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This guy, for example, doesn’t have terrible features, but he looks like he has a very nasty personality.

My vague impression is that Antifa are kind of ugly on average. They seem to have a look about them that suggests their beef with society has less to do with ideology and more to do with how they came out kind of funny-looking.

Or maybe it’s more nurture than nature. Do Antifa do a lot of meth?

Has anybody studied the backgrounds of Antifa? I hear assumptions that they must have grown up upper middle class, but they don’t look like their parents spent a lot on orthodontia and the like.

On Twitter, Richard Stapleton speculated

I’m curious if there’s sort of a hierarchy or soft factions. The middle class Larpers are savvy/cautious enough not to get arrested as often.

Those crooked faced ones always strike me as the wayward kids of the lumpenproles. A lot of abuse fueled rage.

That sounds plausible, but I just don’t know much about who Antifa are. There’s vastly more media attention paid to young rightist extremists’ backgrounds. These more numerous leftist extremists are kind of blank in my memory banks. The media doesn’t like much to talk about them, whereas they obsess over the small number of rightist extremists.

Frey isn’t Antifa, but he’s slightly Antifa-adjacent. He’s kind of the golden boy version — grew up in a nice D.C. suburb and won a track scholarship to William & Mary, then got a shoe company contract to run while he went to law school.

 
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  1. My vague impression is that Antifa are kind of ugly on average. They seem to have a look about them that suggests their beef with society has less to do with ideology and more to do with how they came out kind of funny-looking.

    Maybe they suffer from constipation?

    • Replies: @Ancient Briton
  2. Andy Ngo has been talking about antifa for several years. They aren’t a white organization per say, and maybe in self interest we should stop owning them as white. Having said that, they all appear to have some serious vitamin and mineral deficiencies. Meth usage is a good guess. Given their homicidal rage, I’ll venture a life on psych meds as well. Food is likely optional. However what is with the left eye? Both Jeff Besos and his concubine recently started sporting the left eyed squint, so it is definitely not an income thing. Odd.

    • Replies: @Haole
    , @jon
    , @Thomas
    , @S. Anonyia
  3. Anon[299] • Disclaimer says:

    Their Marxist religion has veganism as their dietary code, have you ever seen a healthy looking vegan?

  4. McFly says:

    I get the impression these are angry middle-class white misfits.

    Saw the profile of a friend of a younger relative on facebook active with Antifa — grew up in an evangelical homeschooling family.

    • Agree: Neoconned
  5. Does Gretchen Whitmer fit the iSteve pattern of an ugly white person?

  6. Is there any actual evidence that “far-right” people or “white supremacists” are involved in these riots?
    Newly appointed Senate Intel Chairman Marco Rubio says, “Terror groups on BOTH far left and right are instigating, committing acts of violence and looting.”

    I regard Marco Rubio as an utterly compromised agent of the Deep State, but I’m open to seeing any evidence he has of this.

    Umbrella Man, who calmly and methodically smashed windows at an Auto Zone, looked a little too professional and well put together to be an Antifa screwball. Perhaps he’s serving some hidden agenda.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2020/05/30/who-is-umbrella-man-mystery-vandal-at-minneapolis-riot-spurs-conspiracies/#4e792ee9236e

  7. All i want to know is what motivated the Slavic tanker driver to blast towards the protestors, then brake and stop.

  8. JimB says:

    My vague impression is that Antifa are kind of ugly on average. They seem to have a look about them that suggests their beef with society has less to do with ideology and more to do with how they came out kind of funny-looking.

    I’ve always argued that Antifa members’ beef with society is predicated on being socially ignored or singled out for toilet swirlies in middle school. There are a lot of fat ugly Hispanic and Asian girls in Antifa. It’s hard being the only 17 year old in your class who is not pregnant because the local cholos think you are doggie din-din.

    • LOL: Tsar Nicholas
    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  9. Weren’t a lot of Bolsheviks pretty ugly. Malformed in some way.

  10. Woke communism is attractive to the unattractive because they think they’ll be on top after the revolution.

    In 100 years, commies have gone from steel quotas to trannies with mental health issues.

    • LOL: fish, lavoisier, Malla
  11. Anonymous[509] • Disclaimer says:

    I find it amusing how Americans are scrambling to blame this on white ANTIFAs, Russian agents, ChiComs, etc, anyone but vicious blacks themselves.

    White Americans do this gun-toting, “tough guy” act yet really they are spineless cowards terrified to admit the reality that this is a racial thing.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  12. Altai_2 says:

    iTunes has been ‘paused’ and replaced with a vague unappeasable political posture message.

    The gauntlet has been laid down. Will Netflix be next?

    • Replies: @Lurker
  13. anon[225] • Disclaimer says:

    That picture is a good reason why there should be legal and free abortion at any stage of pregnancy (and a bit beyond that too). Unwanted pregnancies are a huge burden on society, in more ways than we can think. I am sure his producers abused many chemicals. Or it could be a product of mutation that failed to miscarry.

  14. Subcultures and peripheral political movements (though can Antifa really be considered to be on the fringe at this point?) always attract a large number of damaged people, and sometimes their worst tendencies overtake the entire group.

    • Agree: mark green
  15. anon[440] • Disclaimer says:

    Uglifa.

    • Agree: Thomas
  16. I don’t think what they look like has a whole lot to do with anything. There’s the pretty and the ugly on all sides – this is a matter of the good and the bad.

    Here’s what I’d like to do soon. I’m neither a historian nor sociologist, but I’d like to get some material on the background of the rabble-rousing Communists that lived in Germany during the 1920s and early 1930s. Something tells me the backgrounds of those people a century ago would have some parallels with the backgrounds of these modern Commies.

    These antifa people are pushing for societal destruction in the same manner as those Commies of old. They really need to be dealt with at some point, but without having things end up the same as a century ago.

    • Agree: wren
    • Replies: @RSDB
  17. Gordo says:

    This guy, for example, doesn’t have terrible features, but he looks like he has a very nasty personality.

    My vague impression is that Antifa are kind of ugly on average.

    Didn’t Dutton and Woodley write on this, dysgenic elements surviving now and making up the ugly deranged hard left?

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  18. Altai_2 says:

    The correct way to do #BlackOutTuesday.

  19. OT:

    Very odd story about the CEO of American Airlines who just happens to be a passenger on a Southwest Airlines (?!) flight, when he strikes up a conversation with a black flight attendant about white fragility. They bond over tears and white guilt, and are now besties for life:

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/airline-news/2020/06/01/american-airlines-ceo-southwest-flight-attendant-racism-george-floyd/5310339002/

    The article has a very creepy “just-so” quality to it. It feels too on-the-nose. Maybe it was placed by PR people for the CEO in advance of a merger, to push up his SJW points for post-merger clout…?

    From the article:

    Parker’s take: “I felt wholly inadequate, but I knew it was a special moment. The best I could do was tell her that the book talks about how white people are horrible at talking about racism and that what we need are real conversations. She agreed. I told her I was trying to learn and through tears and a mask, she said, ‘So am I.’”

  20. A123 says:
    @Obamahotep

    All i want to know is what motivated the Slavic tanker driver to blast towards the protestors, then brake and stop.

    This has almost certainly been misreported.

    The tanker driver entered the highway before it was closed. He tried to go through what appeared to be an open path until he came on someone lying on the road and stopped.

    PEACE 😷

  21. Ray P says:

    Dress the pictured man in a kaftan and fur hat and he could have come straight outta Odessa 1880-1922 and have made bombs for Russian revolutionaries.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  22. Cave says:

    “This guy, for example, doesn’t have terrible features,”

    Seen his smile?

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    , @Chrisnonymous
  23. @Obamahotep

    Asleep at the Wheel – on Route 66?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  24. Tetra says:

    I think some of it is a lack of self care afterall communist revolution is way more pressing than say brushing your teeth or showering or exercise. Plus the drug use to offset the despair of living in such an evil society to momentarily forget how evil reigns everywhere all the time.

    • Replies: @Ray P
  25. Altai_2 says:

    Much like how Trump’s election inspired the election of a man who actually is the psychopathic insane reactionary the US media portray Trump to be, there now appears to be street riots between pro and anti Bolsolarno factions inspired by the violence in the US.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  26. Look at a feminist or environmentalist protest and you’ll see the same thing; a sea of ugly, poorly dressed, over/underweight losers.

    The left in general attracts losers, outcasts and misfits. So that nerdy White boy who was bullied as a child grows up to become Antifa. The fat, homely girl that had no friends grows up to become a feminist. I guess they feel “empowered” or whatever, but everyone else sees that ugly face and recognizes the misfit from elementary school who peed his pants in gym class.

    There’s a causal link between ugliness and leftism.

    • Agree: Ris_Eruwaedhiel
  27. Anon[691] • Disclaimer says:

    Another pattern I’ve noticed is that there is an Antifa type who tend to be social science academic manqué types, overeducated, dropped out of grad school, unable to even get an adjunct gig, hanging around a university town working menial jobs long past student age, angry at the world, loser girlfriend who doesn’t care about the lack of prospects.

    • Agree: Ris_Eruwaedhiel
  28. peterike says:

    Antifa is Jewish financed and likely heavily over-represented Jewish at the organizational level (yes, of course they have an organization). At the street level it’s everybody and anybody, but you’ll find Jews there too, of course (Samantha Shader). This is just a modern update on Jewish Bolshevik street hooliganism that characterized the early 20th century in Europe and Russia. Of course back then there were no black, brown and Asians to draw from, but massive poverty made it easy to find white cannon fodder ready to be street fighters.

    Frey isn’t Antifa, but he’s slightly Antifa-adjacent.

    No, he’s a Jewish Antifa-enabler. Call it what it is.

    I really hope that the Feds do what they should and some of these 20-something punks end up on the losing end of a 15-year stint in Federal lockup. Probably most will get away with a wrist slap, though. If DeBlasio’s daughter had to do hard time, I’d dance a jig.

    Also, imagine if we had an FBI and a Justice Department that was actually interested in investigating criminal organizations rather than simply planning sedition all day long. Antifa should have been rolled up years ago, right up to the top level financiers (Soros, Hollywood moguls, Steyer, the Clinton Foundation, you name it). But corruption is everywhere with nobody but Trump to try and stop it.

    • Agree: BenKenobi, Pheasant
    • Replies: @Charlemagne
  29. anonymous[267] • Disclaimer says:

    In a great question of nature vs nurture you need to spend sometime looking further into the field of Orthotropics. Orthotropics is commonly referred to as “Mewing” after its most famous proponents, the English Orthodontics father and son team John and Mike Mew.

    The Orthotropic argument is that each modern generation is become less physically attractive because of bad oral posture brought on by less breast feeding of children, too early weening onto too soft food, bad diet, (mainly too little hard and chewy food, lots of high carbohydrate crap), and modern lifestyles that promote mouth breathing (tv watching, video games, cellphones, bad sleep habits).

    Likewise the Mew’s argue that malocclusions/crooked teeth are caused by primarily bad developmental oral posture.

    The Mews are really interesting people and yes they make a very credible case that children today are not only more obese but also just plain uglier because they lack the parental discipline that instructs them in proper eating and posture habits that result in maximum facial beauty; strong cheek bones, forward developed vs long faces, naturally straight teeth, well formed lips, contoured cheeks

    Mewing has gained a big following on the 4chan sector of what remains of the alt-right.

    That the both spoiled and neglected children of the lefty parents would grow up to be ugly Antifa would not be a surprise to either of the Mews.

    Take the time to look up mewing or orthotropics on youtube. There lots of interesting lectures and how to videos.

    • Agree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Thanks: Desiderius
  30. Chriscom says:

    As Old Grumpy says, Andy Ngo has been all over this. But I want to emphasize that for visuals, the Portland Antifa freaks whose mugshots he regularly posts look almost like another species–an ugly, demented, drugged-out species. Alternately I noticed a bunch of the more recent mugshots he posted–and I don’t know offhand if they were all or even most from Portland–show somewhat more normal people, who I take to be new enthusiasts. I’ll see if I can find a lineup.

    • Replies: @Jay Fink
    , @cynthia curran
  31. @JimB

    I’ve actually known antifa. In my experience, the men are often your typical criminal dead enders(white hispanic in one case) with mental issues including genuine retardation – a prize catch for them would be a physically large, mentally childish boyman. The girls are typically white or overwhelmingly white mixes, usually from broken families or runaways; there’s a weird harem/sex orgy setup at times. Often underage.

    Its very much a dark hippie setup tbh, but with mysterious benefactors. For its participants, it is an often exciting life filled with a sense of “justice” and larger than life characters with easy drug access.

    In a way, it is innately “Western” with its ideals of “rebellion” and “freedom.” Nobody asks many questions about the mystery benefactors.

  32. anonymous[751] • Disclaimer says:

    In grad school I had a good looking, charismatic friend who was antifa before we knew that word in America. He was a black bloc anarchist.

    It was definitely a good shtick for him. He cleaned up in those circles. Getting arrested and stuff made him seem very cool to 19 year old undergrads and in fact a lot of the other guys were way less cool than him. He was friends with punk bands and they held shows at his house.

    His wife was also an activist and gorgeous. I remember going to a party at his house one time and asking her how it was going. She just rolled her eyes and said, “Tom is doing his whole Tom thing.” as he held court. She asked me if I wanted to leave with her and go to a bar. I doubt Tom noticed we were gone for an hour.

    If you are not a total loser there are trillion dollar social capital bills to be picked up on the streets of activism. Tom was a poor grad student who dressed like a militant hobo and he was a rock star.

    This incentive is not a good thing.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  33. J.Ross says:

    A lot of the worst ones are literally heroin addicts (or addicts of other drugs) in a gang atmosphere. Huge sexual element, which is normal in leftist organizations: cf the AmRen story about the halfway house that tried to force a woman to leave and defame her boyfriend. This (and the “Right Wing Safety Squads” seem with the Ghost Ship disaster) are mediocre people running away from adulthood. In earlier conflicts it was observed that there were these “queens” who gave sexual favors and led the fighting, protected by their drones.
    ————-
    Are antifa staging pallets of bricks around cities for rioters to use? It’s clear that bricks and “medium sized rocks” are a major element of these riots. Staging bricks would not be very hard. There are construction sites, and it’s springtime so hardware stores have their outdoor displays of garden pavers. Steal a forklift, carry the already-outdoor bricks, then celebrate with (I imagine) marihuana and Moloch worship afterwards. Not complicated. Furthermore we know antifa has been stealing and successfully operating much heavier equipment because there is the nighttime destruction of a Confederate Soldiers and Sailors monument with a crane.
    These links are deliberately broken to avoid posting awkwardness, go to censortube and paste in the alphanumeric names to see videos from multiple locations of what appear to be organized brick distribution efforts.

    /watch?v=N3Qkxcd6-Tc

    /watch?v=bmapDcO7pMU

    /watch?v=-4MDSx04rEY

    /watch?v=GwcT8N8kpDg

    /watch?v=afOTRAv7xZY

    /watch?v=aewbut4v0F4

    /watch?v=Lkeb-rDwtgw

    • Replies: @anon
  34. Gordo says:

    Nobody asks many questions about the mystery benefactors.

    The dog that didn’t bark in the night?

  35. Chriscom says:

    So like this. Fourth guy is still functional I’d say

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1263778524445372416/photo/1

    #PortlandMugshots is the hashtag to search on Twitter.

    • LOL: Kronos
  36. I have no links, but I’ve heard the case that we’re starting to birth some serious mutants these days (was probably here at Unz) Too many children that previously wouldn’t have made it past infancy – 5 years old. They’ve been breeding for, what, 5 generations now? And we sure as Hell aren’t getting X-Men out of it.

    Also, there’s a Brit in Dissident circles that argues that only about 10% of most of the male animals (mammals mainly I think) get a chance to pass on their genes. This used to be true of humans, to some extent.

    We are Facing the Things That Should Not Be.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  37. I’ve commented until blue in the fingers that leftists are freaks.

    A freak can have several underlying causes of its freakery. He could be funny looking, could be fat, could be retarded, could be a sexual deviant (buggerer, fag or dyke, pedo, chubby chaser, onanist, oil driller, dog raper, etc) could be so completely (((neurotic))) that his personality is toxic. I haven’t met a leftist who do didn’t fall into at least one of these categories. Many are spoiled, lazy, and self-entitled using their freakish nature as an excuse for why government (ie you) should support them.

    Because they’re freaks, and thus disfavored by natural law, they rage and rail against all normalcy, decency, and common sense understanding of nature & reality.

    Nature used to ruthlessly cull the freaks from our ranks. Stroll through an old cemetery and note the multitudes of the weak who never reached adulthood. Today however, it’s becoming clear that the multitudes of freaks have survived and now govern us. Because reality is so hostile and offensive to the freak, he completely inverts it and we see the resulting insanity daily where government and media operate in a mirror image freak world. How else can one explain things like MI Gov Whitless forcing nursing homes to take flu patients? Or painting lifelong violent career criminals as helpless victims?

  38. @Inquiring Mind

    Does Gretchen Whitmer fit the iSteve pattern of an ugly white person?

    Didn’t Gretchen Whitmer win the 1976 Olympic Decathlon?

  39. @Daniel Chieh

    Should add: the ugliness is often part and parcel of said mental illness plus freeflow drug abuse.

    • Replies: @jimmyriddle
    , @songbird
  40. Thoughts says:

    He looks Half-Asian.

    Hapa Male Rage.

  41. Antifa are, I think, stoned anarchists without guts.

    They are not Marxists.

    They are not followers of classical anarchism (Max Stirner, Bakunin, Kropotkin,..).

    They are mostly druggies, loners, psychotic individuals without family. They’re courageous when in packs, but cowardly when they’re on their own (unlike historical anarchists, who were a real deal – see about them in Dostoevsky’s “The Devils”, Conrad’s “The Secret Agent” or Malraux’s “Man’s Fate”).

    • Disagree: Pheasant
  42. I would bet that a lot of them are half-homeless and starving.

    Basically couch surfing middle class Whites with little chance of a girlfriend and no real plan for a career. Nothing to lose.

    The far left has always drawn recruits from angry malcontents.

    Basically White losers that don’t really care if Marxism or Anarchism makes sense and really just want to smash society.

  43. Anonymous[509] • Disclaimer says:

    The US is turning into a race mixed dystopia like Brazil, these multi-ethnic riots are indicative that this process is well advanced.

    Whites are probably now under 50% of the US population and many are beginning to identify with and even assume an identity as “people of color”, just as the white minority in Brazil usually identify as non-white.

  44. Lugash says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Umbrella Man, who calmly and methodically smashed windows at an Auto Zone, looked a little too professional and well put together to be an Antifa screwball. Perhaps he’s serving some hidden agenda.

    Umbrella Man was a ‘breacher’. He’ll be completely covered up, has the appropriate tool to break the window quickly, and once he breaks the window he calmly walks away while the crowd swarms past him. If you watch other Antifa videos you see the same thing. You also don’t see him before or after the incident. My guess is that it’s a specialist position for Antifa… this guy is probably out of the state now and lying low.

    The umbrella is new. Maybe it prevents aerial identification?

    That said, the seems to have a cop stare.

  45. Hemid says:

    Crazy people are usually goofy-looking.

    The riot fodder are the MacNamara’s Morons of the group, addict bum and whore recruits. A defective few of the professional-class core are suited to hanging out with—being management’s “face” with—the street crazies. They’re the occasional mugshot we see of a wild- or evil-eyed professor, lawyer, politician’s daughter, etc. They think they’re higher in the organization than they really are, so they never rat it out.

    It’s a strong system.

  46. Gongtao says:

    In my youth I was left/anarchist, went to a lot of demonstrations and a few riots (Rodney King, start of Gulf War 1) in San Francisco. My impression at the time was that most of the real troublemakers were from the bottom of (white) society, runaways, maybe from violent/broken/drug-abusing homes, would end up in prison at some point. Much more interested in antagonizing the police and burning things than they were in any political ideals. Their rage at society was intimately related to their miserable lives.

    The growth of Antifa has drawn in some people from more functional backgrounds, like the lawyers who tried to burn the police car in New York.

  47. t says:

  48. The pantyfags in Portlandia are hard to judge what with their bediapered faces. The grrls are cursed with lumpy or skinny curveless figures – I saw literally one attractive girl during these peaceful riots last night.

    Only when arrested and undiapered can we judge their beauty or lack thereover because Sailer says Masks Are Good Mkay, where a few months back Sailer said Masks Are Bad Mkay.

    Sailer: the Mr. Mackey of facediapers.

    #mkay

  49. Anonymous[324] • Disclaimer says:

    They should be called Antifacts.

  50. Barnard says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Rubio has no evidence. A Minnesota state representative called the fuel truck driver who was attacked by the mob on I-35 a white supremacist who had a Confederate flag decal on his truck. From his name it was obvious he was an Eastern European immigrant and the state was completely in the wrong to even arrest him as he was already on the freeway when they closed it to allow protesters to march. They don’t even care if their lies are believable anymore. It is like the Soviet system the more ridiculous the lie, the worse the punishment is for refusing to believe it.

    • Replies: @Jane Plain
  51. JimB says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    The girls are typically white or overwhelmingly white mixes, usually from broken families or runaways; there’s a weird harem/sex orgy setup at times. Often underage.

    Sounds like a postmodern Mason family.

    • Replies: @jackson
  52. Altai_2 says:
    @Lugash

    The way he interacted with the black protestors seemed very odd and suspicious. Granted he seems to be going through much effort as possible to conceal his ID so didn’t want his voice recorded but still, odd. But then you’d expect that sort of action and role in a PD to be conducted by more veteran personnel, this guy looked to be in his late 20s if that. Though he had a build you’d expect from a young police officer. And then, maybe an older guy would look too out of place.

    But then why the umbrella? If he is police, who is he hiding from? The umbrella only makes him more conspicuous to the protestors. His whole outfit made him look suspect. He reminded me of these guys.

    But then former policemen associations are there, maybe they put him up to it?

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    , @Glt
  53. @Daniel Chieh

    It is similar to the ginger convert jihadi phenomenon.

  54. anonymous[328] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    have you ever seen a healthy looking vegan?

    There are lots – ultramarathon people, WholeFoods MILFs, Bree Oleson (look her up, NSFW), Mike Tyson (physique not face, obviously), and on and on.

    Antifa and assorted hangers on may or may not be vegans, but their appearance is because they are misfits who voluntarily live in hovels and do drugs. The kind of drugs that involve repeatedly sticking needles in the body and smoking things that smell like melted plastic.

  55. UK says:

    I am almost totally blank on antifa types. I have no concept of who they are, what they want or anything that would allow me to properly perceive them. Half of the time I am left feeling that they don’t even exist. Like the purposefully ugly extras in low budget films that you’re not really supposed to notice. Anyone remember any of them?

    I need to get to the US and see all of this for myself. It is a shame that the global situation precludes this.

    • Replies: @Lot
  56. North Carolina antifa professor and his family –

    https://images.app.goo.gl/vX3TrbmSWmF66ajn7

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
  57. @Anon

    “Their Marxist religion has veganism as their dietary code, have you ever seen a healthy looking vegan?”

    Excellent point. Vegans get insufficient and incomplete proteins, making the men surly and the womyn bitchy. One year ago in Portland I saw groups of pantyfags hovering on the periphery of a Right To Life gathering of some sort. They were all skinny young white guys dressed in black and sporting black facediapers – obviously before I invented the term and before Sailer embraced the diaper. They were always in groups, never alone. They glared and looked perpetually butthurt.

    • Replies: @Stealth
    , @Anonymous
  58. ‘…Those crooked faced ones always strike me as the wayward kids of the lumpenproles. A lot of abuse fueled rage…’

    From what I know, I would guess not.

    I live in a former provincial center in logging country. Well, it’s still a provincial center, but the logging jobs are mostly gone.

    So…lots of lumpenproles. I like this place, but let’s face facts. Lots ‘n lots of lumpenproles. You want lumpenproles? We got lumpenproles.

    But this crap has gained exactly zero traction around here. There actually was a ‘protest’…but the signs were all about ‘loving each other’ and American flags.

    Not the idea at all. Obviously, some church congregation got all excited.

  59. @Obamahotep

    “All i want to know is what motivated the Slavic tanker driver to blast towards the protestors, then brake and stop.”

    He stopped because a peaceful rioter would not get out of his way. The rioter staged a gentle fall backwards at the last second, but the driver did not know this – watch the video again and focus on the right front nose of the semi. Fleeing the scene would get the driver more time in prison than accidentally killing someone, mens rea and etc. Hindsight 20/20, he shoulda kept on truckin’.

  60. @Obamahotep

    Coming to Battlefield America 2020: New Truck Accessory.

    • Replies: @Ray P
    , @ThreeCranes
  61. BB753 says:

    Quite simple: SJWs and antifas are spiteful mutants.

    • Thanks: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @TelfoedJohn
  62. ‘… Frey isn’t Antifa, but he’s slightly Antifa-adjacent. He’s kind of the golden boy version — grew up in a nice D.C. suburb and won a track scholarship to William & Mary, then got a shoe company contract to run while he went to law school.’

    He’s also Jewish.

    What percentage of ‘antifas’ are Jews? After all, Jews were grossly overrepresented among the fans of violent revolution back when the Soviet Union was fashionable.

    So here’s a movement advocating violent revolution again. How heavily represented are Jews?

    I don’t align with the hard-core anti-semites around here — but this does strike me as a valid question.

    If I was going to speculate, I’d guess that ‘antifa’ draws very heavily on Jewish kids who couldn’t or wouldn’t get into an elite college. After all, even with an average IQ of 109, somebody’s got to be on the left side of the curve.

    • Replies: @Jane Plain
  63. 128 says:

    How many of you people sleep with supermodels every day? With all due respect, considering how John Derbyshire and Fred Reed, or Karlin looks like, you people should be the last people on this earth to go after someone’s looks.

  64. JimDandy says:

    A coalition of strained-through-a-rubber-looking Garbage Pail Kids in various stages of gender transition/hair color and drugged out “punk” types, along with trustfunded Patty Hearsts and bugeyed Assistant Professors. There’s money being funneled in their from somewhere.

  65. @Obamahotep

    As a former truck driver, I explain it here.

    tl;dr: He was already on the road when the illegal rioters swarmed the Interstate. From his road-level perspective the unprecedented crowd on the road was not obvious. He slowed as fast as his rig could. He was beaten and arrested. None of the illegal rioter were. He may not speak much English. Amerika, what a country!

    Lord protect Reginaldov Dennivich.

    • Agree: danand
  66. 128 says:

    Shooting up the antifa is legal, but will inflame the situation, just like how the Syrian army shooting up protesters inflamed the situation, are you people sure you can handle that blowback?

    • Agree: Kyle
    • Replies: @BenKenobi
  67. @Daniel Chieh

    “mysterious benefactors”

    Seek, and you will find. Mysteries will be unveiled.

    From a previous Antifa-Deep State action:

    View post on imgur.com

    Some notes for your journey:

    Friends Of Democracy = George Soros’s son’s PAC
    328BG = cheap burner phone
    D A Donnelly = Treasurer of Friends Of Democracy
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-sacking-of-fifth-avenue/#comment-3936547

  68. Zoodles says:

    If you dig enough, youll find out a shockingly large percentage of them are pedos and sex pests.

  69. Anon[226] • Disclaimer says:

    Any organization have serious estimates of how many antifa have been active in the past week? Perhaps 20 cities with an average of a few hundred per town?

    Is it greater than 10 thousand nationally?

    Will antifa attempt to intimidate voters November 4th? Have the feds planned for this?

    Idea: Spray looters with dyed water. That way they are “tagged” for other police to arrest. Also, the stinky fragrance used in natural gas could be added to the dyed water. It would be a dead giveaway for an arrest once they were alone.

    Personally I think drone footage and recordings could be very useful. The FBI could also chase down the facebook “free bricks here” ads some are putting up to let rioters know where caches of bricks are.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    , @Crawfurdmuir
  70. Anonymous[200] • Disclaimer says:

    This piece is hilarious. I think Steve is on to something.

    My image of antifa from seeing all those protest videos from Portland, OR is that both the male and female antifa tend to be fat, ugly, slovenly, covered to the neck in tattoos and have lots of facial piercings, like all those people who work in the “creative” industry or restaurant industry, which is probably where most of them work. Though we’ve heard of Google employees or Berkeley professors involved in antifa protests, I suspect they again work in “creative” jobs in tech like graphic/UI design, or teach libart subjects in college.

    It’s one reason why I stopped going to restaurants after Trump was elected. I suddenly realized those tattooed chefs and waiters look too much like antifa protesters. Add to that their extensive use of illegal immigrant labor, their socialistic 20% mandatory service charge, mostly overpriced and poorly cooked food, I just no longer feel like supporting them. This pandemic is probably putting many of them out of work, that’s why they are out rioting and looting, all the more reason to not go to restaurants and bars anymore even after they reopen.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  71. anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    If you closely examine his face, he looks like he’s suffering from some kind of inflammation.

    Note the left side seems “normal,” while the right side looks slightly bloated, creating the asymmetrical effect. Almost like the skulls of two different people were split, and one half of one skull was stitched onto the other skull.

    If the outside of his skull is displaying inflammation, which could be due to extrinsic factors, or worse, genetic anomalies, what could be going on with his brain? Probably not anything good.

    Aside from that, I have a theory about angry ugly people. Imagine looking in the mirror every morning, and your ugly face, and all that an ugly face represents, is staring back at you. Every social act you engage in is problematic, because you routinely repulse people outright, or you find yourself steeped in their pity, before you can even say a word. You make people feel bad. As a baby, nobody wants to hold you. Nobody cares if you win a spelling bee. Nobody cares if you go to the prom or not.

    The opposite end of the spectrum would be a supermodel. Everyone deferring to you, everyone seeking your favor. Either way, society’s abnormal behavior towards you has got to work on you psychologically, after awhile, and the resulting behavior on either side won’t be too pretty.

    When you’re a minority, or female, people will come to your aid. When you’re ugly… you’re on your own.

    This concludes with what I call “the Richard III Complex.”

    If you’re ugly, you can’t be good. If you can’t be good, then why not be bad, as they treat you? Horribly bad. Frighteningly bad. Historically bad. Beautiful women wear pushup bras. Ugly people join Antifa: the league of hunchback superheroes.

    In Antifa, nobody can hear you look in the mirror and scream.

  72. @Harry Baldwin

    Is there any actual evidence that “far-right” people or “white supremacists” are involved in these riots? Newly appointed Senate Intel Chairman Marco Rubio says, “Terror groups on BOTH far left and right are instigating, committing acts of violence and looting.”

    .
    Of course not, this is a blatant American Bolshevik State narrative/reflex. The State religion is that Whites are the source of all problems, and this is the filter through which all phenomena are rationalised.

  73. benjaminl says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    That sounds somewhat like the image of the Manson Family as portrayed in Helter Skelter and in Tarantino’s movie. Perhaps more downscale.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  74. Tiny Duck says:

    Uh you guys know most white women support the BLM movement and the protests?

    Game over.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @JimDandy
  75. Anonymous[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Some weird looking, anorexic, cockatoo haired woman defecated – in full public view – right on top of a trashed police car, in one particular instance of Floyd related unrest.
    The crowd roared with delight and egged her on with ecstatic cheering and whooping.

    Just about says it all about the ‘character’ of Antifa.

  76. JerryC says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Fascinating. Very bureaucratic.

  77. benjaminl says:

    It’s not just antifa — there’s a whole class of youth celebrities who seem to look aggressively and intentionally ugly: hideous ‘grilles’ on their teeth, awful facial tattoos, horrible complexions from never going outside — just an overall look of ill health.

    I’m thinking of Tekashi Six Nine, Billie Eilish and Post Malone, but I’m sure there are better examples.

    The whole look just screams: poor nutrition and poor exercise habits.

    How does this make sense in an Evo psych way?

  78. Jacob Frey moved to Minnesota in 2009 and now he’s the mayor of Minneapolis.

    These cities deserve every bit of what they’re getting. Good and hard.

  79. Mr. Anon says:
    @Inquiring Mind

    Does Gretchen Whitmer fit the iSteve pattern of an ugly white person?

    In a lot of her pictures she looks like a wax-works figure. I don’t know if it’s her makeup or the lighting.

    • Replies: @David Davenport
  80. @benjaminl

    If you remember the “right wing safety squads” awhile ago, that was antifa home bases being popped.

  81. I think leftists in general are ugly. When I was in college (first half of 80’s), the leftist organizations at the time were comprised of those we used to call the “granola” look. They were not physically attractive like the frat guys and sorority girls. It seem the same today. Whenever you see leftist protesters getting arrested in the news, they never look like the extras in, say, a 1980’s Schwarzenegger movie. There is a reason for this. Making oneself attractive, especially the part about working out and getting into shape, takes effort and commitment. Its the pursuit of a relatively long term goal. Putting forth the effort and commitment to improve oneself and one’s life is an inherently “conservative” act. Thus leftists don’t do these things.

    • Agree: Bert, Malla
    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  82. I dunno, Sailer. One of them looked like she could’ve been your daughter if you had a daughter. But, seriously, aren’t these kids mostly skinny hipsters who lack all sense of style other than skinny pants?

  83. BTW, the 60’s hippies and protesters were remarkably ugly as well. My favorite Reagan story features them. Ronnie and Nancy were being driving around in the governor’s limo during one of the Berkeley protests (while he was CA governor). When he saw young people bearing signs declaring ‘Make Love, Not War”, Ronnie remarked to Nancy “Most of them look like they couldn’t do either.”.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
  84. @Anon

    Vegans usually die prematurely as a result of malnutrition. Before they die, however, they frequently look and smell like hell.

    • Replies: @hhsiii
  85. donut says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Mary Poppins wayward son ?

  86. Thea says:

    Anecdotally only but the few I know personally are all homosexuals from lower middle class homes looking for meaning and somewhere to fit in and “shine.”

  87. @benjaminl

    I’m thinking of Tekashi Six Nine, Billie Eilish and Post Malone

    And that fat flute-playing rapper. I can’t be bothered to look up her name.

    • Replies: @Muggles
  88. Guess what cocksuckers.

    The police had Floyd safely contained in a cop car, but he wouldn’t stop mouthing off, so they decided to ‘teach him some respect’ with a little torture on the road.

    He was in the back of the cop car, secured, where you can’t get out, and they took him out. To let me spell it out, m-u-r-d-e-r him.

  89. wren says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    This pair of mousy little antifa look like they came straight out of a study session at the college library to spray paint on their local starbucks, but then get called out by a conscientious black lady.

    The cute little pink back pack complements her chic black antifa outfit. I can imagine this pair taking a lot of selfies on this day.

  90. Anonymous[413] • Disclaimer says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Interesting.

    Looking back on it I now think my Jewish ex-gf was antifa. She knew a lot about the WTO protests back in the day, and would take time off college to be involved. She didn’t tell me much about it. It wouldn’t surprise me if she was involved with organizing them somehow.

    She had an incredible figure but looked Jewish in the face, but not unattractive. She was bisexual as well, and involved in LGBT back when it was just 4 letters. Not faithful. She hated the idea of bringing a child into such a horrible world. I don’t think she has married or had kids to this day. I look back on it and think – sweetheart, what were you worrying about, you had it made and the world was the Jewish oyster!

    She hated gun ownership of regular (white) people, she knew all about the Matthew Shephard and James Byrd cases at the time. Was big into hate crime legislation, which I instinctually didn’t like the idea of.

    Addictive personality but just smoking and drinking, no hard drugs AFAIK.

    She had claimed to have done sniper training and knew how to bug a room, e.g. by powering the bug with a string of D cell batteries bored into the top of a door. Was into the hacking magazine 2600 and freeing Kevin Mitnick. At the time I thought she had made it all up just to sound cool. In hindsight it’s far too legit to be made up, quite possibly Mossad training or something like it. I didn’t believe in conspiracy theories either at the time. I was a fairly standard issue colorblind libertarian. If I knew then what I know now I could have had some great convos but maybe I found out more information by frustratingly not believing anything she said! I was such a normie, lol. No doubt she was trying to impress me, none are so blind as those who cannot see.

    As far as antifa goes, she wouldn’t have been in the useful idiot category. Maybe in terms of facial attractiveness, not being a 10 with the body of a 10 made her able to get sex but not marriage-level commitment with a 9 or 10 which would have been frustrating. Her infidelity and addictions would have been marriage kiboshers too. And her politics. Maybe a Jewish man would have liked it. Maybe.

    She would have married me at one point if I had asked (pointed out a wedding dress store and dropped hints). But I think the political activism would have been there anyway.

    • Thanks: Pheasant
    • LOL: Kent Nationalist
    • Replies: @Bert
  91. J1234 says:

    Frey isn’t Antifa, but he’s slightly Antifa-adjacent.

    Possibly more than slightly. Immediately after the video went viral, the mayor said that Floyd’s death was a “death sentence” imposed on him by the police because he was black. That’s not even remotely true, literally or figuratively. I’m guessing the mayor’s statement – and his immediate call for the arrest of Derek Chauvin for murder (despite a preliminary medical examiner’s report that cast serious doubt on Chauvin being the cause of Floyd’s death) – were intended to signal to antifa/blm that the city of Minneapolis was on their side, so please don’t riot. The result was the opposite. In the rioters’ minds, he was validating a violent response.

    Now the final report from Hennepin County’s medical examiner has been released, and it’s somewhat vague or even slightly cryptic. It seems to me it’s trying be consistent with the earlier report while not contradicting the mayor’s desire to have a ready made villain (that’s not him.) From CNN:

    ….the medical examiner’s office, in its report also released Monday, said that the cause of death is “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression.” Cardiopulmonary arrest means Floyd’s heart failed.The medical examiner made no mention of asphyxiation.

  92. @benjaminl

    In Eilish’s case,mudsharking would also be a factor.Every photo on her Instagram is of her wallowing with thugs.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
  93. LondonBob says:
    @Lugash

    Umbrella signals to the others, probably to rally the others to that location.

    They sure are ugly the antifa people, inside and outside.

    • Replies: @Lugash
  94. S says:

    Are the Antifa types ugly? Orwell certainly thought so in his post revolution/purge novel, aka 1984.

    He [Winston] looked round the canteen again. Nearly everyone was ugly, and would still have been ugly even if dressed otherwise than in the uniform blue overalls. On the far side of the room, sitting at a table alone, a small, curiously beetle-like man was drinking a cup of coffee, his little eyes darting suspicious glances from side to side. How easy it was, thought Winston, if you did not look about you, to believe that the physical type set up by the Party as an ideal-tall muscular youths and deep-bosomed maidens, blond-haired, vital, sunburnt, carefree — existed and even predominated. Actually, so far as he could judge, the majority of people in Airstrip One were small, dark, and ill-favoured.

    http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/4.html

    • Replies: @AKAHorace
  95. Thursday says:

    Antifa tend not to be great at grooming or hygeine, so it’s tougher to judge their baseline looks.

  96. I can remember Chateau Heartiste commenting on the pics of antifa protesters he posted as having a ‘low sexual market value”. I think most of these losers are on the left side of life’s bell curve in one way or the other and have a chip on their shoulders.

  97. Art Deco says:

    The antifa-adjacent character in my family is the youngest of three children of a handsomely paid technician. Some of his aunts and uncles had higher education (as did at least three of his grandparents), but his mother and father did not and were skeptical of it. His mother ran a pentacostalist shop to which he father did not quite sign on and his sisters and their husbands remain committed evangelicals. He had terrible peer problems as a youngster to which his mother’s response was episodes of homeschooling and his father’s response was offhand. From age 12 to age 18 he was quite impossible and remained a problem for the larger world for seven years after he left his parents’ home (though no prison spells). Over the last dozen years, he’s picked up a couple of degrees, had several teaching jobs, and now has some supervisory job that he dislikes. Several of his female relatives dote on him and the rest of his family tolerate him. He has a pleasant daughter and a fiancee notably younger than he is (who had other options, without a doubt). He’s approaching middle age and remains (at least when he’s contemplating the world outside his immediate household) astonishingly angry (opinionated and doesn’t know what he doesn’t know). I think most women would call him moderately handsome if he were properly groomed (indifferent haircut, shizzy facial hair). His tats are ordinarily obscured under his clothing. I doubt he gets much exercise, and he isn’t healthy. His weight is kept down by a mix of heredity and cigarettes. I think he’d like to be out there smashing windows, but he’s got a job and three women on his books.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
  98. Anonymous[413] • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Jesus that is well organized. They don’t call them collectivists for nothing. Screw atomism.

    Note the pentagram star in Friends of Democracy.

  99. Lot says:

    Berkeley antifa mugshots:

    The old guy and a couple of the women are low side of average, the rest are plain ugly.

    Bigger group. Maybe the man and woman on the lower left would be above average if cleaned up, the rest are again ugly to 4 or 5/10 at best.

    • Replies: @botazefa
    , @donut
  100. This guy, for example, doesn’t have terrible features, but he looks like he has a very nasty personality.

    Did i miss just flat out miss some sort of sly tongue in cheek thing going on?

    This is what routine ugly looks like–messed up eyes, some asymmetry, bad skin and overall poor facial proportions (face needs to be longer and broader at the bottom to match the top). I.e. most is substandard and one or two things are just “wrong”.

    I’ll grant you he doesn’t look like a gargoyle and doesn’t appear to be fat–the 21st century American way to turn normal into hideous–but he’s ugly.

    • Replies: @Lot
  101. I’ve been acquainted with this circle off and on for a while. Interestingly, the first place I encountered it as a specific leftist set was in Minneapolis over 25 years ago. Minneapolis has been a leftist center for a long, long time since the IWW days.

    A lot of them over the years have seemed to hail from the Midwest. People go on about NYC and San Francisco, but the “street left” has always in my mind to be very much a thing of that region.

    I’m astounded that I’ve seen literally no mention of the Weather Underground. Indeed, the Flint War Council was a watershed in American leftism.

    I agree that a lot of Antifa’s membership seems to fit a downscale from middle class background, particularly compared to privileged WU crowd.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  102. S says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    I’d heard about the cop/agent provacateur accusation, but not seen the video with the bizarre umbrella.

    Whatever the guys actual provenance, gotta wonder if in part the umbrella was deliberately used to make a psychological connection for any observers with the Kennedy assassination and conspiracy, a wavelength a lot of Antifa types are already very much attuned to.

  103. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    My impression is that the Antifa thugs are dead-enders out of the gig economy with no real career prospects. They get hired and indoctrinated. They’re the ones who do the dirty work on behalf of anyone who’ll provide money and excitement just as most dictatorships have crews of head-breakers at their disposal. Marginal people, many from single parent, drug affected families of which, by the way, there’s millions of in this country so scoping out and recruiting some from this class is probably quite feasible.

    • Replies: @Achilles Wannabe
  104. @benjaminl

    In Eilish’s case,m u d s h a r k i n g would also be a factor.

  105. Anon[324] • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri

    holy shit. This is real?

  106. Anon[368] • Disclaimer says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    It’s been documented. We don’t need to know what the documents are, just that it has been documented. As long as there are documents somewhere, we should be alright.

  107. Forbes says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Some highlights in the hair and he/she/it could be Bruce…

  108. Jake says:

    Have you ever looked at close ups of the faces of the Old Bolsheviks? You can see evil smirking at you as they all refuse to smile. Most would not have been considered ugly, but at some point in their lives 0f Revolution, their faces began to conform to their hearts and minds.

    Dostoevsky felt that the Demons in Nihilists could be visible in some inexplicable way in their faces.

    • Replies: @Rapparee
  109. @Almost Missouri

    I was just thinking, if Trump really wants to make progress, he needs to RICO the Soros family.

    They are the sponsors of Antifa violence. Grab their cars, homes, yachts along with their bank and brokerage accounts.

    Minoritarian destruction of Western civilization is heavily funded by Jews. But most of the propaganda and lying is just that–propaganda and lying. But Soros–and probably some others–fund this direct street violence, a crime. It is organized crime. RICO their ass.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  110. Lot says:
    @AnotherDad

    But his winning smile!

  111. t says:

    Black Chicagoans Being Harassed In Some Latino Neighborhoods, Officials Say: ‘We Are In This Struggle Together’

    https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/06/02/black-chicagoans-being-harassed-in-latino-neighborhoods-officials-say-we-are-in-this-struggle-together/

    It turns out the cops treat blacks better than hispanic gangs.

  112. songbird says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Over 80% of genes are expressed in the brain, so there’s bound to be a little crossover to looks, even without drugs.

    I’d like to see what a computerized average face of antifa looks like. Whether, as I suspect, the females are more masculine-looking than average. I also wonder if any physiogmy data is built into facial recognition programs that monitor crowds.

  113. Antifa members have that subtle look of subhumanity about them. You know, the look of “useful idiots who will be shot in the back of the head and dumped into a long ditch after accomplishing their objective and thus outliving their usefulness.”

    I’m curious whether they realize that they have no future, personally, in the “new world” they hope to bring about. Their primary hatred seems to be race based and their goal is to destroy that race, yet they themselves are of the targeted race. Are they kamikazes then, or have they somehow convinced themselves that they will be bestowed honorary status by the victorious POC for services rendered to the cause? I hope it’s the latter, because if they’re kamikazes there won’t be as much scope for schadenfreude if or when Antifa’s benefactors direct the POC to carry out some residual vermin extermination.

  114. Frey isn’t Antifa, but he’s slightly Antifa-adjacent. He’s kind of the golden boy version — grew up in a nice D.C. suburb and won a track scholarship to William & Mary, then got a shoe company contract to run while he went to law school.

    Paul Wellstone and Jacob Frey– Jewish public school athletes, with goofy hair and smiles, from DC’s southern suburbs– the other Army of Northern Virginia– who headed northwest to Minnesota. But Wellstone was a wannabe prairie populist; Frey is a modern ward heeler of minorities and smug yuppies.

    The old DFL is freying fraying. Frey = Democrat, Wellstone = Farmer-Labor.

  115. Amigo says:

    I expected a lot more ugly photos.

  116. Jake says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    The first detailed account I read of an Antifa soldier, one who had done a good deal of physical attacking of whites who were perceived to be ‘right wing.’: he was in his early 20s; he had a GED; his father had not been in his life since he was 8 or 9; his mother had been a doper his entire life, stoned daily on marijuana rather than on heroin; his mother had occasionally prostituted herself; his mother had a string of men, including alcoholics and junkies; he had no religious affiliation or instruction at any point in his life; he had a half sister about 12 years old – she was half black, the black father a former convict no longer around; he found meaningful identity in assaulting whites to ‘fight racism’ because he felt he was helping his sister see a better world.

    He, of course, would not exist as he did then save for rich backers of Antifa.

  117. Dumbo says:

    Besides their general aspect (genetic?) and unhealthy habits (i.e. vegan diet combined with alcohol and drugs, a terrible mix), their clothes and grooming tend to be appalling (a mix of punk and whigger aesthetics), plus tattoos and piercings, therefore they look awful indeed. The women in particular are very ugly or uglified, and likely full of STDs. Avoid.

  118. @Almost Missouri

    tl;dr: He was already on the road when the illegal rioters swarmed the Interstate. From his road-level perspective the unprecedented crowd on the road was not obvious. He slowed as fast as his rig could. He was beaten and arrested. None of the illegal rioter were. He may not speak much English. Amerika, what a country!

    Agreed.

    And you can tell because he’s humane enough and dumb enough to stop–and then gets pulled out and beaten for his trouble. The media again *openly* lies that he “plows into” the protesters. Absolute nonsense.

    Personally … i’m not stopping.

    I’m annoyed enough by “traffic” on a good day. It’s not really “traffic” that annoys me but the people driving. I’m a “hang up and drive” guy. You’re on the road, that’s your job. Stop fiddling with your phone, put away the makeup and hair brush, stop looking over at your passenger, stop turning around to look at the kids … get your eyes up, down the road … and drive. (If you want to do any of those other things–great. Pull over.)

    I’m 100% behind everyone’s right to protest. ( I’m so radical i think that even includes the right of white nationalist or separatist or Confederate statue lovers to protest.) But your right to protest doesn’t include the right to make me listen to your protest. It certain doesn’t include a right to stop me–detain me from going where i’m going.

    You stumble crossing the street–fine, i’ll slow down and stop. But if your “protest” is to try and detain me in my car. No. If the street isn’t closed–i’m going down it. And if you try and block me–sorry, my obligation to stop is zero. If you jump on my hood or try and break my window that’s an attack on me and a signal to me of your bad intentions towards me. Your life has just become completely expendable as far as i’m concerned and i’m just going to do whatever i can so that i’m fine and all the injury is to you. Thump, thump, thump.

    • Agree: Old Prude, Hemid
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  119. Anonymous[128] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m sincerely interested how Whiskey negotiates this into his existing thesis framework. Really, I’m not even going for a “white women LOVE LOVE LOVE looters” cheap shot. This potentially critical niche of economic sociology would seem to have been functionally invisible to our glamour-machine electronic mass mind thus far

  120. We had our own experience with these American scumbags ten years ago. They were called the Black Bloc back then. Perhaps they are in Antifa middle-management these days.

    https://nationalpost.com/news/toronto/americans-accused-of-black-bloc-protests-during-toronto-g20-summit-nabbed-in-u-s

    One of the accused, Joel Bitar, is alleged by police to be the masked man striking a financial district window with a pickaxe. Mr. Bitar was arrested earlier this month by U.S. authorities in New York City on behalf of Toronto police. He faces 26 charges, from mischief over $5,000 to assaulting a police officer, and has since posted bail on a $500,000 bond.

    Kevin Chianella, whom police say has not yet been apprehended, faces the most charges, about 50. A “complaint for arrest with a view towards extradition” filed by an Assistant United States Attorney in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, last week accuses Mr. Chianella of “conducting riotous acts” while in disguise, including the assault of a police officer and his car, “breaking windows, endangering lives, thefts and assaulting members of the media while wielding a canvas bag full of rocks.”

    The other accused are Quinn McCormic, who flew in from Boston of his own accord, Dane Rossman, who is in custody in Tucson for three charges, and Richard Dean Morano, who is in custody in Pennsylvania.

    Mr. Morano’s 13 charges include mischief over $5,000, intimidation of a justice system participant, and assaulting a peace officer.

    Mr. McCormic, an architect in Boston, faces three counts of mischief and one count of disguise with the intent to commit an indictable offence. Police accuse him of hurling objects through the windows of a Winners on Yonge Street, a CIBC and the Toronto Police Museum.

  121. Wilkey says:

    The stereotype I’ve had of Antifa is that they are whites from middle class or upper middle class backgrounds who are basically misfits, got to college and realized they weren’t nearly as smart as they thought they were, and are doomed to do much more poorly than their parents did. But for people in their position they realize that the biggest social upside is in aiding with the Left.

    At least a few of them seem to actually be in pretty good shape. I wouldn’t be shocked if, for at least some of them, there’s a little ‘roid rage going on.

    • Replies: @Znzn
    , @Jake
  122. @Dieter Kief

    Thank you very much for that pick-me-up, Dieter! My 8 year old boy just watched the video with me. He is just about good enough to play that boogie-woogie piano.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  123. res says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Thanks. This “fact check” of that document is interesting because it indicates the desired Narrative spin and what they feel they can and cannot say.
    https://www.thatsnonsense.com/does-dropped-manual-prove-may-2020-protests-organised-fact-check/
    Also snopes:
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/floyd-instruction-manual-protesters/

    A bit more context (beyond following your links).

    328BG: https://www.walmart.com/ip/TracFone-LG-328BG-Prepaid-Cell-Phone-Black/54882008
    I wonder what happens to those once the actions are over.

    Friends of Democracy and David Donnelly: https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?cycle=2018&strID=C00520080
    Interesting how they seemed to disappear (note spending graph) in 2016 and 2018 after the date of that document. They filed a termination document in July 2018. They showed <$40k cash on hand in 2015 which seems too little to do much, but if any of the $1.8 million they disbursed in 2014 had been socked away maybe that could explain? Documents at
    https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?C00520080

    Any idea how long ago the first sighting of that planning document was?

  124. @Inquiring Mind

    You ever see Will & Grace? Whitmer is like the left wing version of Karen Walker.

  125. Znzn says:
    @Wilkey

    Considering that you need an IQ of 130 at least because of automation to make a good living in the foreseeable future, since they even have robot plumbers now, that is pretty rich of you to say, are you a noble laurate yourself? I though the heritability of IQ means that the scions of the upper middle class professionals will likely have above average IQs themselves? Plus unlike white collar proffesions, a lot of blue collar trades end up with compromised health with things like back sprains or tunnel carpal syndrome.

  126. Thomm says:

    There is, of course, a large overlap between Antifa and WN, with many people seamlessly moving from one to the other. Left-wing economic views, among other things, are central to both groups. No one who knows anything about the politics of losers is surprised by this. WN is not ‘right wing’ in any economic sense.

    Each movement comprises of the bottom 20% of white males (brains, looks, talent, character, ethics). The female counterpart of this group, and thus equal in number, are the fat bluehaired feminists.

    If antifa participants tend to be ugly, that is no surprise, and the same is found in their brother/sister ideologies.

    • Troll: LondonBob, Malla
    • Replies: @anon
    , @Pericles
  127. anonn says:
    @Almost Missouri

    This is such an obvious forgery I can’t believe any adult would believe it. Antifa is not a real thing, you all on the right look cowardly and stupid for elevating a handful of moronic teenagers playing dress-up to try to get girls.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    , @AnotherDad
  128. Perhaps this picture of the guy smiling (for a mugshot??) better accompanies your post, although I hate to make fun of people for their teeth. My teeth would be very messed up if my parents couldn’t afford years of expensive orthodontia and dentistry for me.

    • Replies: @UK
    , @Kyle
  129. Do Antifa Tend to be Quite Ugly?

    But there is beauty in their hearts:

    Powerful: Protesters Spell Out ‘Love’ With Burning Homes And Businesses

    • Replies: @botazefa
    , @njguy73
  130. Charlemagne says: • Website

    Time for modern Amerika Freikorps.

    • Agree: donut
    • Replies: @Art Deco
  131. @RichardTaylor

    If by ugly and malformed, you mean Jewish, then yes.

    • LOL: donut
  132. @McFly

    So basically they’re betas who can’t get laid. Obviously, alpha males who look good, exercise, eat meat, have no reason to join Antifa as they’re actually living a full productive life and are functioning members of society.

  133. 128 says:

    Is it fair to make the observation the liberals have higher verbal IQ than conservatives? For those who say, what about math, the most important issues are basically metaphysical questions, or rather you have answers supplied by math or physics, but the final judgement call on what you should do is metaphysical in nature, where those who have higher verbal IQs have the advantage here.

  134. @RichardTaylor

    The fact that a lot of them were Jews might have something to do with it.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Lot
  135. Jake says:
    @Wilkey

    There is more than a bit of ‘roid’ rage, as well as meth rage and marijuana psychosis rage. Just like with street bruthas.

  136. Anonymous[129] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve Sailer:

    “Do Antifa Tend to be Quite Ugly?”

    What about the conservative nerds that read your blog? Do they tend to be quite ugly? Because from the pictures I have seen of you and of other members of the conservative alt-right, like John Derbyshire, you guys are not exactly stud muffins. You know how the popular saying goes:

    “Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.”

    You guys should really not try to denigrate people on the other side of the political spectrum from the whole sexual attractiveness angle, because no one is going to confuse you for movie stars or supermodels any time soon.

    Of course, this is just a not-to-veiled *personal* attack on the part of Steve Sailer towards those who’s political ideology is different from his. This is one of the characteristics of Steve Sailer: he doesen’t have the courage to be in-your-face and insult people that he hates directly, so he insults them indirectly by veiling his insults in the form of pseudo-intellectual questions, such as:

    “Are female journalists feminists because they are ugly and didn’t date the quarterback in high school?”

    “Are feminists feminist because they are all closeted lesbians that hate men?”

    “Are liberal male journalists liberal because they were beta males picked in high school by conservative jocks?”

    “Are liberals liberal who care about the plight of minorities because they want to enjoy moral superiority over conservatives(of course, this is a way to just deflect attention from the moral failings of white conservatives by making it an issue of immorality of the Left)”

    You can feel the anger of Sailer when he makes these comments. But this kind of ad hominem invective is the symptom of a weak mind that lacks arguments. That is a logical fallacy. Facts are either true or false based on the validity of their intrinsec axioms and whether the logical conclusions of the arguments follow from the validity of the intrinsec premises. It is 100% irrelevant whether the person making the argument was a 90 lbs nerd in high school who couldn’t get laid(in fact, this type of guy is usually right), or a kinky haired lesbian feminist that hates men, etc. The perssonal motivaton of some0ne making an argument is 100% irrelevant insofar as the validity of an argument goes.

    I suggest Steve Sailer enroll in a philosophy course at an university to learn how to think logically and how to formulate arguments. Specially “Introductions To Logic”, and “Introductions To Epistemology”.

  137. Definitely. Go to your average social justice club at a university and they’re all ugly and out of shape. They’re miserable people inside and outside.

  138. Paul says:

    I noticed while attending university that the most hard-core feminists seemed to be the most ugly ones and the lesbians. Even a less-intense feminist mentioned that to me. Such feminists seemed alienated.

  139. @anonymous

    Want to see handsome human beings?

    Go to Youtube and search “Hitler Youth”.

    Want to see ugly ones?

    Go for a walk.

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  140. Is the Umbrella Man a sly riff back to the JFK assassination, Munich, Chamberlain and Ambassador Kennedy.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbrella_man_(JFK_assassination)

    • Replies: @anon
  141. Not a lot of model types in this crowd:

    Miracle on 34th Street:

    I’ve been trying to save as many as of these videos as I can. 4K Video Downloader is giving me “Can’t parse this link” error messages, but TV Downloader is still working (with the latest youtube-dl version).

  142. utu says:
    @Almost Missouri

    This does not feel right. Forgery?

    • Replies: @peterike
  143. Haole says:
    @Old and Grumpy

    A left eye squint can be caused by right side brain damage. Drug use? heart attack? stroke, accidents? dunno.

  144. UK says:

    Steve,

    I haven’t read Jayne’s Bicameral Mind so my understanding will likely be a bit off, but my impression is that he gets things a little wrong, but no more than a little wrong

    In explaining why, I struggle to find neutral terminology, as he is addressing part of the fundamental human problem, so all words come loaded with baggage and there are an almost infinite number of synonyms aiming at the same truths.

    Keeping this disciplined is hard as there are so many interesting observations that fly off from the edges.

    Nonetheless, it seems that he posits that people just “were” and therefore had no specific consciousness. This then changed for some, enabling the rise of newly conscious heroic types. They were able to get more done by picking which voices to repress or to follow, according to what would be most efficacious.

    I think this rings true – the no consciousness bit, or at least it rings true as a very weak consciousness bit.

    Indeed, I feel it still captures a lot of people today – probably many of the rioters, as well as some people in the grips of psychosis and also little children. They just “are”, and it is really quite endearing (except when obviously destructive.)

    I also feel that this is a stage which all people should pass into, but also through. It makes an instinctive spiritual sense to me that therefore humanity may have passed into it as a rough whole, with some individuals early, and others yet to catch up. I do appreciate that this last assertion will be unlikely to make sense to others, but I’d prefer to share in full.

    Nonetheless, while picking and choosing which voices we listen to most certainly is a superpower when compared to the inability to do so, it also leads to ambivalence.

    If this is “it”, then from where does meaning come? Not from the Gods, whose voices we ignore…so where? Hence the ensuing 3000 year search for meaning and the rise of civilization to enable it.

    A further problem, other than ambivalence, is that those voices never were the voices of the Gods, of course.

    They were always the individuals in question; and the closer you are to shutting them off, the closer you are to an empty, meaningless achievement of effective suicide.

    That is not the painful screaming type of the hysteric, but the slow, quiet and somewhat surprising type of the seemingly well-adjusted late middle-aged. Perhaps of “deaths of despair?” Perhaps of late life transgenderism? Perhaps the madness of Isaac Newton?

    I believe this is the stage a lot of people are coming to at this historical moment. And yes, again, I’m perfectly aware of the kooky implications of people, in general, coming to something with the subsequent potential necessity for multiple lives to enable development over multiple lifetimes, shared consciousness and specific eras of spiritual development! But we can move on from that… (-;

    Anyway, that stage is in two parts. First, the person’s consciousness is developed enough to look back inside and listen to those voices again. This is no small task as looking must be without fear or judgement. And yet nothing will be as scary to an individual as everything that the individual has chosen to keep as locked up as possible. It is therefore unlikely that they will be able to look once and stay looking successfully. Instead, they may engage in it off and on for a whole lifetime, or may instead seem somewhat bipolar in switching off and on, with increasing success, over a shorter period of time.

    Once this is done, then the realisation that those voices are the person will come. That, while they may at first not seem to conform to whatever morality the individual has picked, they still exist, and it is harming someone grievously (yourself) to lock them away. It is therefore not virtuous!

    At this point, Jayne’s “consciousness” and his “voice of the gods’” can begin to work together before they eventually disappear into each other and function as the “one” that they always were. Or perhaps another way of looking at it is that voices look back and re-swell up to take control, now secured within the strength built up by the former consciousness.

    I believe, from a position of almost total ignorance, that this is what the Buddhists call enlightenment. It certainly sound right as it is the reintroduction of those god voices into your consciousness and into the light.

    Another interesting analogy for this would be the sacrifice of the humanly conscious Jesus, to be reborn and reinvigorated as one with the Holy Spirit. In that story, he certainly has to go through an appropriately difficult time to achieve such!

    With all of the above in mind, and with a profusion of people across the Western world going through what seem like (just) failed attempts at such a growth, I am quite hopeful for the future. A lot of trendy stuff, like mindfulness, is approaching this direction.

    For an example of subtle hopefulness, are white Americans a defeated people who are killing themselves off or have white Americans reached a stage where they are so strong at self-denying that they’d be finally capable of this transition? If the latter, then it will come.

    I don’t mean to introduce a racial or national element of course, it is just that it would make sense that this type of development would occur most soon among those higher on Maslow’s hierarchy of needs. Perhaps something similar is occurring in Japan but I am far too unfamiliar with the place to work it out.

    In other words, and these riots feed into it, the more self-denying onlookers notice things, the more they self-deny, and this makes them then stronger at self-denial. It is a spiral.

    Later, at some point, they become strong enough to actually look properly and the hate they are scared of rising within them will prove to be something else and more meaningful. They would then reach stage 1 of this internal development – they would be able toconfidently look within, rather than to merely repress, and need to repress others. In other words, the spiral contains the seed of its own ending.

    Not that these theories need to be pertinent to the contemporary political context, but they do provide further insight. They also show why the rioters seem infuriated by the weakness of the reaction. They lack a strong consciousness as they beat their own down, even while they try to beat down that of others. This is a spiral for them too, even as it also carries the seed of its own ending.

    Eventually, the turmoil within most of them will exhaust them completely, and some more consciousness, guilt and perhaps contrition can creep in while they are at self-defeated peace. Once creeped in, this becomes the spiral mentioned before, as they begin to run faster and faster away from those internal “god voices”, which they think told them to smash stuff and so on. They can then embark on the same path as outlined above.

    Or maybe this is too hopeful, as it seems that most people certainly never go through all of these stages and many don’t even go through the first.

    But then I feel perfectly clearly that all eventually really will progress. Even while I am equally certain that this will be dismissed by the majority as simply a “cope”.

    Anyway, I hope some of this feels true to you, but I also hope much more that you and yours remain safe in this chaotic time.

    Thanks for keeping us all informed!

  145. Funny, I’ve seen this only in Israeli news. No US sources …

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-says-new-york-lost-to-lowlifes-as-us-cities-brace-for-further-violence/

    Trump says New York ‘lost to lowlifes’ as US cities brace for further violence
    …………..

    “NYC, CALL UP THE NATIONAL GUARD,” he tweeted. “The lowlifes and losers are ripping you apart. Act fast! Don’t make the same horrible and deadly mistake you made with the Nursing Homes!!!

    In another tweet, he claimed that: “Yesterday was a bad day for the Cuomo Brothers. New York was lost to the looters, thugs, Radical Left, and all others forms of Lowlife & Scum. The Governor refuses to accept my offer of a dominating National Guard. NYC was ripped to pieces.
    ……………….

    By the way- I don’t see how Democratic establishment could be so dumb.

    Trump was poised to lose because of C-Chan, no wall, kowtowing to Israel & Wall Street..

    Now, he’s got a pretty fair chance of winning – if he pulls this through- simply because people prefer strong arm over chaos. It is basic mass psychology.

    It Trump turns out to be, eventually, strong- he will win. The more force he uses, the better.

    • Replies: @Rob
  146. @Almost Missouri

    I predict we’re no more than six months before this:

  147. @128

    No doubt a verbal vs. math tilt. I noticed that in 1975 reading through a college guidebook. I won’t weigh in on metaphysics.

  148. AKAHorace says:
    @S

    Are the Antifa types ugly? Orwell certainly thought so in his post revolution/purge novel, aka 1984.

    There is a passage in Arthur Koestler’s “Arrival and Departure” (set in Portugal during WWII) in which a Nazi says that you can see what is wrong with communists by the look of their women. Having said that though many people who support unusual and/or revolutionary ideas tend to be a bit odd looking. Orwell himself was obsessed with the idea that he was not attractive.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  149. Corn says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    “ The girls are typically white or overwhelmingly white mixes, usually from broken families or runaways; there’s a weird harem/sex orgy setup at times. ”

    Does anyone remember “Moldylocks”? Back in the first year of Trump’s admin there was a protest turned riot on the left coast and this antifa chicklet (white with dreadlocks) was running around hitting people with weighted gloves. Some dude slugged her and knocked her to the ground and briefly became a YouTube star.

    Anyway some people digging through her social media discovered she had either made a few porn movies or worked as a “cam girl”.

    Apparently she wasn’t the only one. Some dissident righters digging into antifa two or three years ago noticed a link between west coast antifa women and the porn industry.

  150. @UK

    Did Achilles just hear one voice, while Odysseus heard multiple voices which he chose among? Or vice-versa?

    • Replies: @128
    , @UK
  151. 128 says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Or maybe they just all belong in the mental institution? Maybe they also hear voices that tell them to shoot up the local mall or something?

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
  152. @AKAHorace

    In his later years, Orwell had this parentheses like lines on either side of his mouth that were a little distracting. But if he hadn’t gone for the Dictator Mustache, he would have looked fine. Probably having fatal TB didn’t do much for his looks.

  153. J.Ross says:

    THE DATA ARE WITH YOU, SIRE!

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    , @Anon
  154. J.Ross says:
    @Steve Sailer

    “Antifa” (Antifacist Aktion) was a clever Orwellian rebranding of the German Communist Party’s street brawlers, originally called the Ministry of Defense, so they were originally as Jewish as Emma Goldman, and still rely on Jewish extreme radicals in leadership, planning, and legal matters. Footsoldiers (the people you see in the videos) are probably almost never Jews.

  155. @Steve Sailer

    Antifa are the puppets; the Jews (like Soros) are the string-pullers.

    But both Taylor and I were talking about the Bolsheviks circa 1917.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Thomas
  156. @J.Ross

    Do they?

    Antifa look like losers to me.

    I guess this is another theory about secret string-pullers behind the scene, but I’m still waiting for evidence that that exists much, if ever.

    • Agree: UK
  157. @UK

    No, Jaynes was completely wrong. I won’t repeat arguments, but he was- wrong. Nothing to support his thesis.

    He was as wrong as Koestler with his Khazar hypothesis or British SPR with their investigations of famous mediums. Interesting, intriguing, … yet- not true.

  158. They seem to have a look about them that suggests their beef with society has less to do with ideology and more to do with how they came out kind of funny-looking.

    It would be interesting to do a regression analysis of AntiFa and Incels.

  159. George says:

    The only proven member of Antifa I know of was Eric Clanton who assaulted a person with a bike lock. I would rate him attractive. He also seemed to have high aspirations both within Antifa and in the liberal arts education business. I personally wondered if Antifa was the ‘armed wing’ of the educational establishment, to use an IRA Sinn Fein analogy. The educational establishment would include you local teachers union.

    Eric Clanton takes 3-year probation deal in Berkeley rally bike lock assault case
    A college professor charged with four counts of felony assault …

    https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08/eric-clanton-takes-3-year-probation-deal-in-berkeley-rally-bike-lock-assault-case

    • Agree: Desiderius
  160. peterike says:
    @utu

    This does not feel right. Forgery?

    What do radical Leftist group marching orders “feel like”?

    I can’t believe anyone is surprised that there is organization and funding behind Antifa. The exact same thing was going on with the Bolshevik revolutions in Russia and attempted revolutions elsewhere (e.g. Germany). Funding was provided in large amounts from American Jewish banking interests and others. There is an entire organizational structure behind it, and since our major Federal law enforcement agencies are simpatico with Antifa, nothing has been done about it. They operate with impunity. As long as they stick to deep blue cities, nobody goes after them at the city level. The state level doesn’t care. And the Feds are either in on it or averting their eyes.

    Here’s a list of Leftist influencers. This isn’t an Antifa list, but you can bet everyone on this list is an overt or covert support. Notice any trend in the names?

    https://www.influencewatch.org/person/

  161. martin_2 says:

    Surely, if you want to persuade other people to adopt political beliefs like your own, you need to start by being a well presented, productive citizen yourself. Do these people have any useful skills, trades? I doubt it. These are not serious people with serious political beliefs.

    The BNP – the white nationalist party in the UK – had a similar problem funnily enough. They were the party of the respectable white working class, but such people – frequently tradesmen – were unused to being involved in political action, they couldn’t write well or organise well, and didn’t look like proper politicians or even like people one would aspire to emulate.

  162. My personal experience with antifa punks is that it is a temporary marriage of born losers and ambitious opportunists.

    The born losers are from dysfunctional families and will never amount to anything. The opportunists come from better backgrounds and education, and are just using the movement until they can get into a suit job.

  163. If you look at the profiles of the openly Antifa on Twitter, there seems to be a disproportionate amount of trans among them. Weirdos find a home in Antifa.

    Their controllers need an army and they’ll take what they can get.

  164. @PennTothal

    It’s hard for a white person to talk about racism without being accused of it.

  165. Ray P says:
    @Joe Stalin

    Or one could favour the Chuck Heston solution (scoop action begins @2:30 :

  166. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    Apparently, Antifa beating up Lieutenant Dan:

  167. Bernard says:

    It’s not just antifa — there’s a whole class of youth celebrities who seem to look aggressively and intentionally ugly: hideous ‘grilles’ on their teeth, awful facial tattoos, horrible complexions from never going outside — just an overall look of ill health.

    I’m thinking of Tekashi Six Nine, Billie Eilish and Post Malone, but I’m sure there are better examples.

    Eilish is really quite beautiful if you examine her photos closely. The baggy clothes may hide a few unwanted pounds and the green hair is temporary. What’s left is a great face and smile. Only recently turning 18, she was marketed as an angst ridden teen.

    That will change soon.

    • Replies: @SomeoneOutHere
  168. @Achmed E. Newman

    Congrats to your 8-year-old boogie-man, Achmed!

    (Since nobody else cares anyway, I might as well try this one on you:

    Right before I woke up yesterday, I saw the lines of the Tommy-song spelled out wave-like in black letters right before my inner eye – you know, about the deaf, dumb and blind kid, who sure plays a mean pinball: “Ever since I was a young boy, I’ve played the silver ball….”

    Then I opened the window and sang this gem out loud, wearing an orange-colored jacket.

    Next thing: My new neighbor, wearing a neigh-orange overall, is yelling from the perfectly green meadow behind his garden, with a little echo from the near woods: I should come to his church-choir in Litzelstetten (= Littletown, literally translated) – such a beautiful voice as mine should never be wasted… – (nice story, isn’t it?!))

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  169. @J.Ross

    No such thing. Antifa “movement” is not real movement at all.

    There is not a clear-cut ideology behind them; they’re just degenerate children of the post-1968 confused New Left anarchist/terrorist radicals. They are simply a product of deracinated & drugged era of Western financial capitalism and urban dystopia.

    Antifa are used as useful idiots in the Kulturkampf between “globalists” & “nationalists”. They are funded mostly by the likes of Soros & similar globalist trash. Jews, whether nationalist or liberal-leftist, don’t have much to do with them (unless, of course, you are a believer in New World Order conspiracy & similar fairy tales).

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @utu
    , @Dumbo
    , @Pheasant
  170. Anon[410] • Disclaimer says:

    I think Antifa deliberately hires ugly-looking people to be its street organizers. More attractive people would be viewed with jealousy and resentment by lower-class people and wouldn’t get any cooperation. They wouldn’t pass as genuine ‘street’ and would be seen as outsiders and interlopers.

    The higher-ups are undoubtedly more attractive. People who are attractive tend to have a higher IQ, and higher IQ people tend to run things. They are the regional organizers. It’s the ugly street organizers who are more likely to be arrested, and the attractive people want to avoid that. They’re okay with throwing their ugly members to the cops.

  171. @128

    Ludwig Wittgenstein did not like to talk and had a rather humble way with words, but he did manage to be noticed even though. And not least in the metaphysical context.

    • Replies: @Ray P
    , @Pheasant
  172. t says:

  173. Malenfant says:
    @128

    True. To go a step further, replace the word “metaphysics” with “ethics.” On questions of ethics — and, by extension, legal and social matters — those with higher verbal IQs have the advantage.

  174. Kyle says:

    I’m not sure about this one Steve. 80% of Americans are ugly. The right wing people also seem pretty ugly and slobishly dressed to me.

  175. Apple Store at the Carnegie Library in Washington (May 11, 2019):

    Apple Store at the Carnegie Library in Washington (June 1, 2020):

  176. Whiskey says: • Website

    The decline of rock music has a lot to do with the rise of anti fa.

    Ugly dudes like Steven Tyler or Mick Jagger could clean up. Even the guy from Green Day had groupies. Flea had groupies.

    Now? It’s all boy bands and pop tarts manufactured. Ugly guys got nowhere else to go.

  177. Ray P says:
    @Dieter Kief

    Did he wear women’s dresses and hats?

  178. Rob McX says:
    @Cave

    Yikes. He also seems to be of mixed race, maybe half or quarter Chinese.

  179. @BB753

    I only watched half of it, but …

    Dutton seems to say that ‘spiteful mutants’ tend to emanate from the upper class, since Darwinian selection is no longer in effect among them. But Darwinian selection has no effect among ANY class now, so you’re getting huge numbers of mutants from the middling classes, like these Antifa types.

    • Agree: BB753
  180. Znzn says:
    @Steve Sailer

    What do winners look like? Godfree Roberts?

  181. UK says:
    @Steve Sailer

    The following is formulated from a casual reading of Homer’s work, and not one made very recently but:

    The triumph of Odysseus’s plan, where Achilles’ failed, is the triumph of consciousness. One might say it is the story of the Iliad.

    This core theme is shown, with more detail, in how Odysseus could discuss with the voices of the Gods, while Achilles could mostly only rage at them, while doing their will.

    During the Odyssey on the other hand, Odysseus becomes “no one” while also being punished by the voices of the Gods for his egotistic pride. Furthermore, he journeys through an approximation of his own unconscious for many years, complete with many very obvious giveaways, and eventually, successfully, returns “home” (to himself .)

    Remarkably, after a quick proof, he then takes on what is described as a god-like (enlightened?) appearance.

    Homer was a smart man indeed. Proust’s Faust is only the simpler first half of this story with a Deus Ex Machina at the end.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @nebulafox
  182. @TelfoedJohn

    The progeny of public sector or public sector union/academic parents and destined for the same occupations, not a skilled trade, agriculture or small business background in the miserable lot. All of them have university-level exposure to Marxism by way of the humanities or social sciences, a consequence of the complete failure of Western educational institutions to repel Communist agitation in the guise of academic endeavour. Average verbal IQ 110, enough to get get you in trouble with Marxist gibberish but not enough to get you out.

    • Replies: @TelfoedJohn
  183. Truth says:

    If you aren’t a liberal at the age of 20, then you have no heart.

    If you haven’t turned conservative by the age of 30, then you have no brain.

    -W.C.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  184. Fun says:
    @Anon

    I have. It’s doable to get enough macro nutrients on a planned vegan diet, and even bulk up.

    The legion of fat, high cholesterol, pre-diabetic people who think ketchup is a vegetable don’t get singled out for eating meat. Even though reducing meat consumption would improve their health immensely.

    • Replies: @slumber_j
  185. Dumbo says:

    To be fair, most people are ugly. That’s even more true in today’s Weimar (or Walmart) America. But in olden times they tended to at least dress a bit better, which decreased a bit the effect.

    • Replies: @DextersLabRat
  186. Truth says:
    @Anonymous

    Steve-O, I wouldn’t say he’s…completely off, there.

  187. @Altai_2

    These are the tough vibes of our digitalized/synchronized Global Village… – another aspect of globalization, that might be slightly tilted to the downside of this kind of – progress. – I’ll meditate on Lau Dse later in the evening, hehe. He saw it all coming… (and french mathematician/philosopher Blaise Pascal, who insisted that everybody would be better off not leaving their room at all – the true CO-19-prevention man too, now that I think of him … !).

    • Replies: @Altai_2
  188. Truth says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    In my experience, the men are often your typical criminal dead enders(white hispanic in one case) with mental issues including genuine retardation – a prize catch for them would be a physically large, mentally childish boyman. The girls are typically white or overwhelmingly white mixes, usually from broken families or runaways; there’s a weird harem/sex orgy setup at times. Often underage.

    So in, say, an average week, how much tang were you getting?

  189. Mr. Blank says:
    @RichardTaylor

    Yes. And note that the only arguably handsome one (Stalin) was the guy who rose to the top. Same thing in Cuba with Castro. I don’t know much about Chinese ideals of male appearance, but it wouldn’t shock me to discover that Chairman Mao was considered good-looking by his people’s standards.

    It’s kind of hilarious that even in a club dedicated to lifting up losers, the studly alpha males still end up as the biggest winners.

  190. Yeah, it wouldn’t surprise me if good looking people who have their lives in order would be less likely to be rioting and looting.

  191. Charlemagne says: • Website
    @peterike

    Freikorps, where are you?

  192. botazefa says:
    @Lot

    You l know, Lot, those photos make me think of the Jeffrey Epstein girls. The ones featured in the Netflix series released recently. Most of them had a physical blemish, and all were very vulnerable – homeless, low IQ, abused.

    Not a lot of fathers in the homes of Epstein’s victims.

    Sailer is onto something.

  193. J.Ross says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Joe Slovo wasn’t a bantu.
    BLM made an appearance on NPR a few years back with a Jewish spokesperson/advocate who spoke like a total slimeball lawyer stereotype, arguing (at about a thousand words per minute) that the technical disproportion of alleged black racism deaths is more important than the disproportion of them happening less often than several categories of unjust death (eg, white victims of police brutality).
    A while back there was some attention on violent leftist groups apart from antifa (which is a para-governmental arm in Europe but was still establishing itself here). Their leadership were consistently Jewish lawyers and their footsoldiers were generally black and white street people with some college students.
    If it makes you feel better, it goes without saying that the Jews in question are atheists, not representative of American Jewry generally (these are dedicated radicals, not even representative of garden variety leftists), and generally do the “citizen of the world” globalist of no nation characterization.

  194. Brian T says:

    Short answer: Yes.

    My impression is that Antifa consists of youths who are either genuinely anti-social (semi-homeless, mentally ill etc), or else middle-class kids who try to look and act anti-social at demos but who may be quite pleasant and articulate when, say, chatting to their Gender Studies professor. It can be hard to tell how deliberate the ugliness of the latter category is.

    Of course, they are often masked in public, which makes their looks even harder to guage.

    I suspect that there are plenty of behind the scenes actors whose faces, masked or otherwise, we never see. All those Antifa fliers, stickers, posters and buses don’t pay for themselves. Here in Europe (maybe in America too, I don’t know), many hard-left elected representatives take home the average industrial wage while donating the rest of their income to worthy political causes. You can be sure that plenty of that money finds its way into the coffers of these scumbags. In my experience, looks-wise, hard-left politicians are almost never on the good side of average.

    In general, I think, the only political activists who are really good-looking tend to be from the pragmatic, I-know-which-side-my-bread-is-buttered-on mainstream. But only in general. I find Richard Spencer pretty darn handsome.

  195. @AnotherGuessModel

    Happy, ugly people with double barrel shotguns scare me. Especially the ones with just one tooth left in their head.

  196. Charon says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Is that real, or not? I certainly don’t trust snopes’ opinion.

  197. Altai_2 says:

    The world’s greatest killer of Iraqi children has some thoughts on the mass hysteria and derangement he helped cause so he and his kind can get back to killing Syrian children. How long before mainstream intellectuals look back at this and wonder: “Why did everyone think the guy from the apprentice was literally Hitler?”

  198. J.Ross says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    They’re a formal organization with addresses you can write to or visit and they commit hundreds of crimes every year. Saying they don’t exist is going full boomer. They use a strategy of deliberate obfuscation in organization, ideology, and membership, which isn’t even unique for radical groups. Consider PETA having a respectable public face, posh offices to receive and process donations, but still coddling and accommodating a known arsonist. This is far less complex or unlikely than the Lincoln assassination or the original Ponzi scheme, it’s literally just corporate specialization. By now everyone will have heard examples of radical weasel words about “giving voice to emotion” and “defending yourself against racism” and things of this sort, and Bardon here reminds you that these wordings are not the exact same thing as advocacy of violence.
    Meanwhile the official story is that, far from being Jewish or Jewish-led, these groups are actually Nazis.

  199. More scenes from the end of America / end of capitalism / end of bricks-and-mortar retail:

    [MORE]

    Apple Store in Portland, Oregon (May 31, 2019):

    Apple Store in Portland, Oregon (June 1, 2020):

    Pioneer Place Mall in Portland, Oregon (July 7, 2019)

    (Note the brief glimpse of the Louis Vuitton store around 3:45.)

    Pioneer Place Mall in Portland, Oregon (May 29, 2020):

    Microsoft Store on Fifth Avenue (June 29, 2017):

    Microsoft Store on Fifth Avenue (June 1, 2020):

  200. @Ray P

    Dress the pictured man in a kaftan and fur hat and he could have come straight outta Odessa 1880-1922 and have made bombs for Russian revolutionaries.

    People wearing Kaftans and fur hats were not making bombs. It was those people who had abandoned the kaftan and fur hat, who were making bombs.

    • Replies: @Ray P
  201. anon[355] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross

    . Steal a forklift, carry the already-outdoor bricks, then celebrate with (I imagine) marihuana and Moloch worship afterwards.

    How does that work?
    Try crane trucks loaded with pallets of bricks dropping off a pallet at designated locations in multiple cities prior to riots kicking off.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  202. Altai_2 says:
    @Dieter Kief

    The upside. Once they synchronise the world economy. There will be nowhere for the spivs, robber barons and financialists to hide. China won’t take their likes once it becomes the nice place to live. Live by the sword die by the sword in terms of this rhetoric and hysteria they’re inducing to try and snuff out populism and political realignment.

    I’m still waiting on Paris or Marseille to have their own moments in imitation. Maybe even London. We’re 15 and 9 years out from the last big riots and things have only gotten much more in terms of the social kindling on those and particularly in the rhetoric of hostility to the indigenous population and white people more generally.

    Maybe a curveball will come from all the new Sub-Saharans Frontex insists on dumping and cooping up in Italy.

  203. utu says:
    @UK

    Proust?

    • Replies: @UK
  204. botazefa says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    LoL.

    Love this obvious factually accurate photograph that is not doctored in any way.

    Nicely done, Reg C

  205. Stealth says:
    @Anon

    Lots of them. There’s nothing inherently deficient about a vegan diet, other than the notable lack of vitamin b12. Are there unhealthy looking vegans? You bet. However, they’re usually people who adopted some ridiculous diet, such as fruitarianism, while others are simply anorexic people who use veganism as a cover for not eating enough calories. I only eat meat every now and then, and while I might not be the greatest physical specimen in the history of mankind, the transition didn’t harm me in any way. Quite the opposite, actually.

  206. Ray P says:
    @kaganovitch

    That’s the internet: one never knows what kaftan-and-fur-hat-wearer one is going to insult.

  207. @Dr. Krieger

    I have no links, but I’ve heard the case that we’re starting to birth some serious mutants these days (was probably here at Unz) Too many children that previously wouldn’t have made it past infancy – 5 years old. They’ve been breeding for, what, 5 generations now? And we sure as Hell aren’t getting X-Men out of it.

    There isn’t much doubt we are building up mutational load.

    This can be reasonably countered with a program of eugenics–eugenic fertility. But, of course, eugenics is “discredited” and “Nazi!”

    • Agree: Kronos
  208. @Bernard

    Eilish looks like a guy,and a very unattractive one at that.Not that the bruthas she surrounds herself with mind,as they like the DL anyway.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  209. utu says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Jews, whether nationalist or liberal-leftist, don’t have much to do with them (unless, of course, you are a believer in New World Order conspiracy & similar fairy tales). – Bardon Kaldian

    Jewish Antifa Group Vandalizes Nazi Collaborator Plaque
    https://forward.com/fast-forward/418429/jewish-antifa-nazi-petain-plaque-new-york/

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  210. Bert says:

    Antifa is the type of person who wants to destroy what he cannot enjoy. And since it takes work to really enjoy something, antifa spiral into a cesspool of destructive nihilism. Their main problem is laziness.

  211. njguy73 says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Ah, the Babylon Bee. Never fails to make me laugh.

  212. Jay Fink says:
    @Chriscom

    I was recently watching a clip of an antifa guy in Portland attack a patriot wearing an American flag jacket. What struck me in this particular case is how these two young men looked a like, almost interchangeable if it wasn’t for the flag jacket. The antifa guy looked pretty harmless. like some random college student, and it was surprising to see he had it in him to be a violent savage. It looked so unnatural to me it made me wonder if he was on meth or some other type of drug.

  213. @utu

    So what? There are Jewish gay groups, but that doesn’t mean that gay (sub)culture is “basically” Jewish.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  214. @J.Ross

    Ignoring Hispanics, Blacks are something like 13% to 15% of the population and whites are roughly 52% to 55%, or 4 times more numerous. Race baiters will tell you that that means that adjusted for share, blacks are between 3 and 4 times more likely to be arrested and shot, while ignoring the inconvenient truth about their share of crimes also scaling significantly.

  215. Stealth says:
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    All plant foods have the eight essential amino acids. Some have more of some and less of others, but you could get what you need from any single plant food.

    Some people are just bony. It’s not the result of anything they did wrong. They (we) got dealt a shitty genetic hand, so they have long, slender frames, thin bones and small muscles.

    When I was a child, everyone, including my parents (who were otherwise good as gold), told me that I was too thin and needed to eat more. They used terms like “frail” and “emaciated” to describe me – to my face. I guess the assumption was that since being thin was undesirable, but not a recognized handicap, it must be the result of some failing on the part of the child him/herself.

    Where am I going with this? Oh, yeah. Go easy on skinny guys. It’s not always the result of malnutrition or drug use.

  216. @Steve Sailer

    Jews brag that they created Antifa; but I agree that today the Jewish percentage among its rank and file is probably not particularly high.

    https://forward.com/life/family/380923/the-original-antifa-was-a-jewish-anti-nazi-militia/

  217. UK says:
    @utu

    Yes, but spelled G – O – E – T – H – E.

    Sorry! Quite a funny association though.

  218. Dumbo says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Jews, whether nationalist or liberal-leftist, don’t have much to do with them

    They do in the sense that Antifa also fights “anti-semitism” and “nazis”. Even though they would like to burn Goldman Sachs offices and support Palestinians and Muslims in general, so I guess they are ambiguous on that front.

    (unless, of course, you are a believer in New World Order conspiracy & similar fairy tales).

    Fairy tales are based on truth, or, rather, in something deeper than truth.

  219. LondonBob says:

    Wasn’t there some study and they found a disproportionate number of criminals have some sort of facial disfigurement?

  220. @Almost Missouri

    That shows how former radicals could later become successful (neo-liberal, for example) rationalists. – There is a rational core here, which serves both sides quite well.

    (This pattern can be repeated in other contexts ad libitum. Maybe the Manichäists were the first, who spelled this basic dynamic out. The medieval genius Nikolaus von Kues, stemming from the same Mosel-region as Karl Marx,  packed all that in two words: Coincidentia oppositorum – the (occasional) meeting of opposite parts).

    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
  221. @HunInTheSun

    Agreed.. But I’ve noticed when I read a bio of someone notable or accomplished then I’ll discover that their parents were often teachers.

    Standards have fallen however, so I expect future academic progeny to have the self-entitlement but not the ability.

    https://www.unz.com/anepigone/average-iq-of-college-undergrads-and-graduate-degree-holders-by-decade/

  222. @anonn

    This is such an obvious forgery I can’t believe any adult would believe it. Antifa is not a real thing, you all on the right look cowardly and stupid for elevating a handful of moronic teenagers playing dress-up to try to get girls.

    The documents are forgeries. Antifa and it’s funding from Soros and other leftist/minoritarian financiers are quite real.

    • Troll: Kyle
    • Replies: @Jane Plain
    , @anonn
  223. Lot says:
    @UK

    Antifa culture started in England and West Germany in the late 1970s.

  224. Anon[314] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Window-smashing Antifa or content-generating Antifa?

    This was sent by a woman friend. If you click on the links there’s even meditations on white privilege, by a brooklynite Aaron Rose.

    https://www.theactivistarchive4blm.com/

    They were never Protestants, they manned the presses to produce adulterated Bibles.

    Bottom line, one can be an activist fanatic without ever touching a brick.

  225. When you promote the doctrine that no one can become better than else, even in theory, any social movement which embraces this idea will naturally attract losers, weirdos, misfits, mental patients and other specimens of low sexual market value, especially the sexually evicted men called incels.

    By contrast, the traditional , hierarchical society that the Enlightenment project started the process of destroying a quarter-millennium ago at least recognized and enforced standards of human excellence and superiority, and it rewarded the individuals who met these standards.

  226. @128

    I saw this “on the Web someplace, but it is said that a large fraction of humanity does not hear an “inner voice” when they are thinking about something.

    I for one, hear myself talking in my mind, even if it is something simple like, I have a shopping list, before I leave, is there anything else I need to include? I joked to an adminstrative assistant (the job description used to be, “secretary”), that my office is on a hall with a lot of loud door slams and that “I can’t hear the voices in my head with all this commotion”, to which I was told “You’re funny!” I do need to talk to myself, silently, to figure out solutions to questions as part of my work activity.

    The Web source informs me that such mental behavior is not unusual. What the Web article finds unusual is that if not a majority, at least a large fraction of people queried do not have an “inner voice” that they hear without talking out loud.

    I found the article:

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/pristine-inner-experience/201110/not-everyone-conducts-inner-speech

    I guess this is called “inner speech”, and I am engaging in such inner speech to organize my thoughts to compose this blog comment. So who are these people without inner speech.

  227. I think there is some truth to the idea that nationalists are people who are comfortable in their own skin … either because they are beautiful or are reconciled to the fact that they are not beautiful and fix themselves up the best they can…. but at least are not resentful of those who are. They see a purpose for objective beauty.

    (Btw how long before someone who is cleaned up, dressed up, has a fresh haircut, etc. is doxxed on suspicion of wrongthink?).

    The only question is … how do you explain the actors and models who are almost universally shitlibs? Tentative answer is: they have been in effect #metoo’d: “Either dance to the tune of our politics… or youre not getting anywhere kid.”

  228. utu says:
    @128

    When you see the world through the complexity of culture which both top liberals and conservatives do it certainly takes higher brain power than when you see the world in materialistic terms like Marxists and Darwinists. The Marxists on the Left and Darwinists on the Right tend to produce simpler, ultra reductionists narratives of reality. The latter are not much different from a textbook on animal husbandry though they may lack the sense of responsibility and tenderness farmers often feel for their subjects. There is more complexity in Marxists narrative than in the Darwinist story telling.

    When you look at mathematicians and physicists who one may argue have lower verbal scores than those who studied humanities like philologists, historians, lawyers you will find using the example of USSR and Soviet Block countries that physicist and mathematicians were more likely to support and get involve in the risk carrying dissent activities which were for liberal causes. All those dissidents were liberals and and to some extent socialists though anti Soviet Communist. You would not find among them libertarians or social Darwinists. Were they also conservative? Many of them were for restoration of religion.

    Where can you find conservatisms nowadays. Certainly there is a big overlap with religion. Probably the most intellectually interesting conservatives you will find among Catholics. You are right that ultimately it comes to some sort of metaphysics which is responsible for moral reasoning and ethical impulses.

  229. In the same way feminism is for broken, ugly women, far-left politics is for broken, ugly men.

    And they all look like they needed fathers growing up.

  230. RSDB says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Not German, but

    Josip Broz Tito was the “seventh or eighth” (wiki) son of a farmer and was an apprentice locksmith.

    Bela Kun was the son of a notary and became a journalist and some kind of insurance agent.

    Largo Caballero was a stucco plasterer, but he was from an earlier generation.

    Enrique Lister was a stonemason.

    Elsewhere Ho Ci Minh was the son of a Confucian scholar and an itinerant working at various jobs.

    George Orwell was a British civil servant who liked slumming; he wasn’t a leader though.

    Germany:

    Rosa Luxemburg had a law degree as did Karl Liebknecht; Kurt Eisner edited a newspaper; Ernst Toller was a playwright; Erich Mielke was a reporter; Marinus van der Lubbe was at one point a bricklayer.

  231. Hemid says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Half the people I know who’ve joined are ruling-class/bohemian Jews—my friends and peers. The others are Minnesota Scandinavian socialist professors’ kids and “trafficked” Russian-speaking prostitutes who’ve been instructed to wear FUCK TRUMP shirts for their cam shows.

  232. Charlotte says:
    @Inquiring Mind

    In most of the photos I’ve seen of her, she looks like someone who should be rather attractive, but isn’t. I think it’s her expression. She’s got this big smile that doesn’t really convey good humor or warmth.

    • Replies: @Servant of Gla'aki
  233. SafeNow says:

    George Orwell said, “At 50, everyone has the face he deserves.” The idea, of course, is that the face takes on the ugliness of the thoughts being thunk, because the face acts in concert with the thinking. Maybe with social media, there are many more occasions to think ugly, hateful thoughts, and thus, “age 50” needs to be advanced a few decades.

  234. @Lugash

    Your explanation sounds very reasonable.

  235. anon[355] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mark Grainger

    No, it’s a signal. A raised opened umbrella is about 10 feet off the ground and easily visible.

  236. @AnotherDad

    I was just thinking, if Trump really wants to make progress, he needs to RICO the Soros family.

    Trump missed his chance at things like this when he allowed Obama’s political hacks in the DOJ to keep their jobs.

    The fact Soros remains untouched to this day should lead one to wonder who he owns in government.

  237. Drakejax says:

    I have had the impression a chunk of Antifa is the unemployed (from their protest jobs) prior gay rights activists. Remember how ruthless, if unimpressive looking, the gay rights vigilantes were? Antifa seems to have sprung up right after gay marriage was passed. It might explain why they look wimpy but are very nasty. Also why they expect the press to cover for them. Now who funds them is a more interesting question.

  238. The Apocalypse will not be televised … but it will be streamed:

    [MORE]

    Everybody’s shopping but nobody’s buying at this Best Buy:

    Dwayne’s raiding the ATM at Duane Reade:

  239. donut says:
    @TelfoedJohn

    Fucking misfits every one of them . How is it that these creatures deformed in mind and body are calling the shots . Oh it’s not really them calling the shots is it ?

  240. They are just Incels.
    Doing what they think gets them some low quality vagina.
    THe kind of vagina, that itself is more on the dumb end and highly impressionable and follows whatever is popular.
    The ones, that are the reason why women really shouldn’t vote in the first place.

  241. Neuday says:
    @128

    How many of you people sleep with supermodels every day? With all due respect, considering how John Derbyshire and Fred Reed, or Karlin looks like, you people should be the last people on this earth to go after someone’s looks.

    John and Fred are in their 70’s, so that’s not fair. Sure, Derb’s always been goofy looking, but he’s a Brit. I’m pretty sure Fred pulled some nice looking stuff back in the day.

    I don’t sleep with a supermodel, but I do sleep with a former ballerina every night who still has the anorexia to prove it. Is that close enough?

  242. Altai_2 says:

    This is my new favourite video on the internet.

    It’s the cluelessness of the dumb frat bros who don’t understand how they clearly looked like they were mocking the protestors along with the idea that their giving a thumbs up as they listen to rap music in their dorm constitutes being ‘on their side’ when they could just as easily go out and march is just too much.

  243. Thea says:
    @Steve Sailer

    If by secret they mean the rather well known left wing Soros linked groups, then I suppose you can call it a conspiracy.

    Probably the usual activist celebrities donate to them. The list likely contains no surprises.

  244. @anonymous

    Some people do okay on vegan diets but it can be deceptive because there are people who build good physiques over years of omnivory, then switch to veganism, which cuts their body fat a little, and they claim it’s a superior diet.

    Tyson is a good comparison because he’s been vegan for a decade. The following article says Tyson has “a physique most 53-year-old men can only dream of”. However, he doesn’t look any better than my father… who’s 73. And compare him to 50-something Shawn Baker, “the carnivore MD”–Baker is much fitter and younger looking.
    https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/708201/mike-tyson-vegan-2010-heavyweight-comeback/

  245. utu says:

    “The fact Soros remains untouched to this day should lead one to wonder who he owns in government.” – More important question is who does Soros represent?

  246. @Cave

    Isn’t that one of the orcs from Peter Jackson’s Lord of the Rings movies?

  247. @obwandiyag

    “To….m-u-r-d-e-r him.”

    Good. He was a sack of shit anyway. A drug-dealing addict, he won’t be missed.

  248. @Daniel Chieh


    I’ve actually known antifa. In my experience, the men are often your typical criminal dead enders(white hispanic in one case) with mental issues including genuine retardation – a prize catch for them would be a physically large, mentally childish boyman. The girls are typically white or overwhelmingly white mixes, usually from broken families or runaways; there’s a weird harem/sex orgy setup at times. Often underage.

    One antifa type I know said that protesting was a great way to get laid (pardon the vernacular). Many of them are very intelligent but “damaged” in some way, as you suggest. They’re tech savvy and travel from city to city. Some are very organized. They crash at places that advertise solidarity with a protest on some encrypted system, and apparently it’s a real party.

    There’s really nothing new in the world.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catechism_of_a_Revolutionary

    Shallow souls really love that kind of thing. Finally a purpose, a cause, something to fill that void.

    Forward to the barricades!

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  249. t says:

  250. antifa not necessarily ugly. are they dumb dorks? ubetcha

  251. J.Ross says:

    Right now the lyingpress and elements of the government are daring to push a bold obvious lie on the gamble that most people are stupid: days after the front of the CNN headquarters building was defaced, stoned, and mounted by screaming black people (some shirtless, to make blackface even less practical), we are asked to believe that there is no black crime and that the recent anti-police disturbances are the work of white nationalists. The FBI is sauntering past unencrypted web sites anyone can visit to talk about the encouragement of violence on social media, that is, to set up pretext for trying to censor all those inconvenient videos which will now circulate forever. We are in a situation where the left can destroy blocks of major cities, on video, then blame white people generically (and not a tiny freak subgroup of white people who murderously hate white people), and so get legislation passed and prosecutions pursued.

  252. wren says:

    Is this real? I can’t figure it out.

  253. J.Ross says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    When the Attorney General of Minnesota poses for a selfie with the Antifa Handbook don’t the benefactors get a little less mysterious?

  254. jon says:
    @Old and Grumpy

    Weinstein had the weird wide eye thing, too:

  255. Frey’s wife is pretty.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @donut
    , @OilcanFloyd
  256. Anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:

    Yes, but not cause they are leftists or anarchists. Cause they are extreme.

    Ugly people with no social skills tend to be attracted to extreme political movements. Doesn’t matter if it’s extreme progressive, conservative, authoritarian, or libertarian.

    Centrism tends to attract average and good looking people. Apoliticals also tend to be good looking.

  257. utu says:

    OT: How the cruel legacy of covid may last a lifetime: Evidence suggests even those with mild symptoms can be left with long-term damage to their heart, lungs and other organs
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8378419/Evidence-suggests-mild-covid-19-symptoms-left-long-term-damage-organs.html

    More evidence smokers are at less risk of Covid-19: Scientists discover adults who are hooked on cigarettes are 50% less likely to test positive for the illness
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8380289/More-evidence-smokers-risk-Covid-19-Adults-half-likely-test-positive.html

    Wuhan doctor, 42, whose skin turned dark due to coronavirus treatment ‘dies after battling the deadly disease for nearly five months’
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8379737/Wuhan-doctor-skin-turned-dark-coronavirus-treatment-dies.html

    • Replies: @Anon
  258. @Kibernetika

    Shallow souls really love that kind of thing. Finally a purpose, a cause, something to fill that void.

    Others become Buddhists.

    2) As Stokely Carmichael famously said, “The position of women in the movement is horizontal.”

  259. @Anonymous

    You can feel the anger of Sailer when he makes these comments. But this kind of ad hominem invective is the symptom of a weak mind that lacks arguments. That is a logical fallacy. Facts are either true or false based on the validity of their intrinsec axioms and whether the logical conclusions of the arguments follow from the validity of the intrinsec premises.

    You, not Steve, is the one who is confused. (And what’s with this nonsense “intrinsec” word?).

    A) Steve’s has a solid, well reasoned argument with establishment leftism which basically is HBD. I.e. people–groups of people–are not equal in their capabilities and behaviors because we are a biological species, of various races and sub-races that have undergone selection in different environments, including the environments we progressively created for ourselves. This is just a logical-historical fact. And that HBD, not “racism!” or “white oppression” is the driver of group inequality.

    This is buttressed by the failure of America to “fix” its “race problem” in 60 years of *very expensive* effort, and that ever more ludicrous and convoluted explanations the left must offer for black behavior/performance. And additionally the added examples we are getting from all the various diverse groups who have added themselves to the US during this age of immigration.

    B) Steve’s not angry. Or more accurately he does not come across as angry. (Heck if i know how angry he is.) Me–i’m angry!

    C) Steve’s question/suggestion about Antifa and ugliness was not an argument about their worth–everyone here is pretty much on board with the obvious truth that they are scum–but simply a sociological observation/question: Do Antifa people tend to be notably ugly? (I don’t know the answer for certain but i strongly suspect it is “Yes” for many of the reasons commenters have offered.)

    Sociological speculation/analysis is something intellectually interested people like to do.

    • Replies: @utu
  260. @AnotherDad

    That’s a forged document.

  261. Altai_2 says:

    More fraying of the coalition of the fringes. Eliot Engel caught on hot mic saying he doesn’t care about the George Floyd killing.

    ‘If I Didn’t Have A Primary I Wouldn’t Care’: Democratic Rep. Eliot Engel Caught On Hot Mic At Press Conference
    https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/02/eliot-engel-hot-mic-george-floyd-protests-riots-new-york-city/

  262. @128

    ‘How many of you people sleep with supermodels every day? With all due respect, considering how John Derbyshire and Fred Reed, or Karlin looks like, you people should be the last people on this earth to go after someone’s looks.’

    Hey. I’m frigging gorgeous.

  263. @anonymous

    In Antifa, nobody can hear you look in the mirror and scream.

    I think you are on the right track, but the reality for a truly ugly person is even worse than you are suggesting.

    They must hate the outside world, everything about it.

    They want to destroy everything, anything, anyone–especially stuff that is bright and shiny.

    They are best understood as two year olds having temper tantrums.

    There really is nothing to discuss with them–they just need to be separated far from civilization.

    They would be great first settlers on Mars.

  264. Art Deco says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Wagers the previous one was too. He’s 38 and childless.

  265. Art Deco says:
    @Anonymous

    You can feel the anger of Sailer when he makes these comments.

    How’s life on the spectrum?

    Anyone more than remotely familiar with Sailer is familiar with his sensibility in these fora. His family may feel any anger he harbors. For the rest of us, he’s just a man observing the human comedy.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  266. 216 says:

  267. About Antifa and ugliness, I’ve noticed that. I can’t prove this but I think they are from much lower status groups than SDS, who were always middle to upper-middle class. Most SDS women were frumpy but not ugly. Bernardine Dohrn was always said to be attractive but I never thought so. Maybe she was better looking in person than in pictures.

  268. Some 20 years ago, the band “Rage against the machine” was popular among the black bloc Antifa types.

    I thought “Rage against the genetic lottery” would have been more descriptive.

  269. @Altai_2

    This is a color revolution. Same people who brought you the Arab Spring, Syria and Gadaffi’s overthrow. He works for an intelligence agency or private military contractor. This whole thing is an op. Antifa is just the cover for real operators who put things in motion and then paid useful idiots, general goons and bored youth to finish the job.

  270. Here is another data point. Someone running a site called Zombietime has been taking pictures of protests for a long time. I imagine these individuals are the precursors to today’s Antifa.

    http://zombietime.com/

    Be warned some of the pictures are disturbing.

  271. @obwandiyag

    No, dumbass. They tried to put him in the back for a nice quiet ride to the station, but the 6’6 “gentle giant” on drugs wouldn’t go in the back. He started flailing and thrashing and resisting arrest. That’s why they had to restrain him and call for backup instead of arresting him like a civilized white person would have allowed.

    Then he had a heart attack triggered by his drug-induced delirium panic. It’s called dying from a drug overdose and bad choices.

    Except every moron in the country is blaming cops and white people for this guy’s self-destructive stupidity because he seemed pathetic on the out-of-context viral video.

  272. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    Criminals and hardcore losers in general are usually ugly. And Antifa are simple thugs who are recruited and sponsored by some higher interest and allowed to do what thugs like to do. They are Dixie cups, disposable, in the great order of things.

    Free food, booze, dope and the services of radical lawyers who are in more or less open conspiracy with lefty prosecutors and judges amounts to cheap labor for destruction.

    The original antifa, in whom the modern ones take great pride in being the descendants of spiritually, were the Reds of Weimar and post-Weimar Germany. They caused such general mayhem that when their nemesis, the SA were formed using similar methods (basically, they also recruited thugs and criminals) most Germans were happy to see them beat the shit out of the anitfa. One on one the Reds were generally thuggier and tougher, but the brownshirts were, like Roman legions, better disciplined and led, and eventually won. Germans didn’t necessarily like either side but the SA were their thugs, and they established that early on.

    Most Germans were never enthusiastic about the NSDAP but they found that their living conditions improved enormously when they took power. They, unlike most people in most countries today, also knew just how much grief and bloodshed Communists had inflicted wherever they went, and they were vaguely aware of the disparate presence of one small, influential ethnicity amongst the Communists. What happened to this group may not have had a sufficient reason or been the right thing to do but anyone who says it did not have A reason, as modern Holycostianiasts repeat endlessly, is simply lying.

    It is said that one cannot punish a cat: that is, a cat is incapable of understanding that a negative consequence or sanction inflicted on it is because it did something “it was not supposed to do”. The Catholic Church, as I recall from CCD classes, believes that the Church itself (as opposed to the men who run it) can not sin, that is, it is holy and sinless and anything it does that seems wrong is a bad consequence of sinful men but is not a sin of the Church itself. In similar manner, this small group seems to believe that it can never be blamed for any negative thing that happens to it and that it is a moral failing of everyone else if for any reason anyone else acts against them as an entity. They can not, in their hearts, as members of this group do wrong.

    They will eventually be taught differently.

  273. utu says:
    @AnotherDad

    “simply a sociological observation/question: Do Antifa people tend to be notably ugly?” – Do you believe that this was a sincere question driven by genuine curiosity? What attempt was made to evaluate, justify, prove this hypothesis? One (n=1) police mug shot? Perhaps Anonymous[129] was correct that this post by Steve Sailer had nothing to do with scientific or even pseudo-scientific curiosity. But rather it was an emotional outburst that satisfied Steve Sailer’s psychological need to compensate his anger and frustration with his ideological opponents, the Antifa people who on the social and propaganda battlefront are orders of magnitude more successful than he is. So objectifying them as HBD specimen was de facto ad hominem denigration.

    But obviously one could try to find some objective measure of how ugly various groups like Antifa, Neo-nazis, HBDers and so on are. I am sure there is a rich literature on the methodologies but one has to go back to before 1945.

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @Kibernetika
    , @AnotherDad
  274. anon[360] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    secret string-pullers behind the scene,

    They’re allowed to organize out in the open with the assistance of social media. The feds additionally avoid prosecuting them, which emboldens them.

    Antifa look like losers to me.

    Probably a combination of chromosomal abnormalities (autism), unusually high estrogen levels paired with a semi-functional Y-Chromosome (weird facial structures), cognitive and emotional distress alleles.

    Many of them are also cat people: https://www.sciencealert.com/mind-altering-cat-parasite-linked-to-schizophrenia-in-largest-study-yet

  275. hhsiii says:
    @Johnnie Tumbleweed

    I suspect that’s why Bill Walton’s career was cut short by injuries. He was for a brief period maybe a top 10 of all time at his peak.

  276. 216 says:

    Glorifying Violence

  277. donut says:
    @Lot

    No one looks their best in a mug shot except maybe Murry “The Camel” Humphries .

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
  278. utu says:
    @Clifford Brown

    “This whole thing is an op.” – It looks like. Antifa is an important subcontractor. Black looters driving from one store to another store in better sections of cities also could be steered by some external coordination.

    To jump start riots in the US is very easy. Focus media on killings by police (in Russian ‘podgotovka’). There are about 20 killings by police every week. About eight of them are Blacks. Pick the most egregious one that fits your planned narrative. Get some provocateurs on the scene. Antifa can always be counted on. They have funding that pays for their transportation and food and lodging. Few guys can start breaking windows and setting fires. Then if your objective is to help Trump (*) you have to hope for assassinations of police officers to pop up in different parts of the country or you can arrange the assassinations as well though it would be much more expensive but still very doable. If your objective is to help the anti-Trump forces get more civilians killed. If you want to help China keep it dragging as longs as possible so the anti-China ‘podgotovka’ that began in January related to the Covid-19 and the Chinese culpability falls off the agenda and public memory.

    Do DNC or RNC know what is going on? Are they behind it? Not necessarily. Did DNC or RNC know that Trump was favored by the deep Deep State candidate in 2016? They might be just as helpless witnesses of what is happening as we are. The events can be steered and precipitated on much deeper level of the Deep State where nobody is talking. To succeed you must have media and know how to manipulate media’s biases and proclivities and occasionally directly suppress stories inconvenient to your narrative. Media manipulate us and Blacks in particular and somebody manipulates media.

    (*) In 2016 Trump was helped by media and BLM when after serval publicized shootings of Blacks assassinations of police officers began to happen. Killing 5 cops in Dallas and 2 in New Orleans were the most well known. The Dallas hit was a pretty professional operation. Police did not try to apprehend the shooter. They blew him up with a bomb robot.

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
  279. What does it mean when I try to reply to “Person X” and instead get the message “cancel reply to Person X”?

    • Replies: @Rob McX
  280. Lot says:
    @Old Palo Altan

    Trotsky and Stalin both have American granddaughters.

    Trotsky’s is a top NIH neurochem researcher, Stalin’s is a Portlandia weirdo.

    Regression to the mean bites AJs the least of all ethnicities.

    Nora Volkow as a teenager in Mexico:

    In her 50s:

    Stalinova:

    To be fair, she was also hot as a teen before becoming a Portland antifa:

    Speaking of Trotsky, Netflix has an interesting 8 part series on Trotsky in Russian, called Trotsky.

    It is not as negative as it should be on him, or Lenin and Stalin, but it was fairly entertaining with a nice mix of drama, battles, elaborate sets and political intrigue. The Lenin supporting actor stole every single scene he was in, and all three looked remarkably close to the actual men, other than getting their relative heights wrong.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
  281. anon[378] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tiny Duck

    TD – your infatuation with white women tells me you are transitioning to be one. I understand how you will get fixed to convert from a tiny penis to a tiny vagina, but how will you transition your skin to be white?

  282. @Paul Jolliffe

    And I thought I was blackpilled.

    Jesus.

  283. @Truth

    That one goes back to early 19th-century France, and Victoria might have been the first to hear it in English. Oh, and it was 40, not 30. When life begins.

  284. Lot says:
    @utu

    “ the Antifa people who on the social and propaganda battlefront are orders of magnitude more successful than he is”

    O rly?

  285. @Hypnotoad666

    Then he had a heart attack triggered by his drug-induced delirium panic. It’s called dying from a drug overdose and bad choices.

    Correct.

    He also appeared to be a low-grade steroid abuser that was in poor circulatory health.

    Some fing, ‘martyr for the cause.’

  286. @Old Palo Altan

    But both Taylor and I were talking about the Bolsheviks circa 1917.

    Wow, you two must be old.

  287. danand says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    “Then he had a heart attack triggered by his drug-induced delirium panic. It’s called dying from a drug overdose and bad choices.”

    Hypnotoad666, spot on, that about sums it up. George had his dreams – Supreme Court Justice, then the NBA, Rapper, Truck Driver; but then like a lot of us, his own actions got in his way. Throw in a world wide virus kicker, and he was finished. Just another tragic figure, who’s actions are going to take a whole lot of good, decent, upstanding, hardworking, people down with him.

    “George Perry Floyd was born in October 1974 in North Carolina, but his mother soon moved him and his siblings to Houston, where they lived in the Cuney Homes housing project in the Third Ward. As a young man, he had big dreams: “When I grow up I want to be a Supreme Court Judge,” he wrote in a second-grade essay. He sprouted to six feet seven inches tall and 250 pounds.

    Floyd graduated from Yates High in 1993 and—dreaming of playing in the NBA—got a basketball scholarship to what is now South Florida State College, but returned home before the year was out. Hawkins said Floyd wasn’t happy in the Sunshine State: “He was like a fish out of water,” she recalls. He enrolled at Texas A&M-Kingsville, where he also played basketball. He ended up dropping out before the end of his sophomore year.

    The next decade was a struggle for Floyd, says Hawkins. “He got into trouble,” she says. “He fell into the things a lot of the guys in the neighborhood were doing.” Floyd was arrested and charged with theft in 1998, and later with drug possession. In 2009, Floyd went to prison after pleading guilty to aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon. He was paroled in 2013, after four years at the Diboll Unit in East Texas.

    Around 2014, Floyd decided to make a fresh start in Minneapolis, where several of his Third Ward friends had gone. “He always tried to do better,” says Hawkins. She ran into Floyd not long before he moved, when he told her his plans. “First thing I told him was, ‘There are no black people up there,’” she says. Floyd was laughing, but Hawkins was worried. “He was a big black guy. If you didn’t know him, you might be intimidated.”

    Floyd got a place in St. Louis Park, a Minneapolis suburb. He told friends back home that he was happy there. He had a fiancée and he was getting ready to start training to drive eighteen-wheelers. Most recently Floyd worked as a bouncer at Conga Latin Bistro, a restaurant and club where rappers and techno artists performed, though he had told the owner, Jovanni Thunstrom, that he was looking for another job after the restaurant and venue was closed because of the pandemic.”

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  288. BenKenobi says:
    @128

    ISIS is defeated and Assad still leads Syria.

    You make an excellent case.

    • Agree: Redman
  289. BenKenobi says:
    @SomeoneOutHere

    Agreed. What a waste of such a magnificent pair.

  290. Lagertha says:

    ‘funny looking,’ hahaaaa! Yes! Maybe some of those angry pale guys with no muscles (but plenty of tattoos) are not so ugly. But, the women…so ugly. Shapeless fatties or weird skinny storks…and, very, very white people – no muscle tone! These are not your Hawaiian Tropic young women – so many of them, with eye glasses, and, trying to look/dress as ugly as possible.

    Notice: I am talking about white rioters, not black. But, privileged white people, especially women, are fair game for me to attack with a vengeance. I especially hate white, liberal, college-educated women. And, I despise my peers: suburban white women who are Progressives. Van Jones was correct that the Hillary supporting ww are actually, hidden racists…so obvious as they chose to live in ‘whitey town’ instead of more integrated/diverse towns.

    My mother was the most gorgeous woman (graduate degree at 21!) who rocked 75 years (she needed glasses at 10) with exceptionally sexy/mod/glam eyeglasses – I know; I just went thru an entire box of her prescription glasses. I saved a few for an art project.

    Antifa people are not the “beautiful people” – kinda’ a duh.

  291. @Bardon Kaldian

    Or maybe spent some time in Fargo.

  292. moshe says:

    I’m a little high now so maybe this question will seem silly but to me it seems like an actual worthwhile question. what does George Soros get out of his horrible usage of his money?

    the go-to explanation would be that he’s doing it for his people. He’s causing destruction civil, monetary, etc destruction everywhere that he can because he wants his people to come out on top. The basically he is a Jewish nationalist and this is his contribution to that cause.

    and that would make some sense. If he actually did anything good for the Jews but he spends an inordinate amount of time and money trying to make things bad for Jews. Israel even put up billboards around hungry saying that you’re not an anti-semite for hating George Soros we hate him too. George Soros tries to destroy Israeli society as one of his pet projects but all you really need to know about him is about how he lights up when talking about the early years of the Holocaust when he was a teenager taking the Nazis to all of the Jewish homes so that they can be rounded up and how that was the best time of his life. he actually said that. It was the best time of his life. and I believe him. Heck, none of us knows ourselves weather if we were in his shoes we would become the sort of assholes who would really enjoy the sudden power that we had as the Jew who had been adopted by the Germans and was able to tell on all of his own people and family. but what is telling is the fact that not only was it the best time of his life but he had no qualms smiling win the happy memory and sharing decades later that fact, that this was the happiest time in his life. I understand the fog of war messes with one’s emotions but decades later this is still part of his major truth? so what makes him tick? does he actually just want to see the whole world burn? I mean I get people who want to see the whole world burn if the world has done wrong by them but the world is done right by him he became a billionaire and in fact he’s done wrong to the world his whole life he’s done wrong to the world is whole life and he just seems to have enjoyed that his whole life into continue to enjoy it just that he moved from the purely speculative markets into policies in politics and demographics. it’s an interesting thing. I’m not a religious person and don’t believe in Antichrist nor do I believe that it’s likely that he’s simply an evil person who enjoys doing bad things for the sake of it I mean you could understand doing bad things with currencies so that it’ll make him money but if what he spends that money on turns out just to be doing more bad things then perhaps overthrowing the national order or rather the international order of human society is what he’s really interested in and what he really enjoys. and if so is that based on a philosophy is it based on some form of humanistic theory or is it simply something that he enjoys ?

    if we can get to the bottom of what he believes then I think it would speak quite loudly to all of the foot soldiers who make their living off of him that they are in a self-defeating endeavor being funded and owned buy a man with very different values than yourself.

    I doubt whether very many men have as their primary value the overthrow of established civilization, weather for one cause or for another and pretty much everybody in antifa if they sat down to talk about it for 10 minutes would realize that they don’t want that either. he would have to hire mercenaries and mercenaries can at most invade but they can’t crumble a country from within. but before we step into this second step of letting people know what he’s all about I think it would be worth really letting go of preconceived notions and delving deeply in our own minds based on what knowledge we have of George as to what he really wants what is his motivation for what he’s doing? if we can answer that honestly then I think we have a pretty powerful talking point.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  293. e says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    She looks like a transsexual, male to female.

  294. J.Ross says:
    @RichardTaylor

    Lenin, Krupskaya, and Stalin were all movie star gorgeous when young; there’s a picture of young Lenin which closely resembles Leonardo deCaprio.
    A lot of early lower-level Bolsheviks had wierd injuries and classic-gangster-ugly mugs because they embraced criminals for personnel and robbed banks for funding. There was a guy whose name escapes me but whose picture could have been “the gangster at the Edward G Robinson Scarface’s elbow,” low level guy, a bank robber and burglar with some history of violence. He ended up in sone horrifyingly unearned and comfortable position for his brief retirement because in his wilder youth his adventures had served the Revolution. Communists love street criminals, whom they consider to be victims of the bourgeoisie as well as the best weapon to threaten bourgeois comfort, and when Beria was finally able to begin to mass-release people from the gulag he put violent criminals well ahead of politicals.

    • Replies: @Ray P
  295. anonn says:
    @AnotherDad

    Where’s the proof? Every time I’ve seen these claims the only “evidence” proffered are laughably obvious forgeries like the above.

    When after Charlottesville the mainstream centrist media wanted to scare and distract people they lied about a handful of weird teenagers being some sort of well-organized Nazi guerrilla unit. The right wing media is doing the same here, looking at some weird teenagers’ twitter profiles and just running with it. Antifa is not a real thing and anyone who says differently is probably stealing something from you.

  296. @utu

    Right , there is already a built in narrative with Black Lives Matter. Find the right video and push it petal to the metal. Blacks will be on board automatically out of ethnic narcissism. White kids are completely brainwashed by the education system and the media to worship Black Lives Matter. BLM is the new literal slave religion ideology to overthrow the American Empire. The youth of all races worship Black Lives and hate everything White. This is the new Christianity and the adherents are fanatical. We are watching a new religion being born (it’s too big for a cult) and they are out for redemption. Social media is the new MK ULTRA for the intelligence agencies and they are about to drop the hammer.

  297. e says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I’ve always thought she looks like a male to female transsexual.

  298. martin_2 says:
    @Anonymous

    “Facts are either true or false based on the validity of their intrinsec axioms and whether the logical conclusions of the arguments follow from the validity of the intrinsec premises. ”

    This seems to be wrong or at the very least incomplete.

    For a start it makes no sense to talk of a “false fact”. Statements are true or false, not facts. Facts “exist”. The existence of a fact is what makes a statement true.

    But my main point is that in almost all cases statements (not facts) are true or false according to whether they correspond to facts, not according to whether those statements can be derived in some formal system involving axioms and theorems. Unless you are talking about some abstract realm such as topology or predicate logic. So far as I know Mr Sailer has never expressed any opinion on Euclidean or non-Euclidean geometry.

  299. @utu

    But obviously one could try to find some objective measure of how ugly various groups like Antifa, Neo-nazis, HBDers and so on are. I am sure there is a rich literature on the methodologies but one has to go back to before 1945.

    And you you’ve succeeded in reducing it down to objectively perceived skin color.

    • Disagree: utu
  300. @Captain Mccluskey

    Holy shite, is that Ade Edmundson?

  301. Rapparee says:
    @Jake

    I’ve seen Antifa thugs up close and personal, and it was quite clear to me in their presence that many, if not most, were under strong demonic influence. Their hideous fashion sense and predilection for grotesque piercings and tattoos reflects this- they intentionally uglify themselves to beauty of God’s creation.

    • Agree: Malla
  302. Lagertha says:
    @Inquiring Mind

    I think, Gretchen (such an awful name – retching, grouchy) was chosen because of her looks – she is attractive, but not beautiful. She’s gonna be ancient history in a few years. She is just a Karen who happens to be a Democrat. Van Jones is correct about these Hillary clones.

  303. Thomas says:
    @Old and Grumpy

    However what is with the left eye? Both Jeff Besos and his concubine recently started sporting the left eyed squint, so it is definitely not an income thing. Odd.

    Illuminati.

  304. Anonymous[267] • Disclaimer says:

    A deep state hypothesis

  305. Thomas says:

    Antifa doesn’t lift. It’s safe to say they weren’t the kids who ever played competitive sports of any kind.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  306. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Clifford Brown

    Except it can only end in Civil War to the death. The only endpoint for the religion is Blacks enslave Whites. Think most White people will happily slaughter every Black person on the planet to keep their house and car?

    Demands are no police and White people hand over everything to Blacks.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    , @Lagertha
  307. Anon[319] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross

    I would very much appreciate a link to the source.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  308. @Dave Pinsen

    Frey’s wife is pretty.

    Stylish more than pretty. Looks like she might have a nice body.

  309. Thomas says:
    @Old Palo Altan

    Gavin McInnes did a typology of Antifa on his podcast awhile back. The street urchins are just the lowest level.

  310. @Dieter Kief

    Dieter,

    I remember another quote from Nikolas Cusanus that goes like this: God is an intelligible circle, whose center is everywhere, and whose circumference is nowhere. Your mystical thought for the day…

    And do think seriously about participating in that choir; the ancient Greeks were quite correct in their view that making music was an important element in a fully realized human life.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  311. Anon[319] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/may/28/questions-raised-over-hydroxychloroquine-study-which-caused-who-to-halt-trials-for-covid-19

    https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2020/05/24/doubts-about-that-article-claiming-that-hydroxychloroquine-chloroquine-is-killing-people/

    HCQ = vs. virus
    Antiinflamatories/anticoagulants = vs. inflammation. Modern medicine has been saying for past 20 years “inflammation” is the mother of all future illness.. witness “gut health” trend. This virus causes inflammation, particularly vascular.

    https://elemental.medium.com/coronavirus-may-be-a-blood-vessel-disease-which-explains-everything-2c4032481ab2

  312. slumber_j says:
    @Fun

    What if you just eat real food, including some meat or at least animal products as the human body demands? “The legion of fat, high cholesterol, pre-diabetic people who think ketchup is a vegetable” strikes me as an overweight straw man with bad habits, no?

    • Agree: Cloudbuster
  313. Alfa158 says:
    @Anonymous

    Idiot, you can’t even spell intrinsic correctly, what are you the new Tiny Duck?

  314. Kronos says:
    @Thomas

    Well, not the ones that lived…

  315. anon[306] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm

    There is, of course, a large overlap between Antifa and WN,

  316. Bardeaux says:

    From what I see, many of the mugshots appear to be we used to call “crusties”: dirty punk kids who lived in squats or the streets. 25 years ago, the punk/anarchist squats in Philly were filled with runaways from bad blue-collar or poor families along with a few middle-class misfits on safari. The larger scene of house parties and shows attracted bougee Penn kids and wannabe revolutionaries who were there for the scenery but weren’t committed to an anarchist lifestyle. There were always some old hippies around acting as parent figures. Today, with real estate values through the roof and vacant houses and lofts vanishing from most big cities, I can’t imagine where the crusties are living.

  317. @Mr. Anon

    In a lot of her pictures she looks like a wax-works figure. I don’t know if it’s her makeup or the lighting.

    The Governor appears to have a thick layer of makeup on her cheeks. Her forehead seems immobile, probably because of Botox injections.

  318. anon[462] • Disclaimer says:

    The worst riots in London’s history were the Gordon Riots, which occurred in 1780 (my great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather, who was half Black and half Scottish, participated). The reason these riots got so out of hand was that London did not have a police force. It wasn’t until the army was deployed that peace was restored. The riots prompted proposals for a police force, but these proposals were controversial because police were perceived as “absolutist’ and therefore un-english.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Riots

    So now we have come full circle, where the Floyd riots of 2020 are prompting proposals to abolish the police force.

  319. Kyle says:
    @AnotherGuessModel

    that isn’t a lack of braces, those are meth teeth.

  320. Jake says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Very few street fighter Antifa people are Jews. A very large percentage of the money that props up Antifa for training and supplies and travel and bail is from Jews.

  321. @Steve Sailer

    Antifa is a trojan horse. It literally doesn’t exist and everyone wears masks. Thus, it is the perfect front for the spooks. Antifa has real value in recruiting the youth online and in infiltrating the DNC and especially the DSA.

    Yes, most of Antifa are degenerate soy vegan rejects, but you have to understand that the CIA has been running an Antifa pipeline to Syria for years to support the YPG in Syria as a anarcho socialist militia against Assad and Russia. Being in YPG and fighting for the “autonomous zone” of Rojava was the all rage on certain Antifa forums and Antifa affiliated bars in Brooklyn and the West Coast. Basically, a great way to get laid in Bushwick or Oakland.

    Most of these people are worse than useless LARPers.

    https://twitter.com/IRPGF/status/889445690656608256/photo/1

    But it also attracted disaffected American and Western trained soldiers who served in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    So the CIA played the game with the weirdos, but it also did invest some time and money in Americans, especially vets, who could actually help the insurgency. The prophecy of revolution, woe to thee, be fearful of disaffected white men with skills.

    YPG was supposed to incorporate Western soldiers for the Syrian civil war, but Old Man Trump famously pulled the plug. Much to my appreciation.

    I have no direct evidence, but it is possible that much of the sophisticated operation carried out in the current insurrection are from CIA trained Americans from the YPG pipeline. Ironic blowback that we have experienced time and TIME again from such hits as ISIS and Al Quaeda.

    The short story. The American economy and society do not provide enough opportunity for smart skilled white men. Since being right wing is completely taboo, some become anarchist and the CIA has been running a long term program to train the small percentage of them who show any promise in insurgency.

    Some of these trained and skillful Antifa may be involved in our current adventure.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  322. Jake says:
    @Clifford Brown

    The American Empire is the Anglo-Zionist Empire.

  323. @Anonymous

    Very well, but not only it’s not Derbyshire suggesting others are ugly here, but as much as you can find him disagreeable, I don’t recall him saying he was anything but (considered) physically unattractive, even when he was younger. The one asking if antifa types are uglier than average is Sailer, who might or might not be honest about currently spending much of his time in a closet, but who does appear to be rather unaware of how attractive the average American is (not a suggestion Americans are any uglier than other peoples) compared to the people he’s mostly around, which I suspect are mostly middle-to-upper class college graduates like himself and unlike the average American, or even the average white American. Sailer probably doesn’t spend much time with people like the McMichaels. Yet, and I think you will agree, I don’t remember him asking if the average Trump supporter or white nationalist or white supremacist tends to be quite ugly. Ugly next to what?

  324. newrouter says:
    @obwandiyag

    Go away African! Leave us alone.

  325. Polynikes says:

    Anti-immigration King loses in Iowa. What’s up with that Iowa?

  326. @Colin Wright

    So here’s a movement advocating violent revolution again. How heavily represented are Jews?

    My guess is that Jews are 0.72% of Antifa.

    Don’t look for Jews in your samvich.

  327. @Clifford Brown

    If true, I’d die laughing. CIA once again succeeding in creating our worst enemies – and you’d think they were on our side.

  328. I agree that Antifa as some lean, mean, organized force, is bullshit.

    You’ve just got a lot of angry blacks, angry disaffected whites, and black kids who aren’t angry but who want free shit and to fuck things up for fun out there. They are hard to control. Cops aren’t trained for this.

    If we could just kill a few, things would simmer down pretty quickly. But we can’t.

    • Replies: @Malla
  329. Kyle says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Your rationalization hamster is running his little heart out.

  330. Kyle says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Bullshit. Drug induced delerium panic? Bullshit. The cop sat on his neck until he died. Really showd’em who’s boss.

    • Replies: @Redman
  331. Is there a standard Sailer Ugliness Scale (SUS) to reference?

    Where, for example, does Dave Pinsen rank?

    (Pretty high from what I’ve seen. He is one handsome SOB.)

  332. Escher says:

    For an example of how the media takes the most obscure and marginal bunch of (to be frank) losers and hypes them up as the next coming of Hitler’s legions, see this: Total Hatchet Job

    https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/documenting-hate-new-american-nazis/

    Wouldn’t hold my breath on them spending even 10% of this effort on studying the Antifa goons.

  333. Escher says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Some of the Antifa-led protests look quite professionally organized to me.
    For sure their leadership has had training.

  334. Lurker says:

    I understand the term is – ‘spiteful mutants’.

  335. Lurker says:
    @Altai_2

    Etsy is joining the fray:

  336. anon[328] • Disclaimer says:

    Think of the kid that never got picked, or even considered, for basketball. The loser that failed high school. The girls just never appreciated his video skills, and even the pansexual route isn’t getting him much. Now this unflushed turd, who mommy told him is handsome, is able to vent his/her/it frustrations on the big, bad police, or The Man that owns a life that cannot be afforded by that part time job at the mall. In other words, the useful idiot of the modern Communist movement. The Anarchist, who was just as recognizable to our turn of the century brethren. The difference then is that we had men with balls of steel in positions of power, instead of the idiocrisy that now governs. That is why they hate Trump. An alpha male in the White House is an affront the Revenge of the Nerds that has dominated our ‘elites’ since Bush was neutered. Our enemy is the weak, and the tool of evil is our compassion and desire to live a good life unhindered. As the Greeks pointed out, if we ignore politics, we allow ourselves to be ruled by fools, and worse.

  337. @128

    Now, now, I know John Derbyshire and he is a tall, well-proportioned, and distinguished-looking man. He has a beautiful wife many years his junior.

  338. @Old Palo Altan

    Want to see handsome human beings?
    Go to Youtube and search “Hitler Youth”.

    Triumph of the Will sure came off as one big fagfest, with Cher as director rather than star.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  339. @anonymous

    Bree Olson

    Don’t mistake slutty-looking for healthy -looking. Nothing healthy about a lifestyle that exposes you to a new STD every week.

  340. @utu

    utu, you’ve chosen to be obtuse. Fine.

    It’s an interesting–not earth shatteringly interesting, but interesting–sociological question. There are lots of them. Steve raises these sorts of questions all the time and has made some of them interesting little fun nuggets of truth about the world around us. (If that bores you, why are you here?)

    And as to this idea that Steve is trying to claim that his ideological enemies are ugly … the man lives over the hill from Hollyweird.

  341. nebulafox says:
    @UK

    Homer is fascinating because he was the Greek Dark Ages version of a historian. He-or they-were preserving, as best they could, the memories of a dimly remembered golden age of heroes where things were better, before the civilizational collapse, in an age without literacy.

    Naturally, if you transmit knowledge orally for 400 years, the memories might diverge a little from what actually happened. The same thing interestingly occurs over a much shorter time-scale with the rise of Islam. Except for the Qu’ran, the traditional account is based off the oral tales that Arab bards would pass down.

  342. Lurker says:
    @Anon

    Have the feds planned for this?

    As in stopping them? Or laying on free transport?

  343. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Unlike Cher, Leni Riefenstahl was never mistaken for a hooker.

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  344. nebulafox says:

    >Most far-right protesters look like guys who enjoyed sports in high school but have since gained a lot of weight.

    IMO, the truly ugly dudes on the Right tend to be GOP hacks. Just look at Karl Rove.

  345. @Old and Grumpy

    Not just meth, they need to get some sunshine. They don’t go outside and tend to be ghastly pale. Antifa: the whitest of the whites.

  346. anon[462] • Disclaimer says:

    Covid:
    Flatten the curve!

    Riots:
    Flatten the curb!

  347. @Hypnotoad666

    I think this is probably the gist of it. But heck if i know.

    I’ll be genuinely interesting in seeing the fully body cam footage–if they’ve got it. One hopes the MPD has all these on body cams for all calls and is just doing this same stupid bureaucratic nonsense we see again and again of treating the footage like a state secret.

    • Replies: @Redman
  348. @Clifford Brown

    White privilege has replaced original sin.

    Puritanism (with a large side of Trotskyism) is at the root of this.

  349. @Clifford Brown

    Agree wholeheartedly. Too much white and/or corporate involvement, and the tactics/PR are far too organized, for it not to be some type of color Revolution at home.

    Question is: is the state department responsible? Or someone else?

    The whole situation is honestly confusing me.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  350. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    Hmmmm….

    This seems a bit “on the nose,” that is, contrived, but these aren’t altogether authentic people to begin with, so I dunno…

  351. @danand

    Floyd got a place in St. Louis Park, a Minneapolis suburb.

    St Jewish Park? The Coens’ and Franken’s hometown?

    Most recently Floyd worked as a bouncer at Conga Latin Bistro

    Did he ever work the same shift as the cop who genuflected on him? Reports aren’t saying.

    Why is a cop moonlighting as a bouncer, anyway? Isn’t he in a tough union? What have we heard from them about this?

  352. @Lurker

    Gee, another Jew giving me a tedious lecture that the nation my ancestors built is oh so terrible and and oppressive.

    And yet … they never leave. Or leave us alone.

    Hey, let’s just go our separate ways and absent our deplorable asses you noble Jews can tikkun olam up this paradise where the criminal justice doesn’t “target Black Americans” and were black and brown communities aren’t “silenced at the polls”.

    • Agree: William Badwhite
  353. @Clifford Brown

    Find the right video and push it petal to the metal.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
  354. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    Manhattan negroes being cowardly and horrible. Seems the police are getting more ass-kicky, finally.

  355. Grumpy says:

    Steve King, one of the few elected advocates for stronger immigration law, has just lost in the Republican primary for his Iowa seat in Congress. His own party turned against him.

  356. Whiskey says: • Website

    What is the end game? In front of Eric Garcetti’s Mayor Mansion in Hancock Park are thousands of demonstrators, mostly White, mostly average looking, demanding:

    An End to the LAPD.
    Taking money from White people and giving it to Blacks (reparations).

    Neither of those are realistic. Garcetti is not going to disband the LAPD. Its a five year old kid’s demand. Same with reparations for slavery. They won’t benefit from either so this is their Joker burn it all down moment. They have no future, they know it, and are working out a corporate approved rebellion.

    So where is the end point?

    Blood. A lot of it.

    It ends with first the suburbs being sacked and lots and lots of desperate homeowners willing to kill and kill and kill to keep their house not on fire (they’ll have one person in the family volunteer knowing they face life in prison). And since they know this, there will be neither mercy nor measure in the killing. The rioters will be slaughtered, there are a lot of desperate White dudes figuring prison beats homelessness.

    Then, the Malibu mansions in flames and in NYC, the oligarch’s penthouse towers. That’s why non Fredo Cuomo is threatening to remove de Blasio. Serious people who have governors killed are threatening him. De Blasio is stupid and high on his own supply to realize that Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, China etc. are filled with serious people who are quite capable of slotting mayors and governors if their stash of $200 million real estate goes up in smoke.

    Really, what is the end point? Cops have disappeared, doing the minimum possible having gotten the message — don’t arrest Blacks. The National Guard will dither run by dithering governors. Trump is powerless and ignored, no one believes he can punish any enemy or reward any friend. Rivers of Blood sounds about right.

    Rivers of Blood.

  357. @Gordo

    Didn’t Dutton and Woodley write on this, dysgenic elements surviving now and making up the ugly deranged hard left?

    I think they have a video presentation on the subject on CensorTube. Then there’s this:

    • Thanks: BB753
  358. Definitely low on the SSH. Bullied at school. Every social justice NGO in the country has a guy like this on board. Can quote obscure Trotskyists. Has an email address like [email protected] so he can demonstrate command of esoteric topics. White knights. Attractive to daughters of wealthy Indian industrialists rebelling against daddy while studying in the USA.

  359. @Lurker

    They are just one of many.

    Everyone from Amazon down is falling over themselves to express solidarity with people who want them dead. If you could be bothered to look it up, I’d bet you’d find the owners of more thank half the stores looted on Fifth Avenue the other night had already made the right noises on Instagram. They have diversity and inclusion officers, employ ‘diverse’ models, celebrate the Holy Months and Days, and donate to the right causes.

    Etsy is a drop in the bucket.

    [I’m not even going to comment on the (((Silverman))) thing.]

  360. If you’re in need of a refreshing OT break from all this coronoriot business, check out the horn of an extinct aurochs found by Welsh fishermen:

    Huge 5,000-year-old horn belonged to now-extinct auroch

    THE INCREDIBLE MOMENT WELSH FISHERMEN DISCOVER A GIANT AUROCHS HORN IN THE SEVERN ESTUARY

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
  361. @Abelard Lindsey

    BTW, the 60’s hippies and protesters were remarkably ugly as well.

    I’m not too sure about that. Not all of them, at any rate.

  362. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    People converting over to veganism/vegetarianism once past their teens seem to have a stretch of time when they look and feel good, then the nutritional deficit sets in. Humans can exist but not really thrive on purely plant based diets, and even that requires a lot of specific selective eating, for long term success.

    Most famous vegans are obviously a little off.

    Being raised vegan since birth or infancy seems to have some negative effects but some seem to adapt. A lot of Seventh Day Adventists are vegetarians and looking at a 7DA congregation most do not have the extreme soyboy look.

    People who have been vegan for a fair amount of time often drift away and gradually improve, but it takes time for the body to be able to properly handle good portions of meat, especially beef.

    Most people who go vegan, go back and no one ever seems to go back again.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
  363. Rob McX says:
    @Paul Mendez

    The box where you write your reply is below the cancel button.

  364. @Reg Cæsar

    Someday iSteve will do a companion series of articles on the distorting effects of wide-angle lenses, to the recent ones on telephoto lenses and crowds.

    But yes, that’s an impressive horn. Some folks are trying to breed Auroch like cattle and reintroduce them to Europe.

    https://rewildingeurope.com/rewilding-in-action/wildlife-comeback/tauros/

  365. Altai_2 says:
    @Clifford Brown

    Then they miscalculated because the burning buildings don’t hurt Trump, they help him.

  366. Anonymous[279] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Is Steve ugly, or “interesting looking”? My vote is interesting looking. He has pretty eyes. Derbyshire looks like Postman Pat, but I don’t think he’s that ugly for a crochety old man. Also, he has a pretty, younger wife who seems to love him a lot, so why would he care how anyone else thinks he looks?

  367. Anon[106] • Disclaimer says:

    Talk about a pair of guys who fit The Stereotype. These two are the typical Democratic voter in this day and age.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1267994213112623104

    Here’s a huge mob trying to break into Gracie Mansion. You think they’re there to say hello to their pal, the mayor’s daughter? You think they just want to ask for a drink and use the bathroom?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/mahler_laura/status/1267939887577280513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1267939887577280513&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheconservativetreehouse.com%2F2020%2F06%2F02%2Fanger-games-night-7-tuesday-tussles-open-discussion-thread%2F

  368. Anonymous[279] • Disclaimer says:
    @benjaminl

    Post Malone’s whole schtick is that he is a rich and famous rapper who looks and acts like a normal bro.

  369. Neoconned says:
    @McFly

    Like w any groups you get diversity of looks.

    I assume it’s sort of like the hippie movement….people aren’t religious as they once were so they look for a secular political religion to fill that empty hole where God once was.

    I dunno, that would explain their fanaticism and zeal….

    Not connected enough to patronage groups to get free sh-t but not dirt poor enough to be on the streets….

  370. @tryin' to get along

    the Flint War Council was a watershed in American leftism.

    Flint has been an over-achiever in both the building of America and in its utter collapse. Even more than Detriot, Flint is post apocalyptic reality for the rest of you.

    The HBD Mitten leads the way!

  371. Broadsman says:

    This should be a question that a review of the the FBI dossiers on these people should be able to answer.

    Wait, you mean the FBI does NOT have dossiers on the Antifa members yet?

    What have Chris Wray and his predecessors for the last ten years been doing?

    Looks to me that paying for campaign stories on fake Russians and wielding a black marker for redactions have been their primary activities using taxpayers’ moneys.

    Seriously,my guess is that the behind the scenes leadership are more attractive while the aspirant front line soldiers are ugly and want to prove themselves so they could be accepted in the cool kids leadership group.

    Just like high school or in Hollywood where the Communists used party membership as entree into attractive social circles.

  372. Lugash says:
    @LondonBob

    Correct. Also the distinctive purple respirator.

  373. Anon[106] • Disclaimer says:

    Twitter claims some conservative guy dressed up like a protester, and put Make America Great Again bumper stickers on the protesters’ cars. When the protesters came back, some of them smashed up the cars.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/OmarMKhateeb/status/1268025896838950912

    • Thanks: danand
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  374. Lagertha says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Steel Magnolia…not quite…poor energy!

  375. Lagertha says:

    Tonight, is the final night of The Stupids…it just is.

    Energy is done. And, no one gives a shit about these people! They should just commit suicide – it would be beneficial to everyone today. No need for neurotic white people walking amongst us – just off yourself!! You need to off yourself for the good of diversity. You are a useless eater!

    • Replies: @Lagertha
  376. Nodwink says:

    The Australians killed fighting Daesh for the YPG look like movie stars:

    https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBhZ3Y7.img?h=400&w=267&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=310&y=447

  377. Altai_2 says:

    New trending Hashtag that doesn’t hide it anymore. #TrumpOut2020. They’ve turned this into a social media driven colour revolution. On the eve of a democratic election no less. No reason to leave anything to chance I suppose.

    Ironic since the whole ‘epidemic’ of black men killed by police for no reason was started by the operator of a Palestinian children’s charity who was inspired by the revolution in Egypt and social media’s role there (This was before Twitter went ‘woke’ and was considered anything other than a political platform in the West there hadn’t yet been a US election where the big platforms like Facebook and Twitter had significant penetration) who started the Change.org petition about the Trayvon Martin shooting shared over social media that turned it into a national story.

    Now it’s all being used to shut down any deviation from neocon foreign policy. If this goes through there will never, ever be any Trumps or Tulsi Gabbards ever again.

  378. nebulafox says:
    @PiltdownMan

    IMO, Americans have just become uglier in general over the past 50 years. I’m sure the obesity epidemic is part of why, but I think there’s more to it than that. People also just don’t take pride in how they look anymore: men or women. What else explains shopping in sagging pajamas?

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
  379. @Anonymous

    About a third of Indians are vegetarian (not vegan) and the rest, while they are meat eaters, consume only about an ounce of meat a week, on average. And the Indian military, which has a long history of battle honors, includes many of those Indian vegetarians.

    As you say, being used to it from the time a person is weaned is probably what makes it feasible. It may also help to be part of a vegetarian culture, where the dishes are not ersatz, but evolved over time and natural to the mileu. I don’t know too much about it, but it seems to me that vegans are at a considerable nutritional disadvantage to vegetarians, who get animal source protein and other nutrients through their consumption of dairy products, and, in some cases, eggs.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  380. @anonymous

    Somehow I ended up with a mutual follow on Twitter who, if her picture is accurate, is a stunning blonde in her thirties who is also intimately involved with at least the police abolition movement and probably more.

    Posts some interesting things interspersed with the usual black bullies common in those circles.

  381. @Anon

    They were Keep America Great stickers. You could rule some people up at a Trump rally with those too.

  382. Broglepup says:

    I know people who know that sort. They have working class parents and working class jobs. What they don’t have is the “accumulate overtime” work ethic that is key to achieving status in the working class. So, fundamentally, they are low-status members of the working class. Many of them fell for the boomer tale of “it doesn’t matter what degree you get, any degree is a ticket to prosperity”. I (younger gen-X) heard that line so many times growing up. So these working class kids went to art school. Turns out that the world isn’t willing to hire every artist that an art school can churn out.

    Antifa definitely aren’t middle class. Those are the SWPLs.

  383. @PiltdownMan

    Grace was glowing at Woodstock.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
  384. Pericles says:
    @Anonymous

    Oh no, it’s a veiled insult! Safe space, safe space! Get away from us, you monsters!

  385. “Frey isn’t Antifa, but he’s slightly Antifa-adjacent. He’s kind of the golden boy version”

    I know ethnic realism is not often practiced on this race realist site but could it be worth mentioning that “golden boy-Antifa adjacent” Jacob Frey is Jewish? I don’t know jack about who is actually behind the masks but I seem to remember that the Antifa leader who was unmasked during the somewhat violent protests in Washington at Trump’s inaugural was Jewish. Jews don’t do violence here or at least haven’t since the Weatherman but could it be that at least some really young Jews are turning in that direction? There certainly is a Jewish tradition for this in Russia via Bolshevism and of course among our greatest allies in Palestine. Ever curious

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  386. Rob says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I sometimes wonder if Trump has a developmental disorder. He’s not stupid, at least he wasn’t until recently. He went from politically zero to President, but has done a very poor job as President. He could have reforged the Republican Party into whatever Canidate Trump wanted. Instead, he’s governed like a mildly retarded JEB Bush. Trumpism will not outlive Trump. On the other hand, I doubt Trump cares about what happens after he’s out of office or dead.

    Then he does something politically brilliant like that. Tweeting that Democratic governors should deploy the National Guard! You know what they can’t do now? Deploy the National Guard. If they do, that means they did what Trump said, and their constituents will never forgive them. But if they don’t get a handle on these mostly peaceful riots, especially if the savages move on areas with good schools, their taxpayers will never forgive them. Rock and hard place. From a single tweet.

    I remember after the blacks in LA rioted in ‘92(?), Congress was quick to pass spending to rebuild the areas the blacks destroyed. If I remember correctly, at least.

    I cannot picture anything like that happening with the Floyd Fiestas. The Republicans in Congress will not dedicate billions to rebuild what blacks and their enablers destroyed. Can you see McConnell caring. Probably he’d do it if his alien wife’s family got a large contract. But in general, the partisan divide is too large. Would Trump’s White House spend political capital to help black and blue areas? It has been a long time since whites were ethnically cleansed from cities they built. How many suburban whites think of the local big black city as being ‘theirs’?

    Finally, blue politicians and media have been tilling the soil and planting seeds of black rage against police specifically and whites generally. It’s harvest time, and I can’t see why conservative whites should feel responsible for what blue politicians in black cities in the bluest states have driven their blacks to do.

    Why should people in red states, or even red suburbs of inky blue cities pay for what the diversity did to themselves? Minneapolis gets the diversity dividend from their non-whites, surely the population of Mineapolis is capable of rebuilding the city, right? I mean, blacks live in cities, so they can maintain them, right?

    Wow, that was a pretty long rant from what I wanted to say, which is that Trump has really put blue politicians in a bind.

    • Replies: @Goddard
  387. @donut

    The best known example might be David Bowie’s mugshot.

  388. Pericles says:
    @Thomm

    There is, of course, a large overlap between Antifa and WN, with many people seamlessly moving from one to the other.

    Lol, the strategic advisor to Minnesota has spoken. Thomm, a reliable idiot.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    , @JMcG
    , @anon
  389. Anon[106] • Disclaimer says:

    The basic problem with socialism is that you don’t try to earn it, you just try to destroy what other people have out of jealous rage.

    I doubt the people below will be able to get a gun in time for the riots this week, but since Antifa (if they aren’t rounded up before the election) will riot again if Trump wins in November, they’ll be well-armed for that chaos when it happens.

    Impressive line for a gun shop on Long Island.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/clarionproject/status/1267832888713555968

    People blocking the way into their neighborhood in Washington State.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/DigitalForests/status/1267277113524133888

    Man kicking looters out of his shop.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/DigitalForests/status/1267516373745491971

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Joe Stalin
  390. @SomeoneOutHere

    Nah, she’s a pretty girl with great curves and beautiful eyes who wears baggy clothes and dies her hair disgusting colors. At some point she’ll emerge from her cocoon and you’ll see.

  391. Pericles says:

    There are also a number of antifa professors, like Professor Bikelock and that ludicrously giraffe-looking angry man. They don’t look so great either. Giraffe man looks like someone out of a Larson cartoon, waiting for the DOTR.

    My impression is there are plenty of antifa among the academic sludge, undergrad, grad and tenured. The community college tier, mostly.

    Finally, we may also consider whether antifa are uglier than they are deranged. ‘Mental health’ issues are quite important to them, and abound. Remember the Latinx Killer, They, for instance.

  392. @Steve Sailer

    Are many Antifa jews?

    Seriously?

    It’s a jewish organization backed by the DNC/ADL/DOJ.

    The bike lock professor is the typical Antifa. Funding is surely from the small hat crew, but they will accept any kind of scum that is willing to join.

    They have tiers and ranks….from hard core druggie criminals to softer soyboys that run when the SHTF.

    Essentially this is the same Bolshevik scum the Germans had to deal with.

    Frey does seem Antifa adjacent and he gave an insipid speech about “400 years of oppression,” and basically justified the riots.

    I do think physical appearance can sometimes be a reflection of character….the Antifa tend to look very twisted.

    Rightwing women are obviously far more attractive than SJW’s……Laura Ingraham, Liz Wheeler, Lana Lokteff, Michelle Malkin…..could go on and on.

    Antifa are not mentally stable individuals so I would not expect them to be physically attractive.

  393. Jack D says:
    @PiltdownMan

    Being vegan and maintaining good nutrition is (theoretically) possible but difficult to accomplish in real life. People who are in general disorganized luzers in the rest of their life are unlikely to have the discipline that would be needed to pull it off.

    By comparison, being vegetarian is a piece of cake – you can get all of the complete protein you need from eggs and dairy products with very little fuss.

    And eating large quantities of meat as is common in the American diet is probably not that healthy. There are many traditional diets that include meat but only in small quantities or on special occasions – originally for reasons of cost but this turns out to be healthy also.

    • Disagree: Chrisnonymous
    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
  394. @Clifford Brown

    If that’s true – and I’m open minded about that – it raises an interesting question of whether Trump is handling it the right way. He appears to be securing DC with the 82nd Airborne and other active duty military and paramilitary forces, but waiting for governors to request military assistance before sending in active duty troops.

    Trump seems to be guessing that the revolutionaries want him to move first, so he’s not. The result of this game of chicken is a tremendous amount of looting, but so far the death toll has been low.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Clifford Brown
  395. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    Meanwhile, black folks LOVE looting the tony gay stores in SOHO, although it seems tone deaf to do so during Gay History Month.

    How would blacks like it if Gays robbed McDonald’s during Black History Month?

  396. @nebulafox

    People also just don’t take pride in how they look anymore: men or women.

    That’s true. Here’s a protest rally from nearly six decades ago.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    , @JimB
    , @Kronos
  397. @Dieter Kief

    Did your neighbor recognize that old song from Tommy? (I always like the Elton John version better.) I hope you do make good use of your beautiful voice, Dieter. It be nice if that Church had old-fashioned hymns and not the Christian Rock. Some of it is good to listen to, mind you, but it’s not for singing along.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  398. @moshe

    You could read what he writes. According to him, he wants an open and pluralistic society no matter the cost. He’s aware that the actual implementations have failed him about three times – the only answer is that the entire world must change.

    He’s megalomaniacal but he does have real goals that his footmen wouldn’t particularly oppose.

  399. anon[462] • Disclaimer says:

    Mugshots of “revolutionaries” form the past tend to look more handsome than today’s simply because black and white photos hide your imperfections.

  400. @Achilles Wannabe

    Eric Clanton is about as Jewish-looking as Eric Clapton.

    • Replies: @Achilles Wannabe
  401. Anonymous[402] • Disclaimer says:

    See: E. Dutton, _How to Judge People by What They Look Like_, Amazon, Free Amazon Prime Kindle book.

    Dutton points out that mutational load produces asymmetry in human faces. That is widely cited as the reason humans find symmetrical faces appealing; avoiding a mate with asymmetrical features tends to result in healthier children.

    Dutton also points out that mutational load is apt to affect the human brain first, as the human brain is quite a complex system. If the mutational load is large enough to produce obvious facial asymmetry (ugliness) then it would be expected to have neurological consequences.

    Dutton then points out that, yes, those who identify with the Left do tend to have facial asymmetries (which can be identified from pictures). He concludes that the Left is the party of mutational load.

    This is not entirely reassuring. The past several decades of research has uncovered quite a bit about heritability, enough to make Dutton’s conjecture plausible. The West is based upon Christianity, which says that all homo sapiens can become good Christians. Experience shows that this is no the case; major populations exist that are non-Christian and won’t become Christian. This experience has been ignored as something temporary, something that would mend itself with time. The US Civil War and the 1960s Civil Rights laws were written on the Christian assumption — “To do what the Almighty would have done if he only knew the facts of the matter”, to paraphrase Mr. Dooley.

    What it the Christian belief that all people may be converted to Christianity is demonstrably false? Christianity has dropped comparable beliefs – Earth-centric cosmology, which was central to the idea that God has created the entire Universe for His precious creatures. But to drop this one would throw the entire question of relations with other Homo Sapiens individuals into radical doubt. The French concept of the “Other” would suddenly become well established biology, and the consequences of that would be unpredictable. In a world armed with biological weapons and nuclear weapons, the consequences might be quite bad. Of course, ignoring biological reality would be (has been?) just as bad or worse.

    As one example: the Civil Rights laws (which are under attack anyway, see C. Caldwell, _The Age of Entitlement_) would come under serious question.

    Something like this happened before during the rise of Islam; attempts to convert Islamic Arabs to Christianity didn’t even slow down the establishment of the first Caliphate. Those interested can look up how Christianity responded at the time.

  402. @Desiderius

    Grace was glowing at Woodstock.

    It was a very hot day. I recall reading that the rain came just in time, a little while after Jefferson Airplane’s set ended, and cooled off the crowd.

  403. jackson says:
    @JimB

    Exactly. Antifa, at least its American incarnation, seems in many ways very similar to the Manson cult. Deranged and delusional losers intent on fomenting a race war. I’m surprised this hasn’t been talked about more.

    • Replies: @S
  404. Rob McX says:
    @PiltdownMan

    And the language is more restrained. You won’t see “St Ignatius High School expresses sympathy” on any pro-BLM banner.

  405. Lurker says:
    @Pericles

    Reliable idiot – and hostile alien.

  406. @Barnard

    I’m not up on all the facts about the truck incident.

    So, the poor driver was just caught on the I-35 and had no choice?

    Was he pulled from the cab of the truck?

    Beaten?

    I can’t find articles.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  407. Pheasant says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    There was Antifa in the 1930s. they are the useful idiots of the jews.

  408. @AnotherDad

    Agree. Shouldn’t deliberately blocking traffic be treated as the crime of unlawful restraint?

  409. JMcG says:
    @Pericles

    Well, imagine moving to India or Pakistan and trying to learn enough about their politics that you could knowledgeably post on whatever the subcontinental version of iSteve. The fact that he can do it at all is amazing.

  410. For those who crowed that ISteve was emotionally compensating for something, something with this post. Please look up and study the concept of satire.

  411. ex-banker says:

    If Washington is Hollywood for ugly people, Antifa is Washington for the really ugly people.

    • LOL: Rob McX
  412. S says:
    @jackson

    Antifa, at least its American incarnation, seems in many ways very similar to the Manson cult. Deranged and delusional losers intent on fomenting a race war.

    In 1969, once the Manson Family’s murderousness had been fully revealed to the world, the Weathermen openly displayed their support and affinity for the ‘Family’ by readily self-identifying with them at a ‘War Council’.

    Interestingly, usually when this is quoted, they often try to soften it’s ugliness and unconcealed hatred by saying Dohrn (somewhat incongruously in the context) called the pregnant Sharon Tate a ‘victim’, when in reality she was called a ‘pig’ in the quote.

    The quote should be left unaltered so that people can judge for themselves.

    In a speech during the December 1969 “War Council” meeting organized by the Weathermen, attended by about 400 people in Flint, Michigan, Dohrn said, “First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they even shoved a fork into the pig Tate’s stomach! Wild!”

    In greeting each other, delegates to the war council often spread their fingers to signify the fork.

    I’m surprised this hasn’t been talked about more.

    Isn’t likely to happen for the same reason there was never any Nuremberg like trials for the Communists after that system’s purported fall 30 years ago, Antifa is a tool of the ‘establishment’, ie ‘the powers that be’, just as Communism was and is.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardine_Dohrn

  413. @Dave Pinsen

    Nah, she’s a pretty girl with great curves and beautiful eyes who wears baggy clothes and dies her hair disgusting colors. At some point she’ll emerge from her cocoon and you’ll see.

    Agree.

    I had no idea who these people were, so i googled this “Billie Eilish” and she looks like a naturally attractive girl who is doing the whole “let’s look ugly” thing.

    This is sad. Young women have a pretty narrow window–15-30–where they look pretty darn good. (And it’s really front loaded the peak varies from girl to girl but is probably 16-22.) Seeing them piss away a bunch of these years involved in some faddish grostesquerie is … grotesque. (And note: this isn’t a boomer thing, i never saw this with my late boomer cohort girls. Comes in with GenX or later.)

    Young women need good guidance to make the most of their time of beauty … but just get terrible advice from “the culture” these days.

    At least this sort of weird hair and ugly makeup is transient. Being at the beach i see truly grotesque tatooing. I see a fair number of now of young moms–who have admirably avoided full bloat and have pleasantish young mom figures … marred by tattoos. A marker of civilizational decay and decline.

  414. Pheasant says:
    @Dieter Kief

    He published one book.

    It helps that his father was one of the richest men in Austria who had acquired his fortune by screwing over the rightful gentile owners.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  415. @Chriscom

    I didn’t believe the left that white nationalist were behind this. There is proof that Europa use Antifa twitter accounts to egg everyone. This dude might be apart of Europa and not Antifa.

  416. Studley says:

    Woody Guthrie is the Founding Father of Antifa. “This Machine kills Fascists”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_machine_kills_fascists

    Nice stuff. Doubt any timeline American musicians put that on their instruments.

    Steve is right. That the folk singer suffered from Huntingdon’s Disease (through no fault of his own but genetics). Proves it.

  417. J.Ross says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    What does this gibberish even mean? I get that mid and late 20th century Americans cynically agreed to pretend that Jewish crime doesn’t exist in exchange for money (a deal not renewed for my generation and those following), and, in support of that pretense (and that deal), demand that the sun be proven to exist every single time it’s brought up with no memory of the last conversation. You are here asking people to believe that the Jewish Revolutionary Spirit never manifested in a million movements over hundreds of years (almost none of which were “Jewish” by population for obvious reasons), which is the same thing as asking us to believe that Jews were cool with being oppressed by Christian governments, which is so ridiculous it does not necessitate a rebuttal.

  418. J.Ross says:
    @Anon

    It looks like a back-of-the-envelope calculation derived from this:
    https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=2228
    About three-quarters of the way down they give about forty percent of arrest homicides as white and thirty for black.

    • Replies: @Anon
  419. J.Ross says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Or, apoliticals who have refused to notice how utterly disastrous the Democrats are deserve a good hard lesson, and it sounds cruel but there’s no other way. This is like when Ivan the Terrible left town and waited for people to demand he return. Not leaving town means a million little b$^#@&$# battles with the boyars.

  420. Goddard says:
    @PiltdownMan

    Wow, Linda Ronstadt was hot.

  421. @anon

    Try crane trucks loaded with pallets of bricks dropping off a pallet at designated locations in multiple cities prior to riots kicking off.

    Any evidence of that?

    • Replies: @anon
  422. @Whiskey

    The kneeling stuff is a clue.

    Black “activists” want white people as slaves–that is what they mean by reparations.

    Their white enablers have a bad case of Stockholm Syndrome.

  423. @Dave Pinsen

    If she continues with the lifestyle of mudsharkery she seems so fond of,she may end up with A I D S before that cocoon ever opens.And even without A I D S that lifestyle alone will bring rapid and serious aging.

  424. Ugly, sure, but these people look like they’d put ground glass in a baby’s bottle.

  425. @Charlotte

    In most of the photos I’ve seen of her, she looks like someone who should be rather attractive, but isn’t.

    Yes, that’s my feeling as well. Gretchen Whitmer reminds me a lot of women I do find attractive within my approximate age group…and yet somehow, not. She’s clearly got the Nordic manjaw thing going on, but there’s more to it than just that. Just looking at her makes me feel vaguely uneasy.

    • Replies: @peterike
    , @Old Palo Altan
  426. @Jack D

    In my experience veganism etc is about control/lack of control. It has similarities to an eating disorder, and very often they have eating disorders in their past.

    People with eating disorders are extremely committed, if not disciplined. in the sense that it is very difficult for them to change their behavior, stop binging and purging, etc.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  427. @S. Anonyia

    Question is: is the state department responsible? Or someone else?

    I think it’s the US Deep State with funding and support from Soros and the CCP.

    That said, not all of the activities are explicitly planned and formally linked. To some degree there is a school of fish/swarm of bees effect occurring.

  428. @The Last Real Calvinist

    OTOH, the odious Valerie Plame lost her primary.

    • Replies: @anon
  429. anon[373] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    The basic problem with socialism is that you don’t try to earn it, you just try to destroy what other people have out of jealous rage.

    Where are all the libertarians now that corporate America is endorsing Black Lives Matter and bailing out these criminals? Socialism works just fine in high IQ, homogeneous countries. Japan, South Korea and most of Europe have universal healthcare; the Nordic countries regularly rate as the happiest places on earth. Libertarian dog-eat-dog societies where people shirk community responsibility ultimately dissolve into ruin. That’s why you’re in this situation. Atomized individual materialists always lose before a crowd of aggressive collectivists. That explains about 90% of your problems. Disunited whites bow before the onslaught because people are only bold in crowds. That’s why your boomer relatives post on Facebook about the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King jr. as they are being attacked for the crime of being white. Surrender is all they know because that’s all they have. If they speak out in their own defense or in their tribe’s defense, they will be attacked because there is no structure available to defend them.

    “Socialism” isn’t the problem here. That’s a cope. With modern America, you’re merely witnessing the end stage of a corrupt philosophy doomed to lose: libertarian philosophy is based on progressive surrender, regardless of how anyone would like to claim otherwise. What mechanism are you people willing to exercise to preserve your libertarian societies? The end result of your philosophy is defeat because it’s based on a contradiction: you want freedom but you aren’t willing to build and occupy the structures that ensure that freedom.

    You surrender the government and its myriad police agencies because “muh democracy.” The end result is that you’re labeled domestic terrorists for your (mostly moderate) opinions and fired and ruined while the FBI coddles actual antifa terrorists. You surrender the media because “muh private industry.” Thus, the immense level of brainwashing we see in society; CNN is out inciting riots against whites and you guys are banned from defending yourselves on social media. You surrender elections because “muh government spending.” Thus, they’ll take away your guns when they get the chance. You surrender your nations through immigration because “muh federalism” and “they’ll pay for our social security” and “borders are bad” (an actual Ron Paul position). Thus, they burn down your cities as you are powerless to stop them because they now outnumber you in your own home.

    Not long ago, you guys were celebrating the election of Boris Johnson. Now, he’s going to emigrate millions of foreigners into his country, a far worse crime than EU intra-European freedom of movement. Total fail. Johnson’s looming betrayal (and Trump’s before) is merely the logical consequence of your failed ideology: politicians cynically use cultural issues to win elections and then immediately betray community interests on behalf of those with the real power — the business class. And your philosophy renders you powerless to stop this because you worship these interests on the same (or higher) level than the community. They have rights! Not in my society they don’t.

    Conservative / American Nationalist (whatever you guys want to call yourselves these days) philosophy results in an endless compromise where you give up more and more until your enemy is finally emboldened enough to simply take what they want from you by force. Thus, criminal looting, race riots and racial intimidation rallies. It’s financially and psychologically damaging and will ultimately end in your ruin.

    In contrast, my alt-communist society* looks virtually identical to your conceptualized perfect libertarian society. But there is one critical difference: it’s realistic and, therefore, stable. My society places community at the top and everything else below, serving that purpose. Corporations, private industry, small businesses exist exactly the way they do now, but they have no say in political matters; they do not donate to campaigns; they are forbidden from exercising political opinions; their corporate cultures and actions are heavily regulated by a state occupied by people like me. In my society, community, nationalism, collective culture and family are placed above all else. Anything that disrupts that (liberalism, immigration, anti-white hatespeech, diversity quotas) is mercilessly stamped out by force of law, including criminal sentences. It is a harmonious society of free men and captive business interests.

    In my society, people have affordable healthcare because the inefficient corporate middle man has been removed; that happened because they are banned from lobbying, banned from politics, banned from hiring or paying party members / former party members and they must get approval for all advertisements from a government occupied by people like me. Citizens celebrate their own culture because leftist self-haters have been removed from our society or jailed for hatespeech. Racial division doesn’t exist because mass immigration never occurred; those who aren’t white are in the minority and are left alone, thus everyone gets along. People have replacement level birthrates because there is a strong state willing to do the things necessary to ensure our long-term survival:

    … ensuring a 50/50 university mix so that men are more attractive to women; significant tax credits and childcare benefits; reduced cost online university training opportunities for temporary stay-at-home moms (get a degree while taking care of your kid = more earnings potential when they are in school = motherhood is easy, financially beneficial, and not a waste of time for valuable high IQ women = higher overall birthrate because women are incentivized to start families earlier); cheap healthcare; zero interest family starter loans with easy repayment plans … even a UBI for qualifying families (high IQ, university educated, correct psychology**). Etc.

    In this world, conserving the community is more important than conserving the pocketbooks of libertarians who just want a second vacation home and cheap labor to cut their grass. End result: harmony and paradise such that it is possible on earth. Why? Because we are organized enough to win conflicts with opposing groups. We fight as a team and we prevail. We occupy all positions of power and fight off those who would take them or cede them to others.

    In this alternate history, corporations shut their mouths and NEVER endorse groups like BLM or they are destroyed, their board and investors criminally prosecuted. Antifa never existed because we made sure none of them were ever brainwashed with self-hate; those who went rogue anyway were identified early and mercilessly crushed — jailed until beyond reproductive age, removing those damaging characteristics from the population in the next generation. No H1B visas, no corporate person hood, no donations, no politics, and heavy political regulation by the state. Corporations are tools, nothing more. The suicide and substance abuse rates are at all time lows because people are excited by the future; 90s optimism never went away. We control the education system at the highest levels; it is therefore transparent and leftist brainwashing is cut out in favor of teaching patriotic narratives. Oh, and we are working on a Mars landing because we don’t spend $300 billion annually on black wealth transfers.

    *More akin Robert Heinlein’s Starship Troopers (along with the movie characterization). That’s an alt-libertarian society, but one serious about defending itself unlike modern American “grill and chill” libertarians. It’s a free society of individuals united by community interest and self-sacrifice. The authoritarian government there is just a tool for ensuring freedom. State > corporations. Community > individual. Therefore, the individual thrives in freedom.

    Contrast that with how whites are treated in the United States today — economic chattel, mercilessly persecuted, ever vanishing freedoms. Lesson: if you surrender the high ground, then you surrender the future to your enemy.

    **In the near future, this can be accomplished through a simple genetic screening (personality is highly heritable). If we incentivize the right people to reproduce, liberalism can be removed from the population permanently. Self-hating whites who bow before racists will be a thing of the past in just one or two generations. And society’s smart fraction won’t just be smart, but it will also be community-oriented and conservative. Today’s smart fraction: smart but stupid individualists who readily betray their communities for self-interested pursuits — easily brainwashed wimps. Utopia, or something as near to it as possible on this earth, is achievable after all. The year 2200 really can be the dream you saw on television shows like Star Trek. In fact, we’ve already seen it once before: America circa 1957. So, let’s not claim it’s a pipe dream. It’s real enough if you want it and are willing to do what it takes. We don’t have to settle for a mediocre libertarian society where whites beg others to leave them alone with hollow philosophies during grilling season.

    • Replies: @Goddard
  430. @Anon

    “I doubt the people below will be able to get a gun in time for the riots this week, but since Antifa (if they aren’t rounded up before the election) will riot again if Trump wins in November, they’ll be well-armed for that chaos when it happens.”

    What we have is the American version of the Tet Offensive against the entrenched Cosmopolitan Gun Controller.

    All the local gun groups should be taking advantage of the self-immolation of the Gun Controller by their Left-adjunct buddies.

    Start DEMANDING the rollback of gun control in all the communist controlled legislatures.

    You have the RIGHT to an AR-15, the right to large-capacity magazines, with NO REGISTRATION and waiting periods. Saw a hilarious clip on the television where a guy looking to buy a gun in Illinois said he applied to FIRST get an IL FOID card. That’s at least a ONE MONTH wait and then there’s another WAIT of several days after you buy the gun.

    The prerequisite optics for advancing gun rights FINALLY is now at hand.

    Press forward.

  431. anon[474] • Disclaimer says:
    @Pericles

    There is, of course, a large overlap between Antifa and WN, with many people seamlessly moving from one to the other.

    Nice propaganda trick: link one with the other in order to discredit the latter (or both), which you’re obviously obsessed with in all your posts. One problem: that’s obvious nonsense. The FBI really should pay you guys more. The current crop of talent is substandard. Or maybe that’s the point: hire a dumb guy because a smart guy might actually be converted by reading these websites.

  432. Goddard says:
    @Rob

    Great riff on the Sailer Strategy theme. Let ’em stew in their own juice.

  433. What is “hallucinatory cope”?

  434. Antifa is a jewish organization backed by the DNC/ADL/DOJ.

    The bike lock professor is the typical Antifa. Funding is surely from the small hat crew, but they will accept any kind of scum that is willing to join.

    They have tiers and ranks….from hard core druggie criminals to softer soyboys that run when the SHTF.

    Essentially this is the same Bolshevik scum the Germans had to deal with.

    Frey does seem Antifa adjacent and he gave an insipid speech about “400 years of oppression,” and basically justified the riots.

    I do think physical appearance can sometimes be a reflection of character….the Antifa tend to look very twisted.

    Rightwing women are obviously far more attractive than SJW’s……Laura Ingraham, Liz Wheeler, Lana Lokteff, Michelle Malkin…..could go on and on.

    Antifa are not mentally stable individuals so I would not expect them to be physically attractive.

  435. Redman says:
    @Kyle

    In the words of the immortal Ed Koch, “Are you a doctor? Are you a doctor? Thank you Dr. Kyle.”

    I’m no fan of police, not to mention police brutality. We’ve over militarized our police for decades now. But based on the video, I would not conclude that the knee restraint was the COD. It didn’t look good. But if the MN coroner concluded there was no asphyxiation, that seems to raise at least reasonable doubt.

  436. Redman says:
    @AnotherDad

    I’d be very interested to see the full footage. I haven’t seen Floyd struggling in any of the videos (maybe I missed one).

    He appears to be completely lethargic and almost nodding off, as is common with someone on Fentanyl. In NYC today, one often sees black guys almost catatonic but still standing. This has been a pretty recent phenomenon from my experience. This is a lot different than in the heavy crack days of the early 1990s. There was more of fear of violence from the druggies back.

    With Floyd, it seemed like the cops were more annoyed with having to deal with him than anxious about their own safety or him getting away. This is not the typical cop-killing-perp scenario.

  437. @PennTothal

    This must be Parker. I know he was the CEO of AmericanWest, which later merged with American. I’m not surprised. I always thought Parker was a ninny. I also don’t think he’s a good CEO either. He was the first airline CEO to ask for a Federal bailout after 9/11.

    I never thought American West was a good airline, and I’m not impressed with American either these days. BTW, I’m flying them later this month.

    I read a story on the ‘net, about 10 years ago, from a former call girl to talked about snorting cocaine in a hotel suite with the CEO of a “major airline” who complained incessantly about how stressful his job was. The call girl made clear in the story she was not impressed with her “john”. I’m wondering if this CEO was Parker as well.

  438. @anonymous

    Poor posture, both standing and sitting, is not good for skeletal-muscularity. Poor diet is not good either.

  439. I’ve met dozens, hundreds of them; even attended a couple of the riots at UC Berkeley. Most of them are, as far as I can tell, simply violent sociopaths who would not be out of place in a Cesare Lombroso book on criminal physiognomy. Politics is a great excuse for chimping out. Probably lots of them in Berkeley were street punk types, living off of dumpster garbage. The types who used to hang out at Gilman street, or live under bridges -they’re not all total genetic rejects; I knew one whose dad was a fairly renowned physicist and heir to bank of boston fortune. She looked like the rest of them though. Doubtless the result of a late life pregnancy. Some of them are red diaper baby types, or generational Union/Anarchist activists; those generally look normal and probably provide most of the direction and leadership. Also politically adjacent weedy white collar worker, DSA or grad student types who are terrified of Richard Spencer pissing in their organic muesli or whatever, who probably don’t stick around long when they’re burning buildings. There’s a lot of broken people running around.

    I suspect most of the core goofballs involved in it eventually grow out of it and get involved in furry conventions and sniffing glue or whatever.

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
  440. @Dumbo

    If you dress well, groom well and are in shape, the absolute vast majority of white 20 somethings are at least a 6/10. There is no reason to be as ugly as most of the Antifas while you’re in your 20s.

    • Replies: @Ray P
  441. anon[261] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    Well,yeah.
    The bricks being in place.
    How do you think they got there?
    A series of coincidences x 100?

    • Replies: @peterike
    , @J.Ross
  442. Bert says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    A set of videos complied to cover the whole time between Floyd being asked to return the cigarettes allegedly purchased with a counterfeit $20 and his becoming unconscious on the pavement shows Chauvin arriving as the first pair of officers tried to push Floyd into the back of their cruiser. Chauvin initially joins the pushing officers. Then he goes around to the other side of the cruiser, opens the rear door and begins pulling Floyd into the rear seat. Then inexplicably Chauvin pulls Floyd through the rear door that Chauvin had opened. So Chauvin pulled Floyd out of the cruiser and began the knee pressure. That looks entirely premeditated, epecially when done to someone Chauvin may have known personally.

  443. Goddard says:
    @anon

    You’re thinking ahead and playing offense. You’re imagining a world without liberalism. Good, good! More of us need to think this way. When the smoke clears and our chance arrives, then we’ll already have a blueprint.

  444. Exposure to knee grow habits and mannerisms over the past few decades could account for careless,slovenly grooming and eating habits among whites.Now suddenly is obesity not only acceptable but encouraged.It used to be that NO white woman(or man for that matter)wanted to be the “fat girl/guy”,but today more whites spend time in the company of sloppy obese blacks and don’t want to make them feel bad by actually looking like a decent human being.Look at how mudsharks are with their hair – either the greasy,tight topknot or buzzed short,because they know how envious the sponge-heads are of white women’s hair.
    In the case of white men’s looks and grooming,it could be similar – they don’t want to make their black “friends” feel inferior and so they don’t work out,eat right,bathe often etc.Back before we were surrounded by groids and their “culture” wasn’t pushed in white people’s faces 24/7,most whites at least tried to look and be the best they could.

  445. peterike says:
    @Servant of Gla'aki

    Just looking at her makes me feel vaguely uneasy.

    Because she’s crazy. And NEVER put your d**k in crazy.

  446. peterike says:
    @anon

    The bricks being in place.
    How do you think they got there?
    A series of coincidences x 100?

    Van without license plates seen dropping of boxes of bricks in Brooklyn. Scroll down for video of cops removing the bricks.

  447. Ray P says:
    @Tetra

    In Orlando Figes book on the Russian revolution, A People’s Tragedy, he has an anecdote about h0w one of the Bolshevik women’s fathers joked with her that the Bolshie men let their hair and beards grow long because they hadn’t got time for barbers (too busy building the revolution), while the Bolshie women cut their hair short because they hadn’t got time for hairdressers either.

    • Replies: @Tetra
  448. @Corn

    I think the tragedy of Moldylocks was her descent from sweet virginal all American girl to niche porn actress under the influence of college.

    https://i1.wp.com/www.occidentaldissent.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/18009761_10155268867086584_79112268_n.jpg?resize=678%2C381

  449. Bert says:
    @Anonymous

    You just described the psychopathy of all three of my grad school Jewish girl friends. Having those experiences steered me, in the next phase of my life, to a lady from a German family. Much nicer people.

    • Thanks: Pheasant
  450. @Anonymous

    their socialistic 20% mandatory service charge

    I doubt this is literally true.

  451. @Servant of Gla'aki

    “Just looking at her makes me feel vaguely uneasy”.

    Selling your soul to Satan will do that to you.

  452. Ray P says:
    @J.Ross

    Trotsky is supposed to have appeared in American movies as a bit player or an extra when he lived in NYC during the years immediately before 1917.

  453. @Pheasant

    Ludwig Wittgenstein published one book.

    True.

    He did not care much about books. – Socrates might have been his role model.
    Or Lao Tzi.

    He is one of the dozen of thinkers from the first half of the twentieth century, who made it quite easily into the 21st century. (I’ve studied his work once and – I’ve kept quite a lot at the top of my head. (Usually, that is the proof of the philosophical pudding for me)).

  454. Glt says:
    @Altai_2

    Anti gait analysis?

  455. Ray P says:
    @DextersLabRat

    Is this HBD eye for the SJW guy?

    • Replies: @DextersLabRat
  456. @Abelard Lindsey

    Its the pursuit of a relatively long term goal.

    Sort of like learning the difference between “its” and “it’s”

    • LOL: Daniel Chieh
  457. J.Ross says:
    @anon

    Your suggestion is definitely more practical and efficient, but we don’t have video of the distribution. Dinesh D’souza on Dennis Prager today talked quite a bit about this and he’s a thoroughly respectable guy who wouldn’t bring it up if it was a theory. Apparently the wisdom of this is the antifa footsoldiers can pass roadblocks and spot inspections because, with their weapons pre-staged, they’re not carrying anything suspicious en route. So antifa was prepared for a more serious level of policing than what they found. Under Holder and Lynch these people were encouraged, under Sessions they were tolerated, but under Barr there has been some action, and hopefully a smoking gun as prominent and heavy as a pallet of bricks will not be ignored.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  458. @Anonymous

    Unlike Cher, Leni Riefenstahl was never mistaken for a hooker.

    On the other hand, was Cher ever photographed with excessively-hung Nubians?

    Warning: NSFW, unless you’re at a decorator firm, hair salon, flight attendants’ break room, or perhaps one of these places:

    [MORE]

  459. Anon[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross

    Thank you kindly.

  460. @Almost Missouri

    Justin Goeman has JewTube video of the entire episode

    where he was was filming before the truck appeared, and there were some real animals in the crowd who wanted to throw the driver (wearing a red shirt) off the bridge into the Mississippi River.

    He was beaten and kicked by the crowd until police arrived and then Justin is complaining to the police that they maced the protestors “who were trying to protect that man.”

    Idiots! He was arrested and because the police didn’t have barriers up to close the road, he’s not only beaten up very badly but it wouldn’t surprise me if he loses his commercial driver’s license.

    Search for “I35W” and it was a tanker car full of gasoline and there was at least some leakage.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  461. Muggles says:
    @Christopher Paul

    >>And that fat flute-playing rapper. I can’t be bothered to look up her name.<<

    I think you are referring to Lizzo. She has a degree in music and can actually play several instruments.

    So she's not some manufactured pop star though definitely unusual. Was nearly homeless for a while. Don't know if she'll make it long term but she seems fun and sassy.

    Probably not for you right-wing white guys though. Or guys at all if certain rumors are true. But probably would be fun at a party.

    When you look like her, and certain other misfits, you have to deliver the musical goods.

  462. anon[553] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    OTOH, the odious Valerie Plame lost her primary.

    Wait, what? Really? Where? Lemme search…..oh, how did I ever miss this?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrat-teresa-leger-fernandez-defeats-valerie-plame-in-new-mexico-primary/ar-BB14WZnG?OCID=ansmsnnews11

    Plame, running for office for the first time, released an ad resembling a movie trailer during the race, making the case to New Mexico voters why she’s running for Congress as she drives a Chevy Camaro backwards. In the video she said her service was cut short after “my own government betrayed me.”

    Lolcow of the week, maybe of the month!

  463. This isn’t a huge surprise. It goes hand-in-hand with Steve’s First Law of Female Journalism.

  464. @J.Ross

    If this is true, the FBI should be able to find evidence. Get some of the bricks. Find out where they are sold locally. Contact those stores and get sales records for the last month. Find out how the bricks were delivered or picked up. Then look for truck rentals. You generally can’t rent a truck without an ID and a credit card.

    I find the idea unlikely because of all the security cameras around especially in NYC where Manhattan streets are rarely completely empty. Somebody with a forklift and a UHaul at 2am would stick out.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  465. @Anon

    Will antifa attempt to intimidate voters November 4th?

    If they do they’ll be a day late. Election Day 2020 is November 3.

  466. @AnotherDad

    At least this sort of weird hair and ugly makeup is transient. Being at the beach i see truly grotesque tatooing. I see a fair number of now of young moms–who have admirably avoided full bloat and have pleasantish young mom figures … marred by tattoos. A marker of civilizational decay and decline.

    I couldn’t agree more. Having left the USA 30 years ago, when I return for visits I can’t get over the in-your-face devolution in cultural aesthetics.

    The extreme obesity, tattoos, and sloppy dressing are bad enough, but then there’s the aggressive marring of youthful faces with nose rings, studs through the eyebrows, etc. Even in my last visit to the Calvinists’ ancestral village in NW Iowa, in the downtown coffee shop we were served by a young woman who looked like she had faced down a fragmentation grenade, and lost bigly.

    There’s something about it that’s deeply pagan — even demonic.

  467. @Scott Locklin

    There’s a lot of broken people running around.

    Truer words were never spoken.

    Thanks for your post.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
  468. @Anonymous

    This is one of the characteristics of Steve Sailer: he doesen’t have the courage to be in-your-face and insult people that he hates directly, so he insults them indirectly by veiling his insults in the form of pseudo-intellectual questions, such as:

    “Are female journalists feminists because they are ugly and didn’t date the quarterback in high school?” (…)

    On the other hand, as my late father said years ago about the argument of Betty Friedan’s The Feminine Mystique: if she thinks society has made a ‘sex object’ of her, she is very sadly mistaken.

  469. @Jim Don Bob

    My guess is those are piles of bricks dropped off to be used in normal construction projects. A pile of bricks is a really boring thing that you barely notice unless you are on the lookout for it.

    • Replies: @aandrews
  470. aandrews says:
    @aandrews

    ‘Mayhem’: 4 police officers shot during long night of violence and destruction in St. Louis

  471. Well, since the radical left and Antifa are winning at all fronts, maybe this is secret of their triumph?

    Isn’t it time for alt-right to learn from the enemy?

    Just rearrange your faces with hammers until you are even uglier, and success will be yours!

  472. @Dave Pinsen

    I agree that the revolutionaries expected Trump to over react and instead he has been playing it slow.

  473. @anonymous

    But WHO is scoping and recruiting?

  474. @Steve Sailer

    Not all leading Bolsheviks were Jewish, but MOST were

  475. JimB says:
    @PiltdownMan

    And today any crowd scene looks like a pod of land whales. Seems like people back in the 1960’s understood the concept of portion control.

  476. @aandrews

    Eh … a stack of bricks awaiting use in a construction project is, normally, an incredibly boring thing to notice. But get people hopped up and they start noticing stuff that they wouldn’t have noticed before.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  477. @David riskanalyst

    He was beaten and kicked by the crowd until police arrived and then Justin is complaining to the police that they maced the protestors “who were trying to protect that man.”

    These riots have provided a lot of high irony: the (CNN?) reporter standing in front of a literally burning building and insisting it was a peaceful protest, the looters riding in a Rolls Royce, this, this, this, this, this, not to mention the entire premise of the “protest”/riot itself.

    And now the rioter illegally on the Interstate complaining about getting pepper sprayed by police while he is literally standing in front of fresh graffiti saying “Shoot the Police!” (6:53)

    Search for “I35W” and it was a tanker car full of gasoline and there was at least some leakage.

    There’s some overhead video of the event where you can see a rioter try to break open the fuel spigot on the back of the truck. Of course he wasn’t charged either.

  478. @Steve Sailer

    Right. In my youth, I briefly worked as a hod carrier, essentially a brick layers slave. We built the scaffolds, mixed the mud, put the blocks and bricks on the scaffold, etc., so all the brick layer had to do was turn around, grab a brick and some mud.

    Bricks are heavy. We had these brick tongs which were the only way you could carry more than about four bricks at a time. Even a small garbage can full of bricks can’t easily be off/loaded from/into a truck, and the banded pallets shown in the picture can only be moved with a forklift.

    I’m not saying none of this happened, but I doubt the scale that is being bandied about.

  479. @JerseyJeffersonian

    Oh, thanks for noticing JerseyJeffersonian. I do sing in a choir – and I love it – and hope we can spark this off again post CO-19 – quite soon?! –

    – May I add: I love (love!) the writings of Heinrich Seuse – and it was there that I came across this metaphor of God as a circle which has no middle point and who’s circumference is endless for the – second – time.
    I encountered this “mental picture” (Walter Benjamin) for the first time in Theodor Adornos Noten zur Literatur. In it is an essay about “The Essay as Form” and there Adorno – the anti-systematist, made a well-hidden confession concerning the deepest anker so to speak of his writing and here it appeared for the first time for me: The circle consisting of circles which has no center point (middle punct in Seuse’s onomatopoetically even better fitting medieval German) …

    Later I did find, that Seuse was not the first and not the only one to use this metaphor and I’m always glad when I see somebody refer to it.

    Theodore Adorno sparked a lot of texts about his writings, but to my astonishment and – pleasure, I have to admit – nobody did mention the medieval source of his central thought about his writing – and the essay (the whole story reminds me of the Brothers Grimm too – and their fairy tale Rumpelstilzchen – Adorno appeared a tad chthonic at times).

  480. @Paul Jolliffe

    They sure do a lot of driving, in gas guzzlers, for people that are short on fuel.

  481. @Ray P

    See, gays CAN serve a purpose on the right! The Nazis did have amazing uniforms.

  482. @Jane Plain

    ‘… I can’t find articles.’

    You can draw inferences from that, though. This is getting to be like living in the old Soviet Union — and for similar reasons.

  483. Kronos says:
    @PiltdownMan

    I won’t lie, I’m impressed.

    Sure beats the “Jay & Silent Bob” slob look.

  484. Lagertha says:
    @Whiskey

    Sheesh, I used to be a fan of yours…now you are just a crazy and obtuse guy who deserves to be alone and hated. This current shit is gonna burn down and be ashes…and get boring when all those young people wanna hang out and get to a lake, ocean, campsite. Young people get bored and their hormones propels them to hook up with their co-looters and co-vandals. Much of Scandinavian society was built with people who got tired of violence and killing. And, then, July arrives…then August…then September and so on

  485. Lagertha says:
    @Lagertha

    I so want all these people to kill themselves…if they are in such despair, they will all do us a favor.

  486. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Yes, yes. Veganism definitely has similarities with eating disorders. Both deep ones, such as disgust over natural urges and natural foods, and superficial ones, such as inability to distinguish between emaciated and lean.

  487. Tetra says:
    @Ray P

    I picked up the audio book of “A People’s Tragedy” thanks for bringing it to my attention I hadn’t heard of it before.

    I’m finishing up “Return of the Strong Gods: Nationalism, Populism, and the future of the West” by. R.R. Reno so I’ll start it after that.

  488. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    Wow, why you (Anonymous[129]) sooooo triggered??? Seriously??? You post reeks of bruised ego, anger and vengeance.
    Are you an ungly antifa too? That would explain it.

  489. Malla says:
    @Jane Plain

    “If we could just kill a few, things would simmer down pretty quickly. But we can’t.”
    And that is why all those fake funded “revolutions” succeed. They make it very difficult for the opposition of their funded revolution, to do much, take simple steps which would defeat their fake colour revolutions.
    They repeat the fake news everywhere and they write the fake histories.
    Thus control the news networks and the history departments. Write truths and say the truth thus preventing them from spreading and recording their lies and propaganda as facts.
    In many cases the “revolutionaries” knew that the powers (they are supposedly fighitng against) are already on their side to begin with. For them it is like playing a video game, rigged in their favour.
    All those Communist revolutions, French revolution, Third World “independence struggles”….all of them.

  490. JimDandy says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Most white women support countless contradictory things at the same time. They are the masters of DoubleThink and you shouldn’t get your hopes up over things white women babble to pollsters. You’re a delicate lil duck and I don’t want you to get your hopes up. It could be so shattering that you might retire from the commenting game and we would all be deprived of your artless hilarity.

    Just remember this: when the chips were down, the majority of white women voted against their Dream Goddess and for our current Emperor God. That’s why you pitifully quacked yourself to sleep that night. That’s why Donald Trump is your president. The dickless say a lot of nonsense, but in the end, every woman adores a Fascist, the boot in the face, the brute Brute heart of a brute like Donnie.

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