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Chicago Field Museum diorama of hyenas in Somalia

Since the BBC published an article in 2013 entitled “Where Hyenas Are Used to Treat Mental Illness,” it has been widely reported that in Somalia, families rent hyenas to lock in a room overnight with their insane loved ones.

Is this true?

I’ve been able to track this idea back six years earlier in time, including a 2011 Toronto Globe & Mail article, 2010 World Health Organization report, and a 2007 Chicago Tribune story.

But, most of the articles about the “hyena cure” feature an expert source called “Dr. Habeb,” an entrepreneur who runs a widely-advertised chain of lunatic asylums in Somalia. Dr. Habeb (he actually only is a nurse) is clearly your go-to guy for a punchy quote about how bad mental health care is in Somalia. (It’s bad. Also, according to Dr. Habeb, so is mental health in Somalia. There appears to be a lot of insanity, whether PTSD from all the violence, or from all the khat-chewing, or maybe it’s a culturally-sanctioned way to act out.)

Hyenas look sort of like dogs (although much less so than jackals), but they are more closely related to the mongoose. They are famous for being sexually obscure and having dominant females. (Thus, in The Lion King, the male hyenas, voiced by Cheech Marin and Jim Cummings, are subordinate to Whoopi Goldberg.)

The idea that hyenas and insanity are somehow related has been around for a long time. Gericault painted a portrait in 1822 entitled The Madwoman (a.k.a., The Hyena of Saltpetiere).

A teenage Rimbaud (the namesake of Sylvester Stallone’s Rambo) published a poem in 1872 entitled “A Season in Hell” about, I think, insanity:

‘You’re a hyena still…’ the demon cries who crowned me with such delightful poppies.

A hyena hole in Harar

Rimbaud later moved from hyena-free Europe to the hyena capital of Harar, a walled Muslim city in Ethiopia near the Somalia border. Harar is famous for having “hyena holes” in the town wall to let hyenas in at night to scavenge domestic animals who drop dead in the streets.

Australian anthropologist Marcus Baynes-Rock, author of the recent book, Among the Bone Eaters, spent over a year following the hyena scavengers around Harar. Baynes-Rock explains the logic. From his dissertation:

In general, hyenas are not well liked. Indeed, hyenas are usually feared, loathed, vilified, derided, persecuted and where people have the means, eradicated. Often, hyenas are associated with what are called witches (Johnstone 1902, p. 265; Morris 2000, p. 168).

Hyenas’ nocturnal habits, human-like giggles and propensity to exhume and consume human corpses makes them obvious companions to people exercising supernatural means to malevolent ends (Gray 1963, p. 167). Often the hyenas do the bidding of the witches, bringing home fresh human meat, or else they are ridden through the night sky, with flames shooting from their anuses (Beidelman 1963, p. 65; 1975, p. 190; Gray 1963, p. 166). In many countries, witches are believed to transform into hyenas and prowl around at night looking for victims to eat (Niehaus 1995, p. 514; Rutherford 1999, p. 95; Sapir 1981, p. 533).

On the other hand, the urbanites of Harar are more pro-hyena than most Africans. Baynes-Rock has a website aimed at schoolchildren, presumably including fans of the secondary bad guys in “The Lion King,” on which he explains:

But it is not simply a matter of hyenas refraining from attacking people and getting food scraps in return. The other service that hyenas perform is to clear the town of bad jinn [a.k.a., genies]. These unseen spirits enter the town through the same holes that the hyenas use and are a constant threat to the people of Harar. I myself have heard many stories of jinn possession and met with someone who was possessed by multiple jinn. Hyenas for their part, can see jinn and they attack them whenever they get the chance. The jinni runs in fear from the hyena and enters the ground but the hyena puts its nose to the ground at that place and sucks the jinni from the earth and into its stomach where it perishes. This is when the hyena makes an oowoop noise. Hararis tell me that after a hyena eats a jinni, it will vomit up hair, fingernails and even precious stones. If you manage to find a hyena cave you’ll find these precious stones.

From WBUR, the NPR station in Boston:

Baynes-Rock knew of cases in which psychologically unbalanced people were brought to the hyenas in hopes of some kind of exorcism.

So, it’s not just Dr. Habeb making up the Hyena Cure.

 
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  1. One of the scenes in Robert Ruark’s novel Something of Value involves the use of a hyena to frighten a Mau-Mau into revealing valuable information. The colonists convinced him through a combination of drugs, Guy Fawkes Day masks, and a tame hyena, that he had been temporarily transported to hell. He gave his information knowing that the Mau-Mau would kill him, but secure in the knowledge that he would not spend eternity in hell as a hyena.

    It was all very picturesue in Kenya and maybe in Somalia. Not so attractive in Russell Square, London, or in Minneapolis.

    • Replies: @James O'Meara
    @Diversity Heretic

    +10 for referencing an unjustly forgotten novel of my yoot.

    Replies: @PV van der Byl

  2. The toxic twins Paul Ryan and Hussein Obama could use this hyena cure. Lock them both in the same room with some English speaking hyenas. Lets see who comes out on top.

  3. They are famous for being sexually obscure and having dominant females. (Thus, in The Lion King, the male hyenas, voiced by Cheech Marin and Jim Cummings, are subordinate to Whoopi Goldberg.)

    Indeed, as Hollywood would not normally place (black) female characters in authority over (Hispanic and white) men.

    • Replies: @Johan Schmidt
    @Lurker

    Do I detect a hint of sarcasm? Angela Basset didn't have any trouble exerting authority in Strange Days [1995] (an astonishingly prophetic film, by the way - 20 years ahead of its time).

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Brutusale

  4. Hyenas supposedly have the most powerful bite for its size of any land predator. They don’t look like something you want to mess with. They look like something out of JRR Tolkien’s imagination.

    One of the most interesting things I’ve read about them was that there was a large prehistoric species of Hyena that lived in Northern Asia, which was apparently so fearsome that it single-handedly delayed humans’ arrival in North America via the Bering Strait.

  5. Steve is referring to this.

  6. Is it just me or is there something terribly wrong about Hillary’s laugh?

    • Replies: @Stebbing Heuer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    You mean, hyena-like?

    We'll have to wait for a video of 'shooting flames' for confirmation.

    , @TheJester
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I think you are onto something. If hyenas cavort with evil spirits (they live in the same netherworld), then perhaps the Hildabeast is pretending to be a hyena (the laugh AND the look) to keep hyenas from finding her and eating her ... eating evil spirits that is ... to thwart her attempt at world domination. QED ... nothing could be clearer.

    , @e
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I've been reading rumors, rumors that appear to be spurred on by some real incidents at Clinton speaking engagements, that Hillary suffers from what are called Jacksonian seizures.

    http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=7453


    There have been times when Hillary seems to blank out and stop talking. It happened just recently when she spotted and/or heard a protester in her audience. A supposed secret service man always at her side stepped up to her and whispered "keep talking." People who believe she is suffering from these Jacksonian seizures report that this has happened often and that the same man is by her side. They seem to feel he doesn't look as if his somewhat portly frame is that of an actual secret service man.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azUpfzDNxpw

    I suppose the medical "cover up" stories are related to her past problem with a blood clot, her daily regimen of warfarin to prevent another blood clot, her wearing of those thick glasses which experts said were meant to clear up double vision (she wore them during her Benghazi testimony), her tendency to stop talking and stare, this man's elbow presence at her side for a long while. People who follow such things claim the behavior seen in this youtube has happened at other venues. I don't know. I have just recently heard of this.

  7. I dont think anyone doubted that they really do it…

    Homer: See Marge? I told you they could deep fry my shirt.

    Marge: I didn’t say they couldn’t. I said you shouldn’t.

  8. @Lurker

    They are famous for being sexually obscure and having dominant females. (Thus, in The Lion King, the male hyenas, voiced by Cheech Marin and Jim Cummings, are subordinate to Whoopi Goldberg.)
     
    Indeed, as Hollywood would not normally place (black) female characters in authority over (Hispanic and white) men.

    Replies: @Johan Schmidt

    Do I detect a hint of sarcasm? Angela Basset didn’t have any trouble exerting authority in Strange Days [1995] (an astonishingly prophetic film, by the way – 20 years ahead of its time).

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Johan Schmidt

    I was wondering about the sarcasm, too, for if there wasn't any the commenter has obviously never watched "Law and Order."

    I actually just watched several episodes of "law and Order" and found them to be very entertaining with interesting story lines. However, I can't believe how every episode seems to have quite a few highly intelligent, very confident and very ethical black women and many highly competent - and usually very attractive - "strong", white women. White men often seem to exist mostly in the background of this show or as criminals. (I know other people here have commented here on this show in the past.)

    , @Brutusale
    @Johan Schmidt

    True that, though my girlfriend could beat the crap out of Ralph Fiennes. Great cast, and a script that James Cameron wrote for his ex-wife to direct. Cameron had definitely read some Gibson, Sterling and the other cyberpunks, though the movie most hews to 60s holdover Norman Spinrad's Little Heroes.

  9. @JohnnyWalker123
    Is it just me or is there something terribly wrong about Hillary's laugh?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwHCvmiBjY8

    Replies: @Stebbing Heuer, @TheJester, @e

    You mean, hyena-like?

    We’ll have to wait for a video of ‘shooting flames’ for confirmation.

  10. Hyenas look sort of like dogs (although much less so than jackals), but they are more closely related to the mongoose.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyena

    Although phylogenetically they are closer to felines and viverrids, hyenas are behaviourally and morphologically similar to canines in several aspects; both hyenas and canines are nonarboreal, cursorial hunters that catch prey with their teeth rather than claws. Both eat food quickly and may store it, and their calloused feet with large, blunt, nonretractable nails are adapted for running and making sharp turns. However, the hyenas’ grooming, scent marking, defecating habits, mating, and parental behaviour are consistent with the behaviour of other feliforms.[4]

    Hyenas first arose in Eurasia during the Miocene period from viverrid-like ancestors

  11. Is this true?

    Are you questioning Auntie?

  12. “Thus, in The Lion King, the male hyenas, voiced by Cheech Marin and Jim Cummings, are subordinate to Whoopi Goldberg.”

    If anyone could pull off a critter with a pseudo-penis, it’s Whoopi, with her raspy deep voice.

  13. Beware of Silvester Stallone and the like: Rimbaud, Djinn-eating Hyenas, Dr. Habeb, The Chicago Tribune, iSteve, Goethe and so on (Marcel Proust)

    What I assumed in my former post about Dr. Habeb, that he was – not without reasons – inclined to impress the western experts with the big purse, is pretty much confirmed by the Chicago Tribune article cited above.
    Hyenas are the very kind of shock-treatment westerners long for, and Dr. Habeb successfully applied it. Business as usual between different civilisations – a way to bridge the gap!

    We are prone to shock and awe – this is truly human.
    And by and large one of the many reasons that make Urban Legends so strong.

    Rimbaud was one of the rebels without a cause, – and he had this seventh sense of many artists (Silvester Stallone). He understood very well, that the discomfort in culture (Freud) is a threat – and therefor a perfect artistic subject. That the female Hyenas are stronger than the males was an aspect, that spoke to opium-eater and pothead Rimbaud, since he already felt the dawning of the patriarch – same thing that Marcel Proust’s In Search of The Lost Time tackles. But this time definitely from the homosexuals perspective
    .
    By the way: The supersenible Marcel Proust had a cruel side to him as well: He had an obsession with rats, whom he used to torture together with friends. The rats were in a cage and the young lads applied long needles for their pleasure; which consisted of other cruelties as well…

    Goethe outplayed this kind of existential threads: He knew about our longign for the wild and the supernatural (Hyenas eating up djinns…), the terrible and so forth. He even knew about the enormous amount of things we know nothing of. His solution was a) to delve deep into the real world. One exmple is his interest in the theory of evolution (he once donated a few horse sculls to the Jena Univerity to encourage them to start this kind of science (…horse heads are a good starting point for this purpose, he wrote in an acompanying letter). The other cure for our mental needs Goehte proposed, was to deal with our fascination with the darkess on the edge of town, with altered states of mind (Rimbaud) the devil (Rimbaud) and the witches and so forth, with the structural incompleteness of our scientific knowledge, – – all this Goethe turned into Essays, Poems, Novels, Plays – Faust I + II , letters, conversations. He played with these existential threads. – Same as we do, if we create – and listen, and talk and write (!) and phantsize about Hyenas – and other urban legends. That’s good, actually. But we have to keep in mind, what literary and folk science tell us about them. Most important point: Beware – urban legends are very attractive – and therefor powerful. Or you may put it the other way round. But still: Beware: – If you meet me, have some courtesy, have some sympathy, and have some taste – – . This will suffice.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    @Dieter Kief

    Rimbaud, Proust, Goethe--piffle on these effete hothouse boys.

    Further evidence that some genetic pools are NOT meant to live in cities.

    I.e., the agricultural hive regime of the ancient Near East.

    It makes Northerners crazy. It's supposed to. That's how the lugal keeps his power via his priests. Threat of starvation or famine on one end, wacky stories about reality on the other. In between, the hive dwellers, lining up at the temple gates for their bowl of grain, wondering Is This All There Is. Applied to the descendants of the Ice Age, it's hell on earth.

  14. ” Harar is famous for having “hyena holes” in the town wall to let hyenas in at night to scavenge domestic animals who drop dead in the streets.”

    Of course, without those hyena holes in the town walls perhaps they wouldn’t have as many critters running around in their streets in the first place.

  15. Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to not be locked in a room with a hyena…

  16. When Mayo Clinic, Minnesota’s largest employer, gets into this, then it’s time to go long on hyena stocks. Is Berkshire-Hathaway onto this?

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Reg Cæsar


    "Is Berkshire-Hathaway onto this?"
     
    Given that Uncle Warren's biggest investments are insurance companies, and this is a relatively inexpensive course of treatment, I' d be surprised if BH hadn't at least run this through a SWOT analysis.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  17. @Reg Cæsar
    When Mayo Clinic, Minnesota's largest employer, gets into this, then it's time to go long on hyena stocks. Is Berkshire-Hathaway onto this?

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    “Is Berkshire-Hathaway onto this?”

    Given that Uncle Warren’s biggest investments are insurance companies, and this is a relatively inexpensive course of treatment, I’ d be surprised if BH hadn’t at least run this through a SWOT analysis.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @The Alarmist

    Uncle Warren doesn't do medical insurance, only Property/Casualty .

  18. These unseen spirits enter the town through the same holes that the hyenas use and are a constant threat to the people of Harar.

    Holes to let in hyenas to get rid of the spirits that come in through the hyena holes. Pretty good metaphor for globalist logic: we need to let in more muslims so the muslims that we keep letting in don’t kill us.

    Most people think of hyenas as scavengers but they’re actually apex predators. Their reputation as scavengers is due to them being seen picking the bones of carcasses lions are done with, but it’s typically a kill the hyenas actually made the previous night that was taken from them by the lions.

  19. I can believe that Somalis lock people up overnight with a hyena that’s chained a short but safe distance away.

    I don’t know much about hyenas but reasoning from what I know about dogs, a frustrated hyena would likely make “psychotherapeutic” noises and gestures all night long.

    Whereas an unchained hyena would just efficiently eat the victim and then settle down to a satisfied sleep. Maybe the only sounds you’d get then would be a burp and some snoring.

  20. So, when is Angela Merkel getting the ‘hyena cure’?

  21. Another machete attack in Europe–this time against police in the Belgian city of Charleroi. Attacker shouted “Allahu Akbar.” Two Belgian cops injured;attacker shot dead.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/belgium-police-attack-news-latest-man-shouting-allahu-akbar-attacks-two-officers-in-charleroi-with-a7176361.html

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Diversity Heretic

    "Another machete attack in Europe–this time against police in the Belgian city of Charleroi. Attacker shouted “Allahu Akbar.” Two Belgian cops injured;attacker shot dead."

    Islam is a religion of peace. The terrorist didn't shout Allahu Akbar, he most likely either shouted "Make America Great Again", "Mexico Is Going To Pay For The Wall", "Sieg Heil", or "White Power".

    Islamic terrorists do not exist. Let's go back to focusing on the real threat to world peace and that is Donald Trump & White Christian terrorists. This ad has been paid for by The Southern Poverty Law Center.

  22. @Diversity Heretic
    One of the scenes in Robert Ruark's novel Something of Value involves the use of a hyena to frighten a Mau-Mau into revealing valuable information. The colonists convinced him through a combination of drugs, Guy Fawkes Day masks, and a tame hyena, that he had been temporarily transported to hell. He gave his information knowing that the Mau-Mau would kill him, but secure in the knowledge that he would not spend eternity in hell as a hyena.

    It was all very picturesue in Kenya and maybe in Somalia. Not so attractive in Russell Square, London, or in Minneapolis.

    Replies: @James O'Meara

    +10 for referencing an unjustly forgotten novel of my yoot.

    • Replies: @PV van der Byl
    @James O'Meara

    Agreed. Ruark never wrote a better book.

    That un-PC but all too accurate book got him sent down the memory hole, however.

    Hunting enthusiasts still know who he is but depressingly few others do.

  23. The Bible’s Leviticus (11:27-28) says that the dead bodies of quadripuds that walk on paws (e.g. canines) are unclean:

    Of the various quadrupeds, all those that walk on paws are unclean for you; everyone who touches their dead bodies shall be unclean until evening, and everyone who picks up their dead bodies shall wash his garments and be unclean until evening.

    Five years ago, I began a blog to explain much such reasoning about contamination and purification. (I intend to continue the blog in the future. )

    Paws are covered with a skin that is rather soft, which enables demons to move from the ground up into the animal. Eventually, the demons might move from the pawed animal into a human being.

    This Leviticus passage describes two different events and their different consequences:

    1) If you touch a dead dog, then you will be unclean until evening.

    2) If you pick up a dead dog, then you must wash your clothes, and then you will be unclean until evening.

    The reasoning here starts with the idea that the demons inside a dog are adapted to occupying an animal but not yet adapted to occupying a person. Such demons cannot transition from an animal’s interior to a human’s interior easily. The demons can accomplish the transition, however, if they first establish an intermediate base on a person’s clothing. After they have become acclimatized to occupying on a person’s clothing, then they can enter the person himself if an opportunity occurs — for example, if the man ejaculates. The act of ejaculation opens the man’s body momentarily, which is long enough for the demon to move from the clothing into the man.

    When a person merely touches a dead dog, the implied understanding is that the only contact was between the dead dog and the person’s skin — and that there was no contact between the dead dog and the person’s clothing. A demon cannot move from the dead dog onto the person’s fingers; the demon can move only onto the person’s clothing.

    When a person picks up a dead dog, then the implied understanding is that the dead dog touched the person’s clothing, and so a demon was able to move from the dead dog onto the clothing, which then might serve as a base that will enable the demon later to move into the person.

    Somehow, the setting of the sun causes the person to become significantly less vulnerable. The person’s sweating skin during the daylight’s heat caused some vulnerability to entrance by a demon, because sweat is a bodily discharge, somewhat like semen or menstrual blood. After the sun sets, and the person’s body stops sweating profusely, then the person’s skin becomes a solid wall that demons cannot penetrate.

    So, if a person touches a dead dog with his hands (not with any clothing), then his sweaty hands make him vulnerable until the sun sets and the temperature cools and his hands stop sweating. Any demons that came from the dead dog and that are able to wait nearby for an opportunity to enter the person will have to depart when the sun sets.

    If a demon from a dead dog managed to get onto the person’s clothing, then washing the clothing with water moves the demon off of the clothing, and the demon will have to depart when the sun sets.

    Another explanation for the effect of sweat is a water that washes the skin adequately for situations such as a person’s skin touching a dead dog. During the daylight’s heat, the skin sweats enough to prevent such a demon moving from a dead dog and attaching itself to a person’s skin. Since the person’s clothing does not sweat, the demon can attach itself to the clothing.

    The important concept I want to communicate here is that in the case of contact with a dead dog, the person’s body does not have to be washed with water. Only the person’s clothing must be washed with water, if the clothing touched the dead dog.

    http://bronze-serpent-origin-christianity.blogspot.com/2011/07/purification-by-water.html

    • Replies: @Mike Sylwester
    @Mike Sylwester

    Canines (e.g. hyenas) are impervious to some demons that occupy rodents and lizards.

    Canines and rodents all have paws, through which some demons can enter from the ground. Additionally, though, rodents and lizards have relatively low abdomens. From the ground, some demons can enter those low abdomens but cannot enter canines' higher abdomens.

    Of course, humans have much higher abdomens than canines, so some demons can, from the ground, enter canines' middle-height abdomens but cannot enter humans' higher abdomens.

    -----

    According to Leviticus, several animal species made a person unclean if he ate the animal, but did not make the person unclean if he touched their dead bodies. These were animals that swarm but do not creep. The animals were categorized as follows:

    * Examples of animals that creep are weasels, mice, lizards, tortoises, geckos and chameleons. They walk around on short legs, so that their stomachs sometimes touch the ground (i.e. they creep).

    * Examples of animals that creep and also swarm are rats, mice, lizards, geckos and chameleons. They often move around quickly in groups (i.e. they swarm).

    * Examples of animals that creep but do not swarm are weasels and tortoises.

    An animal that creeped -- whose abdomen rose and lowered to touch the ground repeatedly -- was very vulnerable to being entered by demons. Inside such creeping animals, however, the demons were not able to move easily onto people, as long as the animal was alive. As soon as the animal died, however, a demon inside the animal's dead body could move easily into a person who ate or touched the body.

    Animals that swarmed -- that moved quickly in a group -- seemed to be possessed by demons. The very act of swarming demonstrated the entire group was possessed. The demons in those animals likewise could not move easily onto people, as long as the animals remained alive. As soon as they died, the demons could move into a person who ate or touched the animal's body.

    An animal that does swarm but does not creep -- in particular, a snake -- might be possessed by a demon, but the demon cannot pass through the animal's skin. A person can touch a live snake or a dead snake, and a demon inside the snake's body cannot pass through the snake's skin and move onto or into the person. Only if the person cuts through the skin or cooks the skin and then eats the snake's inside meat can the demon pass into the person.

    The purification method for a person who touched the dead body of an unclean animal was to wash the person's clothing, not the person's body. Apparently, a demon inside a dead unclean animal jumped first onto the person's clothing and then had to wait for another opportunity to move from the clothing into the body.

    In this animal hierarchy, canines likewise would not become contaminated by eating fresh prey but would become contaminated merely by touching long-dead animals. After an animals has been dead for a while, the demons inside the dead body are more likely to resettle into another being that merely touches the dead body.

    Hyenas eat bodies that have been dead for a while, so they absorb more demons than canines who eat only fresh prey. This all must fit into the Somalis' reasoning about hyenas and demons.

    Replies: @Truth

    , @Kyle
    @Mike Sylwester

    They're felines not canines. But that's irrelevant.

    , @Yngvar
    @Mike Sylwester

    Religious (or ideological) rules have no meaning and need not be explained. They're just invented to compel conformed behavior among the group members.

  24. @Mike Sylwester
    The Bible's Leviticus (11:27-28) says that the dead bodies of quadripuds that walk on paws (e.g. canines) are unclean:

    Of the various quadrupeds, all those that walk on paws are unclean for you; everyone who touches their dead bodies shall be unclean until evening, and everyone who picks up their dead bodies shall wash his garments and be unclean until evening.
     
    Five years ago, I began a blog to explain much such reasoning about contamination and purification. (I intend to continue the blog in the future. )

    Paws are covered with a skin that is rather soft, which enables demons to move from the ground up into the animal. Eventually, the demons might move from the pawed animal into a human being.

    This Leviticus passage describes two different events and their different consequences:

    1) If you touch a dead dog, then you will be unclean until evening.

    2) If you pick up a dead dog, then you must wash your clothes, and then you will be unclean until evening.

    The reasoning here starts with the idea that the demons inside a dog are adapted to occupying an animal but not yet adapted to occupying a person. Such demons cannot transition from an animal's interior to a human's interior easily. The demons can accomplish the transition, however, if they first establish an intermediate base on a person's clothing. After they have become acclimatized to occupying on a person's clothing, then they can enter the person himself if an opportunity occurs -- for example, if the man ejaculates. The act of ejaculation opens the man's body momentarily, which is long enough for the demon to move from the clothing into the man.

    When a person merely touches a dead dog, the implied understanding is that the only contact was between the dead dog and the person's skin -- and that there was no contact between the dead dog and the person's clothing. A demon cannot move from the dead dog onto the person's fingers; the demon can move only onto the person's clothing.

    When a person picks up a dead dog, then the implied understanding is that the dead dog touched the person's clothing, and so a demon was able to move from the dead dog onto the clothing, which then might serve as a base that will enable the demon later to move into the person.

    Somehow, the setting of the sun causes the person to become significantly less vulnerable. The person's sweating skin during the daylight's heat caused some vulnerability to entrance by a demon, because sweat is a bodily discharge, somewhat like semen or menstrual blood. After the sun sets, and the person's body stops sweating profusely, then the person's skin becomes a solid wall that demons cannot penetrate.

    So, if a person touches a dead dog with his hands (not with any clothing), then his sweaty hands make him vulnerable until the sun sets and the temperature cools and his hands stop sweating. Any demons that came from the dead dog and that are able to wait nearby for an opportunity to enter the person will have to depart when the sun sets.

    If a demon from a dead dog managed to get onto the person's clothing, then washing the clothing with water moves the demon off of the clothing, and the demon will have to depart when the sun sets.

    Another explanation for the effect of sweat is a water that washes the skin adequately for situations such as a person's skin touching a dead dog. During the daylight's heat, the skin sweats enough to prevent such a demon moving from a dead dog and attaching itself to a person's skin. Since the person's clothing does not sweat, the demon can attach itself to the clothing.

    The important concept I want to communicate here is that in the case of contact with a dead dog, the person's body does not have to be washed with water. Only the person's clothing must be washed with water, if the clothing touched the dead dog.

    http://bronze-serpent-origin-christianity.blogspot.com/2011/07/purification-by-water.html

    Replies: @Mike Sylwester, @Kyle, @Yngvar

    Canines (e.g. hyenas) are impervious to some demons that occupy rodents and lizards.

    Canines and rodents all have paws, through which some demons can enter from the ground. Additionally, though, rodents and lizards have relatively low abdomens. From the ground, some demons can enter those low abdomens but cannot enter canines’ higher abdomens.

    Of course, humans have much higher abdomens than canines, so some demons can, from the ground, enter canines’ middle-height abdomens but cannot enter humans’ higher abdomens.

    —–

    According to Leviticus, several animal species made a person unclean if he ate the animal, but did not make the person unclean if he touched their dead bodies. These were animals that swarm but do not creep. The animals were categorized as follows:

    * Examples of animals that creep are weasels, mice, lizards, tortoises, geckos and chameleons. They walk around on short legs, so that their stomachs sometimes touch the ground (i.e. they creep).

    * Examples of animals that creep and also swarm are rats, mice, lizards, geckos and chameleons. They often move around quickly in groups (i.e. they swarm).

    * Examples of animals that creep but do not swarm are weasels and tortoises.

    An animal that creeped — whose abdomen rose and lowered to touch the ground repeatedly — was very vulnerable to being entered by demons. Inside such creeping animals, however, the demons were not able to move easily onto people, as long as the animal was alive. As soon as the animal died, however, a demon inside the animal’s dead body could move easily into a person who ate or touched the body.

    Animals that swarmed — that moved quickly in a group — seemed to be possessed by demons. The very act of swarming demonstrated the entire group was possessed. The demons in those animals likewise could not move easily onto people, as long as the animals remained alive. As soon as they died, the demons could move into a person who ate or touched the animal’s body.

    An animal that does swarm but does not creep — in particular, a snake — might be possessed by a demon, but the demon cannot pass through the animal’s skin. A person can touch a live snake or a dead snake, and a demon inside the snake’s body cannot pass through the snake’s skin and move onto or into the person. Only if the person cuts through the skin or cooks the skin and then eats the snake’s inside meat can the demon pass into the person.

    The purification method for a person who touched the dead body of an unclean animal was to wash the person’s clothing, not the person’s body. Apparently, a demon inside a dead unclean animal jumped first onto the person’s clothing and then had to wait for another opportunity to move from the clothing into the body.

    In this animal hierarchy, canines likewise would not become contaminated by eating fresh prey but would become contaminated merely by touching long-dead animals. After an animals has been dead for a while, the demons inside the dead body are more likely to resettle into another being that merely touches the dead body.

    Hyenas eat bodies that have been dead for a while, so they absorb more demons than canines who eat only fresh prey. This all must fit into the Somalis’ reasoning about hyenas and demons.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Mike Sylwester

    Interesting, I just read Leviticus.

    Replies: @Mike Sylwester

  25. @JohnnyWalker123
    Is it just me or is there something terribly wrong about Hillary's laugh?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwHCvmiBjY8

    Replies: @Stebbing Heuer, @TheJester, @e

    I think you are onto something. If hyenas cavort with evil spirits (they live in the same netherworld), then perhaps the Hildabeast is pretending to be a hyena (the laugh AND the look) to keep hyenas from finding her and eating her … eating evil spirits that is … to thwart her attempt at world domination. QED … nothing could be clearer.

  26. Interesting. I was just listening to a BBC radio broadcast last week about the practice of certain tribes in Malawi of giving young teenage girls to men called Hyenas to break them in sexually, which practice is supposed to purify their souls, and also provides a living to the men who are employed as hyenas, who may get as much as $5 for a weekend’s work servicing clients.

    Unfortunately, as was revealed in the program, some of the Hyenas are secretly HIV positive, so the purification may not be as effective as intended.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2016/07/29/487672132/malawis-hyena-men-paid-by-parents-to-have-sex-with-their-daughters

  27. e says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Is it just me or is there something terribly wrong about Hillary's laugh?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwHCvmiBjY8

    Replies: @Stebbing Heuer, @TheJester, @e

    I’ve been reading rumors, rumors that appear to be spurred on by some real incidents at Clinton speaking engagements, that Hillary suffers from what are called Jacksonian seizures.

    http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=7453

    There have been times when Hillary seems to blank out and stop talking. It happened just recently when she spotted and/or heard a protester in her audience. A supposed secret service man always at her side stepped up to her and whispered “keep talking.” People who believe she is suffering from these Jacksonian seizures report that this has happened often and that the same man is by her side. They seem to feel he doesn’t look as if his somewhat portly frame is that of an actual secret service man.

    I suppose the medical “cover up” stories are related to her past problem with a blood clot, her daily regimen of warfarin to prevent another blood clot, her wearing of those thick glasses which experts said were meant to clear up double vision (she wore them during her Benghazi testimony), her tendency to stop talking and stare, this man’s elbow presence at her side for a long while. People who follow such things claim the behavior seen in this youtube has happened at other venues. I don’t know. I have just recently heard of this.

  28. http://twistedsifter.com/2012/05/hyena-handlers-of-nigeria

    great photos, particularly this guy:

    In Abuja we found them living on the periphery of the city in a shantytown – a group of men, a little girl, three hyenas, four monkeys and a few rock pythons. It turned out that they were a group of itinerant minstrels, performers who used the animals to entertain crowds and sell traditional medicines. The animal handlers were all related to each other and were practising a tradition passed down from generation to generation.

  29. Dirk Dagger [AKA "That\'s Not Who We Are"] says: • Website

    Meanwhile, in the U.S. of A. real patriots face … BACKLASH!

    In a volatile summer dominated by a fiery presidential campaign, global terrorist attacks and police-community tensions at home, [Abdi] Warsame said it seems more people are feeling emboldened to lash out at anyone they can find to blame. In the past year, he’s led successful efforts to fund a new job-training center, redevelop local parks and ban plastic bags, among other municipal issues. He’s helped young Somali-Americans secure jobs as police officers and staffers at City Hall. But to some of the people on the phone and in his inbox, all of that is irrelevant. He is Muslim, and they are angry.

    “That is the environment we find ourselves in,” Warsame said. “How much work do you have to do to prove yourself? What do you have to do to prove your patriotism?

    … from today’s Minneapolis Star-Tribune
    Amped up hate mail worries Minneapolis’ Abdi Warsame;
    More are emboldened to lash out, says only Muslim on the Minneapolis City Council.

  30. OT here but relating to Sailer’s piece on names, and the old adage

    “The naming of a child is a blow from which they never recover”

    How could you resist literally putting your heart in the hands of a cardiac Surgeon called
    Loki Skylizard?

    http://www.barnabashealth.org/Press-Center/Monmouth-Medical-Center-News/2013/Dr-Loki-Skylizard-Joins-Barnabas-Health-Medical-.aspx

    That name in turn led to this fine site .

    http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/2014-name-of-the-year-bulltron-and-sithole-regionals-1550380405

    Where, despite the presence of such monika’s as Shitavious Cook, my own favorite was
    Jigme Thinley.

    Happy Sunday.

    (Skylizard btw got to choose his own name when he was 8 years old: no recovery is expected soon.)

  31. This place is a freakin’ 600 level course in anthropology!

  32. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Johan Schmidt
    @Lurker

    Do I detect a hint of sarcasm? Angela Basset didn't have any trouble exerting authority in Strange Days [1995] (an astonishingly prophetic film, by the way - 20 years ahead of its time).

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Brutusale

    I was wondering about the sarcasm, too, for if there wasn’t any the commenter has obviously never watched “Law and Order.”

    I actually just watched several episodes of “law and Order” and found them to be very entertaining with interesting story lines. However, I can’t believe how every episode seems to have quite a few highly intelligent, very confident and very ethical black women and many highly competent – and usually very attractive – “strong”, white women. White men often seem to exist mostly in the background of this show or as criminals. (I know other people here have commented here on this show in the past.)

  33. Not so sure ’bout what happens when you lock in a closet together a hyena and a southern Norwegian , but I know that the science tells us how hyenas’ homophobic attitude is something that puts them definitely on the wrong side of the history.

    But then again, I did not consult with a Leviticus on any of this issues.

  34. “The idea that hyenas and insanity are somehow related has been around for a long time.”

    When tertiary syphilis attacked Robert Schumann’s brain in early 1854, he first heard angelic voices and beautiful music. But days later, as his wife wrote, “The angels’ voices transformed themselves into the voices of demons, with horrible music…he screamed in pain (for, as he told me afterwards, the embodiments of tigers and hyenas were rushing forward to seize him).”

    Weeks later, he was taken to an asylum where in 1856, he died hopelessly insane, bereft of the power of speech, movement and recognition.

  35. Dueling Health systems. If Trump wanted to really win, he’d focus on Somalis with Hyenas and Zika.

    He’d have to spend money publicizing that Hillary wants to bring in people who think being locked up with Hyenas is a smart move to cure mental illeness; while refusing to close the borders to Zika-infested countries which he Trump, would do; and add in a dose of quarantine for US citizens coming back from Zika-infested places.

    Tagline: Because your baby is the most important thing in the world.

    Trump is losing big because he’s allowing Hillary! to dictate the fight — about Trump being “mean” and “racist” and saying things a White man is just not allowed to say. He needs to agree and amplify that by raising the stakes that Hillary can’t match. By agreeing he’s all of that and its precisely why he’ll protect mothers unborn infants from Zika.

    Women care most about their babies. None wants a deformed kid with a microcephalic head, which means a lifetime of care and no grandkids. That’s hard-wired and Trump by being politically incorrect, breaking taboos about what a White man can and will say and do; can clobber Hillary by appealing to women with kids and women who know women with kids, directly. Its a direct emotional appeal that Hillary! being Open Borders Dogma can’t match. And Trump should mesh it with a promise to keep Somalis out.

    Message: “only the bad, bad White man can protect your infant. Because only he is bad enough.” Its political Judo, but I don’t think Trump 2.0, politically correct, Paul-Ryan Obedient, has it in him to do that.

    I read Steve’s accounts and I figure, Somalis are primitive, stupid, insane, and in no way should any of them *EVER* be allowed to even visit this country, much less live here, much less get welfare and become citizens. They can’t even organize disposal of dead bodies and some mental health treatment — and we are supposed to grovel at their feet because Diversity?

    I’ll note Drudge reports that the Syrian Refugees are being settled far, far away from wealthy DC suburbs.

  36. I am pretty sure they don’t. What would be the point as the hyenas will attack and eat the person.

    Hyenas are all over the place in the horn of Africa, and people have a weird and interesting relationship with them. The hyenas live among people for the most part peacefully even in cities and towns where they come out at night to scavage around dumpsters. They are like bears here. For the most part they are left alone even thought they do though rarely attack people -usually a somali kid herding his goats.

    No one seems afraid of them though their jaws could kill in a second and they are truly ugly creatures.

    Hyenas eating donkeys are part of the children’ folklore (Tom and Jerry like). The stories are cowardly hyena, the clever monkey and of course the fearsome lion.

    The city of harar in eastern ethiopia close to the Somali border is a popular tourist destination where hundreds of westerners go to see the hyena man. See the links below. He is famous for feeding the hyenas with his mouth and the tourist get to frolick with them as well. For some reason lately, BBC has been running a lot of stories about hyenas in east Africa. Dunno know why but an interesting article link is below.

    In Harar, the hyenas truly own the night where they are deliberately allowed to descend into the city from the surrounding mountains. I’ve seem them.

    http://roderickphillips.com/hyena-feeding-harar-day-322/

    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35725229

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Merema

    Those things are huge.

    Even so, I noticed they all have trimmer hocks than the cankles of death.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  37. Anthro-apoligist-Minneapolis-Chimps-Hyenas-Game Theory……..I’m voting for Trump!

    “…..Michael Wilson, an anthropologist at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis who carried out the previous study with chimps, describes the work as “very elegant” and says it makes sense that hyenas should be so adept with numbers. “Their livelihoods depend on defending group territories and keeping track of how many rivals they face,” he says. “You don’t want to start a fight with the neighbours if you are outnumbered.” ….”

    Link: http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110817/full/news.2011.484.html

  38. @The Alarmist
    @Reg Cæsar


    "Is Berkshire-Hathaway onto this?"
     
    Given that Uncle Warren's biggest investments are insurance companies, and this is a relatively inexpensive course of treatment, I' d be surprised if BH hadn't at least run this through a SWOT analysis.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Uncle Warren doesn’t do medical insurance, only Property/Casualty .

  39. @Diversity Heretic
    Another machete attack in Europe--this time against police in the Belgian city of Charleroi. Attacker shouted "Allahu Akbar." Two Belgian cops injured;attacker shot dead.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/belgium-police-attack-news-latest-man-shouting-allahu-akbar-attacks-two-officers-in-charleroi-with-a7176361.html

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Another machete attack in Europe–this time against police in the Belgian city of Charleroi. Attacker shouted “Allahu Akbar.” Two Belgian cops injured;attacker shot dead.”

    Islam is a religion of peace. The terrorist didn’t shout Allahu Akbar, he most likely either shouted “Make America Great Again”, “Mexico Is Going To Pay For The Wall”, “Sieg Heil”, or “White Power”.

    Islamic terrorists do not exist. Let’s go back to focusing on the real threat to world peace and that is Donald Trump & White Christian terrorists. This ad has been paid for by The Southern Poverty Law Center.

  40. Not that this is surprising. At all.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-07/french-tourism-slumps-as-terror-attacks-spook-foreign-travelers

    small snip:

    ”International flight bookings to Nice dropped 57 percent compared with the previous year from the date of the attack to July 23, while planned arrivals this month and in September were down by about a fifth for France as a whole, according to travel-data specialist ForwardKeys, citing reservation numbers through July 23.”

  41. @Merema
    I am pretty sure they don't. What would be the point as the hyenas will attack and eat the person.

    Hyenas are all over the place in the horn of Africa, and people have a weird and interesting relationship with them. The hyenas live among people for the most part peacefully even in cities and towns where they come out at night to scavage around dumpsters. They are like bears here. For the most part they are left alone even thought they do though rarely attack people -usually a somali kid herding his goats.

    No one seems afraid of them though their jaws could kill in a second and they are truly ugly creatures.


    Hyenas eating donkeys are part of the children' folklore (Tom and Jerry like). The stories are cowardly hyena, the clever monkey and of course the fearsome lion.

    The city of harar in eastern ethiopia close to the Somali border is a popular tourist destination where hundreds of westerners go to see the hyena man. See the links below. He is famous for feeding the hyenas with his mouth and the tourist get to frolick with them as well. For some reason lately, BBC has been running a lot of stories about hyenas in east Africa. Dunno know why but an interesting article link is below.

    In Harar, the hyenas truly own the night where they are deliberately allowed to descend into the city from the surrounding mountains. I've seem them.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybo8qSb__aI

    http://roderickphillips.com/hyena-feeding-harar-day-322/

    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35725229

    Replies: @Kylie

    Those things are huge.

    Even so, I noticed they all have trimmer hocks than the cankles of death.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Kylie

    Kylie, The Buffalo Zoo has a hyena in an enclosure that has glass viewing panels that allows the beast to get within an inch or two of you, although behind the protective glass. The hyena is larger than a Rottweiler but smaller than a Cane Corso, and way scarier looking than either of these two formidable dogs. I'll check out his hocks on my next visit.

    Replies: @Kylie

  42. What’s eating Burhaan Siyaad-Mogadishunssen so much, that he was forced to learn big words such as lawsuit and boycott?

    “Cedar towing known targeting Somalia’s in Minneapolis and fellows every ware they GO like hyenas follows the buffalo, but this time we going to fight for our rights and the fight is ON there will be lawsuit against Cedar towing and we will boycott any company who do business with Cedar towing.”

  43. @Mike Sylwester
    @Mike Sylwester

    Canines (e.g. hyenas) are impervious to some demons that occupy rodents and lizards.

    Canines and rodents all have paws, through which some demons can enter from the ground. Additionally, though, rodents and lizards have relatively low abdomens. From the ground, some demons can enter those low abdomens but cannot enter canines' higher abdomens.

    Of course, humans have much higher abdomens than canines, so some demons can, from the ground, enter canines' middle-height abdomens but cannot enter humans' higher abdomens.

    -----

    According to Leviticus, several animal species made a person unclean if he ate the animal, but did not make the person unclean if he touched their dead bodies. These were animals that swarm but do not creep. The animals were categorized as follows:

    * Examples of animals that creep are weasels, mice, lizards, tortoises, geckos and chameleons. They walk around on short legs, so that their stomachs sometimes touch the ground (i.e. they creep).

    * Examples of animals that creep and also swarm are rats, mice, lizards, geckos and chameleons. They often move around quickly in groups (i.e. they swarm).

    * Examples of animals that creep but do not swarm are weasels and tortoises.

    An animal that creeped -- whose abdomen rose and lowered to touch the ground repeatedly -- was very vulnerable to being entered by demons. Inside such creeping animals, however, the demons were not able to move easily onto people, as long as the animal was alive. As soon as the animal died, however, a demon inside the animal's dead body could move easily into a person who ate or touched the body.

    Animals that swarmed -- that moved quickly in a group -- seemed to be possessed by demons. The very act of swarming demonstrated the entire group was possessed. The demons in those animals likewise could not move easily onto people, as long as the animals remained alive. As soon as they died, the demons could move into a person who ate or touched the animal's body.

    An animal that does swarm but does not creep -- in particular, a snake -- might be possessed by a demon, but the demon cannot pass through the animal's skin. A person can touch a live snake or a dead snake, and a demon inside the snake's body cannot pass through the snake's skin and move onto or into the person. Only if the person cuts through the skin or cooks the skin and then eats the snake's inside meat can the demon pass into the person.

    The purification method for a person who touched the dead body of an unclean animal was to wash the person's clothing, not the person's body. Apparently, a demon inside a dead unclean animal jumped first onto the person's clothing and then had to wait for another opportunity to move from the clothing into the body.

    In this animal hierarchy, canines likewise would not become contaminated by eating fresh prey but would become contaminated merely by touching long-dead animals. After an animals has been dead for a while, the demons inside the dead body are more likely to resettle into another being that merely touches the dead body.

    Hyenas eat bodies that have been dead for a while, so they absorb more demons than canines who eat only fresh prey. This all must fit into the Somalis' reasoning about hyenas and demons.

    Replies: @Truth

    Interesting, I just read Leviticus.

    • Replies: @Mike Sylwester
    @Truth

    I'm happy that you are commenting again.

  44. @Kylie
    @Merema

    Those things are huge.

    Even so, I noticed they all have trimmer hocks than the cankles of death.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Kylie, The Buffalo Zoo has a hyena in an enclosure that has glass viewing panels that allows the beast to get within an inch or two of you, although behind the protective glass. The hyena is larger than a Rottweiler but smaller than a Cane Corso, and way scarier looking than either of these two formidable dogs. I’ll check out his hocks on my next visit.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Buffalo Joe

    Joe, I read somewhere the big species of hyenas can get up to about 150 lbs. I had no idea. My Olde English Bulldogge is 71 lbs but I don't think of her as big.

    Of course, her hocks are very trim. Let me know how the hyena's hocks compare to the cankles of death.

  45. @James O'Meara
    @Diversity Heretic

    +10 for referencing an unjustly forgotten novel of my yoot.

    Replies: @PV van der Byl

    Agreed. Ruark never wrote a better book.

    That un-PC but all too accurate book got him sent down the memory hole, however.

    Hunting enthusiasts still know who he is but depressingly few others do.

  46. @Mike Sylwester
    The Bible's Leviticus (11:27-28) says that the dead bodies of quadripuds that walk on paws (e.g. canines) are unclean:

    Of the various quadrupeds, all those that walk on paws are unclean for you; everyone who touches their dead bodies shall be unclean until evening, and everyone who picks up their dead bodies shall wash his garments and be unclean until evening.
     
    Five years ago, I began a blog to explain much such reasoning about contamination and purification. (I intend to continue the blog in the future. )

    Paws are covered with a skin that is rather soft, which enables demons to move from the ground up into the animal. Eventually, the demons might move from the pawed animal into a human being.

    This Leviticus passage describes two different events and their different consequences:

    1) If you touch a dead dog, then you will be unclean until evening.

    2) If you pick up a dead dog, then you must wash your clothes, and then you will be unclean until evening.

    The reasoning here starts with the idea that the demons inside a dog are adapted to occupying an animal but not yet adapted to occupying a person. Such demons cannot transition from an animal's interior to a human's interior easily. The demons can accomplish the transition, however, if they first establish an intermediate base on a person's clothing. After they have become acclimatized to occupying on a person's clothing, then they can enter the person himself if an opportunity occurs -- for example, if the man ejaculates. The act of ejaculation opens the man's body momentarily, which is long enough for the demon to move from the clothing into the man.

    When a person merely touches a dead dog, the implied understanding is that the only contact was between the dead dog and the person's skin -- and that there was no contact between the dead dog and the person's clothing. A demon cannot move from the dead dog onto the person's fingers; the demon can move only onto the person's clothing.

    When a person picks up a dead dog, then the implied understanding is that the dead dog touched the person's clothing, and so a demon was able to move from the dead dog onto the clothing, which then might serve as a base that will enable the demon later to move into the person.

    Somehow, the setting of the sun causes the person to become significantly less vulnerable. The person's sweating skin during the daylight's heat caused some vulnerability to entrance by a demon, because sweat is a bodily discharge, somewhat like semen or menstrual blood. After the sun sets, and the person's body stops sweating profusely, then the person's skin becomes a solid wall that demons cannot penetrate.

    So, if a person touches a dead dog with his hands (not with any clothing), then his sweaty hands make him vulnerable until the sun sets and the temperature cools and his hands stop sweating. Any demons that came from the dead dog and that are able to wait nearby for an opportunity to enter the person will have to depart when the sun sets.

    If a demon from a dead dog managed to get onto the person's clothing, then washing the clothing with water moves the demon off of the clothing, and the demon will have to depart when the sun sets.

    Another explanation for the effect of sweat is a water that washes the skin adequately for situations such as a person's skin touching a dead dog. During the daylight's heat, the skin sweats enough to prevent such a demon moving from a dead dog and attaching itself to a person's skin. Since the person's clothing does not sweat, the demon can attach itself to the clothing.

    The important concept I want to communicate here is that in the case of contact with a dead dog, the person's body does not have to be washed with water. Only the person's clothing must be washed with water, if the clothing touched the dead dog.

    http://bronze-serpent-origin-christianity.blogspot.com/2011/07/purification-by-water.html

    Replies: @Mike Sylwester, @Kyle, @Yngvar

    They’re felines not canines. But that’s irrelevant.

    • Agree: Mike Sylwester
  47. PowerLine Blog has an interesting article about Minnesota’s Somalis and about Donald Trump’s recent remarks about them. The key paragraphs:

    We don’t even have a handle on how large the [Somali] community is [in Minnesota]. The official estimate (there is no official number) is something like 40,000, but the United States Attorney’s Office here used an estimate of 100,000 in its formal written agreement with Somali Community leaders to undertake the so-called Building Community Resilience program.

    Thus it was left to Kelly Riddell to provide an account of the Somali community’s high-volume consumption of Minnesota welfare services — in the Washington Times, in 2015. Riddell’s article remains the go-to piece on the subject. I don’t believe the [Minneapolis] Star Tribune has touched it. ….

    The Somali community has required the intense scrutiny of law enforcement for the past 10 years. The Department of Justice acknowledges that since 2006, “overseas terror organizations” have targeted Twin Cities residents to join al Shabaab (an al Qaeda-allied group in Somalia) and ISIS. Over nearly ten years ending in 2015, the FBI’s Operation Rhino targeted al Shabaab recruiting in Minnesota and resulted in the indictment of some 20 individuals.

    Since 2013, according to the Department of Justice, ISIS has targeted “Twin Cities residents” (i.e., Somalis). The Minneapolis division of the FBI and local law enforcement authorities devote substantial resources to deterring and interrupting the recruitment of Minnesota Somalis. ….

    On Friday [August 5] Donald Trump took up the case of the Somali influx (to both Minnesota and Maine) on the campaign trail. The Star Tribune’s Mila Koumpilova rises to the defense of the Somali community in the supposed news article “Trump’s comments about Minnesota Somalis met with outrage, satisfaction.” She notes that Trump cited Riddell’s article. She doesn’t provide a link or the name of the reporter who wrote it, but we can’t be trusted with too much information.

    Trump referred to the security threat raised by the Minnesota’s Somali community. Here Koumpilova wasn’t entirely sure what Trump was talking about: “Trump appeared to be alluding to the recent convictions of nine young Somali-Americans in what the FBI described as a plot to leave the country and join the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant in Syria.” Could be!

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/08/trump-touches-minnesotas-untouchables.php

    • Replies: @CCZ
    @Mike Sylwester

    From Mogadishu on the Mississippi River.


    Youth Group Wants $4Million State Cash to Stop Somalis Becoming Extremists

    Minnesota Bringmethenews.com
    January 10, 2015 By Adam Uren

    The Ka Joog youth group wants funding to fight terror recruitment.

    Youth group leaders want millions of dollars in state cash to fund activity programs designed to keep Minnesota’s young Somalis out of the clutches of extremist groups.

    The Associated Press reports that Somali youth group Ka Joog are asking for $4.35 million of state cash spread over two years, which it says would keep at-risk Somali youths in Minnesota’s public school system occupied through arts initiatives, workforce training and after-school programs.

     

  48. @Truth
    @Mike Sylwester

    Interesting, I just read Leviticus.

    Replies: @Mike Sylwester

    I’m happy that you are commenting again.

  49. @Buffalo Joe
    @Kylie

    Kylie, The Buffalo Zoo has a hyena in an enclosure that has glass viewing panels that allows the beast to get within an inch or two of you, although behind the protective glass. The hyena is larger than a Rottweiler but smaller than a Cane Corso, and way scarier looking than either of these two formidable dogs. I'll check out his hocks on my next visit.

    Replies: @Kylie

    Joe, I read somewhere the big species of hyenas can get up to about 150 lbs. I had no idea. My Olde English Bulldogge is 71 lbs but I don’t think of her as big.

    Of course, her hocks are very trim. Let me know how the hyena’s hocks compare to the cankles of death.

  50. ridden through the night sky, with flames shooting from their anuses

    families rent hyenas to lock in a room overnight with their insane loved ones

    If you like hyena colonics, and getting caught in a cage.

    • LOL: Kylie
  51. I’ve been saying for years these people are out of their minds. This story is just confirmation for my experiences in Minneapolis.

  52. @Mike Sylwester
    PowerLine Blog has an interesting article about Minnesota's Somalis and about Donald Trump's recent remarks about them. The key paragraphs:

    We don’t even have a handle on how large the [Somali] community is [in Minnesota]. The official estimate (there is no official number) is something like 40,000, but the United States Attorney’s Office here used an estimate of 100,000 in its formal written agreement with Somali Community leaders to undertake the so-called Building Community Resilience program.

    Thus it was left to Kelly Riddell to provide an account of the Somali community’s high-volume consumption of Minnesota welfare services — in the Washington Times, in 2015. Riddell’s article remains the go-to piece on the subject. I don’t believe the [Minneapolis] Star Tribune has touched it. ....

    The Somali community has required the intense scrutiny of law enforcement for the past 10 years. The Department of Justice acknowledges that since 2006, “overseas terror organizations” have targeted Twin Cities residents to join al Shabaab (an al Qaeda-allied group in Somalia) and ISIS. Over nearly ten years ending in 2015, the FBI’s Operation Rhino targeted al Shabaab recruiting in Minnesota and resulted in the indictment of some 20 individuals.

    Since 2013, according to the Department of Justice, ISIS has targeted “Twin Cities residents” (i.e., Somalis). The Minneapolis division of the FBI and local law enforcement authorities devote substantial resources to deterring and interrupting the recruitment of Minnesota Somalis. ....

    On Friday [August 5] Donald Trump took up the case of the Somali influx (to both Minnesota and Maine) on the campaign trail. The Star Tribune’s Mila Koumpilova rises to the defense of the Somali community in the supposed news article “Trump’s comments about Minnesota Somalis met with outrage, satisfaction.” She notes that Trump cited Riddell’s article. She doesn’t provide a link or the name of the reporter who wrote it, but we can’t be trusted with too much information.

    Trump referred to the security threat raised by the Minnesota’s Somali community. Here Koumpilova wasn’t entirely sure what Trump was talking about: “Trump appeared to be alluding to the recent convictions of nine young Somali-Americans in what the FBI described as a plot to leave the country and join the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant in Syria.” Could be!
     

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/08/trump-touches-minnesotas-untouchables.php

    Replies: @CCZ

    From Mogadishu on the Mississippi River.

    Youth Group Wants $4Million State Cash to Stop Somalis Becoming Extremists

    Minnesota Bringmethenews.com
    January 10, 2015 By Adam Uren

    The Ka Joog youth group wants funding to fight terror recruitment.

    Youth group leaders want millions of dollars in state cash to fund activity programs designed to keep Minnesota’s young Somalis out of the clutches of extremist groups.

    The Associated Press reports that Somali youth group Ka Joog are asking for $4.35 million of state cash spread over two years, which it says would keep at-risk Somali youths in Minnesota’s public school system occupied through arts initiatives, workforce training and after-school programs.

  53. @Mike Sylwester
    The Bible's Leviticus (11:27-28) says that the dead bodies of quadripuds that walk on paws (e.g. canines) are unclean:

    Of the various quadrupeds, all those that walk on paws are unclean for you; everyone who touches their dead bodies shall be unclean until evening, and everyone who picks up their dead bodies shall wash his garments and be unclean until evening.
     
    Five years ago, I began a blog to explain much such reasoning about contamination and purification. (I intend to continue the blog in the future. )

    Paws are covered with a skin that is rather soft, which enables demons to move from the ground up into the animal. Eventually, the demons might move from the pawed animal into a human being.

    This Leviticus passage describes two different events and their different consequences:

    1) If you touch a dead dog, then you will be unclean until evening.

    2) If you pick up a dead dog, then you must wash your clothes, and then you will be unclean until evening.

    The reasoning here starts with the idea that the demons inside a dog are adapted to occupying an animal but not yet adapted to occupying a person. Such demons cannot transition from an animal's interior to a human's interior easily. The demons can accomplish the transition, however, if they first establish an intermediate base on a person's clothing. After they have become acclimatized to occupying on a person's clothing, then they can enter the person himself if an opportunity occurs -- for example, if the man ejaculates. The act of ejaculation opens the man's body momentarily, which is long enough for the demon to move from the clothing into the man.

    When a person merely touches a dead dog, the implied understanding is that the only contact was between the dead dog and the person's skin -- and that there was no contact between the dead dog and the person's clothing. A demon cannot move from the dead dog onto the person's fingers; the demon can move only onto the person's clothing.

    When a person picks up a dead dog, then the implied understanding is that the dead dog touched the person's clothing, and so a demon was able to move from the dead dog onto the clothing, which then might serve as a base that will enable the demon later to move into the person.

    Somehow, the setting of the sun causes the person to become significantly less vulnerable. The person's sweating skin during the daylight's heat caused some vulnerability to entrance by a demon, because sweat is a bodily discharge, somewhat like semen or menstrual blood. After the sun sets, and the person's body stops sweating profusely, then the person's skin becomes a solid wall that demons cannot penetrate.

    So, if a person touches a dead dog with his hands (not with any clothing), then his sweaty hands make him vulnerable until the sun sets and the temperature cools and his hands stop sweating. Any demons that came from the dead dog and that are able to wait nearby for an opportunity to enter the person will have to depart when the sun sets.

    If a demon from a dead dog managed to get onto the person's clothing, then washing the clothing with water moves the demon off of the clothing, and the demon will have to depart when the sun sets.

    Another explanation for the effect of sweat is a water that washes the skin adequately for situations such as a person's skin touching a dead dog. During the daylight's heat, the skin sweats enough to prevent such a demon moving from a dead dog and attaching itself to a person's skin. Since the person's clothing does not sweat, the demon can attach itself to the clothing.

    The important concept I want to communicate here is that in the case of contact with a dead dog, the person's body does not have to be washed with water. Only the person's clothing must be washed with water, if the clothing touched the dead dog.

    http://bronze-serpent-origin-christianity.blogspot.com/2011/07/purification-by-water.html

    Replies: @Mike Sylwester, @Kyle, @Yngvar

    Religious (or ideological) rules have no meaning and need not be explained. They’re just invented to compel conformed behavior among the group members.

  54. Staff meeting at 2 pm today and remember MUZZLES people, this isn’t a zoo but a medical clinic, “we are accredited psychological professionals”.
    Some cool pics
    http://www.ispyanimals.com/2012/02/hyena-men-of-africa.html

    Next week expanding care scope:
    Hyena addiction counseling
    Hyena weight loss
    Hyena bullying clinic

    Followed by a monkey barbecue, bring a side dish

  55. @Johan Schmidt
    @Lurker

    Do I detect a hint of sarcasm? Angela Basset didn't have any trouble exerting authority in Strange Days [1995] (an astonishingly prophetic film, by the way - 20 years ahead of its time).

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Brutusale

    True that, though my girlfriend could beat the crap out of Ralph Fiennes. Great cast, and a script that James Cameron wrote for his ex-wife to direct. Cameron had definitely read some Gibson, Sterling and the other cyberpunks, though the movie most hews to 60s holdover Norman Spinrad’s Little Heroes.

  56. @Dieter Kief
    Beware of Silvester Stallone and the like: Rimbaud, Djinn-eating Hyenas, Dr. Habeb, The Chicago Tribune, iSteve, Goethe and so on (Marcel Proust)

    What I assumed in my former post about Dr. Habeb, that he was - not without reasons - inclined to impress the western experts with the big purse, is pretty much confirmed by the Chicago Tribune article cited above.
    Hyenas are the very kind of shock-treatment westerners long for, and Dr. Habeb successfully applied it. Business as usual between different civilisations - a way to bridge the gap!

    We are prone to shock and awe - this is truly human.
    And by and large one of the many reasons that make Urban Legends so strong.

    Rimbaud was one of the rebels without a cause, - and he had this seventh sense of many artists (Silvester Stallone). He understood very well, that the discomfort in culture (Freud) is a threat - and therefor a perfect artistic subject. That the female Hyenas are stronger than the males was an aspect, that spoke to opium-eater and pothead Rimbaud, since he already felt the dawning of the patriarch - same thing that Marcel Proust's In Search of The Lost Time tackles. But this time definitely from the homosexuals perspective
    .
    By the way: The supersenible Marcel Proust had a cruel side to him as well: He had an obsession with rats, whom he used to torture together with friends. The rats were in a cage and the young lads applied long needles for their pleasure; which consisted of other cruelties as well...

    Goethe outplayed this kind of existential threads: He knew about our longign for the wild and the supernatural (Hyenas eating up djinns...), the terrible and so forth. He even knew about the enormous amount of things we know nothing of. His solution was a) to delve deep into the real world. One exmple is his interest in the theory of evolution (he once donated a few horse sculls to the Jena Univerity to encourage them to start this kind of science (...horse heads are a good starting point for this purpose, he wrote in an acompanying letter). The other cure for our mental needs Goehte proposed, was to deal with our fascination with the darkess on the edge of town, with altered states of mind (Rimbaud) the devil (Rimbaud) and the witches and so forth, with the structural incompleteness of our scientific knowledge, - - all this Goethe turned into Essays, Poems, Novels, Plays - Faust I + II , letters, conversations. He played with these existential threads. - Same as we do, if we create - and listen, and talk and write (!) and phantsize about Hyenas - and other urban legends. That's good, actually. But we have to keep in mind, what literary and folk science tell us about them. Most important point: Beware - urban legends are very attractive - and therefor powerful. Or you may put it the other way round. But still: Beware: - If you meet me, have some courtesy, have some sympathy, and have some taste - - . This will suffice.

    Replies: @Olorin

    Rimbaud, Proust, Goethe–piffle on these effete hothouse boys.

    Further evidence that some genetic pools are NOT meant to live in cities.

    I.e., the agricultural hive regime of the ancient Near East.

    It makes Northerners crazy. It’s supposed to. That’s how the lugal keeps his power via his priests. Threat of starvation or famine on one end, wacky stories about reality on the other. In between, the hive dwellers, lining up at the temple gates for their bowl of grain, wondering Is This All There Is. Applied to the descendants of the Ice Age, it’s hell on earth.

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