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Charles Murray’s 2012 book Coming Apart documented that the white working class was doing poorly, but the real shocking news came in 2015 when the husband-wife team of Anne Case and Angus Deaton documented the increase in “deaths of despair” among non-college whites — suicides, cirrhosis, and overdoses from opioid painkillers and heroin.

This was particularly striking because, in contrast, black and Hispanic life expectancies were improving in 2000-2014.

In this decade, however, as I’ve been documenting for the last three years, we’ve seen a surge in “deaths of exuberance” — homicides, traffic fatalities, and overdoses on party drugs laced with fentanyl. These are hitting blacks and Hispanics especially hard during the depolicing of the “racial reckoning.”

But young people are killing themselves more too, especially blacks during the triumph of Black Lives Matter. Here are CDC WONDER statistics for the increase in the death rate from 2019 to 2021 for people 24 and under:

Growth in death rate from 2019 to 2021 (Age 0 to 24) Blacks Hispanics Whites Asians
Homicides 43% 37% 12% 12%
Motor vehicle accidents 42% 30% 11% 8%
Overdoses and other accidental poisonings 121% 83% 44% 21%
Suicides 33% 7% 5% 17%

So for the first three, the deaths of exuberance, there seems to be a direct relationship between how exuberant each race has been during the current depolicing era, with black death rates going up the most, followed by Hispanics, then whites, and finally Asians.

However, the 33% rise in suicides among young blacks during this Black Lives Matter era is pretty shocking as well.

 
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  1. Twinkie, your people are putting out amateur numbers!

    • Thanks: Renard
    • Replies: @Adolf Smith
    @Redneck farmer

    The Asians seem to have experienced a jump in suicide. Maybe the academic problems from Covid.
    Thank God the white increase was relatively small,but built on a big base.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Daniel Williams
    @Redneck farmer


    Twinkie, your people are putting out amateur numbers!
     
    Just you wait. When rich Asian parents figure out how to cheat the system by paying poor kids to suicide on their normally-adjusted kids’ behalf, those numbers will go way up.
  2. ‘This was particularly striking because, in contrast, black and Hispanic life expectancies were improving in 2000-2014.

    In this decade, however, as I’ve been documenting for the last three years, we’ve seen a surge in “deaths of exuberance” — homicides, traffic fatalities, and overdoses on party drugs laced with fentanyl. These are hitting blacks and Hispanics especially hard during the depolicing of the “racial reckoning.””

    and you’re more interested in patting yourself on the back about your theory of negro stupidity than focusing on why the white working class is being targeted for elimination and replacement.

    “particularly striking” Candidate for understatement of the decade.

    • Agree: Travis
  3. Are there any data for attempted suicide by firearm? How many Blacks! tried to shoot themselves and missed?

    Imagine: Sailor’s Law of Self-Shootings.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Buzz Mohawk

    To clarify, how many tried to kill themselves with a gun but only managed to get badly injured?

    It happens. I used to know somebody who had a friend living with him who was slow and not all there. The friend had tried to commit suicide with a gun, but he didn't stick it in his mouth and aim for the vital parts of the brain. Instead, he pointed the gun at the side of his head and only managed to give himself something like a crude lobotomy.

    Replies: @Feryl, @Adam Smith

    , @Mike Tre
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Heyjackass.com has a “selfie” graphic for self inflicted gunshot wounds.

    , @VinnyVette
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Are there any data for attempted suicide by firearm? How many Blacks! tried to shoot themselves and missed?

    Maybe their vaunted ghetto gun technique is backfiring!

    https://urbancarryholsters.com/pub/media/blog/cache/840x620/wysiwyg/Blogs/GangsterGrip/Gangster_Grip_ftrd_img.png

    Replies: @JimDandy

  4. @Buzz Mohawk
    Are there any data for attempted suicide by firearm? How many Blacks! tried to shoot themselves and missed?

    Imagine: Sailor's Law of Self-Shootings.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Mike Tre, @VinnyVette

    To clarify, how many tried to kill themselves with a gun but only managed to get badly injured?

    It happens. I used to know somebody who had a friend living with him who was slow and not all there. The friend had tried to commit suicide with a gun, but he didn’t stick it in his mouth and aim for the vital parts of the brain. Instead, he pointed the gun at the side of his head and only managed to give himself something like a crude lobotomy.

    • Replies: @Feryl
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Shooting yourself in the back of the head twice with a smaller caliber gun usually works pretty well.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Adam Smith
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Greetings, Buzz,

    Sticking a gun in one's mouth and aiming for the vital parts of the brain is not advisable.
    Too easy to live through...

    Katie Stubblefield who shot her face off gets a face transplant
    26 year old man shares incredible face transplant journey

  5. For those interested in failing at suicide with a hand gun.

  6. A Brattleboro, Vermont woman.

    Zaaina Asra Zakirrah Mahvish-Jammeh took an axe
    and gave her social worker forty whacks.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Condor


    HATCHET WIELDING WOMAN HACKS SHELTER WORKER TO DEATH. April 3, 2023. Brattleboro, Vermont. Zaaina Asra Zakirrah Mahvish-Jammeh, 38, was arrested for killing a homeless shelter coordinator, Leah Rosin-Pritchard, with a hunting hatchet she had purchased over the weekend.…
     
    The insanity, the sheer evil that created this, just makes my blood boil.

    What the hell is this thing even doing in the US? This Leah gal should be nurturing her own children not trying to "help" this piece of shit.

    Yeah Ms Rosin-Pritchard--good white woman--and I probably agree on pretty much nothing. But iin a free republic, productive responsible men are supposed to be in charge making better decisions.


    We must face the reality of our predicament. This isn't some "difference of opinion". We have a vile elite, infested with these evil, genocidal "must have immigration" bleaters who wish to see our people, our nation destroyed ... and are getting it done.

    It is us or them. We must either stop them and hang them on lampposts, or separate ourselves from them. Otherwise ... we are dead.

    Us or them.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Condor

    Looks like a Muslim-on-Jew murder, no?

  7. Gee, one might conclude that an orderly society in which anti-social behavior is subject to major negative incentives produces better outcomes for all. Too bad the ideology that has captured schools, media and every major city advocates for the opposite of that.

    • Thanks: res
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Arclight


    Gee, one might conclude that an orderly society in which anti-social behavior is subject to major negative incentives produces better outcomes for all. Too bad the ideology that has captured schools, media and every major city advocates for the opposite of that.
     
    Well said.

    This is the crux of the fundamental illogic and toxicity of minoritarianism. This or that minority group might be highly functional. Doesn't matter. The toxicity isn't about that.

    It's that for any people, their norms and culture must be to help them be functional, productive and reproduce themselves--as a functional, productive, self-reproducing people ... generation after generation.

    Anything else is "going out of business sale".
    , @Tiny Duck
    @Arclight

    Then how come frat boys, rednecks, Jesus freaks, and jocks get everything handed to them on a silver platter?

    Replies: @Meretricious, @tyrone, @Rocko

    , @Colin Wright
    @Arclight


    'Gee, one might conclude that an orderly society in which anti-social behavior is subject to major negative incentives produces better outcomes for all...'
     
    That would do for a start, but really, what we want to get back to is a healthy society in which anti-social behavior is an aberration.

    Crime should -- almost by definition -- be virtually unheard of. In a healthy society, people just don't commit it. I've seen this -- outside of the United States.

    Replies: @Arclight

  8. The fact that blacks have a much lower suicide rate than whites is so well-known that Dave Chappelle has even joked about it in a special. That’s bad news that their rate seems to be catching up.

  9. Andrew Gelman points out that Case & Deaton’s work has often been mischaracterized as showing an increased death rate for white men when it fact it decreased for them and only increased for white women:
    https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2017/03/24/no-op-case-case-deaton/

    • Thanks: Gabe Ruth
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @TGGP


    Andrew Gelman points out that Case & Deaton’s work has often been mischaracterized as showing an increased death rate for white men when it fact it decreased for them and only increased for white women:
    https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2017/03/24/no-op-case-case-deaton/
     
    Thanks much TGGP. I love demographic stuff, but don't spend a lot of cycles trying to follow this stuff.

    For people who would like to see it in graphs at a glance:

    https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2017/03/23/mortality-rate-trends-age-ethnicity-sex-state/

    Basically
    -- White female longevity has stalled and reversed overall. Only trivial gains in a few of the better off states.
    --White flyover women have increasing mortality.
    -- The South--absolute disaster.

    My guess: broken family structure, fewer children, childlessness, divorce ... then rocketed fueled by obesity.

    Message to white women who don't want to die young:
    Push back from the plate! Then--much easier now--find a good man, have kids with him, don't dump him. Not a magic elixir, but you'll likely live a long reasonably happy life and die with loving children and grandchildren seeing you off and missing you after you've gone.

    Replies: @Renard, @Pixo, @Pixo, @SafeNow, @Ghost of Bull Moose

  10. I wonder if the rise in black suicides was partially due to COVID. Blacks are famously gregarious; I imagine lockdowns weren’t a great experience for them.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Mr. Blank

    Sort of but really they just ignored the lockdown. They were doing sideshows every night.

  11. My theory, which I have strong anecdotal reasons to believe, is that with the increase in homicides it becomes both politically expedient and economical to declare that random black guy with a bullet hole must have killed himself. One fewer unsolved murder to worry about.

  12. @Redneck farmer
    Twinkie, your people are putting out amateur numbers!

    Replies: @Adolf Smith, @Daniel Williams

    The Asians seem to have experienced a jump in suicide. Maybe the academic problems from Covid.
    Thank God the white increase was relatively small,but built on a big base.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Adolf Smith

    Probably due to the anti-Asian sentiments recently.

  13. Case and Deaton brought attention to the fact that deaths had been increasing among the white working class from 2000-20014. For the next three years, 2015-2017, overall life expectancy was actually decreasing in the U.S. It then decreased again in 2020-2021. Life expectancy decreasing five out of seven years is unprecedented in this country.

    The corrupt ruling elites have failed when their subjects are becoming poorer and dying earlier. I don’t personally advocate violence against individuals, but we need to do everything short of that to bring those responsible for this to justice. People like Fauci, who contributed to the death of millions by funding a dangerous disease, need to be put on trial. If he is found guilty, which I think he should be, I don’t see how you can say anything other than the death penalty would be morally appropriate for someone contributing to so many deaths and so much suffering. Others like Biden, Harris, Pelosi etc. really belong in prison instead of in positions of power. I think this is unlikely but eventually things will become so bad our current elites will lose their grip on power. Future history books are likely to cast our current American governing elites as major villains and those who opposed them as heroic.

    • Troll: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Mark G.


    The corrupt ruling elites have failed when their subjects are becoming poorer and dying earlier. I don’t personally advocate violence against individuals, but we need to do everything short of that to bring those responsible for this to justice.
     
    Our elite is right up there with the worst in human history.


    People like Fauci, who contributed to the death of millions by funding a dangerous disease, need to be put on trial. If he is found guilty, which I think he should be, I don’t see how you can say anything other than the death penalty would be morally appropriate for someone contributing to so many deaths and so much suffering.
     
    That Fauci has not even been investigated--what the hell are the Republicans doing?--much less tried is just ridiculous.

    A state AG could charge him with at least manslaughter. If nothing else a civil suit against him, Peter Daszak and the Eco Health Alliance people for billions in medical costs. It is much more credible than the tobacco shakedown lawsuits--tobacco is negative personal choice, some of the medical costs of which states have chosen to absorb. No one freely chose this covid crap.

    We do not even fight these bastards. It's appalling.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  14. And then there’s another “exuberant” category at which the Negro excels–“feral interracial murders of exuberance.” True to form, the NY Post does not permit reader comments on stories dealing with our favorite minority’s propensity for interracial murder.

    https://nypost.com/2023/04/06/social-worker-butchered-by-ax-wielding-homeless-woman-in-vermont-shelter/

    • Replies: @Pixo
    @Meretricious

    Creative solutions from the South

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/07/americas/el-salvador-prison-bukele-intl-latam/index.html

  15. Many of those suicides are just staged to look like one. I see it on TV all the time.

  16. @Arclight
    Gee, one might conclude that an orderly society in which anti-social behavior is subject to major negative incentives produces better outcomes for all. Too bad the ideology that has captured schools, media and every major city advocates for the opposite of that.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Tiny Duck, @Colin Wright

    Gee, one might conclude that an orderly society in which anti-social behavior is subject to major negative incentives produces better outcomes for all. Too bad the ideology that has captured schools, media and every major city advocates for the opposite of that.

    Well said.

    This is the crux of the fundamental illogic and toxicity of minoritarianism. This or that minority group might be highly functional. Doesn’t matter. The toxicity isn’t about that.

    It’s that for any people, their norms and culture must be to help them be functional, productive and reproduce themselves–as a functional, productive, self-reproducing people … generation after generation.

    Anything else is “going out of business sale”.

  17. See, there are other things in which blacks are better than Whites, besides running and jumping, with the added bonus of reducing their population.

    • Replies: @Vito Klein
    @usNthem

    Blacks are not the enemy

    Replies: @ATate, @J.Ross

    , @Corvinus
    @usNthem

    “with the added bonus of reducing their population.”

    Well, that had been accelerated when Roe was law, but then the GOP and the evangelicals got into a tizzy, so abortion is illegal in a number of states. You’d think that they would be embracing this eugenic policy for that reason alone—the removal of darkies from the white gene pool. I mean, that’s your end goal, right? How noble and just you are!

    How are you doing, considering that your daughter has mixed offspring? Must be wreaking havoc in your family…

  18. @TGGP
    Andrew Gelman points out that Case & Deaton's work has often been mischaracterized as showing an increased death rate for white men when it fact it decreased for them and only increased for white women:
    https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2017/03/24/no-op-case-case-deaton/

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Andrew Gelman points out that Case & Deaton’s work has often been mischaracterized as showing an increased death rate for white men when it fact it decreased for them and only increased for white women:
    https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2017/03/24/no-op-case-case-deaton/

    Thanks much TGGP. I love demographic stuff, but don’t spend a lot of cycles trying to follow this stuff.

    For people who would like to see it in graphs at a glance:

    https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2017/03/23/mortality-rate-trends-age-ethnicity-sex-state/

    Basically
    — White female longevity has stalled and reversed overall. Only trivial gains in a few of the better off states.
    –White flyover women have increasing mortality.
    — The South–absolute disaster.

    My guess: broken family structure, fewer children, childlessness, divorce … then rocketed fueled by obesity.

    Message to white women who don’t want to die young:
    Push back from the plate! Then–much easier now–find a good man, have kids with him, don’t dump him. Not a magic elixir, but you’ll likely live a long reasonably happy life and die with loving children and grandchildren seeing you off and missing you after you’ve gone.

    • Replies: @Renard
    @AnotherDad


    Top Gut: US Air Force is loosening recruits' body fat requirements to 26% BMI for men and 36% for women to try to boost recruitment (despite growing military fitness crisis)

    https://mol.im/a/11949391

     

    36% for women? How much for black women? And why stop at 36% ?? Why not aim for 100%? You can do this, America! 🇺🇸

    Replies: @anon

    , @Pixo
    @AnotherDad

    Wisconsin has the fattest blacks:

    https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/maps/2021/Black_2021.svg

    Obesity rate for N-H Whites

    https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/maps/2021/White_2021.svg

    Replies: @Thomm

    , @Pixo
    @AnotherDad

    “ White female longevity has stalled and reversed overall.”

    IME white working class males have been watching a lot less TV, moderately improving their diets, and rapidly quitting cigarettes. Their wives and girlfriends are heavy facebook users and watch increasingly high levels of reality TV.

    “Extreme obesity” went from 6 to 9% of Americans between 2010 and 2018.

    , @SafeNow
    @AnotherDad


    Message to white women who don’t want to die young:
    Push back from the plate! Then–much easier now–find a good man…don’t dump him
     
    Good advice, except I wonder if indeed it is “much easier now.” Because white deaths by exuberance have increased, my thought is that white men’s “not dead, but sub-death bad behavior” likewise occurs more frequently. I read a study a few years ago saying that during dating and courtship, creating three significant “negative impressions” means you get dumped. Contrariwise, the “yes, he/she is the one!” point arrives, on average, after 172 days of dating. I suspect that the above is now out of date.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @AnotherDad

    The South used to be poor but at least they had religion. Now they are lost never to be found.

  19. Have these “deaths of exuberance” reduced blacks’ overall life expectancy, or is that still improving despite these new headwinds?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Almost Missouri

    No, overall life expectancy fell 2021 vs 2020. Black by .7 years, white by 1.0 years. 2022 numbers not out yet.


    [American Indian] life expectancy has declined 6.6 years[!] from 2019 to 2021.[but no one cares about Indians]

    Non-Hispanic white people in the United States had the second biggest decline in life expectancy in 2021 – one full year from 77.4 in 2020 to 76.4 in 2021. Non-Hispanic Black people had the third biggest decline, a 0.7 year drop from 71.5 years in 2020 to 70.8 in 2021. Life expectancy at birth in 2021 was the lowest for both groups since 1995. After a large (4.0 year) drop in life expectancy from 2019 to 2020, Hispanic people in the U.S. had a slight decline in 2021 of 0.2 years to 77.6 years. Life expectancy for non-Hispanic Asian people also dropped slightly in 2021 – 0.1 years – to 83.5 years, the highest life expectancy of any race/ethnic group included in this analysis.
     
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2022/20220831.htm#:~:text=Non%2DHispanic%20Black%20people%20had,2020%20to%2070.8%20in%202021.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Colin Wright

  20. @AnotherDad
    @TGGP


    Andrew Gelman points out that Case & Deaton’s work has often been mischaracterized as showing an increased death rate for white men when it fact it decreased for them and only increased for white women:
    https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2017/03/24/no-op-case-case-deaton/
     
    Thanks much TGGP. I love demographic stuff, but don't spend a lot of cycles trying to follow this stuff.

    For people who would like to see it in graphs at a glance:

    https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2017/03/23/mortality-rate-trends-age-ethnicity-sex-state/

    Basically
    -- White female longevity has stalled and reversed overall. Only trivial gains in a few of the better off states.
    --White flyover women have increasing mortality.
    -- The South--absolute disaster.

    My guess: broken family structure, fewer children, childlessness, divorce ... then rocketed fueled by obesity.

    Message to white women who don't want to die young:
    Push back from the plate! Then--much easier now--find a good man, have kids with him, don't dump him. Not a magic elixir, but you'll likely live a long reasonably happy life and die with loving children and grandchildren seeing you off and missing you after you've gone.

    Replies: @Renard, @Pixo, @Pixo, @SafeNow, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Top Gut: US Air Force is loosening recruits’ body fat requirements to 26% BMI for men and 36% for women to try to boost recruitment (despite growing military fitness crisis)

    https://mol.im/a/11949391

    36% for women? How much for black women? And why stop at 36% ?? Why not aim for 100%? You can do this, America! 🇺🇸

    • Replies: @anon
    @Renard


    You can do this, America! 🇺🇸
     
    america f# yeah!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmoeZHnOJKA
  21. @Redneck farmer
    Twinkie, your people are putting out amateur numbers!

    Replies: @Adolf Smith, @Daniel Williams

    Twinkie, your people are putting out amateur numbers!

    Just you wait. When rich Asian parents figure out how to cheat the system by paying poor kids to suicide on their normally-adjusted kids’ behalf, those numbers will go way up.

  22. that significant increase in suicides for africans is surprising. they don’t usually do stuff like that.

    • Replies: @Vito Klein
    @prime noticer


    that significant increase in suicides for africans is surprising. they don’t usually do stuff like that.
     
    Native Americans have traditionally had the highest suicide rates with a period during which whites overtook them beginning in about 2008.

    Up until about the 80s, if I remember correctly, blacks had a higher suicide rate than whites
  23. @AnotherDad
    @TGGP


    Andrew Gelman points out that Case & Deaton’s work has often been mischaracterized as showing an increased death rate for white men when it fact it decreased for them and only increased for white women:
    https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2017/03/24/no-op-case-case-deaton/
     
    Thanks much TGGP. I love demographic stuff, but don't spend a lot of cycles trying to follow this stuff.

    For people who would like to see it in graphs at a glance:

    https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2017/03/23/mortality-rate-trends-age-ethnicity-sex-state/

    Basically
    -- White female longevity has stalled and reversed overall. Only trivial gains in a few of the better off states.
    --White flyover women have increasing mortality.
    -- The South--absolute disaster.

    My guess: broken family structure, fewer children, childlessness, divorce ... then rocketed fueled by obesity.

    Message to white women who don't want to die young:
    Push back from the plate! Then--much easier now--find a good man, have kids with him, don't dump him. Not a magic elixir, but you'll likely live a long reasonably happy life and die with loving children and grandchildren seeing you off and missing you after you've gone.

    Replies: @Renard, @Pixo, @Pixo, @SafeNow, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Wisconsin has the fattest blacks:

    Obesity rate for N-H Whites

    • Replies: @Thomm
    @Pixo


    Wisconsin has the fattest blacks:
     
    Low sunlight combined with high melanin leads to Vitamin D deficiencies.

    A good way to get more Vitamin D without supplements is to consume the ample cheese that Wisconsin produces.

    Hence, all is explained.

    Replies: @Brutusale, @Mr. XYZ

  24. @Almost Missouri
    Have these "deaths of exuberance" reduced blacks' overall life expectancy, or is that still improving despite these new headwinds?

    Replies: @Jack D

    No, overall life expectancy fell 2021 vs 2020. Black by .7 years, white by 1.0 years. 2022 numbers not out yet.

    [American Indian] life expectancy has declined 6.6 years[!] from 2019 to 2021.[but no one cares about Indians]

    Non-Hispanic white people in the United States had the second biggest decline in life expectancy in 2021 – one full year from 77.4 in 2020 to 76.4 in 2021. Non-Hispanic Black people had the third biggest decline, a 0.7 year drop from 71.5 years in 2020 to 70.8 in 2021. Life expectancy at birth in 2021 was the lowest for both groups since 1995. After a large (4.0 year) drop in life expectancy from 2019 to 2020, Hispanic people in the U.S. had a slight decline in 2021 of 0.2 years to 77.6 years. Life expectancy for non-Hispanic Asian people also dropped slightly in 2021 – 0.1 years – to 83.5 years, the highest life expectancy of any race/ethnic group included in this analysis.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2022/20220831.htm#:~:text=Non%2DHispanic%20Black%20people%20had,2020%20to%2070.8%20in%202021.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Jack D

    In a nutshell, American life expectancy rose from 70 to 80 during my life. But with Covid it got dialed back a few years. We're now back around where we were in the '90s, maybe 2000.

    There may be a bit of statistical issue in there in that the covid cull really jacked up elderly death rates, well beyond what "run time" rates will be in "new normal" environment with covid just "out there" like the flu. Still, it is bad for human health to have another pathogen like the flu circulating all the time, so i'm sure the net effect is that covid peeled away a year or two of the decade gain we've seen during my lifetime.

    All that being said, prior to covid, white life-expectancy had stalled while everyone else was still improving. A host of causes, but boiled down, that is what losing your nation looks like.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Colin Wright
    @Jack D

    I wonder how Jews are doing.

    I'm not insinuating anything -- I'm just wondering.

    Replies: @Jack D

  25. We’ve seen here that blacks have the highest self esteem. So, I would think that would tend to keep the black suicide rate low and level (or decreasing), but that’s not what the table shows. Maybe self esteem among young blacks is decreasing. (But the media certainly does not show that.)

  26. @Buzz Mohawk
    Are there any data for attempted suicide by firearm? How many Blacks! tried to shoot themselves and missed?

    Imagine: Sailor's Law of Self-Shootings.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Mike Tre, @VinnyVette

    Heyjackass.com has a “selfie” graphic for self inflicted gunshot wounds.

  27. @AnotherDad
    @TGGP


    Andrew Gelman points out that Case & Deaton’s work has often been mischaracterized as showing an increased death rate for white men when it fact it decreased for them and only increased for white women:
    https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2017/03/24/no-op-case-case-deaton/
     
    Thanks much TGGP. I love demographic stuff, but don't spend a lot of cycles trying to follow this stuff.

    For people who would like to see it in graphs at a glance:

    https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2017/03/23/mortality-rate-trends-age-ethnicity-sex-state/

    Basically
    -- White female longevity has stalled and reversed overall. Only trivial gains in a few of the better off states.
    --White flyover women have increasing mortality.
    -- The South--absolute disaster.

    My guess: broken family structure, fewer children, childlessness, divorce ... then rocketed fueled by obesity.

    Message to white women who don't want to die young:
    Push back from the plate! Then--much easier now--find a good man, have kids with him, don't dump him. Not a magic elixir, but you'll likely live a long reasonably happy life and die with loving children and grandchildren seeing you off and missing you after you've gone.

    Replies: @Renard, @Pixo, @Pixo, @SafeNow, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    “ White female longevity has stalled and reversed overall.”

    IME white working class males have been watching a lot less TV, moderately improving their diets, and rapidly quitting cigarettes. Their wives and girlfriends are heavy facebook users and watch increasingly high levels of reality TV.

    “Extreme obesity” went from 6 to 9% of Americans between 2010 and 2018.

  28. Push back from the plate! Then–much easier now–find a good man, have kids with him,

    Getting rid of the obesity is the key here. Loose the weight. Join a gym, work out, and get into shape. I don’t see having or not having kids is relevant here. In my experience, on average the women who don’t have kids tend to be in better shape than those that do.

    • Replies: @Ripple Earthdevil
    @Abelard Lindsey

    "Loose" the weight?

    Why is this particular spelling error so common and never goes away?

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @AnotherDad, @Reg Cæsar, @res

    , @Anonymous
    @Abelard Lindsey

    I knew a kid with very fat parents and felt really sorry for him. He was painfully embarrassed by them and was constantly trying to get them to eat less and exercise more.

    Why would you do this to your kids? It's like turning up at their school in a clown costume.

  29. @AnotherDad
    @TGGP


    Andrew Gelman points out that Case & Deaton’s work has often been mischaracterized as showing an increased death rate for white men when it fact it decreased for them and only increased for white women:
    https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2017/03/24/no-op-case-case-deaton/
     
    Thanks much TGGP. I love demographic stuff, but don't spend a lot of cycles trying to follow this stuff.

    For people who would like to see it in graphs at a glance:

    https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2017/03/23/mortality-rate-trends-age-ethnicity-sex-state/

    Basically
    -- White female longevity has stalled and reversed overall. Only trivial gains in a few of the better off states.
    --White flyover women have increasing mortality.
    -- The South--absolute disaster.

    My guess: broken family structure, fewer children, childlessness, divorce ... then rocketed fueled by obesity.

    Message to white women who don't want to die young:
    Push back from the plate! Then--much easier now--find a good man, have kids with him, don't dump him. Not a magic elixir, but you'll likely live a long reasonably happy life and die with loving children and grandchildren seeing you off and missing you after you've gone.

    Replies: @Renard, @Pixo, @Pixo, @SafeNow, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Message to white women who don’t want to die young:
    Push back from the plate! Then–much easier now–find a good man…don’t dump him

    Good advice, except I wonder if indeed it is “much easier now.” Because white deaths by exuberance have increased, my thought is that white men’s “not dead, but sub-death bad behavior” likewise occurs more frequently. I read a study a few years ago saying that during dating and courtship, creating three significant “negative impressions” means you get dumped. Contrariwise, the “yes, he/she is the one!” point arrives, on average, after 172 days of dating. I suspect that the above is now out of date.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @SafeNow


    Good advice, except I wonder if indeed it is “much easier now.”
     
    I was unclear. I simply meant that a young woman who manages to "push back from the plate" will find it much, much easier to find a good guy. These days all a young woman has to do--baring the 15-20% who are noticeably unattractive--is not get fat. 30% of the young women make themselves noticeably less attractive with weight ... suddenly a 4 who does not becomes a 6.

    But yes the whole mating process--while nominally trivial with dating apps--is more fraught today.

    Unattractiveness is huge. Retired now to the beach, the "fats and tats" issue is just stunning. But everything else--jobs, housing, welfare, female careerism, prospect of divorce/divorce rape, phones/social media, media messaging ... our entire culture, seems an enemy of young men and women getting together and making babies.

    Replies: @tyrone, @Pixo, @Kylie

  30. @SafeNow
    @AnotherDad


    Message to white women who don’t want to die young:
    Push back from the plate! Then–much easier now–find a good man…don’t dump him
     
    Good advice, except I wonder if indeed it is “much easier now.” Because white deaths by exuberance have increased, my thought is that white men’s “not dead, but sub-death bad behavior” likewise occurs more frequently. I read a study a few years ago saying that during dating and courtship, creating three significant “negative impressions” means you get dumped. Contrariwise, the “yes, he/she is the one!” point arrives, on average, after 172 days of dating. I suspect that the above is now out of date.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Good advice, except I wonder if indeed it is “much easier now.”

    I was unclear. I simply meant that a young woman who manages to “push back from the plate” will find it much, much easier to find a good guy. These days all a young woman has to do–baring the 15-20% who are noticeably unattractive–is not get fat. 30% of the young women make themselves noticeably less attractive with weight … suddenly a 4 who does not becomes a 6.

    But yes the whole mating process–while nominally trivial with dating apps–is more fraught today.

    Unattractiveness is huge. Retired now to the beach, the “fats and tats” issue is just stunning. But everything else–jobs, housing, welfare, female careerism, prospect of divorce/divorce rape, phones/social media, media messaging … our entire culture, seems an enemy of young men and women getting together and making babies.

    • Replies: @tyrone
    @AnotherDad


    our entire culture, seems an enemy of young men and women getting together and making babies.
     
    ....BINGO! , a frightening percentage of todays youth are "trans" ...the new "Americans" are pouring across the Rio Grande as we speak.
    , @Pixo
    @AnotherDad

    Why are fatties unattractive? A 300lb 20 year old is more fertile than a trim 36yo. And yet…

    Doesn’t make a lot of evolutionary sense.

    My best explanation is that there weren’t many 300 pounders in our evolutionary history, so men didn’t evolve much attraction to them.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @AnotherDad, @J.Ross, @Dumbo, @David Jones, @Abelard Lindsey

    , @Kylie
    @AnotherDad

    "Unattractiveness is huge. Retired now to the beach, the 'fats and tats' issue is just stunning."

    It's the same here in my small town in a flyover state. I see so many young women not just kind of chunky but obese, massively bloated. And they usually have tats. The young men are somewhat less obese but no more attractive. Honestly, the two sexes don't look much different from one another. They're both pudgy, pasty and covered in ink.

    It's not just unattractive, it's unhealthy. My obese neighbor has an obese daughter in her mid-20s. Her recent pregnancy was risky because her blood pressure is so high.

    Recently I saw a video clip of some 80s show and the actors were all gorgeous. Trim, well-dressed with shiny, styled hair. The men all looked like men, the women all looked like women. It was shocking. They actually didn't all have beautiful bodies and faces. But they all looked groomed and healthy.

    We have fallen so far so fast.

    Replies: @epebble, @Renard

  31. Hispanics are not looking good in this data. Hispanic gang violence is out of control right now, but the media rarely talks about it. When the country was much less hispanic in the 1980’s and 90’s, hispanic gangs were a staple of both news and entertainment media.

    Here’s a heartwarming story about a hispanic gang banger with Down syndrome who went on a killing spree in Chicago.

    https://nypost.com/2023/04/06/alleged-chicago-gang-member-with-down-syndrome-nicholas-samudio-indicted-in-two-separate-murders/

    Alleged gang member with Down syndrome indicted in separate Chicago murders: report

    An alleged gang member with Down syndrome has been charged with the murders of two men just 10 days apart in Chicago, according to a local report.

    Nicholas “Smush” Samudio, a reputed member of the Latin Kings, has been indicted on a slew of felony murder charges in the Feb. 16 fatal road-rage shooting of Humberto Marin-Garcia and the Feb. 26 slaying of Tomas Villa in a possible case of mistaken identity, the Chicago Sun Times reported.

    Samudio — who has been diagnosed with the genetic disorder, according to his public defender — was arrested following a police chase in a stolen vehicle after the second shooting.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @ATBOTL


    'Hispanics are not looking good in this data. Hispanic gang violence is out of control right now, but the media rarely talks about it. When the country was much less hispanic in the 1980’s and 90’s, hispanic gangs were a staple of both news and entertainment media...'
     
    I would guess they were also a staple of law enforcement.

    Aside from everything else, if the police are paying attention to you, it becomes very dysfunctional to graduate from the odd turf fight and stealing cars to actually killing people and committing armed robberies; there's an enormous incentive to keep it within reason.

    How demoralized are urban police departments? I would assume the problem's pretty bad.
  32. @Jack D
    @Almost Missouri

    No, overall life expectancy fell 2021 vs 2020. Black by .7 years, white by 1.0 years. 2022 numbers not out yet.


    [American Indian] life expectancy has declined 6.6 years[!] from 2019 to 2021.[but no one cares about Indians]

    Non-Hispanic white people in the United States had the second biggest decline in life expectancy in 2021 – one full year from 77.4 in 2020 to 76.4 in 2021. Non-Hispanic Black people had the third biggest decline, a 0.7 year drop from 71.5 years in 2020 to 70.8 in 2021. Life expectancy at birth in 2021 was the lowest for both groups since 1995. After a large (4.0 year) drop in life expectancy from 2019 to 2020, Hispanic people in the U.S. had a slight decline in 2021 of 0.2 years to 77.6 years. Life expectancy for non-Hispanic Asian people also dropped slightly in 2021 – 0.1 years – to 83.5 years, the highest life expectancy of any race/ethnic group included in this analysis.
     
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2022/20220831.htm#:~:text=Non%2DHispanic%20Black%20people%20had,2020%20to%2070.8%20in%202021.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Colin Wright

    In a nutshell, American life expectancy rose from 70 to 80 during my life. But with Covid it got dialed back a few years. We’re now back around where we were in the ’90s, maybe 2000.

    There may be a bit of statistical issue in there in that the covid cull really jacked up elderly death rates, well beyond what “run time” rates will be in “new normal” environment with covid just “out there” like the flu. Still, it is bad for human health to have another pathogen like the flu circulating all the time, so i’m sure the net effect is that covid peeled away a year or two of the decade gain we’ve seen during my lifetime.

    All that being said, prior to covid, white life-expectancy had stalled while everyone else was still improving. A host of causes, but boiled down, that is what losing your nation looks like.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @AnotherDad

    Here's the problem though: there's no case to be made for whites "losing America" particularly from 2000-2010. Meanwhile minorities were undergoing real hardships that have ameliorated since 2010.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

  33. It may just be artifiact. But the actors, both men and women, in the “hood” movies on Tubi seem to have become more corpulent over the past 15 years. Obesity has become more rampant in the physical world I observe as well. It is at levels I did not think was possible even 10 year ago. As Scott Locklin has put it, it is beyond mere gluttony and is now at legendary levels, like the giants of old.

  34. However, the 33% rise in suicides among young blacks during this Black Lives Matter era is pretty shocking as well.

    It is, and it is directed related to the deaths of exuberance. With the advent of BLM, American blacks were once and for all unburdened of all responsibility, accountability, expectations. They exist in a state of pure nihilism.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @JimDandy

    And, I imagine, a lot of black suicide is sparked by being surrounded 24/7 by violent nihilistic low-I.Q. blacks.

  35. @AnotherDad
    @TGGP


    Andrew Gelman points out that Case & Deaton’s work has often been mischaracterized as showing an increased death rate for white men when it fact it decreased for them and only increased for white women:
    https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2017/03/24/no-op-case-case-deaton/
     
    Thanks much TGGP. I love demographic stuff, but don't spend a lot of cycles trying to follow this stuff.

    For people who would like to see it in graphs at a glance:

    https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2017/03/23/mortality-rate-trends-age-ethnicity-sex-state/

    Basically
    -- White female longevity has stalled and reversed overall. Only trivial gains in a few of the better off states.
    --White flyover women have increasing mortality.
    -- The South--absolute disaster.

    My guess: broken family structure, fewer children, childlessness, divorce ... then rocketed fueled by obesity.

    Message to white women who don't want to die young:
    Push back from the plate! Then--much easier now--find a good man, have kids with him, don't dump him. Not a magic elixir, but you'll likely live a long reasonably happy life and die with loving children and grandchildren seeing you off and missing you after you've gone.

    Replies: @Renard, @Pixo, @Pixo, @SafeNow, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    The South used to be poor but at least they had religion. Now they are lost never to be found.

  36. I find the 33% increase in black suicides surprising. This is occurring exactly at the height of black narcissism. They’ve also had carte blanche to run wild looting, raping, and killing, and are having money thrown at them.
    They are living in a black utopia.

    Whites at 5% are the lowest of all the demographic groups, yet the future is the most bleak for them.

    Blacks youth are exuberant about crime, white youth is exuberant about partying at college.
    Plenty of exuberance to go around.

  37. @JimDandy
    However, the 33% rise in suicides among young blacks during this Black Lives Matter era is pretty shocking as well.

    It is, and it is directed related to the deaths of exuberance. With the advent of BLM, American blacks were once and for all unburdened of all responsibility, accountability, expectations. They exist in a state of pure nihilism.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    And, I imagine, a lot of black suicide is sparked by being surrounded 24/7 by violent nihilistic low-I.Q. blacks.

  38. @Buzz Mohawk
    Are there any data for attempted suicide by firearm? How many Blacks! tried to shoot themselves and missed?

    Imagine: Sailor's Law of Self-Shootings.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Mike Tre, @VinnyVette

    Are there any data for attempted suicide by firearm? How many Blacks! tried to shoot themselves and missed?

    Maybe their vaunted ghetto gun technique is backfiring!

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @VinnyVette

    Real funny. Gun are manufactured to conform to white wrist tendons.

    Replies: @VinnyVette

  39. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D

    In a nutshell, American life expectancy rose from 70 to 80 during my life. But with Covid it got dialed back a few years. We're now back around where we were in the '90s, maybe 2000.

    There may be a bit of statistical issue in there in that the covid cull really jacked up elderly death rates, well beyond what "run time" rates will be in "new normal" environment with covid just "out there" like the flu. Still, it is bad for human health to have another pathogen like the flu circulating all the time, so i'm sure the net effect is that covid peeled away a year or two of the decade gain we've seen during my lifetime.

    All that being said, prior to covid, white life-expectancy had stalled while everyone else was still improving. A host of causes, but boiled down, that is what losing your nation looks like.

    Replies: @Anon

    Here’s the problem though: there’s no case to be made for whites “losing America” particularly from 2000-2010. Meanwhile minorities were undergoing real hardships that have ameliorated since 2010.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Anon


    Meanwhile minorities were undergoing real hardships
     
    Such as?
  40. Pressed fake pain pills all contain fentanyl now. They even have little numbers imprinted on them to make them look authentic. I imagine many overdoses are from these. There are no safe street drugs anymore.

    • Agree: VinnyVette
  41. Always on topic at Steve’s place:

    The Masters has a new feature this year: “My Group”. Basically, you get to pick the players you want to watch … plus they feed in the leaders and good shots. (I picked Speith, McIlroy, Koepka, Rahm, then dropped McIlroy when I saw this wasn’t going to be his year–again–and added Phil.)

    It can be pretty jumpy–probably worse the more people you add. But essentially ends up being sort of like a broadcast, without the commentators. They pause occasionally and show you the leaderboard.

    I hooked up the HDMI, shoved the whole thing over to my TV and I’m watching the Masters on Friday … and still free to iSteve … and do–what’s i’m supposed to be doing–our taxes.

  42. @AnotherDad
    @SafeNow


    Good advice, except I wonder if indeed it is “much easier now.”
     
    I was unclear. I simply meant that a young woman who manages to "push back from the plate" will find it much, much easier to find a good guy. These days all a young woman has to do--baring the 15-20% who are noticeably unattractive--is not get fat. 30% of the young women make themselves noticeably less attractive with weight ... suddenly a 4 who does not becomes a 6.

    But yes the whole mating process--while nominally trivial with dating apps--is more fraught today.

    Unattractiveness is huge. Retired now to the beach, the "fats and tats" issue is just stunning. But everything else--jobs, housing, welfare, female careerism, prospect of divorce/divorce rape, phones/social media, media messaging ... our entire culture, seems an enemy of young men and women getting together and making babies.

    Replies: @tyrone, @Pixo, @Kylie

    our entire culture, seems an enemy of young men and women getting together and making babies.

    ….BINGO! , a frightening percentage of todays youth are “trans” …the new “Americans” are pouring across the Rio Grande as we speak.

  43. @Arclight
    Gee, one might conclude that an orderly society in which anti-social behavior is subject to major negative incentives produces better outcomes for all. Too bad the ideology that has captured schools, media and every major city advocates for the opposite of that.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Tiny Duck, @Colin Wright

    Then how come frat boys, rednecks, Jesus freaks, and jocks get everything handed to them on a silver platter?

    • Replies: @Meretricious
    @Tiny Duck


    Then how come frat boys, rednecks, Jesus freaks, and jocks get everything handed to them on a silver platter?
     
    Tiny, 3 of 4 of those unique categories seem to have Mr Honkie as the LCD. Is that your point?
    , @tyrone
    @Tiny Duck


    everything handed to them on a silver platter?
     
    ........Screw silver, I demand GOLD!...straight WHITE males deserve it!
    , @Rocko
    @Tiny Duck

    Really? Whining about muh reparations. Good luck extorting the other minorities out of that you monkeys

  44. @AnotherDad
    @SafeNow


    Good advice, except I wonder if indeed it is “much easier now.”
     
    I was unclear. I simply meant that a young woman who manages to "push back from the plate" will find it much, much easier to find a good guy. These days all a young woman has to do--baring the 15-20% who are noticeably unattractive--is not get fat. 30% of the young women make themselves noticeably less attractive with weight ... suddenly a 4 who does not becomes a 6.

    But yes the whole mating process--while nominally trivial with dating apps--is more fraught today.

    Unattractiveness is huge. Retired now to the beach, the "fats and tats" issue is just stunning. But everything else--jobs, housing, welfare, female careerism, prospect of divorce/divorce rape, phones/social media, media messaging ... our entire culture, seems an enemy of young men and women getting together and making babies.

    Replies: @tyrone, @Pixo, @Kylie

    Why are fatties unattractive? A 300lb 20 year old is more fertile than a trim 36yo. And yet…

    Doesn’t make a lot of evolutionary sense.

    My best explanation is that there weren’t many 300 pounders in our evolutionary history, so men didn’t evolve much attraction to them.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Pixo

    https://i.ibb.co/7rfwswz/1-B7-CE2-B1-4939-4-BF0-8720-276-EF866-A6-B7.jpg

    Replies: @Pixo, @I. Racist

    , @AnotherDad
    @Pixo


    Why are fatties unattractive? A 300lb 20 year old is more fertile than a trim 36yo. And yet…

    Doesn’t make a lot of evolutionary sense.

    My best explanation is that there weren’t many 300 pounders in our evolutionary history, so men didn’t evolve much attraction to them.
     

    Attraction to the hourglass curve is evolutionarily correct.

    The middle is not supposed to be taken already, it's supposed to look relatively empty and signal "your baby goes here".

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @Achmed E. Newman

    , @J.Ross
    @Pixo

    If you think about it, the only thing a woman has to do is not get fat. It'd be nice if she was cultured, or had some point of beauty, but that's not necessary. So allowing yourself to get fat is the signal that you have given up, the same way that having skills and hobbies and a tight athletic body is the signal that you are very far from giving up.

    , @Dumbo
    @Pixo


    Doesn’t make a lot of evolutionary sense.
     
    Fatsos don't make "evolutionary sense".
    Homos don't make "evolutionary sense".
    Trans freaks don't make "evolutionary sense".

    Your common HBD zombie is puzzled. Gee, it's almost as this "evolutionary sense" should be renamed "evolutionary nonsense", and we must accept that there are other things that drive changes in society, culture and humanity?
    , @David Jones
    @Pixo

    Women who are constantly stuffing their faces with potato chips and ice cream and who can't walk up three steps without wheezing are unattractive full stop.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    , @Abelard Lindsey
    @Pixo

    It is truly unfortunate for aesthetics alone that obesity does not reduce fertility. Given how unhealthy it is, you would think it would impact fertility.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  45. I guess the hard facts and statistics just prove that White and Asian Supremacy are taking their toll.

    Biden blaming Trump of course.

    Who knew that the Biden presidency would be so lethal for his voters?

    I guess Greta Thunbergism (“We’re all gonna die in 10 years!”) is also pushing them to their early graves. A lot of young and stupids, particularly females, seem to believe her.

    However, I predict a short turnaround in lethality in the second half of 2024, That’s when the Comrade/Dem/Biden/Woke mainstream media propaganda teams will be hard at work pushing their new Don’t Worry Be Happy party line.

    “Every Day In Every Way Everything’s Getting Better and Better!” President Pollyanna Biden

  46. @Pixo
    @AnotherDad

    Why are fatties unattractive? A 300lb 20 year old is more fertile than a trim 36yo. And yet…

    Doesn’t make a lot of evolutionary sense.

    My best explanation is that there weren’t many 300 pounders in our evolutionary history, so men didn’t evolve much attraction to them.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @AnotherDad, @J.Ross, @Dumbo, @David Jones, @Abelard Lindsey

    • Replies: @Pixo
    @Stan Adams

    https://clipartcraft.com/images/thumbs-up-transparent-person-9.png

    https://www.partoch.com/img/fanart/24/2469950a-f0ca-425a-bfbc-baf55ea3afde.jpg

    To be fair I like em big too. Not neolithic fertility statue big though.

    , @I. Racist
    @Stan Adams

    "Hey Grug, I made a statue of your mother"
    "Screw you Og, now everyone will think we're chubby chasers"

  47. @Pixo
    @AnotherDad

    Why are fatties unattractive? A 300lb 20 year old is more fertile than a trim 36yo. And yet…

    Doesn’t make a lot of evolutionary sense.

    My best explanation is that there weren’t many 300 pounders in our evolutionary history, so men didn’t evolve much attraction to them.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @AnotherDad, @J.Ross, @Dumbo, @David Jones, @Abelard Lindsey

    Why are fatties unattractive? A 300lb 20 year old is more fertile than a trim 36yo. And yet…

    Doesn’t make a lot of evolutionary sense.

    My best explanation is that there weren’t many 300 pounders in our evolutionary history, so men didn’t evolve much attraction to them.

    Attraction to the hourglass curve is evolutionarily correct.

    The middle is not supposed to be taken already, it’s supposed to look relatively empty and signal “your baby goes here”.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @AnotherDad

    It makes complete evolutionary sense. For the last 300,000 years any individual that fat would have simply been a burden on the tribe. Unable to gather food effectively, prone to debilitating injury, unable to flee from predatory animals or marauders from neighboring tribes. Seems logical we would have an evolutionary aversion to morbid obesity, which would have been a far worse handicap even than blindness or a missing limb in a hunter gatherer culture.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @AnotherDad

    Agreed. For Pixo, the problem with someone like that getting pregnant is, how do you know?

  48. @AnotherDad
    @SafeNow


    Good advice, except I wonder if indeed it is “much easier now.”
     
    I was unclear. I simply meant that a young woman who manages to "push back from the plate" will find it much, much easier to find a good guy. These days all a young woman has to do--baring the 15-20% who are noticeably unattractive--is not get fat. 30% of the young women make themselves noticeably less attractive with weight ... suddenly a 4 who does not becomes a 6.

    But yes the whole mating process--while nominally trivial with dating apps--is more fraught today.

    Unattractiveness is huge. Retired now to the beach, the "fats and tats" issue is just stunning. But everything else--jobs, housing, welfare, female careerism, prospect of divorce/divorce rape, phones/social media, media messaging ... our entire culture, seems an enemy of young men and women getting together and making babies.

    Replies: @tyrone, @Pixo, @Kylie

    “Unattractiveness is huge. Retired now to the beach, the ‘fats and tats’ issue is just stunning.”

    It’s the same here in my small town in a flyover state. I see so many young women not just kind of chunky but obese, massively bloated. And they usually have tats. The young men are somewhat less obese but no more attractive. Honestly, the two sexes don’t look much different from one another. They’re both pudgy, pasty and covered in ink.

    It’s not just unattractive, it’s unhealthy. My obese neighbor has an obese daughter in her mid-20s. Her recent pregnancy was risky because her blood pressure is so high.

    Recently I saw a video clip of some 80s show and the actors were all gorgeous. Trim, well-dressed with shiny, styled hair. The men all looked like men, the women all looked like women. It was shocking. They actually didn’t all have beautiful bodies and faces. But they all looked groomed and healthy.

    We have fallen so far so fast.

    • Agree: Farenheit
    • Replies: @epebble
    @Kylie

    And metal, as in piercings. Some young people have such weird piercings that one would think they are from Papua New Guinea. There is a young woman in my workplace with

    https://i.etsystatic.com/8562134/r/il/86dee6/2287939761/il_794xN.2287939761_m7zm.jpg

    I can't suppress the thought that I am looking at a cow.

    Replies: @Pixo, @AnotherDad

    , @Renard
    @Kylie

    People may hate me for saying this, but it's plain depressing to be around fat people. I avoid them like the plague.

  49. It’s interesting to slice, dice and interpret these figures, but taken as a whole, this table is a national disaster of historic proportions. God help this country.

  50. anonymous[622] • Disclaimer says:

    Slightly OT but here’s something amazing – even in 1986 a numinous negro in charge of whites.

  51. @Kylie
    @AnotherDad

    "Unattractiveness is huge. Retired now to the beach, the 'fats and tats' issue is just stunning."

    It's the same here in my small town in a flyover state. I see so many young women not just kind of chunky but obese, massively bloated. And they usually have tats. The young men are somewhat less obese but no more attractive. Honestly, the two sexes don't look much different from one another. They're both pudgy, pasty and covered in ink.

    It's not just unattractive, it's unhealthy. My obese neighbor has an obese daughter in her mid-20s. Her recent pregnancy was risky because her blood pressure is so high.

    Recently I saw a video clip of some 80s show and the actors were all gorgeous. Trim, well-dressed with shiny, styled hair. The men all looked like men, the women all looked like women. It was shocking. They actually didn't all have beautiful bodies and faces. But they all looked groomed and healthy.

    We have fallen so far so fast.

    Replies: @epebble, @Renard

    And metal, as in piercings. Some young people have such weird piercings that one would think they are from Papua New Guinea. There is a young woman in my workplace with

    I can’t suppress the thought that I am looking at a cow.

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @Pixo
    @epebble

    These stupid South Asian type thin tiny nose rings became common about 3 years ago very suddenly in otherwise attractive women, not tatted slags.

    On the bright side, the huge gauge type ear discs are now out of style. But the women with them were already ugly.

    , @AnotherDad
    @epebble


    I can’t suppress the thought that I am looking at a cow.
     
    Tie a small locking carabiner to a rope. Hitch her up and lead her back to your office ...

    (Note: this will not end well for you, but your office will be hugely entertained. And the story might well end the trend.)

    Replies: @epebble

  52. @Pixo
    @AnotherDad

    Wisconsin has the fattest blacks:

    https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/maps/2021/Black_2021.svg

    Obesity rate for N-H Whites

    https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/maps/2021/White_2021.svg

    Replies: @Thomm

    Wisconsin has the fattest blacks:

    Low sunlight combined with high melanin leads to Vitamin D deficiencies.

    A good way to get more Vitamin D without supplements is to consume the ample cheese that Wisconsin produces.

    Hence, all is explained.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Thomm

    Yet Maine is further north than Wisconsin and their blacks are much thinner...

    ...because they're mostly Somali beanpoles, not ADOS.

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Thomm

    Just how lactose intolerant are blacks on average?

  53. These are hitting blacks and Hispanics especially hard during the depolicing of the “racial reckoning.”

    And how is this a bad thing for the US long term? Seems like this is very likely eugenic

  54. @AnotherDad
    @Pixo


    Why are fatties unattractive? A 300lb 20 year old is more fertile than a trim 36yo. And yet…

    Doesn’t make a lot of evolutionary sense.

    My best explanation is that there weren’t many 300 pounders in our evolutionary history, so men didn’t evolve much attraction to them.
     

    Attraction to the hourglass curve is evolutionarily correct.

    The middle is not supposed to be taken already, it's supposed to look relatively empty and signal "your baby goes here".

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @Achmed E. Newman

    It makes complete evolutionary sense. For the last 300,000 years any individual that fat would have simply been a burden on the tribe. Unable to gather food effectively, prone to debilitating injury, unable to flee from predatory animals or marauders from neighboring tribes. Seems logical we would have an evolutionary aversion to morbid obesity, which would have been a far worse handicap even than blindness or a missing limb in a hunter gatherer culture.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Peter Akuleyev

    "For the last 300,000 years any individual that fat would have simply been a burden on the tribe. Unable to gather food effectively"

    OTOH being that fat says "I have access to ample supplies of food".


    In hunter-gatherer days she'd be too busy gathering to get that fat, but once agriculture was invented...


    Some men are horny enough they will bang anything with a pulse. Like Captain Ahab, they'll hunt the great whale, but unlike him they'll hunt because it's an easier target.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

  55. OT – Swimmer and pro biological women Riley Gaines is assaulted by men pretending to be women in San Franshitsco:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/watch-riley-gaines-whisked-to-safety-after-being-assaulted-at-san-francisco-event/ar-AA19AtX8

  56. @Arclight
    Gee, one might conclude that an orderly society in which anti-social behavior is subject to major negative incentives produces better outcomes for all. Too bad the ideology that has captured schools, media and every major city advocates for the opposite of that.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Tiny Duck, @Colin Wright

    ‘Gee, one might conclude that an orderly society in which anti-social behavior is subject to major negative incentives produces better outcomes for all…’

    That would do for a start, but really, what we want to get back to is a healthy society in which anti-social behavior is an aberration.

    Crime should — almost by definition — be virtually unheard of. In a healthy society, people just don’t commit it. I’ve seen this — outside of the United States.

    • Replies: @Arclight
    @Colin Wright

    Unfortunately we have the most troublesome subgroup in the entire first world to contend with so we'll never get down to Iceland-levels of public order, but with enough social and governmental pressure we could drive down the crime rate quite a bit. Naturally the Dems would say it's anti-black or something to that effect but for once they'd be right. Still, it would be better for everyone.

  57. @AnotherDad
    @Pixo


    Why are fatties unattractive? A 300lb 20 year old is more fertile than a trim 36yo. And yet…

    Doesn’t make a lot of evolutionary sense.

    My best explanation is that there weren’t many 300 pounders in our evolutionary history, so men didn’t evolve much attraction to them.
     

    Attraction to the hourglass curve is evolutionarily correct.

    The middle is not supposed to be taken already, it's supposed to look relatively empty and signal "your baby goes here".

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @Achmed E. Newman

    Agreed. For Pixo, the problem with someone like that getting pregnant is, how do you know?

  58. @Jack D
    @Almost Missouri

    No, overall life expectancy fell 2021 vs 2020. Black by .7 years, white by 1.0 years. 2022 numbers not out yet.


    [American Indian] life expectancy has declined 6.6 years[!] from 2019 to 2021.[but no one cares about Indians]

    Non-Hispanic white people in the United States had the second biggest decline in life expectancy in 2021 – one full year from 77.4 in 2020 to 76.4 in 2021. Non-Hispanic Black people had the third biggest decline, a 0.7 year drop from 71.5 years in 2020 to 70.8 in 2021. Life expectancy at birth in 2021 was the lowest for both groups since 1995. After a large (4.0 year) drop in life expectancy from 2019 to 2020, Hispanic people in the U.S. had a slight decline in 2021 of 0.2 years to 77.6 years. Life expectancy for non-Hispanic Asian people also dropped slightly in 2021 – 0.1 years – to 83.5 years, the highest life expectancy of any race/ethnic group included in this analysis.
     
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2022/20220831.htm#:~:text=Non%2DHispanic%20Black%20people%20had,2020%20to%2070.8%20in%202021.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Colin Wright

    I wonder how Jews are doing.

    I’m not insinuating anything — I’m just wondering.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Colin Wright

    I suspect about as well as Asians - a slight uptick in deaths of the elderly due to Covid but not a lot of increase in either Deaths of Despair or Deaths of Exuberance.

  59. @ATBOTL
    Hispanics are not looking good in this data. Hispanic gang violence is out of control right now, but the media rarely talks about it. When the country was much less hispanic in the 1980's and 90's, hispanic gangs were a staple of both news and entertainment media.

    Here's a heartwarming story about a hispanic gang banger with Down syndrome who went on a killing spree in Chicago.


    https://nypost.com/2023/04/06/alleged-chicago-gang-member-with-down-syndrome-nicholas-samudio-indicted-in-two-separate-murders/

    Alleged gang member with Down syndrome indicted in separate Chicago murders: report

    An alleged gang member with Down syndrome has been charged with the murders of two men just 10 days apart in Chicago, according to a local report.

    Nicholas “Smush” Samudio, a reputed member of the Latin Kings, has been indicted on a slew of felony murder charges in the Feb. 16 fatal road-rage shooting of Humberto Marin-Garcia and the Feb. 26 slaying of Tomas Villa in a possible case of mistaken identity, the Chicago Sun Times reported.

    Samudio — who has been diagnosed with the genetic disorder, according to his public defender — was arrested following a police chase in a stolen vehicle after the second shooting.
     

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘Hispanics are not looking good in this data. Hispanic gang violence is out of control right now, but the media rarely talks about it. When the country was much less hispanic in the 1980’s and 90’s, hispanic gangs were a staple of both news and entertainment media…’

    I would guess they were also a staple of law enforcement.

    Aside from everything else, if the police are paying attention to you, it becomes very dysfunctional to graduate from the odd turf fight and stealing cars to actually killing people and committing armed robberies; there’s an enormous incentive to keep it within reason.

    How demoralized are urban police departments? I would assume the problem’s pretty bad.

  60. @Tiny Duck
    @Arclight

    Then how come frat boys, rednecks, Jesus freaks, and jocks get everything handed to them on a silver platter?

    Replies: @Meretricious, @tyrone, @Rocko

    Then how come frat boys, rednecks, Jesus freaks, and jocks get everything handed to them on a silver platter?

    Tiny, 3 of 4 of those unique categories seem to have Mr Honkie as the LCD. Is that your point?

  61. @Peter Akuleyev
    @AnotherDad

    It makes complete evolutionary sense. For the last 300,000 years any individual that fat would have simply been a burden on the tribe. Unable to gather food effectively, prone to debilitating injury, unable to flee from predatory animals or marauders from neighboring tribes. Seems logical we would have an evolutionary aversion to morbid obesity, which would have been a far worse handicap even than blindness or a missing limb in a hunter gatherer culture.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “For the last 300,000 years any individual that fat would have simply been a burden on the tribe. Unable to gather food effectively”

    OTOH being that fat says “I have access to ample supplies of food”.

    In hunter-gatherer days she’d be too busy gathering to get that fat, but once agriculture was invented…

    Some men are horny enough they will bang anything with a pulse. Like Captain Ahab, they’ll hunt the great whale, but unlike him they’ll hunt because it’s an easier target.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @YetAnotherAnon

    “Pleasingly plump” can be a sign of status and surplus in an agricultural culture but modern American morbid obesity was almost impossible to achieve before the late 20th century without pituitary gland failure. None of our evolutionary history prepares us for 400 lb women. Hence we read it as freakish and our deepest instincts kick in telling us this person is not a viable human being.

  62. @Tiny Duck
    @Arclight

    Then how come frat boys, rednecks, Jesus freaks, and jocks get everything handed to them on a silver platter?

    Replies: @Meretricious, @tyrone, @Rocko

    everything handed to them on a silver platter?

    ……..Screw silver, I demand GOLD!…straight WHITE males deserve it!

  63. @Mark G.
    Case and Deaton brought attention to the fact that deaths had been increasing among the white working class from 2000-20014. For the next three years, 2015-2017, overall life expectancy was actually decreasing in the U.S. It then decreased again in 2020-2021. Life expectancy decreasing five out of seven years is unprecedented in this country.

    The corrupt ruling elites have failed when their subjects are becoming poorer and dying earlier. I don't personally advocate violence against individuals, but we need to do everything short of that to bring those responsible for this to justice. People like Fauci, who contributed to the death of millions by funding a dangerous disease, need to be put on trial. If he is found guilty, which I think he should be, I don't see how you can say anything other than the death penalty would be morally appropriate for someone contributing to so many deaths and so much suffering. Others like Biden, Harris, Pelosi etc. really belong in prison instead of in positions of power. I think this is unlikely but eventually things will become so bad our current elites will lose their grip on power. Future history books are likely to cast our current American governing elites as major villains and those who opposed them as heroic.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    The corrupt ruling elites have failed when their subjects are becoming poorer and dying earlier. I don’t personally advocate violence against individuals, but we need to do everything short of that to bring those responsible for this to justice.

    Our elite is right up there with the worst in human history.

    People like Fauci, who contributed to the death of millions by funding a dangerous disease, need to be put on trial. If he is found guilty, which I think he should be, I don’t see how you can say anything other than the death penalty would be morally appropriate for someone contributing to so many deaths and so much suffering.

    That Fauci has not even been investigated–what the hell are the Republicans doing?–much less tried is just ridiculous.

    A state AG could charge him with at least manslaughter. If nothing else a civil suit against him, Peter Daszak and the Eco Health Alliance people for billions in medical costs. It is much more credible than the tobacco shakedown lawsuits–tobacco is negative personal choice, some of the medical costs of which states have chosen to absorb. No one freely chose this covid crap.

    We do not even fight these bastards. It’s appalling.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @AnotherDad

    A state AG could charge him with at least manslaughter. If nothing else a civil suit against him, Peter Daszak and the Eco Health Alliance people for billions in medical costs.

    In all likelihood, he would prevail on the basis of qualified immunity.

  64. @VinnyVette
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Are there any data for attempted suicide by firearm? How many Blacks! tried to shoot themselves and missed?

    Maybe their vaunted ghetto gun technique is backfiring!

    https://urbancarryholsters.com/pub/media/blog/cache/840x620/wysiwyg/Blogs/GangsterGrip/Gangster_Grip_ftrd_img.png

    Replies: @JimDandy

    Real funny. Gun are manufactured to conform to white wrist tendons.

    • Replies: @VinnyVette
    @JimDandy

    Real funny. Gun are manufactured to conform to white wrist tendons.

    Guns are racist!

    Replies: @JimDandy

  65. @Meretricious
    And then there's another "exuberant" category at which the Negro excels--"feral interracial murders of exuberance." True to form, the NY Post does not permit reader comments on stories dealing with our favorite minority's propensity for interracial murder.

    https://nypost.com/2023/04/06/social-worker-butchered-by-ax-wielding-homeless-woman-in-vermont-shelter/

    Replies: @Pixo

    • Thanks: Meretricious
  66. @epebble
    @Kylie

    And metal, as in piercings. Some young people have such weird piercings that one would think they are from Papua New Guinea. There is a young woman in my workplace with

    https://i.etsystatic.com/8562134/r/il/86dee6/2287939761/il_794xN.2287939761_m7zm.jpg

    I can't suppress the thought that I am looking at a cow.

    Replies: @Pixo, @AnotherDad

    These stupid South Asian type thin tiny nose rings became common about 3 years ago very suddenly in otherwise attractive women, not tatted slags.

    On the bright side, the huge gauge type ear discs are now out of style. But the women with them were already ugly.

  67. @Stan Adams
    @Pixo

    https://i.ibb.co/7rfwswz/1-B7-CE2-B1-4939-4-BF0-8720-276-EF866-A6-B7.jpg

    Replies: @Pixo, @I. Racist

    To be fair I like em big too. Not neolithic fertility statue big though.

  68. @Condor
    A Brattleboro, Vermont woman.

    Zaaina Asra Zakirrah Mahvish-Jammeh took an axe
    and gave her social worker forty whacks.

    https://twitter.com/MagicBelle1/status/1643623552019562497?s=20

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Mr. XYZ

    HATCHET WIELDING WOMAN HACKS SHELTER WORKER TO DEATH. April 3, 2023. Brattleboro, Vermont. Zaaina Asra Zakirrah Mahvish-Jammeh, 38, was arrested for killing a homeless shelter coordinator, Leah Rosin-Pritchard, with a hunting hatchet she had purchased over the weekend.…

    The insanity, the sheer evil that created this, just makes my blood boil.

    What the hell is this thing even doing in the US? This Leah gal should be nurturing her own children not trying to “help” this piece of shit.

    Yeah Ms Rosin-Pritchard–good white woman–and I probably agree on pretty much nothing. But iin a free republic, productive responsible men are supposed to be in charge making better decisions.

    We must face the reality of our predicament. This isn’t some “difference of opinion”. We have a vile elite, infested with these evil, genocidal “must have immigration” bleaters who wish to see our people, our nation destroyed … and are getting it done.

    It is us or them. We must either stop them and hang them on lampposts, or separate ourselves from them. Otherwise … we are dead.

    Us or them.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @AnotherDad


    It is us or them. We must either stop them and hang them on lampposts, or separate ourselves from them.
     
    Cue Preacher Crow, aka Corvinus, to tell us why these "evil, genocidal bleaters" are just as valid a choice for white voters as anyone we might support-- if not more.
  69. @epebble
    @Kylie

    And metal, as in piercings. Some young people have such weird piercings that one would think they are from Papua New Guinea. There is a young woman in my workplace with

    https://i.etsystatic.com/8562134/r/il/86dee6/2287939761/il_794xN.2287939761_m7zm.jpg

    I can't suppress the thought that I am looking at a cow.

    Replies: @Pixo, @AnotherDad

    I can’t suppress the thought that I am looking at a cow.

    Tie a small locking carabiner to a rope. Hitch her up and lead her back to your office …

    (Note: this will not end well for you, but your office will be hugely entertained. And the story might well end the trend.)

    • Replies: @epebble
    @AnotherDad

    On the other hand, I am acutely conscious if my eyes may gaze on that ring a bit too long. I have this problem with tattoos and tattered clothing (fashion, not poverty) too.

  70. @Mr. Blank
    I wonder if the rise in black suicides was partially due to COVID. Blacks are famously gregarious; I imagine lockdowns weren’t a great experience for them.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Sort of but really they just ignored the lockdown. They were doing sideshows every night.

  71. @Pixo
    @AnotherDad

    Why are fatties unattractive? A 300lb 20 year old is more fertile than a trim 36yo. And yet…

    Doesn’t make a lot of evolutionary sense.

    My best explanation is that there weren’t many 300 pounders in our evolutionary history, so men didn’t evolve much attraction to them.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @AnotherDad, @J.Ross, @Dumbo, @David Jones, @Abelard Lindsey

    If you think about it, the only thing a woman has to do is not get fat. It’d be nice if she was cultured, or had some point of beauty, but that’s not necessary. So allowing yourself to get fat is the signal that you have given up, the same way that having skills and hobbies and a tight athletic body is the signal that you are very far from giving up.

    • Agree: Renard
  72. @usNthem
    See, there are other things in which blacks are better than Whites, besides running and jumping, with the added bonus of reducing their population.

    Replies: @Vito Klein, @Corvinus

    Blacks are not the enemy

    • Disagree: Meretricious, Mike Tre
    • Replies: @ATate
    @Vito Klein

    What are you, 12? Or you’re some dipshit Gen-X’er that swallowed, I mean believed, all that tripe we were sold in the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s.

    Face it, the South was right when it comes to blacks. Individuals are fine, but as a whole group? An absolute blight on our country bar none.

    You’re safe, you can say “things” but your children will need to make a choice. Help them make the white one.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    , @J.Ross
    @Vito Klein

    Not the ultimate, mos def the proximate.

  73. @Abelard Lindsey

    Push back from the plate! Then–much easier now–find a good man, have kids with him,
     
    Getting rid of the obesity is the key here. Loose the weight. Join a gym, work out, and get into shape. I don't see having or not having kids is relevant here. In my experience, on average the women who don't have kids tend to be in better shape than those that do.

    Replies: @Ripple Earthdevil, @Anonymous

    “Loose” the weight?

    Why is this particular spelling error so common and never goes away?

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    Because the spelling and phonetics are somewhat of an anomaly.

    Lose sounds like choose, but looks like it should sound like hose, rose, or nose. Loose looks like it should sound like choose, and it confuses the brain.

    That's my theory anyway.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Ripple Earthdevil


    Why is this particular spelling error so common and never goes away?
     
    It's the "oo" sound. I've been tempted by it myself. Seems like if you are getting it with an "o", instead of a long "u", it should be "oo" ... so folks are tempted toward "loose".

    "Lose" in contrast looks like it ought to rhyme with "hose". (Long "o"). But it doesn't. It's another "00" sound with the "se" being pronounced as a "z".

    English--overall a pretty simple grammar, but lots of kludgy spelling and pronunciation, including winners like the vowel shift and non-locality.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Ripple Earthdevil


    “Loose” the weight?
     
    Let it loose! Free at last!

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @res
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    Good explanations in the other responses. I'll just add that the more it is seen in print (or pixels) the more likely it becomes people will do it. A vicious cycle.

  74. @prime noticer
    that significant increase in suicides for africans is surprising. they don't usually do stuff like that.

    Replies: @Vito Klein

    that significant increase in suicides for africans is surprising. they don’t usually do stuff like that.

    Native Americans have traditionally had the highest suicide rates with a period during which whites overtook them beginning in about 2008.

    Up until about the 80s, if I remember correctly, blacks had a higher suicide rate than whites

  75. @Thomm
    @Pixo


    Wisconsin has the fattest blacks:
     
    Low sunlight combined with high melanin leads to Vitamin D deficiencies.

    A good way to get more Vitamin D without supplements is to consume the ample cheese that Wisconsin produces.

    Hence, all is explained.

    Replies: @Brutusale, @Mr. XYZ

    Yet Maine is further north than Wisconsin and their blacks are much thinner…

    …because they’re mostly Somali beanpoles, not ADOS.

  76. @Ripple Earthdevil
    @Abelard Lindsey

    "Loose" the weight?

    Why is this particular spelling error so common and never goes away?

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @AnotherDad, @Reg Cæsar, @res

    Because the spelling and phonetics are somewhat of an anomaly.

    Lose sounds like choose, but looks like it should sound like hose, rose, or nose. Loose looks like it should sound like choose, and it confuses the brain.

    That’s my theory anyway.

  77. @AnotherDad
    @epebble


    I can’t suppress the thought that I am looking at a cow.
     
    Tie a small locking carabiner to a rope. Hitch her up and lead her back to your office ...

    (Note: this will not end well for you, but your office will be hugely entertained. And the story might well end the trend.)

    Replies: @epebble

    On the other hand, I am acutely conscious if my eyes may gaze on that ring a bit too long. I have this problem with tattoos and tattered clothing (fashion, not poverty) too.

  78. @Vito Klein
    @usNthem

    Blacks are not the enemy

    Replies: @ATate, @J.Ross

    What are you, 12? Or you’re some dipshit Gen-X’er that swallowed, I mean believed, all that tripe we were sold in the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s.

    Face it, the South was right when it comes to blacks. Individuals are fine, but as a whole group? An absolute blight on our country bar none.

    You’re safe, you can say “things” but your children will need to make a choice. Help them make the white one.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @ATate

    I think he's asserting that blacks are not the ultimate enemy, and were it not for the ral ultimate enemy, blacks would not be as gigantic a problem.

  79. @Vito Klein
    @usNthem

    Blacks are not the enemy

    Replies: @ATate, @J.Ross

    Not the ultimate, mos def the proximate.

  80. @Colin Wright
    @Jack D

    I wonder how Jews are doing.

    I'm not insinuating anything -- I'm just wondering.

    Replies: @Jack D

    I suspect about as well as Asians – a slight uptick in deaths of the elderly due to Covid but not a lot of increase in either Deaths of Despair or Deaths of Exuberance.

  81. @Ripple Earthdevil
    @Abelard Lindsey

    "Loose" the weight?

    Why is this particular spelling error so common and never goes away?

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @AnotherDad, @Reg Cæsar, @res

    Why is this particular spelling error so common and never goes away?

    It’s the “oo” sound. I’ve been tempted by it myself. Seems like if you are getting it with an “o”, instead of a long “u”, it should be “oo” … so folks are tempted toward “loose”.

    “Lose” in contrast looks like it ought to rhyme with “hose”. (Long “o”). But it doesn’t. It’s another “00” sound with the “se” being pronounced as a “z”.

    English–overall a pretty simple grammar, but lots of kludgy spelling and pronunciation, including winners like the vowel shift and non-locality.

  82. Despite the growth of Black deaths of exuberance , Whites still lead in deaths of despair.
    The suicide rates for Whites is more than double the Black rate. Whites are still more likely to die of alcoholism and drugs than Blacks. Whites are twice as likely to be on antidepressants and anti-anxiety medications. Whites have lower self esteem compared to Blacks and less happy.

    Whites may have more wealth and education than Blacks but suffer from higher rates of depression, anxiety and alcoholism. We should spend less time and energy trying to reduce Black deaths of exuberance and put more effort into reducing White deaths of despair.

  83. @AnotherDad
    @Condor


    HATCHET WIELDING WOMAN HACKS SHELTER WORKER TO DEATH. April 3, 2023. Brattleboro, Vermont. Zaaina Asra Zakirrah Mahvish-Jammeh, 38, was arrested for killing a homeless shelter coordinator, Leah Rosin-Pritchard, with a hunting hatchet she had purchased over the weekend.…
     
    The insanity, the sheer evil that created this, just makes my blood boil.

    What the hell is this thing even doing in the US? This Leah gal should be nurturing her own children not trying to "help" this piece of shit.

    Yeah Ms Rosin-Pritchard--good white woman--and I probably agree on pretty much nothing. But iin a free republic, productive responsible men are supposed to be in charge making better decisions.


    We must face the reality of our predicament. This isn't some "difference of opinion". We have a vile elite, infested with these evil, genocidal "must have immigration" bleaters who wish to see our people, our nation destroyed ... and are getting it done.

    It is us or them. We must either stop them and hang them on lampposts, or separate ourselves from them. Otherwise ... we are dead.

    Us or them.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    It is us or them. We must either stop them and hang them on lampposts, or separate ourselves from them.

    Cue Preacher Crow, aka Corvinus, to tell us why these “evil, genocidal bleaters” are just as valid a choice for white voters as anyone we might support– if not more.

  84. @Ripple Earthdevil
    @Abelard Lindsey

    "Loose" the weight?

    Why is this particular spelling error so common and never goes away?

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @AnotherDad, @Reg Cæsar, @res

    “Loose” the weight?

    Let it loose! Free at last!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3938563-congressional-black-caucus-urges-buttigieg-to-address-racial-inequality-in-traffic-enforcement/amp/

    Replies: @Renard

  85. @Stan Adams
    @Pixo

    https://i.ibb.co/7rfwswz/1-B7-CE2-B1-4939-4-BF0-8720-276-EF866-A6-B7.jpg

    Replies: @Pixo, @I. Racist

    “Hey Grug, I made a statue of your mother”
    “Screw you Og, now everyone will think we’re chubby chasers”

  86. Anonymous[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    @Ripple Earthdevil


    “Loose” the weight?
     
    Let it loose! Free at last!

    Replies: @Anonymous

    • Replies: @Renard
    @Anonymous

    "Driving While Black" essentially means ignoring any and all traffic regulations and just "keeping it real" by doing whatever you want at all times. Drugs for instance.

    Accidents happen but so what? Just like fights, shootouts, whatever. Only whites get worked up over sjt like that.

    Blacks shouldn't have to pay for insurance because insurance is a white supremacist concept, just like traffic rules. And like having kids in wedlock. Lock? Sounds like chains right? Who else is triggered here.

  87. @JimDandy
    @VinnyVette

    Real funny. Gun are manufactured to conform to white wrist tendons.

    Replies: @VinnyVette

    Real funny. Gun are manufactured to conform to white wrist tendons.

    Guns are racist!

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @VinnyVette

    Blacks using guns is classic cultural appropriation.

  88. @VinnyVette
    @JimDandy

    Real funny. Gun are manufactured to conform to white wrist tendons.

    Guns are racist!

    Replies: @JimDandy

    Blacks using guns is classic cultural appropriation.

    • LOL: VinnyVette
  89. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Peter Akuleyev

    "For the last 300,000 years any individual that fat would have simply been a burden on the tribe. Unable to gather food effectively"

    OTOH being that fat says "I have access to ample supplies of food".


    In hunter-gatherer days she'd be too busy gathering to get that fat, but once agriculture was invented...


    Some men are horny enough they will bang anything with a pulse. Like Captain Ahab, they'll hunt the great whale, but unlike him they'll hunt because it's an easier target.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

    “Pleasingly plump” can be a sign of status and surplus in an agricultural culture but modern American morbid obesity was almost impossible to achieve before the late 20th century without pituitary gland failure. None of our evolutionary history prepares us for 400 lb women. Hence we read it as freakish and our deepest instincts kick in telling us this person is not a viable human being.

  90. @Tiny Duck
    @Arclight

    Then how come frat boys, rednecks, Jesus freaks, and jocks get everything handed to them on a silver platter?

    Replies: @Meretricious, @tyrone, @Rocko

    Really? Whining about muh reparations. Good luck extorting the other minorities out of that you monkeys

  91. Maybe I’m just not a statistics nerd, but I am not convinced that this “deaths of exuberance” thing exists at all, nor that traffic accidents are up because George Fentanloyd is dead.

    The weird lockdowns, and the current economic downturn, seem to be a more logical and common explanation for such changes.

  92. @Pixo
    @AnotherDad

    Why are fatties unattractive? A 300lb 20 year old is more fertile than a trim 36yo. And yet…

    Doesn’t make a lot of evolutionary sense.

    My best explanation is that there weren’t many 300 pounders in our evolutionary history, so men didn’t evolve much attraction to them.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @AnotherDad, @J.Ross, @Dumbo, @David Jones, @Abelard Lindsey

    Doesn’t make a lot of evolutionary sense.

    Fatsos don’t make “evolutionary sense”.
    Homos don’t make “evolutionary sense”.
    Trans freaks don’t make “evolutionary sense”.

    Your common HBD zombie is puzzled. Gee, it’s almost as this “evolutionary sense” should be renamed “evolutionary nonsense”, and we must accept that there are other things that drive changes in society, culture and humanity?

  93. @Renard
    @AnotherDad


    Top Gut: US Air Force is loosening recruits' body fat requirements to 26% BMI for men and 36% for women to try to boost recruitment (despite growing military fitness crisis)

    https://mol.im/a/11949391

     

    36% for women? How much for black women? And why stop at 36% ?? Why not aim for 100%? You can do this, America! 🇺🇸

    Replies: @anon

    You can do this, America! 🇺🇸

    america f# yeah!

  94. @Pixo
    @AnotherDad

    Why are fatties unattractive? A 300lb 20 year old is more fertile than a trim 36yo. And yet…

    Doesn’t make a lot of evolutionary sense.

    My best explanation is that there weren’t many 300 pounders in our evolutionary history, so men didn’t evolve much attraction to them.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @AnotherDad, @J.Ross, @Dumbo, @David Jones, @Abelard Lindsey

    Women who are constantly stuffing their faces with potato chips and ice cream and who can’t walk up three steps without wheezing are unattractive full stop.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @David Jones

    Nobody's perfect.

  95. • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @prime noticer

    Odds are, an effect that large is BS.

  96. @Kylie
    @AnotherDad

    "Unattractiveness is huge. Retired now to the beach, the 'fats and tats' issue is just stunning."

    It's the same here in my small town in a flyover state. I see so many young women not just kind of chunky but obese, massively bloated. And they usually have tats. The young men are somewhat less obese but no more attractive. Honestly, the two sexes don't look much different from one another. They're both pudgy, pasty and covered in ink.

    It's not just unattractive, it's unhealthy. My obese neighbor has an obese daughter in her mid-20s. Her recent pregnancy was risky because her blood pressure is so high.

    Recently I saw a video clip of some 80s show and the actors were all gorgeous. Trim, well-dressed with shiny, styled hair. The men all looked like men, the women all looked like women. It was shocking. They actually didn't all have beautiful bodies and faces. But they all looked groomed and healthy.

    We have fallen so far so fast.

    Replies: @epebble, @Renard

    People may hate me for saying this, but it’s plain depressing to be around fat people. I avoid them like the plague.

  97. @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3938563-congressional-black-caucus-urges-buttigieg-to-address-racial-inequality-in-traffic-enforcement/amp/

    Replies: @Renard

    “Driving While Black” essentially means ignoring any and all traffic regulations and just “keeping it real” by doing whatever you want at all times. Drugs for instance.

    Accidents happen but so what? Just like fights, shootouts, whatever. Only whites get worked up over sjt like that.

    Blacks shouldn’t have to pay for insurance because insurance is a white supremacist concept, just like traffic rules. And like having kids in wedlock. Lock? Sounds like chains right? Who else is triggered here.

  98. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Buzz Mohawk

    To clarify, how many tried to kill themselves with a gun but only managed to get badly injured?

    It happens. I used to know somebody who had a friend living with him who was slow and not all there. The friend had tried to commit suicide with a gun, but he didn't stick it in his mouth and aim for the vital parts of the brain. Instead, he pointed the gun at the side of his head and only managed to give himself something like a crude lobotomy.

    Replies: @Feryl, @Adam Smith

    Shooting yourself in the back of the head twice with a smaller caliber gun usually works pretty well.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Feryl

    Yes, Feryl, I'd like to see a county-by-county map of these US's, that is Unorthodox Suicides, as you note. From the data that I've compiled, there was a nexus of this sort of behavior for some reason centered around the State of Arkansas in the early 1990s. However, fast-forward a few years, and the darker regions of the US map move toward the Washington, FS area. I'd really like to see some kind of good explanation from iSteve on this stuff - I'm flat-out mystified.

  99. @Colin Wright
    @Arclight


    'Gee, one might conclude that an orderly society in which anti-social behavior is subject to major negative incentives produces better outcomes for all...'
     
    That would do for a start, but really, what we want to get back to is a healthy society in which anti-social behavior is an aberration.

    Crime should -- almost by definition -- be virtually unheard of. In a healthy society, people just don't commit it. I've seen this -- outside of the United States.

    Replies: @Arclight

    Unfortunately we have the most troublesome subgroup in the entire first world to contend with so we’ll never get down to Iceland-levels of public order, but with enough social and governmental pressure we could drive down the crime rate quite a bit. Naturally the Dems would say it’s anti-black or something to that effect but for once they’d be right. Still, it would be better for everyone.

  100. @Feryl
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Shooting yourself in the back of the head twice with a smaller caliber gun usually works pretty well.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Yes, Feryl, I’d like to see a county-by-county map of these US’s, that is Unorthodox Suicides, as you note. From the data that I’ve compiled, there was a nexus of this sort of behavior for some reason centered around the State of Arkansas in the early 1990s. However, fast-forward a few years, and the darker regions of the US map move toward the Washington, FS area. I’d really like to see some kind of good explanation from iSteve on this stuff – I’m flat-out mystified.

    • LOL: Adam Smith
  101. @Ripple Earthdevil
    @Abelard Lindsey

    "Loose" the weight?

    Why is this particular spelling error so common and never goes away?

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @AnotherDad, @Reg Cæsar, @res

    Good explanations in the other responses. I’ll just add that the more it is seen in print (or pixels) the more likely it becomes people will do it. A vicious cycle.

  102. @David Jones
    @Pixo

    Women who are constantly stuffing their faces with potato chips and ice cream and who can't walk up three steps without wheezing are unattractive full stop.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    Nobody’s perfect.

  103. @usNthem
    See, there are other things in which blacks are better than Whites, besides running and jumping, with the added bonus of reducing their population.

    Replies: @Vito Klein, @Corvinus

    “with the added bonus of reducing their population.”

    Well, that had been accelerated when Roe was law, but then the GOP and the evangelicals got into a tizzy, so abortion is illegal in a number of states. You’d think that they would be embracing this eugenic policy for that reason alone—the removal of darkies from the white gene pool. I mean, that’s your end goal, right? How noble and just you are!

    How are you doing, considering that your daughter has mixed offspring? Must be wreaking havoc in your family…

  104. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Buzz Mohawk

    To clarify, how many tried to kill themselves with a gun but only managed to get badly injured?

    It happens. I used to know somebody who had a friend living with him who was slow and not all there. The friend had tried to commit suicide with a gun, but he didn't stick it in his mouth and aim for the vital parts of the brain. Instead, he pointed the gun at the side of his head and only managed to give himself something like a crude lobotomy.

    Replies: @Feryl, @Adam Smith

    Greetings, Buzz,

    Sticking a gun in one’s mouth and aiming for the vital parts of the brain is not advisable.
    Too easy to live through…

    Katie Stubblefield who shot her face off gets a face transplant
    26 year old man shares incredible face transplant journey

  105. @ATate
    @Vito Klein

    What are you, 12? Or you’re some dipshit Gen-X’er that swallowed, I mean believed, all that tripe we were sold in the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s.

    Face it, the South was right when it comes to blacks. Individuals are fine, but as a whole group? An absolute blight on our country bar none.

    You’re safe, you can say “things” but your children will need to make a choice. Help them make the white one.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    I think he’s asserting that blacks are not the ultimate enemy, and were it not for the ral ultimate enemy, blacks would not be as gigantic a problem.

  106. Anonymous[309] • Disclaimer says:
    @Adolf Smith
    @Redneck farmer

    The Asians seem to have experienced a jump in suicide. Maybe the academic problems from Covid.
    Thank God the white increase was relatively small,but built on a big base.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Probably due to the anti-Asian sentiments recently.

  107. @Anon
    @AnotherDad

    Here's the problem though: there's no case to be made for whites "losing America" particularly from 2000-2010. Meanwhile minorities were undergoing real hardships that have ameliorated since 2010.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    Meanwhile minorities were undergoing real hardships

    Such as?

  108. @Pixo
    @AnotherDad

    Why are fatties unattractive? A 300lb 20 year old is more fertile than a trim 36yo. And yet…

    Doesn’t make a lot of evolutionary sense.

    My best explanation is that there weren’t many 300 pounders in our evolutionary history, so men didn’t evolve much attraction to them.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @AnotherDad, @J.Ross, @Dumbo, @David Jones, @Abelard Lindsey

    It is truly unfortunate for aesthetics alone that obesity does not reduce fertility. Given how unhealthy it is, you would think it would impact fertility.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Abelard Lindsey


    It is truly unfortunate for aesthetics alone that obesity does not reduce fertility. Given how unhealthy it is, you would think it would impact fertility.
     
    Obesity does affect fertility negatively: https://health.clevelandclinic.org/getting-pregnant-if-overweight/

    Will having a BMI in the overweight or obesity range affect your ability to get pregnant?

    Yes, having obesity or significant overweight may make it harder to get pregnant.

    “It’s a complex dance between the hormones that trigger ovulation and your progesterone and estrogen levels,” Dr. Starck explains. “Fat cells often produce higher estrogen levels, which can work against your body when it’s trying to ovulate.

    In other words, having obesity can disrupt your reproductive health, which can make it harder to get pregnant.

    And while out-of-balance hormone levels don’t always mean you’ll have trouble getting pregnant, you may experience less regular ovulation and menstrual cycles — which can make it harder to conceive.
     
  109. @AnotherDad
    @Mark G.


    The corrupt ruling elites have failed when their subjects are becoming poorer and dying earlier. I don’t personally advocate violence against individuals, but we need to do everything short of that to bring those responsible for this to justice.
     
    Our elite is right up there with the worst in human history.


    People like Fauci, who contributed to the death of millions by funding a dangerous disease, need to be put on trial. If he is found guilty, which I think he should be, I don’t see how you can say anything other than the death penalty would be morally appropriate for someone contributing to so many deaths and so much suffering.
     
    That Fauci has not even been investigated--what the hell are the Republicans doing?--much less tried is just ridiculous.

    A state AG could charge him with at least manslaughter. If nothing else a civil suit against him, Peter Daszak and the Eco Health Alliance people for billions in medical costs. It is much more credible than the tobacco shakedown lawsuits--tobacco is negative personal choice, some of the medical costs of which states have chosen to absorb. No one freely chose this covid crap.

    We do not even fight these bastards. It's appalling.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    A state AG could charge him with at least manslaughter. If nothing else a civil suit against him, Peter Daszak and the Eco Health Alliance people for billions in medical costs.

    In all likelihood, he would prevail on the basis of qualified immunity.

  110. @prime noticer
    meanwhile, in Forbes:

    Children born during the pandemic have an IQ of 78

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Odds are, an effect that large is BS.

  111. @Abelard Lindsey
    @Pixo

    It is truly unfortunate for aesthetics alone that obesity does not reduce fertility. Given how unhealthy it is, you would think it would impact fertility.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    It is truly unfortunate for aesthetics alone that obesity does not reduce fertility. Given how unhealthy it is, you would think it would impact fertility.

    Obesity does affect fertility negatively: https://health.clevelandclinic.org/getting-pregnant-if-overweight/

    Will having a BMI in the overweight or obesity range affect your ability to get pregnant?

    Yes, having obesity or significant overweight may make it harder to get pregnant.

    “It’s a complex dance between the hormones that trigger ovulation and your progesterone and estrogen levels,” Dr. Starck explains. “Fat cells often produce higher estrogen levels, which can work against your body when it’s trying to ovulate.

    In other words, having obesity can disrupt your reproductive health, which can make it harder to get pregnant.

    And while out-of-balance hormone levels don’t always mean you’ll have trouble getting pregnant, you may experience less regular ovulation and menstrual cycles — which can make it harder to conceive.

  112. @Condor
    A Brattleboro, Vermont woman.

    Zaaina Asra Zakirrah Mahvish-Jammeh took an axe
    and gave her social worker forty whacks.

    https://twitter.com/MagicBelle1/status/1643623552019562497?s=20

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Mr. XYZ

    Looks like a Muslim-on-Jew murder, no?

  113. @Thomm
    @Pixo


    Wisconsin has the fattest blacks:
     
    Low sunlight combined with high melanin leads to Vitamin D deficiencies.

    A good way to get more Vitamin D without supplements is to consume the ample cheese that Wisconsin produces.

    Hence, all is explained.

    Replies: @Brutusale, @Mr. XYZ

    Just how lactose intolerant are blacks on average?

  114. Anonymous[418] • Disclaimer says:
    @Abelard Lindsey

    Push back from the plate! Then–much easier now–find a good man, have kids with him,
     
    Getting rid of the obesity is the key here. Loose the weight. Join a gym, work out, and get into shape. I don't see having or not having kids is relevant here. In my experience, on average the women who don't have kids tend to be in better shape than those that do.

    Replies: @Ripple Earthdevil, @Anonymous

    I knew a kid with very fat parents and felt really sorry for him. He was painfully embarrassed by them and was constantly trying to get them to eat less and exercise more.

    Why would you do this to your kids? It’s like turning up at their school in a clown costume.

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