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Are American losing the ability to notice analogies? This fear and loathing of analogies isn’t just growing among the low-brow: recall how the SAT dropped its analogy questions due to a petulant demand by the U. of California chancellor.

To me, the late Daunte Wright and the late Ashli Babbitt can be compared fairly directly. Both were lawbreakers (resisting arrest vs. breaking and entering) who got shot dead by cops who made dubious-looking but perhaps justifiable decisions. Wright happened to be unarmed with a gun at the moment, but there were two warrants out for his arrest for separate gun crimes he had committed, while there was no reason to think Babbitt was armed.

But The Establishment is throwing a fit over Wright while thinking that Babbitt had it coming. It’s as simple to them as black vs. white. Also, Babbitt was for Trump while Wright probably was not. So what more do you need to know?

From the Washington Post news section:

U.S. Capitol Police officer cleared of wrongdoing in fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt during Capitol attack

By Keith L. Alexander, Justin Jouvenal and Spencer S. Hsu
April 14, 2021 at 5:31 p.m. PDT

A U.S. Capitol Police officer has been cleared of criminal wrongdoing for fatally shooting Air Force veteran Ashli Babbitt as she attempted to breach a set of doors deep in the Capitol during the January siege, federal prosecutors in D.C. announced Wednesday.

Authorities determined that there was insufficient evidence to prove Babbitt’s civil rights were violated, and that it was reasonable for the officer to believe he was firing in self-defense or in defense of members of Congress and aides who were fleeing the House chamber. Prosecutors did not identify the officer. …

Mark E. Schamel, the Capitol Police officer’s attorney, credited his client with showing great restraint.

“His bravery on January 6 was nothing short of heroic,” Schamel said in a statement. “He stopped the rioters from gaining entry into the Speaker’s Lobby and saved the lives of countless members of Congress and the rioters. His heroism should be no surprise to those who know him.”

More likely, he panicked, as cops (not to mention the rest of us) often do when the adrenaline surges. After all, nobody else shot anybody on January 6, so the unidentified cop’s behavior was anomalous.

Presumably, The Establishment’s view is that more killings should have been committed.

The officer opened fire as Babbitt, who was wearing a Trump flag like a cape,

Which would have justified using a flame-thrower on her.

attempted to crawl through one of the broken panes of the Speaker’s Lobby doors, video shows. Babbitt, who was hit in the shoulder, tumbled backward onto the floor.

The attorney for the officer, a lieutenant, said in a statement that the officer clearly identified himself and ordered rioters not to pass a barricade at the doors of the Speaker’s Lobby before firing. …

A group that included officers, rioters and a Hill staffer rushed to her aid, video shows. Two law enforcement officials familiar with the investigation have said that Babbitt was unarmed.

This is the only time the word “unarmed” is mentioned in a long article.

She later died.

… D.C. police are required by law to identify officers involved in serious uses of force within five business days of an incident. They are also required to release video from body cameras of the officers directly involved. The law only applies to D.C. police. Capitol Police are not equipped with body cameras.

The law firm representing the officer said it was keeping his name confidential because he has faced death threats.

In the law enforcement killing of a young violist in my neighborhood in which I advised the grieving mother to sue (she was awarded $3 million by a judge), the DEA agent’s name didn’t seem to be released until about a year later. That kind of slowness is not unreasonable when tempers might be high. There are a lot angry crazies out there.

In contrast, the police shooter in Brooklyn Center, MN had her name released and was charged with manslaughter while riots are still going on.

Babbitt spent more than a decade in the military, first in the Air Force and then in the Air National Guard, but she had discipline problems and didn’t advance far. Her ex-husband, Timothy McEntee, has said she served in Afghanistan and Iraq.

What a loser. She served her country in two combat theaters … but she didn’t advance far.

After leaving the military in 2016, Babbitt started a pool business with family members that struggled financially, and her Twitter account shows she became more interested in online misinformation and conservative causes.

In one video posted to social media, Babbitt rants loudly about the effects of immigrants on the U.S. economy.

If that’s not misinformation, I don’t know what is. Hasn’t she read David Card’s study of Miami immigrants in 1980-84?

 
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  1. Are American[s] losing the ability to notice analogies?

    Yes, they are. Analogies are useful, logical constructs, which is why they were a part of college entrance exams.

  2. “His bravery on January 6 was nothing short of heroic,” Schamel said in a statement. “He stopped the rioters from gaining entry into the Speaker’s Lobby and saved the lives of countless members of Congress and the rioters. His heroism should be no surprise to those who know him.”

    That’s not just who-whom. That’s completely Orwellian.

    We don’t even have the name of this murderer. He shot an unarmed woman. He wasn’t heroic. He didn’t save ANYONE’s life. He should have been arrested and charged with murder. That statement above is a sick lie!

  3. So why are the Capitol police provided with guns and bullets?

    They could just have the guns and no bullets if they were only supposed to use them as a threat or for ceremonial purposes.

    • Troll: Desiderius
    • Replies: @fnn
    , @Sean
    , @ic1000
    , @Redman
    , @TWS
    , @Alden
  4. AKAHorace says:

    We don’t even have the name of this murderer. He shot an unarmed woman. He wasn’t heroic. He didn’t save ANYONE’s life. He should have been arrested and charged with murder. That statement above is a sick lie!

    He panicked during a confused situation. I don’t think that you can call him a murderer anymore than you can call Babbitt one.

    • Disagree: gandydancer
  5. Seneca44 says:

    Living in a liberal, statist enclave near DC, there are many here who parrot the CNN line, “Can you imagine what would have happened on January 6 if the protesters were black?” My universal reply is that if a white Capitol policeman shot an unarmed black woman coming through that window, we would still be cleaning up the looting debris from every Target and shoe store.

    • Replies: @Sollipsist
  6. @Achmed E. Newman

    He shot an unarmed woman. He wasn’t heroic. He didn’t save ANYONE’s life. He should have been arrested and charged with murder. That statement above is a sick lie!

    I suppose he should have informed her that she was under arrest for unauthorised tourism and asked her to put her hands behind her back to be cuffed, except that would probably make the United States look like North Korea with Otto Warmbier.

    The poor dumbfuck was scared shitless. He had been hired for what he thought was a comfy job pretending to guard the Congress, and he had been given a gun and bullets and probably a bit of practice shooting on a range, and told to go out and protect Congress. Most likely he did not have a degree in political science from an Ivy League university.

    I doubt the congressional “police” have weekly drills on how to deal with rampaging mobs trying to overturn elections, and they were supposed to say “excuse me, ma’am, would you like to step outside and discuss this matter of lawful elections with a qualified tourist guide or Congressional page.”

    But he obviously forgot his training, panicked, pulled his gun, and fired off a shot at this woman who was happily going about her unlawful business.

    His name should be published, and he should actually be made to go back to work with a paper target pinned to his back as a corrective action plan and a toy gun to replace the real one.

    Congress should demand that the Congressional police be disarmed and instructed to never prevent members of the public from addressing grievances with individual members of Congress or Senators or with Congress as a whole.

  7. fnn says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Wow, you must be doing some heavy drinking.

  8. El Dato says:

    “His bravery on January 6 was nothing short of heroic,” Schamel said in a statement. “He stopped the rioters from gaining entry into the Speaker’s Lobby and saved the lives of countless members of Congress and the rioters. His heroism should be no surprise to those who know him.”

    Camp guards controlling inmates at Buchenwald showed greater heroism.

    Also, I don’t know him. Maybe I should be surprised, but there may be a second layer of meaning to this statement.

    Are American losing the ability to notice analogies?

    That is to say, are they becoming more NPC-like?

    While we try to give machines the power of making analogies…

  9. Sean says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    A legal gun carried by a police officer is not an unqualified licensed to kill on their own assessment of the situation, unless it is “objectively” reasonable.

  10. El Dato says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    But he obviously forgot his training, panicked, pulled his gun, and fired off a shot at this woman who was happily going about her unlawful business.

    That’s not what has happened and you know it.

    The AR-15 equipped SWAT guy right behind Babbit was ready to let loose in the general direction of the floating cufflinked black hand after he “fired off a shot”.

    Luckily he was white and had situation awareness, so the story ended there.

  11. The policemen who shot Ashli Babbitt is to law enforcement as AOC is to statesmanship.

  12. Establishment is suicidal, and mostpeople are passive, indifferent- as always.

    Gandhi was right: At the end, deceivers deceive only themselves.

  13. Anonymous[397] • Disclaimer says:

    ” His bravery was nothing short of heroic” !!!!!!!

    Yep – so that’s what passes for ‘heroic’ in modern America, a big, armed, 6ft plus male – in a position of safety – firing point blank at a petite unarmed non threatening woman.
    In the time of chivalry that would have been regarded with the highest degree of contempt and disgust, if not actual cowardice.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  14. dearieme says:

    “His bravery on January 6 was nothing short of heroic,”

    I saw the video: it was a murder, and a murder marked by the cowardice of the cop, as American killings by cop so often are. She was climbing through a broken window. All he needed to do was push her back. Instead, with no threat to life apparent, he shot her dead. Murder, plain and simple.

    As for the Minnesota debacle: what if the silly girl hadn’t confused her gun with her taser? Might she have been justified in shooting the criminal who was evading arrest and potentially reaching for a gun?

    After all, the warrants for his arrest described at least one crime where he waved a gun.

    • Agree: gandydancer
    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
  15. Anonymous[397] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Would any of the old time gunslingers of the wild west, genuine hard cases who lived and died by the gun, would have ever even thought of stooping to such a contemptible act.

    Even the f***king Arabs customarily let all the female hostages walk free.

  16. ic1000 says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    So why are the police provided with guns and bullets?

    And why don’t they have to report the number of donuts eaten, slowly, during each shift?

    Good questions, Jonathan Mason.

  17. @Jonathan Mason

    Jonathan, it was quite obvious to anyone that the crowd at the Capitol on Jan. 6th was not attacking any members of Congress and that it was not an insurrection. They were not armed for one thing. I was at the huge Richmond, Virginia gun rally a year earlier. Now that was an armed group! It was peaceful though. We all know that a group of White people with the intention of harming Congressmen and truly taking over the US Feral Gov’t doesn’t look like the January 6th Capitol Gang.

    If you can’t tell that, you have no common sense and shouldn’t be in law enforcement. What should the guy have done? He could have ushered the remaining Congressmen out of the chambers. He could have even ordered Mrs. Babbitt and the others to stop – they were on the other side of a door with a smashed-out panel.

    This murderer knew damn well that Ashlii Babbitt was no immediate physical threat to anyone else, much less himself. How is it that the 2 lady cops involved in shooting that guy dead up in Minneapolis were named and pictured right away, yet one can’t even find this guy’s name? Here is the police lieutenant in question, as identified here:

  18. Authorities determined that there was insufficient evidence to prove Babbitt’s civil rights were violated,

    Summarily executing an unarmed woman who hasn’t laid a hand on anyone isn’t a violation of her civil rights? Stick a fork in it, the US is done.

    • Agree: Travis, Getaclue, S. Anonyia
    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
  19. After leaving the military in 2016, Babbitt started a pool business with family members that struggled financially, and her Twitter account shows she became more interested in online misinformation and conservative causes.

    Anything, conservative or not, that doesn’t fit into the liberal narrative is considered “misinformation.”

  20. Travis says:

    If a Black cop shot Daunte Wright the national media would have ignored the story and the Black officer would not face manslaughter charges.

    If a white officer killed Ashli Babbitt the white officer would have been investigated and probably lose his job and his identity would have been disseminated by the media.

    If Ashli Babbitt was Black and a white cop killed her, the white policeman would be charged with manslaughter and vilified by the media.

    • Agree: David In TN, Getaclue
  21. Sorry, Steve, talking about hot tempers, I hadn’t read the rest of your writing (and more excerpts) before I wrote in. You noted that Mrs. Babbitt was unarmed. She was 5′ 2″ and 110 lb. From the video, I don’t at all agree that this cop panicked. Ashlii was on the other side of a broken glass door panel. You don’t just sail right through that – you’d either want to clear all the glass out (but yet, they didn’t even have sticks or bats to do that with), or you get through very, very carefully I think this cop just wanted to shoot someone.

    Another thing: “She died later.” WTF is that?! She got shot in the neck/throat and died right there on the floor, did she not? (It’s hard to get info on this, for some strange reason…) Brian Sicknick and a few others “died later”, yes. Ashlii Babbitt was shot and killed, period.

    Anyway, another good post, Steve.

    • Replies: @bartolo1
    , @gandydancer
  22. Dan Smith says:

    My respect for the Capitol police fell even farther when officers manning a traffic barrier stood on the wrong side of it, permitting a home grown Islamic terrorist to run them over. And then they let him exit his car, stab another cop before finally ending the threat. Perhaps they should spend a month with the IDF learning how to deal with terrorists.

  23. Steve, can’t say i’m overwhelmed by this analogy. My own biases and “who/whom” no doubt in play. I don’t even think “panicked cop” is likely correct. He was black and probably thought “f- these Trump loving assholes!” bang! more than actually panicked.

    The straight up analogy to Ashli Babbitt is the numerous, near continual, intrusions and attempted intrusions of BLM/Antifa on public buildings last year. And if a cop had just flat out shot a BLM/Antifa goon … man, we would have heard bloody “murder!” yelled from the rooftops.

    The Brooklyn Center mom/cop in contrast just stepped into a pile while doing the tedious pooper scoopering that cops are supposed to do. Brooklyn Center has apparently–it isn’t between the airport and my family in Iowa so i have no first hand experience–been undergoing “diversity enrichment”. So the mom/cop who probably managed to cruise through her 20+ with only a few bumps and bruises ends up her career with a bang.

    ~

    I will say in a fair world the “exoneration” of Ashli Babbitt’s killer would be the end the Kyle Rittenhouse political prosecution. Rittenhouse wasn’t stopping a protester (“coup plotter” for Mason) but some actual Antifa arsonists who–having misidentified him as the guy who had stopped one of their previous arson attempts–were trying to attack him and do him bodily harm. I.e. straight up self-defense. Rittenhouse is what an actual citizen hero looks like. The savior of Kenosha.

  24. kihowi says:

    I don’t see an analogy. I get it, both resulted in dead people and journalists cheer the one a boo the other. Big deal.

    To me as an outsider, neither of these seem remarkable enough to be news. The lady cop obviously didn’t mean to shoot him, the argument to the contrary is too kooky for words. These things obviously happen and are obviously rare. Sad but wadaya wadaya.

    People trashing the capitol building and trying to get into the chamber obviously should be shot. Can’t have a serious country otherwise.

    Run-of-the-mill. The attention should be on the months of riots that were allowed to happen, on the creation of a caste justice system based color, on the new system of terrorism-by-doxx in which dissidents have their lives ruined by mobs from the internet.

    • Agree: notsaying
    • Disagree: Cloudbuster
  25. Redman says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    How are we sure the killer even was a member of the Capital Police? I certainly don’t take the word of the WaPo seriously anymore.

    I’ve heard the guy was part of Pence’s security detail.

    • Replies: @Alden
  26. @AnotherDad

    Exactly that thug with a badge and goofy suit was just Troof with a 10 less IQ points and a standard deviation more testosterone making 30K more a year.

    Narcissism, 85 IQ, and a gun don’t mix well as black militias have a delightful tendency to demonstrate when they accidentally shoot each other.

    • Agree: AR in Illinois
  27. fnn says:

    This unnamed cop had slightly more excuse for what he did than FBI HRT sniper Lon Horiuchi did for blowing the head off Vicki Weaver while she holding her infant daughter in her arms. Horiuchi’s actions are the Bizarro World gold standard.

    • Replies: @Old Prude
  28. Catdog says:

    What really gets me is that every black criminal who gets his just deserts is a national tragedy, even getting sympathetic words from the white house, but when black criminals murder innocent white children there’s hardly a peep. A few weeks ago reality TV stars beat their adopted white daughter to death. A freaking NFL player murdered an entire white family. Crickets. But some criminal got shot fleeing from police, and there’s a video of a white man yelling at a black man with no context, and there’s a media circus.

    “White privilege”! Blacks are like samurais, allowed to test their swords on any peasant who they think is disrepecting them.

    If I may be honest, I’m starting to get a little, teeney wheeny bit tired of black people.

  29. In the court of wa po she was guilty of reading misinformation and a death sentence and execution was justified. Please do not read this or you will be guilty too.

    • Replies: @Travis
  30. A major politician who rallied around“Justice for Ashley” might not be safe under the protection of the Secret Service. Private security for dissent politicians should be standard operational security from this point forward. It would distinguish controlled opposition from the real opposition.

  31. @AnotherDad

    AnotherDad, I wish I could agree with that last part, that the precedent set by this travesty would at least help Kyle Rittenhouse. I just don’t think our country has enough rule-of-law, vs. who?-whom? for this to matter. If they want to railroad Kyle, who, BTW, did a textbook, superb job of defending himself from certain harm and maybe death, well, they’ll railroad him like they did James Fields in Charlottesville, Virginia.

    Anyway, thanks for the good comment, as usual, which reminds me: on a post about feminism I have coming on my site, can I borrow most or all of this comment of 3 days back from you? (I’ll attribute it, of course, and won’t edit anything inside the portions I want to post, which is every thing from “This is feminism 101” on.)

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    , @gandydancer
  32. @Achmed E. Newman

    You write the truth Mr. Newman. The implication that a single unarmed woman could have killed multiple congressweasels is so laughable I don’t even know how to describe it.

    It’s also sickening to note all of the snide comments they make about the late Ms. Babbitt in the article e.g. she didn’t advance in the air force, was struggling financially with her business, ranted loudly online. Of course they will never subject deceased black criminals to such intense scrutiny of character.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  33. Are American losing the ability to notice analogies?

    Liberal white Americans have stopped thinking entirely. The racial reckoning is a wave of evangelical religious fervor. The true believers are programmed with slogans and boiling with emotions. Average people are cowed down and afraid to think, much less speak up. The few who question the awakening are shouted down and cursed.
    There is a time and place for argument. We don’t argue with criminals – we use force (the police) to stop them in their tracks. Likewise we will not stop the racial reckoning with argument. The Woke have taken over our nation because they fight hard and dirty, from well-financed propaganda campaigns and ballot box stuffing to street violence. That is what winners look like.
    This is a depressingly cynical view of politics, but unfortunately is true. It’s not the noble New England town hall meeting I was taught to believe in in civics class. So sad that democracy doesn’t work.

  34. Anon[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    But he obviously forgot his training, panicked, pulled his gun, and fired off a shot at this woman who was happily going about her unlawful business.

    Now do Derek Chauvin and Kim Potter.

  35. George says:

    FRONTLINE

    American Insurrection

    Over the last three years, FRONTLINE has collaborated with ProPublica to investigate the rise of extremism in America. In the aftermath of the assault on the U.S. Capitol, FRONTLINE and ProPublica team up again to examine how far-right groups were emboldened and encouraged by former President Trump and how individuals were radicalized and brought into the political landscape.

    https://www.pbs.org/video/american-insurrection-65qeoo/

    Also from PBS,

    PHILLY D.A.
    https://www.pbs.org/independentlens/films/philly-da/

    In 2017, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania had one of the highest incarceration rates of any major city in the United States. And it’s become the epicenter of a historic experiment that could shape the future of prosecution in America for decades to come.

    Philly DA Larry Krasner and challenger Carlos Vega enter election homestretch as gun violence surges

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/philly-da-larry-krasner-and-challenger-carlos-vega-enter-election-homestretch-as-gun-violence-surges/ar-BB1fyMJa

  36. This is the only time the word “unarmed” is mentioned in a long article.

    And it’s obviously with great reluctance and surrounded by as much verbal equivocation as possible to defang any implications of shooting an unarmed woman:

    Two law enforcement officials familiar with the investigation have said that Babbitt was unarmed.

    “According to some people somewhere who may know something about what happened but could be wrong…”

  37. So much of this is a product of the 2012 Obama reelection effort, when the Democrats realized that they had lost White Working Class support in their “Big Blue Wall” States (PA/OH/MI/WI) as a result of the leftward tilt of the first term and therefore needed to make up for it by increasing enthusiasm among their fringe constituencies, particularly urban blacks.

    In the 1990s, Bill Clinton and the Democrats knew that they were dead in the water without White Working Class votes. So much so that Joe Biden sponsored, and gave speeches in favor of, the 1994 Violent Crime Act in which he spoke fairly plainly about urban crime and violence and in words that would get you deplatformed today. Clinton knew he had to sign it or lose reelection. In support, Hillary gave speeches referring to urban (black) perpetrators as “Supercriminals.”

    By 2012, Democrats needed to take the side of obvious violent street predators like Trayvon Martin in order to maintain their new emergent political coalition. The reasoning as to why someone like Michael Brown really shouldn’t have been shot while attacking a police officer and wrestling with him for his duty weapon amount to “well, we need those votes, so we have to say something.” The political need quite obviously precedes the narrative to be built around the event. If you can’t get enough WWC votes, but you can make up for that loss by whipping blacks into a frenzy (damn the collateral costs), then you have but one option. But now what was a cynical expeditious political ploy has seemingly become sincere belief among lots of people (sincere in that they feel it as I’m certain that they notice but dismiss the internal contradictions).

    Note the other public controversies of 2012 as well – then VP Biden “announcing” that he had evolved and that gay marriage – which he and Obama had previously opposed in 2008 – was now a good thing that should happen. Then (against the internal opposition of Biden and Bill Daley) Obama’s HHS Secretary made rules targeting Catholic institutions in order to force them to dispense pharmaceutical birth control as a part of the ACA. (The ACA which had passed only because Obama had given assurances to conservative Catholic Representatives from the Midwest such as Bart Stupak that the law would absolutely never do such a thing). I’m sure there are other examples we can recall from the 2012 Obama reelect in which Democrats reversed course and went hard left, particularly on social wedge issues. But I count this as the Rubicon that was crossed which brought us to this point.

    • Replies: @Alden
  38. epebble says:

    It is not a good analogy. For example:

    https://www.cnn.com/2014/04/08/us/miriam-carey-autopsy/index.html

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/07/us/minneapolis-mohamed-noor-sentenced

    So, events happened they way they have happened before. Intruders have been shot before; Cops who have killed accidentally have been prosecuted before.

  39. @Achmed E. Newman

    Mark Schamel, the defense attorney representing the shooter issued a statement regarding his client and the shooting of Ashli Babbitt…

    “My client is clearly a dark dullard, so it would be wrong and racist to punish him.”

  40. @Buzz Mohawk

    Well, they are in public. In private… you’d be surprised what you hear. Not me. I don’t hear a thing. Everyone I know is totally on board with the Reset.

    And my papers are in order.

  41. attempted to crawl through one of the broken panes of the Speaker’s Lobby doors, video shows.

    Crawling through a broken glass pane? That sounds weird to me. It must have been pretty cleanly punched out. I think she was being hoisted through, which gave the cop the impression of being swarmed.

    But as someone who thinks the cop was probably justified, I totally agree with this analogy. And I think the investigation of the Capitol cop should be released publicly, not that that will do any good, as it’s a whitewash. But I still want to see it.

  42. @Achmed E. Newman

    Be my guest. In the rare cases, i say something of value … it’s up for grabs for people to grab and hopefully improve upon.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  43. She didn’t just rant she ranted loudly. These journalists should be thrown in the gulag.

  44. Truth says:

    Hey Guys, Forge Gloyd and Cherrick Dauvin..

    https://worldstar.com/video.php?v=wshhMbxfo5Yo1mZIxW58

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  45. Justin Jouvenal

    Is this a hint? A Roman joke?

    What did Justinian think of Juvenal?

  46. Ragno says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    His name should be published, and he should actually be made to go back to work with a paper target pinned to his back as a corrective action plan and a toy gun to replace the real one.

    Precisely. Just like everyone now sitting in jail for snapping selfies and daring to sit in Queen Pelosi’s chair. You may rest assured THEY will be hounded long after this is over – presuming they don’t first get Fields-ed, and hit with 400-year sentences.

    Congress should demand that the Congressional police be disarmed and instructed to never prevent members of the public from addressing grievances with individual members of Congress or Senators or with Congress as a whole.

    Kind of like the cops in the 50 surrounding states will soon be prevented from arresting or even speaking out of turn to black felons.

    Is there any possible remaining doubt that Officer Sugarfoots is an officer of color?

  47. anonymous[416] • Disclaimer says:

    If you want to defend the Vice President, at some point you have to shoot.

  48. The policewoman in the Wright shooting has already been ‘perp walked’ before a mugshot camera.

    She is wearing an orange prisoner jumpsuit in her booking photo, just like Derek Chauvin.

    Ashli Babbitt’s killer is enjoying his official anonymity.

  49. @Achmed E. Newman

    Mr Mason longs for the days of bobbies on bicycles, two-by-two.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  50. Tiny Duck says:

    One was a treasonous enemy combatant that was trespassing and committing terrorism.

    One was a citizen, imperfect, but doing nothing wrong.

    You guys are insane.

  51. @Achmed E. Newman

    She had military training. His mistake was not to double tap her and ensure she died quickly. I do not believe in the justification of a slow death, although her crime was certainly a capital one.

  52. Authorities determined…

    So they say. What authorities? How did they determine?

    She was murdered in cold blood, and we all know it.

    It’s just who/whom, as Steve says.

    • Agree: Old Prude
  53. @Buzz Mohawk

    Are American[s] losing the ability to notice analogies?

    Yes, they are. Analogies are useful, logical constructs, which is why they were a part of college entrance exams.

    Key word there “were”.

    My skill set is more mathematical and logical. But i was able to put up a respectible verbal SAT score in part general intelligence, but in part because they still had the analogy section–i.e. actual verbal reasoning. But, of course, reasoning is something white guys do relatively better–ergo are sexist, racist. So analogies were given the boot to help women and NAMs “close the gap”.

    Ability to use analogies–this relationship is like that one–is part of the core of verbal reasoning. Without that ability everything encountered is “new”, must be puzzled out anew. Our verbalist elites don’t much like analogies for that reason. Without reasoning–it’s who/whom. For our verbalist elites, the duty of words is to lie and confuse issues, not clarify them.

  54. • Replies: @res
  55. Porky Pig was unavailable for comment.

    That’s all folks.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    , @Blodgie
  56. BenKenobi says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Per Orwell, deliberately not understanding analogies is a crucial part of Crime Stop.

    • Agree: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @res
  57. The Babbitt shooting is the least defensible cop shooting incident that I’ve ever seen.

  58. The current age.

    Respect the hustle.

  59. tanabear says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The Left is not anti-Police. They believe the purpose of a police force is to arrest and/or murder their political opposition. They want a state security police modeled after the NKVD of the old Soviet Union, the AVH of Hungary or the Stasi of East Germany. The police officer who shot Ashli Babbitt was fulfilling the function of what they want police officers to do (murder their political opponents) and is therefore acceptable and justified.

  60. They do like it, IB you dumbass, that’s why they take the money. First he doesn’t know how to score pot, now he thinks sponsored libertarians are patriotic or something*.

    When they send their Brahmins they aren’t sending their best. Only reason IB wouldn’t like it is that he wants the Brahmins to win the Scramble for the Americas instead of the PRC.

    * – most patriots are libertarian, which is how we got ourselves conquered. Very few libertarians are patriotic though, which makes sense if you understand those implications.

    • Replies: @Cowboy Shaw
    , @El Dato
  61. @Reg Cæsar

    Doesn’t have to long for them, he’s still there.

  62. @Achmed E. Newman

    Open season on white women looks like. Mostly from other white women.

    People talk about shutting down the mental hospitals. How about the nunneries?

    • Replies: @InnerCynic
  63. sameanon says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Don’t choke on your sarcasm before you
    remember Babbit was surrounded by many
    armed police/SWAT who paid little attention
    to her and to the sweet boy(s) pounding away
    at the windows.

    Are you the guy who changes Nadler’s diapers?

    Proudly.

  64. anon[171] • Disclaimer says:

    While this is obviously a case of Who? Whom? let’s not miss sight of the other aspect.

    Black Privilege.

    I shouldn’t have to explain this conspicuous elephant in the room.

  65. By the by, Mr Sailer is a net negative for your cause.

    Who; whom every time yet he leaves its corollary unsaid. The question is who has power and whom it is acted on.

    Fair is fair, when the USA leaned more white supremacist, Blacks were lynched with nary an emotional reaction other than they probably had it coming. Now, methinks, one sees the shoe on the other foot.

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
  66. “…..she became more interested in online misinformation and conservative causes…..”

    Which, acc’d to WaPo, are analogous. Synonymous, even.

  67. Travis says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    anyone who does not speak out against deplorables and actively support BLM is considered guilty and will be considered an enemy of the state. Those who refuse to condemn bad thoughts will no longer be safe in America. People had hoped that a Biden administration would help restore civility to American discourse are in for a rude awakening. The racial reckoning is about to begin.

    The coalition of the fringes actually has a majority now in America. This majority is rapidly growing as the borders have been opened and the white population is dying-off. We have already been replaced. At the top 100 Universities whites are already among the minority of students. Our High Schools are majority non-white today. Very soon the majority of the working age population will be non-white. The future is coming. Whites are now just 49% of the under 20 population.

    under age 40- 1990 —– 2020
    Whites —— 120 Million – 86 Million
    Non-Whites– 36 Million – 78 Million

    The white population is declining rapidly, down 26% from 1990 in the under age 40 cohort. This is such a dramatic shift in our demographics that is is hard to believe. From 75% white to 53% white in 30 years time. Whites have been replaced. It has already happened. The only demographics which matters to our future is those who can have children. The majority of whites females are no longer fertile. It is no longer possible to maintain a white majority in America. Too late. Ending immigration will have little impact now that the majority of our youth are non-white.

    • Replies: @notsaying
    , @Alden
  68. bartolo1 says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Premeditation on behalf of the shooter is worth consideration. Ashley Babbitt was not the target, the first person to breach the doorway, was going to get blasted.

    Notice the cops beating a hasty retreat seconds before the fatal shot.

    And for what purpose?

    Incitement to really riot.

    Even with the murder, it did not result in the desired outcome. And what was that desired outcome? More dead Babbitt’s who became enraged and had to be shot.

    Speculation. Yes

  69. And then one day, for no reason at all, there was a REAL insurrection in America.

  70. El Dato says:
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    “Righting past wrongs can only be done by righteously being an effing asshole now” is not a formula for success.

    • Replies: @Nigerian Nationalist
  71. Escher says:

    This is how cops have always been dealt with by juries in the past.

    • Replies: @gandydancer
  72. There was a prominent column in the Telegraph today, on the heels of Ed West’s essay a week or two ago following the increasing pattern of conservatives in the anglosphere noticing that America’s ruling elites are now mad, bad, and probably best kept at a distance.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/14/joe-bidens-woke-left-wing-agenda-catastrophe-free-world/

    I used to think that New Zealand was the potential soft underbelly of Five Eyes and the security of the west, perhaps being a soft touch for the Chinese. It’s clear the weakness in Five Eyes is right at the heart of it. How on earth can the Anglo populations of UK, Australia, Canada, and NZ rely on the lunatics in Washington for their defence?

    Once the new security establishment gets their head around the demographics and history of their closest allies, I suspect the aircraft carriers are heading our way. There will be some imperial and colonial scores to settle all round.

    • Replies: @anon
  73. El Dato says:

    OT for later

    After the Courageous Floating Black Glock Hand straight of a movie of “The Exorcist” franchise, closure of churches because Covid Is Your New God and Demands Sacrifice and Double Face Masks.

    Why are Christians who just want to worship being called Covid conspiracy theorists waging a holy war on lockdown?

    Pastor Coates, of GraceLife church in Alberta, Canada, was arrested on February 16 and sent to prison. He spent almost five weeks behind bars. For two weeks, he was in a cell on his own which he was only allowed to leave twice for 15 minutes. His crime was failing to place capacity restrictions upon the congregants in his church.

    Last week, in a dawn raid, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, private security contractors and a fencing company moved to execute an Alberta Health Services closure notice by fencing off the church. There were three fences, and no advance warning of any kind. Nothing was said to Pastor Coates or to his lawyers. Erin Coates, the pastor’s wife, posted images of the fence going up on Instagram.

    Does anyone know what the situation is for Mosques?

    • Replies: @Barnard
  74. @Desiderius

    One the most interesting questions for popcorn aficionados watching the ‘scramble for America’ from a safe distance is at what point does the current ruling class, upon whose head the crown sits uneasily, notice that the Brahmins are coming, and are not going to compromise. And there are lots of them.

    When does the corporate media and propaganda machine do an instantaneous flip and direct all its resources against East Aryan Brahmins, rather than co-opting them in the cause against the current West Aryan Bogeymen.

    Ten years? Twenty? When does Hank Azaria get his job back?

    • Replies: @Barnard
    , @Desiderius
  75. El Dato says:
    @Desiderius

    Well, the Brits are literally doing that with the Hong Kongers.

    Hong Kong is just a city with an Imperial Garrison / East India Company trading post on the side, right?

    I don’t know whether anyone has taken up the offer to relocate yet.

    Sorry Hong Kongers… broken Britain is in no fit state to open its doors and must rethink rash offer of citizenship

    The think tank Migration Watch said last week that if the annual figure holds up at around 260,000 once the Covid crisis passes, then by 2043 we would be needing an extra 4.7 million houses – meaning a new home built every five minutes or nearly 300 every day. Reach for the hammers. Now.

  76. who’s behind it steve? who has the power and the motive to do this crime?

    answer: it’s not golf pros. it’s people who sometimes wear small hats. and people who wear top hats.

    one would think that these two would’ve learned something from history, but no; they just blame their enemies.

  77. @Nigerian Nationalist

    Who is Steve’s boss? That boss is loyal to whom?

  78. TWS says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    To shoot unarmed women on the other side of a door of course.

    Why else might law enforcement be provided with firearms?

    The only possible reason is to shoot unarmed women. I have no idea why they missed the opportunity when they busted into the Kavanaugh hearings.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  79. @Buzz Mohawk

    I discovered how unpopular analogies are in my first teaching job. It was at an institution a couple rungs down from the places I’d been a student, so I wasn’t quite in tune at first. Well, on the midterm exam, I threw in some creative (I thought) SAT-type analogies (but with direct relevance to the material, which was economics). I thought my analogies would lighten the mood but they did not. I never did that again. I should have realized that at this school, the SAT was an unpleasant memory. It’s as though I’d made a rape joke in front of someone who’d been raped.

  80. TWS says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    You are a reverse barometer, always reliably wrong.

    Why do you bother commenting on American law enforcement and criminal justice? You are always wrong never within spitting distance of right and dangerously misinformed. Anything you say would quickly lead to actual material harm or death for anyone who takes what you write seriously.

    For Gods sakes you have one of the Duck’s sock puppets agreeing with you. Do you think that’s by accident? He is either the dumbest troll on the internet or the best larper since, ‘Amina’. Either way, it illustrates both the idiocy of your position and your cluelessness.

  81. Stan says:

    Defund the Capitol police.

  82. TWS says:
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    Why can’t we get a “Dumb ass” reaction? Mr. Unz this guy would be perfect.

    • Replies: @Nigerian Nationalist
  83. Nobody is writing about the fact that a cop accidentally shot a (probably white) guy in Hennepin County in 2015, and blamed it on adrenaline and “muscle memory”.  He kept his job. Not a joke:  
    https://startribune.com/documents-detail-accidental-eden-prairie-police-shooting/367030571/?refresh=true .  

    You can google the cop’s name (Soppeland) and see that no one has written about this, even though it is relevant.  There are obvious differences, in the earlier incident no one died – but someone could have, he was shot by a cop!  

    So the first one was treated as “accidents happen”, but now the DA is literally giving into mob rule in prosecuting that thot Wright. That’s not how prosecution decisions should be made in a country which is supposed to be governed by the rule of law.

    One could easily say there was a better argument for booting the first guy off the force as he could have a “muscle memory” or adrenaline problem at any time in the future, while the cop that shot Wright would probably never make the same mistake again.

    It was only luck that Soppeland did not kill his victim.

    Interesting article on acciental shootings by cop: https://apnews.com/article/009ac6cf0a174a58d88d9d01308aedd6

    • Thanks: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @epebble
  84. Why 43 year old lady cops shouldn’t be doing traffic stops on 21 year old males. This guy got back in the car and killed the officer by running her over.

  85. Anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:

    In light of the video evidence as well as all other information now known about the Babbit killing and the killer, it would be interesting to learn what really motivates the Steve Sailers of the world to claim the cop in question ‘likely panicked’.

    • Replies: @vhrm
  86. anon[793] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cowboy Shaw

    Thanks for that link.

    Once the new security establishment gets their head around the demographics and history of their closest allies, I suspect the aircraft carriers are heading our way.

    Huh, ok, name the Five Eyes countries that actually have functioning CV’s with aircraft.
    I’ll even start the game for you: the United States.

    Your turn!

    lol.

  87. vinteuil says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    The poor dumbfuck was scared shitless.

    You obviously haven’t bothered to watch the video of the shooting. Doesn’t stop you from commenting. So who’s the dumbfuck?

    Incidentally, the strangest thing about that video is that just a few seconds before the shooting, the cameraman captures two different guys more or less nodding/winking directly into the camera, like they were expecting him to be there.

    So what was that about?

    • Replies: @onetwothree
  88. utu says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    “But he obviously forgot his training” – Because he did not empty the magazine as in police shootings that you justify and defend.

  89. @kihowi

    You seem to think we live in a totalitarian country where government goons are allowed to shoot anyone who defies the state. You may be right.

    Protestors enter the capitol all the time, or at least they used to. It was only when the protestors were the wrong sort of people that it became okay to murder them.

  90. Alden says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    I don’t think the Capitol Police are just security guards. For one thing, DC is one of the most dangerous cities in the country because it has a high black population. There was a time not long ago that the Capitol Hill neighborhood was one of the most dangerous in the city because of the black predators. Capitol police shared policing duties in the neighborhood with the city police.

    There are also part of the federal protection service for everyone from president through Congress to civil service clerks and janitors. I don’t know how well trained they are. I do know they are a lot more than the security guards you see at the local small claims county courthouse or social security office. .

    It’s difficult for a foreigner like you to understand just how anti White and anti American the federal government is. And how anti White and anti American much of state and local government is.

    It’s not just affirmative action for non White immigrants and White hating American blacks and Whites. It’s been federal policy for the last 60 years. I worked county government 27 years. Most of the Whites were Marxist and anti White liberals. The blacks were worse. The FBI and Secret Service we sometimes worked with were all ultra liberal and anti White.

    I live near a big federal building. Judging by who goes from the parking lot to the offices at 8/30 AM and comes out at 5 PM seems like 30-40 percent black in a state that’s only 5 percent black and a metro area that’s inky about 10 percent black.

    There’s a huge Veterans Administration campus as well. I drive through it all the time. There must be a few workers who are not black but I’ve never seen any. Blacks don’t live in the neighborhood, thanks be to God.

    Government at all levels is anti White and anti American. David Bailey or Michael Leroy Boyd is a lieutenant. That means years of experience. Army lieutenants are low level. Police lieutenant is a high rank. They are given information and orders that lower level officers are not. The Capitol Police had a long time to plan for the January 6 protest.

    Maybe David Bailey aka Michael Leroy Boyd panicked. Maybe he didn’t. Whatever he is, he’s not an ordinary security guard.

    • Thanks: David In TN
  91. ATBOTL says:

    That kind of slowness is not unreasonable when tempers might be high. There are a lot angry crazies out there.

    It can never be justified to withhold the name of a police officer who killed a citizen for even one day. Grow a pair of balls, Steve.

  92. Alden says:
    @Redman

    If he was both a Lieutenant and part of the Vice Presidents security detail then he’s very very high level indeed. Not a panicked security guard as Jonathan Mason wrote. The Lieutenant is also about 40 pounds overweight for his height But that’s standard for black affirmative action law enforcement.

  93. @Seneca44

    You could go a little farther and say that there probably would have been plenty of reluctance to fire any shots in the first place — even if they were far more justified than the panicked overreaction in this case.

    Which of course sends the opposite message… the phrase “open season” comes to mind…

  94. epebble says:
    @Left Lawyer

    At least 15 officers in the US have mistaken guns for Tasers. Three were convicted.

    … A New York Times review of 15 cases of so-called weapon confusion over the past 20 years showed that only five of the officers were indicted. Only three, including the only two cases in which people were killed, were eventually found guilty.

    https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation-world/ct-aud-nw-nyt-officers-mistook-guns-tasers-20210414-pvgqpv4wfrhfzhpy2pzwjwbjha-story.html

    • Replies: @Left Lawyer
    , @Hibernian
  95. @vinteuil

    FYI

    https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/Don%27t+feed+the+troll

    Unz.com allows us to ignore people, but not those who respond to them. I hate to be a bitch here, but you guys have just got to stop feeding the trolls. Just ignore them. The internet has been around for decades–it is time to learn how to use it properly.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
  96. And the name of the police officer who shot Babbitt IS….??????????

    • Replies: @Alden
  97. @rebel yell

    It’s not the noble New England town hall meeting I was taught to believe in in civics class. So sad that democracy doesn’t work.

    So what are alleged freedom-loving people prepared to do?

    Nah, too hard, too much work.

    Better to grill, chill, have a few beers, watch a lil’ sportsball.

  98. @Achmed E. Newman

    We know everything except his name.

    Orwell? More like Sam Beckett’s “Waiting For Godot.”

  99. CCZ says:

    Tasers don’t always bring a resisting felon to comply. Police handguns don’t always work. And insufficient body searches of hospital patients can lead to death.

  100. CCZ says:

    White Lives Matter, when helping CNN support blm:

    In the latest undercover sting video by Project Veritas, CNN technical director Charlie Chester admitted that his network tries to help the Black Lives Matter movement, but reality keeps getting in the way.

    “I’m like, ‘what are you doing?’ We’re trying to help, like, with the BLM,” he vented, adding that the “optics” of black-on-Asian violence don’t help the BLM cause. “Little things,” like these hate crimes, “are enough to set back movements,” he added.

    He admitted that the media in general focuses on the race of shooters, but only if these shooters are white. “People were lapping up that it was like, you know, white guys,” he said.

    “I haven’t seen anything about focusing on the color of people’s skin that aren’t white,” he added, claiming that stories about non-white suspects lose “a little steam” when their skin color is mentioned.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/521178-cnn-blm-project-veritas/

    • Thanks: David In TN
  101. Anonymous[124] • Disclaimer says:

    So if small businesses owners shoot the undocumented shoppers who are breaking through their locked front doors to steal their sneakers, liquor, and weaves, will they be able to use the Babbitt Defense that the Hill cop used? he asked cynically.

  102. vinteuil says:

    As of now, John Sullivan’s video of the killing of Ashli Babbitt and the events leading up to it can still be seen on YouTube:

    Anybody with any interest in this event really should watch it all the way through.

    Ashli Babbitt gets killed at 35:05.

    • Thanks: YetAnotherAnon
  103. @Achmed E. Newman

    Should have arrested him for that tie.

  104. @Cloudbuster

    “Authorities determined that there was insufficient evidence to prove Babbitt’s civil rights were violated”

    They applied the paper bag test to the cop.

  105. SafeNow says:

    “Are American losing the ability to notice analogies?”

    Missing the Babbit/Wright differences and similarities is like missing a tuba in a telephone booth.

    Imposing Biden’s agenda on the U.S. is like strapping a piano onto Fred Astaire’s back and expecting him to still dance.

    (The best I can do right now.)

  106. Anon[328] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: A black school teacher and black coach tried to rob a couple of members of Mexico’s Sinaloa drug cartel in North Carolina. The blacks were blown away when other members of the Sinaloa cartel showed up. “The trailers that were shot up, it looked like an old Western shootout.” One of the teachers wore a bulletproof vest, and the cops think the teachers were following cartel members via electronic tracking.

    Those blacks got regular jobs and still couldn’t run their lives right. They must have been planning to sell drugs to their students.

    https://www-wsoctv-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.wsoctv.com/news/local/sheriff-popular-union-county-coach-killed-shootout-with-mexican-drug-cartel/P4M26CUMNVGTHPE7KRIQMQC42M/?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&outputType=amp&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#aoh=16184664568879&amp_ct=1618466561049&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsoctv.com%2Fnews%2Flocal%2Fsheriff-popular-union-county-coach-killed-shootout-with-mexican-drug-cartel%2FP4M26CUMNVGTHPE7KRIQMQC42M%2F

  107. Anonymous[421] • Disclaimer says:
    @vinteuil

    As of now, John Sullivan’s video of the killing of Ashli Babbitt and the events leading up to it can still be seen on YouTube:

    What is the takeaway?

  108. Alden says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Slight quibble. The tough on crime era was the result of about 12 years of serious widespread lobbying by police unions and lobbyists, the association of chiefs of police and most of all the county district attorney and state attorney generals lobbyists. The feminazis also did a great job lobbying for prosecution of rapists and child molesters who tend to be black.

    The entire victim’s rights movement was part of the concerted effort by police prosecutors and feminazi lobbyists.

    At a sentencing hearing the defense argues that Shitavious is a poor black baby who accidentally crippled an old woman while robbing her to feed his hungry self . After victims rights and much effort by lobbyists ; the prosecution can bring in the old lady in her wheel chair and convince even the most liberal White hating Jew judge to send Shitavious off for a maximum term.

    I know the MEN OF UNZ don’t like Kamala Harris but as deputy DA, elected DA and state attorney general she was part of that anti black criminal movement and a great prosecutor

    In great contrast to the SF DA she ran against, 4 th generation communist pro criminal Terence Hallinan.

    The tough on crime cause didn’t just happen. It took a good 12 15 years, massive lobbying and tens of millions of dollars.

    The let black criminals destroy the country cause didn’t just happen either. Billions from Soros and his co conspirators and the usual suspects Jews blacks have every college teacher in the country DOJ, state Justice departments the election of pro criminal county and state prosecutors.

    • Replies: @anon
  109. Paleoconn says:

    This article is about as unintentionally funny as the attorney statement on the cop’s heroism and restraint.

    It took 3 guys to write this crap?

  110. @vinteuil

    It shows that the mob of backpackers was way out of control and deplorable. The police were remarkably restrained under the circumstances. They probably should have used teargas outside the building to disperse the mob, but they were apparently poorly prepared.

    The police strategy seems to be to delay the mob as long as possible while waiting for reinforcements, and giving the Congress critters time to make a getaway via the emergency exits.

    They probably used training video from the old Lone Ranger TV series in which the Masked Man usually said at some point: “You keep shooting Tonto, and I’ll go round the back way.”

    The shooting was clearly a turning point, and probably did save many lives. Ashli Babbitt gave her life for her country, only not quite the way she expected.

    • Replies: @Getaclue
  111. @Jonathan Mason

    “Rampaging”? I am not sure that you know what that word means.

  112. Yet another Black Body (only 13 years old) tragically gunned down, just as he was about to turn his life around:

    Breaking: Bodycam Video Of A Chicago PD Officer Fatally Shooting The 13-year-old Adam Toledo Was Just Released – BLM Starts Riots Before The Video Was Released

    https://www.usasupreme.com/breaking-bodycam-video-of-a-chicago-pd-officer-fatally-shooting-the-13-year-old-adam-toledo-was-just-released-blm-starts-riots-before-the-video-was-released/

    The other officer chased Toledo, repeatedly telling him to stop, and eventually, Toledo stopped near a break in a wooden fence, prosecutors stated. Toledo, who was standing with his left side facing the officer and holding his hand to his right side, was ordered by the officer to show his hands, Cook County Assistant State’s Attorney James Murphy said.

    The officer told the teen to “drop it, drop it,” as Toledo, with a gun in his right hand, turned toward the officer, prosecutors said. The officer opened fire, striking the teen once in the chest. The gun Toledo was holding landed a few feet away, prosecutors said.

    • Replies: @Alden
  113. Corvinus says:

    “recall how the SAT dropped its analogy questions due to a petulant demand by the U. of California chancellor.”

    Let us properly offer the context. Is it a), b), c), or d)? It’s a softball question, even Rice graduates should be able to figure it out.

    a) UC President Richard Atkinson had railed against the analogies, which account for 19 of the SAT’s 72 verbal questions, as a memory drill that measured little of a student’s potential. He threatened to scrap the SAT as a UC requirement unless the test makers replaced the multiple-choice analogies with reading comprehension questions, added a writing exercise and expanded the math portion.

    b) Analogy questions were removed in 2005 when the verbal reasoning section of the SAT was renamed “critical reading”. These questions were criticized for being irrelevant to success in a college or work environment. Analogy questions gave the SAT its reputation for using “tricky” question formats and being a puzzle rather than a straightforward assessment.

    c) The revamped SAT I exam scraps the analogy section, mainly because University of California President Richard Atkinson argued the SAT did not test skills that college students use most, or skills that were part of the high school curriculum. And students who took private test preparation courses generally fared better on this section, fueling charges of a tilted playing field.

    d) All of the above.

    • Replies: @InnerCynic
  114. Getaclue says:
    @kihowi

    Except “Code Pink” and various other Leftists and Leftists groups have done so and never been shot — in fact the WaPo et al cheered them on….This was selective because it was Conservatives coming in — although it is pretty clear by now the Agent Provacateurs who broke the windows etc. were not part of them — those would be the “Unindicted Co-Consprirators” — nothing will happen to them as most certainly they were working with the FBI, the guy with the fancy sneakers who left the “bomb” and walked off waving in the last frames — definitely him also….The country is under control of NWO types– they intend to destroy it which has always been the NWO game plan for the USA.

  115. Barnard says:
    @El Dato

    The media is putting PR for the mosques claiming they are all in compliance with the restrictions and some of them have criticized GraceLife church for holding services. I saw a post somewhere claiming to be from a Calgary mosque with a packed parking lot of Friday, but it was unconfirmed.

  116. @dearieme

    Did you see that the InfoWars reporter who filmed the shooter was arrested, yet crickets on the shooter.

  117. Getaclue says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Your comment is moronic…but maybe you meant it to be, so I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt as to whether you are too….

  118. Babbitt was for Trump while Wright probably was not.

    This season of American Idol has a highly talented, final dozen. Several have a serious chance of wining (take ye’r pick).

    One competitive contestant is a teen male, hard country singer/songwriter from SC (Caleb Kennedy). He’s unabashedly pro-Trump.

    He’s got my 10 weekly, unsolicited, text-in votes.

  119. Corvinus says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The difference between Ashli Babbitt and Daunte Wright is if Wright had been an insurrectionist he would’ve been shot blocks from the Capitol on January 6 whereas Babbitt was climbing through a window co-conspirators had just smashed in the Speaker’s Lobby feet from a congressman.

    “Jonathan, it was quite obvious to anyone that the crowd at the Capitol on Jan. 6th was not attacking any members of Congress and that it was not an insurrection.”

    Not quite.

    https://sethabramson.substack.com/p/videos-point-to-white-house-proud

    • Troll: Wade Hampton, TWS
    • Replies: @vinteuil
  120. raga10 says:

    More likely, he panicked, as cops (not to mention the rest of us) often do when the adrenaline surges.

    Panic might be understandable when faced with angry mob (which is why I’m inclined to go easy on Kyle Rittenhouse) but that excuse doesn’t fly so well in Wright’s case, where cops had 3:1 advantage.

  121. • Replies: @David In TN
  122. vinteuil says:

    The shooting was clearly a turning point, and probably did save many lives.

    Before seeing the video, you claimed that the assassin was “scared shitless.”

    Now you claim that his ruthless act “probably did save many lives.”

    Wow.

    How do you live with yourself?

    Are you not ashamed?

  123. Dr. Doom says:

    Ah, the Anti-White policies are getting NOTICED at last.
    White people NEED to see the Anti-White System as an ENEMY.

    They need to STOP FEEDING THE BEAST.
    Avoid the petrodollar. Do not buy brand names from Anti-White Corpses.

    Crush the system at the Source. Its Economy.
    Barter, trade skills and DO NOT PAY TAXES.

    Strike at the Heart of the Darkness.
    Let the Anti-Whites try to keep the lights on.

    Sabotage, subvert and smile.

  124. Her ex-husband, Timothy McEntee, has said she served in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    It’s ridiculous – RIDICULOUS – to assume that a reporter working for one of the most prestigious papers in this country would stoop to checking her military record. It’s better to leave things to rumor and innuendo, or at least let them appear left there by simply not doing a journalist’s job.

    Resistance!

    • Agree: ScarletNumber
  125. Barnard says:
    @Cowboy Shaw

    I assume they think they will be accepted by the Brahims as equals and will assist in attempts to form a worldwide caste society. When they realize they are wrong about that is anyone’s guess.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  126. Alden says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    You’re just making a fool of yourself commenting about things of which you know nothing such as national police guarding the national government buildings in the Capitol city of the nation.

    In any country in the world from China USA EU headquarters in Brussels to Cesspoolastan; the national police guarding the national government buildings are not the security guards in office buildings or retail stores.

  127. vinteuil says:
    @vinteuil

    btw – since this video proves, all by itself, that the left’s narrative about 1/5 is a tissue of lies, I can’t help but wonder why YouTube still leaves it up – albeit with an “age-restricted” warning.

  128. mousey says:
    @AKAHorace

    Analogous. The Officer in MN panicked and grabbed her gun instead of her taser. She’s been fired and is charged with manslaughter.

    • Agree: Wade Hampton
  129. Anon[308] • Disclaimer says:

    You wouldn’t have written this post if Babbit was a BLM rioter who broke into the Capitol in the aftermath of a Trump win, and was shot dead.

    It’s a stretch to link the two cases.

    For what it’s worth, the Wright killing was almost certainly an accident and the officer is going to be racially crucified. I also think live ammo should be used by authorities on violent rioters, including BLM looters, who are uncontrollable by other means (that’s why the National Guard is so effective at doing what it does). But being killed in an accidental police shooting is not remotely similar to being shot as part of a rioting mob, regardless of your race.

  130. Alden says:
    @vinteuil

    I watched it. It was pretty obvious the uniformed police did a great job of inciting the crowd into places where the crowd could be trapped The army was probably assembling troops and buses to arrest and transport the arrestees to some nearby military or FEMA jail.

    If I were running the Capitol police that day; I’d have many David Bailey’s hiding in the other side of the door to shoot to kill, not just shoot at, the first person to come through that door. I’m sure the Capitol police know a lot more about how to stop an unruly crowd than I do.

    The murder of the first person through the locked door into the Capitol assembly meeting room can be justified in a way that shooting and killing people roaming through public spaces open to the public cannot.

    From a law enforcement perspective, the uniforms did a perfect job of an organized retreat luring the demonstrators into a place where killing at least one could be justified.

    And Bailey or Boyd the black murderer could not have been panicked. He was safe. The White uniforms surrounded by the aggressive crowd weren’t t panicked even after it was known Ashli was dead. Notice how professional they were?

    In civilian self defense terms, waiting till the burglar is inside the house rather than on the porch or patio before shooting him in self defense.

    Just my personal opinion ; there were several shooters, excellent shots waiting to shoot the first demonstrators who came through the door. Seems sensible standard tactics. It’s probably in their manual. To my amateur eyes, it seemed a perfect shot diagonally right to her head or neck. What was the distance 15 feet maybe?

    The retribution dealt to the demonstrators is very vicious police state. It’s because they are White.

    The entire thing was a set up, like ATF FBI SPLC spent a couple years entrapping Randy Weaver into modifying a shotgun.

    There were supposed to be Klu Klux Klan White supremacist Nazi rallies in S California last weekend. No one came. I assumed it was an FBI SPLC ADL entrapment set up.

    • Agree: Jonathan Mason
    • Replies: @anon
  131. notsaying says:
    @Travis

    “It is no longer possible to maintain a white majority in America. Too late. Ending immigration will have little impact now that the majority of our youth are non-white.”

    Unfortunately nothing was done over the past 40 years and the country has been permanently transformed. But I completely disagree that we should give up and accept continued mass immigration and the even greater numbers wanted by business and the Biden administration. Future generations are counting on us to stop the madness. We have already failed them in the past. We have an even greater obligation to come through now after having failed in the past.

    We already have the bad. We can prevent things from getting even worse.

    • Agree: Desiderius, InnerCynic
    • Replies: @Travis
  132. Alden says:
    @Travis

    “ the majority of White females are not fertile”

    And you aren’t fertile either and have probably never done the deed to make a baby in your life. Are you aware it takes a man and a woman to make a baby, or at least an egg, a sperm and a Petri dish? The Alden family is doing just fine in the fertility department; popping out blue eyed beautiful White babies as every 25-30 years.

    This is the perfect website for you. The site of the childless men too poor too creepy too weird too something to find a White woman with whom to make a baby.
    Just because you can’t make White babies, don’t assume everyone is as impotent as you.

    • Replies: @Travis
  133. MEH 0910 says:

    OT:
    Steve Sailer Retweeted:


    [MORE]

  134. @Jonathan Mason

    If you actually looked at the video you would know that Babbitt when shot was already surrounded by other officers who didn’t seem to be having much problem trying to restrain her. Her interactions on camera with the other officers just seem to suggest that they were on friendly terms. Then out of nowhere the hand with the gun pops out and she goes down. This was not at all justifiable.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  135. Brutusale says:
    @vinteuil

    People worth reading on Substack, like Greenwald and Taibbi, are pretty much always available on other aggregation sites, as people want to read and comment.

    Conspiracy theorist English prof Twateratti like Abramson, not so much.

    • Agree: vinteuil
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  136. @Achmed E. Newman

    We don’t even have the name of this murderer. He shot an unarmed woman. He wasn’t heroic.

    Good point. Note also that the reason that we don’t know the killer’s name is that the major semitic narrative promotion agencies successfully conspired to suppress any mention of it — and that their open collusion in protecting the murderer is viewed as entirely “normal,” even laudable, behavior in the current year.

    And Sailer’s claim here is simply ludicrous, of course:

    To me, the late Daunte Wright and the late Ashli Babbitt can be compared fairly directly. Both were lawbreakers (resisting arrest vs. breaking and entering) who got shot dead by cops who made dubious-looking but perhaps justifiable decisions.

    Ashli Babbitt was a peaceful, unarmed protester who was murdered in cold blood by an assassin who was motivated solely by virulent, unreasoning anti-White hatred — partly endogenous and partly due to false consciousness/ internalized systemic semitism. The killer’s rage and hatred was clearly stoked, not only by his in-group preference and irrational fear of the White “Other,” but by internalization of the hegemonic “news” media narrative with respect to BLM and White “r****ts.” And Ashli’s murder was supported/ endorsed by nearly all major corporate oligarchs, not just those controlling the so-called “news” media.

    Wright was an armed robber on the run from the law, whose death came about due to a combination of his own poor judgment/ absence of impulse control and the incompetence of the female officer who shot him. And how did the major semitic narrative promotion agencies characteriz that incident?

    1. Wright was a “good boi” who “dindu nuffin”

    2. The female cop’s incompetence somehow amounted to “White supreemist not-see hatred” and “premeditated homicidal intent.”

    Absolutely no comparison. Is Sailer being deliberately disingenuous here? If not, it kinda looks like he’s the one who needs to study up on how analogies function.

  137. @MEH 0910

    I think people knew the Russian bounty on American soldiers “story” was a completely fabricated lie. I certainly did, because there were nothing but “anonymous” sources, i.e. deep state operatives out to get Trump by any means necessary. This is the crap that passes for journalism these days.

  138. Travis says:
    @notsaying

    True, we can slow down the decline. Eliminating the diversity visa would be one simple goal which help. Bringing back the Hart-Celler quotas would be far more than we could ever dream possible today.

    The Hart-Celler Immigration Act imposed strict quotas on each nation, the same annual cap of 20,000 was imposed on every country, and for the first time countries in the American hemisphere faced numeric caps on immigration. The law placed an annual cap of 170,000 visas for immigrants from the Eastern Hemisphere, with no single country allowed more than 20,000 visas, and for the first time established a cap of 120,000 visas for immigrants from the Western Hemisphere.

    But there is not a single politician who would attempt such a reduction on legal immigration. Hart-Celler would be seen as a draconian white supremacist act today, becuse it would cut immigration by 60% and eliminate the H1b visa program, eliminate the diversity visa and cap China, India and Mexico at 20,000 immigrant visas per year.

  139. @MEH 0910

    This was a huge story that generated weeks of breathless coverage and millions in donations for Lincoln Project types

    • LOL: InnerCynic
  140. @Truth

    Hey Guys, Forge Gloyd and Cherrick Dauvin..

    Just passed a stretch of highway where the volunteer cleanup duties were assumed by “the family of Floyd Dodge”. Makes one wonder if that other Floyd’s family will be tidying up a shoulder or two anytime soon. Or even BLM.

    It’s been a rough week. Time to settle down with a rum & RC, paired with a Moon Pie.

  141. @Paperback Writer

    Forbes magazine had a story today saying it was the policy of the Capitol police not to release the names of officers involved in a shooting.

    Do you think the media couldn’t discover and publish the name of the individual who killed Ashli Babbitt if they wanted to?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Paperback Writer
  142. Mike Tre says:

    Another g-rated comment flushed by Steve. It’s unfortunate that outright lies are given approval regularly and promptly here, but a flippant equivocation is apparently too controversial.

    I’ll send you a dollar next April, Steve, if you can go a year without deleting one of my comments.

  143. Alden says:
    @Prester John

    Either David Bailey a fat black Brazilian immigrant or Michael Leroy Boyd or Byrd a fat black American murdered Ashli Babbitt

    Bailey is not a Portuguese name. Bailey, Byrd or Boyd, he is active BLM. He was one of the guards who were present when Republican Congress critters playing baseball were shot by liberals a few years ago.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  144. Alden says:
    @Calvin Hobbes

    Adam’s street names were l’l homicide and diablo. I wonder what he was doing out at 2/30 AM with an adult man. Boy prostitute ? Drug runner getting product giving money to his supplier?

  145. Anonymous[406] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Cops are the gendarme of the State. Nothing more. Nothing less.

  146. anon[205] • Disclaimer says:
    @David In TN

    I’m mildly surprised no one has turned the autists of chan-land loose on it.

  147. @epebble

    I saw that article as well – it would be interesting to know the ethnicity of the victims.

  148. @AKAHorace

    His job is not to panic. That is why we rely on him. Why should he be not accountable?

  149. @Cowboy Shaw

    A crown has never sat more easily than it does on our Unruling Class. Ignorance is bliss.

    Notice they’re coming? They’re the ones who’ve been furiously importing them. What was the very first thing the Senate did when they were finally liberated from Trump? They lifted the immigration country caps by unanimous consent for the express purpose of turning up the Brahmin pipeline to full blast.

    They know that the only way to keep the status that means everything to them is by implementing a hard Caste System entirely divorced from merit, so they’ve brought in the just the people for the job.

  150. @Barnard

    Lol, no.

    Accepted by the Brahmins as equals? They’re the acceptors, not the acceptees. You have no idea just how racist and ignorant these people are, do you? Dot Indians are just another brown pet that they can re-create in their image. They’re never going to realize anything. The merely real is for the hoi polloi.

  151. @TWS

    To shoot unarmed women on the other side of a door of course.
    Why else might law enforcement be provided with firearms?

    Poor Mohamed Noor, he was a pioneer!

    • LOL: TWS
  152. Wilkey says:

    More likely, he panicked, as cops (not to mention the rest of us) often do when the adrenaline surges.

    I’m sure the point has already been made, but there was nothing in this murderer’s demeanor that suggests panic. He saw a white protestor posing no real threat and he carefully squeezed off the fatal shot.

    And Congress won’t even tell us his name. The name of every other police officer who kills a suspect in this country is quickly made public. But not the name of this murderer. Congress sees itself as above the law, and above the American mpeople. Not even Republicans in Congress have revealed his name.

  153. @Magic Dirt Resident

    Regarding your 2nd paragraph, MDR, you are right that they leave all that out for deceased black criminals. I think there’s more to it – in bringing out some bad things about Mrs. Babbitt, the Lyin’ Press wants to build a narrative of justification for the shooting, as if this were a court of law but with less stringent rules.

    With a black criminal, before the happening, the cops may very well know some of this, as they can get the dispatcher to look up records. They may already have a reason to lean toward a reaction. This guy had no idea who Ashlii Babbitt was (as if some of her problems described were a reason to shoot her dead in the first place).

  154. @TWS

    Says the bloke forced to grovel in his own country.

  155. @El Dato

    That is just the thing. You think ‘they’ are being assholes. But who are you? You have no power.

    Those that have power think they are righteous. Even better, they are righteous tool useful for appropriating what little powers you have.

  156. Anon[221] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    A black school teacher and black coach tried to rob a couple of members of Mexico’s Sinaloa drug cartel in North Carolina.

    Wow. They got in way over their heads. The level of dark-triad viciousness among these Mexican cartel guys is unbelievable.

    Just the same, the planning of these black idiots was more impressive than I would have expected: GPS trackers, bulletproof vests, gloves. And the two-tap in the head execution was pretty brutal.

  157. @AKAHorace

    Perhaps there were less dangerous methods of fulfilling his duty, but the officer was charged with protecting the Congress and its members and the mob was large and angry and loud; how on earth could he possibly evaluate its exact level of dangerousness?

  158. Mr Mox says:

    This is the only time the word “unarmed” is mentioned in a long article.

    Now compare it to St. Trayvon Martin. From MSM’s harping over his ascension you would think “unarmed” was his middle name.

  159. KenH says:

    Who-Whom indeed. The media shows its thinly veiled disgust and revulsion when writing about Ashli Babbitt and acts as if she brought this on herself and deserved her fate. But black criminals who get themselves shot while forcibly resisting arrest are always given the benefit of the doubt and the cops are the bad guys no matter the circumstances.

  160. @rebel yell

    I gave up on that Norman Rockwellesque picture in my mind of what civics should be a long time ago. Democracy IS violence when you boil it down. The totalitarians shouting at you love to toss that word around so long as it serves their purpose in destroying you. Like Spooner, and his view of the Constitution, I’ve come to the conclusion that whether it be one thing or another it has either been powerless to stop or has actually aided in the destruction of society.

  161. Travis says:
    @Alden

    Good to hear you have blue eyed children, they are becoming quite rare in America. Two of my kids have Blue eyes one has hazel eyes like my wife.

    The number of whites with blue eyes has fallen dramatically over the past 100 years. Back in 1910 over half of American whites had Blue eyes. Today just 24% of white Americans have Blue eyes.

  162. Blodgie says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The guy holding the pig head is a twat, but I do agree with one thing he said…

    “Why the fuck do the police have armored vehicles?”

    Babbitt was a fool. First for joining the military to die for abstractions and secondly for joining the LARPing spergs who attacked the capitol.

    She seemed to have some kind of unconscious death wish as many military fools do.

    When you go out of your way to look for trouble, don’t be surprised when you find it.

  163. @Desiderius

    Nunnery? You must mean universities and womens colleges.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  164. @Corvinus

    Their lack of understanding “tricky” questions must explain their ability in parroting propaganda so easily.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  165. 3g4me says:
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    @67 Nigerian Nationalist: Careful, your lust to spill White blood is showing. Much more profitable for you here to pretend to be a somewhat intelligent ape.

  166. 3g4me says:
    @Anon

    @108 Anon[328]: Must’ve been White supremacy killing black bodies again. And the famed ‘black middle class’ is real.

  167. @Alden

    Of course Bailey is not a Portuguese name, but Brazil is a massive immigrant country (like the US) and has many immigrants from the Caribbean.

    No doubt the prevailing view here is that there is a conspiracy to to populate the United States with Haitians, but if that is the case then it is even more the case in Brazil, which has received huge numbers of Haitians since the earthquake of 2010.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald_Bailey

  168. @David In TN

    Of course they could. We used to have journalists who would have done so – they were always on the fringes, but we had them. All the greats have died.

    That said I agree w/’anon’ – I looked on Kiwi Farms & found nothing. Maybe it’s on some other chan?

  169. Old Prude says:
    @fnn

    Sniper head shot to a lady holding a baby is pretty bad, but I always thought using a flame-thrower tank on a compound of children to save them from abuse was a bit excessive.

    • Replies: @anon
  170. anon[342] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    •Troll

  171. res says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Has Chelsea Clinton ever said or done anything the slightest bit worthwhile?

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  172. res says:
    @BenKenobi

    Seems like a good time for this full quote.
    https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/725596-crimestop-means-the-faculty-of-stopping-short-as-though-by

    Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. Crimestop, in short, means protective stupidity.

    Not sure whether he is implying intentionally doing those root causes or not. Seems like TPTB would prefer the peons truly not understand.

  173. vhrm says:
    @Anonymous

    In light of the video evidence as well as all other information now known about the Babbit killing and the killer, it would be interesting to learn what really motivates the Steve Sailers of the world to claim the cop in question ‘likely panicked’.

    Have you watched said video evidence?

    IDK if “panicked” is right, maybe “overwhelmed” is a better word? The whole thing is tentative as he kind of shakes his gun around a bit then he steps forward and takes a single shot and then retreats.

    That’s not how a police deployment of deadly force is supposed to work. If he shot at all to stop a serious threat to himself or the people he was protecting at such short range he should have taken several shots to neutralize that threat that he identified.

    If he was trying to scare people off (which is totally not authorized in the US, but TBH i think it should be in some extreme cases) then he should have just taken the shot into the floor.

    The tentative thing he actually DID suggests he didn’t see it as a serious threat and he may not even have REALLY meant to shoot but “the gun went off”. (it’s one of the dangers of having your finger on the trigger for extended periods)

  174. @res

    Nice quote.

    Orwell has been my favorite writer since the age of 12, so you are preaching to the converted, but it strikes me on rereading this passage that it can be interpreted by both sides of the argument as being in their favor.

    This quotation is from 1984, and not from his essays or journalism, and it is a pity that he doesn’t attach any particular examples from real life that inspired the obviously heartfelt comment of somebody who felt that he himself had been on the wrong end of protective stupidity.

  175. @res

    In many instances Crimestop is the same thing as what psychologists often call Denial–a conscious or unconscious refusal to acknowledge certifiable facts because to do so would be deleterious to the individual or organization and its self-image.

  176. @Anon

    The blacks were blown away when other members of the Sinaloa cartel showed up.

    Our Mexifriends are in a good place.

    They have some conquistador genes so they have inherited some of that ruthlessness, sense of adventure, and planning ability.

    They have Aztec/Mayan heritage, two cultures that performed ritual human sacrifice for centuries, so they aren’t squeamish at all.

    They seem to lack the impulse to ethnic suicide we find in most people with Euro heritage.

    Who knows if that impulse is nulled out by the Mesoamerican genes or if it was never present due to the self-selecting nature of the conquistador demographic?

  177. vhrm says:
    @res

    I hadn’t seen that text in a while. It’s so apropos to what the media is doing currently with regard to their coverage.

    When it comes to pro Narrative stories they can expound on complex webs of causation across centuries and oceans to show how it’s relevant to the plight of BIPOCs or how Russia supported Trump or why we should be locked down for covid forever even as we now get yearly booster vaccines from Pfizer, apparently.

    But the other way they’re basically reduced to typing exercise level understanding:
    There is no proof of Dem election irregularities. end of story. (and you’re banned for asking)
    There is nothing to look into about Hunter Biden’s laptop or his Ukraine or China deals. end of story.

    Rep Ilhan Omar says she didn’t marry her brother to commit immigration fraud and didn’t dump her second husband for her campaign consultant to whom the campaign has paid $800K over the years. Sounds legit. Nothing to investigate here.

    etc. etc.

  178. Corvinus says:
    @InnerCynic

    “Their lack of understanding “tricky” questions must explain their ability in parroting propaganda so easily.”

    Don’t be too hard on iSteve, he;’s under stress to make some mammon.

    • LOL: InnerCynic
  179. Corvinus says:
    @Brutusale

    Greenwald and Taibbi consistently get their clock cleaned by Abramson. You truly have no idea what you are talking about.

    • LOL: vinteuil
  180. @res

    She’s well paid.

    Apparently, someone thinks her words are worthwhile.

    • Replies: @res
  181. vinteuil says:
    @onetwothree

    I hate to be a bitch here, but you guys have just got to stop feeding the trolls.

    …but that would mean not feeding you!

    • LOL: Hibernian
  182. Hibernian says:
    @epebble

    Thirteen people were lucky, some more than others, that cops don’t tend to be great marksmen. (I surmise that the conviction without a fatality probably involved serious injury, likely very serious.)

  183. anon[248] • Disclaimer says:
    @Old Prude

    flame-thrower tank on a compound of children

    Did not happen.

    • Replies: @Old Prude
  184. @InnerCynic

    No, that’s what replaced them, badly. These women used to be Married to Christ.

    • Agree: InnerCynic
    • Replies: @InnerCynic
  185. Old Prude says:
    @anon

    Okay, okay: Flame-thrower tank on a compound of women and children. Better?

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @anon
  186. @Desiderius

    Now they’re “married” to God knows what!

  187. Both were lawbreakers (resisting arrest vs. breaking and entering) who got shot dead by cops who made dubious-looking but perhaps justifiable decisions.

    What? Tasing Daunte Wright may have been justified, but trying to shoot him with darts rather than employing the Taser in driver mode was never going to work. Even if she hadn’t mistaken her gun for a Taser(!) Potter was more likely to Tase the officer with his hands on Wright than her intended target. There is no way this affirmative action hire should have been let loose on the public equipped with a gun.

    And Babbitt was murdered, pure and simple. Justifiable lethal force would require that a reasonable person would apprehend her to pose an imminent threat to SOMEone, and she didn’t remotely do that. If the cop hadn’t been so cowardly hiding around the corner a gentle push would have deposited her back on the landing. And with the barricade still in front of her she wasn’t going anywhere fast with her nonexistent weapons.

  188. res says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Apparently, someone thinks her words are worthwhile.

    Or her political connections.

  189. @Achmed E. Newman

    You don’t just sail right through that – you’d either want to clear all the glass out… or you get through very, very carefully

    The most common videos concentrate on the guy in the fur-lined hat bashing windows before Babbitt is first seen, landing on the floor. But there is video from behind her showing her achieving a precarious perch on the window frame immediately before she was murdered. No, she was no threat to anyone, and she would have tumbled back if merely pushed, but this particular argument you are making needs to reflect observable fact: no further glass clearing was necessary.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  190. @kihowi

    People trashing the capitol building and trying to get into the chamber obviously should be shot. Can’t have a serious country otherwise.

    That ship has sailed. Serious countries don’t let their Presidential elections be stolen in favor of dementia patients. And seriously lawful countries don’t let their cops get away with murder just because said cops are too incompetent to keep unarmed protestors out of buildings.

  191. @Achmed E. Newman

    …they’ll railroad him like they did James Fields in Charlottesville, Virginia.

    There were legal atrocities after Charlottesville (convicting the KKK guy who drove off James Long when he was wielding his improvised flamethrower, and who was a was not prosecuted in the garage episode, comes to mind) but Fields is guilty as hell and I see no signs that he was “railroaded”.

  192. @gandydancer

    Fields was surrounded by Antifa thugs and he made a decision to drive his buttocks out of there really quick. A perfectly understandable decision, whether or not the execution of it was handled as well as it could have been. The charges against him were that he had carried out a pre-planned action aimed at killing Antifa punks by riding into them. That was obviously untrue. Look up the name “Alek Minassian” for an example of how that’s done. If the charges against him were true then Fields would have killed something on the order of 10 people, the way that Minassian did. There was only 1 fatality. Moreover, as I recall the recorded cell-phone activity of Fields right before the incident show that he was looking up directions on how to get out. That’s not what you’d expect from someone who was following a pre-planned murder scenario.

    The court framed Fields up because they were determined to get Antifa off the hook. The only logical alternative to framing Fields on charges of calculated murder would have been to place some blame on scum like Dwayne Dixon who had bragged on Twitter about threatening Fields with a gun. Nobody wanted to admit that Antifa had created a high-pressure situation where someone was likely to get hurt. So instead they framed Fields up on false charges. Now today, if you are ever accosted on the roadway by a bunch of Antifa or Black Lies Matter thugs and find yourself contemplating driving through them to save your neck, just remember to yourself “We are all James Fields now!”

    • Replies: @gandydancer
  193. @Escher

    Yet somehow Michael Slager is in jail.

  194. @gandydancer

    Fields was “guilty as hell” of what? Not murder, that’s for damn sure. Whether he was truly fearful that the antifa thugs with weapons on them were going to get through his car windows or was he simply negligent by continuing to back up (not at 2 mph, but not at purposeful ramming speed either) is one question. I believe it was the former. Remember Reginald Denny in Los Angeles?

    Either way, it’d have been some degree of manslaughter, negligent homicide (you gotta realize he was not a particularly bright character), but not murder. Then, he got a sentence of 400-odd years, while a common black thug who murders someone during a robbery gets, what, 10 years served, maybe 20?

    One more thing that may or may not excuse James Fields from even a manslaughter charge (I’m no lawyer) is that the roley-poley he ran into may have had compounding factors in her death. Now, I suppose that’d be no defense, but it makes me think of the George Floyd situation just a bit.

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  195. @gandydancer

    I looked at the videos on a British newspaper site very carefully. This glass panel was to the right of the door – I should have made that clear. When I zoomed in I saw plenty of glass still in the frame at the bottom, at least on the left side. Yes, she was kind of perched there, but I couldn’t tell if it was clear for her to jump though. It’d be a bad idea to try until your hands and feet were clear of the glass. Maybe she was, but I am not sure of that. Thanks.

  196. anon[174] • Disclaimer says:
    @Old Prude

    Flame-thrower tank on a compound of women and children. Better?

    “Flame-thrower tank” did not happen.

    • Agree: gandydancer
  197. MEH 0910 says:
    @MEH 0910

  198. @Achmed E. Newman

    Fields was “guilty as hell” of what? Not murder, that’s for damn sure. Whether he was truly fearful that the antifa thugs with weapons on them were going to get through his car windows or was he simply negligent by continuing to back up (not at 2 mph, but not at purposeful ramming speed either) is one question. I believe it was the former. Remember Reginald Denny in Los Angeles?

    “continuing to back up”? What the fuck are you talking about? Fields wasn’t backing up when he killed Heyer and sent a bunch of other people flying through the air. Sure, they were mostly AntiFa scum, but Heyer and others were pretty harmless except when they voted, and Faith Goldy was in there somewhere.

    And, no, the cases of Heyer and Floyd aren’t remotely similar. Floyd had just taken a fatal dose of fentanyl and there is no proof that Chauvin did him any injury. Heyer suffered a crushed chest and torn aorta and there is not the slightest reason to think she would die in the foreseeable future absent Fields running his car into her.

    And Denny wasn’t parked a block away from a crowd that packed a street wall to wall before deciding to accelerate towards and into them. The only possible result of Fields doing what he did was mayhem and murder, and the judge in his case got it exactly right when he said (in the defense lawyers’ account) that Fields intent could be determined by the jury from the video of the assault. That’s exactly what I’ve done: Fields is a murderer in the 2nd degree, at least.

  199. @Patrick McNally

    Fields was surrounded by Antifa thugs and he made a decision to drive his buttocks out of there really quick.

    No, he wasn’t. He parked a block away from the marchers he saw coming around the corner and while his premeditation was limited to the time it took to go from angry to enraged there is no question that when he unparked and accelerated towards the crowd he did it with the intent of killing as many of them as possible. Yes, before being turned left down that street he had intended to drive home, but that changed. And the encounter with Dixon was well in his past at that point, and legally irrelevant, as is his success in emulating this Minassian. A lot of bodies were sent flying and if they weren’t killed it wasn’t for lack of Fields trying to kill them.

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