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As I mentioned yesterday, a lot of the current push for World War III is coming from media types who are getting themselves all worked up over their feelings that the World Is Already At War between the Moscow-Tehran-Fox News Axis of Evil and the Beltway-Jerusalem-Kiev Alliance of Niceness. For example, just now:

But really, if David could just come visit the Ethnic Foods aisle in my dad’s old Jon’s Supermarket in Valley Village, CA, he could see how all sorts of people who are some fraction of both sides in this conflict inside David’s head. Yet, they all seem to get along well enough. So we really don’t need to get into a tank war on the Eastern Front.

 
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  1. ‘David Frum Accuses Tucker Carlson…’

    Ergo, there’s at least something good about Tucker Carlson.

    • Agree: Realist, Richard B
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Colin Wright

    At this point, I can't think of anything bad about Tucker Carlson. About the Democrats, he said this yesterday:


    "This is what happens when you let Jeff Zucker run your political party."

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-blames-media-for-impeachment-push-says-democrats-have-lost
     

    Idk, maybe his haircut?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Realist

    , @Prof. Woland
    @Colin Wright

    I have no doubt that one of the main reasons Russia is enemy #1 on the left in this country is that they are white. Due to the extreme diversity in their coalition, the main thing that unites them is what they are against not what they are for. And the more diverse they become, the more unstable their coalition.

    Their constant need for demagoguery to glue themselves together feeds into all aspects including foreign policy. China is much more threatening and amoral but they are non-white. Same for Islam. But they way it works on the left, this cannot be noticed which places even more focus on Putin. In a sense, they are not even a proxy like assault weapons or the flag. They are the real deal; white, blue eyed, and blond.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland, @Colin Wright, @Kolya Krassotkin

    , @Richard B
    @Colin Wright

    Frum: their nationalism attaches not to the multiracial American nation and its capital in Washington, but to a multinational White nation with its capital in Moscow.

    Ah! Would that it were.

    But really, this needs to be rewritten, only this time in a way that doesn't conceal, but reveals, the heart of the matter.

    So, taking the liberty, here's Frum again,

    "Jewish Supremacy Inc., (the creators of Invite-Invade-In Debt) of which I, Frum, am a proud member, attaches not to the multiracial American nation that we also created and most definitely control, with its capital in Washington, but to a multinational Jewish nation with its capital in Jerusalem (I mean, really, why do you think we had our Shabbos Goy-in-Chief ostentaciously move the embassy if not to rub it in your face?).

    And we shall tolerate no false Gods (other races) before us. Ever!"

    The one bright spot in all of this is that more and more people are growing sick, sore and tired of their obnoxious persecution mania and creepy as hell psycho-supremacy.

  2. This kind of lets the cat out of the bag about who the ‘Neo-Cons’ are and what their agenda is, doesn’t it?

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @Colin Wright

    Frum threw the mask in the trash a long time ago. This isn't even particularly provocative for him.

    , @CrunchyButRealistCon
    @Colin Wright

    "The Cossacks are coming ! The Cossacks!...."

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Colin Wright

    I haven't seen them this angry since great-uncle Moishe got sent back to the Pale.

    , @gsjackson
    @Colin Wright

    The cat's been roaming around at least since Frum attacked Pat Buchanan in a cover story in The American Spectator about 30 years ago. He did need to update his "axis of evil" from the one he authored for GW Bush -- Iraq, Iran and North Korea.

    , @S. Anonyia
    @Colin Wright

    Aren’t they essentially leftover Trotskyites? Instead of eternal communist revolution it’s eternal revolution for democracies & multinational corporations.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  3. Message to David Frum. Long live the Palestinians, and the US must stop favoring Jewish supremacists over Palestinian resisters.

    • LOL: IHTG
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    Long live the Palestinians
     
    This one will live long, at our expense:


    http://www.ocalapost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Fort-Hood.jpg

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Not Raul

    , @Jesse
    @Anonymous

    Oh. My. GOD. Who the hell cares?

    The criticism that the pro Israel side is sublimating their love of race on a tiny rat hole in the ME has some validity.

    But so does the other side. There is literally no reason to side with a bunch of random Muslims (who, BTW, are doing to us what they whine about the Israelis doing to them) other than cowardice. You're angry at the Jewish elites in the West, but too terrified of them to go after them directly. So you sublimate it on a conflict that has nothing to do with you.

    (And don't give me that bull about "all that money" going to Israel. The US subsidizes and takes orders from many, many countries and groups. Somehow, none of them stir up this level of rage. Somehow.)

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd, @nebulafox, @Anon, @Joe Schmoe

    , @Art Deco
    @Anonymous

    and the US must stop favoring Jewish supremacists over Palestinian resisters.

    Why? The 'resisters' have no practical objects and very little human capital.

    What's amusing about this is that half the people on this board are, in their stated dispositions, flagrantly unsentimental if not brutal. At the same time another bloc are bleeding hearts for a modest collection of Arabs who do absolutely nothing sensible to ameliorate their situation and whose 'leadership' has on six separate occasions over 50-odd years rejected or sabotaged efforts to improve their situation (because those efforts did not incorporate killing a lot of Jews). And, what's also amusing, is that the flagrantly unsentimental have flat nothing critical to say to the sob sisters. Gives you the idea that the issue is never really the issue.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Joe Schmoe

  4. Ramzan Kadyrov

    Hero of the White Race

    Role model for millions of young white men

    Riding the Tiger with Mike Tyson

    • Replies: @anonynous
    @216

    Can you tell us a little more about who Ramzan Kadyrov is?

    I take it by your reference to Mike Tyson that he is some type of boxer/MMA fighter.

    It has been a rather pleasant surprise to me that (middle and heavier weight) White European/White British boxers and MMA/UFC have done very well these last 20 years, in contrast when I was a youth/teen in the 1970s, 80s Black African Americans completely dominated - poor Jerry Quary was our only representative and he was getting soundly beaten by the likes of Muhammed Ali, Joe Frazier though he did destroy Ernie Shavers managed by a very insulting hate White people manager Don King.

    This is a way to inspire our youth and get them away from worshipping NFL felons, rap "singers" - instead get them interested in very competitive, very successful boxers and MMS fighters that look and think like us.

    Sorry to see the once very promisting British/Irish gypsy heavy weight champion Tyson Fury is now playing the role of a clown, getting in to the cursed fake wrestling WWF - what a waste thate world is. Tyson Fury had once been a very honorable spokesman for traditional Catholic Christianity, traditional patriotism and even named the Js once or twice as monopolizing our media and corrupting our children.

    So who is this Ramzan Kadyrov

    Replies: @Hunsdon, @AndrewR

  5. Uh, David Frum is accusing someone else of loyalty to a multinational race with a capital located outside of the US?

    He is obviously baiting some of his audience….

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Arclight

    Pot - meet Kettle.

    , @bigdicknick
    @Arclight

    jewish intelligence doesn't extend to self awareness. It's their achilles heel.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Billy Shears, @kikz

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Arclight

    So Tucker is an International WASP.

    Also, don't forget Tulsi and her Hawaiian-Samoan white supremacist pant suit.

    , @fitzhamilton
    @Arclight

    It's amusing how much of our political strum and drang these days is (to use a nice, Freudian term) simply psychological projection, accusing others what you are guilty of.

    We tend to assume others have the same inner life, and are operating from the same motives as ourselves.

    You tend to accuse others of what you yourself feel guilty of, after all.

    This tweet from Frum is a classic example. He's accusing Tucker Carlson of exactly what he is doing.

    So too is the "Russia Gate" nonsense. The American intelligence community accuses Russia of interfering with our elections.. This is coming from the same bunch (with Hillary Clinton's direction) that overthrew the Honduran government in 2009 and sent the elected president into exile.. Who just recently drove Evo Morales out of power in Bolivia.. Who are trying to overthrow the elected governments of Iran and Venezuela (whom they claim are undemocratic, but in fact have limited democracies seriously circumscribed and limited by elites, with highly controlled elections just like we have here).. Who are trying to destabilize the Syrian and Chinese government.. Who overthrew the democratically elected Allende in Chile and Mossadegh in Iran.. High test hypocrisy, blatant projection.

    These same people warned us all that Russia was about to subvert our democracy and overthrow our government back in 2016. Bad conscience over how they turned Boris Yeltsin into their puppet and raped Russia back in the 90's perhaps?

    They accuse Russia of mounting a psyops campaign to pollute our discourse, manipulate our public narrative and influence our elections, while doing exactly the same thing themselves constantly, everywhere internationally, and even (especially) in the United States itself. Classic projection.

    Hillary Clinton accuses Trump of Russian collusion, this from the same woman who negotiated the Uranium One Deal with Russia in 2010 after she and Bill and their eponymous foundation received millions of dollars from Russian sources and others benefiting from the deal. Ah, such sweet, sweet projection.

    They accuse Trump of profiting from his office through housing government employees and foreign visitors at his hotels, and thus selling his influence to corporate and foreign supplicants who bribe him indirectly through such stays.. This after themselves taking speaking honorariums and "donations" in the hundreds of millions from corporations and foreign powers. While Hunter Biden sits on foreign corporate boards in countries interested in culling his father's influence, collecting millions of dollars.. More glorious projection.

    The Babylonian Talmud warns: "Do not taunt your neighbour with the blemish you yourself have."

    David Frum ought to take those words to heart. Zionists accusing any one of multinational ethnocentric fascism ought to think about what is happening in Gaza and the West Bank the take a good long look in the mirror. This is violence is committed in the name of sustaining a state created to prevent a second holocaust. Jewish victimhood justifies Jewish victimization of others. This is projection made simply sublime.

    As one Jew once challenged his co-religionists:

    "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."

    Yom Kippur rolls around annually. Maybe David might take it seriously next year.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Steve in Greensboro

    , @Lot
    @Arclight

    “ He is obviously baiting some of his audience….”

    He probably thought calling Tucker cosmopolitan would make it too obvious.

  6. “Supermarket in Valley Village, CA, he could see how all sorts of people who are some fraction of both sides in this conflict inside David’s head. ”

    Who knew the antithesis of “diversity + proximity = conflict” was the ethnic food aisle at trendy grocery stores???

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Jon's is not trendy. It looks suspiciously like an off-brand version of the VONS chain. According to legend Jon's was there first and gradually morphed into a VONS knockoff, or that's the evolutionary biology explanation anyway.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  7. @Arclight
    Uh, David Frum is accusing someone else of loyalty to a multinational race with a capital located outside of the US?

    He is obviously baiting some of his audience....

    Replies: @Jack D, @bigdicknick, @Hypnotoad666, @fitzhamilton, @Lot

    Pot – meet Kettle.

  8. Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn’t give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn’t believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don’t want them to live under a “Nazi style regime” that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing “Privileged White Guy”.
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won’t be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    • Disagree: neutral, Hail
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Sherry Khan

    'Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn’t give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week...'

    They're welcome to not come. In fact, I for one would willingly help them leave.

    , @istevefan
    @Sherry Khan


    My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan
     
    It's a crime that the USA poached this man from a nation in more need of physicians than the US itself. Colonialism was wrong when rich nations stole other's natural resources. It's wrong today when they steal their human resources.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    , @schnellandine
    @Sherry Khan


    a Surgeon from Pakistan
     
    Isn't that the most-requested attribute for people who need a surgeon?

    "I want to make sure the surgeon earned his bones in Pakistan, or at least Nigeria."

    Instant suicide watch, I hear a friend say that.
    , @Peripatetic Commenter
    @Sherry Khan

    Is that you again Tiny D*ck?

    , @Peripatetic Commenter
    @Sherry Khan

    It's OK to be white.

    In fact, it's great to be white. After all, so many Indian and Pakistani women use whitening creams! They can't all be wrong!

    , @Gaius Gracchus
    @Sherry Khan

    You are welcome to move off to your husband's blessed Pakistan if you don't like it here.

    You, in a single post, validated opinions that immigration for the last century has been a bad idea.

    Replies: @Sherry Khan

    , @Alfa158
    @Sherry Khan

    It’s OK folks, this is Tiny Duck again. Somebody tipped him off on how to post comments using multiple handles and fictitious e-mails.
    Notice that he gave us the old TD wink and a nod to let us know he’s still on the job by planting his trademark little mis-spellings.

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow

    , @Chet Bradley
    @Sherry Khan

    Hi Tiny, how's the new alias? Did you transition fully?

    , @nebulafox
    @Sherry Khan

    "My fellow white people"

    Ohs Turcluckens...

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Sherry Khan

    Tiny Dick's latest incarnation.

    , @MEH 0910
    @Sherry Khan

    https://twitter.com/sairasameerarao/status/1197991760322072578

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    , @Clyde
    @Sherry Khan

    You quack and misspell like a tiny duck. How about plugging verysmartbrothas.com? And Lenord Spitz?

    , @Realist
    @Sherry Khan


    I, as a mother of mixed race children don’t want them to live under a “Nazi style regime” that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive.
     
    That explains a lot...not all Whites are intelligent.

    My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing “Privileged White Guy”.
     
    My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan and my grandparents who immigrated from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing “Privileged White Guy”

    FIFY

    First a Norwegian that would marry a Swede is suspect.
    And second Carlson does not wear a bow tie.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @Tlotsi
    @Sherry Khan

    Tiny Dick strikes, again!

    , @Malcolm X-Lax
    @Sherry Khan

    "My fellow white people" = Obvious Troll

    , @J1234
    @Sherry Khan


    I, as a mother of mixed race children don’t want them to live under a “Nazi style regime” that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive.
     
    So Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson are Nazis. This is a profound corruption of the truth, so why am I supposed to find moral value in what you say based on this? Or is it because you're children are half white that you stand on high moral ground? I suspect that's what you're really trying to say: your half white children make you so moral that you can ignore other tenets of morality (like accurately representing the truth.)

    With regards to immigration, here's a parallel: not taking an entire bottle of aspirin all at once does not make one "anti-aspirin." Likewise, opposing open borders or opposing the radical idea (which you apparently have) that swamping an existing demographic is a moral necessity does not make one "anti-immigrant." Immigration is a positive thing, but like all positive things (such as aspirin) it can be corrupted in it's use. I have a friend who's a non-white surgeon born in another country, and he agrees with me (and then some.)

    I'm pretty sure I'm wasting my time with this, as it's hard to take your arguments seriously. Troll.

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Sherry Khan

    When Team White withdraws into its rural Oranias and Team Brown controls everywhere else, Sikhs and Han will sneer and spit at your mixed-race children. "How could their mother have married a Paki," they will laugh to themselves.

    Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker, @Corvinus

    , @anonymous
    @Sherry Khan

    @Sherry Khan

    You're no different than this POS.

    https://nypost.com/2019/11/26/florida-man-tried-to-recruit-isis-to-kill-two-college-deans-feds/

    , @AnotherDad
    @Sherry Khan

    Ok, i've got to give credit to the cleverness of "Sherry Khan". I'm old and slow so i didn't catch it right away, but--first rate.

    And--to be fair--there are a smattering of "Sherry Khan"s out there. Women who have defected and sold their bodies to enemy foreign men ... which in our weird clueless state allows those men entry into our nation. And the above blather is plausibly what such a woman might spew. So maybe there is some value in this.

    Still this is the 3rd or 4th of these sock puppets i've noticed in the last couple weeks that seem to be from the same source.

    All while our Tiny Duck--who was a comforting presence and occasionally hilarious--remains AWOL.

    "Sherry Khan" if you are the Duck, please give up this sockpuppetry and return to your true calling as "Tiny Duck".

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Daniel Chieh, @Anonymous, @Lot, @black sea

    , @22pp22
    @Sherry Khan

    Pakistani immigrants to Britain have gang-raped their way through every orphanage in the land. They could not have behaved worse than they have. Were it not for PC law-enforcement, the jails would be even more Muslim than they currently are.

    They have brought with them very imaginable kind of barbarism of which bacchi bazi has to be the worst. The huge rise in anti-semitic attacks in solely the result of their arrival.

    Pakistan has a greater need for qualified people than the US. Think of all the good he (and you) could do by settling there.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    , @MBB
    @Sherry Khan

    He is against illegal not legal immigration, as am I. I have multiracial grandchildren whose parents are big Trump supporters. I expect Wisconsin to vote Trump again. You disparage Carlson’s whiteness but not your ancestors. Why the hate?

    , @imbroglio
    @Sherry Khan

    What many of us are concerned about is not the inevitability of America becoming more multi-racial. It's the bigotry of identity politics that, baring its teeth, can't wait to wreck revenge on white people (making no distinction between groups and classes of whites) for the sins of the past as conveniently defined. Your husband may not share these views but many non-whites, and not just immigrants, do.

    How the transition is managed will make all the difference. The current crop of Dems are incapable of doing so in a positive, intelligent way. Tucker Carlson knows that and takes a lot of heat for saying so.

    , @Joe Schmoe
    @Sherry Khan


    My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself
     
    So poor Pakistan is now short another surgeon so that rich Americans can have yet another and increase the disparity of rich over poor.

    We don't need Pakistani surgeons, but Pakistan does.
    , @Bradley
    @Sherry Khan

    “Nazi style government I would consider to be Sharia law.
    Trump actually did not curtail immigration so you have written nothing but delusion and bigotry .

  9. David Frum such a blue face.

  10. listening to John Mearsheimer say that when the USA tried to use its unipolar moment to force the world to turn liberal-democratic I am reminded that at this time the elites went bat-crazy in their enthusiasm for migration. Invade the world, invite the world.

    If, as Mearsheimer emphatically states, that moment is over and anyway revealed as ridiculous in concept, why hasn’t the open borders fad also faded. If all people’s do not want to live in liberal democracies then they can’t live together right?

    • Replies: @216
    @Bill B.

    The Third World believes that they are entitled to immigration as reparations.

    , @Sean
    @Bill B.

    John von Neumann (and Bertrand Russell) advocated threatening or actually using a nuclear strike against the Soviet Union to prevent it acquiring the atomic bomb.After that golden opportunity was lost, liberals went to saying they would bear any burden and make any sacrifice but they it's just rhetoric.

    There was no longer a bipolar world, which was quite stable, and there was a war of words and through proxies. Now there is China, so it is multipolar and so the world is less stable. However the US and Russia are never going to fight because one side would lose and then stop fighting conventionally and go nuclear. And after that specimen strike there would be no way to stop a tit for tat. Hence annoying Russia is safe because there is no possibility war with them. The neocons as chickenhawks.

    If all peoples do not want to live in liberal democracies then they can’t live together right?
     

    No, they live in seperate countries and do not get a choice where they are born.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    , @istevefan
    @Bill B.


    why hasn’t the open borders fad also faded.
     
    Because it's on autopilot now, and as Steve likes to point out, the current crop of newcomers want to keep the door open until their extended families get in.
  11. It is odd that people like Frum spout this sort of nonsense, when it does seem clear that Trump actually genuinely likes most of his fellow Americans of all sorts of backgrounds and races.

    Myabe what is going on is that the never-Trumpers are so filled with hatred for the productive classes in our society — the people who actually physically keep the country going day by day — that they assume that their opponents must also be motivated by some sort of deep hatred.

    That there are large numbers of us who simply like most of our fellow citizens, rather than being filled with hatred (I don’t hate Hillary voters — I just disagree with them) seems to be beyond their comprehension.

    I met a woman last week who was a moderate liberal (and, I strongly suspect, a Hillary voter) but who works for some group out here in Sacramento that lobbies for farmers’ water rights. Her own parents despise her because, you see, she has “sold out” because she is helping the farmers hold on the their water at the expense of the delta smelt!

    She was very relieved when I explained that I know that water rights is a very complex legal and policy issue and that there are important arguments on both sides.

    Yet her own parents won’t extend her the same courtesy.

    The bad news is that there are too many people who think like her parents.

    The good news is that one by one people who consider themselves moderates or even liberals are being “red pilled” as they get tired of the fanaticism of the crazies.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @PhysicistDave

    What’s odd about it? Windmills are not actually Giants. Sucks when de siècle you bet your life on comes to a Fin.

    Replies: @anon

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @PhysicistDave

    Funny thing about water. People insist on believing that water is "wasted" when it runs out of a tap or down a drain.

    But no water is being destroyed or created. Just temporarily diverted through the human water system on the way to the same ocean it was going to anyway.

    And how many delta smelt do we really need anyway? Not many, I recon.

    Replies: @El Dato, @getaclue

  12. @Bill B.
    listening to John Mearsheimer say that when the USA tried to use its unipolar moment to force the world to turn liberal-democratic I am reminded that at this time the elites went bat-crazy in their enthusiasm for migration. Invade the world, invite the world.

    If, as Mearsheimer emphatically states, that moment is over and anyway revealed as ridiculous in concept, why hasn’t the open borders fad also faded. If all people’s do not want to live in liberal democracies then they can’t live together right?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eFtsg3jgH1Y

    Replies: @216, @Sean, @istevefan

    The Third World believes that they are entitled to immigration as reparations.

  13. @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @istevefan, @schnellandine, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Gaius Gracchus, @Alfa158, @Chet Bradley, @nebulafox, @Bardon Kaldian, @MEH 0910, @Clyde, @Realist, @Tlotsi, @Malcolm X-Lax, @J1234, @The Anti-Gnostic, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @22pp22, @MBB, @imbroglio, @Joe Schmoe, @Bradley

    ‘Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn’t give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week…’

    They’re welcome to not come. In fact, I for one would willingly help them leave.

    • Agree: kikz
  14. Did you ever wonder where white race’s capital was? Now you know! Thanks, Mr. Frum.

    • Replies: @Hail
    @inertial


    white race’s capital
     
    To stress a point:

    That Frum comment (Moscow as the capital of the White race) makes no sense if not understood in the terms Steve Sailer proposes.

    Replies: @newrouter, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Romanian
    @inertial

    I'd rather it was in Vienna or Geneva than in Moscow.

    Replies: @ben tillman

  15. istevefan says:
    @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @istevefan, @schnellandine, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Gaius Gracchus, @Alfa158, @Chet Bradley, @nebulafox, @Bardon Kaldian, @MEH 0910, @Clyde, @Realist, @Tlotsi, @Malcolm X-Lax, @J1234, @The Anti-Gnostic, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @22pp22, @MBB, @imbroglio, @Joe Schmoe, @Bradley

    My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan

    It’s a crime that the USA poached this man from a nation in more need of physicians than the US itself. Colonialism was wrong when rich nations stole other’s natural resources. It’s wrong today when they steal their human resources.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @istevefan

    Yeah but he's an incompetent surgeon. She neglected to mention. As such, he's much safer here in the USA where he'll be protected by Immigrant Privilege, rather than back in Pakistan where he'd be tortured and slaughtered by angry relatives of his deceased "patients".

    And if that's not an ironclad application for asylum I don't know what is.

  16. Anon[334] • Disclaimer says:

    There a hilarious ethnic food dustup on Twitter now. BBC and WaPo have articles on it. Professor tweets that Indian food is horrible, gets called a racist, and is dotsplained how restaurant Indian food isn’t Indian food to begin with. Then another professor tweets that Chinese food is sloppy, salty crap …

    I’m waiting for statements from the University presidents to be released. Maybe WE DEMAND manifestos from a student “coalition.” Demands for their firing. Or at least prevented from teaching required classes …

    • Replies: @Haruto Rat
    @Anon

    Gefilte fish ain't that great either.

    *runs, ducks, hides*

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Anon

    "dotsplained"

    I'll probably be using your term somewhere. Thanks. Also, Indian food is awful. It smells like perfume on a corpse. A chick talked me into it. She is no longer in my rolodex.

    , @Kolya Krassotkin
    @Anon

    "Dotsplained" - 😅 I'm stealing that.

    Although I like the flavors well enough, most Indian food is kind of gross. Traditionally it's heavily spiced to hide the smell of putrefaction and to kill any contaminating microorganisms, which thrive in India's warm, moist environment. Things are chopped and mixed together to hide the ingredients' blemishes.

  17. It’s interesting that Frum has been one of the loudest voices for immigration enforcement and limits that stresses that nations should strictly serve the interests of existing citizens not potential future citizens.

    Frum seems to have gone into this deranged rage over Trump that has persisted for years. Trump has really broken him.

    • Replies: @Pincher Martin
    @Massimo Heitor


    It’s interesting that Frum has been one of the loudest voices for immigration enforcement and limits that stresses that nations should strictly serve the interests of existing citizens not potential future citizens.
     
    That's not true.

    Frum has, over the three decades he has been in the public eye, occasionally mentioned restricting immigration, but he's certainly not been "one of the loudest voices for immigration enforcement and limits." His volume on the issue and his frequency talking about it have varied greatly. He's never been for immigration restriction, for example, to nearly the same degree he's been for Israel or against Trump.

    Replies: @chris moffatt

    , @Anonymous
    @Massimo Heitor


    stresses that nations should strictly serve the interests of existing citizens not potential future citizens.
     
    When has Frum ever said this?

    Replies: @SFG

    , @Art Deco
    @Massimo Heitor

    You kind of wonder if Frum's whole life is a species of cosplay. At this point, he's independently wealthy (and estate planning imperatives may have made him such well before the previous generation died) and his wife also comes from money; her family if not his were people of influence in Ontario. The two of them emigrated for whatever reason. He trained as a lawyer, then never practiced. He landed a job as an editorial writer at The Wall Street Journal, then landed a job in George Bush the Elder's PR apparat. Over the years, he's played a libertarian, a warrior contra Jihadis, a paladin of Rockefeller Republicanism (making the argument the Republicans were somehow obligated to embrace Obama administration policy tar babies because reasons), and now a NeverTrump fantasist. He's burned his bridges to a succession of people (some of whom a sensible person wouldn't have wanted to associate with, to be sure); he was cashiered by the 2d Bush administration, went out of his way to alienate the Rockford Institute and Peter Brimelow, cut ties with National Review, was sh!tcanned by the American Enterprise Institute (in a most embarrassing way, costing him friends), and was at one time the employer of one Alex Pareene (the controversy around which cost him more friends).

    Replies: @Prester John, @Massimo Heitor, @bjondo

  18. @Colin Wright
    This kind of lets the cat out of the bag about who the 'Neo-Cons' are and what their agenda is, doesn't it?

    Replies: @Barnard, @CrunchyButRealistCon, @The Anti-Gnostic, @gsjackson, @S. Anonyia

    Frum threw the mask in the trash a long time ago. This isn’t even particularly provocative for him.

  19. @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @istevefan, @schnellandine, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Gaius Gracchus, @Alfa158, @Chet Bradley, @nebulafox, @Bardon Kaldian, @MEH 0910, @Clyde, @Realist, @Tlotsi, @Malcolm X-Lax, @J1234, @The Anti-Gnostic, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @22pp22, @MBB, @imbroglio, @Joe Schmoe, @Bradley

    a Surgeon from Pakistan

    Isn’t that the most-requested attribute for people who need a surgeon?

    “I want to make sure the surgeon earned his bones in Pakistan, or at least Nigeria.”

    Instant suicide watch, I hear a friend say that.

  20. In other Tucker Carlson news, he had Scott Adams on his show tonight.

    In Adams’ segment, the two discussed who has more cult-like tendencies, core Trump supporters or Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers. Adams said definitely the latter.

    Now that Scott Adams is in, is Steve Sailer next?

    • Replies: @216
    @Hail

    The studio would be attacked by a leftist mob after the segment aired.

    Anyone with the SPLC tag is effectively an outlaw.

    , @Anonymous
    @Hail


    Now that Scott Adams is in, is Steve Sailer next?
     
    There are signs that Steve may finally be warming up to Trump.

    Replies: @Moses

    , @Polynikes
    @Hail

    Adams claims he is still classically liberal. But he’s made it clear for a while now that if the choice is the new coalition of the fringes and their sjw leaders vs Trump style populism, that he’d gladly take the latter.

    , @AndrewR
    @Hail

    It seems to be an even match.

    The vast majority of Trump's behavior is completely indefensible, and Trump himself has turned out to be the most incompetent president in history by orders of magnitude, yet he still has hordes of mindless fans who support him just to "own the libs."

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Hail

    Scott Adams carries the black mark of supporting Trump, but as far as I know he has never been accused of being racist, except insofar as supporting Trump is prima facia proof of racism.

    Replies: @Lot

    , @AnotherDad
    @Hail


    In Adams’ segment, the two discussed who has more cult-like tendencies, core Trump supporters or Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers. Adams said definitely the latter.

    Now that Scott Adams is in, is Steve Sailer next?
     
    Not sure i buy this "in" bit.

    This cult-like question is not remotely a close run thing. An objective observer can determine the correct answer even if he's opponent of Trump. That reality might indeed influence his political decision making about Trump, his re-election, but not necessarily.

    Replies: @Lot

    , @Matra
    @Hail

    Scott Adams has been all over MSM for decades. Since Trump's election I don't think you see him anymore on CNN or similar outlets but Fox having him on is no big deal.

    , @Antiwar7
    @Hail

    Scott shows some cult-like tendencies himself about China. Check out starting around 2:38 into this video of his: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UUYBW6OBSY

  21. Russians control the media so you know a guy like David Frum is never going to get a fair shake.

  22. He’s still calling it the Trumpocalypse? That’s pretty weird.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @songbird

    I was very much looking forward to Trumpocalypse Now. To have Him out there, operating without any decent restraint. Totally beyond the pale of acceptable human conduct. With His magapede army, who worship Him as a God, and follow any order no matter how ridiculous.

    "I watched America crawling on the edge of a straight razor. And believe me, that's my dream folks. Maybe it's even my nightmare. You never know. Crawling on the edge of a straight razor, and surviving. Because I'm a survivor folks, nobody better survives better than me, believe me."

    Replies: @Bill B., @Jack Henson, @Tex, @Sam Malone, @Sam Malone

  23. @Hail
    In other Tucker Carlson news, he had Scott Adams on his show tonight.

    In Adams' segment, the two discussed who has more cult-like tendencies, core Trump supporters or Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers. Adams said definitely the latter.

    Now that Scott Adams is in, is Steve Sailer next?

    Replies: @216, @Anonymous, @Polynikes, @AndrewR, @Harry Baldwin, @AnotherDad, @Matra, @Antiwar7

    The studio would be attacked by a leftist mob after the segment aired.

    Anyone with the SPLC tag is effectively an outlaw.

  24. Now that Scott Adams is in, is Steve Sailer next?

    Short answer : No.

  25. @Massimo Heitor
    It's interesting that Frum has been one of the loudest voices for immigration enforcement and limits that stresses that nations should strictly serve the interests of existing citizens not potential future citizens.

    Frum seems to have gone into this deranged rage over Trump that has persisted for years. Trump has really broken him.

    Replies: @Pincher Martin, @Anonymous, @Art Deco

    It’s interesting that Frum has been one of the loudest voices for immigration enforcement and limits that stresses that nations should strictly serve the interests of existing citizens not potential future citizens.

    That’s not true.

    Frum has, over the three decades he has been in the public eye, occasionally mentioned restricting immigration, but he’s certainly not been “one of the loudest voices for immigration enforcement and limits.” His volume on the issue and his frequency talking about it have varied greatly. He’s never been for immigration restriction, for example, to nearly the same degree he’s been for Israel or against Trump.

    • Replies: @chris moffatt
    @Pincher Martin

    David Frum is a loser from Toronto who couldn't make it in Canada despite riding his mother's coat tails. So he came to the USA where he's been making an idiot of himself ever since. If the USA had a coherent immigration policy he probably wouldn't be here.

    Replies: @utu, @Art Deco

  26. @Arclight
    Uh, David Frum is accusing someone else of loyalty to a multinational race with a capital located outside of the US?

    He is obviously baiting some of his audience....

    Replies: @Jack D, @bigdicknick, @Hypnotoad666, @fitzhamilton, @Lot

    jewish intelligence doesn’t extend to self awareness. It’s their achilles heel.

    • Agree: Daniel H
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @bigdicknick


    jewish intelligence doesn’t extend to self awareness. It’s their achilles heel.
     
    It’s a strength. A man who believes his own BS is more confident, more persuasive.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @bigdicknick, @I Have Scinde

    , @Billy Shears
    @bigdicknick

    Maybe in the long term it's an Achilles Heel but in the short term it helps their ideas spread.

    , @kikz
    @bigdicknick

    as tactic, even feigned lack of self-awareness in personal responsibility/culpability is quite useful for them.

    the original psychopathic dindu mindset.
    blame others for personal bad behaviors/outcomes, play victim, rend garments/wail of persecution/demand justice/reap advantage.
    sub routine/loop of hegelianism 101.

  27. @PhysicistDave
    It is odd that people like Frum spout this sort of nonsense, when it does seem clear that Trump actually genuinely likes most of his fellow Americans of all sorts of backgrounds and races.

    Myabe what is going on is that the never-Trumpers are so filled with hatred for the productive classes in our society -- the people who actually physically keep the country going day by day -- that they assume that their opponents must also be motivated by some sort of deep hatred.

    That there are large numbers of us who simply like most of our fellow citizens, rather than being filled with hatred (I don't hate Hillary voters -- I just disagree with them) seems to be beyond their comprehension.

    I met a woman last week who was a moderate liberal (and, I strongly suspect, a Hillary voter) but who works for some group out here in Sacramento that lobbies for farmers' water rights. Her own parents despise her because, you see, she has "sold out" because she is helping the farmers hold on the their water at the expense of the delta smelt!

    She was very relieved when I explained that I know that water rights is a very complex legal and policy issue and that there are important arguments on both sides.

    Yet her own parents won't extend her the same courtesy.

    The bad news is that there are too many people who think like her parents.

    The good news is that one by one people who consider themselves moderates or even liberals are being "red pilled" as they get tired of the fanaticism of the crazies.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Hypnotoad666

    What’s odd about it? Windmills are not actually Giants. Sucks when de siècle you bet your life on comes to a Fin.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Desiderius


    "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one." - Charles Mackay, author of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds
     

    Replies: @Desiderius

  28. @inertial
    Did you ever wonder where white race's capital was? Now you know! Thanks, Mr. Frum.

    Replies: @Hail, @Romanian

    white race’s capital

    To stress a point:

    That Frum comment (Moscow as the capital of the White race) makes no sense if not understood in the terms Steve Sailer proposes.

    • Replies: @newrouter
    @Hail

    >That Frum comment (Moscow as the capital of the White race)<

    What's Berlin chopped liver?

    Replies: @Flip

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Hail


    That Frum comment (Moscow as the capital of the White race) makes no sense if not understood in the terms Steve Sailer proposes.
     
    I'm disgusted. St Petersburg has a lot more class. And charm. And history.

    Let's put our capital there.

    Replies: @Hail, @Romanian

  29. @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @istevefan, @schnellandine, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Gaius Gracchus, @Alfa158, @Chet Bradley, @nebulafox, @Bardon Kaldian, @MEH 0910, @Clyde, @Realist, @Tlotsi, @Malcolm X-Lax, @J1234, @The Anti-Gnostic, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @22pp22, @MBB, @imbroglio, @Joe Schmoe, @Bradley

    Is that you again Tiny D*ck?

  30. @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @istevefan, @schnellandine, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Gaius Gracchus, @Alfa158, @Chet Bradley, @nebulafox, @Bardon Kaldian, @MEH 0910, @Clyde, @Realist, @Tlotsi, @Malcolm X-Lax, @J1234, @The Anti-Gnostic, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @22pp22, @MBB, @imbroglio, @Joe Schmoe, @Bradley

    It’s OK to be white.

    In fact, it’s great to be white. After all, so many Indian and Pakistani women use whitening creams! They can’t all be wrong!

  31. This must be Frum’s encore to his notorious 2003 “Unpatriotic Conservatives” piece.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2003/03/unpatriotic-conservatives-david-frum/

    • LOL: Unladen Swallow
    • Replies: @anonynous
    @JohnnyD

    Yeah, I remember that worst ever NR David Frum hit piece. It confirmed my worst suspicions that American mainstream conservatism had been taken over by Neo Trotsky Zionist Neo Conservatives who were doing what the Stalinist once did to them:

    Purge anyone that opposed their total power.

    What kind of real American conservatism is indifferent to the mass migrant invasion of our country , of the forced change of our country from a once stable, happy and prosperous 1st world European American country in to .... 3rd world slums of drugs, disease and despair? What kind of Conservative American heading the leading Conservative magazine with "National" in their magazine name, what kind of honest Conservative simply doesn't care about defending our nation, doing real "National Defense"? And then this same type demands we jump in to every single Middle East tribal, Islamic sectarian conflict and just, forment anarchy and mass slaughter in any kind near Israel.

  32. @Desiderius
    @PhysicistDave

    What’s odd about it? Windmills are not actually Giants. Sucks when de siècle you bet your life on comes to a Fin.

    Replies: @anon

    “Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.” – Charles Mackay, author of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @anon

    Yarvin concurs:

    https://americanmind.org/essays/the-clear-pill-part-2-of-5-a-theory-of-pervasive-error/

    See also:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._Mackay

  33. Given that David Frum is from Canada, one might accuse him of triple loyalty.

    Nah, who am I kidding. It’s still just one loyalty.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Mr. Anon


    Given that David Frum is from Canada, one might accuse him of triple loyalty.

    Nah, who am I kidding. It’s still just one loyalty.
     
    Triple loyalty would be an improvement.
    , @Redneck farmer
    @Mr. Anon

    It took 33 comments to get to the point Frum is A STINKING FOREIGNER?

    , @anonynous
    @Mr. Anon

    But is really "loyalty" to any country, to any people, to any... well, anything?

    Isn't it more obsessions with hating other countries, other peoples, hating most everything, being paranoid, thinking everyone is out to get you and when these hatreds become and open, noticed obsession and when these hateful people start to dominate the American mainstream media, dominate Conservative inc media, be the leading speech writers for supposedly Conservative American US presidents writing insane, violent speeches like the worst ever "Axis of Evil" speech, then, doesn't it become a self fulfilling prophesy that regular people who are loyal to their countries, loyal to their families, their communities their people will notice these other hateful people and well, want to at least resist them.

  34. @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @istevefan, @schnellandine, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Gaius Gracchus, @Alfa158, @Chet Bradley, @nebulafox, @Bardon Kaldian, @MEH 0910, @Clyde, @Realist, @Tlotsi, @Malcolm X-Lax, @J1234, @The Anti-Gnostic, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @22pp22, @MBB, @imbroglio, @Joe Schmoe, @Bradley

    You are welcome to move off to your husband’s blessed Pakistan if you don’t like it here.

    You, in a single post, validated opinions that immigration for the last century has been a bad idea.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin, Kylie
    • Replies: @Sherry Khan
    @Gaius Gracchus

    I am an American and so are my husband and Children.
    Who on this earth are you to tell me about where I should move?
    Racist and Disgusting what you just said

    Replies: @SFG, @ThreeCranes, @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @William Badwhite, @OilcanFloyd, @J.Ross, @Gaius Gracchus, @Daniel Chieh, @Kylie, @Joe Schmoe

  35. @Hail
    @inertial


    white race’s capital
     
    To stress a point:

    That Frum comment (Moscow as the capital of the White race) makes no sense if not understood in the terms Steve Sailer proposes.

    Replies: @newrouter, @Reg Cæsar

    >That Frum comment (Moscow as the capital of the White race)<

    What's Berlin chopped liver?

    • Replies: @Flip
    @newrouter

    I vote for Copenhagen. Christian IX's descendants ruled over Europe.

  36. Looks like a little projection coming Frum David.

    If only we could point to scriptures where God says something like, “To your Posterity I give this land, from St. Petersburg to Sochi, from Moscow to the great river Volga, beyond the Ural Mountains and across the Siberian Plain.”

    Something like that, and then if there were stories about how He would protect us. Oh, and something like this too:

    Isaiah 60:12 – For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish; yea, [those] nations shall be utterly wasted.

    Yeah. That would be nice.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Isaiah 60:16 --

    Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings[.]

    Replies: @HammerJack

  37. @Colin Wright
    This kind of lets the cat out of the bag about who the 'Neo-Cons' are and what their agenda is, doesn't it?

    Replies: @Barnard, @CrunchyButRealistCon, @The Anti-Gnostic, @gsjackson, @S. Anonyia

    “The Cossacks are coming ! The Cossacks!….”

  38. @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @istevefan, @schnellandine, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Gaius Gracchus, @Alfa158, @Chet Bradley, @nebulafox, @Bardon Kaldian, @MEH 0910, @Clyde, @Realist, @Tlotsi, @Malcolm X-Lax, @J1234, @The Anti-Gnostic, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @22pp22, @MBB, @imbroglio, @Joe Schmoe, @Bradley

    It’s OK folks, this is Tiny Duck again. Somebody tipped him off on how to post comments using multiple handles and fictitious e-mails.
    Notice that he gave us the old TD wink and a nod to let us know he’s still on the job by planting his trademark little mis-spellings.

    • Disagree: Unladen Swallow
    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    @Alfa158

    Meant to post AGREE, disregard disagree

  39. @Arclight
    Uh, David Frum is accusing someone else of loyalty to a multinational race with a capital located outside of the US?

    He is obviously baiting some of his audience....

    Replies: @Jack D, @bigdicknick, @Hypnotoad666, @fitzhamilton, @Lot

    So Tucker is an International WASP.

    Also, don’t forget Tulsi and her Hawaiian-Samoan white supremacist pant suit.

    • Agree: Lot
  40. Frum likes endless US wars because they kill or maim mostly young white Christian men. President Bloomberg starting a war with Russia would be a twofer, since every death in that conflict would be a white Christian.

  41. Anonymous[390] • Disclaimer says:

    Frum is not high IQ. Smarter than Podhoretz.

    Frum’s assertions are consistently dumb. Moscow as white race capital? The whitest Russians usually have significant Asian admixture. They are Eurasians, Asiatics.

    Putin’s face is actually exotic by western standards. Not the face of an Englishman. His 23 and Me results would be filled with weird Turkic artifacts and maybe even some Genghis Khan remnants etc. But I’m sure Frum thinks Putin = WASP.

    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Anonymous

    True, there are plenty of Stormfronter and other racial purist types who believe that Russians aren’t white.

    , @El Dato
    @Anonymous

    Quite possibly.

    Those people have the depth-of-reasoning of a Nazi functionary grown fat on Weimar Republic processed meat products.

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Anonymous

    "Moscow as white race capital?"

    President Blumpf! has driven these people insane. Looking through their feverish lens, Moscow is the capital of Whiteness and a branch of Christianity that rejects Western Luciferianism. Plus, the Russian threat must be continuously propagated for Imperial cohesion because the Chinese threat, which contains some validity, has to be downplayed because favored plutocrats have made a fortune in China.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    , @Romanian
    @Anonymous

    Moscow has the largest Muslim population among European capitals. Putin recently inaugurated a very big mosque.

    They are a multiracial empire, not just a simple empire of multiple European ethnicities. People who make it out to be some kind of racial Camelot are deluding themselves.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Art Deco, @Cutler

  42. @Massimo Heitor
    It's interesting that Frum has been one of the loudest voices for immigration enforcement and limits that stresses that nations should strictly serve the interests of existing citizens not potential future citizens.

    Frum seems to have gone into this deranged rage over Trump that has persisted for years. Trump has really broken him.

    Replies: @Pincher Martin, @Anonymous, @Art Deco

    stresses that nations should strictly serve the interests of existing citizens not potential future citizens.

    When has Frum ever said this?

    • Replies: @SFG
    @Anonymous

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/04/david-frum-how-much-immigration-is-too-much/583252/

    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/22/705729699/the-atlantic-if-liberals-wont-enforce-borders-fascists-will

  43. @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @istevefan, @schnellandine, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Gaius Gracchus, @Alfa158, @Chet Bradley, @nebulafox, @Bardon Kaldian, @MEH 0910, @Clyde, @Realist, @Tlotsi, @Malcolm X-Lax, @J1234, @The Anti-Gnostic, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @22pp22, @MBB, @imbroglio, @Joe Schmoe, @Bradley

    Hi Tiny, how’s the new alias? Did you transition fully?

  44. @Hail
    In other Tucker Carlson news, he had Scott Adams on his show tonight.

    In Adams' segment, the two discussed who has more cult-like tendencies, core Trump supporters or Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers. Adams said definitely the latter.

    Now that Scott Adams is in, is Steve Sailer next?

    Replies: @216, @Anonymous, @Polynikes, @AndrewR, @Harry Baldwin, @AnotherDad, @Matra, @Antiwar7

    Now that Scott Adams is in, is Steve Sailer next?

    There are signs that Steve may finally be warming up to Trump.

    • Replies: @Moses
    @Anonymous


    There are signs that Steve may finally be warming up to Trump.
     
    There are signs that Steve may finally be warming to a lot of things.
  45. @PhysicistDave
    It is odd that people like Frum spout this sort of nonsense, when it does seem clear that Trump actually genuinely likes most of his fellow Americans of all sorts of backgrounds and races.

    Myabe what is going on is that the never-Trumpers are so filled with hatred for the productive classes in our society -- the people who actually physically keep the country going day by day -- that they assume that their opponents must also be motivated by some sort of deep hatred.

    That there are large numbers of us who simply like most of our fellow citizens, rather than being filled with hatred (I don't hate Hillary voters -- I just disagree with them) seems to be beyond their comprehension.

    I met a woman last week who was a moderate liberal (and, I strongly suspect, a Hillary voter) but who works for some group out here in Sacramento that lobbies for farmers' water rights. Her own parents despise her because, you see, she has "sold out" because she is helping the farmers hold on the their water at the expense of the delta smelt!

    She was very relieved when I explained that I know that water rights is a very complex legal and policy issue and that there are important arguments on both sides.

    Yet her own parents won't extend her the same courtesy.

    The bad news is that there are too many people who think like her parents.

    The good news is that one by one people who consider themselves moderates or even liberals are being "red pilled" as they get tired of the fanaticism of the crazies.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Hypnotoad666

    Funny thing about water. People insist on believing that water is “wasted” when it runs out of a tap or down a drain.

    But no water is being destroyed or created. Just temporarily diverted through the human water system on the way to the same ocean it was going to anyway.

    And how many delta smelt do we really need anyway? Not many, I recon.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Hypnotoad666

    Well, it's "wasted" in the sense that it takes energy, time and a VERY extensive VERY maintainance-heavy infrastructure to get it back up those 10 cm from the tap to the sink.

    Tap water does not have zero cost.

    Because People of Color Disproportionately Fail to Pay Their Water Bills in 33% White Chicago, New Black Mayor Stops Shutoffs for Nonpayment... Costs City $20 Million

    Replies: @Neuday

    , @getaclue
    @Hypnotoad666

    I believe its like a bait fish...the "conservation" efforts have contributed heavily to the wild fires I have read....Let's all follow Cali to the Loony bin....

  46. @Buzz Mohawk
    Looks like a little projection coming Frum David.

    If only we could point to scriptures where God says something like, "To your Posterity I give this land, from St. Petersburg to Sochi, from Moscow to the great river Volga, beyond the Ural Mountains and across the Siberian Plain."

    Something like that, and then if there were stories about how He would protect us. Oh, and something like this too:


    Isaiah 60:12 - For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish; yea, [those] nations shall be utterly wasted.
     
    Yeah. That would be nice.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    Isaiah 60:16 —

    Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings[.]

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @ben tillman

    Is there any substantial part of the Old Testament that is not completely psychotic?

    Replies: @Hibernian, @ben tillman

  47. @Alfa158
    @Sherry Khan

    It’s OK folks, this is Tiny Duck again. Somebody tipped him off on how to post comments using multiple handles and fictitious e-mails.
    Notice that he gave us the old TD wink and a nod to let us know he’s still on the job by planting his trademark little mis-spellings.

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow

    Meant to post AGREE, disregard disagree

  48. @songbird
    He's still calling it the Trumpocalypse? That's pretty weird.

    Replies: @BenKenobi

    I was very much looking forward to Trumpocalypse Now. To have Him out there, operating without any decent restraint. Totally beyond the pale of acceptable human conduct. With His magapede army, who worship Him as a God, and follow any order no matter how ridiculous.

    “I watched America crawling on the edge of a straight razor. And believe me, that’s my dream folks. Maybe it’s even my nightmare. You never know. Crawling on the edge of a straight razor, and surviving. Because I’m a survivor folks, nobody better survives better than me, believe me.”

    • LOL: songbird, Moses
    • Replies: @Bill B.
    @BenKenobi


    "He cried in a whisper at some image, at some vision—he cried out twice, a cry that was no more than a breath:

    'The horror! The horror!'"
     
    , @Jack Henson
    @BenKenobi

    "The saddest thing from poet's pen
    Are the words : what could have been "

    , @Tex
    @BenKenobi


    I was very much looking forward to Trumpocalypse Now. To have Him out there, operating without any decent restraint. Totally beyond the pale of acceptable human conduct. With His magapede army, who worship Him as a God, and follow any order no matter how ridiculous.
     
    I picture the St. Patrick Klavern from the Lower East Side at the front of the horde.
    , @Sam Malone
    @BenKenobi

    ha!!

    , @Sam Malone
    @BenKenobi

    very funny! I want to see that movie.

  49. Multiracial? Frum is from Toronto, which he left. They claim to be the most multiracial city on earth.

    Not that anyone is competing for the title.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Reg Cæsar


    Not that anyone is competing for the title.
     
    Not that other cities' residents are competing for it. Rulers can't get enough diversity.
  50. “The multiracial American nation and its Capital in Washington”

    The ancients actually believed the soul was situated in the heart.

    The tweeting, modern “intelligentsia” with a bad case of office gangrène actually believe the soul is situated in the swamp.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
    @El Dato

    "The ancients actually believed the soul was situated in the heart."

    And if they'd met Frum, they would have concluded that his brains were in his ass.

  51. @Anonymous
    Message to David Frum. Long live the Palestinians, and the US must stop favoring Jewish supremacists over Palestinian resisters.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Jesse, @Art Deco

    Long live the Palestinians

    This one will live long, at our expense:

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar


    This one will live long, at our expense:

     

    This one too:

    https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106034809-1563895146580rtx70l1y.jpg

     

    , @Not Raul
    @Reg Cæsar

    That traitor is a Saudi asset.

  52. @Hypnotoad666
    @PhysicistDave

    Funny thing about water. People insist on believing that water is "wasted" when it runs out of a tap or down a drain.

    But no water is being destroyed or created. Just temporarily diverted through the human water system on the way to the same ocean it was going to anyway.

    And how many delta smelt do we really need anyway? Not many, I recon.

    Replies: @El Dato, @getaclue

    Well, it’s “wasted” in the sense that it takes energy, time and a VERY extensive VERY maintainance-heavy infrastructure to get it back up those 10 cm from the tap to the sink.

    Tap water does not have zero cost.

    Because People of Color Disproportionately Fail to Pay Their Water Bills in 33% White Chicago, New Black Mayor Stops Shutoffs for Nonpayment… Costs City $20 Million

    • Replies: @Neuday
    @El Dato

    Water is a human right, and America will provide water for everyone who can make it here, and all their descendants. Paying a Water bill is supporting an oppressive white supremacy power structure.

    In other words, "gibsmedat".

  53. Can somebody explain to me, how exactly, this dual loyalty of shouty American chauvinists and a foreign power is supposed to be mediated?

    Can somebody ask the David Frums of the world to tell us?

    • Replies: @Moses
    @Altai


    Can somebody explain to me, how exactly, this dual loyalty of shouty American chauvinists and a foreign power is supposed to be mediated?
     
    Oh, there is no conflict re: dual loyalty, believe me. They are loyal to one group only.

    Replies: @utu

  54. @bigdicknick
    @Arclight

    jewish intelligence doesn't extend to self awareness. It's their achilles heel.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Billy Shears, @kikz

    jewish intelligence doesn’t extend to self awareness. It’s their achilles heel.

    It’s a strength. A man who believes his own BS is more confident, more persuasive.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Anonymous

    It’s a 19th Amendment world. You’ve got to win the con game before you can do anything else.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @bigdicknick
    @Anonymous

    It's a strength until its not. Not many ethnic groups have been kicked out of a hundred different countries.

    , @I Have Scinde
    @Anonymous

    Certainly, this is true in baseball, as in "Bull Durham:"
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a2mi4SR0Uzc

  55. Frum doesn’t explain why I should prefer his axis to the other guy’s. Putin has never said he hates white men.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @22pp22

    "Ain't no gook ever called me boy"

    "Ain't no Russian ever called me a racist nazi"

    Replies: @Hibernian

  56. @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @istevefan, @schnellandine, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Gaius Gracchus, @Alfa158, @Chet Bradley, @nebulafox, @Bardon Kaldian, @MEH 0910, @Clyde, @Realist, @Tlotsi, @Malcolm X-Lax, @J1234, @The Anti-Gnostic, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @22pp22, @MBB, @imbroglio, @Joe Schmoe, @Bradley

    “My fellow white people”

    Ohs Turcluckens…

  57. @Anonymous
    @bigdicknick


    jewish intelligence doesn’t extend to self awareness. It’s their achilles heel.
     
    It’s a strength. A man who believes his own BS is more confident, more persuasive.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @bigdicknick, @I Have Scinde

    It’s a 19th Amendment world. You’ve got to win the con game before you can do anything else.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Desiderius


    It’s a 19th Amendment world.
     
    What do you mean by this?

    Replies: @Lot, @Flip

  58. @Hail
    @inertial


    white race’s capital
     
    To stress a point:

    That Frum comment (Moscow as the capital of the White race) makes no sense if not understood in the terms Steve Sailer proposes.

    Replies: @newrouter, @Reg Cæsar

    That Frum comment (Moscow as the capital of the White race) makes no sense if not understood in the terms Steve Sailer proposes.

    I’m disgusted. St Petersburg has a lot more class. And charm. And history.

    Let’s put our capital there.

    • Replies: @Hail
    @Reg Cæsar

    Winter capital: St. Petersburg, Florida.


    American Style magazine ranked St. Petersburg its top mid-size city in 2011, citing its "vibrant" arts scene
     
    Uh oh.

    Replies: @Dtbb

    , @Romanian
    @Reg Cæsar

    Rome, the Eternal City. Why have the third Rome, when you can have the first!

  59. @Arclight
    Uh, David Frum is accusing someone else of loyalty to a multinational race with a capital located outside of the US?

    He is obviously baiting some of his audience....

    Replies: @Jack D, @bigdicknick, @Hypnotoad666, @fitzhamilton, @Lot

    It’s amusing how much of our political strum and drang these days is (to use a nice, Freudian term) simply psychological projection, accusing others what you are guilty of.

    We tend to assume others have the same inner life, and are operating from the same motives as ourselves.

    You tend to accuse others of what you yourself feel guilty of, after all.

    This tweet from Frum is a classic example. He’s accusing Tucker Carlson of exactly what he is doing.

    So too is the “Russia Gate” nonsense. The American intelligence community accuses Russia of interfering with our elections.. This is coming from the same bunch (with Hillary Clinton’s direction) that overthrew the Honduran government in 2009 and sent the elected president into exile.. Who just recently drove Evo Morales out of power in Bolivia.. Who are trying to overthrow the elected governments of Iran and Venezuela (whom they claim are undemocratic, but in fact have limited democracies seriously circumscribed and limited by elites, with highly controlled elections just like we have here).. Who are trying to destabilize the Syrian and Chinese government.. Who overthrew the democratically elected Allende in Chile and Mossadegh in Iran.. High test hypocrisy, blatant projection.

    These same people warned us all that Russia was about to subvert our democracy and overthrow our government back in 2016. Bad conscience over how they turned Boris Yeltsin into their puppet and raped Russia back in the 90’s perhaps?

    They accuse Russia of mounting a psyops campaign to pollute our discourse, manipulate our public narrative and influence our elections, while doing exactly the same thing themselves constantly, everywhere internationally, and even (especially) in the United States itself. Classic projection.

    Hillary Clinton accuses Trump of Russian collusion, this from the same woman who negotiated the Uranium One Deal with Russia in 2010 after she and Bill and their eponymous foundation received millions of dollars from Russian sources and others benefiting from the deal. Ah, such sweet, sweet projection.

    They accuse Trump of profiting from his office through housing government employees and foreign visitors at his hotels, and thus selling his influence to corporate and foreign supplicants who bribe him indirectly through such stays.. This after themselves taking speaking honorariums and “donations” in the hundreds of millions from corporations and foreign powers. While Hunter Biden sits on foreign corporate boards in countries interested in culling his father’s influence, collecting millions of dollars.. More glorious projection.

    The Babylonian Talmud warns: “Do not taunt your neighbour with the blemish you yourself have.”

    David Frum ought to take those words to heart. Zionists accusing any one of multinational ethnocentric fascism ought to think about what is happening in Gaza and the West Bank the take a good long look in the mirror. This is violence is committed in the name of sustaining a state created to prevent a second holocaust. Jewish victimhood justifies Jewish victimization of others. This is projection made simply sublime.

    As one Jew once challenged his co-religionists:

    “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.”

    Yom Kippur rolls around annually. Maybe David might take it seriously next year.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @fitzhamilton


    political strum and drang
     
    Guitars have no place in politics. Or church.

    Take them back to the flamenco floor, where they belong.
    , @Anonymous
    @fitzhamilton


    The Babylonian Talmud warns: “Do not taunt your neighbour with the blemish you yourself have.”
     
    Good quote! Where can one obtain a good copy of the Babylonian Talmud in English?
    , @Steve in Greensboro
    @fitzhamilton

    Or as the Old Romans said (at least according to Robert Graves in "I, Claudius"), "cripples do not mock cripples".

  60. @fitzhamilton
    @Arclight

    It's amusing how much of our political strum and drang these days is (to use a nice, Freudian term) simply psychological projection, accusing others what you are guilty of.

    We tend to assume others have the same inner life, and are operating from the same motives as ourselves.

    You tend to accuse others of what you yourself feel guilty of, after all.

    This tweet from Frum is a classic example. He's accusing Tucker Carlson of exactly what he is doing.

    So too is the "Russia Gate" nonsense. The American intelligence community accuses Russia of interfering with our elections.. This is coming from the same bunch (with Hillary Clinton's direction) that overthrew the Honduran government in 2009 and sent the elected president into exile.. Who just recently drove Evo Morales out of power in Bolivia.. Who are trying to overthrow the elected governments of Iran and Venezuela (whom they claim are undemocratic, but in fact have limited democracies seriously circumscribed and limited by elites, with highly controlled elections just like we have here).. Who are trying to destabilize the Syrian and Chinese government.. Who overthrew the democratically elected Allende in Chile and Mossadegh in Iran.. High test hypocrisy, blatant projection.

    These same people warned us all that Russia was about to subvert our democracy and overthrow our government back in 2016. Bad conscience over how they turned Boris Yeltsin into their puppet and raped Russia back in the 90's perhaps?

    They accuse Russia of mounting a psyops campaign to pollute our discourse, manipulate our public narrative and influence our elections, while doing exactly the same thing themselves constantly, everywhere internationally, and even (especially) in the United States itself. Classic projection.

    Hillary Clinton accuses Trump of Russian collusion, this from the same woman who negotiated the Uranium One Deal with Russia in 2010 after she and Bill and their eponymous foundation received millions of dollars from Russian sources and others benefiting from the deal. Ah, such sweet, sweet projection.

    They accuse Trump of profiting from his office through housing government employees and foreign visitors at his hotels, and thus selling his influence to corporate and foreign supplicants who bribe him indirectly through such stays.. This after themselves taking speaking honorariums and "donations" in the hundreds of millions from corporations and foreign powers. While Hunter Biden sits on foreign corporate boards in countries interested in culling his father's influence, collecting millions of dollars.. More glorious projection.

    The Babylonian Talmud warns: "Do not taunt your neighbour with the blemish you yourself have."

    David Frum ought to take those words to heart. Zionists accusing any one of multinational ethnocentric fascism ought to think about what is happening in Gaza and the West Bank the take a good long look in the mirror. This is violence is committed in the name of sustaining a state created to prevent a second holocaust. Jewish victimhood justifies Jewish victimization of others. This is projection made simply sublime.

    As one Jew once challenged his co-religionists:

    "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."

    Yom Kippur rolls around annually. Maybe David might take it seriously next year.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Steve in Greensboro

    political strum and drang

    Guitars have no place in politics. Or church.

    Take them back to the flamenco floor, where they belong.

  61. @Mr. Anon
    Given that David Frum is from Canada, one might accuse him of triple loyalty.

    Nah, who am I kidding. It's still just one loyalty.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Redneck farmer, @anonynous

    Given that David Frum is from Canada, one might accuse him of triple loyalty.

    Nah, who am I kidding. It’s still just one loyalty.

    Triple loyalty would be an improvement.

  62. @Desiderius
    @Anonymous

    It’s a 19th Amendment world. You’ve got to win the con game before you can do anything else.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    It’s a 19th Amendment world.

    What do you mean by this?

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Anonymous

    We should have kept the franchise more limited, following the wisdom of the Founders and other early successful democracies.

    Best run nation in the West, Switzerland, also was the last to adopt bisexual voting.

    Replies: @Jesse, @Anonymous

    , @Flip
    @Anonymous

    Ruled by emotion rather than logic

    Replies: @Anonymous

  63. @Arclight
    Uh, David Frum is accusing someone else of loyalty to a multinational race with a capital located outside of the US?

    He is obviously baiting some of his audience....

    Replies: @Jack D, @bigdicknick, @Hypnotoad666, @fitzhamilton, @Lot

    “ He is obviously baiting some of his audience….”

    He probably thought calling Tucker cosmopolitan would make it too obvious.

  64. @Anonymous
    @Desiderius


    It’s a 19th Amendment world.
     
    What do you mean by this?

    Replies: @Lot, @Flip

    We should have kept the franchise more limited, following the wisdom of the Founders and other early successful democracies.

    Best run nation in the West, Switzerland, also was the last to adopt bisexual voting.

    • Replies: @Jesse
    @Lot

    Great. Now talk about restricting the vote based on race. You wouldn't dare.

    This, folks, is why the far right will never win. It's full of white men talking smack about women as a way of avoiding talking about racial issues, and expecting praise for their bravery.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @kihowi, @AnotherDad, @Alden

    , @Anonymous
    @Lot


    We should have kept the franchise more limited,
     
    Why though? What is your argument in support it doing that? And what does women voting have to do with a “con game,” as the other commenter?

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Lot

  65. @BenKenobi
    @songbird

    I was very much looking forward to Trumpocalypse Now. To have Him out there, operating without any decent restraint. Totally beyond the pale of acceptable human conduct. With His magapede army, who worship Him as a God, and follow any order no matter how ridiculous.

    "I watched America crawling on the edge of a straight razor. And believe me, that's my dream folks. Maybe it's even my nightmare. You never know. Crawling on the edge of a straight razor, and surviving. Because I'm a survivor folks, nobody better survives better than me, believe me."

    Replies: @Bill B., @Jack Henson, @Tex, @Sam Malone, @Sam Malone

    “He cried in a whisper at some image, at some vision—he cried out twice, a cry that was no more than a breath:

    ‘The horror! The horror!’”

  66. @Anonymous
    Message to David Frum. Long live the Palestinians, and the US must stop favoring Jewish supremacists over Palestinian resisters.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Jesse, @Art Deco

    Oh. My. GOD. Who the hell cares?

    The criticism that the pro Israel side is sublimating their love of race on a tiny rat hole in the ME has some validity.

    But so does the other side. There is literally no reason to side with a bunch of random Muslims (who, BTW, are doing to us what they whine about the Israelis doing to them) other than cowardice. You’re angry at the Jewish elites in the West, but too terrified of them to go after them directly. So you sublimate it on a conflict that has nothing to do with you.

    (And don’t give me that bull about “all that money” going to Israel. The US subsidizes and takes orders from many, many countries and groups. Somehow, none of them stir up this level of rage. Somehow.)

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    @Jesse

    I agree 100%. Of course, the Palestinians are the victims, but it isn't my fight. And I care even less because Muslims generally side with Jews against the majorities once they are in the West. As far as I'm concerned, both groups should be bottled up in the ME.

    I also resent the ever-expanding ethnic food/products aisles in my local stores, since I they infringe on my ability to buy things that I have bought for decades, that are now available only online.

    , @nebulafox
    @Jesse

    >Oh. My. GOD. Who the hell cares?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXT9YG0FVUU

    Yes, sir! Somebody who gets it! That a superpower might, just might have better things to do than emotionally invest itself in Semitic squabbling over inheritance issues!

    Seriously, leave them to it. Nothing good ever comes out of that part of the world.

    , @Anon
    @Jesse


    But so does the other side.
     
    What "other side"? Just like the Jews wish to take the world from non-Jewish Whites, the Jews have zero entitlement argument with us. No one forgets their continuing subversion that costs us more every year. Our enemies are entitled to zero empathy for their interests. Moreovever the Bible is a fake set of political myths and their supposed "other side" rests on those myths as justification for the land. Their side doesn't exist. Muslim benefit or no Muslim benefit. The Jews are far, far more dangerous as their texts demand slavery / slaughter of all non-jews and they have the IQ, ability to conceal themselves, and political organization to flirt with success in comparison with any Muslim group.
    , @Joe Schmoe
    @Jesse


    There is literally no reason to side with a bunch of random Muslims
     
    No kidding.

    there is also no reason to side with a bunch of random losers and some tech workers from around the world against the country that has been very good to Jews. The folks who founded America owed Jews nothing, yet gave them a decent deal despite their being of a different religion, etc. Most Jews are regular nice people and good citizens. We all like them, but some of the scum in media and academia, celebrities etc., do promote anti white Christian policies.
  67. @Lot
    @Anonymous

    We should have kept the franchise more limited, following the wisdom of the Founders and other early successful democracies.

    Best run nation in the West, Switzerland, also was the last to adopt bisexual voting.

    Replies: @Jesse, @Anonymous

    Great. Now talk about restricting the vote based on race. You wouldn’t dare.

    This, folks, is why the far right will never win. It’s full of white men talking smack about women as a way of avoiding talking about racial issues, and expecting praise for their bravery.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Jesse

    I would.

    But I'm not even right, let alone far right. I'm not talking smack about my women at all. Love 'em to death. Women of the time were largely opposed to the 19th Amendment - it was the vanity of men that led them to believe that women long to emulate them.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar

    , @kihowi
    @Jesse

    Stop looking at that 50%! What influence could they have? This 15% over here is much more interesting!"

    BTW, you'll find that the "far right" talks about restricting the vote based on race all the time. Don't just make stuff up because you're angry.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Jesse


    Great. Now talk about restricting the vote based on race. You wouldn’t dare.

    This, folks, is why the far right will never win. It’s full of white men talking smack about women as a way of avoiding talking about racial issues, and expecting praise for their bravery.
     

    Jesse, i agree with you to some extent on the immediate politics. Women's suffrage should not be the focus of the alt-right propaganda. Aggressively countering minoritarianism and "nation of immigrants"ism" is so overwhelmingly critical that everything else reduces to almost background noise.

    But please try and look beyond your wounded "women!" pride and grapple with both the observed social reality that these guys are trying to address and their arguments logically. (This is what men like to do--figure out what's going on, think about it, analyze it, toss out ideas/solutions.)

    Sex is not race. The two are fundamentally different divisions and need to be addressed differently.

    The logical test--the sanity test--for any nation's or civilization's political arrangements:

    "Does the nation's political arrangements preserve that nation on down through future ages?"

    This sort of test is why the whole "nation of immigrants"--immigration forever--ideology is openly genocidal. Unless your plan is something like Caribbean sugar plantation slavery, where you are continually working that endless stream of immigrants to death ... then "nation of immigrants" *must* mean the replacement/destruction of the founding stock. Mathematically immigration forever means first no whole person, then no chromosome, finally no allele will remain of the founding stock. Heck not just the "founding stock" but of people in the nation right now! It's openly actual national genocide. (The saving grace, of course is that it can't happen. The nation becomes so crowded and shitty that at some point the immigration stops.)

    Voting systems are subject to the same sort of sanity test. Do they produce policies that preserve the nation, enhance its future and prospects for long term survival?

    Objectively, both ethnic liberalism and women's suffrage have failed to do that, but have allowed hostile anti-national forces to gain the upper hand.

    But again, sex is not race. The solutions are not the same.

    The solution for racial/ethnic division is separate nations.

    We have a few--at least couple--groups who are clearly hostile to core white America:
    If the majority--or even a large group--of blacks really thinks their problems are due to "white privilege" or "structural racism", they should either head back to Africa or just separate and form their own black nation which will not have these issues. Likewise, we have a small--but extremely vocal and influential--Jewish contingent which is deeply hostile to the norms, values, culture of flyover white gentiles. Those Jews should leave us alone and leave--to Israel for those who want to be Jews or to a separate minoritarian mulitcultural rainbow "nation". (Yeah, a minoritarian "nation" is a contradiction--really it will be an authoritarian kritarchic empire.)

    However, sex is not separable. Men and women are complementary. It is our sexual union that fuels the nation and propels it into the future. Regarding sex, the question is what sort of social and political arrangements around sex preserve and protect the nation. To any objective observer a bunch of the current ones--both involving divorce/custody/support and women's suffrage--are failing the test. They are not working to preserve the nation, but to tear it down. Women can go all "i am woman hear me roar" and bitch and moan about their rights (to vote, to loot their ex or soon to be ex). But the reality remains. The current "liberated" arrangements have led to failing nations.

    My take is there are some "sex neutral" fixes, that can help reign in, discipline the female id and restore some countering male authority.

    -- End divorce rape. No alimony; default joint custody and no "child support". (Both parties have and support their children half time.) There are a host of other policies that could be enacted to support marriage and fertility--"affordable family formation". To big a discussion for right here.

    -- A family vote. Men and women do not vote individually. Only intact families--father, mother and biological children--who are productive, self-supporting get a "family vote". Both the husband and wife must sign off on it or they do not vote.

    ~~

    But again the point here is not that you have to agree with my or anyone's "alt-right" suggestions, but at least be willing to engage with the--to me obvious--point that female suffrage/liberation has been destructive to the West, Western nations. Or if you don't agree, offer some coherent counter-narrative for why observed female behavior/voting is not really the problem it appears to be.

    , @Alden
    @Jesse

    I’ve noticed that. I, a woman is the only person who consistently and constantly writes about the thing most detrimental to our race; affirmative action.

    The men just rant about hair color, feminazis obesity tattoos. They blame all our problems on the feminazis who suddenly appeared about 1972 instead of the White male judges presidents Vice Presidents congress critter’s senators activists and attorneys who effected the judicial rulings and laws that are destroying us.

    1956 Brown vs Topeka followed by numerous school bussing judicial orders.

    1961, Kennedy’s affirmative action EO 10925,

    1964 civil rights act,

    1965 unlimited non White immigration act

    1967 affirmative action Philadelphia Plan

    1968 affirmative action federal law

    1968 EEOC gestapo agency to enforce the No Whites Need Apply Law.

    197o Nixon creates the affirmative action Hispanic race by executive order

    1973, the abominable Griggs vs Duke Power affirmative action judicial decision

    That’s it, in 17 years White men, both Republicans and Democrats created the laws and court orders that destroyed the White race in America.

    And the ignoramuses blame it all on the feminazi front groups of the Ford and Rockefeller Foundations. Ford Foundation run by White men at the time funded and created MALDEF Mex America Legal Foundation to pursue the same type of lawsuits NAACP ADL AJC ACLU pursued on behalf of blacks

    The mopping up operation was

    1975 O’Connor vs Donaldson all 9 White male Supreme Court justices ordered every mental hospital in the country closed down.

    1979. Kaiser vs Weber more affirmative action by an all White male Supreme Court

    And the men on this site blame the White male Ford and Rockefeller Foundation’s feminazi front groups who appeared out of nowhere around 1972.

    And they think the White race can be saved if White women conceive and raise more White children with no help from White men.

    Look at what they did to us when we were about 87 percent of the population.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

  68. @22pp22
    Frum doesn't explain why I should prefer his axis to the other guy's. Putin has never said he hates white men.

    Replies: @BenKenobi

    “Ain’t no gook ever called me boy”

    “Ain’t no Russian ever called me a racist nazi”

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @BenKenobi

    I ain't got no quarrel with no Maria Butina!

  69. ‘ANYVUN WHO SHTRAYS FROM ZE REZERVASHON VILL BE PUNISHED!’

  70. anon[282] • Disclaimer says:

    “Frum seems to have gone into this deranged rage over Trump”

    David Frum is an ethnocentric bigot like all members of his group. He’s deranged over Trump because he, like the rest of his group, sees him as the champion of “the other”. He loved Bush because Bush was a liar who gave his clan what they wanted – war on Israel’s enemies – without actually caring anything for his base; it was just lip service and they knew it. On the other hand, Trump, although pro-Israel, is seen by the Frums of the world as being serious with the pro-America First sentiment, so their bigotry and paranoia go into overdrive.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @anon

    David Frum is an ethnocentric bigot like all members of his group.

    Yeah, that's why he married a shiksa.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Moses

    , @Dissident
    @anon


    David Frum is an ethnocentric bigot like all members of his group. He’s deranged over Trump because he, like the rest of his group, sees him as the champion of “the other”.
     
    What did you mean by "his group"? Jews, per se? If so, how do you account for the very high intermarriage and assimilation rates among Jews? If current demographic trends continue, it won't be that long before the only Jews left are the Orthodox.

    Additionally, I note:
    - A significant minority of Jews support President Trump. Among the Orthodox, perhaps even a majority.

    - As an Orthodox Jew, I am obviously religio-centric* (However, in addition to being anti-Zionist (as nearly all Torah-observant Jews originally were and many still are), I also oppose what our host has dubbed Invade the World/ Invite the World/ In Hock to the World policies, and the attacks on Whites and decency that are regularly called-out on these pages.

    *As opposed to "ethnocentric", which I'm not sure would be accurate in my case, given that "Jewishness" minus Judaism is utterly worthless to me. I don't even believe there can be any inherent Jewish identity or characteristic minus Judaism.

    Replies: @utu, @ben tillman

  71. OT

    This pope guy did a quick run through my burg, and he’s giving his speeches in Spanish. Aren’t they supposed to learn English or Italian or Latin or something? He sounds so déclassé.

  72. @Lot
    @Anonymous

    We should have kept the franchise more limited, following the wisdom of the Founders and other early successful democracies.

    Best run nation in the West, Switzerland, also was the last to adopt bisexual voting.

    Replies: @Jesse, @Anonymous

    We should have kept the franchise more limited,

    Why though? What is your argument in support it doing that? And what does women voting have to do with a “con game,” as the other commenter?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Anonymous

    "Con" is short for "confidence."

    Entirely aside from the franchise, one should be aware of the primacy of confidence produced by the broad one that exists.

    , @Lot
    @Anonymous

    “ Why though?”

    I gave reasons why. Wisdom of our founders, other successful democracies, etc.

    I slightly disagree with Desi’s “men with families.”

    That’s better than what we have now, but the best was the qualifications used in early America and England like “owns property worth £30 or rents a house for more than £5 year” and included single men over 21 with their own household and a small number of women (mostly landed widows and unmarried heiresses).

    As for further “whys,” conservatism is partly about not abandoning what works in favor of untested innovations. Though now we have tested the broad franchise, I think it has failed.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

  73. @fitzhamilton
    @Arclight

    It's amusing how much of our political strum and drang these days is (to use a nice, Freudian term) simply psychological projection, accusing others what you are guilty of.

    We tend to assume others have the same inner life, and are operating from the same motives as ourselves.

    You tend to accuse others of what you yourself feel guilty of, after all.

    This tweet from Frum is a classic example. He's accusing Tucker Carlson of exactly what he is doing.

    So too is the "Russia Gate" nonsense. The American intelligence community accuses Russia of interfering with our elections.. This is coming from the same bunch (with Hillary Clinton's direction) that overthrew the Honduran government in 2009 and sent the elected president into exile.. Who just recently drove Evo Morales out of power in Bolivia.. Who are trying to overthrow the elected governments of Iran and Venezuela (whom they claim are undemocratic, but in fact have limited democracies seriously circumscribed and limited by elites, with highly controlled elections just like we have here).. Who are trying to destabilize the Syrian and Chinese government.. Who overthrew the democratically elected Allende in Chile and Mossadegh in Iran.. High test hypocrisy, blatant projection.

    These same people warned us all that Russia was about to subvert our democracy and overthrow our government back in 2016. Bad conscience over how they turned Boris Yeltsin into their puppet and raped Russia back in the 90's perhaps?

    They accuse Russia of mounting a psyops campaign to pollute our discourse, manipulate our public narrative and influence our elections, while doing exactly the same thing themselves constantly, everywhere internationally, and even (especially) in the United States itself. Classic projection.

    Hillary Clinton accuses Trump of Russian collusion, this from the same woman who negotiated the Uranium One Deal with Russia in 2010 after she and Bill and their eponymous foundation received millions of dollars from Russian sources and others benefiting from the deal. Ah, such sweet, sweet projection.

    They accuse Trump of profiting from his office through housing government employees and foreign visitors at his hotels, and thus selling his influence to corporate and foreign supplicants who bribe him indirectly through such stays.. This after themselves taking speaking honorariums and "donations" in the hundreds of millions from corporations and foreign powers. While Hunter Biden sits on foreign corporate boards in countries interested in culling his father's influence, collecting millions of dollars.. More glorious projection.

    The Babylonian Talmud warns: "Do not taunt your neighbour with the blemish you yourself have."

    David Frum ought to take those words to heart. Zionists accusing any one of multinational ethnocentric fascism ought to think about what is happening in Gaza and the West Bank the take a good long look in the mirror. This is violence is committed in the name of sustaining a state created to prevent a second holocaust. Jewish victimhood justifies Jewish victimization of others. This is projection made simply sublime.

    As one Jew once challenged his co-religionists:

    "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."

    Yom Kippur rolls around annually. Maybe David might take it seriously next year.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Steve in Greensboro

    The Babylonian Talmud warns: “Do not taunt your neighbour with the blemish you yourself have.”

    Good quote! Where can one obtain a good copy of the Babylonian Talmud in English?

  74. David Frum is a “conservative” in the same sense as Obama is one (as declared by the Dr. Evil’s WaPo the other day). Like Obama, Frum is dedicated to destroying America.

    But he is right when he declares that the capital of the white race is in Moscow. Where else would it be? America is on a glide path to multi-ethnic disaster and replacement, being driven there by our Ruling Class’s dedication to an open Southern border. Europe and the U.K. are on the same path also due to their Ruling Class’s dedication to open borders with low IQ ethnies.

    Hungary and maybe Poland are small islands of the white race, but Russia is the largest.

    And of course, that is why the Ruling Class hates Russia.

    • Agree: Charon
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Steve in Greensboro

    Russia is not a white nationalist state. They have significant minority populations and Putin allows non-white immigration into their country, which has a tanking birthrate--not a recipe for perpetuating whites.

  75. @fitzhamilton
    @Arclight

    It's amusing how much of our political strum and drang these days is (to use a nice, Freudian term) simply psychological projection, accusing others what you are guilty of.

    We tend to assume others have the same inner life, and are operating from the same motives as ourselves.

    You tend to accuse others of what you yourself feel guilty of, after all.

    This tweet from Frum is a classic example. He's accusing Tucker Carlson of exactly what he is doing.

    So too is the "Russia Gate" nonsense. The American intelligence community accuses Russia of interfering with our elections.. This is coming from the same bunch (with Hillary Clinton's direction) that overthrew the Honduran government in 2009 and sent the elected president into exile.. Who just recently drove Evo Morales out of power in Bolivia.. Who are trying to overthrow the elected governments of Iran and Venezuela (whom they claim are undemocratic, but in fact have limited democracies seriously circumscribed and limited by elites, with highly controlled elections just like we have here).. Who are trying to destabilize the Syrian and Chinese government.. Who overthrew the democratically elected Allende in Chile and Mossadegh in Iran.. High test hypocrisy, blatant projection.

    These same people warned us all that Russia was about to subvert our democracy and overthrow our government back in 2016. Bad conscience over how they turned Boris Yeltsin into their puppet and raped Russia back in the 90's perhaps?

    They accuse Russia of mounting a psyops campaign to pollute our discourse, manipulate our public narrative and influence our elections, while doing exactly the same thing themselves constantly, everywhere internationally, and even (especially) in the United States itself. Classic projection.

    Hillary Clinton accuses Trump of Russian collusion, this from the same woman who negotiated the Uranium One Deal with Russia in 2010 after she and Bill and their eponymous foundation received millions of dollars from Russian sources and others benefiting from the deal. Ah, such sweet, sweet projection.

    They accuse Trump of profiting from his office through housing government employees and foreign visitors at his hotels, and thus selling his influence to corporate and foreign supplicants who bribe him indirectly through such stays.. This after themselves taking speaking honorariums and "donations" in the hundreds of millions from corporations and foreign powers. While Hunter Biden sits on foreign corporate boards in countries interested in culling his father's influence, collecting millions of dollars.. More glorious projection.

    The Babylonian Talmud warns: "Do not taunt your neighbour with the blemish you yourself have."

    David Frum ought to take those words to heart. Zionists accusing any one of multinational ethnocentric fascism ought to think about what is happening in Gaza and the West Bank the take a good long look in the mirror. This is violence is committed in the name of sustaining a state created to prevent a second holocaust. Jewish victimhood justifies Jewish victimization of others. This is projection made simply sublime.

    As one Jew once challenged his co-religionists:

    "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."

    Yom Kippur rolls around annually. Maybe David might take it seriously next year.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Steve in Greensboro

    Or as the Old Romans said (at least according to Robert Graves in “I, Claudius”), “cripples do not mock cripples”.

  76. @Mr. Anon
    Given that David Frum is from Canada, one might accuse him of triple loyalty.

    Nah, who am I kidding. It's still just one loyalty.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Redneck farmer, @anonynous

    It took 33 comments to get to the point Frum is A STINKING FOREIGNER?

  77. @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @istevefan, @schnellandine, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Gaius Gracchus, @Alfa158, @Chet Bradley, @nebulafox, @Bardon Kaldian, @MEH 0910, @Clyde, @Realist, @Tlotsi, @Malcolm X-Lax, @J1234, @The Anti-Gnostic, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @22pp22, @MBB, @imbroglio, @Joe Schmoe, @Bradley

    Tiny Dick’s latest incarnation.

  78. OT

    Dem-Controlled School District Adopts SJW-Backed Busing Plan Despite Widespread Opposition

    “The redistricting plan based on ‘equity’ came out of left field and is clearly an idea which came from outside the county. Even the board members who were very much ‘for’ the plan cited how the ‘country was watching’ — which just goes to show they were more interested in their own headlines than the lives of our county’s school children.” …

    As the reporters pointed out, it appears this is yet another example of crusading white SJWs patronizing minorities and the indigent.

    Quote from the video: “What it comes down to is a moral mandate about equity and race.”

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @eah

    Stalinesque!

    How can the county school board even hold two votes on the same question in quick succession? Did someone have kompromat on the "one Democratic member who had voted 'No' until xe voted 'Yes'"?


    Marybeth Steil, a county resident and lawyer, told the DCNF, “I thought I was a Democrat before the August 22 release of the plan, but this totally alienated me. Lots of my neighbors have told me the same. They awoke a bear for sure.”
     
    Gotta call in the Bear Cavalry on this one.

    Replies: @Ed

    , @Daniel H
    @eah

    It’s not your fight, it’s not your problem. This is just internecine conflict between two SJW factions. Encourage the conflict. Let them devour one another.

    , @Alden
    @eah

    I read the link, Soros Foundation strikes again.,

    Brown vs Topeka was funded by the American Jewish Committee and ADL The plaintiff, Esther Brown was not a black child or the black parent of a child who wanted to attend a White school.

    Esther Brown was an adult Jewish attorney. How she had standing to be plaintiff is beyond me. Most of the attorneys on the plaintiff side except for the well rehearsed actor, Thurgood Marshall were Jews.

    1956 2019 jews jews jews

    The parents could try a recall vote. But of course the parents have jobs. The Soros operatives job is destroying Whites.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  79. Frum is another one who doesn’t waste much time denouncing the Azov Battalion. Ask yourself why they’re OK with Banderites wearing the wolfsangle if they can used against Russia.

  80. @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @istevefan, @schnellandine, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Gaius Gracchus, @Alfa158, @Chet Bradley, @nebulafox, @Bardon Kaldian, @MEH 0910, @Clyde, @Realist, @Tlotsi, @Malcolm X-Lax, @J1234, @The Anti-Gnostic, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @22pp22, @MBB, @imbroglio, @Joe Schmoe, @Bradley

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @MEH 0910

    The teacher must be trolling them: How many Swatikas can you find in this puzzle?

  81. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    Long live the Palestinians
     
    This one will live long, at our expense:


    http://www.ocalapost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Fort-Hood.jpg

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Not Raul

    This one will live long, at our expense:

    This one too:

  82. Gee, what issues might Frum, a Canadian-born naturalised US Citizen who frequently genuflects or prostrates himself in the direction of Jerusalem have with Tucker?

  83. @Gaius Gracchus
    @Sherry Khan

    You are welcome to move off to your husband's blessed Pakistan if you don't like it here.

    You, in a single post, validated opinions that immigration for the last century has been a bad idea.

    Replies: @Sherry Khan

    I am an American and so are my husband and Children.
    Who on this earth are you to tell me about where I should move?
    Racist and Disgusting what you just said

    • Replies: @SFG
    @Sherry Khan

    You must be new here.

    , @ThreeCranes
    @Sherry Khan

    There's no better answer to your comment than this one from commenter Dr. X from the previous "NYT endorses hooded gay...." post;

    "I suspect that most everybody who reads Unz Review has already figured this out… but these people are clearly telegraphing that when we reach the magic date of 2040 or whenever it is that the U.S. becomes “majority minority,” they plan to treat whites here exactly the way that whites are treated in Zimbabwe and Afrikaners are treated in SA.

    Of course, they plan to disarm you first.

    Our forefathers understood that race relations are always a zero-sum game…"

    , @Athletic and Whitesplosive
    @Sherry Khan


    I am an American and so are my husband and Children
     
    Sure, that's nice, but you have to go back.

    Replies: @Sherry Khan

    , @William Badwhite
    @Sherry Khan

    You already said your husband was Pakistani.

    , @OilcanFloyd
    @Sherry Khan

    The American people were never asked if we wanted our demographics changed. You really should go home.

    And why would we want foreigners who think they can end any argument by screaming racism in our midst? Just go home. You are not an American, and you can never be an American, just like I could never be a Pakistani, Chinese, Latino, Jew, etc..

    , @J.Ross
    @Sherry Khan

    America is a proposition nation: thus anyone who rejects (or fails to embrace) the proposition has no place here. Compare what any Muslim would say about demands that Pakistan become a second Jewish state.

    , @Gaius Gracchus
    @Sherry Khan

    You obviously hate those who made the country. You obviously hate the traditions of the country. You obviously hate the culture of those who made the country. You obviously have no gratitude for generations of sacrifice that created this country.

    So, if you hate, GTFO.

    As to me, I am one of those referenced in the Preamble of the Constitution, one of those for which the country was established, the "Posterity".

    Everyone else needs to integrate with gratitude or go.

    Good thing people are waking up and not putting up with ingrates like you. Learn your place or be gone.

    , @Daniel Chieh
    @Sherry Khan

    You sound fowl-like.

    , @Kylie
    @Sherry Khan

    No, you and your husband and children are not Americans any more than a Protestant woman who enters a convent and puts on a habit is a Catholic nun.

    You may be American residents, even American citizens. But that is because our government is using you to wage war on us, the real Americans. You don't have the faintest understanding of what it means to be an American. And you never will.

    You all belong in Norway or Sweden, not here. The sooner you leave, the better.

    And no, I don't say this because your husband is Pakistani. Recently, I joined thousands of others in welcoming an Indian couple who just became American citizens and, because they did their research, switched from supporting the Dems to being pro-Trump. They are as American as I am. You are not nor will ever be.

    , @Joe Schmoe
    @Sherry Khan

    obviously you think it is fine and dandy for your husband to move himself to a foreign country, so, you and your kids can try it out and see how wonderful it is to move to a foreign country. It will be fun! You will love it! And none of those disgusting racist Americans! It will be so totally awesome! You should totally do it. Pakistan is practically paradise compared to having to live among so many whites.

  84. There was never a “multiracial American nation”. Until the 1960s/70s, there were three loosely connected “nations”: blacks, who were the most homogeneous among them; whites, who were the real historical American nation – basically old stock Americans of British descent plus culturally assimilated groups of other Europeans (white phenotype, English language, Western culture & American historical traditions); and then, a conglomerate of Native American peoples/”nations”, who lived apart.

    Only whites, who constituted 80-85% of the populace, could be considered Americans; those other two groups were American national minorities, yet not a part of American nation. Then, in the 70s things started to change & American nation has entered the stage of dissolution.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Bardon Kaldian

    "...plus culturally assimilated groups of other Europeans (white phenotype, English language, Western culture & American historical traditions);..."

    As one of those other Europeans I think we were kind of separate until quite recently, and I lean towards the notion that we still are to a certain extent and that's a good thing.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  85. By the way, Lawrence Auster was, here, right (I think he’s too rough on Jews as such, but in this respect he was right):

    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/024334.html

    Thus Jews distance themselves from America even as they embrace it. In a testimonial in the New York Times paid for by the American Jewish Committee, a West Point cadet named Avraam Isaacson spoke about “What Being Jewish Means to Me”:

    I am heir to two great traditions—Jewish and American—which, in my view, stand for the same basic principles: the building of a more just and equitable society; the importance of caring and compassion; the defense of liberty. That’s why Jews have had a love affair with America. And that’s why I’m proud to be an American Jew and to serve my country.

    While this seems terribly patriotic at first glance, there is something forced in Isaacson’s notion of having a “love affair” with America. Patriots don’t normally speak of having a “love affair” with their country. They belong to their country, they are linked to it by ties of history and loyalty and devotion. To declare publicly that you have a love affair with America is to place America outside yourself. In Isaacson’s case, it is to see America as the object of an ideological passion, an object one seeks to possess as the fulfillment of (or rather as the instrument of) one’s left-liberal ideals. While this may be an admirable impulse, it is not the same thing as love of country. It also implies that if America did not practice those left-liberal ideals, then Isaacson wouldn’t love it. But then a love affair by its nature is a temporary thing.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  86. @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @istevefan, @schnellandine, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Gaius Gracchus, @Alfa158, @Chet Bradley, @nebulafox, @Bardon Kaldian, @MEH 0910, @Clyde, @Realist, @Tlotsi, @Malcolm X-Lax, @J1234, @The Anti-Gnostic, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @22pp22, @MBB, @imbroglio, @Joe Schmoe, @Bradley

    You quack and misspell like a tiny duck. How about plugging verysmartbrothas.com? And Lenord Spitz?

  87. @Anonymous
    @Massimo Heitor


    stresses that nations should strictly serve the interests of existing citizens not potential future citizens.
     
    When has Frum ever said this?

    Replies: @SFG

  88. @Sherry Khan
    @Gaius Gracchus

    I am an American and so are my husband and Children.
    Who on this earth are you to tell me about where I should move?
    Racist and Disgusting what you just said

    Replies: @SFG, @ThreeCranes, @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @William Badwhite, @OilcanFloyd, @J.Ross, @Gaius Gracchus, @Daniel Chieh, @Kylie, @Joe Schmoe

    You must be new here.

  89. This is somewhat ironic as Frum has actually been arguing for immigration restriction, in the pages of the Atlantic no less. (He reaches a lot more people that way than he would on Unz or even National Review, you do have to admit.)

    Reading between the lines (‘if liberals won’t enforce borders, fascists will’), he’s probably doing what many here accuse his relatives of doing and trying to make smaller changes so the goyim don’t rise up.

    I don’t think slowing down immigration would be such a bad thing for the country. (Better to stop, but…) Preserve a white majority long enough and Hispanics will assimilate into it to move up. You’d lose racial purity, I guess, but you’d avoid a nightmare South Africa white genocide scenario, or a racial civil war that would probably devastate the country. Or some awful Lebanon-like scenario where everything is carefully managed to maintain balance between the major groups.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @SFG


    Or some awful Lebanon-like scenario where everything is carefully managed to maintain balance between the major groups.
     
    I think we already have that, although (so far) in a milder form than it is in Lebanon. We're a Myles Garrett/ Mason Rudolph nation, with our political/academic/financial/media overlords as the NFL brass.
    , @Mr. Anon
    @SFG


    This is somewhat ironic as Frum has actually been arguing for immigration restriction, in the pages of the Atlantic no less.
     
    A perusal of his recent articles in The Levantine don't turn up much on the topic of immigration. Most of it is Trump-Bad, Trump-Must-Be-Impeached, etc. If Frum does argue for immigration restriction, he seems to think he should be the only one allowed do so (since he presumes to write actual American conservatives out of American conservatism) or that nobody whould be permitted to do so except in his way.
  90. @Anonymous
    Message to David Frum. Long live the Palestinians, and the US must stop favoring Jewish supremacists over Palestinian resisters.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Jesse, @Art Deco

    and the US must stop favoring Jewish supremacists over Palestinian resisters.

    Why? The ‘resisters’ have no practical objects and very little human capital.

    What’s amusing about this is that half the people on this board are, in their stated dispositions, flagrantly unsentimental if not brutal. At the same time another bloc are bleeding hearts for a modest collection of Arabs who do absolutely nothing sensible to ameliorate their situation and whose ‘leadership’ has on six separate occasions over 50-odd years rejected or sabotaged efforts to improve their situation (because those efforts did not incorporate killing a lot of Jews). And, what’s also amusing, is that the flagrantly unsentimental have flat nothing critical to say to the sob sisters. Gives you the idea that the issue is never really the issue.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Art Deco

    I think Israel is grown-up enough that they can do their genocide all on their lonesome and not constantly run around crying like little mentally distressed bitches that someone "forces them" to do this-and-that and blow kid's brains out and flatten thrice-reconstructed villages and engineer destruction of whole countries via the Gimp's armed forces etc. etc. etc.

    Just place an order at BASF, for Jehovah's sake. The german govnm't may even give everything away cheap for "reparations".

    Yeah. I know it's all about cooking the frog until everything from the Golan Heights to the Gaza strip has been "assimilated" properly, but ... come on!

    Replies: @Not Raul, @Jane Plain, @nebulafox

    , @Joe Schmoe
    @Art Deco

    Are you dumb? There is no sympathy for the Palestinians here. It is an analogy showing that what Frum suggests is every bit as stupid as favoring the palestinians.

  91. @Bill B.
    listening to John Mearsheimer say that when the USA tried to use its unipolar moment to force the world to turn liberal-democratic I am reminded that at this time the elites went bat-crazy in their enthusiasm for migration. Invade the world, invite the world.

    If, as Mearsheimer emphatically states, that moment is over and anyway revealed as ridiculous in concept, why hasn’t the open borders fad also faded. If all people’s do not want to live in liberal democracies then they can’t live together right?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eFtsg3jgH1Y

    Replies: @216, @Sean, @istevefan

    John von Neumann (and Bertrand Russell) advocated threatening or actually using a nuclear strike against the Soviet Union to prevent it acquiring the atomic bomb.After that golden opportunity was lost, liberals went to saying they would bear any burden and make any sacrifice but they it’s just rhetoric.

    There was no longer a bipolar world, which was quite stable, and there was a war of words and through proxies. Now there is China, so it is multipolar and so the world is less stable. However the US and Russia are never going to fight because one side would lose and then stop fighting conventionally and go nuclear. And after that specimen strike there would be no way to stop a tit for tat. Hence annoying Russia is safe because there is no possibility war with them. The neocons as chickenhawks.

    If all peoples do not want to live in liberal democracies then they can’t live together right?

    No, they live in seperate countries and do not get a choice where they are born.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Sean


    No, they live in seperate countries and do not get a choice where they are born.
     
    Hey, if they can freely choose their gender, why can't they freely choose their nationality?
  92. @Sherry Khan
    @Gaius Gracchus

    I am an American and so are my husband and Children.
    Who on this earth are you to tell me about where I should move?
    Racist and Disgusting what you just said

    Replies: @SFG, @ThreeCranes, @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @William Badwhite, @OilcanFloyd, @J.Ross, @Gaius Gracchus, @Daniel Chieh, @Kylie, @Joe Schmoe

    There’s no better answer to your comment than this one from commenter Dr. X from the previous “NYT endorses hooded gay….” post;

    “I suspect that most everybody who reads Unz Review has already figured this out… but these people are clearly telegraphing that when we reach the magic date of 2040 or whenever it is that the U.S. becomes “majority minority,” they plan to treat whites here exactly the way that whites are treated in Zimbabwe and Afrikaners are treated in SA.

    Of course, they plan to disarm you first.

    Our forefathers understood that race relations are always a zero-sum game…”

  93. @Massimo Heitor
    It's interesting that Frum has been one of the loudest voices for immigration enforcement and limits that stresses that nations should strictly serve the interests of existing citizens not potential future citizens.

    Frum seems to have gone into this deranged rage over Trump that has persisted for years. Trump has really broken him.

    Replies: @Pincher Martin, @Anonymous, @Art Deco

    You kind of wonder if Frum’s whole life is a species of cosplay. At this point, he’s independently wealthy (and estate planning imperatives may have made him such well before the previous generation died) and his wife also comes from money; her family if not his were people of influence in Ontario. The two of them emigrated for whatever reason. He trained as a lawyer, then never practiced. He landed a job as an editorial writer at The Wall Street Journal, then landed a job in George Bush the Elder’s PR apparat. Over the years, he’s played a libertarian, a warrior contra Jihadis, a paladin of Rockefeller Republicanism (making the argument the Republicans were somehow obligated to embrace Obama administration policy tar babies because reasons), and now a NeverTrump fantasist. He’s burned his bridges to a succession of people (some of whom a sensible person wouldn’t have wanted to associate with, to be sure); he was cashiered by the 2d Bush administration, went out of his way to alienate the Rockford Institute and Peter Brimelow, cut ties with National Review, was sh!tcanned by the American Enterprise Institute (in a most embarrassing way, costing him friends), and was at one time the employer of one Alex Pareene (the controversy around which cost him more friends).

    • Agree: Patrick in SC
    • Replies: @Prester John
    @Art Deco

    Notwithstanding all the bridges he burned, Frum went over to The Dark Side long before Trump arrived.

    , @Massimo Heitor
    @Art Deco

    @Art, I'm stunned that you know that much about the life and career of David Frum.

    That guy has made so many missteps and burned so many bridges, I'm surprised he still has a career as a prominent pundit.

    , @bjondo
    @Art Deco

    Emigrated to join US Jew
    promoting Wars for Jew.

    For ME destroying,
    US bit better than Canada.

    And

    not even close where
    terrorizing the entire
    earth (for Jew) is concerned.

    For America,
    Frum is a
    pointless, worthless, empty,
    alien.

    5ds

  94. When did Eastern Slavs become White? I thought they were Asiatic, heirs to Gengiz and Attila. And doesn’t Pres Drumpf hold a Teutonic dislike of Slavs? OK, maybe the Germans are heirs to Attila, not the Russians.

  95. @newrouter
    @Hail

    >That Frum comment (Moscow as the capital of the White race)<

    What's Berlin chopped liver?

    Replies: @Flip

    I vote for Copenhagen. Christian IX’s descendants ruled over Europe.

  96. @anon
    "Frum seems to have gone into this deranged rage over Trump"

    David Frum is an ethnocentric bigot like all members of his group. He's deranged over Trump because he, like the rest of his group, sees him as the champion of "the other". He loved Bush because Bush was a liar who gave his clan what they wanted - war on Israel's enemies - without actually caring anything for his base; it was just lip service and they knew it. On the other hand, Trump, although pro-Israel, is seen by the Frums of the world as being serious with the pro-America First sentiment, so their bigotry and paranoia go into overdrive.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Dissident

    David Frum is an ethnocentric bigot like all members of his group.

    Yeah, that’s why he married a shiksa.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Art Deco


    David Frum is an ethnocentric bigot like all members of his group.

    Yeah, that’s why he married a shiksa.
     

     
    She’s a convert to Judaism.

    http://ypcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/jesusFacePalm.jpg
    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Art Deco

    You really have no idea how any of this works at all, do you.

    Actually I'm quite certain you do know exactly how it works, you're just pretending not to for strategic purposes.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @Moses
    @Art Deco


    Yeah, that’s why he married a shiksa.
     
    From Wikipedia:

    The etymology of the word shiksa is partly derived from the Hebrew term שקץ shekets, meaning "abomination", "impure," or "object of loathing", depending on the translator.[30] Several dictionaries define shiksa as a disparaging and offensive term applied to a non-Jewish girl or woman.[31][32] In 2014, Rabbi Jack Abramowitz described it as "simply indefensible", "inherently condescending, racist and misogynistic".[33]

     

    Shiksa

    Abomination. Impure. Object of loathing.

    Used casually by Art Deco for a Gentile woman. Also used by my fellow Jews to describe Gentile women in national television programs like Seinfeld.

    What do they mean when they use this word? We may never know.

    Replies: @Lot, @Stan Adams, @Art Deco

  97. OT

    The Guardian laments the attacks on Chinese in France by “youths”, and applauds the new assertiveness of Chinese youth, who are really really French, and also really really Chinese.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/26/what-you-hear-about-chinese-people-in-france-feeling-scared-its-true

    ” There were TV programmes like Envoyé Special, which killed Chinese delicatessens almost overnight by screening ‘exposés’ on hygiene standards. “

    The horror!

    “Intellectually, I can understand why the gilets jaunes are protesting – I’m French after all, I have the tendency to question the way other French people do. But when you know that your parents have survived one of the greatest genocides the world has ever seen, everything becomes relative. When people talk of life’s great problems being the price of petrol and only being able to go to a restaurant once a week, or only having one holiday a year, we can’t feel fully invested in these arguments, even if we understand them. My parents ran a restaurant when I was a child, and I can’t remember them ever taking a holiday. “

    So why should those pampered French expect so much? Us Cambodian Chinese don’t!

    “One of the things my parents often used to say in reprimanding me was ‘tu es devenue trop Française’ – you’ve become too French. Whenever they were angry they also used the term ‘ang mo kia’, which was not intended as a compliment. [It means “white kid” in many of the dialects of southern China, shorthand for rude, rebellious behaviour – western values being of course the antithesis of harmony, both within the family and in society.]”

    No comment. Remember it’s the French who are the racists.

    “My father was the opposite end of this spectrum. He worked in the lowest of shitty jobs, as a plongeur (a dishwasher) in Chinese restaurants – that sort of thing. I could feel his shame at being an illegal immigrant every time he talked to anyone. I could hear it in his voice – he felt crushed by the world. Why? I asked myself. Why do we have to live with this shame? I would go home at night and cry myself to sleep. Because they were illegals, my parents were forced to accept their position at the bottom of the ladder, and their inferiority complex coloured my experience of life, even at that age.

    “Every single time they went out, my parents would take me along with them. ‘In France the police won’t arrest us if we have a child with us,’ they used to say. Even at that age, I knew that I was being used as a human shield. “

    Damn racist French with their racist laws that they expect everyone to obey!

  98. @Anonymous
    @Desiderius


    It’s a 19th Amendment world.
     
    What do you mean by this?

    Replies: @Lot, @Flip

    Ruled by emotion rather than logic

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Flip


    Ruled by emotion rather than logic
     
    Even granting that for the sake of argument, what does it have to do with the “con game” the commenter refers to?

    Replies: @Desiderius

  99. @BenKenobi
    @22pp22

    "Ain't no gook ever called me boy"

    "Ain't no Russian ever called me a racist nazi"

    Replies: @Hibernian

    I ain’t got no quarrel with no Maria Butina!

  100. @Art Deco
    @anon

    David Frum is an ethnocentric bigot like all members of his group.

    Yeah, that's why he married a shiksa.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Moses

    David Frum is an ethnocentric bigot like all members of his group.

    Yeah, that’s why he married a shiksa.

    She’s a convert to Judaism.

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
  101. @Bardon Kaldian
    There was never a "multiracial American nation". Until the 1960s/70s, there were three loosely connected "nations": blacks, who were the most homogeneous among them; whites, who were the real historical American nation - basically old stock Americans of British descent plus culturally assimilated groups of other Europeans (white phenotype, English language, Western culture & American historical traditions); and then, a conglomerate of Native American peoples/"nations", who lived apart.

    Only whites, who constituted 80-85% of the populace, could be considered Americans; those other two groups were American national minorities, yet not a part of American nation. Then, in the 70s things started to change & American nation has entered the stage of dissolution.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    “…plus culturally assimilated groups of other Europeans (white phenotype, English language, Western culture & American historical traditions);…”

    As one of those other Europeans I think we were kind of separate until quite recently, and I lean towards the notion that we still are to a certain extent and that’s a good thing.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Hibernian


    we still are to a certain extent and that’s a good thing.
     
    Why is that a good thing?

    Replies: @Hibernian

  102. @SFG
    This is somewhat ironic as Frum has actually been arguing for immigration restriction, in the pages of the Atlantic no less. (He reaches a lot more people that way than he would on Unz or even National Review, you do have to admit.)

    Reading between the lines ('if liberals won't enforce borders, fascists will'), he's probably doing what many here accuse his relatives of doing and trying to make smaller changes so the goyim don't rise up.

    I don't think slowing down immigration would be such a bad thing for the country. (Better to stop, but...) Preserve a white majority long enough and Hispanics will assimilate into it to move up. You'd lose racial purity, I guess, but you'd avoid a nightmare South Africa white genocide scenario, or a racial civil war that would probably devastate the country. Or some awful Lebanon-like scenario where everything is carefully managed to maintain balance between the major groups.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Mr. Anon

    Or some awful Lebanon-like scenario where everything is carefully managed to maintain balance between the major groups.

    I think we already have that, although (so far) in a milder form than it is in Lebanon. We’re a Myles Garrett/ Mason Rudolph nation, with our political/academic/financial/media overlords as the NFL brass.

  103. @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @istevefan, @schnellandine, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Gaius Gracchus, @Alfa158, @Chet Bradley, @nebulafox, @Bardon Kaldian, @MEH 0910, @Clyde, @Realist, @Tlotsi, @Malcolm X-Lax, @J1234, @The Anti-Gnostic, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @22pp22, @MBB, @imbroglio, @Joe Schmoe, @Bradley

    I, as a mother of mixed race children don’t want them to live under a “Nazi style regime” that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive.

    That explains a lot…not all Whites are intelligent.

    My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing “Privileged White Guy”.

    My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan and my grandparents who immigrated from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing “Privileged White Guy”

    FIFY

    First a Norwegian that would marry a Swede is suspect.
    And second Carlson does not wear a bow tie.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Realist

    If she’s raising 4 kids she was probably born after 1980. Scandinavians her grandparents age didn’t immigrate because of the socialist benefits of the Scandinavian countries made immigration unnecessary.

    And come to think of it, Swedes and Norwegians tended to live in their separate enclaves. A good marriage he got a green card, she got a Dr. If he is a Dr. if he is Pakistani.

    Maybe she’s thinking of Princess Diana and her Pakistani Dr. or Jemima Goldsmith and Imren Khan.

    Replies: @Realist

  104. @Reg Cæsar
    @Hail


    That Frum comment (Moscow as the capital of the White race) makes no sense if not understood in the terms Steve Sailer proposes.
     
    I'm disgusted. St Petersburg has a lot more class. And charm. And history.

    Let's put our capital there.

    Replies: @Hail, @Romanian

    Winter capital: St. Petersburg, Florida.

    American Style magazine ranked St. Petersburg its top mid-size city in 2011, citing its “vibrant” arts scene

    Uh oh.

    • Replies: @Dtbb
    @Hail

    All the vibrancy is south of Central Ave. The museum's are pretty safe.

  105. @Art Deco
    @anon

    David Frum is an ethnocentric bigot like all members of his group.

    Yeah, that's why he married a shiksa.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Moses

    You really have no idea how any of this works at all, do you.

    Actually I’m quite certain you do know exactly how it works, you’re just pretending not to for strategic purposes.

    • Agree: Charon
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    You really have no idea how any of this works at all, do you.

    I'm not addled by social and political fantasies. That's your problem, not that of any normal person.

  106. The neocons have been thirsting for another Cold War for some time. But they need a grand ideological conflict to justify it. And since the US and Russia are both basically kleptocratic regimes, the grand ideological conflict doesn’t exist on an economic level. So they’ve settled on an ideological conflict where the US is the empire of “diversity is our strength,” while Russia and its sphere of influence stands against that.

    This is obviously a grotesque distortion of reality, but it serves the purpose of people like Frum: They want to start a hunt for “the enemies within.”

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Senor Moose

    It doesn't even require that you be a neocon, just a member of America's bipartisan elite with its assumptions about how the world should work, assumptions that are so reinforced and coddled that genuine incomprehension results when they run into somebody (like Putin) who views the world differently. You can't really understand Obama and Putin butting heads in non-ideological terms, and Obama, whatever his flaws, was no neocon.

    Russia has the GDP of Mexico, one that is constantly bled dry by severe corruption, and in stark contrast to the old USSR, cannot project power outside of long-time satellites or areas with ethnic Russians in them. To say that it is the main threat the US faces in the world is ludicrous. Russia actually chooses to invest in a conventional military, unlike most of Europe, so they can vastly overpower them without us around, but it is hardly Moscow's fault that the Europeans buy into the fantasy that they can have a US-style high-tech military for only a tenth of the budget.

    Replies: @Jack Henson

  107. @Anonymous
    Frum is not high IQ. Smarter than Podhoretz.

    Frum's assertions are consistently dumb. Moscow as white race capital? The whitest Russians usually have significant Asian admixture. They are Eurasians, Asiatics.

    Putin's face is actually exotic by western standards. Not the face of an Englishman. His 23 and Me results would be filled with weird Turkic artifacts and maybe even some Genghis Khan remnants etc. But I'm sure Frum thinks Putin = WASP.

    Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy, @El Dato, @SunBakedSuburb, @Romanian

    True, there are plenty of Stormfronter and other racial purist types who believe that Russians aren’t white.

  108. @Anonymous
    Frum is not high IQ. Smarter than Podhoretz.

    Frum's assertions are consistently dumb. Moscow as white race capital? The whitest Russians usually have significant Asian admixture. They are Eurasians, Asiatics.

    Putin's face is actually exotic by western standards. Not the face of an Englishman. His 23 and Me results would be filled with weird Turkic artifacts and maybe even some Genghis Khan remnants etc. But I'm sure Frum thinks Putin = WASP.

    Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy, @El Dato, @SunBakedSuburb, @Romanian

    Quite possibly.

    Those people have the depth-of-reasoning of a Nazi functionary grown fat on Weimar Republic processed meat products.

  109. @Art Deco
    @Anonymous

    and the US must stop favoring Jewish supremacists over Palestinian resisters.

    Why? The 'resisters' have no practical objects and very little human capital.

    What's amusing about this is that half the people on this board are, in their stated dispositions, flagrantly unsentimental if not brutal. At the same time another bloc are bleeding hearts for a modest collection of Arabs who do absolutely nothing sensible to ameliorate their situation and whose 'leadership' has on six separate occasions over 50-odd years rejected or sabotaged efforts to improve their situation (because those efforts did not incorporate killing a lot of Jews). And, what's also amusing, is that the flagrantly unsentimental have flat nothing critical to say to the sob sisters. Gives you the idea that the issue is never really the issue.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Joe Schmoe

    I think Israel is grown-up enough that they can do their genocide all on their lonesome and not constantly run around crying like little mentally distressed bitches that someone “forces them” to do this-and-that and blow kid’s brains out and flatten thrice-reconstructed villages and engineer destruction of whole countries via the Gimp’s armed forces etc. etc. etc.

    Just place an order at BASF, for Jehovah’s sake. The german govnm’t may even give everything away cheap for “reparations”.

    Yeah. I know it’s all about cooking the frog until everything from the Golan Heights to the Gaza strip has been “assimilated” properly, but … come on!

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    @El Dato

    If they placed an order at BASF, German taxpayers would pay for it, just like with the submarines.

    , @Jane Plain
    @El Dato

    Israel has committed genocide on the "Palestinians" the way the US has committed genocide on African-Americans.

    The Arabs resident in British Palestine lost a power struggle. Happens. Why should I have any sympathy for the losers?

    "I think Israel is grown-up enough that they can do their genocide all on their lonesome and not constantly run around crying like little mentally distressed bitches that someone “forces them” to do this-and-that and blow kid’s brains out and flatten thrice-reconstructed villages and engineer destruction of whole countries via the Gimp’s armed forces etc. etc. etc."

    They don't do that. They do kill people, some of them children, but that happens in war zones, when kids insist on defying armed troops. And although I realize that it might not upset you, it upsets them, and they talk about it a lot in their media, which I think you obsessively read, as most Jew-haters do.

    It's not unlike the way American soldiers came home and wept about hurting Vietnamese children. Civilized men do that. I'm sorry it hurts your little feelings. You'll just have to grow up and get used to it.

    , @nebulafox
    @El Dato

    Calling it genocide is ridiculous: Palestinian Arabs that take on Israeli citizenship have more rights there than they would in any Arab country.

    In my view, Israel is welcome to defend themselves and their conquests to the best of their ability, and in the medium-term, their future is pretty bright, until/unless the demographic explosion of the hardliners on both sides explodes into a bloody morass. They won: when you win wars, you get rights to the spoils. Israel is far more geopolitically better off than they were 50 years ago. The Palestinians have no significant allies to lean on anymore outside of Europe: which an increasingly non-European Israel has little incentive to pay attention to in domestic politics.

    I am not commenting on the rights and wrongs of the situation, merely stating reality as it is. Foreign policy is not, nor will ever missionary work. Americans of all political stripes have a hard time digesting this.

    Where I draw the line are useful idiots on Capitol Hill insisting we help them do their dirty work. They've got their own army and their own money, they can do it themselves. The notion of "Judeo-Christian values" being anything approximating a valid motivating factor in foreign policy is a neocon invention that needs to be purged from our political life.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Dissident

  110. @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @istevefan, @schnellandine, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Gaius Gracchus, @Alfa158, @Chet Bradley, @nebulafox, @Bardon Kaldian, @MEH 0910, @Clyde, @Realist, @Tlotsi, @Malcolm X-Lax, @J1234, @The Anti-Gnostic, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @22pp22, @MBB, @imbroglio, @Joe Schmoe, @Bradley

    Tiny Dick strikes, again!

  111. @eah
    OT

    Dem-Controlled School District Adopts SJW-Backed Busing Plan Despite Widespread Opposition

    "The redistricting plan based on ‘equity’ came out of left field and is clearly an idea which came from outside the county. Even the board members who were very much ‘for’ the plan cited how the ‘country was watching’ — which just goes to show they were more interested in their own headlines than the lives of our county’s school children." ...

    As the reporters pointed out, it appears this is yet another example of crusading white SJWs patronizing minorities and the indigent.
     
    Quote from the video: "What it comes down to is a moral mandate about equity and race."

    Replies: @El Dato, @Daniel H, @Alden

    Stalinesque!

    How can the county school board even hold two votes on the same question in quick succession? Did someone have kompromat on the “one Democratic member who had voted ‘No’ until xe voted ‘Yes’”?

    Marybeth Steil, a county resident and lawyer, told the DCNF, “I thought I was a Democrat before the August 22 release of the plan, but this totally alienated me. Lots of my neighbors have told me the same. They awoke a bear for sure.”

    Gotta call in the Bear Cavalry on this one.

    • Replies: @Ed
    @El Dato

    They'll probably vote Democrat, they'll just move.

  112. @Colin Wright
    'David Frum Accuses Tucker Carlson...'

    Ergo, there's at least something good about Tucker Carlson.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Prof. Woland, @Richard B

    At this point, I can’t think of anything bad about Tucker Carlson. About the Democrats, he said this yesterday:

    “This is what happens when you let Jeff Zucker run your political party.”

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-blames-media-for-impeachment-push-says-democrats-have-lost

    Idk, maybe his haircut?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @HammerJack


    At this point, I can’t think of anything bad about Tucker Carlson. About the Democrats, he said this yesterday:

    “This is what happens when you let Jeff Zucker run your political party.”

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-blames-media-for-impeachment-push-says-democrats-have-lost
     
    Idk, maybe his haircut?
     
    He put on some weight. I’m not fat-shaming mind you.
    , @Realist
    @HammerJack


    At this point, I can’t think of anything bad about Tucker Carlson.
     
    He's too anti-China. He needs to stay out of foreign government issues...it is none of his or our governments business.
  113. @istevefan
    @Sherry Khan


    My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan
     
    It's a crime that the USA poached this man from a nation in more need of physicians than the US itself. Colonialism was wrong when rich nations stole other's natural resources. It's wrong today when they steal their human resources.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    Yeah but he’s an incompetent surgeon. She neglected to mention. As such, he’s much safer here in the USA where he’ll be protected by Immigrant Privilege, rather than back in Pakistan where he’d be tortured and slaughtered by angry relatives of his deceased “patients”.

    And if that’s not an ironclad application for asylum I don’t know what is.

  114. @SFG
    This is somewhat ironic as Frum has actually been arguing for immigration restriction, in the pages of the Atlantic no less. (He reaches a lot more people that way than he would on Unz or even National Review, you do have to admit.)

    Reading between the lines ('if liberals won't enforce borders, fascists will'), he's probably doing what many here accuse his relatives of doing and trying to make smaller changes so the goyim don't rise up.

    I don't think slowing down immigration would be such a bad thing for the country. (Better to stop, but...) Preserve a white majority long enough and Hispanics will assimilate into it to move up. You'd lose racial purity, I guess, but you'd avoid a nightmare South Africa white genocide scenario, or a racial civil war that would probably devastate the country. Or some awful Lebanon-like scenario where everything is carefully managed to maintain balance between the major groups.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Mr. Anon

    This is somewhat ironic as Frum has actually been arguing for immigration restriction, in the pages of the Atlantic no less.

    A perusal of his recent articles in The Levantine don’t turn up much on the topic of immigration. Most of it is Trump-Bad, Trump-Must-Be-Impeached, etc. If Frum does argue for immigration restriction, he seems to think he should be the only one allowed do so (since he presumes to write actual American conservatives out of American conservatism) or that nobody whould be permitted to do so except in his way.

  115. @Hail
    In other Tucker Carlson news, he had Scott Adams on his show tonight.

    In Adams' segment, the two discussed who has more cult-like tendencies, core Trump supporters or Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers. Adams said definitely the latter.

    Now that Scott Adams is in, is Steve Sailer next?

    Replies: @216, @Anonymous, @Polynikes, @AndrewR, @Harry Baldwin, @AnotherDad, @Matra, @Antiwar7

    Adams claims he is still classically liberal. But he’s made it clear for a while now that if the choice is the new coalition of the fringes and their sjw leaders vs Trump style populism, that he’d gladly take the latter.

  116. @ben tillman
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Isaiah 60:16 --

    Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings[.]

    Replies: @HammerJack

    Is there any substantial part of the Old Testament that is not completely psychotic?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @HammerJack

    The Psalms.

    , @ben tillman
    @HammerJack

    Be fruitful and multiply?

  117. @Anonymous
    @bigdicknick


    jewish intelligence doesn’t extend to self awareness. It’s their achilles heel.
     
    It’s a strength. A man who believes his own BS is more confident, more persuasive.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @bigdicknick, @I Have Scinde

    It’s a strength until its not. Not many ethnic groups have been kicked out of a hundred different countries.

    • Agree: AndrewR
  118. @Flip
    @Anonymous

    Ruled by emotion rather than logic

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Ruled by emotion rather than logic

    Even granting that for the sake of argument, what does it have to do with the “con game” the commenter refers to?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Anonymous

    I was referring to instinct more than emotion, but the abscence of critical reflection does impede the operation of logic, exacerbating the problem.

    The problem itself is the susceptibility of the female of the species to displays of groundless confidence, such as those upon which con games are based.

  119. @Hibernian
    @Bardon Kaldian

    "...plus culturally assimilated groups of other Europeans (white phenotype, English language, Western culture & American historical traditions);..."

    As one of those other Europeans I think we were kind of separate until quite recently, and I lean towards the notion that we still are to a certain extent and that's a good thing.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    we still are to a certain extent and that’s a good thing.

    Why is that a good thing?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Anonymous

    At the risk of sounding like E. Michael Jones our our friend Jake, I think my subculture (not limited to the Irish) is a good alternative to WASP "progressivism" on the one hand and Southern/Rural Midwestern fundamentalism on the other. A Golden Mean of sorts.

  120. Message to David Frum: Uh…the Cold War is, like, over?

  121. @inertial
    Did you ever wonder where white race's capital was? Now you know! Thanks, Mr. Frum.

    Replies: @Hail, @Romanian

    I’d rather it was in Vienna or Geneva than in Moscow.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Romanian


    I’d rather it was in Vienna or Geneva than in Moscow.
     
    Or Vienna and Dallas, like the old dual monarchy.

    Replies: @Romanian

  122. @Jesse
    @Anonymous

    Oh. My. GOD. Who the hell cares?

    The criticism that the pro Israel side is sublimating their love of race on a tiny rat hole in the ME has some validity.

    But so does the other side. There is literally no reason to side with a bunch of random Muslims (who, BTW, are doing to us what they whine about the Israelis doing to them) other than cowardice. You're angry at the Jewish elites in the West, but too terrified of them to go after them directly. So you sublimate it on a conflict that has nothing to do with you.

    (And don't give me that bull about "all that money" going to Israel. The US subsidizes and takes orders from many, many countries and groups. Somehow, none of them stir up this level of rage. Somehow.)

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd, @nebulafox, @Anon, @Joe Schmoe

    I agree 100%. Of course, the Palestinians are the victims, but it isn’t my fight. And I care even less because Muslims generally side with Jews against the majorities once they are in the West. As far as I’m concerned, both groups should be bottled up in the ME.

    I also resent the ever-expanding ethnic food/products aisles in my local stores, since I they infringe on my ability to buy things that I have bought for decades, that are now available only online.

  123. @216
    Ramzan Kadyrov

    Hero of the White Race

    Role model for millions of young white men

    Riding the Tiger with Mike Tyson

    Replies: @anonynous

    Can you tell us a little more about who Ramzan Kadyrov is?

    I take it by your reference to Mike Tyson that he is some type of boxer/MMA fighter.

    It has been a rather pleasant surprise to me that (middle and heavier weight) White European/White British boxers and MMA/UFC have done very well these last 20 years, in contrast when I was a youth/teen in the 1970s, 80s Black African Americans completely dominated – poor Jerry Quary was our only representative and he was getting soundly beaten by the likes of Muhammed Ali, Joe Frazier though he did destroy Ernie Shavers managed by a very insulting hate White people manager Don King.

    This is a way to inspire our youth and get them away from worshipping NFL felons, rap “singers” – instead get them interested in very competitive, very successful boxers and MMS fighters that look and think like us.

    Sorry to see the once very promisting British/Irish gypsy heavy weight champion Tyson Fury is now playing the role of a clown, getting in to the cursed fake wrestling WWF – what a waste thate world is. Tyson Fury had once been a very honorable spokesman for traditional Catholic Christianity, traditional patriotism and even named the Js once or twice as monopolizing our media and corrupting our children.

    So who is this Ramzan Kadyrov

    • Replies: @Hunsdon
    @anonynous

    LMGTFY. No, why don't you Google it for yourself?

    , @AndrewR
    @anonynous

    Lmaoooooooo. Is this a troll post?

  124. @Mr. Anon
    Given that David Frum is from Canada, one might accuse him of triple loyalty.

    Nah, who am I kidding. It's still just one loyalty.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Redneck farmer, @anonynous

    But is really “loyalty” to any country, to any people, to any… well, anything?

    Isn’t it more obsessions with hating other countries, other peoples, hating most everything, being paranoid, thinking everyone is out to get you and when these hatreds become and open, noticed obsession and when these hateful people start to dominate the American mainstream media, dominate Conservative inc media, be the leading speech writers for supposedly Conservative American US presidents writing insane, violent speeches like the worst ever “Axis of Evil” speech, then, doesn’t it become a self fulfilling prophesy that regular people who are loyal to their countries, loyal to their families, their communities their people will notice these other hateful people and well, want to at least resist them.

  125. @JohnnyD
    This must be Frum's encore to his notorious 2003 "Unpatriotic Conservatives" piece.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2003/03/unpatriotic-conservatives-david-frum/

    Replies: @anonynous

    Yeah, I remember that worst ever NR David Frum hit piece. It confirmed my worst suspicions that American mainstream conservatism had been taken over by Neo Trotsky Zionist Neo Conservatives who were doing what the Stalinist once did to them:

    Purge anyone that opposed their total power.

    What kind of real American conservatism is indifferent to the mass migrant invasion of our country , of the forced change of our country from a once stable, happy and prosperous 1st world European American country in to …. 3rd world slums of drugs, disease and despair? What kind of Conservative American heading the leading Conservative magazine with “National” in their magazine name, what kind of honest Conservative simply doesn’t care about defending our nation, doing real “National Defense”? And then this same type demands we jump in to every single Middle East tribal, Islamic sectarian conflict and just, forment anarchy and mass slaughter in any kind near Israel.

  126. @anon
    @Desiderius


    "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one." - Charles Mackay, author of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds
     

    Replies: @Desiderius

  127. So we really don’t need to get into a tank war on the Eastern Front.

    The tank commanders must make sure they have plenty of coffee bought from Jon’s Supermarket in Valley Village, California, before they storm through the Folger’s Gap. There will be no pit stops for coffee leaking so they must bring empty gallon milk jugs.

    Haven’t read the comments, but I remember Ron Unz don’t like that David Frum too much. I think Frum is somewhat funny, but I also don’t forgive him for attacking Pat Buchanan and the other patriotic Americans who were right to voice skepticism about the Iraq War debacle pushed by George W Bush and the Jew-controlled Neo-Conservative faction in the Republican Party.

    Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton both voted to give George W Bush authority to start the Iraq War debacle, although that sleazebag whore Biden says he didn’t. If Joe Biden wins the Democrat Party nomination for president, his Iraq War vote will give millions a good reason to vote GREEN PARTY.

    Tweets from 2015:

  128. @Jesse
    @Lot

    Great. Now talk about restricting the vote based on race. You wouldn't dare.

    This, folks, is why the far right will never win. It's full of white men talking smack about women as a way of avoiding talking about racial issues, and expecting praise for their bravery.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @kihowi, @AnotherDad, @Alden

    I would.

    But I’m not even right, let alone far right. I’m not talking smack about my women at all. Love ’em to death. Women of the time were largely opposed to the 19th Amendment – it was the vanity of men that led them to believe that women long to emulate them.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Desiderius


    But I’m not even right, let alone far right. I’m not talking smack about my women at all. Love ’em to death. Women of the time were largely opposed to the 19th Amendment – it was the vanity of men that led them to believe that women long to emulate them.
     
    What then is this con game you speak of?

    Replies: @Desiderius

    , @Desiderius
    @Desiderius

    That was a misread. I would restrict the vote to American men with families.

    Not by race.

    Replies: @Jesse, @AnotherDad

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Desiderius


    Women of the time were largely opposed to the 19th Amendment – it was the vanity of men that led them to believe that women long to emulate them.
     
    "Betas" love apologizing to feminists for their purported brutality. "Somebody thinks I'm a man!"

    As with the ERA, men listened to the wrong women. For a good half-century after 1920, women voted more conservatively than men. (I read once that the Tories in the UK owe all their 20th century victories to the women's vote, as well.)

    I don't care for suffragists, but my favorite has to be Jeannette Rankin, who, as Montana's representative in the House, voted against our entry into both World Wars. She couldn't go, and she refused to send anyone else.

    Likewise, Sylvia Pankhurst, despite being a communist and Abyssiniphile, deserves respect for calling out her mother and sister for their war support.

    Replies: @Rob McX

  129. @Anonymous
    @bigdicknick


    jewish intelligence doesn’t extend to self awareness. It’s their achilles heel.
     
    It’s a strength. A man who believes his own BS is more confident, more persuasive.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @bigdicknick, @I Have Scinde

    Certainly, this is true in baseball, as in “Bull Durham:”

  130. @Anonymous
    @Lot


    We should have kept the franchise more limited,
     
    Why though? What is your argument in support it doing that? And what does women voting have to do with a “con game,” as the other commenter?

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Lot

    “Con” is short for “confidence.”

    Entirely aside from the franchise, one should be aware of the primacy of confidence produced by the broad one that exists.

  131. Anonymous[302] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius
    @Jesse

    I would.

    But I'm not even right, let alone far right. I'm not talking smack about my women at all. Love 'em to death. Women of the time were largely opposed to the 19th Amendment - it was the vanity of men that led them to believe that women long to emulate them.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar

    But I’m not even right, let alone far right. I’m not talking smack about my women at all. Love ’em to death. Women of the time were largely opposed to the 19th Amendment – it was the vanity of men that led them to believe that women long to emulate them.

    What then is this con game you speak of?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Anonymous

    Neocons conning women.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @S. Anonyia

  132. Ron Unz on David Frum’s attack on Iraq War skeptics(2018):

    Certainly none of these venal sins were any worse than those regularly committed by so many other media outlets, but the only advantages enjoyed by a tiny publication such as TAC had been its journalistic integrity and its willingness to ignore the boundaries of respectable punditry and establishment media opinion. Former Bush speechwriter David Frum had famously issued a 2003 fatwa excommunicating all the “unpatriotic conservatives” aligned with TAC for their strong opposition to the Iraq War, but by late 2012 he was praising TAC for finally having become a responsible media outlet, which may or may not have been much of a compliment.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/why-the-american-conservative-purged-its-own-publisher/?highlight=frum

  133. @Anonymous
    @Hail


    Now that Scott Adams is in, is Steve Sailer next?
     
    There are signs that Steve may finally be warming up to Trump.

    Replies: @Moses

    There are signs that Steve may finally be warming up to Trump.

    There are signs that Steve may finally be warming to a lot of things.

  134. David Frum, Jonah Goldberg, even John Podhoretz.

    A lot of the time, maybe even most of the time, they can seem pleasant (OK, maybe not J Pod), self-effacing, even funny.

    But the second they sense someone is even sniffing around the possibility that their viewpoint might be shaped by loyalties to, um, let’s just say some group which might have distinct interests from the Gentile citizens of the USA, and it’s like a switch flips, and they start in with the most blood curdling invective, profanity, and irrationality. Totally unhinged. It’s something you never see from a supposed bogey man like Pat Buchanan.

  135. @Altai
    Can somebody explain to me, how exactly, this dual loyalty of shouty American chauvinists and a foreign power is supposed to be mediated?

    Can somebody ask the David Frums of the world to tell us?

    Replies: @Moses

    Can somebody explain to me, how exactly, this dual loyalty of shouty American chauvinists and a foreign power is supposed to be mediated?

    Oh, there is no conflict re: dual loyalty, believe me. They are loyal to one group only.

    • Replies: @utu
    @Moses

    "Dual loyalty would be an improvement." - Joseph Sobran

    http://www.sobran.com/columns/2003/030218.shtml

  136. More Ron Unz on David Frum’s attacks on Iraq War skeptics(2019):

    In the wake of 9/11, the Israel-centric Neocons had somehow managed to seize control of the Bush Administration while also gaining complete ascendancy over America’s leading media outlets, purging or intimidating most of their critics. Although Saddam Hussein clearly had no connection to the attacks, his status as a possible regional rival to Israel had established him as their top target, and they soon began beating the drums for war, with America finally launching its disastrous invasion in FebruaryMarch 2003.

    Among print magazines, TAC stood almost alone in whole-hearted opposition to these policies, and had attracted considerable attention when Founding Editor Pat Buchanan published “Whose War?”, pointing the finger of blame directly at the Jewish Neocons responsible, a truth very widely recognized in political and media circles but almost never publicly voiced. David Frum, a leading promoter of the Iraq War, had almost simultaneously unleashed a National Review cover story denouncing as “unpatriotic”—and perhaps “anti-Semitic”—a very long list of conservative, liberal, and libertarian war critics, with Buchanan near the very top, and the controversy and name-calling continued for some time.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-understanding-world-war-ii/?highlight=frum

  137. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Art Deco

    You really have no idea how any of this works at all, do you.

    Actually I'm quite certain you do know exactly how it works, you're just pretending not to for strategic purposes.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    You really have no idea how any of this works at all, do you.

    I’m not addled by social and political fantasies. That’s your problem, not that of any normal person.

  138. @Colin Wright
    This kind of lets the cat out of the bag about who the 'Neo-Cons' are and what their agenda is, doesn't it?

    Replies: @Barnard, @CrunchyButRealistCon, @The Anti-Gnostic, @gsjackson, @S. Anonyia

    I haven’t seen them this angry since great-uncle Moishe got sent back to the Pale.

  139. @Art Deco
    @anon

    David Frum is an ethnocentric bigot like all members of his group.

    Yeah, that's why he married a shiksa.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Moses

    Yeah, that’s why he married a shiksa.

    From Wikipedia:

    The etymology of the word shiksa is partly derived from the Hebrew term שקץ shekets, meaning “abomination”, “impure,” or “object of loathing”, depending on the translator.[30] Several dictionaries define shiksa as a disparaging and offensive term applied to a non-Jewish girl or woman.[31][32] In 2014, Rabbi Jack Abramowitz described it as “simply indefensible”, “inherently condescending, racist and misogynistic”.[33]

    Shiksa

    Abomination. Impure. Object of loathing.

    Used casually by Art Deco for a Gentile woman. Also used by my fellow Jews to describe Gentile women in national television programs like Seinfeld.

    What do they mean when they use this word? We may never know.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Moses

    “my fellow Jews”

    Wait, you’re not just a rando nut, but an ethnomasochist antisemite? You need an Unz column!

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Stan Adams
    @Moses

    I'm a goy, but I spend a lot of time around Jews. I've been considering starting up a new advice column called "Ask Bubbe."

    Typical question:


    Dear Bubbe,

    A few years ago, I married a beautiful woman. I thought we were very happy. But the other day, I came home and she was shtupping the pool guy. What should I do?

    Maury Feldstein
     
    Bubbe sez:

    Dear Maury,

    If you had listened to your mother, and your bubbe, and your other female relatives, and if you had married a nice Jewish girl instead of some shiksa with big tits, you wouldn't be in this situation right now. So my advice to you is to ditch the bitch and mate with your own kind. Hire a good divorce lawyer and rake the c**t over the coals.

    Love,
    Bubbe
     
    Does it ring true?

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    , @Art Deco
    @Moses

    It was a banal and mildly derisive term applied (by a skeptical grandmother) to my sister, among others. Rabbi Abramowitz needs to grow a sense of humor.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Dissident, @Moses

  140. @Jesse
    @Anonymous

    Oh. My. GOD. Who the hell cares?

    The criticism that the pro Israel side is sublimating their love of race on a tiny rat hole in the ME has some validity.

    But so does the other side. There is literally no reason to side with a bunch of random Muslims (who, BTW, are doing to us what they whine about the Israelis doing to them) other than cowardice. You're angry at the Jewish elites in the West, but too terrified of them to go after them directly. So you sublimate it on a conflict that has nothing to do with you.

    (And don't give me that bull about "all that money" going to Israel. The US subsidizes and takes orders from many, many countries and groups. Somehow, none of them stir up this level of rage. Somehow.)

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd, @nebulafox, @Anon, @Joe Schmoe

    >Oh. My. GOD. Who the hell cares?

    Yes, sir! Somebody who gets it! That a superpower might, just might have better things to do than emotionally invest itself in Semitic squabbling over inheritance issues!

    Seriously, leave them to it. Nothing good ever comes out of that part of the world.

  141. @Senor Moose
    The neocons have been thirsting for another Cold War for some time. But they need a grand ideological conflict to justify it. And since the US and Russia are both basically kleptocratic regimes, the grand ideological conflict doesn’t exist on an economic level. So they’ve settled on an ideological conflict where the US is the empire of “diversity is our strength,” while Russia and its sphere of influence stands against that.

    This is obviously a grotesque distortion of reality, but it serves the purpose of people like Frum: They want to start a hunt for “the enemies within.”

    Replies: @nebulafox

    It doesn’t even require that you be a neocon, just a member of America’s bipartisan elite with its assumptions about how the world should work, assumptions that are so reinforced and coddled that genuine incomprehension results when they run into somebody (like Putin) who views the world differently. You can’t really understand Obama and Putin butting heads in non-ideological terms, and Obama, whatever his flaws, was no neocon.

    Russia has the GDP of Mexico, one that is constantly bled dry by severe corruption, and in stark contrast to the old USSR, cannot project power outside of long-time satellites or areas with ethnic Russians in them. To say that it is the main threat the US faces in the world is ludicrous. Russia actually chooses to invest in a conventional military, unlike most of Europe, so they can vastly overpower them without us around, but it is hardly Moscow’s fault that the Europeans buy into the fantasy that they can have a US-style high-tech military for only a tenth of the budget.

    • Agree: S. Anonyia
    • Replies: @Jack Henson
    @nebulafox

    Russia's "conventional" military has actually been winning wars though.

  142. David Frum and David Corn are indistinguishable

  143. @MEH 0910
    @Sherry Khan

    https://twitter.com/sairasameerarao/status/1197991760322072578

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    The teacher must be trolling them: How many Swatikas can you find in this puzzle?

  144. @Pincher Martin
    @Massimo Heitor


    It’s interesting that Frum has been one of the loudest voices for immigration enforcement and limits that stresses that nations should strictly serve the interests of existing citizens not potential future citizens.
     
    That's not true.

    Frum has, over the three decades he has been in the public eye, occasionally mentioned restricting immigration, but he's certainly not been "one of the loudest voices for immigration enforcement and limits." His volume on the issue and his frequency talking about it have varied greatly. He's never been for immigration restriction, for example, to nearly the same degree he's been for Israel or against Trump.

    Replies: @chris moffatt

    David Frum is a loser from Toronto who couldn’t make it in Canada despite riding his mother’s coat tails. So he came to the USA where he’s been making an idiot of himself ever since. If the USA had a coherent immigration policy he probably wouldn’t be here.

    • Replies: @utu
    @chris moffatt

    David Frum was one of Richard's Perle's men in the WH. On 9/11/2001 it was Richard Perle who had this statement

    We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them.

    inserted in Bush's address.

    , @Art Deco
    @chris moffatt

    David Frum is a loser from Toronto who couldn’t make it in Canada despite riding his mother’s coat tails.

    He has a degree from Yale Law School and landed a position at the Wall Street Journal. The term 'loser' doesn't mean what you think it means.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @SunBakedSuburb, @Jack Henson

  145. @Sean
    @Bill B.

    John von Neumann (and Bertrand Russell) advocated threatening or actually using a nuclear strike against the Soviet Union to prevent it acquiring the atomic bomb.After that golden opportunity was lost, liberals went to saying they would bear any burden and make any sacrifice but they it's just rhetoric.

    There was no longer a bipolar world, which was quite stable, and there was a war of words and through proxies. Now there is China, so it is multipolar and so the world is less stable. However the US and Russia are never going to fight because one side would lose and then stop fighting conventionally and go nuclear. And after that specimen strike there would be no way to stop a tit for tat. Hence annoying Russia is safe because there is no possibility war with them. The neocons as chickenhawks.

    If all peoples do not want to live in liberal democracies then they can’t live together right?
     

    No, they live in seperate countries and do not get a choice where they are born.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    No, they live in seperate countries and do not get a choice where they are born.

    Hey, if they can freely choose their gender, why can’t they freely choose their nationality?

  146. I always wanted to thank Canada for David Frum. He was a major figure in the run-up to Iraq. Just like I routinely thank Ireland for Samantha Power. Two cases for shutting down all immigration until we can figure out what the hell’s going on.

    • Replies: @utu
    @Bragadocious

    And you can think Australia for Marin Indyk.

    , @Art Deco
    @Bragadocious

    He wasn't a major figure at all. He was an opinion journalist advocating a position along side of scores of other opinion journalists.

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @Massimo Heitor

    , @Dan Hayes
    @Bragadocious

    Bragadocious:

    Send Samantha Power back to the new, reorganized Modern Ireland where she would fit right in as a replacement for the over-the-hill Mary Robinson.

  147. O/T

    Don’t know if you have seen the commercial on TV in which a twenties something person stands front face to the screen. Anyway, going by the face, it seems to be a young man but the hips are pear-shaped like a woman’s. Xe is as flat chested as a typical male but the groin area is flat as a woman’s. There’s no bulge down there and the center seam of xizes jeans conforms to the body of a woman.

    Trannies (or ambiguies) have now gone mainscreen.

    Xi reminded me of the pharaoh Akhenaton (yeah, that’s a dude).

    • Replies: @Ozymandias
    @ThreeCranes

    It has been proposed that Akhenaten had Marfan Syndrome.

  148. @Sherry Khan
    @Gaius Gracchus

    I am an American and so are my husband and Children.
    Who on this earth are you to tell me about where I should move?
    Racist and Disgusting what you just said

    Replies: @SFG, @ThreeCranes, @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @William Badwhite, @OilcanFloyd, @J.Ross, @Gaius Gracchus, @Daniel Chieh, @Kylie, @Joe Schmoe

    I am an American and so are my husband and Children

    Sure, that’s nice, but you have to go back.

    • Replies: @Sherry Khan
    @Athletic and Whitesplosive

    You can't do anything.
    We are here to stay and don't forget you and your progeny will be and should be persecuted and dispossessed for behaving like this.
    Trump will lose so badly that it will send a shiver down the spine of you and your Nazi colleagues.
    It's payback time.
    Let's see who wins: Trashy Whites like you who behave like bigots or progressives like me who embrace multiculturalism.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Johann Ricke, @Ozymandias, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

  149. @anonynous
    @216

    Can you tell us a little more about who Ramzan Kadyrov is?

    I take it by your reference to Mike Tyson that he is some type of boxer/MMA fighter.

    It has been a rather pleasant surprise to me that (middle and heavier weight) White European/White British boxers and MMA/UFC have done very well these last 20 years, in contrast when I was a youth/teen in the 1970s, 80s Black African Americans completely dominated - poor Jerry Quary was our only representative and he was getting soundly beaten by the likes of Muhammed Ali, Joe Frazier though he did destroy Ernie Shavers managed by a very insulting hate White people manager Don King.

    This is a way to inspire our youth and get them away from worshipping NFL felons, rap "singers" - instead get them interested in very competitive, very successful boxers and MMS fighters that look and think like us.

    Sorry to see the once very promisting British/Irish gypsy heavy weight champion Tyson Fury is now playing the role of a clown, getting in to the cursed fake wrestling WWF - what a waste thate world is. Tyson Fury had once been a very honorable spokesman for traditional Catholic Christianity, traditional patriotism and even named the Js once or twice as monopolizing our media and corrupting our children.

    So who is this Ramzan Kadyrov

    Replies: @Hunsdon, @AndrewR

    LMGTFY. No, why don’t you Google it for yourself?

  150. @Anon
    There a hilarious ethnic food dustup on Twitter now. BBC and WaPo have articles on it. Professor tweets that Indian food is horrible, gets called a racist, and is dotsplained how restaurant Indian food isn't Indian food to begin with. Then another professor tweets that Chinese food is sloppy, salty crap ...

    I'm waiting for statements from the University presidents to be released. Maybe WE DEMAND manifestos from a student "coalition." Demands for their firing. Or at least prevented from teaching required classes ...

    Replies: @Haruto Rat, @SunBakedSuburb, @Kolya Krassotkin

    Gefilte fish ain’t that great either.

    *runs, ducks, hides*

  151. @Reg Cæsar
    Multiracial? Frum is from Toronto, which he left. They claim to be the most multiracial city on earth.

    Not that anyone is competing for the title.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    Not that anyone is competing for the title.

    Not that other cities’ residents are competing for it. Rulers can’t get enough diversity.

  152. @BenKenobi
    @songbird

    I was very much looking forward to Trumpocalypse Now. To have Him out there, operating without any decent restraint. Totally beyond the pale of acceptable human conduct. With His magapede army, who worship Him as a God, and follow any order no matter how ridiculous.

    "I watched America crawling on the edge of a straight razor. And believe me, that's my dream folks. Maybe it's even my nightmare. You never know. Crawling on the edge of a straight razor, and surviving. Because I'm a survivor folks, nobody better survives better than me, believe me."

    Replies: @Bill B., @Jack Henson, @Tex, @Sam Malone, @Sam Malone

    “The saddest thing from poet’s pen
    Are the words : what could have been ”

  153. @Anonymous
    @Desiderius


    But I’m not even right, let alone far right. I’m not talking smack about my women at all. Love ’em to death. Women of the time were largely opposed to the 19th Amendment – it was the vanity of men that led them to believe that women long to emulate them.
     
    What then is this con game you speak of?

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Neocons conning women.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Desiderius


    Neocons conning women.
     
    How do they go about doing it?

    Replies: @Desiderius, @ben tillman

    , @S. Anonyia
    @Desiderius

    Judging by our “bipartisan” foreign policy consensus and the hawkish views of the upper brass of the military, they’ve conned an awful lot of men too.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  154. @Anonymous
    @Flip


    Ruled by emotion rather than logic
     
    Even granting that for the sake of argument, what does it have to do with the “con game” the commenter refers to?

    Replies: @Desiderius

    I was referring to instinct more than emotion, but the abscence of critical reflection does impede the operation of logic, exacerbating the problem.

    The problem itself is the susceptibility of the female of the species to displays of groundless confidence, such as those upon which con games are based.

  155. @Moses
    @Altai


    Can somebody explain to me, how exactly, this dual loyalty of shouty American chauvinists and a foreign power is supposed to be mediated?
     
    Oh, there is no conflict re: dual loyalty, believe me. They are loyal to one group only.

    Replies: @utu

    “Dual loyalty would be an improvement.” – Joseph Sobran

    http://www.sobran.com/columns/2003/030218.shtml

  156. @Sherry Khan
    @Gaius Gracchus

    I am an American and so are my husband and Children.
    Who on this earth are you to tell me about where I should move?
    Racist and Disgusting what you just said

    Replies: @SFG, @ThreeCranes, @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @William Badwhite, @OilcanFloyd, @J.Ross, @Gaius Gracchus, @Daniel Chieh, @Kylie, @Joe Schmoe

    You already said your husband was Pakistani.

  157. @BenKenobi
    @songbird

    I was very much looking forward to Trumpocalypse Now. To have Him out there, operating without any decent restraint. Totally beyond the pale of acceptable human conduct. With His magapede army, who worship Him as a God, and follow any order no matter how ridiculous.

    "I watched America crawling on the edge of a straight razor. And believe me, that's my dream folks. Maybe it's even my nightmare. You never know. Crawling on the edge of a straight razor, and surviving. Because I'm a survivor folks, nobody better survives better than me, believe me."

    Replies: @Bill B., @Jack Henson, @Tex, @Sam Malone, @Sam Malone

    I was very much looking forward to Trumpocalypse Now. To have Him out there, operating without any decent restraint. Totally beyond the pale of acceptable human conduct. With His magapede army, who worship Him as a God, and follow any order no matter how ridiculous.

    I picture the St. Patrick Klavern from the Lower East Side at the front of the horde.

  158. @chris moffatt
    @Pincher Martin

    David Frum is a loser from Toronto who couldn't make it in Canada despite riding his mother's coat tails. So he came to the USA where he's been making an idiot of himself ever since. If the USA had a coherent immigration policy he probably wouldn't be here.

    Replies: @utu, @Art Deco

    David Frum was one of Richard’s Perle’s men in the WH. On 9/11/2001 it was Richard Perle who had this statement

    We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them.

    inserted in Bush’s address.

  159. @Bragadocious
    I always wanted to thank Canada for David Frum. He was a major figure in the run-up to Iraq. Just like I routinely thank Ireland for Samantha Power. Two cases for shutting down all immigration until we can figure out what the hell's going on.

    Replies: @utu, @Art Deco, @Dan Hayes

    And you can think Australia for Marin Indyk.

  160. @Hail
    In other Tucker Carlson news, he had Scott Adams on his show tonight.

    In Adams' segment, the two discussed who has more cult-like tendencies, core Trump supporters or Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers. Adams said definitely the latter.

    Now that Scott Adams is in, is Steve Sailer next?

    Replies: @216, @Anonymous, @Polynikes, @AndrewR, @Harry Baldwin, @AnotherDad, @Matra, @Antiwar7

    It seems to be an even match.

    The vast majority of Trump’s behavior is completely indefensible, and Trump himself has turned out to be the most incompetent president in history by orders of magnitude, yet he still has hordes of mindless fans who support him just to “own the libs.”

  161. @anonynous
    @216

    Can you tell us a little more about who Ramzan Kadyrov is?

    I take it by your reference to Mike Tyson that he is some type of boxer/MMA fighter.

    It has been a rather pleasant surprise to me that (middle and heavier weight) White European/White British boxers and MMA/UFC have done very well these last 20 years, in contrast when I was a youth/teen in the 1970s, 80s Black African Americans completely dominated - poor Jerry Quary was our only representative and he was getting soundly beaten by the likes of Muhammed Ali, Joe Frazier though he did destroy Ernie Shavers managed by a very insulting hate White people manager Don King.

    This is a way to inspire our youth and get them away from worshipping NFL felons, rap "singers" - instead get them interested in very competitive, very successful boxers and MMS fighters that look and think like us.

    Sorry to see the once very promisting British/Irish gypsy heavy weight champion Tyson Fury is now playing the role of a clown, getting in to the cursed fake wrestling WWF - what a waste thate world is. Tyson Fury had once been a very honorable spokesman for traditional Catholic Christianity, traditional patriotism and even named the Js once or twice as monopolizing our media and corrupting our children.

    So who is this Ramzan Kadyrov

    Replies: @Hunsdon, @AndrewR

    Lmaoooooooo. Is this a troll post?

  162. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @HammerJack
    @Colin Wright

    At this point, I can't think of anything bad about Tucker Carlson. About the Democrats, he said this yesterday:


    "This is what happens when you let Jeff Zucker run your political party."

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-blames-media-for-impeachment-push-says-democrats-have-lost
     

    Idk, maybe his haircut?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Realist

    At this point, I can’t think of anything bad about Tucker Carlson. About the Democrats, he said this yesterday:

    “This is what happens when you let Jeff Zucker run your political party.”

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-blames-media-for-impeachment-push-says-democrats-have-lost

    Idk, maybe his haircut?

    He put on some weight. I’m not fat-shaming mind you.

  163. @Colin Wright
    'David Frum Accuses Tucker Carlson...'

    Ergo, there's at least something good about Tucker Carlson.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Prof. Woland, @Richard B

    I have no doubt that one of the main reasons Russia is enemy #1 on the left in this country is that they are white. Due to the extreme diversity in their coalition, the main thing that unites them is what they are against not what they are for. And the more diverse they become, the more unstable their coalition.

    Their constant need for demagoguery to glue themselves together feeds into all aspects including foreign policy. China is much more threatening and amoral but they are non-white. Same for Islam. But they way it works on the left, this cannot be noticed which places even more focus on Putin. In a sense, they are not even a proxy like assault weapons or the flag. They are the real deal; white, blue eyed, and blond.

    • Replies: @Prof. Woland
    @Prof. Woland

    One other thing ... Russians have a much greater awareness of their own ethnicity and are in-grouped which means they can see right through Jews unlike American whites making them much more threatening to (((certain))) people that don't exist as an ethnic group and are really just regular people like everybody else. All the more reason to destroy them totally both here and there.

    Putin's neutering of the Jewish Oligarchs when he came to power has not been forgotten by their fellow travelers including Soros and his ilk. It fouled up their plans to have their way with the Russians including breaking the country apart and looting it. Putin saved Russia from a catastrophe and he is hated for it; by all the right people of course.

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow, @Dmitry

    , @Colin Wright
    @Prof. Woland

    'I have no doubt that one of the main reasons Russia is enemy #1 on the left in this country is that they are white...'

    I genuinely fail to understand where the 'it's the Rooshians' thing came from -- or even how the Left can seriously advance it.

    Let's leave aside the fact of the matter: Russia isn't the foreign power that influences our policies.

    There's also the point that I'm old enough to remember -- and so is most of the Left -- when it was the Left that was for detente and coexistence, and all that.

    ...and that's when Russia was a genuine threat, with both the ideology and the means to bring about global catastrophe.

    Now Russia is at worst somewhat troublesome -- and here's the Left, banging the drum for provocation.

    Go figure. Whatever their motives, they sure as hell aren't being honest about them.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Kolya Krassotkin
    @Prof. Woland

    The lefties and the neocons (same thing?) still hate Russia for Stalin handing their grandaddies their Trotskyite asses 90 years ago.

  164. link

    At the link is Frum’s Twitter timeline filtered for the word “Israel” — scroll thru it to decide if his nationalism “attaches” to Israel as much or more than it does to the US.

    I have no idea why you wasted any of your time on such a lowbrow potshot from this vapid, hypocritical Jew.

  165. @Sherry Khan
    @Gaius Gracchus

    I am an American and so are my husband and Children.
    Who on this earth are you to tell me about where I should move?
    Racist and Disgusting what you just said

    Replies: @SFG, @ThreeCranes, @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @William Badwhite, @OilcanFloyd, @J.Ross, @Gaius Gracchus, @Daniel Chieh, @Kylie, @Joe Schmoe

    The American people were never asked if we wanted our demographics changed. You really should go home.

    And why would we want foreigners who think they can end any argument by screaming racism in our midst? Just go home. You are not an American, and you can never be an American, just like I could never be a Pakistani, Chinese, Latino, Jew, etc..

  166. @Hail
    In other Tucker Carlson news, he had Scott Adams on his show tonight.

    In Adams' segment, the two discussed who has more cult-like tendencies, core Trump supporters or Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers. Adams said definitely the latter.

    Now that Scott Adams is in, is Steve Sailer next?

    Replies: @216, @Anonymous, @Polynikes, @AndrewR, @Harry Baldwin, @AnotherDad, @Matra, @Antiwar7

    Scott Adams carries the black mark of supporting Trump, but as far as I know he has never been accused of being racist, except insofar as supporting Trump is prima facia proof of racism.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Harry Baldwin

    “ except insofar as supporting Trump is prima facia proof of racism.”

    Unfortunately that isn’t just the state of things in humanities departments, but polite company in elite circles like giant silicon valley companies like Uber and Google. (Apple, Facebook, and Microsoft have been resistant to going that far).

    Replies: @nebulafox

  167. @Prof. Woland
    @Colin Wright

    I have no doubt that one of the main reasons Russia is enemy #1 on the left in this country is that they are white. Due to the extreme diversity in their coalition, the main thing that unites them is what they are against not what they are for. And the more diverse they become, the more unstable their coalition.

    Their constant need for demagoguery to glue themselves together feeds into all aspects including foreign policy. China is much more threatening and amoral but they are non-white. Same for Islam. But they way it works on the left, this cannot be noticed which places even more focus on Putin. In a sense, they are not even a proxy like assault weapons or the flag. They are the real deal; white, blue eyed, and blond.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland, @Colin Wright, @Kolya Krassotkin

    One other thing … Russians have a much greater awareness of their own ethnicity and are in-grouped which means they can see right through Jews unlike American whites making them much more threatening to (((certain))) people that don’t exist as an ethnic group and are really just regular people like everybody else. All the more reason to destroy them totally both here and there.

    Putin’s neutering of the Jewish Oligarchs when he came to power has not been forgotten by their fellow travelers including Soros and his ilk. It fouled up their plans to have their way with the Russians including breaking the country apart and looting it. Putin saved Russia from a catastrophe and he is hated for it; by all the right people of course.

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    @Prof. Woland

    I think the oligarchs still looted quite a bit before Putin dropped the hammer, but you are right, Putin is very much a nationalist and quite unapologetic about it. To the modern left, this is horrible, if he were just saying it to get reelected, but privately was all in on the globalization game they might tolerate it, but he actually likes his country and his own people, which to American political elites is just ridiculous and the mark of insanity.

    , @Dmitry
    @Prof. Woland

    It's true that Putin has stabilized the cultural and economic situation.

    Lol in relation Jews - normally, criticism of Putin on this particular topic, is precisely the opposite: that Putin loves too much Jewish billionaires, and his Jewish friends co-incidentally became billionaires, after Putin became president.

    It's funny what you read comment on this website, is often inverse to a "normal view" - or a "normal antisemitic view" (note - I do not support such views or consider them "normal", but use "normal view" to refer to the common position of people who dislike Jews).

    In Russia, if people particularly dislike Jews, then will often start writing conspiracy theories about Putin, as a personal eccentricity of Putin is how he is more philosemitic than most Jews are.


    -


    I don't think any other world leader hosts Keren Hayesod charity events, and supports Jewish charities for fighting against xenophobia/historical revisionism. I don't think Merkel or Macron, or any other European leader has such a good relationship with the Jewish community.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG0GPyY_Kqw

  168. @Moses
    @Art Deco


    Yeah, that’s why he married a shiksa.
     
    From Wikipedia:

    The etymology of the word shiksa is partly derived from the Hebrew term שקץ shekets, meaning "abomination", "impure," or "object of loathing", depending on the translator.[30] Several dictionaries define shiksa as a disparaging and offensive term applied to a non-Jewish girl or woman.[31][32] In 2014, Rabbi Jack Abramowitz described it as "simply indefensible", "inherently condescending, racist and misogynistic".[33]

     

    Shiksa

    Abomination. Impure. Object of loathing.

    Used casually by Art Deco for a Gentile woman. Also used by my fellow Jews to describe Gentile women in national television programs like Seinfeld.

    What do they mean when they use this word? We may never know.

    Replies: @Lot, @Stan Adams, @Art Deco

    “my fellow Jews”

    Wait, you’re not just a rando nut, but an ethnomasochist antisemite? You need an Unz column!

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Lot

    Okay, so he married a shiksa and she married a bedbug.

    Even?

    No? Why not?

  169. @Harry Baldwin
    @Hail

    Scott Adams carries the black mark of supporting Trump, but as far as I know he has never been accused of being racist, except insofar as supporting Trump is prima facia proof of racism.

    Replies: @Lot

    “ except insofar as supporting Trump is prima facia proof of racism.”

    Unfortunately that isn’t just the state of things in humanities departments, but polite company in elite circles like giant silicon valley companies like Uber and Google. (Apple, Facebook, and Microsoft have been resistant to going that far).

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Lot

    Self-censorship has the potential to bite the progressives in the butt because they are vastly underestimating how "radical" the views of non-progressive Americans are in the rightward direction. As people have commented, I'm pretty sure the Ross Douthat types read iSteve on the down-low. This cuts both ways. Your average BlueCheck liberal would think Steve is some raving white supremacist nut based on what they hear about him, which, of course, isn't accurate. But more perniciously, the centrist people they know and think are good people probably hold views that they would consider "extreme", and not in a good way: and they don't know that, because non-progressives know better than to voice them in an age where progressivism is becoming increasingly more like a religion.

    (There's also the fact that agreeing with or being open to some of the alt-right's premises, as SFG once mentioned, isn't the same as accepting the attitude or the conclusions. Believing there are racial gaps in average IQ-or just being agnostic on the matter, which, TBH, is really the only honest position to take if you haven't read tons on it-doesn't translate into believing that Jim Crow or lynching was justifiable.)

    This is particularly prominent in places like tech. Take HR 1044 as an example. Pretty much any programmer who is not Indian hates the bill the moment they learn about it, immigrants from other countries included. They have good reason to be, because the moment the quota on India is removed, everybody else is going to be swamped. The donors know that on some level: the media blackout exists for a reason. But I doubt the liberal true-believers do, which means that they'll overplay their hand on the DNC stage if the topic comes up.

    Replies: @Lot, @Jack D, @ben tillman

  170. @Jesse
    @Lot

    Great. Now talk about restricting the vote based on race. You wouldn't dare.

    This, folks, is why the far right will never win. It's full of white men talking smack about women as a way of avoiding talking about racial issues, and expecting praise for their bravery.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @kihowi, @AnotherDad, @Alden

    Stop looking at that 50%! What influence could they have? This 15% over here is much more interesting!”

    BTW, you’ll find that the “far right” talks about restricting the vote based on race all the time. Don’t just make stuff up because you’re angry.

  171. @Desiderius
    @Jesse

    I would.

    But I'm not even right, let alone far right. I'm not talking smack about my women at all. Love 'em to death. Women of the time were largely opposed to the 19th Amendment - it was the vanity of men that led them to believe that women long to emulate them.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar

    That was a misread. I would restrict the vote to American men with families.

    Not by race.

    • Replies: @Jesse
    @Desiderius

    Of course not. Racism might actually get you some blowback. It might require some courage. Rather hit at women, and join the circle jerk at your own amazingness.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Desiderius


    That was a misread. I would restrict the vote to American men with families.

     

    I agree with your thrust here. For a civilization/nation to survive it must have patriarchy. (Patriarchy is a necessary, but not sufficient condition for the creation and maintenance of civilization.)

    However--as i described in my reply to Jesse--i think there is a sort of "sex neutral" approach to this--and other issues (like divorce). The core principle is to prioritize the family as the unit. It's not men voting or women voting, but the family voting. A husband and wife with children who are self-supporting get one vote.

    This isn't as dramatic or effective as returning to manhood suffrage--or your patriarchal suffrage. But it is a lot more easy to sell and can potentially bring more "moms" on side. This straight up eliminates all the damage from single women and single mom parasites. And realistically it will quashes a huge percentage of the current cancer of "good white" wives cancelling out their husbands' votes.

    ~~

    Not by race.
     
    Agreed. The solution to intractable racial issues is separation--separate nations. This is the great political innovation of the West. Free nations instead of multicultural empires. It enables republican self-government and is the path--the only path--toward peace.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Jack D

  172. @Athletic and Whitesplosive
    @Sherry Khan


    I am an American and so are my husband and Children
     
    Sure, that's nice, but you have to go back.

    Replies: @Sherry Khan

    You can’t do anything.
    We are here to stay and don’t forget you and your progeny will be and should be persecuted and dispossessed for behaving like this.
    Trump will lose so badly that it will send a shiver down the spine of you and your Nazi colleagues.
    It’s payback time.
    Let’s see who wins: Trashy Whites like you who behave like bigots or progressives like me who embrace multiculturalism.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Sherry Khan

    'Let’s see who wins: Trashy Whites like you who behave like bigots or progressives like me who embrace multiculturalism.'

    Now, that's odd: you're 'progressive' and 'embrace multiculturalism,' but you just advocated persecuting and dispossessing 'trashy whites.'

    I guess it's just 'trashy whites' you would dispossess -- sort of like the Klan had no problem with 'good niggers.'

    Have I got this right?

    , @Johann Ricke
    @Sherry Khan


    We are here to stay and don’t forget you and your progeny will be and should be persecuted and dispossessed for behaving like this.
     
    In other words, you've basically expressed the views that you would have in your home country, in response to an unwelcome influx of outsiders, except you're expressing them in someone else's. Bravo.
    , @Ozymandias
    @Sherry Khan

    "Let’s see who wins: Trashy Whites like you who behave like bigots or progressives like me who embrace multiculturalism."

    So, when you've bred your race out of existence, you'll declare victory? I hope that every one of your relatives are just as enlightened as you are.

    , @MEH 0910
    @Sherry Khan


    It’s payback time.
     
    http://m.quickmeme.com/img/dc/dc062077a5d042cb2ccba84e8153a8ece4312f08e99d95e53ff2576f661e7052.jpg
    , @MEH 0910
    @Sherry Khan

    https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1200739453574287360

    https://heavy.com/news/2019/11/usman-khan/

  173. @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @istevefan, @schnellandine, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Gaius Gracchus, @Alfa158, @Chet Bradley, @nebulafox, @Bardon Kaldian, @MEH 0910, @Clyde, @Realist, @Tlotsi, @Malcolm X-Lax, @J1234, @The Anti-Gnostic, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @22pp22, @MBB, @imbroglio, @Joe Schmoe, @Bradley

    “My fellow white people” = Obvious Troll

  174. @Moses
    @Art Deco


    Yeah, that’s why he married a shiksa.
     
    From Wikipedia:

    The etymology of the word shiksa is partly derived from the Hebrew term שקץ shekets, meaning "abomination", "impure," or "object of loathing", depending on the translator.[30] Several dictionaries define shiksa as a disparaging and offensive term applied to a non-Jewish girl or woman.[31][32] In 2014, Rabbi Jack Abramowitz described it as "simply indefensible", "inherently condescending, racist and misogynistic".[33]

     

    Shiksa

    Abomination. Impure. Object of loathing.

    Used casually by Art Deco for a Gentile woman. Also used by my fellow Jews to describe Gentile women in national television programs like Seinfeld.

    What do they mean when they use this word? We may never know.

    Replies: @Lot, @Stan Adams, @Art Deco

    I’m a goy, but I spend a lot of time around Jews. I’ve been considering starting up a new advice column called “Ask Bubbe.”

    Typical question:

    Dear Bubbe,

    A few years ago, I married a beautiful woman. I thought we were very happy. But the other day, I came home and she was shtupping the pool guy. What should I do?

    Maury Feldstein

    Bubbe sez:

    Dear Maury,

    If you had listened to your mother, and your bubbe, and your other female relatives, and if you had married a nice Jewish girl instead of some shiksa with big tits, you wouldn’t be in this situation right now. So my advice to you is to ditch the bitch and mate with your own kind. Hire a good divorce lawyer and rake the c**t over the coals.

    Love,
    Bubbe

    Does it ring true?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Stan Adams

    'I’m a goy, but I spend a lot of time around Jews. I’ve been considering starting up a new advice column called “Ask Bubbe.”'

    When you start the column, be sure and post the link.

    ...and be sure you download everything you write. You'll lose it otherwise.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

  175. @Desiderius
    @Desiderius

    That was a misread. I would restrict the vote to American men with families.

    Not by race.

    Replies: @Jesse, @AnotherDad

    Of course not. Racism might actually get you some blowback. It might require some courage. Rather hit at women, and join the circle jerk at your own amazingness.

  176. @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @istevefan, @schnellandine, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Gaius Gracchus, @Alfa158, @Chet Bradley, @nebulafox, @Bardon Kaldian, @MEH 0910, @Clyde, @Realist, @Tlotsi, @Malcolm X-Lax, @J1234, @The Anti-Gnostic, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @22pp22, @MBB, @imbroglio, @Joe Schmoe, @Bradley

    I, as a mother of mixed race children don’t want them to live under a “Nazi style regime” that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive.

    So Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson are Nazis. This is a profound corruption of the truth, so why am I supposed to find moral value in what you say based on this? Or is it because you’re children are half white that you stand on high moral ground? I suspect that’s what you’re really trying to say: your half white children make you so moral that you can ignore other tenets of morality (like accurately representing the truth.)

    With regards to immigration, here’s a parallel: not taking an entire bottle of aspirin all at once does not make one “anti-aspirin.” Likewise, opposing open borders or opposing the radical idea (which you apparently have) that swamping an existing demographic is a moral necessity does not make one “anti-immigrant.” Immigration is a positive thing, but like all positive things (such as aspirin) it can be corrupted in it’s use. I have a friend who’s a non-white surgeon born in another country, and he agrees with me (and then some.)

    I’m pretty sure I’m wasting my time with this, as it’s hard to take your arguments seriously. Troll.

  177. @Hail
    In other Tucker Carlson news, he had Scott Adams on his show tonight.

    In Adams' segment, the two discussed who has more cult-like tendencies, core Trump supporters or Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers. Adams said definitely the latter.

    Now that Scott Adams is in, is Steve Sailer next?

    Replies: @216, @Anonymous, @Polynikes, @AndrewR, @Harry Baldwin, @AnotherDad, @Matra, @Antiwar7

    In Adams’ segment, the two discussed who has more cult-like tendencies, core Trump supporters or Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers. Adams said definitely the latter.

    Now that Scott Adams is in, is Steve Sailer next?

    Not sure i buy this “in” bit.

    This cult-like question is not remotely a close run thing. An objective observer can determine the correct answer even if he’s opponent of Trump. That reality might indeed influence his political decision making about Trump, his re-election, but not necessarily.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @AnotherDad

    A good political leader will inspire at least some cult-like following, right?

    Steve doesn’t seem to have any interest in talking head work, even when he was more mainstream-friendly.

    It is really easy by the way. AD, if you want to do it, start a “group” by registering a website and calling up local talk radio show bookers, plus the various low-viewership 24 hour news networks. (Fox Biz, ONN, Al-Jezeera America, many more I am missing).

    There is actually a real shortage of articulate pro-Trump talking heads.

  178. Hmmm – a traditional White, intelligent, cultured West

    Or

    A majority third world, tranny-loving, degenerate, retarded (((West))) run by Rats like Schiff, Frum, Blomberg.

    Tough Choice!
    My Race is My Nation: #I’mWithPutin

  179. @AnotherDad
    @Hail


    In Adams’ segment, the two discussed who has more cult-like tendencies, core Trump supporters or Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers. Adams said definitely the latter.

    Now that Scott Adams is in, is Steve Sailer next?
     
    Not sure i buy this "in" bit.

    This cult-like question is not remotely a close run thing. An objective observer can determine the correct answer even if he's opponent of Trump. That reality might indeed influence his political decision making about Trump, his re-election, but not necessarily.

    Replies: @Lot

    A good political leader will inspire at least some cult-like following, right?

    Steve doesn’t seem to have any interest in talking head work, even when he was more mainstream-friendly.

    It is really easy by the way. AD, if you want to do it, start a “group” by registering a website and calling up local talk radio show bookers, plus the various low-viewership 24 hour news networks. (Fox Biz, ONN, Al-Jezeera America, many more I am missing).

    There is actually a real shortage of articulate pro-Trump talking heads.

  180. We’d been getting so much Russia-baiting from the Left, I was starting to get confused. Weren’t these the same people sing-scolding us about how Russians love their children too just a few years ago?

    Thankfully, David Frumhunger stepped in to show us all how it’s done. Moral: never send a champagne socialist to do a neo-conservative’s job. Assuming you can tell them apart any longer.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @Ragno


    Weren’t these the same people sing-scolding us about how Russians love their children too just a few years ago?

     

    That northern English Sting a ling SOB gets on my nerves sometimes. That mawkish horsehit song about the Russians is a good example:

    How can I save my little boy from Oppenheimer's deadly toy?


    Sting is lucky that that Scottish Irish baby boomer dickweed Hewson is unmatchable in insufferableness.

    Bring On The Night sound check jam 1984:

    https://youtu.be/nynaDu259WQ
    , @nebulafox
    @Ragno

    The aggressive flag-waving and military/intelligence sector fetishizing from the Left in general is pretty bizarre for people old enough to remember the mid-2000s. I can't imagine how it must be for someone who remembers the 1970s.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @J.Ross

  181. @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @istevefan, @schnellandine, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Gaius Gracchus, @Alfa158, @Chet Bradley, @nebulafox, @Bardon Kaldian, @MEH 0910, @Clyde, @Realist, @Tlotsi, @Malcolm X-Lax, @J1234, @The Anti-Gnostic, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @22pp22, @MBB, @imbroglio, @Joe Schmoe, @Bradley

    When Team White withdraws into its rural Oranias and Team Brown controls everywhere else, Sikhs and Han will sneer and spit at your mixed-race children. “How could their mother have married a Paki,” they will laugh to themselves.

    • Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Browns treat other browns like shit. I know a brown guy who gets treated like a subhuman by all the other brown people. It doesn't seem to bother him. Guessing it has something to do with caste.

    Aliens do not respect tolerance or liberalism.

    , @Corvinus
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    "When Team White withdraws into its rural Oranias and Team Brown controls everywhere else..."

    Who is this "Team White" and "Team Brown"?

    "Sikhs and Han will sneer and spit at your mixed-race children. “How could their mother have married a Paki,” they will laugh to themselves."

    Maybe. Then again, probably not.

  182. @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @istevefan, @schnellandine, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Gaius Gracchus, @Alfa158, @Chet Bradley, @nebulafox, @Bardon Kaldian, @MEH 0910, @Clyde, @Realist, @Tlotsi, @Malcolm X-Lax, @J1234, @The Anti-Gnostic, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @22pp22, @MBB, @imbroglio, @Joe Schmoe, @Bradley

  183. @chris moffatt
    @Pincher Martin

    David Frum is a loser from Toronto who couldn't make it in Canada despite riding his mother's coat tails. So he came to the USA where he's been making an idiot of himself ever since. If the USA had a coherent immigration policy he probably wouldn't be here.

    Replies: @utu, @Art Deco

    David Frum is a loser from Toronto who couldn’t make it in Canada despite riding his mother’s coat tails.

    He has a degree from Yale Law School and landed a position at the Wall Street Journal. The term ‘loser’ doesn’t mean what you think it means.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Art Deco

    Yale, pshaw. Yale's not York. He couldn't succeed in Sarnia and he knows it.

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Art Deco

    You are an insufferable bag of gas. The type of gas one receives from a large serving of Indian food.

    , @Jack Henson
    @Art Deco

    Yeah, a loser. Thanks for proving the point.

  184. @Bragadocious
    I always wanted to thank Canada for David Frum. He was a major figure in the run-up to Iraq. Just like I routinely thank Ireland for Samantha Power. Two cases for shutting down all immigration until we can figure out what the hell's going on.

    Replies: @utu, @Art Deco, @Dan Hayes

    He wasn’t a major figure at all. He was an opinion journalist advocating a position along side of scores of other opinion journalists.

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
    @Art Deco

    He was Dubya's speechwriter you putz. Who do you think coined the phrase "axis of evil?"

    , @Massimo Heitor
    @Art Deco


    He wasn’t a major figure at all. He was an opinion journalist advocating a position along side of scores of other opinion journalists.
     
    I just wrote that I was stunned that you knew so much about Frum's life and career, but here you seem to not know. Frum was a speech writer within George W Bush's Administration. Sure, afterwards, he is known as an op-ed pundit.
  185. @Moses
    @Art Deco


    Yeah, that’s why he married a shiksa.
     
    From Wikipedia:

    The etymology of the word shiksa is partly derived from the Hebrew term שקץ shekets, meaning "abomination", "impure," or "object of loathing", depending on the translator.[30] Several dictionaries define shiksa as a disparaging and offensive term applied to a non-Jewish girl or woman.[31][32] In 2014, Rabbi Jack Abramowitz described it as "simply indefensible", "inherently condescending, racist and misogynistic".[33]

     

    Shiksa

    Abomination. Impure. Object of loathing.

    Used casually by Art Deco for a Gentile woman. Also used by my fellow Jews to describe Gentile women in national television programs like Seinfeld.

    What do they mean when they use this word? We may never know.

    Replies: @Lot, @Stan Adams, @Art Deco

    It was a banal and mildly derisive term applied (by a skeptical grandmother) to my sister, among others. Rabbi Abramowitz needs to grow a sense of humor.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Art Deco


    It was a banal and mildly derisive term applied (by a skeptical grandmother) to my sister, among others.
     
    Was your sister Jewish or Gentile?
    , @Dissident
    @Art Deco

    The Wikipedia entry quoted by comment-poster "Moses" on the etymology of shiksa is correct. The term is the feminine equivalent of sheigetz. Both terms are, as per their literal definition, inherently highly pejorative and dehumanizing. I will not deny that there are Jews who knowingly use them that way. But, from my experience at least, there would also appear to be many Jews who use the terms shiksa and sheigetz in complete ignorance of their actual meaning, innocently thinking that such terms are merely synonyms for gentile or non-Jew*. Additionally, as a Jew myself, I am able to report from firsthand experience that even among Jews who do know the literal meaning of sheigetz/shiksa, the terms are widely used merely as synonyms for gentile or non-Jew, with no malice or deliberate intent to insult.

    Personally, I refrain from using either shiksa or shegeitz as generic terms for non-Jews.

    *As goy truly is, oft-repeated charges to the contrary notwithstanding. Goy literally means nation, and when used in common parlance to refer to non-Jews is equivalent-to and no more pejorative than the English gentile.


    It was a banal and mildly derisive term applied (by a skeptical grandmother) to my sister, among others.
     
    Such usage would possibly appear to be supported by extrapolating from how my copy of Harduf's Transliterated English-Yiddish/Yiddish-English Dictionary translates "sheigets": as "impudent boy". The same reference work translates "shikse" merely as "gentile girl". This would apparently support the observations I made above about these words being widely used innocently.

    I do not have access at the moment to the far more complete, comprehensive and authoritative reference work by the renowned late Yiddishist Uriel Weinreich. Perhaps one of our resident Yiddishists could help out here.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    , @Moses
    @Art Deco


    Rabbi Abramowitz needs to grow a sense of humor.
     
    Right.

    And Blacks, Jews and Latinos needs to "grow a sense of humor" about the other-izing, unpleasant pejoratives used to describe their groups.

    This is not a good look for us Jews, Deco.
  186. @Art Deco
    @Bragadocious

    He wasn't a major figure at all. He was an opinion journalist advocating a position along side of scores of other opinion journalists.

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @Massimo Heitor

    He was Dubya’s speechwriter you putz. Who do you think coined the phrase “axis of evil?”

  187. @Desiderius
    @Anonymous

    Neocons conning women.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @S. Anonyia

    Neocons conning women.

    How do they go about doing it?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Anonymous

    Chutzpah.

    , @ben tillman
    @Anonymous

    They tell Savannah Guthrie what to say.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  188. (I do not expect that I was actually the fulcrum, but my sentiments were, and I was by no means alone in espousing them.)
    Back before the Russia nothingburger, maybe before the campaign got properly started, somebody on 4chan brought up Russia. Maybe it was in connection to Syria. This glowie asked, you guys aren’t really serious about failing-to-condemn-with-sufficient-vigor (American politics demand that this be a verb) the nefarious Muscovite nemesis? And I and others pointed out,
    >Putin isn’t threatening our Constitution and the highest Democrats are.
    >Putin isn’t threatening our forces and foreign policy interests; the establishment wants to fumble our foreign policy interests and exhaust our forces.
    >Putin in his heart of hearts wants relief from the sanctions and attacks, and a business deal; the establishment wants to remake the United States into a vastly inferior version of Scandinavia, totally altering its character. If Russia conquered us, which they’re completely incapable of doing, they would do less damage than President Hillary.
    But all of this depends on wanting to preserve the Bill of Rights as a starting point, and, quite differently, David Frum starts with desert-people-eternal-blood-feud (American politics demand that this be a noun; I think they call it “democracy”) and then works his way back to whichever was the name and nominal calue system of the current host.

  189. @Art Deco
    @Moses

    It was a banal and mildly derisive term applied (by a skeptical grandmother) to my sister, among others. Rabbi Abramowitz needs to grow a sense of humor.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Dissident, @Moses

    It was a banal and mildly derisive term applied (by a skeptical grandmother) to my sister, among others.

    Was your sister Jewish or Gentile?

  190. @Art Deco
    @chris moffatt

    David Frum is a loser from Toronto who couldn’t make it in Canada despite riding his mother’s coat tails.

    He has a degree from Yale Law School and landed a position at the Wall Street Journal. The term 'loser' doesn't mean what you think it means.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @SunBakedSuburb, @Jack Henson

    Yale, pshaw. Yale’s not York. He couldn’t succeed in Sarnia and he knows it.

  191. and this is why no one takes you seriously.

  192. @Sherry Khan
    @Gaius Gracchus

    I am an American and so are my husband and Children.
    Who on this earth are you to tell me about where I should move?
    Racist and Disgusting what you just said

    Replies: @SFG, @ThreeCranes, @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @William Badwhite, @OilcanFloyd, @J.Ross, @Gaius Gracchus, @Daniel Chieh, @Kylie, @Joe Schmoe

    America is a proposition nation: thus anyone who rejects (or fails to embrace) the proposition has no place here. Compare what any Muslim would say about demands that Pakistan become a second Jewish state.

  193. @Lot
    @Harry Baldwin

    “ except insofar as supporting Trump is prima facia proof of racism.”

    Unfortunately that isn’t just the state of things in humanities departments, but polite company in elite circles like giant silicon valley companies like Uber and Google. (Apple, Facebook, and Microsoft have been resistant to going that far).

    Replies: @nebulafox

    Self-censorship has the potential to bite the progressives in the butt because they are vastly underestimating how “radical” the views of non-progressive Americans are in the rightward direction. As people have commented, I’m pretty sure the Ross Douthat types read iSteve on the down-low. This cuts both ways. Your average BlueCheck liberal would think Steve is some raving white supremacist nut based on what they hear about him, which, of course, isn’t accurate. But more perniciously, the centrist people they know and think are good people probably hold views that they would consider “extreme”, and not in a good way: and they don’t know that, because non-progressives know better than to voice them in an age where progressivism is becoming increasingly more like a religion.

    (There’s also the fact that agreeing with or being open to some of the alt-right’s premises, as SFG once mentioned, isn’t the same as accepting the attitude or the conclusions. Believing there are racial gaps in average IQ-or just being agnostic on the matter, which, TBH, is really the only honest position to take if you haven’t read tons on it-doesn’t translate into believing that Jim Crow or lynching was justifiable.)

    This is particularly prominent in places like tech. Take HR 1044 as an example. Pretty much any programmer who is not Indian hates the bill the moment they learn about it, immigrants from other countries included. They have good reason to be, because the moment the quota on India is removed, everybody else is going to be swamped. The donors know that on some level: the media blackout exists for a reason. But I doubt the liberal true-believers do, which means that they’ll overplay their hand on the DNC stage if the topic comes up.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @nebulafox

    “ Believing there are racial gaps in average IQ-or just being agnostic on the matter-doesn’t translate into believing that Jim Crow was justifiable.)”

    Yes.

    Left-wing blogger Kevin Drum has repeatedly stated in barely-deniable language he knows and accepts race IQ gaps, especially the big one (B-W). But he still hates Trump, loves Warren and Biden, loves Obamacare, etc.

    Our own PaleoLiberal seems similar. And I really dislike much of our super wealthy and corporate elites for the same reason Bernie does, though am resigned to the necessity that any viable nationalist political coalition requires about half of them, ideally more.

    , @Jack D
    @nebulafox


    But more perniciously, the centrist people they know and think are good people probably hold views that they would consider “extreme”, and not in a good way: and they don’t know that, because non-progressives know better than to voice them in an age where progressivism is becoming increasingly more like a religion.
     
    It's very easy for elites to become detached from the actual pulse of the people, especially in a society where dissent is punished and the leadership keeps hearing what it wants to hear from the sycophants and yes men that they have surrounded themselves with. Right up until the moment when they received a drubbing at the polls, the pro-Beijing leadership of Hong Kong was utterly convinced that the "silent majority" backed them and that the (millions of) people demonstrating in the street were just a handful of rabble rousers.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    , @ben tillman
    @nebulafox


    Believing there are racial gaps in average IQ-or just being agnostic on the matter, which, TBH, is really the only honest position to take if you haven’t read tons on it-doesn’t translate into believing that Jim Crow or lynching was justifiable.
     
    Those things weren't about IQ. They were primarily about violent crime.
  194. @Art Deco
    @Massimo Heitor

    You kind of wonder if Frum's whole life is a species of cosplay. At this point, he's independently wealthy (and estate planning imperatives may have made him such well before the previous generation died) and his wife also comes from money; her family if not his were people of influence in Ontario. The two of them emigrated for whatever reason. He trained as a lawyer, then never practiced. He landed a job as an editorial writer at The Wall Street Journal, then landed a job in George Bush the Elder's PR apparat. Over the years, he's played a libertarian, a warrior contra Jihadis, a paladin of Rockefeller Republicanism (making the argument the Republicans were somehow obligated to embrace Obama administration policy tar babies because reasons), and now a NeverTrump fantasist. He's burned his bridges to a succession of people (some of whom a sensible person wouldn't have wanted to associate with, to be sure); he was cashiered by the 2d Bush administration, went out of his way to alienate the Rockford Institute and Peter Brimelow, cut ties with National Review, was sh!tcanned by the American Enterprise Institute (in a most embarrassing way, costing him friends), and was at one time the employer of one Alex Pareene (the controversy around which cost him more friends).

    Replies: @Prester John, @Massimo Heitor, @bjondo

    Notwithstanding all the bridges he burned, Frum went over to The Dark Side long before Trump arrived.

  195. @Anonymous
    @Lot


    We should have kept the franchise more limited,
     
    Why though? What is your argument in support it doing that? And what does women voting have to do with a “con game,” as the other commenter?

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Lot

    “ Why though?”

    I gave reasons why. Wisdom of our founders, other successful democracies, etc.

    I slightly disagree with Desi’s “men with families.”

    That’s better than what we have now, but the best was the qualifications used in early America and England like “owns property worth £30 or rents a house for more than £5 year” and included single men over 21 with their own household and a small number of women (mostly landed widows and unmarried heiresses).

    As for further “whys,” conservatism is partly about not abandoning what works in favor of untested innovations. Though now we have tested the broad franchise, I think it has failed.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Lot


    Though now we have tested the broad franchise
     
    https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/square_small/4/48397/1063257-title_fatbroad.jpg

    Replies: @Lot

    , @Anonymous
    @Lot


    Though now we have tested the broad franchise, I think it has failed.
     
    What evidence would you point to that indicates that it has failed?

    Replies: @anon

  196. @Ragno
    We'd been getting so much Russia-baiting from the Left, I was starting to get confused. Weren't these the same people sing-scolding us about how Russians love their children too just a few years ago?

    Thankfully, David Frumhunger stepped in to show us all how it's done. Moral: never send a champagne socialist to do a neo-conservative's job. Assuming you can tell them apart any longer.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt, @nebulafox

    Weren’t these the same people sing-scolding us about how Russians love their children too just a few years ago?

    That northern English Sting a ling SOB gets on my nerves sometimes. That mawkish horsehit song about the Russians is a good example:

    How can I save my little boy from Oppenheimer’s deadly toy?

    Sting is lucky that that Scottish Irish baby boomer dickweed Hewson is unmatchable in insufferableness.

    Bring On The Night sound check jam 1984:

  197. @nebulafox
    @Lot

    Self-censorship has the potential to bite the progressives in the butt because they are vastly underestimating how "radical" the views of non-progressive Americans are in the rightward direction. As people have commented, I'm pretty sure the Ross Douthat types read iSteve on the down-low. This cuts both ways. Your average BlueCheck liberal would think Steve is some raving white supremacist nut based on what they hear about him, which, of course, isn't accurate. But more perniciously, the centrist people they know and think are good people probably hold views that they would consider "extreme", and not in a good way: and they don't know that, because non-progressives know better than to voice them in an age where progressivism is becoming increasingly more like a religion.

    (There's also the fact that agreeing with or being open to some of the alt-right's premises, as SFG once mentioned, isn't the same as accepting the attitude or the conclusions. Believing there are racial gaps in average IQ-or just being agnostic on the matter, which, TBH, is really the only honest position to take if you haven't read tons on it-doesn't translate into believing that Jim Crow or lynching was justifiable.)

    This is particularly prominent in places like tech. Take HR 1044 as an example. Pretty much any programmer who is not Indian hates the bill the moment they learn about it, immigrants from other countries included. They have good reason to be, because the moment the quota on India is removed, everybody else is going to be swamped. The donors know that on some level: the media blackout exists for a reason. But I doubt the liberal true-believers do, which means that they'll overplay their hand on the DNC stage if the topic comes up.

    Replies: @Lot, @Jack D, @ben tillman

    “ Believing there are racial gaps in average IQ-or just being agnostic on the matter-doesn’t translate into believing that Jim Crow was justifiable.)”

    Yes.

    Left-wing blogger Kevin Drum has repeatedly stated in barely-deniable language he knows and accepts race IQ gaps, especially the big one (B-W). But he still hates Trump, loves Warren and Biden, loves Obamacare, etc.

    Our own PaleoLiberal seems similar. And I really dislike much of our super wealthy and corporate elites for the same reason Bernie does, though am resigned to the necessity that any viable nationalist political coalition requires about half of them, ideally more.

  198. @Ragno
    We'd been getting so much Russia-baiting from the Left, I was starting to get confused. Weren't these the same people sing-scolding us about how Russians love their children too just a few years ago?

    Thankfully, David Frumhunger stepped in to show us all how it's done. Moral: never send a champagne socialist to do a neo-conservative's job. Assuming you can tell them apart any longer.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt, @nebulafox

    The aggressive flag-waving and military/intelligence sector fetishizing from the Left in general is pretty bizarre for people old enough to remember the mid-2000s. I can’t imagine how it must be for someone who remembers the 1970s.

    • Agree: Dissident
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @nebulafox

    Should clue you in that there’s nothing Left about them. Several voices on the genuine Left just as skeptical as we are.

    , @J.Ross
    @nebulafox

    I remember from the 70s (or possibly the early 80s) the excellent documentary series "Vietnam, the Ten Thousand Day War," with material and interviews from the period and shortly after it. Near the end they did an episode about the poor sick screwed-up Commie-hypnotized kids. They interviewed a campus organizer who matter-of-factly stated that these radicals would be entering the halls of power by simply waiting and growing up. I believe this was Jerry Rubin, but the guy interviewed did later have an office in the first Clinton White House.
    As any Czech could tell you, regarding Soviet horror at American atrocities in South-East Asia, war is only bad when they do it.

  199. @Jesse
    @Lot

    Great. Now talk about restricting the vote based on race. You wouldn't dare.

    This, folks, is why the far right will never win. It's full of white men talking smack about women as a way of avoiding talking about racial issues, and expecting praise for their bravery.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @kihowi, @AnotherDad, @Alden

    Great. Now talk about restricting the vote based on race. You wouldn’t dare.

    This, folks, is why the far right will never win. It’s full of white men talking smack about women as a way of avoiding talking about racial issues, and expecting praise for their bravery.

    Jesse, i agree with you to some extent on the immediate politics. Women’s suffrage should not be the focus of the alt-right propaganda. Aggressively countering minoritarianism and “nation of immigrants”ism” is so overwhelmingly critical that everything else reduces to almost background noise.

    But please try and look beyond your wounded “women!” pride and grapple with both the observed social reality that these guys are trying to address and their arguments logically. (This is what men like to do–figure out what’s going on, think about it, analyze it, toss out ideas/solutions.)

    Sex is not race. The two are fundamentally different divisions and need to be addressed differently.

    The logical test–the sanity test–for any nation’s or civilization’s political arrangements:

    “Does the nation’s political arrangements preserve that nation on down through future ages?”

    This sort of test is why the whole “nation of immigrants”–immigration forever–ideology is openly genocidal. Unless your plan is something like Caribbean sugar plantation slavery, where you are continually working that endless stream of immigrants to death … then “nation of immigrants” *must* mean the replacement/destruction of the founding stock. Mathematically immigration forever means first no whole person, then no chromosome, finally no allele will remain of the founding stock. Heck not just the “founding stock” but of people in the nation right now! It’s openly actual national genocide. (The saving grace, of course is that it can’t happen. The nation becomes so crowded and shitty that at some point the immigration stops.)

    Voting systems are subject to the same sort of sanity test. Do they produce policies that preserve the nation, enhance its future and prospects for long term survival?

    Objectively, both ethnic liberalism and women’s suffrage have failed to do that, but have allowed hostile anti-national forces to gain the upper hand.

    But again, sex is not race. The solutions are not the same.

    The solution for racial/ethnic division is separate nations.

    We have a few–at least couple–groups who are clearly hostile to core white America:
    If the majority–or even a large group–of blacks really thinks their problems are due to “white privilege” or “structural racism”, they should either head back to Africa or just separate and form their own black nation which will not have these issues. Likewise, we have a small–but extremely vocal and influential–Jewish contingent which is deeply hostile to the norms, values, culture of flyover white gentiles. Those Jews should leave us alone and leave–to Israel for those who want to be Jews or to a separate minoritarian mulitcultural rainbow “nation”. (Yeah, a minoritarian “nation” is a contradiction–really it will be an authoritarian kritarchic empire.)

    However, sex is not separable. Men and women are complementary. It is our sexual union that fuels the nation and propels it into the future. Regarding sex, the question is what sort of social and political arrangements around sex preserve and protect the nation. To any objective observer a bunch of the current ones–both involving divorce/custody/support and women’s suffrage–are failing the test. They are not working to preserve the nation, but to tear it down. Women can go all “i am woman hear me roar” and bitch and moan about their rights (to vote, to loot their ex or soon to be ex). But the reality remains. The current “liberated” arrangements have led to failing nations.

    My take is there are some “sex neutral” fixes, that can help reign in, discipline the female id and restore some countering male authority.

    — End divorce rape. No alimony; default joint custody and no “child support”. (Both parties have and support their children half time.) There are a host of other policies that could be enacted to support marriage and fertility–“affordable family formation”. To big a discussion for right here.

    — A family vote. Men and women do not vote individually. Only intact families–father, mother and biological children–who are productive, self-supporting get a “family vote”. Both the husband and wife must sign off on it or they do not vote.

    ~~

    But again the point here is not that you have to agree with my or anyone’s “alt-right” suggestions, but at least be willing to engage with the–to me obvious–point that female suffrage/liberation has been destructive to the West, Western nations. Or if you don’t agree, offer some coherent counter-narrative for why observed female behavior/voting is not really the problem it appears to be.

  200. @El Dato
    @Hypnotoad666

    Well, it's "wasted" in the sense that it takes energy, time and a VERY extensive VERY maintainance-heavy infrastructure to get it back up those 10 cm from the tap to the sink.

    Tap water does not have zero cost.

    Because People of Color Disproportionately Fail to Pay Their Water Bills in 33% White Chicago, New Black Mayor Stops Shutoffs for Nonpayment... Costs City $20 Million

    Replies: @Neuday

    Water is a human right, and America will provide water for everyone who can make it here, and all their descendants. Paying a Water bill is supporting an oppressive white supremacy power structure.

    In other words, “gibsmedat”.

  201. @bigdicknick
    @Arclight

    jewish intelligence doesn't extend to self awareness. It's their achilles heel.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Billy Shears, @kikz

    Maybe in the long term it’s an Achilles Heel but in the short term it helps their ideas spread.

  202. @Desiderius
    @Jesse

    I would.

    But I'm not even right, let alone far right. I'm not talking smack about my women at all. Love 'em to death. Women of the time were largely opposed to the 19th Amendment - it was the vanity of men that led them to believe that women long to emulate them.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar

    Women of the time were largely opposed to the 19th Amendment – it was the vanity of men that led them to believe that women long to emulate them.

    “Betas” love apologizing to feminists for their purported brutality. “Somebody thinks I’m a man!”

    As with the ERA, men listened to the wrong women. For a good half-century after 1920, women voted more conservatively than men. (I read once that the Tories in the UK owe all their 20th century victories to the women’s vote, as well.)

    I don’t care for suffragists, but my favorite has to be Jeannette Rankin, who, as Montana’s representative in the House, voted against our entry into both World Wars. She couldn’t go, and she refused to send anyone else.

    Likewise, Sylvia Pankhurst, despite being a communist and Abyssiniphile, deserves respect for calling out her mother and sister for their war support.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Reg Cæsar

    Feminism has become a component of the alliance that's out to destroy white nations. That alliance now includes most mainstream political parties, academia, MSM, most of the Christian churches, etc. Feminism didn't start out that way. Many early feminists could see that the two sexes were complementary and interdependent.

    The movement is obviously no longer about the advancement of women. Any pro-women movement would give priority to keeping out non-whites whose presence has increased the rape stats by an order of magnitude.

  203. @Desiderius
    @Desiderius

    That was a misread. I would restrict the vote to American men with families.

    Not by race.

    Replies: @Jesse, @AnotherDad

    That was a misread. I would restrict the vote to American men with families.

    I agree with your thrust here. For a civilization/nation to survive it must have patriarchy. (Patriarchy is a necessary, but not sufficient condition for the creation and maintenance of civilization.)

    However–as i described in my reply to Jesse–i think there is a sort of “sex neutral” approach to this–and other issues (like divorce). The core principle is to prioritize the family as the unit. It’s not men voting or women voting, but the family voting. A husband and wife with children who are self-supporting get one vote.

    This isn’t as dramatic or effective as returning to manhood suffrage–or your patriarchal suffrage. But it is a lot more easy to sell and can potentially bring more “moms” on side. This straight up eliminates all the damage from single women and single mom parasites. And realistically it will quashes a huge percentage of the current cancer of “good white” wives cancelling out their husbands’ votes.

    ~~

    Not by race.

    Agreed. The solution to intractable racial issues is separation–separate nations. This is the great political innovation of the West. Free nations instead of multicultural empires. It enables republican self-government and is the path–the only path–toward peace.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @AnotherDad

    Nation doesn’t map exactly to race, especially my own. We've had 400 years of practice so, contra the NYT bastards and the poison they’re pumping into our schools, I think we can make it.

    , @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    You are never going to unscramble the omelet in America and even if you could, you wouldn't want to. The multi-ethnic pre-war capitals of E. Europe - Budapest, Prague, Vienna were cauldrons of ferment that gave forth all sorts of geniuses, Jewish and non-Jewish. It wasn't all good but a lot of it was. Their modern day mono-ethnic incarnations are deadly dull places that nothing new ever comes from, good or bad.

    Just as comparative advantage says that in international trade, you should let Italians design your shoes and Germans build your cars, the same is true within nations. Once you have reduce a nation to a monoethnicity, then no comparative advantage is possible.

    I know that this is your dream vision but it's kind of nuts. If you really want that kind of mono-ethnic state, there are places in E. Europe that are like that now but I don't think you'd really want to live in them.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @utu, @Bardon Kaldian, @AnotherDad

  204. @Anonymous
    @Desiderius


    Neocons conning women.
     
    How do they go about doing it?

    Replies: @Desiderius, @ben tillman

    Chutzpah.

  205. @Lot
    @Moses

    “my fellow Jews”

    Wait, you’re not just a rando nut, but an ethnomasochist antisemite? You need an Unz column!

    Replies: @Anon

    Okay, so he married a shiksa and she married a bedbug.

    Even?

    No? Why not?

  206. For the country club file: “When Obama tried to join Woodmont Country Club, a predominantly Jewish club in Rockville, Maryland, some members tried to block him because they deemed his views on Israel to be insufficiently supportive of the Jewish state. When that tiff became public, Obama joined Columbia Country Club, in Chevy Chase, instead (“Mostly white Catholics,” said a member there).” The first black president got blackballed! https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2019/11/26/barack-obama-2020-democrats-candidates-biden-073025

  207. @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @istevefan, @schnellandine, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Gaius Gracchus, @Alfa158, @Chet Bradley, @nebulafox, @Bardon Kaldian, @MEH 0910, @Clyde, @Realist, @Tlotsi, @Malcolm X-Lax, @J1234, @The Anti-Gnostic, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @22pp22, @MBB, @imbroglio, @Joe Schmoe, @Bradley

    Ok, i’ve got to give credit to the cleverness of “Sherry Khan”. I’m old and slow so i didn’t catch it right away, but–first rate.

    And–to be fair–there are a smattering of “Sherry Khan”s out there. Women who have defected and sold their bodies to enemy foreign men … which in our weird clueless state allows those men entry into our nation. And the above blather is plausibly what such a woman might spew. So maybe there is some value in this.

    Still this is the 3rd or 4th of these sock puppets i’ve noticed in the last couple weeks that seem to be from the same source.

    All while our Tiny Duck–who was a comforting presence and occasionally hilarious–remains AWOL.

    “Sherry Khan” if you are the Duck, please give up this sockpuppetry and return to your true calling as “Tiny Duck”.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @AnotherDad


    Women who have defected and sold their bodies to enemy foreign men
     
    https://booktrib.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/not-without-my-daughter-betty-mahmoody.jpg

    Ok, i’ve got to give credit to the cleverness of “Sherry Khan”. I’m old and slow so i didn’t catch it right away...
     
    https://media1.tenor.com/images/f4a3bbd3df85c0fec805e7348bb079e6/tenor.gif?itemid=14302272
    , @Daniel Chieh
    @AnotherDad

    I think going as Tiny Duck would be a bit too obvious for him to get bites, so he's shifting things around a bit.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Johann Ricke

    , @Anonymous
    @AnotherDad


    Ok, i’ve got to give credit to the cleverness of “Sherry Khan”. I’m old and slow so i didn’t catch it right away, but–first rate.
     
    Is there a pun in the name that I am missing?

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Lot
    @AnotherDad

    These “I’m a black guy with a white wife” and “I am a white woman who only likes NAMs” trolls pretty much always turn out to be Chinese-American or Bangla/Paki incels.

    They popup in all uncensored forums eventually.

    , @black sea
    @AnotherDad

    A Duck by any other name
    would have webbed feet.

  208. @Colin Wright
    This kind of lets the cat out of the bag about who the 'Neo-Cons' are and what their agenda is, doesn't it?

    Replies: @Barnard, @CrunchyButRealistCon, @The Anti-Gnostic, @gsjackson, @S. Anonyia

    The cat’s been roaming around at least since Frum attacked Pat Buchanan in a cover story in The American Spectator about 30 years ago. He did need to update his “axis of evil” from the one he authored for GW Bush — Iraq, Iran and North Korea.

  209. Anon[132] • Disclaimer says:

    A Jew attacking Whites and their political interests, and at the same time undermining American national discourse with ham-fisted, obvious anti-Russian propaganda rooted in Jewish resentment of losing Russia to Stalin?

    Who says that Jews aren’t poison personified?

    Did Whites get to vote about where their “capital” is, or did a bunch of Jews in a conference room at The Atlantic decide that for them? Do we get to decide that for Jews?

    I would have thought that White Nationalism had its capital in White homelands of Europe, where it is unambiguously morally correct.

    Forgetting for one moment our inheritance from our civilizing work in the Americas, which continues in spite of Jewish efforts to tear it down with mass immigration and undermining national discourse.

    And all of this from a Jew with racial loyalty in Tel Aviv?

    The only reasonable response to Jews in 2019 is fuck you and fuck off back to the Levant. They will ignore that warning at their own risk.

  210. @Lot
    @Anonymous

    “ Why though?”

    I gave reasons why. Wisdom of our founders, other successful democracies, etc.

    I slightly disagree with Desi’s “men with families.”

    That’s better than what we have now, but the best was the qualifications used in early America and England like “owns property worth £30 or rents a house for more than £5 year” and included single men over 21 with their own household and a small number of women (mostly landed widows and unmarried heiresses).

    As for further “whys,” conservatism is partly about not abandoning what works in favor of untested innovations. Though now we have tested the broad franchise, I think it has failed.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    Though now we have tested the broad franchise

    • LOL: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Lot
    @Reg Cæsar

    http://womensfoundationofcalifornia.com/www.wshs.org/images/wshm/bellinghamsuffragists.jpg

  211. Anon[181] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jesse
    @Anonymous

    Oh. My. GOD. Who the hell cares?

    The criticism that the pro Israel side is sublimating their love of race on a tiny rat hole in the ME has some validity.

    But so does the other side. There is literally no reason to side with a bunch of random Muslims (who, BTW, are doing to us what they whine about the Israelis doing to them) other than cowardice. You're angry at the Jewish elites in the West, but too terrified of them to go after them directly. So you sublimate it on a conflict that has nothing to do with you.

    (And don't give me that bull about "all that money" going to Israel. The US subsidizes and takes orders from many, many countries and groups. Somehow, none of them stir up this level of rage. Somehow.)

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd, @nebulafox, @Anon, @Joe Schmoe

    But so does the other side.

    What “other side”? Just like the Jews wish to take the world from non-Jewish Whites, the Jews have zero entitlement argument with us. No one forgets their continuing subversion that costs us more every year. Our enemies are entitled to zero empathy for their interests. Moreovever the Bible is a fake set of political myths and their supposed “other side” rests on those myths as justification for the land. Their side doesn’t exist. Muslim benefit or no Muslim benefit. The Jews are far, far more dangerous as their texts demand slavery / slaughter of all non-jews and they have the IQ, ability to conceal themselves, and political organization to flirt with success in comparison with any Muslim group.

  212. @AnotherDad
    @Desiderius


    That was a misread. I would restrict the vote to American men with families.

     

    I agree with your thrust here. For a civilization/nation to survive it must have patriarchy. (Patriarchy is a necessary, but not sufficient condition for the creation and maintenance of civilization.)

    However--as i described in my reply to Jesse--i think there is a sort of "sex neutral" approach to this--and other issues (like divorce). The core principle is to prioritize the family as the unit. It's not men voting or women voting, but the family voting. A husband and wife with children who are self-supporting get one vote.

    This isn't as dramatic or effective as returning to manhood suffrage--or your patriarchal suffrage. But it is a lot more easy to sell and can potentially bring more "moms" on side. This straight up eliminates all the damage from single women and single mom parasites. And realistically it will quashes a huge percentage of the current cancer of "good white" wives cancelling out their husbands' votes.

    ~~

    Not by race.
     
    Agreed. The solution to intractable racial issues is separation--separate nations. This is the great political innovation of the West. Free nations instead of multicultural empires. It enables republican self-government and is the path--the only path--toward peace.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Jack D

    Nation doesn’t map exactly to race, especially my own. We’ve had 400 years of practice so, contra the NYT bastards and the poison they’re pumping into our schools, I think we can make it.

  213. @Anon
    There a hilarious ethnic food dustup on Twitter now. BBC and WaPo have articles on it. Professor tweets that Indian food is horrible, gets called a racist, and is dotsplained how restaurant Indian food isn't Indian food to begin with. Then another professor tweets that Chinese food is sloppy, salty crap ...

    I'm waiting for statements from the University presidents to be released. Maybe WE DEMAND manifestos from a student "coalition." Demands for their firing. Or at least prevented from teaching required classes ...

    Replies: @Haruto Rat, @SunBakedSuburb, @Kolya Krassotkin

    “dotsplained”

    I’ll probably be using your term somewhere. Thanks. Also, Indian food is awful. It smells like perfume on a corpse. A chick talked me into it. She is no longer in my rolodex.

  214. @nebulafox
    @Ragno

    The aggressive flag-waving and military/intelligence sector fetishizing from the Left in general is pretty bizarre for people old enough to remember the mid-2000s. I can't imagine how it must be for someone who remembers the 1970s.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @J.Ross

    Should clue you in that there’s nothing Left about them. Several voices on the genuine Left just as skeptical as we are.

  215. @AnotherDad
    @Sherry Khan

    Ok, i've got to give credit to the cleverness of "Sherry Khan". I'm old and slow so i didn't catch it right away, but--first rate.

    And--to be fair--there are a smattering of "Sherry Khan"s out there. Women who have defected and sold their bodies to enemy foreign men ... which in our weird clueless state allows those men entry into our nation. And the above blather is plausibly what such a woman might spew. So maybe there is some value in this.

    Still this is the 3rd or 4th of these sock puppets i've noticed in the last couple weeks that seem to be from the same source.

    All while our Tiny Duck--who was a comforting presence and occasionally hilarious--remains AWOL.

    "Sherry Khan" if you are the Duck, please give up this sockpuppetry and return to your true calling as "Tiny Duck".

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Daniel Chieh, @Anonymous, @Lot, @black sea

    Women who have defected and sold their bodies to enemy foreign men

    Ok, i’ve got to give credit to the cleverness of “Sherry Khan”. I’m old and slow so i didn’t catch it right away…

  216. @HammerJack
    @Colin Wright

    At this point, I can't think of anything bad about Tucker Carlson. About the Democrats, he said this yesterday:


    "This is what happens when you let Jeff Zucker run your political party."

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-blames-media-for-impeachment-push-says-democrats-have-lost
     

    Idk, maybe his haircut?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Realist

    At this point, I can’t think of anything bad about Tucker Carlson.

    He’s too anti-China. He needs to stay out of foreign government issues…it is none of his or our governments business.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  217. @nebulafox
    @Lot

    Self-censorship has the potential to bite the progressives in the butt because they are vastly underestimating how "radical" the views of non-progressive Americans are in the rightward direction. As people have commented, I'm pretty sure the Ross Douthat types read iSteve on the down-low. This cuts both ways. Your average BlueCheck liberal would think Steve is some raving white supremacist nut based on what they hear about him, which, of course, isn't accurate. But more perniciously, the centrist people they know and think are good people probably hold views that they would consider "extreme", and not in a good way: and they don't know that, because non-progressives know better than to voice them in an age where progressivism is becoming increasingly more like a religion.

    (There's also the fact that agreeing with or being open to some of the alt-right's premises, as SFG once mentioned, isn't the same as accepting the attitude or the conclusions. Believing there are racial gaps in average IQ-or just being agnostic on the matter, which, TBH, is really the only honest position to take if you haven't read tons on it-doesn't translate into believing that Jim Crow or lynching was justifiable.)

    This is particularly prominent in places like tech. Take HR 1044 as an example. Pretty much any programmer who is not Indian hates the bill the moment they learn about it, immigrants from other countries included. They have good reason to be, because the moment the quota on India is removed, everybody else is going to be swamped. The donors know that on some level: the media blackout exists for a reason. But I doubt the liberal true-believers do, which means that they'll overplay their hand on the DNC stage if the topic comes up.

    Replies: @Lot, @Jack D, @ben tillman

    But more perniciously, the centrist people they know and think are good people probably hold views that they would consider “extreme”, and not in a good way: and they don’t know that, because non-progressives know better than to voice them in an age where progressivism is becoming increasingly more like a religion.

    It’s very easy for elites to become detached from the actual pulse of the people, especially in a society where dissent is punished and the leadership keeps hearing what it wants to hear from the sycophants and yes men that they have surrounded themselves with. Right up until the moment when they received a drubbing at the polls, the pro-Beijing leadership of Hong Kong was utterly convinced that the “silent majority” backed them and that the (millions of) people demonstrating in the street were just a handful of rabble rousers.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Jack D

    Well, mea culpa. Beijing deeply screwed up. I have noticed that this is a recurring problem for the CPC: they don't tend to understand the psychology of people they don't deal with regularly, aka, middle-aged party men, and that's part of why they still absolutely suck at leveraging the soft power that is America's big trump card. To a certain extent, you can see this all over China. Foreign bosses are often stunned to discover how popular they are with subordinates because they don't treat them like crap.

    So, what now, do you reckon? Lam's in between a rock and a hard place, and judging from the lack of concessions she's offering, she knows it. Hong Kong is a very liberal place, but it isn't a democracy: the elections matter less than what happens afterwards. Crack down on the protesters too hard, and Hong Kong's going to be even more deeply screwed than it is: the root of many of the socioeconomic problems there are all the financial industries relocating to Shanghai, and this will exacerbate the exodus further. The weak central government-opposite of Singapore here, Hong Kong has a very bottom-up way of doing things-is unable to "push" an alternative, probably lacks the vision to boot. But let them run wild, and the PLA is right across the border in Shenzhen.

    Also, where's LRC to comment on the situation on the ground when you need him? Steve should do a post that invites him to talk about it.

    Replies: @Jack D

  218. @Sherry Khan
    @Gaius Gracchus

    I am an American and so are my husband and Children.
    Who on this earth are you to tell me about where I should move?
    Racist and Disgusting what you just said

    Replies: @SFG, @ThreeCranes, @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @William Badwhite, @OilcanFloyd, @J.Ross, @Gaius Gracchus, @Daniel Chieh, @Kylie, @Joe Schmoe

    You obviously hate those who made the country. You obviously hate the traditions of the country. You obviously hate the culture of those who made the country. You obviously have no gratitude for generations of sacrifice that created this country.

    So, if you hate, GTFO.

    As to me, I am one of those referenced in the Preamble of the Constitution, one of those for which the country was established, the “Posterity”.

    Everyone else needs to integrate with gratitude or go.

    Good thing people are waking up and not putting up with ingrates like you. Learn your place or be gone.

  219. David Frum has always been a fake and a fraud. He got away with being a “Conservative” because the Right-wing is dumb. He started out in the 1990’s by proclaiming he was a “Conservative” who hated Pat Buchanan, Ann Coulter, and Rush Limbaugh. Then in the 2000’s he was attacking Robert Novak (with the help of NR’s Goldberg and Lowrey) as “Unpatriotic” for not supporting the Iraq War. Then he turned on Palin in 2008, and finally in 2010 went full Leftist.

    These fakes like Frum, Rubin, Little Green footballs, Bert Stephens, David Brooks, George Will got by because the Right REFUSES To be skeptical. Hopefully, that’s changing.

  220. @Anonymous
    Frum is not high IQ. Smarter than Podhoretz.

    Frum's assertions are consistently dumb. Moscow as white race capital? The whitest Russians usually have significant Asian admixture. They are Eurasians, Asiatics.

    Putin's face is actually exotic by western standards. Not the face of an Englishman. His 23 and Me results would be filled with weird Turkic artifacts and maybe even some Genghis Khan remnants etc. But I'm sure Frum thinks Putin = WASP.

    Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy, @El Dato, @SunBakedSuburb, @Romanian

    “Moscow as white race capital?”

    President Blumpf! has driven these people insane. Looking through their feverish lens, Moscow is the capital of Whiteness and a branch of Christianity that rejects Western Luciferianism. Plus, the Russian threat must be continuously propagated for Imperial cohesion because the Chinese threat, which contains some validity, has to be downplayed because favored plutocrats have made a fortune in China.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @SunBakedSuburb


    President Blumpf! has driven these people insane. Looking through their feverish lens, Moscow is the capital of Whiteness and a branch of Christianity that rejects Western Luciferianism. Plus, the Russian threat must be continuously propagated for Imperial cohesion because the Chinese threat, which contains some validity, has to be downplayed because favored plutocrats have made a fortune in China.

     

    Mitch McConnell has crawled into bed with a Chinese woman who has extremely shady ties to the Chinese Communist Party.

    The Bushes and Clintons and all the other trash in Swamp City DC have been colluding with the Chinese Communist Party to clam rake loot out of cheap labor in China.

    Globalization and financialization are scams that benefit the politician globalizers and the plutocrat globalizers and all the other greedy globalizer filth out there.

    Mitch McConnell also voted for Ronald Reagan's 1986 amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1135333268734251010?s=20
  221. @Jack D
    @nebulafox


    But more perniciously, the centrist people they know and think are good people probably hold views that they would consider “extreme”, and not in a good way: and they don’t know that, because non-progressives know better than to voice them in an age where progressivism is becoming increasingly more like a religion.
     
    It's very easy for elites to become detached from the actual pulse of the people, especially in a society where dissent is punished and the leadership keeps hearing what it wants to hear from the sycophants and yes men that they have surrounded themselves with. Right up until the moment when they received a drubbing at the polls, the pro-Beijing leadership of Hong Kong was utterly convinced that the "silent majority" backed them and that the (millions of) people demonstrating in the street were just a handful of rabble rousers.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    Well, mea culpa. Beijing deeply screwed up. I have noticed that this is a recurring problem for the CPC: they don’t tend to understand the psychology of people they don’t deal with regularly, aka, middle-aged party men, and that’s part of why they still absolutely suck at leveraging the soft power that is America’s big trump card. To a certain extent, you can see this all over China. Foreign bosses are often stunned to discover how popular they are with subordinates because they don’t treat them like crap.

    So, what now, do you reckon? Lam’s in between a rock and a hard place, and judging from the lack of concessions she’s offering, she knows it. Hong Kong is a very liberal place, but it isn’t a democracy: the elections matter less than what happens afterwards. Crack down on the protesters too hard, and Hong Kong’s going to be even more deeply screwed than it is: the root of many of the socioeconomic problems there are all the financial industries relocating to Shanghai, and this will exacerbate the exodus further. The weak central government-opposite of Singapore here, Hong Kong has a very bottom-up way of doing things-is unable to “push” an alternative, probably lacks the vision to boot. But let them run wild, and the PLA is right across the border in Shenzhen.

    Also, where’s LRC to comment on the situation on the ground when you need him? Steve should do a post that invites him to talk about it.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @nebulafox

    I'm afraid I really don't see a good way out of this. Lam is going to have to stick to her guns (literally) and hope that she can outlast the protests. She doesn't really have any choice - her masters in Beijing are not going to allow it any other way. But she has no local legitimacy anymore and all she can do is a defensive crouch. If they replace her, the next person has the exact same problem.

    Meanwhile, 2047 comes closer every day. I think anyone with brains and talent is going to start looking for an exit plan. A lot of people are going to end up in Canada, Australia, the UK. Maybe the drain will take some of the pressure off of housing prices but then again no one is going to bring any new money into the SAR.

  222. @Lot
    @Anonymous

    “ Why though?”

    I gave reasons why. Wisdom of our founders, other successful democracies, etc.

    I slightly disagree with Desi’s “men with families.”

    That’s better than what we have now, but the best was the qualifications used in early America and England like “owns property worth £30 or rents a house for more than £5 year” and included single men over 21 with their own household and a small number of women (mostly landed widows and unmarried heiresses).

    As for further “whys,” conservatism is partly about not abandoning what works in favor of untested innovations. Though now we have tested the broad franchise, I think it has failed.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    Though now we have tested the broad franchise, I think it has failed.

    What evidence would you point to that indicates that it has failed?

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anonymous

    What evidence would you point to that indicates that it has failed?

    What evidence would you accept?

  223. @AnotherDad
    @Desiderius


    That was a misread. I would restrict the vote to American men with families.

     

    I agree with your thrust here. For a civilization/nation to survive it must have patriarchy. (Patriarchy is a necessary, but not sufficient condition for the creation and maintenance of civilization.)

    However--as i described in my reply to Jesse--i think there is a sort of "sex neutral" approach to this--and other issues (like divorce). The core principle is to prioritize the family as the unit. It's not men voting or women voting, but the family voting. A husband and wife with children who are self-supporting get one vote.

    This isn't as dramatic or effective as returning to manhood suffrage--or your patriarchal suffrage. But it is a lot more easy to sell and can potentially bring more "moms" on side. This straight up eliminates all the damage from single women and single mom parasites. And realistically it will quashes a huge percentage of the current cancer of "good white" wives cancelling out their husbands' votes.

    ~~

    Not by race.
     
    Agreed. The solution to intractable racial issues is separation--separate nations. This is the great political innovation of the West. Free nations instead of multicultural empires. It enables republican self-government and is the path--the only path--toward peace.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Jack D

    You are never going to unscramble the omelet in America and even if you could, you wouldn’t want to. The multi-ethnic pre-war capitals of E. Europe – Budapest, Prague, Vienna were cauldrons of ferment that gave forth all sorts of geniuses, Jewish and non-Jewish. It wasn’t all good but a lot of it was. Their modern day mono-ethnic incarnations are deadly dull places that nothing new ever comes from, good or bad.

    Just as comparative advantage says that in international trade, you should let Italians design your shoes and Germans build your cars, the same is true within nations. Once you have reduce a nation to a monoethnicity, then no comparative advantage is possible.

    I know that this is your dream vision but it’s kind of nuts. If you really want that kind of mono-ethnic state, there are places in E. Europe that are like that now but I don’t think you’d really want to live in them.

    • Disagree: Herbert West
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    Jack is right, absimmilationist and sometimes bitterly anti-Semitic nonwhite new populations guarantee the centrality and longevity of the Hart-Cellar vision, especially as scientific racial identification becomes more practical, and the gullible whites who bought into guilt scams fall farther and farther from power. Hands Across America!

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @utu
    @Jack D

    "Just as comparative advantage says that in international trade, you should let Italians design your shoes and Germans build your cars, the same is true within nations. Once you have reduce a nation to a monoethnicity, then no comparative advantage is possible."

    To the contrary. Other way around. Diversity in different countries will kill the comparative advantage while different mono-ethnic societies make it possible.

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jack D


    The multi-ethnic pre-war capitals of E. Europe – Budapest, Prague, Vienna were cauldrons of ferment that gave forth all sorts of geniuses, Jewish and non-Jewish. It wasn’t all good but a lot of it was. Their modern day mono-ethnic incarnations are deadly dull places that nothing new ever comes from, good or bad.
     
    Sure

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvmxdOqx1ug
    , @AnotherDad
    @Jack D

    Jack, i've read enough of your stuff, to know that your Jewish identity is deeply important to you and Jewish supremacism is critical to your world view. But seriously take a deep breath.


    You are never going to unscramble the omelet in America and even if you could, you wouldn’t want to. The multi-ethnic pre-war capitals of E. Europe – Budapest, Prague, Vienna were cauldrons of ferment that gave forth all sorts of geniuses, Jewish and non-Jewish. It wasn’t all good but a lot of it was. Their modern day mono-ethnic incarnations are deadly dull places that nothing new ever comes from, good or bad.
     
    -- America.
    I'm not trying to "unscramble the omlet". The high point for America was the immediate post-War period i was born into. As i've noted many many times the Depression and War had a consolidating effect, forging a more unitary "one people" white America. (I'm a "mixed" product of that ... happy being in that omlet.) We still had the "legacy of slavery" to deal with--that's a deep problem as anyone HBD aware is aware. But ... mid-century America was pretty damn good, pretty damn productive and pretty damn nice. Unfortunately--and yes many other factors--the Jews weren't happy because of Christmas carol alienation or some other whiny Jewish shit and as the Jews rose, they relententless attacked and have considerably "deconstructed" it.

    Our current multicultural "ferment" in contrast accomplishes nothing--as we have to pat everyone's sensitivities on the back and and get their pronouns right. We certainly aren't doing moon landings and to the extent we still make pretty good aircraft that is living off the ground work, the legacy of the high-trust, high-competency mid-century America.

    -- Multi-ethnic, Central Europe, Jews, "ferment"
    LOL. If there's one obvious take-home from modern European history it is how thoroughly the Jew-light, one-people nations of Britain and France beat the crap out of the tired old Jew heavy "multi-cultural" empires--Austria, Russia. Heck, even Japan coming from feudal backwardness used its competent mono-ethnicity nationalism to rapidly develop to where it put the whoop ass on Russia. Multi-cultural==fragmented==failed. It was only when the Prussians cobbled together a one-people German state that the remnants of the Holy Roman Empire were back in the game at all.

    -- "Ferment", Jews. I know this offends your Jewish supremacism but "Jewish thought" absolutely sucks. Yes, Jews are smart. They have done good work piling on top of the scientific foundation/method developed in the West. But Jewish social/political thought? Please. A disaster, that's spawned human unhappiness and destruction beyond belief. The Anglo-Saxon thinkers have beat your guys like a drum. Better, more empirically grounded, ideas across the board--politically, socially, economically, even scientifically (especially when you start talking biology). If Jews had simply been banned from opening their mouths the world would have been clearer thinking, less violent, more propsperous, more pleasant place.


    Just as comparative advantage says that in international trade, you should let Italians design your shoes and Germans build your cars, the same is true within nations. Once you have reduce a nation to a monoethnicity, then no comparative advantage is possible.
     
    LOL. Seriously?

    "Comparative advantage" springs up within nations all the time because of geography--the coal is here, the iron is here, the corn grows well here, the wheat here, the Great Lakes make transport cheap here, the river makes it cheap over there--or because of social/industrial history leading to local competence, expertise, e.g. Silicon Valley.

    Actually the Italians have designed some very fine cars. But your very example debunks your point. You can have whatever "comparative advantage" is available from different ethnicities simply via international trade, without having to live with each other. That's the whole point of "international" trade. I don't have to actually live with a bunch of Chinese to enjoy whatever the heck it is that Chinese do well.

    Furthermore as Germany, or Italy or France or the US or Japan or Korea, it's hardly necessary to have ethnic diversity to do quality production. You have competent people ... you can build nice stuff and better yet if mono-ethnic you get to actually enjoy your productivity and prosperity without a bunch of ethnic contention.


    I know that this is your dream vision but it’s kind of nuts. If you really want that kind of mono-ethnic state, there are places in E. Europe that are like that now but I don’t think you’d really want to live in them.
     
    No Jack, you are nuts. I'm sorry. You come from a middle man minority and--despite being an intelligent guy--are simply incapable of viewing the world as it and insist that it really, really, must be better if it is all remade to be comfortable for Jews exploit.

    But essentially all of history debunks you. The rise of Britain debunks you. The rise of France debunks you. The crappiness/unpleasantness of Russia debunks you. The post-war pleasantness of the Nordic countries ... and now their multicultural dystopias debunk you. The rise of the US--its continual struggles with the "legacy of slavery" and now it's multicultural decline debunks you. Japan, Korea debunk you. China kicks the "comparative advantage heavy" India's ass debunks you. Heck even Israel debunks you. The Jews--now with their own nation--are creating a very pleasant prosperous place, with the shitty part being (much like the US) the unresolved multi-ethnic issues.

    All of history stands up and says people really like living with people of the same culture and such one people marry-the-girl-next-door nations--when the people are high IQ and competent--can develop high-trust at national scale and become very, very prosperous and extremely pleasant places to live. Jack, history is a massive debunking of your Jewish middle man minority "diversity" ideology.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Lot, @AnotherDad, @Mr. Anon, @gsjackson

  224. @Prof. Woland
    @Colin Wright

    I have no doubt that one of the main reasons Russia is enemy #1 on the left in this country is that they are white. Due to the extreme diversity in their coalition, the main thing that unites them is what they are against not what they are for. And the more diverse they become, the more unstable their coalition.

    Their constant need for demagoguery to glue themselves together feeds into all aspects including foreign policy. China is much more threatening and amoral but they are non-white. Same for Islam. But they way it works on the left, this cannot be noticed which places even more focus on Putin. In a sense, they are not even a proxy like assault weapons or the flag. They are the real deal; white, blue eyed, and blond.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland, @Colin Wright, @Kolya Krassotkin

    ‘I have no doubt that one of the main reasons Russia is enemy #1 on the left in this country is that they are white…’

    I genuinely fail to understand where the ‘it’s the Rooshians’ thing came from — or even how the Left can seriously advance it.

    Let’s leave aside the fact of the matter: Russia isn’t the foreign power that influences our policies.

    There’s also the point that I’m old enough to remember — and so is most of the Left — when it was the Left that was for detente and coexistence, and all that.

    …and that’s when Russia was a genuine threat, with both the ideology and the means to bring about global catastrophe.

    Now Russia is at worst somewhat troublesome — and here’s the Left, banging the drum for provocation.

    Go figure. Whatever their motives, they sure as hell aren’t being honest about them.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Colin Wright

    >where the Russia thing came from
    Three good possibilities which bolster each other:
    1 -- A cynical calculation on the part of deep staters that enough Cold War-era boomer brainwash is left over to make Evil Moscow an easy (re)sell.
    2 -- The secret economy of multiple conspiracies, involving people like Bill Browder and Lawrence Summers, but also players as diverse and colorful as Israeli human traffickers and Islamic terrorists, to fully exploit Russian weakness, especially right after the fall of Communism. This is like Hara Kiri (the magnificent original and not the oddly neutered remake) or some Western revenge epic -- criminals have effectively gotten away with the big crime, and now years later a mysterious stranger comes to town asking unsettling questions.
    3 -- Ink spilled over nefarious Muscovy is harmonious silence regarding Beijing.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

  225. @Art Deco
    @chris moffatt

    David Frum is a loser from Toronto who couldn’t make it in Canada despite riding his mother’s coat tails.

    He has a degree from Yale Law School and landed a position at the Wall Street Journal. The term 'loser' doesn't mean what you think it means.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @SunBakedSuburb, @Jack Henson

    You are an insufferable bag of gas. The type of gas one receives from a large serving of Indian food.

  226. @Stan Adams
    @Moses

    I'm a goy, but I spend a lot of time around Jews. I've been considering starting up a new advice column called "Ask Bubbe."

    Typical question:


    Dear Bubbe,

    A few years ago, I married a beautiful woman. I thought we were very happy. But the other day, I came home and she was shtupping the pool guy. What should I do?

    Maury Feldstein
     
    Bubbe sez:

    Dear Maury,

    If you had listened to your mother, and your bubbe, and your other female relatives, and if you had married a nice Jewish girl instead of some shiksa with big tits, you wouldn't be in this situation right now. So my advice to you is to ditch the bitch and mate with your own kind. Hire a good divorce lawyer and rake the c**t over the coals.

    Love,
    Bubbe
     
    Does it ring true?

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘I’m a goy, but I spend a lot of time around Jews. I’ve been considering starting up a new advice column called “Ask Bubbe.”’

    When you start the column, be sure and post the link.

    …and be sure you download everything you write. You’ll lose it otherwise.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Colin Wright

    I wrote the book on digital hoarding.

  227. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Sherry Khan

    When Team White withdraws into its rural Oranias and Team Brown controls everywhere else, Sikhs and Han will sneer and spit at your mixed-race children. "How could their mother have married a Paki," they will laugh to themselves.

    Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker, @Corvinus

    Browns treat other browns like shit. I know a brown guy who gets treated like a subhuman by all the other brown people. It doesn’t seem to bother him. Guessing it has something to do with caste.

    Aliens do not respect tolerance or liberalism.

  228. @Art Deco
    @Massimo Heitor

    You kind of wonder if Frum's whole life is a species of cosplay. At this point, he's independently wealthy (and estate planning imperatives may have made him such well before the previous generation died) and his wife also comes from money; her family if not his were people of influence in Ontario. The two of them emigrated for whatever reason. He trained as a lawyer, then never practiced. He landed a job as an editorial writer at The Wall Street Journal, then landed a job in George Bush the Elder's PR apparat. Over the years, he's played a libertarian, a warrior contra Jihadis, a paladin of Rockefeller Republicanism (making the argument the Republicans were somehow obligated to embrace Obama administration policy tar babies because reasons), and now a NeverTrump fantasist. He's burned his bridges to a succession of people (some of whom a sensible person wouldn't have wanted to associate with, to be sure); he was cashiered by the 2d Bush administration, went out of his way to alienate the Rockford Institute and Peter Brimelow, cut ties with National Review, was sh!tcanned by the American Enterprise Institute (in a most embarrassing way, costing him friends), and was at one time the employer of one Alex Pareene (the controversy around which cost him more friends).

    Replies: @Prester John, @Massimo Heitor, @bjondo

    @Art, I’m stunned that you know that much about the life and career of David Frum.

    That guy has made so many missteps and burned so many bridges, I’m surprised he still has a career as a prominent pundit.

  229. @Sherry Khan
    @Gaius Gracchus

    I am an American and so are my husband and Children.
    Who on this earth are you to tell me about where I should move?
    Racist and Disgusting what you just said

    Replies: @SFG, @ThreeCranes, @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @William Badwhite, @OilcanFloyd, @J.Ross, @Gaius Gracchus, @Daniel Chieh, @Kylie, @Joe Schmoe

    You sound fowl-like.

  230. At this point, Frum’s irrationality regarding Russians stems from something highly personal. My bet is some Russian stripper took his $20 and didn’t give him the happy ending he desired. A country who’s economy is the size of Italy’s , military spends less than 10% of the Pentagon’s annual budget and who’s main exports are medicaid fraud, guys in black track suits and strippers with c-section scars is not a threat to the US.

    How Mr. Axis of Evil is able to show his face without being laughed at, spat on or punched is inexplicable. zreally, how do the liberals have YUGE problems with Trump, but are tolerant of this slug? How may dead and maimed Americans can point to that speech he wrote?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Bugg

    At purchasing-power-parity, Russia gross domestic product is $4.4 tn, almost identical with Germany's and the world's 6th largest. Italy's is about 40% lower. About 4% of their output is accounted for by military expenditure. Russia's merchandise export trade is dominated by fuel and minerals (70% of the revenue most years), though these account for only about 17% of domestic product. If you bracket out the fuel and mineral exports, Russia's a high-middle income country whose per capita product in real terms is roughly similar to that of the U.S. ca. 1962.

    Replies: @Lot

  231. @nebulafox
    @Jack D

    Well, mea culpa. Beijing deeply screwed up. I have noticed that this is a recurring problem for the CPC: they don't tend to understand the psychology of people they don't deal with regularly, aka, middle-aged party men, and that's part of why they still absolutely suck at leveraging the soft power that is America's big trump card. To a certain extent, you can see this all over China. Foreign bosses are often stunned to discover how popular they are with subordinates because they don't treat them like crap.

    So, what now, do you reckon? Lam's in between a rock and a hard place, and judging from the lack of concessions she's offering, she knows it. Hong Kong is a very liberal place, but it isn't a democracy: the elections matter less than what happens afterwards. Crack down on the protesters too hard, and Hong Kong's going to be even more deeply screwed than it is: the root of many of the socioeconomic problems there are all the financial industries relocating to Shanghai, and this will exacerbate the exodus further. The weak central government-opposite of Singapore here, Hong Kong has a very bottom-up way of doing things-is unable to "push" an alternative, probably lacks the vision to boot. But let them run wild, and the PLA is right across the border in Shenzhen.

    Also, where's LRC to comment on the situation on the ground when you need him? Steve should do a post that invites him to talk about it.

    Replies: @Jack D

    I’m afraid I really don’t see a good way out of this. Lam is going to have to stick to her guns (literally) and hope that she can outlast the protests. She doesn’t really have any choice – her masters in Beijing are not going to allow it any other way. But she has no local legitimacy anymore and all she can do is a defensive crouch. If they replace her, the next person has the exact same problem.

    Meanwhile, 2047 comes closer every day. I think anyone with brains and talent is going to start looking for an exit plan. A lot of people are going to end up in Canada, Australia, the UK. Maybe the drain will take some of the pressure off of housing prices but then again no one is going to bring any new money into the SAR.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  232. @AnotherDad
    @Sherry Khan

    Ok, i've got to give credit to the cleverness of "Sherry Khan". I'm old and slow so i didn't catch it right away, but--first rate.

    And--to be fair--there are a smattering of "Sherry Khan"s out there. Women who have defected and sold their bodies to enemy foreign men ... which in our weird clueless state allows those men entry into our nation. And the above blather is plausibly what such a woman might spew. So maybe there is some value in this.

    Still this is the 3rd or 4th of these sock puppets i've noticed in the last couple weeks that seem to be from the same source.

    All while our Tiny Duck--who was a comforting presence and occasionally hilarious--remains AWOL.

    "Sherry Khan" if you are the Duck, please give up this sockpuppetry and return to your true calling as "Tiny Duck".

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Daniel Chieh, @Anonymous, @Lot, @black sea

    I think going as Tiny Duck would be a bit too obvious for him to get bites, so he’s shifting things around a bit.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Daniel Chieh

    He’s found out the way around Ron’s protocols that keep people from using multiple aliases. Ron understands that it isn’t worth trying to make his screening system foolproof since most of us respect the rule.
    I think TD is pretty mentally limited because he seems to keep giving himself the giggles from doing the same old schtick year after year. I suggested that he broaden his act by also doing parodies of other fools like National Review style cuckservatives who otherwise never appear as commenters. I even gave him a new alias he could use, Big Cuck, but no dice.
    It’s kind of unfortunate that we don’t get much range of commenters here. Very occasionally, veins popping of the forehead leftists like Nick Diaz, or moderate liberals like Corvinus or Paleoliberal will drop in, but generally people who disagree stay away from this site.
    I think it is a combination of not wanting to contaminate themselves by reading dissident commentary, already having the megaphone so they don’t need to bother with debate and an increasing tendency to go for outright suppression of dissidence instead of debate. I guess when you have enough power the only argument you really need is “SHUT UP!”.

    , @Johann Ricke
    @Daniel Chieh

    Re constraints on Chinese territorial expansion, here's an insightful essay on the pressures facing reigning emperors. It describes the role of the provincial military governors (aka jiedushi) of the Tang dynasty during its fairly long tenure:


    Jiedushi for most of times were the scapegoats for the army. It was the army who was, as the historians described, arrogant and indulged.

    This is a big topic and you can review my previous answers on the Tang Dynasty to get more details.

    In short, the Tang army since the mid period was quite similar with the Roman Empire's legions after the Marius reform. The army were made by the professional full time soldiers rather than duty fullfilling citizens or farmers. The payment for the soldiers were so high such that they had no motivation to go back or retire to work. Any attempt to cut down the payment, their number or to mistreat them slightly will lead to their rebellion and hijacking the Jiedushi to rebel against the Emperor or to maintain isolation in the military zone known as fanzheng. If the jiefushi refused, the soldiers can easily murder him and put someone else on the top and continue until the jiedushi agreed. This formed a bad circle because to afford the spending of the elite soldiers, the government needed to increase the tax on normal people, which would further to encourage many people to serve in the army and to discourage them from leaving.

    What's more due to the massive expansion of the Tang Dynasty, many regions on the rim of the Empire remained under developed such that the central government couldn't control directly. To deal with it, the Emperor had to let go of the power to the military zones for "autonomy" to deal with the "barbarians" such as Tibetan, Turks, Khitan, Nanzhao.

    Also, a large percent of barbarians served in the army so that the army became highly mixed and hence furthered disorganized.

    For these reasons, Jiedushi, Emperor and the eunuch class, bureaucrats for most of times since the mid period were actually working together to contain these soldiers. And these soldiers also contributed to the Tang Dynasty instead in term of fighting barbarians. So it's not just simply black or white or positive and negative. The soldiers apparently had more contributions than negative influences to the Tang.

    What made Tang fall wasn't anshi rebellion because Tang retained strong for another 100 years. What destroyed Tang was the Huang Chao rebellion from peasants. The military zones were mostly consumed and the eunuch class was butchered. The imperial court totally "lost face" to the soldiers such that many of they no longer loyal to the Tang Dynasty. This created the earth for the new generation of jiedushi (jiedushi 2.0) who were also no longer loyal to the Empire and anybody but themselves. Similarly, as the new "Emperors", these 2.0 jiedushi were also betrayed one by one after each other.

    This struggle continued and escalated in the following "five dynasties and ten kingdoms" period as the general politics became normal: once the previous emperor died, a general would suddenly self claim to be the Emperor or to be "advocated" by his army to be the Emperor. If he didn't agree to rebel, his army would murder him and pick someone else to name as Emperor. The cause was still the same. Soldiers wanna make money by raiding the cities and getting the reward for fighting, and they had zero control from the authority due to the fall of the Tang Dynasty.

    Eventually this problem was solved by the Song Dynasty in which the elite army was forced to withdraw from the military zones but back to the regions near capital under the direct control of the central government, and the economic reform encouraged them to go back to work as farmers.

    What was more the bureaucratic management was imposed to divide the power from generals by bureaucrats. The economic development in the Song period increased the government control on many regions due to the increase of tax income and population such that the need for military zones was decreased.

    And lots of arrogant and indulged elite units also suffered a tremendous population reduction after the chaotic period of the late Tang and five dynasties and ten kingdoms. For instance, the late Tang Emperor, who was "advocated" as the new Emperor by the army that rebelled against his brother as the previous Emperor, massacred the entire unit and its families (around 20,000) after he secured the power. These "natural selection", "invisible hand" on "bad apples" also made the stabilization of army later on possible.

    But these reforms also lowered the fighting power of army such that we observed the weak military performance by the Song army and the rise of Mongols. So nothing was perfect back then. You either had a strong army who may rebel or a weak army who was loyal.
     
    Thanks to subordinates who had their eye on their own kingdoms or the imperial throne itself, Chinese emperors were always scrambling either to keep the existing empire together or to keep their heads. When they felt secure in their domestic holdings, they embarked on foreign military expeditions. But the danger from within was always in the back of their minds.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Daniel Chieh

  233. @Art Deco
    @Bragadocious

    He wasn't a major figure at all. He was an opinion journalist advocating a position along side of scores of other opinion journalists.

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @Massimo Heitor

    He wasn’t a major figure at all. He was an opinion journalist advocating a position along side of scores of other opinion journalists.

    I just wrote that I was stunned that you knew so much about Frum’s life and career, but here you seem to not know. Frum was a speech writer within George W Bush’s Administration. Sure, afterwards, he is known as an op-ed pundit.

  234. @SunBakedSuburb
    @Anonymous

    "Moscow as white race capital?"

    President Blumpf! has driven these people insane. Looking through their feverish lens, Moscow is the capital of Whiteness and a branch of Christianity that rejects Western Luciferianism. Plus, the Russian threat must be continuously propagated for Imperial cohesion because the Chinese threat, which contains some validity, has to be downplayed because favored plutocrats have made a fortune in China.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    President Blumpf! has driven these people insane. Looking through their feverish lens, Moscow is the capital of Whiteness and a branch of Christianity that rejects Western Luciferianism. Plus, the Russian threat must be continuously propagated for Imperial cohesion because the Chinese threat, which contains some validity, has to be downplayed because favored plutocrats have made a fortune in China.

    Mitch McConnell has crawled into bed with a Chinese woman who has extremely shady ties to the Chinese Communist Party.

    The Bushes and Clintons and all the other trash in Swamp City DC have been colluding with the Chinese Communist Party to clam rake loot out of cheap labor in China.

    Globalization and financialization are scams that benefit the politician globalizers and the plutocrat globalizers and all the other greedy globalizer filth out there.

    Mitch McConnell also voted for Ronald Reagan’s 1986 amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

  235. @Colin Wright
    @Prof. Woland

    'I have no doubt that one of the main reasons Russia is enemy #1 on the left in this country is that they are white...'

    I genuinely fail to understand where the 'it's the Rooshians' thing came from -- or even how the Left can seriously advance it.

    Let's leave aside the fact of the matter: Russia isn't the foreign power that influences our policies.

    There's also the point that I'm old enough to remember -- and so is most of the Left -- when it was the Left that was for detente and coexistence, and all that.

    ...and that's when Russia was a genuine threat, with both the ideology and the means to bring about global catastrophe.

    Now Russia is at worst somewhat troublesome -- and here's the Left, banging the drum for provocation.

    Go figure. Whatever their motives, they sure as hell aren't being honest about them.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    >where the Russia thing came from
    Three good possibilities which bolster each other:
    1 — A cynical calculation on the part of deep staters that enough Cold War-era boomer brainwash is left over to make Evil Moscow an easy (re)sell.
    2 — The secret economy of multiple conspiracies, involving people like Bill Browder and Lawrence Summers, but also players as diverse and colorful as Israeli human traffickers and Islamic terrorists, to fully exploit Russian weakness, especially right after the fall of Communism. This is like Hara Kiri (the magnificent original and not the oddly neutered remake) or some Western revenge epic — criminals have effectively gotten away with the big crime, and now years later a mysterious stranger comes to town asking unsettling questions.
    3 — Ink spilled over nefarious Muscovy is harmonious silence regarding Beijing.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @J.Ross

    I heard today that African Americans who were polled were 38% against Trump's impeachment. Trump may get a larger share of the AA vote than any Republican in living memory.

    Perhaps they relate to him better than to the Adam Schiffs and Jerry Nadlers of the Democratic Party. After all, The Man is always on Trump's case and snitches are ratting him out, but he beat the rap because he dindu nuffin!

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @J.Ross

  236. @Bill B.
    listening to John Mearsheimer say that when the USA tried to use its unipolar moment to force the world to turn liberal-democratic I am reminded that at this time the elites went bat-crazy in their enthusiasm for migration. Invade the world, invite the world.

    If, as Mearsheimer emphatically states, that moment is over and anyway revealed as ridiculous in concept, why hasn’t the open borders fad also faded. If all people’s do not want to live in liberal democracies then they can’t live together right?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eFtsg3jgH1Y

    Replies: @216, @Sean, @istevefan

    why hasn’t the open borders fad also faded.

    Because it’s on autopilot now, and as Steve likes to point out, the current crop of newcomers want to keep the door open until their extended families get in.

  237. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    You are never going to unscramble the omelet in America and even if you could, you wouldn't want to. The multi-ethnic pre-war capitals of E. Europe - Budapest, Prague, Vienna were cauldrons of ferment that gave forth all sorts of geniuses, Jewish and non-Jewish. It wasn't all good but a lot of it was. Their modern day mono-ethnic incarnations are deadly dull places that nothing new ever comes from, good or bad.

    Just as comparative advantage says that in international trade, you should let Italians design your shoes and Germans build your cars, the same is true within nations. Once you have reduce a nation to a monoethnicity, then no comparative advantage is possible.

    I know that this is your dream vision but it's kind of nuts. If you really want that kind of mono-ethnic state, there are places in E. Europe that are like that now but I don't think you'd really want to live in them.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @utu, @Bardon Kaldian, @AnotherDad

    Jack is right, absimmilationist and sometimes bitterly anti-Semitic nonwhite new populations guarantee the centrality and longevity of the Hart-Cellar vision, especially as scientific racial identification becomes more practical, and the gullible whites who bought into guilt scams fall farther and farther from power. Hands Across America!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @J.Ross


    Jack is right, absimmilationist and sometimes bitterly anti-Semitic nonwhite new populations guarantee the centrality and longevity of the Hart-Cellar vision, especially as scientific racial identification becomes more practical, and the gullible whites who bought into guilt scams fall farther and farther from power.
     
    What the hell does this sentence even mean?

    Replies: @J.Ross

  238. @Hail
    In other Tucker Carlson news, he had Scott Adams on his show tonight.

    In Adams' segment, the two discussed who has more cult-like tendencies, core Trump supporters or Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers. Adams said definitely the latter.

    Now that Scott Adams is in, is Steve Sailer next?

    Replies: @216, @Anonymous, @Polynikes, @AndrewR, @Harry Baldwin, @AnotherDad, @Matra, @Antiwar7

    Scott Adams has been all over MSM for decades. Since Trump’s election I don’t think you see him anymore on CNN or similar outlets but Fox having him on is no big deal.

  239. @AnotherDad
    @Sherry Khan

    Ok, i've got to give credit to the cleverness of "Sherry Khan". I'm old and slow so i didn't catch it right away, but--first rate.

    And--to be fair--there are a smattering of "Sherry Khan"s out there. Women who have defected and sold their bodies to enemy foreign men ... which in our weird clueless state allows those men entry into our nation. And the above blather is plausibly what such a woman might spew. So maybe there is some value in this.

    Still this is the 3rd or 4th of these sock puppets i've noticed in the last couple weeks that seem to be from the same source.

    All while our Tiny Duck--who was a comforting presence and occasionally hilarious--remains AWOL.

    "Sherry Khan" if you are the Duck, please give up this sockpuppetry and return to your true calling as "Tiny Duck".

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Daniel Chieh, @Anonymous, @Lot, @black sea

    Ok, i’ve got to give credit to the cleverness of “Sherry Khan”. I’m old and slow so i didn’t catch it right away, but–first rate.

    Is there a pun in the name that I am missing?

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Anonymous

    https://books.google.com/books?id=YQvifdTlRAsC&pg=PA3

  240. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    You are never going to unscramble the omelet in America and even if you could, you wouldn't want to. The multi-ethnic pre-war capitals of E. Europe - Budapest, Prague, Vienna were cauldrons of ferment that gave forth all sorts of geniuses, Jewish and non-Jewish. It wasn't all good but a lot of it was. Their modern day mono-ethnic incarnations are deadly dull places that nothing new ever comes from, good or bad.

    Just as comparative advantage says that in international trade, you should let Italians design your shoes and Germans build your cars, the same is true within nations. Once you have reduce a nation to a monoethnicity, then no comparative advantage is possible.

    I know that this is your dream vision but it's kind of nuts. If you really want that kind of mono-ethnic state, there are places in E. Europe that are like that now but I don't think you'd really want to live in them.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @utu, @Bardon Kaldian, @AnotherDad

    “Just as comparative advantage says that in international trade, you should let Italians design your shoes and Germans build your cars, the same is true within nations. Once you have reduce a nation to a monoethnicity, then no comparative advantage is possible.”

    To the contrary. Other way around. Diversity in different countries will kill the comparative advantage while different mono-ethnic societies make it possible.

  241. @Anonymous
    @Lot


    Though now we have tested the broad franchise, I think it has failed.
     
    What evidence would you point to that indicates that it has failed?

    Replies: @anon

    What evidence would you point to that indicates that it has failed?

    What evidence would you accept?

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  242. @Art Deco
    @Moses

    It was a banal and mildly derisive term applied (by a skeptical grandmother) to my sister, among others. Rabbi Abramowitz needs to grow a sense of humor.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Dissident, @Moses

    The Wikipedia entry quoted by comment-poster “Moses” on the etymology of shiksa is correct. The term is the feminine equivalent of sheigetz. Both terms are, as per their literal definition, inherently highly pejorative and dehumanizing. I will not deny that there are Jews who knowingly use them that way. But, from my experience at least, there would also appear to be many Jews who use the terms shiksa and sheigetz in complete ignorance of their actual meaning, innocently thinking that such terms are merely synonyms for gentile or non-Jew*. Additionally, as a Jew myself, I am able to report from firsthand experience that even among Jews who do know the literal meaning of sheigetz/shiksa, the terms are widely used merely as synonyms for gentile or non-Jew, with no malice or deliberate intent to insult.

    Personally, I refrain from using either shiksa or shegeitz as generic terms for non-Jews.

    *As goy truly is, oft-repeated charges to the contrary notwithstanding. Goy literally means nation, and when used in common parlance to refer to non-Jews is equivalent-to and no more pejorative than the English gentile.

    It was a banal and mildly derisive term applied (by a skeptical grandmother) to my sister, among others.

    Such usage would possibly appear to be supported by extrapolating from how my copy of Harduf’s Transliterated English-Yiddish/Yiddish-English Dictionary translates “sheigets”: as “impudent boy”. The same reference work translates “shikse” merely as “gentile girl”. This would apparently support the observations I made above about these words being widely used innocently.

    I do not have access at the moment to the far more complete, comprehensive and authoritative reference work by the renowned late Yiddishist Uriel Weinreich. Perhaps one of our resident Yiddishists could help out here.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Dissident

    Both terms are, as per their literal definition, inherently highly pejorative and dehumanizing.

    Nobody'd gotten the memo in the suburban township we were living in in 1978.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Dissident


    Goy literally means nation, and when used in common parlance to refer to non-Jews is equivalent-to and no more pejorative than the English gentile.
     
    Actually, gentile is far more offensive than goy. Same with anglo and gringo.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Kylie

    , @Anon
    @Dissident


    Personally, I refrain from using either shiksa or shegeitz as generic terms for non-Jews.
     
    Thanks, courtesy is appreciated.
  243. @Bugg
    At this point, Frum's irrationality regarding Russians stems from something highly personal. My bet is some Russian stripper took his $20 and didn't give him the happy ending he desired. A country who's economy is the size of Italy's , military spends less than 10% of the Pentagon's annual budget and who's main exports are medicaid fraud, guys in black track suits and strippers with c-section scars is not a threat to the US.

    How Mr. Axis of Evil is able to show his face without being laughed at, spat on or punched is inexplicable. zreally, how do the liberals have YUGE problems with Trump, but are tolerant of this slug? How may dead and maimed Americans can point to that speech he wrote?

    Replies: @Art Deco

    At purchasing-power-parity, Russia gross domestic product is $4.4 tn, almost identical with Germany’s and the world’s 6th largest. Italy’s is about 40% lower. About 4% of their output is accounted for by military expenditure. Russia’s merchandise export trade is dominated by fuel and minerals (70% of the revenue most years), though these account for only about 17% of domestic product. If you bracket out the fuel and mineral exports, Russia’s a high-middle income country whose per capita product in real terms is roughly similar to that of the U.S. ca. 1962.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Art Deco

    “ At purchasing-power-parity”

    PPP is fine for comparing average living standards between countries. But not for ability to project soft and economic power.

    The fact it costs the equivalent of $1.25 or whatever to get a haircut in Putingrad is a sign that a straight dollar income comparison understates Russian living standards. But it doesn’t change the fact the products of Russians’ labor and their local currency is not valued by the rest of the world.

  244. OT. The so-called Adversity Score turns out to be little more than an inverse SAT score. Not that there’s anything surprising about that.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-happens-if-sat-scores-consider-adversity-11574773201

  245. @Sherry Khan
    @Athletic and Whitesplosive

    You can't do anything.
    We are here to stay and don't forget you and your progeny will be and should be persecuted and dispossessed for behaving like this.
    Trump will lose so badly that it will send a shiver down the spine of you and your Nazi colleagues.
    It's payback time.
    Let's see who wins: Trashy Whites like you who behave like bigots or progressives like me who embrace multiculturalism.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Johann Ricke, @Ozymandias, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

    ‘Let’s see who wins: Trashy Whites like you who behave like bigots or progressives like me who embrace multiculturalism.’

    Now, that’s odd: you’re ‘progressive’ and ’embrace multiculturalism,’ but you just advocated persecuting and dispossessing ‘trashy whites.’

    I guess it’s just ‘trashy whites’ you would dispossess — sort of like the Klan had no problem with ‘good niggers.’

    Have I got this right?

  246. @nebulafox
    @Ragno

    The aggressive flag-waving and military/intelligence sector fetishizing from the Left in general is pretty bizarre for people old enough to remember the mid-2000s. I can't imagine how it must be for someone who remembers the 1970s.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @J.Ross

    I remember from the 70s (or possibly the early 80s) the excellent documentary series “Vietnam, the Ten Thousand Day War,” with material and interviews from the period and shortly after it. Near the end they did an episode about the poor sick screwed-up Commie-hypnotized kids. They interviewed a campus organizer who matter-of-factly stated that these radicals would be entering the halls of power by simply waiting and growing up. I believe this was Jerry Rubin, but the guy interviewed did later have an office in the first Clinton White House.
    As any Czech could tell you, regarding Soviet horror at American atrocities in South-East Asia, war is only bad when they do it.

  247. Anonymous[102] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    Jack is right, absimmilationist and sometimes bitterly anti-Semitic nonwhite new populations guarantee the centrality and longevity of the Hart-Cellar vision, especially as scientific racial identification becomes more practical, and the gullible whites who bought into guilt scams fall farther and farther from power. Hands Across America!

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Jack is right, absimmilationist and sometimes bitterly anti-Semitic nonwhite new populations guarantee the centrality and longevity of the Hart-Cellar vision, especially as scientific racial identification becomes more practical, and the gullible whites who bought into guilt scams fall farther and farther from power.

    What the hell does this sentence even mean?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    https://media.giphy.com/media/TkAKod1DAzqaA/giphy.gif

    Jack is saying that (to an extent) multikulti is inevitable. He's right in that a standard of severe purity is impossible. But yet however though, many of the individial component parts of multikulti are supremacists, internally monocultural, grudgingly tolerating external multimulti for a benefits check, or absimilationists (that is, they do not assimilate, they stick together, they are merely geographically American). So you have something like Austria-Hungary, a fake multi-kulti blanket covering multiple militancies.

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Zmvt7yFTtt8/maxresdefault.jpg

  248. Dear Tucker,

    If David Frum opposes you, then you are going in the right direction.

  249. @nebulafox
    @Senor Moose

    It doesn't even require that you be a neocon, just a member of America's bipartisan elite with its assumptions about how the world should work, assumptions that are so reinforced and coddled that genuine incomprehension results when they run into somebody (like Putin) who views the world differently. You can't really understand Obama and Putin butting heads in non-ideological terms, and Obama, whatever his flaws, was no neocon.

    Russia has the GDP of Mexico, one that is constantly bled dry by severe corruption, and in stark contrast to the old USSR, cannot project power outside of long-time satellites or areas with ethnic Russians in them. To say that it is the main threat the US faces in the world is ludicrous. Russia actually chooses to invest in a conventional military, unlike most of Europe, so they can vastly overpower them without us around, but it is hardly Moscow's fault that the Europeans buy into the fantasy that they can have a US-style high-tech military for only a tenth of the budget.

    Replies: @Jack Henson

    Russia’s “conventional” military has actually been winning wars though.

  250. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    You are never going to unscramble the omelet in America and even if you could, you wouldn't want to. The multi-ethnic pre-war capitals of E. Europe - Budapest, Prague, Vienna were cauldrons of ferment that gave forth all sorts of geniuses, Jewish and non-Jewish. It wasn't all good but a lot of it was. Their modern day mono-ethnic incarnations are deadly dull places that nothing new ever comes from, good or bad.

    Just as comparative advantage says that in international trade, you should let Italians design your shoes and Germans build your cars, the same is true within nations. Once you have reduce a nation to a monoethnicity, then no comparative advantage is possible.

    I know that this is your dream vision but it's kind of nuts. If you really want that kind of mono-ethnic state, there are places in E. Europe that are like that now but I don't think you'd really want to live in them.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @utu, @Bardon Kaldian, @AnotherDad

    The multi-ethnic pre-war capitals of E. Europe – Budapest, Prague, Vienna were cauldrons of ferment that gave forth all sorts of geniuses, Jewish and non-Jewish. It wasn’t all good but a lot of it was. Their modern day mono-ethnic incarnations are deadly dull places that nothing new ever comes from, good or bad.

    Sure

  251. @Reg Cæsar
    @Lot


    Though now we have tested the broad franchise
     
    https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/square_small/4/48397/1063257-title_fatbroad.jpg

    Replies: @Lot

  252. @Art Deco
    @chris moffatt

    David Frum is a loser from Toronto who couldn’t make it in Canada despite riding his mother’s coat tails.

    He has a degree from Yale Law School and landed a position at the Wall Street Journal. The term 'loser' doesn't mean what you think it means.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @SunBakedSuburb, @Jack Henson

    Yeah, a loser. Thanks for proving the point.

  253. @J.Ross
    @Colin Wright

    >where the Russia thing came from
    Three good possibilities which bolster each other:
    1 -- A cynical calculation on the part of deep staters that enough Cold War-era boomer brainwash is left over to make Evil Moscow an easy (re)sell.
    2 -- The secret economy of multiple conspiracies, involving people like Bill Browder and Lawrence Summers, but also players as diverse and colorful as Israeli human traffickers and Islamic terrorists, to fully exploit Russian weakness, especially right after the fall of Communism. This is like Hara Kiri (the magnificent original and not the oddly neutered remake) or some Western revenge epic -- criminals have effectively gotten away with the big crime, and now years later a mysterious stranger comes to town asking unsettling questions.
    3 -- Ink spilled over nefarious Muscovy is harmonious silence regarding Beijing.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    I heard today that African Americans who were polled were 38% against Trump’s impeachment. Trump may get a larger share of the AA vote than any Republican in living memory.

    Perhaps they relate to him better than to the Adam Schiffs and Jerry Nadlers of the Democratic Party. After all, The Man is always on Trump’s case and snitches are ratting him out, but he beat the rap because he dindu nuffin!

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Harry Baldwin

    'I heard today that African Americans who were polled were 38% against Trump’s impeachment...'

    They probably can't figure out what Trump did that was wrong.

    In this, they are like the rest of us.

    , @J.Ross
    @Harry Baldwin

    The entire case necessary for Kanye West is that his Hollywood Handler tried to have him committed.
    Rumor: Kim got attacked by Muslims or "refugees" in Paris a while back. It was covered up with a replacement story (hotel room robbed by infamous and novelesque Serbian jewel thieves) but it woke them up hard. The fact is that, at a basic level, the globalists have no control and no idea what they're doing. They cannot guarantee your safety unless you are a Bilderberg VIP (witness the German minister whose daughter was refugeed in public), they cannot control their serfs, and their one idea is to keep going forward as fast as they can. And we're the "accelerationists"!

  254. @Art Deco
    @Bugg

    At purchasing-power-parity, Russia gross domestic product is $4.4 tn, almost identical with Germany's and the world's 6th largest. Italy's is about 40% lower. About 4% of their output is accounted for by military expenditure. Russia's merchandise export trade is dominated by fuel and minerals (70% of the revenue most years), though these account for only about 17% of domestic product. If you bracket out the fuel and mineral exports, Russia's a high-middle income country whose per capita product in real terms is roughly similar to that of the U.S. ca. 1962.

    Replies: @Lot

    “ At purchasing-power-parity”

    PPP is fine for comparing average living standards between countries. But not for ability to project soft and economic power.

    The fact it costs the equivalent of $1.25 or whatever to get a haircut in Putingrad is a sign that a straight dollar income comparison understates Russian living standards. But it doesn’t change the fact the products of Russians’ labor and their local currency is not valued by the rest of the world.

  255. @Harry Baldwin
    @J.Ross

    I heard today that African Americans who were polled were 38% against Trump's impeachment. Trump may get a larger share of the AA vote than any Republican in living memory.

    Perhaps they relate to him better than to the Adam Schiffs and Jerry Nadlers of the Democratic Party. After all, The Man is always on Trump's case and snitches are ratting him out, but he beat the rap because he dindu nuffin!

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @J.Ross

    ‘I heard today that African Americans who were polled were 38% against Trump’s impeachment…’

    They probably can’t figure out what Trump did that was wrong.

    In this, they are like the rest of us.

  256. @Daniel Chieh
    @AnotherDad

    I think going as Tiny Duck would be a bit too obvious for him to get bites, so he's shifting things around a bit.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Johann Ricke

    He’s found out the way around Ron’s protocols that keep people from using multiple aliases. Ron understands that it isn’t worth trying to make his screening system foolproof since most of us respect the rule.
    I think TD is pretty mentally limited because he seems to keep giving himself the giggles from doing the same old schtick year after year. I suggested that he broaden his act by also doing parodies of other fools like National Review style cuckservatives who otherwise never appear as commenters. I even gave him a new alias he could use, Big Cuck, but no dice.
    It’s kind of unfortunate that we don’t get much range of commenters here. Very occasionally, veins popping of the forehead leftists like Nick Diaz, or moderate liberals like Corvinus or Paleoliberal will drop in, but generally people who disagree stay away from this site.
    I think it is a combination of not wanting to contaminate themselves by reading dissident commentary, already having the megaphone so they don’t need to bother with debate and an increasing tendency to go for outright suppression of dissidence instead of debate. I guess when you have enough power the only argument you really need is “SHUT UP!”.

  257. @Bragadocious
    I always wanted to thank Canada for David Frum. He was a major figure in the run-up to Iraq. Just like I routinely thank Ireland for Samantha Power. Two cases for shutting down all immigration until we can figure out what the hell's going on.

    Replies: @utu, @Art Deco, @Dan Hayes

    Bragadocious:

    Send Samantha Power back to the new, reorganized Modern Ireland where she would fit right in as a replacement for the over-the-hill Mary Robinson.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  258. @Anonymous
    Frum is not high IQ. Smarter than Podhoretz.

    Frum's assertions are consistently dumb. Moscow as white race capital? The whitest Russians usually have significant Asian admixture. They are Eurasians, Asiatics.

    Putin's face is actually exotic by western standards. Not the face of an Englishman. His 23 and Me results would be filled with weird Turkic artifacts and maybe even some Genghis Khan remnants etc. But I'm sure Frum thinks Putin = WASP.

    Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy, @El Dato, @SunBakedSuburb, @Romanian

    Moscow has the largest Muslim population among European capitals. Putin recently inaugurated a very big mosque.

    They are a multiracial empire, not just a simple empire of multiple European ethnicities. People who make it out to be some kind of racial Camelot are deluding themselves.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Romanian

    You're correct, but you're getting sucked into the false choice. Putin proves that the alternative to globalism is not necessarily Nazism. We can have multiple ethnies and we can set rules, and that's not impossible or hypocritical or racist.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Art Deco
    @Romanian

    About 81% of the population is Great Russian. The minority population is quite fragmented with no one minority accounting for more than 4% of the population. About 15% of the population is composed of historically Muslim ethnicities. The only parts of the country where a supralocal territory has a majority derived from the minorities are portions of the Urals and the Caucasus; the Ural territories have large Russian minorities and the Caucasus territories are quite impecunious and cut up among about 8 small groups. There are countries which are more homogeneous, but the degree to which Great Russians sweep the board is adequate for maintaining an national state with passably civil politics.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Johann Ricke

    , @Cutler
    @Romanian

    Read Anatoly Karlin The myth of Moskvabad.

  259. @bigdicknick
    @Arclight

    jewish intelligence doesn't extend to self awareness. It's their achilles heel.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Billy Shears, @kikz

    as tactic, even feigned lack of self-awareness in personal responsibility/culpability is quite useful for them.

    the original psychopathic dindu mindset.
    blame others for personal bad behaviors/outcomes, play victim, rend garments/wail of persecution/demand justice/reap advantage.
    sub routine/loop of hegelianism 101.

  260. @Harry Baldwin
    @J.Ross

    I heard today that African Americans who were polled were 38% against Trump's impeachment. Trump may get a larger share of the AA vote than any Republican in living memory.

    Perhaps they relate to him better than to the Adam Schiffs and Jerry Nadlers of the Democratic Party. After all, The Man is always on Trump's case and snitches are ratting him out, but he beat the rap because he dindu nuffin!

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @J.Ross

    The entire case necessary for Kanye West is that his Hollywood Handler tried to have him committed.
    Rumor: Kim got attacked by Muslims or “refugees” in Paris a while back. It was covered up with a replacement story (hotel room robbed by infamous and novelesque Serbian jewel thieves) but it woke them up hard. The fact is that, at a basic level, the globalists have no control and no idea what they’re doing. They cannot guarantee your safety unless you are a Bilderberg VIP (witness the German minister whose daughter was refugeed in public), they cannot control their serfs, and their one idea is to keep going forward as fast as they can. And we’re the “accelerationists”!

  261. @Reg Cæsar
    @Hail


    That Frum comment (Moscow as the capital of the White race) makes no sense if not understood in the terms Steve Sailer proposes.
     
    I'm disgusted. St Petersburg has a lot more class. And charm. And history.

    Let's put our capital there.

    Replies: @Hail, @Romanian

    Rome, the Eternal City. Why have the third Rome, when you can have the first!

  262. @Romanian
    @Anonymous

    Moscow has the largest Muslim population among European capitals. Putin recently inaugurated a very big mosque.

    They are a multiracial empire, not just a simple empire of multiple European ethnicities. People who make it out to be some kind of racial Camelot are deluding themselves.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Art Deco, @Cutler

    You’re correct, but you’re getting sucked into the false choice. Putin proves that the alternative to globalism is not necessarily Nazism. We can have multiple ethnies and we can set rules, and that’s not impossible or hypocritical or racist.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @J.Ross


    We can have multiple ethnies and we can set rules,
     
    What kind of rules are you talking about?

    Replies: @J.Ross

  263. @AnotherDad
    @Sherry Khan

    Ok, i've got to give credit to the cleverness of "Sherry Khan". I'm old and slow so i didn't catch it right away, but--first rate.

    And--to be fair--there are a smattering of "Sherry Khan"s out there. Women who have defected and sold their bodies to enemy foreign men ... which in our weird clueless state allows those men entry into our nation. And the above blather is plausibly what such a woman might spew. So maybe there is some value in this.

    Still this is the 3rd or 4th of these sock puppets i've noticed in the last couple weeks that seem to be from the same source.

    All while our Tiny Duck--who was a comforting presence and occasionally hilarious--remains AWOL.

    "Sherry Khan" if you are the Duck, please give up this sockpuppetry and return to your true calling as "Tiny Duck".

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Daniel Chieh, @Anonymous, @Lot, @black sea

    These “I’m a black guy with a white wife” and “I am a white woman who only likes NAMs” trolls pretty much always turn out to be Chinese-American or Bangla/Paki incels.

    They popup in all uncensored forums eventually.

  264. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    You are never going to unscramble the omelet in America and even if you could, you wouldn't want to. The multi-ethnic pre-war capitals of E. Europe - Budapest, Prague, Vienna were cauldrons of ferment that gave forth all sorts of geniuses, Jewish and non-Jewish. It wasn't all good but a lot of it was. Their modern day mono-ethnic incarnations are deadly dull places that nothing new ever comes from, good or bad.

    Just as comparative advantage says that in international trade, you should let Italians design your shoes and Germans build your cars, the same is true within nations. Once you have reduce a nation to a monoethnicity, then no comparative advantage is possible.

    I know that this is your dream vision but it's kind of nuts. If you really want that kind of mono-ethnic state, there are places in E. Europe that are like that now but I don't think you'd really want to live in them.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @utu, @Bardon Kaldian, @AnotherDad

    Jack, i’ve read enough of your stuff, to know that your Jewish identity is deeply important to you and Jewish supremacism is critical to your world view. But seriously take a deep breath.

    You are never going to unscramble the omelet in America and even if you could, you wouldn’t want to. The multi-ethnic pre-war capitals of E. Europe – Budapest, Prague, Vienna were cauldrons of ferment that gave forth all sorts of geniuses, Jewish and non-Jewish. It wasn’t all good but a lot of it was. Their modern day mono-ethnic incarnations are deadly dull places that nothing new ever comes from, good or bad.

    — America.
    I’m not trying to “unscramble the omlet”. The high point for America was the immediate post-War period i was born into. As i’ve noted many many times the Depression and War had a consolidating effect, forging a more unitary “one people” white America. (I’m a “mixed” product of that … happy being in that omlet.) We still had the “legacy of slavery” to deal with–that’s a deep problem as anyone HBD aware is aware. But … mid-century America was pretty damn good, pretty damn productive and pretty damn nice. Unfortunately–and yes many other factors–the Jews weren’t happy because of Christmas carol alienation or some other whiny Jewish shit and as the Jews rose, they relententless attacked and have considerably “deconstructed” it.

    Our current multicultural “ferment” in contrast accomplishes nothing–as we have to pat everyone’s sensitivities on the back and and get their pronouns right. We certainly aren’t doing moon landings and to the extent we still make pretty good aircraft that is living off the ground work, the legacy of the high-trust, high-competency mid-century America.

    — Multi-ethnic, Central Europe, Jews, “ferment”
    LOL. If there’s one obvious take-home from modern European history it is how thoroughly the Jew-light, one-people nations of Britain and France beat the crap out of the tired old Jew heavy “multi-cultural” empires–Austria, Russia. Heck, even Japan coming from feudal backwardness used its competent mono-ethnicity nationalism to rapidly develop to where it put the whoop ass on Russia. Multi-cultural==fragmented==failed. It was only when the Prussians cobbled together a one-people German state that the remnants of the Holy Roman Empire were back in the game at all.

    — “Ferment”, Jews. I know this offends your Jewish supremacism but “Jewish thought” absolutely sucks. Yes, Jews are smart. They have done good work piling on top of the scientific foundation/method developed in the West. But Jewish social/political thought? Please. A disaster, that’s spawned human unhappiness and destruction beyond belief. The Anglo-Saxon thinkers have beat your guys like a drum. Better, more empirically grounded, ideas across the board–politically, socially, economically, even scientifically (especially when you start talking biology). If Jews had simply been banned from opening their mouths the world would have been clearer thinking, less violent, more propsperous, more pleasant place.

    Just as comparative advantage says that in international trade, you should let Italians design your shoes and Germans build your cars, the same is true within nations. Once you have reduce a nation to a monoethnicity, then no comparative advantage is possible.

    LOL. Seriously?

    “Comparative advantage” springs up within nations all the time because of geography–the coal is here, the iron is here, the corn grows well here, the wheat here, the Great Lakes make transport cheap here, the river makes it cheap over there–or because of social/industrial history leading to local competence, expertise, e.g. Silicon Valley.

    Actually the Italians have designed some very fine cars. But your very example debunks your point. You can have whatever “comparative advantage” is available from different ethnicities simply via international trade, without having to live with each other. That’s the whole point of “international” trade. I don’t have to actually live with a bunch of Chinese to enjoy whatever the heck it is that Chinese do well.

    Furthermore as Germany, or Italy or France or the US or Japan or Korea, it’s hardly necessary to have ethnic diversity to do quality production. You have competent people … you can build nice stuff and better yet if mono-ethnic you get to actually enjoy your productivity and prosperity without a bunch of ethnic contention.

    I know that this is your dream vision but it’s kind of nuts. If you really want that kind of mono-ethnic state, there are places in E. Europe that are like that now but I don’t think you’d really want to live in them.

    No Jack, you are nuts. I’m sorry. You come from a middle man minority and–despite being an intelligent guy–are simply incapable of viewing the world as it and insist that it really, really, must be better if it is all remade to be comfortable for Jews exploit.

    But essentially all of history debunks you. The rise of Britain debunks you. The rise of France debunks you. The crappiness/unpleasantness of Russia debunks you. The post-war pleasantness of the Nordic countries … and now their multicultural dystopias debunk you. The rise of the US–its continual struggles with the “legacy of slavery” and now it’s multicultural decline debunks you. Japan, Korea debunk you. China kicks the “comparative advantage heavy” India’s ass debunks you. Heck even Israel debunks you. The Jews–now with their own nation–are creating a very pleasant prosperous place, with the shitty part being (much like the US) the unresolved multi-ethnic issues.

    All of history stands up and says people really like living with people of the same culture and such one people marry-the-girl-next-door nations–when the people are high IQ and competent–can develop high-trust at national scale and become very, very prosperous and extremely pleasant places to live. Jack, history is a massive debunking of your Jewish middle man minority “diversity” ideology.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @AnotherDad

    I gather Hy Goldberg got that promotion you wanted.

    Replies: @Anon, @Desiderius, @Mr. Anon

    , @Lot
    @AnotherDad

    “ Our current multicultural “ferment” in contrast accomplishes nothing”

    Hmmm, maybe Vienna and Budapest of 1890s with the cream of eastern Jewry educated in German-run schools isn’t a good analogy for 2010s New America with Somalis and Salvadorian diversity.

    “ the Jew-light, one-people nations of Britain and France”

    Not so Jew-light they didn’t both elect them leaders (Disraeli and Blum). And another PM was married to one (Rosebury).

    Per capita the Dutch were at or above the French and English, and were also the most Jewish part of Western Europe. As I recall Jews were above 15% of Amsterdam in its golden age.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Vel%C3%A1zquez_-_de_Breda_o_Las_Lanzas_%28Museo_del_Prado%2C_1634-35%29.jpg/1244px-Vel%C3%A1zquez_-_de_Breda_o_Las_Lanzas_%28Museo_del_Prado%2C_1634-35%29.jpg

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    , @AnotherDad
    @AnotherDad

    I'll throw on top of this that there is no pleasant multi-cultural or multi-ethnic steady state.

    I don't have a good feel for early 20th century Central Europe--Jack's example. But clearly one part of what was going on with the Jews was that some numbers of them had liberalized--were giving up their age old tribalism and becoming members of their local nations. And as they become members of their nation--become "Austrian" instead "Jewish"--then we start to see intermarriage and some numbers of half-Jews, quarter-Jews etc.

    Likewise if America could get its act together and actual stop immigration, we'd start to see some healing. Obviously a lot of damage has been done, but with an actual immigration stop, people would start to be more "American". In 100 years we'd have a upper-middle class that's mostly white but mixed with a good dollop of fancy Asian and Jewish. A middle class that is similar but a little more Hispanic. A working class that is a mixture of white and Latino with a bit of black. And we'd still have black underclass problem. As Steve has noted, it would be more along the lines of a Latin American "color continum" compared to our old color line. It wouldn't be--can't be--1960 again, but intermarriage would be pushing us back toward being a "one people" nation ... with a black problem.

    But that's the key point. Either:

    -- Various ethnic groups are more or less able to get along ... in which case mixing drives you toward being some sort of "one people"

    or

    -- There are hard barriers to mixing--like Jewish religious tribalism/endogamy did for 1000 years--which can not be maintained unless people have a strong identity of separatness or superiority and means relations are *un*pleasant.


    Any claimed happy multicultural state is actually--by mathematical necessity--a transition state back toward a much more stable one-people nation. And a nation is fortunate--lucky--to be able to carry off such a transition peacefully. Often deviations from one-peopleness generate a lot of "unpleasantness".

    , @Mr. Anon
    @AnotherDad

    You angered Art Deco. Be careful.............he might revoke your library card.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @gsjackson
    @AnotherDad

    Agreed. For the past 11 years I've spent as much time as I can afford to in Romania, Serbia, the Czech Republic and Poland, and would live over there full-time if I could. Just for the sheer joy of living in a coherent, unified culture. And I'm old enough to remember when the U.S. had one of those in the first 20 years post-WWII. Anyone born before, say, 1965 and with a shred of memory left knows how superior the quality of life was then.

  265. @Romanian
    @Anonymous

    Moscow has the largest Muslim population among European capitals. Putin recently inaugurated a very big mosque.

    They are a multiracial empire, not just a simple empire of multiple European ethnicities. People who make it out to be some kind of racial Camelot are deluding themselves.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Art Deco, @Cutler

    About 81% of the population is Great Russian. The minority population is quite fragmented with no one minority accounting for more than 4% of the population. About 15% of the population is composed of historically Muslim ethnicities. The only parts of the country where a supralocal territory has a majority derived from the minorities are portions of the Urals and the Caucasus; the Ural territories have large Russian minorities and the Caucasus territories are quite impecunious and cut up among about 8 small groups. There are countries which are more homogeneous, but the degree to which Great Russians sweep the board is adequate for maintaining an national state with passably civil politics.

    • Agree: Romanian
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Art Deco


    About 81% of the population is Great Russian. The minority population is quite fragmented with no one minority accounting for more than 4% of the population...


    the degree to which Great Russians sweep the board is adequate for maintaining an national state with passably civil politics.
     
    Sounds like Minnesota. They're too diverse to gang up on the majority.
    , @Johann Ricke
    @Art Deco


    About 15% of the population is composed of historically Muslim ethnicities.
     
    Wikipedia says that based on 2010 census data, that number is ~11%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia#Religion

    Replies: @Cutler

  266. @anon
    "Frum seems to have gone into this deranged rage over Trump"

    David Frum is an ethnocentric bigot like all members of his group. He's deranged over Trump because he, like the rest of his group, sees him as the champion of "the other". He loved Bush because Bush was a liar who gave his clan what they wanted - war on Israel's enemies - without actually caring anything for his base; it was just lip service and they knew it. On the other hand, Trump, although pro-Israel, is seen by the Frums of the world as being serious with the pro-America First sentiment, so their bigotry and paranoia go into overdrive.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Dissident

    David Frum is an ethnocentric bigot like all members of his group. He’s deranged over Trump because he, like the rest of his group, sees him as the champion of “the other”.

    What did you mean by “his group”? Jews, per se? If so, how do you account for the very high intermarriage and assimilation rates among Jews? If current demographic trends continue, it won’t be that long before the only Jews left are the Orthodox.

    Additionally, I note:
    – A significant minority of Jews support President Trump. Among the Orthodox, perhaps even a majority.

    – As an Orthodox Jew, I am obviously religio-centric* (However, in addition to being anti-Zionist (as nearly all Torah-observant Jews originally were and many still are), I also oppose what our host has dubbed Invade the World/ Invite the World/ In Hock to the World policies, and the attacks on Whites and decency that are regularly called-out on these pages.

    *As opposed to “ethnocentric”, which I’m not sure would be accurate in my case, given that “Jewishness” minus Judaism is utterly worthless to me. I don’t even believe there can be any inherent Jewish identity or characteristic minus Judaism.

    • Replies: @utu
    @Dissident


    If so, how do you account for the very high intermarriage and assimilation rates among Jews?
     
    David From wife converted to Judaism so presumable their children are Jewish. Amy "Tiger Mom" Chua's children are raised Jewish.

    Replies: @Dissident

    , @ben tillman
    @Dissident


    What did you mean by “his group”? Jews, per se? If so, how do you account for the very high intermarriage and assimilation rates among Jews?
     
    They aren't high, that's how. Israel is full of endogamous Jews.
  267. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D

    Jack, i've read enough of your stuff, to know that your Jewish identity is deeply important to you and Jewish supremacism is critical to your world view. But seriously take a deep breath.


    You are never going to unscramble the omelet in America and even if you could, you wouldn’t want to. The multi-ethnic pre-war capitals of E. Europe – Budapest, Prague, Vienna were cauldrons of ferment that gave forth all sorts of geniuses, Jewish and non-Jewish. It wasn’t all good but a lot of it was. Their modern day mono-ethnic incarnations are deadly dull places that nothing new ever comes from, good or bad.
     
    -- America.
    I'm not trying to "unscramble the omlet". The high point for America was the immediate post-War period i was born into. As i've noted many many times the Depression and War had a consolidating effect, forging a more unitary "one people" white America. (I'm a "mixed" product of that ... happy being in that omlet.) We still had the "legacy of slavery" to deal with--that's a deep problem as anyone HBD aware is aware. But ... mid-century America was pretty damn good, pretty damn productive and pretty damn nice. Unfortunately--and yes many other factors--the Jews weren't happy because of Christmas carol alienation or some other whiny Jewish shit and as the Jews rose, they relententless attacked and have considerably "deconstructed" it.

    Our current multicultural "ferment" in contrast accomplishes nothing--as we have to pat everyone's sensitivities on the back and and get their pronouns right. We certainly aren't doing moon landings and to the extent we still make pretty good aircraft that is living off the ground work, the legacy of the high-trust, high-competency mid-century America.

    -- Multi-ethnic, Central Europe, Jews, "ferment"
    LOL. If there's one obvious take-home from modern European history it is how thoroughly the Jew-light, one-people nations of Britain and France beat the crap out of the tired old Jew heavy "multi-cultural" empires--Austria, Russia. Heck, even Japan coming from feudal backwardness used its competent mono-ethnicity nationalism to rapidly develop to where it put the whoop ass on Russia. Multi-cultural==fragmented==failed. It was only when the Prussians cobbled together a one-people German state that the remnants of the Holy Roman Empire were back in the game at all.

    -- "Ferment", Jews. I know this offends your Jewish supremacism but "Jewish thought" absolutely sucks. Yes, Jews are smart. They have done good work piling on top of the scientific foundation/method developed in the West. But Jewish social/political thought? Please. A disaster, that's spawned human unhappiness and destruction beyond belief. The Anglo-Saxon thinkers have beat your guys like a drum. Better, more empirically grounded, ideas across the board--politically, socially, economically, even scientifically (especially when you start talking biology). If Jews had simply been banned from opening their mouths the world would have been clearer thinking, less violent, more propsperous, more pleasant place.


    Just as comparative advantage says that in international trade, you should let Italians design your shoes and Germans build your cars, the same is true within nations. Once you have reduce a nation to a monoethnicity, then no comparative advantage is possible.
     
    LOL. Seriously?

    "Comparative advantage" springs up within nations all the time because of geography--the coal is here, the iron is here, the corn grows well here, the wheat here, the Great Lakes make transport cheap here, the river makes it cheap over there--or because of social/industrial history leading to local competence, expertise, e.g. Silicon Valley.

    Actually the Italians have designed some very fine cars. But your very example debunks your point. You can have whatever "comparative advantage" is available from different ethnicities simply via international trade, without having to live with each other. That's the whole point of "international" trade. I don't have to actually live with a bunch of Chinese to enjoy whatever the heck it is that Chinese do well.

    Furthermore as Germany, or Italy or France or the US or Japan or Korea, it's hardly necessary to have ethnic diversity to do quality production. You have competent people ... you can build nice stuff and better yet if mono-ethnic you get to actually enjoy your productivity and prosperity without a bunch of ethnic contention.


    I know that this is your dream vision but it’s kind of nuts. If you really want that kind of mono-ethnic state, there are places in E. Europe that are like that now but I don’t think you’d really want to live in them.
     
    No Jack, you are nuts. I'm sorry. You come from a middle man minority and--despite being an intelligent guy--are simply incapable of viewing the world as it and insist that it really, really, must be better if it is all remade to be comfortable for Jews exploit.

    But essentially all of history debunks you. The rise of Britain debunks you. The rise of France debunks you. The crappiness/unpleasantness of Russia debunks you. The post-war pleasantness of the Nordic countries ... and now their multicultural dystopias debunk you. The rise of the US--its continual struggles with the "legacy of slavery" and now it's multicultural decline debunks you. Japan, Korea debunk you. China kicks the "comparative advantage heavy" India's ass debunks you. Heck even Israel debunks you. The Jews--now with their own nation--are creating a very pleasant prosperous place, with the shitty part being (much like the US) the unresolved multi-ethnic issues.

    All of history stands up and says people really like living with people of the same culture and such one people marry-the-girl-next-door nations--when the people are high IQ and competent--can develop high-trust at national scale and become very, very prosperous and extremely pleasant places to live. Jack, history is a massive debunking of your Jewish middle man minority "diversity" ideology.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Lot, @AnotherDad, @Mr. Anon, @gsjackson

    I gather Hy Goldberg got that promotion you wanted.

    • LOL: Jack D
    • Replies: @Anon
    @Art Deco

    Wow, what a substantive reply. I am shocked by your brilliance. Michel Issa beat you at the neighborhood poker game?

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @Desiderius
    @Art Deco

    Nah, he and his just created millions of HR harridans that have screwed us both.

    Replies: @SFG

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Art Deco


    I gather Hy Goldberg got that promotion you wanted.
     
    No, but he seems to have gotten the one you wanted, and you are fine with being his shoe-shine boy.

    Nitwit.
  268. @Dissident
    @Art Deco

    The Wikipedia entry quoted by comment-poster "Moses" on the etymology of shiksa is correct. The term is the feminine equivalent of sheigetz. Both terms are, as per their literal definition, inherently highly pejorative and dehumanizing. I will not deny that there are Jews who knowingly use them that way. But, from my experience at least, there would also appear to be many Jews who use the terms shiksa and sheigetz in complete ignorance of their actual meaning, innocently thinking that such terms are merely synonyms for gentile or non-Jew*. Additionally, as a Jew myself, I am able to report from firsthand experience that even among Jews who do know the literal meaning of sheigetz/shiksa, the terms are widely used merely as synonyms for gentile or non-Jew, with no malice or deliberate intent to insult.

    Personally, I refrain from using either shiksa or shegeitz as generic terms for non-Jews.

    *As goy truly is, oft-repeated charges to the contrary notwithstanding. Goy literally means nation, and when used in common parlance to refer to non-Jews is equivalent-to and no more pejorative than the English gentile.


    It was a banal and mildly derisive term applied (by a skeptical grandmother) to my sister, among others.
     
    Such usage would possibly appear to be supported by extrapolating from how my copy of Harduf's Transliterated English-Yiddish/Yiddish-English Dictionary translates "sheigets": as "impudent boy". The same reference work translates "shikse" merely as "gentile girl". This would apparently support the observations I made above about these words being widely used innocently.

    I do not have access at the moment to the far more complete, comprehensive and authoritative reference work by the renowned late Yiddishist Uriel Weinreich. Perhaps one of our resident Yiddishists could help out here.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    Both terms are, as per their literal definition, inherently highly pejorative and dehumanizing.

    Nobody’d gotten the memo in the suburban township we were living in in 1978.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Art Deco

    So it's like "mother----er" or "ni--er" or "cra--er" then for a certain demographic?

    Or like "wog" for a different demographic?

    "Bu--er"?

    Not like "heretic" or "idolater", those are straight descriptions.

  269. @Sherry Khan
    @Gaius Gracchus

    I am an American and so are my husband and Children.
    Who on this earth are you to tell me about where I should move?
    Racist and Disgusting what you just said

    Replies: @SFG, @ThreeCranes, @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @William Badwhite, @OilcanFloyd, @J.Ross, @Gaius Gracchus, @Daniel Chieh, @Kylie, @Joe Schmoe

    No, you and your husband and children are not Americans any more than a Protestant woman who enters a convent and puts on a habit is a Catholic nun.

    You may be American residents, even American citizens. But that is because our government is using you to wage war on us, the real Americans. You don’t have the faintest understanding of what it means to be an American. And you never will.

    You all belong in Norway or Sweden, not here. The sooner you leave, the better.

    And no, I don’t say this because your husband is Pakistani. Recently, I joined thousands of others in welcoming an Indian couple who just became American citizens and, because they did their research, switched from supporting the Dems to being pro-Trump. They are as American as I am. You are not nor will ever be.

  270. @Anon
    There a hilarious ethnic food dustup on Twitter now. BBC and WaPo have articles on it. Professor tweets that Indian food is horrible, gets called a racist, and is dotsplained how restaurant Indian food isn't Indian food to begin with. Then another professor tweets that Chinese food is sloppy, salty crap ...

    I'm waiting for statements from the University presidents to be released. Maybe WE DEMAND manifestos from a student "coalition." Demands for their firing. Or at least prevented from teaching required classes ...

    Replies: @Haruto Rat, @SunBakedSuburb, @Kolya Krassotkin

    “Dotsplained” – 😅 I’m stealing that.

    Although I like the flavors well enough, most Indian food is kind of gross. Traditionally it’s heavily spiced to hide the smell of putrefaction and to kill any contaminating microorganisms, which thrive in India’s warm, moist environment. Things are chopped and mixed together to hide the ingredients’ blemishes.

  271. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    Long live the Palestinians
     
    This one will live long, at our expense:


    http://www.ocalapost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Fort-Hood.jpg

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Not Raul

    That traitor is a Saudi asset.

  272. @El Dato

    "The multiracial American nation and its Capital in Washington"

     

    The ancients actually believed the soul was situated in the heart.

    The tweeting, modern "intelligentsia" with a bad case of office gangrène actually believe the soul is situated in the swamp.

    Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin

    “The ancients actually believed the soul was situated in the heart.”

    And if they’d met Frum, they would have concluded that his brains were in his ass.

  273. @El Dato
    @Art Deco

    I think Israel is grown-up enough that they can do their genocide all on their lonesome and not constantly run around crying like little mentally distressed bitches that someone "forces them" to do this-and-that and blow kid's brains out and flatten thrice-reconstructed villages and engineer destruction of whole countries via the Gimp's armed forces etc. etc. etc.

    Just place an order at BASF, for Jehovah's sake. The german govnm't may even give everything away cheap for "reparations".

    Yeah. I know it's all about cooking the frog until everything from the Golan Heights to the Gaza strip has been "assimilated" properly, but ... come on!

    Replies: @Not Raul, @Jane Plain, @nebulafox

    If they placed an order at BASF, German taxpayers would pay for it, just like with the submarines.

  274. @Dissident
    @anon


    David Frum is an ethnocentric bigot like all members of his group. He’s deranged over Trump because he, like the rest of his group, sees him as the champion of “the other”.
     
    What did you mean by "his group"? Jews, per se? If so, how do you account for the very high intermarriage and assimilation rates among Jews? If current demographic trends continue, it won't be that long before the only Jews left are the Orthodox.

    Additionally, I note:
    - A significant minority of Jews support President Trump. Among the Orthodox, perhaps even a majority.

    - As an Orthodox Jew, I am obviously religio-centric* (However, in addition to being anti-Zionist (as nearly all Torah-observant Jews originally were and many still are), I also oppose what our host has dubbed Invade the World/ Invite the World/ In Hock to the World policies, and the attacks on Whites and decency that are regularly called-out on these pages.

    *As opposed to "ethnocentric", which I'm not sure would be accurate in my case, given that "Jewishness" minus Judaism is utterly worthless to me. I don't even believe there can be any inherent Jewish identity or characteristic minus Judaism.

    Replies: @utu, @ben tillman

    If so, how do you account for the very high intermarriage and assimilation rates among Jews?

    David From wife converted to Judaism so presumable their children are Jewish. Amy “Tiger Mom” Chua’s children are raised Jewish.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @utu


    David From wife converted to Judaism so presumable their children are Jewish. Amy “Tiger Mom” Chua’s children are raised Jewish.
     
    https://media.aish.com/documents/will+your+grandchildren+be+jewish-revisited.pdf

    https://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/WillYourGrandchildrenBeJews/

    In the first iteration of our article, we concluded that short of a major change in the choices made with respect to their commitment to Judaism, the vast majority of American Jews between the ages of 18-29 will not have Jewish descendants within the next three decades. [Emphasis mine- Dis.] The conspicuous exception to this trend is American Jews or their descendants who identify themselves as being Orthodox. In this updated version of our article, we have utilized a similar format to its namesake published after the culmination of the NJPS 2000-2001.
     
    Requisite disclaimer: Citing, linking-to or quoting ≠ endorsing. I specifically disavow the Zionism found on the sites I linked above.
  275. @Art Deco
    @Romanian

    About 81% of the population is Great Russian. The minority population is quite fragmented with no one minority accounting for more than 4% of the population. About 15% of the population is composed of historically Muslim ethnicities. The only parts of the country where a supralocal territory has a majority derived from the minorities are portions of the Urals and the Caucasus; the Ural territories have large Russian minorities and the Caucasus territories are quite impecunious and cut up among about 8 small groups. There are countries which are more homogeneous, but the degree to which Great Russians sweep the board is adequate for maintaining an national state with passably civil politics.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Johann Ricke

    About 81% of the population is Great Russian. The minority population is quite fragmented with no one minority accounting for more than 4% of the population…

    the degree to which Great Russians sweep the board is adequate for maintaining an national state with passably civil politics.

    Sounds like Minnesota. They’re too diverse to gang up on the majority.

  276. @Daniel Chieh
    @AnotherDad

    I think going as Tiny Duck would be a bit too obvious for him to get bites, so he's shifting things around a bit.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Johann Ricke

    Re constraints on Chinese territorial expansion, here’s an insightful essay on the pressures facing reigning emperors. It describes the role of the provincial military governors (aka jiedushi) of the Tang dynasty during its fairly long tenure:

    Jiedushi for most of times were the scapegoats for the army. It was the army who was, as the historians described, arrogant and indulged.

    This is a big topic and you can review my previous answers on the Tang Dynasty to get more details.

    In short, the Tang army since the mid period was quite similar with the Roman Empire’s legions after the Marius reform. The army were made by the professional full time soldiers rather than duty fullfilling citizens or farmers. The payment for the soldiers were so high such that they had no motivation to go back or retire to work. Any attempt to cut down the payment, their number or to mistreat them slightly will lead to their rebellion and hijacking the Jiedushi to rebel against the Emperor or to maintain isolation in the military zone known as fanzheng. If the jiefushi refused, the soldiers can easily murder him and put someone else on the top and continue until the jiedushi agreed. This formed a bad circle because to afford the spending of the elite soldiers, the government needed to increase the tax on normal people, which would further to encourage many people to serve in the army and to discourage them from leaving.

    What’s more due to the massive expansion of the Tang Dynasty, many regions on the rim of the Empire remained under developed such that the central government couldn’t control directly. To deal with it, the Emperor had to let go of the power to the military zones for “autonomy” to deal with the “barbarians” such as Tibetan, Turks, Khitan, Nanzhao.

    Also, a large percent of barbarians served in the army so that the army became highly mixed and hence furthered disorganized.

    For these reasons, Jiedushi, Emperor and the eunuch class, bureaucrats for most of times since the mid period were actually working together to contain these soldiers. And these soldiers also contributed to the Tang Dynasty instead in term of fighting barbarians. So it’s not just simply black or white or positive and negative. The soldiers apparently had more contributions than negative influences to the Tang.

    What made Tang fall wasn’t anshi rebellion because Tang retained strong for another 100 years. What destroyed Tang was the Huang Chao rebellion from peasants. The military zones were mostly consumed and the eunuch class was butchered. The imperial court totally “lost face” to the soldiers such that many of they no longer loyal to the Tang Dynasty. This created the earth for the new generation of jiedushi (jiedushi 2.0) who were also no longer loyal to the Empire and anybody but themselves. Similarly, as the new “Emperors”, these 2.0 jiedushi were also betrayed one by one after each other.

    This struggle continued and escalated in the following “five dynasties and ten kingdoms” period as the general politics became normal: once the previous emperor died, a general would suddenly self claim to be the Emperor or to be “advocated” by his army to be the Emperor. If he didn’t agree to rebel, his army would murder him and pick someone else to name as Emperor. The cause was still the same. Soldiers wanna make money by raiding the cities and getting the reward for fighting, and they had zero control from the authority due to the fall of the Tang Dynasty.

    Eventually this problem was solved by the Song Dynasty in which the elite army was forced to withdraw from the military zones but back to the regions near capital under the direct control of the central government, and the economic reform encouraged them to go back to work as farmers.

    What was more the bureaucratic management was imposed to divide the power from generals by bureaucrats. The economic development in the Song period increased the government control on many regions due to the increase of tax income and population such that the need for military zones was decreased.

    And lots of arrogant and indulged elite units also suffered a tremendous population reduction after the chaotic period of the late Tang and five dynasties and ten kingdoms. For instance, the late Tang Emperor, who was “advocated” as the new Emperor by the army that rebelled against his brother as the previous Emperor, massacred the entire unit and its families (around 20,000) after he secured the power. These “natural selection”, “invisible hand” on “bad apples” also made the stabilization of army later on possible.

    But these reforms also lowered the fighting power of army such that we observed the weak military performance by the Song army and the rise of Mongols. So nothing was perfect back then. You either had a strong army who may rebel or a weak army who was loyal.

    Thanks to subordinates who had their eye on their own kingdoms or the imperial throne itself, Chinese emperors were always scrambling either to keep the existing empire together or to keep their heads. When they felt secure in their domestic holdings, they embarked on foreign military expeditions. But the danger from within was always in the back of their minds.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Johann Ricke

    Did the Chinese have as many Emperors die violently as the Romans?

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh

    , @Daniel Chieh
    @Johann Ricke

    Where was the essay originally from? Anyway, the issues of a strong military ultimately ignoring the state is a very common story - essentially a version of that happened with the formation of feudalism, thus "counts" which were originally just appointed by Charlemagne. Issues of communication and local power allowed the counts to insist on hereditary power; incidentally, this happened during the reign of Henry the VI too, when he lost his mind, his lords proceeded to resolve their differences in warfare instead.

    I've written more extensively about this elsewhere, actually, and should perhaps put out a blog with essays, but it has always been an historical issue where significant resources dedicated to the military self-perpetuates itself until the military essentially dictates the government. Such governance often leads to warfare as the military also needs to maintain its raison d'entre.

    The Song, of course, went the opposite extreme and would suffer for it as well. The entire Confucianist project, to a meaningful extent, was to denounce the career of a soldier and to those who genuinely subscribed to it, it could lead to a startlingly weak military as could be seen in the Joseon army. The Chinese, while originators of Confucianism, always seemed to only half-abide by its concepts: sufficient enough that militarism was always seen as something a bit dirty, but the Ming was fighting, on average, 1.2 wars per year.

    At any rate, the thing to note is that between the Tang and by intervention by the Imjin, it was almost a full one thousand years and the Koreans had considered themselves the favored sons of the tributary system. China by and large did not indulge in expansionist projects, as it in terms of power and influence, it was logical to expand power through centralization.

    Ultimately, warfare is for wealth, power, and prestige(and for whom). Ever since the Tang, China has never really had rampaging generals capable of starting entire wars to drag the nation in - something which Japan, incidentally, did suffer from.

    Replies: @Jack D

  277. David Frum? I turned by back on him sixteen years ago.

    • Replies: @I, Libertine
    @I, Libertine

    *my

  278. @Dissident
    @Art Deco

    The Wikipedia entry quoted by comment-poster "Moses" on the etymology of shiksa is correct. The term is the feminine equivalent of sheigetz. Both terms are, as per their literal definition, inherently highly pejorative and dehumanizing. I will not deny that there are Jews who knowingly use them that way. But, from my experience at least, there would also appear to be many Jews who use the terms shiksa and sheigetz in complete ignorance of their actual meaning, innocently thinking that such terms are merely synonyms for gentile or non-Jew*. Additionally, as a Jew myself, I am able to report from firsthand experience that even among Jews who do know the literal meaning of sheigetz/shiksa, the terms are widely used merely as synonyms for gentile or non-Jew, with no malice or deliberate intent to insult.

    Personally, I refrain from using either shiksa or shegeitz as generic terms for non-Jews.

    *As goy truly is, oft-repeated charges to the contrary notwithstanding. Goy literally means nation, and when used in common parlance to refer to non-Jews is equivalent-to and no more pejorative than the English gentile.


    It was a banal and mildly derisive term applied (by a skeptical grandmother) to my sister, among others.
     
    Such usage would possibly appear to be supported by extrapolating from how my copy of Harduf's Transliterated English-Yiddish/Yiddish-English Dictionary translates "sheigets": as "impudent boy". The same reference work translates "shikse" merely as "gentile girl". This would apparently support the observations I made above about these words being widely used innocently.

    I do not have access at the moment to the far more complete, comprehensive and authoritative reference work by the renowned late Yiddishist Uriel Weinreich. Perhaps one of our resident Yiddishists could help out here.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    Goy literally means nation, and when used in common parlance to refer to non-Jews is equivalent-to and no more pejorative than the English gentile.

    Actually, gentile is far more offensive than goy. Same with anglo and gringo.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar


    Actually, gentile is far more offensive than goy. Same with anglo and gringo.
     
    Why?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Kylie
    @Reg Cæsar

    And let's not forget before "Becky" and "Karen" were used as snide ways to refer to white women, there was "Miss Ann", used, if I remember aright, exclusively by blacks. Now, of course, woke whites have jumped on the Karen/Becky bandwagon.

  279. @Sherry Khan
    @Athletic and Whitesplosive

    You can't do anything.
    We are here to stay and don't forget you and your progeny will be and should be persecuted and dispossessed for behaving like this.
    Trump will lose so badly that it will send a shiver down the spine of you and your Nazi colleagues.
    It's payback time.
    Let's see who wins: Trashy Whites like you who behave like bigots or progressives like me who embrace multiculturalism.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Johann Ricke, @Ozymandias, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

    We are here to stay and don’t forget you and your progeny will be and should be persecuted and dispossessed for behaving like this.

    In other words, you’ve basically expressed the views that you would have in your home country, in response to an unwelcome influx of outsiders, except you’re expressing them in someone else’s. Bravo.

  280. @Prof. Woland
    @Colin Wright

    I have no doubt that one of the main reasons Russia is enemy #1 on the left in this country is that they are white. Due to the extreme diversity in their coalition, the main thing that unites them is what they are against not what they are for. And the more diverse they become, the more unstable their coalition.

    Their constant need for demagoguery to glue themselves together feeds into all aspects including foreign policy. China is much more threatening and amoral but they are non-white. Same for Islam. But they way it works on the left, this cannot be noticed which places even more focus on Putin. In a sense, they are not even a proxy like assault weapons or the flag. They are the real deal; white, blue eyed, and blond.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland, @Colin Wright, @Kolya Krassotkin

    The lefties and the neocons (same thing?) still hate Russia for Stalin handing their grandaddies their Trotskyite asses 90 years ago.

    • Agree: Poco
  281. @Art Deco
    @Romanian

    About 81% of the population is Great Russian. The minority population is quite fragmented with no one minority accounting for more than 4% of the population. About 15% of the population is composed of historically Muslim ethnicities. The only parts of the country where a supralocal territory has a majority derived from the minorities are portions of the Urals and the Caucasus; the Ural territories have large Russian minorities and the Caucasus territories are quite impecunious and cut up among about 8 small groups. There are countries which are more homogeneous, but the degree to which Great Russians sweep the board is adequate for maintaining an national state with passably civil politics.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Johann Ricke

    About 15% of the population is composed of historically Muslim ethnicities.

    Wikipedia says that based on 2010 census data, that number is ~11%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia#Religion

    • Replies: @Cutler
    @Johann Ricke

    If you read Russian or have a handy translator see the 2015 RF micro census or Seva Bashirov demography blogs, They are superb and talk about current RF stats.

  282. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Sherry Khan

    When Team White withdraws into its rural Oranias and Team Brown controls everywhere else, Sikhs and Han will sneer and spit at your mixed-race children. "How could their mother have married a Paki," they will laugh to themselves.

    Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker, @Corvinus

    “When Team White withdraws into its rural Oranias and Team Brown controls everywhere else…”

    Who is this “Team White” and “Team Brown”?

    “Sikhs and Han will sneer and spit at your mixed-race children. “How could their mother have married a Paki,” they will laugh to themselves.”

    Maybe. Then again, probably not.

  283. @ThreeCranes
    O/T

    Don't know if you have seen the commercial on TV in which a twenties something person stands front face to the screen. Anyway, going by the face, it seems to be a young man but the hips are pear-shaped like a woman's. Xe is as flat chested as a typical male but the groin area is flat as a woman's. There's no bulge down there and the center seam of xizes jeans conforms to the body of a woman.

    Trannies (or ambiguies) have now gone mainscreen.

    Xi reminded me of the pharaoh Akhenaton (yeah, that's a dude).

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/La_salle_dAkhenaton_%281356-1340_av_J.C.%29_%28Musée_du_Caire%29_%282076972086%29.jpg

    Replies: @Ozymandias

    It has been proposed that Akhenaten had Marfan Syndrome.

  284. @MikeatMikedotMike
    "Supermarket in Valley Village, CA, he could see how all sorts of people who are some fraction of both sides in this conflict inside David’s head. "

    Who knew the antithesis of "diversity + proximity = conflict" was the ethnic food aisle at trendy grocery stores???

    https://youtu.be/JmzuRXLzqKk

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Jon’s is not trendy. It looks suspiciously like an off-brand version of the VONS chain. According to legend Jon’s was there first and gradually morphed into a VONS knockoff, or that’s the evolutionary biology explanation anyway.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    That's why my nonagenarian dad liked to shop at Jons supermarket. It looked like a 1965 supermarket whereas, say, the newish Ralph's grocery store on Ventura looks like a 2-story Apple Store with a cart escalator.

  285. @El Dato
    @eah

    Stalinesque!

    How can the county school board even hold two votes on the same question in quick succession? Did someone have kompromat on the "one Democratic member who had voted 'No' until xe voted 'Yes'"?


    Marybeth Steil, a county resident and lawyer, told the DCNF, “I thought I was a Democrat before the August 22 release of the plan, but this totally alienated me. Lots of my neighbors have told me the same. They awoke a bear for sure.”
     
    Gotta call in the Bear Cavalry on this one.

    Replies: @Ed

    They’ll probably vote Democrat, they’ll just move.

  286. @Sherry Khan
    @Athletic and Whitesplosive

    You can't do anything.
    We are here to stay and don't forget you and your progeny will be and should be persecuted and dispossessed for behaving like this.
    Trump will lose so badly that it will send a shiver down the spine of you and your Nazi colleagues.
    It's payback time.
    Let's see who wins: Trashy Whites like you who behave like bigots or progressives like me who embrace multiculturalism.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Johann Ricke, @Ozymandias, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

    “Let’s see who wins: Trashy Whites like you who behave like bigots or progressives like me who embrace multiculturalism.”

    So, when you’ve bred your race out of existence, you’ll declare victory? I hope that every one of your relatives are just as enlightened as you are.

  287. ELECTORAL INTERFERENCE!

  288. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D

    Jack, i've read enough of your stuff, to know that your Jewish identity is deeply important to you and Jewish supremacism is critical to your world view. But seriously take a deep breath.


    You are never going to unscramble the omelet in America and even if you could, you wouldn’t want to. The multi-ethnic pre-war capitals of E. Europe – Budapest, Prague, Vienna were cauldrons of ferment that gave forth all sorts of geniuses, Jewish and non-Jewish. It wasn’t all good but a lot of it was. Their modern day mono-ethnic incarnations are deadly dull places that nothing new ever comes from, good or bad.
     
    -- America.
    I'm not trying to "unscramble the omlet". The high point for America was the immediate post-War period i was born into. As i've noted many many times the Depression and War had a consolidating effect, forging a more unitary "one people" white America. (I'm a "mixed" product of that ... happy being in that omlet.) We still had the "legacy of slavery" to deal with--that's a deep problem as anyone HBD aware is aware. But ... mid-century America was pretty damn good, pretty damn productive and pretty damn nice. Unfortunately--and yes many other factors--the Jews weren't happy because of Christmas carol alienation or some other whiny Jewish shit and as the Jews rose, they relententless attacked and have considerably "deconstructed" it.

    Our current multicultural "ferment" in contrast accomplishes nothing--as we have to pat everyone's sensitivities on the back and and get their pronouns right. We certainly aren't doing moon landings and to the extent we still make pretty good aircraft that is living off the ground work, the legacy of the high-trust, high-competency mid-century America.

    -- Multi-ethnic, Central Europe, Jews, "ferment"
    LOL. If there's one obvious take-home from modern European history it is how thoroughly the Jew-light, one-people nations of Britain and France beat the crap out of the tired old Jew heavy "multi-cultural" empires--Austria, Russia. Heck, even Japan coming from feudal backwardness used its competent mono-ethnicity nationalism to rapidly develop to where it put the whoop ass on Russia. Multi-cultural==fragmented==failed. It was only when the Prussians cobbled together a one-people German state that the remnants of the Holy Roman Empire were back in the game at all.

    -- "Ferment", Jews. I know this offends your Jewish supremacism but "Jewish thought" absolutely sucks. Yes, Jews are smart. They have done good work piling on top of the scientific foundation/method developed in the West. But Jewish social/political thought? Please. A disaster, that's spawned human unhappiness and destruction beyond belief. The Anglo-Saxon thinkers have beat your guys like a drum. Better, more empirically grounded, ideas across the board--politically, socially, economically, even scientifically (especially when you start talking biology). If Jews had simply been banned from opening their mouths the world would have been clearer thinking, less violent, more propsperous, more pleasant place.


    Just as comparative advantage says that in international trade, you should let Italians design your shoes and Germans build your cars, the same is true within nations. Once you have reduce a nation to a monoethnicity, then no comparative advantage is possible.
     
    LOL. Seriously?

    "Comparative advantage" springs up within nations all the time because of geography--the coal is here, the iron is here, the corn grows well here, the wheat here, the Great Lakes make transport cheap here, the river makes it cheap over there--or because of social/industrial history leading to local competence, expertise, e.g. Silicon Valley.

    Actually the Italians have designed some very fine cars. But your very example debunks your point. You can have whatever "comparative advantage" is available from different ethnicities simply via international trade, without having to live with each other. That's the whole point of "international" trade. I don't have to actually live with a bunch of Chinese to enjoy whatever the heck it is that Chinese do well.

    Furthermore as Germany, or Italy or France or the US or Japan or Korea, it's hardly necessary to have ethnic diversity to do quality production. You have competent people ... you can build nice stuff and better yet if mono-ethnic you get to actually enjoy your productivity and prosperity without a bunch of ethnic contention.


    I know that this is your dream vision but it’s kind of nuts. If you really want that kind of mono-ethnic state, there are places in E. Europe that are like that now but I don’t think you’d really want to live in them.
     
    No Jack, you are nuts. I'm sorry. You come from a middle man minority and--despite being an intelligent guy--are simply incapable of viewing the world as it and insist that it really, really, must be better if it is all remade to be comfortable for Jews exploit.

    But essentially all of history debunks you. The rise of Britain debunks you. The rise of France debunks you. The crappiness/unpleasantness of Russia debunks you. The post-war pleasantness of the Nordic countries ... and now their multicultural dystopias debunk you. The rise of the US--its continual struggles with the "legacy of slavery" and now it's multicultural decline debunks you. Japan, Korea debunk you. China kicks the "comparative advantage heavy" India's ass debunks you. Heck even Israel debunks you. The Jews--now with their own nation--are creating a very pleasant prosperous place, with the shitty part being (much like the US) the unresolved multi-ethnic issues.

    All of history stands up and says people really like living with people of the same culture and such one people marry-the-girl-next-door nations--when the people are high IQ and competent--can develop high-trust at national scale and become very, very prosperous and extremely pleasant places to live. Jack, history is a massive debunking of your Jewish middle man minority "diversity" ideology.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Lot, @AnotherDad, @Mr. Anon, @gsjackson

    “ Our current multicultural “ferment” in contrast accomplishes nothing”

    Hmmm, maybe Vienna and Budapest of 1890s with the cream of eastern Jewry educated in German-run schools isn’t a good analogy for 2010s New America with Somalis and Salvadorian diversity.

    “ the Jew-light, one-people nations of Britain and France”

    Not so Jew-light they didn’t both elect them leaders (Disraeli and Blum). And another PM was married to one (Rosebury).

    Per capita the Dutch were at or above the French and English, and were also the most Jewish part of Western Europe. As I recall Jews were above 15% of Amsterdam in its golden age.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Lot


    Not so Jew-light they didn’t both elect them leaders (Disraeli and Blum). And another PM was married to one (Rosebury).
     
    Actually "Jew light" is precisely why these guys could be elected.

    Britain was Jew-light enough--especially during the years of it's rise to being a great power--that it had the chance to fully develop it own trading, business, finance, bureaucratic classes. (As it became a great power, of course, more and more Jews showed up to get in on the action. Just like "the most economically dynamic cities have lots of immigrants".)

    Because Britain had developed "Jew-light" and had its own commercial class, Jews were much less contentious--had generated much less ill will with the nations' people--Disraeli could convert to COE, get elected, rise in the Tory leadership and become PM without Britons get all bent out of shape. (Places where Jews were thicker on the ground, had dominated their middle man niches, views about Jews were much more negative and a Jewish politician becoming the nation's leader would be more contentious.)

    And, of course, Disraeli's policy was one-nation conservatism. Traditional organic institutions, and government policies designed to improve the lot of everyone in that nation. Pretty much the diametric opposite of the screw-you-whitey-i'm-going-to-drown-your-ass-with-cheap-immigrants-who'll-vote-against-you that is the policy of elite American Jews.

    Replies: @Lot

  289. @Art Deco
    @AnotherDad

    I gather Hy Goldberg got that promotion you wanted.

    Replies: @Anon, @Desiderius, @Mr. Anon

    Wow, what a substantive reply. I am shocked by your brilliance. Michel Issa beat you at the neighborhood poker game?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Anon

    I'm not manufacturing an elaborate theory of social or cultural dynamics as a consequence of those poker games I didn't lose to Michel Issa.


    Our friend believes in magic Jews, I don't. Much of what's peddled by academe, the media, the bar, and the social-work-and-mental health trade is meretricious (and not uncommonly vicious). It is so consequent the unpleasantness of the people who peddle it. It is not so consequent to Jews mind-tricking gentiles into being unpleasant.

    Replies: @Anon, @Mr. Anon

  290. @Reg Cæsar
    @Dissident


    Goy literally means nation, and when used in common parlance to refer to non-Jews is equivalent-to and no more pejorative than the English gentile.
     
    Actually, gentile is far more offensive than goy. Same with anglo and gringo.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Kylie

    Actually, gentile is far more offensive than goy. Same with anglo and gringo.

    Why?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous

    It implies "outsider". So it's not offensive coming from the outside, but in expecting us to use it for ourselves. In that sense, goy is more straightforward.

    As for anglo-- which should not be capitalized, because you don't capitalize demonyms in Spanish-- we already had our own traditional term. No need for some beaner's hip abbreviation. Again, gringo is straightforward. We know what is happening.

    Replies: @Dissident, @Lot, @Anonymous

  291. Good for Tucker and **** Frum, that good for nothing neocon. Related:

    https://www.rt.com/usa/474372-tucker-carlson-syria-russia-ukraine/

  292. Eric Holder Rule to be Tested: Is it racism if the victim is white?

    A model and an actress got their money-makers messed up by a racist pack of miscreants during a Midtown bar brawl, according to a new lawsuit seeking to force the venue to hang on to surveillance footage of the throw-down.

    Actress Jennifer Agostini, 43, and swimsuit model Prendinellys Garcia, 47, ran up a nearly $1,000 tab at Midtown lounge Sky Room for their friend’s birthday Saturday night before leaving around 3 a.m. Sunday, their Manhattan Supreme Court lawsuit says.

    But on their way out of the West 40th Street club, they got jumped and beaten to the ground by a group of 10 to 15 people who were yelling “white motherf—ers,” “dirty white b—-es” and “f—k those white b—-es and their money,” the court papers say.

    https://nypost.com/2019/11/26/hoods-attacked-actress-jennifer-agostini-friends-leaving-midtown-bar-suit/

    • Replies: @anon
    @J.Ross

    But on their way out of the West 40th Street club, they got jumped and beaten to the ground by a group of 10 to 15 people who were yelling “white motherf—ers,” “dirty white b—-es” and “f—k those white b—-es and their money,” the court papers say.

    Those knuckleheads! They need a good talking to, so they can get their lives together and graduate from medical school.

    By the way, none of this is hate speech. It's just the lingering residue of slabery and redlining and Jim Crow and lack of funding for good schools. That's all. Move on, nothing more to be seen.

    , @Joe Stalin
    @J.Ross


    In 2011, only about 4,000 people had permits to carry concealed handguns in New York City, according to public records reviewed by The New York Times. Most of the people who legally pack heat are retired cops, active security guards and business owners who handle significant amounts of cash, along with a few wealthy celebrities.

    https://citylimits.org/2017/12/19/what-the-new-concealed-carry-gun-law-could-mean-for-new-york-city/
     
    "No Fear"... if you are criminal in NYC of effective armed self-defense! Self-inflicted NYC wounds.

    Getting a NYC Firearms Permit

    The process for obtaining a handgun license in New York City is long (between 3 – 6 months, and waits up to 8-10 months are not entirely uncommon), and compared to many other jurisdictions, rather expensive. It’s not particularly difficult, but it is tedious and incredibly time consuming. It tests your patience, and there is a lot of bureaucracy to deal with.

    The process for getting a long arms permit (shotgun & rifle) is now the same as getting a handgun permit. Long arms permits usually take anywhere from 9-12 months. The office for Rifle and Shotgun Licensing is in Queens, while the Pistol Licensing Division is located in 1 Police Plaza in Manhattan.

    https://newyorkcityguns.com/getting-a-nyc-firearms-permit/
     
    Brain damaged voters. Got.to.be.
    , @black sea
    @J.Ross

    How exactly does this qualify as "a brawl?"

    Replies: @J.Ross, @ben tillman

  293. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D

    Jack, i've read enough of your stuff, to know that your Jewish identity is deeply important to you and Jewish supremacism is critical to your world view. But seriously take a deep breath.


    You are never going to unscramble the omelet in America and even if you could, you wouldn’t want to. The multi-ethnic pre-war capitals of E. Europe – Budapest, Prague, Vienna were cauldrons of ferment that gave forth all sorts of geniuses, Jewish and non-Jewish. It wasn’t all good but a lot of it was. Their modern day mono-ethnic incarnations are deadly dull places that nothing new ever comes from, good or bad.
     
    -- America.
    I'm not trying to "unscramble the omlet". The high point for America was the immediate post-War period i was born into. As i've noted many many times the Depression and War had a consolidating effect, forging a more unitary "one people" white America. (I'm a "mixed" product of that ... happy being in that omlet.) We still had the "legacy of slavery" to deal with--that's a deep problem as anyone HBD aware is aware. But ... mid-century America was pretty damn good, pretty damn productive and pretty damn nice. Unfortunately--and yes many other factors--the Jews weren't happy because of Christmas carol alienation or some other whiny Jewish shit and as the Jews rose, they relententless attacked and have considerably "deconstructed" it.

    Our current multicultural "ferment" in contrast accomplishes nothing--as we have to pat everyone's sensitivities on the back and and get their pronouns right. We certainly aren't doing moon landings and to the extent we still make pretty good aircraft that is living off the ground work, the legacy of the high-trust, high-competency mid-century America.

    -- Multi-ethnic, Central Europe, Jews, "ferment"
    LOL. If there's one obvious take-home from modern European history it is how thoroughly the Jew-light, one-people nations of Britain and France beat the crap out of the tired old Jew heavy "multi-cultural" empires--Austria, Russia. Heck, even Japan coming from feudal backwardness used its competent mono-ethnicity nationalism to rapidly develop to where it put the whoop ass on Russia. Multi-cultural==fragmented==failed. It was only when the Prussians cobbled together a one-people German state that the remnants of the Holy Roman Empire were back in the game at all.

    -- "Ferment", Jews. I know this offends your Jewish supremacism but "Jewish thought" absolutely sucks. Yes, Jews are smart. They have done good work piling on top of the scientific foundation/method developed in the West. But Jewish social/political thought? Please. A disaster, that's spawned human unhappiness and destruction beyond belief. The Anglo-Saxon thinkers have beat your guys like a drum. Better, more empirically grounded, ideas across the board--politically, socially, economically, even scientifically (especially when you start talking biology). If Jews had simply been banned from opening their mouths the world would have been clearer thinking, less violent, more propsperous, more pleasant place.


    Just as comparative advantage says that in international trade, you should let Italians design your shoes and Germans build your cars, the same is true within nations. Once you have reduce a nation to a monoethnicity, then no comparative advantage is possible.
     
    LOL. Seriously?

    "Comparative advantage" springs up within nations all the time because of geography--the coal is here, the iron is here, the corn grows well here, the wheat here, the Great Lakes make transport cheap here, the river makes it cheap over there--or because of social/industrial history leading to local competence, expertise, e.g. Silicon Valley.

    Actually the Italians have designed some very fine cars. But your very example debunks your point. You can have whatever "comparative advantage" is available from different ethnicities simply via international trade, without having to live with each other. That's the whole point of "international" trade. I don't have to actually live with a bunch of Chinese to enjoy whatever the heck it is that Chinese do well.

    Furthermore as Germany, or Italy or France or the US or Japan or Korea, it's hardly necessary to have ethnic diversity to do quality production. You have competent people ... you can build nice stuff and better yet if mono-ethnic you get to actually enjoy your productivity and prosperity without a bunch of ethnic contention.


    I know that this is your dream vision but it’s kind of nuts. If you really want that kind of mono-ethnic state, there are places in E. Europe that are like that now but I don’t think you’d really want to live in them.
     
    No Jack, you are nuts. I'm sorry. You come from a middle man minority and--despite being an intelligent guy--are simply incapable of viewing the world as it and insist that it really, really, must be better if it is all remade to be comfortable for Jews exploit.

    But essentially all of history debunks you. The rise of Britain debunks you. The rise of France debunks you. The crappiness/unpleasantness of Russia debunks you. The post-war pleasantness of the Nordic countries ... and now their multicultural dystopias debunk you. The rise of the US--its continual struggles with the "legacy of slavery" and now it's multicultural decline debunks you. Japan, Korea debunk you. China kicks the "comparative advantage heavy" India's ass debunks you. Heck even Israel debunks you. The Jews--now with their own nation--are creating a very pleasant prosperous place, with the shitty part being (much like the US) the unresolved multi-ethnic issues.

    All of history stands up and says people really like living with people of the same culture and such one people marry-the-girl-next-door nations--when the people are high IQ and competent--can develop high-trust at national scale and become very, very prosperous and extremely pleasant places to live. Jack, history is a massive debunking of your Jewish middle man minority "diversity" ideology.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Lot, @AnotherDad, @Mr. Anon, @gsjackson

    I’ll throw on top of this that there is no pleasant multi-cultural or multi-ethnic steady state.

    I don’t have a good feel for early 20th century Central Europe–Jack’s example. But clearly one part of what was going on with the Jews was that some numbers of them had liberalized–were giving up their age old tribalism and becoming members of their local nations. And as they become members of their nation–become “Austrian” instead “Jewish”–then we start to see intermarriage and some numbers of half-Jews, quarter-Jews etc.

    Likewise if America could get its act together and actual stop immigration, we’d start to see some healing. Obviously a lot of damage has been done, but with an actual immigration stop, people would start to be more “American”. In 100 years we’d have a upper-middle class that’s mostly white but mixed with a good dollop of fancy Asian and Jewish. A middle class that is similar but a little more Hispanic. A working class that is a mixture of white and Latino with a bit of black. And we’d still have black underclass problem. As Steve has noted, it would be more along the lines of a Latin American “color continum” compared to our old color line. It wouldn’t be–can’t be–1960 again, but intermarriage would be pushing us back toward being a “one people” nation … with a black problem.

    But that’s the key point. Either:

    — Various ethnic groups are more or less able to get along … in which case mixing drives you toward being some sort of “one people”

    or

    — There are hard barriers to mixing–like Jewish religious tribalism/endogamy did for 1000 years–which can not be maintained unless people have a strong identity of separatness or superiority and means relations are *un*pleasant.

    Any claimed happy multicultural state is actually–by mathematical necessity–a transition state back toward a much more stable one-people nation. And a nation is fortunate–lucky–to be able to carry off such a transition peacefully. Often deviations from one-peopleness generate a lot of “unpleasantness”.

  294. @Hail
    @Reg Cæsar

    Winter capital: St. Petersburg, Florida.


    American Style magazine ranked St. Petersburg its top mid-size city in 2011, citing its "vibrant" arts scene
     
    Uh oh.

    Replies: @Dtbb

    All the vibrancy is south of Central Ave. The museum’s are pretty safe.

  295. I think you’re alliance don’t quite work, Steve. The neocons (who are now allies and full property of the pro-war Left and who the Left suddenly stopped criticizing since it became clear they hate Trump) might love Israel, but the rest of the coalition of Fringes is not fond of the Israelis.

    They think Iran gets a bad rap and the pallets of cash in foreign currency 0bama delivered secretively on pallets was “their money.” They hate Russia, but Bibi might be second to Trump on their list of the world’s bad guys.

    This is the real problem for the Beltway Democrats folk: Israel is a real fault line. Frum and Kristol are blinded by ego and personal animus, but the Democrats are only tolerating them as long as Trump is around. That convention, with the Palestinian flags and Ilhan Omar and AOC’s radical stemwinders: it’s going to be a riot. They had one last time in Philly, but this is going to be nuts. Schumer and Nancy and the rest of them will be hard pressed to control the BLM, pro-Pal, pro-illegal, anti-cop activist base.

  296. @Reg Cæsar
    @Dissident


    Goy literally means nation, and when used in common parlance to refer to non-Jews is equivalent-to and no more pejorative than the English gentile.
     
    Actually, gentile is far more offensive than goy. Same with anglo and gringo.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Kylie

    And let’s not forget before “Becky” and “Karen” were used as snide ways to refer to white women, there was “Miss Ann”, used, if I remember aright, exclusively by blacks. Now, of course, woke whites have jumped on the Karen/Becky bandwagon.

  297. @HammerJack
    @ben tillman

    Is there any substantial part of the Old Testament that is not completely psychotic?

    Replies: @Hibernian, @ben tillman

    The Psalms.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  298. @Lot
    @AnotherDad

    “ Our current multicultural “ferment” in contrast accomplishes nothing”

    Hmmm, maybe Vienna and Budapest of 1890s with the cream of eastern Jewry educated in German-run schools isn’t a good analogy for 2010s New America with Somalis and Salvadorian diversity.

    “ the Jew-light, one-people nations of Britain and France”

    Not so Jew-light they didn’t both elect them leaders (Disraeli and Blum). And another PM was married to one (Rosebury).

    Per capita the Dutch were at or above the French and English, and were also the most Jewish part of Western Europe. As I recall Jews were above 15% of Amsterdam in its golden age.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Vel%C3%A1zquez_-_de_Breda_o_Las_Lanzas_%28Museo_del_Prado%2C_1634-35%29.jpg/1244px-Vel%C3%A1zquez_-_de_Breda_o_Las_Lanzas_%28Museo_del_Prado%2C_1634-35%29.jpg

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Not so Jew-light they didn’t both elect them leaders (Disraeli and Blum). And another PM was married to one (Rosebury).

    Actually “Jew light” is precisely why these guys could be elected.

    Britain was Jew-light enough–especially during the years of it’s rise to being a great power–that it had the chance to fully develop it own trading, business, finance, bureaucratic classes. (As it became a great power, of course, more and more Jews showed up to get in on the action. Just like “the most economically dynamic cities have lots of immigrants”.)

    Because Britain had developed “Jew-light” and had its own commercial class, Jews were much less contentious–had generated much less ill will with the nations’ people–Disraeli could convert to COE, get elected, rise in the Tory leadership and become PM without Britons get all bent out of shape. (Places where Jews were thicker on the ground, had dominated their middle man niches, views about Jews were much more negative and a Jewish politician becoming the nation’s leader would be more contentious.)

    And, of course, Disraeli’s policy was one-nation conservatism. Traditional organic institutions, and government policies designed to improve the lot of everyone in that nation. Pretty much the diametric opposite of the screw-you-whitey-i’m-going-to-drown-your-ass-with-cheap-immigrants-who’ll-vote-against-you that is the policy of elite American Jews.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @AnotherDad

    “ Britain was Jew-light enough–especially during the years of it’s rise to being a great power–that it had the chance to fully develop it own trading, business, finance, bureaucratic classes.”

    So, why didn’t east slavic backwardness afflict Thessalonika, Amsterdam, Vienna, Berlin, Prague, Warsaw, Budapest, Los Angeles and New York City? Why did Jews doing well there not prevent those other white populations from “developing” all those nice things?

    And you know, it wasn’t just Jews outcompeting the Eastern Slavs, the whole region was a patchwork of dominant minorities. Germans over local Balts, Poles, and Ukrainians, Poles and Lithuanians over Ukrainians. And Hungarians over Slovaks, Austrians over half the Balkans.

    Replies: @nebulafox

  299. @Anonymous
    @Hibernian


    we still are to a certain extent and that’s a good thing.
     
    Why is that a good thing?

    Replies: @Hibernian

    At the risk of sounding like E. Michael Jones our our friend Jake, I think my subculture (not limited to the Irish) is a good alternative to WASP “progressivism” on the one hand and Southern/Rural Midwestern fundamentalism on the other. A Golden Mean of sorts.

    • Agree: utu
  300. anon[355] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    Eric Holder Rule to be Tested: Is it racism if the victim is white?

    A model and an actress got their money-makers messed up by a racist pack of miscreants during a Midtown bar brawl, according to a new lawsuit seeking to force the venue to hang on to surveillance footage of the throw-down.

    Actress Jennifer Agostini, 43, and swimsuit model Prendinellys Garcia, 47, ran up a nearly $1,000 tab at Midtown lounge Sky Room for their friend’s birthday Saturday night before leaving around 3 a.m. Sunday, their Manhattan Supreme Court lawsuit says.

    But on their way out of the West 40th Street club, they got jumped and beaten to the ground by a group of 10 to 15 people who were yelling “white motherf—ers,” “dirty white b—-es” and “f—k those white b—-es and their money,” the court papers say.
     
    https://nypost.com/2019/11/26/hoods-attacked-actress-jennifer-agostini-friends-leaving-midtown-bar-suit/

    https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1199466783834615810

    Replies: @anon, @Joe Stalin, @black sea

    But on their way out of the West 40th Street club, they got jumped and beaten to the ground by a group of 10 to 15 people who were yelling “white motherf—ers,” “dirty white b—-es” and “f—k those white b—-es and their money,” the court papers say.

    Those knuckleheads! They need a good talking to, so they can get their lives together and graduate from medical school.

    By the way, none of this is hate speech. It’s just the lingering residue of slabery and redlining and Jim Crow and lack of funding for good schools. That’s all. Move on, nothing more to be seen.

  301. @Anonymous
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Jon's is not trendy. It looks suspiciously like an off-brand version of the VONS chain. According to legend Jon's was there first and gradually morphed into a VONS knockoff, or that's the evolutionary biology explanation anyway.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    That’s why my nonagenarian dad liked to shop at Jons supermarket. It looked like a 1965 supermarket whereas, say, the newish Ralph’s grocery store on Ventura looks like a 2-story Apple Store with a cart escalator.

  302. @Colin Wright
    This kind of lets the cat out of the bag about who the 'Neo-Cons' are and what their agenda is, doesn't it?

    Replies: @Barnard, @CrunchyButRealistCon, @The Anti-Gnostic, @gsjackson, @S. Anonyia

    Aren’t they essentially leftover Trotskyites? Instead of eternal communist revolution it’s eternal revolution for democracies & multinational corporations.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @S. Anonyia

    '...Instead of eternal communist revolution it’s eternal revolution for democracies & multinational corporations.'

    It's eternal revolution for Israel. The 'democracy' and 'multi-national corporations' are just devices for successively attacking any independent state near Israel and reducing it to either anarchy (Syria, Iraq) or brutal and subservient dictatorship (Egypt).

    It tends to be counter-productive -- Israel's enemies only grow stronger as a result -- but that doesn't seem to discourage them.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  303. @El Dato
    @Art Deco

    I think Israel is grown-up enough that they can do their genocide all on their lonesome and not constantly run around crying like little mentally distressed bitches that someone "forces them" to do this-and-that and blow kid's brains out and flatten thrice-reconstructed villages and engineer destruction of whole countries via the Gimp's armed forces etc. etc. etc.

    Just place an order at BASF, for Jehovah's sake. The german govnm't may even give everything away cheap for "reparations".

    Yeah. I know it's all about cooking the frog until everything from the Golan Heights to the Gaza strip has been "assimilated" properly, but ... come on!

    Replies: @Not Raul, @Jane Plain, @nebulafox

    Israel has committed genocide on the “Palestinians” the way the US has committed genocide on African-Americans.

    The Arabs resident in British Palestine lost a power struggle. Happens. Why should I have any sympathy for the losers?

    “I think Israel is grown-up enough that they can do their genocide all on their lonesome and not constantly run around crying like little mentally distressed bitches that someone “forces them” to do this-and-that and blow kid’s brains out and flatten thrice-reconstructed villages and engineer destruction of whole countries via the Gimp’s armed forces etc. etc. etc.”

    They don’t do that. They do kill people, some of them children, but that happens in war zones, when kids insist on defying armed troops. And although I realize that it might not upset you, it upsets them, and they talk about it a lot in their media, which I think you obsessively read, as most Jew-haters do.

    It’s not unlike the way American soldiers came home and wept about hurting Vietnamese children. Civilized men do that. I’m sorry it hurts your little feelings. You’ll just have to grow up and get used to it.

    • Disagree: Colin Wright
  304. @Desiderius
    @Anonymous

    Neocons conning women.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @S. Anonyia

    Judging by our “bipartisan” foreign policy consensus and the hawkish views of the upper brass of the military, they’ve conned an awful lot of men too.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @S. Anonyia

    No doubt about it. It was similar men who passed the 19th Amendment in the first place.

    Not much of a mystery now tho who one votes for if one wants to stick it to the David Frums, Tom Nichols, and Max Boots of the world and that's Trump. Trump who got over 70% of the married white male vote, and may well get that among married men of all races next go round. It's the single chicks who have lost the plot.

  305. @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar


    Actually, gentile is far more offensive than goy. Same with anglo and gringo.
     
    Why?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    It implies “outsider”. So it’s not offensive coming from the outside, but in expecting us to use it for ourselves. In that sense, goy is more straightforward.

    As for anglo— which should not be capitalized, because you don’t capitalize demonyms in Spanish— we already had our own traditional term. No need for some beaner’s hip abbreviation. Again, gringo is straightforward. We know what is happening.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @Reg Cæsar


    Actually, gentile is far more offensive than goy. Same with anglo and gringo.
     

    [Gentile] It implies “outsider”. So it’s not offensive coming from the outside, but in expecting us to use it for ourselves. In that sense, goy is more straightforward.
     
    Is non-Jew more neutral, then?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Lot
    @Reg Cæsar

    “ Again, gringo is straightforward. We know what is happening.”

    That’s not a word used much anymore in Latin America. Not so much because it is racist, but because it is a marker of low class and just sounds stupid.

    In its place they use: norteamericano for an American or Canadian, “blanco” to mean “white,” and güero to mean “extra white.”

    Replies: @Dtbb

    , @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar


    As for anglo— which should not be capitalized, because you don’t capitalize demonyms in Spanish— we already had our own traditional term.
     
    What term is that?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  306. @AnotherDad
    @Lot


    Not so Jew-light they didn’t both elect them leaders (Disraeli and Blum). And another PM was married to one (Rosebury).
     
    Actually "Jew light" is precisely why these guys could be elected.

    Britain was Jew-light enough--especially during the years of it's rise to being a great power--that it had the chance to fully develop it own trading, business, finance, bureaucratic classes. (As it became a great power, of course, more and more Jews showed up to get in on the action. Just like "the most economically dynamic cities have lots of immigrants".)

    Because Britain had developed "Jew-light" and had its own commercial class, Jews were much less contentious--had generated much less ill will with the nations' people--Disraeli could convert to COE, get elected, rise in the Tory leadership and become PM without Britons get all bent out of shape. (Places where Jews were thicker on the ground, had dominated their middle man niches, views about Jews were much more negative and a Jewish politician becoming the nation's leader would be more contentious.)

    And, of course, Disraeli's policy was one-nation conservatism. Traditional organic institutions, and government policies designed to improve the lot of everyone in that nation. Pretty much the diametric opposite of the screw-you-whitey-i'm-going-to-drown-your-ass-with-cheap-immigrants-who'll-vote-against-you that is the policy of elite American Jews.

    Replies: @Lot

    “ Britain was Jew-light enough–especially during the years of it’s rise to being a great power–that it had the chance to fully develop it own trading, business, finance, bureaucratic classes.”

    So, why didn’t east slavic backwardness afflict Thessalonika, Amsterdam, Vienna, Berlin, Prague, Warsaw, Budapest, Los Angeles and New York City? Why did Jews doing well there not prevent those other white populations from “developing” all those nice things?

    And you know, it wasn’t just Jews outcompeting the Eastern Slavs, the whole region was a patchwork of dominant minorities. Germans over local Balts, Poles, and Ukrainians, Poles and Lithuanians over Ukrainians. And Hungarians over Slovaks, Austrians over half the Balkans.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Lot

    A lot of towns in Poland, the Baltics, Czechia, etc, were originally built by Germans and given Magdeburg Rights. Before the 20th Century, you saw German districts in most big cities as far east as Moscow, like you still see Chinatowns all over Southeast Asia today. The slang word for "foreigner" in Russian was "German" for a long-time, with Dostoevsky satirizing their assimilation issues in the 1860s.

    I'm always interested in the parallels between the Osteidlung and the Chinese exodus in Southeast Asia. You could even draw a comparison between the Thirty Year's War and the Taiping Rebellion creating depopulated wastelands in the mother country and a load of relatively cheap, talented labor wanting to get out at all costs.

    >Likewise if America could get its act together and actual stop immigration, we’d start to see some healing. Obviously a lot of damage has been done, but with an actual immigration stop, people would start to be more “American”. In 100 years we’d have a upper-middle class that’s mostly white but mixed with a good dollop of fancy Asian and Jewish. A middle class that is similar but a little more Hispanic. A working class that is a mixture of white and Latino with a bit of black. And we’d still have black underclass problem. As Steve has noted, it would be more along the lines of a Latin American “color continum” compared to our old color line. It wouldn’t be–can’t be–1960 again, but intermarriage would be pushing us back toward being a “one people” nation … with a black problem.

    That's basically how I expect things will work out as well if the self-defeating SJW nonsense on immigration goes away: we need to stop and absorb what we've got if things are going to work. What's done is done, as a matter of practical policy. America's one big trump card is its assimilative abilities, always has been, so it is time to put that to work. They aren't superhuman-there's a limit to how much stress anything human created can take-but they are considerable. Even now, assimilation still happens despite the best efforts of the baizuo to mess than up. Imagine what it could do if toxic elements like that were removed from political conversation and America's capacities here fully unleashed.

    People here who rant about pure stock don't seem to understand that even if immigration was to stop tomorrow, you've still got the American-born children of the last 50 years of immigration. They are citizens, they aren't going away. What do they propose on doing with them?

    I personally find the idea of having a neo-Brazil with entrenched classes split on racial lines noxious, but it is definitely a way better fate than having a millet system like the old Ottoman Empire like our elites want. Or having the ethnic violence that our elites are courting break out, because everything goes to hell at the wrong time and we have teeming masses of unemployed immigrants and unemployed native citizens who hate each other.

  307. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous

    It implies "outsider". So it's not offensive coming from the outside, but in expecting us to use it for ourselves. In that sense, goy is more straightforward.

    As for anglo-- which should not be capitalized, because you don't capitalize demonyms in Spanish-- we already had our own traditional term. No need for some beaner's hip abbreviation. Again, gringo is straightforward. We know what is happening.

    Replies: @Dissident, @Lot, @Anonymous

    Actually, gentile is far more offensive than goy. Same with anglo and gringo.

    [Gentile] It implies “outsider”. So it’s not offensive coming from the outside, but in expecting us to use it for ourselves. In that sense, goy is more straightforward.

    Is non-Jew more neutral, then?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Dissident


    Is non-Jew more neutral, then?
     
    That's a city in China. And a stop on the Canton subway.




    https://www.weather-forecast.com/locationmaps/Nanzhou.8.gif

    http://subway.umka.org/map-guangzhou/line-2/nanzhou.html
  308. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous

    It implies "outsider". So it's not offensive coming from the outside, but in expecting us to use it for ourselves. In that sense, goy is more straightforward.

    As for anglo-- which should not be capitalized, because you don't capitalize demonyms in Spanish-- we already had our own traditional term. No need for some beaner's hip abbreviation. Again, gringo is straightforward. We know what is happening.

    Replies: @Dissident, @Lot, @Anonymous

    “ Again, gringo is straightforward. We know what is happening.”

    That’s not a word used much anymore in Latin America. Not so much because it is racist, but because it is a marker of low class and just sounds stupid.

    In its place they use: norteamericano for an American or Canadian, “blanco” to mean “white,” and güero to mean “extra white.”

    • Replies: @Dtbb
    @Lot

    I get called "pinche gringo pendejo" at least once a week at work. It makes me proud.

  309. @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @istevefan, @schnellandine, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Gaius Gracchus, @Alfa158, @Chet Bradley, @nebulafox, @Bardon Kaldian, @MEH 0910, @Clyde, @Realist, @Tlotsi, @Malcolm X-Lax, @J1234, @The Anti-Gnostic, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @22pp22, @MBB, @imbroglio, @Joe Schmoe, @Bradley

    Pakistani immigrants to Britain have gang-raped their way through every orphanage in the land. They could not have behaved worse than they have. Were it not for PC law-enforcement, the jails would be even more Muslim than they currently are.

    They have brought with them very imaginable kind of barbarism of which bacchi bazi has to be the worst. The huge rise in anti-semitic attacks in solely the result of their arrival.

    Pakistan has a greater need for qualified people than the US. Think of all the good he (and you) could do by settling there.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @22pp22

    Most Pakistanis in Britain are Mirpuris. Even within the Islamic World, they've got a notoriously "ghetto" reputation. My own girlfriend comes from an Islamic culture, and she's not comfortable walking alone or at night in Pakistani dominated neighborhoods in British cities. Most Pakistanis in America-not all, but a healthy majority-by contrast, are well-educated professionals who assimilate and see no contradiction between their religion and their citizens.

    I agree that the United States does not need more mass immigration: apart from the need to truly absorb the tidal wave we've gotten over the past 30 years, we have an economy that is going to have less jobs in the future, not more, so do we really need to be importing tens of millions of new citizens? But let's not pretend that the socioeconomic background and motivations of the immigrants don't matter.

    Replies: @22pp22, @22pp22

  310. @Art Deco
    @AnotherDad

    I gather Hy Goldberg got that promotion you wanted.

    Replies: @Anon, @Desiderius, @Mr. Anon

    Nah, he and his just created millions of HR harridans that have screwed us both.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @Desiderius

    From what I've seen, the HR harridans are the next level down, midlevel white (usually gentile) women who would have been temperance crusaders in a different era. They created the *policies and ideas* that created the harridans.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  311. @Lot
    @Reg Cæsar

    “ Again, gringo is straightforward. We know what is happening.”

    That’s not a word used much anymore in Latin America. Not so much because it is racist, but because it is a marker of low class and just sounds stupid.

    In its place they use: norteamericano for an American or Canadian, “blanco” to mean “white,” and güero to mean “extra white.”

    Replies: @Dtbb

    I get called “pinche gringo pendejo” at least once a week at work. It makes me proud.

  312. @Art Deco
    @Moses

    It was a banal and mildly derisive term applied (by a skeptical grandmother) to my sister, among others. Rabbi Abramowitz needs to grow a sense of humor.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Dissident, @Moses

    Rabbi Abramowitz needs to grow a sense of humor.

    Right.

    And Blacks, Jews and Latinos needs to “grow a sense of humor” about the other-izing, unpleasant pejoratives used to describe their groups.

    This is not a good look for us Jews, Deco.

  313. @Anonymous
    @AnotherDad


    Ok, i’ve got to give credit to the cleverness of “Sherry Khan”. I’m old and slow so i didn’t catch it right away, but–first rate.
     
    Is there a pun in the name that I am missing?

    Replies: @Anon

  314. @Art Deco
    @Dissident

    Both terms are, as per their literal definition, inherently highly pejorative and dehumanizing.

    Nobody'd gotten the memo in the suburban township we were living in in 1978.

    Replies: @Anon

    So it’s like “mother—-er” or “ni–er” or “cra–er” then for a certain demographic?

    Or like “wog” for a different demographic?

    “Bu–er”?

    Not like “heretic” or “idolater”, those are straight descriptions.

  315. Yes, Trotsky himself endorsed the idea that his brand of communism and Americanism could be merged.

    Leon Trotsky
    If America Should Go Communist
    Liberty, March 23, 1935.

    https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1934/08/ame.htm

  316. @Prof. Woland
    @Prof. Woland

    One other thing ... Russians have a much greater awareness of their own ethnicity and are in-grouped which means they can see right through Jews unlike American whites making them much more threatening to (((certain))) people that don't exist as an ethnic group and are really just regular people like everybody else. All the more reason to destroy them totally both here and there.

    Putin's neutering of the Jewish Oligarchs when he came to power has not been forgotten by their fellow travelers including Soros and his ilk. It fouled up their plans to have their way with the Russians including breaking the country apart and looting it. Putin saved Russia from a catastrophe and he is hated for it; by all the right people of course.

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow, @Dmitry

    I think the oligarchs still looted quite a bit before Putin dropped the hammer, but you are right, Putin is very much a nationalist and quite unapologetic about it. To the modern left, this is horrible, if he were just saying it to get reelected, but privately was all in on the globalization game they might tolerate it, but he actually likes his country and his own people, which to American political elites is just ridiculous and the mark of insanity.

  317. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous

    It implies "outsider". So it's not offensive coming from the outside, but in expecting us to use it for ourselves. In that sense, goy is more straightforward.

    As for anglo-- which should not be capitalized, because you don't capitalize demonyms in Spanish-- we already had our own traditional term. No need for some beaner's hip abbreviation. Again, gringo is straightforward. We know what is happening.

    Replies: @Dissident, @Lot, @Anonymous

    As for anglo— which should not be capitalized, because you don’t capitalize demonyms in Spanish— we already had our own traditional term.

    What term is that?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous

    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51Gtxq-HlLL._SL300_.jpg

    Replies: @Anon

  318. @eah
    OT

    Dem-Controlled School District Adopts SJW-Backed Busing Plan Despite Widespread Opposition

    "The redistricting plan based on ‘equity’ came out of left field and is clearly an idea which came from outside the county. Even the board members who were very much ‘for’ the plan cited how the ‘country was watching’ — which just goes to show they were more interested in their own headlines than the lives of our county’s school children." ...

    As the reporters pointed out, it appears this is yet another example of crusading white SJWs patronizing minorities and the indigent.
     
    Quote from the video: "What it comes down to is a moral mandate about equity and race."

    Replies: @El Dato, @Daniel H, @Alden

    It’s not your fight, it’s not your problem. This is just internecine conflict between two SJW factions. Encourage the conflict. Let them devour one another.

  319. @Romanian
    @inertial

    I'd rather it was in Vienna or Geneva than in Moscow.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    I’d rather it was in Vienna or Geneva than in Moscow.

    Or Vienna and Dallas, like the old dual monarchy.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    @ben tillman

    That went straight over my head, I am sorry :)) Was it a Budapest joke?

  320. @HammerJack
    @ben tillman

    Is there any substantial part of the Old Testament that is not completely psychotic?

    Replies: @Hibernian, @ben tillman

    Be fruitful and multiply?

  321. @Hypnotoad666
    @PhysicistDave

    Funny thing about water. People insist on believing that water is "wasted" when it runs out of a tap or down a drain.

    But no water is being destroyed or created. Just temporarily diverted through the human water system on the way to the same ocean it was going to anyway.

    And how many delta smelt do we really need anyway? Not many, I recon.

    Replies: @El Dato, @getaclue

    I believe its like a bait fish…the “conservation” efforts have contributed heavily to the wild fires I have read….Let’s all follow Cali to the Loony bin….

  322. @Art Deco
    @Massimo Heitor

    You kind of wonder if Frum's whole life is a species of cosplay. At this point, he's independently wealthy (and estate planning imperatives may have made him such well before the previous generation died) and his wife also comes from money; her family if not his were people of influence in Ontario. The two of them emigrated for whatever reason. He trained as a lawyer, then never practiced. He landed a job as an editorial writer at The Wall Street Journal, then landed a job in George Bush the Elder's PR apparat. Over the years, he's played a libertarian, a warrior contra Jihadis, a paladin of Rockefeller Republicanism (making the argument the Republicans were somehow obligated to embrace Obama administration policy tar babies because reasons), and now a NeverTrump fantasist. He's burned his bridges to a succession of people (some of whom a sensible person wouldn't have wanted to associate with, to be sure); he was cashiered by the 2d Bush administration, went out of his way to alienate the Rockford Institute and Peter Brimelow, cut ties with National Review, was sh!tcanned by the American Enterprise Institute (in a most embarrassing way, costing him friends), and was at one time the employer of one Alex Pareene (the controversy around which cost him more friends).

    Replies: @Prester John, @Massimo Heitor, @bjondo

    Emigrated to join US Jew
    promoting Wars for Jew.

    For ME destroying,
    US bit better than Canada.

    And

    not even close where
    terrorizing the entire
    earth (for Jew) is concerned.

    For America,
    Frum is a
    pointless, worthless, empty,
    alien.

    5ds

  323. @J.Ross
    Eric Holder Rule to be Tested: Is it racism if the victim is white?

    A model and an actress got their money-makers messed up by a racist pack of miscreants during a Midtown bar brawl, according to a new lawsuit seeking to force the venue to hang on to surveillance footage of the throw-down.

    Actress Jennifer Agostini, 43, and swimsuit model Prendinellys Garcia, 47, ran up a nearly $1,000 tab at Midtown lounge Sky Room for their friend’s birthday Saturday night before leaving around 3 a.m. Sunday, their Manhattan Supreme Court lawsuit says.

    But on their way out of the West 40th Street club, they got jumped and beaten to the ground by a group of 10 to 15 people who were yelling “white motherf—ers,” “dirty white b—-es” and “f—k those white b—-es and their money,” the court papers say.
     
    https://nypost.com/2019/11/26/hoods-attacked-actress-jennifer-agostini-friends-leaving-midtown-bar-suit/

    https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1199466783834615810

    Replies: @anon, @Joe Stalin, @black sea

    In 2011, only about 4,000 people had permits to carry concealed handguns in New York City, according to public records reviewed by The New York Times. Most of the people who legally pack heat are retired cops, active security guards and business owners who handle significant amounts of cash, along with a few wealthy celebrities.

    https://citylimits.org/2017/12/19/what-the-new-concealed-carry-gun-law-could-mean-for-new-york-city/

    “No Fear”… if you are criminal in NYC of effective armed self-defense! Self-inflicted NYC wounds.

    Getting a NYC Firearms Permit

    The process for obtaining a handgun license in New York City is long (between 3 – 6 months, and waits up to 8-10 months are not entirely uncommon), and compared to many other jurisdictions, rather expensive. It’s not particularly difficult, but it is tedious and incredibly time consuming. It tests your patience, and there is a lot of bureaucracy to deal with.

    The process for getting a long arms permit (shotgun & rifle) is now the same as getting a handgun permit. Long arms permits usually take anywhere from 9-12 months. The office for Rifle and Shotgun Licensing is in Queens, while the Pistol Licensing Division is located in 1 Police Plaza in Manhattan.

    https://newyorkcityguns.com/getting-a-nyc-firearms-permit/

    Brain damaged voters. Got.to.be.

  324. @El Dato
    @Art Deco

    I think Israel is grown-up enough that they can do their genocide all on their lonesome and not constantly run around crying like little mentally distressed bitches that someone "forces them" to do this-and-that and blow kid's brains out and flatten thrice-reconstructed villages and engineer destruction of whole countries via the Gimp's armed forces etc. etc. etc.

    Just place an order at BASF, for Jehovah's sake. The german govnm't may even give everything away cheap for "reparations".

    Yeah. I know it's all about cooking the frog until everything from the Golan Heights to the Gaza strip has been "assimilated" properly, but ... come on!

    Replies: @Not Raul, @Jane Plain, @nebulafox

    Calling it genocide is ridiculous: Palestinian Arabs that take on Israeli citizenship have more rights there than they would in any Arab country.

    In my view, Israel is welcome to defend themselves and their conquests to the best of their ability, and in the medium-term, their future is pretty bright, until/unless the demographic explosion of the hardliners on both sides explodes into a bloody morass. They won: when you win wars, you get rights to the spoils. Israel is far more geopolitically better off than they were 50 years ago. The Palestinians have no significant allies to lean on anymore outside of Europe: which an increasingly non-European Israel has little incentive to pay attention to in domestic politics.

    I am not commenting on the rights and wrongs of the situation, merely stating reality as it is. Foreign policy is not, nor will ever missionary work. Americans of all political stripes have a hard time digesting this.

    Where I draw the line are useful idiots on Capitol Hill insisting we help them do their dirty work. They’ve got their own army and their own money, they can do it themselves. The notion of “Judeo-Christian values” being anything approximating a valid motivating factor in foreign policy is a neocon invention that needs to be purged from our political life.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @nebulafox

    'Calling it genocide is ridiculous: Palestinian Arabs that take on Israeli citizenship have more rights there than they would in any Arab country.'

    Leaving aside your grossly misleading claims concerning the rights of Israeli Palestinians, how exactly would a Palestinian in, say, Ramallah, 'take on Israeli citizenship'?

    , @Dissident
    @nebulafox


    They’ve got their own army and their own money, they can do it themselves.
     
    How long would the Zionist State (that has usurped the holy name Israel) last if U.S. support were to cease or even be cut drastically?

    How much longer before that happens? Hasn't support among Americans been decreasing for a while now?
    -------------------------
    Lot:


    These “I’m a black guy with a white wife” and “I am a white woman who only likes NAMs” trolls pretty much always turn out to be Chinese-American or Bangla/Paki incels.

    They popup in all uncensored forums eventually.
     

    Welcome to the Internet, where the men are men, the women are men, and the children are law enforcement agents.

    Remember that one?
    -------------
    Dissident, in reply to Reg Cæsar:


    Is non-Jew more neutral [than gentile], then?
     
    Reg Cæsar:

    That’s a city in China. And a stop on the Canton subway. [Nanzhou]
     
    :) Reminds me of an old joke about two Jews in a Chinese restaurant arguing over whether there are Chinese Jews. Finally, they agree to ask the waiter... It's one of those jokes that doesn't work well in writing.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Jack D

  325. But David Frum’s nationalism attaches not to a multiracial American nation with its capital in Washington, but to a multinational Jewish race with a capital in Jerusalem.

  326. @Lot
    @AnotherDad

    “ Britain was Jew-light enough–especially during the years of it’s rise to being a great power–that it had the chance to fully develop it own trading, business, finance, bureaucratic classes.”

    So, why didn’t east slavic backwardness afflict Thessalonika, Amsterdam, Vienna, Berlin, Prague, Warsaw, Budapest, Los Angeles and New York City? Why did Jews doing well there not prevent those other white populations from “developing” all those nice things?

    And you know, it wasn’t just Jews outcompeting the Eastern Slavs, the whole region was a patchwork of dominant minorities. Germans over local Balts, Poles, and Ukrainians, Poles and Lithuanians over Ukrainians. And Hungarians over Slovaks, Austrians over half the Balkans.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    A lot of towns in Poland, the Baltics, Czechia, etc, were originally built by Germans and given Magdeburg Rights. Before the 20th Century, you saw German districts in most big cities as far east as Moscow, like you still see Chinatowns all over Southeast Asia today. The slang word for “foreigner” in Russian was “German” for a long-time, with Dostoevsky satirizing their assimilation issues in the 1860s.

    I’m always interested in the parallels between the Osteidlung and the Chinese exodus in Southeast Asia. You could even draw a comparison between the Thirty Year’s War and the Taiping Rebellion creating depopulated wastelands in the mother country and a load of relatively cheap, talented labor wanting to get out at all costs.

    >Likewise if America could get its act together and actual stop immigration, we’d start to see some healing. Obviously a lot of damage has been done, but with an actual immigration stop, people would start to be more “American”. In 100 years we’d have a upper-middle class that’s mostly white but mixed with a good dollop of fancy Asian and Jewish. A middle class that is similar but a little more Hispanic. A working class that is a mixture of white and Latino with a bit of black. And we’d still have black underclass problem. As Steve has noted, it would be more along the lines of a Latin American “color continum” compared to our old color line. It wouldn’t be–can’t be–1960 again, but intermarriage would be pushing us back toward being a “one people” nation … with a black problem.

    That’s basically how I expect things will work out as well if the self-defeating SJW nonsense on immigration goes away: we need to stop and absorb what we’ve got if things are going to work. What’s done is done, as a matter of practical policy. America’s one big trump card is its assimilative abilities, always has been, so it is time to put that to work. They aren’t superhuman-there’s a limit to how much stress anything human created can take-but they are considerable. Even now, assimilation still happens despite the best efforts of the baizuo to mess than up. Imagine what it could do if toxic elements like that were removed from political conversation and America’s capacities here fully unleashed.

    People here who rant about pure stock don’t seem to understand that even if immigration was to stop tomorrow, you’ve still got the American-born children of the last 50 years of immigration. They are citizens, they aren’t going away. What do they propose on doing with them?

    I personally find the idea of having a neo-Brazil with entrenched classes split on racial lines noxious, but it is definitely a way better fate than having a millet system like the old Ottoman Empire like our elites want. Or having the ethnic violence that our elites are courting break out, because everything goes to hell at the wrong time and we have teeming masses of unemployed immigrants and unemployed native citizens who hate each other.

  327. @Dissident
    @Reg Cæsar


    Actually, gentile is far more offensive than goy. Same with anglo and gringo.
     

    [Gentile] It implies “outsider”. So it’s not offensive coming from the outside, but in expecting us to use it for ourselves. In that sense, goy is more straightforward.
     
    Is non-Jew more neutral, then?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Is non-Jew more neutral, then?

    That’s a city in China. And a stop on the Canton subway.

    http://subway.umka.org/map-guangzhou/line-2/nanzhou.html

  328. @Dissident
    @anon


    David Frum is an ethnocentric bigot like all members of his group. He’s deranged over Trump because he, like the rest of his group, sees him as the champion of “the other”.
     
    What did you mean by "his group"? Jews, per se? If so, how do you account for the very high intermarriage and assimilation rates among Jews? If current demographic trends continue, it won't be that long before the only Jews left are the Orthodox.

    Additionally, I note:
    - A significant minority of Jews support President Trump. Among the Orthodox, perhaps even a majority.

    - As an Orthodox Jew, I am obviously religio-centric* (However, in addition to being anti-Zionist (as nearly all Torah-observant Jews originally were and many still are), I also oppose what our host has dubbed Invade the World/ Invite the World/ In Hock to the World policies, and the attacks on Whites and decency that are regularly called-out on these pages.

    *As opposed to "ethnocentric", which I'm not sure would be accurate in my case, given that "Jewishness" minus Judaism is utterly worthless to me. I don't even believe there can be any inherent Jewish identity or characteristic minus Judaism.

    Replies: @utu, @ben tillman

    What did you mean by “his group”? Jews, per se? If so, how do you account for the very high intermarriage and assimilation rates among Jews?

    They aren’t high, that’s how. Israel is full of endogamous Jews.

  329. @22pp22
    @Sherry Khan

    Pakistani immigrants to Britain have gang-raped their way through every orphanage in the land. They could not have behaved worse than they have. Were it not for PC law-enforcement, the jails would be even more Muslim than they currently are.

    They have brought with them very imaginable kind of barbarism of which bacchi bazi has to be the worst. The huge rise in anti-semitic attacks in solely the result of their arrival.

    Pakistan has a greater need for qualified people than the US. Think of all the good he (and you) could do by settling there.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    Most Pakistanis in Britain are Mirpuris. Even within the Islamic World, they’ve got a notoriously “ghetto” reputation. My own girlfriend comes from an Islamic culture, and she’s not comfortable walking alone or at night in Pakistani dominated neighborhoods in British cities. Most Pakistanis in America-not all, but a healthy majority-by contrast, are well-educated professionals who assimilate and see no contradiction between their religion and their citizens.

    I agree that the United States does not need more mass immigration: apart from the need to truly absorb the tidal wave we’ve gotten over the past 30 years, we have an economy that is going to have less jobs in the future, not more, so do we really need to be importing tens of millions of new citizens? But let’s not pretend that the socioeconomic background and motivations of the immigrants don’t matter.

    • Replies: @22pp22
    @nebulafox

    The Mozzies who have trashed Holland, Sweden and France by and large don't come Pakistan. I am just going by what I see in front of me. I have also lived in Cyprus. The south is so much nicer, and less sleazy, than the north. Then there the attempted legal lynching of Asia Bibi. Was that solely the work of Mipuris?

    So your Islamic girlfriend bedding a non-Muslim male. The ulema might not take a very kind view of that relationship.

    , @22pp22
    @nebulafox

    You might also find this interesting.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/immigrant-crime-in-germany/

  330. @Dissident
    @Art Deco

    The Wikipedia entry quoted by comment-poster "Moses" on the etymology of shiksa is correct. The term is the feminine equivalent of sheigetz. Both terms are, as per their literal definition, inherently highly pejorative and dehumanizing. I will not deny that there are Jews who knowingly use them that way. But, from my experience at least, there would also appear to be many Jews who use the terms shiksa and sheigetz in complete ignorance of their actual meaning, innocently thinking that such terms are merely synonyms for gentile or non-Jew*. Additionally, as a Jew myself, I am able to report from firsthand experience that even among Jews who do know the literal meaning of sheigetz/shiksa, the terms are widely used merely as synonyms for gentile or non-Jew, with no malice or deliberate intent to insult.

    Personally, I refrain from using either shiksa or shegeitz as generic terms for non-Jews.

    *As goy truly is, oft-repeated charges to the contrary notwithstanding. Goy literally means nation, and when used in common parlance to refer to non-Jews is equivalent-to and no more pejorative than the English gentile.


    It was a banal and mildly derisive term applied (by a skeptical grandmother) to my sister, among others.
     
    Such usage would possibly appear to be supported by extrapolating from how my copy of Harduf's Transliterated English-Yiddish/Yiddish-English Dictionary translates "sheigets": as "impudent boy". The same reference work translates "shikse" merely as "gentile girl". This would apparently support the observations I made above about these words being widely used innocently.

    I do not have access at the moment to the far more complete, comprehensive and authoritative reference work by the renowned late Yiddishist Uriel Weinreich. Perhaps one of our resident Yiddishists could help out here.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    Personally, I refrain from using either shiksa or shegeitz as generic terms for non-Jews.

    Thanks, courtesy is appreciated.

  331. @AnotherDad
    @Sherry Khan

    Ok, i've got to give credit to the cleverness of "Sherry Khan". I'm old and slow so i didn't catch it right away, but--first rate.

    And--to be fair--there are a smattering of "Sherry Khan"s out there. Women who have defected and sold their bodies to enemy foreign men ... which in our weird clueless state allows those men entry into our nation. And the above blather is plausibly what such a woman might spew. So maybe there is some value in this.

    Still this is the 3rd or 4th of these sock puppets i've noticed in the last couple weeks that seem to be from the same source.

    All while our Tiny Duck--who was a comforting presence and occasionally hilarious--remains AWOL.

    "Sherry Khan" if you are the Duck, please give up this sockpuppetry and return to your true calling as "Tiny Duck".

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Daniel Chieh, @Anonymous, @Lot, @black sea

    A Duck by any other name
    would have webbed feet.

  332. @J.Ross
    Eric Holder Rule to be Tested: Is it racism if the victim is white?

    A model and an actress got their money-makers messed up by a racist pack of miscreants during a Midtown bar brawl, according to a new lawsuit seeking to force the venue to hang on to surveillance footage of the throw-down.

    Actress Jennifer Agostini, 43, and swimsuit model Prendinellys Garcia, 47, ran up a nearly $1,000 tab at Midtown lounge Sky Room for their friend’s birthday Saturday night before leaving around 3 a.m. Sunday, their Manhattan Supreme Court lawsuit says.

    But on their way out of the West 40th Street club, they got jumped and beaten to the ground by a group of 10 to 15 people who were yelling “white motherf—ers,” “dirty white b—-es” and “f—k those white b—-es and their money,” the court papers say.
     
    https://nypost.com/2019/11/26/hoods-attacked-actress-jennifer-agostini-friends-leaving-midtown-bar-suit/

    https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1199466783834615810

    Replies: @anon, @Joe Stalin, @black sea

    How exactly does this qualify as “a brawl?”

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @black sea

    There's a lot of disgusting content on NPR but you remind me that there was recently an especially dishonest and low piece: a black female speaker relates a memory from elementary school in Portland, determining that a (cough, cough, prettier) white girl is actually a ray sis, and, following certain remarks by this girl, deciding to "fight" her, or to not tell the authorities that the speaker knew fellow black students were planning on intercepting and "fighting" the evil white girl. This story perfectly dovetails with a regular 4chan activist spam template, either threatened or related in a narrative form that we're going to find out who you are and "fight" you.

    , @ben tillman
    @black sea

    Or a "bar" brawl when it was outside?

  333. @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @istevefan, @schnellandine, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Gaius Gracchus, @Alfa158, @Chet Bradley, @nebulafox, @Bardon Kaldian, @MEH 0910, @Clyde, @Realist, @Tlotsi, @Malcolm X-Lax, @J1234, @The Anti-Gnostic, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @22pp22, @MBB, @imbroglio, @Joe Schmoe, @Bradley

    He is against illegal not legal immigration, as am I. I have multiracial grandchildren whose parents are big Trump supporters. I expect Wisconsin to vote Trump again. You disparage Carlson’s whiteness but not your ancestors. Why the hate?

  334. @Desiderius
    @Art Deco

    Nah, he and his just created millions of HR harridans that have screwed us both.

    Replies: @SFG

    From what I’ve seen, the HR harridans are the next level down, midlevel white (usually gentile) women who would have been temperance crusaders in a different era. They created the *policies and ideas* that created the harridans.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @SFG

    Yes, that was my point. In that cohort at least they're not all white either. I usually don't have much of a problem with blacks. HR is an exception.

  335. @nebulafox
    @El Dato

    Calling it genocide is ridiculous: Palestinian Arabs that take on Israeli citizenship have more rights there than they would in any Arab country.

    In my view, Israel is welcome to defend themselves and their conquests to the best of their ability, and in the medium-term, their future is pretty bright, until/unless the demographic explosion of the hardliners on both sides explodes into a bloody morass. They won: when you win wars, you get rights to the spoils. Israel is far more geopolitically better off than they were 50 years ago. The Palestinians have no significant allies to lean on anymore outside of Europe: which an increasingly non-European Israel has little incentive to pay attention to in domestic politics.

    I am not commenting on the rights and wrongs of the situation, merely stating reality as it is. Foreign policy is not, nor will ever missionary work. Americans of all political stripes have a hard time digesting this.

    Where I draw the line are useful idiots on Capitol Hill insisting we help them do their dirty work. They've got their own army and their own money, they can do it themselves. The notion of "Judeo-Christian values" being anything approximating a valid motivating factor in foreign policy is a neocon invention that needs to be purged from our political life.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Dissident

    ‘Calling it genocide is ridiculous: Palestinian Arabs that take on Israeli citizenship have more rights there than they would in any Arab country.’

    Leaving aside your grossly misleading claims concerning the rights of Israeli Palestinians, how exactly would a Palestinian in, say, Ramallah, ‘take on Israeli citizenship’?

  336. I’m late to the party, and most of the good points have already been made, but:

    -I think Frum is genuinely afraid of an alt-right takeover and wants to decrease immigration to prevent it. I actually think that’s unlikely, but am on board with decreasing immigration. (You might see a breakout white state in the Midwest, though, but only if the Dems are stupid enough. Which is certainly possible.)

    -I’m kind of between Lot and Jack D and AnotherDad; I don’t think a lack of Jews was responsible for the relative success of Britain and France (way, way too many other factors, including early industrialization), but it is true that left-wing Jews had a huge role in the awful woke regime we have now. The whole Sacha Baron Cohen thing says it all: get rich milking stereotypes and then claim you did it to be woke, while everyone else loses their jobs if they wear blackface.

  337. @S. Anonyia
    @Colin Wright

    Aren’t they essentially leftover Trotskyites? Instead of eternal communist revolution it’s eternal revolution for democracies & multinational corporations.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘…Instead of eternal communist revolution it’s eternal revolution for democracies & multinational corporations.’

    It’s eternal revolution for Israel. The ‘democracy’ and ‘multi-national corporations’ are just devices for successively attacking any independent state near Israel and reducing it to either anarchy (Syria, Iraq) or brutal and subservient dictatorship (Egypt).

    It tends to be counter-productive — Israel’s enemies only grow stronger as a result — but that doesn’t seem to discourage them.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Colin Wright

    It’s eternal revolution for Israel. The ‘democracy’ and ‘multi-national corporations’ are just devices for successively attacking any independent state near Israel and reducing it to either anarchy (Syria, Iraq) or brutal and subservient dictatorship (Egypt).

    Yup," brutal and subservient dictatorship" would be otherwise unknown in the Middle East, which is widely hailed as the "cradle of democracy". It escapes my memory, but what were the systems of government in pre-anarchic Iraq and Syria? Huh, it turns out they were "brutal and subservient dictatorships"! Fancy that.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  338. @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar


    As for anglo— which should not be capitalized, because you don’t capitalize demonyms in Spanish— we already had our own traditional term.
     
    What term is that?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Reg Cæsar


    Aye, by my soul! While on yon plain The Saxon rears one shock of grain; While, of ten thousand herds, there strays But one along yon river's maze, The Gael, of plain and river heir, 165 Shall, with strong hand, redeem his share.
     
  339. Beltway-Jerusalem-Kiev Alliance of Niceness

    Beltway-Jerusalem-Kiev Alliance of Extraordinary Gentlemen and Gentleladies

  340. @S. Anonyia
    @Desiderius

    Judging by our “bipartisan” foreign policy consensus and the hawkish views of the upper brass of the military, they’ve conned an awful lot of men too.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    No doubt about it. It was similar men who passed the 19th Amendment in the first place.

    Not much of a mystery now tho who one votes for if one wants to stick it to the David Frums, Tom Nichols, and Max Boots of the world and that’s Trump. Trump who got over 70% of the married white male vote, and may well get that among married men of all races next go round. It’s the single chicks who have lost the plot.

  341. @Anonymous
    @Desiderius


    Neocons conning women.
     
    How do they go about doing it?

    Replies: @Desiderius, @ben tillman

    They tell Savannah Guthrie what to say.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @ben tillman


    They tell Savannah Guthrie what to say.
     
    Please explain?
  342. @SFG
    @Desiderius

    From what I've seen, the HR harridans are the next level down, midlevel white (usually gentile) women who would have been temperance crusaders in a different era. They created the *policies and ideas* that created the harridans.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Yes, that was my point. In that cohort at least they’re not all white either. I usually don’t have much of a problem with blacks. HR is an exception.

  343. @black sea
    @J.Ross

    How exactly does this qualify as "a brawl?"

    Replies: @J.Ross, @ben tillman

    There’s a lot of disgusting content on NPR but you remind me that there was recently an especially dishonest and low piece: a black female speaker relates a memory from elementary school in Portland, determining that a (cough, cough, prettier) white girl is actually a ray sis, and, following certain remarks by this girl, deciding to “fight” her, or to not tell the authorities that the speaker knew fellow black students were planning on intercepting and “fighting” the evil white girl. This story perfectly dovetails with a regular 4chan activist spam template, either threatened or related in a narrative form that we’re going to find out who you are and “fight” you.

  344. @nebulafox
    @Lot

    Self-censorship has the potential to bite the progressives in the butt because they are vastly underestimating how "radical" the views of non-progressive Americans are in the rightward direction. As people have commented, I'm pretty sure the Ross Douthat types read iSteve on the down-low. This cuts both ways. Your average BlueCheck liberal would think Steve is some raving white supremacist nut based on what they hear about him, which, of course, isn't accurate. But more perniciously, the centrist people they know and think are good people probably hold views that they would consider "extreme", and not in a good way: and they don't know that, because non-progressives know better than to voice them in an age where progressivism is becoming increasingly more like a religion.

    (There's also the fact that agreeing with or being open to some of the alt-right's premises, as SFG once mentioned, isn't the same as accepting the attitude or the conclusions. Believing there are racial gaps in average IQ-or just being agnostic on the matter, which, TBH, is really the only honest position to take if you haven't read tons on it-doesn't translate into believing that Jim Crow or lynching was justifiable.)

    This is particularly prominent in places like tech. Take HR 1044 as an example. Pretty much any programmer who is not Indian hates the bill the moment they learn about it, immigrants from other countries included. They have good reason to be, because the moment the quota on India is removed, everybody else is going to be swamped. The donors know that on some level: the media blackout exists for a reason. But I doubt the liberal true-believers do, which means that they'll overplay their hand on the DNC stage if the topic comes up.

    Replies: @Lot, @Jack D, @ben tillman

    Believing there are racial gaps in average IQ-or just being agnostic on the matter, which, TBH, is really the only honest position to take if you haven’t read tons on it-doesn’t translate into believing that Jim Crow or lynching was justifiable.

    Those things weren’t about IQ. They were primarily about violent crime.

  345. This is so hilarious. David Frum, who always considered himself an intellectual; and a polished reader of books and all, but, who is now, totally losing his crap! Tucker is more powerful than he is. And, Tucker has better hair and is better looking….it always comes down to looks and the ole J vs C.

    If Tucker was blonde, Frum would be calling for a full assault of Tucker’s home with shoulder-fired weapons – to hell with his kids.. Frum is so filled with hate & death-wish stuff, that someone should call 911 on his ass. He is a danger to humanity – his hatred has only amplified with every month.

  346. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous

    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51Gtxq-HlLL._SL300_.jpg

    Replies: @Anon

    Aye, by my soul! While on yon plain The Saxon rears one shock of grain; While, of ten thousand herds, there strays But one along yon river’s maze, The Gael, of plain and river heir, 165 Shall, with strong hand, redeem his share.

  347. @nebulafox
    @El Dato

    Calling it genocide is ridiculous: Palestinian Arabs that take on Israeli citizenship have more rights there than they would in any Arab country.

    In my view, Israel is welcome to defend themselves and their conquests to the best of their ability, and in the medium-term, their future is pretty bright, until/unless the demographic explosion of the hardliners on both sides explodes into a bloody morass. They won: when you win wars, you get rights to the spoils. Israel is far more geopolitically better off than they were 50 years ago. The Palestinians have no significant allies to lean on anymore outside of Europe: which an increasingly non-European Israel has little incentive to pay attention to in domestic politics.

    I am not commenting on the rights and wrongs of the situation, merely stating reality as it is. Foreign policy is not, nor will ever missionary work. Americans of all political stripes have a hard time digesting this.

    Where I draw the line are useful idiots on Capitol Hill insisting we help them do their dirty work. They've got their own army and their own money, they can do it themselves. The notion of "Judeo-Christian values" being anything approximating a valid motivating factor in foreign policy is a neocon invention that needs to be purged from our political life.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Dissident

    They’ve got their own army and their own money, they can do it themselves.

    How long would the Zionist State (that has usurped the holy name Israel) last if U.S. support were to cease or even be cut drastically?

    How much longer before that happens? Hasn’t support among Americans been decreasing for a while now?
    ————————-
    Lot:

    These “I’m a black guy with a white wife” and “I am a white woman who only likes NAMs” trolls pretty much always turn out to be Chinese-American or Bangla/Paki incels.

    They popup in all uncensored forums eventually.

    Welcome to the Internet, where the men are men, the women are men, and the children are law enforcement agents.

    Remember that one?
    ————-
    Dissident, in reply to Reg Cæsar:

    Is non-Jew more neutral [than gentile], then?

    Reg Cæsar:

    That’s a city in China. And a stop on the Canton subway. [Nanzhou]

    🙂 Reminds me of an old joke about two Jews in a Chinese restaurant arguing over whether there are Chinese Jews. Finally, they agree to ask the waiter… It’s one of those jokes that doesn’t work well in writing.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Dissident

    >How long would the Zionist State (that has usurped the holy name Israel) last if U.S. support were to cease or even be cut drastically?

    Probably reasonably well. They get along just fine with Russia, India, and China these days, with the first two having governments that are explicitly ideologically sympathetic to the Israeli right-wing, and most of their traditional enemies in the region either are in chaos or have tacit alliances/cold peaces with the Zionist entity. This isn't to say everything is hunky-dory (Iran), but nevertheless, if you told an Israeli strategist in the 1970s that it was possible to get this level of geopolitical security, he'd probably think you'd had too much wine.

    Which raises the question, again, of why they get to have a veto over what we do abroad. I can't recall it ever being a wise move to let foreign nations get to have a say in that. Least of all ones that are among the most high-level intelligence threats you face.

    >How much longer before that happens? Hasn’t support among Americans been decreasing for a while now?

    America's politics are becoming increasingly like Europe's in a lot of ways. As older US Jews die off, expect the Democrats to become more and more explicitly pro-Palestinian based off of the usual anti-colonial rubbish that has already been normative on the European Left for multiple decades. (Which is a big part of why European Jews vote right-wing. Jews over there are viewed as the whitest of all white people. That's how an increasingly Diverse America is going to view Jews, too, whether American Jews want to face up to it or not.) And as the culture of the American right gets increasingly secular, expect support for Israel to not go away, but to take on completely different overtones, based on sympathy for fellow nationalists rather than Dominionist sentiment: and to become a lot more conditional on how much it explicitly benefits America. This is a long-term projection, to say the least, but the hints are already there.

    I don't think US support for Israel is going to halt any time soon, but the relationship is going to change. Neither country is what it was in 1972, and there are still a lot of legacy holdover politicians in Washington who don't seem to understand that.

    Replies: @Dissident

    , @Jack D
    @Dissident

    It doesn't work at all, IMHO, because it's a stupid joke.


    I don't know," replies the waiter. "I ask in kitchen." So the waiter goes to the kitchen, then comes back. "Solly. No Chinese Jews," he says. "What?" says one of the men. "No Chinese Jews at all?" "Solly," repeats the waiter. "We got olange Jews, apple Jews, but no Chinese Jews."

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Dissident

  348. @Dissident
    @nebulafox


    They’ve got their own army and their own money, they can do it themselves.
     
    How long would the Zionist State (that has usurped the holy name Israel) last if U.S. support were to cease or even be cut drastically?

    How much longer before that happens? Hasn't support among Americans been decreasing for a while now?
    -------------------------
    Lot:


    These “I’m a black guy with a white wife” and “I am a white woman who only likes NAMs” trolls pretty much always turn out to be Chinese-American or Bangla/Paki incels.

    They popup in all uncensored forums eventually.
     

    Welcome to the Internet, where the men are men, the women are men, and the children are law enforcement agents.

    Remember that one?
    -------------
    Dissident, in reply to Reg Cæsar:


    Is non-Jew more neutral [than gentile], then?
     
    Reg Cæsar:

    That’s a city in China. And a stop on the Canton subway. [Nanzhou]
     
    :) Reminds me of an old joke about two Jews in a Chinese restaurant arguing over whether there are Chinese Jews. Finally, they agree to ask the waiter... It's one of those jokes that doesn't work well in writing.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Jack D

    >How long would the Zionist State (that has usurped the holy name Israel) last if U.S. support were to cease or even be cut drastically?

    Probably reasonably well. They get along just fine with Russia, India, and China these days, with the first two having governments that are explicitly ideologically sympathetic to the Israeli right-wing, and most of their traditional enemies in the region either are in chaos or have tacit alliances/cold peaces with the Zionist entity. This isn’t to say everything is hunky-dory (Iran), but nevertheless, if you told an Israeli strategist in the 1970s that it was possible to get this level of geopolitical security, he’d probably think you’d had too much wine.

    Which raises the question, again, of why they get to have a veto over what we do abroad. I can’t recall it ever being a wise move to let foreign nations get to have a say in that. Least of all ones that are among the most high-level intelligence threats you face.

    >How much longer before that happens? Hasn’t support among Americans been decreasing for a while now?

    America’s politics are becoming increasingly like Europe’s in a lot of ways. As older US Jews die off, expect the Democrats to become more and more explicitly pro-Palestinian based off of the usual anti-colonial rubbish that has already been normative on the European Left for multiple decades. (Which is a big part of why European Jews vote right-wing. Jews over there are viewed as the whitest of all white people. That’s how an increasingly Diverse America is going to view Jews, too, whether American Jews want to face up to it or not.) And as the culture of the American right gets increasingly secular, expect support for Israel to not go away, but to take on completely different overtones, based on sympathy for fellow nationalists rather than Dominionist sentiment: and to become a lot more conditional on how much it explicitly benefits America. This is a long-term projection, to say the least, but the hints are already there.

    I don’t think US support for Israel is going to halt any time soon, but the relationship is going to change. Neither country is what it was in 1972, and there are still a lot of legacy holdover politicians in Washington who don’t seem to understand that.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @nebulafox

    Thanks for replying.


    They get along just fine with Russia, India, and China these days, with the first two having governments that are explicitly ideologically sympathetic to the Israeli right-wing,
     
    But would any of those three offer the kind of financial support that the U.S. has been providing?
  349. @utu
    @Dissident


    If so, how do you account for the very high intermarriage and assimilation rates among Jews?
     
    David From wife converted to Judaism so presumable their children are Jewish. Amy "Tiger Mom" Chua's children are raised Jewish.

    Replies: @Dissident

    David From wife converted to Judaism so presumable their children are Jewish. Amy “Tiger Mom” Chua’s children are raised Jewish.

    https://media.aish.com/documents/will+your+grandchildren+be+jewish-revisited.pdf

    https://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/WillYourGrandchildrenBeJews/

    In the first iteration of our article, we concluded that short of a major change in the choices made with respect to their commitment to Judaism, the vast majority of American Jews between the ages of 18-29 will not have Jewish descendants within the next three decades. [Emphasis mine- Dis.] The conspicuous exception to this trend is American Jews or their descendants who identify themselves as being Orthodox. In this updated version of our article, we have utilized a similar format to its namesake published after the culmination of the NJPS 2000-2001.

    Requisite disclaimer: Citing, linking-to or quoting ≠ endorsing. I specifically disavow the Zionism found on the sites I linked above.

  350. @Johann Ricke
    @Daniel Chieh

    Re constraints on Chinese territorial expansion, here's an insightful essay on the pressures facing reigning emperors. It describes the role of the provincial military governors (aka jiedushi) of the Tang dynasty during its fairly long tenure:


    Jiedushi for most of times were the scapegoats for the army. It was the army who was, as the historians described, arrogant and indulged.

    This is a big topic and you can review my previous answers on the Tang Dynasty to get more details.

    In short, the Tang army since the mid period was quite similar with the Roman Empire's legions after the Marius reform. The army were made by the professional full time soldiers rather than duty fullfilling citizens or farmers. The payment for the soldiers were so high such that they had no motivation to go back or retire to work. Any attempt to cut down the payment, their number or to mistreat them slightly will lead to their rebellion and hijacking the Jiedushi to rebel against the Emperor or to maintain isolation in the military zone known as fanzheng. If the jiefushi refused, the soldiers can easily murder him and put someone else on the top and continue until the jiedushi agreed. This formed a bad circle because to afford the spending of the elite soldiers, the government needed to increase the tax on normal people, which would further to encourage many people to serve in the army and to discourage them from leaving.

    What's more due to the massive expansion of the Tang Dynasty, many regions on the rim of the Empire remained under developed such that the central government couldn't control directly. To deal with it, the Emperor had to let go of the power to the military zones for "autonomy" to deal with the "barbarians" such as Tibetan, Turks, Khitan, Nanzhao.

    Also, a large percent of barbarians served in the army so that the army became highly mixed and hence furthered disorganized.

    For these reasons, Jiedushi, Emperor and the eunuch class, bureaucrats for most of times since the mid period were actually working together to contain these soldiers. And these soldiers also contributed to the Tang Dynasty instead in term of fighting barbarians. So it's not just simply black or white or positive and negative. The soldiers apparently had more contributions than negative influences to the Tang.

    What made Tang fall wasn't anshi rebellion because Tang retained strong for another 100 years. What destroyed Tang was the Huang Chao rebellion from peasants. The military zones were mostly consumed and the eunuch class was butchered. The imperial court totally "lost face" to the soldiers such that many of they no longer loyal to the Tang Dynasty. This created the earth for the new generation of jiedushi (jiedushi 2.0) who were also no longer loyal to the Empire and anybody but themselves. Similarly, as the new "Emperors", these 2.0 jiedushi were also betrayed one by one after each other.

    This struggle continued and escalated in the following "five dynasties and ten kingdoms" period as the general politics became normal: once the previous emperor died, a general would suddenly self claim to be the Emperor or to be "advocated" by his army to be the Emperor. If he didn't agree to rebel, his army would murder him and pick someone else to name as Emperor. The cause was still the same. Soldiers wanna make money by raiding the cities and getting the reward for fighting, and they had zero control from the authority due to the fall of the Tang Dynasty.

    Eventually this problem was solved by the Song Dynasty in which the elite army was forced to withdraw from the military zones but back to the regions near capital under the direct control of the central government, and the economic reform encouraged them to go back to work as farmers.

    What was more the bureaucratic management was imposed to divide the power from generals by bureaucrats. The economic development in the Song period increased the government control on many regions due to the increase of tax income and population such that the need for military zones was decreased.

    And lots of arrogant and indulged elite units also suffered a tremendous population reduction after the chaotic period of the late Tang and five dynasties and ten kingdoms. For instance, the late Tang Emperor, who was "advocated" as the new Emperor by the army that rebelled against his brother as the previous Emperor, massacred the entire unit and its families (around 20,000) after he secured the power. These "natural selection", "invisible hand" on "bad apples" also made the stabilization of army later on possible.

    But these reforms also lowered the fighting power of army such that we observed the weak military performance by the Song army and the rise of Mongols. So nothing was perfect back then. You either had a strong army who may rebel or a weak army who was loyal.
     
    Thanks to subordinates who had their eye on their own kingdoms or the imperial throne itself, Chinese emperors were always scrambling either to keep the existing empire together or to keep their heads. When they felt secure in their domestic holdings, they embarked on foreign military expeditions. But the danger from within was always in the back of their minds.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Daniel Chieh

    Did the Chinese have as many Emperors die violently as the Romans?

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @Steve Sailer

    Not that much after the Tang, from what I recall. Its not particularly a good comparison as Rome was going quite insane toward the end.

    There is, incidentally, an interesting story. As far as I can tell, Emperor Taizong(who founded the Tang, and a lot of what we would consider as widespread Chinese expansion and power) was a really ruthless powermonger who forced his father into a rebellion against the ruling Sui dynasty, and murdered his brothers to secure his succession. His father, upon seeing what happened, retired from the throne in deep depression.

    Now Emperor, Taizong seemed to had become touched by regret of his youthful actions. He would release almost all of his concubines, listened to his court devotedly, and spent time explaining his decisions to those who disagreed. He proceeded to spend much of his time trying to prevent his sons from murdering each other(and to avoid filicide), which he succeeded at, but perhaps at the expense of the dynasty as he ended up choosing the "kindest" son, who proved to be a weak man and a poor Emperor.

  351. @nebulafox
    @22pp22

    Most Pakistanis in Britain are Mirpuris. Even within the Islamic World, they've got a notoriously "ghetto" reputation. My own girlfriend comes from an Islamic culture, and she's not comfortable walking alone or at night in Pakistani dominated neighborhoods in British cities. Most Pakistanis in America-not all, but a healthy majority-by contrast, are well-educated professionals who assimilate and see no contradiction between their religion and their citizens.

    I agree that the United States does not need more mass immigration: apart from the need to truly absorb the tidal wave we've gotten over the past 30 years, we have an economy that is going to have less jobs in the future, not more, so do we really need to be importing tens of millions of new citizens? But let's not pretend that the socioeconomic background and motivations of the immigrants don't matter.

    Replies: @22pp22, @22pp22

    The Mozzies who have trashed Holland, Sweden and France by and large don’t come Pakistan. I am just going by what I see in front of me. I have also lived in Cyprus. The south is so much nicer, and less sleazy, than the north. Then there the attempted legal lynching of Asia Bibi. Was that solely the work of Mipuris?

    So your Islamic girlfriend bedding a non-Muslim male. The ulema might not take a very kind view of that relationship.

  352. @nebulafox
    @22pp22

    Most Pakistanis in Britain are Mirpuris. Even within the Islamic World, they've got a notoriously "ghetto" reputation. My own girlfriend comes from an Islamic culture, and she's not comfortable walking alone or at night in Pakistani dominated neighborhoods in British cities. Most Pakistanis in America-not all, but a healthy majority-by contrast, are well-educated professionals who assimilate and see no contradiction between their religion and their citizens.

    I agree that the United States does not need more mass immigration: apart from the need to truly absorb the tidal wave we've gotten over the past 30 years, we have an economy that is going to have less jobs in the future, not more, so do we really need to be importing tens of millions of new citizens? But let's not pretend that the socioeconomic background and motivations of the immigrants don't matter.

    Replies: @22pp22, @22pp22

    You might also find this interesting.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/immigrant-crime-in-germany/

  353. @Colin Wright
    'David Frum Accuses Tucker Carlson...'

    Ergo, there's at least something good about Tucker Carlson.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Prof. Woland, @Richard B

    Frum: their nationalism attaches not to the multiracial American nation and its capital in Washington, but to a multinational White nation with its capital in Moscow.

    Ah! Would that it were.

    But really, this needs to be rewritten, only this time in a way that doesn’t conceal, but reveals, the heart of the matter.

    So, taking the liberty, here’s Frum again,

    “Jewish Supremacy Inc., (the creators of Invite-Invade-In Debt) of which I, Frum, am a proud member, attaches not to the multiracial American nation that we also created and most definitely control, with its capital in Washington, but to a multinational Jewish nation with its capital in Jerusalem (I mean, really, why do you think we had our Shabbos Goy-in-Chief ostentaciously move the embassy if not to rub it in your face?).

    And we shall tolerate no false Gods (other races) before us. Ever!”

    The one bright spot in all of this is that more and more people are growing sick, sore and tired of their obnoxious persecution mania and creepy as hell psycho-supremacy.

  354. @Steve in Greensboro
    David Frum is a “conservative” in the same sense as Obama is one (as declared by the Dr. Evil’s WaPo the other day). Like Obama, Frum is dedicated to destroying America.

    But he is right when he declares that the capital of the white race is in Moscow. Where else would it be? America is on a glide path to multi-ethnic disaster and replacement, being driven there by our Ruling Class’s dedication to an open Southern border. Europe and the U.K. are on the same path also due to their Ruling Class’s dedication to open borders with low IQ ethnies.

    Hungary and maybe Poland are small islands of the white race, but Russia is the largest.

    And of course, that is why the Ruling Class hates Russia.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    Russia is not a white nationalist state. They have significant minority populations and Putin allows non-white immigration into their country, which has a tanking birthrate–not a recipe for perpetuating whites.

  355. @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @istevefan, @schnellandine, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Gaius Gracchus, @Alfa158, @Chet Bradley, @nebulafox, @Bardon Kaldian, @MEH 0910, @Clyde, @Realist, @Tlotsi, @Malcolm X-Lax, @J1234, @The Anti-Gnostic, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @22pp22, @MBB, @imbroglio, @Joe Schmoe, @Bradley

    What many of us are concerned about is not the inevitability of America becoming more multi-racial. It’s the bigotry of identity politics that, baring its teeth, can’t wait to wreck revenge on white people (making no distinction between groups and classes of whites) for the sins of the past as conveniently defined. Your husband may not share these views but many non-whites, and not just immigrants, do.

    How the transition is managed will make all the difference. The current crop of Dems are incapable of doing so in a positive, intelligent way. Tucker Carlson knows that and takes a lot of heat for saying so.

  356. @Colin Wright
    @S. Anonyia

    '...Instead of eternal communist revolution it’s eternal revolution for democracies & multinational corporations.'

    It's eternal revolution for Israel. The 'democracy' and 'multi-national corporations' are just devices for successively attacking any independent state near Israel and reducing it to either anarchy (Syria, Iraq) or brutal and subservient dictatorship (Egypt).

    It tends to be counter-productive -- Israel's enemies only grow stronger as a result -- but that doesn't seem to discourage them.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    It’s eternal revolution for Israel. The ‘democracy’ and ‘multi-national corporations’ are just devices for successively attacking any independent state near Israel and reducing it to either anarchy (Syria, Iraq) or brutal and subservient dictatorship (Egypt).

    Yup,” brutal and subservient dictatorship” would be otherwise unknown in the Middle East, which is widely hailed as the “cradle of democracy”. It escapes my memory, but what were the systems of government in pre-anarchic Iraq and Syria? Huh, it turns out they were “brutal and subservient dictatorships”! Fancy that.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @kaganovitch

    'Yup,” brutal and subservient dictatorship” would be otherwise unknown in the Middle East, which is widely hailed as the “cradle of democracy”. It escapes my memory, but what were the systems of government in pre-anarchic Iraq and Syria? Huh, it turns out they were “brutal and subservient dictatorships”! Fancy that.'

    Brutal? Definitely. 'Subservient?' Hardly.

    More to the point, Israel hardly works to improve matters. See the current state of Syria and Iraq, the reversal of the Arab Spring in Egypt, the attempts to start a war with Iran, and Israel's energetic attempt to fragment and destroy the Lebanese state back in the eighties.

    It's a bit like if my neighbor kicks his dog and fights with his wife. That's regrettable -- but I'm hardly be helping matters if I shoot their kid with a bb gun and set fire to their house.

    Israel is a bane on everyone's existence -- even that of the Jews themselves.

  357. @ben tillman
    @Romanian


    I’d rather it was in Vienna or Geneva than in Moscow.
     
    Or Vienna and Dallas, like the old dual monarchy.

    Replies: @Romanian

    That went straight over my head, I am sorry :)) Was it a Budapest joke?

  358. @I, Libertine
    David Frum? I turned by back on him sixteen years ago.

    Replies: @I, Libertine

    *my

  359. @Anon
    @Art Deco

    Wow, what a substantive reply. I am shocked by your brilliance. Michel Issa beat you at the neighborhood poker game?

    Replies: @Art Deco

    I’m not manufacturing an elaborate theory of social or cultural dynamics as a consequence of those poker games I didn’t lose to Michel Issa.

    Our friend believes in magic Jews, I don’t. Much of what’s peddled by academe, the media, the bar, and the social-work-and-mental health trade is meretricious (and not uncommonly vicious). It is so consequent the unpleasantness of the people who peddle it. It is not so consequent to Jews mind-tricking gentiles into being unpleasant.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Art Deco


    Much of what’s peddled by academe, the media, the bar, and the social-work-and-mental health trade is meretricious (and not uncommonly vicious). It is so consequent the unpleasantness of the people who peddle it. It is not so consequent to Jews mind-tricking gentiles into being unpleasant.
     
    I'm not sure what It is so consequent the unpleasantness of the people who peddle it means, exactly, but I think I agree.

    Our friend believes in magic Jews
     
    Quotes?
    , @Mr. Anon
    @Art Deco

    There's a line between being erudite and just being a f**king poindexter. It's way behind you. Your baroque prose doesn't make you sound smart; it makes you sound like a ridiculous ninny.

  360. Anon[314] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco
    @Anon

    I'm not manufacturing an elaborate theory of social or cultural dynamics as a consequence of those poker games I didn't lose to Michel Issa.


    Our friend believes in magic Jews, I don't. Much of what's peddled by academe, the media, the bar, and the social-work-and-mental health trade is meretricious (and not uncommonly vicious). It is so consequent the unpleasantness of the people who peddle it. It is not so consequent to Jews mind-tricking gentiles into being unpleasant.

    Replies: @Anon, @Mr. Anon

    Much of what’s peddled by academe, the media, the bar, and the social-work-and-mental health trade is meretricious (and not uncommonly vicious). It is so consequent the unpleasantness of the people who peddle it. It is not so consequent to Jews mind-tricking gentiles into being unpleasant.

    I’m not sure what It is so consequent the unpleasantness of the people who peddle it means, exactly, but I think I agree.

    Our friend believes in magic Jews

    Quotes?

  361. @Art Deco
    @AnotherDad

    I gather Hy Goldberg got that promotion you wanted.

    Replies: @Anon, @Desiderius, @Mr. Anon

    I gather Hy Goldberg got that promotion you wanted.

    No, but he seems to have gotten the one you wanted, and you are fine with being his shoe-shine boy.

    Nitwit.

  362. @Art Deco
    @Anon

    I'm not manufacturing an elaborate theory of social or cultural dynamics as a consequence of those poker games I didn't lose to Michel Issa.


    Our friend believes in magic Jews, I don't. Much of what's peddled by academe, the media, the bar, and the social-work-and-mental health trade is meretricious (and not uncommonly vicious). It is so consequent the unpleasantness of the people who peddle it. It is not so consequent to Jews mind-tricking gentiles into being unpleasant.

    Replies: @Anon, @Mr. Anon

    There’s a line between being erudite and just being a f**king poindexter. It’s way behind you. Your baroque prose doesn’t make you sound smart; it makes you sound like a ridiculous ninny.

  363. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D

    Jack, i've read enough of your stuff, to know that your Jewish identity is deeply important to you and Jewish supremacism is critical to your world view. But seriously take a deep breath.


    You are never going to unscramble the omelet in America and even if you could, you wouldn’t want to. The multi-ethnic pre-war capitals of E. Europe – Budapest, Prague, Vienna were cauldrons of ferment that gave forth all sorts of geniuses, Jewish and non-Jewish. It wasn’t all good but a lot of it was. Their modern day mono-ethnic incarnations are deadly dull places that nothing new ever comes from, good or bad.
     
    -- America.
    I'm not trying to "unscramble the omlet". The high point for America was the immediate post-War period i was born into. As i've noted many many times the Depression and War had a consolidating effect, forging a more unitary "one people" white America. (I'm a "mixed" product of that ... happy being in that omlet.) We still had the "legacy of slavery" to deal with--that's a deep problem as anyone HBD aware is aware. But ... mid-century America was pretty damn good, pretty damn productive and pretty damn nice. Unfortunately--and yes many other factors--the Jews weren't happy because of Christmas carol alienation or some other whiny Jewish shit and as the Jews rose, they relententless attacked and have considerably "deconstructed" it.

    Our current multicultural "ferment" in contrast accomplishes nothing--as we have to pat everyone's sensitivities on the back and and get their pronouns right. We certainly aren't doing moon landings and to the extent we still make pretty good aircraft that is living off the ground work, the legacy of the high-trust, high-competency mid-century America.

    -- Multi-ethnic, Central Europe, Jews, "ferment"
    LOL. If there's one obvious take-home from modern European history it is how thoroughly the Jew-light, one-people nations of Britain and France beat the crap out of the tired old Jew heavy "multi-cultural" empires--Austria, Russia. Heck, even Japan coming from feudal backwardness used its competent mono-ethnicity nationalism to rapidly develop to where it put the whoop ass on Russia. Multi-cultural==fragmented==failed. It was only when the Prussians cobbled together a one-people German state that the remnants of the Holy Roman Empire were back in the game at all.

    -- "Ferment", Jews. I know this offends your Jewish supremacism but "Jewish thought" absolutely sucks. Yes, Jews are smart. They have done good work piling on top of the scientific foundation/method developed in the West. But Jewish social/political thought? Please. A disaster, that's spawned human unhappiness and destruction beyond belief. The Anglo-Saxon thinkers have beat your guys like a drum. Better, more empirically grounded, ideas across the board--politically, socially, economically, even scientifically (especially when you start talking biology). If Jews had simply been banned from opening their mouths the world would have been clearer thinking, less violent, more propsperous, more pleasant place.


    Just as comparative advantage says that in international trade, you should let Italians design your shoes and Germans build your cars, the same is true within nations. Once you have reduce a nation to a monoethnicity, then no comparative advantage is possible.
     
    LOL. Seriously?

    "Comparative advantage" springs up within nations all the time because of geography--the coal is here, the iron is here, the corn grows well here, the wheat here, the Great Lakes make transport cheap here, the river makes it cheap over there--or because of social/industrial history leading to local competence, expertise, e.g. Silicon Valley.

    Actually the Italians have designed some very fine cars. But your very example debunks your point. You can have whatever "comparative advantage" is available from different ethnicities simply via international trade, without having to live with each other. That's the whole point of "international" trade. I don't have to actually live with a bunch of Chinese to enjoy whatever the heck it is that Chinese do well.

    Furthermore as Germany, or Italy or France or the US or Japan or Korea, it's hardly necessary to have ethnic diversity to do quality production. You have competent people ... you can build nice stuff and better yet if mono-ethnic you get to actually enjoy your productivity and prosperity without a bunch of ethnic contention.


    I know that this is your dream vision but it’s kind of nuts. If you really want that kind of mono-ethnic state, there are places in E. Europe that are like that now but I don’t think you’d really want to live in them.
     
    No Jack, you are nuts. I'm sorry. You come from a middle man minority and--despite being an intelligent guy--are simply incapable of viewing the world as it and insist that it really, really, must be better if it is all remade to be comfortable for Jews exploit.

    But essentially all of history debunks you. The rise of Britain debunks you. The rise of France debunks you. The crappiness/unpleasantness of Russia debunks you. The post-war pleasantness of the Nordic countries ... and now their multicultural dystopias debunk you. The rise of the US--its continual struggles with the "legacy of slavery" and now it's multicultural decline debunks you. Japan, Korea debunk you. China kicks the "comparative advantage heavy" India's ass debunks you. Heck even Israel debunks you. The Jews--now with their own nation--are creating a very pleasant prosperous place, with the shitty part being (much like the US) the unresolved multi-ethnic issues.

    All of history stands up and says people really like living with people of the same culture and such one people marry-the-girl-next-door nations--when the people are high IQ and competent--can develop high-trust at national scale and become very, very prosperous and extremely pleasant places to live. Jack, history is a massive debunking of your Jewish middle man minority "diversity" ideology.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Lot, @AnotherDad, @Mr. Anon, @gsjackson

    You angered Art Deco. Be careful………….he might revoke your library card.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Mr. Anon

    Sick burn.

  364. @black sea
    @J.Ross

    How exactly does this qualify as "a brawl?"

    Replies: @J.Ross, @ben tillman

    Or a “bar” brawl when it was outside?

  365. @Johann Ricke
    @Daniel Chieh

    Re constraints on Chinese territorial expansion, here's an insightful essay on the pressures facing reigning emperors. It describes the role of the provincial military governors (aka jiedushi) of the Tang dynasty during its fairly long tenure:


    Jiedushi for most of times were the scapegoats for the army. It was the army who was, as the historians described, arrogant and indulged.

    This is a big topic and you can review my previous answers on the Tang Dynasty to get more details.

    In short, the Tang army since the mid period was quite similar with the Roman Empire's legions after the Marius reform. The army were made by the professional full time soldiers rather than duty fullfilling citizens or farmers. The payment for the soldiers were so high such that they had no motivation to go back or retire to work. Any attempt to cut down the payment, their number or to mistreat them slightly will lead to their rebellion and hijacking the Jiedushi to rebel against the Emperor or to maintain isolation in the military zone known as fanzheng. If the jiefushi refused, the soldiers can easily murder him and put someone else on the top and continue until the jiedushi agreed. This formed a bad circle because to afford the spending of the elite soldiers, the government needed to increase the tax on normal people, which would further to encourage many people to serve in the army and to discourage them from leaving.

    What's more due to the massive expansion of the Tang Dynasty, many regions on the rim of the Empire remained under developed such that the central government couldn't control directly. To deal with it, the Emperor had to let go of the power to the military zones for "autonomy" to deal with the "barbarians" such as Tibetan, Turks, Khitan, Nanzhao.

    Also, a large percent of barbarians served in the army so that the army became highly mixed and hence furthered disorganized.

    For these reasons, Jiedushi, Emperor and the eunuch class, bureaucrats for most of times since the mid period were actually working together to contain these soldiers. And these soldiers also contributed to the Tang Dynasty instead in term of fighting barbarians. So it's not just simply black or white or positive and negative. The soldiers apparently had more contributions than negative influences to the Tang.

    What made Tang fall wasn't anshi rebellion because Tang retained strong for another 100 years. What destroyed Tang was the Huang Chao rebellion from peasants. The military zones were mostly consumed and the eunuch class was butchered. The imperial court totally "lost face" to the soldiers such that many of they no longer loyal to the Tang Dynasty. This created the earth for the new generation of jiedushi (jiedushi 2.0) who were also no longer loyal to the Empire and anybody but themselves. Similarly, as the new "Emperors", these 2.0 jiedushi were also betrayed one by one after each other.

    This struggle continued and escalated in the following "five dynasties and ten kingdoms" period as the general politics became normal: once the previous emperor died, a general would suddenly self claim to be the Emperor or to be "advocated" by his army to be the Emperor. If he didn't agree to rebel, his army would murder him and pick someone else to name as Emperor. The cause was still the same. Soldiers wanna make money by raiding the cities and getting the reward for fighting, and they had zero control from the authority due to the fall of the Tang Dynasty.

    Eventually this problem was solved by the Song Dynasty in which the elite army was forced to withdraw from the military zones but back to the regions near capital under the direct control of the central government, and the economic reform encouraged them to go back to work as farmers.

    What was more the bureaucratic management was imposed to divide the power from generals by bureaucrats. The economic development in the Song period increased the government control on many regions due to the increase of tax income and population such that the need for military zones was decreased.

    And lots of arrogant and indulged elite units also suffered a tremendous population reduction after the chaotic period of the late Tang and five dynasties and ten kingdoms. For instance, the late Tang Emperor, who was "advocated" as the new Emperor by the army that rebelled against his brother as the previous Emperor, massacred the entire unit and its families (around 20,000) after he secured the power. These "natural selection", "invisible hand" on "bad apples" also made the stabilization of army later on possible.

    But these reforms also lowered the fighting power of army such that we observed the weak military performance by the Song army and the rise of Mongols. So nothing was perfect back then. You either had a strong army who may rebel or a weak army who was loyal.
     
    Thanks to subordinates who had their eye on their own kingdoms or the imperial throne itself, Chinese emperors were always scrambling either to keep the existing empire together or to keep their heads. When they felt secure in their domestic holdings, they embarked on foreign military expeditions. But the danger from within was always in the back of their minds.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Daniel Chieh

    Where was the essay originally from? Anyway, the issues of a strong military ultimately ignoring the state is a very common story – essentially a version of that happened with the formation of feudalism, thus “counts” which were originally just appointed by Charlemagne. Issues of communication and local power allowed the counts to insist on hereditary power; incidentally, this happened during the reign of Henry the VI too, when he lost his mind, his lords proceeded to resolve their differences in warfare instead.

    I’ve written more extensively about this elsewhere, actually, and should perhaps put out a blog with essays, but it has always been an historical issue where significant resources dedicated to the military self-perpetuates itself until the military essentially dictates the government. Such governance often leads to warfare as the military also needs to maintain its raison d’entre.

    The Song, of course, went the opposite extreme and would suffer for it as well. The entire Confucianist project, to a meaningful extent, was to denounce the career of a soldier and to those who genuinely subscribed to it, it could lead to a startlingly weak military as could be seen in the Joseon army. The Chinese, while originators of Confucianism, always seemed to only half-abide by its concepts: sufficient enough that militarism was always seen as something a bit dirty, but the Ming was fighting, on average, 1.2 wars per year.

    At any rate, the thing to note is that between the Tang and by intervention by the Imjin, it was almost a full one thousand years and the Koreans had considered themselves the favored sons of the tributary system. China by and large did not indulge in expansionist projects, as it in terms of power and influence, it was logical to expand power through centralization.

    Ultimately, warfare is for wealth, power, and prestige(and for whom). Ever since the Tang, China has never really had rampaging generals capable of starting entire wars to drag the nation in – something which Japan, incidentally, did suffer from.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Daniel Chieh


    China has never really had rampaging generals capable of starting entire wars to drag the nation in
     
    Chinese history is long enough (and the history that has come down to us is often fictionalized enough) that you can find examples (usually object lessons in what NOT to do) of just about everything - generals who rampaged when they shouldn't have and generals who didn't rampage when they should have. It's sort of like the Bible, where you can find support for just about any position by selecting the right verse.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh

  366. @J.Ross
    @Romanian

    You're correct, but you're getting sucked into the false choice. Putin proves that the alternative to globalism is not necessarily Nazism. We can have multiple ethnies and we can set rules, and that's not impossible or hypocritical or racist.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    We can have multiple ethnies and we can set rules,

    What kind of rules are you talking about?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    I actually ran out of smug anime girls and had to let this little brother in.
    https://postimg.cc/ns1x4Gft

  367. @kaganovitch
    @Colin Wright

    It’s eternal revolution for Israel. The ‘democracy’ and ‘multi-national corporations’ are just devices for successively attacking any independent state near Israel and reducing it to either anarchy (Syria, Iraq) or brutal and subservient dictatorship (Egypt).

    Yup," brutal and subservient dictatorship" would be otherwise unknown in the Middle East, which is widely hailed as the "cradle of democracy". It escapes my memory, but what were the systems of government in pre-anarchic Iraq and Syria? Huh, it turns out they were "brutal and subservient dictatorships"! Fancy that.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘Yup,” brutal and subservient dictatorship” would be otherwise unknown in the Middle East, which is widely hailed as the “cradle of democracy”. It escapes my memory, but what were the systems of government in pre-anarchic Iraq and Syria? Huh, it turns out they were “brutal and subservient dictatorships”! Fancy that.’

    Brutal? Definitely. ‘Subservient?’ Hardly.

    More to the point, Israel hardly works to improve matters. See the current state of Syria and Iraq, the reversal of the Arab Spring in Egypt, the attempts to start a war with Iran, and Israel’s energetic attempt to fragment and destroy the Lebanese state back in the eighties.

    It’s a bit like if my neighbor kicks his dog and fights with his wife. That’s regrettable — but I’m hardly be helping matters if I shoot their kid with a bb gun and set fire to their house.

    Israel is a bane on everyone’s existence — even that of the Jews themselves.

  368. @Steve Sailer
    @Johann Ricke

    Did the Chinese have as many Emperors die violently as the Romans?

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh

    Not that much after the Tang, from what I recall. Its not particularly a good comparison as Rome was going quite insane toward the end.

    There is, incidentally, an interesting story. As far as I can tell, Emperor Taizong(who founded the Tang, and a lot of what we would consider as widespread Chinese expansion and power) was a really ruthless powermonger who forced his father into a rebellion against the ruling Sui dynasty, and murdered his brothers to secure his succession. His father, upon seeing what happened, retired from the throne in deep depression.

    Now Emperor, Taizong seemed to had become touched by regret of his youthful actions. He would release almost all of his concubines, listened to his court devotedly, and spent time explaining his decisions to those who disagreed. He proceeded to spend much of his time trying to prevent his sons from murdering each other(and to avoid filicide), which he succeeded at, but perhaps at the expense of the dynasty as he ended up choosing the “kindest” son, who proved to be a weak man and a poor Emperor.

  369. @ben tillman
    @Anonymous

    They tell Savannah Guthrie what to say.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    They tell Savannah Guthrie what to say.

    Please explain?

  370. @Daniel Chieh
    @Johann Ricke

    Where was the essay originally from? Anyway, the issues of a strong military ultimately ignoring the state is a very common story - essentially a version of that happened with the formation of feudalism, thus "counts" which were originally just appointed by Charlemagne. Issues of communication and local power allowed the counts to insist on hereditary power; incidentally, this happened during the reign of Henry the VI too, when he lost his mind, his lords proceeded to resolve their differences in warfare instead.

    I've written more extensively about this elsewhere, actually, and should perhaps put out a blog with essays, but it has always been an historical issue where significant resources dedicated to the military self-perpetuates itself until the military essentially dictates the government. Such governance often leads to warfare as the military also needs to maintain its raison d'entre.

    The Song, of course, went the opposite extreme and would suffer for it as well. The entire Confucianist project, to a meaningful extent, was to denounce the career of a soldier and to those who genuinely subscribed to it, it could lead to a startlingly weak military as could be seen in the Joseon army. The Chinese, while originators of Confucianism, always seemed to only half-abide by its concepts: sufficient enough that militarism was always seen as something a bit dirty, but the Ming was fighting, on average, 1.2 wars per year.

    At any rate, the thing to note is that between the Tang and by intervention by the Imjin, it was almost a full one thousand years and the Koreans had considered themselves the favored sons of the tributary system. China by and large did not indulge in expansionist projects, as it in terms of power and influence, it was logical to expand power through centralization.

    Ultimately, warfare is for wealth, power, and prestige(and for whom). Ever since the Tang, China has never really had rampaging generals capable of starting entire wars to drag the nation in - something which Japan, incidentally, did suffer from.

    Replies: @Jack D

    China has never really had rampaging generals capable of starting entire wars to drag the nation in

    Chinese history is long enough (and the history that has come down to us is often fictionalized enough) that you can find examples (usually object lessons in what NOT to do) of just about everything – generals who rampaged when they shouldn’t have and generals who didn’t rampage when they should have. It’s sort of like the Bible, where you can find support for just about any position by selecting the right verse.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @Jack D

    It is a matter of wealth and power. The dynastic court did not appreciate concentrations of power in any one family, including the economic let alone the military(this is also why they disliked religious concentrations of power). Military adventurism would cause panic, as it would be a clear sign that the court was not in control and rebellion was a constant fear in China(it happened often enough).

    The closest thing that I could think of would be Han–Dayuan war, which is pre-Tang, where the Chinese forces forced all the oasis states along their way into submission while on their mission to besiege Dayuan. It was pretty clearly done with the Emperor's permission.

    For a general to actually drag all of the dynasty into war would involve convincing not just the Emperor(who rarely had undivided power), but the entire mess of power brokers of mandarins, eunuches, business factions, all which had different ideas. It was "conservative" in that sense, since getting anything done was amazingly difficult.

  371. @Dissident
    @nebulafox


    They’ve got their own army and their own money, they can do it themselves.
     
    How long would the Zionist State (that has usurped the holy name Israel) last if U.S. support were to cease or even be cut drastically?

    How much longer before that happens? Hasn't support among Americans been decreasing for a while now?
    -------------------------
    Lot:


    These “I’m a black guy with a white wife” and “I am a white woman who only likes NAMs” trolls pretty much always turn out to be Chinese-American or Bangla/Paki incels.

    They popup in all uncensored forums eventually.
     

    Welcome to the Internet, where the men are men, the women are men, and the children are law enforcement agents.

    Remember that one?
    -------------
    Dissident, in reply to Reg Cæsar:


    Is non-Jew more neutral [than gentile], then?
     
    Reg Cæsar:

    That’s a city in China. And a stop on the Canton subway. [Nanzhou]
     
    :) Reminds me of an old joke about two Jews in a Chinese restaurant arguing over whether there are Chinese Jews. Finally, they agree to ask the waiter... It's one of those jokes that doesn't work well in writing.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Jack D

    It doesn’t work at all, IMHO, because it’s a stupid joke.

    I don’t know,” replies the waiter. “I ask in kitchen.” So the waiter goes to the kitchen, then comes back. “Solly. No Chinese Jews,” he says. “What?” says one of the men. “No Chinese Jews at all?” “Solly,” repeats the waiter. “We got olange Jews, apple Jews, but no Chinese Jews.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jack D


    It doesn’t work at all, IMHO, because it’s a stupid joke.
     
    What makes it stupid?
    , @Dissident
    @Jack D


    It doesn’t work at all, IMHO, because it’s a stupid joke.
     
    I won't dispute that.

    Note that I mentioned the joke only because I was reminded of it by Reg's "non-Jew/Nanzhou" pun.
  372. @Reg Cæsar
    @Desiderius


    Women of the time were largely opposed to the 19th Amendment – it was the vanity of men that led them to believe that women long to emulate them.
     
    "Betas" love apologizing to feminists for their purported brutality. "Somebody thinks I'm a man!"

    As with the ERA, men listened to the wrong women. For a good half-century after 1920, women voted more conservatively than men. (I read once that the Tories in the UK owe all their 20th century victories to the women's vote, as well.)

    I don't care for suffragists, but my favorite has to be Jeannette Rankin, who, as Montana's representative in the House, voted against our entry into both World Wars. She couldn't go, and she refused to send anyone else.

    Likewise, Sylvia Pankhurst, despite being a communist and Abyssiniphile, deserves respect for calling out her mother and sister for their war support.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    Feminism has become a component of the alliance that’s out to destroy white nations. That alliance now includes most mainstream political parties, academia, MSM, most of the Christian churches, etc. Feminism didn’t start out that way. Many early feminists could see that the two sexes were complementary and interdependent.

    The movement is obviously no longer about the advancement of women. Any pro-women movement would give priority to keeping out non-whites whose presence has increased the rape stats by an order of magnitude.

  373. @Jack D
    @Daniel Chieh


    China has never really had rampaging generals capable of starting entire wars to drag the nation in
     
    Chinese history is long enough (and the history that has come down to us is often fictionalized enough) that you can find examples (usually object lessons in what NOT to do) of just about everything - generals who rampaged when they shouldn't have and generals who didn't rampage when they should have. It's sort of like the Bible, where you can find support for just about any position by selecting the right verse.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh

    It is a matter of wealth and power. The dynastic court did not appreciate concentrations of power in any one family, including the economic let alone the military(this is also why they disliked religious concentrations of power). Military adventurism would cause panic, as it would be a clear sign that the court was not in control and rebellion was a constant fear in China(it happened often enough).

    The closest thing that I could think of would be Han–Dayuan war, which is pre-Tang, where the Chinese forces forced all the oasis states along their way into submission while on their mission to besiege Dayuan. It was pretty clearly done with the Emperor’s permission.

    For a general to actually drag all of the dynasty into war would involve convincing not just the Emperor(who rarely had undivided power), but the entire mess of power brokers of mandarins, eunuches, business factions, all which had different ideas. It was “conservative” in that sense, since getting anything done was amazingly difficult.

  374. @Jack D
    @Dissident

    It doesn't work at all, IMHO, because it's a stupid joke.


    I don't know," replies the waiter. "I ask in kitchen." So the waiter goes to the kitchen, then comes back. "Solly. No Chinese Jews," he says. "What?" says one of the men. "No Chinese Jews at all?" "Solly," repeats the waiter. "We got olange Jews, apple Jews, but no Chinese Jews."

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Dissident

    It doesn’t work at all, IMHO, because it’s a stupid joke.

    What makes it stupid?

  375. @Anonymous
    @J.Ross


    Jack is right, absimmilationist and sometimes bitterly anti-Semitic nonwhite new populations guarantee the centrality and longevity of the Hart-Cellar vision, especially as scientific racial identification becomes more practical, and the gullible whites who bought into guilt scams fall farther and farther from power.
     
    What the hell does this sentence even mean?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Jack is saying that (to an extent) multikulti is inevitable. He’s right in that a standard of severe purity is impossible. But yet however though, many of the individial component parts of multikulti are supremacists, internally monocultural, grudgingly tolerating external multimulti for a benefits check, or absimilationists (that is, they do not assimilate, they stick together, they are merely geographically American). So you have something like Austria-Hungary, a fake multi-kulti blanket covering multiple militancies.

  376. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D

    Jack, i've read enough of your stuff, to know that your Jewish identity is deeply important to you and Jewish supremacism is critical to your world view. But seriously take a deep breath.


    You are never going to unscramble the omelet in America and even if you could, you wouldn’t want to. The multi-ethnic pre-war capitals of E. Europe – Budapest, Prague, Vienna were cauldrons of ferment that gave forth all sorts of geniuses, Jewish and non-Jewish. It wasn’t all good but a lot of it was. Their modern day mono-ethnic incarnations are deadly dull places that nothing new ever comes from, good or bad.
     
    -- America.
    I'm not trying to "unscramble the omlet". The high point for America was the immediate post-War period i was born into. As i've noted many many times the Depression and War had a consolidating effect, forging a more unitary "one people" white America. (I'm a "mixed" product of that ... happy being in that omlet.) We still had the "legacy of slavery" to deal with--that's a deep problem as anyone HBD aware is aware. But ... mid-century America was pretty damn good, pretty damn productive and pretty damn nice. Unfortunately--and yes many other factors--the Jews weren't happy because of Christmas carol alienation or some other whiny Jewish shit and as the Jews rose, they relententless attacked and have considerably "deconstructed" it.

    Our current multicultural "ferment" in contrast accomplishes nothing--as we have to pat everyone's sensitivities on the back and and get their pronouns right. We certainly aren't doing moon landings and to the extent we still make pretty good aircraft that is living off the ground work, the legacy of the high-trust, high-competency mid-century America.

    -- Multi-ethnic, Central Europe, Jews, "ferment"
    LOL. If there's one obvious take-home from modern European history it is how thoroughly the Jew-light, one-people nations of Britain and France beat the crap out of the tired old Jew heavy "multi-cultural" empires--Austria, Russia. Heck, even Japan coming from feudal backwardness used its competent mono-ethnicity nationalism to rapidly develop to where it put the whoop ass on Russia. Multi-cultural==fragmented==failed. It was only when the Prussians cobbled together a one-people German state that the remnants of the Holy Roman Empire were back in the game at all.

    -- "Ferment", Jews. I know this offends your Jewish supremacism but "Jewish thought" absolutely sucks. Yes, Jews are smart. They have done good work piling on top of the scientific foundation/method developed in the West. But Jewish social/political thought? Please. A disaster, that's spawned human unhappiness and destruction beyond belief. The Anglo-Saxon thinkers have beat your guys like a drum. Better, more empirically grounded, ideas across the board--politically, socially, economically, even scientifically (especially when you start talking biology). If Jews had simply been banned from opening their mouths the world would have been clearer thinking, less violent, more propsperous, more pleasant place.


    Just as comparative advantage says that in international trade, you should let Italians design your shoes and Germans build your cars, the same is true within nations. Once you have reduce a nation to a monoethnicity, then no comparative advantage is possible.
     
    LOL. Seriously?

    "Comparative advantage" springs up within nations all the time because of geography--the coal is here, the iron is here, the corn grows well here, the wheat here, the Great Lakes make transport cheap here, the river makes it cheap over there--or because of social/industrial history leading to local competence, expertise, e.g. Silicon Valley.

    Actually the Italians have designed some very fine cars. But your very example debunks your point. You can have whatever "comparative advantage" is available from different ethnicities simply via international trade, without having to live with each other. That's the whole point of "international" trade. I don't have to actually live with a bunch of Chinese to enjoy whatever the heck it is that Chinese do well.

    Furthermore as Germany, or Italy or France or the US or Japan or Korea, it's hardly necessary to have ethnic diversity to do quality production. You have competent people ... you can build nice stuff and better yet if mono-ethnic you get to actually enjoy your productivity and prosperity without a bunch of ethnic contention.


    I know that this is your dream vision but it’s kind of nuts. If you really want that kind of mono-ethnic state, there are places in E. Europe that are like that now but I don’t think you’d really want to live in them.
     
    No Jack, you are nuts. I'm sorry. You come from a middle man minority and--despite being an intelligent guy--are simply incapable of viewing the world as it and insist that it really, really, must be better if it is all remade to be comfortable for Jews exploit.

    But essentially all of history debunks you. The rise of Britain debunks you. The rise of France debunks you. The crappiness/unpleasantness of Russia debunks you. The post-war pleasantness of the Nordic countries ... and now their multicultural dystopias debunk you. The rise of the US--its continual struggles with the "legacy of slavery" and now it's multicultural decline debunks you. Japan, Korea debunk you. China kicks the "comparative advantage heavy" India's ass debunks you. Heck even Israel debunks you. The Jews--now with their own nation--are creating a very pleasant prosperous place, with the shitty part being (much like the US) the unresolved multi-ethnic issues.

    All of history stands up and says people really like living with people of the same culture and such one people marry-the-girl-next-door nations--when the people are high IQ and competent--can develop high-trust at national scale and become very, very prosperous and extremely pleasant places to live. Jack, history is a massive debunking of your Jewish middle man minority "diversity" ideology.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Lot, @AnotherDad, @Mr. Anon, @gsjackson

    Agreed. For the past 11 years I’ve spent as much time as I can afford to in Romania, Serbia, the Czech Republic and Poland, and would live over there full-time if I could. Just for the sheer joy of living in a coherent, unified culture. And I’m old enough to remember when the U.S. had one of those in the first 20 years post-WWII. Anyone born before, say, 1965 and with a shred of memory left knows how superior the quality of life was then.

  377. @Art Deco
    @Anonymous

    and the US must stop favoring Jewish supremacists over Palestinian resisters.

    Why? The 'resisters' have no practical objects and very little human capital.

    What's amusing about this is that half the people on this board are, in their stated dispositions, flagrantly unsentimental if not brutal. At the same time another bloc are bleeding hearts for a modest collection of Arabs who do absolutely nothing sensible to ameliorate their situation and whose 'leadership' has on six separate occasions over 50-odd years rejected or sabotaged efforts to improve their situation (because those efforts did not incorporate killing a lot of Jews). And, what's also amusing, is that the flagrantly unsentimental have flat nothing critical to say to the sob sisters. Gives you the idea that the issue is never really the issue.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Joe Schmoe

    Are you dumb? There is no sympathy for the Palestinians here. It is an analogy showing that what Frum suggests is every bit as stupid as favoring the palestinians.

  378. @Hail
    In other Tucker Carlson news, he had Scott Adams on his show tonight.

    In Adams' segment, the two discussed who has more cult-like tendencies, core Trump supporters or Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers. Adams said definitely the latter.

    Now that Scott Adams is in, is Steve Sailer next?

    Replies: @216, @Anonymous, @Polynikes, @AndrewR, @Harry Baldwin, @AnotherDad, @Matra, @Antiwar7

    Scott shows some cult-like tendencies himself about China. Check out starting around 2:38 into this video of his:

  379. @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @istevefan, @schnellandine, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Gaius Gracchus, @Alfa158, @Chet Bradley, @nebulafox, @Bardon Kaldian, @MEH 0910, @Clyde, @Realist, @Tlotsi, @Malcolm X-Lax, @J1234, @The Anti-Gnostic, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @22pp22, @MBB, @imbroglio, @Joe Schmoe, @Bradley

    My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself

    So poor Pakistan is now short another surgeon so that rich Americans can have yet another and increase the disparity of rich over poor.

    We don’t need Pakistani surgeons, but Pakistan does.

  380. @Sherry Khan
    @Gaius Gracchus

    I am an American and so are my husband and Children.
    Who on this earth are you to tell me about where I should move?
    Racist and Disgusting what you just said

    Replies: @SFG, @ThreeCranes, @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @William Badwhite, @OilcanFloyd, @J.Ross, @Gaius Gracchus, @Daniel Chieh, @Kylie, @Joe Schmoe

    obviously you think it is fine and dandy for your husband to move himself to a foreign country, so, you and your kids can try it out and see how wonderful it is to move to a foreign country. It will be fun! You will love it! And none of those disgusting racist Americans! It will be so totally awesome! You should totally do it. Pakistan is practically paradise compared to having to live among so many whites.

  381. @Jesse
    @Anonymous

    Oh. My. GOD. Who the hell cares?

    The criticism that the pro Israel side is sublimating their love of race on a tiny rat hole in the ME has some validity.

    But so does the other side. There is literally no reason to side with a bunch of random Muslims (who, BTW, are doing to us what they whine about the Israelis doing to them) other than cowardice. You're angry at the Jewish elites in the West, but too terrified of them to go after them directly. So you sublimate it on a conflict that has nothing to do with you.

    (And don't give me that bull about "all that money" going to Israel. The US subsidizes and takes orders from many, many countries and groups. Somehow, none of them stir up this level of rage. Somehow.)

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd, @nebulafox, @Anon, @Joe Schmoe

    There is literally no reason to side with a bunch of random Muslims

    No kidding.

    there is also no reason to side with a bunch of random losers and some tech workers from around the world against the country that has been very good to Jews. The folks who founded America owed Jews nothing, yet gave them a decent deal despite their being of a different religion, etc. Most Jews are regular nice people and good citizens. We all like them, but some of the scum in media and academia, celebrities etc., do promote anti white Christian policies.

  382. Anon[411] • Disclaimer says:

    The capital of the multinational racist State has always been in Tel Aviv. Obviously.

    I’d be the house that David Frum has a passport that allows him residence in Tel Aviv anytime that he chooses.

    In contrast, I can’t readily acquire a Russian passport if I wanted one. Though, I doubt that there are many of my particular genetic tribe there. David can go to Moscow of Paris and meet hundreds of thousands of his, most with a strong genetic link to one another.

    Social justice will be when all good people are no longer forced to share a nationality with the likes of eternal subversives and supremacist religious / racial propagandists like David Frum.

    How does the Axis of Evil guy, or any of the guys who pushed for the Iraq invasion, still have jobs and influence anyway?

    That they put their most disgraced and embarrassing subversives in visible jobs may be evidence of how little they think of their targets.

  383. Frum is just coming out and saying this is whites vs. jews and their golems. This is now part of mainstream discourse.

  384. Jewish media in the last few days has been making a concerted push to bring up the subject of a RaHoWa type civil war in America being a real danger. That’s the larger context that Frum’s comments are coming in. The ADL has been hitting this, the Atlantic has been hitting this. It shows how scared they are. The groypers scare the [email protected]#$ out of them because they can see it’s not just a few nuts, but a broader shift of young conservatives to alt-right thinking. From Frum’s twitter:

    America is at a crossroads, and @TheAtlantic's special December issue is a deep dive on how we move forward. Join @CaitlinPacific, @TomJunod @JeffreyGoldberg and @AdamSerwer in conversation @92Y Wed, Dec 11, 7:30 pm. Tix:https://t.co/rh2ljOGcON pic.twitter.com/NCUVe6VeD5— 92nd Street Y (@92Y) November 25, 2019

  385. @BenKenobi
    @songbird

    I was very much looking forward to Trumpocalypse Now. To have Him out there, operating without any decent restraint. Totally beyond the pale of acceptable human conduct. With His magapede army, who worship Him as a God, and follow any order no matter how ridiculous.

    "I watched America crawling on the edge of a straight razor. And believe me, that's my dream folks. Maybe it's even my nightmare. You never know. Crawling on the edge of a straight razor, and surviving. Because I'm a survivor folks, nobody better survives better than me, believe me."

    Replies: @Bill B., @Jack Henson, @Tex, @Sam Malone, @Sam Malone

    ha!!

  386. @BenKenobi
    @songbird

    I was very much looking forward to Trumpocalypse Now. To have Him out there, operating without any decent restraint. Totally beyond the pale of acceptable human conduct. With His magapede army, who worship Him as a God, and follow any order no matter how ridiculous.

    "I watched America crawling on the edge of a straight razor. And believe me, that's my dream folks. Maybe it's even my nightmare. You never know. Crawling on the edge of a straight razor, and surviving. Because I'm a survivor folks, nobody better survives better than me, believe me."

    Replies: @Bill B., @Jack Henson, @Tex, @Sam Malone, @Sam Malone

    very funny! I want to see that movie.

  387. @Jesse
    @Lot

    Great. Now talk about restricting the vote based on race. You wouldn't dare.

    This, folks, is why the far right will never win. It's full of white men talking smack about women as a way of avoiding talking about racial issues, and expecting praise for their bravery.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @kihowi, @AnotherDad, @Alden

    I’ve noticed that. I, a woman is the only person who consistently and constantly writes about the thing most detrimental to our race; affirmative action.

    The men just rant about hair color, feminazis obesity tattoos. They blame all our problems on the feminazis who suddenly appeared about 1972 instead of the White male judges presidents Vice Presidents congress critter’s senators activists and attorneys who effected the judicial rulings and laws that are destroying us.

    1956 Brown vs Topeka followed by numerous school bussing judicial orders.

    1961, Kennedy’s affirmative action EO 10925,

    1964 civil rights act,

    1965 unlimited non White immigration act

    1967 affirmative action Philadelphia Plan

    1968 affirmative action federal law

    1968 EEOC gestapo agency to enforce the No Whites Need Apply Law.

    197o Nixon creates the affirmative action Hispanic race by executive order

    1973, the abominable Griggs vs Duke Power affirmative action judicial decision

    That’s it, in 17 years White men, both Republicans and Democrats created the laws and court orders that destroyed the White race in America.

    And the ignoramuses blame it all on the feminazi front groups of the Ford and Rockefeller Foundations. Ford Foundation run by White men at the time funded and created MALDEF Mex America Legal Foundation to pursue the same type of lawsuits NAACP ADL AJC ACLU pursued on behalf of blacks

    The mopping up operation was

    1975 O’Connor vs Donaldson all 9 White male Supreme Court justices ordered every mental hospital in the country closed down.

    1979. Kaiser vs Weber more affirmative action by an all White male Supreme Court

    And the men on this site blame the White male Ford and Rockefeller Foundation’s feminazi front groups who appeared out of nowhere around 1972.

    And they think the White race can be saved if White women conceive and raise more White children with no help from White men.

    Look at what they did to us when we were about 87 percent of the population.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Alden

    Fair enough. What is your plan?

  388. @Prof. Woland
    @Prof. Woland

    One other thing ... Russians have a much greater awareness of their own ethnicity and are in-grouped which means they can see right through Jews unlike American whites making them much more threatening to (((certain))) people that don't exist as an ethnic group and are really just regular people like everybody else. All the more reason to destroy them totally both here and there.

    Putin's neutering of the Jewish Oligarchs when he came to power has not been forgotten by their fellow travelers including Soros and his ilk. It fouled up their plans to have their way with the Russians including breaking the country apart and looting it. Putin saved Russia from a catastrophe and he is hated for it; by all the right people of course.

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow, @Dmitry

    It’s true that Putin has stabilized the cultural and economic situation.

    Lol in relation Jews – normally, criticism of Putin on this particular topic, is precisely the opposite: that Putin loves too much Jewish billionaires, and his Jewish friends co-incidentally became billionaires, after Putin became president.

    It’s funny what you read comment on this website, is often inverse to a “normal view” – or a “normal antisemitic view” (note – I do not support such views or consider them “normal”, but use “normal view” to refer to the common position of people who dislike Jews).

    In Russia, if people particularly dislike Jews, then will often start writing conspiracy theories about Putin, as a personal eccentricity of Putin is how he is more philosemitic than most Jews are.

    I don’t think any other world leader hosts Keren Hayesod charity events, and supports Jewish charities for fighting against xenophobia/historical revisionism. I don’t think Merkel or Macron, or any other European leader has such a good relationship with the Jewish community.

  389. @eah
    OT

    Dem-Controlled School District Adopts SJW-Backed Busing Plan Despite Widespread Opposition

    "The redistricting plan based on ‘equity’ came out of left field and is clearly an idea which came from outside the county. Even the board members who were very much ‘for’ the plan cited how the ‘country was watching’ — which just goes to show they were more interested in their own headlines than the lives of our county’s school children." ...

    As the reporters pointed out, it appears this is yet another example of crusading white SJWs patronizing minorities and the indigent.
     
    Quote from the video: "What it comes down to is a moral mandate about equity and race."

    Replies: @El Dato, @Daniel H, @Alden

    I read the link, Soros Foundation strikes again.,

    Brown vs Topeka was funded by the American Jewish Committee and ADL The plaintiff, Esther Brown was not a black child or the black parent of a child who wanted to attend a White school.

    Esther Brown was an adult Jewish attorney. How she had standing to be plaintiff is beyond me. Most of the attorneys on the plaintiff side except for the well rehearsed actor, Thurgood Marshall were Jews.

    1956 2019 jews jews jews

    The parents could try a recall vote. But of course the parents have jobs. The Soros operatives job is destroying Whites.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Alden

    There were a dozen plaintiffs, of whom the one whose name was on the suit was one Oliver Brown, a black wage-earner whose daughter was enrolled in the local negro schools. The legal work was done by the NAACP's chief counsel, Thurgood Marshall.

    https://brownvboard.org/content/brown-case-brown-v-board

  390. There must be something persuasive in the theory about LSD in the water supply for anyone to write this.

    Russia has over 150 local nationalities, so multinational is the correct description of what Moscow is capital city of – for better or worse.

    Evidence of Trump’s attachment to Russia? – so far, Trump has achieved in improving Russia-America relations, has been imposing more economic sanctions against Russia’s economy.

    It’s true that Russian television – and some clown politicians like Zhirinovsky – have told everyone that Trump would improve relations, and celebrated his election. However, in 2008, television in Russia was exactly the same with Obama, and celebrated when Obama won the election.

    I recall how journalists and media in Russia and television, positively reported about how great Obama is in 2008, what a talented man, and how he would improve world relations. (It’s a trivial and uninformative pattern of infantile optimism of Russian media, about an alleged improvement in Russian-America relations, every 8 years when there is a new president).

  391. @Sherry Khan
    @Athletic and Whitesplosive

    You can't do anything.
    We are here to stay and don't forget you and your progeny will be and should be persecuted and dispossessed for behaving like this.
    Trump will lose so badly that it will send a shiver down the spine of you and your Nazi colleagues.
    It's payback time.
    Let's see who wins: Trashy Whites like you who behave like bigots or progressives like me who embrace multiculturalism.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Johann Ricke, @Ozymandias, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

    It’s payback time.

  392. @Realist
    @Sherry Khan


    I, as a mother of mixed race children don’t want them to live under a “Nazi style regime” that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive.
     
    That explains a lot...not all Whites are intelligent.

    My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing “Privileged White Guy”.
     
    My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan and my grandparents who immigrated from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing “Privileged White Guy”

    FIFY

    First a Norwegian that would marry a Swede is suspect.
    And second Carlson does not wear a bow tie.

    Replies: @Alden

    If she’s raising 4 kids she was probably born after 1980. Scandinavians her grandparents age didn’t immigrate because of the socialist benefits of the Scandinavian countries made immigration unnecessary.

    And come to think of it, Swedes and Norwegians tended to live in their separate enclaves. A good marriage he got a green card, she got a Dr. If he is a Dr. if he is Pakistani.

    Maybe she’s thinking of Princess Diana and her Pakistani Dr. or Jemima Goldsmith and Imren Khan.

    • Replies: @Realist
    @Alden


    And come to think of it, Swedes and Norwegians tended to live in their separate enclaves.

     

    Consider the aphorism: Ten thousands Swedes ran through the weeds...chased by one Norwegian.
  393. The question of our times seems readily to boil down to “Do You believe in reality or not?”

    The left have an everlasting hold on the common folks imagination, by promising us a just and equitable future for everyone, in ‘the next 15 years’.
    The right can only promise you the freedom to do ‘whatever the hell you want to do’. This does not appeal to women.

    The reality is; there are no human caused catastrophic climate change, women are not oppressed in the workforce, white nationalism is a figment of a vile imagination.

  394. @Jack D
    @Dissident

    It doesn't work at all, IMHO, because it's a stupid joke.


    I don't know," replies the waiter. "I ask in kitchen." So the waiter goes to the kitchen, then comes back. "Solly. No Chinese Jews," he says. "What?" says one of the men. "No Chinese Jews at all?" "Solly," repeats the waiter. "We got olange Jews, apple Jews, but no Chinese Jews."

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Dissident

    It doesn’t work at all, IMHO, because it’s a stupid joke.

    I won’t dispute that.

    Note that I mentioned the joke only because I was reminded of it by Reg’s “non-Jew/Nanzhou” pun.

  395. @Colin Wright
    @Stan Adams

    'I’m a goy, but I spend a lot of time around Jews. I’ve been considering starting up a new advice column called “Ask Bubbe.”'

    When you start the column, be sure and post the link.

    ...and be sure you download everything you write. You'll lose it otherwise.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    I wrote the book on digital hoarding.

  396. @Mr. Anon
    @AnotherDad

    You angered Art Deco. Be careful.............he might revoke your library card.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Sick burn.

  397. @Anonymous
    @J.Ross


    We can have multiple ethnies and we can set rules,
     
    What kind of rules are you talking about?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    I actually ran out of smug anime girls and had to let this little brother in.
    https://postimg.cc/ns1x4Gft

  398. @Alden
    @eah

    I read the link, Soros Foundation strikes again.,

    Brown vs Topeka was funded by the American Jewish Committee and ADL The plaintiff, Esther Brown was not a black child or the black parent of a child who wanted to attend a White school.

    Esther Brown was an adult Jewish attorney. How she had standing to be plaintiff is beyond me. Most of the attorneys on the plaintiff side except for the well rehearsed actor, Thurgood Marshall were Jews.

    1956 2019 jews jews jews

    The parents could try a recall vote. But of course the parents have jobs. The Soros operatives job is destroying Whites.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    There were a dozen plaintiffs, of whom the one whose name was on the suit was one Oliver Brown, a black wage-earner whose daughter was enrolled in the local negro schools. The legal work was done by the NAACP’s chief counsel, Thurgood Marshall.

    https://brownvboard.org/content/brown-case-brown-v-board

  399. @nebulafox
    @Dissident

    >How long would the Zionist State (that has usurped the holy name Israel) last if U.S. support were to cease or even be cut drastically?

    Probably reasonably well. They get along just fine with Russia, India, and China these days, with the first two having governments that are explicitly ideologically sympathetic to the Israeli right-wing, and most of their traditional enemies in the region either are in chaos or have tacit alliances/cold peaces with the Zionist entity. This isn't to say everything is hunky-dory (Iran), but nevertheless, if you told an Israeli strategist in the 1970s that it was possible to get this level of geopolitical security, he'd probably think you'd had too much wine.

    Which raises the question, again, of why they get to have a veto over what we do abroad. I can't recall it ever being a wise move to let foreign nations get to have a say in that. Least of all ones that are among the most high-level intelligence threats you face.

    >How much longer before that happens? Hasn’t support among Americans been decreasing for a while now?

    America's politics are becoming increasingly like Europe's in a lot of ways. As older US Jews die off, expect the Democrats to become more and more explicitly pro-Palestinian based off of the usual anti-colonial rubbish that has already been normative on the European Left for multiple decades. (Which is a big part of why European Jews vote right-wing. Jews over there are viewed as the whitest of all white people. That's how an increasingly Diverse America is going to view Jews, too, whether American Jews want to face up to it or not.) And as the culture of the American right gets increasingly secular, expect support for Israel to not go away, but to take on completely different overtones, based on sympathy for fellow nationalists rather than Dominionist sentiment: and to become a lot more conditional on how much it explicitly benefits America. This is a long-term projection, to say the least, but the hints are already there.

    I don't think US support for Israel is going to halt any time soon, but the relationship is going to change. Neither country is what it was in 1972, and there are still a lot of legacy holdover politicians in Washington who don't seem to understand that.

    Replies: @Dissident

    Thanks for replying.

    They get along just fine with Russia, India, and China these days, with the first two having governments that are explicitly ideologically sympathetic to the Israeli right-wing,

    But would any of those three offer the kind of financial support that the U.S. has been providing?

  400. @Sherry Khan
    Given the kind of Anti Immigrant narrative Carlson promotes on his show , it is no womder that he doesn't give a damn about the poor migrants who work over 75 hours a week. He doesn't believe in spirit of immigration and what made this country great.
    Well, the tide of time is unstoppable. These naive views about America will be wiped away with the demographics that are changing and this shall never stop.
    I, as a mother of mixed race children don't want them to live under a "Nazi style regime" that Donnie and his lackeys are trying to revive. My husband who is a immigrant and a Surgeon from Pakistan himself and my grandparents who immgrayed from Norway and Sweden are what I want my four children to idolize not a bow tie wearing "Privileged White Guy".
    My fellow white people should acknowledge this fact as well.
    Wisconsin won't be voting for this bigot called Trump this time. Believe me.

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    “Nazi style government I would consider to be Sharia law.
    Trump actually did not curtail immigration so you have written nothing but delusion and bigotry .

  401. @Sherry Khan
    @Athletic and Whitesplosive

    You can't do anything.
    We are here to stay and don't forget you and your progeny will be and should be persecuted and dispossessed for behaving like this.
    Trump will lose so badly that it will send a shiver down the spine of you and your Nazi colleagues.
    It's payback time.