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From the New York Times opinion page:

We Disagree on a Lot of Things. Except the Danger of Anti-Critical Race Theory Laws.
July 5, 2021

By Kmele Foster, David French, Jason Stanley and Thomas Chatterton Williams

The authors are a cross-partisan group of thinkers who have written extensively about authoritarianism, liberalism and free speech.

What is the purpose of a liberal education? This is the question at the heart of a bitter debate that has been roiling the nation for months.

Schools, particularly at the kindergarten-to-12th-grade level, are responsible for helping turn students into well-informed and discerning citizens. At their best, our nation’s schools equip young minds to grapple with complexity and navigate our differences. At their worst, they resemble indoctrination factories.

In recent weeks, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Iowa, Idaho and Texas have passed legislation that places significant restrictions on what can be taught in public school classrooms and, in some cases, public universities, too.

Tennessee House Bill SB 0623, for example, bans any teaching that could lead an individual to “feel discomfort, guilt, anguish or another form of psychological distress solely because of the individual’s race or sex.” In addition to this vague proscription, it restricts teaching that leads to “division between, or resentment of, a race, sex, religion, creed, nonviolent political affiliation, social class or class of people.”

… It is because of these differences that we here join, as we are united in one overarching concern: the danger posed by these laws to liberal education.

The laws differ in some respects but generally agree on blocking any teaching that would lead students to feel discomfort, guilt or anguish because of one’s race or ancestry, as well as restricting teaching that subsequent generations have any kind of historical responsibility for actions of previous generations.

In contrast to fragile white children who can’t stand the slightest criticism of their race, schools have ordered several million copies of Charles Murray’s new book Facing Reality: Two Truths About Race in America as an assigned text that all high school seniors will be reading in August. As we all know, blacks are famously fair-minded and rugged about open intellectual debate, which is why you never ever read op-eds in the New York Times by blacks complaining about trivial slights or children touching their hair.

They attempt various carve outs for the impartial teaching of the history of oppression of groups. But it’s hard to see how these attempts are at all consistent with demands to avoid discomfort. These measures would, by way of comparison, make Germany’s uncompromising and successful approach to teaching about the Holocaust illegal, as part of its goal is to infuse them with some sense of the weight of the past and (famously) lead many German students to feel anguish about their ancestry.

Likewise, what school district doesn’t mandate a class on how black criminals destroyed American big cities in order to instill guilt and better behavior in blacks and to teach white children that they must never forget and never again acquiesce to the criminal violence that drove their ancestors into suburban exile from their once great cities?

… What’s more, these laws even make it difficult to teach U.S. history in a way that would reveal well-documented ways in which past policy decisions, like redlining, have contributed to present-day racial wealth gaps.

In contrast, while you never hear about redlining, countless school districts mandate a week of instruction on how George W. Bush’s Increasing Minority Homeownership diversity push set off the Housing Bubble and Bust of 2008.

An education of this sort would be negligent, creating ignorant citizens who are unable to understand, for instance, the case for reparations — or the case against them.

But mostly the case for reparations. After all, we shall never have equity as long as whites have more home equity than blacks.

Because these laws often aim to protect the feelings of hypothetical children, they are dangerously imprecise. State governments exercise a high degree of lawful control over K-12 curriculum. But broad, vague laws violate due process and fundamental fairness because they don’t give the teachers fair warning of what’s prohibited.

In contrast, who has ever heard of a white getting canceled for some minor violation of state-of-the-art prescribed jargon about race? That never happens.

 
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  1. It’s not complex. It starts with humility to recognize the disparities are not only real, but institutionalized. What people find hard is relinquishing control of the process. **That’s** been the obstacle to equality; but reconstruction while it lasted didn’t see whites lynched.

    The most difficult decision for whites is to invite blacks into places of power. Do that in humility and “complex* issues dissolve; that is unless the object of power is still to control distribution of the wealth/resources kn of the country.

    there’s no evidence that blacks will reciprocate the efforts white christian america has invested in opposing power sharing. It’s easy to take the steps, but only if whites will humble themselves and trust a system they broke.

    a very practical reason is if you want end the fear you’re equating with power sharing right now or continue to live in fear by perpetuating violence against blacks in order to maintain your privilege. Your choice.

    Would you accept your situation if the roles were reversed?

    How would you know unless we tried it. We have one historical precedent (reconstruction) and *whites* ended it through violence.

    Whites have had sole custody of the country and done poorly in social justice, …

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Peter Sellers

    You possess the usual Tiny Duck pattern of illiteracy. And Duck, whatever happened to that VerySmartBrothas.com website you used to promote, send love to? That Leon Pitz guy too?

    Replies: @Alfa158

    , @Gaspar DeLaFunk
    @Peter Sellers

    I will continue to perpetuate violence against blacks to maintain my privilege!! Na na na na na!!

    , @joe862
    @Peter Sellers

    Non-whites control large chunks of the country and have for a while. Look at most big cities - majority minority for decades. Many are run by blacks and yet none of the problems have been solved. Also, there are many non-white countries, look at a globe. South America and Africa are chock full of countries run and populated by non-whites. If whites were so terrible we'd be all by ourselves by now. All of the righteous, wonderful non-whites would've gone someplace else. Instead, they're forever pouring in.

    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Peter Sellers

    Das rite. Luv the children. Fill up the planes with a bunch of airport miscreants. Luv ya brother and put him in the pilot's seat. Luv ya sista and hand her the microphone in the airport control tower on a busy foggy night.

    And pray for the people living in the projects two miles from the end of the runway.

    Replies: @Clyde

    , @JEG
    @Peter Sellers

    The current situation, in which whites, especially white men, are blamed for everything, cannot continue. The pendulum has gone too far in an anti-white direction. If the pendulum doesn't come back more in the middle, the white backlash is going to grow and grow.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Alden, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    , @Rosie
    @Peter Sellers


    How would you know unless we tried it. We have one historical precedent (reconstruction) and *whites* ended it through violence.
     
    Are you forgetting about the "New South Africa"?
    , @AnotherDad
    @Peter Sellers


    It’s not complex. It starts with humility to recognize the disparities are not only real, but institutionalized. What people find hard is relinquishing control of the process.
     
    I hit the "troll" button cause that's--i assume--what's going on here. "Peter Sellers".

    But this minoritarian verbiage (above) is always annoying.

    It, of course, is not complex. But while "relinquishing control" is an obvious disaster for any people/culture/nation, there is an easy/fair/decent way to figure out what's causing the "disparities" and to address them--separation.

    Minorities go run their own stuff. What you see is what you get.
    , @Bill
    @Peter Sellers


    What people find hard is relinquishing control of the process. **That’s** been the obstacle to equality; but reconstruction while it lasted didn’t see whites lynched.
     
    It's a nice troll, but the fact is that most Americans do not know what Reconstruction was like. The disorder, the corruption, the violence directed against whites. The North gave up on it because it was so intolerable that Southern whites had started to take up arms to fight a guerilla war against their occupiers. That's what the first KKK was all about. Obviously, this whole history has been retconned out of existence, replaced by whites rebelling against Reconstruction for no particular reason, you know, except for their inherent evil.
    , @Alden
    @Peter Sellers

    What are you babbling about?

    , @PhysicistDave
    @Peter Sellers

    Peter Sellers asked:


    Would you accept your situation if the roles were reversed?
     
    Well... my kids had test scores higher than the median for kids admitted to Stanford, Hahvahd, etc.

    If they had been Blacks, they would have been shoo-ins.

    But since they were half-Asian, half-Caucasian...

    Yeah, I would switch positions in a heartbeat with African-Americans!

    But, being a well-behaved civic nationalist, I am willing to settle simply for equal justice under the law.

    Perhaps you have heard of that concept?

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Alden, @The Anti-Gnostic

  2. They don’t call him Vichy French for nothing.

    • Replies: @Gaspar DeLaFunk
    @kaganovitch

    He is such a turd.

    Replies: @anon

    , @Bugg
    @kaganovitch

    The Future for our goodwhites; David French being reamed in the keister by a large section 8 welfare recipient, forever.

    Replies: @Clyde

    , @Ragno
    @kaganovitch

    Touche!

  3. Anon[318] • Disclaimer says:

    This is so funny. The right in this case has adopted a pure Seth Alinsky approach, and it’s infuriating the woke.

    “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”

    If avoiding anything that upsets people is forbidden, as “actual violence,” well that includes this CRT stuff, not just stuff that college students and New York Times junior journalists freak out about.

    “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

    Alinsky was referring to the arbitrary selection of a person as the target to be Hitlerized, but it also works for concepts. Is CRT really what the right opposes? What the hell is CRT? Who cares; it’s driving the left crazy to be mentioning it, so keep mentioning it, and expand its meaning so it encompasses everything we hate. (And remember how Donald Trump coopted the left’s “fake news” trope in late summer 2016 and completely destroyed it as a tool for the left?)

    And finally, a David Mamet rule: “Don’t bring a knife to a gunfight.” Is outlawing CRT by statute given overboard? Who cares. In fact, bring on the Contitutional amendment.

    • Thanks: Anonymous Jew
    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Anon

    Yeah, but Alinsky's rules only work on people who let them work on them (i.e. guilt ridden, soft modern White people).

    Groids don't give a schitt when YT nervously clears his throat and humbly points out the unfairness or dishonesty of any lib/groid position. They double down. YT's the one that folds like an accordion every time. If the other side doesn't play by any rules but their own, what good are your rules?

    French looks like an albino anteater. He's a literal cuck. Not surprised that he sides with our enemies.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon


    What the hell is CRT?
     
    And why does the county landfill refuse to take them? We have to pay a specialist to get rid of them.
    , @Hi There
    @Anon


    Is outlawing CRT by statute given overboard? Who cares.
     
    I care. I care about being ethical and principled.

    The idea that anti-CRT types have some moral obligation to forfeit any political voice in how their tax dollars are spent or how their children are educated is absurd.

    It's entirely ethical for people to use government and laws to express their preferences in public schools that are run entirely by government and laws.

    It would be overboard to ban people from writing books on CRT on their own time. No one is seriously considering that and they shouldn't.

    The anti-CRT crowd genuinely have the moral high ground. They should understand that moral high ground, keep that moral high ground, and use that moral high ground to fight hard and win.
  4. I think it was Richard Hanania who tweeted censoring CRT would be acknowledging its power as an idea, as in a mistake.
    That’s silly. This isn’t Galileo’s telescope–or Charles Murray’s recent book. And the powerful keep acknowledging the power of of his and others’ words, daily with their censorship, and being called out on it; it makes no difference. The “power” of ideas is meaningless. The power of the megaphone is all.
    It’s distressing so many still want to half-measure the fight, humoring their premises about “racism” and other hokum.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Dennis Dale

    https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1412178559116800002
    https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1412180540447330314

    https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1412255959045468171

    Replies: @ic1000

    , @sayless
    @Dennis Dale

    The kids are being damaged right now. Richard Hanania is wrong.

    , @MEH 0910
    @Dennis Dale

    https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1414906480029945857
    https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1415352856534605825

  5. These measures would, by way of comparison, make Germany’s uncompromising and successful approach to teaching about the Holocaust illegal, as part of its goal is to infuse them with some sense of the weight of the past and (famously) lead many German students to feel anguish about their ancestry.

    To the point they are either abolishing themselves or else planning a last stand and playing it for keeps this time.

    Because these laws often aim to protect the feelings of hypothetical children, they are dangerously imprecise.

    More and more hypothetical children I imagine.

    • Replies: @Reactive Reaction
    @El Dato

    "and (famously) lead many German students to feel anguish about their ancestry"

    Anguish about their ancestry? That's a crime against humanity.

    And, not for nothing, it violates the prime directive of liberal democracy, which is, you are an individual, part of the great mass of humanity, author of your own life, no unchosen affiliations or identities, subservient to Amazon, Google, Apple, and Facebook, but able to sing the world anthem on New Year's Eve: "imagine there's no countries, it isn't hard to do, nothing to kill or die for, and no religion, too".

    , @jamie b.
    @El Dato


    ...or else planning a last stand and playing it for keeps this time.
     
    What do you mean by that?
  6. What a tool Frenchie turned out to be. Jamoke was a big shot at The National Review until 2019 — https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/farewell/ – And major anti-Trumper.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Clyde

    What a tool Frenchie turned out to be.

    He was Bill Kristol's favored presidential candidate. Tells you everything you need to know.

    Replies: @Barnard, @War for Blair Mountain

    , @Corn
    @Clyde

    David French’s photo should be in the dictionary next to the entry for “controlled opposition”.

    Replies: @Clyde

  7. At their best, our nation’s schools equip young minds to grapple with complexity and navigate our differences.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Voltarde

    The above pix is what I thought my tour in the USCG would look like. Instead: handcuffs on losers, mouth-to-mouth on losers, and fishing a loser corpse out of the drink. Although, if the above was on offer I'd probably end up a pirate.

  8. @Peter Sellers
    It's not complex. It starts with humility to recognize the disparities are not only real, but institutionalized. What people find hard is relinquishing control of the process. **That's** been the obstacle to equality; but reconstruction while it lasted didn't see whites lynched.

    The most difficult decision for whites is to invite blacks into places of power. Do that in humility and "complex* issues dissolve; that is unless the object of power is still to control distribution of the wealth/resources kn of the country.

    there's no evidence that blacks will reciprocate the efforts white christian america has invested in opposing power sharing. It's easy to take the steps, but only if whites will humble themselves and trust a system they broke.

    a very practical reason is if you want end the fear you're equating with power sharing right now or continue to live in fear by perpetuating violence against blacks in order to maintain your privilege. Your choice.

    Would you accept your situation if the roles were reversed?

    How would you know unless we tried it. We have one historical precedent (reconstruction) and *whites* ended it through violence.

    Whites have had sole custody of the country and done poorly in social justice, ...

    Replies: @Clyde, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @joe862, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @JEG, @Rosie, @AnotherDad, @Bill, @Alden, @PhysicistDave

    You possess the usual Tiny Duck pattern of illiteracy. And Duck, whatever happened to that VerySmartBrothas.com website you used to promote, send love to? That Leon Pitz guy too?

    • LOL: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Clyde

    Deliberately so, Duck is usually pretty good about inserting carefully crafted illiteracy as a way of letting us know it is him, and that we’re supposed to laugh at the ineptness of the Woke.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

  9. @Clyde
    What a tool Frenchie turned out to be. Jamoke was a big shot at The National Review until 2019 -- https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/farewell/ - And major anti-Trumper.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Corn

    What a tool Frenchie turned out to be.

    He was Bill Kristol’s favored presidential candidate. Tells you everything you need to know.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @kaganovitch

    Plus he took the idea seriously and spent two days thinking about running and believed he would win. Based on comments he made after the election he thought Evan McMullin blew a golden opportunity.

    , @War for Blair Mountain
    @kaganovitch

    I’ll betcha NAMBLA is very found of David French also…

  10. @kaganovitch
    They don't call him Vichy French for nothing.

    Replies: @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Bugg, @Ragno

    He is such a turd.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Gaspar DeLaFunk


    He is such a turd.
     
    Well, that's sure to convince anyone not already convinced.

    But thanks, all the same, for such a quality contribution to the discussion.
  11. @Peter Sellers
    It's not complex. It starts with humility to recognize the disparities are not only real, but institutionalized. What people find hard is relinquishing control of the process. **That's** been the obstacle to equality; but reconstruction while it lasted didn't see whites lynched.

    The most difficult decision for whites is to invite blacks into places of power. Do that in humility and "complex* issues dissolve; that is unless the object of power is still to control distribution of the wealth/resources kn of the country.

    there's no evidence that blacks will reciprocate the efforts white christian america has invested in opposing power sharing. It's easy to take the steps, but only if whites will humble themselves and trust a system they broke.

    a very practical reason is if you want end the fear you're equating with power sharing right now or continue to live in fear by perpetuating violence against blacks in order to maintain your privilege. Your choice.

    Would you accept your situation if the roles were reversed?

    How would you know unless we tried it. We have one historical precedent (reconstruction) and *whites* ended it through violence.

    Whites have had sole custody of the country and done poorly in social justice, ...

    Replies: @Clyde, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @joe862, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @JEG, @Rosie, @AnotherDad, @Bill, @Alden, @PhysicistDave

    I will continue to perpetuate violence against blacks to maintain my privilege!! Na na na na na!!

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
  12. The authors are a cross-partisan group of thinkers

    Both parties? Well, that’s everyone, right? Everyone that matters I mean.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Hangnail Hans

    "Well, that's everyone, right?"

    Enough of the ankle-biting left-right ideologues. Time for some new ways.

  13. French is the dweeb-cuck with a melanoid son. You can’t make this shite up.

    • Agree: 3g4me, American Citizen
    • Thanks: Nicholas Stix
    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Sick of Orcs

    David French used to say he lived in Columbia, Tennessee. Actually, he lived south of Columbia in a rural area called Zion. It had become a Rich People neighborhood with a private Christian school used by people keeping their children out of the Columbia city schools.

    Around 2016 (the year Bill Kristol urged French to run for President) I tried to find somebody in Columbia who knew David French, so as to possibly meet him. Nobody had ever heard of him.

    The local paper ran a feature story on French after he "withdrew" from the presidential race. I learned his maternal grandfather, Charles David Black, was the principal of the elementary school I attended when I was in the first and second grade. Mr. Black (as we called him) left for a junior high school after my second grade year.

    Mr. Black didn't resemble his grandson. He was then in his early 40s with a full head of dark hair and a stern manner. respected (and feared) by students. I have a vivid memory of an encounter with him at age six.

    A few years later, French moved to an upscale neighborhood in Franklin. In his columns he inferred his attacks on Trump ("I live in Trump country," he wrote) and his voters in his NRO columns upset his neighbors "forcing" him to move.

  14. I wonder how Frenchie would react if school curriculums started teaching Critical Economic Theory? Part of it being you have to pay a 70% rate on your investments, part of which would pay reparations?

  15. @Dennis Dale
    I think it was Richard Hanania who tweeted censoring CRT would be acknowledging its power as an idea, as in a mistake.
    That's silly. This isn't Galileo's telescope--or Charles Murray's recent book. And the powerful keep acknowledging the power of of his and others' words, daily with their censorship, and being called out on it; it makes no difference. The "power" of ideas is meaningless. The power of the megaphone is all.
    It's distressing so many still want to half-measure the fight, humoring their premises about "racism" and other hokum.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @sayless, @MEH 0910


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    • Replies: @ic1000
    @MEH 0910

    I recommend that Foster, French, Stanley, and Williams do as I did, and attend a school-sponsored Book Club discussion of an elite-endorsed NYT Best-Seller on race.

    In my case, about twenty parents and ten teachers -- a few Black! -- gathered at the high school when Ta-Nahesi Coates' Between The World And Me was flying off the shelves.

    Such Diversity. Some praised TNC for his bravery, some for his writing style, some for his searing account of suffering, and some for his devotion to his son.

    A single participant pointed out that TNC must have based the book's closing curse of American whites on the form and rhetoric of Puritan preachers. His consignment of whites to damnation for their sinfulness against Nature (and also Black people) was a bit jarring -- this was to be the recipe for improved race relations?

    The other 29 people concurred that only a Black hero of TNC's moral and intellectual stature could have delivered such a rousing condemnation, which would doubtlessly inspire repentance by badwhites throughout the country.

    David French and his colleagues would be humbled and inspired by the intellectualism and fearless exchange of ideas that these gatherings promote. NEA-sponsored classroom curricula on the Great Books of The Current Year -- White Fragility and How To Be An Anti-Racist -- no better way to promote viewpoint diversity. Also, Courageous Conversations.

  16. It’s my observation that when white parents adopt a child of another race, their political views tend to move toward those that they see as in the interest of their children’s race rather than their own. Even if those were the views that motivated them to adopt a child of another race in the first place, they become more pronounced. It’s why I’m dubious that we can count on “conservative” Justice Amy Coney Barrett for much.

    David French is an extreme example of this. As a virulent anti-Trumper, his having adopted a black daughter was used by trolls to attack him. As indicated in his NYT piece, he now endorses Critical Race Theory; it’s not that he thinks it needs to be openly debated, he flat out endorses it.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Harry Baldwin

    David French's admonishments to his wife when he was deployed to Iraq are hilarious. He is the very definition of "cuckservative."

    , @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @Harry Baldwin

    This is more pronounced when whites have non-white children. 10% of whites have children who are not white. These whites become politically anti-white and often identify as the race if their children, like Jeb Bush who identified as Hispanic on government forms.

    , @3g4me
    @Harry Baldwin

    @16 Harry Baldwin: Their political/social beliefs don't alter in what they perceive to be in the interests of "their" non-White child. It's just a form of extreme virtue signaling, like the non-White adoption itself. French's natural-born White children will either adopt the same attitude, to the point of pretending to be black themselves or marrying a black, or one of them might be honest enough to denounce his father's obsession with his portable status symbol.

    Adoption itself can be a harrowing process. Outcomes vary tremendously, because the adopting parents are often psychologically unbalanced (woman desperate for a kid, man with mixed feelings about raising someone else's child). Most are convinced environment is everything and that their 'love' is all that is necessary for a successful outcome. Genetics will out, of course, and while this creates its own difficulties with any adoption, interracial adoption adds a distinct tang - plus more than a whiff of impulsiveness and violence - often directed at any of the couple's natural born, White children.

    These people are not wonderfully charitable or loving; they are dangerously deluded and evolutionarily unfit. Classic spiteful mutants.

    , @Nicholas Stix
    @Harry Baldwin

    Richard Hanania: “...anti-communism was routinely used as a pretext to attack the Civil Rights Movement, and to bolster apartheid in South Africa. History!”

    But the so-called civil rights movement was the greatest communist front ever, and White-run apartheid in South Africa was a utopia, compared to the genocidal black supremacism which succeeded it. History, indeed.

    As for the French, cheese-eating, surrender monkey, long after the Trayvon Martin Hoax had been exposed, he wrote a long, sophistic apologia on behalf of the racist, would-be murderer Martin, and for the sought-after lynching of White-enough George Zimmerman (GOPers Rich Lowry and David Frum did likewise). Note, too, that although French and his wife have adopted a black child, they’re always careful to live only in the most exclusive, lily-White neighborhoods, where their Ethiopian-born daughter is the only black face living there (with the possible exception of black live-ins).

    As for the notion that decorated war hero (though he never saw combat) David French is a “conservative,” he is—as per the new york times’ definition.

    Back during the 1990s, when I was a frequent times reader, and the daily would occasionally run my letters to the editor, it would sometimes run a house editorial proclaiming that a “real conservative” was someone who preserved the changes which the Democrat Party had wrought. That is the sort of “conservative” that David French is.

    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2013/03/at-commentary-french-cheese-eating.html

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @The Anti-Gnostic

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Harry Baldwin


    It’s my observation that when white parents adopt a child of another race, their political views tend to move toward those that they see as in the interest of their children’s race rather than their own.

     

    Only when they adopt black kids. I knew several cases of working class white parents who adopted Koreans (this was a while ago; don't ask me to divulge my age) and this didn't happen. This was back in the days of color-blindism and blank slatism. In the cases I was acquainted with, the adoptions were not without sadness but they mostly worked out. They didn't end up with the dramatic rejections I've read of on the internet.

    Even if those were the views that motivated them to adopt a child of another race in the first place, they become more pronounced. It’s why I’m dubious that we can count on “conservative” Justice Amy Coney Barrett for much.

     

    True. And ACB has turned out to be the cuck we always suspected.

    David French is an extreme example of this. As a virulent anti-Trumper, his having adopted a black daughter was used by trolls to attack him.

     

    Well, yeah, but he pimped his daughter. He did a variety of things that were wrong by any standpoint, such as invading his daughter's privacy, telling her adoption story, and being the most flagrant case of virtue signalling imaginable. That doesn't excuse vulgar trolling, but he set himself up for it.


    As indicated in his NYT piece, he now endorses Critical Race Theory; it’s not that he thinks it needs to be openly debated, he flat out endorses it.
     
    True. And the irony is that until recently, his daughter's ethnic group didn't even consider themselves black, and ran a slave empire.

    His wife, Nancy, is a real media whore.
    , @Art Deco
    @Harry Baldwin

    Don't think so. He adopted his daughter in 2010. It was 5 or 6 years before he adopted the role of self-appointed hall monitor in the evangelical population. There is a 10th planet there, but I don't think the adoption is it.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

  17. @Harry Baldwin
    It's my observation that when white parents adopt a child of another race, their political views tend to move toward those that they see as in the interest of their children's race rather than their own. Even if those were the views that motivated them to adopt a child of another race in the first place, they become more pronounced. It's why I'm dubious that we can count on "conservative" Justice Amy Coney Barrett for much.

    David French is an extreme example of this. As a virulent anti-Trumper, his having adopted a black daughter was used by trolls to attack him. As indicated in his NYT piece, he now endorses Critical Race Theory; it's not that he thinks it needs to be openly debated, he flat out endorses it.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @3g4me, @Nicholas Stix, @Paperback Writer, @Art Deco

    David French’s admonishments to his wife when he was deployed to Iraq are hilarious. He is the very definition of “cuckservative.”

  18. Plenty of whites were lynched during Reconstruction. They were called “Republicans”, and they deserved it.

    • Disagree: Hibernian
  19. @Peter Sellers
    It's not complex. It starts with humility to recognize the disparities are not only real, but institutionalized. What people find hard is relinquishing control of the process. **That's** been the obstacle to equality; but reconstruction while it lasted didn't see whites lynched.

    The most difficult decision for whites is to invite blacks into places of power. Do that in humility and "complex* issues dissolve; that is unless the object of power is still to control distribution of the wealth/resources kn of the country.

    there's no evidence that blacks will reciprocate the efforts white christian america has invested in opposing power sharing. It's easy to take the steps, but only if whites will humble themselves and trust a system they broke.

    a very practical reason is if you want end the fear you're equating with power sharing right now or continue to live in fear by perpetuating violence against blacks in order to maintain your privilege. Your choice.

    Would you accept your situation if the roles were reversed?

    How would you know unless we tried it. We have one historical precedent (reconstruction) and *whites* ended it through violence.

    Whites have had sole custody of the country and done poorly in social justice, ...

    Replies: @Clyde, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @joe862, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @JEG, @Rosie, @AnotherDad, @Bill, @Alden, @PhysicistDave

    Non-whites control large chunks of the country and have for a while. Look at most big cities – majority minority for decades. Many are run by blacks and yet none of the problems have been solved. Also, there are many non-white countries, look at a globe. South America and Africa are chock full of countries run and populated by non-whites. If whites were so terrible we’d be all by ourselves by now. All of the righteous, wonderful non-whites would’ve gone someplace else. Instead, they’re forever pouring in.

  20. Is there anything that cuckservatives like David French can’t rationalize? How far away are we from “The Conservative Case for Re-educating Whites about their White Privilege in Camps in the Nevada Desert?”

  21. “The authors are a cross-partisan group of thinkers…”

    And presidential candidates! I’m surprised French let that gaffe slip.

    “As we all know, blacks are famously fair-minded and rugged about open intellectual debate, which is why you never ever read op-eds in the New York Times by blacks complaining about trivial slights or children touching their hair.”

    An unfortunate side effect of having remarkably high self esteem.

  22. I don’t like CRT, don’t know who French is or why he’s important enough to merit hate here (even after trying to read his wikipedia page) and I also dislike the examples used in the op-ed.

    That said, while i may think “OMG CRT is so wrong and corrosive it should be illegal”, and i very much think that group differences are explained by HBD differences between groups rather than “systemic racism”, I don’t ACTUALLY think these kinds of laws about what can and can’t be taught should be passed. Free speech and all that.

    Also, as a practical matter, by now everyone here should at least suspect that for the foreseeable future these things would be selectively enforced against the majority / plurality just like the rest of the anti-discriminations laws.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @vhrm

    Again you argue from ignorance.

    Fix. The. Ignorance.

    It's beneath you.

    , @gent
    @vhrm

    Teachers do not have free speech rights in regards to curricula, legislatures and school boards have always set the standards. They are free to ban whatever they please and the teachers have no recourse besides resignation.

    , @Dmon
    @vhrm

    While we all understand that the 1st Amendment exists to curtail private citizens' speech, while allowing government entities unlimited latitude to force-feed state religious dogma to minors, the argument against CRT is based on factual merit. The likes of Grape Nehi Coats maintain that the failure of blacks to achieve their destined Overlordship of the Universe is entirely due to systemic racism. However, to the knowledgeable observer, the real reason is clear: at the summer solstice ceremony at the Altar of George Floyd, the goat sacrificed was two shades of white off from the prescribed value called out in the applicable MIL Standard. I can sympathize with the mistake. Due to inadequate funding, my education was so disadvantaged that they didn’t even teach us to read sheep guts arranged in cursive.

    , @Jefferson Temple
    @vhrm

    Your position is that we parents have to send our children to these schools, pay the property taxes to keep them open, yet have no say as to what the Marxist fuckwits teach them within the limited time constraints of the school day. If you think it's a free speech issue, you are a moron.

    , @Anonymous Jew
    @vhrm

    In some bizarro world I would agree with you, but we’re long past the point of fighting the left with principles. The left gets this and the establishment right still can’t figure it out. The war of ideas is over. This is just war. Principles only work when you’re dealing with people that are willing to play by the rules.

    Sailer makes this clear:


    Likewise, what school district doesn’t mandate a class on how black criminals destroyed American big cities in order to instill guilt and better behavior in blacks and to teach white children that they must never forget and never again acquiesce to the criminal violence that drove their ancestors into suburban exile from their once great cities?
     
    If teachers could say the above freely - the opposite of CRT - you’d have a point. But they can’t. So why should we allow anyone to advocate CRT to 8–year-olds?

    Replies: @vhrm

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @vhrm


    I don’t ACTUALLY think these kinds of laws about what can and can’t be taught should be passed. Free speech and all that.
     
    LOL. Do you know how public school curricula are approved? Hint: It’s not about “free speech”. It’s politically-approved material that lies within an Overton Window that varies regionally. Any teacher ‘going off the res’ with opposing content will be fired immediately.
    , @Anonymous
    @vhrm

    I did wonder what could be the possible audience for that op-ed (French and Monsieur Chatterton aren't actually respected by any living liberals, and their input during the past 2 years of collective utter sewage has been entirely bandwagon at best and possibly null) when I saw it over the weekend. I guess now I know, the audience was you.

    , @Bill Jones
    @vhrm

    You seem to be in need of an IQ transplant.

    , @Getaclue
    @vhrm

    You are clueless as to how School Teachers are regulated -- you never heard of a "Lesson Plan"? What is taught in Schools is highly regulated and overseen -- they just want a Racist Hate YT Agenda taught -- there will be "Lesson Plans" -- if you taught what Sailer points out as the opposing view you would be asked to show your "Lesson Plan" and then you would be terminated that day....Teaching Racial Hatred to children in school only goes one way -- the Hate YT way.

    , @Hibernian
    @vhrm


    Free speech and all that.
     
    Compelled taxpayer support (redundancy for emphasis) of AFT and NEA teacher speech. FIFY
  23. Reading you is at times like being stuck between warring Tiger Moms and Yiddish Dads arguing over prestige parking spaces at the local public school. The Tiger Mom is standing in the vacant spot waving you away while Yiddish You is berating her for not obeying your cultural orthopraxy.

    Whoever wins this battle of the Titans, it won’t be us and whatever the cost, we will pay.

  24. David French

    Pennywise the Clown

    IT

  25. @MEH 0910
    @Dennis Dale

    https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1412178559116800002
    https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1412180540447330314

    https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1412255959045468171

    Replies: @ic1000

    I recommend that Foster, French, Stanley, and Williams do as I did, and attend a school-sponsored Book Club discussion of an elite-endorsed NYT Best-Seller on race.

    In my case, about twenty parents and ten teachers — a few Black! — gathered at the high school when Ta-Nahesi Coates’ Between The World And Me was flying off the shelves.

    Such Diversity. Some praised TNC for his bravery, some for his writing style, some for his searing account of suffering, and some for his devotion to his son.

    A single participant pointed out that TNC must have based the book’s closing curse of American whites on the form and rhetoric of Puritan preachers. His consignment of whites to damnation for their sinfulness against Nature (and also Black people) was a bit jarring — this was to be the recipe for improved race relations?

    The other 29 people concurred that only a Black hero of TNC’s moral and intellectual stature could have delivered such a rousing condemnation, which would doubtlessly inspire repentance by badwhites throughout the country.

    David French and his colleagues would be humbled and inspired by the intellectualism and fearless exchange of ideas that these gatherings promote. NEA-sponsored classroom curricula on the Great Books of The Current Year — White Fragility and How To Be An Anti-Racist — no better way to promote viewpoint diversity. Also, Courageous Conversations.

    • Thanks: YetAnotherAnon
    • LOL: photondancer
  26. Anti-CRT measures are “restricting teaching that subsequent generations have any kind of historical responsibility for actions of previous generations.”

    So, they’re saying that we should be teaching black children that they bear some responsibility for forcing white people out of their own cities in the Sixties?

  27. I’m constantly amazed that you never have anything aggressive to say or anything retributive or revolutionary to add, why all your posts are impotent non-sequiturs usually somehow offering exculpatory evidence in favour of the colluding class against us.

    What gives, Sailer?

    Why are you so forgiving of those whose legacy for us is destitution?

  28. anon[373] • Disclaimer says:

    The main stream media argues that CRT doesn’t exist, is simply right wing agitation and furthermore basically true as everyone has conceded when apologizing for structural racism, which is only common sense.
    CRT is real and was initially formalized by black law professors. No wonder it just blurts out its highly offensive message.
    Normal people lost the WWT by conceding post modern gibberish about a distinction between sex and gender, and ended up with a protected class who get free cosmetic surgery to disguise their sex, because they cannot be expected to change their feelings about their gender.

  29. Sailer v. French is the intellectual version of Texas v. Rice in football.

  30. @kaganovitch
    They don't call him Vichy French for nothing.

    Replies: @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Bugg, @Ragno

    The Future for our goodwhites; David French being reamed in the keister by a large section 8 welfare recipient, forever.

    • LOL: Clyde
    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Bugg


    The Future for our goodwhites; David French being reamed in the keister by a large section 8 welfare recipient, forever.
     
    Not enough for Frenchie who craves 3rd world abuse. This section 8 dude(s) will have his Timberland boots stamping on Frenchie's face --- *Forever*. Though intermittently.
  31. David Austin French = U R naive, faddish c*nt.

  32. @Anon
    This is so funny. The right in this case has adopted a pure Seth Alinsky approach, and it's infuriating the woke.

    "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."

    If avoiding anything that upsets people is forbidden, as "actual violence," well that includes this CRT stuff, not just stuff that college students and New York Times junior journalists freak out about.

    "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

    Alinsky was referring to the arbitrary selection of a person as the target to be Hitlerized, but it also works for concepts. Is CRT really what the right opposes? What the hell is CRT? Who cares; it's driving the left crazy to be mentioning it, so keep mentioning it, and expand its meaning so it encompasses everything we hate. (And remember how Donald Trump coopted the left's "fake news" trope in late summer 2016 and completely destroyed it as a tool for the left?)

    And finally, a David Mamet rule: "Don't bring a knife to a gunfight." Is outlawing CRT by statute given overboard? Who cares. In fact, bring on the Contitutional amendment.

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Reg Cæsar, @Hi There

    Yeah, but Alinsky’s rules only work on people who let them work on them (i.e. guilt ridden, soft modern White people).

    Groids don’t give a schitt when YT nervously clears his throat and humbly points out the unfairness or dishonesty of any lib/groid position. They double down. YT’s the one that folds like an accordion every time. If the other side doesn’t play by any rules but their own, what good are your rules?

    French looks like an albino anteater. He’s a literal cuck. Not surprised that he sides with our enemies.

  33. @kaganovitch
    @Clyde

    What a tool Frenchie turned out to be.

    He was Bill Kristol's favored presidential candidate. Tells you everything you need to know.

    Replies: @Barnard, @War for Blair Mountain

    Plus he took the idea seriously and spent two days thinking about running and believed he would win. Based on comments he made after the election he thought Evan McMullin blew a golden opportunity.

  34. Richard Lewomtim died at 92 on July 4. Lewontin was famous for his “more difference within than between” idea.

  35. @Clyde
    What a tool Frenchie turned out to be. Jamoke was a big shot at The National Review until 2019 -- https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/farewell/ - And major anti-Trumper.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Corn

    David French’s photo should be in the dictionary next to the entry for “controlled opposition”.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Corn


    David French’s photo should be in the dictionary next to the entry for “controlled opposition”.
     
    Calling this baldhead stooge controlled opposition is a compliment. This conceited turd is much lower than this.
  36. Isn’t all this undermined by the study in the Netherlands by very progressive authors that teaching children that the society was racist and to mull over their immigrant identity caused both the immigrant children and the Dutch children to become more self-conscious of their ethnic group and more ethnocentric?

    The reality is that in the Netherlands as in all North-West European societies and their offshoots, the native or core ethnicity has been groomed for several generations now to find it’s own expressions of solidarity and self-interest to be deeply guilt-inducing the second a single immigrant shows up and that they have unilaterally dis-armed themselves in any form of ethnic conflict. What the immigrants need to be taught is to do the same, otherwise ‘anti-racism’ will always become ‘anti-native racism’ or just anti-white racism.

    Also from the Netherlands, the most prominent crime journalist in the country is now fighting for his life after an attempted (It may possibly be upgraded to successful yet) assassination by the Moroccan mafia infront of his nice apartment building. I wonder what the shooter was taught in school?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57743233

    The star witness in the case against the biggest Moroccan mafia boss, his cousin, has had his first (Native Dutch) lawyer be gunned down and about half a dozen others quit the case.

    But hey, that’s just another layer of rich, vibrant cultural diversity to add to Amsterdam that wasn’t there before.

    • Replies: @Reactive Reaction
    @Altai

    "What the immigrants need to be taught is to do the same, otherwise ‘anti-racism’ will always become ‘anti-native racism’ or just anti-white racism"

    But it has ALWAYS been anti-white racism and only anti-white racism.

    The fact that the content is inevitably introduced by someone who begins with "Fellow white people, listen to this" is just a smokescreen.

  37. Will ADOS become the first group to bitch, whine, and moan their way to hegemony over a continent? They are giving it a tremendous effort, but my money is in “nah.”

  38. These are the same folks who use the schools to groom selected children for castration.

    We need war crimes trials, not debates.

  39. anon[362] • Disclaimer says:

    OK, let’s teach Critical Race Theory. But can we also dust off some Nazi racial theories about jews and teach those too? No? Why not?
    If Whitie is the root of all evil, then Jews are the real root of all evil.
    And thus whites can find some common ground with our black brothers… Minister Farakhan is right about jews!

  40. I don’t like CRT, don’t know who French is or why he’s important enough to merit hate here

    David French is the Paris Hilton of politics. A beltway cipher who’s relevant for being being relevant. It’s just like being famous for being famous. And just like Paris Hilton, in any a healthy society, people like him would be spending their days asking their fellow citizens, “would you like fries with that?” instead of annoying us with senseless bullshit like this.

    Honestly, this fool writes the absolute stupidest articles that I’ve ever seen. It enrages me that I live in a society where anyone even knows who he is. If he hasn’t been the first one to use the phrase “liberals are the real transphobes” unironically, he will be. Bet on it and make some money.

    That’s why we love to hate him.

    • Thanks: vhrm
  41. French is so obsequious toward his leftist masters. He probably thinks this will exempt him from the gulag.

  42. Which State is that?

  43. This post proves why Sailer is such a valuable writer – classic Sailer here.

  44. @vhrm
    I don't like CRT, don't know who French is or why he's important enough to merit hate here (even after trying to read his wikipedia page) and I also dislike the examples used in the op-ed.

    That said, while i may think "OMG CRT is so wrong and corrosive it should be illegal", and i very much think that group differences are explained by HBD differences between groups rather than "systemic racism", I don't ACTUALLY think these kinds of laws about what can and can't be taught should be passed. Free speech and all that.

    Also, as a practical matter, by now everyone here should at least suspect that for the foreseeable future these things would be selectively enforced against the majority / plurality just like the rest of the anti-discriminations laws.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @gent, @Dmon, @Jefferson Temple, @Anonymous Jew, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Anonymous, @Bill Jones, @Getaclue, @Hibernian

    Again you argue from ignorance.

    Fix. The. Ignorance.

    It’s beneath you.

  45. Why are all these jews for inflicting psychological attacks on White children?

  46. David French must be bucking for David Brook’s “fake conservative” post at the Times. What a useless sack he is – emblematic of the decline of National Review (which, thanks to Buckley himself, was always kind of rotten).

    I’m dubious about legislative attempts to ban CRT – they will probably ultimately be used against whites (as what isn’t). The solution is for parents to take over the school-boards and fire the administrators and teachers responsible (of course, that’s much easier said than done). The fact is that assault on normality, decency, and tradition that the left is engaged in forces normal, decent, and traditional-minded people into these ham-fisted kind of responses.

    A better legislative tack would be to pass laws that allow parents to opt out of paying into the public education racket. Not vouchers, but tax rebates, paid for by the actual shool districts that get the money, so they see the outflow as well as the inflow. If parents want to send their children to private school, why should they pay for public schools?

    Anyway, if people think they are going to “get their schools back”, they are as wrong as they are about “getting their country back”. They aren’t “your schools”. They never were.

  47. @vhrm
    I don't like CRT, don't know who French is or why he's important enough to merit hate here (even after trying to read his wikipedia page) and I also dislike the examples used in the op-ed.

    That said, while i may think "OMG CRT is so wrong and corrosive it should be illegal", and i very much think that group differences are explained by HBD differences between groups rather than "systemic racism", I don't ACTUALLY think these kinds of laws about what can and can't be taught should be passed. Free speech and all that.

    Also, as a practical matter, by now everyone here should at least suspect that for the foreseeable future these things would be selectively enforced against the majority / plurality just like the rest of the anti-discriminations laws.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @gent, @Dmon, @Jefferson Temple, @Anonymous Jew, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Anonymous, @Bill Jones, @Getaclue, @Hibernian

    Teachers do not have free speech rights in regards to curricula, legislatures and school boards have always set the standards. They are free to ban whatever they please and the teachers have no recourse besides resignation.

  48. The black hole here that one can only infer from the behavior of the particles surrounding it is that way too many people who should know better are still being taken in by French and his arguments and must be quoting/forwarding to their friends in the halls of power.

    I mean nobody’s talking about Krugman or whoever else is in the Times.

    We can always just ignore French too and start putting together some decent competition:

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Desiderius


    The black hole here that one can only infer from the behavior of the particles surrounding it is that way too many people who should know better are still being taken in by French and his arguments and must be quoting/forwarding to their friends in the halls of power.
     
    French's purpose is to obscure the argument and confound the right with red herring objections which he claims are appeals to "conservative principles" but which are designed to preemptively doom the right to failure.

    The most ridiculous lie he's been telling is that banning CRT is somehow contrary to the First Amendment, as if school curricula already don't prohibit the teaching of any manner of true things which the regime finds objectionable to its ends.

    That he gets treated as anything less than a saboteur is a testament to the right's penchant for spectacular failure.

    Replies: @anon

  49. Oh my! Leftards suddenly care about free speech.

    But their cheesy, insincere defense is for government speech, as schools are government operations. What is being said at taxpayer expense is NOT free speech.

    Now it would be good for schools to teach kids critical thinking, so that when people trot out Trotsky shit, the kids will recognize it. Additionally, they should be shown that sometimes, the authorities are wrong. Dangerously wrong.

    Riddle me this, Batman: Why are anti-critical race theory laws needed?

    Because the normal controls – parents and school boards – have failed to stop it. The legislatures should look at the bigger issue: school boards are corrupted. CRT is just a symptom.

  50. Conservatism’s gig for the past 50 years has been to keep whitey available for exploitation. This anti-anti-CRT campaign starkly highlights exactly what job conservatism and the Republican party does in the system. We could work up a “theory” critical of Jews or blacks and teach it in the schools, do you think French and the rest of the grifters of ConInk would come out against its suppression?

    Conservatism always loses to the left because it shares the same white-hating racism as the left. They can’t bring themselves to speak out against antifa because deep down inside they consider antifa to be right. They couldn’t bring themselves to do anything about the opioid plague because they share the system’s disdain for the untouchables in flyover country. Even speaking out against it might taint you with the stain of having sympathy for “THEM.” Organized conservatism and the Republican party are the main reason for the decay of America.

    • Agree: Alden
  51. freerepublic.com

    Mathilde Cohen Jew professor at University of Connecticut went to Paris and Nanterre to make anti French speech. Her talk was that French food and cooking is racist and White supremacist and is anti minority.

    I do remember that every time the Muslims demonstrated against stores that sell pork and the school dress code that’s standard European dress instead of Muslim shrouds, any Muslim protest, the Rabbi organizations were right there demonstrating with the Muslims.

    I remember when the teachers union and other anti White liberals were agitating against milk as part of school lunch and milk and cheese in those health * nutrition classes because it’s white in color and another symbol of white supremacy.

    In another couple generations, the liberals will do to us what Stalin did to Russians

    • Replies: @Rob
    @Alden


    In another couple generations, the liberals will do to us what Stalin did to Russians
     
    Couple generations? Seriously? You are an optimist. I could see it start in the Northeast in another couple weeks.

    Oh, you mean to flyover whites? Yeah, I could see that taking longer. OTOH, the US government will not be 90-odd percent blacks, hispanics, and GoodWhite women, and function well enough to hold states together if they really wanted to go. Competence in government is on a downswing. One that is basically irreversible without repudiating their ideology. IQ-style testing could hold against some of the rot. But they cannot do that. Of the ascendants, white women would win all the top jobs. Shaniqua did not go to all that work to purge white men, just to take orders from his sisters. They could not just test blacks, because theee aren’t enough smart ones…White men will stop joining the military when it goes full transBlaq. Without whites, competency takes a huge hit. Planes and ships are the military’s big competitive advantage. The Navy is already having trouble keeping ships above water. They cannot find more than a handful of women and blacks who are capable of flying the fancy stuff, and that is after decades of hard searching. If the military gets rid of their IQ test, we’ll,..lol!

    The left is running out of runway. Before the whole country goes minority and incompetent, the woke institutions will.

    The shitshow won’t last 40 years.

    Replies: @Alden

  52. @Harry Baldwin
    It's my observation that when white parents adopt a child of another race, their political views tend to move toward those that they see as in the interest of their children's race rather than their own. Even if those were the views that motivated them to adopt a child of another race in the first place, they become more pronounced. It's why I'm dubious that we can count on "conservative" Justice Amy Coney Barrett for much.

    David French is an extreme example of this. As a virulent anti-Trumper, his having adopted a black daughter was used by trolls to attack him. As indicated in his NYT piece, he now endorses Critical Race Theory; it's not that he thinks it needs to be openly debated, he flat out endorses it.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @3g4me, @Nicholas Stix, @Paperback Writer, @Art Deco

    This is more pronounced when whites have non-white children. 10% of whites have children who are not white. These whites become politically anti-white and often identify as the race if their children, like Jeb Bush who identified as Hispanic on government forms.

  53. @Peter Sellers
    It's not complex. It starts with humility to recognize the disparities are not only real, but institutionalized. What people find hard is relinquishing control of the process. **That's** been the obstacle to equality; but reconstruction while it lasted didn't see whites lynched.

    The most difficult decision for whites is to invite blacks into places of power. Do that in humility and "complex* issues dissolve; that is unless the object of power is still to control distribution of the wealth/resources kn of the country.

    there's no evidence that blacks will reciprocate the efforts white christian america has invested in opposing power sharing. It's easy to take the steps, but only if whites will humble themselves and trust a system they broke.

    a very practical reason is if you want end the fear you're equating with power sharing right now or continue to live in fear by perpetuating violence against blacks in order to maintain your privilege. Your choice.

    Would you accept your situation if the roles were reversed?

    How would you know unless we tried it. We have one historical precedent (reconstruction) and *whites* ended it through violence.

    Whites have had sole custody of the country and done poorly in social justice, ...

    Replies: @Clyde, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @joe862, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @JEG, @Rosie, @AnotherDad, @Bill, @Alden, @PhysicistDave

    Das rite. Luv the children. Fill up the planes with a bunch of airport miscreants. Luv ya brother and put him in the pilot’s seat. Luv ya sista and hand her the microphone in the airport control tower on a busy foggy night.

    And pray for the people living in the projects two miles from the end of the runway.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Jim Bob Lassiter


    Das rite. Luv the children. Fill up the planes with a bunch of airport miscreants. Luv ya brother and put him in the pilot’s seat. Luv ya sista and hand her the microphone in the airport control tower on a busy foggy night.

    And pray for the people living in the projects two miles from the end of the runway.
     

    !!! You gave me the most laughs today. --- Can you believe that way back in 1980. Sting said that we were in world destructor mode? Though still hasn't happened. Though Chicago projects towers were razed.
    "When The World Is Running Down, You Make The Best Of What's Still Around"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXYW7kZP6jc
  54. The Ideology of American Exceptionalism spawned Critical Race Theory into existence….

    American Exceptionalism was spawned into existence by the C0ld War…

    The Cold War…the mass murder of Vietnamese and North Koreans….was about Greedy White Make Defense Contractor CEOS making $ $ $ $ $ $$$$ off of WAR…

    Affirmative Action for Blacks and the 1964 Civil Rights Act was a direct consequence of the Cold War(the anti-commie crusade required integration of the US Military…onto Critical Race Theory in 2021…

    And here is the evidence:‘go google the news story today about Raytheon’s CEO pushing Critical Race Theory on White Raytheon CEOs….

    So now you understand post-1945 US History…

  55. @kaganovitch
    @Clyde

    What a tool Frenchie turned out to be.

    He was Bill Kristol's favored presidential candidate. Tells you everything you need to know.

    Replies: @Barnard, @War for Blair Mountain

    I’ll betcha NAMBLA is very found of David French also…

  56. The CRT/Not CRT debate is interesting, but more interesting is how it came to be.

    The Regime’s own draconian COVID-19 lockdown simultaneously diminished the public esteem of teachers while allowing parents a good peak behind the curtain into the regime’s consent manufacturing process.

    If COVID-19 had occurred a few years ago the issue would have been gender bending rather than CRT, but it works along the same lines.

    • Thanks: vhrm
  57. @Desiderius
    The black hole here that one can only infer from the behavior of the particles surrounding it is that way too many people who should know better are still being taken in by French and his arguments and must be quoting/forwarding to their friends in the halls of power.

    I mean nobody's talking about Krugman or whoever else is in the Times.

    We can always just ignore French too and start putting together some decent competition:

    https://twitter.com/Talleyrand89/status/1412757402496245762?s=20

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    The black hole here that one can only infer from the behavior of the particles surrounding it is that way too many people who should know better are still being taken in by French and his arguments and must be quoting/forwarding to their friends in the halls of power.

    French’s purpose is to obscure the argument and confound the right with red herring objections which he claims are appeals to “conservative principles” but which are designed to preemptively doom the right to failure.

    The most ridiculous lie he’s been telling is that banning CRT is somehow contrary to the First Amendment, as if school curricula already don’t prohibit the teaching of any manner of true things which the regime finds objectionable to its ends.

    That he gets treated as anything less than a saboteur is a testament to the right’s penchant for spectacular failure.

    • Agree: Nicholas Stix
    • Replies: @anon
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)


    French’s purpose is to obscure the argument and confound the right with red herring objections which he claims are appeals to “conservative principles” but which are designed to preemptively doom the right to failure.
     
    Perhaps that may be reasonably as being the effect of French's arguments but how could you know such to be his purpose?

    BTW, I've always wondered about the additional, seemingly gratuitous information that you volunteer with the parenthetical statements that you add to your various posting handles. Forgive me, but is there some particular reason why the reader should be expected to find of interest the seemingly irrelevant detail of whether you were "working at home" or "hard at work", etc., while posting any given comment?

    Replies: @Hibernian

  58. “…a cross-partisan group…”

    That’s a new one for me in the jargon of journolisming.

    And it’s pretty funny that David French, an ostentatious Christian who no doubt opposes the teaching of unscientific creationism in public schools, is such an avid supporter of unscientific Critical Race Theory.

  59. The problem is it’s not a “debate” about race in schools; it’s a one sided affair that you’re fighting with one hand tied behind your back. If you dare mention anything regarding bell curve iq’s, propensity for violence, genetic differences… while all true, they’ll most likely have you suspended or expelled as a student and fired from your job as a parent. As usual, the expectation is that you “debate” on their terms or the consequences are dire.

    The CRT debate is a heads they win, tails you lose situation.

  60. @Peter Sellers
    It's not complex. It starts with humility to recognize the disparities are not only real, but institutionalized. What people find hard is relinquishing control of the process. **That's** been the obstacle to equality; but reconstruction while it lasted didn't see whites lynched.

    The most difficult decision for whites is to invite blacks into places of power. Do that in humility and "complex* issues dissolve; that is unless the object of power is still to control distribution of the wealth/resources kn of the country.

    there's no evidence that blacks will reciprocate the efforts white christian america has invested in opposing power sharing. It's easy to take the steps, but only if whites will humble themselves and trust a system they broke.

    a very practical reason is if you want end the fear you're equating with power sharing right now or continue to live in fear by perpetuating violence against blacks in order to maintain your privilege. Your choice.

    Would you accept your situation if the roles were reversed?

    How would you know unless we tried it. We have one historical precedent (reconstruction) and *whites* ended it through violence.

    Whites have had sole custody of the country and done poorly in social justice, ...

    Replies: @Clyde, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @joe862, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @JEG, @Rosie, @AnotherDad, @Bill, @Alden, @PhysicistDave

    The current situation, in which whites, especially white men, are blamed for everything, cannot continue. The pendulum has gone too far in an anti-white direction. If the pendulum doesn’t come back more in the middle, the white backlash is going to grow and grow.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @JEG

    Two more weeks. Trust the plan.

    , @Alden
    @JEG

    unfortunately. Elite White men did it to other White men. Every president since Truman except Trump, the anti White affirmative action pro black criminal school budding satanic Supreme Court was all White men until the 1980s, after most of the damage was done. The most anti White Supreme Court decisions and orders, Brown vs Topeka, Griggs vs Duke Power Kaiser vs Weber were made by an all White man Supreme Court.

    For some bizarre reason, elite White men spent the second half of the 20th century making the laws designed to destroy the White race.

    Replies: @Getaclue

    , @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @JEG

    Straight White men are just 25% of the US population. The average age for whites males is 42 and there are more Whites over the age of 65 than under the age of 30.

    The current racial reckoning began due to the dwindling number of whites in America. Whites are now a minority at our Universities and a minority of Americans under the age of 20. Over the last decade white deaths have exceeded white births , thus the 2020 census is the first to show an actual decline in the number of White people in America.

    Whites need to plan for a future which discriminates against whites and targets whites for extermination. As the white population continues to decline there will be fewer and fewer safe havens to protect your children and property. Maine looks to be a potential refuge for whites over the coming decades. The cold weather repels non-whites and the population is still 96% white in Maine.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

  61. @Harry Baldwin
    It's my observation that when white parents adopt a child of another race, their political views tend to move toward those that they see as in the interest of their children's race rather than their own. Even if those were the views that motivated them to adopt a child of another race in the first place, they become more pronounced. It's why I'm dubious that we can count on "conservative" Justice Amy Coney Barrett for much.

    David French is an extreme example of this. As a virulent anti-Trumper, his having adopted a black daughter was used by trolls to attack him. As indicated in his NYT piece, he now endorses Critical Race Theory; it's not that he thinks it needs to be openly debated, he flat out endorses it.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @3g4me, @Nicholas Stix, @Paperback Writer, @Art Deco

    @16 Harry Baldwin: Their political/social beliefs don’t alter in what they perceive to be in the interests of “their” non-White child. It’s just a form of extreme virtue signaling, like the non-White adoption itself. French’s natural-born White children will either adopt the same attitude, to the point of pretending to be black themselves or marrying a black, or one of them might be honest enough to denounce his father’s obsession with his portable status symbol.

    Adoption itself can be a harrowing process. Outcomes vary tremendously, because the adopting parents are often psychologically unbalanced (woman desperate for a kid, man with mixed feelings about raising someone else’s child). Most are convinced environment is everything and that their ‘love’ is all that is necessary for a successful outcome. Genetics will out, of course, and while this creates its own difficulties with any adoption, interracial adoption adds a distinct tang – plus more than a whiff of impulsiveness and violence – often directed at any of the couple’s natural born, White children.

    These people are not wonderfully charitable or loving; they are dangerously deluded and evolutionarily unfit. Classic spiteful mutants.

  62. The Protestant Reformation (colorized):

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Desiderius

    https://youtu.be/h4TdoHAUy4w

    Replies: @Desiderius

    , @Reactive Reaction
    @Desiderius

    But democracy is a failed ideology.

    , @Gabe Ruth
    @Desiderius

    I like to troll a certain kind of cuck asking where in hell Dante put the antisemites.

    BTW, I quit twitter.com a few years ago (loved it too much, could kill hours scrolling, laughing and crying in equal measure), so I really appreciate your tweet posts, they're like methadone.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Paperback Writer

  63. @Dennis Dale
    I think it was Richard Hanania who tweeted censoring CRT would be acknowledging its power as an idea, as in a mistake.
    That's silly. This isn't Galileo's telescope--or Charles Murray's recent book. And the powerful keep acknowledging the power of of his and others' words, daily with their censorship, and being called out on it; it makes no difference. The "power" of ideas is meaningless. The power of the megaphone is all.
    It's distressing so many still want to half-measure the fight, humoring their premises about "racism" and other hokum.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @sayless, @MEH 0910

    The kids are being damaged right now. Richard Hanania is wrong.

  64. • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @Desiderius

    New Hampshire Set To Ban The Anti-White Totalitarianism Given The Shady Name "Critical Race Theory"

    I fully support the much needed legislation in New Hampshire designed to put a halt to the anti-White Totalitarianism indoctrination and propaganda -- Critical Race Theory -- that Joe Biden and the Democrat Party are violently pushing. Joe Biden and the Democrat Party are anti-White Totalitarians and it breaks my heart but we must come together and bang it out bravely against Joe Biden and the Democrat Party and their horrible anti-White Totalitarianism and their so-called "critical race theory."

    Why is the lovely and gracious current US Senator and 2022 candidate for US Senate M. Hassan silent on this "critical race theory" question?

    WHY?

    Hassan is pronounced like fasten and fasten your seat belt it's gonna be a bumpy and peppery populist campaign for US Senate from New Hampshire.

    The New Hampshire hills are unpleasantly alive with the sound of Sununus and this current Sununu boob is a Bush Organized Crime Syndicate stooge and Chris Sununu pushes mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    God Bless America!

  65. In contrast, while you never hear about redlining, countless school districts mandate a week of instruction on how George W. Bush’s Increasing Minority Homeownership diversity push set off the Housing Bubble and Bust of 2008.

    I say:

    I am currently entertaining the option of starting an exploratory committee to contemplate proceeding with a possible 2022 Republican Party US Senate primary election campaign for the great state of New Hampshire and my preliminary slogan or motto shall be:

    AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION FOR THE WHITE CORE AMERICAN NATION.

    But,

    Bringing much needed publicity to this 15 or so years ago then-president George W Bush push for more mortgages by encouraging non-Whites to get mortgages aspect of the Second Great Asset Bubble is also on my mind and New Hampshire has a huge amount of genius slobs born before 1965 who think their real estate unrealized gains are the cat’s meow but currently they are getting hammered by high and pricey property tax assessments that do them not much good if they’re keeping their asses in their current year 2021 Fed-induced bloated price abodes.

    Everywhere the George W Bush era real estate asset bubble expanded and ballooned and not just in the sand states or the states loaded the Hell up with non-Whites or so-called “minorities.”

    I would blame the privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank first off but Sailer’s idea about that greedy myopic stupid and evil baby boomer boob George W Bush pushing and prodding the real estate bubble by grabbing every White and non-White and creating mortgages to create clam raking opportunities for the FIRE sector is a part of it.

    This bit by Sailer will never be a headline in the NY Times or the WSJ but it is accurate:

    George W. Bush’s Increasing Minority Homeownership diversity push set off the Housing Bubble and Bust of 2008.

    As to David French I say that if I am elected to the US Senate I will sponsor a modest proposal bill to remove David French from Tennessee and legally and comfortably and forcibly exile him to a hot and humid and fetid part of sub-Saharan Africa.

    • Replies: @Odin
    @Charles Pewitt

    At unz.com punctuation is free. Some judiciously distributed commas and periods might well advance this comment to readability.

    Replies: @anon

  66. These measures would, by way of comparison, make Germany’s uncompromising and successful approach to teaching about the Holocaust illegal, as part of its goal is to infuse them with some sense of the weight of the past and (famously) lead many German students to feel anguish about their ancestry.

    With the benefit of hindsight, Germany’s concerns about Soviet Russia were prescient and it was at least arguably on the “right” side in its support for Finland and Romania, and possibly others. I wonder which actions of our American ancestors will seem prescient in hindsight.

    By the way, the German people have a long and distinguished history. Western civilization and modern culture would not exist if it weren’t for Germans. The only way a real Germans would feel “anguish” about their ancestry is if traitor ethnic Germans and outsiders whose ancestors accomplished very little lied to them. I say this as someone with no German ancestors.

  67. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1412606706404794374?s=20

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    New Hampshire Set To Ban The Anti-White Totalitarianism Given The Shady Name “Critical Race Theory

    I fully support the much needed legislation in New Hampshire designed to put a halt to the anti-White Totalitarianism indoctrination and propaganda — Critical Race Theory — that Joe Biden and the Democrat Party are violently pushing. Joe Biden and the Democrat Party are anti-White Totalitarians and it breaks my heart but we must come together and bang it out bravely against Joe Biden and the Democrat Party and their horrible anti-White Totalitarianism and their so-called “critical race theory.”

    Why is the lovely and gracious current US Senator and 2022 candidate for US Senate M. Hassan silent on this “critical race theory” question?

    WHY?

    Hassan is pronounced like fasten and fasten your seat belt it’s gonna be a bumpy and peppery populist campaign for US Senate from New Hampshire.

    The New Hampshire hills are unpleasantly alive with the sound of Sununus and this current Sununu boob is a Bush Organized Crime Syndicate stooge and Chris Sununu pushes mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    God Bless America!

  68. @Anon
    This is so funny. The right in this case has adopted a pure Seth Alinsky approach, and it's infuriating the woke.

    "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."

    If avoiding anything that upsets people is forbidden, as "actual violence," well that includes this CRT stuff, not just stuff that college students and New York Times junior journalists freak out about.

    "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

    Alinsky was referring to the arbitrary selection of a person as the target to be Hitlerized, but it also works for concepts. Is CRT really what the right opposes? What the hell is CRT? Who cares; it's driving the left crazy to be mentioning it, so keep mentioning it, and expand its meaning so it encompasses everything we hate. (And remember how Donald Trump coopted the left's "fake news" trope in late summer 2016 and completely destroyed it as a tool for the left?)

    And finally, a David Mamet rule: "Don't bring a knife to a gunfight." Is outlawing CRT by statute given overboard? Who cares. In fact, bring on the Contitutional amendment.

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Reg Cæsar, @Hi There

    What the hell is CRT?

    And why does the county landfill refuse to take them? We have to pay a specialist to get rid of them.

    • LOL: john cronk
  69. At their best, our nation’s schools equip young minds ..

    Public school Job #1, or so the sales pitch went, is to teach the 3Rs to desperately poor kids; done by 8th grade. As an alternative to those unfortunates receiving no formal education at all.

    Liberal education is a private affair.

    In fact, public schools do not provide basic skills to poor kids, despite having 10+ years to do so, and being given $25-30K per kid each year for the task.

    At best, public schools offer rich parents an economical, itemized tax deductible alternative to elite privates for their kids.

    Once again we see a government program realizing the exact opposite of what it was purportedly intended.

    [MORE]

    I don’t want the schools babysitting:

    • CRT

    • Sekz-Ed (GOPs surrendered on that one)

    • Math (be it +/-, CC, calculus, or in between)

    • English (be it Ebonics or Shakespeare)

    • Etc and so forth.

    I want them to die, their facilities sold off at open auction (with proceeds refunded to taxpayers), and all the taxes currently used to fund schools eliminated.

    Someone around here likes to add that the schools should be razed, and the earth where they once stood needs to be salted. I do not oppose that.

  70. French is a grifter and an idiot.

  71. We Disagree on a Lot of Things. Except the Danger of Anti-Critical Race Theory Laws.
    July 5, 2021

    What’s that riddle about Independence Day-Old baked goods?

    By Kmele Foster, David French, Jason Stanley and Thomas Chatterton Williams

    The authors are a cross-partisan group of thinkers who have written extensively about authoritarianism, liberalism and free speech.

    Kmon, who are we kmidding? They can kmiss kmy…

    Kmele Foster = Lefter smoke. Feel Mr Stoke, stoke Mr Feel.

    Thomas Chatterton Williams? The chattering class has been around since Domesday. There is even a town in England named for it!

    Let’s cut to the chase: the quickest way to kill CRT is to apply it to Jews. The ADL and SPLC will do the job for us.

  72. “Because these laws often aim to protect the feelings of hypothetical children, they are dangerously imprecise.”

    Are these people for real? The whole point of woke ideology is to protect the feelings of hypothetical people. And laws against murder protect hypothetical victims. What the fuck kind of logic is this?

  73. In two years the headline will be “If anti-discrimination laws pass, the debate over white guilt will be shut down”.


  74. [MORE]

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    @MEH 0910

    All of this could be resolved if public and private schools stopped presenting America as the center of the universe. Require that half of Social Studies/History courses focus on the rest of the globe.

    Ironically, “conservative” America-centric curriculum is what directly led to CRT. I imagine it’s a product of the Cold War and the curriculum was more sophisticated before that. No one with even a casual knowledge of world history seriously believes in CRT, because they are aware forms of slavery and discrimination existed in 90 + % of societies until fairly recently, and bad things happened to virtually ethnic group.

  75. This is more typical craven GOP nonsense.

    They will ban “CRT” and declare victory. Their simps will go back to the NBA.

    And the teaching of anti-white hatred, which has had the same rationale and the same content for at least the past 30 years, will continue under a new name.

    “Critical race theory” is just a name. Anti-white hatred is the problem, and the GOP’s “donor community” has no interest in banning that.

    • Agree: vhrm
    • Replies: @Catdog
    @Reactive Reaction

    Wrong.

    CRT is now the shorthand way of saying "anti-white hate", which is a mouthful. It's a winning term to seize on and attack. Attacking CRT training in the last month of his presidency is one of the only good things Trump did in his final year. It's giving the right an enemy to focus on as we regroup and reorganize.

    , @vhrm
    @Reactive Reaction


    This is more typical craven GOP nonsense.

    They will ban “CRT” and declare victory. Their simps will go back to the NBA.

    And the teaching of anti-white hatred, which has had the same rationale and the same content for at least the past 30 years, will continue under a new name.

    “Critical race theory” is just a name. Anti-white hatred is the problem, and the GOP’s “donor community” has no interest in banning that.
     
    This is generally my sense of these laws as well. Somewhat like Cuomo's latest posturing on guns in New York: it will do absolutely nothing to address the crime in the streets and just create more headaches and costs for law abiding gun owners (and, transfer more money to lawyers).
  76. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/LaocoonofTroy/status/1412580149724389384?s=20

    The Protestant Reformation (colorized):

    https://twitter.com/Super70sSports/status/1411889870339969026?s=20

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Reactive Reaction, @Gabe Ruth

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Reg Cæsar

    Call the ADL! The Muppets are Rayciss!

  77. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/LaocoonofTroy/status/1412580149724389384?s=20

    The Protestant Reformation (colorized):

    https://twitter.com/Super70sSports/status/1411889870339969026?s=20

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Reactive Reaction, @Gabe Ruth

    But democracy is a failed ideology.

  78. • Agree: Old Prude
    • Thanks: ic1000, vhrm
    • Replies: @Hi There
    @MEH 0910


    The response to ideas you don't like isn't to ban them; it's to debate them
     
    No one is banning the ideas of CRT or discussion of CRT or trying to ban books related to CRT.

    What people are doing is using their political voice to shape curriculum in public schools that are entirely controlled by government law. If people don't want certain ideas taught to their children or funded by their taxpayer dollars, they absolutely should use their political voice, and their elected representatives should use their conferred authority accordingly.
    , @ScarletNumber
    @MEH 0910

    There used to be an expression "fighting with one hand tied behind my back". If this debate was allowed in K-12 classrooms, it wouldn't be a fair fight and the correct side would be forced to fight with one hand tied behind its back for fear of cancellation.

    , @Rosie
    @MEH 0910


    Any teacher who responded to the anti-white allegations of Critical Race Theory by citing in class the factual statistics in Charles Murray's new book "Facing Reality" about racial differences in crime rates and intelligence quotients would be canceled.
     
    Indeed. The establishment is in an awkward situation here because they're trying to have it both ways. When attacking Whites, free speech is paramount. Then, if Whites attempt self-defense, all of a sudden sparing feelings and keeping the peace take precedence. At some point, it becomes obvious to even the most clueless.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    https://twitter.com/thedispatch/status/1269622798684692481


    If you’re a conservative, you may well be aware of the research cataloged by Heather Mac Donald rebutting claims of systemic racial bias in fatal police shootings. You may be less aware of the recent New York Times report indicating that African Americans make up 19 percent of the population of Minneapolis, 9 percent of the police force and an incredible 58 percent of subjects of police use of force.
     
  79. @Clyde
    @Peter Sellers

    You possess the usual Tiny Duck pattern of illiteracy. And Duck, whatever happened to that VerySmartBrothas.com website you used to promote, send love to? That Leon Pitz guy too?

    Replies: @Alfa158

    Deliberately so, Duck is usually pretty good about inserting carefully crafted illiteracy as a way of letting us know it is him, and that we’re supposed to laugh at the ineptness of the Woke.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Alfa158

    It was mildly amusing the first 17,000 times......

  80. Whores are for sale. Tell me something I don’t know.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @Yancey Ward

    Whores are for sale. Tell me something I don’t know.

    I say:

    Thought provoking.

    I want to know the price of the whores that are for sale.

    There are three dollar whores plying their ancient trade in all parts of the USA and most of those three dollar whores have more integrity and decency and honor than the average Republican Party politician whore and the average Republican Party/Conservatism Inc. propaganda whore such as David French.

  81. the source of his ressentiment is everyone assumes he’s a jew. sad.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @anon

    I resent him (a little) and don't for a moment think there's anything Jewish about him.

    But now that I think of it, he does look like a plausible child of Prince Harry and Mayim Bialik.

  82. @Altai
    Isn't all this undermined by the study in the Netherlands by very progressive authors that teaching children that the society was racist and to mull over their immigrant identity caused both the immigrant children and the Dutch children to become more self-conscious of their ethnic group and more ethnocentric?

    The reality is that in the Netherlands as in all North-West European societies and their offshoots, the native or core ethnicity has been groomed for several generations now to find it's own expressions of solidarity and self-interest to be deeply guilt-inducing the second a single immigrant shows up and that they have unilaterally dis-armed themselves in any form of ethnic conflict. What the immigrants need to be taught is to do the same, otherwise 'anti-racism' will always become 'anti-native racism' or just anti-white racism.

    Also from the Netherlands, the most prominent crime journalist in the country is now fighting for his life after an attempted (It may possibly be upgraded to successful yet) assassination by the Moroccan mafia infront of his nice apartment building. I wonder what the shooter was taught in school?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57743233

    The star witness in the case against the biggest Moroccan mafia boss, his cousin, has had his first (Native Dutch) lawyer be gunned down and about half a dozen others quit the case.

    But hey, that's just another layer of rich, vibrant cultural diversity to add to Amsterdam that wasn't there before.

    Replies: @Reactive Reaction

    “What the immigrants need to be taught is to do the same, otherwise ‘anti-racism’ will always become ‘anti-native racism’ or just anti-white racism”

    But it has ALWAYS been anti-white racism and only anti-white racism.

    The fact that the content is inevitably introduced by someone who begins with “Fellow white people, listen to this” is just a smokescreen.

  83. Dmon says:
    @vhrm
    I don't like CRT, don't know who French is or why he's important enough to merit hate here (even after trying to read his wikipedia page) and I also dislike the examples used in the op-ed.

    That said, while i may think "OMG CRT is so wrong and corrosive it should be illegal", and i very much think that group differences are explained by HBD differences between groups rather than "systemic racism", I don't ACTUALLY think these kinds of laws about what can and can't be taught should be passed. Free speech and all that.

    Also, as a practical matter, by now everyone here should at least suspect that for the foreseeable future these things would be selectively enforced against the majority / plurality just like the rest of the anti-discriminations laws.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @gent, @Dmon, @Jefferson Temple, @Anonymous Jew, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Anonymous, @Bill Jones, @Getaclue, @Hibernian

    While we all understand that the 1st Amendment exists to curtail private citizens’ speech, while allowing government entities unlimited latitude to force-feed state religious dogma to minors, the argument against CRT is based on factual merit. The likes of Grape Nehi Coats maintain that the failure of blacks to achieve their destined Overlordship of the Universe is entirely due to systemic racism. However, to the knowledgeable observer, the real reason is clear: at the summer solstice ceremony at the Altar of George Floyd, the goat sacrificed was two shades of white off from the prescribed value called out in the applicable MIL Standard. I can sympathize with the mistake. Due to inadequate funding, my education was so disadvantaged that they didn’t even teach us to read sheep guts arranged in cursive.

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
  84. @vhrm
    I don't like CRT, don't know who French is or why he's important enough to merit hate here (even after trying to read his wikipedia page) and I also dislike the examples used in the op-ed.

    That said, while i may think "OMG CRT is so wrong and corrosive it should be illegal", and i very much think that group differences are explained by HBD differences between groups rather than "systemic racism", I don't ACTUALLY think these kinds of laws about what can and can't be taught should be passed. Free speech and all that.

    Also, as a practical matter, by now everyone here should at least suspect that for the foreseeable future these things would be selectively enforced against the majority / plurality just like the rest of the anti-discriminations laws.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @gent, @Dmon, @Jefferson Temple, @Anonymous Jew, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Anonymous, @Bill Jones, @Getaclue, @Hibernian

    Your position is that we parents have to send our children to these schools, pay the property taxes to keep them open, yet have no say as to what the Marxist fuckwits teach them within the limited time constraints of the school day. If you think it’s a free speech issue, you are a moron.

  85. @Reg Cæsar
    @Desiderius

    https://youtu.be/h4TdoHAUy4w

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Call the ADL! The Muppets are Rayciss!

  86. By all means, lets have a robust discussion about critical theory.

    Step one: Get a copy of Culture of Critique into the hands of every student.

  87. Richard Hanania mocks David French quite spectacularly:

    Check out this “cross-partisan” group of thinkers. Wow, the New York Times got David French to say conservatives should sit back and do nothing about the things they worry about? Would’ve never expected him to take that position.

    Yglesias: “But public schools are public. And public institutions are subject to politics.” Contrast with French and this Chatterton guy, who want to make the lunatics in the education bureaucracy a permanent ruling class with control over your children.

    Shorter David French: Go fight and die for feminist reading circles in Afghanistan. But you have no say in what your children are taught with your tax dollars. It’s called conservative principles.

  88. We need to, at some point, re-learn how to distinguish the intellectual value of ideas and how they are communicated; rather than having stupid debates about morality, wherein people’s fears and self-interest are the thinly disguised driving forces.

    CRT is very, very, very stupid. It is the most anti-intellectual philosophy I can think of. It has no place in schools, because its entire point is to diminish intellectual enquiry. Teaching children that their skin colour determines the validity of their ideas is teaching them not to think. CRT might be discussed in schools, but, since the purpose of school is to develop children’s ability to think, it can only be taught as an example of how not to be.

    Teaching children CRT is like going for an AA meeting piss-up.

    • Agree: ic1000, vhrm
  89. @vhrm
    I don't like CRT, don't know who French is or why he's important enough to merit hate here (even after trying to read his wikipedia page) and I also dislike the examples used in the op-ed.

    That said, while i may think "OMG CRT is so wrong and corrosive it should be illegal", and i very much think that group differences are explained by HBD differences between groups rather than "systemic racism", I don't ACTUALLY think these kinds of laws about what can and can't be taught should be passed. Free speech and all that.

    Also, as a practical matter, by now everyone here should at least suspect that for the foreseeable future these things would be selectively enforced against the majority / plurality just like the rest of the anti-discriminations laws.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @gent, @Dmon, @Jefferson Temple, @Anonymous Jew, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Anonymous, @Bill Jones, @Getaclue, @Hibernian

    In some bizarro world I would agree with you, but we’re long past the point of fighting the left with principles. The left gets this and the establishment right still can’t figure it out. The war of ideas is over. This is just war. Principles only work when you’re dealing with people that are willing to play by the rules.

    Sailer makes this clear:

    Likewise, what school district doesn’t mandate a class on how black criminals destroyed American big cities in order to instill guilt and better behavior in blacks and to teach white children that they must never forget and never again acquiesce to the criminal violence that drove their ancestors into suburban exile from their once great cities?

    If teachers could say the above freely – the opposite of CRT – you’d have a point. But they can’t. So why should we allow anyone to advocate CRT to 8–year-olds?

    • Replies: @vhrm
    @Anonymous Jew


    In some bizarro world I would agree with you, but we’re long past the point of fighting the left with principles. The left gets this and the establishment right still can’t figure it out. The war of ideas is over. This is just war. Principles only work when you’re dealing with people that are willing to play by the rules.

     

    The war of ideas is not over. It's war, but it's a culture war and the kids are going to absorb more of the values on this stuff from TikTok, youtube and TV than from what their teachers tell them.

    These laws are at the same time oppressive and too narrow. Also after a five of ridiculing "safe spaces" i'm not going to suddenly applaud conservatives passing CRT safe space laws.

    If teachers could say the above freely – the opposite of CRT – you’d have a point. But they can’t. So why should we allow anyone to advocate CRT to 8–year-olds?

     

    I'm saying that these state level laws (esp. as distinct from just procedural changes to existing curriculum "standards" of the NCLB era) won't actually even necessarily prevent that.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  90. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/LaocoonofTroy/status/1412580149724389384?s=20

    The Protestant Reformation (colorized):

    https://twitter.com/Super70sSports/status/1411889870339969026?s=20

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Reactive Reaction, @Gabe Ruth

    I like to troll a certain kind of cuck asking where in hell Dante put the antisemites.

    BTW, I quit twitter.com a few years ago (loved it too much, could kill hours scrolling, laughing and crying in equal measure), so I really appreciate your tweet posts, they’re like methadone.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Gabe Ruth

    https://twitter.com/gaitanalyst/status/1412241316759605254?s=20

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Gabe Ruth

    It's a waste of time for guys like us to tweet, but it's interesting to read pundits just to see what they are saying.

    James Lindsay (@ConceptualJames) and Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) are good examples of centrist white guys who have become radicalized by, respectively, CRT and BLM.

    The latter is particularly interesting because he used to be a real squish. He's become totally based.

  91. David French: Exhibit 1 in why I ended my National Review subscription in 2016.

    • Replies: @G. Poulin
    @Old Prude

    I ended my subscription many years ago, when the National Review ran a cover story called "The conservative case for gay marriage". That's when I knew the gig was up.

    Replies: @anon

  92. @Anon
    This is so funny. The right in this case has adopted a pure Seth Alinsky approach, and it's infuriating the woke.

    "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."

    If avoiding anything that upsets people is forbidden, as "actual violence," well that includes this CRT stuff, not just stuff that college students and New York Times junior journalists freak out about.

    "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

    Alinsky was referring to the arbitrary selection of a person as the target to be Hitlerized, but it also works for concepts. Is CRT really what the right opposes? What the hell is CRT? Who cares; it's driving the left crazy to be mentioning it, so keep mentioning it, and expand its meaning so it encompasses everything we hate. (And remember how Donald Trump coopted the left's "fake news" trope in late summer 2016 and completely destroyed it as a tool for the left?)

    And finally, a David Mamet rule: "Don't bring a knife to a gunfight." Is outlawing CRT by statute given overboard? Who cares. In fact, bring on the Contitutional amendment.

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Reg Cæsar, @Hi There

    Is outlawing CRT by statute given overboard? Who cares.

    I care. I care about being ethical and principled.

    The idea that anti-CRT types have some moral obligation to forfeit any political voice in how their tax dollars are spent or how their children are educated is absurd.

    It’s entirely ethical for people to use government and laws to express their preferences in public schools that are run entirely by government and laws.

    It would be overboard to ban people from writing books on CRT on their own time. No one is seriously considering that and they shouldn’t.

    The anti-CRT crowd genuinely have the moral high ground. They should understand that moral high ground, keep that moral high ground, and use that moral high ground to fight hard and win.

  93. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1412567704012091392

    Replies: @Hi There, @ScarletNumber, @Rosie, @MEH 0910

    The response to ideas you don’t like isn’t to ban them; it’s to debate them

    No one is banning the ideas of CRT or discussion of CRT or trying to ban books related to CRT.

    What people are doing is using their political voice to shape curriculum in public schools that are entirely controlled by government law. If people don’t want certain ideas taught to their children or funded by their taxpayer dollars, they absolutely should use their political voice, and their elected representatives should use their conferred authority accordingly.

  94. blacks complaining about trivial slights

    “Yo Milky, it ain’t no trivial slights, it’s mah civial rights !

    [MORE]

    Shhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttttttttt

  95. Anonymous[108] • Disclaimer says:

    Is “Redlining” a college major anywhere yet? I realize SecRed is a Cabinet-level post already, obviously.

    “Ah yes old sport, I remember back in the days when I was so busy lazing about Old Ivy formulating my doctoral thesis in Emmett Till Stackology…”

  96. @vhrm
    I don't like CRT, don't know who French is or why he's important enough to merit hate here (even after trying to read his wikipedia page) and I also dislike the examples used in the op-ed.

    That said, while i may think "OMG CRT is so wrong and corrosive it should be illegal", and i very much think that group differences are explained by HBD differences between groups rather than "systemic racism", I don't ACTUALLY think these kinds of laws about what can and can't be taught should be passed. Free speech and all that.

    Also, as a practical matter, by now everyone here should at least suspect that for the foreseeable future these things would be selectively enforced against the majority / plurality just like the rest of the anti-discriminations laws.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @gent, @Dmon, @Jefferson Temple, @Anonymous Jew, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Anonymous, @Bill Jones, @Getaclue, @Hibernian

    I don’t ACTUALLY think these kinds of laws about what can and can’t be taught should be passed. Free speech and all that.

    LOL. Do you know how public school curricula are approved? Hint: It’s not about “free speech”. It’s politically-approved material that lies within an Overton Window that varies regionally. Any teacher ‘going off the res’ with opposing content will be fired immediately.

  97. Anonymous[108] • Disclaimer says:
    @vhrm
    I don't like CRT, don't know who French is or why he's important enough to merit hate here (even after trying to read his wikipedia page) and I also dislike the examples used in the op-ed.

    That said, while i may think "OMG CRT is so wrong and corrosive it should be illegal", and i very much think that group differences are explained by HBD differences between groups rather than "systemic racism", I don't ACTUALLY think these kinds of laws about what can and can't be taught should be passed. Free speech and all that.

    Also, as a practical matter, by now everyone here should at least suspect that for the foreseeable future these things would be selectively enforced against the majority / plurality just like the rest of the anti-discriminations laws.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @gent, @Dmon, @Jefferson Temple, @Anonymous Jew, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Anonymous, @Bill Jones, @Getaclue, @Hibernian

    I did wonder what could be the possible audience for that op-ed (French and Monsieur Chatterton aren’t actually respected by any living liberals, and their input during the past 2 years of collective utter sewage has been entirely bandwagon at best and possibly null) when I saw it over the weekend. I guess now I know, the audience was you.

  98. “As we all know, blacks are famously fair-minded and rugged about intellectual debate.”

    Unfortunately, I am compelled to pay a compliment to Steve: He’s been early and accurate on the DIE (whitey) industry, and the race war between normal whites and blacks and their hysteria-driven white worshippers. Steve is quite possibly a Palm Springs-based jigolo but he wields his pen with rapier wit. Now I must go to the bathroom and barf.

  99. @Voltarde

    At their best, our nation’s schools equip young minds to grapple with complexity and navigate our differences.
     
    https://www.gamerevolution.com/assets/uploads/2013/08/file_61299_assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-hands-on-preview-856x482.jpg

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    The above pix is what I thought my tour in the USCG would look like. Instead: handcuffs on losers, mouth-to-mouth on losers, and fishing a loser corpse out of the drink. Although, if the above was on offer I’d probably end up a pirate.

  100. @Peter Sellers
    It's not complex. It starts with humility to recognize the disparities are not only real, but institutionalized. What people find hard is relinquishing control of the process. **That's** been the obstacle to equality; but reconstruction while it lasted didn't see whites lynched.

    The most difficult decision for whites is to invite blacks into places of power. Do that in humility and "complex* issues dissolve; that is unless the object of power is still to control distribution of the wealth/resources kn of the country.

    there's no evidence that blacks will reciprocate the efforts white christian america has invested in opposing power sharing. It's easy to take the steps, but only if whites will humble themselves and trust a system they broke.

    a very practical reason is if you want end the fear you're equating with power sharing right now or continue to live in fear by perpetuating violence against blacks in order to maintain your privilege. Your choice.

    Would you accept your situation if the roles were reversed?

    How would you know unless we tried it. We have one historical precedent (reconstruction) and *whites* ended it through violence.

    Whites have had sole custody of the country and done poorly in social justice, ...

    Replies: @Clyde, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @joe862, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @JEG, @Rosie, @AnotherDad, @Bill, @Alden, @PhysicistDave

    How would you know unless we tried it. We have one historical precedent (reconstruction) and *whites* ended it through violence.

    Are you forgetting about the “New South Africa”?

  101. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/DouthatNYT/status/1412416680601468934

    https://twitter.com/herandrews/status/1411453412584087555

    https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/1412436083288072195

    Replies: @S. Anonyia

    All of this could be resolved if public and private schools stopped presenting America as the center of the universe. Require that half of Social Studies/History courses focus on the rest of the globe.

    Ironically, “conservative” America-centric curriculum is what directly led to CRT. I imagine it’s a product of the Cold War and the curriculum was more sophisticated before that. No one with even a casual knowledge of world history seriously believes in CRT, because they are aware forms of slavery and discrimination existed in 90 + % of societies until fairly recently, and bad things happened to virtually ethnic group.

  102. @vhrm
    I don't like CRT, don't know who French is or why he's important enough to merit hate here (even after trying to read his wikipedia page) and I also dislike the examples used in the op-ed.

    That said, while i may think "OMG CRT is so wrong and corrosive it should be illegal", and i very much think that group differences are explained by HBD differences between groups rather than "systemic racism", I don't ACTUALLY think these kinds of laws about what can and can't be taught should be passed. Free speech and all that.

    Also, as a practical matter, by now everyone here should at least suspect that for the foreseeable future these things would be selectively enforced against the majority / plurality just like the rest of the anti-discriminations laws.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @gent, @Dmon, @Jefferson Temple, @Anonymous Jew, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Anonymous, @Bill Jones, @Getaclue, @Hibernian

    You seem to be in need of an IQ transplant.

  103. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1412567704012091392

    Replies: @Hi There, @ScarletNumber, @Rosie, @MEH 0910

    There used to be an expression “fighting with one hand tied behind my back”. If this debate was allowed in K-12 classrooms, it wouldn’t be a fair fight and the correct side would be forced to fight with one hand tied behind its back for fear of cancellation.

  104. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1412567704012091392

    Replies: @Hi There, @ScarletNumber, @Rosie, @MEH 0910

    Any teacher who responded to the anti-white allegations of Critical Race Theory by citing in class the factual statistics in Charles Murray’s new book “Facing Reality” about racial differences in crime rates and intelligence quotients would be canceled.

    Indeed. The establishment is in an awkward situation here because they’re trying to have it both ways. When attacking Whites, free speech is paramount. Then, if Whites attempt self-defense, all of a sudden sparing feelings and keeping the peace take precedence. At some point, it becomes obvious to even the most clueless.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Rosie

    On the contrary, anybody even vaguely familiar with Western directed Cold War era Communist propaganda, or with organizational leftist statements along the same period or more recently, knows this pattern. ["]Our demoralization efforts, defamation, agitation and pornography demand First Amendment protection; your criticism of us should be censored.["]

  105. @Peter Sellers
    It's not complex. It starts with humility to recognize the disparities are not only real, but institutionalized. What people find hard is relinquishing control of the process. **That's** been the obstacle to equality; but reconstruction while it lasted didn't see whites lynched.

    The most difficult decision for whites is to invite blacks into places of power. Do that in humility and "complex* issues dissolve; that is unless the object of power is still to control distribution of the wealth/resources kn of the country.

    there's no evidence that blacks will reciprocate the efforts white christian america has invested in opposing power sharing. It's easy to take the steps, but only if whites will humble themselves and trust a system they broke.

    a very practical reason is if you want end the fear you're equating with power sharing right now or continue to live in fear by perpetuating violence against blacks in order to maintain your privilege. Your choice.

    Would you accept your situation if the roles were reversed?

    How would you know unless we tried it. We have one historical precedent (reconstruction) and *whites* ended it through violence.

    Whites have had sole custody of the country and done poorly in social justice, ...

    Replies: @Clyde, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @joe862, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @JEG, @Rosie, @AnotherDad, @Bill, @Alden, @PhysicistDave

    It’s not complex. It starts with humility to recognize the disparities are not only real, but institutionalized. What people find hard is relinquishing control of the process.

    I hit the “troll” button cause that’s–i assume–what’s going on here. “Peter Sellers”.

    But this minoritarian verbiage (above) is always annoying.

    It, of course, is not complex. But while “relinquishing control” is an obvious disaster for any people/culture/nation, there is an easy/fair/decent way to figure out what’s causing the “disparities” and to address them–separation.

    Minorities go run their own stuff. What you see is what you get.

  106. Schools, particularly at the kindergarten-to-12th-grade level, are responsible for helping turn students into well-informed and discerning citizens.

    When the story leads with a blatant lie … Primary and secondary schools exist to inculcate certain beliefs and not to turn students into thinkers.

    After all, we shall never have equity as long as whites have more home equity than blacks.

    After all, we shall never have equity as long as whites have home equity.

    FIFY

    In contrast, who has ever heard of a white getting canceled for some minor violation of state-of-the-art prescribed jargon about race? That never happens.

    Ergo, negro. This was the label in my 1959 Funk and Wagnalls encyclopedia (available at the rate of one volume per week at the A&P grocery store) along with caucasion and oriental. If it’s good enough for Funk and Wagnalls, it’s good enough for me.

  107. @Yancey Ward
    Whores are for sale. Tell me something I don't know.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    Whores are for sale. Tell me something I don’t know.

    I say:

    Thought provoking.

    I want to know the price of the whores that are for sale.

    There are three dollar whores plying their ancient trade in all parts of the USA and most of those three dollar whores have more integrity and decency and honor than the average Republican Party politician whore and the average Republican Party/Conservatism Inc. propaganda whore such as David French.

  108. OT

    Washington Post lede: What to know about Haiti, where Jovenel Moise was just assinated.

    Here’s all you need to know about Haiti: negroes.

  109. @Hangnail Hans



    The authors are a cross-partisan group of thinkers
     
    Both parties? Well, that's everyone, right? Everyone that matters I mean.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “Well, that’s everyone, right?”

    Enough of the ankle-biting left-right ideologues. Time for some new ways.

  110. How about we start teaching scientific racism?
    You know, the HBD stuff, the IQ of Nations, different levels of criminality between races.

    Would not it help the robust debate in our schools?

  111. Bill says:
    @Peter Sellers
    It's not complex. It starts with humility to recognize the disparities are not only real, but institutionalized. What people find hard is relinquishing control of the process. **That's** been the obstacle to equality; but reconstruction while it lasted didn't see whites lynched.

    The most difficult decision for whites is to invite blacks into places of power. Do that in humility and "complex* issues dissolve; that is unless the object of power is still to control distribution of the wealth/resources kn of the country.

    there's no evidence that blacks will reciprocate the efforts white christian america has invested in opposing power sharing. It's easy to take the steps, but only if whites will humble themselves and trust a system they broke.

    a very practical reason is if you want end the fear you're equating with power sharing right now or continue to live in fear by perpetuating violence against blacks in order to maintain your privilege. Your choice.

    Would you accept your situation if the roles were reversed?

    How would you know unless we tried it. We have one historical precedent (reconstruction) and *whites* ended it through violence.

    Whites have had sole custody of the country and done poorly in social justice, ...

    Replies: @Clyde, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @joe862, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @JEG, @Rosie, @AnotherDad, @Bill, @Alden, @PhysicistDave

    What people find hard is relinquishing control of the process. **That’s** been the obstacle to equality; but reconstruction while it lasted didn’t see whites lynched.

    It’s a nice troll, but the fact is that most Americans do not know what Reconstruction was like. The disorder, the corruption, the violence directed against whites. The North gave up on it because it was so intolerable that Southern whites had started to take up arms to fight a guerilla war against their occupiers. That’s what the first KKK was all about. Obviously, this whole history has been retconned out of existence, replaced by whites rebelling against Reconstruction for no particular reason, you know, except for their inherent evil.

  112. @El Dato

    These measures would, by way of comparison, make Germany’s uncompromising and successful approach to teaching about the Holocaust illegal, as part of its goal is to infuse them with some sense of the weight of the past and (famously) lead many German students to feel anguish about their ancestry.

     

    To the point they are either abolishing themselves or else planning a last stand and playing it for keeps this time.

    Because these laws often aim to protect the feelings of hypothetical children, they are dangerously imprecise.
     
    More and more hypothetical children I imagine.

    Replies: @Reactive Reaction, @jamie b.

    “and (famously) lead many German students to feel anguish about their ancestry”

    Anguish about their ancestry? That’s a crime against humanity.

    And, not for nothing, it violates the prime directive of liberal democracy, which is, you are an individual, part of the great mass of humanity, author of your own life, no unchosen affiliations or identities, subservient to Amazon, Google, Apple, and Facebook, but able to sing the world anthem on New Year’s Eve: “imagine there’s no countries, it isn’t hard to do, nothing to kill or die for, and no religion, too”.

  113. @Reactive Reaction
    This is more typical craven GOP nonsense.

    They will ban "CRT" and declare victory. Their simps will go back to the NBA.

    And the teaching of anti-white hatred, which has had the same rationale and the same content for at least the past 30 years, will continue under a new name.

    "Critical race theory" is just a name. Anti-white hatred is the problem, and the GOP's "donor community" has no interest in banning that.

    Replies: @Catdog, @vhrm

    Wrong.

    CRT is now the shorthand way of saying “anti-white hate”, which is a mouthful. It’s a winning term to seize on and attack. Attacking CRT training in the last month of his presidency is one of the only good things Trump did in his final year. It’s giving the right an enemy to focus on as we regroup and reorganize.

  114. For about ten seconds there I could tell David French apart from David Frum annnnnd it’s gone.

  115. Tennessee House Bill SB 0623, for example, bans any teaching that could lead an individual to “feel discomfort, guilt, anguish or another form of psychological distress solely because of the individual’s race or sex.” In addition to this vague proscription, it restricts teaching that leads to “division between, or resentment of, a race, sex, religion, creed, nonviolent political affiliation, social class or class of people.”

    I don’t know if the “could lead” and “leads” here really capture the thrust of how these bills are written, but they do strike me as pretty candy ass.

    Minoritarianism in the US has gotten a lot of its traction simply because white Christian peoples tend toward Christian “nice”. I.e. the NW Euro settled-ag trait set tends toward “cooperative”. “Stand up straight and fly right” style criticism is ok. But we generally don’t try to be unnecessary–“you suck”–assholes. This reticence has given great purchase to more assholish peoples (originally Jews, then blacks and now others) pushing minoritarian lies.

    White people doing completely normal, necessary stuff to preserve themselves, their culture, their civilization is vilified as “racism”, “anti-Semitism”, “xenophobia”, “sexism”, “homophobia”.

    Obvious American example: post-War South. Large black ex-slave populations meant that if “democracy” and “fairness” reigned, normal white civilization would be eclipsed. So Southerners did unfair nasty “racist” shit that say my people in Iowa did not have to do to maintain “white supremacy”–i.e. civilization. We can tell the truth about that … but let’s tell the whole truth. The “why”.

    This whole “discomfort” angle to banning CRT strikes me as the nice-white-people, cucky, Christian angle. We need to move beyond that.

    Screw banning CRT. Ban minoritarianism wholesale. Conservatives should flip the minoritarian script and have the schools teach the truth–a couple basic truths:

    1) HBD. People and groups of people are different. Expecting them to have the same behavior and accomplishments is ridiculous.

    Blacks have problems because they are black. They descend from people in Africa who simply hadn’t had the long process of gene-culture co-evolution that people doing settled agriculture in temperate zone Europe (or temperate zone Asia) had.

    2) White people kick ass. Western Christian people/civilization have accomplished so much more than any other people it’s a joke. 95% of what we have–from the West. Sure other peoples–Chinese, Indian, Persians, etc. have done some interesting stuff. But white people have utterly kicked ass. With modern science the big kahuna.

    White people are why America is pleasant, peaceful, prosperous. If you ancestors weren’t slaves, you are here because American white people built something better in American than your ancestors did in wherever the hell they come from. If your ancestors were slaves–you’re are damn lucky they were because you get to live in America instead of Africa.

    Americans–rightly–have a republican orientation and character. We consider every person a free man, responsible for themselves. (No titles of nobility, we don’t give a shit about your daddy.) But if you’re going to start on ancestors and who’s done what… white people win. If you like modernity–you can thank Western Christian civilization–i.e. “white people” When it comes to civilizational accomplishment white people are the big swinging dicks.

    • Replies: @James Speaks
    @AnotherDad


    This whole “discomfort” angle to banning CRT strikes me as the nice-white-people, cucky, Christian angle. We need to move beyond that.
     
    A re-education camp for nicety-nice white peole might include the raising of chickens and sheep. If a camp resident wanted meat, they would have to slaughter one of the livestock. I think that would cure a lot of hypocrisy.
    , @Art Deco
    @AnotherDad

    I don’t know if the “could lead” and “leads” here really capture the thrust of how these bills are written, but they do strike me as pretty candy ass.

    It's a cherry-picked example. The smart money says it's a misleading one. And you notice he's not proposing more precise and less controvertible statutory language, he's trashing the whole project. David French and Ross Douthat are being kept on a short leash by the people who pay their salaries. Imagine that was your job. (French hasn't practiced law since 2005, bar one year as an Army JAG). People like Martin Peretz used to deride Yevgeny Yevtuschenko and Vladimir Pozner; our regime media shills are at least one ratchet lower morally, if not more.

  116. @Rosie
    @MEH 0910


    Any teacher who responded to the anti-white allegations of Critical Race Theory by citing in class the factual statistics in Charles Murray's new book "Facing Reality" about racial differences in crime rates and intelligence quotients would be canceled.
     
    Indeed. The establishment is in an awkward situation here because they're trying to have it both ways. When attacking Whites, free speech is paramount. Then, if Whites attempt self-defense, all of a sudden sparing feelings and keeping the peace take precedence. At some point, it becomes obvious to even the most clueless.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    On the contrary, anybody even vaguely familiar with Western directed Cold War era Communist propaganda, or with organizational leftist statements along the same period or more recently, knows this pattern. [“]Our demoralization efforts, defamation, agitation and pornography demand First Amendment protection; your criticism of us should be censored.[“]

  117. @JEG
    @Peter Sellers

    The current situation, in which whites, especially white men, are blamed for everything, cannot continue. The pendulum has gone too far in an anti-white direction. If the pendulum doesn't come back more in the middle, the white backlash is going to grow and grow.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Alden, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    Two more weeks. Trust the plan.

  118. Title of this article is why I’m not a conservative and never will be. Conservatives leadership is the reason why White Americans are on the long slide to extinction.

    Conservatism is controlled opposition. Divert Whites from real issues to outrage vulgar popular culture, abortion, tattoos, hair styles and colors and ignore affirmative action discrimination and unlimited immigration of non Whites to steal our livelihoods and make housing unaffordable. Black on White crime, school integration , destruction of our great cities by blacks Jews and liberals to conservative outrage about tattoos, abortion and other issues that don’t concern Whites.

    It’s controlled opposition. Conservatism is as anti White as liberalism is.

    • Agree: Corn
  119. The authors said:

    There will always be disagreement about any nation’s history. The United States is no exception. If history is to judge the United States as exceptional, it is because we welcome such contestation in our public spaces as part of our unfolding national ethos.

    “Contestation” is not what is happening in public schools with regards to the teaching of history. It’s the opposite of that, and you know it. The supposed “contestation” is unilateral, biased towards prevailing dominant theories or interpretations, and against older less prevalent (among those currently in power) interpretations…meaning that there is no contestation at all. You say “there will always be disagreement about history” while becoming part of a movement to remove any meaningful disagreement about history…and you think nobody will notice.

    Very implicit in the idea of “our public spaces” is that one can remove one’s self from such a space whenever they want to, but how do children in school do that? They don’t. They can’t. Children have no recourse against the powers that be in a school setting.

    David French and his ilk are a fraud. The propagandist NYT has offered him something (implicitly or explicitly) in return for his complicity.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    @J1234


    David French and his ilk are a fraud. The propagandist NYT has offered him something (implicitly or explicitly) in return for his complicity.
     
    Or maybe this is a man whose beliefs are endlessly flexible, shaped primarily by the highest bidder, a wordslinger for hire rather than an ideologue of any persuasion.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

  120. @Peter Sellers
    It's not complex. It starts with humility to recognize the disparities are not only real, but institutionalized. What people find hard is relinquishing control of the process. **That's** been the obstacle to equality; but reconstruction while it lasted didn't see whites lynched.

    The most difficult decision for whites is to invite blacks into places of power. Do that in humility and "complex* issues dissolve; that is unless the object of power is still to control distribution of the wealth/resources kn of the country.

    there's no evidence that blacks will reciprocate the efforts white christian america has invested in opposing power sharing. It's easy to take the steps, but only if whites will humble themselves and trust a system they broke.

    a very practical reason is if you want end the fear you're equating with power sharing right now or continue to live in fear by perpetuating violence against blacks in order to maintain your privilege. Your choice.

    Would you accept your situation if the roles were reversed?

    How would you know unless we tried it. We have one historical precedent (reconstruction) and *whites* ended it through violence.

    Whites have had sole custody of the country and done poorly in social justice, ...

    Replies: @Clyde, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @joe862, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @JEG, @Rosie, @AnotherDad, @Bill, @Alden, @PhysicistDave

    What are you babbling about?

  121. Saw this…
    ON THE OPPOSITION TO CRITICAL RACE THEORY IN SCHOOL
    “We aren’t trying to prevent schools from teaching about racism. We are trying to prevent schools from engaging in it.”

  122. Here’s the cuckservative flag. Maybe David French can use it in his next run for public office?

  123. French is a pro-Iraq War (still!) JAG. This bullshit finally coming to light implicates him and his entire milieu.

  124. If these guys really want an honest discussion of race, without concerns about offending anyone, let’s let them have it!

  125. To WHAT “robust debate” does this egghead refer??

    You try offering rebuttals to the endless list of black grievances, both in specifics and by questioning the premise that those “inequities” are the result of factors other than “white racism,” and see what happens!

    There is no “debate” about race! On one side is blacks attributing every group shortcoming to unverifiable and unfalsifiable theories about “systemic racism,” and on the other is whites offering varying degrees of apologies and guilty pleas! The only acceptable white response is to sit, listen patiently, and agree on how large a check to write!

    That isn’t debate, that’s qualified agreement, and the negotiated surrender that comes with it.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Jared Nelson

    To WHAT “robust debate” does this egghead refer??

    It is sort of like that "dialog on race" we are always supposed to have, only darker and with more aroma.

    https://www.saltpgh.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Robusta-coffee-bean.jpg

  126. …who has ever heard of a white getting canceled for some minor violation of state-of-the-art prescribed jargon about race? That never happens.

    The thing is, publick stool teachers are loyal servitors of the state, and its ideology.
    Thus they matter.

    Normal American citizens don’t matter, or otherwise have rights, or anything old-timey and White Supremacist like that.

  127. @JEG
    @Peter Sellers

    The current situation, in which whites, especially white men, are blamed for everything, cannot continue. The pendulum has gone too far in an anti-white direction. If the pendulum doesn't come back more in the middle, the white backlash is going to grow and grow.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Alden, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    unfortunately. Elite White men did it to other White men. Every president since Truman except Trump, the anti White affirmative action pro black criminal school budding satanic Supreme Court was all White men until the 1980s, after most of the damage was done. The most anti White Supreme Court decisions and orders, Brown vs Topeka, Griggs vs Duke Power Kaiser vs Weber were made by an all White man Supreme Court.

    For some bizarre reason, elite White men spent the second half of the 20th century making the laws designed to destroy the White race.

    • Replies: @Getaclue
    @Alden

    Are Jews "White"?

  128. @Gabe Ruth
    @Desiderius

    I like to troll a certain kind of cuck asking where in hell Dante put the antisemites.

    BTW, I quit twitter.com a few years ago (loved it too much, could kill hours scrolling, laughing and crying in equal measure), so I really appreciate your tweet posts, they're like methadone.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Paperback Writer

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Desiderius

    ISIS hardly exists anymore. The level of lethal political violence in Iraq declined by about 70% when ISIS was broken in 2017 and has declined another 85% since.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  129. Leaving aside Jews, Blacks, Muslims, Hindoos etc.. and every other calamity visited upon this once great nation; “Whites” like David French will surely be chronicled as the prime movers in it’s destruction.

  130. Anything David French supports is usually wrong. He probably really believes the crap he supports. He is a grifter and a tool, but a really stupid one.

  131. @Sick of Orcs
    French is the dweeb-cuck with a melanoid son. You can't make this shite up.

    Replies: @David In TN

    David French used to say he lived in Columbia, Tennessee. Actually, he lived south of Columbia in a rural area called Zion. It had become a Rich People neighborhood with a private Christian school used by people keeping their children out of the Columbia city schools.

    Around 2016 (the year Bill Kristol urged French to run for President) I tried to find somebody in Columbia who knew David French, so as to possibly meet him. Nobody had ever heard of him.

    The local paper ran a feature story on French after he “withdrew” from the presidential race. I learned his maternal grandfather, Charles David Black, was the principal of the elementary school I attended when I was in the first and second grade. Mr. Black (as we called him) left for a junior high school after my second grade year.

    Mr. Black didn’t resemble his grandson. He was then in his early 40s with a full head of dark hair and a stern manner. respected (and feared) by students. I have a vivid memory of an encounter with him at age six.

    A few years later, French moved to an upscale neighborhood in Franklin. In his columns he inferred his attacks on Trump (“I live in Trump country,” he wrote) and his voters in his NRO columns upset his neighbors “forcing” him to move.

    • Thanks: Sick of Orcs
  132. @Corn
    @Clyde

    David French’s photo should be in the dictionary next to the entry for “controlled opposition”.

    Replies: @Clyde

    David French’s photo should be in the dictionary next to the entry for “controlled opposition”.

    Calling this baldhead stooge controlled opposition is a compliment. This conceited turd is much lower than this.

  133. @AnotherDad

    Tennessee House Bill SB 0623, for example, bans any teaching that could lead an individual to “feel discomfort, guilt, anguish or another form of psychological distress solely because of the individual’s race or sex.” In addition to this vague proscription, it restricts teaching that leads to “division between, or resentment of, a race, sex, religion, creed, nonviolent political affiliation, social class or class of people.”
     
    I don't know if the "could lead" and "leads" here really capture the thrust of how these bills are written, but they do strike me as pretty candy ass.

    Minoritarianism in the US has gotten a lot of its traction simply because white Christian peoples tend toward Christian "nice". I.e. the NW Euro settled-ag trait set tends toward "cooperative". "Stand up straight and fly right" style criticism is ok. But we generally don't try to be unnecessary--"you suck"--assholes. This reticence has given great purchase to more assholish peoples (originally Jews, then blacks and now others) pushing minoritarian lies.

    White people doing completely normal, necessary stuff to preserve themselves, their culture, their civilization is vilified as "racism", "anti-Semitism", "xenophobia", "sexism", "homophobia".

    Obvious American example: post-War South. Large black ex-slave populations meant that if "democracy" and "fairness" reigned, normal white civilization would be eclipsed. So Southerners did unfair nasty "racist" shit that say my people in Iowa did not have to do to maintain "white supremacy"--i.e. civilization. We can tell the truth about that ... but let's tell the whole truth. The "why".


    This whole "discomfort" angle to banning CRT strikes me as the nice-white-people, cucky, Christian angle. We need to move beyond that.

    Screw banning CRT. Ban minoritarianism wholesale. Conservatives should flip the minoritarian script and have the schools teach the truth--a couple basic truths:

    1) HBD. People and groups of people are different. Expecting them to have the same behavior and accomplishments is ridiculous.

    Blacks have problems because they are black. They descend from people in Africa who simply hadn't had the long process of gene-culture co-evolution that people doing settled agriculture in temperate zone Europe (or temperate zone Asia) had.

    2) White people kick ass. Western Christian people/civilization have accomplished so much more than any other people it's a joke. 95% of what we have--from the West. Sure other peoples--Chinese, Indian, Persians, etc. have done some interesting stuff. But white people have utterly kicked ass. With modern science the big kahuna.

    White people are why America is pleasant, peaceful, prosperous. If you ancestors weren't slaves, you are here because American white people built something better in American than your ancestors did in wherever the hell they come from. If your ancestors were slaves--you're are damn lucky they were because you get to live in America instead of Africa.

    Americans--rightly--have a republican orientation and character. We consider every person a free man, responsible for themselves. (No titles of nobility, we don't give a shit about your daddy.) But if you're going to start on ancestors and who's done what... white people win. If you like modernity--you can thank Western Christian civilization--i.e. "white people" When it comes to civilizational accomplishment white people are the big swinging dicks.

    Replies: @James Speaks, @Art Deco

    This whole “discomfort” angle to banning CRT strikes me as the nice-white-people, cucky, Christian angle. We need to move beyond that.

    A re-education camp for nicety-nice white peole might include the raising of chickens and sheep. If a camp resident wanted meat, they would have to slaughter one of the livestock. I think that would cure a lot of hypocrisy.

  134. The authors are a cross-partisan group of thinkers

    Isn’t David French more properly referred to as “trans-partisan”?

  135. I had no idea who this “David French” is until I read some of the comments. Even then I’m not sure why anyone would care what he says.

    He is a useful Narrative Tool since he is a pretend Republican, or was.

    Useful in the sense that by publishing stooges like him, the Times can pat itself on the back for its fairness to all viewpoints.

    Normally the Woke BioLeninists are demanding certain ideas and thoughts be either banned or made mandatory. Now this whiner is complaining about some push-back on the modern version of
    “Dialectal Materialism” conceptual nonsense Marxists formerly peddled.

    We then know that being against teaching CRT in schools is the correct line, because French is opposed to it. The silver lining here is that if this is the best they can do, they have failed miserably to sell this “theory” to anyone else.

    Next Up: French on why the GULAGs weren’t so bad…

  136. @AnotherDad

    Tennessee House Bill SB 0623, for example, bans any teaching that could lead an individual to “feel discomfort, guilt, anguish or another form of psychological distress solely because of the individual’s race or sex.” In addition to this vague proscription, it restricts teaching that leads to “division between, or resentment of, a race, sex, religion, creed, nonviolent political affiliation, social class or class of people.”
     
    I don't know if the "could lead" and "leads" here really capture the thrust of how these bills are written, but they do strike me as pretty candy ass.

    Minoritarianism in the US has gotten a lot of its traction simply because white Christian peoples tend toward Christian "nice". I.e. the NW Euro settled-ag trait set tends toward "cooperative". "Stand up straight and fly right" style criticism is ok. But we generally don't try to be unnecessary--"you suck"--assholes. This reticence has given great purchase to more assholish peoples (originally Jews, then blacks and now others) pushing minoritarian lies.

    White people doing completely normal, necessary stuff to preserve themselves, their culture, their civilization is vilified as "racism", "anti-Semitism", "xenophobia", "sexism", "homophobia".

    Obvious American example: post-War South. Large black ex-slave populations meant that if "democracy" and "fairness" reigned, normal white civilization would be eclipsed. So Southerners did unfair nasty "racist" shit that say my people in Iowa did not have to do to maintain "white supremacy"--i.e. civilization. We can tell the truth about that ... but let's tell the whole truth. The "why".


    This whole "discomfort" angle to banning CRT strikes me as the nice-white-people, cucky, Christian angle. We need to move beyond that.

    Screw banning CRT. Ban minoritarianism wholesale. Conservatives should flip the minoritarian script and have the schools teach the truth--a couple basic truths:

    1) HBD. People and groups of people are different. Expecting them to have the same behavior and accomplishments is ridiculous.

    Blacks have problems because they are black. They descend from people in Africa who simply hadn't had the long process of gene-culture co-evolution that people doing settled agriculture in temperate zone Europe (or temperate zone Asia) had.

    2) White people kick ass. Western Christian people/civilization have accomplished so much more than any other people it's a joke. 95% of what we have--from the West. Sure other peoples--Chinese, Indian, Persians, etc. have done some interesting stuff. But white people have utterly kicked ass. With modern science the big kahuna.

    White people are why America is pleasant, peaceful, prosperous. If you ancestors weren't slaves, you are here because American white people built something better in American than your ancestors did in wherever the hell they come from. If your ancestors were slaves--you're are damn lucky they were because you get to live in America instead of Africa.

    Americans--rightly--have a republican orientation and character. We consider every person a free man, responsible for themselves. (No titles of nobility, we don't give a shit about your daddy.) But if you're going to start on ancestors and who's done what... white people win. If you like modernity--you can thank Western Christian civilization--i.e. "white people" When it comes to civilizational accomplishment white people are the big swinging dicks.

    Replies: @James Speaks, @Art Deco

    I don’t know if the “could lead” and “leads” here really capture the thrust of how these bills are written, but they do strike me as pretty candy ass.

    It’s a cherry-picked example. The smart money says it’s a misleading one. And you notice he’s not proposing more precise and less controvertible statutory language, he’s trashing the whole project. David French and Ross Douthat are being kept on a short leash by the people who pay their salaries. Imagine that was your job. (French hasn’t practiced law since 2005, bar one year as an Army JAG). People like Martin Peretz used to deride Yevgeny Yevtuschenko and Vladimir Pozner; our regime media shills are at least one ratchet lower morally, if not more.

  137. @Desiderius
    @Gabe Ruth

    https://twitter.com/gaitanalyst/status/1412241316759605254?s=20

    Replies: @Art Deco

    ISIS hardly exists anymore. The level of lethal political violence in Iraq declined by about 70% when ISIS was broken in 2017 and has declined another 85% since.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Art Deco

    You replied to the wrong comment. The point of the comment you replied to was to illustrate what a paper tiger the militaries set up by our trillions in the Middle East are.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  138. @El Dato

    These measures would, by way of comparison, make Germany’s uncompromising and successful approach to teaching about the Holocaust illegal, as part of its goal is to infuse them with some sense of the weight of the past and (famously) lead many German students to feel anguish about their ancestry.

     

    To the point they are either abolishing themselves or else planning a last stand and playing it for keeps this time.

    Because these laws often aim to protect the feelings of hypothetical children, they are dangerously imprecise.
     
    More and more hypothetical children I imagine.

    Replies: @Reactive Reaction, @jamie b.

    …or else planning a last stand and playing it for keeps this time.

    What do you mean by that?

  139. @Alfa158
    @Clyde

    Deliberately so, Duck is usually pretty good about inserting carefully crafted illiteracy as a way of letting us know it is him, and that we’re supposed to laugh at the ineptness of the Woke.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    It was mildly amusing the first 17,000 times……

  140. @Reactive Reaction
    This is more typical craven GOP nonsense.

    They will ban "CRT" and declare victory. Their simps will go back to the NBA.

    And the teaching of anti-white hatred, which has had the same rationale and the same content for at least the past 30 years, will continue under a new name.

    "Critical race theory" is just a name. Anti-white hatred is the problem, and the GOP's "donor community" has no interest in banning that.

    Replies: @Catdog, @vhrm

    This is more typical craven GOP nonsense.

    They will ban “CRT” and declare victory. Their simps will go back to the NBA.

    And the teaching of anti-white hatred, which has had the same rationale and the same content for at least the past 30 years, will continue under a new name.

    “Critical race theory” is just a name. Anti-white hatred is the problem, and the GOP’s “donor community” has no interest in banning that.

    This is generally my sense of these laws as well. Somewhat like Cuomo’s latest posturing on guns in New York: it will do absolutely nothing to address the crime in the streets and just create more headaches and costs for law abiding gun owners (and, transfer more money to lawyers).

  141. @Charles Pewitt
    In contrast, while you never hear about redlining, countless school districts mandate a week of instruction on how George W. Bush’s Increasing Minority Homeownership diversity push set off the Housing Bubble and Bust of 2008.

    I say:

    I am currently entertaining the option of starting an exploratory committee to contemplate proceeding with a possible 2022 Republican Party US Senate primary election campaign for the great state of New Hampshire and my preliminary slogan or motto shall be:

    AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION FOR THE WHITE CORE AMERICAN NATION.

    But,

    Bringing much needed publicity to this 15 or so years ago then-president George W Bush push for more mortgages by encouraging non-Whites to get mortgages aspect of the Second Great Asset Bubble is also on my mind and New Hampshire has a huge amount of genius slobs born before 1965 who think their real estate unrealized gains are the cat's meow but currently they are getting hammered by high and pricey property tax assessments that do them not much good if they're keeping their asses in their current year 2021 Fed-induced bloated price abodes.

    Everywhere the George W Bush era real estate asset bubble expanded and ballooned and not just in the sand states or the states loaded the Hell up with non-Whites or so-called "minorities."

    I would blame the privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank first off but Sailer's idea about that greedy myopic stupid and evil baby boomer boob George W Bush pushing and prodding the real estate bubble by grabbing every White and non-White and creating mortgages to create clam raking opportunities for the FIRE sector is a part of it.

    This bit by Sailer will never be a headline in the NY Times or the WSJ but it is accurate:

    George W. Bush’s Increasing Minority Homeownership diversity push set off the Housing Bubble and Bust of 2008.

     

    As to David French I say that if I am elected to the US Senate I will sponsor a modest proposal bill to remove David French from Tennessee and legally and comfortably and forcibly exile him to a hot and humid and fetid part of sub-Saharan Africa.

    Replies: @Odin

    At unz.com punctuation is free. Some judiciously distributed commas and periods might well advance this comment to readability.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Odin

    At unz.com punctuation is free.

    Absolutely. Also



    is free, but Charles Pewitt doesn't yet grasp these facts. No idea why.

    Replies: @anon

  142. @Art Deco
    @Desiderius

    ISIS hardly exists anymore. The level of lethal political violence in Iraq declined by about 70% when ISIS was broken in 2017 and has declined another 85% since.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    You replied to the wrong comment. The point of the comment you replied to was to illustrate what a paper tiger the militaries set up by our trillions in the Middle East are.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Desiderius

    If the Iraqi military actually was a paper tiger, the Iraqi government would have ceased to exist in 2014. That did not happen.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  143. @Peter Sellers
    It's not complex. It starts with humility to recognize the disparities are not only real, but institutionalized. What people find hard is relinquishing control of the process. **That's** been the obstacle to equality; but reconstruction while it lasted didn't see whites lynched.

    The most difficult decision for whites is to invite blacks into places of power. Do that in humility and "complex* issues dissolve; that is unless the object of power is still to control distribution of the wealth/resources kn of the country.

    there's no evidence that blacks will reciprocate the efforts white christian america has invested in opposing power sharing. It's easy to take the steps, but only if whites will humble themselves and trust a system they broke.

    a very practical reason is if you want end the fear you're equating with power sharing right now or continue to live in fear by perpetuating violence against blacks in order to maintain your privilege. Your choice.

    Would you accept your situation if the roles were reversed?

    How would you know unless we tried it. We have one historical precedent (reconstruction) and *whites* ended it through violence.

    Whites have had sole custody of the country and done poorly in social justice, ...

    Replies: @Clyde, @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @joe862, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @JEG, @Rosie, @AnotherDad, @Bill, @Alden, @PhysicistDave

    Peter Sellers asked:

    Would you accept your situation if the roles were reversed?

    Well… my kids had test scores higher than the median for kids admitted to Stanford, Hahvahd, etc.

    If they had been Blacks, they would have been shoo-ins.

    But since they were half-Asian, half-Caucasian…

    Yeah, I would switch positions in a heartbeat with African-Americans!

    But, being a well-behaved civic nationalist, I am willing to settle simply for equal justice under the law.

    Perhaps you have heard of that concept?

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @PhysicistDave


    Yeah, I would switch positions in a heartbeat with African-Americans!
     
    No Dave, you really wouldn't.

    Political position, position in the minoritarian totem pole--i.e. near the top--sure.

    But waking up in looking in the mirror ... looking outside and seeing your neighbors ... uh ... no.
    , @Alden
    @PhysicistDave

    All your kids had to do was check the half asian half black box. And write a sob story admissions essay about the horrors of being black in America.

    Happened to my son in law’s half asian nephew. The asian grandparents who paid for private school and extensive tutoring heaped much shame on him and his mother.

    I advised him to go to community college or work for a year and reapply as a black. He did and got into Stanford. The asian grandparents are thrilled. Strange people these Chinese. Seem to think Stanford and Harvard are the only colleges in the country.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @PhysicistDave

    Civic nationalism is for white people, and only white people.

  144. @PhysicistDave
    @Peter Sellers

    Peter Sellers asked:


    Would you accept your situation if the roles were reversed?
     
    Well... my kids had test scores higher than the median for kids admitted to Stanford, Hahvahd, etc.

    If they had been Blacks, they would have been shoo-ins.

    But since they were half-Asian, half-Caucasian...

    Yeah, I would switch positions in a heartbeat with African-Americans!

    But, being a well-behaved civic nationalist, I am willing to settle simply for equal justice under the law.

    Perhaps you have heard of that concept?

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Alden, @The Anti-Gnostic

    Yeah, I would switch positions in a heartbeat with African-Americans!

    No Dave, you really wouldn’t.

    Political position, position in the minoritarian totem pole–i.e. near the top–sure.

    But waking up in looking in the mirror … looking outside and seeing your neighbors … uh … no.

  145. @Anonymous Jew
    @vhrm

    In some bizarro world I would agree with you, but we’re long past the point of fighting the left with principles. The left gets this and the establishment right still can’t figure it out. The war of ideas is over. This is just war. Principles only work when you’re dealing with people that are willing to play by the rules.

    Sailer makes this clear:


    Likewise, what school district doesn’t mandate a class on how black criminals destroyed American big cities in order to instill guilt and better behavior in blacks and to teach white children that they must never forget and never again acquiesce to the criminal violence that drove their ancestors into suburban exile from their once great cities?
     
    If teachers could say the above freely - the opposite of CRT - you’d have a point. But they can’t. So why should we allow anyone to advocate CRT to 8–year-olds?

    Replies: @vhrm

    In some bizarro world I would agree with you, but we’re long past the point of fighting the left with principles. The left gets this and the establishment right still can’t figure it out. The war of ideas is over. This is just war. Principles only work when you’re dealing with people that are willing to play by the rules.

    The war of ideas is not over. It’s war, but it’s a culture war and the kids are going to absorb more of the values on this stuff from TikTok, youtube and TV than from what their teachers tell them.

    These laws are at the same time oppressive and too narrow. Also after a five of ridiculing “safe spaces” i’m not going to suddenly applaud conservatives passing CRT safe space laws.

    If teachers could say the above freely – the opposite of CRT – you’d have a point. But they can’t. So why should we allow anyone to advocate CRT to 8–year-olds?

    I’m saying that these state level laws (esp. as distinct from just procedural changes to existing curriculum “standards” of the NCLB era) won’t actually even necessarily prevent that.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @vhrm

    They're not oppressive for God's sake, they're the state governments finally doing their job for once.

    How can you not be aware of all the restrictions that are already in place? Are those oppressive? Where have you been for fifty years as that grip has ever tightened?

    More and more embarrassing every comment.

  146. @kaganovitch
    They don't call him Vichy French for nothing.

    Replies: @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Bugg, @Ragno

    Touche!

  147. Rob says:
    @Alden
    freerepublic.com

    Mathilde Cohen Jew professor at University of Connecticut went to Paris and Nanterre to make anti French speech. Her talk was that French food and cooking is racist and White supremacist and is anti minority.

    I do remember that every time the Muslims demonstrated against stores that sell pork and the school dress code that’s standard European dress instead of Muslim shrouds, any Muslim protest, the Rabbi organizations were right there demonstrating with the Muslims.

    I remember when the teachers union and other anti White liberals were agitating against milk as part of school lunch and milk and cheese in those health * nutrition classes because it’s white in color and another symbol of white supremacy.

    In another couple generations, the liberals will do to us what Stalin did to Russians

    Replies: @Rob

    In another couple generations, the liberals will do to us what Stalin did to Russians

    Couple generations? Seriously? You are an optimist. I could see it start in the Northeast in another couple weeks.

    Oh, you mean to flyover whites? Yeah, I could see that taking longer. OTOH, the US government will not be 90-odd percent blacks, hispanics, and GoodWhite women, and function well enough to hold states together if they really wanted to go. Competence in government is on a downswing. One that is basically irreversible without repudiating their ideology. IQ-style testing could hold against some of the rot. But they cannot do that. Of the ascendants, white women would win all the top jobs. Shaniqua did not go to all that work to purge white men, just to take orders from his sisters. They could not just test blacks, because theee aren’t enough smart ones…White men will stop joining the military when it goes full transBlaq. Without whites, competency takes a huge hit. Planes and ships are the military’s big competitive advantage. The Navy is already having trouble keeping ships above water. They cannot find more than a handful of women and blacks who are capable of flying the fancy stuff, and that is after decades of hard searching. If the military gets rid of their IQ test, we’ll,..lol!

    The left is running out of runway. Before the whole country goes minority and incompetent, the woke institutions will.

    The shitshow won’t last 40 years.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Rob

    Washington Post wants to send the American military to Haiti because the president was murdered early this morning. Because American military has a sacred obligation to save Haiti from itself and help the helpless feckless clueless pathetic blacks progress towards democracy.

    I’d love to see a rabble of Haitian teen kids defeat out military in a set battle.

  148. @Gaspar DeLaFunk
    @kaganovitch

    He is such a turd.

    Replies: @anon

    He is such a turd.

    Well, that’s sure to convince anyone not already convinced.

    But thanks, all the same, for such a quality contribution to the discussion.

  149. @Desiderius
    @Art Deco

    You replied to the wrong comment. The point of the comment you replied to was to illustrate what a paper tiger the militaries set up by our trillions in the Middle East are.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    If the Iraqi military actually was a paper tiger, the Iraqi government would have ceased to exist in 2014. That did not happen.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Art Deco

    I'm sure our "advisors" have nothing to do with that at all.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke, @Art Deco

  150. @Odin
    @Charles Pewitt

    At unz.com punctuation is free. Some judiciously distributed commas and periods might well advance this comment to readability.

    Replies: @anon

    At unz.com punctuation is free.

    Absolutely. Also

    [MORE]

    is free, but Charles Pewitt doesn’t yet grasp these facts. No idea why.

    • Replies: @anon
    @anon

    Why Sailer never at least encourages courteous use of [MORE] is beyond me.

    At the top of any list of the worst serial offenders would have to be one commenter with his QAnon spam, and another who, whenever the topic of white vs. non-white aesthetic beauty comes-up, invariably posts what appear to be the same, multiple photos of black, Asian and white women.

  151. @Art Deco
    @Desiderius

    If the Iraqi military actually was a paper tiger, the Iraqi government would have ceased to exist in 2014. That did not happen.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    I’m sure our “advisors” have nothing to do with that at all.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    @Desiderius


    I’m sure our “advisors” have nothing to do with that at all.
     
    If advisors alone could keep a government standing against an attacking force, there would still be two Vietnams.
    , @Art Deco
    @Desiderius

    There are 5,000 American troops in Iraq. Might be enough to secure Mosul if they were deployed that way.

  152. Those who cry out don’t get influence.

  153. @vhrm
    @Anonymous Jew


    In some bizarro world I would agree with you, but we’re long past the point of fighting the left with principles. The left gets this and the establishment right still can’t figure it out. The war of ideas is over. This is just war. Principles only work when you’re dealing with people that are willing to play by the rules.

     

    The war of ideas is not over. It's war, but it's a culture war and the kids are going to absorb more of the values on this stuff from TikTok, youtube and TV than from what their teachers tell them.

    These laws are at the same time oppressive and too narrow. Also after a five of ridiculing "safe spaces" i'm not going to suddenly applaud conservatives passing CRT safe space laws.

    If teachers could say the above freely – the opposite of CRT – you’d have a point. But they can’t. So why should we allow anyone to advocate CRT to 8–year-olds?

     

    I'm saying that these state level laws (esp. as distinct from just procedural changes to existing curriculum "standards" of the NCLB era) won't actually even necessarily prevent that.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    They’re not oppressive for God’s sake, they’re the state governments finally doing their job for once.

    How can you not be aware of all the restrictions that are already in place? Are those oppressive? Where have you been for fifty years as that grip has ever tightened?

    More and more embarrassing every comment.

  154. Greg Hood also thinks we should teach CRT and have those “courageous conversations about race”:
    https://www.unz.com/ghood/yes-teach-critical-race-theory-in-schools/

    Of course they’ll never teach it the way Hood would like, i.e. honestly and openly; heads would explode like so much bubble wrap.

    John Derbyshire likewise says “bring it on” in his video on General Mark Milley. To Milley’s talk about how, just as an open mind makes sure to read Marx and Lenin, so it should take an interest in “white rage”, Derb points out a glaring asymmetry: Milley reads Marx to learn about Marxism, but he doesn’t read Jared Taylor to learn about “white rage”, he reads Ibram Kendi. Which is like learning about Marxism from Senator Joseph McCarthy.

  155. @anon
    the source of his ressentiment is everyone assumes he's a jew. sad.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/David-French-1200x630.jpg

    Replies: @International Jew

    I resent him (a little) and don’t for a moment think there’s anything Jewish about him.

    But now that I think of it, he does look like a plausible child of Prince Harry and Mayim Bialik.

  156. The authors are a cross-partisan group of thinkers

    Try putting “thinker” on the next resume you send out. Apparently some people think while others don’t think, or just think they think, wouldn’t you think?

  157. @Bugg
    @kaganovitch

    The Future for our goodwhites; David French being reamed in the keister by a large section 8 welfare recipient, forever.

    Replies: @Clyde

    The Future for our goodwhites; David French being reamed in the keister by a large section 8 welfare recipient, forever.

    Not enough for Frenchie who craves 3rd world abuse. This section 8 dude(s) will have his Timberland boots stamping on Frenchie’s face — *Forever*. Though intermittently.

  158. @Jared Nelson
    To WHAT "robust debate" does this egghead refer??

    You try offering rebuttals to the endless list of black grievances, both in specifics and by questioning the premise that those "inequities" are the result of factors other than "white racism," and see what happens!

    There is no "debate" about race! On one side is blacks attributing every group shortcoming to unverifiable and unfalsifiable theories about "systemic racism," and on the other is whites offering varying degrees of apologies and guilty pleas! The only acceptable white response is to sit, listen patiently, and agree on how large a check to write!

    That isn't debate, that's qualified agreement, and the negotiated surrender that comes with it.

    Replies: @anon

    To WHAT “robust debate” does this egghead refer??

    It is sort of like that “dialog on race” we are always supposed to have, only darker and with more aroma.


  159. [MORE]

    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    @MEH 0910

    The teachers’ (public) union will support any addition to the curriculum — even if it’s WS indoctrination — so long as it increases the number of credentialed, dues paying babysitters on the school (tax) payroll.

    Indeed, the more de-emphasis on “covering” the 3Rs — their prime directive (and most embarrassing failure) — the better.

    That the incremental, union hiring is driven by left-wing indoctrination imperatives is all gravy.

  160. anon[221] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Desiderius


    The black hole here that one can only infer from the behavior of the particles surrounding it is that way too many people who should know better are still being taken in by French and his arguments and must be quoting/forwarding to their friends in the halls of power.
     
    French's purpose is to obscure the argument and confound the right with red herring objections which he claims are appeals to "conservative principles" but which are designed to preemptively doom the right to failure.

    The most ridiculous lie he's been telling is that banning CRT is somehow contrary to the First Amendment, as if school curricula already don't prohibit the teaching of any manner of true things which the regime finds objectionable to its ends.

    That he gets treated as anything less than a saboteur is a testament to the right's penchant for spectacular failure.

    Replies: @anon

    French’s purpose is to obscure the argument and confound the right with red herring objections which he claims are appeals to “conservative principles” but which are designed to preemptively doom the right to failure.

    Perhaps that may be reasonably as being the effect of French’s arguments but how could you know such to be his purpose?

    BTW, I’ve always wondered about the additional, seemingly gratuitous information that you volunteer with the parenthetical statements that you add to your various posting handles. Forgive me, but is there some particular reason why the reader should be expected to find of interest the seemingly irrelevant detail of whether you were “working at home” or “hard at work”, etc., while posting any given comment?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @anon

    Says the 221st courageous anonymous poster.

    Replies: @anon

  161. anon[236] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    @Odin

    At unz.com punctuation is free.

    Absolutely. Also



    is free, but Charles Pewitt doesn't yet grasp these facts. No idea why.

    Replies: @anon

    Why Sailer never at least encourages courteous use of [MORE] is beyond me.

    At the top of any list of the worst serial offenders would have to be one commenter with his QAnon spam, and another who, whenever the topic of white vs. non-white aesthetic beauty comes-up, invariably posts what appear to be the same, multiple photos of black, Asian and white women.

  162. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1411476008255909892

    https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1411478356252446720

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education

    The teachers’ (public) union will support any addition to the curriculum — even if it’s WS indoctrination — so long as it increases the number of credentialed, dues paying babysitters on the school (tax) payroll.

    Indeed, the more de-emphasis on “covering” the 3Rs — their prime directive (and most embarrassing failure) — the better.

    That the incremental, union hiring is driven by left-wing indoctrination imperatives is all gravy.

  163. @Alden
    @JEG

    unfortunately. Elite White men did it to other White men. Every president since Truman except Trump, the anti White affirmative action pro black criminal school budding satanic Supreme Court was all White men until the 1980s, after most of the damage was done. The most anti White Supreme Court decisions and orders, Brown vs Topeka, Griggs vs Duke Power Kaiser vs Weber were made by an all White man Supreme Court.

    For some bizarre reason, elite White men spent the second half of the 20th century making the laws designed to destroy the White race.

    Replies: @Getaclue

    Are Jews “White”?

  164. @Gabe Ruth
    @Desiderius

    I like to troll a certain kind of cuck asking where in hell Dante put the antisemites.

    BTW, I quit twitter.com a few years ago (loved it too much, could kill hours scrolling, laughing and crying in equal measure), so I really appreciate your tweet posts, they're like methadone.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Paperback Writer

    It’s a waste of time for guys like us to tweet, but it’s interesting to read pundits just to see what they are saying.

    James Lindsay (@ConceptualJames) and Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) are good examples of centrist white guys who have become radicalized by, respectively, CRT and BLM.

    The latter is particularly interesting because he used to be a real squish. He’s become totally based.

  165. @vhrm
    I don't like CRT, don't know who French is or why he's important enough to merit hate here (even after trying to read his wikipedia page) and I also dislike the examples used in the op-ed.

    That said, while i may think "OMG CRT is so wrong and corrosive it should be illegal", and i very much think that group differences are explained by HBD differences between groups rather than "systemic racism", I don't ACTUALLY think these kinds of laws about what can and can't be taught should be passed. Free speech and all that.

    Also, as a practical matter, by now everyone here should at least suspect that for the foreseeable future these things would be selectively enforced against the majority / plurality just like the rest of the anti-discriminations laws.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @gent, @Dmon, @Jefferson Temple, @Anonymous Jew, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Anonymous, @Bill Jones, @Getaclue, @Hibernian

    You are clueless as to how School Teachers are regulated — you never heard of a “Lesson Plan”? What is taught in Schools is highly regulated and overseen — they just want a Racist Hate YT Agenda taught — there will be “Lesson Plans” — if you taught what Sailer points out as the opposing view you would be asked to show your “Lesson Plan” and then you would be terminated that day….Teaching Racial Hatred to children in school only goes one way — the Hate YT way.

  166. @Rob
    @Alden


    In another couple generations, the liberals will do to us what Stalin did to Russians
     
    Couple generations? Seriously? You are an optimist. I could see it start in the Northeast in another couple weeks.

    Oh, you mean to flyover whites? Yeah, I could see that taking longer. OTOH, the US government will not be 90-odd percent blacks, hispanics, and GoodWhite women, and function well enough to hold states together if they really wanted to go. Competence in government is on a downswing. One that is basically irreversible without repudiating their ideology. IQ-style testing could hold against some of the rot. But they cannot do that. Of the ascendants, white women would win all the top jobs. Shaniqua did not go to all that work to purge white men, just to take orders from his sisters. They could not just test blacks, because theee aren’t enough smart ones…White men will stop joining the military when it goes full transBlaq. Without whites, competency takes a huge hit. Planes and ships are the military’s big competitive advantage. The Navy is already having trouble keeping ships above water. They cannot find more than a handful of women and blacks who are capable of flying the fancy stuff, and that is after decades of hard searching. If the military gets rid of their IQ test, we’ll,..lol!

    The left is running out of runway. Before the whole country goes minority and incompetent, the woke institutions will.

    The shitshow won’t last 40 years.

    Replies: @Alden

    Washington Post wants to send the American military to Haiti because the president was murdered early this morning. Because American military has a sacred obligation to save Haiti from itself and help the helpless feckless clueless pathetic blacks progress towards democracy.

    I’d love to see a rabble of Haitian teen kids defeat out military in a set battle.

  167. David “controlled opposition” French

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @bigdicknick

    His sense of justice seems to apply only to establishment-approved types. He fully endorsed the harsh treatment of Gazans by the IDF.

    Replies: @Clyde

  168. @PhysicistDave
    @Peter Sellers

    Peter Sellers asked:


    Would you accept your situation if the roles were reversed?
     
    Well... my kids had test scores higher than the median for kids admitted to Stanford, Hahvahd, etc.

    If they had been Blacks, they would have been shoo-ins.

    But since they were half-Asian, half-Caucasian...

    Yeah, I would switch positions in a heartbeat with African-Americans!

    But, being a well-behaved civic nationalist, I am willing to settle simply for equal justice under the law.

    Perhaps you have heard of that concept?

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Alden, @The Anti-Gnostic

    All your kids had to do was check the half asian half black box. And write a sob story admissions essay about the horrors of being black in America.

    Happened to my son in law’s half asian nephew. The asian grandparents who paid for private school and extensive tutoring heaped much shame on him and his mother.

    I advised him to go to community college or work for a year and reapply as a black. He did and got into Stanford. The asian grandparents are thrilled. Strange people these Chinese. Seem to think Stanford and Harvard are the only colleges in the country.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @Alden

    Alden wrote to me:


    All your kids had to do was check the half asian half black box. And write a sob story admissions essay about the horrors of being black in America.
     
    It did cross my mind. But being a good civ-nat family, we played by the rules (cue in for "And that's why you civ-nats are idiots!").

    Alden also wrote:

    Strange people these Chinese. Seem to think Stanford and Harvard are the only colleges in the country.
     
    Yeah, actually rather myopic. My middle brother was a Stanford grad and a Wash. U. MBA: by most standards, his career was one failure after another. My youngest brother had a BA from Harvard: he is a poor but self-satisfied starving artist.

    I have known grads from Sacramento State and Cal Poly who, by any reasoanble standard, had much better careers.

    Which is actually good news.

    To be sure, the Sac State and Cal Poly grads I am thinking of were, respectively, a structural engineer and an architect: they actually did work. If your goal is to join the parasitic verbalist overclass, maybe the Ivy-plus schools make sense.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  169. Anonymous[303] • Disclaimer says:

    How long does David French think it will take Palestinians to arrive at the level of Jews? Will Nakba trauma last maybe a few centuries? And then, Palestinians will be as rich and privileged as the Jews. After many years of much-deserved affirmative action of course.

    Some things don’t make sense. If blacks are held back by past oppression, why are they so good at sports? Shouldn’t their despairing emotional state prevent them from exerting themselves in all competitive fields? Could that have to do with biology? Oddly enough, blacks have the highest self-esteem in America.

    And what about the Chinese? Their history has been pretty miserable for several centuries due to all sorts of calamities of internal and external origins.. But once given the opportunity, they seem to be making great strides in engineering and the like, even though they have less opportunities than black Americans, surely the most indulged people on Earth. And yet, the Chinese remain hopeless in sprint and basketball. Could it be biology again?

    Blacks and Chinese, both with claims of historical tragedy. Yet, trauma doesn’t prevent blacks from dominating NBA. And trauma doesn’t prevent Chinese from building roads and high-speed trains.

    Trauma seems to work in a funny way. Among blacks it messed with their math ability, and among Chinese it messed with the dunking ability. This is a fascinating topic. All human races are all alike and equal in ability, but historical trauma somehow manages to suppress particular talents among certain groups. Holocaust didn’t affect Jewish gift for money-making but apparently messed up their talent for Greco-Roman wrestling and NFL football. How many Jewish running-backs?

    By world standards was the black experience in America so horrifying? Millions died in a single year in other parts of the world as the result of war, famine, and other disasters. Even though blacks got the shorter end of the stick, it seems like they were shielded from the worst horrors of the world as the result of living under white rule in America. All the number of lynched blacks is miniscule compared to those who died in the Ukraine famine. Compared to whites, blacks were oppressed in America, but compared to blacks in Africa, they were rather blessed. Oppressed or blessed, it’s a bit relative.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anonymous

    How long does David French think

    Not very. This is why he fits in with libtards so well.

  170. Anonymous[280] • Disclaimer says:
    @bigdicknick
    David "controlled opposition" French

    Replies: @Anonymous

    His sense of justice seems to apply only to establishment-approved types. He fully endorsed the harsh treatment of Gazans by the IDF.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Anonymous


    His sense of justice seems to apply only to establishment-approved types. He fully endorsed the harsh treatment of Gazans by the IDF.
     
    As if you care about any Palestinians. You phony. Throwing in with inbred retarded Islam. Dumb and 10x dumb.
  171. @Harry Baldwin
    It's my observation that when white parents adopt a child of another race, their political views tend to move toward those that they see as in the interest of their children's race rather than their own. Even if those were the views that motivated them to adopt a child of another race in the first place, they become more pronounced. It's why I'm dubious that we can count on "conservative" Justice Amy Coney Barrett for much.

    David French is an extreme example of this. As a virulent anti-Trumper, his having adopted a black daughter was used by trolls to attack him. As indicated in his NYT piece, he now endorses Critical Race Theory; it's not that he thinks it needs to be openly debated, he flat out endorses it.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @3g4me, @Nicholas Stix, @Paperback Writer, @Art Deco

    Richard Hanania: “…anti-communism was routinely used as a pretext to attack the Civil Rights Movement, and to bolster apartheid in South Africa. History!”

    But the so-called civil rights movement was the greatest communist front ever, and White-run apartheid in South Africa was a utopia, compared to the genocidal black supremacism which succeeded it. History, indeed.

    As for the French, cheese-eating, surrender monkey, long after the Trayvon Martin Hoax had been exposed, he wrote a long, sophistic apologia on behalf of the racist, would-be murderer Martin, and for the sought-after lynching of White-enough George Zimmerman (GOPers Rich Lowry and David Frum did likewise). Note, too, that although French and his wife have adopted a black child, they’re always careful to live only in the most exclusive, lily-White neighborhoods, where their Ethiopian-born daughter is the only black face living there (with the possible exception of black live-ins).

    As for the notion that decorated war hero (though he never saw combat) David French is a “conservative,” he is—as per the new york times’ definition.

    Back during the 1990s, when I was a frequent times reader, and the daily would occasionally run my letters to the editor, it would sometimes run a house editorial proclaiming that a “real conservative” was someone who preserved the changes which the Democrat Party had wrought. That is the sort of “conservative” that David French is.

    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2013/03/at-commentary-french-cheese-eating.html

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Nicholas Stix

    At this point, the shoddiness and emptiness of Establishment Conservatives has been thoroughly exposed. They're just regime stooges.

    But then there are interesting cases like Matt Walsh and James Lindsay. I wonder what will happen with them. They're officially anti-racist but they're completely based and sensible.

    And then there are the black intellectuals like John McWhorter and Glenn Loury, who have more guts than most white professors. They engage with Charles Murray.

    Whose book, by the way, is being carried by the NY Public Library. 20 copies.

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Nicholas Stix

    David French is a typical establishment conservative who believed his great, classical liberal principles and Protestant theology would to suffice to keep America free, conservative and Christian. Yea, even the black race would be uplifted by free markets, democratic rule and the common law. And to prove it, French adopted a negro rather than impregnate his wife for a third time.

    French, like any other religious fanatic, has to double down on his classical liberalism rather than admit it only works with white people. Thus, ideological conservatism expands nimbly to embrace Critical Race Theory, Drag Queen Story Hour, and negro mayhem. Gay marriage is actually traditional, freedom of association is fascist--who knew?! Thus we see it is not the African, the Meso-American, the Han or the Arab who is transformed; rather, they transform.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  172. @Alden
    @PhysicistDave

    All your kids had to do was check the half asian half black box. And write a sob story admissions essay about the horrors of being black in America.

    Happened to my son in law’s half asian nephew. The asian grandparents who paid for private school and extensive tutoring heaped much shame on him and his mother.

    I advised him to go to community college or work for a year and reapply as a black. He did and got into Stanford. The asian grandparents are thrilled. Strange people these Chinese. Seem to think Stanford and Harvard are the only colleges in the country.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    Alden wrote to me:

    All your kids had to do was check the half asian half black box. And write a sob story admissions essay about the horrors of being black in America.

    It did cross my mind. But being a good civ-nat family, we played by the rules (cue in for “And that’s why you civ-nats are idiots!”).

    Alden also wrote:

    Strange people these Chinese. Seem to think Stanford and Harvard are the only colleges in the country.

    Yeah, actually rather myopic. My middle brother was a Stanford grad and a Wash. U. MBA: by most standards, his career was one failure after another. My youngest brother had a BA from Harvard: he is a poor but self-satisfied starving artist.

    I have known grads from Sacramento State and Cal Poly who, by any reasoanble standard, had much better careers.

    Which is actually good news.

    To be sure, the Sac State and Cal Poly grads I am thinking of were, respectively, a structural engineer and an architect: they actually did work. If your goal is to join the parasitic verbalist overclass, maybe the Ivy-plus schools make sense.

    • Agree: Bill
    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @PhysicistDave


    If your goal is to join the parasitic verbalist overclass, maybe the Ivy-plus schools make sense.

     

    That's pretty much the only reason for an Ivy education, but it's not a small reason. Being a bullshitter is so much easier than actually... doing stuff. The potential rewards are huge.
  173. @Harry Baldwin
    It's my observation that when white parents adopt a child of another race, their political views tend to move toward those that they see as in the interest of their children's race rather than their own. Even if those were the views that motivated them to adopt a child of another race in the first place, they become more pronounced. It's why I'm dubious that we can count on "conservative" Justice Amy Coney Barrett for much.

    David French is an extreme example of this. As a virulent anti-Trumper, his having adopted a black daughter was used by trolls to attack him. As indicated in his NYT piece, he now endorses Critical Race Theory; it's not that he thinks it needs to be openly debated, he flat out endorses it.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @3g4me, @Nicholas Stix, @Paperback Writer, @Art Deco

    It’s my observation that when white parents adopt a child of another race, their political views tend to move toward those that they see as in the interest of their children’s race rather than their own.

    Only when they adopt black kids. I knew several cases of working class white parents who adopted Koreans (this was a while ago; don’t ask me to divulge my age) and this didn’t happen. This was back in the days of color-blindism and blank slatism. In the cases I was acquainted with, the adoptions were not without sadness but they mostly worked out. They didn’t end up with the dramatic rejections I’ve read of on the internet.

    Even if those were the views that motivated them to adopt a child of another race in the first place, they become more pronounced. It’s why I’m dubious that we can count on “conservative” Justice Amy Coney Barrett for much.

    True. And ACB has turned out to be the cuck we always suspected.

    David French is an extreme example of this. As a virulent anti-Trumper, his having adopted a black daughter was used by trolls to attack him.

    Well, yeah, but he pimped his daughter. He did a variety of things that were wrong by any standpoint, such as invading his daughter’s privacy, telling her adoption story, and being the most flagrant case of virtue signalling imaginable. That doesn’t excuse vulgar trolling, but he set himself up for it.

    As indicated in his NYT piece, he now endorses Critical Race Theory; it’s not that he thinks it needs to be openly debated, he flat out endorses it.

    True. And the irony is that until recently, his daughter’s ethnic group didn’t even consider themselves black, and ran a slave empire.

    His wife, Nancy, is a real media whore.

    • Thanks: Harry Baldwin
  174. @PhysicistDave
    @Alden

    Alden wrote to me:


    All your kids had to do was check the half asian half black box. And write a sob story admissions essay about the horrors of being black in America.
     
    It did cross my mind. But being a good civ-nat family, we played by the rules (cue in for "And that's why you civ-nats are idiots!").

    Alden also wrote:

    Strange people these Chinese. Seem to think Stanford and Harvard are the only colleges in the country.
     
    Yeah, actually rather myopic. My middle brother was a Stanford grad and a Wash. U. MBA: by most standards, his career was one failure after another. My youngest brother had a BA from Harvard: he is a poor but self-satisfied starving artist.

    I have known grads from Sacramento State and Cal Poly who, by any reasoanble standard, had much better careers.

    Which is actually good news.

    To be sure, the Sac State and Cal Poly grads I am thinking of were, respectively, a structural engineer and an architect: they actually did work. If your goal is to join the parasitic verbalist overclass, maybe the Ivy-plus schools make sense.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    If your goal is to join the parasitic verbalist overclass, maybe the Ivy-plus schools make sense.

    That’s pretty much the only reason for an Ivy education, but it’s not a small reason. Being a bullshitter is so much easier than actually… doing stuff. The potential rewards are huge.

  175. @Nicholas Stix
    @Harry Baldwin

    Richard Hanania: “...anti-communism was routinely used as a pretext to attack the Civil Rights Movement, and to bolster apartheid in South Africa. History!”

    But the so-called civil rights movement was the greatest communist front ever, and White-run apartheid in South Africa was a utopia, compared to the genocidal black supremacism which succeeded it. History, indeed.

    As for the French, cheese-eating, surrender monkey, long after the Trayvon Martin Hoax had been exposed, he wrote a long, sophistic apologia on behalf of the racist, would-be murderer Martin, and for the sought-after lynching of White-enough George Zimmerman (GOPers Rich Lowry and David Frum did likewise). Note, too, that although French and his wife have adopted a black child, they’re always careful to live only in the most exclusive, lily-White neighborhoods, where their Ethiopian-born daughter is the only black face living there (with the possible exception of black live-ins).

    As for the notion that decorated war hero (though he never saw combat) David French is a “conservative,” he is—as per the new york times’ definition.

    Back during the 1990s, when I was a frequent times reader, and the daily would occasionally run my letters to the editor, it would sometimes run a house editorial proclaiming that a “real conservative” was someone who preserved the changes which the Democrat Party had wrought. That is the sort of “conservative” that David French is.

    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2013/03/at-commentary-french-cheese-eating.html

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @The Anti-Gnostic

    At this point, the shoddiness and emptiness of Establishment Conservatives has been thoroughly exposed. They’re just regime stooges.

    But then there are interesting cases like Matt Walsh and James Lindsay. I wonder what will happen with them. They’re officially anti-racist but they’re completely based and sensible.

    And then there are the black intellectuals like John McWhorter and Glenn Loury, who have more guts than most white professors. They engage with Charles Murray.

    Whose book, by the way, is being carried by the NY Public Library. 20 copies.

  176. @Old Prude
    David French: Exhibit 1 in why I ended my National Review subscription in 2016.

    Replies: @G. Poulin

    I ended my subscription many years ago, when the National Review ran a cover story called “The conservative case for gay marriage”. That’s when I knew the gig was up.

    • Replies: @anon
    @G. Poulin

    I ended my subscription many years ago, when the National Review ran a cover story called “The conservative case for gay marriage”.

    An amazingly bad article, with bad faith, special pleading and other sophomoric mistakes. The kind of twaddle that would have been Fisked in any of several places. Written by Jason Lee Steorts, I believe. The same twit who fired some of the best writers in that zine.

    NR was trending cuckservative before Steorts, but afterwards it just slid all the way down the slope to the bottom of BrokeCuck Mountain.

    Now NR is just another kind of vanity press for cucks and gays, not to mention token gay cucks.

  177. @Nicholas Stix
    @Harry Baldwin

    Richard Hanania: “...anti-communism was routinely used as a pretext to attack the Civil Rights Movement, and to bolster apartheid in South Africa. History!”

    But the so-called civil rights movement was the greatest communist front ever, and White-run apartheid in South Africa was a utopia, compared to the genocidal black supremacism which succeeded it. History, indeed.

    As for the French, cheese-eating, surrender monkey, long after the Trayvon Martin Hoax had been exposed, he wrote a long, sophistic apologia on behalf of the racist, would-be murderer Martin, and for the sought-after lynching of White-enough George Zimmerman (GOPers Rich Lowry and David Frum did likewise). Note, too, that although French and his wife have adopted a black child, they’re always careful to live only in the most exclusive, lily-White neighborhoods, where their Ethiopian-born daughter is the only black face living there (with the possible exception of black live-ins).

    As for the notion that decorated war hero (though he never saw combat) David French is a “conservative,” he is—as per the new york times’ definition.

    Back during the 1990s, when I was a frequent times reader, and the daily would occasionally run my letters to the editor, it would sometimes run a house editorial proclaiming that a “real conservative” was someone who preserved the changes which the Democrat Party had wrought. That is the sort of “conservative” that David French is.

    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2013/03/at-commentary-french-cheese-eating.html

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @The Anti-Gnostic

    David French is a typical establishment conservative who believed his great, classical liberal principles and Protestant theology would to suffice to keep America free, conservative and Christian. Yea, even the black race would be uplifted by free markets, democratic rule and the common law. And to prove it, French adopted a negro rather than impregnate his wife for a third time.

    French, like any other religious fanatic, has to double down on his classical liberalism rather than admit it only works with white people. Thus, ideological conservatism expands nimbly to embrace Critical Race Theory, Drag Queen Story Hour, and negro mayhem. Gay marriage is actually traditional, freedom of association is fascist–who knew?! Thus we see it is not the African, the Meso-American, the Han or the Arab who is transformed; rather, they transform.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    has to double down on his classical liberalism rather than admit it only works with white people.

    The list of non-white countries with functioning constitutional systems is as long as your arm.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Hibernian

  178. @PhysicistDave
    @Peter Sellers

    Peter Sellers asked:


    Would you accept your situation if the roles were reversed?
     
    Well... my kids had test scores higher than the median for kids admitted to Stanford, Hahvahd, etc.

    If they had been Blacks, they would have been shoo-ins.

    But since they were half-Asian, half-Caucasian...

    Yeah, I would switch positions in a heartbeat with African-Americans!

    But, being a well-behaved civic nationalist, I am willing to settle simply for equal justice under the law.

    Perhaps you have heard of that concept?

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Alden, @The Anti-Gnostic

    Civic nationalism is for white people, and only white people.

  179. @Anonymous
    How long does David French think it will take Palestinians to arrive at the level of Jews? Will Nakba trauma last maybe a few centuries? And then, Palestinians will be as rich and privileged as the Jews. After many years of much-deserved affirmative action of course.

    Some things don't make sense. If blacks are held back by past oppression, why are they so good at sports? Shouldn't their despairing emotional state prevent them from exerting themselves in all competitive fields? Could that have to do with biology? Oddly enough, blacks have the highest self-esteem in America.

    And what about the Chinese? Their history has been pretty miserable for several centuries due to all sorts of calamities of internal and external origins.. But once given the opportunity, they seem to be making great strides in engineering and the like, even though they have less opportunities than black Americans, surely the most indulged people on Earth. And yet, the Chinese remain hopeless in sprint and basketball. Could it be biology again?

    Blacks and Chinese, both with claims of historical tragedy. Yet, trauma doesn't prevent blacks from dominating NBA. And trauma doesn't prevent Chinese from building roads and high-speed trains.

    Trauma seems to work in a funny way. Among blacks it messed with their math ability, and among Chinese it messed with the dunking ability. This is a fascinating topic. All human races are all alike and equal in ability, but historical trauma somehow manages to suppress particular talents among certain groups. Holocaust didn't affect Jewish gift for money-making but apparently messed up their talent for Greco-Roman wrestling and NFL football. How many Jewish running-backs?

    By world standards was the black experience in America so horrifying? Millions died in a single year in other parts of the world as the result of war, famine, and other disasters. Even though blacks got the shorter end of the stick, it seems like they were shielded from the worst horrors of the world as the result of living under white rule in America. All the number of lynched blacks is miniscule compared to those who died in the Ukraine famine. Compared to whites, blacks were oppressed in America, but compared to blacks in Africa, they were rather blessed. Oppressed or blessed, it's a bit relative.

    Replies: @anon

    How long does David French think

    Not very. This is why he fits in with libtards so well.

  180. “Shut up, you racist proles!’ is what DF means by “robust debate”.

    I stopped reading him at NR long before I stopped reading NR completely. He’s the epitome of a midwit.

  181. @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Peter Sellers

    Das rite. Luv the children. Fill up the planes with a bunch of airport miscreants. Luv ya brother and put him in the pilot's seat. Luv ya sista and hand her the microphone in the airport control tower on a busy foggy night.

    And pray for the people living in the projects two miles from the end of the runway.

    Replies: @Clyde

    Das rite. Luv the children. Fill up the planes with a bunch of airport miscreants. Luv ya brother and put him in the pilot’s seat. Luv ya sista and hand her the microphone in the airport control tower on a busy foggy night.

    And pray for the people living in the projects two miles from the end of the runway.

    !!! You gave me the most laughs today. — Can you believe that way back in 1980. Sting said that we were in world destructor mode? Though still hasn’t happened. Though Chicago projects towers were razed.
    “When The World Is Running Down, You Make The Best Of What’s Still Around”

  182. @Anonymous
    @bigdicknick

    His sense of justice seems to apply only to establishment-approved types. He fully endorsed the harsh treatment of Gazans by the IDF.

    Replies: @Clyde

    His sense of justice seems to apply only to establishment-approved types. He fully endorsed the harsh treatment of Gazans by the IDF.

    As if you care about any Palestinians. You phony. Throwing in with inbred retarded Islam. Dumb and 10x dumb.

  183. @Desiderius
    @Art Deco

    I'm sure our "advisors" have nothing to do with that at all.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke, @Art Deco

    I’m sure our “advisors” have nothing to do with that at all.

    If advisors alone could keep a government standing against an attacking force, there would still be two Vietnams.

  184. anon[259] • Disclaimer says:
    @G. Poulin
    @Old Prude

    I ended my subscription many years ago, when the National Review ran a cover story called "The conservative case for gay marriage". That's when I knew the gig was up.

    Replies: @anon

    I ended my subscription many years ago, when the National Review ran a cover story called “The conservative case for gay marriage”.

    An amazingly bad article, with bad faith, special pleading and other sophomoric mistakes. The kind of twaddle that would have been Fisked in any of several places. Written by Jason Lee Steorts, I believe. The same twit who fired some of the best writers in that zine.

    NR was trending cuckservative before Steorts, but afterwards it just slid all the way down the slope to the bottom of BrokeCuck Mountain.

    Now NR is just another kind of vanity press for cucks and gays, not to mention token gay cucks.

  185. @JEG
    @Peter Sellers

    The current situation, in which whites, especially white men, are blamed for everything, cannot continue. The pendulum has gone too far in an anti-white direction. If the pendulum doesn't come back more in the middle, the white backlash is going to grow and grow.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Alden, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    Straight White men are just 25% of the US population. The average age for whites males is 42 and there are more Whites over the age of 65 than under the age of 30.

    The current racial reckoning began due to the dwindling number of whites in America. Whites are now a minority at our Universities and a minority of Americans under the age of 20. Over the last decade white deaths have exceeded white births , thus the 2020 census is the first to show an actual decline in the number of White people in America.

    Whites need to plan for a future which discriminates against whites and targets whites for extermination. As the white population continues to decline there will be fewer and fewer safe havens to protect your children and property. Maine looks to be a potential refuge for whites over the coming decades. The cold weather repels non-whites and the population is still 96% white in Maine.

    • Agree: The Anti-Gnostic
    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    The future has already been born.

  186. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Nicholas Stix

    David French is a typical establishment conservative who believed his great, classical liberal principles and Protestant theology would to suffice to keep America free, conservative and Christian. Yea, even the black race would be uplifted by free markets, democratic rule and the common law. And to prove it, French adopted a negro rather than impregnate his wife for a third time.

    French, like any other religious fanatic, has to double down on his classical liberalism rather than admit it only works with white people. Thus, ideological conservatism expands nimbly to embrace Critical Race Theory, Drag Queen Story Hour, and negro mayhem. Gay marriage is actually traditional, freedom of association is fascist--who knew?! Thus we see it is not the African, the Meso-American, the Han or the Arab who is transformed; rather, they transform.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    has to double down on his classical liberalism rather than admit it only works with white people.

    The list of non-white countries with functioning constitutional systems is as long as your arm.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Art Deco

    Yes. For example Saudi Arabia, that great bastion of classical liberalism, has a functioning constitutional system.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @Hibernian
    @Art Deco

    Like Mexico? Recently they've been converging with us -they began to have actual opposition parties, of sorts, and we've had Bush vs. Gore and the last two Presidential elections. Venezuela was once a model of constitutional government in Latin America. Look at them now.

    Replies: @anon, @Art Deco

  187. @Harry Baldwin
    It's my observation that when white parents adopt a child of another race, their political views tend to move toward those that they see as in the interest of their children's race rather than their own. Even if those were the views that motivated them to adopt a child of another race in the first place, they become more pronounced. It's why I'm dubious that we can count on "conservative" Justice Amy Coney Barrett for much.

    David French is an extreme example of this. As a virulent anti-Trumper, his having adopted a black daughter was used by trolls to attack him. As indicated in his NYT piece, he now endorses Critical Race Theory; it's not that he thinks it needs to be openly debated, he flat out endorses it.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @3g4me, @Nicholas Stix, @Paperback Writer, @Art Deco

    Don’t think so. He adopted his daughter in 2010. It was 5 or 6 years before he adopted the role of self-appointed hall monitor in the evangelical population. There is a 10th planet there, but I don’t think the adoption is it.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Art Deco

    2013:
    https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/401067008390750208

    2018:
    https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1046097326341869568

    https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/1034140765088374784
    https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/1034143017152733184
    https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/1034144608484315137
    https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/1034145553486106624
    https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/1034146757637287937

    , @MEH 0910
    @Art Deco

    Short video clip:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/david-french-consequences-of-345-years-of-legally-enforced-racism-can-t-be-undone-rapidly-84625989821


    David French, Senior Editor for The Dispatch, tells the story of how his adopted daughter changed his perspective on race.
    June 7, 2020
     

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @MEH 0910
    @Art Deco

    2020:
    https://twitter.com/thedispatch/status/1269622798684692481


    We each like to think we’re not unduly influenced by our immediate environment and culture. That’s a phenomenon that affects other people, we believe. I’m the kind of person who has carefully considered both sides and has arrived at my positions through the force of reason and logic. Sure, I’ve got biases, but that only matters at the edges. The core of my beliefs are rooted in reason, conviction, and faith.

    Maybe that describes you, but I now realize it didn’t describe me. I freely confess that to some extent where I stood on American racial issues was dictated by where I sat my entire life. I always deplored racism—those values were instilled in me from birth—but I was also someone who recoiled at words like “systemic racism.” I looked at the strides we’d made since slavery and Jim Crow and said, “Look how far we’ve come.” I was less apt to say, “and look how much farther we have to go.”

    Then, where I sit changed, dramatically. I just didn’t know it at the time. I went from being the father of two white, blonde-haired, blue-eyed kids to the father of three kids—one of them a beautiful little girl from Ethiopia. When Naomi arrived, our experiences changed. Strange incidents started to happen.

    There was the white woman who demanded that Naomi—the only black girl in our neighborhood pool—point out her parents, in spite of the fact that she was clearly wearing the colored bracelet showing she was permitted to swim.

    There was the time a police officer approached her at a department store and questioned her about who she was with and what she was shopping for. That never happened to my oldest daughter.

    There was the classmate who told Naomi that she couldn’t come to our house for a play date because, “My dad says it’s dangerous to go black people’s neighborhoods.”

    I could go on, and—sure—some of the incidents could have a benign explanation, but as they multiplied, and it was clear that Naomi’s experience was clearly different from her siblings, it became increasingly implausible that all the explanations were benign.
     

    [...]
    So now I sit in a different place. But where do I stand? I believe the following things to be true:

    Slavery was legal and defended morally and (ultimately) militarily from 1619 to 1865.

    After slavery, racial discrimination was lawful and defended morally (and often violently) from 1865 to 1964.

    The Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not end illegal discrimination or racism, it mainly gave black Americans the legal tools to fight back against legal injustices.

    It is unreasonable to believe that social structures and cultural attitudes that were constructed over a period of 345 years will disappear in 56.

    Moreover, the consequences of 345 years of legal and cultural discrimination, are going to be dire, deep-seated, complex, and extraordinarily difficult to comprehensively ameliorate.
     

     

    Replies: @Art Deco

  188. @Desiderius
    @Art Deco

    I'm sure our "advisors" have nothing to do with that at all.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke, @Art Deco

    There are 5,000 American troops in Iraq. Might be enough to secure Mosul if they were deployed that way.

  189. @Art Deco
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    has to double down on his classical liberalism rather than admit it only works with white people.

    The list of non-white countries with functioning constitutional systems is as long as your arm.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Hibernian

    Yes. For example Saudi Arabia, that great bastion of classical liberalism, has a functioning constitutional system.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    It does not. It does have a bureaucracy and a body of law. (It's also populated by white people, btw). Why are you playing these stupid games?

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

  190. @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @JEG

    Straight White men are just 25% of the US population. The average age for whites males is 42 and there are more Whites over the age of 65 than under the age of 30.

    The current racial reckoning began due to the dwindling number of whites in America. Whites are now a minority at our Universities and a minority of Americans under the age of 20. Over the last decade white deaths have exceeded white births , thus the 2020 census is the first to show an actual decline in the number of White people in America.

    Whites need to plan for a future which discriminates against whites and targets whites for extermination. As the white population continues to decline there will be fewer and fewer safe havens to protect your children and property. Maine looks to be a potential refuge for whites over the coming decades. The cold weather repels non-whites and the population is still 96% white in Maine.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    The future has already been born.

  191. @Art Deco
    @Harry Baldwin

    Don't think so. He adopted his daughter in 2010. It was 5 or 6 years before he adopted the role of self-appointed hall monitor in the evangelical population. There is a 10th planet there, but I don't think the adoption is it.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

    2013:

    2018:


    [MORE]

  192. @vhrm
    I don't like CRT, don't know who French is or why he's important enough to merit hate here (even after trying to read his wikipedia page) and I also dislike the examples used in the op-ed.

    That said, while i may think "OMG CRT is so wrong and corrosive it should be illegal", and i very much think that group differences are explained by HBD differences between groups rather than "systemic racism", I don't ACTUALLY think these kinds of laws about what can and can't be taught should be passed. Free speech and all that.

    Also, as a practical matter, by now everyone here should at least suspect that for the foreseeable future these things would be selectively enforced against the majority / plurality just like the rest of the anti-discriminations laws.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @gent, @Dmon, @Jefferson Temple, @Anonymous Jew, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Anonymous, @Bill Jones, @Getaclue, @Hibernian

    Free speech and all that.

    Compelled taxpayer support (redundancy for emphasis) of AFT and NEA teacher speech. FIFY

  193. @anon
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)


    French’s purpose is to obscure the argument and confound the right with red herring objections which he claims are appeals to “conservative principles” but which are designed to preemptively doom the right to failure.
     
    Perhaps that may be reasonably as being the effect of French's arguments but how could you know such to be his purpose?

    BTW, I've always wondered about the additional, seemingly gratuitous information that you volunteer with the parenthetical statements that you add to your various posting handles. Forgive me, but is there some particular reason why the reader should be expected to find of interest the seemingly irrelevant detail of whether you were "working at home" or "hard at work", etc., while posting any given comment?

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Says the 221st courageous anonymous poster.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Hibernian

    Says the 221st courageous anonymous poster.

    An anon conspicuously lacking in a sense of humor. C'est dommage.

  194. @Art Deco
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    has to double down on his classical liberalism rather than admit it only works with white people.

    The list of non-white countries with functioning constitutional systems is as long as your arm.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Hibernian

    Like Mexico? Recently they’ve been converging with us -they began to have actual opposition parties, of sorts, and we’ve had Bush vs. Gore and the last two Presidential elections. Venezuela was once a model of constitutional government in Latin America. Look at them now.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Hibernian

    Like Mexico?

    Well, since you mentioned it...

    https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/AMLO-Offers-Political-Asylum-to-Julian-Assange-in-Mexico-20210104-0013.html

    , @Art Deco
    @Hibernian

    Venezuela was once a model of constitutional government in Latin America.

    For 30-odd years. Economic mismanagement over that time was quite severe. Venezuela's the echt example of the geographer's 'resource curse' thesis. I don't think there's a ready analogue anywhere else in Latin America.

  195. @Hibernian
    @anon

    Says the 221st courageous anonymous poster.

    Replies: @anon

    Says the 221st courageous anonymous poster.

    An anon conspicuously lacking in a sense of humor. C’est dommage.

  196. @Hibernian
    @Art Deco

    Like Mexico? Recently they've been converging with us -they began to have actual opposition parties, of sorts, and we've had Bush vs. Gore and the last two Presidential elections. Venezuela was once a model of constitutional government in Latin America. Look at them now.

    Replies: @anon, @Art Deco

  197. @J1234
    The authors said:

    There will always be disagreement about any nation’s history. The United States is no exception. If history is to judge the United States as exceptional, it is because we welcome such contestation in our public spaces as part of our unfolding national ethos.
     
    "Contestation" is not what is happening in public schools with regards to the teaching of history. It's the opposite of that, and you know it. The supposed "contestation" is unilateral, biased towards prevailing dominant theories or interpretations, and against older less prevalent (among those currently in power) interpretations...meaning that there is no contestation at all. You say "there will always be disagreement about history" while becoming part of a movement to remove any meaningful disagreement about history...and you think nobody will notice.

    Very implicit in the idea of "our public spaces" is that one can remove one's self from such a space whenever they want to, but how do children in school do that? They don't. They can't. Children have no recourse against the powers that be in a school setting.

    David French and his ilk are a fraud. The propagandist NYT has offered him something (implicitly or explicitly) in return for his complicity.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

    David French and his ilk are a fraud. The propagandist NYT has offered him something (implicitly or explicitly) in return for his complicity.

    Or maybe this is a man whose beliefs are endlessly flexible, shaped primarily by the highest bidder, a wordslinger for hire rather than an ideologue of any persuasion.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Johann Ricke

    No. He's the perfect ideologue. When classical liberalism breaks on the shoals of human biodiversity, he goes down with the ship rather than admit his ideology no longer explains reality. Thus we learn that in fact, CRT has always been part and parcel of classical liberalism.

  198. @Johann Ricke
    @J1234


    David French and his ilk are a fraud. The propagandist NYT has offered him something (implicitly or explicitly) in return for his complicity.
     
    Or maybe this is a man whose beliefs are endlessly flexible, shaped primarily by the highest bidder, a wordslinger for hire rather than an ideologue of any persuasion.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    No. He’s the perfect ideologue. When classical liberalism breaks on the shoals of human biodiversity, he goes down with the ship rather than admit his ideology no longer explains reality. Thus we learn that in fact, CRT has always been part and parcel of classical liberalism.

  199. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Art Deco

    Yes. For example Saudi Arabia, that great bastion of classical liberalism, has a functioning constitutional system.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    It does not. It does have a bureaucracy and a body of law. (It’s also populated by white people, btw). Why are you playing these stupid games?

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Art Deco

    Yes it does, doofus.

    https://www.servat.unibe.ch/icl/sa00000_.html

    So does Liberia.

    https://www.servat.unibe.ch/icl/li00000_.html

    Behold,classical liberalism flourishing!

    Replies: @Dissident, @Art Deco

  200. @Hibernian
    @Art Deco

    Like Mexico? Recently they've been converging with us -they began to have actual opposition parties, of sorts, and we've had Bush vs. Gore and the last two Presidential elections. Venezuela was once a model of constitutional government in Latin America. Look at them now.

    Replies: @anon, @Art Deco

    Venezuela was once a model of constitutional government in Latin America.

    For 30-odd years. Economic mismanagement over that time was quite severe. Venezuela’s the echt example of the geographer’s ‘resource curse’ thesis. I don’t think there’s a ready analogue anywhere else in Latin America.

  201. @Art Deco
    @Harry Baldwin

    Don't think so. He adopted his daughter in 2010. It was 5 or 6 years before he adopted the role of self-appointed hall monitor in the evangelical population. There is a 10th planet there, but I don't think the adoption is it.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

    Short video clip:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/david-french-consequences-of-345-years-of-legally-enforced-racism-can-t-be-undone-rapidly-84625989821

    David French, Senior Editor for The Dispatch, tells the story of how his adopted daughter changed his perspective on race.
    June 7, 2020

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @MEH 0910

    I'll stand corrected, then.

  202. @Art Deco
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    It does not. It does have a bureaucracy and a body of law. (It's also populated by white people, btw). Why are you playing these stupid games?

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    Yes it does, doofus.

    https://www.servat.unibe.ch/icl/sa00000_.html

    So does Liberia.

    https://www.servat.unibe.ch/icl/li00000_.html

    Behold,classical liberalism flourishing!

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    Yes it does, doofus.
     
    Brilliant!

    I'm still not fully decided between you and Art Deco on this one. But AD is going to need a pretty strong rejoinder to counter the incisive cogency of your calling him a "doofus".

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    , @Art Deco
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Yes it does, doofus.

    No it does not. No amount of semantic gamesmanship from you alters that. Look forward to your treatise on how parliamentary government in Japan and Barbados are elaborate ruses.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

  203. @Art Deco
    @Harry Baldwin

    Don't think so. He adopted his daughter in 2010. It was 5 or 6 years before he adopted the role of self-appointed hall monitor in the evangelical population. There is a 10th planet there, but I don't think the adoption is it.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

    2020:

    We each like to think we’re not unduly influenced by our immediate environment and culture. That’s a phenomenon that affects other people, we believe. I’m the kind of person who has carefully considered both sides and has arrived at my positions through the force of reason and logic. Sure, I’ve got biases, but that only matters at the edges. The core of my beliefs are rooted in reason, conviction, and faith.

    Maybe that describes you, but I now realize it didn’t describe me. I freely confess that to some extent where I stood on American racial issues was dictated by where I sat my entire life. I always deplored racism—those values were instilled in me from birth—but I was also someone who recoiled at words like “systemic racism.” I looked at the strides we’d made since slavery and Jim Crow and said, “Look how far we’ve come.” I was less apt to say, “and look how much farther we have to go.”

    Then, where I sit changed, dramatically. I just didn’t know it at the time. I went from being the father of two white, blonde-haired, blue-eyed kids to the father of three kids—one of them a beautiful little girl from Ethiopia. When Naomi arrived, our experiences changed. Strange incidents started to happen.

    There was the white woman who demanded that Naomi—the only black girl in our neighborhood pool—point out her parents, in spite of the fact that she was clearly wearing the colored bracelet showing she was permitted to swim.

    There was the time a police officer approached her at a department store and questioned her about who she was with and what she was shopping for. That never happened to my oldest daughter.

    There was the classmate who told Naomi that she couldn’t come to our house for a play date because, “My dad says it’s dangerous to go black people’s neighborhoods.”

    I could go on, and—sure—some of the incidents could have a benign explanation, but as they multiplied, and it was clear that Naomi’s experience was clearly different from her siblings, it became increasingly implausible that all the explanations were benign.

    [MORE]

    […]
    So now I sit in a different place. But where do I stand? I believe the following things to be true:

    Slavery was legal and defended morally and (ultimately) militarily from 1619 to 1865.

    After slavery, racial discrimination was lawful and defended morally (and often violently) from 1865 to 1964.

    The Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not end illegal discrimination or racism, it mainly gave black Americans the legal tools to fight back against legal injustices.

    It is unreasonable to believe that social structures and cultural attitudes that were constructed over a period of 345 years will disappear in 56.

    Moreover, the consequences of 345 years of legal and cultural discrimination, are going to be dire, deep-seated, complex, and extraordinarily difficult to comprehensively ameliorate.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @MEH 0910

    "I could go on,"

    I suppose it's jejune to point out that

    1. Those are almost certainly the three worst examples he could think of over a period of ten years and they're pretty meh, not even rising to the level of Ta-Nehisi Coates' rude woman on the escalator. Had the first two incidents happened to my sisters, my mother would have forgotten about it in two days. The 3d incident she'd have filed away and gotten some chit-chat with her gal pals out of it.

    2. A large slice of the young trying to navigate their young life have the subjective experience of anguish from being an outcast of one sort or another. The feeling is many orders of magnitude worse than anything he described, and in the lives of some kids it can run on for years. They're not distinguished by race, but by a certain vulnerability.

    3. Parents doing their jobs try to impart perspective and resilience to their children, and he thinks like a man doing the opposite.


    And all his thinking about race matters is regulated by his understanding of what 'the rules' were giving no consideration of all the ways blacks have made a living in this country over the last 150 years, how they responded in their decision-making to different sorts of stimuli, and how their trajectory compared with immigrant segments over time. It's almost as if in his mind the world is an elementary school classroom.

  204. @MEH 0910
    @Art Deco

    Short video clip:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/david-french-consequences-of-345-years-of-legally-enforced-racism-can-t-be-undone-rapidly-84625989821


    David French, Senior Editor for The Dispatch, tells the story of how his adopted daughter changed his perspective on race.
    June 7, 2020
     

    Replies: @Art Deco

    I’ll stand corrected, then.

  205. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Art Deco

    Yes it does, doofus.

    https://www.servat.unibe.ch/icl/sa00000_.html

    So does Liberia.

    https://www.servat.unibe.ch/icl/li00000_.html

    Behold,classical liberalism flourishing!

    Replies: @Dissident, @Art Deco

    Yes it does, doofus.

    Brilliant!

    I’m still not fully decided between you and Art Deco on this one. But AD is going to need a pretty strong rejoinder to counter the incisive cogency of your calling him a “doofus”.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Dissident

    In response to a comment that classical liberalism only works with white people, he said the list of non-white countries with constitutional systems is as long as my arm. I pointed out that non-white Saudi Arabia and non-white Liberia both have constitutions. Again, this is an example of the ideologue who cannot imagine his ideals are not universal. If we all just write down everything in a constitution and send everyone to Catholic school, every non-white will turn out like Clarence Thomas. That's Art's whole schtick.

    The age of ideology is over because scarcity is over. All that remains is how to distribute the surplus of industrial society.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Corvinus

  206. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1412567704012091392

    Replies: @Hi There, @ScarletNumber, @Rosie, @MEH 0910

    If you’re a conservative, you may well be aware of the research cataloged by Heather Mac Donald rebutting claims of systemic racial bias in fatal police shootings. You may be less aware of the recent New York Times report indicating that African Americans make up 19 percent of the population of Minneapolis, 9 percent of the police force and an incredible 58 percent of subjects of police use of force.

  207. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Art Deco

    Yes it does, doofus.

    https://www.servat.unibe.ch/icl/sa00000_.html

    So does Liberia.

    https://www.servat.unibe.ch/icl/li00000_.html

    Behold,classical liberalism flourishing!

    Replies: @Dissident, @Art Deco

    Yes it does, doofus.

    No it does not. No amount of semantic gamesmanship from you alters that. Look forward to your treatise on how parliamentary government in Japan and Barbados are elaborate ruses.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Art Deco

    Do you think having a parliament means you're practicing classical liberalism?

    Replies: @Art Deco

  208. @MEH 0910
    @Art Deco

    2020:
    https://twitter.com/thedispatch/status/1269622798684692481


    We each like to think we’re not unduly influenced by our immediate environment and culture. That’s a phenomenon that affects other people, we believe. I’m the kind of person who has carefully considered both sides and has arrived at my positions through the force of reason and logic. Sure, I’ve got biases, but that only matters at the edges. The core of my beliefs are rooted in reason, conviction, and faith.

    Maybe that describes you, but I now realize it didn’t describe me. I freely confess that to some extent where I stood on American racial issues was dictated by where I sat my entire life. I always deplored racism—those values were instilled in me from birth—but I was also someone who recoiled at words like “systemic racism.” I looked at the strides we’d made since slavery and Jim Crow and said, “Look how far we’ve come.” I was less apt to say, “and look how much farther we have to go.”

    Then, where I sit changed, dramatically. I just didn’t know it at the time. I went from being the father of two white, blonde-haired, blue-eyed kids to the father of three kids—one of them a beautiful little girl from Ethiopia. When Naomi arrived, our experiences changed. Strange incidents started to happen.

    There was the white woman who demanded that Naomi—the only black girl in our neighborhood pool—point out her parents, in spite of the fact that she was clearly wearing the colored bracelet showing she was permitted to swim.

    There was the time a police officer approached her at a department store and questioned her about who she was with and what she was shopping for. That never happened to my oldest daughter.

    There was the classmate who told Naomi that she couldn’t come to our house for a play date because, “My dad says it’s dangerous to go black people’s neighborhoods.”

    I could go on, and—sure—some of the incidents could have a benign explanation, but as they multiplied, and it was clear that Naomi’s experience was clearly different from her siblings, it became increasingly implausible that all the explanations were benign.
     

    [...]
    So now I sit in a different place. But where do I stand? I believe the following things to be true:

    Slavery was legal and defended morally and (ultimately) militarily from 1619 to 1865.

    After slavery, racial discrimination was lawful and defended morally (and often violently) from 1865 to 1964.

    The Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not end illegal discrimination or racism, it mainly gave black Americans the legal tools to fight back against legal injustices.

    It is unreasonable to believe that social structures and cultural attitudes that were constructed over a period of 345 years will disappear in 56.

    Moreover, the consequences of 345 years of legal and cultural discrimination, are going to be dire, deep-seated, complex, and extraordinarily difficult to comprehensively ameliorate.
     

     

    Replies: @Art Deco

    “I could go on,”

    I suppose it’s jejune to point out that

    1. Those are almost certainly the three worst examples he could think of over a period of ten years and they’re pretty meh, not even rising to the level of Ta-Nehisi Coates’ rude woman on the escalator. Had the first two incidents happened to my sisters, my mother would have forgotten about it in two days. The 3d incident she’d have filed away and gotten some chit-chat with her gal pals out of it.

    2. A large slice of the young trying to navigate their young life have the subjective experience of anguish from being an outcast of one sort or another. The feeling is many orders of magnitude worse than anything he described, and in the lives of some kids it can run on for years. They’re not distinguished by race, but by a certain vulnerability.

    3. Parents doing their jobs try to impart perspective and resilience to their children, and he thinks like a man doing the opposite.

    And all his thinking about race matters is regulated by his understanding of what ‘the rules’ were giving no consideration of all the ways blacks have made a living in this country over the last 150 years, how they responded in their decision-making to different sorts of stimuli, and how their trajectory compared with immigrant segments over time. It’s almost as if in his mind the world is an elementary school classroom.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  209. @Art Deco
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Yes it does, doofus.

    No it does not. No amount of semantic gamesmanship from you alters that. Look forward to your treatise on how parliamentary government in Japan and Barbados are elaborate ruses.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    Do you think having a parliament means you’re practicing classical liberalism?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Do you think refusing to define terms fools anyone?

    If you fancy it means Calvin Coolidge's America, that doesn't exist anywhere. If you're willing to concede it means an approximation of public life as it was understood in occidental countries ca. 1976, that's all over the place.

  210. @Dissident
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    Yes it does, doofus.
     
    Brilliant!

    I'm still not fully decided between you and Art Deco on this one. But AD is going to need a pretty strong rejoinder to counter the incisive cogency of your calling him a "doofus".

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    In response to a comment that classical liberalism only works with white people, he said the list of non-white countries with constitutional systems is as long as my arm. I pointed out that non-white Saudi Arabia and non-white Liberia both have constitutions. Again, this is an example of the ideologue who cannot imagine his ideals are not universal. If we all just write down everything in a constitution and send everyone to Catholic school, every non-white will turn out like Clarence Thomas. That’s Art’s whole schtick.

    The age of ideology is over because scarcity is over. All that remains is how to distribute the surplus of industrial society.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Saudi Arabia is not non-white, except in your imagination.

    , @Corvinus
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    My friend, the age of ideology is as strong as ever, as evident by "pro-white" versus "anti-white", "Alt Right" vs. "radical left", and Democrat/liberal vs. Republican/conservative.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

  211. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Dissident

    In response to a comment that classical liberalism only works with white people, he said the list of non-white countries with constitutional systems is as long as my arm. I pointed out that non-white Saudi Arabia and non-white Liberia both have constitutions. Again, this is an example of the ideologue who cannot imagine his ideals are not universal. If we all just write down everything in a constitution and send everyone to Catholic school, every non-white will turn out like Clarence Thomas. That's Art's whole schtick.

    The age of ideology is over because scarcity is over. All that remains is how to distribute the surplus of industrial society.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Corvinus

    Saudi Arabia is not non-white, except in your imagination.

  212. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Art Deco

    Do you think having a parliament means you're practicing classical liberalism?

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Do you think refusing to define terms fools anyone?

    If you fancy it means Calvin Coolidge’s America, that doesn’t exist anywhere. If you’re willing to concede it means an approximation of public life as it was understood in occidental countries ca. 1976, that’s all over the place.

  213. @Dennis Dale
    I think it was Richard Hanania who tweeted censoring CRT would be acknowledging its power as an idea, as in a mistake.
    That's silly. This isn't Galileo's telescope--or Charles Murray's recent book. And the powerful keep acknowledging the power of of his and others' words, daily with their censorship, and being called out on it; it makes no difference. The "power" of ideas is meaningless. The power of the megaphone is all.
    It's distressing so many still want to half-measure the fight, humoring their premises about "racism" and other hokum.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @sayless, @MEH 0910

  214. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Dissident

    In response to a comment that classical liberalism only works with white people, he said the list of non-white countries with constitutional systems is as long as my arm. I pointed out that non-white Saudi Arabia and non-white Liberia both have constitutions. Again, this is an example of the ideologue who cannot imagine his ideals are not universal. If we all just write down everything in a constitution and send everyone to Catholic school, every non-white will turn out like Clarence Thomas. That's Art's whole schtick.

    The age of ideology is over because scarcity is over. All that remains is how to distribute the surplus of industrial society.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Corvinus

    My friend, the age of ideology is as strong as ever, as evident by “pro-white” versus “anti-white”, “Alt Right” vs. “radical left”, and Democrat/liberal vs. Republican/conservative.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Corvinus

    "The age of ideology is as strong as ever!"

    https://i2.wp.com/www.thezimbabwemail.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Riots-in-South-Africa-1.jpeg?resize=678%2C381&ssl=1

    Replies: @Corvinus

  215. @Corvinus
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    My friend, the age of ideology is as strong as ever, as evident by "pro-white" versus "anti-white", "Alt Right" vs. "radical left", and Democrat/liberal vs. Republican/conservative.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Thanks for solidifying my point. The riots are rooted in the ideology of the protestors who are upset that a former leader they had supported was arrested, as well as anger and frustration over job layoffs.

  216. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Corvinus

    "The age of ideology is as strong as ever!"

    https://i2.wp.com/www.thezimbabwemail.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Riots-in-South-Africa-1.jpeg?resize=678%2C381&ssl=1

    Replies: @Corvinus

    Thanks for solidifying my point. The riots are rooted in the ideology of the protestors who are upset that a former leader they had supported was arrested, as well as anger and frustration over job layoffs.

  217. h/t: https://www.unz.com/ghood/verified-hate-glorifying-death/


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