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I’ve long wondered if the new New York school supremo Richard Carranza, a doctrinaire Mexican-American leftist from the West, is in over his head in the viper pit that is New York City parenting. Carranza has made explicit the argument that either blacks and Hispanics average lower on tests due to white racism or … [gasp] … The Bell Curve is right!
But that argument has flopped with New York City Asian parents.
From the New York Times:
Amid Racial Divisions, Mayor’s Plan to Scrap Elite School Exam Fails
Opposition from Asian lawmakers and a billionaire’s lobbying push helped block Bill de Blasio’s plan to desegregate New York’s specialized schools.
By Eliza Shapiro and Vivian Wang
June 24, 2019Richard A. Carranza, the city schools chancellor, insisted last week that the plan to eliminate the entrance exam that dictates admission into Stuyvesant High School and the city’s other top public high schools was gaining traction.
“There’s some real momentum,” Mr. Carranza said at the State Capitol.
Two days later, the bill died. The Legislature adjourned, having taken no action on the specialized school exam.
The contentious bill divided many of New York’s families along racial lines: Black and Hispanic students have seen their numbers at the prized schools plummet over the last two decades, while some Asian families argued that the mayor’s plan discriminated against the low-income Asian students who are now a majority at the schools.
But the extent of the proposal’s radioactivity was unusual in Albany, particularly during a session that was marked by the newly Democrat-controlled body’s willingness to take up issues that had long been considered off-limits.
… It touched off the same racial divisions among black, Hispanic and Asian lawmakers as it had among parents in New York City. …
“When something is so poorly done, it never had a shot — and rightfully so,” said Senator John Liu, a Queens Democrat who graduated from a specialized school, the Bronx High School of Science, and holds a key position on an education committee.
Mr. de Blasio and others have argued that the only way to increase the number of black and Hispanic students in the schools is to eliminate the exam. This year, only seven black students received offers to Stuyvesant High School, the most selective of the specialized schools, out of 895 seats. Albany has controlled the exam since 1971. Mr. de Blasio wanted to replace the test with a system that offered seats to top performers at every city middle school.
But the bill never made it to a floor vote, and only passed out of the Assembly’s education committee last week after several of the committee’s Democrats aired grievances with the legislation and voted against it.
There were no rallies in support of the mayor’s plan on the Capitol’s grand staircase and almost no lobbyists pushed it — except Mr. de Blasio and Mr. Carranza and their staff members. …
In casting his “no” vote during the education committee meeting earlier this week, Assemblyman Ron Kim, a Queens Democrat, accused the mayor of creating a “nasty narrative” that pitted Asian families against black and Hispanic parents. …
An April town hall meeting in Queens offered a window into how much passion — and tension — the elite schools can evoke.
Speaking before a packed room, Mary Alice Miller, a black alumna of Stuyvesant, said the arguments against change were filled with “racial coding.”
“It’s very offensive to hear all the racial coding: that African-Americans are not good enough, if more of us are accepted into the schools, the specialized schools will bring down their standards.”
… Before the meeting, Bernard Chow, a Queens activist, spoke against the mayor’s proposal.
“All the hard-working students, the students who are willing to give up basketball and stay home and study,” he said, speaking over “keep the test” chants and banging drums. “Those students who are willing to give up video games, and look at the book, it’s unfair to them.”
Wai Wah Chin, president of the Chinese American Citizens Alliance of Greater New York, likened Mr. de Blasio’s plan to the Chinese Exclusion Act, an 1800s law restricting Asian immigration.
A few minutes later, Dulce Marquez, a recent New York high school graduate, called the entrance exam “a product of institutional racism.”
… As the discussion outside of Albany grew more fraught, wealthy benefactors jumped in, helping to guarantee that Mr. de Blasio’s plan would fail.
Over the last two months, an effort spearheaded by Ronald Lauder, a billionaire cosmetics heir who graduated from Bronx Science, poured several million dollars into an advertising and lobbying effort to keep the exam and diversify the schools through other means, including free universal test preparation and more gifted and talented programs.
We need more of this. Like Muslim parents vs mandatory Drag Queen Story Hour.
Encourage Drag Queens to demand Story Hour in Muslim dominated Elementary and Middle Schools.
Hilarity ensues!
Rosie and Whiskey agree about something!
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/26/birmingham-anderton-park-primary-muslim-protests-lgbt-teaching-rights
Still funny to you?
Direct quoting of @ Isteve on Carlson tonight. ( without attribution grrr )
Invade/Invite dichotomy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VKdsJynFdGI&t=19m40s
Encourage Drag Queens to demand Story Hour in Muslim dominated Elementary and Middle Schools.
Hilarity ensues!
Mark the calendar.
Rosie and Whiskey agree about something!
https://www.rosesandwhiskey.co.uk/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opndOpM8jso
Pronounced “We watchin’!”
Encourage Drag Queens to demand Story Hour in Muslim dominated Elementary and Middle Schools.
Hilarity ensues!
https://twitter.com/Ilhan/status/1141826315240255488
Rosie and Whiskey agree about something!
YES, I DID MAKE A WHISKEY AND ROSÉ COCKTAIL
https://www.rosesandwhiskey.co.uk/
“Free universal test-prep..” ? Yep, that should even things right out and wouldn’t be a government handout to the Asians at all. Lol…
White people subjecting their kids to such a system ought to have CPS take them away. The resulting hard-knocks education they’d get in foster care might actually do something to teach them about the future that awaits.
Encourage Drag Queens to demand Story Hour in Muslim dominated Elementary and Middle Schools.
Hilarity ensues!
Our Muslim friends in the UK are way ahead of you:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/26/birmingham-anderton-park-primary-muslim-protests-lgbt-teaching-rights
The Guardian photo shows anodyne protest signs like "Our voice must be heard," and "Let kids be kids." A quick Google Images search shows that most of the protest signs are things like "Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" and " Say No to sexualisation of children."
But she still thinks white.
Meet the new boss. More competitive and uncharitable than the old boss.
Ha, ha, suckers!
All just part of the effort to maintain the long con against Whitey.
The link is wrong.
Correct link:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/24/nyregion/specialized-schools-nyc-deblasio.html
Should I be amazed that the NYT appears entirely unsympathetic to the plight of high-achieving, low income immigrant Chinese, at the expense of writing such as a harbinger of fairness:
If de Blasio thinks there’s unfairness due to a limit supply of seats, but an excess of qualified students, why doesn’t he nominate a few more schools to be landing zones for the SHAT?
Originally, there were 4 schools–some years ago, 4 more were added. Why not add another 4?
Some of the admission by test schools used to have a lot of blacks back when the outer boroughs were declining and whites were fleeing, but they have since been replaced by Asians.
Stuyvesant High, certified high IQ safe space! 😂
Yes, that's true...these are not really 'science schools' but safe spaces for the Asians and some IQ White students who would otherwise be beat up every day in our regular public school system...
Just like the Yeshivas have turned into safe spaces for Jewish kids to be educated and the few screened elementary and middle schools are safe spaces for middle income White kids to attend.
However, DeBlasio has semi-achieved his goal by forcing the science schools to increase their enrollment for Discovery Program students (it's up to 20% now maybe higher) which means those 20% spots are held for students who don't pass the test and get admitted later...most of those students were Asians as well...but I think now they might begin using his formula for that 20% to take the highest performers from every middle school in the city...that will be about 200 kids or so every year per school. More than enough to wreck any safe spaces those schools might have provided.
When NY Times comments (which tend to run classic NY liberal leftist although not 2019 Wokist) are against you as a NY Democrat, you’ve moved to the left of the NY Dem mainstream (which is pretty damn left – Trump is about as popular as Hitler with this crowd) and you don’t stand a chance.
The comments are overwhelmingly against De Blasio and they appear to be coming from white people and not just Asians:
333 recommend
310 recommend
etc. Maybe there was one comment favorable to DeBlasio’s position but if so, I didn’t find it before I got bored.
The good thing about NYC government is that it is so historically untrustworthy that anything of any importance (even if it would normally be a local decision anywhere else) is required by law to be decided by the State Legislature in Albany. So all the mayor can do is kvetch and beg but he is powerless to actually put his idiotic plan into place. Recently, the NY State legislature moved left (Dems control both houses and the governor’s office) but not THAT far left.
Not really, since it could certainly in theory be racist in favor of Asians. For some reason this option is never discussed.
So the Asians are going to inherit the nation. Caste system in 5 4 3 2…
These are I think Chinese, no caste system, other than the usual class and race one.
China has for 2000 years had a remarkably meritocratic system, hardcore economic Darwinism, though of course mediated by nepotism.
Any bright young boy could in theory, and quite often in practice, rise to the very highest positions below that of Emperor.
Tonight I’m really wondering if this catchphrase isn’t becoming obsolete. Not just because Asians are sometimes singled out for daring to excel, but because what we used to think of as “fringes” are completely front-and-center in our National Narrative. They’re not ‘fringe’ at all.
It’s not just in the mass media, the institutions, and commerce: white people are becoming the fringe, and a universally despised one at that. The parody account here known as TD is becoming less and less parodic, without even changing much. Not just universally despised, but uniquely so because no other group makes such a point of despising itself.
Tonight I was in the grocery store, and among 30 or so people only I and one other shopper was not an obvious ‘jungle person’. We were the only ones noticeably taller than five feet, not to mention six, and we were the only ones taller than we are wide, not to mention much taller. Hardly anyone was speaking English, needless to add. These observations most definitely include the store staff.
The point there is that I live in a putatively ‘nice’ suburban area adjacent to a second-tier city. Not Washington, not NYC or LA, just what used to be a normal, American city. According to demographic maps and census figures, this is still a majority-white district. Which is why I call BS on the official figures. Tonight’s experience is no longer unusual.
My friends and family don’t understand the issue, because they’re so well trained that they only feel comfortable around POCs. Just as you’ll read in the NYT and NYer, they start to feel real anxiety if there are only white people around them.
They will get that reality check after they are replaced and are told impolitely to sit at the back of the bus.
The people on this blog are aware of what is coming because we are paying attention to the early stages of this.
“Wayfair Employees To Protest Company’s Business With Migrant Border Camps”
“Knowing what’s going on at the southern border and knowing that Wayfair has the potential to profit from it is pretty scary,” Elizabeth Good, a Wayfair manager who helped organize the group, told the Boston Globe on Tuesday.
“I want to work at a company where the standards we hold ourselves to are the same standards that we hold our customers and our partners to.”
Employees plan a walkout for Wednesday after executives refused to stop selling furniture intended for migrant detention centers.
According to the group, Wayfair agreed to sell beds to furnish detention centers.
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) said she stood behind the Wayfair employees’ protest, noting that the “safety and well-being of immigrant children is always worth fighting for.”
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), who has referred to detention centers as “concentration camps,” said that the expected company walkout is an example of solidarity with those who oppose current immigration policies.
“This is what solidarity looks like ― a reminder that everyday people have real power, as long as we’re brave enough to use it,” she tweeted.
OT:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/24/boris-johnson-prime-minister-tory-party-britain?CMP=share_btn_tw
Oh, God.
Eliza Shapiro
– Born in or about 1990 to a well-connected Jewish family
– Columbia University, Class of 2012
– “Grew up in New York City and attended public and private schools in Manhattan and Brooklyn”
Family background:
By a strange, totally-non-nepotistic series of coincidences, Eliza went to the same elite school she has all those connections at, and works at the NYT where — again crazy coincidence! — her mom has worked at for decades.
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Vivian Wang
– Presumably born in or about 1995, in the USA, to Chinese parents
– “Raised in Chicago”
– Yale Class of 2017 (BA in English, Creative Writing Concentration)
Vivian Wang on herself, her mother, and being a “Twinkie”:
“Then I got to college. Suddenly, I couldn’t count on white rice and stir-fried greens every day. If I wanted vegetables, my options were salad or salad.”
Ms. Wang tells a bald faced lie about vegetables. That’s my favorite part about progressives, especially women. Veracity means nothing if lying nails another anti-white talking point, however made up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=171FURqSIQc
Every. Single. Time.
Oh, wait--it is.
Personally I think salad is awesome, I eat salad for lunch every day. There's nothing like biting into cold, crisp, fresh lettuce, it's like eating nature's bounty in a bowl. There are so many dressings you could make, so many things you could put in it, same goes for sandwich -- two of the greatest ideas ever.
Ms. Wang needs to read a history book like The Old World in the New by E.A. Ross and gain an appreciation for how hard the pioneers had it when they first arrived, and what they had to endure to build this amazing country. Johnny come latelies who arrived since 1965 have no room to complain. NYTimes is purposely hiring these whiny Asian female SJW writers to whine and bitch about everything about America in order to drive a wedge between whites and Asians. Majority of Asians are not whiny like these dimwits. They are an embarrassment to all thinking Asians in the US.
How long is that school going to be in the headlines? You’d think there had been a school shooting there or something.
Coming soon to a New York Times headline:
Study: New York School Structural Inequality Inadequately Prepares Black Students for Test Prep
Study: Test Prep Tutors’ Implicit Bias a Major Impediment to Black Test Prep Success
A Plaintive Cry from New York Middle Schooler: “Why Doesn’t My Test Prep Tutor Look Like Me?”
Questions on Test Prep Practice Exams Said to be Culturally Biased: “What Does ‘Hiking Appalachian Trail’ Mean?”
Mayor DeBlasio Proposes Eliminating Objective Grading of Test Prep Practice Exams, Substitution of Holistic Evaluation.
Steve,
I am heartened to see that in this one instance Ron Lauder has used his ill-inherited shekels in support of a good cause as opposed to his usual largess. Here Jewish money in concert with North East Asian shock troops saved the day!
At one time NYC Jews were justly proud of “their” City Colleges. Since these went South with Open Enrollment, fond memories of still-functioning Specialized Schools are all that remain.
Until now, NE Asians have been very slow/reluctant to enter NYC’s political process. Perhaps this slumbering potential political giant may now be awakening!
You seem oddly enthusiastic about something that will be entirely detrimental.
What's ill inherited about Lauder's bucks? Or are you just lamenting that such an idiot is so rich?
The comments are overwhelmingly against De Blasio and they appear to be coming from white people and not just Asians:333 recommend310 recommend
etc. Maybe there was one comment favorable to DeBlasio's position but if so, I didn't find it before I got bored.
The good thing about NYC government is that it is so historically untrustworthy that anything of any importance (even if it would normally be a local decision anywhere else) is required by law to be decided by the State Legislature in Albany. So all the mayor can do is kvetch and beg but he is powerless to actually put his idiotic plan into place. Recently, the NY State legislature moved left (Dems control both houses and the governor's office) but not THAT far left.
Trump inspires the same feelings in his fellow downstaters that FDR did in his fellow upstaters.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/12/28/multimedia/author-eliza-shapiro/author-eliza-shapiro-thumbLarge.png
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/06/14/multimedia/author-vivian-wang/author-vivian-wang-thumbLarge-v2.png
Eliza Shapiro
- Born in or about 1990 to a well-connected Jewish family
- Columbia University, Class of 2012
- "Grew up in New York City and attended public and private schools in Manhattan and Brooklyn"
Family background:By a strange, totally-non-nepotistic series of coincidences, Eliza went to the same elite school she has all those connections at, and works at the NYT where -- again crazy coincidence! -- her mom has worked at for decades.
__________________
Vivian Wang
- Presumably born in or about 1995, in the USA, to Chinese parents
- "Raised in Chicago"
- Yale Class of 2017 (BA in English, Creative Writing Concentration)
Vivian Wang on herself, her mother, and being a "Twinkie":
Oh, God indeed. Shapiro and Wang. That’s the future right there.
“Then I got to college. Suddenly, I couldn’t count on white rice and stir-fried greens every day. If I wanted vegetables, my options were salad or salad.”
Ms. Wang tells a bald faced lie about vegetables. That’s my favorite part about progressives, especially women. Veracity means nothing if lying nails another anti-white talking point, however made up.
“Until now, NE Asians have been very slow/reluctant to enter NYC’s political process. Perhaps this slumbering potential political giant may now be awakening!”
You seem oddly enthusiastic about something that will be entirely detrimental.
In this case an awakening North East Asian political class will ensure a more level playing field. A level playing field is certainly better than the non-level one that currently prevails in NYC. This betterment holds both for my race and ethnicity!
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/12/28/multimedia/author-eliza-shapiro/author-eliza-shapiro-thumbLarge.png
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/06/14/multimedia/author-vivian-wang/author-vivian-wang-thumbLarge-v2.png
Eliza Shapiro
- Born in or about 1990 to a well-connected Jewish family
- Columbia University, Class of 2012
- "Grew up in New York City and attended public and private schools in Manhattan and Brooklyn"
Family background:By a strange, totally-non-nepotistic series of coincidences, Eliza went to the same elite school she has all those connections at, and works at the NYT where -- again crazy coincidence! -- her mom has worked at for decades.
__________________
Vivian Wang
- Presumably born in or about 1995, in the USA, to Chinese parents
- "Raised in Chicago"
- Yale Class of 2017 (BA in English, Creative Writing Concentration)
Vivian Wang on herself, her mother, and being a "Twinkie":
And everyone wonders why intermarriage rates are so high.
Lots of Asian and hot White gentile women marrying Jewish men these days.
The Goddess of the Alt Right has the worst vocal fry I’ve heard in a long while. She has does a strange mid-sentence uptalk I haven’t heard before.
What I notice about Omar is that she speaks like a somewhat streetwise Chicana in her dialect. I would have expected a more black sound.
Here is a link to the 1971 NY Times story that discusses the bill that was introduced, passed, and eventually signed by Governor Rockefeller mandating that the only criteria for admission to the 4 selective schools would be the competitive entrance exam. Asians weren’t even a blip on the radar screen back then, but another very powerful, middle class constituency was worried that racial quotas would soon be introduced (they were right, racial quotas would have been introduced) mandating proportional representation of blacks and Puerto Ricans (other latin groups, at that point barely registered). Who zooms whom. It’s beyond a paywall so I will include the text of the article.
https://www.nytimes.com/1971/05/20/archives/assembly-votes-high-school-curb-limits-city-boards-power-to-ease.html?searchResultPosition=33
LBANY, May 19—New York City Democrats split into emotionally charged camps to day as the Assembly passed a bill designed to limit the Board of Education’s power to alter the city’s four specialized high schools.
The measure passed, 107 to 35, and was sent to the Senate after minority‐group members led the opposition and accused white colleagues of seeking an exclusionary racial quota at the schools.
The schools, all highly re garded nationally, are the Bronx High School of Science, Brooklyn Technical High School, Stuyvesant High School and La Guardia High School of Music and the Arts.
Shouted accusations of hypo critical liberalism, racial preju dice and unfair intrusion by upstaters in city affairs echoed on the Democratic side during a three‐hour debate as mem bers repeatedly jumped to their feet and interrupted one an other.
The bill mandates the pres ent competitive examinations as the basic admission proced ure for the schools. It also limits the number of gifted dis advantaged students admitted through the separate Discovery program to a totel no greater then 14 per cent of the other students admitted through test ing.
Continue reading the main story
Scribner’s Study
Sponsored by a white cross section of Democrats, Republi cans, Conservatives and Liber als, the bill was drawn to de fend against a special study initiated by the city’s, school Chancellor, Dr. Harvey B. Scribner, to look into charges that the four schools were “cul turally biased” against blacks and Puerto Ricans.
Proponents of the measure contended that the board and the Chancellor would destroy the schools’ high standards. Op ponents countered, that it was an attempt by whites to guard against increased numbers of blacks and Puerto Ricans in the four schools,
After the debate one black member, Vander L. Beatty, Democrat‐Liberal of Brooklyn, accused the Assembly minority leader, Stanley. Steingut of Brooklyn, of “joining the racist conservatives” as a co‐sponsor of the measure. Mr. Steingut was absent during much of the debate. Other Democrats ex pressed resentment at such charges.
The scope of the division was indicated by the fact that Mr. Steingut was on one side of the issue while his close col league, Albert H. Blumenthal, Manhattan Democrat‐Liberal, spoke against the bill on the ground that the Legislature should leave such affairs to local school officials. Mr. Blumenthal is the deputy minority leader in the Assem bly.
Another Manhattan Demo crat‐Liberal, G. Oliver Koppel, gesturing toward his black and Puerto Rican, colleagues, said, “I am offended and deeply hurt at the charges.”
The 14 per cent limit, he said, was not in the original bill and was put there only at his insistence as an inclusion ary protection for minority group students.
“The bill as originally drafted would have eliminated these children,” Mr. Koppel declared, emphasizing that his goal in supporting the bill was only to “maintain an educationally sound institution.”
Board Accused of Lie
The floor leader for the bill, Burton G. Hecht, Democrat‐ Liberal of the Bronx, confirmed later in an interview that the limit on students from the Dis covery program was an addi tion to the original measure.
On the Assembly floor he accused the Board of Education of “the big lie” technique in fighting the bill, asserting that board had admitted an error in originally contending that the schools already had more than the 14 per cent figure.
Last fall the four schools’ new admissions totaled 3,484 competition winners plus 352 Discovery students who equaled slightly more than 10 per cent of the first group, according to the board’s corrected figures.
“Where are all the liberals who are always protecting blacks and Puerto Ricans?” askel Assemblyman Louis Nine, Bronx Democrat. “I don’t see them today.”
Seymour Posner, Bronx Democrat‐Liberal, angrily in‐ insisted that the bill protected “the opportunity for a bright kid, even if he’s not rich, to go to an exceptional high school.”
‘Touches the Nerve’
One Democrat likened the scene to an “encounter session” that “touches the nerve or ur ban life, all of the concerns, all of the polarizations.”
The opposition included 31 of the Assembly’s 71 Democrats and four of the 79 Republicans and Conservatives.
After the vote most of the members left, and debate on other controversial bills was postponed.
To a nearly empty house, Assemblyman Arthur O. Eve, Buffalo Democrat, arose to commemorate the birth of the late Malcolm X, the slain black nationalist. “I thought by com ing here I would make some minimal change,” Mr. Eve said. When he sat down his cheeks were wet with tears.
One of the final speakers in the debate on the four high schools was Harvey L. Strel zin, a Brooklyn Democrat who was a co‐sponsor of the meas ure but then changed his mind. “I do not think the bill is dis criminatory,” he said. “Never theless, many of my colleagues do, and so I respect their wishes and vote in the nega tive.”
Encourage Drag Queens to demand Story Hour in Muslim dominated Elementary and Middle Schools.
Hilarity ensues!
The commies back in the day dubbed this sort of thing “heightening the contradictions.”
Originally, there were 4 schools--some years ago, 4 more were added. Why not add another 4?
Wouldn’t work. Relatively speaking, the number of Asians in NYC who are able to outscore blacks and Hispanics is infinite so no matter how many seats you added, they would all get filled by Asians. That’s what happened in the new schools that they added.
Some of the admission by test schools used to have a lot of blacks back when the outer boroughs were declining and whites were fleeing, but they have since been replaced by Asians.
Maybe now she’ll marry her sister.
Ron Lauder is enormously proud of being a Bronx Science graduate. He has other credentials such as a degree from Wharton, an ambassadorship, and deputy assistant Secretary of defense position. Understandably though, people assume most of those were bought by his very rich family. The only one that could not have been bought, was his Bronx Science high school diploma.
My estimation of Ron Lauder immensely improved once I learned he graduated Bronx High School of Science. Nevertheless, it still remains remarkedly low!
Lots of Subcon men marrying Jewish females these days.
Lots of Asian and hot White gentile women marrying Jewish men these days.
Nah. In NYC I only see Jewish males consorting with North East Asian females.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/12/28/multimedia/author-eliza-shapiro/author-eliza-shapiro-thumbLarge.png
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/06/14/multimedia/author-vivian-wang/author-vivian-wang-thumbLarge-v2.png
Eliza Shapiro
- Born in or about 1990 to a well-connected Jewish family
- Columbia University, Class of 2012
- "Grew up in New York City and attended public and private schools in Manhattan and Brooklyn"
Family background:By a strange, totally-non-nepotistic series of coincidences, Eliza went to the same elite school she has all those connections at, and works at the NYT where -- again crazy coincidence! -- her mom has worked at for decades.
__________________
Vivian Wang
- Presumably born in or about 1995, in the USA, to Chinese parents
- "Raised in Chicago"
- Yale Class of 2017 (BA in English, Creative Writing Concentration)
Vivian Wang on herself, her mother, and being a "Twinkie":
“I think this place is restricted, Wang, so don’t tell ’em you’re Jewish. OK, fine.”
Every. Single. Time.
“Twinkie”? Whatever happened to “banana”?
Okay, I see that Twinkie was some sort of art installation about microaggresssions in 2012:
https://alisonho.net/art/yellow-outside-white-inside/
Why is it wrong to ask where someone, or their family, is from? Why is that malicious? What exactly is the grievance here? Why do they hate ordinary people so much? What do they expect of other human beings, of life? Perfect psychological and social comfort which will never end?
They’re on the wrong planet. Having a human nature is rigorous, so is moving around in human society.
https://twitter.com/Ilhan/status/1141826315240255488
Oh, that’s nothing. Kat Rosenfield is worse, but even she is far from the worst I’ve heard recently, just one whose name I remember.
What I notice about Omar is that she speaks like a somewhat streetwise Chicana in her dialect. I would have expected a more black sound.
Ha! I almost added that too. Like Rosie Perez in her day.
I think she’s got things a bit turned around. What she’s trying her darndest to avoid saying is, if “specialized schools will bring down their standards” then “more of us [blacks] are accepted into the schools.”
Some of the admission by test schools used to have a lot of blacks back when the outer boroughs were declining and whites were fleeing, but they have since been replaced by Asians.
End mass immigration.
Invade/Invite dichotomy.
Yes, you’re right and don’t be lazy by not giving a link. Steve Sailer just hit prime time with invade the world invite the world.
NYC could decide to kick out the 70,000 undocumented children in their K-12 schools; that might free up enough slots and cut down on arguments.
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/data/unauthorized-immigrant-population/state/NY
https://twitter.com/Ilhan/status/1141826315240255488
I quite agree with her that solitary confinement is horrific, though not nearly as horrific as allowing the most hardened inmates to prey upon the weakest with impunity.
Why can’t the sadists and predators be kept separate from the people who just want to keep their heads down and do their time?
OT: From the Atlantic – a new Marshmallow test:
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/why-rich-kids-are-so-good-at-the-marshmallow-test?utm_source=pocket-newtab
Marshmallows are gross anyway. If they really wanted to test kids' patience, they should have tempted them with chocolate kisses or M&Ms.
Not an equal opportunity noose, then?
We need Gorgon Stare (aka Wide-Angle Motion Imagery - WAMI) to detect noose laying, wherever and whenever it may occur.
Was Jussie Smollet seen in the neighborhood enjoying a foot-long and then later at the local sub shop for a snack?
https://nypost.com/2019/06/24/more-innocent-bystanders-shot-in-the-bronx/
Macroaggression
Some commenter on Unz.com just brought up the 11-year-old CoderBunnyz girl who’s grossing $600,000 with her board game. (I can’t find the comment, or the retorts to it.)
She doesn’t need Stuyvesant; Stuyvesant needs her. I couldn’t help but notice her name: Samaira Mehta.
There’s something mehtaphysical about this clan.
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https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/06/14/multimedia/author-vivian-wang/author-vivian-wang-thumbLarge-v2.png
Eliza Shapiro
- Born in or about 1990 to a well-connected Jewish family
- Columbia University, Class of 2012
- "Grew up in New York City and attended public and private schools in Manhattan and Brooklyn"
Family background:By a strange, totally-non-nepotistic series of coincidences, Eliza went to the same elite school she has all those connections at, and works at the NYT where -- again crazy coincidence! -- her mom has worked at for decades.
__________________
Vivian Wang
- Presumably born in or about 1995, in the USA, to Chinese parents
- "Raised in Chicago"
- Yale Class of 2017 (BA in English, Creative Writing Concentration)
Vivian Wang on herself, her mother, and being a "Twinkie":
“Eliza’s dad Michael Shapiro teaches at the J-school [since 1992] [i.e., the School of Journalism],…”
J-school. I bet.
“By a strange, totally-non-nepotistic series of coincidences, Eliza went to the same elite school she has all those connections at, and works at the NYT where — again crazy coincidence! — her mom has worked at for decades.”
Family connections – that’s how you know it’s a meritocracy.
Allows the cycle of violence to perpetuate itself— against the walls, the bars, and oneself. That’s the whole point.
Some of the admission by test schools used to have a lot of blacks back when the outer boroughs were declining and whites were fleeing, but they have since been replaced by Asians.
I disagree. Evidence suggests that the higher black and Hispanic numbers in the past were the result of affirmative action on the QT. But eventually, the growing Chinese population made this covert policy untenable.
Arguably the two most important states in the US are New York State and California. These two states are a microcosm of elite, post-white American discourse. It is largely Asian-dominated with even Jews playing an increasingly secondary role (more as an old guard which is slowly fading vs the rapidly surging and much younger Asian elite).
While I do find these conflicts amusing, I would also say that their relevance to the rest of the country is miniscule. New York City and LA/SF are not going to play out the same way as in the rest of the country. There won’t be the same lobbying muscle deployed to prevent stuff like this in white Midwestern states or in flyover country in general. Plus white people are much more deracinated anyway.
So these large cities, which contain a substantial fraction of the US elite, will likely be more meriocratic precisely because it helps the offspring of said elite while the rest of the US gets the shaft. And these Asian vs NAM conflicts are very localised and not replicable outside of a subset of elite cities. Outside of them, they all team up against white America.
https://twitter.com/Ilhan/status/1141826315240255488
Somali valley grrl
I am heartened to see that in this one instance Ron Lauder has used his ill-inherited shekels in support of a good cause as opposed to his usual largess.
What’s ill inherited about Lauder’s bucks? Or are you just lamenting that such an idiot is so rich?
Yes, I am (justifiably) lamenting that such an idiot (Ron Lauder) is so rich!
Eliminating the exam is not the only way to achieve proportional enrollment. Quotas would do it, assuming that they are not illegal. If you want 12 percent of the school to be black, just admit the top black exam takers until you meet the quota. Same with Hispanic. Then fill the rest of the slots with the top remaining test takers.
You’d eventually hear, Should whites have a quota? Maybe even, Should gentile whites have a quota? But for the time being quotas would work. I think that what the left wants is a way to get proportionality that does not stigmatize black students as affirmative action admittees. “They got in based on a holistic assessment. Their personalities are so much better than Asian personalities. Personality is so important in STEM, where teamwork is critical. We cannot put this country’s future in the hands of violin-playing Asians with defective personalities.”
This entire episode, so quickly drained of all scope and interest, had a hefty Community behind it. Jews can’t afford to let the pipsqueaks upset their own slice of upscale prep. Everyone who read this story noticed the absence, too.
The extremely highly rated Thomas Jefferson science high school in northern Virginia has a “holistic” admissions policy similar to what’s been suggested for the NYC selective schools, using grades and essays in addition to an admissions exam. It’s also three-quarters Asian.
-70s Soopie (yep...I rode the bus...did local high school though...TJ not established as science school yet)
P.s. I went to the "number two" HS (after Langley of course) and TJ didn't open until my senior year. If you think I was transferring then? No way. We already had all them thar AP classes, teachers that were as smart as college profs but liked hanging out with teenagers, etc.
Ms. Mary Alice Miller’s angle is hard to figure. On one hand, she as an alumna has seemingly nothing to gain from the adulteration of the Stuyvesant pedigree. But I guess currying favor with her racial-political tribe could be an overpowering motivation. However, if her actual occupation is a race/diversity shakedown manager of some kind, that’d be the simplest explanation
The numbers of white students have also plummeted, and most of the whites at Stuyvesant are children of immigrants from Eastern Europe (Russia included). How much representation do Irish and Italian New Yorkers, who have been in NYC for many generations, have in these elite high schools? How about Filipinos and Vietnamese?
I gotcher racial coding right here, nà ge!
What I notice about Omar is that she speaks like a somewhat streetwise Chicana in her dialect. I would have expected a more black sound.
“she speaks like a somewhat streetwise Chicana in her dialect”
Ha! I almost added that too. Like Rosie Perez in her day.
Encourage Drag Queens to demand Story Hour in Muslim dominated Elementary and Middle Schools.
Hilarity ensues!
Or Jewish day schools.
Still funny to you?
You seem oddly enthusiastic about something that will be entirely detrimental.
peterike:
In this case an awakening North East Asian political class will ensure a more level playing field. A level playing field is certainly better than the non-level one that currently prevails in NYC. This betterment holds both for my race and ethnicity!
LOL. Shots. Fired.
What's ill inherited about Lauder's bucks? Or are you just lamenting that such an idiot is so rich?
kaganovitch:
Yes, I am (justifiably) lamenting that such an idiot (Ron Lauder) is so rich!
Lots of Asian and hot White gentile women marrying Jewish men these days.
Anon[290]:
Nah. In NYC I only see Jewish males consorting with North East Asian females.
Lots of Jewish guys with good looking blonde Shikshas.
White people will allow themselves to be replaced, until they get a major reality check.
They will get that reality check after they are replaced and are told impolitely to sit at the back of the bus.
The people on this blog are aware of what is coming because we are paying attention to the early stages of this.
PV van der Byl:
My estimation of Ron Lauder immensely improved once I learned he graduated Bronx High School of Science. Nevertheless, it still remains remarkedly low!
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Eliza Shapiro
- Born in or about 1990 to a well-connected Jewish family
- Columbia University, Class of 2012
- "Grew up in New York City and attended public and private schools in Manhattan and Brooklyn"
Family background:By a strange, totally-non-nepotistic series of coincidences, Eliza went to the same elite school she has all those connections at, and works at the NYT where -- again crazy coincidence! -- her mom has worked at for decades.
__________________
Vivian Wang
- Presumably born in or about 1995, in the USA, to Chinese parents
- "Raised in Chicago"
- Yale Class of 2017 (BA in English, Creative Writing Concentration)
Vivian Wang on herself, her mother, and being a "Twinkie":
Good research/exposé. Thanks for taking the time.
“Then I got to college. Suddenly, I couldn’t count on white rice and stir-fried greens every day. If I wanted vegetables, my options were salad or salad.”
Ms. Wang tells a bald faced lie about vegetables. That’s my favorite part about progressives, especially women. Veracity means nothing if lying nails another anti-white talking point, however made up.
So this brat was given the privilege of going to Yale and she complains about salads? She should have gone to San Francisco State; she’d have had fried rice and bok Choi out the ying yang.
What do you mean?
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https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/06/14/multimedia/author-vivian-wang/author-vivian-wang-thumbLarge-v2.png
Eliza Shapiro
- Born in or about 1990 to a well-connected Jewish family
- Columbia University, Class of 2012
- "Grew up in New York City and attended public and private schools in Manhattan and Brooklyn"
Family background:By a strange, totally-non-nepotistic series of coincidences, Eliza went to the same elite school she has all those connections at, and works at the NYT where -- again crazy coincidence! -- her mom has worked at for decades.
__________________
Vivian Wang
- Presumably born in or about 1995, in the USA, to Chinese parents
- "Raised in Chicago"
- Yale Class of 2017 (BA in English, Creative Writing Concentration)
Vivian Wang on herself, her mother, and being a "Twinkie":
Maybe intelligence runs in the family. How quickly people on this board turn blank slatists, and forget about the influence of DNA, when it suits them.
In the name of meritocracy, Jews give things to other Jews.
In the name of meritocracy, European whites give things away to Others from far away.
Both have problems.
Her intelligence is surprisingly focused on "NYT-required skills". (What would Occam say about this simple turn of phrase?) But IQ is much broader. That she lacks, which is normal for people whose parents are their cousin.
Yes, I am (justifiably) lamenting that such an idiot (Ron Lauder) is so rich!
Can’t argue with that.
“If in doubt – blame whitey”.
Ha! I almost added that too. Like Rosie Perez in her day.
She doesn’t have Rosie’s fulsome talents though.
You'd eventually hear, Should whites have a quota? Maybe even, Should gentile whites have a quota? But for the time being quotas would work. I think that what the left wants is a way to get proportionality that does not stigmatize black students as affirmative action admittees. "They got in based on a holistic assessment. Their personalities are so much better than Asian personalities. Personality is so important in STEM, where teamwork is critical. We cannot put this country's future in the hands of violin-playing Asians with defective personalities."
That’s how it is done with Chicago’s most prestigious high school. Different cutoffs for different races. An Asian woman in Chicago was justifiably proud when she told me her daughter attended that school.
Study: New York School Structural Inequality Inadequately Prepares Black Students for Test Prep
Study: Test Prep Tutors' Implicit Bias a Major Impediment to Black Test Prep Success
A Plaintive Cry from New York Middle Schooler: "Why Doesn't My Test Prep Tutor Look Like Me?"
Questions on Test Prep Practice Exams Said to be Culturally Biased: "What Does 'Hiking Appalachian Trail' Mean?"
Mayor DeBlasio Proposes Eliminating Objective Grading of Test Prep Practice Exams, Substitution of Holistic Evaluation.
We need free test prep prep.
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https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/06/14/multimedia/author-vivian-wang/author-vivian-wang-thumbLarge-v2.png
Eliza Shapiro
- Born in or about 1990 to a well-connected Jewish family
- Columbia University, Class of 2012
- "Grew up in New York City and attended public and private schools in Manhattan and Brooklyn"
Family background:By a strange, totally-non-nepotistic series of coincidences, Eliza went to the same elite school she has all those connections at, and works at the NYT where -- again crazy coincidence! -- her mom has worked at for decades.
__________________
Vivian Wang
- Presumably born in or about 1995, in the USA, to Chinese parents
- "Raised in Chicago"
- Yale Class of 2017 (BA in English, Creative Writing Concentration)
Vivian Wang on herself, her mother, and being a "Twinkie":
Wonder if she’s ever attacked nepotism?
I notice the article doesn’t go into exact details about how the measure was defeated. That’s always the most interesting part.
The future is a massive diversity pride female lower basin, swinging at a street party to the sound of drums and canned music, forever.
Ah, another one for the Newspeak dictionary
Desegregate (transitive verb): Forcefully make a teaching organization admit students without an entrance exam in order to easily increase the “colored” fraction.
Hatred of FDR and Trump is for reasons that have little to do with “conservative” or “liberal”. FDR was hated for being a traitor to his class. Trump was always hated in NYC for being a poser, pretending to be part of an upper class that considers him a prole upstart from Queens and an embarrassment.
Vermont historian Frank Bryan says that FDR's plan for a mountain parkway bisecting the state south-to-north was shot down in town meetings. Diamonds weren't worn at town meeting.
Is she one of those Hidden Figures gals?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/26/birmingham-anderton-park-primary-muslim-protests-lgbt-teaching-rights
However the High Court has issued an injunction – you are now completely free to protest against tranny indoctrination classes, as long as you don’t do it anywhere near where those classes are taking place.
Bernard CHOW: “All the hard-working students, the students who are willing to give up BASKETBALL and stay home and study,”
my favorite line of the article (emphasis mine)
Wonder who he is thinking about – playing basketball (or smashing car windows or smoking dope or raping white women on rooftops) instead of studying…
Nah. In NYC I only see Jewish males consorting with North East Asian females.
Go to SoCal.
Lots of Jewish guys with good looking blonde Shikshas.
Not that many good looking blonde shikshas in NYC!
“Caste system in 5 4 3 2…”
These are I think Chinese, no caste system, other than the usual class and race one.
my favorite line of the article (emphasis mine)
Wonder who he is thinking about - playing basketball (or smashing car windows or smoking dope or raping white women on rooftops) instead of studying...
““All the hard-working students, the students who are willing to give up BASKETBALL and stay home and study,””
The NYT cut Mr. Chow’s next sentence: “Make grand parent no cry.”
The public schools in NY is 40% black, 27% Latino, 15% asian, 15% white and 3% other.
So the average IQ, given than the brighter go to private schools – even the white Kids must be around 95 – must be at most around 87.
So if the technical schools 6k from 30k candidates out of 150k are really the best – wich is not’obvious because the private schools have means to attract them by free tuition, the average selection is 1 25. That would mean that the threshold is at 112 IQ (if it was pure IQ).
For Stuyvesant, at 1 in 150, it would be a 125 threshold and a 130 average. I think the reality is lower.
So for white kids, it’s just the possibility of being with 75% boring asian kids who are barely gifted. Better than the ghetto but not a dream environement neither …
So the average IQ, given than the brighter go to private schools - even the white Kids must be around 95 - must be at most around 87.
So if the technical schools 6k from 30k candidates out of 150k are really the best - wich is not’obvious because the private schools have means to attract them by free tuition, the average selection is 1 25. That would mean that the threshold is at 112 IQ (if it was pure IQ).
For Stuyvesant, at 1 in 150, it would be a 125 threshold and a 130 average. I think the reality is lower.
So for white kids, it’s just the possibility of being with 75% boring asian kids who are barely gifted. Better than the ghetto but not a dream environement neither ...
even the white Kids must be around 95
Nah. Maybe on Staten Island. The white kids whose parents maneuver them into desirable public schools in Manhattan and Brooklyn, even Queens, tend to be well above average.
That’s good to know that there are people enjoying good public services just because of location.
Correcting for white kids IQ at asian level 105 (there are still firemen, nurses kids and shop keepers kids I suppose) because it’s a big city that attracts talent, it would put the average public school kid around 89, and the threshold to Stuyvesant at 127.
For a white kid under 145, it’s crazy to go to this school. And for a black above 130, it doesn’t make any sense either. He could get admitted to Regis or another elite private school.
They will get that reality check after they are replaced and are told impolitely to sit at the back of the bus.
The people on this blog are aware of what is coming because we are paying attention to the early stages of this.
FWIW, I would respectfully submit that the ‘early stages’ were fifty years ago.
“bias crime”.
Not an equal opportunity noose, then?
We need Gorgon Stare (aka Wide-Angle Motion Imagery – WAMI) to detect noose laying, wherever and whenever it may occur.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/26/birmingham-anderton-park-primary-muslim-protests-lgbt-teaching-rights
This is very clever:
It kind of jujitsu’s the LGBT argument.
The Guardian photo shows anodyne protest signs like “Our voice must be heard,” and “Let kids be kids.” A quick Google Images search shows that most of the protest signs are things like “Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve” and ” Say No to sexualisation of children.”
White Christians are the designated whipping boys for black/brown misbehavior.
Nope, “All Warfare Is Based Upon Deception…”
Doesn’t Count
There are no *principled* reasons for not naming Stuyvesant High School “Unit 731.”
Also see: Bedford-Stuy, Bedford Hordeolum, paging Dr. Pimple Popper
Lots of Jewish guys with good looking blonde Shikshas.
Anon[638]:
Not that many good looking blonde shikshas in NYC!
Racially-coded anti-white crimewave in Atlanta: https://www.atlantamagazine.com/dining-news/whats-chicken-bones-atlanta/
The comments are overwhelmingly against De Blasio and they appear to be coming from white people and not just Asians:333 recommend310 recommend
etc. Maybe there was one comment favorable to DeBlasio's position but if so, I didn't find it before I got bored.
The good thing about NYC government is that it is so historically untrustworthy that anything of any importance (even if it would normally be a local decision anywhere else) is required by law to be decided by the State Legislature in Albany. So all the mayor can do is kvetch and beg but he is powerless to actually put his idiotic plan into place. Recently, the NY State legislature moved left (Dems control both houses and the governor's office) but not THAT far left.
The fact that that Asians are doing better on these exams than whites belies the whole argument that the test is “racist,”
Not really, since it could certainly in theory be racist in favor of Asians. For some reason this option is never discussed.
Many Whites stay out of the public school system.
What’s up with Steve’s interest in this high school anyway? Affirmative Action rules America. A tiny victory in a few NYC schools won’t help.
I predict that the next step is an affirmation action court case for the elite schools. The judges will rule in favor of affirmative action. And the black&brown school administration will joyfully reject every White applicant.
That’s India, not China.
China has for 2000 years had a remarkably meritocratic system, hardcore economic Darwinism, though of course mediated by nepotism.
Any bright young boy could in theory, and quite often in practice, rise to the very highest positions below that of Emperor.
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Eliza Shapiro
- Born in or about 1990 to a well-connected Jewish family
- Columbia University, Class of 2012
- "Grew up in New York City and attended public and private schools in Manhattan and Brooklyn"
Family background:By a strange, totally-non-nepotistic series of coincidences, Eliza went to the same elite school she has all those connections at, and works at the NYT where -- again crazy coincidence! -- her mom has worked at for decades.
__________________
Vivian Wang
- Presumably born in or about 1995, in the USA, to Chinese parents
- "Raised in Chicago"
- Yale Class of 2017 (BA in English, Creative Writing Concentration)
Vivian Wang on herself, her mother, and being a "Twinkie":
Really? This is what she complains about? I am sure Asian food in NYC, even in college cafeterias is superior to what you would get elsewhere in the US.
I doubt Asians stand out too much in Ivy league schools. Blacks and Hispanics are probably the “hip” ethnics.
So the average IQ, given than the brighter go to private schools - even the white Kids must be around 95 - must be at most around 87.
So if the technical schools 6k from 30k candidates out of 150k are really the best - wich is not’obvious because the private schools have means to attract them by free tuition, the average selection is 1 25. That would mean that the threshold is at 112 IQ (if it was pure IQ).
For Stuyvesant, at 1 in 150, it would be a 125 threshold and a 130 average. I think the reality is lower.
So for white kids, it’s just the possibility of being with 75% boring asian kids who are barely gifted. Better than the ghetto but not a dream environement neither ...
If this is truly a “solution”, then IQ is barely relevant, other than how much it helps tin cramming a bunch of pertinent-until-after-the-test information into one’s head and hold it there until test time (this is a “racial coded” question that will put many Asians and their parents in high dudgeon).
Of course, how much is “free universal test preparation” really going to help the large swath of students who can’t even puzzle out the comics page? What can it achieve that hundreds of other programs and billions of other misspent dollars have utterly failed to?
I remember hearing something about the test prep didn't work as planned because (cue excuse) the parents of non Asian minorities were somehow not pursuing it, or discarded the notification, or needed the kids to babysit during the prep time because of working 5 jobs or standing in line at the welfare office, or didn't see the benefit, or pretty much knew their kid was a lost cause, or something. Parent blaming!
I think that DeBlasio was sure that test prep was the solution, so when it crapped out he blew a gasket and decided on this extreme idea of getting rid of tests altogether.
80 percent of the benefit of test prep can be had by reading the instructions in the application booklet and doing the sample questions. Another 15 percent can be had by doing a single practice test. I pity the Asian kids who have to spend so much time in test prep classes.
From my experience in California, Asians would prefer not having to go to school with blacks and with Mexicans, whom they consider lazy. And tending to be small, Asians are vulnerable to bullying and violence.
“Mai Lin, would you like to go to school with lower IQ and generally more physically aggressive Black and Brown children?”
Mai Lin: “I would prefer not to.”
Mai Lin’s Mother: (“aahhhh, now I must find another school for Mai Lin! Aaaaah, weak stupid round-eyes - can’t you control your own countries?!)
Nice try, but this is not about blank slate-ism.
In the name of meritocracy, Jews give things to other Jews.
In the name of meritocracy, European whites give things away to Others from far away.
Both have problems.
I always read Melville’s “Bartleby” as Asian. Parrying blows obliquely, not directly.
“Mai Lin, would you like to go to school with lower IQ and generally more physically aggressive Black and Brown children?”
Mai Lin: “I would prefer not to.”
Mai Lin’s Mother: (“aahhhh, now I must find another school for Mai Lin! Aaaaah, weak stupid round-eyes – can’t you control your own countries?!)
A comb-through of her articles, I am guessing, would (likely?) reveal some buried-in-the-text swipes at supposed White quasi-nepotism, in the form of the White Privilege conspiracy theory. (Nevermind the data.)
Not going to help of course. The thing is , Lauder knows it’s not going to help. Its just a way of leveraging the toxicity of IQ differences in favor of his preferred outcome. How are the test opponents going to respond? Prep is useless when the IQ gap is so large? Pace Dan Hayes, Lauder may be an idiot(he is), but he’s not stupid.
“Then I got to college. Suddenly, I couldn’t count on white rice and stir-fried greens every day. If I wanted vegetables, my options were salad or salad.”
Ms. Wang tells a bald faced lie about vegetables. That’s my favorite part about progressives, especially women. Veracity means nothing if lying nails another anti-white talking point, however made up.
People generally do not lie arbitrarily.
What I mean is, there’s no doubt Miss Vivian Wang is smart, smart enough to know what to say to get ahead. That “salad” dog-whistle kind of thing works. The lie (if it is one; am inclined to agree w/your call) carries with it a somewhat-subtle anti-White undercurrent.
It’s also possible (likely) that she is echoing what she has often heard her ethnic kin say (that is, not ‘lying’ in the sense of making something up wildly; call it a quasi-experience by osmosis), and found it a useful rhetorical tool lying around for that essay.
The comments are overwhelmingly against De Blasio and they appear to be coming from white people and not just Asians:333 recommend310 recommend
etc. Maybe there was one comment favorable to DeBlasio's position but if so, I didn't find it before I got bored.
The good thing about NYC government is that it is so historically untrustworthy that anything of any importance (even if it would normally be a local decision anywhere else) is required by law to be decided by the State Legislature in Albany. So all the mayor can do is kvetch and beg but he is powerless to actually put his idiotic plan into place. Recently, the NY State legislature moved left (Dems control both houses and the governor's office) but not THAT far left.
Yes, occasionally the normies fail to shuffle leftwards as quickly as their betters demand. Just give it a few years — this guy and his plan will be held up as a paragon of “conservative thought.”
On the one hand this dust-up is good fun because it makes the blank slaters and Black apologists so upset.
On the other hand, I have no more desire to be ruled by an Asian foreign elite than any other foreign elite.
Who is this guy really? “Give up Basketball?” What a racist statement. Chow sounds like the Grand Klagon of Indiana.
If lousy basketball skills can get them into Ivy League, why woulnd't lousy basketball skills get them into a good high school?
Yeah, I know, it's painful to see a trick imagined for useless blonde and orange people, suddenly becoming useful for black and brown. Mongrelians are a unique nation, the only people whose plebs are extremely sensitive to the well-being of their patricians. I am sorry for your imagined loss.
Lots of Jewish guys with good looking blonde Shikshas.
FIFY
She doesn't need Stuyvesant; Stuyvesant needs her. I couldn't help but notice her name: Samaira Mehta.
There's something mehtaphysical about this clan.
Reminds me of a Jewess who recently graduated MIT. Their PR couldn’t stop boasting that she built an aircraft when she was 10. Or was is it a submarine, when she was 8?
There are truly smart young people, like Lawrence Bragg, but even they didn’t have the money to build an airplane when they were 10. There a lot of stuff to memorize in order get things done properly, stuff that is outside the child’s interests and abilities, no matter how broad they are. Even a child prodigy would need to take some time to absorb all that.
To believe CoderBunnyz is makes that money because Samira is a genius is to assume her marketing budget, her legal fees, her accountant fees, her business plan which she showed to investors came from God and her yuge a-brain. It’s more logical that it’s all about her parents, some sociopaths as annoying as those that send their toddlers to “competitive” sports or child beauty queen contests.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/26/birmingham-anderton-park-primary-muslim-protests-lgbt-teaching-rights
I dunno but that is a great set of Problem Glasses on Ms. Sarah Hewitt-Clarkson.
There is, or was, a free test prep program for New York students. I believe it was a DeBlasio initiative. The results never seemed to be reported. You’d think researchers would be given access to the data.
I remember hearing something about the test prep didn’t work as planned because (cue excuse) the parents of non Asian minorities were somehow not pursuing it, or discarded the notification, or needed the kids to babysit during the prep time because of working 5 jobs or standing in line at the welfare office, or didn’t see the benefit, or pretty much knew their kid was a lost cause, or something. Parent blaming!
I think that DeBlasio was sure that test prep was the solution, so when it crapped out he blew a gasket and decided on this extreme idea of getting rid of tests altogether.
80 percent of the benefit of test prep can be had by reading the instructions in the application booklet and doing the sample questions. Another 15 percent can be had by doing a single practice test. I pity the Asian kids who have to spend so much time in test prep classes.
If she is so intelligent, why didn’t she go to Caltech? Why doesn’t she work for The Economist?
Her intelligence is surprisingly focused on “NYT-required skills”. (What would Occam say about this simple turn of phrase?) But IQ is much broader. That she lacks, which is normal for people whose parents are their cousin.
Asians are good at school, but bad at work.
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-lee-asian-american-attainment-gap-20190221-story.html
So the average IQ, given than the brighter go to private schools - even the white Kids must be around 95 - must be at most around 87.
So if the technical schools 6k from 30k candidates out of 150k are really the best - wich is not’obvious because the private schools have means to attract them by free tuition, the average selection is 1 25. That would mean that the threshold is at 112 IQ (if it was pure IQ).
For Stuyvesant, at 1 in 150, it would be a 125 threshold and a 130 average. I think the reality is lower.
So for white kids, it’s just the possibility of being with 75% boring asian kids who are barely gifted. Better than the ghetto but not a dream environement neither ...
“given than the brighter go to private schools ” This is just hilarious, stop it, you’re killing me.
In NY, Regis, Dalton, Horace Mann, Collegiate, Bradley etc .... schools have higher average SAT than Stuyvesant (already named 5 in NY !).
And the environnement has nothing to do with Stuyvesant. It’s like comparing a British club and a KFC or a greasy asian in a highway ....
Bright whites should (and even more Nams) leverage their admission to go elsewhere if they can. Only asian are stuck to it mostly. That’s a case where bright white can have a minority advantage I guess.
TBH, Mongrelia is a country where top universities admit 10% of their students on their sports skills, when proven at county and state-level competitions, against other equally impotent teenagers. Most of the other 90% must also list their mediocre ability to run, swim, or climb a tree, in addition to playing the oboe and volunteering at a place where they were not needed.
If lousy basketball skills can get them into Ivy League, why woulnd’t lousy basketball skills get them into a good high school?
Yeah, I know, it’s painful to see a trick imagined for useless blonde and orange people, suddenly becoming useful for black and brown. Mongrelians are a unique nation, the only people whose plebs are extremely sensitive to the well-being of their patricians. I am sorry for your imagined loss.
I wrote this in May of 2019 about Carranza, still stands up pretty good:
Richard Carranza, the overpaid government worker Mexican, don’t fit into any Sidney Lumet movie about New York City corruption and legalized crime.
Mexican Carranza was most likely brought in by Mayor Warren Willhelm because there are a few hundred thousand Mexicans in New York City and many might be in the country illegally, and Willhelm might have got the thought into his head that Carranza could act as an outsider broker to break some White and Jew and Asian skulls without much pushback. That was nice of Willhelm, if that’s what he thought.
Nick Nolte should reprise his Irish cop bit from a Sidney Lumet movie in the new movie about Mexican Carranza using strongarm tactics to extort educational action out of Whites and Asians and Jews in NY City.
The Asian take over of the elite is well underway, but different from the prior Jewish ascendency in that there were only so many Shtetl Jewish immigrants but there is a never ending supply of Asian immigrants. So while the Jewish members of the elite in the forth or fifth generation start slipping (as they are now) and falling down due to too much success, which reflects the normal rise and fall of successful groups, Asian families once dominating the elite in the near future can afford to slip and fall over several generations and still not be dislodged from the elite as there are countless new Asian families climbing the rungs of the ladder to elite status in the US. By 2050 we’ll be Brazil but with Asians on top a’ la Malaysia.
NYC’s non-Jewish white ethnic communities are greatly diminished today. For the most part, white children in the city are either: (1) from wealthy families in Manhattan or the better parts of Brooklyn, who attend private schools; (2) Orthodox or Hasidic, who attend religious schools; or (3) from Eastern European or Russian families, who comprise a significant percentage of the remaining white minority in the public schools and whose numbers, in any event, are rapidly declining.
Okay, I see that Twinkie was some sort of art installation about microaggresssions in 2012:https://alisonho.net/art/yellow-outside-white-inside/
https://alisonho.net/portfolio/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/2012-twinkies-02-922x600.jpg
“The idea of the other and otherness is readily apparent.”
Why is it wrong to ask where someone, or their family, is from? Why is that malicious? What exactly is the grievance here? Why do they hate ordinary people so much? What do they expect of other human beings, of life? Perfect psychological and social comfort which will never end?
They’re on the wrong planet. Having a human nature is rigorous, so is moving around in human society.
But that's a pet peeve, not a human rights violation. People need to chill out.
The chick in question had immigrant parents and apparently ate Chinese style food all her life (without apparently bothering to learn from mom how to make it, because she was, like, in her rebellious phase, "Yeah, I have a green streak in my hair, but don't other me by commenting on it!"). That is different ("otherish"?), so many people would like to hear about it, but if she doesn't want to talk about it, hey, no problem, nice weather, huh?
Still funny to you?
Even funnier. And much more apropo.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/26/birmingham-anderton-park-primary-muslim-protests-lgbt-teaching-rights
Good for the Muslim parents. The West has gone off the deep end with this LGBTQ freak show. Instead of “Let Kids Be Kids”, our schools’ motto is “Let Kids Be Freaks”.
Yep. Bushobama wrecked the country to the point of no return after their combined 16 years of maximum immigration with non-existent borders. Trump’s making it worse with his inaction. All he does is talk.
The official census of 2010 said whites were 223m or 72% of the population. I think the 2020 census will show no more than 60%, and in the coastal cities and the border states in the south, less than 40%, that’s, if it’s done truthfully.
Invade/Invite dichotomy.
One must conceal one’s power level in this day and age, no? Plausible deniability is easy for Tucker as so many iSteveisms have worked their way into the general consciousness.
Is J-school short for Journalism school or Jew school?
What’s the difference?
That was Jim Antle, editor of The American Conservative, being interviewed by Tucker. The American Conservative paid me for my article entitled “Invade the World, Invite the World” many years ago that they put on the cover with a caricature of John McCain, so I am more than happy for the current editor to use it. Everybody else can use it too, but the representative of an institution that sent me a nice check for it is especially entitled.
"You better stop, look around
Here it comes, here it comes, here it comes, here it comes"- Jagger RichardsTucker had more juice than John Bolton, the foreign policy professional. The hilarious thing is that Tucker gets instant respect from The Donald because he sees him on TV and likes what he has seen. It's all good!
IOW, in the immortal words of Dan Rather, “Fake, but accurate.”
Encourage Drag Queens to demand Story Hour in Muslim dominated Elementary and Middle Schools.
Hilarity ensues!
We could do with fewer Muslims and drag queens.
As the weaker party straight White men we should encourage our enemies to fight each other.
Solitary confinement is torture, destroying someone by depriving them of a fundamental human need, contact with other people. Execution would be more merciful. There are people who deserve it. There isn’t anyone who has the right to impose it.
Why can’t the sadists and predators be kept separate from the people who just want to keep their heads down and do their time?
The Guardian photo shows anodyne protest signs like "Our voice must be heard," and "Let kids be kids." A quick Google Images search shows that most of the protest signs are things like "Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" and " Say No to sexualisation of children."
I was following a discussion about this on a Brit lefty forum a while ago. At first posters were confused about how to respond, until one of them claimed (without evidence) that fundamentalist Christians had put the Muslims up to it. That did it. The remainder of the thread consisted of furious denunciations of Christian ‘bigotry’ (and Trump)
White Christians are the designated whipping boys for black/brown misbehavior.
There is a solution to this controversy that would kill several birds with one stone. To wit:
Adopt a policy explicitly banning the admission of White Gentile students to Stuyvesant, and reserving for Blacks and Latinx the same number of admission slots as were taken by Whites in the last year that they were still admitted. This would have several benefits.
1. The policy could be labeled as the 2019 Slavery Reparations in Education Act, thus getting the ball rolling on enacting slavery reparations.
2. White Jews would be unaffected and that would serve as reparations for the Holocaust.
3. No one in the coalition of the fringes would lose any admission slots so they’ll all be happy and hang together, or at least for a while longer.
4. When the courts tie themselves into rhetorical knots to uphold the constitutionality of the Act, that will serve as another spiking of the football in the faces of us bitter, clinging Deplorables. It reinforces the message that we need to stop squirming away from under the knife and accept our fate, because we’re just making it more unpleasant for all concerned without changing the inevitable outcome.
Why is it wrong to ask where someone, or their family, is from? Why is that malicious? What exactly is the grievance here? Why do they hate ordinary people so much? What do they expect of other human beings, of life? Perfect psychological and social comfort which will never end?
They’re on the wrong planet. Having a human nature is rigorous, so is moving around in human society.
I can see how it would be annoying. As an expat I get a lot of questions that the person asking doesn’t realize have been asked of me hundreds of times. Or there is the case where someone has a name that invites the same comments or jokes from people, and I’m sure it gets old.
But that’s a pet peeve, not a human rights violation. People need to chill out.
The chick in question had immigrant parents and apparently ate Chinese style food all her life (without apparently bothering to learn from mom how to make it, because she was, like, in her rebellious phase, “Yeah, I have a green streak in my hair, but don’t other me by commenting on it!”). That is different (“otherish”?), so many people would like to hear about it, but if she doesn’t want to talk about it, hey, no problem, nice weather, huh?
In this case, it’s the simple fact of being asked that causes offense no matter what the intention behind it, friendliness, simple curiosity, just making conversation. It places a natural and innocent impulse beyond the pale, socially, so then these commissariat’s accusations are made and the art installations go up and all the rest of it. That’s what I object to, this peevish willingness to look for an insult where none is intended or really even given.
The you tube vid had poor video/audio sync, but it seemed that Tucker smiled when Jim Antle said “Invading the world, inviting the world”. Seemed that Tucker has heard this (your) phrase more than a few times. In my book Tucker put your phrase into action when he stopped Trump from retaliating against Iran.
“You better stop, look around
Here it comes, here it comes, here it comes, here it comes”- Jagger Richards
Tucker had more juice than John Bolton, the foreign policy professional. The hilarious thing is that Tucker gets instant respect from The Donald because he sees him on TV and likes what he has seen. It’s all good!
Why is it wrong to ask where someone, or their family, is from? Why is that malicious? What exactly is the grievance here? Why do they hate ordinary people so much? What do they expect of other human beings, of life? Perfect psychological and social comfort which will never end?
They’re on the wrong planet. Having a human nature is rigorous, so is moving around in human society.
Yes, many Leftists believe the entire world should be their customized safe space…kind of like mommy’s womb.
If I hit my local Aldi’s I see 20% white Americans. 30% pretty white Latinos. The other 50% is browns, mestizos and blacks, some imported like Haitians and some native blacks. I live in a good area with HOA etc. but for how long?
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/why-rich-kids-are-so-good-at-the-marshmallow-test?utm_source=pocket-newtab
Whatever. Who wants to read all that nonsense?
Marshmallows are gross anyway. If they really wanted to test kids’ patience, they should have tempted them with chocolate kisses or M&Ms.
I knew his brother in Philadelphia, Chin Pan Zi.
I had to go to the Patent and Trademark Office.
“By Eliza Shapiro and Vivian Wang”
Snerk.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/12/28/multimedia/author-eliza-shapiro/author-eliza-shapiro-thumbLarge.png
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/06/14/multimedia/author-vivian-wang/author-vivian-wang-thumbLarge-v2.png
Eliza Shapiro
- Born in or about 1990 to a well-connected Jewish family
- Columbia University, Class of 2012
- "Grew up in New York City and attended public and private schools in Manhattan and Brooklyn"
Family background:By a strange, totally-non-nepotistic series of coincidences, Eliza went to the same elite school she has all those connections at, and works at the NYT where -- again crazy coincidence! -- her mom has worked at for decades.
__________________
Vivian Wang
- Presumably born in or about 1995, in the USA, to Chinese parents
- "Raised in Chicago"
- Yale Class of 2017 (BA in English, Creative Writing Concentration)
Vivian Wang on herself, her mother, and being a "Twinkie":
I wonder if she’s ever eaten chinese food in China? Like eating mexican in Mexico.
Adopt a policy explicitly banning the admission of White Gentile students to Stuyvesant, and reserving for Blacks and Latinx the same number of admission slots as were taken by Whites in the last year that they were still admitted. This would have several benefits.
1. The policy could be labeled as the 2019 Slavery Reparations in Education Act, thus getting the ball rolling on enacting slavery reparations.
2. White Jews would be unaffected and that would serve as reparations for the Holocaust.
3. No one in the coalition of the fringes would lose any admission slots so they’ll all be happy and hang together, or at least for a while longer.
4. When the courts tie themselves into rhetorical knots to uphold the constitutionality of the Act, that will serve as another spiking of the football in the faces of us bitter, clinging Deplorables. It reinforces the message that we need to stop squirming away from under the knife and accept our fate, because we’re just making it more unpleasant for all concerned without changing the inevitable outcome.
I know that yourl weren’t being serious, but as an actual fact even if all the white students were booted out of Stuyvesant and their percentage given over to blacks and Hispanics these two groups would still be greatly underrepresented. There just aren’t enough whites to go around. This would be even more true if Jewish students were allowed to stay. I’m not sure what proportion of the white minority is Jewish but it must be significant.
Long term however, and worldwide, there is the coming crisis from the fact that the Earth has reached and passed Peak White. White is a precious resource, and it is not renewing itself at a sustainable rate, while at the same time the demand for this resource is growing as the rest of the world population grows exponentially. Even thirty years ago the school desegregation busing plan for the Los Angeles Unified School District foundered on the reality that there simply weren’t enough White kids left.
OT: In the ongoing Intersectional Chronicles, dozens of young actresses auditioned to play the role of young Tina Turner in the upcoming Tina Turner musical. Surprisingly, they are all black! And all girls! This doesn’t seem to be very Intersectional or gender-aware. Yet no one seems to be complaining.
https://www.thecut.com/2019/06/audition-broadway-tina-the-tina-turner-musical.html
Best part of this article. A nine year old black girl is asked:
Did you tell your friends about the audition?
Her reply:
No. I never told them anything because I don’t want them to learn my business. Next thing you know, it’s, “Give me some money.”
Should have gone with “there”, as that’s what nà ge means, but I’m still impressed that you pulled out some Chinese.
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* I think World Star Hip Hop, or better yet, the cops ought to have a permanent station to watch the ordering of Big Mac meals at McDonalds in Chinatown. I would not be surprised if a number of Chinese people that are not all too familiar with the 2 all-beef-patties menu haven't gotten yelled at, punched, or shot at already. "I want ... see (points to menu) nà ge ..." Pow!
Still funny to you?
Yes hilarious. Very funny.
“certified high IQ safe spaces”
Yes, that’s true…these are not really ‘science schools’ but safe spaces for the Asians and some IQ White students who would otherwise be beat up every day in our regular public school system…
Just like the Yeshivas have turned into safe spaces for Jewish kids to be educated and the few screened elementary and middle schools are safe spaces for middle income White kids to attend.
However, DeBlasio has semi-achieved his goal by forcing the science schools to increase their enrollment for Discovery Program students (it’s up to 20% now maybe higher) which means those 20% spots are held for students who don’t pass the test and get admitted later…most of those students were Asians as well…but I think now they might begin using his formula for that 20% to take the highest performers from every middle school in the city…that will be about 200 kids or so every year per school. More than enough to wreck any safe spaces those schools might have provided.
*Tell little Chen I said hi! -Uncle Tong
I like how America has become so ethnically heterogeneous that the power-sharing dynamics now mean that this story needed a Vivian Wang as a second author on the byline.
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-lee-asian-american-attainment-gap-20190221-story.html
That article sure is trying hard to build a victim narrative for one of the most wealthy demographics in the nation. Now where have I seen that before?
My estimation of Ron Lauder immensely improved once I learned he graduated Bronx High School of Science. Nevertheless, it still remains remarkedly low!
I know just what you mean!
TJ used to have a very hard core admissions policy, when first opened. Whole idea was to be like Bronx Science, I think. Sounds like it has weakened some, but is probably still strong. I know pre-TJ, Fairfax County had 3-6 and 7-8 “Superior Learner” program, that was county-wide, with bussing, and had an explicit IQ test (140 requirement). They didn’t have anything for high school until TJ, because they figured tracking and AP and the like would take care of kids at their regular schools.
-70s Soopie (yep…I rode the bus…did local high school though…TJ not established as science school yet)
P.s. I went to the “number two” HS (after Langley of course) and TJ didn’t open until my senior year. If you think I was transferring then? No way. We already had all them thar AP classes, teachers that were as smart as college profs but liked hanging out with teenagers, etc.
Agreed. I was at the boat school. The uncollege. Getting my ass hazed off. And the false pride stripped off. Something this Yankee chick never learned. Sand that attitude right down. Nothing like watching someone cry and quit.
Steve misreads the situation. It was not a fight between blacks/browns v. Asians. As noted in the article, there wasn’t even a rally in support of the bill. This issue has low engagement in black and brown communities. The people driving this issue were white liberals and they came into conflict with Asians. So actually it was a majority v. minority issue even though on the surface it looked like a fight between minority groups.
Some of the admission by test schools used to have a lot of blacks back when the outer boroughs were declining and whites were fleeing, but they have since been replaced by Asians.
The Plan is for the blacks to flee to Poughkeepsie, or, preferably, Ocala.
I sense the time is right for Pacific Islanders to separate themselves from the American “Asian” race.
Staten Island is still over half Italian.
Not anymore. Staten Island is barely 60% white, and that comprises many different ethnic groups. In any event, the entire borough is only about 7% of the city's population.
Rural New York and New England shared a lot of things with FDR, but class wasn’t one of them. Not by a long shot.
Vermont historian Frank Bryan says that FDR’s plan for a mountain parkway bisecting the state south-to-north was shot down in town meetings. Diamonds weren’t worn at town meeting.
Agreed but one must work with the materials at hand. Set them upon each other.
As the weaker party straight White men we should encourage our enemies to fight each other.
I notice there isn’t one mention of Whites in the article. I went to Stuyvesant when dinosaurs roamed, long before wailings about “institutional racism” and all the other garbage we’ve been subjected to since 1965. At the time, there was ONE test to get in and if you passed, YOU picked which of the three you wanted to go to (Stuy, Bx. Sci., or Bklyn. Tech.) This was when Stuy. was at 345 E. 15th St. off of 1st Ave. There was a candy store right next to Stuy. where we hung out all the time.
Whites and Jews predominated then. There were some Orientals, a few blacks and a couple of Puerto Ricans. Btw, there were NO girls then either. Most of us got along most of the time. I remember buying my first switchblade (for $5!) when I was a sophomore. (Believe or not, I still have it!)
Anyway, this was before America fell into the multicultural sewer. I’m glad I got to live through that period because it will never be that way again…
Yes, that's true...these are not really 'science schools' but safe spaces for the Asians and some IQ White students who would otherwise be beat up every day in our regular public school system...
Just like the Yeshivas have turned into safe spaces for Jewish kids to be educated and the few screened elementary and middle schools are safe spaces for middle income White kids to attend.
However, DeBlasio has semi-achieved his goal by forcing the science schools to increase their enrollment for Discovery Program students (it's up to 20% now maybe higher) which means those 20% spots are held for students who don't pass the test and get admitted later...most of those students were Asians as well...but I think now they might begin using his formula for that 20% to take the highest performers from every middle school in the city...that will be about 200 kids or so every year per school. More than enough to wreck any safe spaces those schools might have provided.
I can’t help but wonder how Chinese/Indian families explain this situation back home.
*Somewhere in Beijing Provence*
Uncle Tong: “Your telling me all the rich and talented kids have to jump through all these hoops to keep the bad riffraff out!? They’re lazy and stupid and everyone knows its a bad idea, but they do it anyway? Why do the round eyes live in utter fear of these brutes? No wonder the US has gone down the crapper. China will reign supreme in our lifetimes, just wait and see.
*Tell little Chen I said hi!
-Uncle Tong
That's a rather prophetic misspelling. The real Provence will be yet another Beijing West within our lifetimes.
"Well at least I won't live to see it."
Oh yes you will.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/26/birmingham-anderton-park-primary-muslim-protests-lgbt-teaching-rights
A Mohammedan named Patricia Verkerk. That alone is disturbing.
But she still thinks white.
But that's a pet peeve, not a human rights violation. People need to chill out.
The chick in question had immigrant parents and apparently ate Chinese style food all her life (without apparently bothering to learn from mom how to make it, because she was, like, in her rebellious phase, "Yeah, I have a green streak in my hair, but don't other me by commenting on it!"). That is different ("otherish"?), so many people would like to hear about it, but if she doesn't want to talk about it, hey, no problem, nice weather, huh?
Yes, it’s a chore to make the rote answer again and again to a question one’s been asked many times before.
In this case, it’s the simple fact of being asked that causes offense no matter what the intention behind it, friendliness, simple curiosity, just making conversation. It places a natural and innocent impulse beyond the pale, socially, so then these commissariat’s accusations are made and the art installations go up and all the rest of it. That’s what I object to, this peevish willingness to look for an insult where none is intended or really even given.
https://www.thecut.com/2019/06/audition-broadway-tina-the-tina-turner-musical.html
Best part of this article. A nine year old black girl is asked:
Did you tell your friends about the audition?
Her reply:
No. I never told them anything because I don’t want them to learn my business. Next thing you know, it’s, “Give me some money.”
The former and present denizens of Nutbush, Tennessee, such as Tina Turner, don’t need no lecture on so-called “intersectionality” from Evil White Scum posing as defenders of non-Whites. The young Black lady who is chosen to play Miss Tina Turner don’t need no “intersectionality” horseshit neither.
A noose found near a Crown Heights church?
Was Jussie Smollet seen in the neighborhood enjoying a foot-long and then later at the local sub shop for a snack?
Staten Island is still over half Italian.
Not anymore. Staten Island is barely 60% white, and that comprises many different ethnic groups. In any event, the entire borough is only about 7% of the city’s population.
The NYT link is to the wrong page
*Tell little Chen I said hi! -Uncle Tong
“Somewhere in Beijing Provence”
That’s a rather prophetic misspelling. The real Provence will be yet another Beijing West within our lifetimes.
“Well at least I won’t live to see it.”
Oh yes you will.
So you think the 22500 – if it’s really 15% out of 150k – white kids are massively into good public schools away from the 100k blacks and Latinos …. That would mean there is a good public school system by Zip code without selection procedure.
That’s good to know that there are people enjoying good public services just because of location.
Correcting for white kids IQ at asian level 105 (there are still firemen, nurses kids and shop keepers kids I suppose) because it’s a big city that attracts talent, it would put the average public school kid around 89, and the threshold to Stuyvesant at 127.
For a white kid under 145, it’s crazy to go to this school. And for a black above 130, it doesn’t make any sense either. He could get admitted to Regis or another elite private school.
Take the list of the schools with the highest SAT in your nation, there are almost all private. Stuyvesant is an exception.
In NY, Regis, Dalton, Horace Mann, Collegiate, Bradley etc …. schools have higher average SAT than Stuyvesant (already named 5 in NY !).
And the environnement has nothing to do with Stuyvesant. It’s like comparing a British club and a KFC or a greasy asian in a highway ….
Bright whites should (and even more Nams) leverage their admission to go elsewhere if they can. Only asian are stuck to it mostly. That’s a case where bright white can have a minority advantage I guess.
My Chinese source says “nà ge” means “that”, Elsewhere. Either way, it doesn’t make perfect sense, but I guess you do get the pronunciation joke.* It ain’t easy making these jokes, and I appreciate any help I can get.
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* I think World Star Hip Hop, or better yet, the cops ought to have a permanent station to watch the ordering of Big Mac meals at McDonalds in Chinatown. I would not be surprised if a number of Chinese people that are not all too familiar with the 2 all-beef-patties menu haven’t gotten yelled at, punched, or shot at already. “I want … see (points to menu) nà ge …” Pow!
The problem will only get worse.
https://twitter.com/purehategraphs/status/1143295406958235648
As vile and cowardly as this?
https://nypost.com/2019/06/24/more-innocent-bystanders-shot-in-the-bronx/
Macroaggression
https://twitter.com/Ilhan/status/1141826315240255488
Never a damn word about the victims of these “vulnerable” inmates’ crimes
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/12/28/multimedia/author-eliza-shapiro/author-eliza-shapiro-thumbLarge.png
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/06/14/multimedia/author-vivian-wang/author-vivian-wang-thumbLarge-v2.png
Eliza Shapiro
- Born in or about 1990 to a well-connected Jewish family
- Columbia University, Class of 2012
- "Grew up in New York City and attended public and private schools in Manhattan and Brooklyn"
Family background:By a strange, totally-non-nepotistic series of coincidences, Eliza went to the same elite school she has all those connections at, and works at the NYT where -- again crazy coincidence! -- her mom has worked at for decades.
__________________
Vivian Wang
- Presumably born in or about 1995, in the USA, to Chinese parents
- "Raised in Chicago"
- Yale Class of 2017 (BA in English, Creative Writing Concentration)
Vivian Wang on herself, her mother, and being a "Twinkie":
Two nice looking women, especially Vivian Wang. Bright and well-educated. Where’s the beef?
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/12/28/multimedia/author-eliza-shapiro/author-eliza-shapiro-thumbLarge.png
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/06/14/multimedia/author-vivian-wang/author-vivian-wang-thumbLarge-v2.png
Eliza Shapiro
- Born in or about 1990 to a well-connected Jewish family
- Columbia University, Class of 2012
- "Grew up in New York City and attended public and private schools in Manhattan and Brooklyn"
Family background:By a strange, totally-non-nepotistic series of coincidences, Eliza went to the same elite school she has all those connections at, and works at the NYT where -- again crazy coincidence! -- her mom has worked at for decades.
__________________
Vivian Wang
- Presumably born in or about 1995, in the USA, to Chinese parents
- "Raised in Chicago"
- Yale Class of 2017 (BA in English, Creative Writing Concentration)
Vivian Wang on herself, her mother, and being a "Twinkie":
I thought “Shapiro and Wang” sounded like a vaudeville act.
Oh, wait–it is.
Bizarre name for a Chinese restaurant. Maybe that was the point.
In Paris, I would say that outside the city (the 8M suburbs), the worst student are in public high schools. I would say it’s 92 average IQ against 100 for private with an average of 96.
Inside Paris (the 2M Parisian), there are two elitist public high school (the best in the country) Henri IV et Louis Le Grand and some very good public high school by Zip code. I would say that the top 10% white pupils are splitter equally among private and public. The top 2% is probably in those two high schools.
But, for the other 90%, more than two third of the bottom 45% is in the public and two third of the first 45% is in the private sector.
So the average level would be at least -5IQ points for the public and +5IQ for the private besides, the top 10% being equally distributed and the elite being mostly public, gathered in just two high schools near Panthéon that recruit on Gpa (and who you know for 20% of the spots, but informally).
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/12/28/multimedia/author-eliza-shapiro/author-eliza-shapiro-thumbLarge.png
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/06/14/multimedia/author-vivian-wang/author-vivian-wang-thumbLarge-v2.png
Eliza Shapiro
- Born in or about 1990 to a well-connected Jewish family
- Columbia University, Class of 2012
- "Grew up in New York City and attended public and private schools in Manhattan and Brooklyn"
Family background:By a strange, totally-non-nepotistic series of coincidences, Eliza went to the same elite school she has all those connections at, and works at the NYT where -- again crazy coincidence! -- her mom has worked at for decades.
__________________
Vivian Wang
- Presumably born in or about 1995, in the USA, to Chinese parents
- "Raised in Chicago"
- Yale Class of 2017 (BA in English, Creative Writing Concentration)
Vivian Wang on herself, her mother, and being a "Twinkie":
I’m Asian and I think this is ridiculous. This is America not China. If you want to eat Chinese food everyday, go back to China. Otherwise, eat what everyone else eats and stop whining. Even my kids know since first day of Kindergarten: you get what you get and you don’t throw a fit.
Personally I think salad is awesome, I eat salad for lunch every day. There’s nothing like biting into cold, crisp, fresh lettuce, it’s like eating nature’s bounty in a bowl. There are so many dressings you could make, so many things you could put in it, same goes for sandwich — two of the greatest ideas ever.
Ms. Wang needs to read a history book like The Old World in the New by E.A. Ross and gain an appreciation for how hard the pioneers had it when they first arrived, and what they had to endure to build this amazing country. Johnny come latelies who arrived since 1965 have no room to complain. NYTimes is purposely hiring these whiny Asian female SJW writers to whine and bitch about everything about America in order to drive a wedge between whites and Asians. Majority of Asians are not whiny like these dimwits. They are an embarrassment to all thinking Asians in the US.
Ms Wang was simply making up a convenient lie.
https://hospitality.yale.edu/yale-dining/menu/436
Was it one of those garden string nooses tied in a Windsor knot, a la mode du Jussie?
Or one of those cable-tray-pull-tape nooses like that one sassy black gal said was hung over her particular cube in the open-space office to threaten her specifically?
Or one of those rowboat-tyin’-up-loop nooses?
Or one of those nooses resulting from paper party lanterns that melted after a rain?
Or what?
They never say, and dammit, we knot-physics geeks demand to know!!!
https://gcaptain.com/the-science-of-knots/
China has for 2000 years had a remarkably meritocratic system, hardcore economic Darwinism, though of course mediated by nepotism.
Any bright young boy could in theory, and quite often in practice, rise to the very highest positions below that of Emperor.
The great majority of families who could have a son spend years studying the Confucian classics in preparation for the civil service exams were at least well to do.
If nothing else, a boy could grow up poor, make money and get his sons into competition for the next round of the civil service exams. That's not at all the same thing as a hereditary caste system that goes on for centuries with people locked into the position they were born into.
That China and India are both on the same continent doesn't mean they have much of anything else at all in common.
Would Boris probably repeat May’s slow-walking of Brexit? If not, then embrace the fuzzy yellow ball.
An Asian elite won’t get us into senseless wars in the Middle East, and will probably help to prevent war with China.
I have plenty of Irish relatives in NYC. They don’t go to public schools.
"You better stop, look around
Here it comes, here it comes, here it comes, here it comes"- Jagger RichardsTucker had more juice than John Bolton, the foreign policy professional. The hilarious thing is that Tucker gets instant respect from The Donald because he sees him on TV and likes what he has seen. It's all good!
Tucker is going to interview Trump in Japan.
Trump on CNBC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWVdcuGFmXY
Very witty by Trump and fair from CNBC.
I hear ya. The blob is creeping towards me.
Not really, since it could certainly in theory be racist in favor of Asians. For some reason this option is never discussed.
A large number of Whites in NYC attend private schools. The old catholic parish school system thrives.
Many Whites stay out of the public school system.
What’s up with Steve’s interest in this high school anyway? Affirmative Action rules America. A tiny victory in a few NYC schools won’t help.
I predict that the next step is an affirmation action court case for the elite schools. The judges will rule in favor of affirmative action. And the black&brown school administration will joyfully reject every White applicant.
Looks like Jussie Smollett is at it again.
The specialized high schools may be more localized to NYC, but the Asian vs. NAM conflict is showing up in practically all universities up and down the west coast and NE. All UCs are fighting this, along with University of Washington, Stanford, MIT and the Ivies.
Doesn't CountThere are no *principled* reasons for not naming Stuyvesant High School "Unit 731."
Also see: Bedford-Stuy, Bedford Hordeolum, paging Dr. Pimple Popper
At least they can count that high.
Personally I think salad is awesome, I eat salad for lunch every day. There's nothing like biting into cold, crisp, fresh lettuce, it's like eating nature's bounty in a bowl. There are so many dressings you could make, so many things you could put in it, same goes for sandwich -- two of the greatest ideas ever.
Ms. Wang needs to read a history book like The Old World in the New by E.A. Ross and gain an appreciation for how hard the pioneers had it when they first arrived, and what they had to endure to build this amazing country. Johnny come latelies who arrived since 1965 have no room to complain. NYTimes is purposely hiring these whiny Asian female SJW writers to whine and bitch about everything about America in order to drive a wedge between whites and Asians. Majority of Asians are not whiny like these dimwits. They are an embarrassment to all thinking Asians in the US.
Well here’s one Yale dining hall menu. Looks like they got vegetables. Locally sourced no less. And changes every day. There are many dining halls.
Ms Wang was simply making up a convenient lie.
https://hospitality.yale.edu/yale-dining/menu/436
Or perhaps it’s time to separate the brown Asians from the yellow Asians.
We are frogs not in a pot, but in a caste-iron wok.
Oh, wait--it is.
Anyone ever eat at Tokyo Shapiro in Winston-Salem? It was closed the day I was in town.
Bizarre name for a Chinese restaurant. Maybe that was the point.
Are whites a majority in New York City?
As you well know, whites are certainly only a numerical minority in NYC. But as you also very well know, numbers are irrelevant in this case. What counts is New York Times readership, which in this case is predominantly white and of a particular secular religion.
Same here.
I’ve never known how the teachers unions allowed it (labor brought it in) but in Australia we have something called naplan which is a virtually universal test of the English and maths skills of 3rd, 5th, 7th and 9th grade students. The results on a school by school basis are then all publicly available and each school has its parent income, attendance stats and proportion of students where English isn’t spoken at home published too. The newspapers mine the data each year when it’s published and the top scores overwhelmingly come from academically selective state high schools in the state of New South Wales, which are heavily Asian (80-90 % across all selective schools according to a Guardian piece). This is not unexpected. An interesting bit of data though is that the results for secular ish Jewish private schools in Melbourne look to be somewhat inferior to those of the older Anglo private schools even when compared to only those with the same family income. This doesn’t seem to have stopped these places producing successful business moguls, but from this measure at least there’s no obvious school results difference (as against Anglo-scots) generated by a school being all Jewish.
Non hispanic white is 32.1% of NYC. Looks like it will be plurality hispanic in 5-10 years.
Steve,
As you well know, whites are certainly only a numerical minority in NYC. But as you also very well know, numbers are irrelevant in this case. What counts is New York Times readership, which in this case is predominantly white and of a particular secular religion.
https://twitter.com/Ilhan/status/1141826315240255488
Her accent is distinctively half Somali and half Minnesotan (think Minneapolis, not Fargo.)
https://twitter.com/Ilhan/status/1141826315240255488
Paul Manafort would agree
One interesting thing about the Stuyvesant admissions debate is that Hispanics have been much quieter than blacks even though they’re just as underrepresented.
prosa123:
My explanation is that NYC Hispanics are not into the public grievance business as much as blacks. But then none are into the public grievance business as much as blacks. (Of course, NYC Jewish grievances are less publicly vocal but much more effective!)
The headline is misleading because Asians aren’t really in the coalition of the fringes.
When you look at it, a common catchphrase on the hard left is “white and Asian privilege.”
The inclusion of Asian is rather gratuitous, but also revealing.
Asians arent really in the coalition of the fringes. They are minorities, technically, but other minorities from the fringes kick them out.
Personally I think salad is awesome, I eat salad for lunch every day. There's nothing like biting into cold, crisp, fresh lettuce, it's like eating nature's bounty in a bowl. There are so many dressings you could make, so many things you could put in it, same goes for sandwich -- two of the greatest ideas ever.
Ms. Wang needs to read a history book like The Old World in the New by E.A. Ross and gain an appreciation for how hard the pioneers had it when they first arrived, and what they had to endure to build this amazing country. Johnny come latelies who arrived since 1965 have no room to complain. NYTimes is purposely hiring these whiny Asian female SJW writers to whine and bitch about everything about America in order to drive a wedge between whites and Asians. Majority of Asians are not whiny like these dimwits. They are an embarrassment to all thinking Asians in the US.
‘. . . wondering what I had done to deserve this [i.e. bad ‘Asian’ college food]’ — give me a break.
What’s especially ridiculous about Ms Wang’s whining is that school/university canteen food in Chinese cultures, at least here in Hong Kong, is awful. We occasionally used to order school lunches for Daughter C, but they were swill. It’s ironic, given the culinary wonders available here. But HK students are expected to endure fairly Spartan conditions.
The university canteens here are also mediocre to terrible. I’m sure Yale’s food services are miles better.
Wang’s just serving up a half-assed schtick so that she can be seen to be exhibiting at least baseline Holy Minority Victim status. If that’s the best Yale has taught her to do, there’s hope for the future.
True, but for at least for a while they will have the warm and fuzzy of knowing the Whites have been booted out. That will hold them for a while.
Long term however, and worldwide, there is the coming crisis from the fact that the Earth has reached and passed Peak White. White is a precious resource, and it is not renewing itself at a sustainable rate, while at the same time the demand for this resource is growing as the rest of the world population grows exponentially. Even thirty years ago the school desegregation busing plan for the Los Angeles Unified School District foundered on the reality that there simply weren’t enough White kids left.
There is a clothing brand called Daupanzees. Google and Bing will tell you nothing about it, at least in the first hundred hits. Except now to buy one.
I had to go to the Patent and Trademark Office.
Marshmallows are gross anyway. If they really wanted to test kids' patience, they should have tempted them with chocolate kisses or M&Ms.
Yeah, I never got the attraction to marshmallows. I find them disgusting.
Why can’t the sadists and predators be kept separate from the people who just want to keep their heads down and do their time?
Except that, in theory, you can earn your way out of solitary confinement.
We can go to ‘gourmet’ groceries and pay double or triple (yet another tax on white people) or we can move out to the country where there are virtually no services at all. The second option is becoming the only option. Your nation has been hijacked.
Anti-bullying is the social equivalent of anti-vaxxing.
That's a rather prophetic misspelling. The real Provence will be yet another Beijing West within our lifetimes.
"Well at least I won't live to see it."
Oh yes you will.
I travelled there during High School for a few months. Our native bus driver was VERY frank on a lot of local issues. I’ve also never seen so many black Buick’s in my life! The nice interior apparently is a big seller. Also KFC and McDonald’s are high class restaurants.
Many Whites stay out of the public school system.
What’s up with Steve’s interest in this high school anyway? Affirmative Action rules America. A tiny victory in a few NYC schools won’t help.
I predict that the next step is an affirmation action court case for the elite schools. The judges will rule in favor of affirmative action. And the black&brown school administration will joyfully reject every White applicant.
Stuyvesant High seems to be a weird hybridization between Eton (status) and MIT ( iq/merit.) Many people who (currently) go there are very likely going to become important “shakers and movers” in the future. However, if this “diversity” initiative go’s through, it’ll likely become a poison pill for the whole institution. Rich whites don’t send their children to schools where stabbings are a common occurrence. God knows how schools, universities, and the College Board will look like in 20 years. 🧐
Thanks! I will catch this on you tube for sure.
Trump on CNBC
Very witty by Trump and fair from CNBC.
Vivian is cute. The other one… isn’t Vivian.
Regardless of whether a coalition of the fringes or of the mainstream, always a coalition of FEMALE VIRTUE.
“Wayfair Employees To Protest Company’s Business With Migrant Border Camps”
“Knowing what’s going on at the southern border and knowing that Wayfair has the potential to profit from it is pretty scary,” Elizabeth Good, a Wayfair manager who helped organize the group, told the Boston Globe on Tuesday.
“I want to work at a company where the standards we hold ourselves to are the same standards that we hold our customers and our partners to.”
Employees plan a walkout for Wednesday after executives refused to stop selling furniture intended for migrant detention centers.
According to the group, Wayfair agreed to sell beds to furnish detention centers.
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) said she stood behind the Wayfair employees’ protest, noting that the “safety and well-being of immigrant children is always worth fighting for.”
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), who has referred to detention centers as “concentration camps,” said that the expected company walkout is an example of solidarity with those who oppose current immigration policies.
“This is what solidarity looks like ― a reminder that everyday people have real power, as long as we’re brave enough to use it,” she tweeted.
According to Wikipedia there were ~1.5 million italians, irish and germans in NYC 10 years ago, compared to ~1 million asians. How many could have left in just a decade?
FIFY 😉
Buicks are very popular in China. They love the rear-seat legroom since they also love to be driven around by a chauffeur and play at being plutocrats. A couple generations of communism will do that to people, apparently.
https://youtu.be/3Q7VX-5WvOQ
To be sure. But having more or less meritocratic (ignoring China’s loonngg history of corruption) competition between men drawn from all levels of the “at least well to do” is very different indeed from having top positions more or less inherited.
If nothing else, a boy could grow up poor, make money and get his sons into competition for the next round of the civil service exams. That’s not at all the same thing as a hereditary caste system that goes on for centuries with people locked into the position they were born into.
That China and India are both on the same continent doesn’t mean they have much of anything else at all in common.
Personally I think salad is awesome, I eat salad for lunch every day. There's nothing like biting into cold, crisp, fresh lettuce, it's like eating nature's bounty in a bowl. There are so many dressings you could make, so many things you could put in it, same goes for sandwich -- two of the greatest ideas ever.
Ms. Wang needs to read a history book like The Old World in the New by E.A. Ross and gain an appreciation for how hard the pioneers had it when they first arrived, and what they had to endure to build this amazing country. Johnny come latelies who arrived since 1965 have no room to complain. NYTimes is purposely hiring these whiny Asian female SJW writers to whine and bitch about everything about America in order to drive a wedge between whites and Asians. Majority of Asians are not whiny like these dimwits. They are an embarrassment to all thinking Asians in the US.
I think I’ll go to China and complain bitterly about being unable to find quality eastern NC barbecue or jambalaya. Only possible explanation is racism.
Once Tiffany Caban unleashes criminals all over Queens, Asians will really wake up.
I also hope that Asians will "wake up". Actually I hope that Asians will "reawaken". It was not too long ago that Asians (and in particular North East Asians) voted Republican as refugees from Communism. Being wed to the Democratic party is a losing proposition since their interests there will always be secondary to historically aggrieved groups. Hopefully the Stuyvesant kerfuffle will serve as a NYC wake-up call!
BTW, Caban's victory in Queens arose from newly arrived yuppies (or in current parlance, millennials).
Yup. White Catholic kids go to Catholic school. Most Jews go to private school.
Deng Xiaoping: “to get rich is glorious”
Personally I think salad is awesome, I eat salad for lunch every day. There's nothing like biting into cold, crisp, fresh lettuce, it's like eating nature's bounty in a bowl. There are so many dressings you could make, so many things you could put in it, same goes for sandwich -- two of the greatest ideas ever.
Ms. Wang needs to read a history book like The Old World in the New by E.A. Ross and gain an appreciation for how hard the pioneers had it when they first arrived, and what they had to endure to build this amazing country. Johnny come latelies who arrived since 1965 have no room to complain. NYTimes is purposely hiring these whiny Asian female SJW writers to whine and bitch about everything about America in order to drive a wedge between whites and Asians. Majority of Asians are not whiny like these dimwits. They are an embarrassment to all thinking Asians in the US.
you are probably some twinkie with a white boyfriend boytoy so dont speak for the rest of us, stay away from real asians especially our grocery stores and shopping centers and keep your half mutt children from our children if you have any that is, a wedge needs to be driven between the asian woman and the white man you bimbos are a curse to asian men
Marty T:
I also hope that Asians will “wake up”. Actually I hope that Asians will “reawaken”. It was not too long ago that Asians (and in particular North East Asians) voted Republican as refugees from Communism. Being wed to the Democratic party is a losing proposition since their interests there will always be secondary to historically aggrieved groups. Hopefully the Stuyvesant kerfuffle will serve as a NYC wake-up call!
BTW, Caban’s victory in Queens arose from newly arrived yuppies (or in current parlance, millennials).
I peaked in eighth grade and got the Golden Ticket to Regis.
Regis can’t be compared to anything in NYC, as it is an all-boys, all-scholarship Catholic high school. Being Catholic and male are absolute requirements. Would-be Tiger parents of all races who would otherwise march to advocate or complain at any other private school help keep order, as a mere whiff of discontent or trouble allows the Jesuit administration to arch eyebrows and openly wonder whether their rogue son is the right fit for a free education worth tens of thousands of dollars per year.
Rice University’s meals were awful in the late 1970s.
My guess is that they’d be much better now. Good food — along with the nicer dorms and pretty student centers and the occasional lazy river — now seems to be a big selling point when you make a campus visit. The colleges we’ve visited so far with Daughter C all had detailed spiels touting their feeding options.
Anyone hear echos of the “can’t find soul food” by Miz Wang? She is repeating a trope.