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From the Ottawa Citizen:

Teacher candidates win ‘huge victory’ over province’s mandatory math test for educators

The test has 50 mathematics content questions and 21 questions about math pedagogy. The applicant has to score 70 per cent on both parts to pass.

by Joanne Laucius
Publishing date:Dec 22, 2021 • 1 day ago • 4 minute read

A mandatory math test for those who want to become certified teachers is unconstitutional, an Ontario court has decided.

Ontario introduced the Math Proficiency Test (MPT) as part of a package of provincial strategies to improve student math skills after test scores began to dip. As of last year, the MPT was a requirement for all new teacher candidates who want to teach in publicly-funded schools.

The Ontario Teacher Candidates’ Council requested a judicial review, arguing the test had a disproportionately negative effect on racialized candidates.

The word “racialized” is used to paper over the contradiction between:

  • Race Does Not Exist
  • All we talk about these days is race.

So, you see, it’s not like people being legally privileged by this judicial reasoning are getting these extra rights for racial reasons, it’s instead because they’ve been “racialized” in some kind of socially constructed mass delusion.

Recently, the Ontario Superior Court of Justice Divisional Court found the requirement infringes on the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The court’s Dec. 17 decision noted that racialized teachers were under-represented in Ontario and that there were alternatives to the MPT.

“Racialized students benefit from being taught by racialized teachers,” the court decision stated. “The deleterious effects of the MPT on racialized teacher candidates who have been unsuccessful in the test outweighs its benefits.”

This is a topic that has been studied a lot going back to the Coleman Report in 1966. My impression is that, yes, there is some advantage in having a teacher of the same race as the student all else being equal. But the general cognitive level of the teacher (as represented by, say, a verbal test of teachers in the Coleman Report) is the biggest single nurture factor in all of education. And, unfortunately, all else is seldom equal.

But we aren’t supposed to talk about that.

Moreover, we aren’t supposed to think about any new manifestation of this vastly common phenomenon in the contexts of thousands of social science studies over the last 6o years. That black and Amerindians do worse than whites and Asians on a new cognitive test in Ontario is supposed to raise huge red flags about the new test when the opposite would be the case: if they’d somehow invented a new test in which there weren’t racial gaps, the courts should treat it with deep skepticism considering the immense weight of social science showing that nobody has been able to do it and maintain predictive validity.

… The test has 50 mathematics content questions and 21 questions about math pedagogy. The applicant has to score 70 per cent on both parts to pass.

Atimniraye Nyelade said he had no problems with the mathematics content questions, but didn’t succeed on the pedagogy portion.

“The mathematics part is all about logic. The pedagogical part is a lot of memory work,” he said.

This Cameroonian would-be math teacher says, in other words, that he’s cool with the masculine logic parts of the test but bombed on the feminine verbose parts.

The province started officially administering the test last May. The demographic data shows disparities in success rates, the court heard. Candidates who identify as Indigenous and Black have success rates 20 per cent lower than white candidates.

Francophone candidates also had a lower success rate than anglophone test-takers. Of the non-white candidates writing the test in French, 55 per cent were successful compared to 84 per cent of the white candidates writing in French, the court heard. Those whose first language is neither French nor English had an even lower success rate.

“Racialized teacher candidates have gone through an education system in which they have suffered discrimination and disadvantage,” the decision said.

Actually, the human interest example in this article, Atimniraye Nyelade, went through the education system in black-ruled Cameroon.

“The candidates are then required to take ‘high stakes’ standardized tests which the available data shows they are more likely to fail.”

Teacher candidates have argued there are alternatives to the test that would be at least as effective in improving student achievements in math — such as beefing up math instruction in teaching programs or requiring a math course as a prerequisite to enter a teaching program.

And those methods would not have racial disparate impact because …?

I don’t know much about civil rights law in Canada. How long has half-century old American Griggs disparate impact-thinking been part of Canadian law?

 
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  1. It’s Thursday afternoon. Are you getting hammered with rain down there? We got 2 inches in 24 hours up here. Pretty good so far this year.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @stillCARealist

    In your next post, are you going to propose trading recipes or something?

    Replies: @stillCARealist

  2. That’s one thing we English Canadians should take pride in – we seemed to have coined the term “racialized”. It sounds a lot like “marginalized”. The term implies that blacks and Aboriginals are immutably stupid and thus we need to reconfigure society to make up for it.

    I love calling the Chinese women at my work place “racialized” in official correspondence. I can tell they hate it! They know it’s a term set aside for the darkies…

    • LOL: Right_On, Lurker
  3. Forget it, Steve, it’s a Canada town, eh?

    (Where else do you “write” a test? I’ve heard it many times, mind you, but it sounds weird.)

  4. “Teacher candidates win ‘huge victory’ over province’s mandatory math test for educators”

    The world has changed, there are so many high quality online math resources at all levels that the human adult in front of the room just needs to keep the kids on task, knowing math is no longer necessary.

  5. Most of the Western World population is totally brainwashed and lives in a non-existant unreal fantasy world.
    We have to cut that fantasy by the root. For this it is necessary that PC gag orders be rescinced and all #HateFacts and #RacistTruth be freely spoken and discussed.
    That all mandatory lies, omissions, and cover-ups (about “minority” crime and IQ) be rescinded and terminated.

    That scientific HONESTY and general LOGIC and scientific method be respected and mandatory and supreme.
    Much unnecessary suffering is caused by these false world views. Gifted children abandoned, average children disadvantaged to help the lower IQ people.

    By above logic, segregation would be necessary because racialized students want to be taught by racialized teachers.

    Racialized exists? I am unfamiliar with this term.

    • Replies: @NickG
    @TruthRevolution.net

    Good luck with that!

  6. “Racialized teacher candidates have gone through an education system in which they have suffered discrimination and disadvantage,” the decision said.

    The pupils on the other hand will only have to suffer incompetent teachers.

    I have a question about all this “race is a social construct” stuff. How do I, as a white man, know whom to oppress? Do I walk up to people in the street and say something like: “Excuse me sir, are you a Person of Color? Because, if you are, I would very much like to oppress you today. You’re not? Oh, never mind, sorry about the trouble. Oh, and by the way – White Power! 1488 and all that. Excuse me, miss……..pardon me, “Ms.”, ……….oh, I’m terribly sorry, “Xer”, are you a racialized minority whom I can oppress. You are? Excellent……………..We hope you’ve enjoyed being oppressed by us. We know you have many choices in oppressors, and we thank you for choosing “White Men” to oppress you today.”

  7. Pretending Ontario == Canada is almost identical to pretending California == America.

    Regardless, you can just, like, not send your kid to school. Which you should be doing anyway, unless you enjoy raising a pain-maddened cripple.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Alrenous

    Yeah, if California had 40% of the US population, its largest metropolitan area, and its national capital.

    Replies: @Alrenous

    , @Thelma Ringbaum
    @Alrenous

    Ontario pretty much is Canada. Quebec is AntiCanada, and the rest are occupied territories and british island colonies.

    As to the Sailers text, it seem to celebrate failure on the Paedagogy part of the test? As an evidence of something?

    It may be rather opposite, as a failure there might show that black and native teachers have an uncommon amount of common sense. Paedagogy these days is a sheer nonsense about learning styles and other things that are not.

    Replies: @Alrenous

  8. This is a topic that has been studied a lot going back to the Coleman Report in 1966. My impression is that, yes, there is some advantage in having a teacher of the same race as the student all else being equal.

    IIRC (It’s at least forty years since I read parts of the massive tome.), buried deep within the appendices of the Coleman Report is the hateful fact that pupils taught by male Negro teachers performed worse on average than pupils taught by teachers of any other sex and/or race.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Right, to protect the jobs of black male teachers in integrating school systems, Coleman buried a key finding that black male teachers tended to be the least effective teachers due to their low verbal cognitive scores.

    He apologized for this in his memoir.

    Replies: @education realist, @Ben tillman, @res, @HammerJack

    , @res
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Does anyone have a reference? It looks to me that not only are the hatefacts at the end, but they are bound separately and not even digitized.

    The section in question would be Appendix 9.10 Correlation Tables. And here is what I find.
    https://digital.tcl.sc.edu/digital/collection/eeo/id/72


    Bound in 2 parts; the second part has special t. p.: Supplemental appendix to the survey; section 9.10/correlation tables. Only first part is digitized. See Thomas Cooper Library for second part.
     
    Here is the 749 page PDF of the first part.
    https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED012275.pdf

    There is a discussion of the importance of teacher verbal skills starting on page 318/328.

    Starting on page 344/354 there is a discussion of the scores of Negro vs. White teachers. They even split the South out to show how bad it was there.

    But I am not seeing anything which matches your point exactly (so I am guessing in 9.10?).

    It turns out Appendix 9.10 is available (sort of) at
    https://archive.org/details/equalityofeducat0002cole/

    Page vi shows the relevant teacher variables.
    64 12 Verbal score
    66 14 Sex: Prop. male (q.1)
    67 15 Race: Prop. white (q.5)

    Page iii shows various student score variables. For example.
    1 1 Non-verbal score
    8 8 Verbal score

    I find it hard to extract anything useful out of that document. It is 555 pages of tables rotated 90 degrees (and the stupid interface does not allow rotating them to compensate).
  9. Candidates who identify as Indigenous and Black have success rates 20 per cent lower than white candidates.

    The Indigenous way of teaching math is simple and effective:

    This White chick makes it too complicated:

    bn shoe pencil steal 🐵 👟 ✏️🔪:

    • LOL: PaceLaw, Trelane
    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Nancy is quite fetching.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

  10. All of my math teachers in high school knew their respective subjects quite well.

    It was almost as if they were possibly a math major in college or maybe 2 years of math plus 2 years of education. E.g., a 2+2 program for public education in math.

    My favorite teachers in high school were always the math teachers, the only ones as smart as my parents.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  11. I found my way to the website offering practice tests…

    https://www.mathproficiencytest.ca/#/en/sample-questions-pre

    …but when I clicked on a test, a notice came up telling me that my screen is too small, in either the portrait or landscape mode. I can’t recall this remonstrance, this humiliation, ever happening before, anywhere else. I am on an iPad mini, which is not gigantic, but hey, people these days view things on their cellphone screens, they might even read War and Peace on a cell phone. Why would they go out of their way to make the practice tests difficult to view?

  12. Race does not exist. A race is socially constructed for the purpose of oppressing Blacks, Eskimos, and maybe Arabs and Asians, I am not sure. There is no White race, not even a socially constructed. Excuse me, that would be lower case white race, as it does not exist. Except at it concerns white supremacy, as that does refer to race as much as it does to oppression of people of color. Maybe that should be uppercased, as in BIPOC.

    So that leaves “racialized candidate” as a term for someone with a socially constructed race, like a BIPOC.

  13. “White students benefit from being taught by white teachers,” the court decision stated.

    Never mind — just checking. Sauce, goose, gander.

  14. I am reasonably certain that this is the equivalent of a math test for elementary school teachers. There’s not a great deal of evidence that high math achievement in elementary school teachers improves outcomes, and quite a bit that the race of elementary school teachers does–at least in the US.

    That said, removing the test entirely (as opposed to raising the cut score) is unnerving. But research will show if it has any impact on math scores.

    It’s very likely that high school and middle school math teachers still have to pass a test to teach in the subject.

  15. Recently, the Ontario Superior Court of Justice Divisional Court found the requirement infringes on the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The court’s Dec. 17 decision noted that racialized teachers were under-represented in Ontario and that there were alternatives to the MPT.

    Same old, same old. US, Canada, Australia … minoritarianism has cancelled republican government and law.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  16. How can the native Canadians possibly be bad in math??

    I mean, c’mon man, just look at that face! It screams, “I can do Diffy-Q’s in my sleep.”

  17. Good news from another outpost of empire though: Australia has successfully fought off the crazed extremism of “Affordable Family Formation”

    https://www.smh.com.au/property/news/house-prices-up-birth-rates-down-ceri-and-scott-caught-in-the-middle-20211217-p59igj.html

    Of the 40 or so classmates that I know from college, exactly one has three children (as I do). We are all in our 40s.

  18. Off Topic:

    Here is a fascinating but to me very distressing article about people coming to the US from Venezuela. Things are a mess down there, I cannot argue that: “Venezuela’s monthly minimum wage is equivalent to just \$3. Inflation reached 631% from January through November, according to the central bank.”

    But check out the tale of an accountant and his family’s journey to the US and his experience here so far, which have been trouble free in all respects and which the father of the family assumes will remain that way. I figure he put in a bogus asylum claim but he thinks he is home free — and he probably is, as long as a Democrat is president.

    If it that easy and painless, everybody will come.

    The idea that we have any right or ability to say no or that we are being put upon is completely absent. We are simply a convenience meant to be used. It is just breathtaking to realize all the calculations and assumptions being made and that people now just decide to come and then do it from thousands of miles away.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/migration-u-empties-venezuelas-once-140752731.html

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @notsaying

    Venezuelans, and Nicaraguans, are the new Cubans. They know Socialism is a disaster.

  19. @Jus' Sayin'...

    This is a topic that has been studied a lot going back to the Coleman Report in 1966. My impression is that, yes, there is some advantage in having a teacher of the same race as the student all else being equal.
     
    IIRC (It's at least forty years since I read parts of the massive tome.), buried deep within the appendices of the Coleman Report is the hateful fact that pupils taught by male Negro teachers performed worse on average than pupils taught by teachers of any other sex and/or race.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @res

    Right, to protect the jobs of black male teachers in integrating school systems, Coleman buried a key finding that black male teachers tended to be the least effective teachers due to their low verbal cognitive scores.

    He apologized for this in his memoir.

    • Replies: @education realist
    @Steve Sailer

    Do you have a cite for that, or a link? Not doubting you, just would like to see it because most evidence doesn't show that black teachers are more effective for black kids.

    , @Ben tillman
    @Steve Sailer

    Or perhaps the most incorrigible students were assigned to black men.

    Replies: @Moses

    , @res
    @Steve Sailer

    I am unable to find his memoir. I do see a "short unpublished autobiography" mentioned here:
    https://www.educationnext.org/life-times-james-s-coleman-school-policy-research/

    OT: The October 2021 Hillsdale College newsletter has a pair of interesting articles about the 2020 election.
    https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/

    , @HammerJack
    @Steve Sailer

    Apologized for the finding or for the burying?

  20. @Steve Sailer
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Right, to protect the jobs of black male teachers in integrating school systems, Coleman buried a key finding that black male teachers tended to be the least effective teachers due to their low verbal cognitive scores.

    He apologized for this in his memoir.

    Replies: @education realist, @Ben tillman, @res, @HammerJack

    Do you have a cite for that, or a link? Not doubting you, just would like to see it because most evidence doesn’t show that black teachers are more effective for black kids.

  21. The high verbal IQ Fran Liebowitz was very bad at math:

    https://simanaitissays.com/2020/04/01/enjoying-the-humor-of-fran-lebowitz/

    According to her Wikipedia entry (a very witty one), she described algebra as “the first thing which they presented to me that I absolutely could not understand at all, and had no interest in understanding.”

    Wikipedia continues, “She was sent to a psychologist after taking the SAT, because the margin between her 100% score in English and her extremely poor score in math was the greatest on record in New Jersey.”

  22. “My American readers will be familiar with the old saw, ‘The Constitution is not a suicide pact’. Well, in Canada, our Constitution is a suicide pact, and we’re proud of it.”

    Kevin Michael Grace

    Does “racializing” work anything like caramelizing?

    • Thanks: Gabe Ruth
    • LOL: notsaying
    • Replies: @Gamecock
    @Reg Cæsar


    “My American readers will be familiar with the old saw, ‘The Constitution is not a suicide pact’. Well, in Canada, our Constitution is a suicide pact, and we’re proud of it.”
     
    In fact, it is. The "old saw" was in the dissenting opinion of a case.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Reg Cæsar

    Canada is even farther down the covid tyranny path than we are. I hope Fauci doesn't see this.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6d155c461dfe63628c6e55372435fbae7fb6aff26ae0c41c388c464286b2d70e.jpg

  23. 4I think Griggs was used in a 2015 Supreme Court of Canada case. Some lawyers here were disappointed because they believed that Griggs implied a requirement for statistical proof of disparate impact, and that this would be a heavy burden on claimants. I’m not sure what these lawyers had in mind as evidence of discrimination. Magic? Mind reading? Evidently they haven’t had much success to date with their disparate impact lawsuits here. Perhaps their luck has changed with the Ontario courts?

  24. Disparate Impact Law Reigns Over Canada

    “Disparate Impact Law”?

    A more colloquial term is “communism” — “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.”

  25. OT and a bit dated:

    Transgender man who gave birth slams nurses who called him ‘Mom’

    https://nypost.com/2021/12/22/transgender-man-who-gave-birth-slams-docs-who-called-him-mom/

    “That’s why it’s so important that we stop defining ‘womanhood’ in terms of ‘motherhood,’ because it’s a false equivalency that all women can become mothers, that all mothers carry their children, or that all people who carry children are mothers.”

    • Replies: @res
    @Mike Tre

    I find it amazing ze could have a child with a beard like that (real?). The article does note: "Kaspar-Williams, 37, stopping his testosterone hormone therapy so that his ovaries could function."

    No comments on the article. Darn. Though the reactions give a clue (Next!) I guess.

    Frontrunner for iSteve male of the year?

    , @HammerJack
    @Mike Tre

    Okay, so it gave birth! But what did it give birth to?

    And why does one have the sneaking suspicion that public funds were involved?

    , @Gabe Ruth
    @Mike Tre

    I chose to believe the people in that picture are actors, so that I don’t do anything rash.

  26. This article is deficient in two ways.

    [1] The term “racialized” is central to this article, but is nowhere defined. What does it mean? All humans, apparently, are either racialized or unracialized. The assertion that “Racialized students benefit from being taught by racialized teachers” implies the testable research question: Of the four combinations of racialized and unracialized teacher and racialized and unracialized students, which combination produces the best results? Also, “racialize” is a transitive verb. How are people racialized and deracialized? Please describe the racialization process. Is it painful? Is better to be racialized, or unracialized?

    [2] The math test in question (50 mathematics content questions and 21 questions about math pedagogy) is now public and is short enough to be quoted in full in this article. Why hasn’t it been? Many readers would love to try it out to see how difficult it is.

    • Replies: @Moses
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    Your naïveté is adorable. So cute!

    “Racialized” is just a made up word to help justify their Power grab.

    None of this is logical.

    The point here is Power — getting it and forcing their warped vision for humanity down your throat.

  27. The word “racialized” is used to paper over the contradiction between:

    Race Does Not Exist
    All we talk about these days is race.

    In Britain famously in recent elections Tower Hamlets has been the last constituency to report a few times due to the blunt machinations of it’s new diverse Bengali political machine delaying the count.

    But at one time Tower Hamlets’ public housing was still very much native. This was maintained in part due to rules which gave preference to people with a connection to the area. This usually meant that they and their entire extended family lived in the area.

    The Bengalis didn’t like this since it didn’t tend to give much advantage to newcomers. So they railed against this and this ‘racist’ rule was removed and the local Londoners were eventually displaced by Bengals.

    What did the Bengals do once they reached a super majority in the local housing? They brought back the old rule to cement themselves in.

    ‘Race doesn’t exist’ really means: Please lay down your arms white people. There’s no conflict, these people aren’t displacing you because there is no ‘us versus them’ you’re both the same and don’t realise. Treat them no different to your 0wn. They don’t practice any preferential treatment.

    Of course, once the obstacle of the native WEIRD population is overcome, then suddenly it’s back to blood.

    We’re seeing this most blatantly with the shift from ‘color-blind’ to ‘color-conscious’.

    The solution to the paradox of:
    Race Does Not Exist
    All we talk about these days is race.

    Is that it really is:
    White people have no legitimate collective interests, only collective guilt.
    Non-whites only have pressing collective interests and no collective guilt.

    One side is encouraged to lay down their arms and act as individuals and the others are encouraged to aggress for social, economic and political space and to be self-conscious as members of a specific ethnic or racial group. The real paradox is that the latter are encouraged to feel this is right and just because of the presumed ethnocentrism of whites but in reality they are allowed to do so much because they aren’t.

    • Replies: @Emblematic
    @Altai

    I think it's also why they're now saying the word 'democracy' over and over. Back when whites were the strong majority it was the rights of minorities that mattered most. But now that the numbers are trending the other way, it's the rights of the majority that counts, hence all the talk about "democracy".

    Replies: @Mike_from_SGV

  28. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Candidates who identify as Indigenous and Black have success rates 20 per cent lower than white candidates.
     
    The Indigenous way of teaching math is simple and effective:


    https://youtu.be/d6s6v5RI7mY?t=5

    This White chick makes it too complicated:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5WQlcFTXyk

    bn shoe pencil steal 🐵 👟 ✏️🔪:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2uPYYLH4Zo

    Replies: @Ganderson

    Nancy is quite fetching.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Ganderson

    She looks like a female Scott Greer. Hard to unsee.

    https://i1.wp.com/www.opindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/images-45.jpeg

  29. @Ganderson
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Nancy is quite fetching.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    She looks like a female Scott Greer. Hard to unsee.

    [MORE]

  30. @Jus' Sayin'...

    This is a topic that has been studied a lot going back to the Coleman Report in 1966. My impression is that, yes, there is some advantage in having a teacher of the same race as the student all else being equal.
     
    IIRC (It's at least forty years since I read parts of the massive tome.), buried deep within the appendices of the Coleman Report is the hateful fact that pupils taught by male Negro teachers performed worse on average than pupils taught by teachers of any other sex and/or race.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @res

    Does anyone have a reference? It looks to me that not only are the hatefacts at the end, but they are bound separately and not even digitized.

    The section in question would be Appendix 9.10 Correlation Tables. And here is what I find.
    https://digital.tcl.sc.edu/digital/collection/eeo/id/72

    Bound in 2 parts; the second part has special t. p.: Supplemental appendix to the survey; section 9.10/correlation tables. Only first part is digitized. See Thomas Cooper Library for second part.

    Here is the 749 page PDF of the first part.
    https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED012275.pdf

    There is a discussion of the importance of teacher verbal skills starting on page 318/328.

    Starting on page 344/354 there is a discussion of the scores of Negro vs. White teachers. They even split the South out to show how bad it was there.

    But I am not seeing anything which matches your point exactly (so I am guessing in 9.10?).

    It turns out Appendix 9.10 is available (sort of) at
    https://archive.org/details/equalityofeducat0002cole/

    Page vi shows the relevant teacher variables.
    64 12 Verbal score
    66 14 Sex: Prop. male (q.1)
    67 15 Race: Prop. white (q.5)

    Page iii shows various student score variables. For example.
    1 1 Non-verbal score
    8 8 Verbal score

    I find it hard to extract anything useful out of that document. It is 555 pages of tables rotated 90 degrees (and the stupid interface does not allow rotating them to compensate).

  31. @Steve Sailer
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Right, to protect the jobs of black male teachers in integrating school systems, Coleman buried a key finding that black male teachers tended to be the least effective teachers due to their low verbal cognitive scores.

    He apologized for this in his memoir.

    Replies: @education realist, @Ben tillman, @res, @HammerJack

    Or perhaps the most incorrigible students were assigned to black men.

    • Replies: @Moses
    @Ben tillman

    Yeah yeah yeah, that’s the ticket!

  32. @Steve Sailer
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Right, to protect the jobs of black male teachers in integrating school systems, Coleman buried a key finding that black male teachers tended to be the least effective teachers due to their low verbal cognitive scores.

    He apologized for this in his memoir.

    Replies: @education realist, @Ben tillman, @res, @HammerJack

    I am unable to find his memoir. I do see a “short unpublished autobiography” mentioned here:
    https://www.educationnext.org/life-times-james-s-coleman-school-policy-research/

    OT: The October 2021 Hillsdale College newsletter has a pair of interesting articles about the 2020 election.
    https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/

  33. @Mike Tre
    OT and a bit dated:

    Transgender man who gave birth slams nurses who called him ‘Mom’

    https://nypost.com/2021/12/22/transgender-man-who-gave-birth-slams-docs-who-called-him-mom/

    “That’s why it’s so important that we stop defining ‘womanhood’ in terms of ‘motherhood,’ because it’s a false equivalency that all women can become mothers, that all mothers carry their children, or that all people who carry children are mothers.”


    https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/trans-parent-hospital-01.jpg

    Replies: @res, @HammerJack, @Gabe Ruth

    I find it amazing ze could have a child with a beard like that (real?). The article does note: “Kaspar-Williams, 37, stopping his testosterone hormone therapy so that his ovaries could function.”

    No comments on the article. Darn. Though the reactions give a clue (Next!) I guess.

    Frontrunner for iSteve male of the year?

  34. Wokanada is beyond redemption, damned to mediocrity by multi-generational Trudeaus.

  35. @Alrenous
    Pretending Ontario == Canada is almost identical to pretending California == America.

    Regardless, you can just, like, not send your kid to school. Which you should be doing anyway, unless you enjoy raising a pain-maddened cripple.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Thelma Ringbaum

    Yeah, if California had 40% of the US population, its largest metropolitan area, and its national capital.

    • Replies: @Alrenous
    @anonymous

    ...is that your best argument?

  36. Atimniraye Nyelade

    “PhD in sociology from Shanghai University”
    lol

    https://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=2742420

    Every second spent in this class was painful. Honestly never had a worse prof at UOttawa or anywhere else. Can’t even compare. He’s nice enough though. No grading criterion and seems to need to be taught the class rather than be teaching it.

    It looks like his students feel a bit shanghai’d.

    https://codesria.org/spip.php?article3145
    Pandemic and Social Distancing: The Racial and Olfactory Origin of Social Distancing

    The COVID-19 pandemic led public authorities to impose preventive measures such as ‘social distancing’. Our research shows that this expression is pejorative in orientation, and loaded with historical racial stigma and discrimination against ethnic groups, and especially black people.

    • Replies: @Gabe Ruth
    @Don Unf

    At least he’s making important contributions! Science was the real racist all along.

  37. @Altai

    The word “racialized” is used to paper over the contradiction between:

    Race Does Not Exist
    All we talk about these days is race.

     

    In Britain famously in recent elections Tower Hamlets has been the last constituency to report a few times due to the blunt machinations of it's new diverse Bengali political machine delaying the count.

    But at one time Tower Hamlets' public housing was still very much native. This was maintained in part due to rules which gave preference to people with a connection to the area. This usually meant that they and their entire extended family lived in the area.

    The Bengalis didn't like this since it didn't tend to give much advantage to newcomers. So they railed against this and this 'racist' rule was removed and the local Londoners were eventually displaced by Bengals.

    What did the Bengals do once they reached a super majority in the local housing? They brought back the old rule to cement themselves in.

    'Race doesn't exist' really means: Please lay down your arms white people. There's no conflict, these people aren't displacing you because there is no 'us versus them' you're both the same and don't realise. Treat them no different to your 0wn. They don't practice any preferential treatment.

    Of course, once the obstacle of the native WEIRD population is overcome, then suddenly it's back to blood.

    We're seeing this most blatantly with the shift from 'color-blind' to 'color-conscious'.

    The solution to the paradox of:
    Race Does Not Exist
    All we talk about these days is race.

    Is that it really is:
    White people have no legitimate collective interests, only collective guilt.
    Non-whites only have pressing collective interests and no collective guilt.

    One side is encouraged to lay down their arms and act as individuals and the others are encouraged to aggress for social, economic and political space and to be self-conscious as members of a specific ethnic or racial group. The real paradox is that the latter are encouraged to feel this is right and just because of the presumed ethnocentrism of whites but in reality they are allowed to do so much because they aren't.

    Replies: @Emblematic

    I think it’s also why they’re now saying the word ‘democracy’ over and over. Back when whites were the strong majority it was the rights of minorities that mattered most. But now that the numbers are trending the other way, it’s the rights of the majority that counts, hence all the talk about “democracy”.

    • Replies: @Mike_from_SGV
    @Emblematic

    I've also noticed the "d" word a lot lately. In woke context, 'democracy' means 'unchallenged political/cultural leftist hegemony'. When they say 'democracy is threatened', that's what it's about.

  38. @stillCARealist
    It's Thursday afternoon. Are you getting hammered with rain down there? We got 2 inches in 24 hours up here. Pretty good so far this year.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    In your next post, are you going to propose trading recipes or something?

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @HammerJack

    I have this fantastic new sweet potato bread recipe that I've tweaked to perfection. The potassium count is high and no added sugar required. Want it?

  39. @Steve Sailer
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Right, to protect the jobs of black male teachers in integrating school systems, Coleman buried a key finding that black male teachers tended to be the least effective teachers due to their low verbal cognitive scores.

    He apologized for this in his memoir.

    Replies: @education realist, @Ben tillman, @res, @HammerJack

    Apologized for the finding or for the burying?

  40. @Mike Tre
    OT and a bit dated:

    Transgender man who gave birth slams nurses who called him ‘Mom’

    https://nypost.com/2021/12/22/transgender-man-who-gave-birth-slams-docs-who-called-him-mom/

    “That’s why it’s so important that we stop defining ‘womanhood’ in terms of ‘motherhood,’ because it’s a false equivalency that all women can become mothers, that all mothers carry their children, or that all people who carry children are mothers.”


    https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/trans-parent-hospital-01.jpg

    Replies: @res, @HammerJack, @Gabe Ruth

    Okay, so it gave birth! But what did it give birth to?

    And why does one have the sneaking suspicion that public funds were involved?

  41. The word “racialized” is used to paper over the contradiction between:

    Race Does Not Exist
    All we talk about these days is race.

    So, you see, it’s not like people being legally privileged by this judicial reasoning are getting these extra rights for racial reasons, it’s instead because they’ve been “racialized” in some kind of socially constructed mass delusion.

    I’d also note that it’s important for Jews now since the term ‘racism’ used to be very easily used in the English-speaking world to refer to any ethnic discrimination against other whites, Jewish or no. But in recent times I’d wager that’s no longer PC. The ‘race’ part of ‘racism’ is suddenly central and the expanded use to refer to all kinds of ethnic discrimination is now awkward and potentially an emotive minefield. See David Baddiel on the Seth Meyer’s show getting twitchy about if Jews are counted as non-white. Him and Bari Weiss seem to be of the same instinct. But caution is required to make sure the wealthiest ethnic groups in the West that supports Israel doesn’t get seen as trying to make things all about themselves and bring attention to themselves.

    Here he posits a surreal universe where somehow Jews have been forgotten and is concerned that ‘anti-semitism’ isn’t seen as racism. (Implicitly, of course, we’re taking the source of it being from a white gentile) Although I’d argue anti-semitism has traditionally occupied a unique niche due to Jewish influence of being a special kind of racism that was suggested to be uniquely insane or irrational. (Which, when you think about it, is pretty racist itself)

    There’s apparently a lot at stake in creating terms like ‘racialized’ that get around the focus on blacks and race with a capital R.

    • Replies: @Moses
    @Altai

    We Jews don’t want you to notice us, except when we want you to notice us.

    We get very sensitive when someone recognizes and verbalizes one of us is Jewish.

    “Are you Jewish?” from a Gentile sounds no different to us from the approaching hooves of the Cossacks.

    Replies: @res

  42. 2 +2 = 4 unless Glocktavius feels otherwise.

  43. Here’s a link to the court decision .
    https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onscdc/doc/2021/2021onsc7386/2021onsc7386.html

    Steve could spend all of 2022 discussing it and the bios of the two ladies who authored it (a human rights lawyer and go along to get along lib member of the Toronto legal elite).

    My favourite line is a finding when they field-tested the test: “Candidates who indicated they had a cognitive disability failed the Field Test at over twice the rate of candidates without a disability.”

    Also, they rely on the leading case on “disparate impact” from the Supreme Court of Canada authored by Rosalie Abella, a Jewish jurist. Her tribe is overrepresented on the bench by maybe a factor of 10, for now.

  44. @anonymous
    @Alrenous

    Yeah, if California had 40% of the US population, its largest metropolitan area, and its national capital.

    Replies: @Alrenous

    …is that your best argument?

  45. @HammerJack
    @stillCARealist

    In your next post, are you going to propose trading recipes or something?

    Replies: @stillCARealist

    I have this fantastic new sweet potato bread recipe that I’ve tweaked to perfection. The potassium count is high and no added sugar required. Want it?

  46. “Racialized students benefit from being taught by racialized teachers…”

    So, better to be taught by a dumb-ass of your own race vs. an intelligent person of a different race?

    Add it to the list of religious dogma preached by those infected with the Woke Mind Virus.

  47. @Emblematic
    @Altai

    I think it's also why they're now saying the word 'democracy' over and over. Back when whites were the strong majority it was the rights of minorities that mattered most. But now that the numbers are trending the other way, it's the rights of the majority that counts, hence all the talk about "democracy".

    Replies: @Mike_from_SGV

    I’ve also noticed the “d” word a lot lately. In woke context, ‘democracy’ means ‘unchallenged political/cultural leftist hegemony’. When they say ‘democracy is threatened’, that’s what it’s about.

  48. @Mike Tre
    OT and a bit dated:

    Transgender man who gave birth slams nurses who called him ‘Mom’

    https://nypost.com/2021/12/22/transgender-man-who-gave-birth-slams-docs-who-called-him-mom/

    “That’s why it’s so important that we stop defining ‘womanhood’ in terms of ‘motherhood,’ because it’s a false equivalency that all women can become mothers, that all mothers carry their children, or that all people who carry children are mothers.”


    https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/trans-parent-hospital-01.jpg

    Replies: @res, @HammerJack, @Gabe Ruth

    I chose to believe the people in that picture are actors, so that I don’t do anything rash.

  49. @Don Unf

    Atimniraye Nyelade
     
    "PhD in sociology from Shanghai University"
    lol

    https://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=2742420

    Every second spent in this class was painful. Honestly never had a worse prof at UOttawa or anywhere else. Can't even compare. He's nice enough though. No grading criterion and seems to need to be taught the class rather than be teaching it.
     
    It looks like his students feel a bit shanghai'd.

    https://codesria.org/spip.php?article3145
    Pandemic and Social Distancing: The Racial and Olfactory Origin of Social Distancing

    The COVID-19 pandemic led public authorities to impose preventive measures such as ‘social distancing’. Our research shows that this expression is pejorative in orientation, and loaded with historical racial stigma and discrimination against ethnic groups, and especially black people.
     

    Replies: @Gabe Ruth

    At least he’s making important contributions! Science was the real racist all along.

  50. Public education is everywhere and always a disaster.

  51. @Alrenous
    Pretending Ontario == Canada is almost identical to pretending California == America.

    Regardless, you can just, like, not send your kid to school. Which you should be doing anyway, unless you enjoy raising a pain-maddened cripple.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Thelma Ringbaum

    Ontario pretty much is Canada. Quebec is AntiCanada, and the rest are occupied territories and british island colonies.

    As to the Sailers text, it seem to celebrate failure on the Paedagogy part of the test? As an evidence of something?

    It may be rather opposite, as a failure there might show that black and native teachers have an uncommon amount of common sense. Paedagogy these days is a sheer nonsense about learning styles and other things that are not.

    • Replies: @Alrenous
    @Thelma Ringbaum

    I'm hearing "Texas is an occupied territory," and I can hardly disagree.

    Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum

  52. @Reg Cæsar
    "My American readers will be familiar with the old saw, 'The Constitution is not a suicide pact'. Well, in Canada, our Constitution is a suicide pact, and we're proud of it."

    --Kevin Michael Grace

    Does "racializing" work anything like caramelizing?


    https://jamiegeller.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_1200/MTY1NTI0ODI3MjIxODYxNDAz/caramelized-onion-halvesjpg.jpg

    Replies: @Gamecock, @Jim Don Bob

    “My American readers will be familiar with the old saw, ‘The Constitution is not a suicide pact’. Well, in Canada, our Constitution is a suicide pact, and we’re proud of it.”

    In fact, it is. The “old saw” was in the dissenting opinion of a case.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Gamecock


    In fact, it is. The “old saw” was in the dissenting opinion of a case.
     
    In other words, Lansing and Yates were right to storm out of the convention. They saw what was coming.
  53. @Thelma Ringbaum
    @Alrenous

    Ontario pretty much is Canada. Quebec is AntiCanada, and the rest are occupied territories and british island colonies.

    As to the Sailers text, it seem to celebrate failure on the Paedagogy part of the test? As an evidence of something?

    It may be rather opposite, as a failure there might show that black and native teachers have an uncommon amount of common sense. Paedagogy these days is a sheer nonsense about learning styles and other things that are not.

    Replies: @Alrenous

    I’m hearing “Texas is an occupied territory,” and I can hardly disagree.

    • Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum
    @Alrenous

    Chaos and comfusion down in US werent that good for the Wexit movement.

  54. @Gamecock
    @Reg Cæsar


    “My American readers will be familiar with the old saw, ‘The Constitution is not a suicide pact’. Well, in Canada, our Constitution is a suicide pact, and we’re proud of it.”
     
    In fact, it is. The "old saw" was in the dissenting opinion of a case.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    In fact, it is. The “old saw” was in the dissenting opinion of a case.

    In other words, Lansing and Yates were right to storm out of the convention. They saw what was coming.

  55. @notsaying
    Off Topic:

    Here is a fascinating but to me very distressing article about people coming to the US from Venezuela. Things are a mess down there, I cannot argue that: "Venezuela's monthly minimum wage is equivalent to just $3. Inflation reached 631% from January through November, according to the central bank."

    But check out the tale of an accountant and his family's journey to the US and his experience here so far, which have been trouble free in all respects and which the father of the family assumes will remain that way. I figure he put in a bogus asylum claim but he thinks he is home free -- and he probably is, as long as a Democrat is president.

    If it that easy and painless, everybody will come.

    The idea that we have any right or ability to say no or that we are being put upon is completely absent. We are simply a convenience meant to be used. It is just breathtaking to realize all the calculations and assumptions being made and that people now just decide to come and then do it from thousands of miles away.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/migration-u-empties-venezuelas-once-140752731.html

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Venezuelans, and Nicaraguans, are the new Cubans. They know Socialism is a disaster.

  56. @Alrenous
    @Thelma Ringbaum

    I'm hearing "Texas is an occupied territory," and I can hardly disagree.

    Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum

    Chaos and comfusion down in US werent that good for the Wexit movement.

  57. Of the non-white candidates writing the test in French, 55 per cent were successful compared to 84 per cent of the white candidates writing in French, the court heard.

    In her Anne books, Lucy Maud Montgomery portrayed French-Canadians as dullard contract laborers.

  58. @Reg Cæsar
    "My American readers will be familiar with the old saw, 'The Constitution is not a suicide pact'. Well, in Canada, our Constitution is a suicide pact, and we're proud of it."

    --Kevin Michael Grace

    Does "racializing" work anything like caramelizing?


    https://jamiegeller.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_1200/MTY1NTI0ODI3MjIxODYxNDAz/caramelized-onion-halvesjpg.jpg

    Replies: @Gamecock, @Jim Don Bob

    Canada is even farther down the covid tyranny path than we are. I hope Fauci doesn’t see this.

  59. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    This article is deficient in two ways.

    [1] The term "racialized" is central to this article, but is nowhere defined. What does it mean? All humans, apparently, are either racialized or unracialized. The assertion that “Racialized students benefit from being taught by racialized teachers” implies the testable research question: Of the four combinations of racialized and unracialized teacher and racialized and unracialized students, which combination produces the best results? Also, "racialize" is a transitive verb. How are people racialized and deracialized? Please describe the racialization process. Is it painful? Is better to be racialized, or unracialized?

    [2] The math test in question (50 mathematics content questions and 21 questions about math pedagogy) is now public and is short enough to be quoted in full in this article. Why hasn't it been? Many readers would love to try it out to see how difficult it is.

    Replies: @Moses

    Your naïveté is adorable. So cute!

    “Racialized” is just a made up word to help justify their Power grab.

    None of this is logical.

    The point here is Power — getting it and forcing their warped vision for humanity down your throat.

  60. @Ben tillman
    @Steve Sailer

    Or perhaps the most incorrigible students were assigned to black men.

    Replies: @Moses

    Yeah yeah yeah, that’s the ticket!

  61. @Altai

    The word “racialized” is used to paper over the contradiction between:

    Race Does Not Exist
    All we talk about these days is race.

    So, you see, it’s not like people being legally privileged by this judicial reasoning are getting these extra rights for racial reasons, it’s instead because they’ve been “racialized” in some kind of socially constructed mass delusion.
     
    I'd also note that it's important for Jews now since the term 'racism' used to be very easily used in the English-speaking world to refer to any ethnic discrimination against other whites, Jewish or no. But in recent times I'd wager that's no longer PC. The 'race' part of 'racism' is suddenly central and the expanded use to refer to all kinds of ethnic discrimination is now awkward and potentially an emotive minefield. See David Baddiel on the Seth Meyer's show getting twitchy about if Jews are counted as non-white. Him and Bari Weiss seem to be of the same instinct. But caution is required to make sure the wealthiest ethnic groups in the West that supports Israel doesn't get seen as trying to make things all about themselves and bring attention to themselves.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O3N1HadPPA

    Here he posits a surreal universe where somehow Jews have been forgotten and is concerned that 'anti-semitism' isn't seen as racism. (Implicitly, of course, we're taking the source of it being from a white gentile) Although I'd argue anti-semitism has traditionally occupied a unique niche due to Jewish influence of being a special kind of racism that was suggested to be uniquely insane or irrational. (Which, when you think about it, is pretty racist itself)

    There's apparently a lot at stake in creating terms like 'racialized' that get around the focus on blacks and race with a capital R.

    Replies: @Moses

    We Jews don’t want you to notice us, except when we want you to notice us.

    We get very sensitive when someone recognizes and verbalizes one of us is Jewish.

    “Are you Jewish?” from a Gentile sounds no different to us from the approaching hooves of the Cossacks.

    • Replies: @res
    @Moses


    “Are you Jewish?” from a Gentile sounds no different to us from the approaching hooves of the Cossacks.
     
    How should “Are you Jewish?” from a Jew to me (not a Jew) sound? It was delivered in a very strained manner which was interesting. I guess he could not figure anything else to do but ask directly. I think it's kind of a funny story, but the context is too personally specific to elaborate under a pseudonym.

    P.S. Net result was I was excluded from something because I answered no. Maybe I should get reparations? ; )

    Replies: @Moses

  62. @Moses
    @Altai

    We Jews don’t want you to notice us, except when we want you to notice us.

    We get very sensitive when someone recognizes and verbalizes one of us is Jewish.

    “Are you Jewish?” from a Gentile sounds no different to us from the approaching hooves of the Cossacks.

    Replies: @res

    “Are you Jewish?” from a Gentile sounds no different to us from the approaching hooves of the Cossacks.

    How should “Are you Jewish?” from a Jew to me (not a Jew) sound? It was delivered in a very strained manner which was interesting. I guess he could not figure anything else to do but ask directly. I think it’s kind of a funny story, but the context is too personally specific to elaborate under a pseudonym.

    P.S. Net result was I was excluded from something because I answered no. Maybe I should get reparations? ; )

    • Replies: @Moses
    @res


    P.S. Net result was I was excluded from something because I answered no. Maybe I should get reparations? ; )
     
    Yes you were and good for him. The whole point of a 3000 year old in-group/out-group ethnic orientation is excluding out-groups like you.

    File under “It’s good for us Jews.”

  63. Anonymous[289] • Disclaimer says:

    “Racialized students benefit from being taught by racialized teachers”

    Wait – I thought that black kids could only learn while sitting next to white kids? I really can’t keep up with the latest theories on how black kids learn.

    Anyway, while they’re working up an aptitude test on which blacks and whites (and the Asians we never talk about) do equally well, they should also invent a marathon race that is not overwhelmingly won by East Africans. I’m positively certain they can figure out a way to do that.

  64. @res
    @Moses


    “Are you Jewish?” from a Gentile sounds no different to us from the approaching hooves of the Cossacks.
     
    How should “Are you Jewish?” from a Jew to me (not a Jew) sound? It was delivered in a very strained manner which was interesting. I guess he could not figure anything else to do but ask directly. I think it's kind of a funny story, but the context is too personally specific to elaborate under a pseudonym.

    P.S. Net result was I was excluded from something because I answered no. Maybe I should get reparations? ; )

    Replies: @Moses

    P.S. Net result was I was excluded from something because I answered no. Maybe I should get reparations? ; )

    Yes you were and good for him. The whole point of a 3000 year old in-group/out-group ethnic orientation is excluding out-groups like you.

    File under “It’s good for us Jews.”

    • LOL: JMcG, res
  65. @TruthRevolution.net
    Most of the Western World population is totally brainwashed and lives in a non-existant unreal fantasy world.
    We have to cut that fantasy by the root. For this it is necessary that PC gag orders be rescinced and all #HateFacts and #RacistTruth be freely spoken and discussed.
    That all mandatory lies, omissions, and cover-ups (about "minority" crime and IQ) be rescinded and terminated.

    That scientific HONESTY and general LOGIC and scientific method be respected and mandatory and supreme.
    Much unnecessary suffering is caused by these false world views. Gifted children abandoned, average children disadvantaged to help the lower IQ people.

    By above logic, segregation would be necessary because racialized students want to be taught by racialized teachers.

    Racialized exists? I am unfamiliar with this term.

    Replies: @NickG

    Good luck with that!

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