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However, Hizzoner’s sign language interpreter, who looks suspiciously like Weird Al Yankovic, doesn’t seem to be taking the Mayor’s dignity all that seriously.

Is Trump the only government official in America who doesn’t have a sign-language interpreter? When did closed-captions get disinvented, anyway? My phone can probably convert speech to text more efficiently.

iSteve commenter Achmed E. Newman suggests:

I wonder if that sign-language guy was actually saying something totally different from what the Commie Mayor was saying, perhaps “Listen, we don’t [OK, probably not “Listen”] have the situational awareness that the hearing do. Stay the hell inside! Make sure you’ve got security cameras. This moron I work for is full of it. You don’t want anything to do with these people out there expressing their pain downtown. Don’t tell any hearing people what I’m saying. I need this job.”

 
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  1. The *real* Hizzoner handled this situation very differently in ’68.

    • Replies: @George
    @nebulafox

    The *real* Hizzoner handled this situation very differently in ’68.

    The Mayor was John Lindsay, the last WASP mayor and probably the best looking mayor*.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lindsay#Racial_and_civil_unrest

    If I remember right (Jewish) Mayor Ed Koch claimed Lindsay had the police drop boxes of money in the street to disperse rioters. Maybe a false memory on my part, or Koch's.

    The gentrifiers must miss the Ghost Shadows and the Westies.

    The last Chinese and Irish to make themselves useful, it's time to mobilize MS-13:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Shadows
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westies

    * "Beau" Jimmy Walker: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Walker

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Gary in Gramercy

  2. Anonymous[842] • Disclaimer says:

    Maybe in the big picture, the fall of America will be merely a quiet affair?

    • Replies: @Tiny Duck
    @Anonymous

    Yes, the end of racism and white supremacy will be a quite affair. Or would be if not for conservative white people resisting progress


    Most of the violence is done by white supremacists and right wingers

    , @Ray P
    @Anonymous

    Arranged by the Quiet American? Will it be like the promised Quiet Revolution of Conservative British prime minister Edward Heath (1970-1974)?

    Mr Heath wanted to 'permanently change the outlook of the British people,' he said grandly, for 'to cling desperately to the present will be to find ourselves embracing only the past.' ... 'If we are to achieve this task, we will have to embark on a change so radical, a revolution so quiet and yet so total, that it will go far beyond the programme for a parliament to which we are committed and on which we have already embarked: far beyond this decade and way into the nineteen eighties.'

    --Dominic Sandbrook, State of Emergency.
     

    What next? Quiet rape? Quiet murder? Quiet genocide?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @The Alarmist
    @Anonymous


    Maybe in the big picture, the fall of America will be merely a quiet affair?
     
    This is the way America ends
    This is the way America ends
    This is the way America ends
    Not with a bang but a whimper.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPeHO1r8paU

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

    , @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous


    Maybe in the big picture, the fall of America will be merely a quiet affair?
     
    Could be.

    But i think these Democrat riots are actually making the ultimate success of their soft coup less likely.

    Plenty of ordinary people--white and non-white--are seeing this Democrat riot, coming on top of these Democrat shutdowns/internments and thinking "i don't want any part of this".

    I expect a lot of whites--and even non-whites--will be bailing out of Democrat controlled states and towns. I think they'll be a lot more people heading to "the country". Cheap communications, the Internet make this prospect really a lot more palatable to a lot more folks than it once was. A lot of white collar work can be done remotely. And even inter-personal professional workers--doctor, lawyer--can have a very nice life setup in small/medium city in a white state and living in an exurb or the country.

    And i expect a *lot* of people will be arming up. I've generally been content with shotguns for home defense and a bit of sport. But i'm thinking now, i really would like to be a position to dissuade an entire Antifa mob from attempting to antifa my neighborhood. I very much doubt i'm alone in those thoughts.

    I think my "separate nations" meme has made a lot progress--no breakthrough but in terms of thoughts that provide a foundation for it-- in the last week.

    Civilized people who value the culture and traditions of Western Christian civilization--"the West"--are realizing civilization and the Democrats' minoritarianism are fundamentally incompatible.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @anon

  3. … who looks suspiciously like Weird Al Yankovic…

    He looks more like the Unix Sys-Admin. to me.

    I don’t watch the TV so I haven’t noticed the trend away from closed-captioning. It seems much less distracting and probably quicker for deaf people at that.

    I wonder if that sign-language guy was actually saying something totally different from what the Commie Mayor was saying, perhaps “Listen, we don’t (OK, probably not “Listen”) have the situational awareness that the hearing do. Stay the hell inside! Make sure you’ve got security cameras. This moron I work for is full of it. You don’t want anything to do with these people out there expressing their pain downtown. Don’t tell any hearing people what I’m saying. I need this job.”

    • Agree: Goatweed
    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Well done, A.

    , @Jane Plain
    @Achmed E. Newman

    You've written the best scene in the next Mike Judge movie. Bravo!

    (OK, probably not “Listen”)

    Right. More likely "Look."

    He looks more like the Unix Sys-Admin. to me.

    Which pushes the Mike Judge analogy even further.

    , @Cortes
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Reminds me of the “Rab McGlinchy interpreting for the neds” sketches (“ned” = “non-educated delinquent”) in a BBC comedy show:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a8Sdyh1ZVxE

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Achmed E. Newman


    I wonder if that sign-language guy was actually saying something totally different from what the Commie Mayor was saying, perhaps “Listen, we don’t (OK, probably not “Listen”) have the situational awareness that the hearing do. Stay the hell inside! Make sure you’ve got security cameras. This moron I work for is full of it. You don’t want anything to do with these people out there expressing their pain downtown. Don’t tell any hearing people what I’m saying. I need this job.”
     
    https://media.tenor.com/images/87e0c60ba2c207cb3dc86edeae295683/tenor.gif
    , @GMR
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I don't know if the sign language guy is saying something different. But once I read about some event that had a translator because the speaker was German or Japanese or whatever. So the interpreter said something to the effect of, "Now he's telling a joke, but there really is no way to translate it effectively while I'm doing this, so just laugh now for a few seconds."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @ScarletNumber

    , @PiltdownMan
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The ASL interpreter inset on TV screens during speeches reminds me of Rudy Giuliani's son at his dad's 1994 speech, just after he was sworn in as mayor.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re_wo_Bl9Uc

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  4. When did closed-captions get disinvented, anyway?

    When Charles Murray on Twitter recently mocked sign language interpreters being present at every announcement, he was told hey, reading English is hard, and not all deaf people are up to it.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @silviosilver

    Yeah, but do these bigots put out a version of the speech in braille, for the visually impaired who can't stand to listen to De Blasio?

  5. Boy, I would hate to be Wilhelm’s designated successor right now.

    • Replies: @Charon
    @Redneck farmer

    So long as they maintain control of the mass media, they have little to worry about. Cuomo, Keisha, Lori Lightfoot and DeBlasio could personally level their respective cities and states with tanks and bulldozers and the masses would be instructed that Trump was responsible.

    Replies: @Jane Plain

    , @Forbes
    @Redneck farmer

    There's probably a dozen people vying to position themselves to follow. NYC doesn't lack for little dictators. After Kaiser Wilhelm, the bar is set pretty low.

    How many people imagine they could do at least as well as a lazy mayor who's late to every function, meeting and appointment, who makes sure he gets chauffeured to the gym every morning for his 10 am workout, after which he starts his workday?

  6. Semi-important people seem to believe that having a sign-language interpreter will make them look more important. It’s the sign of a politician with status anxiety.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Andrew M

    Andrew, f you call him an "intern", meaning you don't have to pay him, it could be a real win/win. In addition, this interpreter may be able to do a little espionage on your political opponents.

    (Go to 1:45, if you are "pressed for time"):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2F5vzsYWVw

    , @More R1b, Less H1B
    @Andrew M

    It's also an ironclad sinecure that Deaf activists can sniff out like a bloodhound (perhaps one of those when-the-other-senses-diminish phenomena.) Find something funded by the public purse without an interpreter present? Scream bloody murder about ableism and next time around you or a friend will pocket a few hundred bucks for an hour's work. The Bumblefuck University 97th Annual Conference on Fungal Infections of Citronella Grass and its ten hearing attendees will be none the wiser that the 'interpreter' has two years of college ASL and is functionally incoherent.

    I predict that there's going to be a skirmish on woke fronts soon, given the advances YouTube and other tech companies have made in real-time closed captioning. A room full of geeks somewhere in San Francisco has no idea they're about to endanger the bread and butter of one corner of the Diversity, Inclusion, Equity patronage machine. Those guys are fucked; there are going to be sign language interpreters tagging along to Mars.

  7. Anon[812] • Disclaimer says:

    Southside Chicago alderman said 95% of the businesses in his ward have been looted. He says he spent two years trying to attract businesses there and they’ve nearly all been trashed. Various aldermen are jumping all over the mayor. Over 2,000 people have been arrested in Chicago over the weekend.

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/6/1/21276963/chicago-protests-looting-george-floyd-live-blog

    By the way I’m amazed at how many people are being fed by the city in that article. None of the damn people even seem to be able to use an EBT card to feed themselves. They can’t even cook. They have to have food delivered.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    @Anon

    The school systems have taken over feeding kids for the most part. In 2018, schools served 5 billion lunches. 3/4 of those were free or at reduced cost.

    Our local county school district has gotten funds to give every kid in the system a free lunch and breakfast. No matter if they are dirt poor or living in the lap of luxury. It is part of the Community Eligibility Provision (CEP) program. Another of Obama's programs Trump has left in place.
    After the schools shut down for the China Virus, the school buses would run every day dropping off food to any student standing at the end of their driveway.

    In past years, I have seen various school districts and cities providing backpacks of food to students to feed them over the weekend.

    https://fns-prod.azureedge.net/sites/default/files/cn/CEPfactsheet.pdf

  8. Public expression on the streets by certain citizens of New York City has something of a Jekyll and Hyde quality to it. In that sense, they are a bit like a certain member of the mayor’s family.

    • LOL: OsgoodDeLaPoopoo
    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @PiltdownMan

    Mr. Sailer, could you delete my post above, please? I've learned, after I posted it, that the person depicted in it, Bill de Blasio's daughter, suffered from mental illness. In light of that, it is very unfair and wrong to indulge in mockery at her expense, public figure though she is.

    Replies: @UK, @Charon, @OsgoodDeLaPoopoo, @peterike, @128, @Anonymous

    , @Altai
    @PiltdownMan

    The septum piercing has become the universal cry for help from young women with BPD. It seems to be almost required of FtM transgenders who fail to appreciate that no man has one.

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @PiltdownMan

    Leftism is a progressive disease, similar to meth addiction. Say "No" to leftism.

    https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/before-after-meth-users#photo-1

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @PiltdownMan

    She actually looks like a fairly attractive, pleasant young lady in the picture on the right.

  9. Bill de Blasio = Biased lib LOL

    • Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    @the one they call Desanex

    My comment got trapped in The Dead Zone again.

  10. @Andrew M
    Semi-important people seem to believe that having a sign-language interpreter will make them look more important. It’s the sign of a politician with status anxiety.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @More R1b, Less H1B

    Andrew, f you call him an “intern”, meaning you don’t have to pay him, it could be a real win/win. In addition, this interpreter may be able to do a little espionage on your political opponents.

    (Go to 1:45, if you are “pressed for time”):

  11. @PiltdownMan
    Public expression on the streets by certain citizens of New York City has something of a Jekyll and Hyde quality to it. In that sense, they are a bit like a certain member of the mayor's family.

    https://i.imgur.com/JieFRsw.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/6hH9EtD.jpg

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Altai, @Hypnotoad666, @The Wild Geese Howard

    Mr. Sailer, could you delete my post above, please? I’ve learned, after I posted it, that the person depicted in it, Bill de Blasio’s daughter, suffered from mental illness. In light of that, it is very unfair and wrong to indulge in mockery at her expense, public figure though she is.

    • Disagree: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @UK
    @PiltdownMan

    The story of Jekyll and Hyde is essentially one of depression and the addiction that so often serves as a counter-productive escape from it.

    Since this is what Chiara (beautiful name) struggles with, she'd probably really relate to that book, especially as regards her taking part in the riots.

    I'd strongly recommend that she read it. Indeed, I'd wager that it'd be much more meaningful to her, deep down, than any of the infinite diatribes about hair, or whatever, that young ladies of her colour are told they must stress about these days.

    , @Charon
    @PiltdownMan

    Dude, everyone suffers from mental illness in current year USA. It's just a matter of degree. Know anything about her parents?

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @bigdicknick

    , @OsgoodDeLaPoopoo
    @PiltdownMan

    Could you remove my "lol" as it is unfair yada yada yada.

    , @peterike
    @PiltdownMan


    I’ve learned, after I posted it, that the person depicted in it, Bill de Blasio’s daughter, suffered from mental illness.
     
    Well if you were the bi-racial product of a soy-addled, anti-white white man and a butch, black Lesbian, you'd have mental illness too.
    , @128
    @PiltdownMan

    NO she is just a moral degenerate who should have her head bashed in with a rifle butt if only someone like Pinochet or Galtieri was in charge.

    , @Anonymous
    @PiltdownMan


    I’ve learned, after I posted it, that the person depicted in it, Bill de Blasio’s daughter, suffered from mental illness. In light of that, it is very unfair and wrong to indulge in mockery at her expense, public figure though she is.
     
    Is it?

    If BdB's daughter is seeking a quiet corner to go to pieces in, then yes, I agree: mocking her and adding to her already formidable problems would be unfair, even cruel.

    If, however, she is like an increasing number of self-proclaimed "mentally ill" people who insist on both waving their mental illness about as some sort of praiseworthy Unique Selling Point and making perfect nuisances of themselves, then she should have every expectation of being mocked, same as any other person who refuses to acknowledge that a little of them goes a long way.

    Judging by her recent arrest, I'd say she falls into the latter category, but I simply don't care enough about her and/or her antics to confirm this for myself.
  12. Well, it was peaceful. Precisely how many people died or were wounded?

    Who was going to die for Sleepy Joe, in a whole country of pussies?

    Next thing, we will head about hundreds of policemen complaining of headaches, just like the heroes of Ayn Al-Assad.

    Go get your trumpbux, looks like the printer is nearly exhausted.

  13. UK says:

    This is yet another mostly harmful form of progressive identity politics.

    Just as you’re not really black if you don’t vote for Biden, you’re not really deaf if you don’t self-segregate via focussing obsessively on sign language.

    Indeed, “Deaf culture” (always with a capital D) prioritises all 200 or so sign languages. Yes, there are that many, it is very “people’s front for the liberation of Judea” or whatever.

    One genuinely detrimental consequence is that many deaf children whom modern technology could make hearing are kept away from such assists. This is because of all of the predictable, if often totally understandable reasons, that ID politics types always use. “Deafness is a gain” so “curing” it is a loss. Not all deaf people will benefit so they will feel abandoned. Learning to speak and hear is selling out to society’s unjust “audist” standards.

    • Agree: Daniel Chieh
    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @UK

    I have seen "blindness advocates" promoting blindness as a desirable quality not to be cured.

    Replies: @UK

  14. @Achmed E. Newman

    ... who looks suspiciously like Weird Al Yankovic...
     
    He looks more like the Unix Sys-Admin. to me.

    I don't watch the TV so I haven't noticed the trend away from closed-captioning. It seems much less distracting and probably quicker for deaf people at that.

    I wonder if that sign-language guy was actually saying something totally different from what the Commie Mayor was saying, perhaps "Listen, we don't (OK, probably not "Listen") have the situational awareness that the hearing do. Stay the hell inside! Make sure you've got security cameras. This moron I work for is full of it. You don't want anything to do with these people out there expressing their pain downtown. Don't tell any hearing people what I'm saying. I need this job."

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Jane Plain, @Cortes, @Bardon Kaldian, @GMR, @PiltdownMan

    Well done, A.

  15. People in previous threads were suggesting that the first (‘official’) Floyd autopsy had been memory-holed.

    It can be downloaded from here.

    https://www.tmz.com/2020/06/01/george-floyd-cause-of-death-heart-attack-fentanyl/

    Said he had a heart attack “cardiac arrest complicating (? does that mean related to?) law enforcment subdual (is that the term for the state of having been subdued?) , restraint, and neck compression.

    Other significant conditions : Arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease; fentanyl intoxication; recent amphetamine use.

    I’m surprised there weren’t some figures here as to the degree of intoxication.

    Manner of death – Homicide (followed by a disclaimer re no legal determination of culpability). I think we’re all agreed he wouldn’t have died that day if he hadn’t been arrested.

    • Replies: @Redman
    @YetAnotherAnon

    The Baden guy, who seems to be hired as a second opinion for every famous autopsy, said Floyd had minimal underlying health conditions. And that he died from Chauvin’s neck hold.

    Interesting that both CNN and FOX are loudly proclaiming his opinion as superior to the MN coroner. Yet when he said that Epstein didn’t commit suicide last year, most claimed he was a quack. Move along. Nothing to see here, nothing to see here.

    Whatever happened with that Epstein investigation anyway? It’s been a while and zilch.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anonymous

    , @BenKenobi
    @YetAnotherAnon


    law enforcment subdual (is that the term for the state of having been subdued?)
     
    Maybe it’s referring to this:

    https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=ritual+of+subdual
    , @danand
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I thought the officers were said to have assassinated Floyd in front of multiple cameras 🎥 during daylight hours? Is 9:25PM daylight at this time of year in Minneapolis?

    https://flic.kr/p/2j85CCj

    Replies: @utu

    , @Buck Ransom
    @YetAnotherAnon

    This will be one of the few, very rare U.S. deaths of Spring 2020 not attributed to
    Covid-19 on the death certificate.

    Replies: @Che Blutarsky

    , @ThreeCranes
    @YetAnotherAnon

    He's got a fleck of white foam in the corner of his mouth at the end there. Looks like a drug OD to me.

    From Healthline: "Overdose causes foaming at the mouth because organs like the heart and lungs can’t function properly. ["I Can't breathe"] Slowed heart or lung movements causes fluids to gather in the lungs, which can mix with carbon dioxide and come out of the mouth like a foam.

    Drug overdoses can be fatal. The drug narcan is an antidote to opiate overdose. There is no treatment for stimulant overdose."

    According to the autopsy, he had both in his system, speed and an opiate.

    On Fentanyl, "High risk for addiction and dependence. Can cause respiratory distress and death when taken in high doses or when combined with other substances, especially alcohol.
    my bold, from drugfree

  16. It was idiotic to set the curfew for 11pm… that’s at least 2 1/2 hours after sunset. And like clockwork, the looting started in earnest around 8:20pm. Looters played cat and mouse with the NYPD, smashing windows, getting chased around the block, and looting on each lap. I had to call the FDNY after some of the discarded boxes were set on fire by looters with help from a black sedan that apparently rendered some kind of logistical support. The sidewalk outside my building is filled with empty Nike boxes. I guess that PR campaign is really paying dividends.

    Outside my hood, NYPD officers were attacked and one even struck by a hit-and-run driver in the Bronx. De Blasio’s non-support of the NYPD is likely to lead to at least a partial stand-down… and if the National Guard isn’t called in, things will continue to escalate. No bail for “non-violent” offenses, no support of the NYPD, and a mayor that all but admits to being a communist…

    Tonight the curfew is at 8pm… we’ll see if this helps.

    And yeah, I shouldn’t be here. I’m a native NYer and only returned to NYC full-time to support my aging parents… and once that situation has been properly addressed I’m out of here for good.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Technite78

    Beverly Hills' curfew today starts at 1 pm in the afternoon.

    I don't think Beverly Hills has ever been seriously ransacked before. How bad did it get this time? I was mostly paying attention to next door West Hollywood.

    Beverly Hills has its own police force, while West Hollywood used the LA county sheriffs.

    Replies: @Anon, @HammerJack, @Hypnotoad666, @Buck Ransom, @Alden, @hhsiii

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Technite78

    Thanks for that personal report, Technite. I'd like to see more of that from different commenters here. Right now, I got nuthin'.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Anonymous

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Technite78

    "The sidewalk outside my building is filled with empty Nike boxes."

    The detritus of the white-progressive reparations scheme?

  17. One can always spot a global liberal politico these days by the medieval King’s jester stood nearby pulling faces and gesticulating peculiarly. In the past, New York City mayors could do this by themselves.

    • Thanks: Old Prude
    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @Ray P

    It'd be pretty funny if some of them were just affirmative action hires who don't even know sign language and are just making shit up. That might explain the goofy faces so many of them pull.

    (What's the bet this turns out to be the case at least once? We're living in Clown World after all.)

  18. Anonymous[144] • Disclaimer says:

    This unrest has really emphasised to me how much white Americans worship blacks, so much so they would rather convince themselves that their country is being burnt down by white ANTIFA members and Russians than admit that it’s African-Americans who are robbing them, destroy their property and bashing their brains out.

    I’m not just talking about white leftists either, the American “right” seem as invested in black victimhood as the left do.

    • Agree: Stan d Mute, Forbes
    • Replies: @Steve Richter
    @Anonymous


    I’m not just talking about white leftists either, the American “right” seem as invested in black victimhood as the left do.
     
    best I can explain it is it is equal parts fear and condescension. But it is complicated. There is also the wanting to feel they are better than other whites.
    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    This unrest has really emphasised to me how much white Americans worship blacks
     
    It isn’t so much that they worship blacks, as that they fear Jews.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    This unrest has really emphasised to me how much white Americans worship blacks, so much so they would rather convince themselves that their country is being burnt down by white ANTIFA members and Russians than admit that it’s African-Americans who are robbing them, destroy their property and bashing their brains out.
     
    If you imagine blacks have the intelligence, organization, and industry to destroy a 21st-century police precinct house, you are the one who has an inflated view of blacks.

    It has to be whites, or some other race. Antifa has the skill. Do you have any other serious suspects in mind?

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Art Deco

  19. UK says:
    @PiltdownMan
    @PiltdownMan

    Mr. Sailer, could you delete my post above, please? I've learned, after I posted it, that the person depicted in it, Bill de Blasio's daughter, suffered from mental illness. In light of that, it is very unfair and wrong to indulge in mockery at her expense, public figure though she is.

    Replies: @UK, @Charon, @OsgoodDeLaPoopoo, @peterike, @128, @Anonymous

    The story of Jekyll and Hyde is essentially one of depression and the addiction that so often serves as a counter-productive escape from it.

    Since this is what Chiara (beautiful name) struggles with, she’d probably really relate to that book, especially as regards her taking part in the riots.

    I’d strongly recommend that she read it. Indeed, I’d wager that it’d be much more meaningful to her, deep down, than any of the infinite diatribes about hair, or whatever, that young ladies of her colour are told they must stress about these days.

    • Thanks: PiltdownMan
  20. Daddy, asked my five year old son, is this what the feminists call ‘gaslighting’?

  21. Altai [AKA "Altai_2"] says:

    Here comes Harvard legacy Conan O’Brien with his take.

    Here are some other videos of Conan showing his commitment towards justice, equality and disgust at violence and oppression.

    He also owns a pair of cowboy boots gifted to him by Vincente Fox, the Mexican George W Bush who I’m sure also has a healthy opinion of his indigenous and heavily Amerindian citizens. O’Brien showed them off as a gift to show their solidarity in hating Trump. O’Brien seems not to note the pattern of Mexico’s white elite loving illegal immigration to the US as a form of release valve to preserve their own corruption and inequality.

    • Agree: notsaying
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Altai


    O’Brien seems not to note the pattern of Mexico’s white elite loving illegal immigration to the US as a form of release valve to preserve their own corruption and inequality.
     
    Hispanics are never seen as white in the US, so O'Brien likely doesn't regard Fox or other Mexicans of his ilk as white people. An Hispanic could be literally Nordic looking but if they had a Spanish sounding name they'd be regarded as a "person of color" in the US.
    , @Neoconned
    @Altai

    Cant speak for others but I've never liked or found conan funny.

    And I was NEVER with Coco....NBC or wjoever was right to get rid of him.

  22. Altai [AKA "Altai_2"] says:
    @PiltdownMan
    Public expression on the streets by certain citizens of New York City has something of a Jekyll and Hyde quality to it. In that sense, they are a bit like a certain member of the mayor's family.

    https://i.imgur.com/JieFRsw.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/6hH9EtD.jpg

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Altai, @Hypnotoad666, @The Wild Geese Howard

    The septum piercing has become the universal cry for help from young women with BPD. It seems to be almost required of FtM transgenders who fail to appreciate that no man has one.

    • LOL: Kyle
  23. @PiltdownMan
    @PiltdownMan

    Mr. Sailer, could you delete my post above, please? I've learned, after I posted it, that the person depicted in it, Bill de Blasio's daughter, suffered from mental illness. In light of that, it is very unfair and wrong to indulge in mockery at her expense, public figure though she is.

    Replies: @UK, @Charon, @OsgoodDeLaPoopoo, @peterike, @128, @Anonymous

    Dude, everyone suffers from mental illness in current year USA. It’s just a matter of degree. Know anything about her parents?

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Charon


    Know anything about her parents?
     
    I dunno. Who are they?
    , @bigdicknick
    @Charon

    was going to say that most of the white rioters and many of the black rioters suffer from mental illness.

  24. @Redneck farmer
    Boy, I would hate to be Wilhelm's designated successor right now.

    Replies: @Charon, @Forbes

    So long as they maintain control of the mass media, they have little to worry about. Cuomo, Keisha, Lori Lightfoot and DeBlasio could personally level their respective cities and states with tanks and bulldozers and the masses would be instructed that Trump was responsible.

    • Replies: @Jane Plain
    @Charon

    If things were normal, I'd guess that Warren's designated successor would be a moderate, pro-binniss Republican. But things aren't normal, so all bets are off.

    Maybe it's my age, but I truly wonder whether we aren't witnessing the end of America. And I always was one of those "get the tinfoil hat off" types. But it's certainly the end of America as you and I know it. Now what?

  25. Altai [AKA "Altai_2"] says:

    Meanwhile in DC, the wealthy Desi-Antifa alliance seems fertile.

    Apparently a Desi capitalist opened his door to the protestors to shelter from police.

    If people like us aren’t going to open the door, then who the fuck will.
    Rahul Dubey, 44 year old first generation Indian-American who owns a healthcare innovations company.

    I also find it interesting that he is called ‘first generation’. Would somebody of any North West European background be called ‘first generation’. I could see Greek or any Eastern European, maybe even Italian. Is that a micro-aggression of othering?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Altai

    "First generation British American", anyone who said that would be laughed at. No "Limey" would ever be considered American.

    , @Jane Plain
    @Altai

    Do you remember Larry Auster? When Obama was re-elected, he coined a phrase: "It's their country now."

    https://twitter.com/AdriannaHopkins/status/1267785458349531136?s=20

    Replies: @Charon

    , @Bragadocious
    @Altai

    So they went into Rahul's 7-11 for some milk. Little did they know it expired 2 months ago.

    , @Bill Jones
    @Altai

    " first generation Indian-American "

    Is a threat: the implication is that there will be a second,third....

    , @Alden
    @Altai

    Healthcare Innovations translation, Medicare Medicaid and health insurance fraud

  26. anonymous[109] • Disclaimer says:

    May said to April, “I see your wager of a superspreader, and I raise you a superlooter.”

    • LOL: Brian Reilly
  27. @nebulafox
    The *real* Hizzoner handled this situation very differently in '68.

    Replies: @George

    The *real* Hizzoner handled this situation very differently in ’68.

    The Mayor was John Lindsay, the last WASP mayor and probably the best looking mayor*.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lindsay#Racial_and_civil_unrest

    If I remember right (Jewish) Mayor Ed Koch claimed Lindsay had the police drop boxes of money in the street to disperse rioters. Maybe a false memory on my part, or Koch’s.

    The gentrifiers must miss the Ghost Shadows and the Westies.

    The last Chinese and Irish to make themselves useful, it’s time to mobilize MS-13:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Shadows
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westies

    * “Beau” Jimmy Walker: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Walker

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @George

    Neb was probably referring to the mayor of the Second City. Now Third... for the moment.

    , @Gary in Gramercy
    @George

    I think nebulafox was referring to The Honorable Richard J. Daley, Mayor of Chicago at the time.

  28. @PiltdownMan
    @PiltdownMan

    Mr. Sailer, could you delete my post above, please? I've learned, after I posted it, that the person depicted in it, Bill de Blasio's daughter, suffered from mental illness. In light of that, it is very unfair and wrong to indulge in mockery at her expense, public figure though she is.

    Replies: @UK, @Charon, @OsgoodDeLaPoopoo, @peterike, @128, @Anonymous

    Could you remove my “lol” as it is unfair yada yada yada.

    • LOL: PiltdownMan
  29. @Achmed E. Newman

    ... who looks suspiciously like Weird Al Yankovic...
     
    He looks more like the Unix Sys-Admin. to me.

    I don't watch the TV so I haven't noticed the trend away from closed-captioning. It seems much less distracting and probably quicker for deaf people at that.

    I wonder if that sign-language guy was actually saying something totally different from what the Commie Mayor was saying, perhaps "Listen, we don't (OK, probably not "Listen") have the situational awareness that the hearing do. Stay the hell inside! Make sure you've got security cameras. This moron I work for is full of it. You don't want anything to do with these people out there expressing their pain downtown. Don't tell any hearing people what I'm saying. I need this job."

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Jane Plain, @Cortes, @Bardon Kaldian, @GMR, @PiltdownMan

    You’ve written the best scene in the next Mike Judge movie. Bravo!

    (OK, probably not “Listen”)

    Right. More likely “Look.”

    He looks more like the Unix Sys-Admin. to me.

    Which pushes the Mike Judge analogy even further.

  30. @Technite78
    It was idiotic to set the curfew for 11pm... that's at least 2 1/2 hours after sunset. And like clockwork, the looting started in earnest around 8:20pm. Looters played cat and mouse with the NYPD, smashing windows, getting chased around the block, and looting on each lap. I had to call the FDNY after some of the discarded boxes were set on fire by looters with help from a black sedan that apparently rendered some kind of logistical support. The sidewalk outside my building is filled with empty Nike boxes. I guess that PR campaign is really paying dividends.

    Outside my hood, NYPD officers were attacked and one even struck by a hit-and-run driver in the Bronx. De Blasio's non-support of the NYPD is likely to lead to at least a partial stand-down... and if the National Guard isn't called in, things will continue to escalate. No bail for "non-violent" offenses, no support of the NYPD, and a mayor that all but admits to being a communist...

    Tonight the curfew is at 8pm... we'll see if this helps.

    And yeah, I shouldn't be here. I'm a native NYer and only returned to NYC full-time to support my aging parents... and once that situation has been properly addressed I'm out of here for good.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Achmed E. Newman, @SunBakedSuburb

    Beverly Hills’ curfew today starts at 1 pm in the afternoon.

    I don’t think Beverly Hills has ever been seriously ransacked before. How bad did it get this time? I was mostly paying attention to next door West Hollywood.

    Beverly Hills has its own police force, while West Hollywood used the LA county sheriffs.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Steve Sailer

    Beverly Hills has largely been built off ((( marketing ))) black Ghetto pathologies to the wider world.

    If it were torched, it would be entirely fitting. I would even chip in for bail money.

    , @HammerJack
    @Steve Sailer

    We have a whole new generation of people who are going to discover that they have a taste for violence. Particularly since the cost is nil and for some even involves profit.

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Steve Sailer

    The West Hollywood police have little rainbow insignias. It makes you wonder how tough they can really get.

    , @Buck Ransom
    @Steve Sailer

    I wonder how many tatted-up, blue-haired Antifa chicks and sullen ghetto girls will be seen later today sporting diaphanous black cocktail frocks they acquired yesterday at the Valentino boutique.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    , @Alden
    @Steve Sailer

    I’m near enough to hear the sirens and helicopters in BH. Had a dr appointment there Monday. They called about 9 am to say they closed for the day. The office is right on Wilshire with a pharmacy on the first floor fronting the sidewalk.

    It’s really a good thing UCLA and other colleges are closed down. They’ve all got militant black organizations.

    , @hhsiii
    @Steve Sailer

    In NY, Cuomo made a big point of saying the looters are looting their own neighborhoods in the Bronx where we are trying to help them. Who you mean we, Kemosabe. And tanks for suggesting looting the Upper East Side makes more sense.

    From what I hear most of the carriage trade places boarded up fast. Not too different than your average PR Day parade not too long ago.

    They got the smoke shop next to my favorite wine store and craft beer joints on 60th and 2nd. But left the liquor places alone. Guess they don’t care for a succulent dry-hopped IPA. My friend the bartender is a sweet ex punk rocker from Jacksonville, looks somewhat like a new wave Cletus, so they likely thought he was packing.

  31. @Charon
    @Redneck farmer

    So long as they maintain control of the mass media, they have little to worry about. Cuomo, Keisha, Lori Lightfoot and DeBlasio could personally level their respective cities and states with tanks and bulldozers and the masses would be instructed that Trump was responsible.

    Replies: @Jane Plain

    If things were normal, I’d guess that Warren’s designated successor would be a moderate, pro-binniss Republican. But things aren’t normal, so all bets are off.

    Maybe it’s my age, but I truly wonder whether we aren’t witnessing the end of America. And I always was one of those “get the tinfoil hat off” types. But it’s certainly the end of America as you and I know it. Now what?

  32. Steve, I figured that the Historically Black (er, I mean Deaf) colleges needed some place for all these otherwise difficult-to-profitably-employ-at any-wage graduates to work. The speaking-able racketeeers who broker for the deaf people lobbied government to insist on a sign language employee for every government official that ever addresses the public. That is the way it seems, anyway. Maybe we should ask that pretty, deaf actress who was such a big deal twentyfive years ago. She would be able to school us, I bet.

  33. Altai [AKA "Altai_2"] says:

    Jimi Hendrix came back from the dead to post on Twitter that he doesn’t agree with police manslaughter.

    It’s part of this #TheShowMustBePaused hashtag.

  34. Anonymous[122] • Disclaimer says:

    White Americans love to do the gun-toting, “tough guy” act but really are incredible spineless people totally lacking in substance. They also lack the gumption to admit the racial nature of these riots and would rather blame ANTIFA, Russians, ChiComs, etc. Anything but admit the racial animus that exists in their country.

    I’m British (people white Americans have no qualms about hating), and frankly I hope Boris Johnson ditches the dying nation that is America and signs up with China’s Belt and Road Initiative, the US is finished.

    • Disagree: Lurker
    • Replies: @Mr. Blank
    @Anonymous

    One of the things that you Brits seem to forget is that America is a VERY big country. The reason the "gun-toting tough guys" are fairly clueless about the rioters, and the reason they never end up clashing with the crazy rioters, is because they live a LOOOONGGG way away from where the riots are actually happening.

    I live out in the sticks. Life here remains completely normal. You'd never know out here that the cities are ablaze.

    When people get fed up with some place in America, they move away. Often a long, long, long way away. It affects the culture and politics in ways that Europeans rarely seem to appreciate.

  35. @Achmed E. Newman

    ... who looks suspiciously like Weird Al Yankovic...
     
    He looks more like the Unix Sys-Admin. to me.

    I don't watch the TV so I haven't noticed the trend away from closed-captioning. It seems much less distracting and probably quicker for deaf people at that.

    I wonder if that sign-language guy was actually saying something totally different from what the Commie Mayor was saying, perhaps "Listen, we don't (OK, probably not "Listen") have the situational awareness that the hearing do. Stay the hell inside! Make sure you've got security cameras. This moron I work for is full of it. You don't want anything to do with these people out there expressing their pain downtown. Don't tell any hearing people what I'm saying. I need this job."

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Jane Plain, @Cortes, @Bardon Kaldian, @GMR, @PiltdownMan

    Reminds me of the “Rab McGlinchy interpreting for the neds” sketches (“ned” = “non-educated delinquent”) in a BBC comedy show:

  36. @Steve Sailer
    @Technite78

    Beverly Hills' curfew today starts at 1 pm in the afternoon.

    I don't think Beverly Hills has ever been seriously ransacked before. How bad did it get this time? I was mostly paying attention to next door West Hollywood.

    Beverly Hills has its own police force, while West Hollywood used the LA county sheriffs.

    Replies: @Anon, @HammerJack, @Hypnotoad666, @Buck Ransom, @Alden, @hhsiii

    Beverly Hills has largely been built off ((( marketing ))) black Ghetto pathologies to the wider world.

    If it were torched, it would be entirely fitting. I would even chip in for bail money.

  37. @Charon
    @PiltdownMan

    Dude, everyone suffers from mental illness in current year USA. It's just a matter of degree. Know anything about her parents?

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @bigdicknick

    Know anything about her parents?

    I dunno. Who are they?

  38. Anonymous[122] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai
    Meanwhile in DC, the wealthy Desi-Antifa alliance seems fertile.

    https://twitter.com/_Crypto_Maniac_/status/1267665396338958338

    Apparently a Desi capitalist opened his door to the protestors to shelter from police.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZezWMEUMAMHNs0.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZezWMNUEAUf_kM.jpg


    If people like us aren't going to open the door, then who the fuck will.
    -Rahul Dubey, 44 year old first generation Indian-American who owns a healthcare innovations company.
     
    I also find it interesting that he is called 'first generation'. Would somebody of any North West European background be called 'first generation'. I could see Greek or any Eastern European, maybe even Italian. Is that a micro-aggression of othering?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jane Plain, @Bragadocious, @Bill Jones, @Alden

    “First generation British American”, anyone who said that would be laughed at. No “Limey” would ever be considered American.

  39. @Altai
    Meanwhile in DC, the wealthy Desi-Antifa alliance seems fertile.

    https://twitter.com/_Crypto_Maniac_/status/1267665396338958338

    Apparently a Desi capitalist opened his door to the protestors to shelter from police.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZezWMEUMAMHNs0.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZezWMNUEAUf_kM.jpg


    If people like us aren't going to open the door, then who the fuck will.
    -Rahul Dubey, 44 year old first generation Indian-American who owns a healthcare innovations company.
     
    I also find it interesting that he is called 'first generation'. Would somebody of any North West European background be called 'first generation'. I could see Greek or any Eastern European, maybe even Italian. Is that a micro-aggression of othering?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jane Plain, @Bragadocious, @Bill Jones, @Alden

    Do you remember Larry Auster? When Obama was re-elected, he coined a phrase: “It’s their country now.”

    • Replies: @Charon
    @Jane Plain

    Unlike them, we're less likely to believe MSM/TwitterTales which support the Narrative.. They are more likely to believe them. Probably not exaggerating to say that's the only time they'll believe.

  40. I know you thrive on attacking political correctness, so I’m not surprised by you questioning why a sign language interpreter is used when closed caption could have been used. However, the same logic would mean that whatever speech/announcement is being given could just as well be given via text – why bother speaking at all? I think the act of personally delivering a message is important to people – that’s why it is done. If so, then it is equally important to deliver something comparable for the hearing-impaired. Targeting the latter as politically correct nonsense, but not the former, seems to me to indicate your own deep-seated bias.

    • Replies: @res
    @politically correct

    I think the opposite. The sign language interpreter off to the side requires focusing on that thus looking away from the actual speaker whose personal delivery is what matters. Subtitles directly beneath the speaker allow paying attention to both. The sign language interpreter might be necessary for a live in person speech though.

    There is also the issue of the sign language interpreter distracting everyone else from the speaker. One of the interesting trends in our Brave New World is how we inconvenience 99+% of people in an effort to help a tiny fraction. A great example was online classes being cancelled because they were not sufficiently accessible.
    https://news.berkeley.edu/2017/03/01/course-capture/

    I'm kind of curious what happened to lip reading. Which would allow EXACTLY what you are looking for.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Achmed E. Newman, @Lagertha

    , @Peter D. Bredon
    @politically correct

    Yeah, that's why those classy European movies have an interpreter in the corner.

    Replies: @Cortes

    , @dimples
    @politically correct

    Whenever I see this sign language interpreter thing I just turn off the boob tube, or if this is not possible just walk out. What percentage of the population is deaf? Not a lot. They got along perfectly well before political correctness came along. What happens when deaf people want to go to the shops? Why doesn't the nanny state provide all deaf people with their personal sign language interpreter? It's surely overdue, then normal people wouldn't have to watch this shit.

    This shit is literal virtue signalling. When you see it you know that civilization has turned into a parody of itself.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  41. @PiltdownMan
    @PiltdownMan

    Mr. Sailer, could you delete my post above, please? I've learned, after I posted it, that the person depicted in it, Bill de Blasio's daughter, suffered from mental illness. In light of that, it is very unfair and wrong to indulge in mockery at her expense, public figure though she is.

    Replies: @UK, @Charon, @OsgoodDeLaPoopoo, @peterike, @128, @Anonymous

    I’ve learned, after I posted it, that the person depicted in it, Bill de Blasio’s daughter, suffered from mental illness.

    Well if you were the bi-racial product of a soy-addled, anti-white white man and a butch, black Lesbian, you’d have mental illness too.

    • Agree: Hemid
  42. @Anonymous
    Maybe in the big picture, the fall of America will be merely a quiet affair?

    Replies: @Tiny Duck, @Ray P, @The Alarmist, @AnotherDad

    Yes, the end of racism and white supremacy will be a quite affair. Or would be if not for conservative white people resisting progress

    Most of the violence is done by white supremacists and right wingers

    • Troll: Unladen Swallow
  43. • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Morris Applebaum IV

    Robert Johnson? We paid that fucker off already. What's he want now, to be able to play the viola?

    , @Neoconned
    @Morris Applebaum IV

    I wonder if BET will even be a thing when all this settles down and half of Manhattan is deserted....

  44. Bach to Minneapolis and “Assault On Precinct 13”, how many instances are there of police abandoning a “precinct” (or police station as we call them over here) to be burned and looted?

    Is the Minnesota 3rd Precinct the first, or does this happen a lot?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I was just thinking about this, I was going to say I've never heard of this when I remembered Sweden, where it's normal. In the US and a few other countries it's probably never happened. The closest common event might be prison takeovers, which, looking at Attica or the English and Brazilian ones, are very different anyway because the prisoners have huge advantages and order is restored pretty quickly. Simply abandoning a police post is new, delighted to be corrected.

  45. @Steve Sailer
    @Technite78

    Beverly Hills' curfew today starts at 1 pm in the afternoon.

    I don't think Beverly Hills has ever been seriously ransacked before. How bad did it get this time? I was mostly paying attention to next door West Hollywood.

    Beverly Hills has its own police force, while West Hollywood used the LA county sheriffs.

    Replies: @Anon, @HammerJack, @Hypnotoad666, @Buck Ransom, @Alden, @hhsiii

    We have a whole new generation of people who are going to discover that they have a taste for violence. Particularly since the cost is nil and for some even involves profit.

  46. A crazy game is developing between the blue state/city governments (e.g. DeBlasio) and the police.

    The mayor needs the physical authority of the cops cause otherwise the rioters will bash in his head with a 2×4. But the cops need the political authority of the mayor because otherwise their pensions are toast. So when the mayor says to the cops: you aren’t allowed to protect yourselves either, you have to just let them throw shit at you… what happens? How long are the cops going to keep letting themselves get run over, shot, burned, etc etc in hopes that this passes over and they get back on track to The Pension?

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Not My Economy

    Don’t forget that all their injuries and time off to recover are covered by the city’s Workmen’s Compensation insurance carrier. So are projected life long earnings of police killed on duty.

    And WComp insurance companies raise their rates when claims are made higher than any other type of insurance.

    , @leterip
    @Not My Economy

    I have a related question. Perhaps there are some police/ex-police here to help me understand why the police continue to be punching bags. "Economy" mentioned pensions but I don't think that is the explanation. Why doesn't some police union simply say they are unwilling to continue to allow their members to be punching bags and organize a sick-out or something?

    , @leterip
    @Not My Economy

    I have a related question. Perhaps there are some police/ex-police here to help me understand why the police continue to be punching bags. "Economy" mentioned pensions but I don't think that is the explanation. Why doesn't some police union simply say they are unwilling to continue to allow their members to be punching bags and organize a sick-out or something?

  47. Remember the “sign language interpreter” at Nelson Mandela’s funeral? The guy was just making random movements with his hands. He “interpreted” the speeches of the world’s leaders, not even knowing the basic signs such as “thank you” or “Mandela”.

    • LOL: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @Cortes
    @Rob McX

    Many thanks for the reminder. That was one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen.

    , @kaganovitch
    @Rob McX

    Remember the “sign language interpreter” at Nelson Mandela’s funeral? The guy was just making random movements with his hands. He “interpreted” the speeches of the world’s leaders, not even knowing the basic signs such as “thank you” or “Mandela”.

    The Monte Pythonesque trend in contemporary society is only accelerating. It's somehow not as funny in real life.

    , @silviosilver
    @Rob McX

    Hah, I forgot all about that. What a classic. I bet he's not the last we see.

  48. @UK
    This is yet another mostly harmful form of progressive identity politics.

    Just as you're not really black if you don't vote for Biden, you're not really deaf if you don't self-segregate via focussing obsessively on sign language.

    Indeed, "Deaf culture" (always with a capital D) prioritises all 200 or so sign languages. Yes, there are that many, it is very "people's front for the liberation of Judea" or whatever.

    One genuinely detrimental consequence is that many deaf children whom modern technology could make hearing are kept away from such assists. This is because of all of the predictable, if often totally understandable reasons, that ID politics types always use. "Deafness is a gain" so "curing" it is a loss. Not all deaf people will benefit so they will feel abandoned. Learning to speak and hear is selling out to society's unjust "audist" standards.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh

    I have seen “blindness advocates” promoting blindness as a desirable quality not to be cured.

    • Replies: @UK
    @Daniel Chieh

    The concept of self-acceptance has been so degraded in politicised discourse that blind people are being told that they should not seek to see.

    Imagine how hard you'd have to repress your excitement at being able to watch a sunset for the first time in your life that you'd be able to refuse it...

  49. @Technite78
    It was idiotic to set the curfew for 11pm... that's at least 2 1/2 hours after sunset. And like clockwork, the looting started in earnest around 8:20pm. Looters played cat and mouse with the NYPD, smashing windows, getting chased around the block, and looting on each lap. I had to call the FDNY after some of the discarded boxes were set on fire by looters with help from a black sedan that apparently rendered some kind of logistical support. The sidewalk outside my building is filled with empty Nike boxes. I guess that PR campaign is really paying dividends.

    Outside my hood, NYPD officers were attacked and one even struck by a hit-and-run driver in the Bronx. De Blasio's non-support of the NYPD is likely to lead to at least a partial stand-down... and if the National Guard isn't called in, things will continue to escalate. No bail for "non-violent" offenses, no support of the NYPD, and a mayor that all but admits to being a communist...

    Tonight the curfew is at 8pm... we'll see if this helps.

    And yeah, I shouldn't be here. I'm a native NYer and only returned to NYC full-time to support my aging parents... and once that situation has been properly addressed I'm out of here for good.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Achmed E. Newman, @SunBakedSuburb

    Thanks for that personal report, Technite. I’d like to see more of that from different commenters here. Right now, I got nuthin’.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I lived in a leafy liberal suburb of the Imperial Capital for a number of years. I sold my house for a handsome sum of money and GTFO May 1st, just in time.

    I now live is a small town in Appalachia. Lots of overweight hillbillies, not very many good looking women, very few POCS, but everybody is very friendly.

    The Kroger clerk this morning said there was going to be a protest downtown, and wondered if he should buy a gun. I told him yes.

    Absolutely nothing has happened here. We don't have the black and antifa raw material and the locals are armed to the teeth.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Anonymous
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Thanks for that personal report, Technite. I’d like to see more of that from different commenters here.
     
    Having had a close chum emerge much the worse for wear from the North London Riots of just under a decade ago, I would be far more pleased if everyone here had no first-hand accounts to offer.

    Some things come at too high a price.
  50. @YetAnotherAnon
    People in previous threads were suggesting that the first ('official') Floyd autopsy had been memory-holed.

    It can be downloaded from here.

    https://www.tmz.com/2020/06/01/george-floyd-cause-of-death-heart-attack-fentanyl/

    Said he had a heart attack "cardiac arrest complicating (? does that mean related to?) law enforcment subdual (is that the term for the state of having been subdued?) , restraint, and neck compression.

    Other significant conditions : Arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease; fentanyl intoxication; recent amphetamine use.

    I'm surprised there weren't some figures here as to the degree of intoxication.

    Manner of death - Homicide (followed by a disclaimer re no legal determination of culpability). I think we're all agreed he wouldn't have died that day if he hadn't been arrested.

    Replies: @Redman, @BenKenobi, @danand, @Buck Ransom, @ThreeCranes

    The Baden guy, who seems to be hired as a second opinion for every famous autopsy, said Floyd had minimal underlying health conditions. And that he died from Chauvin’s neck hold.

    Interesting that both CNN and FOX are loudly proclaiming his opinion as superior to the MN coroner. Yet when he said that Epstein didn’t commit suicide last year, most claimed he was a quack. Move along. Nothing to see here, nothing to see here.

    Whatever happened with that Epstein investigation anyway? It’s been a while and zilch.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Redman

    Baden is the Gloria Allred of medical examiners. He's a hearse-chaser.

    , @Anonymous
    @Redman


    The Baden guy, who seems to be hired as a second opinion for every famous autopsy, said Floyd had minimal underlying health conditions.
     
    I would give a lot to know what sort of reputation this Baden fellow has among his fellow medical examiners.

    From what I gather, his entire career is based on finding fault with the work they performed; I don't imagine he makes many friends earning a living that way.
  51. I will make a prediction.

    As far as gentrification is concerned, the upper middle class will hit the rewind button.
    In the wake of the epidemic and looting, the suburbs will be back in favor!

  52. Anonymous[961] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai
    Here comes Harvard legacy Conan O'Brien with his take.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyE-fbqlIRg

    Here are some other videos of Conan showing his commitment towards justice, equality and disgust at violence and oppression.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khuUX79Qboo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-aJf2fiY1c

    He also owns a pair of cowboy boots gifted to him by Vincente Fox, the Mexican George W Bush who I'm sure also has a healthy opinion of his indigenous and heavily Amerindian citizens. O'Brien showed them off as a gift to show their solidarity in hating Trump. O'Brien seems not to note the pattern of Mexico's white elite loving illegal immigration to the US as a form of release valve to preserve their own corruption and inequality.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Neoconned

    O’Brien seems not to note the pattern of Mexico’s white elite loving illegal immigration to the US as a form of release valve to preserve their own corruption and inequality.

    Hispanics are never seen as white in the US, so O’Brien likely doesn’t regard Fox or other Mexicans of his ilk as white people. An Hispanic could be literally Nordic looking but if they had a Spanish sounding name they’d be regarded as a “person of color” in the US.

  53. @Rob McX
    Remember the "sign language interpreter" at Nelson Mandela's funeral? The guy was just making random movements with his hands. He "interpreted" the speeches of the world's leaders, not even knowing the basic signs such as "thank you" or "Mandela".


    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2013/12/12/1386868345217/Barack-Obama-alongside-si-009.jpg?width=605&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=94f4592d96dc314f46b28fdb06303466

    Replies: @Cortes, @kaganovitch, @silviosilver

    Many thanks for the reminder. That was one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen.

  54. Since most of public announcements accompanied by sign language interpreters are, in my opinion, typically Cape-Flapping; I propose that sign language interpreters should henceforth:

    1. Stand in front of the speaker who is being interpreted
    2. Wear capes
    3. Flap their capes vigorously as they perform their interpretations

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Coemgen


    Since most of public announcements accompanied by sign language interpreters are, in my opinion, typically Cape-Flapping; I propose that sign language interpreters should henceforth:

    1. Stand in front of the speaker who is being interpreted
    2. Wear capes
    3. Flap their capes vigorously as they perform their interpretations
     
    Seeing as these "interpreters" are paid for out of the public purse, why not eschew sign language altogether in favour of interpretive dance?

    (If you ask nicely, you may even get dancers wearing capes.)

    Replies: @Coemgen

  55. Would be interesting if the protests focused more on Silicon Valley.

    The only solution I see is for all these liberals to get diversity as hard as possible, with no White men to protect them.

    Why would any White men risk his life for people who hate him?

  56. @Anonymous
    This unrest has really emphasised to me how much white Americans worship blacks, so much so they would rather convince themselves that their country is being burnt down by white ANTIFA members and Russians than admit that it's African-Americans who are robbing them, destroy their property and bashing their brains out.

    I'm not just talking about white leftists either, the American "right" seem as invested in black victimhood as the left do.

    Replies: @Steve Richter, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

    I’m not just talking about white leftists either, the American “right” seem as invested in black victimhood as the left do.

    best I can explain it is it is equal parts fear and condescension. But it is complicated. There is also the wanting to feel they are better than other whites.

  57. rioter terrified because he is being arrested:

  58. @YetAnotherAnon
    People in previous threads were suggesting that the first ('official') Floyd autopsy had been memory-holed.

    It can be downloaded from here.

    https://www.tmz.com/2020/06/01/george-floyd-cause-of-death-heart-attack-fentanyl/

    Said he had a heart attack "cardiac arrest complicating (? does that mean related to?) law enforcment subdual (is that the term for the state of having been subdued?) , restraint, and neck compression.

    Other significant conditions : Arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease; fentanyl intoxication; recent amphetamine use.

    I'm surprised there weren't some figures here as to the degree of intoxication.

    Manner of death - Homicide (followed by a disclaimer re no legal determination of culpability). I think we're all agreed he wouldn't have died that day if he hadn't been arrested.

    Replies: @Redman, @BenKenobi, @danand, @Buck Ransom, @ThreeCranes

    law enforcment subdual (is that the term for the state of having been subdued?)

    Maybe it’s referring to this:

    https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=ritual+of+subdual

  59. @Anonymous
    Maybe in the big picture, the fall of America will be merely a quiet affair?

    Replies: @Tiny Duck, @Ray P, @The Alarmist, @AnotherDad

    Arranged by the Quiet American? Will it be like the promised Quiet Revolution of Conservative British prime minister Edward Heath (1970-1974)?

    Mr Heath wanted to ‘permanently change the outlook of the British people,’ he said grandly, for ‘to cling desperately to the present will be to find ourselves embracing only the past.’ … ‘If we are to achieve this task, we will have to embark on a change so radical, a revolution so quiet and yet so total, that it will go far beyond the programme for a parliament to which we are committed and on which we have already embarked: far beyond this decade and way into the nineteen eighties.’

    –Dominic Sandbrook, State of Emergency.

    What next? Quiet rape? Quiet murder? Quiet genocide?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Ray P


    Quiet Revolution of Conservative British prime minister Edward Heath (1970-1974)?
     
    Ted Heath, a confirmed bachelor, liked to visit the Isle of Jersey off the French coast, home of the infamous the Haut de la Garenne orphanage.

    One man alleged he was raped repeatedly by Krichefski and another man – whom he knew only as “the posh bastard” – in the early 1960s at Haut de la Garenne. He said the senator told him: “Be a good boy and do as you are told otherwise you will never go home.”
     
    BBC television star and bisexual rapist Jimmy Savile was another frequent visitor at Haut de la Garenne. No serious enquiry took place during the lifetime of either man.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/03/haut-de-la-garenne-house-of-horror-investigation-brought-jersey-abuse-to-light

  60. UK says:
    @Daniel Chieh
    @UK

    I have seen "blindness advocates" promoting blindness as a desirable quality not to be cured.

    Replies: @UK

    The concept of self-acceptance has been so degraded in politicised discourse that blind people are being told that they should not seek to see.

    Imagine how hard you’d have to repress your excitement at being able to watch a sunset for the first time in your life that you’d be able to refuse it…

  61. I’ve always thought that sign language interpreters were weirdos. The women seem to be fat, homely variations on prisoner penpal “wives.” The guys I really don’t get at all, unless they are hearing kids of deaf parents. Otherwise, why the hell would anyone learn sign language?

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Anon

    SixNineOne, In the Rochester and surrounding area a student can take ASL as their foreign language requirement. So a student who becomes proficient in ASL has a leg up on counseling deaf students, because who wants a third person in the room when you are talking to a school counselor or school pyschologist? So, I know people who are school pyschologists and know ASL. In our Buffalo suburb school district they provide an ASL interpreter to deaf students and pay $65 per hour. So, that's who learns ASL. See, if you ask a question on iSteve you usually get an answer.

  62. Anonymous[231] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    This unrest has really emphasised to me how much white Americans worship blacks, so much so they would rather convince themselves that their country is being burnt down by white ANTIFA members and Russians than admit that it's African-Americans who are robbing them, destroy their property and bashing their brains out.

    I'm not just talking about white leftists either, the American "right" seem as invested in black victimhood as the left do.

    Replies: @Steve Richter, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

    This unrest has really emphasised to me how much white Americans worship blacks

    It isn’t so much that they worship blacks, as that they fear Jews.

  63. I love the arm wavers—oops I mean the sign language interpreters–they make every speech seem like a bit from Saturday Night Live—wish they could get Garret Morris to do them!

    • Agree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
  64. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    I Loot NY

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @Anonymous

    Excellent!

    Hope the merchandise makes you rich.

  65. @silviosilver

    When did closed-captions get disinvented, anyway?
     
    When Charles Murray on Twitter recently mocked sign language interpreters being present at every announcement, he was told hey, reading English is hard, and not all deaf people are up to it.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    Yeah, but do these bigots put out a version of the speech in braille, for the visually impaired who can’t stand to listen to De Blasio?

  66. @Steve Sailer
    @Technite78

    Beverly Hills' curfew today starts at 1 pm in the afternoon.

    I don't think Beverly Hills has ever been seriously ransacked before. How bad did it get this time? I was mostly paying attention to next door West Hollywood.

    Beverly Hills has its own police force, while West Hollywood used the LA county sheriffs.

    Replies: @Anon, @HammerJack, @Hypnotoad666, @Buck Ransom, @Alden, @hhsiii

    The West Hollywood police have little rainbow insignias. It makes you wonder how tough they can really get.

  67. Anonymous[324] • Disclaimer says:

    The current logic.

    1. Covid is a death sentence. It will kill untold numbers of people. Letting people move freely is akin to mass murder. For the sake of the people, they must be forced to stay locked down or do social distancing.

    2. Protests(and riots) are justified. Everyone get out and protest against ‘white racism’ and police brutality. Come on out and join in.

    Hmm. If Covid is a death sentence and if mobs will spread the disease and kill untold numbers of people, isn’t calling on people to protest a death sentence for all those blacks and proglodytes who constitute most of the mobs?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    This is gold. We might add "Russians and/or Nazis are exploiting our divisions" next to "a collage of voices moved to speak out against police brutality and racism," or "white nationalists are turning peaceful protests into crimes" next to "Hollywood celebrities paying bail for arrested rioters."

  68. @Altai
    Meanwhile in DC, the wealthy Desi-Antifa alliance seems fertile.

    https://twitter.com/_Crypto_Maniac_/status/1267665396338958338

    Apparently a Desi capitalist opened his door to the protestors to shelter from police.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZezWMEUMAMHNs0.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZezWMNUEAUf_kM.jpg


    If people like us aren't going to open the door, then who the fuck will.
    -Rahul Dubey, 44 year old first generation Indian-American who owns a healthcare innovations company.
     
    I also find it interesting that he is called 'first generation'. Would somebody of any North West European background be called 'first generation'. I could see Greek or any Eastern European, maybe even Italian. Is that a micro-aggression of othering?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jane Plain, @Bragadocious, @Bill Jones, @Alden

    So they went into Rahul’s 7-11 for some milk. Little did they know it expired 2 months ago.

  69. • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Joe Stalin

    "American Pharoah".

    BTW, George, this is the real Hizzoner I was referring to, THE Hizzoner who was busy defending his people and his city as a real mayor is supposed to do while Lindsey was kissing the butts of the radical chic types. I'd give anything to see Daley Sr's version of the CPD have five minutes alone with Antifa.

  70. @PiltdownMan
    @PiltdownMan

    Mr. Sailer, could you delete my post above, please? I've learned, after I posted it, that the person depicted in it, Bill de Blasio's daughter, suffered from mental illness. In light of that, it is very unfair and wrong to indulge in mockery at her expense, public figure though she is.

    Replies: @UK, @Charon, @OsgoodDeLaPoopoo, @peterike, @128, @Anonymous

    NO she is just a moral degenerate who should have her head bashed in with a rifle butt if only someone like Pinochet or Galtieri was in charge.

  71. @PiltdownMan
    Public expression on the streets by certain citizens of New York City has something of a Jekyll and Hyde quality to it. In that sense, they are a bit like a certain member of the mayor's family.

    https://i.imgur.com/JieFRsw.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/6hH9EtD.jpg

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Altai, @Hypnotoad666, @The Wild Geese Howard

    Leftism is a progressive disease, similar to meth addiction. Say “No” to leftism.

    https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/before-after-meth-users#photo-1

  72. Hey Steve! How about a thread something like “What would you do to stop this?”

    I have thought about it and don’t see many good options. The military isn’t trained for civil unrest. The cops are out numbered even when not politically restrained. Antifa seems pretty well organized in their tactics.

    The MSM would love to see shooting start so they can blame DJT for the many deaths that will ensue.

  73. @YetAnotherAnon
    People in previous threads were suggesting that the first ('official') Floyd autopsy had been memory-holed.

    It can be downloaded from here.

    https://www.tmz.com/2020/06/01/george-floyd-cause-of-death-heart-attack-fentanyl/

    Said he had a heart attack "cardiac arrest complicating (? does that mean related to?) law enforcment subdual (is that the term for the state of having been subdued?) , restraint, and neck compression.

    Other significant conditions : Arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease; fentanyl intoxication; recent amphetamine use.

    I'm surprised there weren't some figures here as to the degree of intoxication.

    Manner of death - Homicide (followed by a disclaimer re no legal determination of culpability). I think we're all agreed he wouldn't have died that day if he hadn't been arrested.

    Replies: @Redman, @BenKenobi, @danand, @Buck Ransom, @ThreeCranes

    I thought the officers were said to have assassinated Floyd in front of multiple cameras 🎥 during daylight hours? Is 9:25PM daylight at this time of year in Minneapolis?

    CCC3A848-A657-471F-A36F-1031E1B9C738

    • Replies: @utu
    @danand

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_George_Floyd
    At 8:32 pm, the fire department arrived at the scene.According to the fire department's report, the police officers gave no clear information regarding Floyd's condition or whereabouts, which delayed their ability to assist the ambulance. Meanwhile, the ambulance carrying Floyd again called for assistance from the fire department, asking them to meet at the corner of 36th Street and Park Avenue, and reporting that Floyd was going into cardiac arrest. Five minutes later, the fire department reached the ambulance. Two fire department medics who boarded the ambulance described Floyd in their report as an "unresponsive, pulseless male".

    Floyd was pronounced dead at 9:25 pm at the Hennepin County Medical Center emergency room, according to the incident report.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

  74. De Blasio: the Sack of Manhattan Was, in the Big Picture, Merely a Quiet Riot

    I got confused there. Does “The Sack of Manhattan” refer to the recent events, or to De Blasio himself.

  75. utu says:
    @danand
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I thought the officers were said to have assassinated Floyd in front of multiple cameras 🎥 during daylight hours? Is 9:25PM daylight at this time of year in Minneapolis?

    https://flic.kr/p/2j85CCj

    Replies: @utu

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_George_Floyd
    At 8:32 pm, the fire department arrived at the scene.According to the fire department’s report, the police officers gave no clear information regarding Floyd’s condition or whereabouts, which delayed their ability to assist the ambulance. Meanwhile, the ambulance carrying Floyd again called for assistance from the fire department, asking them to meet at the corner of 36th Street and Park Avenue, and reporting that Floyd was going into cardiac arrest. Five minutes later, the fire department reached the ambulance. Two fire department medics who boarded the ambulance described Floyd in their report as an “unresponsive, pulseless male”.

    Floyd was pronounced dead at 9:25 pm at the Hennepin County Medical Center emergency room, according to the incident report.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @utu


    Floyd was pronounced dead at 9:25 pm at the Hennepin County Medical Center emergency room, according to the incident report.
     
    Where Charles M Schulz was born 97 years ago. Not in the hospital, but in a house in the neighborhood the hospital replaced.
    , @Anonymous
    @utu


    At 8:32 pm, the fire department arrived at the scene.According to the fire department’s report, the police officers gave no clear information regarding Floyd’s condition or whereabouts, which delayed their ability to assist the ambulance. Meanwhile, the ambulance carrying Floyd again called for assistance from the fire department, asking them to meet at the corner of 36th Street and Park Avenue, and reporting that Floyd was going into cardiac arrest. Five minutes later, the fire department reached the ambulance. Two fire department medics who boarded the ambulance described Floyd in their report as an “unresponsive, pulseless male”.
     
    Why did the ambulance need assistance from the fire department?

    Who called the ambulance and the fire department?
  76. I would greatly respect a politician who would perform their own sign language while speaking. Imagine how impressive Biden and Trump would look if while debating, they both spoke and signed simultaneously. And if they rhymed, even more better. Add a few women of color twerking beside the podiums and you’ve got an extravaganza.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Just another serf


    I would greatly respect a politician who would perform their own sign language while speaking. Imagine how impressive Biden and Trump would look if while debating, they both spoke and signed simultaneously. And if they rhymed, even more better.
     
    Consider forcing your politicians into conducting their debates in Cockney rhyming slang.

    (Hugely expressive. Puts sign language in the shade.)
  77. Cuomo also warned protesting New Yorkers protesters that “we don’t know the consequences of the COVID virus in mass gatherings.”

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/andrew-cuomo-press-conference-coronavirus-george-floyd-protests-today-2020-06-02/

    Ha ha everybody knows the virus was false alarm–hoax–scam–total bullshit by now.

  78. Closed captions are for people who lost their hearing after learning to speak and read. Sign language is for those born deaf. Not only is it completely unrelated to English, it’s not even linear, as it uses the whole space around the signer as well as motion to convey meaning. Translating between sign and speech is hard, and I doubt that many can do it well.

  79. @YetAnotherAnon
    People in previous threads were suggesting that the first ('official') Floyd autopsy had been memory-holed.

    It can be downloaded from here.

    https://www.tmz.com/2020/06/01/george-floyd-cause-of-death-heart-attack-fentanyl/

    Said he had a heart attack "cardiac arrest complicating (? does that mean related to?) law enforcment subdual (is that the term for the state of having been subdued?) , restraint, and neck compression.

    Other significant conditions : Arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease; fentanyl intoxication; recent amphetamine use.

    I'm surprised there weren't some figures here as to the degree of intoxication.

    Manner of death - Homicide (followed by a disclaimer re no legal determination of culpability). I think we're all agreed he wouldn't have died that day if he hadn't been arrested.

    Replies: @Redman, @BenKenobi, @danand, @Buck Ransom, @ThreeCranes

    This will be one of the few, very rare U.S. deaths of Spring 2020 not attributed to
    Covid-19 on the death certificate.

    • Replies: @Che Blutarsky
    @Buck Ransom

    The covid shutdown killed him, though. Lost his job, started hitting the drugs again, got restrained in a terrible position when passing out from Fentanyl, died. No covid shutdown, and this doesn't happen.

    The DNC riots probably still happen, though, with something else triggering it, as this thing has the look of the Tet Offensive.

  80. @Charon
    @PiltdownMan

    Dude, everyone suffers from mental illness in current year USA. It's just a matter of degree. Know anything about her parents?

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @bigdicknick

    was going to say that most of the white rioters and many of the black rioters suffer from mental illness.

  81. @Steve Sailer
    @Technite78

    Beverly Hills' curfew today starts at 1 pm in the afternoon.

    I don't think Beverly Hills has ever been seriously ransacked before. How bad did it get this time? I was mostly paying attention to next door West Hollywood.

    Beverly Hills has its own police force, while West Hollywood used the LA county sheriffs.

    Replies: @Anon, @HammerJack, @Hypnotoad666, @Buck Ransom, @Alden, @hhsiii

    I wonder how many tatted-up, blue-haired Antifa chicks and sullen ghetto girls will be seen later today sporting diaphanous black cocktail frocks they acquired yesterday at the Valentino boutique.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Buck Ransom

    The market for "sullen ghetto girls" in "diaphanous black cocktail frocks" is surely nil. But in George Floyd's New Normal beauty standards will finally change. Look forward to it, racist.

  82. @Rob McX
    Remember the "sign language interpreter" at Nelson Mandela's funeral? The guy was just making random movements with his hands. He "interpreted" the speeches of the world's leaders, not even knowing the basic signs such as "thank you" or "Mandela".


    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2013/12/12/1386868345217/Barack-Obama-alongside-si-009.jpg?width=605&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=94f4592d96dc314f46b28fdb06303466

    Replies: @Cortes, @kaganovitch, @silviosilver

    Remember the “sign language interpreter” at Nelson Mandela’s funeral? The guy was just making random movements with his hands. He “interpreted” the speeches of the world’s leaders, not even knowing the basic signs such as “thank you” or “Mandela”.

    The Monte Pythonesque trend in contemporary society is only accelerating. It’s somehow not as funny in real life.

  83. @Redneck farmer
    Boy, I would hate to be Wilhelm's designated successor right now.

    Replies: @Charon, @Forbes

    There’s probably a dozen people vying to position themselves to follow. NYC doesn’t lack for little dictators. After Kaiser Wilhelm, the bar is set pretty low.

    How many people imagine they could do at least as well as a lazy mayor who’s late to every function, meeting and appointment, who makes sure he gets chauffeured to the gym every morning for his 10 am workout, after which he starts his workday?

  84. @George
    @nebulafox

    The *real* Hizzoner handled this situation very differently in ’68.

    The Mayor was John Lindsay, the last WASP mayor and probably the best looking mayor*.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lindsay#Racial_and_civil_unrest

    If I remember right (Jewish) Mayor Ed Koch claimed Lindsay had the police drop boxes of money in the street to disperse rioters. Maybe a false memory on my part, or Koch's.

    The gentrifiers must miss the Ghost Shadows and the Westies.

    The last Chinese and Irish to make themselves useful, it's time to mobilize MS-13:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Shadows
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westies

    * "Beau" Jimmy Walker: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Walker

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Gary in Gramercy

    Neb was probably referring to the mayor of the Second City. Now Third… for the moment.

  85. @George
    @nebulafox

    The *real* Hizzoner handled this situation very differently in ’68.

    The Mayor was John Lindsay, the last WASP mayor and probably the best looking mayor*.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lindsay#Racial_and_civil_unrest

    If I remember right (Jewish) Mayor Ed Koch claimed Lindsay had the police drop boxes of money in the street to disperse rioters. Maybe a false memory on my part, or Koch's.

    The gentrifiers must miss the Ghost Shadows and the Westies.

    The last Chinese and Irish to make themselves useful, it's time to mobilize MS-13:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Shadows
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westies

    * "Beau" Jimmy Walker: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Walker

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Gary in Gramercy

    I think nebulafox was referring to The Honorable Richard J. Daley, Mayor of Chicago at the time.

  86. It’s long past time for NY’s highest-ranking Karen — Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand — to appeal for calm and demand to see the manager

  87. @Anonymous
    This unrest has really emphasised to me how much white Americans worship blacks, so much so they would rather convince themselves that their country is being burnt down by white ANTIFA members and Russians than admit that it's African-Americans who are robbing them, destroy their property and bashing their brains out.

    I'm not just talking about white leftists either, the American "right" seem as invested in black victimhood as the left do.

    Replies: @Steve Richter, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

    This unrest has really emphasised to me how much white Americans worship blacks, so much so they would rather convince themselves that their country is being burnt down by white ANTIFA members and Russians than admit that it’s African-Americans who are robbing them, destroy their property and bashing their brains out.

    If you imagine blacks have the intelligence, organization, and industry to destroy a 21st-century police precinct house, you are the one who has an inflated view of blacks.

    It has to be whites, or some other race. Antifa has the skill. Do you have any other serious suspects in mind?

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Reg Cæsar

    Blacks are busy emoting, looting, and looking for old or lone white targets to swarm over. George Floyd's riots have really highlighted black swarming capability. The real strategic destruction is wreaked by whites.

    Before these young whites serve their time in newly-federalized-but-kept-the-same Angola prison in Louisiana, Corpse Biden will shoot them in the leg. Inflicting damage that will always survive in the form of muscle or bone degradation or recurring infections in Joe's target area.

    , @Art Deco
    @Reg Cæsar

    If you imagine blacks have the intelligence, organization, and industry to destroy a 21st-century police precinct house, you are the one who has an inflated view of blacks.

    You have a rather inflated sense of the intelligence and organizational skill which goes into arson (among other fallacies you harbor).

  88. @Ray P
    One can always spot a global liberal politico these days by the medieval King's jester stood nearby pulling faces and gesticulating peculiarly. In the past, New York City mayors could do this by themselves.

    Replies: @silviosilver

    It’d be pretty funny if some of them were just affirmative action hires who don’t even know sign language and are just making shit up. That might explain the goofy faces so many of them pull.

    (What’s the bet this turns out to be the case at least once? We’re living in Clown World after all.)

  89. @utu
    @danand

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_George_Floyd
    At 8:32 pm, the fire department arrived at the scene.According to the fire department's report, the police officers gave no clear information regarding Floyd's condition or whereabouts, which delayed their ability to assist the ambulance. Meanwhile, the ambulance carrying Floyd again called for assistance from the fire department, asking them to meet at the corner of 36th Street and Park Avenue, and reporting that Floyd was going into cardiac arrest. Five minutes later, the fire department reached the ambulance. Two fire department medics who boarded the ambulance described Floyd in their report as an "unresponsive, pulseless male".

    Floyd was pronounced dead at 9:25 pm at the Hennepin County Medical Center emergency room, according to the incident report.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    Floyd was pronounced dead at 9:25 pm at the Hennepin County Medical Center emergency room, according to the incident report.

    Where Charles M Schulz was born 97 years ago. Not in the hospital, but in a house in the neighborhood the hospital replaced.

  90. anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    In other news, LBPD are horrible:

  91. @Technite78
    It was idiotic to set the curfew for 11pm... that's at least 2 1/2 hours after sunset. And like clockwork, the looting started in earnest around 8:20pm. Looters played cat and mouse with the NYPD, smashing windows, getting chased around the block, and looting on each lap. I had to call the FDNY after some of the discarded boxes were set on fire by looters with help from a black sedan that apparently rendered some kind of logistical support. The sidewalk outside my building is filled with empty Nike boxes. I guess that PR campaign is really paying dividends.

    Outside my hood, NYPD officers were attacked and one even struck by a hit-and-run driver in the Bronx. De Blasio's non-support of the NYPD is likely to lead to at least a partial stand-down... and if the National Guard isn't called in, things will continue to escalate. No bail for "non-violent" offenses, no support of the NYPD, and a mayor that all but admits to being a communist...

    Tonight the curfew is at 8pm... we'll see if this helps.

    And yeah, I shouldn't be here. I'm a native NYer and only returned to NYC full-time to support my aging parents... and once that situation has been properly addressed I'm out of here for good.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Achmed E. Newman, @SunBakedSuburb

    “The sidewalk outside my building is filled with empty Nike boxes.”

    The detritus of the white-progressive reparations scheme?

  92. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    This unrest has really emphasised to me how much white Americans worship blacks, so much so they would rather convince themselves that their country is being burnt down by white ANTIFA members and Russians than admit that it’s African-Americans who are robbing them, destroy their property and bashing their brains out.
     
    If you imagine blacks have the intelligence, organization, and industry to destroy a 21st-century police precinct house, you are the one who has an inflated view of blacks.

    It has to be whites, or some other race. Antifa has the skill. Do you have any other serious suspects in mind?

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Art Deco

    Blacks are busy emoting, looting, and looking for old or lone white targets to swarm over. George Floyd’s riots have really highlighted black swarming capability. The real strategic destruction is wreaked by whites.

    Before these young whites serve their time in newly-federalized-but-kept-the-same Angola prison in Louisiana, Corpse Biden will shoot them in the leg. Inflicting damage that will always survive in the form of muscle or bone degradation or recurring infections in Joe’s target area.

  93. @the one they call Desanex
    Bill de Blasio = Biased lib LOL

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex

    My comment got trapped in The Dead Zone again.

  94. @Buck Ransom
    @Steve Sailer

    I wonder how many tatted-up, blue-haired Antifa chicks and sullen ghetto girls will be seen later today sporting diaphanous black cocktail frocks they acquired yesterday at the Valentino boutique.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    The market for “sullen ghetto girls” in “diaphanous black cocktail frocks” is surely nil. But in George Floyd’s New Normal beauty standards will finally change. Look forward to it, racist.

  95. @Anon
    I've always thought that sign language interpreters were weirdos. The women seem to be fat, homely variations on prisoner penpal "wives." The guys I really don't get at all, unless they are hearing kids of deaf parents. Otherwise, why the hell would anyone learn sign language?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    SixNineOne, In the Rochester and surrounding area a student can take ASL as their foreign language requirement. So a student who becomes proficient in ASL has a leg up on counseling deaf students, because who wants a third person in the room when you are talking to a school counselor or school pyschologist? So, I know people who are school pyschologists and know ASL. In our Buffalo suburb school district they provide an ASL interpreter to deaf students and pay $65 per hour. So, that’s who learns ASL. See, if you ask a question on iSteve you usually get an answer.

    • Thanks: kaganovitch, PiltdownMan
  96. Steve, for what it is worth, in Rochester a small woman, looks Asian maybe, told some would be looters to stop trying to break into a store front…”People live here.” I won’t describe the looters but they beat her with 2x4s, punched and stomped her to the ground. The video, sickening, is out there to see, but it won”t get any play on MSM. AntiFa my ass. Thugs. We can still use that word,right?

    • Agree: Goatweed
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Buffalo Joe

    It was on the local news. I used to live about a 15 minute walk from there. Area looks like it has gone downhill in the last 25 years.

    , @danand
    @Buffalo Joe


    “...Rochester a small woman...”
     
    Buffalo Joe, perhaps this is the woman?

    https://youtu.be/5tEUmmYDUfA

    https://youtu.be/jLR272Qz4B0



    I should not post this, but here is a clip of George’s romantic acting:

    Warning....GRAPHIC....Do not watch....only for record archiving purposes.



    https://flyheight.com/embed/ed5rkm

    Replies: @ATBOTL

  97. I think Hizzoner should get the picture in picture treatment off in the corner, and Weird Al the main screen so his gesticulations can be seen better.

    I recall an old SNL bit on weekend update with I think Kevin Nealon at the time. The news item was about blind people being offended by how a blind character on a sitcom was being insensitively represented. At the end of Nealon’s reporting, subtitle ‘I thought it was funny’.

  98. @Rob McX
    Remember the "sign language interpreter" at Nelson Mandela's funeral? The guy was just making random movements with his hands. He "interpreted" the speeches of the world's leaders, not even knowing the basic signs such as "thank you" or "Mandela".


    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2013/12/12/1386868345217/Barack-Obama-alongside-si-009.jpg?width=605&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=94f4592d96dc314f46b28fdb06303466

    Replies: @Cortes, @kaganovitch, @silviosilver

    Hah, I forgot all about that. What a classic. I bet he’s not the last we see.

  99. I’m surprised Mayor D. has a white sign-interpreter while that expressive guy who signed at Mandela’s funeral must surely be available for the gig.

  100. Anonymous[231] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu
    @danand

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_George_Floyd
    At 8:32 pm, the fire department arrived at the scene.According to the fire department's report, the police officers gave no clear information regarding Floyd's condition or whereabouts, which delayed their ability to assist the ambulance. Meanwhile, the ambulance carrying Floyd again called for assistance from the fire department, asking them to meet at the corner of 36th Street and Park Avenue, and reporting that Floyd was going into cardiac arrest. Five minutes later, the fire department reached the ambulance. Two fire department medics who boarded the ambulance described Floyd in their report as an "unresponsive, pulseless male".

    Floyd was pronounced dead at 9:25 pm at the Hennepin County Medical Center emergency room, according to the incident report.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    At 8:32 pm, the fire department arrived at the scene.According to the fire department’s report, the police officers gave no clear information regarding Floyd’s condition or whereabouts, which delayed their ability to assist the ambulance. Meanwhile, the ambulance carrying Floyd again called for assistance from the fire department, asking them to meet at the corner of 36th Street and Park Avenue, and reporting that Floyd was going into cardiac arrest. Five minutes later, the fire department reached the ambulance. Two fire department medics who boarded the ambulance described Floyd in their report as an “unresponsive, pulseless male”.

    Why did the ambulance need assistance from the fire department?

    Who called the ambulance and the fire department?

  101. @Morris Applebaum IV
    What the looting and rioting is all about:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/01/bets-robert-johnson-calls-for-14-trillion-of-reparations-for-slavery.html

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Neoconned

    Robert Johnson? We paid that fucker off already. What’s he want now, to be able to play the viola?

  102. @Anonymous
    Maybe in the big picture, the fall of America will be merely a quiet affair?

    Replies: @Tiny Duck, @Ray P, @The Alarmist, @AnotherDad

    Maybe in the big picture, the fall of America will be merely a quiet affair?

    This is the way America ends
    This is the way America ends
    This is the way America ends
    Not with a bang but a whimper.

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
    @The Alarmist

    Wow, Trump's speech from the bunker was not very reassuring!

  103. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Technite78

    Thanks for that personal report, Technite. I'd like to see more of that from different commenters here. Right now, I got nuthin'.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Anonymous

    I lived in a leafy liberal suburb of the Imperial Capital for a number of years. I sold my house for a handsome sum of money and GTFO May 1st, just in time.

    I now live is a small town in Appalachia. Lots of overweight hillbillies, not very many good looking women, very few POCS, but everybody is very friendly.

    The Kroger clerk this morning said there was going to be a protest downtown, and wondered if he should buy a gun. I told him yes.

    Absolutely nothing has happened here. We don’t have the black and antifa raw material and the locals are armed to the teeth.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jim Don Bob


    I now live is a small town in Appalachia. Lots of overweight hillbillies, not very many good looking women,
     
    Careful. Those hillbilly women can not only keep a fellow warm, but they can cook for him, too. Which is more than can be said for far too many city females these days (ask me how I know).

    Looks are important, but so is feeding the Inner Man. And looks do fade, after all.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  104. res says:
    @politically correct
    I know you thrive on attacking political correctness, so I'm not surprised by you questioning why a sign language interpreter is used when closed caption could have been used. However, the same logic would mean that whatever speech/announcement is being given could just as well be given via text - why bother speaking at all? I think the act of personally delivering a message is important to people - that's why it is done. If so, then it is equally important to deliver something comparable for the hearing-impaired. Targeting the latter as politically correct nonsense, but not the former, seems to me to indicate your own deep-seated bias.

    Replies: @res, @Peter D. Bredon, @dimples

    I think the opposite. The sign language interpreter off to the side requires focusing on that thus looking away from the actual speaker whose personal delivery is what matters. Subtitles directly beneath the speaker allow paying attention to both. The sign language interpreter might be necessary for a live in person speech though.

    There is also the issue of the sign language interpreter distracting everyone else from the speaker. One of the interesting trends in our Brave New World is how we inconvenience 99+% of people in an effort to help a tiny fraction. A great example was online classes being cancelled because they were not sufficiently accessible.
    https://news.berkeley.edu/2017/03/01/course-capture/

    I’m kind of curious what happened to lip reading. Which would allow EXACTLY what you are looking for.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @res


    One of the interesting trends in our Brave New World is how we inconvenience 99+% of people in an effort to help a tiny fraction.
     
    Excellent point res.

    This is one of the things that really popped for me pretty early in life. Efficiency, reasonableness, practicality, the normal work to make civilization work--and ofttimes people's rights--taking a back seat to catering to some dysfunctional, disabled or minority corner case.

    Pure minoritarianism and a very whiny, feminine--"but what about the poor xyz"--attitude.

    Very unpleasant.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @res

    That's a great point, Res, that I've thought of many times. It's one thing if private businesses or individuals do things out of the goodness of their own hearts, even if it's all a waste of time. However, when every single place is required to install a big wheelchair ramp that takes up 1/4 of their property, it's just another inefficiency (in AD's parlance) of the American economy. Hey, you got a handicapped guy who's a regular customer? You can find a way to help him out.

    I shit you not, I've seen a small parking lot out in the desert of California with 2 handicapped spaces out of 8 or so, that was the trailhead to a hiking trail that went 2 miles before you even got to the cool terrain. That terrain was full of 1 ft. boulders and cactus that were sticking the hell out of us.

    Replies: @David

    , @Lagertha
    @res

    well, the people who lord over us, want us to kill each other off - very simple. They want world population to go down, and they are using us all, to do what they don't want to do themselves - or be on record (hint: they don't have an army): exterminate the excess population...or, for them, get rid of most of the people they consider "useless eaters."

  105. It’s quite annoying what this is doing to the price/availability of guns and ammo.

    • Agree: Dtbb
  106. @Altai
    Meanwhile in DC, the wealthy Desi-Antifa alliance seems fertile.

    https://twitter.com/_Crypto_Maniac_/status/1267665396338958338

    Apparently a Desi capitalist opened his door to the protestors to shelter from police.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZezWMEUMAMHNs0.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZezWMNUEAUf_kM.jpg


    If people like us aren't going to open the door, then who the fuck will.
    -Rahul Dubey, 44 year old first generation Indian-American who owns a healthcare innovations company.
     
    I also find it interesting that he is called 'first generation'. Would somebody of any North West European background be called 'first generation'. I could see Greek or any Eastern European, maybe even Italian. Is that a micro-aggression of othering?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jane Plain, @Bragadocious, @Bill Jones, @Alden

    ” first generation Indian-American ”

    Is a threat: the implication is that there will be a second,third….

  107. @Achmed E. Newman

    ... who looks suspiciously like Weird Al Yankovic...
     
    He looks more like the Unix Sys-Admin. to me.

    I don't watch the TV so I haven't noticed the trend away from closed-captioning. It seems much less distracting and probably quicker for deaf people at that.

    I wonder if that sign-language guy was actually saying something totally different from what the Commie Mayor was saying, perhaps "Listen, we don't (OK, probably not "Listen") have the situational awareness that the hearing do. Stay the hell inside! Make sure you've got security cameras. This moron I work for is full of it. You don't want anything to do with these people out there expressing their pain downtown. Don't tell any hearing people what I'm saying. I need this job."

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Jane Plain, @Cortes, @Bardon Kaldian, @GMR, @PiltdownMan

    I wonder if that sign-language guy was actually saying something totally different from what the Commie Mayor was saying, perhaps “Listen, we don’t (OK, probably not “Listen”) have the situational awareness that the hearing do. Stay the hell inside! Make sure you’ve got security cameras. This moron I work for is full of it. You don’t want anything to do with these people out there expressing their pain downtown. Don’t tell any hearing people what I’m saying. I need this job.”

  108. Here’s why NYC can’t have nice things anymore.

    https://nypost.com/2020/06/02/feds-file-appeal-to-keep-bomb-throwing-nyc-lawyers-behind-bars/

    Short version.

    Bomb-throwing lawyers caught. Judge wants to release on bail. Feds say, “no no, we want to prosecute, hold on to them.” NYC Judge says “F you” and releases them. No name given for the judge. Hmmm.

    Side note: part of the problem in NYC is that woke New York passed “bail reform,” which means the vast majority of people “arrested” are let go almost immediately, and head right back to the streets to riot some more.

    DeBlasio is a sick joke.

    PS – Just found the judge’s name. Steven Gold. Lol!

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @peterike

    Right. BUT, the judge set bail at $250k, which means someone had to come up with the non-refundable 10% down of $25k on the $250k bond, so it's not nothing.

    , @Ancient Briton
    @peterike

    That's gold, Jerry. Gold! [Life imitates Seinfeld].

    , @Mr. Anon
    @peterike

    The Molotov cocktail thrower is a Pakistani who was wearing one of those black-and-white patterend scarves so popular among pro-Palestinian activists.

  109. @Anonymous
    Maybe in the big picture, the fall of America will be merely a quiet affair?

    Replies: @Tiny Duck, @Ray P, @The Alarmist, @AnotherDad

    Maybe in the big picture, the fall of America will be merely a quiet affair?

    Could be.

    But i think these Democrat riots are actually making the ultimate success of their soft coup less likely.

    Plenty of ordinary people–white and non-white–are seeing this Democrat riot, coming on top of these Democrat shutdowns/internments and thinking “i don’t want any part of this”.

    I expect a lot of whites–and even non-whites–will be bailing out of Democrat controlled states and towns. I think they’ll be a lot more people heading to “the country”. Cheap communications, the Internet make this prospect really a lot more palatable to a lot more folks than it once was. A lot of white collar work can be done remotely. And even inter-personal professional workers–doctor, lawyer–can have a very nice life setup in small/medium city in a white state and living in an exurb or the country.

    And i expect a *lot* of people will be arming up. I’ve generally been content with shotguns for home defense and a bit of sport. But i’m thinking now, i really would like to be a position to dissuade an entire Antifa mob from attempting to antifa my neighborhood. I very much doubt i’m alone in those thoughts.

    I think my “separate nations” meme has made a lot progress–no breakthrough but in terms of thoughts that provide a foundation for it– in the last week.

    Civilized people who value the culture and traditions of Western Christian civilization–“the West”–are realizing civilization and the Democrats’ minoritarianism are fundamentally incompatible.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @AnotherDad

    POTUS stated he wanted to protect the Second Amendment; how about lifting the Assault Rifle Import ban implemented by the Dead GHWB so we can buy foreign semi-automatic rifles?

    "And i expect a *lot* of people will be arming up. I’ve generally been content with shotguns for home defense and a bit of sport. But i’m thinking now, i really would like to be a position to dissuade an entire Antifa mob from attempting to antifa my neighborhood. I very much doubt i’m alone in those thoughts."

    American industry can sure use "shot in the arm" and years ago I read US industry at that time could make 5,000 AR-15 lower receiver forgings a week.

    If you have a little mechanical aptitude you save plenty of money by purchasing an AR-15 lower receiver and assembling the rest of the parts on it. Remember, the 11% Conservation tax applies if you purchase a top receiver with your lower from an FFL.

    http://www.thenewrifleman.com/how-to-build-a-lower-receiver/

    Here is an AR-15 buyer's guide if you want a warranty with your gun.

    http://www.thenewrifleman.com/the-ar15-buyers-guide-simple-steps-for-buying-a-great-rifle/

    , @anon
    @AnotherDad

    The key to any white migration out of Seattle to Mayberry will be jobs and quality of schools.

    The problem I see with separation is...separation.
    Eastern Washington will want to separate from Western Washington. Some counties or parts of counties in Western Washington will not want to join Seattle. Key resources such as energy, good ports, existing military bases, will be up for dispute.
    Seattle will never accept a zone of free white people anywhere on earth, much less right across the mountains.
    The minority demand for reparations will not stop with separation. The moral crusade never ends.
    The flood of immigrants that will come from all over the world to Seattle will spill over the mountains to Eastern Washington. Border security efforts by Easterners to stop this will be a constant declaration of war to Seattleites.
    The disputes between Eastern and Western Washington will pale in comparison to the disputes in the southern states and the polyglot eastern states as they fight over who gets what.
    Meanwhile many old school Americans such as myself will insist that the USA is our country, fairly won, and not for sale to street thugs.

  110. @Jane Plain
    @Altai

    Do you remember Larry Auster? When Obama was re-elected, he coined a phrase: "It's their country now."

    https://twitter.com/AdriannaHopkins/status/1267785458349531136?s=20

    Replies: @Charon

    Unlike them, we’re less likely to believe MSM/TwitterTales which support the Narrative.. They are more likely to believe them. Probably not exaggerating to say that’s the only time they’ll believe.

  111. @res
    @politically correct

    I think the opposite. The sign language interpreter off to the side requires focusing on that thus looking away from the actual speaker whose personal delivery is what matters. Subtitles directly beneath the speaker allow paying attention to both. The sign language interpreter might be necessary for a live in person speech though.

    There is also the issue of the sign language interpreter distracting everyone else from the speaker. One of the interesting trends in our Brave New World is how we inconvenience 99+% of people in an effort to help a tiny fraction. A great example was online classes being cancelled because they were not sufficiently accessible.
    https://news.berkeley.edu/2017/03/01/course-capture/

    I'm kind of curious what happened to lip reading. Which would allow EXACTLY what you are looking for.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Achmed E. Newman, @Lagertha

    One of the interesting trends in our Brave New World is how we inconvenience 99+% of people in an effort to help a tiny fraction.

    Excellent point res.

    This is one of the things that really popped for me pretty early in life. Efficiency, reasonableness, practicality, the normal work to make civilization work–and ofttimes people’s rights–taking a back seat to catering to some dysfunctional, disabled or minority corner case.

    Pure minoritarianism and a very whiny, feminine–“but what about the poor xyz”–attitude.

    Very unpleasant.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @AnotherDad


    Pure minoritarianism and a very whiny, feminine–“but what about the poor xyz”–attitude.

    Very unpleasant.
     
    “Whiny, unpleasant” isn’t going to cut it. Concern for the poor is a moral high ground frame. You need to come up with one that displaces theirs.

    Make a claim from justice, fairness, morality.
  112. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    This unrest has really emphasised to me how much white Americans worship blacks, so much so they would rather convince themselves that their country is being burnt down by white ANTIFA members and Russians than admit that it’s African-Americans who are robbing them, destroy their property and bashing their brains out.
     
    If you imagine blacks have the intelligence, organization, and industry to destroy a 21st-century police precinct house, you are the one who has an inflated view of blacks.

    It has to be whites, or some other race. Antifa has the skill. Do you have any other serious suspects in mind?

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Art Deco

    If you imagine blacks have the intelligence, organization, and industry to destroy a 21st-century police precinct house, you are the one who has an inflated view of blacks.

    You have a rather inflated sense of the intelligence and organizational skill which goes into arson (among other fallacies you harbor).

  113. @Buffalo Joe
    Steve, for what it is worth, in Rochester a small woman, looks Asian maybe, told some would be looters to stop trying to break into a store front..."People live here." I won't describe the looters but they beat her with 2x4s, punched and stomped her to the ground. The video, sickening, is out there to see, but it won''t get any play on MSM. AntiFa my ass. Thugs. We can still use that word,right?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @danand

    It was on the local news. I used to live about a 15 minute walk from there. Area looks like it has gone downhill in the last 25 years.

  114. @Altai
    Meanwhile in DC, the wealthy Desi-Antifa alliance seems fertile.

    https://twitter.com/_Crypto_Maniac_/status/1267665396338958338

    Apparently a Desi capitalist opened his door to the protestors to shelter from police.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZezWMEUMAMHNs0.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZezWMNUEAUf_kM.jpg


    If people like us aren't going to open the door, then who the fuck will.
    -Rahul Dubey, 44 year old first generation Indian-American who owns a healthcare innovations company.
     
    I also find it interesting that he is called 'first generation'. Would somebody of any North West European background be called 'first generation'. I could see Greek or any Eastern European, maybe even Italian. Is that a micro-aggression of othering?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jane Plain, @Bragadocious, @Bill Jones, @Alden

    Healthcare Innovations translation, Medicare Medicaid and health insurance fraud

  115. @Steve Sailer
    @Technite78

    Beverly Hills' curfew today starts at 1 pm in the afternoon.

    I don't think Beverly Hills has ever been seriously ransacked before. How bad did it get this time? I was mostly paying attention to next door West Hollywood.

    Beverly Hills has its own police force, while West Hollywood used the LA county sheriffs.

    Replies: @Anon, @HammerJack, @Hypnotoad666, @Buck Ransom, @Alden, @hhsiii

    I’m near enough to hear the sirens and helicopters in BH. Had a dr appointment there Monday. They called about 9 am to say they closed for the day. The office is right on Wilshire with a pharmacy on the first floor fronting the sidewalk.

    It’s really a good thing UCLA and other colleges are closed down. They’ve all got militant black organizations.

  116. @Buffalo Joe
    Steve, for what it is worth, in Rochester a small woman, looks Asian maybe, told some would be looters to stop trying to break into a store front..."People live here." I won't describe the looters but they beat her with 2x4s, punched and stomped her to the ground. The video, sickening, is out there to see, but it won''t get any play on MSM. AntiFa my ass. Thugs. We can still use that word,right?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @danand

    “…Rochester a small woman…”

    Buffalo Joe, perhaps this is the woman?

    I should not post this, but here is a clip of George’s romantic acting:

    Warning….GRAPHIC….Do not watch….only for record archiving purposes.

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
    @danand

    There were at least three white male cowards just watching this and doing nothing. One of them was holding a two by four. White men need to start calling out these kinds of cowards. There is never an excuse not to fight when blacks are attacking whites. It doesn't matter what the odds. If we can't do that, we don't deserve to survive.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  117. @YetAnotherAnon
    People in previous threads were suggesting that the first ('official') Floyd autopsy had been memory-holed.

    It can be downloaded from here.

    https://www.tmz.com/2020/06/01/george-floyd-cause-of-death-heart-attack-fentanyl/

    Said he had a heart attack "cardiac arrest complicating (? does that mean related to?) law enforcment subdual (is that the term for the state of having been subdued?) , restraint, and neck compression.

    Other significant conditions : Arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease; fentanyl intoxication; recent amphetamine use.

    I'm surprised there weren't some figures here as to the degree of intoxication.

    Manner of death - Homicide (followed by a disclaimer re no legal determination of culpability). I think we're all agreed he wouldn't have died that day if he hadn't been arrested.

    Replies: @Redman, @BenKenobi, @danand, @Buck Ransom, @ThreeCranes

    He’s got a fleck of white foam in the corner of his mouth at the end there. Looks like a drug OD to me.

    From Healthline: “Overdose causes foaming at the mouth because organs like the heart and lungs can’t function properly. [“I Can’t breathe”] Slowed heart or lung movements causes fluids to gather in the lungs, which can mix with carbon dioxide and come out of the mouth like a foam.

    Drug overdoses can be fatal. The drug narcan is an antidote to opiate overdose. There is no treatment for stimulant overdose.”

    According to the autopsy, he had both in his system, speed and an opiate.

    On Fentanyl, “High risk for addiction and dependence. Can cause respiratory distress and death when taken in high doses or when combined with other substances, especially alcohol.
    my bold, from drugfree

  118. Kind of off-topic. but this is from a newsletter for the Upper West Side of Manhattan. It completely exemplifies the mental health issues of some on the far left.

    The city is burning, people are looting and this clown posts a story about a white woman calling the cops on a black woman. No mention of if he got the white woman’s side of the story.

    Meanwhile, no other stories on the site mention the riots and the stores being destroyed in the neighborhood.

    The comments are pretty crazy, too, an incoherent mishmash of political correctness.

    https://ilovetheupperwestside.com/svitlana-flom-calls-police-on-black-woman-upper-west-side-nyc/

  119. @Not My Economy
    A crazy game is developing between the blue state/city governments (e.g. DeBlasio) and the police.

    The mayor needs the physical authority of the cops cause otherwise the rioters will bash in his head with a 2x4. But the cops need the political authority of the mayor because otherwise their pensions are toast. So when the mayor says to the cops: you aren't allowed to protect yourselves either, you have to just let them throw shit at you... what happens? How long are the cops going to keep letting themselves get run over, shot, burned, etc etc in hopes that this passes over and they get back on track to The Pension?

    Replies: @Alden, @leterip, @leterip

    Don’t forget that all their injuries and time off to recover are covered by the city’s Workmen’s Compensation insurance carrier. So are projected life long earnings of police killed on duty.

    And WComp insurance companies raise their rates when claims are made higher than any other type of insurance.

  120. Anonymous[231] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    @res


    One of the interesting trends in our Brave New World is how we inconvenience 99+% of people in an effort to help a tiny fraction.
     
    Excellent point res.

    This is one of the things that really popped for me pretty early in life. Efficiency, reasonableness, practicality, the normal work to make civilization work--and ofttimes people's rights--taking a back seat to catering to some dysfunctional, disabled or minority corner case.

    Pure minoritarianism and a very whiny, feminine--"but what about the poor xyz"--attitude.

    Very unpleasant.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Pure minoritarianism and a very whiny, feminine–“but what about the poor xyz”–attitude.

    Very unpleasant.

    “Whiny, unpleasant” isn’t going to cut it. Concern for the poor is a moral high ground frame. You need to come up with one that displaces theirs.

    Make a claim from justice, fairness, morality.

  121. @Anon
    Southside Chicago alderman said 95% of the businesses in his ward have been looted. He says he spent two years trying to attract businesses there and they've nearly all been trashed. Various aldermen are jumping all over the mayor. Over 2,000 people have been arrested in Chicago over the weekend.

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/6/1/21276963/chicago-protests-looting-george-floyd-live-blog

    By the way I'm amazed at how many people are being fed by the city in that article. None of the damn people even seem to be able to use an EBT card to feed themselves. They can't even cook. They have to have food delivered.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory

    The school systems have taken over feeding kids for the most part. In 2018, schools served 5 billion lunches. 3/4 of those were free or at reduced cost.

    Our local county school district has gotten funds to give every kid in the system a free lunch and breakfast. No matter if they are dirt poor or living in the lap of luxury. It is part of the Community Eligibility Provision (CEP) program. Another of Obama’s programs Trump has left in place.
    After the schools shut down for the China Virus, the school buses would run every day dropping off food to any student standing at the end of their driveway.

    In past years, I have seen various school districts and cities providing backpacks of food to students to feed them over the weekend.

    https://fns-prod.azureedge.net/sites/default/files/cn/CEPfactsheet.pdf

  122. @peterike
    Here's why NYC can't have nice things anymore.

    https://nypost.com/2020/06/02/feds-file-appeal-to-keep-bomb-throwing-nyc-lawyers-behind-bars/

    Short version.

    Bomb-throwing lawyers caught. Judge wants to release on bail. Feds say, "no no, we want to prosecute, hold on to them." NYC Judge says "F you" and releases them. No name given for the judge. Hmmm.

    Side note: part of the problem in NYC is that woke New York passed "bail reform," which means the vast majority of people "arrested" are let go almost immediately, and head right back to the streets to riot some more.

    DeBlasio is a sick joke.

    PS - Just found the judge's name. Steven Gold. Lol!

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Ancient Briton, @Mr. Anon

    Right. BUT, the judge set bail at $250k, which means someone had to come up with the non-refundable 10% down of $25k on the $250k bond, so it’s not nothing.

  123. @Andrew M
    Semi-important people seem to believe that having a sign-language interpreter will make them look more important. It’s the sign of a politician with status anxiety.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @More R1b, Less H1B

    It’s also an ironclad sinecure that Deaf activists can sniff out like a bloodhound (perhaps one of those when-the-other-senses-diminish phenomena.) Find something funded by the public purse without an interpreter present? Scream bloody murder about ableism and next time around you or a friend will pocket a few hundred bucks for an hour’s work. The Bumblefuck University 97th Annual Conference on Fungal Infections of Citronella Grass and its ten hearing attendees will be none the wiser that the ‘interpreter’ has two years of college ASL and is functionally incoherent.

    I predict that there’s going to be a skirmish on woke fronts soon, given the advances YouTube and other tech companies have made in real-time closed captioning. A room full of geeks somewhere in San Francisco has no idea they’re about to endanger the bread and butter of one corner of the Diversity, Inclusion, Equity patronage machine. Those guys are fucked; there are going to be sign language interpreters tagging along to Mars.

  124. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ray P
    @Anonymous

    Arranged by the Quiet American? Will it be like the promised Quiet Revolution of Conservative British prime minister Edward Heath (1970-1974)?

    Mr Heath wanted to 'permanently change the outlook of the British people,' he said grandly, for 'to cling desperately to the present will be to find ourselves embracing only the past.' ... 'If we are to achieve this task, we will have to embark on a change so radical, a revolution so quiet and yet so total, that it will go far beyond the programme for a parliament to which we are committed and on which we have already embarked: far beyond this decade and way into the nineteen eighties.'

    --Dominic Sandbrook, State of Emergency.
     

    What next? Quiet rape? Quiet murder? Quiet genocide?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Quiet Revolution of Conservative British prime minister Edward Heath (1970-1974)?

    Ted Heath, a confirmed bachelor, liked to visit the Isle of Jersey off the French coast, home of the infamous the Haut de la Garenne orphanage.

    One man alleged he was raped repeatedly by Krichefski and another man – whom he knew only as “the posh bastard” – in the early 1960s at Haut de la Garenne. He said the senator told him: “Be a good boy and do as you are told otherwise you will never go home.”

    BBC television star and bisexual rapist Jimmy Savile was another frequent visitor at Haut de la Garenne. No serious enquiry took place during the lifetime of either man.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/03/haut-de-la-garenne-house-of-horror-investigation-brought-jersey-abuse-to-light

    • Thanks: Cortes
  125. I’m sure rioters of the past had their product preferences, but have we moved into a new era of the upscale looter? Three Apple stores were sacked, along with other luxury brands.

    Are the looted items for personal use primarily? Or should Tim Cook have his minions looking on eBay. Is the price of luxury goods online going down? Do buyers of illicitly obtained merchandise need to watch out for counterfeiters who only pretend to be looters?

    In its waning years, our civilization enters a new era. Inquiring minds want to know.

    • Replies: @peterike
    @Anon7


    I’m sure rioters of the past had their product preferences, but have we moved into a new era of the upscale looter?
     
    Indeed. We're a long way from Jean Valjean going to prison for stealing a loaf of bread to feed his starving children. Yet the moral equation is exactly the same for today's gentry Left.
  126. @Anonymous
    I Loot NY

    Replies: @Cortes

    Excellent!

    Hope the merchandise makes you rich.

  127. I think Trump should loudly declare that he’ll gladly allow NYC and other blue cities to burn themselves down, but that they will get zero Federal dollars to rebuild. If they want to turn themselves into hellholes, while red states remain decent, who cares.

  128. @Anonymous
    White Americans love to do the gun-toting, "tough guy" act but really are incredible spineless people totally lacking in substance. They also lack the gumption to admit the racial nature of these riots and would rather blame ANTIFA, Russians, ChiComs, etc. Anything but admit the racial animus that exists in their country.

    I'm British (people white Americans have no qualms about hating), and frankly I hope Boris Johnson ditches the dying nation that is America and signs up with China's Belt and Road Initiative, the US is finished.

    Replies: @Mr. Blank

    One of the things that you Brits seem to forget is that America is a VERY big country. The reason the “gun-toting tough guys” are fairly clueless about the rioters, and the reason they never end up clashing with the crazy rioters, is because they live a LOOOONGGG way away from where the riots are actually happening.

    I live out in the sticks. Life here remains completely normal. You’d never know out here that the cities are ablaze.

    When people get fed up with some place in America, they move away. Often a long, long, long way away. It affects the culture and politics in ways that Europeans rarely seem to appreciate.

  129. @res
    @politically correct

    I think the opposite. The sign language interpreter off to the side requires focusing on that thus looking away from the actual speaker whose personal delivery is what matters. Subtitles directly beneath the speaker allow paying attention to both. The sign language interpreter might be necessary for a live in person speech though.

    There is also the issue of the sign language interpreter distracting everyone else from the speaker. One of the interesting trends in our Brave New World is how we inconvenience 99+% of people in an effort to help a tiny fraction. A great example was online classes being cancelled because they were not sufficiently accessible.
    https://news.berkeley.edu/2017/03/01/course-capture/

    I'm kind of curious what happened to lip reading. Which would allow EXACTLY what you are looking for.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Achmed E. Newman, @Lagertha

    That’s a great point, Res, that I’ve thought of many times. It’s one thing if private businesses or individuals do things out of the goodness of their own hearts, even if it’s all a waste of time. However, when every single place is required to install a big wheelchair ramp that takes up 1/4 of their property, it’s just another inefficiency (in AD’s parlance) of the American economy. Hey, you got a handicapped guy who’s a regular customer? You can find a way to help him out.

    I shit you not, I’ve seen a small parking lot out in the desert of California with 2 handicapped spaces out of 8 or so, that was the trailhead to a hiking trail that went 2 miles before you even got to the cool terrain. That terrain was full of 1 ft. boulders and cactus that were sticking the hell out of us.

    • Replies: @David
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The inefficiency is part of the objective. In NYC under Giuliani, it was decided that outfitting every bus to load and carry wheelchairs was more expensive that establishing a free, on-demand limo service for people in wheelchairs. The cripple could summon his ride and be taken directly to his destination.

    But that was discriminatory, so all the buses were eventually equipped with pneumatic suspensions that could lower the bus to the level of the curb. Then a platform was extended to the sidewalk, which would then lift up the infirmed and draw him into the bus, where a special area without seats was set aside with anchors on the floor to grip the wheelchair. The driver had to operate all this, so had to leave the bus for two or three minutes with each loading and unloading, while all the ablists looked on with resentment.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  130. @Steve Sailer
    @Technite78

    Beverly Hills' curfew today starts at 1 pm in the afternoon.

    I don't think Beverly Hills has ever been seriously ransacked before. How bad did it get this time? I was mostly paying attention to next door West Hollywood.

    Beverly Hills has its own police force, while West Hollywood used the LA county sheriffs.

    Replies: @Anon, @HammerJack, @Hypnotoad666, @Buck Ransom, @Alden, @hhsiii

    In NY, Cuomo made a big point of saying the looters are looting their own neighborhoods in the Bronx where we are trying to help them. Who you mean we, Kemosabe. And tanks for suggesting looting the Upper East Side makes more sense.

    From what I hear most of the carriage trade places boarded up fast. Not too different than your average PR Day parade not too long ago.

    They got the smoke shop next to my favorite wine store and craft beer joints on 60th and 2nd. But left the liquor places alone. Guess they don’t care for a succulent dry-hopped IPA. My friend the bartender is a sweet ex punk rocker from Jacksonville, looks somewhat like a new wave Cletus, so they likely thought he was packing.

  131. Re: the sign guy. Apparently (I can’t find the news bulletin) the Washington DC hearing-impaired Starbucks was hit pretty hard. All the workers there know sign language. It could be a big deal if you’re deaf because think about writing down or pointing to grande almond milk 2 pump no-foam cinnamon dulce latte misto

  132. @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous


    Maybe in the big picture, the fall of America will be merely a quiet affair?
     
    Could be.

    But i think these Democrat riots are actually making the ultimate success of their soft coup less likely.

    Plenty of ordinary people--white and non-white--are seeing this Democrat riot, coming on top of these Democrat shutdowns/internments and thinking "i don't want any part of this".

    I expect a lot of whites--and even non-whites--will be bailing out of Democrat controlled states and towns. I think they'll be a lot more people heading to "the country". Cheap communications, the Internet make this prospect really a lot more palatable to a lot more folks than it once was. A lot of white collar work can be done remotely. And even inter-personal professional workers--doctor, lawyer--can have a very nice life setup in small/medium city in a white state and living in an exurb or the country.

    And i expect a *lot* of people will be arming up. I've generally been content with shotguns for home defense and a bit of sport. But i'm thinking now, i really would like to be a position to dissuade an entire Antifa mob from attempting to antifa my neighborhood. I very much doubt i'm alone in those thoughts.

    I think my "separate nations" meme has made a lot progress--no breakthrough but in terms of thoughts that provide a foundation for it-- in the last week.

    Civilized people who value the culture and traditions of Western Christian civilization--"the West"--are realizing civilization and the Democrats' minoritarianism are fundamentally incompatible.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @anon

    POTUS stated he wanted to protect the Second Amendment; how about lifting the Assault Rifle Import ban implemented by the Dead GHWB so we can buy foreign semi-automatic rifles?

    “And i expect a *lot* of people will be arming up. I’ve generally been content with shotguns for home defense and a bit of sport. But i’m thinking now, i really would like to be a position to dissuade an entire Antifa mob from attempting to antifa my neighborhood. I very much doubt i’m alone in those thoughts.”

    American industry can sure use “shot in the arm” and years ago I read US industry at that time could make 5,000 AR-15 lower receiver forgings a week.

    If you have a little mechanical aptitude you save plenty of money by purchasing an AR-15 lower receiver and assembling the rest of the parts on it. Remember, the 11% Conservation tax applies if you purchase a top receiver with your lower from an FFL.

    http://www.thenewrifleman.com/how-to-build-a-lower-receiver/

    Here is an AR-15 buyer’s guide if you want a warranty with your gun.

    http://www.thenewrifleman.com/the-ar15-buyers-guide-simple-steps-for-buying-a-great-rifle/

  133. GMR says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    ... who looks suspiciously like Weird Al Yankovic...
     
    He looks more like the Unix Sys-Admin. to me.

    I don't watch the TV so I haven't noticed the trend away from closed-captioning. It seems much less distracting and probably quicker for deaf people at that.

    I wonder if that sign-language guy was actually saying something totally different from what the Commie Mayor was saying, perhaps "Listen, we don't (OK, probably not "Listen") have the situational awareness that the hearing do. Stay the hell inside! Make sure you've got security cameras. This moron I work for is full of it. You don't want anything to do with these people out there expressing their pain downtown. Don't tell any hearing people what I'm saying. I need this job."

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Jane Plain, @Cortes, @Bardon Kaldian, @GMR, @PiltdownMan

    I don’t know if the sign language guy is saying something different. But once I read about some event that had a translator because the speaker was German or Japanese or whatever. So the interpreter said something to the effect of, “Now he’s telling a joke, but there really is no way to translate it effectively while I’m doing this, so just laugh now for a few seconds.”

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @GMR

    GMR, I didn't seriously think the guy could get away with it, as much as it would have been pretty cool. I know a Chinese lady who used to do translating for foreigners in China on business trips. Besides having good English skills (these were people from the Middle East, so using their own language was out of the question), the customers had to have some trust in her. Otherwise, translators would be prone to some mistranslations on pricing with the difference going to the middle man (the translator).

    , @ScarletNumber
    @GMR

    In the version of the anecdote I heard, the speaker was American speaking English in Japan. Apparently Japan doesn't have the tradition of starting business speeches with humorous anecdotes like America does.

  134. @politically correct
    I know you thrive on attacking political correctness, so I'm not surprised by you questioning why a sign language interpreter is used when closed caption could have been used. However, the same logic would mean that whatever speech/announcement is being given could just as well be given via text - why bother speaking at all? I think the act of personally delivering a message is important to people - that's why it is done. If so, then it is equally important to deliver something comparable for the hearing-impaired. Targeting the latter as politically correct nonsense, but not the former, seems to me to indicate your own deep-seated bias.

    Replies: @res, @Peter D. Bredon, @dimples

    Yeah, that’s why those classy European movies have an interpreter in the corner.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @Peter D. Bredon

    After a busy day Stalin and the boys liked to wind down by watching the latest John Wayne western. They used to have fun with the hapless interpreter who basically just told them what they could see themselves:

    “Now the goodie is pushing through the swing doors to the saloon.” Like that.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  135. @The Alarmist
    @Anonymous


    Maybe in the big picture, the fall of America will be merely a quiet affair?
     
    This is the way America ends
    This is the way America ends
    This is the way America ends
    Not with a bang but a whimper.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPeHO1r8paU

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

    Wow, Trump’s speech from the bunker was not very reassuring!

    • LOL: The Alarmist
  136. @PiltdownMan
    Public expression on the streets by certain citizens of New York City has something of a Jekyll and Hyde quality to it. In that sense, they are a bit like a certain member of the mayor's family.

    https://i.imgur.com/JieFRsw.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/6hH9EtD.jpg

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Altai, @Hypnotoad666, @The Wild Geese Howard

    She actually looks like a fairly attractive, pleasant young lady in the picture on the right.

  137. @peterike
    Here's why NYC can't have nice things anymore.

    https://nypost.com/2020/06/02/feds-file-appeal-to-keep-bomb-throwing-nyc-lawyers-behind-bars/

    Short version.

    Bomb-throwing lawyers caught. Judge wants to release on bail. Feds say, "no no, we want to prosecute, hold on to them." NYC Judge says "F you" and releases them. No name given for the judge. Hmmm.

    Side note: part of the problem in NYC is that woke New York passed "bail reform," which means the vast majority of people "arrested" are let go almost immediately, and head right back to the streets to riot some more.

    DeBlasio is a sick joke.

    PS - Just found the judge's name. Steven Gold. Lol!

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Ancient Briton, @Mr. Anon

    That’s gold, Jerry. Gold! [Life imitates Seinfeld].

  138. @Buck Ransom
    @YetAnotherAnon

    This will be one of the few, very rare U.S. deaths of Spring 2020 not attributed to
    Covid-19 on the death certificate.

    Replies: @Che Blutarsky

    The covid shutdown killed him, though. Lost his job, started hitting the drugs again, got restrained in a terrible position when passing out from Fentanyl, died. No covid shutdown, and this doesn’t happen.

    The DNC riots probably still happen, though, with something else triggering it, as this thing has the look of the Tet Offensive.

  139. Thank god it was just a quiet riot. Hopefully the mayors daughter can improve her mental health.

  140. anon[378] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous


    Maybe in the big picture, the fall of America will be merely a quiet affair?
     
    Could be.

    But i think these Democrat riots are actually making the ultimate success of their soft coup less likely.

    Plenty of ordinary people--white and non-white--are seeing this Democrat riot, coming on top of these Democrat shutdowns/internments and thinking "i don't want any part of this".

    I expect a lot of whites--and even non-whites--will be bailing out of Democrat controlled states and towns. I think they'll be a lot more people heading to "the country". Cheap communications, the Internet make this prospect really a lot more palatable to a lot more folks than it once was. A lot of white collar work can be done remotely. And even inter-personal professional workers--doctor, lawyer--can have a very nice life setup in small/medium city in a white state and living in an exurb or the country.

    And i expect a *lot* of people will be arming up. I've generally been content with shotguns for home defense and a bit of sport. But i'm thinking now, i really would like to be a position to dissuade an entire Antifa mob from attempting to antifa my neighborhood. I very much doubt i'm alone in those thoughts.

    I think my "separate nations" meme has made a lot progress--no breakthrough but in terms of thoughts that provide a foundation for it-- in the last week.

    Civilized people who value the culture and traditions of Western Christian civilization--"the West"--are realizing civilization and the Democrats' minoritarianism are fundamentally incompatible.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @anon

    The key to any white migration out of Seattle to Mayberry will be jobs and quality of schools.

    The problem I see with separation is…separation.
    Eastern Washington will want to separate from Western Washington. Some counties or parts of counties in Western Washington will not want to join Seattle. Key resources such as energy, good ports, existing military bases, will be up for dispute.
    Seattle will never accept a zone of free white people anywhere on earth, much less right across the mountains.
    The minority demand for reparations will not stop with separation. The moral crusade never ends.
    The flood of immigrants that will come from all over the world to Seattle will spill over the mountains to Eastern Washington. Border security efforts by Easterners to stop this will be a constant declaration of war to Seattleites.
    The disputes between Eastern and Western Washington will pale in comparison to the disputes in the southern states and the polyglot eastern states as they fight over who gets what.
    Meanwhile many old school Americans such as myself will insist that the USA is our country, fairly won, and not for sale to street thugs.

  141. De Blaaahhhsio is so over. The rich New Yorkers are gonna vote him out. His entire life’s career is over. He messed with the wrong rich people!

    • Replies: @VinnyVette
    @Lagertha

    In theory you're correct, but there's a caveat... Ideology trumps common sense!

  142. @YetAnotherAnon
    Bach to Minneapolis and "Assault On Precinct 13", how many instances are there of police abandoning a "precinct" (or police station as we call them over here) to be burned and looted?

    Is the Minnesota 3rd Precinct the first, or does this happen a lot?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    I was just thinking about this, I was going to say I’ve never heard of this when I remembered Sweden, where it’s normal. In the US and a few other countries it’s probably never happened. The closest common event might be prison takeovers, which, looking at Attica or the English and Brazilian ones, are very different anyway because the prisoners have huge advantages and order is restored pretty quickly. Simply abandoning a police post is new, delighted to be corrected.

  143. @res
    @politically correct

    I think the opposite. The sign language interpreter off to the side requires focusing on that thus looking away from the actual speaker whose personal delivery is what matters. Subtitles directly beneath the speaker allow paying attention to both. The sign language interpreter might be necessary for a live in person speech though.

    There is also the issue of the sign language interpreter distracting everyone else from the speaker. One of the interesting trends in our Brave New World is how we inconvenience 99+% of people in an effort to help a tiny fraction. A great example was online classes being cancelled because they were not sufficiently accessible.
    https://news.berkeley.edu/2017/03/01/course-capture/

    I'm kind of curious what happened to lip reading. Which would allow EXACTLY what you are looking for.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Achmed E. Newman, @Lagertha

    well, the people who lord over us, want us to kill each other off – very simple. They want world population to go down, and they are using us all, to do what they don’t want to do themselves – or be on record (hint: they don’t have an army): exterminate the excess population…or, for them, get rid of most of the people they consider “useless eaters.”

    • Agree: Neoconned
  144. @Anonymous
    The current logic.

    1. Covid is a death sentence. It will kill untold numbers of people. Letting people move freely is akin to mass murder. For the sake of the people, they must be forced to stay locked down or do social distancing.

    2. Protests(and riots) are justified. Everyone get out and protest against 'white racism' and police brutality. Come on out and join in.

    Hmm. If Covid is a death sentence and if mobs will spread the disease and kill untold numbers of people, isn't calling on people to protest a death sentence for all those blacks and proglodytes who constitute most of the mobs?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    This is gold. We might add “Russians and/or Nazis are exploiting our divisions” next to “a collage of voices moved to speak out against police brutality and racism,” or “white nationalists are turning peaceful protests into crimes” next to “Hollywood celebrities paying bail for arrested rioters.”

  145. America’s recent gentrification trend has to be reversing. How many yuppies are going to look at New York Shitty as a hip place to relocate after this year? Especially when the city elects another Mayor like Diblowsio in the autumn

  146. @Achmed E. Newman

    ... who looks suspiciously like Weird Al Yankovic...
     
    He looks more like the Unix Sys-Admin. to me.

    I don't watch the TV so I haven't noticed the trend away from closed-captioning. It seems much less distracting and probably quicker for deaf people at that.

    I wonder if that sign-language guy was actually saying something totally different from what the Commie Mayor was saying, perhaps "Listen, we don't (OK, probably not "Listen") have the situational awareness that the hearing do. Stay the hell inside! Make sure you've got security cameras. This moron I work for is full of it. You don't want anything to do with these people out there expressing their pain downtown. Don't tell any hearing people what I'm saying. I need this job."

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Jane Plain, @Cortes, @Bardon Kaldian, @GMR, @PiltdownMan

    The ASL interpreter inset on TV screens during speeches reminds me of Rudy Giuliani’s son at his dad’s 1994 speech, just after he was sworn in as mayor.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @PiltdownMan

    Haha! That's cute, but it seems a shame to do that to the kid (getting him interested in the dirty business of politics so young).

  147. @peterike
    Here's why NYC can't have nice things anymore.

    https://nypost.com/2020/06/02/feds-file-appeal-to-keep-bomb-throwing-nyc-lawyers-behind-bars/

    Short version.

    Bomb-throwing lawyers caught. Judge wants to release on bail. Feds say, "no no, we want to prosecute, hold on to them." NYC Judge says "F you" and releases them. No name given for the judge. Hmmm.

    Side note: part of the problem in NYC is that woke New York passed "bail reform," which means the vast majority of people "arrested" are let go almost immediately, and head right back to the streets to riot some more.

    DeBlasio is a sick joke.

    PS - Just found the judge's name. Steven Gold. Lol!

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Ancient Briton, @Mr. Anon

    The Molotov cocktail thrower is a Pakistani who was wearing one of those black-and-white patterend scarves so popular among pro-Palestinian activists.

  148. @Redman
    @YetAnotherAnon

    The Baden guy, who seems to be hired as a second opinion for every famous autopsy, said Floyd had minimal underlying health conditions. And that he died from Chauvin’s neck hold.

    Interesting that both CNN and FOX are loudly proclaiming his opinion as superior to the MN coroner. Yet when he said that Epstein didn’t commit suicide last year, most claimed he was a quack. Move along. Nothing to see here, nothing to see here.

    Whatever happened with that Epstein investigation anyway? It’s been a while and zilch.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anonymous

    Baden is the Gloria Allred of medical examiners. He’s a hearse-chaser.

  149. @Not My Economy
    A crazy game is developing between the blue state/city governments (e.g. DeBlasio) and the police.

    The mayor needs the physical authority of the cops cause otherwise the rioters will bash in his head with a 2x4. But the cops need the political authority of the mayor because otherwise their pensions are toast. So when the mayor says to the cops: you aren't allowed to protect yourselves either, you have to just let them throw shit at you... what happens? How long are the cops going to keep letting themselves get run over, shot, burned, etc etc in hopes that this passes over and they get back on track to The Pension?

    Replies: @Alden, @leterip, @leterip

    I have a related question. Perhaps there are some police/ex-police here to help me understand why the police continue to be punching bags. “Economy” mentioned pensions but I don’t think that is the explanation. Why doesn’t some police union simply say they are unwilling to continue to allow their members to be punching bags and organize a sick-out or something?

  150. @Not My Economy
    A crazy game is developing between the blue state/city governments (e.g. DeBlasio) and the police.

    The mayor needs the physical authority of the cops cause otherwise the rioters will bash in his head with a 2x4. But the cops need the political authority of the mayor because otherwise their pensions are toast. So when the mayor says to the cops: you aren't allowed to protect yourselves either, you have to just let them throw shit at you... what happens? How long are the cops going to keep letting themselves get run over, shot, burned, etc etc in hopes that this passes over and they get back on track to The Pension?

    Replies: @Alden, @leterip, @leterip

    I have a related question. Perhaps there are some police/ex-police here to help me understand why the police continue to be punching bags. “Economy” mentioned pensions but I don’t think that is the explanation. Why doesn’t some police union simply say they are unwilling to continue to allow their members to be punching bags and organize a sick-out or something?

  151. @Joe Stalin
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olNN2iT41S4

    Replies: @nebulafox

    “American Pharoah”.

    BTW, George, this is the real Hizzoner I was referring to, THE Hizzoner who was busy defending his people and his city as a real mayor is supposed to do while Lindsey was kissing the butts of the radical chic types. I’d give anything to see Daley Sr’s version of the CPD have five minutes alone with Antifa.

  152. @Morris Applebaum IV
    What the looting and rioting is all about:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/01/bets-robert-johnson-calls-for-14-trillion-of-reparations-for-slavery.html

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Neoconned

    I wonder if BET will even be a thing when all this settles down and half of Manhattan is deserted….

  153. @Altai
    Here comes Harvard legacy Conan O'Brien with his take.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyE-fbqlIRg

    Here are some other videos of Conan showing his commitment towards justice, equality and disgust at violence and oppression.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khuUX79Qboo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-aJf2fiY1c

    He also owns a pair of cowboy boots gifted to him by Vincente Fox, the Mexican George W Bush who I'm sure also has a healthy opinion of his indigenous and heavily Amerindian citizens. O'Brien showed them off as a gift to show their solidarity in hating Trump. O'Brien seems not to note the pattern of Mexico's white elite loving illegal immigration to the US as a form of release valve to preserve their own corruption and inequality.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Neoconned

    Cant speak for others but I’ve never liked or found conan funny.

    And I was NEVER with Coco….NBC or wjoever was right to get rid of him.

  154. Anonymous[509] • Disclaimer says:

    On the subconscious level, blacks seem to be saying June should be Black Month. Why should it be cold and short February? Why should homos have June?

    Globalist elites tried to use the ‘Gay’ Rainbow Bus where blacks were supposed to sit to the back. Homos and trannies were supposed to be the ones getting the most love, attention, and support.
    Blacks would have bitched earlier about this but black Obama was so pro-homo and did more for LGBTQXYZ than for blacks.

    Well, that globo-homo bus is burning.

    On some subconscious level, this seems a black envy riot against homos.

  155. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @PiltdownMan
    @PiltdownMan

    Mr. Sailer, could you delete my post above, please? I've learned, after I posted it, that the person depicted in it, Bill de Blasio's daughter, suffered from mental illness. In light of that, it is very unfair and wrong to indulge in mockery at her expense, public figure though she is.

    Replies: @UK, @Charon, @OsgoodDeLaPoopoo, @peterike, @128, @Anonymous

    I’ve learned, after I posted it, that the person depicted in it, Bill de Blasio’s daughter, suffered from mental illness. In light of that, it is very unfair and wrong to indulge in mockery at her expense, public figure though she is.

    Is it?

    If BdB’s daughter is seeking a quiet corner to go to pieces in, then yes, I agree: mocking her and adding to her already formidable problems would be unfair, even cruel.

    If, however, she is like an increasing number of self-proclaimed “mentally ill” people who insist on both waving their mental illness about as some sort of praiseworthy Unique Selling Point and making perfect nuisances of themselves, then she should have every expectation of being mocked, same as any other person who refuses to acknowledge that a little of them goes a long way.

    Judging by her recent arrest, I’d say she falls into the latter category, but I simply don’t care enough about her and/or her antics to confirm this for myself.

  156. @GMR
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I don't know if the sign language guy is saying something different. But once I read about some event that had a translator because the speaker was German or Japanese or whatever. So the interpreter said something to the effect of, "Now he's telling a joke, but there really is no way to translate it effectively while I'm doing this, so just laugh now for a few seconds."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @ScarletNumber

    GMR, I didn’t seriously think the guy could get away with it, as much as it would have been pretty cool. I know a Chinese lady who used to do translating for foreigners in China on business trips. Besides having good English skills (these were people from the Middle East, so using their own language was out of the question), the customers had to have some trust in her. Otherwise, translators would be prone to some mistranslations on pricing with the difference going to the middle man (the translator).

  157. @PiltdownMan
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The ASL interpreter inset on TV screens during speeches reminds me of Rudy Giuliani's son at his dad's 1994 speech, just after he was sworn in as mayor.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re_wo_Bl9Uc

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Haha! That’s cute, but it seems a shame to do that to the kid (getting him interested in the dirty business of politics so young).

  158. @GMR
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I don't know if the sign language guy is saying something different. But once I read about some event that had a translator because the speaker was German or Japanese or whatever. So the interpreter said something to the effect of, "Now he's telling a joke, but there really is no way to translate it effectively while I'm doing this, so just laugh now for a few seconds."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @ScarletNumber

    In the version of the anecdote I heard, the speaker was American speaking English in Japan. Apparently Japan doesn’t have the tradition of starting business speeches with humorous anecdotes like America does.

  159. I don’t understand why we need the ASL version of The Star-Spangled Banner at the Super Bowl. Deaf people already know the words.

    As for sign-language interpreters in general, Curb Your Enthusiasm mocked the concept in Season 9. The backstory is that Jeff and Susie’s daughter is marrying a man with deaf parents.

  160. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    @Technite78

    Thanks for that personal report, Technite. I'd like to see more of that from different commenters here. Right now, I got nuthin'.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Anonymous

    Thanks for that personal report, Technite. I’d like to see more of that from different commenters here.

    Having had a close chum emerge much the worse for wear from the North London Riots of just under a decade ago, I would be far more pleased if everyone here had no first-hand accounts to offer.

    Some things come at too high a price.

  161. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Coemgen
    Since most of public announcements accompanied by sign language interpreters are, in my opinion, typically Cape-Flapping; I propose that sign language interpreters should henceforth:

    1. Stand in front of the speaker who is being interpreted
    2. Wear capes
    3. Flap their capes vigorously as they perform their interpretations

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Since most of public announcements accompanied by sign language interpreters are, in my opinion, typically Cape-Flapping; I propose that sign language interpreters should henceforth:

    1. Stand in front of the speaker who is being interpreted
    2. Wear capes
    3. Flap their capes vigorously as they perform their interpretations

    Seeing as these “interpreters” are paid for out of the public purse, why not eschew sign language altogether in favour of interpretive dance?

    (If you ask nicely, you may even get dancers wearing capes.)

    • Replies: @Coemgen
    @Anonymous


    interpretive dance
     
    Yes!
  162. @Peter D. Bredon
    @politically correct

    Yeah, that's why those classy European movies have an interpreter in the corner.

    Replies: @Cortes

    After a busy day Stalin and the boys liked to wind down by watching the latest John Wayne western. They used to have fun with the hapless interpreter who basically just told them what they could see themselves:

    “Now the goodie is pushing through the swing doors to the saloon.” Like that.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Cortes


    They used to have fun with the hapless interpreter who basically just told them what they could see themselves:
     
    Ah, yes, but it is important to ask:why did he do that? Why would an interpreter deliberately not do his job and, instead, insist on telling people things they already knew?

    He acted that way because, by doing so, he avoided the risk of incurring Stalin's wrath by telling him something he did not want to hear. People who made Stalin angry were sent to the gulag.

    (Go ahead, laugh, but that interpreter kept his life, which is more than a few million of his countrymen were able to do under Stalin.)
  163. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Just another serf
    I would greatly respect a politician who would perform their own sign language while speaking. Imagine how impressive Biden and Trump would look if while debating, they both spoke and signed simultaneously. And if they rhymed, even more better. Add a few women of color twerking beside the podiums and you’ve got an extravaganza.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I would greatly respect a politician who would perform their own sign language while speaking. Imagine how impressive Biden and Trump would look if while debating, they both spoke and signed simultaneously. And if they rhymed, even more better.

    Consider forcing your politicians into conducting their debates in Cockney rhyming slang.

    (Hugely expressive. Puts sign language in the shade.)

  164. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Don Bob
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I lived in a leafy liberal suburb of the Imperial Capital for a number of years. I sold my house for a handsome sum of money and GTFO May 1st, just in time.

    I now live is a small town in Appalachia. Lots of overweight hillbillies, not very many good looking women, very few POCS, but everybody is very friendly.

    The Kroger clerk this morning said there was going to be a protest downtown, and wondered if he should buy a gun. I told him yes.

    Absolutely nothing has happened here. We don't have the black and antifa raw material and the locals are armed to the teeth.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I now live is a small town in Appalachia. Lots of overweight hillbillies, not very many good looking women,

    Careful. Those hillbilly women can not only keep a fellow warm, but they can cook for him, too. Which is more than can be said for far too many city females these days (ask me how I know).

    Looks are important, but so is feeding the Inner Man. And looks do fade, after all.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Anonymous

    It's not just the looks, it's also the fat and the tattoos, both of which are rampant in blue collar America. You have to see it to believe it.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  165. @politically correct
    I know you thrive on attacking political correctness, so I'm not surprised by you questioning why a sign language interpreter is used when closed caption could have been used. However, the same logic would mean that whatever speech/announcement is being given could just as well be given via text - why bother speaking at all? I think the act of personally delivering a message is important to people - that's why it is done. If so, then it is equally important to deliver something comparable for the hearing-impaired. Targeting the latter as politically correct nonsense, but not the former, seems to me to indicate your own deep-seated bias.

    Replies: @res, @Peter D. Bredon, @dimples

    Whenever I see this sign language interpreter thing I just turn off the boob tube, or if this is not possible just walk out. What percentage of the population is deaf? Not a lot. They got along perfectly well before political correctness came along. What happens when deaf people want to go to the shops? Why doesn’t the nanny state provide all deaf people with their personal sign language interpreter? It’s surely overdue, then normal people wouldn’t have to watch this shit.

    This shit is literal virtue signalling. When you see it you know that civilization has turned into a parody of itself.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @dimples

    Actually, and I hate to say this out loud, in case Big Brother is looking for some more goodies, but I could see a lip-reading app being workable at this point. It'd be very challenging, and I don't think I'd personally like a phone cam being turned on me anyway.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  166. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Redman
    @YetAnotherAnon

    The Baden guy, who seems to be hired as a second opinion for every famous autopsy, said Floyd had minimal underlying health conditions. And that he died from Chauvin’s neck hold.

    Interesting that both CNN and FOX are loudly proclaiming his opinion as superior to the MN coroner. Yet when he said that Epstein didn’t commit suicide last year, most claimed he was a quack. Move along. Nothing to see here, nothing to see here.

    Whatever happened with that Epstein investigation anyway? It’s been a while and zilch.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anonymous

    The Baden guy, who seems to be hired as a second opinion for every famous autopsy, said Floyd had minimal underlying health conditions.

    I would give a lot to know what sort of reputation this Baden fellow has among his fellow medical examiners.

    From what I gather, his entire career is based on finding fault with the work they performed; I don’t imagine he makes many friends earning a living that way.

  167. @Lagertha
    De Blaaahhhsio is so over. The rich New Yorkers are gonna vote him out. His entire life's career is over. He messed with the wrong rich people!

    Replies: @VinnyVette

    In theory you’re correct, but there’s a caveat… Ideology trumps common sense!

  168. @Anonymous
    @Coemgen


    Since most of public announcements accompanied by sign language interpreters are, in my opinion, typically Cape-Flapping; I propose that sign language interpreters should henceforth:

    1. Stand in front of the speaker who is being interpreted
    2. Wear capes
    3. Flap their capes vigorously as they perform their interpretations
     
    Seeing as these "interpreters" are paid for out of the public purse, why not eschew sign language altogether in favour of interpretive dance?

    (If you ask nicely, you may even get dancers wearing capes.)

    Replies: @Coemgen

    interpretive dance

    Yes!

  169. The fact of the matter is that the sign language guy was properly interpreting the message–the protests were generally peaceful, there were riots as a result of a group NOT dedicated to the overall cause, and that criminal element will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @Corvinus


    the protests were generally peaceful, there were riots as a result of a group NOT dedicated to the overall cause, and that criminal element will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
     
    Nearly all of them have already been released without charges, and the riots were widespread in numerous cities. Normally I ignore your clowning but sometimes it's worth quoting a particularly stupid bit for posterity.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  170. @Anon7
    I'm sure rioters of the past had their product preferences, but have we moved into a new era of the upscale looter? Three Apple stores were sacked, along with other luxury brands.

    Are the looted items for personal use primarily? Or should Tim Cook have his minions looking on eBay. Is the price of luxury goods online going down? Do buyers of illicitly obtained merchandise need to watch out for counterfeiters who only pretend to be looters?

    In its waning years, our civilization enters a new era. Inquiring minds want to know.

    Replies: @peterike

    I’m sure rioters of the past had their product preferences, but have we moved into a new era of the upscale looter?

    Indeed. We’re a long way from Jean Valjean going to prison for stealing a loaf of bread to feed his starving children. Yet the moral equation is exactly the same for today’s gentry Left.

  171. @Achmed E. Newman
    @res

    That's a great point, Res, that I've thought of many times. It's one thing if private businesses or individuals do things out of the goodness of their own hearts, even if it's all a waste of time. However, when every single place is required to install a big wheelchair ramp that takes up 1/4 of their property, it's just another inefficiency (in AD's parlance) of the American economy. Hey, you got a handicapped guy who's a regular customer? You can find a way to help him out.

    I shit you not, I've seen a small parking lot out in the desert of California with 2 handicapped spaces out of 8 or so, that was the trailhead to a hiking trail that went 2 miles before you even got to the cool terrain. That terrain was full of 1 ft. boulders and cactus that were sticking the hell out of us.

    Replies: @David

    The inefficiency is part of the objective. In NYC under Giuliani, it was decided that outfitting every bus to load and carry wheelchairs was more expensive that establishing a free, on-demand limo service for people in wheelchairs. The cripple could summon his ride and be taken directly to his destination.

    But that was discriminatory, so all the buses were eventually equipped with pneumatic suspensions that could lower the bus to the level of the curb. Then a platform was extended to the sidewalk, which would then lift up the infirmed and draw him into the bus, where a special area without seats was set aside with anchors on the floor to grip the wheelchair. The driver had to operate all this, so had to leave the bus for two or three minutes with each loading and unloading, while all the ablists looked on with resentment.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @David

    I've been there, David (it wasn't NYC). One time, this crap was taking so damn long for someone who was not even in a wheelchair, I made some remark about "we all got places to be" or what-have-you, and it was not taken well. People are apparently very sensitive now. Who knew?

  172. @Anonymous
    @Jim Don Bob


    I now live is a small town in Appalachia. Lots of overweight hillbillies, not very many good looking women,
     
    Careful. Those hillbilly women can not only keep a fellow warm, but they can cook for him, too. Which is more than can be said for far too many city females these days (ask me how I know).

    Looks are important, but so is feeding the Inner Man. And looks do fade, after all.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    It’s not just the looks, it’s also the fat and the tattoos, both of which are rampant in blue collar America. You have to see it to believe it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jim Don Bob


    It’s not just the looks, it’s also the fat and the tattoos, both of which are rampant in blue collar America. You have to see it to believe it.
     
    I'd just as soon not see it if you don't mind; the mental image evoked by your two sentences is quite enough.

    Sadly, the UK is not itself deficient in fine folks with fat; neither do we suffer from a tattoo shortage. I am sorry to hear that the country folk out your way take no better care of themselves than our city folk do.

    I was, however, gladdened to hear that you got out when you did: your timing was impeccable. I cannot imagine anyone suddenly "inspired" by recent events into flogging a house anywhere near DC is enjoying themselves right now.
  173. I notice quite high-end places are being looted. Presumably the rioters had to travel to get there. How far did they have to travel? How mobile are the underclass in the US? Do they all own vehicles? They are certainly not underfed. Some of them are the size of a truck.

    How far would you have to travel to insulate yourself from them? Is it still going to be possible to move to a safe suburb?

    I live in a community of 500 forty minutes from the next community of 500. The nearest town of any size is three hours away. I think moving here was a wise move.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @22pp22


    I live in a community of 500 forty minutes from the next community of 500. The nearest town of any size is three hours away. I think moving here was a wise move.
     
    Congrats; I'm somewhat jealous particularly since restaurants seem to be a thing of the past (hence I wouldn't be giving that up). But what will you and yours do when expert emergency medical services are required?

    Replies: @22pp22

  174. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cortes
    @Peter D. Bredon

    After a busy day Stalin and the boys liked to wind down by watching the latest John Wayne western. They used to have fun with the hapless interpreter who basically just told them what they could see themselves:

    “Now the goodie is pushing through the swing doors to the saloon.” Like that.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    They used to have fun with the hapless interpreter who basically just told them what they could see themselves:

    Ah, yes, but it is important to ask:why did he do that? Why would an interpreter deliberately not do his job and, instead, insist on telling people things they already knew?

    He acted that way because, by doing so, he avoided the risk of incurring Stalin’s wrath by telling him something he did not want to hear. People who made Stalin angry were sent to the gulag.

    (Go ahead, laugh, but that interpreter kept his life, which is more than a few million of his countrymen were able to do under Stalin.)

  175. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Don Bob
    @Anonymous

    It's not just the looks, it's also the fat and the tattoos, both of which are rampant in blue collar America. You have to see it to believe it.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    It’s not just the looks, it’s also the fat and the tattoos, both of which are rampant in blue collar America. You have to see it to believe it.

    I’d just as soon not see it if you don’t mind; the mental image evoked by your two sentences is quite enough.

    Sadly, the UK is not itself deficient in fine folks with fat; neither do we suffer from a tattoo shortage. I am sorry to hear that the country folk out your way take no better care of themselves than our city folk do.

    I was, however, gladdened to hear that you got out when you did: your timing was impeccable. I cannot imagine anyone suddenly “inspired” by recent events into flogging a house anywhere near DC is enjoying themselves right now.

  176. @dimples
    @politically correct

    Whenever I see this sign language interpreter thing I just turn off the boob tube, or if this is not possible just walk out. What percentage of the population is deaf? Not a lot. They got along perfectly well before political correctness came along. What happens when deaf people want to go to the shops? Why doesn't the nanny state provide all deaf people with their personal sign language interpreter? It's surely overdue, then normal people wouldn't have to watch this shit.

    This shit is literal virtue signalling. When you see it you know that civilization has turned into a parody of itself.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Actually, and I hate to say this out loud, in case Big Brother is looking for some more goodies, but I could see a lip-reading app being workable at this point. It’d be very challenging, and I don’t think I’d personally like a phone cam being turned on me anyway.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Actually, and I hate to say this out loud, in case Big Brother is looking for some more goodies,
     
    I suspect BB* has a surfeit of goodies at this point.

    If Clearview AI doesn't have a months-long backlog, you can colour me surprised.

    (*All together now: B...B! B...B!)
  177. @David
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The inefficiency is part of the objective. In NYC under Giuliani, it was decided that outfitting every bus to load and carry wheelchairs was more expensive that establishing a free, on-demand limo service for people in wheelchairs. The cripple could summon his ride and be taken directly to his destination.

    But that was discriminatory, so all the buses were eventually equipped with pneumatic suspensions that could lower the bus to the level of the curb. Then a platform was extended to the sidewalk, which would then lift up the infirmed and draw him into the bus, where a special area without seats was set aside with anchors on the floor to grip the wheelchair. The driver had to operate all this, so had to leave the bus for two or three minutes with each loading and unloading, while all the ablists looked on with resentment.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I’ve been there, David (it wasn’t NYC). One time, this crap was taking so damn long for someone who was not even in a wheelchair, I made some remark about “we all got places to be” or what-have-you, and it was not taken well. People are apparently very sensitive now. Who knew?

  178. @danand
    @Buffalo Joe


    “...Rochester a small woman...”
     
    Buffalo Joe, perhaps this is the woman?

    https://youtu.be/5tEUmmYDUfA

    https://youtu.be/jLR272Qz4B0



    I should not post this, but here is a clip of George’s romantic acting:

    Warning....GRAPHIC....Do not watch....only for record archiving purposes.



    https://flyheight.com/embed/ed5rkm

    Replies: @ATBOTL

    There were at least three white male cowards just watching this and doing nothing. One of them was holding a two by four. White men need to start calling out these kinds of cowards. There is never an excuse not to fight when blacks are attacking whites. It doesn’t matter what the odds. If we can’t do that, we don’t deserve to survive.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @ATBOTL

    Steady on there, Lancelot. A lot of white women are plain nuts in the head, and here's a good example. Who but a white woman would go up to a rioting mob and begin chewing them out? No black woman would do something like that (they may be dumb but they're not crazy). A lot of white women are born crazy and become progressively more deranged as they get older. Their self-inflicted messes and misfortunes are nobody's business but their own.

  179. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    @dimples

    Actually, and I hate to say this out loud, in case Big Brother is looking for some more goodies, but I could see a lip-reading app being workable at this point. It'd be very challenging, and I don't think I'd personally like a phone cam being turned on me anyway.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Actually, and I hate to say this out loud, in case Big Brother is looking for some more goodies,

    I suspect BB* has a surfeit of goodies at this point.

    If Clearview AI doesn’t have a months-long backlog, you can colour me surprised.

    (*All together now: B…B! B…B!)

  180. @Corvinus
    The fact of the matter is that the sign language guy was properly interpreting the message--the protests were generally peaceful, there were riots as a result of a group NOT dedicated to the overall cause, and that criminal element will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

    the protests were generally peaceful, there were riots as a result of a group NOT dedicated to the overall cause, and that criminal element will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

    Nearly all of them have already been released without charges, and the riots were widespread in numerous cities. Normally I ignore your clowning but sometimes it’s worth quoting a particularly stupid bit for posterity.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Mr McKenna

    "Nearly all of them have already been released without charges..."

    Sources?

    "Normally I ignore your clowning..."

    You mean NOTICING, which is quite uncomfortable because it breaks down your narrative into little pieces.

  181. @22pp22
    I notice quite high-end places are being looted. Presumably the rioters had to travel to get there. How far did they have to travel? How mobile are the underclass in the US? Do they all own vehicles? They are certainly not underfed. Some of them are the size of a truck.

    How far would you have to travel to insulate yourself from them? Is it still going to be possible to move to a safe suburb?

    I live in a community of 500 forty minutes from the next community of 500. The nearest town of any size is three hours away. I think moving here was a wise move.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

    I live in a community of 500 forty minutes from the next community of 500. The nearest town of any size is three hours away. I think moving here was a wise move.

    Congrats; I’m somewhat jealous particularly since restaurants seem to be a thing of the past (hence I wouldn’t be giving that up). But what will you and yours do when expert emergency medical services are required?

    • Replies: @22pp22
    @Mr McKenna

    We have three specially equipped helicopters. We can be on the roof of Dunedin General before an ambulance can get in from the suburbs.

    Unfortunately, the madness afflicting America has come here. The main North Island newspaper, the New Zealand Herald has devoted every other story to "racism." The Mongrel Mob (local Maori hoodlums) are acting like they re the police up there.

    The South Island should declare independence before it is too late.

  182. @Mr McKenna
    @Corvinus


    the protests were generally peaceful, there were riots as a result of a group NOT dedicated to the overall cause, and that criminal element will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
     
    Nearly all of them have already been released without charges, and the riots were widespread in numerous cities. Normally I ignore your clowning but sometimes it's worth quoting a particularly stupid bit for posterity.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Nearly all of them have already been released without charges…”

    Sources?

    “Normally I ignore your clowning…”

    You mean NOTICING, which is quite uncomfortable because it breaks down your narrative into little pieces.

  183. @Mr McKenna
    @22pp22


    I live in a community of 500 forty minutes from the next community of 500. The nearest town of any size is three hours away. I think moving here was a wise move.
     
    Congrats; I'm somewhat jealous particularly since restaurants seem to be a thing of the past (hence I wouldn't be giving that up). But what will you and yours do when expert emergency medical services are required?

    Replies: @22pp22

    We have three specially equipped helicopters. We can be on the roof of Dunedin General before an ambulance can get in from the suburbs.

    Unfortunately, the madness afflicting America has come here. The main North Island newspaper, the New Zealand Herald has devoted every other story to “racism.” The Mongrel Mob (local Maori hoodlums) are acting like they re the police up there.

    The South Island should declare independence before it is too late.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
  184. Anonymous[944] • Disclaimer says:
    @ATBOTL
    @danand

    There were at least three white male cowards just watching this and doing nothing. One of them was holding a two by four. White men need to start calling out these kinds of cowards. There is never an excuse not to fight when blacks are attacking whites. It doesn't matter what the odds. If we can't do that, we don't deserve to survive.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Steady on there, Lancelot. A lot of white women are plain nuts in the head, and here’s a good example. Who but a white woman would go up to a rioting mob and begin chewing them out? No black woman would do something like that (they may be dumb but they’re not crazy). A lot of white women are born crazy and become progressively more deranged as they get older. Their self-inflicted messes and misfortunes are nobody’s business but their own.

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