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From NBC San Diego:

San Diego Police Hunting Dozens Connected to Crime Ring That Targets Asian Elders

By Dave Summers • Published January 18, 2023 •

… The San Diego Police Department is asking for the public’s help taking down what investigators call an international organized theft ring that has been operating in San Diego since 2020. Police say the ring preys on the Asian and elderly communities.

A week before Christmas, NBC 7 reported the story of an attack on a 72-year-old Vietnamese grandmother across the street from her home on Kenova Street in Mira Mesa. Her necklace, which was an important piece of heirloom jewelry, was taken by two women.

… “It is very frustrating and it is disappointing. It’s sad, it is all the above. A lot of these items are invaluable, irreplaceable,“ Lao Community Organizer Pida Kongphouthone said.

Kongphouthone has been the shoulder to cry on for victims of this international criminal organization for the last two years.

“A lot of our elders, a lot of our community members, they are scared to go out,” Kongphouthone said.

… Investigators released the suspected names and faces of 13 people arrested and charged in connection with this series of crimes, plus pictures of more than 30 suspects they’re trying to capture.

“These are people we have identified as being in San Diego and being involved on some level in these crimes,” SDPD Financial Crimes detective Luke Johnson said. “Often times they will ask directions to the nearest church or tell them they went through some trauma in their family to get them to feel sorry for them.”

Once the victim’s guard is down, they use pickpocket sleight of hand skills to steal everything from jewelry to wallets. If that doesn’t work they resort to rougher methods, investigators said.

“They buy luxury vehicles. We have suspects that own Lamborghinis, Ferraris and Rolls Royces. They have large mansions in Romania,” Detective Johnson said.

All police suspects connected to these crimes come from a small community in Romania, according to Detective Johnson.

The police refer to them as “Roma Travelers.” Nobody dares call them Gypsies, because there so many stereotypes attached to the word “Gypsies,” such as them often being, well, thieves.

What % of the public knows that “Roma Travelers” means Gypsies? Fifteen percent?

Do ordinary Romanians get tired of the rest of the world hearing about the hijinks of Roma from Romania and blaming Romanians?

Do Gypsies ever branch out into more modern forms of stealing like Medicare fraud? Or are they too dyslexic to want to fill out all the paperwork?

 
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  1. Anonymous[358] • Disclaimer says:

    Do ordinary Romanians get tired of the rest of the world hearing about the hijinks of Roma from Romania and blaming Romanians?

    I don’t if they still do this, but for a long time the British papers would just refer to them as “Romanians” in their crime reports, which must have annoyed ordinary Romanians.

    Do Gypsies ever branch out into more modern forms of stealing like Medicare fraud? Or are they too dyslexic to want to fill out all the paperwork?

    In the Northeast of the US, the most “legitimate” business Gypsies are known for running are those psychic reading shops. You know those ones with small storefronts with neon “Psychic” signs where you sit with a lady who looks into a crystal ball or does Tarot card readings and tells you your future.

    They are also into prostitution and supposedly there’s less stigma and jealousy within Gypsy communities and families about female relatives and significant others being prostitutes. The male relatives, boyfriends, husbands will often be the pimps or guardians for Gypsy prostitutes.

  2. Daniel H says:

    OT: endlessly fascinating to those of us outside the LA basin but duhhhhh to Steve and others that make LA their home. How a hiker can come to a bad end in those majestic San Gabriel mountains -mountains towering as high as the Alps – that overlook that extremely strange metropolis. I mean, it’s California….sunshine…temperate weather….10 million people within a 50 mile radius….One really can ski in Los Angeles in the a.m and host a barbecue in the evening. And yet one can get lost and perish from the elements in this too-much-compromised wilderness. Wild.

    I’m from the east coast, we don’t have vast mountain ranges that push right up to the edge of our quite large cities as you do in LA. Fascinating.

    Anway, dude should’ve been a boy scout. Be prepared.

    https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2023/01/19/british-actor-julian-sands-identified-as-missing-hiker/

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Curle
  3. Anonymous[311] • Disclaimer says:

    Can someone explain to me why Gypsies have a bad reputation in Europe and seem to be a despised group?

    Honest question, I’m 29 and have never quite understood their story.

  4. fnn says:

    They probably have a separate file for Irish Traveler criminals. Those two groups seem to have very similar Group Evolutionary Strategies-something you can’t say about high SES groups.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
  5. Mr. Anon says:

    The police refer to them as “Roma Travelers.” Nobody dares call them Gypsies, because there so many stereotypes attached to the word “Gypsies,” such as them often being, well, thieves.

    All’s I know is don’t let yourself get roma’ed. Or travelered.

    • Replies: @Mr. Peabody
  6. SOL says:

    Let’s import more criminals! We don’t have enough!

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @Alfa158
  7. Nobody dares call them Gypsies, because there so many stereotypes attached to the word “Gypsies,” such as them often being, well, thieves.

    And tramps.

  8. Roma Travelers. That moniker makes it sound way too continental. Almost as if Anthony Bourdain covered them on one of his past trips for a television show.

    AB: “Here in the hinterlands of the Roma Travelers, one can see the advanced civilization they built, and the trash piles left behind.”

    • LOL: bomag
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  9. Odyssey says:

    Romania was the Jesuit project ‘Eastern Latins’ in the Vatican’s campaign to the east. Started 300 years ago they created 160 years ago an artificial nation with an artificial name and an artificial quasi-Latin language. Allegedly, retired soldiers of the Roman army once settled there. Only 16% of today’s territory of Romania was under Roman rule for 168 years, not enough for the Latin language (which was otherwise not a spoken language) to spread to 100%. The project has already paid dividends, 160 K Romanians died under Stalingrad and now they are on standby for a possible march on Russia. Yes, there are many Gypsies (Tziganes) who are originally from what is now Romania and many of them have moved all over the world. Gypsies Are Found Near Heaven. Diversity is our strength.

    Homage to Gina Lollobrigida – Zingarella:

  10. @Reg Cæsar

    I see your Cher and raise you one Rick Nelson

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  11. ‘Treated like dogs’: Italy’s Roma minority on society’s fringe
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44632472

    “I feel 100% Italian, but I regret being born here. We are being treated like dogs, and it’s not fair,” says Zanepa Mehmeti, who is 23.

    She belongs to the Roma (Gypsy) community, Italy’s largest ethnic minority that numbers up to 180,000.

    But lately the whole idea of what it means to be Italian for people like her has been called into question.

    The new Interior Minister, Matteo Salvini, pledged this month to carry out a census of the Roma people, to find out “who and how many are here”.

    Italy’s most prominent right-wing populist went on to joke: “Unfortunately, those who have Italian citizenship, we have to keep – because we can’t expel them.”

    Well that sounds nice. More kind words:

    Tens of thousands of Roma, also known by the derogatory term “Zingari”, live across Italy, many in squalid shanty towns on the outskirts of major cities.

    For many Italians, a census of the Roma community feels long overdue.

    In Rome’s most iconic market, Porta Portese, it is hard to find anyone with anything positive to say about the Roma.

    “They are thieves,” one stall owner tells me. “Just yesterday, some Roma people tried to steal my car! I hope Salvini makes them go away.”

    Many Italians are exasperated by pickpockets and thieves from this community.

    Hope San Diego gets a handle on these anti-Asian hate crime offenders.

  12. Anon[195] • Disclaimer says:

    What % of the public knows that “Roma Travelers” means Gypsies? Fifteen percent

    Uh, try less than 1%.

    • Agree: Pincher Martin
    • Replies: @Pincher Martin
  13. I gotta say , I applaud #34’s attempt to grow his own Guy Fawkes/V for vendetta mask. It’s that kind of out of the box thinking that makes Roma synonymous with disruptive innovation.

    • LOL: JimDandy
  14. Anon[195] • Disclaimer says:

    “They buy luxury vehicles. We have suspects that own Lamborghinis, Ferraris and Rolls Royces. They have large mansions in Romania,” Detective Johnson said.

    All police suspects connected to these crimes come from a small community in Romania, according to Detective Johnson

    .

    All that to get around the word: gypsy.

    But yeah, the media is “honest and good”.

  15. The Gypsies are nothing compared to the crowd that uses Americans as canon fodder in multiple wars. They aren’t the ones bilking us out of $100 billion for the corrupt dictator Zelensky (who isn’t even Ukrainian!)

    Do Steve Sailer and his “donors” on this blog enjoy seeing young white men die under the command of swishy trannies and affirmative action cases like Lloyd Austin.

    • Thanks: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @Werner
    , @Guest007
    , @Muggles
  16. Voltarde says:

    Conspicuous lack of diversity alert! Even the robot is white.

    Boston Dynamics’ latest Atlas video demos a robot that can run, jump and now grab and throw
    https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/18/boston-dynamics-latest-atlas-video-demos-a-robot-that-run-jump-and-now-grab-and-throw-things/

  17. Anonymous[366] • Disclaimer says:

    I think criminals targeting Asians should get double punishment because Asians— especially NE Asians— are almost childlike with their high order, high trust instincts (no doubt a product of their higher IQs).

    • LOL: Kylie
  18. SafeNow says:


    And here I thought “Roma Travelers” means oblong tomatoes that are grown in one place but then shipped to a distant market.

    Anyway, my actual comment is that carrying a dummy wallet and dummy cell phone should be utilized in localities where these people are operating. And, expanded to include dummy jewelry. The actual items would be carried in the zippered pockets of one’s security underwear.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Corpse Tooth
  19. @Anon

    What % of the public knows that “Roma Travelers” means Gypsies? Fifteen percent?

    Definitely a lot lower than 5%.

  20. Anonymous[256] • Disclaimer says:

    A lot of excess adiposity. Not a people selected for a sedentary lifestyle, that’s for sure. Maybe instead of terrorizing old Asian ladies, they should try taking over SD’s Mariachi scene–Roma are absolutely top-tier folk musicians. Though people might notice when the density of notes jumps an order of magnitude.

  21. I’d say only a couple of percent of Americans would get the term. Many probably think it’s an expression for tourists visiting from Rome as said by Italians, since the Italians always have to add a vowel onto anything. “Yessa, justa soma Roma Travelorsa, atta the groceriea to buya soma Roma Tomato for theira calzonie and maybe take-ah your cella phono by accidenta.”

    Do Gypsies ever branch out into more modern forms of stealing like Medicare fraud? Or are they too dyslexic to want to fill out all the paperwork?

    Funny stuff, Steve!

    • LOL: Liza
  22. @Daniel H

    It sounds like actor Julian Sands really liked (hopefully, likes, but it’s been six days now) hiking big mountains in winter. Mt. Baldy is 10,064 feet tall and probably has about 3 feet of snow on it above 6000 or 7000 feet. If this is the end for the poor fellow, well, it’s a healthy man’s way to go at age 65.

  23. @Anonymous

    They commit a disproportionate amount of crime, particularly theft. And they have a worse reputation among Europeans (particularly eastern) because that’s where Gypies are more concentrated.

  24. @Anonymous

    They used to have the legit job of itinerant knife sharpeners.

  25. @Steve Sailer

    Funny how knowing all these bitch stats about trivia isn’t tiresome. But advocating for your people is. In fact, writing long articles explaining why white people should never bother being on their own side isn’t tiresome.

    Funny how that works. Hey, can anyone explain what Controlled Opposition is?

    • Disagree: hhsiii
    • LOL: AndrewR
  26. Do ordinary Romanians get tired of the rest of the world hearing about the hijinks of Roma from Romania and blaming Romanians?

    Yes.

    The name itself is a kind of Gypsy theft and con.

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
  27. @Anonymous

    One technique of theirs might explain. Families in public places like busy train stations will size up a victim (often a tourist) and actually throw a baby at them.

    Naturally any civilized person will drop whatever s/he’s carrying and catch the baby.

    Need I explain what happens then?

    • Thanks: ben tillman
  28. JimDandy says:
    @Anonymous

    I shouldn’t have laughed, but I can’t figure out to get rid of it.

    They are a culture almost entirely devoted to crime, fraud, deception… name it. Their women drug even their babies so they can use them as props for begging. And so on.

  29. JimDandy says:

    BURR RIDGE, IL — Residents, particularly older ones, are sometimes the victims of ruse burglaries in Burr Ridge and nearby suburbs. In such a crime, one person who poses as a utility or other service worker distracts the homeowner while another enters the house and commits theft.

    Burr Ridge Police Chief John Madden mentioned this type of crime during his annual report to the Village Board on Monday.

    “It is extremely important to address the threats that are external to our village, that are coming into our village,” Madden said. “I’ve got an intelligence report in my folder that is 65 pages of data listing suspect vehicles and burglary cases that are primarily European travelers formerly known as Gypsies. They perform and conduct these ruse burglaries.”

    “While the lineage might be descended from Eastern Europe, there are established groups of Travelers that have been born and raised in America. And, to be clear, these types of crimes can be committed by anyone. When we, or other law enforcement agencies, encounter these groups, though, they will very often self-identify as ‘Roma.’”

  30. Odyssey says:
    @Odyssey

    Gypsies are originally from India (Punjab) and came to Europe in the 9th century. In Eastern Europe, they are known as Tziganes, and Gypsies comes from the fact that they were thought to have come from Egypt. In French, Gypsies are Gitanes and this is the name of their most famous tobacco brand (there was also a movie with the same name where Alain Delon played a Gypsy).

    • Replies: @LondonBob
  31. Nachum says:
    @Anonymous

    The conflict between settled people (which is almost all of us today) and nomads goes way back into prehistory and continues until today. “Town and gown” is said to reflect this.

    It doesn’t help if the nomads aren’t very honest, of course, above and beyond what might be expected of people with a loose grasp of the concept of “private property.”

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @MM
  32. Anonymous[256] • Disclaimer says:
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    Yeah, I hate it when Steve shares interesting facts.
    I also hate it when he advocates for sensible (not to mention favorable to white people) positions on almost everything by using gay things like logic and evidence. We all know that if he really cared about white people, he would bash his own head in until he could write as persuasively as “Loyalty Over IQ Worship”.

    • LOL: TWS
  33. Remember, the Roma are originally from India, like the man from the IRS or Social Security office who needs all your personal information.

    • Thanks: Redneck farmer
  34. @Steve Sailer

    Seems with all the German and Japanese knives out on the market, our itinerant brethren are inclined more to the bottle than honest work. A sad affair for them, really.

  35. Lex says:

    I’m surprised they didn’t just call them Romanian. Check out these Polish criminals:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-40105793

  36. anonymous[220] • Disclaimer says:

    If you want to know why eastern Europeans are so reflexively against migration, it is the experience of the Roma / Romani / Gypsies, who have been in Europe for something like 1000 years or more since arriving (likely from India), but still haven’t assimilated, and still cause disproportionate major difficulty, being a high percentage of local prison populations, etc. Even the Communists couldn’t settle them down.

    In Belgium in recent months, a couple, owning a previous house in another town that was empty, offered to house Ukraine refugees. They got some Ukraine Roma … who then rented part of the space to other Gypsies who piled in, and the collective entirely trashed the property. €36,000 in damage to the place before they could be moved out. Belgian gov is refusing to compensate the couple, advising them to sue the now-gone-somewhere Ukrainian Roma in court LOL.

    https://rmx.news/belgium/belgian-couple-faced-with-e36000-repair-bill-after-unknowingly-housing-a-roma-family-from-ukraine-who-wreaked-havoc/

    • Thanks: Chrisnonymous
    • Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum
  37. duncsbaby says:
    @Anonymous

    NE Asians— are almost childlike

    Don’t underestimate their toughness. Do I have to mention World War 2 or Korea? They might be all small and cute and cuddly but they bite hard when provoked.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
  38. Anonymous[159] • Disclaimer says:

    Thanks to EU membership, the UK received a metric shed ton of Gypsies from Romania.

    One very tangible result of this is that virtually every UK High Street – ( a translation is necessary, in the UK a ‘High Street’ is equivalent to an American ‘main street’, that is a neighborhood’s main shopping street) – is infested by whole gangs of Roma beggars who work specific pitches up and down the High Street, some streets have as many as ten Roma beggars operating at one time. It has given a positively mediaeval aspect to the already run down and impoverished English shopping street. Physical deformities, either real or fake, or openly sported to generate cash, others wail out loud and are clothed in rags.
    How wonderful was the EU! Dragging Britain back to 1500 AD!

    • Agree: LondonBob
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  39. Anonymous[159] • Disclaimer says:
    @ArthurinCali

    Even Tusken Raiders sounds better.

    • LOL: ArthurinCali
  40. TyRade says:

    Forward to heavyweight champ Tyson Fury, self-proclaimed ‘Gypsy King’, for a reaction? Right hook?

    • Replies: @Stealth
  41. duncsbaby says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Yes, the Roma aren’t very Romanian. They originated from India and apparently didn’t arrive in Europe until the 1300’s. Btw, they don’t even like being called Roma so we might as well call them Gypsies.

    “Others prefer their own ethnonym and object to being called Roma.”

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Rom

    • Replies: @Odyssey
  42. ‘Do ordinary Romanians get tired of the rest of the world hearing about the hijinks of Roma from Romania and blaming Romanians?’

    I know a Romanian. The answer is ‘yes!’

    The irony is that being all too familiar with Gypsies the rest of the Romanians are very much biased against them. When we were traveling around Romania, a friend of our friend used to crack me up. Whenever she spotted some Gypsies, she would simply say the the single word, ‘Gypsy.’

    The thing was, she was able to pack so much loathing and contempt into just the utterance of a single word. That was seven years ago, and I can still hear her.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  43. @Anonymous

    ‘Can someone explain to me why Gypsies have a bad reputation in Europe and seem to be a despised group?’

    They’re inveterate con artists and petty thieves. Sort of blacks with brains.

    …actually worse than blacks. I might well try trusting a black in some sense. I’d never trust a Gypsy.

    The black is a bad bet. Trusting the Gypsy would be suicidal.

    • Replies: @Jim
  44. @Anonymous

    ‘I think criminals targeting Asians should get double punishment because Asians— especially NE Asians— are almost childlike with their high order, high trust instincts (no doubt a product of their higher IQs).’

    The same would apply to whites around here — well, the high trust part.

  45. Liger says:
    @Anonymous

    No one who has ever learned any Chinese and visited China would ever call their culture high trust. As for high order, have you seen them drive?

  46. Liger says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Legend has it they used to produce good boxers too.

  47. Liger says:

    Anyhow, they brought “gypsy” on themselves. Back in the high middle ages or whenever it was they showed up in Europe, they told the locals that their ancestors were Egyptians who had pissed off the holy family during their flight to Egypt and had been cursed to wander. Or so I’ve been told.

    • Replies: @Jim
  48. Dream says:
    @Anonymous

    East Asians are far more sensible and pragmatic than White people are.

  49. My favorite part about gypsies is how lefty American college students studying abroad will come back talking about how awful they are but then refuse to apply the same logic to blacks.

    • Replies: @Corn
  50. @Anonymous

    I do like satire.
    You should stick around.

    • Agree: bomag
  51. @Anonymous

    By reputation, gypsies are the worst mixture of blacks and Jewish stereotypes.

    Blacks: physically violent, sticky fingers, vandalism, large threats and boasting, easily aroused to violent over pettiness.

    Jewish: clever (though not as smart as Jews), con artists, sob stories, no shame at lying, prostitution of their own women, run gambling rings, run away from people they’ve ripped off but tell new people they are refugees and unfairly oppressed.

    Basically, a gypsy is, by stereotype, smart enough to be the smartest black man, violent enough to be the most violent Jewish man, and nasty enough to consider everyone a mark who isn’t a gypsy.

  52. @fnn

    The Tinkers (Irish Travellers) are thrown in there just for some Irish color. They wanted a white group to be just like gypsies, so they get thrown in as the same. In reality, Tinkers are more hobo bum groups than violent thieving rip off artists that gypsies.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  53. @Nachum

    It used to be the population was more spread out in small towns so it made more economic sense to bring various services intermittently to the village where there wasn’t enough demand to support a full time resident worker. It’s interesting the occupations that go with an itinerant lifestyle: knife sharpening, music and dance entertainment, begging, and various scams.

    Gypsies tend to be the opposite of Jews, the other real distinctive ethnicity in Europe: not very literate and with remarkably little interest in their own history. Like the question of where they’re from. They seem to have forgotten.

  54. Bucharest tram stop poster.

    Hey Oni-Chan!

    Did you know that gypsies make up 9% of the population, but commit 2/3 of the crimes?

    But this is a huge over representation.

    Yes it is Oni-Chan!

    In Sweden, they like to throw shit at each other:

    Gypsy music is often praised, but I wonder why gypsy cuisine has never taken off? Apart from the hygiene considerations, what would it consist of? Hedgehogs?

  55. @Liger

    No one who has ever learned any Chinese and visited China would ever call their culture high trust.

    A friend of mine used to have a contract to supply baby milk formula to high-status Chinese officials. The officials wanted a good source, since the supply is dubious in China. Anyway, he had to stop supplying them, because they would use 75% of the formula, then re-fill the tubs with some industrial crap, and re-sell it to others. The Chinese are more than happy to harm and even kill (see Cultural Revolution) their neighbours.

    People think China is going to take over the world, but it’s basically a huge Sicily with a housing bubble.

  56. @JimDandy

    A bit of knowledge that can help you avoid falling for a Gypsy scam is to know that there are American-raised Gypsies with plain American accents.

    • Agree: JimDandy
    • Replies: @ganderson
    , @TelfoedJohn
  57. @Odyssey

    Started 300 years ago they created 160 years ago an artificial nation with an artificial name and an artificial quasi-Latin language. Allegedly, retired soldiers of the Roman army once settled there. Only 16% of today’s territory of Romania was under Roman rule for 168 years, not enough for the Latin language … to spread to 100%.

    I’m told that the word for “husband” in Romanian comes from the Latin word for “soldier”: miles. Or was that just part of the Jesuit psy-op?

    ———

    Incidentally, the English/French/German/Spanish words for “soldier” come from the Latin word for a gold coin: soldarius, so by implication, one who has good pay. Kinda puts the soldier’s significance in traditional Western Europe into perspective.

    “Farmer” is another word with a revealing etymology. For the English, a farmer isn’t one who raises crops or livestock, or even one who wears a straw hat, but one who collects taxes. The gastronomie-loving French nevertheless regard their farmers merely as paysan, i.e., pagans. Only in German does the farmer get a modicum of the respect he is due as bauer: a builder.

    • Replies: @Liger
    , @J.Ross
  58. A lot of Americans seem to simply be unaware of what Gypsies are — like the neighbor who proudly told me his wife was half-gypsy. If it were me, I wouldn’t bring it up.

    Nobody — but nobody — who has had much actual contact with Gypsies seems to have anything good to say about them.

    • Agree: nokangaroos
  59. My French girlfriend gets outraged if I say anything the least “racist,” but for the Gypsies she herself is unapologetically condemnatory. In France it is amazing what they get away with.

    • Replies: @mc23
  60. Liger says:
    @Steve Sailer

    I recall once reading somewhere that among Gypsy’s there is a strong taboo against speaking about departed members of the community whom no living member of the was ever accquainted with. So you might share anecdotes about your grandfather, but sharing repeating tales about your great grandfather might be strictly forbidden.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  61. Liger says:
    @TelfoedJohn

    “A huge Sicily with a housing bubble.”

    Apt metaphor, laconic.

    You should write poetry.

  62. Liger says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Bauer kinda sounds like boor.

  63. Speaking of diversity, behold the multi-ethnic Antifa gang cell involved in the shooting of the cop in Atlanta:

  64. @Colin Wright

    Whenever she spotted some Gypsies, she would simply say the the single word, ‘Gypsy.’

    The thing was, she was able to pack so much loathing and contempt into just the utterance of a single word.

    I had a Magyar friend, and … same: pointed with his chin, narrowed his eyes, and “jeepseee“.

    In what I thought at the time was gratuitous racism, but I see now was his intuitive grasp of genomics, he also applied the term to Indian subcons. A subcon store clerk asked us if we “knew his pricing”, implying we were shoplifitng. The Magyar response: “Jeepseee.”

    On seeing the subcon proprietor’s VW parked behind the store: “He think he ubermencsh because he have fau vey, but he JEEPSEEE!”

    That was seven years ago, and I can still hear her.

    Thirty years. Still clear as a bell.

  65. @Johann Ricke

    Is there something about antifascism that causes everyone’s head to tilt to one side?

  66. @Liger

    Thanks.

    Seems like the opposite of most other cultures, where you should be careful about gossiping about the living, who might take offense, but telling tales of Achilles and Odysseus is praiseworthy.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  67. @Colin Wright

    Strong musical skills. I talked to a famous Hungarian pianist who knew Gypsies who made it through the top classical music conservatory in Budapest without being able to read music. Dyslexia is a big problem that limits their literacy, but they tend to have very good ears.

  68. @Liger

    Funny you should mention it, since I just looked it up.

    https://www.etymonline.com/word/boor

    But boor comes from bos: “ox”, while bauer comes from bau: “build”.

    But, c.f., churl and villain:

    https://www.etymonline.com/word/churl

    https://www.etymonline.com/word/villain

  69. MM says:
    @Nachum

    “Town and gown” refers to conflict between university students and merchants (or rather their apprentices) of the nearest town. The old universities were generally founded by the Church (intended to train priests) and the students often fell under ecclesiastical law. A portion of them were also sons of nobility. So they could act up (often drunk) and escape the consequences.

    Hm. Maybe there is a relation there.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  70. Odyssey says:
    @duncsbaby

    You are right, they came in the 14.c to Europe. There is a map with arrival in different regions. In #32 I mentioned 9-10th c. They actually left India at that time. It took them about 400 years to reach Europe, It is about the same time that Aryans needed to come to India from Europe. It is interesting that Roma’s language during this overlap period got influenced by Aryan language/Sanskrit.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  71. At one stage London’s Park Lane, home to the capital’s most exclusive hotels. was colonised by Roma, who found it convenient for looting nearby Oxford Street.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2330542/The-Roma-gipsy-beggars-Park-Lane-30-Romanians-camp-soiled-duvets-cardboard-boxes-exclusive-London-street.html

    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/roma-gypsies-use-law-avoid-18649121

    But sadly the British authorities couldn’t tolerate a camp where so many foreign tourists go, although they’ll tolerate such places near Native Brits for decades.

    https://www.travellerstimes.org.uk/news/2013/07/park-lane-roma-camp-evicted

    OT, how did I ever miss this story?

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/mar/12/birthstrikers-meet-the-women-who-refuse-to-have-children-until-climate-change-ends

    As soon as Blythe Pepino got together with her partner Joshua two years ago, she felt “this overwhelming urge to create a family with him”, she says. “I think it was the fifth day after having met him, I said: ‘I’ve got to meet your parents.’ He was like: ‘You’re mad.’”

    Then, late last year, she attended a lecture held by the direct action group Extinction Rebellion, which set out starkly the catastrophic reality of the changing climate. That galvanised Pepino, an activist and musician (she is the former singer of Vaults, now Mesadorm), to do research of her own and, eventually, to have a series of sad conversations with Joshua.

    “I realised that even though I wanted to have a family at that point, I couldn’t really bring myself to do it,” she says. “I had to say to him: ‘I don’t know if I can do this, considering what we know – if there isn’t a political will to fix this, we really don’t stand much of a chance.’”

    Pepino, who turns 33 today, found that other women – especially those in climate-conscious circles – were struggling with the same question, but were “too afraid to talk about it” for fear of judgment or ridicule. The US congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez gave voice to their concerns last month, pointing to the increasingly dire scientific consensus and widespread government inaction: “It does lead young people to have a legitimate question: is it OK still to have children?”

    And so Pepino decided to publicly announce her decision – strategically making the personal political – by setting up BirthStrike, a voluntary organisation for women and men who have decided not to have children in response to the coming “climate breakdown and civilisation collapse”. In doing so, she hopes to channel the grief she feels about her decision “into something more active and regenerative and hopeful”. In just two weeks, 140 people, mostly women in the UK, have declared their “decision not to bear children due to the severity of the ecological crisis”, says Pepino.

    Naturally the declarations were on Tumblr (and Ms Pepino looks just like you might imagine).

    Alas there were snakes even in the Garden of Eden, and Ms Pepino, whose parents surely broke nominative determinism if/when they called her “Blythe”, soon found them.

    https://gendread.substack.com/p/to-have-a-baby-or-not-birthstrike

    “BirthStrike, a product of the UK middle-class, wants people like them to look in their own backyards and at their own governments, to push for policies that transform systems and the very way in which we get our energy. They don’t want poor people to stop having kids, and they are distressed at how they lost control of their own narrative.”

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-h5w_JTY05Ei1ZcZymmJdES562XNRlo0/view

    Having spent the last 6 months in a process of reflection, the BirthStrike team have come to realise that BirthStrike is no longer tenable as a campaign tool for action on the climate crisis. In the light of the recent BLM protests spurring conversations around racial and social justice, and what we see as a welcome and increasing awareness of the inextricable links between social/racial justice and climate collapse, we think it will be dangerous for us to continue to campaign as ‘BirthStrike’ going forward.

    A pity. There was enough material there for several conferences.

  72. Anonymous[938] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    I talked to a famous Hungarian pianist who knew Gypsies

    Please tell me that you don’t just make this shit up? C’mon man, what was his name? Körön Papp?

  73. @R.G. Camara

    Irish travellers are genetically Irish, perhaps descendants of people dispossessed during the “settlement of the north” 4 or 5 hundred years back. They can be both dishonest and violent.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0729/106359-mullingar/

    Judge John Neilan was told the accused are alleged to have been involved in violence that took place at Dalton Park housing estate or the Midland Regional Hospital in Mullingar during the afternoon. All eight people were remanded in custody to appear again at a sitting of the District Court in Tullamore on Monday.

    The men were arrested after violence erupted at around midday in the Dalton Park estate in the town. It is believed that the violence is related to an ongoing family feud.

    Initial violence that broke out on the housing estate spread to Midland Regional Hospital later in the afternoon. Two people had earlier been arrested on the estate after the row broke out between two families. Two petrol bombs were thrown during the clashes. Locals reported that more than 30 people were throwing stones and other missiles in the centre of the estate.

    Gardaí say the dispute may have been triggered by what they described as a ‘king of the tinkers-style’ fist fight. Residents in the area say a major dispute has been underway between two feuding families for several months but only escalated into serious violence today.

  74. LondonBob says:
    @Odyssey

    They are supposed to be from a caste of travelling circus performers, more representative of India than the Jains or other elite Indian castes. Pretty impressive how they made their way across the Middle East to Christian Europe.

    • Thanks: Odyssey
  75. Odyssey says:
    @Steve Sailer

    It’s true. I know a few of them who play classical music and quite a few who play/sing gypsy folk songs. Here is one of them, violinist Nemanja Radulovic:

  76. @YetAnotherAnon

    Whilst they may have existed hundreds of years ago, the ones in Britain now are mostly of much more recent Irish stock than that. Most of them still have broad Irish accents. A lot have come over in the last 25 years, and communities have sprung up in various parts of England. There is such a thing as English travellers, maybe some of them have roots in Ireland going back further.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  77. @Almost Missouri

    Yes, the inability to think straight.

  78. J.Ross says:

    NPR is often entertaining and informative without intending to be, and once told of a Roma school for pickpockets, with mannikins bedecked with little sleighbells on strings. Pickpocketing is apparently a true skill like lock bumping or reverse shortchanging.

  79. J.Ross says:
    @Anonymous

    I had a friend once who went to Europe and the first thing she experienced out of the airport was a Gypsy with a knife. Pile their bodies higher.

  80. J.Ross says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Is paysan from pagan or pays? Or was there a mixture, since the pagans lived out in the pays?

    • Replies: @BB753
  81. Mike Tre says:
    @Anonymous

    Don’t they specialized in gaudy jewelry?

  82. Anonymous[288] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    The shared characteristic is extreme ethnocentrism and a very strong genetically based insider/outsider distinction and behaviors centered around that distinction.
    Basically, that dynamic explains more or less everything about both groups, their histories, existence and mode of life. Some might say that it is a real time demonstration that sociobiological theories, based on Hamiltonian ‘selfish gene’ insights apply just as strongly to the human species as they do various animal, insect etc strategies taken from nature.

  83. anon[175] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    an old vietnamese women crying on the shoulder of a Lao?

    no way.
    https://la.usembassy.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/85/LAOS-2020-HUMAN-RIGHTS-REPORT.pdf

  84. countenance says: • Website

    Do Gypsies ever branch out into more modern forms of stealing like Medicare fraud?

    Here in Germany, they were pretty big into Covid relief fraud.

    • Replies: @Fluesterwitz
  85. bomag says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    We have national anthems, school songs, graduating class songs, etc.

    This one should be used more.

  86. George says:

    “they use pickpocket sleight of hand skills ” America has let its pickpocket sleight of hand skills atrophy so we need to bring in foreign experts. Sort of like Asian doctors and STEM professionals.

  87. HFR says:
    @TelfoedJohn

    A Bucharest tram-stop poster written in Hungarian? Anything is possible, but Budapest is more likely.

  88. bomag says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Sigh. People using higher intelligence to convince themselves to go extinct. Are there enough people on the other side of this equation to make a difference?

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  89. Anonymous[288] • Disclaimer says:
    @Odyssey

    The predominate academic consensus is that today’s Gypsies are the direct descendants of lower caste Indians, Doms, basically the same root as ‘Rom’ which means ‘man’ in their lingo, who were basically rounded up en masse during the Muslim invasion of India, and sent beyond the Hindu Kush by their Muslim masters to act as slaves to the Muslim army.
    Interestingly, Doms in India still specialise in the trades that Gypsies used to perform in Europe. They are a low caste, basically Dalits or untouchables.

    • Replies: @Odyssey
  90. J.Ross says:

    OT — Supreme Court can’t figure out who leaked the Dobbs decision. Actual Justices were not interviewed, and probably not clerks either. Spoiler alert it was Roberts.

  91. Jack D says:
    @Steve Sailer

    The traditional job of Gypsies in Europe was as “tinkers”. Tinkers were itinerant pot and pan fixers. No small town could support a full time tinker but the Gypsies would roll into town once a year and everyone would bring them their broken cookware and they would fix it up. They would build a really big bonfire and throw the pots in there and burn off all the crud like a self cleaning oven. They would hammer out the dents and fix up any loose or broke rivets. If it was copper they would re-tin the lining. They would solder the pinholes and return your pot/kettle back to you looking good as new.

    Playing music at weddings and other celebrations and telling your fortune were other Gypsy occupations.

    This was a socially useful function – if all Gypsies did was rob and steal, they would not have been tolerated for centuries. This is not to say that a few chickens might not go missing on the morning after they left town.

  92. Jack D says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Australian aborigines have a taboo against saying the name of dead people. I think these concerns usually relate to the spirit or ghost of the dead being disturbed and summoned back to haunt you or cause bad things to happen to you.

    You are being too Western and literal minding – X is dead, he can’t harm me now. In other cultures, that’s where your troubles BEGIN.

    • Replies: @Jim
    , @Ed Case
  93. Bernie says:
    @Anonymous

    In David Irving’s book on Goebbels, there was an item about the Nazis outlawing fortune tellers in Germany when they came to power. But many tried to ignore the new law. Irving notes that Goebbels wrote the following in his diary:

    “Remarkably enough, these clairvoyants could not foresee they were about the end up in jail!”

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  94. theMann says:
    @Steve Sailer

    They are known as exceptional horse trainers as well.

  95. @Anonymous

    Oh well, interesting facts! Then who cares what happens to white people.

    And sensible policies? LOL Yes, because we are totally dealing with a sensible enemy. Maybe elect a nice moderate like Nixon or Bush Sr, and see how that works out.

    But Steve Sailer is decidedly not sensible when it comes to issues he actually cares about (like Covid Lockdowns or his anti-Russia kick).

    But if you don’t care what happens to white people – and most you guys don’t – then yeah, go play with anagrams or talk about Big Black Champions.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  96. @Anonymous

    The psychos readers are serious scammers. I went with my girlfriend to a psychic shop that had a gigantic sign that read “$5 palm reading special”. We went inside and the women read my girlfriend palms, then she said that will be $20. We asked why the change in price and she gave us the full palm reading when the sign referred to a basic 5-minute palm reading. This was not made clear to us as the psychic didn’t stop us after 5 minutes to alert us to the change in price.

    When I refused to pay, she began to be angry and aggressively started demanding more money for the trouble we were putting her through. My girlfriend wanted to just pay the $25 to calm the mad psychic down, but I refused. The psychic, then started insulting us, and suggested to my girlfriend that she leave me because I am too cheap.

    What was really interesting was that despite me catching her in the bait and switch, she continued upsell if us on her wildly overpriced deluxe packages such as a $250 “spiritual consultation” and a $500 “life reading.”

    I did some googling and learned these are gypsy psychics, who pray on vulnerable young women who are spending daddy’s money.

    • Replies: @Veteran Aryan
  97. @Johann Ricke

    These guys are just pissed off that their movement can only attract trannies and homeless women.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  98. @Anonymous

    In the Northeast of the US, the most “legitimate” business Gypsies are known for running are those psychic reading shops. You know those ones with small storefronts with neon “Psychic” signs where you sit with a lady who looks into a crystal ball or does Tarot card readings and tells you your future.

    On the West coast their standard MO is to beg with a baby.

    Sometimes a man will play music nearby. He will seem friendly and won’t have the creep vibe of drug addicted beggars.

    People assume they are Mexicans or Guatemalans that are fresh over the border and looking for work.

    If you aren’t sure just walk by and ask que pasa?.

    They will usually scatter if you start taking pictures.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
  99. @Steve Sailer

    My wife agrees that some have become great musicians, but she is under no illusions about Gypsies. Outside her family’s apartment in Romania, there are cages built around the dumpsters to keep the Gypsies from picking the garbage. Still, they manage to break in some mornings like bears.

    On the nice pedestrian walkways it is common to have to shoo away Gypsy pickpocket children, or to have to walk around old, crying Gypsy women lying on the sidewalk begging. I wear a zipped-shut travel wallet strapped to my waist under my pants when I am there.

    Gypsies are known to have put children on railroad tracks to have their legs cut off by trains so that they can become beggars. At least that’s the story I was told.

    I have a photograph I took of a Gypsy father and his little son going through the garbage outside our building. Dad saw me and gave me a fuck-you fist gesture as I was taking the picture.

    Like the people who have to live around them, I despise the breed. Misguided, Western do-gooders have built them free houses there and set up charities. Despite all that, the Gypsies refuse to assimilate and become honest members of society. They are parasites.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  100. @JimDandy

    I’ve watched a Clown Town News report on how a gang of travelers is in the area and scamming people.

    Then with a follow up on how scammers can be of any origin.

    So watch out for scammers of a certain origin but don’t pass any judgement.

    But there is still nothing like Clown Town News in the South:

    ….suspect is Black, 6’5 and has tattoos. Authorities said to be careful as he is armed and dangerous and has killed two people. Now let’s check over to Bob with a special report on how to stay safe when boating.

  101. Alfa158 says:
    @SOL

    We are importing more potential victims as well for the criminals to prey on because we have to keep the population of wolves and deer balanced.
    What I didn’t see from the story is why the Gypsies are preying on Asian immigrants in particular. Is it because Asians have more stuff to steal? Latinos don’t have as much and are less likely to put up with this even if they did? There aren’t enough old White people left in California to provide a target?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  102. @TelfoedJohn

    Hedgehogs (killed with a stick), chickens (liberated) and fish (traditionally
    poisoned with Cocculus seeds, which also have other uses) are covered
    in 1in. clay and left in the fire until clay is hard; no effort wasted plucking,
    scaling or skinning and very tasty 😉
    – No European has any doubts what all the “Romanians” (or “Slovaks”) in the crime
    stats mean; in the Habsburg realm they were forcibly settled under Maria Theresia
    but apart from a few carpet merchants and musicians to no avail – squalor,
    truancy and thieving; those who want to work usually identify as “Greeks” in the EU.

    (and yes, the actual Romanians hate it)

  103. California is an ideal hunting ground for Gypsies because they look like Indians and in California Indians are thought of as engineers with much better things to do than to rob you.

    • Replies: @Gordo
  104. @Mr. Anon

    The Wokiest blokes around these parts have started using the term, member(s) of the Romani Community or, sometimes, just Romani(s). That’s because of the viciously marginalizing stereotypes which have grown up around the term, Roma.
    Hmmm?
    Of course, as we all know, stereotypes are created out of whole cloth by Nazi bigots in order to spread lies about some specific class of victims.

  105. @Almost Missouri

    It’s just body language for, “Come on, man, you know the ACLU will spring me before the ink is dry on my arraignment paperwork.”

    • Agree: Corn
  106. @MM

    When it comes to Oberlin College (I’m thinking of Gibson’s Bakery) it’s not town vs gown but more like town vs saggy pants.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  107. @International Jew

    Sewanee (The University of the South) is probably the only college left in the USA where you would have actual gownies, but since it’s on a mountaintop, there isn’t much of a town there.

  108. Targeting Asians…

    I’m waiting for Unz to jump into this thread to explain how the Gypsies are magically influenced to target these Asians by Trump calling COVID the “China virus”. They must watch Fox News just like black youths.

  109. @LondonBob

    They are supposed to be from a caste of traveling circus performers, more representative of India than the Jains or other elite Indian castes.

    As I understand it, and this is more from Wikipedia et. al. than my interactions with mostly STEM Indians, there’s “varna” which I associate with caste, that’s the vertical stratification of society from Brahmins at the top with three others below them, then the “untouchables” or Dalits who belong to none, along with the “tribals” about which I know very little.

    There’s a massive further horizontal stratification of the society into “jāti” which are about 30,000 endogamous groups; that fact has got to be very HBD significant.

    Per Wikipedia the non-Indian word caste is also used to describe them. Plenty of them have “an association with an occupation,” I think of the ones who run so many motels in the US. Not sure where the Jains would fit into that, or Sikhs or Muslims for that matter, but it sure sounds like a (portion of a?) jāti migrated out from the subcontinent for whatever reasons to become the “Gypsies” we know and love. Or not as the case may be.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    , @BB753
  110. @John Johnson

    Are they guys? Are those women? Is everyone a troon?

    These are the least sexually dimorphic perp pics I have ever seen.

    But in Newspeak, least dimorphic = most Diverse™.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  111. Dumbo says:

    Why not call them Zingari, like the Italians? It sounds nicer than Roma or Roma Travelers.

    The problem is not how they are called, it’s what they do.

    • Agree: Old Prude
  112. Genetics says:

    Roma in San Diego.. didn’t even know that was a thing.

    Can’t wait for the Mbuti crime wave of 2035, due of course to racist heightophobia

  113. @TelfoedJohn

    Gypsy music is often praised, but I wonder why gypsy cuisine has never taken off?

    You can show us a video of a woman pulling shit out of her ass and throwing it and then ask why their cuisine has never taken off? I mean, really.

  114. @Steve Sailer

    So basically Gypsies are a breeding experiment that selected for musicians. That would explain their bad behavior.

    • LOL: J.Ross
  115. @YetAnotherAnon

    True. Irish travelers are “genetically” Irish, but no different from Roma Gypsies in chief elements of their culture (parasitism, lack of any interest in social progress, thievery, folk occultism, secret code-languages, outbursts of violence, extreme clannishness, ..)

  116. @Almost Missouri

    That’s nothing compared to Portland Antifa’s monomorphic militant corps:

    My favorite is what looks like Kevin Smith with rainbow split hair in row 3.

    There is also a straight up burn victim.

    Orwell commented on how the left attracts the extreme fringes of society. He made this observation when going to meetings as a leftist and found it disturbing. They are clearly not from the working class.

    I have said many times that Marxists don’t actually read Marx. They look like these people and want to break stuff and steal your shit. That is all there is to it.

  117. @Buzz Mohawk

    As I wrote some time ago …

    I’ve seen & interacted with some Gypsies all my life, and there is not a trace of doubt they’re of Indian origin. Virtually all of them, with some exceptions, look like you’ve fished them out of India yesterday. And linguistically, they’re Indian 100%. Both looks & languages. Of course, real Hindu Indians in Europe can’t stand them.

    Culturally, they are found in areas of low-level occultism, similar to practice in most of India (without high esoterica of Hindu cultures, just folksy thievery & superstition).

    Also, I don’t know why the author credits them with some high mental capabilities.
    Gypsies are a pest. Their behavior is the same, from Spain to Russia.True, some of them succeed to break away from that parasitic culture & become normal, functioning persons (I know about one Roma physician, internist- a decent & smart guy). But most of them are thieves, burglars or beggars. And they are mentally-emotionally immature. An acquaintance of mine witnessed an exchange between two of them. It seemed it would end up in a fight. Yet, nothing.

    It was:

    A: You are talking to me?
    B: Yes, but you-to me?
    A: I am talking to you!
    B: And…?
    A: Yes, I am talking to you, but are you talking to me?
    B: Me?
    A: Yes, you. And I am talking to you, now!
    B: But I was talking to you!
    A: You were talking? To me?
    B: Yes, I was.
    A: But I was talking to you, too.
    ………………………..
    It lasted ca. 10 minutes & they went away. No info more, just: talking, me, you..
    Retarded is too generous a word.

    Among other things, I blame European idiots of high caliber (Victor Hugo, Pushkin, Liszt, Georges Bizet, Prosper Merimee, Garcia Lorca, Garcia Marquez, —) who romanticized this trash.They always live & move in groups- I’ve never seen a single Gypsy walking; they are thieves, and due to liberal legal policy, only a part of them ends up in jail (they mostly steal refuse and other things from factories); a female Czech writer had adopted two Roma boys (she was temporarily infertile, but later gave birth to a son). She wrote a memoir of desperation because those Roma kids- she treated them even better than her own son- turned to stealing, lying, alcohol & violence, while her son became a normal boy.

    Now, these adoptees are both in jail.So much about nature/nurture debate. The Call of the Wild.

  118. Gypsies are a case of genetic exclusivity working against the group.

    The men have remained small by keeping out European genes. They have their women locked down through religious and cultural pressure.

    You have to wonder how many of the men choose scamming because they are 5’2 and hate the world.

    Supposedly they have a religious belief where God gave them a pass on stealing.

    So glad we let them in. They have a community in Texas of all places and there was a documentary a while back that showed how they have a ton of unexplained income.

    If a short ethnic looking man ever offers discounted home services because they just need “one more job” before the season is over then shut the door immediately.

    • Replies: @SafeNow
  119. @John Johnson

    Yeah, Portland definitely trawls the freakazoid shoals (though one pities the burn victim), but I can still reliably guess the sex of 80%+ of them. With the Atlanta group, I’m really not sure about the birth sex of most of them, and would probably “misgender” [modern sense] 100% of them.

    One might chalk some ambiguity up to the mugshots, but I recently went to a social function at nearby lefty enclave where there were an alarming number of people whose gender/sex was completely undetectable even in 3D reality. Just amorphous soy people. As if they had been assimilated by the blobborg. Agree with Orwell, it was a little bit frightening.

    Also agree that modern “Marxists” don’t know any Marx. I’ve asked them. That’s one of the reasons I’m disinclined to call them “Cultural Marxist” and such.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  120. Guest007 says:
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    Zelensky was born in Kryvyi Rih in what is now the Ukraine. Would most Ukrainians be better off living under Russian rule with Putin in charge? Why are so many people ready to give the bully Putin whatever he wants?

    • Troll: Bill Jones
  121. Anonymous[421] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alfa158

    In terms of coloring, but not particularly of facial features, Gypsies do resemble Mestizos – as do subcons, Arabs, Armenians, Iranians and middle easterners in general. Likely the western Europe of the future will be completed the same way.

  122. Stealth says:
    @TyRade

    Isn’t Fury a different kind of traveler?

  123. One might chalk some ambiguity up to the mugshots, but I recently went to a social function at nearby lefty enclave where there were an alarming number of people whose gender/sex was completely undetectable even in 3D reality. Just amorphous soy people. As if they had been assimilated by the blobborg. Agree with Orwell, it was a little bit frightening..

    In college I concluded that around 90% of female leftists could be demotivated with male sexual attention. But who would volunteer for such a duty? Practically no one. In pioneer days someone would have been forced to marry them but in modern times they get Sociology degrees and become unhinged blue-haired leftists. The idea of them reading Marx is a joke. At most they saw the motorcycle diaries while high.

    The remaining 10% were career leader types. They wanted to boss around other leftists as practice for their planned career in the city. They all had an “asshole boyfriend” that doesn’t care about the planet. What an asshole. I can’t believe he thinks a shot of Jager is foreplay. And he doesn’t even care about politics. Such an asshole. He is picking me up soon so I gotta wrap up our social justice meeting.

    • LOL: Kylie
  124. Anonymous[421] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Johnson

    Star Wars Cafe’ come to life.

  125. SafeNow says:

    Steve mentions Gypsy-type knife-sharpening, but when I was growing up in suburban America back in the day, this was a totally respectable trade, involving a convenient, well-kept vehicle, housing a small machine shop. The guy visited your street from time. Residents could bring out, to the polite gentleman, shears, garden clippers, or whatever, to be sharpened or repaired.

    And btw, this was one of a full range of visiting services and merchants, all well-groomed, polite, helpful, and even fun. This included the pediatrician, with her gigantic medical bag, making her afternoon house calls.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  126. @Johann Ricke

    The Daily Mail as usual doing the work Americans won’t (if they’re the MSM) has lots of details on these miscreants. The above group mugshot is of:

    1. Geoffrey Parsons, age 20, of Maryland
    2. Timothy Murphy, age 25, of Maine
    3. Spencer Bernard Liberto, age 29, of Pennsylvania
    4. Matthew Ernest Macar, age 30, of Pennsylvania
    5. Sarah Wasilewski, age 35, of Pennsylvania
    6. Christopher Reynolds, age 31, of Ohio
    7. Teresa Shen, age 31, of New York

    Who are “charged with domestic terrorism and criminal trespass, with additional charges pending….”

    And it supplies various biographical details along with many others including the name and photo of the dead one, Tweets from now deleted accounts calling for violence, etc. etc. Doesn’t have what I saw in another report about Antifa going after contractor personnel in their churches.

    The Georgia state GOPe is severely pozzed, but there’s not going to get on the wrong side of “law enforcement” especially when all the perps are white.

  127. Anon[195] • Disclaimer says:
    @TelfoedJohn

    Not that it matters, but the oni-csan poster is in Hungarian and was hacked into the billboard space.

    In other words, the work of pranksters. Not that they’re wrong.

    Lastly this was at a tram stop most likely in Budapest, not Bucharest.

  128. Do ordinary Romanians get tired of the rest of the world hearing about the hijinks of Roma from Romania and blaming Romanians?

    The man Romanians have twice elected President, most recently in 2019, is Klaus Iohannis.

    Have look at him, note his ethnic origins, and draw your own conclusions.

  129. Meanwhile in The Babylon Bee‘s favorite city, you’d have to have a Heart of Stone not to laugh at this.
    I do and I still did.

    A San Francisco art gallery owner hosed down a homeless woman whom he said refused to move from his storefront, had turned over garbage cans, and become belligerent, prompting the city to arrest him and charge him with battery.

    http://www.madnesshub.com/2023/01/san-francisco-art-gallery-owner.html

  130. BB753 says:
    @That Would Be Telling

    Nobody loves gypsies. Except themselves. They have a very high self-esteem. I can understand why they would look down on every ethnic group and land where they are allowed to roam free and rob and scam the native population. We are such suckers! Why do we suffer these people? Deportation to Antarctica or Madagascar would be the humane thing to do.

    • Replies: @Jim
  131. @Steve Sailer

    They used to have the legit job of itinerant knife sharpeners.

    Sir, I believe the proper term is cutler.

  132. @HammerJack

    Curtis Mayfield wrote this, but it was a hit for the whitest-of-the-white Brian Hyland:

    • Thanks: HammerJack
  133. PeterIke says:

    Ok, I’ll say it.

    The civilized world should get together and agree to round up and exterminate gypsies. Why not? They are a human parasite, a cancer. They have zero use and ONLY cause problems. Why should we allow them to exist? There would be absolutely nothing lost with their elimination, and very much gained.

    But everyone’s too namby-pamby to come up with a simple solution to a century’s old problem.

  134. What % of the public knows that “Roma Travelers” means Gypsies?

    I would have guessed everyone knew that Roma = Gypsy.
    (Certainly anyone over the age of 20.)

  135. SafeNow says:
    @John Johnson

    If a short ethnic looking man ever offers discounted home services because they just need “one more job” before the season is over then shut the door immediately.

    If it’s any consolation to Gypsy-plagued Texans, here in Southern California, a fast-talking Israeli migrant will sometimes come to your home, strip mall, etc., to try schmooze some extras to add to the construction project about to begin.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  136. Speaking of diversity, what’s going to happen when those given two years in the choky for wolf-whistling turn out to be mostly male Caribbeans?

    In defense of catcalling: Hearing that whistle when walking past a group of builders is the best part of my morning

  137. @countenance

    How would you know? Certainly it was not mentioned in the news.

  138. djdnn says:
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    Holy shit. Are you the most annoying human on the planet or just in whatever mental asylum you’re currently housed.

  139. @Steve Sailer

    Strong musical skills. I talked to a famous Hungarian pianist who knew Gypsies who made it through the top classical music conservatory in Budapest without being able to read music. Dyslexia is a big problem that limits their literacy, but they tend to have very good ears.

    That’s interesting. We’ve been taught to develop a cultural explanation for all such things, but I wonder if it could be genetic? The dyslexia could be, couldn’t it?

    • Replies: @Liza
  140. djdnn says:
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    I attempted to throw an edit at the bottom of my previous comment but my time had apparently run out. The point of the edit is that I am sorry for you. you are obviously unhappy with your life and, while undoubtedly there are many things you can blame for it, in this space you are blaming it on the fact that white people in your country, world, whatever, lack the tribal assistance or assabiya that other people’s are rumored to have. In actual matter of fact they only do so with any gusto during very short periods of history but that’s a separate point. My only point here is that I am sorry for you and that I wish you every happiness.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @AndrewR
  141. anon[372] • Disclaimer says:

    The gypsies are a roving band of thugs originated from India. They only make up 3.3% of Romania’s population but commit majority of the crimes and give Romania a bad name. For a long time I thought Romania is just a poor country full of gypsies, but thanks to YouTube I realize it’s actually a beautiful country that has an admixture of German, Italian(Roman), Slavic, Greek and Austro-Hungarian heritage. The majority of Romanians are actually really good looking people.

    See the real Romania with Rick Steves:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BK8wJJQiB4&ab_channel=RickSteves%27Europe

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
  142. @TelfoedJohn

    China does not represent all of East Asia. There was no Cultural Revolution in Japan (and poisonous baby formula).

    Asanuma Inejirō 浅沼稲次郎 of the Japan Socialist Party visited China in 1959, donned a Mao suit, and in a speech to the CCP, called American imperialism “the shared enemy of China and Japan”
    He was assassinated by 17-year old Yamaguchi Otoya 山口二矢 in 1960, who carried with him the letter:

    You, Asanuma Inejirō, are plotting to turn Japan communist. I have no personal enmity towards you, but you, as the leader of the Socialist Party, made abusive remarks when you visited China and are responsible for outrageous actions in the Diet, which I cannot bear. It is here that I bring thee down upon you.


    Before he hung himself, Yamaguchi wrote on his cell wall

    天皇陛下万才、七生報国

    Tennōheika Banzai. Shichishō Hōkoku

    Long live His Majesty the Emperor

    Would that I had seven lives to give for my country

    The latter phrase a reference to the famous last words of fourteenth-century samurai Kusunoki Masashige 楠木正成.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    , @Almost Missouri
  143. Kylie says:
    @Anonymous

    “…Asians— especially NE Asians— are almost childlike with their high order, high trust instincts (no doubt a product of their higher IQs).”

    Either you have a deranged sense of humor or you are utterly lacking in common sense. Possibly both.

    Their high order, high trust instincts are reserved solely for their own kind. They are every bit as predatory, invasive and opportunistic as other groups. And more successful in being so.

    I have zero sympathy for these preyed-upon Asians.

  144. @SafeNow

    If a short ethnic looking man ever offers discounted home services because they just need “one more job” before the season is over then shut the door immediately.

    If it’s any consolation to Gypsy-plagued Texans

    They actually work around the whole country to avoid being noticed. From what I can tell they like to find old ladies by themselves that don’t have any neighbors.

    , here in Southern California, a fast-talking Israeli migrant will sometimes come to your home, strip mall, etc., to try schmooze some extras to add to the construction project about to begin.

    Anyone knocking on doors for construction work in this economy should be reported to the police.

    If you can’t get on a construction crew in this economy you are either lying or terrible at the job.

  145. AndrewR says:
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    I have a lot of criticisms of Sailer but you really are a broken record. Just post a link to your blog instead of the same verbatim criticism every single comment

  146. @SafeNow

    Steve mentions Gypsy-type knife-sharpening, but when I was growing up in suburban America back in the day, this was a totally respectable trade, involving a convenient, well-kept vehicle, housing a small machine shop. The guy visited your street from time. Residents could bring out, to the polite gentleman, shears, garden clippers, or whatever, to be sharpened or repaired.

    It used to be the norm in the country for some old man to offer knife sharpening services. Usually the same guy that does small engine repair.

    Landscaping guys would have a beer outside his place while he sharpened their tools.

    There were also chainsaw guys that were pretty cheap. They would just show up with a chainsaw looking for work. They would clear trees and chop wood. Haven’t seen them in a long time.

  147. ATBOTL says:

    Gypsies are Indians and/or Pakistanis.

    • Replies: @Jim
  148. Jim says:
    @Colin Wright

    They don’t seem to have higher IQ’s than American blacks. Rushton tested some Roma village in Eastern Europe and got an average IQ in the 70’s. US blacks average about 85 which is close to the world average of about 88.

    All cultures have a moral preference for or bias to their in-group and against outsiders. But this difference is extreme in the case of the Roma. They have no moral qualms whatsoever about harming non-Roma. They are essentially obligate parasites. In this regard they are very different from blacks.

  149. tyrone says:
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    Hey, can anyone explain what Controlled Opposition is?

    ……..If you don’t know you’re beyond hope.

  150. @Almost Missouri

    Yeah, when I see the term “cultural Marxist “ used by right wingers I think that the right winger doesn’t understand Marxism. But it could also refer to left wingers who don’t understand Marxism either.

  151. Jim says:
    @Liger

    Such is the story. The Roma language belongs to the Indian branch of the Aryan languages. It
    seems most closely related to the languages spoken in the Punjab. It also shows substantial influence from Armenian and Greek suggesting that the Roma migrated from the Punjab to Anatolia and lived there for some time before entering Europe.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  152. What you MEN and WOMEN of UNZ need is a RACIAL EQUITY CONSULTATION

  153. tyrone says:
    @Anonymous

    Can someone explain to me why Gypsies have a bad reputation in Europe

    …..Just pray to God they never find you.

    Honest question, I’m 29 and have never quite understood their story.

    ….29?, hey, that’s a miracle right there , now, thank the lord.

  154. tyrone says:
    @John Johnson

    What do you expect ,they probably live in a giant pile of trash covered by a tarp , of course a superior species such as a brown rat would thrive under such circumstances.

    • LOL: John Johnson
  155. New Dealer says: • Website

    Roma travelers? Tourists from Rome?

    San Diego is racist! The current woke-official name for them is Romani-Americans. See wiki.

    I thought they were quaint until I lived in England for a few years. Everyone with a brain undamaged by elite education held gypsies in profound contempt for their thieving ways.

    About 15 years ago I got in to a little HR trouble at work by talking about how mad I was at the gypsies for stealing my bike in England.

    *No gypsies – bike safe and unlocked for a year.
    *Carnival arrives, gypsies appear – bike disappears overnight.
    *Fraudulent beggars in public crowds, pickpockets.
    *Dirty children allegedly starving, on sidewalk in front of churches.
    *And so on.

    • Replies: @Muggles
  156. @YetAnotherAnon

    …“I realised that even though I wanted to have a family at that point, I couldn’t really bring myself to do it,” she says. “I had to say to him: ‘I don’t know if I can do this, considering what we know – if there isn’t a political will to fix this, we really don’t stand much of a chance.’”…

    Where does The Guardian find these people?

    They could be making them up — but I think they actually exist.

    Of course, they could be fabricating the conversation. Real people, concocted stories.

    My wife does stuff vaguely like that. It’s all much more innocent, but I’m biting my tongue…

  157. jamie b. says:

    Those mugshots make it hard not to take physiognomy seriously.

  158. Do ordinary Romanians get tired of the rest of the world hearing about the hijinks of Roma from Romania and blaming Romanians?

    Gypsies are now the culturally dominant group in Romania, much like blacks are here in the US. Here we have the numinous negro; there they have the numinous gypsy. A few years ago, amren featured a fascinating article on Romania, written by the husband of a Romanian, that touched on this:

    https://www.amren.com/features/2017/12/is-romania-part-of-the-west-gypsy/

    Anyway, given this, I would guess that the average Romanian (especially younger ones) would view the hijinks of the Roma abroad with a sort of perverse pride as “keepin’ it real”.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    , @Art Deco
  159. @Guest007

    “Would most Ukrainians be better off living under Russian rule with Putin in charge? ”

    They’d be better off under Russian rule if Coco The Clown was in charge.

    At the moment, under Zelensky’s rule, they are very badly off. There are some refugees near where I live who are by no means gung-ho Zelenskyites (they’re Russian speakers from Kharkov), and their main concern is staying as far away from Ukraine as possible, that their 18 year old son not be conscripted as cannon-fodder.

    It’s never a good thing if your elected leader has no loyalty to your country and people, as we found out in the UK with Boris Johnson.

    • Thanks: BB753
  160. J.Ross says:

    OT, or is it? Gentlemen, the most unintentionally hilarious article of the new century. Remember all those third world debt-trap construction projects China has been doing in Africa and South America? Remember every internet gif and webm you’ve ever seen of Chinese construction?
    https://archive.ph/hXvXM

    The head of the country’s electricity regulator, Tauseef Farooqui, told Pakistan’s senate in November that he was concerned the tunnel could collapse just four years after the 969-megawatt plant became operational. That would be disastrous for a nation that has been battered by rising energy prices, said Mr. Farooqui. The closure of the plant has already cost Pakistan about $44 million a month in higher power costs since July, according to the regulator.

  161. J.Ross says:
    @PeterIke

    Oh sure, easy to say, but where would we be without Somali contributions to aerospace and microscopy?

  162. Jim says:
    @Jack D

    The Comanche have, at least in their traditional culture, a similar taboo. In fact any mention or reference to the dead is taboo.

  163. Ed Case says:
    @Jack D

    Australian aborigines have a taboo against saying the name of dead people.

    One tribe, the Arrente.

    The other 600 odd tribes had no such taboo.

    • Thanks: Renard
  164. Anonymous[564] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Johnson

    My eyes were drawn to the (((hottie))) to the left of the top right corner. Maybe she is the ringleader.

  165. Jim says:
    @ATBOTL

    The Roma language belongs to the Indian branch of the Aryan languages. It is most closely related to the languages spoken in the Punjab. It also shows substantial influence from Greek and Armenian. This suggests that the Roma migrated from the Punjab to Anatolia and lived there for some time before entering Europe.

  166. @John Johnson

    People assume that beggars and homeless are synonymous. In fact, lots of beggers (especially the better ones) have a roof overhead (a cheap apartment/room or crashing with a friend or relative). But they can still make decent money during the day shaking a cup at the entry of the CVS or wherever.

    Suppose 50 people an hour have to pass by you and your cup. Maybe one in five will donate out of guilt and/or empathy. The typical “donation” is probably a buck, with an occasional $5 or $20 for good measure. It’s not exactly a dream job, but it financially beats working at McDonald for minimum wage. And it involves a lot less effort.

    Meanwhile, the really down-and-out homeless are too mentally ill or drug addled to consistently work a begging grift. (You’ve got to stake out a good spot and put some effort into being just pathetic enough to be deserving but not so repellent that people won’t even go near you. Having a dog, baby, or claiming you are a veteran are solid strategies).

  167. @bomag

    “People using higher intelligence to convince themselves to go extinct. Are there enough people on the other side of this equation to make a difference?”

    Well yes, that was one of the reasons they stopped their campaign, the wrong sort of people were drawing the wrong conclusions.

    https://gendread.substack.com/p/to-have-a-baby-or-not-birthstrike

    But Pepino says the backlash also conjures “even darker stuff, like, oh stupid white women not having babies, they’re contributing to the Muslim takeover.”

    They actually say that “they don’t want poor people to stop having kids”, and “they are distressed at how they lost control of their own narrative”. Which makes you wonder why they aren’t having kids.

    Our only hope is to convince middle class whites that working class whites will have racist kids, and that it’s their duty to birth and raise the next anti-racist generation 😉

  168. Jim says:
    @BB753

    The Roma regard non-Roma, the gadje, as unclean. If a gadje is in the home of a Roma, after the gadje leaves it is necessary to ritually purify the whole place.

    Roma culture makes an extreme moral distinction between in-group and out-group. The Roma regard gadje as hardly human.

    • Agree: BB753, New Dealer
    • Thanks: Renard
  169. @SafeNow

    You’ve got a lot of dummies in your clothes.

  170. @Anonymous

    Honest question, I’m 29 and have never quite understood their story.

    311, the reason for that is TPTB really–really–do not want anyone thinking, especially thinking clearly and logically about the gypsies.

    Broadening on Nachum point:

    As hunter-gatherers our ancestors were very violent. Tribes attacking each other for territory, and raiding and stealing their women. But because everyone was a hunter-gatherer, you couldn’t make real slaves of other men and make them work–doing what? and they’d just run off. And there wasn’t much to take–besides their women. So everyone had to work for themselves–feed themselves.

    With settlement and agriculture this radically changed. Now there was a living to be had off other people’s labor. The most straightforward was to declare yourself the boss–the lord, the king. The guys strong enough, made other people pay “taxes”. If you can maintain control you can declare other people to be your serfs or capture others as slaves. Or you can raid. Swoop in from the steppes or the seas or the hills and grab productive settled people’s stuff. And a few tribes developed strategies to live as a separate tribe but near/amongst some other productive people making a living with some parasitic niche–often as some sort of middle man, but also itinerant scammers.

    Boil it down you could argue the positive progress of history has been productive people working to take control and see off, beat back, reign in the parasites. Law and order. Modern firearms seeing off the steppe barbarians. The nation state. Republican government tossing out various “nobility” grifts. The co-op movement. Regulating finance. But the parasitic grifters are resilient. See our vast collection of verbalist parasites today–not just eating well off their shakedowns and comfy sinecures but making a living excusing and enabling the violent criminal classes!

    Gypsies are simply a tribe of criminal parasites. They add zero–negative–value to the lives to productive people. And–in a correctly functioning nation–productive people would simply expel them from their midst. “Be gone gypsies, you are not allowed to be here.” Ideally a separate nation where they would have to actually work to feed themselves, rather than being parasites.

    But … they entire thrust of minoritarianism is “White gentiles must not be allowed to live for themselves in their own communities and nations, according to their own norms and values. White gentiles must be open to minorities, must make themselves available for looting.”

    So they really don’t want you thinking about gypsies. Because then you might think about their utter uselessness, about parasitism. And then start thinking about your most fundamental right–which they hate–of freedom of association. The right to form community with whom you want by mutual agreement and live and govern yourselves according to your own mutually agreed norms.

    • Agree: Kylie, Renard, ben tillman
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    , @Bert
  171. @Steve Sailer

    They also were also known to be involved in asphalt paving (of home driveways) and general “home repairs.”

    • Replies: @Corn
  172. @Anonymous

    “using gay things like logic and evidence”

    I’ve long suspected these things were gay. Thanks for the confirmation.

  173. Muggles says:
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    Do Steve Sailer and his “donors” on this blog enjoy seeing young white men die under the command of swishy trannies and affirmative action cases like Lloyd Austin.

    So you are now leading in the 2023 iSteve commentator Troll of the Year Award.

    Current topic has nothing to do with Ukraine-Russian conflict.

    Lloyd Austin appears to not be in command of the “young white men” on both sides of the conflict.

    Most trolls usually have some vague link to reality in their posts. You seem to be merely autistic.

    (Apologies to actual autistics…)

    • Disagree: YetAnotherAnon
  174. Art Deco says:
    @Anonymous

    Richard John Neuhaus offered a capsule review of this book when it appeared. He said the author against her intentions succeeds in persuading the reader that the Gypsies are extraordinarily disagreeable to be around. They don’t bathe, their children do not attend school, and they form crude criminal syndicates devoted to theft and fraud.

    60 Minutes had a segment ca. 1988 on gangs of Gypsy children who worked as pickpockets for a controller. Diane Sawyer was the principal correspondent. She noted in the voice over illustrating a scene with her on a city bus with these kids that they were very adept at relieving her of her belongings without her noticing and that they stank. French law enforcement responded to this problem with learned helplessness. Eventually, they persuaded one of these children to spill the beans about for whom they were working, but I think these characters were able to skip town before the police could collar them.

    (They don’t bear much resemblance to blacks or Jews, btw).

  175. Anonymous[256] • Disclaimer says:
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    Literally hundreds of millions of white people agree with Steve on COVID and Russia. Where is your loyalty to them?

  176. Art Deco says:
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    Hey, can anyone explain what Controlled Opposition is?

    Ross Douthat

  177. @AnotherDad

    “The right to form community with whom you want by mutual agreement and live and govern yourselves according to your own mutually agreed norms.”

    Which is all the poor people of the Donbass and Luhansk asked for after the Nuland coup, and the same people who won’t concede you that right won’t concede it to them either.

  178. Muggles says:
    @New Dealer

    There is a current plague of these crooks now infesting suburban Houston.

    They come and go, main tells are expensive cars and females begging with small children.

    The well dressed males approach naive housewives shopping a grocery stores with some concocted lie about losing a wallet or needing to “borrow” a $100 in cash.

    They hang around parking lots and sometimes the females beg while playing a violin. Their schemes are endless and always fake. They will shoplift and pickpocket

    They infest tourist sites in Europe and nearly every “speak English?” query at a tourist site is done by a gypsy. Often work in teams in pick-pocketing. Despite my and my wife’s caution, they have scammed us out of Metro tickets in Paris. Have done many other unsuccessful attempts.

    White People! Not Jewish!

    Whatever they are, best avoided like stray dogs.

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
  179. @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    “Hey, can anyone explain what Controlled Opposition is?”

    Assuming this is rhetorical so I’ll put out my own question: Does anyone know how much Controlled Opposition pays? I’m looking for jobs because it seems no one else in my family works for a living.

  180. BB753 says:
    @J.Ross

    Both “paysan” and “payen” ( pagan) have the same origin: latin “pagus” ( country district). From “pagus” you get “pagensis” ( paysan – “of the locality” , or local habitant, if you like) and “paganus” ( same meaning as “paysan”, but later specialized to refer to non-Christians, uncivilized ( see: “sauvage”).
    https://www.cnrtl.fr/etymologie/pays

  181. @Mike Tre

    It’s more complicated. Japanese anti-communism is mainly concerned with Soviet and CCP imperialism.

    Yamaguchi the adolescent was pro-US. Whereas Mishima, who took his actions ten years after, was anti-US as well as anti-Soviet/CCP.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  182. Mike Tre says:
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    I was making a cheesy joke. On a serious note, I very much appreciate your summaries of East Asian culture/history here in the comments. They’re better than anyone else’s here IMO.

  183. @Johann Ricke

    Looks like a new trend, the trans-gang.

  184. Jack D says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    I remember years ago the NY Times had a story about some black guy who made his living doing the “I lost my wallet and I need train fare” grift at Penn Station. He had an apt. in Queens and put on a suit and tie every day and made a decent living.

    There was also an obituary of a well known guy who sold vegetable peelers on the street. He had an apartment on the Upper East Side and was apparently quite wealthy.

  185. @Steve Sailer

    It’s interesting the occupations that go with an itinerant lifestyle: knife sharpening…

    Gypsies tend to be the opposite of Jews,

    Ironically, my knife sharpener is ‘Frankie the Jew.’ Everyone literally calls him that. Comes around once a year; five dollars per large knife, does the little ones for free. Also keeps bees. Best honey I’ve ever had. He seems to do pretty well overall, spends winters at his house in Puerto de la Cruz (yet another irony).

  186. J.Ross says:

    OT — India buys more Russian oil than ever before, but the top buyer “might” surprise anyone who went out and bought a Ukrainian flag.
    https://archive.is/KUcwY

  187. @PeterIke

    Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates are of the same viewpoint, not necessarily with Gypsies but with whites.

  188. Anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @Guest007

    Why are so many people ready to give the bully Putin whatever he wants?

    Why are so many willing to give the bully Victoria Nuland and George Soros whatever they want?

    They used the CIA to overthrow of the legitimately elected government of Ukraine in 2014.

  189. @Hypnotoad666

    People assume that beggars and homeless are synonymous. In fact, lots of beggers (especially the better ones) have a roof overhead (a cheap apartment/room or crashing with a friend or relative). But they can still make decent money during the day shaking a cup at the entry of the CVS or wherever.

    When I lived in the city we had a block that was managed by gangs.

    Beggars would actually take shifts.

    I was actually at the stop light once when I watched the changing of the guard. Nothing was said, they just switched places like professionals.

    Suppose 50 people an hour have to pass by you and your cup. Maybe one in five will donate out of guilt and/or empathy. The typical “donation” is probably a buck, with an occasional $5 or $20 for good measure.

    Oh I would sometimes eat lunch and try to figure out how much they made per hour. I really found the city to be pretty boring and would do such things to entertain myself.

    The average hobo didn’t get that much. I worked an office tower and our guy would beg about 2-3 hours before hitting the bar. He would probably make 10 bucks in change. If someone gave him a 20 then he would split.

    A woman can do pretty well in the right area. I had a pretty White woman ask me for money in a beach town. I really just started laughing.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  190. Thea says:

    When I went to Europe in the 80s my teacher warned us about the Gypsy gangs of pre-pubescent thrives. Before wokeness you could just tell the truth.

    Some posters are using the term Gypsy promiscuously to refer to both low-caste Indians arriving in Medieval Eastern Europe as well as itinerant Irish Travelers.(tinkers). The Travelers aren’t Gypsy at all. Just nomadic locals. Likely created by English landlords’ cruel policy toward Celts.

  191. @Bardon Kaldian

    That’s interesting. How old were the boys when she adopted them?

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  192. @Jim

    …It seems most closely related to the languages spoken in the Punjab. It also shows substantial influence from Armenian and Greek suggesting that the Roma migrated from the Punjab to Anatolia and lived there for some time before entering infesting Europe.

    Fixed it for you.

    Incidentally, while we were in Turkey, I didn’t see any Gypsies. Odd…I looked it up. Turkey has an enormous Gypsy population. I asked a waiter about it.

    He said something vague about them living by themselves by ‘hunting and gathering.’

    Whatever — obviously the Turks have reached an understanding with the Gypsies.

  193. Incidentally, isn’t it about time for Corvinus to gallop to the rescue and denounce all this blatant thought crime?

    Corvinus? Should I write your post for you, or do you want to do it?

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  194. @PeterIke

    Solution: Place them in Afghanistan.

  195. Corn says:
    @R.G. Camara

    My favorite part about gypsies is how lefty American college students studying abroad will come back talking about how awful they are but then refuse to apply the same logic to blacks.

    I know a Finn. When Gypsies came up in conversation once she said, “I’m sorry, but I’ve had nothing but bad experiences with them”.

    I get the impression Europeans talk about Gypsies the way white liberals in America talk about blacks:

    “I’m not racist but……..”

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Art Deco
  196. Odyssey says:
    @Anonymous

    Thanks. You mentioned another interesting thing. DOM is the name of a group in India that is related to Gypsies. The word itself came from Sanskrit. The source of this word is the same one from ancient Rome (dom-us) and from the Monty Payton’s clip in the previous thread – Not Hoax. So, the Aryans brought that word (=home, house) from Europe to India in 2000 BC, and the Latin language also adopted that word about, let’s say, 6-700 BC from the original language.

  197. Corn says:
    @Prester John

    I don’t know about Roma Gypsies but Irish Travellers are known for those trades. Especially the paving.

  198. Odyssey says:

    There’s an interesting paradox here that someone touched on above. The ancestors of most of the commentators here (Western Europeans and derivatives) were nomads themselves (like Gypsies), who came to Europe from the Russian steppes 2800BC (British Isles 2500BC). They did not know about agriculture, metals, building houses, crafts, literacy. They just followed their herds.

    They came to Europe where was an old, highly developed Vinca civilization (the cradle of Euro civilisation) that 4000 years before them smelted metal, processed gold, had houses, multi-story temples and urban settlements, literacy, agriculture, crafts, mini-skirts, knew mathematics, astronomy, calendar, etc. The nomads came with stone axes and committed genocide against the natives of Europe.

    The official (mainstream) science calls those nomads ‘Indo-Europeans’ and claims that they brought a language that they imposed on all of Europe. It would be like today’s Gypsies coming to Silicon Valley and imposing computer terminology. Another less known fact is that the descendants of those nomads from the Russian steppes have started almost all wars in the past 4,800 years. We should think about it.

    • Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum
    , @BB753
  199. Cato says:

    At the entrance of my neighborhood Safeway, a South Asian-looking family will occasionally station themselves with begging signs. Roma, the ethnicity that soured the Schengen free movement agreement in the EU. Roma, a people who look on the non-Roma as resources to exploit. Pickpockets in Paris, conning old folks out of their savings in Denmark, mass shoplifting in America. Probably the only immigrant ethnicity that is less desirable than… well, you know what I was about to say.

  200. J.Ross says:
    @Anonymous

    Incidentally, have you heard about the southern front? You will by Monday.

    • Replies: @Veteran Aryan
  201. A Gypsy robs a Hmong in San Diego.

    Some people say the Hmong are lying, thieving, uneducated, lazy, wife-beating dog-eaters. Whereas Gypsies don’t often eat dogs.

  202. @anonymous

    Serves them right. A patronizing cucks one should never be.

    Sir Walter Scott had a novel , “Quentin Dorward” or hows that spelled. The novel sort of explained why Gypsies are so useful to the Government. Which protects them from the peasants, always.

  203. Ukrainian Chernobyl Default Dogs

  204. @Odyssey

    Fairy tales. I mean, isnt that obvious that no one willingly goes places prior to a Globalization. Europeans are not Caucasians nor Aryans, they were always so. Negroes are endemic to Africa. Etc.

    Universal Empires try to move nations around : Romans, then Brits, then Unkle Joe. Success to this was always mixed. Mankind had failed to relocate Jews to Israel right before our eyes.

  205. @Anonymous

    The point is, he is able to bring a robust advocacy to those ideas. It’s just genocidal policies towards his own people that he finds a yawner.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  206. mc23 says:
    @TelfoedJohn

    A White co-worker went to China to meet his bride’s extended family. They were well aware of shoddy Chinese products. They told him when they had a chance they bought products from Taiwan or Singapore, China was their 3rd choice.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  207. @Corn

    I know a Finn. When Gypsies came up in conversation once she said, “I’m sorry, but I’ve had nothing but bad experiences with them”.

    Once on a Swedish train, a stocky but traditionally-dressed Gypsy matron entered the car, yelling “Tukholma? Tukholma?” She wanted to know if it was the train for Stockholm, which it was. But note that she asked in Finnish, and assumed everyone (or at least someone) would understand the counterintuitive Finnish name for the city. She likely spoke nothing but Roma and Finnish.

    I once made a racy joke in Finland about blacks. Their word for the color (or whatever black is) is musta, and the suffix for ethnicity is -lainen, plural -laiset. E.g., englatilaiset is Englishmen. Thus I used mustalaiset.

    They told me that was actually their word for Gypsies.

    Another joke:

    European: Why are you Americans so hard on your blacks?
    American: Wh are you Europeans so hard on your Gypsies?
    European: That’s different. They really are as bad as we say they are.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  208. mc23 says:
    @Tono-Bungay

    The same in Germany. It’s still okay to hate Gypsies

  209. @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    It’s just genocidal policies towards his own people that he finds a yawner.

    Perhaps because with 200 million white Americans out there, such policies have a long, long way to go before extermination is complete? I don’t see you bringing up the genocidal policies of contraception, abortion, excessive schooling, late marriage, no-fault divorce, and the like, either. Are those a “yawner”, too?

    Throwing around words like “genocide” makes you look like a Chicken Little. White goys outnumber Jews something like 30-1, but you don’t hear much talk about the contemporary genocide of Jews in America. (At any rate, they’re doing a pretty good job of doing it on themselves.)

  210. Liza says:
    @Colin Wright

    Gyorgy Cziffra was a Gypsy. From wikipedia:

    Cziffra was born to a poor Romani family of musicians in Budapest in 1921.

    He was a truly great talent. He experienced many tribulations in his life.

    http://www.musicweb-international.com/cziffra/prelude.htm

  211. @djdnn

    …My only point here is that I am sorry for you and that I wish you every happiness.

    Sure you do. We can tell.

  212. Anonymous[256] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Sweden 2022 TFR: 1.67
    Bulgaria 2022 TFR: 1.59

    Actions speak louder than words. No non-microstate European countries are close to replacement level.

    • Replies: @Odyssey
    , @Reg Cæsar
  213. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    This Inejirō chap seemed remarkably well fed for a Socialist, and a Japanese one at that.

    But then Mao always looked remarkably well fed for a Communist, and for a Communist whose country was in intermittent famine under his reign.

  214. Anon[479] • Disclaimer says:

    Watching a viral video of a smash and grab mail jewelry store robbery and reading the comments I traced it to last summer in New Zealand. The masked perps looked black … but then I remembered Maoris. Media articles referred to “youths.” No names were mentioned even though a few of those eventually arrested were just barely adults.

    Interestingly they were chased by irate white men and women to their stolen car. You never see any resistance to this stuff in the U.S.

    Anyway, the Aukland-adjacent suburb where the robbery was 24 percent Maori according to Wikipedia.

    The most surprising thing that I learned is that between 2001 and 2018 New Zealand dropped from 80 percent white to 70 percent white, with increasing Chinese, Indian, and Maori to blame.

    • Replies: @Ed Case
  215. @Steve Sailer

    Sorry to see him go, but Warlock was a great flick. RIP, Julian.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  216. @Steve Sailer

    Willie Nelson, the country-hippie legendary singer-songwriter, in his last album with the now-deceased Merle Haggard, sang a song called “Django and Jimmie”, where Willie (and also Merle) attributed his love of guitar to Django Reinhardt, a famous Gypsy jazz guitarist who only had the use of two fingers to play the guitar.

    Of course, the song also name checked Jimmie Rogers, the father of country music, the Singin’ Brakeman, who was so influential many black blues players tried to imitate his yodel.

  217. @Reg Cæsar

    Meh, you could do a better job of protecting an asset than that. You start by saying there are still a lot of Whites, so no crime against them is possible? I dunno, that doesn’t make sense, but its a start.

    Then you tried to muddy the waters with talk of contraception – that was weak.

    Then you did the “alarmist” routine. Not original. The next point doesn’t make any sense at all.

    If you’re going to protect an asset’s reputation, put some work in it!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  218. @Reg Cæsar

    you don’t hear much talk about the contemporary genocide of Jews in America.

    Jews are reproducing just fine. As are blacks. It’s just the white gentiles whose numbers are in freefall.

    Maybe we have insufficient Bulgarians.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  219. @LondonBob

    One possible origin I read a few years ago was that they began as camp followers who followed an army past the Hindu Kush, were sold into slavery and then escaped and kept going west…

  220. @Daniel Williams

    Falling off Mt. Baldy at age 65 suggests a healthy life.

    • Replies: @Kylie
  221. @Reg Cæsar

    My in-laws from the Austin neighborhood of Chicago had that exact conversation in Italy in 1968.

  222. BB753 says:
    @TelfoedJohn

    A good metaphor if Sicily produced 90 % of industrial products in the world.

  223. BB753 says:
    @Odyssey

    “We should think about it.”
    Indeed, you should rethink what you posted in the light of the actual ancestry of modern Europeans, which is only partly derived from steppe nomads.

    • Replies: @Odyssey
  224. Odyssey says:
    @Anonymous

    Unofficially, the plan of the deep European state is for Western European Gypsies to be silently expelled and settled in Bulgaria, which has a low birth rate and is weak as a country that always switches sides when someone stronger appears and joins them (Russia, USSR, Germany, EU or US).

    Some of the Gypsies achieved success in classical music, such as Nemanya Radulovic, a violinist from Serbia.

    • Replies: @Bert
  225. Odyssey says:
    @BB753

    Thanks for stopping by my comment. I don’t know what you meant. Please, come out and don’t be shy. Can you expand on your comment or do you have any additional clarification?
    Go Novacc the Goat!!!

    • Replies: @BB753
  226. Ed Case says:
    @Anon

    This stat is at least 10 years old, but, New Zealand has the highest rates of rape and burglary in the English speaking world.
    Yeah, Maoris [PC Mouli].

    Just in case you’ve got a fantasy about moving there, there’s not that many in the South Island, due to them not liking the cold.
    Check the weather out first, though.

  227. @al gore rhythms

    Ireland passed trespass laws some 30 or 40 years back which made just turning up on someone’s land then waiting for a court order (six weeks and great expense later) before moving on (leaving litter, burned out cars, faeces etc) a poor proposition. So many more came over here to the UK. But they’ve been in the UK for over a hundred years now – George Borrow in Wild Wales (1862) described how the Romany in Wales hated and feared them.

    Mainland Britain had worked out a pretty good modus vivendi with their Romanies over the last few hundred years – when I was poor and used to have to hitch to work a local scrap trader from our village traveller site actually used to give me lifts – almost unheard of. But then EU expansion happened and the unreconstructed types from Eastern Europe arrived.

    OT, this story from CNN

    https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/20/politics/ex-us-navy-seal-killed-ukraine/index.html

    An ex-US Navy SEAL, who deserted the American military nearly four years ago, was killed fighting in Ukraine, according to the Navy.

    Daniel W. Swift, who was a special warfare operator 1st class, was killed on Wednesday in Ukraine, the Navy said in a statement. Swift deserted the military on March 11, 2019.

    “We cannot speculate as to why the former Sailor was in Ukraine,” the Navy said.

    “We are in touch with his family and providing all possible consular assistance,” a State Department spokesperson said. “Out of respect for the privacy of the family during this difficult time, we have nothing further to add.”

    Swift joined the Navy in 2005 and completed the Navy SEALS training in 2006, according to his service record provided by the Navy. During his time in the military, he earned awards and decorations for service in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    His record also contains an unexplained break in service from the beginning of 2014 to the end of 2015. His last assignment was a West Coast Special Warfare Unit, which started in August 2016.

    I’m sure its SOP for a guy with 10 years experience and awards and decorations to just desert – as one does. And I’m sure his salary and death benefits will ultimately have been paid by the US taxpayer, no matter how many layers it’s laundered through.

    I wonder how many other Special Forces guys have tactically deserted ? Are any figures published?

    • Agree: Odyssey, nokangaroos
    • Replies: @Ed Case
  228. @Anonymous

    “virtually every UK High Street is infested by whole gangs of Roma beggars who work specific pitches”

    In the UK there’s s magazine called the Big Issue (“the UK’s number one street paper and social enterprise, giving people who are experiencing homelessness or who are vulnerably housed a hand up, not a hand out“) which on my small rural High Street is sold by a headscarved Eastern European Muslim lady, who’s dropped off and picked up in an Audi 4×4 each day.

    When it comes to making big cash, Albanians make Roma look like pikers. They have the UK cocaine trade and are rapidly taking over the cannabis growing trade.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/kings-of-cocaine-albanian-mafia-uk-drugs-crime

    • Agree: Odyssey
  229. J.Ross says:

    What would Gypsies be without the dishonest charities, QUANGOS, and government bureaus which enable them?
    Belgian couple took in “Ukrainian refugees,” their house now looks like it was in Ukraine.

    “One day we received a call from the CPAS in Ninove asking if we could pick up a Ukrainian woman with two children (her husband had been killed in the war),” the couple said, newspaper 7sur7 reports.

    https://www.7sur7.be/faits-divers/plus-de-36-000-euros-de-degats-apres-avoir-heberge-des-refugies-dans-leur-maison-le-cpas-nous-a-laisses-tomber~a1d2613e/

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/01/21/belgian-couple-who-hosted-refugees-left-with-36k-euros-in-damages/

    “Then we got another call asking if we had a problem with the fact that the woman was pregnant. [Oh yeah, I hate motherhood, tell that bitch to go back to her dead war hero husband because I am soooo heartless AHAHAHA!] When we arrived, a pregnant woman with three children and her husband were waiting for us,” they added. [At least they got the pregnancy right.]

    “We quickly noticed that this was no ordinary Ukrainian family. Two weeks later, the CPAS told us that they were Roma gipsies. For example, the members of this family did not know how to use a washing machine, a dryer, or an oven… All these devices were unknown to them. The mother washed the clothes in our bathtub,” they said.

    According to the pair, just weeks after the family arrived, “Mould appeared all over the windows [yeah, it follows them wherever they go], the walls were covered with inscriptions [dude, what the eldritch abominable shambling?!], wood was torn from the bed frame [they’re just trying to save money on heating], doors and cabinets were damaged. But that’s not all: all the chairs in the kitchen were broken [this is a compliment to the chef in our culture], the moulding was torn off the stairs, there were holes in the floor [to let additional mould in. Gotta let the mould breathe], our children’s toys were broken [what did I say about piling bodies?], and even their piggy bank was opened.”

    The couple also claims the Ukrainian refugees [sic — they just said these are not Ukrainians — ed] hosted another family in the home. “Another woman, her husband and three children were staying with us. They were subletting. At one point, more than 11 people were in the house,” they said.

  230. J.Ross says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Maybe Gypsies are what happens when you have no connection to your ancestry and do not emphasize literacy and morality.

  231. @Colin Wright

    One year.

    https://www.jutarnji.hr/globus/kultura/ispovijest-ugledne-knjizevnice-posvojila-sam-dva-romska-djecaka-i-nisam-uspjela-u-njihovu-odgoju-obojica-su-zavrsila-s-druge-strane-zakona-6455431

    Google Tran:

    Tereza Boučková was born in 1957 in Prague, and by profession she is a writer, screenwriter and journalist, whose novels are in the Czech bestseller list. As a young woman, doctors diagnosed her with infertility, and she and her husband decided to provide a home for neglected children. In the space of a year, they adopted two Roma boys who were then one year old. But, as often happens, when she fulfilled her desire to become a parent, she became pregnant and gave birth to another boy. Life with three sons in the countryside near Prague was idyllic, until the two older sons entered puberty. They started stealing, lying and cheating their parents, and eventually they didn’t want to go to school or work anymore. She has already thrown her eldest son, Patrik, out of the house and he lives on the street where he gets itchy due to lack of hygiene; because of the younger one, Lukašá (she changed their names), she and her husband lock all valuables and money in their bedroom at night so that he would not steal.

    • Thanks: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  232. Ed Case says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Swift can be a Gypsy name in Australia.
    They’ve even got their own Cemetery in Sydney.

    Shoplifting from Supermarkets is their forte here.
    The adults steal meat, which is easy to sell, the kids steal chocolates and sweets, which is okay with the Magistrates.

  233. @Hypnotoad666

    In fact, lots of beggers (especially the better ones) have a roof overhead (a cheap apartment/room or crashing with a friend or relative). But they can still make decent money during the day shaking a cup at the entry of the CVS or wherever.

    As Sherlock Holmes discovered:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_with_the_Twisted_Lip

  234. @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.

    Historically, there have been several Romanian commenters here at iSteve. Where are they when you need them?

    Maybe if Steve changed the post name to something with “Romanian”, or at least “Roma”, in it, the Dacia Bat Signal would be lit?

  235. Art Deco says:
    @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.

    Gypsies are now the culturally dominant group in Romania, much like blacks are here in the US.

    Rubbish and rubbish.

  236. Bert says:
    @AnotherDad

    An excellent manifesto for the white (and a few Koreans) ethno-state.

  237. Art Deco says:
    @Anonymous

    1. They didn’t. The only person who left town was Viktor Yanukovich, because the security forces weren’t going to shed blood to protect them.

    2. There have been four competitive elections since. The Russophile parties have lost 60% of their base of support for a reason.

  238. Art Deco says:
    @Corn

    My favorite part about gypsies is how lefty American college students studying abroad will come back talking about how awful they are but then refuse to apply the same logic to blacks.

    They don’t apply the same logic because the two populations are quite dissimilar. American blacks are a sedentary wage-earning population which have among them problem people who need to be deterred and sequestered (feral young males who might amount to 10-15% of the whole). They’re not a public hygiene problem and most of them are innocent of being a public order problem as well.

    • Disagree: AceDeuce
  239. Bert says:
    @Odyssey

    Interesting that the physical style reeks of self-promotion and manipulation, consistent with a Roma heritage.

  240. The Norwegian Govt. asks the question all others are afraid to:

    Is White paint racist?

    http://www.stationgossip.com/2023/01/is-white-paint-racist-norwegian.html

  241. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    The FSB should have done their own coup then, instead of Putin sending hundreds of thousands of people to their death and millions into exile. They were right next door and had unlimited rubles at their disposal.

    The problem was that all the FSB money end up buying real estate for FSB higher ups in expensive Western countries so they couldn’t even afford to buy a bag of pastries like Nuland did in Kyiv.

    • LOL: BB753
  242. Mike Tre says:
    @Guest007

    “Why are so many people ready to give the bully Putin whatever he wants? ”

    The US has given how many billions in taxpayer dollars to the Ukraine so far? I’ve lost count.

    Here’s an idea: How about the US stays out of it completely and let this conflict play out on its own.

  243. @Muggles

    There is a corps of beggars who stand on “islands” at intersections of arterial streets in a certain college town and state capital in the Great Lakes region.

    They hold signs identifying themselves as “homeless” or “veterans.” The persons in questions lack the gaunt face and blank stare of the persons begging or just occupying the walkable downtown areas.

    Our on-again off-again mayor from the Vietnam War Protest era would periodically instruct the police to ask the arterial street beggers to leave. This man was by a comparative standard the defacto Conservative in the last election and he was replaced with a hyphenated surname woman, a bit more white and better fed than the mayor of Chicago. The current mayor, whose major project appears to be pestering motorists by a rolling reduction of speed limits that had stood for decades and confusing motorist and pedestrian alike by delaying the green traffic signal, apparently leaves these beggars alone.

    I wonder if these persons who look a bit too normal to be street people are standing at the street corners in the service of a religious cult or a radical political group? This begging duty constituting how you “make your bones” to belong to this group? Didn’t Jim Jones order such a thing of his initiates?

    Or is this an ethnic thing? The busy street beggars are mainly white with token minorities in their ranks.

  244. BB753 says:
    @Odyssey

    Start here:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-34832781

    Yamnaya= steppe ancestry, ancestral Indo-Europeans. It is highest in places like Norway, where it amounts to 50 % of the ancestry. The rest is mostly Neolithic ( Middle Eastern, i. e. Anatolian) with a touch of ancient Western hunter-gatherers.
    However, even the above mentioned Yamnaya, or Indo-Europeans from the steppe, were also admixed to a lesser degree with Anatolian farmers.
    https://indo-european.eu/2019/08/yamnaya-ancestry-mapping-the-proto-indo-european-expansions/

    • Replies: @Odyssey
  245. I got to thinking about iSteve’s Hispanic-looking rogues gallery and how they are not Hispanic.

    So they are preying on Asians? Would they dare prey on Hispanics, or do enough Hispanics belong to gangs who would put the hurt on these guys to send a message?

    Would they prey on whites? Back in the day, whites had their gangs, but this is not something we want to countenance let along tolerate these days. Yes, the whites have a gang to put the hurt on these guys if they went after whites, they are called the police department. Or at least whites had the police looking after their interests, or at least they still do for the elites with the stupid yard signs.

    The story I hear is that the Asian community is traditionally insular and not trusting of the police? If you are going to go that route, you need some other source of force to protect your people. The Asians once had their gangs, but they have not maintained them?

  246. Anonymous[131] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    It’s sick the way you guys use Ukrainians as cannon fodder in your war against Russia.

    Shame on you. Your ancestors look at you with shame.

    • Agree: Odyssey
  247. ganderson says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Sgt. Joe Friday would agree- in the Dragnet episode “The Big Clan” he and Gannon break up a gypsy fortune telling ring- he goes into long rant about how, and I quote from memory, ” maybe somewhere there are smiling gypsies that sing and dance and laugh; but we (the LAPD) don’t see ’em…”

    • Thanks: Post-Postmodernist
  248. ganderson says:
    @Colin Wright

    When one’s kid gets a driver license in MA the parents have to attend a class- ours was taught by a guy from Portugal who regained us with stories of how the Gypsies had destroyed Lisbon’s stock of public housing. The good wokesters of Amherst (AKA Crazytown USA) were shocked.

    • Replies: @ganderson
  249. @Jack D

    “hundreds of thousands to their deaths”

    Wildly overstated.

  250. ganderson says:
    @ganderson

    …regaled… damn autocorrect!

  251. @Anonymous

    They used the CIA to overthrow of the legitimately elected government of Ukraine in 2014.

    No he was removed by the Ukrainian government and charged with treason. An election followed and Zelensky beat the pro-Western candidate. A couple minor details never mentioned on the pro-Putin blogs.

    If Biden was caught taking over 100 million via corruption would you argue that he should stay in office because he was elected?

  252. @Bardon Kaldian

    …She has already thrown her eldest son, Patrik, out of the house and he lives on the street where he gets itchy due to lack of hygiene; because of the younger one, Lukašá (she changed their names), she and her husband lock all valuables and money in their bedroom at night so that he would not steal.

    Thanks. Not conclusive, but it is suggestive, isn’t it?

  253. @ginger bread man

    the psychic didn’t stop us after 5 minutes to alert us to the change in price.

    Sounds like you got gypped.

  254. Corvinus says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Once again, you show a knack for not offering background and context.

    https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/roma-european-culture

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  255. @J.Ross

    You can show us a video of a woman pulling shit out of her ass and throwing it and then ask why their cuisine has never taken off?

    Well monkeys do the same thing but monkeybread is quite popular.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  256. @Anonymous

    Why are so many willing to give the bully Victoria Nuland and George Soros whatever they want?

    I’m not interested in given Nuland or Soros what they want. “Lamppost decoration” would be a good end for them from my perspective. But the interesting question here is why so many people are so obsessed with giving Putin what he wants?

    They used the CIA to overthrow of the legitimately elected government of Ukraine in 2014.

    Ukraine’s not my patch–genetically or culturally. And I don’t really care about it, nor who runs it–other than my general nationalist sympathies (nations over empire) and “good wishes” for my fellow humans.

    But even to a casual observer like me, there’s this bizarro quasi-idolatry of Yanukovych presidency–and note, just Yanukovych’s presidency not the also equally “legitimate” Ukranian parliament–as somehow the lone “legitimate” Ukraine government entitled to everlasting power (or something).

    No. The simple story: Yanukovych won a narrow victory in 201o in the back and forth swing these things have. (Many people–correctly–perceive the whole “girl boss” thing as being unnatural, wrong.) But in 2014–despite repeated promises to do so–he refused to sign these associating agreements with Europe, but instead wanted to take Putin’s cash offers not to do so. Yanukovych was already seen as corrupt and a Putin tool and this led to large protests. (My take: Ukrainians have right in front of them the “EU” path–Poland–and the ” Russia aligned” path–Belarus–and there’s a consensus for the former.)

    The protests led to violent clashes with the police, and escalation with more violence and killings. Yanukovych negotiated with the opposition, then fled Kyiv. The parliament voted him out of office–his own party voting against him!–apparently not quite by their constitutional rulebook, and scheduled a new election.

    I have no idea what Nuland’s role in this whole thing was besides baking cookies–presumably there was cash and encouragement for protest leaders. But I’ve heard this “the CIA!” whine my whole life. Anytime anything anywhere happened that was “right wing”–i.e. “the revolution” wasn’t going according to plan–it was the fault of the CIA. (And on the flip side, rightists who blamed any leftist agitation was the work of the KGB.) And yeah, the CIA was doing their crank turning–as was the KBG. But basically, this line was a denial that the world is full of all sorts of “diversity”–ethnic, religious, class, etc.–people all pursuing their conflicting agendas, who don’t require meddling from the CIA, the KGB or anyone else to generate conflict.

    The whole 2014 Ukranian thing was something that obviously would have been easily resolved by a “no-confidence” vote in a full parliamentary system. (A definite benefit of that system.) But the net result of it was that Yanukovych was booted out in 2014 instead of losing–or not even running–in 2015.

    The idea that this is some sort of end of “legitimacy” for Ukranian elections is laughable. They’ve had two elections since then.

    That the pro-Russian candidates are less competitive is mostly because of what Putin’s done. Directly in removing Crimea and parts of the Donbass from the elections. And–I’d surmise–partly because in doing so, he’s made Ukrainians who were perhaps “good relations with Europe and good relations with Russia” types more Russo-skeptic.

    Zelenskyy–I checked the election map–did relatively well in Eastern Ukraine. And only in the very farthest east–Donetsk and Luhansk–oblasts did the pro-Russia opposition even win a plurality over Zelenskyy.

    And that pro-Russia candidate, Yuriy Boyko–just looked it up–he and his party opposed the Russian invasion as well!

    The “bully” who is getting people killed in Ukraine, yet has people here–weirdly, cringingly–spinning for him is Putin.

    Soros’s treasonous–arguably he’s loyal to his people, and simply is not an American–bully boy antics are meting out their destruction here–in the good old USofA, not Ukraine. And he needs to be held to account for his crimes here.

    • Replies: @Peter Lund
  257. @Anonymous

    Failing to fulfill a duty is still different from rejecting it altogether.

    Actions speak louder than words.

    Says “Anonymous”!

  258. @Almost Missouri

    Jews are reproducing just fine… It’s just the white gentiles whose numbers are in freefall.

    Black hats are reproducing. Some with one Testament, some with two:

    And some with three:

    Okay, minus the hats. It’s the secular who are not reproducing. And they probably shouldn’t.

  259. @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    You start by saying there are still a lot of Whites, so no crime against them is possible?

    Didn’t I just say that antinatalism and secularism are crimes against peoples?

    Then you tried to muddy the waters with talk of contraception…

    A very effective tool for genocide. Note that the CCP exempted China’s ethnic minorities from the one-child policy. Applying it to them would actually have met the UN’s definition of genocide. Doing it to one’s own race would not.

    You may not like the Comstock Act, but it was a robust statement of racial vigor. Whose side are you on, Anthony Comstock’s, or Emma Goldman’s?

    Jesse Jackson said legal abortion was genocide against blacks. It is also genocide against whites. Were you on the Mall yesterday? Lighting a candle for those 30 million white children?

  260. Curle says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    At least she’s an half-breed.

    Ethnicity:
    *father – Armenian
    *mother – English, German, more distant Irish, Dutch, and French

  261. Kylie says:
    @Steve Sailer

    “Falling off Mt. Baldy at age 65 suggests a healthy life.”

    To me, aged 67, comfortably and healthily ensconced in my recliner, it suggests at best the sudden end of a healthy life.

    I’ve had a lot of contentment and enjoyment the last two years that I would have missed had I fallen off a mountain at age 65.

  262. AndrewR says:
    @djdnn

    Jewish tribal solidarity is the biggest problem in the world and the lack of white solidarity is the biggest problem in white countries

  263. Curle says:
    @Daniel H

    Mr Rainier sees 10,000 climbers each year. Sometimes stuff like this happens.

    https://seattlemag.com/one-deadliest-days-mt-rainier-one-year-later/

    On Saturday, they found climbing equipment and detected signals from six avalanche beacons on a glacier at the base of a nearby cliff face, which is around 9,500 feet—suggesting a fall of more than 3,000 feet. Mount Rainier National Park information officer Patti Wold told KOMO News, “There is no viable way they could have survived.”

    Something happened on Wednesday night. Nobody can know with certainty, but the most likely scenario is that rock, snow or ice fell from above and swept the team off the ridge. The climbers’ bodies landed at the base of Willis Wall, which continually sheds rock and icefall, covering the remains almost immediately.

  264. @John Johnson

    Years ago I worked in an office building near the Metro station in Rosslyn VA. There were a couple of white guys who panhandled at the station entrance. Nothing aggressive, just “spare some change?”

    One evening after working late I was having a burger in the McDonalds across the street, and overheard these guys talking about the day’s take, which as $75 for one of them. Then the Arlington county free food bus showed up and they all went outside to get something to eat. Arlington also provided overnight housing and showers.

    The point is that these guys were doing ok hanging out on the street, thanks to the county and stupid white people, and it wasn’t a bad life if you have no ambition.

    I never give bums money.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  265. @Steve Sailer

    What terrifies me is that in the near future, automatic AI accent-changers are going to enable a lot of Indian scam callers to sound like my next door neighbors. It’ll make it easy to con people out of their money.

    • Replies: @mc23
  266. Anon 2 says:

    Poland is too far north (northernmost point in Poland corresponds to
    southern Alaska) to have attracted many Gypsies over the centuries.
    Hungary, and even more Romania, have not been so lucky. Gypsies
    like warmer climes so they have a heavy presence in Spain and Portugal.
    Flamenco music shows a deep Roma influence.

    I remember one incident as a child (but only one) when I heard people
    shouting, “Gypsy [tsiganie] wagon train is coming down the road. Close
    the doors, close the windows!” I looked, and, sure enough, I could see
    them in the distance.

    These days the number of the Gypsies in Poland is so small that the
    relations between them and the host country are fairly amiable. They
    have produced outstanding singers like Edyta Górniak (b. 1972) who’s
    been a fixture on the Polish musical stage since the early ‘90s, and did
    very well in Eurovision. She was offered modeling contracts in the U.S.
    but rejected them all, wanting to focus on music. A younger version of
    Edyta Górniak is Viki Gabor, 15, a singer of outstanding talent who
    already won the Junior Eurovision song contest in 2019. She is often
    compared to Dua Lipa.

    Gypsy girls typically get married at 13-14, and start producing children
    right away. My impression is that the Polish Gypsies are too assimilated
    to have retained those ancient customs.

  267. Odyssey says:
    @BB753

    Thanks Bibi. ‘I’ DNA haplogroup is the only one originated in Europe. So, they are European indigenous people – I1 (Nordics) and I2 (one half of Serbs). Both of them originated in the cradle of Euro civilization – Vinca, where 95% of Europeans lived at the height of the Ice Age (finished about 10-12 K BC). Later, G2 Caucasians came to Vinca (friendly) and much later Yamnaya nomads from Russian steppes (genocidal). Yamnaya (aka ‘Indo-Europeans’) have nothing to do – neither with ‘Indo’ nor with ‘European’. Allegedly, Sanskrit is so-called ‘Indo-European’ language, but Yamnaya nomads were NOT Aryans. So, you would agree with me that the term ‘indo-european’ is idiotic.

    • Replies: @BB753
  268. mc23 says:
    @TelfoedJohn

    That’s awful. It’ll take all the fun out of stringing them along

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  269. Pastit says:

    I think I’ve seen enough of diversity to know it just isn’t for me.

  270. Odyssey says:

    @ That Would Be Telling

    I challenge you to find a single flaw in my comment(s). Speak now or be silent forever.

  271. BB753 says:
    @Odyssey

    Not sure hap. I is native to Europe. It might have disappeared everywhere else.

    As for the term Indo-European, every made-up convenient anthropological term may sound unsatisfying. Mind you, it’s less arbitrary than Yamnaya, because it reflects the geographical distribution of a culture and related languages.

    If you dig deep enough, prehistory and ancient history displays plenty of genocides and population displacements/ replacements. Though usually female were spared. Blame the patriarchy!

    • Replies: @Odyssey
  272. @Reg Cæsar

    Look at the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.

    See UN Resolution 260.

    It’s the law of the land (USA is a party to it) and as our host here reminds us, we must not let international norms be transgressed!

    Article II
    In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with
    intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as
    such:
    (a) Killing members of the group;
    (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
    (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
    physical destruction in whole or in part;
    (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
    (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

    These are rather loosely written laws but they have whatever teeth the UN wishes to impose. When tens of trillion are on the line for this vast crime, you can bet lawyers will make the best arguments of their lives. They will win by hook or crook. For that much money, you’ll even get the best NYC lawyers.

  273. @Colin Wright

    Corvinus? Should I write your post for you, or do you want to do it?

    I’ll take a crack:

    Steve, you FAIL TO NOTICE that gypsies are aktually very productive, pro-white citizens.

    You simply lack the argumentative chops.

    PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO ME!

    – Corvirus

  274. @AnotherDad

    Yanukovych won a narrow victory in 201o

    Almost certainly not. There was plenty of election fraud in that election.

    It was really strange to follow because lots of election observers gave interviews to the press about the fraud they witnessed — but the OSCE report afterwards said the election was free and fair. The observers were pissed afterwards. I have never understood why no newspapers dug into what happened there…

    The next big election in Ukraine was the parliamentary election in 2012 — which was also marred by Yanukovich’ fraud + interference with the free media. This time the OSCE report afterwards did state clearly that he and his party had cheated.

    But the net result of it was that Yanukovych was booted out in 2014 instead of losing–or not even running–in 2015.

    Just by showing up and voting? Not very likely, given what happened in 2012. As Stalin may have said: “I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the votes, and how.”

    I am grateful that he is gone. I’m a bit sad that he walks around freely in Russia instead of festering in a prison in Ukraine, though.

    • Replies: @Curle
    , @Odyssey
  275. J.Ross says:
    @Veteran Aryan

    I was tempted to quote the Jean-Claude who said that one day, his wife called him over to the window, and he saw a minibus dropping off grandmas on a regular basis (every fifty meters) to beg along the sidewalks. The joke is that he eventually noticed that the gypsies dropping off the begging grandmas were more regular than French public transportation.

  276. @Almost Missouri

    There’s a story here about how Mao use it to his advantage to dunk on a Soviet premier of Ukrainian background,

    Mao swimming in the Yangtze at the age of 72. His fat made him extremely buoyant.

    Khrushchev, meanwhile, stood uncomfortably in the children’s end of the pool until Mao, with more than a touch of malice, suggested that he join him in the deeper water.

    Mao, says Lüthi, covered his head with “a handkerchief with knots at all the corners” and swept up and down the pool while Khrushchev struggled to stay afloat. After considerable exertion, the Soviet leader was able to get moving, “paddling like a dog” in a desperate attempt to keep up.

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/khrushchev-in-water-wings-on-mao-humiliation-and-the-sino-soviet-split-80852370/

    But there’s significant omission in the article, the biggest rift that led to Sino-Soviet split was due the Khrushchev’s refusal to back Mao on the Taiwan Question.

  277. Curle says:
    @Peter Lund

    Contra what the media tells you there is election fraud in almost every single election. That’s why most state legal standards for invalidation require a showing that it would have changed the outcome, a near impossible threshold because of ballot secrecy laws. Stalin was right.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  278. Odyssey says:
    @BB753

    I think we have made good progress. We found out who the natives of Europe were (paradoxically, still few people know that), where was the cradle of Euro (white) civilization, who came later and conducted the genocide. We indirectly concluded that, for example, the Greeks fairly recently came as migrants (from Africa) as well as the Germans (from Asia).

    We may not formally agree on the term ‘Indo-European’ but imagine – can we call the language of this comment ‘proto-Martian’ because in 1000 years some people will live on Mars. Essentially, Yamnaya nomadic language was not what is now called ‘Indo-European’. From the language, which originated in Vincha and later became Sanskrit, evolved all Slavic, many Asian and almost all European languages.

    I think that would be telling physicists had the opportunity to learn a lot.

    Finally, another anti-hoax ‘bomb’. The Romanians (not Gypsies) whom someone mentioned above are not descendants of Latins but are descendants of the Goths. It is a forgery of enormous proportions that the Goths were Germans. Stay cool, Bibi.

  279. Odyssey says:
    @Peter Lund

    I can’t decide whose analysis is a bigger joke, your or Dad’s. The physicist couldn’t do better.

  280. Art Deco says:
    @Curle

    I don’t think that was the case 40 years ago where I’ve lived. The catastrophic decline in ballot security and the negligence with maintaining update voter registration rolls have opened up opportunities for fraud. Street-level Democrats respond to obvious anomalies by playing DARVO cards.

  281. @Odyssey

    One of our crazy South Slavs, Odyssey wrote:

    Romania was the Jesuit project ‘Eastern Latins’ in the Vatican’s campaign to the east. Started 300 years ago they created 160 years ago an artificial nation with an artificial name and an artificial quasi-Latin language.

    We do have documents going back more than 500 years, you know!

    So where did you get this crackpot idea?

    Did you just make it up or is it endemic among you crazy South Slavs?

  282. @Jim Don Bob

    The point is that these guys were doing ok hanging out on the street, thanks to the county and stupid white people, and it wasn’t a bad life if you have no ambition.

    I never give bums money.

    I never minded the drunks. You can joke with them or ask them to name the capital of Texas for a buck. On our lunch break we would do stuff like that just to entertain ourselves and give them a chance at earning it.

    The heroin junkies would creep me out. Once they figured out you weren’t a tourist they would give you the nastiest looks.

    They were all trying to score $5 before their withdrawals kicked in. So some days they would get really testy. Walking by half a dozen junkies that were having a bad day was quite unnerving. They would see a tie and assume you had pockets filled with cash. I had to walk with office guys that would be worthless in a fight. Never got into anything that serious but a worker was stabbed where I parked my car. Before that incident another worker laughed at me for asking if that area was safe. Unreal as to how many White people walk around these cities as if they are a theme park.

  283. Ian M. says:
    @Colin Wright

    But haven’t European writers sometimes romanticized Gypsies? E.g., Hugo, Bizet, Bronte.

    I’m guessing a lot of American romanticization of Gypsies is the result of stories like these.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  284. @mc23

    Am I the only one to chat with an “FBI agent” with a thick Indian accent?

  285. @Ian M.

    Could be.

    Many decades ago I worked in a shop in a famous tourist area. For a while, every day some Gypsy women would make the same stupid childish insult, and the men would laugh at them.

    When I told a young lady about this, she asked if the Gypsy women were beautiful. I had to break it to her that the Gypsy women were, in fact, quite ugly. Strangely, the Gypsy men in that group were probably good looking, but being heterosexual I have never been a good judge of male attractiveness

  286. @Anonymous

    As a native born Eastern European, I can tell you there are many reasons.
    1) They have a different belief about private property. If you’re not actively using something, you don’t own it. That means if you leave your bicycle for 20 seconds, it’s free for anyone to take.
    2) They have a different notion about truth versus lies. It’s OK to lie as long as it gets them what they want.
    3) They have been designated a “protected class” in my country of origin. Many are in govt subsidized housing and they trash the place, sometimes even setting bonfires in the house.
    4) They are fortunetellers so they consult with spirits against which the Bible warns
    5) Since they are now a protected class, they play their loud annoying Gypsy music late at night in towns, and no one is legally allowed to say a thing because it’s racist. That’s what my relatives in Europe report.

  287. Odyssey says:

    PCR writes in his latest text here:

    Washington is such an inbred system that the consequence is stupidity. People capable of thinking outside of official narratives are simply not accepted.

    (any accidental resemblance to a Chinese son-in-law here is intentional).

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