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Back in 2009, I tried some long term Machiavellian political strategizing:

Sailer Strategy Supplement: Rebrand Democrats As The Black Party

Steve Sailer
10/04/2009

On this reading, the Republican Party can’t just have a positive strategy of attracting and mobilizing white voters. There has to be a supplementary tactic. Republicans must also drive voters away from the Democrats by using wedge issues and shrewd rhetoric to aggravate the inevitable fault lines in the Democrats’ unwieldy coalition.

Even if this doesn’t convert anyone to the GOP, it would lower turnout among potential voters who lean Democrat.

In 2008, McCain let Obama position himself to blacks as the black candidate, to other nonwhites as the nonwhite candidate, and to whites as the postracial candidate. Yet, unless treated as timidly as McCain handled his opponent in 2008, a black-led four-race coalition is an inherently fragile thing.

The good news for the GOP about black voters: it really can’t get much worse than 2008. McCain ran as gingerly as imaginable on topics even remotely related to race, and still lost 95-4 among blacks. …

The more important question is: What about the growing immigrant groups, the Hispanics and the Asians, who, together, cast 9.9 percent of the vote in 2008?

Karl Rove labored mightily to convert Hispanics into Republicans, with minimal success and catastrophic side effects. There simply are fundamental reasons why a low-income group will always be more attracted to the Democrats, with their proud tax-and-spend tradition. (Asians might be a different story, but there’s no evidence of it as yet and anyway nobody has paid them much attention.)

A more plausible Republican strategy, one with much history on its side, is to work to make Hispanics and Asians less enthusiastic about voting Democrat.

Maybe they could get so disgusted with the Democrats that they convert to Republicans. Or maybe not. Maybe they’ll just vote less. Half a loaf (or a non-cast vote from your opponent’s base constituency) is better than none.

… But let’s be realistic. Being, in essence, the white party makes the GOP uncool. And that’s only going to get worse as the impact of decades of indoctrination in the uncoolness of white people by the school system and Main Stream Media continue to pile up.

Further, contra Karl Rove, the GOP will never be able to shake its white party image. It will either increase its share of the white vote or it will go out of business as a party capable of winning national power.

My suggestion: the only long-term option for the Republicans, the de facto white party, is to rebrand the Democrats as the de facto black party.

Not the Minority Party or the Cool, Hip, Multicultural Party—but the Black Party. Go with the flow of the fundamental Manichaeism of American thought: Black versus White.

Sure, it’s kind of retarded, but Americans, especially American intellectuals and pundits, aren’t good at thinking in terms of shades of brown. You can’t beat it, so use it.

Hispanics and Asians certainly will never be terribly happy with the idea of being junior partners in the white party. (Indeed, lots of white people have an allergy to belonging to the white party.) Hence, the alternative must be framed that if Hispanics and Asians don’t want to be junior partners in the white party, they get [to] be junior partners in the black party.

Black or white: choose one.

Or they can not choose and stay home on Election Day.

The subtle cunning of the tactic of rebranding the Democrats as the black party is not to criticize the Democrats for being the vehicle of African-American political activism, but to praise them for it, over and over, in the most offhand “everybody-knows” ways.

Republicans can hurry along the coming Democratic train wreck by, for example, lauding blacks as the “moral core” of the Democratic Party. Respectfully point out that the Democratic Party is the rightful agent for the assertion of African-American racial interests, and that advancing black interests is central to the nature of the Democratic Party. Note that, while individual blacks wishing to vote for the good of the country are more than welcome in the GOP, black racial activists have their natural home in the Democratic Party. That’s what the Democrats are there for.

Don’t argue it. Just treat it as a given.

Moreover, Republican rhetoric should encourage feelings of proprietariness among blacks toward their Democratic Party. It’s not all that hard to get blacks to feel that they morally deserve something, such as, for example, predominance in the Democratic Party. African-Americans are good at feeling that others owe them deference.

This kind of subtle language, casually repeated, puts Democrats in a delicate spot. Either they insult blacks by denying this presumption, or they alarm their Asian, Hispanic, and white supporters by not denying it. As everybody knows, but seldom says, black political control hasn’t worked out well for places as far apart as Detroit and Zimbabwe.

For instance, 2016 on the Democratic side will be interesting. If Obama wins re-election in 2012, blacks will argue, not unreasonably, that they’ve brought the Democrats political prosperity and therefore a black deserves a spot on the 2016 national ticket. If Obama loses re-election, the media will relentlessly blame it on white racism, and blacks in 2016 will demand a black candidate to fight the scourge of anti-black feelings.

Even if blacks are rebuffed by the Democrats in the 2016 nominating process, they aren’t going to vote Republican in the fall. But without a black on the ballot, they won’t show up to vote in quite the huge numbers seen in 2008.

Conversely, if the Democrats pander to blacks in 2016, thus establishing a precedent of a permanent black spot on the national ticket, that will raise severe questions in the rest of this awkward alliance.

As the black sense of rightful ascendancy in the Democratic Party becomes more pronounced, Hispanics will be demanding that their burgeoning numbers mean that it’s now their turn. Meanwhile, more Asians will wonder why they are supporting an agglomeration dominated by blacks who don’t share their values. And white Democrats will wonder how exactly they can prosper in a party where everybody else is allowed to speak out in internal disputes as representatives of a legitimately aggrieved racial group, but they aren’t.

The GOP faces a daunting future of their own making. Then, again, so do the Democrats. All Democrats should be helpfully assisted to confront this.

Of course, practically no Republican tried to implement this strategy, but it is clearly happening anyway among Democrats: black megalomania and white Democrats’ myth-making combine to privilege blacks as the moral core of the Democratic Party. Which would be fine for the Democrats, except that blacks tend to behave badly far more often than any other group.

So, Democrats have self-inflicted this Sailer Strategy Supplement on themselves.

 
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  1. Blacks behaving badly? I’m gonna need to see some evidence.

    • Replies: @uman
    @ganderson

    Lol

    , @tyrone
    @ganderson

    Take a gander at the crime statistics son.

    Replies: @Ganderson

    , @ziggurat
    @ganderson

    "Blacks Behaving Badly". Wasn't their a TV show like that a few years ago?

    Replies: @Oswald Spengler

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @ganderson

    BLM defaced the Veterans Memorial in DC. You know it was BLM because the grammar is wrong.

    https://media.thedonald.win/thedonald/post/qVpdpSUO.jpeg

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Nancy Pelosi's Latina Maid
    @ganderson


    "Blacks behaving badly? I’m gonna need to see some evidence."
     
    Yesterday a reporter asking one of the black protesters in L.A. what she hoped to accomplish: "I want the cops to stop racial profiling and bring fair treatment to the black community."

    This was on the left side of the split screen. At the same time, on the right was a closeup of looters pouring out of a CVS. 100% black people.

  2. anon[145] • Disclaimer says:

    Communist police state is trying to deflect blame from the FBI’s antifa and blacks. Now they are just outright lying, falsely claiming somehow “white supremacists” are behind it all. We have video and picture evidence, but suddenly the police state is saying that people didn’t actually see what they thought they saw.

    MN chief of police just said that many of the arrests are white nationalists who are coming to MN to destroy the city. Just my opinion, but I think this was planned. All of it.

    — Regina Marston for Congress CA 42 in 2022 (@Marston4ca42) May 30, 2020

    Q: In Animal Farm, why does Napoleon blame Snowball for the fall of the windmill when it had actually been destroyed in a storm?

    A: Napoleon’s purpose is to demonize Snowball as much as he possibly can. He can use Snowball as the scapegoat for everything that goes wrong on the farm. In so doing, he can present himself as a foil to Snowball’s evil. The gullible and unintelligent animals would, therefore, be convinced that he is truly their protector, acting in their best interests.

    https://www.enotes.com/homework-help/animal-farm-why-napoleon-blame-snowball-fall-626412

    • Replies: @botazefa
    @anon

    Great posting.

  3. Of course, practically no Republican tried to implement this strategy

    Well, that’s in no small part because the Republicans started out as the “black party” themselves. Indeed, that was Stephen Douglas’s main tactic in his debate with Lincoln: to heap abuse on Lincoln’s “Black Republicans” and insinuate that they wanted to have Negroes consorting with white women.

    The fact is that both parties have claimed the moral high ground by trying to outdo each other as to which treated blacks better. The Republicans did it in the 1860s; the Democrats did it in the 1960s. Neither party is going to call the other out for being too pro-black; to the contrary, all you hear is incessant pandering to blacks.

    When the Republicans lost to Obama, the first thing they did was name Michael Steele RNC Chairman. Trump, who got elected by the disenfranchised white working class, has been bragging incessantly about what he’s done for the black unemployment rate.

    None of this will end unless there is an explicitly pro-white third party that makes a successful challenge to the Democrat-Republican flim-flam…

  4. @ganderson
    Blacks behaving badly? I'm gonna need to see some evidence.

    Replies: @uman, @tyrone, @ziggurat, @Hypnotoad666, @Nancy Pelosi's Latina Maid

    Lol

  5. anonymous[884] • Disclaimer says:

    The “Cool, Hip, and Multicultural” worship blacks and excuse if not condone black violence. The dominant contemporary thought is that misbehavior by either whites or blacks is the fault of whites, and whites should be judged ever more harshly with each example of it. I don’t see that as changing within the next several generations.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @anonymous

    This is exactly right. Not only are whites nearly a minority in the USA (in the next few years, if not already) but the majority of whites get up every morning, look in the mirror and recite "I Hate White People" such is their complete indoctrination.

    The Republican Party's fate is sealed, it was sealed a long time ago, and personally I'm looking forward to what comes next. It won't be pretty, but if you've a perverse mindset it might be fun.

  6. Hillary did her best to implement this strategy by making the 2016 Democrat convention be the “Black Lives Matter” convention, even after all the bloodshed BLM had received credit for.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Jim Given

    It's almost never remarked or even remembered how insane Hillary's strategy was: e.g., bringing would be cop killer Mike Brown's mother on stage at the Democratic National Convention.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @anon, @Buffalo Joe, @Marty T

  7. The irony of course is that the Democrats are working against black self interest by supporting massive immigration.

    • Agree: Joseph Doaks
    • Replies: @Currahee
    @Larry, San Francisco

    The employment issue little concerns blacks. As Steve once said (I parphrase): " the majority of blacks are either not working or working for the government, or both."

    , @Mr McKenna
    @Larry, San Francisco

    Luckily for the Dems, blacks aren't particularly sophisticated voters so as long as they offer the right sounds (and 'optics') the Dems can continue sticking knives in blacks' backs and they won't pay a price.

    The people who pull the strings are smart and most of all wealthy, and you can be sure they'll get what they want in every particular.

  8. anon[225] • Disclaimer says:

    Hmm, funny thinking; but reality seems very different. The vibe I get by reading post-Covid commentariat, is Republicans don’t care if people live or die. Democrats at least do some tut-tutting. Plenty of Republicans seem to be in a shock and are dazed that the Federal government is in a meltdown. Just what do you think will happen to national psyche if we have 1000 dead per day till Labor day and beyond and 17% unemployment on top of it?

    • Replies: @anon
    @anon

    That was always my worst fear with Covid-19, not the death toll by itself but the loss of government legitimacy if it were seen to do nothing in the wake of it. That's just what happened; government at the highest levels tried to sweep the whole thing under the rug. More often than you might think, governments lose legitimacy through inaction rather than inaction. The colonists fought King George because they thought he was indifferent to their concerns. French peasants overthrew their king for the same reason.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @bomag, @TomSchmidt

    , @XYZ (no Mr.)
    @anon

    And half of American Wuhan virus deaths are concentrated in a narrow coastal region stretching from Massachusetts to New Jersey. Not exactly MAGA central as most of these areas are run by Democrats. So as the Democrats continue to tut-tut while accomplishing nothing, and continue to ruin their local economies, lots of Republican states are increasingly open for business with no issues...I'm still waiting for everyone in Georgia to croak due to the Wuhan virus. It's been a while now.

    The problem is it's a very bad look to most in flyover country when it becomes increasingly apparent that coastal Democrats are actually wishing increased deaths in conservative states that reopen. With twitter it's going to be really, really hard to hide that attitude, so I'm not convinced by your assertions it's apparent to everyone Democrats care more about people. They only care more about certain types of people. And that's pretty obvious to everybody.

    , @Johnnie Tumbleweed
    @anon

    Right! The hell with science, data, and reality in general! Just stay home, wear a mask, and watch Brian Stelter!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  9. @Jim Given
    Hillary did her best to implement this strategy by making the 2016 Democrat convention be the "Black Lives Matter" convention, even after all the bloodshed BLM had received credit for.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    It’s almost never remarked or even remembered how insane Hillary’s strategy was: e.g., bringing would be cop killer Mike Brown’s mother on stage at the Democratic National Convention.

    • Replies: @Dr. X
    @Steve Sailer

    Yet she still won the popular vote...

    , @anon
    @Steve Sailer

    Attempted or did I miss something? Here's how they're affirming Coalition of the Fringes these days:

    https://twitter.com/andreaajas/status/1266009896396509188

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve, I am suprised Hillary didn't have the Dallas police assassin's body on stage in an open coffin. She blamed white Americans for his attack on police that killed five cops and received no push back from the left MSM.

    , @Marty T
    @Steve Sailer

    She still came very, very close to winning.

    Trump should find a way to appeal to Hispanics and Asians at the expense of blacks. But he won't because blacks are loud and overrepresented as celebrities. They're in your face.

    Instead Trump brags about how many people he's let out of prison.

    But the riots may force Trump to use the crime issue for good, and it may be his only shot.

  10. With Fightin’ Joe Biden at the helm (“he’s no malarkey!”) the Dems are already the Black Party.

    Joe tells ’em who to vote for and by god, if they’re really black, it better be for him.

    A Democrat micro-strategist friend of mine had an elaborate theory as to why Black Joe needed another POC on his ticket, i.e. Stacy Abrams. His theory rested on Dem electoral politics absolutely needing GA in November. The only way to secure that strategic necessity was Abrams, according to him. To ensure the black voters turn out.

    All the rest of the states, voting blocs, etc. were irrelevant in this analysis.

    Now loyal voting blocs are always helpful in politics. But if usually shaky black voter turnout is so absolutely necessary, then the Dems have already put all of their eggs in one shaky basket with that.

    Biden isn’t Obama, and Abrams isn’t Oprah. These rioters and looters aren’t exactly sending a message of racial harmony either. Socialist Dem politicians don’t appear to solve any racial or politce problems. Who will notice?

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Muggles


    Biden isn’t Obama, and Abrams isn’t Oprah. These rioters and looters aren’t exactly sending a message of racial harmony either.
     
    I agree. Joe Biden's chances are being diminished by the "protests".
  11. @Larry, San Francisco
    The irony of course is that the Democrats are working against black self interest by supporting massive immigration.

    Replies: @Currahee, @Mr McKenna

    The employment issue little concerns blacks. As Steve once said (I parphrase): ” the majority of blacks are either not working or working for the government, or both.”

  12. The good news for the GOP about black voters: it really can’t get much worse than 2008. McCain ran as gingerly as imaginable on topics even remotely related to race, and still lost 95-4 among blacks. …

    I learned from being a minority in an inner-city school and later in the Air Force that pandering to or showing too much deference to the African Americans around me only earned their contempt. When I talked smack on par with them and actually treated them as equals, things went much better for me. In that respect, Trump’s approach almost certainly earns him a lot more respect among African Americans than any prior attempts by the Repubes.

    • Replies: @botazefa
    @The Alarmist


    Americans around me only earned their contempt. When I talked smack on par with them and actually treated them as equals, things went much better for me.
     
    You mean, when you condescended to them, obviously.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

  13. @Steve Sailer
    @Jim Given

    It's almost never remarked or even remembered how insane Hillary's strategy was: e.g., bringing would be cop killer Mike Brown's mother on stage at the Democratic National Convention.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @anon, @Buffalo Joe, @Marty T

    Yet she still won the popular vote…

  14. @Steve Sailer
    @Jim Given

    It's almost never remarked or even remembered how insane Hillary's strategy was: e.g., bringing would be cop killer Mike Brown's mother on stage at the Democratic National Convention.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @anon, @Buffalo Joe, @Marty T

    Attempted or did I miss something? Here’s how they’re affirming Coalition of the Fringes these days:

  15. @ganderson
    Blacks behaving badly? I'm gonna need to see some evidence.

    Replies: @uman, @tyrone, @ziggurat, @Hypnotoad666, @Nancy Pelosi's Latina Maid

    Take a gander at the crime statistics son.

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @tyrone

    I will- hence my moniker.

  16. Respectfully point out that the Democratic Party is the rightful agent for the assertion of African-American racial interests

    The party of rum, riots, and reparations.

    …places as far apart as Detroit and Zimbabwe.

    Distance from Detroit to Harare: 8261.63 miles. A little less than Bangalore or Bangkok.

    I’ve mentioned before that when you are on the slave docks at Dakar, you are closer to Minneapolis than to its sister city of Bosaso, Somalia. Africa big, man, big! Oh, and the closest state is Maine. Really.

    Sure, it’s kind of retarded

    Wow. You could still say that as recently as ten years ago. Window-lickin’ good.

    What about the growing immigrant groups, the Hispanics and the Asians, who, together, cast 9.9 percent of the vote in 2008?
    …There simply are fundamental reasons why a low-income group will always be more attracted to the Democrats, with their proud tax-and-spend tradition.

    Reparations. Not from Americans, but specifically from Democrats. All the great American “crimes” Democrats blame America for are Democratic crimes.

    So, reparations to Cherokees for Andy Jackson’s ethnic cleansing. Reparations to Europe for Wilson’s adventurism. Reparations to Germany for FDR’s flattened cathedrals and to Japan for HST’s radiation poisining. Reparations to Koreans and Korean-Americans for mucking up their country. Reparations to both Vietnamese-Americans and to Vietnam for mucking up their country. Reparations to suburban Amercans for mucking up their (parents’) cities. Reparations to Mexican-Americans and Central Americans for, well, they must have done something, right?

    What do Republicans owe for? Okay, the Spanish-American War. Reparations to Spain come in the form of the return of Puerto Rico.

    • LOL: botazefa
    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Reg Cæsar

    "Reparations to Spain come in the form of the return of Puerto Rico."

    I bet the Spanish government would DEMAND we pay THEM to take PR back!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XThF3rSslM

    , @Dougfir
    @Reg Cæsar

    The party of reefer, riots, and reparations. Fify.

    , @Mr McKenna
    @Reg Cæsar


    I’ve mentioned before that when you are on the slave docks at Dakar, you are closer to Minneapolis than to its sister city of Bosaso, Somalia. Africa big, man, big!
     
    Thanks for mentioning it again. It borders on incredible!

    What do Republicans owe for? Okay, the Spanish-American War. Reparations to Spain come in the form of the return of Puerto Rico.
     
    We can dream, can't we? Independence at the very least, which PR peeps loved until they figured out that the bennies of being a US territory are much more Rico.

    Yesterday I was reading about the proposals to move all the Chinese from Hong Kong to London & the USA and someone suggested, since they're so virtuous and industrious, why not move them to PR where qualities like that are sorely needed?

    Replies: @Lurker, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Rob McX
    @Reg Cæsar

    Amazing distance stats. I couldn't believe them until I verified them myself. I thought you'd been inhaling too much smoke from burning police precincts.

  17. Of course, Trump pees in the punch bowl with his woebegone efforts to pander to black men, which keeps him from taking a hard law-and-order approach and instead go after Antifa. Boomer stupidity or is what’s left of his coalition so shot through right now that black men are actually decisive? What a hell of a trap for the first President to win with the Sailer Strategy to let himself get stuck in.

  18. @Reg Cæsar

    Respectfully point out that the Democratic Party is the rightful agent for the assertion of African-American racial interests
     
    The party of rum, riots, and reparations.

    ...places as far apart as Detroit and Zimbabwe.

     

    Distance from Detroit to Harare: 8261.63 miles. A little less than Bangalore or Bangkok.

    I've mentioned before that when you are on the slave docks at Dakar, you are closer to Minneapolis than to its sister city of Bosaso, Somalia. Africa big, man, big! Oh, and the closest state is Maine. Really.

    Sure, it’s kind of retarded...

     

    Wow. You could still say that as recently as ten years ago. Window-lickin' good.

    What about the growing immigrant groups, the Hispanics and the Asians, who, together, cast 9.9 percent of the vote in 2008?
    ...There simply are fundamental reasons why a low-income group will always be more attracted to the Democrats, with their proud tax-and-spend tradition.

     

    Reparations. Not from Americans, but specifically from Democrats. All the great American "crimes" Democrats blame America for are Democratic crimes.

    So, reparations to Cherokees for Andy Jackson's ethnic cleansing. Reparations to Europe for Wilson's adventurism. Reparations to Germany for FDR's flattened cathedrals and to Japan for HST's radiation poisining. Reparations to Koreans and Korean-Americans for mucking up their country. Reparations to both Vietnamese-Americans and to Vietnam for mucking up their country. Reparations to suburban Amercans for mucking up their (parents') cities. Reparations to Mexican-Americans and Central Americans for, well, they must have done something, right?

    What do Republicans owe for? Okay, the Spanish-American War. Reparations to Spain come in the form of the return of Puerto Rico.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Dougfir, @Mr McKenna, @Rob McX

    “Reparations to Spain come in the form of the return of Puerto Rico.”

    I bet the Spanish government would DEMAND we pay THEM to take PR back!

  19. B36 says:

    I never have understood why the Republicans don’t try harder to craft a campaign to pick apart the Coalition. Why aren’t they targeting Asians with the message that the Democrats are using quotas to keep their children out of university…because of their race? Why aren’t they targeting college age men who Dems say are all rapists and do not deserve the most basic due process? Why aren’t they targeting socially conservative Hispanics (among others) who do not approve of allowing male perverts to dress up as women and go into the girl’s locker room? Why aren’t they hammering away at working poor people that their jobs and futures are at risk due to the open borders championed by the Dems? And why aren’t they telling the wealthy gentry Dems in Silicon Valley and elsewhere, why, yes, yes, we agree, let’s raise taxes bigly on the rich?

    • Replies: @Jesse
    @B36

    The Democrats are doing an utterly brilliant job of picking apart the GOP coalition. Going after white people in general was making them more united. Going after white women specifically, divides and conquers. It also makes the difference between the anti whiteness of the left and right very hard to see in your immediate life. That's dragging white women to the Dems, because if both sides hate you, you might has well go for what benefits you and yours.

    The anti woke left is making the same mistake. Their screeching against Warren, and the deep seated mommy issues it showed, probably cost Sanders the nomination.

    , @MBlanc46
    @B36

    Because they “don’t see race”. Repubs are mostly white. Whites are not allowed to “see race”. And most whites play by the rules.

    , @botazefa
    @B36


    Why aren’t they targeting Asians with the message that the Democrats are using quotas to keep their children out of university…because of their race?
     
    Because average aren't competing with average asians for jobs. Average Whites are their competitor.

    Average blacks are competing with average El Salvadorans for jobs.

    Oh, wait - affirmative action gives average blacks the advantage over average other races. Right?
    , @anon
    @B36


    Why aren’t they targeting Asians with the message
     
    That's not how human nature works. People have evolved to pick winners, and the rise of diversity demographics means the democrats will soon be the permanent majority party (goodbye USA) -- the ultimate winners. If Asians sided with the GOP now, that would only ensure their later oppression at the hands of vengeful democrats. People don't tether themselves to sinking ships. Therefore, no argument will win over that demographic or any other demographic now or ever.

    But this wasn't always the case. It wasn't uncommon back in the day for some minorities and immigrants to be respectable republicans. Ronald Reagan in 1980 garnered an impressive 37% of the Hispanic vote and 14% of the black vote. He crushed Jimmy Carter, winning the popular vote by 9 points and over 90% of electoral college votes. At that time, many minorities had no problem going along with the strong horse. But as the GOP has demographically weakened, even while espousing the same policies, minorities have fled. Romney in 2012 got just 6% of the black vote and 27% of the Hispanic vote, even as his share of the white vote increased over Reagan's (the only reason he was at all competitive).

    1980 Presidential election GOP vote share by demographic: Asian -- Hispanic 37% Black 14%

    *landslide GOP victory

    2004 Presidential election GOP vote share by demographic: Asian 44 Hispanic 44 Black 11%

    *GOP victory

    2008 Presidential election GOP vote share by demographic: Asian 35 Hispanic 31 Black 4%

    *GOP loss

    2012 Presidential election GOP vote share by demographic: Asian 26 Hispanic 27 Black 6%

    *GOP loss

    2016 Presidential election GOP vote share by demographic: Asian 29 Hispanic 29 Black 8%

    *GOP electoral college victory; lost the popular vote by millions.

    This can't be solely a relic of GOP immigration policies because illegal immigrants are mostly Hispanic. As the demographics have shifted in favor of the democrats, minorities have fled to the safety of the new boss in town.
     
    A similar phenomenon underpins Stockholm syndrome: captives come to identify with oppressors and work for their interests in order to maximize their chances of survival. In fact, I'm predicting a swift decline in the GOP post 2020, faster than people think, as suburban whites flee the republican party and start pandering to the new boss in town. This has already happened with NeverTrump. And don't kid yourself, they were merely signalling their loyalty to the new democrat party bosses in order to ease their transition over to the other side (most have become democrats or left the GOP by now). That wasn't about decorum or politics.
  20. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    Hmm, funny thinking; but reality seems very different. The vibe I get by reading post-Covid commentariat, is Republicans don't care if people live or die. Democrats at least do some tut-tutting. Plenty of Republicans seem to be in a shock and are dazed that the Federal government is in a meltdown. Just what do you think will happen to national psyche if we have 1000 dead per day till Labor day and beyond and 17% unemployment on top of it?

    Replies: @anon, @XYZ (no Mr.), @Johnnie Tumbleweed

    That was always my worst fear with Covid-19, not the death toll by itself but the loss of government legitimacy if it were seen to do nothing in the wake of it. That’s just what happened; government at the highest levels tried to sweep the whole thing under the rug. More often than you might think, governments lose legitimacy through inaction rather than inaction. The colonists fought King George because they thought he was indifferent to their concerns. French peasants overthrew their king for the same reason.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @anon


    The colonists fought King George because they thought he was indifferent to their concerns.
     
    They fought him because he was squeezing the life blood out of the colonial economy.

    Replies: @Observator

    , @bomag
    @anon


    ...but the loss of government legitimacy if it were seen to do nothing in the wake of it
     
    Come on, the gov't reliably does nothing or botches the various crises that come around while being a bastion of the overpriced and overpaid.
    , @TomSchmidt
    @anon

    French peasants overthrew their king for the same reason.

    Where did you get that idea? Here's a list of the 10 most important French Revolutionary leaders.
    https://learnodo-newtonic.com/french-revolution-leaders

    Check the careers on them. An abbot; two or three noblemen; journalist; lawyer; leaders of bourgeois organizations. Not a peasant amongst them.

    The French Revolution was a revolt of the bourgeois against the Church and nobility. When they had power, they knew what to do with the peasants who clung to Faith: drown them en masse.

    https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jean-Baptiste-Carrier

  21. @anon
    Hmm, funny thinking; but reality seems very different. The vibe I get by reading post-Covid commentariat, is Republicans don't care if people live or die. Democrats at least do some tut-tutting. Plenty of Republicans seem to be in a shock and are dazed that the Federal government is in a meltdown. Just what do you think will happen to national psyche if we have 1000 dead per day till Labor day and beyond and 17% unemployment on top of it?

    Replies: @anon, @XYZ (no Mr.), @Johnnie Tumbleweed

    And half of American Wuhan virus deaths are concentrated in a narrow coastal region stretching from Massachusetts to New Jersey. Not exactly MAGA central as most of these areas are run by Democrats. So as the Democrats continue to tut-tut while accomplishing nothing, and continue to ruin their local economies, lots of Republican states are increasingly open for business with no issues…I’m still waiting for everyone in Georgia to croak due to the Wuhan virus. It’s been a while now.

    The problem is it’s a very bad look to most in flyover country when it becomes increasingly apparent that coastal Democrats are actually wishing increased deaths in conservative states that reopen. With twitter it’s going to be really, really hard to hide that attitude, so I’m not convinced by your assertions it’s apparent to everyone Democrats care more about people. They only care more about certain types of people. And that’s pretty obvious to everybody.

    • Agree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
  22. Anonymous[257] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve,

    You are heading down the wrong path on this one. Blacks are a natural fit for a citizenist, anti-immigration platform, pro-American, hire American, buy American platform.

    • Replies: @XYZ (no Mr.)
    @Anonymous

    Is that true? I would say voting patterns don't historically show that, but to be fair, the media blitz against President Trump has been so intense and so unceasing that 2016 seems like a lifetime ago. And for the last 20+ years both parties have had elites that were very globalist: pro-immigration and aggressively for free trade. Trump really is an outlier for Republicans.

    So perhaps if our national media wasn't continuous outright diversity propaganda the Republican party could carve out 25 to 30 percent of the black vote routinely. Unlike many here I don't consider my fellow black Americans as irredeemable, many are fine people, and I served with many excellent ones. But there are plenty of black racists (not a small percentage at all in the black community, no error there) and it would take decades of culture war to ever get the parties close to racial parity.

    Honestly, it would probably be easier to take over the Democratic Party and convert it to an immigration restriction party than convince many black Americans to vote Republican.

    , @bomag
    @Anonymous


    Blacks are a natural fit for...
     
    Maybe individually. But their political leadership has gone all-in with Globohomo.
    , @dr kill
    @Anonymous

    I'm with you here.

  23. @Reg Cæsar

    Respectfully point out that the Democratic Party is the rightful agent for the assertion of African-American racial interests
     
    The party of rum, riots, and reparations.

    ...places as far apart as Detroit and Zimbabwe.

     

    Distance from Detroit to Harare: 8261.63 miles. A little less than Bangalore or Bangkok.

    I've mentioned before that when you are on the slave docks at Dakar, you are closer to Minneapolis than to its sister city of Bosaso, Somalia. Africa big, man, big! Oh, and the closest state is Maine. Really.

    Sure, it’s kind of retarded...

     

    Wow. You could still say that as recently as ten years ago. Window-lickin' good.

    What about the growing immigrant groups, the Hispanics and the Asians, who, together, cast 9.9 percent of the vote in 2008?
    ...There simply are fundamental reasons why a low-income group will always be more attracted to the Democrats, with their proud tax-and-spend tradition.

     

    Reparations. Not from Americans, but specifically from Democrats. All the great American "crimes" Democrats blame America for are Democratic crimes.

    So, reparations to Cherokees for Andy Jackson's ethnic cleansing. Reparations to Europe for Wilson's adventurism. Reparations to Germany for FDR's flattened cathedrals and to Japan for HST's radiation poisining. Reparations to Koreans and Korean-Americans for mucking up their country. Reparations to both Vietnamese-Americans and to Vietnam for mucking up their country. Reparations to suburban Amercans for mucking up their (parents') cities. Reparations to Mexican-Americans and Central Americans for, well, they must have done something, right?

    What do Republicans owe for? Okay, the Spanish-American War. Reparations to Spain come in the form of the return of Puerto Rico.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Dougfir, @Mr McKenna, @Rob McX

    The party of reefer, riots, and reparations. Fify.

  24. https://www.postandcourier.com/news/2-men-in-maga-hats-cornered-punched-at-black-lives-matter-protest-in-charleston/article_8b98e602-a2b9-11ea-b7b1-d3db6fa8c5f5.html

    Hate Crimes today

  25. • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @216

    Wasn't the LE AR-15/M4 rifle designed with shorter barrel and a collapsible butt stock so you could faciliate easy entry and exit from a vehicle? So why didn't the police grab their ARs and take them with them?

    https://large.shootingsportsmedia.com/463243.jpg

  26. @anon
    Hmm, funny thinking; but reality seems very different. The vibe I get by reading post-Covid commentariat, is Republicans don't care if people live or die. Democrats at least do some tut-tutting. Plenty of Republicans seem to be in a shock and are dazed that the Federal government is in a meltdown. Just what do you think will happen to national psyche if we have 1000 dead per day till Labor day and beyond and 17% unemployment on top of it?

    Replies: @anon, @XYZ (no Mr.), @Johnnie Tumbleweed

    Right! The hell with science, data, and reality in general! Just stay home, wear a mask, and watch Brian Stelter!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Johnnie Tumbleweed


    Right! The hell with science, data, and reality in general! Just stay home, wear a mask, and watch Brian Stelter!

     

    I'd prefer Brian Setzer.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-FlCfAjx1s

    Replies: @hhsiii

  27. @B36
    I never have understood why the Republicans don't try harder to craft a campaign to pick apart the Coalition. Why aren't they targeting Asians with the message that the Democrats are using quotas to keep their children out of university...because of their race? Why aren't they targeting college age men who Dems say are all rapists and do not deserve the most basic due process? Why aren't they targeting socially conservative Hispanics (among others) who do not approve of allowing male perverts to dress up as women and go into the girl's locker room? Why aren't they hammering away at working poor people that their jobs and futures are at risk due to the open borders championed by the Dems? And why aren't they telling the wealthy gentry Dems in Silicon Valley and elsewhere, why, yes, yes, we agree, let's raise taxes bigly on the rich?

    Replies: @Jesse, @MBlanc46, @botazefa, @anon

    The Democrats are doing an utterly brilliant job of picking apart the GOP coalition. Going after white people in general was making them more united. Going after white women specifically, divides and conquers. It also makes the difference between the anti whiteness of the left and right very hard to see in your immediate life. That’s dragging white women to the Dems, because if both sides hate you, you might has well go for what benefits you and yours.

    The anti woke left is making the same mistake. Their screeching against Warren, and the deep seated mommy issues it showed, probably cost Sanders the nomination.

  28. @anonymous
    The "Cool, Hip, and Multicultural" worship blacks and excuse if not condone black violence. The dominant contemporary thought is that misbehavior by either whites or blacks is the fault of whites, and whites should be judged ever more harshly with each example of it. I don't see that as changing within the next several generations.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

    This is exactly right. Not only are whites nearly a minority in the USA (in the next few years, if not already) but the majority of whites get up every morning, look in the mirror and recite “I Hate White People” such is their complete indoctrination.

    The Republican Party’s fate is sealed, it was sealed a long time ago, and personally I’m looking forward to what comes next. It won’t be pretty, but if you’ve a perverse mindset it might be fun.

  29. @Larry, San Francisco
    The irony of course is that the Democrats are working against black self interest by supporting massive immigration.

    Replies: @Currahee, @Mr McKenna

    Luckily for the Dems, blacks aren’t particularly sophisticated voters so as long as they offer the right sounds (and ‘optics’) the Dems can continue sticking knives in blacks’ backs and they won’t pay a price.

    The people who pull the strings are smart and most of all wealthy, and you can be sure they’ll get what they want in every particular.

  30. @Reg Cæsar

    Respectfully point out that the Democratic Party is the rightful agent for the assertion of African-American racial interests
     
    The party of rum, riots, and reparations.

    ...places as far apart as Detroit and Zimbabwe.

     

    Distance from Detroit to Harare: 8261.63 miles. A little less than Bangalore or Bangkok.

    I've mentioned before that when you are on the slave docks at Dakar, you are closer to Minneapolis than to its sister city of Bosaso, Somalia. Africa big, man, big! Oh, and the closest state is Maine. Really.

    Sure, it’s kind of retarded...

     

    Wow. You could still say that as recently as ten years ago. Window-lickin' good.

    What about the growing immigrant groups, the Hispanics and the Asians, who, together, cast 9.9 percent of the vote in 2008?
    ...There simply are fundamental reasons why a low-income group will always be more attracted to the Democrats, with their proud tax-and-spend tradition.

     

    Reparations. Not from Americans, but specifically from Democrats. All the great American "crimes" Democrats blame America for are Democratic crimes.

    So, reparations to Cherokees for Andy Jackson's ethnic cleansing. Reparations to Europe for Wilson's adventurism. Reparations to Germany for FDR's flattened cathedrals and to Japan for HST's radiation poisining. Reparations to Koreans and Korean-Americans for mucking up their country. Reparations to both Vietnamese-Americans and to Vietnam for mucking up their country. Reparations to suburban Amercans for mucking up their (parents') cities. Reparations to Mexican-Americans and Central Americans for, well, they must have done something, right?

    What do Republicans owe for? Okay, the Spanish-American War. Reparations to Spain come in the form of the return of Puerto Rico.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Dougfir, @Mr McKenna, @Rob McX

    I’ve mentioned before that when you are on the slave docks at Dakar, you are closer to Minneapolis than to its sister city of Bosaso, Somalia. Africa big, man, big!

    Thanks for mentioning it again. It borders on incredible!

    What do Republicans owe for? Okay, the Spanish-American War. Reparations to Spain come in the form of the return of Puerto Rico.

    We can dream, can’t we? Independence at the very least, which PR peeps loved until they figured out that the bennies of being a US territory are much more Rico.

    Yesterday I was reading about the proposals to move all the Chinese from Hong Kong to London & the USA and someone suggested, since they’re so virtuous and industrious, why not move them to PR where qualities like that are sorely needed?

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Mr McKenna


    Yesterday I was reading about the proposals to move all the Chinese from Hong Kong to London & the USA and someone suggested, since they’re so virtuous and industrious, why not move them to PR where qualities like that are sorely needed?
     
    I was reading a thread earlier where deluded British boomer cuckservatives were getting themselves all excited at the prospect. Next time I visit I'll be suggesting that the HK Chinese can go to South Africa and we'll take the whites from there.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Mr McKenna



    Africa big, man, big!

     

    Thanks for mentioning it again. It borders on incredible!
     
    The Mercator projection has been criticized for inflating the size of imperial white powers such as Greenland and Siberia. I was thinking, never mind Gall-Peters, which projection goes to the opposite extreme, making our part of the world look tiny and the "South" gigantic?




    The Portogee who runs the General Knowledge channel on YouTube has just put up a nice description of the array of projections available, after he had looked at more than 250. For our purposes, I think an upsidedown stereographic planisphere would make the point that we're outnumbered the clearest.

    The Lambert Conformal Conic, also turned upside-down, would work, too. The Behrmann is equal-area, but the northern countries are squashed flat. Now that would be telling set on its head!



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAzy4S4EOwc&t=0m49s

    Replies: @hhsiii

  31. The fact is that both parties have claimed the moral high ground by trying to outdo each other as to which treated blacks better. The Republicans did it in the 1860s; the Democrats did it in the 1960s.

    The Democrats did it in the 1860s. And the 1850s. And before that:

    “Never before has the black race of Central Africa, from the dawn of history to the present day, attained a condition so civilized and so improved, not only physically, but morally and intellectually.”– John C. Calhoun*

    The Southern Argument for Slavery

    https://fee.org/articles/ten-reasons-not-to-abolish-slavery/

    *after whom a lake on Minneapolis’s now fiery Lake St was named!

  32. anon[817] • Disclaimer says:

    The conventional wisdom is that this nation continues to live with the consequences of our original sin, slavery.
    If fact we are now living with the consequences of the Confederate defeat. The defeat of the Confederacy was the defeat of practical reason in politics and spelled the triumph of Abolitionist/progressive/moral crusade ideology.
    Carried to its extreme it is a religious cult that replaces Christianity in the psychological foundation of modern Americans. Any criticism of blacks is a religious blasphemy.
    How impervious to reason and susceptible to brainwashing are liberals? Just look at any cult – Jonestown, Rajneesies, etc.

    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
    @anon

    Had the South been allowed to secede, the African problem could have been “quarantined” to the South and the rest of America would have been better off. The great migration to the cities of the North never would have happened.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @B36

  33. Trump’s strategy in the last election seemed to be to keep blacks indifferent enough in places like Detroit to stay home election night. This may only work in a Trump versus Hillary situation and is not generally applicable.

    The Republican strategist Grover Norquist suggested the successful strategy for Republicans should be a “leave us alone” coalition. Most blacks with their desire for government welfare, government jobs and government enforced affirmative action would not be a part of this coalition.

    A major component of this coalition would be people who just want to run their businesses or pursue their careers and use the money they make to take care of themselves and their families.

    This would include many landlords and small businessmen. Obviously, businesses looking for special favors from the government would not be part of this. A major goal of Democrats is to eliminate these groups. Extending coronavirus shutdowns beyond what is needed for public health reasons is being purposely pursued to harm these groups. Encouraging rioting that leads to looting while the police are ordered to stand by is also being used to harm these groups. Republicans should oppose both the extended lockdowns and the rioting and take a “law and order” stance in election campaigns.

  34. Just don’t understand the idea of the Democratic Party becoming the Black Party. They’re like 12% of the total population in the US and not all of them vote. Rough calculations say that black voters consist of 5% of the total population in the US. White voters are more like 17% of the total population in the US. 1:3 votes is a losing proposition, without considering the remaining 14% of the voting population, mostly Asian and some Latinos. Asians and whites carry the Dems, yet they are actively trying to alienate them. I would put an Asian candidate on the ticket. Is there an up and coming Asian candidate in California, Hawaii, Alaska or Washington?

    BTW. Picking a candidate purely based on race is stupid, but Thomas Wolfe explained it very well. If you introduce diversity to a voting population, the only discussions you get are tribal.

  35. @Steve Sailer
    @Jim Given

    It's almost never remarked or even remembered how insane Hillary's strategy was: e.g., bringing would be cop killer Mike Brown's mother on stage at the Democratic National Convention.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @anon, @Buffalo Joe, @Marty T

    Steve, I am suprised Hillary didn’t have the Dallas police assassin’s body on stage in an open coffin. She blamed white Americans for his attack on police that killed five cops and received no push back from the left MSM.

  36. Kind of a “Trump luck” corollary?

  37. @anon
    @anon

    That was always my worst fear with Covid-19, not the death toll by itself but the loss of government legitimacy if it were seen to do nothing in the wake of it. That's just what happened; government at the highest levels tried to sweep the whole thing under the rug. More often than you might think, governments lose legitimacy through inaction rather than inaction. The colonists fought King George because they thought he was indifferent to their concerns. French peasants overthrew their king for the same reason.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @bomag, @TomSchmidt

    The colonists fought King George because they thought he was indifferent to their concerns.

    They fought him because he was squeezing the life blood out of the colonial economy.

    • Replies: @Observator
    @Hibernian

    They fought King George because his ministers saw the time had come to end the tax exemptions enjoyed by the American colonies since they were nationalized in 1690. This came after Britain nearly bankrupted the Exchequer fighting the French and Indian War, which was largely about protecting the American colonies from French and Indian attack - which usually came in retaliation for Americans trespassing on their land and trying to seize it for themselves.

    James Otis coined the famed manifesto “taxation without representation is tyranny” but an obvious argument could be made that there were precious few Britons in the home country, let alone people anywhere on earth in the 1700s, whose interests were represented by government. Today it seems more like the deceptive slogan of an insurrectionary mercantile class which did not consider itself bound to obey the laws that applied to all other Englishmen.

    Our great misfortune is that the American colonies gained their independence from Britain a little too soon. If self-government had come a bit later, say in the mid-1800s, we might have had the influence of collectivism, majoritarianism, Chartism, and Benthamism, rather than the austere views of the aristocrats’ patron saint, John Locke. Locke interpreted “liberty” from the viewpoint of the moneyed class, its members’ priority being the conservation and expansion of their political power and economic privilege.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @martin_2

  38. Anonymous[128] • Disclaimer says:

    David Mamet wrote that gun control advocacy is an attempt to propitiate the criminal. Similar to Steve observing that many (Democrat or otherwise) voted for Obama just for him to be a good example to black people. The principle could travel w/ other issues of metropolitan, post-union/post-blue-collar left-liberal partisanship, short of accepting violent transgression but still rejecting subtler contours of order: immigration/colonization, transgender bathrooms, of course affirmative action. Once you can’t crack down on a society’s obvious enemies the target remaining is regular taxpayers, as in Michigan

  39. Anonymous[990] • Disclaimer says:

    Which would be fine for the Democrats, except that blacks tend to behave badly far more often than any other group.

    I sent Steve an angry email exactly one month ago pointing out that his own commenters seem to possess poorer native judgment than members of better-educated groups and need stricter moral guidance from society. I told him I thought she should apologize to the people of New Orleans, since he refuses to apply the same standard of “telling the hard truth” to his own comment section and their coronavirus denial, which has real consequences when people believe it and refuse to social distance. I had no idea that another wave of BLM tantrums would soon break out and give him a chance to double down.

  40. BLM may demand black from “Sleepy Joe” Bigmouth.

    He’s dumb enough.

    You cannot square a multipolar Mos Eisley.

    The democrats crazy quilt will begin to unravel soon.

  41. @Anonymous
    Steve,

    You are heading down the wrong path on this one. Blacks are a natural fit for a citizenist, anti-immigration platform, pro-American, hire American, buy American platform.

    Replies: @XYZ (no Mr.), @bomag, @dr kill

    Is that true? I would say voting patterns don’t historically show that, but to be fair, the media blitz against President Trump has been so intense and so unceasing that 2016 seems like a lifetime ago. And for the last 20+ years both parties have had elites that were very globalist: pro-immigration and aggressively for free trade. Trump really is an outlier for Republicans.

    So perhaps if our national media wasn’t continuous outright diversity propaganda the Republican party could carve out 25 to 30 percent of the black vote routinely. Unlike many here I don’t consider my fellow black Americans as irredeemable, many are fine people, and I served with many excellent ones. But there are plenty of black racists (not a small percentage at all in the black community, no error there) and it would take decades of culture war to ever get the parties close to racial parity.

    Honestly, it would probably be easier to take over the Democratic Party and convert it to an immigration restriction party than convince many black Americans to vote Republican.

  42. @216
    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1266884767913521155

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    Wasn’t the LE AR-15/M4 rifle designed with shorter barrel and a collapsible butt stock so you could faciliate easy entry and exit from a vehicle? So why didn’t the police grab their ARs and take them with them?

  43. @B36
    I never have understood why the Republicans don't try harder to craft a campaign to pick apart the Coalition. Why aren't they targeting Asians with the message that the Democrats are using quotas to keep their children out of university...because of their race? Why aren't they targeting college age men who Dems say are all rapists and do not deserve the most basic due process? Why aren't they targeting socially conservative Hispanics (among others) who do not approve of allowing male perverts to dress up as women and go into the girl's locker room? Why aren't they hammering away at working poor people that their jobs and futures are at risk due to the open borders championed by the Dems? And why aren't they telling the wealthy gentry Dems in Silicon Valley and elsewhere, why, yes, yes, we agree, let's raise taxes bigly on the rich?

    Replies: @Jesse, @MBlanc46, @botazefa, @anon

    Because they “don’t see race”. Repubs are mostly white. Whites are not allowed to “see race”. And most whites play by the rules.

  44. Just don’t understand the idea of the Democratic Party becoming the Black Party. They’re like 12% of the total population in the US and not all of them vote.

    It’s a great question, but I think the answer is pretty simple.

    The strategy is not to appeal directly to the black population for its raw numbers, which, as you observe, are pretty low. Rather, the strategy is to appeal to whites who think they are morally superior to other whites by professing their commitment to “diversity” and “inclusion” and “anti-racism.”

    I noticed this with advertising. Why are Negroes and mulattoes so overrepresented in advertising when they are, statistically speaking, the poorest 13% of the population?? The answer is that the advertiser is attempting to appeal to sense of moral superiority of rich, liberal whites — not directly to black consumers.

    • Agree: Joseph Doaks
    • Replies: @Goddard
    @Dr. X

    Yes.

  45. Anonymous[148] • Disclaimer says:

    I remember that post. Still a very sound advice. Naturally, ignored by cucks of all shade because they would rather lose than appear rasiss.

  46. @Mr McKenna
    @Reg Cæsar


    I’ve mentioned before that when you are on the slave docks at Dakar, you are closer to Minneapolis than to its sister city of Bosaso, Somalia. Africa big, man, big!
     
    Thanks for mentioning it again. It borders on incredible!

    What do Republicans owe for? Okay, the Spanish-American War. Reparations to Spain come in the form of the return of Puerto Rico.
     
    We can dream, can't we? Independence at the very least, which PR peeps loved until they figured out that the bennies of being a US territory are much more Rico.

    Yesterday I was reading about the proposals to move all the Chinese from Hong Kong to London & the USA and someone suggested, since they're so virtuous and industrious, why not move them to PR where qualities like that are sorely needed?

    Replies: @Lurker, @Reg Cæsar

    Yesterday I was reading about the proposals to move all the Chinese from Hong Kong to London & the USA and someone suggested, since they’re so virtuous and industrious, why not move them to PR where qualities like that are sorely needed?

    I was reading a thread earlier where deluded British boomer cuckservatives were getting themselves all excited at the prospect. Next time I visit I’ll be suggesting that the HK Chinese can go to South Africa and we’ll take the whites from there.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
  47. @Johnnie Tumbleweed
    @anon

    Right! The hell with science, data, and reality in general! Just stay home, wear a mask, and watch Brian Stelter!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Right! The hell with science, data, and reality in general! Just stay home, wear a mask, and watch Brian Stelter!

    I’d prefer Brian Setzer.

    • Replies: @hhsiii
    @Reg Cæsar

    I was once on an overnight train from Poltsk through Minsk to Moscow with my wife. Around 2010 or so. We shared a compartment with a Russian rock band. The youngest member, a tattooed bassist, asked me: “Is Brian Setzer huge star in America?”

  48. @Reg Cæsar

    Respectfully point out that the Democratic Party is the rightful agent for the assertion of African-American racial interests
     
    The party of rum, riots, and reparations.

    ...places as far apart as Detroit and Zimbabwe.

     

    Distance from Detroit to Harare: 8261.63 miles. A little less than Bangalore or Bangkok.

    I've mentioned before that when you are on the slave docks at Dakar, you are closer to Minneapolis than to its sister city of Bosaso, Somalia. Africa big, man, big! Oh, and the closest state is Maine. Really.

    Sure, it’s kind of retarded...

     

    Wow. You could still say that as recently as ten years ago. Window-lickin' good.

    What about the growing immigrant groups, the Hispanics and the Asians, who, together, cast 9.9 percent of the vote in 2008?
    ...There simply are fundamental reasons why a low-income group will always be more attracted to the Democrats, with their proud tax-and-spend tradition.

     

    Reparations. Not from Americans, but specifically from Democrats. All the great American "crimes" Democrats blame America for are Democratic crimes.

    So, reparations to Cherokees for Andy Jackson's ethnic cleansing. Reparations to Europe for Wilson's adventurism. Reparations to Germany for FDR's flattened cathedrals and to Japan for HST's radiation poisining. Reparations to Koreans and Korean-Americans for mucking up their country. Reparations to both Vietnamese-Americans and to Vietnam for mucking up their country. Reparations to suburban Amercans for mucking up their (parents') cities. Reparations to Mexican-Americans and Central Americans for, well, they must have done something, right?

    What do Republicans owe for? Okay, the Spanish-American War. Reparations to Spain come in the form of the return of Puerto Rico.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Dougfir, @Mr McKenna, @Rob McX

    Amazing distance stats. I couldn’t believe them until I verified them myself. I thought you’d been inhaling too much smoke from burning police precincts.

  49. @Mr McKenna
    @Reg Cæsar


    I’ve mentioned before that when you are on the slave docks at Dakar, you are closer to Minneapolis than to its sister city of Bosaso, Somalia. Africa big, man, big!
     
    Thanks for mentioning it again. It borders on incredible!

    What do Republicans owe for? Okay, the Spanish-American War. Reparations to Spain come in the form of the return of Puerto Rico.
     
    We can dream, can't we? Independence at the very least, which PR peeps loved until they figured out that the bennies of being a US territory are much more Rico.

    Yesterday I was reading about the proposals to move all the Chinese from Hong Kong to London & the USA and someone suggested, since they're so virtuous and industrious, why not move them to PR where qualities like that are sorely needed?

    Replies: @Lurker, @Reg Cæsar

    Africa big, man, big!

    Thanks for mentioning it again. It borders on incredible!

    The Mercator projection has been criticized for inflating the size of imperial white powers such as Greenland and Siberia. I was thinking, never mind Gall-Peters, which projection goes to the opposite extreme, making our part of the world look tiny and the “South” gigantic?

    The Portogee who runs the General Knowledge channel on YouTube has just put up a nice description of the array of projections available, after he had looked at more than 250. For our purposes, I think an upsidedown stereographic planisphere would make the point that we’re outnumbered the clearest.

    The Lambert Conformal Conic, also turned upside-down, would work, too. The Behrmann is equal-area, but the northern countries are squashed flat. Now that would be telling set on its head!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAzy4S4EOwc&t=0m49s

    • Replies: @hhsiii
    @Reg Cæsar

    Maybe I’m wrong, but google search seems to suggest Dakar to Bosaso is 4483 air mikes, Dakar to Minneapolis 4800 some odd air miles. Missed it by THAT much...

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  50. @anon
    The conventional wisdom is that this nation continues to live with the consequences of our original sin, slavery.
    If fact we are now living with the consequences of the Confederate defeat. The defeat of the Confederacy was the defeat of practical reason in politics and spelled the triumph of Abolitionist/progressive/moral crusade ideology.
    Carried to its extreme it is a religious cult that replaces Christianity in the psychological foundation of modern Americans. Any criticism of blacks is a religious blasphemy.
    How impervious to reason and susceptible to brainwashing are liberals? Just look at any cult - Jonestown, Rajneesies, etc.

    Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy

    Had the South been allowed to secede, the African problem could have been “quarantined” to the South and the rest of America would have been better off. The great migration to the cities of the North never would have happened.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    But if they take in people from all over the world, wouldn't they let in Southern blacks too?

    Replies: @d.deaconesque

    , @B36
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    The 1619 Project has a better idea (even if they don't realize it): everyone would be better off today if Africans had never been brought to America. Black people would be living happily in their own culture in their own homeland and America, having avoided the sin of slavery, would be Good and...all White.

  51. Here’s what Biden is contemplating right now:

  52. Nice try, but it won’t work for two fundamental reasons:

    1. As others point out, the blacks are too small and poor a voting bloc to ever really take over a major party.

    2. There are no brilliant black strategists to make up for this, as you yourself pointed out before. If anything, black politicians are huge clowns, everyone from Maxine Waters to the now-retired John Conyers, which is saying something considering clowns like Schumer, Pelosi, and Trump.

    As a result, none of the other Democrats you mention are worried about the Black Caucus, they know they can just appease them with some cheap ObamaPhones and sentencing reforms. As the few black conservatives often say, the plantation Negroes are not leaving the Democrat plantation. Come election time, Biden will try to inflame them with the usual nonsense about Republicans wanting to “put them back in chains” and/or pick some token PoC VP, and they will try to raise the turnout from Hillary’s disastrous run that way.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Bumpkin

    Sure looks like blue state mayors and governors are burning down their cities by subscribing to The Narrative.

    Replies: @Bumpkin, @Anonymous

  53. @Hapalong Cassidy
    @anon

    Had the South been allowed to secede, the African problem could have been “quarantined” to the South and the rest of America would have been better off. The great migration to the cities of the North never would have happened.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @B36

    But if they take in people from all over the world, wouldn’t they let in Southern blacks too?

    • Replies: @d.deaconesque
    @Rob McX

    yep. that's the problem with north sea whites, they say they are purer than the mediterraneans and slavs, yet are more suicidally open to strangers than them?

    at least the latter two groups due to higher interactions with the colored, and stronger clannish-agrarian-masculinist values, know how to keep their distance in a racial hierarchy, if ever under the same rulers. that said, these southern and eastern whites have lived under the anglo paradigm since the postwar, and the masonic one like a century or two before that, so many are worse.

    meanwhile north sea whites are so individualist and within themselves, they think the colored can be just like them if trained hard enough in their ways, even when initially trending to be more segregationist than other whites. the openness is too much, perhaps due to too much hansa league, too many viking raids, too much Luther, etc. this north sea paradigm is thus a more dangerous illusion than the ones of Mediterraneans who think little of intermarriage (more than usual, even though Hispanics tend to pursue it more emotionally when cheating) or Easterners without kids due to to the harsh Orthodox and/or post-commie regimes. even if such niceness seemed to keep the north sea nations freer from colonial empires, or running them better, eventually the focus on material national-individualist greatness made them overintellectualize and think the third world can be just like them, if they just threw off the colonial shackles from the Catholic and Orthodox worlds, as well as the ones from Protestant and secular nations, and did whatever the NGOs told them to do. maybe colonization was a mistake, but a much bigger one was leaving the Mediterranean and Slav colonists fractured and troubled, after destroying their connections to their homelands. these "offwhites", even if usually not pure white, were and are still guarding the back of the homeland, and yet more and more they are being, not pushed back, but buried...

  54. @Bumpkin
    Nice try, but it won't work for two fundamental reasons:

    1. As others point out, the blacks are too small and poor a voting bloc to ever really take over a major party.

    2. There are no brilliant black strategists to make up for this, as you yourself pointed out before. If anything, black politicians are huge clowns, everyone from Maxine Waters to the now-retired John Conyers, which is saying something considering clowns like Schumer, Pelosi, and Trump.

    As a result, none of the other Democrats you mention are worried about the Black Caucus, they know they can just appease them with some cheap ObamaPhones and sentencing reforms. As the few black conservatives often say, the plantation Negroes are not leaving the Democrat plantation. Come election time, Biden will try to inflame them with the usual nonsense about Republicans wanting to "put them back in chains" and/or pick some token PoC VP, and they will try to raise the turnout from Hillary's disastrous run that way.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Sure looks like blue state mayors and governors are burning down their cities by subscribing to The Narrative.

    • Replies: @Bumpkin
    @Steve Sailer

    I'd differentiate between the Democrats using the blacks as a symbolic "moral core," to appeal to the moralistic whites that Dr. X references above, and their representing any real political threat to the remaining majority whites and other races. None of the rest are really worried about the blacks edging out their interests, so its easy for them to throw some sops to the blacks and keep them on board. This is a pretty big but rare sop atm, and they are likely miscalculating the blowback from white Democrats.

    If anything, Republicans should pick off the business-minded and religious blacks more, or at least lower their turnout, as Trump seemed to do by doubling McCain's black vote, 89-8, and keeping their turnout lower (I wonder if that wasn't mostly the media's fault for making it seem that Hillary's coronation was a done deal, so they didn't bother coming out).

    , @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer


    Sure looks like blue state mayors and governors are burning down their cities by subscribing to The Narrative.
     
    Steve,

    How would you articulate what The Narrative is? I don’t mean to challenge you. I am looking for help.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  55. @ganderson
    Blacks behaving badly? I'm gonna need to see some evidence.

    Replies: @uman, @tyrone, @ziggurat, @Hypnotoad666, @Nancy Pelosi's Latina Maid

    “Blacks Behaving Badly”. Wasn’t their a TV show like that a few years ago?

    • Replies: @Oswald Spengler
    @ziggurat

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3i7ndJL9YQ

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cops_(TV_program)

  56. @Steve Sailer
    @Bumpkin

    Sure looks like blue state mayors and governors are burning down their cities by subscribing to The Narrative.

    Replies: @Bumpkin, @Anonymous

    I’d differentiate between the Democrats using the blacks as a symbolic “moral core,” to appeal to the moralistic whites that Dr. X references above, and their representing any real political threat to the remaining majority whites and other races. None of the rest are really worried about the blacks edging out their interests, so its easy for them to throw some sops to the blacks and keep them on board. This is a pretty big but rare sop atm, and they are likely miscalculating the blowback from white Democrats.

    If anything, Republicans should pick off the business-minded and religious blacks more, or at least lower their turnout, as Trump seemed to do by doubling McCain’s black vote, 89-8, and keeping their turnout lower (I wonder if that wasn’t mostly the media’s fault for making it seem that Hillary’s coronation was a done deal, so they didn’t bother coming out).

  57. gotta be thankful this long hot summer just got kickstarted in time for the election, Mr. Sailer. otherwise, you’d have to admit Ioannidis was right.

    strong china flu aside, let’s hope the insanity indeed wakes up enough white Dems, and even some sensible minorities. i do fear the destruction won’t be enough, as this is one incident in which the cop seems to be more in the wrong than in the Rodney King case; although i read some hours ago, there seems to be more evidence that may exculpate the cop? but to be honest the optics are so bad that even if there is no guilt, which doesn’t seem likely from the video, such evidence will be accused of being doctored anyway by enough blacks. thus it will be hard for them goodwhites not to cuck. enough have joined the pantifa rainbow brigades currently helping kindle the fires.

    are the guys at AmRen being proved right, finally?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @d.deaconesque


    strong china flu aside, let’s hope the insanity indeed wakes up enough white Dems, and even some sensible minorities.
     
    Wake them up to what?

    i do fear the destruction won’t be enough, as this is one incident in which the cop seems to be more in the wrong than in the Rodney King case; although i read some hours ago, there seems to be more evidence that may exculpate the cop?
     
    The preliminary autopsy report did not find signs of asphyxiation or strangulation. Floyd probably died from heart complications.

    From that and other evidence, we could reasonably conclude that there was very little pressure being exerted on Floyd through the Chauvin’s left knee. It was an optical illusion.

    Replies: @but an humble craftsman

  58. @Rob McX
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    But if they take in people from all over the world, wouldn't they let in Southern blacks too?

    Replies: @d.deaconesque

    yep. that’s the problem with north sea whites, they say they are purer than the mediterraneans and slavs, yet are more suicidally open to strangers than them?

    at least the latter two groups due to higher interactions with the colored, and stronger clannish-agrarian-masculinist values, know how to keep their distance in a racial hierarchy, if ever under the same rulers. that said, these southern and eastern whites have lived under the anglo paradigm since the postwar, and the masonic one like a century or two before that, so many are worse.

    meanwhile north sea whites are so individualist and within themselves, they think the colored can be just like them if trained hard enough in their ways, even when initially trending to be more segregationist than other whites. the openness is too much, perhaps due to too much hansa league, too many viking raids, too much Luther, etc. this north sea paradigm is thus a more dangerous illusion than the ones of Mediterraneans who think little of intermarriage (more than usual, even though Hispanics tend to pursue it more emotionally when cheating) or Easterners without kids due to to the harsh Orthodox and/or post-commie regimes. even if such niceness seemed to keep the north sea nations freer from colonial empires, or running them better, eventually the focus on material national-individualist greatness made them overintellectualize and think the third world can be just like them, if they just threw off the colonial shackles from the Catholic and Orthodox worlds, as well as the ones from Protestant and secular nations, and did whatever the NGOs told them to do. maybe colonization was a mistake, but a much bigger one was leaving the Mediterranean and Slav colonists fractured and troubled, after destroying their connections to their homelands. these “offwhites”, even if usually not pure white, were and are still guarding the back of the homeland, and yet more and more they are being, not pushed back, but buried…

  59. Anonymous[187] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @Bumpkin

    Sure looks like blue state mayors and governors are burning down their cities by subscribing to The Narrative.

    Replies: @Bumpkin, @Anonymous

    Sure looks like blue state mayors and governors are burning down their cities by subscribing to The Narrative.

    Steve,

    How would you articulate what The Narrative is? I don’t mean to challenge you. I am looking for help.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    That the problems, shortcomings, and deficiencies of nonwhite people are solely the fault of white people.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @The Last Real Calvinist

  60. @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer


    Sure looks like blue state mayors and governors are burning down their cities by subscribing to The Narrative.
     
    Steve,

    How would you articulate what The Narrative is? I don’t mean to challenge you. I am looking for help.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    That the problems, shortcomings, and deficiencies of nonwhite people are solely the fault of white people.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Steve Sailer


    Hispanics and Asians certainly will never be terribly happy with the idea of being junior partners in the white party. (Indeed, lots of white people have an allergy to belonging to the white party.) Hence, the alternative must be framed that if Hispanics and Asians don’t want to be junior partners in the white party, they get [to] be junior partners in the black party.

    Black or white: choose one.
     
    I've long supported the idea that if the GOP becomes the white party, it loses. Meanwhile, if the Democrats become the black party, they lose.

    This is somewhat different than what you formulated. For example, no matter how distasteful Hispanics and Asians might find themselves as junior partners to blacks, they will choose that if the alternative is an exclusivist white party, which is only rational. Conversely, "junior" or no, if the so-called white party offers a partnership to Hispanics and Asians while the Democrats become a black supremacist party, the choice is obvious.

    So, in truth, this isn't about white party vs. black party - it's about the likelihood that whichever party is able to attract the bulk of its core ethnic group, white or black, all the while, at the same time, being able to attract sufficient number of allies will win. But this has always been - politics has always been a game of coalition-building, whether that coalition is one of different kinds/classes of whites (when the country was much more white) or that of different ethnic groups.
    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Steve Sailer


    That the problems, shortcomings, and deficiencies of nonwhite people are solely the fault of white people . . .

     

    . . . and that's it's solely white people's job to solve those problems, compensate for those shortcomings, and make restitution for those deficiencies.

    Substitute Savior Syndrome.

  61. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    That the problems, shortcomings, and deficiencies of nonwhite people are solely the fault of white people.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @The Last Real Calvinist

    Hispanics and Asians certainly will never be terribly happy with the idea of being junior partners in the white party. (Indeed, lots of white people have an allergy to belonging to the white party.) Hence, the alternative must be framed that if Hispanics and Asians don’t want to be junior partners in the white party, they get [to] be junior partners in the black party.

    Black or white: choose one.

    I’ve long supported the idea that if the GOP becomes the white party, it loses. Meanwhile, if the Democrats become the black party, they lose.

    This is somewhat different than what you formulated. For example, no matter how distasteful Hispanics and Asians might find themselves as junior partners to blacks, they will choose that if the alternative is an exclusivist white party, which is only rational. Conversely, “junior” or no, if the so-called white party offers a partnership to Hispanics and Asians while the Democrats become a black supremacist party, the choice is obvious.

    So, in truth, this isn’t about white party vs. black party – it’s about the likelihood that whichever party is able to attract the bulk of its core ethnic group, white or black, all the while, at the same time, being able to attract sufficient number of allies will win. But this has always been – politics has always been a game of coalition-building, whether that coalition is one of different kinds/classes of whites (when the country was much more white) or that of different ethnic groups.

  62. @Steve Sailer
    @Jim Given

    It's almost never remarked or even remembered how insane Hillary's strategy was: e.g., bringing would be cop killer Mike Brown's mother on stage at the Democratic National Convention.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @anon, @Buffalo Joe, @Marty T

    She still came very, very close to winning.

    Trump should find a way to appeal to Hispanics and Asians at the expense of blacks. But he won’t because blacks are loud and overrepresented as celebrities. They’re in your face.

    Instead Trump brags about how many people he’s let out of prison.

    But the riots may force Trump to use the crime issue for good, and it may be his only shot.

  63. @Reg Cæsar
    @Johnnie Tumbleweed


    Right! The hell with science, data, and reality in general! Just stay home, wear a mask, and watch Brian Stelter!

     

    I'd prefer Brian Setzer.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-FlCfAjx1s

    Replies: @hhsiii

    I was once on an overnight train from Poltsk through Minsk to Moscow with my wife. Around 2010 or so. We shared a compartment with a Russian rock band. The youngest member, a tattooed bassist, asked me: “Is Brian Setzer huge star in America?”

  64. @anon
    @anon

    That was always my worst fear with Covid-19, not the death toll by itself but the loss of government legitimacy if it were seen to do nothing in the wake of it. That's just what happened; government at the highest levels tried to sweep the whole thing under the rug. More often than you might think, governments lose legitimacy through inaction rather than inaction. The colonists fought King George because they thought he was indifferent to their concerns. French peasants overthrew their king for the same reason.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @bomag, @TomSchmidt

    …but the loss of government legitimacy if it were seen to do nothing in the wake of it

    Come on, the gov’t reliably does nothing or botches the various crises that come around while being a bastion of the overpriced and overpaid.

  65. @Reg Cæsar
    @Mr McKenna



    Africa big, man, big!

     

    Thanks for mentioning it again. It borders on incredible!
     
    The Mercator projection has been criticized for inflating the size of imperial white powers such as Greenland and Siberia. I was thinking, never mind Gall-Peters, which projection goes to the opposite extreme, making our part of the world look tiny and the "South" gigantic?




    The Portogee who runs the General Knowledge channel on YouTube has just put up a nice description of the array of projections available, after he had looked at more than 250. For our purposes, I think an upsidedown stereographic planisphere would make the point that we're outnumbered the clearest.

    The Lambert Conformal Conic, also turned upside-down, would work, too. The Behrmann is equal-area, but the northern countries are squashed flat. Now that would be telling set on its head!



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAzy4S4EOwc&t=0m49s

    Replies: @hhsiii

    Maybe I’m wrong, but google search seems to suggest Dakar to Bosaso is 4483 air mikes, Dakar to Minneapolis 4800 some odd air miles. Missed it by THAT much…

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @hhsiii


    Maybe I’m wrong, but google search seems to suggest Dakar to Bosaso is 4483 air mikes, Dakar to Minneapolis 4800 some odd air miles. Missed it by THAT much…
     
    Hmmm... I got different figures in the past. However, it works for Detroit. And more so for Somali destinations Columbus, Boston, and Atlanta. Nashville is almost exactly the same distance to Dakar as Bosaso is.

    Why Somali refugees are attracted to state capitals is an interesting question. I think it's mostly coincidence (they missed by a few miles with Minneapolis), as they were going for places with a smaller but non-negligible number of native blacks, behind whom they could hide.
  66. @Anonymous
    Steve,

    You are heading down the wrong path on this one. Blacks are a natural fit for a citizenist, anti-immigration platform, pro-American, hire American, buy American platform.

    Replies: @XYZ (no Mr.), @bomag, @dr kill

    Blacks are a natural fit for…

    Maybe individually. But their political leadership has gone all-in with Globohomo.

  67. @Anonymous
    Steve,

    You are heading down the wrong path on this one. Blacks are a natural fit for a citizenist, anti-immigration platform, pro-American, hire American, buy American platform.

    Replies: @XYZ (no Mr.), @bomag, @dr kill

    I’m with you here.

  68. Asians should be GOP. The older generations are pretty based and admirably assured of themselves. There are low rates of social dysfunction and low rates of government dependency.

    The younger generation a completely cuck to liberal ideology and they learn it in school. Asians place a high value on education and neglect to build their own institutions that other groups have, and so they erase themselves very quickly.

    But the GOP blows it in a number of ways.

    The GOP values blacks above other minorities too. They give blacks affirmative action in their ranks. They give lip service to black interests.

    The GOP also is xenophobic towards Mexicans and Asians. The Democrats for their faults do not subtly view them as alien invaders in the same way as the GOP.

    The GOP war on expertise is contrary to the Asian value on education. The GOP seems to value hard work unless a Mexican does the hard work.

    Those issues are fixable. But I don’t see any movement towards that.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Bucky


    The younger generation a completely cuck to liberal ideology and they learn it in school.
     
    Unfortunately, it is in Asians’ self interest to conquer the North America continent and to take its resources and institutions for themselves and displace Whites.

    Replies: @Bucky

  69. @tyrone
    @ganderson

    Take a gander at the crime statistics son.

    Replies: @Ganderson

    I will- hence my moniker.

  70. B36 says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy
    @anon

    Had the South been allowed to secede, the African problem could have been “quarantined” to the South and the rest of America would have been better off. The great migration to the cities of the North never would have happened.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @B36

    The 1619 Project has a better idea (even if they don’t realize it): everyone would be better off today if Africans had never been brought to America. Black people would be living happily in their own culture in their own homeland and America, having avoided the sin of slavery, would be Good and…all White.

  71. Anonymous[269] • Disclaimer says:
    @d.deaconesque
    gotta be thankful this long hot summer just got kickstarted in time for the election, Mr. Sailer. otherwise, you'd have to admit Ioannidis was right.

    strong china flu aside, let's hope the insanity indeed wakes up enough white Dems, and even some sensible minorities. i do fear the destruction won't be enough, as this is one incident in which the cop seems to be more in the wrong than in the Rodney King case; although i read some hours ago, there seems to be more evidence that may exculpate the cop? but to be honest the optics are so bad that even if there is no guilt, which doesn't seem likely from the video, such evidence will be accused of being doctored anyway by enough blacks. thus it will be hard for them goodwhites not to cuck. enough have joined the pantifa rainbow brigades currently helping kindle the fires.

    are the guys at AmRen being proved right, finally?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    strong china flu aside, let’s hope the insanity indeed wakes up enough white Dems, and even some sensible minorities.

    Wake them up to what?

    i do fear the destruction won’t be enough, as this is one incident in which the cop seems to be more in the wrong than in the Rodney King case; although i read some hours ago, there seems to be more evidence that may exculpate the cop?

    The preliminary autopsy report did not find signs of asphyxiation or strangulation. Floyd probably died from heart complications.

    From that and other evidence, we could reasonably conclude that there was very little pressure being exerted on Floyd through the Chauvin’s left knee. It was an optical illusion.

    • Replies: @but an humble craftsman
    @Anonymous

    have someone that weight sit on your upper back, where the lungs are, for ten minutes and come back to tell what that does to your system.

    Have a cardiologist check you out befotre, though.

  72. Anonymous[269] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bucky
    Asians should be GOP. The older generations are pretty based and admirably assured of themselves. There are low rates of social dysfunction and low rates of government dependency.

    The younger generation a completely cuck to liberal ideology and they learn it in school. Asians place a high value on education and neglect to build their own institutions that other groups have, and so they erase themselves very quickly.

    But the GOP blows it in a number of ways.

    The GOP values blacks above other minorities too. They give blacks affirmative action in their ranks. They give lip service to black interests.

    The GOP also is xenophobic towards Mexicans and Asians. The Democrats for their faults do not subtly view them as alien invaders in the same way as the GOP.

    The GOP war on expertise is contrary to the Asian value on education. The GOP seems to value hard work unless a Mexican does the hard work.

    Those issues are fixable. But I don't see any movement towards that.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    The younger generation a completely cuck to liberal ideology and they learn it in school.

    Unfortunately, it is in Asians’ self interest to conquer the North America continent and to take its resources and institutions for themselves and displace Whites.

    • Replies: @Bucky
    @Anonymous

    It is in everyone’s self interest to do so. Can they?

    Replies: @Goddard

  73. @anon
    Communist police state is trying to deflect blame from the FBI's antifa and blacks. Now they are just outright lying, falsely claiming somehow "white supremacists" are behind it all. We have video and picture evidence, but suddenly the police state is saying that people didn't actually see what they thought they saw.

    MN chief of police just said that many of the arrests are white nationalists who are coming to MN to destroy the city. Just my opinion, but I think this was planned. All of it.

    — Regina Marston for Congress CA 42 in 2022 (@Marston4ca42) May 30, 2020
     

    Q: In Animal Farm, why does Napoleon blame Snowball for the fall of the windmill when it had actually been destroyed in a storm?

    A: Napoleon's purpose is to demonize Snowball as much as he possibly can. He can use Snowball as the scapegoat for everything that goes wrong on the farm. In so doing, he can present himself as a foil to Snowball's evil. The gullible and unintelligent animals would, therefore, be convinced that he is truly their protector, acting in their best interests.

    https://www.enotes.com/homework-help/animal-farm-why-napoleon-blame-snowball-fall-626412
     

    Replies: @botazefa

    Great posting.

  74. @The Alarmist

    The good news for the GOP about black voters: it really can’t get much worse than 2008. McCain ran as gingerly as imaginable on topics even remotely related to race, and still lost 95-4 among blacks. …
     
    I learned from being a minority in an inner-city school and later in the Air Force that pandering to or showing too much deference to the African Americans around me only earned their contempt. When I talked smack on par with them and actually treated them as equals, things went much better for me. In that respect, Trump's approach almost certainly earns him a lot more respect among African Americans than any prior attempts by the Repubes.

    Replies: @botazefa

    Americans around me only earned their contempt. When I talked smack on par with them and actually treated them as equals, things went much better for me.

    You mean, when you condescended to them, obviously.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @botazefa

    Back in the day, a white boy could still use the N-word to a black person if it was meant with respect.

    Replies: @botazefa

  75. @B36
    I never have understood why the Republicans don't try harder to craft a campaign to pick apart the Coalition. Why aren't they targeting Asians with the message that the Democrats are using quotas to keep their children out of university...because of their race? Why aren't they targeting college age men who Dems say are all rapists and do not deserve the most basic due process? Why aren't they targeting socially conservative Hispanics (among others) who do not approve of allowing male perverts to dress up as women and go into the girl's locker room? Why aren't they hammering away at working poor people that their jobs and futures are at risk due to the open borders championed by the Dems? And why aren't they telling the wealthy gentry Dems in Silicon Valley and elsewhere, why, yes, yes, we agree, let's raise taxes bigly on the rich?

    Replies: @Jesse, @MBlanc46, @botazefa, @anon

    Why aren’t they targeting Asians with the message that the Democrats are using quotas to keep their children out of university…because of their race?

    Because average aren’t competing with average asians for jobs. Average Whites are their competitor.

    Average blacks are competing with average El Salvadorans for jobs.

    Oh, wait – affirmative action gives average blacks the advantage over average other races. Right?

  76. @anon
    @anon

    That was always my worst fear with Covid-19, not the death toll by itself but the loss of government legitimacy if it were seen to do nothing in the wake of it. That's just what happened; government at the highest levels tried to sweep the whole thing under the rug. More often than you might think, governments lose legitimacy through inaction rather than inaction. The colonists fought King George because they thought he was indifferent to their concerns. French peasants overthrew their king for the same reason.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @bomag, @TomSchmidt

    French peasants overthrew their king for the same reason.

    Where did you get that idea? Here’s a list of the 10 most important French Revolutionary leaders.
    https://learnodo-newtonic.com/french-revolution-leaders

    Check the careers on them. An abbot; two or three noblemen; journalist; lawyer; leaders of bourgeois organizations. Not a peasant amongst them.

    The French Revolution was a revolt of the bourgeois against the Church and nobility. When they had power, they knew what to do with the peasants who clung to Faith: drown them en masse.

    https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jean-Baptiste-Carrier

  77. @botazefa
    @The Alarmist


    Americans around me only earned their contempt. When I talked smack on par with them and actually treated them as equals, things went much better for me.
     
    You mean, when you condescended to them, obviously.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    Back in the day, a white boy could still use the N-word to a black person if it was meant with respect.

    • Replies: @botazefa
    @The Alarmist


    Back in the day, a white boy could still use the N-word to a black person if it was meant with respect.
     
    Be specific, please. What year/location are you referencing? What you're describing has not been my experience.
  78. @Anonymous
    @Bucky


    The younger generation a completely cuck to liberal ideology and they learn it in school.
     
    Unfortunately, it is in Asians’ self interest to conquer the North America continent and to take its resources and institutions for themselves and displace Whites.

    Replies: @Bucky

    It is in everyone’s self interest to do so. Can they?

    • Replies: @Goddard
    @Bucky

    Stoddard averred they had a good shot. And Stoddard got a lot of things right.

  79. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    That the problems, shortcomings, and deficiencies of nonwhite people are solely the fault of white people.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @The Last Real Calvinist

    That the problems, shortcomings, and deficiencies of nonwhite people are solely the fault of white people . . .

    . . . and that’s it’s solely white people’s job to solve those problems, compensate for those shortcomings, and make restitution for those deficiencies.

    Substitute Savior Syndrome.

  80. @ganderson
    Blacks behaving badly? I'm gonna need to see some evidence.

    Replies: @uman, @tyrone, @ziggurat, @Hypnotoad666, @Nancy Pelosi's Latina Maid

    BLM defaced the Veterans Memorial in DC. You know it was BLM because the grammar is wrong.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Hypnotoad666


    BLM defaced the Veterans Memorial in DC. You know it was BLM because the grammar is wrong.
     
    Is there a demographic anywhere in America whose grammar isn't wrong?


    Bad Language Matters.
  81. @Anonymous
    @d.deaconesque


    strong china flu aside, let’s hope the insanity indeed wakes up enough white Dems, and even some sensible minorities.
     
    Wake them up to what?

    i do fear the destruction won’t be enough, as this is one incident in which the cop seems to be more in the wrong than in the Rodney King case; although i read some hours ago, there seems to be more evidence that may exculpate the cop?
     
    The preliminary autopsy report did not find signs of asphyxiation or strangulation. Floyd probably died from heart complications.

    From that and other evidence, we could reasonably conclude that there was very little pressure being exerted on Floyd through the Chauvin’s left knee. It was an optical illusion.

    Replies: @but an humble craftsman

    have someone that weight sit on your upper back, where the lungs are, for ten minutes and come back to tell what that does to your system.

    Have a cardiologist check you out befotre, though.

  82. @hhsiii
    @Reg Cæsar

    Maybe I’m wrong, but google search seems to suggest Dakar to Bosaso is 4483 air mikes, Dakar to Minneapolis 4800 some odd air miles. Missed it by THAT much...

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Maybe I’m wrong, but google search seems to suggest Dakar to Bosaso is 4483 air mikes, Dakar to Minneapolis 4800 some odd air miles. Missed it by THAT much…

    Hmmm… I got different figures in the past. However, it works for Detroit. And more so for Somali destinations Columbus, Boston, and Atlanta. Nashville is almost exactly the same distance to Dakar as Bosaso is.

    Why Somali refugees are attracted to state capitals is an interesting question. I think it’s mostly coincidence (they missed by a few miles with Minneapolis), as they were going for places with a smaller but non-negligible number of native blacks, behind whom they could hide.

  83. @Hypnotoad666
    @ganderson

    BLM defaced the Veterans Memorial in DC. You know it was BLM because the grammar is wrong.

    https://media.thedonald.win/thedonald/post/qVpdpSUO.jpeg

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    BLM defaced the Veterans Memorial in DC. You know it was BLM because the grammar is wrong.

    Is there a demographic anywhere in America whose grammar isn’t wrong?

    Bad Language Matters.

  84. @ziggurat
    @ganderson

    "Blacks Behaving Badly". Wasn't their a TV show like that a few years ago?

    Replies: @Oswald Spengler

  85. anon[118] • Disclaimer says:

    Of course, practically no Republican tried to implement this strategy…

    Haven’t they?

    You couldn’t do it too openly, because you’d look racist. You don’t want people thinking you’ve given up on black votes, because that opens you up to too-easy accusations of racism, which scares off white voters.

    You can’t openly tag the Democrats as the black party, because that makes it too explicit that you’re the white party, and most white Americans fancy themselves colourblind.

    No, you’d need to say…

    …blacks wishing to vote for the good of the country are more than welcome in the GOP, [but blacks in general] have their natural home in the Democratic Party.

    …as you say, but how can you communicate that without sounding like you don’t really care about black voters?

    Maybe the way forward is to aggressively, publicly, and incompetently court the black vote. Use black faces to pitch white-friendly policies; get the whitest-acting black guy you can find for a high-profile cabinet position (ideally someone actually named “Tom”); throw black voters a few crappy bones and act like it’s something good; meanwhile, clamp down on government employment, government benefits, and affirmative action.

    White voters will see you being colourblind and fair, black voters will see straight through you and stay with the Democrats, and the Democrats will hopefully be pushed into countering your offensive by taking public ownership of the black vote.

    My question: is this what Trump is actually trying to do? Palling around with Kanye West, plugging Candace Owens on Twitter, “record lows for black unemployment!”, etc.

    I don’t know how the prison reform thing squares with this point of view.

  86. anon[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @B36
    I never have understood why the Republicans don't try harder to craft a campaign to pick apart the Coalition. Why aren't they targeting Asians with the message that the Democrats are using quotas to keep their children out of university...because of their race? Why aren't they targeting college age men who Dems say are all rapists and do not deserve the most basic due process? Why aren't they targeting socially conservative Hispanics (among others) who do not approve of allowing male perverts to dress up as women and go into the girl's locker room? Why aren't they hammering away at working poor people that their jobs and futures are at risk due to the open borders championed by the Dems? And why aren't they telling the wealthy gentry Dems in Silicon Valley and elsewhere, why, yes, yes, we agree, let's raise taxes bigly on the rich?

    Replies: @Jesse, @MBlanc46, @botazefa, @anon

    Why aren’t they targeting Asians with the message

    That’s not how human nature works. People have evolved to pick winners, and the rise of diversity demographics means the democrats will soon be the permanent majority party (goodbye USA) — the ultimate winners. If Asians sided with the GOP now, that would only ensure their later oppression at the hands of vengeful democrats. People don’t tether themselves to sinking ships. Therefore, no argument will win over that demographic or any other demographic now or ever.

    But this wasn’t always the case. It wasn’t uncommon back in the day for some minorities and immigrants to be respectable republicans. Ronald Reagan in 1980 garnered an impressive 37% of the Hispanic vote and 14% of the black vote. He crushed Jimmy Carter, winning the popular vote by 9 points and over 90% of electoral college votes. At that time, many minorities had no problem going along with the strong horse. But as the GOP has demographically weakened, even while espousing the same policies, minorities have fled. Romney in 2012 got just 6% of the black vote and 27% of the Hispanic vote, even as his share of the white vote increased over Reagan’s (the only reason he was at all competitive).

    1980 Presidential election GOP vote share by demographic: Asian — Hispanic 37% Black 14%

    *landslide GOP victory

    2004 Presidential election GOP vote share by demographic: Asian 44 Hispanic 44 Black 11%

    *GOP victory

    2008 Presidential election GOP vote share by demographic: Asian 35 Hispanic 31 Black 4%

    *GOP loss

    2012 Presidential election GOP vote share by demographic: Asian 26 Hispanic 27 Black 6%

    *GOP loss

    2016 Presidential election GOP vote share by demographic: Asian 29 Hispanic 29 Black 8%

    *GOP electoral college victory; lost the popular vote by millions.

    This can’t be solely a relic of GOP immigration policies because illegal immigrants are mostly Hispanic. As the demographics have shifted in favor of the democrats, minorities have fled to the safety of the new boss in town.

    A similar phenomenon underpins Stockholm syndrome: captives come to identify with oppressors and work for their interests in order to maximize their chances of survival. In fact, I’m predicting a swift decline in the GOP post 2020, faster than people think, as suburban whites flee the republican party and start pandering to the new boss in town. This has already happened with NeverTrump. And don’t kid yourself, they were merely signalling their loyalty to the new democrat party bosses in order to ease their transition over to the other side (most have become democrats or left the GOP by now). That wasn’t about decorum or politics.

  87. @Dr. X

    Just don’t understand the idea of the Democratic Party becoming the Black Party. They’re like 12% of the total population in the US and not all of them vote.
     
    It's a great question, but I think the answer is pretty simple.

    The strategy is not to appeal directly to the black population for its raw numbers, which, as you observe, are pretty low. Rather, the strategy is to appeal to whites who think they are morally superior to other whites by professing their commitment to "diversity" and "inclusion" and "anti-racism."

    I noticed this with advertising. Why are Negroes and mulattoes so overrepresented in advertising when they are, statistically speaking, the poorest 13% of the population?? The answer is that the advertiser is attempting to appeal to sense of moral superiority of rich, liberal whites -- not directly to black consumers.

    Replies: @Goddard

    Yes.

  88. @Muggles
    With Fightin' Joe Biden at the helm ("he's no malarkey!") the Dems are already the Black Party.

    Joe tells 'em who to vote for and by god, if they're really black, it better be for him.

    A Democrat micro-strategist friend of mine had an elaborate theory as to why Black Joe needed another POC on his ticket, i.e. Stacy Abrams. His theory rested on Dem electoral politics absolutely needing GA in November. The only way to secure that strategic necessity was Abrams, according to him. To ensure the black voters turn out.

    All the rest of the states, voting blocs, etc. were irrelevant in this analysis.

    Now loyal voting blocs are always helpful in politics. But if usually shaky black voter turnout is so absolutely necessary, then the Dems have already put all of their eggs in one shaky basket with that.

    Biden isn't Obama, and Abrams isn't Oprah. These rioters and looters aren't exactly sending a message of racial harmony either. Socialist Dem politicians don't appear to solve any racial or politce problems. Who will notice?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    Biden isn’t Obama, and Abrams isn’t Oprah. These rioters and looters aren’t exactly sending a message of racial harmony either.

    I agree. Joe Biden’s chances are being diminished by the “protests”.

  89. @Bucky
    @Anonymous

    It is in everyone’s self interest to do so. Can they?

    Replies: @Goddard

    Stoddard averred they had a good shot. And Stoddard got a lot of things right.

  90. Hispanics and Asians certainly will never be terribly happy with the idea of being junior partners in the white party. (Indeed, lots of white people have an allergy to belonging to the white party.) Hence, the alternative must be framed that if Hispanics and Asians don’t want to be junior partners in the white party, they get [to] be junior partners in the black party.

    Black or white: choose one.

    White Supremacy or Black Supremacy. Which to choose??? Why not Jewish Supremacy, since it’s what we have? Hmmmm?

    It is their country. They stole it fair and square and without firing a shot. Lawfare wins everytime.

  91. @The Alarmist
    @botazefa

    Back in the day, a white boy could still use the N-word to a black person if it was meant with respect.

    Replies: @botazefa

    Back in the day, a white boy could still use the N-word to a black person if it was meant with respect.

    Be specific, please. What year/location are you referencing? What you’re describing has not been my experience.

  92. @Hibernian
    @anon


    The colonists fought King George because they thought he was indifferent to their concerns.
     
    They fought him because he was squeezing the life blood out of the colonial economy.

    Replies: @Observator

    They fought King George because his ministers saw the time had come to end the tax exemptions enjoyed by the American colonies since they were nationalized in 1690. This came after Britain nearly bankrupted the Exchequer fighting the French and Indian War, which was largely about protecting the American colonies from French and Indian attack – which usually came in retaliation for Americans trespassing on their land and trying to seize it for themselves.

    James Otis coined the famed manifesto “taxation without representation is tyranny” but an obvious argument could be made that there were precious few Britons in the home country, let alone people anywhere on earth in the 1700s, whose interests were represented by government. Today it seems more like the deceptive slogan of an insurrectionary mercantile class which did not consider itself bound to obey the laws that applied to all other Englishmen.

    Our great misfortune is that the American colonies gained their independence from Britain a little too soon. If self-government had come a bit later, say in the mid-1800s, we might have had the influence of collectivism, majoritarianism, Chartism, and Benthamism, rather than the austere views of the aristocrats’ patron saint, John Locke. Locke interpreted “liberty” from the viewpoint of the moneyed class, its members’ priority being the conservation and expansion of their political power and economic privilege.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Observator

    The French and Indian War was one theater in a worldwide conflict between Britain and France. The blood shed on the British side of the F&IW was very predominantly American. As for the merchant aristocrat leaders of the Am. Rev., they were the instigators, bu they had a lot of enthusiastic followers among the farmers and small shopkeepers.

    , @martin_2
    @Observator

    Americans go on about winning the War of Independence as though it were a good thing, but Canada,. Australia, New Zealand, all turned out alright with Her Majesty The Queen as Head of State, and I dare say they are more desirable places to live these days than the USA.

  93. For the probably, 5th time in 10 years Steve-O; how do you plan on making this work when the Democratic nominee for president is white, the democratic senators are white, the vast majority of democratic representitives are white, as are most of the democratic governors. It might work if white people had an 85-average IQ (wink.).

  94. Just frame the unlimited immigration and open borders of the Democrat Marxists is being done to help the black Democrats “gain power.”

  95. Nice to see the term ‘Machiavellian’ properly used.
    The reason that the Reps haven’t used that strategy is because, like most US Pols, they’re cowards.
    R.C.

  96. @Observator
    @Hibernian

    They fought King George because his ministers saw the time had come to end the tax exemptions enjoyed by the American colonies since they were nationalized in 1690. This came after Britain nearly bankrupted the Exchequer fighting the French and Indian War, which was largely about protecting the American colonies from French and Indian attack - which usually came in retaliation for Americans trespassing on their land and trying to seize it for themselves.

    James Otis coined the famed manifesto “taxation without representation is tyranny” but an obvious argument could be made that there were precious few Britons in the home country, let alone people anywhere on earth in the 1700s, whose interests were represented by government. Today it seems more like the deceptive slogan of an insurrectionary mercantile class which did not consider itself bound to obey the laws that applied to all other Englishmen.

    Our great misfortune is that the American colonies gained their independence from Britain a little too soon. If self-government had come a bit later, say in the mid-1800s, we might have had the influence of collectivism, majoritarianism, Chartism, and Benthamism, rather than the austere views of the aristocrats’ patron saint, John Locke. Locke interpreted “liberty” from the viewpoint of the moneyed class, its members’ priority being the conservation and expansion of their political power and economic privilege.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @martin_2

    The French and Indian War was one theater in a worldwide conflict between Britain and France. The blood shed on the British side of the F&IW was very predominantly American. As for the merchant aristocrat leaders of the Am. Rev., they were the instigators, bu they had a lot of enthusiastic followers among the farmers and small shopkeepers.

  97. @ganderson
    Blacks behaving badly? I'm gonna need to see some evidence.

    Replies: @uman, @tyrone, @ziggurat, @Hypnotoad666, @Nancy Pelosi's Latina Maid

    “Blacks behaving badly? I’m gonna need to see some evidence.”

    Yesterday a reporter asking one of the black protesters in L.A. what she hoped to accomplish: “I want the cops to stop racial profiling and bring fair treatment to the black community.”

    This was on the left side of the split screen. At the same time, on the right was a closeup of looters pouring out of a CVS. 100% black people.

  98. @Observator
    @Hibernian

    They fought King George because his ministers saw the time had come to end the tax exemptions enjoyed by the American colonies since they were nationalized in 1690. This came after Britain nearly bankrupted the Exchequer fighting the French and Indian War, which was largely about protecting the American colonies from French and Indian attack - which usually came in retaliation for Americans trespassing on their land and trying to seize it for themselves.

    James Otis coined the famed manifesto “taxation without representation is tyranny” but an obvious argument could be made that there were precious few Britons in the home country, let alone people anywhere on earth in the 1700s, whose interests were represented by government. Today it seems more like the deceptive slogan of an insurrectionary mercantile class which did not consider itself bound to obey the laws that applied to all other Englishmen.

    Our great misfortune is that the American colonies gained their independence from Britain a little too soon. If self-government had come a bit later, say in the mid-1800s, we might have had the influence of collectivism, majoritarianism, Chartism, and Benthamism, rather than the austere views of the aristocrats’ patron saint, John Locke. Locke interpreted “liberty” from the viewpoint of the moneyed class, its members’ priority being the conservation and expansion of their political power and economic privilege.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @martin_2

    Americans go on about winning the War of Independence as though it were a good thing, but Canada,. Australia, New Zealand, all turned out alright with Her Majesty The Queen as Head of State, and I dare say they are more desirable places to live these days than the USA.

  99. The Democratic party is so far gone how even the most foolish white liberal continues to stick around seems impossible to explain. In fact, I really must be dreaming.

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