk with them. They follow them to their dorms. What do they expect?

  147. @whorefinder
    I have no idea why your friend knows who the black male pornstars are, and perhaps you should be asking yourself that question.

    That said, male porn actors make far less than female talent per capita. Especially nowadays with Viagra, you can always find a guy willing and able to have sex with a girl on camera.

    I have no idea why your friend knows who the black male pornstars are, and perhaps you should be asking yourself that question.

    Indeed.

  148. Anonymous [AKA "trailingsouth"] says:

    I’m in Texas.

    Baylor is a conservative,Baptist school.

    There’s a fairly decent chance these were very sheltered, virginal girls who were not wise to the ways of men.

    It’s not uncommon for a Baptist girl to not date in high school. Her parents want to deliver a chaste, sheltered, virginal bride to her bridegroom. Stunningly beautiful, fashionable, sweet, nice girls, not trolly freaks. Sheltered, cosseted,loved.

    These girls get sent off to Baptist-college to find a nice young man. They get invited to a few parties,they don’t know how to handle drinking because this is likely her first drink- and she’s sheltered-why would she imagine depravity?

    They aren’t jocks, either. I saw exactly one of those girls,this year, a kinesiology major,marrying her prince, a chem E guy. Virgin on her wedding night.

    she wants to be a teacher, then a mom.

    Briles deserves hell for killing these girls souls.

    • Replies: @RonaldB
    Well, I'm in Texas also, although I'm a somewhat dense-minded transplant.

    It seems to me the Baptist school ought to make in-loco parentis a feature of their school, or not mislead parents, Baptist or otherwise, that the school is a safe environment.

    Of course, I favor letting young people, men and women, know how to assert themselves against a persistent, sociopathic personality like that you'll find in black athletes, and some white as well. The model for refined young women used to be to shelter them and chaperone them until they married a strong male, who would take over the job. I think today's girls are a lot smarter and more sophisticated than that. They ought to be exposed to the existence of sexual predators, and learn to say "no" to a persistent, guilt-tripping predator, like a black using an accusation of racism as a shoehorn.

    Not every girl will choose that route, but in that case, she can transfer schools, suck it up, or forego the support of her "daddy" and incur her own educational debt.
    , @I laugh at your shit
    "There’s a fairly decent chance these were very sheltered, virginal girls who were not wise to the ways of men."

    lmao
  149. @RonaldB
    I have a couple of observations on your comment.

    Medicine, as elsewhere, involves trade-offs.

    I have had a heart valve replacement. The skill of the surgeons, physicians, and staff involved, not to mention the sophisticated equipment and devices involved, simply can't be inexpensive. This is not something you can pay for without insurance, or without pretty much bankrupting your savings. I would, on the other hand, be perfectly satisfied with catastrophe insurance, with a $10,000 or so deductible.

    I do think there is likely collusion between the medical industry and the insurance industry to stifle any real competition in medical care. For instance, the use of nurse-practitioners or physicians assistants, who are perfectly capable of providing basic care and prescriptions. What we have now is a very expensive system which is totally risk-adverse. You pay for the reduction of risk. It's an application of the 80-20 rule: you pay 80% of the expense for the last 20% of the risk. But, the extreme cases get the bulk of publicity. I don't know if it's simply the nature of the news, or a calculated campaign to promote government-mandated insurance.

    You are right about ” The skill of the surgeons, physicians, and staff involved, not to mention the sophisticated equipment and devices” . I’m not so sure about the collusion between the health care industry and the insurance industry . Every hospital in the country has a dept. dedicated to meeting the paperwork demands of the insurers who take every opportunity to deny payment to the point of denying payment for a misplaced signature . In my opinion they are adversaries . But beyond that there is another problem . The allocation of resources . Now I worked all my life and paid in and believe it or not produced something . Four years ago I had an MI and worked two more years . Now I am retired and contribute nothing , does it make any sense for the tax payers , that is you and the million others to pay to extend my life ? I don’t want to die in agony of course but it would be absurd to spend a shit load of your money so I can lay in my own shit in a hell I don’t want to think about . The system is not just broken , it feeds off the suffering of others .

    • Replies: @RonaldB
    Don't sell yourself short. You worked for many years, contributed to social security, so there's no reason to not plan an enjoyable retirement.

    I have been paying hundreds of dollars a month for long-term health care insurance for over 20 years. I have every expectation that if I become disabled, I will be supported in the best style money can buy...and it won't be off the backs of the taxpayers.

    In the meantime, my heart operation was a rousing success, I work out with weights and treadmills every day, exercise a huge dog each day by riding my bicycle with him, and take care of the business affairs of a relative disabled by a stroke. I own my own home, keep my daily expenses pretty much within the money given me by social security, and spend my actual savings on video games, 4k tv, new AV receiver and the fastest gamer computer I can justify buying to myself. Oh, and any expenses I incur taking care of my relative, I pay out of my pocket.

    The problem with putting everyone on the public dole, including retirees, is exactly that described by Ayn Rand using the Twentieth Century Motor Company as an exemplar:


    "“Do you know how it worked, that plan, and what it did to people? Try pouring water into a tank where there’s a pipe at the bottom draining it out faster than you pour it, and each bucket you bring breaks that pipe an inch wider, and the harder you work the more is demanded of you, and you stand slinging buckets forty hours a week, then forthy-eight, then fifty-six – for your neighbor’s supper – for his wife’s operation – for his child’s measles – for his mother’s wheel chair – for his uncle’s shirt – for his nephew’s schooling – for the baby next door – for the baby to be born – for anyone anywhere around you – it’s theirs to receive, from diapers to dentures – and yours to work, from sunup to sundown, month after month, year after year, with nothing to show for it but your sweat, with nothing in sight for you but their pleasure..."

     

    https://thesnarkwhohuntsback.wordpress.com/favorite-passages-from-atlas-shrugged/the-story-of-the-twentieth-century-motor-company-atlas-shrugged-part-ii/
  150. @Anonymous
    I know someone who pays $1,700 per month for her family of three (husband, wife, one child), and they have no real medical problems. They also have a very high annual deductible (maybe $5,000).

    The high premium and deductible are fairly standard in the Covered California world. People essentially pay to self-insure except for catastrophes, then do it all again the next year. No wonder insurance companies and pharma are reviled along with their politician facilitators.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    20-30% of what they pay is to self-insure. The rest is to pay for people who don't pay for themselves and/or the healthCEO's stock options.
  151. Reality keeps turning out to be just another Tom Wolfe novel.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    In Wolfe's I Am Charlotte Simmons, the title character - a white girl from the sticks - is raped by a white frat boy, fends off the advances of a white (Jewish) dweeb, and ends up dating the lone white starter on the basketball team. There's never any hint that she might go to bed with a black guy.

    It's a purple-pill book - Wolfe hints at some uncomfortable truths, but doesn't go far enough.

    I wonder if a major publishing company would publish a novel about, say, a white athlete who finds himself accused of a rape that was actually committed by one (or more) of his black teammates. (He and the girl were so drunk that neither of them remembers what really happened. They wake up in bed, naked, and it's obvious that she's been the victim of an assault.)

    The shocking twist is that a Jewish dweeb, who harbors a deep resentment of the white athlete, has a video recording of the assault - he secretly planted a webcam in the white athlete's room. (Shades of the Rutgers gay-suicide case.) The dweeb is considering his options: Does he expose the truth, does he try to blackmail the athletic department (and, by extension, the university as a whole), or does he sit back and do nothing while an innocent guy is thrown to the wolves?

    The other shocking twist is that the Jewish dweeb recently broke up with his Asian girlfriend. (Shades of The Social Network.) She knows that he's a voyeur who gets sick jollies out of spying on promiscuous jocks. (Shades of Sliver.) She knows that he knows the truth, and has her own reasons both for wanting to expose the truth and for fearing that doing so might jeopardize her own position.
  152. @Anon7
    The veterinary medicine racket is amazing. My family's "free" barn cat was bitten by another animal, and the total cost was $1,200. They're learning fast.

    I'd also point out that (based on my observations of my friend's daughter, currently in vet school) at least 80 percent of veterinary medicine students are female. They know a racket when they see one. Ten percent of the pressure of med school, and 100 percent of the money that pediatricians make. Smart.

    I have to say I don’t agree with “The veterinary medicine racket ” . When it was time for my little angel to go our vet. came to the house to put her down , and I was able to hold her in my arms as she faded away . To be honest I would rather be treated by him than than 90% of your JHH grads .
    There are 31 Vet. schools in the country as opposed to : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_medical_schools_in_the_United_States .

    And they are hard to get into as well . And they make less money . Racket it is not .

  153. @Anon7
    The veterinary medicine racket is amazing. My family's "free" barn cat was bitten by another animal, and the total cost was $1,200. They're learning fast.

    I'd also point out that (based on my observations of my friend's daughter, currently in vet school) at least 80 percent of veterinary medicine students are female. They know a racket when they see one. Ten percent of the pressure of med school, and 100 percent of the money that pediatricians make. Smart.

    They’re learning fast.

    Vet insurance is becoming a thing. That might be part of it.

  154. @vinteuil
    So, donut - you're not just a nut, after all.

    Interesting comment.

    Oh , don’t be deceived I am a nut .

  155. @Felix..
    Physician salaries account for less than 10% of healthcare costs. If you cut their salaries in half, you will completely destroy the profession while achieving an "incredible" 5% reduction in healthcare spending. At the annual rate of growth in healthcare spending of 3%, these "savings" will be eaten up in less than 2 years.

    On the other hand, you will be left with a decrepit system where the people doing the work are completely demoralized, and the only people entering medical schools are retards who don't realize that going $300k into debt and working for free for the first decade of their post-college life to get a $100k salary at the end for horrendous work hours in the most stressful of conditions is the worst deal in the history of bad deals.

    Physicians’ incomes aren’t limited to their salaries. They often have ownership stakes in surgical centers, labs, etc. And some of the fees they charge are outrageous (e.g., a $117k bill for an operation from an assistant surgeon: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/21/us/drive-by-doctoring-surprise-medical-bills.html?_r=0 ).

    Look, no need to reinvent the wheel. There are high-quality, workable healthcare/health insurance set-ups elsewhere in the world (France, Switzerland, Singapore). Why not borrow from what works?

    • Replies: @Felix..
    When I said salaries, I meant income. It's semantics. Numerous studies have shown that physician take home pay, including W2 wages and ownership of ancillary services accounts for less than 10% of total healthcare spending.

    But forget the studies. Just do the simple math. There are fewer than 1m actively practicing physicians in the USA. For the sake of giving your argument the benefit of the doubt, I'll say every single one of them works full time, and that the average take home income of a physician is $500,000. That is a ludicrous overestimation of how much money the average physician makes, but again, I'll give it to you so that you can't argue I'm making up numbers favorable to my side of the argument.

    A million doctors making an average of $500k a year gives you an annual figure of $500 billion. Total US healthcare spending is $4000 billion, so these filthy rich doctors are responsible for pocketing a paltry 12.5% of the total. If you enslave them and make them work for free, that leaves 87.5% of healthcare spending in place.

    Of course, only a tiny fraction of physicians makes anywhere near $500k a year and the average is far closer to $200k, their income representing about 6-8% of total healthcare spending. If you ruined the profession by reducing doctor salaries to that of teachers, you'd hardly make a dent in total spending.
  156. Anyone I encounter that actually watches sports seems pretty low-class and low-IQ. They are the problem. These retards shell out money to watch a bunch of non-Whites play with a ball. I can’t think of much more pathetic than that.

  157. @dc.sunsets
    Karl Denninger offers the most insightful explanation for why the medical services industry is a disaster.

    Look him up market-ticker.org

    I mentioned on Twitter that I’d be curious to see Mickey Kaus’s take on Denninger’s legal argument about price-fixing and collusion in the medical industry.

  158. @Anonymous
    Ken Starr, Baylor President, also resigned over the scandal for suppressing suits and buying off women.

    Follow his history. He is a consummate deep state groom. Foreign policy fraternity at college, clerking with DC judge, married to a jew (like Dimon), defended Jerry Epstein against paedophilia charges and moved to defend Blackwater mercenaries for murders in Iraq.

    The man is a piece of the swamp. The constellation.

    He is probably a psychopath.

    I've seen too many of these bios that remind me a bit of Allen Dulles. Read the Devil's Chessboard. Its the greatest historical work of the past half century. 700 pages with 70 pages of citations, references and actual interviews with relatives of the deep state operatives.

    I remember when he “failed” to find anything wrong with Clinton. Remember that scene in “The Life of Brian”? The sergeant said “found this spoon, sir!” LOL!

  159. @Lot
    "Adequate" is a matter of opinion, but the number of employed adults without health insurance is down more than 50% after rising every single year before the ACA was passed. Medical bankruptcies are also down significantly.

    Medical bankruptcies are also down significantly.

    I’m curious about medical bankruptcies. I heard from an acquaintance of an acquaintance, that his cardiac operation costing in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, came out to a payment of about $100 a month for decades. He’d have to be Methuselah to pay back in full what he owed. Who files for medical bankruptcy when easy payment plans exist? Is it people who just don’t feel like paying?

  160. @Chrisnonymous
    The effective supply of doctors has already been increased with PAs and NPs, which expand the number of patients per doctor that clinics can serve. It hasn't controlled costs. A lot of doctors are not making that much anyhow.

    In the end, the only effective way to control costs will be to deny and delay services. People just haven't accepted this yet.

    Increasing supply plus automation reduces costs in other fields. Should work in healthcare too. There’s already an app that claims to be 10x more accurate than physicians at primary care diagnosis.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    You're assuming that health care costs are driven by doctor fees, which I doubt.
  161. Anonymous [AKA "fitness dad"] says:

    Physical fitness is good. Everyone should walk, hike, swim, run, lift weights, garden, ride a bike…. do something physical… nearly every day.

    Sports, however, are pure evil. Everyone should stop watching them, stop buying tickets, stop caring. Per CS Lewis, “It may be in general dangerous to ignore an evil — but not if it is an evil that perishes by being ignored.” Sports are an evil that will perish if they are ignored. Colleges will neither admit nor retain steroid-enraged violent/sexual criminals, if the stadiums are EMPTY when they play.

    Oh and by the way, a large percentage of the athletes hate America and hate white people, so, f*** them.

    To hell with all spectator sports. Skip that game, turn off that TV, and instead hit the gym or take your family on a hike, and let the whole evil sports culture DIE its well deserved death.

    Okay, maybe make an exception for the Olympics. But not for anything else.

  162. @Anon7
    The veterinary medicine racket is amazing. My family's "free" barn cat was bitten by another animal, and the total cost was $1,200. They're learning fast.

    I'd also point out that (based on my observations of my friend's daughter, currently in vet school) at least 80 percent of veterinary medicine students are female. They know a racket when they see one. Ten percent of the pressure of med school, and 100 percent of the money that pediatricians make. Smart.

    Vet med students are heavily female alas. And they all want to work on the cutesy wutesy pets. In some rural areas the number of vets willing to do farm calls for cows and pigs is dwindling because the ladies don’t like doing that.

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    I wonder what the number of female students is at Iowa State's School of Veterinary Medicine? It seems to me that it must be devoted to livestock. Being a veterinarian to livestock is dirty and can even be dangerous--a cow can weigh half a ton or more and even if it doesn't mean to hurt you it can inflict serious damage if it falls on you or pushes you against a fence.
  163. @Darwin's Sh-tlist
    There's plenty of reason to think sexual aggression by male athletes would be high to begin with, but I wonder if it might not be amplified by the circumstances of college athletics.

    For four years, you're a very high-status male in a fishbowl environment. But if you don't make it to the pros (and most of them know they're not going to), that status pretty much evaporates after you leave campus. You may or may not have a degree; if you do, most prospective employers assume it's worthless. Unless you impress a rich alum who gives you a job at his car dealership, you're probably going back to your home town to teach P.E. and be an assistant coach at your old high school.

    So I can see where there may be an additional incentive to get as much as you can while you can.

    You seriously think JaMyC’hal and Quan’-Tavi0uz think that far ahead?

  164. All major programs use women to entice recruits, even BYU.

    “I went on a couple recruiting trips [in 2002]. That’s what you’re looking forward to,” says Thomas Stancil, a former BYU running back from Bakersfield, Calif. “You go out there. You’re getting introduced to college women. … It was partying, girls, completely the opposite of what was supposed to be going on. I was exposed to so many women on my recruiting trip to BYU, I couldn’t wait to get back. I was going to go to Fresno State but not after that recruiting trip. … As for the honor code, they did mention it. Yes, they did. No, they didn’t go into great detail. If they had, there’s no way in hell I would have gone there. Truly, I forgot all about the honor code. It’s not like it’s being put in your face every day. After my first meeting with the coaches, the honor code was never mentioned. … I was 100 percent deceived. One hundred percent.”

    “Girls were there, and sex was going on,” Allen says. “It was an orgy going on. School didn’t know about it and coaches didn’t know about it. Beer and hard liquor were there. It was a players’ house. I think it was the very house I was living in when I [got in trouble in 2004.] I didn’t know too much about Mormonism. I was told that everything was kept on the hush and that everything would be OK in respect to the honor code.”

    http://deadspin.com/5791461/the-truth-about-race-religion-and-the-honor-code-at-byu

  165. @Charles Pewitt
    Why doesn't Baylor just go ahead and make Russell D. Moore the head football coach? Break on through to the other side like that admiral's son said. Do it.

    It's really bad folks.

    >make Russell D. Moore the head football coach

    Wow. that’s real Southern Baptist inside baseball [as it were]. Impressive, Sir!

  166. End all sports programs at universities. They cause more bad than good.

    • Replies: @Truth

    End all sports programs at universities. They cause more bad than good.
     
    Are you sure you didn't mean to write, "and" instead of "at"?
  167. @Jim Don Bob
    To his credit, Ken Starr not only "accepted responsibility", he resigned his post as Chancellor and as a law professor. I have a friend who knows him well and she says he is a good guy. Perhaps too naive.

    Oh give me a break. Yeah, and the heads of Notre Dame and Alabama also have “no idea’ their players are paid, given hookers and coke, and are taking courses that grant them automatic passes for being jocks.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    I did not say Starr did not know; I said he did more than just mouth the words "I accept responsibility" and then keep his job.
  168. Apologies if this comment repeats others’ comments that I missed.

    I thought Tom Wolfe’s I Am Charlotte Simmons very accurately represented some aspects of the college jock + naive girl dynamic.

    Thanks, Robert Maynard Hutchins of U. Chicago for having the right idea in 1939. He is supposed to have said, “Football has the same relation to education as bullfighting has to agriculture.”

    http://www.si.com/vault/1954/10/18/546757/college-football-is-an-infernal-nuisance
    http://sedulia.blogs.com/sedulias_quotations/2007/07/football-has-th.html

    I’m the furthest thing from an expert, but I believe that no Texas college football team had anything like a good year in 2016. Texas, A&M, Tech, TCU, Baylor… all out of the top 25, right? I hope that means the coeds are safe(r).

  169. @vinteuil
    "You can join the University of Chicago in being a university."

    Studied there, as an under-graduate, 1976-8. Taught there, as a Schmidt Fellow, 1994-7.

    Yeah, it was a real university, with lotsa serious stuff going on, and not much sports-worship.

    It was also insanely gay & jewish.

    Straight gentile males were not much in evidence.

    Sports-worship is pretty much the religion of straight gentile males. Give them a jock to sniff, and many of them are yours for life.

    Sounds a lot like my experience with U of C’s New England cousins in the 1990s and 2000s. Very very gay, very very Jewish (and Northeast Asian), and little or nothing to do with the sports of the white gentile males.

    • Replies: @Truth

    Sounds a lot like my experience with U of C’s New England cousins in the 1990s and 2000s. Very very gay, very very Jewish (and Northeast Asian), and little or nothing to do with the sports of the white gentile males.
     
    Sounds like one hell of a party...
  170. @Ivy
    The high premium and deductible are fairly standard in the Covered California world. People essentially pay to self-insure except for catastrophes, then do it all again the next year. No wonder insurance companies and pharma are reviled along with their politician facilitators.

    20-30% of what they pay is to self-insure. The rest is to pay for people who don’t pay for themselves and/or the healthCEO’s stock options.

  171. @Long Turd
    The easiest way to reduce healthcare costs is to reduce healthcare. That's the solution or the problem depending on your goal.

    The easiest way to reduce healthcare costs is to reduce healthcare.

    How does one “reduce healthcare”?

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber

    How does one “reduce healthcare”?
     
    For starters, maybe not spending money to keep grandma alive another 3 months. She has lived long enough; let her go.
  172. @40 Acres and A Kardashian

    In truth, if the allegations in the lawsuit are shown to be true, and publicized, it will do more damage to the school than the actual damages. Most alumni will withhold any support for the school,
     

    Most?

    I'd be extremely surprised if it were more than a tiny minority.

    Baylor is Baptist, and it's in Texas. Texas is Baptist country, and Texans love football, and Baptists love football.

    The vast majority of them will put up with a few stories about Suzy Q willingly hooking up with Dontrell, who then invites 5 or 6 of his teammates to join in.

    Like someone else pointed out, there were supposedly 52 "rapes", but only a few got reported to the police.

    Baptists may not have Jewish IQs, but they're smart enough to figure out that a rape that isn't reported to the cops is almost always a consensual hookup the girl later came to regret, for whatever reason.

    And the coach's son may have been a bit too forward about it, but only the very naive don't understand that this is going on all over the country at schools that are competitive in football and basketball.

    Baptists may not have Jewish IQs, but they’re smart enough to figure out that a rape that isn’t reported to the cops is almost always a consensual hookup the girl later came to regret, for whatever reason.

    You couldn’t be more wrong. Often a rape that isn’t reported to police is one that the victim is entirely unaware of or one that she inferred happened but can’t really prove because she was passed out at the time. And it’s a certainty that the Baptists at Baylor know this.

    • Disagree: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @Opinionator
    I don't follow what you are getting at here Ben.
    , @ScarletNumber
    White knight to the rescue.
    , @40 Acres and A Kardashian

    Often a rape that isn’t reported to police is one that the victim is entirely unaware
     
    LOL

    Yeah, right.

    Even if that were true, then how did these same rapes come to the attention of the lawyer who came up with that figure, if the victims were entirely unaware they'd been raped?
  173. @anon
    Rape, my foot. They very much wanted to partake the hot sausages. Why else would they go to a place filled with football players and alcohol. They are just trying to dig some gold now.

    Exhibit #1: That lovely little clip; Illustrates the intensity of the forbidden fruit in all of two minutes.

    Rape, my foot. They very much wanted to partake the hot sausages. Why else would they go to a place filled with football players and alcohol. They are just trying to dig some gold now.

    Maybe a few. I’d bet most not.

    I think … “hey they are adult women” doesn’t quite work. One must realize that these girls while 18 are going to be very naïve about black football players. They’ve been bathed in media propaganda that lies continually about blacks and tells them that inter-racial dating and mating is just fine–better than fine, superior! And they have little idea that these black footballers won’t behave like their male classmates at their suburban high school. And parents don’t give their daughters any racial “real talk” … that would be racist and would be greeted with squealing hatred and disgust by their daughters anyway; parents just assume\hope their daughters wouldn’t go there. Then the university uses their “school spirit” volunteerism as racial revenge juicy fruit rape bait? In short this is a lambs in the lions den scenario.

    Yes, I have a very high level of disgust toward these women chasing–or simply curious about–the primitive. But it’s not like our culture–media, parents, university–is giving these girls any sort of realistic picture of reality which is required to avoid bad decisions. Given, that there’s a number of “stupid white girls” on every campus making these sort of dumb decisions, is hardly a surprise.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Truth

    I think … “hey they are adult women” doesn’t quite work. One must realize that these girls while 18 are going to be very naïve about black football players. They’ve been bathed in media propaganda that lies continually about blacks and tells them that inter-racial dating and mating is just fine–better than fine, superior! And they have little idea that these black footballers won’t behave like their male classmates at their suburban high school. And parents don’t give their daughters any racial “real talk” … that would be racist and would be greeted with squealing hatred and disgust by their daughters anyway; parents just assume\hope their daughters wouldn’t go there. Then the university uses their “school spirit” volunteerism as racial revenge juicy fruit rape bait? In short this is a lambs in the lions den scenario.

    Yes, I have a very high level of disgust toward these women chasing–or simply curious about–the primitive. But it’s not like our culture–media, parents, university–is giving these girls any sort of realistic picture of reality which is required to avoid bad decisions. Given, that there’s a number of “stupid white girls” on every campus making these sort of dumb decisions, is hardly a surprise.
     
    Oh, so in a sesquipedalian manner, you agree that they weren't raped?
  174. @Anon
    Any white guy who watched American Football is a cuck-roach.

    What is it a celebration of? Black guys whupping white guys and humping white girls.

    This is something a white guy wants to cheer to?

    US and EU are both turning into crap with Negromania.

    What is it a celebration of? Black guys whupping white guys and humping white girls.

    This is something a white guy wants to cheer to?

    -“Well apparently, Einstein!”

    Signed;

    Nielsen ratings, and Media Analytics

  175. @bomag
    We tsked tsked over England's Rotherham scandal, where officials there offered up the native girls to Pakistani rape gangs.

    Glad that doesn't happen here.

    Oh, wait...

    Well, there is the small, insignificant matter that you are comparing 20 year-olds to pre-teens, but, yeah, distinction without a difference…

  176. @AnotherDad

    Rape, my foot. They very much wanted to partake the hot sausages. Why else would they go to a place filled with football players and alcohol. They are just trying to dig some gold now.
     
    Maybe a few. I'd bet most not.

    I think ... "hey they are adult women" doesn't quite work. One must realize that these girls while 18 are going to be very naïve about black football players. They've been bathed in media propaganda that lies continually about blacks and tells them that inter-racial dating and mating is just fine--better than fine, superior! And they have little idea that these black footballers won't behave like their male classmates at their suburban high school. And parents don't give their daughters any racial "real talk" ... that would be racist and would be greeted with squealing hatred and disgust by their daughters anyway; parents just assume\hope their daughters wouldn't go there. Then the university uses their "school spirit" volunteerism as racial revenge juicy fruit rape bait? In short this is a lambs in the lions den scenario.

    Yes, I have a very high level of disgust toward these women chasing--or simply curious about--the primitive. But it's not like our culture--media, parents, university--is giving these girls any sort of realistic picture of reality which is required to avoid bad decisions. Given, that there's a number of "stupid white girls" on every campus making these sort of dumb decisions, is hardly a surprise.

    I think … “hey they are adult women” doesn’t quite work. One must realize that these girls while 18 are going to be very naïve about black football players. They’ve been bathed in media propaganda that lies continually about blacks and tells them that inter-racial dating and mating is just fine–better than fine, superior! And they have little idea that these black footballers won’t behave like their male classmates at their suburban high school. And parents don’t give their daughters any racial “real talk” … that would be racist and would be greeted with squealing hatred and disgust by their daughters anyway; parents just assume\hope their daughters wouldn’t go there. Then the university uses their “school spirit” volunteerism as racial revenge juicy fruit rape bait? In short this is a lambs in the lions den scenario.

    Yes, I have a very high level of disgust toward these women chasing–or simply curious about–the primitive. But it’s not like our culture–media, parents, university–is giving these girls any sort of realistic picture of reality which is required to avoid bad decisions. Given, that there’s a number of “stupid white girls” on every campus making these sort of dumb decisions, is hardly a surprise.

    Oh, so in a sesquipedalian manner, you agree that they weren’t raped?

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    Oh, so in a sesquipedalian manner, you agree that they weren’t raped?

     

    Nope. You pasted my entire comment, *except* my rather non-sesquipedalian take on Anon's "they wanted to partake of hot sausages" upfront:

    Maybe a few. I’d bet most not.
     
    As to rape: We already pretty much "know" there were some rapes, a couple of the thugs were criminally convicted, which generally doesn't happen in these college cases without decent evidence. As to the others ... I don't think any of us here know. Could be got drunk, bad judgment and phony "regret rape". Or could be got drunk (or even passed out) "brothers" took the opportunity to rape. Could consented to player A ... then handed off for rape by B,C,D. Could be all sorts of things.

    My sesquipedalian point, was simply there are lots of very naïve 18 year old white girls showing up on campus, some of whom will show up to be "boosters" and be involved in the athletic program, without any desire to be coal burners.
  177. @Tha Philosopher
    Art Briles should get the death penalty.

    A lot of the 52 women will have powerful dads. He may be lucky to be alive after a year actually even outside of prison.

    Ken Starr will then represent him and get him 12 months comm service after leaning on his judge buddy in return for millions in an offshore account or some bullshit deal where he points the finger on some of the players and gets a fine.

    Steve, since the justice system is morbidly corrupt at this point in America, what do you think about vigilantism?

    Art Briles should get the death penalty.

    LOL; the bar is gettin’ kinda’ low, ain’t it?

  178. @Intelligent Dasein
    If you watch college sports, or spend money to send your children (or yourself) to one of these degree mills, you ought to be ashamed of yourself.

    If you watch college sports, or spend money to send your children (or yourself) to one of these degree mills, you ought to be ashamed of yourself.

    Yeah, make em’ all journeyman plumbers!

  179. @Connecticut Famer
    I wonder how Genius T Coates would spin this one.

    You’ll be able to suspend your wonder in another week.

  180. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    This article triggers my disgust reflex on so many levels.

    One thing that never gets discussed, though, is the willingness of blacks (and kebabs, apparently) to engage in multiple-male on single-female sex. (The willingness is said single-female seems to be a non-factor.) The thought of putting my penis into an orifice where my buddy just ejaculated makes me nauseous.

    Yes, I realize there are white guys who do this sort of thing as evidenced by porn, swingers, etc., and all bets are off during wartime. But per capita, it seems to be a much more common occurrence amongst NAMs. Is there an old Anglo-Saxon euphemism for "running a train" or "ficki ficki" that I'm not aware of?

    Is this yet another "ice people vs sun people" dichotomy, or what?

    I can't be objective because disgust. Why is this "a thing"?

    Is there an old Anglo-Saxon euphemism for “running a train”… that I’m not aware of?

    Well, I’m no expert, but I would assume it’s; “running a train.”

    • Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown
    Lolz. Here's the thing, I never heard of that term or behavior before 2 Live Crew.
  181. @BB753
    Is this a case of a willing coed getting more action than she bargained for, or "regret" rape (my God, did I really do it with deShawn, Shantivius and the rest of the team last night? What will my fiance think?) I have zero sympathy for girls who socialize with athletes. Groupies is the most lenient word for them.

    I have zero sympathy for girls who socialize with athletes. Groupies is the most lenient word for them.

    Big Chief, I have sympathy for you; I hear the inside of a locker is a cold, lonely place…

    • Replies: @BB753
    The inside of your head must be an echo chamber where all you hear is: "black, blacketty, black, black!"

    If you took the pain to read between the lines, I sincerely don't believe your kinsmen committed "rape" rape, that is, proper rape. Though doubtless you must be proud of their ability to never take no for an answer, to fornicate with drunken or passed out women, and to stir each other's porridge, as the English put it. Your bruthars can never do wrong.

  182. @Ed
    A buddy of mine pointed out that he occasionally sees some of the black male pornstars out in LA. He says they don't appear to have money. Which is odd because I thought they made money on the side in the cuckolding/swinger scene.

    A buddy of mine pointed out that he occasionally sees some of the black male pornstars out in LA. He says they don’t appear to have money.

    The most consistently beautiful thing on this site is the “I have a friend” posts. One question though, why, exactly does your “friend” recognize black male porn stars? I’m black and I wouldn’t know one of these guys from a can of corn.

  183. @Anon7
    The veterinary medicine racket is amazing. My family's "free" barn cat was bitten by another animal, and the total cost was $1,200. They're learning fast.

    I'd also point out that (based on my observations of my friend's daughter, currently in vet school) at least 80 percent of veterinary medicine students are female. They know a racket when they see one. Ten percent of the pressure of med school, and 100 percent of the money that pediatricians make. Smart.

    Ten percent of the pressure of med school, and 100 percent of the money that pediatricians make.

    Uh, no; and no.

  184. @Charles Pewitt
    Football is just bread and circuses. The American Empire is just an an extension of the British Empire. There is a connection between college football and the overseas expansion of the American Empire.

    College football started in the East in a game between Rutgers and Princeton in 1869, Rutgers hosted the game and won. Construction of larger stadiums or coliseums for collegiate football roughly corresponds with the 1890s decision to scramble for overseas imperial possessions. The US census superintendent declared the frontier closed in 1890, so expansionism in the ships it was.

    Controlled violence is essential for the administration and continuation of empires. The "playing fields" are where the imperial young are taught how to inflict their will upon opponents using controlled violence. The Brits started it and we're still doing it. Only now, in the United States, many of the players in college football are the descendants of slaves that were brought from Africa.

    The Black football thugs are just one more small signal of imperial decay. The American Empire is imploding. Patriots should welcome the implosion of the American Empire.

    Patriots should welcome the implosion of the American Empire.

    Maybe, but people who do stuff like; go shopping, drive to work, and use fossil fuels to heat their homes, and running water, shouldn’t.

  185. @Mr. Anon

    Hopefully, as a result of the massive hiring freezes many of the frivolous degree programs will be eliminated.
     
    Or they could just get rid of those superfluous science and engineering departments, and focus on the University's core-competencies: Whiteness studies, Gender equity, LGBTQWERTY advocacy, and Sportsball.

    Apparently, judging by what you comment upon, that’s EXACTLY what they did at your school, 40 years ago, nymph.

  186. @Calogero
    End all sports programs at universities. They cause more bad than good.

    End all sports programs at universities. They cause more bad than good.

    Are you sure you didn’t mean to write, “and” instead of “at”?

  187. @benjaminl
    Sounds a lot like my experience with U of C's New England cousins in the 1990s and 2000s. Very very gay, very very Jewish (and Northeast Asian), and little or nothing to do with the sports of the white gentile males.

    Sounds a lot like my experience with U of C’s New England cousins in the 1990s and 2000s. Very very gay, very very Jewish (and Northeast Asian), and little or nothing to do with the sports of the white gentile males.

    Sounds like one hell of a party…

  188. @whorefinder
    Oh give me a break. Yeah, and the heads of Notre Dame and Alabama also have "no idea' their players are paid, given hookers and coke, and are taking courses that grant them automatic passes for being jocks.

    I did not say Starr did not know; I said he did more than just mouth the words “I accept responsibility” and then keep his job.

  189. @Anonymous
    I'm in Texas.

    Baylor is a conservative,Baptist school.

    There's a fairly decent chance these were very sheltered, virginal girls who were not wise to the ways of men.

    It's not uncommon for a Baptist girl to not date in high school. Her parents want to deliver a chaste, sheltered, virginal bride to her bridegroom. Stunningly beautiful, fashionable, sweet, nice girls, not trolly freaks. Sheltered, cosseted,loved.

    These girls get sent off to Baptist-college to find a nice young man. They get invited to a few parties,they don't know how to handle drinking because this is likely her first drink- and she's sheltered-why would she imagine depravity?

    They aren't jocks, either. I saw exactly one of those girls,this year, a kinesiology major,marrying her prince, a chem E guy. Virgin on her wedding night.

    she wants to be a teacher, then a mom.

    Briles deserves hell for killing these girls souls.

    Well, I’m in Texas also, although I’m a somewhat dense-minded transplant.

    It seems to me the Baptist school ought to make in-loco parentis a feature of their school, or not mislead parents, Baptist or otherwise, that the school is a safe environment.

    Of course, I favor letting young people, men and women, know how to assert themselves against a persistent, sociopathic personality like that you’ll find in black athletes, and some white as well. The model for refined young women used to be to shelter them and chaperone them until they married a strong male, who would take over the job. I think today’s girls are a lot smarter and more sophisticated than that. They ought to be exposed to the existence of sexual predators, and learn to say “no” to a persistent, guilt-tripping predator, like a black using an accusation of racism as a shoehorn.

    Not every girl will choose that route, but in that case, she can transfer schools, suck it up, or forego the support of her “daddy” and incur her own educational debt.

  190. @Anonymous
    Even better:

    One of the woman's teammates on the Baylor Bruin group to host prospective athletes instructed Doe to tell police she had "consensual sex with one white male" to protect the athletes, the lawsuit alleges.

    Smells off. Presumably Doe reports a rape to the police, investigators follow-up with victim interviews. Meanwhile, a third party instructs the alleged rape victim to report consensual sex–to protect the rapist athletes. Really? Where there’s smoke, there’s probably fire. Either there’s more to this story, or there’s elaborate embellishment going on.

  191. Baylor clearly failed to understand their target market. Parents send their kids to Baylor to keep them AWAY from this stuff.

    Despite Baylor being in Texas, the target demographic for Baylor doesn’t really give a shit about the quality of the football program. This is like, I don’t know, Harvard suddenly deciding they need to pull out ALL THE STOPS to assemble a football team that can make it to the BCS championship.

    I’m frankly surprised more heads haven’t rolled over this.

  192. @donut
    You are right about " The skill of the surgeons, physicians, and staff involved, not to mention the sophisticated equipment and devices" . I'm not so sure about the collusion between the health care industry and the insurance industry . Every hospital in the country has a dept. dedicated to meeting the paperwork demands of the insurers who take every opportunity to deny payment to the point of denying payment for a misplaced signature . In my opinion they are adversaries . But beyond that there is another problem . The allocation of resources . Now I worked all my life and paid in and believe it or not produced something . Four years ago I had an MI and worked two more years . Now I am retired and contribute nothing , does it make any sense for the tax payers , that is you and the million others to pay to extend my life ? I don't want to die in agony of course but it would be absurd to spend a shit load of your money so I can lay in my own shit in a hell I don't want to think about . The system is not just broken , it feeds off the suffering of others .

    Don’t sell yourself short. You worked for many years, contributed to social security, so there’s no reason to not plan an enjoyable retirement.

    I have been paying hundreds of dollars a month for long-term health care insurance for over 20 years. I have every expectation that if I become disabled, I will be supported in the best style money can buy…and it won’t be off the backs of the taxpayers.

    In the meantime, my heart operation was a rousing success, I work out with weights and treadmills every day, exercise a huge dog each day by riding my bicycle with him, and take care of the business affairs of a relative disabled by a stroke. I own my own home, keep my daily expenses pretty much within the money given me by social security, and spend my actual savings on video games, 4k tv, new AV receiver and the fastest gamer computer I can justify buying to myself. Oh, and any expenses I incur taking care of my relative, I pay out of my pocket.

    The problem with putting everyone on the public dole, including retirees, is exactly that described by Ayn Rand using the Twentieth Century Motor Company as an exemplar:

    ““Do you know how it worked, that plan, and what it did to people? Try pouring water into a tank where there’s a pipe at the bottom draining it out faster than you pour it, and each bucket you bring breaks that pipe an inch wider, and the harder you work the more is demanded of you, and you stand slinging buckets forty hours a week, then forthy-eight, then fifty-six – for your neighbor’s supper – for his wife’s operation – for his child’s measles – for his mother’s wheel chair – for his uncle’s shirt – for his nephew’s schooling – for the baby next door – for the baby to be born – for anyone anywhere around you – it’s theirs to receive, from diapers to dentures – and yours to work, from sunup to sundown, month after month, year after year, with nothing to show for it but your sweat, with nothing in sight for you but their pleasure…”

    https://thesnarkwhohuntsback.wordpress.com/favorite-passages-from-atlas-shrugged/the-story-of-the-twentieth-century-motor-company-atlas-shrugged-part-ii/

  193. @ben tillman

    Come to think of it, not only does the article not mention 52 indictments and convictions, it doesn’t even mention so much as 1 arrest. I know that our criminal justice system is not that efficient, but you would think that out of 52 “rapes” there would have been at least 1 guy arrested.
     
    Tevin Elliott, a former Baylor football player was sentenced to the maximum 20 years in prison and a $10,000 fine in January 2014 for sexually assaulting a former Baylor student in 2012.

    Sam Ukwuachu, who transferred from Boise State University to play football at Baylor (after being run out of Boise for violence against women), was convicted of sexually assaulting a Baylor soccer player in 2013.

    So that's two convictions for you, and of course there are allegations that the administration and the cops were working to protect the program. Throw in the interference of Title IX (why are universities supposed to be adjudicating rape charges?), and that explains a lot of the discrepancy.

    (why are universities supposed to be adjudicating rape charges?)

    The local DA could stop that shit with a few well aimed charges of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.

  194. @guest
    I have no doubt that's been a common feature of all human history. Which means at some level women must enjoy and actually welcome gang rape. Which makes me a little sick to admit, but that may just be my Current Year ignorance at work.

    Point is, we don't know where female invitation and enjoyment begins and ends, nor what is and is not rape, especially in these days of normalized debauchery. (Which doesn't require everyone to be debauched, just that those who are aren't freaks or monsters anymore.) Which is why in the Bad Old Days our civilization kept women on a leash. You may not like that approach, but bear in mind that the modern college campus offers absolutely ZERO solution. They couldn't even if they wanted to.

    We're in a No Man's Land between the old ways and whatever solution the emerging gynocracy will come up with. Probably something out of Aristophanes.

    It’s called sperm competition.
    An interesting aspect of sperm competition is that the man whose sperm are superior doesn’t spend much effort in mate-guarding. He knows his sperm will win. It’s the reproductively weaker males who are concerned with cuckoldry.
    From the abstract of the article cited:

    We found that men who performed fewer mate guarding behaviors produced higher quality ejaculates, having a greater concentration of sperm, a higher percentage of motile sperm and sperm that swam faster and less erratically.

    I suppose we could draw all sorts of loosely-tied-to-reality socio-political conclusions from this: Is the Muslim world full of reproductively weak males, perhaps because of all that cousin marriage, and that’s why they make their women wear Hefty bags in public? Is the hedonistic West full of reproductively strong males, perhaps because everybody is enthusiastically porking everybody else at every opportunity? Is the alt-right full of guys whose sperm can’t dance, that’s why they seem to be obsessed with cuck this and cuck that? Is the….

    • Replies: @MarkinPNW
    Hmmm, maybe the "cuck culture" is somewhat based on a subconscious fantasy that "my sperm can outswim all those other guys sperm"?
  195. @Lot
    I am pleased to see Trump and some of the smarter House and Senate Republicans moving away from Ryan/Koch plan to destroy Trump and the party by repealing the ACA.

    Eight days ago here I posted:


    Even if Trump improves the system, he’s never going to give America what it actually wants: free high quality healthcare for everyone with no tax increases and almost no restrictions. Obama and the Dems right now own the problems with health care, the best thing for Trump is to let them keep it by doing NOTHING.

    If Trump signs ANYTHING relating to Obamacare and healthcare, suddenly he and the GOP congress own the dysfunctional healthcare system the way Obama and the Dems do now

     

    Today Congressman Tom McClintock, the leading right-wing Republican in California, made the same point:

    “We’d better be sure that we’re prepared to live with the market we’ve created” with repeal, said Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.). “That’s going to be called Trumpcare. Republicans will own that lock, stock and barrel"
     
    I offered a way out for Trump:

    Best thing for Trump would be to make a list of demands that neither the GOP nor the Dems in congress will agree to and move on.
     
    McClintock is also on board with this, saying:

    “The fact is, we cannot repeal Obamacare through reconciliation,”
     
    Translated to English, this means any "Obamacare repeal" must get 60 votes in the Senate, which will never happen because 0 Democrats would vote for it. (Dem Joe Manchin in WV loves Sessions and supports much of the Trump agenda. He does not support Paul Ryan's plan to screw over the people of his state to make the Koch Brothers richer.)

    McClintock is capable of speaking in plain English, but can't directly say "Keep the ACA" due to the misinformation about it spread by the Koch network, so he just puts impossible conditions on repeal.

    When you’re in charge, you fix the problem. You don’t let it continue to fail into a disaster and blame it on the other guy. It’s called leadership.

    Obamacare is the complete opposite of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”

  196. @Seamus Padraig

    Translated to English, this means any “Obamacare repeal” must get 60 votes in the Senate, which will never happen because 0 Democrats would vote for it.
     
    Not necessarily. All the Senate Majority Leader has to do is get the Senate Rules Committee to scrap fillibuster, and then only 50 votes (plus the Vice President) are needed. Look up 'nuclear option'.

    McConnell just said he would not do this.

    It doesn’t matter, because a bunch of elderly GOP senators won’t end the filibuster either. McCain loves it. Dems only need three of them to defend the filibuster, but they have a lot more than that.

  197. @Almost Missouri
    I've seen no evidence that Trump voters like Obamacare.

    Even if it were politically smart to leave ACA in place despite its unpopularity, how long can the Repubs plausibly claim to be unable to do anything about it when they're in their seventh year of House majority, their third year of Senate majority, and now have the White House? (Hint: normal people don't care about cloture.)

    Eventually this thing is going to hang around Republican necks too. They may as well have it hung for something they did rather than something they didn't do.

    I’ve seen no evidence that Trump voters like Obamacare.

    Yeah, because Americans believe they are entitled to cheap affordable high quality health care as long as they are not lazy bums and have a job. Not an unreasonable position, every other advanced economy has a universal system.

    Replace Obamacare, it will be even worse, and hung around the necks of the GOP and Trump. Goodbye 2020.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    Obama passed Obamacare and not only wore it around his neck but was the literal namesake of the law, yet somehow he won a second term by a respectable margin...
  198. @Lot
    "Adequate" is a matter of opinion, but the number of employed adults without health insurance is down more than 50% after rising every single year before the ACA was passed. Medical bankruptcies are also down significantly.

    That’s some serious cherry-picking of anecdotes.

    Presumably a government mandate to purchase insurance produces a reduction in the uninsured. That’s known as a tautology.

    The allegation regarding medical bankruptcies, especially by Sen. Warren, was highly suspect, and debatable.

  199. @AnotherDad
    Disgusting, embarrassing.

    When is there going to be some college presidents or board of trustees who are willing to stand up for their mission. Sure it's difficult because of "racist!" and, of course, all the money. But, be a man or woman and do your job--stand up and pull the plug on this nonsense.

    You can join the University of Chicago in being a university.

    Or if intercollegiate athletics is a part of the culture you want to keep, then form a league with other like minded colleges and universities, that you won't recruit--no reduced admission standards, no promised scholarships. You'll simply have tryouts for teams from the actual student body. Could offer the ones that make it "scholarships" that are essentially the same as other campus jobs.

    Better, i'd say is a culture of intramural sports. Let the co-eds root on the atheletic guys playing each other. Or play co-ed intramural softball with them. Either way they are at least association with young men who are appropriate husbands for them. That's what a young woman's beauty is best used for--landing a guy who has high husband\father potential. Not as a t-and-a fishing lure to get some thug to bite on a recruitment pitch.

    The pathetic, cucked, go-along-get-along nature of supposed white "adults" is embarrasing. Take a stand for civilization.

    “You can join the University of Chicago in being a university.

    Or if intercollegiate athletics is a part of the culture you want to keep, then form a league with other like minded colleges and universities, that you won’t recruit–no reduced admission standards, no promised scholarships.”

    The U of C has NCAA Division 3 football and basketball and is in a conference with like minded schools including Carnegie-Mellon and Case Western.

  200. @Almost Missouri
    I've seen no evidence that Trump voters like Obamacare.

    Even if it were politically smart to leave ACA in place despite its unpopularity, how long can the Repubs plausibly claim to be unable to do anything about it when they're in their seventh year of House majority, their third year of Senate majority, and now have the White House? (Hint: normal people don't care about cloture.)

    Eventually this thing is going to hang around Republican necks too. They may as well have it hung for something they did rather than something they didn't do.

    One problem with Obamacare is that it is not insurance. It’s socialized pre-paid medical care expenses which cover regular and customary visits to providers. Insurance is for pooling known risks of unknown provenance, e.g. care for accidents, illness and surgery.

    Instead, Obamacare mandates (for me) include maternity care and pediatric dental care–neither of which I can utilize. It is social policy masquerading as insurance. Additionally, ‘free preventive care’ isn’t free unless providers volunteer their services (which isn’t happening). These and myriad other distortions pervert reimbursement rates, costs, et al.

    If you want to fix health care costs, then consumers need be empowered to control expenditures with choice and options–not mandate a one-size-fits-all approach from Washington.

  201. @donut
    "Why not increase the supply of physicians, by loaning or giving medical schools money to expand, and similarly encouraging hospitals to increase their number of clerkship's, internships, and residencies accordingly?"

    From own experience the profession is already swamped with Indians , Pakis , Africans and Asians . The Indian physician is a cliche . That's the way the industry is increasing the supply of MDs. As doctors they range from very good to dangerous just like our own home grown doctors do . The Indian/Paki and Arab doctors do seem to specialize in Medicare fraud more than the American docs but maybe they just get caught more often .
    I think one of the biggest obstacles to affordable health care is the insurance industry which really got rolling in the middle of the last century . Before that the patient paid . Now unless you are rich a week in the hospital will put you in the poor house and boy do they pad the bill . Insurance is a racket , they drive the prices up until you can't see a doctor without insurance and now we can't afford either the doctor or the insurance . What service exactly do they provide for all that money ?
    As of the present there isn't widespread insurance for animals but they are trying to weasel their way in there too . You have a pet that needs to see the vet. you can afford it , it might sting but you can pay out of pocket . In the 90's I had a dog that needed orthopedic Sx. on her knee . 650-700 bucks and she got spade at the same time , In NYC. A human would probably have to pay more than that for an office visit and a pre-op workup .
    But as I see it the whole healthcare industry is irrational and and beyond fixing , just another one of societies institutions heading for collapse . All my hopes are riding on a fatal heart attack just about the time my money runs out . 2-5 more years maybe . I just pray that I outlive my car .

    one of the biggest obstacles to affordable health care is the insurance industry, which really got rolling in the middle of the last century. […] Insurance is a racket, they drive the prices up.

    Advances in other industries drive down costs. Advances in medicine drive up costs: coronary artery bypasses, organ transplants, targeted genetic therapies, exotic drugs, chemotherapy, hip and knee replacements, CAT scans, MRIs. Those advances weren’t routinely available in the middle of the last century.

    • Replies: @donut
    Not disagreeing , just a little factoid ; the first CABG was done in 1960 , the first heart transplant in 1967 . I remember Tom Snyder doing a special on health care costs in the US in 78 or 79 . He was going on at one point about how there was one CAT machine in the entire country of Sweden and just the city of Denver had two . Now every hospital in the country has both CAT and MRI . From Wikpedia : "The first transplant in the modern sense – the implantation of organ tissue in order to replace an organ function – was a thyroid transplant in 1883." And : "By 1984 two-thirds of all heart transplant patients survived for five years or more." I have personally seen more than one doctor perform an unnecessary procedure on a patient just to be able to put a tick in the box . And in one case contrary to the pt's. expressed wishes. Maybe approaching 7 1/2 billion people we don't really need these heroic efforts to save lives.
  202. @AnotherDad
    Disgusting, embarrassing.

    When is there going to be some college presidents or board of trustees who are willing to stand up for their mission. Sure it's difficult because of "racist!" and, of course, all the money. But, be a man or woman and do your job--stand up and pull the plug on this nonsense.

    You can join the University of Chicago in being a university.

    Or if intercollegiate athletics is a part of the culture you want to keep, then form a league with other like minded colleges and universities, that you won't recruit--no reduced admission standards, no promised scholarships. You'll simply have tryouts for teams from the actual student body. Could offer the ones that make it "scholarships" that are essentially the same as other campus jobs.

    Better, i'd say is a culture of intramural sports. Let the co-eds root on the atheletic guys playing each other. Or play co-ed intramural softball with them. Either way they are at least association with young men who are appropriate husbands for them. That's what a young woman's beauty is best used for--landing a guy who has high husband\father potential. Not as a t-and-a fishing lure to get some thug to bite on a recruitment pitch.

    The pathetic, cucked, go-along-get-along nature of supposed white "adults" is embarrasing. Take a stand for civilization.

    Good points.

    Also, wasn’t it “racist” on the part of the recruiter quoted to assume that Black male athletes are interested specifically in white women?

    To say nothing of the revealed preference of so many black males for white females. (Yeah, I know, that would seem to be one of those things that we are not supposed to notice…)

    • Replies: @BB753
    Black men would rather mate with any other race than their own. Makes you wonder..
  203. @Dissident
    Good points.

    Also, wasn't it "racist" on the part of the recruiter quoted to assume that Black male athletes are interested specifically in white women?

    To say nothing of the revealed preference of so many black males for white females. (Yeah, I know, that would seem to be one of those things that we are not supposed to notice...)

    Black men would rather mate with any other race than their own. Makes you wonder..

  204. @Lot

    I’ve seen no evidence that Trump voters like Obamacare.
     
    Yeah, because Americans believe they are entitled to cheap affordable high quality health care as long as they are not lazy bums and have a job. Not an unreasonable position, every other advanced economy has a universal system.

    Replace Obamacare, it will be even worse, and hung around the necks of the GOP and Trump. Goodbye 2020.

    Obama passed Obamacare and not only wore it around his neck but was the literal namesake of the law, yet somehow he won a second term by a respectable margin…

    • Replies: @Lot
    Obama won a respectable margin against a Wall Street true-conservative who wanted to "Let Detroit go Bankrupt" ripped off the pensions of factory workers before shutting them down, defended the Iraq war and picked Paul Ryan as VP.
  205. @whorefinder
    Hard to tell what is true. It could be one of four things:

    1. Sluts get banged by football players, and now trying to profit from it in the current atmosphere of "any accusation by a woman of any rape is 110% all the proof needed."

    2. Local paid hookers, ahem, booster girls, slept with some recruits, word got out about it, the program shut down, and now the out-of-work street walkers (sorry, booster girls) are trying to save face and make some money back.

    3. Actual, grab-her-in-the-dark-in-a-park rape.

    4. As Steve has pointed out, the slut agrees to sleep with Jock A, only to have a train unwillingly run on her by Jock's B-Z.

    It's probably a combination of all four.

    BTW, there is a different tactic some college boosters are using to sex up their recruits. Instead of getting a local skank factory to give it up, they hire an 18 year old boy's fantasy---a real life porn star---and she sexes up the kid beyond his wildest dreams:

    https://www.tmz.com/2014/10/23/notre-dame-football-justin-brent-lisa-ann-date-knicks-game/

    Of course the problem with that is, when the information gets out into the media, it becomes painfully obvious that she was hired to do so. Especially when he's taking in Knick games in New York with the woman when he goes to school in Indiana and she does her "career" in LA.

    the current atmosphere of “any accusation by a woman of any rape is 110% all the proof needed.”

    Does that rule apply when the male accused is “of color”? (Or Muslim)

    Isn’t this a case of narrative collision?

  206. @Truth
    Is there an old Anglo-Saxon euphemism for “running a train”... that I’m not aware of?

    Well, I'm no expert, but I would assume it's; "running a train."

    Lolz. Here’s the thing, I never heard of that term or behavior before 2 Live Crew.

  207. @Truth

    I think … “hey they are adult women” doesn’t quite work. One must realize that these girls while 18 are going to be very naïve about black football players. They’ve been bathed in media propaganda that lies continually about blacks and tells them that inter-racial dating and mating is just fine–better than fine, superior! And they have little idea that these black footballers won’t behave like their male classmates at their suburban high school. And parents don’t give their daughters any racial “real talk” … that would be racist and would be greeted with squealing hatred and disgust by their daughters anyway; parents just assume\hope their daughters wouldn’t go there. Then the university uses their “school spirit” volunteerism as racial revenge juicy fruit rape bait? In short this is a lambs in the lions den scenario.

    Yes, I have a very high level of disgust toward these women chasing–or simply curious about–the primitive. But it’s not like our culture–media, parents, university–is giving these girls any sort of realistic picture of reality which is required to avoid bad decisions. Given, that there’s a number of “stupid white girls” on every campus making these sort of dumb decisions, is hardly a surprise.
     
    Oh, so in a sesquipedalian manner, you agree that they weren't raped?

    Oh, so in a sesquipedalian manner, you agree that they weren’t raped?

    Nope. You pasted my entire comment, *except* my rather non-sesquipedalian take on Anon’s “they wanted to partake of hot sausages” upfront:

    Maybe a few. I’d bet most not.

    As to rape: We already pretty much “know” there were some rapes, a couple of the thugs were criminally convicted, which generally doesn’t happen in these college cases without decent evidence. As to the others … I don’t think any of us here know. Could be got drunk, bad judgment and phony “regret rape”. Or could be got drunk (or even passed out) “brothers” took the opportunity to rape. Could consented to player A … then handed off for rape by B,C,D. Could be all sorts of things.

    My sesquipedalian point, was simply there are lots of very naïve 18 year old white girls showing up on campus, some of whom will show up to be “boosters” and be involved in the athletic program, without any desire to be coal burners.

    • Replies: @Truth

    some of whom will show up to be “boosters” and be involved in the athletic program, without any desire to be coal burners.
     
    Well I'm glad that "some" white women are still chaste.
  208. @AnotherDad

    Oh, so in a sesquipedalian manner, you agree that they weren’t raped?

     

    Nope. You pasted my entire comment, *except* my rather non-sesquipedalian take on Anon's "they wanted to partake of hot sausages" upfront:

    Maybe a few. I’d bet most not.
     
    As to rape: We already pretty much "know" there were some rapes, a couple of the thugs were criminally convicted, which generally doesn't happen in these college cases without decent evidence. As to the others ... I don't think any of us here know. Could be got drunk, bad judgment and phony "regret rape". Or could be got drunk (or even passed out) "brothers" took the opportunity to rape. Could consented to player A ... then handed off for rape by B,C,D. Could be all sorts of things.

    My sesquipedalian point, was simply there are lots of very naïve 18 year old white girls showing up on campus, some of whom will show up to be "boosters" and be involved in the athletic program, without any desire to be coal burners.

    some of whom will show up to be “boosters” and be involved in the athletic program, without any desire to be coal burners.

    Well I’m glad that “some” white women are still chaste.

  209. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    This article triggers my disgust reflex on so many levels.

    One thing that never gets discussed, though, is the willingness of blacks (and kebabs, apparently) to engage in multiple-male on single-female sex. (The willingness is said single-female seems to be a non-factor.) The thought of putting my penis into an orifice where my buddy just ejaculated makes me nauseous.

    Yes, I realize there are white guys who do this sort of thing as evidenced by porn, swingers, etc., and all bets are off during wartime. But per capita, it seems to be a much more common occurrence amongst NAMs. Is there an old Anglo-Saxon euphemism for "running a train" or "ficki ficki" that I'm not aware of?

    Is this yet another "ice people vs sun people" dichotomy, or what?

    I can't be objective because disgust. Why is this "a thing"?

    Was it really necessary to be quite that graphic and particular in describing what disgusts you?

    • Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown
    You should have seen the first draft.
  210. @ben tillman

    Baptists may not have Jewish IQs, but they’re smart enough to figure out that a rape that isn’t reported to the cops is almost always a consensual hookup the girl later came to regret, for whatever reason.
     
    You couldn't be more wrong. Often a rape that isn't reported to police is one that the victim is entirely unaware of or one that she inferred happened but can't really prove because she was passed out at the time. And it's a certainty that the Baptists at Baylor know this.

    I don’t follow what you are getting at here Ben.

  211. @Massimo Heitor

    “Do You Like White Women? Because We Have a Lot of Them at Baylor and They Love Football Players”
     
    Recruiting men with the promise of women is standard recruitment tactic for any college, church, or exercise club. They usually assign attractive women as guides and hosts and put potential male recruits in social environments with other women. Just like most sexual attraction, non-verbal non-explicit communication is the norm.

    I don't see this scenario out of the ordinary at all. Why do you think online education has limited success?

    “Why do you think online education has limited success?”

    Because the most effective form of communication, either between professor and student or student to student, is face to face. And, your broader point, people are social creatures.

    • Replies: @MarkinPNW
    Also, it is easy to get distracted without a certain amount of structure and expectations. Like the saying, "How would you describe the 21st century to someone from the 1950's? We all have a Dick Tracy gadget that can access all the information and learning of the world, and we just use them to look at cute pictures of cats and to get into heated arguments with complete strangers!"
  212. @Connecticut Famer
    I wonder how Genius T Coates would spin this one.

    He’d be angry that anyone even noticed; proof they are racist and all that.

  213. Healthcare costs by country.

    Life expectancy.

    By the way, life expectancy for non-Hispanic whites is the same as the national average. NAMs don’t drag down the average.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    Not disagreeing, but there are some important qualifiers:

    1) Differences countries measure infant mortality differently. The US counts anyone born alive as a recordable death for life expectancy purposes. Most other countries require the birth to reach some viability threshold (e.g., not severe preemies) before it can be counted for life expectancy purposes. The numbers are not huge, but because the US records more deaths at approximately age zero, it has an outsize effect on the life expectancy statistics.

    2) You're correct that "life expectancy for non-Hispanic whites is [approximately] the same as the national average", but not that "NAMs don’t drag down the average." Blacks do have lower life expectancy, but this is offset by Asians' (and to a lesser extent Hispanics') higher life expectancy.

    3) The rightward drift of the US curve in James Rose's graph roughly corresponds with increased federal mucking around with healthcare (managed care, HMOs, expansion of Medicare/Medicaid), so it might not serve as the best argument for additional federal intervention in healthcare.
  214. @Anonymous
    I'm in Texas.

    Baylor is a conservative,Baptist school.

    There's a fairly decent chance these were very sheltered, virginal girls who were not wise to the ways of men.

    It's not uncommon for a Baptist girl to not date in high school. Her parents want to deliver a chaste, sheltered, virginal bride to her bridegroom. Stunningly beautiful, fashionable, sweet, nice girls, not trolly freaks. Sheltered, cosseted,loved.

    These girls get sent off to Baptist-college to find a nice young man. They get invited to a few parties,they don't know how to handle drinking because this is likely her first drink- and she's sheltered-why would she imagine depravity?

    They aren't jocks, either. I saw exactly one of those girls,this year, a kinesiology major,marrying her prince, a chem E guy. Virgin on her wedding night.

    she wants to be a teacher, then a mom.

    Briles deserves hell for killing these girls souls.

    “There’s a fairly decent chance these were very sheltered, virginal girls who were not wise to the ways of men.”

    lmao

  215. @Whoever
    It's called sperm competition.
    An interesting aspect of sperm competition is that the man whose sperm are superior doesn't spend much effort in mate-guarding. He knows his sperm will win. It's the reproductively weaker males who are concerned with cuckoldry.
    From the abstract of the article cited:

    We found that men who performed fewer mate guarding behaviors produced higher quality ejaculates, having a greater concentration of sperm, a higher percentage of motile sperm and sperm that swam faster and less erratically.

    I suppose we could draw all sorts of loosely-tied-to-reality socio-political conclusions from this: Is the Muslim world full of reproductively weak males, perhaps because of all that cousin marriage, and that's why they make their women wear Hefty bags in public? Is the hedonistic West full of reproductively strong males, perhaps because everybody is enthusiastically porking everybody else at every opportunity? Is the alt-right full of guys whose sperm can't dance, that's why they seem to be obsessed with cuck this and cuck that? Is the....

    Hmmm, maybe the “cuck culture” is somewhat based on a subconscious fantasy that “my sperm can outswim all those other guys sperm”?

  216. @Curle
    "Why do you think online education has limited success?"

    Because the most effective form of communication, either between professor and student or student to student, is face to face. And, your broader point, people are social creatures.

    Also, it is easy to get distracted without a certain amount of structure and expectations. Like the saying, “How would you describe the 21st century to someone from the 1950’s? We all have a Dick Tracy gadget that can access all the information and learning of the world, and we just use them to look at cute pictures of cats and to get into heated arguments with complete strangers!”

  217. Most of the “prison rape” stories are really just two men with a dearth of women around who get caught and then would rather lie about being raped than admit they consented to sex with another man.

    Are you actually claiming that the majority of heterosexual men in prison who are anally penetrated by other men (or even who perform fellatio upon other men), play such roles willingly?

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    To be sexually penetrated is completely unnatural for a male, period. Even homosexually-oriented males require extensive conditioning and endurance to overcome what is an instinctive and (quite literally) reflexive revulsion to the invasive desecration of being anally penetrated.

    [MORE]

    (And even then, more than a few homosexual males find the experience to fall decidedly short of the ultimate bliss that enthusiasts of and propagandists for said act tout it as. The buggery lobby would have you believe that for a homosexual male, being anally penetrated is as natural, desirable and pleasurable as being vaginally penetrated is for a female. The reality, however, is quite different– hideously, gruesomely and brutally different*. *Highly graphic content.)

    As for your point about disproportionately high HIV rates among the black population, while it would indeed seem quite obvious that anal penetration accounts for a great deal, if not most of this*, I believe that most of the buggering occurs in prison and is not consensual. Black males in their most virile years account for a vastly disproportionately high portion of the prison population. That much is simple fact that no one disputes. Many of the males infected while in prison then pass the virus on to those outside of prison, especially women, many of whom, in turn, during pregnancy infect the children they bear.

    *This is, of course, conveniently ignored by pro-buggery propagandists when they point-to such disproportionately high HIV rates among blacks, in order to deflect from the overwhelming, completely disproportionate, high rate of HIV (as well as many other serious diseases) among promiscuously buggering males.

  218. @Dave Pinsen
    Physicians' incomes aren't limited to their salaries. They often have ownership stakes in surgical centers, labs, etc. And some of the fees they charge are outrageous (e.g., a $117k bill for an operation from an assistant surgeon: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/21/us/drive-by-doctoring-surprise-medical-bills.html?_r=0 ).

    Look, no need to reinvent the wheel. There are high-quality, workable healthcare/health insurance set-ups elsewhere in the world (France, Switzerland, Singapore). Why not borrow from what works?

    When I said salaries, I meant income. It’s semantics. Numerous studies have shown that physician take home pay, including W2 wages and ownership of ancillary services accounts for less than 10% of total healthcare spending.

    But forget the studies. Just do the simple math. There are fewer than 1m actively practicing physicians in the USA. For the sake of giving your argument the benefit of the doubt, I’ll say every single one of them works full time, and that the average take home income of a physician is $500,000. That is a ludicrous overestimation of how much money the average physician makes, but again, I’ll give it to you so that you can’t argue I’m making up numbers favorable to my side of the argument.

    A million doctors making an average of $500k a year gives you an annual figure of $500 billion. Total US healthcare spending is $4000 billion, so these filthy rich doctors are responsible for pocketing a paltry 12.5% of the total. If you enslave them and make them work for free, that leaves 87.5% of healthcare spending in place.

    Of course, only a tiny fraction of physicians makes anywhere near $500k a year and the average is far closer to $200k, their income representing about 6-8% of total healthcare spending. If you ruined the profession by reducing doctor salaries to that of teachers, you’d hardly make a dent in total spending.

  219. @whorefinder
    I have no idea why your friend knows who the black male pornstars are, and perhaps you should be asking yourself that question.

    That said, male porn actors make far less than female talent per capita. Especially nowadays with Viagra, you can always find a guy willing and able to have sex with a girl on camera.

    Especially nowadays with Viagra, you can always find a guy willing and able to have sex with a girl on camera.

    Healthy males in the porn actor demographic needing Viagra? Performance anxiety, perhaps?

    • Replies: @whorefinder

    Performance anxiety, perhaps?
     
    Ron Jeremy has said that one of the major reasons he was able to be continuously employed for years despite his looks was his ability, pre-Viagra, to always be ready to "perform" no matter where or when, no matter how many people were around or how hot or cold the set was.
    , @guest
    Performance anxiety maybe, but male parts just weren't designed to work at the beck and call of film directors. Those are extremely unusual circumstances.
  220. @yaqub the mad scientist
    Ta Nishi Coates pretty much replaced guys like Nathan McCall as black intellectuals because he was more ready for prime time- exhibiting none of the aggressive pathologies. I was stunned how McCall was upheld as something great after reading his sickening memoir where he repeatedly discusses running a train on girls with his friends, including a couple of instances where the girl was clearly kidnapped, and he showed absolutely no remorse at all. It was one of those experiences where I realized there was something fucked in the head about the Left that went far beyond politics.

    Yeah, it's a thing in a lot of black communities, and it's common.

    While not at the level of what you cite for Nathan McCall, I do recall reading quoted passages from Coates’ celebrated Between the World and Me that clearly came across to me (and the reviewer) as exhibitive of “aggressive pathologies”.

  221. @Wilkey
    Most of these alleged rapes are the real deal, and they're all thanks to less than superstar athletes with 85 IQs and an entitlement mentality not getting what they think they deserve.

    A lot of students who are near the top of their classes in high school go off to college only to discover they aren't all that special. There's probably a similar dynamic at work with a lot of black athletes. They're the campus stud at their (mostly black) high schools, where the girls are genreally looser anyway and happy to give them what they want. They arrive at college to find much prettier, smarter, and more charming white girls who also tend to be at least a little more chaste. It doesn't go well. The white girls will hang out with them because they're football players and they both like to party. The football players hang out with girls who won't willingly sleep with them because they're a lot prettier than the girls who will.

    “A lot of students who are near the top of their classes in high school go off to college only to discover they aren’t all that special.”

    And now, with the rise of the non-college colleges (e.g., open admission online universities) I’ve seen the phenomenon among high school academic losers who nevertheless get money from the feds for college (because college fixes dumb, right?), often as a bene for military service, and these folks graduate from a school that actually targets the comparative low IQ (for college) but they now imagine themselves members of the cognitive elite. That they learned nothing in school that makes them more desirable to an employer only dawns on them when, after graduating, employer after employer reject their applications and they are back where they started. Only thousands of dollars in the hole (or the government is) but with an attitude that they are college material and have been screwed by some unseen force. End result is they start seeking out motivational speaking gigs or some other similar nonsense (diversity training, etc.) to eek out a living as newly minted ‘college grads’.

  222. @Old fogey
    I blame the feminists for this sad result. They have convinced young women that they basically are as horny as men and that they should - like men have traditionally done - sleep around. The men therefore treat them more like sluts than proper young women - because that is what they have made of themselves - and the women walk around in a quandary wondering why they are so unhappy.

    Yes, but some percentage of them that otherwise would have completely avoided lesbianism will try it, if only as an experiment and if only for a short period of time, thereby achieving the goal of feminism, to increase the supply of sexual partners for lesbians. Feminism is just a means to use politics as a cover for sexual market competition. Knew a gal when I was younger who attended a NOW convention once and described it as nothing more than an excuse for lesbians to get together and recruit new talent.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    A sizeable minority of young lesbians are girls (young women) who would in the past have been virginal, but modern "culture" forbids virginity, or at least strongly shames it, so these girls become lesbian as the next best thing. This works out well for exploitive bull-dikey type of lesbians, who therefore maintain and enforce modern "culture".

    For the lesbians-of-circumstance it works out a little differently. They typically go on antidepressants, become frigid ("lesbian bed death"), and/or eventually go straight in either a healthy or unhealthy way, depending how much damage they have sustained.

    Seen it more than once. Kind of sad, really. Not saying virginity should be mandatory, but it should at least be respected.
  223. @IAmCorn
    Vet med students are heavily female alas. And they all want to work on the cutesy wutesy pets. In some rural areas the number of vets willing to do farm calls for cows and pigs is dwindling because the ladies don't like doing that.

    I wonder what the number of female students is at Iowa State’s School of Veterinary Medicine? It seems to me that it must be devoted to livestock. Being a veterinarian to livestock is dirty and can even be dangerous–a cow can weigh half a ton or more and even if it doesn’t mean to hurt you it can inflict serious damage if it falls on you or pushes you against a fence.

    • Replies: @res

    I wonder what the number of female students is at Iowa State’s School of Veterinary Medicine?

     

    It's amazing how much data is easily available out there. A simple search turned up:
    https://vetmed.iastate.edu/future-dvm-students/apply-to-the-college/other-information/class-profiles
    2016 entering class (graduating 2020) is 77.4% women. They have links to PDFs for other years. I also checked 2012 which was 75.8% women.
  224. @Pericles

    represented four Baylor survivors
     
    "Survivors"? Is that what we once used to call "graduates"?

    It’s what we used to call “victims”, before claiming to be a “victim” and “oppressed” became desirable.

  225. @res
    Racist white women trying to deny the black man his due?
    Inadequate attention to black bodies?

    Variation on BLM: BPM…

  226. @JohnnyWalker123
    Healthcare costs by country.

    https://twitter.com/Lovejoy999/status/817806553826885632

    Life expectancy.

    https://twitter.com/jwwr/status/816051394922676224

    By the way, life expectancy for non-Hispanic whites is the same as the national average. NAMs don't drag down the average.

    Not disagreeing, but there are some important qualifiers:

    1) Differences countries measure infant mortality differently. The US counts anyone born alive as a recordable death for life expectancy purposes. Most other countries require the birth to reach some viability threshold (e.g., not severe preemies) before it can be counted for life expectancy purposes. The numbers are not huge, but because the US records more deaths at approximately age zero, it has an outsize effect on the life expectancy statistics.

    2) You’re correct that “life expectancy for non-Hispanic whites is [approximately] the same as the national average”, but not that “NAMs don’t drag down the average.” Blacks do have lower life expectancy, but this is offset by Asians’ (and to a lesser extent Hispanics’) higher life expectancy.

    3) The rightward drift of the US curve in James Rose’s graph roughly corresponds with increased federal mucking around with healthcare (managed care, HMOs, expansion of Medicare/Medicaid), so it might not serve as the best argument for additional federal intervention in healthcare.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    The basic problem is that we don't have stringent controls on costs and reimbursements. This is because the various medical lobbies (hospitals, physicians, pharmaceuticals, etc.) are well-organized enough that they can easily buy off most of the political class.

    30% of U.S. healthcare spending is on unneeded tests, fraud, and excessive administrative costs. As long as the medical lobbies continue to own our politicians, nothing will be done to substantially reduce that. Federal intervention has exacerbated the problem because the government reimburses healthcare providers too generously.

    If people paid their own medical costs out-of-pocket, that'd bring down medical costs. It'd also hurt people with serious health problems and make it difficult for them to access healthcare. A more sensible system is insurance. The healthy subsidize the ill. Then (one day) when they become ill, the healthy subsidize them. That enables people to get the healthcare they need without incurring catastrophic medical costs.

    Conservatives have been railing against "big government" for decades, but they had no problem spending $5 trillion in the completely unnecessary and bizarre Iraq War. They don't mind literally flushing money down the toilet overseas, but get agitated about expanding Medicaid in the U.S.
  227. @Curle
    Yes, but some percentage of them that otherwise would have completely avoided lesbianism will try it, if only as an experiment and if only for a short period of time, thereby achieving the goal of feminism, to increase the supply of sexual partners for lesbians. Feminism is just a means to use politics as a cover for sexual market competition. Knew a gal when I was younger who attended a NOW convention once and described it as nothing more than an excuse for lesbians to get together and recruit new talent.

    A sizeable minority of young lesbians are girls (young women) who would in the past have been virginal, but modern “culture” forbids virginity, or at least strongly shames it, so these girls become lesbian as the next best thing. This works out well for exploitive bull-dikey type of lesbians, who therefore maintain and enforce modern “culture”.

    For the lesbians-of-circumstance it works out a little differently. They typically go on antidepressants, become frigid (“lesbian bed death”), and/or eventually go straight in either a healthy or unhealthy way, depending how much damage they have sustained.

    Seen it more than once. Kind of sad, really. Not saying virginity should be mandatory, but it should at least be respected.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    LUGs. Lesbians until graduation.
    , @Dissident
    Similar thoughts were expressed back in May by iSteve commenter "TheJester":
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/is-obamas-world-war-t-losing-even-the-nyt/#comment-1422541

    I will quote a sentence from the concluding paragraph but I urge those interested to follow the link and read the entire comment, which is only three paragraphs.

    The danger in all of this is that the SJWs, by precasting scripted rationalizations for girls, women, and minorities of both sexes regarding life and sexuality, are retarding their ability to grow up and deal with reality.
     
  228. @Anonymous
    I know someone who pays $1,700 per month for her family of three (husband, wife, one child), and they have no real medical problems. They also have a very high annual deductible (maybe $5,000).

    In stark HBD terms, Obamacare is massive tax on the white and Asian middle class to subsidize the brown and black underclass.

    And political support shakes out more or less along those lines.

  229. @Dave Pinsen
    Increasing supply plus automation reduces costs in other fields. Should work in healthcare too. There's already an app that claims to be 10x more accurate than physicians at primary care diagnosis.

    You’re assuming that health care costs are driven by doctor fees, which I doubt.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Labor costs, including physicians, nurses, profusionists, respiratory therapists, etc., etc., are a big component of healthcare costs.
  230. @Jack D
    If they are the "real deal", why didn't the women go to the police immediately so that their rapists could be arrested and indicted and tried and convicted and sentenced to prison? Isn't that what is supposed to happen with "real deal" rapists? 52 "rapes" and zero arrests let alone convictions - those police must really suck. Or else they are NOT the "real deal" but just "Elizabeth Doe" and her lawyers trying to cash in.

    Rape was originally the theft of a woman's chastity but I would bet you dollars to donuts that you couldn't find a enough chastity to fill a bottle cap among all 52 of these women. "Elizabeth Doe" is more like a prostitute who feels that she has not received her promised compensation, not a "rape victim". This should be viewed as a business dispute. When it is financially advantageous to them, suddenly modern "liberated" woman want to be treated as if they were chaste Victorian damsels.

    “This should be viewed as a business dispute. When it is financially advantageous to them, suddenly modern ‘liberated’ woman want to be treated as if they were chaste Victorian damsels.”

    The progressive and forward-thinking court of New York City did exactly that …

    … in 1663!

    When it was still New Amsterdam, the court heard the case of Grietjen Hendricks Westercamp v. Pieter Jacobsen.

    Short version: Gretchen demanded that the court make Pete marry her because he had “lain” with her on promise to marry her. Pete admits the laying part, denies the marrying part, adduces evidence that Gretchen’s not exactly exclusive about whom she lays with. Court considers totality of the evidence, releases Pete from marriage obligation but requires him to pay Gretchen a fee for services rendered. Kaboom! Justice rendered.

    The wisdom of our ancestors … where has it gone?

  231. @Dissident

    Especially nowadays with Viagra, you can always find a guy willing and able to have sex with a girl on camera.
     
    Healthy males in the porn actor demographic needing Viagra? Performance anxiety, perhaps?

    Performance anxiety, perhaps?

    Ron Jeremy has said that one of the major reasons he was able to be continuously employed for years despite his looks was his ability, pre-Viagra, to always be ready to “perform” no matter where or when, no matter how many people were around or how hot or cold the set was.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    WF, if you're the expert on male porn stars, tell me: Is is true that most of them are homosexuals? That's what I've read.

    IMO, they are basically animals.
  232. @guest
    I have no doubt that's been a common feature of all human history. Which means at some level women must enjoy and actually welcome gang rape. Which makes me a little sick to admit, but that may just be my Current Year ignorance at work.

    Point is, we don't know where female invitation and enjoyment begins and ends, nor what is and is not rape, especially in these days of normalized debauchery. (Which doesn't require everyone to be debauched, just that those who are aren't freaks or monsters anymore.) Which is why in the Bad Old Days our civilization kept women on a leash. You may not like that approach, but bear in mind that the modern college campus offers absolutely ZERO solution. They couldn't even if they wanted to.

    We're in a No Man's Land between the old ways and whatever solution the emerging gynocracy will come up with. Probably something out of Aristophanes.

    I have no doubt that’s been a common feature of all human history. Which means at some level women must enjoy and actually welcome gang rape. Which makes me a little sick to admit, but that may just be my Current Year ignorance at work.

    It means no such thing, as should be obvious.

    Men have been beating other men over the head for all of human history. It doesn’t mean men welcome being beat over the head, it simply means it’s reproductively successful for some men to beat other men over the head. Likewise here. It’s reproductively successful for some men to gang rape–specifically to gang rape women that belong to some other tribe\clan; women that they are not going to be able to, or do not want to claim as their own, support\marry. It’s a sign of tribal primitivism and lack of civilization.

    • Agree: Dissident
  233. @ben tillman

    Baptists may not have Jewish IQs, but they’re smart enough to figure out that a rape that isn’t reported to the cops is almost always a consensual hookup the girl later came to regret, for whatever reason.
     
    You couldn't be more wrong. Often a rape that isn't reported to police is one that the victim is entirely unaware of or one that she inferred happened but can't really prove because she was passed out at the time. And it's a certainty that the Baptists at Baylor know this.

    White knight to the rescue.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    White knight to the rescue.
     
    Facts are facts, and I don't approve of human sacrifice. You evidently do.
  234. @Almost Missouri
    A sizeable minority of young lesbians are girls (young women) who would in the past have been virginal, but modern "culture" forbids virginity, or at least strongly shames it, so these girls become lesbian as the next best thing. This works out well for exploitive bull-dikey type of lesbians, who therefore maintain and enforce modern "culture".

    For the lesbians-of-circumstance it works out a little differently. They typically go on antidepressants, become frigid ("lesbian bed death"), and/or eventually go straight in either a healthy or unhealthy way, depending how much damage they have sustained.

    Seen it more than once. Kind of sad, really. Not saying virginity should be mandatory, but it should at least be respected.

    LUGs. Lesbians until graduation.

  235. @Chrisnonymous
    The effective supply of doctors has already been increased with PAs and NPs, which expand the number of patients per doctor that clinics can serve. It hasn't controlled costs. A lot of doctors are not making that much anyhow.

    In the end, the only effective way to control costs will be to deny and delay services. People just haven't accepted this yet.

    PA school is pretty hard to get into, and dark skin and being female are really important for diversity, don’t you know.

    Look at law schools, they’re having to compete for students because the need for more lawyers is declining. Not so at med and PA schools. They turn away people in droves (I have two relatives who applied vigorously for both, with top scores and experience, only to be rejected by all but their last choice schools). I’d say new ones can’t be opened fast enough. It’d be nice if we could have our medical pros be educated here in the US instead of importing what the Third World has to offer.

  236. @Almost Missouri
    Not disagreeing, but there are some important qualifiers:

    1) Differences countries measure infant mortality differently. The US counts anyone born alive as a recordable death for life expectancy purposes. Most other countries require the birth to reach some viability threshold (e.g., not severe preemies) before it can be counted for life expectancy purposes. The numbers are not huge, but because the US records more deaths at approximately age zero, it has an outsize effect on the life expectancy statistics.

    2) You're correct that "life expectancy for non-Hispanic whites is [approximately] the same as the national average", but not that "NAMs don’t drag down the average." Blacks do have lower life expectancy, but this is offset by Asians' (and to a lesser extent Hispanics') higher life expectancy.

    3) The rightward drift of the US curve in James Rose's graph roughly corresponds with increased federal mucking around with healthcare (managed care, HMOs, expansion of Medicare/Medicaid), so it might not serve as the best argument for additional federal intervention in healthcare.

    The basic problem is that we don’t have stringent controls on costs and reimbursements. This is because the various medical lobbies (hospitals, physicians, pharmaceuticals, etc.) are well-organized enough that they can easily buy off most of the political class.

    30% of U.S. healthcare spending is on unneeded tests, fraud, and excessive administrative costs. As long as the medical lobbies continue to own our politicians, nothing will be done to substantially reduce that. Federal intervention has exacerbated the problem because the government reimburses healthcare providers too generously.

    If people paid their own medical costs out-of-pocket, that’d bring down medical costs. It’d also hurt people with serious health problems and make it difficult for them to access healthcare. A more sensible system is insurance. The healthy subsidize the ill. Then (one day) when they become ill, the healthy subsidize them. That enables people to get the healthcare they need without incurring catastrophic medical costs.

    Conservatives have been railing against “big government” for decades, but they had no problem spending $5 trillion in the completely unnecessary and bizarre Iraq War. They don’t mind literally flushing money down the toilet overseas, but get agitated about expanding Medicaid in the U.S.

  237. @whorefinder

    Performance anxiety, perhaps?
     
    Ron Jeremy has said that one of the major reasons he was able to be continuously employed for years despite his looks was his ability, pre-Viagra, to always be ready to "perform" no matter where or when, no matter how many people were around or how hot or cold the set was.

    WF, if you’re the expert on male porn stars, tell me: Is is true that most of them are homosexuals? That’s what I’ve read.

    IMO, they are basically animals.

  238. @ben tillman

    Baptists may not have Jewish IQs, but they’re smart enough to figure out that a rape that isn’t reported to the cops is almost always a consensual hookup the girl later came to regret, for whatever reason.
     
    You couldn't be more wrong. Often a rape that isn't reported to police is one that the victim is entirely unaware of or one that she inferred happened but can't really prove because she was passed out at the time. And it's a certainty that the Baptists at Baylor know this.

    Often a rape that isn’t reported to police is one that the victim is entirely unaware

    LOL

    Yeah, right.

    Even if that were true, then how did these same rapes come to the attention of the lawyer who came up with that figure, if the victims were entirely unaware they’d been raped?

  239. Texas used to be the epitome of the deep South. I believe there was a time not too long ago when a white lynch mob would have formed if rumor of this came out. I’m not so sure who they would have murdered – The football players? Coaches? School administrators? A few innocent black bystanders? All of the above? There would have been hell to pay.

    What exactly happened to the South? Is it because they are so enamored with sports these days? How much money does winning a football game do for one of these schools? I’m not really informed on these matters.

  240. 1745034

    [meta- no need to post but please read]

    Mr. Sailer:

    The comment of mine to which this is a reply, #210 in my view, dated January 29, 2017 at 6:18 am GMT, still shows as “awaiting moderation”– even though it appears to me that all of my other comments to this thread, including some that I had submitted /after/ this one, have all now appeared. Might you have overlooked this one? Please note, as well, that I apparently mistakenly generated a near-duplicate, which shows for me as #211 but the earlier one, #210, is the preferred one to post, as it includes the link of the comment that I was replying-to, while #211 does not.

    I do acknowledge your disclaimer about comments being moderated “at whim” and I am most grateful for your having approved what may very well be, save this pending one, fully 100% of the comments that I have submitted to your threads to-date. I note that this comment that I am inquiring about now, #210, is sufficiently similar to a number of past comments of mine that were approved so as to make it appear unlikely to me that you would make a deliberate decision to reject it.

    Thank you for your time and patience.

    – Dissident

  241. @Almost Missouri
    A sizeable minority of young lesbians are girls (young women) who would in the past have been virginal, but modern "culture" forbids virginity, or at least strongly shames it, so these girls become lesbian as the next best thing. This works out well for exploitive bull-dikey type of lesbians, who therefore maintain and enforce modern "culture".

    For the lesbians-of-circumstance it works out a little differently. They typically go on antidepressants, become frigid ("lesbian bed death"), and/or eventually go straight in either a healthy or unhealthy way, depending how much damage they have sustained.

    Seen it more than once. Kind of sad, really. Not saying virginity should be mandatory, but it should at least be respected.

    Similar thoughts were expressed back in May by iSteve commenter “TheJester”:
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/is-obamas-world-war-t-losing-even-the-nyt/#comment-1422541

    I will quote a sentence from the concluding paragraph but I urge those interested to follow the link and read the entire comment, which is only three paragraphs.

    The danger in all of this is that the SJWs, by precasting scripted rationalizations for girls, women, and minorities of both sexes regarding life and sexuality, are retarding their ability to grow up and deal with reality.

  242. @Anonymous
    Who wants to watch sports played by people who look like they got out of jail? I like watching sports played by people I find attractive. For that reason, men's tennis is probably my favorite sport, especially when Roger Federer is playing.

    Federer-Nadal in the Australian final this early am east coast time was fantastic. The athleticism and skill was off the charts–they are SO good! The tension and back and forth was superb; the fans really got their money’s worth. The remarks by each of them following the match, too, were incredible. What well spoken, humble, gracious men they are. They are true sportsmen and gentlemen. They did not mumble (speaking English, of course not the first language for either) and each of them spent >5 minutes reflecting on the match, praising their opponent, and thanking everyone from the sponsors to their friends to the fans to the people of Australia. Great role models. They are the antithesis of showboating NFL players who dance and strut around in the end zone, and use this silly motion of pretending to be spooning food into their mouths after making a big play. Don’t get me going on the dreadlocks of NFL and college football players.

  243. @Mark Caplan

    one of the biggest obstacles to affordable health care is the insurance industry, which really got rolling in the middle of the last century. [...] Insurance is a racket, they drive the prices up.
     
    Advances in other industries drive down costs. Advances in medicine drive up costs: coronary artery bypasses, organ transplants, targeted genetic therapies, exotic drugs, chemotherapy, hip and knee replacements, CAT scans, MRIs. Those advances weren't routinely available in the middle of the last century.

    Not disagreeing , just a little factoid ; the first CABG was done in 1960 , the first heart transplant in 1967 . I remember Tom Snyder doing a special on health care costs in the US in 78 or 79 . He was going on at one point about how there was one CAT machine in the entire country of Sweden and just the city of Denver had two . Now every hospital in the country has both CAT and MRI . From Wikpedia : “The first transplant in the modern sense – the implantation of organ tissue in order to replace an organ function – was a thyroid transplant in 1883.” And : “By 1984 two-thirds of all heart transplant patients survived for five years or more.” I have personally seen more than one doctor perform an unnecessary procedure on a patient just to be able to put a tick in the box . And in one case contrary to the pt’s. expressed wishes. Maybe approaching 7 1/2 billion people we don’t really need these heroic efforts to save lives.

  244. @Dissident

    Especially nowadays with Viagra, you can always find a guy willing and able to have sex with a girl on camera.
     
    Healthy males in the porn actor demographic needing Viagra? Performance anxiety, perhaps?

    Performance anxiety maybe, but male parts just weren’t designed to work at the beck and call of film directors. Those are extremely unusual circumstances.

  245. @Dissident
    Was it really necessary to be quite that graphic and particular in describing what disgusts you?

    You should have seen the first draft.

  246. @Almost Missouri
    Obama passed Obamacare and not only wore it around his neck but was the literal namesake of the law, yet somehow he won a second term by a respectable margin...

    Obama won a respectable margin against a Wall Street true-conservative who wanted to “Let Detroit go Bankrupt” ripped off the pensions of factory workers before shutting them down, defended the Iraq war and picked Paul Ryan as VP.

  247. @Chrisnonymous
    You're assuming that health care costs are driven by doctor fees, which I doubt.

    Labor costs, including physicians, nurses, profusionists, respiratory therapists, etc., etc., are a big component of healthcare costs.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    Well, you just changed the issue quite a bit.

    How do you propose to bring down costs from hospital workers like nurses? Oh, hey, places like the Philipines and Indonesia have lots of women with comparable skills!! Paging Dr. Zuckerberg, paging Dr. Zuckerberg...

    From an article that agrees with you about physician fees:

    Reducing the need for specialist services is the best answer. If you eliminate the service, price does not matter...
     
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/toddhixon/2012/03/07/more-evidence-that-doctor-fees-are-a-big-reason-medicine-costs-more-in-the-u-s/

    As I said, denial of services is ultimately the answer that will be adopted, but people just have yet to accept it. It's the only answer that won't simply result in cost shifting. Behavioral change to reduce chronic disease burden will come secondary to this service reduction, not drive it as this article suggests.
  248. @Opinionator
    The easiest way to reduce healthcare costs is to reduce healthcare.

    How does one "reduce healthcare"?

    How does one “reduce healthcare”?

    For starters, maybe not spending money to keep grandma alive another 3 months. She has lived long enough; let her go.

  249. @Dave Pinsen
    Labor costs, including physicians, nurses, profusionists, respiratory therapists, etc., etc., are a big component of healthcare costs.

    Well, you just changed the issue quite a bit.

    How do you propose to bring down costs from hospital workers like nurses? Oh, hey, places like the Philipines and Indonesia have lots of women with comparable skills!! Paging Dr. Zuckerberg, paging Dr. Zuckerberg…

    From an article that agrees with you about physician fees:

    Reducing the need for specialist services is the best answer. If you eliminate the service, price does not matter…

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/toddhixon/2012/03/07/more-evidence-that-doctor-fees-are-a-big-reason-medicine-costs-more-in-the-u-s/

    As I said, denial of services is ultimately the answer that will be adopted, but people just have yet to accept it. It’s the only answer that won’t simply result in cost shifting. Behavioral change to reduce chronic disease burden will come secondary to this service reduction, not drive it as this article suggests.

  250. @Anon7
    The veterinary medicine racket is amazing. My family's "free" barn cat was bitten by another animal, and the total cost was $1,200. They're learning fast.

    I'd also point out that (based on my observations of my friend's daughter, currently in vet school) at least 80 percent of veterinary medicine students are female. They know a racket when they see one. Ten percent of the pressure of med school, and 100 percent of the money that pediatricians make. Smart.

    Veterinarian seems like a great career for guys who like animals, that’s for sure. Well-respected, great male-female ratio and you don’t have to touch people.

  251. @Truth

    I have zero sympathy for girls who socialize with athletes. Groupies is the most lenient word for them.
     
    Big Chief, I have sympathy for you; I hear the inside of a locker is a cold, lonely place...

    The inside of your head must be an echo chamber where all you hear is: “black, blacketty, black, black!”

    If you took the pain to read between the lines, I sincerely don’t believe your kinsmen committed “rape” rape, that is, proper rape. Though doubtless you must be proud of their ability to never take no for an answer, to fornicate with drunken or passed out women, and to stir each other’s porridge, as the English put it. Your bruthars can never do wrong.

  252. @AnotherDad
    Disgusting, embarrassing.

    When is there going to be some college presidents or board of trustees who are willing to stand up for their mission. Sure it's difficult because of "racist!" and, of course, all the money. But, be a man or woman and do your job--stand up and pull the plug on this nonsense.

    You can join the University of Chicago in being a university.

    Or if intercollegiate athletics is a part of the culture you want to keep, then form a league with other like minded colleges and universities, that you won't recruit--no reduced admission standards, no promised scholarships. You'll simply have tryouts for teams from the actual student body. Could offer the ones that make it "scholarships" that are essentially the same as other campus jobs.

    Better, i'd say is a culture of intramural sports. Let the co-eds root on the atheletic guys playing each other. Or play co-ed intramural softball with them. Either way they are at least association with young men who are appropriate husbands for them. That's what a young woman's beauty is best used for--landing a guy who has high husband\father potential. Not as a t-and-a fishing lure to get some thug to bite on a recruitment pitch.

    The pathetic, cucked, go-along-get-along nature of supposed white "adults" is embarrasing. Take a stand for civilization.

    In addition to Division III, which someone mentioned below, the Ivy League works this way. They do some recruiting, and lowering academic standards a bit, but don’t offer athletic scholarships (or any “merit” scholarships). At least in theory: I don’t know whether they have certain boosters or other independent means to grease the wheels for athletes.

    The athletes in major sports do tend to congregate in fraternities, etc. at some schools. But it’s closer to the original collegiate ideal than the rotten big sports schools.

  253. @ScarletNumber
    White knight to the rescue.

    White knight to the rescue.

    Facts are facts, and I don’t approve of human sacrifice. You evidently do.

    • Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian
    Facts are facts, and I don’t approve of human sacrifice. You evidently do.

    Yes, facts are facts. And the fact is, you made a strikingly stupid statement. And rather than say, "Yeah, I kinda blew it there", you stand by your original statement, even after it's pointed out how ridiculous it is.

    Some of us noticed that the lawyer is claiming that there have been 52 rapes in 4 years at Baylor, but in only a few cases did the girl go to the police . And we said that means that the number of real rapes can't be anywhere near 52, that most of these are "regret rapes", because when women are actually raped they call the cops, not the dean of student affairs.

    And you said, no, we're wrong, because a whole lot of women who get raped are actually unaware that they've been raped.

    So please explain how a whole bunch of Baylor coeds who didn't go to the police because they are unaware they've been raped...somehow wind up on list of 52 rape victims.

  254. @jtgw
    Reality keeps turning out to be just another Tom Wolfe novel.

    In Wolfe’s I Am Charlotte Simmons, the title character – a white girl from the sticks – is raped by a white frat boy, fends off the advances of a white (Jewish) dweeb, and ends up dating the lone white starter on the basketball team. There’s never any hint that she might go to bed with a black guy.

    It’s a purple-pill book – Wolfe hints at some uncomfortable truths, but doesn’t go far enough.

    I wonder if a major publishing company would publish a novel about, say, a white athlete who finds himself accused of a rape that was actually committed by one (or more) of his black teammates. (He and the girl were so drunk that neither of them remembers what really happened. They wake up in bed, naked, and it’s obvious that she’s been the victim of an assault.)

    The shocking twist is that a Jewish dweeb, who harbors a deep resentment of the white athlete, has a video recording of the assault – he secretly planted a webcam in the white athlete’s room. (Shades of the Rutgers gay-suicide case.) The dweeb is considering his options: Does he expose the truth, does he try to blackmail the athletic department (and, by extension, the university as a whole), or does he sit back and do nothing while an innocent guy is thrown to the wolves?

    The other shocking twist is that the Jewish dweeb recently broke up with his Asian girlfriend. (Shades of The Social Network.) She knows that he’s a voyeur who gets sick jollies out of spying on promiscuous jocks. (Shades of Sliver.) She knows that he knows the truth, and has her own reasons both for wanting to expose the truth and for fearing that doing so might jeopardize her own position.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    Not that it matters, but I'll flesh it out a little more:

    The white guy is a star football player. He's a Rob Gronkowski type - a tall, handsome, muscular, hard-partying meathead who can score almost at will. When he encounters the rare pretty girl who can resist his charms, his hormones go into overdrive. His sexual exploits are the subject of campus legend.

    Late on a Saturday night, this guy makes an aggressive pass at this girl at a frat party and is loudly rejected, in front of many witnesses. He is already fairly drunk and screams obscenities at her, calling her a slut and a whore. (I'm not saying this guy is a saint; I am saying that he's innocent of the crime of which he's accused.)

    The next morning, they wake up in his bed, both nude; she is bruised and dazed. Her shredded clothes are lying on the floor. Thus begins the nightmare.

    (Naturally, there is cell-phone footage of the argument at the frat party; after the assault, which quickly becomes national news, this video gets played every ten minutes on CNN. The footage - universally described as incontrovertible "evidence" of the white jock's guilt - sets up the Narrative very nicely, and makes it trivially easy for those in the media with nefarious intentions to convict this guy long before he's even arrested. The president - this novel is set in the Obama years - digs him an even deeper hole by offhandedly referring to him as a "rapist" at a press conference.)

    As for the Asian girlfriend ... she knows about the webcams because she helped the Jewish dweeb set them up. (He has dozens, if not hundreds, of such cameras in rooms all over campus.) The two of them had hoped to take the most salacious recordings and sell them as pornography. (The dweeb's uncle runs a Girls Gone Wild-type company.)

    The Asian girl is as unscrupulous as anyone. She broke up with the Jewish dweeb not because he was a sicko who could conceive of such a depraved and immoral moneymaking scheme, but because she doubted that he had the brains and the balls to pull it off. (Ultimately, she is looking for the best deal she can get.)

    She is reluctant to expose her own involvement in the illegal operation, but, at the same time, she hates the dweeb with a passion - he's one of those ultra-loser types that, according to Whiskey, engender nothing but HATE HATE HATRED from women - and is determined to prevent him from capitalizing on his lucky break. Her main interest is in preventing him from manipulating this situation to his own advantage. That being said, she's also the white jock's best last hope.

    In all likelihood, the Jewish dweeb does try to blackmail the university, and the university does agree to pay him an exorbitant sum for his footage and his silence. The Asian girl then seeks to obtain the footage, the only copies of which are stored on hard drives that the dweeb guards with his life, and release it to the media, denying the dweeb his payday *and* exposing him as a pathetic pervert.

    That exposing the truth would destroy the football program is immaterial to her, as is the fact that it would clear the white jock's name. Her only motive is personal revenge. (She can always claim that her involvement in illegal activities was due to coercion by an evil white guy.)

    What do you think?
    , @guest
    The pervert in Sliver was not a Jewish dweeb, but handsome Irishman Billy Baldwin. Unless he played the role of a Jewish dweeb; I don't know. All I remember about that movie is UB40's version of "Can't Help Falling in Love."

    I want to read your novel, by the way. Get cracking.
  255. @Stan Adams
    In Wolfe's I Am Charlotte Simmons, the title character - a white girl from the sticks - is raped by a white frat boy, fends off the advances of a white (Jewish) dweeb, and ends up dating the lone white starter on the basketball team. There's never any hint that she might go to bed with a black guy.

    It's a purple-pill book - Wolfe hints at some uncomfortable truths, but doesn't go far enough.

    I wonder if a major publishing company would publish a novel about, say, a white athlete who finds himself accused of a rape that was actually committed by one (or more) of his black teammates. (He and the girl were so drunk that neither of them remembers what really happened. They wake up in bed, naked, and it's obvious that she's been the victim of an assault.)

    The shocking twist is that a Jewish dweeb, who harbors a deep resentment of the white athlete, has a video recording of the assault - he secretly planted a webcam in the white athlete's room. (Shades of the Rutgers gay-suicide case.) The dweeb is considering his options: Does he expose the truth, does he try to blackmail the athletic department (and, by extension, the university as a whole), or does he sit back and do nothing while an innocent guy is thrown to the wolves?

    The other shocking twist is that the Jewish dweeb recently broke up with his Asian girlfriend. (Shades of The Social Network.) She knows that he's a voyeur who gets sick jollies out of spying on promiscuous jocks. (Shades of Sliver.) She knows that he knows the truth, and has her own reasons both for wanting to expose the truth and for fearing that doing so might jeopardize her own position.

    Not that it matters, but I’ll flesh it out a little more:

    The white guy is a star football player. He’s a Rob Gronkowski type – a tall, handsome, muscular, hard-partying meathead who can score almost at will. When he encounters the rare pretty girl who can resist his charms, his hormones go into overdrive. His sexual exploits are the subject of campus legend.

    Late on a Saturday night, this guy makes an aggressive pass at this girl at a frat party and is loudly rejected, in front of many witnesses. He is already fairly drunk and screams obscenities at her, calling her a slut and a whore. (I’m not saying this guy is a saint; I am saying that he’s innocent of the crime of which he’s accused.)

    The next morning, they wake up in his bed, both nude; she is bruised and dazed. Her shredded clothes are lying on the floor. Thus begins the nightmare.

    (Naturally, there is cell-phone footage of the argument at the frat party; after the assault, which quickly becomes national news, this video gets played every ten minutes on CNN. The footage – universally described as incontrovertible “evidence” of the white jock’s guilt – sets up the Narrative very nicely, and makes it trivially easy for those in the media with nefarious intentions to convict this guy long before he’s even arrested. The president – this novel is set in the Obama years – digs him an even deeper hole by offhandedly referring to him as a “rapist” at a press conference.)

    As for the Asian girlfriend … she knows about the webcams because she helped the Jewish dweeb set them up. (He has dozens, if not hundreds, of such cameras in rooms all over campus.) The two of them had hoped to take the most salacious recordings and sell them as pornography. (The dweeb’s uncle runs a Girls Gone Wild-type company.)

    The Asian girl is as unscrupulous as anyone. She broke up with the Jewish dweeb not because he was a sicko who could conceive of such a depraved and immoral moneymaking scheme, but because she doubted that he had the brains and the balls to pull it off. (Ultimately, she is looking for the best deal she can get.)

    She is reluctant to expose her own involvement in the illegal operation, but, at the same time, she hates the dweeb with a passion – he’s one of those ultra-loser types that, according to Whiskey, engender nothing but HATE HATE HATRED from women – and is determined to prevent him from capitalizing on his lucky break. Her main interest is in preventing him from manipulating this situation to his own advantage. That being said, she’s also the white jock’s best last hope.

    In all likelihood, the Jewish dweeb does try to blackmail the university, and the university does agree to pay him an exorbitant sum for his footage and his silence. The Asian girl then seeks to obtain the footage, the only copies of which are stored on hard drives that the dweeb guards with his life, and release it to the media, denying the dweeb his payday *and* exposing him as a pathetic pervert.

    That exposing the truth would destroy the football program is immaterial to her, as is the fact that it would clear the white jock’s name. Her only motive is personal revenge. (She can always claim that her involvement in illegal activities was due to coercion by an evil white guy.)

    What do you think?

  256. @ben tillman

    White knight to the rescue.
     
    Facts are facts, and I don't approve of human sacrifice. You evidently do.

    Facts are facts, and I don’t approve of human sacrifice. You evidently do.

    Yes, facts are facts. And the fact is, you made a strikingly stupid statement. And rather than say, “Yeah, I kinda blew it there”, you stand by your original statement, even after it’s pointed out how ridiculous it is.

    Some of us noticed that the lawyer is claiming that there have been 52 rapes in 4 years at Baylor, but in only a few cases did the girl go to the police . And we said that means that the number of real rapes can’t be anywhere near 52, that most of these are “regret rapes”, because when women are actually raped they call the cops, not the dean of student affairs.

    And you said, no, we’re wrong, because a whole lot of women who get raped are actually unaware that they’ve been raped.

    So please explain how a whole bunch of Baylor coeds who didn’t go to the police because they are unaware they’ve been raped…somehow wind up on list of 52 rape victims.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    Yes, facts are facts. And the fact is, you made a strikingly stupid statement. And rather than say, “Yeah, I kinda blew it there”, you stand by your original statement, even after it’s pointed out how ridiculous it is.
     
    No, that was not pointed out. And I did not say what you claim I said.

    I contradicted your idiotic claim that "a rape that isn’t reported to the cops is almost always a consensual hookup the girl later came to regret."

    Learn to read.

  257. @Diversity Heretic
    I wonder what the number of female students is at Iowa State's School of Veterinary Medicine? It seems to me that it must be devoted to livestock. Being a veterinarian to livestock is dirty and can even be dangerous--a cow can weigh half a ton or more and even if it doesn't mean to hurt you it can inflict serious damage if it falls on you or pushes you against a fence.

    I wonder what the number of female students is at Iowa State’s School of Veterinary Medicine?

    It’s amazing how much data is easily available out there. A simple search turned up:
    https://vetmed.iastate.edu/future-dvm-students/apply-to-the-college/other-information/class-profiles
    2016 entering class (graduating 2020) is 77.4% women. They have links to PDFs for other years. I also checked 2012 which was 75.8% women.

  258. @Stan Adams
    In Wolfe's I Am Charlotte Simmons, the title character - a white girl from the sticks - is raped by a white frat boy, fends off the advances of a white (Jewish) dweeb, and ends up dating the lone white starter on the basketball team. There's never any hint that she might go to bed with a black guy.

    It's a purple-pill book - Wolfe hints at some uncomfortable truths, but doesn't go far enough.

    I wonder if a major publishing company would publish a novel about, say, a white athlete who finds himself accused of a rape that was actually committed by one (or more) of his black teammates. (He and the girl were so drunk that neither of them remembers what really happened. They wake up in bed, naked, and it's obvious that she's been the victim of an assault.)

    The shocking twist is that a Jewish dweeb, who harbors a deep resentment of the white athlete, has a video recording of the assault - he secretly planted a webcam in the white athlete's room. (Shades of the Rutgers gay-suicide case.) The dweeb is considering his options: Does he expose the truth, does he try to blackmail the athletic department (and, by extension, the university as a whole), or does he sit back and do nothing while an innocent guy is thrown to the wolves?

    The other shocking twist is that the Jewish dweeb recently broke up with his Asian girlfriend. (Shades of The Social Network.) She knows that he's a voyeur who gets sick jollies out of spying on promiscuous jocks. (Shades of Sliver.) She knows that he knows the truth, and has her own reasons both for wanting to expose the truth and for fearing that doing so might jeopardize her own position.

    The pervert in Sliver was not a Jewish dweeb, but handsome Irishman Billy Baldwin. Unless he played the role of a Jewish dweeb; I don’t know. All I remember about that movie is UB40’s version of “Can’t Help Falling in Love.”

    I want to read your novel, by the way. Get cracking.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    Sliver featured several Enigma songs, as well.

    I wrote another post fleshing out the plot, but Steve squelched it.

    I've added yet another twist: the hard-partying white jock has a secret admirer/stalker who happens to be the roommate/supposed friend/secret worst enemy of the victim. The stalker, fat and unhappy, is insanely jealous of her pretty roommate.

    At a frat party, the jock - admittedly drunk - makes a pass at the victim; she loudly, profanely, and publicly rebuffs him. (The argument is recorded on several cell phones; this footage is later played ad nauseam on national television and is hyped as incontrovertible evidence of the Great White Defendant's guilt.) The stalker sees this and puts her nefarious plan into motion.

    (The stalker's intention is to humiliate the victim by destroying her reputation. She is not aware that the black football players with whom she has made certain arrangements have an agenda of their own: they intend to drug their star white teammate, knocking him out, and frame him for the crime.)

    The victim, still frazzled from her public confrontation with the jock, goes back to her room, where her "concerned" roommate offers her a sympathetic ear and a nice cold bottle of Snapple. (One guess as to whether she's added any special ingredients to the mix.)

    It all goes downhill from there. She wakes up in the white jock's room.

    Before the breakup, the Jewish dweeb and the Asian girlfriend set up a network of webcams in various dorm rooms to capture (they hope) salacious footage to sell online. The girlfriend breaks up with the dweeb not because she objects to his involvement in such an illegal and immoral scheme, but because she doubts that he has what it takes to pull it off

    Once the dweeb realizes he has the only definitive proof* of what really happened on that fateful night, he tries to blackmail the university for as much as he can get. The girlfriend then decides to try to obtain the footage from the dweeb (not an easy task, given that he guards the hard drives with his life) and expose it, thus denying him his payday.

    SPOILER
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    *The girlfriend is unable to obtain the footage. The dweeb does, indeed, hand over what he has to the university administration (for a tidy profit), and it seems that there is no one on earth who can prove the white jock's innocence. But it turns out that one of the black football players recorded the entire assault on *his* cell phone. (These kids are not geniuses. They're dumb enough to think that they'll never get caught.) His black girlfriend catches him with the stalker and, in a jealous rage, steals his cell phone and begins looking for evidence of his other trysts. She stumbles upon the incriminating footage - they were even dumb enough to film themselves dragging the passed-out white jock into his room, all the while bragging loudly about what they were doing - and sells it to TMZ for a princely sum.

    In the end, the black athletes go to jail, the athletic department is dismantled, and the university president resigns in disgrace. The white jock is vindicated, but his dream of an NFL career is ruined; he ends up moving to Hollywood and becoming a star of B-action movies. The victim becomes a professional author of feminist-diatribe novels. The stalker becomes an "activist" - a professional victim. (She is not to blame; it was the patriarchy's fault.) The dweeb encounters some legal problems, but eventually is quietly recruited by the NSA for his skill at installing surveillance equipment. The girlfriend marries a rich Jewish guy.
  259. @guest
    The pervert in Sliver was not a Jewish dweeb, but handsome Irishman Billy Baldwin. Unless he played the role of a Jewish dweeb; I don't know. All I remember about that movie is UB40's version of "Can't Help Falling in Love."

    I want to read your novel, by the way. Get cracking.

    Sliver featured several Enigma songs, as well.

    I wrote another post fleshing out the plot, but Steve squelched it.

    I’ve added yet another twist: the hard-partying white jock has a secret admirer/stalker who happens to be the roommate/supposed friend/secret worst enemy of the victim. The stalker, fat and unhappy, is insanely jealous of her pretty roommate.

    At a frat party, the jock – admittedly drunk – makes a pass at the victim; she loudly, profanely, and publicly rebuffs him. (The argument is recorded on several cell phones; this footage is later played ad nauseam on national television and is hyped as incontrovertible evidence of the Great White Defendant’s guilt.) The stalker sees this and puts her nefarious plan into motion.

    (The stalker’s intention is to humiliate the victim by destroying her reputation. She is not aware that the black football players with whom she has made certain arrangements have an agenda of their own: they intend to drug their star white teammate, knocking him out, and frame him for the crime.)

    The victim, still frazzled from her public confrontation with the jock, goes back to her room, where her “concerned” roommate offers her a sympathetic ear and a nice cold bottle of Snapple. (One guess as to whether she’s added any special ingredients to the mix.)

    It all goes downhill from there. She wakes up in the white jock’s room.

    Before the breakup, the Jewish dweeb and the Asian girlfriend set up a network of webcams in various dorm rooms to capture (they hope) salacious footage to sell online. The girlfriend breaks up with the dweeb not because she objects to his involvement in such an illegal and immoral scheme, but because she doubts that he has what it takes to pull it off

    Once the dweeb realizes he has the only definitive proof* of what really happened on that fateful night, he tries to blackmail the university for as much as he can get. The girlfriend then decides to try to obtain the footage from the dweeb (not an easy task, given that he guards the hard drives with his life) and expose it, thus denying him his payday.

    SPOILER
    SPOILER
    SPOILER
    SPOILER
    SPOILER

    *The girlfriend is unable to obtain the footage. The dweeb does, indeed, hand over what he has to the university administration (for a tidy profit), and it seems that there is no one on earth who can prove the white jock’s innocence. But it turns out that one of the black football players recorded the entire assault on *his* cell phone. (These kids are not geniuses. They’re dumb enough to think that they’ll never get caught.) His black girlfriend catches him with the stalker and, in a jealous rage, steals his cell phone and begins looking for evidence of his other trysts. She stumbles upon the incriminating footage – they were even dumb enough to film themselves dragging the passed-out white jock into his room, all the while bragging loudly about what they were doing – and sells it to TMZ for a princely sum.

    In the end, the black athletes go to jail, the athletic department is dismantled, and the university president resigns in disgrace. The white jock is vindicated, but his dream of an NFL career is ruined; he ends up moving to Hollywood and becoming a star of B-action movies. The victim becomes a professional author of feminist-diatribe novels. The stalker becomes an “activist” – a professional victim. (She is not to blame; it was the patriarchy’s fault.) The dweeb encounters some legal problems, but eventually is quietly recruited by the NSA for his skill at installing surveillance equipment. The girlfriend marries a rich Jewish guy.

  260. @40 Acres and A Kardashian
    Facts are facts, and I don’t approve of human sacrifice. You evidently do.

    Yes, facts are facts. And the fact is, you made a strikingly stupid statement. And rather than say, "Yeah, I kinda blew it there", you stand by your original statement, even after it's pointed out how ridiculous it is.

    Some of us noticed that the lawyer is claiming that there have been 52 rapes in 4 years at Baylor, but in only a few cases did the girl go to the police . And we said that means that the number of real rapes can't be anywhere near 52, that most of these are "regret rapes", because when women are actually raped they call the cops, not the dean of student affairs.

    And you said, no, we're wrong, because a whole lot of women who get raped are actually unaware that they've been raped.

    So please explain how a whole bunch of Baylor coeds who didn't go to the police because they are unaware they've been raped...somehow wind up on list of 52 rape victims.

    Yes, facts are facts. And the fact is, you made a strikingly stupid statement. And rather than say, “Yeah, I kinda blew it there”, you stand by your original statement, even after it’s pointed out how ridiculous it is.

    No, that was not pointed out. And I did not say what you claim I said.

    I contradicted your idiotic claim that “a rape that isn’t reported to the cops is almost always a consensual hookup the girl later came to regret.”

    Learn to read.

    • Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian
    So a woman can somehow wind up on a list of rape victims without even knowing she was raped?

    What an idiot.
  261. @ben tillman

    Yes, facts are facts. And the fact is, you made a strikingly stupid statement. And rather than say, “Yeah, I kinda blew it there”, you stand by your original statement, even after it’s pointed out how ridiculous it is.
     
    No, that was not pointed out. And I did not say what you claim I said.

    I contradicted your idiotic claim that "a rape that isn’t reported to the cops is almost always a consensual hookup the girl later came to regret."

    Learn to read.

    So a woman can somehow wind up on a list of rape victims without even knowing she was raped?

    What an idiot.

  262. @dc.sunsets
    Stupid is as stupid does.

    White girls who hang around blacks get what they deserve. People who play with rattlesnakes can't complain about being bitten.

    A white girl who was raped by a black better have the broken bones or knife wounds to prove it. If she so much as knew his first name, she bears the same culpability for her condition as the mugging victim who loudly flashed his cash & Rolex.

    It's long past time to heap derision on these stupid girls whose mothers failed the first rule of parenting.

    “White girls who hang around blacks get what they deserve.”

    But up till now there’s been a lack of information, and imaging perpetrated by establishment media. Lots of people know who Emmett Till was and he’s getting his own movie later on this year. How many people know who Christopher Newsome was?

    Inexperienced and naive young girls don’t grasp the danger involved. And the danger is concealed by the establishment.

    A young girl isn’t to blame if her mother failed to warn her about black boys or men taking their hatred out on white girls or women.

    And it gets more complicated if her mom divorced her dad and her stepfather loathes her.

    Being naive, or stupid, is a risk, not a moral fault. They go with the territory, being young, and these days, brainwashed.

  263. @dc.sunsets
    Stupid is as stupid does.

    White girls who hang around blacks get what they deserve. People who play with rattlesnakes can't complain about being bitten.

    A white girl who was raped by a black better have the broken bones or knife wounds to prove it. If she so much as knew his first name, she bears the same culpability for her condition as the mugging victim who loudly flashed his cash & Rolex.

    It's long past time to heap derision on these stupid girls whose mothers failed the first rule of parenting.

    “A white girl who was raped by a black better have the broken bones or knife wounds to prove it.”

    I personally know two who were raped at knife point and did not have the broken bones or knife wounds to prove it.

    They submitted because they wanted to preserve their lives.

  264. @guest
    I have no doubt that's been a common feature of all human history. Which means at some level women must enjoy and actually welcome gang rape. Which makes me a little sick to admit, but that may just be my Current Year ignorance at work.

    Point is, we don't know where female invitation and enjoyment begins and ends, nor what is and is not rape, especially in these days of normalized debauchery. (Which doesn't require everyone to be debauched, just that those who are aren't freaks or monsters anymore.) Which is why in the Bad Old Days our civilization kept women on a leash. You may not like that approach, but bear in mind that the modern college campus offers absolutely ZERO solution. They couldn't even if they wanted to.

    We're in a No Man's Land between the old ways and whatever solution the emerging gynocracy will come up with. Probably something out of Aristophanes.

    “…at some level women must enjoy and actually welcome gang rape.”

    No. The word “rape” implies, “against my consent”. No one enjoys being marauded. Lots of terror (will I still be alive when this is over?) and physical pain is involved.

    You are no rapist, clearly.

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