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F rom KTLA in Los Angeles:

Man who tried running for mayor of Hawthorne among 2 charged with voter fraud in L.A.
LOCAL NEWS
by: KTLA Digital Staff

Posted: Nov 17, 2020 / 10:51 AM PST / Updated: Nov 17, 2020 / 11:08 AM PST

Two men, including one who unsuccessfully attempted to run for mayor in Hawthorne, face a slew of charges after allegedly submitting thousands of unlawful voter registration applications on behalf of homeless people, prosecutors announced Tuesday.

Carlos Antonio De Bourbon-Montenegro

That’s quite a name.

, 53, and Marcos Raul Arevalo, 34, are accused of turning in the fraudulent applications between July and October of this year, according to a Los Angeles County District Attorney’s news release.

Bourbon-Montenegro, who also goes by Mark Anthony Gonsalves, allegedly submitted more than 8,000 such applications, the release read.

There were only 30,000 votes cast in the Hawthorne mayor’s race, so 8,000 fraudulent registrations submitted bespeaks of energy and ambition. Although perhaps De Bourbon-Montenegro might have called a little too much attention to his scheme.

He is also suspected of falsifying names, addresses and signatures on the nomination papers he submitted in his failed mayoral bid.

The Daily Breeze reported in August that Bourbon-Montenegro fell short of the 20 signatures required to get on the ballot.

So, not a really big or well-oiled political machine.

From De Bourbon-Montenegro’s Amazon page:

My name is Carlos Antonio De Bourbon Galdiano Montenegro. I am a Ceremonial High Magician & Occult Book Author. I have been preparing sacred ingredients and writing books for the occult community for the past 30 years. I am an initiate of the sacred mysteries of Afro-Brazilian Quimbanda/Kimbanda. I am well-known and celebrated by the International Occult World Community not only as an experienced magician of Afro-Brazilian Ceremonial High Magick, but also acknowledged as an expert and leading authority of the Occult Black Arts, Gnosticism and the magickal folklore traditions of Latin America, Europe and Africa.

I hope you enjoy my occult books.

So, I’m not sure that one can draw too many broadly applicable inferences about vote fraud from Senhor De Bourbon-Montenegro. He sounds a little idiosyncratic.

 
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  1. Rob McX says:

    In that picture he looks like a cross between Dwayne Johnson and Aleister Crowley.

  2. I have always had a vague sense of Louisiana vibes in the LA Black community. That might explain the exotic name and esoteric leanings.

  3. notsaying says:

    As I so often do, I wonder how this man got here? Under what immigration category did he get here and why oh why are we stuck with him?

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    , @J.Ross
  4. So, there’s still no evidence of fraud in American elections.

    • LOL: Pop Warner
  5. @notsaying

    Probably born here, and a citizen with a active imagination. Almost certain it’s a made up name. The trend in my city is for esoteric blacks to adapt Egyptian names. Being in LA, this guy is into Spanish alchemy instead.

  6. You’d be surprised by how often elite individuals (Hollywood celebs, military commanders, Intel agents, DC insiders, etc) get involved with the Occult.

    If you want to learn more, read the site “Vigilant Citizen.”

    It’s literally stuff out of “Eyes Wide Shut.”

    Just one example.

    Look at this.

    Podesta’s wife. What is that thing around her neck?

    Why did Epstein have a temple on his island? Have any of you constructed this type of temple?

    At this point, you got to ask….. What the hell is going on here?

    Do global elites get together to perform Satanic rituals and molest children?

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Jake
    , @J.Ross
    , @BB753
  7. Anon[391] • Disclaimer says:

    Bourbon-Montenegro, who also goes by Mark Anthony Gonsalves, …

    This reminds me of the 1960s supermodel Twiggy’s boyfriend/manager/impressario:

    Her hairdresser boyfriend, Nigel Davies, working as a Leonard of Mayfair hairdresser under the name Christian St. Forget, became her manager, changed his name (again) to Justin de Villeneuve, and persuaded her to change her name to Twiggy (from “Twigs,” her childhood nickname).

  8. Anonymous[302] • Disclaimer says:

    There’s a scene in The Irishman depicting the Chicago mob engaging in voter fraud on behalf of JFK, which you’ve talked about:

    Also there’s a report that the boss of the Philly mob, “Skinny Joey” Merlino, delivered a bunch of votes for Biden in Philly:

  9. Anon[391] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Mariah Carey’s Sister Accuses Mother Of Abuse During Satanic Rituals

    I’m guessing that you’re a bit younger than many of us who lived through McMartin preschool, Satanic ritual abuse, alien abduction, and all the other weird “recovered memory” cases of the 1980s. Until the first resurrection of the bogus Woody Allen allegations happened there was a professor named Elizabeth Loftus who researched this kind of fake memory. In this particular case, it might be a deliberate lie by someone too dumb to know that Satanic abuse allegations are always fake. Loftus disappeared from the media because the idea that “women might not always be telling the truth” is misogyny and ACTUAL VIOLENCE representatiave of the hegemonic white patriarchy.

    Loftus did some hilarious experiments before they tightened up Institutional Review Board rules on research ethics. She was able to implant memories into subjects that they swore were real.

    Around the same period we had Gulf War syndrome, chronic fatigue syndrome,” and a revival of multiple personalty/Sybil cases. It was a wild ride, and then it disappeared (except CRS made a big comeback with the internet and has blossomed into many other things, like rapid onset gender dysphoria).

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  10. @Anonymous

    The book that “The Irishman” is based on also contends that the mobsters helped Joe Biden get elected to the Senate in 1972 by shutting down distribution of a newspaper containing an article about a Biden scandal.

    Granted, the book that the movie is based on is mostly hooey dreamed up to make some money for the guy’s four daughters after he is dead. But the funny thing is that mob scheme involving Biden is a direct analog for how Twitter and Facebook shutdown the New York Post’s article on Hunter Biden.

    • Replies: @James O'Meara
  11. I am an initiate of the sacred mysteries of Afro-Brazilian Quimbanda/Kimbanda. I am well-known and celebrated by the International Occult World Community not only as an experienced magician of Afro-Brazilian Ceremonial High Magick, but also acknowledged as an expert and leading authority of the Occult Black Arts, Gnosticism and the magickal folklore etc etc blah blah blah.

    That’s a whole lotta big words there, cowboy. Why don’t you jump on the team and just stick with “Black Black Blackety Black” like the locals do? Helps cut down on the confusion ’round here.

    • LOL: William Badwhite
    • Replies: @Macumazahn
  12. Anonymous[864] • Disclaimer says:

    Is globalism a vague term for an almost surgical application of community poison yet?

  13. Cortes says:
    @Clifford Brown

    Maybe a fan of the Easy Rawlins novels by Walter Mosley? The Montenegro part of the name also suggests a Nero Wolfe fan.

    How exactly can he be “among” two guys arrested, incidentally?

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  14. El Dato says:

    I am well-known and celebrated by the International Occult World Community not only as an experienced magician of Afro-Brazilian Ceremonial High Magick

    Think of the massive amount of white chicks this man has likely banged in incense-filled dungeons.

    • Agree: Abe
    • Replies: @James O'Meara
    , @Alden
  15. El Dato says:

    OT: Best comment on recent plans to force-diversify London’s police force:

    Forcing 40% of London’s police to be from BAME backgrounds is virtue-signalling nonsense & will do nothing to tackle crime

    So, what is all this nonsense by Mayor Khan insisting on having 40 percent BAME in the Met Police, to match the percentage of the city’s population? How is that going to help or make things better? Yes it might make some of our well-meaning liberals or those suffering from post-colonial guilt feel warm and fuzzy to see a Nepali ex-Gurkha walking the beat (not that the police have time for that these days), but I can assure you, having worked with Gurkhas as a soldier, that Nepali police officer will not react well to insults from any black youths he deals with. Fortunately, he will not have his Kukri fighting knife with him.

    Gurkhas find a way.

    • Replies: @Romanian
  16. They made only 20% of the vote fraudulent in Trenton, and still got caught. Then again, this is traditional election fraud, so if it appears the wrong person is winning, the party will step in. Whereas, what happened in the presidential election, the right person won, so there was no fraud. If the results that happened here occurred in a country we don’t like though, the State Department would be preparing sanctions against the illegitimate government.

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
  17. ic1000 says:

    > Carlos Antonio De Bourbon-Montenegro

    Born 100 years earlier with that skill set, he could have focused the efforts of the Serbian/Montenegrin Black Hand conspiracy on voting the hated Archduke Ferdinand out of office.

    The world would be a better place.

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
  18. “Montenegro” suggests origins in South Dakota (“monte negro” = black hills, more or less).

    But seriously, the (real) Bourbons are of French origin. The Spanish form of the name (used by the Spanish branch of the House of Bourbon since 1700) is Borbón, not Bourbon.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
  19. @Clifford Brown

    Right. Like Chicago and Milwaukee blacks often have roots in Mississippi, a lot of Los Angeles blacks have roots in Louisiana. It had to do with train tracks.

    A San Fernando Valley hero when I was into cars in 1970, drag racer Don “The Snake” Prudhomme, was a Louisiana Creole of Color. It was too complicated for him to explain the Latin racial system to Angelenos, and nobody in the Valley much cared if you weren’t quite white as long as you fit in. And the car-genius Prudhomme family fit in well into a car crazy culture.

  20. Abe says:
    @Rob McX

    Maybe Carlos Antonio De Bourbon-Montenegro is a Confederado descended from American slaveowners who went into exile?

    His name sounds like a name that the King and Duke in “Huckleberry Finn” would make up to impress the rubes.

    There are wilder, weirder things in Heaven and Earth than is dreamt of in your HBD, Sailer. For example, came across a glancing mention of the Hewett Treaty while reading one of Churchill’s histories last month. The Hewett Treaty was a significant, if not particularly famous, diplomatic cornerstone of British 19th Century meddling in the Near East, negotiated multilaterally between representatives of the British Empire, Ethiopia and a quasi-independent Egypt. Representing Egypt, one Mason Bey. Yes, as in Mason-Dixon Bey. Yes, as in a Confederate naval officer who, post-Lady Antebellum, wound up in Egypt, made it big, and was signing treaties with Her Imperial Majesty’s Government before it was all said and done:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Macomb_Mason

    • Replies: @Jtgw
    , @Indiana Jack
  21. Jake says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Some do, most certainly.

    Most whites who are strongly drawn to blacks tend to be disturbed. Some are drawn to blacks because that have a messiah complex: I will save the Negro. Some are drawn to blacks because they wish to rebel against white norms of behavior: I wish to act the fool and run wild. Some are drawn to blacks because they are drawn to things satanic, things evil, and see blacks as a natural conduit.

    Mariah Carey’s mother may be that.

  22. Wait, I thought the MSM said there is no such thing a voter fraud. They get pretty angry when someone produces video of it taking place.

    • LOL: Hibernian
  23. AndrewR says:
    @S. Anonyia

    Brazil isn’t Spanish, bud

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  24. @Clifford Brown

    I’m a lifeling resident of Louisiana and have had occasion to meet a lot of blacks with Louisiana roots who now live in the L.A. area. But I don’t think this Bourbon-Montenegro guy’s occult/magic gimmick has anything to do with Louisiana.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  25. Jtgw says:
    @Abe

    Interesting! FYI not same Mason as Mason Dixon line

  26. slumber_j says:
    @Steve Sailer

    It had to do with train tracks.

    Randy Newman’s “Dixie Flyer” comes to mind, being all about that and all…well, in reverse anyway:

    Anyway, forget about being mayor of Hawthorne: doesn’t this Bourbon-Montenegro dude’s surname put him in line to be King of the Two Sicilies or something?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  27. Note the Egyptian symbols he uses so maybe he knows a couple of the declarations the deceased had to be able to say before the throne of Osiris iẹ. “I have not tipped the scales of balance” and “I have not committed fraud”.

    Somebody mentioned Crowley above who was described in the media as “the most evil man in the world” (some might say they were doing so from within a large glass house) but Crowley opposed abortion and maybe this is a classic example of the precept that Jesus taught iẹ. “do not judge…” especially if you pass yourself off as a devout catholic but as a politician you have been responsible for countless dismemberments, limb by limb, of babies in their mothers wombs.

    By a strange coincidence the Church whom Crowley spoofed into printing a book about the mother of Jesus , the papal printers Burns & Oates, would later in the 20th century be the same church which held the line about abortion when the laws relating to them came under sustained attack.

  28. J.Ross says:
    @notsaying

    Is this your first time encountering an American black who decided that his background was boring and started talking about how he was pretty much everything but black?

  29. J.Ross says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    All we can say for sure is that if you’re ever suspected of child-bothering, do whatever you have to do to get the FBI in charge of the investigation: it’s better than retaining Johnnie Cochran.

    • LOL: JohnnyWalker123
  30. ganderson says:
    @Steve Sailer

    SUNDAY!!!! SUNDAY!!!! FUNNY CARS!!!! BIG JOHN MAZMANIAN….

    Weren’t the Beach Boys from Hawthorne?

  31. Anon7 says:

    Election fraud? Come on, man, America has the safest elections anywhere…

    Former Philadelphia Judge of Elections Convicted of Conspiring to Violate Civil Rights and Bribery
    (from justice.gov, in summer of 2020)

    Domenick J. Demuro, 73, of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, pleaded guilty during a sealed proceeding on March 16, 2020, before U.S. District Judge Paul S. Diamond to conspiring to deprive persons of civil rights, and using interstate facilities in aid of bribery. The court unsealed the matter today. Sentencing is scheduled for June 30, 2020.

    During his guilty plea hearing, Demuro admitted that while serving as an elected municipal Judge of Elections, he accepted bribes in the form of money and other things of value in exchange for adding ballots to increase the vote totals for certain candidates on the voting machines in his jurisdiction and for certifying tallies of all the ballots, including the fraudulent ballots.

    Demuro fraudulently stuffed the ballot box by literally standing in a voting booth and voting over and over, as fast as he could, while he thought the coast was clear. This is utterly reprehensible conduct. The charges announced today do not erase what he did, but they do ensure that he is held to account for those actions,” said U.S. Attorney William M. McSwain of the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.

  32. Currahee says:
    @Rob McX

    Google image search reveals a far wimpier image.

  33. Charon says:
    @Jake

    The women I’ve known who were drawn to blacks simply imbibed it from television and movies. And Madonna’s music videos. Black men were noble savages unjustly persecuted by evil white men and only the tender loving ministrations of a (preferably blonde) white woman could redeem everyone involved.

  34. Hibernian says:
    @Jake

    Her Mother was mixed, her Father was White.

  35. Andy says:

    “Bourbon-Montenegro, who also goes by Mark Anthony Gonsalves”

    It should be the other way around, Gonsalves who goes by the name of Bourbon-Montenegro…

    • Agree: Cortes
    • Replies: @James O'Meara
  36. Hibernian says:
    @slumber_j

    In real life the Dixie Flyer started out with Chicago and St. Louis sections which met up in Evansville IN, went South on a string of Southern RRs through Atlanta to Jacksonville, and then split into sections going to St. Pete, Sarasota by way of Tampa, and Miami. Towards the end it was cut back to an Atlanta to Florida train.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_Flyer_(train)

    • Replies: @slumber_j
  37. The problem with mail-in ballots is not the potential for voter fraud. The issue is convenience.

    In order to cast a vote, a voter should be required to show up at his legally designated polling station, in his state of residence, on the day of the election.

    No more absentee ballots, voting at a US embassy, early voting, voting from a military station, i.e. voter fluidity.

    If a guy wants to become a woman, he has to get his p* removed. If he wants to become Jewish, he has to get circumcised.

    If he wants to vote, asking him to do so in-person would not be asking too much.

  38. @Cortes

    Maybe a fan of the Easy Rawlins novels by Walter Mosley?

    Are those books any good? Good as in George Pelecanos good.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    , @Cortes
  39. slumber_j says:
    @Hibernian

    Well, Randy Newman’s wrong again I guess, just as he was about short people. Nevertheless, he does claim in “Dixie Flyer” to have traveled to NOLA from LA by train as I child, and maybe I still do believe that.

    It’s a very pretty song in parts. Still, at the lyrical climax Newman can’t conceal a pretty powerful anti-gentile animus, which is interesting.

  40. @Anonymous

    “I’ve loved baseball ever since Arnold Rothstein fixed the World Series in 1919.” ~ Hyman Roth

  41. @Steve Sailer

    “Granted, the book that the movie is based on is mostly hooey dreamed up to make some money for the guy’s four daughters after he is dead. But the funny thing is that mob scheme involving Biden is a direct analog for how Twitter and Facebook shutdown the New York Post’s article on Hunter Biden.”

    Even more likely, Biden Co. got the idea from the movie. Life imitates art.

    On the other hand, it doesn’t take much to figure out shutting down a story can help your guy.

  42. @El Dato

    “Think of the massive amount of white chicks this man has likely banged in incense-filled dungeons.”

    True, yet still awesomely funny. Thanks for improving my day!

  43. @Redneck farmer

    “They made only 20% of the vote fraudulent in Trenton, and still got caught.”

    As I understand it, vote fraud (VF) requires a close election, so that small amounts of ballots or vote totals on machines can be “tweaked”. For example, Al Franken’s “win” on the basis of what, 6 votes “found” in a car truck two weeks later. It’s easier and, as we can see, less suspicious.

    Even on a national scale, you get VF in close elections: Nixon vs. Kennedy, Trump v. Biden. You’re perhaps thinking of Soviet style wholesale fraud, but that’s more like a Potemkin election that everyone knows is just for show. You only need to bribe one juror in a real trial, but in a show trial who cares?

    “Then again, this is traditional election fraud, so if it appears the wrong person is winning, the party will step in. Whereas, what happened in the presidential election, the right person won, so there was no fraud.”

    As in RussiaGate: Treason doth never prosper; what’s the reason? If it prosper, none dare call it treason.

    • Replies: @CCZ
  44. @ic1000

    “Born 100 years earlier with that skill set, he could have focused the efforts of the Serbian/Montenegrin Black Hand conspiracy on voting the hated Archduke Ferdinand out of office.”

    We may be moving on from paper ballots to computers to now similar lead-based voting.

    New levels of Mafia-style euphemism loom. “Did you elect that guy? Nah, he only got nominated.”

  45. @Abe

    Fascinating! Thanks for the information. Unfortunately, the Wikipedia article is not very detailed, but his obituary from the Evening Times of Washington, D.C. in 1897 gives more information:

    https://www.newspapers.com/clip/26193497/death-of-alexander-macomb-mason/

  46. Mr Mox says:

    I am an initiate of the sacred mysteries of Afro-Brazilian Quimbanda/Kimbanda. I am well-known and celebrated by the International Occult World Community not only as an experienced magician of Afro-Brazilian Ceremonial High Magick, but also acknowledged as an expert and leading authority of the Occult Black Arts, Gnosticism and the magickal folklore traditions of Latin America, Europe and Africa.

    I rest my nutcase, Your Honor.

  47. Although perhaps De Bourbon-Montenegro might have called a little too much attention to his scheme.

    Not to mention the name De Bourbon-Montenegro would have called to it. Most people would assume “Gonsalves” a Spanish name (like Gonzalez, it derives from Gonzalo/Gonçalo), and would thus be anonymous in LA County.

    Maybe Carlos Antonio De Bourbon-Montenegro is a Confederado descended from American slaveowners who went into exile?

    That town in Brazil wasn’t founded by ex-Cons, as many people are led to believe. It was set up by prominent locals to attract Americans well before our Civil War. They had difficulty at first, but did get a wave after 1865.

    The MPB singer Rita Lee (Jones) descends from such settlers. I think her ancestor waited until the 1890s to come down, though. Perhaps a Brazilian here knows more about her story, or the town.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rita_Lee

    • Replies: @Alden
  48. When I hear a name like that, I usually picture something out of The Count of Monte Cristo. I wonder what this guy’s fencing skills were like.

    • Replies: @Cortes
  49. @Jake

    On a lighter note (hee hee), blacks are often used as supposed sources for spiritual wisdom that is hardly Satanic (other than to Fundies, who think everything is Satanic). The “Other” is often seen as a source of non-Christian wisdom; eg., the Jewish Cabala (actually, plagiarized from Neoplatonism, but presented “secret Hebrew wisdom” to make it seem less pagan but also non-Christian, a winning combo)

    This is the historical origin of today’s “Magical or Luminous Negro” in the media (Green Mile, Bagger Vance, etc.)

    Both Neville Goddard and Joseph Murphy claimed their New Thought systems derived from the teachings of a black, Ethiopian Jew in NYC named “Abdullah.” Mitch Horowitz has tried to verify this, and a leading candidate, Arnold Josiah Ford, is pretty interesting in himself: part of Marcus Garvey’s Back to Africa movement (which also promoted New Thought as part of its Negro uplift efforts: see Rev. Ike). Ford walked the walk, actually returning to Ethiopia, just in time to be likely killed in the Italian invasion.

    Fun Fact: Neville disciple Margaret Runyon (niece of Damon) was married to Carlos Castaneda, and tried to interest him in Neville. But the only thing he found interesting was the idea of a mentor who was foreign and mysteriously unavailable. Thus was “Don Juan” born.

  50. @AndrewR

    Being in LA, this guy is into Spanish alchemy instead.

    Brazil isn’t Spanish, bud

    L.A. isn’t Brazil, rapaz.

    Actually, Spanish names are common in Brazil. Spain was one of the top sources of immigration (after Italy, Germany, and of course Portugal), and today many come from neighboring countries. Spaniards would outnumber more famous Brazilian ethnicities such as Japanese, Arab, and Eastern European, but don’t stick out as much.

  51. Facebook, Twitter, and the New York Times have determined that the immutable laws of the universe render voter fraud literally impossible, much like faster than light travel.

    This article is therefore Fake News, by definition. It will be thus be rejected by the official MSM on the same ground as the patent office rejects an application for a perpetual motion machine.

  52. Nachum says:

    That does kind of look like a Confederate flag behind him.

  53. znon says:
    @Clifford Brown

    Before the civil war creoles of color were a separate ethnicity that was erased by the new northern imposed black-white view. A great identity loss to them, along with the loss of their slaves.

    • Replies: @Federalist
  54. @Clifford Brown

    I have always had a vague sense of Louisiana vibes in the LA Black community.

    There is certainly New Orleans levels of corruption in certain inner city LA jurisdictions. The reason (probably different from NO, though), is that the Third World immigrant denizens are so politically disconnected and passive that anyone who makes an effort can easily take over and loot the treasury.

    This phenomenon was on display in the City of Bell scandal from a few years back. Basically, the mayor and his city council cronies just voted to give themselves the entire city budget as salaries and benefit packages. The mayor was getting $442,000 in salary plus millions in future retirement benefits. Nice work if you can get it for running a place that has about 10,000 registered voters.

    Documents released to the Times revealed that the California Public Employees’ Retirement System (CalPERS) knew four years previously that Rizzo had received a 47% pay increase to $442,000. Then-California Attorney General Jerry Brown maintained that such a large increase should have aroused suspicion from CalPERS.[30]”These outrageous salaries in Bell are shocking and beyond belief,” said Brown. “With record deficits and painful budget cuts facing California cities, astronomical local government salaries raise serious questions and demand a thorough investigation.”[31]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Bell_scandal

  55. Alden says:
    @Clifford Brown

    Most California blacks are descended from Louisiana and Texas immigrants. They apparently went west instead of north. Lots of almost White and quadroons descended from Louisiana immigrants.

    There used to be supermarkets in the infamous Watts and south central that sold crab, shrimp crawdads , pig ears , tails and faces, Louisiana hot sausage , alligator meat, file thickener and all sorts of Louisiana cuisine ingredients, especially around Christmas.

    • Replies: @Federalist
    , @David In TN
  56. Alden says:

    De Bourbon Montenegro sounds like the descendants of a Spanish princess and a Balkan war lord buried somewhere in the Almach de Gotha.

    It does stand out.

  57. Alden says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    There’s a history channel program about that settlement. Presents it as a totally Confederate refugee idea who approached the Brazilian government. Lots of “ why in the world would their ex slaves go with them?”

    Probably the devil you know; housing food job than the devil you don’t know , homeless and starving in the mess that was the south under federal occupation

  58. @Richard of Melbourne

    New Rule: If your name is Carlos Antonio De Bourbon-Montenegro, you must look like this.

  59. wren says:

    Sounds like a character out of Eco’s Focault’s Pendulum.

  60. @znon

    Before the civil war creoles of color were a separate ethnicity that was erased by the new northern imposed black-white view. A great identity loss to them, along with the loss of their slaves.

    Most free blacks weren’t concerned with “the loss of their slaves” since very few ever actually had slaves.

  61. Muggles says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    Maybe a fan of the Easy Rawlins novels by Walter Mosley?

    Are those books any good? Good as in George Pelecanos good.

    In my opinion, yes. I’ve read them all and the main character is very well done. along with his various acquaintances. Very revealing about LA in the 60s-70s I think, about the black culture there of working class people.

    The Rawlins character and his main (murderous) sidekick Mouse were said to be from Houston, and his background on that rings true to me, as a longtime resident of that area.

    The best thing about these books is that you get an intelligent black narrator whose views and opinions are not filtered through some white (White!) liberal view of race. Very refreshing and highly readable.

    I haven’t read any Pelecanos.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  62. @Alden

    There used to be supermarkets in the infamous Watts and south central that sold crab, shrimp crawdads , pig ears , tails and faces, Louisiana hot sausage , alligator meat, file thickener and all sorts of Louisiana cuisine ingredients, especially around Christmas.

    I don’t know about that. Shrimp and crabs are sold in a lot of places. Crawfish are expensive. I don’t know if poor blacks in Watts and South Central were buying a lot of crawfish. Pig ears and tails, etc. are more like soul food or just Southern food in general, and not specifically Louisiana food.

    • Replies: @Alden
  63. @Steve Sailer

    The YouTuber Geography King, a.k.a. Kyle, grew up in the San Joaquin Valley, married a South Carolinian, and lives in Chattanooga. So he’s in a good position for a balanced view.

    Last year, he addressed complaints from all the other states about California refugees moving in and messing things up. Ninety years ago, California was in that position herself, accepting refugees from the other failed states.

    Migration Backlash in the U.S.

    Mobile Californians might be ready with the states their grandparents were born in.

    Also, a lot of lefty Californians are simply being priced out. One lady on Quora said she left New York for the Carolinas not because of the city’s failure, but due to its success. It was impossible to find an affordable place to live even on her very high salary.

    She had no intentions of changing her voting behavior. Then again, the Carolinas and NYC voted alike in the 1930s and 1940s, and for that matter in 1860. (Well, North Carolina. The other Carolinians couldn’t vote for presidential electors yet.) Different men, but same party.

  64. Alden says:
    @El Dato

    Another aged codger who hasn’t been laid in the last 40 years just has to share his black man White woman porn fantasies with other UNZ commenters. What is is with the MEN OF UNZ that you perverts have to share your psycho sexual hang ups with everyone who reads UNZ ?

    Are you proud of spending so much time wanking away to bm ww porn? Bm ww born is the most popular with White men. Some claim it’s because you pervs are guys attracted to the black men. What’s even sicker than wanking to bm ww porn is your insisting on commenting about it.

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
  65. @Rob McX

    “Aleister Crowley”

    European occultists in and out of the Vatican practice sex rituals or workings. They are obsessed with deviancy and blasphemy. Not a fun bunch.

    “sacred ingredients”

    If Carlos offers food and drink politely refuse and reach for your ankle gun. His refreshments will contain “sacred ingredients” harvested from his body.

    • Thanks: Rob McX
  66. Anon87 says:
    @Rob McX

    Speaking of The Rock, he’s my prediction for a future MtF transition. Already not afraid of going under the knife for touch up work, is obviously mainlining roids still, very high energy and work ethic (the man stays busy), and recently released video of himself crying over Biden. Bonus points for being ethnically dubious. All the signs are there for Steve to be writing about our first trans president Donna Johnson in 8 or 12 years. He can complete the dream denied to the now-wimpy Schwarzenegga (soft R).

    • Replies: @Rob McX
  67. @Federalist

    “occult/magic gimmick has anything to do with Louisiana”

    I thought Louisiana was a hotbed of Haitian voodoo which is a synthesis of French Catholicism and African animism. The Encyclopedia Britannica waits in the shelf across the room but I can’t get out of my chair.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
  68. Thirdtwin says:

    Any other year, he’d probably have gotten away with it.

  69. @Alden

    “Most California blacks are descended from Louisiana and Texas immigrants.”

    This includes quite a few famous black athletes, O.J. Simpson for example.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  70. @Anon

    “always fake”

    The middle space between fossil-brain naysayers and gullible feverish believers. That’s where smart guys like me watch you “silly” conventional wisdomists walk into walls.

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
    , @Anon
  71. @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    Baroque yet vacuous word-salads (especially when they’re “magickal”) are big juju to many negroes.

  72. prosa123 says:
    @Jake

    Some are drawn to blacks because they are drawn to things satanic, things evil, and see blacks as a natural conduit.

    As best I can determine, just about all adherents of all sorts of paranormal activities including Satanism and the occult are white. The only exceptions are activities derived from nonwhite areas such as vodoo and santeria.

  73. prosa123 says:
    @Steve Sailer

    A very high percentage, certainly well over 50%, of the blacks who lived in the Northeastern city where I grew up had roots in Elizabeth City, North Carolina.

    • Replies: @Polistra
  74. @S. Anonyia

    What a genuinely insightful piece of anthropology (sociology?). Thank you.

  75. Cortes says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    Very different narrative style from Pelecanos but generally just as good. As “Muggles” has said, the lead character is very convincingly drawn – his sly entrepreneurialism is well done, and the traditional relationship with an honest cop isn’t overdone. And aren’t everyone’s friends a blend of vision and nightmares? Certainly worth a read.

    • Thanks: Jim Don Bob
  76. Cortes says:
    @Hamlet's Ghost

    Excellent!

    Was that the name of the flamboyant swordsman played by Connery in “Highlander”?

  77. Alden says:
    @Federalist

    Well, that’s what Los Angeles blacks have told me. LA blacks who shopped in those supermarkets.

    Apparently there were overnight air shipments of Gulf shrimp. American Gulf shrimp that tasted like shrimp, not Japanese Thai Indonesia weird shrimp farm things. The black neighborhoods clustered south of the airport so they got quick delivery of the shrimp and alligator meat. They weren’t all poor either, especially the boomer children of the Louisiana immigrants. This was before the Hispanic immigrants chased the blacks out of S Central. They breaded and fried the pig ears for sandwiches. Don’t know what they did with the pig faces.,

    • Replies: @Polistra
  78. Bourbon-Montenegro, who also goes by Mark Anthony Gonsalves,

    Does Carlos Antonio De Bourbon-Montenegro really need an “also goes by…”?

    Maybe a name he uses with non-wife coital partners? His dealer name? His pimp name?

  79. To paraphrase Huck’s companion, Jim, “I sho hope we not gwyne get any mo kings on da raf, one’s nuff”

  80. @Andy

    “goes by” means “when he needs to cash a welfare check.”

  81. @Alden

    I for one have never heard of “bm ww porn”. I mean, I get the meaning, but I’ve never seen that set of acronyms used that way before. Thank you for your research. You search the websites so we don’t have to.

  82. Polistra says:
    @prosa123

    That is truly fascinating, since EC is such a small town (and still full of negroes FWIW). May I know which northeast city it is?

    • Replies: @prosa123
  83. Polistra says:
    @Alden

    American Gulf shrimp that tasted like shrimp, not Japanese Thai Indonesia weird shrimp farm things.

    As much as I love Asian food, one has to be very skeptical of the various fauna that finds its way there. Better to stick with tofu and veggies, with perhaps the occasional fish–if you can recognize it.

    Too many damn people on the planet. Especially asians and africans.

  84. @David In TN

    California is more football-oriented than you might think, which has something to do with a lot of the working class people, black and white, having roots in Texas and Louisiana, which are hyper into football.

  85. Rob McX says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    You probably won’t find anything useful about voodoo in the encyclopedia, as that would be reinforcing stereotypes about blacks and their superstitions, witchdoctors, etc. In fact, we weren’t even supposed to call it voodoo a few years ago when the Haitian earthquake was in the news. We were told it was “vodou”. But after the earthquake receded from public attention, the old word seems to have been reinstated.

  86. Rob McX says:
    @Anon87

    I’d be very surprised if the Rock went the way of Bruce “Caitlyn” Jenner. Blacks are more immune to that stuff.

  87. Anon[297] • Disclaimer says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    “always fake”

    The middle space between fossil-brain naysayers and gullible feverish believers. That’s where smart guys like me watch you “silly” conventional wisdomists walk into walls.

    Of all the Satanic ritual abuse cases, which one is the most bulletproof, legit, and highly probable that it actually occured, according to your research? I’m not interested in No. 2. Give me the one that is 100 percent true. I’d like to check it out. Do you have a link to a news article or research paper or something you could give me?

    Also, have you got any leads on legit alien abduction anal probes?

    I suggest you read Elizabeth Loftus’s Wikipedia article. This stuff all happened in an era where trendy therapy techniques, now considered unethical, were used to extract memories. This was the age of the “gray alien.” You know that classic big-eyed alien look? It DID NOT EXIST when I was in high school before the 1980s, and then these suggestive therapists started to get everyone to remember it. And for Satan someone saw Rosemary’s Baby on late night TV, and voilá, that became another trope to recover memories about.

    Now we’re in the sine wave perioed for this stuff. It will never die. It will just keep coming back every 25 or 30 years or so. Just like “sudden unintended acceleration” with cars. Weird how every couple of decades a different car maker just so happens to design defective brakes … that only are defective for 70-year-old drivers. We even have a new UFO mania now, with government-released video and New York Times articles. The roller coaster never stops.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  88. Romanian says: • Website
    @El Dato

    Why do they assume that there will be Gurkha policemen? Having 40% from BAME background doesn’t mean matching the population structure closely. It would actually be a step up to have a quota but pick the best person that applies. Rather, they will get the people who want to punch the clock, stay out of trouble and collect a nice pension. If they can enhance their standing within their community (the only one that counts in an agglomeration of enclaves), then they will raise their status by covering for co-ethnics like the Pakistani policemen of Rotherham during the early signals of the massive grooming operations (ironically, these early warnings came from within the community, but racism-anxiety meant they were ignored).

  89. CCZ says:
    @Peter D. Bredon

    “Indeed, you won the elections, but I won the count.” — Nicaraguan dictator Anastasio Somoza (1896-1956), quoted in The Guardian (London), 17 June 1977.

  90. prosa123 says:
    @Polistra

    Waterbury, Connecticut.
    From what I understand the big migration of blacks from Elizabeth City was in the 1920’s through 1940’s, as they arrived in search of jobs at what were then Waterbury’s three huge brass products mills. It pretty much dried up after World War II as the mills declined, and chances are today the percentage of black residents with Elizabeth City ancestry is considerably lower than a generation or two ago.
    As the migration of blacks from EC declined an influx from Puerto Rico increased. Many seemed to come from the Ponce area rather than from San Juan.

  91. BB753 says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Easy to explain. Where would you recruit well-connected people who can keep a secret and know all kinds of connected networks? In masonic lodges and occult organizations related thereto.
    In Elizabethan England, John Dee was a spy, so was Alesteir Crowley, an active MI5 asset in both wars.
    And finally, the OSS (now CIA) was created by Skull & Bones members out of Yale, notably by the scions of distinguished Eastern seaboard families who had become rich trading opium.

    • Replies: @FS
  92. @Anon

    “have you got any leads on legit … anal probes?”

    I’ll leave that to you.

    “It will never die.”

    The plague of black women?

    “UFO mania now”

    You’re sounding like the old man across the hall. Venture into Tales of Mystery and the Imagination territory. Bring some color (not colour) into your life.

  93. anon[415] • Disclaimer says:

    That guy needs a new Twatter account under the name of:

    President-Elect Boubon-Montenegro

    then he can issue his statements from his own Office of the President-Elect…in Jail.

  94. @Muggles

    Thanks. Read Pelecanos. You won’t be disappointed.

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